From dontlookatmyaddressnaughty at xxx.com Sat Apr 1 00:39:12 2000 From: dontlookatmyaddressnaughty at xxx.com (Elvis ...) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 00:39:12 ICT Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #102 Message-ID: <20000331173912.40654.qmail@hotmail.com> hi. se cond post fear maybe. now ive got to fear that my secret life as a serial killer will be err. soemthinged. i'll give you a quick run down of soemthing. i had/havent got many trousers. so i cut into the bottoms to fold out the flappy bits. this makes quite a mess with bits of dead string and such. maybe it will be in the news. in the local paper. ''boy with no trousers on beats his trousers up on the patio''. i would like to think the quality of that could-be headline is equal to or greater in journalistic skills of the worksop guardian. i cant be bothered to see if that makes sense or not. so then i ironed the bottom bits. and continued to beat them. the white pair had a stain on he bottom where i killed the bin man i mean fell of my bike into a goats carcass. i mean err err err. so anyway. i wonder if i started making outrageous and horrible comments now anyone would notice. if i put ELVIS ELVIS ELVIS in big letters, maybe i will acquire a shed load of german tourist fans in a bus or coach? the my-writy-stuff readers amongst you, i.e two, will be pleased to know the elvis related-ness of them has gone a bit. maybe. although quite obviously, he still is in our hearts and minds, we keep him alive through carefull use of poetry story writing formaldahyde [r.e spelling. go away] . [no dont infact. i . anyway.] . hes alive anyway 1 year today since my scruffy handwriting adorned the bathroom wall with the profound text that was ''31-3-99'' i dont quite grasp the ''FREE DRUGS'' mirror-esque (?) campaign that famous club type magazine is doing. anyway, ironing. so i got the ironing board out. and isnt ironing just like gliding in several ways? like its gliding as it goes over said trouser. but i think the pleasure it gives a person must be on a par to flying one of those like sky type wings and stuff but no engine? things. i couldnt work out how to use the ironing board when putting it away. and it slammed 1 cm (i measured it honest) from my finger. the thought was very painfull. it reminds me in some obscure way of the time the romanian or soemwhere man came to ask the way to retford. i suppose it was the same hallway thing. tenuous. however thats spelt,. oh . i had a dream too. about the words twee grate hard kid sad jumper and multi-coloured all appearing in a paragraph cut-out of about 2cm by 4 cm. i think it was related to me cutting out the quote about urban hyms as being the verves album. as in the verves album urban hyms. it just made it sound like one. why i cut it out. i dont know. im goign to go and cry and get very scared now. in a cupboard. i guess people do longer posts than this. hmm. i think i will go and put my single tone fake brown beard n.h.s glasses with big bue eyes and eybrows with holes in the middle and a red head scarf type thing. as a disguise. mm,mmm. tape tree person. i dont actualy have any cds or tapes or anyhting music wise. my only posessions are a orange sock and a pipe. or i dont have anyhting to tape people. either way. hmm. id send another wonderfully personalised email to tell you this, but im scared, that i will go up from serial killer into cyber stalker serial killer. ignore that. bytheway. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From edb213 at xxx.edu Sat Apr 1 00:01:20 2000 From: edb213 at xxx.edu (Eric D. Brasure) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 18:01:20 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Please give welcomes to the new sinister toddler Message-ID: <002301bf9b65$076f4c80$92627a80@nyu.edu> Hello all. I've been reading your musings for almost a month now, and I finally decided that now would be as good a time as any to use the nursery key that I received a while back (St. Pat's Day, actually). I guess I was having too much fun playing with the alphabet blocks... I suppose that introductions are in order, so here goes. I'm an almost grown-up college student in good ol' New York City, who was introduced to B&S this past summer by a somewhat evil boy that shall remain nameless. He made me a taped copy of "If You're Feeling Sinister" and I immediately fell in love... with the music, you understand. I had already fallen in love with the boy, which turned out to be a mistake. Feel sorry for me, if you wish. Is anyone else *not* planning on buying the new single before the new album? It was rather nice of Matador to release the single here, but I don't want to spoil the album with new stuff. Does that make any sense to anyone else? I'll not bore you all anymore. Be well, and be wary of grocery store cashiers soliciting tips. Regards, Eric +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From browne at xxx.ie Sat Apr 1 00:11:07 2000 From: browne at xxx.ie (Caroline Mary Browne) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 00:11:07 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: the man who tasted shapes Message-ID: Hello Hi My name is Caroline and I'm the latest ` straight out of the nursery' type person. Look at you all smiling gleefully as you think ` great another nursery posting just what I hoped would be in my mail box hooray'. Rather than tell you a whole load of mundaneties by way of introduction I might just tell a story ........if thats okay.......... The Vicious Waves..... While in Edinburgh with a friend (Denise) last weekend we payed a visit to avalanche records. `What do you think of this' I asked Denise showing her a gentle waves cd. `I don't know but just get it' replied a very sickly hungover looking Denise. Flicking cds was also making me feel a little like vomiting and so I happily exchanged 7 pounds and ninety nine pence with the women at the counter for my gentle waves cd. After an exhausting day of climbing hills and taking photographs of me pointing at buildings we returned to our friends flat where we were staying/squating. After much effort trying to get a very silly cd player to play we gave track one a brief chance before moving swiftly on to track two then three etc. We had to turn it off because we felt like an audience at a school concert where the teachers pet plays the piano and the bold children laugh . After listening to Curtis Mayfield instead we headed of into town where we drank stimula bull- a combination of vodka gin and red bull all for the dangerously cheap price of 1.50 with a free vodka before twelve. This resulted in me saying to a random boy with what appeared to be a sleepy eye 'in a town so small theres no escape from view'. I was talking about Dublin where I live but just didnt tell him this nor mention the source of the quote. I then told him of how the streets in New York were paved with gold and so you could look at the skyscrapers from the Brooklyn Bridge. At this point I had confused a picture on the cigarette machine with reality.Talking at strangers about things which were only personally relevent seemed an appropriate mode of communication for the rest of the night before returning home for one hours sleep before getting two trains and a plane home. Previously I had just felt severely hungover but upon arriving home I felt a wave of insanity sweeping over me as waves do. Thinking sleep would be just the ticket I went upstairs and put my gentle waves cd on and tried to sleep. The red bull had, however ensured that sleep would be the very opposite to what my brain would feel like doing and so delerium/wake-sleep it was. Over this the gentle waves played causing me to hallucinate/ dream about Isobel hopping around deleriously with rabbits ears on - very scary. This was when I decided `tell mum thats what Ill do'. I told her all about the stimula bulls and how they make you insane and asked her to turn the scary music in my room off . She seemed a little frightened at my new adopted personality but turned of the music after being instructed how to work the cd player. I havent listened to the very scary waves since and am feeling a lot more intact in the mental department which was nice because it was my 21st on monday and I was forced into getting very drunk again. Sorry I know I have very much rambled on at this stage but... one last strange occurance before I go..... today when I went in to use the computers in college there were marzipan easter decorations on top of each of the computers. This was very strange I thought but I kind of wanted to eat one. One easter bunny had become squshed into what could have been an anti bunny or would it be anti easter. My friend thought that maybe there were hidden cameras and that we shouldnt eat them. It was nice meeting you . Bye now. Caroline xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzp. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Coldcolours at xxx.com Sat Apr 1 04:22:24 2000 From: Coldcolours at xxx.com (Coldcolours at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:22:24 EST Subject: Sinister: Don't split your infinitives, child, you talk like William Shatner Message-ID: Hello all! I have just returned from "High Fidelity." Question: HOW COULD THEY THROW OVER B+S FOR "WALKING ON SUNSHINE"???? Well, at least they did play them, and mention them as well. If the guy who played Dick, the shy record store worker, should happen to be a Sinisterine, honey you have my crush vote till the end of time :) Good movie though, if longish. To you who have read the book, do they go into the rules of making a mix tape? That is such a fascinating subject. You might remember me as the "diamonds on Neptune" girl. Nice to see you again. After my first post, where I gushed about the story in Tigermilk, some people tenderly informed me that Belle and Sebastian were not, in fact, real people. To them I say, I did know that. I just meant that the story bore so many similarities to their early history--the diner, the songs, etc--I figured that "B" and "S" were pseudonyms for Stuart and Isobel. If I am mistaken, I am filled with shame :). But everyone has been really sweet. I thank you. To answer another question, neither whistling nor playing B+S really loud in traffic has ever worked for me. At all. Has publicly (sp?) flaunting B+S ever worked for anyone here? I'd like to hear about it. A while ago, someone tried a Sneakers-scrabble tile thing with the new album title. I am very supportive of this, but very lazy--if you want to try it, check out the internet anagram server, there's a link to it on Subpop.com I believe. Let me know if anyone tries this and comes up with something interresant. It should now be painfully obvious that I had nothing to say. I apologize. :) May your dreams be sweet, never sinister... (For Murphy's sake!) Until we meet again Joanna "I know you...I care to...I see through...all of the pictures that you hang on your wall.." --Nick Drake To butcher Voltaire (?), "If Chris Murphy of Sloan had not existed, it would have been necessary to invent him." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pulpbot at xxx.com Sat Apr 1 07:10:05 2000 From: Pulpbot at xxx.com (Pulpbot at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 01:10:05 EST Subject: Sinister: sad music bastards Message-ID: <45.20ae01c.2616ecbd@aol.com> Damn, I thought I'd be the first to post about "High Fidelity" and report that I hooted loudly and knowingly when Seymour Stein starting playing. Fellow listee and movie companion Madflowr joined in my guffaws of indie knowingness and we came about a button's width to exchanging high fives. Imagine Belle and Sebastian were the New York Yankies strolling out on the field and we were the drunken fans with B&S painted in green on our bare chests, sloshing beer on the Radiohead fans. The movie was funny as hell, but just alright in careful contemplation. God, it's so weird to see a Slits album 15-feet high. Attack of the Giant Slits, indeed. I wonder what Joe Blow who stopped buying records after Billy Joel released "The Stranger" would make of it. But a relatively tiny number of people would get the scene where John Cusack (isn't my boyfriend beautiful, y'all?) apprehends shoplifers with Brian Eno, Minutemen and other unlike-minded bands, and Cusack's line after he busts them unless you know it's very dissimilar music. 'Course the movie doesn't have many moments like that; otherwise it'd be playing only DC instead of a mall in Virginia. --Jennifer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jda349 at xxx.edu Sat Apr 1 07:53:05 2000 From: jda349 at xxx.edu (Askins, Joseph D. (UMC-Student)) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 00:53:05 -0600 Subject: Sinister: And like that *snap* things are better... Message-ID: <7E34984FE36DD311B4920000E867D06E01EDDF66@tiger-mail02.mizzou.edu> Sigh...god bless good cinema. I'm sure the "High Fidelity" reviews will be rolling in shortly, and I've gotta put my vote of support behind it. I remember reading the book two years ago and being blown away. It's one of those rare occasions, like when you meet someone that actually recognizes that quote you like to throw out or that is annoyed by the same little flub in an otherwise brilliant movie. HF did that for me--sure, I was seventeen, Rob was in his thirties--but there was so much that connected. And the movie? Like I said: god bless good cinema. "High Fidelity" works so well. The records and old stickers in the record store, the posters on the wall, "Watch me sell five copies of 'The Three EPs' by the Beta Band," the Echo & the Bunnymen vs. Jesus and Mary Chain argument...god, it was perfect. And the Belle and Sebastian reference early on in the movie? Simple and subtle, poking a little fun at the band's tweeness, perhaps, but nonetheless harmless and humorous. A good plug for the band, even if "Seymour Stein" isn't exactly "the new Belle & Sebastian." It makes me want to read the book again, just to slyly show off my old dog-eared copy in lecture while all the other kids are reading their new copies with Cusack's mug on the cover (hey, it's a book about snobbery, so it's cool). And sorry, Brits, I know that some people mentioned that they couldn't imagine the story outside of London, but the movie works just as well in Chicago. Maybe it's because I know Chicago, I know Vintage Vinyl and Lounge Ax and such, but...yeah. I'll shut up now. JDA +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rxchamp at xxx.com Sat Apr 1 14:41:55 2000 From: rxchamp at xxx.com (Matt Evanosky) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 08:41:55 -0500 Subject: Sinister: atp/glastonbury question? Message-ID: <00ba01bf9be0$0f4dcdc0$5be5163f@oemcomputer> to all the "connected" listees, maybe someone can answer this? is it true that isobel is a closet marilyn manson fan....? and also are the rumours true that she is wholly responsible for the dark goth-rock sounds to be found on the new record? and also, is it true that the b&s will be bringing one mr. rose mcgowan over to one of the festivals to sing backup on one of the new tracks.???? just a (t)wee bit curious, mattnice you won't be happy with me, so give me one more chance..... you won't be happy anywhere...... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david at xxx.uk Sun Apr 2 15:45:36 2000 From: david at xxx.uk (David White) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 15:45:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Greetings Message-ID: I've just got out of the nursery at last. Unfortunately, I can't think of anything interesting to say just now. Did anybody else see the band on BBC Choice the other night? I was a bit disappointed that they only showed one song but I suppose it's better than nothing. I should mention that I run a site devoted to the band, you can find it at www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk I need people like you to help it work though. I need genuine fans to write reviews of their favourite songs and albums/singles and to write articles about the band or music. There's also a discussion board there for you to use. Anyway that's all for now, >>Dave<< http://www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jellybabs at xxx.com Sat Apr 1 20:19:41 2000 From: jellybabs at xxx.com (Katy Dutton) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 11:19:41 PST Subject: Sinister: Test Message-ID: <20000401191941.79200.qmail@hotmail.com> Hotmail doesn't seem to be working at the moment, and I actually have something to say! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jellybabs at xxx.com Sat Apr 1 20:22:09 2000 From: jellybabs at xxx.com (Katy Dutton) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 11:22:09 PST Subject: Sinister: Dagnammit! Message-ID: <20000401192209.25269.qmail@hotmail.com> It worked when I had nothing to say just then! Well, the general gist of what I had to say before was this: Sinister Village. The title of village journo has been bestowed upon my good self, and I've been conned (bribed by promises of sexual favours and jellybabies really) into writing a 'gossip column'. So what I'm saying is: I'll select the smuttiest bits from the list that everyone sees and stick em up, monitor trends in the crush list dept. etc etc (I got one! Nur nur...although it was from 'the old man' so it counts in a different [good] way...). But feel free to mail me, kids, with some scandalous snippets of gossip and I'll pass 'em on to the Village for public consumption. Katy x ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mattwardfhnn at xxx.com> Sat Apr 1 21:14:38 2000 From: mattwardfhnn at xxx.com> (mattwardfhnn at xxx.com>) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 14:14:38 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Be Trendy, Join the Club In-Reply-To: <200004011445.PAA09242@missprint.org> Message-ID: In a shocking display of synchronistic thinking, I, like many other list members, saw Hi-Fidelity last night. Very good, very entertaining movie. The Belle and Sebastian name-dropping was great, the said it not once, but twice. Made wish that a) I would invest in a good turntable and b) that I knew my music better outside of my rather limited, though wonderfully oddball and diverse, cd collection. Ah well, maybe I wasn't meant to be a true music snob, indie or otherwise. But I highly reccomend the movie, everyone on the list would enjoy the content relating to music, and I'm sure most of us can relate to the musings on love. Anyway, I shall now retreat back to the land of Baptists, but everyone enjoy the movie if you choose to view it! Ward +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From secretmysterydate at xxx.com Sun Apr 2 00:40:15 2000 From: secretmysterydate at xxx.com (brand new shoes) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 18:40:15 EST Subject: Sinister: everything is nice... Message-ID: <20000401234015.48342.qmail@hotmail.com> my dear lovely listerines, i haven't posted for about a week and i thought it would be a good time to do so, as i am entering the winter hours of my spring break, and the day is getting cloudy... To honey, thank you so much for tarting me up the other day on #sinister. i feel like wearing that fur coat/no knickers combo already. I had the pleasure of appearing twice this week in the local weekly, once in the background of Kitty Pryde's show at the 31st street pub (this is only a pittsburgh thing, sorry) where i played w/ them (they won best dyke-rock band in town) and once as a description of what the paper called "best looking baristas". i was pretty flattered. The place i worked always gets this vote in the paper because everyone that works there is some young college student/mod boy, but it described me exactly and i felt all blushy.[it said something about looking like a prada ad, which is not really true of course, but in pittsburgh it isn't hard to look stylish] (i am blushing actually as i write this, i can feel my cheeks get hot) so that was my ego rush for the week. though i am unintentionally single, and have been for a while, so it doesn't really make a difference. hrrmmm... anyway. all week (as #sinister folks know from my constant whining) i have been working on this stupid casting project and it is finally seeming like it got somewhere. not the best way to spend a spring break, let me tell you. the only thing that made it fun was the whole EP set and Tigermilk, which were on constant repeat down in the bowels of the foundery where i worked through the pretty days. i don't want to always be complaining though, so... I talked to my friend terry this week and he said that he LOVES london and is having the best time ever and wants to start a little art space when he gets back because he was all inspired by the tiny apartment galleries in East London. Pretty neat i think. So we will be living together and running a space next year it seems. If anyone wants a show, we would totally want to be an international gallery, so we'll keep everyone posted. ummmm... Dr sam's little advice column: If any of you musicians ever are told that they can play at someone's coffee shop/bar for a night. DON'T!!! it is the worst experience. you are standing/sitting up in front of these people and they are fucking ignoring you and talking and one table in the back applaudes, but everyone else seems to just look up like you are interupting their conversation. i did it last week and stopped half way through my set, said "this is horrible" and just left. i was embarassed to even have set up my stuff... i'll stick to real shows from now on, thanks ummmm...i seem to be one of the last sinister folk not to have seen High Fidelity, but i promise to see it soon. it sounds amazing. sigh okay so i just wanted to agree with who ever it was that was irked a bit by looper. i'm really sorry, but i have to say that, though the little essays are nice, they ring a bit too much like a scottish King Missle or something. a bit too much. i hope i don't swing a tide against me for coming out the of unconditional love for all b+s related things pile, but i can't keep it bottled up. therapy tells us we have to deal with things or they mess us up later. i don't want to end up exploding in my 40's over this. moving on... so b+s are coming to the US while i am going to be in Europe, this is classic. unless they hit the eastcoast much later than everywhere else we will be missing each other almost exactly. grrr. i may have to change my travel plans around them, which seems a little crazy, but you know, it's b+s! okay. that's all for now. love love love to you all. i envy those who can produce such pretty posts (like vel and laura) feelin' sexy, sam ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From invisible_boy at xxx.net Sun Apr 2 11:53:16 2000 From: invisible_boy at xxx.net (invisible_boy) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 11:53:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: subject line abuse : splat Message-ID: <006501bf9c91$ec8fc7e0$e40d3c3e@oemcomputer> Hello Sinister, Something of a hiatus since I last inflicted myself upon you. Nevermind, I'm sure I wasn't missed, and anyway most days I have naff all to say anyway. In fact, today may even be one of those days. We'll see. Seems that a lot of you are cramming for exams and whatnots right about now. Well, all I can say is stay frosty and good luck. I have the mixed blessing of having freed myself from formal education and the constraints it imposes, only to find myself lodged in the world of office working, with a whole different set of constraints and political systems to learn. And since just about every goddamn thing looks better in hindsight, I almost wish I was there with you. Almost. And while I'm thinking about pressures and constraints, I'd just like to say something about - I have no name for it, how about - Random Joy Syndrome. I know I'm not the only one to have this happen to them. You know when, just for no discernable reason at all, you just suddenly get an overwhelming gush of just utter bliss? Like stepping of the train into the rain and just getting soaked and smiling, or just sitting on the bus with your headphones on and for a few minutes just feeling so utterly content you can't seem to help yourself gurning like a madman, almost squirming with it. You can look at the something like the zipper on your jacket and it just looks so amazingly complex there doesn't seem any point in even trying to do anything else before you can get your head around and just fully understand that one thing. Everything else spills over from there. It all about the details I'm sure. Like the man said "Buddha is in the bush, but he's also in the fence" (I'm paraphrasing). Oops. Just went off on one. But all that stuff I really believe. Got some somehow come to terms with your immediate environment or else how can you start to behave rationally? So anyway, what I was trying to say is that emotions are difficult buggers to pin down. Since you have no real control over your feelings, and feelings (to some extent) define your actions and reactions, rationality really must have to fight to get a look in. Hmmm. Oh god shut up. You know you have no real point to make. Right. Getting away from that before I dig a pit and bury myself - here's another installment of The Very Best Thing That Happened To Me The Other Day : I dreamt that I took my sofa outside to the bus stop outside my house so that people could sit down whilst waiting. True. I woke up feeling all lovely. That's probably enough for now. I'll get my coat. Have fun you lot, and if anyone is knocking around in Leeds and feeling masochistic, let me know and maybe we can go get a beer or something. Byebye..... Kev (a boy with no plan) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jellybabs at xxx.com Sun Apr 2 18:27:32 2000 From: jellybabs at xxx.com (Katy Dutton) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 10:27:32 PDT Subject: Sinister: Weirdness Message-ID: <20000402172732.52341.qmail@hotmail.com> I'm very bored, so I just signed up to PopEx (an online music share thing) on the advice of a friend. And what's the first thing I see?: 'PopEx is BLUDDY GRATE@ Teehee ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sweetie_something at xxx.com Sun Apr 2 22:05:00 2000 From: sweetie_something at xxx.com (sweetie something) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 21:05:00 GMT Subject: Sinister: glitter lasts forever Message-ID: <20000402210500.92732.qmail@hotmail.com> sinister easter hols, YAY! and im in a fine fine mood today euch i just walked out my wee room to put a can in the bin then back in and it *stinks* like sweet and sour pot noodles. ive noticed that people have started doing this; /me is in a fine fine mood and i was gonna go into a big long thang about it but the i thought, no that would just be stupid, coz i realised to put *sweetie is in a fine fine mood would look even sillier but i was half way tho it when i realised i was talking complete and utter bollux- as per usual so anyway last day of school (for easter anyway) i went to this interhouse quiz thing (which was crap, i mean the car country sticker q's "if a car has a sticker on the back with an 'i' in it, where is it from?" [its italy as we soon found out] but we had a whole round of that!!!) and for a considerable amount of the way through the first round, i had a group of trendy bitches behind me giving me abuse. well what they consider to be abuse, but they have small, petty, shallow little minds so it was only things that they themselves would be offended by. they eventually got kicked out of the hall :) then the 6th years had a 'talent' show to fund their prom. i went, but only coz i had nothing else to do. i ended up the back sitting with the sound and light boys and a few other friends. but they did things like s club 7 and the venga boys. although i confess the venga boys one was quite funny. and then some of the boys did hot stuff and stripped off to their boxers on stage. and they were all quite well built and muscly, except 1, the most popular boy in school, and hes a skinny boy, and he has a really big head and no shoulders. dont get me wrong, i like skinny boys, but he just looks stupid. and on saturday i went to jason andreas' house and we watched true romance and listened to music. and i pulled out some of the hair on his fore arm coz it grows in silly directions. it does u know. :) and when we were waiting at the bus stop waiting for my bus we saw a big STU =M= scratched into the bus stop. and thought, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. :) at nite i went to my pals house across the road. there was er...6 of us theres normally 13/14/15 but most couldnt make it. i arrived an hour late and some of the lassies had been drinking and were high and acting more drunk than they could have been which was annoying, but pyjamela who was the worst was just leaving as i arrived anyway. first we played 'who wants to be a millionaire?' which is a bit silly really. and then we watched the end of entrapment which is also a bit silly. the film i mean. and today i was back at work. finally got some money. :) it was a bit boring coz it was so quiet but it could have been worse i guess. and i met the new manager. he can sure talk! its all changed, as it does every year. i ended up picking up all the dead leaves coz i was bored, even tho that was frasers job coz he was sposed to be in the flight area, but hes a lazy sod and wouldnt have done it. but i didnt get it all done coz i didnt start until later. and weve got some new stuff in, theres a mantis,which is really cool coz it watches u and giant grasshoppers and they r like 7" long! theyre huuuuuuge! and at one point i was looking in the stick insect tank and i saw a spiny one, which i had been told we didnt have any of. so i looked for more and found these 2 very odd looking spider sort of things. i didnt know if they were sposed to be there so i took them out and i was gonna keep them but i wanted to know what they are and i dont have anywhere to put them anyway. my boss imports stuff from trinidad so these could be anything. but that got me thinking, and i thought if i ever discover a new species, im gonna name i after sinister. :) and next week, my 2nd week off, im sposed to be going to this study thing at falkirk collage for help with my higher subjects (although if i get offered to work i wont be going) coz im doing so crap. apparantly they make u do physical stuff, i think they reffered to it as 'confidence building' but a lassie who went last year said that they made them put up a tent blind