From tmh at xxx.edu Fri Oct 1 02:21:11 1999 From: tmh at xxx.edu (Todd Herrmann) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 21:21:11 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I hate annoying people Message-ID: <00ab01bf0bab$3f4d31c0$06d00281@student.umd.edu> I really hate close minded annoying people. Maybe I'm the one being closeminded by considering others to be complete idiots but sometimes in life you just run across those you can't stand and are so completely opposite from your view of good person, you can't help it. First a little background to make this story relevant, I'm a student at University of Maryland and I work at the desk in the lobby of my dorm building which is staffed by 1 of the 15 of us 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. So I was working the graveyard shift last weekend and it was about 3am on a Saturday night so a there was still a fair amount of people coming in from a night of drunken revelry. I was listening to everyone's favorite band "....Modern Rock Song" I think and this drunk sorority girl comes up to me and says she lost her keys in her drunken stupor. Fine, I give her the spare key to her room and while I'm doing this she asks me what I'm listening to. I tell her Belle and Sebastian and after listening for about 10 seconds she says "You like this music?" I say "Yeah its some of my favorite music" She just gives me the weirdest look like I just said I'm from another planet and sticks her nose up in the air and makes some noise like pssh! and laughs and walks away. I almost cried. She just managed to dismiss what has brought so much joy and relaxation to my life, that is the musical experience of Belle and Sebastian, in a few seconds of ignorant sorority girl bullshit. I don't care if she liked my music or not, everybody's entitled to their own opinion but she didn't have to just totally shun something just because its not within the realm of her little conformist, sorority world where everybody looks alike, talks alike, and thinks the same thoughts. I'm sorry if I don't listen to the same 5 songs that are deemed most popular and played over and over again by mainstream radio stations. No wait I'm not sorry, I just have to say fuck her and her sorority bullshit. I'm sorry to take this out on the list and I hope I didn't offend anybody involved in sororties that might be on this list, but if you are on this list then you can't be closeminded so this doesn't apply to you. My music infringed on her perfect little world and she used the same ingrained thoughts that everyone else in her perfect world uses because she couldn't think a thought of her own. And I thought college was supposed to be filled with original people with original thoughts. A disillusioned, Todd +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcus at xxx.uk Fri Oct 1 08:34:36 1999 From: marcus at xxx.uk (Marcus Omond) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:34:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: tonight, tonight Message-ID: <005801bf0be0$ae5be0e0$5395883e@marcus> hello again my lovelies, first of all, apologies for posting twice in twentyfour hours blah blah. now, it seems that my message last night made the get-together in the spreadeagle tonight seem like an exclusive invites only do, of the type that usually only occurs at posh embassies and the like. WELL IT'S NOT. anyone who can make it PLEASE come and get oh so tipsy with us - it'll be a laugh and a half. shit, the last time i made it inside the spreadeagle i nearly snogged geoff, so if that gives you any idea... soooo..... WHERE: THE SPREADEAGLE, PARKWAY WHEN: SEVEN THIRTY TONIGHT (FRIDAY) i expect to see as many of you as possible there. THAT INCLUDES YOU, LITTLE MISS STRANDED-IN-LEEDS ;) right, that's enough of me, love Marcus XXX mjmo2 at cam.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleeka_sounds at xxx.com Fri Oct 1 10:23:21 1999 From: sleeka_sounds at xxx.com (Sleeka Sounds) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 02:23:21 PDT Subject: Sinister: the jewels Message-ID: <19991001092321.40143.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello, As far as I know the Belle and Sebastian Sitar song is called "Legal Man", and it's not a real Sitar I think, it's a special Sitar Guitar which is like a normal guitar only it's got a sort of metal thing at the bridge, which makes it sound like a Sitar. I think. Stevie plays it. I think. So anyway my estranged chums, how have you been, are you happy? I'm about the most miserable fucker you've ever seen, so there's no change there. I had a Stephen Pastel dream the other night, which was quite upsetting. I dreamt he had me by the bollocks, and said "I'll crush them If you don't get my fucking motor fixed in two minutes." I don't know anything about motors, so I was shafted. Luckily, I woke up quick smart. Imagine my surprise to find Stephen Pastel in my bed with a tight grip on my swingers. Aaaaghh! Luckily I woke up again, cause that was another dream. Imagine my surprise to wake up with my gonads in a vice - I had fallen asleep in woodwork class at school, and was resting on the vice handle, slowly crushing them! So I got them out of the jaws, after a quick buff they were as good as new. Mum warned me that if I took them to school they would get broken. I'm going to see Robin Williamson again, on the 22nd. He's my hero. I've decided, against my better judgement that I have to get a tacky photo of me taken with Robin with my arm round his neck like we're best mates. He is one of my best mates; he just doesn't know me. If I'm going to do it I'll need to do it soon before he transmutates or dies or something. Is that sad? He's not a scientologist anymore. Anyone who's ever got there photo taken with someone famous, what did you say? Did you feel like a total fanny? ok dokay, back to corporate actions, Mistopher Chrispoof ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Fri Oct 1 11:13:20 1999 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:13:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: French Music and Orgasms Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB6970C343@park_ex> > Well its got to be "Je t'aime" by Serge and Jane (and many others since). > > ACTION: Steve looks smug and self-satisfied having finally found something > "relevant" to say :) > > I think french rapping sounds well cool, although I'm always a bit worried > that they're talking about smackin' their bitches up or something unsavory > (but then I have that problem with opera too, haha). There's a band > called Ver Coquan who are on Daft > Punk's label and they rock (I think MC Solaar's on one track, well he > usually is on these things, isn't he). Don't know anything else about > them, but the tape's rilly kewl. > > Oh, Bridget Bardot too, for sultry French singing. And bits of Stereolab > (Did you see the review in NME of the new album, ooh bitchy!) > (oh, here it is http://www.nme.com/reviews/reviews/19990927163405.html > believe me you will laugh at the sheer scale of hate one record has > produced). > > Steady Mike was talking about Richard Stilgoe. According to my sources > the programme was called, oh yes, "Stilgoe's On" hahahahaha . In > depth research is currently been carried out to find out just how awful > this programme was. > > Further reports as they come in. > > xoxo > > CarsmileSteve > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com Fri Oct 1 11:46:43 1999 From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 03:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I could be an interesting book. But none would understand it, not even me. Message-ID: <19991001104643.12359.rocketmail@web1406.mail.yahoo.com> Some one mentioned "about a boy" by nick hornby. I like that book. mmm....... rolos. It was really rather observant, and I felt that I really understood some of the emotions. I think I was quite like the wee boy in it (I've forgotten his name) as people disliked me for not being the same as them, and this pushed me even further away from them. I don't think thatI should have to listen to crappy dance like the vengaboys ect just to be accepted by people who I don't even like. someone else said that they didn't like narrow minded people. I guess that I am quite narrow minded, as I hate all dance music (I can't dance, so what's the point) and pish pop, made by brainless fools without any ability to make beautiful music. I probably should stop listening to music that makes me melancholy, but sometimes sadness is beautiful. It's far better than no emotions anyway. I asked a friend if I was narrow minded, and got the answer "You are right to hate dance. You are the one who is correct, so you cannot be narrowminded, as all inteligent and nice people know that dance is shit." yup. Since when were old scotish ladies b&s fans? or are the bbc taking the piss out of us? babychris CRYSTALBALLS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Archel1978 at xxx.com Fri Oct 1 11:56:03 1999 From: Archel1978 at xxx.com (Archel1978 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 06:56:03 EDT Subject: Sinister: beeeep, tournez la page Message-ID: bonjour sinister. HIGH FIDELITY no. nonononono. i don't identify with the bloke in this book at all. maybe because i'm a girl??? i dont know, but i didn't like it much. although it seemed to modestly show men as being rather sad and pathetic, it was really saying 'hey, look at us, we're sad and pathetic, how cute is that? and you, women, are more pathetic for needing us.' okay, maybe it wasn't saying exactly that, but that vibe was there. and i am not obsessive about music, which is another reason why i didn't get it, i suppose. i mean, i am obsessive about music i love, in a way, but not in the 'alphabetical classification of 6000 cds and detailed knowledge of b sides' way. is this a gender thing too? FRANCE marcus disagreed with me (how dare you) about rap but went on to mention intimidating french bars, which reminded me of an a level french exchange when our 'correspondantes' promised to take us to a 'real english pub'. i thought this rather undermined the idea of a cultural exchange, but as it turned out i needn't have worried, because the french idea of an english pub involved table service, bright light, and certainly nothing approaching a decent pint of ale. pubs, and tea, are about the only things i miss when i go to france. now i'm sure french listees are about to tell me of wonderful places to get both tea and a real pub atmosphere, and i will take your word for it, but i doubt i'll be able to afford to go again until i'm about 30 at this rate. THE FRENCH SONG this is a sample from a song entitled 'le chanson francais' by al boley, who is not famous now but probably will be soon: un, deux, trois, quatre, je passe l'aspirateur avec un petit chat. cinq, six, sept, huit, les grandes vacances dans une gite. neuf, dix, onze, douze, tes fesses sont grandes comme toulouse. ou sont les toilettes? ou sont les toilettes? la, ou la? je ne sais pas. this is what happens when you let would-be comedians who can't speak french write french songs. on the other hand, he plays b&s songs on his guitar at parties, so it's not all bad. ORGASM SONGS well, continuing the french theme, does 'je t'aime, moi non plus' by serge gainsbourg and jane birkin count? also i seem to remember that 'she's my heroine' (?) by skunk anansie features skin sounding... excited. LE WEEKEND oh no, we're not allowed to say that any more are we? well, in that case i hope everyone has a very good 'fin de semaine'. luv archel xxx ****** Rachel Playforth archel at iname.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Fri Oct 1 12:07:18 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:07:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Eargasms with my mellow waxing* Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2297F24F@SERVER1> Oooh ooh! I know this one! "Rocket Queen" by Guns 'n' Roses. Now stand up all those who knew this but were ashamed to say. And you, Hopkins, no use trying to hide it. You know how when you're listening to your favourite band, you'll occasionally have little Moments when whatever song you're listening to makes you feel totally at peace with the world, so happy you think you're going to burst? Obviously B&S do this to me quite a lot, but it caught me unawares the other day, cos it was Seymour Stein that did it. I've always really rated this song (more than anyone else I've discussed it with, it seems) but it's the first non-Struan song to have had this effect since god knows when. Rhoda has that effect every time I listen to it. Please release it, Stuart, it's so lovely... Was the Richard Stilgoe programme the one where they did something a bit like Battleships? I thought it was fantastic. "About a Boy", I can exclusively reveal, must be a good book cos I worked on it! I had to research popular culture in the time period covered by the book, what was top of the hit parade, which films were out, what trainers were people wearing, that kind of thing. It was quite fun, although having read the book the only thing I can say for sure is my work is the reference to Mr Blobby. Oh well. But Mr Hornby is a thoroughly delightful man, as well as being a role model for slapheads everywhere. And (don't forget) Belle and Sebastian figure in the High Fidelity film soundtrack, though I haven't a clue which song. And in the plot - Barry slags them off while they're playing in the shop. Christal B - you're not getting through to Erica cos you've got the address wrong. Why not go and check it? I want to have a baby. Oh yes - more big hugs for Alyssa Marie - hope it goes okay, honey! Mark xxx *another bit of pop trivia. Anyone? ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 0171 224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tjohn at xxx.uk Fri Oct 1 12:29:02 1999 From: tjohn at xxx.uk (Timothy John Roberts) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:29:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: PARANOIA IS TOTAL AWARENESS Message-ID: <004b01bf0c01$cefab260$571d883e@oemcomputer> >As far as I know the Belle and Sebastian Sitar song is called "Legal Man", >and it's not a real Sitar I think, it's a special Sitar Guitar which is like >a normal guitar only it's got a sort of metal thing at the bridge, which >makes it sound like a Sitar. I think. Stevie plays it. I think. is that like on the twintub remix of starfighter pilot by snow patrol wheres theres that sample of someone saying "NOW YOU TOO CAN MAKE YOUR GUITAR SOUND LIKE A SITAR!"? because isnt the boy geddes involved with twintub? or am i just getting confused? about, like, everything? >...for a >great pop record with sitar on it, try Ananda Shankar's 1970 album (i >think it's self-titled)...it's got a cover of Jumpin' Jack Flash that >rocks the free world. yeah, thats on david holmes quite brilliant essential mix. >Oh, Bridget Bardot too, for sultry French singing. yeah, shes on there too. has anyone noticed how i have subtly brought the disparate threads of the universe together? sitars/french stuff? its like live aid. or alternatively the last half hour of some post-tarantino yoof film. oh dear, nick hornby rears his ugly head again... >Any of us Belle & Sebastian fans will immediately identify with >the main protagonist's love of music, and probably his neurotic antics >as well. no thats the shoe by gordon legge youre thinking of. i cant put my finger on it, but whenever i read nick hornby something just seems really false to me. and did you not notice how that book is actually an attempt at a justification for going MOR as you grow older? or it just me? >Some of us have feelings that we just dont have the words to >describe adequately and when we try some of what we mean is filtered out >by our inability to find the right language. er, yeah. im going for a lie down from tjohn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Fri Oct 1 13:43:21 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:43:21 -0400 (EWT) Subject: Sinister: People on trains. Message-ID: I have been working in a large North American city for the last two months and every day I take the train to work. I am sure this is rude, but after two months I recognize people and I watch them. Sometimes I wish I could talk to them or something, but mostly I want to watch and not get involved, and they probably don't want to me to get involved. I was thinking about writing a story about the people I see on trains, but I haven't quite found the inspiration or the plot yet. And for whoever said that the song "Chickfactor" was pish, shame on you. You are wrong. And I am kind of shocked that no one mentioned Watoo Watoo when talking about French bands. Anyway. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Fri Oct 1 13:40:52 1999 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 13:40:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Orgasms and Dear John Message-ID: <343F4A3048@hermes.nottingham.ac.uk> 0100,0100,0100Archel agreed that Hefner sing about "real life" I don't think Darren from Hefner can really say his world is more real than Belle and Sebastian's. They both sing about different sides of life. I happen to identify with Belle and Sebastian's point of view more, and I'm pretty sure there's others on this list who feel the same. Just because it's not what everyone else is singing about doesn't mean it aint true. On a similar subject, I get annoyed when programmes on telly are called "real life" when it just means they contain lots of sex and violence and are filmed on crap quality film. Real life for me is getting up in the morning, doing a poo, having some toast then getting on a bus or my bike to work or wander round town. I do more thrilling things too but I like the way B+S don't sing about those bits but sing about the bits in-between. I think the closest you can get to real life is "kitchen sink" drama. And B+S do kitchen sink damn well which is why I think a large number of B+S fans, like me, like Pulp too. The Royle Family was good last night wasn't it? I like Anthony the best because he always gets the blame for everything. When my friend and I were trying to write a sitcom durning the summer we wrote down a list of typical sitcom characters, and one of them was the hard done by character for whom everything always goes wrong, like John from Dear John. We also had the camp character, the person who thinks he has more power than he does, the idiot and a few others. We couldn't think of a situation though. I nearly saw Richard Still-not-dead when I nearly went to see Peter Skellern play in Nottingham. It was a Skellern and Stilgoe spectacular. I didn't go, though, in the end. Carter USM did a song called Lenny And Terrence which had a cracking orgasm at the end of it. Shame about the song, really. Massive props to everyone |Robin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Oct 1 14:22:18 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:22:18 +0200 Subject: Sinister: The Serpent's Kiss Message-ID: <01bf0c0f$fd026aa0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> WHAT'S A GRECIAN URN WORTH? Surely Exeter City's new DUKE STAND is a tribute not only to the Duke himself, but also a tribute to the combative stance he takes on issues such as Manda Rin's refusal to do swaps, as well as a sideways nod to the Dexy's Midnight Runners classic DANCE STANCE. I SEE A SITAR AND I WANT TO PAINT IT BLACK I like sitars. It is a beautiful instrument with a centuries long tradition of making beautiful sounds. I'm particularly keen on that BWOOOOOOOING BWOOOOOOOOOOOING BWOOOOOOING sound, like the first rays of the new rising sun, but I'm also partial to that DIDIDIDIDIDIDIBRRRING sound, acheived by consummate mastery of fretboard wankery techniques. Someone, possibly Nick Nolte in his book AWOPBOPALOOBOPAWOPBAMBOO, called it curry powder when used by The Beatles. I like tablas too. I look forward to hearing the B&S sitar experience. I've got a Miles Davis live album with a sitar on it, but I'm buggered if I can hear it. YOU SPECKY PUFF! "What," thought Alice, "would be the point of inventing a world that already existed?" I agree that Murdochland exists only in the imagination of Britain's finest folk-inflected singer-songwriter, the bard of barminess, Stuart Murdoch himself, but I fail to see the problem with that. Just imagine if we all took Daz from Hefner's attitude. There'd be no "Planet of the Apes" for a start. TODAY'S SERIOUS POINT Nice to see the Harvey Wallbangers making an appearance at the Po Caff. Perhaps the Stutz Bearcats can be coaxed out of retirement as support? Nice one Trousers. PROPS I've looked it up, but it's not even in NEW WORDS. Propellerheads is though. Hands up if you're a propellerhead. On second thoughts, take a step forward instead. AGENT DOUBLE-O FAT SLUG I've got tapes for Fat Slug and David Moore. Now comes the difficult part. lots of love, Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickole at xxx.com Fri Oct 1 14:46:05 1999 From: nickole at xxx.com (nickole quality gaston) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 08:46:05 -0500 Subject: Sinister: l'aigle Message-ID: <4.1.19991001084559.00edf100@icarus.uic.edu> alright first off, i have been on this a while, but ive never really posted.... i just had to comment on this though. when i went to london last year i met this boy from the london college of printing, and he told me that i had to go to the spreadeagle because once he (or someone..) saw graham coxon in here. he also said that graham was very pissed and rude/mean/just generally not nice. and supposedly some one else saw all of blur there. and me being a silly american, i had to go. so anyway...we went, i was horribly dissapointed to not see any world famous pop stars. but thats ok, it was still fun. im thinking that it must be the same place i went, because how many pubs would call themselves the spread eagle? i remember it was in camden. i hope you have fun tonight and if you see graham tell him i said hullo, if hes not to pissed and grumpy. love nickole At 08:34 AM 10/1/99 +0100, you wrote: >hello again my lovelies, > >first of all, apologies for posting twice in twentyfour hours blah blah. >now, it seems that my message last night made the get-together in the >spreadeagle tonight seem like an exclusive invites only do, of the type that >usually only occurs at posh embassies and the like. WELL IT'S NOT. anyone >who can make it PLEASE come and get oh so tipsy with us - it'll be a laugh >and a half. shit, the last time i made it inside the spreadeagle i nearly >snogged geoff, so if that gives you any idea... > >soooo..... >WHERE: THE SPREADEAGLE, PARKWAY >WHEN: SEVEN THIRTY TONIGHT (FRIDAY) > >i expect to see as many of you as possible there. THAT INCLUDES YOU, LITTLE >MISS STRANDED-IN-LEEDS ;) > >right, that's enough of me, > >love > >Marcus XXX > >mjmo2 at cam.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Fri Oct 1 15:02:38 1999 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:02:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: And then one day she cut her hair and I stopped loving her Message-ID: <01bf0c15$9e831320$046b9ac2@g5-200-3> Well, I am as keen as anyone to clear up once and for all the vexed issue of "props", and so I put the miracle of the wiggly-waggly web to work, finding this page: http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Bayou/2835/ebonics.html Not only does it tell us that "props" does in fact mean "recognition", but it also suggests that "swervin' & pervin'" means "riding around in your car just to show off", "skrilla" means "money" and "buga wolf" means "a woman who is ugly but thinks she is cute". Well I never! Someone was going on about songs that have speaking in them. I quite like them. Especially if it's Phil Oakey doing the speaking. I think they've got a bad press cos of that fella out of the Blue Aeroplanes with the face like a relief map of the surface of the moon. The pinnacle of the genre must surely be Melvyn Bragg's version of "Walk Away Renee" with that there Duane Tremolo on geetar, now re-released on that new compilation thing. It has many Murdochian moments, not least the bit where he says love is like "being on one of those fast rides at the funfair, the sort that are scary and you want to get off, but as soon as you're off you want to get straight back on again". I had a dream about Peter Miller the other night. He looked like a fabulous furry freak brother with a big bushy beard and an afro, and he showed me this magazine he published called "Acid Rock", which had My Bloody Valentine on the cover. I've been reading this book what I borrowed off Nick Dastoor about Orson Welles. When I get to page 199, who should make an appearance but everyone's favourite French litigator Mme Cécile Aubry? Can I just point out that Harvey-the-invisible-rabbit will *not* be playing at the Pocaff? We promised to never book him again after he put on KISS face-paint, ran amok and trashed the joint the last time he played here. Re: Mums in pop... How on earth did I forget to include Mama Cass? Straight to bed with no porridge for me. Stevie Troussé PS Mistopher Christopher and Warrender John both back in the same week! Now, whatever happened to Watson and Begbie? Hmm that sounds like a good title for a detective series.... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Fri Oct 1 16:13:38 1999 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MS1996) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 16:13:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Talk about bum cakes, Campbell's got 'em... Message-ID: <37F4CFA2.35C60F5F@cs.strath.ac.uk> Why are people saying there are no aunts in pop? What about Adam? BJ wrote: > Viv Anderson. Lindsay Anderson. > Either way, one question (we're getting ahead of ourselves here, and Belgium > have to defend a corner) must have been asked with reckless abandon: > > 'Tell me, Mrs Anderson, why did you give your son a GIRL'S NAME?' Oi, that's my grandpa's name! And if he can have it, then it's OK? OK? Deary me, I was almost threatening there. Who's that laughing at the back? I can be hard if I want to be. No, I can't actually. In fact I'm so soft I'm actually going to be used as an airbag in the new Volvo. Archel said: > posting to sinister is very like masturbating. no, really. it's healthy in > moderation, but if you start obsessing about it, always thinking of new and > exciting ways and places to do it, or are doing it more than once a day, then > you should start to worry. it won't make you blind (though as ailsa observed > on a bus last week, the six listees present at the time were ALL > short-sighted...) but it might make a mess. I discovered the other week that I am probably one of the blindest people on Sinister, with a prescription of -4.00. And I am a complete wanker, so you're wrong Rachel. Ailsa moaned: > My secret spies (by > which I mean I can't remember who told me this) tell me that all of the > band except Richard have written stuff for the new album. I don't > really know if I like this idea. No, but I did like that song wot Mick wrote, "Grazing in the grass" I think it's called. And continued with: > I danced to Bon Jovi, Steps and Britney Spears last night. And I > enjoyed it. Just to prove I mean what I say about having no pretensions > about musical taste at all. You can ask Alasdair, if he stopped being > horrified long enough to watch (although he was dancing to some pretty > cheesy stuff too). Much more fun than the (cancelled) Arab Strap show > that we were meant to be at would have been, I imagine. > Indie-schmindie. P!O!P! is where it's at :) No, not really much fun at all, in fact much like paying 3 quid to listen to daytime radio. I don't think I can actually enjoy dancing to a song unless I like the song, consequently I only danced about 5 times. Is there something wrong with me? Actually I had a much better time last night as I only paid 2 quid to hear a quite splendid new band called Senna. The gig was made all the better by the fact that some kids (quite possibly their mates) were dancing about like fools at the front. I hadn't been so impressed by a band for, ooh, 2 weeks. And I endeared myself to my mate's mate's sister's band by telling them they were better than Sleater-Kinney, who are their favourites. What I didn't tell them is that Sleater-Kinney bored me shitless (boom and indeed boom, Queen Tubs) when I saw them so it didn't take a lot to beat them. And P!O!P! is indeed where it's at, but S!H!I!T!E! is what we were listening to, Ailsa. I have heard a rumour that Arab Strap cancelled because Aidan's dad died, so I may be willing to forgive them. Todd got very upset: > I almost cried. She just managed to dismiss what has brought so much joy > and relaxation to my life, that is the musical experience of Belle and > Sebastian, in a few seconds of ignorant sorority girl bullshit. I don't > care if she liked my music or not, everybody's entitled to their own opinion > but she didn't have to just totally shun something just because its not > within the realm of her little conformist, sorority world where everybody > looks alike, talks alike, and thinks the same thoughts. Well, she can if she wants to. But what difference does it make, it's her loss not yours. The overwhelming majority of people hate the music that most of the people on this list like, it's just something you've got to get used to. If she enjoys listening to the top 5 then so be it, it doesn't (or shouldn't) take anything away from your enjoyment of B&S. Come oan, cheer up! For me? :) Songs with speaking in them. I really like the end of Suede's 'Stay Together', in fact it's one of my favourite endings to a song because of the general chaos, which the speaking enhances. Or something. Also the lovely Camera Obscura have a song called 'Annawaltzerpose' with speaking in it. I can't remember what he says but it's something about spinning round at 100 miles an hour. It's nice, anyway. But not French. And finally, Nickole "quality is my middle name" wrote: > i met this boy from the london college of > printing, and he told me that i had to go to the spreadeagle because once > he (or someone..) saw graham coxon in here. he also said that graham was > very pissed and rude/mean/just generally not nice. and supposedly some one > else saw all of blur there. and me being a silly american, i had to go. > so anyway...we went, i was horribly dissapointed to not see any world > famous pop stars. Funny, I've seen loads of world famous pop stars in that pub. Tim Hopkins, Amos Memon, Pam Berry, the list is endless. No, wait, it just ended. Actually there are probably more but I can't think of any right now. Oh, and Trouser's book of rock is indeed excellent. Such choice snippets as: "One of the main reasons for the success of Fleetwood Mac was the extreme beauty of it's female members" and "Mark Knopfler is officially acknowledged as the last great guitar hero". Priceless stuff, definitely one to curl up in bed with on the long winter nights soon to be upon us. The book that is, not Mark Knopfler. Alasdair xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pythia at xxx.com Fri Oct 1 18:29:39 1999 From: pythia at xxx.com (Laurel Girvan) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 13:29:39 -0400 Subject: Sinister: People on trains. Message-ID: Brandt admitted sheepishly: >I have been working in a large North American city for the last two months >and every day I take the train to work. I am sure this is rude, but after >two months I recognize people and I watch them. I, too, spy cheerily on people on trains. I duck behind my books and papers when they get suspicious, but as long as they don't notice me, I'm free to give them pet names and make up their life stories. Rude? Oh, probably, but it beats ignoring people altogether. Though New Yorkers are famous for that, too, aren't they? Ta. *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Fri Oct 1 18:22:55 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 18:22:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ban this sick stunt! Message-ID: <802567FD.005F7CD4.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Robin 'the hooded man' Stout wrote: On a similar subject, I get annoyed when programmes on telly are called "real life" when it just means they contain lots of sex and violence and are filmed on crap quality film. Real life for me is getting up in the morning, doing a poo, having some toast then getting on a bus or my bike to work or wander round town. I do more thrilling things too but I like the way B+S don't sing about those bits but sing about the bits in-between. Hang on a minute. Does someone know something I don't? Have the band really been working on a track about having a poo? That's just revolting! Which member of the People's Republic of B&S was responsible for that? Please tell me it wasn't one of the girls. Anyway, Hefner can't talk. What kind of real world do they live in? I saw their new video the other day. It involved the band running around parks with no clothes on. That never happens round my way. Actually, they were too prudish to really take their clothes off and instead had big body stockings on with hairless genitals attached. But that's even more unrealistic. Can I take this opportunity to nail the lie that the Beatles' dentist gave them LSD in 1964? My Beatles trivia bank is a bit rusty but I'm pretty sure they were still giggling from being introduced to waccy baccy by Dylan at this stage of their career. I don't think the LSD came till '66 for Lennon and '67 for the others. First sitar: Norwegian Wood (1965). Conclusion: you can introduce sitars without being being an acid-crazed hippy. Shame though - it would be interesting if the delay on the new album had been caused by the band turning into brain-addled loons. Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ar981611 at xxx.uk Fri Oct 1 18:28:20 1999 From: ar981611 at xxx.uk (Ailsa Ross) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 18:28:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: P!O!P! right now, thank you very much References: <00ab01bf0bab$3f4d31c0$06d00281@student.umd.edu> Message-ID: <37F4EF34.7E710EC4@student.paisley.ac.uk> Hello Todd Herrmann wrote: > if you are on this list then you can't be > closeminded so this doesn't apply to you. ~~~ Ha ha ha ~~~ > I thought college was supposed to be filled with original people with > original thoughts. ~~~ Ha ha ha ~~~ So what was the last original thought some of you had then? Because I don't think I've had an original thought in my life. No matter how great Belle and Sebastian are, they can't define originality of personality, especially when you *know* at least 1000 people like them as much as you do. I don't think of others as mindless, unoriginal, dull, or whatever just because they don't like B&S. Or any other sort of music for that matter. I *do* however take exception to BabyChris' friend's assertion that intelligent people don't like dance music. I don't like much dance music either, but that has no bearing on my intelligence, and probably doesn't stem from it either. I just don't like it - I like things with tunes. And lyrics. And before any dance music afficionados start bombarding me with reasons *why* I should like their music, please bear in mind that what I listen to and like is my personal choice, and you aren't going to change my taste in anything. Cos I'm quite capable of making up my own mind about things. So don't try to convince me otherwise, or I'll just look menacingly at you. Which won't be scarey at all, but it's the best I can do cos I'm a wuss. Oh, and not liking something doesn't make you marrow-minded does it? I thought it just meant you had some form of personal taste and discretion. Haven't I said this before? I really should start reading the archives, you know :) Some other dull stuff now... I nearly got to go to Richard Stilgoe's house for my tea once. I didn't though. Also, I met Steve Hewitt, Placebo bloke in the Spread Eagle. Actually, now I come to think of it, it wasn't *that* Steve Hewitt, it was some chancer out of a band called Carsmile. Doesn't Graham Coxon drink in the Good Mixer anyway? Because obviously you are only allowed to drink in one pub. I saw a bloke out of Menswe at r in the Good Mixer once. And David McAlmont in the street outside. And Sanjay out of EastEnders (not together, as far as I know). God, all I ever see up here is Stephen bloody Pastel and Stuart bloody Murdoch. You Londoners are so lucky ~ Ailsa xx PS French Kiss by L'il Louis may have some sort of orgasm on it, I think, but I never actually got to hear it 'cos Radio One banned it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Fri Oct 1 10:52:30 1999 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 05:52:30 -0400 Subject: Sinister: come to mummy References: <19990930115333.19813.rocketmail@web1006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <37F4845E.A1BEA139@utoronto.ca> Tim Hopkins wrote: > I forget the name of June Carter^Òs mother, but she > most certainly was in the Carter family. And of that would be Mother Mabel Carter. and yes, she did alot for guitar playing the world over...she was quite a revolutionary in many ways. check out some of the early stuff. > What I will say, however, is that my loathing for the > Smiths is the loathing of a love betrayed. Once upon a how dare that jerk of a neighbor have called the cops on arthur lee? > If it^Òs got a sitar on it, I^Òm not bloody well buying > it. Do I look like some kind of hippy? I^Òll listen to > someone else^Òs, but only so I can pull faces and tut > disapprovingly. There is no such thing as a good pop > record with a sitar on it, anywhere. The only > appropriate use for a sitar in pop music is breaking > it in two and sticking the wide end up George > Harrison^Òs hippy Beatle arse. And shoving the jagged > end up his nose. In the words of the prophet, never > trust a hippy. alright, so sitars aren't big on the list..... however i feel duty bound to defend indian music stuff in general. what you're all so mad about isn't _sitars_ per se its lame sitar playing. so don't trust hippies but perhaps people shouldn't be so hasty to poop on indian musical instruments in general. there are plenty of bad folksy, strum strum guitar types but we all know that that doesn't spoil the accoustic guitar now does it.....tsk. sk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Sat Oct 2 00:39:28 1999 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Jones?=) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 16:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: The sound of violins drowned in gunfire Message-ID: <19991001233928.14260.rocketmail@web128.yahoomail.com> October. October, October, October. Oct meaning ‘eight’, Ober meaning ‘add another two’. Ah, isn’t this is what it’s all about ? The winds, the falling leaves, the sodden turf, autumn all thick and creamy and running down your shirt. Better go and change before the housemaster sees it or you’ll be eating your breakfast in the Lesser Shed with Swarther of 8C and he has whooping cough. Oh, marvellous. Ailsa: > Oh, and not liking something doesn't make you marrow-minded > does it? How fortuitous a slip ! I often characterise folks who disagree with me as [i] vegetables or [ii] having an abundance of the fatty tissue normally located in one’s bones where their brain should be. To be honest, I don’t really know what to infer from so vague a phrase as ‘dance music’ thesedays. That could mean anything or it could mean nothing - pertaining to something entirely imaginary ("y’know - that dum-dum-dum-dum rubbish... people in nappies blowing whistles... ingesting cod liver oil and swaying in some muddy field ‘til 5 in the morning... *that* sort of thing"). Alasdair C: > The overwhelming majority of people hate the music > that most of the people on this list like, it's just something you've > got to get used to. And the overwhelming majority of people on this list hate the music I like, so there you go. I hover near the stereo at a social gathering and suddenly it’s "well, it is really that late ?" and "anyone fancy some fresh air ?". "Oh come on, guys", I plead, "‘Beyond Dentistry’ by Hexen Kaiser isn’t *that* bad - there’s definitely a tune lurking in there... once the orphans stop weeping, and just before the buzz-saw car alarm there’s a brief snatch of Toto’s ‘Africa’... Guys ?" Mark C: > Was the Richard Stilgoe programme the one where they did > something a bit > like Battleships? I thought it was fantastic. Couldabin. Dunno. You’re now almost imperceptibly ahead of two others in the race for the Top Prize. Essentially what I’m looking for here is simply someone to make a strong case for what the Stilgoe show *might* have been, since we’ve already established that no-one on Earth can recall what it actually was. In fact, I’d go so far to say that anyone who now claims that they *do* know the real answer is lying and, as we all know, lies make the baby Jesus cry. This is by far and away the greatest response, on- or off-list, to anything I’ve ever posted. And it regards Richard Stilgoe. This just isn’t healthy, is it ? Paul R: > The "WHO" referred to in the text is an > acronym for the well-known(apparently not) World > Health Organization [snip] > I am in a > fraternity and it has been a wonderful experience Did they give you a keg in exchange for your sense of humour ? No, I’m kidding. I’m having you on. I’m pulling your chain. No, *seriously*, I’m *joking*. Marcus O: > i think french rap sounds really suave and sexy > like rap in most other languages, works best when the rapper > just constructs complex plays on words, and puns away for a while > (à la tribe called quest) My mum used to make that. Duck a la Tribe Called Quest. Not edible in the strictest sense of the word. But he’s right of course. MC Solaar’s yr man in that regard, and that fella "Prose Combat" is what you’ll want to be carrying on with. Some Tories got together today to choose their man for this London Mayor business. I see around 1% of the ballot papers were ‘spoiled’. I’ve often wondered what this entails exactly. I mean, I think I know what *soiling* a ballot paper would involve. Just how difficult is it to spoil your voting slip ? Suffer a stroke just as you make your cross ? Give it all the sweeties it wants until you fundamentally weaken its character ? Suggestions to the usual PO Box. Courage, little ones. Mike. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Sat Oct 2 01:40:22 1999 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (Johan Nilsson) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 02:40:22 +0200 Subject: Sinister: banana peels we slipped on and egg shells we tippy toed over References: <000701bf0167$b3f80b60$44711198@wfu.edu> Message-ID: <19991002002834.88412.qmail@hotmail.com> evil belle's and hysterical sebastian's, i broke up with my first ever girl friend five days ago. even though i know it was something i had to do it is still eating me up. not only does nearly all of my friends say that my action was odd and even dumb, i now feel totally empty. between the two of us there was just a psycial attraction, nothing more. profoundness was lost after a while. can two people live on that? at the moment i feel like i should have stopped and hold on to that, cuz now i fear i will die like van gogh. has anyone here heard the new terry callier cd? i really love the song on it that he made with beth orton, it is so wonderful. i am thinking of getting the album just because of that song. but that song reminds me of my ex. i'm turning 20 in a few days. it is so depressing. luckly i am going to visit my sister in stockholm and that will be fun. otherwise i would get really sad. to top it, i am going to see arab strap play at cirkus, yippie. matane, johan. ps. kin. no, i didn't make it - i didn't find any batteries. i am so sorry. the gig however was wonderful and i did record arab strap, but just like i had calculated the batteries were almost dead afterwards. i should have kept my mouth shut. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grey7 at xxx.net Sat Oct 2 07:27:59 1999 From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 02:27:59 -0400 Subject: Sinister: All you sinister people... Message-ID: <01a801bf0c9f$4644a360$17381fce@default> Beatles and Acid Joy to all my sinister brothers and sisters, especially the ones that are feeling a bit down . Nick wrote that the LSD didn't start until after 65 for the Beatles. Pulling out my copy of A Hard Day's Write, an exhaustive book with the story behind every single beatles song I see it repeats the story about the dentist friend spiking their coffee... However, it has an interesting story about how in the august of 65 they rented a house and in the company of Peter Fonda and others dropped acid for the first time, all save Paul that is. Helluva book and I recommend it to any diehard Beatles fan. Norwegian Wood was brilliant wasn't it? And it was written before their trip so Nick's still right. Hmmm, never really saw the Beatles as drug-addled hippies anyways (drug-addled at times yes, hippies...that's a bit of a loaded term). As to the Beach Boys-Beatles discussions the groups had alot of mutual respect for each other, hell Mike Love and the Beatles hung out together when they all went to India with Donovan and others during their experiments with Eastern philosophy. College I'm fairly lucky I think. I was dismayed when I first got to college and realized it wasn't the haven for positive, nice, tolerant people I had dreamed of it as. But I've learned that the sad fact is that we're all human. Even those poor close-minded bastards I have to deal with everyday. At least I'm blessed with a college radio station that plays a bit of B&S. Okay, it plays alot of b.s. too, but on the whole it's a rather nice station where one can hear all sorts of cool stuff instead of blocks of mass marketed *alterna-teen* rock or pop metal. Which I must say I listen to and enjoy a bit of that too, I just want a world where I can hear music as eclectic as my tastes. Indie (whatever that is) and Mainstream(whatever that is). Hippies & Sitars The hippies are taking a bit of a knocking eh? I'll admit some respect for what the hippies accomplished (turning american on it's ear for a start) but I suppose in retrospect if they'd had had their shit together they'd of made a bit more of an impact in history instead of just ending as a bit of a joke. Favorite description of what happened to the movement : "We were gonna change the world, free everyone's mind, and overturn a facist establishment. What happened? We all just kinda got high and forgot" Sitars can be a bit much can't they? I won't say I hate the things, but George really should have left it at home for a few of those songs. Music Judging someone by their music makes about as much sense as judging by their clothes. I'm sure most of the list would hate half of what I consider my favorite bands. However, I see Beth Orton gets mentioned alot on the list. She *is* one of my current favorites, what a talent. Anyone else think K's Choice is brilliant(or did I just ostricize myself there?)? Happy Happy, Joy Joy To all you wonderful sinister people, cheer up boys and girls. Don't let the bastards get you down because that's when they win.Nuts, it's two thirty in the morning and I've been rambling a bit,time to crash. Luck all!-Jim "We're all out there somewhere, waiting to happen"- Jeff Noon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From craigrm at xxx.uk Sat Oct 2 10:09:32 1999 From: craigrm at xxx.uk (Craig) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 10:09:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Yo !, bum rush the list. Message-ID: <000c01bf0cb6$1762df00$f6e693c3@orlando1> Is "bum rush" two words or one ?, it's probably not all that important right now. On separate occasions yesterday two casual work acquaintances asked "how's married life was treating you ?". I just smiled and said "it's great" and they seemed to go away satisfied. I'm not married though - so I've no idea where that came from. ALCOHOL I Don't do it kidz*, it makes you feel ill and behave strangely. ALCOHOL II Tiger Milk (product of Slovenia) exists. It can be obtained from the more exclusive Off-Licenses (see jLucy & co for address details). It's rough tasting and plainly bottled but I urge everyone to purchase a crate, even if it's just to support the struggling Eastern European B&S themed vineyards. ALCOHOL III be warned: when combined with tiredness, emotional frailty and the most warped decision making process outside the military, it can lead to directionless wandering around unremarkable London suburbs relieved only by the early opening of Tube Stations. I assume Marcus had a incident free night though as I seemed to attract the strange people who normally target him. I've a handy tip for early morning revellers - those self contained and cleaning loos may cost 20p but they're great for hiding in when trying to avoid scary street folk. Anyway sorry to all concerned, I was probably quite rude. BUT WHILE I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION THERE IS A SMALL FAVOUR I'D like TO ASK THE L I S T Next week is possibly my final week @ the job I've been doing for about 3 years. And as is the custom I'm planning to get rather drunk with my workmates on my final day. I'll be sending out a mail to invite them all along and would very much like to fill it with clever B&S quotes. So if anyone had any ideas or can compose a great little mail for me then let me know. Please remember that apart from one fellow listee who'd probably get the mail and understand it I don't want to confuse and scare people so nothing too morbid or bizarre thanks. Sleep - that's what I want. Bye. I like feather boas now, Craig xoxox * I don't mean this obviously. - stuck shift key (c) G.Dickie 1999 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From l2davies at xxx.ca Sat Oct 2 11:26:52 1999 From: l2davies at xxx.ca (all hype) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 03:26:52 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian in Toronto Message-ID: <001701bf0cc0$a57c3ca0$408dfad1@pathcom.com> Hello, Well though the band won't be appearing, mark November 4th on your calendars...I am hosting a Belle and Sebastian night called Songs For Children at Vox Central, 585 Yonge Street in Toronto. I would love it if anyone of you who can make it would come out. It will be a great night filled with Belle and Sebastian of course, plus other Jeepster acts, Matador sweeties, as well as great Scots like Mogwai, the Pastels, Arab Strap and the list goes on. We will have quizzes, giveaways and videos to watch if you're not the type to get up and dance. It should be a great time, and Vox is quite a nice club. If you need anymore details, feel free to email me davies at pathcom.com Take care, Laura +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcus at xxx.uk Sat Oct 2 08:17:27 1999 From: marcus at xxx.uk (Marcus Omond) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 08:17:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: and finally... Message-ID: <000901bf0ca6$509c7ac0$df28893e@marcus> right, i'm off to cambridge now, and so i'm going to have to unsub. thank you to everyone for making things so much more interesting around here with your wonderful posts, and massive props and a half to everyone who turned up at the pub last night to see me off. i got the last bus home, after sitting at the bus stop for half an hour with some weirdo walking around me for about ten minutes talking into thin air: 'yes steve, i've fucking got it. don't fucking do this - i'll be round in ten minutes. steve, for fuck's sake!' maybe he was talking about the book he'd written, 'mothers in pop', and he was talking telepathically to mr troussé. or maybe not. anyway, if anyone wants to get in touch in cambridge (ha ha) my e-mail is mjmo2 at cam.ac.uk. all that it remains is for me to tell everyone how much i like natasha. i was sitting downstairs writing a song, and the doorbell rang. there was a gentleman outside with a rather attractive bouquet of blue and white flowers, and so i said 'wrong address, mate'. but no! the heavenly, lovely and for some stupid reason far too far away natasha had sent them to me. so she gets the maddest props of all. maybe she'll remember how to post some day, and you'll all see how great she is again. right, enough of that, see you all soon, a whole lodda love, Marcus XXX +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Sat Oct 2 14:26:20 1999 From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE DICKIE) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 06:26:20 PDT Subject: Sinister: TASTE THE WASTE Message-ID: <19991002132621.25745.qmail@hotmail.com> YO YO YO I FEEL HAPPY AT THE MO IT IS NOT A GOOD HAPPY THOUGH IT IS ONE OF THOSE OTT HAPPY MOMENTS THE ONES CAUSED BY A BUILD UP OF UNLEASHED NERVOUS ENERGY YOU FEEL GREAT FOR A WHILE THEN YOU JUST FEEL LIKE A TWAT SORT OF LIKE SNIFFING POPPERS SORT OF LIKE WHEN YOU GET IN TO A B&S SONG SO MUCH YOU ARE AHEAD OF IT YOU WANT IT TO SPEED UP AND EXPLODE CRAZY CRAZY HAPPY KOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL TWAT MMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM AND THAT'S THAT I JUST THOUGHT I'D SHARE THAT WITH YOU LOVE AND THE FIRST TIME YOU DRANK COKE GEORGIE AND HIS MAGIC TEAT PIPET ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eahostet at xxx.com Sat Oct 2 17:53:28 1999 From: eahostet at xxx.com (E. A. Hostetter) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 09:53:28 -0700 Subject: Sinister: B&S Bowl Cut Message-ID: <37F63888.846648F4@interlog.com> Oh hoo hoo I found this hilarious quote in an article about called "FUCK NEW YORK, PARIS, MILAN, AND LONDON Seattle is the Fashion Hotbed of the World!" "In another sublime development, gym-pumped party boys are becoming rarer than hens' teeth as men make a dashing turn toward the always-enticing scrawny little boy look. Any hipster worth his or her martini knows that nothing gets you laid like skinny, and the lines to the bench press are shrinking as Seattle's most nubile male flesh eschew their muscles for that oh-so-sexy speed freak chic! Topping off this look is an uneven Belle and Sebastian bowl cut, a belly-revealing undersized vintage tee, and a heavily creased pair of tweed plus-fours and/or polyester cigarette pants with high-ankle monk strap boots by Bulo. Luscious!" There is a young man who lives in my building who had what I thought was a B&S bowl but in the end he looked more like an indie pop boy transplanted onto "That 70s Show." You can find the article it at: http://www.thestranger.com/AE/artlead.html bye! off to pack my precious few possessions ea p.s. thanks for the list-crush votes, boys/girls...i will be off to Montreal with 'l'amour' on my mind... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sat Oct 2 14:56:41 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 14:56:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Help me god! Message-ID: <000701bf0cdd$f5466400$bdd4b0c2@default> Well, I'm about to head off to my first Sinister meeting, in Glasgow. I just hope that someone turns up :) I'll let you know, cheerio -- Jason Andreas -- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Sat Oct 2 20:20:23 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 15:20:23 EDT Subject: Sinister: The dream state (and Richard Stillgoe) Message-ID: <72a094a4.2527b4f7@aol.com> Hola amigos (amigas?) Look,I may have dreamed this because I got up and checked my mail really early this morning,but were people asking abt a Richard Stillgoe tv prog?(I bloody hope so or this mail will be total gibberish)(well,more gibberish than usual) LEAN CLOSER KIDS It was called "Stillgoes On"and did indeed feature that battleship game also amusing anagrams,limericks and the bearded one playing self-composed tunes on his upright organ(Ooer!).Is this Britain's most versatile man?.Am I sad posting on a saturday night?Who shot JR? Steve S xx. Q.What happened to Jesus when he went to Mount Olive? A.Popeye kicked the shit out of him.Arf!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pamelab at xxx.com Sat Oct 2 20:25:12 1999 From: pamelab at xxx.com (pamela berry) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 20:25:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ease a mint into your mouth Message-ID: <37F65C18.9847900D@mcmail.com> hello all, it's been ages. what's the word? it's thunderbird. I know that, I was just making conversation. anyway... don't despair, todd herrmann. I had your exact job at the university of maryland many moons ago. this kind of thing will put hair on your chest. worked for me. if I'm not mistaken and the job hasn't changed too much, aren't you pretty much the mailmeister for the dorm? no time for crying over music differences when you've got that much power. it would be a damn shame if chickyboom lost her keys and that care package full of sweets and money from mom and dad in the same week, wouldn't it? back in my days at university, when dinosaurs regularly hogged the front row at the hoff's midnight flick, the mail system there was incredibly reliable. I once wrote a friend's address on a sock with a magic marker and dropped it in the mail just to see if they'd send it. I was not disappointed. oh the stories I could tell! christopher told us about his good friend robin williams. I have that kind of relationship with steve buscemi and steve martin, both of whom I've yet to meet. so I've never had my picture taken with them, but in one of my many many spy dreams steve martin and I were being chased by the baddies, and while hiding underwater in a swimming pool together, he asked me to marry him. imagine my involuntary giddiness when I watched that omnibus on him the other night and found out he's single again! alas, I'm not. doesn't that just figure? our timing's always off, me and steve. we're like two ships. the lambchop and pet sounds box set stuff on the soundtrack of that show helped check my spiral into depression. I'm with trousers, the royle family is indeed fantastic. sometimes I can't make out immediately what ricky tomlinson's saying. on this week's show I'm sure I heard him exclaim 'mick cooke's grazing in the grass, my ass.' he's not wrong. that fabulous song was originally made hugely popular by hugh masekela in 1968, it's sold millions of copies. in 1969, the friends of distinction did a cover of it that stayed in the charts for weeks, adding crazy groovy words, like 'grazin' in the grass is a gas baby can you dig it!' this version with lyrics is the one I'd really love to hear mick and friends do. can I get a witness? to kick off october, the hubby and I went to audition a chi-chi turntable at a hi-fi store yesterday afternoon. after the salesman doesn't recognize the records you bring (what!? no hotel california? good god man, where's the pink floyd?) you get to sit in a big room by yourselves. there's a big black leather couch, a coffee table with a bigass bowl of mints on it, and a door with windows so the salesguy can keep an eye on you and his overpriced stuff. and way up there ahead of you sits a turntable and an amp and some speakers, apparently at the optimum distance away to hear it all perfectly if you're sitting exactly in the middle of the couch (knowledge that will come in handy if mike and I ever move to a park or a large auditorium). the stylus cartridge alone was £800, which doesn't really meet my needs. after a boozy night out sometimes I need to drop the needle on the mat a couple of times before actually finding the edge of the record. naturally we took along some of our favorite records. we listened to 'ease your feet into the sea' really fucking loud and then that thing happened where everything was perfect and right in the world, and I said to myself, self, you should post to the list that brought you and the hubby together in the first place and introduced you to lovely and hilarious people and paved the way for you to have that sexy dream about peter miller. awwwww. and then someone, I'm not naming names, ruined the mood by putting a 15-year-old seven inch on by everyone's favorite Effeminate Futurists. From The Eighties. the salesguy, not passing up his only opportunity to bond, stormed in with an excited 'hey I have this album!' our makeout session on the big black couch was over, just like that. next week: we test-drive a porsche armed only with a fourth generation tape copy of tigermilk! I'll let you know how it sounds. xopam +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GBCH at xxx.uk Sat Oct 2 21:06:53 1999 From: GBCH at xxx.uk (Chris_t_opher) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 21:06:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tall tales - by a tall person... Message-ID: <005a01bf0d11$ac40db80$7c57883e@homebuilt> Tra la la.. MY NEW BAND I know, i know, that heading should be followed by the standard request to come and watch my band play in a pub in Blackburn on Sunday night... but i dont care. My (new/old but with less people in) band started today and already, im not into it. We happily played away, in a musty cellar for 4 hours. Got through 3 song's 'n' all. One was a Goo Goo Dolls cover, to give you some indication or sound. The problem was, there wasnt a spark in it. We ALREADY sound like your standard issue boring rock band. Like Embrace and Oasis, but with EVEN less *whomph*. Impossible, i know, but we somehow managed! Oh how i long for a band with a difference. A catchy, not stolen song. A change in tempo. Something that makes me want to play it 20 times. ANYTHING! I cant do anything about it cos im the bass player and am never seen as the creative influence - im just ignored when i make the most blatently obvious statement about the song "Desperately needing a break right there" Oh well. Anyone know any good 4 Tracks that i can do *my own stuff* on? AND, IN GENERAL... What makes something good? Like Belle and Sebastian. What makes us get all obsessive about them? Why are some people soooooo inventive and others, just your standard-issue copycats? I try to be a genius, but i know i never can. Everything ive ever done, whether it be a sport or even just learning to drive, i've never got past the point of being "good". At chess, i was ranked 788th in Scottish schools, but why not any higher. So, to end, there is a chance that i really excel at something, but there are so many *things* out there, i will probably never find it. Why is God so crue? This was as pointless as an orange. Chris_t_opher - the eternal never-genius and athiest. ICQ:44383377 The East River Pipe Community - Http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/EastRiverPipe You've got to go - its only natural. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From meepmeepmeepmeep at xxx.com Sat Oct 2 22:14:11 1999 From: meepmeepmeepmeep at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mr=20Beaker?=) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 14:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Who'd Piss in a Pilgrims Pot ? Message-ID: <19991002211411.10966.rocketmail@web1403.mail.yahoo.com> Peter Miller enquired... >WHAT'S A GRECIAN URN WORTH? Six birds in a bush with beer and skittles please. >Surely Exeter City's new DUKE STAND is a tribute not >only to the Duke himself... Blah blah Blah... I heard they were going to name it after Mr Tim, but Hopkins Stand is a contradiction in terms. boom boom. i think Katrina should start a list-collection so that we can buy out one of the less well off footy clubs in Scotland. Rather than the somewhat dead Poetry Parrot sketch, we could take it in turns, week in week out, to manage the team. Bagsy Peter Withe up front. I wrote to the Rt Hon Tony Blair MP and his friend Ben Bradshaw today. Only because the RSPCA asked me to do so. Having just got to the bit about hunting with dogs I realised i should actually have been watching the road and not writing a letter and ran over three foxes, two stags and a tescos bag. silly me. Now the good bit... Bye. Adrian, "not always what he was cracked up to be" Evans. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From editor at xxx.uk Sat Oct 2 22:59:45 1999 From: editor at xxx.uk (piezoelectric unit) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 22:59:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: gothic archies In-Reply-To: <01bf0c0f$fd026aa0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: people, hello. i had a look around the room yesterday and noticed a little pointed black shoe peeking from beneath the table that holds my printers. 'hello' i said, 'those look like gothic pointy boots unless i am very much mistaken... that must be the Duke, back from his travels on the goth trail (this is a less well known varitaion on the hippy trail of yore; stephin merritt is a bit of an expert on it, as is mr Peter Murphy.)'. And it was. I told him about what Miller had been saying (see below)... >Surely Exeter City's new DUKE STAND is a tribute not only to the Duke >himself, but also a tribute to the combative stance he takes on issues >such as Manda Rin's refusal to do swaps, as well as a sideways nod to >the Dexy's Midnight Runners classic DANCE STANCE. and he said 'yeah. he's spot on, as ever. never misses a trick does that man who dwells in the wilds of Spain. Did i ever tell you about my adventures in the backstreets of Verona?' but i stopped listening. I told him later i'd already read Patrice Chaplin. We both agreed, however, that taking stands was an Important Thing To Do. HE started expanding this, wittering on about being 16 and all that, but i told him everyone had heard it all before and that such talk was so '97. He just sulked. Miller also pulled out the caps and writ loud: >I SEE A SITAR AND I WANT TO PAINT IT BLACK The Duke agreed with that wholeheartedly, adding that as he'd been wandering through the Gothic Archies of NYC, he'd actually spotted a sitar painted black, which was kind of spooky. Said it was being played by a tiny goat, but i think that's just another example of how drugs are not very good for you. KIDS! just say no. Especially if it's a strange looking bloke in black... Me, i say fuck the sitar. Hippie shit... Once again, I'm with Hopkins on this one. Went to a funny disco party last night with the Duke and his Duchess. The venue was populated with a variety of interesting characters, one of whom i hadn't seen in three years and who asked me what i'd been listening to. i ummed and ahed and eventually said 'The Magnetic Fields. Exclusively.' She looked confused and said she liked Belle & Sebastian. i told her the Duke knew all about them and could bore her to tears talking about them, and she politely withdrew from the room. Understandable, if a little rude, i thought. The disco was hilarious. The Duke and Duchess shook their booty to The Scream, because as the Duchess later said 'we met under Bobby's gaze...'. Strange people. The DJ also played two WHO! songs, although they were quite dull ones about generations and pinballs and no-one danced. Every song that was played was a cliche, it was hilarious. The three of us played at guess what comes next and ticked off the tunes as they were played. Pils was a quid a bottle, which made the game a lot more exciting. They played the Manics a couple of times and the Duke embarrassed himself by telling some attractive young chap that he used to 'hang with Richey'. The young lad asked 'Richey who?' and we all laughed at him. the Duke i mean, not the lad, who was way too good looking to laugh at. i hate young people, they look far too good. Grrr. the Duke is still around tonite actually, and he's drinking beer before we all go out again to another party. this one will have lots of air hostesses and pilots at it, and the Duke intends to get very drunk and tell everyone about his gothic exploits as DJ with the Rose of Avalanche. I am dead impressed because this mail actually mentioned B&S. chin up. Piezo Unit 3b. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GBCH at xxx.uk Sat Oct 2 23:18:21 1999 From: GBCH at xxx.uk (Chris_t_opher) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 23:18:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: quickly now.. Message-ID: <009201bf0d24$09cee140$7c57883e@homebuilt> ..before the backlash. I said that we covered a Goo Goo Dolls song. Im trying to save you all wasting energy by laughing at me... It WAS NOT my idea, i hate them, but the others wanted to do one cover. I made a comprimise in taste by saying Rebel Rebel by Bowie, but they were having none of it! Like i was saying, i have NO influence for some reason. NOT MY FAULT Chris_t_opher ps. To Conclude, IT WASNT MY IDEA!!!!!!!!!!! The East River Pipe Community - Http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/EastRiverPipe You've got to go - its only natural. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Oct 3 00:05:04 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 19:05:04 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Tripe & Onions, (with no onions) Message-ID: <199910021905_MC2-8759-DC0D@compuserve.com> Hi Perfumed Ones, Nice to see so many old codgers out amongst the yoof on the Sinister streets recently, shuffling around, hacking, & muttering about the war. Dot Allison was excellent at The Arts Centre, we'll have to buy some records. Arab Strap were too, although towards the end Aidan & Malcolm were taking it in turns to walk off-stage in a huff. This probably because of the cool dudes down the front (out on their first big weekend?) sitting on the edge of the stage/in circles, back to band, chatting through their set. Even the Middleton Mad Axeman stare couldn't scare them into realising what they were doing. Proud Dad sends thanks to Il Duce, Signor Miele, for pinning the photo of Sally & I in our Bowlie chalet on the Sinister board, coz she looks dead pretty in it. Michele - Sally thought that being a Sinistereen at second hand didn't qualify her for meet-ups, so she met up with the Super Furry Animals in Virgin & got put on the guest list for their gig that evening instead. Someone stole my copy of Don't Fear The Reaper, a long time ago Going back not quite such a long way, I couldn't make head or tail out of Damon's second poem My hand is up in answer to Mr Messent's Eifel 65 question, (which is probably why this took so long to type) Adam: Claude Lorrain, Poussin, Corot, Courbet, Renoir, Monet, Gauguin, Cezanne, Degas, Pissarro, Seurat - but I guess you get the picture Randy Kalifornia's Dad was the drummer in Spirit Luckily for true Belle Heads everywhere Sir Cliff made me take out the extended comparison between Isobel & a sitar Ailsa speculated about Stuart D's motivation for writing songs for B&S: I thought it was just to earn royalties to finance all the projects he's really into. However, I agree that they do come out pretty well despite that. Approbation is the new props Sister Who Came First, what's the difficult part about a tape for me? Alasdair "Pele" Cook: Grazing In The Grass was played at the Gormless Weebles concert in London. A careful listener would also have heard it played by the DJ (Beans?) shortly after the triumphant end of B&S' Bowlie set. I love Alistair when he takes the piezo out of himself Like Trousers, Like Brain David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Sun Oct 3 02:12:23 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 21:12:23 EDT Subject: Sinister: The Grevious Angel... Message-ID: <4ac259c2.25280777@aol.com> Ok, Nick I stand corrected about being a year off as to when the Beatles first tripped. Their most obvious LSD record, in my opinion, is Revolver which was released in '66 and written in the second of '65 so I guess we're both right. Well, the McCartney songs are pretty much standard Beatle fare but Lennon and Harrison's tunes are more far out than anything they ever tried (especially Tommorrow Never Knows and She Said She Said, which incidentally was written about that first LSD trip). Anyone else notice half the guitars on that record sound like sitars? I'll be dodging the bricks now... I bought Gram Parson's two solo records the other day and I am just simply amazed. I thought Big Star and Wilco were really great, touching Southern Rock (tm) but Gram just blows them all to peices. Is it just me or does he write the saddest songs on earth about ghosts visiting their loved ones in their sleep, and brides dying on their wedding day and such. Oddly enough when you hear him and Emmylou belt them out its amazingly comforting and beautiful and not really as sad as you may think. I guess it doesn't hurt that I'm a southern boy at heart so I dig the overtly country tunes as much as the soulful rockers... To my good friend and long-standing Mario Kart adversary Todd Matthew Herrmann, I say follow Pam's advice and "go all the way to being brutal." Trust me, if an idiotic little minx like that claims she can dig whatever you're listening to then its probably not a good thing. A few weeks back someone insulted Stereolab in my store and then proceeded to buy the new Godsmack so it all evens out. People like that will be stupid and myopic their entire lives so its no use getting all upset over it, although she was a pretty bitchy little sort wasn't she? How come we haven't heard from Mrs. Lauren Tigerxdare in awhile? I sure she's ok after the emotional upheaveals of the past few weeks. Later Steve C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sun Oct 3 12:53:21 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:53:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Glasgow Update Message-ID: <003701bf0d95$e4cea7a0$30ccb0c2@default> Hi all, Well, in my eyes anyway, the meetup was really good fun. Everyone was really friendly and welcoming (even though I didn't have a clue what they were talking about half of the time ) Big thanks and hugs to; Ailsa, Alasdair, Owen, Jamie, Jack, Jennifer, Jennifer's friend who looked like someone, my mate Andrew, Callum, Ailsa's boyfriend (Neil, I think, but not entirely sure, sorry) and anyone that I've missed, although I think that's everyone.... Had a great night folks, we'll have to do it again sometime :) g'night -- Jason Andreas -- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sun Oct 3 14:34:15 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 14:34:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Glasgow Meetup (added point) Message-ID: <001101bf0da3$fdd52d60$53ccb0c2@default> See, and I didn't mention Calumn's Palmpilot once ;) -- Jason Andreas -- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LAWMIK00 at xxx.nz Mon Oct 4 01:27:04 1999 From: LAWMIK00 at xxx.nz (LAWRENCE CHARLES MIKKELSEN) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:27:04 +1200 Subject: Sinister: geneva MP3s Message-ID: <1928DAE574B@kinloch.ait.ac.nz> hey kids. I was wondering if there were any Geneva fans out there? I've been unsuccessfully attempting to download the new MP3s from their site (www.geneva-music.com) The internet bandwidth here is aweful, and the last time I tried it said it would take 15 hours to download! Ummm - except that my ISP throws me off after two, Anyway, if anyone out there is a fan, and would like to e-mail the files to me (there is one up there now, and one which was taken down a week or so ago) I would be filled with joy. I don't know if I have anything that you would want in return, but I have loads of 'good stuff'. Anyway, if anyone can help me (oh please God) please mail the MP3s to the following address (not this one ..) mikelsen at akn.quik.co.nz thanks for taking the time to read this totally non-B&S related post. Lawrence. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GBCH at xxx.uk Sun Oct 3 18:03:24 1999 From: GBCH at xxx.uk (Chris_t_opher) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 18:03:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hmmmm.... Message-ID: <001001bf0df8$7012e440$b933883e@homebuilt> (Im really sorry if this is the third time youve all received this message. My Outlook Express is playing up) Dum diddy dum dum.... La la. Ehllo. NETBALL ON TELE..... Just a thought. LEEDS UNI... Anyone have any feelings about The Univesity of Leeds or Leeds city in general. My brother's just got back from 2 weeks there and he's trying to convince me to apply. Everyone i know says that the city is a bit of a *Concrete jungle* and really boring. ....WHICH LEADS TO..... How do you know if you are a *big city person*? I ask, cos the only really big city im thinking of going to is Nottingham. And that isnt even *that* big a city. I like to visit Manchester, but how do i know whether i could stomach 3-4 years in one? And how do i know that i wont get too caught up with the social scene there? My brother went to the Uni of Manchester and immediately started going out allllll the time and became a DJ. He then proceeded to fail his second year and it took a hell of a lot of bugging by my mother to keep him in. He's now go a fairly low-paid job cos he got a 2-2 and not the 2-1 he was easily capable of. That probably didnt interest ANYONE at all.. Chris_t_opher - the 3 times in 12 hours boy (In the Peak of his physical fitness.) The East River Pipe Community - Http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/EastRiverPipe You've got to go - its only natural. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GBCH at xxx.uk Mon Oct 4 01:38:12 1999 From: GBCH at xxx.uk (Chris_t_opher) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 01:38:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hmmmm.... Message-ID: <001b01bf0e00$bd88a0e0$b933883e@homebuilt> (Im really sorry if this is the third time youve all received this message. My Outlook Express is playing up) Dum diddy dum dum.... La la. Ehllo. NETBALL ON TELE..... Just a thought. LEEDS UNI... Anyone have any feelings about The Univesity of Leeds or Leeds city in general. My brother's just got back from 2 weeks there and he's trying to convince me to apply. Everyone i know says that the city is a bit of a *Concrete jungle* and really boring. ....WHICH LEADS TO..... How do you know if you are a *big city person*? I ask, cos the only really big city im thinking of going to is Nottingham. And that isnt even *that* big a city. I like to visit Manchester, but how do i know whether i could stomach 3-4 years in one? And how do i know that i wont get too caught up with the social scene there? My brother went to the Uni of Manchester and immediately started going out allllll the time and became a DJ. He then proceeded to fail his second year and it took a hell of a lot of bugging by my mother to keep him in. He's now go a fairly low-paid job cos he got a 2-2 and not the 2-1 he was easily capable of. That probably didnt interest ANYONE at all.. Chris_t_opher - the 3 times in 12 hours boy (In the Peak of his physical fitness.) The East River Pipe Community - Http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/EastRiverPipe You've got to go - its only natural. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Mon Oct 4 05:17:15 1999 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:17:15 +0800 Subject: Sinister: sinister manifesto Message-ID: we have reached a time in our collective history wherein the balance is shifting. what once had an order is being swept away into disorder and decay. the new order lacks consistency and coherency, the old order is faded and morose. this, brothers and sisters, is the time to strike. we are the sebastianites, the pure and true followers of belle and sebastian, come to lay claim to this barren wasteland. we bring an aged youthfulness and cynical optimism that will lead us into battle and through it feeling battered when we truly were not. we will hold our calves like flayed sausages and sing about intelligent machines with arms of sex. we are the nouveau and nouvelle and nouveaux. we will personify the living and raise them from the dead. we will dance to roolz and droolz and mayhap toolz long into the night, proclaiming joss as the mighty king of the party to which there is no end. we will lose ourselves and ourself in a myriad of lost weekends and find ourselves in flower beds watching the dew fall upon the wreckage of western society as it continues it's futile struggle against the impending apocalypse. the wreck of the zephyr and the rebirth of the phoenix, rewound and played by sisyphus on the celestial steenbeck of modern society. repetition becomes synonomous with poison, absinthe instead of currare. but enough emotion, let us not waste the day. our reminscences can only deter us for so long, we are intent upon the final strike. with that, i you, the people of sinister, the six theses. 1. society is a curse, nationality is a bind. we agree to free ourselves and stand in direct opposition to any who attempt to segregate themselves or others in terms of location, mental, physical, or metaphysical. 2. we frown upon physical exertion, both our own and that of others. we despise football, in all lands, and listen to music while lying on our backs with limpid musculature. 3. if one is tempted to ask why said list does not discover ___ band of moment, said person should think first, then cut their ear off. if said person still wishes to ask said question, said fate will meet him, her, it or them. 4. we worship a god of nectar and abhor a phallic place. 5. though we long for a society without boarder of gender and sex, we seek the ultimate vulgar experience of sexuality, as relayed third person with a number of important details replaced by nonsense words. 6. order is the bain of all socities. opposition will be listened to, but surely overcome, as the new order of sebastianites leads the procession into the next battlefield. join to us, we like thai elephants! love and rockets, magnetic megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu are we not men? we are magnetic fields. http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ updated 8/5/99 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 12:18:28 1999 From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 04:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: people aren't fine Message-ID: <19991004111828.26135.rocketmail@web1405.mail.yahoo.com> I thought that it would be safer to stay at home instead of going to the glasgow meet up. I don't like town much. If I go there, I end up walking around the streets for hours on end, buying a donut, and then popping into record shops to look at cds. It's different if you have a purpose . I don't. I walk round blocks repeatedly, then maybe walk for a mile in one direction, decide to pop up to the west end, then when I'm half way there, decide that I can't be bothered. Then I'll try to go home, only to discover that I don't have enough for the bus/ train fare, so I'll walk for a while then get the bus as near to home as I can... and occasionally getting the wrong bus and ending up in pollok or govan because they have changed the bus numbers. Or maybe asking shop owners if they'll give me a job. Plus, I'm too young to get into pubs, and I am quite scared of meeting sinister people. Can anyone give me a job? Someone asked if lauren was okay. I think she is... I mean I have mailed her a couple of times and she sounds fine. Is it wrong to have an overpowering desire to hug your hi-fi when mary-jo is playing? I hate it when people listen to your feelings, but don't actually care about you - I't's a trick. If they do care, then they'll tell you how they feel. If they don't, then they've got you again. I could ramble for a living. Am I not allowed to climb anymore? babychris CRYSTALBALLS Ps. - I wish I could mail my mind, but I can't , plus someone would probably use it against me. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 12:37:45 1999 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 12:37:45 BST Subject: Sinister: sinister:girlfriend in a foreign land Message-ID: <19991004113745.46588.qmail@hotmail.com> Well, this is my first post after a longish time hanging around and observing the major players on this list. Belle and Sebastian seem to be playing a major role in my life at the moment for not only do my housemates and I here in sunny Manchester have all the E.P.s and albums (having 4 stereos playing TBWTAS simultaneously is a truly magical experience, especially at 3am armed with Vodka) but also because B+S make a near perfect girlfriend substitute. You see, my girlfriend has gone off to Paris for 10 months so I need something to help me through the lonely nights. I am actually thinking of dumping my girlfriend becuase LLPJ seems to be much more my type... p.s. Apparantly one B+S (possibly the boy Geddes) will be D.Jing at the Star And Garter pub in Manchester sometime this month. This is not an unsubstantiated rumour. I spoke to one of the other D>J's who plays there who knows whats going on. I hope anyway or have just made a twat out of myself. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eahostet at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 16:33:10 1999 From: eahostet at xxx.com (E. A. Hostetter) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 08:33:10 -0700 Subject: Sinister: re: sinister manifesto Message-ID: <37F8C8B6.9BC6C3E3@interlog.com> In ref to Magnetic Megan's Sinister Manifesto, belief > 4. we worship a god of nectar and abhor a phallic place. I must dissent..... and admit that i there are times when my heart races and i get warm and tense that i bite my lip because i so long to visit.... a phallic place ;) ea +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From messentw at xxx.uk Mon Oct 4 15:01:43 1999 From: messentw at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?William=20Messent?=) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:01:43 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I Smell A Hippy Message-ID: <19991004140143.3397.rocketmail@web302.mail.yahoo.com> Yo. TIME-MANAGEMENT SKILLZ I was 5 and a half hours late for work today; I shit you not. I work just outside London, and I awoke in Haslingden, Lancashire at 8 o clock. The reason for my predicament is twofold, dear readers. I can put it down to clumsiness and drink. I drove up on Saturday to see my friends, parked up about half-five and went for a pint. When I went to get the car and drive us all home at 6:20, the buggers had locked the car park. I made a few frantic calls next day, only to be told the car park would not be opened until Monday morning; the geezer with the keys was, and I quote, "In Morecombe". Try telling your boss that you're nearly a day late for work because some bloke is in Morecombe. It doesn't go down too well. B&S CONTENT My mate Nicola plays in a band called Empress, and they played up in Glasgow the other day, and apparantly our Stuart went to see them! But only stayed for about 3 minutes. According to Nicola, "I think he turned up at the wrong club." I thought he was meant to stay in his bedroom all the time anyway. I feel cheated. As should he, he missed a treat by leaving. BRITISH TELLY I love telly. I especially love The Royle Family and identify very strongly with Anthony. I also like Hollyoaks and that Hip-Hop programme. Doesn't Vanilla Ice look funny these days? One time. That new show with Denise Van Outen is the biggest shower of shite I have ever seen on telly. POP MUSIC The band that I play in are supporting Mogwai in Manchester on 19 October, so a big shout out to any Manc Listees in the area, hope to see youse there. You'll love it. Massive love and respect, Will x ===== Visit The Remote Viewer homepage http://www.members.tripod.com/remoteviewer/ ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 16:10:05 1999 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:10:05 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Gay Jeremy from Airport is standing by... Message-ID: <199910041109_MC2-878E-30B6@compuserve.com> I tried putting Jelly Babies and rum out on the bird table every night - nothing. I tried blasting the talking book version of Oh What A Lovely War & Browning's' Porphiyrias' Lover out of my dad's car radio - nothing. I even tried a six foot phallus scented with mixed fruit and Channel No 5, but, alas not a sausage. This time I am determined to catch him. I have set up a sophisticated surveillance system at vast personal expense. Well, I saved up with my pocket money and I've been washing a few cars and mowing a couple of lawns (including the lawn of the old man at the end of the road, apparently he used to be in charge of a children's home in Birmingham in the 70's, nice. He invited me in for a 'drink or whatever', but I had to go, my tea was ready, and I needed to shower) to subsidise my meagre allowance but I have installed it none the less. Honest John the Bastard, or shitty to his friends has sold it to me. It consists of five and a half miles of tensioned string, eight hundred noise boxes, which to me look like old tin cans with marbles in 'em, but Honest John the Bastard assures me there not, a penny farthing and a large net. The string is to be placed in a clockwise direction around my village from the Spar shop owners' wing mirror on him Fiat van, the vicar's cock on top of the spire and from there it is attached to the handle to the door of the girls loos at the local school (that third one will be tricky). The noise boxes are to be set 2 metres apart and must have at least 3 marbles in each. I have arranged for Gay Jeremy from BBC 1's popular Airport to stand on 24 hour guard, hang on - You alright J - ooo, I sat on me walkie talkie, roger, roger, ooo how queer, - Who's Roger, oh I see, sorry Ahh, bless, he's a trooper. A-hem. Yeah, he's fine. His pin prick (I said pin prick) eyes will search the vast blue above our heads and give me early warning. We have arranged that when something fly's into view he is to clap his hands to give me early warning. So the idea being that I'll jump into action when he gives me the clap (I said clap.) I'll come tearing out of the camouflaged HQ on my penny f waving my net, and if all goes to plan I could have me a poetry parrot, or that retched dinosaur arse hole. I heard that he's trying to snuff the parrot out so that he can be the new poetry hard man, a sort of gay Dirty Den. I know that the parrot often takes short cuts round my way, I think he stops off at the Spar, once I saw him buying 20 B&H and some lighter fluid and quoting Whitnail & I, "I demand fine wine and cake". God, I would love it if the poetry parrot came round here. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 4 16:36:50 1999 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:36:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I am cursed Message-ID: Yes thats right I'm cursed. yet again I went to a Glasgow meet up yet again I didn't get the last train back 'cos someone said they could put me up in the city yet again I managed to lose the person I was staying with yet again Ailsa let me have a sofa in paisley I'm a dumb bastard and I'm cursed but thanks Ailsa and thanks Jason for organising a great night and all of you are invited to Stirling anytime but there's nothing to do here oh dear oh well you're invited anyway "We were twee before you" Stephen Pastel 1984 With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dunca_chap at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 16:49:05 1999 From: dunca_chap at xxx.com (Adam Chapman) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:49:05 GMT Subject: Sinister: Hello from 'sunny' Norwich Message-ID: <19991004154906.94180.qmail@hotmail.com> Greetings Individuals. At long last, i've made it out of Somerset, into that other difficult to reach area; East Anglia, where amoung other things i am obtaining at great expense and heartache a university education courtesey of that home of concrete and fluffy rabbits, the University of East Anglia, Norwich. To anyone who remembers me from the Primrose Hill affair in July; Hello, and thankyou, it was marvellous. Thanks are also due to whever it was who recommended 'Behind the scenes at the Museum' on this list, eons ago, as i read it during the summer whilst employed to fleece the people of Yeovil for a round of Crazy Golf. A fine book, so many thanks. So long for now, Adam [Who neither knows nor cares what the best 'Smiths album might be...] ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Alexandre.Tobin at xxx.nl Mon Oct 4 17:03:00 1999 From: Alexandre.Tobin at xxx.nl (Alexandre Tobin) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 18:03:00 +0200 Subject: Sinister: nalda said Message-ID: <19991004155847078.AAA327@www-server.ucu.uu.nl@[131.211.105.90]> Hello hello everyone... I just wanted to drop a quick line and let you all know that Tigermilk - the Belle and Sebastian Webring has a new info page on Stuart David's debut novel 'Nalda Said', which is being published on October 18. On the site, you'll be able to see the cover (nice work!), along with some preliminary info and a chance to win a free copy of the book. So take a look at http://www.postmodern.co.uk now... Cheers for listening, Alex -++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++- -+++ alex tobin -+++ postbus 81-353 -+++ 3508 bh utrecht -+++ the netherlands -+++ -+++ phone +31.6.29208560 -+++ e-mail alex at pulped.co.uk -+++ website http://www.pulped.co.uk -++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Mon Oct 4 16:56:02 1999 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:56:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I had a dream.... Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB6970C34C@park_ex> yes, another one. In said dream I had a copy of the new B&S album and I was trying to make out what the tracks were called. One of them was definately called "Victoria [something]" possibly "Place", so if a track turns up with a title like that, I will have concrete proof that I am, in fact, psychic. Unlike, at the pub quiz last night, when they were doing anagrams at the start of each round. The theme was HORROR and the first answer was "Mary Shelley" and I said before the second round started "it'll be Bram Stoker next time", and it was. Hardly psychic, more stating the bleedin' obvious I suppose. Oh, we won the quiz, so if anyone wants to come down to Cheltenham next Saturday they can have a free beer on me.* *Prize limited to 1 beer per person. While stocks last. I did, however, predict in an e-mail to GEORGE DICKIE last week that someone would copy his style and thank you Craig for proving me right :) Comrade Magnetic Megan said: lots of stuff which I've replied to her personally about, but UP THE REVOLUTION anyway. Nothing like a good manifesto, that's what I say. As long as we don't end up doing a "Life of Brian" and split into The People's Front of Struan, The Popular Front of Isobel (yes, I know, popular and isobel in the same sentence, ha~ha~)and the Popular People's Front of Chris Geddes (SPLITTER!) Unity is Strength xoxo ComradeSteve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Mon Oct 4 17:41:15 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:41:15 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: stuart and stuart write Message-ID: Hello children - Watch With Mother time again. I've got two things to share with you all so gather round. Before I do, can I say it's lovely to see some ragged old faces back on the list from ages ago, it's like Remembrance Sunday. I'll take this opportunity to bore them to tears and remind others that you're all little darlings, but please remember when you post to the list to have a think about how many people receive what you send... I don't mean to be an old nag, honestly, and you're all doing swimmingly really. Once or twice though people tell me that the list traffic is a little too high and unfocussed to keep up with, so a little nudge to remind you all please to... think before you send. The list goes wrong when the majority of people don't have time to read the majority of posts, so please try and keep your audience in mind. Eeek you'll all hate me now. On to business. The first thing is that that nice man Stuart David has finally got a publisher for his book "Nalda", extracts of which some of you might have read on his Looper site at http://www.treehouse.clara.net but which he didn't ever finish putting up. The publishers have written to me (and other too) because they want YOU to hear all about it (and buy one). They're also sending me a copy for a competition, so we're having a "Tim Hopkins Swearing Contest" The idea is that you swear at Tim Hopkins in a Belle and Sebastian related way, via email, and he judges which is the best. You get points for (a) humour, (b) B&S content and (c) cussability (he says). DON'T swear at him yet, unless it's unrelated to the competition, we'll be sending on rules of engagement a little later this evening. Anyone who swears at Tim without good reason before the competition starts gets disqualified, although I'm sure someone will take advantage of the opportunity anyway. Anyway here's the blurb from the publisher (I've just seen Alex's mail: it might be the same blurb): ***** NALDA SAID - STUART DAVID'S INTRIGUING DEBUT NOVEL, PUBLISHED BY I.M.P FICTION, IS RELEASED 18/10/99 STUART DAVID WILL BE PERFORMING WITH LOOPER TO PROMOTE NALDA SAID, DURING THE WEEK OF RELEASE AND SIGNING COPIES - Saturday 16th October - Virgin, Glasgow. Doors 8.30pm, performing 9.00pm. Tickets available FREE from the store. Tel: 0141 353 2993 Monday 18th October - Virgin, Oxford Street, London. Doors 9.30pm, performing 10.00pm. Tickets available FREE from the store. Tel: 0171 631 1614 Tuesday 19th October - Borders Bookshop, Oxford Street, London. (Details TBC) Wednesday 20th October - Sallis Benney Theatre,University of Brighton. In conjunction with Borders, Brighton. Doors 8pm, performing 8.30pm Tickets are �7/�5 concs. Price includes a �3 discount off the book for that night only. Available from Borders Books, Music & Cafe, Churchill Square, Brighton. Tel: 01273 731122 Thursday 21st October - Virgin, Oxford. Doors 8.30pm, performing 9.00pm. Tickets available FREE from the store. Tel: 01865 723 906 Friday 22nd October - Virgin, Leeds. Doors 7.30pm, performing 8.00pm Tickets available FREE from the store. Tel: 0113 243 8117 You can buy Nalda Said in all good book and record stores from 18/10/99 You can also buy it MAIL ORDER - Send a cheque/international money order in pounds sterling, payable to Independent Music Press Ltd, for 7.99 PLUS 1. postage and packing. Allow 21 days for delivery, normally dispatched within 7 days. ABOUT THE BOOK - Riddled by an intense fear of his bizarre secret being discovered, the narrator of Nalda Said grows up in the strange seclusion of a shoddy caravan with his Aunt Nalda, whose own colourful storytelling leaves him perpetually trapped between fantasy and reality. Nalda's nephew eventually finds work as a hospital gardener where, perhaps for the first time, he finds true friendship and begins to realise that his dark secret has been suffocating what hope he had of ever leading a normal life. Finding himself in love, this socially disjointed figure struggles to reconcile his own curious view of the world with the stark daily reality that most people are forced to live with. Yet, his own bleak battle to break free from these mental shackles oddly reflects the desperation of the very same people who cruelly poke fun at him. Nalda Said is a disturbing, compelling and brilliantly crafted tale of one man's pained anxiety and desperate search for his dream - to live a normal life. ISBN: 0-9533275-2-3 Paperback, 160 pages Published: 18/10/99 Price: 7.99 uk pounds ***** Secondly, that other Stuart, Mr Murdoch asked me to pass on info on the following WWW site to you all, which he got at a pop star party, just cos. ***** > hey, this is for real. help feed the hungry for free! > > PLEASE take the time to read this. > The Hunger Site at the U.N. > > This is a really neat website. All you do is click a button and somewhere > in the world some hungry person gets a meal to eat at no cost to you. > The > food is paid for by corporate sponsors. All you do is go to the site and > click. > > But, you're only allowed one click per day so spread the word to others. > Visit the site and pass the word. > > http://www.thehungersite.com ***** That's it. Honey xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koendcr at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 17:52:08 1999 From: koendcr at xxx.com (Koen De Crock) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 09:52:08 PDT Subject: Sinister: Why not smile??? Reflections of a good time that could be better Message-ID: <19991004165208.31706.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello fellow sinisterians, wonderful people Finally, I've made it!!! Out of the fucking nursery and into the wonderful, magic world that is the sinister mailing list. So many fucking crazy people all combined by one major thing: their love for a small, gorgeous band called Belle and Sebastian. Okay, let me present myself. My name is Koen, i'm 23 years old and from Belgium. Crap, of course, I mean, why do you want to know how old I am. It's not that that matters. By the way, apparently Koen sounds a lot like the portuguese word Cuna� (any portuguese people who can confirm this???), which basically means the same as "cunt". As I have a lot of Portuguese friends who write me now and then, I am also known as el fortito, which means the small, but brave one. This is basically shite, because I am not small, and definitely not brave. But, my name is dutch also menas, yes...... "Brave". In case any of you would like to know, I study international political relations in Leuven, Belgium. I mainly do this: 1) because it is an extra year (I already have a degree) and don't want to work, and 2) because I am really interested in it (surprise.......). So, if I talk too much shite about every thing that goes wrong politically in the world, just kick me (virtually, of course) For now, I will shut up about it. So, why do we love Belle and Sebatsian's music so much? Is it because they make the most wonderful, poppish and lovely music in the world? YES. Is it because their music always sounds great, whether you're drunk, sober, doing the dishes, talking to your girlfriend or f***ing her? YES. Is it because they are a perfect substitute for a girlfriend (don't know whom of you wrote this, but it is true)? YES, and I should know: my girlfriend is Portuguese, from Lisbon, some 2000 miles away; when I miss her, I play B+S, the perfect medicine. Is it because they refuse to give in to the big money of the capitalistic major record companies (I am a left wing pseudo-anarchist, you know)? YES, of course...... And I could go on and on...... Anyway, are there any Belgian people on this list. Maybe, we could have a meet up in Leuven, or Antwerp, or Ghent, or Brussels..... So, my love for Belle and her Sebastian goes very far, but..... why have they only played once (as far as I know) in Belgium?? And why did they have to do it on a night I could not go??? So, come on, you press-shy (at least, that's what the papers say) popstars, come to Belgium and give me a treat!!!! My life does NOt revolve around Belle and Sebastian. At least not enirely. I also listen to other great stuff: Godspeed You Black Emperor, Mogwai, Motorpsycho, Low, dEUS (the Belgian pride), Do make Say Think, Sofa, etc....... The last albums I bought were: 1) Everything is nice (10 years of Matador): it features a brilliant Mogwai song called Hugh Dallas, previously unreleased (Don't know why it's not on one of their Albums or EP's, caues it's one of the best they've ever done. 2) The Carve Up: a CD compilation from the famous radio show on London's XFM, which is sadly stopped: it features an accoustic version of Nick Cave's "The Mercy Seat", and another exclusive Mogwai Song, "Nick Drake" (good enough, but they've done better). As I believe Music you listen to is always a reflection of someone's character, I hope this list gives you a bit of an Idea of mine. By the way, my friends say I am shy. This is not true, I just don't see the point in talking on and on without saying something. I went to a party of a friend yesterday. Drank a lot, the music was shite, but the people and the atmosphere were nice. Had a lot of laughs, saw a friend I hadnt seen for quite a while and finally could set my mind of my girlfriend somehow. Lost my glasses, found them back (all broken), so had to buy new ones. Fuck!!!!! But, did not let this spoil my weekend. Slept till two o'clock on Sunday, woke up with tigermilk, watched cycling on the telly, went to the pub for a few beers, etc... So you see, nothing much happened. By the way, how can I know my girlfriend is not cheating on me in Lisbon. I guess I will have to trust her, which I do, most of tthe time. But, sometimes I start doubting. I mean, what's the point in continiung this relationship anyway??? There's a lot of great girls here too, I hardly ever see her. We communicate by phone , letters or e-mail. We send each other gifts, etc.... The fact that I am still with her after one year must mean that she's actually so great that it's gonna be difficult to find a better girl. This makes me sad sometimes, because I know I will have to give up all muy friends, and family here to move to Portugal in a year or so... (She said she does not really want to live in Belgium). Is this realistic, or not???? Don't know. Love moves in mysterious ways. Anyway, If some of you have the same problem, you can always send me a private e-mail. My mind has wandered of now. I guess I will go now and listen to Belle and Sebastian some more. And come on, lets do a meet-up somehow, somewhere in the Vicinity of Belgium. Let the electronic renaissance live on El fortito, a.k.a. c*** ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koendcr at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 17:51:36 1999 From: koendcr at xxx.com (Koen De Crock) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 09:51:36 PDT Subject: Sinister: Why not smile??? Reflections of a good time that could be better Message-ID: <19991004165137.57226.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello fellow sinisterians, wonderful people Finally, I've made it!!! Out of the fucking nursery and into the wonderful, magic world that is the sinister mailing list. So many fucking crazy people all combined by one major thing: their love for a small, gorgeous band called Belle and Sebastian. Okay, let me present myself. My name is Koen, i'm 23 years old and from Belgium. Crap, of course, I mean, why do you want to know how old I am. It's not that that matters. By the way, apparently Koen sounds a lot like the portuguese word Cuna� (any portuguese people who can confirm this???), which basically means the same as "cunt". As I have a lot of Portuguese friends who write me now and then, I am also known as el fortito, which means the small, but brave one. This is basically shite, because I am not small, and definitely not brave. But, my name is dutch also menas, yes...... "Brave". In case any of you would like to know, I study international political relations in Leuven, Belgium. I mainly do this: 1) because it is an extra year (I already have a degree) and don't want to work, and 2) because I am really interested in it (surprise.......). So, if I talk too much shite about every thing that goes wrong politically in the world, just kick me (virtually, of course) For now, I will shut up about it. So, why do we love Belle and Sebatsian's music so much? Is it because they make the most wonderful, poppish and lovely music in the world? YES. Is it because their music always sounds great, whether you're drunk, sober, doing the dishes, talking to your girlfriend or f***ing her? YES. Is it because they are a perfect substitute for a girlfriend (don't know whom of you wrote this, but it is true)? YES, and I should know: my girlfriend is Portuguese, from Lisbon, some 2000 miles away; when I miss her, I play B+S, the perfect medicine. Is it because they refuse to give in to the big money of the capitalistic major record companies (I am a left wing pseudo-anarchist, you know)? YES, of course...... And I could go on and on...... Anyway, are there any Belgian people on this list. Maybe, we could have a meet up in Leuven, or Antwerp, or Ghent, or Brussels..... So, my love for Belle and her Sebastian goes very far, but..... why have they only played once (as far as I know) in Belgium?? And why did they have to do it on a night I could not go??? So, come on, you press-shy (at least, that's what the papers say) popstars, come to Belgium and give me a treat!!!! My life does NOt revolve around Belle and Sebastian. At least not enirely. I also listen to other great stuff: Godspeed You Black Emperor, Mogwai, Motorpsycho, Low, dEUS (the Belgian pride), Do make Say Think, Sofa, etc....... The last albums I bought were: 1) Everything is nice (10 years of Matador): it features a brilliant Mogwai song called Hugh Dallas, previously unreleased (Don't know why it's not on one of their Albums or EP's, caues it's one of the best they've ever done. 2) The Carve Up: a CD compilation from the famous radio show on London's XFM, which is sadly stopped: it features an accoustic version of Nick Cave's "The Mercy Seat", and another exclusive Mogwai Song, "Nick Drake" (good enough, but they've done better). As I believe Music you listen to is always a reflection of someone's character, I hope this list gives you a bit of an Idea of mine. By the way, my friends say I am shy. This is not true, I just don't see the point in talking on and on without saying something. I went to a party of a friend yesterday. Drank a lot, the music was shite, but the people and the atmosphere were nice. Had a lot of laughs, saw a friend I hadnt seen for quite a while and finally could set my mind of my girlfriend somehow. Lost my glasses, found them back (all broken), so had to buy new ones. Fuck!!!!! But, did not let this spoil my weekend. Slept till two o'clock on Sunday, woke up with tigermilk, watched cycling on the telly, went to the pub for a few beers, etc... So you see, nothing much happened. By the way, how can I know my girlfriend is not cheating on me in Lisbon. I guess I will have to trust her, which I do, most of tthe time. But, sometimes I start doubting. I mean, what's the point in continiung this relationship anyway??? There's a lot of great girls here too, I hardly ever see her. We communicate by phone , letters or e-mail. We send each other gifts, etc.... The fact that I am still with her after one year must mean that she's actually so great that it's gonna be difficult to find a better girl. This makes me sad sometimes, because I know I will have to give up all muy friends, and family here to move to Portugal in a year or so... (She said she does not really want to live in Belgium). Is this realistic, or not???? Don't know. Love moves in mysterious ways. Anyway, If some of you have the same problem, you can always send me a private e-mail. My mind has wandered of now. I guess I will go now and listen to Belle and Sebastian some more. And come on, lets do a meet-up somehow, somewhere in the Vicinity of Belgium. Let the electronic renaissance live on El fortito, a.k.a. c*** ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Mon Oct 4 19:37:04 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:37:04 -0400 (EWT) Subject: Sinister: Observations on a digest, Nalda Said, etc. Message-ID: Okay, after reading the latest digest I just had some issues I wanted to get my thoughts out about. THE SINISTER MANIFESTO I found this interesting, but the word Manifesto always makes me frightened, because it always says to me "let me tell you how to live your life." Now I am not saying this in Megan's case (although I did wonder what brought said manifesto on...) but with the recent politcal climate in the US, what with the elephant dung Virgin Mary and the Christian Coalition getting together for a powwow last week, I am a bit wary of people asseritng their ideology lately. I refuse to push my thoughts on anyone--but I am frankly getting tired of people wanting to decide for me how to live my life. I am 24 years old and I am a big boy and can make my own decisions, and if I choose to assert my wish to see an elephant dung Virgin Mary (which frankly is more interesting than the usual virgin mary's I've seen about) then I will go see it, Rudy Guiliani and the Christian Coalition be damned. I want public funds to go for it as well, because I am part of the public and I pay taxes and I think that people should be given an opportunity to see it. NALDA SAID I am of course intrigued by Stuart's foray into print, but I am also weary of such things. I have consciously passed up novels by Peter Farrelly and Stephen Fry (two people I find very funny/entertaining in the media that I was introduced to them in) because of that very fact. I often wonder WHY people are being published and if they received their initial fame through a different media, I will be suspect. My main issue here is that I doubt Stuart David would have been granted the ability to publish Nalda Said had he not been "Stuart David of Belle and Sebastian fame," something that is the first thing pointed out in the author bio on the Amazon.com UK web page for Nalda Said. I will reserve such judgement until after I have read the book however. I'M NOT DOWN OFF THE SOAPBOX YET I was dismayed to find out today that the media giant that owns half of the radio stations in Cleveland is buying the company that owns the other half. So much for radio quality. Sorry but 2 college radio stations and an NPR station are small oases of hope and they seem to be getting swallowed up. I LOVE IT WHEN... Someone thinks a job is too menial for them so they make me or another hard working person do it instead. I always want to say, "Boy, do you know how to get on the right side of the worker's rights guy." MAYBE THE SUN WILL SHINE TODAY My gran had some awful cancer surgery today and made it through. We feared the worst and she ended up making it, but she has a long road to go. Thanks for letting me vent. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From robhalcrow at xxx.net Mon Oct 4 19:48:56 1999 From: robhalcrow at xxx.net (robhalcrow at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 19:48:56 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Little birds in winter time, hungry are and poor... Message-ID: <199910041848.TAA03109@boober.lineone.net> Dear everyone, I only get to see digests at weekends now, if that, but I promise I won't post without reading everything. Cross my heart. Anyway, on the subject of the next album Ailsa was right. When I spoke to Richard C in the summer he said he wasn't writing anything for the album. I can't remember who said they'd rather have all Stu M songs but whoever it was I don't agree. I think one of B&S's big attractions for me is the way that everyone gets a go at their own songs and the band manages to come up with a lovely arrangement every time. So a song which you might politely describe as "slight" (like "Paperboat"?) becomes something memorable when they've all done their bit. Or is that too idealistic? Following on from Laura Lew's book list recommendations I don't think liking Nick Hornby's "High Fidelity" is a bloke thing. I'm a bloke and I think it's crap. It's demeaning to men...oh we're so silly and anal and just little boys inside...how wonderful of women to deign to condescend to have anything to do with us. Or is that too cynical? (You may notice a not so interesting dichotomy emerging). However "Fever Pitch" and "About A Boy" are v good, I reckon. Lastly if any Sinister types are knocking about Goldsmiths College for the next year or so (like what I am) feel free to email me. Then we can say hello. Bye Rob +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 20:04:53 1999 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:04:53 GMT Subject: Sinister: Hoochie mama, show your nanas Message-ID: <37fafa2c.4238168@post.demon.co.uk> Hello Rascals, First of all, I bring you glad tidings of great comfort and joy. I just saw Sinister's very own Wedding Belles JJ and Rachel at the palace of Imperial Majesty which is the Trafford Centre and I must say they looked positively radiant. Isn't love grand? Anyway, it's Monday evening, Wumpkinny-san is at Japanese class so I can play that Moloko single dead loud without being told off for having impure thoughts about Roisin Murphy. This weekend, she (Wumpkinny, that is, not Roisin Murphy) and I answered a call of nature, and went to the Yorkshire Dales, famed for being the place where James Herriot used to stick his arm RIGHT up cows' bottoms. No such...ahem...fisticuffs for us though, instead we gamboled and frolicked as new born lambs, visited magnificent waterfalls and went down a fucking big cave, where Wumkinny made some, frankly uncalled for, remarks about the errm...todgal nature of stalactites. And I bought a hat. It's a very nice hat, and it's got flaps to stop my little ears from getting a chill, so it's both stylish and practical. Thim "Devon knows how they make me so creamy" Hopkins wrote in a strange Wessex dialect: >You'm bin worrying moi loivestock. Gerrofff moi land. Actually he didn't. But imagine if he had? He did however state, with quite uncharacteristic forthrightness: >If it^Òs got a sitar on it, I^Òm not bloody well buying it. >Do I look like some kind of hippy? Frankly, you do. But get your hair cut and ditch the Tull '73 Tour t-shirt and all may not be lost. Chris Melonballs whined: >Can anyone give me a job? Yes. I've got a chimney that needs sweeping. Love, Tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 21:23:25 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 13:23:25 PDT Subject: Sinister: poetry parrot Message-ID: <19991004202325.82471.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi list! Havent heard from you in a while Oooh baby,I got me some internet access,and its super-duper-souped-up version. So Stuart David has got a book out now?? Where where where can we get this? I must tell you,I have had not one but TWO Belle and Sebastian dreams,and they go like this: (stupid irritating member of Barenaked Ladies,decked out in satin pimp suit) So the Barenaked Lady guy approached Stuart Murdoch and Stuart David and he was trying to be all hip and down with them,and he was like "What do you do for fun when you're on tour?" Stuart Murdoch:(blows smoke in bnl guy's face)"We go to libraries." (this was said in a true Ice Maiden fashion) Stuart David: (eagerly) Well,perhaps we could go to a movie together? The second dream I had was just Stuart David,and he jumped into a car I was driving because he had wanted to meet me,but was very mysterious and jumped back out and I desperatley wanted to meet him again,but there was this nasty other man who was trying to steal mr.david away from me and wanted to "score" with him and wouldnt leave us alone, and when I woke up I was filled with a sense of longing and despair. I must tell you,I am enjoying Chemistry like I never thought possible.The other day,I had to use sodium hydroxide which is VERY CORROSIVE we are talking flesh to bone here,and I turned a penny gold!There is a suspicious lab technicien hanging around though.She goes by the name of Miss Honey and I have *SEEN* with these very eyes,peaking out from beneath her sombre lab coat were... garter belts.She is always heating mysterious elements over the bunsen burner and I am intrigued. You know,Bill Clinton seems like a real wuss to what I have just learned about this Borgia family with Rodrigo Borgia and Cesare Borgia. They were the original Jerry Springer family,geez. Did you know they used to have orgies in the open air and throw chestnuts at each other? oh,yes,the poetry parrot peed on my shoulder didn't it? Well,I am not great with my poets,I only really know the more obvious ones,but we are studying Edgar Allan Poe at the moment and his seem very sad I think,well,I guess one would be if they were afraid of being buried alive all the time,anyways..here you go: Annabel Lee by Edgar Allan Poe It was many and many a year ago, In a kingdom by the sea, That a maiden there lived whom you may know By the name of Annabel Lee;- And this maiden she lived with no other thought Than to love and be loved by me. She was a child and I was a child, In this kingdom by the sea, But we loved with a love that was more than love- I and my Annabel Lee- With a love that the winged seraphs of Heaven Coveted her and me. And this was the reason that,long ago, In this kingdom by the sea, A wind blew out of a cloud by night Chilling my Annabel Lee; So that her highborn kinsmen came And bore her away from me, To shut her up in a sepulchre In this kingdom by the sea. The angels,not half so happy in Heaven, Went envying her and me:- Yes!that was the reason (as all men know, In this kingdom by the sea) That the wind came out of a cloud,chilling And killing my Annabel Lee. But our love it was stronger by far that the love Of those who were older than we- Of many far wiser than we- And neither the angles in Heaven above Nor the demons down under the sea, Can ever dissever my soul from the soul Of the beautiful Annabel Lee:- For the moon never beams without bringing me dreams Of the beautiful Annabel Lee; And the stars never rise but I see the bright eyes Of the beautiful Annabel Lee; And so,all the night-tide,I lie down by the side Of my darling,my darling,my life and my bride, In her sepulchre there by the sea- In her tomb by the side of the sea Ok..so the parrot has just pooped on Joss Moorkens shoulder, bwa ha ha.I think Joss should do the fantastic "The French Toast Man" poem. love, genevieve the alchemist ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 22:40:50 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:40:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Don't you know that Crew cuts and Trainers are out again Message-ID: Poppets, It was another Life Drawing Class this evening. It wasn't naked Stan, unfortunatley, who I think we've all grown quite fond of during the last two sessions. No, it was Thin Ray. I'm afraid Thin Ray isn't quite as controlled as naked Stan, as little Ray did indeed stand to attention. I blushed. It wasn't so much the erection that got me, rather the way Ray deperately cried "Down boy! down boy! go on, thats a good boy". I'll shall never forget the horror in his eyes. No one giggled. Dead Silence. I think I saw him shed a tear at one point. I may be joining the ranks of the working rather soon. My friend Katy has just got a job on the cake counter at Waitrose, and apparently at the end of the day, she gets to eat all the cakes which are left over. Which is good news, because Katy is one of those thin girls that moans about being fat, gallantly trying to stick out a belly that just isn't there, in the vain hope you'll sympathise. I want a job in the staff canteen, because apparently the boys from the Warehouse whistle at you and wink at you when you give them extra chips. Had a weird moment of clarity on friday evening. Mr Stevie Trousse said he remembered me being like a startled rabbit at the first sinister thing I ever went to. (It was a cold January evening, and myself and miss H got ourselves all dressed down and timidly shuffled into poetry cafe) I said something like "yes, little did you know I'd turn into the beast I've now become" but I think he'd stopped listening by that point. My point is, my WORD that startled little rabbit was much nicer than the boisterous chain-smoking drunk that has been put in her place recently. I'm going to go back to sitting in my room with Hannah (post darling, god damn it!) drawing hearts around pictures of Richey Edwards. Thats all I did before I met you lot, anyway. Does anyone know the guitar chords to 'You're in a bad way' by St Etienne? Just dial my number, or call my name... Erica x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Mon Oct 4 23:15:20 1999 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:15:20 -0400 Subject: Sinister: show us your tits Message-ID: i looked in my outbox today and good lord has it really been two weeks since my last post? of course, i'm not quite as sad as the list time i've written to the lot of you, so perhaps you won't give me quite as many mean looks after reading this one (yes, i saw those looks, don't pretend i didn't). LITTLE RAY i feel really bad for that poor model for Erica MacArthur's life drawing class. i also feel bad for his willy. B&S CONTENT i had an odd B&S dream the other night. i was at a seedy little bar somewhere with a few of my friends, and i noticed a poster on the door announcing upcoming performances. lo and behold, B&S was at the bottom of the list, with no date for when to expect them. i ran in and asked a woman behind a desk when they were coming. she said, "hold on a minute," and returned with someone who i think was supposed to be stevie jackson (tho it didn't look anything like him), maybe it was really mick cooke. but i remember telling my friends it was a guitarist, so it must've been stevie. besides, he was too tall to be mick. but too skinny to be stevie. huh. anyway, the bunch of us get led back to some back room where we sat around with stevie, and i think chris, and a few others i can't remember which ones, and talked and drank and me and the girls i was with flirted with the boys shamelessly. it was quite nice. NOW FOR THE TITTIES i went to a strip club on saturday with 4 people i live with, 3 girls and one boy. we're hiring a stripper for my friend's birthday, so we went to this place in connecticut called "the electric blue cafe" and scouted. we spent three hours there, picking a girl out, talking to her about pricing and such, then waiting for our friend chris (the one boy) to finish talking to the ridiculous number of people he knew there, but didn't know from there. he knew them most likely from the club he bartends at. anyway, i got so numb to looking at naked boobies all night that by the end of the evening i had a massive urge to show someone my tits. i stifled it, and now i'm glad i didn't. i wasn't drinking or anything, i guess it's just so damn catching, wanting to take your clothes off. connecticut has laws against full-nudity stripping, but i noticed at least one of the dancers showing more than a peek at her naughty bits below the waist. i'm hoping she got good tips for that. the next morning the whole ordeal seemed like a naughty dream i had, like none of it had happened. it wasn't particularly sexy stuff, either. it was quite base and really displayed the lowest aspects of our culture, watching these men stare blankly at naked girls shaking their boobs in their face, writhing on the floor, holding off until the last minute to give them a $1 tip. by the end of the night some of the girls dancing were so tired and bored of their job they put barely any effort into making it appear sexy. they just walked up to one of the men sitting by the dance floor and removed their top, held their boobs in front of them, and maybe wiggled a bit. it was more than a little depressing to watch. 3 years ago i wanted to be a stripper. i'm not so sure anymore. i wasn't so sure on saturday night because i don't think my body is nearly hairless or smooth enough (and i'm not about to shave the naughty bits), but now it just kind of grosses me out. i've got the tits for it, though (and proud of it). NO MORE TITTIES FOR YOU i went to my local newbury comics to buy the new tindersticks, despite the $26 price tag. unfortunately, someone beat me to it, so i bought a built to spill album, instead. "there's nothing wrong with love." i listened to it just now. i never noticed that 13th song before, and had no idea what the hell was going on because i wasn't paying attention. so i tracked it back to the beginning of the song and it all made sense. how strange. but funny. strange but funny. sweet sweet teri zuckerman called me the other night, and said she'd call me again when she was in town friday afternoon, but i never heard from her. did i miss her call? i don't know. so i got drunk instead. i've been drinking more than ever. i think something's wrong with me. i don't even really like being drunk. it annoys me. anyway, i hope you're not all frowning at me now, because i realize this post was really long, but i hope you liked the bit about the strippers. then again, you probably didn't. so i'll shut up now. -kerry "maybe if you find the time you'll make out with me, desperate me." -halo benders, "will work for food" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Mon Oct 4 23:13:06 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:13:06 +0100 (BST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: Here's Mr Tim Hopkins competition rules, as promised, that he wrote with his own hands. Good luck. Honey In The Lab xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Looper Profanathon Here are the rules: 1. The object of the game is to come up with the funniest and crudest Belle and Sebastian-related piece of profanity, as adjudged by me, Hopkins of this parish. 