From tmh at xxx.edu Fri Oct 1 02:21:11 1999
From: tmh at xxx.edu (Todd Herrmann)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 21:21:11 -0400
Subject: Sinister: I hate annoying people
Message-ID: <00ab01bf0bab$3f4d31c0$06d00281@student.umd.edu>
I really hate close minded annoying people. Maybe I'm the one being
closeminded by considering others to be complete idiots but sometimes in
life you just run across those you can't stand and are so completely
opposite from your view of good person, you can't help it.
First a little background to make this story relevant, I'm a student at
University of Maryland and I work at the desk in the lobby of my dorm
building which is staffed by 1 of the 15 of us 24 hours a day, 7 days a
week. So I was working the graveyard shift last weekend and it was about
3am on a Saturday night so a there was still a fair amount of people coming
in from a night of drunken revelry. I was listening to everyone's favorite
band "....Modern Rock Song" I think and this drunk sorority girl comes up
to me and says she lost her keys in her drunken stupor. Fine, I give her
the spare key to her room and while I'm doing this she asks me what I'm
listening to. I tell her Belle and Sebastian and after listening for about
10 seconds she says "You like this music?" I say "Yeah its some of my
favorite music" She just gives me the weirdest look like I just said I'm
from another planet and sticks her nose up in the air and makes some noise
like pssh! and laughs and walks away.
I almost cried. She just managed to dismiss what has brought so much joy
and relaxation to my life, that is the musical experience of Belle and
Sebastian, in a few seconds of ignorant sorority girl bullshit. I don't
care if she liked my music or not, everybody's entitled to their own opinion
but she didn't have to just totally shun something just because its not
within the realm of her little conformist, sorority world where everybody
looks alike, talks alike, and thinks the same thoughts. I'm sorry if I
don't listen to the same 5 songs that are deemed most popular and played
over and over again by mainstream radio stations. No wait I'm not sorry, I
just have to say fuck her and her sorority bullshit. I'm sorry to take this
out on the list and I hope I didn't offend anybody involved in sororties
that might be on this list, but if you are on this list then you can't be
closeminded so this doesn't apply to you. My music infringed on her perfect
little world and she used the same ingrained thoughts that everyone else in
her perfect world uses because she couldn't think a thought of her own. And
I thought college was supposed to be filled with original people with
original thoughts.
A disillusioned, Todd
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From marcus at xxx.uk Fri Oct 1 08:34:36 1999
From: marcus at xxx.uk (Marcus Omond)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:34:36 +0100
Subject: Sinister: tonight, tonight
Message-ID: <005801bf0be0$ae5be0e0$5395883e@marcus>
hello again my lovelies,
first of all, apologies for posting twice in twentyfour hours blah blah.
now, it seems that my message last night made the get-together in the
spreadeagle tonight seem like an exclusive invites only do, of the type that
usually only occurs at posh embassies and the like. WELL IT'S NOT. anyone
who can make it PLEASE come and get oh so tipsy with us - it'll be a laugh
and a half. shit, the last time i made it inside the spreadeagle i nearly
snogged geoff, so if that gives you any idea...
soooo.....
WHERE: THE SPREADEAGLE, PARKWAY
WHEN: SEVEN THIRTY TONIGHT (FRIDAY)
i expect to see as many of you as possible there. THAT INCLUDES YOU, LITTLE
MISS STRANDED-IN-LEEDS ;)
right, that's enough of me,
love
Marcus XXX
mjmo2 at cam.ac.uk
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From sleeka_sounds at xxx.com Fri Oct 1 10:23:21 1999
From: sleeka_sounds at xxx.com (Sleeka Sounds)
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 02:23:21 PDT
Subject: Sinister: the jewels
Message-ID: <19991001092321.40143.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hello,
As far as I know the Belle and Sebastian Sitar song is called "Legal Man",
and it's not a real Sitar I think, it's a special Sitar Guitar which is like
a normal guitar only it's got a sort of metal thing at the bridge, which
makes it sound like a Sitar. I think. Stevie plays it. I think.
So anyway my estranged chums, how have you been, are you happy? I'm about
the most miserable fucker you've ever seen, so there's no change there. I
had a Stephen Pastel dream the other night, which was quite upsetting. I
dreamt he had me by the bollocks, and said "I'll crush them If you don't get
my fucking motor fixed in two minutes." I don't know anything about motors,
so I was shafted. Luckily, I woke up quick smart. Imagine my surprise to
find Stephen Pastel in my bed with a tight grip on my swingers. Aaaaghh!
Luckily I woke up again, cause that was another dream. Imagine my surprise
to wake up with my gonads in a vice - I had fallen asleep in woodwork class
at school, and was resting on the vice handle, slowly crushing them! So I
got them out of the jaws, after a quick buff they were as good as new. Mum
warned me that if I took them to school they would get broken.
I'm going to see Robin Williamson again, on the 22nd. He's my hero. I've
decided, against my better judgement that I have to get a tacky photo of me
taken with Robin with my arm round his neck like we're best mates. He is
one of my best mates; he just doesn't know me. If I'm going to do it I'll
need to do it soon before he transmutates or dies or something. Is that
sad? He's not a scientologist anymore. Anyone who's ever got there photo
taken with someone famous, what did you say? Did you feel like a total
fanny?
ok dokay, back to corporate actions,
Mistopher Chrispoof
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From hewits at xxx.uk Fri Oct 1 11:13:20 1999
From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:13:20 +0100
Subject: Sinister: French Music and Orgasms
Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB6970C343@park_ex>
> Well its got to be "Je t'aime" by Serge and Jane (and many others since).
>
> ACTION: Steve looks smug and self-satisfied having finally found something
> "relevant" to say :)
>
> I think french rapping sounds well cool, although I'm always a bit worried
> that they're talking about smackin' their bitches up or something unsavory
> (but then I have that problem with opera too, haha). There's a band
> called Ver Coquan who are on Daft
> Punk's label and they rock (I think MC Solaar's on one track, well he
> usually is on these things, isn't he). Don't know anything else about
> them, but the tape's rilly kewl.
>
> Oh, Bridget Bardot too, for sultry French singing. And bits of Stereolab
> (Did you see the review in NME of the new album, ooh bitchy!)
> (oh, here it is http://www.nme.com/reviews/reviews/19990927163405.html
> believe me you will laugh at the sheer scale of hate one record has
> produced).
>
> Steady Mike was talking about Richard Stilgoe. According to my sources
> the programme was called, oh yes, "Stilgoe's On" hahahahaha . In
> depth research is currently been carried out to find out just how awful
> this programme was.
>
> Further reports as they come in.
>
> xoxo
>
> CarsmileSteve
>
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From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com Fri Oct 1 11:46:43 1999
From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 03:46:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: I could be an interesting book. But none would understand it, not even me.
Message-ID: <19991001104643.12359.rocketmail@web1406.mail.yahoo.com>
Some one mentioned "about a boy" by nick hornby. I
like that book. mmm....... rolos. It was really rather
observant, and I felt that I really understood some of
the emotions. I think I was quite like the wee boy in
it (I've forgotten his name) as people disliked me for
not being the same as them, and this pushed me even
further away from them. I don't think thatI should
have to listen to crappy dance like the vengaboys ect
just to be accepted by people who I don't even like.
someone else said that they didn't like narrow minded
people. I guess that I am quite narrow minded, as I
hate all dance music (I can't dance, so what's the
point) and pish pop, made by brainless fools without
any ability to make beautiful music. I probably should
stop listening to music that makes me melancholy, but
sometimes sadness is beautiful. It's far better than
no emotions anyway. I asked a friend if I was narrow
minded, and got the answer "You are right to hate
dance. You are the one who is correct, so you cannot
be narrowminded, as all inteligent and nice people
know that dance is shit."
yup.
Since when were old scotish ladies b&s fans? or are
the bbc taking the piss out of us?
babychris
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From Archel1978 at xxx.com Fri Oct 1 11:56:03 1999
From: Archel1978 at xxx.com (Archel1978 at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 06:56:03 EDT
Subject: Sinister: beeeep, tournez la page
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bonjour sinister.
HIGH FIDELITY
no. nonononono. i don't identify with the bloke in this book at all. maybe
because i'm a girl??? i dont know, but i didn't like it much. although it
seemed to modestly show men as being rather sad and pathetic, it was really
saying 'hey, look at us, we're sad and pathetic, how cute is that? and you,
women, are more pathetic for needing us.' okay, maybe it wasn't saying
exactly that, but that vibe was there. and i am not obsessive about music,
which is another reason why i didn't get it, i suppose. i mean, i am
obsessive about music i love, in a way, but not in the 'alphabetical
classification of 6000 cds and detailed knowledge of b sides' way. is this a
gender thing too?
FRANCE
marcus disagreed with me (how dare you) about rap but went on to mention
intimidating french bars, which reminded me of an a level french exchange
when our 'correspondantes' promised to take us to a 'real english pub'. i
thought this rather undermined the idea of a cultural exchange, but as it
turned out i needn't have worried, because the french idea of an english pub
involved table service, bright light, and certainly nothing approaching a
decent pint of ale. pubs, and tea, are about the only things i miss when i
go to france. now i'm sure french listees are about to tell me of wonderful
places to get both tea and a real pub atmosphere, and i will take your word
for it, but i doubt i'll be able to afford to go again until i'm about 30 at
this rate.
THE FRENCH SONG
this is a sample from a song entitled 'le chanson francais' by al boley, who
is not famous now but probably will be soon:
un, deux, trois, quatre,
je passe l'aspirateur avec un petit chat.
cinq, six, sept, huit,
les grandes vacances dans une gite.
neuf, dix, onze, douze,
tes fesses sont grandes comme toulouse.
ou sont les toilettes? ou sont les toilettes?
la, ou la? je ne sais pas.
this is what happens when you let would-be comedians who can't speak french
write french songs. on the other hand, he plays b&s songs on his guitar at
parties, so it's not all bad.
ORGASM SONGS
well, continuing the french theme, does 'je t'aime, moi non plus' by serge
gainsbourg and jane birkin count? also i seem to remember that 'she's my
heroine' (?) by skunk anansie features skin sounding... excited.
LE WEEKEND
oh no, we're not allowed to say that any more are we? well, in that case i
hope everyone has a very good 'fin de semaine'.
luv archel xxx
******
Rachel Playforth
archel at iname.com
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From Mark at xxx.com Fri Oct 1 12:07:18 1999
From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:07:18 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Eargasms with my mellow waxing*
Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2297F24F@SERVER1>
Oooh ooh! I know this one!
"Rocket Queen" by Guns 'n' Roses. Now stand up all those who knew this but
were ashamed to say. And you, Hopkins, no use trying to hide it.
You know how when you're listening to your favourite band, you'll
occasionally have little Moments when whatever song you're listening to
makes you feel totally at peace with the world, so happy you think you're
going to burst? Obviously B&S do this to me quite a lot, but it caught me
unawares the other day, cos it was Seymour Stein that did it. I've always
really rated this song (more than anyone else I've discussed it with, it
seems) but it's the first non-Struan song to have had this effect since god
knows when.
Rhoda has that effect every time I listen to it. Please release it, Stuart,
it's so lovely...
Was the Richard Stilgoe programme the one where they did something a bit
like Battleships? I thought it was fantastic.
"About a Boy", I can exclusively reveal, must be a good book cos I worked on
it! I had to research popular culture in the time period covered by the
book, what was top of the hit parade, which films were out, what trainers
were people wearing, that kind of thing. It was quite fun, although having
read the book the only thing I can say for sure is my work is the reference
to Mr Blobby. Oh well. But Mr Hornby is a thoroughly delightful man, as well
as being a role model for slapheads everywhere.
And (don't forget) Belle and Sebastian figure in the High Fidelity film
soundtrack, though I haven't a clue which song. And in the plot - Barry
slags them off while they're playing in the shop.
Christal B - you're not getting through to Erica cos you've got the address
wrong. Why not go and check it?
I want to have a baby.
Oh yes - more big hugs for Alyssa Marie - hope it goes okay, honey!
Mark xxx
*another bit of pop trivia. Anyone?
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From tjohn at xxx.uk Fri Oct 1 12:29:02 1999
From: tjohn at xxx.uk (Timothy John Roberts)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:29:02 +0100
Subject: Sinister: PARANOIA IS TOTAL AWARENESS
Message-ID: <004b01bf0c01$cefab260$571d883e@oemcomputer>
>As far as I know the Belle and Sebastian Sitar song is called "Legal Man",
>and it's not a real Sitar I think, it's a special Sitar Guitar which is
like
>a normal guitar only it's got a sort of metal thing at the bridge, which
>makes it sound like a Sitar. I think. Stevie plays it. I think.
is that like on the twintub remix of starfighter pilot by snow patrol wheres
theres that sample of someone saying "NOW YOU TOO CAN MAKE YOUR GUITAR SOUND
LIKE A SITAR!"? because isnt the boy geddes involved with twintub? or am i
just getting confused? about, like, everything?
>...for a
>great pop record with sitar on it, try Ananda Shankar's 1970 album (i
>think it's self-titled)...it's got a cover of Jumpin' Jack Flash that
>rocks the free world.
yeah, thats on david holmes quite brilliant essential mix.
>Oh, Bridget Bardot too, for sultry French singing.
yeah, shes on there too. has anyone noticed how i have subtly brought the
disparate threads of the universe together? sitars/french stuff? its like
live aid. or alternatively the last half hour of some post-tarantino yoof
film.
oh dear, nick hornby rears his ugly head again...
>Any of us Belle & Sebastian fans will immediately identify with
>the main protagonist's love of music, and probably his neurotic antics
>as well.
no thats the shoe by gordon legge youre thinking of. i cant put my finger on
it, but whenever i read nick hornby something just seems really false to me.
and did you not notice how that book is actually an attempt at a
justification for going MOR as you grow older? or it just me?
>Some of us have feelings that we just dont have the words to
>describe adequately and when we try some of what we mean is filtered out
>by our inability to find the right language.
er, yeah.
im going for a lie down from tjohn
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From bfundak at xxx.org Fri Oct 1 13:43:21 1999
From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:43:21 -0400 (EWT)
Subject: Sinister: People on trains.
Message-ID:
I have been working in a large North American city for the last two months
and every day I take the train to work. I am sure this is rude, but after
two months I recognize people and I watch them. Sometimes I wish I could
talk to them or something, but mostly I want to watch and not get
involved, and they probably don't want to me to get involved. I was
thinking about writing a story about the people I see on trains, but I
haven't quite found the inspiration or the plot yet.
And for whoever said that the song "Chickfactor" was pish, shame on you.
You are wrong.
And I am kind of shocked that no one mentioned Watoo Watoo when talking
about French bands.
Anyway.
Brandt
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From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Fri Oct 1 13:40:52 1999
From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 13:40:52 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Orgasms and Dear John
Message-ID: <343F4A3048@hermes.nottingham.ac.uk>
0100,0100,0100Archel agreed that Hefner sing about "real life"
I don't think Darren from Hefner can really say his world is more real than Belle and
Sebastian's. They both sing about different sides of life. I happen to identify with Belle and
Sebastian's point of view more, and I'm pretty sure there's others on this list who feel the same.
Just because it's not what everyone else is singing about doesn't mean it aint true.
On a similar subject, I get annoyed when programmes on telly are called "real life" when it
just means they contain lots of sex and violence and are filmed on crap quality film. Real life for
me is getting up in the morning, doing a poo, having some toast then getting on a bus or my bike
to work or wander round town. I do more thrilling things too but I like the way B+S don't sing about
those bits but sing about the bits in-between.
I think the closest you can get to real life is "kitchen sink" drama. And B+S do kitchen sink
damn well which is why I think a large number of B+S fans, like me, like Pulp too.
The Royle Family was good last night wasn't it? I like Anthony the best because he
always gets the blame for everything. When my friend and I were trying to write a sitcom durning
the summer we wrote down a list of typical sitcom characters, and one of them was the hard
done by character for whom everything always goes wrong, like John from Dear John. We also
had the camp character, the person who thinks he has more power than he does, the idiot and a
few others. We couldn't think of a situation though.
I nearly saw Richard Still-not-dead when I nearly went to see Peter Skellern play in
Nottingham. It was a Skellern and Stilgoe spectacular. I didn't go, though, in the end.
Carter USM did a song called Lenny And Terrence which had a cracking orgasm at the
end of it. Shame about the song, really.
Massive props to everyone
|Robin
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From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Oct 1 14:22:18 1999
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:22:18 +0200
Subject: Sinister: The Serpent's Kiss
Message-ID: <01bf0c0f$fd026aa0$LocalHost@itjfvkli>
WHAT'S A GRECIAN URN WORTH?
Surely Exeter City's new DUKE STAND is a tribute not only to the Duke
himself, but also a tribute to the combative stance he takes on issues
such as Manda Rin's refusal to do swaps, as well as a sideways nod to
the Dexy's Midnight Runners classic DANCE STANCE.
I SEE A SITAR AND I WANT TO PAINT IT BLACK
I like sitars. It is a beautiful instrument with a centuries long
tradition of making beautiful sounds. I'm particularly keen on that
BWOOOOOOOING BWOOOOOOOOOOOING BWOOOOOOING sound, like the first rays
of the new rising sun, but I'm also partial to that
DIDIDIDIDIDIDIBRRRING sound, acheived by consummate mastery of
fretboard wankery techniques. Someone, possibly Nick Nolte in his book
AWOPBOPALOOBOPAWOPBAMBOO, called it curry powder when used by The
Beatles. I like tablas too. I look forward to hearing the B&S sitar
experience. I've got a Miles Davis live album with a sitar on it, but
I'm buggered if I can hear it.
YOU SPECKY PUFF!
"What," thought Alice, "would be the point of inventing a world that
already existed?" I agree that Murdochland exists only in the
imagination of Britain's finest folk-inflected singer-songwriter, the
bard of barminess, Stuart Murdoch himself, but I fail to see the
problem with that. Just imagine if we all took Daz from Hefner's
attitude. There'd be no "Planet of the Apes" for a start.
TODAY'S SERIOUS POINT
Nice to see the Harvey Wallbangers making an appearance at the Po
Caff. Perhaps the Stutz Bearcats can be coaxed out of retirement as
support? Nice one Trousers.
PROPS
I've looked it up, but it's not even in NEW WORDS. Propellerheads is
though. Hands up if you're a propellerhead. On second thoughts, take a
step forward instead.
AGENT DOUBLE-O FAT SLUG
I've got tapes for Fat Slug and David Moore. Now comes the difficult
part.
lots of love,
Sister Disco
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From nickole at xxx.com Fri Oct 1 14:46:05 1999
From: nickole at xxx.com (nickole quality gaston)
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 08:46:05 -0500
Subject: Sinister: l'aigle
Message-ID: <4.1.19991001084559.00edf100@icarus.uic.edu>
alright first off, i have been on this a while, but ive never really
posted.... i just had to comment on this though.
when i went to london last year i met this boy from the london college of
printing, and he told me that i had to go to the spreadeagle because once
he (or someone..) saw graham coxon in here. he also said that graham was
very pissed and rude/mean/just generally not nice. and supposedly some one
else saw all of blur there. and me being a silly american, i had to go.
so anyway...we went, i was horribly dissapointed to not see any world
famous pop stars. but thats ok, it was still fun. im thinking that it
must be the same place i went, because how many pubs would call themselves
the spread eagle? i remember it was in camden.
i hope you have fun tonight and if you see graham tell him i said hullo, if
hes not to pissed and grumpy.
love
nickole
At 08:34 AM 10/1/99 +0100, you wrote:
>hello again my lovelies,
>
>first of all, apologies for posting twice in twentyfour hours blah blah.
>now, it seems that my message last night made the get-together in the
>spreadeagle tonight seem like an exclusive invites only do, of the type that
>usually only occurs at posh embassies and the like. WELL IT'S NOT. anyone
>who can make it PLEASE come and get oh so tipsy with us - it'll be a laugh
>and a half. shit, the last time i made it inside the spreadeagle i nearly
>snogged geoff, so if that gives you any idea...
>
>soooo.....
>WHERE: THE SPREADEAGLE, PARKWAY
>WHEN: SEVEN THIRTY TONIGHT (FRIDAY)
>
>i expect to see as many of you as possible there. THAT INCLUDES YOU, LITTLE
>MISS STRANDED-IN-LEEDS ;)
>
>right, that's enough of me,
>
>love
>
>Marcus XXX
>
>mjmo2 at cam.ac.uk
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From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Fri Oct 1 15:02:38 1999
From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:02:38 +0100
Subject: Sinister: And then one day she cut her hair and I stopped loving her
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Well, I am as keen as anyone to clear up once and for all the vexed issue of
"props", and so I put the miracle of the wiggly-waggly web to work, finding
this page:
http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Bayou/2835/ebonics.html
Not only does it tell us that "props" does in fact mean "recognition", but
it also suggests that "swervin' & pervin'" means "riding around in your car
just to show off", "skrilla" means "money" and "buga wolf" means "a woman
who is ugly but thinks she is cute". Well I never!
Someone was going on about songs that have speaking in them. I quite like
them. Especially if it's Phil Oakey doing the speaking. I think they've got
a bad press cos of that fella out of the Blue Aeroplanes with the face like
a relief map of the surface of the moon. The pinnacle of the genre must
surely be Melvyn Bragg's version of "Walk Away Renee" with that there Duane
Tremolo on geetar, now re-released on that new compilation thing. It has
many Murdochian moments, not least the bit where he says love is like "being
on one of those fast rides at the funfair, the sort that are scary and you
want to get off, but as soon as you're off you want to get straight back on
again".
I had a dream about Peter Miller the other night. He looked like a fabulous
furry freak brother with a big bushy beard and an afro, and he showed me
this magazine he published called "Acid Rock", which had My Bloody Valentine
on the cover.
I've been reading this book what I borrowed off Nick Dastoor about Orson
Welles. When I get to page 199, who should make an appearance but everyone's
favourite French litigator Mme Cécile Aubry?
Can I just point out that Harvey-the-invisible-rabbit will *not* be playing
at the Pocaff? We promised to never book him again after he put on KISS
face-paint, ran amok and trashed the joint the last time he played here.
Re: Mums in pop... How on earth did I forget to include Mama Cass? Straight
to bed with no porridge for me.
Stevie Troussé
PS Mistopher Christopher and Warrender John both back in the same week! Now,
whatever happened to Watson and Begbie? Hmm that sounds like a good title
for a detective series....
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From acook at xxx.uk Fri Oct 1 16:13:38 1999
From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MS1996)
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 16:13:38 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Talk about bum cakes, Campbell's got 'em...
Message-ID: <37F4CFA2.35C60F5F@cs.strath.ac.uk>
Why are people saying there are no aunts in pop? What about Adam?
BJ wrote:
> Viv Anderson. Lindsay Anderson.
> Either way, one question (we're getting ahead of ourselves here, and Belgium
> have to defend a corner) must have been asked with reckless abandon:
>
> 'Tell me, Mrs Anderson, why did you give your son a GIRL'S NAME?'
Oi, that's my grandpa's name! And if he can have it, then it's OK? OK?
Deary me, I was almost threatening there. Who's that laughing at the
back? I can be hard if I want to be. No, I can't actually. In fact I'm
so soft I'm actually going to be used as an airbag in the new Volvo.
Archel said:
> posting to sinister is very like masturbating. no, really. it's healthy in
> moderation, but if you start obsessing about it, always thinking of new and
> exciting ways and places to do it, or are doing it more than once a day, then
> you should start to worry. it won't make you blind (though as ailsa observed
> on a bus last week, the six listees present at the time were ALL
> short-sighted...) but it might make a mess.
I discovered the other week that I am probably one of the blindest
people on Sinister, with a prescription of -4.00. And I am a complete
wanker, so you're wrong Rachel.
Ailsa moaned:
> My secret spies (by
> which I mean I can't remember who told me this) tell me that all of the
> band except Richard have written stuff for the new album. I don't
> really know if I like this idea.
No, but I did like that song wot Mick wrote, "Grazing in the grass" I
think it's called.
And continued with:
> I danced to Bon Jovi, Steps and Britney Spears last night. And I
> enjoyed it. Just to prove I mean what I say about having no pretensions
> about musical taste at all. You can ask Alasdair, if he stopped being
> horrified long enough to watch (although he was dancing to some pretty
> cheesy stuff too). Much more fun than the (cancelled) Arab Strap show
> that we were meant to be at would have been, I imagine.
> Indie-schmindie. P!O!P! is where it's at :)
No, not really much fun at all, in fact much like paying 3 quid to
listen to daytime radio. I don't think I can actually enjoy dancing to a
song unless I like the song, consequently I only danced about 5 times.
Is there something wrong with me? Actually I had a much better time last
night as I only paid 2 quid to hear a quite splendid new band called
Senna. The gig was made all the better by the fact that some kids (quite
possibly their mates) were dancing about like fools at the front. I
hadn't been so impressed by a band for, ooh, 2 weeks.
And I endeared myself to my mate's mate's sister's band by telling them
they were better than Sleater-Kinney, who are their favourites. What I
didn't tell them is that Sleater-Kinney bored me shitless (boom and
indeed boom, Queen Tubs) when I saw them so it didn't take a lot to beat
them.
And P!O!P! is indeed where it's at, but S!H!I!T!E! is what we were
listening to, Ailsa.
I have heard a rumour that Arab Strap cancelled because Aidan's dad
died, so I may be willing to forgive them.
Todd got very upset:
> I almost cried. She just managed to dismiss what has brought so much joy
> and relaxation to my life, that is the musical experience of Belle and
> Sebastian, in a few seconds of ignorant sorority girl bullshit. I don't
> care if she liked my music or not, everybody's entitled to their own opinion
> but she didn't have to just totally shun something just because its not
> within the realm of her little conformist, sorority world where everybody
> looks alike, talks alike, and thinks the same thoughts.
Well, she can if she wants to. But what difference does it make, it's
her loss not yours. The overwhelming majority of people hate the music
that most of the people on this list like, it's just something you've
got to get used to. If she enjoys listening to the top 5 then so be it,
it doesn't (or shouldn't) take anything away from your enjoyment of B&S.
Come oan, cheer up! For me? :)
Songs with speaking in them. I really like the end of Suede's 'Stay
Together', in fact it's one of my favourite endings to a song because of
the general chaos, which the speaking enhances. Or something. Also the
lovely Camera Obscura have a song called 'Annawaltzerpose' with speaking
in it. I can't remember what he says but it's something about spinning
round at 100 miles an hour. It's nice, anyway. But not French.
And finally, Nickole "quality is my middle name" wrote:
> i met this boy from the london college of
> printing, and he told me that i had to go to the spreadeagle because once
> he (or someone..) saw graham coxon in here. he also said that graham was
> very pissed and rude/mean/just generally not nice. and supposedly some one
> else saw all of blur there. and me being a silly american, i had to go.
> so anyway...we went, i was horribly dissapointed to not see any world
> famous pop stars.
Funny, I've seen loads of world famous pop stars in that pub. Tim
Hopkins, Amos Memon, Pam Berry, the list is endless. No, wait, it just
ended. Actually there are probably more but I can't think of any right
now.
Oh, and Trouser's book of rock is indeed excellent. Such choice snippets
as:
"One of the main reasons for the success of Fleetwood Mac was the
extreme beauty of it's female members" and
"Mark Knopfler is officially acknowledged as the last great guitar
hero".
Priceless stuff, definitely one to curl up in bed with on the long
winter nights soon to be upon us. The book that is, not Mark Knopfler.
Alasdair xx
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From pythia at xxx.com Fri Oct 1 18:29:39 1999
From: pythia at xxx.com (Laurel Girvan)
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 13:29:39 -0400
Subject: Sinister: People on trains.
Message-ID:
Brandt admitted sheepishly:
>I have been working in a large North American city for the last two months
>and every day I take the train to work. I am sure this is rude, but after
>two months I recognize people and I watch them.
I, too, spy cheerily on people on trains. I duck behind my books and papers when they get suspicious, but as long as they don't notice me, I'm free to give them pet names and make up their life stories.
Rude? Oh, probably, but it beats ignoring people altogether. Though New Yorkers are famous for that, too, aren't they?
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From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Fri Oct 1 18:22:55 1999
From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 18:22:55 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Ban this sick stunt!
Message-ID: <802567FD.005F7CD4.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk>
Robin 'the hooded man' Stout wrote:
On a similar subject, I get annoyed when programmes on telly are called "real
life" when it just means they contain lots of sex and violence and are filmed on
crap quality film. Real life for me is getting up in the morning, doing a poo,
having some toast then getting on a bus or my bike to work or wander round town.
I do more thrilling things too but I like the way B+S don't sing about those
bits but sing about the bits in-between.
Hang on a minute. Does someone know something I don't? Have the band really
been working on a track about having a poo? That's just revolting! Which
member of the People's Republic of B&S was responsible for that? Please tell me
it wasn't one of the girls.
Anyway, Hefner can't talk. What kind of real world do they live in? I saw
their new video the other day. It involved the band running around parks with
no clothes on. That never happens round my way. Actually, they were too
prudish to really take their clothes off and instead had big body stockings on
with hairless genitals attached. But that's even more unrealistic.
Can I take this opportunity to nail the lie that the Beatles' dentist gave them
LSD in 1964? My Beatles trivia bank is a bit rusty but I'm pretty sure they
were still giggling from being introduced to waccy baccy by Dylan at this stage
of their career. I don't think the LSD came till '66 for Lennon and '67 for the
others. First sitar: Norwegian Wood (1965). Conclusion: you can introduce
sitars without being being an acid-crazed hippy. Shame though - it would be
interesting if the delay on the new album had been caused by the band turning
into brain-addled loons.
Nick xx
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From ar981611 at xxx.uk Fri Oct 1 18:28:20 1999
From: ar981611 at xxx.uk (Ailsa Ross)
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 18:28:20 +0100
Subject: Sinister: P!O!P! right now, thank you very much
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Hello
Todd Herrmann wrote:
> if you are on this list then you can't be
> closeminded so this doesn't apply to you.
~~~ Ha ha ha ~~~
> I thought college was supposed to be filled with original people with
> original thoughts.
~~~ Ha ha ha ~~~
So what was the last original thought some of you had then? Because I
don't think I've had an original thought in my life.
No matter how great Belle and Sebastian are, they can't define
originality of personality, especially when you *know* at least 1000
people like them as much as you do. I don't think of others as
mindless, unoriginal, dull, or whatever just because they don't like
B&S. Or any other sort of music for that matter.
I *do* however take exception to BabyChris' friend's assertion that
intelligent people don't like dance music. I don't like much dance
music either, but that has no bearing on my intelligence, and probably
doesn't stem from it either. I just don't like it - I like things with
tunes. And lyrics. And before any dance music afficionados start
bombarding me with reasons *why* I should like their music, please bear
in mind that what I listen to and like is my personal choice, and you
aren't going to change my taste in anything. Cos I'm quite capable of
making up my own mind about things. So don't try to convince me
otherwise, or I'll just look menacingly at you. Which won't be scarey
at all, but it's the best I can do cos I'm a wuss.
Oh, and not liking something doesn't make you marrow-minded does it? I
thought it just meant you had some form of personal taste and
discretion.
Haven't I said this before? I really should start reading the archives,
you know :)
Some other dull stuff now...
I nearly got to go to Richard Stilgoe's house for my tea once. I didn't
though.
Also, I met Steve Hewitt, Placebo bloke in the Spread Eagle. Actually,
now I come to think of it, it wasn't *that* Steve Hewitt, it was some
chancer out of a band called Carsmile. Doesn't Graham Coxon drink in
the Good Mixer anyway? Because obviously you are only allowed to drink
in one pub. I saw a bloke out of Menswe at r in the Good Mixer once. And
David McAlmont in the street outside. And Sanjay out of EastEnders (not
together, as far as I know). God, all I ever see up here is Stephen
bloody Pastel and Stuart bloody Murdoch. You Londoners are so lucky ~
Ailsa xx
PS French Kiss by L'il Louis may have some sort of orgasm on it, I
think, but I never actually got to hear it 'cos Radio One banned it.
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From steven.kado at xxx.ca Fri Oct 1 10:52:30 1999
From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado)
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 05:52:30 -0400
Subject: Sinister: come to mummy
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Tim Hopkins wrote:
> I forget the name of June Carter^Òs mother, but she
> most certainly was in the Carter family. And of
that would be Mother Mabel Carter. and yes, she did alot for guitar
playing the world over...she was quite a revolutionary in many ways.
check out some of the early stuff.
> What I will say, however, is that my loathing for the
> Smiths is the loathing of a love betrayed. Once upon a
how dare that jerk of a neighbor have called the cops on arthur lee?
> If it^Òs got a sitar on it, I^Òm not bloody well buying
> it. Do I look like some kind of hippy? I^Òll listen to
> someone else^Òs, but only so I can pull faces and tut
> disapprovingly. There is no such thing as a good pop
> record with a sitar on it, anywhere. The only
> appropriate use for a sitar in pop music is breaking
> it in two and sticking the wide end up George
> Harrison^Òs hippy Beatle arse. And shoving the jagged
> end up his nose. In the words of the prophet, never
> trust a hippy.
alright, so sitars aren't big on the list..... however i feel duty bound
to defend indian music stuff in general. what you're all so mad about
isn't _sitars_ per se its lame sitar playing. so don't trust hippies
but perhaps people shouldn't be so hasty to poop on indian musical
instruments in general. there are plenty of bad folksy, strum strum
guitar types but we all know that that doesn't spoil the accoustic
guitar now does it.....tsk.
sk
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From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Sat Oct 2 00:39:28 1999
From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Jones?=)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 16:39:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: The sound of violins drowned in gunfire
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October. October, October, October. Oct meaning eight, Ober
meaning add another two. Ah, isnt this is what its all about ?
The winds, the falling leaves, the sodden turf, autumn all thick and
creamy and running down your shirt. Better go and change before the
housemaster sees it or youll be eating your breakfast in the Lesser
Shed with Swarther of 8C and he has whooping cough. Oh, marvellous.
Ailsa:
> Oh, and not liking something doesn't make you marrow-minded
> does it?
How fortuitous a slip ! I often characterise folks who disagree with
me as [i] vegetables or [ii] having an abundance of the fatty tissue
normally located in ones bones where their brain should be.
To be honest, I dont really know what to infer from so vague a
phrase as dance music thesedays. That could mean anything or it
could mean nothing - pertaining to something entirely imaginary
("yknow - that dum-dum-dum-dum rubbish... people in nappies blowing
whistles... ingesting cod liver oil and swaying in some muddy field
til 5 in the morning... *that* sort of thing").
Alasdair C:
> The overwhelming majority of people hate the music
> that most of the people on this list like, it's just something
you've
> got to get used to.
And the overwhelming majority of people on this list hate the music I
like, so there you go. I hover near the stereo at a social gathering
and suddenly its "well, it is really that late ?" and "anyone fancy
some fresh air ?". "Oh come on, guys", I plead, "Beyond Dentistry
by Hexen Kaiser isnt *that* bad - theres definitely a tune lurking
in there... once the orphans stop weeping, and just before the
buzz-saw car alarm theres a brief snatch of Totos Africa... Guys
?"
Mark C:
> Was the Richard Stilgoe programme the one where they did
> something a bit
> like Battleships? I thought it was fantastic.
Couldabin. Dunno. Youre now almost imperceptibly ahead of two
others in the race for the Top Prize. Essentially what Im looking
for here is simply someone to make a strong case for what the Stilgoe
show *might* have been, since weve already established that no-one
on Earth can recall what it actually was. In fact, Id go so far to
say that anyone who now claims that they *do* know the real answer is
lying and, as we all know, lies make the baby Jesus cry.
This is by far and away the greatest response, on- or off-list, to
anything Ive ever posted. And it regards Richard Stilgoe. This
just isnt healthy, is it ?
Paul R:
> The "WHO" referred to in the text is an
> acronym for the well-known(apparently not) World
> Health Organization
[snip]
> I am in a
> fraternity and it has been a wonderful experience
Did they give you a keg in exchange for your sense of humour ? No,
Im kidding. Im having you on. Im pulling your chain. No,
*seriously*, Im *joking*.
Marcus O:
> i think french rap sounds really suave and sexy
> like rap in most other languages, works best when the rapper
> just constructs complex plays on words, and puns away for a while
> (à la tribe called quest)
My mum used to make that. Duck a la Tribe Called Quest. Not edible
in the strictest sense of the word.
But hes right of course. MC Solaars yr man in that regard, and
that fella "Prose Combat" is what youll want to be carrying on with.
Some Tories got together today to choose their man for this London
Mayor business. I see around 1% of the ballot papers were spoiled.
Ive often wondered what this entails exactly. I mean, I think I
know what *soiling* a ballot paper would involve. Just how difficult
is it to spoil your voting slip ? Suffer a stroke just as you make
your cross ? Give it all the sweeties it wants until you
fundamentally weaken its character ? Suggestions to the usual PO
Box.
Courage, little ones.
Mike.
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From i_love_moon at xxx.com Sat Oct 2 01:40:22 1999
From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (Johan Nilsson)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 02:40:22 +0200
Subject: Sinister: banana peels we slipped on and egg shells we tippy toed over
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evil belle's and hysterical sebastian's,
i broke up with my first ever girl friend five days ago. even though i know it was something i had to do it is still eating me up. not only does nearly all of my friends say that my action was odd and even dumb, i now feel totally empty. between the two of us there was just a psycial attraction, nothing more. profoundness was lost after a while. can two people live on that? at the moment i feel like i should have stopped and hold on to that, cuz now i fear i will die like van gogh.
has anyone here heard the new terry callier cd? i really love the song on it that he made with beth orton, it is so wonderful. i am thinking of getting the album just because of that song. but that song reminds me of my ex.
i'm turning 20 in a few days. it is so depressing. luckly i am going to visit my sister in stockholm and that will be fun. otherwise i would get really sad. to top it, i am going to see arab strap play at cirkus, yippie.
matane,
johan.
ps. kin. no, i didn't make it - i didn't find any batteries. i am so sorry. the gig however was wonderful and i did record arab strap, but just like i had calculated the batteries were almost dead afterwards. i should have kept my mouth shut.
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From grey7 at xxx.net Sat Oct 2 07:27:59 1999
From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 02:27:59 -0400
Subject: Sinister: All you sinister people...
Message-ID: <01a801bf0c9f$4644a360$17381fce@default>
Beatles and Acid
Joy to all my sinister brothers and sisters, especially the ones that are
feeling a bit down . Nick wrote that the LSD didn't start until after 65 for
the Beatles. Pulling out my copy of A Hard Day's Write, an exhaustive book
with the story behind every single beatles song I see it repeats the story
about the dentist friend spiking their coffee...
However, it has an interesting story about how in the august of 65 they
rented a house and in the company of Peter Fonda and others dropped acid for
the first time, all save Paul that is. Helluva book and I recommend it to
any diehard Beatles fan. Norwegian Wood was brilliant wasn't it? And it was
written before their trip so Nick's still right. Hmmm, never really saw the
Beatles as drug-addled hippies anyways (drug-addled at times yes,
hippies...that's a bit of a loaded term). As to the Beach Boys-Beatles
discussions the groups had alot of mutual respect for each other, hell Mike
Love and the Beatles hung out together when they all went to India with
Donovan and others during their experiments with Eastern philosophy.
College
I'm fairly lucky I think. I was dismayed when I first got to college and
realized it wasn't the haven for positive, nice, tolerant people I had
dreamed of it as. But I've learned that the sad fact is that we're all
human. Even those poor close-minded bastards I have to deal with everyday.
At least I'm blessed with a college radio station that plays a bit of B&S.
Okay, it plays alot of b.s. too, but on the whole it's a rather nice station
where one can hear all sorts of cool stuff instead of blocks of mass
marketed *alterna-teen* rock or pop metal. Which I must say I listen to and
enjoy a bit of that too, I just want a world where I can hear music as
eclectic as my tastes. Indie (whatever that is) and Mainstream(whatever that
is).
Hippies & Sitars
The hippies are taking a bit of a knocking eh? I'll admit some respect
for what the hippies accomplished (turning american on it's ear for a start)
but I suppose in retrospect if they'd had had their shit together they'd of
made a bit more of an impact in history instead of just ending as a bit of a
joke. Favorite description of what happened to the movement : "We were gonna
change the world, free everyone's mind, and overturn a facist establishment.
What happened? We all just kinda got high and forgot" Sitars can be a bit
much can't they? I won't say I hate the things, but George really should
have left it at home for a few of those songs.
Music
Judging someone by their music makes about as much sense as judging by
their clothes. I'm sure most of the list would hate half of what I consider
my favorite bands. However, I see Beth Orton gets mentioned alot on the
list. She *is* one of my current favorites, what a talent. Anyone else think
K's Choice is brilliant(or did I just ostricize myself there?)?
Happy Happy, Joy Joy
To all you wonderful sinister people, cheer up boys and girls. Don't let
the bastards get you down because that's when they win.Nuts, it's two thirty
in the morning and I've been rambling a bit,time to crash.
Luck all!-Jim
"We're all out there somewhere, waiting to happen"- Jeff Noon
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From craigrm at xxx.uk Sat Oct 2 10:09:32 1999
From: craigrm at xxx.uk (Craig)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 10:09:32 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Yo !, bum rush the list.
Message-ID: <000c01bf0cb6$1762df00$f6e693c3@orlando1>
Is "bum rush" two words or one ?, it's probably not all that important right
now.
On separate occasions yesterday two casual work acquaintances asked "how's
married life was treating you ?".
I just smiled and said "it's great" and they seemed to go away satisfied.
I'm not married though - so I've no idea where that came from.
ALCOHOL I
Don't do it kidz*, it makes you feel ill and behave strangely.
ALCOHOL II
Tiger Milk (product of Slovenia) exists.
It can be obtained from the more exclusive Off-Licenses (see jLucy & co for
address details). It's rough tasting and plainly bottled but I urge everyone
to purchase a crate, even if it's just to support the struggling Eastern
European B&S themed vineyards.
ALCOHOL III
be warned: when combined with tiredness, emotional frailty and the most
warped decision making process outside the military, it can lead to
directionless wandering around unremarkable London suburbs relieved only by
the early opening of Tube Stations.
I assume Marcus had a incident free night though as I seemed to attract the
strange people who normally target him. I've a handy tip for early morning
revellers - those self contained and cleaning loos may cost 20p but they're
great for hiding in when trying to avoid scary street folk.
Anyway sorry to all concerned, I was probably quite rude.
BUT WHILE I
HAVE YOUR ATTENTION THERE IS
A SMALL
FAVOUR I'D like TO ASK
THE
L
I
S
T
Next week is possibly my final week @ the job I've been doing for about 3
years. And as is the custom I'm planning to get rather drunk with my
workmates on my final day. I'll be sending out a mail to invite them all
along and would very much like to fill it with clever B&S quotes. So if
anyone had any ideas or can compose a great little mail for me then let me
know. Please remember that apart from one fellow listee who'd probably get
the mail and understand it I don't want to confuse and scare people so
nothing too morbid or bizarre thanks.
Sleep - that's what I want. Bye.
I like feather boas now,
Craig xoxox
* I don't mean this obviously.
- stuck shift key (c) G.Dickie 1999
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From l2davies at xxx.ca Sat Oct 2 11:26:52 1999
From: l2davies at xxx.ca (all hype)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 03:26:52 -0700
Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian in Toronto
Message-ID: <001701bf0cc0$a57c3ca0$408dfad1@pathcom.com>
Hello,
Well though the band won't be appearing, mark November 4th on your
calendars...I am hosting a Belle and Sebastian night called Songs For
Children at Vox Central, 585 Yonge Street in Toronto. I would love it if
anyone of you who can make it would come out. It will be a great night
filled with Belle and Sebastian of course, plus other Jeepster acts, Matador
sweeties, as well as great Scots like Mogwai, the Pastels, Arab Strap and
the list goes on. We will have quizzes, giveaways and videos to watch if
you're not the type to get up and dance. It should be a great time, and Vox
is quite a nice club. If you need anymore details, feel free to email me
davies at pathcom.com
Take care,
Laura
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From marcus at xxx.uk Sat Oct 2 08:17:27 1999
From: marcus at xxx.uk (Marcus Omond)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 08:17:27 +0100
Subject: Sinister: and finally...
Message-ID: <000901bf0ca6$509c7ac0$df28893e@marcus>
right, i'm off to cambridge now, and so i'm going to have to unsub. thank
you to everyone for making things so much more interesting around here with
your wonderful posts, and massive props and a half to everyone who turned up
at the pub last night to see me off. i got the last bus home, after sitting
at the bus stop for half an hour with some weirdo walking around me for
about ten minutes talking into thin air: 'yes steve, i've fucking got it.
don't fucking do this - i'll be round in ten minutes. steve, for fuck's
sake!' maybe he was talking about the book he'd written, 'mothers in pop',
and he was talking telepathically to mr troussé. or maybe not.
anyway, if anyone wants to get in touch in cambridge (ha ha) my e-mail is
mjmo2 at cam.ac.uk.
all that it remains is for me to tell everyone how much i like natasha. i
was sitting downstairs writing a song, and the doorbell rang. there was a
gentleman outside with a rather attractive bouquet of blue and white
flowers, and so i said 'wrong address, mate'. but no! the heavenly, lovely
and for some stupid reason far too far away natasha had sent them to me. so
she gets the maddest props of all. maybe she'll remember how to post some
day, and you'll all see how great she is again.
right, enough of that,
see you all soon,
a whole lodda love,
Marcus XXX
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From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Sat Oct 2 14:26:20 1999
From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE DICKIE)
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 06:26:20 PDT
Subject: Sinister: TASTE THE WASTE
Message-ID: <19991002132621.25745.qmail@hotmail.com>
YO YO YO
I FEEL HAPPY AT THE MO
IT IS NOT A GOOD HAPPY THOUGH
IT IS ONE OF THOSE
OTT HAPPY MOMENTS
THE ONES CAUSED BY A BUILD UP OF UNLEASHED NERVOUS ENERGY
YOU FEEL GREAT FOR A WHILE
THEN YOU JUST FEEL LIKE A TWAT
SORT OF LIKE SNIFFING POPPERS
SORT OF LIKE WHEN YOU GET IN TO A B&S SONG SO MUCH YOU ARE AHEAD OF IT
YOU WANT IT TO SPEED UP AND EXPLODE
CRAZY CRAZY
HAPPY
KOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
TWAT
MMMMMMMMMMMM
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
AND THAT'S THAT
I JUST THOUGHT I'D SHARE THAT WITH YOU
LOVE
AND THE FIRST TIME YOU DRANK COKE
GEORGIE AND HIS MAGIC TEAT PIPET
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From eahostet at xxx.com Sat Oct 2 17:53:28 1999
From: eahostet at xxx.com (E. A. Hostetter)
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 09:53:28 -0700
Subject: Sinister: B&S Bowl Cut
Message-ID: <37F63888.846648F4@interlog.com>
Oh hoo hoo
I found this hilarious quote in an article about called
"FUCK NEW YORK, PARIS, MILAN, AND LONDON
Seattle is the Fashion Hotbed of the World!"
"In another sublime development, gym-pumped party
boys are becoming rarer than hens' teeth as men
make a dashing turn toward the always-enticing
scrawny little boy look. Any hipster worth his or her
martini knows that nothing gets you laid like skinny,
and the lines to the bench press are shrinking as
Seattle's most nubile male flesh eschew their
muscles for that oh-so-sexy speed freak chic!
Topping off this look is an uneven Belle and
Sebastian bowl cut, a belly-revealing undersized
vintage tee, and a heavily creased pair of tweed
plus-fours and/or polyester cigarette pants with
high-ankle monk strap boots by Bulo. Luscious!"
There is a young man who lives in my building who had what I thought was
a B&S bowl but in the end he looked more like an indie pop boy
transplanted onto "That 70s Show."
You can find the article it at:
http://www.thestranger.com/AE/artlead.html
bye!
off to pack my precious few possessions
ea
p.s. thanks for the list-crush votes, boys/girls...i will be off to
Montreal with 'l'amour' on my mind...
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From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sat Oct 2 14:56:41 1999
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 14:56:41 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Help me god!
Message-ID: <000701bf0cdd$f5466400$bdd4b0c2@default>
Well, I'm about to head off to my first Sinister meeting, in Glasgow.
I just hope that someone turns up :)
I'll let you know, cheerio
-- Jason Andreas
-- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people
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From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Sat Oct 2 20:20:23 1999
From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 15:20:23 EDT
Subject: Sinister: The dream state (and Richard Stillgoe)
Message-ID: <72a094a4.2527b4f7@aol.com>
Hola amigos (amigas?)
Look,I may have dreamed this because I got up and checked my mail really
early this morning,but were people asking abt a Richard Stillgoe tv prog?(I
bloody hope so or this mail will be total gibberish)(well,more gibberish than
usual)
LEAN CLOSER KIDS
It was called "Stillgoes On"and did indeed feature that battleship game also
amusing anagrams,limericks and the bearded one playing self-composed tunes on
his upright organ(Ooer!).Is this Britain's most versatile man?.Am I sad
posting on a saturday night?Who shot JR?
Steve S xx.
Q.What happened to Jesus when he went to Mount Olive?
A.Popeye kicked the shit out of him.Arf!!
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From pamelab at xxx.com Sat Oct 2 20:25:12 1999
From: pamelab at xxx.com (pamela berry)
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 20:25:12 +0100
Subject: Sinister: ease a mint into your mouth
Message-ID: <37F65C18.9847900D@mcmail.com>
hello all,
it's been ages. what's the word? it's thunderbird. I know that, I was
just making conversation. anyway...
don't despair, todd herrmann. I had your exact job at the university of
maryland many moons ago. this kind of thing will put hair on your chest.
worked for me. if I'm not mistaken and the job hasn't changed too much,
aren't you pretty much the mailmeister for the dorm? no time for crying
over music differences when you've got that much power. it would be a
damn shame if chickyboom lost her keys and that care package full of
sweets and money from mom and dad in the same week, wouldn't it? back in
my days at university, when dinosaurs regularly hogged the front row at
the hoff's midnight flick, the mail system there was incredibly
reliable. I once wrote a friend's address on a sock with a magic marker
and dropped it in the mail just to see if they'd send it. I was not
disappointed. oh the stories I could tell!
christopher told us about his good friend robin williams. I have that
kind of relationship with steve buscemi and steve martin, both of whom
I've yet to meet. so I've never had my picture taken with them, but in
one of my many many spy dreams steve martin and I were being chased by
the baddies, and while hiding underwater in a swimming pool together, he
asked me to marry him. imagine my involuntary giddiness when I watched
that omnibus on him the other night and found out he's single again!
alas, I'm not. doesn't that just figure? our timing's always off, me and
steve. we're like two ships. the lambchop and pet sounds box set stuff
on the soundtrack of that show helped check my spiral into depression.
I'm with trousers, the royle family is indeed fantastic. sometimes I
can't make out immediately what ricky tomlinson's saying. on this week's
show I'm sure I heard him exclaim 'mick cooke's grazing in the grass, my
ass.' he's not wrong. that fabulous song was originally made hugely
popular by hugh masekela in 1968, it's sold millions of copies. in 1969,
the friends of distinction did a cover of it that stayed in the charts
for weeks, adding crazy groovy words, like 'grazin' in the grass is a
gas baby can you dig it!' this version with lyrics is the one I'd really
love to hear mick and friends do. can I get a witness?
to kick off october, the hubby and I went to audition a chi-chi
turntable at a hi-fi store yesterday afternoon. after the salesman
doesn't recognize the records you bring (what!? no hotel california?
good god man, where's the pink floyd?) you get to sit in a big room by
yourselves. there's a big black leather couch, a coffee table with a
bigass bowl of mints on it, and a door with windows so the salesguy can
keep an eye on you and his overpriced stuff. and way up there ahead of
you sits a turntable and an amp and some speakers, apparently at the
optimum distance away to hear it all perfectly if you're sitting exactly
in the middle of the couch (knowledge that will come in handy if mike
and I ever move to a park or a large auditorium). the stylus cartridge
alone was £800, which doesn't really meet my needs. after a boozy night
out sometimes I need to drop the needle on the mat a couple of times
before actually finding the edge of the record.
naturally we took along some of our favorite records. we listened to
'ease your feet into the sea' really fucking loud and then that thing
happened where everything was perfect and right in the world, and I said
to myself, self, you should post to the list that brought you and the
hubby together in the first place and introduced you to lovely and
hilarious people and paved the way for you to have that sexy dream about
peter miller. awwwww. and then someone, I'm not naming names, ruined the
mood by putting a 15-year-old seven inch on by everyone's favorite
Effeminate Futurists. From The Eighties. the salesguy, not passing up
his only opportunity to bond, stormed in with an excited 'hey I have
this album!' our makeout session on the big black couch was over, just
like that.
next week: we test-drive a porsche armed only with a fourth generation
tape copy of tigermilk! I'll let you know how it sounds.
xopam
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From GBCH at xxx.uk Sat Oct 2 21:06:53 1999
From: GBCH at xxx.uk (Chris_t_opher)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 21:06:53 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Tall tales - by a tall person...
Message-ID: <005a01bf0d11$ac40db80$7c57883e@homebuilt>
Tra la la..
MY NEW BAND
I know, i know, that heading should be followed by the standard request to
come and watch my band play in a pub in Blackburn on Sunday night... but i
dont care.
My (new/old but with less people in) band started today and already, im not
into it. We happily played away, in a musty cellar for 4 hours. Got through
3 song's 'n' all. One was a Goo Goo Dolls cover, to give you some indication
or sound.
The problem was, there wasnt a spark in it. We ALREADY sound like your
standard issue boring rock band. Like Embrace and Oasis, but with EVEN less
*whomph*. Impossible, i know, but we somehow managed!
Oh how i long for a band with a difference. A catchy, not stolen song. A
change in tempo. Something that makes me want to play it 20 times. ANYTHING!
I cant do anything about it cos im the bass player and am never seen as the
creative influence - im just ignored when i make the most blatently obvious
statement about the song "Desperately needing a break right there"
Oh well. Anyone know any good 4 Tracks that i can do *my own stuff* on?
AND, IN GENERAL...
What makes something good? Like Belle and Sebastian. What makes us get all
obsessive about them? Why are some people soooooo inventive and others, just
your standard-issue copycats? I try to be a genius, but i know i never can.
Everything ive ever done, whether it be a sport or even just learning to
drive, i've never got past the point of being "good". At chess, i was ranked
788th in Scottish schools, but why not any higher.
So, to end, there is a chance that i really excel at something, but there
are so many *things* out there, i will probably never find it. Why is God so
crue?
This was as pointless as an orange.
Chris_t_opher - the eternal never-genius and athiest.
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The East River Pipe Community -
Http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/EastRiverPipe
You've got to go - its only natural.
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From meepmeepmeepmeep at xxx.com Sat Oct 2 22:14:11 1999
From: meepmeepmeepmeep at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mr=20Beaker?=)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 14:14:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: Who'd Piss in a Pilgrims Pot ?
Message-ID: <19991002211411.10966.rocketmail@web1403.mail.yahoo.com>
Peter Miller enquired...
>WHAT'S A GRECIAN URN WORTH?
Six birds in a bush with beer and skittles please.
>Surely Exeter City's new DUKE STAND is a tribute not
>only to the Duke himself...
Blah blah Blah...
I heard they were going to name it after Mr Tim, but
Hopkins Stand is a contradiction in terms. boom boom.
i think Katrina should start a list-collection so that
we can buy out one of the less well off footy clubs in
Scotland. Rather than the somewhat dead Poetry Parrot
sketch, we could take it in turns, week in week out,
to manage the team. Bagsy Peter Withe up front.
I wrote to the Rt Hon Tony Blair MP and his friend Ben
Bradshaw today. Only because the RSPCA asked me to do
so. Having just got to the bit about hunting with
dogs I realised i should actually have been watching
the road and not writing a letter and ran over three
foxes, two stags and a tescos bag. silly me.
Now the good bit...
Bye.
Adrian, "not always what he was cracked up to be" Evans.
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From editor at xxx.uk Sat Oct 2 22:59:45 1999
From: editor at xxx.uk (piezoelectric unit)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 22:59:45 +0100
Subject: Sinister: gothic archies
In-Reply-To: <01bf0c0f$fd026aa0$LocalHost@itjfvkli>
Message-ID:
people, hello. i had a look around the room yesterday and noticed a little
pointed black shoe peeking from beneath the table that holds my printers.
'hello' i said, 'those look like gothic pointy boots unless i am very much
mistaken... that must be the Duke, back from his travels on the goth trail
(this is a less well known varitaion on the hippy trail of yore; stephin
merritt is a bit of an expert on it, as is mr Peter Murphy.)'. And it was. I
told him about what Miller had been saying (see below)...
>Surely Exeter City's new DUKE STAND is a tribute not only to the Duke
>himself, but also a tribute to the combative stance he takes on issues
>such as Manda Rin's refusal to do swaps, as well as a sideways nod to
>the Dexy's Midnight Runners classic DANCE STANCE.
and he said 'yeah. he's spot on, as ever. never misses a trick does that man
who dwells in the wilds of Spain. Did i ever tell you about my adventures in
the backstreets of Verona?' but i stopped listening. I told him later i'd
already read Patrice Chaplin.
We both agreed, however, that taking stands was an Important Thing To Do. HE
started expanding this, wittering on about being 16 and all that, but i told
him everyone had heard it all before and that such talk was so '97. He just
sulked.
Miller also pulled out the caps and writ loud:
>I SEE A SITAR AND I WANT TO PAINT IT BLACK
The Duke agreed with that wholeheartedly, adding that as he'd been wandering
through the Gothic Archies of NYC, he'd actually spotted a sitar painted
black, which was kind of spooky. Said it was being played by a tiny goat,
but i think that's just another example of how drugs are not very good for
you. KIDS! just say no. Especially if it's a strange looking bloke in
black... Me, i say fuck the sitar. Hippie shit... Once again, I'm with
Hopkins on this one.
Went to a funny disco party last night with the Duke and his Duchess. The
venue was populated with a variety of interesting characters, one of whom i
hadn't seen in three years and who asked me what i'd been listening to. i
ummed and ahed and eventually said 'The Magnetic Fields. Exclusively.' She
looked confused and said she liked Belle & Sebastian. i told her the Duke
knew all about them and could bore her to tears talking about them, and she
politely withdrew from the room. Understandable, if a little rude, i
thought.
The disco was hilarious. The Duke and Duchess shook their booty to The
Scream, because as the Duchess later said 'we met under Bobby's gaze...'.
Strange people. The DJ also played two WHO! songs, although they were quite
dull ones about generations and pinballs and no-one danced. Every song that
was played was a cliche, it was hilarious. The three of us played at guess
what comes next and ticked off the tunes as they were played. Pils was a
quid a bottle, which made the game a lot more exciting. They played the
Manics a couple of times and the Duke embarrassed himself by telling some
attractive young chap that he used to 'hang with Richey'. The young lad
asked 'Richey who?' and we all laughed at him. the Duke i mean, not the lad,
who was way too good looking to laugh at.
i hate young people, they look far too good. Grrr.
the Duke is still around tonite actually, and he's drinking beer before we
all go out again to another party. this one will have lots of air hostesses
and pilots at it, and the Duke intends to get very drunk and tell everyone
about his gothic exploits as DJ with the Rose of Avalanche.
I am dead impressed because this mail actually mentioned B&S.
chin up.
Piezo Unit 3b.
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From GBCH at xxx.uk Sat Oct 2 23:18:21 1999
From: GBCH at xxx.uk (Chris_t_opher)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 23:18:21 +0100
Subject: Sinister: quickly now..
Message-ID: <009201bf0d24$09cee140$7c57883e@homebuilt>
..before the backlash.
I said that we covered a Goo Goo Dolls song.
Im trying to save you all wasting energy by laughing at me...
It WAS NOT my idea, i hate them, but the others wanted to do one cover.
I made a comprimise in taste by saying Rebel Rebel by Bowie, but they were
having none of it!
Like i was saying, i have NO influence for some reason.
NOT MY FAULT
Chris_t_opher
ps. To Conclude, IT WASNT MY IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!
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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Oct 3 00:05:04 1999
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 19:05:04 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Tripe & Onions, (with no onions)
Message-ID: <199910021905_MC2-8759-DC0D@compuserve.com>
Hi Perfumed Ones,
Nice to see so many old codgers out amongst the yoof on the Sinister
streets recently, shuffling around, hacking, & muttering about the war.
Dot Allison was excellent at The Arts Centre, we'll have to buy some
records. Arab Strap were too, although towards the end Aidan & Malcolm were
taking it in turns to walk off-stage in a huff. This probably because of
the cool dudes down the front (out on their first big weekend?) sitting on
the edge of the stage/in circles, back to band, chatting through their set.