folded! aye right, i hope they dinnae think theyll hae me daein that! coz they can damn well think again! tonight we fly sweetie xox seem-less they are merely a facade any deeper and they do not exist they, so rebellious, so uniform ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From David1822 at xxx.com Sun Apr 2 21:16:13 2000 From: David1822 at xxx.com (David Strange Strange) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 13:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Oh stop moaning you grumpy ............. Message-ID: <9656977.954706573014.JavaMail.imail@doodle.excite.com> Hello you Lovely lot, Wow, what a week got a call last Saturday and it appears that I'll be going to All Timbale's Partings, it should be absouloutly fantabbyocious and absouloutly non mokeish. All the sinister kids should met up or organise a party or something equally cool, maybe even have a sinister football team to show those celebrities how to play, any ideas. I watched some Blackbirds today and they made me wonder why to birds often fly such a short distance sometimes when they could just hop to the same place?, if I was a bird I would fly everywhere and just use my hopping powers to play hopscotch with my birdie pals, maybe that's what they do. Why oh why do music papers label bands the new 'whatever' when there's nothing wrong with the old 'whatever' they've just lost favour in the journalists eye's, the NME and the Melody Pop (whoops I meant Maker) label anyband who sound a little folky and sweet the new B&S well there's nothing wrong with the old B&S thank you music paper's you're just a buch of Dickslaps (I had to get it in somewhere), they always build up new bands and then a few years down the line slag them off, but still like crap bands no names mentioned and always write good things about them even if they've released 5 singles from one album and totally sold out and speak utter crap, we could play a game guess what band I'm talking abot, mail me privately if you care and don't if you er don't. How bad was Gatsby the other day the actors were the worst I'd ever seen so wooden, oh dear it was almost as bad as this post no probably worse. See some of you at Camber and others whenever. oh yeah Brighton Hove Albion F.C for the division 3 playoffs up the seagulls etc. Dave 'without a crush since 1981' _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jrherr at xxx.edu Sun Apr 2 19:34:38 2000 From: jrherr at xxx.edu (josh) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 00:34:38 +0600 Subject: Sinister: high fidelity In-Reply-To: <200003090332.VAA23035@zoom1.telepath.com> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000403003438.007ec210@mail.vt.edu> a retire from lurkerdom for one moment... hi all.... I saw high fidelity on friday and was plesantly surprise by Belle and Sebastain's double name drop with the playing of seymour stein. Usually books get destroyed in the process of the movie making and I was so pleased that High Fidelity remained so true to the genius that the book was. At least a few movies this year were semi true to the books (cider house and end of the affair) and the usual destroying of great novels (i'm sure highsmith is rolling in her grave) occured too. The cameos of other indie peoples were great (Liam Hayes on piano) and the movie was great. If you haven't gone to see it I urge you to. I knew we were into something when the 13th floor elevators started the show. The book and movie spoke to the pretentious asshole that I am and i loved ever minute of it. the obligatory one ever three year post... thanks for listening ~ josh +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Mon Apr 3 05:45:19 2000 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (the angel blackwell) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 00:45:19 EDT Subject: Sinister: don't go on pointe unless you're a ballerina Message-ID: <20000403044519.7160.qmail@hotmail.com> oh dear sinisterites... i went to london this weekend...well, london ontario, and had a really fabulous time. we went to this little club, had fun, but i was wearing my big clunky shoes...well, i was showing off and and went up on pointe...my poor little toes are hurting my little body... but, I met a lot of b&s fans as well...i'm really happy. and they all listen to a lot of house/trance as well...i thought i was a little odd that i was this little raver boy and loved listening to b&s...but there are others...many others...a lot of these little boys and girls found looper and then wanted more... and i've also some to the conclusion that anytime i want to find a cd, it'll be all sold out...nick drake isn't anywhere to be found in toronto...i went out looking for nick drake and do make say think...none of which could be found here...i didn't want to have to buy them online...but it seems to be my only option... i just got digital tv...i have the other sister on...i'm gonna have a good cry..."how much do you weigh???" evening all...this time change is evil.... g'night and be well... the angel blackwell... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jennpr at xxx.edu Mon Apr 3 06:56:35 2000 From: jennpr at xxx.edu (jennpr at xxx.edu) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 01:56:35 -0400 Subject: Sinister: *can you help me?* Message-ID: <38E83292.AA3F3805@eden.rutgers.edu> ~hello~ well i have not see the movie yet but i hope to do so in the near future. last week i recieved the belle and sebastian shirt that i had ordered from the website. i also ordered the "badges" or "pins", some may say. i am proud to sport such on all my belongings now. i just hate the thought of losing one. the other day i had attended a show in ny and my roommate had purchased a pin from the band that played. it was $1. meanwhile i had bought two, one for my brother. we were taking the path train home and she lost it while we were boarding the overwhelmed train. we had to hop on it real quick. she was so sad. i tried to explain to her that i have lost at least 50 badges/pins in my lifetime and it can truly be a sad experiece but one that you have to get used to if you are to have them. now the purchase may have only costed, $1 but there is so much more to that little thing that adorns your bag/jacket. luckily i had bought the two so i gave her the other one i had. she is still very sad about it. well i am running for president of my class at my college and i need a slogan. i want a real good one and i just cannot think. Can you help me?? It can only be up to 15 characters, including spaces. Also, I am in the class of 2002-that may help. I will give you credit on my mini bio i include if you would like too. I just figure with all the well spoken fellow sinister folks, maybe someone could think of something that will stand out among the others that may run against me. i MUST win.. goodnight, jenn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Mon Apr 3 08:45:00 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 00:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: here I go again... an idea came to me you see.... Message-ID: <20000403074500.10399.qmail@web611.mail.yahoo.com> Finally! A return to the mothership (Scotland)! A recharge of the batteries! (Well, my mobile won't work without it!) And Three nasty essays due in after this little break. So, here I am, back in Scotland, Lazying about, and considering getting my hair cut, as its luvly punky thing has grown out a bit, and resembles a mullet, and thats not good. I had a dream the other night, that I was in a little newsagents, and they sold B+S stickers and sticker albums. Now, when I woke up, it seemed like a shame that you can't already buy this sort of thing, with pictures of Stu M and co. in sticker form. I mean it in a twee and slightly ironic move against the usual "pokemon" and Spice girl sticker albums that you can get. So, does anyone else agree that B+S should be turned into Stickers? It'd be great, if you ask me, swapping stickers with your belle and sebastian friends, and then when you get one they don't have waggling it (the sticker!) in their face and going "neeeh!". And now most of us are at an age where we don't need to ask our mum to lend us 10p or whatever it costs these days to buy a packet. We could go out there, and buy away! without having to ask for adult permission first! I could think of no better way to waste my student loan! God, why do I have such cool dreams where cool things happen? Dreams are very cool, if you ask me. You can conjure up the dead and hark back to the days when they were alive. Anyway, enough of my wishful thinking. But does anyone else think a sticker album of B+S would be a good idea? And hey! Looper in pog form! yay!!! Okay, I'm off now. thought I'd share that wee gem with you lot. Bye! Idleberry ===== http://www.geocities.com/idleberry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pixiemeat2 at xxx.com Mon Apr 3 08:58:56 2000 From: pixiemeat2 at xxx.com (Helen) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 07:58:56 GMT Subject: Sinister: always depend on the strangeness of kind friends Message-ID: <20000403075857.13261.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello all, After not having posted for quite some time I figured that i might make a brief reappearance. I saw the Lucksmiths the other night in perth and was mightily impressed. I knew that it would be good as soon as i saw the study in stow shirt on the guitar player. And I have it on good authority that at the show the night after, the bass player was also wearing a b&s shirt. Hijinks abounded, although most of them on the second gig that they played apparently, (which i of course could not attend:( ) and though it was hard to pass up a Lucksmiths frisbee, i ended up in a half share in a c.d., (and although the other partner in this purchase is soon to buy me out, i think i'll forgive him, this time at least ;)). Ahh the perils of unemployment and therefore lack of money. in the past two weeks i have left my school, and left my job. everyone keeps on reassuring me that i WILL get a job, but there is only so much rejection that a girl can take. 'if they'd only give me a chance' i think. At least i'm managing to kind of avoid looking like a slob, my standards of personal hygiene are as high as they ever were. oh and i was mightily disappointed with the prospect of 'judy is a dick slap' being an instrumental. I was hoping for all kinds of words to come out of stuarts mouth that would shock and embarrass the neighbours when i played it really loud out my window.... bye for now helen (subject line courtesy of the Lucksmiths) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Grrrtrude at xxx.com Mon Apr 3 09:46:26 2000 From: Grrrtrude at xxx.com (Grrrtrude at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 04:46:26 EDT Subject: Sinister: glastonbury/introduction/possible list abuse Message-ID: <8e.32fe1c0.2619b462@aol.com> hello, sinister people. i'm stepping out of my shy, lurker mode to attempt a proper introduction in hopes of finding nice people to hang around with this summer. i'll be wandering around europe for part of june and july before starting school in england mid-july and over to amsterdam for more school beginning of august. i would love to meet any sinister people as i've found all of your posts to be quite pleasant, particularly one of a certain english boy who has my list crush vote. :) about me - well, uhm, i'm happy, mischievous, friendly and an overall reasonable person. i'm 24, orginally from tx, went to college in dc, and now go to law school in ny (it's usually as awful as it sounds). i find myself interested in too many things to mention so i'll spare all of you who aren't remotely interested in this post. for anyone who thinks they might want to be friendly to me on my trip e-mail me privately and we'll chat and you can decide if you actually want to be friendly to me. i'm starting my trip with the glastonbury festival and would be thrilled to avoid using my tent by myself. thanks everyone and apologies if this qualifies as list abuse. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elenita99 at xxx.com Mon Apr 3 11:54:17 2000 From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita99) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:54:17 CEST Subject: Sinister: traumatic WE Message-ID: <20000403095417.43178.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello you all, I feel awful today and I have been all week-end, I wanna share with you why cos I feel miserable. OK, here's the story: I was walking down the main street in Camden (London) with my flatmate on Friday night, not very late though, around 10, to meet some friends. I should precise here that my flatmate is a guy, not very tall but not very small either, just looking like any other guy in the street. So we are walking and then we heard someone yelling/calling behind us. first we don't notice, then we look behind and quite far away was a kid, about 16, shouting at us. I keep walking but well it seems that he definitly talks to us so my friend stops and walks a few steps towards the guy to see what he wants, a fag or so? He didn't had time to say a word that the other one was giving him a first strong punch in the face, then another one, and then around 10 other kids are coming from behind the first one and from the other side of the street and start beating and hiting him, all this happened in 5 seconds. Then I suppose the whole thing lasted a minute or so, all I managed to do was scream and ask people for help (nobody gave a shit, by the way) while my friend was trying to avoid kicks and punchs lying on the pavement. Then some stopped, he managed to stand up and we went away as quick as possible while the kids went back and splitted. He's OK now, I mean nothing serious except half face blue and feeling hurt in many parts, but nothing needing hospital or so, thanks God. I felt and still feel helpless and powerless towards this, I can't help thinking about it: it was totally without any reason (nothing to steal, no argument, etc...) except that these kids were probably bored or wanted "fun" and excitment. And I couldn't do anything, I really couldn't. And nobody around us cared at all. OK, this is not really amusing and I hope I won't spoil your day, but I had to write it, it's driving me mad. Elena ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From topher at xxx.org Mon Apr 3 11:07:13 2000 From: topher at xxx.org (Christopher Lanier) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 05:07:13 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Good Happy Monday Morning.. bleh Message-ID: <38E86D50.3F8EEB3D@belleandsebastian.org> Dear Friends... I had a dream that I would like to share with you. Maybe you'll find it cute. I dreamt last night that I had won the Kentucky State lottery. I then bought a really neato house on the coast (any coast pick one) . This house had wooden floors of maple and was just the coziest place I've ever seen. Anyway I bought everyone plane tickets and sent them out anonymously and brought you all to my house for a big party. It was so nice. This would have been better written if it wernt 5am in the morning after a sleepless night. P.S. are there are violinists/cellists out there that would like to marry me? just asking. I have to clean my room now. bye bye ;) love, topher the popest. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From timothy at xxx.net Mon Apr 3 11:56:09 2000 From: timothy at xxx.net (Tim Hackett) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:56:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: lets make daisy chains Message-ID: <004f01bf9d5b$3adb5260$2a00010a@hostb42.internal.zone> I can finally see summer at the end of the wintery tunnel, not because it has rained a little less this monday morning, or because it was light when I woke up, but because glastonbury tickets go on sale today. Belle and Sebastian are on the official glastonbury 'rumours' list, so what does anyone think the chances of them actually playing are? About as great as it not raining this year. Then again, I suppose it only rained once or twice last year, and one of those occasions was entirely the fault of travis. And I didn't really notice that, as I was with a girl with a very nice blue and green and orange and purple stripy hat. Cuddling together meant we didn't get nearly as wet, so it was for purely practical reasons, you understand. honest. Oh, I'm looking forward to living on welsh cakes and wine for another 5 days already... love and kisses, scampi.x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From RPushong at xxx.com Mon Apr 3 14:14:59 2000 From: RPushong at xxx.com (RPushong at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:14:59 EDT Subject: Sinister: i get my fizz at the p*o*p shop... Message-ID: <3e.2293e31.2619f353@aol.com> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ take the skinheads bowling... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ what is the big deal if i grow my hair!...i have had a shaven head for the last 5 years...don't get me wrong...it was very nice having closely cropped hair...but the time has come for a change...david beckham shaving his head just about killed it for me...so for the last 3 months i have been secretly growing my hair...i tend to wear a woolly hat all the time in the winter...so noone has noticed...but last week i decided to unleash my rapidly growing crop of hair to my work colleagues...and this is the gods truth people didn't recognise me...it was very funny...got the expected derisive comments from the chaps...& one or two curious looks from the ladies... mmm... interesting... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ a case of wine delivered to my flat...for free...with my reputation... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ its absolutely true...apparently i was automatically entered in a birthday draw...that i knew nothing about...i had to make a couple of calls to make sure that i wouldn't get a sneaky bill...but its absolutely free...i have won something...alcoholic no less!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ clock strikes thirteen... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i've been listening to the remarkable "clock strikes thirteen"...i like it allot...it makes me feel all fuzzy inside...also listening to the "graham" popwish ep..."i get my fizz at the pop shop" has to be the most inspired piece of song titling since the chrysanthemums "i wish marvin gayes father had shot me instead"...from the album "is that a fish on your shoulder or are you just pleased to see me?"...but saying that i see b&s is in on the act with the inspired " judy is a dick slap "...short but to the point... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "got any giro's..." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ see i work for the post...going to work coming back from work...i have this said to me at least 6 times a day...but there's one guy i see everyday...he sits on the same bench...with his can of special brew...and as soon as he sees me...he shouts at the top of his voice " GIRO!!!!! " ...now don't get me wrong...he doesn't bother me...he doesn't mean any harm...but its other peoples perception of him...lately i've seen some people be very cruel to him...really shout at him...yes he's in a bad way...he's an alcoholic...but i won't even pretend to know his story...whatever has made him like this...because you see we all have a story...we all have a threshold... some people have a point they reach and then they just stop caring about other people and mostly themselves...i don't know what happened to him to make him like this...but i won't look down on him...and make fun of his situation...because that's not nice... and i'm not like that...these people that shout at him and make fun of him don't realise that one day it could happen to them...on that thoughtful note i'll say goodbye...take care kids... down... but not yet out... richard...i...p ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "i see a handful of hope ... spinning in time ... this i'm told ... is mine" east village "mine"... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brandtpfundak at xxx.com Mon Apr 3 15:12:17 2000 From: brandtpfundak at xxx.com (Brandt Fundak) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 07:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Hey Orpheus! Message-ID: <20000403141217.16338.qmail@web1801.mail.yahoo.com> Hello my dear friends, It's been a while, but I really had nothing of importance to say. I really don't now either, but my weekend was so fabulous I had to share. This weekend I saw two incredible shows, which will hopefully be a sign of things to come in this sleepy town. Suffice it to say, I am no longer dissatisfied with living in Cleveland, although I still find it difficult to talk to my fellow Clevelanders when I go to these shows. Hopefully I can take care of that in the coming weeks. Anyway, I had been looking forward to this past weekend more than I have been looking forward to the new releases by Belle and Sebastian (obligatory band reference for the list) although I talked up the new releases to the kids I talked to at the shows this weekend. Anyway, I saw the following bands on consecutive nights (I seem to be having preposition problems): THE MAKE UP and RAINER MARIA. The Make Up in a word were incredible. I understand how someone could be lukewarm to their LPs or even annoyed by them, but live--wow. It's kind of like the difference between using chat or e-mail and actually talking to someone--you miss out on a lot. I was completely blown away by Ian's energy, thought it was cool that they all wore uniforms, and that the bass player was a definite cutie. They just exuded sexuality with their performance--I was definitely hot and bothered by the time they were done. (Yes I know this disturbs some of you) Anyway, I had no outlet so I went home and watched IRON CHEF. The next night I went and saw Rainer Maria. They were incredible as usual. They also were kind enough to play some of my favorite songs, and Kyle told me afterward they would be back during the summer, so now I am all geared to see them again (especially since he told me they want to have their new LP out in September.) I would have talked to him more, but the bouncers threw us all out, because of daylight savings (even though I didn't think it happened until 2 am and he was tossing us out at 1:40. Once again, I went home and watched IRON CHEF. Anyway, I probably shouldn't have shared this, but to me this weekend was the beginning of what is going to be a fabulous summer--tons of shows in Cleveland, new releases by B & S and finally living on my own again--things are fianlly looking up. Okay, you can delete this now (if you haven't deleted it already.) Brandt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Mon Apr 3 14:34:38 2000 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:34:38 BST Subject: Sinister: i don't care, i'm insured Message-ID: <50E3BD32DAB@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> haven't posted for a while, but then everyone who's ever read my posts will realise that i only send them when i'm depressed and my greetings come with the shock news that just now i'm reeally happy. thought i'd better send you a farewell message, though, i'm having trouble keeping up with you all, what with my hectic social life and i'm going home in a few days, so i won't be able to access my uni account, so i'm unsubbing for a while. i'll try and keep upwith you on the www and one day i might even be able to find my way into #sinister. and i hope i can keep my place in the village, or i won't have anywhere to live. seen lots of bands lately: -broadcast - mmm, gorgeous -ooberman - RAWKed more than i expected and my new tip for tweeish scottish band who needless to say will be tarred with the b+s label - khaya, they're fantastic. any band that can have a twee cellist and a bloke in an ac/dc t-shirt get my vote. (unless ballboy get it first, but we'll have to see about that) even though i won't be reading them, on everyone else's behalf, i think we've had enough of the high fidelity reviews, no-one needs to read 1200 opinions of the same film. or maybe thats just me. if anyone's interested, the next b+s night at the star+garter in manchester is on 12th may. if you want to know any more, mail me and i'll get the organisers to get in touch with you. the main point of my post is to reassure any lost/miserable souls out there (and i know there's a few of you) that stuff can turn out to be alright (and in some cases even grate). if memory serves, i've spent the duration of my time on the sinister list complaining about not having a man and not being able to cope with uni and anything else i could possibly think of that was making me miserable. well, as of the last couple of weeks all of that seems to have sorted itself out, and without going into details of how fabulous my boyfriend is and how the sun's been shining, i'd just like to remind you all to hang on in there and eventually it'll be alright. sorry, not that anyone really needs or wants my advice, but sometimes i can't help myself. oh no, there's so many more things i wanted to say, but dammit this is turning into one of those posts that you scroll through and don't read any of (not that i ever do that you understand) so i shall leave you now and get on with my new campaign, jaffa cakes have now come to dominate the world, so i am now promoting vodka and irn-bru (not wkd, but the actual separate things but together) love and jaffa cakes (that still sounds better) fiona ~~~~i would lock you up but i could not bear to hear you screaming to be set free grrrrrrr oh and if anyone wants to get in touch, don't reply here, you'll find me at feegrr at hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From smiley at xxx.uk Sun Apr 2 20:58:39 2000 From: smiley at xxx.uk (Mike) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 20:58:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I blame Douglas Coupland Message-ID: <000201bf9d8e$ceefc480$f041883e@n8j4k7> Hello chickens, The other day I was feeling a bit depressed, because I was bored and lonely and all the rest of it. And normally if I'm feeling a bit down I'll play melancholy records. I like to listen to music that reflects my moods, y'know. So I was really mad with myself last night when I drove my friend and my brother to Sheffield because I was feeling happy and I wanted to listen to Supergrass, but my friend detests them and made me choose something else. Afterwards I really hated myself for caving in to what he wanted. Whoa, I've gone right off course there. So I was feeling depressed the other day, and rather than pick out something sad, I put Tigermilk on. This is my point here, ready? Right: Belle & Sebastian records reflect any mood I'm in. It's weird, most music is sad or happy (or middle of road, but that's boring), but B&S sound sad when I'm sad and happy when I'm happy. This obviously makes them fabadocious, which is a word I'll now be campaigning to get in the dictionary. I've just read the new (May) Select, and a little B&S bit reminded me of something I read. I think it was the manager who mentioned the use of a mellotron. This is good, because mellotrons are great, grate and even gr8. The only good thing about the new Oasis album is the heavy use of a mellotron. That's all I have to say about that. Oh, and the new look Select is hideous. It looks like some god awful lad's mag. Right down to the easy to clean (sorry) extra glossy pages. Also the Slipknot video on the CD is about as scary as Thora Hird and about as offensive as Toy Story after heavy censorship from Mary Whitehouse. It was all I could do to stop short of pissing myself with laughter. I really would like to go to a Slipknot gig and just storm the stage, cut all the power to the PA and say "Oh do stop being silly, you're tea's getting cold". I bet they'd cry, the wusses. Update on Sinister saga - my second visit to #sinister was even more disastrous than the first. Although at least I have started to master mIRC and it's command thingies, I did however wander off at one point to park my car properly outside, rather than in the middle of the road where I'd left it, and forgot to tell anyone. So if you were on #sinister on Sunday afternoon, I wasn't ignoring you, I was just being stupid. Adios, Mike smiley at rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk http://www.rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk Post Script: I realise there might be a bit too much B&S content here for some people, and I promise that my next post will have no relevance to anything at all. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_t_opher at xxx.com Mon Apr 3 16:59:52 2000 From: chris_t_opher at xxx.com (Chris_t_opher) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 16:59:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #103 References: <200004011445.PAA09242@missprint.org> Message-ID: <000501bf9d8f$09810dc0$356b01d5@gsh> Exhibitionists, The *horizontally-challenged* Wizard said: "Anyway, the other thing I wanted to rant about was the Virgin store in Stirling, no Godspeed You Black Emperor, no Go Kart Mozart, in fact nothing that I wanted to buy except ridiculously pricey stuff. for example a Sparklehorse EP for only 10 pound, or how about 8 track sound system by fonda 500, last week it was 12 pound, this week they decided to sell it for 16, cunts." Just to be near a music shop that has ANY of them would be nice. I have to sit on a train for 90 minutes just for the privilege. Go Kart Mozart i heard last week and didnt have enough time to write down their name. Thanks for reminding me. I got an email that the new Sparklehorse Album is due very soon, so just hold out for that. And Fonda 500 probably arent as good as you'll hope. "Super Furries on a budget" i say. Anyway, im going to see Godspeed on Wednesday in Manchester (anyone else?) so, i'll be able to give my view on them soon :o) If i'm anything like Ian McK, expect to see me ranting soon. i r e a l i s e d t o d a y t h a t i a m i n v i n c i b l e Go on, take you're best shot. You just can't hurt me, can you? I want to meet a girl. But i don't want a girlfriend. I hope that doesn't confuse you. Because, if it does, you've never experienced what i'm experiencing now. Shame on you :o) Chris_t_opher - becoming more brief +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk Mon Apr 3 18:23:33 2000 From: amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk (amy_jackson0) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 18:23:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the sweet smell of snow on a cold and frosty april morning Message-ID: <000001bf9d91$a5012e40$86d4b0c2@tinypc> hello, how are you all this fine Monday evening? today it was snowing where i live, i woke up to find a blanket of white on the ground. this made me very happy, because i felt all Christmassy, then I realised that it was the third of April, not the 25th of December, and i felt sad. Christmas is my favourite time of year, i love the way everyone seems to be so happy, the decorations and the general feeling of "woo hoo, no more work/school for a few more days" etc etc.... so, back to today. i went to school and showed my friends my photos of the idlewild concert i went to. they were not impressed. they don't like idlewild, b&s, mercury tilt switch, laeto, peeps into fairyland, sleater-kinney, ash, chicks, seafood, Gorky's, llama farmers, deus, or any of those "weird scuzzy indie-schmindie bands" (their words, not mine) that i love. they all love boyzone, steps, another level and westlife, because they think that members of these bands are tidy and therefore their single/albums deserve to be bought....