2. Players may submit one or more profane words or phrases via Honey's clever voting machine, as previously seen on "Barbarella". You do this by mailing "honey at majordomo.net" with just the word "Competition" in the subject of the email. Any variation on this won't get caught and you won't be entered (it's automatic), so watch your fingers. DON'T send entries to the list! 3. The profanities will be judged on three criteria: 3.1 Belle and Sebastian-ness 3.2 Humour quotient 3.3 Cussability (that is to say the viability of the profanity as a cuss word) 3.4 Examples (with thanks to Mister C. Leonard) 3.4.1 "Ya wee shite" scores high on the cussability count, fails in terms of humour and scores poorly on B&S relatedness. Ditto "Pastel" 3.4.2 "I weally weally wuv woo" is funny(ish) and mildly B&S related but has little or no cussability 3.4.3 "Struan" is not funny, is very B&S related and could be cussable at a pinch 4. Entries need not be, or have any direct relation to, existing profanities or cusses. They should, however, be viable cusses. 5. B&S relation can consist of references to members, songs, albums or other products of the moderately popular beat combo Belle and Sebastian. Also allowed are references to past exploits of the Sinister list. If I know what you are on about. 6. Entries will be disqualified if they offend the judging panel by virtue of (real or perceived) sexism, racism, or offensiveness towards creed or religion. Bodily functions are encouraged, however. 7. The winning entry will be publicised to the list if it is funny enough, and the winner will be furnished with a spanking new copy of Stuart David's much sought-after tome. I will try to prevail upon Honey to come up with prizes for the runners-up. I wouldn't hold my breath though. 8. Judging will take place on the 15th October. 9. The judges decision is final. No appeals are permitted, except sex appeals, and those are to be submitted to the List Owner, who likes that kind of thing. 10. No cash alternative to the prize is offered. I mean, as if. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hopkinstim at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 23:26:48 1999 From: hopkinstim at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Hopkins?=) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Rejected by rodents Message-ID: <19991004222648.8848.rocketmail@web1005.mail.yahoo.com> Just a few bits of irrelevant rubbish for you again. Read it, or don't, see if I care. Actually, I care desperately, but I'm not going to tell you that, am I? Robin said: > I think the closest you can get to real life is > "kitchen sink" drama. That is certainly true here in Sinister Towers, Rotherhithe, where we like nothing more of an evening than playing through great scenes from kitchen sink classics. Many's the time when Stevie Trousers is Dicky Burton in 'Look Back In Anger', away in his room blowing his horn, while I am upstairs shooting fat old women in the arse with an airgun in a wildly amusing pastiche of my favourite scene in 'Friday Night and Saturday Morning'. Sometimes Sez is Rita Tushingham to Stevie's Murray Melvin in 'A Taste Of Honey'. Meaning I get to be moaning old Dora Bloody Bryan. Again. 'A Taste Of Honey'. Quite gets my juices flowing, I can tell you. Nickole: > told me that i had to go to the spreadeagle > because once he (or someone..) saw graham coxon in > here. There weren't any obvious members of Blur hanging out on Friday. Trousers said he saw Robert Elms but I reckon it was just any old ginger. A few months ago when we were stoking ourselves with beer before the emotional rollercoaster which was The GoBetweens reunion at the Jazzmag Café, we saw one of the Field Mice, on the corner outside the pub. He looked sad (we'd have been disappointed in a Field Mouse if he'd looked all chipper) and was waiting for ages, looking all lost. Eventually we prevailed upon Steady Mike Stand Jones to go and invite him to come for a beer with us. We were turned down flat. The mistake Mike made was telling Big Bad Bob that we were all big Field Mice fans. He should have said that none of us sitting round the table could have given a shiny shite about the mewlers in question. Not only would this have given Bob another good reason to be miserable (and hence good material for further jaunty pop songs), it would also have been true. Sensitive singer-songwriters know when you are lying, you know. They're like your mum. Mister Alistair 'Fortune' Cookie said: > I don't think I can actually enjoy dancing to a > song unless I like the song Now I'm not a great one for shaking a tail feather at the best of times, you'll be relieved to hear, whether or not I like the music that is on. I recently had a fine time strutting my sadly non-proverbial stuff on a revolving dance floor in a club on a boat in sunny Newcastle Upon Tyne. A big boat, mind. I'm sure a correspondent with a greater knowledge than mine of stottie cakes and Lambton worms will tell you the name of the place. Reader, you would have been *mortified* if you'd seen the number of townies, neds and pikeys in the place, honestly, it was full of those born to the lower orders and *not like us*. God alone knows what manner of musical misery I was being fed, but I had a fantastic time dancing while the world revolved around me. Actually, I fear I may have consumed enough beer that the world would have been revolving anyway, but it was fabulous nevertheless. And my friend cracked his head open on this concrete spiral stairway when the centrifugal force sent him careering from the floor. How we laughed. Dicky Knee had his delicate sensibilities offended: > Have the band really been working on a track about having a poo? That's just revolting! I think it's nice to have some solids to go alongside 'Ease Your Feet Into The Wee'. Of course we have already had 'The Boy With The Arab Crap' and 'Dirty Dream Number Twos', but I'm not sure they count. Steve Kado (any relation to Ernie K Doe?) said: >what you're all so mad about >isn't _sitars_ per se its lame sitar playing. >...perhaps people shouldn't be so hasty to poop on >indian musical instruments in general tsk. Oooh! Tsk is it? It was the horrific use of sitars in rock or pop which I was talking about. It would take a piece of blithering idiocy of Morrissey-esque proportions (“All reggae is vile”) to take a position on a whole nation's or culture's musical forms. Although I'm no expert on Indian music (though I do like the odd bit of bhangra in my life, which is some of the way I guess) I wouldn't dream of pooping on all Indian musics. However, I wipe my arse on 'Tomorrow Never Knows', which leaves some nasty red lesions on some rather tender flesh. A nasty thought occurred to me this morning. You know how pet owners are supposed to grow to look like their pets? I fear I may be taking on many features of my favourite place in the world, i.e. the pub. I realised that I am stained with, and stinking of, old bad beer and stale cigarettes, my upholstery is looking distinctly worn, and there is a suspicious odour drifiting from the toilet area. I'm not sure this is a good thing. I think it was brought about by my exposure to the marvellous but slightly soiled 'In Southern Waters' by Ian Marchant which I very much enjoyed reading. Sensitive types beware, though - JD Salinger it is not. Looking forward to your contributions to the Looper profanathon. Any queries, please feel free to ask me. Play nasty, kids Tim ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tzuckerman at xxx.edu Tue Oct 5 00:03:59 1999 From: tzuckerman at xxx.edu (The Trainspotter) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:03:59 -0400 Subject: Sinister: re:show us your tits/ vying after a thespian from hull References: Message-ID: <37F9325B.B2E16B18@hamp.hampshire.edu> > > kerry et al, how it is that i always get mentioned in the same sentence with strippers? kerry i could have gotten second to last ex-boy's new girl to do it for you. thats what she does for a living anyway. or his old roommate as well. it would have been brilliant - making her feel all threateny and cryey but no evil/girlish way. just that she wont meet me or hang out with him and I cause she thinks that really we dated and he was cheating on me with her. i'm scared of getting sick of b&s, i know your all looking me with increadulous expressions on your faces - but its only because my flatmates both play tigermilk on repeat all day long. almost like eating your favourite sandwich everyday for lunch and then a year later when your friend surprises you with two sandwiches to play picnic on a saturday afternoon in the middle of the winter while you watch TVLand you feel all sorta sicky like you couldnt possibly even look at another peanutbutter and banana or glouchester with chives and sprouts. i tried breaking it up by lending them Camber Sands tapes and other miscellanous radio tapes but the next day its no use - although saturday i got one of them into divine comedy and momus so that might break it up a wee bit. (kerry): sorry i didn't call i stayed up real late thursday nite and woke up late friday and went a dancin and went to a friends birthday party and we got real drunk and took funny pictures and gibby took a crumpled club flyer and said your just a baby baby girl and covered my friends face with it while she was talking to me. but i talked to j.k.'s flatmate and he was nice - which means it must be a full moon or something. and this sorta friend but i havent known him long enough just moved in with another listers (and theoretically one of my best friends) friend (who doesnt get named cause she is just an ego ego girl this month) lance in noho and i'm gunna play with them soon too promise. my friend decided wearing my clothing would get him more dates - this week it was a belle and sebastian shirt - and it worked! another arguement for hiding good band from the evil ways of the mass culture - when was the last time you saw someone wearing erm, a brittney spears, or backstreet boys t-shirt get walked up to by a stranger and start a convo because they like the same bands? see?! oh and my little thespian from hull (honestly - i lived there with him before he moved to london to get more work) thinks i've quasi made up belle and seb songs so they apply to him. like i'll lend you 200 quid for a flight across the ocean... and other stuff that i'm too lazy and busy to write about. and just so he feels special today - happy yesterday'd birthday gibby. -t.e.r.i. http://come.to/teri "she had the moves, she had the speed, it went to her head" > > > > sweet sweet teri zuckerman called me the other night, and said she'd call > me again when she was in town friday afternoon, but i never heard from her. > did i miss her call? i don't know. so i got drunk instead. i've been > drinking more than ever. i think something's wrong with me. i don't even > really like being drunk. it annoys me. > anyway, i hope you're not all frowning at me now, because i realize this > post was really long, but i hope you liked the bit about the strippers. > then again, you probably didn't. so i'll shut up now. > > -kerry > "maybe if you find the time you'll make out with me, desperate me." > -halo benders, "will work for food" > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Tue Oct 5 01:51:45 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:51:45 EDT Subject: Sinister: A message from Lauren Tigerxdare Message-ID: Lauren's email has been acting a bit quirky as of late so she asked me to send this to list cause her CPU won't oblige. Here it is: hello my darlings, i am back from the dead, well sort of. i havent posted in awhile. i guess it's just been because i had to take some time out to think about some things and figure some things out, and during that time i havent really talked to anyone. i have been emailing back and forth with a couple of you sinister kids, and one in particular has really been a great help. and i thank her again...right now i just feel horrbile. i am very sick, and i just slept for three hours and when i woke up for some odd reason all i could think about was posting to sinister. these past couple days ive been absolutely out of it, i guess i should go to the doctor, but its so damn expensive when you dont have any insurance...today i acutally dragged myself out of bad for class. i left early because i was feeling worse as the day progressed, and so i got in my car and started to drive home. right away i knew something was wrong with my car, and as soon as i got out of the parking lot i realized i was screwed. the transmission apparently is bad, and i couldnt get the car to go above 30. it just kept rev-ing up and not going anywhere. i just barely made it home. i know it is going to cost alot of money that i dont have to fix it, which really sucks. the car is so old though and had 189,000 miles on it , i am probably going to have to just buy a totally new one, which sucks even more. now i cant afford to go to europe and i am ultra-depressed right now. thats all i have to say. xoxo, lauren. oh yeah and ida, one of my favorite bands is playing philly and it is 21+ which means i cant go. i hate the world right now. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Tue Oct 5 04:45:10 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (B.E. Hamilton) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:45:10 -0400 Subject: Sinister: post-it notes and hot chocolate Message-ID: <001701bf0ee4$0680cd20$44711198@wfu.edu> greeeeeeeeeetings fluffy observationalists of rainy days, yes, it did rain today, and it was somewhat depressing. well, i saw gybe! twice this weekend, yes, twice! they are absolute wonders live, and i would go recommend everyone to see them, but two things prevent this. 1)most of you already have because 2) the tour's over. oh well. i will say however, that over the course of two nights i absolutely fell in love with their violinist. she had that teddy bear look going on. my friend classified her as a 'dike' and said she probably hated the world or something to that effect. he then began to classify the indie scene as 'depressed and sad'. i then remarked that all the people i know whom listen to independent music primarily are some of the loveliest people around, period. back to the groovy violinist, well, she reminded me of Paddington Bear. anyone who remembers that little piece of heaven in the form of a children's book, kudos. i want my mom to read me bedtime stories again, i really do. is that so wrong? my list crush votes are forever stuck at two. better to be at zero. then at least you realize that your gimmick is a stinker. today i wrote a letter to pete townshend. it wasn't a geek fan-boy type letter--it was the sort of social reflection, 'you rock' sort of ditty. maybe he'll respond. perhaps the return envelope will have some dippity doo inside of it. oh wait, that's roger daltrey. i typed it up and everything, and in my box today was a package from lovely katrina containing two tee shirts plus badges! yay!! however, on the inset of one of the cardboard slabs was scribbled in pen the eloquent phrase, 'fuck off'. now this is the last thing i thought would be written on a somewhat b&s related slab of cardboard. personally i would have expected something like 'we hate isobel. signed, everyone'. that would have been acceptable. but the personal attack at me forced me to sit down and wonder to myself if i had invested too much of myself in a band that in the end, doesn't care what i think. it was harrowing. well i popped in IYFS and i'm feeling better. the world is a scary place. darling, read me a story. darling, help me sleep. love, blake xx the nerdy shy eyed pacifist ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials." - Jarvis Cocker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Tue Oct 5 05:04:55 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (B.E. Hamilton) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 00:04:55 -0400 Subject: Sinister: dikes and dykes Message-ID: <000701bf0ee6$c8a9c760$44711198@wfu.edu> a minor quib, i was not referring to the reference made by my friend towards the lovely violinist from gybe as a wooden structure made in holland. rather, the other thing. i'm an idiot, and going to bed blake xx the nerdy shy eyed pacifist ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials." - Jarvis Cocker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seaborne at xxx.nl Tue Oct 5 11:27:19 1999 From: seaborne at xxx.nl (Koen) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:27:19 +0200 Subject: Sinister: dikes and dykes Message-ID: <004601bf0f1c$34c3a080$a38d6dc2@seaborne> >a minor quib, >i was not referring to the reference made by my friend towards the lovely >violinist from gybe as a wooden structure made in holland. > Contrary to popular belief, Dutch dikes are not made of wood. If they were, Hans Brinker would have been much more hesitant to stick his finger into the crack, in case of splinters. (be quiet, you dirty minded bunch there in the back). Windmills are wooden structures that spring to mind when you think of Holland. Oh, thanks Belgian Koen, for telling the whole list that my name resembles the Portuguese for c**t. It's made my life a bit easier ;) Koen (the Dutch one) === Keep your Happy Traum Alive Listen to Daryll-Ann +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From banchorymerchandise.uk at xxx.net Tue Oct 5 11:38:27 1999 From: banchorymerchandise.uk at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:38:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: bits'n'bobs References: <199910041643.KAA23519@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: <00fe01bf0f1d$c2d6f9c0$2ba6fea9@pricelessoem> morning all, steady mike (or steady mike stand jones as someone else said, which made me giggle) quoth: > October. October, October, October. Oct meaning 'eight', Ober > meaning 'add another two'. Ah, isn't this is what it's all about ? and then this made me laugh and then sigh and think "oh, i miss the london sinister massissive" ... anyhow ... Adrian, "not always what he was cracked up to be" Evans spake forth: > i think Katrina should start a list-collection so that > we can buy out one of the less well off footy clubs in > Scotland. Rather than the somewhat dead Poetry Parrot > sketch, we could take it in turns, week in week out, > to manage the team. Bagsy Peter Withe up front. which reminded me that i decided afterall to barrack (is that an australian word?) for celtic ... must go online and find a team picture so i can figuree out which players i fancy ... thanks to everyone for their reasons why i should support thistle ... sorry for your wasted words ... managed to delete who wrote this, but youknowwhoyouare: > p.s. Apparantly one B+S (possibly the boy Geddes) will be D.Jing > at the Star And Garter pub in Manchester sometime this month. This is not an > unsubstantiated rumour. I spoke to one of the other D>J's who plays there > who knows whats going on. I hope anyway or have just made a twat out of > myself. it's actually bad belle richard colburn ... i have the date written down here somewhere ... hang on ... here we go ... it's actually to celebrate the club "smile" 's birthday on november 6th, which you may remember was the afterparty celebration venue @ the manchester gigs way back in 1997 ... how time flies. so there you go. list mummy said lots including most if not all of the following: > On to business. The first thing is that that nice man Stuart David has > finally got a publisher for his book "Nalda", extracts of which some of > you might have read on his Looper site at > http://www.treehouse.clara.net but which he didn't ever finish putting > up. and i remembered someone was wary that stuart had only got a publishing deal because of b&s? didn't stuart write this book previous to his b&s involvement? and didn't he also have a short story published in a collection of short stories before 'tigermilk' was released? not meaning to sound like sour grapes, but i think he's a writer as well as a musician and deserves to have both available in the public view irrespective of his success with the other. hmm, i don't think that quite made sense ... sorry. > http://www.thehungersite.com which i thought was an ace idea and needed reiterating. must away katrina +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From coool_air at xxx.com Tue Oct 5 12:32:16 1999 From: coool_air at xxx.com (Claire Timmins) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 04:32:16 PDT Subject: Sinister: tips in a g-string made my weekend Message-ID: <19991005113217.12513.qmail@hotmail.com> Howya!! Tis a long Tuesday aint it? Im going on holiday again, isnt that great. But, again, Im at a loss for somewhere to stay. This time its in Amsterdam. No no I dont want your floors, I just need a little advice on fine establishment so's that I dont end up in that big red part. After a fine weekend in london, imagine my amazement when I agree to go to amsterdam and find out that its the same weekend when two festivals are on there. fate is a bugger at times, but we like it really. Now to the music, do check out www.thebeatmuseum.demon.co.uk. This is a wee shop in glasgow that used to brighten up that mangy bit of great western road before the Western bar (seven day a week Karaoke folks!) by playing funky tunes all day - until the poshers across the road complained. Geez (as in jeez, not fannies) was it interrupting their enjoyment of listening to the lorries and buses trundle by?..hm. Anyway the man gave me an ace james Brown comp for 8 pounds yesterday cos it was kinda fuzzy. What a darlin'. To the man whose name means c***, do not worry this term was highly acceptable in the 14th century as a term for the fanny. In 1811 however it was a nasty name for a nasty thing. Sorry. Did you also know that the phrase Sweet Fanny adams derives from Sailors. In 1812, fanny adams was murdered, chopped up and thrown into the river. No they never used to eat her, but they did describe their rations of tinned mutton to be similar to Fanny adams. Therefore it became a term denoting nothing at all. Thus Sweet F.A. I may have told you all this before but i dont really care. cheers me dears, Claire** >From: "Katrina House" >Reply-To: "Katrina House" >To: >Subject: Sinister: bits'n'bobs >Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:38:27 +0100 > >morning all, > >steady mike (or steady mike stand jones as someone else said, which made me >giggle) quoth: > > > October. October, October, October. Oct meaning 'eight', Ober > > meaning 'add another two'. Ah, isn't this is what it's all about ? > >and then this made me laugh and then sigh and think "oh, i miss the london >sinister massissive" > > >... anyhow ... > >Adrian, "not always what he was cracked up to be" Evans spake forth: > > > i think Katrina should start a list-collection so that > > we can buy out one of the less well off footy clubs in > > Scotland. Rather than the somewhat dead Poetry Parrot > > sketch, we could take it in turns, week in week out, > > to manage the team. Bagsy Peter Withe up front. > >which reminded me that i decided afterall to barrack (is that an australian >word?) for celtic ... must go online and find a team picture so i can >figuree out which players i fancy ... thanks to everyone for their reasons >why i should support thistle ... sorry for your wasted words ... > >managed to delete who wrote this, but youknowwhoyouare: > > > p.s. Apparantly one B+S (possibly the boy Geddes) will be D.Jing > > at the Star And Garter pub in Manchester sometime this month. This is >not >an > > unsubstantiated rumour. I spoke to one of the other D>J's who plays >there > > who knows whats going on. I hope anyway or have just made a twat out of > > myself. > >it's actually bad belle richard colburn ... i have the date written down >here somewhere ... hang on ... here we go ... it's actually to celebrate >the >club "smile" 's birthday on november 6th, which you may remember was the >afterparty celebration venue @ the manchester gigs way back in 1997 ... how >time flies. > >so there you go. > >list mummy said lots including most if not all of the following: > > > On to business. The first thing is that that nice man Stuart David has > > finally got a publisher for his book "Nalda", extracts of which some of > > you might have read on his Looper site at > > http://www.treehouse.clara.net but which he didn't ever finish putting > > up. > >and i remembered someone was wary that stuart had only got a publishing >deal >because of b&s? didn't stuart write this book previous to his b&s >involvement? and didn't he also have a short story published in a >collection of short stories before 'tigermilk' was released? not meaning >to >sound like sour grapes, but i think he's a writer as well as a musician and >deserves to have both available in the public view irrespective of his >success with the other. hmm, i don't think that quite made sense ... >sorry. > > > http://www.thehungersite.com > >which i thought was an ace idea and needed reiterating. > >must away > >katrina > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Oct 5 12:45:20 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:45:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Not too shy to apply for jobs Message-ID: It is time to get a life in Sinister.And the first step to land onto real life and no dreams any longer and painting hearts around Richey's fantastic chins is to get a job,no doubt.So Erica is going all kitchen's sink drama into cantine-service and Tag ,very Dickensianly,has offeres to Chris to sweep his dwelling's chimneys. I have been given too much work to cope with!If anyone would come around to replace me at my 4 hrs of Fortran demos...Nikita D. was into formal logic,but does not help too much.Honey,were you in my position in a previous life before becoming Dr PS Mitchell?55 2nd years calling at you and some smug lecturer making me wave at them as if I was the hostess at Ricki Lake's program,only slightly slimmer. In fact,if I could choose,I would apply for the position as librarian ordering at Mummy Honey's files and books.Who posted not very long ago about nice and not nice assistants at his library,with square-framed glasses and so?The most flattering thing I was ever told was I looked as a sexy librarian,whatever it is,so here you are.In spite of my scattered brains,I smile pretty well,and be dead nice with unknown people who love books.I do. And I can work for free! Love Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Oct 5 15:02:20 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:02:20 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Acid Rock - Issue 567 Message-ID: <01bf0f3a$3e3bf5e0$2c80243e@itjfvkli> I once got a sitar record out of the library. It had four long tracks on it: Morning Raga, Elevenses Raga, Evening Raga and Can You Start Moving Outside Now Please Raga. It rocked. Poor Stuart David. First he gets slagged for smelling of wee, then he gets slagged for getting songs on B&S records, then he gets slagged for being in Looper and now he gets slagged for getting his book published. Sister Disco says ROCK ON STUART DAVID you big puff. I find the DJ scam more disturbing myself. Ladies! I have changed e-mail address. Please loosen your blouses and update your bookmarks. It's quite an easy address to remember - just imagine a cross between ELO and Olivia Newton John and the Spice Girls: pjmiller at wanadoo.es is the magic number. Gentlemen! Have you noticed the similarity between The Stooges' "Search and Destroy" and The Gentle Waves' hell for leather biker rock classic "Weathershow"? They are almost exactly the same, except one of them is by and for knuckle-dragging neanderthal slavering on-heat rockpigs on bad acid. Which one? You decide. Hooray for Stuart Murdoch! I've just donated a cup of rice to some hungry people. Veterans of the Brits-rigging debacle will know that you *can* donate more than one cup a day, just don't vote for another dinner! I've been watching a video by Cradle of Filth. They are BEYOND GOTH. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u01cjtc at xxx.uk Tue Oct 5 15:22:55 1999 From: u01cjtc at xxx.uk (Colin Campbell) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:22:55 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian daytime t.v. shocker! Message-ID: Was what i witnessed this lunchtime the first b&s appearance on a daytime topical news show? Oh no that was after the brits, but anyway the tigermilk billboard at ayr united football ground was on scotland today, being ran past by lots of scotland football chappies, on their way to trouncing bosnia, and progressing manfully in a most untwee way into the euro 2000 playoffs. It was red youknow, coz it like looked dead black'n'white in that photo. feel it cheesemonsters. colin. recovering +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.alder at xxx.uk Tue Oct 5 15:20:41 1999 From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:20:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Getting it off my chest Message-ID: <11020643E71FD311ACAA0008C7C563F301AB5363@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk> I'm having the crappiest, shittiest day ever. I hate work and I nearly cried (which I only do very rarely) and I've been told by one of the nice people to take 10 minutes and recover from what the nasty people have been doing. So I'm using you to calm myself down because I know you're all lovely and good listeners. Hope you don't mind. Last weekend I went to a stately home called Upton House and it had an amazing garden. I think I might have told some London people about it on Friday night (booze obscures memory - plus ca change) but I wanted to share it with all of you because it was the most wonderful place I've ever been to. The garden falls away down the side of a steep hill and there are high walls, wooded bits and topiary hedges everywhere, which means that wherever you are standing, there is always a part of the garden you can't see. The effect is that you turn a corner and suddenly discover another part of the garden you've not seen before - it seemed almost enchanted in the late afternoon autumnal sunshine with its butterflies and scent of lavender . I thought what a good place it would be for a game of hide-and-seek, and also that it would be perfect for hand-in-hand walking and secluded snogging. But what it made me think about most was that you never really know what's going to happen next in your life - one day you could be doing the same old things in the same old places, the next you could turn a corner and discover brand-new, brilliant things. I don't think I'm expressing this very well... I'm just a hopeless optimist and when the things in your life that are going rather well become obscured by the things that aren't, you need to have something to cheer you up, don't you? Sorry for the cod-philosophy and thank you for being my medicine. I'll try to be perky and amusing next time. Juicy Lucy x =================================================== This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Tue Oct 5 13:25:06 1999 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 05:25:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: bruinvis and timbuktoo Message-ID: <19991005122506.7662.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> hello there, comments on recent digests follow. not that i can read recent digests as my mail web software thing truncates messages about 1K in so i get the digest contents and the first three lines of the first missive before the --- truncated --- message. pah. but first: the big hairy cave has finished relocating to hammersmith. the room that was empty last week is now too full of things in cardboard boxes to move about in. oh um. just finished moving the boxes into the new room and was staring idly out of the kitchen window when a fox came and walked along the fence at the back of the house and curled up and sat there sunning itself for a good half an hour. in hammersmith. blimey. i also saw ANOTHER b&s fan on the district line tube through hammersmith on friday lunchtime, that's two in as many weeks. hammersmith surely is a hotbed for closet b&s fans. and no, i said nothing to him either. 'hello' if you're reading this. how's the paul auster? laurel and brandt were talking about not talking to people on trains. we don't do that here either. which always seems like a pity as trains usually have an interesting social mix. the one time i went to scotland i took a little time to go across the forth bridge in a train (which was probably a bad idea cos it's hard to see the forth bridge whilst actually ON the forth bridge but...) and i was quite shocked to hear strangers on the train talking to one another quite happily. buckfast has a lot to answer for. looper book signing: i wonder if i can get him to sign it 'this is pish'? he'll probably just tell me to fuck off. again. trousers: > Now, whatever happened to Watson and Begbie? Hmm > that sounds like a good title for a detective > series.... rod begbie is alive and well and occasionally posts to slashdot: news for nerds. pamelab: >and I said to myself, self, you should post to the >list that brought you and the hubby together in the >first place aah, i remember that first meeting, in the pub on the sunday of the manchester weekend, meeting pam for lunch only to find that the pub we'd chosen was closed and eating instead in the french place across the street, me, pam and my friend from university. i ordered a grilled cheese sandwich expecting cheddar filled triangles and it arriving as melting brie in a toasted baguette. later i had to leave, trains and stuff, leaving those two to their own devices. little did any of us know... >after a boozy night out sometimes I need to drop the >needle on the mat a couple of times before actually >finding the edge of the record. peel, during his 'sounds of the suburbs' series, went and visitied some people who make 7" singles from things like slices of wood, circular saw blades, sandpaper discs and biscuit (they looked quite nice, had proper labels and everything) and they said that they never have any trouble with needles, the needles being diamond tipped and all. >next week: we test-drive a porsche armed only with a >fourth generation tape copy of tigermilk! I'll let >you know how it sounds. pah! i did that tape. and it was straight from the vinyl. some people. ungrateful... 8) oh, and if E.A. Hotstepper doesn't like toronto (or indeed montreal) then she could always go somewhere friendly like los angeles, i'm sure she'd have a wonderful time there, there are some great clubs around, especially on thursday nights... (knowing smile... 8) andy ===== andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Tue Oct 5 16:58:51 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:58:51 -0400 (EWT) Subject: Sinister: Train etiquette Message-ID: I had to sit next o a large woman on the train today, who felt she needed to take up parts of both seats. Had she moved over a bit, even as large as she was, we both could have sat comfortably. I think it is this sort of rudeness that makes me want to talk to no one on the train. I think that when you have a train full of people, you should be nice enough to conserver space for others. I also don't understand why people are in such a rush to get off the train when you are getting off at the last stop. One day the woman I was sitting next to asked me to move so she could get off at the next stop, but everybody had to get off at that stop. Was her sitting by the train door really going to make much of a difference for her ETA at work? And I must say I am rather shocked that no one on the list has really said anything about American Beauty. I just saw it last night and was blown away. Kevin Spacey gives the performance of his career (and as brilliant as he has been in other films, that's a tough thing to do.) Take care all, Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Tue Oct 5 19:42:38 1999 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 11:42:38 PDT Subject: Sinister: I was born Ready... Message-ID: <19991005184239.55319.qmail@hotmail.com> This is my first post and so I'd like to introdruce myself. *in my best beauty pageant voice* My name is Laura Llew and I'm from North Carolinnnnaa. I simply adore trees, rainy days, people watching, literature, star gazing, music, roadtrips, lists, elbow touching and Belle and Sebastian. I discovered B&S from a friend. While listing what his 5 favorite albums were, he mentioned "If you're feeling sinister'. Since I had never heard of them and generally trust his taste, I picked up the cd. I fell in love with them and plunged head long into an obsession with them (which I usually do. I've always wished I was a minimalist but it's just not in my blood). I just recently got my grubby hands on their ep's and such and LOVE it. So if anyone else on this list has been thus deprived as I was, I will be more than willing to share. Because that's what kind of person I am.. Tee Hee Hee *lying through my twisted and gnarled teeth* Ok, ok. So we all know that this isn't my first post. But I realized that I was never did the hip first post introduction. Indulge me this one time. This weekend was my birthday and it was absolutely miserable. Plus, I spent the whole day listening to my mother worry about how her little girl is going to become an old maid. I'm 22 and still completely single. Obviously, there is some flaw I have that makes me undesirable. Obviously, this is her fault. Obviously. I could take out a personal ad and find someone to calm her mind. But knowing me, it'd end up reading "Bitter chic needs barely tolerable man with vulgar social graces, below average looks and inconsequentil means for occasional dates as a reminder to remain univolved." For my mother's sake, I won't. I was thinking (scary prospect I know). Are we a single parent list? I mean I just know of our list mummy, Honey, but I've never heard of a list daddy. I was too young to remember when it all happened. Did he run off on our mother for a new younger limp biskit list or some other trampy hoochie mamma? Is Honey depressed and lonely and I just have missed the signs of the red glassy eyes in the late afternoons when he rolls out of bed? Do we have to fear a new father coming and taming us, the unruly children. Or can we just blame the fact that we were raised in a single parent list? The Laura Llew Literary List is completed and up on the web. It still needs a bit of tweaking (not really. i just wanted to use that word. tweaking. *shivers). But the unveiling of it will be soon. I am on my fifth suggested book already *showing off and making you all chartreuse with envy*. This one was recommended by our very own Pursed Lips Boneboy. Its "Confederacy of Dunces" by Toole. I'm not that far into it but so far its made me chuckle more than once. Something that I need. So far, so good. I'm an INTJ. If you're curious as to what you are or what we're talking about go to http://keirsey.com/ it's about a 50 multiple choice question test thats pretty quick to take. I took the test in high school and then took it last night from this website. Guess my personality hasn't changed in 6 years. I didn't have one then and I don't have one now. Laura "Filling your Laura Llew needs since 1977" ***Laura Llew's List Member of the Week*** That member who I've never had any contact with but I think is just the tops.... Randomness Really.... anyway, hush hush... It Is James Gilmer...... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrea.ware at xxx.com Tue Oct 5 21:49:10 1999 From: andrea.ware at xxx.com (foxinthesnow) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 13:49:10 -0700 Subject: Sinister: I was born Ready... Message-ID: --- so i was reading the list a bit because its been so long since i have had the chance...and i was so happy to see the refrence to the myers/briggs personality tests....because i have just learned about them, and taken my first in my education class at school...i was also pleased to see that the type given was totally different than mine, i'm an ENFP, like most of my class mates are, which i suppose shouldn't come as much surprise since we're all art students--but don't get on my case for generalising, i don't want to be stepping on any list toes...but yeah, just a comment. now, about the spinster bit at twenty-two. i too, have reached that peachy age, and last year, while taking a break in iowa from a roadtrip, my grandmother, a sprite seventy two year old red headed lady, wearing tight calvins, mind you, lectured me on how i should wait for a long time before i get married. she even made me promise that i wouldn't marry for quite a long time after that...maybe this was due to the fact that she thought my boyfriend, who was present during all of this, didn't make her cut, but what is really odd about the whole thing is that just earlier that summer my cousin, who is now twenty-eight, recounted to me that when she was twenty-one, the same grandmother told her if she weren't married by the time she was twenty-three, that she's be a a spinster.... what is a girl to do? well good luck to you, and don't swallow any of the familial pressures of mate-dom. crum, crum. hey, is the other rondelle's fan still on the list? if so, maybe we could do some music swapping? i still haven't been able to get a copy of that last cd! so let me know. i hope everyone on the list eats a piece of chocolate cake with strawberries on top today, that is unless it doesn't suit your tastes... andrea get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ISawUfall at xxx.com Tue Oct 5 21:58:56 1999 From: ISawUfall at xxx.com (ISawUfall at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:58:56 EDT Subject: Sinister: anyone in NJ, PRINCETON??? NYC peeps! Message-ID: just curious if anyone's around.....any NYC meetups? any good places in NYC to dance to B&S, indie, britpop, etc...what nights? likes to dance, dave! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keythkeyth at xxx.net Wed Oct 6 03:10:28 1999 From: keythkeyth at xxx.net (keith mclachlan) Date: 5 Oct 99 19:10:28 PDT Subject: Sinister: no one will ever love you honestly Message-ID: <19991006021028.16040.qmail@www0u.netaddress.usa.net> i have seen american beauty and i had the exact opposite reaction to brandt's. i though everything about it was ugly, magnifying all of the most vile and base characteristics of modern life made me queasy, i don't relate to the characters on screen(i suppose that is the point of fiction eh?) and seeing people around me laugh uneasily made me feel miserable? i suppose i am sounding rather pedestrian here, all donna reed even but i didn't care about anyone in the movie, the climax had absolutely no effect on me and the malaise of the movie infected me for days. is this the movie's triumph? the fact that it drags you deep into its dire domain. i am still hoping for a revival of beauty as hope not as simple irony. for the elephant dung/virgin controversy, what is shocking to me is how cheap stunts still ellicit such reactions? public funding is censorship so to claim the threat of refusal of funds is censorship is all a bit redundant. keith 'lovers of the arctic circle' was beautiful, sad that i must cling to it because everything else i have seen this year has made me wilt. anyone have the new moose ep yet? i have only just sent my six dollars off to roy saltwater this evening. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Catspaw1 at xxx.com Wed Oct 6 05:21:42 1999 From: Catspaw1 at xxx.com (Catspaw1 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 00:21:42 EDT Subject: Sinister: Door open yet? Message-ID: <6278dcf1.252c2856@aol.com> Probationary period over? I promise not to be a nuisance, but another intro couldn't hurt, eh? I feel old looking at the list makeup, just edging out of my twenties. Wasted a decade, aside from some personal growth, a marriage and college, but I'm still not where I want to be, so I guess it doesn't mean much. Hazy dreamer and all that... I'm in the middle of the USA, what we call the "Heartland" here in the states, and things are flat but not that dull. I write...anything really, comic books at the moment...a book called Love in Tights for the nonce...back in school because the brain begins to rot, and stimuli was so desperately needed. And I discovered B&S in a record store the week IYFS was released. After wondering aloud about the sound (the Kinks covering Nick Drake? What? Eh?), the clerk shoved a copy in my hands, and I've never looked back... One of my goals is to spread the gospel to friends and family, and I've just done a mix for my brother-in-law (who just finished law school and is generally to be found drinking with me when I'm in town, listening to music into the wee hours). I hope the powers that be don't frown upon a B&S mix. Copyrights aside, the idea is to introduce the band in full, and lead him and my sis down the path with the arab strap.... The tunes on said disc: The State I Am In Expectations She's Losing It Stars of Track and Field Seeing Other People Me and the Major Like Dylan in the Movies The Fox in the Snow Get Me Away From Here... If You're Feeling Sinister Judy and the Dream of Horses Lazy Line Painter Jane It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career Sleep the Clock Around A Summer Wasting The Boy With the Arab Strap The Rollercoaster Ride Have I missed anything? Of course I have. That's the point. Just cueing up The Wicker Man (which stars a young Edward Woodward)...night all... B Clay +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com Wed Oct 6 10:02:12 1999 From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 02:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: an ode to..... (you'll have to read this mail to find out) Message-ID: <19991006090212.7303.rocketmail@web1401.mail.yahoo.com> pah. load of rubbish. 1)- Chris Geddes in pantene pro-v advert scare? My little brother even saw it and said "That looks like the gnome guy out of that band you like" because he'd seen him on tv after the brits shocker, and thought that he looked odd. Frolicking with beautiful women indeed. 2)- Has the amusing insult to be directed at George dickie, or just a general insult? 3)- message for erica - (adapted from the words of don mclean) "You see, everybody loves me,( babychris) What's the matter with you? Won't you please tell me what did I do to offend you?" :) :) :) :))))))) | guy with many chins She never replys to my mails.... she said I sounded like a right twat...... I think that's a pretty nasty, rude thing to say if you ask me. Maybe that's what fame and popularity did to her... :) 4)- is anyone going to looper in virgin in glasgow? stupid question, I know. :) I have to stop using the :). 5)- I see that honey said that people like me have been mailing far too much rubbish to the list (I slap my hand...ouch!) but is this really a forum for discusion of b&s anymore, or is it not more of a community of like minded people who get along and like to chat and share their problems. Or have we been abusing it? babychris CRYSTALBALLS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u02nim at xxx.uk Wed Oct 6 17:25:59 1999 From: u02nim at xxx.uk (Iain McGilp) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:25:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: A Single Plum Floating in Perfume, Served in a Man's Hat Message-ID: Hey kids, Its good to know that eveyone seems to have had an even more depressing summer than I have, judging by the torrent of thoroughly miserablist e-mails that I have accumulated. My holidays basically consisted of working non-stop for didley-squat cash in the Hamilton branch of a well known chain of British sport stores who shall remain nameless. The one useful nugget that I managed to derive from my time there is that Celtics' entire support have three teeth. Between the lot of them. I could pour my overburdened little heart out at this point about the horrors of being a wage slave, but I realise that this would be horribly offensive to those of you who actually do hold down full-time employment, unlike my layabout student self, so I'll keep quiet. Being such a media-literate soul, it seems that I am the only person who has picked up on Scotland on Sunday's (broadsheet newspaper, for the uninitiated) Most Eligible Bachelor shenanigans. Disturbingly enough at number 48 (a whole 26 places behind Rangers' uber-ned centre-half Scott " aye, ah used tae be a bit mental, ken" Wilson) was one Mick Cooke (Musician). He apparently sleeps with his trumpet you know. Unbeleivably they somehow managed to omit my good self from the list (I phoned instantly to correct them on what was clearly a typographic error (vindictive printer?)) (My English teacher once accused me of using too many brackets. The hell I do). Tragically enough, it is now lunchtime and I have still not sobered up from last night's titanic Scotland vs. Bosnia post-match celebrations (in fact I may well be sick over my computer. Who's to say.). We're talking a piss-up of Charlie Sheen-esque proportions. (Till the next time) (Iain McG.) ---------------------- Iain McGilp u02nim at abdn.ac.uk "How would you care to Pay sir?" "Chib Express"- Unknown ned, Crimestoppers, 1991 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Wed Oct 6 13:58:32 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:58:32 -0400 (EWT) Subject: Sinister: Remembering the first time... Message-ID: One time I was sitting out on the porch of my mom's house and was shucking corn or something strange that I usually would not be doing and listening to Belle and Sebastian. i wasn't a big fan at the time, and all I owned was Sinister, which I had bought on a lark because Beth Arzy liked them and if they were good enough for the girl from Aberdeen (the band, not the city) they were good enough for me. Well the title track came on and I really wasn't paying much attention to the recording, but my mom walked out just as stuart sings "she was into s & m and bible studies, not everyone's cup of tea she would admit to me" and she got all prudish and she gave me a "tsk, tsk what is that garbage you are listening to" sort of response. I don't listen to Belle and Sebastian around my mom anymore. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.cullen at xxx.com Wed Oct 6 14:12:42 1999 From: p.cullen at xxx.com (Paula Cullen) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:12:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: whatever i said, whatever i did, i didn't mean it... Message-ID: <01BF1004.DBF2CFA0.p.cullen@music-control.com> fancy seeing you lot here....... i decided to resubsribe as you can see. i also decided not to learn how to spell "resubscribe", as you can also see. even though i've only been gone a month or so, i was mighty confused reading all yer messages. thank god for claire timmins, however, dragging things down to base level (as per usual) and waxing lyrical about genitals..... now theres something we can all relate to, eh? not much has been happening 'round my way since i left you. a big "aiight?" to all the kidz i met in london, and um, cheers or something, to the people who expressed considerable surprise at the fact that i *was* in fact female, and not a portly, bearded Angryman. sheesh, if i had a pound for every time i've heard that........ anyway, just saying hi an' that. i'll be in touch. paula cullen booze explosion booooze!!!! yeeeaaahh!!! "getting beer poured over your head isn't necessarily a bad thing. it's cold, it's good for your hair, and it makes you smell like a champ." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Oct 6 14:16:28 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:16:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Throw your hands in the motherf****n' air Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2297F269@SERVER1> So, after a year and a half I finally figure out what Andy Dean's email address means. Doh...certain listees will be able to vouch for my astonishing lack of lateral thinking ability (no, Nick, I didn't say "cock"), but that does take the biscuit. Next week, Mark finds the secret formula for deciphering Steady Mike's moniker... My brother casually dropped into conversation the other day that he won the jackpot on a fruit machine at the casino in Venice. Jammy bugger! He chickened out of roulette, though ("lucky man", as Ally Cook is no doubt muttering under his breath), which seems a pity, as he'd have been guaranteed to have starlets draped all over him at the table. 247,000 lire he won. Still, if he fails medical school, as it seems he might at the moment, he'll need to get in a few more big money prizes... Went to the dogs on Friday night. The best bit was when me and Miss Vicky's horses (as I called them all night) came in together at the finish - a dead heat! So we both won cash. We didn't do too badly on the betting side, either - well, better than the law of averages, which is all you can really hope for. It was pretty smart, actually - possible location for future Sinister shindigs, perhaps? Though playing fey songs on the guitar surrounded by paunchy townies and their barrel-shaped, slightly soiled wives (*vast cultural stereotype ahoy, but it's largely true, honest*) may not be a good move. On a lighter, or at least more gravity-defying note, I came across the first pair of fake breasts I can remembering seeing (I don't mean Gazza-esque yabos, but silicon-enhanced). Don't they look funny! Silly cow. Does patiently waiting for new B&S material to be released make you apathetic or increasingly, ravenously excited? I have to say it's the former for me. But then I don't really like music any more. Except for Seymour Stein :-) Mark xxx p.s. today I have mostly been drinking a Gingko Biloba and Kola Nut drink from the Japanese Canteen. Anyone have any idea what it's supposed to be doing to me? ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 0171 224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Wed Oct 6 16:30:33 1999 From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE DICKIE) Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 08:30:33 PDT Subject: Sinister: READ ME AND DELETE ME Message-ID: <19991006153034.66187.qmail@hotmail.com> YER HELLO AGAIN ETC I'M JUST RESPONDING TO STEVE C REALLY WHO SAID I bought Gram Parson's two solo records the other day and I am just simply amazed. YER I LOVE GP 2 MY FAV GP SONG IS STREETS OF BALTIMORE AN INTERESTING FACT IS THAT Y' KNOW ON DA GREVIOUS ANGEL LP THERE IS THAT MEDLEY LIVE FROM NORTHEN QUEBEC WELL IT IS NOT LIVE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN BUT THE GIG NEVER WENT AHEAD SO GP GOT PEOPLE TO MAKE CROWD SOUNDS TO FOOL US IF YOU READ THE SLEEVE INSIDE IT CALLS IT BACKGROUND BLAH-BLAH STEVE C ALSO TALKS OF MARIO CART I AM A MASTER AT THAT GAME I HOPE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SNES VERSION AS WE ALL KNOW THAT IS THE BEST *WE CAN CHANGE YOUR LIFE WITHOUT CHANGING YOUR BATHROOM* - THIS IS A QUOTE FROM MY FAV ADVERT AT THE MO IF YOU ARE AS SAD AS ME YOU WILL KNOW WHICH ADVERT I HOPE NOBODY KNOWS 'CAUSE YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE THIS SAD OHHHHH NO LOVE AND A GUN ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Wed Oct 6 17:36:18 1999 From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (Linda Kerr) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:36:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Rejected by rodents In-Reply-To: <19991004222648.8848.rocketmail@web1005.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Tim Hopkins said.. > I recently had a > fine time strutting my sadly non-proverbial stuff on > a revolving dance floor in a club on a boat in sunny > Newcastle Upon Tyne. A big boat, mind. I'm sure a > correspondent with a greater knowledge than mine of > stottie cakes and Lambton worms will tell you the name > of the place. I do know that this place is called the Tuxedo Royale, an excellent name, and it is a fine sight, although unlike popkins hopkins I never ventured on. I would have given lots of money to see Tim groovin' tho. Short and sweet. Linda xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Elizabeth.Kurtis at xxx.com Wed Oct 6 18:37:38 1999 From: Elizabeth.Kurtis at xxx.com (Kurtis, Elizabeth) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:37:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Popstars, popstars Message-ID: <262810611403D211A8FF00A0C94CAF3B024DE4B3@QUAY-STREET1> Hello list, Anything to escape the torment that is Ricki Lake! My co-workers insist on watching it even though they complain the whole time. Then comes along Pet Rescue and I end up crying on the bus ride home. I'm tempted to check out that Smile night where Richard will be DJ'ing, even though it's an act of treason of sorts...it's no longer the same people running it as when the B&S aftershow party was you see. Any idea what sorts of records he'll play? Speaking of Richard, I think Pumpkinny failed to mention that we saw him posing as a member of Snow Patrol on Mark and Lardie's Pop Quiz the other week. The average indie kid might well have been fooled but not us! It's shocking really. Next thing you know we'll be having Aggi Pastel substituting for Isobel. Which isn't such a bad thing come to think of it. Oh god, there's a fox with one of those lampshade things on his neck on Pet Rescue...and a muzzle. Genevieve, there's an image for your next dream involving Stuart! love, elisabeth Casting, Manchester x 2129 ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Wed Oct 6 18:11:27 1999 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MS1996) Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 18:11:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: This mail is a torrent of wee. Read it if you must. Message-ID: <37FB82BF.A2AC31A4@cs.strath.ac.uk> Hello gorgeous ones. What is it with Sinister lookie-likies on buses? This morning the spitting image of Sam Norman got on, and on Friday night there was a bloke who looked like Joss Moorkens. Unfortunately it was only after I'd felt his arse and got a smack in the gob for me troubles that I discovered it was in fact only a very angry Scottish bloke. Luckily I've got a good supply of soup in the house at the mo. I also had a dream with the Booze Explosion in it, but can't remember anything about it other than I thought she was someone else for ages, then realised she was prettier than the person I thought she was, and had an Irish accent. Then I woke up. Not very interesting, I know. I met the most honest tramp in the world the other day. He came up to me and said "Could ye spare any change? It's no fur a cup a tea, it's fur a can a beer. Ah don't like tae lie, ye see " However I didn't think encouraging his alcoholism would be a prudent move, so I lied and said I only had a tenner. And he said he was very sorry to bother me, and went away. I'd have asked for the tenner. Great sunset the other night. One of those ones that turns the clouds orange on the bottom, then pink. I watched it from the bus and smiled a lot. Tim "The Horse and Arse" Hopkins: > A nasty thought occurred to me this morning. You know > how pet owners are supposed to grow to look like their > pets? I fear I may be taking on many features of my > favourite place in the world, i.e. the pub. I realised > that I am stained with, and stinking of, old bad beer > and stale cigarettes, my upholstery is looking > distinctly worn, and there is a suspicious odour > drifiting from the toilet area. I'd say he's more of an upmarket wine bar. Have you seen the prices he charges for a swift one? The service is terrible as well. God, Scotland were pish last night. "I've never seen such a display of shiteness in all my life!", as drunken bum and part time guitarist Alun Woodward said at Bowlie. However due to the most dodgy refereeing decision this side of the last Holyfield - Lewis fight, we are in the playoffs, where we will no doubt be gubbed by England. Snow Patrol were entertaining as ever on Friday night, even if no-one else likes them except me. The gist of their set was: Gary Patrol: "Cheer the fuck up, you miserable Scottish bastards! Start dancing, abuse me, abuse my body like I abuse yours!" Crowd: "Your maw's got baws, your maw's got baws!" GP: "Cunts, cunts, whores, whores!" Crowd: "You fucking Irish bastards, you're shite!" GP: "You really are a shower of shite, aren't you?" [takes off trousers and shows arse] Lovely stuff. Actually the best bit was when the lead singer from Senna ran on and fell over the stage, then stole the microphone. But you had to be there I guess. Oh, Elizabeth just said: > Speaking of Richard, I think Pumpkinny failed to mention that we saw him > posing as a member of Snow Patrol on Mark and Lardie's Pop Quiz the other > week. The average indie kid might well have been fooled but not us! Well he is sort of, if you can call playing the shakers and a little bit of keyboard being a member of the band. The DJ played REM's cover of the Clique's 'Superman' the other night, which made me happy. All the best bands have names begin with Cl you know. The Clique, The Clash, The Clientele, Club 8, The Clai...oh, there goes that theory. Is there a band called The Clangers, and if not, why not? There used to be a band called The Clitoris, but their records are notoriously hard to find. Somebody kill me before I write a book. Alasdair xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jmoorkens at xxx.ie Wed Oct 6 19:08:22 1999 From: jmoorkens at xxx.ie (Joss Moorkens) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 19:08:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: small willy style Message-ID: Aiight, homies. In the style of Dr Pants: BELLE AND SEBASTIAN Don't think I've ever mentioned them much before, but Robin Stout's talk of TV's obsession with sex and violence made me think. I reckon part of what I like about B&S is the... umm... innocence of the songs. It feels like some respite from the world of sex and violence flung at us from most other forms of media. I mean.... I imagine Struan's idea of 'a dirty weekend' in Seeing Other People involves going rock climbing and getting your cuffs a little muddy. I can see how this little world could be a little cloying for some, like Mr Hefner, but maybe he just isn't as naive as me. Of course, I do swear like a navvy, but hey... I'm a victim too. Can anyone tell me what a navvy is? The latest outlet for my swearing is: THE ALL NEW TERRY AND JUNE SHOW I've decided to cash in on the fact that alternative comedy means cussing a lot by writing an updated version of Terry and June for Channel 4 or another miscellaneous fringe channel. Current episodes in the pipeline are Terry Suffers From Tourette's Syndrome, June's Herpes, Terry's Warts and June Comes Out. The last one features a top notch lesbian lovefest as the show's climax. So to speak. I feel a winner coming on.... June Whitfield hasn't been returning my calls, but Terry came on board after I agreed to pay him a tenner and a pack of fags per episode. THE POETRY PARROT As you will have gleaned by now, I am not the most literate gentleman in our illustrious clan. Therefore, I accepted the help of one Amanda Bergman in providing you with your parroty poem. Props to Genevieve's washing line for sending the fellow my way: Destroying Beauty a rose red sunlight: I take it apart in the garage like a puzzle: the petals are as greasy as old bacon and fall like the maidens of the world backs to floor and I look up at the old calendar hung from a nail and touch my wrinkled face and smile because the secret is beyond me. That was written by the late, alcoholic and antisocial Mr Charles Bukowski. On which subject, may I quote Megan's Sinister Manifesto: "proclaiming joss as the mighty king of the party to which there is no end." Ooo. I've never been called mighty before. Unfortunately, the party I dragged some sinisters to recently was far from mighty, so they might just disagree with you there, Megan. Charmed, though. Lucky charms to Birthday Tim (your Zappa LP is in the post, hippyboy), moving EA & John and Emma WarranderJohn. COWS Throw some cows for me. http://www.mediafarm.no/forsoksgard/kukaster.asp love yerpointlessunclejoss xx PS. I now command the parrot to poo upon.... Ms Giita. Yes yes, I know.... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Wed Oct 6 22:25:51 1999 From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE DICKIE) Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 14:25:51 PDT Subject: Sinister: TO ALL THOSE WITHOUT MOBILE PHONES Message-ID: <19991006212552.97929.qmail@hotmail.com> HELLO LOVERS AND NON-LOVERS AND OTHERS AND STEVE C YER I DON'T HAVE THE GP TRIBUTE THOUGHT ABOUT IT MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM FAV MARIO CART PLAYER PROB TOAD BUT THE QUESTION IS TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HARD OH AND BABYCHRIS but is this really a forum for discusion of b&s anymore, or is it not more of a community of like minded people who get along and like to chat and share their problems. Or have we been abusing it? THE LIST IS ABOUT PEOPLE PEOPLE CAN NOT TALK 24/7 B&S AND AS THERE IS LITTLE NEWS OF B&S AT THE MO OUR MINDS WILL FLOW THIS IS WHY COMMUNISM DID NOT WORK CAN YOU HAVE A COMMUNISM WITH FREE MINDS I HOPE SO *I'M HIGH IN THOUGHT LOW IN LIFE* LOVE AND GIVING A CAT DOG FOOD TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS 'CAUSE YOUR SOOOO BORED ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Wed Oct 6 23:00:40 1999 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 15:00:40 PDT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19991006220040.59949.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello all: DOODLe Today I drew a picture of a bird. I was slightly surprised how it came out. I drew it on a yellow postit with a blue ball pen, and it's kinda cheerfully inspecting a phone number for a word. It actually looks like a bird. As i said, I am surprised. LUNCH was bad. bad lunch=bad day. A NICE THINGAMABOB I would like to have nice thingamabob underneath my name on my emails. a picture of tigger, an eloquent "Fuck!" from such characters as that Jarvis one, but I really can't think of a thing. *thinks* nope,not a thing. when it's gray out I lose liveliness. all I want is a hot chocolate and some appropriate music. maybe something with strings? and sometimes all I want to do is lie in bed with the lights on at night and sort of think about things. anyway, it's a bit like mix tapes. what comes next? (after a signature) it's an aesthetic thing. or it could be, anyway. MOO, JOSS, MOO I like Joss. I like to throw cows. it reminds me of the beautiful piano catapult on Northern Exposure. STUART DAVID I watched tv with him in a dream. I read chapter one of his book in a non-dream, and liked it. a bit "watermelon sugar"-esque in the simplicity of his words. i think that trying to stay innocent in these cynical times keeps you an outsider, and the book seems to be about that. It makes me want to curse at tim. do we get double points for the "innocent curse"? whatever that might be. cyn ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Wed Oct 6 23:11:44 1999 From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: All wrapped up... Message-ID: <19991006221144.1778.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Hello you lot, Death and Smiths and drinking and appearances. Sometimes I am overwhelmed with all the topics, but isn't this life? I would rather be overwhelmed and/or confused than bored - and boring this list is not. I read it all and I am happy. Well, I found and bought Belle & Sebastian live at the bowlie bbc cd. I think I can hear some of you yelling and whooping it up. Ah. This cd makes my heart flutter like I've got a crush on someone. Occasionally, it fools me into thinking I really do have a tangible and here crush, but I don't. Maybe it's just Stuart's voice, the way he says, "(flaming) lips". I haven't yet seen American Beauty or anything else "mainstream" because the Vancouver Film Festival has been going on and, being the poor/cheap bastard I am, I volunteered (free movies!). By Sunday I will have seen 15 films in about 2 weeks. Yow. Only price to pay was that of having to deal with self-important film-school types. Anyway. I saw "Get Real", a British film about a 16 year old boy who is gay and wants to fall in love and be loved, like all teenagers (and everyone?). That's an over-simplification of the plot, but I don't want to give anything away. This film is so good and sweet and smart. Makes me want to be in super-love. Everyone who is sinister should go and see it. I also saw "The War Zone". Bleak. I'm not quite sure what I think of it. A lot of rain and wind. A messed up family. Made me feel like something terrible had just happened in my family and I'd just gone and sat in my room in the middle of winter for days on end, blocking thoughts and stagnating. I don't know whether this is good or bad, just that it is something that happens in life. Of course, the film did not last for days on end, but for only about 2 hours. The Netherlands' "One Man and His Dog" was good (though no Arling and Cameron in the soundtrack). As was Canada's "4 Days". And lots of others. So many movies. It puts me into a bit of a state, very visually oriented and always thinking that I am being entertained or merely an observer rather than actually *in* my life. Levels of reality. I did the Keirsey test. I am labeled as an INFP. Pretty bang on. The descriptions of personalities are quite good. I never want to fall for believing it all though, like I wouldn't want to accept the facts of my fate if they became known to me. On that strange note, infp (in nothing for parentheses) yours, Robyn P.S. Thank you Laura for putting your lit list up on the web. My film-strained eyes await its launch. P.S.x2 I don't know why I'm speaking in such a weird tone today. Maybe it is because my hair is extra messy - must be the rain. My hairdresser (sorry, "stylist") calls it "a controlled mess", but today I forgot the control part. ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From durkw at xxx.com Thu Oct 7 01:58:29 1999 From: durkw at xxx.com (Derek Wuenschirs) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 01:58:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hi. Message-ID: <001f01bf105f$1542cc60$b07838d4@cs479060a> dearest sinister listees, Teri said I shouldn't be scared to introduce myself.. so.. here I go: In any case.. I'm Derek, a transplanted Torontonian sinister listee, now living in the thriving metropolis that is London... Anyone care to play with a crazy canadian who has an all-too-unhealthy fascination with b&s? please feel free to drop me a line. Hello to Vince R., whose number I've somehow misplaced, please e-mail me.. Hi to Debbie and any other Torontonian listees... I'm living in Shepherd's Bush, it's nice. that's my story, I hope you like it. sweet Christ, if this isn't the most fantastic city on earth... not really sure what else to write, besides the fact that I have no idea what to do in this city for fun.. oh, and this is me: http://members.home.net/durkw (it hasn't been updated since the day I left Toronto) luff, derek --- [derek wuenschirs] [durkw at home.com] [london, uk] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Alexandre.Tobin at xxx.nl Thu Oct 7 08:45:20 1999 From: Alexandre.Tobin at xxx.nl (Alexandre Tobin) Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 09:45:20 +0200 Subject: Sinister: crossing border (part 2) Message-ID: <19991007074059453.AAA433@www-server.ucu.uu.nl@[131.211.105.90]> Good Morning. Please forgive me if I've already asked this, but is anyone from the list going to the Crossing Border festival in the Hague (NL) today, tomorrow, or on Saturday? Please get in touch with me, and we could have a mini Sinister meet-up... Thanks! Alex win free copies of Stuart David's 'Nalda Said' at http://www.postmodern.co.uk -++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++- -+++ alex tobin -+++ postbus 81-353 -+++ 3508 bh utrecht -+++ the netherlands -+++ -+++ phone +31.6.29208560 -+++ e-mail alex at pulped.co.uk -+++ website http://www.pulped.co.uk -+++ website http://www.postmodern.co.uk -+++ website http://www.popjourno.com -++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Elizabeth.Kurtis at xxx.com Thu Oct 7 10:42:15 1999 From: Elizabeth.Kurtis at xxx.com (Kurtis, Elizabeth) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:42:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: RE: richard/snow patrol Message-ID: <262810611403D211A8FF00A0C94CAF3B024DE4B4@QUAY-STREET1> Alasdair said: >Oh, Elizabeth just said: > >> Speaking of Richard, I think Pumpkinny failed to mention that we saw > >>him posing as a member of Snow Patrol on Mark and Lardie's Pop Quiz > >>the other week. The average indie kid might well have been fooled but > not >>us! > > Well he is sort of, if you can call playing the shakers and a little bit > of keyboard being a member of the band. > Ah yes, I forgot to add that he had a name card and it was definitely did not say Richard on it. elisabeth xx p.s. Anyone else horrified and yet strangely fascinated by that Village People-esque Ambrosia custard and oats dessert advert? There hasn't been one like it since Kelly's 'what eeees thiss remaarkable antii-persspirant?' ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Oct 7 12:26:49 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:26:49 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Spot the Acid Casualty Message-ID: <01bf10b6$d9e4b540$LocalHost@itjfvkli> I've made up a great new game called "Spot the Acid Casualty". All you have to do is go to the Sinister photos page and spot the acid casualty... The other night I watched a great film, "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Next", which I'd seen before, yonks ago. In the meantime someone had filled it up with really heavy shit and I ended up feeling like I'd had a meal full of lead. And it was well past my bedtime. It reminded me a lot of the list actually, especially when the boat starts going round in circles. For example, we've had the discussion about what the list's for and what it isn't for lots of times, and it usually ends up with a call for "balance", which means shut the fuck up. No it doesn't, I'm only pulling your leg. It means whatever you think it means, man. When I were a lad, and e-mail was the exclusive preserve of high-ranking soldiers, we had to find someone daft enough to listen to us if we wanted to whine on about not having a girlfriend or really fancying someone and not daring to speak to them because they showed signs of social competence and looked likely to want to go out with someone with a bit more gumption. It seems a shame that this tradition is being lost, pushed aside by rampant modern technology. Tinkersticks fans, did you shell out in the region of 20 quid to see them? They're coming here, but it strikes me as a bit bloody steep. Also a tad pricey is The Sugar Hill Records Story or is it Sugarhill? It features someone called Waterbed Kev. Is there something we don't know, DJ FatSlug? Eh? Thailand is the world's largest exporter of frozen prawns. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Tigerxdare at xxx.com Thu Oct 7 15:54:42 1999 From: Tigerxdare at xxx.com (Tigerxdare at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:54:42 EDT Subject: Sinister: cheetos will be the death of me Message-ID: <19f9c023.252e0e32@aol.com> well im hoping that this email will work but for some reason when i try to post to sinister lately it doesnt, so i am just going to keep my fingers crossed. i am at home today and have left the house once since monday, that is sort of sad. all i want is to go get some coffee, rent a movie and get takeout chinese, but without a car i am confined to eating kraft macaroni and cheese and the mini bags of cheetos i found. ugh cheese. prove that you can have too much of a good thing. its 11 am and there and absolutely no good talk shows on, now i have to find a way to keep myself entertained until noon. well there is that paper i could write for english. nah...i am feeling better today than i have felt the rest of the week, hopefully i will be completely non-sick by monday! woohoo! alright thats it. xoxo, lauren +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peter.ramsdale at xxx.com Thu Oct 7 15:55:56 1999 From: peter.ramsdale at xxx.com (Pete Ramsdale) Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 15:55:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Spot the Acid Casualty References: <01bf10b6$d9e4b540$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: <37FCB47C.181DAC81@wdr.com> OK, so I guess you'll all know what the link is between addled acid-heads and One Flew Over The Cuckoo's nest, but with so much talk of literary gubbins on the list at the minute, and with the eminent surfacing of L.L.L.L. (Laura Llew's Literary List), I thought I'd stick my heavily unwanted oar in. The author of One Flew etc., etc., Ken Kesey, was a pivotal point in the rise of acid in the sixties (Hopkins, shut yer eyes, man. This is about hippies). Along with his group of Merry Pranksters, they formed the part of the acid movement that took Leary's educational drugs study ethic and turned it completely on it's head. These people existed to get completely corked off their respective gourds and be as up-front and loud about it as they could. They eventually formed what would go on as a profit-making venture way after the prankster movement started to dissolve; Acid Tests. Large gatherings of people who turned up at certain locations and got utterly f***ed on L.S.D. whilst listening to the Grateful Dead and watching trippy light shows. In short, it was a bit like my house on a Saturday night.* Which brings me to my literary point, and yes, if you were starting to wonder, I have got one. If you are at all interested in the above, (Ken Kesey and the pranksters, that is, not my house on a saturday night), then I would recommend that you buy and read "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test" by Tom Wolfe. It's a quite riveting, often enlightening read about Kesey and the Pranksters and the feelings and experiences they went through. It's also written like Wolfe himself was on acid when he authored it - styles therein have been nicked more than once, most notably by Irvine Welsh. Anyway, onto matters bee and essy. Hurrah. I left the house this morning whistling Expectations in a manner that, well, frankly only I can, and noticed that there was a huge bird sat on the chimney of a house across the road that seemed to be cawing roughly in time with my disastrous whistles. Anyway, in a bid to test the theory that our feathered friends are partial to a bit of Belle and Sebastian now and again, I stopped whistling. I am nigh on delerious to report that it stopped as well. When I started again, so did the bird. After shitting myself rigid for a couple of minutes thinking that this was the Poetry Parrot, and I would have to recite the entirety of "Macavity the Mystery Cat" to the list, I realised that parrots are brightly coloured and this 'ere bird was black. All over. I reckon it was a crow. Well, either that or the Pottery Pterodactyl. Anyway, I think I have proved conclusively that either: a) Birds love B&S, or b) my whistling sounds like the mating call of your common-or-garden crow. Unfortunately, I know which my money is on. To finish up, Claire said: > To the man whose name means c***, do not worry this term was highly > acceptable in the 14th century as a term for the fanny. In 1811 however it > was a nasty name for a nasty thing. Sorry. On this side of the pond, it still is a highly acceptable term for the fanny. Or it is round my neck of the woods, anyhow. Hasta la fister, lol p xx. *This is a lie. 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Message-ID: well, chaps, i'm here now. and it's not nice at all. well, that's a fib, the people are lovely, and they're all really friendly and kind and fun to be with, and they cook me supper, but... the work is an absolute bastard. ok, i'm reading english, so i'd expect a bit of english work, but TWO THOUSAND WORDS OF A PHILOSOPHICAL ESSAY BY PROUST to translate into english... now that seems a bit fierce. anyway, i'm back on sinister, so i should be getting fun stuff from you to cheer up my days. god, it's such hard work here... maybe i should have gone to, i dunno, croydon college to read kite flying and makeup management. anyway, i haven't really got much else to say. people at cambridge must drink shitloads - i was boogying on down at the 70s/80s night last night, and i was called 'the man' several times. and ANYONE who has ever seen me dance knows that i'm very much not the man. in fact, i'm about as much 'the man' as isobel is. wasn't there all that discussion on the list a while ago about how 'the shit' means not shit in the states? so maybe all the students here are american, and so that's why... fuck, this doesn't make any sense, and i need to read dryden's essays... whatever anyone tells you, english students ARE NOT slackers - it's still freshers week, and we're all dying of exhaustion... anyway, enough of all this bullshit. the person i care about most on the list has already had to suffer it once today... i'm off. hopefully the work'll quieten down in a bit, and then i'll be able to be apposite and amusing again, love to all (and especially to the girl whose e-mail address i've left in my room (a way away), but i've been thinking of you not stop since we talked, and i haven't been able to work...) Marcus XXX +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_gibber at xxx.com Thu Oct 7 17:50:03 1999 From: the_gibber at xxx.com (Ian McKinney) Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 17:50:03 BST Subject: Sinister: bright copper kettles, warm woolen mittens Message-ID: <19991007165003.40601.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi folks, I haven't posted in a while being so busy settling back into college life and all but, er.. , I can't think how to end this sentence. urngh. Anyhoo, I must share with you all the absolute sense of frenzied joy I experienced last saturday night. I went to see ASIAN DUB FOUNDATION (they deserve capitals) and it was quite possibly the best show I've ever seen. I know that their jungle-thrash mayhem is probably the furthest you could possibly get from B&S, but it nevertheless has a unique appeal. Once again I bumped into list-lurker Tim McGregor, but was too smashed to have a proper conversation. My companion Barbara sadly got a bit carried away on the gin, went completely berserk and was nearly ejected from the venue for pulling over one of the monitors and knocking people over. For the record, I don't condone that manner of behaviour in any way, and I took it upon myself to administer a stern talking-to the following day. I was delighted last week when my Isobel With Fox t-shirt and b&s badges arrived. I still haven't decided where to attach the badges. To the lapel of my leather jacket? To my satchel? My eyelids? My nipples? Anyway I'm all excited cause I'm going to wear the t-shirt out tonight for the first time. I will act as a magnet for all the b&s fans in the place. We will gravitate in a dark corner and plot conspiracies. Finally, why don't more of you use the sinister irc channel? It's tremendous fun when there's a good crowd in, but usually there's only 2 or 3 people there. I drop in most days, there is a small contingent of regulars but I say the more the merrier. That is all. Until next time, take care of yourselves, and each other. Yours etc., Ian (aka gib) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Thu Oct 7 18:34:54 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Graham MacArthur) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 18:34:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: All the bright young things are talking Message-ID: hello peeps, babychris said: > rude thing to say if you ask me. Maybe that's what > fame and popularity did to her... :) Well, I have to say chris, it's getting beyond a joke these days. I went out to buy this week's TV Quick last night and there was a gaggle of cardi-wearing indie boys shuffling around on my doorstep. They didn't say hello or anything, just looked at their feet, and made small muttering noises under their breath. I was spying on them from my window a few minutes before - they were opening their flasks of weak lemon drink, but kept getting their specs steamed up which gets them all flustered. Last night I was woken up by the sound of cats having sex in my back garden (again) so I slipped on my fluffy mules and tottered over to the window to have a look - there was a boy standing on the patio with soot all over his face. He cried "maam, maam, I've swept your chimmney, now could I request the honour of a kiss?". I shouted "Not on your nelly, you dirty ned!" and he ran off into the night, his ragged clothes flying about his bare feet. In the morning I found a card on my doorstep. It said 'Chris Junior sweeping services' in a smokey smudged scrawl. I'm taking the mickey. You knew that, didn't you? I'm now getting a job in a place called Barney's grill. Barney owns the joint, though I havent had the honour of meeting him yet. Greasy Caff tales to follow! No waitrose brown padded guillets for me, oh no, *I* get to wear a little red sailor (as in, looks like the ones you make out of paper) hat and pinny, and take orders off all the colourful types. Just give me the wink, and I'll make your day. Chips-wise. It's my birthday tommorow, so I looked at my cake today, sneaked a peak while my mum was outside having a fag. It's really naff. I'm getting one of those clever cameras, that has it's own brain for my present. I hope it has artificial intelligence, and starts writing country and western songs when I leave it turned on. right. have to go and spend hours getting ready to be fashionably late. I'm wearing my swanky pants! Those townies better watch their step, I'm wearing spike heels and I feel like a dancin'... Erica x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grey7 at xxx.net Thu Oct 7 20:15:30 1999 From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:15:30 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I'm going to hell because of Belle and Sebastian Message-ID: <000d01bf10f8$52af0980$56381fce@default> To Hell and Back What a week, to start it off I was walking past Wells Hall on Campus humming "If you're Feeling Sinister" to myself when a young man pressed a leaflet into my hand and told me in a sad, yet accusatory tone that I was going to hell. It took me a moment to realize that he was not telling me this because I was whistling a B&S song but because he was part of the family of evangelists that camps outside Wells and passes out leaflets and shouts at people that they're going to hell. So I'm going to hell and I don't have a thing to wear, does anyone know if they have a post office in gehenna? I'll drop you all some lovely postcards from my trip. Hippies revisited Yesterday as I was holding the door open for two A&F wearing gents at the mall one of them glanced at my hooded knit black and tan baja pull-over and sniffed,"so all that hippie shits coming back again". I have yet to figure out how my pull over in any way is considered *hippie shit* Breast milk In my developmental psych class the prof spent an hour and a half discussing breast milk. Yes, it was as exciting as it sounds and I really want a tall cold glass of milk and I'm not sure if that's a healthy psychological reaction. But after all that I get home, check the old email and what do I find!?! >***Laura Llew's List Member of the Week*** > >That member who I've never had any contact with but I think is just the >tops.... Randomness Really.... anyway, hush hush... It Is > >James Gilmer...... *scoffs his pennyloafers and with a shy grin tugs his forelock (that's forelock, as in my strand of hair hanging on my forehead you sinister, sinister people)* Gosh, I don't know what to say really. It's an honor just to be nominated. I would like to thank my momma and elvis though :-) It's suddenly a much , much nicer day despite the fact I have to go to work so I can take classes and learn all about breast milk. I hope all you sinister people have a nice day now.- Jim "We're all out there somewhere, waiting to happen"- Jeff Noon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Thu Oct 7 21:02:00 1999 From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE DICKIE) Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 13:02:00 PDT Subject: Sinister: FEEL FREE TO POST SOMETHING RELEVANT THOUGH. Message-ID: <19991007200200.40026.qmail@hotmail.com> THANKS MISS WOODLAWN I THINK I'LL READ A BOOK BUT WHICH BOOK???? MMMMMMMMMM I'LL FIND ONE HOW ABOUT THAT LOOPER BOOK OHHHHH HOW RELEVANT OF ME LOVE AND TEST TUBE BABIES ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From colinboy21 at xxx.com Thu Oct 7 22:35:20 1999 From: colinboy21 at xxx.com (colin thornton) Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 14:35:20 PDT Subject: Sinister: I was made to love magic... Message-ID: <19991007213521.10251.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello everyone, I've been sucked into your world from a small, pink moon orbiting in the distance (The Nick Drake mailing list-- Place-to-be). My discovery of B&S was accidental, but they exploded into my world with other artists unknown to me: Beth Orton, Wilco, and Jeff Buckley, whom are all probably well known to my new favorite group of people. You can imagine my suprise when the "beautiful-music" dominoes started falling. I'm struggling to keep up with the old and new of REAL pop music that doesn't sell-out. The event that brought me to this list was a package that was sent to me by a nice British gentleman on the Drake list. He sent me a free PAL copy of the B&S MTV Alternative Nation video special. I waited with this coded video for months until I could finally transfer it to NTSC, and now I can't stop watching it. I don't know why the band has to be so damned secretive (probably more so to Americans), but to actually see them be silly and have fun (and quasi-live) makes me so happy. My favorite video is Lazy Line Painter Jane; I can't believe that LLPJ is not a favorite song by most of the list. I'm also enamored with Isobel, who is my favorite member of the band. I'm a bit of a classic and childlike romantic, so Gentle Waves is a new favorite of mine (perfect for rainy days and children). I'm from Kentucky, and I'm a bit of a Belle & Sebastian loner/disciple. I have converted a few listeners at my university, and I discovered a few fans besides me. Being a fan isn't easy in America; afterall, the only things I have to appreciate are the music and the videos (and this list), which is a bit more than Nick Drake has to offer. I was wondering if the Belle and Sebastian lifestyle is big enough in Europe and other places to cause a cultural backlash? I've noticed on certain negative amazon.com B&S reviews that there are a few jerks, whom intend on crushing fragile B&S fans. How big is our sub-culture? I'm just curuious, since most people here are clueless toward any indie music (as was I). Thanks, Colin St. Clair ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Thu Oct 7 13:18:24 1999 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado) Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 08:18:24 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I was made to love magic... References: <19991007213521.10251.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <37FC8F90.8EF29007@utoronto.ca> colin thornton wrote: > > Hello everyone, hello and welcome aboard matey! arrrrrrr! > I was wondering if the Belle and Sebastian lifestyle is big enough in Europe > and other places to cause a cultural backlash? I've noticed on certain > negative amazon.com B&S reviews that there are a few jerks, whom intend on > crushing fragile B&S fans. How big is our sub-culture? I'm just curuious, > since most people here are clueless toward any indie music (as was I). i was discussing a similar thing not too long ago with alex of penguin records here in toronto. he guessed that the B&s backlash would come shortly after the Godspeed you Black Emperor! backlash and he said that would happen after the concert in early september. He was wrong about godspeed... and so far B&S seem to be going fairly strong. However, its not as if alex is some sort of buffoon....far from it, he is a genius and our conversation about various pop backlashes relied heavily on many interesting examples from the past ie the terrifying tortoise backlash that completely crippled the wonderful sam prekop solo record earlier this year. so yes, you need only go so far as your local collection of 'cool' indie kids to see if theres a belle and sebastian backlash on in your neighborhood. gee, maybe its just my limited social circle but everything in toronto seems to tie back into penguin records. most of my male friends have a crush on the lass known only as 'the penguin records girl' and are considering holding some kind of manly fighting contest to determine which out of them is fit to attempt to woo her. also, alex let me hear the new Make Up lp before it comes out later this month and boy are we all in for a treat! I AM PENTAGON! sk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Fri Oct 8 04:23:59 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (B.E. Hamilton) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 23:23:59 -0400 Subject: Sinister: for all gybe! fans with cd burners... Message-ID: <000701bf113c$90b42be0$44711198@wfu.edu> well, the subject line says it all... i have a really simply request. ok i have over an hour of new, that's right, new godspeed you black emperor mp3s (ugh) and i think it'd be dandy to have them on a cd. but i have no cd burner, and i have no tape player in my car, so it'd be kinda worthless, so if anyone has a cd burner and would like to do me the biggest favor ever (and if you have icq or aol IM so you can get these files) and make a cd, as in just putting tracks back to back (there are 6 of them i think) then please email me, i'll repay this kind soul in whatever way he/she wishes. and of course, they can grab a copy for themselves, if it floats their boat. well, just a request, someone, anyone? love blake xx the nerdy shy eyed pacifist ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials." - Jarvis Cocker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Fri Oct 8 04:47:38 1999 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 23:47:38 -0400 Subject: Sinister: i don't love anyone Message-ID: so i rediscovered my favorite form of escapism today: hiding behind my eyeglasses. see, i didn't wear my glasses much for the past few weeks because i didn't like them very much. they weren't very interesting or even very flattering, and they were too tight to wear all the time. sure, they didn't fall off my face when i read, which was nice, but too much and they hurt. anyway, yesterday i went shopping with the oh-so-sexy miss teri zuckerman (poor thing is suffering from an upper respiratory viral infection, so everyone hope for her better health) and we went to target (swanky, i know). anyway, i found a pair of cute little tortoise shell frames that i liked an awful lot for under $100 at the appropriately-named target optical center. so today i come back from an unsucessful lab trying to do time-lapse videography of exodermal cells detaching from sea urchin embryos as a result of degradation of the hyeline layer by hyeline extraction medium. anyway, to make a long story short nothing happened. so i was disappointed and hungry and went home. when i got home i found a joyeous message on my answering machine from the fabulous folks at target telling me my new glasses were ready. so i grabbed my friend steve (who was looking for a toy for a lady-friend) we jumped in his car and drove to target where i got my new glasses. the point of this whole story is that since i put them on some 7 hours ago i remembered how easy it is to distance myself from the rest of the world simply by adding a layer of plastic lenses. everything looks a little more crisp and a little less 3-dimensional, and things tend to warp at the corners, and it seems like i'm watching my life on television, like it's not really happening. i first discovered this at the end of this past summer when jon and i were breaking up. i went for several weeks only taking my glasses off to sleep, even if i didn't need them and my head hurt and my eyes were tired. i didn't want to deal with the outside world, so i hid behind them. and since jon and i got in a fight the other day about our stupid relationship (which i've given up on, btw), these glasses provide such pleasant respite from the real world. *sigh* and the only song i can listen to without feeling depressed is "i don't love anyone," even though it's not really true. oh, and i'm awful sad that i've never been voted list crush, not even been suggested for the list of folks to vote for. :( so if any of you are harboring secret crushes on me, please let it be known and suggest my name or something, because i've been on this list for like a year and a half and nobody's voted for me. there's pictures of me on the sinsiter site, even. i'm not *that* funny-looking, am i? i'll stop whining now. -kerry "if acquired characteristics can not be passed on . . . man lives and suffers in vain. whatever he might have acquired in the course of a lifetime dies with him." -paul kannmerer -- in defence of lamarck +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Catspaw1 at xxx.com Fri Oct 8 05:22:09 1999 From: Catspaw1 at xxx.com (Catspaw1 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 00:22:09 EDT Subject: Sinister: Flatlands, U.S.A. Message-ID: <0.6673eae6.252ecb71@aol.com> Talk of pubs and city streets gets me down, as I have to climb in my car and drive twenty minutes to find both together at the same time (they exist on select corners in downtown KC). It's the kind of thing I do on rainy, overcast evenings, shoving just that particular B&S CD into the stereo, punching up just that particular track that works just so on rainy evenings (works best with Brilliant Career and perhaps The State I Am In, although you never know). B&S is mood music of the highest order, and that's my passion. A rainy night means Nick Drake, Van Morrison (Astral Weeks, natch), Miles Davis, Richard Davies, Jeff (or Tim) Buckley, Sinatra, whatever ... and some nugget from B&S. So I've sprained my ankle playing basketball, can't seem to get my brains together enough to write some things that must be written, and I have friends crashing this weekend, traveling to a football game and raising havoc at a dandy bar (once a gay haunt, but sadly no longer) called the Peanut. So I'm scanning the darkening skies for signs of rain, Sinister sounds clutched to my breast. B Clay type your pet's name into your browser and see what happens. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Fri Oct 8 09:55:48 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 09:55:48 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2297F27D@SERVER1> I hope this doesn't upset Pete R, whose posts are universally top class, but I just needed to say one thing that I've been thinking ever since I first set eyes on the name "the merry pranksters". What a grade A cunt that Ken Kesey must be! And Pete's letter just made me spit bile - his account of Kesey's experiments is all the evidence I need for the introduction of compulsory lobotomies for anyone who thinks any thoughts they have while tripping are worth foisting on anyone else. Very big and clever you sad old men. So, yay, another day's worth listening to the same tedious house mediocrity on a 15 minute loop that is Kiss FM. Jesus, why? I would have thought that such exposure would have left maybe one or two songs ingrained in my head that I found myself tempted to buy next time I'm in HMV, but no. Nothing. Not even a "Music Sounds Better with You" (okay, they do play that sometimes, but it's hardly new and anyway, I've already got it). Why? Though I suppose they do play TLC sometimes. Which reminds me, can anyone recommend a Missy Elliot record for me to get, as I heard something she did a couple of months ago and loved it, but I haven't a clue what it was. It was quite dark and funky, that's all I can remember. Anyone catch the MOBO awards last night? Hmm. I can feel all kinds of white music Vs black music things bubbling up in my subconscious, but we've been there before, so moving swiftly on... The B&S backlash. My take on things is that we're teetering on the edge of non-credibility. Every week, it seems, we're lampooned in the NME, which is kind of sweet, but we haven't featured in their "what's on our stereo" bit for ages. But then the groop haven't released any new songs for ages. Most people still haven't heard of them, and the impact of the Brits is no more than a background hum these days. But at the same time they're no longer a discovery to most. The most important thing is that neither the band nor the fans are much affected by what others think of them anyway, so we'll be alright. We already are. Not sure why I'm so erratic today. Probably cos I'm at work and don't want to be. My boss, after a few weeks of being friendly and reasonable, went arsey yesterday and I just can't be bothered. Perhaps this is a hint that I should work rather than gripe to the Sinister List. Yes, that's what I'll do. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi-tv at xxx.com Fri Oct 8 08:27:33 1999 From: jordi-tv at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano i Vilar) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 08:27:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Were the knights who say NI ! NI NI NI NI NI NI....... Message-ID: <19991008112733.HM.00000000001iFUt@mixmail.com> And also Aidan Moffat is. Maybe. The last issue of the spanish magazine Rock de Lux features an interview with Aidan Moffat, and shows some interesting parts. I don�t have the magazine here with me, but I think that it goes this way: The interview is coming to it�s end. And I haven�t asked about Belle and Sebastian. "You shouldn�t", says Aidan. B&S and Arab Strap are from the same region, and various members of B&S have collaborated on Arab Strap�s albums. But in fact, B&S latest album, "the boy with the arab strap", contains what seems a clear attack to Aidan "You�re constantly updating your hit parade of your ten biggest wanks". "The only think that I can say is that the drummer is a nice guy". Laughs. Well, I�m willing to know if anyone can tell me how can we have this situation a year after half B&S played on "Philophobia". It doesn�t look really good. I�m going out for the next three days. I�m really excited about it, but I won�t be able to check my mails. ================================================== Jordiet Sinistre - jordi at belleandsebastian.org (for personal answers use this adress) ================================================== Tu E-Mail Gratis en http://www.mixmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Fri Oct 8 12:57:06 1999 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 12:57:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The gas man and the inflatable cod Message-ID: <62WefCASwd$3EwIZ@send.demon.co.uk> Dear all, I'm afraid I bring bad news to all those admirers and followers of Steve the inflatable fish. He is missing presumed dead after having several drinks and then being passed round the dancefloor, a bit like Owen Meany in Sunday school, of a small club in trendy Fulham. Rumours of an inflatable Crimewatch special, as of yet, are unfounded. The Wake is presently being delayed in case his deflated remains are found. The saddest part of it all is that I never got the chance to tell him that I loved him really. Anyway, at the absence of anything constructive to say and not wishing to extend the heated Richard Stilgoe debate to the highlights of the career of the amusingly spectacled Cristopher Biggins I shall just continue pointlessly and say: I think Mr Casarotto's spiel on Mr Ken Kesey was more than a bit harsh >What a grade A cunt that Ken >Kesey must be! And Pete's letter just made me spit bile - his account of >Kesey's experiments is all the evidence I need for the introduction of >compulsory lobotomies for anyone who thinks any thoughts they have while >tripping are worth foisting on anyone else. Very big and clever you sad old >men. Wasn't Kesey was paid by the American government to take LSD? As they had no idea what effect it had. He then, being of an open mind, began experimenting with it and passing it on to all his mates. LSD had no history at this point, so they weren't to know that it would be responsible for a load of hippies walking round going "Wow man!". So in conclusion everything is the fault of the American government, quelle surprise, and it is probably they who are the "grade A cunt"'s. Aren't gassy men a pain? The bloke came to replace the pump on my central heating yesterday and then in the evening I get water coming through the kitchen. Apparently he damaged the gas cylinder making it leak, so they drained that and now have to replace to it. Consequently I have no hot water and the only thing heated in my abode was the conversation I had with the gas board to get it fixed quickly. What a bunch of "grade A cunt"'s they are (I can use this nasty word all the time now and just say I'm quoting that foul mouthed fouler Casarotto). Anyway can I start a new list of recommended domestic heating service providers? Go electric kids you won't regret it. Time to conclude this tedium as there's a pint with my name on it. Te ra, Martin ear confection recordings (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Fri Oct 8 14:11:20 1999 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 06:11:20 PDT Subject: Sinister: Fwd: THE "NEW BLOW UP" Message-ID: <19991008131121.99379.qmail@hotmail.com> ----Original Message Follows---- From: "CHRIS KING" Reply-To: "CHRIS KING" To: "Yoni Neeman" , ,"wisemen" ,,"Vanessa Cotton" ,, "Tracey Eastwood" ,, ,, ,, ,"Tim Perry" , ,, ,, ,, ,"Simon McKay" , ,"Sheridan Trowsdale" ,, "Seamus Ward" ,, ,"Sarah Neve" ,, ,, "RMK" ,"Revd D Lewis" , ,"Rachel Willis" , ,, ,"PES" , ,"Paul Cox" , ,,"Nicholas Drury" ,, ,"MIKE HUGHES" ,"Mick Fitzpatrick" ,"Martin OConnor" ,, ,"Mark Braby" ,, "LWesch" ,"Lisa Verrico" ,"Les Carter" , ,, ,"Karen Fisher" ,"Johnny Hopkins" ,"john varey" ,"John Reed" , "john rausch" ,, ,, ,"JAYNE DOWLE" ,, ,, ,, ,"Ian Chapman" , ,, ,, ,, ,"Fever! Productions" ,"emma hogan" , "Ed Lowe" ,, "denny" ,,"David Beck" ,"Dave Rimmer" ,, ,, "Cath Manley" ,, ,,"Brian Conyers" ,, "Babz" ,, ,, ,"Andrew Perry" ,"Andrew Harwood" ,,"Ahoy! The LondonNet Newsletter" ,, "Abbott, Mark" Subject: THE "NEW BLOW UP" Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:47:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 >From c.king at easynet.co.uk Fri Oct 08 00:55:49 1999 Received: from [195.40.1.44] by hotmail.com (3.1) with ESMTP id MHotMailB9C6EE2B001BD820F3CDC328012C064E0; Fri Oct 08 00:54:22 1999 Received: from fig.mail.easynet.net (fig.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.46])by satsuma.mail.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A0DD07B2FDfor ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:52:30 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 29023 invoked from network); 8 Oct 1999 07:51:21 -0000 Received: from c.king.easynet.co.uk (HELO windows95) (195.40.217.142) by fig.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 8 Oct 1999 07:51:21 -0000 Message-ID: <01bf1161$715a33a0$LocalHost at windows95> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Fri Oct 8 13:55:22 1999 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:55:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Stilgoe: Latest update Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB6970C360@park_ex> This just in: Following extensive research involving numerous friends of mine of a "certain age" (ie about the same as me) the following info has come to light. As well as "Stillgoes On", there was also "Finders Keepers" which was the one I was thinking of, involving battleships/noughts & crosses. Hopefully this can end the gnashing of teeth and wailing that has no doubt been keeping you awake at night :) for those of you unaware of Mr Stilgoe there is a piccie of him here (with him dressed as High Sherrif of Surrey, no less): http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/sboreham/surrey2000/Sherrif.htm and what a "grade A cunt" he looks. ah, the joys of the information super-skiveway. xoxo CarsmiileSteve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk Fri Oct 8 14:15:31 1999 From: pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk (Pamela Hutchinson) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 14:15:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: wearing badges is not enough Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From rebeckas at xxx.com Fri Oct 8 14:36:14 1999 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 06:36:14 PDT Subject: Sinister: DA DOO RON RON - WED 20th OCTOBER - GUEST DJ's BEANS from BELLE & SEBASTIAN & ANDREW (Divine Club - Glasgow) Message-ID: <19991008133615.71284.qmail@hotmail.com> Oki this was the message i was trying to send.. sorry for making it wrong thete u go people, hugs becky http://travel.to/blondie DA DOO RON RON - NEXT DATE - WED 20th OCTOBER - GUEST DJ's - BEANS GEDDES (BELLE & SEBASTIAN) & ANDREW (Glasgow club - DIVINE) After September's sold-out Da Doo Ron Ron club night when MARK LAMARR was the special guest DJ, Da Doo Ron Ron returns on Wed 20th October for another sashay through the 60's girl group and femme soul scene. Guest DJ's are BEANS GEDDES from Brit-scooping, Scots popsters BELLE & SEBASTIAN and ANDREW B & S tour DJ and regular disc-spinner at hip Glasgow club DIVINE. WEDNESDAY 20th OCTOBER DA DOO RON RON @ PO NA NA - 259, UPPER STREET, ISLINGTON, HIGHBURY CORNER, LONDON N.1 (Venue Tel:-0171-359-6191) Directly adjacent to Highbury & Islington tube station, below the FAMOUS COCK TAVERN hostelry 9.00 PM - 2.00AM �3 with a flyer / �5 without Regular DJ�s Chris & Declan PLUS special guest DJ SAID LIQUIDATOR (SPEARMINT) spin (female only) tunes courtesy of gargantuan girl group classics, Detroit dollies, Northern nightingales, Motown minxes, searing soul sirens and playful popstrels:-RONETTES, SHANGRI-LA�S, FLIRTATIONS, CHIFFONS, VELVELETTES, MARVELETTES, VANDELLAS, MAXINE BROWN, DUSTY SPRINGFIELD, DARLENE LOVE, PETULA CLARK, JULIE LONDON, NANCY SINATRA, LESLEY GORE, SUPREMES, CRYSTALS, SHIRELLES, COOKIES, CHANTELS, BRENDA HOLLOWAY, KIM WESTON, P. P. ARNOLD ET AL... For further information please contact DDRR promoter and organiser Chris King on TEL:-0181-342-9243 E-mail:-c.king at easynet.co.uk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Fri Oct 8 17:11:01 1999 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 09:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: all my friends are on their holidays Message-ID: <19991008161102.20914.rocketmail@web117.yahoomail.com> oh, my darlings... which one of you did it? or rather, which two? who could have voted for me on the listcrush? Twice??? well now i'm going to get a big head about it, and i'm going to go as far as to say that honey has put my pic on the pic-page, and you can go find me and add or retract yr vote, as the case may be. oh dears -- i had such grand plans for this weekend. it is our fall break from school, and i had 5 glorious days of traipsing about nyc planned. but, due to a few financial bumps, i'll be spending my break in the suburbs with my family, probably watching sitcoms and trying desperately to find anything vegan in our kitchen. *** laurentigerxdare -- i hope you are better! and oh, i heard a track of the secret stars yesterday, called "eyelashes," and it is A M A Z I N G .... i need more of them.... well, keeping me company over my pathetic break will be my new isobel&fox t-shirt and assorted badges. you know, i'm not a big fan of the gentle waves, but the occaisional isobel song in the context of struan songs is nice. but i must add that part of the reason i love b&s so much is struan's voice. so i'm in the camp of "please let there be exclusively stuart m. songs on the next album!" is that wrong? oh, one more thing: i'm so happy to hear (read) everyone giving everyone else Massive Props, and i just wanted to say that, the other day, i used the phrase "take the piss" in everyday conversation without realizing it, and i got funny looks. oops. hey you glasgow listees! take care of our mandy (amandaXihhzineX) who is there Right Now. ja? xoxo, marie ===== ************************************************************************************************* "I was a proper snob in college, as only a future lifetime English major can be" - buddy glass "to me she was just marie." -mersault ************************************************************************************************* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dunca_chap at xxx.com Fri Oct 8 17:56:05 1999 From: dunca_chap at xxx.com (Adam Chapman) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 16:56:05 GMT Subject: Sinister: Ducks. Message-ID: <19991008165605.87761.qmail@hotmail.com> Sorry, I've got ducks on the brain at the moment, its the problem of having a bloody great lake and large piles of moldy bread in easy walking distance of an afternoon. So, hows life and A levels, these both seem along way off right now, and i've only been here 2.5 weeks, the works already catching up, and being avoided. I'm going to see 'The Texus Chainsaw Massacre' tonight for some peculiar reason. A friend of mine says shes going to take a cushion to hide behind which as makes it an absolute must see for that very reason, as they strike me as the least likely person to even consider seeing it; or is that just me? Has the Belle and Sebastian Backlash started yet? Only in the *Melody* maker thus far i think, and amoungst those who find the Stereophonics songwriting too deep for them [though they probably haven't heard of B+S come to think of it]. Have you noticed how in the personal columns of the music press how many people try to use B+S to project an image? Its rapidly becoming a cliche [sorry, can't do the accent over the 'e'], along with the *I'm-a-manics-fan-who-writes-crap-poetry and has a glitter fixation*, and the *Me-big-beat-'fatboy'-loser*, you now get the *I'm-soft-and-fluffy and like Belle and Sebastian* [therefore implying that they're much the same thing, I merely suggest that this is not the case...]. I'm off to further ingratiate myself with the beer swilling masses,adieu. Adam ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mhintz at xxx.edu Fri Oct 8 18:36:01 1999 From: mhintz at xxx.edu (Matthew Hintz) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:36:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Isobel was taken by sqirrels Message-ID: Glasgow, SCOTLAND--Cellist and singer for the popular group Belle and Sebastan has been missing since earlier in the week. Her absence would have been reported earlier, but friends thought she was 'in one of her moods'. After an investigation at her flat, there is no trace of her, save for the babushka. Other evidence at the scene is a collection of twigs and leaves strewn about the flat with signs of a struggle. Her stuffed animals may have been eye witnesses, but are staying strangely silent. One source says that a possible motive may have been the forest creatures anger over her depiction of them on her solo album as the Gentle Waves. 'It's not so sweet as she puts it in her songs; it's rough and animals die. We want someone to tell animal life in a realistic light,' says the source. The investigation is continuing. Stolen Kisses http://stolenkisses.tripod.com 'We are reasonably young.' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Fri Oct 8 20:35:43 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 12:35:43 PDT Subject: Sinister: a little bit of you makes me a man Message-ID: <19991008193543.85450.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello list, a quickie,if you please... First of all,I know there are French listees on here.Can you help me please? What about that lovely Julien Boelidieu whom my mails never sent to? Anyways..I need to do a huge project on either France things or Quebec things (but I dont want to do Quebec things) And as usual,I use the Sinister list for my un-creativity. Another french thing....my mother just told me normandy is very close to england...how close? (I am a terrible geography person) and to what part of england? Would one just take a ferry over to England,and is this cheap? More french things! My friend just got back from Paris and she said everyone is wearing leather there. The GAP predictions come true!So note to Stuart M: Ditch those electric circus silver pants boy because its LEATHER now Mister Christopher was seeking points on how to approach celeberties.I definitley go for licentious groupie behaviour! I dont know about you guys,but I always picture Chris with waist-length tresses of spun gold.I would use to this to my advantage! Gather the hair in a ponytail and when it comes time to meet the celebrity,undo the pony-tail and TOUSLE, TOUSLE, TOUSLE! I have met some celeberties before.I met Brett Anderson at an A&W (no joke) and I breathed heavily into his ear and he liked that.I also had my picture taken with Bobby Rush,even though at the time I had no idea who he was.I guess that made me a groupie-skank.Well,I smiled and put my arm around him and then he moved on.So,every celebrity is different,you just gotta know what buttons to push. Now what are belle and sebastians buttons? This is the question. Elizabeth,if Stuart wore a muzzle and lamp-shade thing around his neck for me,I would be very impressed. but TWO >THOUSAND WORDS OF A PHILOSOPHICAL ESSAY BY PROUST to translate into >english... Whenever I hear the words "Proust" I automatically hear that Monty Python song where you have to anaylze Proust in 1 minute or something... "Proust in his first book wrote about,wrote about..." I also think of that sketch where it is the German philosophers versus the Greek ones in a soccer game. Ho ho ho!!! a whole lotta lovin', momma genevieve x ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Fri Oct 8 20:51:33 1999 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:51:33 -0400 Subject: Sinister: a note of thanks Message-ID: So i just thought i'd post to thank the anonymous stranger who sent me a cute little post card. i would have saved you all a little time and written him/her personally, but he/she sent it with a fake address. so thank you, mysterious stranger, it did indeed put a smile on my face. and thank you to whomever it was that suggested my name on the list crush site, even if it was only to get me to shut up about it (ha! your plan didn't work! i'm still talking about it!). okay. i hope honey doesn't yell at me about sending such a short and belleandsebastianless post. -kerry "sustained by special providence, i am fighting for dear life against that demonic rice-cake." -Soseki Natsume, _i am a cat_ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Fri Oct 8 20:47:34 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 20:47:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Help a lost listee.. Message-ID: <008901bf11c5$f81ddf40$5a123c3e@default> Does anyone on the list live in Mosspark, Glasgow? If so, could you please mail me at jasonandreas at breathemail.net This isn't for me, but a newly arrived in Glasgow listee, she's lost and scared with no-one except me to turn to.... and I've not got a life, so I'm throwing open the appeal doors. (sorry for blatantly abusing the list, Paul, but this is a good cause, as I'm the only person she knows in the whole of Glasgow...) -- Jason Andreas -- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Sat Oct 9 00:26:34 1999 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 19:26:34 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I used to know someone who was babysat by Gary Glitter Message-ID: <199910081926_MC2-8839-9E60@compuserve.com> Gay Jeremy is still waiting out side in the rain. He's been doing shifts with Stan from The Housemartins. Stan by day, Jeremy by night. We all thought that Jeremy and his pin prick eyes would search the night sky better than Stan and his NHS spectacles. Besides, Stan's glasses have a tint in them and can repel sunlight. Well, I have fought long and hard to get to, wait for it, 194 in the list crush. Quite popular then, no. I can't think what it is. I've changed my pants, have a new hair cut (French Crop) and regulary wear deodorant. And, in the hope that I will be noticed, even walk past the girls changing rooms on the way to PSE, but that doesn't count in my favour. Some of the girls have noticed the string attached to the handle and followed it back to my house. They wrote things on my front door in paint that's really hard to shift and they keep writing me rude letters, I don't mind that but I wish that they'd post them the normal way. Anyway, the main point for mailing. A few days ago, Wednesday to be exact, not too far away from Ladbrook Grove, gulp, I purchased a copy of Illunination by The Pastels. I've currently been looking for it's cover for half an hour but that's besides the point. The thing is, and I know it's list abuse but I've been to their site and all and I must confess I thought they were late teens early twenties, only to discover they were on their 28th album when The Smiths were starting out. I would like to know as much as poss about them, The Pastels. TweeNet wasn't it's usual help full self and their site was vauge. Oh, hang on, I remember that Miss Cambell played something on Illunination, so I suppose it's got something to do with B&S - you have to really want to beleave that one though. If any of you know anything it would be greatly apprieacited, fanks. Rob <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> http://members.tripod.co.uk/wpwe http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Performance/4408 <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian at xxx.uk Sat Oct 9 00:00:46 1999 From: ian at xxx.uk (ian) Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 00:00:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Queen of Screech Message-ID: <000001bf11e4$76b12600$0c66883e@default> hello... i'm not going to do a funny introduction today, i'm not in the mood.. pj miller and friend were discussing: >>>Yoko Ono: Surely the Queen of Screech has appeared with one of the Lennon >brats at some time or other? -Ah yes. Yoko's most recent albums, entitled "Rising" and "Rising -Remixes" featured Wee Sean's group IMA, which must stand for -something. I thought about buying them at the time, but thankfully I -didn't bother in the end. The remix one has got a twenty or thirty -minute thing tagged on the end. Correct me if I'm wrong. right, mr miller, open wide.. your mouth that is...and stay still while i get my trusty bar of soap.. it seems that it is one of those periodic sticking-up-for-yoko moments... actually, i'm not going to engage in a heated debate on the quality of madam ono's music, or defend her right to scream her way through an album if that's what she wants to do (granted, not one of her most listenable attempts) probably best to stick to specifics.. pj, if you like yoko then these albums are well worth a listen. as with most of her excursions into recording, there are some songs that work and some that don't but when she does hit the nail on the head the results are amazing. having said that, i've never played the thirty minute interactive piece at the end of the mix album. there's a song that precedes it named "franklin summer" where yoko makes noises for twenty minutes, and i've never really got past that. hmm...i'm not doing a very good job of sticking up for her am i? its very late in the day and i should be out there drinking with the other boys and girls instead of inside tapping away at my keyboard. but while i'm here....owen said -The -thing is you can never really understand what I'm trying to say unless -your me, and one thing you can never be is me. I can send you a postcard -but you can't come to visit. If I could write better postcards then you -might get a better view of where I am. It depresses me that I can't as -being useless at expressing myself leads to the sort of misunderstanding -that is documented above. you know owen, i thought your postcard was wonderful. it had the sort of design that i could sit and stare at for hours. perhaps you should keep that analogy and use it the next time you meet mr murdoch... rob: _As far as the list crush goes I now refuse to recognise it's authority. I deny it. I am a _fugitive from its dominion. See? Knackers to it. right on, comrade....we don't need no popularity contest. we are sure enough of ourselves and our own identities, and we don't require them to be reified by a computerised poll... sour grapes? me? of course not.. alasdair reveals excellent taste: _Songs with speaking in them. I really like the end of Suede's 'Stay _Together', in fact it's one of my favourite endings to a song because of _the general chaos, which the speaking enhances amen to that, brother (oh, sorry, i was momentarily possessed by the soul of a gospel singer)....i especially like the whale noises at the end of the extended version... perhaps i should stop there. i've gone into "agreeing with people" mode and that's usually a sign that my creativity's gone down the pub. i'll go and stare at the wall for a bit instead ian "sort of like a gay dirty den, really"...apparently.. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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Message-ID: <0.c72b6ff6.252ff69c@aol.com> hello darlings, well here i am, on a friday night, i just got home from watching the kids, and ive had a more fun evening than i would have had if i would have went out with any of my friends. i like kids. i mean sure sometimes they arent fun, but for the most part i really love them and cant wait to have my own kid some day. today when i went there, i was upset (am i ever not upset these days?), and i started crying a little bit, so the little three year old tried to comfort me, and he told me that he would beat up whoever made me sad. =)...i have two days with no school and i am just going to stay in the house and sleep and not talk to anyone. my friend called me today and the last time i talked to him he was quite rude. today my dear sinisterees, i have reached my breaking point. no more will i endure other people shite. i don't deserve to be treated bad by anyone, and i refuse to converse with anyone who wont treat me with anything but respect. so he called and said whats up and i proceeded to tell him off and scream and it was liberating. i am buying a new address book for all my telephone numbers and i am burning my old one. i am only going to keep very few numbers. i dont even like most of the people i associate with so the answer is to stop talking to everyone. i will just meet new people but actually if i dont i really dont give a flying fuck. i enjoy being alone and not having to deal with people and their annoying little attitudes. today is the start of a new era, my dears. xoxo, lauren. p.s- i miss you LJ and yes marie, you must buy that secret stars cd but i will still copy it for you plus their other cd called geneologies. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kshank at xxx.net Fri Oct 8 23:20:24 1999 From: kshank at xxx.net (Ketan Shankardass) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 18:20:24 -0400 Subject: Sinister: goin' out to the Glasgow junglist massive References: <199910081950.NAA17553@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: <37FE6E28.F620A8F7@interlynx.net> with the sun being out and the trees changing colour, i must proclaim: "it was a lovely day in south western ontario". anyways, the following is a request that has nothing to do about b&s but alas...i am not a member of any Glaswegian listserve...i thought that this would be a good place to ask instead... i am seriously considering doing a Masters in public health at U of Glasgow next year and i was wondering if anyone out there has any experience or insight into the matter...please respond to my email address and not the list...kshank at interlynx.net good night...god bless...sweet dreams...tweety birds... (i used to say that as fast as i could to every member of my family before bedtime when i was wee.) ketan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Sat Oct 9 03:31:31 1999 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 19:31:31 PDT Subject: Sinister: I'll only buy a book for the way it looks Message-ID: <19991009023132.36851.qmail@hotmail.com> Welcome to LauraLand! Please learn and follow the rules while in LauraLand. No running, no yelling, no grumbling, no cutting in line, no jumping, no horseplay. That means you. No breaking things and putting them back like nothing happened. No sad faces, bad attitudes, introspective moments, irritation at the mindless happiness of the masses, and no littering. Is that clear? Our Main Attraction here is Laura Llew's Lovely Literary List of 1999. http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/litlist.htm (and you thought it was me. ha!) It was so named for egotistical purposes more than anything else. The recommendations from this list was the work of members of this lovely sinister list. Now, there was one suggestion from a non-list member who thought that all of belle and sebastian songs sound alike. But just as the anti-government psycho woodsman who I got stuck up in the mountains of Utah said to me, "Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Even if its blatantly wrong." Please take careful note of the lovely disclaimer at top. I am not held personally accountable for any images/thoughts/ideas that are inflicted in your minds because of these books. However, if you want to talk to me about any of the books feel free to. I have a short synopsis of most of the books (provided by those who recommended them) and have read quite a few of them. It'll be like a second opinion of sorts. I would like to thank everyone who participated and recommended their favorite reads to me. I enjoyed putting together the list immensely and am quite pleased that I had such a good response. I'm quite looking forward to reading all of the suggestions (my new goal). As always, I am thankful that Honey allows me to use this list to beef up my e-mail box and allow me to use this list to compile my own. Very kind of our list mummy indeed. Blake Hamilton was also very encouraging during the early stages of the list with cheers and such. He makes a fabulous cheerleader. Though his legs in that short skirt, leave something to be desired. Like more fabric. hehe. I would especially like to show my utmost gratitude to: **Laura Llew's MVP (Most Valuable Poster)** For that list member whose patience, knowledge, and kindness that knows no bounds. Who has helped tremedously with the list - graciously offering to put the list up on the web. Their name should be at top of the list - not mine. They did a TON of work on this list and has been incredibly patience with my ignorance and my affinity of *tweaking*. Yes, I am eternally thankful for the help of ........................Jan Imgrund............................... I really can't even begin to express how much help he has been. So, I'll stop trying to. So, Wouldn't you like to get away? Give yourself up to the allure of Catcher In The Rye The future's swathed in Stars and Stripes Wouldn't you like to get away? Kerouac's beckoning with open arms, And open roads of eucalyptus Westward Bound............ *Snapped Crackled and P!O!P!P!I!N!G!* I've never met a bat I didn't like... Laura Llew Who (is still disappointed that no one thought to send her the following last week: "Laura's feeling just ideal. Her Horoscope was nearly perfect. She's thinking of something to do because she is the birthday girl." Fit perfectly, eh?) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From scilabs at xxx.com Fri Oct 8 03:45:24 1999 From: scilabs at xxx.com (Joss) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 03:45:24 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <000501bf1137$2cde41a0$a98491c2@default> Firstly, I am drunk beyond sense. The B&S DJ thing in Dublin is now delayed until the 19th of November. Here's Ms Paula.(she of the booze) aiight? as joss so eloquently said, we are quite "tired". to all who found me disappointlingly sober in london, i can truly say that i am as pissed as rwo farts at this moment. joss looks like my living room carpet tonight. well, his jumper does, at least. joss looooooooooves george michael. im gonna send this b4 he sees it...... loves, paulawaula. x x x . +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian at xxx.uk Sat Oct 9 12:25:57 1999 From: ian at xxx.uk (shut your maawf you dozy taaart) Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:25:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Anyone can fall in love, that's the easy part, but keeping it going.. Message-ID: <000001bf1249$2edcd440$2a28883e@default> in last week's episode robert foster (who seems unhealthily concerned with people's willies) if all goes to plan I could have me a poetry parrot, or that retched dinosaur arse hole. I heard that he's trying to snuff the parrot out so that he can be the new poetry hard man, a sort of gay Dirty Den. -------------------------------------- This week on Ianstenders.... "shut yawr mawf you dozy cawr.......I never lavd ya...I aalways lavd Jan...She was miles classier than yaa'll evver be" Ian slaps Anita Roddick....(should be Anita Dobson but we couldn't get her) around the chops and storms out of the bar. Angie/Anita collapses into a heap on the floor sobbing. Close up of Ian's evil face, staring up at the streetlamps of Oaklands Road and laughing... he mutters the words "stupid cawr..." to himself before climbing into his car and driving off to see his mistress (who is, of course, only masquerading under the name Jan and is really a seven foot Sumo wrestler named Sid) Back to Anita, crawling across the floor of the Queen Mick and sobbing something incoherent about peppermint footwash.. stayed tuned for the next episode.. ---------------------------- Well, I'm trying...I'm even using capitals to dispell that tweeness and enhance my new evil persona.... I must warn you sir, that if you insult my pterodactyl, you insult me, and I am handy with a whip-and-chain.. Well, it seems the pottery pterodactyl was not a resounding success...oh my poor ceramic baby...what have they done to you? nothing, except cast aspersions on your sexuality? And I didn't even give you genitals? Well, that's life kiddo. Sit and ponder the essential thanklessness of it all and recite us a poem: "A Doll's House" A man sat staring at a doll's house Hour after hour and more and more He believed. He could see In the kitchenette two personettes And one of them was standing in the sink And one lay on the floor. The man stared more and more The bed in the bathroom was neatly made up with a Pink eiderdown neatly made up from a Pink ribbon. But noone was in the bed And noone was in the bathroom. Only a horse Was trying the door. The man stared more and more. Then softly the man went in, Edged down Past the creaky banisters, down He crept To the hall, hid nimbly Behind a cow. >From the sink: "My dear, That tractor's on the roof again, I fear." Sadly from the floor "These nights It always seems to be there." Then silence between Personette A and Personette B Now like a matchstick drumming a plastic thimble, Now like the sea. >From the sink; "How I wish, my dear, That you and I could move house. But these matters are not in our hands. Our directives Come from above." Said the floor: "How can we ever move house When the house keeps moving, my love?" A man sat staring at a doll's house Hour after hour and more and more He believed he could see Perspectives of the terrorized world, Delicate, as a new-tooled body, Monstrous, mad as he. Kit Wright. Coo gently, my pottery friend, and think of new tales for us all. Mr Foster, if you want my pterodactyl, you are welcome to borrow. Just don't try and make it do anything unsavoury... oh...one last thing.. megan said >opposition will be listened to, but surely overcome, as the new order of >sebastianites leads the procession into the next battlefield. join to us, >we like thai elephants! and for that, you get my list crush vote...whether you want it or not... Dirty Ian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Sat Oct 9 14:35:18 1999 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 09:35:18 -0400 Subject: Sinister: This is where my summers have gone, I want a second chance Message-ID: <199910090935_MC2-885B-A20F@compuserve.com> The BBC's Walking With Dinosaurs has tainted my perception of things. I imagined a hideous deformed being. Uncouth and loud with snarling yellow teeth, long dirty claws and un-polished shoes. I dreaded listening to it gruffly, roughly, murdering a poem about butterflies or flowers or brown paper packages tied with string. This morning my gentle dozing was disturbed by a scratching at my window. I carefully removed the rose petals which had served as a blanket, wrapped my silken gown around my bare shoulders and glided over to the French doors. There, through the clear glass stood a figure of magnificent form and beauty. Surrounded in a golden halo, like a cultured Golden Graham. An enormous wing span tempted me. It was like a giant 65 million year old hug from something cosy. I undid the latch and let it in. Once inside cherubs descended from the painting on the ceiling and began to prepare a breakfast of Strawberries, Mango, Grapes (seedless) and green tea. We took our meal out into the patio to consume under the light of a morning sun. Once sitting we talked for quite a few hours about Keats, Yeats and Marlow. Even some bloke called Murdoch. Anyway, were great friends now. He convinced me to offer something for harvest, so here it is. The Darkling Thrush, Thomas Hardy I leant upon a coppice gate When Frost was spectre-grey, And Winter's dregs made desolate The weakening eye of day. The tangled bine-stems scored the sky Like strings of broken lyres, And all mankind that haunted nigh Had sought their household fries. The land's sharp features seemed to be The Century's corpse outleant, His crypt the cloudy canopy, The wind his death-lament The ancient pulse of germ and birth Was shrunken hard and dry And every sprit upon earth Seemed fervourless as I. At once a voice arouse among The bleak twigs overhead In a full-hearted evensong Of joy illimited; An aged thrush, frail, gaunt and small, In blast-beruffled plume, Had chosen thus to fling his soul Upon the growing gloom So little cause for carolings Of such ecstatic sound Was written on terrestrial things Afar or nigh around, That I could think there trembled through His happy good-night air Some blessed Hope, whereof he knew And I was unaware. I think that it is customary at this point to whisper in the pterodactyl's ear and persuade him who to fly to next. My first choice was Isobel Cambell. But the pterodactyl just laughed. How about GEORGE DICKIE. I said. This made the pterodactyl a bit cross because I shouted in his ear. But sure enough and after he finished his green tea he took to the sky, off to DICKIE acres. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Sat Oct 9 02:47:27 1999 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 21:47:27 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Looking Up, he saw that on the contrary, the sky is like the viels of whick a thousand madonnas have let fall from their hair.... Message-ID: <37FE9EAF.F40B0B3@utoronto.ca> Since books are very much an issue around here again i thought this would be an ok time to bring this up (although I'm sure this has come up before). has anyone noticed that there is quite a bit of obsessing over a 'fox in the snow' in the first chapter of 'Orlando' by, perhaps my favourite grown up author, Virginia Woolf (or is it that czec fellow who turns into a beetle...i just can't be sure)? anyway, if no one has noticed this then you should all go and read the first chapter of said book and hopefully you'll read the rest....although after reading the L.L.L.L. it seems that Orlando won't be nearly smutty enough for sinisitrines....henry miller indeed! pah! sk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Sat Oct 9 15:40:08 1999 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 15:40:08 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I wrote a poem on a dog biscuit but your dog refused to look at it Message-ID: GAS MEN My dad is a gas engineer and He's really a nice guy honest so please don't say nasty things about them. In fact earlier this year he cycled accross the country for charity so you should say nice things about him really. KERRY'S LIST CRUSH Well Kerry now that you've made a complaint about not getting any votes and pointed out that you have a picture on the site (and a very nice picture it is too) I'm sure that you'll get a lot of votes. Of course if I was cynical I'd say that I always thought it better to give list crush votes to people who write nice posts (and I'm not saying you don't) than to people with sexy pictures, but as I'm not like that I won't say it. THE PASTELS AND KURT COBAIN Somebody was asking about the pastels so whoever it was should mail me and then I can tell you lots of pointless facts about one of my favourite bands. For instance did you know that Stephen Pastel produced the first Vaselines stuff and it was some of Kurt Cobains favourite music hence the cover versions of Molly's Lips and Jesus Don't Want Me For A Sunbeam. One of my friends was at a concert once and the support band was Captain America which was Eugene's band after the Vaselines and she was sitting at the back smoking when some guy came up to her and asked for a cigarette, she gave him one (a cigarette that is) and sat talking to him for a while and then she noticed a large group of girls giving her nasty looks so she asked him if he was in one of the bands and he said he was a lead singer and that they were on later. It was only when Nirvana came on that she realised that she'd been talking to Kurt Cobain. B&S CONTENT ermmm sorry I can't think of any right now. Maybe we should go back to recounting all of our "hilarious" lyric mishearings. On second thoughts maybe we shouldn't AND FINALY A quick update on my lovelife just to show that it's going as badly as ever. The girl I'm after has decided that she likes me but that she doesn't want to go out with me because of a couple of other women who like me that I'm not interested in. She seems to think that because I have all these women to choose from (that'd be funny if you'd ever met me) then I'm going to dump her as soon as someone better comes along. Sometimes I don't know why I bother with women. bye now love owen this is owen's signature file and as such will appear at the bottom of all of his mails. If you have a problem with this then feel free to contact him at ol01 at students.stir.ac.uk or owen at belleandsebastian.org +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keythkeyth at xxx.net Sat Oct 9 21:12:33 1999 From: keythkeyth at xxx.net (keith mclachlan) Date: 9 Oct 99 13:12:33 PDT Subject: Sinister: books are filled with words Message-ID: <19991009201233.24280.qmail@ww181.netaddress.usa.net> someone brought up books again and i thought i'd just chime in cause someone recently gave me luke sutherland's book 'jelly roll', now luke is a musical genius and this may very well be a fine book(it was nominated for a whitbred(sp?) award apparently) but i can't seem to get into scottish dialect on the page. my girlfriend suggested i read it aloud and then i might find it less aggravating, i dunno it just seems to be a complement to the american south dialect which also seems to make me quite weary. luke's second book is out in the new year, not sure if i want that one:). on another note anthony from Jack has a book out soon as well, i am willing to bet that it will involve drinking. keith the new moose ep is in fact sparkling:) how have they slid beneath the radar of popular consciousness for so long? i remember reading reviews of their live performances back when 'xyz' came out and the general theme seemed to be that they turned those beautiful songs into droning dirges onstage, has anyone actually seen them live? i think if all the members of b&s write songs for b&s records then stuart m should write looper and gentle waves songs:) does owen post this nonsense about his abundance of admirers for pity? ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From craigrm at xxx.uk Sun Oct 10 15:32:21 1999 From: craigrm at xxx.uk (Craig) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 15:32:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Actual B&S content Message-ID: <000b01bf132c$44ade8c0$aee393c3@orlando1> OK I'll admit it's not "actual" as in band gossip or anything exciting like that, but it still makes a nice change from the usual random thoughts I insist on inflicting upon you all. Firstly in order for this to all make sense I'll have to make a wee confession. I have purchased this weeks NME. I can't fully explain it as it's all a bit of a blur.... I can vaguely remember being in Sainsbury's and the next thing I knew I was back home with a weeks supply of groceries, and a brand spanking new copy of the NME. I figured I might as well read it. Lo & behold I came upon an article concerning "100 Ways That Rock Shook Up The World". 01. Kurt Cobain's death - yawn 02. Dylan going electric 03. Belle & Sebastian winning a Brit award - accompanied by a lovely piccy of Mick & Richard looking rather bemused by it all. 04. Neil Young and Lynyrd Skynyrd's Infamous spat 05. Lennon claiming the Beatles are bigger than Jesus and so on ..... Still nice to see that the monumentous Brit's win was such an earth shattering event, no doubt it had the 'Hot Line' between Downing St. and the Whitehouse running red hot all night. Here's what the NME had to say about it. "A fabulous bit of barricade-charging here, as Stuart Murdoch's reclusive gang stormed the world of Dave Stuart and Jonathan King. As surprise nomination for 1998's Best Newcomer Brit Award, Belle & Sebastian were up against Steps and Another Level - particularly tough competition given the result was decided by a Radio 1 listeners poll. Yet not only did they win gloriously, sending - in quiet mockery - drummer Richard Colburn and trumpeter Mick Cook to collect their award, they also outraged pop pope Pete Waterman, who claimed vote-rigging by e-mail. Untrue: Belle & Sebastian fans were merely techno-literate, and the forces of Scottish indie and computer science prevailed. A result in every way." Ohhhh does that mean the NME likes us now ?. Anyway that's enough for now, I'll let you get on with your lives until my next thrilling post. Don't let Jack Frost bite !!! (unless he's paying £175 an hour for the privilege, and even then there's no tongues allowed) Craig xoxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blissxo at xxx.com Sun Oct 10 17:17:25 1999 From: Blissxo at xxx.com (Blissxo at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:17:25 EDT Subject: Sinister: being around Message-ID: <0.479af342.25321615@aol.com> lovely listmonkeys, it's been awhile, and i've been keeping up on your exciting goings-on as i've been learning about how to manipulate your minds using nothing more than simple words, pictures, and sounds. advertising, it's called, and it's the love of my life. i'm trying to minimise the role of boys in my world, you see. although i am officially known as 'boy crazy' among friends. perhaps even among enemies. tigermilk has finally grown on me to the level of twattybus and iyfs, and is threatening to surpass them as my Ultimate Belle and Sebastian Album, the album i reach for when i'm feeling all reflective and bouncy. those moods occur more often than you'd think. i've missed numerous toronto concerts lately, and i'm feeling bad about it because hey, i'm a music geek and that's got to be maintained. but what i have done, however, is visited the totally redone whiskey a go go. yes folks, that was me on friday on stage with no top on and jenteal playing with my nipples. i'll be back this next friday if any of you would like to join my fanclub. it's the cool thing to do, even though i didn't spot any boys with arab straps. and, as always, there's my webpage, http://www.geocities.com/jessicaxo (don't you love shortcuts?), detailing the mundanities of my life. so go crazy. oh, and for those of you that visit the girls on film website, there are reviews of tigermilk going on. alongside reviews of that new marky-mark/george clooney film, but hey, you know. and i'll subtly remind you of the listcrush site and my teeny number of votes (last check: one). so if you're stuck on who you should be voting for, i'm indiscriminate. mwahmwah to all of you, jessicaxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Sun Oct 10 22:14:05 1999 From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE DICKIE) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:14:05 PDT Subject: Sinister: BREATHING HAS NEVER BEEN SO EASY Message-ID: <19991010211406.25328.qmail@hotmail.com> GA GA GA GA GA THAT IS THE SORT OF THING I USED TO SAY WHEN I WAS A BABY BUT NOW I'M OLDER AND I CAN EVEN WRITE POEMS I THOUGHT I WOULD GIVE YOU ONE OF MY POEMS AS I FEEL MORE AT HOME ON THE LIST SEEEEEEEEEEE WHAT U THINK *DON'T FORGET TO FEED THE CAT GEORGE* SAFETY FIRST YOU DON'T WANT BROKEN KNEES IS THE ONLY PLUSS TO MY DISEASE OF BEDROOM DREAMS BOREDOM CREATIVE FREEDOM WHATEVER YOU CALL LONELINESS THE PHONE STILL DON'T RING ENOUGH THROWING BOOKS AT THE TV AND RADIO WRITING POEMS DYING YOUR HAIR PRETENDING YOU DON'T CARE MOMENTS OF EUPHORIA CAN ONLY COME FROM BEATING THE CAT AT SNAP MOG TURN INTO A MOOG AND TEACH ME TO PLAY KEYBOARD I WANT TO DESTROY THE WORLD OF MUSIC I WANT TO BE LOVED AND TAKEN OUT TO LUNCH OH CAT I AM ANNOYED APART FROM BEDROOM DREAMS MY LIFE IS A VOID I HAVE MANY OTHER TOOOOO MANY I LIKE TO WRITE LOVE AND SALAD GEORGETCETCETCETCETC ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sun Oct 10 23:18:05 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:18:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Number 5! You're alive!!! Message-ID: <002501bf136d$53e14b20$2ed6b0c2@default> Hello my twee companions... LOOPER I'm trying to find out what the hell is going on with the Argyll St Virgin Megastore gig. Do I need a ticket or not? Different staff have told me different things and I'm now totally confused... Anyone shed some light? A LOST LISTEE Well, I've met Heather McDonald, the American listee who is now living in Glasgow for a year. She's really a nice gal, if a little overwhelmed by the city and the price of everything over here. We saw a cassette of The Smiths for £15. Rip off or what? ERRRMMM... I spent this week searching for a weekend job in Glasgow. No success. I now have only £40 to last me until my next student loan installment in January. If any Glasgow listees know where I could find employment, could you help me out? SKITTLES Taste the rainbow. Isn't the wee mannie on top of the big rock insane? POETRY PARROT EATEN BY POETRY PTERODACTLY!!! I've watched as the poetry has spouted forth from the list, and have decided to add my own to the mixture. Shouts of 'Rubbish!' should be sent to jasonandreas at breathemail.net ----------------- A Melancholy Love Song I see we all walk through the night with a heavy burdened soul, And the path of love runs smoothly, for no-one on this Earth, When you see your true love smile those clouds just drift away, Because, deep down, we're all the same, We don't want to be alone. I suppose that it's just a part of mankind's spirit and our makeup, That we spend a great deal of time just looking for the one, That special person to fill our lives and hold us close at night, And do we deserve that love we wish? Or are we on our own? I wonder why these melancholy love songs shine so bright, Like those beautiful rainbows in a new-found lover's eyes, The bard is playing his soft and beautiful tunes upon your soul, For we all know we must find love, We feel it in our bones. When you look upon the dawn, all red and gold and green, You can see in the colours bright a love that you must seek, One day you'll find that person with those colours in their soul, Then you'll know you've found the one, The arrow to your bow. So look around my thoughtful friend, and think on what you see, Examine all those people whom you've never seen before, Look again at everyday friends, the ones you've known for years, Look close enough, they might be there, You just never know..... ---------------- STEREOLABORATORY Is anyone going to see Stereolab at the Garage in Glasgow this month? THE LUNATIC IS ON THE GRASS I *finally* got around to buying Dark Side Of The Moon today, after hearing endless stories of how great Pink Floyd were, I decided to give them a try. I must say that I love it. Very nice and I'd recommend it to anyone who hasn't heard it. p.s. anyone know how I can access track 10? ALL TOMORROW'S PINCERS Is ATP going to go ahead at a later date or not? Could someone mail me with the proper info, as I can't seem to find any mention of it anywhere..... MONTY PYTHON NIGHT Did anyone see the South Park version of the Dead Parrot sketch? Unbelievably funny. LOVE It's just not going to happen for me, is it? DID YOU READ THIS FAR DOWN??? You fool. Well done anyway. Thanks. -- Jason Andreas -- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Mon Oct 11 07:58:22 1999 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 02:58:22 -0400 Subject: Sinister: drrrrrrrrrrrrrunk possssssssssssst Message-ID: so i know it's tacky and all, but i'm drunk and since it's rare that i'm this drunk i thought i'd post. man, i'm hitting that delete key a lot. anyway, i'll start it out with some B&S content: i think i really want them to come back to the US simply so i can talk to chris geddes again and maybe have sex with him. that would be really nice. anyway, so a friend of mine who's on leave this semester at the NIH is in town for the long weekend and i went to the place where she's staying (the house she lived in on campus for the past couple years) and got drunk with her and her friends. anyway, she lives with this boy that i've been friends with since my first year here (it's now my fourth) and last year me and him got a little drunk (well, he got really drunk) and ended up having this strange conversation because i said i wanted to boff one of his friends and he was like "go for it. you're totally hot. i've considered having sex with you a few times." but he said the only thing that was stopping his pursuing me was that he had a girlfriend. anyway, i'm not so sure he has that girlfriend anymore. so i'm sitting on their back porch talking to him for like an hour and a half and i casually mention that jon and i broke up, because i wanted him to know that. anyway, the few people that were there end up leaving and it's just me, him, and my friend. so we talk for a bit, then my friend says she needs to go to bed soon and i swear it took like every ounce of willpower i have to resist staying longer to get even drunker with this kid because i knew i'd end up fooling around with him or something, and no matter how tempting that is i know i'd totally regret it because i have this massive aversion to sexual acts under the influence of just about any kind of drug, including alcohol. wow. my arms are really warm right now. must be my muscles converting the alcohol into sugar and my capillaries moving closer to the surface of my skin because alcohol does that. anyway, they're having another party tomorrow night and i think i may ask my friend if that boy is still dating that girl (i've seen him a few times this semester and no sign of the girl). but, wait! the friend that i told the boy i wanted to have sex with: i thought he might be on leave this semester but then he showed up really briefly tonight and i didn't get a chance to talk to him because we're not particularly close or anything. but i posed all cute and stuff and maybe he noticed me. maybe not. although i'm pretty sure every girl on campus has wanted to have sex with that kid, and i think most of them have (eew). but the other kid (oh fuck it, his name's seth); i don't think he remembers telling me that he wanted to have sex with me, so i don't really know how to proceed from here. he's cute and stuff but i've known him for so long . . . and i'm so desperate right now. oh well, enough of that. i'm not even sure if i'm going to send this because it's really no more than a drunken ramble and probably doesn't make any sense at all, anyway. i think i need to go to bed. this reminds me of that spring break i spent in germany. except i didn't have email then (thank god). enough of that. goodnight people. i hope honey doesn't kill me, and hope you don't think less of me. i think i'll go on irc for a while, that's always fun. -kerry "maybe if you find the time you'll make out with me, desperate me." -halo benders, "will work for food" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Mon Oct 11 09:31:34 1999 From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (Linda Kerr) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:31:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Catch him if you can... Message-ID: Hey Just heard on the radio that Mick Cooke has been designated the "48th most eligible bachelor in Scotland" by the Scotland in Sunday newspaper. Awwww Linda +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Oct 11 10:12:52 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:12:52 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Message to Pretty Message-ID: <01bf13c8$cc84b7a0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Christopher, when I got my photo taken with motorcycle ace Barry Sheene, I didn't say anything, my mate's mum did all the talking. If I remember correctly, Christopher, you always go and see Robin Williamson with your mum and dad, so if I were you, I'd get your mum to do the talking. But I'd try that "tousle tousle tousle" business first. I heard the Jarvis Cocker Looper remix. It's right up there with the Gentle Waves. More interestingly, I heard "The Indie Pop List" by Momus, which is quite funny. I strained my ears to hear mentions of you lot, but the only one I caught was The 13 o' Clock, which rings a bell from somewhere in the distant past. It is an insanely catchy song. I got the Norma Waterson album too. It's very sad, makes you cry for Freddie Mercury. The droning sound on "River Man" turns out to be a hurdy gurdy. It's the Sister Disco Purchase of the Week. Thailand news: The man-woman boxer was on telly for at least fifteen minutes. His/Her opponent kissed him /her before the bouting commenced, so he/she got really angry and hammered the fucker. I quite fancy him/her, and I bet I'm not the only one. Pop star authors: I think the problem is this - the general public perceives pop stars as silly billies and writers as clever dicks, so if one tries to do the other's job, they become a silly dick or a clever billy, and it's like a face with a wonky nose. Sister Disco PS: Nice poem, George. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.cullen at xxx.com Mon Oct 11 10:16:12 1999 From: p.cullen at xxx.com (Paula Cullen) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:16:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: re: friday nights drunken post... Message-ID: <01BF13D1.A5A7E680.p.cullen@music-control.com> "i can truly say that i am as pissed as rwo farts at this moment." i *think* i meant to say "as pissed as *two* farts". probably. paula cullen booze explosion booooze!!!! yeeeaaahh!!! "getting beer poured over your head isn't necessarily a bad thing. it's cold, it's good for your hair, and it makes you smell like a champ." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Alexandre.Tobin at xxx.nl Mon Oct 11 12:27:59 1999 From: Alexandre.Tobin at xxx.nl (Alexandre Tobin) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:27:59 +0200 Subject: Sinister: nalda again Message-ID: <19991011112324812.AAA441@www-server.ucu.uu.nl@[131.211.105.90]> Hi all, Two quick things from the extremely informal 'Stuart David Information Service' (actually nothing to do with him at all...): 1. There have been a few shiftings-around of Looper dates in support of 'Nalda Said' next week... The updates are at http:www.postmodern.co.uk. 2. Also, only four days left to enter the competition for your free copy. The same URL applies, and I've received about twenty answers so far. Some are extremely cheeky, you bastards (Like I expected anything else.)! I just received the books in the mail, and they look very cool, so give it a shot. Take care, and cheers, Alex -++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++- -+++ alex tobin -+++ postbus 81-353 -+++ 3508 bh utrecht -+++ the netherlands -+++ -+++ phone +31.6.29208560 -+++ e-mail alex at pulped.co.uk -+++ website http://www.pulped.co.uk -+++ website http://www.postmodern.co.uk -+++ website http://www.popjourno.com -++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Alexandre.Tobin at xxx.nl Mon Oct 11 12:45:45 1999 From: Alexandre.Tobin at xxx.nl (Alexandre Tobin) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:45:45 +0200 Subject: Sinister: nalda yet again Message-ID: <19991011114110718.AAC439@www-server.ucu.uu.nl@[131.211.105.90]> Sorry, but I forgot to add the '//' part in the URL, so it didn't work. Here is the link for the 'Nalda Said' info... http://www.postmodern.co.uk Thanks again, Alex -++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++- -+++ alex tobin -+++ postbus 81-353 -+++ 3508 bh utrecht -+++ the netherlands -+++ -+++ phone +31.6.29208560 -+++ e-mail alex at pulped.co.uk -+++ website http://www.pulped.co.uk -+++ website http://www.postmodern.co.uk -+++ website http://www.popjourno.com -++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Mon Oct 11 13:43:50 1999 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:43:50 BST Subject: Sinister: sinister:romance isn't dead yet Message-ID: <19991011124351.30089.qmail@hotmail.com> Around last Valentine's day an envelope was delivered to the student house I live in. It was addressed to someone who obviously had lived there some years ago. We were used to such mail and usually returned it to sender. However there was no return address on this envelope. Furthermore, there was a tape in this envelope. We speculated upon what it could be and laughed at the suggestion that it could be Belle and Sebastian. As I recall, we decided it was probably Bon Jovi. Curiousity overcame us by this stage and we opened the letter (in blatant disregard for the law). There was a tape and a number of pink cut-out letters that appeared to make a girls name. we stuck the tape on and sat in astonishment as the first line came rolling out of the speakers "He had a stroke at the age of 24...". We had just opened the most romantic valentine's present ever. I don't know who the tape was intended for other than someone called James and don't know who it was from but I'd like to think that they got in contact eventually. Anyway that's my random Belle and Sebastain story. Paul ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From igh1 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 11 13:50:40 1999 From: igh1 at xxx.uk (igh1) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:50:40 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: He said Tigermilk costs 300 pounds, our survey said . . . In-Reply-To: <19991011124351.30089.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Bonkers, bit of B&S content for once . . . I've just been quoted 300 squid for Tigermilk (which the guy says is in mint condition). Does anyone know if this is a fair price?? Cheers, btw please let me know as soon as possible cos I've got to phone him quite soon to let him know whether I interested, thanks again, I'll go now, cheerio, IAn. On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:43:50 BST Paul Arathoon wrote: > Around last Valentine's day an envelope was delivered to the student house I > live in. It was addressed to someone who obviously had lived there some > years ago. We were used to such mail and usually returned > it to sender. However there was no return address on this envelope. > Furthermore, there was a tape in this envelope. We speculated upon what it > could be and laughed at the suggestion that it could be Belle and Sebastian. > As I recall, we decided it was probably Bon Jovi. > Curiousity overcame us by this stage and we opened the letter (in blatant > disregard for the law). There was a tape and a number of pink cut-out > letters that appeared to make a girls name. we stuck the tape on and sat in > astonishment as the first line came rolling out of the speakers "He had a > stroke at the age of 24...". We had just opened the > most romantic valentine's present ever. I don't know who the tape was > intended for other than someone called James and don't know who it was > from but I'd like to think that they got in contact eventually. > Anyway that's my random Belle and Sebastain story. > > Paul > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ *********************** Ian Hatcher igh1 at ukc.ac.uk rutherford jcc ents#1 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.waggner at xxx.net Mon Oct 11 15:48:15 1999 From: m.waggner at xxx.net (Michele Waggner) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:48:15 -0400 Subject: Sinister: What else have you got to do, really? Message-ID: <004901bf13f7$a8003920$43aa4f0c@amstech> UK Sinisterines.... I'm passing on some info for those of you looking to maybe get out of your houses/rooms this week. As I wrote awhile back, some homies from my area, The Butterflies of Love, are making their way over to your neck of the woods and they're worth a listen... I saw them do an in-store last week and it was really quite good. This is an update of their UK plans as previously posted, because there have been some changes. The October 17 gig supporting Marine Research has been cancelled because the Butterflies have gotten a Peel thing and decided to do that instead. But they will get a chance to play with Amelia (get your minds out of the gutter) on Oct. 15 as she'll be on keyboards with Sportique at the Bull and Gate. October 14, Nottingham, Bunker's Hill -- with Airport Girl and Twinkie. October 15, London, Bull and Gate -- with Mark 700, Action Time and Sportique. October 16, London, The Scala -- with Cato, the Smith Garrett Band, Airport Girl, Spraydog, the Family Way, Comet Gain, Birdie (St. Etienne backup singer), Rosita (two of those Kenickie girls), Spearmint and Quickspace. The Butterflies' got a good review in NME last week, in that sort of odd way they give good reviews. Melody Maker was not so kind, but what the hell do they know? The records are released on the Secret 7 label here in the US and on Fortuna Pop in the UK. So, see them if you get a chance... and say hello to my friend Chris Razz who'll be there with them. He'll be the one ... well, I dunno. He might be looking like he's the manager. See if you can find him. Tell him I sent this. B&S Content? Chris Razz first played IYFS for me, gave me a really good clear tape of Tigermilk back in the analog days, wrapped in Spice Girls paper if I recall correctly... and he likes the Gentle Waves for some bizarre reason. Don't hold it against him, he's nice and has good taste musically, really. --michele who didn't even get a free single for doing this +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From K992837 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 11 19:21:45 1999 From: K992837 at xxx.uk (Sarah Clarke) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:21:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bring it all back Now! Message-ID: <199910111825.MAA15040@turtle.esosoft.net> Moshi-Moshi Sinister-san, Well spank my Pop Monkey! What a productive time I've having at Uni. Ha ha! I mean, what a productive time I have at the weekends when I run away from the steaming pile of CRAPNESS that is Kingston into the promiscuous arms of Lunding Town. Kingston is like Preston, but without the blood sweat and tears and WITH Fucking Cockney Wankers. Yuuurrgh! However, I have won myself a nice semi-scoustic guitar. Vic Godard popped round my lovely "woom" to deliver it in person after I won it off him in a game of strip poker after his affair at Dingwalls. One fact in there is a lie. But the truth remains that VIC GODARD CAME ROUND TO MY HOUSE and gave me his guitar! Touched! By the hands of VicGodard&EdwynCollins! As New Order didn't sing, but they would've done, if they were me. Jason Andreas seems to live in Glasgow, you know. Hard to believe but its true. Lots of people live in Glasgow... And also, last night whilst watching Mary Shellys Frankenstein on the telly - at one point they were running round the gardens shouting "Willy! Willy"! "Its not funny anymore Willy!" Ah but I beg to differ, it IS still funny and it is continuing to amuse me today. Kenneth Branagagahahagah knows nowt about high and sophisticated yumour like wot I do. Someones subject line was that its easy to fall in love. I don't think it is though. Is that just me? I'm with Stuart on the ol' "don't love anyone" juice. Unfair. I don't think I've fallen in love with anyone. People have told me that they loved me and I felt repulsed by saying it back. I certainly felt nothing of the sort. I think that there are people who find it easy to say "i love you" and probably do genuinely think they are in love, whereas I'm with the cynical bastards in the corner with our "don't love anyone" juice. Now, I used to think this was good. In a way I still do - as I don't want to lose my heart to just anyone concerning what could be just a mere bagatelle on my own/their part, but does that make me cold and unfeeling? You see I don't know this "love" feeling. I remember always using to say - "Oh, I just wish I had someone who loved me" when I felt alone. Then I got someone, and I realised it wasn't enough. Its got to be two sided. I have to fall in love. And I haven't! And this makes me full of righteous rage! Is my current crush "love"? Its much more fun than not having a crush, for sure. I'll just get Yukari Fresh to write a disco- songle about it and that will make it a lot more fun. I love Yukari Fresh! Speaking of which, I have started learning Japanese. Sarah-san wa kawaii desu! I think that should mean "sarah is cute", but I've probably just said I need a poo. Or something like that. Halt! Love Sarah xx PS - I think I will go to Smile. PPS - I also think I'll have to find a strawberry milky way. PPPS - Don't whinge about being at Cambridge Marcus, it'll let you into the old boys network and be very rich. It'll be worth it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From giita at xxx.com Mon Oct 11 20:31:03 1999 From: giita at xxx.com (Giita .) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:31:03 GMT Subject: Sinister: lovely snowdrops Message-ID: <19991011193109.36439.qmail@hotmail.com> An autumn day. I walked on a road full of sparkling glitter, frozen water on asphalt. I looked up and saw mountain peeks covered in snow. I was happy. Then I was utterly destroyed by a letter my flying penguin brought me. Tears and sadness overcame me...why had this happened? On my way home a snowman gave me a smile..I wondered why...what a strange look he gave me.. On my doorstep there was a note . It said to follow the path of candlelit leaves and at the end you will find the love that fell. And so I walked down the winding path that was sprinkled with candlelit leaves and felt a curious excitement in my belly. I reached the end. An enlarged bee was there. No words were exchanged. Silently he gave me a parcel of Joy, wrapped in a box of strawberries. Joyous tear drops escaped my eyes. The secret I so longed to know was now revealed to me. I walked home humming a smiling tune.. The bird that was disguised as a poetry parrot was handed to me. Here is a poem I found by Federico Garc�a Lorca. I think the Spanish version looks nicer.. ------------------------------------- CANCION Por las ramas del laurel vi dos palomas oscuras. La una era el sol la otra la luna. Vecinitas, les d�je. D�nde est� mi sepultura? En mi cola, dijo el sol. En mi garganta, dijo la luna. Y yo que estaba caminando con la tierra a la cintura vi dos �guilas de m�rmol y una muchacha desnuda. La una era la otra y la muchacha era ninguna. Aguilitas, les dije, D�nde est� mi sepultura? En mi cola, dijo el sol. En mi garganta, dijo la luna. Por las ramas del cerezo vi dos palomas desnudas. La una era la otra y las dos eran ninguna. SONG In the laurel branches, I spied two dark doves. The one was the sun; the other, the moon. Little neighbor ladies, I said: O where lies my tomb? In my tail, said the sun. In my throat, said the moon. And I, who was walking with the earth to my waist, spied two eagles of marble and a naked young girl. The one was the other, and the girl was neither. Little eagles, I said to them: O where lies my tomb? In my tail, said the sun. In my throat, said the moon. In the cherry tree branches, I spied two naked doves. The one was the other, and both were neither one ----------------------------------------- The parrot now flies on to Neil Krajewski�s head.. Love & hugs, XXX @->-- Giita ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk Mon Oct 11 20:00:41 1999 From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (HerDivineShadow) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:00:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: dont bring flowers, take a chance, on some graves you should dance. Message-ID: <017101bf142b$ab4d91c0$5427883e@anne666theasylum> hello sinister how r we all feeling then? good i hope. im feeling... well i am off on my october break. no school for a week. yay. :| b&s stories? i have 1. i dont know if its true or not, this guy i know told me. basically he has a friend who is in a band, and he was playing in a place where b&s used to play. some guy came up to him and asked him if he ever played (or something like that) b&s, and he said naw their shite. and yes youve guessed it that guy was stuart murdoch. anyway i dont know if it is true. but its not my story so what the hell. your friend always me, myself and everyone else the individual formerly known as sweetie. xox ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Life isn't a rehearsal, it's for real. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Mon Oct 11 13:40:11 1999 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:40:11 -0400 Subject: Sinister: animal x! hot potato! References: <19991011193109.36439.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3801DAAB.ED049EA9@utoronto.ca> anyone lucky enough to be in toronto today got themselves one honey of a fall day, that is for sure. boy was it nice. it was so nice it almost put me in a bad mood. my mum and i went to the zoo today. regardless of what you may think about imprisoning animals it _is_ a nice place to go every so often. the sheer variety of forms and shapes and things and ways that nature gets away with are constantly astounding. as a result i want a pet wombat. also, there were these birds right near the front of the zoo, hyacintine mackaws or something who were beautiful shades of blue and had incredibly agile tongues and beaks. thhey were a joy to watch, but they made the most hellish sound. it was so miserable sounding that it made the hairs stand up on the back of my neck. they didn't really seem unhappy, they just seemed to like making that sound. i thought of the poetry parrot (although i realize that these were mackaws) and smiled to myself. i must confess i don't really like poetry. too many people around me crank out volumes of the stuff and i have to go to readings because they're nice people and they deserve the support but when they start talking i just have to wear big sweaters to cover the cringing....although there are gems every now and again. the last reading i was at was uniformly dismal but one fellow did this rousing number which got my blood a flowin'. he would go on for a bit about how some female was rejecting his advances and when it was his turn, in the poem that was, to offer the reasons for her taking him into her heart he would yell: but I HAVE A LOVE THE SIZE OF LOS ANGELES!!! and after a while everyone yelled it along with him because we knew what was coming. it was fun. it rained that day and i ate an entire bag of that cheddar popcorn, so that my mouth would be full and i'd have an excuse not to lie to my friends about what i thought of their poetry. good evening (or morning or afternoon or something) steven kado +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Tue Oct 12 18:23:57 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 13:23:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Ida Lupino Message-ID: <199910121324_MC2-88B6-34AA@compuserve.com> Hi There, Nalda Said: replete with anagrammatical possibilities, I'm sure. Asian, sad, land & laid are all lurking in there, but I can't make anything better than Dial A Nads yet. Dropped into Virgin today to pick up my tickets for the Looper in-store on Monday, & also got a few spares. I don't know how sought-after these will be, but any member of the Sinister masseeev who is definitely going but is uncertain of being able to obtain tickets please drop me a line & I'll post them to you. Alternatively we can arrange to meet on Monday & I'll pass them on then. Starry: visited sunny Lancashire recently & scoffed a barm & a coffee in the Warton Sandwich Bar in your honour. Thai Fax: +66 (931) 987654 or Thailand is sending 1,580 troops to participate in the International Forces East Timor peacekeeping operation, (forming the second largest military contingent behind Australia,) in the first deployment of the Thai military abroad for an operation since the Vietnam War. I like the idea of Thai Peacekeepers. Regards, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jp.champagne at xxx.ca Tue Oct 12 19:43:43 1999 From: jp.champagne at xxx.ca (jp.champagne at xxx.ca) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 14:43:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: New to the parts... Message-ID: Hi all, I'm a new one to this town and wanted to say "hi." I've a mailing-list habit that has probably been done n number of times before, but I'm always interested in checking out what people are listening to (and really curious to see how B&S overlap with others). I'll get things started: 1) B&S. I guess that's no shocker. Really disappointed when I showed up to the Opera House last winter here in Toronto, only to see "Show cancelled." 2) There was Smiths' talk some time back - big guns in my books. 3) Billy Bragg fans out there? 4) Tortoise and the extended Thrill Jockey offsprings (Isotope 217, Brokeback, Pullman, Directions in Music) - plus BIG fix on the Sea and Cake (the Sam Prekop album is also really sharp - Archer Prewitt's leave something to be desired, tho). 5) More Thrill Jockey - Trans Am. 6) Mogwai are decent. Recent show at the Horseshoe was a bit tedious at times. 7) Lots of indie rock staples: Archers of Loaf (plus Barry Black - Eric Bachmann did a solo set here last year at the Horseshoe, and it was just beautiful, plus he's playing with Superchunk at the end of the month), GBV, Yo La Tengo, Superchunk, et al..... 8) Trashcan Sinatras - haven't found too many other fans. I just bought the Japanese re-release of "Cake" for $48. Fuck, that's tough on the books, but have you heard Drunken Chorus and Useless? Point finale. 9) Just recently picked up Arab Strap's Philaphobia. Still digesting, but tastes pretty good so far. I guess the lyrics are sorta honest... 10) DJ Shadow. Done. 11) Rachel's, although I've still yet to really get a firm hold on Selenography despite having bought it ages ago. 12) A band whose praises I can't sing enough: Godspeed You Black Emperor! Caught them a short while back, and it was astounding. 13) Anything Will Oldham touches. I guess that's a start. In retrospect, such postings seem a little juvenile, but then again, I've never once contended that I possess any level of maturity. And there it is. JPMFC P.S. How about a useless thread: where is the oddest place you've found yourself listening to B&S? For me, it's barreling down 100's of kilometers of horrible dirt road in a beat-up Land Rover in Uganda. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From k.watson at xxx.uk Tue Oct 12 20:28:02 1999 From: k.watson at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:28:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Help me make loads of money Message-ID: Hello all you people - got a quick message for you chaps. We're running a club in Glasgow (Glasgow's first REAL MUSIC night). It's called "In Tune" and it will feature the DJ-ing "talents" of myself, Claire Timmins, Mick and Alasdair Cooke (not Alasdair from the list, but Mick (48) Cooke's Brother). It's at the 13th note Cafe on King Street in Glasgow, famously thought to be owned by Bis - who rip the "kids" off by selling fanzines allegedly, at 9:00 till 12:00 this Friday. Inspired by Bis's alleged activity, we plan to fleece everyone who enters by the sum of 1 pound sterling, which we'll use to get a taxi back home again after the club, leaving all the poor kids to freeze to death in the Glasgow night. We're gonna be playing any sort of music really, just anything that's good, and if it goes down well, we'll do another night. It's supposed to just be like a great big party. Anyone's welcome to come along and pay a pound, please do. Anyhow, enough of that rampant capitalism, sorry I haven't posted to the list for bloody ages, things used to be really relaxed in attitude at work, but they're not now I'm afraid to say and I can't really post from work. Nice to see Sarah mentioning monkeys whom I still believe are the new rock and roll - to back this up, this months Viz (which is a comic, and as we all well know, comedy is the old new rock and roll) contains an advert for Monkey Fags, which contains 0.01% Nicotine, and 3.6% Banana! - rock and roll. Peter, lovely to hear your Barry Sheene exploits. I once met Fish - he was funny, he put this really fake broad Scottish accent on so as to appear harder than he actually is. Actually, that reminds me, may have said this one before but, my old flatmate met Fish on Victoria Street in Edinburgh once, he said "Oh, it's Fish", and Fish went "Fuck off". I once met Chancer from City Lights in the pub too, I went "Hey - it's Gerard Kelly, you're the funny man, from the telly" and he went "No, it's Andy Gray". Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bas at xxx.uk Tue Oct 12 21:52:14 1999 From: bas at xxx.uk (Vince Russell) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 21:52:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The gas man and the inflatable cod References: <62WefCASwd$3EwIZ@send.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <003201bf14f4$d8245a20$2351fea9@vince> Well hello everyone, The exploits of Steve will live on, I have evidence that he still lives, great news huh? To continue the saga, Steve was last seen in a club in Fulham, having a really great time I have to add, I woke the next day with no sign of my piscean friend anywhere, so I presumed him dead, I have been in mourning ever since. And then came a phone call, late last night, now I know what your going to say and I won't worry because I've translated Steve's transcript in English, Steve : Hi is Vince there? Vince : Speaking S : Hi Vince, it's Steve! V : Steve? Is this some sort of joke? S : No, it's me Steve the Fish V : I thought you'd...you know...passed on S : No no, when you left I was getting passionate with a girl called Susie from Worcester V : What? S : She was really nice...and...well...we've decided to get married and tour the world V : WHAT!!!! S : I'm sorry if this is a bit of a shock to you, but... V : Bloody right it's a shock, you're a fish! S : Racist bastard! V : What? How am I racist? S : Well, you said I couldn't travel the world because i'm a fish! V : An inflatable fish I might add S : Look, I called to see if you were all right with this but I can see i'm wasting my... V : Steve, Steve, look, i'm sorry, i'm just really surprised, and i'll like...you know...miss you S : I'll be back, and don't worry i'll write to you V : When do you leave? S : Tonight V : Take care Steve, say Hi to Susie for me S : Bye Vince. V : Bye Steve So Steve has gone, but has not died, to all those on the list who live outside the UK, if you see Steve say Hi from me, he's a good guy, and according to Steve's brother, Jonathan, Susie's a great girl also. And me? i'll be fine, I have my eye on a very nice small plastic hedgehog called Andrea. Bye for now, Vince. ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin Robinson To: Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 12:57 PM Subject: Sinister: The gas man and the inflatable cod > Dear all, > > I'm afraid I bring bad news to all those admirers and followers of Steve > the inflatable fish. He is missing presumed dead after having several > drinks and then being passed round the dancefloor, a bit like Owen Meany > in Sunday school, of a small club in trendy Fulham. Rumours of an > inflatable Crimewatch special, as of yet, are unfounded. The Wake is > presently being delayed in case his deflated remains are found. The > saddest part of it all is that I never got the chance to tell him that I > loved him really. > > Anyway, at the absence of anything constructive to say and not wishing > to extend the heated Richard Stilgoe debate to the highlights of the > career of the amusingly spectacled Cristopher Biggins I shall just > continue pointlessly and say: I think Mr Casarotto's spiel on Mr Ken > Kesey was more than a bit harsh > > >What a grade A cunt that Ken > >Kesey must be! And Pete's letter just made me spit bile - his account > of > >Kesey's experiments is all the evidence I need for the introduction of > >compulsory lobotomies for anyone who thinks any thoughts they have > while > >tripping are worth foisting on anyone else. Very big and clever you sad > old > >men. > > Wasn't Kesey was paid by the American government to take LSD? As they > had no idea what effect it had. He then, being of an open mind, began > experimenting with it and passing it on to all his mates. LSD had no > history at this point, so they weren't to know that it would be > responsible for a load of hippies walking round going "Wow man!". So in > conclusion everything is the fault of the American government, quelle > surprise, and it is probably they who are the "grade A cunt"'s. > > Aren't gassy men a pain? The bloke came to replace the pump on my > central heating yesterday and then in the evening I get water coming > through the kitchen. Apparently he damaged the gas cylinder making it > leak, so they drained that and now have to replace to it. Consequently I > have no hot water and the only thing heated in my abode was the > conversation I had with the gas board to get it fixed quickly. What a > bunch of "grade A cunt"'s they are (I can use this nasty word all the > time now and just say I'm quoting that foul mouthed fouler Casarotto). > Anyway can I start a new list of recommended domestic heating service > providers? Go electric kids you won't regret it. > > Time to conclude this tedium as there's a pint with my name on it. > > Te ra, > > Martin > > ear confection recordings > (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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Message-ID: i'm in a computer lab at school, writing a paper and listening to stevie wonder, innervisions cd and damn if it's not fucking awesome. stevie rocks, he plays all the instruments on a bunch of the songs. and he's blind. damn. i mean, i knew he was blind, and i knew he was cool, but all i heard before was superstition, an awesome song, but i thought that it might just be his best and the rest might not be too great. but heck, he proved me an ignorant fool, because this whole cd is fantabulous. just as 3...6..9 seconds of light is fantabulous. just as my mom's apple pie is fantabulous. just as a new pair of socks is fantabulous. just as the end of this e is fantabulous. matthew francis dowgert +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tew at xxx.net Wed Oct 13 03:18:29 1999 From: tew at xxx.net (Ted Whalen) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 21:18:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: today's special Message-ID: <19991012211829.A258@wish.psych.nwu.edu> This message is by way of introduction. I think perhaps a summary of the events of this weekend will serve as a primer to my life and the state that I'm in. Saturday, as I was on my way to a party thrown by people I don't especially like, I stopped at the local bar for a bite and a pint. It seems like everyone at the bar conspired to make me staggeringly drunk. I stumbled down to the party, but was forced to make an over-hasty exit due to alcohol-induced illness. Sadly, (and here is the B&S content) I had to leave before I could sway in the style of the truly rhythmless to 'We Rule the School.' It was my only musical request at a party where the theme was 'High School Homecoming'. I was not elected king. I lost my cranberry sweater vest on the way home. Sunday I spent mainly in bed, but ventured out in the late afternoon to visit Ikea with my roommate. We bought a rug, and once at home, I swept and washed the floors in celebration of its arrival. I then commuted via train into work. I worked so late that the trains had stopped running when I was ready to leave. I spent the night in bed with my ex-girlfriend, fighting platonically over the covers. Surmise what you will about my life, but feel free to email me your inferences. My name is Ted and I live in Chicago. tew -- And it says "I burn." Ted Whalen - tew at introvert.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shoegazer1999 at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 04:45:03 1999 From: shoegazer1999 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Gabriela=20Sampaio?=) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: My bip bopping days ain't over... Message-ID: <19991013034503.2637.rocketmail@web1302.mail.yahoo.com> Dear listees... It's been so long since I posted last that I am not sure how to do it again....hehe I just wanted to share a moment of happiness with you... I played as a DJ last Sunday and I included "she's losing it" and gentle waves' "weathershow" in my playlist and I was delighted to see everybody on the dancefloor!! Isn't it great? XXX gabi ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pixiemeat2 at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 08:26:03 1999 From: pixiemeat2 at xxx.com (Helen) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:26:03 GMT Subject: Sinister: makes no difference who you are... Message-ID: <19991013072604.30005.qmail@hotmail.com> I saw Mercury Rev on the tele (Oz TV... because I live with the wizard) the other night and they did (quite a fine) cover of 'when you wish upon a star'. And a Dylan cover as well, He was a friend (of mine?). Interesting. Does covering a Disney song make you less cool? Because I'm sure it has been done many times before. (or even covering Bob Dylan, (although almost every band has done that), to those Dylan haters out there, although I like the man myself). (I think I am the winner of how many brackets you can use in a paragraph) Maybe it makes you more cool, like a 'I don't give a stuff about coolness' cool. Soon we'll have B&S covering the theme from Pocahontas and the Beta band doing a 6 minute experimental piece of Beauty and the Beast. But is there a ''I don't give a stuff about coolness' cool' cool. And if so where does it stop? Is there a limit to what is anti-cool and therefore 'hip', as opposed to things that are so not hip that there is no way that they can become cool. Don't worry I don't understand that sentence very much either. Personally I really don't give a stuff, because: 1) coolness, non-coolness it's all relative 2) I quite liked Pinocchio anyway 3) and lastly because I'm taking the piss out of those people and establishments who like to draw lines in the fickle world of entertainment, (I mean by saying this band is cool, but that band isn't, they make it such a thin line when really there isn't one at all. Because as soon as you draw a line in the sands of entertainment, then a wave of popular opinion comes in and washes it away and you have to start again.... now you see why I never did English because my metaphors are crap. Ha.) but what I can tell you for certain is that I spend way too much time in transit every day and have nothing to do except wonder and laugh at stupid shit like this. Helen ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Wed Oct 13 10:49:19 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:49:19 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Poesia eres tu Message-ID: Press articles and reviews based on celebrities is going too far.One cannot open a so-called serious paper without finding Steve Trousse and Tara'shenanigans in their pages, everyday.And in the end I don't know if he was stripping in front of pubescent princes or she was slagged off because of her lyrical taste.Media just confuse my waif-like mind. All I could really 'absorb' from poetry and lyrics later scandal, it was that Deborah Whoever,feature writer of the year,fancied Andrew Motion because of his posh navy blue coat.Fair enough.After my pleasant reading of some verses in my mother tongue sent by lovely Giita ( I want to go to Iceland more than ever,after my housemate's holidays ...!!!),might I add humbly my two pences to the discussion???Language makes a radical difference.Try to translate anything being true poetry (even something painted by furious demonstrators on a wall)and it would get irreversebly damaged somehow. And sorry for being so conventional,but I consider 'angels' second position and even 'Imagine' first position slightly embarrasing,being the most embarrasing of it all the somehow official opinion of 'Bohemian Rapsody' should have made it much better! 70's Who,that classical of this list: I ignore if Mr Miller would know about Houston Party Records, the recently founded label managed by Jaume from Parkinson DC in Barna, and so baptised after the orgiastic bash organised by the WHo during some American tour or so.According to the manager, that party simbolised all the rock mythology.Very deep.Especially for a power pop label owned by Posies' best chums. Once again, anyone up for Airport Girl and Butterflies of Love tomorrow night in NOttingham? Mail me privately. xxxx Arantxa PS I had never written before in any message 'mail me privately'.It sounds so naughty. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 11:55:18 1999 From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE DICKIE) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 03:55:18 PDT Subject: Sinister: I'M DEAD ART Message-ID: <19991013105518.51239.qmail@hotmail.com> WHEN YOU CAN'T SEE THE POINT TO ANYTHING YOU HAVE NO POINT TO MAKE G ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Wed Oct 13 12:01:00 1999 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:01:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I shot the sheriff... but 'e was a stealin' me apples! In-Reply-To: <19991013072604.30005.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Helen wrote: > I saw Mercury Rev on the tele (Oz TV... because I live with the wizard) the > other night and they did (quite a fine) cover of 'when you wish upon a > star'. And a Dylan cover as well, He was a friend (of mine?). > Interesting. Does covering a Disney song make you less cool? I once travelled to Boston, England in a little car, with my American friend, listening to his greatest hits tape. He was from California, USA, and lived out of a rucksack, and as such had only brought this one tape with him. It was a mixture of Bruce Springsteen and Disney Classics, and he sang along to it all the way. Um, this is just an anecdote really, I've just realised it doesn't actually have a point. On the way we passed a town called Elton and we wished that John had come cos it would have made a funny photo. I got some tickets for Nalda Said in Nottingham yesterday and the girl behind the counter said something to the effect that we didn't really need them because no-one was going. She was a moody tart, though. I think she'd missed her vocation in the fish and chip shop. Have I ever said how I used to think it was my vocation to be a vicar? Does anyone else think that people are really made to do certain jobs and mostly choose the wrong ones? I do. It's like hands and gloves. I bought some gloves and a hat from an honest market trader last week, after he convinced me that they were the finest quality, and selling like hot cakes, guv'nor. The hat was quite nice, so I bought them. When I got home I found I had been flogged two left-handed gloves! Honest market trader, my arse! So now I don't like the hat so much either because it brings back ugly memories of the gloves. Steve wrote: > anyone lucky enough to be in toronto today got themselves one > honey of a fall day, that is for sure. boy was it nice. Gee, Steve, that's the most American sentence I've ever seen. Sarah-san wa kawaii desu. Whatever this means, I think it's probably appropriate. Oi! Gimme back me apples! Robin xxx PS: This email might be full of strange codes at the beginning and the end. If it is, it's not my fault. We've been given a new email programme and I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tjl at xxx.uk Wed Oct 13 11:03:56 1999 From: tjl at xxx.uk (Tim) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 11:03:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: spicy chicken curry? References: <199910121844.MAA08218@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: <000701bf156a$f62ca1a0$070ae392@tjl> Well this'll be only the second or third time I've posted, and I'm not really sure why I'm posting now, but as I'm not at work and I've had the time to read all the emails for once, I thought I'd just waffle for a bit. No, it is my third time I've posted I'm sure. The second time was to see if anyone had recorded a live performance by Teenage Fanclub on the evening session, and some delightful person had done. Nice girl. Can't remember her name though. Oops. B and S content: Hmm.....not sure on this one, but I was thinking only yesterday that I don't really know many people who like Belle and Sebastien apart from people on the internet. Well, maybe not quite true....a couple of people at work do, but these are odd scary people who live in like underground tunnels. But I did manage to convert my girlfriend to them. Well, to If You're Feeling Sinister and Tigermilk anyway, as TBWTAS didn't go down too well. It was a bit of a struggle mind, as I had to make her leave her Gabrielle and Whitney Houston cd's alone for a bit. I'm not happy now though, as she's nicked Grand Prix and HMS Fable off me, and doesn't want to give them back, so I have to listen to them round her house. She did say I could take the Marion cd back though. An acquired taste no doubt. But she did buy me The La's album, and I have her cuddly gorilla. All is not lost. Lucksmiths albums: I now have some, and they are very good. Don't think anything else needs to be said about these. Can anyone help me with trying to find some stuff by Out Of My Hair? I've only heard two singles (Get Back In The Groove Again and Mr Jones) and quite liked them, but can't find anything by them anywhere. I still like Local Boy In The Photograph by The Stereophonics. Inbetween the munching on pot noodles and such like on a break, a few of us were struggling to work out who was cooler. On the on hand there was The Fonz...Aaiiiieeee, and then there was Hannibal from the A Team taking the cigar out of his mouth and saying 'I love it when a plan comes together'. Due to this I have been struggling to sleep over the last few days. Either that or I haven't really gone to bed. Anyway Tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 13:58:37 1999 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael Barrett) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:58:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: hey all! References: <19991013123054.8317.qmail@rsinternet.com> Message-ID: <001c01bf157a$ab2f7230$7336c22b@BROADCAST> I think this was meant for all of us... ----- Original Message ----- From: Shelly P To: Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:30 PM Subject: hey all! > just wanted to pass on a good belle and sebastian link... > > it's for a rare mp3. does anyone know when this was recorded? > > > http://www.usounds.com/daily.htm > > enjoy! > > shelly p > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Wed Oct 13 14:21:13 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:21:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Is poetry P!A!P!? Message-ID: <80256809.00495FAB.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Keith wrote some stuff about a great big party at the 13th Note this Friday for people who like REAL MUSIC. Sounds like the new Knebworth. I can't wait! I'm going to Glasgow for a conference this weekend you see, and was wondering what to do with myself. Now I know. Helen was wondering about what kind of cool it was to cover a Disney song. Well, I don't think it's cool of the 'I don't give a stuff about coolness' variety. Maybe I think too much about these things, but I think if there was a time for 'serious artists' covering Disney songs being cool, it was several years ago. There was a compilation called 'Stay Awake' that came out in about 1989, which is a bit patchy but has some real gems and manages to hang together pretty well as a whole. Sinead O Connor heavy breathes her way through 'Someday My Prince Will Come', Tom Waits turns 'Heigh Ho' into an portentous protest song, and Ringo Starr rounds things off in a kind of White Album 'Goodnight' way with 'When You Wish Upon A Star'. It's also got Natalie Merchant, the Replacements and Los Lobos on it. And lots of others - I must dig it out when I get home. *Anyway* the point is, it might not have reached covering Abba proportions, but I don't think covering Disney songs for 'ooh - aren't we unconcerned about what's cool' kudos (props?) really cuts it. Too obvious. Mind you, covering Abba might be cool in a new 'look, surely we've got over the kitch thing by now - this is just a brilliant song and we want to sing it' way. In other new, for those who are confused by all this talk of M. Petits Pantalons in the papers, here's the story. There's been a fair bit of blathering in the media of late because the Poetry Society's National Poetry Day had a poll of 'the nation's favourite pop lyric' as one of its strands. 'Imagine' won, prompting Peter Hitchens to point out that people can't really have listened to the words properly because the utopia it describes sounds to him like 'bloody Soviet Russia'. Anyway, in his capacity as hip-to-the-kids spokesperson at the Poetry Society, Stevie has been wheeled out to address the public on a few occasions. For example, in last Thursday's Independent, he mewled as follows: 07 Oct 1999 Right of Reply: The co-editor of 'The Message: crossing the tracks between poetry and pop' replies to David Lister's criticisms of comparisons between pop lyrics and poetry: The Independent By STEPHEN TROUSSE DAVID LISTER recently rose above the 'postmodern jumble' of debate around this year's National Poetry Day, and re-asserted critical standards with the suggestion: 'Steady on, chaps, some of those Oasis lyrics are a bit ropey, aren't they?' Maybe it's the function of the columnist to reduce a complex set of ideas to a quick gag and a bit of moral posturing. But I can't remember anyone ever suggesting that, say, the Eiffel 65 single should be put on the English A-level syllabus alongside Carol Ann Duffy. In fact, part of the point of choosing the theme of this year's National Poetry Day was to open up a debate that went beyond the tired old face-off between Dylan and Keats or Percy and Pete Shelley. If the notion of the lyric has historical ambiguity, what do the two forms have to learn from each other today? Should we dismiss song lyrics as juvenile doggerel? I have been co-editing a Poetry Society publication mulling over the whole relationship between poetry and pop, and the issues are far richer than I had imagined. Lister suggests that poets are deluding themselves by claiming pop stars as brothers and sisters. But for those of us who are curious about the life of language and the pulse of culture, it seems perfectly sensible to consider the new Magnetic Fields CD in the context of New York School poetry. For Lister, who seems to have given up on pop music around 1972, this may seem to be a postmodern jumble. But maybe the real issue here is who gets to police the borders between high and low culture. Marc Bolan once said that 'the pop song should be a spell'. A lot of the time it doesn't even give us cheap magic. But if there's one thing this National Poetry Day has shown, it's that the form still has the capacity to infuriate and delight and start arguments. IND Comment 2 The Independent Copyright (C) Newspaper Publishing Plc, 1988-1997 See how casually the prankster manages to slip a gratuitous reference to the Magnetic Fields into a national newspaper! Personally, I think it's high time we got around to considering Belle & Sebastian in the context of Glasgow School poetry. Or Playgroup poetry. Sadly, Stevie then got a bit a kicking from Charlotte Raven in her weekly column in Tuesday's Guardian. I think she pictures him as a bit of a precious poetry ponce with a perpetual sniffle. Which he isn't, of course. 'How Dylan hoaxed the poets' On pop and the profound Charlotte Raven Tuesday October 12, 1999 A great many girls must have voted in last weekend's BBC poll to find the nation's favourite song lyric. I was surprised by the results, announced on Saturday, because women tend to think that the kind of music they like is, by definition, crap and are therefore inclined to leave the qualitative assessments to the "people who know better" - ie men. This self-denying ordinance has given men the freedom to define the classic song. List after tedious list is produced without reference to pop's primary consumers - a fact which might go some way to explaining why profundity rather than pleasure is the sine qua non of a classic, and why a song that prompts website discussions about its meaning is likely to win hands down over something that wears its significance more lightly. There are numerous websites devoted to Bohemian Rhapsody. Almost 25 years after the song's release, people are swapping theses on the origins of "scaramouche" and correcting each other's spelling of "bismillah". Having visited a few of these, I am now even prouder than ever of the girls who so unblushingly suggested that Robbie Williams' Angels is the best song ever written. Their uncharacteristic faith in their own convictions lent a slightly surreal quality to the nation's favorite lyric debate. Unprepared as they must have been for Angels to come in second - ahead of Bohemian Rhapsody, ahead of Yesterday, I am the Walrus and every other Beatles song - the BBC seemed somewhat embarrassed. Lavishing praise on Imagine, which it considered a "deserving winner", it sounded a note of caution over the rest of the list. Anxious to reassure us that this didn't mean that Angels was good, it emphasised the list's democracy and praised the British public's "enormously wide tastes in music". Presumably, this wouldn't have been necessary if Angels had come in 44th and Queen had performed more respectably. For all its many faults, Bohemian Rhapsody is still allowed the dignity of being thought of as a proper song. At least it has some ambition, runs the argument. At least it goes the distance. And at least it addresses big themes such as life, death, birth, death, life and fandangos. Angels has nothing to say about fandangos and must therefore be dismissed as disposable. It wouldn't be considered for inclusion in the Poetry Society's canon of "poetic" (for which read good) pop lyrics. Like the BBC the society was keen to distinguish its elevation of a certain kind of pop song from the impulse which gave Williams his trophy. Having said from the outset that it wanted to move the debate "beyond the tired old face-off between Dylan and Keats" it was then faced with the problem of finding someone else it approved of. Michael Stipe was mentioned, but not very loudly. The poetry community, if such a thing exists, generally seemed more concerned with defending itself against imagined accusations of dumbing down. "I can't remember anyone suggesting that, say, the Eiffel 65 single should be put on the A-level syllabus alongside Carol Ann Duffy," wrote Stephen Trousse, concerned to firm-up the boundaries he had only so recently blurred. Any remaining confusion was cleared up by Andrew Motion who declared that most pop lyrics are "repetitive and banal" and only worth discussing en route to the more interesting question of what exactly makes Bob Dylan an "exception to this general rule". So Keats versus Dylan it was then. As the muse-a-thon got underway, it quickly became clear - as it always does - that this was no high-low debate. Motion hates popular culture and Dylan is only accepted because, in spite of his popularity, he has dealt with enough fandangos to be thought of as a serious artist. That is to say that the least appealing bits of his oeuvre are replete with cod enigmas, rich in impenetrable images and stuffed to overflowing with big themes. When you are 15, all that crap about four-legged forest clouds and curfew gulls sounds deep. Dylan's great skill - in his worst work - is to manage to imply profundity while placing the onus on his audience to ride with it, or admit their stupidity. It never occurred to me until recently that lines I knew off by heart were elaborate, well-wrought hoaxes. It's easy to see why Dylan is Motion's hero. In a piece he wrote some time ago, he described how the death of his mother had caused him to look to poetry as a way to address a number of "unanswerable questions". These were: What is self? How is it made? Is the weight of love as great as the fact of death? Admitting that he didn't know (all) the answers (yet) Motion resolved, at that moment, to approach them by "indirection". The resulting "poetics" could therefore claim the kudos of confronting big issues head on, while always deferring delivery of the point. This certainly made life much easier since Motion, like Dylan, has been able to divert attention away from his interpretive ineptitude by focusing on the sunlight and the hedgerows rather than the matter in hand. In his TUC poem, he describes a walk he took along the Thames. We hear about the breeze, the dust, the clouds, the water, the buttery sun and all manner of other natural wonders. Motion doubtless wants us to assume that these images are pregnant with significance, relating to the theme of liberty mentioned en passant towards the end. I will probably be accused of literalmindedness, but I couldn't make the connection. Motion's buttery sun, like Dylan's grey flannel dwarf, is an image with nothing behind it. Both evoke depth yet neither can fulfill its promises. No wonder he doesn't like pop music. In spite of various brushes with everyday subject matter (he recently wrote a poem about a passport queue) Motion is on the side of fandangos. The straightforwardness of proper pop music must sound to him, rather facile. All that "love me do" and "let me be" and "be with me" - all those little feelings expressed with such economy. "I met him on a Monday and my heart stood still" - a phrase which, like the best pop lyrics, surrenders its meaning without the aid of a dictionary, a degree or an online discussion. This modesty - the fact that it has no need for indirection - has always made the genre look slight. Few would claim that Depeche Mode's delightful "I just can't get enough" - currently revived on the Gap ads, is in any sense a modern classic. "When I'm with you baby, I go out of my head" is not what you might call poetic. But if poetry means describing the boat masts when one of your friends is dying (as Motion does in his poem about Hughes) or Dylan's masked ball of characters, or a thousand permutations of bismillah - I'd rather take the low road and leave the scenic route to them. © Guardian Newspapers Limited 1999 I hope this has been of interest. Bye now. Nick xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jbaze at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 15:03:19 1999 From: jbaze at xxx.com (Josh Baze) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:03:19 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Red Scare Message-ID: <072439845C05D311A3E90004ACB8B73410D24E@REVEXCHANGE> hello friends-- a bit from your friendly new merchants, the NME... why is it that a guy living in kansas, the middle of the great plains, digs up the dirt from the english papers? have good days- josh BELLE & SEBASTIAN's Stuart Murdoch and Chris Geddes will speak at a conference organised by the Scottish Socialist Party on November 7. Socialism 2000, a series of debates and workshops on Scottish politics and culture takes place at Glasgow Caledonian University. Stuart and Chris will join Francis McDonald (ex Teenage Fanclub now of Shoeshine Records) and Creeping Bent's Douglas McIntyre to discuss the topic "Do you have to sell out to succeed in the music industry?" The SSP is Scotland's newest political party, standing further left than Labour (which admittedly isn't hard) while rejecting the nationalism of the SNP. Their first MSP Tommy Sheridan - famed anti-poll tax campaigner - recently took his seat in the new Scottish Parliament. Click here for more information on the SSP and Socialism 2000. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk Wed Oct 13 15:40:10 1999 From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (sweetie) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:40:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: a day in the life Message-ID: <007201bf1589$e3f5c1a0$1618883e@anne666theasylum> hello sinister how r we all? im not bad, not bad at all. :) what a nice day i have had today. i went into stirling with my best mate. and we went into virgin. and to my absolute delight, they played belle and sebastian seeing other people on the radio. :) (oh doesnt that look quite funny, as if b&s were seeing other people on the radio!) so i stayed in the shop till it was finished. but my mate decided she wanted to go and tried to drag me out the shop by my bag, but i had the power and the force and i managed to resist. and then they annouced that stuart david and looper will be making an appearance in a virgin in glasgow. then something funny. i was walking thro the marches and this wee lassie about 5 started pointing at me and saying 'mummy, mummy look at her!' oh how i laughed at the ignorence, smallness and shallowness of her young mind! and then i bought a big issue from an absloutely lovely bloke. ah he was just lovely, so friendly. we stood and talked to him for 5 mins or so. he was asking about my piercings then telling us about his mates who r pierced. he asked us about ourselves and what we did. 'students?' he asked and how we chuckled inwardly at that. 'no' we replied 'we r still at school!' .'ah well' he said in return 'u look older' and how very chuffed we were at that. :) ah he was just lovely. if only all sales persons were as lovely as him. id be well skint! :) your friend always, me, myself and everyone else, sweetie :) xox ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Life isn't a rehearsal, it's for real. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koendcr at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 17:44:01 1999 From: koendcr at xxx.com (Koen De Crock) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:44:01 GMT Subject: Sinister: Life can be cruel Message-ID: <19991013164401.30193.qmail@hotmail.com> What the f*** is this?? I was waiting for the new album to come out in the autumn, and now I hear it has been postponed till next spring. B+S, give me some new material, quickly. Luckily I have bought a great album yesterday, so it eases the pain: "This is a Pinback CD" by Pinback. It features members of 3 mile pilot. It is great. It is cool. It is fantastic. Buy it! El fortito Let the electronic renaissance live on ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Wed Oct 13 17:49:17 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:49:17 -0400 (EWT) Subject: Sinister: You've got to make the bastard think he's right Message-ID: Hello extended family, This message is lean on the B & S content--I really have nothing original to say about the band really. Last night my mom was having some serious chest pains and thought she might be having a heart attack. Her boyfriend called up and started acting like he knew about heart disease. He drives a truck for a living. It got me thinking about how I hate the way that even though he treats my mother well, he is often condescending to her because she is a woman. I think this is a bunch of crap and I told my mom's best friend so; and her best friend told me that they had a huge blow out about it. But my mom stays with him because she dreadfully fears being alone--after all my father abandoned her and she is right in her assumption that her current boyfriend is a better man than my dad. Because he is, sometimes. Am I an awful human being for wishing she were with someone beter? Ultimately it is her choice who she wants to be with, but I think she can do better than a condescending Christian who uses his beliefs to justify the domination of women and to put down homosexuals. I understand her fear of being alone--I've been alone for 3 years--but I sometimes think that being alone would be better than this. That Belle and Sebastian is one fantastic band, eh? Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hopkinstim at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 17:58:53 1999 From: hopkinstim at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Hopkins?=) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I swear by the look in your eyes Message-ID: <19991013165853.15246.rocketmail@web1003.mail.yahoo.com> Hello chums, 44-24-40 Nice statistics, I think. Don't you? First of all the swearing competition. One or two people have mailed me ask for clarification on what exactly the rules are, which suggests that I succeeded in making my rules the very spitting image of inside-the-top-of-a-boardgame obfuscation. OK, here's a digested version: 1. Make me laugh 2. Send me words which would work as swearwords (for example "Micking Hell" might well work as an expletive to be used if you had dropped an anvil on your foot, wheras "There's a wovewy fwuffy wabbit" probably wouldn't.) Make them Belle and Sebastian related if you can. 3. That's it. We have had some entries, but at the same time, Honey isn't exactly drowning in them. A cesspool of his own making, perhaps, a lake of naughty sinister words, no. Remember that the prize is a glorious copy of Stuart David's latest work of fictive genius. There have apparently been BIG FIGHTS on the streets of Phuket, Thailand over ownership of this book. Oh, and I have prevailed upon Paul to pull some additional copies from his magic Honey Pants, so you have a good chance of being a winner. Everyone knows what makes me laugh. It's easy. Think *puerile*. So come on Sinister kids, let's get dirty! Um, sorry. A couple of other observations from the past few days: Martin saw fit to ask us all: >"Aren't gassy men a pain?" Yes we are, but that fine Bass beer from Burton has that effect on some of us. Sorry. It could be worse, it could be Bass beer from Burton and rough cider from Sidford, Devon, which gives a far more substantial form of offence. Substantial if not solid, if you see what I mean. Gassy women are similarly unpleasant, I find. Gassy dogs are even worse, especially when they are just old and have lost interest in long walks or litter trays. Gassy children, however, are fun for all the family, at the dining table or in front of 'Last of the Summer Wine' on a Sunday evening. Oooh I can hear Granny cackling even now. I cried and cried when Doctor Whatson broke his silence... >We ... myself ... Mick Cooke... at the 13th note Cafe >... King of Glasgow ... rip the "kids" off ... we'll > get a taxi back home ... Anyone's welcome to come > along and pay, please do. It's a sad thing. I've seen it happen before. Look: > sorry I haven't posted to the >list for bloody ages, things used to be really >relaxed in attitude at work, >but they're not now I'm afraid to say and I can't >really post from work. This translates as "I've started hanging around with the band and I'm too important, famous and just all-round good to waste my time posting to you lot now. Oh, and by the way, I'm laughing up my sleeve at all the half-understood gossip I read here. I know the truth, of course, but I'm not telling you plebs. And I saw Stuart Murdoch's pizzle when he was taking a Jimmy Jago. So I know exactly how big it is. But I'm not telling you that either." Come back to us, Keith. We still love you. We miss you. I promise I won't laugh at you when you stick up for pathetically bad 1970s World Health Organisation records. I promise I won't conjure a mental picture of you as Graham Bonnet singing 'Since You've Been Gone' with reflective shades framed by a classic Scottish indiepop bowlcut. Tempting though it may be. Mark wrote: >paunchy townies and their barrel-shaped, slightly >soiled wives (*vast cultural stereotype ahoy, but >it's largely true, honest*) I'm having to assume that this was a piece of biting satire on those listies who persist in referring to townies and pikeys and the like. Because I can't think of another reason why someone as pleasant as Mark would come out with such a nasty-sounding piece of snobbery. Nice satire, Mark! I couldn't answer any of the questions on University Challenge this week, but I swept the board on 'Scrapheap Challenge' and also did very well on 'Watercolour Challenge'. Har. Well, I guess that's all from me for today. Michele was right, you know, the Scala on Saturday is definitely the place to be. See you at the bar. Cheers Tim ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 17:33:25 1999 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:33:25 PDT Subject: Sinister: I'm losing it Message-ID: <19991013163325.25778.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello people.I'm new.First time I write to the list.I originally come from Greece but at the moment I'm studying in the uk at Wolverhampton Uni.So a week ago I completed my B&S record collection by buying TIGERMILK,which I was expecting for 2 years.The thing is here noone really knows B&S.I go to english people asking them for bands that come from here and they don't know them!In Greece B&S are like all the time on the radio and in clubs etc.Well,not in all clubs but in most of the rock clubs.Please if there is any person living around Wolver do suggest a nice bar/club that plays rock music.I can't stand listening to that Down,down song anymore!Is anyone going to Gomez in Wolver on the 21st? Well,I wake up every morning,listen to You're just a baby,baby girl and like wanna go to that park that I see from my window and grab a bottle of wine,and I'ts gonna be really sunny and I'm gonna be really happy and have a pic-nic with my friends.Here I is not suuny.Athens is sunny.I miss the sun.Bye. ZOE ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nkrajewski at xxx.uk Wed Oct 13 19:56:21 1999 From: nkrajewski at xxx.uk (Neil Krajewski) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:56:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Say something strikingly poignant, poetic or profound Message-ID: <008401bf15af$3becd4a0$01f9f7c2@p7t6j7> Hi All, It's been a while since I posted and sadly it will probably be a while until I post again. In a cruel twist of fate the college where I reside for most of my time has now been furnished with the luxury of the internet. 'Great!' some of you may be thinking, Neil won't be moaning about his phone bills any longer as he can use the net at taxpayers expense. Well the prospect of A-Levels next June makes this impossible, but my slightly less consientious friends having found the URL are proceeding to mock the whole sinister community which is becoming incresingly demoralising and a special topic of conversation seems to have been my posts which of course they can all access. They're all suspicious of me going to 'picnics' as and having read the posts they are convinced, partially because of the name I presume (will they ever understand!!!), that sinister is a cult and it does become rather irritating trying to educate the masses. I used to try and now have just given up. Anyway it seems I must now write out of compulsion, not that this is not a pleasurable way to spend an evening. However having being stuck on the last train last night after selling T-Shirts for the fabulous Billy Mahonie at the garage I nearly fell asleep in a court room today and still have many ways which I must fill this evening, the completion of this post obviously being the highlight of these. Some of you may have been wondering the reasoning the title; in my doleful employment which spoils my Saturdays when bored I often say to our staff (allegedly my colleagues) 'Say something strikingly, poignant, poetic or profound' and they give me strange looks as if I have finally lost all grasp of reality, which by that time I probably have. However tonight it seems that having been passed the poetry parrot by the lovely Giita (can I come and stay in Iceland in exchange for compliments, lol ?) it would appear that it is my task to post something falling into the aforementioned criteria. Recently I have been devoting my study to the difficulty in balancing conflicting interests with regards to civil liberties in the UK. My selection of poetry therefore in some deranged way is linked to this aim; i.e. the fact that one selection lacks originality is balanced by my decision to contribute something, admittedly not a very good something, that I penned myself sometime ago. The Inevitable While I was fearing it, it came. But it came with less of a fear, Because that fearing it so long Had almost made it dear. There is a fitting a dismay, A fitting a despair 'Tis harder knowing it is due, Than knowing it is here. The trying on the upmost, The morning it is new, Is terribler than wearing it A whole existence through Emily Dickinson My own written a while ago when I was obsessed with sonnets: How can a man express his love for thee? When thou art far from where I must reside. To write with a pen and paper means a fee; And behind words one can so easily hide The feelings that need to be flowing free. And as time passes tears will be cried, As whilst waiting, one will think of thee. But one can one do little for a while, But sit alone and watch the days fly on by. Hoping that the next will bring a smile Rather than yet another lonely sad sigh. For that day alone I would walk many miles. But while thou is such a distance away I must temper each and every passing day. In this post I've probably contradicted all the principles of the poetry parrot and mine didn't have a charming story to proceed it (was this obligatory?), but still I hope that having made an offering I can now hereby pass the poetry parrot on to....................(struggles from yawning)......Alex Tobin. Anyway goodbye for possibly as long as it takes for me to be emancipated from college or for my friends to find better things to do with their times Neil (Kadj) -----Original Message----- From: sinister-digest To: sinister-digest at Majordomo.net Date: 13 October 1999 14:36 Subject: sinister-digest V3 #341 >sinister-digest Wednesday, October 13 1999 Volume 03 : Number 341 > > > >In your latest Sinister digest: > > Sinister: Help me make loads of money ["Keith Watson" Re: Sinister: The gas man and the inflatable cod ["Vince Russell" Sinister: world keep on turnin'... ["Matthew Dowgert" Sinister: today's special [Ted Whalen ] > Sinister: My bip bopping days ain't over... [=?iso-8859-1?q?Gabriela=20Sa] > Sinister: makes no difference who you are... ["Helen" Sinister: Poesia eres tu [Arantxa Sanz ] > Sinister: I'M DEAD ART ["GEORGE DICKIE" ] > Sinister: I shot the sheriff... but 'e was a stealin' me apples! ["Robi] > Sinister: spicy chicken curry? ["Tim" ] > Sinister: Re: hey all! ["Michael Barrett" Sinister: Is poetry P!A!P!? [Nick.Dastoor at guardian.co.uk] > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:28:02 +0100 >From: "Keith Watson" >Subject: Sinister: Help me make loads of money > >Hello all you people - got a quick message for you chaps. > >We're running a club in Glasgow (Glasgow's first REAL MUSIC night). It's >called "In Tune" and it will feature the DJ-ing "talents" of myself, Claire >Timmins, Mick and Alasdair Cooke (not Alasdair from the list, but Mick (48) >Cooke's Brother). > >It's at the 13th note Cafe on King Street in Glasgow, famously thought to be >owned by Bis - who rip the "kids" off by selling fanzines allegedly, at 9:00 >till 12:00 this Friday. Inspired by Bis's alleged activity, we plan to >fleece everyone who enters by the sum of 1 pound sterling, which we'll use >to get a taxi back home again after the club, leaving all the poor kids to >freeze to death in the Glasgow night. > >We're gonna be playing any sort of music really, just anything that's good, >and if it goes down well, we'll do another night. It's supposed to just be >like a great big party. > >Anyone's welcome to come along and pay a pound, please do. > > >Anyhow, enough of that rampant capitalism, sorry I haven't posted to the >list for bloody ages, things used to be really relaxed in attitude at work, >but they're not now I'm afraid to say and I can't really post from work. > >Nice to see Sarah mentioning monkeys whom I still believe are the new rock >and roll - to back this up, this months Viz (which is a comic, and as we all >well know, comedy is the old new rock and roll) contains an advert for >Monkey Fags, which contains 0.01% Nicotine, and 3.6% Banana! - rock and >roll. > >Peter, lovely to hear your Barry Sheene exploits. I once met Fish - he was >funny, he put this really fake broad Scottish accent on so as to appear >harder than he actually is. Actually, that reminds me, may have said this >one before but, my old flatmate met Fish on Victoria Street in Edinburgh >once, he said "Oh, it's Fish", and Fish went "Fuck off". I once met Chancer >from City Lights in the pub too, I went "Hey - it's Gerard Kelly, you're the >funny man, from the telly" and he went "No, it's Andy Gray". > >Cheers, > Keith. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 21:52:14 +0100 >From: "Vince Russell" >Subject: Re: Sinister: The gas man and the inflatable cod > >Well hello everyone, > >The exploits of Steve will live on, I have evidence that he still lives, >great news huh? To continue the saga, Steve was last seen in a club in >Fulham, having a really great time I have to add, I woke the next day with >no sign of my piscean friend anywhere, so I presumed him dead, I have been >in mourning ever since. And then came a phone call, late last night, now I >know what your going to say and I won't worry because I've translated >Steve's transcript in English, > >Steve : Hi is Vince there? >Vince : Speaking >S : Hi Vince, it's Steve! >V : Steve? Is this some sort of joke? >S : No, it's me Steve the Fish >V : I thought you'd...you know...passed on >S : No no, when you left I was getting passionate with a girl called Susie >from Worcester >V : What? >S : She was really nice...and...well...we've decided to get married and tour >the world >V : WHAT!!!! >S : I'm sorry if this is a bit of a shock to you, but... >V : Bloody right it's a shock, you're a fish! >S : Racist bastard! >V : What? How am I racist? >S : Well, you said I couldn't travel the world because i'm a fish! >V : An inflatable fish I might add >S : Look, I called to see if you were all right with this but I can see i'm >wasting my... >V : Steve, Steve, look, i'm sorry, i'm just really surprised, and i'll >like...you know...miss you >S : I'll be back, and don't worry i'll write to you >V : When do you leave? >S : Tonight >V : Take care Steve, say Hi to Susie for me >S : Bye Vince. >V : Bye Steve > >So Steve has gone, but has not died, to all those on the list who live >outside the UK, if you see Steve say Hi from me, he's a good guy, and >according to Steve's brother, Jonathan, Susie's a great girl also. > >And me? i'll be fine, I have my eye on a very nice small plastic hedgehog >called Andrea. > >Bye for now, > >Vince. > > >- ----- Original Message ----- >From: Martin Robinson >To: >Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 12:57 PM >Subject: Sinister: The gas man and the inflatable cod > > >> Dear all, >> >> I'm afraid I bring bad news to all those admirers and followers of Steve >> the inflatable fish. He is missing presumed dead after having several >> drinks and then being passed round the dancefloor, a bit like Owen Meany >> in Sunday school, of a small club in trendy Fulham. Rumours of an >> inflatable Crimewatch special, as of yet, are unfounded. The Wake is >> presently being delayed in case his deflated remains are found. The >> saddest part of it all is that I never got the chance to tell him that I >> loved him really. >> >> Anyway, at the absence of anything constructive to say and not wishing >> to extend the heated Richard Stilgoe debate to the highlights of the >> career of the amusingly spectacled Cristopher Biggins I shall just >> continue pointlessly and say: I think Mr Casarotto's spiel on Mr Ken >> Kesey was more than a bit harsh >> >> >What a grade A cunt that Ken >> >Kesey must be! And Pete's letter just made me spit bile - his account >> of >> >Kesey's experiments is all the evidence I need for the introduction of >> >compulsory lobotomies for anyone who thinks any thoughts they have >> while >> >tripping are worth foisting on anyone else. Very big and clever you sad >> old >> >men. >> >> Wasn't Kesey was paid by the American government to take LSD? As they >> had no idea what effect it had. He then, being of an open mind, began >> experimenting with it and passing it on to all his mates. LSD had no >> history at this point, so they weren't to know that it would be >> responsible for a load of hippies walking round going "Wow man!". So in >> conclusion everything is the fault of the American government, quelle >> surprise, and it is probably they who are the "grade A cunt"'s. >> >> Aren't gassy men a pain? The bloke came to replace the pump on my >> central heating yesterday and then in the evening I get water coming >> through the kitchen. Apparently he damaged the gas cylinder making it >> leak, so they drained that and now have to replace to it. Consequently I >> have no hot water and the only thing heated in my abode was the >> conversation I had with the gas board to get it fixed quickly. What a >> bunch of "grade A cunt"'s they are (I can use this nasty word all the >> time now and just say I'm quoting that foul mouthed fouler Casarotto). >> Anyway can I start a new list of recommended domestic heating service >> providers? Go electric kids you won't regret it. >> >> Time to conclude this tedium as there's a pint with my name on it. >> >> Te ra, >> >> Martin >> >> ear confection recordings >> (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) >> >> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ >> To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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I think perhaps a summary of the >events of this weekend will serve as a primer to my life and the state that >I'm in. > >Saturday, as I was on my way to a party thrown by people I don't especially >like, I stopped at the local bar for a bite and a pint. It seems like >everyone at the bar conspired to make me staggeringly drunk. I stumbled >down to the party, but was forced to make an over-hasty exit due to >alcohol-induced illness. Sadly, (and here is the B&S content) I had to >leave before I could sway in the style of the truly rhythmless to 'We Rule >the School.' It was my only musical request at a party where the theme was >'High School Homecoming'. I was not elected king. I lost my cranberry >sweater vest on the way home. > >Sunday I spent mainly in bed, but ventured out in the late afternoon to >visit Ikea with my roommate. We bought a rug, and once at home, I swept and >washed the floors in celebration of its arrival. I then commuted via train >into work. I worked so late that the trains had stopped running when I was >ready to leave. I spent the night in bed with my ex-girlfriend, fighting >platonically over the covers. > >Surmise what you will about my life, but feel free to email me your >inferences. My name is Ted and I live in Chicago. > >tew >- -- > And it says "I burn." > Ted Whalen - tew at introvert.net > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:45:03 -0700 (PDT) >From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Gabriela=20Sampaio?= >Subject: Sinister: My bip bopping days ain't over... > >Dear listees... > >It's been so long since I posted last that I am not >sure how to do it again....hehe > >I just wanted to share a moment of happiness with >you... I played as a DJ last Sunday and I included >"she's losing it" and gentle waves' "weathershow" in >my playlist and I was delighted to see everybody on >the dancefloor!! > >Isn't it great? > >XXX > >gabi > > > > >===== > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:26:03 GMT >From: "Helen" >Subject: Sinister: makes no difference who you are... > >I saw Mercury Rev on the tele (Oz TV... because I live with the wizard) the >other night and they did (quite a fine) cover of 'when you wish upon a >star'. And a Dylan cover as well, He was a friend (of mine?). >Interesting. Does covering a Disney song make you less cool? Because I'm >sure it has been done many times before. (or even covering Bob Dylan, >(although almost every band has done that), to those Dylan haters out there, >although I like the man myself). > >(I think I am the winner of how many brackets you can use in a paragraph) > >Maybe it makes you more cool, like a 'I don't give a stuff about coolness' >cool. Soon we'll have B&S covering the theme from Pocahontas and the Beta >band doing a 6 minute experimental piece of Beauty and the Beast. But is >there a ''I don't give a stuff about coolness' cool' cool. And if so where >does it stop? Is there a limit to what is anti-cool and therefore 'hip', as >opposed to things that are so not hip that there is no way that they can >become cool. > >Don't worry I don't understand that sentence very much either. > >Personally I really don't give a stuff, because: >1) coolness, non-coolness it's all relative >2) I quite liked Pinocchio anyway >3) and lastly because I'm taking the piss out of those people and >establishments who like to draw lines in the fickle world of entertainment, >(I mean by saying this band is cool, but that band isn't, they make it such >a thin line when really there isn't one at all. Because as soon as you draw >a line in the sands of entertainment, then a wave of popular opinion comes >in and washes it away and you have to start again.... now you see why I >never did English because my metaphors are crap. Ha.) > >but what I can tell you for certain is that I spend way too much time in >transit every day and have nothing to do except wonder and laugh at stupid >shit like this. > >Helen > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:49:19 +0100 (BST) >From: Arantxa Sanz >Subject: Sinister: Poesia eres tu > >Press articles and reviews based on celebrities is going too far.One >cannot open a so-called serious paper without finding Steve Trousse and >Tara'shenanigans in their pages, everyday.And in the end I don't know if >he was stripping in front of pubescent princes or she was slagged off >because of her lyrical taste.Media just confuse my waif-like mind. > > >All I could really 'absorb' from poetry and lyrics later scandal, it was >that Deborah Whoever,feature writer of the year,fancied Andrew Motion >because of his posh navy blue coat.Fair enough.After my pleasant reading >of some verses in my mother tongue sent by lovely Giita ( I want to go to >Iceland more than ever,after my housemate's holidays ...!!!),might I add >humbly my two pences to the discussion???Language makes a radical >difference.Try to translate anything being true poetry (even something >painted by furious demonstrators on a wall)and it would get irreversebly >damaged somehow. > > >And sorry for being so conventional,but I consider 'angels' second >position and even 'Imagine' first position slightly embarrasing,being the >most embarrasing of it all the somehow official opinion of 'Bohemian >Rapsody' should have made it much better! > >70's Who,that classical of this list: I ignore if Mr Miller would know >about Houston Party Records, the recently founded label managed by Jaume >from Parkinson DC in Barna, and so baptised after the orgiastic bash >organised by the WHo during some American tour or so.According to the >manager, that party simbolised all the rock mythology.Very deep.Especially >for a power pop label owned by Posies' best chums. > >Once again, anyone up for Airport Girl and Butterflies of Love tomorrow >night in NOttingham? Mail me privately. > >xxxx > >Arantxa > > >PS I had never written before in any message 'mail me privately'.It sounds >so naughty. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 03:55:18 PDT >From: "GEORGE DICKIE" >Subject: Sinister: I'M DEAD ART > > WHEN YOU CAN'T SEE THE POINT TO ANYTHING > > > YOU HAVE NO POINT TO MAKE > > > G > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:01:00 +0100 >From: "Robin Stout" >Subject: Sinister: I shot the sheriff... but 'e was a stealin' me apples! > >Helen wrote: > >> I saw Mercury Rev on the tele (Oz TV... because I live with the wizard) the >> other night and they did (quite a fine) cover of 'when you wish upon a >> star'. And a Dylan cover as well, He was a friend (of mine?). >> Interesting. Does covering a Disney song make you less cool? > > I once travelled to Boston, England in a little car, with my >American friend, listening to his greatest hits tape. He was from >California, USA, and lived out of a rucksack, and as such had only >brought this one tape with him. It was a mixture of Bruce >Springsteen and Disney Classics, and he sang along to it all the >way. Um, this is just an anecdote really, I've just realised it doesn't >actually have a point. On the way we passed a town called Elton and >we wished that John had come cos it would have made a funny >photo. > I got some tickets for Nalda Said in Nottingham yesterday >and the girl behind the counter said something to the effect that we >didn't really need them because no-one was going. She was a >moody tart, though. I think she'd missed her vocation in the fish and >chip shop. > Have I ever said how I used to think it was my vocation to be >a vicar? Does anyone else think that people are really made to do >certain jobs and mostly choose the wrong ones? I do. It's like hands >and gloves. I bought some gloves and a hat from an honest market >trader last week, after he convinced me that they were the finest >quality, and selling like hot cakes, guv'nor. The hat was quite nice, >so I bought them. When I got home I found I had been flogged two >left-handed gloves! Honest market trader, my arse! So now I don't >like the hat so much either because it brings back ugly memories of >the gloves. > >Steve wrote: > >> anyone lucky enough to be in toronto today got themselves one >> honey of a fall day, that is for sure. boy was it nice. > > Gee, Steve, that's the most American sentence I've ever >seen. > > Sarah-san wa kawaii desu. Whatever this means, I think it's >probably appropriate. > > Oi! Gimme back me apples! > > Robin xxx > >PS: This email might be full of strange codes at the beginning and >the end. If it is, it's not my fault. We've been given a new email >programme and I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 11:03:56 +0100 >From: "Tim" >Subject: Sinister: spicy chicken curry? > >Well this'll be only the second or third time I've posted, and I'm not >really sure why I'm posting now, but as I'm not at work and I've had the >time to read all the emails for once, I thought I'd just waffle for a bit. > >No, it is my third time I've posted I'm sure. The second time was to see if >anyone had recorded a live performance by Teenage Fanclub on the evening >session, and some delightful person had done. Nice girl. Can't remember her >name though. Oops. > >B and S content: Hmm.....not sure on this one, but I was thinking only >yesterday that I don't really know many people who like Belle and Sebastien >apart from people on the internet. Well, maybe not quite true....a couple of >people at work do, but these are odd scary people who live in like >underground tunnels. > >But I did manage to convert my girlfriend to them. Well, to If You're >Feeling Sinister and Tigermilk anyway, as TBWTAS didn't go down too well. It >was a bit of a struggle mind, as I had to make her leave her Gabrielle and >Whitney Houston cd's alone for a bit. I'm not happy now though, as she's >nicked Grand Prix and HMS Fable off me, and doesn't want to give them back, >so I have to listen to them round her house. She did say I could take the >Marion cd back though. An acquired taste no doubt. But she did buy me The >La's album, and I have her cuddly gorilla. All is not lost. > >Lucksmiths albums: I now have some, and they are very good. Don't think >anything else needs to be said about these. > >Can anyone help me with trying to find some stuff by Out Of My Hair? I've >only heard two singles (Get Back In The Groove Again and Mr Jones) and quite >liked them, but can't find anything by them anywhere. > >I still like Local Boy In The Photograph by The Stereophonics. > >Inbetween the munching on pot noodles and such like on a break, a few of us >were struggling to work out who was cooler. On the on hand there was The >Fonz...Aaiiiieeee, and then there was Hannibal from the A Team taking the >cigar out of his mouth and saying 'I love it when a plan comes together'. > >Due to this I have been struggling to sleep over the last few days. Either >that or I haven't really gone to bed. > >Anyway > >Tim > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:58:37 +0100 >From: "Michael Barrett" >Subject: Sinister: Re: hey all! > >I think this was meant for all of us... >- ----- Original Message ----- >From: Shelly P >To: >Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:30 PM >Subject: hey all! > > >> just wanted to pass on a good belle and sebastian link... >> >> it's for a rare mp3. does anyone know when this was recorded? >> >> >> http://www.usounds.com/daily.htm >> >> enjoy! >> >> shelly p >> >> >> > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:21:13 +0100 >From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk >Subject: Sinister: Is poetry P!A!P!? > >Keith wrote some stuff about a great big party at the 13th Note this Fr= >iday for >people who like REAL MUSIC. Sounds like the new Knebworth. I can't wa= >it! I'm >going to Glasgow for a conference this weekend you see, and was wonderi= >ng what >to do with myself. Now I know. > >Helen was wondering about what kind of cool it was to cover a Disney so= >ng. >Well, I don't think it's cool of the 'I don't give a stuff about coolne= >ss' >variety. Maybe I think too much about these things, but I think if the= >re was a >time for 'serious artists' covering Disney songs being cool, it was sev= >eral >years ago. There was a compilation called 'Stay Awake' that came out i= >n about >1989, which is a bit patchy but has some real gems and manages to hang = >together >pretty well as a whole. Sinead O Connor heavy breathes her way through= > 'Someday >My Prince Will Come', Tom Waits turns 'Heigh Ho' into an portentous pro= >test >song, and Ringo Starr rounds things off in a kind of White Album 'Goodn= >ight' way >with 'When You Wish Upon A Star'. It's also got Natalie Merchant, the >Replacements and Los Lobos on it. And lots of others - I must dig it o= >ut when I >get home. *Anyway* the point is, it might not have reached covering Ab= >ba >proportions, but I don't think covering Disney songs for 'ooh - aren't = >we >unconcerned about what's cool' kudos (props?) really cuts it. Too obvi= >ous. >Mind you, covering Abba might be cool in a new 'look, surely we've got = >over the >kitch thing by now - this is just a brilliant song and we want to sing = >it' way. > >In other new, for those who are confused by all this talk of M. Petits = >Pantalons >in the papers, here's the story. There's been a fair bit of blathering= > in the >media of late because the Poetry Society's National Poetry Day had a po= >ll of >'the nation's favourite pop lyric' as one of its strands. 