Even the Middleton Mad Axeman stare couldn't scare them into realising what
they were doing.
Proud Dad sends thanks to Il Duce, Signor Miele, for pinning the photo of
Sally & I in our Bowlie chalet on the Sinister board, coz she looks dead
pretty in it.
Michele - Sally thought that being a Sinistereen at second hand didn't
qualify her for meet-ups, so she met up with the Super Furry Animals in
Virgin & got put on the guest list for their gig that evening instead.
Someone stole my copy of Don't Fear The Reaper, a long time ago
Going back not quite such a long way, I couldn't make head or tail out of
Damon's second poem
My hand is up in answer to Mr Messent's Eifel 65 question, (which is
probably why this took so long to type)
Adam: Claude Lorrain, Poussin, Corot, Courbet, Renoir, Monet, Gauguin,
Cezanne, Degas, Pissarro, Seurat - but I guess you get the picture
Randy Kalifornia's Dad was the drummer in Spirit
Luckily for true Belle Heads everywhere Sir Cliff made me take out the
extended comparison between Isobel & a sitar
Ailsa speculated about Stuart D's motivation for writing songs for B&S: I
thought it was just to earn royalties to finance all the projects he's
really into. However, I agree that they do come out pretty well despite
that.
Approbation is the new props
Sister Who Came First, what's the difficult part about a tape for me?
Alasdair "Pele" Cook: Grazing In The Grass was played at the Gormless
Weebles concert in London. A careful listener would also have heard it
played by the DJ (Beans?) shortly after the triumphant end of B&S' Bowlie
set.
I love Alistair when he takes the piezo out of himself
Like Trousers, Like Brain
David Moore
Chelmsford, UK
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From Walkn10 at xxx.com Sun Oct 3 02:12:23 1999
From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 21:12:23 EDT
Subject: Sinister: The Grevious Angel...
Message-ID: <4ac259c2.25280777@aol.com>
Ok, Nick I stand corrected about being a year off as to when the Beatles
first tripped. Their most obvious LSD record, in my opinion, is Revolver
which was released in '66 and written in the second of '65 so I guess we're
both right. Well, the McCartney songs are pretty much standard Beatle fare
but Lennon and Harrison's tunes are more far out than anything they ever
tried (especially Tommorrow Never Knows and She Said She Said, which
incidentally was written about that first LSD trip). Anyone else notice half
the guitars on that record sound like sitars? I'll be dodging the bricks
now...
I bought Gram Parson's two solo records the other day and I am just simply
amazed. I thought Big Star and Wilco were really great, touching Southern
Rock (tm) but Gram just blows them all to peices. Is it just me or does he
write the saddest songs on earth about ghosts visiting their loved ones in
their sleep, and brides dying on their wedding day and such. Oddly enough
when you hear him and Emmylou belt them out its amazingly comforting and
beautiful and not really as sad as you may think. I guess it doesn't hurt
that I'm a southern boy at heart so I dig the overtly country tunes as much
as the soulful rockers...
To my good friend and long-standing Mario Kart adversary Todd Matthew
Herrmann, I say follow Pam's advice and "go all the way to being brutal."
Trust me, if an idiotic little minx like that claims she can dig whatever
you're listening to then its probably not a good thing. A few weeks back
someone insulted Stereolab in my store and then proceeded to buy the new
Godsmack so it all evens out. People like that will be stupid and myopic
their entire lives so its no use getting all upset over it, although she was
a pretty bitchy little sort wasn't she?
How come we haven't heard from Mrs. Lauren Tigerxdare in awhile? I sure
she's ok after the emotional upheaveals of the past few weeks.
Later
Steve C.
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From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sun Oct 3 12:53:21 1999
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:53:21 +0100
Subject: Sinister: The Glasgow Update
Message-ID: <003701bf0d95$e4cea7a0$30ccb0c2@default>
Hi all,
Well, in my eyes anyway, the meetup was really good fun. Everyone was really
friendly and welcoming (even though I didn't have a clue what they were
talking about half of the time )
Big thanks and hugs to;
Ailsa, Alasdair, Owen, Jamie, Jack, Jennifer, Jennifer's friend who looked
like someone, my mate Andrew, Callum, Ailsa's boyfriend (Neil, I think, but
not entirely sure, sorry) and anyone that I've missed, although I think
that's everyone....
Had a great night folks, we'll have to do it again sometime :)
g'night
-- Jason Andreas
-- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people
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From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sun Oct 3 14:34:15 1999
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 14:34:15 +0100
Subject: Sinister: The Glasgow Meetup (added point)
Message-ID: <001101bf0da3$fdd52d60$53ccb0c2@default>
See, and I didn't mention Calumn's Palmpilot once ;)
-- Jason Andreas
-- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people
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From LAWMIK00 at xxx.nz Mon Oct 4 01:27:04 1999
From: LAWMIK00 at xxx.nz (LAWRENCE CHARLES MIKKELSEN)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:27:04 +1200
Subject: Sinister: geneva MP3s
Message-ID: <1928DAE574B@kinloch.ait.ac.nz>
hey kids. I was wondering if there were any Geneva fans out there?
I've been unsuccessfully attempting to download the new MP3s
from their site (www.geneva-music.com) The internet bandwidth
here is aweful, and the last time I tried it said it would take 15
hours to download! Ummm - except that my ISP throws me off after
two,
Anyway, if anyone out there is a fan, and would like to e-mail the
files to me (there is one up there now, and one which was taken
down a week or so ago) I would be filled with joy. I don't know if I
have anything that you would want in return, but I have loads of
'good stuff'.
Anyway, if anyone can help me (oh please God) please mail the
MP3s to the following address (not this one ..)
mikelsen at akn.quik.co.nz
thanks for taking the time to read this totally non-B&S related post.
Lawrence.
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From GBCH at xxx.uk Sun Oct 3 18:03:24 1999
From: GBCH at xxx.uk (Chris_t_opher)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 18:03:24 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Hmmmm....
Message-ID: <001001bf0df8$7012e440$b933883e@homebuilt>
(Im really sorry if this is the third time youve all received this message.
My Outlook Express is playing up)
Dum diddy dum dum....
La la.
Ehllo.
NETBALL ON TELE.....
Just a thought.
LEEDS UNI...
Anyone have any feelings about The Univesity of Leeds or Leeds city in
general. My brother's just got back from 2 weeks there and he's trying to
convince me to apply. Everyone i know says that the city is a bit of a
*Concrete jungle* and really boring.
....WHICH LEADS TO.....
How do you know if you are a *big city person*? I ask, cos the only really
big city im thinking of going to is Nottingham. And that isnt even *that*
big a city. I like to visit Manchester, but how do i know whether i could
stomach 3-4 years in one? And how do i know that i wont get too caught up
with the social scene there? My brother went to the Uni of Manchester and
immediately started going out allllll the time and became a DJ. He then
proceeded to fail his second year and it took a hell of a lot of bugging by
my mother to keep him in. He's now go a fairly low-paid job cos he got a 2-2
and not the 2-1 he was easily capable of.
That probably didnt interest ANYONE at all..
Chris_t_opher - the 3 times in 12 hours boy (In the Peak of his physical
fitness.)
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From GBCH at xxx.uk Mon Oct 4 01:38:12 1999
From: GBCH at xxx.uk (Chris_t_opher)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 01:38:12 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Hmmmm....
Message-ID: <001b01bf0e00$bd88a0e0$b933883e@homebuilt>
(Im really sorry if this is the third time youve all received this message.
My Outlook Express is playing up)
Dum diddy dum dum....
La la.
Ehllo.
NETBALL ON TELE.....
Just a thought.
LEEDS UNI...
Anyone have any feelings about The Univesity of Leeds or Leeds city in
general. My brother's just got back from 2 weeks there and he's trying to
convince me to apply. Everyone i know says that the city is a bit of a
*Concrete jungle* and really boring.
....WHICH LEADS TO.....
How do you know if you are a *big city person*? I ask, cos the only really
big city im thinking of going to is Nottingham. And that isnt even *that*
big a city. I like to visit Manchester, but how do i know whether i could
stomach 3-4 years in one? And how do i know that i wont get too caught up
with the social scene there? My brother went to the Uni of Manchester and
immediately started going out allllll the time and became a DJ. He then
proceeded to fail his second year and it took a hell of a lot of bugging by
my mother to keep him in. He's now go a fairly low-paid job cos he got a 2-2
and not the 2-1 he was easily capable of.
That probably didnt interest ANYONE at all..
Chris_t_opher - the 3 times in 12 hours boy (In the Peak of his physical
fitness.)
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From mkl206 at xxx.edu Mon Oct 4 05:17:15 1999
From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:17:15 +0800
Subject: Sinister: sinister manifesto
Message-ID:
we have reached a time in our collective history wherein the balance is
shifting. what once had an order is being swept away into disorder and
decay. the new order lacks consistency and coherency, the old order is
faded and morose. this, brothers and sisters, is the time to strike. we
are the sebastianites, the pure and true followers of belle and sebastian,
come to lay claim to this barren wasteland. we bring an aged youthfulness
and cynical optimism that will lead us into battle and through it feeling
battered when we truly were not. we will hold our calves like flayed
sausages and sing about intelligent machines with arms of sex. we are the
nouveau and nouvelle and nouveaux. we will personify the living and raise
them from the dead. we will dance to roolz and droolz and mayhap toolz
long into the night, proclaiming joss as the mighty king of the party to
which there is no end. we will lose ourselves and ourself in a myriad of
lost weekends and find ourselves in flower beds watching the dew fall upon
the wreckage of western society as it continues it's futile struggle
against the impending apocalypse. the wreck of the zephyr and the rebirth
of the phoenix, rewound and played by sisyphus on the celestial steenbeck
of modern society. repetition becomes synonomous with poison, absinthe
instead of currare. but enough emotion, let us not waste the day. our
reminscences can only deter us for so long, we are intent upon the final
strike. with that, i you, the people of sinister, the six theses.
1. society is a curse, nationality is a bind. we agree to free ourselves
and stand in direct opposition to any who attempt to segregate themselves
or others in terms of location, mental, physical, or metaphysical.
2. we frown upon physical exertion, both our own and that of others. we
despise football, in all lands, and listen to music while lying on our
backs with limpid musculature.
3. if one is tempted to ask why said list does not discover ___ band of
moment, said person should think first, then cut their ear off. if said
person still wishes to ask said question, said fate will meet him, her, it
or them.
4. we worship a god of nectar and abhor a phallic place.
5. though we long for a society without boarder of gender and sex, we seek
the ultimate vulgar experience of sexuality, as relayed third person with a
number of important details replaced by nonsense words.
6. order is the bain of all socities.
opposition will be listened to, but surely overcome, as the new order of
sebastianites leads the procession into the next battlefield. join to us,
we like thai elephants!
love and rockets,
magnetic megan
mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu
are we not men? we are magnetic fields.
http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/
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From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 12:18:28 1999
From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 04:18:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: people aren't fine
Message-ID: <19991004111828.26135.rocketmail@web1405.mail.yahoo.com>
I thought that it would be safer to stay at home
instead of going to the glasgow meet up. I don't like
town much. If I go there, I end up walking around the
streets for hours on end, buying a donut, and then
popping into record shops to look at cds. It's
different if you have a purpose . I don't. I walk
round blocks repeatedly, then maybe walk for a mile in
one direction, decide to pop up to the west end, then
when I'm half way there, decide that I can't be
bothered. Then I'll try to go home, only to discover
that I don't have enough for the bus/ train fare, so
I'll walk for a while then get the bus as near to home
as I can... and occasionally getting the wrong bus and
ending up in pollok or govan because they have changed
the bus numbers. Or maybe asking shop owners if
they'll give me a job.
Plus, I'm too young to get into pubs, and I am quite
scared of meeting sinister people.
Can anyone give me a job?
Someone asked if lauren was okay. I think she is... I
mean I have mailed her a couple of times and she
sounds fine.
Is it wrong to have an overpowering desire to hug your
hi-fi when mary-jo is playing?
I hate it when people listen to your feelings, but
don't actually care about you - I't's a trick. If they
do care, then they'll tell you how they feel. If they
don't, then they've got you again.
I could ramble for a living.
Am I not allowed to climb anymore?
babychris
CRYSTALBALLS
Ps. - I wish I could mail my mind, but I can't , plus
someone would probably use it against me.
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From paularathoon at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 12:37:45 1999
From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 12:37:45 BST
Subject: Sinister: sinister:girlfriend in a foreign land
Message-ID: <19991004113745.46588.qmail@hotmail.com>
Well, this is my first post after a longish time hanging around
and observing the major players on this list. Belle and Sebastian
seem to be playing a major role in my life at the moment for not
only do my housemates and I here in sunny Manchester have all the
E.P.s and albums (having 4 stereos playing TBWTAS simultaneously is
a truly magical experience, especially at 3am armed with Vodka) but
also because B+S make a near perfect girlfriend substitute. You see,
my girlfriend has gone off to Paris for 10 months so I need something
to help me through the lonely nights. I am actually thinking of dumping my
girlfriend becuase LLPJ seems to be much more my type...
p.s. Apparantly one B+S (possibly the boy Geddes) will be D.Jing
at the Star And Garter pub in Manchester sometime this month. This is not an
unsubstantiated rumour. I spoke to one of the other D>J's who plays there
who knows whats going on. I hope anyway or have just made a twat out of
myself.
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From eahostet at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 16:33:10 1999
From: eahostet at xxx.com (E. A. Hostetter)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 08:33:10 -0700
Subject: Sinister: re: sinister manifesto
Message-ID: <37F8C8B6.9BC6C3E3@interlog.com>
In ref to Magnetic Megan's Sinister Manifesto, belief
> 4. we worship a god of nectar and abhor a phallic place.
I must dissent.....
and admit
that i there are times
when my heart races
and i get warm and tense
that i bite my lip
because i so long to visit....
a phallic place
;)
ea
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From messentw at xxx.uk Mon Oct 4 15:01:43 1999
From: messentw at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?William=20Messent?=)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:01:43 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: I Smell A Hippy
Message-ID: <19991004140143.3397.rocketmail@web302.mail.yahoo.com>
Yo.
TIME-MANAGEMENT SKILLZ
I was 5 and a half hours late for work today; I shit
you not. I work just outside London, and I awoke in
Haslingden, Lancashire at 8 o clock. The reason for my
predicament is twofold, dear readers. I can put it
down to clumsiness and drink. I drove up on Saturday
to see my friends, parked up about half-five and went
for a pint. When I went to get the car and drive us
all home at 6:20, the buggers had locked the car park.
I made a few frantic calls next day, only to be told
the car park would not be opened until Monday morning;
the geezer with the keys was, and I quote, "In
Morecombe". Try telling your boss that you're nearly a
day late for work because some bloke is in Morecombe.
It doesn't go down too well.
B&S CONTENT
My mate Nicola plays in a band called Empress, and
they played up in Glasgow the other day, and
apparantly our Stuart went to see them! But only
stayed for about 3 minutes. According to Nicola, "I
think he turned up at the wrong club." I thought he
was meant to stay in his bedroom all the time anyway.
I feel cheated. As should he, he missed a treat by
leaving.
BRITISH TELLY
I love telly. I especially love The Royle Family and
identify very strongly with Anthony. I also like
Hollyoaks and that Hip-Hop programme. Doesn't Vanilla
Ice look funny these days? One time. That new show
with Denise Van Outen is the biggest shower of shite I
have ever seen on telly.
POP MUSIC
The band that I play in are supporting Mogwai in
Manchester on 19 October, so a big shout out to any
Manc Listees in the area, hope to see youse there.
You'll love it.
Massive love and respect,
Will x
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From untitled at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 16:10:05 1999
From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:10:05 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Gay Jeremy from Airport is standing by...
Message-ID: <199910041109_MC2-878E-30B6@compuserve.com>
I tried putting Jelly Babies and rum out on the bird table every night -
nothing. I tried blasting the talking book version of Oh What A Lovely War
& Browning's' Porphiyrias' Lover out of my dad's car radio - nothing. I
even tried a six foot phallus scented with mixed fruit and Channel No 5,
but, alas not a sausage. This time I am determined to catch him.
I have set up a sophisticated surveillance system at vast personal expense.
Well, I saved up with my pocket money and I've been washing a few cars and
mowing a couple of lawns (including the lawn of the old man at the end of
the road, apparently he used to be in charge of a children's home in
Birmingham in the 70's, nice. He invited me in for a 'drink or whatever',
but I had to go, my tea was ready, and I needed to shower) to subsidise my
meagre allowance but I have installed it none the less. Honest John the
Bastard, or shitty to his friends has sold it to me.
It consists of five and a half miles of tensioned string, eight hundred
noise boxes, which to me look like old tin cans with marbles in 'em, but
Honest John the Bastard assures me there not, a penny farthing and a large
net. The string is to be placed in a clockwise direction around my village
from the Spar shop owners' wing mirror on him Fiat van, the vicar's cock on
top of the spire and from there it is attached to the handle to the door of
the girls loos at the local school (that third one will be tricky). The
noise boxes are to be set 2 metres apart and must have at least 3 marbles
in each.
I have arranged for Gay Jeremy from BBC 1's popular Airport to stand on 24
hour guard, hang on
- You alright J
- ooo, I sat on me walkie talkie, roger, roger, ooo how queer,
- Who's Roger, oh I see, sorry
Ahh, bless, he's a trooper. A-hem. Yeah, he's fine. His pin prick (I
said pin prick) eyes will search the vast blue above our heads and give me
early warning. We have arranged that when something fly's into view he is
to clap his hands to give me early warning. So the idea being that I'll
jump into action when he gives me the clap (I said clap.)
I'll come tearing out of the camouflaged HQ on my penny f waving my net,
and if all goes to plan I could have me a poetry parrot, or that retched
dinosaur arse hole. I heard that he's trying to snuff the parrot out so
that he can be the new poetry hard man, a sort of gay Dirty Den.
I know that the parrot often takes short cuts round my way, I think he
stops off at the Spar, once I saw him buying 20 B&H and some lighter fluid
and quoting Whitnail & I, "I demand fine wine and cake".
God, I would love it if the poetry parrot came round here.
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From ol01 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 4 16:36:50 1999
From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:36:50 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: I am cursed
Message-ID:
Yes thats right I'm cursed.
yet again I went to a Glasgow meet up
yet again I didn't get the last train back 'cos someone said they could
put me up in the city
yet again I managed to lose the person I was staying with
yet again Ailsa let me have a sofa in paisley
I'm a dumb bastard and I'm cursed
but thanks Ailsa
and thanks Jason for organising a great night
and all of you are invited to Stirling anytime
but there's nothing to do here
oh dear
oh well
you're invited anyway
"We were twee before you" Stephen Pastel 1984
With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in
a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon
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From dunca_chap at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 16:49:05 1999
From: dunca_chap at xxx.com (Adam Chapman)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:49:05 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Hello from 'sunny' Norwich
Message-ID: <19991004154906.94180.qmail@hotmail.com>
Greetings Individuals.
At long last, i've made it out of Somerset, into that other difficult to
reach area; East Anglia, where amoung other things i am obtaining at great
expense and heartache a university education courtesey of that home of
concrete and fluffy rabbits, the University of East Anglia, Norwich. To
anyone who remembers me from the Primrose Hill affair in July; Hello, and
thankyou, it was marvellous.
Thanks are also due to whever it was who recommended 'Behind the scenes
at the Museum' on this list, eons ago, as i read it during the summer whilst
employed to fleece the people of Yeovil for a round of Crazy Golf. A fine
book, so many thanks.
So long for now,
Adam [Who neither knows nor cares what the best 'Smiths album might be...]
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From Alexandre.Tobin at xxx.nl Mon Oct 4 17:03:00 1999
From: Alexandre.Tobin at xxx.nl (Alexandre Tobin)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 18:03:00 +0200
Subject: Sinister: nalda said
Message-ID: <19991004155847078.AAA327@www-server.ucu.uu.nl@[131.211.105.90]>
Hello hello everyone...
I just wanted to drop a quick line and let you all know that Tigermilk - the
Belle and Sebastian Webring has a new info page on Stuart David's debut
novel 'Nalda Said', which is being published on October 18.
On the site, you'll be able to see the cover (nice work!), along with some
preliminary info and a chance to win a free copy of the book.
So take a look at http://www.postmodern.co.uk now...
Cheers for listening,
Alex
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From hewits at xxx.uk Mon Oct 4 16:56:02 1999
From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:56:02 +0100
Subject: Sinister: I had a dream....
Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB6970C34C@park_ex>
yes, another one.
In said dream I had a copy of the new B&S album and I was trying to make out
what the tracks were called. One of them was definately called "Victoria
[something]" possibly "Place", so if a track turns up with a title like
that, I will have concrete proof that I am, in fact, psychic.
Unlike, at the pub quiz last night, when they were doing anagrams at the
start of each round. The theme was HORROR and the first answer was "Mary
Shelley" and I said before the second round started "it'll be Bram Stoker
next time", and it was. Hardly psychic, more stating the bleedin' obvious I
suppose. Oh, we won the quiz, so if anyone wants to come down to Cheltenham
next Saturday they can have a free beer on me.*
*Prize limited to 1 beer per person. While stocks last.
I did, however, predict in an e-mail to GEORGE DICKIE last week that someone
would copy his style and thank you Craig for proving me right :)
Comrade Magnetic Megan said:
lots of stuff which I've replied to her personally about, but UP THE
REVOLUTION anyway. Nothing like a good manifesto, that's what I say.
As long as we don't end up doing a "Life of Brian" and split into The
People's Front of Struan, The Popular Front of Isobel (yes, I know, popular
and isobel in the same sentence, ha~ha~)and the Popular People's Front of
Chris Geddes (SPLITTER!)
Unity is Strength
xoxo
ComradeSteve
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From honey at xxx.net Mon Oct 4 17:41:15 1999
From: honey at xxx.net (Honey)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:41:15 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: stuart and stuart write
Message-ID:
Hello children - Watch With Mother time again. I've got two things
to share with you all so gather round.
Before I do, can I say it's lovely to see some ragged old faces back
on the list from ages ago, it's like Remembrance Sunday. I'll take
this opportunity to bore them to tears and remind others that you're
all little darlings, but please remember when you post to the list to
have a think about how many people receive what you send... I don't
mean to be an old nag, honestly, and you're all doing swimmingly
really. Once or twice though people tell me that the list traffic is
a little too high and unfocussed to keep up with, so a little nudge
to remind you all please to... think before you send. The list goes
wrong when the majority of people don't have time to read the
majority of posts, so please try and keep your audience in mind.
Eeek you'll all hate me now.
On to business. The first thing is that that nice man Stuart David has
finally got a publisher for his book "Nalda", extracts of which some of
you might have read on his Looper site at
http://www.treehouse.clara.net but which he didn't ever finish putting
up. The publishers have written to me (and other too) because they
want YOU to hear all about it (and buy one). They're also sending me a
copy for a competition, so we're having a
"Tim Hopkins Swearing Contest"
The idea is that you swear at Tim Hopkins in a Belle and Sebastian
related way, via email, and he judges which is the best. You get
points for (a) humour, (b) B&S content and (c) cussability (he
says). DON'T swear at him yet, unless it's unrelated to the
competition, we'll be sending on rules of engagement a little later
this evening. Anyone who swears at Tim without good reason before
the competition starts gets disqualified, although I'm sure someone
will take advantage of the opportunity anyway.
Anyway here's the blurb from the publisher (I've just seen Alex's
mail: it might be the same blurb):
*****
NALDA SAID - STUART DAVID'S INTRIGUING DEBUT NOVEL, PUBLISHED BY
I.M.P FICTION, IS RELEASED 18/10/99
STUART DAVID WILL BE PERFORMING WITH LOOPER TO PROMOTE NALDA SAID,
DURING THE WEEK OF RELEASE AND SIGNING COPIES -
Saturday 16th October - Virgin, Glasgow.
Doors 8.30pm, performing 9.00pm.
Tickets available FREE from the store.
Tel: 0141 353 2993
Monday 18th October - Virgin, Oxford Street, London.
Doors 9.30pm, performing 10.00pm.
Tickets available FREE from the store.
Tel: 0171 631 1614
Tuesday 19th October - Borders Bookshop, Oxford Street, London. (Details
TBC)
Wednesday 20th October - Sallis Benney Theatre,University of Brighton.
In conjunction with Borders, Brighton.
Doors 8pm, performing 8.30pm
Tickets are �7/�5 concs. Price includes a �3 discount off the book for
that night only.
Available from Borders Books, Music & Cafe, Churchill Square, Brighton.
Tel: 01273 731122
Thursday 21st October - Virgin, Oxford.
Doors 8.30pm, performing 9.00pm.
Tickets available FREE from the store.
Tel: 01865 723 906
Friday 22nd October - Virgin, Leeds.
Doors 7.30pm, performing 8.00pm
Tickets available FREE from the store.
Tel: 0113 243 8117
You can buy Nalda Said in all good book and record stores from 18/10/99
You can also buy it MAIL ORDER -
Send a cheque/international money order in pounds sterling, payable to
Independent Music Press Ltd, for 7.99 PLUS 1. postage and packing.
Allow 21 days for delivery, normally dispatched within 7 days.
ABOUT THE BOOK -
Riddled by an intense fear of his bizarre secret being discovered, the
narrator of Nalda Said grows up in the strange seclusion of a shoddy
caravan with his Aunt Nalda, whose own colourful storytelling leaves him
perpetually trapped between fantasy and reality.
Nalda's nephew eventually finds work as a hospital gardener where,
perhaps for the first time, he finds true friendship and begins to
realise that his dark secret has been suffocating what hope he had of
ever leading a normal life.
Finding himself in love, this socially disjointed figure struggles to
reconcile his own curious view of the world with the stark daily reality
that most people are forced to live with. Yet, his own bleak battle to
break free from these mental shackles oddly reflects the desperation of
the very same people who cruelly poke fun at him.
Nalda Said is a disturbing, compelling and brilliantly crafted tale of
one man's pained anxiety and desperate search for his dream - to live a
normal life.
ISBN: 0-9533275-2-3 Paperback, 160 pages Published: 18/10/99
Price: 7.99 uk pounds
*****
Secondly, that other Stuart, Mr Murdoch asked me to pass on info on
the following WWW site to you all, which he got at a pop star party,
just cos.
*****
> hey, this is for real. help feed the hungry for free!
>
> PLEASE take the time to read this.
> The Hunger Site at the U.N.
>
> This is a really neat website. All you do is click a button and somewhere
> in the world some hungry person gets a meal to eat at no cost to you.
> The
> food is paid for by corporate sponsors. All you do is go to the site and
> click.
>
> But, you're only allowed one click per day so spread the word to others.
> Visit the site and pass the word.
>
> http://www.thehungersite.com
*****
That's it.
Honey xx
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From koendcr at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 17:52:08 1999
From: koendcr at xxx.com (Koen De Crock)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 09:52:08 PDT
Subject: Sinister: Why not smile??? Reflections of a good time that could be better
Message-ID: <19991004165208.31706.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hello fellow sinisterians, wonderful people
Finally, I've made it!!! Out of the fucking nursery and into the wonderful,
magic world that is the sinister mailing list. So many fucking crazy people
all combined by one major thing: their love for a small, gorgeous band
called Belle and Sebastian.
Okay, let me present myself. My name is Koen, i'm 23 years old and from
Belgium. Crap, of course, I mean, why do you want to know how old I am. It's
not that that matters. By the way, apparently Koen sounds a lot like the
portuguese word Cuna� (any portuguese people who can confirm this???), which
basically means the same as "cunt". As I have a lot of Portuguese friends
who write me now and then, I am also known as el fortito, which means the
small, but brave one. This is basically shite, because I am not small, and
definitely not brave. But, my name is dutch also menas, yes...... "Brave".
In case any of you would like to know, I study international political
relations in Leuven, Belgium. I mainly do this: 1) because it is an extra
year (I already have a degree) and don't want to work, and 2) because I am
really interested in it (surprise.......). So, if I talk too much shite
about every thing that goes wrong politically in the world, just kick me
(virtually, of course) For now, I will shut up about it.
So, why do we love Belle and Sebatsian's music so much? Is it because they
make the most wonderful, poppish and lovely music in the world? YES. Is it
because their music always sounds great, whether you're drunk, sober, doing
the dishes, talking to your girlfriend or f***ing her? YES. Is it because
they are a perfect substitute for a girlfriend (don't know whom of you wrote
this, but it is true)? YES, and I should know: my girlfriend is Portuguese,
from Lisbon, some 2000 miles away; when I miss her, I play B+S, the perfect
medicine. Is it because they refuse to give in to the big money of the
capitalistic major record companies (I am a left wing pseudo-anarchist, you
know)? YES, of course...... And I could go on and on...... Anyway, are there
any Belgian people on this list. Maybe, we could have a meet up in Leuven,
or Antwerp, or Ghent, or Brussels.....
So, my love for Belle and her Sebastian goes very far, but..... why have
they only played once (as far as I know) in Belgium?? And why did they have
to do it on a night I could not go??? So, come on, you press-shy (at least,
that's what the papers say) popstars, come to Belgium and give me a
treat!!!!
My life does NOt revolve around Belle and Sebastian. At least not enirely. I
also listen to other great stuff: Godspeed You Black Emperor, Mogwai,
Motorpsycho, Low, dEUS (the Belgian pride), Do make Say Think, Sofa,
etc....... The last albums I bought were: 1) Everything is nice (10 years
of Matador): it features a brilliant Mogwai song called Hugh Dallas,
previously unreleased (Don't know why it's not on one of their Albums or
EP's, caues it's one of the best they've ever done. 2) The Carve Up: a CD
compilation from the famous radio show on London's XFM, which is sadly
stopped: it features an accoustic version of Nick Cave's "The Mercy Seat",
and another exclusive Mogwai Song, "Nick Drake" (good enough, but they've
done better). As I believe Music you listen to is always a reflection of
someone's character, I hope this list gives you a bit of an Idea of mine.
By the way, my friends say I am shy. This is not true, I just don't see the
point in talking on and on without saying something.
I went to a party of a friend yesterday. Drank a lot, the music was shite,
but the people and the atmosphere were nice. Had a lot of laughs, saw a
friend I hadnt seen for quite a while and finally could set my mind of my
girlfriend somehow. Lost my glasses, found them back (all broken), so had
to buy new ones. Fuck!!!!! But, did not let this spoil my weekend. Slept
till two o'clock on Sunday, woke up with tigermilk, watched cycling on the
telly, went to the pub for a few beers, etc... So you see, nothing much
happened.
By the way, how can I know my girlfriend is not cheating on me in Lisbon. I
guess I will have to trust her, which I do, most of tthe time. But,
sometimes I start doubting. I mean, what's the point in continiung this
relationship anyway??? There's a lot of great girls here too, I hardly ever
see her. We communicate by phone , letters or e-mail. We send each other
gifts, etc.... The fact that I am still with her after one year must mean
that she's actually so great that it's gonna be difficult to find a better
girl. This makes me sad sometimes, because I know I will have to give up all
muy friends, and family here to move to Portugal in a year or so... (She
said she does not really want to live in Belgium). Is this realistic, or
not???? Don't know. Love moves in mysterious ways.
Anyway, If some of you have the same problem, you can always send me a
private e-mail. My mind has wandered of now. I guess I will go now and
listen to Belle and Sebastian some more.
And come on, lets do a meet-up somehow, somewhere in the Vicinity of
Belgium.
Let the electronic renaissance live on
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From koendcr at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 17:51:36 1999
From: koendcr at xxx.com (Koen De Crock)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 09:51:36 PDT
Subject: Sinister: Why not smile??? Reflections of a good time that could be better
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Hello fellow sinisterians, wonderful people
Finally, I've made it!!! Out of the fucking nursery and into the wonderful,
magic world that is the sinister mailing list. So many fucking crazy people
all combined by one major thing: their love for a small, gorgeous band
called Belle and Sebastian.
Okay, let me present myself. My name is Koen, i'm 23 years old and from
Belgium. Crap, of course, I mean, why do you want to know how old I am. It's
not that that matters. By the way, apparently Koen sounds a lot like the
portuguese word Cuna� (any portuguese people who can confirm this???), which
basically means the same as "cunt". As I have a lot of Portuguese friends
who write me now and then, I am also known as el fortito, which means the
small, but brave one. This is basically shite, because I am not small, and
definitely not brave. But, my name is dutch also menas, yes...... "Brave".
In case any of you would like to know, I study international political
relations in Leuven, Belgium. I mainly do this: 1) because it is an extra
year (I already have a degree) and don't want to work, and 2) because I am
really interested in it (surprise.......). So, if I talk too much shite
about every thing that goes wrong politically in the world, just kick me
(virtually, of course) For now, I will shut up about it.
So, why do we love Belle and Sebatsian's music so much? Is it because they
make the most wonderful, poppish and lovely music in the world? YES. Is it
because their music always sounds great, whether you're drunk, sober, doing
the dishes, talking to your girlfriend or f***ing her? YES. Is it because
they are a perfect substitute for a girlfriend (don't know whom of you wrote
this, but it is true)? YES, and I should know: my girlfriend is Portuguese,
from Lisbon, some 2000 miles away; when I miss her, I play B+S, the perfect
medicine. Is it because they refuse to give in to the big money of the
capitalistic major record companies (I am a left wing pseudo-anarchist, you
know)? YES, of course...... And I could go on and on...... Anyway, are there
any Belgian people on this list. Maybe, we could have a meet up in Leuven,
or Antwerp, or Ghent, or Brussels.....
So, my love for Belle and her Sebastian goes very far, but..... why have
they only played once (as far as I know) in Belgium?? And why did they have
to do it on a night I could not go??? So, come on, you press-shy (at least,
that's what the papers say) popstars, come to Belgium and give me a
treat!!!!
My life does NOt revolve around Belle and Sebastian. At least not enirely. I
also listen to other great stuff: Godspeed You Black Emperor, Mogwai,
Motorpsycho, Low, dEUS (the Belgian pride), Do make Say Think, Sofa,
etc....... The last albums I bought were: 1) Everything is nice (10 years
of Matador): it features a brilliant Mogwai song called Hugh Dallas,
previously unreleased (Don't know why it's not on one of their Albums or
EP's, caues it's one of the best they've ever done. 2) The Carve Up: a CD
compilation from the famous radio show on London's XFM, which is sadly
stopped: it features an accoustic version of Nick Cave's "The Mercy Seat",
and another exclusive Mogwai Song, "Nick Drake" (good enough, but they've
done better). As I believe Music you listen to is always a reflection of
someone's character, I hope this list gives you a bit of an Idea of mine.
By the way, my friends say I am shy. This is not true, I just don't see the
point in talking on and on without saying something.
I went to a party of a friend yesterday. Drank a lot, the music was shite,
but the people and the atmosphere were nice. Had a lot of laughs, saw a
friend I hadnt seen for quite a while and finally could set my mind of my
girlfriend somehow. Lost my glasses, found them back (all broken), so had
to buy new ones. Fuck!!!!! But, did not let this spoil my weekend. Slept
till two o'clock on Sunday, woke up with tigermilk, watched cycling on the
telly, went to the pub for a few beers, etc... So you see, nothing much
happened.
By the way, how can I know my girlfriend is not cheating on me in Lisbon. I
guess I will have to trust her, which I do, most of tthe time. But,
sometimes I start doubting. I mean, what's the point in continiung this
relationship anyway??? There's a lot of great girls here too, I hardly ever
see her. We communicate by phone , letters or e-mail. We send each other
gifts, etc.... The fact that I am still with her after one year must mean
that she's actually so great that it's gonna be difficult to find a better
girl. This makes me sad sometimes, because I know I will have to give up all
muy friends, and family here to move to Portugal in a year or so... (She
said she does not really want to live in Belgium). Is this realistic, or
not???? Don't know. Love moves in mysterious ways.
Anyway, If some of you have the same problem, you can always send me a
private e-mail. My mind has wandered of now. I guess I will go now and
listen to Belle and Sebastian some more.
And come on, lets do a meet-up somehow, somewhere in the Vicinity of
Belgium.
Let the electronic renaissance live on
El fortito, a.k.a. c***
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From bfundak at xxx.org Mon Oct 4 19:37:04 1999
From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:37:04 -0400 (EWT)
Subject: Sinister: Observations on a digest, Nalda Said, etc.
Message-ID:
Okay, after reading the latest digest I just had some issues I wanted to
get my thoughts out about.
THE SINISTER MANIFESTO
I found this interesting, but the word Manifesto always makes me
frightened, because it always says to me "let me tell you how to live your
life." Now I am not saying this in Megan's case (although I did wonder
what brought said manifesto on...) but with the recent politcal climate in
the US, what with the elephant dung Virgin Mary and the Christian
Coalition getting together for a powwow last week, I am a bit wary of
people asseritng their ideology lately. I refuse to push my thoughts on
anyone--but I am frankly getting tired of people wanting to decide for me
how to live my life. I am 24 years old and I am a big boy and can make my
own decisions, and if I choose to assert my wish to see an elephant dung
Virgin Mary (which frankly is more interesting than the usual virgin
mary's I've seen about) then I will go see it, Rudy Guiliani and the
Christian Coalition be damned. I want public funds to go for it as well,
because I am part of the public and I pay taxes and I think that people
should be given an opportunity to see it.
NALDA SAID
I am of course intrigued by Stuart's foray into print, but I am also weary
of such things. I have consciously passed up novels by Peter Farrelly and
Stephen Fry (two people I find very funny/entertaining in the media that I
was introduced to them in) because of that very fact. I often wonder WHY
people are being published and if they received their initial fame through
a different media, I will be suspect. My main issue here is that I doubt
Stuart David would have been granted the ability to publish Nalda Said
had he not been "Stuart David of Belle and Sebastian fame," something that
is the first thing pointed out in the author bio on the Amazon.com UK web
page for Nalda Said. I will reserve such judgement until after I have
read the book however.
I'M NOT DOWN OFF THE SOAPBOX YET
I was dismayed to find out today that the media giant that owns half of
the radio stations in Cleveland is buying the company that owns the other
half. So much for radio quality. Sorry but 2 college radio stations and
an NPR station are small oases of hope and they seem to be getting
swallowed up.
I LOVE IT WHEN...
Someone thinks a job is too menial for them so they make me or another
hard working person do it instead. I always want to say, "Boy, do you know
how to get on the right side of the worker's rights guy."
MAYBE THE SUN WILL SHINE TODAY
My gran had some awful cancer surgery today and made it through. We feared
the worst and she ended up making it, but she has a long road to go.
Thanks for letting me vent.
Brandt
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From robhalcrow at xxx.net Mon Oct 4 19:48:56 1999
From: robhalcrow at xxx.net (robhalcrow at xxx.net)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 19:48:56 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: Little birds in winter time, hungry are and poor...
Message-ID: <199910041848.TAA03109@boober.lineone.net>
Dear everyone,
I only get to see digests at weekends now, if that, but I promise I won't post without reading everything. Cross my heart.
Anyway, on the subject of the next album Ailsa was right. When I spoke to Richard C in the summer he said he wasn't writing anything for the album. I can't remember who said they'd rather have all Stu M songs but whoever it was I don't agree. I think one of B&S's big attractions for me is the way that everyone gets a go at their own songs and the band manages to come up with a lovely arrangement every time. So a song which you might politely describe as "slight" (like "Paperboat"?) becomes something memorable when they've all done their bit. Or is that too idealistic?
Following on from Laura Lew's book list recommendations I don't think liking Nick Hornby's "High Fidelity" is a bloke thing. I'm a bloke and I think it's crap. It's demeaning to men...oh we're so silly and anal and just little boys inside...how wonderful of women to deign to condescend to have anything to do with us. Or is that too cynical? (You may notice a not so interesting dichotomy emerging). However "Fever Pitch" and "About A Boy" are v good, I reckon.
Lastly if any Sinister types are knocking about Goldsmiths College for the next year or so (like what I am) feel free to email me. Then we can say hello.
Bye
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From mctag at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 20:04:53 1999
From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:04:53 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Hoochie mama, show your nanas
Message-ID: <37fafa2c.4238168@post.demon.co.uk>
Hello Rascals,
First of all, I bring you glad tidings of great comfort and joy. I
just saw Sinister's very own Wedding Belles JJ and Rachel at the
palace of Imperial Majesty which is the Trafford Centre and I must say
they looked positively radiant. Isn't love grand?
Anyway, it's Monday evening, Wumpkinny-san is at Japanese class so I
can play that Moloko single dead loud without being told off for
having impure thoughts about Roisin Murphy.
This weekend, she (Wumpkinny, that is, not Roisin Murphy) and I
answered a call of nature, and went to the Yorkshire Dales, famed for
being the place where James Herriot used to stick his arm RIGHT up
cows' bottoms. No such...ahem...fisticuffs for us though, instead we
gamboled and frolicked as new born lambs, visited magnificent
waterfalls and went down a fucking big cave, where Wumkinny made some,
frankly uncalled for, remarks about the errm...todgal nature of
stalactites. And I bought a hat. It's a very nice hat, and it's got
flaps to stop my little ears from getting a chill, so it's both
stylish and practical.
Thim "Devon knows how they make me so creamy" Hopkins wrote in a
strange Wessex dialect:
>You'm bin worrying moi loivestock. Gerrofff moi land.
Actually he didn't. But imagine if he had? He did however state,
with quite uncharacteristic forthrightness:
>If it^Òs got a sitar on it, I^Òm not bloody well buying it.
>Do I look like some kind of hippy?
Frankly, you do. But get your hair cut and ditch the Tull '73 Tour
t-shirt and all may not be lost.
Chris Melonballs whined:
>Can anyone give me a job?
Yes. I've got a chimney that needs sweeping.
Love,
Tag xx
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From pookie59 at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 21:23:25 1999
From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 13:23:25 PDT
Subject: Sinister: poetry parrot
Message-ID: <19991004202325.82471.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hi list! Havent heard from you in a while
Oooh baby,I got me some internet access,and its super-duper-souped-up
version.
So Stuart David has got a book out now?? Where where where can we get this?
I must tell you,I have had not one but TWO Belle and Sebastian dreams,and
they go like this:
(stupid irritating member of Barenaked Ladies,decked out in satin pimp suit)
So the Barenaked Lady guy approached Stuart Murdoch and Stuart David and he
was trying to be all hip and down with them,and he was like "What do you do
for fun when you're on tour?"
Stuart Murdoch:(blows smoke in bnl guy's face)"We go to libraries." (this
was said in a true Ice Maiden fashion)
Stuart David: (eagerly) Well,perhaps we could go to a movie together?
The second dream I had was just Stuart David,and he jumped into a car I was
driving because he had wanted to meet me,but was very mysterious and jumped
back out and I desperatley wanted to meet him again,but there was this nasty
other man who was trying to steal mr.david away from me and wanted to
"score" with him and wouldnt leave us alone, and when I woke up I was filled
with a sense of longing and despair.
I must tell you,I am enjoying Chemistry like I never thought possible.The
other day,I had to use sodium hydroxide which is VERY CORROSIVE we are
talking flesh to bone here,and I turned a penny gold!There is a suspicious
lab technicien hanging around though.She goes by the name of Miss Honey and
I have *SEEN* with these very eyes,peaking out from beneath her sombre lab
coat were... garter belts.She is always heating mysterious elements over the
bunsen burner and I am intrigued.
You know,Bill Clinton seems like a real wuss to what I have just learned
about this Borgia family with Rodrigo Borgia and Cesare Borgia. They were
the original Jerry Springer family,geez. Did you know they used to have
orgies in the open air and throw chestnuts at each other?
oh,yes,the poetry parrot peed on my shoulder didn't it? Well,I am not great
with my poets,I only really know the more obvious ones,but we are studying
Edgar Allan Poe at the moment and his seem very sad I think,well,I guess one
would be if they were afraid of being buried alive all the
time,anyways..here you go:
Annabel Lee by Edgar Allan Poe
It was many and many a year ago,
In a kingdom by the sea,
That a maiden there lived whom you may know
By the name of Annabel Lee;-
And this maiden she lived with no other thought
Than to love and be loved by me.
She was a child and I was a child,
In this kingdom by the sea,
But we loved with a love that was more than love-
I and my Annabel Lee-
With a love that the winged seraphs of Heaven
Coveted her and me.
And this was the reason that,long ago,
In this kingdom by the sea,
A wind blew out of a cloud by night
Chilling my Annabel Lee;
So that her highborn kinsmen came
And bore her away from me,
To shut her up in a sepulchre
In this kingdom by the sea.
The angels,not half so happy in Heaven,
Went envying her and me:-
Yes!that was the reason (as all men know,
In this kingdom by the sea)
That the wind came out of a cloud,chilling
And killing my Annabel Lee.
But our love it was stronger by far that the love
Of those who were older than we-
Of many far wiser than we-
And neither the angles in Heaven above
Nor the demons down under the sea,
Can ever dissever my soul from the soul
Of the beautiful Annabel Lee:-
For the moon never beams without bringing me dreams
Of the beautiful Annabel Lee;
And the stars never rise but I see the bright eyes
Of the beautiful Annabel Lee;
And so,all the night-tide,I lie down by the side
Of my darling,my darling,my life and my bride,
In her sepulchre there by the sea-
In her tomb by the side of the sea
Ok..so the parrot has just pooped on Joss Moorkens shoulder, bwa ha ha.I
think Joss should do the fantastic "The French Toast Man" poem.
love,
genevieve the alchemist
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From macarthur at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 22:40:50 1999
From: macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:40:50 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Don't you know that Crew cuts and Trainers are out again
Message-ID:
Poppets,
It was another Life Drawing Class this evening. It wasn't naked Stan,
unfortunatley, who I think we've all grown quite fond of during the last
two sessions. No, it was Thin Ray. I'm afraid Thin Ray isn't quite as
controlled as naked Stan, as little Ray did indeed stand to attention. I
blushed. It wasn't so much the erection that got me, rather the way Ray
deperately cried "Down boy! down boy! go on, thats a good boy". I'll shall
never forget the horror in his eyes. No one giggled. Dead Silence. I think
I saw him shed a tear at one point.
I may be joining the ranks of the working rather soon. My friend Katy has
just got a job on the cake counter at Waitrose, and apparently at the end
of the day, she gets to eat all the cakes which are left over. Which is
good news, because Katy is one of those thin girls that moans about being
fat, gallantly trying to stick out a belly that just isn't there, in the
vain hope you'll sympathise. I want a job in the staff canteen, because
apparently the boys from the Warehouse whistle at you and wink at you when
you give them extra chips.
Had a weird moment of clarity on friday evening. Mr Stevie Trousse said he
remembered me being like a startled rabbit at the first sinister thing I
ever went to. (It was a cold January evening, and myself and miss H got
ourselves all dressed down and timidly shuffled into poetry cafe) I said
something like "yes, little did you know I'd turn into the beast I've now
become" but I think he'd stopped listening by that point. My point is, my
WORD that startled little rabbit was much nicer than the boisterous
chain-smoking drunk that has been put in her place recently. I'm going to
go back to sitting in my room with Hannah (post darling, god damn it!)
drawing hearts around pictures of Richey Edwards. Thats all I did before I
met you lot, anyway.
Does anyone know the guitar chords to 'You're in a bad way' by St Etienne?
Just dial my number, or call my name...
Erica
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From zutroy at xxx.org Mon Oct 4 23:15:20 1999
From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:15:20 -0400
Subject: Sinister: show us your tits
Message-ID:
i looked in my outbox today and good lord has it really been two weeks
since my last post?
of course, i'm not quite as sad as the list time i've written to the lot of
you, so perhaps you won't give me quite as many mean looks after reading
this one (yes, i saw those looks, don't pretend i didn't).
LITTLE RAY
i feel really bad for that poor model for Erica MacArthur's life drawing
class. i also feel bad for his willy.
B&S CONTENT
i had an odd B&S dream the other night. i was at a seedy little bar
somewhere with a few of my friends, and i noticed a poster on the door
announcing upcoming performances. lo and behold, B&S was at the bottom of
the list, with no date for when to expect them. i ran in and asked a woman
behind a desk when they were coming. she said, "hold on a minute," and
returned with someone who i think was supposed to be stevie jackson (tho it
didn't look anything like him), maybe it was really mick cooke. but i
remember telling my friends it was a guitarist, so it must've been stevie.
besides, he was too tall to be mick. but too skinny to be stevie. huh.
anyway, the bunch of us get led back to some back room where we sat around
with stevie, and i think chris, and a few others i can't remember which
ones, and talked and drank and me and the girls i was with flirted with the
boys shamelessly. it was quite nice.
NOW FOR THE TITTIES
i went to a strip club on saturday with 4 people i live with, 3 girls and
one boy.
we're hiring a stripper for my friend's birthday, so we went to this place
in connecticut called "the electric blue cafe" and scouted. we spent three
hours there, picking a girl out, talking to her about pricing and such,
then waiting for our friend chris (the one boy) to finish talking to the
ridiculous number of people he knew there, but didn't know from there. he
knew them most likely from the club he bartends at.
anyway, i got so numb to looking at naked boobies all night that by the end
of the evening i had a massive urge to show someone my tits. i stifled it,
and now i'm glad i didn't. i wasn't drinking or anything, i guess it's just
so damn catching, wanting to take your clothes off.
connecticut has laws against full-nudity stripping, but i noticed at least
one of the dancers showing more than a peek at her naughty bits below the
waist. i'm hoping she got good tips for that.
the next morning the whole ordeal seemed like a naughty dream i had, like
none of it had happened. it wasn't particularly sexy stuff, either. it was
quite base and really displayed the lowest aspects of our culture, watching
these men stare blankly at naked girls shaking their boobs in their face,
writhing on the floor, holding off until the last minute to give them a $1
tip. by the end of the night some of the girls dancing were so tired and
bored of their job they put barely any effort into making it appear sexy.
they just walked up to one of the men sitting by the dance floor and
removed their top, held their boobs in front of them, and maybe wiggled a
bit. it was more than a little depressing to watch.
3 years ago i wanted to be a stripper. i'm not so sure anymore.
i wasn't so sure on saturday night because i don't think my body is nearly
hairless or smooth enough (and i'm not about to shave the naughty bits),
but now it just kind of grosses me out. i've got the tits for it, though
(and proud of it).
NO MORE TITTIES FOR YOU
i went to my local newbury comics to buy the new tindersticks, despite the
$26 price tag. unfortunately, someone beat me to it, so i bought a built to
spill album, instead. "there's nothing wrong with love." i listened to it
just now. i never noticed that 13th song before, and had no idea what the
hell was going on because i wasn't paying attention. so i tracked it back
to the beginning of the song and it all made sense. how strange. but funny.
strange but funny.
sweet sweet teri zuckerman called me the other night, and said she'd call
me again when she was in town friday afternoon, but i never heard from her.
did i miss her call? i don't know. so i got drunk instead. i've been
drinking more than ever. i think something's wrong with me. i don't even
really like being drunk. it annoys me.
anyway, i hope you're not all frowning at me now, because i realize this
post was really long, but i hope you liked the bit about the strippers.
then again, you probably didn't. so i'll shut up now.
-kerry
"maybe if you find the time you'll make out with me, desperate me."
-halo benders, "will work for food"
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From honey at xxx.net Mon Oct 4 23:13:06 1999
From: honey at xxx.net (Honey)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:13:06 +0100 (BST)
Subject: No subject
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Here's Mr Tim Hopkins competition rules, as promised, that he wrote
with his own hands. Good luck.
Honey In The Lab xxx
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The Looper Profanathon
Here are the rules:
1. The object of the game is to come up with the funniest and crudest Belle
and Sebastian-related piece of profanity, as adjudged by me, Hopkins of
this parish.
2. Players may submit one or more profane words or phrases via Honey's
clever voting machine, as previously seen on "Barbarella". You do
this by mailing "honey at majordomo.net" with just the word "Competition"
in the subject of the email. Any variation on this won't get caught
and you won't be entered (it's automatic), so watch your fingers.
DON'T send entries to the list!
3. The profanities will be judged on three criteria:
3.1 Belle and Sebastian-ness
3.2 Humour quotient
3.3 Cussability (that is to say the viability of the profanity as a cuss
word)
3.4 Examples (with thanks to Mister C. Leonard)
3.4.1 "Ya wee shite" scores high on the cussability count, fails in terms
of humour and scores poorly on B&S relatedness. Ditto "Pastel"
3.4.2 "I weally weally wuv woo" is funny(ish) and mildly B&S related but
has little or no cussability
3.4.3 "Struan" is not funny, is very B&S related and could be cussable at a
pinch
4. Entries need not be, or have any direct relation to, existing profanities
or cusses. They should, however, be viable cusses.
5. B&S relation can consist of references to members, songs, albums or other
products of the moderately popular beat combo Belle and Sebastian. Also
allowed are references to past exploits of the Sinister list. If I know what
you are on about.
6. Entries will be disqualified if they offend the judging panel by virtue
of (real or perceived) sexism, racism, or offensiveness towards creed or
religion. Bodily functions are encouraged, however.
7. The winning entry will be publicised to the list if it is funny enough,
and the winner will be furnished with a spanking new copy of Stuart David's
much sought-after tome. I will try to prevail upon Honey to come up with
prizes for the runners-up. I wouldn't hold my breath though.
8. Judging will take place on the 15th October.
9. The judges decision is final. No appeals are permitted, except sex
appeals, and those are to be submitted to the List Owner, who likes that
kind of thing.
10. No cash alternative to the prize is offered. I mean, as if.
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From hopkinstim at xxx.com Mon Oct 4 23:26:48 1999
From: hopkinstim at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Hopkins?=)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:26:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: Rejected by rodents
Message-ID: <19991004222648.8848.rocketmail@web1005.mail.yahoo.com>
Just a few bits of irrelevant rubbish for you again.
Read it, or don't, see if I care. Actually, I care
desperately, but I'm not going to tell you that, am I?
Robin said:
> I think the closest you can get to real life is
> "kitchen sink" drama.
That is certainly true here in Sinister Towers,
Rotherhithe, where we like nothing more of an evening
than playing through great scenes from kitchen sink
classics. Many's the time when Stevie Trousers is
Dicky Burton in 'Look Back In Anger', away in his room
blowing his horn, while I am upstairs shooting fat old
women in the arse with an airgun in a wildly amusing
pastiche of my favourite scene in 'Friday Night and
Saturday Morning'. Sometimes Sez is Rita Tushingham to
Stevie's Murray Melvin in 'A Taste Of Honey'. Meaning
I get to be moaning old Dora Bloody Bryan. Again.
'A Taste Of Honey'. Quite gets my juices flowing, I
can tell you.
Nickole:
> told me that i had to go to the spreadeagle
> because once he (or someone..) saw graham coxon in
> here.
There weren't any obvious members of Blur hanging out
on Friday. Trousers said he saw Robert Elms but I
reckon it was just any old ginger. A few months ago
when we were stoking ourselves with beer before the
emotional rollercoaster which was The GoBetweens
reunion at the Jazzmag Café, we saw one of the Field
Mice, on the corner outside the pub. He looked sad
(we'd have been disappointed in a Field Mouse if he'd
looked all chipper) and was waiting for ages, looking
all lost. Eventually we prevailed upon Steady Mike
Stand Jones to go and invite him to come for a beer
with us. We were turned down flat. The mistake Mike
made was telling Big Bad Bob that we were all big
Field Mice fans. He should have said that none of us
sitting round the table could have given a shiny shite
about the mewlers in question. Not only would this
have given Bob another good reason to be miserable
(and hence good material for further jaunty pop
songs), it would also have been true. Sensitive
singer-songwriters know when you are lying, you know.
They're like your mum.
Mister Alistair 'Fortune' Cookie said:
> I don't think I can actually enjoy dancing to a
> song unless I like the song
Now I'm not a great one for shaking a tail feather at
the best of times, you'll be relieved to hear, whether
or not I like the music that is on. I recently had a
fine time strutting my sadly non-proverbial stuff on
a revolving dance floor in a club on a boat in sunny
Newcastle Upon Tyne. A big boat, mind. I'm sure a
correspondent with a greater knowledge than mine of
stottie cakes and Lambton worms will tell you the name
of the place. Reader, you would have been *mortified*
if you'd seen the number of townies, neds and pikeys
in the place, honestly, it was full of those born to
the lower orders and *not like us*. God alone knows
what manner of musical misery I was being fed, but I
had a fantastic time dancing while the world revolved
around me. Actually, I fear I may have consumed enough
beer that the world would have been revolving anyway,
but it was fabulous nevertheless. And my friend
cracked his head open on this concrete spiral stairway
when the centrifugal force sent him careering from the
floor. How we laughed.
Dicky Knee had his delicate sensibilities offended:
> Have the band really been working on a track about
having a poo? That's just revolting!
I think it's nice to have some solids to go alongside
'Ease Your Feet Into The Wee'. Of course we have
already had 'The Boy With The Arab Crap' and 'Dirty
Dream Number Twos', but I'm not sure they count.
Steve Kado (any relation to Ernie K Doe?) said:
>what you're all so mad about
>isn't _sitars_ per se its lame sitar playing.
>...perhaps people shouldn't be so hasty to poop on
>indian musical instruments in general
tsk.
Oooh! Tsk is it?
It was the horrific use of sitars in rock or pop which
I was talking about. It would take a piece of
blithering idiocy of Morrissey-esque proportions (All
reggae is vile) to take a position on a whole
nation's or culture's musical forms. Although I'm no
expert on Indian music (though I do like the odd bit
of bhangra in my life, which is some of the way I
guess) I wouldn't dream of pooping on all Indian
musics. However, I wipe my arse on 'Tomorrow Never
Knows', which leaves some nasty red lesions on some
rather tender flesh.
A nasty thought occurred to me this morning. You know
how pet owners are supposed to grow to look like their
pets? I fear I may be taking on many features of my
favourite place in the world, i.e. the pub. I realised
that I am stained with, and stinking of, old bad beer
and stale cigarettes, my upholstery is looking
distinctly worn, and there is a suspicious odour
drifiting from the toilet area. I'm not sure this is a
good thing. I think it was brought about by my
exposure to the marvellous but slightly soiled 'In
Southern Waters' by Ian Marchant which I very much
enjoyed reading. Sensitive types beware, though - JD
Salinger it is not.
Looking forward to your contributions to the Looper
profanathon. Any queries, please feel free to ask me.
Play nasty, kids
Tim
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From tzuckerman at xxx.edu Tue Oct 5 00:03:59 1999
From: tzuckerman at xxx.edu (The Trainspotter)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:03:59 -0400
Subject: Sinister: re:show us your tits/ vying after a thespian from hull
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>
> kerry et al,
how it is that i always get mentioned in the same sentence with strippers?
kerry i could have gotten second to last ex-boy's new girl to do it for you.
thats what she does for a living anyway. or his old roommate as well. it
would have been brilliant - making her feel all threateny and cryey but no
evil/girlish way. just that she wont meet me or hang out with him and I cause
she thinks that really we dated and he was cheating on me with her.
i'm scared of getting sick of b&s, i know your all looking me with increadulous
expressions on your faces - but its only because my flatmates both play
tigermilk on repeat all day long. almost like eating your favourite sandwich
everyday for lunch and then a year later when your friend surprises you with
two sandwiches to play picnic on a saturday afternoon in the middle of the
winter while you watch TVLand you feel all sorta sicky like you couldnt
possibly even look at another peanutbutter and banana or glouchester with
chives and sprouts. i tried breaking it up by lending them Camber Sands tapes
and other miscellanous radio tapes but the next day its no use - although
saturday i got one of them into divine comedy and momus so that might break it
up a wee bit.
(kerry): sorry i didn't call i stayed up real late thursday nite and woke up
late friday and went a dancin and went to a friends birthday party and we got
real drunk and took funny pictures and gibby took a crumpled club flyer and
said your just a baby baby girl and covered my friends face with it while she
was talking to me. but i talked to j.k.'s flatmate and he was nice - which
means it must be a full moon or something. and this sorta friend but i havent
known him long enough just moved in with another listers (and theoretically one
of my best friends) friend (who doesnt get named cause she is just an ego ego
girl this month) lance in noho and i'm gunna play with them soon too promise.
my friend decided wearing my clothing would get him more dates - this week it
was a belle and sebastian shirt - and it worked! another arguement for hiding
good band from the evil ways of the mass culture - when was the last time you
saw someone wearing erm, a brittney spears, or backstreet boys t-shirt get
walked up to by a stranger and start a convo because they like the same bands?
see?!
oh and my little thespian from hull (honestly - i lived there with him before
he moved to london to get more work) thinks i've quasi made up belle and seb
songs so they apply to him. like i'll lend you 200 quid for a flight across
the ocean... and other stuff that i'm too lazy and busy to write about.
and just so he feels special today - happy yesterday'd birthday gibby.