'Imagine' w= >on, >prompting Peter Hitchens to point out that people can't really have lis= >tened to >the words properly because the utopia it describes sounds to him like '= >bloody >Soviet Russia'. Anyway, in his capacity as hip-to-the-kids spokesperso= >n at the >Poetry Society, Stevie has been wheeled out to address the public on a = >few >occasions. For example, in last Thursday's Independent, he mewled as f= >ollows: > > 07 Oct 1999 Right of Reply: The co-editor of 'The Message: crossing = >the > tracks between poetry and pop' replies to David Liste= >r's > criticisms of comparisons between pop lyrics and poet= >ry: The > Independent > > By STEPHEN TROUSSE >DAVID LISTER recently rose above the 'postmodern jumble' of debate arou= >nd >this year's National Poetry Day, and re-asserted critical standards wit= >h the >suggestion: 'Steady on, chaps, some of those Oasis lyrics are a bit rop= >ey, >aren't they?' >Maybe it's the function of the columnist to reduce a complex set of ide= >as to >a quick gag and a bit of moral posturing. But I can't remember anyone e= >ver >suggesting that, say, the Eiffel 65 single should be put on the English= > >A-level syllabus alongside Carol Ann Duffy. In fact, part of the point = >of >choosing the theme of this year's National Poetry Day was to open up a >debate that went beyond the tired old face-off between Dylan and Keats = >or >Percy and Pete Shelley. If the notion of the lyric has historical ambig= >uity, >what do the two forms have to learn from each other today? >Should we dismiss song lyrics as juvenile doggerel? I have been co-edit= >ing a >Poetry Society publication mulling over the whole relationship between >poetry and pop, and the issues are far richer than I had imagined. >Lister suggests that poets are deluding themselves by claiming pop star= >s as >brothers and sisters. But for those of us who are curious about the lif= >e of >language and the pulse of culture, it seems perfectly sensible to consi= >der >the new Magnetic Fields CD in the context of New York School poetry. Fo= >r >Lister, who seems to have given up on pop music around 1972, this may s= >eem >to be a postmodern jumble. But maybe the real issue here is who gets to= > >police the borders between high and low culture. >Marc Bolan once said that 'the pop song should be a spell'. A lot of th= >e >time it doesn't even give us cheap magic. >But if there's one thing this National Poetry Day has shown, it's that = >the >form still has the capacity to infuriate and delight and start argument= >s. >IND >Comment 2 > >The Independent >Copyright (C) Newspaper Publishing Plc, 1988-1997 > > >See how casually the prankster manages to slip a gratuitous reference t= >o the >Magnetic Fields into a national newspaper! Personally, I think it's hi= >gh time >we got around to considering Belle & Sebastian in the context of Glasgo= >w School >poetry. Or Playgroup poetry. Sadly, Stevie then got a bit a kicking f= >rom >Charlotte Raven in her weekly column in Tuesday's Guardian. I think s= >he >pictures him as a bit of a precious poetry ponce with a perpetual sniff= >le. >Which he isn't, of course. > >'How Dylan hoaxed the poets' >On pop and the profound >Charlotte Raven >Tuesday October 12, 1999 >A great many girls must have voted in last weekend's BBC poll to find t= >he >nation's favourite song lyric. I was surprised by the results, announce= >d on >Saturday, because women tend to think that the kind of music they like = >is, by >definition, crap and are therefore inclined to leave the qualitative as= >sessments >to the "people who know better" - ie men. >This self-denying ordinance has given men the freedom to define the cla= >ssic >song. List after tedious list is produced without reference to pop's pr= >imary >consumers - a fact which might go some way to explaining why profundity= > rather >than pleasure is the sine qua non of a classic, and why a song that pro= >mpts >website discussions about its meaning is likely to win hands down over = >something >that wears its significance more lightly. >There are numerous websites devoted to Bohemian Rhapsody. Almost 25 yea= >rs after >the song's release, people are swapping theses on the origins of "scara= >mouche" >and correcting each other's spelling of "bismillah". Having visited a f= >ew of >these, I am now even prouder than ever of the girls who so unblushingly= > >suggested that Robbie Williams' Angels is the best song ever written. T= >heir >uncharacteristic faith in their own convictions lent a slightly surreal= > quality >to the nation's favorite lyric debate. Unprepared as they must have bee= >n for >Angels to come in second - ahead of Bohemian Rhapsody, ahead of Yesterd= >ay, I am >the Walrus and every other Beatles song - the BBC seemed somewhat embar= >rassed. >Lavishing praise on Imagine, which it considered a "deserving winner", = >it >sounded a note of caution over the rest of the list. Anxious to reassur= >e us that >this didn't mean that Angels was good, it emphasised the list's democra= >cy and >praised the British public's "enormously wide tastes in music". >Presumably, this wouldn't have been necessary if Angels had come in 44t= >h and >Queen had performed more respectably. For all its many faults, Bohemian= > Rhapsody >is still allowed the dignity of being thought of as a proper song. At l= >east it >has some ambition, runs the argument. At least it goes the distance. An= >d at >least it addresses big themes such as life, death, birth, death, life a= >nd >fandangos. Angels has nothing to say about fandangos and must therefore= > be >dismissed as disposable. It wouldn't be considered for inclusion in the= > Poetry >Society's canon of "poetic" (for which read good) pop lyrics. Like the = >BBC the >society was keen to distinguish its elevation of a certain kind of pop = >song from >the impulse which gave Williams his trophy. >Having said from the outset that it wanted to move the debate "beyond t= >he tired >old face-off between Dylan and Keats" it was then faced with the proble= >m of >finding someone else it approved of. >Michael Stipe was mentioned, but not very loudly. The poetry community,= > if such >a thing exists, generally seemed more concerned with defending itself a= >gainst >imagined accusations of dumbing down. "I can't remember anyone suggesti= >ng that, >say, the Eiffel 65 single should be put on the A-level syllabus alongsi= >de Carol >Ann Duffy," wrote Stephen Trousse, concerned to firm-up the boundaries = >he had >only so recently blurred. Any remaining confusion was cleared up by And= >rew >Motion who declared that most pop lyrics are "repetitive and banal" and= > only >worth discussing en route to the more interesting question of what exac= >tly makes >Bob Dylan an "exception to this general rule". So Keats versus Dylan it= > was >then. >As the muse-a-thon got underway, it quickly became clear - as it always= > does - >that this was no high-low debate. Motion hates popular culture and Dyla= >n is only >accepted because, in spite of his popularity, he has dealt with enough = >fandangos >to be thought of as a serious artist. That is to say that the least app= >ealing >bits of his oeuvre are replete with cod enigmas, rich in impenetrable i= >mages and >stuffed to overflowing with big themes. When you are 15, all that crap = >about >four-legged forest clouds and curfew gulls sounds deep. Dylan's great s= >kill - in >his worst work - is to manage to imply profundity while placing the onu= >s on his >audience to ride with it, or admit their stupidity. It never occurred t= >o me >until recently that lines I knew off by heart were elaborate, well-wrou= >ght >hoaxes. >It's easy to see why Dylan is Motion's hero. In a piece he wrote some t= >ime ago, >he described how the death of his mother had caused him to look to poet= >ry as a >way to address a number of "unanswerable questions". These were: What i= >s self? >How is it made? Is the weight of love as great as the fact of death? Ad= >mitting >that he didn't know (all) the answers (yet) Motion resolved, at that mo= >ment, to >approach them by "indirection". The resulting "poetics" could therefore= > claim >the kudos of confronting big issues head on, while always deferring del= >ivery of >the point. This certainly made life much easier since Motion, like Dyla= >n, has >been able to divert attention away from his interpretive ineptitude by = >focusing >on the sunlight and the hedgerows rather than the matter in hand. In hi= >s TUC >poem, he describes a walk he took along the Thames. We hear about the b= >reeze, >the dust, the clouds, the water, the buttery sun and all manner of othe= >r natural >wonders. Motion doubtless wants us to assume that these images are preg= >nant with >significance, relating to the theme of liberty mentioned en passant tow= >ards the >end. I will probably be accused of literalmindedness, but I couldn't ma= >ke the >connection. Motion's buttery sun, like Dylan's grey flannel dwarf, is a= >n image >with nothing behind it. Both evoke depth yet neither can fulfill its pr= >omises. >No wonder he doesn't like pop music. In spite of various brushes with e= >veryday >subject matter (he recently wrote a poem about a passport queue) Motion= > is on >the side of fandangos. The straightforwardness of proper pop music must= > sound to >him, rather facile. All that "love me do" and "let me be" and "be with = >me" - all >those little feelings expressed with such economy. "I met him on a Mond= >ay and my >heart stood still" - a phrase which, like the best pop lyrics, surrende= >rs its >meaning without the aid of a dictionary, a degree or an online discussi= >on. This >modesty - the fact that it has no need for indirection - has always mad= >e the >genre look slight. Few would claim that Depeche Mode's delightful "I ju= >st can't >get enough" - currently revived on the Gap ads, is in any sense a moder= >n >classic. "When I'm with you baby, I go out of my head" is not what you = >might >call poetic. >But if poetry means describing the boat masts when one of your friends = >is dying >(as Motion does in his poem about Hughes) or Dylan's masked ball of cha= >racters, >or a thousand permutations of bismillah - I'd rather take the low road = >and leave >the scenic route to them. > >=A9 Guardian Newspapers Limited 1999 > >I hope this has been of interest. Bye now. > >Nick xxx >= > >------------------------------ > >End of sinister-digest V3 #341 >****************************** > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dhooper at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 20:51:50 1999 From: dhooper at xxx.com (Dan Hooper) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:51:50 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Maybe I AM loosing it Message-ID: Hello kiddies . . . Hmmmm, new listee Zoe writes . . . In Greece B&S are like all the time on the radio and in clubs etc.Well,not in all clubs but in most of the rock clubs . . . Athens is sunny. Hmmmm (again), Greece is sunny, in Greece they play B & S on the radio and in the clubs (though not all clubs), and Greece is the cradle of the Western Poetic tradition. Sounds like the place to have the Splinter meet-up of the Millennium (it could be of Olympian proportions!). Then again, small fragmented gatherings in cold overcast places where no one knows or understands our obsession and where "Bohemian Rhapsody" is considered high art (it was the theme song to Wayne's World for gosh sakes) and mentioned in the same sentence as Keats is much more to our liking. Hmmmm I was in Ameboa Records on Haight Street (in San Francisco, California, (where it is not always as sunny as the travel agents say)) over the weekend and they were playing IYFS. I asked the clerk about it, and she said that someone had returned the week before and it had found its way into their playlist. But it was "defective" it would have to be removed before the week was out, much to her disappointment. I smiled. I have not posted in a while because i have been nursing a bruised heart. A friend of mine sent me an essay written by a friend of his. I read the essay, which was about how this girl got into pop music, and was struck by how closely her story resembled mine (of course some of the details were different, as were some of the bands she liked, but the general curve of our stories were amazingly parallel). So I wrote my friend to tell him this, he passed my gush on to the girl (without my knowledge), and much to my surprise, she wrote to me. For the better part of three weeks, we exchanged e-mails, often to the tune of three or four lengthy ones daily. During that time our correspondence grew much more personal than just "oh yeah, you like them too!" or "So who was the first Sino-Japanese band to cover a Matthew Sweet song in Serbo-Cruasian?" It was beginning to feel something like "89 Charing Cross Road" or certain Looper songs. And though we seemed to be spiritually joined at the ear, and were growing closer and closer emotionally, we were physically living a few hundred miles apart. Then an opportunity arose. My job had me traveling to a city very near by this girl, who had wormed her way into my heart. We made plans to meet-up and spend all the free time we had on the weekend together exploring the possibilities of this new strange town. As I arrived in the city a few days before her, I rang her and we spoke for four or five hours each of the four nights before she arrived. It would appear that we were made for each other, soulmates as it were separated only by distance. We both were very excited at the prospects of meeting each other. She even told me that I was "too perfect". And meet we did. But something wasn't right. I think we both tried (I know I certainly did) to make it work. I had the feeling that the person I was meeting was not the same person I had been writing to or that I had spoken to for all those hours. I assumed we were both a little nervous about meeting, and that things would be better the following evening. We chattered lightly on the drive back to my hotel, and at the end, just before she, quite literally, kicked me to the curb, he asked, rather rhetorically, "We didn't hit it off, did we?" Before I could answer, I found myself sitting on the curb in the faded neon glow of a theatre marque, looking up through a cloud of exhaust at her taillights disappearing into the night. I made a few valiant attempts to call her the following day, but to no avail. And upon returning to San Francisco, I send her an e-mail which remains unanswered. So I'm left wondering how I could go from being "too perfect" to less than gum beneath her shoe in fewer than 24 hours, and am I such a hideous person in person that I should restrict my social life to pen-pals and posting to e-mail lists. If such is the case, so be it. I'll be a manifestation of my words only. Well, a little wound licking can be a good thing. And as that old Mexican proverb says, "Those things that don't kill us build character." Now I'm indebted to our S. Murdock for the perspective granted by repeated listenings to "I Don't Love Anyone." I can categorically state: "I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggonit, people like me." But is it wicked not to care . . .? Thanks for your indulgence. I didn't mean to blather on like this, but confessions are a bit like cashews: once you start you just can't stop. I hope there was enough B & S content to pass muster. Oh by the way, a new pair of cashmere socks goes a long way to mending a bruised heart. All the Best Daniel Hooper +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zvoruna at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 22:31:36 1999 From: zvoruna at xxx.com (ZvoRunA) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:31:36 -0600 Subject: Sinister: 24 Melted Candles Message-ID: <4119991031320313646@starmail.com> dear my sinisters, i feel like this is more a question for some radio love line.. but.. I trust you all more (you may blush now.. or skip this entry altogether as you see fit). today is my birthday.. and my girlfriend has forgotten it. i am not running in circles around my room pulling out my hair while smoke pours from my ears.. but i am kind of sad. we've been together nearly two years. should i be upset? or am i overreacting? sure more terrible things in life happen.. natural disaster, disease, enduring Cheap Trick concerts, etc.. but is this a sign? i wonder if there have been others that i am in denial about.. dismissing it as mere thoughtlessness. oh to be Mayfly. love z- _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Wed Oct 13 21:31:24 1999 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:31:24 -0400 Subject: No subject Message-ID: I've been listening to tigermilk practically non-stop for the past couple days. and "we rule the school" keeps making me cry. damn. so there's my B&S content. List Crush someone else voted for me on the list crush site, so now i'm at number 22 on the list. tee hee. thank you mysterious stranger #2, and may as well thank mysterious stranger #1 who admitted he was the one who voted for me, as well as sending me that postcard. you're all really too kind. Drunk and Flirting With Boys (is how i've been spending my weekends) some of you may recall my drunken post the other night (sunday, i believe), well i went to yet another party at the same house on monday night (long weekend, we didn't have classes until today [wednesday]), and once again flirted with that same boy (seth), and this time when our mutual friend went to bed, we stayed up. nothing naughty happened, but we did sit awfully close together (legs touching, etc) and for a while he had his head resting on my shoulder *sigh*. i went home on shaky legs and collapsed when i got to my room. it felt magical. anyway, so that was two nights ago. haven't seen him or really heard from him, and i'm awfully confused about what the next logical step would be. our mutual friend has gone back to maryland for her studies at the NIH, so that little connection is out. I'd feel awkward just going over to hang out, because i've never done that before. And i'm too impatient to wait until this weekend when i can just waltz over and say i was looking for a party. and another thing -- i'm still not positive he's not dating anybody. last i checked (about a year ago) he was dating this girl tanya, but i've seen neither hide nor hair of her anywhere near him (and only once in general) this semester. so i was wondering if any of you intelligent people could tell me the best and least awkward way to ask him if he's seeing anybody. i'm still not sure what's up with him, so i don't know if it would be weird for me to straight-out say "are you seeing anyone?" or if i should ask about tanya, etc. because it's entirely possible he's long since broken up with her but he's seeing someone else now. of course, our mutual friend must have seen what was going on between us and she never said anything to me about a girlfriend . . . but i digress. I Have a Grant Proposal to Write do any of you know where i can find antibodies to the marA multidrug resistance efflux pump in e. coli, because i need it for my thesis and i can't write my grant proposal (or do my thesis) without knowing if it exists and where to find it. aaaaaaaaaaaack! i think it's high time i start calling antibody supply companies. this is madness. well, off to try and write that damn grant proposal. hmph. i wish i didn't have to, but my stupid thesis is going to cost like $1000 to do, and i don't have that kind of money just lying around. jerks. i wish i was studying english or something inexpensive like that. -kerry "if acquired characteristics can not be passed on . . . man lives and suffers in vain. whatever he might have acquired in the course of a lifetime dies with him." -paul kannmerer -- in defence of lamarck +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Wed Oct 13 21:57:10 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 21:57:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: i bet it woofs too Message-ID: My children, Another bulletin from mummy in the Land of Nod. I've too much here to say so I'm going to say it v..e..r..y quickly. First off, I desperately need an Aibo - if you don't know what one is go to www.aibonet.com and if you DO know then Why Didn't You Tell Me? My heart is lovesick for Aibo.. they cost $2500. It's a medical condition I HAVE to have one, you understand. Secondly on a completely unconnected note, there's going to be a one-off charge for Sinister membership of, say, $2.17 for all current list members. Just make cheques payable to "Honey's Aibo Medical Fund" and send direct Sony. Other news: Stuart Doobeedoo Murdoch apparently recorded two JAZZ songs on Monday night in Glasgow for BBC's Beat Room show (the one only people with Digital TV and presumably transportation machines get). Yes I know, jazz - he apparently sang a bit with Bill Wells. I hope he did "Your Feets Too Big" by Fats Waller, myself, rather than the Cleo Laine school of jazz. Don't ask me any more about this, as I don't know any and will just make up a load of lies, but expect to hear something about it soon, I guess. Now Tim's rudeness competition. I do urge you all to enter, as he'll sulk for ages at me about you all being useless hippies who don't even know how to swear properly if we don't get more entries. The closing date is FRIDAY and we have 3 spanking new copies of Stuart David's book looking for homes, thanks to that nice Kaye at I.M.P., the publishers. It's got naked pinups of the band in it too, like in Look-In. Everyone knows this is a Thai-based B&S list, and I was very surprised to see the following news a bit ago: that the American sitcom "Joannie Loves Chachi" was banned in Thailand, because Chachi means "penis". How silly, she probably DOES and what's so wrong with that. Mind you, they did get jittery about "The King and Oon". How ridiculous, especially bearing in mind Thailand is the world's chief exporter of Pissing Boys. Putting on my sensible shoes.. .. I have the following administrative information. ONE Alex mentioned that the Stuart David bed-ins in bookshops (bagism, shagism) have changed locations - IMP asked me to pass on what's what. Here you go: > Borders gig is now cancelled - due to lighting problems. > Oxford Virgin gig is being replaced by Nottingham Virgin, same times. > Their telephone number at the store for free tickets is 0115 947 > 6126 I do like "lighting problems". Someone make a joke about it quick. TWO Something to do with a B&S night on Toronto: > I recently emailed asking you to put through an announcement as to a Belle > and Sebastian night in Toronto at Vox Central, November 4th. I've just > received word that the club has gone bankrupt, thus there will be no Songs > For Children happening until further notice. I'm looking at some other > clubs downtown so hopefully it will just be postponed. THREE Dunno whether people have seen this. Someone sent it me. At least they sent it ME instead of grabbing all your emails from the archive and spamming you all like wotsit with the MP3s. Grr. > I'm not sure if I told you guys about this yet, but there's an Belle > and Sebastian music video on the Insound.com website. Here's the link > to it so you can see it and maybe put up a link onto your website or > something: http://www.insound.com/cinema/searchalpha.cfm?searchby=B FOUR Finally some more information from Wrasse Records about the Bathers LP with some Belly's on it. > Belle and Sebastian (Isobel and Richard) helped out with the new > Bathers album - Pandemonia. They are friends of each other and live > very near to each other. This is Chris Thomsons (singer songwiter of > the bathers) sixth album and most mature. Many of the songs have been > written from personal experience and many revisit "the" relationship as > it unfolds. > > To find out more about the album please visit their official website > www.thebathers.com and their record company's site > www.thebathers.wrasserecords.com . > > The Bathers are playing a one off gig in London at the ICA on Thursday > 21st October. In fact they live so close to each other I bet they go round for tea. Jam sangwiches mmm... If you got this far, I bet you read the labels on Kellogs packets. Honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sburon at xxx.fr Wed Oct 13 22:05:12 1999 From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 23:05:12 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Socialism Message-ID: <199910132102.XAA29061@front3m.grolier.fr> Hi list... Maybe you'll find this interesting : go and see http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19991013112036.html, something about Belle and Sebastian and socialism... Hope you'll tell us what they said!!! Stephane +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 22:11:50 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:11:50 PDT Subject: Sinister: poetry debate Message-ID: <19991013211150.91220.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi List, Thankyou to Nick Dastoor for writing the articles up-- it was interesting wasn't it? Trousers,your speech is very eloquent and I would like you to write my philosophy essay for me. God knows I'm getting stupider.No..I really am.There was this vocabulary quiz and I didnt know what extol or apex was.Sigh.That girl who wrote back about the poetry seemed to be having a hissy fit,I'm sorry,but just because you're 15 doesn't give you an exuse to be a dolt.I liked the New Kids when I was 5,but I think thats different..Sure some of that easy-breezy music stuff is fun to dance to and everything,but good god,its not like I'm going to go home and try to anaylze "Angels" by Robbie Williams. But uh-oh..I dont actually KNOW this "Angels" song,so maybe it could be deep,huh? But anyways,I think you know what I mean. Now DROOLZ..on the other hand...thats heavy stuff...tears at my soul... This reminds me of a conversation I had with my father.After his usual teasing of my choice in music I said "Come on..I'm sure you didnt listen to all that classical stuff when you were my age" And he replied that actually he had...he just had to wrestle for it to be played in the car. Geez,theres always someone up higher in the musical food chain.I laugh at Moffat girls...Father laughs at Belle&Sebastian girls...but who laughs at father? Moffat girls? Those boys are really nasty looking.I know its mean,but they are.Yet they were painted on red-sequinned pants, why why why? Piddly poo..anyways,I'm sorry to bug you all again,but I really dig this list for homework dilemmas.I need to compare 2 philosopher or historian guys who might share the same idea,or may have opposing views.(e.g Marx vs Smith..except...you cant do that one,so dont suggest!) "Help me!" cried the girl as she tumbled down the cliff. PJ Miller...dont knock the tousle,tousle,tousle till you've tried it.I picture you with waist-length auburn locks.Or maybe strawberry blonde. Oh,and *I've* got my OWN sinisterine story now too.Ok..maybe it wasn't all fancy-pants,and there was so football game,and there was no drink,but I did get to see the lovely EA, the princess who broke my hank-as-frog spell. aaaaa! brain turning to mush! love... genevieve,no-longer-a-toad p.s everyone go to keiths club dammit!Friggin hell,everything is so close over there.You know,if I was in Europe,I would like...bicyle to different countries.London to Paris in 2 hours! I can't get over it.If I was to travel north..I'd make it to Nunavut. Mick has a brother,awwww. I just love families of brothers.Stuart David has a brother.Does Stuart Murdoch have a brother..is a widdle widdle guy? I just want to scoop that whole bunch up in my arms and coo at them. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Thu Oct 14 09:52:57 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:52:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'll have a crocodile sandwich... Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2297F2B3@SERVER1> Wanky post ahoy. Kerry's recent letter was all about having sex. What struck me was the way the phrase was just tossed off (cheers) here and there in the most matter-of-fact way, whether it was talking about Beanz fantasies or exes or one night stands. It's probably just a language thing, me being oversensitive while Kerry was just being stream-of-consciousness literal, but it's still something that made me think Which is a rarity. Sex with people you care about is better than sex with people you don't. Even if the act of coition isn't as impressive, it's always going to be on a different level that makes it that much more satisfying. Well that's what I think anyway, but I may be being a hopeless romantic. Which is quite a nice way to be. I also find the expression "having sex" sounds faintly unpleasant because of the connotation I lumber it with that it's a 100% physical, 0% emotional act. Coming from someone who can argue for hours about how words shouldn't be given any status they don't merit (cunt being the obvious example), that sounds silly. I'd rather use the word fuck to describe the act if it were with someone I love, as to me it seems at least passionate, and has a sense of depth about it. But that's just me. I must admit, though, that discovering saying "You're totally hot. I've considered having sex with you a few times" actually *works* has radically changed my view of pick-up lines :-) Finally, an apology. Tim has made me realise that my "biting satire" wasn't really very funny. It wasn't entirely satire either. I'm sorry to be offensive, even if I was trying to be funny (a bit) and wasn't really serious (though I was, a bit). I suppose I am a snob. 14 years of public school education is bound to leave some kind of stain... Told you it was wanky. Love Mark (who is now hoping to NYC *and* Toronto some time next year...) xxx ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 0171 224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. This e mail has been checked by our anti-virus system before leaving us; we accept no responsibility for the e mail and any attachments once they leave us. www.hitentertainment.com ******************************************************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.alder at xxx.uk Thu Oct 14 12:57:22 1999 From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:57:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Miserable? Moi? Message-ID: <11020643E71FD311ACAA0008C7C563F301AB540A@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk> Well, first of all, I'm not a sad cow anymore. I've spent 5 days enjoying the delights of northern Italy and have returned with new clothes and perfume, a stash of Diana cigarettes (blue ones for the royal connection) and a much happier heart. So sorry for boring you all before, but I'm back to my old juicy self and promise never to darken your inbox with stress and misery again. Have you ever tried starving yourself of music? It's fab. I didn't listen to anything while I was in Italy, then put Tigermilk on as soon as I got in and it was twice as good as usual (which is really saying something, is it not?). I am also listening to a lot of music with handclaps at the moment - in my (oh so humble) opinion, a song with handclaps in it is as catchy as crabs. And they general make your toes tingle and twitch and itch to dance. My current fave is Needle in a Haystack (as in finding a good man is...). Just realised that parentheses must be as catchy as crabs because I've obviously caught brackets off somebody on this list. Better than rickets I suppose. But you can't catch rickets because it's caused by vitamin deficiency or something. Anyway, I think in the middle of all that I mentioned a top soul tune, so speaking of that, who was listening to John Peel last night? I scrabbled around and couldn't find a pen to write down the name of that corking soul tune he played. Can anyone help? I want to add it to my Records Wanted list for next time I go soul shoppin'. Hmmm... a Records Wanted list - who was it that decreed that girls can't be trainspotterish? Actually, I've had enough of the girls like this and boys like that argument. That whinger in the guardian reckoned it was girls who voted for Angels 2nd best lyric - rot! I know as many boys who like that song as girls who do. And it was written by a boy too. And I like being trainspotterish about records and I love football (yes, indeed, a lover of football can also love Woking Football Club). So there! And talking of football, my team in Italy, Atalanta, has signed Caniggia (a legend, non-footie fans). My friend Roby taught me the song they sing for him, which involves spurious references to sacks of South American powders. But I was drunk at the time and can't remember it in Italian, let alone attempt a translation. Drunken Kerry wrote: i said i wanted to boff one of his friends Blimey! Does it mean shag? When I heard the word boff at school, I thought they were taking the piss because I got my homework done on time. If only I'd known. And then Mark C wrote I also find the expression "having sex" sounds faintly unpleasant because of the connotation I lumber it with that it's a 100% physical, 0% emotional act. But surely it's preferable to "making love", which has a yuckfactor of Michael Boltonesque proportions. As opposed to my favourite old chestnut, "shagging", which is just great. Goodness gracious, what a lot of smut. Juicy Lucy =================================================== This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Oct 14 14:03:53 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:03:53 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Does Poetry Rock? Message-ID: <01bf1644$919f8100$LocalHost@itjfvkli> That woman in the Guardian is talking shite, isn't she? I bet she's "slightly soiled" as well. The Trousers Article read much more nicely than hers, the useless old trout. As veterans of Jeepster's underhand Brits campaign, we all know how Robbie Williams got to number two. His fans, little girls or not, are what the NME calls "techno-literate". I thought everyone thought "Bohemian Rhapsody" was a load of crap. I have to say that I think the debate between poetry and song lyrics is a bit redundant. After all, until the record industry came along and spoiled everything, they were just different words for the same thing. I have no evidence to back this theory up, apart from the fact that loads of poems begin "I sing my song and celebrate / the size of Murdoch's trouser snake", for example. And everybody knows that simple lyrics are better than complicated ones. I used to like clever lyrics, but I grew out of it. Now I prefer groove-centred instrumentals. For the record, I would have voted for "Our House" by Madness, and if pushed to choose a line, I would plump for "She's the one they're going to miss in lots of ways", a touching tribute to Madness's mum, that I'm sure Barry Sheene would appreciate. When my mate's mum got in a muddle with the camera, he said "Mums eh? They're all the same!" What a gent. Keith (17), thank you for deciding to close your disco at such a sensible hour. If only everyone else would follow your example. Props to Nick for sending those articles in. I think you deserve to have the record of your choice played at Keith's special disco. How about it, Keith? Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Thu Oct 14 15:48:43 1999 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:48:43 PDT Subject: Sinister: Yippie! Message-ID: <19991014144843.62648.qmail@hotmail.com> Uh!I actually thought I'd never get it.You know,with the list and all.Anyway,I got up this morning at 8.Surprisingly,it wasn't cold.So,I look out of the window and I see the castle here in Dudley being dark,because the sun was right behind it sneaking out from the clouds.I was in awe!!!!Mind me saying that but I put Elliott Smith on the stereo and flew away.And then I had a lecture,which was quite nice.But then I had another lecture.I didn't go.It is too beautyful a day to be in class having this full of negative vibes teacher talking with his really boring voice.So,I didn't go!Last night I got pissed and became the fool of the halls.It was fun,though! Well,I'm off now.I'll probably go to my room and have an exciting afternoon.Again.No B&S in any place around here,as a friend pointed out.WAKE UP YOU TWATS!I come here from fuckin bloody Greece and I know more?PLEASE!!!I need a decent rock place something and hurry! Now I'm angry.Cheers,Zoe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Alexandre.Tobin at xxx.nl Thu Oct 14 16:11:32 1999 From: Alexandre.Tobin at xxx.nl (Alexandre Tobin) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:11:32 +0200 Subject: Sinister: nalda said winners... Message-ID: <19991014150649875.AAA382@www-server.ucu.uu.nl@[131.211.105.90]> Sadly, the competition to win a free copy of Stuart David's novel 'Nalda Said' is over. The lucky winners are Helen McLean and Peter Mitchell. Congrats to both of them, and hopefully we'll be able to do another few compos in the future. Thanks also to everybody that sent in their answers (almost 45 entries...). Alex -++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++- -+++ alex tobin -+++ postbus 81-353 -+++ 3508 bh utrecht -+++ the netherlands -+++ -+++ phone +31.6.29208560 -+++ e-mail alex at pulped.co.uk -+++ website http://www.pulped.co.uk -+++ website http://www.postmodern.co.uk -+++ website http://www.popjourno.com -++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Thu Oct 14 16:28:12 1999 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:28:12 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I brought an Orange Juice album today, I wish I hadn't! Message-ID: <199910141128_MC2-8900-2D39@compuserve.com> I'm sorry if this has been said today but I haven't had time to read the past 28 posts. I'm that busy. But tonight on Radio 1, I think it's called, erm, the update or something, but I think it's with Steve Lamaqe (is that how it works?), well on Radio 1 tonight our hero, Mr Murdoch is on talking about some Scottish Socilism stuff. But if you want to hear if he talks like he sings, or perhaps want to find out if he just sings everything, then listen in! Rob <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> Green Sheep http://members.tripod.co.uk/wpwe Ivor Polanski http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Performance/4408 <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Thu Oct 14 17:04:07 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:04:07 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: nalda said winners... In-Reply-To: <19991014150649875.AAA382@www-server.ucu.uu.nl@[131.211.105.90]> Message-ID: Alexandre Tobin said: > Sadly, the competition to win a free copy of Stuart David's novel 'Nalda > Said' is over. The lucky winners are Helen McLean and Peter Mitchell. Crikey - that's my dad! I didn't even know he entered! He never entered the sweary competition... actually I think Alex means Peter Millllllller. Peter you can't now win the Sinister competition no matter how well you swear. You old stiffy! Any more swear-words? We've had "some more" entries for our very own Sinister Nalda competition since Tim's tragic Blue Peter appeal, but you've still got time. Closing date is midnight tonight, Edinburgh time. Hurry now. And - here's the latest Jeepster Nudes Bulletin, cut up 'n' edited just for you in a postmodern fashion to contain 100% B&S related content..ish. For those who aren't subscribed directly. Honeypie x ------ >From david at jeepster.co.uk Thu Oct 14 16:58:51 1999 From: David Kitchen LOOPER RECORD NEWS http://www.jeepster.co.uk/looper/ looper, brain-child of stuart david, are back, as a four piece and with a new double a-side single 'who's afraid of Y2K'/'up a tree again' released on the 18th october 1999 and backed with a very special remix. the full track listing is: 1- who's afraid of Y2K 2- up a tree again (stuart david re-edit) 3- up a tree again (pulp remix, also known as 'the chocolate layer st johns ambulance mix') stuart david on 'who's afraid of Y2K': "it came about from reading a lot of articles about the millennium bug - about things like the guys they had hired to fix the problems at the government buildings in america, working on it for a couple of days, till they realised how unfixable it was, and then all quitting the job and buying themselves land in the hills to build survival shelters to live in. and things like finding out that even richard madely from this morning and keith richards have their own survival cupboards at home. then i thought of how it was such a simple and avoidable problem, but how much damage it could do now. and i thought maybe it would cause a kind of natural revolution." ---------------- LOOPER TOUR NEWS to promote the forthcoming single and the publishing of his debut novel, looper will be appearing at a number of bookstores in the UK, check the stores for more details and start times: 16th oct 99 glasgow (UK) virgin megastore 18th oct 99 london (UK) virgin megastore, oxford street 20th oct 99 brighton (UK) borders (sallis benney theatre) 21st oct 99 nottingham (UK) virgin megastore 22nd oct 99 leeds (UK) virgin megastore each of the shows will be starting of with a looper-style reading from the novel, accompanied by films and stuff for about fifteen minutes. then they'll be doing a set of looper songs for around half an hour. ------------------------- LOOPER MISCELLANEOUS NEWS looper have expanded, new band member scott twynholm plays keyboards and live drum loops and has also helped Stuart David produce the latest single. ronnie black, stuart's brother is now full-time on guitar and karn david, his wife, still sings and plays as well as handling all the live visuals. ---------------- THE GENTLE WAVES http://www.jeepster.co.uk/thegentlewaves/ isobel is currently in the studio with various members of belle and sebastian and is recording her follow up to the successful 'green field of foreverland'. we hope to have this released spring/summer next year, but we'll keep you up to date with the progress. ------------------- BELLE AND SEBASTIAN http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ are still in and out of the studio working on the new album, they're also currently considering locations for a possible tour in the future to co-incide with the release of the album next year. other bits in the pipeline include the development of the lyrics/tablature book which should include illustrations by alisdair gray (if you haven't yet read his novel 'lanark' and are wondering who he is you should rush out and get it now; from either: amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0156003619/jeepsterrecord0a amazon.co.uk: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0330319655/jeepsterrecords ) -------------- END OF MESSAGE well, that's us done for once again. we'll mail again the next time we have something of substance to say :) as usual all corrections and comments (there are always some!) should be forwarded to myself at the address below. as a footnote, you may have noticed that the official jeepster belle and sebastian has moved from www.belleandsebastian.co.uk to http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ . but it's still the same site, and to underline it's the fact that it's the record label site, we've gone and made it look like the posters with the little black border on the top and everything :) . the band also have their own site at www.myspace.co.uk/belleandsebastian which is themed to resemble the glasgow public transport system. so there you have it, now you know where our site has moved to and what the difference is :) cheers david +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ jeepster own my soul david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd : http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ mailto:david at jeepster.co.uk : icq 28483699 : mobile 07930 116 705 po box 14153, london sw11 4xu, uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david at xxx.uk Thu Oct 14 17:11:54 1999 From: david at xxx.uk (David Kitchen) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:11:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Salako Single, Looper Single and lots of cool gigs :) Message-ID: <380600CA.A355BBD9@jeepster.co.uk> welcome to another jeepster update, this issue includes: NEW SALAKO SINGLE, TO BE GIVEN AWAY AT GIGS SALAKO TOUR AND PAVEMENT SUPPORT SNOW PATROL TOUR AND SUPERGRASS SUPPORT SNOW PATROL BEST NEWCOMER AWARD WINNER AT HOT PRESS LOOPER SINGLE LOOPER TOUR OF BOOKSTORES GENTLE WAVES IN STUDIO BELLE AND SEBASTIAN IN STUDIO, LOOKING TO TOUR AND WORKING ON TAB MUSIC BOOK ------------------ SALAKO RECORD NEWS http://www.jeepster.co.uk/salako/ musicality has hit the streets in the united kingdom and throughout europe. it's an expedition into the world of high-fidelity (no, not the novel) and is a true masterpiece. if you don't yet have it you can purchase it from us directly. it has just been released in the US through never records/proper distribution, so you should be able to order it in the US from most good stores. as a special treat for fans attending gigs, salako have created an EP that will be given away to the first 50 people through the door. it's entitled the 'mappleton sands' EP and is a six tracker at that! it even features THE best titled song that we've ever heard of: "the three crows of life vs the wood pigeon of death". the exact running order for the EP is; 1- san francisco baby rides 2- (have you heard) musicality 3- the answailians 4- the three crows of life vs the wood pigeon of death 5- you know it's true 6- the overhead projector theory we'll have artwork available reasonably soon, mp3 samples are already available on the salako site (http://www.jeepster.co.uk/salako/). the release date for this is provisionally set at 25th october in the UK, but this is a mere courtesy since it won't be available in the shops, we'll put a few for sale on the website for fans outside of the UK after the gigs, but the vast majority will only be available at forthcoming gigs. copies of their recent 'bird in the bag' limited 7" are still available to purchase through the jeepster shop, it includes the 'associate listener membership cards' which entitles the holder to various privileges. one of the privileges we are aware of is that, if you stop the band on the streets of hull and produce the card, they'll buy you a cup of tea! ---------------- SALAKO TOUR NEWS salako finally present 'musicality' in a live show, these are very exclusive gigs and promise to be exceptionally special. aside from the fact that the first 50 or so people through the door will be given the new limited edition EP for free, the hull gig also has a very, very special support band. check venues for ticket details. 19th oct 99 leeds (UK) the duchess of york 20th oct 99 nottingham (UK) bunkers hill 21st oct 99 manchester (UK) roadhouse 22nd oct 99 london (UK) the borderline (with model ford) box office: 0171 734 2095 ticketmaster: 0171 344 4444 stargreen: 0171 734 8932 or ticketweb.co.uk 27th oct 99 hull (UK) the adelphi 28th oct 99 liverpool (UK) royal court (bbc radio 1 sound city with stereolab & pavement) the following dates are as support for pavement: 18th nov 99 glasgow (UK) barrowlands 19th nov 99 manchester (UK) academy 20th nov 99 london (UK) brixton academy ----------------- SALAKO MEDIA NEWS following the CMJ festival in New York, www.spin.com (the website for the hugely successful US magazine) has an exclusive interview and 2 live songs available. the files can be viewed in Real Video and Windows Media formats (videos!) and can be found here: http://www.spin.com/signal/webcasts/1999/09/29/1/page2.html ----------------------- SNOW PATROL RECORD NEWS http://www.jeepster.co.uk/snowpatrol/ snow patrol will return to the studio in november to finish the long-awaited follow up to the brilliant 'songs for polar bears' which was released in the fall of 1998 to widespread acclaim. the new songs will include a few of the live favourites as well as debuting several astounding new songs. we'll keep you posted with developments. --------------------- SNOW PATROL TOUR NEWS continuing their never-ending tour, you can catch the 'patrol at the following gigs (check venues for ticket info). 21st oct 99 aberdeen (UK) the pelican (aberdeen alternative festival) 22nd oct 99 kirkcaldy (UK) the path tavern 23rd oct 99 kirkcaldy (UK) the path tavern 25th oct 99 norwich (UK) the arts centre 26th oct 99 colchester (UK) twist 27th oct 99 london (UK) scala (with high llamas & seafood & my vitriol) 29th oct 99 leeds (UK) the warehouse 4th nov 99 belfast (UK) morrisons (queens festival with reef) 5th nov 99 dublin (IE) eamonn dorans 6th nov 99 hull (UK) the adelphi the following european dates are as support for the mighty supergrass: 8th nov 99 utrecht (germany) music centre 9th nov 99 frankfurt (germany) batschkapp 10th nov 99 munich (germany) incognito 12th nov 99 modena (italy) vox 13th nov 99 rimini (italy) velvet 14th nov 99 roma (italy) palladium 15th nov 99 milan (italy) magazzini 17th nov 99 zurich (switzerland) abart 18th nov 99 stuttgart (germany) rohre 19th nov 99 koln (germany) kantine ---------------------- SNOW PATROL MEDIA NEWS snow patrol were nominated for two awards at this years hot press awards. the annual awards celebrate irish music, and the paper (which is often compared to that the nme, but for ireland) has been instrumental in having the band nominated after a huge demand from readers. they lost out on 'best single', but left the night gleefully clutching their 'best newcomer' award, that and the memories from offending one of the corrs! a web broadcast of the awards is available from the hot press website (http://www.hot-press.com/), you can also find out more information on the awards and the hot press paper on that site. in other news, following the CMJ festival in New York, www.spin.com (the website for the hugely successful US magazine) has an exclusive interview and live song available. the files can be viewed in Real Video and Windows Media formats (yes, they're videos!) and can be found here: http://www.spin.com/signal/webcasts/1999/09/29/1/index.html and finally, snow patrol will be joining the charlatans in performing backstage at the prestigious MTV europe music awards on november 11th. we're afraid that you can't get in to see it, but hopefully they'll come out with some rock 'n' roll stories to share! ------------------ LOOPER RECORD NEWS http://www.jeepster.co.uk/looper/ looper, brain-child of stuart david, are back, as a four piece and with a new double a-side single 'who's afraid of Y2K'/'up a tree again' released on the 18th october 1999 and backed with a very special remix. the full track listing is: 1- who's afraid of Y2K 2- up a tree again (stuart david re-edit) 3- up a tree again (pulp remix, also known as 'the chocolate layer st johns ambulance mix') stuart david on 'who's afraid of Y2K': "it came about from reading a lot of articles about the millennium bug - about things like the guys they had hired to fix the problems at the government buildings in america, working on it for a couple of days, till they realised how unfixable it was, and then all quitting the job and buying themselves land in the hills to build survival shelters to live in. and things like finding out that even richard madely from this morning and keith richards have their own survival cupboards at home. then i thought of how it was such a simple and avoidable problem, but how much damage it could do now. and i thought maybe it would cause a kind of natural revolution." ---------------- LOOPER TOUR NEWS to promote the forthcoming single and the publishing of his debut novel, looper will be appearing at a number of bookstores in the UK, check the stores for more details and start times: 16th oct 99 glasgow (UK) virgin megastore 18th oct 99 london (UK) virgin megastore, oxford street 20th oct 99 brighton (UK) borders (sallis benney theatre) 21st oct 99 nottingham (UK) virgin megastore 22nd oct 99 leeds (UK) virgin megastore each of the shows will be starting of with a looper-style reading from the novel, accompanied by films and stuff for about fifteen minutes. then they'll be doing a set of looper songs for around half an hour. ------------------------- LOOPER MISCELLANEOUS NEWS looper have expanded, new band member scott twynholm plays keyboards and live drum loops and has also helped Stuart David produce the latest single. ronnie black, stuart's brother is now full-time on guitar and karn david, his wife, still sings and plays as well as handling all the live visuals. ---------------- THE GENTLE WAVES http://www.jeepster.co.uk/thegentlewaves/ isobel is currently in the studio with various members of belle and sebastian and is recording her follow up to the successful 'green field of foreverland'. we hope to have this released spring/summer next year, but we'll keep you up to date with the progress. ------------------- BELLE AND SEBASTIAN http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ are still in and out of the studio working on the new album, they're also currently considering locations for a possible tour in the future to co-incide with the release of the album next year. other bits in the pipeline include the development of the lyrics/tablature book which should include illustrations by alisdair gray (if you haven't yet read his novel 'lanark' and are wondering who he is you should rush out and get it now; from either: amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0156003619/jeepsterrecord0a amazon.co.uk: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0330319655/jeepsterrecords ) -------------- END OF MESSAGE well, that's us done for once again. we'll mail again the next time we have something of substance to say :) as usual all corrections and comments (there are always some!) should be forwarded to myself at the address below. as a footnote, you may have noticed that the official jeepster belle and sebastian has moved from www.belleandsebastian.co.uk to http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ . but it's still the same site, and to underline it's the fact that it's the record label site, we've gone and made it look like the posters with the little black border on the top and everything :) . the band also have their own site at www.myspace.co.uk/belleandsebastian which is themed to resemble the glasgow public transport system. so there you have it, now you know where our site has moved to and what the difference is :) cheers david +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ jeepster own my soul david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd : http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ mailto:david at jeepster.co.uk : icq 28483699 : mobile 07930 116 705 po box 14153, london sw11 4xu, uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Thu Oct 14 17:27:39 1999 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:27:39 GMT Subject: Sinister: Terminator Roolz speaks with his hands Message-ID: <380601f5.109624@post.demon.co.uk> Hello Little Ones, What a thrilling week it's been. I was overjoyed to read Nick's updates on the new found celebrity status of Sinister's answer to Garry Bushell, Stephen "Column Inches" Trousers. What a woolly bloody liberal you are, Trousers, talking to the Independent. Or did you just think that the Indie was a fanzine? Personally, I only give interviews to "Living Marxism", "Hustler" and "Country Life". It's the perfect balance. Oh, and Trousers....where's my sodding "Papercuts"? Aside from Poetic of Rotherhithe, I'm pleased to see quite a few other bids for stardom from our little group. We already know about Funky Seb interpreting Moby via the medium of dance, and are relishing Keef and Klur's reinvention as Mr and Mrs Stringfellow. But how many noticed the fragrant Miss Wumpkinny totally upstaging Kirtsy Young on last week's "Stars in their Eyes" Celebrity Final, with her "Britney Spears unplugged" routine? It really happened, apart from the Britney Spears bit. Talking of Britney, which I was and you all should be, I was late for work this morning, so engrossed was I by Zoe Ball's interview with the Thinking Man's Isobel Campbell herself. She said very flattering things about boys with ginger hair, so I reckon she fancies me. The Britney-Wump connection continued when Ms Spears revealed that her birthday is just one day after my live-in lover's, so I think we should have a great big party in their honour. Oh yes, the Ambrosia ad. Is that Tim Hopkins riding a moo-cow from London to his native Devon? And is that Andy Dean and Steady Mike disguised as the Village People in the background? And do Tim's fellow Devonians, Adrian Evans and Piezo Erotic Unit, really "like it with their oats on top"? I think they do. I am now the proud owner of my very own Pissing Boy, courtesy of Madame Oon and her exotic palace of soul. Thank you very much, Madame Oon, bathtime is even more fun than usual, even though Pissing Boy's, shall we say,"Yul Bryner" is giving me an inferiority complex. Can someone explain to me why that Maria Carey video features an old lady sitting on the toilet with her panteloonies round her ankles? It's good to see "Gregory's Two Girls" getting good reviews. I was a Doubting Tag when I first heard about it, but now I'm full of hope that this could be a "Stolen Kisses" to "Gregory's Girl"'s "Les quatre cents coups". Apparently, only two of the original cast are in the new one. One is obviously Gregory, so if there is a god, please please please let the other one be Phil Menzies. At this week's meeting of the South Manchester Sinisterines DIY Society, Warrander John and myself decided that we would happily kill for a copy of the "Gregory's Girl" endearingly Eighties soundtrack. So if you have such a copy, send it to me this instant or you die. That's your lot. Just be grateful I speak to you at all. Love tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Thu Oct 14 17:37:06 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:37:06 -0400 (EWT) Subject: Sinister: A message for poor Dan Hooper Message-ID: I was touched by Dan's message, but I think the reason he got into the situation to get the bruised heart was because there is really no way to accurately judge how someone is going to be *in person* by lengthy e--mails and phone calls. Too much of the context of living is divorced from those situations to accurately judge how perfect someone is going to be (and no one is perfect.) I think at times , especially among the #sinister folk, I have alienated them by saying how stupid internet long distance relationships are. Well, I have changed my stance. It can work, but only when the people meet initially and use the medium to communicate cheaply. Because then you knew what they were like in person before you went on your best guess as it were. I mean, I guess the other is possible too, but it's not as likely and is certainly not a situation I would get myself into. Hmmm. This message was to reassure Dan, but I have a feeling I have opened a can of worms. Sorry. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Thu Oct 14 17:46:53 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:46:53 EDT Subject: Sinister: It was a fix! Message-ID: <0.46fcb8e0.253762fd@aol.com> Hola. Didn't you just bloody know that we would get England in the Euro 2000 play-offs?.I mean granted if we qualify at their expense it'll be yay! and dancing in the streets,but what if THEY win?.(I'll reach for the razor-blades and end it all).On a more positive note,we could have a sinister Scotland/England thing...poetry and lyric reciting,singing and dancing rather than thugs jumping on each other's heads.Imagine. Steve S xx. I'm really rather excited. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MM_KULIK at xxx.EDU Thu Oct 14 18:17:30 1999 From: MM_KULIK at xxx.EDU (MM_KULIK at xxx.EDU) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:17:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: American in Glasgow Message-ID: <01JH4HG2OAN6A3GCJ4@ACAD.FANDM.EDU> Hello everyone... i think i have probably posted maybe 3 times ever on the list but i have been receiving it for quite some time...therefore, nobody knows me, so i will introduce myself. my name is Moira and i'm from America (outside Philadelphia, incidentally), but i am in glasgow until christmas studying at the university of glasgow. this is the funny thing i have discovered...when i talk to people around here about music, when i mention belle & sebastian, they say something like, 'oh, yes, i've heard of them,' or 'i know one or two of their songs,' or, most surprisingly, 'who???' granted, none of the people i've asked have actually been from glasgow but they're all scottish (or sometimes english) and i would have thought they would be more familiar, but i know more americans who listen to them than scots, so far (of course, most of those americans are my friends who i've forced to listen to my b&s records and eventually converted into fans, with very little effort on my part...but it doesn't matter!). i find this all a bit strange. and when i went into fopp's yesterday they had only TBWTAS and tigermilk...no EPs, no sinister, just those two. i was very upset about this because i had intended to complete my collection by buying dog on wheels, but i will have to wait until i find a record shop or go back to america. i did pick up the divine comedy's 'fin de siecle' on sale for #7...they are having a huge sale on lots of quality items so if anyone is in the market for cheap records i would suggest stopping in and having a look. anyway...since none of my friends here can help me by alerting me to upcoming b&s-related events in glasgow, i would be most appreciative if you all would let me know when things are occurring because i would be most excited to attend...i always get very jealous, reading about picnics and club nights and things from my computer in the states and now i can actually join in, yay!!! so please keep the updates coming, and let me know of anything else in glasgow and the surrounding areas (i.e. the UK) that i may be interested to know. p.s. brandt, yes, you are absolutely right to feel the way you do about your mother's situation (sorry i can't quote the original message here...) -- i would feel the same way. but it's always a precarious situation to try and give advice to your parents about their personal lives, especially when they know you're right and they're wrong -- they don't like to hear that from their children. but every once in a while my parents ASK for my opinion and it is quite refreshing. THANK YOU one and all!!! this city is lovely and i don't want to leave in 9 weeks. xoxo moira ===== Moira Kulik Queen Margaret Hall 55 Bellshaugh Road Kirklee Glasgow G12 OSQ Scotland 0141.334.2192 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris.jones at xxx.uk Thu Oct 14 21:03:40 1999 From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:03:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Adverts Message-ID: <199910142016.VAA26751@smtp.saqnet.co.uk> Can anybody tell me what that song is on the CGU advert. The chorus is 'We Could Be Heroes'. I'm sure I'm supposed to know what it is, but I don't, and it's great. Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seyfert7 at xxx.com Thu Oct 14 21:30:07 1999 From: seyfert7 at xxx.com (deb s) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 20:30:07 GMT Subject: Sinister: ontario meetup Message-ID: <19991014203008.2814.qmail@hotmail.com> Oi, Maybe that is being a bit too broad, Toronto better? Sorry to *abuse* the list this way, but hardly anyone seems to read the meetups page. We've been asked to give plenty of notice for possible meetup dates, so out of towners can arrange to come in, if they are so inclined. I was speaking to Teri the other day about organising something in the absense of Songs for Children, and since we had planned awhile back to have an October meet. How does the weekend after the cancelled SfC sound? That's early November, past midterms and such. I believe it is the weekend of the 5or6or7th. Something like that? I've even got an old sinisterite transferring my b&s video tape so that it's acceptable for canadian viewers. That can be my lure. Anybody want to see ALL the b&s videos....come to our meet up...meet lots of lov-e-ly people. Don't be shy. Like I used to be. Anyhow. All we have now is a *possible* date but still no real plans. Picnics are out, so what is left? An old pub that has but two frequenters? I don't know. Mail me if you have suggestions, or are interested in coming along. cheers deb xxx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From funkyseb at xxx.com Thu Oct 14 23:24:37 1999 From: funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 23:24:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Funkyseb & the Cottage of doom Message-ID: <009b01bf1695$81d4ac40$0d947ed4@hp-pavilion> Honey wrote: >Everyone knows this is a Thai-based B&S list, and I was very surprised >to see the following news a bit ago: that the American sitcom "Joannie >Loves Chachi" was banned in Thailand, because Chachi means "penis". It was the title of an episode of Mork and Mindy. Apparently it was the idea of the very hairy Mr Robin Williams, who liked "slipping" "rude things" "in", and there's an episode with a "Mr Bollocks" in it that's never been shown in Britain. ABSOLUTELY TRUE, according to The Grauniad. So probably not really. Anyway, I thought I'd tell you about my strange experience today. Like many sad men, I use my penis solely for pissing. It's not fair, I know, but there we are. Anyway, I was wandering prettily through London's louche and fashionable Bromley by Bow, when I realised that my bladder was absolutely bursting. SO imagine my delight, as I saw the welcoming steps of a lovely old lavatory. I dashed across the road, knees straight, buttocks clenched, rushed down the steps and, with an ecstacy of fumbling, found my trouser sausage just in time. ROCK ON! It was only as the last drops of willy beer gurgled away down the drain that I noticed what I'd walked into. The air was smoky, the atmosphere close- all the lightbulbs removed, bar one. The room was tense with men, huddling away from the light like anti-moths. From one of the stalls came the sound of ernest moaning- two men finding their natural rhythm, intuitively responding to each others moves. I was confused- lost- but strangely transfixed. They reached an orgasmic climax, and then, it all went quiet. And then the saxophone solo kicked in. For twenty minutes. Freeform. I fought my way out, but the Gaulois laden air was like jam, or maybe treacle. Finally, I reached the door, and gulping in the daylight, I turned for one look back. The cubicle door opened. "Well I think that went quite well", said the first man, the spit of Jules Holland. "Aye, it did," said the other, his red haired friend. "Now can you move your boogie woogie piano, I'm trapped behind the cistern". I thought of my encounter for the rest of the day- a brief glimpse of a furtive, underground world. A world of roll necks, and horns. And Bongos. I also saw Stuart M rimming Whispering Bob Harris in a superloo in Spitalfields, but that's another long winded not very funny story. B&S swearing? Well I've got rather witty subtitle for Stuart David's book. It's "The (Diamond)Ring of Truth" Hahahahaha! Ring, like an arse. D'you see? Oh well, please yourselves. Great! P!O!P! thing that book. But it's rather sad, so don't read it if you cry easily. It's got a fox in it, mind, which almost makes up for the sad bits. Oh I'll piss off now. seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From simon.allstar at xxx.net Fri Oct 15 06:46:55 1999 From: simon.allstar at xxx.net (Simon Bell) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:46:55 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Bowie weekender. Message-ID: <000301bf16d0$eff54320$6288bc3e@oemcomputer> Dear Mr Chris Jones, It is Heroes by David Bone Face Bowie. Love Outta-Space-Si Dear other people and pets, I'm thinking of starting a record label. Does anyone know of anyone that knows someone who may want someone to put a record out for them? You can e-mail privately, like a secret agent. Or reply here, I'm not that choosy. Only... they can't be poo. poo = cast, ocean colour scene, skunk anaseed, chipawumba oh this could go on and on and on and on and... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Thu Oct 14 23:20:40 1999 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:20:40 PDT Subject: Sinister: and my favorite color is orange Message-ID: <19991014222040.16886.qmail@hotmail.com> hello all folks young or young at heart: everything here wonderful or not too dissappointing anyway. I'm in the mood for adventure or at least a ride on a bicycle. I don't have a bicycle but i certainly feel like I should be on one... something about the rhythm of my life; wind on face, a short-lived feeling of exhiliration, a short-lived feeling of sadness... and in general a sort of gladness to just be alive, even if it goes on unrecognized, pedal pedal. Even though I'm really sitting in an office, wondering if my plant needs watering. Nothing is going on in my life, just living. I feel like arranging a group of flowers. I feel like making a mobile of colored paper. buying a nicer pair of headphones going home. the new pair of headphones because I've noticed that the music that I like the most brings me to a different place in my many pictures of life, like looking through life through different prisms. and it makes me think of new things. and how can you do that with a lousy pair of headphones that makes me ignore the music? because whatever I make out of the music takes on the qualities of what I'm hearing, and if the music is crystal than the world I make up in my head is crystal, and if the song is full of hope than the world is full of hope, and if it's full of boy wonder (b&s) than the world is full of boy wonder. and if it sounds faded in my headphones, then I get nowhere, and i feel like i should be washing dishes or something. Does anyone in the california bay area know of the stanford radio (90.1)program That Pop Thing? it used to be on last year, and now it's on thursdays 6-9 am again now school's in, and today they put a song on called King of the Bongos and it made me pretty happy and a little bit silly. that show makes me happy. it's good to listen to, openminded, playing everything from jesus and mary chain to sleater kinney to the lilys... makes me want to hug him. byebye cynthia ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redden at xxx.com Thu Oct 14 23:25:07 1999 From: redden at xxx.com (danielle redden) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:25:07 -0400 Subject: Sinister: doo da doo da Message-ID: there is a girl sitting next to me wearing lots of fleece. and her cell phone just rang to the tune of "campdown(sp?) races". and i laughed, well it came out more like a snort. she wasnt pleased. girls around here are scarey. uni girls with lots of money. however, i only have a way with women every third day, or that's what they tell me. i'm just a girl, so i wouldnt know. i havent contributed to the list since the few days following the bowlie where all my time was spent on the computer avoiding my work and giggling all over the 'i saw you' board. that was sometime ago. i made a little promise to never write unless i read all the messages, but i've been a busy girl these days. and you kids just keep on writing. but i'm all caught up now. oh, go on, give me a gold star. it's been a blustery day and i was carried all the way from my doorstep, down 17th street, and right up to the train station by a big gust of wind. now i'll go home and make soup and watch the sut set by the river. i may even pull out the leg warmers. hmmmmm. good news: 1.hefner is playing a halloween show in philadelphia. i live there, so you can imagine my happiness. 2. daniel johnston is also in philly next week with a band(?). i really dont understand how the man can play on stage with other people, but i guess i'll find out. by the way i am in love with daniel johnston despite the fact he is a fat man with a lisp. one more thing.... lucy wrote... But surely it's preferable to "making love", which has a yuckfactor of Michael Boltonesque proportions. i say "making love" all the time and i hate michael bolton. it is a bit silly i guess. but 'having sex' just sounds off, 'fuck' sounds like rape, and if i was to say 'shag' in the states everyone would think i was trying to be austin powers.when i was in london a few weeks ago i was conversing a bit with some non-hearing kids about the differences between american sign language (which i know a little of) and english sign language (which i know nothing of). the sign for "sex" in ESL is poking your index finger of your left hand into a hole made by your right hand. in ASL the sign for "sex" is signing "i love you" with both hands and making a circular motion with your hands one on top of the other. (i hope you can all visualize this) i found this little cultural difference fascinating. oh course from my own experiences i have met very few american boys who 'make love', but i wont go on about that, since this e is already entirely too long. go make some love, danielle Whaat!!! Have you tried The Doghouse??! Get your FREE WEB-BASED EMAIL account at: http://doghousemail.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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Message-ID: <000701bf16c2$eb12af40$a51574cc@woody> love me love me like a cardigans song, well i have returned home for a few days to realize what it is that i'm missing away at school. i think i'm missing a lot--my sanity for one thing. school is so frustrating. we all convince ourselves that grades and courses matter when in ten years all i'll remember about university is how the food always tasted like shite. bollocks, i'll never be content. i was just watching loveline and they mentioned fetishes--i'm not sure this counts as a full blown fetish, but i have a thing with girls and spectacles. it drives me absolutely bonkers. especially if they're the big NHS distributed kind. then i forget my name. one of these days i won't be able to remember it. getting back to my confession, my dream is being swept off of my feet by a succulent girl in glasses. it's just a dream, mind you. i have that feeling that soon here i'm going to get swept off of my feet. does anyone else ever get that feeling? like things are all starting to happen at odd yet opportune times, like things are aligning to finally throw you a break? hopefully this time it won't break my nose when it hits me in my face. hooray for vinyl, as i'm completely rebuilding my WHO collection through it. that includes 80s WHO as well. is there a good online shop to buy lots and lots and lots of new/used vinyl? b&s would be ace with the crack and pop of the turntable. i'm in the process of trying to get a more up to date pic of myself on something somewhere, but don't hold your breath, not that there's anyone who is. oh, and i'm moving to london sometime soon. if i appear at your doorstep, soaked with rain, glasses foggy, suitcase soggy and eyelashes limp, would you turn me away? i would hope not. especially if you're a girl with spectacles. love blake xx the nerdy shy eyed pacifist +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.livingston at xxx.au Fri Oct 15 05:23:14 1999 From: m.livingston at xxx.au (MICHAEL LIVINGSTON) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:23:14 +1000 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Introductions and all that nonsense Message-ID: Hi all, At last I've been allowed out of the nursery and been let in with the big kids. I figured I might as well right to you all just to introduce myself and kill some time. Actually, mainly to kill time - I've got 3 assignments due on Monday and I can't do any of them so I need something to do to keep my mind off my problems. Well, I'm Michael Livingston from Brisbane Australia - unfortunately B+S have made very little impression on Brisbane's sunny shores as yet, very occasionally the local community radio station will play something off one of the albums, but that's as far as it goes. Sort of sums up Brisbane in some ways. Let me exlain. Last night Rebecca Gates (Spinanes) and Sam Prekop (the sea and cake) played in town. I think the Spinanes have been here once 3 or so years ago and as far as I know Sam Prekop hasn't made the trip here before so you would think that all the indie kids in Brissy would dust off their dancing shoes (or maybe just their normal shoes if they're a bit self-conscious) and head out to see some of America's finest. Alas, maybe 40 people turned up and can be split into the following categories: 10 - friends of the opening band who were locals 10 - people who had paid the money to come, but were quite content to sit around and chat the whole time. 20 - enthusiastic audience members. So that's a snapshot of Brisbane's enthusiasm towards slightly obscure bands (a category that B+S (see how I worked them back in to keep it all on topic) unfortunately fit into in Oz). Whoops, my first post to the list was a big whinge. I'm really much cheerier than that usually. Honest. While I'm here: A guy called Tim mentioned: > Lucksmiths albums: I now have some, and they are very good. Don't think > anything else needs to be said about these. Although it was mentioned specifically that nothing else needed to be said I just wanted to add my parochial support to the Lucksmiths and confirm that they are indeed very good. Ah well, the feelings of guilt are overwhelming me so I'm going to get back into the fun that my statistics assignment has to offer. Mick +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lost_madflowr at xxx.com Fri Oct 15 06:57:35 1999 From: lost_madflowr at xxx.com (lost madflowr) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:57:35 PDT Subject: Sinister: meet up in DC this saturday - ANNE SUMMERS/THE HANG UPS Message-ID: <19991015055736.49527.qmail@hotmail.com> okay kiddies. i just posted on the meet up board this same info but i felt i'd elaborate a bit. and i just posted this to the indie pop list too. so sorry if you're on both! yes there is a bit of b&s content. scroll down. scroll down. the garage is located at 1214B 18th Street, NW Washington D.C. the show is sadly 18+. the bands playing and the times they go on are: 9:30 Evelyn Forever (Asbury Park, NJ) 10:30 The Hang Ups (Minneapolis, MN) 11:30 Anne Summers (Falls Church, VA) i guarantee that you will have a great time. after the bands are done, mark, the dj who spins at mousetrap/the living room/cold rice, will be spinning until 3 A.M. so be sure to wear your dancing shoes! i really must suggest that you check out this show. anne summers (3 guys not a folk singing girl) are a great power pop band from the d.c. area. some of their influences include the smiths, billy bragg, weezer, etc. their live act is always a whole lot of fun too. evelyn forever are also cute power pop. they've played with anne summers before down here and they're quite lively. and of course the hang ups!!! whee. i swear they're one of my new favourite bands. their live act is super sweet. their lead singer brian is like a little rabbit. cuddly and shy. purr. and there's been a lot of talk about the hang ups on the list these days so you should catch em if you're in the area. and of course mark is spinning the popscene afterwards and there'll be dancing til 3. if you know anyone who might want to check this out then fwd it to them. i've been handing out fliers and feeling like a ninny so i do hope a number of you show up! ==clip== hello. i have to work at 8:30 am. poop. the dj has played b&s when he spun at the mousetrap [which is coming up 23 october 99 at the metro cafe] and we need more people to jump around to b&s at this thing. i'm 99.9999% sure he'll play a few b&s songs. at the least he'll play one. pulp, the smiths, blur, etc will be played too i'm sure. so come on come on... dance dance dance. bleeep. i'll see you there. if you're sinister and in the dc area and want to join the sinisterdc list then go join: http://sinisterdc.listbot.com basically it's a mini list just to let each other know when we're doing something in the dc area. picnic time soon maybe? before the first snowflake falls hopefully? evol, madflowr np: revolver - baby's angry ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ASpawnyGit at xxx.com Fri Oct 15 09:06:58 1999 From: ASpawnyGit at xxx.com (ASpawnyGit at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 04:06:58 EDT Subject: Sinister: Do you *Really* feel like dancing? Message-ID: <0.b369e393.25383aa2@aol.com> OK. After a night of being dragged to the local "Place where all the kids dance." I had a horrible time. Is it odd to not feel compelled to dance, even though the music and lights are so enticing? If you have ever seen the movie "Kids" then you know the part where the girl walks into the club...lights flashing, music bouncing, dark shady characters come up to her. That's my story, only I didn't take any drugs and I didn't get sexually molested afterward. Nonetheless.....my mates abroad tell me everyone dances at the clubs...and I feel like I might not be so cool once I make it to Glasgow...cause I would rather find a corner full of darkness to smoke cigarettes and drink beer and hope some nice girl will sit down and relate to my uneasiness. Anyway, cheers. From Knoxville, TN. Sorry...this is totally unrelated to belle and sebastian. -Bradley +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From coool_air at xxx.com Fri Oct 15 10:15:25 1999 From: coool_air at xxx.com (Claire Timmins) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 02:15:25 PDT Subject: Sinister: kool klubbing Message-ID: <19991015091525.74463.qmail@hotmail.com> darlings. I have some amazing news that will interest you all. TONIGHT, yes TONIGHT..ooo shes the girl with the curls in her haiair...Not only are the best tunes wiggling their way down to the lovely underground site of the 13th note cafe but the booze, I said BOOZE paula, is dead cheap. yeeha!!!! 1 pound a spirit and mixer if you cant make it you're a fool. And i mean that sincerely. Oh aye - im still pissed from last night. see youse all later then? Klur** ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david at xxx.uk Fri Oct 15 09:54:21 1999 From: david at xxx.uk (David Kitchen) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:54:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Adverts References: <199910142016.VAA26751@smtp.saqnet.co.uk> Message-ID: <3806EBBD.F54BF91B@jeepster.co.uk> Chris Jones wrote: > > Can anybody tell me what that song is on the CGU advert. The chorus is 'We > Could Be Heroes'. I'm sure I'm supposed to know what it is, but I don't, > and it's great. > > Chris Jones. it's david bowie and 'heroes' from the album of the same name, the amazon listing and reviews can be found here; http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00001OH7V/jeepsterrecord0a cheers david +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ jeepster own my soul david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd : http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ mailto:david at jeepster.co.uk : icq 28483699 : mobile 07930 116 705 po box 14153, london sw11 4xu, uk to subscribe to the news mailing list mailto:majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with 'subscribe news' in the body of the message +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Fri Oct 15 11:43:23 1999 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:43:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Kids from Degrassi Street Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19991015104323.0071bad0@ampsys.co.uk> Dear all, Thank you all kindly for your concern over my hot water and the Gas board situation*. It has finally been resolved and that lingering smell I was fostering / festering has been warmly showered off*. I can only apologise to all those out at the wonderful Hefners the other night for having to experience my lingering stink*. Only joking*! I don't give a toss really*. My brother is cool*. It's official*. He came round with the Spearmint album, as heralded in the latest delightful Papercuts issue, and let me borrow it*. Then he analysed Hefner and mentioned their similarity to Wreckless Eric*. But then he blew it all by going back to being a boring old tosser and whittering on about golf again*. But for one minute there I almost acknowledged his existence*. Only joking*! I don't give a toss really*. As for that Tim Hopkins what a streaming wet unbridled aclohol induced lump of excretion he really is. And remember kids that was just for fun*. Why doesn't anyone talk about Pokemon on the list*? And while on the intercourse theme and the Atlantic divide in its linguistic reference could someone eleborate on the baseball analogy for courting*. That is, what exactly has to be done to be on 1st, 2nd, 3rd base and get a home run*. And do you get anything for a bunt*? Gosh, that's all made me feel like a bit of "dancing" now*. Anyone up for it*? Te ra, Martin ear confection recordings (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) * - bollocks +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Fri Oct 15 13:31:10 1999 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 05:31:10 PDT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19991015123111.39983.qmail@hotmail.com> OK.I'm sorry everybody if I'm wining.I know,I don't seem that pleasant.But please do spare mo.I mean I've moved in another country for the next 4 years.It's only natural,don't you think?And you,Dan Hooper,stop picking on me.I was just sharing my inner thoughts with you guys.When I first read the messages on the list even though we're all strangers to each other,it felt really cosy.Sorry.Honestly.I'm actually in a bad mood these days and it's all about love.It always is. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Fri Oct 15 13:40:28 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:40:28 -0400 (EWT) Subject: Sinister: Long night Message-ID: Hello my musical support group. I don't know why I always feel the need to express my thoughts or talk about my personal life on this list, especially since it is not particularly exciting or interesting but I do. A particularly horrible week has become worse--last night they admitted my mom to the hospital. Something is seriously wrong with her and before I left the hospital last night she handed me paperwork for a living will, telling me that my brother and I would have power of attorney. I don't really want to deal with that. It's bad enough that my grandparents are falling apart--now my mom too. Then my brother told me that he and my dad had a blow out last night. My dad is such an ass, and less than a man, because he is gutless and a horrible father. I came to work today, because I needed something to focus on; not to worry about things that I have no control of. My mom encouraged me to do so. I sometimes feel that when I vent like this I am being self centered. I mean what makes my problems so much bigger than everyone else's? I mean, because really they aren't. But they seem like it to me. I don't know. Maybe I never will. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Fri Oct 15 14:19:53 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:19:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Long night References: Message-ID: <004501bf170f$f8ddd8a0$25033c3e@default> Fuck what other people think. If telling your problems to the list makes you feel even 0.0000001% better, then it's worth it, and none of us have the right to grudge you for it. Good luck with everything, man, and I hope that your mum gets better soon. -- Jason Andreas -- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people ICQ: 45821217 ----- Original Message ----- From: Brandt Fundak To: Sent: 15 October 1999 13:40 Subject: Sinister: Long night > > Hello my musical support group. I don't know why I always feel the need > to express my thoughts or talk about my personal life on this list, > especially since it is not particularly exciting or interesting but I do. > > A particularly horrible week has become worse--last night they admitted my > mom to the hospital. Something is seriously wrong with her and before I > left the hospital last night she handed me paperwork for a living will, > telling me that my brother and I would have power of attorney. I don't > really want to deal with that. It's bad enough that my grandparents are > falling apart--now my mom too. Then my brother told me that he and my dad > had a blow out last night. My dad is such an ass, and less than a man, > because he is gutless and a horrible father. > > I came to work today, because I needed something to focus on; not to worry > about things that I have no control of. My mom encouraged me to do so. > > I sometimes feel that when I vent like this I am being self centered. I > mean what makes my problems so much bigger than everyone else's? I mean, > because really they aren't. But they seem like it to me. > > I don't know. Maybe I never will. > > Brandt > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jbaze at xxx.com Fri Oct 15 15:27:08 1999 From: jbaze at xxx.com (Josh Baze) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:27:08 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Do Not Open This Jealousy-Inducing Email! Message-ID: <072439845C05D311A3E90004ACB8B73410D264@REVEXCHANGE> Hello everyone, I wanted to share with you the good cd shopping fortune I had last night! For a grand total of $28 dollars (1,215 rupees, or 8,469 drachmas) I picked up: Momus- the little red song book (original!) Hefner- breaking God's heart Exodus Quartet- way out there John Lennon- plastic ono band I'm pretty excited about all this, and thought you all may be able to appreciate it. Did see two copies of Tigermilk (new), and plenty of used Richard Marx. have great weekends, everyone. headphones set to stun- Josh +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Fri Oct 15 18:12:44 1999 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:12:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Oh, it makes me MMMAD! Message-ID: <3807608C.AC7E98E4@cs.strath.ac.uk> Deary me, what an annoying day yesterday. While waiting for a bus I realised that someone had nicked the batteries I was going to put in my walkman from my pocket, along with my chewing gum. This meant that I had to sit on a bus for half an hour without music, which is rubbish in itself. Bloody hell, what a tragic state of affairs I hear you say, surely things cannot get any worse. Well chums, they did. I got to the club where Vic Godard was playing only to find out the bleedin' gig had been cancelled. Bollocks. Then I played pool for the rest of the night, missed my last bus home by literally 20 seconds and had to pay 14 quid for a taxi home. Double bollocks. Anyway, Keith: > and it will feature the DJ-ing "talents" of myself, Claire > Timmins, Mick and Alasdair Cooke (not Alasdair from the list, but Mick (48) > Cooke's Brother). Bloody hell, bet that gave every Glasgow listee a stroke. Keith would have to be barmy to let me and my record collection loose on an unsuspecting public. I mean there'd be no 70s WHO for a start. Mind you, Klur's doing it and she freely admits to being shit, so I suppose anything goes. Steve: > Didn't you just bloody know that we would get England in the Euro 2000 > play-offs?.I mean granted if we qualify at their expense it'll be yay! and > dancing in the streets,but what if THEY win?.(I'll reach for the razor-blades > and end it all).On a more positive note,we could have a sinister > Scotland/England thing...poetry and lyric reciting,singing and dancing rather > than thugs jumping on each other's heads.Imagine. Can't we jump on each other's heads instead, it'd be far more fun. During my trips down to London it's been all I can do to stop myself laying into all those English types with a garden chair and a pitchfork. Perhaps we should all congregate in a pub in Switzerland to watch the games. Do you know in today's Daily Record, the first 8 pages (plus the back 7 pages) are taken up with stuff about the game. Far more important than those silly Scottish fighter pilots who died, who are deservingly on page 9. Juicy: > Just realised that parentheses must be as catchy as crabs because I've > obviously caught brackets off somebody on this list. Better than rickets I > suppose. But you can't catch rickets because it's caused by vitamin > deficiency or something. Vitamin D deficiency to be precise. And vitamin A deficiency causes night-blindness, vitamin B deficiency causes beri beri and vitamin C deficiency causes scurvy. That may be the single most boring thing I've ever said (which is saying something), but I've just realised it's about the only thing I've ever read that I can remember, apart from stuff about football. Martin: > And while on the intercourse theme and the Atlantic divide in its > linguistic reference could someone eleborate on the baseball analogy for > courting*. That is, what exactly has to be done to be on 1st, 2nd, 3rd base > and get a home run*. Let me explain Martin. 1st base: This involves seeing a pretty girl who works in a cafe, bookshop or record store, and frequenting the establishment as much as possible. A form of stalking if you will, only without the need to hide behind lamposts. 2nd base: This involves finding out the girl's name. It might be "Brenda" or "Alison" or even "Moon Unit". 3rd base: This involves touching. Don't get scared now kids, I'm talking about cunningly brushing up against said girl, perhaps while she is serving coffee or rearranging the sale items. Bonus points are scored if you can get her to brush up against your naughty bits. Even more bonus points are scored if you can get her naughty bits to brush against your naughty bits. Home run: This involves talking. Since your mouth will be very dry, it is prudent to carry an emergency flask of ribena as a saliva substitute. This will also mean that you will smell nice, like blackberries. Go up to the girl, say "hello, my name is (insert name). I like you" in a squeaky voice, then run as fast as you can until you get home (hence the term "home run") and never go back into the shop ever again. If you do go back the girl may say that she likes you back, which would be disastrous and could lead to the rubbing of naughty bits WITHOUT CLOTHES. This is too be avoided at all costs as you will inevitably be TOO SMALL and will eventually have to kill yourself. Hope that clarifies things for you Robbo. I'm off to pull loads of birds my passing myself off as Mick Cooke's brother. This'll be too easy. Alasdair xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From susannah at xxx.net Fri Oct 15 20:09:36 1999 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 99 19:09:36 GMT Subject: Sinister: I wonder what you people do with your lives Message-ID: <991015190936.n0029870.garton@mail.clara.net> Kids. Morrisey! Did you all see Harry Hill 'do' Morrisey on Celebrity Stars in their Eyes last Saturday? Fantastic. I've seen Trousers 'do' Morrisey too, and that was also equally fantastic. Do you remember that guy who used to hang round Highbury Garage on a permanent Morrisey trip? If you know him or have seen him recently then write in stating whether he still is. Closing date next Wednesday. Sean Hughes! My crush grows ever larger. Ever time I see him on Never mind the Buzzcocks I wet my pants(again).Last time i was watching it with my Dad and Dad kept making very lewd comments about Marianne Faithfull who was on at the time. Its really disturbing to hear your Dad going on about Mars Bars and where to shove them. Anyway Sean used to always be hanging at the bar at the Garage getting pissed. Is he still? I've spoken to him once or twice but just sort of 'alright Sean?' and thats as far as it goes. He lives in North London too, but where Kids? where? Rumour has it he was/is going out with 'What is this remerkable antiperspirant?' girl. Is this all old hat? Its hard to keep up. Oh, yes. Blokes in hairbands. Gorgeous. First there was the Karate kid when you were twelve, theres been footballers in hairbands like Cannigio and Berger, and that one of Ready Steady Cook! Everyone please start wearing hairbands. Pornography! New programme on Channel 4, very interesting in a purely historical kind of way. My friend Becca has a whole set of coasters with all the Pompeii pictures on and I'm quite jealous. If anyone sees them for sale then will you get them for us and I'll pay you back. Susannah xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Fri Oct 15 20:07:11 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 20:07:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I saw a dog on wheels today :) Message-ID: <002601bf1740$7ebb1980$77023c3e@default> Just when you think that for the first time in your life you've found a group of people that you can relate to and become friends with, you realise that you can't fucking well do *anything* about it because you're a fucking tink with no money and can't even fucking well afford the fucking bus fare to the place where they're all having a night out. And you're embarassed because every time one of them invites you (about nine, so far) you have to turn around and bastarding well explain for the umpteenth time that you can't fucking afford to have a life because you can't find a fucking job and your family can't/won't help you out in the slightest way and then you realise that the whole of your fucking life has been like this. LIFE IS SHIT! I wish I was fucking dead, but I don't even have the fucking guts! Ach, fuck this. -- Jason Andreas -- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Fri Oct 15 20:07:26 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 20:07:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I saw a dog on wheels today :) Message-ID: <002701bf1740$87d51de0$77023c3e@default> Just when you think that for the first time in your life you've found a group of people that you can relate to and become friends with, you realise that you can't fucking well do *anything* about it because you're a fucking tink with no money and can't even fucking well afford the fucking bus fare to the place where they're all having a night out. And you're embarassed because every time one of them invites you (about nine, so far) you have to turn around and bastarding well explain for the umpteenth time that you can't fucking afford to have a life because you can't find a fucking job and your family can't/won't help you out in the slightest way and then you realise that the whole of your fucking life has been like this. LIFE IS SHIT! I wish I was fucking dead, but I don't even have the fucking guts! Ach, fuck this. - ME +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Fri Oct 15 20:07:42 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 20:07:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I saw a dog on wheels today :) Message-ID: <002f01bf1740$8f54ac20$77023c3e@default> Just when you think that for the first time in your life you've found a group of people that you can relate to and become friends with, you realise that you can't fucking well do *anything* about it because you're a fucking tink with no money and can't even fucking well afford the fucking bus fare to the place where they're all having a night out. And you're embarassed because every time one of them invites you (about nine, so far) you have to turn around and bastarding well explain for the umpteenth time that you can't fucking afford to have a life because you can't find a fucking job and your family can't/won't help you out in the slightest way and then you realise that the whole of your fucking life has been like this. LIFE IS SHIT! I wish I was fucking dead, but I don't even have the fucking guts! Ach, fuck this. - ME +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Fri Oct 15 20:09:34 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 20:09:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: A big outlook express 5 mess up Message-ID: <004b01bf1740$d4036000$77023c3e@default> Sorry, but the last 'mail' from me to the list seems to have sent to you all the last message that I recieved in my inbox, something someone was telling me about money problems, I hope that it didn't offend anyone. Sorry :( -- Jason Andreas -- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dhooper at xxx.com Fri Oct 15 22:54:42 1999 From: dhooper at xxx.com (Dan Hooper) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:54:42 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Please excuse my big feet Message-ID: Howdy all you sinister kids, Seem I inadvertently trod upon zoe's toes in my last post, and for this I sincerely apologize. My intention was not to hurt anyone's feeling or cast aspersions upon anyone's home, but merely to suggest some fun in the sun. I am sorry if my humor missed it's mark. I meant no disrespect or to make a new member feel bad. I would also like to thank all those of you for your messages of condolence for my recent heartache, even those who upbraided me for my foolishness (thanks and smiles Brandt). I'm still tumbling down the road towards hopeless romanticism, I'm still searching for my soulmate (which I obviously still believe in), and I still don't love anyone in particular (except maybe my sister, though I do love all of you for your indulgence and kindness). Anyway, I'm back to my old happy, cashmere-socks wearing self, wishing I were downing boddington's with b & s loving people in a dark warm pub and falling in love with a sweet pickish girl with a soft warm accent. Oh well, I'll live vicariously through the sinister postings. I remember, not so long ago, there were some rather forward party behaviours reported here. How come none of the parties I go to devolve to such decadent levels? (well they do, but not before we have to take the girls home). Regarding what we call sex: I've always found "making love" a bit too precious (unless it is said in a Barry White kinda voice), but otherwise I have to agree with danielle. "Shagging," like so many britishisms, really captures all fun and dumbness and there is to say about it, but to use it on this side of the pond makes you sound like your sending up Austin Powers. "Fuck" and "screw" sound too rude to use with someone you really like, and the ever popular "do it," and "hide the salami" can be confusing after a few beers. So I like "boink" or "bonk." They sound fun, silly, and lighthearted like "shag," but with out the crushed velvet aftertaste. But the best are the secret codes we establish with our regular lovers, like "and what prodigious mowing shall we make?" Alasdair's explanation of the baseball analogy we yanks use to describe our sexual exploits is much tamer than what I learned in the backseat of my father's oldsmobile, but certainly more fitting with the experiences in my cafe. For a graphic depiction of the more traditional take on this analogy listen to "Paradise By The Dashboard Light" from Meatloaf's first Bat Out of Hell Album (I wouldn't necessarily buy it, but with the number of units that album continues to sell, you might be surprized at who you might borrow it from). A homerun is pretty obvious, but the bases are harder to pin down. They seem to vary depending on geographic location, education, and socio-economic background of the participants. I've even heard it differ between the participants (The boy: "I didn't go any further than first base, after all it was only our third date" The girl: "He was so close to home it wasn't even funny. I guess he doesn't like me."). And just for the record, I love the gentle wind LP and still think Isobel is babe. I too make passes at girls who were glasses. With that I bid you good weekend and All the best Daniel Hooper +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vlass at xxx.com Fri Oct 15 23:23:51 1999 From: vlass at xxx.com (vlass at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:23:51 -0400 Subject: Sinister: they'll take your money and never give up Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19991015222351.00aaf04c@mail.interlog.com> hello.. martin brought up this subject: >The Kids from Degrassi Street and my ears perked.. because all the degrassi shows were filmed right here in toronto, i'm always surprised by the fact that the whole world knows about the antics of joey, wheels, spike and ick. i SEE various members of the show around the city sometimes! really! i bumped into one of the twins (you know, long brown curly hair. everyone knows the classic operation when one of them gets an abortion) in the bathroom at school once, and then i saw her walking down the street another time. *gasp* i even sat behind liz (the one with the bangs and shaved head - joey jeremiah thought she would have sex with him, and casually dropped condoms on her coffee table, heee) during a screening of the movie "the red violin". and, on top of all of that, i KNOW someone who actually *lived* on degrassi street this past summer. the show has stopped running, but the legacy lives on... teri +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sloyd at xxx.au Fri Oct 15 11:28:26 1999 From: sloyd at xxx.au (spencer lloyd) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:28:26 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Heaven sent an angel Message-ID: <4.1.19991015175830.009402a0@mail.omen.net.au> It's a Friday nite and you are feeling sorta frisky, so you decide to head down to your friendly neighbourhood beat near the lake, in the hope of finding some cute boi to scratch your itch. You slink around the area trying to avoid the gazes of the sinister middle age men who give casual sex a bad name, when you eye catches a luscious young thing sitting forlornly on a damp bench. He has the look of a Bernard Sumner circa The Perfect Kiss, and that is enough to drag your nervous feet over his way. After making awkward small talk you get down to business. So you are down on your knees and you are listening to the noises around you; the crickets beside the lake, the cars zooming past on the nearby highway, and the obvious slurping sounds of love. But another noise makes it's way into the cold nite air; someone is singing under their breathe, it's Mr Sumner above you. You wonder if you should be offended, and begin to have doubts about your technique. But curiosity gets the better of you and you focus your ears to work what he is singing "I try to reach the halo, but desire just not strong enough". You know that song. "Revolver" you say. He looks down at you in bemusement obviously thinking that you are making some strange phallic reference. "No the song you were singing, it was by Revolver right?". "Oh yeah" he mutters. "I was listening to the album before I left tonite." "I had to steal the CD of my brother because i could no longer find it in the shops" you say. He smiles slightly, and there is an awkward pause before you return to the task at hand. He makes not a sound for the rest of the encounter, except to say 'thankyou', he even mutes his primal orgasmic screams. And so you are walking home feeling particularly dirty, and decidedly unsatisfied, and you think to yourself 'oh well at least he had decent taste in music." blessed be spencer lloyd ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ stillness is a lie, my dear +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From scott.rowland at xxx.net Fri Oct 15 23:39:10 1999 From: scott.rowland at xxx.net (Scott Rowland) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 23:39:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: where wine, dance and music is the name of the game..... Message-ID: <003301bf175f$be547040$2d25fad4@Scott.Rowland> evenin' all if you want to feel better then compare your life against mine........ it's friday night and i went to the pub after work but instead of staying out and getting boozed up i am now at home watching transformers:the movie.......... oh and if anyones going to salako at the borderline next friday and fancies a couple of pints before get in touch anyway must go optimus prime and megatron are about to have their final battle. luv hugs n stuff scottie xxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gedole at xxx.com Sat Oct 16 00:19:21 1999 From: gedole at xxx.com (Gregory Dole) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:19:21 PDT Subject: Sinister: introduction and sex talk Message-ID: <19991015231921.38322.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi, I'd like to introduce myself after a month or two of lurking. My name is Greg Dole, I am from Ottawa, Canada, I am currently working in the U.S. of A., and I like a certain band from Scotland. I would like to weigh in on the sex euphemism (spelling?) discussion. To my amusement, my american colleagues use the expression "getting the job done." This working class approach to sex gets me laughing every time someone talks about a sexual escapade. Here's me: Hey Mike, what did you do last night? Mike: Well, me and Suzie had a bottle of wine and then we spent the night getting the job done. That's humour if you ask me. Note that I use the term getting the job done without reference to myself. Why? I'm honest. Other favourites include horizontal jogging and the horizontal mambo. However, both are a bit too wordy, so I generally stick with getting the job done. I find great humour in the term getting the job done, and as I often hear it misused in everyday conversation, the humour value is times ten. Basically I like getting the job done, shabloinking and horizontal jogging, I don't mind shagging, but you won't find me talking about fuck*ng or making love. Of course, that's just my opinion, and I'm easily amused. And I'll end here because this is a hell of a long email about nothing. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Sat Oct 16 01:09:51 1999 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: my little mouth, my winter lungs Message-ID: <19991016000951.29411.rocketmail@web120.yahoomail.com> --- spencer lloyd wrote: [a lot of dirty things] dear lord! did this really happen??? anyway, hey-ho, darlings! 'tis ree. i have just finished putting on a coat of glittery nail polish, getting ready to go out salsa dancing in a few hours! is there anything sexier than salsa? those hips! now i've got to find something as tight and glamourous as i can get away with. (oh! i am listening to miss KIMberly's radio show right now, and she has just put on hefner's hymn for the cigarettes -- damnit! i've fallen for hefner!) so, red lips, sparkly nails, tight black dress, ridiculously high platform shoes, a shot (or two or three) of absolut au kurant and i am Set to salsa! what is all this talk of boys liking girls in glasses? why don't you all live near Me?? well, you can't tell by the pic i sent honey (shameless plug for crush votes -- dear! i never thought i'd be saying that!), but i Do wear glasses, and damnit, why aren't there boys here who thing that's sexy? or at least nice-looking. hmph! (ree flounces away.) (ree comes back.) i have recently discovered for myself the innocence mission's "birds of my neighborhood." it is Exquisite. truly beautiful, like a snowflake or a silver bell. really. (oh, kimmy has just put on the promise ring record.) the baseball-as-sex analogy was knock-me-on-my-ass funny. for reals. and as for third base... don't we all know it's just "like warm apple pie"?? heh heh... can i just give massive props to everyone on this list? i love you all, and i love all yr stories, and today i love Everyone. especially christmas. take care, y'all. xoxo, ree-dawg in full effect. ===== ************************************************************************************************* "I was a proper snob in college, as only a future lifetime English major can be" - buddy glass "to me she was just marie." -mersault ************************************************************************************************* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Fri Oct 15 13:07:52 1999 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:07:52 -0400 Subject: Sinister: the zit remedy sensation is sweeping the.... References: <1.5.4.32.19991015222351.00aaf04c@mail.interlog.com> Message-ID: <38071918.A31BF1C8@utoronto.ca> vlass at interlog.com wrote: > > hello.. > > martin brought up this subject: > >The Kids from Degrassi Street > and my ears perked.. as did mine! hooray for the mighty CBC's most enduring export (with the possible exception of glenn gould and the kids in the hall)! like all torontonians of 'a certain age' i have much degrassi lore to spread about thickly. most notably i keep running into the token black girl on the show, but i forget her real name. also, there was a fellow who ran for school president back when i was in grade 10 who's platform included addressing our rotund principal exclusively as 'big poppa' and erecting a statue of joey, wheels and snake on the front lawn of mighty northern secondary. the memories are just too much....does anyone remember claude? what a poor guy. i don't remember for sure but i bet he listened to alot of cure records on the show. also, my old band King Carp used to play a reggae version of the ZitRemedy's 'everybody's got something...' song, and a friend's punk band used to play the degrassi themesong too. > the show has stopped running, but the legacy lives on... s'true. when my friend marc and i were in france (in nice to be precise) the two things we would watch on TV were the 8am french rap music videos (i'm more partial to Akhenaton and IAM than i am to MC Solar) and the poorly dubbed version of Degrassi that aired around 4pm. something about being in the exotic land of the prisunic and pastis made seeing a dowdy canadian 'no frills' supermarket on tv bizzarely reassuring. i wrote a teary letter home about the very same thing. oh, and does anyone remember when they went to the strip club? i think it was the one on queen east near that mr. tasty restaurant or something....another boffo degrassi moment. steven kado +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Catspaw1 at xxx.com Sat Oct 16 03:49:42 1999 From: Catspaw1 at xxx.com (Catspaw1 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 22:49:42 EDT Subject: Sinister: Nice noise Message-ID: <0.cf69cb34.253941c6@aol.com> someone mentioned other bands we liked. I suggest that the curious check out Stephen Duffy's The Lilac Time and the new CD Looking for a Day in the Night... The recommendation I followed made comparisons to both B&S and Nick Drake... I can see that, I suppose... I also like the following description: "the prettiest bitter pill you're likely to swallow for some time..." B Clay +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Patrick.Scragg at xxx.com Sat Oct 16 04:20:00 1999 From: Patrick.Scragg at xxx.com (Patrick Scragg) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 23:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: High Fidelity/Stuart Murdoch Message-ID: <19991016032639.UXDQ607@localHost> I've been away from the Sinister list for a quite a while (about 3 weeks). Good lord - What a HUGE back log of posts to read! I was away visiting some with some friends who informed me of some fantastic news (that is, if it's true) - Nick Horby's excellent first novel, 'High Fidelity,' is being made into a movie - even better, the soundtrack is to include contributions from Belle and Sebastian! Too good to be true? You tell me! As I've said, I've been out of the Sinister loop for a while, so allow me to apologize in advance if this information is way old! Those of you fortunate enough to have had the opportunity to see B&S live, your opinion is needed here as well. A B&S fan who saw the band in Athens, GA a year ago said that she was quite surprised to see the band in the flesh; she described Isobel and Sarah as very short and hefty (though sweet) - not at all like the waifish model-types she had envisioned; Stuart D. was tall and lurpy, somewhat handsome, while Mick, Stevie and the other guys were pretty vanilla-looking. She was most captivated by Stuart M - who was a complete contradiction to the notion of being "twee" - she described as him as tall and surprisingly "buff" - like he could kick some serious idie-ass if provoked - and not too handsome. W H A T? At the time she told me this (by the way, she's a fashion major or something) all I could picture of the band was pro-basketball player Gheorghe Muresan on guitar, Carnie Wilson and Mama Cass singing/playing at the sides, and out in front of the band - Rambo or Henry Rollins with a acoustic guitar... "Yo - we're Belle and uhhhh." I was fascinated by her take on the band's appearance, and have since disproved (for the most part) her bizarre version (thanks to the few B&S pictures on the web and in the music press)! Those of you who have seen B&S - is their some validity to her story? Just curious! Please share your first impressions! Have a great weekend! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daftpunk at xxx.au Sat Oct 16 07:37:56 1999 From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 14:37:56 +0800 (WST) Subject: Sinister: Earshot!:) Message-ID: Hey dear friends, long time no write!:) Just saw "Earshot", that mythically almost-banned episode of the BEST programme on telly that is "Buffy" (I live in Australia btw) and am simply stunned at the awesomeness of it. "Earshot" of course was banned because it deals with the Buffster developing telepathic powers and 'overhearing' that someone is planning to massacre everyone in the school. Unfortunately she starts going mad due to her powers and it's up to the scooby gang to solve the mystery. I guess I can understand why this episode was postponed. Its similarities to the Columbine thing are eerily prescient (it was filmed BEFORE that whole tragedy) with characters saying lines like, "Who hasn't idly thought of taking out the whole school with a semi-automatic?" But "Buffy" deals with such a controversial topic in such an intelligent and moving,and most of all responsible way, it truly transcends any controversy associated with such a topic. The geek who has been ignored the whole time, who at first looks like he's trying to take out the whole school, is only trying to kill himself. The real murderer is the **** (don't wanna spoil it for people who haven't seen it, but it's a witty take on a common high school fear). Buffy's speech to Jonathan is so beautiful and so poignant and so PURE, it is a moment of dramatic intensity unmatched by most other tv shows (although common to "Buffy" of course). Absolutely amazing. When Buffy starts hearing all the voices, we are let into a wonderful slice of high schoolers' thoughts ranging from "i hate my body" to "she doesn't even notice me".Again, painfully poignant. No other series has so accurately depicted the loneliness and confusion of high school. It lets us relive those painful years through these characters. I also love how Buffy first of all uses her power for humourous gain, but then it descends into a nightmarish realm where she can't stop hearing the din of voices.Another aspect of the greatness of "Buffy" is how it can mix such powerful intense drama with effortless wit and humour. That and of course flawless acting from the ensemble especially Sarah Michelle Gellar, who if ignored for an Emmy nomination AGAIN next year, just confirms how stupid and blind the Emmy voting committee is. For me watching "Earshot" was a lot like hearing "Tigermilk" for the first time. I'd been anticipating both for a very long time and when I finally experienced them, my high expectations were exceeded. WHEW! got that off my chest. Anyone who has seen this classic episode, feel free to comment, would love to hear some views. Till next time, luvvies Kin Woo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From biberonette at xxx.com Sat Oct 16 08:42:02 1999 From: biberonette at xxx.com (adele h) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 07:42:02 GMT Subject: Sinister: more introductions and all that nonsense Message-ID: <19991016074203.52745.qmail@hotmail.com> heya everyone, yay! i'm finally let out of my crib in the nursery, so please be gentle with me -- i promise not to nick anyone's toys or be narky etc. etc. anyhow, this means that it's time for a wee introduction -- my name's melissa and i'm in paris doing my studies in cinematography. but see, i'm getting a tad too lonely for my own good because i don't actually know many people here, well, not many with similar interests, so if you're in the vicinity, could you give us a holler, pretty please? it's getting boring drinking tea alone, and the increasingly nippy weather isn't helping at all. (so, to zoe from greece: i can empathise...) i'm turning twenty-three in a month, should i be stoked about that? sorry for sounding a little whingey, but i'm still trying to get over the fact that england's drawn against scotland for the play-offs -- here's my quandary: technically, i ought to be rooting for the three lions, but in all honesty, the team's rather shitey, innit? we had to bloody rely on the good grace of the swedes. and i've been secretly wishing for the scottish team to win so as to teach england a lesson, but if my mates get to hear of this, i'll never be forgiven. toughie. oops. am i ranting a tad too much about footie? i don't have any b&s-related swear words at the moment, but it wouldn't take too long to come up with a list, but i promise not to rattle them off in public... anyhow, enough of my yammering, i suppose. cheers, -melissa- p.s. and to brandt: hope your mum's feeling better, and you're not being self-centred to talk about your problems -- it releases pent-up emotions, so by all means, talk your frustrations and confusion out, okay? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From markniciu at xxx.com Sat Oct 16 08:57:26 1999 From: markniciu at xxx.com (Mark Niciu) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:57:26 PDT Subject: Sinister: Attention: Felt heads Message-ID: <19991016075727.89835.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey blokes and birds, A friend of mine introduced me to the splendor and the mystery of Felt earlier this year, and I am as attracted to and enamored by Lawrence and company as I am by Murdoch and crew. Does anyone out in Belle and Sebastian land own any live recordings of Felt? Lawrence's admiration of Television and Tom Verlaine is well known, and, given Richard Lloyd's tendency to "jam" in concert, I assume Maurice Deebank often did the same. Anyway, songs like "Birdmen" and "The Stagnant Pool" have long guitar solos built-in. It would be an absolute delight if anyone had such recordings to share because Deebank's virtuosity on the guitar is unmatched (among 1980s guitarists, only Johnny Marr and Will Sergeant of Echo and the Bunnymen are in the same league as Mo). Felt and Denim web page: http://jeigh.com/felt/index1.html Mark ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Sat Oct 16 09:14:38 1999 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 04:14:38 -0400 Subject: Sinister: thanks for the advice, tho i didn't use any of it Message-ID: well, it's 4am and i've returned home from 6 hours at the wonderful seth's house. to the person who gave me advice on how to ask him if he was seeing anybody, i didn't use it because i didn't need to. a friend informed me earlier today that he is indeed very single. anyway, let's start with some B&S content: "i don't love anyone" is a great song and all, but i think it may be back to "my wandering days are over," for me. so tonight i went to seth's house to see if i could get my groove on. okay, not exactly. but i did have the intention of letting my feelings be known, or doing something about them, or both. so i show up at 10pm, figuring it's late enough for me to say i was bored and ask if they minded if i joined them in front of the television, as i have none. serendiptously there's a seat next to seth. so i take it. for the first, say, hour i'm there he's acting a little cold. in fact, it kind of felt like i was next to a large block of ice. i think he thought i'd blown him off since i hadn't gone to visit at all this past week (d'oh). anyway, after a little flirting he warmed up some more, and we spent a good 5 hours on the sofa enmeshed in one another, and kissed a little for the last hour. not much, as an ex boyfriend of mine was in the room, and that's just a little awkward. he wasn't facing us or anything, but still. oh, and there's a webcam in the living room. so it's a little strange to know that not only were my 5 hours of cuddling with this boy broadcast all over the planet, but that people i know may have been watching. especially since my housemates said they would check me out while i was over there. but i think it's kind of neat that my first kisses with this boy were sent out all over the globe. an evil mean part of me hopes his ex girlfriend decided to take a look at the webcam tonight. but that's not a very strong part. mostly i'm just happy. i was sad to go, but i have to be up at 9am (i wasn't planning on staying later than 1am, honest) to make a champagne breakfast for a housemate who's having her birthday tomorrow, then it's off to a seminar for prospective students to talk about my thesis. and here i am writing emails to strangers. and if teri's reading this, i'll tell you all about it tomorrow, i swear. although i may be asleep when you call. i plan on napping heavily when i get back from the seminar. i was going to go to new hampshire to buy cigarettes, but that'll have to wait until sunday, i guess. thank you for listening, and listening to my progression from jon, to losing jon, to getting over jon, to falling for seth. i'm happy. -kerry "two pathways diverged in a cell and i i took the cataboic path less travelled by and that has made all the ATP" -amy norton +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From markniciu at xxx.com Sat Oct 16 09:12:53 1999 From: markniciu at xxx.com (Mark Niciu) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 01:12:53 PDT Subject: Sinister: Anyone for "best of" lists? Message-ID: <19991016081253.11085.qmail@hotmail.com> It's me again. Insomnia is ravaging at this wee hour of the morning. As there appears to be no new Belle and Sebastian news to report and the end of the decade is rapidly approaching (the first that I've lived through cognizant of music minus any Disney tracks), is anyone up for "best of" lists, e.g. "Top 25 Albums of the Decade", "Top 50 Songs of the Decade", "Top 10 Guitarists", "Songwriters", etc.? If anyone is interested in rating the best (or worst), I'm game as this should provide plenty of grist for our sinister mill until the release of Belle and Sebastian's new LP. Give me a few days to think and I'll start off the fun with a "Top 25 Albums of the Decade" list. Mark ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sat Oct 16 09:43:33 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 09:43:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm joining the ranks of writers :) Message-ID: <00bf01bf17b2$88c6a300$0f023c3e@default> Hi folks, A contract popped through my door this morning regarding the inclusion of one of my short stories in an anthology project. It might not mean riches and fame, but at least, for the first time in my life, it's made me feel that maybe I *can* be a writer after all! I'm deleriously happy!!!! I want to run along a beach in the moonlight, thanking everyone who's ever helped me get this far!!!!! WHEEEEE! -- Jason Andreas -- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Sat Oct 16 13:43:59 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 13:43:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Anyone for "best of" lists? In-Reply-To: <19991016081253.11085.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Mark said: > is anyone up for "best of" lists, e.g. "Top 25 Albums of the Decade", > "Top 50 Songs of the Decade", > "Top 10 Guitarists", "Songwriters", etc.? Erm... We've had "lists of lists" episodes on Sinister before (and in fact "lists of lists of lists") and it's not been good for the coherence and readability of Sinister: see, it's very easy to wham out a list of "things I like" with little thought and send it off, so potentially we might have 1000 of them in each of our mailboxes by tomorrow morning. And 1000x1000=a lot of mails. I've seen this decimate other lists in the past and lead to a very low signal-to-noise ratio, and everyone suddenly starts hitting "delete" and doesn't ever stop. So we all start mailing stuff blind and not hearing what each other say. Then the sun explodes and life on earth ceases to be. My take on this is as follows: you can't do much with a simple list of "Top 50 Songs" from someone, and if any debate at all ensues it's usually of the "you're kidding, it's complete shit" family, which is fun for 10 minutes but tires a bit by next August. So here's the age-old rule: if you're going to send in a list to Sinister, take the time to pepper it with *reasons why*, which do encourage debate, and add a bit of yourself into it. But please we don't want 500 mails which say: Hi losers, your lists all suck, here's mine: 1. Abba: The Best Of 2. Roger Whittaker: The Best Of 3. Motorhead: The Gentle Side Of 4. Boney M: The Very Best Of The Best Of 5. Chris Leonard: Fruits Of The Forest And Bay City Rollers kick ass too. Bye, Miss H xx No disrespect to Mark by the way: Mark, the other way of doing this, because lists are made for browsing, is for you to offer to receive all these lists from people, compile them into a single list, and put up on the WWW, rather like Lovely Laura LLew's Lovely Literary Lovely List - I'd be happy to put a link on the Sinister page to it as long as it was an ongoing thing. It could be Mark's Marvellous Measuring Machine or something. Honey x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mark.salt at xxx.net Sat Oct 16 22:52:56 1999 From: mark.salt at xxx.net (Mark Salt) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 22:52:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Cher stole my fun Message-ID: <000c01bf1820$e76f14a0$1038a8c2@990122S> Dear List, This is my very first post, please be gentle with me. FIRST and foremost my name is not Mark Salt, as the address would suggest, it's Hannah. I was watching your games from a safe distance and wanting to join in but not feeling brave enough. Then Erica put my picture up and I feel i really should emerge from the undergrowth and bore you all to death with a post. I've been skulking and lurking for far too long and it seems a little rude not to introduce myself. FOR the obligatory "when i discovered belle and sebastian" story, mine doesn't quite match up to the excitement of other people's. It was all down to wonderful Erica's devoted tape making and covers which just made me listen to them. I wanted to rhapsodise brilliantly over the beauty of b&s, but I'm really not very good at that sort of thing. The best i can manage is a mutter of "umm.... i just think they're really good". But the brilliance crept up on me until i was listening to the tapes every day and i had to buy CDs to replace them. THIS IS TERRIBLE ON a completely unrelated and quite sad subject..........Cher really did steal my fun you know. I was going to go to Hefner on Monday, and all i had to do was swap my babysitting times with the girl who does Tuesdays, simple you may think. And i got my hopes up, and phoned Erica up and got her hopes up as well. Then i phoned the girl. She said "oh I'm really sorry but i can't, you see I'm going to see CHER in concert on Monday". Its not fair. This kind of thing shouldn't be allowed, so I'm offering a reward to anyone who can stop Cher "performing" on Monday. I don't mind how you achieve this, steal her crushed leather shell suit perhaps, although obviously the more creative the better. As for the reward........ it is yet to be decided although a kiss from Erica is in the running, so get plotting. love Hannah xx pS. the only doll i ever resemble is a cabbage patch doll, don't be fooled. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk Sat Oct 16 23:04:06 1999 From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (sweetie) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 23:04:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: and the lights went out... Message-ID: <010a01bf1823$0cbe8e00$673c883e@anne666theasylum> hello my friends and how r we all?? good i hope i am simply super. :) well yesterday i was away to alton towers with my school. it was great, oblivian is really kule. :) the 8hr drive could have been worse, at leat i had my music. :) but after the first stop something happened. we all got back on the bus and the inital high had gone and everyone was in need of some sleep. (bar me i was awake for a full 37.5hrs). heres what happened i got back to my seat and switched on my sisters personal cd player. and immediatly my ears r in heaven with 'get me away from here im dying' and almost symbolically at the end of the song, everyone turned out their lights. then earlier on tonite, i was sitting eating some bacon on toast. and once i had finished i looked down at my plate and there was a little drip of grease in the centre of my plate and some toast crumbs had fallen in it, and they shape they formed was a perfect ' :) ' that made me smile. but not as much as this after being awake for over 37hrs i slept for only 13, not very long considering. anyway when i finally got out of bed at 2pm i came downstairs to some post, an a4 sized jiffy bag. and in it was the ltd divine comedy secret history i had ordered, but as the second cd wasnt ready to send, as an apology, the book was signed by neil hannon. that made me smile alot. :) your friend always me, myself and everybody else x icq# 42242252 ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Life isn't a rehearsal, it's for real. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Sat Oct 16 20:34:40 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Graham MacArthur) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 20:34:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Papa t'es plus dans l'coup Message-ID: Listerines, Some NEWS for London hefner fans (unless you're the jumping up and down jeering beer-boy types - yes, I mean *you*! that was ME scowling at you from the mosh on Wednesday at dingwalls, you swines)....Monday. Borders bookshop (Oxford street) 6.30 pm. Myself and miss Hannah, hand in hand. You could ask for nothing more. And talking of the most glamourous couple this side of Sunderland, there is a picture of the prettydoll herself, miss Hannah, *myself* IN FOCUS (for my critic's delight), and our partner in crime, ms Honeydoll on the 'trying to pull' pics page. They were taken on my birthday, which is why my eyeliner is a bit smuged. Tequila and kohl isn't the best combination. I bought a record today called 'Teenage party' which is all sung in french. There is a code to which kind of dancing you should do with each song - for "Quand Un air Vous Possede" you should do the Mashed Potatoe. For "T'as qu'seize ans" you should do the twist. I'd like it if someone would tell me how to dance to each song at the next tigermilking - I can just see Mark MC-ing: "NOW! shuffle nervously with your hands behind your back!" Right, now if you'll excuse me I have to go and pretend I have something better to do. Erica x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Sun Oct 17 01:31:17 1999 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (Johan Nilsson) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 02:31:17 +0200 Subject: Sinister: ban hate and violence for our convenience References: <000401bf1826$7559b360$a927883e@win98> Message-ID: <19991017001858.77039.qmail@hotmail.com> four musical acts in my head: STEREOLAB (them savages should be banned!) I am really disapointed that Stereolab's tour doesn't reach us kids up in Scandinavia! Oh it happens all the time though. We just learn to cope with it. Is there anyone out there that could help me get an ex of the seven inch "Fried Monkey Eggs" that they are selling on the tour? Oh oh, in case you don't know, Cobra and Phases Japanese version comes with a super cute extra Cd single! Love it, it is the cutest thing since, well I don't know what. DOT ALLISON (i want to feel the chill?) I bought 'Afterglow' the other day. I don't know how it came. I guess I just had to. No actually, I was in a record store in Stockholm (Pet Sounds) and they were playing it and I recalled all the good melodies from the gig she did with the Strap in London. It is quite, 'listener friendly' if that is a phrase worth using, and I like it a lot, at least right now. BELLE & SEBASTIAN (music for children) Why is the new album taking so long?!?! Ahem, yes that was my message. No, wait. Someone wished they'd re-record 'Rhoda' because it is such a lovely song. I totally agree! Please re-record it Stuart! We should start a foundation and with it our goal would be to get it released... HEFNER (summertime, summertime, summertime) What did the girl write on Darrens coat? Summertime by the way was a Fresh Prince song, not a Hefner one... But Darren seemingly like to sing the word summertime a lot, even though when i would say it doesn't fit with the lyrics. bit of you foot now, chump! Johan. 