-t.e.r.i.
http://come.to/teri
"she had the moves, she had the speed, it went to her head"
>
>
>
> sweet sweet teri zuckerman called me the other night, and said she'd call
> me again when she was in town friday afternoon, but i never heard from her.
> did i miss her call? i don't know. so i got drunk instead. i've been
> drinking more than ever. i think something's wrong with me. i don't even
> really like being drunk. it annoys me.
> anyway, i hope you're not all frowning at me now, because i realize this
> post was really long, but i hope you liked the bit about the strippers.
> then again, you probably didn't. so i'll shut up now.
>
> -kerry
> "maybe if you find the time you'll make out with me, desperate me."
> -halo benders, "will work for food"
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From Walkn10 at xxx.com Tue Oct 5 01:51:45 1999
From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:51:45 EDT
Subject: Sinister: A message from Lauren Tigerxdare
Message-ID:
Lauren's email has been acting a bit quirky as of late so she asked me to
send this to list cause her CPU won't oblige. Here it is:
hello my darlings,
i am back from the dead, well sort of. i havent posted in awhile. i guess
it's just been because i had to take some time out to think about some things
and figure some things out, and during that time i havent really talked to
anyone. i have been emailing back and forth with a couple of you sinister
kids, and one in particular has really been a great help. and i thank her
again...right now i just feel horrbile. i am very sick, and i just slept for
three hours and when i woke up for some odd reason all i could think about
was posting to sinister. these past couple days ive been absolutely out of
it, i guess i should go to the doctor, but its so damn expensive when you
dont have any insurance...today i acutally dragged myself out of bad for
class. i left early because i was feeling worse as the day progressed, and so
i got in my car and started to drive home. right away i knew something was
wrong with my car, and as soon as i got out of the parking lot i realized i
was screwed. the transmission apparently is bad, and i couldnt get the car to
go above 30. it just kept rev-ing up and not going anywhere. i just barely
made it home. i know it is going to cost alot of money that i dont have to
fix it, which really sucks. the car is so old though and had 189,000 miles on
it , i am probably going to have to just buy a totally new one, which sucks
even more. now i cant afford to go to europe and i am ultra-depressed right
now. thats all i have to say.
xoxo,
lauren. oh yeah and ida, one of my favorite bands is playing
philly and it is 21+ which means i cant go. i hate the world right now.
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From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Tue Oct 5 04:45:10 1999
From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (B.E. Hamilton)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:45:10 -0400
Subject: Sinister: post-it notes and hot chocolate
Message-ID: <001701bf0ee4$0680cd20$44711198@wfu.edu>
greeeeeeeeeetings fluffy observationalists of rainy days,
yes, it did rain today, and it was somewhat depressing. well, i saw gybe!
twice this weekend, yes, twice! they are absolute wonders live, and i would
go recommend everyone to see them, but two things prevent this. 1)most of
you already have because 2) the tour's over. oh well. i will say however,
that over the course of two nights i absolutely fell in love with their
violinist. she had that teddy bear look going on. my friend classified her
as a 'dike' and said she probably hated the world or something to that
effect. he then began to classify the indie scene as 'depressed and sad'.
i then remarked that all the people i know whom listen to independent music
primarily are some of the loveliest people around, period. back to the
groovy violinist, well, she reminded me of Paddington Bear. anyone who
remembers that little piece of heaven in the form of a children's book,
kudos.
i want my mom to read me bedtime stories again, i really do. is that so
wrong?
my list crush votes are forever stuck at two. better to be at zero. then
at least you realize that your gimmick is a stinker.
today i wrote a letter to pete townshend. it wasn't a geek fan-boy type
letter--it was the sort of social reflection, 'you rock' sort of ditty.
maybe he'll respond. perhaps the return envelope will have some dippity doo
inside of it. oh wait, that's roger daltrey. i typed it up and everything,
and in my box today was a package from lovely katrina containing two tee
shirts plus badges! yay!! however, on the inset of one of the cardboard
slabs was scribbled in pen the eloquent phrase, 'fuck off'. now this is the
last thing i thought would be written on a somewhat b&s related slab of
cardboard. personally i would have expected something like 'we hate isobel.
signed, everyone'. that would have been acceptable. but the personal
attack at me forced me to sit down and wonder to myself if i had invested
too much of myself in a band that in the end, doesn't care what i think. it
was harrowing. well i popped in IYFS and i'm feeling better. the world is
a scary place.
darling, read me a story. darling, help me sleep.
love,
blake xx
the nerdy shy eyed pacifist
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From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Tue Oct 5 05:04:55 1999
From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (B.E. Hamilton)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 00:04:55 -0400
Subject: Sinister: dikes and dykes
Message-ID: <000701bf0ee6$c8a9c760$44711198@wfu.edu>
a minor quib,
i was not referring to the reference made by my friend towards the lovely
violinist from gybe as a wooden structure made in holland.
rather, the other thing.
i'm an idiot, and going to bed
blake xx
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From seaborne at xxx.nl Tue Oct 5 11:27:19 1999
From: seaborne at xxx.nl (Koen)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:27:19 +0200
Subject: Sinister: dikes and dykes
Message-ID: <004601bf0f1c$34c3a080$a38d6dc2@seaborne>
>a minor quib,
>i was not referring to the reference made by my friend towards the lovely
>violinist from gybe as a wooden structure made in holland.
>
Contrary to popular belief, Dutch dikes are not made of wood. If they were,
Hans Brinker would have been much more hesitant to stick his finger into the
crack, in case of splinters. (be quiet, you dirty minded bunch there in the
back). Windmills are wooden structures that spring to mind when you think of
Holland.
Oh, thanks Belgian Koen, for telling the whole list that my name resembles
the Portuguese for c**t. It's made my life a bit easier ;)
Koen (the Dutch one)
===
Keep your Happy Traum Alive
Listen to Daryll-Ann
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From banchorymerchandise.uk at xxx.net Tue Oct 5 11:38:27 1999
From: banchorymerchandise.uk at xxx.net (Katrina House)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:38:27 +0100
Subject: Sinister: bits'n'bobs
References: <199910041643.KAA23519@turtle.esosoft.net>
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morning all,
steady mike (or steady mike stand jones as someone else said, which made me
giggle) quoth:
> October. October, October, October. Oct meaning 'eight', Ober
> meaning 'add another two'. Ah, isn't this is what it's all about ?
and then this made me laugh and then sigh and think "oh, i miss the london
sinister massissive"
... anyhow ...
Adrian, "not always what he was cracked up to be" Evans spake forth:
> i think Katrina should start a list-collection so that
> we can buy out one of the less well off footy clubs in
> Scotland. Rather than the somewhat dead Poetry Parrot
> sketch, we could take it in turns, week in week out,
> to manage the team. Bagsy Peter Withe up front.
which reminded me that i decided afterall to barrack (is that an australian
word?) for celtic ... must go online and find a team picture so i can
figuree out which players i fancy ... thanks to everyone for their reasons
why i should support thistle ... sorry for your wasted words ...
managed to delete who wrote this, but youknowwhoyouare:
> p.s. Apparantly one B+S (possibly the boy Geddes) will be D.Jing
> at the Star And Garter pub in Manchester sometime this month. This is not
an
> unsubstantiated rumour. I spoke to one of the other D>J's who plays there
> who knows whats going on. I hope anyway or have just made a twat out of
> myself.
it's actually bad belle richard colburn ... i have the date written down
here somewhere ... hang on ... here we go ... it's actually to celebrate the
club "smile" 's birthday on november 6th, which you may remember was the
afterparty celebration venue @ the manchester gigs way back in 1997 ... how
time flies.
so there you go.
list mummy said lots including most if not all of the following:
> On to business. The first thing is that that nice man Stuart David has
> finally got a publisher for his book "Nalda", extracts of which some of
> you might have read on his Looper site at
> http://www.treehouse.clara.net but which he didn't ever finish putting
> up.
and i remembered someone was wary that stuart had only got a publishing deal
because of b&s? didn't stuart write this book previous to his b&s
involvement? and didn't he also have a short story published in a
collection of short stories before 'tigermilk' was released? not meaning to
sound like sour grapes, but i think he's a writer as well as a musician and
deserves to have both available in the public view irrespective of his
success with the other. hmm, i don't think that quite made sense ... sorry.
> http://www.thehungersite.com
which i thought was an ace idea and needed reiterating.
must away
katrina
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From coool_air at xxx.com Tue Oct 5 12:32:16 1999
From: coool_air at xxx.com (Claire Timmins)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 04:32:16 PDT
Subject: Sinister: tips in a g-string made my weekend
Message-ID: <19991005113217.12513.qmail@hotmail.com>
Howya!!
Tis a long Tuesday aint it?
Im going on holiday again, isnt that great. But, again, Im at a loss for
somewhere to stay. This time its in Amsterdam. No no I dont want your
floors, I just need a little advice on fine establishment so's that I dont
end up in that big red part.
After a fine weekend in london, imagine my amazement when I agree to go to
amsterdam and find out that its the same weekend when two festivals are on
there. fate is a bugger at times, but we like it really.
Now to the music, do check out www.thebeatmuseum.demon.co.uk. This is a wee
shop in glasgow that used to brighten up that mangy bit of great western
road before the Western bar (seven day a week Karaoke folks!) by playing
funky tunes all day - until the poshers across the road complained. Geez (as
in jeez, not fannies) was it interrupting their enjoyment of listening to
the lorries and buses trundle by?..hm. Anyway the man gave me an ace james
Brown comp for 8 pounds yesterday cos it was kinda fuzzy. What a darlin'.
To the man whose name means c***, do not worry this term was highly
acceptable in the 14th century as a term for the fanny. In 1811 however it
was a nasty name for a nasty thing. Sorry.
Did you also know that the phrase Sweet Fanny adams derives from Sailors. In
1812, fanny adams was murdered, chopped up and thrown into the river. No
they never used to eat her, but they did describe their rations of tinned
mutton to be similar to Fanny adams. Therefore it became a term denoting
nothing at all. Thus Sweet F.A.
I may have told you all this before but i dont really care.
cheers me dears,
Claire**
>From: "Katrina House"
>Reply-To: "Katrina House"
>To:
>Subject: Sinister: bits'n'bobs
>Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:38:27 +0100
>
>morning all,
>
>steady mike (or steady mike stand jones as someone else said, which made me
>giggle) quoth:
>
> > October. October, October, October. Oct meaning 'eight', Ober
> > meaning 'add another two'. Ah, isn't this is what it's all about ?
>
>and then this made me laugh and then sigh and think "oh, i miss the london
>sinister massissive"
>
>
>... anyhow ...
>
>Adrian, "not always what he was cracked up to be" Evans spake forth:
>
> > i think Katrina should start a list-collection so that
> > we can buy out one of the less well off footy clubs in
> > Scotland. Rather than the somewhat dead Poetry Parrot
> > sketch, we could take it in turns, week in week out,
> > to manage the team. Bagsy Peter Withe up front.
>
>which reminded me that i decided afterall to barrack (is that an australian
>word?) for celtic ... must go online and find a team picture so i can
>figuree out which players i fancy ... thanks to everyone for their reasons
>why i should support thistle ... sorry for your wasted words ...
>
>managed to delete who wrote this, but youknowwhoyouare:
>
> > p.s. Apparantly one B+S (possibly the boy Geddes) will be D.Jing
> > at the Star And Garter pub in Manchester sometime this month. This is
>not
>an
> > unsubstantiated rumour. I spoke to one of the other D>J's who plays
>there
> > who knows whats going on. I hope anyway or have just made a twat out of
> > myself.
>
>it's actually bad belle richard colburn ... i have the date written down
>here somewhere ... hang on ... here we go ... it's actually to celebrate
>the
>club "smile" 's birthday on november 6th, which you may remember was the
>afterparty celebration venue @ the manchester gigs way back in 1997 ... how
>time flies.
>
>so there you go.
>
>list mummy said lots including most if not all of the following:
>
> > On to business. The first thing is that that nice man Stuart David has
> > finally got a publisher for his book "Nalda", extracts of which some of
> > you might have read on his Looper site at
> > http://www.treehouse.clara.net but which he didn't ever finish putting
> > up.
>
>and i remembered someone was wary that stuart had only got a publishing
>deal
>because of b&s? didn't stuart write this book previous to his b&s
>involvement? and didn't he also have a short story published in a
>collection of short stories before 'tigermilk' was released? not meaning
>to
>sound like sour grapes, but i think he's a writer as well as a musician and
>deserves to have both available in the public view irrespective of his
>success with the other. hmm, i don't think that quite made sense ...
>sorry.
>
> > http://www.thehungersite.com
>
>which i thought was an ace idea and needed reiterating.
>
>must away
>
>katrina
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From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Oct 5 12:45:20 1999
From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:45:20 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: Not too shy to apply for jobs
Message-ID:
It is time to get a life in Sinister.And the first step to land onto real
life and no dreams any longer and painting hearts around Richey's
fantastic chins is to get a job,no doubt.So Erica is going all kitchen's
sink drama into cantine-service and Tag ,very Dickensianly,has offeres to
Chris to sweep his dwelling's chimneys.
I have been given too much work to cope with!If anyone would come around
to replace me at my 4 hrs of Fortran demos...Nikita D. was into formal
logic,but does not help too much.Honey,were you in my position in a
previous life before becoming Dr PS Mitchell?55 2nd years calling at you
and some smug lecturer making me wave at them as if I was the hostess at
Ricki Lake's program,only slightly slimmer.
In fact,if I could choose,I would apply for the position as librarian
ordering at Mummy Honey's files and books.Who posted not very long ago
about nice and not nice assistants at his library,with square-framed
glasses and so?The most flattering thing I was ever told was I looked as a
sexy librarian,whatever it is,so here you are.In spite of my scattered
brains,I smile pretty well,and be dead nice with unknown people who love
books.I do.
And I can work for free!
Love
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From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Oct 5 15:02:20 1999
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:02:20 +0200
Subject: Sinister: Acid Rock - Issue 567
Message-ID: <01bf0f3a$3e3bf5e0$2c80243e@itjfvkli>
I once got a sitar record out of the library. It had four long tracks
on it: Morning Raga, Elevenses Raga, Evening Raga and Can You Start
Moving Outside Now Please Raga. It rocked.
Poor Stuart David. First he gets slagged for smelling of wee, then he
gets slagged for getting songs on B&S records, then he gets slagged
for being in Looper and now he gets slagged for getting his book
published. Sister Disco says ROCK ON STUART DAVID you big puff. I find
the DJ scam more disturbing myself.
Ladies! I have changed e-mail address. Please loosen your blouses and
update your bookmarks. It's quite an easy address to remember - just
imagine a cross between ELO and Olivia Newton John and the Spice
Girls:
pjmiller at wanadoo.es is the magic number.
Gentlemen! Have you noticed the similarity between The Stooges'
"Search and Destroy" and The Gentle Waves' hell for leather biker rock
classic "Weathershow"? They are almost exactly the same, except one of
them is by and for knuckle-dragging neanderthal slavering on-heat
rockpigs on bad acid. Which one? You decide.
Hooray for Stuart Murdoch! I've just donated a cup of rice to some
hungry people. Veterans of the Brits-rigging debacle will know that
you *can* donate more than one cup a day, just don't vote for another
dinner!
I've been watching a video by Cradle of Filth. They are BEYOND GOTH.
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From: u01cjtc at xxx.uk (Colin Campbell)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:22:55 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian daytime t.v. shocker!
Message-ID:
Was what i witnessed this lunchtime the first b&s appearance on a daytime
topical news show? Oh no that was after the brits, but anyway the
tigermilk billboard at ayr united football ground was on scotland today,
being ran past by lots of scotland football chappies, on their way to
trouncing bosnia, and progressing manfully in a most untwee way into the
euro 2000 playoffs. It was red youknow, coz it like looked dead
black'n'white in that photo.
feel it cheesemonsters.
colin.
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From lucy.alder at xxx.uk Tue Oct 5 15:20:41 1999
From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:20:41 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Getting it off my chest
Message-ID: <11020643E71FD311ACAA0008C7C563F301AB5363@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk>
I'm having the crappiest, shittiest day ever. I hate work and I nearly
cried (which I only do very rarely) and I've been told by one of the nice
people to take 10 minutes and recover from what the nasty people have been
doing. So I'm using you to calm myself down because I know you're all
lovely and good listeners. Hope you don't mind.
Last weekend I went to a stately home called Upton House and it had an
amazing garden. I think I might have told some London people about it on
Friday night (booze obscures memory - plus ca change) but I wanted to share
it with all of you because it was the most wonderful place I've ever been
to. The garden falls away down the side of a steep hill and there are high
walls, wooded bits and topiary hedges everywhere, which means that wherever
you are standing, there is always a part of the garden you can't see. The
effect is that you turn a corner and suddenly discover another part of the
garden you've not seen before - it seemed almost enchanted in the late
afternoon autumnal sunshine with its butterflies and scent of lavender . I
thought what a good place it would be for a game of hide-and-seek, and also
that it would be perfect for hand-in-hand walking and secluded snogging.
But what it made me think about most was that you never really know what's
going to happen next in your life - one day you could be doing the same old
things in the same old places, the next you could turn a corner and discover
brand-new, brilliant things. I don't think I'm expressing this very well...
I'm just a hopeless optimist and when the things in your life that are going
rather well become obscured by the things that aren't, you need to have
something to cheer you up, don't you?
Sorry for the cod-philosophy and thank you for being my medicine. I'll try
to be perky and amusing next time.
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From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 05:25:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: bruinvis and timbuktoo
Message-ID: <19991005122506.7662.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com>
hello there,
comments on recent digests follow. not that i can read
recent digests as my mail web software thing truncates
messages about 1K in so i get the digest contents and
the first three lines of the first missive before the
--- truncated ---
message. pah.
but first: the big hairy cave has finished relocating
to hammersmith. the room that was empty last week is
now too full of things in cardboard boxes to move
about in. oh um. just finished moving the boxes into
the new room and was staring idly out of the kitchen
window when a fox came and walked along the fence at
the back of the house and curled up and sat there
sunning itself for a good half an hour. in
hammersmith. blimey.
i also saw ANOTHER b&s fan on the district line tube
through hammersmith on friday lunchtime, that's two in
as many weeks. hammersmith surely is a hotbed for
closet b&s fans. and no, i said nothing to him either.
'hello' if you're reading this. how's the paul auster?
laurel and brandt were talking about not talking to
people on trains. we don't do that here either. which
always seems like a pity as trains usually have an
interesting social mix. the one time i went to
scotland i took a little time to go across the forth
bridge in a train (which was probably a bad idea cos
it's hard to see the forth bridge whilst actually ON
the forth bridge but...) and i was quite shocked to
hear strangers on the train talking to one another
quite happily. buckfast has a lot to answer for.
looper book signing: i wonder if i can get him to sign
it 'this is pish'? he'll probably just tell me to fuck
off. again.
trousers:
> Now, whatever happened to Watson and Begbie? Hmm
> that sounds like a good title for a detective
> series....
rod begbie is alive and well and occasionally posts to
slashdot: news for nerds.
pamelab:
>and I said to myself, self, you should post to the
>list that brought you and the hubby together in the
>first place
aah, i remember that first meeting, in the pub on the
sunday of the manchester weekend, meeting pam for
lunch only to find that the pub we'd chosen was closed
and eating instead in the french place across the
street, me, pam and my friend from university. i
ordered a grilled cheese sandwich expecting cheddar
filled triangles and it arriving as melting brie in a
toasted baguette. later i had to leave, trains and
stuff, leaving those two to their own devices. little
did any of us know...
>after a boozy night out sometimes I need to drop the
>needle on the mat a couple of times before actually
>finding the edge of the record.
peel, during his 'sounds of the suburbs' series, went
and visitied some people who make 7" singles from
things like slices of wood, circular saw blades,
sandpaper discs and biscuit (they looked quite nice,
had proper labels and everything) and they said that
they never have any trouble with needles, the needles
being diamond tipped and all.
>next week: we test-drive a porsche armed only with a
>fourth generation tape copy of tigermilk! I'll let
>you know how it sounds.
pah! i did that tape. and it was straight from the
vinyl. some people. ungrateful... 8)
oh, and if E.A. Hotstepper doesn't like toronto (or
indeed montreal) then she could always go somewhere
friendly like los angeles, i'm sure she'd have a
wonderful time there, there are some great clubs
around, especially on thursday nights... (knowing
smile... 8)
andy
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From bfundak at xxx.org Tue Oct 5 16:58:51 1999
From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:58:51 -0400 (EWT)
Subject: Sinister: Train etiquette
Message-ID:
I had to sit next o a large woman on the train today, who felt she needed
to take up parts of both seats. Had she moved over a bit, even as large as
she was, we both could have sat comfortably. I think it is this sort of
rudeness that makes me want to talk to no one on the train. I think that
when you have a train full of people, you should be nice enough to
conserver space for others.
I also don't understand why people are in such a rush to get off the train
when you are getting off at the last stop. One day the woman I was
sitting next to asked me to move so she could get off at the next stop,
but everybody had to get off at that stop. Was her sitting by the train
door really going to make much of a difference for her ETA at work?
And I must say I am rather shocked that no one on the list has really said
anything about American Beauty. I just saw it last night and was blown
away. Kevin Spacey gives the performance of his career (and as brilliant
as he has been in other films, that's a tough thing to do.)
Take care all,
Brandt
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From lleweth at xxx.com Tue Oct 5 19:42:38 1999
From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 11:42:38 PDT
Subject: Sinister: I was born Ready...
Message-ID: <19991005184239.55319.qmail@hotmail.com>
This is my first post and so I'd like to introdruce myself.
*in my best beauty pageant voice*
My name is Laura Llew and I'm from North Carolinnnnaa. I simply adore trees,
rainy days, people watching, literature, star gazing, music, roadtrips,
lists, elbow touching and Belle and Sebastian. I discovered B&S from a
friend. While listing what his 5 favorite albums were, he mentioned "If
you're feeling sinister'. Since I had never heard of them and generally
trust his taste, I picked up the cd. I fell in love with them and plunged
head long into an obsession with them (which I usually do. I've always
wished I was a minimalist but it's just not in my blood). I just recently
got my grubby hands on their ep's and such and LOVE it. So if anyone else on
this list has been thus deprived as I was, I will be more than willing to
share. Because that's what kind of person I am.. Tee Hee Hee
*lying through my twisted and gnarled teeth*
Ok, ok. So we all know that this isn't my first post. But I realized that I
was never did the hip first post introduction. Indulge me this one time.
This weekend was my birthday and it was absolutely miserable. Plus, I spent
the whole day listening to my mother worry about how her little girl is
going to become an old maid. I'm 22 and still completely single. Obviously,
there is some flaw I have that makes me undesirable. Obviously, this is her
fault. Obviously. I could take out a personal ad and find someone to calm
her mind. But knowing me, it'd end up reading
"Bitter chic needs barely tolerable man with vulgar social graces,
below average looks and inconsequentil means for occasional dates as
a reminder to remain univolved."
For my mother's sake, I won't.
I was thinking (scary prospect I know). Are we a single parent list? I mean
I just know of our list mummy, Honey, but I've never heard of a list daddy.
I was too young to remember when it all happened. Did he run off on our
mother for a new younger limp biskit list or some other trampy hoochie
mamma? Is Honey depressed and lonely and I just have missed the signs of
the red glassy eyes in the late afternoons when he rolls out of bed? Do we
have to fear a new father coming and taming us, the unruly children. Or can
we just blame the fact that we were raised in a single parent list?
The Laura Llew Literary List is completed and up on the web. It still needs
a bit of tweaking (not really. i just wanted to use that word. tweaking.
*shivers). But the unveiling of it will be soon. I am on my fifth suggested
book already *showing off and making you all chartreuse with envy*. This one
was recommended by our very own Pursed Lips Boneboy. Its "Confederacy of
Dunces" by Toole. I'm not that far into it but so far its made me chuckle
more than once. Something that I need. So far, so good.
I'm an INTJ. If you're curious as to what you are or what we're talking
about go to http://keirsey.com/ it's about a 50 multiple choice question
test thats pretty quick to take. I took the test in high school and then
took it last night from this website. Guess my personality hasn't changed in
6 years. I didn't have one then and I don't have one now.
Laura
"Filling your Laura Llew needs since 1977"
***Laura Llew's List Member of the Week***
That member who I've never had any contact with but I think is just the
tops.... Randomness Really.... anyway, hush hush... It Is
James Gilmer......
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From: andrea.ware at xxx.com (foxinthesnow)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 13:49:10 -0700
Subject: Sinister: I was born Ready...
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so i was reading the list a bit because its been so long since i have had the chance...and i was so happy to see the refrence to the myers/briggs personality tests....because i have just learned about them, and taken my first in my education class at school...i was also pleased to see that the type given was totally different than mine, i'm an ENFP, like most of my class mates are, which i suppose shouldn't come as much surprise since we're all art students--but don't get on my case for generalising, i don't want to be stepping on any list toes...but yeah, just a comment.
now, about the spinster bit at twenty-two. i too, have reached that peachy age, and last year, while taking a break in iowa from a roadtrip, my grandmother, a sprite seventy two year old red headed lady, wearing tight calvins, mind you, lectured me on how i should wait for a long time before i get married. she even made me promise that i wouldn't marry for quite a long time after that...maybe this was due to the fact that she thought my boyfriend, who was present during all of this, didn't make her cut, but what is really odd about the whole thing is that just earlier that summer my cousin, who is now twenty-eight, recounted to me that when she was twenty-one, the same grandmother told her if she weren't married by the time she was twenty-three, that she's be a a spinster....
what is a girl to do?
well good luck to you, and don't swallow any of the familial pressures of mate-dom.
crum, crum.
hey, is the other rondelle's fan still on the list? if so, maybe we could do some music swapping? i still haven't been able to get a copy of that last cd! so let me know.
i hope everyone on the list eats a piece of chocolate cake with strawberries on top today, that is unless it doesn't suit your tastes...
andrea
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From: ISawUfall at xxx.com (ISawUfall at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:58:56 EDT
Subject: Sinister: anyone in NJ, PRINCETON??? NYC peeps!
Message-ID:
just curious if anyone's around.....any NYC meetups?
any good places in NYC to dance to B&S, indie, britpop, etc...what nights?
likes to dance,
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From: keythkeyth at xxx.net (keith mclachlan)
Date: 5 Oct 99 19:10:28 PDT
Subject: Sinister: no one will ever love you honestly
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i have seen american beauty and i had the exact opposite reaction to brandt's.
i though everything about it was ugly, magnifying all of the most vile and
base characteristics of modern life made me queasy, i don't relate to the
characters on screen(i suppose that is the point of fiction eh?) and seeing
people around me laugh uneasily made me feel miserable? i suppose i am
sounding rather pedestrian here, all donna reed even but i didn't care about
anyone in the movie, the climax had absolutely no effect on me and the malaise
of the movie infected me for days. is this the movie's triumph? the fact
that it drags you deep into its dire domain.
i am still hoping for a revival of beauty as hope not as simple irony.
for the elephant dung/virgin controversy, what is shocking to me is how cheap
stunts still ellicit such reactions? public funding is censorship so to claim
the threat of refusal of funds is censorship is all a bit redundant.
keith
'lovers of the arctic circle' was beautiful, sad that i must cling to it
because everything else i have seen this year has made me wilt.
anyone have the new moose ep yet? i have only just sent my six dollars off to
roy saltwater this evening.
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From Catspaw1 at xxx.com Wed Oct 6 05:21:42 1999
From: Catspaw1 at xxx.com (Catspaw1 at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 00:21:42 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Door open yet?
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Probationary period over? I promise not to be a nuisance, but another intro
couldn't hurt, eh?
I feel old looking at the list makeup, just edging out of my twenties.
Wasted a decade, aside from some personal growth, a marriage and college, but
I'm still not where I want to be, so I guess it doesn't mean much. Hazy
dreamer and all that...
I'm in the middle of the USA, what we call the "Heartland" here in the
states, and things are flat but not that dull. I write...anything really,
comic books at the moment...a book called Love in Tights for the nonce...back
in school because the brain begins to rot, and stimuli was so desperately
needed.
And I discovered B&S in a record store the week IYFS was released. After
wondering aloud about the sound (the Kinks covering Nick Drake? What? Eh?),
the clerk shoved a copy in my hands, and I've never looked back... One of my
goals is to spread the gospel to friends and family, and I've just done a mix
for my brother-in-law (who just finished law school and is generally to be
found drinking with me when I'm in town, listening to music into the wee
hours). I hope the powers that be don't frown upon a B&S mix. Copyrights
aside, the idea is to introduce the band in full, and lead him and my sis
down the path with the arab strap.... The tunes on said disc:
The State I Am In
Expectations
She's Losing It
Stars of Track and Field
Seeing Other People
Me and the Major
Like Dylan in the Movies
The Fox in the Snow
Get Me Away From Here...
If You're Feeling Sinister
Judy and the Dream of Horses
Lazy Line Painter Jane
It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career
Sleep the Clock Around
A Summer Wasting
The Boy With the Arab Strap
The Rollercoaster Ride
Have I missed anything? Of course I have. That's the point.
Just cueing up The Wicker Man (which stars a young Edward Woodward)...night
all...
B Clay
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From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com Wed Oct 6 10:02:12 1999
From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 02:02:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: an ode to..... (you'll have to read this mail to find out)
Message-ID: <19991006090212.7303.rocketmail@web1401.mail.yahoo.com>
pah. load of rubbish.
1)- Chris Geddes in pantene pro-v advert scare?
My little brother even saw it and said "That
looks like the gnome guy out of that band you like"
because he'd seen him on tv after the brits shocker,
and thought that he looked odd. Frolicking with
beautiful women indeed.
2)- Has the amusing insult to be directed at George
dickie, or just a general insult?
3)- message for erica - (adapted from the words of don
mclean)
"You see, everybody loves me,( babychris)
What's the matter with you?
Won't you please tell me what did I do to offend
you?"
:) :) :) :)))))))
|
guy with many chins
She never replys to my mails.... she said I sounded
like a right twat...... I think that's a pretty nasty,
rude thing to say if you ask me. Maybe that's what
fame and popularity did to her... :)
4)- is anyone going to looper in virgin in glasgow?
stupid question, I know.
:)
I have to stop using the :).
5)- I see that honey said that people like me have
been mailing far too much rubbish to the list (I slap
my hand...ouch!)
but is this really a forum for discusion of b&s
anymore, or is it not more of a community of like
minded people who get along and like to chat and share
their problems. Or have we been abusing it?
babychris
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From u02nim at xxx.uk Wed Oct 6 17:25:59 1999
From: u02nim at xxx.uk (Iain McGilp)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:25:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinister: A Single Plum Floating in Perfume, Served in a Man's Hat
Message-ID:
Hey kids,
Its good to know that eveyone seems to have had an even
more depressing summer than I have, judging by the torrent
of thoroughly miserablist e-mails that I have accumulated.
My holidays basically consisted of working non-stop for
didley-squat cash in the Hamilton branch of a well known
chain of British sport stores who shall remain
nameless. The one useful nugget that I managed to derive
from my time there is that Celtics' entire support have
three teeth. Between the lot of them. I could pour my
overburdened little heart out at this point about the
horrors of being a wage slave, but I realise that this
would be horribly offensive to those of you who actually do
hold down full-time employment, unlike my layabout student
self, so I'll keep quiet.
Being such a media-literate soul, it seems that I am the
only person who has picked up on Scotland on Sunday's
(broadsheet newspaper, for the uninitiated) Most Eligible
Bachelor shenanigans. Disturbingly enough at number 48 (a
whole 26 places behind Rangers' uber-ned centre-half Scott
" aye, ah used tae be a bit mental, ken" Wilson) was one
Mick Cooke (Musician). He apparently sleeps with his
trumpet you know. Unbeleivably they somehow managed to omit
my good self from the list (I phoned instantly to correct
them on what was clearly a typographic error (vindictive
printer?)) (My English teacher once accused me of using too
many brackets. The hell I do).
Tragically enough, it is now lunchtime and I have still not
sobered up from last night's titanic Scotland vs. Bosnia
post-match celebrations (in fact I may well be sick over
my computer. Who's to say.). We're talking a piss-up of
Charlie Sheen-esque proportions.
(Till the next time)
(Iain McG.)
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From bfundak at xxx.org Wed Oct 6 13:58:32 1999
From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:58:32 -0400 (EWT)
Subject: Sinister: Remembering the first time...
Message-ID:
One time I was sitting out on the porch of my mom's house and was shucking
corn or something strange that I usually would not be doing and listening
to Belle and Sebastian. i wasn't a big fan at the time, and all I owned
was Sinister, which I had bought on a lark because Beth Arzy liked them
and if they were good enough for the girl from Aberdeen (the band, not the
city) they were good enough for me. Well the title track came on and I
really wasn't paying much attention to the recording, but my mom walked
out just as stuart sings "she was into s & m and bible studies, not
everyone's cup of tea she would admit to me" and she got all prudish and
she gave me a "tsk, tsk what is that garbage you are listening to" sort of
response.
I don't listen to Belle and Sebastian around my mom anymore.
Brandt
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From p.cullen at xxx.com Wed Oct 6 14:12:42 1999
From: p.cullen at xxx.com (Paula Cullen)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:12:42 +0100
Subject: Sinister: whatever i said, whatever i did, i didn't mean it...
Message-ID: <01BF1004.DBF2CFA0.p.cullen@music-control.com>
fancy seeing you lot here.......
i decided to resubsribe as you can see.
i also decided not to learn how to spell "resubscribe", as you can also
see.
even though i've only been gone a month or so, i was mighty confused
reading all yer messages.
thank god for claire timmins, however, dragging things down to base level
(as per usual) and waxing lyrical about genitals.....
now theres something we can all relate to, eh?
not much has been happening 'round my way since i left you.
a big "aiight?" to all the kidz i met in london, and um, cheers or
something, to the people who expressed considerable surprise at the fact
that i *was* in fact female, and not a portly, bearded Angryman.
sheesh, if i had a pound for every time i've heard that........
anyway, just saying hi an' that. i'll be in touch.
paula cullen booze explosion
booooze!!!! yeeeaaahh!!!
"getting beer poured over your head isn't necessarily a bad thing.
it's cold, it's good for your hair, and it makes you smell like a champ."
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From Mark at xxx.com Wed Oct 6 14:16:28 1999
From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:16:28 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Throw your hands in the motherf****n' air
Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2297F269@SERVER1>
So, after a year and a half I finally figure out what Andy Dean's email
address means. Doh...certain listees will be able to vouch for my
astonishing lack of lateral thinking ability (no, Nick, I didn't say
"cock"), but that does take the biscuit. Next week, Mark finds the secret
formula for deciphering Steady Mike's moniker...
My brother casually dropped into conversation the other day that he won the
jackpot on a fruit machine at the casino in Venice. Jammy bugger! He
chickened out of roulette, though ("lucky man", as Ally Cook is no doubt
muttering under his breath), which seems a pity, as he'd have been
guaranteed to have starlets draped all over him at the table. 247,000 lire
he won. Still, if he fails medical school, as it seems he might at the
moment, he'll need to get in a few more big money prizes...
Went to the dogs on Friday night. The best bit was when me and Miss Vicky's
horses (as I called them all night) came in together at the finish - a dead
heat! So we both won cash. We didn't do too badly on the betting side,
either - well, better than the law of averages, which is all you can really
hope for. It was pretty smart, actually - possible location for future
Sinister shindigs, perhaps? Though playing fey songs on the guitar
surrounded by paunchy townies and their barrel-shaped, slightly soiled wives
(*vast cultural stereotype ahoy, but it's largely true, honest*) may not be
a good move. On a lighter, or at least more gravity-defying note, I came
across the first pair of fake breasts I can remembering seeing (I don't mean
Gazza-esque yabos, but silicon-enhanced). Don't they look funny! Silly cow.
Does patiently waiting for new B&S material to be released make you
apathetic or increasingly, ravenously excited? I have to say it's the former
for me. But then I don't really like music any more. Except for Seymour
Stein :-)
Mark xxx
p.s. today I have mostly been drinking a Gingko Biloba and Kola Nut drink
from the Japanese Canteen. Anyone have any idea what it's supposed to be
doing to me?
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From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Wed Oct 6 16:30:33 1999
From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE DICKIE)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 08:30:33 PDT
Subject: Sinister: READ ME AND DELETE ME
Message-ID: <19991006153034.66187.qmail@hotmail.com>
YER
HELLO AGAIN
ETC
I'M JUST RESPONDING TO STEVE C
REALLY
WHO SAID
I bought Gram Parson's two solo records the other day and I am just simply
amazed.
YER I LOVE GP 2
MY FAV GP SONG IS
STREETS OF BALTIMORE
AN INTERESTING FACT IS
THAT Y' KNOW ON DA GREVIOUS ANGEL LP
THERE IS THAT MEDLEY LIVE FROM NORTHEN QUEBEC
WELL IT IS NOT LIVE
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN BUT THE GIG NEVER WENT AHEAD
SO GP GOT PEOPLE TO MAKE CROWD SOUNDS
TO FOOL US
IF YOU READ THE SLEEVE INSIDE
IT CALLS IT BACKGROUND BLAH-BLAH
STEVE C
ALSO TALKS OF MARIO CART
I AM A MASTER AT THAT GAME
I HOPE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SNES VERSION
AS WE ALL KNOW THAT IS THE BEST
*WE CAN CHANGE YOUR LIFE WITHOUT CHANGING YOUR BATHROOM*
- THIS IS A QUOTE FROM MY FAV ADVERT AT THE MO
IF YOU ARE AS SAD AS ME
YOU WILL KNOW WHICH ADVERT
I HOPE NOBODY KNOWS
'CAUSE YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE THIS SAD
OHHHHH
NO
LOVE
AND
A
GUN
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From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Wed Oct 6 17:36:18 1999
From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (Linda Kerr)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:36:18 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Rejected by rodents
In-Reply-To: <19991004222648.8848.rocketmail@web1005.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID:
Tim Hopkins said..
> I recently had a
> fine time strutting my sadly non-proverbial stuff on
> a revolving dance floor in a club on a boat in sunny
> Newcastle Upon Tyne. A big boat, mind. I'm sure a
> correspondent with a greater knowledge than mine of
> stottie cakes and Lambton worms will tell you the name
> of the place.
I do know that this place is called the Tuxedo Royale, an excellent
name, and it is a fine sight, although unlike popkins hopkins I never
ventured on. I would have given lots of money to see Tim groovin'
tho.
Short and sweet.
Linda
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From Elizabeth.Kurtis at xxx.com Wed Oct 6 18:37:38 1999
From: Elizabeth.Kurtis at xxx.com (Kurtis, Elizabeth)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:37:38 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Popstars, popstars
Message-ID: <262810611403D211A8FF00A0C94CAF3B024DE4B3@QUAY-STREET1>
Hello list,
Anything to escape the torment that is Ricki Lake! My co-workers insist on
watching it even though they complain the whole time. Then comes along Pet
Rescue and I end up crying on the bus ride home.
I'm tempted to check out that Smile night where Richard will be DJ'ing, even
though it's an act of treason of sorts...it's no longer the same people
running it as when the B&S aftershow party was you see. Any idea what sorts
of records he'll play?
Speaking of Richard, I think Pumpkinny failed to mention that we saw him
posing as a member of Snow Patrol on Mark and Lardie's Pop Quiz the other
week. The average indie kid might well have been fooled but not us! It's
shocking really. Next thing you know we'll be having Aggi Pastel
substituting for Isobel. Which isn't such a bad thing come to think of it.
Oh god, there's a fox with one of those lampshade things on his neck on Pet
Rescue...and a muzzle. Genevieve, there's an image for your next dream
involving Stuart!
love,
elisabeth
Casting, Manchester
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From acook at xxx.uk Wed Oct 6 18:11:27 1999
From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MS1996)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 18:11:27 +0100
Subject: Sinister: This mail is a torrent of wee. Read it if you must.
Message-ID: <37FB82BF.A2AC31A4@cs.strath.ac.uk>
Hello gorgeous ones.
What is it with Sinister lookie-likies on buses? This morning the
spitting image of Sam Norman got on, and on Friday night there was a
bloke who looked like Joss Moorkens. Unfortunately it was only after I'd
felt his arse and got a smack in the gob for me troubles that I
discovered it was in fact only a very angry Scottish bloke. Luckily I've
got a good supply of soup in the house at the mo.
I also had a dream with the Booze Explosion in it, but can't remember
anything about it other than I thought she was someone else for ages,
then realised she was prettier than the person I thought she was, and
had an Irish accent. Then I woke up. Not very interesting, I know.
I met the most honest tramp in the world the other day. He came up to me
and said
"Could ye spare any change? It's no fur a cup a tea, it's fur a can a
beer. Ah don't like tae lie, ye see "
However I didn't think encouraging his alcoholism would be a prudent
move, so I lied and said I only had a tenner. And he said he was very
sorry to bother me, and went away. I'd have asked for the tenner.
Great sunset the other night. One of those ones that turns the clouds
orange on the bottom, then pink. I watched it from the bus and smiled a
lot.
Tim "The Horse and Arse" Hopkins:
> A nasty thought occurred to me this morning. You know
> how pet owners are supposed to grow to look like their
> pets? I fear I may be taking on many features of my
> favourite place in the world, i.e. the pub. I realised
> that I am stained with, and stinking of, old bad beer
> and stale cigarettes, my upholstery is looking
> distinctly worn, and there is a suspicious odour
> drifiting from the toilet area.
I'd say he's more of an upmarket wine bar. Have you seen the prices he
charges for a swift one? The service is terrible as well.
God, Scotland were pish last night. "I've never seen such a display of
shiteness in all my life!", as drunken bum and part time guitarist Alun
Woodward said at Bowlie. However due to the most dodgy refereeing
decision this side of the last Holyfield - Lewis fight, we are in the
playoffs, where we will no doubt be gubbed by England.
Snow Patrol were entertaining as ever on Friday night, even if no-one
else likes them except me. The gist of their set was:
Gary Patrol: "Cheer the fuck up, you miserable Scottish bastards! Start
dancing, abuse me, abuse my body like I abuse yours!"
Crowd: "Your maw's got baws, your maw's got baws!"
GP: "Cunts, cunts, whores, whores!"
Crowd: "You fucking Irish bastards, you're shite!"
GP: "You really are a shower of shite, aren't you?" [takes off trousers
and shows arse]
Lovely stuff. Actually the best bit was when the lead singer from Senna
ran on and fell over the stage, then stole the microphone. But you had
to be there I guess.
Oh, Elizabeth just said:
> Speaking of Richard, I think Pumpkinny failed to mention that we saw him
> posing as a member of Snow Patrol on Mark and Lardie's Pop Quiz the other
> week. The average indie kid might well have been fooled but not us!
Well he is sort of, if you can call playing the shakers and a little bit
of keyboard being a member of the band.
The DJ played REM's cover of the Clique's 'Superman' the other night,
which made me happy. All the best bands have names begin with Cl you
know. The Clique, The Clash, The Clientele, Club 8, The Clai...oh, there
goes that theory. Is there a band called The Clangers, and if not, why
not? There used to be a band called The Clitoris, but their records are
notoriously hard to find.
Somebody kill me before I write a book.
Alasdair xx
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From jmoorkens at xxx.ie Wed Oct 6 19:08:22 1999
From: jmoorkens at xxx.ie (Joss Moorkens)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 19:08:22 +0100
Subject: Sinister: small willy style
Message-ID:
Aiight, homies.
In the style of Dr Pants:
BELLE AND SEBASTIAN
Don't think I've ever mentioned them much before, but Robin Stout's talk of
TV's obsession with sex and violence made me think. I reckon part of what I
like about B&S is the... umm... innocence of the songs. It feels like some
respite from the world of sex and violence flung at us from most other forms
of media. I mean.... I imagine Struan's idea of 'a dirty weekend' in Seeing
Other People involves going rock climbing and getting your cuffs a little
muddy. I can see how this little world could be a little cloying for some,
like Mr Hefner, but maybe he just isn't as naive as me. Of course, I do
swear like a navvy, but hey... I'm a victim too. Can anyone tell me what a
navvy is?
The latest outlet for my swearing is:
THE ALL NEW TERRY AND JUNE SHOW
I've decided to cash in on the fact that alternative comedy means cussing a
lot by writing an updated version of Terry and June for Channel 4 or another
miscellaneous fringe channel. Current episodes in the pipeline are Terry
Suffers From Tourette's Syndrome, June's Herpes, Terry's Warts and June
Comes Out. The last one features a top notch lesbian lovefest as the show's
climax. So to speak. I feel a winner coming on....
June Whitfield hasn't been returning my calls, but Terry came on board after
I agreed to pay him a tenner and a pack of fags per episode.
THE POETRY PARROT
As you will have gleaned by now, I am not the most literate gentleman in our
illustrious clan. Therefore, I accepted the help of one Amanda Bergman in
providing you with your parroty poem. Props to Genevieve's washing line for
sending the fellow my way:
Destroying Beauty
a rose
red sunlight:
I take it apart
in the garage
like a puzzle:
the petals are as greasy
as old bacon
and fall
like the maidens of the world
backs to floor
and I look up
at the old calendar
hung from a nail
and touch
my wrinkled face
and smile
because
the secret
is beyond me.
That was written by the late, alcoholic and antisocial Mr Charles Bukowski.
On which subject, may I quote Megan's Sinister Manifesto: "proclaiming joss
as the mighty king of the party to which there is no end." Ooo. I've never
been called mighty before. Unfortunately, the party I dragged some sinisters
to recently was far from mighty, so they might just disagree with you there,
Megan. Charmed, though.
Lucky charms to Birthday Tim (your Zappa LP is in the post, hippyboy),
moving EA & John and Emma WarranderJohn.
COWS
Throw some cows for me. http://www.mediafarm.no/forsoksgard/kukaster.asp
love
yerpointlessunclejoss xx
PS. I now command the parrot to poo upon.... Ms Giita.
Yes yes, I know....
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From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Wed Oct 6 22:25:51 1999
From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE DICKIE)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 14:25:51 PDT
Subject: Sinister: TO ALL THOSE WITHOUT MOBILE PHONES
Message-ID: <19991006212552.97929.qmail@hotmail.com>
HELLO LOVERS
AND NON-LOVERS
AND OTHERS
AND STEVE C
YER
I DON'T HAVE THE GP TRIBUTE
THOUGHT ABOUT IT
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
FAV MARIO CART PLAYER
PROB TOAD
BUT THE QUESTION IS TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HARD
OH
AND
BABYCHRIS
but is this really a forum for discusion of b&s
anymore, or is it not more of a community of like
minded people who get along and like to chat and share
their problems. Or have we been abusing it?
THE LIST IS ABOUT PEOPLE
PEOPLE CAN NOT TALK 24/7 B&S
AND AS
THERE IS LITTLE NEWS OF B&S AT THE MO
OUR MINDS WILL FLOW
THIS IS WHY COMMUNISM DID NOT WORK
CAN YOU HAVE A COMMUNISM WITH FREE MINDS
I HOPE SO
*I'M HIGH IN THOUGHT LOW IN LIFE*
LOVE
AND
GIVING A CAT DOG FOOD
TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS
'CAUSE YOUR SOOOO BORED
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From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 15:00:40 PDT
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Hello all:
DOODLe
Today I drew a picture of a bird. I was slightly surprised how it came out.
I drew it on a yellow postit with a blue ball pen, and it's kinda cheerfully
inspecting a phone number for a word. It actually looks like a bird. As i
said, I am surprised.
LUNCH
was bad. bad lunch=bad day.
A NICE THINGAMABOB
I would like to have nice thingamabob underneath my name on my emails. a
picture of tigger, an eloquent "Fuck!" from such characters as that Jarvis
one, but I really can't think of a thing.
*thinks*
nope,not a thing. when it's gray out I lose liveliness. all I want is a hot
chocolate and some appropriate music. maybe something with strings? and
sometimes all I want to do is lie in bed with the lights on at night and
sort of think about things. anyway, it's a bit like mix tapes. what comes
next? (after a signature) it's an aesthetic thing. or it could be, anyway.
MOO, JOSS, MOO
I like Joss. I like to throw cows.
it reminds me of the beautiful piano catapult on Northern Exposure.
STUART DAVID
I watched tv with him in a dream. I read chapter one of his book in a
non-dream, and liked it. a bit "watermelon sugar"-esque in the simplicity of
his words. i think that trying to stay innocent in these cynical times keeps
you an outsider, and the book seems to be about that. It makes me want to
curse at tim. do we get double points for the "innocent curse"? whatever
that might be.
cyn
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From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:11:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: All wrapped up...
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Hello you lot,
Death and Smiths and drinking and appearances.
Sometimes I am overwhelmed with all the topics, but
isn't this life? I would rather be overwhelmed and/or
confused than bored - and boring this list is not. I
read it all and I am happy.
Well, I found and bought Belle & Sebastian live at the
bowlie bbc cd. I think I can hear some of you yelling
and whooping it up. Ah. This cd makes my heart flutter
like I've got a crush on someone. Occasionally, it
fools me into thinking I really do have a tangible and
here crush, but I don't. Maybe it's just Stuart's
voice, the way he says, "(flaming) lips".
I haven't yet seen American Beauty or anything else
"mainstream" because the Vancouver Film Festival has
been going on and, being the poor/cheap bastard I am,
I volunteered (free movies!). By Sunday I will have
seen 15 films in about 2 weeks. Yow. Only price to pay
was that of having to deal with self-important
film-school types. Anyway. I saw "Get Real", a British
film about a 16 year old boy who is gay and wants to
fall in love and be loved, like all teenagers (and
everyone?). That's an over-simplification of the plot,
but I don't want to give anything away. This film is
so good and sweet and smart. Makes me want to be in
super-love. Everyone who is sinister should go and see
it.
I also saw "The War Zone". Bleak. I'm not quite sure
what I think of it. A lot of rain and wind. A messed
up family. Made me feel like something terrible had
just happened in my family and I'd just gone and sat
in my room in the middle of winter for days on end,
blocking thoughts and stagnating. I don't know whether
this is good or bad, just that it is something that
happens in life. Of course, the film did not last for
days on end, but for only about 2 hours.
The Netherlands' "One Man and His Dog" was good
(though no Arling and Cameron in the soundtrack). As
was Canada's "4 Days". And lots of others. So many
movies. It puts me into a bit of a state, very
visually oriented and always thinking that I am being
entertained or merely an observer rather than actually
*in* my life. Levels of reality.
I did the Keirsey test. I am labeled as an INFP.
Pretty bang on. The descriptions of personalities are
quite good. I never want to fall for believing it all
though, like I wouldn't want to accept the facts of my
fate if they became known to me.
On that strange note,
infp (in nothing for parentheses) yours,
Robyn
P.S. Thank you Laura for putting your lit list up on
the web. My film-strained eyes await its launch.
P.S.x2 I don't know why I'm speaking in such a weird
tone today. Maybe it is because my hair is extra messy
- must be the rain. My hairdresser (sorry, "stylist")
calls it "a controlled mess", but today I forgot the
control part.
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~~~
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From: durkw at xxx.com (Derek Wuenschirs)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 01:58:29 +0100
Subject: Sinister: hi.
Message-ID: <001f01bf105f$1542cc60$b07838d4@cs479060a>
dearest sinister listees,
Teri said I shouldn't be scared to
introduce myself.. so.. here I go:
In any case.. I'm Derek, a transplanted
Torontonian sinister listee, now living
in the thriving metropolis that is London...
Anyone care to play with a crazy canadian
who has an all-too-unhealthy fascination with
b&s? please feel free to drop me a line.
Hello to Vince R., whose number I've somehow
misplaced, please e-mail me..
Hi to Debbie and any other Torontonian
listees...
I'm living in Shepherd's Bush, it's nice.
that's my story, I hope you like it.
sweet Christ, if this isn't the most fantastic
city on earth...
not really sure what else to write, besides
the fact that I have no idea what to
do in this city for fun..
oh, and this is me:
http://members.home.net/durkw
(it hasn't been updated since the day I
left Toronto)
luff,
derek
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From Alexandre.Tobin at xxx.nl Thu Oct 7 08:45:20 1999
From: Alexandre.Tobin at xxx.nl (Alexandre Tobin)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 09:45:20 +0200
Subject: Sinister: crossing border (part 2)
Message-ID: <19991007074059453.AAA433@www-server.ucu.uu.nl@[131.211.105.90]>
Good Morning.
Please forgive me if I've already asked this, but is anyone from the list
going to the Crossing Border festival in the Hague (NL) today, tomorrow, or
on Saturday?
Please get in touch with me, and we could have a mini Sinister meet-up...
Thanks!
Alex
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http://www.postmodern.co.uk
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From Elizabeth.Kurtis at xxx.com Thu Oct 7 10:42:15 1999
From: Elizabeth.Kurtis at xxx.com (Kurtis, Elizabeth)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:42:15 +0100
Subject: Sinister: RE: richard/snow patrol
Message-ID: <262810611403D211A8FF00A0C94CAF3B024DE4B4@QUAY-STREET1>
Alasdair said:
>Oh, Elizabeth just said:
> >> Speaking of Richard, I think Pumpkinny failed to mention that we saw
> >>him posing as a member of Snow Patrol on Mark and Lardie's Pop Quiz
> >>the other week. The average indie kid might well have been fooled but
> not >>us!
>
> Well he is sort of, if you can call playing the shakers and a little bit
> of keyboard being a member of the band.
>
Ah yes, I forgot to add that he had a name card and it was definitely did
not say Richard on it.
elisabeth xx
p.s. Anyone else horrified and yet strangely fascinated by that Village
People-esque Ambrosia custard and oats dessert advert? There hasn't been one
like it since Kelly's 'what eeees thiss remaarkable antii-persspirant?'
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From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Oct 7 12:26:49 1999
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:26:49 +0200
Subject: Sinister: Spot the Acid Casualty
Message-ID: <01bf10b6$d9e4b540$LocalHost@itjfvkli>
I've made up a great new game called "Spot the Acid Casualty". All you
have to do is go to the Sinister photos page and spot the acid
casualty...
The other night I watched a great film, "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's
Next", which I'd seen before, yonks ago. In the meantime someone had
filled it up with really heavy shit and I ended up feeling like I'd
had a meal full of lead. And it was well past my bedtime. It reminded
me a lot of the list actually, especially when the boat starts going
round in circles. For example, we've had the discussion about what the
list's for and what it isn't for lots of times, and it usually ends up
with a call for "balance", which means shut the fuck up. No it
doesn't, I'm only pulling your leg. It means whatever you think it
means, man. When I were a lad, and e-mail was the exclusive preserve
of high-ranking soldiers, we had to find someone daft enough to listen
to us if we wanted to whine on about not having a girlfriend or really
fancying someone and not daring to speak to them because they showed
signs of social competence and looked likely to want to go out with
someone with a bit more gumption. It seems a shame that this tradition
is being lost, pushed aside by rampant modern technology.
Tinkersticks fans, did you shell out in the region of 20 quid to see
them? They're coming here, but it strikes me as a bit bloody steep.
Also a tad pricey is The Sugar Hill Records Story or is it Sugarhill?
It features someone called Waterbed Kev. Is there something we don't
know, DJ FatSlug? Eh?
Thailand is the world's largest exporter of frozen prawns.
Peter
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From: Tigerxdare at xxx.com (Tigerxdare at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:54:42 EDT
Subject: Sinister: cheetos will be the death of me
Message-ID: <19f9c023.252e0e32@aol.com>
well im hoping that this email will work but for some reason when i try to
post to sinister lately it doesnt, so i am just going to keep my fingers
crossed. i am at home today and have left the house once since monday, that
is sort of sad. all i want is to go get some coffee, rent a movie and get
takeout chinese, but without a car i am confined to eating kraft macaroni and
cheese and the mini bags of cheetos i found. ugh cheese. prove that you can
have too much of a good thing. its 11 am and there and absolutely no good
talk shows on, now i have to find a way to keep myself entertained until
noon. well there is that paper i could write for english. nah...i am feeling
better today than i have felt the rest of the week, hopefully i will be
completely non-sick by monday! woohoo! alright thats it.
xoxo,
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From peter.ramsdale at xxx.com Thu Oct 7 15:55:56 1999
From: peter.ramsdale at xxx.com (Pete Ramsdale)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 15:55:56 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Spot the Acid Casualty
References: <01bf10b6$d9e4b540$LocalHost@itjfvkli>
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OK, so I guess you'll all know what the link is between addled
acid-heads and One Flew Over The Cuckoo's nest, but with so much talk
of literary gubbins on the list at the minute, and with the eminent
surfacing of L.L.L.L. (Laura Llew's Literary List), I thought I'd
stick my heavily unwanted oar in. The author of One Flew etc., etc.,
Ken Kesey, was a pivotal point in the rise of acid in the sixties
(Hopkins, shut yer eyes, man. This is about hippies). Along with his
group of Merry Pranksters, they formed the part of the acid movement
that took Leary's educational drugs study ethic and turned it
completely on it's head. These people existed to get completely corked
off their respective gourds and be as up-front and loud about it as
they could. They eventually formed what would go on as a profit-making
venture way after the prankster movement started to dissolve; Acid
Tests. Large gatherings of people who turned up at certain locations
and got utterly f***ed on L.S.D. whilst listening to the Grateful Dead
and watching trippy light shows. In short, it was a bit like my house
on a Saturday night.* Which brings me to my literary point, and yes,
if you were starting to wonder, I have got one. If you are at all
interested in the above, (Ken Kesey and the pranksters, that is, not
my house on a saturday night), then I would recommend that you buy and
read "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test" by Tom Wolfe. It's a quite
riveting, often enlightening read about Kesey and the Pranksters and
the feelings and experiences they went through. It's also written like
Wolfe himself was on acid when he authored it - styles therein have
been nicked more than once, most notably by Irvine Welsh.
Anyway, onto matters bee and essy. Hurrah.
I left the house this morning whistling Expectations in a manner that,
well, frankly only I can, and noticed that there was a huge bird sat
on the chimney of a house across the road that seemed to be cawing
roughly in time with my disastrous whistles. Anyway, in a bid to test
the theory that our feathered friends are partial to a bit of Belle
and Sebastian now and again, I stopped whistling. I am nigh on
delerious to report that it stopped as well. When I started again, so
did the bird. After shitting myself rigid for a couple of minutes
thinking that this was the Poetry Parrot, and I would have to recite
the entirety of "Macavity the Mystery Cat" to the list, I realised
that parrots are brightly coloured and this 'ere bird was black. All
over. I reckon it was a crow. Well, either that or the Pottery
Pterodactyl. Anyway, I think I have proved conclusively that either:
a) Birds love B&S, or
b) my whistling sounds like the mating call of your common-or-garden
crow.
Unfortunately, I know which my money is on.
To finish up, Claire said:
> To the man whose name means c***, do not worry this term was highly
> acceptable in the 14th century as a term for the fanny. In 1811 however it
> was a nasty name for a nasty thing. Sorry.
On this side of the pond, it still is a highly acceptable term for the
fanny. Or it is round my neck of the woods, anyhow.
Hasta la fister,
lol p xx.
*This is a lie. My house on a saturday night is totally empty. I'm
always down the pub.
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From mjmo2 at xxx.uk Thu Oct 7 16:55:20 1999
From: mjmo2 at xxx.uk (M.J.M. Omond)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:55:20 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: it's a scary scary place...
Message-ID:
well, chaps, i'm here now. and it's not nice at all. well, that's a fib,
the people are lovely, and they're all really friendly and kind and fun to
be with, and they cook me supper, but... the work is an absolute bastard.
ok, i'm reading english, so i'd expect a bit of english work, but TWO
THOUSAND WORDS OF A PHILOSOPHICAL ESSAY BY PROUST to translate into
english... now that seems a bit fierce.
anyway, i'm back on sinister, so i should be getting fun stuff from you to
cheer up my days. god, it's such hard work here... maybe i should have
gone to, i dunno, croydon college to read kite flying and makeup
management.
anyway, i haven't really got much else to say. people at cambridge must
drink shitloads - i was boogying on down at the 70s/80s night last night,
and i was called 'the man' several times. and ANYONE who has ever seen me
dance knows that i'm very much not the man. in fact, i'm about as much
'the man' as isobel is. wasn't there all that discussion on the list a
while ago about how 'the shit' means not shit in the states? so maybe all
the students here are american, and so that's why...
fuck, this doesn't make any sense, and i need to read dryden's essays...
whatever anyone tells you, english students ARE NOT slackers - it's still
freshers week, and we're all dying of exhaustion...
anyway, enough of all this bullshit. the person i care about most on the
list has already had to suffer it once today...
i'm off. hopefully the work'll quieten down in a bit, and then i'll be
able to be apposite and amusing again,
love to all (and especially to the girl whose e-mail address i've left in
my room (a way away), but i've been thinking of you not stop since we
talked, and i haven't been able to work...)
Marcus XXX
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From the_gibber at xxx.com Thu Oct 7 17:50:03 1999
From: the_gibber at xxx.com (Ian McKinney)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 17:50:03 BST
Subject: Sinister: bright copper kettles, warm woolen mittens
Message-ID: <19991007165003.40601.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hi folks,
I haven't posted in a while being so busy settling back into college life
and all but, er.. , I can't think how to end this sentence. urngh. Anyhoo, I
must share with you all the absolute sense of frenzied joy I experienced
last saturday night. I went to see ASIAN DUB FOUNDATION (they deserve
capitals) and it was quite possibly the best show I've ever seen. I know
that their jungle-thrash mayhem is probably the furthest you could possibly
get from B&S, but it nevertheless has a unique appeal. Once again I bumped
into list-lurker Tim McGregor, but was too smashed to have a proper
conversation. My companion Barbara sadly got a bit carried away on the gin,
went completely berserk and was nearly ejected from the venue for pulling
over one of the monitors and knocking people over. For the record, I don't
condone that manner of behaviour in any way, and I took it upon myself to
administer a stern talking-to the following day.
I was delighted last week when my Isobel With Fox t-shirt and b&s badges
arrived. I still haven't decided where to attach the badges. To the lapel of
my leather jacket? To my satchel? My eyelids? My nipples? Anyway I'm all
excited cause I'm going to wear the t-shirt out tonight for the first time.
I will act as a magnet for all the b&s fans in the place. We will gravitate
in a dark corner and plot conspiracies.
Finally, why don't more of you use the sinister irc channel? It's
tremendous fun when there's a good crowd in, but usually there's only 2 or 3
people there. I drop in most days, there is a small contingent of regulars
but I say the more the merrier.
That is all. Until next time, take care of yourselves, and each other.
Yours etc.,
Ian (aka gib)
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From macarthur at xxx.com Thu Oct 7 18:34:54 1999
From: macarthur at xxx.com (Graham MacArthur)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 18:34:54 +0100
Subject: Sinister: All the bright young things are talking
Message-ID:
hello peeps,
babychris said:
> rude thing to say if you ask me. Maybe that's what
> fame and popularity did to her... :)
Well, I have to say chris, it's getting beyond a joke these days. I went
out to buy this week's TV Quick last night and there was a gaggle of
cardi-wearing indie boys shuffling around on my doorstep. They didn't say
hello or anything, just looked at their feet, and made small muttering
noises under their breath. I was spying on them from my window a few
minutes before - they were opening their flasks of weak lemon drink, but
kept getting their specs steamed up which gets them all flustered.
Last night I was woken up by the sound of cats having sex in my back garden
(again) so I slipped on my fluffy mules and tottered over to the window to
have a look - there was a boy standing on the patio with soot all over his
face. He cried "maam, maam, I've swept your chimmney, now could I request
the honour of a kiss?". I shouted "Not on your nelly, you dirty ned!" and
he ran off into the night, his ragged clothes flying about his bare feet.
In the morning I found a card on my doorstep. It said 'Chris Junior
sweeping services' in a smokey smudged scrawl.
I'm taking the mickey. You knew that, didn't you?
I'm now getting a job in a place called Barney's grill. Barney owns the
joint, though I havent had the honour of meeting him yet. Greasy Caff tales
to follow! No waitrose brown padded guillets for me, oh no, *I* get to wear
a little red sailor (as in, looks like the ones you make out of paper) hat
and pinny, and take orders off all the colourful types. Just give me the
wink, and I'll make your day. Chips-wise.
It's my birthday tommorow, so I looked at my cake today, sneaked a peak
while my mum was outside having a fag. It's really naff. I'm getting one of
those clever cameras, that has it's own brain for my present. I hope it has
artificial intelligence, and starts writing country and western songs when
I leave it turned on.
right. have to go and spend hours getting ready to be fashionably late. I'm
wearing my swanky pants! Those townies better watch their step, I'm wearing
spike heels and I feel like a dancin'...
Erica
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From grey7 at xxx.net Thu Oct 7 20:15:30 1999
From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:15:30 -0400
Subject: Sinister: I'm going to hell because of Belle and Sebastian
Message-ID: <000d01bf10f8$52af0980$56381fce@default>
To Hell and Back
What a week, to start it off I was walking past Wells Hall on Campus humming
"If you're Feeling Sinister" to myself when a young man pressed a leaflet
into my hand and told me in a sad, yet accusatory tone that I was going to
hell. It took me a moment to realize that he was not telling me this because
I was whistling a B&S song but because he was part of the family of
evangelists that camps outside Wells and passes out leaflets and shouts at
people that they're going to hell. So I'm going to hell and I don't have a
thing to wear, does anyone know if they have a post office in gehenna? I'll
drop you all some lovely postcards from my trip.
Hippies revisited
Yesterday as I was holding the door open for two A&F wearing gents at
the mall one of them glanced at my hooded knit black and tan baja pull-over
and sniffed,"so all that hippie shits coming back again". I have yet to
figure out how my pull over in any way is considered *hippie shit*
Breast milk
In my developmental psych class the prof spent an hour and a half
discussing breast milk. Yes, it was as exciting as it sounds and I really
want a tall cold glass of milk and I'm not sure if that's a healthy
psychological reaction.
But after all that I get home, check the old email and what do I find!?!
>***Laura Llew's List Member of the Week***
>
>That member who I've never had any contact with but I think is just the
>tops.... Randomness Really.... anyway, hush hush... It Is
>
>James Gilmer......
*scoffs his pennyloafers and with a shy grin tugs his forelock (that's
forelock, as in my strand of hair hanging on my forehead you sinister,
sinister people)*
Gosh, I don't know what to say really. It's an honor just to be
nominated. I would like to thank my momma and elvis though :-)
It's suddenly a much , much nicer day despite the fact I have to go to
work so I can take classes and learn all about breast milk. I hope all you
sinister people have a nice day now.- Jim
"We're all out there somewhere, waiting to happen"- Jeff Noon
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From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Thu Oct 7 21:02:00 1999
From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE DICKIE)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 13:02:00 PDT
Subject: Sinister: FEEL FREE TO POST SOMETHING RELEVANT THOUGH.
Message-ID: <19991007200200.40026.qmail@hotmail.com>
THANKS MISS
WOODLAWN
I THINK I'LL READ A BOOK
BUT WHICH BOOK????
MMMMMMMMMM
I'LL FIND ONE
HOW ABOUT THAT LOOPER BOOK
OHHHHH HOW RELEVANT OF ME
LOVE
AND TEST TUBE BABIES
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From colinboy21 at xxx.com Thu Oct 7 22:35:20 1999
From: colinboy21 at xxx.com (colin thornton)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 14:35:20 PDT
Subject: Sinister: I was made to love magic...
Message-ID: <19991007213521.10251.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hello everyone,
I've been sucked into your world from a small, pink moon orbiting in the
distance (The Nick Drake mailing list-- Place-to-be). My discovery of B&S
was accidental, but they exploded into my world with other artists unknown
to me: Beth Orton, Wilco, and Jeff Buckley, whom are all probably well
known to my new favorite group of people. You can imagine my suprise when
the "beautiful-music" dominoes started falling. I'm struggling to keep up
with the old and new of REAL pop music that doesn't sell-out.
The event that brought me to this list was a package that was sent to me by
a nice British gentleman on the Drake list. He sent me a free PAL copy of
the B&S MTV Alternative Nation video special. I waited with this coded
video for months until I could finally transfer it to NTSC, and now I can't
stop watching it. I don't know why the band has to be so damned secretive
(probably more so to Americans), but to actually see them be silly and have
fun (and quasi-live) makes me so happy. My favorite video is Lazy Line
Painter Jane; I can't believe that LLPJ is not a favorite song by most of
the list. I'm also enamored with Isobel, who is my favorite member of the
band. I'm a bit of a classic and childlike romantic, so Gentle Waves is a
new favorite of mine (perfect for rainy days and children).
I'm from Kentucky, and I'm a bit of a Belle & Sebastian loner/disciple. I
have converted a few listeners at my university, and I discovered a few fans
besides me. Being a fan isn't easy in America; afterall, the only things I
have to appreciate are the music and the videos (and this list), which is a
bit more than Nick Drake has to offer.
I was wondering if the Belle and Sebastian lifestyle is big enough in Europe
and other places to cause a cultural backlash? I've noticed on certain
negative amazon.com B&S reviews that there are a few jerks, whom intend on
crushing fragile B&S fans. How big is our sub-culture? I'm just curuious,
since most people here are clueless toward any indie music (as was I).
Thanks,
Colin St. Clair
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From steven.kado at xxx.ca Thu Oct 7 13:18:24 1999
From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 08:18:24 -0400
Subject: Sinister: I was made to love magic...
References: <19991007213521.10251.qmail@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <37FC8F90.8EF29007@utoronto.ca>
colin thornton wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
hello and welcome aboard matey! arrrrrrr!
> I was wondering if the Belle and Sebastian lifestyle is big enough in Europe
> and other places to cause a cultural backlash? I've noticed on certain
> negative amazon.com B&S reviews that there are a few jerks, whom intend on
> crushing fragile B&S fans. How big is our sub-culture? I'm just curuious,
> since most people here are clueless toward any indie music (as was I).
i was discussing a similar thing not too long ago with alex of penguin
records here in toronto. he guessed that the B&s backlash would come
shortly after the Godspeed you Black Emperor! backlash and he said that
would happen after the concert in early september. He was wrong about
godspeed... and so far B&S seem to be going fairly strong. However, its
not as if alex is some sort of buffoon....far from it, he is a genius
and our conversation about various pop backlashes relied heavily on many
interesting examples from the past ie the terrifying tortoise backlash
that completely crippled the wonderful sam prekop solo record earlier
this year. so yes, you need only go so far as your local collection of
'cool' indie kids to see if theres a belle and sebastian backlash on in
your neighborhood.
gee, maybe its just my limited social circle but everything in toronto
seems to tie back into penguin records. most of my male friends have a
crush on the lass known only as 'the penguin records girl' and are
considering holding some kind of manly fighting contest to determine
which out of them is fit to attempt to woo her. also, alex let me hear
the new Make Up lp before it comes out later this month and boy are we
all in for a treat!
I AM PENTAGON!
sk
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From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Fri Oct 8 04:23:59 1999
From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (B.E. Hamilton)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 23:23:59 -0400
Subject: Sinister: for all gybe! fans with cd burners...
Message-ID: <000701bf113c$90b42be0$44711198@wfu.edu>
well, the subject line says it all...
i have a really simply request.
ok i have over an hour of new, that's right, new godspeed you black emperor
mp3s (ugh) and i think it'd be dandy to have them on a cd.
but i have no cd burner, and i have no tape player in my car, so it'd be
kinda worthless, so if anyone has a cd burner and would like to do me the
biggest favor ever (and if you have icq or aol IM so you can get these
files) and make a cd, as in just putting tracks back to back (there are 6 of
them i think) then please email me, i'll repay this kind soul in whatever
way he/she wishes. and of course, they can grab a copy for themselves, if
it floats their boat.
well, just a request, someone, anyone?
love
blake xx
the nerdy shy eyed pacifist
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From zutroy at xxx.org Fri Oct 8 04:47:38 1999
From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 23:47:38 -0400
Subject: Sinister: i don't love anyone
Message-ID:
so i rediscovered my favorite form of escapism today: hiding behind my
eyeglasses. see, i didn't wear my glasses much for the past few weeks
because i didn't like them very much. they weren't very interesting or even
very flattering, and they were too tight to wear all the time. sure, they
didn't fall off my face when i read, which was nice, but too much and they
hurt.
anyway, yesterday i went shopping with the oh-so-sexy miss teri zuckerman
(poor thing is suffering from an upper respiratory viral infection, so
everyone hope for her better health) and we went to target (swanky, i
know). anyway, i found a pair of cute little tortoise shell frames that i
liked an awful lot for under $100 at the appropriately-named target optical
center.
so today i come back from an unsucessful lab trying to do time-lapse
videography of exodermal cells detaching from sea urchin embryos as a
result of degradation of the hyeline layer by hyeline extraction medium.
anyway, to make a long story short nothing happened. so i was disappointed
and hungry and went home. when i got home i found a joyeous message on my
answering machine from the fabulous folks at target telling me my new
glasses were ready. so i grabbed my friend steve (who was looking for a toy
for a lady-friend) we jumped in his car and drove to target where i got my
new glasses.
the point of this whole story is that since i put them on some 7 hours ago
i remembered how easy it is to distance myself from the rest of the world
simply by adding a layer of plastic lenses. everything looks a little more
crisp and a little less 3-dimensional, and things tend to warp at the
corners, and it seems like i'm watching my life on television, like it's
not really happening.
i first discovered this at the end of this past summer when jon and i were
breaking up. i went for several weeks only taking my glasses off to sleep,
even if i didn't need them and my head hurt and my eyes were tired. i
didn't want to deal with the outside world, so i hid behind them.
and since jon and i got in a fight the other day about our stupid
relationship (which i've given up on, btw), these glasses provide such
pleasant respite from the real world. *sigh*
and the only song i can listen to without feeling depressed is "i don't
love anyone," even though it's not really true.
oh, and i'm awful sad that i've never been voted list crush, not even been
suggested for the list of folks to vote for. :(
so if any of you are harboring secret crushes on me, please let it be known
and suggest my name or something, because i've been on this list for like a
year and a half and nobody's voted for me. there's pictures of me on the
sinsiter site, even. i'm not *that* funny-looking, am i?
i'll stop whining now.
-kerry
"if acquired characteristics can not be passed on . . . man lives and
suffers in vain. whatever he might have acquired in the course of a
lifetime dies with him."
-paul kannmerer -- in defence of lamarck
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From Catspaw1 at xxx.com Fri Oct 8 05:22:09 1999
From: Catspaw1 at xxx.com (Catspaw1 at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 00:22:09 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Flatlands, U.S.A.
Message-ID: <0.6673eae6.252ecb71@aol.com>
Talk of pubs and city streets gets me down, as I have to climb in my car and
drive twenty minutes to find both together at the same time (they exist on
select corners in downtown KC). It's the kind of thing I do on rainy,
overcast evenings, shoving just that particular B&S CD into the stereo,
punching up just that particular track that works just so on rainy evenings
(works best with Brilliant Career and perhaps The State I Am In, although you
never know). B&S is mood music of the highest order, and that's my passion.
A rainy night means Nick Drake, Van Morrison (Astral Weeks, natch), Miles
Davis, Richard Davies, Jeff (or Tim) Buckley, Sinatra, whatever ... and some
nugget from B&S.
So I've sprained my ankle playing basketball, can't seem to get my brains
together enough to write some things that must be written, and I have friends
crashing this weekend, traveling to a football game and raising havoc at a
dandy bar (once a gay haunt, but sadly no longer) called the Peanut.
So I'm scanning the darkening skies for signs of rain, Sinister sounds
clutched to my breast.
B Clay
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From Mark at xxx.com Fri Oct 8 09:55:48 1999
From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 09:55:48 +0100
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2297F27D@SERVER1>
I hope this doesn't upset Pete R, whose posts are universally top class, but
I just needed to say one thing that I've been thinking ever since I first
set eyes on the name "the merry pranksters". What a grade A cunt that Ken
Kesey must be! And Pete's letter just made me spit bile - his account of
Kesey's experiments is all the evidence I need for the introduction of
compulsory lobotomies for anyone who thinks any thoughts they have while
tripping are worth foisting on anyone else. Very big and clever you sad old
men.
So, yay, another day's worth listening to the same tedious house mediocrity
on a 15 minute loop that is Kiss FM. Jesus, why? I would have thought that
such exposure would have left maybe one or two songs ingrained in my head
that I found myself tempted to buy next time I'm in HMV, but no. Nothing.
Not even a "Music Sounds Better with You" (okay, they do play that
sometimes, but it's hardly new and anyway, I've already got it). Why? Though
I suppose they do play TLC sometimes. Which reminds me, can anyone recommend
a Missy Elliot record for me to get, as I heard something she did a couple
of months ago and loved it, but I haven't a clue what it was. It was quite
dark and funky, that's all I can remember.
Anyone catch the MOBO awards last night? Hmm. I can feel all kinds of white
music Vs black music things bubbling up in my subconscious, but we've been
there before, so moving swiftly on...
The B&S backlash. My take on things is that we're teetering on the edge of
non-credibility. Every week, it seems, we're lampooned in the NME, which is
kind of sweet, but we haven't featured in their "what's on our stereo" bit
for ages. But then the groop haven't released any new songs for ages. Most
people still haven't heard of them, and the impact of the Brits is no more
than a background hum these days. But at the same time they're no longer a
discovery to most. The most important thing is that neither the band nor the
fans are much affected by what others think of them anyway, so we'll be
alright. We already are.
Not sure why I'm so erratic today. Probably cos I'm at work and don't want
to be. My boss, after a few weeks of being friendly and reasonable, went
arsey yesterday and I just can't be bothered. Perhaps this is a hint that I
should work rather than gripe to the Sinister List. Yes, that's what I'll
do.
To the left side,
To the right side,
Mark xxx
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From: jordi-tv at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano i Vilar)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 08:27:33 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Were the knights who say NI ! NI NI NI NI NI NI.......
Message-ID: <19991008112733.HM.00000000001iFUt@mixmail.com>
And also Aidan Moffat is. Maybe.
The last issue of the spanish magazine Rock de Lux features an interview with Aidan Moffat, and shows some interesting
parts. I don�t have the magazine here with me, but I think that it goes this way:
The interview is coming to it�s end. And I haven�t asked about Belle and Sebastian. "You shouldn�t", says Aidan. B&S
and Arab Strap are from the same region, and various members of B&S have collaborated on Arab Strap�s albums. But
in fact, B&S latest album, "the boy with the arab strap", contains what seems a clear attack to Aidan "You�re constantly
updating your hit parade of your ten biggest wanks". "The only think that I can say is that the drummer is a nice guy".
Laughs.
Well, I�m willing to know if anyone can tell me how can we have this situation a year after half B&S played on "Philophobia".
It doesn�t look really good.
I�m going out for the next three days. I�m really excited about it, but I won�t be able to check my mails.
==================================================
Jordiet Sinistre - jordi at belleandsebastian.org (for personal answers use this adress)
==================================================
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From martin at xxx.uk Fri Oct 8 12:57:06 1999
From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 12:57:06 +0100
Subject: Sinister: The gas man and the inflatable cod
Message-ID: <62WefCASwd$3EwIZ@send.demon.co.uk>
Dear all,
I'm afraid I bring bad news to all those admirers and followers of Steve
the inflatable fish. He is missing presumed dead after having several
drinks and then being passed round the dancefloor, a bit like Owen Meany
in Sunday school, of a small club in trendy Fulham. Rumours of an
inflatable Crimewatch special, as of yet, are unfounded. The Wake is
presently being delayed in case his deflated remains are found. The
saddest part of it all is that I never got the chance to tell him that I
loved him really.
Anyway, at the absence of anything constructive to say and not wishing
to extend the heated Richard Stilgoe debate to the highlights of the
career of the amusingly spectacled Cristopher Biggins I shall just
continue pointlessly and say: I think Mr Casarotto's spiel on Mr Ken
Kesey was more than a bit harsh
>What a grade A cunt that Ken
>Kesey must be! And Pete's letter just made me spit bile - his account
of
>Kesey's experiments is all the evidence I need for the introduction of
>compulsory lobotomies for anyone who thinks any thoughts they have
while
>tripping are worth foisting on anyone else. Very big and clever you sad
old
>men.
Wasn't Kesey was paid by the American government to take LSD? As they
had no idea what effect it had. He then, being of an open mind, began
experimenting with it and passing it on to all his mates. LSD had no
history at this point, so they weren't to know that it would be
responsible for a load of hippies walking round going "Wow man!". So in
conclusion everything is the fault of the American government, quelle
surprise, and it is probably they who are the "grade A cunt"'s.
Aren't gassy men a pain? The bloke came to replace the pump on my
central heating yesterday and then in the evening I get water coming
through the kitchen. Apparently he damaged the gas cylinder making it
leak, so they drained that and now have to replace to it. Consequently I
have no hot water and the only thing heated in my abode was the
conversation I had with the gas board to get it fixed quickly. What a
bunch of "grade A cunt"'s they are (I can use this nasty word all the
time now and just say I'm quoting that foul mouthed fouler Casarotto).
Anyway can I start a new list of recommended domestic heating service
providers? Go electric kids you won't regret it.
Time to conclude this tedium as there's a pint with my name on it.
Te ra,
Martin
ear confection recordings
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From rebeckas at xxx.com Fri Oct 8 14:11:20 1999
From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 06:11:20 PDT
Subject: Sinister: Fwd: THE "NEW BLOW UP"
Message-ID: <19991008131121.99379.qmail@hotmail.com>
----Original Message Follows----
From: "CHRIS KING"
Reply-To: "CHRIS KING"
To: "Yoni Neeman" , ,"wisemen"
,,"Vanessa
Cotton" ,, "Tracey
Eastwood" ,,
,,
,,
,"Tim Perry" ,
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From hewits at xxx.uk Fri Oct 8 13:55:22 1999
From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:55:22 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Stilgoe: Latest update
Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB6970C360@park_ex>
This just in:
Following extensive research involving numerous friends of mine of a
"certain age" (ie about the same as me) the following info has come to
light. As well as "Stillgoes On", there was also "Finders Keepers" which
was the one I was thinking of, involving battleships/noughts & crosses.
Hopefully this can end the gnashing of teeth and wailing that has no doubt
been keeping you awake at night :)
for those of you unaware of Mr Stilgoe there is a piccie of him here (with
him dressed as High Sherrif of Surrey, no less):
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/sboreham/surrey2000/Sherrif.htm
and what a "grade A cunt" he looks.
ah, the joys of the information super-skiveway.
xoxo
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From pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk Fri Oct 8 14:15:31 1999
From: pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk (Pamela Hutchinson)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 14:15:31 +0100
Subject: Sinister: wearing badges is not enough
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From rebeckas at xxx.com Fri Oct 8 14:36:14 1999
From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 06:36:14 PDT
Subject: Sinister: DA DOO RON RON - WED 20th OCTOBER - GUEST DJ's BEANS from BELLE & SEBASTIAN &
ANDREW (Divine Club - Glasgow)
Message-ID: <19991008133615.71284.qmail@hotmail.com>
Oki this was the message i was trying to send..
sorry for making it wrong
thete u go people,
hugs becky
http://travel.to/blondie
DA DOO RON RON - NEXT DATE - WED 20th OCTOBER - GUEST DJ's - BEANS GEDDES
(BELLE & SEBASTIAN) & ANDREW (Glasgow club - DIVINE)
After September's sold-out Da Doo Ron Ron club night when MARK LAMARR was
the special guest DJ, Da Doo Ron Ron returns on Wed 20th October for another
sashay through the 60's girl group and femme soul scene. Guest DJ's are
BEANS GEDDES from Brit-scooping, Scots popsters BELLE & SEBASTIAN and ANDREW
B & S tour DJ and regular disc-spinner at hip Glasgow club DIVINE.
WEDNESDAY 20th OCTOBER
DA DOO RON RON @ PO NA NA - 259, UPPER STREET, ISLINGTON, HIGHBURY CORNER,
LONDON N.1 (Venue Tel:-0171-359-6191) Directly adjacent to Highbury &
Islington tube station, below the FAMOUS COCK TAVERN hostelry
9.00 PM - 2.00AM
�3 with a flyer / �5 without
Regular DJ�s Chris & Declan PLUS special guest DJ SAID LIQUIDATOR
(SPEARMINT) spin (female only) tunes courtesy of gargantuan girl group
classics, Detroit dollies, Northern nightingales, Motown minxes, searing
soul sirens and playful popstrels:-RONETTES, SHANGRI-LA�S, FLIRTATIONS,
CHIFFONS, VELVELETTES, MARVELETTES, VANDELLAS, MAXINE BROWN, DUSTY
SPRINGFIELD, DARLENE LOVE, PETULA CLARK, JULIE LONDON, NANCY SINATRA, LESLEY
GORE, SUPREMES, CRYSTALS, SHIRELLES, COOKIES, CHANTELS, BRENDA HOLLOWAY, KIM
WESTON, P. P. ARNOLD ET AL...
For further information please contact DDRR promoter and organiser Chris
King on TEL:-0181-342-9243 E-mail:-c.king at easynet.co.uk
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From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 09:11:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: all my friends are on their holidays
Message-ID: <19991008161102.20914.rocketmail@web117.yahoomail.com>
oh, my darlings...
which one of you did it? or rather, which two? who
could have voted for me on the listcrush? Twice???
well now i'm going to get a big head about it, and i'm
going to go as far as to say that honey has put my pic
on the pic-page, and you can go find me and add or
retract yr vote, as the case may be.
oh dears -- i had such grand plans for this weekend.
it is our fall break from school, and i had 5 glorious
days of traipsing about nyc planned. but, due to a
few financial bumps, i'll be spending my break in the
suburbs with my family, probably watching sitcoms and
trying desperately to find anything vegan in our
kitchen.
*** laurentigerxdare -- i hope you are better! and
oh, i heard a track of the secret stars yesterday,
called "eyelashes," and it is A M A Z I N G .... i
need more of them....
well, keeping me company over my pathetic break will
be my new isobel&fox t-shirt and assorted badges. you
know, i'm not a big fan of the gentle waves, but the
occaisional isobel song in the context of struan songs
is nice. but i must add that part of the reason i
love b&s so much is struan's voice. so i'm in the
camp of "please let there be exclusively stuart m.
songs on the next album!" is that wrong?
oh, one more thing: i'm so happy to hear (read)
everyone giving everyone else Massive Props, and i
just wanted to say that, the other day, i used the
phrase "take the piss" in everyday conversation
without realizing it, and i got funny looks. oops.
hey you glasgow listees! take care of our mandy
(amandaXihhzineX) who is there Right Now. ja?
xoxo,
marie
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From dunca_chap at xxx.com Fri Oct 8 17:56:05 1999
From: dunca_chap at xxx.com (Adam Chapman)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 16:56:05 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Ducks.
Message-ID: <19991008165605.87761.qmail@hotmail.com>
Sorry, I've got ducks on the brain at the moment, its the problem of
having a bloody great lake and large piles of moldy bread in easy walking
distance of an afternoon. So, hows life and A levels, these both seem along
way off right now, and i've only been here 2.5 weeks, the works already
catching up, and being avoided. I'm going to see 'The Texus Chainsaw
Massacre' tonight for some peculiar reason. A friend of mine says shes going
to take a cushion to hide behind which as makes it an absolute must see for
that very reason, as they strike me as the least likely person to even
consider seeing it; or is that just me?
Has the Belle and Sebastian Backlash started yet? Only in the *Melody*
maker thus far i think, and amoungst those who find the Stereophonics
songwriting too deep for them [though they probably haven't heard of B+S
come to think of it]. Have you noticed how in the personal columns of the
music press how many people try to use B+S to project an image? Its rapidly
becoming a cliche [sorry, can't do the accent over the 'e'], along with the
*I'm-a-manics-fan-who-writes-crap-poetry and has a glitter fixation*, and
the *Me-big-beat-'fatboy'-loser*, you now get the *I'm-soft-and-fluffy and
like Belle and Sebastian* [therefore implying that they're much the same
thing, I merely suggest that this is not the case...].
I'm off to further ingratiate myself with the beer swilling masses,adieu.
Adam
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From mhintz at xxx.edu Fri Oct 8 18:36:01 1999
From: mhintz at xxx.edu (Matthew Hintz)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:36:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinister: Isobel was taken by sqirrels
Message-ID:
Glasgow, SCOTLAND--Cellist and singer for the popular group Belle and
Sebastan has been missing since earlier in the week. Her absence would
have been reported earlier, but friends thought she was 'in one of her
moods'.
After an investigation at her flat, there is no trace of her, save
for the babushka. Other evidence at the scene is a collection of twigs
and leaves strewn about the flat with signs of a struggle. Her stuffed
animals may have been eye witnesses, but are staying strangely silent.
One source says that a possible motive may have been the forest
creatures anger over her depiction of them on her solo album as the Gentle
Waves. 'It's not so sweet as she puts it in her songs; it's rough and
animals die. We want someone to tell animal life in a realistic light,'
says the source.
The investigation is continuing.
Stolen Kisses
http://stolenkisses.tripod.com
'We are reasonably young.'
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From pookie59 at xxx.com Fri Oct 8 20:35:43 1999
From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 12:35:43 PDT
Subject: Sinister: a little bit of you makes me a man
Message-ID: <19991008193543.85450.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hello list,
a quickie,if you please...
First of all,I know there are French listees on here.Can you help me please?
What about that lovely Julien Boelidieu whom my mails never sent to?
Anyways..I need to do a huge project on either France things or Quebec
things (but I dont want to do Quebec things) And as usual,I use the Sinister
list for my un-creativity.
Another french thing....my mother just told me normandy is very close to
england...how close? (I am a terrible geography person) and to what part of
england? Would one just take a ferry over to England,and is this cheap?
More french things! My friend just got back from Paris and she said everyone
is wearing leather there. The GAP predictions come true!So note to Stuart M:
Ditch those electric circus silver pants boy because its LEATHER now
Mister Christopher was seeking points on how to approach celeberties.I
definitley go for licentious groupie behaviour! I dont know about you
guys,but I always picture Chris with waist-length tresses of spun gold.I
would use to this to my advantage! Gather the hair in a ponytail and when it
comes time to meet the celebrity,undo the pony-tail and TOUSLE, TOUSLE,
TOUSLE! I have met some celeberties before.I met Brett Anderson at an A&W
(no joke) and I breathed heavily into his ear and he liked that.I also had
my picture taken with Bobby Rush,even though at the time I had no idea who
he was.I guess that made me a groupie-skank.Well,I smiled and put my arm
around him and then he moved on.So,every celebrity is different,you just
gotta know what buttons to push. Now what are belle and sebastians buttons?
This is the question.
Elizabeth,if Stuart wore a muzzle and lamp-shade thing around his neck for
me,I would be very impressed.
but TWO
>THOUSAND WORDS OF A PHILOSOPHICAL ESSAY BY PROUST to translate into
>english...
Whenever I hear the words "Proust" I automatically hear that Monty Python
song where you have to anaylze Proust in 1 minute or something... "Proust in
his first book wrote about,wrote about..."
I also think of that sketch where it is the German philosophers versus the
Greek ones in a soccer game. Ho ho ho!!!
a whole lotta lovin',
momma genevieve x
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From zutroy at xxx.org Fri Oct 8 20:51:33 1999
From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:51:33 -0400
Subject: Sinister: a note of thanks
Message-ID:
So i just thought i'd post to thank the anonymous stranger who sent me a
cute little post card. i would have saved you all a little time and
written him/her personally, but he/she sent it with a fake address. so
thank you, mysterious stranger, it did indeed put a smile on my face.
and thank you to whomever it was that suggested my name on the list crush
site, even if it was only to get me to shut up about it (ha! your plan
didn't work! i'm still talking about it!).
okay. i hope honey doesn't yell at me about sending such a short and
belleandsebastianless post.
-kerry
"sustained by special providence, i am fighting for dear life against that
demonic rice-cake."
-Soseki Natsume, _i am a cat_
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From jasonandreas at xxx.net Fri Oct 8 20:47:34 1999
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 20:47:34 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Help a lost listee..
Message-ID: <008901bf11c5$f81ddf40$5a123c3e@default>
Does anyone on the list live in Mosspark, Glasgow?
If so, could you please mail me at jasonandreas at breathemail.net
This isn't for me, but a newly arrived in Glasgow listee, she's lost and
scared with no-one except me to turn to.... and I've not got a life, so I'm
throwing open the appeal doors.
(sorry for blatantly abusing the list, Paul, but this is a good cause, as
I'm the only person she knows in the whole of Glasgow...)
-- Jason Andreas
-- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people
ICQ: 45821217
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From untitled at xxx.com Sat Oct 9 00:26:34 1999
From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 19:26:34 -0400
Subject: Sinister: I used to know someone who was babysat by Gary Glitter
Message-ID: <199910081926_MC2-8839-9E60@compuserve.com>
Gay Jeremy is still waiting out side in the rain. He's been doing shifts
with Stan from The Housemartins. Stan by day, Jeremy by night. We all
thought that Jeremy and his pin prick eyes would search the night sky
better than Stan and his NHS spectacles. Besides, Stan's glasses have a
tint in them and can repel sunlight.
Well, I have fought long and hard to get to, wait for it, 194 in the list
crush. Quite popular then, no. I can't think what it is. I've changed my
pants, have a new hair cut (French Crop) and regulary wear deodorant. And,
in the hope that I will be noticed, even walk past the girls changing rooms
on the way to PSE, but that doesn't count in my favour. Some of the girls
have noticed the string attached to the handle and followed it back to my
house. They wrote things on my front door in paint that's really hard to
shift and they keep writing me rude letters, I don't mind that but I wish
that they'd post them the normal way.
Anyway, the main point for mailing. A few days ago, Wednesday to be exact,
not too far away from Ladbrook Grove, gulp, I purchased a copy of
Illunination by The Pastels. I've currently been looking for it's cover
for half an hour but that's besides the point. The thing is, and I know
it's list abuse but I've been to their site and all and I must confess I
thought they were late teens early twenties, only to discover they were on
their 28th album when The Smiths were starting out.
I would like to know as much as poss about them, The Pastels. TweeNet
wasn't it's usual help full self and their site was vauge. Oh, hang on, I
remember that Miss Cambell played something on Illunination, so I suppose
it's got something to do with B&S - you have to really want to beleave that
one though.
If any of you know anything it would be greatly apprieacited, fanks.
Rob
<<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>>
http://members.tripod.co.uk/wpwe
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Performance/4408
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From ian at xxx.uk Sat Oct 9 00:00:46 1999
From: ian at xxx.uk (ian)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 00:00:46 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Queen of Screech
Message-ID: <000001bf11e4$76b12600$0c66883e@default>
hello...
i'm not going to do a funny introduction today, i'm not in the mood..
pj miller and friend were discussing:
>>>Yoko Ono: Surely the Queen of Screech has appeared with one of the
Lennon
>brats at some time or other?
-Ah yes. Yoko's most recent albums, entitled "Rising" and "Rising
-Remixes" featured Wee Sean's group IMA, which must stand for
-something. I thought about buying them at the time, but thankfully I
-didn't bother in the end. The remix one has got a twenty or thirty
-minute thing tagged on the end. Correct me if I'm wrong.
right, mr miller, open wide.. your mouth that is...and stay still while i
get my trusty bar of soap..
it seems that it is one of those periodic sticking-up-for-yoko moments...
actually, i'm not going to engage in a heated debate on the quality of madam
ono's music, or defend her right to scream her way through an album if
that's what she wants to do (granted, not one of her most listenable
attempts) probably best to stick to specifics.. pj, if you like yoko then
these albums are well worth a listen. as with most of her excursions into
recording, there are some songs that work and some that don't but when she
does hit the nail on the head the results are amazing.
having said that, i've never played the thirty minute interactive piece at
the end of the mix album. there's a song that precedes it named "franklin
summer" where yoko makes noises for twenty minutes, and i've never really
got past that.
hmm...i'm not doing a very good job of sticking up for her am i? its very
late in the day and i should be out there drinking with the other boys and
girls instead of inside tapping away at my keyboard.
but while i'm here....owen said
-The
-thing is you can never really understand what I'm trying to say unless
-your me, and one thing you can never be is me. I can send you a postcard
-but you can't come to visit. If I could write better postcards then you
-might get a better view of where I am. It depresses me that I can't as
-being useless at expressing myself leads to the sort of misunderstanding
-that is documented above.
you know owen, i thought your postcard was wonderful. it had the sort of
design that i could sit and stare at for hours. perhaps you should keep
that analogy and use it the next time you meet mr murdoch...
rob:
_As far as the list crush goes I now refuse to recognise it's authority. I
deny it. I am a _fugitive from its dominion. See? Knackers to it.
right on, comrade....we don't need no popularity contest. we are sure
enough of ourselves and our own identities, and we don't require them to be
reified by a computerised poll...
sour grapes? me? of course not..
alasdair reveals excellent taste:
_Songs with speaking in them. I really like the end of Suede's 'Stay
_Together', in fact it's one of my favourite endings to a song because of
_the general chaos, which the speaking enhances
amen to that, brother (oh, sorry, i was momentarily possessed by the soul of
a gospel singer)....i especially like the whale noises at the end of the
extended version...
perhaps i should stop there. i've gone into "agreeing with people" mode and
that's usually a sign that my creativity's gone down the pub. i'll go and
stare at the wall for a bit instead
ian
"sort of like a gay dirty den, really"...apparently..
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From Tigerxdare at xxx.com Sat Oct 9 02:38:36 1999
From: Tigerxdare at xxx.com (Tigerxdare at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 21:38:36 EDT
Subject: Sinister: there you are, you're so demure.
Message-ID: <0.c72b6ff6.252ff69c@aol.com>
hello darlings,
well here i am, on a friday night, i just got home from watching the
kids, and ive had a more fun evening than i would have had if i would have
went out with any of my friends. i like kids. i mean sure sometimes they
arent fun, but for the most part i really love them and cant wait to have my
own kid some day. today when i went there, i was upset (am i ever not upset
these days?), and i started crying a little bit, so the little three year old
tried to comfort me, and he told me that he would beat up whoever made me
sad. =)...i have two days with no school and i am just going to stay in the
house and sleep and not talk to anyone. my friend called me today and the
last time i talked to him he was quite rude. today my dear sinisterees, i
have reached my breaking point. no more will i endure other people shite. i
don't deserve to be treated bad by anyone, and i refuse to converse with
anyone who wont treat me with anything but respect. so he called and said
whats up and i proceeded to tell him off and scream and it was liberating. i
am buying a new address book for all my telephone numbers and i am burning my
old one. i am only going to keep very few numbers. i dont even like most of
the people i associate with so the answer is to stop talking to everyone. i
will just meet new people but actually if i dont i really dont give a flying
fuck. i enjoy being alone and not having to deal with people and their
annoying little attitudes. today is the start of a new era, my dears.
xoxo,
lauren. p.s- i miss you LJ
and yes marie, you must buy that secret stars cd but i will still copy it for
you plus their other cd called geneologies.
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From kshank at xxx.net Fri Oct 8 23:20:24 1999
From: kshank at xxx.net (Ketan Shankardass)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 18:20:24 -0400
Subject: Sinister: goin' out to the Glasgow junglist massive
References: <199910081950.NAA17553@turtle.esosoft.net>
Message-ID: <37FE6E28.F620A8F7@interlynx.net>
with the sun being out and the trees changing colour, i must proclaim:
"it was a lovely day in south western ontario".
anyways, the following is a request that has nothing to do about b&s but alas...i am not a member of any Glaswegian listserve...i thought that this would be a good place to ask
instead...
i am seriously considering doing a Masters in public health at U of Glasgow next year and i was wondering if anyone out there has any experience or insight into the matter...please
respond to my email address and not the list...kshank at interlynx.net
good night...god bless...sweet dreams...tweety birds...
(i used to say that as fast as i could to every member of my family before bedtime when i was wee.)
ketan
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From lleweth at xxx.com Sat Oct 9 03:31:31 1999
From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 19:31:31 PDT
Subject: Sinister: I'll only buy a book for the way it looks
Message-ID: <19991009023132.36851.qmail@hotmail.com>
Welcome to LauraLand!
Please learn and follow the rules while in LauraLand. No running, no
yelling, no grumbling, no cutting in line, no jumping, no horseplay. That
means you. No breaking things and putting them back like nothing happened.
No sad faces, bad attitudes, introspective moments, irritation at the
mindless happiness of the masses, and no littering. Is that clear?
Our Main Attraction here is Laura Llew's Lovely Literary List of 1999.
http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/litlist.htm
(and you thought it was me. ha!) It was so named for egotistical purposes
more than anything else. The recommendations from this list was the work of
members of this lovely sinister list. Now, there was one suggestion from a
non-list member who thought that all of belle and sebastian songs sound
alike. But just as the anti-government psycho woodsman who I got stuck up in
the mountains of Utah said to me, "Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Even if its blatantly wrong."
Please take careful note of the lovely disclaimer at top. I am not held
personally accountable for any images/thoughts/ideas that are inflicted in
your minds because of these books. However, if you want to talk to me about
any of the books feel free to. I have a short synopsis of most of the books
(provided by those who recommended them) and have read quite a few of them.
It'll be like a second opinion of sorts.
I would like to thank everyone who participated and recommended their
favorite reads to me. I enjoyed putting together the list immensely and am
quite pleased that I had such a good response. I'm quite looking forward to
reading all of the suggestions (my new goal). As always, I am thankful that
Honey allows me to use this list to beef up my e-mail box and allow me to
use this list to compile my own. Very kind of our list mummy indeed. Blake
Hamilton was also very encouraging during the early stages of the list with
cheers and such. He makes a fabulous cheerleader. Though his legs in that
short skirt, leave something to be desired. Like more fabric. hehe. I would
especially like to show my utmost gratitude to:
**Laura Llew's MVP (Most Valuable Poster)**
For that list member whose patience, knowledge, and kindness that knows no
bounds. Who has helped tremedously with the list - graciously offering to
put the list up on the web. Their name should be at top of the list - not
mine. They did a TON of work on this list and has been incredibly patience
with my ignorance and my affinity of *tweaking*. Yes, I am eternally
thankful for the help of
........................Jan Imgrund...............................
I really can't even begin to express how much help he has been.
So, I'll stop trying to.
So, Wouldn't you like to get away?
Give yourself up to the allure of
Catcher In The Rye
The future's swathed in Stars and Stripes
Wouldn't you like to get away?
Kerouac's beckoning with open arms,
And open roads of eucalyptus
Westward Bound............
*Snapped Crackled and P!O!P!P!I!N!G!*
I've never met a bat I didn't like...
Laura Llew Who
(is still disappointed that no one thought to send her the following last
week: "Laura's feeling just ideal. Her Horoscope was nearly perfect.
She's thinking of something to do because she is the birthday girl." Fit
perfectly, eh?)
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From scilabs at xxx.com Fri Oct 8 03:45:24 1999
From: scilabs at xxx.com (Joss)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 03:45:24 +0100
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <000501bf1137$2cde41a0$a98491c2@default>
Firstly, I am drunk beyond sense.
The B&S DJ thing in Dublin is now delayed until the 19th of November. Here's
Ms Paula.(she of the booze)
aiight?
as joss so eloquently said, we are quite "tired".
to all who found me disappointlingly sober in london, i can truly say that i
am as pissed as rwo farts at this moment.
joss looks like my living room carpet tonight.
well, his jumper does, at least.
joss looooooooooves george michael.
im gonna send this b4 he sees it......
loves,
paulawaula. x x x .
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From ian at xxx.uk Sat Oct 9 12:25:57 1999
From: ian at xxx.uk (shut your maawf you dozy taaart)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:25:57 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Anyone can fall in love, that's the easy part, but keeping it going..
Message-ID: <000001bf1249$2edcd440$2a28883e@default>
in last week's episode
robert foster (who seems unhealthily concerned with people's willies)
if all goes to plan I could have me a poetry parrot, or that retched
dinosaur arse hole. I heard that he's trying to snuff the parrot out so
that he can be the new poetry hard man, a sort of gay Dirty Den.
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This week on Ianstenders....
"shut yawr mawf you dozy cawr.......I never lavd ya...I aalways lavd
Jan...She was miles classier than yaa'll evver be" Ian slaps Anita
Roddick....(should be Anita Dobson but we couldn't get her) around the chops
and storms out of the bar. Angie/Anita collapses into a heap on the floor
sobbing.
Close up of Ian's evil face, staring up at the streetlamps of Oaklands Road
and laughing... he mutters the words "stupid cawr..." to himself before
climbing into his car and driving off to see his mistress (who is, of
course, only masquerading under the name Jan and is really a seven foot Sumo
wrestler named Sid)
Back to Anita, crawling across the floor of the Queen Mick and sobbing
something incoherent about peppermint footwash..
stayed tuned for the next episode..
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Well, I'm trying...I'm even using capitals to dispell that tweeness and
enhance my new evil persona....
I must warn you sir, that if you insult my pterodactyl, you insult me, and I
am handy with a whip-and-chain..
Well, it seems the pottery pterodactyl was not a resounding success...oh my
poor ceramic baby...what have they done to you? nothing, except cast
aspersions on your sexuality? And I didn't even give you genitals? Well,
that's life kiddo. Sit and ponder the essential thanklessness of it all and
recite us a poem:
"A Doll's House"
A man sat staring at a doll's house
Hour after hour and more and more
He believed. He could see
In the kitchenette two personettes
And one of them was standing in the sink
And one lay on the floor.
The man stared more and more
The bed in the bathroom was neatly made up with a
Pink eiderdown neatly made up from a
Pink ribbon. But noone was in the bed
And noone was in the bathroom.
Only a horse
Was trying the door.
The man stared more and more.
Then softly the man went in,
Edged down
Past the creaky banisters, down
He crept
To the hall, hid nimbly
Behind a cow.
>From the sink: "My dear,
That tractor's on the roof again, I fear."
Sadly from the floor "These nights
It always seems to be there."
Then silence between
Personette A and Personette B
Now like a matchstick drumming a plastic thimble,
Now like the sea.
>From the sink; "How I wish, my dear,
That you and I could move house.
But these matters are not in our hands. Our directives
Come from above."
Said the floor: "How can we ever move house
When the house keeps moving, my love?"
A man sat staring at a doll's house
Hour after hour and more and more
He believed he could see
Perspectives of the terrorized world,
Delicate, as a new-tooled body,
Monstrous, mad as he.
Kit Wright.
Coo gently, my pottery friend, and think of new tales for us all.
Mr Foster, if you want my pterodactyl, you are welcome to borrow. Just
don't try and make it do anything unsavoury...
oh...one last thing.. megan said
>opposition will be listened to, but surely overcome, as the new order of
>sebastianites leads the procession into the next battlefield. join to us,
>we like thai elephants!
and for that, you get my list crush vote...whether you want it or not...
Dirty Ian
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From untitled at xxx.com Sat Oct 9 14:35:18 1999
From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 09:35:18 -0400
Subject: Sinister: This is where my summers have gone, I want a second chance
Message-ID: <199910090935_MC2-885B-A20F@compuserve.com>
The BBC's Walking With Dinosaurs has tainted my perception of things. I
imagined a hideous deformed being. Uncouth and loud with snarling yellow
teeth, long dirty claws and un-polished shoes. I dreaded listening to it
gruffly, roughly, murdering a poem about butterflies or flowers or brown
paper packages tied with string.
This morning my gentle dozing was disturbed by a scratching at my window.
I carefully removed the rose petals which had served as a blanket, wrapped
my silken gown around my bare shoulders and glided over to the French
doors. There, through the clear glass stood a figure of magnificent form
and beauty. Surrounded in a golden halo, like a cultured Golden Graham.
An enormous wing span tempted me. It was like a giant 65 million year old
hug from something cosy. I undid the latch and let it in. Once inside
cherubs descended from the painting on the ceiling and began to prepare a
breakfast of Strawberries, Mango, Grapes (seedless) and green tea. We took
our meal out into the patio to consume under the light of a morning sun.
Once sitting we talked for quite a few hours about Keats, Yeats and Marlow.
Even some bloke called Murdoch. Anyway, were great friends now. He
convinced me to offer something for harvest, so here it is.
The Darkling Thrush, Thomas Hardy
I leant upon a coppice gate
When Frost was spectre-grey,
And Winter's dregs made desolate
The weakening eye of day.
The tangled bine-stems scored the sky
Like strings of broken lyres,
And all mankind that haunted nigh
Had sought their household fries.
The land's sharp features seemed to be
The Century's corpse outleant,
His crypt the cloudy canopy,
The wind his death-lament
The ancient pulse of germ and birth
Was shrunken hard and dry
And every sprit upon earth
Seemed fervourless as I.
At once a voice arouse among
The bleak twigs overhead
In a full-hearted evensong
Of joy illimited;
An aged thrush, frail, gaunt and small,
In blast-beruffled plume,
Had chosen thus to fling his soul
Upon the growing gloom
So little cause for carolings
Of such ecstatic sound
Was written on terrestrial things
Afar or nigh around,
That I could think there trembled through
His happy good-night air
Some blessed Hope, whereof he knew
And I was unaware.
I think that it is customary at this point to whisper in the pterodactyl's
ear and persuade him who to fly to next. My first choice was Isobel
Cambell. But the pterodactyl just laughed. How about GEORGE DICKIE. I
said. This made the pterodactyl a bit cross because I shouted in his ear.
But sure enough and after he finished his green tea he took to the sky, off
to DICKIE acres.
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From steven.kado at xxx.ca Sat Oct 9 02:47:27 1999
From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 21:47:27 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Looking Up, he saw that on the contrary, the sky is like the viels of whick a thousand madonnas have let fall from their hair....
Message-ID: <37FE9EAF.F40B0B3@utoronto.ca>
Since books are very much an issue around here again i thought this
would be an ok time to bring this up (although I'm sure this has come up
before). has anyone noticed that there is quite a bit of obsessing over
a 'fox in the snow' in the first chapter of 'Orlando' by, perhaps my
favourite grown up author, Virginia Woolf (or is it that czec fellow who
turns into a beetle...i just can't be sure)?
anyway, if no one has noticed this then you should all go and read the
first chapter of said book and hopefully you'll read the
rest....although after reading the L.L.L.L. it seems that Orlando won't
be nearly smutty enough for sinisitrines....henry miller indeed! pah!
sk
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From ol01 at xxx.uk Sat Oct 9 15:40:08 1999
From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 15:40:08 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: I wrote a poem on a dog biscuit but your dog refused to look at it
Message-ID:
GAS MEN
My dad is a gas engineer and He's really a nice guy honest so please don't
say nasty things about them. In fact earlier this year he cycled accross
the country for charity so you should say nice things about him really.
KERRY'S LIST CRUSH
Well Kerry now that you've made a complaint about not getting any votes
and pointed out that you have a picture on the site (and a very nice
picture it is too) I'm sure that you'll get a lot of votes. Of course if I
was cynical I'd say that I always thought it better to give list crush
votes to people who write nice posts (and I'm not saying you don't) than
to people with sexy pictures, but as I'm not like that I won't say it.
THE PASTELS AND KURT COBAIN
Somebody was asking about the pastels so whoever it was should mail me and
then I can tell you lots of pointless facts about one of my favourite
bands. For instance did you know that Stephen Pastel produced the first
Vaselines stuff and it was some of Kurt Cobains favourite music hence the
cover versions of Molly's Lips and Jesus Don't Want Me For A Sunbeam. One
of my friends was at a concert once and the support band was Captain
America which was Eugene's band after the Vaselines and she was sitting at
the back smoking when some guy came up to her and asked for a cigarette,
she gave him one (a cigarette that is) and sat talking to him for a while
and then she noticed a large group of girls giving her nasty looks so she
asked him if he was in one of the bands and he said he was a lead singer
and that they were on later. It was only when Nirvana came on that she
realised that she'd been talking to Kurt Cobain.
B&S CONTENT
ermmm sorry I can't think of any right now. Maybe we should go back to
recounting all of our "hilarious" lyric mishearings. On second thoughts
maybe we shouldn't
AND FINALY
A quick update on my lovelife just to show that it's going as badly as
ever. The girl I'm after has decided that she likes me but that she
doesn't want to go out with me because of a couple of other women who like
me that I'm not interested in. She seems to think that because I have all
these women to choose from (that'd be funny if you'd ever met me) then I'm
going to dump her as soon as someone better comes along. Sometimes I don't
know why I bother with women.
bye now
love
owen
this is owen's signature file and as such will appear at the bottom of all
of his mails. If you have a problem with this then feel free to contact
him at
ol01 at students.stir.ac.uk
or
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From keythkeyth at xxx.net Sat Oct 9 21:12:33 1999
From: keythkeyth at xxx.net (keith mclachlan)
Date: 9 Oct 99 13:12:33 PDT
Subject: Sinister: books are filled with words
Message-ID: <19991009201233.24280.qmail@ww181.netaddress.usa.net>
someone brought up books again and i thought i'd just chime in cause someone
recently gave me luke sutherland's book 'jelly roll', now luke is a musical
genius and this may very well be a fine book(it was nominated for a
whitbred(sp?) award apparently) but i can't seem to get into scottish dialect
on the page. my girlfriend suggested i read it aloud and then i might find it
less aggravating, i dunno it just seems to be a complement to the american
south dialect which also seems to make me quite weary. luke's second book is
out in the new year, not sure if i want that one:). on another note anthony
from Jack has a book out soon as well, i am willing to bet that it will
involve drinking.
keith
the new moose ep is in fact sparkling:) how have they slid beneath the radar
of popular consciousness for so long? i remember reading reviews of their
live performances back when 'xyz' came out and the general theme seemed to be
that they turned those beautiful songs into droning dirges onstage, has anyone
actually seen them live?
i think if all the members of b&s write songs for b&s records then stuart m
should write looper and gentle waves songs:)
does owen post this nonsense about his abundance of admirers for pity?
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From craigrm at xxx.uk Sun Oct 10 15:32:21 1999
From: craigrm at xxx.uk (Craig)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 15:32:21 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Actual B&S content
Message-ID: <000b01bf132c$44ade8c0$aee393c3@orlando1>
OK I'll admit it's not "actual" as in band gossip or anything exciting like
that, but it still makes a nice change from the usual random thoughts I
insist on inflicting upon you all.
Firstly in order for this to all make sense I'll have to make a wee
confession. I have purchased this weeks NME. I can't fully explain it as
it's all a bit of a blur.... I can vaguely remember being in Sainsbury's and
the next thing I knew I was back home with a weeks supply of groceries, and
a brand spanking new copy of the NME.
I figured I might as well read it.
Lo & behold I came upon an article concerning "100 Ways That Rock Shook Up
The World".
01. Kurt Cobain's death - yawn
02. Dylan going electric
03. Belle & Sebastian winning a Brit award - accompanied by a lovely piccy
of Mick & Richard looking rather bemused by it all.
04. Neil Young and Lynyrd Skynyrd's Infamous spat
05. Lennon claiming the Beatles are bigger than Jesus
and so on .....
Still nice to see that the monumentous Brit's win was such an earth
shattering event, no doubt it had the 'Hot Line' between Downing St. and the
Whitehouse running red hot all night.
Here's what the NME had to say about it.
"A fabulous bit of barricade-charging here, as Stuart Murdoch's reclusive
gang stormed the world of Dave Stuart and Jonathan King. As surprise
nomination for 1998's Best Newcomer Brit Award, Belle & Sebastian were up
against Steps and Another Level - particularly tough competition given the
result was decided by a Radio 1 listeners poll. Yet not only did they win
gloriously, sending - in quiet mockery - drummer Richard Colburn and
trumpeter Mick Cook to collect their award, they also outraged pop pope Pete
Waterman, who claimed vote-rigging by e-mail.
Untrue: Belle & Sebastian fans were merely techno-literate, and the forces
of Scottish indie and computer science prevailed. A result in every way."
Ohhhh does that mean the NME likes us now ?.
Anyway that's enough for now, I'll let you get on with your lives until my
next thrilling post.
Don't let Jack Frost bite !!! (unless he's paying £175 an hour for the
privilege, and even then there's no tongues allowed)
Craig xoxx
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From Blissxo at xxx.com Sun Oct 10 17:17:25 1999
From: Blissxo at xxx.com (Blissxo at xxx.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:17:25 EDT
Subject: Sinister: being around
Message-ID: <0.479af342.25321615@aol.com>
lovely listmonkeys,
it's been awhile, and i've been keeping up on your exciting goings-on as i've
been learning about how to manipulate your minds using nothing more than
simple words, pictures, and sounds. advertising, it's called, and it's the
love of my life. i'm trying to minimise the role of boys in my world, you
see. although i am officially known as 'boy crazy' among friends. perhaps
even among enemies.
tigermilk has finally grown on me to the level of twattybus and iyfs, and is
threatening to surpass them as my Ultimate Belle and Sebastian Album, the
album i reach for when i'm feeling all reflective and bouncy. those moods
occur more often than you'd think.
i've missed numerous toronto concerts lately, and i'm feeling bad about it
because hey, i'm a music geek and that's got to be maintained.
but what i have done, however, is visited the totally redone whiskey a go go.
yes folks, that was me on friday on stage with no top on and jenteal playing
with my nipples. i'll be back this next friday if any of you would like to
join my fanclub. it's the cool thing to do, even though i didn't spot any
boys with arab straps.
and, as always, there's my webpage, http://www.geocities.com/jessicaxo (don't
you love shortcuts?), detailing the mundanities of my life. so go crazy.
oh, and for those of you that visit the girls on film website, there are
reviews of tigermilk going on. alongside reviews of that new
marky-mark/george clooney film, but hey, you know.
and i'll subtly remind you of the listcrush site and my teeny number of votes
(last check: one). so if you're stuck on who you should be voting for, i'm
indiscriminate.
mwahmwah to all of you,
jessicaxo
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From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Sun Oct 10 22:14:05 1999
From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE DICKIE)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:14:05 PDT
Subject: Sinister: BREATHING HAS NEVER BEEN SO EASY
Message-ID: <19991010211406.25328.qmail@hotmail.com>
GA GA GA
GA GA
THAT IS THE SORT OF THING I USED TO SAY
WHEN I WAS A BABY
BUT NOW I'M OLDER
AND I CAN EVEN WRITE POEMS
I THOUGHT I WOULD GIVE YOU ONE OF MY POEMS
AS I FEEL MORE AT HOME
ON THE LIST
SEEEEEEEEEEE WHAT U THINK
*DON'T FORGET TO FEED THE CAT GEORGE*
SAFETY FIRST
YOU DON'T WANT BROKEN KNEES
IS THE ONLY PLUSS
TO MY DISEASE
OF BEDROOM DREAMS
BOREDOM
CREATIVE FREEDOM
WHATEVER YOU CALL LONELINESS
THE PHONE STILL DON'T RING ENOUGH
THROWING BOOKS AT THE TV AND RADIO
WRITING POEMS
DYING YOUR HAIR
PRETENDING YOU DON'T CARE
MOMENTS OF EUPHORIA
CAN ONLY COME
FROM BEATING THE CAT
AT SNAP
MOG TURN INTO A MOOG
AND TEACH ME TO PLAY KEYBOARD
I WANT TO DESTROY THE WORLD OF MUSIC
I WANT TO BE LOVED
AND TAKEN OUT TO LUNCH
OH CAT
I AM ANNOYED
APART FROM BEDROOM DREAMS
MY LIFE IS A VOID
I HAVE MANY OTHER
TOOOOO MANY
I LIKE TO WRITE
LOVE
AND
SALAD
GEORGETCETCETCETCETC
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From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sun Oct 10 23:18:05 1999
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:18:05 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Number 5! You're alive!!!
Message-ID: <002501bf136d$53e14b20$2ed6b0c2@default>
Hello my twee companions...
LOOPER
I'm trying to find out what the hell is going on with the Argyll St Virgin
Megastore gig. Do I need a ticket or not? Different staff have told me
different things and I'm now totally confused... Anyone shed some light?
A LOST LISTEE
Well, I've met Heather McDonald, the American listee who is now living in
Glasgow for a year. She's really a nice gal, if a little overwhelmed by the
city and the price of everything over here. We saw a cassette of The Smiths
for £15. Rip off or what?
ERRRMMM...
I spent this week searching for a weekend job in Glasgow. No success. I now
have only £40 to last me until my next student loan installment in January.
If any Glasgow listees know where I could find employment, could you help me
out?
SKITTLES
Taste the rainbow. Isn't the wee mannie on top of the big rock insane?
POETRY PARROT EATEN BY POETRY PTERODACTLY!!!
I've watched as the poetry has spouted forth from the list, and have decided
to add my own to the mixture. Shouts of 'Rubbish!' should be sent to
jasonandreas at breathemail.net
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A Melancholy Love Song
I see we all walk through the night with a heavy burdened soul,
And the path of love runs smoothly, for no-one on this Earth,
When you see your true love smile those clouds just drift away,
Because, deep down, we're all the same,
We don't want to be alone.