'eating too much liqourice since 1979' www.hayfever.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Sun Oct 17 01:37:49 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 20:37:49 -0400 (EWT) Subject: Sinister: A Kinder World Message-ID: I would like to express my appreciation for the many sinister members who took time to e-mail me about my mom's illness. She had the surgery today and she will hopefully be much better soon. Unfortunately, she has to have an even more unpleasant surgery later this week. Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks to all of you for your kindness. This really is the greatest list in the world. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sloyd at xxx.au Sat Oct 16 13:51:08 1999 From: sloyd at xxx.au (spencer lloyd) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 20:51:08 +0800 Subject: Sinister: I'm 15 all over again Message-ID: <4.1.19991016200801.00931ae0@mail.omen.net.au> marie elia asked: >dear lord! did this really happen??? Yes it did. Very rarely does anything of interest happen in my life so i think that it is essential that I share it with the world when something does. Now adding to the Degrassi thread, with a question to all the Canadian listees: was there ever a soundtrack to the show, or to the Degrassi movie "School's Out"? I seem to remember one song being use during the movie called 'House of Glass' which particularly touched me. It was played during the scene where Caitlin is breaking up with Joey, and when those too tarty gurls are drowning and being rescued by Snake. Ooh I can almost hear that haunting melody right now, how did it go? "Come touch me, in a house of glass, I'm falling." or something like that! And on a related note i seem to recall a band right here in Perth using that whole Caitlin/Joey breakup scene on one of their songs.It starts with sweet innocent Caitlin saying the immortal words "Tessa Campanelli, you fucked Tessa Campanelli." And then has Caitlin crying and Joey squirming and saying "I'm sorry. I'm sorry" at the end. Oh boy I'm almost crying just thinking about that scene! And speaking of TV shows my fellow Australian Kin Woo espoused the virtues of Buffy. I just wanted to say thankyou for confirming that I am not a hopeless teeny-bopper wannabe by simply adoring this show and waiting impatiently for every Tuesday night to come around. blessed be all spencer lloyd ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ stillness is a lie, my dear +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grey7 at xxx.net Sun Oct 17 04:36:02 1999 From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 23:36:02 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Harry Potter is the antichrist Message-ID: <00f001bf1850$bcfe5ca0$5e381fce@default> Okay, I really do have some B&S content, but first: People want to ban Harry Potter I caught the NBC national news yesterday and it seems there is a movement (small, but still...) to ban Harry Potter books in schools and such. For those not already members of the Dark Brotherhood of Lucifer (joke kittlings) allow me to explain. Harry Potter books are novels written by a rather charming seeming scottish women by the name of JK Rowling. Anywho, Harry is a young boy going to a school of wizards and goes on many fanciful adventures and so on. The reason for this is...are you ready for it?...these people say Harry promotes witchcraft, drug use, satanism, and so on. All three Harry Potter books are on the bestseller list in top spots. Teachers say kids who have never shown an intrest in reading are picking up Harry Potter books and loving them. Which reminds me that as late as the 1980's the banned-books list still existed in the US, this was a list of books that served as a guide for what was appropriate reading material and including such things as Wizard of OZ, NArnia, Lord of the Rings, Tom Sawyer, Catcher in the Rye (which me Dad proudly proclaims got him in trouble and almost caused him to be expelled for reading it in his sixth grade class), James and the Giant Peach, etc. Sorry, just had to share that, just had to vent a little at the stupidity and small mindedness of people. Let's move on... Belle & Sebastian I have already sung the praise of my college radio station and now I must again. While driving yesterday I was joyed to hear TBWTAS start playing only to become dismayed when it faded out to be replaced by a news program. Then I realized the radio station was using TBWTAS as intro and background music for their news program. Which seems an odd choice for the news and opinion segment but I'm not complaining... Someone at that school must really like B&S, which is fine by me. Jason Andreas wrote: >It might not mean riches >and fame, but at least, for the first time in my life, it's made me feel >that maybe I *can* be a writer after all! Christ man!! Congrats are in order!!! I've just started sending stuff off and am awaiting my rejection letters with glee...but to get published at all? Damn fine job sir! It must be a brilliant feeling. Cher must die The funniest thing about Cher...I'm in the mall last week in Sam Gooody looking around when I overhear a trio of A&F girls of about fourteen talking; "You know, Cher's cool and all...but she's like fourty! Isn't that a little old to be starting your musical career?" I about hit the floor laughing as a clerk who had heard what was said tried explaining that she'd been in music for about three or four decades. Poor Hannah, don't worry, I'm sure Cher has been the bane of many a good spirit. I always feel as I've written too much, never sure how much to impart in these non-sensical little ramblings to my sinister brothers and sisters, always feeling my I've rambled on too much. So I'll bid your leave now. Have a sinister night- Jim "And I'm up when the dawn is breaking , even though my heart is aching. I should be drinking a toast to absent friends, instead of these comedians"- Elvis Costello +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daftpunk at xxx.au Sun Oct 17 07:18:56 1999 From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:18:56 +0800 (WST) Subject: Sinister: I'm up for "Best of" lists, plus GARBAGE and MARY JO (B&S content) In-Reply-To: <19991016081253.11085.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Sounds like a GREAT IDEA. I for one am always up for it. Others can start first but rest assured my "albums of the decade" will include B&S, Belly and lots more!:) On Sat, 16 Oct 1999, Mark Niciu wrote: > It's me again. Insomnia is ravaging at this wee hour of the morning. As > there appears to be no new Belle and Sebastian news to report and the end of > the decade is rapidly approaching (the first that I've lived through > cognizant of music minus any Disney tracks), is anyone up for "best of" > lists, e.g. "Top 25 Albums of the Decade", "Top 50 Songs of the Decade", > "Top 10 Guitarists", "Songwriters", etc.? If anyone is interested in rating > the best (or worst), I'm game as this should provide plenty of grist for our > sinister mill until the release of Belle and Sebastian's new LP. Give me a > few days to think and I'll start off the fun with a "Top 25 Albums of the > Decade" list. Also does anyone know what the deal with the "Mary Jo" single is? I have an old Select (this year) which contains an advert for "Mary jo" by B&S but nowhere else is there a mention of this. HELP!!!:) As one could discern from my title, this email is to recount in loving and unneccessary detail about my going to see one of my fave bands, GARBAGE here in Perth, W.A.:) Went to see Garbage (wierdly supporting the queen of YUCK that is Alanis Morrissette) on Tuesday, which was terrific. $70 for an hour performance (couldn't bear to stay for Alanis) is of course extremely ridiculous, but it was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and pretty worth it I thought. Support band Stellar sounded a lot like a rock Sneakerpimps and were pretty non descript. But when Shirley came on, it was so absolutely AMAZING! She seemed slightly shorter than I'd imagined her to be but she just commandeered the whole place with her magnetic presence. She was funny, hypnotic and great to watch. They played all their classics though I could have done without "Hammering in my head" and "dumb" for "queer" and "not my idea" instead. The sound was a perfect pitch between their dark, sinister, menacing side with their rocking and poppy side. Loved how before "vow" they had a sample that said, "don't you know all bad girls go to hell". Shirls even incorporated Britney Spears "Hit Me Baby One More Time" into one of her songs! Brought a tape recorder but unfortunately batteries didn't work- CRAP!!!:( Would have been such a magnificent bootleg to have. Nearly on par with Radiohead for my fave gig ever I guess, but the fact that Radiohead was vastly cheaper and they played for longer tip it over in favour of the 'Head. Afterwards, went to the side door to see if we could get a siggie (signature) from the band. This is where the biggest letdown of the night occurred. There were only a small bunch of us, very orderly too awaiting the majesty of Garb's, but when they finally came out, only Shirley waved to the fans (others ignored us!) and there was this big burly guard that prevented us from going closer to them for an autograph. Swindled! I thought Shirls etc would be happy to sign just a handful of autographs since that's the impression I get from all their interviews. Instead, they just piled into a van and waved as they drove off- BOO!!! Was hoping to add to my collection of famous Scots autographs along with Ewan McGregor and Teenie Fanclub! Still had an awesome night and nothing can take away from my pleasure of my memory of that:) (wierd sentence but nevermind!) ok that's all folks:) Gotta run, hope to hear from some of you re: "Mary Jo" conundrum and of course to see some "best of" lists seeya Kin Woo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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From: "adele h" Subject: Sinister: more introductions and all that nonsense Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 07:42:02 GMT Size: 4999 URL: From markniciu at xxx.com Sat Oct 16 08:57:26 1999 From: markniciu at xxx.com (Mark Niciu) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: DELIVERY FAILURE: Router: Unable to open mailbox file GBTC-ETL-NM01/ETL/ERICSSON mail.box: Unable to find path to server Message-ID: <19991016075727.89835.qmail@hotmail.com> Your message Subject: Sinister: Attention: Felt heads was not delivered to: ETLRDHY at notes.ericsson.se because: Router: Unable to open mailbox file GBTC-ETL-NM01/ETL/ERICSSON mail.box: Unable to find path to server -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... 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From: kerry Subject: Sinister: thanks for the advice, tho i didn't use any of it Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 04:14:38 -0400 Size: 6047 URL: From markniciu at xxx.com Sat Oct 16 09:12:53 1999 From: markniciu at xxx.com (Mark Niciu) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 01:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: DELIVERY FAILURE: Router: Unable to open mailbox file GBTC-ETL-NM01/ETL/ERICSSON mail.box: Unable to find path to server Message-ID: <19991016081253.11085.qmail@hotmail.com> Your message Subject: Sinister: Anyone for "best of" lists? was not delivered to: ETLRDHY at notes.ericsson.se because: Router: Unable to open mailbox file GBTC-ETL-NM01/ETL/ERICSSON mail.box: Unable to find path to server -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Mark Niciu" Subject: Sinister: Anyone for "best of" lists? Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 01:12:53 PDT Size: 3968 URL: From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sun Oct 17 09:56:14 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 09:56:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Looper at Virgin Message-ID: <00b501bf187d$78417e80$4ad0b0c2@default> This was really good fun, and a great set too. I love Y2K, I wish I had taken a tape recorder (or even had one to take ) On the way to the gig, I was walking along with Heather McDonald and I was singing TIJAMRS, I got to the line 'Stuart's staying in...' and Stuart Murdoch nearly ran into me. Heather spent the next five mins saying 'Oh my GOD!' very loudly and shockedly :) Chris Geddes was apparently floating around too, I think I spotted him and Isobel talking outside the gig, but I'm not positive. Stuart David was really cool, and told me not to go to Cash Converters as they'll rip me off. I really wish I could afford not to, but half my CD collection is now being sold to finance my life until my next student loan installment (or until I find a job). Wish me luck folks, -- Jason Andreas -- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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From: "Jason Andreas" Subject: Sinister: I'm joining the ranks of writers :) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 09:43:33 +0100 Size: 3858 URL: From macarthur at xxx.com Sun Oct 17 12:00:37 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 12:00:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: pardon. Message-ID: I think my mail went on a bit of a bender last night. I sent it out at 7.30 pm and it didn't come back until 01.08, which is tres bizzare. Anyway, by this hour I'd spoken to the wee H herself and found out we're not attending Hefner because of CHER. as she's said. Porn is woman hatred, you know... Erica x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk Sun Oct 17 12:29:57 1999 From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (sweetie) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 12:29:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: best of lists Message-ID: <000201bf1899$a8b106a0$3c1f883e@anne666theasylum> well b4 i joined sinister i read the horror stories of best of lists. but im sure that perhaps if we all behaved like good ickle boys and girls and maybe all agreed that list mummy was to decide what our best of lists were to be then it might just work out. maybe. that could maybe save the extreme stupidity of some best of lists. but what do i know. actually now i think about it, i dont like the idea. i like sinister the way it is. :) your cluless friend always me myself and everyone else sweetie :) xox icq# 44244252 ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Life isn't a rehearsal, it's for real. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From durkw at xxx.com Sun Oct 17 14:04:41 1999 From: durkw at xxx.com (Derek Wuenschirs) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:04:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: everybody wants something.. References: <199910162210.QAA24407@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: <005101bf18a0$2edc80a0$aa6e38d4@cs479060a> > Subject: Sinister: they'll take your money and never give up Nothing makes me feel closer to home than a bit of good 'ol Zit Remedy. I went to the school where the degrassi episodes for shot, and I often found myself walking down the ramp, playing Joey to my imaginary Caitlyn. Sweet Canadian melodrama. As -if- I saw "Wheel's" from Degrassi outside Toronto's Horseshoe tavern the night of the Mogwai show... looper + free virgin megastore gig = bitchin' á bientot, derek --- [derek wuenschirs] [durkw at home.com] [london, uk] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sun Oct 17 14:55:36 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:55:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Mogwai Meetup? Message-ID: <003101bf18a7$4ad5e4c0$e9173c3e@default> Anyone who's going on the 23rd of October to the Barrowlands, Glasgow, let me know and we'll all get together beforehand :) ----->List abuse, sorry <---------- -- Jason Andreas -- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From igh1 at xxx.uk Sun Oct 17 15:13:37 1999 From: igh1 at xxx.uk (igh1) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 15:13:37 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: TIIIIIIGGGGGEEEEEERRRRMMMMMIIILLLKKK!!!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello one and all . . . Ah, what a great weekend. First of all let me say thank you to all those kind and lovely souls who wrote back to me about the price of Tigermilk - there were just too many of you for me to reply individually, so sorry, but here's a big fat THANKS. I don't want to gloat (well, not too much anyway - my housemates are sick of me screaming TIIIIGGGEEEERRMMMIIIILLLLKKKKK!!!! at the top of my voice, so I'll only do it once here, I promise (although I s'pose that could count as twice, but nevermind :-))). Anyways, on Saturday I managed to buy the most unbelivably mint condition copy of Tigermilk I've ever seen (although it is the only one I've seen) (oh dear, I must have caught bracketitis off a fellow Sinisterine :-)). Kin Woo scribbled: > Also does anyone know what the deal with the "Mary Jo" > single is? I have an old Select (this year) which > contains an advert for "Mary jo" by B&S > but nowhere else is there a mention of this. HELP!!!:) Indeed, I have the copy of Select about which you're talking (the one with Blur and the Tigermilk review, I think) pondered this myself on many occasions, and have now come to the conclusion that it was in fact an advert for the whole album . . . unless someone who actually knows one way or the other would like to set the record straight???!!! Non B&S bit: Erica complained: > unless you're the jumping up and down > jeering beer-boy types - yes, I mean *you*! that was ME > scowling at you from the mosh on Wednesday at dingwalls, > you swines) Ah, how much I hate those jumpy-up-and-down-moshpit-y-people. Last night this really crap band played our uni, and a load of physic geeks (no offence anyone out there who does physics, but, hey, if you saw this lot, you'd call 'em geeks too :-)) jumped up and down, making the whole night worse cos they trod on my feet and spilt my beer all over me . . . At least I got to laugh heartily as the jumped up and down completely out of time, but that's not the point. Now, I used to think this was an affliction only bands such as the Stereophonics suffered, so imagine my shock when I saw the Happy Mondays at T In The Park (expecting friendly Scottish crowds - got a bunch of rude arseholes, in general, although some B&S/Smiths songs were played on the speakers in between bands, and Ooberman were fantastic, but anyway . . .) when people moshed to . . . the Happy Mondays. Oh yes. They then proceeded to throw their sweaty arms around me and ask why I wasn't joining in!!! Eventually, I managed to move to the side and DANCE, but RAAAA. How can anyone mosh to the Happy Mondays. Earlier on in the day, some freaky Placebo/Manics fan (two of my most hated groups in the whole world) had covered his face and hair in sun cream, resulting in making himself look like a right TWAT. He then moshed with about four of his mates to Muse (who were pretty disappointing on the whole), crushing this poor wee lass into the mud, and just laughing. Some kids then threw a liquid over them and started chuckling when the moshing twats acted like they thought everyone reckoned they were heroes . . . until they smelt what had been thrown over them. Usually I am anti-throwing-of-piss, but on this one occasion I was stricken with mirth :-) Ok, I'd better go now, so byeeeeeee, Ian. *********************** Ian Hatcher igh1 at ukc.ac.uk rutherford jcc ents#1 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris.jones at xxx.uk Sun Oct 17 18:17:23 1999 From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:17:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Angry adverts Message-ID: <199910171807.TAA23126@smtp.saqnet.co.uk> Thanks and sorry, I had soooooooooooooo many responses about 'that' Bowie song that I should have known. Most people were really nice, but one or two mailed me in a "you stupid idiot, you should have known that" stylee. My excuse is that I wasn't actually born when that record came out and I'm not a Bowie fan. I hope this is reasonable. Sorry and thanks. Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Oct 17 19:08:50 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:08:50 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Meet before Looper Oxford Street In-Store? Message-ID: <199910171409_MC2-894C-13B0@compuserve.com> Hi Sinistereens, Couldn't see anything on the Beepstah board, but does anyone have plans to meet anywhere before the book-signing/gig tomorrow evening? If so, where & when? Honey, this is abuse & I therefore deserve punishment. I'll report to your desk at the Library with the cat'o'nine tails, & the cactus, as usual. Regards, David (& Pam, & Sally) Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sun Oct 17 20:52:51 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 12:52:51 PDT Subject: Sinister: passing on Message-ID: <19991017195251.80233.qmail@hotmail.com> Incoming from that dear EA... love, genevieve (wondering why shes never got to do any of that stuff while SHE was in quebec!)Tis the farm life for me,I'm afraid. >Well...last week, I got a message saying that I had a voice on this here >hotmail account, but I guess I don't...so Pookie will pass this on to >you.... > >>I thought I'd let you all in on my new life here in Montreal>>> > >HAUNTED >>I thought I'd left Toronto behind...but in the room in which I'm staying, >>there's a tacky drugstore painting of the waterfront...CN Tower and >>all...on one of the walls in my room...*sigh*>> WORK >>Work is marvelous. It's 85% boys...and I say boys because it's a video >>game company. There's one lovely gal called Stella on my web team...just >>we too girls among a gang of thugs...most of whom happen to be um, very >>attractive.> > >>DRINKING >>Happy Hour is outlawed in Ontario but it's alive and well here in Quebec. >>The 'list' as it's known (yay! I'm with the cool people *blah*) headed >>over to this *mmm mmm* pub called 'Le dieu du ciel' or 'The god of the >>sky.' This place brews its own beer...I had 'deese nocturne' or 'night >>goddess' - a dark beer much like Boddington's but without the head (a >>night goddess that doesn't give head...what good is that?) ANYWAY...what >>took place over the next oh, 7 hours could only be described as pure >>mayhem...I imagine that many Sinister events turn out like this...lots of >>tit grabbing, stumbling, >>dopey guys dancing the jig, kissing, and one guy (who's one half of a >>mighty cool couple) had his winky attacked by his drunken friends....wow! >>that's all I can say...my party days are here again! > >APARTMENT >>I've found a cushy place in a condo complex on the Plateau - the coolest >>place ever. There's a new alternative movie centre nearby and the Museum >>of Comedy is right next door. It's but 15 minutes from work and there's >>an indoor pool and laundry facilities (after living in dumps for the past >>3 years...) In the dead of winter (which IS deadly here) I will be able >>to stay inside and still find lots to do. It helps that my friend Ron's >>ex-bf lives in the same building...perhaps the odd snowstorm will permit >>me a >dinner or two with this gorgeous specimen.>> > >B&S >>I miss you all sooo much. A BIG "HELLO!" to my regular email friends and >>the IRC people. I'm sure lots of people in Montreal like B&S...people >>here are very individualistic, open-minded, and happy to discuss ideas, >>get goofy...reminds me of my university days. It's so socially liberal! >>Sex cabarets next to condom shops next to cannabis boutiques next to gay >>bookshops...hahahaha Oh, I heard Looper on Radio Sonic last night...don't >>think I like SD's stuff...lacks the texture of B&S. (Picked up 'Terror >>Twilight' by Pavement yesterday...c'est tres tres bon...'Spit on a >>Stranger'esp.)> > > >>...off to see 'Fight Club' tonight with my old friend V. I admire Edward >>Norton immensely...it's not a sexual thing at all...he seems just so >>fiercely intelligent and he's just my type of guy :)>> > >bye luvs! >xo >ea > >oh...and Degrassi Jr. High started the year I entered Jr. High. It really >helped me! I got to see that the lives of these kids were messier than >mine. A student at York U in Toronto has a Degrassi-spotting web >site...don't know the URL..She'll post your sightings and tales of vice. >>__________________ > >____________________________________ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Sun Oct 17 23:20:12 1999 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 15:20:12 PDT Subject: Sinister: like telling e. e. cummings to use caps. Would he listen? No. Little n. Little o Message-ID: <19991017222014.70192.qmail@hotmail.com> The worst thing happened to me. Ok, so it wasn't THE worst since neither fire, rabbits, midgets, or leather was involved. But it wasn't the best thing either. Something terribly embarrassing happened to me yesterday in which 3 people witnessed. I was hoping that it would all be forgotten and no one would mention again. Well, of course it wasn't. Now, it was most humiliating so I won't go into details but just know that I"m not too easily embarrassed. Most likely because I'm so used to it - but this is horrid. Anyway, the 2 guys who saw it will not let up. Today, I saw one and quickly tried to leave the area before he saw me. Unfortunately, I was too late and he latched on my arm retelling all of the events in a loud manner so everyone could here. I walked quicker, mumbled 'that's nice - glad i could entertain. thanks. go away.' but he kept at it. I finally ditched him, sat down, and buried my face in my hands. That's when my mother came up to me laughing saying how the other guy had just told her the FUNNIEST thing about me. He said they had laughed at me for almost 2 hours and of course they're spreading the tale. ACK! I spent the next hour plotting my demise. There were no sharpened pencils or anything else with a point around so I was getting creative. Anyway, does anyone have any stories about embarrassing things that happened to them, where they thought they were going to die but it turned out ok? Please share them with me - I need hope and a good chuckle. As you can gather, I completely approve, condone, and partake in talking about one's personal life to the list - especially if you need some place to vent and be comforted. What else are we here for? I mean I heard this nasty little rumor once that it was to talk about b&s but isn't that what we end up listening to when these things happen to us? We're a community - perhaps a family (although a strange one with a mother named Honey with over a thousand illegitimate kiddies). We each have our own talents, gifts to the list, problems, and so forth. In college, I assigned each of my roommates & myself (6 total) a role like those of the abusive family - the abuser, the lost child, the hero, the scapegoat, etc. I got labelled the scapegoat since as one of my roommates said, "If there is something in the apartment broken, Laura did it." (She was a sweetie. She also told one guy, who was a friend of her boyfriend, who said he would like to go out with me even though he had just met me, "Guys like you don't date girls like Laura." I never had the courage to ask her what she meant). So, if any of you need a scapegoat feel free to blame me for your problems. I'll take complete responsibility for you failing that test, forgetting your mom's birthday, robbing the 7-11, napalming innocent children in Asia, or wearing white after Labor Day. Personally, I plan to inform the list if any of the following things happen to me: 1. I marry and change my last name. After all, it would effect how I sign my posts. 2. Become a superhero. Unless, I have to keep my identity a secret. Well I guess most superheros do - so scratch this one. 3. Have any illicit affairs with the president or any state officials. (However, I retain the right to cry to Barbara Walters and pose for magazines before sharing any details with the list.) 4. Publish all of my e-mails in book form. I'm thinking deluxe, leather-bound, limited edition. Maybe an audiotaped version where you get a famous actor to read it, like Michelle Pfeiffer, Sandra Bullock, or maybe even Isobel or Wynonna Ryder or Jewel or Rich Little doing an impression of Tattoo from Fantasy Island.... However, I absolutely refuse to tell the post if I die. Sorry, it just ain't going to happen..... Random Thought: Does anyone else completely love autumn? Mmmm there is nothing about it that I do not like. The trees changing color, the briskness of the air, the smells, the pies, the apple cider, Halloween approaching.... MMM, how could this not be your favorite season? Sorry, I just finished making a pumpkin pie from scratch and am revelling in the season. Its the first time I've attempted such a task and besides the fact that it looks like Charlie Brown's Great Pumpkin Patch has been relocated to our kitchen - it turned out well. Ok back on task.... Sincereness personified in the form of Dan Hooper said, >"She even told me that I was 'too perfect'." Well, there's the problem - too much perfection. I've been accused of such things myself. ha ha ha. To me the whole knowing someone through letters before you actually know them has been romanticized through movies (Shop Around the Corner, You Got Mail) and songs (Impossible Things #2). Stories which make me sigh and get that warm fuzzy feeling like I've just drunk spoiled milk (did that one for you, dan � hehe) but never seem to apply to me. There are some people who I adore receiving e-mails from. They never fail to leave my face with a smile, my heart with a chuckle, and my spirit edified. I also think that a part of us is revealed in letters that otherwise others would be ignorant about. As John Donne said, "More than kisses, letters mingle souls." Well, I would like to thank you all again for all the wonderous posts that you write. They're so intriguing, alluring, _enigmatic_ if you will. Only once in my life have I responded to a list the way I've responded to this one, but I've forgotten when it was or even if it was in fact me that responded. I may not know much, but I know that the wind sings belle and sebastian's name endlessly, although with a slight lisp that makes it difficult to understand if I'm standing near an air conditioner... humiliatingly yours, Laura 'meeting all of your Laura Llew needs since 1977' ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 05:24:16 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 00:24:16 EDT Subject: Sinister: list nonsense Message-ID: <0.673b655c.253bfaf0@aol.com> hello all.. I don't mean to rain on anyone's little parade, but I really would hate to see a Top 10 List get started here. I'm not kidding. I nearly ground my teeth to powder when the Smiths get brought up here; Top 10 is much worse. If anyone has a burning desire to find out what music a person likes, email them personally and ask. Sorry to fuss, but the traffic has been really high, and my mailbox has been clogged with posts. I'd prefer to not go to digest format, cos i know i would just get tired of looking through one big email and unsubscribe. And I like reading some of the letters here. Has anyone actually read Nalda Said yet? If so, please email me personally and let me know how it is. I'm most curious toadstools dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GoGoEcho at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 06:25:09 1999 From: GoGoEcho at xxx.com (GoGoEcho at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 01:25:09 EDT Subject: Sinister: WELL thanks and I've been busy Message-ID: <0.7cf3f1a2.253c0935@aol.com> I'd like to say thanks to all of you who sent me some names of french singers. I'm sorry it took so long for me to thank you but I've been busy. I started school, I'm a photo major and work at school; so I've been quite busy. This is my first chance to do anything that's not school related. I've spent everyday at school or out shooting. School is just so overywhelming all my classes have so much work it sucks. Well I'm done complaining Later, adam +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 07:41:22 1999 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:41:22 PDT Subject: Sinister: my ex-girlfriend on drugs, shagging and love Message-ID: <19991018064123.28250.qmail@hotmail.com> Horror. Absolute horror. I'm supposed to interview the Wannadies tomorrow. They've got a new album that just came out and they are doing some promoting here. Well, I called their recordcompany and booked a meeting. 20 minutes with the coolest goy in pop, Per (the singer with the moppy hair). How will I survive? I don't know. My first interview with a person who really is a Star. I'm going to stutter and make a jackass of myself, I know it. Btw, strange how easy it was for me to get their new cd. I just phoned this nice women who runs their business here. "Hi, this is Jarkko from Sue- magazine. the 'Dies are doing some promoting here, am I right? Could you book me some time with them?" "Yeah they are. I've never heard of the mag you work for, but where do you want me to send their promo-cd?" Geez. I mean, anyone could call them up and lie and get a free cd from there. No-one has just never thought of that. The great part of this is that I never got the cd for some reason, so she is sending some guy to bring it to me today. To my FLAT, for gods sake. Made me feel rather important. Well, onto some other stuff now. Met my ex-girlfriend on saturday. I bought some beer and she bought herself a bottle of red wine. Drinking, listening to Hefner (she fell in love with them. Mainly because of "A hymn for the alcohol") and talking. Great. Except she talked about her adventures in the chemical world again, which wasn't THAT nice. She smoked some heroin about a month ago. Erm... not my cup of tea, honey. Other things she told me about: 1) The person who she had a sexaffair for two months still keeps calling her. This is the same guy she lost her "backdoorvirginity" to (and no, I didn't want to hear that either). 2) she did a whole bunch of drugs while interrailing. These included heroin (again), LSD, hash and some speed. But she did not inject anything to her body, just smoked them, so it didn't matter (yes, she said that, not me). 3) She is seeing someone now, but she doesn't love him. Just likes to keep a regular shag. 4) I look cool (which made me feel mighty pleasent). So as you can see, on the other hand I had fun with her but on the other hand it was hell for me. What else? Oh, Ani DiFranco is coming here in about a month. Hope to god she doesn't play her song "Pulse". It's not nice to see a grown man cry. And now... a cigarette. @--->--- Jake le petit "You must be tired, you've been running around in my mind the whole day." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tigermilk1 at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 23:34:31 1999 From: tigermilk1 at xxx.com (Elizabeth Arnott) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:34:31 EST Subject: Sinister: sooty... or was it sweep... Message-ID: <19991018073437.3159.qmail@hotmail.com> Does anyone think that the part of the song in "Mayfly" just after he sings "but you would love him anyway" sounds like Sweep (you know that dog puppet from the sooty and sweep show or whatever it was called). Because of this similarity i can no longer take the song seriously, not that Belle and Sebastian should be taken seriously anyway! Thaken seriously as a spoon full of sugar... Well that is all perhaps i should retreat to my game of freecell and dream about kissing boys with black rimmed glasses... Do boys tell the secrets, that their girlfriends told them after they break up? Just being paranoid.... Flying liz Attack! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From markniciu at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 08:38:30 1999 From: markniciu at xxx.com (Mark Niciu) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 00:38:30 PDT Subject: Sinister: Attention: Those Interested in Composing "Best of..." Lists Message-ID: <19991018073831.77831.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey y'all, At the behest of list mummy Honey, I've decided to take my "Top..." list requests to personal e-mail correspondence. This should prevent clogging the list with arguments that proceed as such: "Blur's "13" is shite. Mogwai's "Come On Die Young" is much better because they have shirts to prove it!" The first list for you constructing pleasure is "The Top 15 Albums of 1999". Therefore, please mail a "Top 20 (N.B. 20, not 15) Albums of 1999" list (in numerical order, of course, with "1" being the best album of the year and "20" being the twentieth best album) to markniciu at hotmail.com before the 1 November (this deadline is flexible and may be extended depending upon the quantity of contributions). I will tabulate the results by assigning a score as follows: #1 receives 20 points, #2 chalks up 19 points, #3 marks 18 points, etc. The final results will be posted to this list; I will also construct a web page with the results of our lists reified for all eternity to the adulating or excoriating eyes of all Sinisterines, unbelievers, Steps fans, etc. A few words of interest regarding this list, and, more specifically, what the title "Best Album of 1999" precludes from consideration. First, only LPs may tabulate votes; thus, any votes for Godspeed You Black Emperor!'s "Slow Riot for New Zero Kanada", no matter how fucking top this masterpiece is, will be for naught, as it is an EP. Second, the album must have been released in its country of origin in the year 1999 C.E. (or A.D., depending upon one's devotion to a wandering, itinerant Jew who strode the earth approximately two thousand years ago). Therefore, any votes for Manic Street Preachers "This is My Truth..." from U.S. fans will also be for naught as the Welsh trio ("Richey, Richey, where are you?") released this album in the British Isles in 1998 albeit it was released in the U.S. this year. As I probably will not be familiar with every item voted for in this list, can you please do some homework and ascertain that you are voting for an album released this year in its country of origin(or surrounding countries, as the case may be) in 1999? I simply don't have the time or the patience to check every single record. If this list is a success, viz., more than 50 respondents, the next list will be a "Top X Reissues, EPs, Singles, etc., of 1999". I promise that you'll have the opportunity to vote for "Tigermilk" in this list! Peace, Mark ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Mon Oct 18 09:27:52 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:27:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Snap, Crackle, Splat! Message-ID: <011a01bf1942$ff5d3e20$19d7b0c2@default> Hello twee majority :) Well, the holidays are almost over, and it's college again for me tomorrow :( Still, it's been nice, and I actually managed to do something nice for once, so it wasn't all bad. I did get beaten up again last night though :( Neds, again. They seem to be waging some sort of war against me because I don't fight back. Maybe I should start. Any Mr/Mrs Miyagi figures here ready to teach me how to defend myself again a bunch of drunken hooligans? Thought not, oh well, here's to black eye number 56378! :) As my money has finally ran out completely, I'm going to have to apply for a 'Hardship loan' through the college. Has anyone done this before and can tell me anything about it? I seem to be unable to meet any new Scots in Scotland. I know that this sounds a little odd, but of all the people I spoke to at the Looper gig, 2 were American, 2 Greek, 2 English, 1 from Norway, 1 from Spain and one who couldn't speak English, so I dunno where he was from :) Not that I mind, it's nice to open yourself to new ideals and so forth. ***Laura LLew wished to hear embarassing experiences:*** Hmm. I don't know what you'll all think of me after hearing this one, but here goes.... I was at a party, I was only invited so that I would bring my friend (whom the girl in question had the hots for). Well, the music started playing and we were all dancing, and during a wee conga, you know, step step KICK, step step KICK, I managed to kick over the stereo. Bye bye music. Hello embarassment as I tried to pick it up and put the music back on I managed to collide with the girls brother, who was about four foot tall, and he went flying in the opposite direction, only to land *head first* in his sister's crotch. Needless to say, I ran away and never looked back :) I now pass the newly born *embarassment puppy* to Jarkko Frantila, as he seems a nice chap :) What's everyone doing at Halloween? Is anyone dressing up and going out? I want to be a 'Blinking Bear' from the Radiohead website, but I have absolutely no idea how to go about it :( Failing that, I'll be a dog on wheels (which seems relatively simple to achieve ) Anyway, I have spoken too much already, and now I must go. cheerio! -- Jason Andreas -- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Andrew_2_Lloyd at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 09:46:59 1999 From: Andrew_2_Lloyd at xxx.com (Andrew_2_Lloyd at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:46:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The sweetness lies within Message-ID: <8025680E.00304DB2.00@uksmtp01.ha.uk.sbphrd.com> Reading University, Saturday Night, 8.30, the coffee lounge - DJ played above tune by Hefner. It made a huge welcomness change from the techno in there last year. Any of youse luverly peoples whose are gonna be at Da Doo Ron Rons on Wednesday night I hope to gladly see youse there. I'll be the guy with the seventies wallpaper style black and white diamond t-shirt and bleachy blond (yellowish) hair. Love Marine Research, but they'll never replace Talula Gosh Nothings as sweet as a smile Andi +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 10:58:46 1999 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 02:58:46 PDT Subject: Sinister: beans guest dj'ing Message-ID: <19991018095847.67108.qmail@hotmail.com> Happy Birthday to doo, happy Birthday to doo, happy Birthday dear Da Doo Ron Ron, happy Birthday to you!� � Yes indeedy,� Steve Lamacq's Radio 1 Evening Session are the latest to big up the fantabulous 1st Birthday knees-up of 60's girl group and femme soul club DA DOO RON RON this Wed 20 OCTOBER @ Po Na Na, 259, Upper St, Highbury Corner, London. N1 (Tel:-0171-359-6191) Guest DJ's include Beans Geddes, kitten on the keyboards for Scots Brit-scooping pastoral popsters BELLE & SEBASTIAN and B & S Tour DJ Andrew Symington.� So, come and join the gang that dig Doo Lang and celebrate original 6T's girl power. WED 20th OCTOBER � @ Po Na Na, 259, Upper St, Highbury Corner, London. N1 (Tel:-0171-359-6191) � Door open @ 9.00pm.� Admission is �3 w/flyer �5 w/o Regular DJ's Chris King & Declan Allen plus special guest BEAN GEDDES from BELLE & SEBASTIAN spin fab 45's from the femme-centric likes of The Ronettes, Shangri-La's, Martha & Vandellas, Velvelettes, Chiffons, Dusty, Aretha, Petula, Flirtations, Maxine Brown, Candy & The Kisses, Supremes, Lesley Gore, Little eva, The Cookies, The Crystals, Darlene Love, The Angels, Tammi Terrell, The Shirelles et al For further info please mail DDRR promoter & organiser Chris King direct: c.king at easynet.co.uk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 12:19:23 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:19:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Cher stole my fun Message-ID: Kids, I went to Ware this weekend instead of starting a new job in Barney's Grill, a choice which I have decided was well made after sitting in one of Ware's own greasy spoons. I went in and sat down as always - they sually look at me in a strange way, but this time they decided to just deny my existance. Which was nice. I walked out in a bit of a huff, and Hannah suggested we go to the new posh cafe down the road. "You know, the nice silvery one with the glass tables", she said. Only it turns out she'd actually dreamt up this lovely new cafe. She does stuff like that, bless her. >to wonderful Erica's devoted tape making and covers which just made me wonderful meaning a crap quality tape with no inlay, perhaps? I was organised with my tapes for a little while. I decided my underwear drawer was to become my tape draw (doesn't everyone have pants strewn across their bedroom floor anyway?) and ordered them up. All the belle and sebastian live recordings together, like a proper nerd. I'd probably be quite a good nerd, I do nerd-ish things all the time, like spill drinks down myself. Oh and not forgetting my foolish attempts at "dancing". someone said: >HEFNER (summertime, summertime, summertime) >What did the girl write on Darrens coat? She wrote "GET YOUR HAIR CUT YOU MESSY BRUTE". Or was it brutish mess? Kin Woo said: >Ah, how much I hate those >jumpy-up-and-down-moshpit-y-people I believe in moshing, I really do. Just in it's place, and that place not being anywhere near me and my little toes. The last time I was in a proper mosh a boy was being bumped up and down above the crowd, when Joy of Joys! his wallet n a chain fell out of his pocket and someone gallantly ripped it off (tearing his baggy shorts at the same time) and scampered off gleefully in the direction of the beer tent. Brilliant! It would have been one of my favorite moments, had I not been stuck watching the Prodigy in a muddy field in Chelmsford. Anyways, must dash, theres a muffin at the bakers with my name on it and we only get an hour for lunch. Call me! Oh, and I should be getting my kitten heels out (for the lads) at Da Doo Ron Ron this wednesday - maybe I'll "boff" Chris Geddes! Or maybe not. Is big brother watching? If so, play Darlene Love's 'wait till my bobby get's home'. Or else. Erica x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Mon Oct 18 12:54:55 1999 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:54:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tall and surprisingly buff Message-ID: Oi! Someone mentioned Harry Hill impersonating Morrissey on Stars In Their Eyes. I wish I'd seen this cos I think Harry Hill is ace, and the thought of those lapels with a Morrisey like quiff is rather exciting. I was reading something yesterday about how his best mate is Al Murray the Pub Landlord and how they once went on a tour of Britain's fish and chip shops, giving marks to their fish suppers. I like the sound of that. Robin x PS If anyone is going to see Looper in Nottingham on Thursday, and wants to go for a drink or anything, could you get in touch? PPS Brandt, don't worry about feeling self-centred. There's nothing self-centred about worrying about other people. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Mon Oct 18 14:14:37 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:14:37 -0400 (EWT) Subject: Sinister: Book banning/Degrassi Jr. High/etc. Message-ID: Someone posted that as late as the 1980s books were being banned in this country. Try as late as Oct. 18th 1999. Books are constantly being banned in the US South, and I think this shows what the real issue is--that people who read tend to be the ones who are well informed and question the world around them. I'm rather shocked that the Harry Potter (wasn't that a character on MASH?) books are catching shit, as they don't seem to be all that deep, but then again it is the American way to dictate how other people should live their lives. My mom's boyfriend does it all the time. (I'm not going there) I bet it's because the author is from Scotland--Pat Robertson warned us how Scotland has all of those homosexuals. Now I guess we are finally starting to listen. Please. I am starting to get really sick of American Moral Righteousness. No wonder I am so sour on Christianity. Let's talk about Degrassi for a second. I have been wishing lately that they would put this back on the air. When I was in my teen years I never watched Degrassi (I watched 15 however, which featured the actor who now plays Berg on Two Guys and a Girl) but had I just sit down to the telly not 30 minutes earlier every saturday I could have watched it. Unfortunately at the time I viewed Degrassi as an impedement to my watching Doctor Who which I watched religiously. How I regret the impetuousness of my youth. John K. is going to hate me for this, but I have been trying to get this Marine Research LP to warm up to me, and all I can think is how much better the earlier Heavenly stuff is. I like it, but I just think that the best days may be behind them. I heard the greatest radio show the other night on WOBC Oberlin College Radio. Unfortunately that was the same night my Mom went to the emergency room. So I never really got to express my appreciation. So if you do a show on OBC from 10-midnight on Thursdays--Great work. I'll be listening. Thanks again to all of the people who sent me e-mail of support. You guys are great. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 14:23:14 1999 From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE DICKIE) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 06:23:14 PDT Subject: Sinister: DEVOTION IS THE TIME Message-ID: <19991018132314.55212.qmail@hotmail.com> IT HAS BEEN A WHILE ETC I'M GOING TO SEE JOE STRUMMER TODAY IN NOTTS SHOULD BE GOOD ETC SOMEONE MENTIONED POKEMON I LOVE POKEMON DOES ANYONE WANT TO TRADE??? PEOPLE IN HOT POTS PEOPLE IN TOWN PEOPLE WITH PEOPLE ALL OVER THIS LAND A BOY IS A BOY A GIRL IS A GIRL A BOY WITH A GIRL IS A GIRL WITH A BOY WHATEVER HAPPEND TO TAB CLEAR ???????????? ENGLAND V SCOTLAND THAT IS GOOD BYE BYE SCOTLAND HARD LUCK BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME HA HA HA HA MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM OH BRANDT WORD TO YA MOTHER HOPE SHE FEELING GOOD YO PUFF THE MAGIC DRAGON LIVES BY ISOBEL SAD FLUFFY GHD ETC ETC ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u02nim at xxx.uk Mon Oct 18 21:53:23 1999 From: u02nim at xxx.uk (Iain McGilp) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:53:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: The Pumpetus of Love Message-ID: Good Moaning, (as in the English policeman from "Allo Allo") Being a damn nice guy I felt that that I should write and forewarn anyone planning to attend Snow Patrol's Aberdeen gig as part of the Alternative Festival to turn up late, as support is beng provided by the innocuous sounding but truly horrific Needles. These perrenials of the Aberdeen "scene" don't just stink in an ordinary sense, they really stink. Think the 3 month old corpse of a particularly committed Levellers fan. In a sauna. To make matters worse they seem to believe in the "healing and redemptive power of rock 'n' roll", which means attempting to sound like the mAKE-UP or John Spencer Blues Explosion. Except with Aberdonian accents. Think the John Spencer Yeast Infection and you're moving along the right lines. I heard the most fantastic insult ever the other evening. It was like a Free Jazz insult; formless and continually evolving: "You are such a wank Fraser. No, serious, a total wank. You are such a wank you have a poster of Keith Chegwin on the wall of your flat. In the nuddy. With his knob slapped out on a table. There he is, with his chap in one hand, giving you the thumbs up with the other. And its autographed." I meant at some point during this incoherent heap of gibberish to mention Alexander Spence, The Nectarine No.9, Tommy Sheridan, Alasdair Gray, Claudio Caniggia and even Belle and Sebastian (crazy or what?). Oh well.. Good lovin' all round, Iain McG. ---------------------- Iain McGilp u02nim at abdn.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 18 17:33:15 1999 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (MBBX9FF2) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:33:15 BST Subject: Sinister: my dad accused me of having a fur fetish Message-ID: <3C8533F0710@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> i stumble out of the nursery gates, slightly dazed and blinking, dazzled by the bright sunshine of a world i've yet to fully explore. Squirrels and rabbits gambol and frolick as i try to get used to supporting myself alone in the world of sinister. I think i'm starting to get my emergence from the nursery confused with the plot of Bambi, but believe it or not, it took me two hours to think of a suitable fashion in which to begin my first post to the list (admittedly one of those hours was spent in a calculus lecture and i think that my recent purchase of the gentle waves album also influenced my thinking.) Anyway, i'll begin as is traditional by introducing myself, although it's hardly beginning as i'm already onto my third paragraph. My name is fiona and i'm just beginning my studies at uni in manchester. I've already spoken to one or two of you in other sinister-related correspondence, but for everyone else it won't be long before you are all desperately in love with me (particularly as most you won't have to endure the torment of actually meeting me in the flesh!) It seems of little use to ecstasise at length about my interests etc, as i feel we're all fairly similar to some extent in this community and its always more fun to get to know people as you go along. The only vaguely b+s related thing i can think of to mention is that i wore my bus t-shirt (a green +yellow one if you were interested) to university, not expecting any sort of reaction because it had never provoked one on previous outings, and i lost count of the number of people who told me it was cool, funky, .....[insert own adjective] I did say it was only vaguely b+s related, but i think that goes to show that there are a lot of appreciative souls out there, they just aren't all sad obsessives like i would consider myself to be. Despite the fact that it's my first post and i run the risk of getting myself thrown back into the nursery and list mummy throwing away the key, I have to add a gratuitous plug for my boyfriend's band Kitsch (still can't decide if i like the name) who are playing at Manchester's Night and Day Cafe tomorrow night-Tuesday 19th. They are in fact actually surprisingly good,(and you would be surprised by this if you met my boyfriend, who i recently caught wearing a nirvana t-shirt with a cardigan, but that's another story) If anyone does go, I'll be the really ott sparkly person, possibly with fur trimmed jeans. Huge apologies for that, but i'm being forced to do a big pr job on everyone i meet, and i already feel like i know you guys so well, but i promise i won't do it again, well not for a while anyway :) I'm sure that by now no-one is actually reading this because i've gone on far longer than i meant to and if any of you are anything like me then your attention span will be far too short to cope with hefty emails, so i shall leave you safe in the knbowledge that you will be hearing from me soon. stay beautiful, fiona >>>>----its the best years of your life they want to steal----<<<< +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stray4f at xxx.net Mon Oct 18 16:25:37 1999 From: stray4f at xxx.net (===) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:25:37 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Book banning/Degrassi Jr. High/etc. Message-ID: <199910181824.OAA55304@pimout7-int.prodigy.net> actually, nothing bookwise has been banned in the US (including it's Southern region) in quite some time. There's a difference between not stocking certain books in grade school libraries and actually "banning" them, and your misconceptions of the South are just as ill-informed and obnoxious as you accuse them of being. You want to examine a country/culture that in recent times actually bans artwork because it's citizens supposedly couldn't handle it? Then meet me in London to watch Clockwork Orange, the Exorcist, and The Evil Dead. Oh wait, you can't....Those films are banned/illegal. ---------- >From: Brandt Fundak >To: sinister at Majordomo.net >Subject: Sinister: Book banning/Degrassi Jr. High/etc. >Date: Mon, Oct 18, 1999, 9:14 AM > > >Someone posted that as late as the 1980s books were being banned in this >country. Try as late as Oct. 18th 1999. Books are constantly being >banned in the US South, and I think this shows what the real issue >is--that people who read tend to be the ones who are well informed and >question the world around them. I'm rather shocked that the Harry Potter >(wasn't that a character on MASH?) books are catching shit, as they don't >seem to be all that deep, but then again it is the American way to dictate >how other people should live their lives. My mom's boyfriend does it all >the time. (I'm not going there) I bet it's because the author is from >Scotland--Pat Robertson warned us how Scotland has all of those >homosexuals. Now I guess we are finally starting to listen. Please. I am >starting to get really sick of American Moral Righteousness. No wonder I >am so sour on Christianity. > >Let's talk about Degrassi for a second. I have been wishing lately that >they would put this back on the air. When I was in my teen years I never >watched Degrassi (I watched 15 however, which featured the actor who now >plays Berg on Two Guys and a Girl) but had I just sit down to the telly >not 30 minutes earlier every saturday I could have watched it. >Unfortunately at the time I viewed Degrassi as an impedement to my >watching Doctor Who which I watched religiously. How I regret the >impetuousness of my youth. > >John K. is going to hate me for this, but I have been trying to get this >Marine Research LP to warm up to me, and all I can think is how much >better the earlier Heavenly stuff is. I like it, but I just think that the >best days may be behind them. > >I heard the greatest radio show the other night on WOBC Oberlin College >Radio. Unfortunately that was the same night my Mom went to the emergency >room. So I never really got to express my appreciation. So if you do a >show on OBC from 10-midnight on Thursdays--Great work. I'll be listening. > >Thanks again to all of the people who sent me e-mail of support. You guys >are great. > >Brandt > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 19:41:26 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:41:26 EDT Subject: Sinister: Book banning/Degrassi Jr. High/etc. Message-ID: <0.a7e4f71f.253cc3d6@aol.com> In a message dated 10/18/99 2:26:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, stray4f at prodigy.net writes: << There's a difference between not stocking certain books in grade school libraries and actually "banning" them, and your misconceptions of the South are just as ill-informed and obnoxious as you accuse them of being. >> I must agree. I had to do a paper for this in college and books aren't really banned anymore in the conventional method. Granted, taking a book out of the curriculum is relatively "banning" it to that segment of the population at that time, which still sucks (plus, this happens most often in high schools not grade schools, providing an interesting entendre: you can operate a two ton motor vehicle but you can't choose what to put in your head). Ulysees, by James Joyce, was actually BANNED, in that the possession of it constituted a crime, but that was before 1920 no that doesn't really apply. The last book that really got the shit end of the stick (and still does) is our beloved Catcher in the Rye, which is prohitibited in more schools based on religious objections than any other. Of course, its never been outlawed like Ulysees and I had to read it and dissect it in AP English in high school two years ago. And as far as the South goes, Brandt has a point that southern states ban alot of books (not to mention start a furor over the things they can't ban), but then again Ohio, Pennsylvania and California take the most books out of curriculums and libraries out of any states in the Union. Two are above the Mason Dixon line, and California might as well be its own nation. Yes, Pat Robertson does suck and so does the Christian Coalition, although I'm not saying Christianity itself sucks because...well...I'm a Christian. Its just sad that people have co-opted an entire religion to enfore their moral codes. Parasites always kill their host and sadly Mr. Robertson is headed down this same path. Not like he's a big believer in things natural anyway... Adios Steve C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 20:17:43 1999 From: pinefox at xxx.com (b j) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:17:43 GMT Subject: Sinister: in the autumn? cool! Message-ID: <19991018191744.7954.qmail@hotmail.com> >Random Thought: Does anyone else completely love autumn? Yeah, it's fantastic. But you know, I think I might even prefer 'Autumn II'. It's a toss-up, so to speak, between that steady A strum and that lively D; between Simon and Garfunkel play 'Feel A Whole Lot Better' with Johnny Marr and Petula Clark on a rocky shore, and - other great things. In D. Between those *quite literally* inmitable riffs (try 'em) and that crazily brilliant bass excursion by that lunatic in the corner. re. BEST OFs Band Of The Week Honeymoon Diary? The Honeymoon Starts Here. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Mon Oct 18 20:20:50 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:20:50 -0400 (EWT) Subject: Sinister: I've been misconstrued... Message-ID: Well now that I have made to look quite the ass... 1.) My intention was not make a sweeping genralization about the US South, but I realize in the context that I placed it it could be taken that way. I am well aware of how intolerant Ohio can be...I've lived here all my life. Believe me, I'm not happy about it. 2. I have no problem with Christianity in general. What I have a problem with is when a Christian uses their beliefs to justify their horrible treatment of others. Christianity is supposed to be a spirituality of forgiveness and yet I have seen more people oppressed, beat down, and killed in Christ's name. And it isn't just Christianity--Any religion that pulls that sort of stunt rides me the wrong way; I simply lashed out with Christianity, because that is what is pushed in my face all of the time. It was not my intention to single out all Christians--my mom and brother are Christians--just the ones who take it too far. I hope this has cleared things up. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grey7 at xxx.net Mon Oct 18 20:26:30 1999 From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:26:30 -0400 Subject: Sinister: book banning Message-ID: <002d01bf199e$af10bc60$23381fce@default> >Someone posted that as late as the 1980s books were being banned in this >country. Try as late as Oct. 18th 1999. To those who corrected the terminology angle. Yes, *banning* no longer exists in the sense that books become illegal and possesion is a crime. However, there is still a congressional list of books that for lack of a better term is called the banned books list. This is the list I was refearing to, in the sense that a list existed started by a goverment sponsered agency to investigate appropriate reading material. This list is meant as a guide as to what books may be *dangerous* for children and others to read and has in the past included Huck Finn, James and the Giant Peach, Alice in Wonderland, the Bible for a short time, and so on. It existed as late as the 1980's and I've been told an *advisory* list and panel still exists as a congressional sub-sub-panel somewhere. Also, many churches and evangelical organizations have these types of lists. Also, it's not all christians doing the banning, Many groups try to supprese what they don't like. I'll use and example: last year a childrens book called Nappy Hair or somesuch was boycotted because of a precieved racism. The book was highly reguarded by many teachers and children as having a positive message about being oneself and it was boycotted and removed from a school because a person who hadn't read it assumed a racist intent. It went so far that the teacher who read the book to her class faced disciplinary actions as a result. Thankfully they were all cleared when the book was reviewed by parents and found to be not racist in the slightest. Talking to one of the local librarians I've found that many of the town's library books like Catcher in the Rye, and magazines like Cosmo (sex articles and the like) are routinly vandilized. The fellow who owns the local bookstore tells me that at least once a day someone complains about his stores content and demands he remove things like D&D games, Buddist texts, science fiction, etc. Beyond all that, let's try not to start a mudslinging contest between countries, okay? The taboos and censorship that exists in different countries all suck. Sure, Clockwork Orange may be banned in London (is it?) but Dogma was effectivly banned for awile because Kevin Smith couldn't get anyone to release it thanks to possible backlash from christians. As Steve mentioned banning ( or suppresion, or taking out of circulation, or whatever nomenclature you use) exists everywhere in America and other countries to certain degrees, and what gets banned depends largely on what cultural mores are present in what area. - Jim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Tigerxdare at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 20:56:11 1999 From: Tigerxdare at xxx.com (Tigerxdare at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:56:11 EDT Subject: Sinister: time precurse seasons cold and torn away Message-ID: ok i was in the record store this afternoon, and the guy working there was playing some awesome music. there was this one thing in particular that i thought was great and i remembered hearing it on college radio. anyways now i am home and kicking myself for not asking waht it was cuz i really want to listen to it. i dont remember the words to any of the songs, but there was this on part where there was a guy was just talking but i dont think there was any music playing and this is something along the lines of what he said-"so i had this idea for a song, but it wouldnt really be a song, it would be me explaining what the song would be like"..that is all i can remember but i beg of you all, if anyone knows who or what that is please please email me and let me know!! thank you darlings xoxo, lauren +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 21:02:22 1999 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: "hey j, i'm unravelling..." Message-ID: <19991018200222.19326.rocketmail@web113.yahoomail.com> hello, kittens! did i really post on friday night? ah, 'twas the vodka talking. well, i'll have you know that the tight black clothing did me no good, and the absolut did little more than make me behave in a way that drew many an amused look from my spanish professor. class was funny this morning ;) saturday night brought me to pittsburgh to see a neat local band called harm and also the rondelles, playing at the andy warhol museum. miss KIMberly and i (and a few others) hauled ourselves down to the city for this lovely occaision. i'll let kimmy tell you why the warhol museum is special to her (hint hint, miss kim! post, damnit!) harm were beautiful beautiful pop, and the rondelles kicked my butt. for reals. the drummer plays drums And the keyboard -- Simultaneously! beat that! can i just say how wonderful you all are? this current book-banning conversation on another list would have turned ugly in 2 seconds, complete with about 100 2-line emails like, "you ignorant *&%$$@#@!! get a clue!" or something. here we have prompt apologies/ clarification, and intelligent, well-informed replies. you all rock. tonight my artiste apartment-mate is taking me to her class/critique as part of "bring yr non-artist friend to class" day. i'm a bit nervous, seeing as how i actually Did take art once -- two years ago, basic drawing; i quit after one month. one month! i failed so miserably. darling miss lesley jo! where art thou?? i miss you! xoxo, marie ===== ************************************************************************************************* "I was a proper snob in college, as only a future lifetime English major can be" - buddy glass "to me she was just marie." -mersault ************************************************************************************************* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 21:05:35 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:05:35 PDT Subject: Sinister: golden pants, spinning round for our delight Message-ID: <19991018200536.75628.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear List, Yes..I as well am curious to reviews of "Nalda Said". That Stuart David! Is he a Renaissance man,or what? Pretty soon I shall be expecting a series of oil paints from him.Then maybe a Stuart David Collection For The Home,with his whimsical designs for bed and bath.Actually..right now 'Winter Wooksie' is my favourite Belle and Sebastian song..(is that correct? Is it Belle and Sebastian or just Stuart David) Its gives me a warm,pleasant feeling in my tummy as I walk through all the crunchy,coloured leaves.I tried really hard to think of sweary words in that Tim Hopkins competetion,but alas..well,I wont even tell you what I came up with because it was so sad.By GOD,i TRIED to incorporate bodily functions,but mine were so lame. Sigh..why doesn't anyone use the term 'lets get it on' anymore? That appeals to me much more.Ex: 'Ohmigod,did you see cornation street? Spider and Toyah were getting it on!' or 'martin platt and genevieve got it on' Oh,you! Halloween costumes. Oh what fun! I am always so ambitious to get a Xena Warrior princess costume,but it never happens.Have you ever tried getting a pre-packaged halloween costume if you're female? Everything is "spicy" or "seductive". 'Spicy Nurse' 'Spicy Medieval Princess' 'Seductive Witch'.And the costumes aren't even that seductive.All the girls on the packages have really really big...hair.And long,plastic nails.I'm actually going to be a french maid this year.But dont roll your eyes,its for that whole virgin rocky horror picture show thingy.Now,they call Belle and Sebastian fans weird and cult-ish? I'm sorry,but we are nowhere NEAR as freakish as the rocky horror fans.We are quasi cult.Ok,so we have fetishes for girls with thick glasses.When the boys on the list have fetishes for girls that look like Stuart Murdoch,THEN I will be impressed. Speaking of which,I think Stuart Murdoch would make a fine Rocky,running around in golden underpants.Can't you just see it? Hes got that whole look goin' on.But who would be the evil Dr.Frank? Hmmm,maybe that Stevie,hes got a bit of a sinister glint in his eyes,doesnt he? (Isobel could play the part of Meatloaf.Oh,I'm teasing.) So when is Belle&Sebastians new album coming out?? There better be at least ONE love ballad on it,dammit,sung in a low scottish growwwlll. Oh...by the way,I dont know,are there a lot of ye ye fans and 60's french pop and culture fans out there? I've decided my topic for my mega-ass french project and it would be nice if my bibliographie wasnt simply : 'Tag and Warrander J'. :) Any help apreciated! I went to the library and found a couple books,those 60's girls were stylin,man oh man. take care my precious ones, genevieve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 21:48:11 1999 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:48:11 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I always thought "The Good Life" was what marriage was all about Message-ID: <199910181648_MC2-8977-7B4E@compuserve.com> Ah, we are all sitting around the dinner table of Sinister. The food is nice, beer is free and company is polite. But what is it people say, erm, oh year, never discuss politics and religion. Though I don't know why mailto:stray4f at prodigy.net started slagging off the UK. The 'criticisms' of the US South came from an American living in America. But anyway, Lets not uncover the racism that exists far too close to the surface to be twee. Rob +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 22:52:26 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:52:26 EDT Subject: Sinister: Doofus:Re.Banned thingys. Message-ID: <0.3c7b37f5.253cf09a@aol.com> Just to point out that neither The Evil Dead nor A Clockwork Orange are in fact banned in the UK.Kubrick withdrew it voluntarily.Some research would seem to be the key,non? Steve S xx.Barry Norman for the 90's. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stray4f at xxx.net Mon Oct 18 20:48:39 1999 From: stray4f at xxx.net (===) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:48:39 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I always thought "The Good Life" was what marriage was all about Message-ID: <199910182247.SAA5599908@pimout3-int.prodigy.net> sorry about that, I was just trying to clarify on a UK based mailing list that slurs against the Southern US are cheap shots, and should be taken with a grain of salt by any one in the UK where I once tried to ship a vhs copy of Clockwork Orange to a friend only to have it returned by customs as banned material. I was told that it (along with such films as the Exorcist, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Evil Dead, Evil Dead II, and Abel Ferrara's Driller Killer) was illegal to import there. I was surprised, as I didn't realise that your government was in the business of banning things. Was I misled? Has the policy changed? Either way I felt the need to correct the misinformation on the list that the south has "constantly" banned books when they actually haven't, and I apologize for overextending my attempt at adding context to that correction. ---------- >From: Robert Foster >To: "Pooh Bear and Piglet (E-mail)" >Subject: Sinister: I always thought "The Good Life" was what marriage was all about >Date: Mon, Oct 18, 1999, 4:48 PM > >Ah, we are all sitting around the dinner table of Sinister. The food is >nice, beer is free and company is polite. But what is it people say, erm, >oh year, never discuss politics and religion. > >Though I don't know why mailto:stray4f at prodigy.net started slagging off the >UK. The 'criticisms' of the US South came from an American living in >America. But anyway, Lets not uncover the racism that exists far too close >to the surface to be twee. > >Rob +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogy at xxx.uk Tue Oct 19 00:43:23 1999 From: koogy at xxx.uk (andrew dean) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 00:43:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: looper: london Message-ID: <380BB09B.D3968EE0@clara.co.uk> looper played an instore at the virgin megastore this evening. it was ok, i guess, spoilt by the waiting and techno pagan octopus messiah bloke that went on before. 'doesn't it make you proud to be an american?' he kept asking. but i'm not an american and neither was anybody else in the crowd. a lot of them were japanese, some were undoubtably scottish but i didn't see any americans. except him, on stage, with the see through-shirt and the dastoordly looking orange trousers, spouting crap about doing drugs. not big or clever. look what happened to zammo. looper played half a dozen songs, er, up a tree, burning flies, ray suzuki, the one about the wee girl, a new one written on the american tour, the one about him and karn meeting and 'who's afraid of y2k?'. i think that's it. he also read a six minute chunk of his new book beforehand, the bit about the bloke stealing leaves so that the winter lady wouldn't know it was autumn. it made sense at the time but i'm not sure if it'd stand up in any court. afterwards he signed copies, he's probably still doing it now, but given that he finished at something to 12 rather than something past 10, well, i didn't hang around and will have to pester the bloke in books etc, hammersmith for two copies tomorrow. oh, and afterwards i saw trousers holding a girl's hand. sorry to have to break this to all the ladies out there who had their eyes on him, the list's most legible batchelor and all but there you go. i guess what miller said about papercuts was true after all. andy dum de dum, this was mentioned a while ago but i've not written anything since someone brought it up but i will now. it may sound trite and all that but i've felt better about death since reading neil gaiman's Sandman. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stray4f at xxx.net Tue Oct 19 06:23:02 1999 From: stray4f at xxx.net (===) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 01:23:02 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I always thought "The Good Life" was what marriage was all about Message-ID: <199910190821.EAA246928@pimout7-int.prodigy.net> not at all, not at all. no harm. What does 'Abigail's Party" refer to? >Sorry, later reading what I wrote I said racism, that was a bit strong. >Sorry about that. Infact, the more I read I did over react a bit. But >this Christian stuff, ugh, it's a bit Abigail's' Party. > >Erm, thinking about things, I saw Evil Dead on telly here a few years ago. >If they're putting it out on TV those custom boys must have been pulling >your leg. :) > >Sorry about screwing up a bit. > >Rob > >xxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi-tv at xxx.com Tue Oct 19 07:56:25 1999 From: jordi-tv at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano i Vilar) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:56:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Stus interview Message-ID: <19991019105625.HM.00000000001kbsd@mixmail.com> If i�m not wrong, then Stu gave an interview to Radio 1, isn�t it ? Does anyone have the interview in a tape ? I�m really curious about it�s content, and I can trade it for the lovely Barcelona gig of Sep.97 or the Bowlie one. If anyone can give a good answer, please use my other adress: jordi at belleandsebastian.org ================================================== Jordiet Sinistre ================================================== Tu E-Mail Gratis en http://www.mixmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Tue Oct 19 10:27:17 1999 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 02:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: woefully off topic: banned films Message-ID: <19991019092717.27738.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> someone: >You want to examine a country/culture that in recent >times actually bans artwork because it's citizens >supposedly couldn't handle it? Then meet me in London >to watch Clockwork Orange, the Exorcist, and The Evil >Dead. Oh wait, you can't....Those films are >banned/illegal. er, wrong, wrong and wrong i'm afraid (and that's 'its' rather than 'it's'). the exorcist can be hired from pretty much any video shop in england these days and they're talking about making sell-through copies available next year. you can buy copies of the evil dead anywhere, albeit the version with a few cuts. a clockwork orange is slightly different in that it wasn't banned but stanley kubrik himself withdrew permission for it to be shown or distributed in england (a lot to do with his family getting death threats when it was shown). there's talk of it being made available again now that he's dead. besides, french ports sell PAL copies of it and i've seen it broadcast on satellite tv in german. the bbfc has become a lot less rigid in the last year of so. the bloke in charge (furman?) retired and, even as part of his leaving speach, spoke out against the rigidity of the system they had to work within. last week, i believe, a french film ('romance') showing an erect penis was cleared for distribution, a first for england. speaking of stanley kubrik, the new mogwai single is rather good. mogwai are from scotland. so are belle and sebastian. good eh? (which reminds me, the techno pagan octopus bloke from last night (who'd've been better if he actually had 8 limbs) rhymed 'buddha' (pronounced 'boodah') with 'dude, eh?'. genius.) speaking of erect penises... oh, i'd better not... funny about all the trouble with the Sensations thing in new york. there was trouble in england when it was on here only over the portrait of a serial child killer made out of handprints of children rather than a religious icon painted in dung. i guess we've just as many bugs up our arses, they're just different bugs. sorry about the off-topicness. i'd've tacked this onto the end of last night's (perfectly on-topic) post if i'd've read the doofus' post at the time. could've been worse, i could've told you my 1000 favourite records of the nineteen hundreds. and apologies if tag's already written this post (only more eloquently) but i'm a digestive. andy ===== andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Oct 19 10:31:44 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:31:44 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Thai Me Up, Thai Me Down Message-ID: <01bf1a14$c25b61a0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> According to yesterday's paper, everyone in thailand eats their weight in insects every single day, so some insects are now endangered species in the land of the rising ooooOOON. Well, I think that's what it said. Brandt, tell your mum that Sister Disco will be thinking about her when she's having her operation. On second thoughts, perhaps you'd better wait and tell her afterwards. I've been to Merrie England this weekend. I didn't even *see* a record shop, but I did stock up with three pop mags. Shocked to see that Uncut are putting their prices up to finance Robert McTaggart's Curlywurly habit. I'm listening to the free CD now. It's total pish so far. And yes, 20 quid for Tindersticks is bloody expensive, nigh on Bryan Adams prices. I've been trying to think of a good question for Pete Townsend for next month but one's Q magazine Cash for Questions feature. It's got to be a good one, so perhaps we should put our heads together and see what we can come up with. I see Dougal and the Blue Cat has been rerelased on video - Dylan in the Movies. It says somewhere that The Secret Goldfish get help from B&S - I don't think I've seen that discussed at length on the list, but that doesn't mean it hasn't been discussed at length. It might have been discussed at length for all I know. I went past Bull in Slough as well. I think that might be where Andy Dean used to work. The last message from Beepster was called "Sinister adverts" which I thought was quite appropriate. Paul, why don't you set up one of those crappy Amazon "associate member" links from the list site, then at least we'd reap the benefits of our own spam and you could buy that funny Chitty Chitty Bang Bang machine you're after. Trousers, have you been using Mark Casarotto's chat-up lines? Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pixiemeat2 at xxx.com Tue Oct 19 10:44:01 1999 From: pixiemeat2 at xxx.com (Helen) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:44:01 GMT Subject: Sinister: sinister: turn write now Message-ID: <19991019094403.46708.qmail@hotmail.com> Come on give us a try... Degrassi Junior HIGH. (the last word must be sung with an upward lilt loudly for full degrassi effect) After Degrassi High, all the kids at my school thought Canada was *the* coolest place,(and I'm led to believe that it is quite lovely),and used to walk around with ( quite appalling) Canadian accents, although I was chatting to the little brother of a friend the other day and trying to explain what it actually was .He had not a clue. The younger generation will never understand the magic that was Degrassi :) The banned book debate was rather intriguing, the last thing that there was controversy over in Australia was the film 'Sick: The life and death of Bob Flanagan super masochist'. But they still let it through, although one can only see it if one is over 18. Funnily enough there was no controversy over the film "Happiness", which I'm led to believe is slightly 'worse' (in the context of censors,(for lack of a better word)) in content. A laughable incident occured though when a play based on DH Lawrence's 'Lady Chatterly's Lover' came to Perth last year or so, and certain people were using the same arguments for banning the production here as they were when the book was first published. Didn't happen of course, because we don't live in the 19th century or so anymore.... Funny thing censorship, quite an arbitrary pursuit. At least B&S hasn't been in any danger of being censored... (seamless link). That was kind of pointless as I actually have little to none B&S related stuff to say.... ummm....that Tigermilk's a cracking good album ain't it?. Laura Llew wins prizes* for the lovely subject line "like telling e. e. cummings to use caps. Would he listen? No. Little n. Little o" I once wrote an essay on ee cummings and decided to fittingly not use any capitals. However, I realised if I did that then I'd have to not use conventional punctuation, and space rather erratically. Might have been a bit of a mess, perhaps, so I scrapped that idea. Could have started a craze, though I sincerely doubt it. I apologise for a long winded post about little, I will try to be more restrained and lurk for awhile. Helen. *not confirmed ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Tue Oct 19 11:02:55 1999 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:02:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hairs at the back of your mouth Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19991019110255.006a3868@pop-server.cent.gla.ac.uk> Kids, Sister Encyclopedia said: >According to yesterday's paper, everyone in thailand eats their weight >in insects every single day, so some insects are now endangered >species in the land of the rising ooooOOON. Well, I think that's what >it said. And according to Family Fortunes on Saturday, everyone swallows 6 spiders a night. The contestant who relayed this disturbing fact said that she was so worried about this that she taped up her mouth every night before going to sleep. Pity she couldn't have kept the tape on for the recording of the programme. I actually only watched Family Fortunes to see whether it could meet the entertainment value of last weeks show. Alas and alack, 'twasn't to be. >From last week's show....... Les: Name something you's associate with the sea. Thicko 1: A coffin Les: Eh????? Do you mean burial at sea? Thicko 1: No, I meant the letter C (Audience guffaws) Les: Name a type of TV programme Thicko 2: Brookside Les: Eh??? What kind of programme is that? Thicko 2: Duuh, a documentary (Audience are stunned into silence; Les cracks open a bottle of gin) Family no. 1 went home with £72 between them. Hardly worth the humiliation. Talking of humiliation, Friday night was good, wasn't it Glasgow people?? I must wholeheartedly apologise for my behaviour. My drunken nature was solely down to the Pitcher and Piano only serving doubles unless specifically asked for a single measure. I didn't know this until it was too late. When can we do it again??? Lots of love Sheeny xx PS Next time, I insist you remove any fags that make their way to my mouth. It's not big and it's certainly not clever. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Tue Oct 19 11:44:57 1999 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 03:44:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: oh, the new looper song was called 'all of these things' Message-ID: <19991019104457.6413.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> "these things almost make me smile..." nice heavy bass but otherwise more of the same. nice video, shots of the tour in america, the band sitting on stools in the street, the sound man dancing around in circles, shots of LA and new york and The Chicago Loop. "all of the things we use and we need will break down or fall obsolete" andy ===== andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Oct 19 12:30:27 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:30:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Curry in my fingernails Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22A2DE24@SERVER1> For what it's worth, I saw The Exorcist in the cinema 9 months ago and laughed my tiny nose off! When I wasn't cowering behind Miss V, anyway. The Omen I and III are better for thrillz. We even have legal hardcore pornography over here. Andy D and David G pointed out the precedent setters, but the BBFC gave 18 certificates to 2 dirty vids last year, both of which had lots of penetration on full view. No up the bum sex, though, buggery fans (and there seem to be a lot of you on this list), or, ahem, money shots. Or close-ups, apparently, though that seems a bit stable door minus horse. Wonder what the fundamentalists would say about that :-) Clockwork Orange is banned, and a bloody good thing too, as it's one of the most astonishingly bad things I've ever seen in my life. Jesus. Peter Miller referred to my chat-up lines. This is possibly the biggest compliment I've ever had. If you'd like a copy of my chat-up lines (well, line), it's available *somewhere* in the archives. If it's the one I think he's referring to :-) How do I get my boss to take me with her to Vancouver? She's decided she needs to go and what would make more sense than taking a tour guide along? Why, my 2 weeks there in the summer of '95 would certainly come in invaluable - I could show her Kitsilano (sp?) Beach and that island place where they make beer. I could show her snakes on Bowen Island and skunks bumbling down Davie Street. Oh, what a lovely town... Still, Toronto next year will probably have to be my entire Canadian fix. Canada in Spring - I think I feel a song coming on... Now, that'll do Casarotto Mxxx ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 0171 224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From meepmeepmeepmeep at xxx.com Tue Oct 19 14:11:56 1999 From: meepmeepmeepmeep at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mr=20Beaker?=) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Fwd: message from archel Message-ID: <19991019131156.3473.rocketmail@web1406.mail.yahoo.com> Sorry 'bout the delay. I've been in hiding for days due to the fact I've obtained myself a kojak style haircut. Beaker. --- Archel1978 at aol.com wrote: > From: Archel1978 at xxx.com > Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:09:53 EDT > Subject: message from archel > To: meepmeepmeepmeep at yahoo.com > > adrian, please forward this to sinister, there's a > dear. luv archel x > > ****************************************************************************** > ************** > hello sinister. yes, i'm afraid i have temporarily > deserted you, seduced by > the evil corporate power that is Poetry. well, kind > of. trousers very > kindly obtained some work for me at the poetry > society, and i am now in the > unique position of being able to tell you all what > he keeps on his desk. but > i'm not going to. however, i can reveal that his > media activity was not > restricted to the exalted pages of the independent, > but extended to giving an > interview on wiltshire local radio with someone > called semen (sp?). kept > that one quiet, didn't he? > > my (digested) contribution to the pop/poetry debate: > 1) pop lyrics can be > poetic, but they can still work as pop if they're > not. 2) pop and poetry are > not unrelated, but should not be judged on exactly > the same criteria. 3) > when the nation voted they were not voting for the > most *poetic* song lyric, > they were voting for the best one, whatever that > means. 4) as it was > national *poetry* day, this may have caused > confusion, and lots of people to > have arguments. > > i don't know how many of you read the daily express > (2?) but in my new > glamorous role at the posoc (ie. while i was filing > press clippings) i came > across a nice piece about national poetry day which > quoted and pictured > stuart david. i can't remember what he said now > though. perhaps i should > leave the task of bringing the world's media to the > attention of sinister in > nick dastoor's capable hands. > > oh, and i filed an entry to the national poetry > competition by one tim > hopkins yesterday. see, underneath that > foul-mouthed exterior lurks a poet's > heart. i think he should give it back, don't you? > > missing you all, > > luv archel xxx > > ps: i've just had some very... interesting photos > developed. they feature a > shopping trolley, a mirror ball and several > sinisterines......... watch this > space. > > hearts and flowers to: archel at iname.com > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Tue Oct 19 14:09:55 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:09:55 -0400 (EWT) Subject: Sinister: (S)he's losing it. Message-ID: Or more precise to the point, I am losing it. Yesterday I felt like the coolest kid on my block (which is not saying much) because I got my belle and sebastian isobel and fox shirt and pins for my jackets in the post. Then I felt like the luckiest kid on my block because the New York Giants won and I won our office pool for the second time in 4 weeks (and one week I didn't play!). And then I went to sleep because I knew that my mum would have her surgery the next morning and come home and everything would be cool. Then I woke up. Now those of you who have been kind enough to read my melodramatic postings to this list know that I have a lot of pent up frustration and rage. Some of it relates to my mom's illness, some to elements of my personal life. And it keeps building. And I keep trying to vent. Unfortunately, that is tough to do when you have few friends and having just moved back to cleveland in August, I really haven't had the time or opportunity to meet people. Unfortunately this didn't make much of a difference yesterday after work when I felt like i needed to be held by someone for a whole day. But that doesn't even close to what this morning was like. First thing I found that the puppy had chewed up a Microsoft Office 2000 installation disc. Then I went down into the laundry room to find that someone had pulled my wet clothes out of the wash and threw them in a laundry basket--someone who doesn't live in my house. They were there because my mom's house is also her store, but that doesn't give them leave to not observe laundry ettiquette, especially when the laundry ISN'T IN THEIR HOUSE. Then to top things off, the puppy didn't have to go out because she shit all over the floor (she's old enough to know better, she's almost a year old.) So as it stands, I'm about to go spare. I really don't know what to do. I'm trying my hardest to concentrate on other things, but it's a lot easier to be pissed off now isn't it? I'm so flustered I have no idea how to end this post, so I guess I'll do it now. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zvoruna at xxx.com Tue Oct 19 16:43:02 1999 From: zvoruna at xxx.com (ZvoRunA) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 9:43:2 -0600 Subject: Sinister: The Kids of Degrassi Street Message-ID: <2744619991021914432968@starmail.com> One summer two years ago I worked with a girl Martha Copestake whose dad was the soundman on Degrassi. Joey Jeremiah was her babysitter!!! She told me that he had a crush on her but she wasn't interested, probably because she was 10. I was shocked to learn from her that Degrassi was a cool show everywhere BUT Toronto (is this true??). She was really embarrassed that her dad worked there. FYI There is a website dedicated to the Legacy of Degrassi: http://www.degrassi-junior-high.org/ and yes there are even Degrassi conventions. I think the Zit Remedy was my favourite band back then aside from Duran Duran. Even though they only had one song... ok they only had two lines of one song. But it was enough for me. Everybody wants something they'll never give up... Everybody wants something they'll take your money and never give up.. Words to live by. Belle and Sebastian could've learned a few lessons from the Zit Remedy. Like how to never get famous. z- _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Tue Oct 19 18:08:47 1999 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:08:47 PDT Subject: Sinister: No money,no nothing! Message-ID: <19991019170848.92514.qmail@hotmail.com> As in no Gomez gig! Hello my fellow listees.Today I relised that I'm broke,skint.I have been trying for three weeks to open a bank account and they won't open me one.But the thing is I actually don't care.I'm in too good a mood to be annoyed by something like that.Anyway,as for the banning issue;I've seen Clockwork Orange,which is a brilliant film and I honestly don't see a reason for it to be a problem,and the Catcher in the Rye is one of my favorite books.It's one of the best books along with On the road and the Howl.We had to write an essay for it back at school.So what is the problem with it? Brandt,I hope your mom gets well soon.Best wishes,mate! Is there going to be a B&S concert anywhere near Wolverhampton or Birmingham in the near future?Do let me know,pleeeeeeeeeaseeeeee!!! Cheers!Zoexxx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Tue Oct 19 18:33:37 1999 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:33:37 GMT Subject: Sinister: Must we fling this filth at our pop kids? Message-ID: <380ca47a.309132@post.demon.co.uk> You lot, The mail you are about to read contains sexual swearwords. It will almost certainly have an adult theme. It's also extremely off-topic, but I can't resist a discussion about film censorship, one of my pet subjects. Hopefully, some of you will find it interesting. Andy Dean, the original White man in Hammersmith Palais, wrote: >and apologies if tag's already written this post (only more eloquently) but i'm a digestive. I hadn't, but I will now. Censorship has shown signs of slackening in the UK recently, as the new president of the British Board of Film Censors seems to have taken the revolutionary step of crediting filmgoers with some intelligence. This has meant that a few horror films have finally been available on video e.g. "The Exorcist" which has been shown late night at some cinemas for many years, and was still playing to packed houses until its eventual video release. Infamous flicks such as "Driller Killer" and "Texas Chainsaw Massacre", withdrawn after the big "video nasties" furore of the early 80's (when the number of nasties you'd seen was a mark of how hard you were at school and we played Splatter Top Trumps at morning break) have also been re-released. It's been recognised that they aren't nearly as gratuitous as they were painted, and their reputations were mostly the result of hype (nothing like controversy for packing them in). I was surprised to find "Texas Chainsaw" isn't the gorefest I'd been led to believe, but is in fact some kind of masterpiece. That doesn't mean I'm in any hurry to see it again, its horror is almost entirely psychological and a lot more disturbing for it. And yes, it's well-publicised that it was Kubrick himself that withdrew "A Clockwork Orange" from the UK, but sadly, not because it was an overrated load of pretentious toss, but because of a handful of copycat acts of violence, almost certainly exaggerated. Censorship can be counter-productive, as was the case when the Argentinian censors removed the notorious nude wrestling scene from "Women in Love". As a result, Argentinian viewers got to see Oliver Reed and the other bloke (whose name escapes me) collapsed, naked and exhausted after an unspecified type of frantic physical activity, and now, quite understandably, talk affectionately of "the buggary scene". Helen wrote: >The banned book debate was rather intriguing, the last thing that there was >controversy over in Australia was the film 'Sick: The life and death of Bob >Flanagan super masochist'.. That little charmer was actually shown on Channel 4 in the UK, admittedly extensively edited. When I saw it at the BFI, it broke all records for the number of men crossing their legs in unison. >Funnily enough there was no controversy over >the film "Happiness", which I'm led to believe is slightly 'worse' (in the >context of censors,(for lack of a better word)) in content. That's not strictly true, "Happiness" didn't show a naked man trussed up like a Christmas turkey or hammering nails into his gentleman's excuse me. And while it certainly dealt with some taboo subjects, these were either dealt with off-screen or merely talked about. That didn't stop it from being extremely unsettling. I liked it though, if "like" is the right word. David pontificated: >still off topic, but if you are going to point out where someone is wrong, i >should too. Blimey, that told you, Andy. >Romance does indeed show an erect penis, as well as penetration, but neither >of these are firsts for the BBFC. La Vie de Jesus showed penetration, and >The Idiots showed both an erect penis and penetration. As did Sitcom (well, >the erect penis anyway). There may be more. There are. Contemporary cinema is positively littered with instances of rampant tackle. Derek Jarman got one past the censors in "Sebastiane" by shooting the offending article at the edge of widescreen, and letting the BBFC see a version in a different format so that the meat and two veg wasn't visible, the subversive little scamp. The fuss about "real shagging" in "Romance" is nothing new either, we've already had "Ai No Corrida", finally shown at UK cinemas 20 years after it was made. Like "Romance", it's rude, and not very good. "Romance" really does seem like the ultimate in porn dressed as art, and the fact it's directed by a woman doesn't really change that. It did spark one of those perennial "did they/didn't they?" debates though, because the man in it said they did, whereas the actress says they didn't. This sort of gossip crops up a lot, it happened with "Betty Blue", it happened with "Don't look now", and it happened with the "Dog on wheels" video. As far as I know Sam Peckinpah's "Straw Dogs" is still banned in the UK, and is likely to remain so. Unfortunately, although it's a very powerful and well-made film, it does suffer from some very dubious notions about women. My Mum liked it though. The Brits certainly aren't the only ones to wave the censorship scissors around..."The Last Temptation of Christ" is banned in Greece. Several countries won't let Pasolini's "Salo" anywhere near a public cinema. And anyone who's been been glued to "The hip-hop years" in recent weeks will know that Brandt's comments about the American "moral" "majority" and their motivations weren't exactly without foundation. Here in Britain, we've got our own army of "outraged of Surbiton"s, most of them writing for the Daily Mail, who'd dearly love to see the likes of "Crash" kept off-screen (there were even a few local councils who tried to put the mockers on "Crash", thus denying residents a remarkable piece of unintentional comedy), but generally I tend to think that the BBFC have ignored such kneejerk reactions, and got the balance right. Worryingly, that Jordan Knight single is freely available to minors, despite the ex-New Kid pin-up clearly proclaiming "Anyone can make you sweat, but I can keep you wet". I mean...really. Won't somebody think of the children? Worst of all, I was shocked to read that Trousers is *still* allowed out after dark, and regularly attends gatherings where young ladies may be present. Ban this filth. Love, Tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Tue Oct 19 19:48:32 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:48:32 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I Fought The Lure Message-ID: <199910191448_MC2-899A-8199@compuserve.com> Hi Kidz, Mostly I try to avoid buying new releases from old bands, but found that I couldn't leave the local Our Price for ages recently, due to listening to that Clash Live album. So I've got one too, now. Distance lends clarity to the view or something, coz what appeared so radical then now seems to just sit neatly on the same timeline as the Stones & Dylan. Rock on! Automobile head-banging in a Mike Myers stylee may shortly be observed on the A12. All Of These Things about the new beefed-up Looper MeagreStore gig seem to have been said already, but it is perhaps worth mentioning that the crowd shouted for Tim Hopkins, but just got that Pagan Cephalopod dude instead. I attempted to catch him, to try out the "Hi Mr Messiah, or can I call you Techno?" thing on him but he floated away too quickly. S. Troussé seems to have stood up to his exposure to DTP SO much better. And I'm dead jealous of the girl who had her hand in Trousers'. Other celebrities present: David Gedge & Sally, (or did they slip away before Looper?) & Dr Faustus. Sad git that I am, I stayed to get stuff signed by the band, who were extremely pleasant. Thanks, chaps, you were definitely worth nearly getting a stroke for after sprinting up the escalators & stairs at Liverpool Street to (just) make the last train.# Nalda Said review - pretty intriguing, but have only had time to read the first couple of chapters so far. I read more slowly in a Scottish accent. Get the Mogwai ep David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Tue Oct 19 20:05:02 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:05:02 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Dumbstruck! Message-ID: <199910191505_MC2-89A1-8AAE@compuserve.com> Sorry. I should save this for next time, but can't. Mouth opening & closing, noise of pins crashing to the ground. Gazing in awe at picture of veiled Exotic Madame hanging around ouside a Gents in Bangkok. David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From meepmeepmeepmeep at xxx.com Tue Oct 19 21:26:34 1999 From: meepmeepmeepmeep at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mr=20Beaker?=) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:26:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Thelongestwordinthedictionary Message-ID: <19991019202634.26381.rocketmail@web1401.mail.yahoo.com> Tim Hopkins kindly shared with us : >44-24-40 >Nice statistics, I think. Don't you? I'd be inclined to agree Tim if the the "40" wasn't reference to your shoe size. You know what they say about people with big feet...that's why I cut me toes off at age 14..You can but hope eh? I'm only disappointed I read digests as often as I went to school, otherwise I would have walked your insulting competition hands down. You ask Miller. It took Peter to inform me that perhaps being a Scottish band that a lot of people on the list might actually be Scots before labelling the entire country a bunch of Tenants Extra swilling ****s. Robert McStrawberryblonde enquired : >Oh yes, the Ambrosia ad. Is that Tim Hopkins riding a >moo-cow from London to his native Devon? And is that >Andy Dean and Steady Mike disguised as the Village >People in the background? And do Tim's >fellow Devonians, Adrian Evans and Piezo Erotic Unit, >really "like it with their oats on top"? I think they >do. WE DON'T TORK LOIK THART ROUND 'ERE THEM CONDISENDIN' GITS - THEY'M BARKIN' UP THE RONG TWATTIN TREEHORSEBARNTRAKKTER. I like it with anything on top - you can't be choosy when you've got size 14 feet and a head like Yul Brunners. And then as if by magic.... >I am now the proud owner of my very own Pissing Boy, >courtesy of Madame Oon and her exotic palace of soul. >Thank you very much, Madame Oon, bathtime is even more >fun than usual, even though Pissing Boy's, shall we >say,"Yul Bryner" is giving me an inferiority complex. Oon ? Ooooon ? OOOOOOON ? I want a pissing boy - show me where you bought it please. SNOT FAIR. So Peter Miller's met Barry Sheene....not bad, but I still think you've got some work to do to better Gus Honeybun or the entire 1983 Arsenal football team bollock naked in the Highbury baths after training. I think we should have a compy to see how many of us can be one of those annoying twats who get on camera behind reporters on the six o'clock news. As proof you must wear a self designed t-shirt emblazened with the words "GUS HONEYBUN - WORLD TOUR 1976". I'm sure I had something important to say - nope, I'm mistaking you all for someone who actually gives a fuck. Sleep Tight, Beaker. PS Love Slinky Fubs cottaging tales - Cottaging is what makes the world go round...and makes the cubicle walls slightly brown. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk Tue Oct 19 21:56:01 1999 From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (sweetie) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:56:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: looper Message-ID: <007001bf1a76$51bf0700$5353883e@anne666theasylum> when r looper going to one of the virgins in glasgow? and what one will it be? icq# 44244252 ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Life isn't a rehearsal, it's for real. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hopkinstim at xxx.com Wed Oct 20 00:11:35 1999 From: hopkinstim at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Hopkins?=) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Winners, losers, loopers and stuff Message-ID: <19991019231135.1791.rocketmail@web1005.mail.yahoo.com> Hello people, Well the results of the profanathon have been counted, skewed, laughed at and hopelessly twisted. Peter Snow was round our house last night desperate to undertake a graphically-based statistical analysis of the projected and real results, but I told him to get lost. It was late and anyway I had a nice cup of tea to drink. I am going to tell you the names of the winners but not give you the full horror of their entries because, frankly, I'm embarrassed to. You people are disgusting. Vile. Twisted. Perverted. First some disqualifications. David Moore Chelmsford UK is disqualified for purchasing two copies of Nalda Said last night. Fluffy Sarah is disqualified for having won Vic Godard's guitar the other day, which is quite enough winning for any lifetime. Peter Miller has already won a copy, albeit while he was masquerading as Honey's father. Stevie Trousers is disqualified on the grounds that him winning might look like nepotism. Honourable mentions and near misses to Paula Cullen for the revolting earwax reference, to Rob Halcrow, to Matthew Dogbert and to Cynthia Someone. I couldn't award the prize to Merci Buckets, Baby Chris and Daniel Hooper, because their entries scared me too much to make me laugh. And so it falls to me to award the much coveted prizes to: 1. Mister Carsmile Steven Hewitt, with a special mention for Jisobel Campbell and Stuart Merde-och. 2. Rich, AKA Which, for usine the sort of rhyming slang which would appeal to a Mockney like me. 3. Paula Cullen for a genuinely revolting tirade. Honey will be in touch about the claimimg of your booty. Yes indeed. Congrats to the winners and commiserations to the others. Bless you all. I also very nearly awarded a copy to Joss Moorkens for writing a whole short story of such spectacular filth that it doesn't bear repetition. He earned my respect for flagrantly ignoring the rules and going for the out and out offence angle. Paula, will you lend your copy to Professor Joss, please, because I think he deserves it. Now, on to the burning issues of the day. To whit: Pooper and censorship. In reverse order: CENSORSHIP I suggest that we combine the two most important list issues of recent weeks and compile a TOP TEN LIST of things that should be censored. If this works I will sugest we compile a TOP TEN LIST of erect penises in film. I myself am a firm believer in censorship, refusing to let 4AD Records t-shirts in my house. Tell the truth, I keep a little 'secret museum' of photographs of 4AD t-shirts under my bed, with which to frighten myself and someties visitors to the house. But I would never show them to children, dogs, the lower social orders or the womenfolk. No-one knows what damage might be done. Peter Miller asked for appropriate questions for Pete Townshend. How about "why don't you retire, bignose?" or "next time you play live, how about providing your audience with a soundproof box?" LOOPER This week's compulsive mailer Deeeno said: > It was OK, spoiled by the hippy Andy is overly generous. Looper were poor to the point of being rubbish, a fare of stodge leavened by 'Impossible Things' and one more good one, the name of which I forget. The more melodic end of their output is tolerable if rather out-takey, while the dancier stuff just sounds pathetic and weak. Someone was right on the money when he said that 'Who's afraid of Y2K' sounds like Jesus Jones. Except (and I am truly sorry to say this, in full knowledge of the gravity of what I'm saying) Jesus Jones's lyrics were better. However, Looper looked like all-conquering genius by comparison to the Khaki Necromancing Octopus Buddha, a self-congratulatory, ranting hippy whose drugs experience was, like, so, like, enlightening, maaan, that he had to, like, come and bellow at us about it. Yes indeed folks, more boring tripe about the pineal gland. I might see if I can have my pineal gland removed if that is what it does to you. His third eye was as wide as the sky, apparently. I dedicate 'Spit In The Sky' by Lee Perry to him. The only thing that dragged the evening away from intolerable shiteness was the fine company. Hello chaps. Looper were so late taking the stage that the quality of their fare needed to be damned good to make up for it. It wasn't, and neither was Stuart David's ungracious, mumbling apology. I wish I'd trusted my instincts and left before they came on. OOH! CENSORSHIP AGAIN! I wrote: >4AD t-shirts are banned from my house Wrong again, me, I am afraid. Not two weeks ago there was *more than one* 4AD shirt in the house at the same time. What's more, you invited Steady Mike round the other day while he had a Wolfgang Press shirt on. Didn't I? And what about Trousers's collection of early Bauhaus shirts? Eh? EH? Rachel, if you think I have a foul mouth, you should see the rest of me. Perhaps not, actually. That's all for now. Peace and love, children Tim ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Wed Oct 20 01:01:26 1999 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:01:26 -0400 Subject: Sinister: hack hack, wheeze wheeze Message-ID: belle and sebastian content: i walked in to the student store today and heard tigermilk playing. i go to buy cough drops and ask the girl behind the counter who chose the music. she says "it's belle and sebastian." i say "i'm well aware of that. i was asking who chose it." she gave me a blank stare and asked me for 75 cents for the cough drops. i gave her a dollar, she gave me a quarter. i left. so any potential romance between that boy seth and i has popped, fizzed, and died a horrible death since friday night when we kissed etc. he kind of blew me off on saturday, but i'm still not sure if it's in response to me abruptly leaving him earlier that night. he left first, tho. i just decided not to stay and went home. when i saw him later he asked me where i'd gone. i told him home. he spent the rest of the night avoiding me and flirting with some girl. and staring at me while i was dancing. so i don't know what all that means. tho i'm sick of dealing with it, so he has to make a move this time. i'm not putting myself out like that again. and he gave me a wicked nasty chest cold. that's why i'm hacking and wheezing like that. i had an oral exam today and my throat hurt so much i could barely get the words out, so there i was sucking on ricola and gesturing wildly as my professor asks me about cadherins sea urchin gastrulation. hope i didn't fail. i bought a new cordless phone. it looks like a grape imac. it's faux imac, of course. but it's awfully silent. so the braver of you may feel free to call me. (413)559-4850. that's a US phone number, btw. so i was a bit sad about seth for, um, about a day. then i realized it sucked that nothing really happened, but it wasn't like i was head over heels in love with the guy. now i'm just focusing on damage control so when our mutual friend comes back this spring things aren't weird. i still haven't decided if i'm going to tell her what happened between me and seth. maybe i will if something more happens. since it probably won't, i'll stop worrying about it. but that's enough of that. i'm sad to admit i haven't been reading all your posts very thoroughly lately -- i've been drinking heavily. a friend of mine had some very good news yesterday (he is indeed going to graduate this december) so he bought three bottles of champagne and i drank pretty much all of them. starting at 4pm and ending at somewhere around 11pm. so i didn't do much other than sit around and giggle all night. which is part of why my throat hurts so much now. that and the coughing fits i was having last night when i was trying to sleep. i kept drifting, and just before sleep came, i'd sit bolt upright and cough until my eyes started watering. feels like my lungs are full of elmer's glue. well, i guess they sort of are, seeing how gluey mucus is and all. and now my head hurts and i think i may be about to pass out, and since i need to finish my grant proposal tonight, i'll shut up now. if you've read this far, that's really nice. thank you. -kerry "this blue's a swirling ocean / the green, the ambition / the red is the guilt. / there's a lot of red." -tindersticks, "patchwork" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcan at xxx.edu Wed Oct 20 03:57:46 1999 From: marcan at xxx.edu (Nick Marcantonio) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:57:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: A newbie emmerges... Message-ID: Hello list- My name is Nick and I'm new to the list (well, a nursery hatchling). I'm 19, and a junior at Boston University where I major in Computer Science and maybe math too. I'm originaly from CT, where the amount of B&S fans (to my knowledge) is next to nothing, and the ones I know of are people I've forced into listening to them. I play bass during my free time, which is rare, in a few local bands of various genres. I got into Belle & Sebastian a few years ago from a friend of mine. He'd play Sinister whenever I was over and I fell in love. I quickly got as many B&S records as possible, and, last year, I had the privilege of seeing them at BU's Morse Auditorium. Twas one of the best concerts I've ever attended. And now that my old laptop is about to crash, I'll send this before I have to re-type it. A quick hello to the girls from Toronto and Motreal I met at the Montreal Belle & Sebastian picnic/gathering this past May. Feel free to e-mail me privately anytime. -Nick +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mhintz at xxx.edu Wed Oct 20 04:42:44 1999 From: mhintz at xxx.edu (Matthew Hintz) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:42:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: from the squirrels Message-ID: I came home to find an acorn thrown through my front window. I typed up the attached note since I thought it might be of interest to this list. xo Matthew ---------------- This note is from the squirrels. We have yr Isobel. We thought you loved her more. The fuzz investigation has been ended with the case being put in the 'Sod It' pile. We know this since we have our sources. We had planned to return Isobel for a pint and an apology for misrepresenting forest life. Every day that our demands were not met we planned to bury her the length of the exposed skin of her pedal pushers. After we buried her like a big nut for the winter, we decided to find a better use for her. Now she stands in the forest since her ankles provide a perfect tree climbing practice regimen for the young squirrel recruits. We might consider returning her for _two_ pints. We know we are running a hard bargain for your favorite Isobel, but perhaps that should have been considered before messing with us. If you want to find us, look in every tree above your head. --------------------------- Stolen Kisses http://stolenkisses.tripod.com 'We are reasonably young.' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ian.Halliday at xxx.nz Wed Oct 20 04:56:57 1999 From: Ian.Halliday at xxx.nz (Halliday, Ian) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:56:57 +1300 Subject: Sinister: TheSwordisMighterThanThePenis Message-ID: Well, after a break I suppose it's time to post again. Once again, a wide-ranging rant with only minimal B&S content. My wife and my children adored the Harry Potter books, though I wasn't very taken with them. However, I'm well aware that there are people who are trying to censor many books, often with weird results. Quite why "The Lion, The Witch And The Wardrobe" should meet the wrath of such people is beyond me, seeing as it is written by a highly regarded Christian author. Maybe most of the people who read it don't know that. Probably like the South African censors who later discovered that "Black Beauty" was actually about a horse. Why was there such a to-do when "The Lord Of The Rings" was voted the top book? Claims were made in the popular and not-so-popular press that academics were horrified that such a thing should come out at the top of the pile, yet so many people in all walks of life seem to have spoken highly of it for longer than I can remember. When was "Ai No Corrida" released? I remember seeing it in a cinema in Britain way back in 1979 or possibly early 1980, along with Warhol's "Chelsea Girls". As I walked out of "Chelsea Girls", the doorman was saying to the latecomers "There's plenty of room in there - look at all these people leaving space for you". "Ai No Corrida" was fun, with subtitles having peeping schoolchildren saying things like "They do this every morning and then he goes off to the market". What fun! While I'm here, may I take this opportunity to say that I don't like it when people use the sinister mailing list to send me stuff claiming that Mr Gates is going to send me an enormous cheque just for forwarding his email. I'm sick and tired of this sort of stuff and regularly point people to the urban legend debunking site at http://www.snopes.com/ which is one of the best sites anywhere on the web (except for you of course Honey). Does Honey take his name from Miss Honey in "Matilda", another film that they have tried to ban? By the way, I checked, and apparently there isn't a chokey at my children's school, but there probably is at a nearby one. It's still a mystery to me as to how it is that I bought IFYS and Tigermilk simply because I stumbled across this website created by a friend from high school, whose other mailing list has also recently contained exhortations to visit and click at http://www.thehungersite.com/ which brings me to my next point. By clicking at The Hunger Site, you cost each of the corporate sponsors half a cent, resulting in a tiny donation to the overall state of the world, but an enormous amount of publicity to the corporate sponsors. This reminds me of a financial institution in Britain which launched an affinity Visa card many years ago with an enormous advertising campaign through newspapers and television stating that for each new application they would pay GBP 5 to a particular charity, along with GBP 0.25 for every GBP 100 spent on the card. Calculations suggest that the amount the advertising campaign cost was equivalent to about half a million people signing up and spending GBP 5000 each. In a similar way, you may care to consider how much it has cost you (those who pay for phone calls or for internet access) to reach that site and click the button. The cynical claim that you are giving to charity by visiting this site is an insult by the sponsors and administrators of this web site to all those who they are claiming to help. Finally, for the correspondent who is looking for francophone musicians, he could do no better than to listen to Jacques Brel. "Je veux qu'on rie, je veux qu'on danse, je veux qu'on s'amuse comme des fous". They probably tried to ban his music too: after all, he sang about death and criticised the church. Regards, Ian Ian W Halliday --- People Who Feel Good About Themselves Produce Good Results This communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you have received it by mistake you must not use, disclose, copy or retain it. Please immediately notify us by return email and then delete the emails. Views expressed in this communication may not be those of The National Bank of New Zealand Limited. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tigermilk1 at xxx.com Wed Oct 20 22:17:24 1999 From: tigermilk1 at xxx.com (Elizabeth Arnott) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:17:24 EST Subject: Sinister: Must we fling this filth at our pop kids? Message-ID: <19991020061731.53873.qmail@hotmail.com> Hmmm... film censorship! Well there are some films that shouldn't be out there of course... say those ones where innocent people are murdered on screeen for a deviants sexual pleasure... it does happen... However some films should be out there just to open peoples eyes to other practices in society that are ignored. I went in saw SICK (I am from australia)... actually i saw 5 minutes of sick as i was so grossed out i had to leave (shouldn't have smoked that pot before i went in there)! However my boyfrined and his two friends saw the whole film... i was glad i saw a bit of it though... it's better than being naive.... However it wasn't the sadomasochism theme that turned me off but that he had cystic fibrosis. I couldn't stand that he (Bob)was so ill. He had drips in his arms and could barely breath. And the coughing... he was just too human... too real... Who cares if he likes to hammer nails through his dick... perhaps though i was a little creeped out by all the single males dressed inconspicuously in black in the audience... Oh well.. their life their choice, Cheers, Lizzie! >From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) >Reply-To: mctag at bigfoot.com (Robert McTaggart) >To: sinister at Majordomo.net >Subject: Sinister: Must we fling this filth at our pop kids? >Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:33:37 GMT > >You lot, > >The mail you are about to read contains sexual swearwords. It will >almost certainly have an adult theme. It's also extremely off-topic, >but I can't resist a discussion about film censorship, one of my pet >subjects. Hopefully, some of you will find it interesting. > >Andy Dean, the original White man in Hammersmith Palais, wrote: > > >and apologies if tag's already written this post (only more eloquently) >but i'm a digestive. > >I hadn't, but I will now. Censorship has shown signs of slackening in >the UK recently, as the new president of the British Board of Film >Censors seems to have taken the revolutionary step of crediting >filmgoers with some intelligence. This has meant that a few horror >films have finally been available on video e.g. "The Exorcist" which >has been shown late night at some cinemas for many years, and was >still playing to packed houses until its eventual video release. >Infamous flicks such as "Driller Killer" and "Texas Chainsaw >Massacre", withdrawn after the big "video nasties" furore of the early >80's (when the number of nasties you'd seen was a mark of how hard you >were at school and we played Splatter Top Trumps at morning break) >have also been re-released. It's been recognised that they aren't >nearly as gratuitous as they were painted, and their reputations were >mostly the result of hype (nothing like controversy for packing them >in). I was surprised to find "Texas Chainsaw" isn't the gorefest I'd >been led to believe, but is in fact some kind of masterpiece. That >doesn't mean I'm in any hurry to see it again, its horror is almost >entirely psychological and a lot more disturbing for it. And yes, >it's well-publicised that it was Kubrick himself that withdrew "A >Clockwork Orange" from the UK, but sadly, not because it was an >overrated load of pretentious toss, but because of a handful of >copycat acts of violence, almost certainly exaggerated. > >Censorship can be counter-productive, as was the case when the >Argentinian censors removed the notorious nude wrestling scene from >"Women in Love". As a result, Argentinian viewers got to see Oliver >Reed and the other bloke (whose name escapes me) collapsed, naked and >exhausted after an unspecified type of frantic physical activity, and >now, quite understandably, talk affectionately of "the buggary scene". > >Helen wrote: > > >The banned book debate was rather intriguing, the last thing that there >was > >controversy over in Australia was the film 'Sick: The life and death of >Bob > >Flanagan super masochist'.. > >That little charmer was actually shown on Channel 4 in the UK, >admittedly extensively edited. When I saw it at the BFI, it broke all >records for the number of men crossing their legs in unison. > > >Funnily enough there was no controversy over > >the film "Happiness", which I'm led to believe is slightly 'worse' (in >the > >context of censors,(for lack of a better word)) in content. > >That's not strictly true, "Happiness" didn't show a naked man trussed >up like a Christmas turkey or hammering nails into his gentleman's >excuse me. And while it certainly dealt with some taboo subjects, >these were either dealt with off-screen or merely talked about. That >didn't stop it from being extremely unsettling. I liked it though, if >"like" is the right word. > >David pontificated: > > >still off topic, but if you are going to point out where someone is >wrong, i > >should too. > >Blimey, that told you, Andy. > > >Romance does indeed show an erect penis, as well as penetration, but >neither > >of these are firsts for the BBFC. La Vie de Jesus showed penetration, and > >The Idiots showed both an erect penis and penetration. As did Sitcom >(well, > >the erect penis anyway). There may be more. > >There are. Contemporary cinema is positively littered with instances >of rampant tackle. Derek Jarman got one past the censors in >"Sebastiane" by shooting the offending article at the edge of >widescreen, and letting the BBFC see a version in a different format >so that the meat and two veg wasn't visible, the subversive little >scamp. > >The fuss about "real shagging" in "Romance" is nothing new either, >we've already had "Ai No Corrida", finally shown at UK cinemas 20 >years after it was made. Like "Romance", it's rude, and not very >good. "Romance" really does seem like the ultimate in porn dressed as >art, and the fact it's directed by a woman doesn't really change that. >It did spark one of those perennial "did they/didn't they?" debates >though, because the man in it said they did, whereas the actress says >they didn't. This sort of gossip crops up a lot, it happened with >"Betty Blue", it happened with "Don't look now", and it happened with >the "Dog on wheels" video. > >As far as I know Sam Peckinpah's "Straw Dogs" is still banned in the >UK, and is likely to remain so. Unfortunately, although it's a very >powerful and well-made film, it does suffer from some very dubious >notions about women. My Mum liked it though. The Brits certainly >aren't the only ones to wave the censorship scissors around..."The >Last Temptation of Christ" is banned in Greece. Several countries >won't let Pasolini's "Salo" anywhere near a public cinema. And anyone >who's been been glued to "The hip-hop years" in recent weeks will know >that Brandt's comments about the American "moral" "majority" and their >motivations weren't exactly without foundation. Here in Britain, >we've got our own army of "outraged of Surbiton"s, most of them >writing for the Daily Mail, who'd dearly love to see the likes of >"Crash" kept off-screen (there were even a few local councils who >tried to put the mockers on "Crash", thus denying residents a >remarkable piece of unintentional comedy), but generally I tend to >think that the BBFC have ignored such kneejerk reactions, and got the >balance right. > >Worryingly, that Jordan Knight single is freely available to minors, >despite the ex-New Kid pin-up clearly proclaiming "Anyone can make you >sweat, but I can keep you wet". I mean...really. Won't somebody >think of the children? Worst of all, I was shocked to read that >Trousers is *still* allowed out after dark, and regularly attends >gatherings where young ladies may be present. Ban this filth. > >Love, >Tag xx >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tzuckerman at xxx.edu Wed Oct 20 09:19:59 1999 From: tzuckerman at xxx.edu (The Trainspotter ) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 04:19:59 -0400 Subject: Sinister: only slightly mental..... Message-ID: <199910200823.EAA00384@smtp2.erols.com> kids, dont believe a word this boy says.. he plays no bass, and spends his days ridiculing the boy scouts but secretly ogling their uniforms in the hopes that one day he can be head scout with the USO and dance with bob hope with Mary Tyler Moore looking on. Not only that but he tried to get me to send a pervy message to Isobel - all the while dancing around in kiddy zip up pjs he found in my laundry bin. in his spare time he tries setting me up with momus. alas, he is a nice ol boy and clues as to possible whereabouts of a study at stowe t-shirt for his coming up soon birthday should be told how to get one (kerry's birthdays is coming up too.... yay for the girl who is kidnapping her flatmates to some scarynamed place that sounds like dwarfplayland for this occasion). oh and to nick et al., jake was kidnapped by katrina! (yes that e-mail that i wrote was sent to her instead - with a note sent back saying he no longer handled the merchandise - as i could believe such a thing...) who was el boy con b/s in boston who babysat me when i was lost and kerry thought i'd run of with my ex-bf to molest him? and the reason you have problems with your computer is you've been making fun of my new ibook which hates me. and are there any sinister listee love stories like they're are on e-pop? ok, and then i'm going to bed - to roar tommorow when i go to get my car from the place where they take your car cause they feel like it, and go to school for the first time in over a week since they finally found my advisor/chair who had been MIA (yes, kerry can you believe it? joan finally turned up... they said be here by thursday or we cant pass you - and yes i still have an outstanding grr). can we have a boston listee tally? i guess you can e-mail me directly and i can post a final tally or something to see if its worth the while to have a wee tea gathering of sorts or an indoor picnic on my new ikea rug. or perhaps a meet up for whomever is going to see the mag fields next week... though perhaps if they pull another 3 1/2 hour show like last year - i might go barmy on sir meritt. -t.e.r.i. http://come.to/teri "she had the moves, she had the speed, it went to her head" > Hello list- > > My name is Nick and I'm new to the list (well, a nursery > hatchling). I'm 19, and a junior at Boston University where I major in > Computer Science and maybe math too. I'm originaly from CT, where the > amount of B&S fans (to my knowledge) is next to nothing, and the ones I > know of are people I've forced into listening to them. I play bass during > my free time, which is rare, in a few local bands of various genres. I got > into Belle & Sebastian a few years ago from a friend of mine. He'd play > Sinister whenever I was over and I fell in love. I quickly got as many B&S > records as possible, and, last year, I had the privilege of seeing them at > BU's Morse Auditorium. Twas one of the best concerts I've ever attended. > And now that my old laptop is about to crash, I'll send this before I have > to re-type it. A quick hello to the girls from Toronto and Motreal I met > at the Montreal Belle & Sebastian picnic/gathering this past May. Feel > free to e-mail me privately anytime. > > -Nick > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETLRDHY at xxx.se Wed Oct 20 10:48:31 1999 From: ETLRDHY at xxx.se (ETLRDHY at xxx.se) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:48:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: looper by the seaside Message-ID: hello. Is anybody going along to see Looper in Brighton tonight? Does *anybody* know where the 'Sallis Bennie' theatre is supposed to be? Maybe we should meet up? richard +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tjl at xxx.uk Wed Oct 20 10:34:09 1999 From: tjl at xxx.uk (Tim) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:34:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: nice References: <199910191044.EAA17207@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: <01a701bf1ade$a9b77e20$020ae392@tjl> Morning. Cheers muchly to the people who mailed me about Out Of My Hair( Ryhs and Colin). Spent some of Monday afternoon looking around Leicester for their album, but couldn't find it. Looks like a trip to Nottingham I feel. Nice. But the good news was that I found the Speedboat LP, Satellite Girl. First time I've found anything by them in Leicester, so that was a bit of a surprise. Production doesn't seem that great, but it's not bad. On The Run, The Hurtin' Kind and Tidal Wave are rather good, and the rest are growing on me. Anyone got any more information on these? On the subject of things musically, are any of the other Jeepster releases worth looking at. Apart from B&S obviously, I've got Snow Patrol and Looper. What about Gentle Waves, as there seems to be a very mixed opinion on Isobel? Brandt Fundak said > It was not my intention to single out all Christians--my mom and brother > are Christians--just the ones who take it too far. Probably been mentioned before, but it always seems to me that it's more of a problem in the states though, what with TV networks having to be extremely careful what they show incase they offend a couple of people. Wasn't it in Kansas that due to Christian pressure groups the state removed the big bang from subjects to be taught? But then I suppose the UK is just as bad in other respects. Oh well. Censorship. That always reminds me of the Ali G sketch on The Eleven O'Clock Show, where he goes on about punani and flange. Not that I found it amusing or anything. Well, not as amusing as the save the trees campaign, where some woman shouted at him 'Oi you wanker, this is real', and then him saying to the police 'Is it cos me is black?' Right. That'll be me waffling. Sex then. Anyway. Tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tjl at xxx.uk Wed Oct 20 10:34:09 1999 From: tjl at xxx.uk (Tim) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:34:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: nice References: <199910191044.EAA17207@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: <01a701bf1ade$a9b77e20$020ae392@tjl> Morning. Cheers muchly to the people who mailed me about Out Of My Hair( Ryhs and Colin). Spent some of Monday afternoon looking around Leicester for their album, but couldn't find it. Looks like a trip to Nottingham I feel. Nice. But the good news was that I found the Speedboat LP, Satellite Girl. First time I've found anything by them in Leicester, so that was a bit of a surprise. Production doesn't seem that great, but it's not bad. On The Run, The Hurtin' Kind and Tidal Wave are rather good, and the rest are growing on me. Anyone got any more information on these? On the subject of things musically, are any of the other Jeepster releases worth looking at. Apart from B&S obviously, I've got Snow Patrol and Looper. What about Gentle Waves, as there seems to be a very mixed opinion on Isobel? Brandt Fundak said > It was not my intention to single out all Christians--my mom and brother > are Christians--just the ones who take it too far. Probably been mentioned before, but it always seems to me that it's more of a problem in the states though, what with TV networks having to be extremely careful what they show incase they offend a couple of people. Wasn't it in Kansas that due to Christian pressure groups the state removed the big bang from subjects to be taught? But then I suppose the UK is just as bad in other respects. Oh well. Censorship. That always reminds me of the Ali G sketch on The Eleven O'Clock Show, where he goes on about punani and flange. Not that I found it amusing or anything. Well, not as amusing as the save the trees campaign, where some woman shouted at him 'Oi you wanker, this is real', and then him saying to the police 'Is it cos me is black?' Right. That'll be me waffling. Sex then. Anyway. Tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tigermilk1 at xxx.com Thu Oct 21 02:07:47 1999 From: tigermilk1 at xxx.com (Elizabeth Arnott) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 20:07:47 EST Subject: Sinister: nice Message-ID: <19991020100749.18873.qmail@hotmail.com> Gentle Waves... when i first heard it i though that it was quite weak and insipid... but now its kind of grown on me, and weak and insipid has turned to sweet and innocent.. the songs are short and the voice is soft... and the lyrics are quite poeticly lovely too. However i still skip 'tree lullaby', as i find it a bit to tacky and tree hugging... not bad for a first attempt though i still think B&S work better as a team... Cheers, Lizzie! >From: "Tim" >Reply-To: "Tim" >To: >Subject: Sinister: nice >Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:34:09 +0100 > >Morning. > >Cheers muchly to the people who mailed me about Out Of My Hair( Ryhs and >Colin). Spent some of Monday afternoon looking around Leicester for their >album, but couldn't find it. Looks like a trip to Nottingham I feel. Nice. > >But the good news was that I found the Speedboat LP, Satellite Girl. First >time I've found anything by them in Leicester, so that was a bit of a >surprise. Production doesn't seem that great, but it's not bad. On The Run, >The Hurtin' Kind and Tidal Wave are rather good, and the rest are growing >on >me. Anyone got any more information on these? > >On the subject of things musically, are any of the other Jeepster releases >worth looking at. Apart from B&S obviously, I've got Snow Patrol and >Looper. >What about Gentle Waves, as there seems to be a very mixed opinion on >Isobel? > >Brandt Fundak said > > > It was not my intention to single out all Christians--my mom and brother > > are Christians--just the ones who take it too far. > >Probably been mentioned before, but it always seems to me that it's more of >a problem in the states though, what with TV networks having to be >extremely >careful what they show incase they offend a couple of people. Wasn't it in >Kansas that due to Christian pressure groups the state removed the big bang >from subjects to be taught? > >But then I suppose the UK is just as bad in other respects. Oh well. > >Censorship. That always reminds me of the Ali G sketch on The Eleven >O'Clock >Show, where he goes on about punani and flange. Not that I found it amusing >or anything. Well, not as amusing as the save the trees campaign, where >some >woman shouted at him 'Oi you wanker, this is real', and then him saying to >the police 'Is it cos me is black?' > >Right. That'll be me waffling. > >Sex then. > >Anyway. > >Tim > > > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Wed Oct 20 11:19:18 1999 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:19:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'd like to thank my mom, my family but most of all..... Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB6970C389@park_ex> every single one of you (breaks in to theatrical sobbing). Ooh, I haven't won anything for aaaaages (well, except pub quizzes, but you only win boooooze in them). I went through a stage when I was about 17 of winning loads of stuff from competitions in magazines and on the radio. Ah, the halycon days of 1991, probably the last time I could list a top 20 albums of the year. I don't think I could even *name* 20 albums that came out this year, and I know I haven't bought/copied/acquired that many for quite a long time. Maybe if I stopped smoking and drinking......maybe not. Suppose I could cut down on the crack and whores though. What about a top 20 of "things that aren't as good as they used to be in the good old days"? I'm going to buy a pooter for home soon, do any UK listees have any advice/horror stories about particular retailers/brands as the last computer I owned was a 48k Spectrum (with rubber keys). mail my privates. Has anyone else been watching "Tony's People" on Channel 4 (hmm, suppose not, you're prob'ly all out tripping the light fandango at 9.30 on a thursday)? I have never been soooooooo insensed about a programme in my life, i rang Channel 4 and actually complained about it. It's a supposed "docusoap" about my home town/village/area (where Tony Blair is MP) and it's a complete hatchet job. So if you see me on "Right to Reply"in a couple of months you'll know why. why does nobody talk about penises on the lis... oh, they do, silly me :) xoxo CarsmileSteve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Oct 20 11:07:28 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 12:07:28 +0200 Subject: Sinister: 10 Roddington Place Message-ID: <01bf1ae2$eac567c0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> "MOJO" contains the following: "UK acoustic trailblazers include Beth Orton, Ben and Jason, Belle and Sebastian and Ben Christophers.... ....The move does have its detractors, notably DJ and writer Charlie Gillet: "You could see this coming with The Verve's songs. But I worry about some of the new acoustic singers; I find most of them unbearably wimpy."" I think he's calling Stuart Murdoch a puff. I like Bob Flanagan. If you'd managed to stomach the whole film, you would have seen Bob making a lot of cystic fibrosis kids very happy with an amusing cystic fibrosis song in a Bob Dylan stylee. The whole point of the film was that he'd lived a lot longer than he really should have done because he enjoyed inflicting pain on himself so much. I might have got this wrong, it was a long time ago. But props to Bob. I'm proud to have met him, albeit via the miracle of celluloid. That film "Romance" ran for about six weeks here, so they must have done something right. All the pre-release promotion centred around the fact that it was dead arty and made by a woman and so forth, but the poster and press advertisements just said "at last, pornography reaches the cinema screen!". Multi-niche marketing. Apparently the bloke's got a really big cock. Erection fans should check out Pasolini's (?) Arabian Nights film, because you get to see a poor chap with a semi-stiffy after a young lady has been bumping and grinding on top of him while he's supposed to be asleep. It sort of twangs up when she gets off. Censorship: I'm a bit miffed that they keep making Chucky films. I wouldn't censor them, I'd just give everyone involved a bloody good clip round the ear. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From swanarama at xxx.com Wed Oct 20 13:50:36 1999 From: swanarama at xxx.com (Amanda Bergman) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 05:50:36 PDT Subject: Sinister: listeeee luuuurve (and not just yer average list cush) Message-ID: <19991020125037.51027.qmail@hotmail.com> teri inquired: >and are there any sinister listee love stories like they're are on >e-pop? and the answer to that is most definitely yes. take me and steve for example. email progressed to chatting progressed to phone calls progressed to meeting in person progressed to acknowledging smitten-ness. now we're engaged. all the cool kids are doing it. I can think of half a dozen other established couples that have met via this list. i hope belle and sebastian realize what they're doing... here if you need list luuurve advice, Amanda . . .. . .. . .. . . "If someone steals your cab, then it wasn't your cab." --from _Taxi Driver Wisdom_ visit >>Red Roses for Me<< fanzine http://www.redrosesforme.co.uk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Wed Oct 20 13:53:51 1999 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 05:53:51 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Cheese and cucumber Message-ID: Hello folks, Genevieve wanted to know about 60s French pop: The best 60s French pop singers were Jacques Brel (Belgian) and Charles Aznavour (Armenian). Serge Gainsbourg (Russian) was a favourite around here having not only recorded some very fine records of his own, but also having written songs for Francoise Hardy (Belgian), France Gall (Luxembourg), Jane Birkin (English), Johnny Halliday (Swiss) and others (Dutch). Other favourites include Jacques Dutronc (Australian), Jeanne Moreau (Korean), Brigitte Bardot (Alien), and Nana Mouskouri (French). Hope this helps. I've been away for a few weeks. Did I miss anything apart from the sitars and the excessive swearing directed at Tim? Talking of Tim, I spent a week or so in San Francisco, once home to the Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane, and the whole hippy movement, but more notable these days for being home to Sinister Julie Smith, who lurketh too much methinks. We saw the Magnetic Fields while i was there. They're rather good, but Megan has probably told you that. And the new (triple) album is extremely pleasant listening, but the Duke has probably told you that too. I took some books with me to read on the plane, but luckily I managed to keep them concealed for the duration of my stay in America. Otherwise who knows what the angry mobs of Southern baptist preachers that congregate on every corner would have done? As it turned out I didn't read the books anyway - the plane was equipped with a high tech entertainment system featuring Audio Channel 8 which played no less than three different tracks by the John Schroeder Orchestra. This is a good thing, if you were wondering. Not so good was the choice of inflight movies... Austin Powers, The Mummy or Notting Hill. There's never a censor around when you need one is there? Bye, Kevan *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Wed Oct 20 13:56:21 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:56:21 -0400 (EWT) Subject: Sinister: The things I know Message-ID: Is it just me or do others not like the same things they watched as children? I was thinking yesterday how stupid shows like Diffrent Strokes and Dukes of Hazzard are, and yet that I watched them religiously when they were on, and had a disdain for shows like MASH and Taxi, which I think are pretty much brilliant. Not only that, but those old crappy shows make me kind of sick--I can't believe I ever had that sort of aesthetic. I find myself watching "friends" religiously in syndication. And is this just a US thing? I noticed that all news reporters identify themselves as "so and so from ABC News," etc. It's like they are closing a letter or handing out their business card or something. I started reading "Fight Club." Now I may go see the film. My mum's better now. She's coming home today. Thanks for the support. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Wed Oct 20 14:28:08 1999 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 06:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: looper interview, ch4 teletext Message-ID: <19991020132808.12489.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> there was a short interview with looper on ch4 teletext this morning (the planet sound pages which i believe now start at page 450 having moved a week or two ago). er, can't remember a lot about it but here's something. the book publishing deal came from him mentioning it in a review he wrote for the Times, apparently he had a couple of companies write to him with offers after that. he's also written two or three others but nalda was the best. he also started another during the american tour but didn't want to reveal details. he reports that work on the new b&s album is coming along very slowly but that looper album 2 is proceeding nicely. on y2k he revealed that he's been stocking up on tinned food just in case. er that was about it, i think. andy tinned food's all well and good as long as you don't mind eating it cold. i think the major problem will be power or, rather, that power will be the most important thing that could have problems. human nature will prevail though, people will pull together. oh, i re-read the article about 'romance' last night and it was the reviewer's first experience of an erection on screen rather than the first allowed in britain, my mistake. she (like myself) obviously doesn't frequent the same cinemas as tag or david. 8) pete miller: nope, it was bull hemel hempstead that i worked at, not bull in slough although there was talk of me having a job there once i was deemed surplus to requirements in HH. it never happened though (headcount freeze, blah blah blah) i could see tim hopkins every day for a week and scare him with a different 4ad t-shirt every time. oh, ok, not sunday. ===== andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geoff at xxx.uk Wed Oct 20 17:50:27 1999 From: geoff at xxx.uk (geoff) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:50:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: smut In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tell it to me straight, kids... Have I got a dirty mind??? I just read kerry's mail (great aren't they) and there seemed to be numerous references to oral sex. Not that I've got it on the brain, y'understand. >i was sucking on Ricola >he kind of blew me off on saturday >which is part of why my throat hurts so much now >i had an oral today and my throat hurt so much i could barely get the **** out >i'm not putting out like that again. OK I might have edited some of that. geoff "never knowingly underdressed" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Wed Oct 20 18:21:18 1999 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:21:18 -0400 Subject: Sinister: dance of the nubile newbies Message-ID: hello list. i'm still sick, so that means i'm still emailing you glorious people tons of useless crap. i'd like to officially start off this post by thanking geoff for making me feel dirty. now on to bigger and better things. At 3:10 -0400 10/20/99, Teri the tremendous trainspotter wrote: [ alas, he is a nice ol boy and clues as to possible whereabouts of a [ study at stowe t-shirt for his coming up soon birthday should be told how to [ get one (kerry's birthdays is coming up too.... yay for the girl who is [ kidnapping her flatmates to some scarynamed place that sounds like [ dwarfplayland for this occasion). [ first -- don't get me a study at stowe shirt, i've already got one. ;) but if you'd really like to, those colourblind ones or whatever they're called are really neat. second -- it's called kahunaville. for those of you that don't know, kahunaville is an overpriced chuck-e-cheese (or showbiz pizza, depending on your time of reference) for grown ups with a surfer motif. it's still got video games, but i've heard it's also got some of the best damn food you could possibly get from a chain restaurant like that. i think it's around $20 per person, but my parents said they'd pay for me to take all my housemates there for my birthday. so i will. belle and sebastian content: i've interrupted my almost-constant listening of unbelievable truth with a round or two of tigermilk while i finish up my grant proposal (due today, wish me luck and/or the $1500 i need to do my thesis). it's good working music. oh, and if it's smut you want, look no further than the .sig i chose special for this post. and i've noticed that my phone is just as quiet as before i gave out my phone number. so why aren't you people calling me? this time i'm not only inviting the braver of you, but the cowards as well. -kerry "my face is leaving in 15 minutes and you'd better be on it" -title of a too much light makes the baby go blind play +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Oct 20 17:00:34 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:00:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Why must he sound so much like Donovan!? Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22A2DE54@SERVER1> I hope Kerry doesn't think I keep taking the piss, but I have to stifle childish sniggers each time she mentions blowing people off. It probably isn't actually even rude in *this* country, but it pleases me. Tag wrote: a treatise. I hope you all took notes, as he'll be testing us on it today. I saw "Erection", ho ho, "Election" last night. It was quite good, very sharp, admirable etc., but for some reason I didn't enjoy it much. I suppose I wasn't in the mood for such predictably painful humour - after a while it did just keep coming atcha. Should have seen that shark film instead. It did, however, rub in the Struan/Donovan ("Jennifer Juniper") comparisons. I never realised how shameless our ruddy-coiffed songstrel was... So, a poor day at work, but compared to some people's trials it's negligible. All the best to your mum, Brandt :-) The next Tigermilking is still in early planning stages, but what with bigger, brasher and better clubs popping up all around, if anyone has any suggestions how to make it fizz and P!O!P! with the best of 'em, please mail me privately. In the meantime, pencil in Friday 3rd December... A short one from the little blonde one. Nothing new there, then :-( :-) Markx ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 0171 224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. This e mail has been checked by our anti-virus system before leaving us; we accept no responsibility for the e mail and any attachments once they leave us. www.hitentertainment.com ******************************************************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From craigrm at xxx.uk Wed Oct 20 19:54:16 1999 From: craigrm at xxx.uk (Craig) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:54:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Damn that Jack Frost ! Message-ID: <007101bf1b2c$8540f140$eae793c3@orlando1> Congratulations to all the lucky "Insult Tim Hopkins" prize winners. Many would say that being invited to insult young Tim is a reward in itself, but I hope you all enjoy your hard won booty (in the UK meaning of the word - but please feel free to partake in US booty as well). It fills me with a sense of enormous wellbeing to be part of such a foul mouthed collective. Will the prize winning and/or most filthy entries ever be released to the general public ?. I hope so but I'd imagine the temptation to keep them hush-hush and slowly work them into day to day conversation must be great, in which case the next person to knock the Hopkins' pint is in for an aural treat of no small measure. I got handed an extensive Health & Safety manual at work today. Most of it was quite reasonable but at times it did get a little weird. Under the "Safety with Office Products" section there was some advice on how to avoid papercuts*, apparently it's wise to "avoid running your fingers along the edge of pages" and "don't hold paper to close to your face". I feel the world's a much safer place now, other handy hints warned of the dangers of falling off your chair and how to avoid walking into things such as doors and other people.... the key to this is keeping your speed down and not reading and walking at the same time. I suspect the manual was written by the same person who felt it necessary to include the instructions "Open Packet, Eat Contents" on packets of airline peanuts. Also today saw the official launch of my new game "Star's on Your Tube". It's very much like "Stars in Their Eyes" except it takes place on public transport and there's no singing involved, thus avoiding messy copyright lawsuits. In fact the only qualifying criteria is that the (unwitting) contestants must vaguely look like someone well known. It probably says a lot about my state of mind first thing in the morning but in today's heats "MP Robin Cook" and "Annie Lennox" were narrowly beaten by "The old swimming bloke off the Guinness adverts". I guess you had to be there. Did anyone else see the "Milli Vanilli: Behind the Music" program on VH1 a few days ago ?. It was great and they both came across as being decent people who got sucked in by a manipulative manger, they even tried to quit and do their own songs on a few occasions. From a purely voyeuristic point of view the highlight was undoubtedly footage of that faithful concert where their backing tape skipped and they were exposed as frauds, to be fair the tape did loop at quite a good moment and had they remained onstage rather than running off in a blind panic they could've reached a whole new hardcore rap audience. Anyway the surviving 'Vanilli' is now a folk type singer in LA and given B&S's habit of adding a new member each record, Fabrice's call up can't be too far away. I've darkened your doorsteps enough today, must dash !. Craig x * not Stevie Trousers' publication, obviously. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Wed Oct 20 20:59:51 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:59:51 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Snot Fair! Message-ID: <199910201600_MC2-89C9-74F9@compuserve.com> Hi, y2k non-compliant cardie wearers, I think its utterly appalling that censorship has been allowed to set foot in Sinisterland & that we are being prevented from enjoying the fruits of Miss Honey's filthy competition. If Tim won't let us see the entries on the list, could they not be made available on the www? The names of the originators of such disgusting & perverted drivel could always be removed or disguised to spare them the shame, humiliation & embarassment that the public exposure of the inner workings of their sick minds would undoubtedly generate. Please :) Outraged of Chelmsford +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gedole at xxx.com Wed Oct 20 21:33:05 1999 From: gedole at xxx.com (Gregory Dole) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:33:05 PDT Subject: Sinister: degrassi encounters Message-ID: <19991020203305.24777.qmail@hotmail.com> With all this talk of Degrassi, I wanted to share my brush with a Degrassi star. The director of the original Degrassi programme, whose name I forget, is a film studies professor at my old university (Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario, Canada). Well, the old guy would occasionally go drinking at Clark Hall Pub, where I used to work. And I would chat with him. Little did I know that anyone outside Canada knew of Degrassi...I thought it was just a canadian show that had to be on t.v. to fulfill our canadian content laws. So, I used to bartend for a small "c" celebrity, but a celebrity nonetheless, to quote Kids in the Hall. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Wed Oct 20 22:08:14 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:08:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: HELP ME!!! Message-ID: <00fb01bf1b3f$39d4cc00$72d1b0c2@default> I think that I'm going round the twist. I've suddenly had a relapse of the depression that nearly ruined my life 2 years ago, I'm skint, jobless, loveless and ugly! I've even started to constantly listen to love songs! Eek! What should I do? p.s. All suggestions about 5th floor windows and sharp objects have already been done to death :) -- Jason Andreas -- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Thu Oct 21 00:11:40 1999 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (MBBX9FF2) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 00:11:40 BST Subject: Sinister: nice In-Reply-To: <19991020100749.18873.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3FEF8A168FB@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> hey kids, i have to agree, at least up to a point with the analysis of the gentle waves album, on first listen some of the song-writing did seem a little inept, but after repeated hearings i've grown, maybe not to love it, but at least to be mightily impressed. in fact, i was even more impressed by the album and by my friend when i walked into the room where i had left him listening to it and he exclaimed, "this is in 2:4 time, nothing's in 2:4 time" and, lo and behold, i listened with my discriminating ears on, rather than my usual just-listen-to-the-pretty-sounds ears and he was right. impressed? i should say so!! i don't actually have anything exciting or even slightly interesting to say to you all (not unlike some others on the list) - sorry, i really should put my claws away, most of you are probably bigger than me and i don't want to fear for the safety of my ass. but, i thought i would post anyway as it is my intention to become one of the regulars that everyone gets to know and love(?), regardless of my lack of vocabulary and interesting experiences. i had one of those gorgeous unnecessary feelings of panic today when something goes slightly wrong and you know that it won't have a huge effect on the fabric of the universe or indeed your own little life, but it still makes you feel as if you desperately need to use the nearest lavatorial facilities. (i hope its not just me that feels like this in times of crisis because that really would be embarassing). anyway, i got on a bus which profesed on the front to be going to the area in which i live and it proceeded to head in that direction, to get to my flat one has to travel in a straight line along a single road and has no reason to turn at any junction. imagine my terror when after about half a mile, it turned left and continued in this direction for several minutes. for the duration of this time i tried to reassure myself that everything would be fine, it did afterall say on the front that the bus was going my way, but my panic only got worse when almost all the other passengers alighted and i knew that i was not yet anywhere near my destination. finally, the bus reached a crossroads, but, oh no, it was forced to wait there for what seemed like centuries as other traffic passed and i tortured myself that it might not turn right as i wanted it to, but would head in another direction. thankfully, the bus did eventually turn right and arrived soon after almost on my doorstep, but not before it had travelled through a very dodgy looking area, which i worried greatly that i would have to walk through. phew! sorry about that, i've just read through what's written above and realised that its the largest pile of nonsensical drivel i've read on here... ever (the word nonsense was first used by BenJonson in Bartholomew Fair, that's what i learnt at uni this week) that was just one those really dull anecdotes that you feel you can't tell anyone, particularly when there are few people you know that well, but putting it into writing gets it out of your system. i did intend to write something to cheer all you listees up, as everyone seems to be upset or depressed at the moment, but that's what came out i'm afraid. i think its the time of year you know as when i think about it i realise that my own happiness is teetering on the brink , but i'll just get drunk instead. cheers for reading this crap (if you did read it and didn't just scan through until you got to the end of the big paragraphs) :) stay beautiful, fiona >>>>----the best shield is to accept the pain, then what can really destroy you?----<<<< +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Thu Oct 21 00:52:27 1999 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:52:27 PDT Subject: Sinister: i am not very bendable, says treebeard Message-ID: <19991020235227.51798.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi everyone: a small gripe. i lost cds. three, to be exact. at least three. Spiritualized's ladies and gentlemen, mercury rev's other deserters songs, and the hollies best of. and maybe more. This is sadness, expecially mercury rev, which I feel is the Perfect Fall Album. I feek as if I've gained another tree ring, because I notice these sort of losses about once every year. It's a mark of age when you lose a cd, and not know where it went, or even when you lost it. ah well. and I need new socks too. Anyway, I am going to buy an al green cd and no one can stop me! I have heard many lovely recommendations on the list of late, and would love to hear their music- Spearmint? Wannadies? but alas I have not, and who is to help me? *looks over computer to see other heads and computers* nope, no one. someone please help me. although I am going to buy a replacement copy of Mercury Rev, I would like to find the Perfect Fall Album of 1999. Cynthia who has fallen and can't get up ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.cullen at xxx.com Wed Oct 20 16:25:28 1999 From: p.cullen at xxx.com (Paula Cullen) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:25:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ooooh, oui, je t'aime, uh, uh, yeah baby, give it to ME! etc. Message-ID: <01BF1B17.B9A59EA0.p.cullen@music-control.com> ahem. quite. i was just wondering.......are there any french listees.......? ........ wanna trade homes? no. not really. just kidding. but you may soon be seeing my face smiling (1) down at you from the magazine rack in your local cornershop any day now. myself and mr. explosion were away Down The Country for the weekend, y'see. so there we were, walking down the main street on saturday afternoon, when we were accosted by some MENTAL french types who wanted to take our picture for their MENTAL french type magazine. despite our prostests; french man -"cen we tek yoorrrr pictuuuurrrrre" (i've *never* claimed to be good at doing accents, ok?) mr. explosion - "no. go away." french man - "ah, mes cheries (2) but yoo look so cuuuute" paula: "ok." (3) mr. explosion: "but i thought we were going to go and get something to eat?" sulk, sulk, etc. paula: " sssssh, dear. close your mouth and let the nice man take our photo." we ended up agreeing to pose for a couple of pix. it all went a bit arse over tit though, when they pulled a couple of "Oirish" looking jumpers out of their holdalls and *suggested* that we wear those instead...... mine wasn't *too* bad (for a ballykissangel extra), but they kinda draped a pink jumper over mr. explosions shoulders in an Ian Botham fashion. which was nice ;) he WAS NOT impressed. now, i cant quite remember the name of this publication that i may be starring in ( i was too busy running as fast as i could in the opposite direction) but i imagine it's probably something like: "Gopping Idiots Monthly Featuring Silly Irish People In Minging Jumpers" .or something...... if anyone happens to come across it, could you let me know, so i can come round to your house and kick seven shades of shit out of you before you get to show it to anyone else? thanks ever so, paula cullen booze explosion booooze!!!! yeeeaaahh!!! "getting beer poured over your head isn't necessarily a bad thing. it's cold, it's good for your hair, and it makes you smell like a champ." (1) see also; gurning. (2) okay, he didn't really say this, but i thought it made my story sound more y'know, *authentic*. (3) paula is very easily flattered. people tend to use this to get her to do all sorts of silly things, and funnily enough, the daft bint *still* hasn't learned her lesson. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Thu Oct 21 06:45:07 1999 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:45:07 PDT Subject: Sinister: the brightness of the stars Message-ID: <19991021054508.99462.qmail@hotmail.com> So, my wait is over. Got to interview P�r and Kristina from The Wannadies two days ago. For f���s sake, how can people who are BIG rockgods for me be so incredibly nice. Really. I've always thought that when you meet your biggest ever idols they would turn out to be assholes. But: KABOOM!!! KABOOM!!! CHUNCK!!! CHUCK!!! KABOOOOOOM!!! SNAP!!! Thats what my heartbeat sounded like when I shook hands with them. But they were so sweet and lovely and wonderful when I told them that it was my second ever interview (the first one was with TheDuplo!, this finnish band, but I know them guys so thats a bit different), they just smiled and said that they'll try to be gentle with me. 20 minutes of ecstasy for me (nope, not that, I'm afraid, I only smoke L&M lights). YOU FU���NG BITCH!!! Sorry, had to say that. I don't know how many of you remember this woman I've told about here at our very nice office. The queen of bitches. She just came in. I said "Good morning!" she didn't say anything. She went to the Xerox-machine. Yelled at me because it wasn't on. What a nice way to start your day. UN I read from a newspaper this morning that the United Nations doesn't approve to terrorism. Erm... Who does???? But good for you, UN! But that's not a proper story. I'd find it nice if even for once they'd stop being such big crybabies about violence and international terrorism and slaughtering of innocent people. UN- BOSSES SAY: "SCREW THIS FRIENDLY HIPPIE SHIT, LETS GET INTO SOME SERIOUS KILLING BUSINESS INSTEAD OF THIS PEACE-CRAP!" Now theres a headline for you. More from the wonderful world of newspapers. TheWho is going to record a new album, it read in the same paper. This is not going to end up well, I'm telling you. And Crosby, Stills, Nash, Young, Johnny, Microwave, Rockingchair & Booboo are about to tour. Why, I ask you, oh why? Pssshhhhh. I'm off like a hurricane. @--->--- Jake le petit. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Thu Oct 21 07:21:32 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 07:21:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: HELP ME!!! Message-ID: <013401bf1b8c$858dd720$061e3c3e@default> I'd just like to thank everyone for their kind words. I will get through this, I'll feel much better in January (next loan instalment). The kids are a caring sharing bunch, and I love you all for it. Until next time.... -- Jason Andreas -- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From richard.connell at xxx.com Thu Oct 21 11:12:14 1999 From: richard.connell at xxx.com (richard.connell at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:12:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Bugger In-Reply-To: <013401bf1b8c$858dd720$061e3c3e@default> Message-ID: <3814121021101999/A03985/ADVAX1/11DAAA8C0D00*@MHS> Hello guttersnipes and stargazers, Well, i've finally gone and done it. To prove the saying 'a little knowledge is dangerous' (and few know as little as me) i have blown up my computer at home. Dont ask how i did it. I was just poking around inside it with a screwdriver and a large magnet and the POOF! A big homosexual fell on it. Oh, no, different poof. Then POOF! It exploded with a little whisp of smoke. So anyway, for the forseeable future I wont be able to recieve mail from my aol account or visit the Sinister IRC room, which is a bugger as i was getting quite attached. If anyone i have befriended in there would like to mail me here telling me what's going on, that its better/worse/whoareyou? than when i was there then mail me here. Or to just say hihowyadoing. Sorry for the blatant misuse of the list but im a rebel and i just dont care, er..., baby. In other news i missed hefner the other week (boo!) but am seeing badly drawn boy next month (woohoo!). And to continue the film thread you should watch; American History X, Thin Red Line, eXistenZ (yes thats how its spelt and it IS big and it IS clever), Rushmore (finally saw it) and your step sonny jim or there'll be trouble! Thank you for your patience, normal service will be resumed shortly. Rich (AKA Which, Whichita, Cowboy Which, Arse-faced Killah (my woohoo-tang name), pornstar which (my #cybersauce name), the cincinatti kid, the bengali tiger, the wolf of willoughby chase, the black panther, the white riot, the blue danube, joey 'the nose' gambino, eddie 'the hat' lentini, colin 'the nickname' perkins, the man with no name, the man with no nickname, the man with lots of nicknames, the man with too much time on his hands, the man who should shut up now, the man who will shut up now) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Thu Oct 21 10:59:22 1999 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 05:59:22 EDT Subject: Sinister: vulnerability/Nick Hornby/B&S/divorce Message-ID: <0.5594b7e0.25403dfa@aol.com> Dear Sinister listers: Its been a tough time of it lately having to try an reconcile the personal life which BTW, is not working and try to keep the future in perspective.... This list has always been a good vehicle to vent ones frustrations or shortcomings being that most B&S fans are sensitive to these sort of goings-ons and do sympathize or pretend to care more than the average internet list subscribing dolt..... I am still reading "High Fidelity". Yes, I am a slow reader since I usually read 4-5 books at once, now being "Tha Tao Of Pooh" by Benjamin Hoff, "High Fidelity" by Nick Hornby, "The Gormenghast trilogy" by Mervyn Peake and"The Myth Of Sisyphus" by Albert Camus. Currently, "High Fidelity" still speaks to me the most since I manage a new/used record store specializing in jazz/soul and can relate to Rob/Barry/Dick in the book and the tough time to keep relationships and intimacy afloat when you own a huge and awesome record collection and put music first and foremost before anyone or anything in your personal life.... I know. I'm pathetic but content. I can't say what the future holds for me but I thank the personal banter of new friends like Laura Llew and others sinister listees that have eased the pain and thanx for the music of Belle and Sebastian for giving me hope for the future and the songs of Nick Drake for allowing me to drown in the sadness and savor it while I can. Nuff said... Sincerely, Pete Gianakopoulos +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_leak at xxx.uk Thu Oct 21 12:17:11 1999 From: chris_leak at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?CHRIS=20LEAK?=) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:17:11 +0100 (BST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19991021111711.15208.rocketmail@web1302.mail.yahoo.com> Can anyone help me with the remaining clues on mycryptic pop quiz? i.e. These urban evangelist are wild = Manic Street Preachers & Easy Primary Colour = Simply Red etc etc The remaining clues are: 1. Give a lift to a bookworm 2. Many Jackets found in graveyard 3. Clergyman in long dress 4. Big apple movement 5. Dance in a jerry built prison 6. US Wildcats in the john Please help as there is a grand prize of £10's to be won. These are the only 6 out of 80 that we haven't been able to figure out. Ta. Leaky ===== ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Thu Oct 21 12:39:07 1999 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:39:07 PDT Subject: Sinister: Re: Message-ID: <19991021113909.52945.qmail@hotmail.com> This is stupid. Chris Leak wrote: >Can anyone help me with the remaining clues on >mycryptic pop quiz? > >i.e. These urban evangelist are wild = Manic Street >Preachers >& Easy Primary Colour = Simply Red etc etc > >The remaining clues are: > >1. Give a lift to a bookworm >2. Many Jackets found in graveyard >3. Clergyman in long dress >4. Big apple movement >5. Dance in a jerry built prison >6. US Wildcats in the john > >Please help as there is a grand prize of �10's to be >won. These are the only 6 out of 80 that we haven't >been able to figure out. ...and there goes my spare time, as I print those riddles out, stare out of the window and think about these. This is like a song that you just can't remember the name of and then you spend your nights awake and try to remember what it was called. Anyone that finds the answers to these, PLEASE mail 'em to me. @--->-- Jarkko F ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Thu Oct 21 13:01:52 1999 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:01:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Cryptic quiz... Message-ID: <2239FB92F07@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> A few answers! 2) Max Bygraves 3) Maxi Priest 5) Spandau Ballet Maybes 1) Eddie Reader (not sure about the Eddie bit!) 6) John Cougar Mellancamp cheers Chris Offbeat on the web!! http://www.shef.ac.uk/~offbeat/ Dance to the sounds of the indiepop underground at Sheffield REAL indie night +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Paulfie at xxx.uk Thu Oct 21 13:46:53 1999 From: Paulfie at xxx.uk (Paul Field) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:46:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: listeeee luuuurve (and not just yer average list cu sh) Message-ID: <8183113A18D5D111B27F00600851444CBB731C@OASIS_NT07> Well, I really thought I would probably never post again, but here I am talking to god knows how many strangers once more. Yes, I too have fallen for somebody who was once a sinister stranger. It sounds like a similar story to Amanda's, only much earlier in the game and much less likely to work out. Well, she does live half a world away. Fuck, I've started quoting Oasis lyrics. Somebody shoot me! After 'meeting' through Jim Schmidts not-so-secret (for us) Santa tape exchange last Christmas, myself and...lets call her Bob, Blackadder style (sorry, but she doesn't know that I'm sending this and may not want to be known)...we emailed each other pretty much everyday. And then the phone calls started...and eventually I visited her in beautiful California. Getting off the plane I could feel a thinnish, gooey substance running down my leg. For the dirty minded among us, I mean I was shitting myself ok? I was to be there, staying in her flat for 12 days. What if we never got on? As it turned out there was no need. They have toilets in America too. How was I to know? Anyway, we hit it off straight away, and a touch of romance seemed to be blossoming after as little as 2 days. And it just kept on blossoming and we kept on bosoming. Hoho, what word trickery I have at my disposal. Seriously though, I really did end up falling for her badly. Fuck it, I fell in love with her. And yes, I am well aware of how ridiculous that sounds. And yes, I agree people do not fall in love within 12 days of meeting, not outside of Hollywood anyway. My head says I'm being idiotic, naïve and that it's all hopeless. My heart is saying something totally different, but I can't translate that into English. I have had a holiday romance in the past and this is definitely different. And the feeling is mutual. At least I think and hope it is. It's just a totally shitty situation to find yourself in. But I'm glad of it anyway (what happened rather than the situation). Does anybody out there know where I can get my hands on a teleportation machine? Love to you all, but especially to you Bob! Paul. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Elizabeth.Kurtis at xxx.com Thu Oct 21 15:16:14 1999 From: Elizabeth.Kurtis at xxx.com (Kurtis, Elizabeth) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:16:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: How many Pokemon can you name? Message-ID: <262810611403D211A8FF00A0C94CAF3B024DE4F6@QUAY-STREET1> ...None actually, cos I've just started watching. Wasn't the one this morning that looked like a cross between a hippo and a mushroom stuffed into an egg cute? Anyhow, I found a poster last night on the way to the buses on Oxford Road. It was advertising a Belle and Sebastian themed disco at the Star and Garter (in Manchester) on Wednesday, November 17th. (not to be confused with the night where Richard will be DJ'ing at Smile, which is at the S&G on Saturday Nov. 6th) In small print, it said it would play other songs as well, which is good. But it's at the Star and Garter on a Wednesday, which is bad. Mainly because the regulars in the bar downstairs are probably scarier on a weeknight. I'm very curious as to who's running it though -- anyone know? It's a Sinister LAYDEEZ weekend starting tomorrow in London. Bingo, shopping, videos and kick-ass Sunday lunch is on the agenda, with Pam Berry acting as top hostess. Sezzie wanted us to have a Ann Summers rep come by on Saturday night, but we managed to talk her out of it. love, elisabeth p.s I hope the squirrels keep her. Casting, Manchester x 2129 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Thu Oct 21 14:28:19 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 09:28:19 -0400 (EWT) Subject: Sinister: Anxiety attacks Message-ID: I tried talking to a girl on the train today, but it didn't end up working out well and I ended up talking to her friend instead. I brought my copies of Sinister and Tigermilk with me to work today, as well as my copies of the softies it's love and the masters of the hemisphere disc. I like to listen to music on my computer when NPR is not playing the Diane Reim show or Talk of the Nation, which is right now. Speaking of Diane Reim, she had Joanne Rowling on talking about the Harry Potter books. I don't know what to think of it. Part of me wants to see what all of the stink is about, while another part of me says it can't be all that good. But I think she should be congratulated for writing something that children WANT to read. Maybe I will buy the first one, just to see what the deal is and so I can have it when I have children some day and am encouraging them to read. After J.K. Rowling, Diane has Edmund Morris on. He's the guy who wrote the controversial biography of Ronald Reagan, where he created a fictional character called Edmund Morris to relate the story. While he stole this device directly from TIm O' Brien, I think he is clever for using the device in a work of supposed non-fiction, because it calls into question the nature of non-fictional works. However I have a disdain for Morris' assertion that he is an impartial observer of Reagan's life. I think he wrote it to piss off Republicans and is too gutless to admit it. I think it is great though. Morris related a story that Reagan nearly became a Communist but the American Communist Party thought he had too big of a mouth and wouldn't take him. Who would have known that this rejection would lead to him becoming the anti-Christ (politically speaking) I find it kind of humorous that I read more now than I did when I was in college. Fight Club (the novel, not the movie) is excellent. I want to see the movie now just to see how they pulled it off. I have the Best American Short Stories 1999 on deck and then either a book by Russell Banks or J.G. Ballard. I haven't decided yet. Anyone who doesn't think Belle and Sebastian rock out has obviously not heard I Could Be Dreaming or Me and the Major. I think I'm starting to ramble. This one is for Gregory Dole: And he proceeded to dig us a well, and I screamed, we already got a well! But he kept right on diggin'. Later, Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Thu Oct 21 13:51:40 1999 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:51:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Enormous cartoon sausage Message-ID: <2577.991021@send.demon.co.uk> Dear all, I think in light of the Canadian possé's brushes with Degrassi characters the English fraternity should enlighten on the present activities of the cast of our very own Grange Hill. For instance, Zammo (who was the man who said yes long before that bloke from Delmonte) is a locksmith in central London and his on screen girlfriend Jackie apparently sells flowers on the Embankment. While Doyley props up the bar in the Windmill pub in Hounslow, who I once managed to piss off by putting The Doors "The End" on the Jukebox. I don't even like the Doors it's just that at 16 minutes long, or whatever, it seemed extraordinarily good value. It nearly went down as badly with the regulars as putting REM's "Hairshirt" on every time I went to the Milford Arms in Isleworth. People ended up actually kicking the jukebox as they hankered for Milli Vanilli, Paula Abdul or something. Very funny. In fact this could be classified under the sport "townie baiting", which is illegal in some countries. I guess it was lucky old Alistair Scotty wasn't there as if he would have kicked them back for not respecting Stipey's whines and it could have got very messy. Onto more pertinent matters, Looper were indeed a bit flat the other night, though, as mentioned the supporting exotic* narcotic poet and the hour long wait there in pub hours didn't help. I was kind of surprised as they had got some good write ups here, but I also saw Hefner for free that night and they were a bit bloody fantastic. Again. Thanks to Starry and Mr Daffy Moore (whose review of Nalda Said I eagerly anticipate) for the multiple Looper tickets, I was unfortunately unable to sell them to unsuspecting tourists though. Te ra, Martin ear confection recordings (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) * - by exotic I of course mean bollocks p.s. I also played rugby against Roland from Grange Hill as a boy. Those who know rugby and Roland would not be surprised to find out he played prop and there was more than the occasional shout of "Row-laan, Row-laan" in his general direction. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Thu Oct 21 15:13:46 1999 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (MBBX9FF2) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:13:46 BST Subject: Sinister: curiouser and curiouser Message-ID: <40E0323534A@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> hey kids, no dull long-winded stories for you today i'm afraid, but i was just thinking that you guys have to be the sort of people who would appreciate the surrealist joys of 'alice in wonderland'. i had a quick trawl through the archive and could find only passing mentions, but if i have missed out on an in-depth discussion please ignore this. in particular i was wondering if anyone shared my view that, through the looking glass is, in fact, superior. none of my friends have ever been arsed to read either and usually look quite sceptical when i mention that they are two of my favourite books, so i just thought some of you might be willing to discuss them with me. if not, don't bother i'll just resume my place in the gutter cheers, stay beautiful, fiona >>>>----i'm desperately trying to stop myself quoting smiths lyrics----<<<< +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From EliotNew at xxx.com Thu Oct 21 15:29:12 1999 From: EliotNew at xxx.com (EliotNew at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:29:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: doing my share Message-ID: <0.bb3c0f0b.25407d38@aol.com> << Can anyone help me with the remaining clues on mycryptic pop quiz? i.e. These urban evangelist are wild = Manic Street Preachers & Easy Primary Colour = Simply Red etc etc The remaining clues are: 1. Give a lift to a bookworm 2. Many Jackets found in graveyard 3. Clergyman in long dress 4. Big apple movement 5. Dance in a jerry built prison 6. US Wildcats in the john Please help as there is a grand prize of �10's to be won. These are the only 6 out of 80 that we haven't been able to figure out. Ta. Leaky >> 4. Manhattan Transfer Eliot +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_leak at xxx.uk Thu Oct 21 16:34:31 1999 From: chris_leak at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?CHRIS=20LEAK?=) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:34:31 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Ta Very Much Message-ID: <19991021153431.6385.rocketmail@web1301.mail.yahoo.com> Afternoon, Thanks for everyone who has responded to my plea for the remaining answers to the cryptic pop quiz, you've all been very helpful indeed. If any one is bored enough and fancies having a go at the other 74! I can post them to the list. Who knows, if the response is good enough I may see my way to awarding a prize to the first person to get them all right! Wit-woo!! Bless Leaky P.S Does anyone have a good cure for hiccups, I'm suffering (hic)? ===== ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Thu Oct 21 16:56:17 1999 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:56:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: All the leaves are brown, and the sky is grey... Message-ID: <380F37A1.540963F3@cs.strath.ac.uk> And there's nothing wrong with that. What was that fat woman complaining about? Autumn is nice, isn't it? It's a little bit summer, a little bit winter, a little bit country, a little bit German existential pop. Sorry I knocked the little arsonist on her ass. Don't play with fire, children. Use it to burn buildings down instead, and ward off dangerous animals like Tim Hopkins. Here we go... Hooperman: > I too make passes at girls who were glasses. I once knew a girl who was glasses, but she was always making a spectacle of herself and once tried to frame me. Luckily, though, everyone could see right through her. Arms of strength/sex: > according to Family Fortunes on Saturday, everyone swallows 6 spiders a > night. Which is rubbish, I think. I read that the average person swallows about 10 spiders while asleep in their whole life. But why was that woman taping her mouth closed? Spider's are an excellent source of protein, aren't they? Fool. > Family no. 1 went home with £72 between them. Hardly worth the humiliation. I'm ritually humiliated and kicked in by the Milngavie ladies over 75s bowls team every saturday afternoon, and no-one's ever given me 72 quid for the priviledge. Or anything, come to think of it. Except that pair of false teeth. Sweetie: > when r looper going to one of the virgins in glasgow? and what one will it > be? Been and gone I'm afraid. Last saturday, Argyle street. Craig: > Also today saw the official launch of my new game "Star's on Your Tube". Best keep her away from that emergency cord then. Train drivers can get most upset, so I've heard. Paul: > And yes, I am well aware of how ridiculous that sounds. > And yes, I agree people do not fall in love within 12 days of meeting, not > outside of Hollywood anyway. I know someone who says he fell in love in 2 hours, so perhaps it's not as silly as you may think. And the head's overrated anyway, go with the heart. Peter: > Trousers, have you been using Mark Casarotto's chat-up lines? No, I think Stevie has a few years to go before he can use that old "bald men are more verlie, you know" line. I'm going to see Blair Witch tonight, at the special late showing. Woooo! (ghost noises etc). I read in the paper today that it's rubbish, but we shall see. Oh, and finally Archel: i've just had some very... interesting photos > developed. they feature a > shopping trolley, a mirror ball and several > sinisterines......... watch this > space. Oh dear. As Porky Pig used to say, ththththat's a wrap. Love, Alasdair xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Thu Oct 21 17:01:03 1999 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:01:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: All the leaves are brown, and the sky is grey... References: <380F37A1.540963F3@cs.strath.ac.uk> Message-ID: <380F38BF.9300A61D@cs.strath.ac.uk> Ten points to anyone who can tell me what the word 'verlie' means, cos I'm buggered if I know. Alasdair xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_leak at xxx.uk Thu Oct 21 17:02:52 1999 From: chris_leak at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?CHRIS=20LEAK?=) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:02:52 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: You asked for it! Message-ID: <19991021160252.23136.rocketmail@web1306.mail.yahoo.com> One bored person has already asked for it, so here it is: Leaky's Cryptic Pop Quiz, Da Da!! 1. Nun Toboggan 2. Get Paste from a Tube 3. Elizabeth, Victoria & Mary 4. BA – BSc – BEng 5. Stop Jock & Stop Jock 6. Dickie, Groucho, Harpo and Zeppo 7. Babies on the Slab 8. East End Revolutionary 9. Desert Water Hole 10. Treacherous Vicar 11. Aircraft Data Recording Unit 12. Insanity 13. Grafting Blokes 14. These Young Men Sell Mice 15. Pale Serpent 16. Both of You 17. Merlin 18. I’m Fanatical Towards the Girl 19. Disturbed Vision 20. Prosperous City Vermin 21. Plasters 22. Desperate Trouble 23. Rub out Midge 24. Preserve Reflected on Famous River 25. Gender Arms 26. Picture of a Large Blue Sea 27. Silhouettes 28. Hamlets Female Relative 29. Greenhouse Plants 30. Next Command 31. A Year’s Quarters 32. Corridor Containing Horse Fodder 33. South American Instamatic 34. Picturehouse Tune 35. Dark Sunday 36. Distribute Equally 37. Ham or Beef Sandwiches 38. A Friendly Prickly Bush 39. Give a Lift to a Bookworm 40. Warm Galaxy 41. Bird of Prey with Colic 42. Hard of Hearing Wildcat 43. German Heart Valves 44. Jacket Bought near Blackpool 45. Dorothy’s Dog 46. Unemployment Card 47. Many Jackets Found in Graveyard 48. Throttlers 49. Clergyman in a Long Dress 50. Gorgeous, but not Northern 51. Revolvers and Flowers 52. Spinning Rocks 53. First Man & Insects 54. Thunderbolt Helps Grass Grow 55. It’s Wonderland, Just Like That 56. Refinement Association 57. Lumbar Puncture 58. Upset Over Phobias 59. Queen of Slimming World 60. William’s Vacation 61. 40 Watt Bulb Band 62. Old Blue Eyes is off to Make a Movie 63. Fun-park Magnetic Pack 64. Aviation Strikers 65. Part Time Coppers 66. Easy Primary Colour 67. Igloo 68. The Cost of Watching a Comet 69. Oxygen Bottle 70. Man Friday’s Partner in Flames 71. Genuflect for a Gem 72. Big Apple Movement 73. Dance in a Jerry Built Prison 74. Fashionable Assembly 75. US Wildcats in the John 76. These Urban Evangelist are Wild 77. Parents 78. Moist, Soaked, Saturated 79. Not what they Seem 80. Sent here for Porridge ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From markniciu at xxx.com Thu Oct 21 17:24:30 1999 From: markniciu at xxx.com (Mark Niciu) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 09:24:30 PDT Subject: Sinister: Perfect Fall Album of 1999 Message-ID: <19991021162430.3419.qmail@hotmail.com> The Perfect Fall Album of 1999 (drumroll): Beulah "When Your Heartstrings Break". Fall is such an American season, isn't it? And wouldn't it be fitting to celebrate this American of all seasons with the Beulah boys from Cali? Mark ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Thu Oct 21 17:39:08 1999 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:39:08 -0400 Subject: No subject Message-ID: cripes, i'm writing a lot lately aren't i? anyway, i was glad to see jason andreas is feeling better, tho i never got around to telling him i voted for him for list crush yesterday, despite his abhorrent behavior on the radiohead email list. ;) of course, that behavior may have been the result more of the people on the list, and not jason himself. some of those people . . . jeez. anyway, talked to the ex boyfriend last night. i hadn't talked to him in a couple weeks, and late last night i check my email and there's something from him saying that he misses me badly and tried calling but nobody answered. the fact that nobody answered confuses me, because i had my cordless with me all last night, and the batteries weren't dead, which would make me think i'd gotten a lemon except that my mother called me and that worked no problem. maybe he tried calling the house phone. that one's busted. anyway, so like an idiot i call him back and end up in an hour long tear fest, trying not to tell him that i don't love him anymore. it was rather painful. yeah, i miss him and everything, but he's sitting there asking me if i want to go on a date (!) with him, and all i could say was that i didn't think it was a good idea. now i'm very confused about my feelings. hmph. i did tell him that i kissed seth, though. i was worried it would get back to him through some chain of the boston brit pop scene, most likely beginning with a drunk teri (no offense, girly) and ending with a drunk roommate named ariel. but i'm listening to the halo benders and i'm appreciating this album a lot today. more than usual. i feel like i'm hearing more of it and from a different perspective, as well. it's strange, but quite pleasant. oh, and the album is "god don't make no junk". i have yet to get their second album. i've got the third, tho, and despite my sister saying it wasn't that great i like it a lot. but no album without "don't touch my bikini" can hold a candle to "god don't make no junk." and if you've never heard "don't touch my bikini," go out to your local record store that lets you listen to the stuff before you buy it and listen to it. song number 2 on "god don't make no junk" by the halo benders. it's brilliant. now that i'm done ranting about a band that is *so* not belle and sebastian, maybe i should include a little b&s content. maybe not. ooooooh, i feel like i'm being naughty. wow. i really need a fuck. *sigh* i'll shut up now. -kerry "there is something you should know: the girl of your dreams is here all alone." -morrissey, "southpaw" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Thu Oct 21 17:24:39 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:24:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: But whoever is in this day and age (yeah)? Message-ID: <80256811.005A2D6A.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Yikes! I just went to buy a packet of cigarettes and the shopkeeper asked me if I was over 16. This hasn't happened since I was 24! When I was 13 I got into a 15 certificate film. There were no erect penises in it all, but Billy Crystal did use the f-word. Anyway, watertight logic leads me to the conclusion that I have not aged in the last 13 years. I thought that funny looking man I met all those years ago was just a loony to be humoured, but now I see that I might have got myself into all sorts of bother. Has anyone else on Sinister ever sold their soul to the devil? Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Thu Oct 21 18:25:34 1999 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:25:34 -0400 Subject: Sinister: My arse is mud Message-ID: <199910211325_MC2-89EB-68AE@compuserve.com> Hi poptarts, I feel I must share this with you. Today I feel embarrassed. I was walking across a lawn at college today, lawn that was 2 parts grass and 3 parts mud, when my eye caught something. A girl, very attractive with ample bosoms. I smiled at her and then it happened. Because I took my gaze off of where I was going and on to her chest I failed to navigate around a very slippy bit of mud. And so I fell, arse over tit. I landed on my bottom and it really hurt. She rushed over and picked me up, I think I turned red. Later of embarrassment but then, erm, I winded my self in the presence of this goddess. she was very nice and even stayed with me until I could breath again. But I can't help but feel like an arse. My trousers were covered in mud and I had to go home with a muddy arse. Sadly I couldn't ask for her number, not that she'd give it to a Frank Spencer like me. I just couldn't do it, no really, I really couldn't. I physically couldn't. Ah well. Right, Mrs Williams has agreed to make some scones and cream, old Ralph Jones had agreed to donate the last few barrels of cider to the beer tent and the Vicar is going to announce the events so please turn up. But what is all this for? Well, we're gonna have ourselves a telethon. Honey needs a robot dog and we're the people to do it - no really. Sadly, I have nothing more to add :) Rob <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> Green Sheep http://members.tripod.co.uk/wpwe Ivor Polanski http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Performance/4408 <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Thu Oct 21 19:02:06 1999 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 19:02:06 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Me? I'm going sledging on binliners! Message-ID: hallo peeps I'm afraid I've joined the ranks of the depressed and so thought that I should spread the depression around by inflicting another mail on you lot but rest assured that I won't go into my depressing story about last night cos I dont feel up to talking about it. I will tell you however that me and sweetie have been cooking up plans for a possible stirling meet up and that we have decided on a party at my chalet as her tender years will stop her having lots of fun in bars with us. The party idea is good though as it means we get bowlie-esque chalets and so I can call it all tomorrows potterings or something (any good ideas for a name should be mailed to me) and then everyone can just stay over before crawling home the next day. Mail me if you're interested and I'll get details to you when I have any to give. Oh and if the glasgow lot don't show an interest then I'm gonna beat you all up. Speaking of Glasgow I was there today for a careers fair, I stilldont know what I'm gonna do with my life when I finish uni but at least I got to buy a copy of Nalda Said which I read on the train back and then finished this afternoon. I think there may be a few people here who want to read it so I wont talk about the plot but I can recommend it to you all Its really good. I'm pretty sure that I've forgotten to say something I meant to say but as I've forgotten it you'll have to do without it. With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Thu Oct 21 20:21:58 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:21:58 PDT Subject: Sinister: buzz buzz buzz Message-ID: <19991021192158.77779.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi List! Why,we're all just busy little bees aren't we? Sweet,sweet sweet action! >here if you need list luuurve advice, >Amanda Ok then.Can you score me a date with that hot Irish guy who wears glasses and was at the Glasgow picnic? Sweet action! Outraged in Chelmsford wrote: >If Tim won't let us see the entries on t= list, could they not be made available on the www? The names of the >originators of such disgusting & perverted drivel could always be removed >or disguised to spare them the shame, humiliation & embarassment that >the>public exposure of the inner workings of their sick minds would >undoubtedly generate. I TOTALLY agree with 'Outraged in Chelmsford'.I think,since we all have the right of information, have the RIGHT to see these entries.Plus I want to see how you could all could be so creative and perversley disgusting when the most naughty word in my belle and sebastian phrase was 'fart'. Alaisdair wrote: >I know someone who says he fell in love in 2 hours, so perhaps it's not as silly as you may think. And the head's overrated anyway, go with the heart. Well,yeah of course! I've fallen in love in less than 5 mintues,let me tell YOU, ok. And *no* it wasn't lust..I loved them for their personality,that poetic SOUL that gleamed through those few seconds of eyecontact.Besides,I don't look at men's bums,its rude. Alaisdair also wrote: >I'm going to see Blair Witch tonight, at the special late showing. Woooo! (ghost noises etc). I read in the paper today that it's rubbish, but we shall see. Ho ho ho...well,obviously SOMEONE didn't agree with my view of the Blair Witch being donkey crap because yesterday,waiting at home,was an un-marked video in an un-marked envelope,stuffed in our mailbox.The video itself? A 5 minute short which consisted of someone with a shaky,handheld camera going through the forest late and night and breathing HEAVILY.This would fade in and out from time to time of a close-up of a mans face in shadows..and at the end,the mans face opens his mouth and sings in a womans voice. If my name isn't spelled out in flames underneath my window tonight,I will be very disappointed. bring on the halloween fun,I said it bring it on baby! ooh,don't you love halloween weater? the whole atmosphere? the candy? oh I could just think of it all and go nuts...mmmm... love, a enthusistic genevieve p.s thankyou kevan for the french pop info!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Thu Oct 21 20:42:39 1999 From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE DICKIE) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:42:39 PDT Subject: Sinister: BELLE AND SEBASTIAN BEAT ME AT TABLE TENNIS Message-ID: <19991021194240.97988.qmail@hotmail.com> HELLO PING PONG PEOPLE MMMMM JOE STRUMMER WAS AMAZING I WAS DRUNK AT THE RIGHT LEVEL AND JOE HIT THE SPOT KOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL ROCK I FOUND AMANDA'S LIST E INTERESTING take me and steve for example. email progressed to chatting progressed to phone calls progressed to meeting in person progressed to acknowledging smitten-ness. now we're engaged. all the cool kids are doing it. CAN THIS REALLY BE TRUE IT IS SO AMAZING AND HAPPY GREAT ETC MMMMMMMMMMMMM NO CENSORSHIP GENTLE WAVES ARE BEAUTIFUL WE ALL NEED WATER BUT WE DON'T ALL NEED BOTTLED WATER I DON'T LIKE RELIGION IT REMINDS ME OF BULLSHIT I USED TO LIVE JUST OFF PENNY LANE I WILL NEVER FEEL THE SAME I'M SERIOUSLY THINKING ABOUT A LIFE OF CRIME LOVE AND LADYBIRD BOOKS *OF ALL THE PEOPLE YOU COULD OF BEEN YOU WERE YOU* *OF ALL THE PEOPLE I COULD OF BEEN I WAS ME* GHD ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mark at xxx.com Thu Oct 21 20:45:23 1999 From: mark at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:45:23 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: signing off Message-ID: Hello all, and goodbye some... I need to uns*bscribe from the list cos I'm having trouble keeping up. And since I start a new job in a couple of weeks, it will only become more difficult. I'd be happy to correspond or hang out with any of you individually and collectively. So please let me know about Chicago-area meetups and such. I've corresponded with many of you in the past, mostly not so recently though, so please do get in touch if you'd like to pick up where we left off. I may be back when a new album or EP is coming out. Meanwhile... --Mark __ Burning Rome : SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 < http://www.burningrome.com/ > < download MP3s, hear RealAudio first > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Thu Oct 21 18:02:10 1999 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:02:10 PDT Subject: Sinister: Curses Message-ID: <19991021170212.9895.qmail@hotmail.com> Have you ever had one of those days? Everything goes wrong. First it starts with mildly annoying things - you couldn't sleep the night before, some part of you aches quite painfully, and everyone around you seems to be in a foul mood. That's when you find out that you crashed your brother's computer last night erasing his hard drive and now there is talk of a shotgun. Your speed and his aim are in question. Yes, I seem to have a computer virus attached to my Midas fingers. Every computer that I come near seems to become very sick. My brother came over this morning to inform that after I left last night that his new computer froze up and now refuses to boot. Of course, he's extremely upset at me though nothing happened while I was over there & I really have no clue what I did. But the hard drive is gone. *gulp* In the past month, situations like this have happened to me more than anyone would ever consider normal. Whether it is a sign, a warning, or bad luck I'm not going to test my sanity or my family's patience for me anymore (its the south - they know how to lynch). I know that I'll never be able to use my brother's computer again. Of course, I'm really too much of a coward to do that again (Yes, a coward. I didn't call a certain someone's cell phone either. hehe) . I'm most sorry to anyone that I was going to burn cds for but that isn't an option anymore (deepest apologies Blakee). I'm also going to stop being on-line very often. Maybe just once a month to check e-mail or such. Thus, I'm unsubscribing to the list. Today I'm leaving to go on a roadtrip up north & we'll be going all the way to Maine. *YaY* After this trip, the Dakotas (& we know my disbelief that N. Dakota even exists) will be the only states of the 48 continental that haven't been graced by my computer havoc wreaking presence (of frankencense and myrrh). I'll be gone for a week and am most likely to unsubscribe from the list when I get back. *BaH* I'm sure to post again before I unsubscribe and who knows - I might change my mind. But I really shouldn't. I did try to stay off the computer once before and it lasted a week. So the statistics aren't favoring my resolution but we'll see. Has anyone ever thought of doing a directory of members. I would offer my services but I won't be here. Anyway, I think it would be most helpful and I would be so interested in one of list members in the US. When I moved back to North Carolina, I tried to find list members here by searching for NC under the archives but came up dry. I go on roadtrips all the time and would be most interested in hearing about the great local spots from people from there. I think that it could be an excellent resource. Anyone else interested in this idea? Any volunteers to collect? I would do all that I could to help. This might be my shortest post ever. Let's keep it that way. In the famous words of Jerry Springer, "Until next time, take care of yourselves and each other." Laura *********Laura Llew's List Liar of the Week********** That member of the list who really just cannot be trust. After reading about how help- ess and ugly he was, I went to see the list's self acclaimed elephant man picture. Come to find out that not only is he cute but he's adorable. Too young for me but this still doesn't keep Laura Llew's List Liar of the week from being none other than ...........................Jason Andreas........................... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From simon.allstar at xxx.net Fri Oct 22 02:17:16 1999 From: simon.allstar at xxx.net (Simon Bell) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 18:17:16 -0700 Subject: Sinister: I would go out tonight. Message-ID: <000401bf1c42$de782be0$8e90bc3e@oemcomputer> I could tell you how bad my life is... but it is not that bad. Although if anybody could tell me a good club to go to in London on Friday, that would help. My friend Paul R is visiting and Strange Fruit is no longer running. Which is crap cos it wasn't. B & S content = They used to play Me & The Major. Twice last time in fact, which was nice. And the Field Mice which was nicer still. Rock On And On. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk Thu Oct 21 21:27:36 1999 From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (sweetie) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:27:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hit parade Message-ID: <002c01bf1c02$f7fb0a00$fd53883e@anne666theasylum> hello my friends and how r we all?? well i would luv to say i am dandy but then that would be a fib. i have a sore throat. not that sore anymore but tickly and i now have a cough to go with it. oh joy Jason Andreas asked: >What should I do? good question. unfortunatly i have no answer. but i am going to wish u the best of luck in finding what u want. ok so best of luck jason. oh dear i was most worried! my tbwtas cd was covered in little splash marks (i have no idea how they got there) and it was jumping something awful so i went into falkirk today and bought me some cd wipes. £2.49 for 10. bloody rip off. they didnt even take all the little marks off! it has stopped jumping but that isnt the point. bloody falkirk virgin. and it was cold as well. :( *but* i did find out the name of the christy moore song that i like. its called the reel in the flickering light. so all when the divine comedy (ah neil...), geri halliwell and emma bunton release their new singles, whos (if any) r u going to buy?? most folk (*all* trendies) i have asked have said emmas. but they probably all prefer steps to b&s anyway. and that says it all. poor buggers. your friend always sweetie ;oP xox icq# 44244252 ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Life isn't a rehearsal, it's for real. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Thu Oct 21 21:28:21 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:28:21 PDT Subject: Sinister: now my empty cup is as sweet as the punch Message-ID: <19991021202822.63570.qmail@hotmail.com> Well,I'm just obsessed with quoting Alasdair today.Oh well...theres worse things I could do.. > >Ten points to anyone who can tell me what the word 'verlie' means, cos > >I'm buggered if I know. > > > >Alasdair xx I have a bit of an obsession looking up words in the dictionary that I don't know.'Verlie' doesnt exist,but,there is: virile \Vi"rile\ Having the nature, properties, or qualities, of an adult man; characteristic of developed manhood; hence, masterful; forceful; specifically, capable of begetting; -- opposed to womanly, feminine, and puerile; as, virile age, virile power, virile organs. So how does this fit into a chat-up line? You just walk up and introduce yourself as being capable of begetting? Nice. You can always count on me, genevieve (i'll go do something useful now,i promise) p.s What are Mark's chat-up lines anyways? Oh and Mark,if you're coming to Canada next year,why Toronto?? (Besides the fact that lovely sinisterines live there)I mean it's just that if were a visiter,I would come to Canada for it's natural beauty,and Toronto isn't exactly the best example of Canada's natural beauty.Anyways,if you ARE going to go to a city,you should go to Montreal. p.p.s I think we should all try and put our brains together,like Sister Disco said and come up with a question for Pete Townshed for Q.I've never gotten any questions in there.You have to be smutty and sensational,I think,so that Q can look like the good guys and be "Honest,we didn't want to know about that,its those sicko FANS out there!" I asked Arab Strap a bunch of questions for NME once and they never picked mine.Doh. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Thu Oct 21 22:12:35 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 22:12:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: *bong* *bong* The Jason Report *bong* *bong* Message-ID: <00d901bf1c08$fffab600$edd5b0c2@default> Hi my little support groupies ;) FINANCES Well, spoke to college staff today. Apparently I can't get financial help from them until I have an overdraft. So I'll be hitting the TSB tomorrow and begging to them. I'm really beginning to hate this. I've also applied to both McDonalds and Burger King (I'm that desperate). Still, I'm winning the war against depression, I even managed to crack a joke today ;) EVIL COLLEGE TEACHER A man by the name of Alan McLaughlan, teaching politics in College Of Commerce. Typical lesson... 1. Come in with stacks of Overhead-projector transparancies. Makes us copy them all down. 2. Tells us nothing about what we're 'learning.' 3. Someone in the class asks a question. Head bitten off. 4. Asks us a question and gets ratty when we don't have a clue what he's talking about. 5. Makes us copy more stuff. 6. Goes away and comes back 30 mins later, expecting us to have magically learned something. AAARRGGGHHH!!!!!!!!! etc LOVE Nothing yet, not too bothered at the mo, as I'd have no money to do anything anyway. Heard a story that touched me though.... This guy was going on his first date with a girl he'd liked for ages. He actually got a couple of his friends to help him out. He took her to a park, they sat together in the sunlight. Friend number one comes from nowhere, hands them two glasses and a bottle of wine. Disappears. Friend number two comes along with a guitar and serenades them. Aww, that was soooo uplifting ;) Well, keep your fingers crossed for my wee bank escapade tomorrow. Cheerio ;) -- Jason Andreas -- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Thu Oct 21 22:33:57 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:33:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Nalda Said: Buy Me! Message-ID: <199910211734_MC2-89F2-E0F0@compuserve.com> Hi, I think I must have caught Prolific Posting Syndrome off Andy the other evening. Sorry to be a pest, but Martin Robinson (a jolly nice chap, no wonder people let him pipe creme patissiere into their shell-likes) said: >Mr Moore (whose review of Nalda Said I eagerly anticipate) I did finish the book yesterday, as 'flu kept me away from work. I wouldn't go so far as to call this a review, but I enjoyed it a lot, because it was well written, sad, funny, romantic, disturbing, stylistically different, had thriller-like tricks, & is still making me ponder the plot even now. Couldn't get Stuart's voice out of my head when I read it, either. I recommend a purchase, especially as its much better value & quality than the Gruesome Warbles & will keep you stimulated for considerably longer. Unlike Signor Casarotto, apparently... Nick D said: > Has anyone else on Sinister ever sold their soul to the devil? No one who's supposed to be officially subscribed, anyway... >:) Bye, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com Thu Oct 21 23:02:56 1999 From: Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com (Paul Rudolph) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 18:02:56 -0400 Subject: Sinister: People On Trolleys, version 1 Message-ID: <0056750010126941000002L512*@MHS> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From jcbaird at xxx.edu Thu Oct 21 23:59:21 1999 From: jcbaird at xxx.edu (That Girl) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:59:21 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Curses References: <19991021170212.9895.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <003601bf1c17$ea1910c0$6209ed81@jamie> Laura Llew asks: > Have you ever had one of those days? Everything goes wrong. Have you ever had one of those weeks where everything feels a little off, like you are caught between two dimensions? OK, that was last week, but Monday, I should have never left the house. Lack of sleep, someone trying to run me over in the parking lot, losing a necklace I always wear plus a day filled with unscheduled inconviences. And so it goes. Ah! I should also say hello! My name is Jamie and I have just recently graduated from the nursery. I bounce between Kansas City and Lawrence, KS whilst spending too much time finishing my degrees. I am a quiet shy one, and do not tend to post often. It seems I must have sold my soul to the devil because I am often mistaken for someone who needs to be carded, or home in bed because it must be past my curfew! til later *jamie* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Tigerxdare at xxx.com Fri Oct 22 01:46:21 1999 From: Tigerxdare at xxx.com (Tigerxdare at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 20:46:21 EDT Subject: Sinister: i'm certainly not pleased with my options for the future Message-ID: <0.24f035d9.25410ddd@aol.com> hello my darlings, in case any of you are wondering, about the mystery album that i was so desperately trying to find the name of, you need not wonder anymore. it was a lovlely band called joan of arc and the name of the cd is live in chicago 1999. it is fab and you all should buy it! i have no stoppped listening to it all day. this past weekend i had my first date with a girl. it was so amazing. i really had a wonderful time, and i am glad that everything worked out so well. we even kissed! it was great, and we are going out again very soon. have any of you ever seen the movie love and other catastrophies? here in america no one has even heard of it, but i happen to come across it in this little video shop and i rented it and it is my favorite movie. i dont know, maybe it was big in england, since it was an english movie, but we hardly ever get good films here from europe. i never did get to see the acid house and i am quite dissapoinited. it was only playing in one theater in philly and noowhere else in pa or new jersey. i wanted to see it so badly but it was only playing for about two weeks, and then they yanked it out of the theater because apparently noone went to see it. now i will never see it, as i am sure it will take a billion years for it to get released onto video here in the states. wohoo! i just found out that the black heart procession is playing philly with tristeza. that will be an awesome show!! i went to philly today and i went to repo records cuz they have everything i am looking for usually, and there was the cutest girl working there. she had really short blackish hair with greenish blue eyes and she was the most beautiful girl i have ever seen. i was talking to my friend and we were reading this list of albums that were on it and one if them has the tindersticks on them, and i said i have never heard them but i really want to since i always here fabulous things about them and she said they were really good but they were all out of them. oh snap! i thought. but next time i will check them out. oops i should have said oh pants! instead, right marie darling? hehe. ok i must be going dears. xoxo, lauren +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From francis69soul at xxx.com Fri Oct 22 06:46:35 1999 From: francis69soul at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?kevin=20parker?=) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 22:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I am new so go easy on me! Message-ID: <19991022054635.2382.rocketmail@web1303.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, I've been reading your goings on for two weeks now while I waited in purgatory to be given a voice. My name is Kevin Parker, I know Kevin is not a particularly great name, though I suppose Kevin Shields and Kevin Rowland have given it back some dignity. My mother wanted to call me Luke!I am from Shrewsbury in England but I live and work in Tokyo where I think B&S are reasonably popular the reissue of "Tigermilk" seems to have sold really well HMV had these really cool promotional stickers aswell. Did you know there is a BMX Bandits tribute band here? Anyway Belle and Sebastian content I love them they remind me of when I heard Kid Jensen play "This Charming Man" or how excited I used to get when Janice Long would say "Tonight in session we have Felt". Yes I am old Is 30 old? but I mention this merely to say that B&S make me feel really young when I hear them or maybe they just make me feel warm and hopeful and you really only feel like that when you're young don't you?I could go on about The Go-Betweens and The Pastels and Felt but I suspect everyone on this list has similar taste in music books etc which is why people sign up in the first place.Regarding the censorship debate you've been having I think either people ought to admit that censoring is always a subjective process and always subject to personal prejudice.For example I would dearly love to dump the Cure and Suede in the dustbin of history and solder the lid shut for eternity. Or people should decide never to censor anything and I mean anything, one or the other.People can't simply pretend that censorhip is based on objective judgements as the Daily Mail would have us believe.If any of you are in the vicinity, I mean Tokyo way, send me a message It can get a little lonely out here my flatmate likes Poison the band not as some sort of after dinner drink.The cafe where I am is playing Kiss "Crazy ,Crazy Nights" and I think I like it. I need a drink. Love to you all. Kevin. "Once,long ago, you were mine for ever, so if I should reach into the past and touch you with invisible fingers don't move away" Spike Milligan. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ASpawnyGit at xxx.com Fri Oct 22 08:06:36 1999 From: ASpawnyGit at xxx.com (ASpawnyGit at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 03:06:36 EDT Subject: Sinister: Jesus christ..this list is blatent hypocracy. Message-ID: <0.3d25d3e9.254166fc@aol.com> If I see another fucking post from some clever wotted fucker that could probably write a damn novel from what i've seen from the wit of this base of folk...write another depressed email Im going to throw up. Cheer up you fuckers...a I have seen at least 5 new probable belle and sebastian songs wtitten from the contents of this bloody email list. For christ sakes use your damn angst for good not eveil...JEESUS CHRIST. If only I could write with such passion. You all should be bloody song writers you fools! ah shit I'm drunk again..but i meant what i said for fucks sake! -Bradley +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Fri Oct 22 08:49:22 1999 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 00:49:22 PDT Subject: Sinister: Cool place to hang out Message-ID: <19991022074924.35974.qmail@hotmail.com> I just HAVE to do this: www.mobilesdisco.com ok, It's in finnish but you can get in quite easily: first, click on "okei, okei, eteenp�in". Then click on the little "R". then: "mobiilin nimi" is your name. "salasana" is your password. "p��", "paita" and "byxat"... well just click on them and you'll see. then click "eteenp�in". then: E-mail Post from the happenings in the disco? age? connectionspeed "Jotain itsest�si": something about yourself. and then "Ineen" is in. you need shockwave, but this place is bloody funny, JUST suitable for B&S people! Thats it. Please come and visit the place, I'm the guy in the cornertable. -Jarkko F. ps: Sorry about this, but its not useless. I promise you. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi-tv at xxx.com Fri Oct 22 08:26:39 1999 From: jordi-tv at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano i Vilar) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:26:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S on a Smiths tribute album ? check out.... Message-ID: <19991022112639.HM.00000000001lKgq@mixmail.com> Hi, sinisterland: Straight to the point: this is a message that I got from a guy from a record label, who wants to release an Smiths tribute album on may 2000. I read that Cinerama were supposed to cover "London", and when I posted it to the Morrissey-solo website, I got this answer: Hi there, Cinerama have already covered it! I have the DAT in the office. It is going to be on The First Time Records. A Tribute To The Smiths - "I Know It's Over" (tft 001/007). Also appearing will be The Cardigans, Supergrass, Cinerama, Kent, Ida, Quicksand, The Deftones, Jejune, Cobolt, Billy Bragg, Super Furry Animals, Versus, Pop Unknown, The Gloria Record, Sleater-Kinney, and many more. 20 bands total. We tried very very very hard to get Belle and Sebastian, but they turned us down...they are easily one of my favorite bands, that is why I'm saddened that they turned me down...such a pity...I just thought I'd put that in seeing as your e-mail address is of the aforementioned! We would still love to have them, I'm going to try to call their management again sometime soon. Interesting, isn�it ? On the topic of banning films, I can say that this film from the Studio 54 disco was showed here with the advertising of "The only country in the world where you shall see the whole version", or something similar. I don�t know if the movie was so "scandalous" (I don�t know if it�s the right word, my engliz iz ztill cdap), as I didn�t showed any interest on watching it. So, the Stu interview wasn�t taped by anyone ? I�d be quite delighted on hearing it. In other topics, i�m excited about watching Tindersticks + Arab Strap at the Lovely "Palau de la musica", tomorrow evening. However, I find "Simple pleasures" a bit disappointing. It sounds more like Frank Sinatra than Nick Cave (without having nothing against Sinatra). It�s Arab Strap�s "Elephant shoe" quite different from the slightly boring "Philophobia" ? Is it worth buying it ? or should I try with Ben & Jason ? Well, have a fab weekend everybody. And my best wishes for Brandt�s mum. ================================================== Jordiet Sinistre - jordi at belleandsebastian.org ================================================== Tu E-Mail Gratis en http://www.mixmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From W.M.Hayes at xxx.uk Fri Oct 22 12:13:58 1999 From: W.M.Hayes at xxx.uk (William Hayes) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:13:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: A quick hello Message-ID: <4291567065.940594437@HA-1E022-PC.herts.ac.uk> I'm very busy right now but I just had to write, I've just got past the nursery and enjoyed reading all your posts. I'm supposed to be looking on the net for information about a set design course at Kingston, I'm making a film set miniature for my first 3rd year project, I'm a model maker btw, and this girl on my course keeps pestering me to help her print things and generally use the computer, we've been doing it for over two years now but I guess some people never get used to useing them. About B&S: I have been listening to Belle & Sebastian for years now, I just never got around to subscribing to this lovely list so I never met anyone else who liked them, people are strange, except for Steve (Carsmile). Unfortunately my collection is not complete as I only have a record player (it is of the highest quality but as a student it will be a while before I can afford such modern conveniences as CD players to add to my system), it's a matter of preferance really. This means I do not own a copy of Lazy Line Painter Jane, if anyone can help with this I would love to hear from you. I haven't followed the music press or kept a close eye on the internet for quite a while now so it seems I have missed out on some promising sounding stuff, I tend to go to a little record shop in St Albans called Woodstock Records and he generally knows what I like. People keep mentionig Gentle Waves and Looper, I'll have to look into this. I'm sorry I can't really comment on any of the current issues on the list as I have not read much this week, it really has been hectic with proposal deadlines looming, but that will change. Anyone in the general area Hatfield, St Albans or just around London or Hertfordshire, I'd be interseted to hear from you, I'm OK really, just ask Steve (even if he is of questionable character, he did bugger off to Bowlie without me after all, the git). Sorry it wasn't as short as I thought it would be and is probably not partcularly interesting, but hey, it is my first time, Bye Bye Sinister Sorts Will +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Fri Oct 22 12:22:09 1999 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:22:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Nicking the Universe Message-ID: <01bf1c7f$adfe1f00$046b9ac2@g5-200-3> Hello, you fools, I love you Why does nobody talk about the golden age of girl groups on this list? We were out at Da Doo Ron Ron at Po Na Na (infantile? us?) the other night to see Beanz Geddes and the Divine Symington play Northern Soul and other records by The Verve. It was great! They played my request (for the mighty Doris) and Stevie Jackson said hello. And Susannah was there too! Much better than that Dave Stewart Looper bloke on Monday and nary a techno-pagan octopus in sight. Why does Peter Miller never tell us when he's about to come to Britain? Does he have something to hide? Do you believe in life after love? Or, more importantly, in life after rock and roll? I always thought that once you've gone down the proverbial dumper, the only option open to a drummer is becoming a mini-cab driver. But I was talking to a friend the other day about back problems, and she told me that her new chiropractor is Terry Chimes AKA Tory Crimes AKA the sometime drummer for The Clash. What a sensible chap. Chiropracty seems like a rather perilious career path for someone who's used to bashing away at bass drums, but fair play to the bloke. Does anyone else know of rock'n'roll animals who have settled down to get proper jobs? I like to imagine that Slash might one day see the error of his ways, get a pension plan and decide to become an orthodontist. For Simon who was asking about clubs in Lahndan on a Friday: tonight there's another Track and Field at the Betsey Trotwood pub on Farringdon Road. I was woken this morning by the dulcet tones of Melody Maker journalist Whispering Ben Clancy. Fortunately he was on the radio rather than in my bed, talking about MM on GLR. Both once-venerable institutions seem to be heading for the dumper at the moment: the BBC plans to turn GLR into another 24-hour talk and rolling news station with phone-ins for people who like to complain about dog mess on pavements, and this week's sampler for the new-look MM seems to have sold its soul to sports-rock and taken its design cue from the Innovations catalogue. Wasn't the future supposed to be all about narrow-casting, with the media catering for finer and finer niche-markets? In which case there should be a radio station that only broadcasts Baxendale, Mary Margaret O'Hara and Debussy and a magazine for Muji-wearing thirty-something Donald Barthelme fans. As it is, there isn't a single listenable radio station and every pop/film/etc magazine in the world seems to have a naked bird on the cover and an identical editorial policy. What a sack of arse. Sorry for ranting, but sometimes there's a place for stating the bleeding obvious. I am intrigued to hear the verdict on Nalda said - it got some kind of amazing review in the Guardian yesterday (obviously by Dastoor under a pseudonym). But I'd also to be interested to hear the word on Gregory's Two Girls... anyone? Thank you for your interest in my love life and burgeoning media career. Joussé Troussé +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Fri Oct 22 14:09:12 1999 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: re: How many Pokemon can you name? Message-ID: <19991022130912.5409.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> wumpkinny: >How many Pokemon can you name? >...None actually, cos I've just started watching. >Wasn't the one this morning that looked like a cross >between a hippo and a mushroom stuffed into an egg >cute? sounds like bulbasaur but what do i know... actually, it starts on itv (8 in the morning) next week (i believe) so it's no longer going to be the preserve of Space TV owning scum and Americans. >It's a Sinister LAYDEEZ weekend starting tomorrow in >London. Bingo, shopping, videos and kick-ass Sunday >lunch is on the agenda, with Pam Berry acting as top >hostess. Sezzie wanted us to have a Ann Summers rep >come by on Saturday night, but we managed to talk her >out of it. mike, tag, tim, trousers, i think we ought to retaliate and find somewhere we can sit and watch the rugby, drink beer and scratch our crotches all weekend. oh except trousers won't want to anymore cos he'll be 'otherwise engaged' with his new lady friend i bet, the big sop. we could all go to the cinema with tag, see some of those 'art house' films he's always on about. (actually, it looks like i might be at work all weekend cos, well, cos everything always takes three times longer than you allow for it even if you allow three times as much time to start with) speaking of pam, i've just finished the birthday cake that she made me, a whole two weeks and two days after my birthday. she's not one to skimp on the chocolate that berry girl 8) (cheers pam) and is it only me who thinks that 'poke-mon' could be something that ann summers reps sell? someone else: >wow. i really need a fuck. *sigh* my mouth is opening and closing and no sound is coming out. girls don't say things like this. except the drunken australian ones. no-ones mentioned beanz' turn on the decks on wednesday night. any good? 'nalda said' got favourably reviewed in the guardian yesterday too but i'll leave dastoor to post the details if he hasn't already. aren't fake html tags funny? watercolour challenge next week comes from gloucestershire (my birthplace) and includes pictures of toddington railway preservation society's steam engines and stuff. it's a lot like paint along with nancy without nancy. andy ===== andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Fri Oct 22 14:36:39 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:36:39 EDT Subject: Sinister: Fractured prose Message-ID: <0.b0d0aae4.2541c267@aol.com> Aloha. Right,given that we (the kids) got an awful lot of terrible Canadian TV in our youth..Degrassi St,Degrassi Junior High,The Littlest Hobo,Kids in the hall et al. What I want to know is,do the Canucks get Scottish or English TV?....If not then count yourselves lucky as watching an episode of "High Road" or "Eastenders" drains the will to live. Steve S xx. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Fri Oct 22 15:02:19 1999 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:02:19 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I've been waiting for a guide to come and take me by the hand Message-ID: 2 posts on consecutive days I hear you gasp (or was it oh god not him again) well I'm affraid I've remembered what it was I wanted to say that I missed yesterday so here goes. With appologies to anyone this offends Degrassi wasn't actually very good. Admittedly though it is better than buffy which someone in here once claimed to be the greatest teen TV ever. Everyone who ever saw it though should know that the greatest teen TV ever was my so called life which followed a slightly depressed doc marten wearer through a couple of years of school and believe it or not actually used actors of the correct age rather than 20 somethings as schoolkids. It was kind of like blossom but with intelligent dialogue and real people (OK so it wasn't much like Blossom at all then). Also wanted to mention how cool peoples names are in here. I would never have to call myself the narrow wizard if my real name was Brandt Fundak or Joss Moorkens, anyone else got a personal favourite cool sounding name? that's all from me then luv'n'hugs owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lindiantal at xxx.com Fri Oct 22 14:59:32 1999 From: lindiantal at xxx.com (lindi antal) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:59:32 PDT Subject: Sinister: can we talk about books? Message-ID: <19991022135932.15428.qmail@hotmail.com> i know, i never write to the list, but with talk of B&S, Degrassi, Donovan, Melanie, Neutral Milk Hotel, etc, etc, it becomes apparent that we all seem to have a lot in common... so, i'm reading this book and i am AMAZED. i'm sure that as soon as i say it, everyone will tell me that this is the most obvious masterpiece of our time and where have i been to have not read it before now? but i NEED to hear someone else's opinion on this piecce of beauty, keeping in mind that i am not at all finished it yet. enough. the book is called Little, Big and is by John Crowley. i found it in my dearest's car and not even he had read it. if anyone has not read it, maybe try to pick it up and we could do an Oprah-esque book discusion. please don't mock, i'm fragile. Lindor ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com Fri Oct 22 12:18:13 1999 From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 04:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Paula Cullen mail: danger: OVERLOAD....OVERLOAD Message-ID: <19991022111813.2453.rocketmail@web1402.mail.yahoo.com> Hey - I'm back, I was away for couple of weeks. aaargh - NEVER, NEVER mail paula cullen I did, when the booze explosion returned, and now she has bombarded me with utter shite ; ) How many times does jason mail - 74 in the last month on my count only kidding babychris crystalballs __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Fri Oct 22 14:23:03 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:23:03 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Silence = To be forgotten In-Reply-To: <80256811.005A2D6A.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Message-ID: HI!!!!!!!!!!! Is it PTO-syndrom contagious?I just read David Moore's last message and some unstoppable impulse forced me to send something,likely incoherent,to the list.But the acronyms TO (too often) are not appliable to me,so far, as no thread had the power to turn on me since at least a week ago.In fact,I know how volatile and obnoxiously superficial is this Sinister crowd and regarded this lacking of correspondence on my side as potential source of forgetfulness of my magnificent self.I was not in Las Vegas as Tom Jones during this time, but our cases are not that distant! My best friend was in Las Vegas all that time and sent the tackiest postcard ever.It should be in a Kitsch museum.And she was listening to B&S in her walkman in a casino surrounded by obese Nebraska farmers in tracksuits living up to their golden retirement age.It's difficult to top as bizarre-place-to-listen-to-'THEM'.I am aware of some discussion on B&S lyrics and world on the roof of a Palestinian hut in a refugee camp last Summer,orchestrated by some acquaintance of Dame Archel Playforth, the greatest poetry-filer of them all. Faustian content: it would be daft to attach my age (in digits) to any conversation I get involved.But quite often such a question is adressed to me without any particular reason, I guess because people cannot work out comments I drop in my lines.It makes me feel great to answer back very Bette-Davisesquely in certain circumstances : Oh, I am too grown-up for that,sweetie.With the correspondent shock on who believed me a naive first-year.Well, some first years (eg that Sarah Clarke lass)are not that naive and they hang around with lascivious early thirties gentlemen... Looper last night: THe techno paganism is not the next revolution,at least to my eyes.Cool visuals,warm darkness and Stuart David seems a marriable and kind lecturer in electronic engineering,let's say.The only difference with raw reality is he is not marriable any longer as heis already married.OUr man in Seoul listened to Nalda and got the book,so I suppose it could be borrowed to keep up with the reviews. Narrowing markets are in: Who is going to supply for wide-banded tastes?Like mine : molecular physics, 60's photography, nouvelle vague, Roxy Music in 1972 and Bach (suites,specially)and anything David Gedge is involved in,and any non-minimalist clothes , (suits,specially),and baking cakes,and red wine,and Coke,and jelly babies if they are from Woolworths.And Bakunin. Wide band devices are more difficult to tune.Put your hand up to ask Dr Stu David! loadsaluv A. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From radioheadsuck at xxx.com Fri Oct 22 15:25:18 1999 From: radioheadsuck at xxx.com (Seamus Harte) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:25:18 GMT Subject: Sinister: She actually believes in haircuts!!! Message-ID: <19991022142519.41820.qmail@hotmail.com> hello, Yes, that is a rather meek opening. Tigerxdare at aol.com mentioned < Honey told me I should try posting this again, and since I am on the digest I don't know if it posted, but I'll assume it didn't. If I'm wrong, I apologize. Now then... Now that my mom isn't sick anymore, let's talk about my REAL problem. I'm in love with someone. I have been for a long time now. I have mentioned her on this list before. She also happens to be my best friend. I love her. I'm pretty sure (95%) that she loves me. And yet nothing hppens between us. Why? Because she tells me she is scared. She wants guarantees from me, and they are guarantees I can not positively make. She won't live for the moment. She says, "what happens if we're together and I have to move to another city?" And I tried to make her understand that it would be more likely that we would remain together in any respect if we got together because if we got seperated as friends, I think that would really put a strain on our relationship. I don't do long distance well. I can't make any guarantees, but if you have 3+ years under the bridge with someone, don't you think that I would be willing to make a sacrifice? Of course I would, but I don't want to look that far ahead in the future. We are totally like that Go Sailor song Every Day; if you don't know it, I think this lyric describes us perfectly: Do I give my heart away? I do it every day It troubles me and I know it troubles you and the worst part is that I know you love me too. I know that's what bothers me the most--that i know she feels the same and she's just too scared to do anything about it. Any helpful comments or suggestions? Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Fri Oct 22 15:24:45 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:24:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 'Municipal tristesse'? I like it! Message-ID: <80256812.004F4261.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> I'm a little bewildered by this B&S mole who has burrowed his way into the Guardian's book review staff. Never heard of this Sukhdev Sandhu before. Cracking review. I hope it doesn't lead people to buy the novel and think 'this is pish - the records must be too'. I'm not showing much faith in this book am I? I will give it a try, honest. I just hope it's better than the last Scottish indie scene-related novel I read - 'Morvern Callar' by Alan 'Superstar' Warner. Someone on the list said it was great a while ago, which shocked me, because it isn't. Gosh, I'm getting beligerent in my old age. What will I be like when I reach 16? Tender as a bruise Nalda Said By Stuart David Rating: **** Sukhdev Sandhu Thursday October 21, 1999 Since the release of their first album, Tigermilk, in 1996 the Glaswegian group Belle and Sebastian have acquired a large audience of young and really not so young, boys and (especially) women. They're loved for their soaring, melancholic melodies; their funny, worldly lyrics; and, most of all, because their songs speak to the heart with knee-buckling emotional directness. The group also pursue extra-curricular projects. Most successful has been Stuart David who fronts Looper and has written two ludicrously charming books. The first, Little Ink Polaroids, was a collection of sketches of the pictures he would have liked to have taken. His first full-length novel, Nalda Said, conjures up the same kind of municipal tristesse as Belle and Sebastian. The unnamed narrator is a jewel thief's son brought up by his Aunt Nalda. His father, on the run from both the cops and his fellow crooks, visits him briefly and spoons him a diamond, smothered in milk and moulded bread, for safekeeping. As he grows up Nalda goes mad and he stumbles into an itinerant life, always upping and offing, fearful that his secret will emerge - he still carries the jewel inside him. Eventually he finds gardening work near a hospital. Here, in spite of his taciturn shyness, a nurse called Marie takes a shine to him. She spends most of the day wheeling around loonies who shout "How are your biscuits?" The rest of the time she tries to get "Reynard" to open up a bit and trust other people. Fearful that she's a secret agent, he struggles to break his vow of rhetorical chastity and tell her something about himself. It's an odd story, a care-in-the-community fairy tale. Slow and faltering, it has the artful artlessness of Daren King's recent Boxy an Star. Yet Nalda Said is far more disturbing - reading it I kept recalling the Gibbons twins, two schizophrenic sisters who decided as infants to become self-elective mutes. The novel shows how the stories we tell ourselves to ward off the panicky void can end up disabling us. It also gives a horribly realistic depiction of solitude. There's no teen angst or melodramatic self-flagellation here. Instead we're lured into pitying a narrator who fears human contact, who's unable to believe people might quite like him. David's insight into how easily we can waste our lives, impaled by longing and useless desire, produces passages of rare compassion. This is a deeply unfashionable book - not only in its subject matter but in its reticence, its emotional tactility. No matter. It's the novel Antoine Doinel, the buffeted hero of Truffaut's Les Quatre Cents Coups might have written. Tender as a bruise, it will be a friend indeed for those shivering in needy isolation this autumn. ? Published by IMP, £7.99 Oh, and to anyone who's not met Arantxa, she s talks like that in real life too. How great is that? Nick xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Fri Oct 22 16:07:14 1999 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (MBBX9FF2) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 16:07:14 BST Subject: Sinister: fall/fall Message-ID: <426E7463140@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> hey kids, watch as i undermine my intelligence in one easy step...... did any other british listees have a moment of confusion when first confronted with suggestions for the greatest fall album ever. i thought for a second that someone was referring to albums that sound like "the fall" and have made albums that if they were in fact by "the fall" would be considered to be their best work. i even thought this despite the fact that the albums suggested could not be mistaken for "the fall" in any way at all. that was one of those things that you realise afterwards is clearly ridiculous, but at the time seems a perfectly feasible explanation. i'm sure university is making me stupider (see!! stupider isn't even a proper word, ahhhh!) now i'm just embarassing myself - possibly my greatest talent stay beautiful, fiona ####are you leading me on? tomorrow will you be gone?#### +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Fri Oct 22 16:16:50 1999 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 16:16:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Gelia Geral Message-ID: <19991022151650.29662.rocketmail@web1706.mail.yahoo.com> Dear you lot, Whoops, I've just realised that you need to do some work at a university too. Dammit. Other people have realised this, as I realised when I got emailed two essays. Our teacher is a big fan of the "Inter-Net", and "Electronic E-Mail". He sounds like he is from The American Deep South (as opposed to the "Deep South of England" where I am located) too, where lots of books are censored. Best not tell him we get to read NOAM CHOMSKY books in politics. I bet they're banned too. Jason Andreas - how can you have spent your student loan if you don't have a bank account? Obviously if you haven't got an overdraft you haven't got a bank account from which you need to pay your SLC cheque into... that confuses me. I got my NEW AND IMPROVED bank account today, I expect my student loan cheque to arrive in 2003. Andy asked if Da Doo Ron Ron was any good, and I refer you to the summary conjured up upon the night : "Its like Night of the Living Dead, but with boogie". I feared for my life, being in the corner where the Big and Clever dancers were spinning about and generally showing off. No-one spun on their head though. But they were all veeery sweaty. Chris Geddes has cut his hair off and looks like a skinnier Graham from that Blur. Ooh, and Helen Shapiro was played at one point, and I had to dance to it by myself. I define Cool. Dr Pants: <> Ah, as a dirty old man once said, there's "no future". Aha! I have found that in Lunding town theres lots and lots of niche-markets catered for and no-one seems to notice it. Track & Field, a B&S themed night? Madness. Theres probably a place for ska as well. Gal Costa and Caetano Veloso were being Brazillian as well in some place. I like Gal Costa bucket loads me. And today in Kingston, there were two tramps howling "Wichita Lineman"! That was ace! I want to be a tramp when I grow up. A Japanese singing kung-fu monk meerkat tramp though. Damn, but I'd smell. Ok I'd prefer to be a higher class of Japanese singing kung-fu monk meerkat. Now THERES a niche market. One day, the media may cater a publication just for me. But I expect not. Hey, isn't this Sinister list our like, own niche-media, man? Text-based of course with the opportunity to become multimedia when we organise and create.... Speaking of which, I have decided to create something to rival Papercutz, and Tigerthingiewhateverthehellitwas that Lesley Jo did (which I saw a copy of the other day) and perhaps even the New Musical Express. My friend Ross is doing a Darkcore fanzine called "Schmerzen Horen" which will include an article dissecting the Pink Floyd influences in Trout Reznors music. I'm going to write for it as well. About... Comet Gain. I'll tell him that they really do work their Kraftwerk/SchoenLapBarfMusik/Avant-Rock influences to the max.... Mmmm, really tonal work with samplers... So now I'm going to do and read a chapter on reader response criticsm vs new criticsm (I think). Soon I will tell you exactly how HARD it is writing an essay, and I will be a commplete and utter student. Even though I'm finding most students to be total tossers! Cheers! I think I must really be 90. Like Joe 90. Doh... Bye, Love Sarah ===== ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Fri Oct 22 16:46:13 1999 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Fwd: Da Doo Ron Ron Message-ID: <19991022154613.14925.