I suppose that it's just a part of mankind's spirit and our makeup,
That we spend a great deal of time just looking for the one,
That special person to fill our lives and hold us close at night,
And do we deserve that love we wish?
Or are we on our own?
I wonder why these melancholy love songs shine so bright,
Like those beautiful rainbows in a new-found lover's eyes,
The bard is playing his soft and beautiful tunes upon your soul,
For we all know we must find love,
We feel it in our bones.
When you look upon the dawn, all red and gold and green,
You can see in the colours bright a love that you must seek,
One day you'll find that person with those colours in their soul,
Then you'll know you've found the one,
The arrow to your bow.
So look around my thoughtful friend, and think on what you see,
Examine all those people whom you've never seen before,
Look again at everyday friends, the ones you've known for years,
Look close enough, they might be there,
You just never know.....
----------------
STEREOLABORATORY
Is anyone going to see Stereolab at the Garage in Glasgow this month?
THE LUNATIC IS ON THE GRASS
I *finally* got around to buying Dark Side Of The Moon today, after hearing
endless stories of how great Pink Floyd were, I decided to give them a try.
I must say that I love it. Very nice and I'd recommend it to anyone who
hasn't heard it. p.s. anyone know how I can access track 10?
ALL TOMORROW'S PINCERS
Is ATP going to go ahead at a later date or not? Could someone mail me with
the proper info, as I can't seem to find any mention of it anywhere.....
MONTY PYTHON NIGHT
Did anyone see the South Park version of the Dead Parrot sketch?
Unbelievably funny.
LOVE
It's just not going to happen for me, is it?
DID YOU READ THIS FAR DOWN???
You fool. Well done anyway. Thanks.
-- Jason Andreas
-- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people
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From zutroy at xxx.org Mon Oct 11 07:58:22 1999
From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 02:58:22 -0400
Subject: Sinister: drrrrrrrrrrrrrunk possssssssssssst
Message-ID:
so i know it's tacky and all, but i'm drunk and since it's rare that i'm
this drunk i thought i'd post.
man, i'm hitting that delete key a lot.
anyway, i'll start it out with some B&S content:
i think i really want them to come back to the US simply so i can talk to
chris geddes again and maybe have sex with him. that would be really nice.
anyway, so a friend of mine who's on leave this semester at the NIH is in
town for the long weekend and i went to the place where she's staying (the
house she lived in on campus for the past couple years) and got drunk with
her and her friends. anyway, she lives with this boy that i've been friends
with since my first year here (it's now my fourth) and last year me and him
got a little drunk (well, he got really drunk) and ended up having this
strange conversation because i said i wanted to boff one of his friends and
he was like "go for it. you're totally hot. i've considered having sex with
you a few times." but he said the only thing that was stopping his pursuing
me was that he had a girlfriend.
anyway, i'm not so sure he has that girlfriend anymore. so i'm sitting on
their back porch talking to him for like an hour and a half and i casually
mention that jon and i broke up, because i wanted him to know that.
anyway, the few people that were there end up leaving and it's just me,
him, and my friend. so we talk for a bit, then my friend says she needs to
go to bed soon and i swear it took like every ounce of willpower i have to
resist staying longer to get even drunker with this kid because i knew i'd
end up fooling around with him or something, and no matter how tempting
that is i know i'd totally regret it because i have this massive aversion
to sexual acts under the influence of just about any kind of drug,
including alcohol.
wow. my arms are really warm right now. must be my muscles converting the
alcohol into sugar and my capillaries moving closer to the surface of my
skin because alcohol does that.
anyway, they're having another party tomorrow night and i think i may ask
my friend if that boy is still dating that girl (i've seen him a few times
this semester and no sign of the girl).
but, wait! the friend that i told the boy i wanted to have sex with: i
thought he might be on leave this semester but then he showed up really
briefly tonight and i didn't get a chance to talk to him because we're not
particularly close or anything. but i posed all cute and stuff and maybe he
noticed me. maybe not. although i'm pretty sure every girl on campus has
wanted to have sex with that kid, and i think most of them have (eew). but
the other kid (oh fuck it, his name's seth); i don't think he remembers
telling me that he wanted to have sex with me, so i don't really know how
to proceed from here. he's cute and stuff but i've known him for so long .
. . and i'm so desperate right now.
oh well, enough of that. i'm not even sure if i'm going to send this
because it's really no more than a drunken ramble and probably doesn't make
any sense at all, anyway. i think i need to go to bed.
this reminds me of that spring break i spent in germany. except i didn't
have email then (thank god).
enough of that.
goodnight people.
i hope honey doesn't kill me, and hope you don't think less of me. i think
i'll go on irc for a while, that's always fun.
-kerry
"maybe if you find the time you'll make out with me, desperate me."
-halo benders, "will work for food"
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From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Mon Oct 11 09:31:34 1999
From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (Linda Kerr)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:31:34 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Catch him if you can...
Message-ID:
Hey
Just heard on the radio that Mick Cooke has been designated the
"48th most eligible bachelor in Scotland" by the Scotland in Sunday
newspaper.
Awwww
Linda
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From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Oct 11 10:12:52 1999
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:12:52 +0200
Subject: Sinister: Message to Pretty
Message-ID: <01bf13c8$cc84b7a0$LocalHost@itjfvkli>
Christopher, when I got my photo taken with motorcycle ace Barry
Sheene, I didn't say anything, my mate's mum did all the talking. If I
remember correctly, Christopher, you always go and see Robin
Williamson with your mum and dad, so if I were you, I'd get your mum
to do the talking. But I'd try that "tousle tousle tousle" business
first.
I heard the Jarvis Cocker Looper remix. It's right up there with the
Gentle Waves. More interestingly, I heard "The Indie Pop List" by
Momus, which is quite funny. I strained my ears to hear mentions of
you lot, but the only one I caught was The 13 o' Clock, which rings a
bell from somewhere in the distant past. It is an insanely catchy
song. I got the Norma Waterson album too. It's very sad, makes you cry
for Freddie Mercury. The droning sound on "River Man" turns out to be
a hurdy gurdy. It's the Sister Disco Purchase of the Week.
Thailand news: The man-woman boxer was on telly for at least fifteen
minutes. His/Her opponent kissed him /her before the bouting
commenced, so he/she got really angry and hammered the fucker. I quite
fancy him/her, and I bet I'm not the only one.
Pop star authors: I think the problem is this - the general public
perceives pop stars as silly billies and writers as clever dicks, so
if one tries to do the other's job, they become a silly dick or a
clever billy, and it's like a face with a wonky nose.
Sister Disco
PS: Nice poem, George.
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From p.cullen at xxx.com Mon Oct 11 10:16:12 1999
From: p.cullen at xxx.com (Paula Cullen)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:16:12 +0100
Subject: Sinister: re: friday nights drunken post...
Message-ID: <01BF13D1.A5A7E680.p.cullen@music-control.com>
"i can truly say that i
am as pissed as rwo farts at this moment."
i *think* i meant to say "as pissed as *two* farts".
probably.
paula cullen booze explosion
booooze!!!! yeeeaaahh!!!
"getting beer poured over your head isn't necessarily a bad thing.
it's cold, it's good for your hair, and it makes you smell like a champ."
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From Alexandre.Tobin at xxx.nl Mon Oct 11 12:27:59 1999
From: Alexandre.Tobin at xxx.nl (Alexandre Tobin)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:27:59 +0200
Subject: Sinister: nalda again
Message-ID: <19991011112324812.AAA441@www-server.ucu.uu.nl@[131.211.105.90]>
Hi all,
Two quick things from the extremely informal 'Stuart David Information
Service' (actually nothing to do with him at all...):
1. There have been a few shiftings-around of Looper dates in support of
'Nalda Said' next week... The updates are at http:www.postmodern.co.uk.
2. Also, only four days left to enter the competition for your free copy.
The same URL applies, and I've received about twenty answers so far. Some
are extremely cheeky, you bastards (Like I expected anything else.)! I just
received the books in the mail, and they look very cool, so give it a shot.
Take care, and cheers,
Alex
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From Alexandre.Tobin at xxx.nl Mon Oct 11 12:45:45 1999
From: Alexandre.Tobin at xxx.nl (Alexandre Tobin)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:45:45 +0200
Subject: Sinister: nalda yet again
Message-ID: <19991011114110718.AAC439@www-server.ucu.uu.nl@[131.211.105.90]>
Sorry, but I forgot to add the '//' part in the URL, so it didn't work.
Here is the link for the 'Nalda Said' info...
http://www.postmodern.co.uk
Thanks again,
Alex
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From paularathoon at xxx.com Mon Oct 11 13:43:50 1999
From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:43:50 BST
Subject: Sinister: sinister:romance isn't dead yet
Message-ID: <19991011124351.30089.qmail@hotmail.com>
Around last Valentine's day an envelope was delivered to the student house I
live in. It was addressed to someone who obviously had lived there some
years ago. We were used to such mail and usually returned
it to sender. However there was no return address on this envelope.
Furthermore, there was a tape in this envelope. We speculated upon what it
could be and laughed at the suggestion that it could be Belle and Sebastian.
As I recall, we decided it was probably Bon Jovi.
Curiousity overcame us by this stage and we opened the letter (in blatant
disregard for the law). There was a tape and a number of pink cut-out
letters that appeared to make a girls name. we stuck the tape on and sat in
astonishment as the first line came rolling out of the speakers "He had a
stroke at the age of 24...". We had just opened the
most romantic valentine's present ever. I don't know who the tape was
intended for other than someone called James and don't know who it was
from but I'd like to think that they got in contact eventually.
Anyway that's my random Belle and Sebastain story.
Paul
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From igh1 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 11 13:50:40 1999
From: igh1 at xxx.uk (igh1)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:50:40 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: He said Tigermilk costs 300 pounds, our survey said . . .
In-Reply-To: <19991011124351.30089.qmail@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:
Bonkers, bit of B&S content for once . . . I've just been
quoted 300 squid for Tigermilk (which the guy says is in
mint condition). Does anyone know if this is a fair price??
Cheers, btw please let me know as soon as possible cos I've
got to phone him quite soon to let him know whether I
interested, thanks again, I'll go now, cheerio,
IAn.
On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:43:50 BST Paul Arathoon
wrote:
> Around last Valentine's day an envelope was delivered to the student house I
> live in. It was addressed to someone who obviously had lived there some
> years ago. We were used to such mail and usually returned
> it to sender. However there was no return address on this envelope.
> Furthermore, there was a tape in this envelope. We speculated upon what it
> could be and laughed at the suggestion that it could be Belle and Sebastian.
> As I recall, we decided it was probably Bon Jovi.
> Curiousity overcame us by this stage and we opened the letter (in blatant
> disregard for the law). There was a tape and a number of pink cut-out
> letters that appeared to make a girls name. we stuck the tape on and sat in
> astonishment as the first line came rolling out of the speakers "He had a
> stroke at the age of 24...". We had just opened the
> most romantic valentine's present ever. I don't know who the tape was
> intended for other than someone called James and don't know who it was
> from but I'd like to think that they got in contact eventually.
> Anyway that's my random Belle and Sebastain story.
>
> Paul
>
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From m.waggner at xxx.net Mon Oct 11 15:48:15 1999
From: m.waggner at xxx.net (Michele Waggner)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:48:15 -0400
Subject: Sinister: What else have you got to do, really?
Message-ID: <004901bf13f7$a8003920$43aa4f0c@amstech>
UK Sinisterines....
I'm passing on some info for those of you looking to maybe get out of your
houses/rooms this week. As I wrote awhile back, some homies from my area,
The Butterflies of Love, are making their way over to your neck of the
woods and they're worth a listen... I saw them do an in-store last week and
it was really quite good. This is an update of their UK plans as previously
posted, because there have been some changes.
The October 17 gig supporting Marine Research has been cancelled because the
Butterflies have gotten a Peel thing and decided to do that instead. But
they will get a chance to play with Amelia (get your minds out of the
gutter) on Oct. 15 as she'll be on keyboards with Sportique at the Bull and
Gate.
October 14, Nottingham, Bunker's Hill -- with Airport Girl and Twinkie.
October 15, London, Bull and Gate -- with Mark 700, Action Time and
Sportique.
October 16, London, The Scala -- with Cato, the Smith Garrett Band, Airport
Girl, Spraydog, the Family Way, Comet Gain, Birdie (St. Etienne backup
singer), Rosita (two of those Kenickie girls), Spearmint and Quickspace.
The Butterflies' got a good review in NME last week, in that sort of odd
way they give good reviews. Melody Maker was not so kind, but what the hell
do they know? The records are released on the Secret 7 label here in the US
and on Fortuna Pop in the UK.
So, see them if you get a chance... and say hello to my friend Chris Razz
who'll be there with them. He'll be the one ... well, I dunno. He might be
looking like he's the manager. See if you can find him. Tell him I sent
this.
B&S Content? Chris Razz first played IYFS for me, gave me a really good
clear tape of Tigermilk back in the analog days, wrapped in Spice Girls
paper if I recall correctly... and he likes the Gentle Waves for some
bizarre reason. Don't hold it against him, he's nice and has good taste
musically, really.
--michele who didn't even get a free single for doing this
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From K992837 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 11 19:21:45 1999
From: K992837 at xxx.uk (Sarah Clarke)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:21:45 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Bring it all back Now!
Message-ID: <199910111825.MAA15040@turtle.esosoft.net>
Moshi-Moshi Sinister-san,
Well spank my Pop Monkey! What a productive time I've having at Uni. Ha ha! I
mean, what a productive time I have at the weekends when I run away from the
steaming pile of CRAPNESS that is Kingston into the promiscuous arms of
Lunding Town. Kingston is like Preston, but without the blood sweat and tears
and WITH Fucking Cockney Wankers. Yuuurrgh!
However, I have won myself a nice semi-scoustic guitar. Vic Godard popped
round my lovely "woom" to deliver it in person after I won it off him in a game of
strip poker after his affair at Dingwalls. One fact in there is a lie. But the truth
remains that VIC GODARD CAME ROUND TO MY HOUSE and gave me his guitar!
Touched! By the hands of VicGodard&EdwynCollins! As New Order didn't sing,
but they would've done, if they were me.
Jason Andreas seems to live in Glasgow, you know. Hard to believe but its true.
Lots of people live in Glasgow...
And also, last night whilst watching Mary Shellys Frankenstein on the telly - at
one point they were running round the gardens shouting "Willy! Willy"! "Its not
funny anymore Willy!" Ah but I beg to differ, it IS still funny and it is continuing to
amuse me today. Kenneth Branagagahahagah knows nowt about high and
sophisticated yumour like wot I do.
Someones subject line was that its easy to fall in love. I don't think it is though. Is
that just me? I'm with Stuart on the ol' "don't love anyone" juice. Unfair. I don't
think I've fallen in love with anyone. People have told me that they loved me and I
felt repulsed by saying it back. I certainly felt nothing of the sort. I think that there
are people who find it easy to say "i love you" and probably do genuinely think
they are in love, whereas I'm with the cynical bastards in the corner with our
"don't love anyone" juice.
Now, I used to think this was good. In a way I still do - as I don't want to lose my
heart to just anyone concerning what could be just a mere bagatelle on my
own/their part, but does that make me cold and unfeeling? You see I don't know
this "love" feeling. I remember always using to say - "Oh, I just wish I had
someone who loved me" when I felt alone. Then I got someone, and I realised it
wasn't enough. Its got to be two sided. I have to fall in love. And I haven't! And
this makes me full of righteous rage! Is my current crush "love"? Its much more
fun than not having a crush, for sure. I'll just get Yukari Fresh to write a disco-
songle about it and that will make it a lot more fun. I love Yukari Fresh!
Speaking of which, I have started learning Japanese. Sarah-san wa kawaii
desu! I think that should mean "sarah is cute", but I've probably just said I need a
poo. Or something like that.
Halt!
Love Sarah
xx
PS - I think I will go to Smile.
PPS - I also think I'll have to find a strawberry milky way.
PPPS - Don't whinge about being at Cambridge Marcus, it'll let you into the old
boys network and be very rich. It'll be worth it.
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From giita at xxx.com Mon Oct 11 20:31:03 1999
From: giita at xxx.com (Giita .)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:31:03 GMT
Subject: Sinister: lovely snowdrops
Message-ID: <19991011193109.36439.qmail@hotmail.com>
An autumn day.
I walked on a road full of sparkling glitter, frozen water on asphalt. I
looked up and saw mountain peeks covered in snow. I was happy. Then I was
utterly destroyed by a letter my flying penguin brought me.
Tears and sadness overcame me...why had this happened?
On my way home a snowman gave me a smile..I wondered why...what a strange
look he gave me..
On my doorstep there was a note . It said to follow the path of candlelit
leaves and at the end you will find the love that fell. And so I walked down
the winding path that was sprinkled with candlelit leaves and felt a curious
excitement in my belly. I reached the end. An enlarged bee was there. No
words were exchanged.
Silently he gave me a parcel of Joy, wrapped in a box of strawberries.
Joyous tear drops escaped my eyes.
The secret I so longed to know was now revealed to me. I walked home humming
a smiling tune..
The bird that was disguised as a poetry parrot was handed to me.
Here is a poem I found by Federico Garc�a Lorca. I think the Spanish version
looks nicer..
-------------------------------------
CANCION
Por las ramas del laurel
vi dos palomas oscuras.
La una era el sol
la otra la luna.
Vecinitas, les d�je.
D�nde est� mi sepultura?
En mi cola, dijo el sol.
En mi garganta, dijo la luna.
Y yo que estaba caminando
con la tierra a la cintura
vi dos �guilas de m�rmol
y una muchacha desnuda.
La una era la otra
y la muchacha era ninguna.
Aguilitas, les dije,
D�nde est� mi sepultura?
En mi cola, dijo el sol.
En mi garganta, dijo la luna.
Por las ramas del cerezo
vi dos palomas desnudas.
La una era la otra
y las dos eran ninguna.
SONG
In the laurel branches,
I spied two dark doves.
The one was the sun;
the other, the moon.
Little neighbor ladies, I said:
O where lies my tomb?
In my tail, said the sun.
In my throat, said the moon.
And I, who was walking
with the earth to my waist,
spied two eagles of marble
and a naked young girl.
The one was the other,
and the girl was neither.
Little eagles, I said to them:
O where lies my tomb?
In my tail, said the sun.
In my throat, said the moon.
In the cherry tree branches,
I spied two naked doves.
The one was the other,
and both were neither one
-----------------------------------------
The parrot now flies on to Neil Krajewski�s head..
Love & hugs,
XXX @->-- Giita
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From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk Mon Oct 11 20:00:41 1999
From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (HerDivineShadow)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:00:41 +0100
Subject: Sinister: dont bring flowers, take a chance, on some graves you should dance.
Message-ID: <017101bf142b$ab4d91c0$5427883e@anne666theasylum>
hello sinister
how r we all feeling then?
good i hope.
im feeling...
well i am off on my october break.
no school for a week. yay. :|
b&s stories?
i have 1. i dont know if its true or not, this guy i know told me.
basically he has a friend who is in a band, and he was playing in a place
where b&s used to play. some guy came up to him and asked him if he ever
played (or something like that) b&s, and he said naw their shite. and yes
youve guessed it that guy was stuart murdoch.
anyway i dont know if it is true. but its not my story so what the hell.
your friend always
me, myself and everyone else
the individual formerly known as sweetie.
xox
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
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From steven.kado at xxx.ca Mon Oct 11 13:40:11 1999
From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:40:11 -0400
Subject: Sinister: animal x! hot potato!
References: <19991011193109.36439.qmail@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3801DAAB.ED049EA9@utoronto.ca>
anyone lucky enough to be in toronto today got themselves one honey of a
fall day, that is for sure. boy was it nice. it was so nice it almost
put me in a bad mood.
my mum and i went to the zoo today.
regardless of what you may think about imprisoning animals it _is_ a
nice place to go every so often. the sheer variety of forms and shapes
and things and ways that nature gets away with are constantly
astounding. as a result i want a pet wombat.
also, there were these birds right near the front of the zoo, hyacintine
mackaws or something who were beautiful shades of blue and had
incredibly agile tongues and beaks. thhey were a joy to watch, but
they made the most hellish sound. it was so miserable sounding that it
made the hairs stand up on the back of my neck. they didn't really seem
unhappy, they just seemed to like making that sound. i thought of the
poetry parrot (although i realize that these were mackaws) and smiled to
myself.
i must confess i don't really like poetry. too many people around me
crank out volumes of the stuff and i have to go to readings because
they're nice people and they deserve the support but when they start
talking i just have to wear big sweaters to cover the
cringing....although there are gems every now and again. the last
reading i was at was uniformly dismal but one fellow did this rousing
number which got my blood a flowin'. he would go on for a bit about how
some female was rejecting his advances and when it was his turn, in the
poem that was, to offer the reasons for her taking him into her heart he
would yell: but I HAVE A LOVE THE SIZE OF LOS ANGELES!!! and after a
while everyone yelled it along with him because we knew what was
coming. it was fun. it rained that day and i ate an entire bag of that
cheddar popcorn, so that my mouth would be full and i'd have an excuse
not to lie to my friends about what i thought of their poetry.
good evening (or morning or afternoon or something)
steven kado
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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Tue Oct 12 18:23:57 1999
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 13:23:57 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Ida Lupino
Message-ID: <199910121324_MC2-88B6-34AA@compuserve.com>
Hi There,
Nalda Said: replete with anagrammatical possibilities, I'm sure. Asian,
sad, land & laid are all lurking in there, but I can't make anything better
than Dial A Nads yet.
Dropped into Virgin today to pick up my tickets for the Looper in-store on
Monday, & also got a few spares. I don't know how sought-after these will
be, but any member of the Sinister masseeev who is definitely going but is
uncertain of being able to obtain tickets please drop me a line & I'll post
them to you. Alternatively we can arrange to meet on Monday & I'll pass
them on then.
Starry: visited sunny Lancashire recently & scoffed a barm & a coffee in
the Warton Sandwich Bar in your honour.
Thai Fax:
+66 (931) 987654
or
Thailand is sending 1,580 troops to participate in the International Forces
East Timor peacekeeping operation, (forming the second largest military
contingent behind Australia,) in the
first deployment of the Thai military abroad for an operation since the
Vietnam War.
I like the idea of Thai Peacekeepers.
Regards,
David Moore
Chelmsford, UK
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From jp.champagne at xxx.ca Tue Oct 12 19:43:43 1999
From: jp.champagne at xxx.ca (jp.champagne at xxx.ca)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 14:43:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinister: New to the parts...
Message-ID:
Hi all,
I'm a new one to this town and wanted to say "hi."
I've a mailing-list habit that has probably been done n number of times
before, but I'm always interested in checking out what people are
listening to (and really curious to see how B&S overlap with others).
I'll get things started:
1) B&S. I guess that's no shocker. Really disappointed when I showed
up to the Opera House last winter here in Toronto, only to see "Show
cancelled."
2) There was Smiths' talk some time back - big guns in my books.
3) Billy Bragg fans out there?
4) Tortoise and the extended Thrill Jockey offsprings (Isotope 217,
Brokeback, Pullman, Directions in Music) - plus BIG fix on the Sea and
Cake (the Sam Prekop album is also really sharp - Archer Prewitt's leave
something to be desired, tho).
5) More Thrill Jockey - Trans Am.
6) Mogwai are decent. Recent show at the Horseshoe was a bit tedious at
times.
7) Lots of indie rock staples: Archers of Loaf (plus Barry Black - Eric
Bachmann did a solo set here last year at the Horseshoe, and it was just
beautiful, plus he's playing with Superchunk at the end of the month),
GBV, Yo La Tengo, Superchunk, et al.....
8) Trashcan Sinatras - haven't found too many other fans. I just bought
the Japanese re-release of "Cake" for $48. Fuck, that's tough on the
books, but have you heard Drunken Chorus and Useless? Point finale.
9) Just recently picked up Arab Strap's Philaphobia. Still digesting,
but tastes pretty good so far. I guess the lyrics are sorta honest...
10) DJ Shadow. Done.
11) Rachel's, although I've still yet to really get a firm hold on
Selenography despite having bought it ages ago.
12) A band whose praises I can't sing enough: Godspeed You Black
Emperor! Caught them a short while back, and it was astounding.
13) Anything Will Oldham touches.
I guess that's a start. In retrospect, such postings seem a little
juvenile, but then again, I've never once contended that I possess any
level of maturity.
And there it is.
JPMFC
P.S. How about a useless thread: where is the oddest place you've found
yourself listening to B&S? For me, it's barreling down 100's of
kilometers of horrible dirt road in a beat-up Land Rover in Uganda.
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From k.watson at xxx.uk Tue Oct 12 20:28:02 1999
From: k.watson at xxx.uk (Keith Watson)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:28:02 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Help me make loads of money
Message-ID:
Hello all you people - got a quick message for you chaps.
We're running a club in Glasgow (Glasgow's first REAL MUSIC night). It's
called "In Tune" and it will feature the DJ-ing "talents" of myself, Claire
Timmins, Mick and Alasdair Cooke (not Alasdair from the list, but Mick (48)
Cooke's Brother).
It's at the 13th note Cafe on King Street in Glasgow, famously thought to be
owned by Bis - who rip the "kids" off by selling fanzines allegedly, at 9:00
till 12:00 this Friday. Inspired by Bis's alleged activity, we plan to
fleece everyone who enters by the sum of 1 pound sterling, which we'll use
to get a taxi back home again after the club, leaving all the poor kids to
freeze to death in the Glasgow night.
We're gonna be playing any sort of music really, just anything that's good,
and if it goes down well, we'll do another night. It's supposed to just be
like a great big party.
Anyone's welcome to come along and pay a pound, please do.
Anyhow, enough of that rampant capitalism, sorry I haven't posted to the
list for bloody ages, things used to be really relaxed in attitude at work,
but they're not now I'm afraid to say and I can't really post from work.
Nice to see Sarah mentioning monkeys whom I still believe are the new rock
and roll - to back this up, this months Viz (which is a comic, and as we all
well know, comedy is the old new rock and roll) contains an advert for
Monkey Fags, which contains 0.01% Nicotine, and 3.6% Banana! - rock and
roll.
Peter, lovely to hear your Barry Sheene exploits. I once met Fish - he was
funny, he put this really fake broad Scottish accent on so as to appear
harder than he actually is. Actually, that reminds me, may have said this
one before but, my old flatmate met Fish on Victoria Street in Edinburgh
once, he said "Oh, it's Fish", and Fish went "Fuck off". I once met Chancer
from City Lights in the pub too, I went "Hey - it's Gerard Kelly, you're the
funny man, from the telly" and he went "No, it's Andy Gray".
Cheers,
Keith.
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From bas at xxx.uk Tue Oct 12 21:52:14 1999
From: bas at xxx.uk (Vince Russell)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 21:52:14 +0100
Subject: Sinister: The gas man and the inflatable cod
References: <62WefCASwd$3EwIZ@send.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <003201bf14f4$d8245a20$2351fea9@vince>
Well hello everyone,
The exploits of Steve will live on, I have evidence that he still lives,
great news huh? To continue the saga, Steve was last seen in a club in
Fulham, having a really great time I have to add, I woke the next day with
no sign of my piscean friend anywhere, so I presumed him dead, I have been
in mourning ever since. And then came a phone call, late last night, now I
know what your going to say and I won't worry because I've translated
Steve's transcript in English,
Steve : Hi is Vince there?
Vince : Speaking
S : Hi Vince, it's Steve!
V : Steve? Is this some sort of joke?
S : No, it's me Steve the Fish
V : I thought you'd...you know...passed on
S : No no, when you left I was getting passionate with a girl called Susie
from Worcester
V : What?
S : She was really nice...and...well...we've decided to get married and tour
the world
V : WHAT!!!!
S : I'm sorry if this is a bit of a shock to you, but...
V : Bloody right it's a shock, you're a fish!
S : Racist bastard!
V : What? How am I racist?
S : Well, you said I couldn't travel the world because i'm a fish!
V : An inflatable fish I might add
S : Look, I called to see if you were all right with this but I can see i'm
wasting my...
V : Steve, Steve, look, i'm sorry, i'm just really surprised, and i'll
like...you know...miss you
S : I'll be back, and don't worry i'll write to you
V : When do you leave?
S : Tonight
V : Take care Steve, say Hi to Susie for me
S : Bye Vince.
V : Bye Steve
So Steve has gone, but has not died, to all those on the list who live
outside the UK, if you see Steve say Hi from me, he's a good guy, and
according to Steve's brother, Jonathan, Susie's a great girl also.
And me? i'll be fine, I have my eye on a very nice small plastic hedgehog
called Andrea.
Bye for now,
Vince.
----- Original Message -----
From: Martin Robinson
To:
Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 12:57 PM
Subject: Sinister: The gas man and the inflatable cod
> Dear all,
>
> I'm afraid I bring bad news to all those admirers and followers of Steve
> the inflatable fish. He is missing presumed dead after having several
> drinks and then being passed round the dancefloor, a bit like Owen Meany
> in Sunday school, of a small club in trendy Fulham. Rumours of an
> inflatable Crimewatch special, as of yet, are unfounded. The Wake is
> presently being delayed in case his deflated remains are found. The
> saddest part of it all is that I never got the chance to tell him that I
> loved him really.
>
> Anyway, at the absence of anything constructive to say and not wishing
> to extend the heated Richard Stilgoe debate to the highlights of the
> career of the amusingly spectacled Cristopher Biggins I shall just
> continue pointlessly and say: I think Mr Casarotto's spiel on Mr Ken
> Kesey was more than a bit harsh
>
> >What a grade A cunt that Ken
> >Kesey must be! And Pete's letter just made me spit bile - his account
> of
> >Kesey's experiments is all the evidence I need for the introduction of
> >compulsory lobotomies for anyone who thinks any thoughts they have
> while
> >tripping are worth foisting on anyone else. Very big and clever you sad
> old
> >men.
>
> Wasn't Kesey was paid by the American government to take LSD? As they
> had no idea what effect it had. He then, being of an open mind, began
> experimenting with it and passing it on to all his mates. LSD had no
> history at this point, so they weren't to know that it would be
> responsible for a load of hippies walking round going "Wow man!". So in
> conclusion everything is the fault of the American government, quelle
> surprise, and it is probably they who are the "grade A cunt"'s.
>
> Aren't gassy men a pain? The bloke came to replace the pump on my
> central heating yesterday and then in the evening I get water coming
> through the kitchen. Apparently he damaged the gas cylinder making it
> leak, so they drained that and now have to replace to it. Consequently I
> have no hot water and the only thing heated in my abode was the
> conversation I had with the gas board to get it fixed quickly. What a
> bunch of "grade A cunt"'s they are (I can use this nasty word all the
> time now and just say I'm quoting that foul mouthed fouler Casarotto).
> Anyway can I start a new list of recommended domestic heating service
> providers? Go electric kids you won't regret it.
>
> Time to conclude this tedium as there's a pint with my name on it.
>
> Te ra,
>
> Martin
>
> ear confection recordings
> (http://www.send.demon.co.uk)
>
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From MFDOWGERT at xxx.edu Wed Oct 13 00:16:03 1999
From: MFDOWGERT at xxx.edu (Matthew Dowgert)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 19:16:03 -0400
Subject: Sinister: world keep on turnin'...
Message-ID:
i'm in a computer lab at school, writing a paper and listening to stevie wonder, innervisions cd and damn if it's not fucking awesome. stevie rocks, he plays all the instruments on a bunch of the songs. and he's blind. damn. i mean, i knew he was blind, and i knew he was cool, but all i heard before was superstition, an awesome song, but i thought that it might just be his best and the rest might not be too great. but heck, he proved me an ignorant fool, because this whole cd is fantabulous.
just as 3...6..9 seconds of light is fantabulous.
just as my mom's apple pie is fantabulous.
just as a new pair of socks is fantabulous.
just as the end of this e is fantabulous.
matthew francis dowgert
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From tew at xxx.net Wed Oct 13 03:18:29 1999
From: tew at xxx.net (Ted Whalen)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 21:18:29 -0500
Subject: Sinister: today's special
Message-ID: <19991012211829.A258@wish.psych.nwu.edu>
This message is by way of introduction. I think perhaps a summary of the
events of this weekend will serve as a primer to my life and the state that
I'm in.
Saturday, as I was on my way to a party thrown by people I don't especially
like, I stopped at the local bar for a bite and a pint. It seems like
everyone at the bar conspired to make me staggeringly drunk. I stumbled
down to the party, but was forced to make an over-hasty exit due to
alcohol-induced illness. Sadly, (and here is the B&S content) I had to
leave before I could sway in the style of the truly rhythmless to 'We Rule
the School.' It was my only musical request at a party where the theme was
'High School Homecoming'. I was not elected king. I lost my cranberry
sweater vest on the way home.
Sunday I spent mainly in bed, but ventured out in the late afternoon to
visit Ikea with my roommate. We bought a rug, and once at home, I swept and
washed the floors in celebration of its arrival. I then commuted via train
into work. I worked so late that the trains had stopped running when I was
ready to leave. I spent the night in bed with my ex-girlfriend, fighting
platonically over the covers.
Surmise what you will about my life, but feel free to email me your
inferences. My name is Ted and I live in Chicago.
tew
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And it says "I burn."
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From shoegazer1999 at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 04:45:03 1999
From: shoegazer1999 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Gabriela=20Sampaio?=)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:45:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: My bip bopping days ain't over...
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Dear listees...
It's been so long since I posted last that I am not
sure how to do it again....hehe
I just wanted to share a moment of happiness with
you... I played as a DJ last Sunday and I included
"she's losing it" and gentle waves' "weathershow" in
my playlist and I was delighted to see everybody on
the dancefloor!!
Isn't it great?
XXX
gabi
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From pixiemeat2 at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 08:26:03 1999
From: pixiemeat2 at xxx.com (Helen)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:26:03 GMT
Subject: Sinister: makes no difference who you are...
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I saw Mercury Rev on the tele (Oz TV... because I live with the wizard) the
other night and they did (quite a fine) cover of 'when you wish upon a
star'. And a Dylan cover as well, He was a friend (of mine?).
Interesting. Does covering a Disney song make you less cool? Because I'm
sure it has been done many times before. (or even covering Bob Dylan,
(although almost every band has done that), to those Dylan haters out there,
although I like the man myself).
(I think I am the winner of how many brackets you can use in a paragraph)
Maybe it makes you more cool, like a 'I don't give a stuff about coolness'
cool. Soon we'll have B&S covering the theme from Pocahontas and the Beta
band doing a 6 minute experimental piece of Beauty and the Beast. But is
there a ''I don't give a stuff about coolness' cool' cool. And if so where
does it stop? Is there a limit to what is anti-cool and therefore 'hip', as
opposed to things that are so not hip that there is no way that they can
become cool.
Don't worry I don't understand that sentence very much either.
Personally I really don't give a stuff, because:
1) coolness, non-coolness it's all relative
2) I quite liked Pinocchio anyway
3) and lastly because I'm taking the piss out of those people and
establishments who like to draw lines in the fickle world of entertainment,
(I mean by saying this band is cool, but that band isn't, they make it such
a thin line when really there isn't one at all. Because as soon as you draw
a line in the sands of entertainment, then a wave of popular opinion comes
in and washes it away and you have to start again.... now you see why I
never did English because my metaphors are crap. Ha.)
but what I can tell you for certain is that I spend way too much time in
transit every day and have nothing to do except wonder and laugh at stupid
shit like this.
Helen
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From pcxas at xxx.uk Wed Oct 13 10:49:19 1999
From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:49:19 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: Poesia eres tu
Message-ID:
Press articles and reviews based on celebrities is going too far.One
cannot open a so-called serious paper without finding Steve Trousse and
Tara'shenanigans in their pages, everyday.And in the end I don't know if
he was stripping in front of pubescent princes or she was slagged off
because of her lyrical taste.Media just confuse my waif-like mind.
All I could really 'absorb' from poetry and lyrics later scandal, it was
that Deborah Whoever,feature writer of the year,fancied Andrew Motion
because of his posh navy blue coat.Fair enough.After my pleasant reading
of some verses in my mother tongue sent by lovely Giita ( I want to go to
Iceland more than ever,after my housemate's holidays ...!!!),might I add
humbly my two pences to the discussion???Language makes a radical
difference.Try to translate anything being true poetry (even something
painted by furious demonstrators on a wall)and it would get irreversebly
damaged somehow.
And sorry for being so conventional,but I consider 'angels' second
position and even 'Imagine' first position slightly embarrasing,being the
most embarrasing of it all the somehow official opinion of 'Bohemian
Rapsody' should have made it much better!
70's Who,that classical of this list: I ignore if Mr Miller would know
about Houston Party Records, the recently founded label managed by Jaume
from Parkinson DC in Barna, and so baptised after the orgiastic bash
organised by the WHo during some American tour or so.According to the
manager, that party simbolised all the rock mythology.Very deep.Especially
for a power pop label owned by Posies' best chums.
Once again, anyone up for Airport Girl and Butterflies of Love tomorrow
night in NOttingham? Mail me privately.
xxxx
Arantxa
PS I had never written before in any message 'mail me privately'.It sounds
so naughty.
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From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 11:55:18 1999
From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE DICKIE)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 03:55:18 PDT
Subject: Sinister: I'M DEAD ART
Message-ID: <19991013105518.51239.qmail@hotmail.com>
WHEN YOU CAN'T SEE THE POINT TO ANYTHING
YOU HAVE NO POINT TO MAKE
G
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From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Wed Oct 13 12:01:00 1999
From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:01:00 +0100
Subject: Sinister: I shot the sheriff... but 'e was a stealin' me apples!
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Message-ID:
Helen wrote:
> I saw Mercury Rev on the tele (Oz TV... because I live with the wizard) the
> other night and they did (quite a fine) cover of 'when you wish upon a
> star'. And a Dylan cover as well, He was a friend (of mine?).
> Interesting. Does covering a Disney song make you less cool?
I once travelled to Boston, England in a little car, with my
American friend, listening to his greatest hits tape. He was from
California, USA, and lived out of a rucksack, and as such had only
brought this one tape with him. It was a mixture of Bruce
Springsteen and Disney Classics, and he sang along to it all the
way. Um, this is just an anecdote really, I've just realised it doesn't
actually have a point. On the way we passed a town called Elton and
we wished that John had come cos it would have made a funny
photo.
I got some tickets for Nalda Said in Nottingham yesterday
and the girl behind the counter said something to the effect that we
didn't really need them because no-one was going. She was a
moody tart, though. I think she'd missed her vocation in the fish and
chip shop.
Have I ever said how I used to think it was my vocation to be
a vicar? Does anyone else think that people are really made to do
certain jobs and mostly choose the wrong ones? I do. It's like hands
and gloves. I bought some gloves and a hat from an honest market
trader last week, after he convinced me that they were the finest
quality, and selling like hot cakes, guv'nor. The hat was quite nice,
so I bought them. When I got home I found I had been flogged two
left-handed gloves! Honest market trader, my arse! So now I don't
like the hat so much either because it brings back ugly memories of
the gloves.
Steve wrote:
> anyone lucky enough to be in toronto today got themselves one
> honey of a fall day, that is for sure. boy was it nice.
Gee, Steve, that's the most American sentence I've ever
seen.
Sarah-san wa kawaii desu. Whatever this means, I think it's
probably appropriate.
Oi! Gimme back me apples!
Robin xxx
PS: This email might be full of strange codes at the beginning and
the end. If it is, it's not my fault. We've been given a new email
programme and I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
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From tjl at xxx.uk Wed Oct 13 11:03:56 1999
From: tjl at xxx.uk (Tim)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 11:03:56 +0100
Subject: Sinister: spicy chicken curry?
References: <199910121844.MAA08218@turtle.esosoft.net>
Message-ID: <000701bf156a$f62ca1a0$070ae392@tjl>
Well this'll be only the second or third time I've posted, and I'm not
really sure why I'm posting now, but as I'm not at work and I've had the
time to read all the emails for once, I thought I'd just waffle for a bit.
No, it is my third time I've posted I'm sure. The second time was to see if
anyone had recorded a live performance by Teenage Fanclub on the evening
session, and some delightful person had done. Nice girl. Can't remember her
name though. Oops.
B and S content: Hmm.....not sure on this one, but I was thinking only
yesterday that I don't really know many people who like Belle and Sebastien
apart from people on the internet. Well, maybe not quite true....a couple of
people at work do, but these are odd scary people who live in like
underground tunnels.
But I did manage to convert my girlfriend to them. Well, to If You're
Feeling Sinister and Tigermilk anyway, as TBWTAS didn't go down too well. It
was a bit of a struggle mind, as I had to make her leave her Gabrielle and
Whitney Houston cd's alone for a bit. I'm not happy now though, as she's
nicked Grand Prix and HMS Fable off me, and doesn't want to give them back,
so I have to listen to them round her house. She did say I could take the
Marion cd back though. An acquired taste no doubt. But she did buy me The
La's album, and I have her cuddly gorilla. All is not lost.
Lucksmiths albums: I now have some, and they are very good. Don't think
anything else needs to be said about these.
Can anyone help me with trying to find some stuff by Out Of My Hair? I've
only heard two singles (Get Back In The Groove Again and Mr Jones) and quite
liked them, but can't find anything by them anywhere.
I still like Local Boy In The Photograph by The Stereophonics.
Inbetween the munching on pot noodles and such like on a break, a few of us
were struggling to work out who was cooler. On the on hand there was The
Fonz...Aaiiiieeee, and then there was Hannibal from the A Team taking the
cigar out of his mouth and saying 'I love it when a plan comes together'.
Due to this I have been struggling to sleep over the last few days. Either
that or I haven't really gone to bed.
Anyway
Tim
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From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 13:58:37 1999
From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael Barrett)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:58:37 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Re: hey all!
References: <19991013123054.8317.qmail@rsinternet.com>
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I think this was meant for all of us...
----- Original Message -----
From: Shelly P
To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:30 PM
Subject: hey all!
> just wanted to pass on a good belle and sebastian link...
>
> it's for a rare mp3. does anyone know when this was recorded?
>
>
> http://www.usounds.com/daily.htm
>
> enjoy!
>
> shelly p
>
>
>
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From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Wed Oct 13 14:21:13 1999
From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:21:13 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Is poetry P!A!P!?
Message-ID: <80256809.00495FAB.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk>
Keith wrote some stuff about a great big party at the 13th Note this Friday for
people who like REAL MUSIC. Sounds like the new Knebworth. I can't wait! I'm
going to Glasgow for a conference this weekend you see, and was wondering what
to do with myself. Now I know.
Helen was wondering about what kind of cool it was to cover a Disney song.
Well, I don't think it's cool of the 'I don't give a stuff about coolness'
variety. Maybe I think too much about these things, but I think if there was a
time for 'serious artists' covering Disney songs being cool, it was several
years ago. There was a compilation called 'Stay Awake' that came out in about
1989, which is a bit patchy but has some real gems and manages to hang together
pretty well as a whole. Sinead O Connor heavy breathes her way through 'Someday
My Prince Will Come', Tom Waits turns 'Heigh Ho' into an portentous protest
song, and Ringo Starr rounds things off in a kind of White Album 'Goodnight' way
with 'When You Wish Upon A Star'. It's also got Natalie Merchant, the
Replacements and Los Lobos on it. And lots of others - I must dig it out when I
get home. *Anyway* the point is, it might not have reached covering Abba
proportions, but I don't think covering Disney songs for 'ooh - aren't we
unconcerned about what's cool' kudos (props?) really cuts it. Too obvious.
Mind you, covering Abba might be cool in a new 'look, surely we've got over the
kitch thing by now - this is just a brilliant song and we want to sing it' way.
In other new, for those who are confused by all this talk of M. Petits Pantalons
in the papers, here's the story. There's been a fair bit of blathering in the
media of late because the Poetry Society's National Poetry Day had a poll of
'the nation's favourite pop lyric' as one of its strands. 'Imagine' won,
prompting Peter Hitchens to point out that people can't really have listened to
the words properly because the utopia it describes sounds to him like 'bloody
Soviet Russia'. Anyway, in his capacity as hip-to-the-kids spokesperson at the
Poetry Society, Stevie has been wheeled out to address the public on a few
occasions. For example, in last Thursday's Independent, he mewled as follows:
07 Oct 1999 Right of Reply: The co-editor of 'The Message: crossing the
tracks between poetry and pop' replies to David Lister's
criticisms of comparisons between pop lyrics and poetry: The
Independent
By STEPHEN TROUSSE
DAVID LISTER recently rose above the 'postmodern jumble' of debate around
this year's National Poetry Day, and re-asserted critical standards with the
suggestion: 'Steady on, chaps, some of those Oasis lyrics are a bit ropey,
aren't they?'
Maybe it's the function of the columnist to reduce a complex set of ideas to
a quick gag and a bit of moral posturing. But I can't remember anyone ever
suggesting that, say, the Eiffel 65 single should be put on the English
A-level syllabus alongside Carol Ann Duffy. In fact, part of the point of
choosing the theme of this year's National Poetry Day was to open up a
debate that went beyond the tired old face-off between Dylan and Keats or
Percy and Pete Shelley. If the notion of the lyric has historical ambiguity,
what do the two forms have to learn from each other today?
Should we dismiss song lyrics as juvenile doggerel? I have been co-editing a
Poetry Society publication mulling over the whole relationship between
poetry and pop, and the issues are far richer than I had imagined.
Lister suggests that poets are deluding themselves by claiming pop stars as
brothers and sisters. But for those of us who are curious about the life of
language and the pulse of culture, it seems perfectly sensible to consider
the new Magnetic Fields CD in the context of New York School poetry. For
Lister, who seems to have given up on pop music around 1972, this may seem
to be a postmodern jumble. But maybe the real issue here is who gets to
police the borders between high and low culture.
Marc Bolan once said that 'the pop song should be a spell'. A lot of the
time it doesn't even give us cheap magic.
But if there's one thing this National Poetry Day has shown, it's that the
form still has the capacity to infuriate and delight and start arguments.
IND
Comment 2
The Independent
Copyright (C) Newspaper Publishing Plc, 1988-1997
See how casually the prankster manages to slip a gratuitous reference to the
Magnetic Fields into a national newspaper! Personally, I think it's high time
we got around to considering Belle & Sebastian in the context of Glasgow School
poetry. Or Playgroup poetry. Sadly, Stevie then got a bit a kicking from
Charlotte Raven in her weekly column in Tuesday's Guardian. I think she
pictures him as a bit of a precious poetry ponce with a perpetual sniffle.
Which he isn't, of course.
'How Dylan hoaxed the poets'
On pop and the profound
Charlotte Raven
Tuesday October 12, 1999
A great many girls must have voted in last weekend's BBC poll to find the
nation's favourite song lyric. I was surprised by the results, announced on
Saturday, because women tend to think that the kind of music they like is, by
definition, crap and are therefore inclined to leave the qualitative assessments
to the "people who know better" - ie men.
This self-denying ordinance has given men the freedom to define the classic
song. List after tedious list is produced without reference to pop's primary
consumers - a fact which might go some way to explaining why profundity rather
than pleasure is the sine qua non of a classic, and why a song that prompts
website discussions about its meaning is likely to win hands down over something
that wears its significance more lightly.
There are numerous websites devoted to Bohemian Rhapsody. Almost 25 years after
the song's release, people are swapping theses on the origins of "scaramouche"
and correcting each other's spelling of "bismillah". Having visited a few of
these, I am now even prouder than ever of the girls who so unblushingly
suggested that Robbie Williams' Angels is the best song ever written. Their
uncharacteristic faith in their own convictions lent a slightly surreal quality
to the nation's favorite lyric debate. Unprepared as they must have been for
Angels to come in second - ahead of Bohemian Rhapsody, ahead of Yesterday, I am
the Walrus and every other Beatles song - the BBC seemed somewhat embarrassed.
Lavishing praise on Imagine, which it considered a "deserving winner", it
sounded a note of caution over the rest of the list. Anxious to reassure us that
this didn't mean that Angels was good, it emphasised the list's democracy and
praised the British public's "enormously wide tastes in music".
Presumably, this wouldn't have been necessary if Angels had come in 44th and
Queen had performed more respectably. For all its many faults, Bohemian Rhapsody
is still allowed the dignity of being thought of as a proper song. At least it
has some ambition, runs the argument. At least it goes the distance. And at
least it addresses big themes such as life, death, birth, death, life and
fandangos. Angels has nothing to say about fandangos and must therefore be
dismissed as disposable. It wouldn't be considered for inclusion in the Poetry
Society's canon of "poetic" (for which read good) pop lyrics. Like the BBC the
society was keen to distinguish its elevation of a certain kind of pop song from
the impulse which gave Williams his trophy.
Having said from the outset that it wanted to move the debate "beyond the tired
old face-off between Dylan and Keats" it was then faced with the problem of
finding someone else it approved of.
Michael Stipe was mentioned, but not very loudly. The poetry community, if such
a thing exists, generally seemed more concerned with defending itself against
imagined accusations of dumbing down. "I can't remember anyone suggesting that,
say, the Eiffel 65 single should be put on the A-level syllabus alongside Carol
Ann Duffy," wrote Stephen Trousse, concerned to firm-up the boundaries he had
only so recently blurred. Any remaining confusion was cleared up by Andrew
Motion who declared that most pop lyrics are "repetitive and banal" and only
worth discussing en route to the more interesting question of what exactly makes
Bob Dylan an "exception to this general rule". So Keats versus Dylan it was
then.
As the muse-a-thon got underway, it quickly became clear - as it always does -
that this was no high-low debate. Motion hates popular culture and Dylan is only
accepted because, in spite of his popularity, he has dealt with enough fandangos
to be thought of as a serious artist. That is to say that the least appealing
bits of his oeuvre are replete with cod enigmas, rich in impenetrable images and
stuffed to overflowing with big themes. When you are 15, all that crap about
four-legged forest clouds and curfew gulls sounds deep. Dylan's great skill - in
his worst work - is to manage to imply profundity while placing the onus on his
audience to ride with it, or admit their stupidity. It never occurred to me
until recently that lines I knew off by heart were elaborate, well-wrought
hoaxes.
It's easy to see why Dylan is Motion's hero. In a piece he wrote some time ago,
he described how the death of his mother had caused him to look to poetry as a
way to address a number of "unanswerable questions". These were: What is self?
How is it made? Is the weight of love as great as the fact of death? Admitting
that he didn't know (all) the answers (yet) Motion resolved, at that moment, to
approach them by "indirection". The resulting "poetics" could therefore claim
the kudos of confronting big issues head on, while always deferring delivery of
the point. This certainly made life much easier since Motion, like Dylan, has
been able to divert attention away from his interpretive ineptitude by focusing
on the sunlight and the hedgerows rather than the matter in hand. In his TUC
poem, he describes a walk he took along the Thames. We hear about the breeze,
the dust, the clouds, the water, the buttery sun and all manner of other natural
wonders. Motion doubtless wants us to assume that these images are pregnant with
significance, relating to the theme of liberty mentioned en passant towards the
end. I will probably be accused of literalmindedness, but I couldn't make the
connection. Motion's buttery sun, like Dylan's grey flannel dwarf, is an image
with nothing behind it. Both evoke depth yet neither can fulfill its promises.
No wonder he doesn't like pop music. In spite of various brushes with everyday
subject matter (he recently wrote a poem about a passport queue) Motion is on
the side of fandangos. The straightforwardness of proper pop music must sound to
him, rather facile. All that "love me do" and "let me be" and "be with me" - all
those little feelings expressed with such economy. "I met him on a Monday and my
heart stood still" - a phrase which, like the best pop lyrics, surrenders its
meaning without the aid of a dictionary, a degree or an online discussion. This
modesty - the fact that it has no need for indirection - has always made the
genre look slight. Few would claim that Depeche Mode's delightful "I just can't
get enough" - currently revived on the Gap ads, is in any sense a modern
classic. "When I'm with you baby, I go out of my head" is not what you might
call poetic.
But if poetry means describing the boat masts when one of your friends is dying
(as Motion does in his poem about Hughes) or Dylan's masked ball of characters,
or a thousand permutations of bismillah - I'd rather take the low road and leave
the scenic route to them.
© Guardian Newspapers Limited 1999
I hope this has been of interest. Bye now.
Nick xxx
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From jbaze at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 15:03:19 1999
From: jbaze at xxx.com (Josh Baze)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:03:19 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Red Scare
Message-ID: <072439845C05D311A3E90004ACB8B73410D24E@REVEXCHANGE>
hello friends-- a bit from your friendly new merchants, the NME...
why is it that a guy living in kansas, the middle of the great plains, digs
up the dirt from the english papers?
have good days- josh
BELLE & SEBASTIAN's Stuart Murdoch and Chris Geddes will speak at a
conference organised by the Scottish Socialist Party on November 7.
Socialism 2000, a series of debates and workshops on Scottish politics and
culture takes place at Glasgow Caledonian University. Stuart and Chris will
join Francis McDonald (ex Teenage Fanclub now of Shoeshine Records) and
Creeping Bent's Douglas McIntyre to discuss the topic "Do you have to sell
out to succeed in the music industry?"
The SSP is Scotland's newest political party, standing further left than
Labour (which admittedly isn't hard) while rejecting the nationalism of the
SNP. Their first MSP Tommy Sheridan - famed anti-poll tax campaigner -
recently took his seat in the new Scottish Parliament.
Click here for more information on the
SSP and Socialism 2000.
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From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk Wed Oct 13 15:40:10 1999
From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (sweetie)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:40:10 +0100
Subject: Sinister: a day in the life
Message-ID: <007201bf1589$e3f5c1a0$1618883e@anne666theasylum>
hello sinister
how r we all?
im not bad, not bad at all. :)
what a nice day i have had today.
i went into stirling with my best mate.
and we went into virgin.
and to my absolute delight, they played belle and sebastian seeing other
people on the radio. :) (oh doesnt that look quite funny, as if b&s were
seeing other people on the radio!)
so i stayed in the shop till it was finished. but my mate decided she wanted
to go and tried to drag me out the shop by my bag, but i had the power and
the force and i managed to resist.
and then they annouced that stuart david and looper will be making an
appearance in a virgin in glasgow.
then something funny.
i was walking thro the marches and this wee lassie about 5 started pointing
at me and saying 'mummy, mummy look at her!' oh how i laughed at the
ignorence, smallness and shallowness of her young mind!
and then i bought a big issue from an absloutely lovely bloke. ah he was
just lovely, so friendly. we stood and talked to him for 5 mins or so.
he was asking about my piercings then telling us about his mates who r
pierced.
he asked us about ourselves and what we did.
'students?' he asked and how we chuckled inwardly at that. 'no' we replied
'we r still at school!' .'ah well' he said in return 'u look older' and how
very chuffed we were at that. :)
ah he was just lovely. if only all sales persons were as lovely as him. id
be well skint! :)
your friend always,
me, myself and everyone else,
sweetie :)
xox
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From koendcr at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 17:44:01 1999
From: koendcr at xxx.com (Koen De Crock)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:44:01 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Life can be cruel
Message-ID: <19991013164401.30193.qmail@hotmail.com>
What the f*** is this?? I was waiting for the new album to come out in the
autumn, and now I hear it has been postponed till next spring. B+S, give me
some new material, quickly.
Luckily I have bought a great album yesterday, so it eases the pain: "This
is a Pinback CD" by Pinback. It features members of 3 mile pilot. It is
great. It is cool. It is fantastic. Buy it!
El fortito
Let the electronic renaissance live on
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From bfundak at xxx.org Wed Oct 13 17:49:17 1999
From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:49:17 -0400 (EWT)
Subject: Sinister: You've got to make the bastard think he's right
Message-ID:
Hello extended family,
This message is lean on the B & S content--I really have nothing original
to say about the band really.
Last night my mom was having some serious chest pains and thought she
might be having a heart attack. Her boyfriend called up and started acting
like he knew about heart disease. He drives a truck for a living. It got
me thinking about how I hate the way that even though he treats my mother
well, he is often condescending to her because she is a woman. I think
this is a bunch of crap and I told my mom's best friend so; and her best
friend told me that they had a huge blow out about it. But my mom stays
with him because she dreadfully fears being alone--after all my father
abandoned her and she is right in her assumption that her current
boyfriend is a better man than my dad. Because he is, sometimes.
Am I an awful human being for wishing she were with someone beter?
Ultimately it is her choice who she wants to be with, but I think she can
do better than a condescending Christian who uses his beliefs to justify
the domination of women and to put down homosexuals. I understand her
fear of being alone--I've been alone for 3 years--but I sometimes think
that being alone would be better than this.
That Belle and Sebastian is one fantastic band, eh?
Brandt
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From hopkinstim at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 17:58:53 1999
From: hopkinstim at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Hopkins?=)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:58:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: I swear by the look in your eyes
Message-ID: <19991013165853.15246.rocketmail@web1003.mail.yahoo.com>
Hello chums,
44-24-40
Nice statistics, I think. Don't you?
First of all the swearing competition. One or two
people have mailed me ask for clarification on what
exactly the rules are, which suggests that I succeeded
in making my rules the very spitting image of
inside-the-top-of-a-boardgame obfuscation. OK, here's
a digested version:
1. Make me laugh
2. Send me words which would work as swearwords (for
example "Micking Hell" might well work as an expletive
to be used if you had dropped an anvil on your foot,
wheras "There's a wovewy fwuffy wabbit" probably
wouldn't.) Make them Belle and Sebastian related if
you can.
3. That's it.
We have had some entries, but at the same time, Honey
isn't exactly drowning in them. A cesspool of his own
making, perhaps, a lake of naughty sinister words, no.
Remember that the prize is a glorious copy of Stuart
David's latest work of fictive genius. There have
apparently been BIG FIGHTS on the streets of Phuket,
Thailand over ownership of this book. Oh, and I have
prevailed upon Paul to pull some additional copies
from his magic Honey Pants, so you have a good chance
of being a winner. Everyone knows what makes me laugh.
It's easy. Think *puerile*. So come on Sinister kids,
let's get dirty!
Um, sorry.
A couple of other observations from the past few days:
Martin saw fit to ask us all:
>"Aren't gassy men a pain?"
Yes we are, but that fine Bass beer from Burton has
that effect on some of us. Sorry. It could be worse,
it could be Bass beer from Burton and rough cider from
Sidford, Devon, which gives a far more substantial
form of offence. Substantial if not solid, if you see
what I mean. Gassy women are similarly unpleasant, I
find. Gassy dogs are even worse, especially when they
are just old and have lost interest in long walks or
litter trays. Gassy children, however, are fun for all
the family, at the dining table or in front of 'Last
of the Summer Wine' on a Sunday evening. Oooh I can
hear Granny cackling even now.
I cried and cried when Doctor Whatson broke his
silence...
>We ... myself ... Mick Cooke... at the 13th note Cafe
>... King of Glasgow ... rip the "kids" off ... we'll
> get a taxi back home ... Anyone's welcome to come
> along and pay, please do.
It's a sad thing. I've seen it happen before. Look:
> sorry I haven't posted to the
>list for bloody ages, things used to be really
>relaxed in attitude at work,
>but they're not now I'm afraid to say and I can't
>really post from work.
This translates as "I've started hanging around with
the band and I'm too important, famous and just
all-round good to waste my time posting to you lot
now. Oh, and by the way, I'm laughing up my sleeve at
all the half-understood gossip I read here. I know the
truth, of course, but I'm not telling you plebs. And I
saw Stuart Murdoch's pizzle when he was taking a Jimmy
Jago. So I know exactly how big it is. But I'm not
telling you that either."
Come back to us, Keith. We still love you. We miss
you. I promise I won't laugh at you when you stick up
for pathetically bad 1970s World Health Organisation
records. I promise I won't conjure a mental picture of
you as Graham Bonnet singing 'Since You've Been Gone'
with reflective shades framed by a classic Scottish
indiepop bowlcut. Tempting though it may be.
Mark wrote:
>paunchy townies and their barrel-shaped, slightly
>soiled wives (*vast cultural stereotype ahoy, but
>it's largely true, honest*)
I'm having to assume that this was a piece of biting
satire on those listies who persist in referring to
townies and pikeys and the like. Because I can't think
of another reason why someone as pleasant as Mark
would come out with such a nasty-sounding piece of
snobbery. Nice satire, Mark!
I couldn't answer any of the questions on University
Challenge this week, but I swept the board on
'Scrapheap Challenge' and also did very well on
'Watercolour Challenge'. Har.
Well, I guess that's all from me for today. Michele
was right, you know, the Scala on Saturday is
definitely the place to be. See you at the bar.
Cheers
Tim
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From bellezc at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 17:33:25 1999
From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:33:25 PDT
Subject: Sinister: I'm losing it
Message-ID: <19991013163325.25778.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hello people.I'm new.First time I write to the list.I originally come from
Greece but at the moment I'm studying in the uk at Wolverhampton Uni.So a
week ago I completed my B&S record collection by buying TIGERMILK,which I
was expecting for 2 years.The thing is here noone really knows B&S.I go to
english people asking them for bands that come from here and they don't know
them!In Greece B&S are like all the time on the radio and in clubs
etc.Well,not in all clubs but in most of the rock clubs.Please if there is
any person living around Wolver do suggest a nice bar/club that plays rock
music.I can't stand listening to that Down,down song anymore!Is anyone going
to Gomez in Wolver on the 21st?
Well,I wake up every morning,listen to You're just a baby,baby girl and
like wanna go to that park that I see from my window and grab a bottle of
wine,and I'ts gonna be really sunny and I'm gonna be really happy and have a
pic-nic with my friends.Here I is not suuny.Athens is sunny.I miss the
sun.Bye.
ZOE
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From nkrajewski at xxx.uk Wed Oct 13 19:56:21 1999
From: nkrajewski at xxx.uk (Neil Krajewski)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:56:21 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Say something strikingly poignant, poetic or profound
Message-ID: <008401bf15af$3becd4a0$01f9f7c2@p7t6j7>
Hi All,
It's been a while since I posted and sadly it will probably be a while until
I post again. In a cruel twist of fate the college where I reside for most
of my time has now been furnished with the luxury of the internet. 'Great!'
some of you may be thinking, Neil won't be moaning about his phone bills any
longer as he can use the net at taxpayers expense. Well the prospect of
A-Levels next June makes this impossible, but my slightly less consientious
friends having found the URL are proceeding to mock the whole sinister
community which is becoming incresingly demoralising and a special topic of
conversation seems to have been my posts which of course they can all
access. They're all suspicious of me going to 'picnics' as and having read
the posts they are convinced, partially because of the name I presume (will
they ever understand!!!), that sinister is a cult and it does become rather
irritating trying to educate the masses. I used to try and now have just
given up.
Anyway it seems I must now write out of compulsion, not that this is not a
pleasurable way to spend an evening. However having being stuck on the last
train last night after selling T-Shirts for the fabulous Billy Mahonie at
the garage I nearly fell asleep in a court room today and still have many
ways which I must fill this evening, the completion of this post obviously
being the highlight of these. Some of you may have been wondering the
reasoning the title; in my doleful employment which spoils my Saturdays when
bored I often say to our staff (allegedly my colleagues) 'Say something
strikingly, poignant, poetic or profound' and they give me strange looks as
if I have finally lost all grasp of reality, which by that time I probably
have. However tonight it seems that having been passed the poetry parrot by
the lovely Giita (can I come and stay in Iceland in exchange for
compliments, lol ?) it would appear that it is my task to post something
falling into the aforementioned criteria.
Recently I have been devoting my study to the difficulty in balancing
conflicting interests with regards to civil liberties in the UK. My
selection of poetry therefore in some deranged way is linked to this aim;
i.e. the fact that one selection lacks originality is balanced by my
decision to contribute something, admittedly not a very good something, that
I penned myself sometime ago.
The Inevitable
While I was fearing it, it came.
But it came with less of a fear,
Because that fearing it so long
Had almost made it dear.
There is a fitting a dismay,
A fitting a despair
'Tis harder knowing it is due,
Than knowing it is here.
The trying on the upmost,
The morning it is new,
Is terribler than wearing it
A whole existence through
Emily Dickinson
My own written a while ago when I was obsessed with sonnets:
How can a man express his love for thee?
When thou art far from where I must reside.
To write with a pen and paper means a fee;
And behind words one can so easily hide
The feelings that need to be flowing free.
And as time passes tears will be cried,
As whilst waiting, one will think of thee.
But one can one do little for a while,
But sit alone and watch the days fly on by.
Hoping that the next will bring a smile
Rather than yet another lonely sad sigh.
For that day alone I would walk many miles.
But while thou is such a distance away
I must temper each and every passing day.
In this post I've probably contradicted all the principles of the poetry
parrot and mine didn't have a charming story to proceed it (was this
obligatory?), but still I hope that having made an offering I can now hereby
pass the poetry parrot on to....................(struggles from
yawning)......Alex Tobin.
Anyway goodbye for possibly as long as it takes for me to be emancipated
from college or for my friends to find better things to do with their times
Neil (Kadj)
-----Original Message-----
From: sinister-digest
To: sinister-digest at Majordomo.net
Date: 13 October 1999 14:36
Subject: sinister-digest V3 #341
>sinister-digest Wednesday, October 13 1999 Volume 03 : Number 341
>
>
>
>In your latest Sinister digest:
>
> Sinister: Help me make loads of money ["Keith Watson"
Re: Sinister: The gas man and the inflatable cod ["Vince Russell"
Sinister: world keep on turnin'... ["Matthew Dowgert"
Sinister: today's special [Ted Whalen
]
> Sinister: My bip bopping days ain't over...
[=?iso-8859-1?q?Gabriela=20Sa]
> Sinister: makes no difference who you are... ["Helen"
Sinister: Poesia eres tu [Arantxa Sanz
]
> Sinister: I'M DEAD ART ["GEORGE DICKIE"
]
> Sinister: I shot the sheriff... but 'e was a stealin' me apples!
["Robi]
> Sinister: spicy chicken curry? ["Tim"
]
> Sinister: Re: hey all! ["Michael Barrett"
Sinister: Is poetry P!A!P!?
[Nick.Dastoor at guardian.co.uk]
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:28:02 +0100
>From: "Keith Watson"
>Subject: Sinister: Help me make loads of money
>
>Hello all you people - got a quick message for you chaps.
>
>We're running a club in Glasgow (Glasgow's first REAL MUSIC night). It's
>called "In Tune" and it will feature the DJ-ing "talents" of myself, Claire
>Timmins, Mick and Alasdair Cooke (not Alasdair from the list, but Mick (48)
>Cooke's Brother).
>
>It's at the 13th note Cafe on King Street in Glasgow, famously thought to
be
>owned by Bis - who rip the "kids" off by selling fanzines allegedly, at
9:00
>till 12:00 this Friday. Inspired by Bis's alleged activity, we plan to
>fleece everyone who enters by the sum of 1 pound sterling, which we'll use
>to get a taxi back home again after the club, leaving all the poor kids to
>freeze to death in the Glasgow night.
>
>We're gonna be playing any sort of music really, just anything that's good,
>and if it goes down well, we'll do another night. It's supposed to just be
>like a great big party.
>
>Anyone's welcome to come along and pay a pound, please do.
>
>
>Anyhow, enough of that rampant capitalism, sorry I haven't posted to the
>list for bloody ages, things used to be really relaxed in attitude at work,
>but they're not now I'm afraid to say and I can't really post from work.
>
>Nice to see Sarah mentioning monkeys whom I still believe are the new rock
>and roll - to back this up, this months Viz (which is a comic, and as we
all
>well know, comedy is the old new rock and roll) contains an advert for
>Monkey Fags, which contains 0.01% Nicotine, and 3.6% Banana! - rock and
>roll.
>
>Peter, lovely to hear your Barry Sheene exploits. I once met Fish - he was
>funny, he put this really fake broad Scottish accent on so as to appear
>harder than he actually is. Actually, that reminds me, may have said this
>one before but, my old flatmate met Fish on Victoria Street in Edinburgh
>once, he said "Oh, it's Fish", and Fish went "Fuck off". I once met Chancer
>from City Lights in the pub too, I went "Hey - it's Gerard Kelly, you're
the
>funny man, from the telly" and he went "No, it's Andy Gray".
>
>Cheers,
> Keith.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 21:52:14 +0100
>From: "Vince Russell"
>Subject: Re: Sinister: The gas man and the inflatable cod
>
>Well hello everyone,
>
>The exploits of Steve will live on, I have evidence that he still lives,
>great news huh? To continue the saga, Steve was last seen in a club in
>Fulham, having a really great time I have to add, I woke the next day with
>no sign of my piscean friend anywhere, so I presumed him dead, I have been
>in mourning ever since. And then came a phone call, late last night, now I
>know what your going to say and I won't worry because I've translated
>Steve's transcript in English,
>
>Steve : Hi is Vince there?
>Vince : Speaking
>S : Hi Vince, it's Steve!
>V : Steve? Is this some sort of joke?
>S : No, it's me Steve the Fish
>V : I thought you'd...you know...passed on
>S : No no, when you left I was getting passionate with a girl called Susie
>from Worcester
>V : What?
>S : She was really nice...and...well...we've decided to get married and
tour
>the world
>V : WHAT!!!!
>S : I'm sorry if this is a bit of a shock to you, but...
>V : Bloody right it's a shock, you're a fish!
>S : Racist bastard!
>V : What? How am I racist?
>S : Well, you said I couldn't travel the world because i'm a fish!
>V : An inflatable fish I might add
>S : Look, I called to see if you were all right with this but I can see i'm
>wasting my...
>V : Steve, Steve, look, i'm sorry, i'm just really surprised, and i'll
>like...you know...miss you
>S : I'll be back, and don't worry i'll write to you
>V : When do you leave?
>S : Tonight
>V : Take care Steve, say Hi to Susie for me
>S : Bye Vince.
>V : Bye Steve
>
>So Steve has gone, but has not died, to all those on the list who live
>outside the UK, if you see Steve say Hi from me, he's a good guy, and
>according to Steve's brother, Jonathan, Susie's a great girl also.
>
>And me? i'll be fine, I have my eye on a very nice small plastic hedgehog
>called Andrea.
>
>Bye for now,
>
>Vince.
>
>
>- ----- Original Message -----
>From: Martin Robinson
>To:
>Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 12:57 PM
>Subject: Sinister: The gas man and the inflatable cod
>
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I'm afraid I bring bad news to all those admirers and followers of Steve
>> the inflatable fish. He is missing presumed dead after having several
>> drinks and then being passed round the dancefloor, a bit like Owen Meany
>> in Sunday school, of a small club in trendy Fulham. Rumours of an
>> inflatable Crimewatch special, as of yet, are unfounded. The Wake is
>> presently being delayed in case his deflated remains are found. The
>> saddest part of it all is that I never got the chance to tell him that I
>> loved him really.
>>
>> Anyway, at the absence of anything constructive to say and not wishing
>> to extend the heated Richard Stilgoe debate to the highlights of the
>> career of the amusingly spectacled Cristopher Biggins I shall just
>> continue pointlessly and say: I think Mr Casarotto's spiel on Mr Ken
>> Kesey was more than a bit harsh
>>
>> >What a grade A cunt that Ken
>> >Kesey must be! And Pete's letter just made me spit bile - his account
>> of
>> >Kesey's experiments is all the evidence I need for the introduction of
>> >compulsory lobotomies for anyone who thinks any thoughts they have
>> while
>> >tripping are worth foisting on anyone else. Very big and clever you sad
>> old
>> >men.
>>
>> Wasn't Kesey was paid by the American government to take LSD? As they
>> had no idea what effect it had. He then, being of an open mind, began
>> experimenting with it and passing it on to all his mates. LSD had no
>> history at this point, so they weren't to know that it would be
>> responsible for a load of hippies walking round going "Wow man!". So in
>> conclusion everything is the fault of the American government, quelle
>> surprise, and it is probably they who are the "grade A cunt"'s.
>>
>> Aren't gassy men a pain? The bloke came to replace the pump on my
>> central heating yesterday and then in the evening I get water coming
>> through the kitchen. Apparently he damaged the gas cylinder making it
>> leak, so they drained that and now have to replace to it. Consequently I
>> have no hot water and the only thing heated in my abode was the
>> conversation I had with the gas board to get it fixed quickly. What a
>> bunch of "grade A cunt"'s they are (I can use this nasty word all the
>> time now and just say I'm quoting that foul mouthed fouler Casarotto).
>> Anyway can I start a new list of recommended domestic heating service
>> providers? Go electric kids you won't regret it.
>>
>> Time to conclude this tedium as there's a pint with my name on it.
>>
>> Te ra,
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> ear confection recordings
>> (http://www.send.demon.co.uk)
>>
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 19:16:03 -0400
>From: "Matthew Dowgert"
>Subject: Sinister: world keep on turnin'...
>
>i'm in a computer lab at school, writing a paper and listening to stevie =
>wonder, innervisions cd and damn if it's not fucking awesome. stevie =
>rocks, he plays all the instruments on a bunch of the songs. and he's =
>blind. damn. i mean, i knew he was blind, and i knew he was cool, but =
>all i heard before was superstition, an awesome song, but i thought that =
>it might just be his best and the rest might not be too great. but heck, =
>he proved me an ignorant fool, because this whole cd is fantabulous.
>
>just as 3...6..9 seconds of light is fantabulous.
>
>just as my mom's apple pie is fantabulous.
>
>just as a new pair of socks is fantabulous.
>
>just as the end of this e is fantabulous.
>
>matthew francis dowgert
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 21:18:29 -0500
>From: Ted Whalen
>Subject: Sinister: today's special
>
>This message is by way of introduction. I think perhaps a summary of the
>events of this weekend will serve as a primer to my life and the state that
>I'm in.
>
>Saturday, as I was on my way to a party thrown by people I don't especially
>like, I stopped at the local bar for a bite and a pint. It seems like
>everyone at the bar conspired to make me staggeringly drunk. I stumbled
>down to the party, but was forced to make an over-hasty exit due to
>alcohol-induced illness. Sadly, (and here is the B&S content) I had to
>leave before I could sway in the style of the truly rhythmless to 'We Rule
>the School.' It was my only musical request at a party where the theme was
>'High School Homecoming'. I was not elected king. I lost my cranberry
>sweater vest on the way home.
>
>Sunday I spent mainly in bed, but ventured out in the late afternoon to
>visit Ikea with my roommate. We bought a rug, and once at home, I swept
and
>washed the floors in celebration of its arrival. I then commuted via train
>into work. I worked so late that the trains had stopped running when I was
>ready to leave. I spent the night in bed with my ex-girlfriend, fighting
>platonically over the covers.
>
>Surmise what you will about my life, but feel free to email me your
>inferences. My name is Ted and I live in Chicago.
>
>tew
>- --
> And it says "I burn."
> Ted Whalen - tew at introvert.net
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:45:03 -0700 (PDT)
>From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Gabriela=20Sampaio?=
>Subject: Sinister: My bip bopping days ain't over...
>
>Dear listees...
>
>It's been so long since I posted last that I am not
>sure how to do it again....hehe
>
>I just wanted to share a moment of happiness with
>you... I played as a DJ last Sunday and I included
>"she's losing it" and gentle waves' "weathershow" in
>my playlist and I was delighted to see everybody on
>the dancefloor!!
>
>Isn't it great?
>
>XXX
>
>gabi
>
>
>
>
>=====
>
>__________________________________________________
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:26:03 GMT
>From: "Helen"
>Subject: Sinister: makes no difference who you are...
>
>I saw Mercury Rev on the tele (Oz TV... because I live with the wizard) the
>other night and they did (quite a fine) cover of 'when you wish upon a
>star'. And a Dylan cover as well, He was a friend (of mine?).
>Interesting. Does covering a Disney song make you less cool? Because I'm
>sure it has been done many times before. (or even covering Bob Dylan,
>(although almost every band has done that), to those Dylan haters out
there,
>although I like the man myself).
>
>(I think I am the winner of how many brackets you can use in a paragraph)
>
>Maybe it makes you more cool, like a 'I don't give a stuff about coolness'
>cool. Soon we'll have B&S covering the theme from Pocahontas and the Beta
>band doing a 6 minute experimental piece of Beauty and the Beast. But is
>there a ''I don't give a stuff about coolness' cool' cool. And if so where
>does it stop? Is there a limit to what is anti-cool and therefore 'hip', as
>opposed to things that are so not hip that there is no way that they can
>become cool.
>
>Don't worry I don't understand that sentence very much either.
>
>Personally I really don't give a stuff, because:
>1) coolness, non-coolness it's all relative
>2) I quite liked Pinocchio anyway
>3) and lastly because I'm taking the piss out of those people and
>establishments who like to draw lines in the fickle world of entertainment,
>(I mean by saying this band is cool, but that band isn't, they make it such
>a thin line when really there isn't one at all. Because as soon as you draw
>a line in the sands of entertainment, then a wave of popular opinion comes
>in and washes it away and you have to start again.... now you see why I
>never did English because my metaphors are crap. Ha.)
>
>but what I can tell you for certain is that I spend way too much time in
>transit every day and have nothing to do except wonder and laugh at stupid
>shit like this.
>
>Helen
>
>______________________________________________________
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:49:19 +0100 (BST)
>From: Arantxa Sanz
>Subject: Sinister: Poesia eres tu
>
>Press articles and reviews based on celebrities is going too far.One
>cannot open a so-called serious paper without finding Steve Trousse and
>Tara'shenanigans in their pages, everyday.And in the end I don't know if
>he was stripping in front of pubescent princes or she was slagged off
>because of her lyrical taste.Media just confuse my waif-like mind.
>
>
>All I could really 'absorb' from poetry and lyrics later scandal, it was
>that Deborah Whoever,feature writer of the year,fancied Andrew Motion
>because of his posh navy blue coat.Fair enough.After my pleasant reading
>of some verses in my mother tongue sent by lovely Giita ( I want to go to
>Iceland more than ever,after my housemate's holidays ...!!!),might I add
>humbly my two pences to the discussion???Language makes a radical
>difference.Try to translate anything being true poetry (even something
>painted by furious demonstrators on a wall)and it would get irreversebly
>damaged somehow.
>
>
>And sorry for being so conventional,but I consider 'angels' second
>position and even 'Imagine' first position slightly embarrasing,being the
>most embarrasing of it all the somehow official opinion of 'Bohemian
>Rapsody' should have made it much better!
>
>70's Who,that classical of this list: I ignore if Mr Miller would know
>about Houston Party Records, the recently founded label managed by Jaume
>from Parkinson DC in Barna, and so baptised after the orgiastic bash
>organised by the WHo during some American tour or so.According to the
>manager, that party simbolised all the rock mythology.Very deep.Especially
>for a power pop label owned by Posies' best chums.
>
>Once again, anyone up for Airport Girl and Butterflies of Love tomorrow
>night in NOttingham? Mail me privately.
>
>xxxx
>
>Arantxa
>
>
>PS I had never written before in any message 'mail me privately'.It sounds
>so naughty.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 03:55:18 PDT
>From: "GEORGE DICKIE"
>Subject: Sinister: I'M DEAD ART
>
> WHEN YOU CAN'T SEE THE POINT TO ANYTHING
>
>
> YOU HAVE NO POINT TO MAKE
>
>
> G
>
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:01:00 +0100
>From: "Robin Stout"
>Subject: Sinister: I shot the sheriff... but 'e was a stealin' me apples!
>
>Helen wrote:
>
>> I saw Mercury Rev on the tele (Oz TV... because I live with the wizard)
the
>> other night and they did (quite a fine) cover of 'when you wish upon a
>> star'. And a Dylan cover as well, He was a friend (of mine?).
>> Interesting. Does covering a Disney song make you less cool?
>
> I once travelled to Boston, England in a little car, with my
>American friend, listening to his greatest hits tape. He was from
>California, USA, and lived out of a rucksack, and as such had only
>brought this one tape with him. It was a mixture of Bruce
>Springsteen and Disney Classics, and he sang along to it all the
>way. Um, this is just an anecdote really, I've just realised it doesn't
>actually have a point. On the way we passed a town called Elton and
>we wished that John had come cos it would have made a funny
>photo.
> I got some tickets for Nalda Said in Nottingham yesterday
>and the girl behind the counter said something to the effect that we
>didn't really need them because no-one was going. She was a
>moody tart, though. I think she'd missed her vocation in the fish and
>chip shop.
> Have I ever said how I used to think it was my vocation to be
>a vicar? Does anyone else think that people are really made to do
>certain jobs and mostly choose the wrong ones? I do. It's like hands
>and gloves. I bought some gloves and a hat from an honest market
>trader last week, after he convinced me that they were the finest
>quality, and selling like hot cakes, guv'nor. The hat was quite nice,
>so I bought them. When I got home I found I had been flogged two
>left-handed gloves! Honest market trader, my arse! So now I don't
>like the hat so much either because it brings back ugly memories of
>the gloves.
>
>Steve wrote:
>
>> anyone lucky enough to be in toronto today got themselves one
>> honey of a fall day, that is for sure. boy was it nice.
>
> Gee, Steve, that's the most American sentence I've ever
>seen.
>
> Sarah-san wa kawaii desu. Whatever this means, I think it's
>probably appropriate.
>
> Oi! Gimme back me apples!
>
> Robin xxx
>
>PS: This email might be full of strange codes at the beginning and
>the end. If it is, it's not my fault. We've been given a new email
>programme and I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 11:03:56 +0100
>From: "Tim"
>Subject: Sinister: spicy chicken curry?
>
>Well this'll be only the second or third time I've posted, and I'm not
>really sure why I'm posting now, but as I'm not at work and I've had the
>time to read all the emails for once, I thought I'd just waffle for a bit.
>
>No, it is my third time I've posted I'm sure. The second time was to see if
>anyone had recorded a live performance by Teenage Fanclub on the evening
>session, and some delightful person had done. Nice girl. Can't remember her
>name though. Oops.
>
>B and S content: Hmm.....not sure on this one, but I was thinking only
>yesterday that I don't really know many people who like Belle and Sebastien
>apart from people on the internet. Well, maybe not quite true....a couple
of
>people at work do, but these are odd scary people who live in like
>underground tunnels.
>
>But I did manage to convert my girlfriend to them. Well, to If You're
>Feeling Sinister and Tigermilk anyway, as TBWTAS didn't go down too well.
It
>was a bit of a struggle mind, as I had to make her leave her Gabrielle and
>Whitney Houston cd's alone for a bit. I'm not happy now though, as she's
>nicked Grand Prix and HMS Fable off me, and doesn't want to give them back,
>so I have to listen to them round her house. She did say I could take the
>Marion cd back though. An acquired taste no doubt. But she did buy me The
>La's album, and I have her cuddly gorilla. All is not lost.
>
>Lucksmiths albums: I now have some, and they are very good. Don't think
>anything else needs to be said about these.
>
>Can anyone help me with trying to find some stuff by Out Of My Hair? I've
>only heard two singles (Get Back In The Groove Again and Mr Jones) and
quite
>liked them, but can't find anything by them anywhere.
>
>I still like Local Boy In The Photograph by The Stereophonics.
>
>Inbetween the munching on pot noodles and such like on a break, a few of us
>were struggling to work out who was cooler. On the on hand there was The
>Fonz...Aaiiiieeee, and then there was Hannibal from the A Team taking the
>cigar out of his mouth and saying 'I love it when a plan comes together'.
>
>Due to this I have been struggling to sleep over the last few days. Either
>that or I haven't really gone to bed.
>
>Anyway
>
>Tim
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:58:37 +0100
>From: "Michael Barrett"
>Subject: Sinister: Re: hey all!
>
>I think this was meant for all of us...
>- ----- Original Message -----
>From: Shelly P
>To:
>Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:30 PM
>Subject: hey all!
>
>
>> just wanted to pass on a good belle and sebastian link...
>>
>> it's for a rare mp3. does anyone know when this was recorded?
>>
>>
>> http://www.usounds.com/daily.htm
>>
>> enjoy!
>>
>> shelly p
>>
>>
>>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:21:13 +0100
>From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk
>Subject: Sinister: Is poetry P!A!P!?
>
>Keith wrote some stuff about a great big party at the 13th Note this Fr=
>iday for
>people who like REAL MUSIC. Sounds like the new Knebworth. I can't wa=
>it! I'm
>going to Glasgow for a conference this weekend you see, and was wonderi=
>ng what
>to do with myself. Now I know.
>
>Helen was wondering about what kind of cool it was to cover a Disney so=
>ng.
>Well, I don't think it's cool of the 'I don't give a stuff about coolne=
>ss'
>variety. Maybe I think too much about these things, but I think if the=
>re was a
>time for 'serious artists' covering Disney songs being cool, it was sev=
>eral
>years ago. There was a compilation called 'Stay Awake' that came out i=
>n about
>1989, which is a bit patchy but has some real gems and manages to hang =
>together
>pretty well as a whole. Sinead O Connor heavy breathes her way through=
> 'Someday
>My Prince Will Come', Tom Waits turns 'Heigh Ho' into an portentous pro=
>test
>song, and Ringo Starr rounds things off in a kind of White Album 'Goodn=
>ight' way
>with 'When You Wish Upon A Star'. It's also got Natalie Merchant, the
>Replacements and Los Lobos on it. And lots of others - I must dig it o=
>ut when I
>get home. *Anyway* the point is, it might not have reached covering Ab=
>ba
>proportions, but I don't think covering Disney songs for 'ooh - aren't =
>we
>unconcerned about what's cool' kudos (props?) really cuts it. Too obvi=
>ous.
>Mind you, covering Abba might be cool in a new 'look, surely we've got =
>over the
>kitch thing by now - this is just a brilliant song and we want to sing =
>it' way.
>
>In other new, for those who are confused by all this talk of M. Petits =
>Pantalons
>in the papers, here's the story. There's been a fair bit of blathering=
> in the
>media of late because the Poetry Society's National Poetry Day had a po=
>ll of
>'the nation's favourite pop lyric' as one of its strands. 'Imagine' w=
>on,
>prompting Peter Hitchens to point out that people can't really have lis=
>tened to
>the words properly because the utopia it describes sounds to him like '=
>bloody
>Soviet Russia'. Anyway, in his capacity as hip-to-the-kids spokesperso=
>n at the
>Poetry Society, Stevie has been wheeled out to address the public on a =
>few
>occasions. For example, in last Thursday's Independent, he mewled as f=
>ollows:
>
> 07 Oct 1999 Right of Reply: The co-editor of 'The Message: crossing =
>the
> tracks between poetry and pop' replies to David Liste=
>r's
> criticisms of comparisons between pop lyrics and poet=
>ry: The
> Independent
>
> By STEPHEN TROUSSE
>DAVID LISTER recently rose above the 'postmodern jumble' of debate arou=
>nd
>this year's National Poetry Day, and re-asserted critical standards wit=
>h the
>suggestion: 'Steady on, chaps, some of those Oasis lyrics are a bit rop=
>ey,
>aren't they?'
>Maybe it's the function of the columnist to reduce a complex set of ide=
>as to
>a quick gag and a bit of moral posturing. But I can't remember anyone e=
>ver
>suggesting that, say, the Eiffel 65 single should be put on the English=
>
>A-level syllabus alongside Carol Ann Duffy. In fact, part of the point =
>of
>choosing the theme of this year's National Poetry Day was to open up a
>debate that went beyond the tired old face-off between Dylan and Keats =
>or
>Percy and Pete Shelley. If the notion of the lyric has historical ambig=
>uity,
>what do the two forms have to learn from each other today?
>Should we dismiss song lyrics as juvenile doggerel? I have been co-edit=
>ing a
>Poetry Society publication mulling over the whole relationship between
>poetry and pop, and the issues are far richer than I had imagined.
>Lister suggests that poets are deluding themselves by claiming pop star=
>s as
>brothers and sisters. But for those of us who are curious about the lif=
>e of
>language and the pulse of culture, it seems perfectly sensible to consi=
>der
>the new Magnetic Fields CD in the context of New York School poetry. Fo=
>r
>Lister, who seems to have given up on pop music around 1972, this may s=
>eem
>to be a postmodern jumble. But maybe the real issue here is who gets to=
>
>police the borders between high and low culture.
>Marc Bolan once said that 'the pop song should be a spell'. A lot of th=
>e
>time it doesn't even give us cheap magic.
>But if there's one thing this National Poetry Day has shown, it's that =
>the
>form still has the capacity to infuriate and delight and start argument=
>s.
>IND
>Comment 2
>
>The Independent
>Copyright (C) Newspaper Publishing Plc, 1988-1997
>
>
>See how casually the prankster manages to slip a gratuitous reference t=
>o the
>Magnetic Fields into a national newspaper! Personally, I think it's hi=
>gh time
>we got around to considering Belle & Sebastian in the context of Glasgo=
>w School
>poetry. Or Playgroup poetry. Sadly, Stevie then got a bit a kicking f=
>rom
>Charlotte Raven in her weekly column in Tuesday's Guardian. I think s=
>he
>pictures him as a bit of a precious poetry ponce with a perpetual sniff=
>le.
>Which he isn't, of course.
>
>'How Dylan hoaxed the poets'
>On pop and the profound
>Charlotte Raven
>Tuesday October 12, 1999
>A great many girls must have voted in last weekend's BBC poll to find t=
>he
>nation's favourite song lyric. I was surprised by the results, announce=
>d on
>Saturday, because women tend to think that the kind of music they like =
>is, by
>definition, crap and are therefore inclined to leave the qualitative as=
>sessments
>to the "people who know better" - ie men.
>This self-denying ordinance has given men the freedom to define the cla=
>ssic
>song. List after tedious list is produced without reference to pop's pr=
>imary
>consumers - a fact which might go some way to explaining why profundity=
> rather
>than pleasure is the sine qua non of a classic, and why a song that pro=
>mpts
>website discussions about its meaning is likely to win hands down over =
>something
>that wears its significance more lightly.
>There are numerous websites devoted to Bohemian Rhapsody. Almost 25 yea=
>rs after
>the song's release, people are swapping theses on the origins of "scara=
>mouche"
>and correcting each other's spelling of "bismillah". Having visited a f=
>ew of
>these, I am now even prouder than ever of the girls who so unblushingly=
>
>suggested that Robbie Williams' Angels is the best song ever written. T=
>heir
>uncharacteristic faith in their own convictions lent a slightly surreal=
> quality
>to the nation's favorite lyric debate. Unprepared as they must have bee=
>n for
>Angels to come in second - ahead of Bohemian Rhapsody, ahead of Yesterd=
>ay, I am
>the Walrus and every other Beatles song - the BBC seemed somewhat embar=
>rassed.
>Lavishing praise on Imagine, which it considered a "deserving winner", =
>it
>sounded a note of caution over the rest of the list. Anxious to reassur=
>e us that
>this didn't mean that Angels was good, it emphasised the list's democra=
>cy and
>praised the British public's "enormously wide tastes in music".
>Presumably, this wouldn't have been necessary if Angels had come in 44t=
>h and
>Queen had performed more respectably. For all its many faults, Bohemian=
> Rhapsody
>is still allowed the dignity of being thought of as a proper song. At l=
>east it
>has some ambition, runs the argument. At least it goes the distance. An=
>d at
>least it addresses big themes such as life, death, birth, death, life a=
>nd
>fandangos. Angels has nothing to say about fandangos and must therefore=
> be
>dismissed as disposable. It wouldn't be considered for inclusion in the=
> Poetry
>Society's canon of "poetic" (for which read good) pop lyrics. Like the =
>BBC the
>society was keen to distinguish its elevation of a certain kind of pop =
>song from
>the impulse which gave Williams his trophy.
>Having said from the outset that it wanted to move the debate "beyond t=
>he tired
>old face-off between Dylan and Keats" it was then faced with the proble=
>m of
>finding someone else it approved of.
>Michael Stipe was mentioned, but not very loudly. The poetry community,=
> if such
>a thing exists, generally seemed more concerned with defending itself a=
>gainst
>imagined accusations of dumbing down. "I can't remember anyone suggesti=
>ng that,
>say, the Eiffel 65 single should be put on the A-level syllabus alongsi=
>de Carol
>Ann Duffy," wrote Stephen Trousse, concerned to firm-up the boundaries =
>he had
>only so recently blurred. Any remaining confusion was cleared up by And=
>rew
>Motion who declared that most pop lyrics are "repetitive and banal" and=
> only
>worth discussing en route to the more interesting question of what exac=
>tly makes
>Bob Dylan an "exception to this general rule". So Keats versus Dylan it=
> was
>then.
>As the muse-a-thon got underway, it quickly became clear - as it always=
> does -
>that this was no high-low debate. Motion hates popular culture and Dyla=
>n is only
>accepted because, in spite of his popularity, he has dealt with enough =
>fandangos
>to be thought of as a serious artist. That is to say that the least app=
>ealing
>bits of his oeuvre are replete with cod enigmas, rich in impenetrable i=
>mages and
>stuffed to overflowing with big themes. When you are 15, all that crap =
>about
>four-legged forest clouds and curfew gulls sounds deep. Dylan's great s=
>kill - in
>his worst work - is to manage to imply profundity while placing the onu=
>s on his
>audience to ride with it, or admit their stupidity. It never occurred t=
>o me
>until recently that lines I knew off by heart were elaborate, well-wrou=
>ght
>hoaxes.
>It's easy to see why Dylan is Motion's hero. In a piece he wrote some t=
>ime ago,
>he described how the death of his mother had caused him to look to poet=
>ry as a
>way to address a number of "unanswerable questions". These were: What i=
>s self?
>How is it made? Is the weight of love as great as the fact of death? Ad=
>mitting
>that he didn't know (all) the answers (yet) Motion resolved, at that mo=
>ment, to
>approach them by "indirection". The resulting "poetics" could therefore=
> claim
>the kudos of confronting big issues head on, while always deferring del=
>ivery of
>the point. This certainly made life much easier since Motion, like Dyla=
>n, has
>been able to divert attention away from his interpretive ineptitude by =
>focusing
>on the sunlight and the hedgerows rather than the matter in hand. In hi=
>s TUC
>poem, he describes a walk he took along the Thames. We hear about the b=
>reeze,
>the dust, the clouds, the water, the buttery sun and all manner of othe=
>r natural
>wonders. Motion doubtless wants us to assume that these images are preg=
>nant with
>significance, relating to the theme of liberty mentioned en passant tow=
>ards the
>end. I will probably be accused of literalmindedness, but I couldn't ma=
>ke the
>connection. Motion's buttery sun, like Dylan's grey flannel dwarf, is a=
>n image
>with nothing behind it. Both evoke depth yet neither can fulfill its pr=
>omises.
>No wonder he doesn't like pop music. In spite of various brushes with e=
>veryday
>subject matter (he recently wrote a poem about a passport queue) Motion=
> is on
>the side of fandangos. The straightforwardness of proper pop music must=
> sound to
>him, rather facile. All that "love me do" and "let me be" and "be with =
>me" - all
>those little feelings expressed with such economy. "I met him on a Mond=
>ay and my
>heart stood still" - a phrase which, like the best pop lyrics, surrende=
>rs its
>meaning without the aid of a dictionary, a degree or an online discussi=
>on. This
>modesty - the fact that it has no need for indirection - has always mad=
>e the
>genre look slight. Few would claim that Depeche Mode's delightful "I ju=
>st can't
>get enough" - currently revived on the Gap ads, is in any sense a moder=
>n
>classic. "When I'm with you baby, I go out of my head" is not what you =
>might
>call poetic.
>But if poetry means describing the boat masts when one of your friends =
>is dying
>(as Motion does in his poem about Hughes) or Dylan's masked ball of cha=
>racters,
>or a thousand permutations of bismillah - I'd rather take the low road =
>and leave
>the scenic route to them.
>
>=A9 Guardian Newspapers Limited 1999
>
>I hope this has been of interest. Bye now.
>
>Nick xxx
>=
>
>------------------------------
>
>End of sinister-digest V3 #341
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From dhooper at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 20:51:50 1999
From: dhooper at xxx.com (Dan Hooper)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:51:50 -0700
Subject: Sinister: Maybe I AM loosing it
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Hello kiddies . . .
Hmmmm, new listee Zoe writes . . .
In Greece B&S are like all the time on the radio and in clubs
etc.Well,not in all clubs but in most of the rock clubs . . . Athens
is sunny.
Hmmmm (again), Greece is sunny, in Greece they play B & S on the
radio and in the clubs (though not all clubs), and Greece is the
cradle of the Western Poetic tradition. Sounds like the place to have
the Splinter meet-up of the Millennium (it could be of Olympian
proportions!). Then again, small fragmented gatherings in cold
overcast places where no one knows or understands our obsession and
where "Bohemian Rhapsody" is considered high art (it was the theme
song to Wayne's World for gosh sakes) and mentioned in the same
sentence as Keats is much more to our liking. Hmmmm
I was in Ameboa Records on Haight Street (in San Francisco,
California, (where it is not always as sunny as the travel agents
say)) over the weekend and they were playing IYFS. I asked the clerk
about it, and she said that someone had returned the week before and
it had found its way into their playlist. But it was "defective" it
would have to be removed before the week was out, much to her
disappointment. I smiled.
I have not posted in a while because i have been nursing a bruised
heart. A friend of mine sent me an essay written by a friend of his.
I read the essay, which was about how this girl got into pop music,
and was struck by how closely her story resembled mine (of course
some of the details were different, as were some of the bands she
liked, but the general curve of our stories were amazingly parallel).
So I wrote my friend to tell him this, he passed my gush on to the
girl (without my knowledge), and much to my surprise, she wrote to me.
For the better part of three weeks, we exchanged e-mails, often to
the tune of three or four lengthy ones daily. During that time our
correspondence grew much more personal than just "oh yeah, you like
them too!" or "So who was the first Sino-Japanese band to cover a
Matthew Sweet song in Serbo-Cruasian?" It was beginning to feel
something like "89 Charing Cross Road" or certain Looper songs. And
though we seemed to be spiritually joined at the ear, and were
growing closer and closer emotionally, we were physically living a
few hundred miles apart. Then an opportunity arose.
My job had me traveling to a city very near by this girl, who had
wormed her way into my heart. We made plans to meet-up and spend all
the free time we had on the weekend together exploring the
possibilities of this new strange town. As I arrived in the city a
few days before her, I rang her and we spoke for four or five hours
each of the four nights before she arrived. It would appear that we
were made for each other, soulmates as it were separated only by
distance. We both were very excited at the prospects of meeting each
other. She even told me that I was "too perfect".
And meet we did. But something wasn't right. I think we both tried (I
know I certainly did) to make it work. I had the feeling that the
person I was meeting was not the same person I had been writing to or
that I had spoken to for all those hours. I assumed we were both a
little nervous about meeting, and that things would be better the
following evening. We chattered lightly on the drive back to my
hotel, and at the end, just before she, quite literally, kicked me
to the curb, he asked, rather rhetorically, "We didn't hit it off,
did we?" Before I could answer, I found myself sitting on the curb in
the faded neon glow of a theatre marque, looking up through a cloud
of exhaust at her taillights disappearing into the night.
I made a few valiant attempts to call her the following day, but to
no avail. And upon returning to San Francisco, I send her an e-mail
which remains unanswered. So I'm left wondering how I could go from
being "too perfect" to less than gum beneath her shoe in fewer than
24 hours, and am I such a hideous person in person that I should
restrict my social life to pen-pals and posting to e-mail lists. If
such is the case, so be it. I'll be a manifestation of my words only.
Well, a little wound licking can be a good thing. And as that old
Mexican proverb says, "Those things that don't kill us build
character." Now I'm indebted to our S. Murdock for the perspective
granted by repeated listenings to "I Don't Love Anyone." I can
categorically state: "I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And
doggonit, people like me." But is it wicked not to care . . .?
Thanks for your indulgence. I didn't mean to blather on like this,
but confessions are a bit like cashews: once you start you just can't
stop. I hope there was enough B & S content to pass muster. Oh by the
way, a new pair of cashmere socks goes a long way to mending a
bruised heart.
All the Best
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From zvoruna at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 22:31:36 1999
From: zvoruna at xxx.com (ZvoRunA)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:31:36 -0600
Subject: Sinister: 24 Melted Candles
Message-ID: <4119991031320313646@starmail.com>
dear my sinisters,
i feel like this is more a question for some radio love line.. but.. I
trust you all more (you may blush now.. or skip this entry altogether as
you see fit).
today is my birthday.. and my girlfriend has forgotten it. i am not running
in circles around my room pulling out my hair while smoke pours from my
ears.. but i am kind of sad. we've been together nearly two years. should i
be upset? or am i overreacting?
sure more terrible things in life happen.. natural disaster, disease,
enduring Cheap Trick concerts, etc.. but is this a sign? i wonder if there
have been others that i am in denial about.. dismissing it as mere
thoughtlessness.
oh to be Mayfly.
love
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From zutroy at xxx.org Wed Oct 13 21:31:24 1999
From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:31:24 -0400
Subject: No subject
Message-ID:
I've been listening to tigermilk practically non-stop for the past couple
days. and "we rule the school" keeps making me cry. damn.
so there's my B&S content.
List Crush
someone else voted for me on the list crush site, so now i'm at number 22
on the list. tee hee. thank you mysterious stranger #2, and may as well
thank mysterious stranger #1 who admitted he was the one who voted for me,
as well as sending me that postcard. you're all really too kind.
Drunk and Flirting With Boys (is how i've been spending my weekends)
some of you may recall my drunken post the other night (sunday, i believe),
well i went to yet another party at the same house on monday night (long
weekend, we didn't have classes until today [wednesday]), and once again
flirted with that same boy (seth), and this time when our mutual friend
went to bed, we stayed up. nothing naughty happened, but we did sit awfully
close together (legs touching, etc) and for a while he had his head resting
on my shoulder *sigh*. i went home on shaky legs and collapsed when i got
to my room. it felt magical.
anyway, so that was two nights ago. haven't seen him or really heard from
him, and i'm awfully confused about what the next logical step would be.
our mutual friend has gone back to maryland for her studies at the NIH, so
that little connection is out. I'd feel awkward just going over to hang
out, because i've never done that before. And i'm too impatient to wait
until this weekend when i can just waltz over and say i was looking for a
party.
and another thing -- i'm still not positive he's not dating anybody. last i
checked (about a year ago) he was dating this girl tanya, but i've seen
neither hide nor hair of her anywhere near him (and only once in general)
this semester. so i was wondering if any of you intelligent people could
tell me the best and least awkward way to ask him if he's seeing anybody.
i'm still not sure what's up with him, so i don't know if it would be weird
for me to straight-out say "are you seeing anyone?" or if i should ask
about tanya, etc. because it's entirely possible he's long since broken up
with her but he's seeing someone else now. of course, our mutual friend
must have seen what was going on between us and she never said anything to
me about a girlfriend . . . but i digress.
I Have a Grant Proposal to Write
do any of you know where i can find antibodies to the marA multidrug
resistance efflux pump in e. coli, because i need it for my thesis and i
can't write my grant proposal (or do my thesis) without knowing if it
exists and where to find it. aaaaaaaaaaaack! i think it's high time i start
calling antibody supply companies. this is madness.
well, off to try and write that damn grant proposal. hmph. i wish i didn't
have to, but my stupid thesis is going to cost like $1000 to do, and i
don't have that kind of money just lying around. jerks. i wish i was
studying english or something inexpensive like that.
-kerry
"if acquired characteristics can not be passed on . . . man lives and
suffers in vain. whatever he might have acquired in the course of a
lifetime dies with him."
-paul kannmerer -- in defence of lamarck
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From honey at xxx.net Wed Oct 13 21:57:10 1999
From: honey at xxx.net (Honey)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 21:57:10 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: i bet it woofs too
Message-ID:
My children,
Another bulletin from mummy in the Land of Nod. I've too much here to
say so I'm going to say it v..e..r..y quickly. First off, I
desperately need an Aibo - if you don't know what one is go to
www.aibonet.com and if you DO know then Why Didn't You Tell Me? My
heart is lovesick for Aibo.. they cost $2500. It's a medical condition
I HAVE to have one, you understand.
Secondly on a completely unconnected note, there's going to be a
one-off charge for Sinister membership of, say, $2.17 for all current
list members. Just make cheques payable to "Honey's Aibo Medical
Fund" and send direct Sony.
Other news: Stuart Doobeedoo Murdoch apparently recorded two JAZZ songs
on Monday night in Glasgow for BBC's Beat Room show (the one only
people with Digital TV and presumably transportation machines get).
Yes I know, jazz - he apparently sang a bit with Bill Wells. I hope he
did "Your Feets Too Big" by Fats Waller, myself, rather than the Cleo
Laine school of jazz. Don't ask me any more about this, as I don't
know any and will just make up a load of lies, but expect to hear
something about it soon, I guess.
Now Tim's rudeness competition. I do urge you all to enter, as he'll
sulk for ages at me about you all being useless hippies who don't
even know how to swear properly if we don't get more entries. The
closing date is FRIDAY and we have 3 spanking new copies of Stuart
David's book looking for homes, thanks to that nice Kaye at I.M.P.,
the publishers. It's got naked pinups of the band in it too, like in
Look-In.
Everyone knows this is a Thai-based B&S list, and I was very surprised
to see the following news a bit ago: that the American sitcom "Joannie
Loves Chachi" was banned in Thailand, because Chachi means "penis".
How silly, she probably DOES and what's so wrong with that. Mind you,
they did get jittery about "The King and Oon". How ridiculous,
especially bearing in mind Thailand is the world's chief exporter of
Pissing Boys.
Putting on my sensible shoes..
.. I have the following administrative information.
ONE
Alex mentioned that the Stuart David bed-ins in bookshops (bagism,
shagism) have changed locations - IMP asked me to pass on what's what.
Here you go:
> Borders gig is now cancelled - due to lighting problems.
> Oxford Virgin gig is being replaced by Nottingham Virgin, same times.
> Their telephone number at the store for free tickets is 0115 947
> 6126
I do like "lighting problems". Someone make a joke about it quick.
TWO
Something to do with a B&S night on Toronto:
> I recently emailed asking you to put through an announcement as to a Belle
> and Sebastian night in Toronto at Vox Central, November 4th. I've just
> received word that the club has gone bankrupt, thus there will be no Songs
> For Children happening until further notice. I'm looking at some other
> clubs downtown so hopefully it will just be postponed.
THREE
Dunno whether people have seen this. Someone sent it me. At least
they sent it ME instead of grabbing all your emails from the archive
and spamming you all like wotsit with the MP3s. Grr.
> I'm not sure if I told you guys about this yet, but there's an Belle
> and Sebastian music video on the Insound.com website. Here's the link
> to it so you can see it and maybe put up a link onto your website or
> something: http://www.insound.com/cinema/searchalpha.cfm?searchby=B
FOUR
Finally some more information from Wrasse Records about the Bathers
LP with some Belly's on it.
> Belle and Sebastian (Isobel and Richard) helped out with the new
> Bathers album - Pandemonia. They are friends of each other and live
> very near to each other. This is Chris Thomsons (singer songwiter of
> the bathers) sixth album and most mature. Many of the songs have been
> written from personal experience and many revisit "the" relationship as
> it unfolds.
>
> To find out more about the album please visit their official website
> www.thebathers.com and their record company's site
> www.thebathers.wrasserecords.com .
>
> The Bathers are playing a one off gig in London at the ICA on Thursday
> 21st October.
In fact they live so close to each other I bet they go round for tea.
Jam sangwiches mmm...
If you got this far, I bet you read the labels on Kellogs packets.
Honey xxx
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From sburon at xxx.fr Wed Oct 13 22:05:12 1999
From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 23:05:12 +0200
Subject: Sinister: Socialism
Message-ID: <199910132102.XAA29061@front3m.grolier.fr>
Hi list...
Maybe you'll find this interesting : go and see
http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19991013112036.html,
something about Belle and Sebastian and socialism...
Hope you'll tell us what they said!!!
Stephane
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From pookie59 at xxx.com Wed Oct 13 22:11:50 1999
From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:11:50 PDT
Subject: Sinister: poetry debate
Message-ID: <19991013211150.91220.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hi List,
Thankyou to Nick Dastoor for writing the articles up-- it was interesting
wasn't it? Trousers,your speech is very eloquent and I would like you to
write my philosophy essay for me. God knows I'm getting stupider.No..I
really am.There was this vocabulary quiz and I didnt know what extol or apex
was.Sigh.That girl who wrote back about the poetry seemed to be having a
hissy fit,I'm sorry,but just because you're 15 doesn't give you an exuse to
be a dolt.I liked the New Kids when I was 5,but I think thats
different..Sure some of that easy-breezy music stuff is fun to dance to and
everything,but good god,its not like I'm going to go home and try to anaylze
"Angels" by Robbie Williams. But uh-oh..I dont actually KNOW this "Angels"
song,so maybe it could be deep,huh? But anyways,I think you know what I
mean. Now DROOLZ..on the other hand...thats heavy stuff...tears at my
soul...
This reminds me of a conversation I had with my father.After his usual
teasing of my choice in music I said "Come on..I'm sure you didnt listen to
all that classical stuff when you were my age" And he replied that actually
he had...he just had to wrestle for it to be played in the car. Geez,theres
always someone up higher in the musical food chain.I laugh at Moffat
girls...Father laughs at Belle&Sebastian girls...but who laughs at father?
Moffat girls? Those boys are really nasty looking.I know its mean,but they
are.Yet they were painted on red-sequinned pants, why why why?
Piddly poo..anyways,I'm sorry to bug you all again,but I really dig this
list for homework dilemmas.I need to compare 2 philosopher or historian guys
who might share the same idea,or may have opposing views.(e.g Marx vs
Smith..except...you cant do that one,so dont suggest!) "Help me!" cried the
girl as she tumbled down the cliff.
PJ Miller...dont knock the tousle,tousle,tousle till you've tried it.I
picture you with waist-length auburn locks.Or maybe strawberry blonde.
Oh,and *I've* got my OWN sinisterine story now too.Ok..maybe it wasn't all
fancy-pants,and there was so football game,and there was no drink,but I did
get to see the lovely EA, the princess who broke my hank-as-frog spell.
aaaaa! brain turning to mush!
love...
genevieve,no-longer-a-toad
p.s
everyone go to keiths club dammit!Friggin hell,everything is so close over
there.You know,if I was in Europe,I would like...bicyle to different
countries.London to Paris in 2 hours! I can't get over it.If I was to travel
north..I'd make it to Nunavut. Mick has a brother,awwww. I just love
families of brothers.Stuart David has a brother.Does Stuart Murdoch have a
brother..is a widdle widdle guy? I just want to scoop that whole bunch up in
my arms and coo at them.
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From Mark at xxx.com Thu Oct 14 09:52:57 1999
From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:52:57 +0100
Subject: Sinister: I'll have a crocodile sandwich...
Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2297F2B3@SERVER1>
Wanky post ahoy.
Kerry's recent letter was all about having sex. What struck me was the way
the phrase was just tossed off (cheers) here and there in the most
matter-of-fact way, whether it was talking about Beanz fantasies or exes or
one night stands. It's probably just a language thing, me being
oversensitive while Kerry was just being stream-of-consciousness literal,
but it's still something that made me think Which is a rarity.
Sex with people you care about is better than sex with people you don't.
Even if the act of coition isn't as impressive, it's always going to be on a
different level that makes it that much more satisfying. Well that's what I
think anyway, but I may be being a hopeless romantic. Which is quite a nice
way to be.
I also find the expression "having sex" sounds faintly unpleasant because of
the connotation I lumber it with that it's a 100% physical, 0% emotional
act. Coming from someone who can argue for hours about how words shouldn't
be given any status they don't merit (cunt being the obvious example), that
sounds silly. I'd rather use the word fuck to describe the act if it were
with someone I love, as to me it seems at least passionate, and has a sense
of depth about it. But that's just me.
I must admit, though, that discovering saying "You're totally hot. I've
considered having sex with you a few times" actually *works* has radically
changed my view of pick-up lines :-)
Finally, an apology. Tim has made me realise that my "biting satire" wasn't
really very funny. It wasn't entirely satire either. I'm sorry to be
offensive, even if I was trying to be funny (a bit) and wasn't really
serious (though I was, a bit). I suppose I am a snob. 14 years of public
school education is bound to leave some kind of stain...
Told you it was wanky.
Love Mark (who is now hoping to NYC *and* Toronto some time next year...)
xxx
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From lucy.alder at xxx.uk Thu Oct 14 12:57:22 1999
From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:57:22 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Miserable? Moi?
Message-ID: <11020643E71FD311ACAA0008C7C563F301AB540A@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk>
Well, first of all, I'm not a sad cow anymore. I've spent 5 days enjoying
the delights of northern Italy and have returned with new clothes and
perfume, a stash of Diana cigarettes (blue ones for the royal connection)
and a much happier heart. So sorry for boring you all before, but I'm back
to my old juicy self and promise never to darken your inbox with stress and
misery again.
Have you ever tried starving yourself of music? It's fab. I didn't listen
to anything while I was in Italy, then put Tigermilk on as soon as I got in
and it was twice as good as usual (which is really saying something, is it
not?). I am also listening to a lot of music with handclaps at the moment -
in my (oh so humble) opinion, a song with handclaps in it is as catchy as
crabs. And they general make your toes tingle and twitch and itch to dance.
My current fave is Needle in a Haystack (as in finding a good man is...).
Just realised that parentheses must be as catchy as crabs because I've
obviously caught brackets off somebody on this list. Better than rickets I
suppose. But you can't catch rickets because it's caused by vitamin
deficiency or something.
Anyway, I think in the middle of all that I mentioned a top soul tune, so
speaking of that, who was listening to John Peel last night? I scrabbled
around and couldn't find a pen to write down the name of that corking soul
tune he played. Can anyone help? I want to add it to my Records Wanted
list for next time I go soul shoppin'. Hmmm... a Records Wanted list - who
was it that decreed that girls can't be trainspotterish? Actually, I've had
enough of the girls like this and boys like that argument. That whinger in
the guardian reckoned it was girls who voted for Angels 2nd best lyric -
rot! I know as many boys who like that song as girls who do. And it was
written by a boy too. And I like being trainspotterish about records and I
love football (yes, indeed, a lover of football can also love Woking
Football Club). So there!
And talking of football, my team in Italy, Atalanta, has signed Caniggia (a
legend, non-footie fans). My friend Roby taught me the song they sing for
him, which involves spurious references to sacks of South American powders.
But I was drunk at the time and can't remember it in Italian, let alone
attempt a translation.
Drunken Kerry wrote:
i said i wanted to boff one of his friends
Blimey! Does it mean shag? When I heard the word boff at school, I thought
they were taking the piss because I got my homework done on time. If only
I'd known.
And then Mark C wrote
I also find the expression "having sex" sounds faintly unpleasant because of
the connotation I lumber it with that it's a 100% physical, 0% emotional
act.
But surely it's preferable to "making love", which has a yuckfactor of
Michael Boltonesque proportions. As opposed to my favourite old chestnut,
"shagging", which is just great.
Goodness gracious, what a lot of smut.
Juicy Lucy
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From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Oct 14 14:03:53 1999
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:03:53 +0200
Subject: Sinister: Does Poetry Rock?
Message-ID: <01bf1644$919f8100$LocalHost@itjfvkli>
That woman in the Guardian is talking shite, isn't she? I bet she's
"slightly soiled" as well. The Trousers Article read much more nicely
than hers, the useless old trout. As veterans of Jeepster's underhand
Brits campaign, we all know how Robbie Williams got to number two. His
fans, little girls or not, are what the NME calls "techno-literate". I
thought everyone thought "Bohemian Rhapsody" was a load of crap. I
have to say that I think the debate between poetry and song lyrics is
a bit redundant. After all, until the record industry came along and
spoiled everything, they were just different words for the same thing.
I have no evidence to back this theory up, apart from the fact that
loads of poems begin "I sing my song and celebrate / the size of
Murdoch's trouser snake", for example. And everybody knows that simple
lyrics are better than complicated ones. I used to like clever lyrics,
but I grew out of it. Now I prefer groove-centred instrumentals. For
the record, I would have voted for "Our House" by Madness, and if
pushed to choose a line, I would plump for "She's the one they're
going to miss in lots of ways", a touching tribute to Madness's mum,
that I'm sure Barry Sheene would appreciate. When my mate's mum got in
a muddle with the camera, he said "Mums eh? They're all the same!"
What a gent.
Keith (17), thank you for deciding to close your disco at such a
sensible hour. If only everyone else would follow your example. Props
to Nick for sending those articles in. I think you deserve to have the
record of your choice played at Keith's special disco. How about it,
Keith?
Peter
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From bellezc at xxx.com Thu Oct 14 15:48:43 1999
From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:48:43 PDT
Subject: Sinister: Yippie!
Message-ID: <19991014144843.62648.qmail@hotmail.com>
Uh!I actually thought I'd never get it.You know,with the list and
all.Anyway,I got up this morning at 8.Surprisingly,it wasn't cold.So,I look
out of the window and I see the castle here in Dudley being dark,because the
sun was right behind it sneaking out from the clouds.I was in awe!!!!Mind me
saying that but I put Elliott Smith on the stereo and flew away.And then I
had a lecture,which was quite nice.But then I had another lecture.I didn't
go.It is too beautyful a day to be in class having this full of negative
vibes teacher talking with his really boring voice.So,I didn't go!Last night
I got pissed and became the fool of the halls.It was fun,though!
Well,I'm off now.I'll probably go to my room and have an exciting
afternoon.Again.No B&S in any place around here,as a friend pointed out.WAKE
UP YOU TWATS!I come here from fuckin bloody Greece and I know
more?PLEASE!!!I need a decent rock place something and hurry!
Now I'm angry.Cheers,Zoe
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From Alexandre.Tobin at xxx.nl Thu Oct 14 16:11:32 1999
From: Alexandre.Tobin at xxx.nl (Alexandre Tobin)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:11:32 +0200
Subject: Sinister: nalda said winners...
Message-ID: <19991014150649875.AAA382@www-server.ucu.uu.nl@[131.211.105.90]>
Sadly, the competition to win a free copy of Stuart David's novel 'Nalda
Said' is over. The lucky winners are Helen McLean and Peter Mitchell.
Congrats to both of them, and hopefully we'll be able to do another few
compos in the future. Thanks also to everybody that sent in their answers
(almost 45 entries...).
Alex
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-+++ website http://www.popjourno.com
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From untitled at xxx.com Thu Oct 14 16:28:12 1999
From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:28:12 -0400
Subject: Sinister: I brought an Orange Juice album today, I wish I hadn't!
Message-ID: <199910141128_MC2-8900-2D39@compuserve.com>
I'm sorry if this has been said today but I haven't had time to read the
past 28 posts. I'm that busy. But tonight on Radio 1, I think it's
called, erm, the update or something, but I think it's with Steve Lamaqe
(is that how it works?), well on Radio 1 tonight our hero, Mr Murdoch is on
talking about some Scottish Socilism stuff. But if you want to hear if he
talks like he sings, or perhaps want to find out if he just sings
everything, then listen in!
Rob
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From honey at xxx.net Thu Oct 14 17:04:07 1999
From: honey at xxx.net (Honey)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:04:07 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: nalda said winners...
In-Reply-To: <19991014150649875.AAA382@www-server.ucu.uu.nl@[131.211.105.90]>
Message-ID:
Alexandre Tobin said:
> Sadly, the competition to win a free copy of Stuart David's novel 'Nalda
> Said' is over. The lucky winners are Helen McLean and Peter Mitchell.
Crikey - that's my dad! I didn't even know he entered! He never
entered the sweary competition... actually I think Alex means Peter
Millllllller. Peter you can't now win the Sinister competition no
matter how well you swear. You old stiffy!
Any more swear-words? We've had "some more" entries for our very own
Sinister Nalda competition since Tim's tragic Blue Peter appeal, but
you've still got time. Closing date is midnight tonight, Edinburgh
time. Hurry now.
And - here's the latest Jeepster Nudes Bulletin, cut up 'n'
edited just for you in a postmodern fashion to contain 100% B&S
related content..ish. For those who aren't subscribed directly.
Honeypie x
------
>From david at jeepster.co.uk Thu Oct 14 16:58:51 1999
From: David Kitchen
LOOPER RECORD NEWS
http://www.jeepster.co.uk/looper/
looper, brain-child of stuart david, are back, as a four piece and with a new
double a-side single 'who's afraid of Y2K'/'up a tree again' released on the 18th
october 1999 and backed with a very special remix.
the full track listing is:
1- who's afraid of Y2K
2- up a tree again (stuart david re-edit)
3- up a tree again (pulp remix, also known as 'the chocolate layer st
johns ambulance mix')
stuart david on 'who's afraid of Y2K':
"it came about from reading a lot of articles about the millennium bug - about
things like the guys they had hired to fix the problems at the government
buildings in america, working on it for a couple of days, till they realised how
unfixable it was, and then all quitting the job and buying themselves land in the
hills to build survival shelters to live in. and things like finding out that even
richard madely from this morning and keith richards have their own survival
cupboards at home. then i thought of how it was such a simple and avoidable
problem, but how much damage it could do now. and i thought maybe it would cause a
kind of natural revolution."