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> i was asking: > "no-ones mentioned beanz' turn on the decks on > wednesday night. any good?" and cress (who's in the nursery) was kind enough to reply so i'll forward her words to the list. BECAUSE I CAN: > it was marvellous. even bob stanley (st.etienne) > turned up to have a dance. chris seemed to enjoy > himself almost more than we did and couldn't stop > grinning all night. > > am seriously considering cultivating a beehive at the > moment! > > we should try and get him down to London more often > i think. > > see you later > > cress > c.darwin at sghms.ac.uk > St. Georges Hospital Medical School cue lee and herring type jokes about cress... how come i don't know anybody called cressida? sheltered life i guess. that said, i did go to university with the bloke who owns the shop below the pop cafe in manchester. i thought he looked familiar when pumpkinny and wumpkinny took me and bun for lunch there over christmas but it was only when his name popped up on 'Fantasy Rooms' during the week that i was sure. (and was it me or did that huge brown bean bag cushion / chair thing look like a turd?) actually, i do know a jessica, a tamsin and a felicia so i'm not doing too badly. G 'caps lock' D >I'M SERIOUSLY THINKING ABOUT A LIFE OF CRIME and i'm seriously thinking about a life of grime. andy ===== andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Fri Oct 22 17:40:51 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:40:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My life is a Go Sailor song References: Message-ID: <007501bf1cac$34907be0$6cd5b0c2@default> I'm not exactly an authority on women, but try writing her a wee letter, outline your feelings for her and tell her that you are *incredibly* serious about her, but that you can't possibly make guarentees about that sort of thing, because plans never work, but assure her that you *DO* have very very strong feelings for her, and promise her that if anything does happen, you'll do your best to make sure it works. Once again, good luck... -- Jason Andreas -- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people ICQ: 45821217 ----- Original Message ----- From: Brandt Fundak To: Sent: 22 October 1999 15:54 Subject: Sinister: My life is a Go Sailor song > > Honey told me I should try posting this again, and since I am on the > digest I don't know if it posted, but I'll assume it didn't. If I'm > wrong, I apologize. > > Now then... > > Now that my mom isn't sick anymore, let's talk about my REAL problem. > > I'm in love with someone. I have been for a long time now. I have > mentioned her on this list before. She also happens to be my best friend. > I love her. I'm pretty sure (95%) that she loves me. And yet nothing > hppens between us. Why? Because she tells me she is scared. She wants > guarantees from me, and they are guarantees I can not positively make. She > won't live for the moment. She says, "what happens if we're together and > I have to move to another city?" And I tried to make her understand that > it would be more likely that we would remain together in any respect if we > got together because if we got seperated as friends, I think that would > really put a strain on our relationship. I don't do long distance well. > I can't make any guarantees, but if you have 3+ years under the bridge > with someone, don't you think that I would be willing to make a sacrifice? > Of course I would, but I don't want to look that far ahead in the future. > > We are totally like that Go Sailor song Every Day; if you don't know it, I > think this lyric describes us perfectly: > > Do I give my heart away? > I do it every day > It troubles me and I know it troubles you > and the worst part is that I know you love me too. > > I know that's what bothers me the most--that i know she feels the same and > she's just too scared to do anything about it. > > Any helpful comments or suggestions? > > Brandt > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Fri Oct 22 18:15:52 1999 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (Johan Nilsson) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 19:15:52 +0200 Subject: Sinister: we're all sluts on the inside References: <19991022142519.41820.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <19991022170450.87399.qmail@hotmail.com> >>well theres an Irish band called Joan of Arse Well that is obviously not the same band, Joan of Arc are from Chicago and have released one of this years most interesting albums, Live In Chicago, 1999 (no, not a live album). Actually, criticts has called Joan of Arc for Joan of Crap or Jocks of Arc (the later because they had a basketball in their tour van...). Anyone on this list loves Tim Kinsella's ex band caP'n Jazz? They are wonderful. I used to sing and played the horn in a band that covered their "Troubled By Insects" and "Rocky Rococo", under the name The Agents of the Secret Service, or as our concert posters said, the A.S.S., but when we got on stage we called ourselves the Twisted Buttfuckers. Oh it was all a joke though... Mostly rebelionship against the grunge and heavy metal kids that came to the gig who were all like fucked up when we got on stage with suits and a breifcase with the mic in (like the Blues Brothers) and put the mic so it pointed up in the air so two could sing in it... And in the background we Good Vibrations... I tell you, it was one of the most fun things I have ever done. A moment of pop star-hood. Johan. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Fri Oct 22 18:18:14 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:18:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Get back (I'm evil) Message-ID: Pink Ladies and jet boys, I walked around London today teaming bright red socks with vintage heels and foolishly expected people not to laugh. By the end of the day tounges were being stuck out in defence. It was quite nice when someone asked myself and beau if she could take our picture, (simalarly to PamelaBooze Explosion's experience) though I was wishing I hadn't pratted about sticking a £1.99 sticker on my face minutes before as looking in a mirror later I noticed a nice circular red mark had been left on my cheek. What a stunner! I bought some records from Rough trade, who didn't infact serve me roughly as I had hoped, and were rather namby pamby and polite. I bought records from one extreme to another. The Trembling Blue Stars 'do wap' music, and Lolita storm's goodbye america/get back (I'm evil). Lolita storm is LOUD and proud and purposefully recorded in a very, very crap way. To be honest, it's all a bit Diana Spencer Mine explosion. I think the trembling Blue stars are very pretty, and very nice. Though lots of pretty and nice things are also very, very boring. Give me glamour! Give me Drama! Give me blood and sweat and tears, fits and starts and broken hearts - but *don't* give me nice. Gawd, Autumn and drippy records, what a miserable pair. kerry said: >wow. i really need a fuck. *sigh* Which is nice. I really need a haircut. I'm going to kidnap Darren Hayman on my way and attack him with a pair of clippers. It is after all my duty to keep our popstars Neat. Make-up is brilliant, and cigarettes are excellent. Erica x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zvoruna at xxx.com Fri Oct 22 19:53:47 1999 From: zvoruna at xxx.com (ZvoRunA) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:53:47 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Dear Steve S. Message-ID: <2963199910522175347250@starmail.com> Hey, Steve S. wanted to know if Canadians were graced with British shows and yes... not only do I still get the theme song to Coronation Street stuck in my head on Sunday mornings but Monty Python was a mainstay in our house. Wasn't Dr. Who British? I am still having nightmares. I really want to move to the UK. I really really really do. Is there a more glorious place on earth? I never found anything that compares. I have looked. ok i should shut up before you think I am trying to kiss someone's (or some country's) ass. I'm not. I guess the UK is a magnet, I'm a paperclip. oh hey I just received my new fox shirt and badges. Aren't I going to be the talk of the town. a la prochaine z- _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lapastie at xxx.com Fri Oct 22 11:42:50 1999 From: lapastie at xxx.com (Gareth Probert) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:42:50 BST Subject: Sinister: Anyone in Manchester going to Meet-up? Message-ID: <19991022104250.40812.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello everybody, I have not been on the list for some time now. I have recently began university in Manchester, and live on Oxford Road. I was strolling down the road the other day, when I suddenly abruptly stopped: I had seen a poster for a B&S Meet up here in Manchester! I have not yet met anyone who knows, likes, or has even heard of Belle & Sebastian since being here - despite wearing my badge! Because Manchester is a big bad scary place, and the Meet up is quite a way from where I live, I was wondering if there was anyone out there that I could meet up with to go to the event. I would be most grateful if anyone who doesn't mind meeting me could tell me - I'm sure everyone would prefer it if you mailed straight to me rather than the list! (I have been away, but I remember little things like that!) I'm sorry if my mail isn't relevant to the current list, and that I don't really know anybody on the list anymore, but I would really like to go to this meet up, and I'd rather not go alone. Thank you for reading! Lots of love Gareth (Is Stuart G. still on the list? You know, the list crush bloke?) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Fri Oct 22 18:57:18 1999 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 13:57:18 -0400 Subject: Sinister: i won't forget to put in a subject line this time, i swear Message-ID: looks like i've started posting every day. if any of you have problems with that, let me know and i'll shut up. B&S: they were playing tigermilk yet again in the campus store yesterday. the novelty has worn off and since i've yet to find out who's responsible, it's just getting irritating. why don't they play sinister or maybe one of the EPs? must it always be tigermilk? it's a great album, sure, but that's got to get a little irritating after a while. did any of you read the onion a few weeks ago when the cover story was something along the lines of: cafe employee just lets paul simon "graceland" play for a fifth time." that's how i feel about the folks in the campus store here. so it seems my comment about needing a fuck seems to have shocked at least one of you. (okay, so once again i haven't been reading many posts in their entirety). if i remember correctly: andrew dean said: [ someone else: [ >wow. i really need a fuck. *sigh* [ [ my mouth is opening and closing and no sound is coming [ out. girls don't say things like this. except the [ drunken australian ones. well, i'm neither drunken nor australian. yes, be proud of me, i've not had a drink since the champagne-laden afternoon earlier this week. but that doesn't mean i'm stopping, no. we've got a bit of surprise party planned for one of my housemates tomorrow. his 21st birthday was yesterday. his girlfriend has hired a stripper (i helped pick her out), and i've kicked in $50 for it. i'm hoping i get my money's worth. my parents are coming to town for the weekend. i told them i need to be back here by 9pm tomorrow night. someone told me i should invite them to the party. i think not. back to the fucking. girls *do* say things like this. maybe andrew isn't talking to the right girls, or maybe they never say it around boys (well, all of them except me and the drunken autralian ones, i suppose). but the girls i know are very open about when they're lacking sexual fulfillment. which brings me to another point: am i a weirdo for listening to marvin gaye's "let's get it on" really loud in my car and singing along? i just think it's a good song, is all. i don't do it when anybody else is in the car with me. i just hope the cars in front of me aren't trying to read my lips in the rear view mirror. i've been reading a lot of dr seuss lately. that and grimm's fairy tales. i have that one big fat translation of all 3,500,000 stories or whatever. i like to just let it fall open and then flip pages until i reach the beginning of a story, then start reading. i like the creation myths the best. then again, i've always liked creation myths. there are a few stories in there that don't make any sense at all, and seem like the sort of thing a 6 year old would make up on the spot. in fact, i think i'll transcribe one and put it up on my webpage for everyone to read. i'll post the url as soon as i'm done. if any of you want to know ahead of time which story it is, it's "bunny rabbit's bride" and it's ridiculous. if you have the book i'm talking about, go read it now and laugh like you've never laughed before. or be completely bewildered. but if you're bewildered, laugh about that. it's good to laugh. should i be offended that the cinerama song "kerry kerry" is so unhappy? i would rather not have anything to do with the kerry in that song. i think it says bad things about kerrys all over the world. or would that be "kerries"? you know, like cherries. or carries. how sad -- i don't even know the plural form of my own name. so what originally was meant to be a short post about my comments on fucking turned into a dissertation. i should really be putting all this energy into something academic. but this is more fun. -kerry -kerry "here i am, this is me. i am yours and everything about me, everything you see . . . if you only look hard enough." -tindersticks, "my sister" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Fri Oct 22 19:35:12 1999 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:35:12 -0400 Subject: Sinister: bunny rabbit's bride Message-ID: So, like i said i would, i've transcribed that grimms' fairy tale, and stuck it up on the web. i know it's bad to post twice in the same day, and i hope honey doesn't kill me, but i said i would let you know when i put it up and lo and behold, i have. it's here: http://hamp.hampshire.edu/~kwl96/bunny.html it's funny and short. go read it now. -kerry +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From J.M.Taylor at xxx.uk Fri Oct 22 19:42:37 1999 From: J.M.Taylor at xxx.uk (Taylor JM) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 19:42:37 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: FOOTY / apologies / B&S (not really) in hospital / Marine Research in london Message-ID: DULL APOLOGIES firstly a long overdue sorry for what probably would win any award for the dullest longest 'post' that i sent a few months back. secondly, a slightly embarrassed & *confused* apology for any sinister-type who witnessed the product of my having consumed (scarily too few) beers, seen villa lose to sunderland with the help of classic crap refereeing, and being bored waiting for looper to appear. (& thanks ?? for tix via martin) i think my explanation for what in a work (mental health) setting i would readily lable 'bizarre & inappropriate' behaviour, was (i think/hope?) taking up a dare to shout mr popkins name across the heads of the chattering looper masses. or at least that'll do as an excuse. oh well, normal service will be resumed ASAP. jim (purple trousers & face) P.S. on a B&S content note, our beloveds have been regularly creating lovely art room vibes in my art & craft groups on the ward, and i have furthered my set of velvet underground figures made of clay (though definitely not lifesize). surely what art room tape decks are made for??? (along with joni mitchell's blue, and enough (generally patient's own) dub®gie to keep mr hopkins happy for many lifetimes.) The peak of our clients' non-existent b'n's frenzy, was my having printed out lyrics to 'fox in the snow' for a good old sing-a-long to tape bit of a music group when Steve Arlene (did you like the tape Sam?) couldn't make it to do the music group so i had to cobble together a last minute thingy. Of note, i've never had a negative reaction to B&S on the ward in two years of occasional brainwashing the punters, and have run off one or two copies.... which just goes to show what exquisite taste user's of the mental health service have. FOOTBALL So Sinister footy was suggested this weekend? anybody still up for it - give me a bell if you are PLEASE! 0171 690 9970 (as always check before venturing out rather than punching me, but: MARINE RESEARCH & BAXENDALE @ HQs CAMDEN SATURDAY 23/10/99 + i assume the fortnightly Northern Soulish/60's beat club afterwards - the one i dragged some of you along to after a pic-nic once. but i don't really know, plus it is camden week thingy innit? i'll be there and shall don said purple strides to make life (well probably more confusing for you judging on recent form) easier if you are in london and want to come and don't know anyone. + long hair, sidies + glasses + skinny tall git too. but then maybe there aren;t new londonish people - sorry i'm shit at reading the list. more than enough bye again jim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From guile at xxx.br Fri Oct 22 23:21:45 1999 From: guile at xxx.br (Guilherme Barrella) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:21:45 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Winnie Cooper Newsletter Message-ID: <3810E379.411E1E8B@telnet.com.br> Hello Sinisterines, I'm sorry to use the list for my own purposes but I want you to know that. It's my band and I'm very excited with all the things that are happening. gui Fans all over the world, Serenity Now: In October, 28th we'll be launching our brand new EP called "Serenity Now". The cd will have three unreleased songs and an acoustic version of "Voulez-Vous De Beurre". You can order your copy through our official web page (url at the bottom of this page). And be quick because the first 100 copies will be numbered and will have hand-drawings by our own guitarist-artist Breno. Pre-order your copy now. T-Shirts: The new design of the Winnie Cooper t-shirts are already available. With another beautiful hand-drawing by Breno, it comes in several colours and in a very cheap price. They're also available through our web page. Labels, Shows, Distributors: We are looking for some partners to distribute our cd through all over the world. We also willing to play on your very own lovely hometown. Oh, and if you own a label, or know someone who does, hire us. You can get in touch with us through our homepage. Web Page: http://www.angelfire.com/co2/winniecooper/homepage.html Thank you, don’t forget to tell all your friends. We are counting on you, because... "Winnie Cooper: We Make The Music, You Make The History" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From colinboy21 at xxx.com Sat Oct 23 04:39:37 1999 From: colinboy21 at xxx.com (colin thornton) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:39:37 PDT Subject: Sinister: all in the timing... Message-ID: <19991023033937.84399.qmail@hotmail.com> I have a theory about Belle & Sebastian and other bands with similar delicate musical/vocal complexities. It is nearly impossible to listen to well-crafted songs from Belle & Sebastian while people are conversing or socializing. In fact, the more distracted a person is during a B&S song, the more they become annoyed by the music... because B&S requires a certain concentration (especially for those who are new to the style). I get so mad when people (like my older brother) insist on listening to Sheryl Crow type shit in the car, instead of my favorites. But Sheryl Crow is crappy enough to have a discussion over, isn't it? You'd think that at age 21, I would have a musical-say on a silly car-trip. But I'm sabotoging my conservative brother with good music: I gave him Wilco "Summerteeth" for his Birthday. An angry temper can almost destroy the B&S listening experience; frustration + "Fox in the Snow" for most people will poison opinions of B&S if they are taken too early in the musical relationship. Is anybody else very careful about whom they introduce B&S to? I mean, you really have to be careful because soft and twee can become explosive in the wrong hands. Some quick questions (and I'm sorry if they've been asked before): 1. Which author dedicated which book to a "Century of Fakers" (or is this another fictional lyric)? Is there really a book called _The State that I am In_? 2. Are the rumours true that B&S don't get along very well? Have they really been fighting, and did they really have an argument on stage that reduced Stuart to tears? Does anybody else find it disconcerting that one of the band members describes B&S as "dysfunctional"? 3. Is there a certain general B&S fashion style, such as glasses and cardigan? Just wondering... 4. Why does Tigermilk sound 100 times better in the car? To end, I'm happy because I discovered Beulah (especially song #5), Harry Potter books, and American Beauty all in the same month! I will see "Fight Club" next because I'm am the definitive socialist-poser; political and economical rebellion makes the story of Stuart and gang much more fascinating. Down with capitalism, eh? Somewhere on the flip-side, Colin St. Clair ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From markniciu at xxx.com Sat Oct 23 04:54:21 1999 From: markniciu at xxx.com (Mark Niciu) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:54:21 PDT Subject: Sinister: Attention: Ms. Other Music in NYC today around 5 P.M. Message-ID: <19991023035516.64712.qmail@hotmail.com> I may be condemned to the loser list after this post, but something splendid happened to me today. I was meandering in the Village searching for some tunes for the weekend and intent on purchasing Felt's "Forever Breathes the Lonely Word". The only record store in the Village to sell this record, to my knowledge, was Other Music (15 E 4th St.) at the expensive price of approximately $25.00. Suffice it to say, I do not typically have this quantity of dough to spend on a single record, but I made the exception for Lawrence. Regardless, I was sojourning in Other Music's La Decadanse (whatever the hell that means!) section which contains Felt's records, but "Forever Breathes the Lonely Word" was nowhere in sight. I was distraught but reluctantly continued to browse among the other Felt releases in stock. Next, I heard an Other Music employee directioning a customer in the direction of the Felt section. But I continued to browse with another set of hands to contend with in the tight confines of Other Music. I thought it polite to initiate conversation with my fellow Felt fan and said, "So, you like Felt too?" I looked up expecting a reply, and, to my delight, I gazed upon one of the cutest members of the opposite sex that I've ever had the pleasure to see. She had dark brown locks fashioned into a twee bob haircut with bangs to about to the middle of her forehead (incidentally, girls, I think that bangs are absolutely darling and it's a shame that so few of you currently sport this haircut ) and wearing a sky blue jumper beneath a brownish wool coat. And she had the most gorgeous blue eyes that I've ever laid eyes upon. Eyes that instantly make you forget the question that you had just asked and, evidentally, have the ineffable power to make me prattle about Felt incessantly, as I proceeded to spew comment after comment about every Felt item in stock, e.g. "Absolute Classic Masterpieces" vols. I and II, "Crumbling the Antiseptic Beatuty/The Splendour of Fear", and "Me and a Monkey on the Moon." I recommended which albums to buy and in which order, the quality (or lack thereof) of Lawrence's vocals on each release, the Deebank Felt vs. the Duffy Felt, and Felt's influence on subsequent groups like Belle and Sebastian. In retrospect, I haven't the slighest indication whether my erudition impressed her or created the impression that I'm merely a pretentious prig. Whether it was apparent to Ms. Other Music or not, my loquacity regarding Lawrence and crew was directly attributable to the fact that I could think of absolutely nothing else to blab about. Nonetheless, at my request, she purchased "Absolute Classic Masterpieces" vol. 2, as she had previosuly heard "Strange Idol Patterns and Other Short Stories" and seemed to like Lawrence's poppier side. After her purchase, we parted company and exchanged good-byes. I concluded our dialogue with the cheezy line "It was nice to meet another Felt fan". A sure way to pick-up the ladies, eh? Nevertheless, we never exchanged names and, immediately after she left, I thought of a thousand ways to continue our discussion, e.g. "If you have an e-mail, I can mail you the addresses of web sites with Felt info." But I am such a dim-witted goofball that this didn't even occur to me at the time! To cut to the chase, even if you've read little to none of the above, please read this. Ms. Other Music is probably an NYU student, and, when I inquired about how she heard of Lawrence and company, she mentioned that her friend owned "Strange Idols Pattern...". Therefore, if you go to NYU or live in the Village, and a friend fits the description mentioned above and comes bragging about the brilliance of Martin Duffy's keyboarding on "Absolute Classic Masterpieces" vol. 2., please forward her this e-mail! But if that twee Felt kitten is reading this post, then, if you're interested in me or just Lawrence, please respond by email (markniciu at hotmail.com)! And, in case your wondering why in the world I am posting this to Belle and Sebastian lists, many new fans have discovered Felt through the influence of Belle and Sebastian's lyrics and liner notes. Chances are that if Ms. Other Music's friend likes Felt, she probably listens to B&S as well and, fortuitously, is a member of a B&S list. If you've read all this, then you have my sincere apologies for the exposure to my histrionics. "Shyness can stop you from doing all the things in life that you'd like to." Morrissey Mark ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Sat Oct 23 08:44:51 1999 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 03:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: stuart & stuart Message-ID: It shouldn't have been for Belle to be the cheese to his dill pickle. It should have been Stuart and Stuart all along, like John and Paul. I like "Century of Elvis". It reminds me of the place where I live. I need reminding. Yesterday there was frost on my windshield when I was going to school and a man tapped on my window while I was trying to read the parking sign and said that his wife was having a baby and he needed a dollar. He said of the people he had approached before "... and they look at me like I'm black". But he was. It was a very interesting rhetorical device. It was strange. I hadn't thought to feel afraid until he said that. But these aren't the sort of things that the song reminds me of. We have a garden in the back and last week he came over and called my attention to the lavender growing in it, but this week he looks at me like I'm strange and leaves the office whenever I arrive. So the song reminds me of the good things like the garden and the lavender and the woodchuck that occasionally shows up and the two squirrels who are his cronies. It's true that you can't listen to the song too often, but it's like the difference between poetry and prose, rereading a book and - well you wouldn't even say rereading a poem. But don't you think near miracles could happen if they truly collaborated? (They might already but I don't think it's likely.) See the difference with Stuart is that the reports of what he is like in person is completely at odds with his sensibility as a songwriter, so you can't just accuse of being charming or t - well I always feel awkward using words like that. Have you seen the film "Naked"? I guess it was shown at Bowlie. Do you remember the man who never wanted to grow old? And there was David Thewlis looking - I was going to say old but I think he looked nice. The saintly haggard look suited him. So in hell everyone will look like a teenage boy and in heaven like Jesus. But I can see the temptation in it. I love the ache in Lloyd Cole's voice on songs like "Her Last Fling". Lawrence sings like that on "Birdmen" and "Indians". +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tigermilk1 at xxx.com Sun Oct 24 03:09:53 1999 From: tigermilk1 at xxx.com (Elizabeth Arnott) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 21:09:53 EST Subject: Sinister: we're all sluts on the inside Message-ID: <19991023110954.77151.qmail@hotmail.com> If you like Joan of Arc, then you'd also like Rainer maria and Ida! Cheers, Liz of Arc >Well that is obviously not the same band, Joan of Arc are from Chicago and >have released one of this years most interesting albums, Live In Chicago, >1999 (no, not a live album). Actually, criticts has called Joan of Arc for >Joan of Crap or Jocks of Arc (the later because they had a basketball in >their tour van...). Anyone on this list loves Tim Kinsella's ex band caP'n >Jazz? They are wonderful. > >I used to sing and played the horn in a band that covered their "Troubled >By Insects" and "Rocky Rococo", under the name The Agents of the Secret >Service, or as our concert posters said, the A.S.S., but when we got on >stage we called ourselves the Twisted Buttfuckers. Oh it was all a joke >though... Mostly rebelionship against the grunge and heavy metal kids that >came to the gig who were all like fucked up when we got on stage with suits >and a breifcase with the mic in (like the Blues Brothers) and put the mic >so it pointed up in the air so two could sing in it... And in the >background we Good Vibrations... I tell you, it was one of the most fun >things I have ever done. A moment of pop star-hood. > >Johan. >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sat Oct 23 12:32:54 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 07:32:54 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Thai-Died Computer Message-ID: <199910230733_MC2-8A13-BC31@compuserve.com> Hi All, I had some comments about squirrels but I will suppress them as I fear this may all end in tears. So, just warm & peaceful greetings from the beautiful Oon, who has asked me to apologise to anyone she owes posts to as her computer has apparently suffocated from ingesting too many spiders. Normal service will be resumed as sOon as possible. Lets hope we all keep our souls, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sat Oct 23 12:39:14 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:39:14 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Thrills, Pills and Berryache Message-ID: <01bf1d4b$3c34a8e0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> My women, my women... A sinister strctly for the ladies' night? Bongs, hotknives, sputniks, buckets... and that's before they even take their coats off. I've been reading Chickfactor, and I know what kind of thing goes on at Berry Towers. Drugs, drugs and more drugs. And devil eggs. I wish I could go too. I bought a record by Taj Mahal. I haven't listened to it yet though. But I think it's great that pop stars name themselves after buildings. We could have Albert Hall, Sydney Opera House, Clyde Auditorium (the singing orangutan) and Donny Sthorpe Miners' Welfare. Great! Trousers wrote: Why does Peter Miller never tell us when he's about to come to Britain? Does he have something to hide? It was a quick in and out job, Trousers, something you're increasingly familiar with, by the sounds of things. Arrival on Saturday, departure on Sunday. My only opportunity for a Sinster meet and greet would have been in the gents' at Heathrow. It was my mummy's birthday. I got to see my niece, who is only two and a half, but already talks more sense than the entire Sinister list put together. And yes, I've got plenty to hide, just like the troubled narrator of "Nalda Said", according to Nick's cutting: As he grows up Nalda goes mad and he stumbles into an itinerant life, always upping and offing, fearful that his secret will emerge - he still carries the jewel inside him. What - up his bum or something? Sounds promising. The title reminds me of "Bill Drummond Said" by Julian Cope. I just thought I'd share that with you. I don't think the reviewer should have used the word "loonies" to refer to loonies - "menkos" would have sufficed. So much for "passages of rare compassion". Reviews of rare hypocrisy more like. He must think we're all mongols. Trousers also asked about former pop stars in normal jobs. Keith once told us that one of The Belle Stars or Amazulu or something had started work at his company. Is she still there, Keith? If so, tell her that her "Sign of the Times" is better than Prince's. It's not true, but it'll make her day. "Q Magazine" has a feature along the lines of "where are they now?" Sometimes it's quite sad. "We could've been a contender!". This week it's the Tygers of Pan Tang. I haven't read it yet. Trousers also talked about the general crapness of magazines. I must agree. How much does a track on the free CD plus corking review inside "Uncut" cost? What's more, the language is disgusting! Just look at this litany of filth, included in two short reviews on page 132, credited to a shadowy figure known only as "RMcT": wankers, arse, masturbation, todgers, dick. Bring back Tiswas. Kipper Clarke, can we have some more of your fluffosophy please? I feel that you've been neglecting us lately. In my village, all the Clarkes were called Kipper, at least the male ones were. So you had Kipper Clarke, Kipper Clarke, Kipper Clarke, Brenda Clarke and Diane Clarke all in the same family. Is it the same in Preston? lots of love, Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ThisSuffering at xxx.com Sat Oct 23 13:39:21 1999 From: ThisSuffering at xxx.com (ThisSuffering at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 08:39:21 EDT Subject: Sinister: i get a sugar rush.. Message-ID: <0.89712bfc.25430679@aol.com> dearest sinisterees.. i'm curious in finding more of ''my kind'' in the los angeles area, so i can chat it up with you locally.. please send reply you local popstars! cheers carlos xoxox +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erici at xxx.au Sat Oct 23 15:57:42 1999 From: erici at xxx.au (Eric Ireland) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 00:57:42 +1000 Subject: Sinister: love and other catastrophies Message-ID: <199910231459.AAA19520@new-smtp2.ihug.com.au> hi sinisterines, i haven't posted before, so i will introduce myself. my name is eric, i am a student, and i live a quiet life at home in the suburbs of sydney with my parents, my dog and my record collection. and i think belle and sebastian are probably the best band in the world, although the pastels are up there too in my book. now that i've got that off my chest.. i was just going to say, lauren of the u.s.a. was asking about the movie "love and other catastrophies" and said it was english. it's actually australian. it's a nice movie isn't it? it was pretty popular here. it was made on a very low budget apparently but i think it gave it a nice "fresh" feel. i have to say, my experience of the student life-style hasn't been much like in the movie. i won't go into that though. :) one of my favourite movies is gregory's girl. i recommend that to everyone! eric. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Sat Oct 23 17:29:58 1999 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 16:29:58 GMT Subject: Sinister: Let's pretend we're bunny rabbits Message-ID: <3811d982.244623@post.demon.co.uk> Good Afternoon Sinister, I've just been watching the viddy printer announcing a very pleasing set of football results. Apart from my beloved City consolidating their position on top of Div 1, and Spurs doing the right thing, I was struck by an extraordinary news from the Highland League. Keith 3 Cove Albion 4. Is this true? Is the real reason for the relative silence from our own lovable moptop and nightclub entreprenuer that he's been making inroads into non-league football? It's an impressive result anyway, scoring 3 goals against 11 men all on his own. It's been a fun-packed last three days, we went to see Guided by Voices on Thursday, a band I know precious little about. But they rocked in the old fashioned way, well-aware of the humour, but without being all insincere and postmodern about it. Very entertaining. For some reason a little voice kept screaming "Cheap Trick" in my mind, but I silenced it with cheap speed and glue. Wumpkinny has committed a supreme act of treachery by fraternising with known members of Droolz this weekend. I would have taken Andy Dean up on his offer to spend the weekend watching the rugby with him, Trews, Mike and Tim and scratching our crotches. Our own, not each others, you understand. But last time we did that Tim started crying because someone had fallen over and Tim reckoned it looked "hurty", while Andy kept begging we play soggy biscuit and lighting his own farts. Roolz' very own Boutros Bourtros Sven-gali, Kevan Cooke attempted to lead poor Genevieve astray by writing a pack of half-truths about French pop. Remember, Gen, rock managers are notorious liars, don't believe any of it. He also praised the Magnetic Fields and their "Sandinista"esque triple album. That bit was true, normally I'd keep well away from songs about bunny rabbits, but when they succeed in being both saucy and romantic, then I'm sold. Last night I went to see "The Blair witch project" with Big Poppa Warrander John, the fragrant Emma, and love's young dream, JJ and Rachel. I liked it. I liked it a lot. My knees were shaking baby, my heart it beat like a drum. We need more people like Kerry, and less whinging adolescents on this list. Just my opinion ~ Love tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mcb625 at xxx.com Sun Oct 24 00:31:43 1999 From: Mcb625 at xxx.com (Mcb625 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 19:31:43 EDT Subject: Sinister: Sneaky Feelings Message-ID: <0.3965f6d0.25439f5f@aol.com> Please don't be too hard on the *wingeing adolescents*, they need the list more than anyone...whinge away, you lovely young people, he was just kidding... Brandt, it would be a shame for you and her to allow inertia, shyness and the fear of unknown developments in the future to cause you to let what could be *the relationship* for both of you pass you by...it's like not learning to drive a car 'cause you might get a traffic ticket someday (well, maybe not exactly, but you know what I mean)....you two have to weigh the risk of kicking yourself forever over *the one that got away* against the risk that the future might not keep you together at all times...the first risk is real and will happen (that you CAN guarantee); the second might happen and might not.... Be brave, Brandt, and all the lovely Sinister-listers, from Uncle Dan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tim at xxx.uk Sun Oct 24 01:35:46 1999 From: tim at xxx.uk (Tim Gardner) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 01:35:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: List Abuse Message-ID: <000201bf1e28$8058eda0$a99e883e@dan> Right, this probably counts as list abuse but I'm only going to do it once. If you don't wanna read possible abuse of this fine list then delete this mail now. To the business in hand... Doing anything on Saturday November 6th? Well if not then come to Glasgow, the 13th Note Cafe in King Street to be precise, to the Short Fuse Records pop music extravaganza. Starring: The Chemistry Experiment, NME and Evening Session faves (also hated by Record Collector), once billed as Belle & Sebastian baiters. Although quite why we're not sure. Best selling band at the Bowlie Weekender y'know. Much beloved by The Butterflies Of Love...awww. My Legendary Girlfriend, not a Pulp tribute band or named after the book. Really. Could have been Dexy's Midnight Runners, if Dexy's had been an electro-romo ska group with a penchant for The Police, ties and Blake's 7. Smudge Dolby, melting guitars and sinister smiles. I haven't heard much by them but I'm told that they're really good. It all kicks off at nine in the evening and costs a measly £2. Sorry, I'll go now. Sorry. I really didn't mean to offend anyone. Sorry. Bye. Tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Niceaction at xxx.com Sun Oct 24 18:28:31 1999 From: Niceaction at xxx.com (Niceaction at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 13:28:31 EDT Subject: Sinister: A year in the life Message-ID: <0.95fd2cdb.25449bbf@aol.com> Well kids. It's been very nearly a year since i travelled from here in Brighton over to New York to see our own B&S play... twice... This also makes it almost one year since i posted to the list. To celebrate this fact that i am one of the biggest lurkers here, i thought i would write to you all. What do i write about ??? The urge to shoot Struan unless he gets his arse in gear with new stuff ??? a funny story about what happened to me on the bus ??? tales of why i hate my boss so much ??? Nope. this year has been the best year of my life. So delete now if you dont want to know some of the things that has made me so happy. I've seen the emergence of new bands who have made me think music hasn't gone to poo. Bands such as Ooberman, Godspeed you Black Emperor, Tim Keegan and Departure Lounge and Spearmint. I've also seen Hefner become one of my favourite's. I read Young and Foolish - a personal pop odyssey - by Alistair Fitchitt, which inspired me to seek out such bands as the Spinines, Eggs, Tsunami and the Working Holiday / Simple Machines various artists cd's. And also gave me intellectual reasons to tell people why The Go Betweens were always better than The Smiths. Ive seen internet shopping get easier, cheaper and safer. allowing me to purchase the previous items. I attended a weekend holiday camp which was full with people who have the same interests, and showed bands which will never again play the same venue again. I attended a B&S picnic for the first time. I saw the re-release of Tigermilk, of which i also purchased an original copy. I got a new job. I've seen the Sinister List grow from 400 to 1147 i have allowed myself to grow my sideburns to a length which is completely stupid and almost criminal. i've seen the Field Mice get a double CD re-release, making it the best record of last year by a mile. i had tears in my eyes when i first heard Slow Graffiti. I've seen Belle and Sebastian win a Brit Award and really piss off my friends and Pete Waterman. I saw a new Star Wars film at the cinema, and also saw Life is Beautiful. The best film about the war to come out of Italy. I saw Robert Forster and Grant McLennan share the same stage together, making that the best gig. and last but not least.. i fell in love. Until next year Jamie x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redden at xxx.com Sun Oct 24 18:43:32 1999 From: redden at xxx.com (danielle redden) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 13:43:32 -0400 Subject: Sinister: an array of things and lots of arse-smooching Message-ID: i have just read 142 sinister posts. this is what happens when i go away for a week. my goodness you are a prolific lot. i just learned that my boy i met at the bowlie will be flying across the ocean to come visit me for my birthday. oh sigh. you british boys are such charmers really. b&s content: last week i was rumaging through some records at one of the few stores in philly that sell vinyl and i came across tigermilk and written in black marker on the plastic sleeve was: "the re-released first lp from the most pretentious fucking band that everybody fucking loves" huh? i left the store empty handed and a bit frightened. american metal head boys who own record stores can be so hostile sometimes. oh and someone wrote: >>>someone else: >wow. i really need a fuck. *sigh* >>>my mouth is opening and closing and no sound is >>>coming out. girls don't say things like this. oh please. although it isnt particularly fashionable for girls to be blunt, a few of us say what is on our mind at times. you boys have had the luxury of freely doing so for SO long, us girls thought it would only be fair of we joined in too. i really need a glass of wine. love danielle p.s. listen to tim and go see the chemisrty experiment. lovely music and the nicest people outside the new world, including tim himself who i dont think liked me much when we first met, however has now learned to put up with my obnoxiousness and give me a chance. Whaat!!! Have you tried The Doghouse??! Get your FREE WEB-BASED EMAIL account at: http://doghousemail.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Sun Oct 24 19:52:46 1999 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 14:52:46 -0400 Subject: Sinister: subject? there is none. Message-ID: so my weekend is coming to a close. my parents have gone back to chicago, the surprise party was a success (tho not a surprise, sadly, i'll get into that later), my parents bought me books and music because alas i have not the cash to do it myself, i didn't see seth, and now i have work to do. my parents were a hit with the people i live with. never in previous years have i sat down and talked with my parents and the people i live with. either i don't like the people i live with or they're not around. but last night we sat about in my living room chatting with my housemates and some of their friends for an hour or so. they all thought my parents were great and wished they'd stuck around for the party. apparently when my folks were leaving last night (i was up in my room at the time) my dad saw everyone putting out the liquor and said "do you have any jagermeister?" strange, i didn't know my dad liked jagermeister. he may have been joking. enough about my 'rents. the party was good. apparently the boy whose birthday it was (mat) knew about it ahead of time. his ex girlfriend who had been invited emailed him last week saying she was sorry that she wouldn't be able to make it to his big party on saturday. d'oh. but the stripper was a surprise, and that's good. she was very nervous beforehand, but loosened up once she started dancing, and even danced with mat's girlfriend (who hired her) for a bit. it was all very sexy and mat was doing his best not to look at her boobies. i danced a lot last night, probably mostly because it was my own house so i could smoke inside while i danced, etc. there were lots of people there we didn't know, and that was unfortunate. and they seemed really intent on grinding up onto me, but what the hell? i'll never see them again. (knowning my luck they'll start visiting my house a lot or something). later in the evening my friend kim says to me that she noted i had been dancing a lot, in particular with this one boy dressed in red, so she asked this boy's friend if he was a good egg or not. she told me apparently he's a very nice boy. i laughed, and she said she was just looking out for me. very nice, but i had no intentions of doing anything more than dance with this kid. and one moment was so perfect i immortalized it in an ink polaroid, which i will now type here: possibly how i'll remember this semester best, this one was taken at mat's 21st birthday party. it's all of the girls i live with, dancing and bouncing and singing to "video killed the radio star." trite, i know, but truly the highlight of the girls' portion of the evening. we're standing in a circle, laura in the black shirt and red-black leopard print vinyl pants, cat in the tight black dress, kim in the black top and red skirt, me in a black strappy tank top and blue pinstriped pants with my studded leather belt. it's a special occasion when kim decides to dance, and there we are, all dancing together and laughing. --- so that's that. the night wasn't all fun, though. i learned something i had suspected but didn't want to know. see, there's this boy that visits here on weekends a lot. he graduated from UMass last year, and he's mat's closest friend from vermont, so on the weekends he comes here and parties with us and stays in our guest bedroom (third floor landing filled with a mattress and blankets). anyway, last night cat told me he was "really hot" for me, and it made me super uncomfortable. i'd suspected it for a while, but since i'm not attracted to him i just ignored it. but it became very hard to last night when he insisted on putting his arm around my waist. he even asked me how i "handle being such a hot girl." flattering, yes, but also very very very uncomfortable for me. i know this kid, and i don't want to hurt his feelings. cat told me to hurt his feelings, but that's because she's mad at him. i don't want to do that. but i think by the end of the evening he'd gotten the idea even if just from me avoiding his roaming hands . . . oh, but that's enough of that. i've probably taken up an entire digest with my ramblings. if any of you care, the music i bought yesterday was (in alphabetical order): bis "social dancing," built to spill "keep it like a secret," merle haggard "16 biggest hits" (shut up, you're not allowed to make fun of me. i just bought it for "okie from muskogee", anyway. besides, i've been on a country kick and they didn't have any tammy wynette at the record store), lamb "fear of fours," and tindersticks "simple pleasure" (finally! i've never had the $25 to spend on it, since there's no american release i had to get it on import). so that's the music i bought. the only books i bought were a replacement copy of _the joke_ by milan kundera and the new translation of _laughable loves_, also by kundera. i'd been waiting for a new translation of that for years, so i didn't buy it because i wanted to make sure it was as accurate as possible. and finally they made a new one. yay! i know what i'll be doing when i'm done with my work this afternoon (reading _laughable loves_, for those of you who didn't get that). unfortunately _nalda said_ wasn't available at the bookstore in town, but they said they'll be getting it in eventually. good. haven't really gotten to listen to my new music much, though. i'm stuck on listening to built to spill's "twin falls idaho" repeatedly. i just like the reference to 7up (the game, not the soft drink). it's too sweet (the song, not the drink). -kerry p.s.: nobody ever touched my thumb when we played 7up in elementary school. it still makes me sad to think about it. "Thank goodness for all of the things you are not thank goodness you're not something someone forgot, and left all alone in some punkerish place like a rusty tin coat hanger hanging in space." -dr. seuss, "did i ever tell you how lucky you are?" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ISawUfall at xxx.com Sun Oct 24 20:06:33 1999 From: ISawUfall at xxx.com (ISawUfall at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:06:33 EDT Subject: Sinister: LOVE: How does one find what they know s'lil about Message-ID: <0.234b3304.2544b2b9@aol.com> i just woke up from a dream. in it i was running about my university campus, and around the streets with shops up above, with this girl i really like. in fact, i think she is extremely beautiful....just drop-dead, wilts-my every-last-flower-i-could-ever-have-to-offer-you kinda beautiful. in the dream i found that this girl and i were just dizzy with something, i know not what. but it was perfect and we were holding hands, running and smiling. i dont think we exchanged any words but it was if she was saying she loved me, over and over. with her each look and laugh, in this dream, i felt it. i knew it. now i am awake. and she has this boyfriend. i think i often try to forget that. whats worse she'll remind me of the fact that i was present when they first kissed. indeed under a lonesome pinetree playing a guitar i didnt reaally know how to play b/w these two dorms when i asked two snuggling bastards for a light. ungh! and whenever i pay her a compliment she always thinking im "making fun of her." how lame is that. i cant seem to make myself clear to this girl. i ask you: do i tell this girl how i feel? (carpe diem, as it were) or do i repress my emotions once again, knowing they ultimately bring more abject sorrow than anything good? is there any one better way to go? could a dream that felt so right and well really be nothing more than a tempting vice? what if what i felt in the dream was what we can feel if we just want it? perhaps, we just want more in dreams. any advice. maybe one of you have dreamt the same thing and done something/nothing about it? give me something.... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ThisSuffering at xxx.com Mon Oct 25 01:03:58 1999 From: ThisSuffering at xxx.com (ThisSuffering at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 20:03:58 EDT Subject: Sinister: walk around till its light outside Message-ID: <0.44f37bc9.2544f86e@aol.com> dear sinisterees as we come to the conclusion of yet another week together, just thought i'd post up my weekend. friday night was a splendid evening, of.. getting stood up. saturday evening, i attended a rave here in california, and i must say, i had a pretty good time.. despite all the hip hop, and break beats.. the jungle was really good, and in all that crowd of people to my suprise a girl in the crowd was wearing a belle and sebastian badge on her backpack. my new best friend for the evening. she was quite interesting in her field of knowledge of the band, im glad that someone could challenge me in knowledge of my favorite band! so we danced, we rolled, and that's it. who knows what today brings.. by the way i hear that some of the members in belle and sebastian spin, any overseas sinisterees could direct me to what kind of music it is they play? cheers carlos xoxoxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_leak at xxx.uk Mon Oct 25 10:40:58 1999 From: chris_leak at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?CHRIS=20LEAK?=) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:40:58 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Hiccups Message-ID: <19991025094058.21528.rocketmail@web1301.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Thanks to all those who mailed hiccup remedies. I have finally managed to get them under control. After 4 days, only a few hours sleep,the occasional period of non-hiccuping, a visit to casualty, my GP (who prescribed an angina spray!) and a call to the NHS Health Line, I was finally given a cure!!!!! Whats the more, the drug prescribed is also given (in higher dosage) to paranoid schizophrenic and people suffering other mental disorders!! Call it vanity but there is something self satisfying from having suffered from what is normally a minor ailment to the degree of having to take said sedative!! They were actually quite pleasant to take and I have several left for a rainy day!! Byeee Leaky What a weekend ===== ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u01cjtc at xxx.uk Mon Oct 25 12:13:29 1999 From: u01cjtc at xxx.uk (Colin Campbell) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:13:29 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: The spinning dead dogs of dundee Message-ID: I drove through dundee on friday and in the middle of the road saw a spinning dog. It was shocking, yet at the same time i laughed, but it was then hit by an articulated lorry, so I think it's dead now. It had its legs stuck out and it was just spinning round like a catherine wheel. No point to this message just felt like telling one thousand odd folk. Also since thursday i've heard lazy line painter jane 3 times outside of my house, strange huh? colin. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From messentw at xxx.uk Mon Oct 25 12:25:00 1999 From: messentw at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?William=20Messent?=) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:25:00 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: The Robin Hood of Sinister Message-ID: <19991025112500.1416.rocketmail@web302.mail.yahoo.com> Hello there ladies and gents. Well it's been a while, but I shan't apologise. I've had a week off work and snooker's been on. I watched just about every bastard game but missed the final last night, which sounds like it was a stormer. Sad to see Ronnie knocked out, and my second favourite Anthony Hamilton went didn't make the semis either. Anthony is from Nottingham, and is thus referred to by Dougie Donnelly as 'The Robin Hood of Snooker'. Nice. The boy retained his world ranking at number 10 so good luck to him. I was assured that the final would be on at the pub, so I went along, only to find rugby on telly. I was very proud to watch the England boys defend our country's honour. I would have enjoyed it much more, however, if rugby were not an incomprehensible game played solely by fat puffs.* We supported Mogwai in Manchester despite having been drinking heavily all day. Bit of a drunken argument onstage but I don't think that anybody noticed. I had never met them before but a lovely bunch of guys and big drinkers to boot. Hats off. I am still deaf in one ear after their show mind you. It was good to be back in Nottingham as well for a few days. Helped my mate Joe move into a big new house, and took me Dad's dog for a walk around the Uni campus. I kept an eye out for Arantxa and Robin but to no avail. It's fairly shit going back to work after a holiday isn't it? Chin up popkids, Love Will x *Copyright Viz comic. Sorry. ===== Visit The Remote Viewer homepage http://www.members.tripod.com/remoteviewer/ ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com Mon Oct 25 12:56:04 1999 From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 04:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: how do you get people to look at your letter when they have 30 others to look at .... AH-HA - you write "bum" Message-ID: <19991025115604.14260.rocketmail@web1403.mail.yahoo.com> so tag, do I qualify as a "whinging adolescent"? I got fever...... I got that caaaard fever. For some strange reason I decided to send e-cards to many many many people on friday. men tossing toilets indeed... colin thorton mentioned about b&s in the car. When I was on holiday this year, I put my b&s compilation tape on the stereo, and my brother when absolubtley rat arsed metal at me, making childish comments about all the songs. eg - judy+the horses "bloody horses my arse... what , is that judy a zoophile" he thought for a while that stuM was a girl, because he's got a high pitched voice. I told him that Stu actually had a vice attached to his balls at birth, and this is what caused the voice. he tried to put on some dance music, but I pointed out that dance music is only there to dance to , and you can't really dance in a car, can you? Some people asked for the competition entries to the "b&s related slag" to be aired. I second that - I want everyone to know how dirty minded and purile certain people on the list (namely me) can be. my entry was scary? All I did was quote "you're sitting with your mouth wide open", inserted something in the middle, then ended with "everybody was glad that he came" how about a glasgow haloween meetup.... we could see some horror movies..... or not. I love you all, especially YOU!!!! (yes you, starring at the computer screen). babychris CRYSTALBALLS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From swanarama at xxx.com Mon Oct 25 13:41:50 1999 From: swanarama at xxx.com (Amanda Bergman) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 05:41:50 PDT Subject: Sinister: thinking about crossing the pond? Message-ID: <19991025124150.4864.qmail@hotmail.com> from New York to London? I got my American Airlines NetSaver fares email this morning and you can fly roundtrip from New York-London Heathrow for $399 (including tax, I think) as long as you: - Depart Thursday, November 4, 1999 or Friday, November 5, 1999 - Return anytime the following Monday, November 8, 1999 or Tuesday, November 9, 1999 and book up your ticket by Thursday, October 28 at midnight. Call 800-344-6702(the American Airlines toll-free number) or book through your travel agent. Just thought I'd pass on this information to anyone contemplating a transatlantic excursion. I've already got mine planned for that weekend. :) If I call this a Public Service Announcement, will Honey let me get away with not having any, um, content? ;) Bon Voyage, sinisterines, Amanda x . . .. . .. . .. . . "If someone steals your cab, then it wasn't your cab." --from _Taxi Driver Wisdom_ visit >>Red Roses for Me<< fanzine http://www.redrosesforme.co.uk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.alder at xxx.uk Mon Oct 25 14:46:36 1999 From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:46:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: You've got the chip shop, I've got the swings Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F3352742@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk> Golly - I haven't posted for a whole eleven days but, being the blush-some sort, I felt the need to be a bit coy and lay low for a while. Anyway... Yum - I've just polished off an enormo-box of Marks & Spencer's sushi which I washed down with a bottle of their top class freshly squeezed orange and raspberry juice. My tummy feels a bit bloated, but I am feeling nicely satisfied, all in all. The sushi came with a teeny bottle of soy sauce in the shape of a fishy and I've now decided to start a collection of mini soy bottles. I really need some new stuff to put around my computer. At the moment I have a little plastic guitar, a plastic butterfly, a barbie sticker, 15 Phantom Menace games from packets of Walkers Crisps and 4 Qubix, also courtesy of Walkers. The fishy is a nice addition, but he looks a bit lost and needs a friend. Reading back over that list, though, I do wonder what impression of me you get from knowing what stuff I have around me all day. SUCCESS! I was talking to my sister (DKNY trainer girl) at the weekend and she casually slipped into the conversation the following: "I was playing your Belle & Sebastian tape to my friend the other day..." Naturally I was a tad surprised that she had taken the bait so easily (the bait being the tape which I had casually left in the stereo in her car the previous week), so I asked if she played it much. "Yes," she replied, "now and again I do". I smiled a little smile to myself and left the tape in the car again this week. I was just wondering if the Narrow Wizard still leaves a faint smell of cinammon the day after he's had a curry and a few lagers. Or does he smell a bit farty? And finally, ladies and gents, there has been much talk of late regarding the practice of spectacle wearing and its influence on members of the opposite sex. Being a four-eyed monster myself, I would have to agree with the motion that glasses are an incredibly attractive thing. However, when two pairs are found in close proximity, the sound of clashing plastic is frequently to be heard and it is not particularly conducive to the romantic mood. I feel rather fondly towards contacts now. Juicy Lucy =================================================== This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From simongooch at xxx.uk Mon Oct 25 14:34:42 1999 From: simongooch at xxx.uk (Simon Gooch) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:34:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: *NOT* Simon Gooch at all but Rory! Message-ID: <000c01bf1eed$c7c01540$f72b893e@mqeywdzn> Good afternoon sinister, Off work today due to a case of suspected trenchfoot brought on by carrying CD mixers about in the torrential rain whilst sporting a pair of Neil from the young ones shoes (letting in water etc). Any rich tea or sympathy you may feel inclined to gently lob my way would be greatly appreciated. Blimey what a surreal weekend! I spent most of Saturday night playing very slow, very quiet B&S songs very, very LOUDLY in the middle of a hideous trance club in a desperate attempt to piss off as many crusties as possible. Do I qualifiy for some sort of award for this? Your average hippie punter tends to look very confused when you mix from the theme to 'Minder' into 'Your made me forget my dreams' at four in the morning (heh-heh). I also got in to a big barney rumble with the members of a fairy puppet mime troupe. In costume. I've discovered that it's quite difficult to keep up a constant barrage of swear words when the man you're swearing at is dressed as a tree. Good to be back, StayLuckyRoryxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Tigerxdare at xxx.com Mon Oct 25 15:01:36 1999 From: Tigerxdare at xxx.com (Tigerxdare at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:01:36 EDT Subject: Sinister: must be the colors and the kids that keep me alive Message-ID: <0.b576f03.2545bcc0@aol.com> good morning my dearest sinisterees, i hope you all had a good weekend. ok first off i just have to ask, didnt the people in love and other catastophies have english accents? even though it is australian i swear those were not australian accents! please somebody enlighten me. it has been driving me absolutely crazy... i saw american beauty this weekend, oh my gosh it was sooo f-ing good! everyone must go out and see it. i think it was the best movie i have been to see in a long time. also i saw that the movie boys don't cry got excellent reviews and it is now my goal to see it this week. and the added bonus is that is has the lovely *chloe sevigny* in it. she is just so gosh darn cute... ok just to let everyone know, i am talking to jygsaw dave and i can assure you all he is still alive, even though i thought he'd been kidnapped or gone into sinister hiding... my friend from delaware came to visit me this weekend. and we were in his car and he has always been known for liking quality music, so he put in a tape and told me i would love the band. i said i dont know, the name is sort of weird , it doenst sound like anything i would like, but sure enough he popped in the tape and i was taken aback at the beauty and in awe of this band that are called godspeed you black emperor. it is my goal to buy their stuff today, as well as get a catpower album. i absloltely adore catpower, i have been listeing to her more than anything else lately...there is a halloween paty in nj this saturday, with rad bands playing, if any of you lovely sinister boy and girls want to go email me and i will give you info..i finally decided what i will be for halloween. it occured to me that i already have the perfect costume. i have my princess prom dress!! it is so beuatiful, it look like cinderella's ball gown only it is lavender. i had been wanting to wear it again, but where would i wear a formal gown? well duh, on halloween of course, with fairy wings and a wand. i even have matching lavender shoes and a tiny lavender hangbag. oh it will be grand. i could have used the dress to be a princess instead of a fairy, but nooo i couldnt find one boy to be my prince. i mean really, they should be honored to be my prince but god forbid any of the stupid boys actually dress up and look dashing. no its just easier for them to just throw on some dirty clothes that picked up off the floor, and comb back their dirty hair and throw on a hat and sweatshirt. hmmf. how awful...ok darling i must go. i love you all. xoxo, lauren +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dbgeraghty at xxx.uk Mon Oct 25 15:03:27 1999 From: dbgeraghty at xxx.uk (David Geraghty) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:03:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: own up. come on. own up. Message-ID: <001301bf1ef1$b7ca3fe0$e829d4d4@dbgeraghty> which misguided fool voted for me on list crush, and therefore made my (sad) day? thank you. you cheered me up due to...... well, i managed to crash my car last night, but as i did it while listening to the Dog on Wheels EP for the umpteenth time, i can blame it on wee stuarts beguiling voice. The emotion was too much dontcha know? It meant i missed the Blair Witch project, but i suppose i was lucky to escape alive. Crashes at 5mph can be very dangerous you know... Went to see Looper at their in store last week. Alas only caught the first 30 secs of one song thanks to Mr octupus irritating man. I know this is late, but i only just realised how mad that pompus american talking about drugs made me. Although not quite as mad as his pouting girlfriend made me. Well, i shall go before i bore you, pausing merely to say 'Don't listen to Tim Gardner...oh, OK then, do. Go and see his gig baby and make him a happy man' thank you for listening, david. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_leak at xxx.uk Mon Oct 25 15:20:05 1999 From: chris_leak at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?CHRIS=20LEAK?=) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:20:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Help Message-ID: <19991025142005.29334.rocketmail@web1303.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone know any web sites for locating musicians? We are still struggling to find a new female vocalist and possible others. We're going back in the studio next month and if we don't find a new female vocalist then the lead guitarist is gonna sing!! Bless Leaky ===== ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Elizabeth.Kurtis at xxx.com Mon Oct 25 16:42:52 1999 From: Elizabeth.Kurtis at xxx.com (Kurtis, Elizabeth) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:42:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: RE: manchester and other stuff Message-ID: <262810611403D211A8FF00A0C94CAF3B024DE503@QUAY-STREET1> Hello you P.Y.T's... A wobbly-knee'd Gareth said: > I have not been on the list for some time now. I have recently began > university in Manchester, and live on Oxford Road. I was strolling down > the > road the other day, when I suddenly abruptly stopped: I had seen a poster > for a B&S Meet up here in Manchester! > > I have not yet met anyone who knows, likes, or has even heard of Belle & > Sebastian since being here - despite wearing my badge! Because Manchester > is a big bad scary place, and the Meet up is quite a way from where I > live, I was wondering if there was anyone out there that I could meet up > with to go to the event. > I believe you're talking about the same night that I mentioned in a mail last week -- it's not a meet up as such, but a B&S-themed disco with other indie stuff thrown in. It's at the Star and Garter, near Piccadilly train station. I wouldn't say that Manchester is *that* big bad and scary, but it is a bit rough around the edges in that particular area. We're not 100% sure that we're going, but I'm sure that you'll meet lots of nice or at least sane people inside, and then you can share a taxi back. Just back from a debauched Sinister LAYDEEZ weekend in Greenwich. Who would have thought that the BOYZ would have been so jealous of us? It was great to know they were all pining at home, leaving greasy nose marks on the windows as they peered out in the rain oh-so-wistfully. Many secrets were shared and lots of goss but they'll never know about it!! Ah hahahaha. Saturday was Nihon day. We walked around London in sensible silver trainers and mary janes. Lunch at Wagamama and buying of lovely things at the Japan Centre. My new talking Pokemon (Togepi, #65) is so disgustingly cute, I can't believe I bought him - seeing as I didn't think I had a twee bone left in my body. Then a roast Sunday lunch where Pam trussed up the bird, Sez made voluptuous DD Yorkshire puds and I sauced up a cake with nutmeg and Bailey's. We girls don't proclaim we want a **ck, we just eat sexy food instead. Speaking of that, what is it with announcing to the world that you want something of a, err, personal nature? There are just some things that we *don't* all need to know. For example, I don't want to know when Tim Hopkins wants to belch, or when Peter Miller wants to 'release gas'. I'm sure they all do when there are parties in Andy's big hairy cave, but thankfully we don't hear all the gory details. Notice to the whingers, teenage or not: try to remember that out of 1000 or so people, not everyone wants to be your Agony Aunt or Uncle. Why not set up a nickname of the people who tend to reply to those sorts of mails and send your woes to them instead? Geez, I thought chat took care of this sort of stuff but it seems not. Bah humbug. Maybe I sound old and cranky, but I've heard a lot of complaints about this lately and figured someone's got to speak up. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dunca_chap at xxx.com Mon Oct 25 16:40:36 1999 From: dunca_chap at xxx.com (Adam Chapman) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:40:36 GMT Subject: Sinister: Dexter Message-ID: <19991025154037.15015.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey there! Anyone notice the latin in the subject line? No? oh well, no matter. Why is everyone here in love at the mo'? What a bloody stupid question, i'm not, well, maybe just a little. O.k. maybe just a lot, its hard to tell sometimes. At least it is for me, in this i suffer acute self doubt and anxiety, which is unusual for me, i think. What it does is to completely mess up my mind, i just don't know how to say what i really want to say even here, even now. I'm fairly sure she likes me at some level, though how much, or for what resons i have no idea. Shes just one of the sweetest people i've ever known, which i admit sounds rather corny and not a little biased but right now i believe it, but would hate to spoil our friendship through it, as has happened to me before i'm sorry to say... Any ideas welcome. Ho well, sorry to burden you with all that, you're serving as substitute for B+S themselves as i'm having a little difficulty getting my albums back from friends "just let me tape it off" they say, and being me i say o.k. but this has been going on for a wee while now and its starting to mildly frustrate rather than annoy, but there you are. Long life and happiness to you all if thats what you desire, Adam 'If you can't make them think, at least make them sing...' ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dunca_chap at xxx.com Mon Oct 25 16:40:21 1999 From: dunca_chap at xxx.com (Adam Chapman) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:40:21 GMT Subject: Sinister: Dexter Message-ID: <19991025154021.83593.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey there! Anyone notice the latin in the subject line? No? oh well, no matter. Why is everyone here in love at the mo'? What a bloody stupid question, i'm not, well, maybe just a little. O.k. maybe just a lot, its hard to tell sometimes. At least it is for me, in this i suffer acute self doubt and anxiety, which is unusual for me, i think. What it does is to completely mess up my mind, i just don't know how to say what i really want to say even here, even now. I'm fairly sure she likes me at some level, though how much, or for what resons i have no idea. Shes just one of the sweetest people i've ever known, which i admit sounds rather corny and not a little biased but right now i believe it, but would hate to spoil our friendship through it, as has happened to me before i'm sorry to say... Any ideas welcome. Ho well, sorry to burden you with all that, you're serving as substitute for B+S themselves as i'm having a little difficulty getting my albums back from friends "just let me tape it off" they say, and being me i say o.k. but this has been going on for a wee while now and its starting to mildly frustrate rather than annoy, but there you are. Long life and happiness to you all if thats what you desire, Adam 'If you can't make them think, at least make them sing...' ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Mon Oct 25 15:49:00 1999 From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE DICKIE) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 07:49:00 PDT Subject: Sinister: HAVE FUN WITH ME Message-ID: <19991025144900.14073.qmail@hotmail.com> I HAVE STOPED TALKING TO MY MOTHER I CALL HER 3-FISH-FINGER-DEB BUT IT IS A LONG STORY WHICH IS HARD TO EXPLAIN I HAVE STARTED 2 DAYS AGO AND IT HAS GIVEN ME A GREAT DEAL OF SATISFACTION YOU SEE EVERYTIME I TALK TO HER SHE WILL START TO MOAN WHICH WILL MAKE ME MOAN AND SO ON IT IS A WASTE OF TIME THE FUNNY THING IS 3 FISH FINGER HAS NOT NOTICED THAT I'M NOT TALKING TO HER YET MMMMMMMMMM HAS MY LIFE REALLY COME TO THIS THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES THE LONG ANSWER IS YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES ETC TC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMM MMMM YES I REALLY SHOULD NOT OF BOTHERED I KNOW 4. Why does Tigermilk sound 100 times better in the car? MMMMMMMMM THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE YOU SEE YOUR BODY AND MIND IS IN ACTION DRIVING THE CAR YOUR DOING SOMETHING WHILST LISTENING TO B&S SO YOU DON'T FEEL GUILTY OR BORED BY JUST LYING IN YOUR BEDROOM LISTENING TO MUSIC WHILST DOING NOTHING WHEN THERE ARE A 100 THINGS YOU PROBABLY SHOULD BE DOING YOU SEE DRIVING A CAR TAKES THIS AWAY AS YOU COULDN'T BE DOING ANYTHING ELSE THOUGH SOME DRIVERS TRY DO OTHERTHIGS WHILST DRIVING LIKE READING A MAP ETC MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ALSO THERE IS THE SPEED AND NOISE OF THE CAR WHICH CAN HUMMMM ALONG NICELY TO THE BEAT OF B&S IT IS THE SAME THING WITH NEW YEARS EVE WHY DOES ONE GENERALLY ENJOY NEW YEARS BETTER? IT IS BECAUSE WE ARE ALLOWED TO CAPITALISM LETS US OFF FOR THE NIGHT CAPITALISM LETS PEOPLE DRIVING OFF FROM DOING ANY OTHER TASK AND ONCE ONE IS FREE FROM CAPITALISM ONE IS MORE HAPPY B&S SOUNDS BETTER SO IF CAPITALISM WAS DESTROYED B&S WOULD SOUND *100 TIMES BETTER* ALL THE TIME I REALLY SHOULD NOT OF BOTHERED I KNOW LOVE AND COMPUTER CODES GEORGE HENRY OF THE DICKIE VARIETY ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redden at xxx.com Mon Oct 25 18:15:24 1999 From: redden at xxx.com (danielle redden) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:15:24 -0500 Subject: Sinister: speak for yourself Message-ID: idon't know about the rest of you kids, but i personally would love to know evertime "tim hopkins wants to belch" and "pete miller wants to'release gas'". let's go boys, bring on the updates... danielle Whaat!!! Have you tried The Doghouse??! Get your FREE WEB-BASED EMAIL account at: http://doghousemail.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Mon Oct 25 16:41:53 1999 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:41:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: How would you like it, sir? Message-ID: Someone had carved "MENSWEAR" in big capital letters into the desk I sat at this morning. Next to that someone had carved "If you're Harry and you know it clap your hands". Clap clap. Oh no, I'm not Harry am I? I always forget. Harry's an ace name isn't it? I only know one Harry, and he has a very round chin rather like a baby hippo's bum. Has anyone read any Harry Potter books? Are they any good? I wasn't going to bother with them but now I know they're banned they sound rather exciting. Naughty even. Like speed. Oh look, I press these buttons and words appear on the screen. How very amusing. I met Belle and Sebastian last night. Belle was carrying a ladder and kept hitting Sebastian about the face with it. Then I realised it was actually The Chuckle Brothers. Then I woke up and it was all a dream. Erica needs a haircut. Well, Erica, when you go ask them about their water-sprayers. I had my hair cut on Saturday and when the barber found out I was taking Physics he told me that I should find out why those water-spray bottles never work properly. Then he asked me if I knew how to wire a plug. Lots of people have told me things like this, about everyday things they use that don't work properly. Like cardboard boxes at Sainsburys that fall apart when you pick them up. One gloroius day I'm going to write them all down and work out how to fix them all. The world will rejoice! Perhaps I'll be made Prime Minister, or I might even get on the front page of the Kidderminster Shuttle. William mentioned Robin Hood. It's scary living round these parts in the autumn when I have to put my hood up. I keep thinking I'll be spotted by the evil Sherriff of Nottingham and his band of pesky moustachioed bastards. Sorry about the lack of any content whatsoever in this post. Robin . +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Mon Oct 25 18:53:55 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:53:55 -0400 (EWT) Subject: Sinister: If you had such a dream... Message-ID: I had a strange dream last night that Montenegro attacked Serbia. I have no idea where it came from, although I do know it must be loosely related to the recent news that Serbia would not block an attempt by Montenegro to leave the Yugoslav union, but still, it kind of creeps me out that I dream of things like that. Obligatory B & S content: My friend Ian from high school really loves B & S. He tends to be vocal about this when I force him to listen. I think it's kind of amusing that metal heads referred to B & S as pretentious when metalheads are some of the most pretentious "motherfuckers" I know. I'm sorry there are only so many songs you can write with three chords and a "horrific" voice before they all blend together. And the names? Cradle of Filth? Megadeth? Christ, how much more pretentious can you get? Hey, I'm a belle and sebastian fan, and yet I like Tool. There I've said it. Quick Brandt's reaching his breaking point update. Yesterday while enjoying a slice of pizza I bit my finger very hard and got upset. I realized how everything in my life is building and piling and I need to fix it. But most of it I can't fix alone. Liz is over compensating right now--We got in a huge fight thursday night after I accused her of spending too much time on the phone with a guy she had been seeing and taking me for granted. We spent a lot of the weekend together. That thursday made me realize how confused she is about everything though. She swears up and down that she doesn't want a huge commitment and yet when I tell her we should be together she says : Tell me how the rest of our life is going to work out. And I don't have that kind of foresight. But what she has gotten me to do is start trying to see the future and I don't like it. Like I say I get a girlfriend. Do you think that I will be able to remain as close as I am to her right now? And if she leaves in 3 years, will we remain as close if I'm not in tow? I doubt it. I'm not trying to be a jerk, it's just the way i know things would go. What's a boy to do? Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Mon Oct 25 19:08:28 1999 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:08:28 PDT Subject: Sinister: About picnics et al... Message-ID: <19991025180829.31493.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello you sinister people! I don't think I've got much to say-hurray!!! OK.Tell me about these picnics.Someone,anyone,please!I've mailed Honey but... I'm jealous of reading about meet ups and gatherings and staff like that.I'm new,remember,so fill me in.PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! Well,that's it. Take care. Bye. Zoexxx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Mon Oct 25 19:22:35 1999 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:22:35 -0400 Subject: Sinister: i want specifics on the general idea Message-ID: ***watch out. this is a long post*** i've been reading back through some of my "older" posts to this list. older being a relative term, since i've only started saving them about 2 months ago. i realized sometime back then that the things i write to you people were more detailed and interesting to read than what i write in my own damn journal. i guess i needed a new format. someone once said that my "patter is tremendous." i'm worried i'm losing my touch, though. maybe i should go back to doing headers. that was fun. TOO MUCH INFORMATION one of you glorious folks said you didn't want to know when Tim Hopkins and Peter Miller are feeling gassy, but why not? that may be a major influence in why and how they are writing what they are, so why exclude it if they feel the need to share? besides, if we start telling people not to post about bodily functions, soon i won't be allowed to complain about needing sexual gratification, and then what will i do? FRESH MEAT, CHEAP! you probably remember way back when (oh, about 2 weeks ago i think) i was complaining that nobody is attracted to me, and thought i must be a mutant of some kind. well, that's totally blown up in my face (not the fault of any of you, though). this past weekend of dancing and drinking has shown me that sure, people think i'm attractive. but only to the extent that they want to rub their genitals against me, not actually talk to me or anything. so now i feel like a peice of meat. what brought this on, you ask? last night i was talking to a friend about the party we had on saturday. and he commented on that boy in the red i was dancing with, and said that he was about to break us up if i looked at all uncomfortable. and said something about this boy groping me, etc. i don't remember it like that, but i guess i never stopped to think what it must have looked like to the other people there. i think i'll just go back to dancing with girls and leave it at that. i think the worst part was the actual conversation i had with my friend: friend: what was up with that boy you were dancing with? me: which one? friend: the one you were dancing really close to me: which one? friend: the one that was all over you me: which one? friend: i think he was wearing red me: oh. that one. i think i danced with about 4 or 5 boys that night, all of whom put their hands on me in some fashion, and ended up grinding some part of their body against me. eew. now i need to take a shower. i feel dirty. SUGAR SUGAR KANDY POP, PUSH IT DOWN PULL IT UP so i've listened to bis's "social dancing" a couple times now, and i'm a little disappointed. not as disappointed as i was when i first put it in, but maybe i'm just not in the dancing mood, you know? fuck it. i'll just listen to more built to spill. and perhaps a round or two of "slow graffiti," and the entirety of "dog on wheels." B&S-INDUCED CAR ACCIDENTS (does this count as content?) driving under the influence of B&S is, i think, generally a bad idea. i remember getting lost in lazy line painter jane (shut up, those of you who don't like that woman's voice. it's lovely) while driving to Stacks 'N' Steaks (on clark and devon in the north side of chicago, for you chicagoan types) a year and a half ago when i used to read there. I'd listen to that song just about every night i went (and i went just about every night) and a few times i'd be slow to put on the brakes approaching a stopped car or a red light, and nearly kill me and my poor ancient volkswagen. so i've stopped paying as much attention to it now. HARK TO THE TALE OF SETH, AND THE GIRL HE SCREWED OVER so it may be seth didn't blow me off as badly as i'd thought. tho i don't know. i can't tell. it's frustrating. i went to his house yesterday to try and dig something out of his storage closet that a friend had left there (my molecular biology lab book, to be precise). when i walked in the door (he was expecting me, as i had called beforehand to ask if it was okay) he gave me a big smile, a massive hug, a big soft kiss on the cheek, a longer hug, then asked me if it was cold outside. i'm guessing he felt how cold my ears were. i made a little small talk, then went upstairs to dig. never found the notebook, and when i came down he looked sad when i put on my coat to leave. i felt stupid, though. i don't have my own television, and the friend i normally watch the simpsons with wasn't home, so i ended up going back to seth's house 20 minutes later to watch the simpsons and futurama with him and the 5 other people he lives with. no touching this time, but i caught him looking at me more than once. a good amount of eye contact. what the hell do i make of all this? maybe i'll grab him and force him to tell me what's going on in his head next week at hampshire halloween. i'll be drunk enough to do it, i think. it would be a nice little anniversary, too. since it would be a year exactly since he got drunk and said he wanted to sleep with me. i guess it's my turn, now. and i'm sure you all cared about that. yeah, right. i bet you're asking youselves: "why does this girl tell us all this?" well, to be totally honest, it's because i don't know you. for the most part i'm not worried about you running around and telling all my friends what i said, and an anonymous bunch of strangers is easier to pour your heart out to than the people you live with and see every day. and the 900 or so pages of journal writing i've accumulated (yes, i number the pages. i'm a geek) don't compare in content and style with what i write to you. so i guess i've ended where i began, and it's like none of this post ever happened. then it's time to sign my name and let this post wander through wires in the form of electrons, and eventually reach your electronic mailboxes. -kerry "red usually means caution. or beef if it's a bullion cube." -"toys" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From magnetic13 at xxx.com Mon Oct 25 20:37:09 1999 From: magnetic13 at xxx.com (teri .) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:37:09 GMT Subject: Sinister: "-------" Message-ID: <19991025193709.47843.qmail@hotmail.com> about toronto, mark said: "I also have an old friend I'd love to visit, and frankly the thought of meeting all the fantastic sinisterines from the second most actively sinister city is making me wet. And it looks like we'll get to pop over to NYC too.." wow, i didn't realize that toronto was the second most active sinister city in the world. i wonder if that's something we should add to our town motto (that is, if we have one). i suppose we should make an effort to live up to this reputation? considering that most of us are in the thick of midterms and school, my sinister meet-ups have consisted of occasionally bumping into debbie, steve kado or kevin in the streets or telling emily "happy birthday!" over the phone and then hanging up to study. all this will change soon, though. my last midterm for a few weeks is tomorrow (i have one in a few hours, gah) and after that i am freeeee. debbie, what is going on with the november weekend thing you were mentioning? okay, i have to "review" teri p.s - someone compared joan of arc to ida and rainer maria. since ida is like, an amazing amazing beautiful band, it seems as though i must find out about these joan and maria bands... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Mon Oct 25 20:37:51 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:37:51 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Media Alert Service (UK) Message-ID: <199910251538_MC2-8A56-4B63@compuserve.com> Hi Stop Ins, Radio 1 Sound City tonight, Flaming Lips & Hefner (Rosita already gone out) Channel 4 10pm Ewan McGregor in Brassed Off, with Pete Postlethwaite (but I don't think you get to see his bits :- ) A while ago S Trousseau asked: Does anyone else know of rock'n'roll animals who have settled down to get proper jobs? I like to imagine that Slash might one day see the error of his ways, get a pension plan and decide to become an orthodontist. The former bass player from The Marmalade (O bla dee oh bla da, or something. Christ that McCartney's responsible for a lot of crap), whose name escapes me at the minute, manages a branch of a temp agency in East London. Bye, The Sculpture Squirrel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steve at xxx.uk Mon Oct 25 21:39:34 1999 From: steve at xxx.uk (Steve Genge) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:39:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: Adam Rickett rocked my world Message-ID: <008a01bf1f29$0ea9ea40$8ee5989e@wphnvffu> ***watch out. this ISNT a long post as I have no need to bore you with my private life, it even has vague B&S content*** Last week we had Adam "Nick Tilsley" Rickett do a signing in our record store & it was truly frightening seeing several hundred pre-teens screaming & bursting into tears at the sight of their young sexy object of desire. In fact it was just like a Gentle Waves gig. Anyways who cares? Basically it appears that I still have a quantity of those rather lovely Tigermilk/Mary Jo carrier bags & maybe some Tigermilk posters which I feel deserve better then being stuffed in a corner. So...to be in with a chance of getting one, go to our website below, go to our very empty due to geocities eating our previous one, guestbook leave a message & most importantly your email address & I'll get back to you. that's it, ten lines, see it isn't difficult steve xxxxx "Pain and beauty, our constant bedfellows." Sabine Strohem steve at redrosesforme.co.uk Red Roses For Me Fanzine http://www.redrosesforme.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mep at xxx.net Mon Oct 25 22:41:08 1999 From: mep at xxx.net (mep at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:41:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: bowlie weekender song??! In-Reply-To: <199910251821.MAA23930@turtle.esosoft.net> References: <199910251821.MAA23930@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: i'm so scared of internet lists. i really am. but i was wondering if anyone had heard this song called 'bowlie weekender' on the new hideki kaji (ex-bridge and all about pop person) album that came out quite recently? we surely need to know what the lyrics are. the highlight of my intentionally dull last week (after an overly exciting week before the dull one) was the headline on those placard things outside newsagents here in london which read: commuters in 'wrong lane' drama. that's exciting news. for you u.s. listees: the lapse will rock your world in 2000. bye! mark +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Mon Oct 25 21:27:36 1999 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:27:36 EDT Subject: Sinister: My First Post. Be nice to me please :) Message-ID: <0.502c7862.25461738@aol.com> Hello everyone on Sinister, I'm allowed to post now! My name's Jen, I'm 14, and I'm a fluffy owl. Ok, I'm not an owl but I'm fluffy. Metaphorically anyway. I found out how to join this list without all the bad problems I was getting because I'm stupid with computers, from a very nice person at a Hefner/Micheal Shelley gig who had a homemade Tigermilk tee shirt. Also Chris and Stevie from B&S were there. I really like belle and sebastian a lot, they're the best band in the world, and I don't know anyone else who's heard of them, except all my friends who like Steps and shouted at me a lot when they got that Brit thingy. Oh and my brother who says Stuart M is a poof and sings like a lassie. I don't like my brother much though. Hello to everyone on this list and I'll stop saying boring things now. Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Mon Oct 25 23:25:05 1999 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (Johan Nilsson) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 00:25:05 +0200 Subject: Sinister: i lie like you, i'm a woman too References: <199910251821.MAA23930@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: <19991025221236.36213.qmail@hotmail.com> NO B&S CONTENTS (sorry) i was really stunned by all the response i got from posting about cap'n jazz and joan of arc on the list. i was going to ask if there were any ida fans were around and then a mail about that arrived. on the subject, has anyone heard the new ida ep? i thought they broke up when jenny toomey and her friend (can't remember her name) decided to quite doing simple machine. but then i saw on cdnow that ida has a new ep out on some other label. mark wrote: for you u.s. listees: the lapse will rock your world in 2000. i was just about to ask, the van pelt! the van pelt's lp "sultans of sentiment" is one of my absolute favourite albums. it is so increadible! unfortunatly they broke up, i saw them on their last tour with the sin-eaters. they broke up because the singer, chris leo wanted to start teaching, then toko and chris decided to start a new band, the lapse. a friend taped their debut lp, i can't remember the name of it but i wasn't that impressed, there is a song about mosquitos that i liked but other then that it was not as good as the van pelt were in songs like "do the lovers still meet at the chiang kai shek memorial?", "nazen kills a cat" and "the good, the bad & the blind". but mark, are you saying that the new upcoming lapse lp is good or what? when i am on the subject of gern blandsten i should ask if anyone has heard the new ted leo lp. i really fucking loved chisels last two lps, they were historial pop events that should have been released on a bigger label - and i am saying this with a record of always being faithful to indie revolution everywhere. "set you free" and "8:am all day" are pop history. i saw ted leo play with is other band the sin-eaters (infront of oh let's say 25 people) and he is just amazing. Ok, enough already, sorry for the american indie culture part, fjärilspussar, Johan. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Mon Oct 25 23:47:27 1999 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (Johan Nilsson) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 00:47:27 +0200 Subject: SV: Sinister: must be the colors and the kids that keep me alive References: <0.b576f03.2545bcc0@aol.com> Message-ID: <19991025223453.70283.qmail@hotmail.com> lauren wrote: > i saw american beauty this weekend, oh my gosh it was sooo f-ing good! > everyone must go out and see it. i think it was the best movie i have been to > see in a long time. also i saw that the movie boys don't cry got excellent > reviews and it is now my goal to see it this week. and the added bonus is > that is has the lovely *chloe sevigny* in it. she is just so gosh darn cute... chloe is increadible beautiful, by my favourite beauty is tara subkoff, seen in the last days of disco with chloe as her silent roomate, she is 'so gosh darn cute'. ah that reminds me, has anyone on the list seen 'julien the donky boy'? i am really excited to see it because i think that harmony korine, despite my knowledge of the fact that he is, well, plainly increadible dumb, and amazing film maker. i read in id that he works on a film were he starts fights with people on the street. now he had broken so many bones that he can barely stand up so the movie is on hold for now. hey, what don't you do for the art? björnkramar, Johan ps. all americans are here by told to go and see the movie 'show me love' (that's what is called in the states, it is cencured, it's original title is 'fucking åmål'), it is the best swedish movie ever! it just opened up in major cities around in the states. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Mon Oct 25 23:57:38 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:57:38 EDT Subject: Sinister: My mind will be made up for me...baby's waiting for me there Message-ID: <0.5ae57c54.25463a62@aol.com> I followed the unbelievably amazing Superdrag during their last three stops of their East Coast tour and I was blown away (both methaphorically and sonically). If any of you either haven't checked them out before or if you've written them off after "Sucked Out" was played to death on MTV a few years back, I can't urge you enough to track down either of their Elektra records, Regretfully Yours, or Head Trip In Every Key. Dare I say they are our generation's Beatles? Yes, I dare. Ahhh...sadly I saw the most incredibly beautiful girl at the Baltimore stop on their tour but I hadn't the nerve to approach her. She was standing at stage left, a short pixie-ish girl with more than a passing resemblance to a slimmer, dark haired Isobel, miming the words to pure pop perfection and occassionally smiling at the girl standing next to her (now I know Isobel isn't the most liked person on this list, but dammit I fell in love you didn't so don't play that game). It was like that scene in Wayne's World where the room turns glittery and Dreamweaver starts playing, only thankfully the club soundman refrained from crushing my sanity. I pointed her out to my friend who said I should just go talk to her, but she was with some nerd so I said I'd wait until he left, which unfortunately turned out to be at the end of the show. In hindsight I should have caught up to her before she left the club but what can I do now? The show was fricking amazing and I got to hang out with the band afterwards but all I keep thinking about was how bad I wished I had any guts whatsoever. There's this line in this book called Cold Mountain where one character says to another "You know you really don't need her, you just want her" and the guy says back "The only thing I know is that I don't want to wake up tommorrow wishing I had more nerve tonight." Evidently that one went right over my head. Anyway, like I said I never said anything and she didnt go to the show in Delaware the next night so unfortunately my chance at eternal happiness was pissed away yet again. If anyone on this list has the foggiest notion of who I'm speaking of, for all that is holy and pure I hope you'll mail me with the 411. Maybe I'll see her at another show really soon, and maybe I'll actually say something. One of these days I'll learn... Steve C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From simongooch at xxx.uk Tue Oct 26 01:16:10 1999 From: simongooch at xxx.uk (Simon Gooch) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 01:16:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Dum dum dum dum. De da la da derr dum. Whaa waaa wack wowww... Message-ID: <000801bf1f47$83e930e0$d32a893e@mqeywdzn> The divine and fragrant Mark said: >Gonch Gardner from Grange Hill has tried unsuccessfully to chat up TWO of my >female friends in recent years. But then he is a ginger :-) Heh. Being a London lad for ooh, nigh on fourteen years now I have had many a run in with cast members of the UK's *top* school based drama serial. Roooo-laaand used to have a job playing shit records in the shit record shop on the shit street where I used to live. I would often saunter past, bobbing my head to the crazy 'appy 'ardcore rhythms emanating from within and wish I had the courage to go in and ask for some Michelle Gayle. And I will never forgot the evening when Danny (go on, you remember. The midget one who did the big mural and got killed by Mr Bronson) walked in to my local and my friend James, several pints worse for wear, rushed up to him and screamed; "LOOK, WHY CAN'T YOU JUST LEAVE ME ALONE" into his face. *Extremely* childish granted but far and away the best bit of (minor) celebrity baiting I've ever had the priviledge to witness. Aaah, happy days. >i think i'll just go back to dancing with girls and leave it at that. At least they know where to put it. StayLuckyRoryxxx (fallen arches not trenchfoot) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From colinboy21 at xxx.com Tue Oct 26 01:37:34 1999 From: colinboy21 at xxx.com (colin thornton) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:37:34 PDT Subject: Sinister: Happiness on the turntable Message-ID: <19991026003734.43114.qmail@hotmail.com> All, I can die now. In the same weekend, I bought vynil of the following albums: Nick Drake-- Bryter Layter (very very very rare), B&S-- Tigermilk, and B&S-- Boy With the Arab Strap. I'm new to the world of records, but this is kind of fun and unique... I would also like to thank the person who sent me some nice B&S bootlegs, especially the Black Sessions. She will be receiving a dub as soon as I can get it done, as will all the others with whom I've promised or traded. Sorry I'm so slow... Could I get some opinions on this matter... Which band is better: The Flaming Lips or Pavement? I prefer bands that are musically profound; I'd really appreciate opinions on this subject because I'm learning as I grow. Thanks, Colin Grail-Guardian ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From RPushong at xxx.com Tue Oct 26 02:55:44 1999 From: RPushong at xxx.com (RPushong at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:55:44 EDT Subject: Sinister: folksongs for the afterlife... Message-ID: <0.16b4e798.25466420@aol.com> hello everyone ... i've been listening to a really amazing band the last few days ...they are called "folksongs for the afterlife" ...it sounds like a cross between Heidi Berry ...& Low ...a little bit of Cowboy Junkies thrown in with some trip-hoppish kind of beats ...i can't stop listening to it...can anybody shed any light? ...i can't believe this band can just all of a sudden appear out of nowhere! i believe they are from America. its out on Enraptured Records on the 8th of November ...er...which is a coincidence as the band i'm in has a single out on the same day! we are called Elixir ...(sorry for this shameless plug ...)singles called Good Cop/Bad Cop ...its limited to 500 & its out on a label called Altered Vibes ...& its a slamming dance floor filler ( well thats what the press release is saying!)... a tribute to all those cheesy 70's cop films and tv series... buy it & i'll be your best friend! don't buy it ...well i'll be your friend anyway...but you should definately check out " folksongs for the afterlife"... to be honest Enraptured Records and its twin label Endorphin Records ...have been putting out some fantastic records lately ...Endorphin is a bit experimental ...& my other band Phobos 3 had a single out with them earlier in the year ...their only English band so far ...i think our willingness to do it for a box of free records came heavily into play! all the rest Acceleredeck ...Flowchart ...Pacifica ...have been American...the Acceleredeck album "Narcotic Beats" ...is well worth checking out ... lo-fi drum&bass at its best! oh god ...i detect a distinct lack of B&S content ...,too late now...er ...sorry and it won't happen again... take care kids.... push. x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tigermilk1 at xxx.com Tue Oct 26 19:05:09 1999 From: tigermilk1 at xxx.com (Elizabeth Arnott) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:05:09 EST Subject: Sinister: I'd like to show Mogwai around town... Message-ID: <19991026030510.87141.qmail@hotmail.com> Greetings Everyone, What a wonderful summer it will be... too much to look forward to... too much to do! Some ever so lovely bands are touring Australia.... MOGWAI (whom i am most excited about), Smog, Catpower and who has just been i hear you ask... Sloan, Sebadoh, Sam Prekop (the Sea and Cake) and Rebecca Gates (Spinanes) and Mercury Rev..... too much pleasure for one small lassie.... However all this pleasure will have to wait until exams are all over... which is not too long (Novemeber 9th)... i suspect i should be studying for my psychology exam tomorrow but ... well i'm preoccupied... thinking about how i would love to show those lovely Mogwai boys around town... ah well i can keep dreaming can't i? Tomorrow after the exam i am tossing up between watching "The Book of life" (by Hal) or going out to see Light's Suprising Constancy (as i have seen 'the book of life' before)... and if A slow Loris are also playing that night i will be in even more of a dilema... Perhaps i should make someone else make a decision for me (lets see which gig i can get a lift home from, if either)! Friend said they had a spare drum kit that they'd give me if i wanted it and also teach me how to play! Funnny how the least expected things also happen to me! My brother is whining about how i don't like his goldfish boxer shorts, not that i said i didn't like them i just didn't comment! Is there a need to comment on ones boxers? Who knows... Well i had better go study... my brother just asked me whether i knew my stuff and... well... i don't.... time to cram and stress! Cheers, A Minor Liz ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From windisch24 at xxx.com Tue Oct 26 04:10:47 1999 From: windisch24 at xxx.com (mike windisch) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:10:47 PDT Subject: Sinister: groping nostalgia Message-ID: <19991026031047.45720.qmail@hotmail.com> I was watching when Kerry relayed the following dialogue, ---friend: what was up with that boy you were dancing with? me: which one? friend: the one you were dancing really close to me: which one? friend: the one that was all over you me: which one? friend: i think he was wearing red me: oh. that one. --- and had to stop and think just what color shirt I was wearing saturday night. Surely there was dancing, and thus being such more than a few mutual grooves turned to touch. We were laughing while the drunken jitterbug grew to grope. An then after a timeless moment of full body smile we retired to a standing room conversation piece. There was rampant eye contact and plenty of she flipping the pages of the ribald artful imagery tome by some famous haute coutour fotog type who's name i might remember if it weren't for the full burbon swoon. Dancing's a bunch of fun, and a favored form of nonverbal communication, primarily physical-spiritual with a bawdily beautiful underbelly. But it's not nice to dance and dash without a respectful chat that determines if there is some spark of intrigue and compatibility with this dashing other you met across some crowed room and were moved to entrain with. The truely chic display respect over sleaze as a matter of course. Musically speaking, any new england folks going to olivia tremor control in providence next week? I'll be tapeing it if anyone can't make it. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Tue Oct 26 05:16:07 1999 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick, a.k.a. Brian Pennington) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 00:16:07 -0400 Subject: Sinister: bye Sinister Message-ID: <38152AF3.40F33B23@ohiou.edu> Hey Sinisterines, I haven't been able to keep up with the multitude of posts, so I'm finally doing what I should have done a long time. Look, it's not you, it's me. I just don't have to give you the kind of care you need anymore. You deserve someone who'll treat you right. Well, I tried to end my last post with tradition anyway ;) So what if it was a bad attempt at tradition. If anyone needs to reach me I'm still at bp224996 at ohiou.edu Also as a last thought to me, you might listen in to my web-broadcast radio show. I won't completely spam the list, but you can go to http://www.frognet.net/~mick/radio.html if you want to listen, or if you're just really, really bored. Signing off, Mick McMick +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Tue Oct 26 10:01:51 1999 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:01:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Scary twigs Message-ID: <01bf1f90$be2969c0$046b9ac2@g5-200-3> Mrs Brady said: >>Notice to the whingers, teenage or not: try to remember that out of 1000 or so people, not everyone wants to be your Agony Aunt or Uncle. << And Mr Genge said: >>watch out. this ISNT a long post as I have no need to bore you with my private life, it even has vague B&S content<< And I say: >>Here, here. Surely if you want to keep an internet diary, there are far more efficient ways of doing this than contributing to mailing lists. Set up your own webpage or something, and then people can choose whether to read about your endlessly fascinating encounters with the mundane. I hate moaning about this kind of stuff, but pur-lease, it's becoming a drag.<< Colin Thornton said: >>Which band is better: The Flaming Lips or Pavement? I prefer bands that are musically profound; << Hmmmm. Latin scholars will know that "profound" is derived from "pro" meaning "before" and "fundus" meaning "bottom" or "arse". So by "musically profound" I can only imagine you mean "disappearing up their own behind". In which case Flaming Lips win, no question. Mick McMick said: >>I'm finally doing what I should have done a long time ago<< Awww. I'm blue. Pantone 292 blue, to be anal about it. We shall not see his likes again. We went to see the B**** W**** P****** last night. My special friend said: >>What a sack of arse<< And I agreed. Johann said: >>ah that reminds me, has anyone on the list seen 'julian the donky boy'? << The last time I saw him was at bowlie. He was dancing around outside the loos wearing an animal mask. He'll probably be at the Star and Garter, I imagine. Bye bye Stevie Troussé +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tjl at xxx.uk Tue Oct 26 11:01:50 1999 From: tjl at xxx.uk (Tim) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:01:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: say la la love you References: <199910231135.FAA21379@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: <00be01bf1f9c$4f8f16c0$030ae392@tjl> Or something like that. I've only heard the one Chemistry Experiment song, Disco Song, but it's rather nice, so for that reason everyone should go and see them. Oh, and I'm sure they're lovely as well. I have a slight Belle and Sebastien story. But none one of these ones where you have a t-shirt and someone comes up and talks to you about it, and then five minutes later you're shagging rather hard. Just that I finally got round to buying If You're Feeling Sinister on cd (previous copy was a tape) and the bloke in the rather amusingly named Left Legged Pineapple said that it was a good choice. I think he got a bit embarrassed after that as my girlfriend started to laugh. Maybe if she hadn't been there we would have gone back to his place....... Did buy some smooth cds from there though. Finally got round to buying the Witness album, as well as a couple of Arabstrap albums, and Summerteeth by Wilco. Don't know who it was, but some delightful little person mentioned Dr Who, but ever so briefly though. Shame, as this was clearly one of the best programmes ever made. It went a bit downhill when they made that new film though, as that was a bit poor. There's rumours that there's going to be another one. Hmm.... I need a new job, and soon. Have to get away from students. They're really starting to annoy me. I got told of by a mature student yesterday for not smiling back at her when she smiled at me. I'm sure it's not in my contract to smile. The place is sooooo depressing. Looks like I'm going to go to a temping agency and see if I can find somethings to see me through to next August or so. Anyway. Angel delight and cheese on toast, with hot pepper sauce you understand, to make and eat. Hugs, and cherries Tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Oct 26 11:57:51 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:57:51 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Hands out of gloves In-Reply-To: <199910251538_MC2-8A56-4B63@compuserve.com> Message-ID: I am relieved as I was not wearing anything red on Saturday Night,you never know,after so much suspiciously brown coloured punch and some Port all together, and there was some American girl in that party.But some naughty dancing is involved in my memories,involving black velvety gloves (or maybe they were black verlie ones...I dunnow) We could not see Brassed Off ,that-film-which-made-me-love-E.-foreverandeverandever.I am so prunish that in fact I fell in love because of him not showing any of his bits, wearing wolly designer jumpers-ready-for-the-pit.ER chapter produced the same effect on me.Can you get more twee than that?And I resemble a nun because I am Spanish and my face is wide.Can you get more Holden-Caulfield-type-of-girl than that?And I got (in spite of my housemates shouting and Jeremy Paxman as arsey as ever)at least 8 questions in UC without paying attention really...Uhhh. Long books and long postings are not for me.With these statement,posts of more than 6K would come together with Ulysses,War and Peace and The Man with no attributes (is the title OK?),so I hope none will feel offended.I just have a look,but not very careful and read the reviews instead. Props and kudos to those promoting THe Chemistry Experiment.They have to become famous and successful in order I will have something to tell my grandsons apart from feeling incredingbly embarrassed when facing all Bellies in some remote Sussex train station and trying to look very detached, very concerned with their privacy necessities Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Tue Oct 26 12:01:43 1999 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:01:43 BST Subject: Sinister: Flaming lips Message-ID: <19991026110143.99255.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear Listees, i am very disturbed by what I saw last night at the Flaming Lips/Hefner gig. Hefner were brilliant (of course) but the Lips were frightening- a drummer who wasn't there, a huge gong on stage , a hand puppet that looked like a nun, and the lead singer chasing sperm on the projected backdrop. I am supposed to review it for the Manchester Uni student paper but quite frankly I have no idea what to say without sounding like I took all the drugs. No B+S content but Hefener do have a nice line in badges which kind of makes up for it. Paul ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Tue Oct 26 12:36:53 1999 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:36:53 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: And Splat shall be your sister. Message-ID: <19991026113653.9813.rocketmail@web1704.mail.yahoo.com> Dear Sinister, Fluffosophy? Efluffience more likely. I know what I mean by that. I've just printed out over 100 pages on the printers.... teehee I AM ever so wicked. I'm desperately looking out for more stuff I can print. I know! I will print out The Lad Keefs super-duper Bellend Sebastian project, and the guitar tabs for songs by people of the same name! Damn, I don't have an unzipper. Bugger. I'll of course get Vic Godard round personally to teach me the hits of the Subway Sect though. Can you play Steps songs on a post punk guitar? Myself and a lady formerly of this parish are going to see Steps at G.A.Y. I'll scream for H, and lots of lesbians will probably tell me off for displaying THE FASCIST HETEROSEXUAL HEGEMONIC ORTHODOXY, MAN! Its not that really, I don't really fancy H from Steps... I think he's a little grinning Welsh chappy who bounces a lot. A Pop Tigger, in fact! Lisa from Steps likes it up the bum... if thats not Dr Freud saying SOMETHING about Gayism, I don't know what it is. I wonder why girls like it up the bum? I know why boys do, its because of boys bits being so placed...but anyway... TO SOME PEOPLE WHO SHARE MORE THAN WE WANT, IT WAS A RHETORICAL QUESTION, DO NOT ANSWER THIS CITING EXAMPLES FROM YOUR OWN LIFE, PLEASE.... Cheers. Jolly glad for Elisabeth speaking up for our rights, by the way. Do you all want to know about my weekend? I stayed in and watched telly, and typed up an essay. Yeah! Glad to know you had a Japanese day. Just remember, daishooben o kinzu. I met Adam Rickett in Manchesters Trendy Trafford Centre. Well, by met, I mean "saw". He was opening up an Our Price and looked very buffalicious. I phoned up all my friends and told them that I met Adam Rickett and they promtly hired an elite set of assassins to track myself down. And you fools think I moved here to come to university, when in fact I'm hiding from a crack squad of Preston Taste Police. Damn! I don't know how to play a Bb sus2 on a guitar for Petes sake! But I HAVE to learn how to play IKnowWhereTheSummerGoes else I'll hold my breath until I pass out... I liked it when Andy signed off "paint along with andy", which I think he did once. I wonder if it'll be as good if I go... paint along with Starry Sarah xxx Is it? ===== ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cmpodd at xxx.com Tue Oct 26 13:42:11 1999 From: cmpodd at xxx.com (Craig Podd) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:42:11 BST Subject: Sinister: Revenge of the lawn Message-ID: <19991026124211.17197.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello everyone, I have to start by saying i don't agree with Nick about Morvern Callar. I thought it was a great book, and so were Alan Warners other efforts come to think of it - These Dememented Lands and The Sopranos. I think they are making the Sopranos into a film (its nothing to do with that programme on channel 4!) or did i just make that up? I've just finished reading a book of short stories called Revenge of the Lawn by Richard Brautigan which i also recommend to anyone on the list who hasn't read it. Its great to just carry around everywhere you go because the stories are so short that you will be able to read a whole one in any slight break you might have. I keep meaning to send my nominations for Laura Llews Litarory list but i never seem to get around to it. I definitly will do soon! I had a shock when I read Kevin Parkers message saying he is from Shrewsbury - a fellow Salopian who likes Belle and Sebastian - I never thought i would see the day! Shame about Shrewsbury Town football club though, look at us languishing third from bottom of the third division. I always wondered what it would be like to support a team that gets relegated to the conference, i might be about to find out. I read a funny story in the Guardian the other day. It said that a man in Brazil who was in massive debt chopped his own hand off to claim insurance money. He did this by telling the police that while he was on his way to buy an ice cream, a gang attacked him, chopping his hand off with an axe. However, police became suspicious because they could not understand why the man would want ice cream on a cold winter night, brazilian gangs tend to use guns rather than axes, and the man could not explain where he had got a cloth from to wrap the hand in. So the man addmitted that he had in fact paid his mate 100 dollars to chop his hand off. However, i thought the best bit was a quite from the mans wife who said that: "It was a stupid thing to do. We are still in debt but now he only has one hand." It made me laugh anyway! You would think he would think up a decent story if he was going to chop his hand off! Anyway, i think i've probably been going on for far too long now, so i must go and do some work Bye! Craig ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Tue Oct 26 14:03:08 1999 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (MBBX9FF2) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:03:08 BST Subject: Sinister: outpouring my soul Message-ID: <476A9D0B76@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> - hey kids, not been able to post for a few days, as i went home for the weekend and its taken me this long to read through everything you guys have written, but i wouldn't have thought you missed me too much. i'm troubled today as i do actually have some bad stuff that happened in my life i need to share with someone and i did think that the list would be my forum, but now that so many people have complained about being forced to be agony aunts/uncles i'm a little more reluctant. bugger it, i'm going to tell you anyway, its not that traumatic and you don't have to read this bit if you don't want to. friday night:- i got dumped thats it, in simple terms, but, of course nothing is ever as simple as that, we had only been going out for about a month, but as has been discussed before you can very attatched to someone in much less time than that. the thing is, we get on really, really well and have the sort of stuff in common that makes you think, shit, i could spend a long time with this person. in addition, there is an immense physical attraction, despite the fact that he isn't my type at all (he doesn't have nearly a good enough haircut) to my mind, logically, all the evidence points to us being together, but according to him, apparently not. the most annoying thing being that i can actually see the points he has to make about why we shouldn't go out with each other, namely that 1) we've both just started university and its all happened so quickly that we really should settle down first before embarking on a serious relationship 2) its only a matter of weeks since he split up with his girlfriend of three (THREE!!) years and all this is far too weird 3)he claims that i like him more than he could ever like me because his mind works too logically and he can never fall in love with anyone, particularly because it would get in the way of his band well, fuck that, (sorry i am a foul-mouthed bint when i'm emotional) look at me i've just outlined my inner turmoil in bullet-points, and he thinks he's more detached than me!!! anyway, i had a chat with him yesterday, during which we both had to fight very hard to resist getting off with each other, and we're going to be friends with the possibility of casual sex later when we're not too attatched to one another. i tried to explain to him that could never quite work because of how desperately lonely i get when i'm on my own (i know thats sad, but thats another issue), but he reckons that i can still have him for companionship and occasional physical fulfilment, although technically we won't be going out. i am very confused. you all have my sincerest apologies for this post, i was just hoping that someone out there might understand or have some advice or even be able to fill the void. b+s content i passed on a tape of tigermilk and sinister today to someone who i think will appreciate it - the conversion continues. stay beautiful, fiona ******there is no true love, just a finely tuned jealousy***** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcan at xxx.edu Tue Oct 26 14:24:28 1999 From: marcan at xxx.edu (marcan at xxx.edu) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:24:28 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Scenester in denial Message-ID: <199910261324.JAA43078@acs1.bu.edu> Hello all- Attempt one at sending this last night failed, so here goes attempt #2. I just returned from the wonderful Stereophonics show at the lovely Boston Paradise club. I saw an old friend outside of the club after the show and talked with her for the first time in ages. She's a fellow BU student, and has been a good friend to me these past 2 years, but for some reason, this semester she's been blowing me off. Tonight, she ended our conversation with the statement "I hate scenester kids like you." This really upset me and got me to do a lot of thinking on the cold walk home. Is there something wrong with introducing yourself to people you see on a near-weekly basis at parties, record stores, or shows? I knew very few when I arrived in Boston, so if I hadnt learned to overcome my fear of talking to random people, I'd still be sitting in my room all night playing computer games. I dont consider these people close friends, although I will admit that a few of them have become really good friends of mine (hi Teri) through the years. Or is it not that that makes one a scenester? Is it because my tastes in music have evolved over the years? I'll admit, 4 years ago I spent my days skateboarding and listening to too much of the local ska and punk bands, but I feel that that has shaped and molded me to who I am today. I dont deny ever listening to any of that, and there are a few bands that I still play and go see when they come to town. Does that make me a scenester? And now dress. So my taste in clothes has changed over the year. Where I grew up in CT you look either 2 ways: ghetto or prep. I came to Boston and realized that there is more than that, and over the years have come to prefer to tapered polyster Levis to the khakis of past, youth L t-shirts to the size L skate company shirts of past, etc. Is maturation in any way bad? I'm still the same person, I havent adopted some cocky attitude in the process (although I joke around with a rock star attitude at points). So after writing this, I cant determine why she would hate a person for any of those attributes. Maybe I'm defining scenester wrong, or maybe she's just jealous. I dont know. All I do know is that it hurts to lose someone that was once a close friend. Sorry for that rant, but feel free to provide any insight. On another note, it is nice to see that some people on the list are getting into bands such as Rainer Maria and Joan of Arc. I'm not a big Rainer Maria fan, but I do really enjoy Joan of Arc and the other bands that Tim Kinsella has been involved with. I cant see at all how theyd be related to Belle and Sebastian, but they are quite interesting and do a great job at playing a very unique style of music. I saw them live this summer and recommend their concerts to any who havent seen them. My good friend Matt Sbardella, who is also on this list, yet I've never seen post (hi Matt!) recently got me into a rather good Australian band and I was curious if anyone else was into them. They're called the Lucksmiths and they will be touring the US soon, so if they're coming to your town, do check them out. They're a pretty much acoustic trio with beautiful tales of rainy days and barroom love. Do check them out if you've got the chance. Well, I have work at 8 am and a midterm to study for, so I shall be off. Cheers. -Nick +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Tue Oct 26 03:09:43 1999 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:09:43 -0400 Subject: Sinister: machine is bored with love Message-ID: <38150D67.DB188C16@utoronto.ca> last evening i seem to have sent this to lucy alder. i don't know why. she probably thinks theres something wrong with me for having singled her out.... any way, its for all 1000 or so of you. enjoy i havn't put my 2 cents in for a while. i've fallen under the spell of various dairy products lately. i've been making nearly daily trips to the cheese shop in kensington of late and its taking a toll on my wallet. however, i must say my relationship to various femented milk products is almost as good and wonderful as most of the actual people i've carried on with (well not really, but its still marvelous). i got this french cheese the other day with a little line of blue/green mold in the middle that put me right over the moon. i forget its name at the moment but when i remember i recomend that everyone go off and buy an entire wheel of the stuff then lock yourself up in your room and lie in bed with a box of crackers and enjoy its milky goodness. and to the vegans of the list who are no doubt tut tut-ing away (no doubt contemplating sending me another 'milk is slavery' post) i have only this to say: to make an omlette you must break a few eggs. (i just couldn't help myself) Lucy (who is clearly not vegan) wrote: > Yum - I've just polished off an enormo-box of Marks & Spencer's sushi which > I washed down with a bottle of their top class freshly squeezed orange and M&S sell sushi? with fish? for real? not the california roll stuff? sushi is another of my passions. about once a year my dad shells out about $200 can (approx 3 pounds or 4 american dollars) so that my entire family (all three of us) can get really good sushi. i look forward to these days the way some kids look forward to christmas. before marks and sparks closed up their canadian opperations i didn't notice any sushi, which is obviously why their business failed here. all they had of interest to me was these shrimp chips and the nice battered fish that my mom would buy for me sometimes. and speaking of food, those who are fond of exotic cooking and dangerous living will be thrilled to hear that the Steven Kado guide to vodka and tofu entertaining is in its final draft and will soon be out stirring things up in martha stewart circles everywhere. [sk] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From calumn at xxx.uk Tue Oct 26 15:20:48 1999 From: calumn at xxx.uk (Calumn) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:20:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: Hefner & T-Shirts Message-ID: Whoo! He delurks like a flitting shadow to say: "Jen" wrote: "I found out how to join this list from a very nice person at a >Hefner/Micheal Shelley gig who had a homemade Tigermilk tee shirt. " erm, That was me (I was that soldier) - The gig in question was for BBC Choice's "BeatRoom" and damn fine it was too! Glad you found us, Jenn... I had thought that my directions may have been skewed somewhat as I was consuming alcohol at an alarming rate, purely for continuity reasons, of course! I only mention this because "Tim" wrote "I have a slight Belle and Sebastien story. But none one of these ones where you have a t-shirt and someone comes up and talks to you about it, and then five minutes later you're shagging rather hard. " Oh! I had no idea. This could have saved me months of planning and a fortune in expensive meals & tickets to see popular beat combos. Just throw on my "Tigermilk T" and wait for someone to talk about it. No Fuss, No Muss, No Bother. Does this mean my girlfriend can take my wearing a B&S T-shirt as proof of infidelity? Hope not, I like that T-shirt. Anyway... "Paul Arathoon" wrote: >No B+S content but Hefener do have a nice line in badges which kind of makes >up for it. At the BeatRoom gig, they even had a "Rawk Moment" when due to "artistic temperament", a stylophone hit the floor, closely followed by a spate of lager sipping that wouldn't have seemed out of place at a Pogues gig. Never saw any badges, though ("we don't need no steenkeeng badges") Off to lurk again... Love & Special Sauce : 'Nuff Said? Happy Holidays! CalMonger. Ps - Slashdot never published my scoop. Bah, Humbug. ---------------------------- Get a 30-day trial version of our E-Mail , software for Palm Pilot, at www.jpsystems.com ---------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Tue Oct 26 03:48:11 1999 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:48:11 -0400 Subject: Sinister: That girl is crazy, she's leaving town References: <19991026124211.17197.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3815166B.105CC110@utoronto.ca> Craig Podd wrote: > I read a funny story in the Guardian the other day. It said that a man in > Brazil who was in massive debt chopped his own hand off to claim insurance > money. He did this by telling the police that while he was on his way to > buy an ice cream, a gang attacked him, chopping his hand off with an axe. > So the man addmitted that he had in fact paid his mate 100 dollars to chop > his hand off. However, i thought the best bit was a quite from the mans > wife who said that: "It was a stupid thing to do. We are still in debt but > now he only has one hand." i can see it now: C: Antonio, are you sure you want me to do this? A: Of course, Caetano, (rubbing hands together in a crafty manner -for the last time) if this plan suceeds its 'bye bye creditors' forever! Now quick! Let me finish my drink and then we'll get chopping! C: OK Antonio, i suppose you know what you want.... oh the hilarity. couldn't resist. sk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From magnetic13 at xxx.com Tue Oct 26 16:10:49 1999 From: magnetic13 at xxx.com (teri .) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:10:49 GMT Subject: Sinister: tales of brave ida Message-ID: <19991026151049.34904.qmail@hotmail.com> johan asked and i couldn't resist.. <> after jenny and kristen (i think?) stopped doing their simple machines thang, ida were picked up by a major label. capitol, perhaps? anyway, they're being treated in typical major label fashion and their newly recorded album is hidden away, probably in some record moguls front closet. hopefully it will be rescued. that ep (called "losing true") is wonderful. it's a little different than other ida stuff - it has more of a smoky cabaret feel to it. it was released on bingo records. and there you go. exam-time, teri ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilska at xxx.net Tue Oct 26 17:23:15 1999 From: wilska at xxx.net (Emily Wilska) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:23:15 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Have a look round--it's Mr. Pound Message-ID: <15AAE0EBDCC9D1119FFA00805F85642E04FBC51A@WNI-MSG-02> Hello, dearlings. For some reason, while out walking yesterday afternoon, I was reminded of a shop in London called Mr. Pound. Does anyone know of it? Does it still exist? I think there were several of them when I lived in that fine city a few years back, but the one I was most familiar with was on or near Oxford Street. My friend Chris and I stumbled upon it one day, drawn in by the recording being blasted out onto the sidewalk: "We've got dustbins, sponges, washing up soap, writing paper, toilet bowl scrubbers--all just a pound. Come in on, have a look round--it's Mr. Pound." We were amused to no end. We have similar stores here in the US, but somehow they're much less fun. They also tend not to have such, uh, emphatic marketing strategies. San Francisco is turning to fall (as in Autumn, not the band), which is actually sort of nice, as it means that I get to wear my new wool coat. It's both funny and a touch disturbing that the month and a half of summer-like weather we have out here has become sufficient for me, as I'm a summer baby and used to be much fonder of hot weather. I was in Zazie, a fab little restaurant, last Friday, and when the din of the crowd died down, I heard Sinister on the stereo. SF listees, now you have two reasons to eat here: because the food is yumlicious, and because B&S seeps through the air. Mmmmmm. My latest favorite Onion headline: Bill Bradley [US Presidential Candidate] Denies Being Into Spin Doctors in Early 90s. So damn funny. I wish I had the same mordant wit as the people who write these things. Right, then. Reminding you of Johnny before he went electronic, emily +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Tue Oct 26 18:45:08 1999 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:45:08 EDT Subject: Sinister: put your heads down, put your thumbs up... Message-ID: <0.b6dfee52.254742a4@aol.com> hello everyone. It's jen. I've come to the conclusion that everyone on sinster is so very nice, and I needn't have been worried at all. Everyone seems to talk about hefner a lot, which is good, because I love hefner to bits and pieces. Is it true some people from B&S helped out on Breaking God's Heart? My band have a new name. It's Indi-bindi. I don't know what it means but I saw it on a bus in turkey and thought it was a good name. And the rest of the band are sad so they agreed with me. Somebody said that they didn't know how to play Bb sus2? I just play Bb, and hope no one notices. My favourite B&S song is Le Pastie de la Bourgoisie, which I thought I'd tell everyone. It's halloween soon. Is anyone dressing up? I wouldn't be but I'm going to a party, which won't be good at all, so I have to, but never mind. Has anyone ever suffered violent abuse from wearing a b&s tee shirt? I had a girl in a steps tee shirt shout and swear at me yesterday, and you'd think they'd have forgot about it by now. Bye bye, Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From messentw at xxx.uk Tue Oct 26 19:02:35 1999 From: messentw at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?William=20Messent?=) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:02:35 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Sister Act Message-ID: <19991026180235.18442.rocketmail@web308.mail.yahoo.com> Whaddup kids; Juicy Lucy sez; >>SUCCESS! I was talking to my sister (DKNY trainer girl) at the weekendand she casually slipped into the conversation the following: "I was playing your Belle & Sebastian tape to my friend the otherday..." Naturally I was a tad surprised that she had taken the bait so easily(the bait being the tape which I had casually left in the stereo in her carthe previous week), so I asked if she played it much. "Yes," she replied,"now and again I do". I smiled a little smile to myself and left the tapein the car again this week.<< Well fucking hell. Who should I be out drinking with last night but the very same DKNY trainer girl. I was preparing for another night holed up in the corner of the pub clutching a vodka and tonic (after Hollyoaks and 'Enders, naturally) when my dear housemate Lisa announced that her mate was coming round. The three of us went out, had a very pleasent evening thankyou, and Claire happened to mention the Sinister list, Lucy, and all of the names that we know and love. Oh, and her DKNY trainers. Really. What a small world we all live in eh? And it just got a bit smaller. But cosier. She did have the B&S tape in her car, you know. But when I got in she took it out and put Tiffany on instead. Bless. Night night, Will x ===== Visit The Remote Viewer homepage http://www.members.tripod.com/remoteviewer/ ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Tue Oct 26 18:33:17 1999 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:33:17 GMT Subject: Sinister: Stand up for your love rights! Message-ID: <3816e5c8.819025@post.demon.co.uk> No, I wasn't "only joking". For all those who've kept schtum recently, wishing that people wouldn't send us witless crap about their lives, but not wanting to appear a party pooper, this is for you: Elisabeth said: >Notice to the whingers, teenage or not: try to remember that out of 1000 or >so people, not everyone wants to be your Agony Aunt or Uncle. Steve said: > ***watch out. this ISNT a long post as I have no need to bore you with my private life Trousers said: >Here, here. Surely if you want to keep an internet diary, there are far >more efficient ways of doing this than contributing to mailing lists. Set up >your own webpage or something, and then people can choose whether to read >about your endlessly fascinating encounters with the mundane. I hate moaning >about this kind of stuff, but pur-lease, it's becoming a drag. Fluffy said: >Jolly glad for Elisabeth speaking up for our rights, by the way. Does anyone see a pattern emerging? There's plenty more where that came from, I'm certain, and ain't it the truth? If you're going to tell us about your love lives or lack of them, think before you post, ask yourself "Will this entertain, amuse or inform? Will a significant proportion of 1000 people, the bulk of whom you've never met, *really* want to know this?". This is nothing to do with oldies vs newbies, or cliques, or one set of people being prevented from freely expressing their sexual frustrations, there is such a thing as "too much information". This is a good little list and through it I've met some of the nicest people in the world, but not for the first time people who've entertained on a regular basis are not posting and even leaving, because of a few selfish posters seem to think this is a self help group for people with Attention Deficiency Disorder. And it isn't. Tag x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Tue Oct 26 18:33:20 1999 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:33:20 GMT Subject: Sinister: Stand up for your love rights! Message-ID: <3816e5c8.819025@post.demon.co.uk> No, I wasn't "only joking". For all those who've kept schtum recently, wishing that people wouldn't send us witless crap about their lives, but not wanting to appear a party pooper, this is for you: Elisabeth said: >Notice to the whingers, teenage or not: try to remember that out of 1000 or >so people, not everyone wants to be your Agony Aunt or Uncle. Steve said: > ***watch out. this ISNT a long post as I have no need to bore you with my private life Trousers said: >Here, here. Surely if you want to keep an internet diary, there are far >more efficient ways of doing this than contributing to mailing lists. Set up >your own webpage or something, and then people can choose whether to read >about your endlessly fascinating encounters with the mundane. I hate moaning >about this kind of stuff, but pur-lease, it's becoming a drag. Fluffy said: >Jolly glad for Elisabeth speaking up for our rights, by the way. Does anyone see a pattern emerging? There's plenty more where that came from, I'm certain, and ain't it the truth? If you're going to tell us about your love lives or lack of them, think before you post, ask yourself "Will this entertain, amuse or inform? Will a significant proportion of 1000 people, the bulk of whom you've never met, *really* want to know this?". This is nothing to do with oldies vs newbies, or cliques, or one set of people being prevented from freely expressing their sexual frustrations, there is such a thing as "too much information". This is a good little list and through it I've met some of the nicest people in the world, but not for the first time people who've entertained on a regular basis are not posting and even leaving, because of a few selfish posters seem to think this is a self help group for people with Attention Deficiency Disorder. And it isn't. Tag x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Tue Oct 26 20:44:41 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:44:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Stand up for your love rights! References: <3816e5c8.819025@post.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <000b01bf1fea$8d053400$9b153c3e@default> Yes, I see where you're coming from, but isn't the whole community and idea of Sinister 'a group of friends you've never met that all share at least one common interest'? If this is indeed the case, then what are friends for? Support, love, discussion and reminiscing. Hmm? -- Jason Andreas -- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people ICQ: 45821217 ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert McTaggart To: Sent: 26 October 1999 18:33 Subject: Sinister: Stand up for your love rights! > No, I wasn't "only joking". > > For all those who've kept schtum recently, wishing that people > wouldn't send us witless crap about their lives, but not wanting to > appear a party pooper, this is for you: > > Elisabeth said: > > >Notice to the whingers, teenage or not: try to remember that out of 1000 or > >so people, not everyone wants to be your Agony Aunt or Uncle. > > Steve said: > > > ***watch out. this ISNT a long post as I have no need to bore you with my private life > > Trousers said: > > >Here, here. Surely if you want to keep an internet diary, there are far > >more efficient ways of doing this than contributing to mailing lists. Set up > >your own webpage or something, and then people can choose whether to read > >about your endlessly fascinating encounters with the mundane. I hate moaning > >about this kind of stuff, but pur-lease, it's becoming a drag. > > Fluffy said: > > >Jolly glad for Elisabeth speaking up for our rights, by the way. > > Does anyone see a pattern emerging? There's plenty more where that > came from, I'm certain, and ain't it the truth? If you're going to > tell us about your love lives or lack of them, think before you post, > ask yourself "Will this entertain, amuse or inform? Will a > significant proportion of 1000 people, the bulk of whom you've never > met, *really* want to know this?". This is nothing to do with oldies > vs newbies, or cliques, or one set of people being prevented from > freely expressing their sexual frustrations, there is such a thing as > "too much information". This is a good little list and through it > I've met some of the nicest people in the world, but not for the first > time people who've entertained on a regular basis are not posting and > even leaving, because of a few selfish posters seem to think this is a > self help group for people with Attention Deficiency Disorder. And it > isn't. > > Tag x > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redden at xxx.com Tue Oct 26 20:41:53 1999 From: redden at xxx.com (danielle redden) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:41:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: so, i have a nun puppet too.... Message-ID: someone said: >the Lips were >frightening- a drummer who wasn't there, a huge gong >on stage , a hand >puppet that looked like a nun, and the lead singer >chasing sperm on the >projected backdrop. i say: you obviously just don't understand americans.... danielle Whaat!!! Have you tried The Doghouse??! Get your FREE WEB-BASED EMAIL account at: http://doghousemail.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Tue Oct 26 20:47:39 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:47:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Stand up for your love rights! References: <3816e5c8.819025@post.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <001f01bf1fea$f6c3d220$9b153c3e@default> and as a kind of p.s. to the last mail, Do you begrudge Brandt the right to seek some comfort from the difficulites he was facing with his mum and stuff? I seriously hope not. Sorry if I'm being confrontational about this, but 'witless crap' seems a bit nasty to me... -- Jason Andreas -- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people ICQ: 45821217 ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert McTaggart To: Sent: 26 October 1999 18:33 Subject: Sinister: Stand up for your love rights! > No, I wasn't "only joking". > > For all those who've kept schtum recently, wishing that people > wouldn't send us witless crap about their lives, but not wanting to > appear a party pooper, this is for you: > > Elisabeth said: > > >Notice to the whingers, teenage or not: try to remember that out of 1000 or > >so people, not everyone wants to be your Agony Aunt or Uncle. > > Steve said: > > > ***watch out. this ISNT a long post as I have no need to bore you with my private life > > Trousers said: > > >Here, here. Surely if you want to keep an internet diary, there are far > >more efficient ways of doing this than contributing to mailing lists. Set up > >your own webpage or something, and then people can choose whether to read > >about your endlessly fascinating encounters with the mundane. I hate moaning > >about this kind of stuff, but pur-lease, it's becoming a drag. > > Fluffy said: > > >Jolly glad for Elisabeth speaking up for our rights, by the way. > > Does anyone see a pattern emerging? There's plenty more where that > came from, I'm certain, and ain't it the truth? If you're going to > tell us about your love lives or lack of them, think before you post, > ask yourself "Will this entertain, amuse or inform? Will a > significant proportion of 1000 people, the bulk of whom you've never > met, *really* want to know this?". This is nothing to do with oldies > vs newbies, or cliques, or one set of people being prevented from > freely expressing their sexual frustrations, there is such a thing as > "too much information". This is a good little list and through it > I've met some of the nicest people in the world, but not for the first > time people who've entertained on a regular basis are not posting and > even leaving, because of a few selfish posters seem to think this is a > self help group for people with Attention Deficiency Disorder. And it > isn't. > > Tag x > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Tue Oct 26 21:06:35 1999 From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister:"Dreamt I was a fireman, I just smoked and watched you burn..." Message-ID: <19991026200635.27567.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> what we talk about when we talk about belle and sebastian Lists and list traffic Sometimes it's bumper-to-bumper and sometimes it's open highway. But if you ride your bike, there's always wind in your hair and you can coast on by and occasionally stop to look at the view. This isn't necessarily an analogy, I was just thinking about cars. That is an analogy... A list is quite the strange organic thing. where have all the jygsawdaves gone? Dr. Who when I was in a photojournalism class at uni, I would always sing the dr. who theme song every time I went through the tartus in the photo lab. or I would say in a dramatic voice "the taaaarrrtus...". No one understood. It was fun for me though. Degrassi & Jump Street Always thought Degrassi was crap Cdn tv, but watched it anyway. Just like I watched the Littlest Hobo. So bad, yet not U.S.-tv bad, just Canadian-low-budget bad. There's a difference. Never saw any stars though, but because 21 Jump Street was filmed in Vancouver, I knew about 50 people in highschool who either had bit parts or were extras, brushing the likes of famesters such as Johnny Depp and Richard Geco (sp? obviously not so famous now...) Hastings 10, y'all. Cheese yum. Currently on a brie fixation. Sushi Yum. Time to brag: I eat it *all* the time and I am not rich by any means. This is because I live in the "Pacific Rim" as businesspeople like to call it. All you can eat sushi and $5.95 sushi specials w/ miso soup! all over town. Divine food it is. infp stuff Labels. But it's true, belle and sebastian speak to my infp self and upon first hearing them this was a great surprise, even before I knew anything about infp and other such personality acronyms. TOM WAITS!!! Saw him sun oct 17. He is the greatest. There was about an inch of dust all over the stage and instruments. He did songs spanning all his albums and danced like a hobo marionette. He told stories about rats falling from buildings. It was a beautiful and weird, amazing show. Plus, Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon were sitting 10 seats over and one row up from us. Ooooh, big C celebs. But I forgot about them as soon as Tom came down the aisle, shouting through a megaphone and throwing glitter dust. The crowd went wild... Pterodactyls Poetic poop all over my virtual apartment. I've been meaning to gather it up and plaster it on the list, but traffic has been high and poetry is apt to be ignored, no matter who the poet. The poetry pterodactyl still flies overhead though, threatening, threatening... Soap and Beauty Fight Club affected me, oh yes. I went off on mental tangents and couldn't leave my seat. Ikea always did scare me anyway. American Beauty is completely amazing. Kevin Spacey stuns me. And the writing is excellent. And all the deep reds, ooooh. Alice in Wonderland I just fell for the flu shot scam (it was free b/c I work in a hospital) and they gave me a candy and an extremely twee sticker of a bear holding two pink balloons and bending down to pick up a third he's dropped. I don't understand. I put it on my computer screen. Alice in Wonderland warped my fragile little mind. My dad thought it was bedtime reading for seven year olds. I am glad he did. Through the Looking Glass got a little beyond weird though. I will have to go back and reread now that I've done all the necessary drugs. Out of all four seasons, I choose autumn. Sorry summer, winter and spring, but you're just not up to snuff. Love Robyn (Pocketbook Angel is a nice song, isn't it? Talk of all the things she sees...) ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Tue Oct 26 21:10:36 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:10:36 -0400 (EWT) Subject: Sinister: Rainer Maria/Joan of Arc/Tool/Agony Uncles and Aunts/I'm a Tool/etc/ Message-ID: It's been a bad day and I'm determined to make it worse. MUSIC I love Rainer Maria, I'm not so keen on Joan of Arc. I could understand why belle and sebastian fans would like these bands, but I always resented the emo kids in bowling green who told me how much I sucked for not acknowledging Tim Consalo as the supposed genius he is. I saw him live, listened to his records and I have to admit I was a bit more impressed with Jen Wood than I was with him AGONY FAMILIE Anyone need an agony uncle but you don't want to annoy that ultra hipster belle and sebastian fan on the go? Feel free to write me and we'll chat. I wouldn't mind getting to know some of the sinister kids out there. I won't bring up my family problems on the list anymore. When my gran dies, I don't want to not be entertaining, so I'll just take a few days off so those of you out there who don't want to be bother won't be bothered. Honestly though, they have a good point. This list grows every day with new people graduating from the nursery. Personal lives tend to be repetitive and mundane, mine included. However, I would like to point out that apart from Tag, most everyone who bitched was being rude. So shame on you (I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, probably by the same people who don't have the time to be bothered to read about others personal lives. Whatever.) Okay, since we've got this all straightened out and since Belle and Sebastian haven't done anything new for like 6 months, I don't expect to get another digest for another 2 or 3 weeks. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zvoruna at xxx.com Tue Oct 26 22:48:57 1999 From: zvoruna at xxx.com (ZvoRunA) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:48:57 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Jim Croce and other Crooners Message-ID: <473419991022620485793@starmail.com> This past weekend i drove to washington and back listening only to Tigermilk, Sinister, Arab Strap, and Jim Croce's Greatest Hits over and over. From this statement you might quickly judge that i am in need of some musical expansion. for this, i am asking your help. the last CD i bought was.. um.. Tigermilk. years ago i used to buy a new/used CD every friday... i have been slipping only because 1) i am finding it increasingly difficult to find music that i like as much as B&S 2) i just fell out of the loop and don't know where to look anymore for great music 3) i am broke 4) all of the above but especially 1. well regardless i do want some help. i haven't even heard Looper or the Gentle Waves yet.. should i start there? i want something as good as B and S... i want to get those inside tremors that i feel when i listen to B and S. i know you can't guarantee me that.. but, well.. who are your other TOP favourite bands? oh i read mention here of Boys Don't Cry which i did see during the course of my visit to DC. it was.. well.. indescribably horrifying and heartbreaking and poignant. i very highly recommend it. bye! z- ps many of you are fantastic writers.. i read your posts and wonder if you make a living from your prose because so much of it is absolutely beautiful to read _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Tue Oct 26 21:37:05 1999 From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: "Dreamt I was a fireman, I just smoked and watched you burn..." Message-ID: <19991026203705.25343.rocketmail@web119.yahoomail.com> what we talk about when we talk about belle and sebastian Lists and list traffic Sometimes it's bumper-to-bumper and sometimes it's open highway. But if you ride your bike, there's always wind in your hair and you can coast on by and occasionally stop to look at the view. This isn't necessarily an analogy, I was just thinking about cars. That is an analogy... A list is quite the strange organic thing. where have all the jygsawdaves gone? Dr. Who when I was in a photojournalism class at uni, I would always sing the dr. who theme song every time I went through the tartus in the photo lab. or I would say in a dramatic voice "the taaaarrrtus...". No one understood. It was fun for me though. Degrassi & Jump Street Always thought Degrassi was crap Cdn tv, but watched it anyway. Just like I watched the Littlest Hobo. So bad, yet not U.S.-tv bad, just Canadian-low-budget bad. There's a difference. Never saw any stars though, but because 21 Jump Street was filmed in Vancouver, I knew about 50 people in highschool who either had bit parts or were extras, brushing the likes of famesters such as Johnny Depp and Richard Geco (sp? obviously not so famous now...) Hastings 10, y'all. Cheese yum. Currently on a brie fixation. Sushi Yum. Time to brag: I eat it *all* the time and I am not rich by any means. This is because I live in the "Pacific Rim" as businesspeople like to call it. All you can eat sushi and $5.95 sushi specials w/ miso soup! all over town. Divine food it is. infp stuff Labels. But it's true, belle and sebastian speak to my infp self and upon first hearing them this was a great surprise, even before I knew anything about infp and other such personality acronyms. TOM WAITS!!! Saw him sun oct 17. He is the greatest. There was about an inch of dust all over the stage and instruments. He did songs spanning all his albums and danced like a hobo marionette. He told stories about rats falling from buildings. It was a beautiful and weird, amazing show. Plus, Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon were sitting 10 seats over and one row up from us. Ooooh, big C celebs. But I forgot about them as soon as Tom came down the aisle, shouting through a megaphone and throwing glitter dust. The crowd went wild... Pterodactyls Poetic poop all over my virtual apartment. I've been meaning to gather it up and plaster it on the list, but traffic has been high and poetry is apt to be ignored, no matter who the poet. The poetry pterodactyl still flies overhead though, threatening, threatening... Soap and Beauty Fight Club affected me, oh yes. I went off on mental tangents and couldn't leave my seat. Ikea always did scare me anyway. American Beauty is completely amazing. Kevin Spacey stuns me. And the writing is excellent. And all the deep reds, ooooh. Alice in Wonderland I just fell for the flu shot scam (it was free b/c I work in a hospital) and they gave me a candy and an extremely twee sticker of a bear holding two pink balloons and bending down to pick up a third he's dropped. I don't understand. I put it on my computer screen. Alice in Wonderland warped my fragile little mind. My dad thought it was bedtime reading for seven year olds. I am glad he did. Through the Looking Glass got a little beyond weird though. I will have to go back and reread now that I've done all the necessary drugs. Out of all four seasons, I choose autumn. Sorry summer, winter and spring, but you're just not up to snuff. Love Robyn (Pocketbook Angel is a nice song, isn't it? Talk of all the things she sees...) ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Tue Oct 26 22:00:38 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:00:38 PDT Subject: Sinister: london sushi suzuki Message-ID: <19991026210038.10776.qmail@hotmail.com> I see a light there,Ho! Sorry for this list-abuse,you can 'poo-poo' it if you like. (Don't you just love that word? How fancy!) But are there any listees living in South Kensington,and better yet..any attending Imperial College? If so,please mail me privately,I'd just like a bit of info,if you don't mind.This list can be a wealth of knowledge when used properly. >M&S sell sushi? with fish? for real? not the california roll stuff? >sushi is another of my passions. Erggh..the very thought of sushi makes me squirm,but I've never tried it,which really irriates people. "How can you hate it when you've never tried it?" I am remembered of a line from The Breakfast club "You won't accept a guys tongue in your mouth and you're gonna eat that?" My teacher told me in Europe genetically modified foods makes the front page every day,and over here in Canada,David Suzuki (Bless that man! God I love him to pieces!) is trying to warn us.I'm scared now! What if I've been eating mutant tomatoes and an tomatoe-alien baby is growing inside of me? kiss kiss, genevieve p.s I saw a "Saloon Gal" Halloween costume the other day and I was instantly reminded of a luscious sinister girlie..Saloon costumes..amazing.They also had "Mistress Kitty" ones..a bit different from "Hello Kitty". ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Tue Oct 26 22:44:40 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:44:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: FAO: Listmummy Message-ID: <007701bf1ffb$4fb6dde0$bdd3b0c2@default> I'm sorry to bother you Paul, but I do think that this is important... I think that maybe it's time for a listmummy intervention, just in case this escalates, as I don't want anything to happen to the list. The main argument in my favour is that myself and many others only turn to the list for support because either (a) our friends are insensitive, (b) the relative anonyminity of the list is theraputic or (c) the whole idea of Sinister is a that of a caring, sharing community. If you could listen to Robert McTaggart's argument too and then make some sort of solid 'ruling' on the subject once and for all, just to stop any wee battles before they start. Again, sorry to bother you with this.... -- Jason Andreas -- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Tue Oct 26 22:39:42 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:39:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Clown Strike Message-ID: ladies and gents, I've got at idea. How about we settle this whole 'drivelling teens' debate with some good old fashioned FISTICUFFS. Let's settle this like MEN. Primrose hill, 8am tommorow morning. Ooh, it makes me feel like playing Ricky Spontane records! Kerry, I think you should silence your critics by getting your tits out. And everyone else that has a problem with Tag's post - why don't you print it out and wipe your bum on it? why don't you take the names of those who have displeased you, and make them the subject of some proper rude graffiti across America. Just don't do it here, because I'll get a bit sick of it, and I'm rather the demon with a forked tounge when someone upsets me. I'm glad that's over and done with. I want a bad boy like the new boy on Byker, Byker, Byker grove! I'm dressing up as Cher from Byker grove for Halloween. PVC catsuit, and the constant yelling of "forty-nine-nineey-nine this cost me! FORTY-NINE-NINEEY-NINE!" Who has kidnapped Archel? and can we have her back please? Erica x http://www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com Tue Oct 26 22:45:03 1999 From: Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com (Paul Rudolph) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:45:03 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I sighed like Twig the Wonderkid Message-ID: <0056750010407969000002L592*@MHS> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From littlearsonist at xxx.com Wed Oct 27 00:32:09 1999 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: the reason the night is long Message-ID: <19991026233209.7133.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> hello, dahlings. i have discovered the root of the whining teenagers problem: it's lesley jo's absence. for reals. lj writes the most personal and sometimes painful posts ever, but they are always written in a witty and engaging manner. i can't do it, which is why i leave my miserable drivel at home. new listees are truly truly deprived, as they haven't heard tell of the art-girl-saga or been privy to lj's amazing stories. subliminal message: i miss lesley jo! i don't even know the girl. oh wait, i don't know any of you. not really. but damnit i miss that girl! two belle experiences this weekend: 1) written on the bathroom wall in the beehive coffeehouse in pittsburgh's southside: "poupee de cire, poupee de son". (also written, "boy you better make her raspberry swirl" (tori)) 2) an IYFS poster appearing in the promise ring's new video (for "emergency! emergency!"). which comes as no surprise after jason (guitarist) wore an IYFS shirt in an interview on mtv this summer. come to think of it, that boy wears lots of other bands' shirts, it seems. someone doubted the genius of tim kinsella of cap'n jazz and joan of arc, and for this he will be brutally punished. someone else expressed lukewarm feelings toward rainer maria, and he too shall be dealt with accordingly. the connection with b&s is obvious: beautifully crafted music and wonderful lyrics. i mean, duh. ;) someone else tried to defend his/her alleged scenester status, and i think if you feel compelled to do that, it's all over. it's also funny. not funny haha, funny like i told you so. funny haha is that story of the man chopping off his hand. that's fucking hilarious. or should i say f-ing hilarious? oh my god i am officially hooked on the lucksmiths, after hearing only "guess how much i love you." i'm supah jealous of my best friend in boston who gets to see them next week (who is Also hooked after hearing only that song -- make the connection, kids: i put it on a tape for her), and i've ordered her to purchase records for me so as to avoid obscene import prices. hopefully. but i may be abusing the list asking for a tape of their stuff fairly soon... i am falling for this new trend which is amusingly called "casio-core." you know, recorded beats and casio keyboards, etc. i saw the band winterbrief play this past weekend in pittsburgh and i dug it hardcore. um, not That kind of hardcore. oh never mind. (side note: props to the bands h.a.r.m. and kisswhistle, too, who i loved loved loved). oh dear i've rambled on Far too long. if i can ever figure out how to put video things on the internet, or even how to make a site, i'll show you all the modern dance piece i've choreographed to "simple things" for our student dance performance. til then, imagine the best ;) xoxo, ree (who is being a faerie for halloween) ===== ************************************************************************************************* "I was a proper snob in college, as only a future lifetime English major can be" - buddy glass "to me she was just marie." -mersault ************************************************************************************************* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.waggner at xxx.net Wed Oct 27 00:46:56 1999 From: m.waggner at xxx.net (Michele Waggner) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:46:56 -0400 Subject: Sinister: There but for the grace of whatever... Message-ID: <001701bf200c$64ccc120$acaa4f0c@amstech> I know I shouldn't have done anything to extend this discussion of the list on the list, so if you have a reply, please send it privately to me. Ah Sinister, settle down. Again. We've seen this before in the 2+ years we've been together. People come, people go, people write brilliantly and people write shit, we spat and we hug and we utilize our delete keys when it's something we aren't interested in. Sinister imitates life -- no, it *is* life in a lot of ways. Which brings me to the point I'd like to risk making. I've always thought that it's a very lovely thing that people feel safe enough, or valuable enough, to sit down (I picture them late at night) and pour their hearts out on Sinister when there doesn't seem to be anyone else around to listen to them. That they feel people on the list will care about them and they won't be alone with whatever is troubling them, at least in the moment they're feeling so down at their keyboards. I always thought it spoke well for all of us that people could do that when they needed to. No matter if half or more of us were deleting after the first sentence. At least we did it silently, and some of us might have been touched and sent an encouraging word along. I know mailboxes get burdened awfully and I know people should think before they write drivel. I don't enjoy reading about or care about lots of things like "what I did this weekend with my friends and what I wore" or "who can I have a crush on/who will have a crush on me this week, go look and see how great I am" or "I'm a poor penniless student with 25 papers to write." Personally I'd like to hear more things that have some heart in them, or beauty. But some people do and I can make what I don't have any interest in go away with one stroke of my finger like I throw out junk mail that comes in the post. I know people have indulged things that I have written here. So, I wouldn't much think of telling anyone I don't care about their lives because it seems mean if they want to talk about it. It seems doubly mean to tell someone who has poured out real and true sadness that they're pretty much a pain in the ass. Yes, everyone should think before they post, but sometimes the pain is pretty big, I'd think, and needs a release. Who can think then? I find it hard to begrudge that. Too much of any one thing isn't good. We're a diverse bunch. We've got lots of stories to tell. I'd just like us to stay a place that's known as much for caring as for wit, I guess is what I'm trying to say, without stepping on anyone's toes. --michele +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fwnp0952 at xxx.jp Wed Oct 27 02:11:15 1999 From: fwnp0952 at xxx.jp (michiyo s.) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:11:15 +0900 Subject: Sinister: aibo news Message-ID: <000b01bf201a$e7e13d80$1a0ae5d2@oemcomputer> Mummy, I woke up and found an article about Aibo on (in?) a newspaper. It says; Sony is selling Aibo Special Edition ( 10,000 limited ) ! When sony sold Aibo for the first time, only Americans and Japanese could buy them. But this time, people who live in Europe can buy them too. To get Aibo, you need to take a reservation and win a prize in a lottery. Reservation starts at 10:00 a.m. ( maybe Japan time?) the first of November. http://www.world.sony.com/aibo Good luck, mummy! michiyo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mlb at xxx.com Wed Oct 27 03:38:10 1999 From: mlb at xxx.com (Bertha Mason) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:38:10 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Oh, you did't know? Your ass better call somebody!!!!! Message-ID: <19991027023810.51592.qmail@kittymail.com> THIS LIST IS SUCH A NAIL!!!!!!!! _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.kittymail.com powered by OutBlaze +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmulla1 at xxx.edu Wed Oct 27 07:13:05 1999 From: kmulla1 at xxx.edu (Kristen Mullarkey) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:13:05 -0700 Subject: Sinister: I'm nobody, are you nobody too? Message-ID: <004e01bf2042$55178b80$48da0493@hofstra.edu> Hey all, > My name is Kristen and I am just out of the nursery. I live in NY and I go to a lovely University where it is near impossible to find others that like similar music, or good music for that matter. But who can define "good" in this day and age? Luckily, I have the oppurtinuity to work at a little indie record store, that has people who at least know what the music I love sounds like. > Of course I love B+S!!! And I like weezer, too. So my life is pretty uneventful since I have always tons of school work to be done and my job and all. Though I do travel a lot that is the other taker of my time. Well, I was just saying hello to all the people who send me tons of intersting stories, observations and experiences about things, I love to hear about them all. Hope the week is exciting for everyone and something meaningful happens. > Later > *Kristen* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Tue Oct 26 16:52:10 1999 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:52:10 -0400 Subject: Sinister: X: Do you know what i just heard? last year at this season it was so cold the water in the pond froze. Message-ID: <3815CE2A.D6F479EC@utoronto.ca> i remember 2 months ago when i was in the nursery and reading all the posts was just the nicest thing. i;d read when i came home from school during the commercials on tv. but ever since i gained a voice things have stopped being so lively, not just because of alleged 'whining' but also a level of cruel snarkyness as well. frankly i'd prefer a middle path. but i'm not merely writing another post _about_ list angst, i propose to solve things. i think any evidence to suggest there is a direct causal link between my gaining a voice and the list becoming a mean place are only strengthened by: my being a leap-year birth and my being an only child the planets and chicken entrials all point to one thing, THE LIST GOD IS ANGRY! and so, we must placate it with a good old fashioned, biblical, family values style burnt offering! so, unless anyone gives me a good reason not to, i shall throw myself onto a burning pyre in my creepy back yard as soon as the weekend allows me to take a break from school. i hope you will all speak of my great sacrifice in appropriately revernt tones after i;m gone. sk ps, i also found out that cathy penguin is in my linguistics class, which is nice since it makes all my friends oh so jealous. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Wed Oct 27 06:29:57 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 01:29:57 EDT Subject: Sinister: Autumn post Message-ID: <0.5164e704.2547e7d5@aol.com> Hello all; it's been a while since my last post. I sank, submarine-like, into school and music. Thank you, Robyn and Lauren, for inquiring as to my whereabouts. It made me feel loved and cared for, which apparantly is a rarity on the list these days. CASIO-CORE what an amazing name. Everything is something-core now. Just out of curiousity, what bands personify casiocore? Mail me privately, not the list, please. I'll take any opinions from the masses. DYKE SKEELZ Where *is* lesley jo? She hasn't posted in for-effing-ever. I completely agree with whoever it was that said how fab her posts were. Does anyone know where she's gone? LIST TRAFFIC I hope Honey says something to sort this out. It's happened before and i was just so exasperated with the discussion that i deleted all letters relating to it. So i forget what Mummy said. If i can speak gently on the subject, let me just say that, although i try my best to respect you all, I don't consider you all bosom buddies. If i have a personal dilemma i mail those of you that are close to my heart. (you people know who you are) I think that's the best way to avoid hurt feelings when someone who is tired of looking through the day's 142 posts comes across a letter about your sick kitten and decides to flame you. if you'd sent that letter to a select few comrades, no doubt they would respond with sympathy. And Brandt, my best wishes for your mother. My mother fell down some stairs months ago; it's no fun to have an injured parent, and it's a very bad feeling. I can't seem to find the new looper single here in the US; do any US listees have it, and did you have to mailorder it? Thank you for reading, if indeed you have done so. dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From windisch24 at xxx.com Wed Oct 27 07:25:53 1999 From: windisch24 at xxx.com (mike windisch) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:25:53 PDT Subject: Sinister: Fwd: Meaning to life. Message-ID: <19991027062553.30640.qmail@hotmail.com> >From: Vincent Bethell (by way of cook) >To: moloch at hozomeen.org >Subject: Meaning to life. >Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:41:58 -0400 > >Being yourself > >Legalise yourself > >legalise humanity > >Hope you find the following site to be interesting. >http://www.geocities.com/thehumanmind/ > >Vincent > > >===== > >____________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk >or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi-tv at xxx.com Wed Oct 27 09:04:10 1999 From: jordi-tv at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano i Vilar) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:04:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: TGW-a commence- Tindersticks-The Monthy Pythons-More... Message-ID: <19991027120410.HM.00000000001mGzW@mixmail.com> Hi, more than 1100 sinisters: First of all, a relative surprise. There�s a cinema in Barcelona that whenever I come they�re playing great music before the movies. I remember Cat Power, Velocette and Morrissey�s "Vauxhall and I" being played some months ago, but this time it was ace: nothing else than The Gentle Waves. I know that it�s not quite important for the list, but it made me a bit happier. Maybe I should try to ask who decides such brilliant music selection. This is also the place where I saw "Love and other catastrophes" about a year ago, and i do remember it too as an australian film. At this cinema I saw "�a commence aujourd d�hui" , a great film. For me the best parts of the movie were the short performance of the drunk & poor mother. I can�t say that I almost cried, because it�s not truth. That�s a problem, maybe, i�m becoming too cold. The fact is the movie was great, as well as "Capitan Conan". In other topics, I saw the wonderful double bill of Arab Strap + Tindersticks at the lovely "Palau de la Musica". I liked the new haircut of Stuart Staples. But the songs of their latest doesn�t make me feel really excited. Oh, and Isabella Rosellini was interviewed in a spanish TV two days before, so the 99% of us were waiting for that wonder that is "a marriage made in heaven". But it didn�t happened. I thought about buying theDonkeys boxer-shorts that were on the merchandise site, but I found them too expensive. Oh, Arab Strap sounded much better than in album. I must insiste : Is there any secret rivalry between him and our 8 bellos ? Oh, and a satellite TV is broadcasting the "Monty Python�s Flying Circus", which is one of the best TV series that I �ve ever seen. It made me feel a bit embarrassed when I saw the sketch about the "poet" Ewan McTeagle, in which draws the scots too badly. It�s a shame that I didn�t kept the list latest messages. Arantxa said that she tried to look detached when we saw the Belles on Rye, but it was not my case. In fact, every little detail that is able to remind me of such day (a 26 of april) mades me remember the whole thing, and every time that this happen I become 5 years younger (or more, maybe). I can�t give no further explanations but saying that, this april 26th, I became really 10 years younger. I had the illusion of a kid with new shoes (I don�t know if you use this expression, sorry). Well, I�m hoping for the forthcoming Hefner gig here. Oh, I bought "Who�s afraid.." and the new version of "Up a tree.." (not the Pulp remix) reminds me of the opening tune for the spanish version of "Sesame street". It�s not that I find the song bad, all the opposite. And "Who�s..." it�s, by far, the best Looper song. It�s wonderful. Did I mentioned Pulp ? Jarvis ? wasn�t he at Camber sands ? Oh,...... Best wishes for everybody ================================================== Jordiet Sinistre ================================================== Tu E-Mail Gratis en http://www.mixmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Wed Oct 27 11:47:39 1999 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (MBBX9FF2) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:47:39 BST Subject: Sinister: i love you guys Message-ID: <5D2D017BE0@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> hey kids, just wanted to say thanks to everyone who replied to me about my personal trauma, i started sending personal replies, but then i ran out of different ways to phrase my gratitude and i hate writing the same thing twice, even if no-one would ever know, so i'm abusing the list to thank you all at once. most, in fact all the people who replied to me said the same thing, ie don't sleep with your ex, you'll get hurt, lose your dignity, etc... don't worry, even though i was almost seriously considering it, i know how pathetic i am and i wouldn't have been able to go through with something as kick ass rawk'n'roll as that. anyway, i am so stunningly beautiful, that its only a matter of time before gorgeous, sensitive, skinny, floppy-haired indie boys are throwing themselves at me. yeah right!! but any candidates in the manchester / leeds area(s) feel free to send your cv's to me also, everyone who whinges about whingers, is it really such a hardship to scan a few posts and press delete now and again? i can't see how this is any different to reading people's posts about stuff on tv etc on the other side of the world that i've never heard of and don't really have the time to take an interest in, and you don't here me complaining about that. besides, its human nature to be nosey about other's problems, and often, reading about the situations in which they find themselves is comforting and puts our own lives in perspective. just thought i should add my contribution to the discussion as its very clear which side i am on. shit my phone's ringing and i'm in the library and shit again its another ex-boyfriend, i have to end this prematurely, i'll finish it later..... stay beautiful, fiona +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Wed Oct 27 13:04:55 1999 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:04:55 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: why would a girl like that put her head in the oven? Message-ID: just a quick plea to ask people to keep their oppinions of "list whingers" off the list because what certainly is boring is reading 15 mails all saying I agree with tag and another 15 saying I disagree with tag. I personally have a view on the issue but I've mailed that to tag privately. I know it's not really my place to make this sort of plea but hopefully things will be better for the list if we keep quiet on the subject and let our listmummy intervene if he decides it is necessary to do so. Right I'm disappearing for a while when I get back next week I hope to find lots of lovely mails some of which I hope will be witty and entertaining and others of which I hope will be personal and touching. love and hugs owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Oct 27 13:23:12 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:23:12 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Endless, Endless Message-ID: <01bf2076$09e9a4c0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Kids, if you've got a problem, go to someone who can help. You wouldn't stand up in the middle of a crowded bus and start shouting about your probelms, would you? If you did, you would get sneered at and thumped and kicked down the stairs and the conductor wouldn't even try to stop you bouncing out of the open door and you'd land on your backside in the middle of the road and a car would just manage to swerve round you, but it would go through a big puddle and splash you and you'd be completely drenched with dirty water and everyone would laugh at you. It's a bit ironic to call your friends insensitive when you've been informing lots of strangers of your troubles and calling half the population of Glasgow soulless in every message you send. No offence. Depression is for doctors. It is not human nature to be nosey. Or at least it's not my human nature. It might be your human nature. But that would mean it's not human nature. No offence. I sincerely hope you all manage to overcome your problems, and manage to regroup in time for the next bout of problems. We used to have an Agony Aunt on the list, I wonder if she could be persuaded to come back? I'm sure she'd soon sort you all out, quick smart and double sharpish. I think whingers are a bit like cockroaches, you can keep the numbers down but you can't completely get rid of them, and they would survive a nuclear war. I've only ever met two people on the list, and one of them recently accused me of "releasing gas". I don't think I've ever mentioned "releasing gas" on the list, so I can only assume I must have had some kind of "releasing gas" accident on that fateful night. But I think of a lot of people as friends, and it would be a shame to see it end. Having said all that, I usually only read messages from the Rear Guard, so most of the whingers go unnoticed by me. I would also like the words "Holden" and "Caulfield" to be banned, or turned into "P!O!O!" and "J!O!B!B!Y!". No Offence. Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From arpsilva at xxx.br Wed Oct 27 13:27:42 1999 From: arpsilva at xxx.br (=?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Ricardo=20Pereira?=) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:27:42 -0300 (ART) Subject: Sinister: Still in front of "Death's Door" Message-ID: <19991027122742.20622.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> --- Cris Meneguelli escreveu: > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! > ALAN!! CÊ TÁ ME DIZENDO Q EXISTE UMA TRILHA SONORA > Q, ALÉM DE DEATH'S DOOR, > TEM JULLEE CRUUUISE??? EU KERO!! EU KERO!! EU KERO!! > Beijos, > Cris (pensando seriamente em matar o estágio amanhã > pra fazer uma caça ao CD > pelas lojas do Rio) Pois é, Cris e lista! Tem sim! E por sinal, a música da Julee Cruise é linda! Agora, vai ter que procurar um pouquinho...Caso vc ache, veja se ache outro pra mim! E que, como te disse, emprestei o vinil e nunca mais vi... []'s ===== Alan Ricardo Pereira ICQ 7744223 Brasília-DF _____________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Brasil Cadastre seu e-mail gratuito @yahoo.com.br em http://mail.yahoo.com.br +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Wed Oct 27 13:50:18 1999 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:50:18 +0100 (BST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19991027125018.28175.rocketmail@web1704.mail.yahoo.com> Dear you lot, Pookie actually made me very happy by mentioning SUSHI in her subject line. Despite never having eaten sushi in my life - the mere thought of it makes me feel all warm and cuddly inside. And I don't even like fish! Loud Computer Games Scouser who I live with cooks mackeral or something every other day and stinks out the entire building. But sushi is an entirely different story. I walked past Yo! Sushi the other day and felt like shaloming in front of the place. I want to eat sushi on a conveyor belt! And the portions they give you seem to be so small you can't help but lose weight if you ate them. Sushi rocks. I will eat it, one day. Thinking of going to Imperial College pookster? South Kensington today? I and a chum are going on a further education quest today - we could pick up some info for you if you want. Mail me with specifics, do... within an hour or so of me posting this of course. Genetically modified food is great. In Preston they had a GM Free Picnic March and we planned to along, murder a pig in front of their pale shocked vegan faces, and then dramatically reveal that the pig was actually a hideously mutated piece of BEEF, and then force them to eat it. Losers. The Socialist Worker were planning to go along as well...as I supose equal means of production needs to be completely organic... Oh I think enough has been said on the POST! DON'T POST! line, don't you? Honey doesn't have to bother to step in as I think we can play nicely amongst ourselves over this particulary "interesting" issue, don't you? Can we just drop it now, please? Damn, I almost wish Lesley Jo was here to step in with a decisive comment. Or Northy. Or Begbie. Or Andreas. Or even Dickon from The Orlando Whoops Sorry No Its Fosca These Days Isn't It Group. Ah no actually, don't bother. My favourite website at this minute is http://www.nothingness.org. You'll find Social Anarchism on line there. But don't worry, theres nothing about TERRORISM or BOMBS or STUFF there. Its all about QVC. I do enjoy radical language. I wish Stuart would use the word "comrade", "anarchism", "now", and "internationaliste" - if that's a a word. Or "wanklefart". Also "fresh". Not a word that Stuart David knows a lot about, hur hur. Art is not a mirror, it's a hammer! Love Starry Sarah xx So nobody liked me painting along with them? Sod it. I don't have any paints anyway. I do have some crayola crayons though. ===== ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Elizabeth.Kurtis at xxx.com Wed Oct 27 14:51:04 1999 From: Elizabeth.Kurtis at xxx.com (Kurtis, Elizabeth) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:51:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: as whinge as they wanna be Message-ID: <262810611403D211A8FF00A0C94CAF3B024DE511@QUAY-STREET1> > Hola all you witches and goblins, > > Brandt woke up and said: > > >It's been a bad day and I'm determined to make it worse. > > Well that's a good start... > > >Anyone need an agony uncle but you don't want to annoy that ultra hipster > >belle and sebastian fan on the go? Feel free to write me and we'll chat. > >I wouldn't mind getting to know some of the sinister kids out there. > > >Honestly though, they have a good point. This list grows every day with > >new people graduating from the nursery. Personal lives tend to be > >repetitive and mundane, mine included. However, I would like to point out > >that apart from Tag, most everyone who bitched was being rude. So shame > on > >you (I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, probably by the same people who > >don't have the time to be bothered to read about others personal lives. > >Whatever.) > > >I won't bring up my family problems on the list anymore. When my gran > >dies, I don't want to not be entertaining, so I'll just take a few days > >off so those of you out there who don't want to be bother won't be > >bothered. > > If anything's rude, it's your little guilt trip right there. You can't > send extensive diary-like posts asking for sympathy from 1000+ people, > most of whom don't know you, impose on them to FEEL for you and then turn > around and tell those who complain that they're being insensitive and > don't care if your gran dies. > > Accusing people of being ultra-hipsters for suggesting that this is not an > appropriate place for these sorts of posts is a low blow as well, and just > seems like a knee-jerk reaction. > > Like someone else mentioned, if I have personal problems I only tell them > to people who I know. Most of whom are on email actually. Even if we > could say that 'People on this list like B&S and therefore they will > understand me', would you randomly approach people at a B&S gig and start > rambling on about things beyond 'this song is great' and 'so you like > corona too'? (if you did, they would probably run and hide!) But then > again, at a gig there is opportunity to be introduced or to meet people, > and then you become friends. And THEN you progress to the stage where you > can let them know all about yourself, warts and all. And I think that even > though a mailing list is a unique social phenomenen of its own, that sort > of thinking would be useful here as well. You get to know certain people > on the list, or in chat, and then the relationship develops and you create > your own little sub-lists that extend beyond. > > The fact that the relative anonymity of the list makes it therapeutic to a > few people isn't really productive on a whole. It sounds like for someone > like Jason, he gets a real buzz off the random mails he *might* receive > from his posts, but that's not a justification is it? Saying 'you can > delete it if you want to' seems to be a lazy excuse too. > > As I suggested before, it seems far more logical to mail a group of people > who you already know from email and chat, or where ever, and that way a) > you're more likely to get the kind of soothing responses you want and b) > you won't get irritated responses that will annoy you. > > If your friends are crap, why are you calling them friends? I'm sorry, but > expecting an entire mailing list to be a surrogate is unrealistic. > > And just because B&S are at a bit of a stand-still, it doesn't mean that > there's nothing to talk about. Amuse and above all, inform! Tell us about > books, gigs, films, the time you heard b&s in a supermarket...I see plenty > of people posting every day about these sorts of things. If you're so > gosh-darned lonely, organize a Sinister bowling match and tell us all > about it! If no one is exactly close by, buy a bus ticket or drive! In my > entire life in my hometown, barely ever did I have friends who lived > anywhere near me. Get off your butt and make an effort, don't just > complain. I used to sell off my record collection or work overtime to pay > for a bus ticket to New York. Or stay up until 4 am finishing assignments > for college so that I could work nights and pay for flights to see my b&s > sweetie. Many of us have moved our worldly possessions thousands of miles > to stop being lonely. Anything is possible! > > That to me is productive caring and sharing, if you have to call it that. > Don't be a snore! > > love, > elisabeth > > > ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Wed Oct 27 13:57:57 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:57:57 -0400 (EWT) Subject: Sinister: WE ARE THE DALEKS Message-ID: and you will be exterminated. Things I love: Belle and Sebastian my mum my gran my brother liz my dogs the sinister list Things that are poopie: my dad celine dion smelly people on trains being adored but not having a relationship to go with it gall bladder surgery my car God damn it, I said I didn't want to see another digest for 2-3 weeks. Now there's going to be hell to pay. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com Wed Oct 27 14:17:03 1999 From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 06:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: ERICA IS GREAT/ bad balls going down/ my school on the front of the daily record Message-ID: <19991027131703.2833.rocketmail@web1402.mail.yahoo.com> Whoooooooooooaaaaaaaaaa STOOOOOOOOOOOP RIGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHTTT THEEEEEEEERE (There will be interesting content at trhe end of this letter. read on.) Just take a deep breath and regroup, people. We do NOT need any sort of petty fighting on this list - hey, I had the (possibly twisted) conception that we were all really nice, special people on this list.The media only ever reports bad shit, and leaves out peoples truimphs, eg- stuff that they have done personally to improve society, but that doesn't mean that we have to counteract this with lovely, fluffy tales of bunny rabits and b&s. people DO get down in the dumps. A lot. I don't personally have a problem with people mailing to tell about their woes, as I believe that we are all friends who can share their experiences, except we do it long distance, and add a bit of b&s content for added intrest. However, I can see how others do get annoyed when people always moan again and again about the same things. I'm sure that most of us communicate personally with other listees outside of the list(ie - private mail), so I think that if anyone does have a problem and wants to discuss it, they should mail these people. And If your friends outside the list are too insensitive, then why are you friends with them in the first place? But I guess people do want an unbiased opinion on certain situations. I'm rambling. Aren't I? moving on to other things. I think that erica is totally fliping brilliant now. I've lost the list crush page - I want to vote for her endlessly. I luv erica. I really do. But she never returns my mails. :- ( My school was on the front of the daily record on monday, and was in it on tuesday as well, because it is meant to be full of thugs. it said that loads of peole carry guns, knives, flame throwers (as well as greanades and we all drive heavy armour all terain asault tanks ;-) ) Erica kix ass. fat ass erica kix ass. I vote erica ass the greatest person in the world .... ever....bar none baby chris CRYSTALBALLS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Wed Oct 27 14:49:13 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:49:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: something short and positive Message-ID: Listerines, taking a step back to Stevie Trousse's great idea about setting up webpages to rant/whinge/moan on - I think everyone should take a butcher's at www.chickclick.com....It's remarkably easy to set up a page on there, as they seem to do just about everything for you. Pretty colours too! Mine is a bit crap to be honest, but it's still a channel for expression, to be wanky about it. > Erica kix ass. > fat ass > erica kix ass. Is he saying I've got a big bum or what? Erica x http://www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Charles.McGhee at xxx.com Wed Oct 27 15:53:18 1999 From: Charles.McGhee at xxx.com (Charles McGhee) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:53:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: alright? Message-ID: <00256817.00527028.00@dlcr0007.directline.co.uk> Hello, chico from glasgow. not quiet sure if i'm one of the soulless ones, what are you on about? glasgow's a great place to live. seems like i've been given my licence to speak at a time when theres a little tension on the list. the last couple of days posts have been highly entertaining. i know i'm new but i think the folk who say that the list is not an agony column are right. some of the stuff that these guys Brant and Jason come out with are quite irritating. no offence but it true. fair enough send an e-mail if your feeling low but every day? come on. always look on the bright side of life and all that. regrets... had a chance to see b&s live when they played a local community centre but opted to spend my money on a ticket to a celtic game instead, what a dick eh. wasn't really into them at the time though. other bands..... the trashcan sinatras, rem, radiohead and gomez who i went to see last week at the barrowlands. fucking terrific. anyway what are hefner like, i was going to buy one of their cd's after reading so much about them, i seen one the other day, cant remember the name ...the something files...maybe. gentle waves and the tindersticks sound good as well. dont have the time to keep up with these things anymore. please let me know what there like if you can be bothered. good day to you all chico. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Wed Oct 27 15:54:39 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:54:39 -0400 (EWT) Subject: Sinister: Jeez...lay off Tag Message-ID: I am very disappointed in the list. In my chastising of sinister listees on the whole issue of agony uncles I was completely misread. I said that APART from Tag, everyone who addressed the issue had been rude about it. Read that again. APART FROM TAG. Tag was completely cool about this. He addressed the issue in a logical, concise manner and made good arguments about why we should think before we post. And most of all he did it in a civilized manner. He was not rude about it. Tag never referenced me by name, nor anyone on the list and I think that it is really uncool that you all are treating him this way. I like it when people share on the list, but I don't want to be someone's cause celebre--especially when the person who is catching shit for it doesn't deserve it. I'd just like to take this opportunity to say: Tag, I'm sorry. It should have never been like this. So please guys, lay off Tag. You're being as rude as the people I was pissed at yesterday. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tallpaulie at xxx.com Wed Oct 27 16:09:09 1999 From: tallpaulie at xxx.com (paul carney) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:09:09 IST Subject: Sinister: end the madness Message-ID: <19991027150910.97627.qmail@hotmail.com> Has anyone else noticed that instead of our mailbox being full of so-called whingers it's now full of people whinging about whingers surely the ironey is not lost on everyone else. i joined the list because i love belle and sebastian and i hoped the list would be a forum of fans to discuss music and other crazy shit about books and television. thats all for now thank's for reading . PAUL p.s IS IT WICKED NOT TO CARE ? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.cullen at xxx.com Wed Oct 27 16:15:05 1999 From: p.cullen at xxx.com (Paula Cullen) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:15:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: i hope this makes me sound mature and well balanced...... Message-ID: <01BF2096.6EC43980.p.cullen@music-control.com> hmmmmm, i try not to get involved in these sort of things as : 1. it is * never * a good idea, 2. im on digest so im usually about a day behind everyone else, but i dunno, i must be premenstrual today or something.... brandt said something to the effect of: "everyone except robert mctaggert was really rude about it...." personally, i think robert mctaggart was being a little less than polite, but hey, maybe thats just me and my swiss finishing school manners. ho ho. (that wasn't a personal attack on you, robert, by the way, i just dont agree with the way you went about it) now, while im not championing the sort of posts that consist of " this is what i wore to the youth club disco last week. amn't i desirable and cutting edge? please fancy me and vote for me on the list crush", if people *genuinely* have something to say, whether amusing or otherwise, they should be treated with a little more tolerance here than they have been lately. out of 1000-odd people, it would be a little unrealistic to expect everyone to have an "amusing" or " entertaining " life. hey, some people might even have (whisper it) "problems" in their life . does that mean they have less of a right to a voice than the "amusing" people? i think the pessimists on the list should revolt against the "amusing" and "entertaining" people. now that would make an interesting read all right: " yada yada yada, that last post by X was so fucking entertaining it made me want to swallow my own head, yada yada etc" i have to admit that *i* dont read every post from beginning to end, but thats up to me surely? the delete key is there for a reason guys, EXCERCISE YOUR RIGHT TO CHOOSE!!! em, yeah, right on. while no names have been mentioned in any of the "attacks" it is pretty bloody obvious who in being targeted in each case. when brandt wrote that; when his grandmother died, he would just take a few days off, rather than bother us with it, in case it wasnt "amusing", i felt kinda sad to be part of a collective that seems to be so selfish and intolerant all of a sudden. and, no, it wasn't *guilt*. for jaysus sake, whether we are all belleandsebastian fans or not, i would like to think that we are all still people, capable of some sort of feeling and compassion, yeah? i've always been a relatively private person when it comes to personal problems etc, but i've heard it can be liberating to "let it all out", as it were ;) different folks, different strokes an' all that, innit? some people dont *have* friends that they can talk to about personal stuff, you know. count yourself lucky if you do. jerry springers final thought: lets BAN people from the list who write boring posts *about* boring posts. and no, the irony of * this* post , therefore, is not lost on me ;) paula cullen booze explosion booooze!!!! yeeeaaahh!!! "getting beer poured over your head isn't necessarily a bad thing. it's cold, it's good for your hair, and it makes you smell like a champ." p.s. i apologise profusely for any parts of this mail which make me sound like a screaming hippy. im not, you know. peace. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Wed Oct 27 16:27:19 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:27:19 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: read this Message-ID: As everyone's totally lost grip on reality I'm suspending the list. No-one seems to care about the cardinal list rule that a list that discusses itself, or discusses not discussing itself, or discusses that, is a dead list. It's in the FAQ and it's in there for a reason. Can any of you see why? Actually I'm quite sure most of you can, people who are restraining themselves from typing right now, and doing the right thing. All mails to the list will be suspended from now until I think of an appropriate reply to how blindingly obvious the correct action is. As has been said elsewhere, you all get the list you make, and you could all do with a lie-down in the dark for a while I think. The list will probably be back this evening or tomorrow depending on when I get time to do anything. This is not a "Sinister's dead" message, and I don't expect it to be used as an excuse to fragment a wonderful community. If anyone sends a particularly nice message which makes no reference whatsoever to this sordid up-yer-bum episode, or indeed to this mail, and I get time to read it, I might send it on so you might see one or two appear. I'm still mum, you know. Honey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Fri Oct 29 15:26:10 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:26:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: now read this Message-ID: I've been trying to write a response to all the destructive rubbish that's been flying around on Sinister for two days now. I've been trying to be mummy, and soothe you all, and set off things in a nice tone again. I can't do it, so you will all be subjected to a rant and an ultimatum - digest users will get a digest consisting of just this too, if I can generate one. Here's what will happen now: * This is a mailing list for people who like Belle and Sebastian. Belle and Sebastian haven't released anything for some time, nor have they been committed to prison for drug trafficking recently. This means that we as a community should use the list to be ourselves, and as such we don't have to spend our time talking about B-sides if we don't want to. It does NOT mean, however, that we can throw any old crap into everyone else's mailbox. We have a reference point: Belle and Sebastian. It's subtle; you have to use your brain and think about whether you'd want to read what you yourself send, times 1000. Everyone can see who is doing this and who is not, and some of you are making damn fools of yourselves. It's quite clear who wants the list to flourish, and who just wants to drown it with me-me-me. I will henceforth act on this. * At 8:00 pm GMT tonight, I will reopen the list. I might send on a *few* mails that have been bounced in the interim in due course when I'm up to it, subject to what I said in my previous mail. If I don't, and you want yours sent on, and you're sure it's appropriate, and you don't have a copy, you can mail me and I can try and dig it out when the red mist clears. From that time forward, anyone who clearly doesn't give a sod about the list rules will be removed from list membership. Each of you agreed to abide by these rules when you joined Sinister. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/faq.html * I expect no repetition of this tired, pointless, and destructive thread about list content. Anyone who indulges themselves by digging it all up will be shoved into the nursery or removed completely, forever, with no court of appeal. This applies to ANY reference to the whole thing, including talking about talking about list content. If you start up again, individual people or even the whole list will go into moderated mode, which means I check each mail and pass it on - at this rate, every few days or so. The same applies to even the merest hint of a flame or nasty comment aimed at any other list member, and you won't have time to tell me "oh I was joking" - you'll just be gone. I won't warn you individually if I do this, it'll just happen. If you think I'm being a fascist, move on and find another list, or make one yourself. That's what the Internet's about. I will not maintain this list to watch it crash and burn. * Any one-line smart-arse posts will be dealt with similarly, and no I don't care if I sound like a school teacher. Anyone who's at the top of the "I've posted more than anyone else this week" list should see this as a negative rather than a positive: a squashing of list diversity by shouting too loud to become some sort of list "personality". They should henceforth shut up a bit if they care about the future of the list. Right now, my favourite list members are the lurkers - why don't a few of you de-lurk a bit and show the "top 10" how to really make a list work? * Anyone who wants to talk about list content can MAIL ME. My promise, as ever, is to pass on to the list what people tell me. Anyone who indulges their ego by spreading their unwarranted opinions on the list itself - which are usually the same opinions as everyone else's but with their name on the bottom - will be duly ignored, as they clearly aren't trying to contribute to list coherence, but just want a bloody great row. You can have that on many other lists without the irritating intervention of a list mummy, so go off and do it. If you do mail me, bear in mind that M.E. hasn't been kind to me recently, so you might not get a reply, or you might get a general one a week later. But your comments are all taken onboard. Please use the Sinister comments form on the Sinister site to do this where possible. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/comments.html Thank you for everyone who has mailed me with suggestions recently - I'm sorry I don't have the resources to mail you all back right now. * Anyone who's joined the list in the last few months, please stop and take a look at the archives - go back a year or so - see when the list thrives, what it thrives on, and go and do likewise. Those of you who have been on the list for years: stop moaning about what the new people are like and post something intelligent for god's sake. * Those whose inclination is to write what's been called "dear diary" posts should see this as a wakeup call to pull back and to think whether what they're contributing is for the interest of others or because they like an audience. Just because four people mail you and tell you they like your posts doesn't mean everyone else does. Would you read 1140 other posts like yours? This applies equally well to those who think that the list consists of the 10 people they see every week and that everyone needs to know which shops they went to. * Those whose inclination is to run to the list when they're sad or miserable and mail 1140 people asking for a hug should think whether they'd do the same in a pub, or whether they'd sit at a table with a few friends and do it that way instead. If the answer's still the former, then they'd better explicitly tell people to mail them privately or the wrath of god will fall on them. Similarly, to anyone who feels it's their place to mail back said 1140 people with a "hope it goes ok, buddy" message: Mail them directly if you want to be their friend. When you mail pointless things like this to the list, you just fan the flames. * Those for whom life generally swims along and who can't conceive of how anyone could be so "pathetic" as to not just get off their butts, stop whining, and "seize the day", have a little think about what a horror life can be for some people. Have a bit of compassion and stop flag-waving. If you have comments about the list, MAIL THEM TO ME, or be brave enough to mail directly the people whose posts you're referring to. Don't indulge yourself in displays of public brow-beating. Just because four people mail you and tell you they agree with you doesn't mean everyone else does. * To people who've been on the list for a long time: you should know damned well that this kind of action leads to List Death. The ONLY WAY to make the list what you want it to be is to post to it what you'd like to see from others. Fullstop. Criticising other people's posts on the list is a negative and destructive act and will cause a pointless and stupid escalating war like we've seen. Christ, haven't you been around long enough to see this a hundred times? * Finally: I don't buy the delete-key argument when pushed to its limits. The list will not survive if everyone's mailbox gets swamped by over 30 mails a day. This list will not stay a community if the majority of you are only reading 10%, or 2% of the mails on it. It will fragment, and everyone will stop caring about everyone else - you'll all be flying blind. List history has taught us this. So if there's been a lot of mails today, SEE that and pull back - let things settle. Let people catch up. If YOU don't have time to read the list, don't send more crap on top of the pile. Everyone will be able to see who's responding to this, and who doesn't care less. And I'll do something about it, and you'll think I'm mean, and I'll just do it anyway. And if you've posted more than a few times in a given week, and you just keep sending more in, and people complain to me that "someone" is dominating the list, as they do, I will do something mean too. And you'll hate me for that, and I'll feel bad, and I'll just stop the whole damn thing. I'm ill and I'm tired and I've nearly had enough. - - - - - - - I don't care if this mail sounds harsh, frankly, this time. I don't care much if it reduces list traffic to a dribble for the next week or so - it'd be a blessing. If it doesn't do the job, it's time for something radical. If we get 60 mails consisting of "hello Sinister's back!" and little else, or pointless rubbish that no-one cares about, or little post-battle snipes, or anything that isn't thought out and of interest to at least 50% of the list, I'll know it's past it's sell-by date. If you're thinking of posting right now, stop and think if you really need to, and if you're contributing to Sinister's readability. Sinister will only survive if YOU think carefully, and everyone will be able to tell who's helping and who's not. Everyone's eyes are on you. Sinister is the Belle and Sebastian mailing list. Think about it. Several close friends suggested to me yesterday I should shut down the list permanently before it gets any worse. It'd break my heart. Honey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Fri Oct 29 20:16:20 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:16:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: this is year zero Message-ID: OK list opening again now. Here's a mail to start you off - Stuart M and Chris's little column they're writing for the Glasgow University Guardian paper (not THE Guardian). Katrina from the band office sent it me to send along - she says she will send them regularly, bless her. And yes, the irony of it being a diary is not lost on me. Now, do the right thing. Honey ******* DIARY OF A BAND 29th September 1999 Belle & Sebastian write for Guardian. No, really. My first deadline is here and I am not in LA. This doesn't happen to Honor Fraser. It's not even as I've had a particularly busy day. I skived the morning because I'd been playing bass particularly badly on a tune last night. I didn't want to hear it again straight away. After I'd cleaned the house I spent some time phoning record dealers down south to try to get some new tunes for DJ gigs I've got coming up. The band has been in the studio for the past several weeks recording for a new LP. It should have been finished by now but it isn't, although a lot has been done. The other week everyone got a letter from the label with a schedule explaining how it takes 20 weeks from when we're finished to when the album is released. This means it won't be out until well into next year, which wasn't what we'd originally hoped. Sometimes the process of recording can be pretty wearing. After your initial enthusiasm for a new song and enjoyment of playing what seems like a good take, you then have to face up to your own inability or lack of taste. In the cold light of day the tune is worked on until it's finished to everyone's satisfaction. When you are playing you can't think you're good. Afterwards is harder. That's when you start comparing your efforts to your favourites. Fortunately, I work with people with the talent and enthusiasm to see things through and have a purpose to what they're doing. When I finally went along to the studio today Bel was mixing a different tune and it sounded amazing. Chris Geddes to be continued ... DIARY OF A BAND 13th October 1999 The next thrilling installment of 'Guardian's' exclusive Belle & Sebastian diary The band aren't up to much at the minute so there's not much to tell you. Bel's making her second LP just now so most of us are playing for her. It's sounding very good just now, but she's got quite a bit to go so I shan't curse it by telling you much about it. I bumped into Richard this morning on the way to Dublin. It's quite rare to see him, although I share a flat with him. He manages to be the only one in the band to live a sort of celebrity lifestyle apart from maybe Stuart David. Mick gets around quite a lot but doesn't quite have the knack of stepping easily from hotel lobby to award ceremony to party the way Richard does. Richard told me he was going to Dublin to pick up an award but fuck knows what it's for! Mick has just been voted 48th most eligible bachelor in Scotland by a Sunday newspaper. Probably some horny journalist just made it up but it may help him to get invited to the sort of parties that Richard gets invited to. Just as long as he keeps playing with the fabulous Amphetameanies, because that's what he's best at. I haven't seen Sarah, but I do know that Stevie's gone to play jazz with a man called Bill Wells in Aberdeen. Beans has gone to play Northern Soul in the south, and Stuart David's book 'Nalda Said' came out this week, which is very good. So I think everyone's pretty happy. Me and Richard spent last weekend collecting jumble in a van for our sale on Saturday. I put up notices in the University but you didn't come. It must've been too early for you. You missed a lot of good stuff. It's a good way to save on clothes and furniture. But it's funny the stuff people try to give you ... old pants, little bits of plastic. We spent most of the time trying not to piss ourselves. If you have any queries or problems about how to be a student, or what bus to get, or whatever, you may write to me care of 'Guardian'. the band's full of people that have perfected a 'student lifestyle'. What with your Rector being away all the time you must be feeling a bit abandoned ... Stuart Murdoch +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From whatev at xxx.com Fri Oct 29 19:59:22 1999 From: whatev at xxx.com (Steven) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:59:22 -0400 Subject: Sinister: the world is as soft as lace Message-ID: <000201bf2240$71f50e80$e2eab4cf@en.com> Hi All, I was driving in my car today on my way to an appointment for my new job as a massage therapist. Yes, I'm no longer the boy who sells arab straps, for those keeping track. But don't worry, I'll still let you all know whenever there's a mention of Belle and Sebastian in any porno mags I happen to come across.:) It's an absolutely gorgeous day for a drive and I was listening to some Felt live stuff(thanks richard). And it got me to thinking.... My obsession with Felt started way back when I was just a little pup. I was maybe a freshmen in high school and I used to religiously watch MTV's 120 minutes because I knew they might play The Smiths or one of those other bands I loved but nobody else I knew even heard of. I used to watch the videos and daydream about wearing all black clothes and wearing my hair in a funny do(those things didn't come for a couple of years.) Anyways...one night they played a video by this band Felt, who I had never heard of. I remember there was this guy wearing black clothes and he had on this round black hat with a wide brim, I remember him sitting or standing on some stairs singing and he just had this look on his face I can still remember to this day. Does anyone know the video I'm talking about? I'd be eternally grateful if I know which song it was for, as I don't even remember. I was never able to find any records of theirs or any mention of them in any of the magazines I read. Well...things happened and the years went by with many records bought in the meantime, but alas, no Felt records to be found. Then one day I decided to get my computer out of the closet and get on this internet thing people were talking about. I joined up on the indiepop-list and heard a great deal about Belle and Sebastian. This was right when the Lazy Line Painter Jane ep came out so I bought it to check it out. I immediately bought Sinister and fell in love. You all know how that goes. As you know in the liner notes of said cd was a mention of that Felt band. I remembered that video from oh so long ago and thought if these guys like 'em I've got to try and find something by them. Thanks to the wonders of "the internet" I was able to get an lp of theirs, and fell in love again. I feel like I owe it all to Belle and Sebastian, and every time I listen to my Felt lp's I say a little thank you to them. Then I met up with this little list we're all on. Besides the day to day enjoyment of the actual list, I've gotten a great deal more from it. I'm now a full fledged live show bootleg trader. I owe it all to that guy who taped the New York shows("if they play reel around the fountain I'll shit") and them made an offer to tape them for anyone who sent him blank tapes. I didn't know people taped shows like that let alone made copies and traded for other ones. Now I've got quite a nice little collection. If it weren't for this list I can't imagine I'd even have known about B&S coming to the states. I never would have been able to travel to Chicago to see them. I'm sure I don't have to tell you how grateful I am to the list for that. I've still not actually met anyone on the list, but have emailed with two others in the Cleveland area, I'm sure we'll meetup eventually. And for all these things and more, I'd like to say a little thank you to our listmummy. take care, Steven +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Fri Oct 29 20:38:52 1999 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:38:52 PDT Subject: Sinister: As we learn about each other, so we learn about ourselves Message-ID: <19991029193853.29046.qmail@hotmail.com> Miss me? Don't worry your aim will get better. Yes, rice crispy lovers everywhere, I regret to inform you that I am back from my 'Meet the Yankees: Final Destination Maine' Tour. Unfortunately, I didn't mean for it to turn into a Get Beat by the Yankees Tour for my beloved Braves. Alas, the season is over for them & Blake can continue mocking my unfaltering dedication to them. It was still a wondrous trip nonetheless. I'm in love. It's October (my favorite month) and I'm in love. Not with a guy (pfftt) but with Maine. It was absolutely gorgeous there. It was the perfect combination of trees and coastal area. There was an ethereal feel to it - like I was drifting through the state in a foggy dream. I expected the ruins of Manderlee to show it's face at anytime. Plus, there were tons of bookstores there. The old book bookstore variety (the best kind). Oh, how we plundered to our heart's delights. Finally, I found a copy of one of the literary list recommendations "The Sorrows of Young Werther" by Goethe. I read it while sitting on a bank of a small coastal inlet - the setting and the book were truly sublime. The best one from the list that I have read thus far! Obviously, I have changed my mind about forfeiting my computer use and unsubscribing to the list (sorry to get your hopes up). I just couldn't take the pain, especially since I just put my picture up. Well, it's of lil' llew, taken when I was four. I have decided that I'm not going to put up a recent picture of me unless I can have one of me on a record cover. It worked for dear Ciara - why not me? Can anyone give me a reason why a southern belle shouldn't grace the cover of a Belle and Sebastian cover? Plus, I couldn't leave the list right as I came up with a side project from my literary list. And you thought Gentle Waves & Looper were the only side projects to be reckoned with? Yes, I've decided to compile a United States Sinister List Directory. I have often noticed people asking out into the nether reaches of cyber space if there are other people out there who like Belle & Sebastian. Frequently, this is asked half-heartedly since its most dubious that there are other people in Utah (or Oklahoma, or Iowa, or North Carolina, or *insert your uncultured state here*) who also have such good taste in music. With a directory, one can quickly find others who are nearby who are also b&s fans. It will also be a great resource to find out the great local spots that would be of interest from residents of the place your visiting Good bookstores, clubs, record stores, dentist's offices, massage parlors, etc. In order for it to work, everyone has to participate. This means even you shy and bashful lurkers. I don't think that anyone will become victimized with torrents of e-mail from being on this list. Just an occasional hello or such. So come out of the shadows and play in the sun with the rest of us. Just send a self addressed stamped e-mail to InCorduroy at yahoo.com (it's still me. just a different address to handle this project) with the following information: Name: E-mail Address: Current Location(City & State): Age: Where you're originally from (if relevant): College/Occupation (completely optional): Other Miscellaneous Information (webpage, interests, etc.): I will be collecting & sorting all of the information and ASpawnyGit named Bradley has already graciously offered to put the directory on the web. Now, all we need is for all of you lovely sinisterines who live in the US to participate. (I would love to be able to compile one for other countries but am afraid that I do not have the skills or resources to do that. I don't want to be exclusive in any way but I can really only handle doing one for the US Maybe we can compile directories with other countries at a later date.) C'mon, all the cool kids are doing it! If you're still hesitant about participating then just e-mail me so I can talk you into it � We have people standing by to take your calls.... Laura 'meeting all of your Laura Llew needs since 1977' ******Laura Llew's List Member Of The Week****** That list member who has been most congenial in supplying me with needed knowledge. Indeed, they have become my cyber dictionary and resource for most anything. So, that person who always answers my petty questions with a smile (what service) and is the list member of the week is...............Jygsaw Dave................................ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geishalass at xxx.com Sat Oct 30 12:45:55 1999 From: geishalass at xxx.com (Red Geisha) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 04:45:55 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Fw: Tender Perversions Message-ID: <19991029204252.8710.qmail@hotmail.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Red Geisha To: Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 7:51 AM Subject: Fw: Tender Perversions > > > Subject: Tender Perversions > > > > > > > Hi, I wanted to let anyone in the GTA (Greater Toronto Area) > > > know that Momus will be appearing November 24th at the El > > > Mocambo. Anyone who wants details can mail me. Also he > > > has an exciting if not unbelievable side-kick coming with him > > > to do the show as well and that would be the sweet-one > > > Kahimi Karie. I was just told the news *for certain* last night > > > as I was asked to DJ before and during the show. Which for > > > me is an absolute honour that I'm still shocked from disbelief. > > > > > ta now. > > > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From line_up_lucy at xxx.com Fri Oct 29 22:45:15 1999 From: line_up_lucy at xxx.com (Sincerely Lucy) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Fw: Tender Perversions Message-ID: <19991029214515.24556.rocketmail@web1704.mail.yahoo.com> i'll be there, you think i could get on your 'exclusive' guest list? Lucy. --- Red Geisha wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Red Geisha > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 7:51 AM > Subject: Fw: Tender Perversions > > > > > > > Subject: Tender Perversions > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I wanted to let anyone in the GTA (Greater > Toronto Area) > > > > know that Momus will be appearing November > 24th at the El > > > > Mocambo. Anyone who wants details can mail > me. Also he > > > > has an exciting if not unbelievable side-kick > coming with him > > > > to do the show as well and that would be the > sweet-one > > > > Kahimi Karie. I was just told the news *for > certain* last night > > > > as I was asked to DJ before and during the > show. Which for > > > > me is an absolute honour that I'm still > shocked from disbelief. > > > > > > ta now. > > > > > > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister > mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe > sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: > http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads > and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & > sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" > +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Sat Oct 30 00:13:23 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 00:13:23 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Fw: Tender Perversions In-Reply-To: <19991029214515.24556.rocketmail@web1704.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm sorry. These are exactly the sorts of mails that clutter up the list. The first mail is of interest to the small proportion of B&S fans who also like Momus and who happen to live in Toronto, and I guess is acceptable if sent with a mail of more general interest to everyone else - but surely not on its own? We can't have every major city advertising every local gig of interest to one or two listees - do we really want that? The second mail is totally innappropriate and should have been sent in a private reply to the sender of mail no. 1. Perhaps it was a mistake, if so, please take more care. I'd send this privately normally (or not at all because I hate people hating me) but I'm being asked to demonstrate that I'm serious about making this list readable again by a lot of people. Is this how it's going to go on or am I going to have to hit the self-destruct button? Honey Sincerely Lucy said: > > i'll be there, you think i could get on your > 'exclusive' guest list? > > Lucy. > > --- Red Geisha wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Red Geisha > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 7:51 AM > > Subject: Fw: Tender Perversions > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Tender Perversions > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I wanted to let anyone in the GTA (Greater > > Toronto Area) > > > > > know that Momus will be appearing November > > 24th at the El > > > > > Mocambo. Anyone who wants details can mail > > me. Also he > > > > > has an exciting if not unbelievable side-kick > > coming with him > > > > > to do the show as well and that would be the > > sweet-one > > > > > Kahimi Karie. I was just told the news *for > > certain* last night > > > > > as I was asked to DJ before and during the > > show. Which for > > > > > me is an absolute honour that I'm still > > shocked from disbelief. > > > > > > > ta now. > > > > > > > > > > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister > > mailing list +---+ > > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > > To unsubscribe > > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe > > sinister-digest" to > > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: > > http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads > > and students" +-+ > > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & > > sebastian list" +-+ > > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" > > +-+ > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nelle at xxx.se Sat Oct 30 01:05:19 1999 From: nelle at xxx.se (Ellen Jernstrm) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 02:05:19 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Making my voice heard.. Message-ID: <381A3637.6652@hem.passagen.se> Oh, oh. Here I am now. After weeks of silence. Ellen. I have been thinking of how to write this introduction since joining the list..But now I can't think of what I thought. I suppose I thought I'd check that I'd spelled all the words correctly and gotten the grammars right before posting... But that's hopeless anyway, since English, in spite of half a life of practice, still is a very foreign language to a Swedish speaking creature like me. Anyway, here I am. And B&S brighten up my day, as does Looper, as do Smiths. You might hear from me again. If I have courage to ever post again. =) Love you all already, though. *tiddely-pom* /Ellen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sat Oct 30 09:52:34 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 09:52:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S related question? Never! Message-ID: <002501bf22b4$1ca38780$051e3c3e@default> Hi, Yes, shock horror, I want to ask a B&S-themed question, although any replies should go here: jasonandreas at breathemail.net I was just wondering what most folks' stance was on the 3-track/4-track EP question. Should B&S release a 3-track single and storm their way to the top of the charts, destroying such monumental acts as Skooch and BreZe? Or, should they just stick to the 4-track that we know and love, thus denying them chart accessablity yet again. Or should we just bomb chart HQ until they relax their dumb rules a little. Remember, kiddies, reply to me, not the list. Let's try to keep Sinister alive this time (and yes, I know it was mainly my fault, and I can't apologise enough). Cheerio, -- Jason Andreas -- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Archel1978 at xxx.com Sat Oct 30 12:49:30 1999 From: Archel1978 at xxx.com (Archel1978 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 07:49:30 EDT Subject: Sinister: let me in, it's cold outside Message-ID: <0.cffceb7.254c354a@aol.com> *************************** i originally sent this message yesterday, but i'm egotistical enough to think that it warranted retrieving from my sentmail to post again. things to add though: what a lovely thing by chris and struan! i'm so looking forward to hearing more about richard's 'celebrity lifestyle' - what next, exclusive pictures of him on the arm of anna friel? (who, by the way, was asked out by one of my best friends while they were growing up together in oldham. she said no.) and as for struan offering advice on how to be a student, i just wish he'd been a year earlier... *************************** oh, the irony. i return, and the list is silenced. so who knows if anyone will read this. but hey, recently i've got unpleasantly used to walking in in the middle of tense situations, mostly caused by me. it would be nice if i could just breeze back into sinisterworld and instantly lift everyone's spirits with wit and sweetness. (i wasn't joking about being egotistical.) but any attempt at those things is rather hindered by a) becoming newly single (last week) and b) returning to the ranks of the unemployed (next week). q. why do writers never look out the window in the morning? a. because then they'd have nothing to do in the afternoon. i have decided to restyle myself from being just a lazy graduate to being a lazy writer. you still do nothing, but it's a higher class of nothing. there's a poem by miroslav holub about being a poet, it's a kind of socratic dialogue in fact, which comes to the rather harsh conclusion that you're only a poet when you're actually physically writing a poem. at least, if i understood it right. god knows what you are the rest of the time then, a literal non-entity i suppose. still, i'd rather be that than a management consultant. adverts keep extorting me to enter the 'dynamic world of media sales'. i used to think this meant doing a paper round, but now i suspect it's something even less fulfilling. b&s content: i was listening to TBWTAS on my walkman the other day when the batteries started to run down in the middle of 'is it wicked'. instant improvement! it was sombre and moving, and isobel sounded like helen shapiro instead of an asthmatic on helium. i finally bought 'breaking god's heart' yesterday - retail therapy has never been so productive. so i have *something* to thank my ex for, i suppose. next week is my last in london, for the moment at least, so if anyone wants to meet up please get in touch. all my love (no longer any left for a certain boy living in the north of england, where i hope he perishes at the beaks of the york university geese (who are on my side since i promised to bring them south before the summer cull begins). did i say that? i meant 'let's still be friends', obviously...) archel xxx ********* Rachel Playforth archel at iname.com 0181 480 7367 / 01323 893 624 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seyfert7 at xxx.com Sat Oct 30 21:52:15 1999 From: seyfert7 at xxx.com (deb s) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 20:52:15 GMT Subject: Sinister: t.o. meetup and Songs For Children Message-ID: <19991030205215.20188.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi all, I mistakingly sent this post while the list was defunct, not realising it, so sorry for the delay. The first meet up will be on November 6th, around 7pm. Angel has been kind enough to let us use her apartment (around Queen & Jarvis) to have our official *screening* of all the B&S videos. she's attached a message to mine on the meetups board, so check that out. We'll go to hers, chat, eat, watch some videos and then head out to a pub to chat somemore. And possibly drink a bit ;) All this can be called a pre-meet, cause on NOVEMBER 18th, the lovely Laura has rescheduled the SONGS FOR CHILDREN night, which will now be held at the Rancho Relaxo on College. Ohhh, a night of B&S, quizzes and prizes (she's even making shirts for us!!), everyone should...MUST come. It'll be fun. Alright, check out the meetups page, or email me, or Angel for more details!! See you there!! luv always, deb xx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Sun Oct 31 13:02:01 1999 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:02:01 EST Subject: Sinister: the whole of st brides high school has no taste Message-ID: <0.b7611020.254d97c9@aol.com> Hello sinister people! I've been busy. Actually, I went round the whole of third year with a tape of tigermilk and a cassette player, asking them what they thought. I surveyed 23 people, including myself, and this is what I found: liked: 1 disliked: 21 didn't get an accurate impression because the batteries were running down and had to get me to sing it to them: 1 Which was bad. Also, I was forced into doing a concert for old people at a home in glasgow. Which was a disaster. There were plays by little children, where they all forgot their lines, an irish dancer whose music tape broke down and she nearly fell over, me singing le pastie de la bourgousie and having my guitar strap break and fall to the floor, and more singing, where everyone was out of tune with each other, and fighting over the one mic. Not to mention the fact that the old people talked really really loudly over us all. Which was also bad. I'm going to a halloween party tonight. Oh yay. Did anyone see "Halloween 3" on channel 5 last night. It was really good. I'm also going round the doors tonight, to see how much monkey nuts I can get! Happy halloween everyone! Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Archel1978 at xxx.com Sun Oct 31 16:30:36 1999 From: Archel1978 at xxx.com (Archel1978 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:30:36 EST Subject: Sinister: rhetoric and bonfires Message-ID: <0.81fa1bd.254dc8ac@aol.com> those of you who read the observer today will hopefully have noticed the article on bonfire celebrations in lewes. although officially 'outsiders' aren't meant to come, i think it would be nice to have a sinister meet-up for anyone who's near enough, or interested enough. it really is fantastic, and we can go drinking first in some the fine local taverns. mail me PRIVATELY!!!! i actually wrote something today (other than shopping lists and doodling messages to sinister, that is). for ages i was going to write a play with belle and sebastian content, but i don't think it would have been a good idea. i just don't think the general public are ready, you know? and i would certainly be breaching confidentiality if i brought sinister into it. shame though. anyway, no doubt what i *am* writing will turn out to be shit, composed as it in the less than objective aftermath of being dumped. not that it's anything to do with that, but how good can cathartic writing really be? it's my sister's 18th tomorrow, and with it comes the realisation that she has done more as a minor than i have so far as an adult, probably. what is the world coming to? perhaps i would have been more rebellious if i hadn't discovered b&s... well i think that's all i can muster up to excuse the parochialism of the first paragraph. do mail me if you want to come. even if you live in ohio. it's the thought that counts. luv archel xxx ******** Rachel Playforth archel at iname.com 0181 480 7367 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Sun Oct 31 18:01:17 1999 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:01:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: we'll be the softest lace on earth Message-ID: SMALL TOWN BEATINGS well I've been home for the past 4 days and in that time managed to not get beaten up which makes a change, in fact I only got threatened twice which has to be some sort of record. Once was for wearing a B&S T-shirt though ("thats a fuckin' puffs shirt that is") and the other was for being 'not from round here' (I was born there and it's been home for 22 years now...oh well). I have now decided that when I finnish uni I am never going back there and will live somewhere where having musical taste is not a crime and they dont beat you up just cos they dont recognize you. Ermm does any such place exist. 3TRACK/4TRACK SINGLES Jason asked about this but I thought I'd post to the list to hopefully end what seems to me to be a common misconception about the band. The band are not dedicated to value for money for us the fans, and are not in any way hostile to the idea of releasing 3 track singles. Stuart M told me that the band had actually planned to release a 3 track, however, they then decided that they wanted to make modern rock song available to us and so the release became a 4 track. Oh and while we were on the subject I asked him whether in the event of a 3 track being released and the band being asked would they do top of the pops. Stuart said that they most definately would and that they had talked about such things, I you see, had been sceptical due to Bel's stage fright. STIRLING MEETUP This plan has been shelved for now due to the staggering demand (I was staggered that nobody but sweetie was interested). Rest assured that the glasgow listees will be severely reprimanded when I next see them. thats all from me you can now go and read an interesting mail from someone else. owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kschaffe at xxx.Edu Sun Oct 31 18:54:19 1999 From: kschaffe at xxx.Edu (Schaffenberger, Kristen ) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:54:19 -0600 Subject: Sinister: transatlantic moving... Message-ID: Kitties, bunnies, and assorted sinisterines, Well, despite having been on this list for nearly two (count them, two!) years, my infrequent postings keep me at lurker status. In any case, knowing that a number of you live in the London area, I hope this post will work as an appeal for help. I've just been awarded a one-year graduate fellowship to London. (It is necessary to point out that I'm planning on doing the bulk of my post-grad work in the US, so I'll basically be taking classes on sort of a casual, noncommital level.) For reasons of even geographic distribution among fellowship recipients, my assigned school is Goldsmiths College in Southeast London. I move in late August. Not having visited the UK since I was about, erm, 15, I'm not sure where to start looking for a place to live, etc. My awarded funds will cover both my living and school expenses, so I don't mind moving away from the college area and making a short commute to school. Please email me privately with insight, advice, &c. Most looking forward to meeting all of you in a few months! XO, Kristen PS I might have to make a very, very short (vis 2-3 day) visit to the city for an interview at the college. Mark? Mark? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Thu Oct 28 16:32:57 1999 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Jones?=) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Emergency Kisses Message-ID: <19991028153257.15840.rocketmail@web108.yahoomail.com> Hello Flotsam ! Hello Jetsam ! I've been thinking a lot about Art lately. Not ol' BrightEyes Garfunkel you understand. Actually, I've only been thinking about Art this afternoon and even then not all the time, but I've already reached some unstartling conclusions of quite bottomless vapidity. First up, I thought about going to check out some of the contenders for this year's Anthea Turner Prize - y'know, Tracey Ermintrude, the Andrews Sisters, that Momus fella, Barry Sheene. But then I realised that I simply didn't have to; I'd already formed thorough and quite incontestable opinions on all the nominees simply by reading about their work in the papers. It would seem that Tracey Thing and the Thompson Twins have made the Next Great Leap in becoming genuinely conceptual artists. Oh, you'll hear Damien Thorn, Captain Peacock and all the rest describe themselves as conceptualists, but they still have to fill the bloody tanks full of formaldehyde, and chop up the sheep, don't they ? All in the name of creating a tangible object with which one is then supposed to share the same approximate physical space. Sod that. Making stuff ? Looking at stuff ? Old hat, pal. Just make it up. Tell people you've suspended a packet of Ritz crackers over a trough of liquid helium and called it "The Impossibility of Tea-Time in the Mind of A Young Conservative", but don't actually do it, for Pete's sake ! My 'installation' which is currently *not* at the Serpentine Gallery (or anywhere else for that matter) consists of a video loop of Sarah Martin mouthing the names of UK racecourses ("Chepstow", "Goodwood", "Epsom"...) inside a fragranced booth of frozen puppies. I call it "No Sir, I Can't Boogie". Better than gawping at some stinky bed, surely ? Stevie Truffaut said something a while back about the failure of oft-promised narrow-casting in the media to materialise and how everything had basically gone to cock. Or tits. He'd do well to remember Gus Anabaptist's 1977 concrete poem, "where it is, not need be": --- When they start to micro-niche We'll all be left reading micro-fiche --- Think on, young man. Ooh, I see the BWP is provoking a little discussion on this side of the pond now. For what it's worth, I'm siding with the Ginger Avenger, as opposed to Love Troucheon. My blood was positively refrigerated. I guess it depends on the frame of mind in which one watches the film; Lickle Stevie and his Speshul Fwiend were obviously distracted. I've stopped wasting your time now. You may continue to knit. Steady. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From markniciu at xxx.com Fri Oct 29 07:44:50 1999 From: markniciu at xxx.com (Mark Niciu) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:44:50 PDT Subject: Sinister: My recommendations: Godspeed You Black Emperor! and Weezer Message-ID: <19991029064452.99099.qmail@hotmail.com> ZvoRuna, You requested recommendations from the wide world of sinister land. Two recommendations that I offer for your listening pleasure are Godspeed You Black Emperor! and Weezer. These aforementioned groups sound about as different as one can possibly imagine, but they (with Belle and Sebastian) represent the best music, in my humble opinion, to arise in the last five years. But if you don't mind reading paeans of the highest order, may I state some reasons why I request these two? Godspeed You Black Emperor! are the best group that I've encountered this year. Their sound is an ineffable amalgam of Richard Wagner, the Who, and, on occasion, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci. However, a better description of their brilliance is that they provide the soundtrack for the apocalypse. The nine members of GYBE!'s live performances include five guitarists (3 six-stringers and 2 bassists), two standing percussionists, a cellist, and a violinist. Suffice it to say, the five guitars create a soundscape that crescendos (and diminuendos) to unparalleled degrees in the history of music (only Richard Wagner and, more recently, Mogwai offer suitable comparisons). The percussionists typically begin at pianississimo volumes and imperceptibly build to fucking break the roof of the venue or blast a stereo, replete with marching beats, an incessant crash cymbal and a bass drum that seems to blast through your chest with every stroke. Last but not least, the cellist and violinist appear to be Julliard's brilliant but rowdy rejects that complement and drive GYBE!'s timbre into uncharted regions that Beethoven could only dream about. I would purchase GYBE!'s EP "Slow Riot for New Zero Kanada" before obtaining the LP "f#a# infinity" as the EP contains their best track to date, viz., "Blaise Bailey Finnegan III", and the drum-laden "Moya" that sends quivers through my stomach at the final crescendo. However, I don't seek to give you the impression that "f#a# infinity" is pants; to wit, it may be the best LP of 1998 (including Belle and Sebastian's "The Boy with the Arab Strap"). However, to novel ears, it may seem tedious at times building to crescendo and the frequent drum loops and other miscellaneous noises, e.g. train sounds, bagpipes, and drone chants, may initially be an unpalatable morsel in one's musical mouth. Now to change my direction entirely, allow me to deliver a panegyric to my favorite American pop band, those catchy-as-a-cold-standing- butt-naked-in-the-Antarctic dorks from California, Weezer. They only have two albums, the self-titled release in 1994 and 1996' "Pinkerton", but for the amount of material that they have, to put it bluntly, there is no better pop band ever to grace the earth. Only Felt and Belle and Sebastian offer suitable comparisons. And, speaking of Felt, I think that there are tremendous similarities between Weezer and the Lawrence-led Birminghamians. Just as Felt is post-Sex Pistols British art pop that emphasizes punk's melodic dimension, Weezer is post-Nirvana American punk that exploits melodies pervasive in the early stages of "alternative" (as well as 1950s pop, but that's another story!). In addition, Lawrence of Felt and Rivers Cuomo of Weezer leave no doubt who is in control of their respective groups. Both maintain firm reigns upon their band's sound, and both have had members of their groups leave due to this fact (Maurice Deebank of Felt and Matt Sharp of Weezer, now with the Rentals). However, both are absolute geniuses (and Rivers is truly a brilliant man as well - he graduated with a B.A. from Harvard in English) when it comes to sculpturing pop masterpieces. I would start with Weezer's self-titled album, which features "Buddy Holly" - their biggest hit in the U.S. so far and, with its parody of Happy Days, it may be the best video I have seen. However, their second album "Pinkerton" is lyrically different, as virtually every song is about foibles and failings with the opposite sex, but the power pop is still there in spades. And there is no album that I have been awaiting more than Weezer's forthcoming third album. Christ, it's been a long time! Hope that helps and thanks for reading, ~~M ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Fri Oct 29 10:02:13 1999 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:02:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bunches of arse Message-ID: <11418.991029@send.demon.co.uk> Dear all, I have been recently browsing my local book store with a keen eye on new fiction. And I came across a book called "Primrose Hill" by H.L Falconer about a loss of innocence in a summer of smoking pot and drinking cheap cider on said hill. I reckon the author must have been spying on us. I don't know if it mentions inept football playing, Orange Chocolate Fingers or Marcus's Jasmine tea as I've yet to read it. But it seems our Sinister liasions have been documented. Talking of books, I just got the new Michael Hornburg book in the post all the way from the good old US of A. It smells lovely, I nearly went to sleep cuddling it, but I found I couldn't hold that and my Montreal Expos inflatable baseball bat. Oh dear too much information. I mean I loved his Bongwater and can't wait to get my teeth into his newy. That doesn't sound much better. Oh well... Is it just me or does part of the verse of Looper's Y2K sound like it's going to turn into the Whole of the Moon by the Waterboys? Not that this would be a terrible thing, I once went to see Mike Scott's gang in Oxford for some reason. I was a lot younger and innocent then though, I'd never even been to Primrose Hill for a start. And I do like Starry Sarah's new Sinister "guitar chord of the week" contribution. Keep them coming. Can I personally recommend Db Maj 7? Te ra, Martin ear confection recordings ... being updated v.soon (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) P.S If you are fortunate this may not reach you because of the current impasse here. Which is why I have made no effort to make it at all entertaining or interesting. I don't know what the excuse for all my other posts are. Ho hum. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Poppixxie at xxx.com Thu Oct 28 02:38:28 1999 From: Poppixxie at xxx.com (Poppixxie at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:38:28 EDT Subject: Sinister: sinister: the pixie finally finds her voice Message-ID: <0.8dabad56.25490314@aol.com> hello, hello, hello all! i am soo very happy i can finally post. i'm not fresh out of the nursery, i used to belong to sinister last year. i however went away- to lovely california, for a month and was forced to sign off. i was not aware that when i signed back on i would have to observe for THREE weeks! without the ability to express my thoughts and share my fun fare. well after all three weeks of waiting i have suddenly found myself spechless....kind of like when you finally get to the record shop only to find you don't know what you went for. but hey, i'm sure i'll think of something eventually. oh wait, i just did. it's quite remarkable.... the milk ad-folk created the juggernaut known as "got milk" and all it's sister the cheese industry could come up with is "behold the power of cheese" anyhow, my my my....just saw fight club last night. i liked it. i would like to talk about it though. it was quite reminiscent at times of clockwork orange or perhaps, ah lost my thought, blast. b&s content: finally bought looper yesterday. have had it on my list of needful cds for such a god-awful time and my goal was finally acheived yesterday. splendid indeed. alright, enough for know. farewell, shawnee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dbgeraghty at xxx.uk Thu Oct 28 18:13:16 1999 From: dbgeraghty at xxx.uk (David Geraghty) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:13:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hull... Message-ID: <015d01bf2167$baf48b80$e829d4d4@dbgeraghty> Well, having travelled up on the worlds smelliest ever train from Derby to Hull (it's never dull...ummm, yes it is) to see the mighty Pavement (yes, HULL. in front of ooo, about 100 people!) i was super suprised to see no less than 3/8 ths of B&S loitering with considerable intent. Well, Mick was, as he was about to play his trumpeting thing with Salako (talk about a band improving since you last saw them!!). I spoke to Stuart David about some things, and he seemed very sweet, although i think i scared him. I then managed to elbow Sarah in the head during Pavement, for which i can only apologise, although it wasn't *too* hard....it was all the excitement and the sweaty man that made me do it. I will not be going back to Hull again, and i think it is best that i don't talk to any B&S people again. My friend pointed out how scary i am when i am talking to people i 'admire'. Sorry Bob and Stuart....! I need to get out more, and i apologise if this came out all sychophantic and overly twee. i am trying to be hard.... david. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+