----------------
LOOPER TOUR NEWS
to promote the forthcoming single and the publishing of his debut novel, looper
will be appearing at a number of bookstores in the UK, check the stores for more
details and start times:
16th oct 99 glasgow (UK) virgin megastore
18th oct 99 london (UK) virgin megastore, oxford street
20th oct 99 brighton (UK) borders (sallis benney theatre)
21st oct 99 nottingham (UK) virgin megastore
22nd oct 99 leeds (UK) virgin megastore
each of the shows will be starting of with a looper-style reading from the novel,
accompanied by films and stuff for about fifteen minutes. then they'll be doing a
set of looper songs for around half an hour.
-------------------------
LOOPER MISCELLANEOUS NEWS
looper have expanded, new band member scott twynholm plays keyboards and live drum
loops and has also helped Stuart David produce the latest single. ronnie black,
stuart's brother is now full-time on guitar and karn david, his wife, still sings
and plays as well as handling all the live visuals.
----------------
THE GENTLE WAVES
http://www.jeepster.co.uk/thegentlewaves/
isobel is currently in the studio with various members of belle and sebastian and
is recording her follow up to the successful 'green field of foreverland'. we hope
to have this released spring/summer next year, but we'll keep you up to date with
the progress.
-------------------
BELLE AND SEBASTIAN
http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/
are still in and out of the studio working on the new album, they're also
currently considering locations for a possible tour in the future to co-incide
with the release of the album next year. other bits in the pipeline include the
development of the lyrics/tablature book which should include illustrations by
alisdair gray (if you haven't yet read his novel 'lanark' and are wondering who he
is you should rush out and get it now; from either:
amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0156003619/jeepsterrecord0a
amazon.co.uk: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0330319655/jeepsterrecords
)
--------------
END OF MESSAGE
well, that's us done for once again. we'll mail again the next time we have
something of substance to say :) as usual all corrections and comments (there are
always some!) should be forwarded to myself at the address below.
as a footnote, you may have noticed that the official jeepster belle and sebastian
has moved from www.belleandsebastian.co.uk to
http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ . but it's still the same site, and
to underline it's the fact that it's the record label site, we've gone and made it
look like the posters with the little black border on the top and everything :) .
the band also have their own site at www.myspace.co.uk/belleandsebastian which is
themed to resemble the glasgow public transport system. so there you have it, now
you know where our site has moved to and what the difference is :)
cheers
david
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From david at xxx.uk Thu Oct 14 17:11:54 1999
From: david at xxx.uk (David Kitchen)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:11:54 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Salako Single, Looper Single and lots of cool gigs :)
Message-ID: <380600CA.A355BBD9@jeepster.co.uk>
welcome to another jeepster update, this issue includes:
NEW SALAKO SINGLE, TO BE GIVEN AWAY AT GIGS
SALAKO TOUR AND PAVEMENT SUPPORT
SNOW PATROL TOUR AND SUPERGRASS SUPPORT
SNOW PATROL BEST NEWCOMER AWARD WINNER AT HOT PRESS
LOOPER SINGLE
LOOPER TOUR OF BOOKSTORES
GENTLE WAVES IN STUDIO
BELLE AND SEBASTIAN IN STUDIO, LOOKING TO TOUR AND WORKING ON TAB MUSIC
BOOK
------------------
SALAKO RECORD NEWS
http://www.jeepster.co.uk/salako/
musicality has hit the streets in the united kingdom and throughout europe. it's
an expedition into the world of high-fidelity (no, not the novel) and is a true
masterpiece. if you don't yet have it you can purchase it from us directly. it has
just been released in the US through never records/proper distribution, so you
should be able to order it in the US from most good stores.
as a special treat for fans attending gigs, salako have created an EP that will be
given away to the first 50 people through the door. it's entitled the 'mappleton
sands' EP and is a six tracker at that! it even features THE best titled song that
we've ever heard of: "the three crows of life vs the wood pigeon of death". the
exact running order for the EP is;
1- san francisco baby rides
2- (have you heard) musicality
3- the answailians
4- the three crows of life vs the wood pigeon of death
5- you know it's true
6- the overhead projector theory
we'll have artwork available reasonably soon, mp3 samples are already available on
the salako site (http://www.jeepster.co.uk/salako/). the release date
for this is provisionally set at 25th october in the UK, but this is a mere
courtesy since it won't be available in the shops, we'll put a few for sale on the
website for fans outside of the UK after the gigs, but the vast majority will only
be available at forthcoming gigs.
copies of their recent 'bird in the bag' limited 7" are still available to
purchase through the jeepster shop, it includes the 'associate listener membership
cards' which entitles the holder to various privileges. one of the privileges we
are aware of is that, if you stop the band on the streets of hull and produce the
card, they'll buy you a cup of tea!
----------------
SALAKO TOUR NEWS
salako finally present 'musicality' in a live show, these are very exclusive gigs
and promise to be exceptionally special. aside from the fact that the first 50 or
so people through the door will be given the new limited edition EP for free, the
hull gig also has a very, very special support band. check venues for ticket
details.
19th oct 99 leeds (UK) the duchess of york
20th oct 99 nottingham (UK) bunkers hill
21st oct 99 manchester (UK) roadhouse
22nd oct 99 london (UK) the borderline (with model ford)
box office: 0171 734 2095
ticketmaster: 0171 344 4444
stargreen: 0171 734 8932
or ticketweb.co.uk
27th oct 99 hull (UK) the adelphi
28th oct 99 liverpool (UK) royal court (bbc radio 1 sound city with
stereolab & pavement)
the following dates are as support for pavement:
18th nov 99 glasgow (UK) barrowlands
19th nov 99 manchester (UK) academy
20th nov 99 london (UK) brixton academy
-----------------
SALAKO MEDIA NEWS
following the CMJ festival in New York, www.spin.com (the website for the hugely
successful US magazine) has an exclusive interview and 2 live songs available. the
files can be viewed in Real Video and Windows Media formats (videos!) and can be
found here: http://www.spin.com/signal/webcasts/1999/09/29/1/page2.html
-----------------------
SNOW PATROL RECORD NEWS
http://www.jeepster.co.uk/snowpatrol/
snow patrol will return to the studio in november to finish the long-awaited
follow up to the brilliant 'songs for polar bears' which was released in the fall
of 1998 to widespread acclaim.
the new songs will include a few of the live favourites as well as debuting
several astounding new songs. we'll keep you posted with developments.
---------------------
SNOW PATROL TOUR NEWS
continuing their never-ending tour, you can catch the 'patrol at the following
gigs (check venues for ticket info).
21st oct 99 aberdeen (UK) the pelican (aberdeen alternative festival)
22nd oct 99 kirkcaldy (UK) the path tavern
23rd oct 99 kirkcaldy (UK) the path tavern
25th oct 99 norwich (UK) the arts centre
26th oct 99 colchester (UK) twist
27th oct 99 london (UK) scala (with high llamas & seafood & my vitriol)
29th oct 99 leeds (UK) the warehouse
4th nov 99 belfast (UK) morrisons (queens festival with reef)
5th nov 99 dublin (IE) eamonn dorans
6th nov 99 hull (UK) the adelphi
the following european dates are as support for the mighty supergrass:
8th nov 99 utrecht (germany) music centre
9th nov 99 frankfurt (germany) batschkapp
10th nov 99 munich (germany) incognito
12th nov 99 modena (italy) vox
13th nov 99 rimini (italy) velvet
14th nov 99 roma (italy) palladium
15th nov 99 milan (italy) magazzini
17th nov 99 zurich (switzerland) abart
18th nov 99 stuttgart (germany) rohre
19th nov 99 koln (germany) kantine
----------------------
SNOW PATROL MEDIA NEWS
snow patrol were nominated for two awards at this years hot press awards. the
annual awards celebrate irish music, and the paper (which is often compared to
that the nme, but for ireland) has been instrumental in having the band nominated
after a huge demand from readers.
they lost out on 'best single', but left the night gleefully clutching their 'best
newcomer' award, that and the memories from offending one of the corrs!
a web broadcast of the awards is available from the hot press website
(http://www.hot-press.com/), you can also find out more information on the awards
and the hot press paper on that site.
in other news, following the CMJ festival in New York, www.spin.com (the website
for the hugely successful US magazine) has an exclusive interview and live song
available. the files can be viewed in Real Video and Windows Media formats (yes,
they're videos!) and can be found here:
http://www.spin.com/signal/webcasts/1999/09/29/1/index.html
and finally, snow patrol will be joining the charlatans in performing backstage at
the prestigious MTV europe music awards on november 11th. we're afraid that you
can't get in to see it, but hopefully they'll come out with some rock 'n' roll
stories to share!
------------------
LOOPER RECORD NEWS
http://www.jeepster.co.uk/looper/
looper, brain-child of stuart david, are back, as a four piece and with a new
double a-side single 'who's afraid of Y2K'/'up a tree again' released on the 18th
october 1999 and backed with a very special remix.
the full track listing is:
1- who's afraid of Y2K
2- up a tree again (stuart david re-edit)
3- up a tree again (pulp remix, also known as 'the chocolate layer st
johns ambulance mix')
stuart david on 'who's afraid of Y2K':
"it came about from reading a lot of articles about the millennium bug - about
things like the guys they had hired to fix the problems at the government
buildings in america, working on it for a couple of days, till they realised how
unfixable it was, and then all quitting the job and buying themselves land in the
hills to build survival shelters to live in. and things like finding out that even
richard madely from this morning and keith richards have their own survival
cupboards at home. then i thought of how it was such a simple and avoidable
problem, but how much damage it could do now. and i thought maybe it would cause a
kind of natural revolution."
----------------
LOOPER TOUR NEWS
to promote the forthcoming single and the publishing of his debut novel, looper
will be appearing at a number of bookstores in the UK, check the stores for more
details and start times:
16th oct 99 glasgow (UK) virgin megastore
18th oct 99 london (UK) virgin megastore, oxford street
20th oct 99 brighton (UK) borders (sallis benney theatre)
21st oct 99 nottingham (UK) virgin megastore
22nd oct 99 leeds (UK) virgin megastore
each of the shows will be starting of with a looper-style reading from the novel,
accompanied by films and stuff for about fifteen minutes. then they'll be doing a
set of looper songs for around half an hour.
-------------------------
LOOPER MISCELLANEOUS NEWS
looper have expanded, new band member scott twynholm plays keyboards and live drum
loops and has also helped Stuart David produce the latest single. ronnie black,
stuart's brother is now full-time on guitar and karn david, his wife, still sings
and plays as well as handling all the live visuals.
----------------
THE GENTLE WAVES
http://www.jeepster.co.uk/thegentlewaves/
isobel is currently in the studio with various members of belle and sebastian and
is recording her follow up to the successful 'green field of foreverland'. we hope
to have this released spring/summer next year, but we'll keep you up to date with
the progress.
-------------------
BELLE AND SEBASTIAN
http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/
are still in and out of the studio working on the new album, they're also
currently considering locations for a possible tour in the future to co-incide
with the release of the album next year. other bits in the pipeline include the
development of the lyrics/tablature book which should include illustrations by
alisdair gray (if you haven't yet read his novel 'lanark' and are wondering who he
is you should rush out and get it now; from either:
amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0156003619/jeepsterrecord0a
amazon.co.uk: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0330319655/jeepsterrecords
)
--------------
END OF MESSAGE
well, that's us done for once again. we'll mail again the next time we have
something of substance to say :) as usual all corrections and comments (there are
always some!) should be forwarded to myself at the address below.
as a footnote, you may have noticed that the official jeepster belle and sebastian
has moved from www.belleandsebastian.co.uk to
http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ . but it's still the same site, and
to underline it's the fact that it's the record label site, we've gone and made it
look like the posters with the little black border on the top and everything :) .
the band also have their own site at www.myspace.co.uk/belleandsebastian which is
themed to resemble the glasgow public transport system. so there you have it, now
you know where our site has moved to and what the difference is :)
cheers
david
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From mctag at xxx.com Thu Oct 14 17:27:39 1999
From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:27:39 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Terminator Roolz speaks with his hands
Message-ID: <380601f5.109624@post.demon.co.uk>
Hello Little Ones,
What a thrilling week it's been. I was overjoyed to read Nick's
updates on the new found celebrity status of Sinister's answer to
Garry Bushell, Stephen "Column Inches" Trousers. What a woolly bloody
liberal you are, Trousers, talking to the Independent. Or did you
just think that the Indie was a fanzine? Personally, I only give
interviews to "Living Marxism", "Hustler" and "Country Life". It's
the perfect balance. Oh, and Trousers....where's my sodding
"Papercuts"?
Aside from Poetic of Rotherhithe, I'm pleased to see quite a few other
bids for stardom from our little group. We already know about Funky
Seb interpreting Moby via the medium of dance, and are relishing Keef
and Klur's reinvention as Mr and Mrs Stringfellow. But how many
noticed the fragrant Miss Wumpkinny totally upstaging Kirtsy Young on
last week's "Stars in their Eyes" Celebrity Final, with her "Britney
Spears unplugged" routine? It really happened, apart from the Britney
Spears bit.
Talking of Britney, which I was and you all should be, I was late for
work this morning, so engrossed was I by Zoe Ball's interview with the
Thinking Man's Isobel Campbell herself. She said very flattering
things about boys with ginger hair, so I reckon she fancies me. The
Britney-Wump connection continued when Ms Spears revealed that her
birthday is just one day after my live-in lover's, so I think we
should have a great big party in their honour.
Oh yes, the Ambrosia ad. Is that Tim Hopkins riding a moo-cow from
London to his native Devon? And is that Andy Dean and Steady Mike
disguised as the Village People in the background? And do Tim's
fellow Devonians, Adrian Evans and Piezo Erotic Unit, really "like it
with their oats on top"? I think they do.
I am now the proud owner of my very own Pissing Boy, courtesy of
Madame Oon and her exotic palace of soul. Thank you very much, Madame
Oon, bathtime is even more fun than usual, even though Pissing Boy's,
shall we say,"Yul Bryner" is giving me an inferiority complex.
Can someone explain to me why that Maria Carey video features an old
lady sitting on the toilet with her panteloonies round her ankles?
It's good to see "Gregory's Two Girls" getting good reviews. I was a
Doubting Tag when I first heard about it, but now I'm full of hope
that this could be a "Stolen Kisses" to "Gregory's Girl"'s "Les quatre
cents coups". Apparently, only two of the original cast are in the
new one. One is obviously Gregory, so if there is a god, please
please please let the other one be Phil Menzies. At this week's
meeting of the South Manchester Sinisterines DIY Society, Warrander
John and myself decided that we would happily kill for a copy of the
"Gregory's Girl" endearingly Eighties soundtrack. So if you have such
a copy, send it to me this instant or you die.
That's your lot. Just be grateful I speak to you at all.
Love tag xx
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From bfundak at xxx.org Thu Oct 14 17:37:06 1999
From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:37:06 -0400 (EWT)
Subject: Sinister: A message for poor Dan Hooper
Message-ID:
I was touched by Dan's message, but I think the reason he got into the
situation to get the bruised heart was because there is really no way to
accurately judge how someone is going to be *in person* by lengthy
e--mails and phone calls. Too much of the context of living is divorced
from those situations to accurately judge how perfect someone is going to
be (and no one is perfect.) I think at times , especially among the
#sinister folk, I have alienated them by saying how stupid internet long
distance relationships are. Well, I have changed my stance. It can work,
but only when the people meet initially and use the medium to communicate
cheaply. Because then you knew what they were like in person before you
went on your best guess as it were. I mean, I guess the other is possible
too, but it's not as likely and is certainly not a situation I would get
myself into.
Hmmm. This message was to reassure Dan, but I have a feeling I have
opened a can of worms. Sorry.
Brandt
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From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Thu Oct 14 17:46:53 1999
From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:46:53 EDT
Subject: Sinister: It was a fix!
Message-ID: <0.46fcb8e0.253762fd@aol.com>
Hola.
Didn't you just bloody know that we would get England in the Euro 2000
play-offs?.I mean granted if we qualify at their expense it'll be yay! and
dancing in the streets,but what if THEY win?.(I'll reach for the razor-blades
and end it all).On a more positive note,we could have a sinister
Scotland/England thing...poetry and lyric reciting,singing and dancing rather
than thugs jumping on each other's heads.Imagine.
Steve S xx. I'm really rather excited.
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From MM_KULIK at xxx.EDU Thu Oct 14 18:17:30 1999
From: MM_KULIK at xxx.EDU (MM_KULIK at xxx.EDU)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:17:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: American in Glasgow
Message-ID: <01JH4HG2OAN6A3GCJ4@ACAD.FANDM.EDU>
Hello everyone...
i think i have probably posted maybe 3 times ever on
the list but i have been receiving it for quite some
time...therefore, nobody knows me, so i will introduce
myself. my name is Moira and i'm from America
(outside Philadelphia, incidentally), but i am in
glasgow until christmas studying at the university of
glasgow. this is the funny thing i have
discovered...when i talk to people around here about
music, when i mention belle & sebastian, they say
something like, 'oh, yes, i've heard of them,' or 'i
know one or two of their songs,' or, most
surprisingly, 'who???' granted, none of the people
i've asked have actually been from glasgow but they're
all scottish (or sometimes english) and i would have
thought they would be more familiar, but i know more
americans who listen to them than scots, so far (of
course, most of those americans are my friends who
i've forced to listen to my b&s records and eventually
converted into fans, with very little effort on my
part...but it doesn't matter!). i find this all a bit
strange. and when i went into fopp's yesterday they
had only TBWTAS and tigermilk...no EPs, no sinister,
just those two. i was very upset about this because i
had intended to complete my collection by buying dog
on wheels, but i will have to wait until i find a
record shop or go back to america. i did pick up the
divine comedy's 'fin de siecle' on sale for #7...they
are having a huge sale on lots of quality items so if
anyone is in the market for cheap records i would
suggest stopping in and having a look. anyway...since
none of my friends here can help me by alerting me to
upcoming b&s-related events in glasgow, i would be
most appreciative if you all would let me know when
things are occurring because i would be most excited
to attend...i always get very jealous, reading about
picnics and club nights and things from my computer in
the states and now i can actually join in, yay!!! so
please keep the updates coming, and let me know of
anything else in glasgow and the surrounding areas
(i.e. the UK) that i may be interested to know.
p.s. brandt, yes, you are absolutely right to feel the
way you do about your mother's situation (sorry i
can't quote the original message here...) -- i would
feel the same way. but it's always a precarious
situation to try and give advice to your parents about
their personal lives, especially when they know you're
right and they're wrong -- they don't like to hear
that from their children. but every once in a while
my parents ASK for my opinion and it is quite
refreshing.
THANK YOU one and all!!! this city is lovely and i
don't want to leave in 9 weeks.
xoxo
moira
=====
Moira Kulik
Queen Margaret Hall
55 Bellshaugh Road
Kirklee
Glasgow G12 OSQ
Scotland
0141.334.2192
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From chris.jones at xxx.uk Thu Oct 14 21:03:40 1999
From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:03:40 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Adverts
Message-ID: <199910142016.VAA26751@smtp.saqnet.co.uk>
Can anybody tell me what that song is on the CGU advert. The chorus is 'We
Could Be Heroes'. I'm sure I'm supposed to know what it is, but I don't,
and it's great.
Chris Jones.
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From seyfert7 at xxx.com Thu Oct 14 21:30:07 1999
From: seyfert7 at xxx.com (deb s)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 20:30:07 GMT
Subject: Sinister: ontario meetup
Message-ID: <19991014203008.2814.qmail@hotmail.com>
Oi,
Maybe that is being a bit too broad, Toronto better? Sorry to *abuse* the
list this way, but hardly anyone seems to read the meetups page. We've been
asked to give plenty of notice for possible meetup dates, so out of towners
can arrange to come in, if they are so inclined.
I was speaking to Teri the other day about organising something in the
absense of Songs for Children, and since we had planned awhile back to have
an October meet. How does the weekend after the cancelled SfC sound?
That's early November, past midterms and such. I believe it is the weekend
of the 5or6or7th. Something like that?
I've even got an old sinisterite transferring my b&s video tape so that it's
acceptable for canadian viewers. That can be my lure. Anybody want to see
ALL the b&s videos....come to our meet up...meet lots of lov-e-ly people.
Don't be shy. Like I used to be.
Anyhow. All we have now is a *possible* date but still no real plans.
Picnics are out, so what is left? An old pub that has but two frequenters?
I don't know. Mail me if you have suggestions, or are interested in coming
along.
cheers
deb
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From funkyseb at xxx.com Thu Oct 14 23:24:37 1999
From: funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 23:24:37 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Funkyseb & the Cottage of doom
Message-ID: <009b01bf1695$81d4ac40$0d947ed4@hp-pavilion>
Honey wrote:
>Everyone knows this is a Thai-based B&S list, and I was very surprised
>to see the following news a bit ago: that the American sitcom "Joannie
>Loves Chachi" was banned in Thailand, because Chachi means "penis".
It was the title of an episode of Mork and Mindy. Apparently it was the idea
of the very hairy Mr Robin Williams, who liked "slipping" "rude things"
"in", and there's an episode with a "Mr Bollocks" in it that's never been
shown in Britain. ABSOLUTELY TRUE, according to The Grauniad. So probably
not really.
Anyway, I thought I'd tell you about my strange experience today. Like many
sad men, I use my penis solely for pissing. It's not fair, I know, but there
we are. Anyway, I was wandering prettily through London's louche and
fashionable Bromley by Bow, when I realised that my bladder was absolutely
bursting. SO imagine my delight, as I saw the welcoming steps of a lovely
old lavatory. I dashed across the road, knees straight, buttocks clenched,
rushed down the steps and, with an ecstacy of fumbling, found my trouser
sausage just in time.
ROCK ON!
It was only as the last drops of willy beer gurgled away down the drain that
I noticed what I'd walked into. The air was smoky, the atmosphere close- all
the lightbulbs removed, bar one. The room was tense with men, huddling away
from the light like anti-moths.
From one of the stalls came the sound of ernest moaning- two men finding
their natural rhythm, intuitively responding to each others moves. I was
confused- lost- but strangely transfixed. They reached an orgasmic climax,
and then, it all went quiet.
And then the saxophone solo kicked in. For twenty minutes. Freeform. I
fought my way out, but the Gaulois laden air was like jam, or maybe treacle.
Finally, I reached the door, and gulping in the daylight, I turned for one
look back. The cubicle door opened.
"Well I think that went quite well", said the first man, the spit of Jules
Holland.
"Aye, it did," said the other, his red haired friend. "Now can you move your
boogie woogie piano, I'm trapped behind the cistern".
I thought of my encounter for the rest of the day- a brief glimpse of a
furtive, underground world. A world of roll necks, and horns. And Bongos.
I also saw Stuart M rimming Whispering Bob Harris in a superloo in
Spitalfields, but that's another long winded not very funny story.
B&S swearing? Well I've got rather witty subtitle for Stuart David's book.
It's "The (Diamond)Ring of Truth" Hahahahaha! Ring, like an arse. D'you see?
Oh well, please yourselves. Great! P!O!P! thing that book. But it's rather
sad, so don't read it if you cry easily. It's got a fox in it, mind, which
almost makes up for the sad bits. Oh I'll piss off now.
seb
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From simon.allstar at xxx.net Fri Oct 15 06:46:55 1999
From: simon.allstar at xxx.net (Simon Bell)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:46:55 -0700
Subject: Sinister: Bowie weekender.
Message-ID: <000301bf16d0$eff54320$6288bc3e@oemcomputer>
Dear Mr Chris Jones,
It is Heroes by David Bone Face Bowie.
Love
Outta-Space-Si
Dear other people and pets,
I'm thinking of starting a record label.
Does anyone know of anyone that knows someone who may want someone to put a
record out for them?
You can e-mail privately, like a secret agent. Or reply here, I'm not that
choosy. Only...
they can't be poo.
poo = cast, ocean colour scene, skunk anaseed, chipawumba oh this could go
on and on and on and on and...
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From csomeone at xxx.com Thu Oct 14 23:20:40 1999
From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:20:40 PDT
Subject: Sinister: and my favorite color is orange
Message-ID: <19991014222040.16886.qmail@hotmail.com>
hello all folks young or young at heart:
everything here wonderful or not too dissappointing anyway. I'm in the mood
for adventure or at least a ride on a bicycle. I don't have a bicycle but i
certainly feel like I should be on one... something about the rhythm of my
life; wind on face, a short-lived feeling of exhiliration, a short-lived
feeling of sadness... and in general a sort of gladness to just be alive,
even if it goes on unrecognized, pedal pedal. Even though I'm really sitting
in an office, wondering if my plant needs watering. Nothing is going on in
my life, just living.
I feel like arranging a group of flowers.
I feel like making a mobile of colored paper.
buying a nicer pair of headphones
going home.
the new pair of headphones because I've noticed that the music that I like
the most brings me to a different place in my many pictures of life, like
looking through life through different prisms. and it makes me think of new
things. and how can you do that with a lousy pair of headphones that makes
me ignore the music? because whatever I make out of the music takes on the
qualities of what I'm hearing, and if the music is crystal than the world I
make up in my head is crystal, and if the song is full of hope than the
world is full of hope, and if it's full of boy wonder (b&s) than the world
is full of boy wonder. and if it sounds faded in my headphones, then I get
nowhere, and i feel like i should be washing dishes or something.
Does anyone in the california bay area know of the stanford radio
(90.1)program That Pop Thing? it used to be on last year, and now it's on
thursdays 6-9 am again now school's in, and today they put a song on called
King of the Bongos and it made me pretty happy and a little bit silly. that
show makes me happy. it's good to listen to, openminded, playing everything
from jesus and mary chain to sleater kinney to the lilys... makes me want to
hug him.
byebye
cynthia
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From redden at xxx.com Thu Oct 14 23:25:07 1999
From: redden at xxx.com (danielle redden)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:25:07 -0400
Subject: Sinister: doo da doo da
Message-ID:
there is a girl sitting next to me wearing lots of fleece. and her cell phone just rang to the tune of "campdown(sp?) races". and i laughed, well it came out more like a snort. she wasnt pleased. girls around here are scarey. uni girls with lots of money. however, i only have a way with women every third day, or that's what they tell me. i'm just a girl, so i wouldnt know.
i havent contributed to the list since the few days following the bowlie where all my time was spent on the computer avoiding my work and giggling all over the 'i saw you' board. that was sometime ago. i made a little promise to never write unless i read all the messages, but i've been a busy girl these days. and you kids just keep on writing. but i'm all caught up now. oh, go on, give me a gold star.
it's been a blustery day and i was carried all the way from my doorstep, down 17th street, and right up to the train station by a big gust of wind. now i'll go home and make soup and watch the sut set by the river. i may even pull out the leg warmers. hmmmmm.
good news:
1.hefner is playing a halloween show in philadelphia. i live there, so you can imagine my happiness.
2. daniel johnston is also in philly next week with a band(?). i really dont understand how the man can play on stage with other people, but i guess i'll find out. by the way i am in love with daniel johnston despite the fact he is a fat man with a lisp.
one more thing....
lucy wrote...
But surely it's preferable to "making love", which has a yuckfactor of
Michael Boltonesque proportions.
i say "making love" all the time and i hate michael bolton. it is a bit silly i guess. but 'having sex' just sounds off, 'fuck' sounds like rape, and if i was to say 'shag' in the states everyone would think i was trying to be austin powers.when i was in london a few weeks ago i was conversing a bit with some non-hearing kids about the differences between american sign language (which i know a little of) and english sign language (which i know nothing of). the sign for "sex" in ESL is poking your index finger of your left hand into a hole made by your right hand. in ASL the sign for "sex" is signing "i love you" with both hands and making a circular motion with your hands one on top of the other. (i hope you can all visualize this) i found this little cultural difference fascinating. oh course from my own experiences i have met very few american boys who 'make love', but i wont go on about that, since this e is already entirely too long.
go make some love,
danielle
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From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Fri Oct 15 05:08:19 1999
From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (blakee)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 00:08:19 -0400
Subject: Sinister: we used to go out on the summer nights and dance in the neon rain...
Message-ID: <000701bf16c2$eb12af40$a51574cc@woody>
love me love me like a cardigans song,
well i have returned home for a few days to realize what it is that i'm
missing away at school. i think i'm missing a lot--my sanity for one thing.
school is so frustrating. we all convince ourselves that grades and courses
matter when in ten years all i'll remember about university is how the food
always tasted like shite.
bollocks, i'll never be content.
i was just watching loveline and they mentioned fetishes--i'm not sure this
counts as a full blown fetish, but i have a thing with girls and spectacles.
it drives me absolutely bonkers. especially if they're the big NHS
distributed kind. then i forget my name. one of these days i won't be able
to remember it. getting back to my confession, my dream is being swept off
of my feet by a succulent girl in glasses. it's just a dream, mind you. i
have that feeling that soon here i'm going to get swept off of my feet.
does anyone else ever get that feeling? like things are all starting to
happen at odd yet opportune times, like things are aligning to finally throw
you a break? hopefully this time it won't break my nose when it hits me in
my face.
hooray for vinyl, as i'm completely rebuilding my WHO collection through it.
that includes 80s WHO as well. is there a good online shop to buy lots and
lots and lots of new/used vinyl? b&s would be ace with the crack and pop of
the turntable.
i'm in the process of trying to get a more up to date pic of myself on
something somewhere, but don't hold your breath, not that there's anyone who
is.
oh, and i'm moving to london sometime soon. if i appear at your doorstep,
soaked with rain, glasses foggy, suitcase soggy and eyelashes limp, would
you turn me away?
i would hope not. especially if you're a girl with spectacles.
love
blake xx
the nerdy shy eyed pacifist
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From m.livingston at xxx.au Fri Oct 15 05:23:14 1999
From: m.livingston at xxx.au (MICHAEL LIVINGSTON)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:23:14 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: Introductions and all that nonsense
Message-ID:
Hi all,
At last I've been allowed out of the nursery and been let in with the big
kids. I figured I might as well right to you all just to introduce myself
and kill some time. Actually, mainly to kill time - I've got 3
assignments due on Monday and I can't do any of them so I need something
to do to keep my mind off my problems. Well, I'm Michael Livingston from
Brisbane Australia - unfortunately B+S have made very little impression on
Brisbane's sunny shores as yet, very occasionally the local community
radio station will play something off one of the albums, but that's as far
as it goes. Sort of sums up Brisbane in some ways. Let me exlain.
Last night Rebecca Gates (Spinanes) and Sam Prekop (the sea and cake)
played in town. I think the Spinanes have been here once 3 or so years ago
and as far as I know Sam Prekop hasn't made the trip here before so you
would think that all the indie kids in Brissy would dust off their dancing
shoes (or maybe just their normal shoes if they're a bit self-conscious)
and head out to see some of America's finest. Alas, maybe 40 people
turned up and can be split into the following categories:
10 - friends of the opening band who were locals
10 - people who had paid the money to come, but were quite content to sit
around and chat the whole time.
20 - enthusiastic audience members.
So that's a snapshot of Brisbane's enthusiasm towards slightly obscure
bands (a category that B+S (see how I worked them back in to keep it all
on topic) unfortunately fit into in Oz).
Whoops, my first post to the list was a big whinge. I'm really much
cheerier than that usually. Honest.
While I'm here:
A guy called Tim mentioned:
> Lucksmiths albums: I now have some, and they are very good. Don't think
> anything else needs to be said about these.
Although it was mentioned specifically that nothing else needed to be said
I just wanted to add my parochial support to the Lucksmiths and confirm
that they are indeed very good.
Ah well, the feelings of guilt are overwhelming me so I'm going to get
back into the fun that my statistics assignment has to offer.
Mick
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From lost_madflowr at xxx.com Fri Oct 15 06:57:35 1999
From: lost_madflowr at xxx.com (lost madflowr)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:57:35 PDT
Subject: Sinister: meet up in DC this saturday - ANNE SUMMERS/THE HANG UPS
Message-ID: <19991015055736.49527.qmail@hotmail.com>
okay kiddies. i just posted on the meet up board
this same info but i felt i'd elaborate a bit.
and i just posted this to the indie pop list too.
so sorry if you're on both! yes there is a bit
of b&s content. scroll down. scroll down.
the garage is located at 1214B 18th Street, NW Washington D.C.
the show is sadly 18+.
the bands playing and the times they go on are:
9:30 Evelyn Forever (Asbury Park, NJ)
10:30 The Hang Ups (Minneapolis, MN)
11:30 Anne Summers (Falls Church, VA)
i guarantee that you will have a great time. after the bands are done,
mark, the dj who spins at mousetrap/the living room/cold rice, will
be spinning until 3 A.M. so be sure to wear your dancing shoes!
i really must suggest that you check out this show.
anne summers (3 guys not a folk singing girl) are a
great power pop band from the d.c. area. some of their
influences include the smiths, billy bragg, weezer, etc.
their live act is always a whole lot of fun too.
evelyn forever are also cute power pop. they've played
with anne summers before down here and they're quite
lively.
and of course the hang ups!!! whee. i swear they're
one of my new favourite bands. their live act is super
sweet. their lead singer brian is like a little rabbit.
cuddly and shy. purr. and there's been a lot of talk
about the hang ups on the list these days so you should
catch em if you're in the area.
and of course mark is spinning the popscene afterwards
and there'll be dancing til 3. if you know anyone who
might want to check this out then fwd it to them. i've
been handing out fliers and feeling like a ninny so i
do hope a number of you show up!
==clip==
hello. i have to work at 8:30 am. poop.
the dj has played b&s when he spun at the mousetrap
[which is coming up 23 october 99 at the metro cafe]
and we need more people to jump around to b&s at this
thing. i'm 99.9999% sure he'll play a few b&s songs.
at the least he'll play one. pulp, the smiths, blur,
etc will be played too i'm sure. so come on come on...
dance dance dance. bleeep. i'll see you there.
if you're sinister and in the dc area and want to join
the sinisterdc list then go join:
http://sinisterdc.listbot.com
basically it's a mini list just to let each other know
when we're doing something in the dc area. picnic time
soon maybe? before the first snowflake falls hopefully?
evol,
madflowr
np: revolver - baby's angry
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From ASpawnyGit at xxx.com Fri Oct 15 09:06:58 1999
From: ASpawnyGit at xxx.com (ASpawnyGit at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 04:06:58 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Do you *Really* feel like dancing?
Message-ID: <0.b369e393.25383aa2@aol.com>
OK. After a night of being dragged to the local "Place where all the kids
dance." I had a horrible time. Is it odd to not feel compelled to dance,
even though the music and lights are so enticing? If you have ever seen the
movie "Kids" then you know the part where the girl walks into the
club...lights flashing, music bouncing, dark shady characters come up to her.
That's my story, only I didn't take any drugs and I didn't get sexually
molested afterward. Nonetheless.....my mates abroad tell me everyone dances
at the clubs...and I feel like I might not be so cool once I make it to
Glasgow...cause I would rather find a corner full of darkness to smoke
cigarettes and drink beer and hope some nice girl will sit down and relate to
my uneasiness. Anyway, cheers. From Knoxville, TN. Sorry...this is totally
unrelated to belle and sebastian.
-Bradley
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From coool_air at xxx.com Fri Oct 15 10:15:25 1999
From: coool_air at xxx.com (Claire Timmins)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 02:15:25 PDT
Subject: Sinister: kool klubbing
Message-ID: <19991015091525.74463.qmail@hotmail.com>
darlings. I have some amazing news that will interest you all. TONIGHT, yes
TONIGHT..ooo shes the girl with the curls in her haiair...Not only are the
best tunes wiggling their way down to the lovely underground site of the
13th note cafe but the booze, I said BOOZE paula, is dead cheap. yeeha!!!!
1 pound a spirit and mixer if you cant make it you're a fool. And i mean
that sincerely.
Oh aye - im still pissed from last night.
see youse all later then?
Klur**
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From david at xxx.uk Fri Oct 15 09:54:21 1999
From: david at xxx.uk (David Kitchen)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:54:21 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Adverts
References: <199910142016.VAA26751@smtp.saqnet.co.uk>
Message-ID: <3806EBBD.F54BF91B@jeepster.co.uk>
Chris Jones wrote:
>
> Can anybody tell me what that song is on the CGU advert. The chorus is 'We
> Could Be Heroes'. I'm sure I'm supposed to know what it is, but I don't,
> and it's great.
>
> Chris Jones.
it's david bowie and 'heroes' from the album of the same name, the amazon listing
and reviews can be found here;
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00001OH7V/jeepsterrecord0a
cheers
david
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From martin at xxx.uk Fri Oct 15 11:43:23 1999
From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:43:23 +0000
Subject: Sinister: The Kids from Degrassi Street
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19991015104323.0071bad0@ampsys.co.uk>
Dear all,
Thank you all kindly for your concern over my hot water and the Gas board
situation*. It has finally been resolved and that lingering smell I was
fostering / festering has been warmly showered off*. I can only apologise
to all those out at the wonderful Hefners the other night for having to
experience my lingering stink*. Only joking*! I don't give a toss really*.
My brother is cool*. It's official*. He came round with the Spearmint
album, as heralded in the latest delightful Papercuts issue, and let me
borrow it*. Then he analysed Hefner and mentioned their similarity to
Wreckless Eric*. But then he blew it all by going back to being a boring
old tosser and whittering on about golf again*. But for one minute there I
almost acknowledged his existence*. Only joking*! I don't give a toss really*.
As for that Tim Hopkins what a streaming wet unbridled aclohol induced lump
of excretion he really is. And remember kids that was just for fun*.
Why doesn't anyone talk about Pokemon on the list*?
And while on the intercourse theme and the Atlantic divide in its
linguistic reference could someone eleborate on the baseball analogy for
courting*. That is, what exactly has to be done to be on 1st, 2nd, 3rd base
and get a home run*. And do you get anything for a bunt*? Gosh, that's all
made me feel like a bit of "dancing" now*. Anyone up for it*?
Te ra,
Martin
ear confection recordings
(http://www.send.demon.co.uk)
* - bollocks
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From bellezc at xxx.com Fri Oct 15 13:31:10 1999
From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 05:31:10 PDT
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <19991015123111.39983.qmail@hotmail.com>
OK.I'm sorry everybody if I'm wining.I know,I don't seem that pleasant.But
please do spare mo.I mean I've moved in another country for the next 4
years.It's only natural,don't you think?And you,Dan Hooper,stop picking on
me.I was just sharing my inner thoughts with you guys.When I first read the
messages on the list even though we're all strangers to each other,it felt
really cosy.Sorry.Honestly.I'm actually in a bad mood these days and it's
all about love.It always is.
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From bfundak at xxx.org Fri Oct 15 13:40:28 1999
From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:40:28 -0400 (EWT)
Subject: Sinister: Long night
Message-ID:
Hello my musical support group. I don't know why I always feel the need
to express my thoughts or talk about my personal life on this list,
especially since it is not particularly exciting or interesting but I do.
A particularly horrible week has become worse--last night they admitted my
mom to the hospital. Something is seriously wrong with her and before I
left the hospital last night she handed me paperwork for a living will,
telling me that my brother and I would have power of attorney. I don't
really want to deal with that. It's bad enough that my grandparents are
falling apart--now my mom too. Then my brother told me that he and my dad
had a blow out last night. My dad is such an ass, and less than a man,
because he is gutless and a horrible father.
I came to work today, because I needed something to focus on; not to worry
about things that I have no control of. My mom encouraged me to do so.
I sometimes feel that when I vent like this I am being self centered. I
mean what makes my problems so much bigger than everyone else's? I mean,
because really they aren't. But they seem like it to me.
I don't know. Maybe I never will.
Brandt
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From jasonandreas at xxx.net Fri Oct 15 14:19:53 1999
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:19:53 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Long night
References:
Message-ID: <004501bf170f$f8ddd8a0$25033c3e@default>
Fuck what other people think. If telling your problems to the list makes you
feel even 0.0000001% better, then it's worth it, and none of us have the
right to grudge you for it.
Good luck with everything, man, and I hope that your mum gets better soon.
-- Jason Andreas
-- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people
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From: Brandt Fundak
To:
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Subject: Sinister: Long night
>
> Hello my musical support group. I don't know why I always feel the need
> to express my thoughts or talk about my personal life on this list,
> especially since it is not particularly exciting or interesting but I do.
>
> A particularly horrible week has become worse--last night they admitted my
> mom to the hospital. Something is seriously wrong with her and before I
> left the hospital last night she handed me paperwork for a living will,
> telling me that my brother and I would have power of attorney. I don't
> really want to deal with that. It's bad enough that my grandparents are
> falling apart--now my mom too. Then my brother told me that he and my dad
> had a blow out last night. My dad is such an ass, and less than a man,
> because he is gutless and a horrible father.
>
> I came to work today, because I needed something to focus on; not to worry
> about things that I have no control of. My mom encouraged me to do so.
>
> I sometimes feel that when I vent like this I am being self centered. I
> mean what makes my problems so much bigger than everyone else's? I mean,
> because really they aren't. But they seem like it to me.
>
> I don't know. Maybe I never will.
>
> Brandt
>
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From jbaze at xxx.com Fri Oct 15 15:27:08 1999
From: jbaze at xxx.com (Josh Baze)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:27:08 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Do Not Open This Jealousy-Inducing Email!
Message-ID: <072439845C05D311A3E90004ACB8B73410D264@REVEXCHANGE>
Hello everyone,
I wanted to share with you the good cd shopping fortune I had last night!
For a grand total of $28 dollars (1,215 rupees, or 8,469 drachmas) I picked
up:
Momus- the little red song book (original!)
Hefner- breaking God's heart
Exodus Quartet- way out there
John Lennon- plastic ono band
I'm pretty excited about all this, and thought you all may be able to
appreciate it. Did see two copies of Tigermilk (new), and plenty of used
Richard Marx.
have great weekends, everyone.
headphones set to stun-
Josh
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From acook at xxx.uk Fri Oct 15 18:12:44 1999
From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:12:44 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Oh, it makes me MMMAD!
Message-ID: <3807608C.AC7E98E4@cs.strath.ac.uk>
Deary me, what an annoying day yesterday. While waiting for a bus I
realised that someone had nicked the batteries I was going to put in my
walkman from my pocket, along with my chewing gum. This meant that I had
to sit on a bus for half an hour without music, which is rubbish in
itself. Bloody hell, what a tragic state of affairs I hear you say,
surely things cannot get any worse. Well chums, they did. I got to the
club where Vic Godard was playing only to find out the bleedin' gig had
been cancelled. Bollocks. Then I played pool for the rest of the night,
missed my last bus home by literally 20 seconds and had to pay 14 quid
for a taxi home. Double bollocks.
Anyway, Keith:
> and it will feature the DJ-ing "talents" of myself, Claire
> Timmins, Mick and Alasdair Cooke (not Alasdair from the list, but Mick (48)
> Cooke's Brother).
Bloody hell, bet that gave every Glasgow listee a stroke. Keith would
have to be barmy to let me and my record collection loose on an
unsuspecting public. I mean there'd be no 70s WHO for a start. Mind you,
Klur's doing it and she freely admits to being shit, so I suppose
anything goes.
Steve:
> Didn't you just bloody know that we would get England in the Euro 2000
> play-offs?.I mean granted if we qualify at their expense it'll be yay! and
> dancing in the streets,but what if THEY win?.(I'll reach for the razor-blades
> and end it all).On a more positive note,we could have a sinister
> Scotland/England thing...poetry and lyric reciting,singing and dancing rather
> than thugs jumping on each other's heads.Imagine.
Can't we jump on each other's heads instead, it'd be far more fun.
During my trips down to London it's been all I can do to stop myself
laying into all those English types with a garden chair and a pitchfork.
Perhaps we should all congregate in a pub in Switzerland to watch the
games. Do you know in today's Daily Record, the first 8 pages (plus the
back 7 pages) are taken up with stuff about the game. Far more important
than those silly Scottish fighter pilots who died, who are deservingly
on page 9.
Juicy:
> Just realised that parentheses must be as catchy as crabs because I've
> obviously caught brackets off somebody on this list. Better than rickets I
> suppose. But you can't catch rickets because it's caused by vitamin
> deficiency or something.
Vitamin D deficiency to be precise. And vitamin A deficiency causes
night-blindness, vitamin B deficiency causes beri beri and vitamin C
deficiency causes scurvy. That may be the single most boring thing I've
ever said (which is saying something), but I've just realised it's about
the only thing I've ever read that I can remember, apart from stuff
about football.
Martin:
> And while on the intercourse theme and the Atlantic divide in its
> linguistic reference could someone eleborate on the baseball analogy for
> courting*. That is, what exactly has to be done to be on 1st, 2nd, 3rd base
> and get a home run*.
Let me explain Martin.
1st base: This involves seeing a pretty girl who works in a cafe,
bookshop or record store, and frequenting the establishment as much as
possible. A form of stalking if you will, only without the need to hide
behind lamposts.
2nd base: This involves finding out the girl's name. It might be
"Brenda" or "Alison" or even "Moon Unit".
3rd base: This involves touching. Don't get scared now kids, I'm talking
about cunningly brushing up against said girl, perhaps while she is
serving coffee or rearranging the sale items. Bonus points are scored if
you can get her to brush up against your naughty bits. Even more bonus
points are scored if you can get her naughty bits to brush against your
naughty bits.
Home run: This involves talking. Since your mouth will be very dry, it
is prudent to carry an emergency flask of ribena as a saliva substitute.
This will also mean that you will smell nice, like blackberries. Go up
to the girl, say "hello, my name is (insert name). I like you" in a
squeaky voice, then run as fast as you can until you get home (hence the
term "home run") and never go back into the shop ever again. If you do
go back the girl may say that she likes you back, which would be
disastrous and could lead to the rubbing of naughty bits WITHOUT
CLOTHES. This is too be avoided at all costs as you will inevitably be
TOO SMALL and will eventually have to kill yourself.
Hope that clarifies things for you Robbo.
I'm off to pull loads of birds my passing myself off as Mick Cooke's
brother. This'll be too easy.
Alasdair xx
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From susannah at xxx.net Fri Oct 15 20:09:36 1999
From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 99 19:09:36 GMT
Subject: Sinister: I wonder what you people do with your lives
Message-ID: <991015190936.n0029870.garton@mail.clara.net>
Kids.
Morrisey!
Did you all see Harry Hill 'do' Morrisey on Celebrity Stars in their Eyes last
Saturday? Fantastic. I've seen Trousers 'do' Morrisey too, and that was also
equally fantastic. Do you remember that guy who used to hang round Highbury
Garage on a permanent Morrisey trip? If you know him or have seen him recently
then write in stating whether he still is. Closing date next Wednesday.
Sean Hughes!
My crush grows ever larger. Ever time I see him on Never mind the Buzzcocks I
wet my pants(again).Last time i was watching it with my Dad and Dad kept making
very lewd comments about Marianne Faithfull who was on at the time. Its really
disturbing to hear your Dad going on about Mars Bars and where to shove them.
Anyway Sean used to always be hanging at the bar at the Garage getting pissed.
Is he still? I've spoken to him once or twice but just sort of 'alright Sean?'
and thats as far as it goes. He lives in North London too, but where Kids?
where?
Rumour has it he was/is going out with 'What is this remerkable antiperspirant?'
girl. Is this all old hat? Its hard to keep up.
Oh, yes. Blokes in hairbands. Gorgeous. First there was the Karate kid when you
were twelve, theres been footballers in hairbands like Cannigio and Berger, and
that one of Ready Steady Cook! Everyone please start wearing hairbands.
Pornography!
New programme on Channel 4, very interesting in a purely historical kind of way.
My friend Becca has a whole set of coasters with all the Pompeii pictures on and
I'm quite jealous. If anyone sees them for sale then will you get them for us
and I'll pay you back.
Susannah xxx
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From jasonandreas at xxx.net Fri Oct 15 20:07:11 1999
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 20:07:11 +0100
Subject: Sinister: I saw a dog on wheels today :)
Message-ID: <002601bf1740$7ebb1980$77023c3e@default>
Just when you think that for the first time in your life you've found a
group of people that you can relate to and become friends with, you realise
that you can't fucking well do *anything* about it because you're a fucking
tink with no money and can't even fucking well afford the fucking bus fare
to the place where they're all having a night out. And you're embarassed
because every time one of them invites you (about nine, so far) you have to
turn around and bastarding well explain for the umpteenth time that you
can't fucking afford to have a life because you can't find a fucking job
and your family can't/won't help you out in the slightest way and then you
realise that the whole of your fucking life has been like this.
LIFE IS SHIT!
I wish I was fucking dead, but I don't even have the fucking guts!
Ach, fuck this.
-- Jason Andreas
-- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people
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From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 20:07:26 +0100
Subject: Sinister: I saw a dog on wheels today :)
Message-ID: <002701bf1740$87d51de0$77023c3e@default>
Just when you think that for the first time in your life you've found a
group of people that you can relate to and become friends with, you realise
that you can't fucking well do *anything* about it because you're a fucking
tink with no money and can't even fucking well afford the fucking bus fare
to the place where they're all having a night out. And you're embarassed
because every time one of them invites you (about nine, so far) you have to
turn around and bastarding well explain for the umpteenth time that you
can't fucking afford to have a life because you can't find a fucking job
and your family can't/won't help you out in the slightest way and then you
realise that the whole of your fucking life has been like this.
LIFE IS SHIT!
I wish I was fucking dead, but I don't even have the fucking guts!
Ach, fuck this.
- ME
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From jasonandreas at xxx.net Fri Oct 15 20:07:42 1999
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 20:07:42 +0100
Subject: Sinister: I saw a dog on wheels today :)
Message-ID: <002f01bf1740$8f54ac20$77023c3e@default>
Just when you think that for the first time in your life you've found a
group of people that you can relate to and become friends with, you realise
that you can't fucking well do *anything* about it because you're a fucking
tink with no money and can't even fucking well afford the fucking bus fare
to the place where they're all having a night out. And you're embarassed
because every time one of them invites you (about nine, so far) you have to
turn around and bastarding well explain for the umpteenth time that you
can't fucking afford to have a life because you can't find a fucking job
and your family can't/won't help you out in the slightest way and then you
realise that the whole of your fucking life has been like this.
LIFE IS SHIT!
I wish I was fucking dead, but I don't even have the fucking guts!
Ach, fuck this.
- ME
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From jasonandreas at xxx.net Fri Oct 15 20:09:34 1999
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 20:09:34 +0100
Subject: Sinister: A big outlook express 5 mess up
Message-ID: <004b01bf1740$d4036000$77023c3e@default>
Sorry, but the last 'mail' from me to the list seems to have sent to you all
the last message that I recieved in my inbox, something someone was telling
me about money problems, I hope that it didn't offend anyone. Sorry :(
-- Jason Andreas
-- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people
ICQ: 45821217
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From dhooper at xxx.com Fri Oct 15 22:54:42 1999
From: dhooper at xxx.com (Dan Hooper)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:54:42 -0700
Subject: Sinister: Please excuse my big feet
Message-ID:
Howdy all you sinister kids,
Seem I inadvertently trod upon zoe's toes in my last post, and for
this I sincerely apologize. My intention was not to hurt anyone's
feeling or cast aspersions upon anyone's home, but merely to suggest
some fun in the sun. I am sorry if my humor missed it's mark. I meant
no disrespect or to make a new member feel bad.
I would also like to thank all those of you for your messages of
condolence for my recent heartache, even those who upbraided me for
my foolishness (thanks and smiles Brandt). I'm still tumbling down
the road towards hopeless romanticism, I'm still searching for my
soulmate (which I obviously still believe in), and I still don't love
anyone in particular (except maybe my sister, though I do love all of
you for your indulgence and kindness). Anyway, I'm back to my old
happy, cashmere-socks wearing self, wishing I were downing
boddington's with b & s loving people in a dark warm pub and falling
in love with a sweet pickish girl with a soft warm accent.
Oh well, I'll live vicariously through the sinister postings. I
remember, not so long ago, there were some rather forward party
behaviours reported here. How come none of the parties I go to
devolve to such decadent levels? (well they do, but not before we
have to take the girls home).
Regarding what we call sex: I've always found "making love" a bit too
precious (unless it is said in a Barry White kinda voice), but
otherwise I have to agree with danielle. "Shagging," like so many
britishisms, really captures all fun and dumbness and there is to say
about it, but to use it on this side of the pond makes you sound like
your sending up Austin Powers. "Fuck" and "screw" sound too rude to
use with someone you really like, and the ever popular "do it," and
"hide the salami" can be confusing after a few beers. So I like
"boink" or "bonk." They sound fun, silly, and lighthearted like
"shag," but with out the crushed velvet aftertaste. But the best are
the secret codes we establish with our regular lovers, like "and what
prodigious mowing shall we make?"
Alasdair's explanation of the baseball analogy we yanks use to
describe our sexual exploits is much tamer than what I learned in the
backseat of my father's oldsmobile, but certainly more fitting with
the experiences in my cafe. For a graphic depiction of the more
traditional take on this analogy listen to "Paradise By The Dashboard
Light" from Meatloaf's first Bat Out of Hell Album (I wouldn't
necessarily buy it, but with the number of units that album continues
to sell, you might be surprized at who you might borrow it from). A
homerun is pretty obvious, but the bases are harder to pin down. They
seem to vary depending on geographic location, education, and
socio-economic background of the participants. I've even heard it
differ between the participants (The boy: "I didn't go any further
than first base, after all it was only our third date" The girl: "He
was so close to home it wasn't even funny. I guess he doesn't like
me.").
And just for the record, I love the gentle wind LP and still think
Isobel is babe. I too make passes at girls who were glasses. With
that I bid you good weekend and
All the best
Daniel Hooper
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From vlass at xxx.com Fri Oct 15 23:23:51 1999
From: vlass at xxx.com (vlass at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:23:51 -0400
Subject: Sinister: they'll take your money and never give up
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19991015222351.00aaf04c@mail.interlog.com>
hello..
martin brought up this subject:
>The Kids from Degrassi Street
and my ears perked..
because all the degrassi shows were filmed right here in toronto, i'm always
surprised by the fact that the whole world knows about the antics of joey,
wheels, spike and ick. i SEE various members of the show around the city
sometimes! really! i bumped into one of the twins (you know, long brown
curly hair. everyone knows the classic operation when one of them gets an
abortion) in the bathroom at school once, and then i saw her walking down
the street another time. *gasp* i even sat behind liz (the one with the
bangs and shaved head - joey jeremiah thought she would have sex with him,
and casually dropped condoms on her coffee table, heee) during a screening
of the movie "the red violin". and, on top of all of that, i KNOW someone
who actually *lived* on degrassi street this past summer.
the show has stopped running, but the legacy lives on...
teri
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From sloyd at xxx.au Fri Oct 15 11:28:26 1999
From: sloyd at xxx.au (spencer lloyd)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:28:26 +0800
Subject: Sinister: Heaven sent an angel
Message-ID: <4.1.19991015175830.009402a0@mail.omen.net.au>
It's a Friday nite and you are feeling sorta frisky, so you decide to head
down to your friendly neighbourhood beat near the lake, in the hope of
finding some cute boi to scratch your itch. You slink around the area
trying to avoid the gazes of the sinister middle age men who give casual
sex a bad name, when you eye catches a luscious young thing sitting
forlornly on a damp bench. He has the look of a Bernard Sumner circa The
Perfect Kiss, and that is enough to drag your nervous feet over his way.
After making awkward small talk you get down to business. So you are down
on your knees and you are listening to the noises around you; the crickets
beside the lake, the cars zooming past on the nearby highway, and the
obvious slurping sounds of love. But another noise makes it's way into the
cold nite air; someone is singing under their breathe, it's Mr Sumner above
you. You wonder if you should be offended, and begin to have doubts about
your technique. But curiosity gets the better of you and you focus your
ears to work what he is singing "I try to reach the halo, but desire just
not strong enough". You know that song. "Revolver" you say. He looks down
at you in bemusement obviously thinking that you are making some strange
phallic reference. "No the song you were singing, it was by Revolver
right?". "Oh yeah" he mutters. "I was listening to the album before I left
tonite." "I had to steal the CD of my brother because i could no longer
find it in the shops" you say. He smiles slightly, and there is an awkward
pause before you return to the task at hand. He makes not a sound for the
rest of the encounter, except to say 'thankyou', he even mutes his primal
orgasmic screams.
And so you are walking home feeling particularly dirty, and decidedly
unsatisfied, and you think to yourself 'oh well at least he had decent
taste in music."
blessed be
spencer lloyd
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
stillness is a lie, my dear
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From scott.rowland at xxx.net Fri Oct 15 23:39:10 1999
From: scott.rowland at xxx.net (Scott Rowland)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 23:39:10 +0100
Subject: Sinister: where wine, dance and music is the name of the game.....
Message-ID: <003301bf175f$be547040$2d25fad4@Scott.Rowland>
evenin' all
if you want to feel better then compare your life against mine........
it's friday night and i went to the pub after work but instead of staying
out and getting boozed up i am now at home watching transformers:the
movie..........
oh and if anyones going to salako at the borderline next friday and fancies
a couple of pints before get in touch
anyway must go optimus prime and megatron are about to have their final
battle.
luv hugs n stuff
scottie
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From gedole at xxx.com Sat Oct 16 00:19:21 1999
From: gedole at xxx.com (Gregory Dole)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:19:21 PDT
Subject: Sinister: introduction and sex talk
Message-ID: <19991015231921.38322.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hi,
I'd like to introduce myself after a month or two of lurking.
My name is Greg Dole, I am from Ottawa, Canada, I am currently working in
the U.S. of A., and I like a certain band from Scotland.
I would like to weigh in on the sex euphemism (spelling?) discussion. To my
amusement, my american colleagues use the expression "getting the job done."
This working class approach to sex gets me laughing every time someone talks
about a sexual escapade. Here's me: Hey Mike, what did you do last night?
Mike: Well, me and Suzie had a bottle of wine and then we spent the night
getting the job done.
That's humour if you ask me. Note that I use the term getting the job done
without reference to myself. Why? I'm honest.
Other favourites include horizontal jogging and the horizontal mambo.
However, both are a bit too wordy, so I generally stick with getting the job
done.
I find great humour in the term getting the job done, and as I often hear it
misused in everyday conversation, the humour value is times ten. Basically I
like getting the job done, shabloinking and horizontal jogging, I don't mind
shagging, but you won't find me talking about fuck*ng or making love. Of
course, that's just my opinion, and I'm easily amused. And I'll end here
because this is a hell of a long email about nothing.
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From littlearsonist at xxx.com Sat Oct 16 01:09:51 1999
From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:09:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: my little mouth, my winter lungs
Message-ID: <19991016000951.29411.rocketmail@web120.yahoomail.com>
--- spencer lloyd wrote:
[a lot of dirty things]
dear lord! did this really happen???
anyway, hey-ho, darlings!
'tis ree. i have just finished putting on a coat of
glittery nail polish, getting ready to go out salsa
dancing in a few hours! is there anything sexier than
salsa? those hips! now i've got to find something as
tight and glamourous as i can get away with. (oh! i
am listening to miss KIMberly's radio show right now,
and she has just put on hefner's hymn for the
cigarettes -- damnit! i've fallen for hefner!)
so, red lips, sparkly nails, tight black dress,
ridiculously high platform shoes, a shot (or two or
three) of absolut au kurant and i am Set to salsa!
what is all this talk of boys liking girls in glasses?
why don't you all live near Me?? well, you can't
tell by the pic i sent honey (shameless plug for crush
votes -- dear! i never thought i'd be saying that!),
but i Do wear glasses, and damnit, why aren't there
boys here who thing that's sexy? or at least
nice-looking. hmph! (ree flounces away.)
(ree comes back.)
i have recently discovered for myself the innocence
mission's "birds of my neighborhood." it is
Exquisite. truly beautiful, like a snowflake or a
silver bell. really.
(oh, kimmy has just put on the promise ring record.)
the baseball-as-sex analogy was knock-me-on-my-ass
funny. for reals. and as for third base... don't we
all know it's just "like warm apple pie"?? heh
heh...
can i just give massive props to everyone on this
list? i love you all, and i love all yr stories, and
today i love Everyone. especially christmas.
take care, y'all.
xoxo,
ree-dawg in full effect.
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From steven.kado at xxx.ca Fri Oct 15 13:07:52 1999
From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:07:52 -0400
Subject: Sinister: the zit remedy sensation is sweeping the....
References: <1.5.4.32.19991015222351.00aaf04c@mail.interlog.com>
Message-ID: <38071918.A31BF1C8@utoronto.ca>
vlass at interlog.com wrote:
>
> hello..
>
> martin brought up this subject:
> >The Kids from Degrassi Street
> and my ears perked..
as did mine! hooray for the mighty CBC's most enduring export (with the
possible exception of glenn gould and the kids in the hall)!
like all torontonians of 'a certain age' i have much degrassi lore to
spread about thickly. most notably i keep running into the token black
girl on the show, but i forget her real name. also, there was a fellow
who ran for school president back when i was in grade 10 who's platform
included addressing our rotund principal exclusively as 'big poppa' and
erecting a statue of joey, wheels and snake on the front lawn of mighty
northern secondary. the memories are just too much....does anyone
remember claude? what a poor guy. i don't remember for sure but i bet
he listened to alot of cure records on the show.
also, my old band King Carp used to play a reggae version of the
ZitRemedy's 'everybody's got something...' song, and a friend's punk
band used to play the degrassi themesong too.
> the show has stopped running, but the legacy lives on...
s'true. when my friend marc and i were in france (in nice to be
precise) the two things we would watch on TV were the 8am french rap
music videos (i'm more partial to Akhenaton and IAM than i am to MC
Solar) and the poorly dubbed version of Degrassi that aired around 4pm.
something about being in the exotic land of the prisunic and pastis made
seeing a dowdy canadian 'no frills' supermarket on tv bizzarely
reassuring. i wrote a teary letter home about the very same thing.
oh, and does anyone remember when they went to the strip club? i think
it was the one on queen east near that mr. tasty restaurant or
something....another boffo degrassi moment.
steven kado
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From Catspaw1 at xxx.com Sat Oct 16 03:49:42 1999
From: Catspaw1 at xxx.com (Catspaw1 at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 22:49:42 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Nice noise
Message-ID: <0.cf69cb34.253941c6@aol.com>
someone mentioned other bands we liked.
I suggest that the curious check out Stephen Duffy's The Lilac Time and the
new CD Looking for a Day in the Night... The recommendation I followed made
comparisons to both B&S and Nick Drake... I can see that, I suppose... I
also like the following description: "the prettiest bitter pill you're likely
to swallow for some time..."
B Clay
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From Patrick.Scragg at xxx.com Sat Oct 16 04:20:00 1999
From: Patrick.Scragg at xxx.com (Patrick Scragg)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 23:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinister: High Fidelity/Stuart Murdoch
Message-ID: <19991016032639.UXDQ607@localHost>
I've been away from the Sinister list for a quite a while
(about 3 weeks). Good lord - What a HUGE back log of posts to read!
I was away visiting some with some friends who informed me of some
fantastic news (that is, if it's true) - Nick Horby's excellent first
novel, 'High Fidelity,' is being made into a movie - even better,
the soundtrack is to include contributions from Belle and Sebastian!
Too good to be true? You tell me! As I've said, I've been out
of the Sinister loop for a while, so allow me to apologize in advance
if this information is way old!
Those of you fortunate enough to have had the opportunity to see
B&S live, your opinion is needed here as well. A B&S fan who saw the
band in Athens, GA a year ago said that she was quite surprised to
see the band in the flesh; she described Isobel and Sarah as very
short and hefty (though sweet) - not at all like the waifish model-types
she had envisioned; Stuart D. was tall and lurpy, somewhat handsome,
while Mick, Stevie and the other guys were pretty vanilla-looking.
She was most captivated by Stuart M - who was a complete contradiction
to the notion of being "twee" - she described as him as tall and
surprisingly "buff" - like he could kick some serious idie-ass if
provoked - and not too handsome.
W H A T? At the time she told me this (by the way, she's a
fashion major or something) all I could picture of the band was
pro-basketball player Gheorghe Muresan on guitar, Carnie Wilson
and Mama Cass singing/playing at the sides, and out in front of
the band - Rambo or Henry Rollins with a acoustic guitar...
"Yo - we're Belle and uhhhh."
I was fascinated by her take on the band's appearance, and
have since disproved (for the most part) her bizarre version (thanks
to the few B&S pictures on the web and in the music press)!
Those of you who have seen B&S - is their some validity to her
story? Just curious! Please share your first impressions!
Have a great weekend!
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From daftpunk at xxx.au Sat Oct 16 07:37:56 1999
From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 14:37:56 +0800 (WST)
Subject: Sinister: Earshot!:)
Message-ID:
Hey dear friends, long time no write!:)
Just saw "Earshot", that mythically almost-banned episode of the BEST
programme on telly that is "Buffy" (I live in Australia btw) and am simply
stunned at the awesomeness of it. "Earshot" of course was banned because
it deals with the Buffster developing telepathic powers and 'overhearing'
that someone is planning to massacre everyone in the school. Unfortunately
she starts going mad due to her powers and it's up to the scooby gang to
solve the mystery.
I guess I can understand why this episode was postponed. Its similarities
to the Columbine thing are eerily prescient (it was filmed BEFORE that
whole tragedy) with characters saying lines like, "Who hasn't idly thought
of taking out the whole school with a semi-automatic?" But "Buffy" deals
with such a controversial topic in such an intelligent and moving,and
most of all responsible way, it truly transcends any controversy
associated with such a topic. The geek who has been ignored the whole
time, who at first looks like he's trying to take out the whole school, is
only trying to kill himself. The real murderer is the **** (don't wanna
spoil it for people who haven't seen it, but it's a witty take on a common
high school fear). Buffy's speech to Jonathan is so beautiful and so
poignant and so PURE, it is a moment of dramatic intensity unmatched by
most other tv shows (although common to "Buffy" of course). Absolutely
amazing.
When Buffy starts hearing all the voices, we are let into a wonderful
slice of high schoolers' thoughts ranging from "i hate my body" to "she
doesn't even notice me".Again, painfully poignant. No other series has so
accurately depicted the loneliness and confusion of high school. It lets
us relive those painful years through these characters.
I also love how Buffy first of all uses her power for humourous gain, but
then it descends into a nightmarish realm where she can't stop hearing the
din of voices.Another aspect of the greatness of "Buffy" is how it can mix such powerful
intense drama with effortless wit and humour. That and of course flawless
acting from the ensemble especially Sarah Michelle Gellar, who if ignored
for an Emmy nomination AGAIN next year, just confirms how stupid and blind
the Emmy voting committee is.
For me watching "Earshot" was a lot like hearing "Tigermilk" for the first
time. I'd been anticipating both for a very long time and when I finally
experienced them, my high expectations were exceeded.
WHEW! got that off my chest. Anyone who has seen this classic episode,
feel free to comment, would love to hear some views.
Till next time, luvvies
Kin Woo
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From biberonette at xxx.com Sat Oct 16 08:42:02 1999
From: biberonette at xxx.com (adele h)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 07:42:02 GMT
Subject: Sinister: more introductions and all that nonsense
Message-ID: <19991016074203.52745.qmail@hotmail.com>
heya everyone,
yay! i'm finally let out of my crib in the nursery, so please be gentle with
me -- i promise not to nick anyone's toys or be narky etc. etc. anyhow, this
means that it's time for a wee introduction -- my name's melissa and i'm in
paris doing my studies in cinematography. but see, i'm getting a tad too
lonely for my own good because i don't actually know many people here, well,
not many with similar interests, so if you're in the vicinity, could you
give us a holler, pretty please? it's getting boring drinking tea alone, and
the increasingly nippy weather isn't helping at all. (so, to zoe from
greece: i can empathise...) i'm turning twenty-three in a month, should i be
stoked about that? sorry for sounding a little whingey, but i'm still trying
to get over the fact that england's drawn against scotland for the play-offs
-- here's my quandary: technically, i ought to be rooting for the three
lions, but in all honesty, the team's rather shitey, innit? we had to bloody
rely on the good grace of the swedes. and i've been secretly wishing for the
scottish team to win so as to teach england a lesson, but if my mates get to
hear of this, i'll never be forgiven. toughie. oops. am i ranting a tad too
much about footie? i don't have any b&s-related swear words at the moment,
but it wouldn't take too long to come up with a list, but i promise not to
rattle them off in public... anyhow, enough of my yammering, i suppose.
cheers,
-melissa-
p.s. and to brandt: hope your mum's feeling better, and you're not being
self-centred to talk about your problems -- it releases pent-up emotions, so
by all means, talk your frustrations and confusion out, okay?
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From markniciu at xxx.com Sat Oct 16 08:57:26 1999
From: markniciu at xxx.com (Mark Niciu)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:57:26 PDT
Subject: Sinister: Attention: Felt heads
Message-ID: <19991016075727.89835.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey blokes and birds,
A friend of mine introduced me to the splendor and the mystery of Felt
earlier this year, and I am as attracted to and enamored by Lawrence and
company as I am by Murdoch and crew. Does anyone out in Belle and Sebastian
land own any live recordings of Felt? Lawrence's admiration of Television
and Tom Verlaine is well known, and, given Richard Lloyd's tendency to "jam"
in concert, I assume Maurice Deebank often did the same. Anyway, songs like
"Birdmen" and "The Stagnant Pool" have long guitar solos built-in. It would
be an absolute delight if anyone had such recordings to share because
Deebank's virtuosity on the guitar is unmatched (among 1980s guitarists,
only Johnny Marr and Will Sergeant of Echo and the Bunnymen are in the same
league as Mo).
Felt and Denim web page: http://jeigh.com/felt/index1.html
Mark
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From zutroy at xxx.org Sat Oct 16 09:14:38 1999
From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 04:14:38 -0400
Subject: Sinister: thanks for the advice, tho i didn't use any of it
Message-ID:
well, it's 4am and i've returned home from 6 hours at the wonderful seth's
house. to the person who gave me advice on how to ask him if he was seeing
anybody, i didn't use it because i didn't need to. a friend informed me
earlier today that he is indeed very single.
anyway, let's start with some B&S content:
"i don't love anyone" is a great song and all, but i think it may be back
to "my wandering days are over," for me.
so tonight i went to seth's house to see if i could get my groove on. okay,
not exactly. but i did have the intention of letting my feelings be known,
or doing something about them, or both. so i show up at 10pm, figuring it's
late enough for me to say i was bored and ask if they minded if i joined
them in front of the television, as i have none. serendiptously there's a
seat next to seth. so i take it. for the first, say, hour i'm there he's
acting a little cold. in fact, it kind of felt like i was next to a large
block of ice. i think he thought i'd blown him off since i hadn't gone to
visit at all this past week (d'oh). anyway, after a little flirting he
warmed up some more, and we spent a good 5 hours on the sofa enmeshed in
one another, and kissed a little for the last hour. not much, as an ex
boyfriend of mine was in the room, and that's just a little awkward. he
wasn't facing us or anything, but still. oh, and there's a webcam in the
living room. so it's a little strange to know that not only were my 5 hours
of cuddling with this boy broadcast all over the planet, but that people i
know may have been watching. especially since my housemates said they would
check me out while i was over there. but i think it's kind of neat that my
first kisses with this boy were sent out all over the globe.
an evil mean part of me hopes his ex girlfriend decided to take a look at
the webcam tonight. but that's not a very strong part. mostly i'm just
happy. i was sad to go, but i have to be up at 9am (i wasn't planning on
staying later than 1am, honest) to make a champagne breakfast for a
housemate who's having her birthday tomorrow, then it's off to a seminar
for prospective students to talk about my thesis. and here i am writing
emails to strangers.
and if teri's reading this, i'll tell you all about it tomorrow, i swear.
although i may be asleep when you call. i plan on napping heavily when i
get back from the seminar. i was going to go to new hampshire to buy
cigarettes, but that'll have to wait until sunday, i guess.
thank you for listening, and listening to my progression from jon, to
losing jon, to getting over jon, to falling for seth. i'm happy.
-kerry
"two pathways diverged in a cell and i
i took the cataboic path less travelled by
and that has made all the ATP"
-amy norton
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From markniciu at xxx.com Sat Oct 16 09:12:53 1999
From: markniciu at xxx.com (Mark Niciu)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 01:12:53 PDT
Subject: Sinister: Anyone for "best of" lists?
Message-ID: <19991016081253.11085.qmail@hotmail.com>
It's me again. Insomnia is ravaging at this wee hour of the morning. As
there appears to be no new Belle and Sebastian news to report and the end of
the decade is rapidly approaching (the first that I've lived through
cognizant of music minus any Disney tracks), is anyone up for "best of"
lists, e.g. "Top 25 Albums of the Decade", "Top 50 Songs of the Decade",
"Top 10 Guitarists", "Songwriters", etc.? If anyone is interested in rating
the best (or worst), I'm game as this should provide plenty of grist for our
sinister mill until the release of Belle and Sebastian's new LP. Give me a
few days to think and I'll start off the fun with a "Top 25 Albums of the
Decade" list.
Mark
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From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sat Oct 16 09:43:33 1999
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 09:43:33 +0100
Subject: Sinister: I'm joining the ranks of writers :)
Message-ID: <00bf01bf17b2$88c6a300$0f023c3e@default>
Hi folks,
A contract popped through my door this morning regarding the inclusion of
one of my short stories in an anthology project. It might not mean riches
and fame, but at least, for the first time in my life, it's made me feel
that maybe I *can* be a writer after all!
I'm deleriously happy!!!! I want to run along a beach in the moonlight,
thanking everyone who's ever helped me get this far!!!!!
WHEEEEE!
-- Jason Andreas
-- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people
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From honey at xxx.net Sat Oct 16 13:43:59 1999
From: honey at xxx.net (Honey)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 13:43:59 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: Anyone for "best of" lists?
In-Reply-To: <19991016081253.11085.qmail@hotmail.com>
Message-ID:
Mark said:
> is anyone up for "best of" lists, e.g. "Top 25 Albums of the Decade",
> "Top 50 Songs of the Decade",
> "Top 10 Guitarists", "Songwriters", etc.?
Erm... We've had "lists of lists" episodes on Sinister before (and
in fact "lists of lists of lists") and it's not been good for the
coherence and readability of Sinister: see, it's very easy to wham out
a list of "things I like" with little thought and send it off, so
potentially we might have 1000 of them in each of our mailboxes by
tomorrow morning. And 1000x1000=a lot of mails. I've seen this
decimate other lists in the past and lead to a very low signal-to-noise
ratio, and everyone suddenly starts hitting "delete" and doesn't ever
stop. So we all start mailing stuff blind and not hearing what each
other say. Then the sun explodes and life on earth ceases to be.
My take on this is as follows: you can't do much with a simple list of
"Top 50 Songs" from someone, and if any debate at all ensues it's
usually of the "you're kidding, it's complete shit" family, which is
fun for 10 minutes but tires a bit by next August. So here's the
age-old rule: if you're going to send in a list to Sinister, take the
time to pepper it with *reasons why*, which do encourage debate, and
add a bit of yourself into it. But please we don't want 500 mails
which say:
Hi losers, your lists all suck, here's mine:
1. Abba: The Best Of
2. Roger Whittaker: The Best Of
3. Motorhead: The Gentle Side Of
4. Boney M: The Very Best Of The Best Of
5. Chris Leonard: Fruits Of The Forest
And Bay City Rollers kick ass too. Bye, Miss H xx
No disrespect to Mark by the way: Mark, the other way of doing this,
because lists are made for browsing, is for you to offer to receive all
these lists from people, compile them into a single list, and put up on
the WWW, rather like Lovely Laura LLew's Lovely Literary Lovely List -
I'd be happy to put a link on the Sinister page to it as long as it was
an ongoing thing. It could be Mark's Marvellous Measuring Machine or
something.
Honey x
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From mark.salt at xxx.net Sat Oct 16 22:52:56 1999
From: mark.salt at xxx.net (Mark Salt)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 22:52:56 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Cher stole my fun
Message-ID: <000c01bf1820$e76f14a0$1038a8c2@990122S>
Dear List,
This is my very first post, please be gentle with me.
FIRST and foremost my name is not Mark Salt, as the address would suggest,
it's Hannah.
I was watching your games from a safe distance and wanting to join in but
not feeling brave enough. Then Erica put my picture up and I feel i really
should emerge from the undergrowth and bore you all to death with a post.
I've been skulking and lurking for far too long and it seems a little rude
not to introduce myself.
FOR the obligatory "when i discovered belle and sebastian" story, mine
doesn't quite match up to the excitement of other people's. It was all down
to wonderful Erica's devoted tape making and covers which just made me
listen to them. I wanted to rhapsodise brilliantly over the beauty of b&s,
but I'm really not very good at that sort of thing. The best i can manage is
a mutter of "umm.... i just think they're really good". But the brilliance
crept up on me until i was listening to the tapes every day and i had to buy
CDs to replace them.
THIS IS TERRIBLE
ON a completely unrelated and quite sad subject..........Cher really did
steal my fun you know. I was going to go to Hefner on Monday, and all i had
to do was swap my babysitting times with the girl who does Tuesdays, simple
you may think. And i got my hopes up, and phoned Erica up and got her hopes
up as well. Then i phoned the girl. She said "oh I'm really sorry but i
can't, you see I'm going to see CHER in concert on Monday". Its not fair.
This kind of thing shouldn't be allowed, so I'm offering a reward to anyone
who can stop Cher "performing" on Monday. I don't mind how you achieve this,
steal her crushed leather shell suit perhaps, although obviously the more
creative the better. As for the reward........ it is yet to be decided
although a kiss from Erica is in the running, so get plotting.
love Hannah
xx
pS. the only doll i ever resemble is a cabbage patch doll, don't be fooled.
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From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk Sat Oct 16 23:04:06 1999
From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (sweetie)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 23:04:06 +0100
Subject: Sinister: and the lights went out...
Message-ID: <010a01bf1823$0cbe8e00$673c883e@anne666theasylum>
hello my friends
and how r we all??
good i hope
i am simply super. :)
well yesterday i was away to alton towers with my school. it was great,
oblivian is really kule. :)
the 8hr drive could have been worse, at leat i had my music. :)
but after the first stop something happened.
we all got back on the bus and the inital high had gone and everyone was in
need of some sleep. (bar me i was awake for a full 37.5hrs). heres what
happened
i got back to my seat and switched on my sisters personal cd player. and
immediatly my ears r in heaven with 'get me away from here im dying' and
almost symbolically at the end of the song, everyone turned out their
lights.
then earlier on tonite, i was sitting eating some bacon on toast. and once i
had finished i looked down at my plate and there was a little drip of grease
in the centre of my plate and some toast crumbs had fallen in it, and they
shape they formed was a perfect ' :) ' that made me smile. but not as much
as this
after being awake for over 37hrs i slept for only 13, not very long
considering. anyway when i finally got out of bed at 2pm i came downstairs
to some post, an a4 sized jiffy bag. and in it was the ltd divine comedy
secret history i had ordered, but as the second cd wasnt ready to send, as
an apology, the book was signed by neil hannon. that made me smile alot. :)
your friend always
me, myself and everybody else
x
icq# 42242252
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From macarthur at xxx.com Sat Oct 16 20:34:40 1999
From: macarthur at xxx.com (Graham MacArthur)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 20:34:40 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Papa t'es plus dans l'coup
Message-ID:
Listerines,
Some NEWS for London hefner fans (unless you're the jumping up and down
jeering beer-boy types - yes, I mean *you*! that was ME scowling at you
from the mosh on Wednesday at dingwalls, you swines)....Monday. Borders
bookshop (Oxford street) 6.30 pm. Myself and miss Hannah, hand in hand. You
could ask for nothing more. And talking of the most glamourous couple this
side of Sunderland, there is a picture of the prettydoll herself, miss
Hannah, *myself* IN FOCUS (for my critic's delight), and our partner in
crime, ms Honeydoll on the 'trying to pull' pics page. They were taken on
my birthday, which is why my eyeliner is a bit smuged. Tequila and kohl
isn't the best combination.
I bought a record today called 'Teenage party' which is all sung in french.
There is a code to which kind of dancing you should do with each song - for
"Quand Un air Vous Possede" you should do the Mashed Potatoe. For "T'as
qu'seize ans" you should do the twist. I'd like it if someone would tell me
how to dance to each song at the next tigermilking - I can just see Mark
MC-ing: "NOW! shuffle nervously with your hands behind your back!"
Right, now if you'll excuse me I have to go and pretend I have something
better to do.
Erica
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From i_love_moon at xxx.com Sun Oct 17 01:31:17 1999
From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (Johan Nilsson)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 02:31:17 +0200
Subject: Sinister: ban hate and violence for our convenience
References: <000401bf1826$7559b360$a927883e@win98>
Message-ID: <19991017001858.77039.qmail@hotmail.com>
four musical acts in my head:
STEREOLAB (them savages should be banned!)
I am really disapointed that Stereolab's tour doesn't reach us kids up in Scandinavia! Oh it happens all the time though. We just learn to cope with it. Is there anyone out there that could help me get an ex of the seven inch "Fried Monkey Eggs" that they are selling on the tour? Oh oh, in case you don't know, Cobra and Phases Japanese version comes with a super cute extra Cd single! Love it, it is the cutest thing since, well I don't know what.
DOT ALLISON (i want to feel the chill?)
I bought 'Afterglow' the other day. I don't know how it came. I guess I just had to. No actually, I was in a record store in Stockholm (Pet Sounds) and they were playing it and I recalled all the good melodies from the gig she did with the Strap in London. It is quite, 'listener friendly' if that is a phrase worth using, and I like it a lot, at least right now.
BELLE & SEBASTIAN (music for children)
Why is the new album taking so long?!?! Ahem, yes that was my message. No, wait. Someone wished they'd re-record 'Rhoda' because it is such a lovely song. I totally agree! Please re-record it Stuart! We should start a foundation and with it our goal would be to get it released...
HEFNER (summertime, summertime, summertime)
What did the girl write on Darrens coat? Summertime by the way was a Fresh Prince song, not a Hefner one... But Darren seemingly like to sing the word summertime a lot, even though when i would say it doesn't fit with the lyrics.
bit of you foot now, chump!
Johan.
'eating too much liqourice since 1979'
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From bfundak at xxx.org Sun Oct 17 01:37:49 1999
From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 20:37:49 -0400 (EWT)
Subject: Sinister: A Kinder World
Message-ID:
I would like to express my appreciation for the many sinister members who
took time to e-mail me about my mom's illness. She had the surgery today
and she will hopefully be much better soon. Unfortunately, she has to
have an even more unpleasant surgery later this week. Anyway, I just
wanted to say thanks to all of you for your kindness. This really is the
greatest list in the world.
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From sloyd at xxx.au Sat Oct 16 13:51:08 1999
From: sloyd at xxx.au (spencer lloyd)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 20:51:08 +0800
Subject: Sinister: I'm 15 all over again
Message-ID: <4.1.19991016200801.00931ae0@mail.omen.net.au>
marie elia asked:
>dear lord! did this really happen???
Yes it did. Very rarely does anything of interest happen in my life so i
think that it is essential that I share it with the world when something does.
Now adding to the Degrassi thread, with a question to all the Canadian listees:
was there ever a soundtrack to the show, or to the Degrassi movie "School's
Out"? I seem to remember one song being use during the movie called 'House
of Glass' which particularly touched me. It was played during the scene
where Caitlin is breaking up with Joey, and when those too tarty gurls are
drowning and being rescued by Snake. Ooh I can almost hear that haunting
melody right now, how did it go? "Come touch me, in a house of glass, I'm
falling." or something like that!
And on a related note i seem to recall a band right here in Perth using
that whole Caitlin/Joey breakup scene on one of their songs.It starts with
sweet innocent Caitlin saying the immortal words "Tessa Campanelli, you
fucked Tessa Campanelli." And then has Caitlin crying and Joey squirming
and saying "I'm sorry. I'm sorry" at the end. Oh boy I'm almost crying just
thinking about that scene!
And speaking of TV shows my fellow Australian Kin Woo espoused the virtues
of Buffy. I just wanted to say thankyou for confirming that I am not a
hopeless teeny-bopper wannabe by simply adoring this show and waiting
impatiently for every Tuesday night to come around.
blessed be all
spencer lloyd
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
stillness is a lie, my dear
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From grey7 at xxx.net Sun Oct 17 04:36:02 1999
From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 23:36:02 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Harry Potter is the antichrist
Message-ID: <00f001bf1850$bcfe5ca0$5e381fce@default>
Okay, I really do have some B&S content, but first:
People want to ban Harry Potter
I caught the NBC national news yesterday and it seems there is a
movement (small, but still...) to ban Harry Potter books in schools and
such. For those not already members of the Dark Brotherhood of Lucifer (joke
kittlings) allow me to explain. Harry Potter books are novels written by a
rather charming seeming scottish women by the name of JK Rowling. Anywho,
Harry is a young boy going to a school of wizards and goes on many fanciful
adventures and so on. The reason for this is...are you ready for it?...these
people say Harry promotes witchcraft, drug use, satanism, and so on. All
three Harry Potter books are on the bestseller list in top spots. Teachers
say kids who have never shown an intrest in reading are picking up Harry
Potter books and loving them. Which reminds me that as late as the 1980's
the banned-books list still existed in the US, this was a list of books that
served as a guide for what was appropriate reading material and including
such things as Wizard of OZ, NArnia, Lord of the Rings, Tom Sawyer, Catcher
in the Rye (which me Dad proudly proclaims got him in trouble and almost
caused him to be expelled for reading it in his sixth grade class), James
and the Giant Peach, etc. Sorry, just had to share that, just had to vent a
little at the stupidity and small mindedness of people. Let's move on...
Belle & Sebastian
I have already sung the praise of my college radio station and now I
must again. While driving yesterday I was joyed to hear TBWTAS start playing
only to become dismayed when it faded out to be replaced by a news program.
Then I realized the radio station was using TBWTAS as intro and background
music for their news program. Which seems an odd choice for the news and
opinion segment but I'm not complaining...
Someone at that school must really like B&S, which is fine by me.
Jason Andreas wrote:
>It might not mean riches
>and fame, but at least, for the first time in my life, it's made me feel
>that maybe I *can* be a writer after all!
Christ man!! Congrats are in order!!! I've just started sending stuff
off and am awaiting my rejection letters with glee...but to get published at
all? Damn fine job sir! It must be a brilliant feeling.
Cher must die
The funniest thing about Cher...I'm in the mall last week in Sam Gooody
looking around when I overhear a trio of A&F girls of about fourteen
talking; "You know, Cher's cool and all...but she's like fourty! Isn't that
a little old to be starting your musical career?" I about hit the floor
laughing as a clerk who had heard what was said tried explaining that she'd
been in music for about three or four decades. Poor Hannah, don't worry, I'm
sure Cher has been the bane of many a good spirit.
I always feel as I've written too much, never sure how much to impart in
these non-sensical little ramblings to my sinister brothers and sisters,
always feeling my I've rambled on too much. So I'll bid your leave now. Have
a sinister night- Jim
"And I'm up when the dawn is breaking , even though my heart is aching. I
should be drinking a toast to absent friends, instead of these comedians"-
Elvis Costello
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From daftpunk at xxx.au Sun Oct 17 07:18:56 1999
From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:18:56 +0800 (WST)
Subject: Sinister: I'm up for "Best of" lists, plus GARBAGE and MARY JO (B&S content)
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Sounds like a GREAT IDEA. I for one am always up for it. Others can start
first but rest assured my "albums of the decade" will include B&S, Belly
and lots more!:)
On Sat, 16 Oct 1999, Mark Niciu wrote:
> It's me again. Insomnia is ravaging at this wee hour of the morning. As
> there appears to be no new Belle and Sebastian news to report and the end of
> the decade is rapidly approaching (the first that I've lived through
> cognizant of music minus any Disney tracks), is anyone up for "best of"
> lists, e.g. "Top 25 Albums of the Decade", "Top 50 Songs of the Decade",
> "Top 10 Guitarists", "Songwriters", etc.? If anyone is interested in rating
> the best (or worst), I'm game as this should provide plenty of grist for our
> sinister mill until the release of Belle and Sebastian's new LP. Give me a
> few days to think and I'll start off the fun with a "Top 25 Albums of the
> Decade" list.
Also does anyone know what the deal with the "Mary Jo" single is? I have
an old Select (this year) which contains an advert for "Mary jo" by B&S
but nowhere else is there a mention of this. HELP!!!:)
As one could discern from my title, this email is to recount in loving and
unneccessary detail about my going to see one of my fave bands, GARBAGE
here in Perth, W.A.:)
Went to see Garbage (wierdly supporting the queen of YUCK that is
Alanis Morrissette) on Tuesday, which was terrific. $70 for an hour
performance (couldn't bear to stay for Alanis) is of course extremely
ridiculous, but it was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and pretty worth
it I thought.
Support band Stellar sounded a lot like a rock Sneakerpimps and were
pretty non descript.
But when Shirley came on, it was so absolutely AMAZING! She seemed
slightly shorter than I'd imagined her to be but she just commandeered the
whole place with her magnetic presence. She was funny, hypnotic and great
to watch.
They played all their classics though I could have done without "Hammering
in my head" and "dumb" for "queer" and "not my idea" instead. The sound
was a perfect pitch between their dark, sinister, menacing side with their
rocking and poppy side. Loved how before "vow" they had a sample that
said, "don't you know all bad girls go to hell". Shirls even incorporated
Britney Spears "Hit Me Baby One More Time" into one of her songs! Brought
a tape recorder but unfortunately batteries didn't work- CRAP!!!:( Would
have been such a magnificent bootleg to have.
Nearly on par with Radiohead for my fave gig ever I guess, but the fact
that Radiohead was vastly cheaper and they played for longer tip it over
in favour of the 'Head.
Afterwards, went to the side door to see if we could get a siggie
(signature) from the band. This is where the biggest letdown of the night
occurred. There were only a small bunch of us, very orderly too awaiting
the majesty of Garb's, but when they finally came out, only Shirley waved
to the fans (others ignored us!) and there was this big burly guard that
prevented us from going closer to them for an autograph. Swindled! I
thought Shirls etc would be happy to sign just a handful of autographs
since that's the impression I get from all their interviews. Instead, they
just piled into a van and waved as they drove off- BOO!!! Was hoping to
add to my collection of famous Scots autographs along with Ewan McGregor
and Teenie Fanclub!
Still had an awesome night and nothing can take away from my pleasure of
my memory of that:) (wierd sentence but nevermind!)
ok that's all folks:) Gotta run, hope to hear from some of you re: "Mary
Jo" conundrum and of course to see some "best of" lists
seeya
Kin Woo
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From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sun Oct 17 09:56:14 1999
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 09:56:14 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Looper at Virgin
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This was really good fun, and a great set too. I love Y2K, I wish I had
taken a tape recorder (or even had one to take )
On the way to the gig, I was walking along with Heather McDonald and I was
singing TIJAMRS, I got to the line 'Stuart's staying in...' and Stuart
Murdoch nearly ran into me. Heather spent the next five mins saying 'Oh my
GOD!' very loudly and shockedly :)
Chris Geddes was apparently floating around too, I think I spotted him and
Isobel talking outside the gig, but I'm not positive.
Stuart David was really cool, and told me not to go to Cash Converters as
they'll rip me off. I really wish I could afford not to, but half my CD
collection is now being sold to finance my life until my next student loan
installment (or until I find a job).
Wish me luck folks,
-- Jason Andreas
-- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people
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From macarthur at xxx.com Sun Oct 17 12:00:37 1999
From: macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 12:00:37 +0100
Subject: Sinister: pardon.
Message-ID:
I think my mail went on a bit of a bender last night. I sent it out at 7.30
pm and it didn't come back until 01.08, which is tres bizzare. Anyway, by
this hour I'd spoken to the wee H herself and found out we're not attending
Hefner because of CHER. as she's said. Porn is woman hatred, you know...
Erica
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From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk Sun Oct 17 12:29:57 1999
From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (sweetie)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 12:29:57 +0100
Subject: Sinister: best of lists
Message-ID: <000201bf1899$a8b106a0$3c1f883e@anne666theasylum>
well b4 i joined sinister i read the horror stories of best of lists.
but im sure that perhaps if we all behaved like good ickle boys and girls
and maybe all agreed that list mummy was to decide what our best of lists
were to be then it might just work out. maybe. that could maybe save the
extreme stupidity of some best of lists.
but what do i know.
actually now i think about it, i dont like the idea. i like sinister the way
it is. :)
your cluless friend always
me myself and everyone else
sweetie :)
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From durkw at xxx.com Sun Oct 17 14:04:41 1999
From: durkw at xxx.com (Derek Wuenschirs)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:04:41 +0100
Subject: Sinister: everybody wants something..
References: <199910162210.QAA24407@turtle.esosoft.net>
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> Subject: Sinister: they'll take your money and never give up
Nothing makes me feel closer to home than a bit of
good 'ol Zit Remedy. I went to the school where the
degrassi episodes for shot, and I often found myself
walking down the ramp, playing Joey to my imaginary
Caitlyn. Sweet Canadian melodrama.
As -if- I saw "Wheel's" from Degrassi outside Toronto's
Horseshoe tavern the night of the Mogwai show...
looper + free virgin megastore gig = bitchin'
á bientot,
derek
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From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sun Oct 17 14:55:36 1999
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:55:36 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Mogwai Meetup?
Message-ID: <003101bf18a7$4ad5e4c0$e9173c3e@default>
Anyone who's going on the 23rd of October to the Barrowlands, Glasgow, let
me know and we'll all get together beforehand :)
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From igh1 at xxx.uk Sun Oct 17 15:13:37 1999
From: igh1 at xxx.uk (igh1)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 15:13:37 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: TIIIIIIGGGGGEEEEEERRRRMMMMMIIILLLKKK!!!!!
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Hello one and all . . .
Ah, what a great weekend. First of all let me say thank
you to all those kind and lovely souls who wrote back to me
about the price of Tigermilk - there were just too many of
you for me to reply individually, so sorry, but here's a
big fat THANKS. I don't want to gloat (well, not too much
anyway - my housemates are sick of me screaming
TIIIIGGGEEEERRMMMIIIILLLLKKKKK!!!! at the top of my voice,
so I'll only do it once here, I promise (although I s'pose
that could count as twice, but nevermind :-))). Anyways,
on Saturday I managed to buy the most unbelivably mint
condition copy of Tigermilk I've ever seen (although it is
the only one I've seen) (oh dear, I must have caught
bracketitis off a fellow Sinisterine :-)).
Kin Woo scribbled:
> Also does anyone know what the deal with the "Mary Jo"
> single is? I have an old Select (this year) which
> contains an advert for "Mary jo" by B&S
> but nowhere else is there a mention of this. HELP!!!:)
Indeed, I have the copy of Select about which
you're talking (the one with Blur and the Tigermilk review,
I think) pondered this myself on many occasions, and have
now come to the conclusion that it was in fact an advert
for the whole album . . . unless someone who actually knows
one way or the other would like to set the record
straight???!!!
Non B&S bit:
Erica complained:
> unless you're the jumping up and down
> jeering beer-boy types - yes, I mean *you*! that was ME
> scowling at you from the mosh on Wednesday at dingwalls,
> you swines)
Ah, how much I hate those
jumpy-up-and-down-moshpit-y-people. Last night this really
crap band played our uni, and a load of physic geeks (no
offence anyone out there who does physics, but, hey, if you
saw this lot, you'd call 'em geeks too :-)) jumped up and
down, making the whole night worse cos they trod on my
feet and spilt my beer all over me . . . At least I got to
laugh heartily as the jumped up and down completely out of
time, but that's not the point. Now, I used to think this
was an affliction only bands such as the Stereophonics
suffered, so imagine my shock when I saw the Happy Mondays
at T In The Park (expecting friendly Scottish crowds - got
a bunch of rude arseholes, in general, although some
B&S/Smiths songs were played on the speakers in between
bands, and Ooberman were fantastic, but anyway . . .) when
people moshed to . . . the Happy Mondays. Oh yes. They
then proceeded to throw their sweaty arms around me and ask
why I wasn't joining in!!! Eventually, I managed to move
to the side and DANCE, but RAAAA. How can anyone mosh to
the Happy Mondays. Earlier on in the day, some freaky
Placebo/Manics fan (two of my most hated groups in the
whole world) had covered his face and hair in sun cream,
resulting in making himself look like a right TWAT. He
then moshed with about four of his mates to Muse (who were
pretty disappointing on the whole), crushing this poor wee
lass into the mud, and just laughing. Some kids then threw
a liquid over them and started chuckling when the moshing
twats acted like they thought everyone reckoned they were
heroes . . . until they smelt what had been thrown over
them. Usually I am anti-throwing-of-piss, but on this one
occasion I was stricken with mirth :-)
Ok, I'd better go now, so byeeeeeee,
Ian.
***********************
Ian Hatcher
igh1 at ukc.ac.uk
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From chris.jones at xxx.uk Sun Oct 17 18:17:23 1999
From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:17:23 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Angry adverts
Message-ID: <199910171807.TAA23126@smtp.saqnet.co.uk>
Thanks and sorry,
I had soooooooooooooo many responses about 'that' Bowie song that I should
have known. Most people were really nice, but one or two mailed me in a
"you stupid idiot, you should have known that" stylee. My excuse is that I
wasn't actually born when that
record came out and I'm not a Bowie fan. I hope this is reasonable. Sorry
and thanks.
Chris Jones.
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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Oct 17 19:08:50 1999
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:08:50 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Meet before Looper Oxford Street In-Store?
Message-ID: <199910171409_MC2-894C-13B0@compuserve.com>
Hi Sinistereens,
Couldn't see anything on the Beepstah board, but does anyone have plans to
meet anywhere before the book-signing/gig tomorrow evening? If so, where &
when?
Honey, this is abuse & I therefore deserve punishment. I'll report to your
desk at the Library with the cat'o'nine tails, & the cactus, as usual.
Regards,
David (& Pam, & Sally) Moore
Chelmsford, UK
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From pookie59 at xxx.com Sun Oct 17 20:52:51 1999
From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 12:52:51 PDT
Subject: Sinister: passing on
Message-ID: <19991017195251.80233.qmail@hotmail.com>
Incoming from that dear EA...
love,
genevieve (wondering why shes never got to do any of that stuff while SHE
was in quebec!)Tis the farm life for me,I'm afraid.
>Well...last week, I got a message saying that I had a voice on this here
>hotmail account, but I guess I don't...so Pookie will pass this on to
>you....
>
>>I thought I'd let you all in on my new life here in Montreal>>>
>
>HAUNTED
>>I thought I'd left Toronto behind...but in the room in which I'm staying,
>>there's a tacky drugstore painting of the waterfront...CN Tower and
>>all...on one of the walls in my room...*sigh*>> WORK
>>Work is marvelous. It's 85% boys...and I say boys because it's a video
>>game company. There's one lovely gal called Stella on my web team...just
>>we too girls among a gang of thugs...most of whom happen to be um, very
>>attractive.>
>
>>DRINKING
>>Happy Hour is outlawed in Ontario but it's alive and well here in Quebec.
>>The 'list' as it's known (yay! I'm with the cool people *blah*) headed
>>over to this *mmm mmm* pub called 'Le dieu du ciel' or 'The god of the
>>sky.' This place brews its own beer...I had 'deese nocturne' or 'night
>>goddess' - a dark beer much like Boddington's but without the head (a
>>night goddess that doesn't give head...what good is that?) ANYWAY...what
>>took place over the next oh, 7 hours could only be described as pure
>>mayhem...I imagine that many Sinister events turn out like this...lots of
>>tit grabbing, stumbling,
>>dopey guys dancing the jig, kissing, and one guy (who's one half of a
>>mighty cool couple) had his winky attacked by his drunken friends....wow!
>>that's all I can say...my party days are here again!
>
>APARTMENT
>>I've found a cushy place in a condo complex on the Plateau - the coolest
>>place ever. There's a new alternative movie centre nearby and the Museum
>>of Comedy is right next door. It's but 15 minutes from work and there's
>>an indoor pool and laundry facilities (after living in dumps for the past
>>3 years...) In the dead of winter (which IS deadly here) I will be able
>>to stay inside and still find lots to do. It helps that my friend Ron's
>>ex-bf lives in the same building...perhaps the odd snowstorm will permit
>>me a
>dinner or two with this gorgeous specimen.>>
>
>B&S
>>I miss you all sooo much. A BIG "HELLO!" to my regular email friends and
>>the IRC people. I'm sure lots of people in Montreal like B&S...people
>>here are very individualistic, open-minded, and happy to discuss ideas,
>>get goofy...reminds me of my university days. It's so socially liberal!
>>Sex cabarets next to condom shops next to cannabis boutiques next to gay
>>bookshops...hahahaha Oh, I heard Looper on Radio Sonic last night...don't
>>think I like SD's stuff...lacks the texture of B&S. (Picked up 'Terror
>>Twilight' by Pavement yesterday...c'est tres tres bon...'Spit on a
>>Stranger'esp.)>
>
>
>>...off to see 'Fight Club' tonight with my old friend V. I admire Edward
>>Norton immensely...it's not a sexual thing at all...he seems just so
>>fiercely intelligent and he's just my type of guy :)>>
>
>bye luvs!
>xo
>ea
>
>oh...and Degrassi Jr. High started the year I entered Jr. High. It really
>helped me! I got to see that the lives of these kids were messier than
>mine. A student at York U in Toronto has a Degrassi-spotting web
>site...don't know the URL..She'll post your sightings and tales of vice.
>>__________________
>
>____________________________________
>
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From lleweth at xxx.com Sun Oct 17 23:20:12 1999
From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 15:20:12 PDT
Subject: Sinister: like telling e. e. cummings to use caps. Would he listen? No. Little n. Little o
Message-ID: <19991017222014.70192.qmail@hotmail.com>
The worst thing happened to me. Ok, so it wasn't THE worst since neither
fire, rabbits, midgets, or leather was involved. But it wasn't the best
thing either. Something terribly embarrassing happened to me yesterday in
which 3 people witnessed. I was hoping that it would all be forgotten and no
one would mention again. Well, of course it wasn't. Now, it was most
humiliating so I won't go into details but just know that I"m not too easily
embarrassed. Most likely because I'm so used to it - but this is horrid.
Anyway, the 2 guys who saw it will not let up. Today, I saw one and quickly
tried to leave the area before he saw me. Unfortunately, I was too late and
he latched on my arm retelling all of the events in a loud manner so
everyone could here. I walked quicker, mumbled 'that's nice - glad i could
entertain. thanks. go away.' but he kept at it. I finally ditched him, sat
down, and buried my face in my hands. That's when my mother came up to me
laughing saying how the other guy had just told her the FUNNIEST thing about
me. He said they had laughed at me for almost 2 hours and of course they're
spreading the tale. ACK! I spent the next hour plotting my demise. There
were no sharpened pencils or anything else with a point around so I was
getting creative. Anyway, does anyone have any stories about embarrassing
things that happened to them, where they thought they were going to die but
it turned out ok? Please share them with me - I need hope and a good
chuckle.
As you can gather, I completely approve, condone, and partake in talking
about one's personal life to the list - especially if you need some place to
vent and be comforted. What else are we here for? I mean I heard this nasty
little rumor once that it was to talk about b&s but isn't that what we end
up listening to when these things happen to us? We're a community - perhaps
a family (although a strange one with a mother named Honey with over a
thousand illegitimate kiddies). We each have our own talents, gifts to the
list, problems, and so forth. In college, I assigned each of my roommates &
myself (6 total) a role like those of the abusive family - the abuser, the
lost child, the hero, the scapegoat, etc. I got labelled the scapegoat since
as one of my roommates said, "If there is something in the apartment broken,
Laura did it." (She was a sweetie. She also told one guy, who was a friend
of her boyfriend, who said he would like to go out with me even though he
had just met me, "Guys like you don't date girls like Laura." I never had
the courage to ask her what she meant). So, if any of you need a scapegoat
feel free to blame me for your problems. I'll take complete responsibility
for you failing that test, forgetting your mom's birthday, robbing the 7-11,
napalming innocent children in Asia, or wearing white after Labor Day.
Personally, I plan to inform the list if any of the following things happen
to me:
1. I marry and change my last name. After all, it would effect how I sign my
posts.
2. Become a superhero. Unless, I have to keep my identity a secret. Well I
guess most superheros do - so scratch this one.
3. Have any illicit affairs with the president or any state officials.
(However, I retain the right to cry to Barbara Walters and pose for
magazines before sharing any details with the list.)
4. Publish all of my e-mails in book form. I'm thinking deluxe,
leather-bound, limited edition. Maybe an audiotaped version where you get a
famous actor to read it, like Michelle Pfeiffer, Sandra Bullock, or maybe
even Isobel or Wynonna Ryder or Jewel or Rich Little doing an impression of
Tattoo from Fantasy Island....
However, I absolutely refuse to tell the post if I die. Sorry, it just ain't
going to happen.....
Random Thought: Does anyone else completely love autumn? Mmmm there is
nothing about it that I do not like. The trees changing color, the briskness
of the air, the smells, the pies, the apple cider, Halloween approaching....
MMM, how could this not be your favorite season? Sorry, I just finished
making a pumpkin pie from scratch and am revelling in the season. Its the
first time I've attempted such a task and besides the fact that it looks
like Charlie Brown's Great Pumpkin Patch has been relocated to our kitchen -
it turned out well.
Ok back on task....
Sincereness personified in the form of Dan Hooper said,
>"She even told me that I was 'too perfect'."
Well, there's the problem - too much perfection. I've been accused of such
things myself. ha ha ha. To me the whole knowing someone through letters
before you actually know them has been romanticized through movies (Shop
Around the Corner, You Got Mail) and songs (Impossible Things #2). Stories
which make me sigh and get that warm fuzzy feeling like I've just drunk
spoiled milk (did that one for you, dan � hehe) but never seem to apply to
me. There are some people who I adore receiving e-mails from. They never
fail to leave my face with a smile, my heart with a chuckle, and my spirit
edified. I also think that a part of us is revealed in letters that
otherwise others would be ignorant about. As John Donne said, "More than
kisses, letters mingle souls."
Well, I would like to thank you all again for all the wonderous posts that
you write. They're so intriguing, alluring, _enigmatic_ if
you will. Only once in my life have I responded to a list the way I've
responded to this one, but I've forgotten when it was or even if it was in
fact me that responded. I may not know much, but I know that the wind sings
belle and sebastian's name endlessly, although with a slight lisp that makes
it difficult to understand if I'm standing near an air conditioner...
humiliatingly yours,
Laura
'meeting all of your Laura Llew needs since 1977'
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From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 05:24:16 1999
From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 00:24:16 EDT
Subject: Sinister: list nonsense
Message-ID: <0.673b655c.253bfaf0@aol.com>
hello all..
I don't mean to rain on anyone's little parade, but I really would hate to
see a Top 10 List get started here. I'm not kidding. I nearly ground my teeth
to powder when the Smiths get brought up here; Top 10 is much worse. If
anyone has a burning desire to find out what music a person likes, email them
personally and ask.
Sorry to fuss, but the traffic has been really high, and my mailbox has been
clogged with posts. I'd prefer to not go to digest format, cos i know i would
just get tired of looking through one big email and unsubscribe. And I like
reading some of the letters here.
Has anyone actually read Nalda Said yet? If so, please email me personally
and let me know how it is. I'm most curious
toadstools
dave
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From GoGoEcho at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 06:25:09 1999
From: GoGoEcho at xxx.com (GoGoEcho at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 01:25:09 EDT
Subject: Sinister: WELL thanks and I've been busy
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I'd like to say thanks to all of you who sent me some names of french
singers. I'm sorry it took so long for me to thank you but I've been busy.
I started school, I'm a photo major and work at school; so I've been quite
busy. This is my first chance to do anything that's not school related. I've
spent everyday at school or out shooting. School is just so overywhelming
all my classes have so much work it sucks. Well I'm done complaining
Later,
adam
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From chamomile1 at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 07:41:22 1999
From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:41:22 PDT
Subject: Sinister: my ex-girlfriend on drugs, shagging and love
Message-ID: <19991018064123.28250.qmail@hotmail.com>
Horror. Absolute horror. I'm supposed to interview the Wannadies tomorrow.
They've got a new album that just came out and they are doing some promoting
here. Well, I called their recordcompany and booked a meeting. 20 minutes
with the coolest goy in pop, Per (the singer with the moppy hair). How will
I survive? I don't know. My first interview with a person who really is a
Star. I'm going to stutter and make a jackass of myself, I know it. Btw,
strange how easy it was for me to get their new cd. I just phoned this nice
women who runs their business here.
"Hi, this is Jarkko from Sue- magazine. the 'Dies are doing some promoting
here, am I right? Could you book me some time with them?"
"Yeah they are. I've never heard of the mag you work for, but where do you
want me to send their promo-cd?"
Geez. I mean, anyone could call them up and lie and get a free cd from
there. No-one has just never thought of that. The great part of this is that
I never got the cd for some reason, so she is sending some guy to bring it
to me today. To my FLAT, for gods sake. Made me feel rather important.
Well, onto some other stuff now. Met my ex-girlfriend on saturday. I bought
some beer and she bought herself a bottle of red wine. Drinking, listening
to Hefner (she fell in love with them. Mainly because of "A hymn for the
alcohol") and talking. Great. Except she talked about her adventures in the
chemical world again, which wasn't THAT nice. She smoked some heroin about a
month ago. Erm... not my cup of tea, honey. Other things she told me about:
1)
The person who she had a sexaffair for two months still keeps calling her.
This is the same guy she lost her "backdoorvirginity" to (and no, I didn't
want to hear that either).
2)
she did a whole bunch of drugs while interrailing. These included heroin
(again), LSD, hash and some speed. But she did not inject anything to her
body, just smoked them, so it didn't matter (yes, she said that, not me).
3)
She is seeing someone now, but she doesn't love him. Just likes to keep a
regular shag.
4)
I look cool (which made me feel mighty pleasent).
So as you can see, on the other hand I had fun with her but on the other
hand it was hell for me.
What else? Oh, Ani DiFranco is coming here in about a month. Hope to god she
doesn't play her song "Pulse". It's not nice to see a grown man cry.
And now... a cigarette.
@--->--- Jake le petit
"You must be tired, you've been running around in my mind the whole day."
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From tigermilk1 at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 23:34:31 1999
From: tigermilk1 at xxx.com (Elizabeth Arnott)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:34:31 EST
Subject: Sinister: sooty... or was it sweep...
Message-ID: <19991018073437.3159.qmail@hotmail.com>
Does anyone think that the part of the song in "Mayfly" just after he sings
"but you would love him anyway" sounds like Sweep (you know that dog puppet
from the sooty and sweep show or whatever it was called). Because of this
similarity i can no longer take the song seriously, not that Belle and
Sebastian should be taken seriously anyway! Thaken seriously as a spoon
full of sugar...
Well that is all perhaps i should retreat to my game of freecell and dream
about kissing boys with black rimmed glasses...
Do boys tell the secrets, that their girlfriends told them after they break
up? Just being paranoid....
Flying liz Attack!
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From markniciu at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 08:38:30 1999
From: markniciu at xxx.com (Mark Niciu)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 00:38:30 PDT
Subject: Sinister: Attention: Those Interested in Composing "Best of..." Lists
Message-ID: <19991018073831.77831.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey y'all,
At the behest of list mummy Honey, I've decided to take my "Top..." list
requests to personal e-mail correspondence. This should prevent clogging
the list with arguments that proceed as such: "Blur's "13" is shite.
Mogwai's "Come On Die Young" is much better because they have shirts to
prove it!"
The first list for you constructing pleasure is "The Top 15 Albums of 1999".
Therefore, please mail a "Top 20 (N.B. 20, not 15) Albums of 1999" list
(in numerical order, of course, with "1" being the best album of the year
and "20" being the twentieth best album) to markniciu at hotmail.com before the
1 November (this deadline is flexible and may be extended depending upon the
quantity of contributions). I will tabulate the results by assigning a
score as follows: #1 receives 20 points, #2 chalks up 19 points, #3 marks 18
points, etc. The final results will be posted to this list; I will also
construct a web page with the results of our lists reified for all eternity
to the adulating or excoriating eyes of all Sinisterines, unbelievers, Steps
fans, etc.
A few words of interest regarding this list, and, more specifically, what
the title "Best Album of 1999" precludes from consideration. First, only
LPs may tabulate votes; thus, any votes for Godspeed You Black Emperor!'s
"Slow Riot for New Zero Kanada", no matter how fucking top this masterpiece
is, will be for naught, as it is an EP. Second, the album must have been
released in its country of origin in the year 1999 C.E. (or A.D., depending
upon one's devotion to a wandering, itinerant Jew who strode the earth
approximately two thousand years ago). Therefore, any votes for Manic
Street Preachers "This is My Truth..." from U.S. fans will also be for
naught as the Welsh trio ("Richey, Richey, where are you?") released this
album in the British Isles in 1998 albeit it was released in the U.S. this
year. As I probably will not be familiar with every item voted for in this
list, can you please do some homework and ascertain that you are voting for
an album released this year in its country of origin(or surrounding
countries, as the case may be) in 1999? I simply don't have the time or the
patience to check every single record.
If this list is a success, viz., more than 50 respondents, the next list
will be a "Top X Reissues, EPs, Singles, etc., of 1999". I promise that
you'll have the opportunity to vote for "Tigermilk" in this list!
Peace,
Mark
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From jasonandreas at xxx.net Mon Oct 18 09:27:52 1999
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:27:52 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Snap, Crackle, Splat!
Message-ID: <011a01bf1942$ff5d3e20$19d7b0c2@default>
Hello twee majority :)
Well, the holidays are almost over, and it's college again for me tomorrow
:(
Still, it's been nice, and I actually managed to do something nice for once,
so it wasn't all bad.
I did get beaten up again last night though :(
Neds, again. They seem to be waging some sort of war against me because I
don't fight back. Maybe I should start. Any Mr/Mrs Miyagi figures here ready
to teach me how to defend myself again a bunch of drunken hooligans? Thought
not, oh well, here's to black eye number 56378! :)
As my money has finally ran out completely, I'm going to have to apply for a
'Hardship loan' through the college. Has anyone done this before and can
tell me anything about it?
I seem to be unable to meet any new Scots in Scotland. I know that this
sounds a little odd, but of all the people I spoke to at the Looper gig, 2
were American, 2 Greek, 2 English, 1 from Norway, 1 from Spain and one who
couldn't speak English, so I dunno where he was from :) Not that I mind,
it's nice to open yourself to new ideals and so forth.
***Laura LLew wished to hear embarassing experiences:***
Hmm. I don't know what you'll all think of me after hearing this one, but
here goes....
I was at a party, I was only invited so that I would bring my friend (whom
the girl in question had the hots for). Well, the music started playing and
we were all dancing, and during a wee conga, you know, step step KICK, step
step KICK, I managed to kick over the stereo. Bye bye music. Hello
embarassment as I tried to pick it up and put the music back on I managed to
collide with the girls brother, who was about four foot tall, and he went
flying in the opposite direction, only to land *head first* in his sister's
crotch.
Needless to say, I ran away and never looked back :)
I now pass the newly born *embarassment puppy* to Jarkko Frantila, as he
seems a nice chap :)
What's everyone doing at Halloween? Is anyone dressing up and going out? I
want to be a 'Blinking Bear' from the Radiohead website, but I have
absolutely no idea how to go about it
:(
Failing that, I'll be a dog on wheels (which seems relatively simple to achieve )
Anyway, I have spoken too much already, and now I must go.
cheerio!
-- Jason Andreas
-- Hailing from Glasgow, city of half a million souls and one million people
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From Andrew_2_Lloyd at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 09:46:59 1999
From: Andrew_2_Lloyd at xxx.com (Andrew_2_Lloyd at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:46:59 +0100
Subject: Sinister: The sweetness lies within
Message-ID: <8025680E.00304DB2.00@uksmtp01.ha.uk.sbphrd.com>
Reading University, Saturday Night, 8.30, the coffee lounge - DJ played above
tune by Hefner. It made a huge welcomness change from the techno in there last
year. Any of youse luverly peoples whose are gonna be at Da Doo Ron Rons on
Wednesday night I hope to gladly see youse there. I'll be the guy with the
seventies wallpaper style black and white diamond t-shirt and bleachy blond
(yellowish) hair.
Love Marine Research, but they'll never replace Talula Gosh
Nothings as sweet as a smile
Andi
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From rebeckas at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 10:58:46 1999
From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 02:58:46 PDT
Subject: Sinister: beans guest dj'ing
Message-ID: <19991018095847.67108.qmail@hotmail.com>
Happy Birthday to doo, happy Birthday to doo, happy Birthday dear Da Doo Ron
Ron, happy Birthday to you!�
�
Yes indeedy,� Steve Lamacq's Radio 1 Evening Session are the latest to big
up the fantabulous 1st Birthday knees-up of 60's girl group and femme soul
club DA DOO RON RON this Wed 20 OCTOBER @ Po Na Na, 259, Upper St, Highbury
Corner, London. N1 (Tel:-0171-359-6191) Guest DJ's include Beans Geddes,
kitten on the keyboards for Scots Brit-scooping pastoral popsters BELLE &
SEBASTIAN and B & S Tour DJ Andrew Symington.� So, come and join the gang
that dig Doo Lang and celebrate original 6T's girl power.
WED 20th OCTOBER
�
@ Po Na Na, 259, Upper St, Highbury Corner, London. N1 (Tel:-0171-359-6191)
�
Door open @ 9.00pm.� Admission is �3 w/flyer �5 w/o
Regular DJ's Chris King & Declan Allen plus special guest BEAN GEDDES from
BELLE & SEBASTIAN spin fab 45's from the femme-centric likes of The
Ronettes, Shangri-La's, Martha & Vandellas, Velvelettes, Chiffons, Dusty,
Aretha, Petula, Flirtations, Maxine Brown, Candy & The Kisses, Supremes,
Lesley Gore, Little eva, The Cookies, The Crystals, Darlene Love, The
Angels, Tammi Terrell, The Shirelles et al
For further info please mail DDRR promoter & organiser Chris King direct:
c.king at easynet.co.uk
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From macarthur at xxx.com Mon Oct 18 12:19:23 1999
From: macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:19:23 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Cher stole my fun
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Kids,
I went to Ware this weekend instead of starting a new job in Barney's
Grill, a choice which I have decided was well made after sitting in one of
Ware's own greasy spoons. I went in and sat down as always - they sually
look at me in a strange way, but this time they decided to just deny
my existance. Which was nice. I walked out in a bit of a huff, and Hannah
suggested we go to the new posh cafe down the road. "You know, the nice
silvery one with the glass tables", she said. Only it turns out she'd
actually dreamt up this lovely new cafe. She does stuff like that, bless
her.
>to wonderful Erica's devoted tape making and covers which just made me
wonderful meaning a crap quality tape with no inlay, perhaps? I was
organised with my tapes for a little while. I decided my underwear drawer
was to become my tape draw (doesn't everyone have pants strewn across their
bedroom floor anyway?) and ordered them up. All the belle and sebastian
live recordings together, like a proper nerd. I'd probably be quite a good
nerd, I do nerd-ish things all the time, like spill drinks down myself. Oh
and not forgetting my foolish attempts at "dancing".
someone said:
>HEFNER (summertime, summertime, summertime)
>What did the girl write on Darrens coat?
She wrote "GET YOUR HAIR CUT YOU MESSY BRUTE". Or was it brutish mess?
Kin Woo said:
>Ah, how much I hate those
>jumpy-up-and-down-moshpit-y-people
I believe in moshing, I really do. Just in it's place, and that place not
being anywhere near me and my little toes. The last time I was in a proper
mosh a boy was being bumped up and down above the crowd, when Joy of Joys!
his wallet n a chain fell out of his pocket and someone gallantly ripped it
off (tearing his baggy shorts at the same time) and scampered off gleefully
in the direction of the beer tent. Brilliant! It would have been one of my
favorite moments, had I not been stuck watching the Prodigy in a muddy
field in Chelmsford.
Anyways, must dash, theres a muffin at the bakers with my name on it and we
only get an hour for lunch. Call me! Oh, and I should be getting my kitten
heels out (for the lads) at Da Doo Ron Ron this wednesday - maybe I'll
"boff" Chris Geddes! Or maybe not. Is big brother watching? If so, play
Darlene Love's 'wait till my bobby get's home'. Or else.
Erica
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From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Mon Oct 18 12:54:55 1999
From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:54:55 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Tall and surprisingly buff
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Oi!
Someone mentioned Harry Hill impersonating Morrissey on
Stars In Their Eyes. I wish I'd seen this cos I think Harry Hill is ace,
and the thought of those lapels with a Morrisey like quiff is rather
exciting. I was reading something yesterday about how his best
mate is Al Murray the Pub Landlord and how they once went on a
tour of Britain's fish and chip shops, giving marks to their fish
suppers. I like the sound of that.
Robin x
PS If anyone is going to see Looper in Nottingham on Thursday,
and wants to go for a drink or anything, could you get in touch?
PPS Brandt, don't worry about feeling self-centred. There's
nothing self-centred about worrying about other people.
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From bfundak at xxx.org Mon Oct 18 14:14:37 1999
From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:14:37 -0400 (EWT)
Subject: Sinister: Book banning/Degrassi Jr. High/etc.
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