*grrrrrr* i do not understand this theory at all, not that i'm saying that members of b&s or idlewild or any of the above bands aren't nice looking, but their music means more to be than mere looks......so they decided to blank me all day (for a change)...now, in a bigger school i would find others who share my love of music, and i do know my lovely b&s boy, but he lives on the other side of the country *sob*....but there is only 200 pupils at school, and none of them like the same sort of music as me!! majorly aggravating, non? so i spent most of the day hanging around, listening to my walkman (the boy done wrong again being my personal fav. song at the moment, along with Seymour stein) and dreading maths.....well, the day came and went, and now i am at home, much happier because i am at home, writing a message that will be seen by 1200 people who may have been in the same position as me and know what i am going through. i am sorry my messages seem to be so depressing, i don't mean to be!!! i could tell you all a joke, but all the ones i know are rude and i don't think you'd like them...well, here's a non-rude one for you all..... an Englishman, an Irishman and a Scotsman are working on a building site, at the top of a crane. they sit down for their lunch together, and open up their lunch boxes. the Irishman goes "oh no, cheese and pickle sandwich again!! if i get this tomorrow, i'll jump off the crane" the Englishman goes "god, a peanut butter sandwich!! if i get this tomorrow, i'll jump too!" and the Scotsman goes " another ham sandwich, if i get this tomorrow, i'll jump with you both"....so the next day, they're back and they open their lunchboxes. the Irishman finds a cheese and pickle sandwich, so he jumps off the crane. the Englishman finds a peanut butter sandwich, so he jumps as well and the Scotsman finds a ham sandwich, so he throws himself off the crane. at the funeral, the widows are sat together consoling eachother. the widow of the Irishman goes "oh, if he had just told me, i would have made something else", the widow of the Englishman goes "i know, Arthur never said anything to me either" and the widow of the Scotsman says "well, i don't know why Jock did it, he always made his own lunch" !!!!!! okay, not exactly hysterical, but it made me smile.... adios, littlebelle (she's living la vida loca) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nik_ovenden at xxx.com Mon Apr 3 22:00:46 2000 From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: abbrev. +/- 2 b :-( , :-) & $-) . U ? Message-ID: <20000403210046.28600.qmail@web2103.mail.yahoo.com> msg: n e 1 l's �-| w/ t' abbrev. e.g. LLPJ, FYHC,YWLAP & TIJAMRS? Y? N? am/pm 2 X & write coherently! sorry, it's late and i'm snowed in...no chance of escape from shipham. AAAGHH! Abbreviations are the scourge of the lazy people, and those who like codes... i like cods better. they're just so confusing, and impossible to write an entire email in! peach smints are great and i'd like to say anyone going to the all tomorrow's will be smited with a giant fireball if i dont get there. Sorry, i know that's not entirely fair, but i am not one to piss about. This list is very efficient! it took select ages to print the Belle And Sebastian album track listing! I am notably impressed, for one scared of so many others... the tape tree thing is a good idea, go for it! Biros and lollipops also rule. They're both great for bored people. Lollipops are better though, they taste nicer. Alfie are great - anyone going to bootleg their all tomorrow's set? please say yes... I need to say something worthwhile. You won't hear from me again, i'm turning buddhist NOW. Sorry. 'New paths to helicon part 1' is one of the most beautiful songs i have heard in a long while. and easy rider is the best film i've seen in ages. and good luck to vikki in (re)fnishing her essay, poor lass...never trust you metallic box with bits of plastic in... Sorry again. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From michael at xxx.net Tue Apr 4 01:18:24 2000 From: michael at xxx.net (Michael Cronshaw) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 01:18:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: You dirty, dirty man Message-ID: <003e01bf9dcb$5a7c9820$02000003@oemcomputer> Hello everybody peeps, Sweet, sweet Stu M. I had a dirty daydream... those of a twee disposition please look away now. Only hardened B&S fans should read the rest of this drivel... Stuart finished choir practice, met up outside the church with Isobel, and was riding her home on his Chopper. Stuart was riding too fast, and he burst a tyre. He felt a bit disappointed, so he lit a cigarette and they both started wheeling the bike back. It was a long walk, so they stopped at the park on the way to play on the swings. Stuart pushed Isobel hard and fast, and it wasn't long before she was reaching places she'd never been before, and was spinning round and round the pole. Then Stuart wanted a go, so Isobel gave him a hand, but he wouldn't go as far as Isobel, and was happy swinging both ways. After all this activity, Stuart started salivating - he was gagging for something to put in his mouth to satisfy him, so he popped into the village shoppe to buy some sweets. Isobel wanted some, so she sucked Stuart's lollipop, but it wasn't enough for her, so they decided to go round to Chris' to play with his organ. On the way there, they bumped into Richard, who was with Sarah, who had a big bucket - they'd been to KFC, coz Richard loved the taste of chicken. They carried on at a slow but steady pace, and after a while Richard's mobile started vibrating, so he reached into his pocket, and after fumbling around for a while, pulled it out and held it up to Sarah's face. It was Chris, who said Stevie and Mick were coming. Richard couldn't stand the excitement, so he pumped up Stuart's inner tube to make it temporarily hard, got on and went like the clappers. The rest of them banged along on their feet, but it was really long and tiring, and Sarah had an insatiable appetite, so she naughtily ate Richard's spicy drumsticks. When they got there, they found Chris, Stevie and Richard were taking it in turns to blow Mick's trumpet. That's all of the dream I can remember, I think they all had a good time around Chris' joint. Oh, and at the end, Stevie Jackson Stuart. B&S are dick slappin' good. I don't normally have dreams like this, but B&S are so wild they bring out the animal in me. Glastonbury should be marvellous, whether or not B&S are playing. I hope to see y'all there. I found a good band at mp3.com called Chimp - this is their web site: http://www.chimp.cwc.net/ The video at the site is grate, it takes a long while for it to buffer, but it's worth it. Brighton & Hove Albion F.C. - Top! (well maybe one day) Mikey.x ------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes yes yes should have guessed it before She never was happy with him No no no she gave plenty of clues We all thought that she was faking To end the crying in the morning people say "It fades away" To end the violence in the evening, "Life goes on" I'm not sure if that's quite what she'd say ------------------------------------------------------------------- amelia fletcher, "y.y.u.b." by marine research +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kpc98c at xxx.UK Tue Apr 4 02:55:14 2000 From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 02:55:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Get clean stuff away from here, I'm dying my hair... Message-ID: <200004040155.CAA27387@missprint.org> Hi, Sorry for the lame subject line.. my brain is numb at the moment Not much to write about I'm fraid.. apart from I just listened to My Wondering days are over and it's bluddy grate! (B&S content) Like a few others in the list I've been having some weird dreams recently.. can't remember many of them but one was them was like this.. There was this guy busking on the street by playing guitar, he was doing the stairway to heaven solo and was absolutely brilliant at it, and he went on playing for ages, playing so hard his fingers almost fell off but no one paid him any money. Instead, the people on the street were all around this other guy also busking, he busked by pressing the play button on his decks and some dance tune come up... and everyone paid him loads of money and said respect to the man and everything.. well, that was it actually, sorry it wasn't really that exciting and has no sexual innuendos in it :-(.. (sound of moans of disappointment from the crowd) oh alright, how about, everyone in the audience paid the dance guy 69 quid, there. sorry, again, for the crappy post next time I promise I'm gonna write something so good that you'd like to read it rather than drinking Red Bull. littlebelle said.. >>i could tell you all a joke, but all the ones i know are rude<< hmm.. rude joke.. any other ruud boys and girls on this list so we can force lil'bel' to offend the tweekidz with an extra rude joke? Nik said... >>the tape tree thing is a good idea, go for it! Biros and lollipops also rule. They're both great for bored people. Lollipops are better though, they taste nicer.<< I agree! But I wouldn't like to join the lollipops tree cos that sounds pretty unhygenic... but a tree that grows lollipops would be wicked. I really will stop now! Bye :-))))))))))))) Ken ====================================================================== Take Judy, with her bow and arrow, she's a mastermind Too frumpy for the teenage population of her time Car coat, she has a quilted jacket with a hood if it rains Big pockets for the pharmaceuticals she takes to fix her brain. - Belle & Sebastian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Tue Apr 4 11:33:50 2000 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (Ben Ferneyhough) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 11:33:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: **Personal - Nick Dastor** Message-ID: <200004041033.LAA03773@brookes.ac.uk> Sorry to abuse the list, but Nick, can you mail me, I've lost your address, and I need to thank you for something. Ben :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexburton36 at xxx.com Tue Apr 4 12:00:07 2000 From: alexburton36 at xxx.com (Alex Burton) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 12:00:07 BST Subject: Sinister: I'm Free! Message-ID: <20000404110008.34738.qmail@hotmail.com> Batten down the hatches, lock up yer daughters and barricade the doors as I've finally been deemed compos mentis enough to leave the mental institution known as The Nursery and join the (hopefully) more stable home of people who frequent the sinster list. This is the obligatory first message to Sinsiter which will no doubt bore everyone to tears. I tried to join about half a year ago but got bored with all the messages but now I'm determined to keep up and I already have my own favourite posters -- feegrr, where have you been? It's alright I know about you and Mr Payne but that's it for you and The Smiths, you aren't allowed to like them once you've found the lurve of yer life (ooh, controversial, but don't be too harsh as I'm new and I want to feel wanted, okay?) New B+S album has The Wrong Girl on it which should be worth it and can't wait to hear the new single and see them tour. The new Doves album is as good as all the media twonks say it is. Everyone should watch Jam on Thursday, C4 10.30; it'll warp yer mind. Oh and I'm gonna buy Boxing Hefner on Monday even though I've already heard it from a friend who had a promo. Why oh why oh why did they cancel the Manchester gig with the Violent Femmes?!?! That's it I'l curtail my message now as you're all falling asleep and I have a 5,000 word essay to do for tomorrow and I haven't even started it. Au revoir and keep on! Mr Tragedy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordiet at xxx.com Tue Apr 4 13:07:21 2000 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: 4 Apr 2000 05:07:21 -0700 Subject: Sinister: The noise people made to me... Message-ID: <20000404120721.16673.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From Mark at xxx.com Tue Apr 4 14:29:24 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 14:29:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 2nd shortest post ever Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22DB39D0@SERVER1> Hi Sinister. I don't have much to say today (other than that me and Miss Vicky are off to Venice tomorrow!), but I have a request. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Tue Apr 4 16:54:59 2000 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:54:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: If the kids are united, they will never be divided Message-ID: <00fa01bf9e4e$4fc03ee0$45d8b0c2@default> Booyakasha! Dis is me, Ali J, talking to you, my Sinister Massive, from deepest darkest Cumbernauld. Okay, enough of all that. Sweetie said: >and on saturday >i went to jason andreas' house and we watched true romance and listened to >music. and i pulled out some of the hair on his fore arm coz it grows in >silly directions. it does u know. :) I'm glad she didn't mention the incredible mess my room is in ;) I feel that I must defend my forearm hair here. It doesn't grow in silly directions at all, she's exaggerating T'was the first time I'd ever seen True Romance, and despite the fact that it was in widescreen, I enjoyed it immensely. First phone-box sex-scene I've ever seen too ;) I'm meandering down to her place on Friday, so I'll be able to pull her hair out >and when we were waiting at the bus stop waiting for my bus we saw a big >STU >=M= >scratched into the bus stop. and thought, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. :) I asked around Eastfield (where I live) about this, and you'll never guess what I found out. The guy who did that is *really* called Stuart Murdoch. Now isn't that cool ;) "Do you think you can match my Wu-Tang sword style?" I've been reshaping my life in many many ways lately. I've decided that college just isn't for me - I'm fed up of all the little middle-class fucks that wander around looking down at everyone I shall undoubtedly live out my days on a production-line somewhere, but hey, at least it's money See y'all soooooooooooooooon :) --Jason Andreas Silent whispers in my head, Never heard but always said. ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Tue Apr 4 17:25:56 2000 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 12:25:56 -0400 Subject: Sinister: so i made up some facts about hag eels... Message-ID: <001401bf9e52$6e2ccd40$6d02a7d1@yesic.com> ...and i told them to this girl in my linguistics class. and then she told her boyfriend's younger brother and his friend, and her boyfriend's younger brother's friend was so disgusted that he vomited everywhere. to be honest i know nothing about hag eels, for all i know they _do_ live in other animal's rectums. i also made up that they were a great maritime resource for countries like portugal and that they have these giant hag eel farms off shore which are these incredible walls of simulated larger sea creature rectums, which attract the hag eels. when an unsuspecting hag eel enters a simulated rectum it is sucked by a vaccuume up into some big room full of similarly tricked hag eels where they are then collected by happy portugese fishermen. frankly, i've nothing against the portugese either it was just the first country that came to mind. i also said that hag eels were usually used to make very exotic footwear. hell, i'm no zoologist. (and who is, really) its a hazy mysterious day here, and the light is always staying the same. it seems like its permanently stuck in that sort of atmosphere that there is when you wake up super-early to travel somewhere and the air is pregnant with strangeness and such....yes. and i'm listening to electric miles davis, which is marvelous for this kind of foggyness. only its a bit too cold, when the humidex starts up _then_ its really electric miles davis weather. i just recently figured out why everytime i see mark e smith in a brittish music magazine he's shrouded in this aura of critical invincibility, because he's really good with that fall band of his isn't he. i'd listened to the fall before and never 'gotten' it, and now i 'got' it and its quite the thing no? also, does anyone else find Galaxie 500 to be incredibly sexy music? wow, for real....i don't know why but it just is.... hmm. so this was another 5minutes wasted. sorry. are there any rorys on the list? seeeen keeo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From CountingStars at xxx.net Tue Apr 4 20:48:53 2000 From: CountingStars at xxx.net (Painting With Light) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 20:48:53 +0100 (GMT+01:00) Subject: Sinister: Turn the turtle over! Message-ID: <20000404194857.5294.qmail@fsmail.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From the_gibber at xxx.com Tue Apr 4 21:32:43 2000 From: the_gibber at xxx.com (Ian McKinney) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 21:32:43 BST Subject: Sinister: Downright List Abuse: Paris Nightlife Message-ID: <20000404203243.38476.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello everybody, I don't mean to gloat, but my girlfriend and I are going to Paris on a wee holiday next week and I was wondering if any french listees or those familiar with the city could point us in the direction of any groovy rock/indie clubs? We don't want to be stuck in the hotel at night. Thank you and goodbye, Ian. Mother Honey - I apologise for this downright list abuse. please don't spank me. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Tue Apr 4 22:39:32 2000 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:39:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm sorry, but you all *have* to see this... Message-ID: <005d01bf9e7e$480f66a0$e0d7b0c2@default> http://www.askjesus.org/ask.cgi?http://www.missprint.org/sinister/ --Jason Andreas Silent whispers in my head, Never heard but always said. ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From scorn-pie at xxx.uk Tue Apr 4 22:48:12 2000 From: scorn-pie at xxx.uk (Victoria Adam) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:48:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: festival knickers Message-ID: <006c01bf9e7f$b2470fe0$77c828c3@t4j2q4> Hello all, Now that I've freed my hand from the art project and table that 'somehow' got welded together... All you off to the ATP remember your festival knickers, to misquote my mum. Mine have a 'handy' pocket sewn in where I can safely keep money etc. It just means you have to trust the people you sleep with. this, my obligatry second (woohoo) has been a long time coming as recently i've been retyping an months worth of investigation i managed to delete at a the touch of a button.. sigh. Oh shoot, I mumbled, then, ahh! laddered my alice-in-wonderland checked tights in the ensuing-break-everything-in-sight fit. Sorry to whinge and all. As not to blantently abuse the list I think i should mention the late nights were made less lonesome by repeatedly playing IYFS, which I certainly was. Mike said >B&S sound sad when I'm sad and happy when I'm happy. which is true. They definatly have a knack for kissing your mood better. Mike also said fabadocious which is a word i heartily agree with. Maybe i should patent the knickers? s.p. xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From soulobscene at xxx.com Tue Apr 4 23:06:42 2000 From: soulobscene at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 18:06:42 EDT Subject: Sinister: slight return...? Message-ID: <20000404220642.44174.qmail@hotmail.com> hello listees, i'm not sure if i should consider this an 'introductory' message...over a year ago i used to be quite the active sinister member...had my list crushes and all that (they shall still remain nameless)...i've even met a bunch of you in 'rl' though i am not sure if any of you lovelies are still subscribing...well if you remember stasia, crazy new york city girl..say hello, here i am...especially you mark c. if you have stuck around...and a special 'hiya' to honey 'honeydoll' paul, lovely as ever to let me out of the nursery, thank you again! :) anyway, i think i may have explained it before, many moons ago and not that anyone remembers or cares...but i was forced to unsubscribe from sinister due to the evil, evil corporate bitch publicists with whom i was working. a year later, i broke free from big business, joined the world of the dot-com, and now that i am getting paid to chat online all day i thought i'd pay a visit to you darling biscuit-nibblers. much, much has happened in a year and i have many fascinating stories which will most likely pop up time and again in my posts to you all... ...though not right now. the only thing i have to say is, i am obsessed with napster and if it is banned from cyberspace i am going to start a polite riot. um, or something like that. and yes i saw 'high fidelity' and (belle and sebastian content, yippee!) was quite pleased that 'seymour stein' was included AND discussed (though not referred to by name). though i was a bit disappointed that another b+s song wasn't chosen. yet i suppose 'seymour stein' makes the point quite bluntly, doesn't it? other thoughts on the film: i hated laura in the book and i hated her even more on screen. why is rob so in love with this woman? she had no personality on paper and it was very disappointing to see her as even less of a woman in the 'flesh.' blecky blecky. plus the actress who played her had REALLY bad hair. i'm just sayin'. oh one more thing...to the listee coldcolours...i do not know you but for murphy's sake...there is only one big mouth, ayyyyy ohhhh! nice to see another person who appreciates the ROCK as well as the TWEE. yeah. so hello...and goodbye, for now. stasia xx * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * i put a quarter in the record machine i thought of dedicating one to jolene but it was full of records i'd never seen well the times have changed and it's so beyond me SLOAN * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Tue Apr 4 23:22:24 2000 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:22:24 PDT Subject: Sinister: Downright List Abuse: Paris Nightlife Message-ID: <20000404222224.62705.qmail@hotmail.com> honey can spank me though! hmm, what can i say about b&s? I really just wanted to say that spanky-wanky bit at the top, nothing more. some odds and ends: 1. I am wearing my soccer tuesday undies today. blue, with red trim. how sweet is that. 2. listening to glenn gould, toccatas. he hums along with his piano playing. odd. he's not exactly known for an excellent singing voice. 3. also listening to jim o'rourke's eureka. is that popular in these parts? 4. ask jesus. hmm. i work at ask jeeves. i think we tried to get ask jesus but jesus wasn't available. there's no place like home there's no place like home there's no place like home cynthia >From: "Ian McKinney" >Reply-To: "Ian McKinney" >To: sinister at missprint.org >Subject: Sinister: Downright List Abuse: Paris Nightlife >Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 21:32:43 BST > >Hello everybody, >I don't mean to gloat, but my girlfriend and I are going to Paris on a wee >holiday next week and I was wondering if any french listees or those >familiar with the city could point us in the direction of any groovy >rock/indie clubs? We don't want to be stuck in the hotel at night. > >Thank you and goodbye, >Ian. > >Mother Honey - I apologise for this downright list abuse. please don't >spank >me. >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister >+-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ >+-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Tue Apr 4 23:39:08 2000 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 00:39:08 +0200 Subject: Sinister: AnTiciPate In-Reply-To: <8WMCoIARU+14EwWR@send.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000405003908.03af5660@shell12.ba.best.com> Heidi ho, 1/2 of Jinx (ie, Chris & Wen) in Milan here... we're over in london on Thurs night for this Ear Confection/Papercuts 4 launch event (AnTiciPate at The Betsy Trottwood pub in Farringdon London...) and it'd be cool to meet some fellow Sinister folks. The Foxgloves are also playing with some wonderful DJs from Strange Fruit to boot... http://www.premonition.co.uk/atp/ what's the weather like? it's quite rainy and cold last few days here. chris ps: i haven't posted much of anything here for almost 2 yrs. :( maybe my wandering days are over - i'm hanging up my disco shoes... = http://www.skratt.net/jinx = At 09:09 PM 3/21/00 +0000, Martin Robinson wrote: >Lovely people, > >Get your dancing shoes a ready London for there's a new >shindig in town. Or something... Thursday April 6th, the >day before some of us set out for Camber. Mark that date >in your little fluffy diaries carefully, there will be a >pre-ATP do, going by the moniker of AnTiciPate, at the >Betsey Trottwood in good old London town, Great Britain. >There will be a couple of bands, who will be starring on >the new CD from the out oh so very soon Papercuts issue, >and top DJ-ing skillz playing all your favourite tunes >from the hours of say 7.30 pm till about 12 for just 3 >English pounds. What a cracking bargain I hear you say. >And you'd be right... If you need any info mail me or my >more coherent conspirator Drunken Matt >(the_fear66 at hotmail.com) and we'll tell you something >nice... Otherwise just be there or there's big >trouble. > >Te ra, > >Martin > >ear confection recordings >(http://www.send.demon.co.uk) >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexburton36 at xxx.com Wed Apr 5 02:16:56 2000 From: alexburton36 at xxx.com (Alex Burton) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 02:16:56 BST Subject: Sinister: Depressing music Message-ID: <20000405011656.56013.qmail@hotmail.com> Okay folks, it's late and I'm bored and hungry. And I'm addcited to Sinister. I'm trying to get through my huge backlog of messages whilst simultaneously writing a tear-inducingly dull essay about the English. A couple of questions: 1) Is the Sinister list officially full of 'twee fieldmice bastards' as someone described it? 2) Is there anything wrong with a bit of tweeness occasionally? 3) Is Isobel Campbell God? 4) Will I ever find meaning to life and other profound philosophical questions? But more importantly, I've been wondering. A friend of mine doesn't like depressing music because he says that there is no talent in inducing teenage angst - we do it well enough on our own thank you very much. He likes to listen to uplifting music when depressed. So I thought I'd use that old chestnut of a letter to a newspaper editor - usually The Mail or Torygraph - where they open by asking 'Am I alone?' Thus forcing other readers to respond and let them know that there is indeed life out there... somewhere... Am I alone in preferring to listen to melancholic music when depressed? I find it comforting that other people understand me, have worse problems than me, have experienced the same things as me.. I went throuh a very miserable period of listening to nothing but Joy Division (THE most depressing band ever.. both lyrically and musically) The Smiths (THE best band ever and THE best frontman) and occasionally Arab Strap and B+S. B+S are unique in being both uplifting but also sad when you need it. Some songs are twee like Ease your feet but others like We Rule the school make me cry. What does everyone else think? Should I be listening to Steps? Mr Tragedy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From adam_dbt at xxx.com Wed Apr 5 02:21:23 2000 From: adam_dbt at xxx.com (Adam Dobrodt) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 18:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Sinister: Sinister: huh? Message-ID: <20000405012123.26252.qmail@web1608.mail.yahoo.com> Dear sinisterians, So, i've kind of been flooded with mail from sinister for about the past month and a half and only reading bits and pieces, but now i've decided to start keeping up with it. and i have been. just call me a "born-again sinisterite." Mike said: "B&S sound sad when I'm sad and happy when I'm happy." amen. speaking of amen, i believe jason mentioned the www.askjesus.org site. *holds head in hands and pleads*, What is this world coming to??? first the Moo Fang Clang names, now this. How is everyone, eh? I'm a bit sad about not being able to attend ATP. I seriously was going to fly across the ocean and attend, but i have classes (okay, bad excuse, but they are important right now). i want to see sonic youth, sfa, mogwai, and others all at the same show. it would be amazing. I opened my new PET SOUNDS SESSIONS discs and popped in the all-vocals tracks and what to my wondrous ears did i hear? THE MOST BEAUTIFUL SOUND EVER. amen, again. here is a *HUG* to all the people who have written in with their stories of traumatic weekends and such. no more fiona? :-( thats all i have to say about that. glad that shes happy, though. wow, this message is really disjointed... no connections from one thought to another, eh? "diamonds raining through honey" is beautiful, the image of hag eels in rectums, is not. i believe that owen said (if its not owen, i'm SO sorry) something about the flaming lips album not meeting his expectations, yet he also said he had just bought it the day before. it is definately an album that GROWs on you. it took me a few months to really get into it, but when i did, it was grate. anyway, (blatently bad b+s content) i am of the persuasion that the new b+s album is going to be wonderful. i don't care about song titles. morrissey had some grate song titles, only with really crappy songs (not to say that all morrissey songs are crap, just some of them; and some of those bad ones also have really good titles, which therefore finishes my reverse argument for why the b+s song titles don't matter). i think thats it for this month, hmmmm? i had more to say, but it never occurred to me, adam d. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elenita99 at xxx.com Wed Apr 5 12:41:30 2000 From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita99) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 12:41:30 CEST Subject: Sinister: I must admit it's getting better... Message-ID: <20000405104130.88554.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello Sinisterians, OK, first I'd like to thank so much all the persons who wrote nice & comforting emails/posts: I received enough hughs for my flatmate and I till at least end of the month, thanks so much. And yes, it's getting better...We cope with it. To Erica (and others London people): I'll probably be at AnTiciPate tomorrow, with French friends, so if you heard French people I'll probably be one of them...Guess which one... Totally agree with mike about B&S sounding happy or sad: that's the only band I've found out like this, that's why I love them so much. Well I guess that's all for now, that was short, you're lucky today! Love and hughs to all of you Elena ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From icklela at xxx.com Wed Apr 5 12:46:52 2000 From: icklela at xxx.com (Just Me) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 12:46:52 BST Subject: Sinister: Last minute ATP offer Message-ID: <20000405114652.52470.qmail@hotmail.com> Ok guys amazing offer� a friend of mine (not on sinister) has lost his chalet partner for ATP! She has to work he offered me the place but I can't go. Too many bloody essays! So if anyone out there wants to go and hasn't got a ticket yet mail me privately before 11:30 am Thursday. The details are: �105 for the ticket and a little petrol money Self catering chalet, bedding supplied Leaving by car from Derby area at 9 am Friday morning and returning Monday. Hugs from a disgruntled lurker ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Wed Apr 5 15:06:35 2000 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:06:35 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Billy was an Inspiration Message-ID: <20000405140635.25974.qmail@web1704.mail.yahoo.com> Dear you lot of urban modernists, I haven't posted for ages! I'd like to say it was due to business, but more likely due to bone idle laziness. Right, who on the list has a WAP phone? If so, go to http://www.wapdrive.net/starry, and look at my WAP enabled page! However, as I don't have a WAP phone myself, god knows what it looks like. My most recent hobby has been aquiring acronymns, so if I pepper this post with them, do excuse me, I'm just being a twat. Someone once sang, "What is the price of happiness? Question!" - (I think), which leads me nicely onto, hey, some questions asked by Alex. Always glad to be of use: > 1) Is the Sinister list officially full of 'twee fieldmice bastards' as > someone described it? No. Its full of yuman beanz. Field mice can't fucking post to a mailing list, what the hell? Twee actually is a word with lots of IMPORTANT history to it. Way back in the mists of time, Isobel Campbell The First of Grimsargh - the at that time ruler of everything inbred - had a WEE problem. And that was that she stank of piss. You can understand - she was a little embarassed by this. Imagine, you're ruler of a small village of inbred drooling spazzers, and you can't control your bowels. You *are* that old lady on the bus who everyone tries to avoid sitting next to. Basically, its pants! On toast! So anyway, she just happens to be mates with Genghis Khan. So one day Genghis calls her up, and says, "hey Bellend, you awreet?" And Bellend goes, "No! Some young upstart run through the village and laughed at me and said "ye smell of wee, you crap-head", and ran off!! I MAY HAVE TO DESTROY THE WORLD IN VENGEANCE!" YIKES! Thought Genghis! He had to think quickly! I think you can see what is coming here. He said, "No NO Bellend! Don't destory the world! She said you were, um, urr, TWEE! Thats it! It means liking fluffy animals and lisping a lot!!"... "Really?" "Really. Now don't kill us all, eh?" "Of course not! I'll have to add it to the dictionary, so no-one makes me distressed again." "Um...", thinks Genghis..."ok....what harm could it do?".... Alas and alack, the word "twee" was here to stay. Alex then asked: > What does everyone else think? Should I be listening to Steps? Yep. You bluddy well should. When I am depressed I don't want to listen to melancholic music which only encourages THE PAIN - if I am *that* depressed I don't want to listen to anything. I recommend listening to The Mighty STEPS as often as possible. And buying me tickets to see them when they play G.A.Y, in fact, REMINDING me when they play at G.A.Y, so I don't bluddy well MISS THEM LIKE A TWAT! Or, listen to the Human League. They piss all OVER everyones greatest hopes of this year. All over. Up your butts with coconuts. Oh dear. Best be off, essays to write, things to do you know. You'll understand when you grow up, don't worry. Then everything will become clear and you'll have a good job and you won't send me off to a retirement home. Will you? Love, Starry xo ===== "But just remember, when your teacher told you to always find a home for stray animals, she wasn't referring to your rectum." -- DNA Mag-AZINE. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Wed Apr 5 15:54:08 2000 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:54:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: De-mob Happy* Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69010D1500@park_ex> *as opposed to "D-Mob happy" which would involve running around pretending to be Norwich's favourite daughter, Cathy Dennis, and/or shouting "we call it aciiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid" !Y!A!Y! a week off work for debauchery (and recovery) is but 2 and a bit hours away. Before I go *any* further I must say HAG EELS, and give the proper respect to Mr Kado for inspired silliness. *steve imagines oceans full of imitation arses *steve remembers that some people don't like reading messages that look like a chatroom transcript *steve doesn't care cos he luuuuuuuuuurrrrvves #sinister and thinks you should all come and play I went to see the remenants of my old band play last nite. They've gone RAAAAWWWK, and it was a bit scary (in a kind of late 80s/rachel stamp/cult kind of way). However, I didn't follow my plan to throw big heavy things at them. Following that we went to a local acoustic nite and *i sang* for the first time in AAAGGGES and it was GRATE (to sing anyway, I'm not necessarily saying my performance was). Apparently there's going to be "lo-fi karaoke" at Camber this weekend, just try to keep me off it. Humourous Moment #1: One of my minions was talking to someone on the phone yesterday and took their name and they were called Isobel Murdoch which made me chortle and made my minions look at me strangely Humourous Moment #2 I was staying at a friend's house on Saturday and one of their flatmates a) likes B&S and b) is in a band and c) had left some (bad sixth form poetry) lyrics lying around. I casually glanced at them and realised that one could quite easily fit the words to the tune of Fox in the Snow, but it was "girl on the train , i'll never see you again, why didn't i ask your name etc". This also made me chortle (after i'd finished cringing) and as i had no one to share it with at the time i thought i'd share now :) Humourous Moment #3 Oh, come on, it's only three weeks since i wrote last. What kind of exciting fun filled life do you think I have ;) Right, who fancies some air hockey in mini-vegas then? xoxo CarsmileSteve, GRATEly looking forward to the weekend ahead (with apologies to those of you who aren't coming) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Tigerxdare at xxx.com Wed Apr 5 16:23:06 2000 From: Tigerxdare at xxx.com (Tigerxdare at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:23:06 EDT Subject: Sinister: i'm missing you like candy Message-ID: <7a.38c4ef0.261cb45a@aol.com> hello everyone, its been awhile since i wrote to you all. so sorry about that. i just havent had the time. but i have some free time now, and a whole day off from old navy clothing hell store. i got the new travis cd. it is fabulous. now i understand why walkn steve has been going on and on about them. they are truly amazing. i actually saw them two week ago on 120 minutes. they had a really long interview with them that spanned about a half hour, plus they showed their video. but what is up with that werid mini-mohawk hair style in the video? oh my that is some scary stuff. ive been listening to b&s alot lately, its like when you dont listen to one of the cds for awhile, and then you start listening to it again, its as if you got a brand new cd. so i was talking to jason and he says that he has never seen the movie better off dead, and in fact he has never even heard of it, or say anthing. how is this possible? dont you uk people get good american movies over there? maybe he is just an isolated case, i certainly hope all of you are not as deprived as he is. so has everyone seen high fidelity yet or what? it was fab (yet another example of my obbsession with john cusack). and whoever it was who played dick in the movie,. oh my gosh, he was so adorable. what i need is a sweet shy llittle boy that that. anyway i must run. bye all. xoxo, lauren* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Wed Apr 5 16:51:38 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (The Fragrant World Of Princess Honey) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:51:38 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: UK listeners: TOMORROW: "It's Illegal Man" on Radio One Message-ID: Yes I know, I know, I'm a bit of an absentee list mother at the moment, but I'm still toddling along in the background keeping you all "well-oiled" so to speak. Or greased up. Anyway, more later, but for now just to prove that as well as bringing you the LP title and songs before MI6 had heard about them, Sinister now brings you another world-wide exclusive unless-you've-already-heard from Katrina at B&S HQ: tomorrow night (Thursday) on the Evening Session on Radio 1 they're going to be playing the single "Legal Man". She says probably between 8-10 on the regional bit but *in all regions* so you folks at Chipping Sodbury won't miss out. Isn't Legal Man the one with the sitar? Brrrrring tinkle tinkle. Oh and the grapevine tells me that "dickslap" was yet another scribbling from a gents loo. Well, presumably gents. Connection reset by peer, Honey x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sillas_luap at xxx.com Wed Apr 5 17:17:12 2000 From: sillas_luap at xxx.com (paul 'spoonbearder' sallis) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 09:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: All Tomorrows Parties - South coast ticket give-away (well, almost) Message-ID: <20000405161712.17130.qmail@web305.mail.yahoo.com> Sorry for this abuse folks but it does kinda' have a Belle & Sebastian connection - Well it does if you screw your eyes up into tight little balls + think real hard until you can see a year into the past to the magic that was the 1st Bowlie Weekender. Thanks to Southampton Universities evil policy of stopping all chemistry students from having seaside Indie festival fun by bringing forward project meetings + deadlines we are now a body short for our chalet - I was going to say "human body short" but hey he's a chemist, so of course he's not human! ;) - So, if you can answer a big 'YES' to all the following questions please get in touch as soon as: 1. do you have your own body? (sorry no rentals, our insurance doesn't cover it) 2. do you like music? 3. do you have to lie horribly when a medical practitioner asks you how many units of alcohol you abide in a week to avoid gasps of horror? 4. do you live in/around Southampton or at a handy place between Southampton & Camber sands? 5. do you like going on holiday? 6. do you get on with other people without feeling the need to lash or majority spak out in any way? 7. do you like drinking Um Bungo & eating Ambrosia Creamed Rice? 8. do you have about �100 burning a hole in your pocket at the moment? Oh dear, I think I just lost a shedload of you with question 8. - you can try haggling if you want but we'll probably just laugh in your general direction, or flick bogeys at you, or something even meaner than that!!! If anyone's still interested (bluddy weirdo's) this should scare you off for good: Who's going: me (paul), andy#1 + andy#2. How: driving from Southampton. when: Friday morning (hangovers allowing). Who to contact: I have limited Internet access so you're best bet is to drop a note to andy#1 on: - "aextance at tripos.com" (work) - "andye at happychopper.co.uk" (home) (better send to both, just to be sure) Hope to see some of you kids at the weekend. Hell, I might even try and talk to some of you this year!!! (the horror, the horror!) hugs + raspberry slushpuppies (especially to everyone who couldn't come to ATP - be brave little ones and remember All Tomorrows Parties invariably leads to Heroin, so you're probably better off where you are), paul. "We are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From splag at xxx.net Wed Apr 5 18:17:43 2000 From: splag at xxx.net (Scott Plagenhoef) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 11:17:43 -0600 Subject: Sinister: UK listeners: TOMORROW: "It's Illegal Man" on Radio One Message-ID: <200004051619.RAA07398@missprint.org> tomorrow night (Thursday) on the Evening Session on Radio 1 they're > going to be playing the single "Legal Man". She says probably between > 8-10 on the regional bit but *in all regions* so you folks at Chipping > Sodbury won't miss out. Um, non-UK listeners, don't forget that if you have the means (a computer, a sound card) you can check out the propable majesty that is the new single on the Radio 1 webcast. Try here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/inside_r1/index.shtml and there is a wee button to press that says, "listen." You can download a Real Audio Player and tune in! Come early for the afternoon show and maybe you'll get to hear the new Steps or the "Thong Song." bye. scott. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk Wed Apr 5 18:44:20 2000 From: amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk (amy_jackson0) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 18:44:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the sun is so warm when you're happy........ Message-ID: <000701bf9f26$99c71d00$4fd7b0c2@tinypc> hello my dear sinister friends..... well, i am now a very happy bunny. no more depressing posts for me, uh-uh, i am gonna be a little ray of sunshine amongst you all!! don't ask me how thin change occured, i didn't go to school today so i spent most of today in my bed thinking, and i have decided that life is too short to worry about whether certain people like me or whether i'll do well in exams or anything, because they aren't so important, in the big picture....i've got lots of friends not in school who think i am lovely, i think i'm quite intelligent, but not a genius or anything, but i know enough about what i feel is important, and that is good enough for me!! i can't wait to hear legal man tomorrow night, i think it's gonna be good........lets just hope that if it does have sitar in it, it's not a massive overload....less is more after all..... ooh, i am full of the joys of spring!!!!! well, on that rather excitable and happy note, i'll be off, i'm gonna dancing among the clouds and sing on top of a hill at the top of my voice...... love and lollipops, littlebelleXXX :o) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Wed Apr 5 18:52:39 2000 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:52:39 EDT Subject: Sinister: i'm missing you like candy Message-ID: <2.229bd7f.261cd767@aol.com> Lauren said... << i got the new travis cd. it is fabulous. now i understand why walkn steve has been going on and on about them. >> I think that was another one of Sinister's many Steves because, while I like Travis, I don't have the album. I really wish I had said that, but I didn't. Feel free to attribute any other witty/brilliant things to me and I'll be alot less honest...really good to see Lauren's name back in the in-box. I heard Stevie Jackson is to be on a forthcoming compilation entitled "Caroline Now! A Tribute to Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys." No mention of what song he's doing, but the concept behind the album is that the bands are to choose more esoteric and lesser-known songs. Given that the Beach Boys released 20 odd albums and had only a dozen or so Top 20 songs, that leaves alot of fucking tunes to choose from. I'm predicting he'll do something mid-60s, as opposed to the later drivel that Mike Love wrote...maybe something off "Beach Boys Today!" I'm not sure when it comes out and I haven't seen a complete list of the bands that will be on it, but it should be pretty ace. I got my Flaming Lips/Looper ticket for the Baltimore show, so I'm pretty stoked. Its at a much smaller venue than the last time I saw Looper so I'm wondering how they'll pull off the visual aids and such. Are they still doing that for this tour? Having a fluid build-up in your knee really sucks...FYI Orville Redenbacher "If you ever drop your keys in molten lava...forget it man, they're gone" -Jack Handey *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Which Paul?" "BLAH!" visit http://callowkids.tripod.com or your crush will hate you forever +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From smiley at xxx.uk Wed Apr 5 19:02:51 2000 From: smiley at xxx.uk (Mike) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 19:02:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ooh, I feel all wanted and stuff... Message-ID: <006601bf9f29$f42c9060$0100007f@n8j4k7> Hullo, Argh! Can't. Cope. With. People. Agreeing. With. Me. In. Such. Large. Numbers. NURSE!! Right, that's better. Some thoughts: Exams are a very bad thing, as is Computing coursework. You're all very naughty for making me write this when I should be revising or programming or something. My job is worse than exams. Since starting I have phoned up over 10,000 people (early calculations suggested 60,000, but I was being thick) and said the same thing to all of them. Unless they were nasty, in which case I would have hung up and muttered fck ff. I alleiviate boredom by playing computer Solitaire and abusing the database to look up the addresses and phone numbers of famous people (did you know there are 26 Isobel Campbells in Glasgow?). Do Internet music peeps deliberately not send me my CDs for months? As promised this post is irrelevant and rather short too.. Love, Mike smiley at rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk http://www.rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nik_ovenden at xxx.com Wed Apr 5 21:53:08 2000 From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: super-huge list abuse, cos i don't even have tickets to atp!!!!!!! SELL ME SOME!!! Message-ID: <20000405205308.12031.qmail@web2101.mail.yahoo.com> HELP ME!!!! It's now 1.5 days till the all tomorrow's and i still dont have tickets. To all you people out there with half filled chalets, i'm your man!!! Any number from 3-6 places (maybe 2, but i would feel a tinge guilty) i can fill, i am desperate!!! �110 per ticket will be paid in full upon arrival at the site (as long as we get the forms + tickets) I am desperate! You will find this on all the message boards around - if it applies to you, PLEASE don't ignore it! Email me up until 10am thursday morning, after that CALL ME till 1.30pm that day on (01934) 844695. PLEASE help, you'd make my (and up to 5 others) lives. Thanks again, Nik Ovenden PS our bands range from super furries --alfie - delgados - mogwai - arab strap. Think about it. 50 lagers to the person who fills our boots too. PPS i bet i get nurseried for this - sorry honey!! xxx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nik_ovenden at xxx.com Wed Apr 5 21:52:48 2000 From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: super-huge list abuse, cos i don't even have tickets to atp!!!!!!! Message-ID: <20000405205248.5772.qmail@web2106.mail.yahoo.com> HELP ME!!!! It's now 1.5 days till the all tomorrow's and i still dont have tickets. To all you people out there with half filled chalets, i'm your man!!! Any number from 3-6 places (maybe 2, but i would feel a tinge guilty) i can fill, i am desperate!!! �110 per ticket will be paid in full upon arrival at the site (as long as we get the forms + tickets) I am desperate! You will find this on all the message boards around - if it applies to you, PLEASE don't ignore it! Email me up until 10am thursday morning, after that CALL ME till 1.30pm that day on (01934) 844695. PLEASE help, you'd make my (and up to 5 others) lives. Thanks again, Nik Ovenden PS our bands range from super furries --alfie - delgados - mogwai - arab strap. Think about it. 50 lagers to the person who fills our boots too. PPS i bet i get nurseried for this - sorry honey!! xxx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jcmoya at xxx.net Thu Apr 6 05:43:52 2000 From: jcmoya at xxx.net (Juan Carlos Moya) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 00:43:52 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. Message-ID: <38EC1608.C9EA1E@bellsouth.net> Basically, I'm not cool enough. Actually, I'm too cool. No one in this town knows how cool I really am. That is of course with the exeption of my girlfriend, (who thinks I'm very cool), a few friends, (who have all gotten together and agreed that I'm cool), and my parents (who made me cool). But generally speaking, I'm not that cool. Overall, this is not such a bad thing. You see, I live in Miami, Florida. A very, very uncool place. (I mean, we have two seasons here, hot and hotter. and the music scene reflects this. It sucks, there's virtually no variety and a general lack of bands.) However, this town just got a little cooler. Allright, I'll cut to the chase without using the word "cool" again, dig? There is now a place where those of us in Miami who don't really care about dance music can go. It's Sat. nights at a bar called Picadilly, in the fashion design district, (a relatively old area where nothing really happens at night and all they do is sell overpriced antiques during the day...), and the night is called "life." At the door they take your five bucks and they ask you, "how did you hear about us?" You say word of mouth, or internet, or whatever and then you get stamped you go inside and you dance like mad to Belle and Sebastian. Yep, I said Belle and Sebastian. I had to request it, but it was played. "Is it Wicked Not to Care?" and "Sleep the Clock Around." That's two songs in a town that two years ago only had two people in it who knew who B&S were. A club outside of the UK or New England that plays B&S. I'm overjoyed. It's too bad that I can't go back for another couple of weeks, but if it's still there, I'll be there too. Speaking of "being there," my girlfriend and I will be in Toronto from the 20th of April until the 29th or so. Since the Toronto listees are notorious for the unholy amounts of fun that they have, I was wondering if such a meet up can occur sometime during that week. Perhaps, there's a Sini-bear who needs a new home? We're willing to adopt one, but only after the libation has flowed freely from tap to glass. Really. That's enough for now. Toodles, Juan Carlos +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_leak at xxx.uk Thu Apr 6 08:33:10 2000 From: chris_leak at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?CHRIS=20LEAK?=) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:33:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Planet NAY Message-ID: <20000406073310.8095.qmail@web1304.mail.yahoo.com> Mornen Went to see God Speed & Sigur Ros last night, both really really good, especially Sigur Ros (damn that angelic voiced handsome Icelander, SPIT, SPIT). As for God Speed, PHEW! My only gripe, and it's a big 'un,is that Planet K is without doubt the worst venue I have ever been to see a band at. From the attitude of the staff on the door, the pre-printed "Due to a technical fault the draft pumps are not in use" - i.e. Stump up for a bottle sucker!, the fact that I was charged £10.20 for two bottles of Stella and a diet coke. All this combined with the floor sloping back down from the stage, a narrowness that would have prevented Twiggy from getting anywhere the front and I'm sure they had the heating on full wack! Suffice to say, I would rather have spent a bit more and travelled to a another date on the tour. Sorry about moan, but if it's any consolation I feel much better now. Back to lurking........ Before I go, am I the only one who didn't think the book "High Fidelity" was much cop? (BARRAGE OF YESS!) It's a few years since I read it but I don't remember it that fondly. Everyone I've lent the book to since has loved it. To me it just seems such a diluted and tame idea of "laddism" that Nick Hornby aspires to. It's responsible for everyone from Chris Evans to Zoe Ball anally "Top Fiving" everything. The big plot development, toward the end of the book (which I won't reveal for those who have yet to read it), which supposedly explains away the characters lack of ability to commit is soooo LAME! It is built up to arrive as a live changing revelation whereas it arrives with a dull thud. I could go on but I fear I may alienate myself even more than I already have. Bless Leaky ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From julesmarkham at xxx.net Thu Apr 6 09:53:46 2000 From: julesmarkham at xxx.net (julesmarkham) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:53:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: a black fox fable Message-ID: <001601bf9fa9$18edf2c0$b81cac3e@tonygeorge> hola chucks, well the sky is blue and I'm feeling a little wistful so... The black fox slumped down at jubilee's feet and sighed heavily. Jubilee glanced down from her book, then carried on reading. The fox sighed again, tucking her pointed snout between her front paws. When jubilee still made no response, the fox rolled over onto her back and groaned loudly, her spiky limbs akimbo. -Too much curry, fox? Jubilee enquired, still engrossed in her book. The fox scowled and rolled onto her stomach. ~No! I'm in the pit of despair! -Sounds more like indigestion. The fox butted her leg gently. Jubilee put down her book and looked at the wistful creature at her feet. -Dear fox, what troubles you? She asked in her most respectful voice. The fox hung down her head in sorrow. ~As you know, I have no shortage of friends, The fox began. -Your generosity is legendary, Jubilee added quietly, knowing what she said was true. It was also true that the fox had no shame, and would leap on any stranger just because she liked their hair, or shirt, or was just feeling bored. She would see someone, and decide that she liked them, and they had little choice in the matter. ~I have these friends and I make new ones every day... So where do they all go? Jubilee frowned and shook her head. -I don't follow you, fox? The black fox climbed up onto her lap and sat down, regarding her with slanted red eyes. ~They never seem to stay around long. I mean, look at scanner, I never see him anymore, or the goose, or otesse, I hardly ever see the kestrel or the mouse... Jubilee stroked the fox's long ears gently. -well scanner is doing his own thing now, like the kestrel and otesse. Things move on. ~Then why do I get left behind? The fox pressed her face into jubilee's stomach. -Fox, you find lost people. You try to fix them like they're broken toys. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't but... They get found, and they move on. And when they're sad or lonely they think of you, and feel better for it, for having known you... But they're only yours when they're lost. The fox said nothing for a long time. ~So why do you stay? Jubilee shrugged and smiled.She gave the fox a cuddle. -I'm not so much lost as mislaid. I'm down the back of the sofa of life. The fox closed her eyes sleepily. ~Mnn, life isn't a sofa, it's more of a lampshade...umbrella... central hub with spokes and fabric.. a framework. The fox yawned and curled up into a ball on Jubilee's lap. -You're metaphor for life is a brolly? ~No... Life is a duck egg tree, a vegetable lamb... Jubilee looked down at the fox, who was almost asleep. -You mean unfathomable? She offered. ~Improbably, highly unlikely...theoretically speaking we're not even here... Jubilee frowned to herself. -But we are here, fox. Fox? The black fox was snoring softly. Jubilee poked her in the belly. She sat up suddenly. ~Hmmmpf? -Fox? The fox shook her narrow head and yawned. ~What was the question again? hope you enjoyed, jules x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Thu Apr 6 16:31:45 2000 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:31:45 EDT Subject: Sinister: Twins frighten me. Message-ID: <64.1902c94.261e07e1@aol.com> Sinister-lovelies: This is my official first post. I've jumped the gun a few times, trying to post and seeing if maybe it might happen, you know, slip through the system somehow--but.. no such luck. I'm a twenty year old college student (although I don't feel like one. I feel like a garden snail. Involuntary muscle, etc. etc.) and much to my disappointment I am not suffering from chronic fatigue syndrome so I no longer have an excuse to sit on my ass all day working on this same short-story that is haunting me. I had bad dreams about it last night. Why is it so important? It isn't. That's the problem. I love the title of the new B&S album. Although, for some reason, twins frighten me to death. It's nothing personal.. I wasn't, like, attacked by viscious twins wielding shovels in my youth or anything--just the concept of two beings springing from one egg gives me the heebie-jeebies. Anyway, I'm probably making you twins out there fuming with anger. Forgive me? I live in a sickeningly small town in Colorado, USA. I want the new Hefner album but I will have to drive fifty miles this weekend to purchase it. Is it worth it? Hmm. Here's the second most interesting thing I've heard as of late: After Sylvia Plath died, Ted Hughes immediately remarried. Two years later, his new wife killed herself the exact same way Sylvia did (Oven, head, etc. etc.) Creepy. Anyway. Write me e-mail. Inanimately Yours, Mandee L. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janne.lardot at radiolinja.fi Thu Apr 6 18:00:00 2000 From: janne.lardot at radiolinja.fi (Lardot Janne RL) Date: 6 Apr 2000 19:00:00 +0200 Subject: Sinister: From nursery with angst... Message-ID: hello sinister. how are you? finally... a voice. i've been dying to tell you all something. last week i fell in love. and in a silly and roundabout way b&s had a part to play in it. i won't bore you with the details though... you can read them when my diaries are published. some day. anyway. i love reading your posts, and wish i'd joined ages ago... hmm, i hate writing e-mail at work. it's just too difficult to concentrate on anything, especially work. it's warm and lovely outside, and i'm shackled to my stupid desk and my evil computer. i should be outside, running against the wind, carefree and innocent. well, not that innocent actually. still... maybe i should quit my job, and start a career as a professional student or something. i hate working in an office. i don't mind the monotonous work, or the clueless management or the systematic stifling of all creativity, but... what really pisses me off are the people i have to endure every day. with over 60 people in the same department, you're bound to get tired with the same faces, and the same office gossip, and the same voices, every-single-day. oh well. it's not always that bad, though. like the evenings... they're nice. like when just about everyone else has gone home or whereever, and it's just me and my stereo, and the sinister list here... so. i guess i should stop whining, and introduce myself. i'm Janne. that's it. oh, and i'm from finland, surely the un-twee-est place in the universe... i toyed with the idea of flying over to UK to catch the ATP, and meet a few mates and relatives, but the evil corporation i slave for wouldn't give me even a few days off... just as well, i guess, 'cos the flights and stuff would have cost a fortune anyway... and i've blown most of my cash on books and cd:s, and vodka and red bull... just bought the all seeing i and mercury rev albums this morning, along with a few books, and so i'm well and truly strapped 'til next payday... oh yeah, and if someone's looking for something fantastic to read and/or hear, you should check out John Fowles's "The Magus" and any music by Black Box Recorder and Booth And The Bad Angel. thats my 15 mins in the sinister limelight, i guess. one last thing though, Jules, love your black fox fables, and look forward to reading more of them.. hugs and kisses to everyone, - j a n n e x x - +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Thu Apr 6 17:04:40 2000 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:04:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Deep Now In The Fryer Message-ID: <006201bf9fe1$d1bc4da0$71073c3e@default> Hello Sinister Massive. Well, someone is very guilty of "Making Jason's Day" by giving him a list crush. Come on now, don't be shy, who are you? Jason is talking about himself in the third person because he's having a Julius Caesar power trip Okay, on to business. In case I miss it, I hope that a fair few of you are taping Legal Man tonight. Coo, B+S content, fancy that Seriously though, I'm really interested to hear what the nu-twee sound is :) Sitars are not required. My stint as a witness in a murder trial is now over, and I must admit that it's been a really stressful experience. The jury decides tomorrow. I'm all edgy until I know what the verdict is I've experienced a hell of a lot in my short 18-odd years of life. It's not enough though, I still need love, kisses and sex, doesn't everyone? I got my stereo back today (it was away getting repaired) and I was monumentally pleased about it :) I missed the little guy. Now I can play my Ooberman MD again (thanks Sweetie). German History is the most boring subject ever. <--- Jason's expert opinion. Only two people have taken up on my offer for some councilling. Come on, folks, you're all neurotic, speak to me Nick Hornby books/films/other are rubbish, sorry. --Jason Andreas Silent whispers in my head, Never heard but always said. ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dchard at xxx.ca Thu Apr 6 18:04:20 2000 From: dchard at xxx.ca (ipecac spice) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:04:20 -0300 (ADT) Subject: Sinister: and i hear her say... Message-ID: does anyone else sit a stress over subject lines for a long time? i never know what to put. how to be intreguing and relevant? did anyone else recently get a sinister message from erica macarthur dated "dec. 26"? i thought that was really weird. did it take that long to go through or is the date on her e-mail wrong? hmmm... i was fascinated by mandee's little fact about sylvia plath's replacement. very weird. was there any sort of investigation into it? today i had a meeting with my prof for my mind and brain philo. class. it was great. we just sat and talked philosophy for nearly an hour. i'm writing my final paper on why we can't make a computer that thinks. so we were trying to figure out what makes us believe that other people and animals are thinking. i think in the case of people it's b/c i think so i just assume that other humans think. but animals, i believe that they think b/c they act. but then does that mean i should ascribe thinking to a machine that moves around in the world? anybody have any thoughts? in case anyone else had read Turing it's all in response to his test. i love having conversations about stuff like that though. i love philosophy. i left the meeting convinced that if i ever marry it will be to a philosopher. i know lots of people think you should be happy with having philosophical conversations with your friends but i don't see why i can't have that with a boyfriend. it's not all about romance and hugs and support . i don't see why i should have to settle. anyone notice how everytime i post it turns into some sort of rant about love? i keep trying to convince myself that i will be perfectly content to live my life without ever finding true love but i don't think i believe myself. i'm bitter that i put finding love at such a high priority. school ends monday. but tomorrow i have my last class. sigh. it's exhilerating to have no plans b/c i can do anything anytime. but i'm going to miss school. my self esteem rests in getting good marks and getting work done under pressure. i don't know what's going to happen to my self confidence when school is gone. i'm now beginning to understand why people do grad school. i'm scared that i would get rejected everywhere though. i also don't know if psychology is really what i want to do with my life but if it's not i don't know what else to do. anyway. ordered the belle and sebastian boxed set from jeepster. it shuold be here in a week. yay. whoever it was who said that their music is happy or sad was oh so right. maybe that's why i love them so. b/c when i am happy there is still always saddness just hidden away for a moment and when i am sad i know that it's not everything. coming home on the bus the other day there was the rudest girl. i got on by the university and some guy got on at the same time as me. there was a group of teenagers on the bus (about 16 i think) and i sat a few rows back on the other side of the bus from them. the guy sat across from them. this girl starts loudly commenting on how ugly his clothes are and how they don't match and how people in halifax don't know how to dress and just wear any old thing (needless to say she was quite the bootyhoe). then, she begins to loudly talk about how bad the guy sitting directly in front of her smells! she was saying how it was going to make her puke and how "somebody needs a bar of soap"! i couldn't believe it. obviously if i could her her the people she was talking about who were sitting right by her could too. i wanted to get up an scold her but i knew that she would just find that a funny story to tell people and it wouldn't make any difference in her attitude. then she jokes about tripping an old man. finally, i guess someone overweight got on the bud b/c she started saying how "somebody needs to go to the gym"! i thought it was terrible. and none of her friends stood up for the poor people she was mocking. i just told myself that someday it would come back to her b/c she was creating bad karma. anyway. i just found that really sad that someone would be so blatantly disrespectful. -di he who hates is to be pitied, but he who loves is to be pitied more -german proverb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Thu Apr 6 19:45:43 2000 From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: everything it was it is, everything it is it was... Message-ID: <20000406184543.5664.qmail@web114.yahoomail.com> sinisteels, last night, by some stroke of luck i watched "the band who would be king", the documentary about Half Japanese. I know everyone's talking about high fidelity, which is *quite* a different film from this one, but getting down to music biz and pop snobbery and where ideas of good & bad art come from and all that, this is the movie to see. it's inspiring, genuinely inspiring, for music, for writing, for, well, life. but if you're familiar with Half Japanese, then you probably know all this. If you're not, then rent this movie and/or go out and buy their records ("charmed life" definitely). genius, honestly. it's different from belle and sebastian, yet there's obviously some kind of connection there, and it makes me feel just as good. you know, the way brilliant things do when they're just naturally brilliant. i'm just a little overwhelmed, i mean, i've been thinking about the kinds of things the film makes you think about - like when you're angry/disappointed that certain things exist and get too much credit and then you realize that you're just so glad other things exist you realize that it's better to be happy about these good things existing than waste your time being angsty about things like top 40 radio. putting this thinking into practice is the thing though, requires a lot of undoing of thoughts in some cases (i.e. mine), but once it happens... well, it's a lovely level of freedom, i mean, i can feel it even though i'm not quite there yet. mm. so, yeah... love songs and monster songs, Robyn ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Thu Apr 6 21:40:25 2000 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 20:40:25 GMT Subject: Sinister: Let the floodgates burst open..... Message-ID: <20000406204026.34553.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello y'all. I may be the first person to comment on the new song, and whether I am or not doesn't really concern me (although it would be nice to have that title, given my rather anal disposition). My initial reaction was "My, what a departure!". It's hardly TSTIAI or TBWTAS is it? It's almost like a dance record. That's an ALMOST before everybody tells me to be quiet. I quite like it, though I have a feeling it may alienate some hardcore fans who like their B&S with a bit of Struan singing liltingly over the top. Our dear Isobel (I assume it is Isobel) sounds really quite punk on it too. Which is nice. According to Steve Lurpack, it's a bit of a grower, which is good. I was expecting something TOTALLY different, and if this is any indication of what FYHCYWLAP is going to be like, then I think we have a lot of anticipating to do between now and June 5th. Anyway, sorry to waste everybody's time, I just had to get my two penneth in, before the floodgates opened. I hope everybody else likes it, because I always enjoy it when a band takes a new direction and succeed (see Blur, Beth Orton etc). Anyway, I'll leave you to get back to whatever you were doing before I rudely interupted you... Love, SamW.x ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris.jones at xxx.uk Thu Apr 6 21:28:27 2000 From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2000 21:28:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Legal Man Message-ID: <200004062058.VAA23639@smtp.saqnet.co.uk> Hmmmmm. Not sure a like it that much, although it will grow. I think it's a sort of 60's gangster song. It's also a bit repetitive, but Steve Lamacq reckons it's a grower, so I'll take his word for it! Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From scorn-pie at xxx.uk Thu Apr 6 23:52:53 2000 From: scorn-pie at xxx.uk (Victoria Adam) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:52:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: test tube organs and some legal men Message-ID: <004f01bfa01b$2be8c720$50c828c3@t4j2q4> Legal man - just me or did that sound like kitch s.f.a.? atlthough s.f.a. don't have such a beautiful high range. Maybe it was because my radio would only tune to session in wales. My what a nice organ sounding bit that was, and steve says it's a good grower. (Trying to figure the logic of that sentence now, I'm not trying to suggest B&S grow spare body parts in their days off. Although I could see how that would be useful. Any brains going on the cheap Isobel, I think I need one....) s.p. XXX +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gjanderson at xxx.co Sun Apr 2 22:47:14 2000 From: gjanderson at xxx.co (GRAEME JOHN ANDERSON) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 17:47:14 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Goodbye Message-ID: <005d01bf9ced$046d08e0$2ae6e2d8@cartagena.cetcol.net.co> It is with sadness (and due to not having enough time in my day to do everything), that I've decided to make the sacrifice and unsubscribe from the list for some time. I've certainly not been the most active of posters in my 6th months here in Sinisterville, but I've read your posts with interests, warmed to those who were fresh out of the nursery and those who have been around for years. I've enjoyed the time spent but sadly 'All good things never last', so farewell and good luck to you all. Enjoy the new album and the concerts/ clubs. I'll still be buying their material as long as I'm enjoying it, so they aren't losing a fan (yet!!) Bye for now Graeme (If anyone wishes to send me a private email - occasionally - about happenings etc, then please feel welcome. Who knows, you may even get a reply!!) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From inscca at xxx.au Fri Apr 7 00:20:00 2000 From: inscca at xxx.au (inscca at xxx.au) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 09:20:00 +1000 Subject: Sinister: why do I have sleepy eyes? Message-ID: <200004062320.JAA23247@adm1.qld.schools.net.au> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From michael at xxx.net Fri Apr 7 00:37:34 2000 From: michael at xxx.net (Michael Cronshaw) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 00:37:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Eurotrash! Message-ID: <000d01bfa021$1ccc9e00$02000003@oemcomputer> Hello everybody peeps Anyone else think that Legal Man sounds like the theme to Eurotrash? It's grate though, B&S never fail to disappoint, although it's like nothing else they've done. They couldn't just keep doing the old stuff, we'd just end up with another Modern Rock Song. And Richard actually gets to do something interesting, which he must be chuffed about. Nuff B&S content. In fact, nuff content. Mikey.x --------------------------------------------------------------- He doesn't love you, I'm the one who loves you You don't love me, he's the one you love --------------------------------------------------------------- Bob tells it like it is, Canada by Field Mice +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From browne at xxx.ie Fri Apr 7 01:05:55 2000 From: browne at xxx.ie (Caroline Mary Browne) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 01:05:55 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: good neighbours become good friends Message-ID: Hello everybody, so......... My life hasn't deviated much from boredom this week in fact it has started up a big romance with the lovely boredom. After wooing it for a while they now walk hand in hand gazing lovingly into eachothers eyes vowing never to separate. Well I suppose that's just the way it is when your final exams are in 3 and a half weeks and you have a 5000 word essay and a class presentation to do in the meantime. Tell us more says an excited list... well alright then. I did get to go out to a party on Saturday night which was nice. There was young people there who liked music and laughter. It was, indeed, all fun and games until, in a silly irrational move I kissed a boy who lives oh so close to where I do who I have known for years and years. When you know a person for that amount of time you also tend to know such things as his parents' names and his dog's name and where he went to school etc. This has now manifested in much embarrassment and awkwardness and swift walking past his house on my way down the road every day. It has also resulted mockery and jeers from a cruel group of friends who have been calling me such names as `incestuous bitch' although I feel this is a slight misinterpretation of the situation myself. I had to post a letter the other day in the letter box which is placed strategically opposite his house. As fate (of my type) would have it he was walking towards me on the other side of the road. In a very responsible and mature fashion, after throwing the letter in the letter box I started briskly walking followed by sprint-like running in the opposite direction. this was all within comfortable viewing distance of the boy. oh dear Im very jealous of those of you going to all tomorrows parties and other such fun things. Unfortunately I am confined to the impoverished socialising environment that is Dublin. I got the photographs of my 21st birthday. I look like a sickly girl who has never had a suntan in her life. There is lots of fake smiling and red eyes. I didnt hear the new single because I only heard about it today hooray. Well I think thats quite enough said on my part. Bye Bye List. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MBP99KLC at xxx.uk Fri Apr 7 01:45:41 2000 From: MBP99KLC at xxx.uk (Katy) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 01:45:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: How to be nice References: <200004051453.PAA24144@missprint.org> Message-ID: <00cf01bfa02a$b54dab20$23d4a78f@ratsmbp99klc> Hello everyone. Lately I've been thinking about how out of all the things people try and be, like funny and interesting and stuff, one of the best things a person can be is nice, which is probably pretty obvious. But anyway I'm going to give you all a little example of how to be nice. Okay. Let's say you're a boy and you meet a girl that you like. Or you could be a girl who meets a boy you like, in which case reverse the sexes in this story. Right, so let's say you meet a girl you like, and she doesn't want to go out with you. But you go and talk to her whenever you see her and you get to be friends. Oh, and also let's say there's this other girl who's in a drama group with you, who fancies you and who is extremely snooty towards the girl you like. And you complain to the girl you like that it's awkward because although you're friends with the other girl, you don't like her "in that way". And also let's imagine that this other girl can't act for toffee. Okay, so anyway, let's say this goes on for about a year, and you and the first girl become pretty good friends. And then let's imagine that one day somehow you end up kissing, and you ask her out on, well, a date really, and this time she says okay, and so finally you're seeing each other for a few weeks. But then let's imagine that you decide you don't want to see the girl anymore, which is fair enough, you know, these things happen. So you act funny the next time you see her, in the hope that she'll get the message, and then you go round to explain, except that you can't manage to say anything except "I think we should - er - well we should..." exactly like Hugh Grant, until she asks "You think we should just be friends?" and you go "Yeah". And let's imagine that the girl tells you not to worry and says that's fine, and doesn't do anything awkward like ask why because she knows there's usually no "why" or if there is it'll be something she doesn't want to hear. And suppose you then tell her that you really hope you do stay friends, and that you'll phone her. Well, just supposing this all this happens, but that you don't actually get round to phoning the girl at all and the next time you see her is six weeks later at a gig you knew she'd be going to....well, if all this happens, then don't just ignore the girl all night - say hello and ask how she is. Oh, and if snooty bad actress girl turns up with a new haircut that looks like a triangle, and if you must snog her, then that's okay and everything, but try not to do it right in front of the original girl. That would be the nice thing to do, anyway. It's not that the first girl will be all that upset, you understand, as she probably wasn't so bothered about the whole thing anyway and she's probably far too sensible to let a silly boy get her down. It's just that she'll be slightly saddened by the self-centredness of human nature. Oh, and she'll think you're a wanker. Of course any characters in this little example are purely fictional. It's okay anyway, the girl really isn't bothered, in fact she's feeling quite smug about rising above the whole thing. I actually am completely fine, I just felt like telling the story. I did say once before that it wasn't nice to be bitchy, and this is true, but then all is equal in love and war as they say, not that either of these come into this post. Anyway what I'm more excited by is that I've just made a really good compilation tape of Pavement, who are my other favourite band alongside Belle & Sebastian. I apologise if a Pavement mix tape sounds like sacrilege to some people, but if there's anyone who hasn't heard this wonderful band and would like to then just ask me for a copy. I think it's healthy to put music above personal relationships. katy c x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kpc98c at xxx.UK Fri Apr 7 02:27:39 2000 From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 02:27:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: regal nan - the queen mum? Message-ID: <200004070128.CAA29143@missprint.org> Just heard legal man earlier and absolutely loved it, best song I've ever heard with an electric sitar (look the fact that I've only heard one song with an e.s. has nothing to do with it), wow and it's a grower as well so I'm just gonna love it more and more! Did anyway spot the delibrate error when the guy said it's a single from the FYHCYWLAP album??? Catherine said.. >>He told me I was abusing my tie and my uniform...Today I have to see him to collect my bage....mmmm I hope he isn't there...<< What a moke! I reckon we should all e-mail the principal 1237 e-mails all demanding confiscation on their ties and school uniforms because they're abusing the belle and sebastian badge :-((( not a happy chappy here. Totally unrelated note now.. any outside chance of there being any sinister jugglers on this list?? If so anyone going to the British convention this year therefore a chance for me too see some sinisterines in person?? (I don't have a badge yet to turn upside down though). Or do I have to wait for glastonbury.. Happy two weeks before Easter and hugs and redbulls. Ken ====================================================================== Take Judy, with her bow and arrow, she's a mastermind Too frumpy for the teenage population of her time Car coat, she has a quilted jacket with a hood if it rains Big pockets for the pharmaceuticals she takes to fix her brain. - Belle & Sebastian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Isitwicked at xxx.com Fri Apr 7 03:04:55 2000 From: Isitwicked at xxx.com (Isitwicked at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:04:55 EDT Subject: Sinister: my first post Message-ID: Hello everybody. I have had a voice on the list for quite a bit now, but I felt a bit silly posting for some reason or another, I guess I get anxiety talking to large amounts of people. Or maybe I felt a bit silly having an e mail address named after a B&S song. I get silly whenever this sort of thing happens, I blame it on the time when I was a tad younger, and I went to some concert, and I was wearing the performing bands t shirt, and some guy with a greasy long mullett made fun of me, so ever since then, because he had to say something, I have a complex. I had a chance to hear the B&S song on the BBC online today, and I was very very happy with it. It's diffrent, but then again that is what I think I love the most about Belle and Sebastian, they tend to cover every musical base that I like. Okay, I guess I needed to get my first post out there. Oh yeh, Im Jayson, and Im a cancer, not that anybody really cares, but everyone asks me my sign, and I just figure now I say my name, then say my sign. Killing two birds with one stone, pretty smart eh? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Glamtart at xxx.com Fri Apr 7 08:22:03 2000 From: Glamtart at xxx.com (Glamtart at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 03:22:03 EDT Subject: Sinister: Looper in Austin! Message-ID: Just had to write a quick note... I have just gotten back to my friends' house from seeing Looper/Flaming Lips in Austin Texas... the show was absolutely brilliant. Bluddy grate, even! We were right up front and I took lots of pics which will hopefully turn out nicely... there was a reporter from the Washington Post standing next to us and took our pictures and names so hopefully I will become instantly famous when I appear screaming like a banshee in the Washington Post! Anyway I think Looper was really well-received... everyone I talked to seemed to like them a lot. After their set they stood in the VIP section for a while, up above the audience... Stuart had his arm around Karn a bit and I thought that was really sweet. At any rate, if Looper and the Flaming Lips are coming near you ... GO!!! Anyway, I head back to Arkansas tomorrow... yeehaw. Mandy, quite tired now +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toby at xxx.uk Fri Apr 7 13:50:49 2000 From: toby at xxx.uk (Toby Blake) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 13:50:49 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Planet NAY In-Reply-To: sinister-digest's message of Thu, 6 Apr 2000 18:05:10 +0100 (GMT/BST) Message-ID: <200004071250.NAA23311@rhymer.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> > Before I go, am I the only one who didn't think the book "High > Fidelity" was much cop? (BARRAGE OF YESS!) It's a few years since I > read it but I don't remember it that fondly. Everyone I've lent the > book to since has loved it. To me it just seems such a diluted and > tame idea of "laddism" that Nick Hornby aspires to. It's > responsible for everyone from Chris Evans to Zoe Ball anally "Top > Fiving" everything. Hmmm, it seems that poor old Nick Hornby gets the blame for a lot of things these days - the middle class takeover of football is, according to some, because of Fever Pitch and now the antics of pathetic media types such as Evans and Ball is the fault of High Fidelity? Come on now. I'm not sure what you mean by "laddism" but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of what I would class as laddism in any Nick Hornby book. > The big plot development, toward the end of the book (which I won't > reveal for those who have yet to read it), which supposedly explains > away the characters lack of ability to commit is soooo LAME! It is > built up to arrive as a live changing revelation whereas it arrives > with a dull thud. I could go on but I fear I may alienate myself > even more than I already have. Not with a bang, but with a whimper, eh? It too is a while since I've read High Fidelity but I always found the central character's honesty about his own personality flaws to be quite charming. My girlfriend dismisses B+S as overly-precious, yet is a huge Smiths fan. I reckon it could be to do with the singing, or perhaps an age thing. She also prefers Brix-era Fall. Can anyone explain these things? Toby +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_leak at xxx.uk Fri Apr 7 14:39:45 2000 From: chris_leak at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?CHRIS=20LEAK?=) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:39:45 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Half Blaked Message-ID: <20000407133945.7218.qmail@web1304.mail.yahoo.com> >Not with a bang, but with a whimper, eh? It too is a >while since I've >read High Fidelity but I always found the central >character's honesty >about his own personality flaws to be quite charming. But Toby, how could he be "so in touch"/"aware" of his personality flaws (apart from the big plot changing one), recognise them as flaws (whilst once again failing to recognise his BIG flaw), choose to ignore them AND remain charming?? Whilst I am aware the human psyche is a complex thing and one man's flaw is anothers strong point, I have little sympathy for someone who is so self aware as to recognise their own flaws and yet is (at best), too lazy to correct them. Then again, who am I to judge? It's a book, I thought it was weak. I have seen fever pitch, I thought it was weak. I await to be persuaded about the merits of Nick Hornby. I could go o Leaky ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JBaze at xxx.com Fri Apr 7 15:15:17 2000 From: JBaze at xxx.com (Josh Baze) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 09:15:17 -0500 Subject: Sinister: APB- Missing Person, Carolyn in California Message-ID: A mandatory "hello" to all my friends on sinister, but i'm actually looking for one of ya in particular... Carolyn, Californian, Gene fan, if you're out there please write me at this new address. I quit my old job and they took my computer before i had a chance to copy down email addresses. Anyway, write me if you can... i'm wondering if you ever got that tape. Josh +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Fri Apr 7 15:45:42 2000 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 15:45:42 BST Subject: Sinister: thought you'd got rid of me, huh? Message-ID: <56F6DB25561@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> the stoopid pooter won't let me unsubscribe, so i suppose i'll just linger around these parts for a while and i'll have to do a lot of deleting when i get back to uni, so i apologise in advance. went to the aforementioned gybe gig in manchester, agreed planet k is a rubbish place to have a gig particularly when the band are playing such bleak soundscapes, and everytime i've been they've claimed the pumps don't work so they can only sell bottles, i'm beginning to think it's a lie. but in its defence it does make a good club venue. (how to alienate everyone outside the area you live in one easy lesson) i didn't get to hear legal man last night so don't tell me what it sounds like.... la la la la i can't hear you *fiona sticks fingers in her ears people keep talking about this weekend, i didn't realise that my going home was such a big event for everyone. or is there something else happening? [joke] but, no it won't be as good as bowlie mainly because i won't be there, but i hope you all have a good time and i want full reports of all the smutty goings on when you get back. once again, i'm sure i had lots to tell you, but as ever its slipped my mind, so i'll keep it (mercifully) brief for today. love, jaffa cakes and easter eggs to you all, fiona ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ in celebration of the world's gratest (sic) soft drink and its unusual capacity to make vodka taste fantastic, join my club http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/worldofirnbru go on, make me feel wanted ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Fri Apr 7 16:09:50 2000 From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:09:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Harry Bollock had a rather unfortunate name... Message-ID: <38EE084D.31762.166E3B5@localhost> Really, the standards of the criminal classes aren't like they used to be. I was sitting on a train on Wednesday, reading a book, when two chaps came along and sat at the table next to me. After fooling the ticket inspector into thinking they'd lost their tickets, they quickly launched into talk of how they were going to go to Leicester and burgle Debenhams. Burglar #1: "The more I think about it the better it seems. There's a tunnel underneath that means they can't find us, even with heat seeking cameras." Burglar #2 (nervously) "Ooh, I don't know..." Burglar number one, a loud, arrogant chap, was apparently the leader and number two was his meek, nervous accomplice. It was terribly unoriginal. Number two would mumble an idea, then number one would practically shout his reply. Burglar #2 (conspiratorially) "But why do we have to go to Marks and Spencer?" Burglar #1 "To get a plastic bag they can't see through, stupid" I hid behind the pages of my book. They were rubbish burglars. I could hear every word they were saying. No idea at all. We were sitting on a bus last night when Legal Man came on the radio. It sounded pretty good, although it was hard to make out above the sounds of the bus's wheels and windows, buzzing like they do. Arantxa looked dubious. "Pastiche," she said. I rather liked it, though, but like someone said, it does sound like the theme to Eurotrash. Maybe the band will appear on Top Of The Pops, each wearing a pair of big plastic titties. I'm sitting in the university computer room at the moment, looking at a notice on the wall opposite. It says "In case of emergency, ring security on 3013." By some cruel twist of fate, 3013 was my telephone number in the first year and I used to get desperate phone calls at two in the morning from people who were being attacked, burgled, or having a siezure. Is that how you spell siezure? I had to tell them, apologetically, that I wasn't in fact the police, but a rather weedy young boy who wanted to go to back to sleep. It was quite bewildering. I woke up one morning and there was a message on the voicemail from a bloke with a thick, foreign accent: "I.. I cannot alm ze bellyole security..." I was terribly worried that I might have unwittingly let an innocent man die a horrible death. I do hope he's okay. Arantxa went off to ATP this morning and I'm feeling pretty glum because I couldn't go. Hope you kids are having fun at Camber Sands, anyway. You'll have to show me the photos. It'll be like Ibiza Uncovered, but in paperback, and with more boobs. Bye! Robin x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From merci_buckets at xxx.com Fri Apr 7 18:22:52 2000 From: merci_buckets at xxx.com (merci buckets) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 18:22:52 BST Subject: Sinister: dates being leaked?? Message-ID: <20000407172252.49468.qmail@hotmail.com> Apparently ( I haven't read it yet).. The Belfast Newsletter newspaper says that B&S are playing Belshaft in late August. That's all, John ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From guile.tln at xxx.br Fri Apr 7 18:43:36 2000 From: guile.tln at xxx.br (Guilherme Barrella) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 14:43:36 -0300 Subject: Sinister: high fidelity Message-ID: <38EE1E48.BD9DD90B@terra.com.br> you guys probably don't know this but... there is a brazilian short movie based on the high fidelity book. it's called high fidelity - a low fidelity version (or something like this... i'm probably wrong). anyway... it's available on vhs around here. and there are lots of great brazilian bands on the soundtrack. if anyone is interested, i can give you more details. love, gui -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Passem suas horas na net com a Winnie Cooper! Site Oficial: http://www.winniecooper.cjb.net MP3s: http://www.mp3.com/winniecooper Webmail Gratuito: http://winniecooper.zzn.com Fã Clube: http://www.terravista.pt/IlhadoMel/5883/ ----------------------------------------------------------- A única gravadora que cometeu a loucura de nos contratar! Slag Records: http://slag.sekure.org ----------------------------------------------------------- A gravadora de coletâneas mais indie do Brasil! 1, 2, 3 Indiezinhos Records: http://www.indiezinhos.cjb.net ----------------------------------------------------------- "Vocês me dão medo" Eduardo Ramos, Slag Records "Quando acabar essa turnê espero realizar meu sonho de ser roadie da Winnie Cooper" Kurt Cobain, roadie do Man Or Astroman? "É sério que na verdade vocês são uma banda de metal?" Pedro Palhares, Superheaven, Charllote's Suit, Blue Afternoon, etc e etc "Eu achava que os Jerssons eram a banda mais retardada da Slag, mas agora estou em dúvida" Eduardo Ramos, Slag Records "Eu queria aparecer na seção de frases da Winnie Cooper" Augusto Olivani, LoFi Zine ----------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kseto at xxx.com Fri Apr 7 19:42:25 2000 From: kseto at xxx.com (Ken Seto) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:42:25 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Salamanca bound.... Message-ID: <008001bfa0c1$04a94e40$514be2d1@TELEPRESENCE> Hello folks, I'm heading to Salamanca, Spain for two weeks of Spanish language courses and general merriment at the end of April. I'll be there from April 22 to May 7 or so. Just wondering if any of you charming people are in that area..(or even in Madrid). I'd like to meet up, even if it's just long enough for you to point me to the best tapas restaurants! :-) On another note... still deciding if I should pick up the LLPJ boxed set since I already have DOW and 369SOL. ugh. BTW, Where did you guys hear the new single? Is it on the 'net anywhere? -Ken +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dolphin-y at xxx.jp Sat Apr 8 15:53:35 2000 From: dolphin-y at xxx.jp (Yuka Nakajima) Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 23:53:35 +0900 Subject: Sinister: Introducing myself & Q Message-ID: <200004081453.AA00401@pam07885.mb.neweb.ne.jp> Hiya all. My name is Yuka and I live in the suburbs of Tokyo. I was an editor/technical translator of telecommunication till March and am looking for a new job now. To be honest, my first impression of B&S was "too weak" and nothing stirred my heart actually. But the older I got, the sweeter, greater, and cooler their sound became for me. Now I curse myself for not being born in the UK cos I've never seen their concerts. I'm dying to see their show in Japan...I don't know if they like my country or not though. My fav bands other than B&S are: Trash Can Sinatras/Teenage Fanclub/Gomez/Squeeze/Charlatans/Ride/Guided By Voices Chapterhouse/New Order/A Flock Of Seagulls/Jools Holland Orange Juice/Yo La Tengo/Travis/Big Country/Swervedriver. My fav author is James Herriot by the way. Lastly, I'd like to ask you listees from Scotland: Why is Scotland called "the land of cakes?" Cheers, Yuka *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*--*-*-*-*-* Yuka Nakajima dolphin-y at mb.neweb.ne.jp jellyfish71 at yahoo.co.jp Life is like a dog-sled team. If you ain't the lead dog the scenery never changes. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Sat Apr 8 15:45:42 2000 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:45:42 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: a sinister health warning Message-ID: bad news folks. our beloved sinister has been used to spread a highly infectious computer virus. The virus named Sinisteritus is passed from computer to operator leaving up to 1,200 people infected. Please be on the lookout for the following symptoms. 1)mispronouncing the word great as if it was spelt grate. 2)upon finding a tasty foodstuff pronouncing it to be yum 3)upon being pleased with something giving the DICKIESQUE murmur MMMMMM Later stages of the disease have much more far reaching effects. One sufferer (not me honest) recently believed that the Rare Bird song Beautiful Scarlet was in fact written about Erica Macarthur even though it was written in 1969 and so predates the youthful beauty. As the lists resident wizard I have developed a powerful spell to counteract the virus, all sufferers should follow these intstructions carefully in order to be free of the virus 1) first find a large tree 2) next a group of people must be found to witness the spell, it is comunity magic and therefore derives its power from the watching masses. 3) now dance round the tree in a backwards skipping manner 4) after 3 passes around the tree turn and dance forwards another 3 times while chanting the following incantation "Ooo-ayama-sill-ebugga" if you follow this advice not only will you be free from the virus but you will also be protected from mishearing the lyrics to the new single and album, oh yeah and you'll get a shag in the next week as well. well now that your health is sorted out time for a few other points. the book high fidelity is not in fact very good, anyone who disagrees is directed to read the following so that they know the meaning of the term great book, the wind up bird chronicle by Haruki Murakami, underworld by Don DeLilo, and anything by Kafka or Raymond Carver. Robyn mentioned a film about half japanese which I haven't actually seen but I'll recomend it anyway just 'cos the soundtrack will be great. Was listening to "the greatest hits of half japanese" a couple of days ago and found a rather great bit of writing by David Fair in the sleevenotes, all aspiring guitarists should read it but here's the gist of it for the rest of you. 1) don't tune your guitar as it makes it seem like there is a right way and a wrong way to do things. 2) don't learn any chords as knowing a set of notes and only playing those limits the amount of noises you can make. 3) don't buy a guitar that has the tuning things on the body of the guitar rather than at the end of the neck, they look silly and so will you. 4) when choosing strings you could copy david or his brother Jad. David uses 6 different strings so that he can get more noises out of the guitar, Jad has 6 strings the same so that he can never hit the wrong string. 5) play an electric guitar rather than an acoustic one, they make more noise. well that's more than enough from me, bye now and remember to chant Ooo-ayama-sill-ebugga love and pink things owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dee at xxx.ie Sat Apr 8 18:06:52 2000 From: dee at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 18:06:52 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: dad let us drink vodka in the kitchen Message-ID: __________________ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 18:13:38 GMT From: Roisin McGarr To: tom at netsoc.ucd.ie, a98bf25e at student.ucd.ie, autumn at pillboxmagazine.co.uk, brianod at netsoc.ucd.ie, torney at indigo.ie, citysickness at hotmail.com, josiefitz at hotmail.com, naomicasey at hotmail.com, shewolf at tellmeimcute.com, university.observer at ucd.ie Subject: English Just look what I'm missing in English. >>> >RECEIVED FROM AN ENGLISH PROFESSOR: "You know that book Men are from Mars, Women from Venus? Well, here's a prime example of that. This assignment was actually turned in by two of my English students: Rebecca - last name deleted and Gary - last name deleted. English 44A SMU, Creative Writing Prof. Miller In-class Assignment for Wednesday "Today we will experiment with a new form called the tandem story. The process is simple. Each person will pair off with the person sitting to his or her immediate right. One of you will then write the first paragraph of a short story. The partner will read the first paragraph and then add another paragraph to the story. The first person will then add a third paragraph, and so on back and forth. Remember to re-read what has been written each time in order to keep the story coherent. The story is over when both agreea conclusion has been reached." >>> >----------------------------------------------------------- STORY: At first, Laurie couldn't decide which kind of tea she wanted. The camomile,which used to be her favourite for lazy evenings at home, now reminded her too much of Carl, who once said, in happier times, that he liked camomile. But she felt she must now, at all costs, keep her mind off Carl. His possessiveness was suffocating, and if she thought about him too much her asthma started acting up again. So camomile was out of the question. >>> >----------------------------------------------------------- Meanwhile, Advance Sergeant Carl Harris, leader of the attack squadron now in orbit over Skylon 4, had more important things to think about than the neuroses of an air-headed asthmatic bimbo named Laurie with whom he had spent one sweaty night over a year ago. "A.S. Harris to Geostation 17," he said into his transgalactic communicator. "Polar orbit established. No sign of resistance so far...". But before he could sign off a bluish particle beam flashed out of nowhere and blasted a hole through his ship's cargo bay. The jolt from the direct hit sent him flying out of his seat and across the cockpit. >>> >---------------------------------------------------------- He bumped his head and died almost immediately, but not before he felt one last pang of regret for psychically brutalising the one woman who had ever had feelings for him. Soon afterwards, Earth stopped its pointless hostilities towards the peaceful farmers of Skylon 4. "Congress Passes Law Permanently Abolishing War and Space Travel." Laurie read in her newspaper one morning. The news simultaneously excited her and bored her. She stared out the window, dreaming of her youth - when the days had passed unhurriedly and carefree, with no newspapers to read, no television to distract her from her sense of innocent wonder at all the beautiful things around her. "Why must one lose one's innocence to become a woman?" she pondered wistfully. >>> >--------------------------------------------------------- Little did she know, but she has less than 10 seconds to live. Thousands of miles above the city, the Anu'udrian mothership launched the first of its lithium fusion missiles. The dim-witted wimpy peaceniks who pushed the Unilateral Aerospace Disarmament Treaty through Congress had left Earth a defenceless target for the hostile alien empires who were determined to destroy the human race. Within two hours after the passage of the treaty the Anu'udrian ships were on course for Earth, carrying enough firepower to pulverise the entire planet. With no one to stop them, they swiftly initiated their diabolical plan. The lithium fusion missile entered the atmosphere unimpeded. The President, in his top-secret mobile submarine headquarters on the ocean floor off the coast of Guam, felt the inconceivably massive explosion which vaporised Laurie and 85 million other Americans. The President slammed his fist on the conference table. "We can't allow this! I'm going to veto that treaty! Let's blow 'em out of the sky!" >>> >---------------------------------------------------------- This is absurd. I refuse to continue this mockery of literature. My writing partner is a violent, chauvinistic, semi-literate adolescent. >>> >---------------------------------------------------------- Yeah? Well, you're a self-centred tedious neurotic whose attempts at writing are the literary equivalent of Valium. >>> >---------------------------------------------------------- Asshole. >>> >---------------------------------------------------------- Bitch. >>> >---------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________________________ >>>Paul Bradley >>>Application Development School >>>SCHLUMBERGER >>>Mobile Communications Solutions >>>Tel: +33 1 47 46 66 67 (Extn. 5477) >>>Fax: +33 1 47 46 59 31 >>>Mobile: +33 6 09 37 04 89 >>>Email : pbradley at slb.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lofemo at xxx.com Sat Apr 8 18:09:08 2000 From: lofemo at xxx.com (kevin-m) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 10:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: jesus, catpower live and hi fidelity(b&s content) Message-ID: <20000408170908.454.qmail@web1006.mail.yahoo.com> hello. 001: i read in the paper that yesterday was the most probably and realistic date of jesus' birth. 002: with regards to item number 001, i though it would be appropriate to arrange a christmas present for the list and so i just posted a recording of the cat power show from apr.6/00 (in toronto). catpower live(49min./11.5Mb, encoded for 56k): www.geocities.com/lofemo/catpower.html (you can also stream it, sort of...) 003: last night i saw the film hi-fidelity. genious. it features a clip from seymour stein. it was fab. well then, merry christmas. kevin-m (lofemo at hotmail dot com) (www.members.tripod.com/lofemo) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nessa_fmjod at xxx.com Sat Apr 8 23:30:12 2000 From: nessa_fmjod at xxx.com (nessa) Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 15:30:12 -0700 Subject: Sinister: How Pavement are seriously yum Message-ID: Katy sez >Anyway what I'm more excited by is that I've just made a really good >compilation tape of Pavement, who are >my other favourite band alongside Belle & Sebastian. I apologise if a >Pavement mix tape sounds >like sacrilege to some people, but if there's anyone who hasn't heard this >wonderful band and would like to then just ask me for a copy. > >I think it's healthy to put music above personal relationships. Yes, and its even better to let them influence them. Or maybe it isn't. that might end in disaster and possibly rude sex where stephen malkmus's lyrics are concerned *fame throwa? ratteled by the rush?*. but thats business for the low down and dirty pavement list. we are clean here *don't ask me, I'm an agent* - *I'm not really a gary numan fan though* hey, try not to worry about it too much. I know that sounds terrible... sorry I'm totally useless. I'll shut up in a minute. this is my first e mail to this list. I've been lurking but felt inspired to speak. hi. What is the point of wisdom teeth? how do they suddenly convey wisdom? was it like when you see wise old people in bad hammer horror they have no teeth? except the back ones? thats why they're wisdom teeth? or to console yourself because you've reached 18 and even if you're still thick you must be wise because you're growing another set of teeth? anyway, all I know is that my jaw is like murder. yuck. nessa XXXX ******************************************************************** get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redelvis at xxx.net Sun Apr 9 11:55:54 2000 From: redelvis at xxx.net (JR?) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 03:55:54 -0700 Subject: Sinister: How Pavement are seriously yum References: Message-ID: <38F061BA.A8A95E7@pacbell.net> nessa and kitty katy discussed: > >Anyway what I'm more excited by is that I've just made a really good > >compilation tape of Pavement > >I think it's healthy to put music above personal relationships. > Yes, and its even better to let them influence them. i discussed this with someone today before i even read the thread. but i found that in order for me to take it to another level with someone i need to be able to give up my pavement collection for them. as much as its hard to imagine and i probably will never do it the idealogy is there and understood. everyone needs pavement in their life as much as belle and sebastian. in order for to date a girl i require one thing [1] like belle and sebastian shallow. only shallow. someone has to play, daniel ryder the park ranger http://foolarchy.com/redelvis http://www.gurlpages.com/music/jnthn icq-1010543 aim-coxonryder i bent my wookie :( +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Sun Apr 9 15:17:01 2000 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 10:17:01 EDT Subject: Sinister: One fine day in the middle of the night, two dead men got up to fight... Message-ID: <7b.2d155ed.2621eadd@aol.com> Hewwo, Woo, I had the strangest dream about sinister last night, I dreamed that everyone on the entire list was having a meet up and it was on the Isle of Skye. And Erica, David Strange, Topher and me were sharing a car, which Erica was driving, and it had a big smiley face on it. So we all got to the meet up, which was being held on a big giant double decker bus, and everyone started asking questions about who had organized the meet up, but no one seemed to know. So we thought this was a bit odd, and we discovered that it was in fact an evil plot by an extremist religious group to kidknap us all and make us do magic (because it was a dream and we could all do magic in dreams). So we were trying to magic ourselves out of the bus, but it wasn't working. Then Isobel and Stuart flew there on giant giraffes, and picked up the bus and carried it to a big field, where we all had a smashing picnic and played football, and made daisy chains. And I was a bit disapointed when I woke up and found that it wasn't real, and that belle and sebastian fans couldn't really do magic. Idle Berry had a grate idea about a B&S sticker album, and I seriously think that we should all petition Jeepster about it until they give in. I'm really not joking about this. Also, I really liked Mikey's story, and I don't know why there was a warning up the top, because it was really sweet and nice. I think David Strange mentioned Melody Pops, which is interesting, because I'm thinking of writing a book on Melody Pops, called "Blow Me Baby- The Definitive Guide to Melody Pops" with a big smiling cartoon melody pop on the front cover, and having tips on how to get the best sound, how not to make it all slebbery, and which flavours are best for which tunes. Which a little tune index of belle and sebastian songs and how to play them, because I do actually sit on the bus and play B&S songs on a strawberry melody pop every day and this means I get expert status. I'll just shut up now. HMV are selling all the Smiths albums for 6 quid. This is quite good, but I still have no means of earning money, since I got chucked off my busking patch by an irate shopkeeper. Yesterday, me and my mum went all the way down to newcastle, to sit in McDonalds and come back up again. Then get done for speeding, somewhere around Berwick. I did a really bad thing and laughed when someone got expelled. But it's so good, from my point of view. Mr Tragedy asked, in his typically tactful (ooh, alliteration) way: "Is the Sinister list officially full of 'twee fieldmice bastards' as someone described it?" And yes I think so. Either that or I just don't get most of the innuendo banged about here. I hope everyone who is at ATP is having a lovely time. I missed legal man. Hugs, Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From strappingarab at xxx.com Sun Apr 9 15:34:28 2000 From: strappingarab at xxx.com (robert smith) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 07:34:28 PDT Subject: Sinister: cardigans and their many dangers Message-ID: <20000409143428.18583.qmail@hotmail.com> before i start my little rant i thinkk that i should make it clear that no matter what i say, i love my cardigan. the problem is that i think that it is some sort of parasite that feeds on energy. whenever i put it on i lose whatever desire i had to do anything, even reading becomes quite a chore let alone things like essays. another danger faced by cardigan wearers every day is that if you live iin an area like barnet to go outside in your cardigan is to ask for all kinds of abuse. its only because i'm so big that i don't get beaten up all the time. by that i don't mean that i'm hard and fight a lot i mean that i've got long legs and can run awys very fast. much to the amusement of the puffer jacket wearing wretches that are are hot on my tail. i think now would be as good a time as any to explain a little about barnet. it is the most northerly point of north london and rarther middle class. like all suburban (more like sub-human) part of london if is packed to the gills with pseudo-cockneys whoes idea of a good night out is to hang around in herds outside supermarkets drinking alco pops as they are too young to get served in pubs which normally couldn't care less about your age. these 'people' have such fragile egos that they feel the need to atack people who are a bit different so as they can define themselves by what they hate. the are fully paid up members of the fasion brigade. sorry about ranting so much, thanks to everyone who made it to the end. i just had to get it off my chest. bye ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From julesmarkham at xxx.net Sun Apr 9 17:12:34 2000 From: julesmarkham at xxx.net (julesmarkham) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 17:12:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: black fox Message-ID: <002e01bfa23e$84306760$ac1fac3e@tonygeorge> hi guys, well, this weekend has been pretty vile. A funeral, a family fight and a rejection letter from the postgraduate course I applied to. So you folks will be stuck with me for another year... I wrote this last night. This has had no edits, no rewrites, I thought you folks would like to see a rough version of a story of mine. Jubilee and the fox were taking the griffin for a walk in the woods. It was a few hours before dawn, and even the birds were silent. Jubilee let the griffin off it's leash, and sat down on a tree stump beside the river that ran through the woods. The griffin followed the water downstream to a small pool, where fish swam. The leaves on the tree's were turning gold, and the gentle breeze stirred the sleepy autumn warmth around the griffins outstretched wings. Jubilee was starting to dose off when the fox shouted out to her. She got up and wandered over to the pool, where the fox sat, staring at the water. -What is it, fox? Jubilee looked into the water. The pool was filled with small, quick fish. When they leaped out of the water their shapes seemed to blur. They looked like butterflies. Jubilee smiled. -What are they? ~possibilities, the fox said with a shrug ~They might be songs, or stories or something one day, but right now they're just potential. The griffin wandered over, sniffing the water curiously. A fish touched the surface and the griffin scooped it out onto the riverbank. It shimmered slightly, and for a moment looked like a blue dragonfly. The griffin snapped, and it was gone. Jubilee was angry with the griffin for eating the fish, until it slid its beak under her hand and purred softly. she scratched its chin, her anger forgotten. She trailed her fingers in the water in a continuous movement, curve after curve. Her reflection pushed her coppery hair out of her eyes. Jubilee stopped. The reflection continued to play with her hair, curling it around her long fingers thoughtfully. -Fox? Who's that? The fox glanced at the image in the water. ~That's us. -But there's only one person there, Jubilee replied. The fox said nothing, and wandered further upstream, looking up at the lightening sky. The clouds were burnished with gold, it was going to be a nice day. jubilee watched the fox and the griffin further along the waters edge, and got up to follow them. The fish flickered through the waters, dreamers and dreams. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MyMomSays at xxx.com Sun Apr 9 17:30:39 2000 From: MyMomSays at xxx.com (MyMomSays at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 12:30:39 EDT Subject: Sinister: Squeals with delight! Message-ID: Lovebugs. Hi. Well, at the last minute yesterday I was whisked off to Denver, Colorado to go record shopping. I don't know about the rest of you, but my income is pretty low due to those taxes and all. I ended up only buying the new Trembling Blue Stars album and after bringing it home, having a friend try and negate my purchase by remarking (in a sad, monotone voice): "Oh. Prepare to be disappointed." I am listening to it right now, however, and I am liking it so far. I just tried to post my picture on the photo gallery. I'm not sure if I did it right. Here is something funny: I live in Colorado, middle of nowhere-ville, right? Full of cowboys and gang bangers, minivans and those bad bangs-hairsprayed-straight-vertical hairstyles. I have four close friends (all girls) who are always lamenting the sorry fact that there aren't many of "that sort" of people here. So we were in Denver yesterday. Everytime we see a boy with thick glasses, the three of them squeal in delight like they just spotted a mystical unicorn (haha). It's really funny. Has anyone ever read any fiction by Gary Lutz? He's my absolute favorite and a devout Belle and Sebastian fan. Look for his book at outlet book stores everywhere! Drinking-Orange-Juicely Yours, Mandee L. Hah. Has anyone seen "Guinevere" yet with Sarah Polley? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Sun Apr 9 19:27:56 2000 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 19:27:56 BST Subject: Sinister: legal shenanigans Message-ID: <20000409182757.19844.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi evryone having listened to Legal Man a good 20 times since friday I have come to the conclusion it's really really good. i didn't think that it sounded like them at all at first but now I realise it does- it fits right in. I can see why it probably wouldn't work as an album track and Winter Wooskie is a fantastic track to have as a B-side anyway. The lyrics to Legal Man are nicely witty too... right I am off to see Elastica. I hope they play all the old good stuff... Check the contract and speak to my attorney Paul ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.bartilson at xxx.com Sun Apr 9 20:23:42 2000 From: alexander.bartilson at xxx.com (Alexander Bartilson) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 21:23:42 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Me, myself and I Message-ID: <001801bfa259$50a76540$01727180@alex> Hi, Ok, great, have been out of the nursery for a while now, without knowing it. Great. So, this is where I tell you some things about myself. Well, am 18 years old and I live in Sweden. Moving on to my musical taste...I like many different genres including electronic music as well as indie-pop. I've been spellbound by Belle & Sebastian ever since I bought Tigermilk which was about 6 months ago I think. I also think Kraftwerk rocks heavy... Among others... 18 years old in Sweden means I'm graduating from the equivalence to upper secondary school (it said so in my dictionary). Anyway, in Sweden we first have 9 years of compulsory school and then we have 3 years of gymnasium (it's the Swedish word for it). I'm graduating from the latter one in June. That's going to be great. It's really been some tough 3 years. Not that it's university or anything but it's tough anyway, you have so many courses about all kinds of different things, of which half of them I don't know when I'm going to use the knowledge I've gained. After that I think I'll be taking one year off. Just doing nothing. Nothing studishy anyway (I know that's not a word). Saw a concert with Ron Sexsmith yesterday. Boy, was that great. He just stood there, alone, with his guitar, delivering beautiful songs. Ahh... Well, that's about everything for my first contribution to this list. Contribution or your loss of time, take a pick... ///Alexander +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk Sun Apr 9 20:28:42 2000 From: amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk (amy_jackson0) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 20:28:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: all those atp shenanigans, and i'm not there....*sob* Message-ID: <002d01bfa259$ed94bc40$33053c3e@tinypc> 20:19, sunday 9th april hidelyho everyone, how are you all? i'm not too bad actually, considering my recent rather over-emotional behaviour in jeepster chat.......apologies to peter panic, linn, and colin the hare, also to bluemorning and the sad witch......i have no idea if you are all on the sinister list, but i will apologise, just in case......... for all of you who don't know what i am on about, it is all b&s boy's fault!!!! *ahem* well, i came to the conclusion today that i love being a b&s fan a lot. possibly even more than i love b&s, which is a GRATE amount.......this is not to say that i love b&s any less than before, i love them more so even.........oh this is confusing.....what i am trying to say is that i love this wee community, all the posts etc and i think you are all fantastic.....any spare list crush votes can come my way anytime!!! *blush* it has been an eventful week, i stayed off school from wednesday onwards because i was ill. well, i had the cold, does that count?? so i listened to b&s far more than is healthy and i have now decided that wee richard looks a lot like a builder that lives near me. well, i've never seen them together, so maybe richard has a sideline as a brickie?? we need to be told. if i hear his hammering rhythm bears an uncanny resemblance to the drums in "like dylan in the movies" it's certain........does that mean that the others have sideline jobs? is mick moonlighting as a graffiti artist in glasgow? does sarah spend her spare time as a sales assistant in b&q?? is isobel really doing it for businessmen on the piano in a japanese restaurant??!!!!! this is getting silly now....... as for signing a petition for a b&s sticker book, then put my name down, imagine, buying the stickers for 30p a pack in the newsies, saving up all my hard earned pocket money for the album and then finding that ALL THE STICKERS ARE DUPLICATES!!!!! THERE IS ONLY SO MANY STICKERS OF CHRIS GEDDES I CAN TAKE!!!!!!!! (and i don't think a sticker big enough can fit his flares on......) I SAVED ALL MY MONEY FOR THESE STICKERS!!!!! AAAARRRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!! sorry, i have had bad experiences with sticker albums in the past, i never ever completed my USA 94 scotland world cup squad album......too many stickers of Ally McCoist........... i am happy though, because i have just found out that my beloved aberdeen fc have beaten hibs, which means they are in the final of the tennants scottish cup against rangers and they will be in europe next season!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh, small things please small minds!! well, i have written far more than i was going to, so i shall love you and leave you, but i will return before my sojourn to liverpool next saturday........ :o) adios, littlebelleXXXXXXXXXXX(she does exactly what she says on the tin) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dee at xxx.ie Sun Apr 9 23:42:20 2000 From: dee at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 23:42:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: "did you have to get me three turkish delights ?" Message-ID: My subject line is exactly what i said to my sisters boyfriend who works in a chocolate factory adn knows how much we love chocolate. However due to the fact that I was feeling rather poorly today which is why my jam jams have not slid off my leg at all today ensured that I posed this rude question to him. Nut its okay. Cause he took the piss out of me for loudly whistling the theme song of Glenroe when I thougth no on e was litening. I'm just thinking that what with tweeability being so overrated as it is on this list about the things one could do to counter such desperately pallid dispositions. Aussie rules football.I discovered it today as i lounged in front of the TV, the rules are there are no rules. Now don't get me wrong. I HATE sport. When people i used to work with would nip off to catch the masters, I'd ask was that car racing and they'd snigger. I once in trying to impress a boy who supported Liverpool said, Oh yeah (Iprobably had my hand on my hips, you know that casual stance) he scored it by a hat trick. The very unimpressed boy decuided at that moment that I was a female version of IAN Beale and he never spoke to me again. But Australian footy ; strueth, its excellent. First of all , everyone qualifies. I think the teams have uneven amounts of people. Secondly, its a circular pitch. How cool is that. Thats like a running track with the bit thats taken out, put back in. Thirdly, there noinjury time because you see how badly injured they get and they have to continue, like the Greeks and the trojans in the iliad. Homer didn't believe in injury time and either do the Australians. There is no irritating stats popping up on the screen such as "27% of the pitch was used in todays match" like what featured prominently in Wimbelton. 0h oh the computer is doing that thing agian, its gonna crash, I better get outtie, pretty quickly. Oh I've got an interview with Isabelle from the vicious waves fame for the paper, isn;t that insane ? the band who dont do interviews, letting me do one. I wont get to meet them or anything, they are much to shy for that, but I'll get to ring them and be put on hold and have someone at the switch dialling the secret extension numbers while I ask my questions and be asked to repeat them because I'll beb ound to rush them and rush all the words into one another. So has anyone got any specific questions they would like me to ask ? ______________________ no ? well good , I only said that thing about the interview because I realised how bad this post was and had to dash in a pipnch of B_S content even if it was a lie, it was exciting, i think most of the peoples dreams are total fabrications and that even some of the peoples stories are completely untrue. Take that caroline one for instance, preteding she went to edinburgh for the weekend. The truth is she didn;t go at all. she just wanted to tell lies to make friends. People like her make me sick. well okay that was another lie, why can;t I stop ? if must have been thoseferrero raffaello which TOny got me ? God, they rush right through you, did you know that ? okay, I'm sorry for telling lies. But sometimes lies are better than the truth. youse, i actually just needed a platform to practice from, because I made the mistake of assocaiting truth with easy carefree lifestyle and soon enough I'm going to be in deep water for my fling with truth. So practicing lies, will help me obtain an easy carfree lifestyle, by pretending that truth is fake and whats fake is true. Of couse if I just told lies in the first place, I wouldn't be inthis mess, actually if i didn;t do the things which necessitiated me having to tell the truth and then lies, I'd be fine, but then ththis post would have only been about aussie football and in fairness , who wants that ? __________________ Disclaimer : the information which is obtained through a quiet perusal of these emails should be absorbed by osmosis. Allow one to two years for the genius of each and every intentional spelling mistake and grammtical error to sink in for maximum effect. Recognising that Denise sometimes embellishes stories and leans towards outright lies is important for your own acumen of the holistic elements of the emails. Should your knee get itchy whilst you read emails from Denise, she is completely unresponsible unless of course, she happens to be tickling your knee. Then it is right and proper to stick something smaller than your elbow into her ear with the sole purpose to hurt her. That'll teach her. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From FakingUpARampage at xxx.com Mon Apr 10 01:35:14 2000 From: FakingUpARampage at xxx.com (FakingUpARampage at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 20:35:14 EDT Subject: Sinister: re: sinister: Me, myself and I Message-ID: such an appropriate subject title, i thought that i would use it as mine also... since im in a rather uncreative mood, which i guess wouldnt be the best time to post. but i will anyway, because i've worked up the nerve to, and i hate posting introduction notes more then almost anything in the world (picking up my puppy's 'presents' has to be my least favorite... ).. tho i guess i'm ok with normal posts. i shouldnt be _that_ notice tho, since i did introduce myself a long long time ago, but then i fell off the planet for a bit. so i shall just reintroduce myself like a first introduction, and you all can come to love me again, for the first time :) wow that was arrogant... forgive my weak attempt at humor, please. i didnt actually say hello... so hi hi!! tho i doubt many of you will care about the following, or the previous either.. so feel free to either briefly skim or just skip over the message... tho i do hate posting to myself... so :) i'm Jes... i used to be on the list as valium_pill at hotmail.com... tho i havent posted since the early summer... so i am assuming that you all forgot me... i am currently tigermilk-less... since i lent it to a friend of mine who i thought would adore it, but he still hasnt listened to it. and i gave it to him a month and a half ago. i told him that i needed it back for monday, since im in a terrible state of withdrawl... but i dont think he will remember. granted, he has more important things on his mind (college auditions)... but still. where am i... umm.. i am currently in mid-south new jersey... a lil suburban hell.. but i guess most places fit into that catagory now a-days... my birthday is next month.. well a month and a day away.. i'll be 17, which will be a nice step since hopefully i will be able to get my liscence.. other stuff i like... music wise... i like chick-rocky type stuff... and i like the pumpkins alot.... not music stuff... horses... fantasy type books... tho i have been getting into classic-ier stuff recently... the color purple... popples... remember popples? those marsupial teddy bears from the 80s? i used to have alot.. but now i only have one. i have the pink one with the microphone and the star on her chest. i think her name is punkity... but i dont really remember off the top of my head. and i like fortune cookies.. i have about 40 sitting in my drawer. i got the bestest fortune the other day too.. 'everyone agrees you are the best'.. so im going to frame it and put it on my wall... may 16th seems a very far time away... i really hate waiting. i want to go see looper in a couple weeks... but i dont think i'll be allowed to. even tho its over my spring break. i had a dream that i went to see looper at the beach... and i brought a shoe box of stuff... my cds... and some other cds (leah andreone's alchemy sticks out) and brought them with me... oh yeah, my nalda book was in the box too... and i asked stuart to sign them, and he was gracious enough to... but he drew happy faces on everything.. so my who's afraid of Y2K disc had a really big smily face on it.. but i didnt get to see them play, because the country singer that i went to the show with wanted to leave before hand. this goes with my dream of seeing belle and sebby in a nursing home and having to sneak in cos i was under the age of 65... and seeing a version of 'cats' (which had nothing to do with the actual musical) staring StuD and Karn at a local theater where i used to live... these arent half as amusing to talk about as Jen's recent giraffe dreams... but i enjoyed them while the took place. it snowed today... it was rather nice. i woke up and looked out the window, but since i thought i was dreaming, i went back to bed. when i woke up the second time, i realized that i wasnt dreaming, but i was greatful for the extra sleep. i went into the living room and saw my lamp post (outside)... there was snow on one half of it, but not the other... it was very CS Lewis, and made me long for my books.. i'm not sure where they are anymore... but i hope i can find them. the turkish delights subject header thingy has increased my need for the lion the witch and the wardrobe... this is getting to be too long, and since its generally about nothing, i shall be on my way... so sorry for boring ya... xoxox Jes +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mai.nguyen at xxx.edu Mon Apr 10 06:51:53 2000 From: mai.nguyen at xxx.edu (Mai Nguyen) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 22:51:53 -0700 Subject: Sinister: a day in the life Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000409225153.007d2340@pop.uvm.edu> hi everyone. i usually don't post to the list, but i had a lovely b&s-related experience today that inspired me to write this e-mail. i have a feeling that this post is going to be a bit cheesy, but too bad, i cannot help it. i won't be offended if anyone decides to delete this before reading past the first paragraph. alright, so my sunday started off with looking outside my window to find that the whole campus was covered in snow. so much for spring, i guess. i spent the rest of my day indoors researching for a paper, refusing to step outside my dorm hall because i scared to face that beast of a blizzard. even looking outside the window at the snow furiously blowing sideways was too much for me. so 7pm rolled around and the blizzard had passed, leaving us with cold, wet, and windy weather. my friend and i had to make a trip downtown to return the movie that we rented the previous night, 200 cigarettes (i liked the movie a lot, by the way). the off campus shuttle that we were planning to take, of course, was not running for some odd reason. so as we hiked down this big and icy hill to get to the video store, the weather was soo nasty it made me want to cry. my cheeks reached the point of almost being frost bitten- they hurt and were hard and swollen (that wasn't meant to sound smutty in any way, but i just didn't know how else to describe them). after we returned the movie to the smelly rental place, my friend and i headed down to our local favourite coffee shop with the jungle-like-interior. the second i stepped into the shop, the lovely sounds of 'you're just a baby' filled my ears and all was well for the next 30 or so minutes. i haven't listened to tigermilk, my favourite b&s album, in a while so it was really nice hearing it again. the thing is, it wouldn't have been the same if i had played the album in my room earlier today, or at any time for that matter. even though i know that stores and shops have the same b&s albums that i do, it just sounds so different when they play it. and i guess it isn't the sound itself that is different, but the feelings that i get when i hear b&s in public places that is different. its great to know you have a common bond with someone else in the room. its even better when you sit back and think of all the people in the room who are listening to the same music you are, only a few are aware of its brilliance. the whole time the album was playing, i could not concentrate on reading about politics in india at all. instead, i just looked around the room and smiled the whole time. and after the album ended, i wanted to hear it all over again because it was the first time in a long while that i was actually enjoying myself. instead, they put on midnight vultures by beck. that was fine with me though (not as if my approval is of any importance) because my friend and i proceeded to sing along and 'dance' to the first five songs of the album. we reluctantly left the coffee shop and started the long hike up the hill. i seriously thought i was going to die- high winds, icy and sometimes slushy snow, unplowed sidewalks- it was bad. not to mention the fact that my nose and the area just above my upper lip were completely numb and it hurt to breathe. i guess what i am trying to say is that the highlight of my day was hearing b&s at my favourite coffee shop. and because of that, i can say that my day wasn't all that bad. it was good for about 30 minutes (or however long listening to 'you're just a baby' to 'mary jo' is). so yes, that was the wonderful story that i was dying to tell you all. i know this e-mail is a bit on the long side, but it is a result of my lack of writing abilities. maybe my next post, which is due sometime next year, will be a bit shorter. unless, of course, i decide to post to the list my stories of stalking the band on their summer west coast tour (if they actually do have one). only a restraining order from the band (or well..lack of money, a job, parents...) will hold me back. missmai xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Mon Apr 10 13:47:46 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:47:46 -0400 Subject: Sinister: All Yesterday's Parties Message-ID: <200004100848_MC2-A091-8EEA@compuserve.com> Or is still today if you haven't been to bed yet? A knackered review of some personal ATP highlights: 1.The Ginger Ringer Footie first, by tradition. Others better versed in the ways of Football Focus will map the delicious details of the Sinister Team's triumphant route to the celebrity trophy (yeah!) but for now some B&S content, for that is what the team had (at least for the second half of the final). Callum's weekend of shameless starsucking knew no bounds, but paid off when he persuaded a shy lad who had been lurking around by the pitch at intervals through Sunday afternoon, obviously looking for a game, to play with our lads. I don't think Murdoch, S. actually scored, but he did shed real blood & sweat for the cause. All the boys in all the rounds done good. 2.The Fall Guy Scary but true: the same American Fall fan (?Brad) demonstrated how to learn from experience by mistaking me for John Peel *again*, whilst 30 metres across the hall the real thing (bearded, slightly older & a tad more portly) cued up and then played a Fall track. It was so much fun we've agreed to repeat the experience at the next, Tortoise compered, event. 3.Eastenders Parallels By Sunday night The Sinister corner in The Queen Vic was completely reclaimed & held against all opposition, including various members of Arab Strap & the 'gwai. Remote machines were absent (not required?). 4. OK, So Wasn't There Any Music, Then? Good: Stereolab, GYBE, The For Carnation, Sigur Ros Better: Arab Strap, Mogwai Best: Papa M (a sadly curtailed set of a few lacklustre numbers illuminated by the shining I Am Not Lonely With Cricket & the sparkly The One I Can't Remember The Title Of, & then Dave Pajo caught me completely unawares with a version of Turn, Turn, Turn that was soooooo beautiful that I was overcome) Poo: Sonic Youth Missed: SFA, Gorky's, Beanz DJ'ing in the pub Should Have Seen: And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of The Dead 5.My Favourite (Other) Things Excellent company, glamour, power napping, nice merchi people (including Struan again for a while, researching the next department store reference song), bitching, flaming Sambuca Romana, Papercuts (order your copy now before stocks run out), balcony busking, maybe more later...... 6.Not So Good Don't care Off to bed, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Mon Apr 10 14:28:12 2000 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:28:12 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: ...back to back they faced each other, drew their swords and shot one another Message-ID: me again with two new games for you to play the first is called stereo types, a simple game where you sit in a bar with your friends and guess what music people listen to on their stereos. If it's your first time start simple by spotting all of the marilyn manson and nine inch nails fans, next you can move on to spotting the oasis loving idiots and the charvas (thats chart ravers to the uninitiated). great fun guaranteed honest. the second game is called "what'll happen to Owen in april?". this too is a simple game where you have to decide what will happen to yours truely in the next 3 weeks. Will I write an entire 18,000 word disertation and two 6,000 word essays before the 28th, will I fail out of university in my last semester, will I just commit suicide and have an end to the torture? Place your bets and stay tuned for the exciting conclusion. In order to keep you up to date with the latest betting trends I'll be writing an april update at the ends of my posts for the next few weeks. anyway onto other stuff JR? said in order for to date a girl i require one thing [1] like belle and sebastian which i hope isn't true cos they should have big tits as well (hey it's just a joke calm down). No but this just struck me as a bizarre way to pick a partner, maybe I'm just weird but I always went for girls with great personalities who can make me laugh, they always end up liking B&S anyway so I don't worry about their musical taste. Hmmm I just used the word weird and then seemed to vaguely remember someone commenting that it didn't conform to the old spelling rule, well as sinister's leading speller (sorry bad wizard based pun) I should just point out that many words in the following sentence don't conform, bet none of you can write a sentence with more non-conformist words in. Seize the weird sheik, throw him in the weir, that will give the fish a surfeit of protein. OK so it depends on how you pronounce sheik as to whether it should count but it's a good sentence anyway so there. Oh and time for a big welcome home to all the lucky people who had enough time and money to go to all tomorrow's potterings, me jealous? too fucking right. THE APRIL UPDATE words to write before the 28th 30,000 words written to date 7,000 words left 23,000 days left 18 words per day required about 1,300 right I'm off to do some work now love owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Mon Apr 10 15:26:42 2000 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:26:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Why so wrong? Why the face so long? Is it over? Message-ID: <002501bfa2f8$ce919620$9ecdb0c2@default> Hi Sinister Massive. Well, I went to Sweetie's house and had a really nice time. I even rode my first horse (bareback - ouch) and was waiting to fall off. I didn't, thankfully :) I met her friend Susan, which caused some strangeness I was holding Sweetie's hand (just cos we're good friends) and Susan was making suggestive comments, so I decided the best (hah!) way to make her stop was to hold her hand too. Bad idea. For the rest of the time, she was sort of, in Sweetie's other friend's words, "trailing me" all day But it was a nice weekend there. Thanks Sweetie. Hmm. Heard Legal Man again today. The more I hear it, the more I want to hear it again. Excellent indeed. Daniel the JR type guy said: >in order for to date a girl i require one thing > >[1] like belle and sebastian I require two things: [1] She actually likes me back (which hasn't happened yet, but hopefully will before I turn 30) [2] She must have a pulse. Stereo Update: I got the stereo back 'repaired' only for the same fault to be there. I phoned them and the guy said "hmm, worked fine with us sir." Lovely people. Then it started to smoke, so I have taken it back to the shop *again* and am requesting everyone to keep their fingers crossed for me. *GOD* I miss my MD. I have a black marker pen and wish to graffitti some bus stops. I just can't think what to write. Hopefully it will all come clear Robert Smith (of the Cure?) said: >i love my cardigan Which is amazingly twee. I must admit to being in love with my light-blue denims and 'Chinese Writing' shirt. Of course I don't wear them together - I'd look even more of a twat than usual. I am trying to pluck up the courage to go to the dentist and get my tooth fixed. It's a lot easier said than done. I am going to the Primal Scream gig this week, but I can't be bothered. I'm only going because I promised my friend (and bought a ticket). I'm not in the mood for gigs at the moment - I have a heavy heart. I am making a plea now to you all. This probably only applies to UK folk: I am being forced to give up my 4 and a half year old husky, Cody. He's a friendly animal who requires a lot of love and affection and so someone who really likes to walk would be ideal. This is a heartfelt plea to you all. I really want him to go to a good home, and not some sort of pet shelter. If there's anyone who would like to know more, please mail me privately at jasonandreas at breathemail.net His picture is on the photo page, by the way. Thank you for listening. --Jason Andreas Silent whispers in my head, Never heard but always said. ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From on-top-of-the-world at xxx.uk Mon Apr 10 16:32:41 2000 From: on-top-of-the-world at xxx.uk (James Errington) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:32:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: This is going to sound VERY melodramatic... Message-ID: <200004101532.QAA07795@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> You know when something happens to you, and you can't tell any of your friends because, well, you should have told them a long long time ago if they were to be in on the secret at all... Well, I've decided to tell you all instead because you aren't going to tell them and I HAVE to tell SOMEBODY, and it is quite interesting an' all but do feel free to skip it if you like. OK, here we go. For the past 6 months or so I've been in a constant state of being convinced that I only had a few weeks to live. And, though I'm not going to go into detail, I had pretty good reason to think that. As you can imagine, I started getting a little mentally unstable and self-destructive and as I was too scared of the truth to go to a doctor it got worse and worse until I frankly started scaring my friends with behaviour which was either 'get my gun' strange or stupidly dangerous. And then last thursday I finally plucked up the courage to get something done about it and it turned out to be more-or-less nothing. And I've never been so happy in my life, its like I've suddenly got this future ahead of me and I can do whatever I like and I can hardly feel my feet touch the ground and suddenly the constant thought of 'don't plan ahead, there's no point' has gone and I'm so relieved... But I can't tell my friends so I thought I'd tell you all. If you're still listening, I've got a musical reccomendation too. Kevin Ayers' Whatevershebringswesing is sort of like B&S / Nick Drake if they branched out into semi-prog-rock in the very early seventies. Need I say more? I just know lots of you will love it. His other stuff is good too, but that's the starting point really. Anyone else like it? Mmm? ANYway, thanks for listening. xxx, weejay Blue Glow is now at http://diskant.future.easyspace.com/blueglow/ (This network is as sick as a dog. If you can't get through try maleslut at chickmail.com instead) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brandtpfundak at xxx.com Mon Apr 10 16:46:20 2000 From: brandtpfundak at xxx.com (Brandt Fundak) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Manvers in dark comedy Message-ID: <20000410154621.7310.qmail@web1805.mail.yahoo.com> Hi all. It's me again, here to waste your time with my thoughts on the new Belle and Sebastian song/single as well as my observations on the Cleveland music scene, something I know like 4 of you on this list care about, but I thought that maybe if you guys had seen some of the same tours we would have a point of common experience. So without further adieu... LEGAL MAN Ok, so my first experience with this song was probably less than ideal. I listened to it via real audio and the quality was spotty at best. I think I need to hear it via CD or LP on my stereo to make a good judgement. Keith Watson said on Friday that it was a catchy tune, and maybe he's right, but it's hard to make a judgement when it sounds like you are listening to it via a scratchy telephone connection. YO LA TENGO Great show, wierd crowd. There were numerous people drinking wine (I found myself wondering when I had arrived at the wine tasting party) and there was one guy who looked like an overweight jock boy throwing his arms around and dancing like a fool. He was especially getting into it when Ira Kaplan launched into some really discordant guitar lines. I think at one point he elbowed a guy in the face and the guy gave him a stern talking to, because past that point I saw the ape boy's arms yearning to breathe free, but practicing restraint, he just played air guitar instead. It's not often that a crowd could ruin a show for me, but by the time YLT came on for their second encore in classic arena rock style, I was fed up and yearning to watch IRON CHEF (which, thanks to a technical glitch, I never got to see.) CAT POWER I thought Saturday would be better since I had a ticket to see Cat Power, but it ended up being postponed a night because Chan Marshall had car troubles in Detroit. So instead my friend Liz and I had an IRON CHEF marathon. Then Chan came into town last night and played. She showed her typical (from what I hear) fear of the crowd--her fear often manifested itself in attempts at witty banter with the audience during the middle of a song. Highlights include: 1. Chan asking if some long dead Cleveland rocker was in the crowd. This ended up generating a conversation between Chan and an audience member who explained thew rocker's unfortunate fate (that he committed suicide in the 70s.) 2. Trivia time! She asked us what the city of brotherly love was, to which the entire crowd ansered "Philadelphia." She then asked what Detroit was. I screamed "a hellhole!" She said "no, that's south africa." ok. 3. This strange boy with a shirt wrapped around his head walked up to the stage, stared at her for 5 seconds and walked away. Chan joked, "that's my boyfriend. He likes to make me feel important." A funny joke until you find out after the show that the guy is selling Cat Power records in the back. 4. Chan asks if we'll all run to the bar if she tells us drinks are on the house. This accentuates her fear of the crowd and some of the less couth members of the audience start screaming at her. Anyway, if any of you saw cat power, it may seem that I didn't like the show, but I did. I just found it strange that she just wouldn't stop playing. She would never take a break to receive much deserved applause, but would instead do wierd changes and then joke with the audience to cover up how wierd they were. Last night was just crazy. I went to the apothecary to get some cheap assed ibuprofin and on my way back to my apartment (I live around the corner from the venue) I was asked if I rode a scooter and a hippy tried to sell me hash. Crazy. A PRAYER FOR OWEN MEANY I just got done reading this book and since I had a nasty row with my father this weekend, I sat and fumed for a good hour after I read it. I had to "clean the palate" (for lack of a better term) by picking up my copy of THE HOBBIT. I am tired as shit today though. Brandt ===== "Selma, Jub Jub is fantastic! He's everywhere you want to be!" --Troy McClure __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lixibell at xxx.com Mon Apr 10 18:53:48 2000 From: lixibell at xxx.com (alix campbell) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:53:48 GMT Subject: Sinister: drew their swords and shot each other Message-ID: <20000410175348.88793.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello Here�s a crap post from me. I�m jealous of everyone who buggered off to ATP despite having been saying that I didn�t want to go. I just don�t like being left out. Hope you all had fun and didn�t catch measles or anything nasty. Weather turned out nice, didn�t it? Didn�t bother listening to legal man on the old radio machine. I think I was out, but I can�t recall. I rather hope it�ll sound like �no limits� by 2 unlimited, seeing as some of you have compared it to dance mucus. I got stranded in Putney on Saturday night. I reckoned I could walk back and make it to work by 10am the next day. Without sleep. Didn�t have to though and I�m going to tell you why. First I got a lift off of a minicab driver to the Brompton Road. He would have delivered me to my door, had I paid in kind. To be honest I didn�t fancy that and was sick of being felt, so I asked to be let out. Then I decided to walk again, growing ever despondent. Bizarrely another minicab driver offered me a lift, and despite the fact that by this point I should really know better, I accepted. He was a top chap though; he took me to Camden, and then gave me the night bus fare. Better than all of this, he didn�t want a shag. If you�ve got any spare props, send them his way. Had a bit of a feline twee fest this lunchtime, I got followed home by a cat, which came inside and made itself at home, and then left with me. Jolly good fun, and a lovely cat too. Previously to my unorthodox journey home on Saturday, myself and a sinisterine who shall remain anonymous were watching the Top Ten Romo thingy on channel 4. It was GRATE. I�m going to buy some Spandau Ballet soon. I�ve already started growing my Phil Oakey fringe. I could never play melody pops properly. God knows I tried, but give me a nice brass instrument anyday. They don�t taste * that * bad either, as long as you�re sparing with the brasso and valve oil. Enough already lixi.x ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sean_hopson at xxx.com Mon Apr 10 20:11:22 2000 From: sean_hopson at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?sean=20hopson?=) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: ooh aah sinistah Message-ID: <20000410191122.29709.qmail@web611.mail.yahoo.com> hello, we have returned from ATP.....as champions the mighty sinister 5-a-side footie team (deep undercover as the slut jockeys) destroyed all opposition in an awesome display of technical ability, strength, stamina and, well, sheer joie de vivre. apart from when i was playing. hopefully s/one of a more literary bent will produce a full match report in the near future, tho' how words will ever describe the sublime skills on display.... maybe we should ask nick hornby ;-) those requiring a momento of captain jim's black and white army's finest hour...i've scanned the CERTIFICATE of ACHIEVEMENT we received....and it's available now. mail me. i'm off to feel smug. has anyone got any ralgex? sean gas.man at btinternet.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david at xxx.uk Mon Apr 10 21:30:47 2000 From: david at xxx.uk (David White) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:30:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ho Hum Message-ID: Greetings people, 3 points to make: 1. I did not read my email until Friday, thus missing the news about the new single being played (D'oh!), and therefore didn't hear it. While I'm thinking about it and without wanting to sound like an old fart, the Evening Session has never been as good since Steve Lurpak took over from Mark Goodier back in the early 90s. 2. When are Teenage Fanclub releasing new stuff, I haven't heard anything about Scotland's 2nd best band for ages and it's about time we had a new album. 3. If anybody is bored they could visit my site www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk and have a go at trying to guess which songs the random lyrics are from. (Random lyrics appear in the top frame of the home page when it loads and you can change them by reloading the page, I think there are 10 in all). An honourable mention will go to whoever gets them all right. PS Leave your answers on the DISCUSSION page and I'll check them (if anybody bothers to do it) and give an honourable mention to anyone who gets them all right! That's all folks! Dave David at belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Colleen at xxx.com Mon Apr 10 21:35:54 2000 From: Colleen at xxx.com (Colleen) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:35:54 -0700 Subject: Sinister: simon smelled gars-funkle Message-ID: <000b01bfa32c$5e93db60$710114ac@colleen> well its been a shloooong time since i have spat out an email..and i think im almost drunk so now is a goos (good ) time. now is goos. i would like to thank the list for jeff first. he visited san francisco about a month ago and i took him under my wing, and he did really well under the alchoholic circumstances. good peoples jeff is. i hope you are all as fortunate as i was to meet him. good guy.(brave guy) hehe. so thank ya. oh, i saw travis sat. night and they were real shmool, good energy..only thing that sucked was that oasis had to be there too. i prescribed myself jack daniels to numb thee pain. went to see luna/mark eitzel a week ago or so and the venue had some electrical issues, the whole entire block lost power so we stood there in the dark for a half hour waiting for the lights to come back on. when they came back on, i got my ass grabbed by a random moron, i think if i were that guy who did it, i would have done it when the lights were off/ i think he was new. oh yeah i saw yo la tengo as well last month and i got famous that night! i snuck off where it said STAFF ONLY to have a cigarette and some mtv/sonicnet guy followed me, and started taking pictures of me and asking me all kinds of questions, and it was funny as hell to see me on the website! there were all these pictures of the band playing, serious..then my drunk ass grinning, smoking a cigarette with a gin and tonic in hand! hee hee! it was a lick! i finally got my magnetic fields-69 loves songs box set, ohh its shmool, so shmool and the great thing is, is that i saw them a few months back and they were just as awesome live which is always exciting. im real glad i have ears. well ive had enough of this trying to type and there is no b&s content but thats not important right now, cause if i talk about how much i cant wait to see them when they tour the west coast, i'll only jinx myself, besides the fact that i'm emailing this list is a reference in itself. time to go oh yeah.. dont forget that while reading the fortune from a fortune cookie, put "in bed" at the end of it, it just sounds better :) and im off.. crackstar colleen www.firetalk.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather-boa at xxx.com Mon Apr 10 22:26:07 2000 From: feather-boa at xxx.com (feather boa) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:26:07 -0700 Subject: Sinister: you thought it was safe to go back in the water Message-ID: but no, fb's back. i'm slightly (well, more than that) drunk on red wine, so please forgive me for complete nonsense. i wish i had gone to atp. but a-levels got in the way, and they will also prevent me from going to glastonbury this year as i have (at least) 2 exams afterwards (both english - beloved and step in case you were wondering.) i want a girlfriend. i am currently extremely lonely and there must be at least one other gay girl on the sini-list. sorry. i think i'm going to melody maker next monday, so i'm going to have a sneak around to see if they've got a copy of legal man i can steal, on the grounds that it's only ian watson that likes them anyway. pip pip, FB X *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toby at xxx.uk Tue Apr 11 00:31:18 2000 From: toby at xxx.uk (Toby Blake) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 00:31:18 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Re: Half Blaked In-Reply-To: sinister-digest's message of Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:42:42 +0100 (GMT/BST) Message-ID: <200004102331.AAA04002@rhymer.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> > But Toby, how could he be "so in touch"/"aware" of his personality > flaws (apart from the big plot changing one), recognise them as > flaws (whilst once again failing to recognise his BIG flaw), choose > to ignore them AND remain charming?? Whilst I am aware the human > psyche is a complex thing and one man's flaw is anothers strong > point, I have little sympathy for someone who is so self aware as to > recognise their own flaws and yet is (at best), too lazy to correct > them. I didn't say I found him particularly charming, but I do think there's something refreshing about a character with personality flaws who is too bloody-minded and lazy to do much about them. It makes a welcome change from hero realises problem is with his own character and corrects it. It's a bit more realistic behaviour and easier (for the more idle among us) to identify with. Or is everyone else on the list engaged in rampant self-improvement? > Then again, who am I to judge? It's a book, I thought it was weak. I > have seen fever pitch, I thought it was weak. I await to be > persuaded about the merits of Nick Hornby. When you say "seen" I presume you mean the film. It's terrible and, as was inevitable, attempts to put a plot to a book that naturally has no plot. In those days, books about football were a lot rarer than today and Fever Pitch was a very intelligently written book about the noble art of kicking a ball about a field. It does a good job of explaining the impossible to explain. About a Boy was shite though, eh? Toby +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Tue Apr 11 00:33:15 2000 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Manvers in dark comedy In-Reply-To: <20000410154621.7310.qmail@web1805.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Sinister, First of all, what is 'manvers'? It sounds like it was supposed to be manoeuvers but got truncated in an interesting way so it ended up like a name from a book by one of the Bronte sisters. Is wine not drunk at concerts? I suppose it's a mixture of old people trying to be young and young people trying to be old, a symptom of both being the drinking of wine at pop music concerts. But wine is better to drink than beer. The singer from Cat Power sounds intriguing, but it's a matter of indirect self-flattery, i.e. I think I'm like that. (If I really were though, I wouldn't go on like this. Does the recognition of egotism masked as self-consciousness get you off charges of both?) Yesterday his best friend teased me for saying 'sorry' a lot. (Well I don't know if they're best friends. They're often together. I find camaraderie between members of the same sex intriguing. Not necessarily homosexuality, but as in a book: Olivier liked Bertrand so much that he was embarrassed to show his preference for him. Or as when PF said that ND was the coolest smoker.) Do you sometimes feel like a character in a book, about to fall for the wrong person, maybe to no consequence in real life, but nonetheless ultimately the sign of a moral failing, for which you'll have to pay in tears? For example, what if he is not only intelligent but competitive and ambitious, as well? But when did kindness ever win hearts? So Neil Robertson wrote me a message in reply to a question about tour dates and called me a lucky guy. After seeing "Boys Don't Cry", I don't think I mind. When Stuart sings of boy-girls, I thought he meant boys who were like girls, but the character in this film, a female with a sexual identity crisis, is called (or calls herself) a boy-girl. When I read Alix Campbell's posts I think of Morvern Callar. Someone recommended that on LLLL, but it was a bit too hard for me. I couldn't go through with it. Keith Watson takes nice photos. The stoplights in Glasgow look nice. Yours, Youn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jnikolaeff at xxx.au Tue Apr 11 03:00:15 2000 From: jnikolaeff at xxx.au (Juliya Nikolaeff) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:30:15 +0930 Subject: Sinister: Why the long face? I'll let you know..... Message-ID: <01BFA3A9.50004A20.jnikolaeff@nexus.edu.au> Hey guys, I haven't posted for a while - I've been too busy enjoying all your emails. But what has prompted me to write today? Besides the fact I am very teary and in need of sympathy, I need your opinion. I met this lovely Irish boy who works at the local irish pub in Adelaide. We spent a lovely night & day together Friday night before last, but as for the weekend just gone, I don't know what's going on ); He has been very busy lately as he gave his notice, but I called him and told him I didn't really mind what time he rocked up at my house as I was pretty much home and not bothered, but he told me Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday (last night) that he would come by and he never did. That's four standups in a row! I feel quite stupid now, but then again if he did not want to see me again, why did he return all my calls? I can understand Friday through Sunday how he could have been too tired as we had this stupid commodore car race all weekend and he was working up to 14 hours a day, but last night he finished at 1am the latest, and promised he'd be there. So this morning I'm telling someone about it and realise he's probably doing it for a reason eg he doesn't want to see me again - but the thing is I'm really upset about this as before now I have not liked someone so much in about three years - my ex broke my heart three years ago and I never really got over it. And with boys before I got sick of them after about 24 hours. Until now. Or is it true you always want the one you can't have? I don't know. Well now I have poured out my heart to you guys and feel even worse, sympathy would be appreciated.... Poor me, Juliya "I always cry in movies doesn't take that much to move me" -Career Girls +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Tue Apr 11 00:13:57 2000 From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:13:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: NYC looper troubles... Message-ID: <200004110223.WAA12160@s1.optonline.net> list abuse! but it's my first time, so it should be okay... does anyone have an extra ticket for the looper show? my parents were wankers and made me miss buying mine... i'll love you forever, and even pay you lots of money! (read: double the ticket price, anything! sexual favors, yeah!) thanks, dearies! - adam aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lofemo at xxx.com Tue Apr 11 04:09:44 2000 From: lofemo at xxx.com (kevin-m) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:09:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: from randomness with love (recording:looper live) Message-ID: <20000411030944.11333.qmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> hey, if anyone is interested, here is a recording of the last looper show in toronto (july 19,1999) http://www.geocities.com/lofemo001 you can download the file (real audio, 12mb) or stream it. it is ~45min. i apologize to the few people on the list who were expecting a tape of the show in the mail. the events of the last few months have distracted me. much love, kevin. lofemo at hotmail dot com www.members.tripod.com/lofemo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.alder at xxx.uk Tue Apr 11 09:10:16 2000 From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:10:16 +0100 (GMT/BST) Subject: Sinister: Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:09:21 +0100 Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F33531A0@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk> set sinister mail -- This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Apr 11 11:28:10 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:28:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hope this suits everyone! Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22DB39F8@SERVER1> All I've been able to think of since spring sprung is the first London sinister picnic of the year. So, after consultations with several of England and Scotland's most dedicated listees (and Alastair Cook - yes, ladies, he will be there in person), unless anyone has any objections or suggestions...Saturday 20th May, Primrose Hill (natch), 2pm till we all pass out... Please drop me an email if this is good for you, bad for you, whatever, it's not yet written in stone - and if any of our further-flung cohorts can come to London for the do, it would be just fab - organise your summer holidays around it! :-) I'm going to write a proper letter soon, promise... Mark the crackerboy xxx ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wayne_fortune at xxx.com Tue Apr 11 13:01:40 2000 From: wayne_fortune at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Wayne=20Fortune?=) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 05:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: B6358 (Hawick 10) Message-ID: <20000411120140.29057.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> Hi everyone, Almost a week after being freed from the Nursery I've managed to overcome my eternal shyness and actually use my new voice! There is a certain novelty surrounding it. But boy were those bricks good fun... I suppose this constitutes list abuse (sorry!). Lots of love Ba Ba __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.alder at xxx.uk Tue Apr 11 16:22:44 2000 From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:22:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Red shoes, no knickers Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F33531C3@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk> Hello! I'm home! (Lucy slams the door behind her, dumps her bags in the hallway and sits down for a nice cup of tea and a slice of cake before getting down to the tedious business of sorting out her washing) I had a lovely week away. I sipped lemon tea and caught the sun on my cheeks on a terrace at the edge of Lake Como. I licked and slurped my way through all sorts of flavours of ice cream. I remembered why I was so fond of old friends. I shopped until I dropped. We had a little pole-dancing competition to liven up a long and tedious train journey and I won (photographic evidence exists, but I'm telling you now that it will never appear in the sinister gallery). My friend and I came to an amicable agreement that she could have Paolo Maldini and I could have Gabriel Battistuta (I know he wears an alice band, but those legs make up for it. Besides, Maldini's cheekbones are freakish and have you seen what his father looks like?) We didn't allow ourselves to buy black shoes, so I bought some bright red mary janes. We gave ourselves comedy names and laughed when dirty old men chatted us up. We kept our real names and smiled sweetly when dark-eyed boys who smelled nice when you got close chatted us up. I'm still in Italy in my head, even though I'm sat at my desk now. Sigh. I was a bit worried that the weather would be inclement for the ATP people, but then I remembered you'd doubtless be spending all your time in the pub, so what would a little bit of rain or snow matter? I'm sure you had a lovely time and I sort of wish I'd been there, but then I'm sort of glad I was in Italy too, you understand? I'm not sure I want to think about how the Sinister team's football legs measure up to Battistuta's. I'm sure Stu M's football legs are lovely though. Does he have legs of sex or is it just the arms? Or was it too cold for him to contemplate exposing his limbs to the elements? Mark, I'd love to come to your pickernick. Count me in. S'all for now Juicy Lucy -- This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dontlookatmyaddressnaughty at xxx.com Wed Apr 12 00:13:31 2000 From: dontlookatmyaddressnaughty at xxx.com (Elvis ...) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 00:13:31 ICT Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #109 Message-ID: <20000411171331.70399.qmail@hotmail.com> so then i got up and went to the breakfast cereal place and i picked up a rather innocent looking packet of tescos choco flakes. then i nearly strted to cry and felt really sorry for this box, because aside form having an incredibly bizarre 60's multi colour hippo with a horn on it. it says. this lovely catchphgrase. ''they're chocolatey!'' oh dear me. sympathy. i feel sorry for your cheeky hens a bit too mike-o err. i heard legal man though. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Apr 11 18:38:50 2000 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:38:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: MUZQ for boyz Message-ID: Starting to react to the physical stimuli coming from the surroundings, arising from numbness,exhaustion,spottiness... I have not really awakened till todays' afternoon, and my brain nearly allowed my mouth and larynx to emit some coherent suggestion at our Tuesdays research group meetings.Perhaps all this post-rock equations have been already digested and transformed into Tchebyshev expansions.But is it emo/slowcore/massive pedal-pushing only for boys? If we had a look about ATP,at least in the Sinister section,it seemed to be.Just equations,boo. And skating.And arms of sex with veins.Uggghhh. As worried as i was on Thursday afternoon about my close incursion back into teenagerdom as consequence of work, I thought it would be good to revise first,given my irresponsible and sulky behaviour.And bitchy,very bitchy too...But I had no Britney Spears to play when I got home and played Foxgloves instead. But it was 'great'.I even learnt to spell. Love to all, especially to etimologists,entomologists and epistemologists. Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From FoxInASnow at xxx.com Tue Apr 11 19:30:09 2000 From: FoxInASnow at xxx.com (FoxInASnow at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:30:09 EDT Subject: Sinister: music for girls Message-ID: <12.3020fef.2624c931@aol.com> When i saw a subject line "muzq for boys" i hoped it would be some kind of punny Baxendale email, but it wasn't after all. I have this Baxendale ep that's fabulous, it made me want to run out and buy Abba records, which made all my friends look at me funny, but i didn't care cos i was dancing so hard. Ahhhh. I found a copy of "Winter Wooksie," if that's the right name, and it's oh so nice. That's going to be on a forthcoming single? When will this single be coming forth? And when do i get to hear "Lonely Man"? Jessica +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From punkboy at xxx.uk Tue Apr 11 19:34:22 2000 From: punkboy at xxx.uk (Stuart Flanagan) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 19:34:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Stuart Murdoch's ATP gossip Message-ID: <000c01bfa3f7$1199b980$cd1d883e@punkboy.freeserve.co.uk> How do Like quite a few of you here I was at the ATP festival over the weekend. All in all, not a patch on last year's Bowlie - none of the friendly atmosphere, plus the vast majority of the bands were, frankly rather crap. But still the weather was fantastic on the Saturday, and it was a brilliant day down at the beach. Myself and my 3 chalet-mates were interviewed for some new website called, I think, "k-grind.com", the bloke said it would be up in a few weeks. For some reason he was really keen on understanding how we got into music, and if we were persecuted for liking alternative music. Yeh, I'm often stoned for wearing a Hefner badge.... Anyway, as far as bands go, so many were such a great disappointment, especially the appalling Sonic Youth, who persevered with 4 fifteen minute tuneles drone dirge improvisations, even though no-one was interested.. However, delight was to be found in the heart-stopping Sigur Ros and the wonderful Alfie, who seemed to charm everyone who saw them. But undoubtedly the highlight for me was being served by Stuart Murdoch at the merchandise stall. After gathering ourselves together after being quvering wrecks in the presence of such stardom, we asked him what he thought of the line-up compared to last year, he said most of the bands weren't his cup of tea, but he did enjoy Sigur Ros. As far as tours go, he said B&S would be going to the States first, and then some UK dates in late summer. I asked him if he'd be playing Belfast (my hometown), and he said he definitely wanted to, what with Richard's Snow Patrol connections. Also, I was talking to Johnny Quinn from Snow Patrol, and he said he's bringing Chris & Richard back for a return DJ set in the Belfast Limelight next month, so watch out for that. One finally thing, was anyone here on Sinister in the Covent garden Rough Trade shop on Mon at about 3pm ? I saw a chap with glasses, brown jacket and shoulder slung bag there with an upside down B&S prefect badge. Just curious Hope this informs and entertains Stuart Flanagan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Apr 11 22:13:55 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: so, em... what you doin' tonight? Message-ID: <20000411211355.26969.qmail@web616.mail.yahoo.com> Hiya one and all. Okay, I haven't had a cool dream for a while.. I had one the other night about me being a vampire and I bit a dogf and so I had a vampire dog that was impossible to control, but a muzzle was rather good. On the dog. And I got a job, doing not very much other than listen to juicy titbits of gossip in an office reception at the gyle in Edinburgh. you'll prolly see me about 1pm, wandering about, ears plugged into tigermilk, smiling to myself and looking dreamy. Thats cos its my lunch hour then. And as for the sticker idea. *DROP HINT!*. Well, if jeepster/ banchory/ B+S refuse, I'm just gonna have to go out, buy a polaroid sticky camera film and camera thingy, and stalk stu M for a bit. And then any other stalkers can swap my stickers of Stu M for theirs of Isobel Campbell. Or Chris Geddes. Or the other ones. (I said that on purpose....) So, its in B+S best interests really. otherwise we'll stalk them, eh, kids? ;) And you think I'm joking... Anyway, if you reckon its a good idea, you can of course VOTE for it. I have a voting poll ready and waiting at my website (not trying to plug the website, honest, I'm bored of it and needing to revamp it, although I got a new animation of Doctor Evil being flushed down the bogs...) so go to http://www.geocities.com/idleberry/isobel.html oh yeah, and I got some wicked piccies of Isobels style guru if you look closely.... And what about beanie baby B+S? cuddle with Chris? snuggle with Stevie? Sleep with Stuart? have your wicked way with isobel? etc etc etc??? anyway, you decide. I'm off to bed now, to do other things I won't even go into.... cherrypippos, idleberry ===== http://www.geocities.com/idleberry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Apr 11 22:31:58 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: IMPORTANT NOTICE Message-ID: <20000411213158.1209.qmail@web613.mail.yahoo.com> I'm posting again (so soon? you lucky little things!) cos I've had a few e mails and comments about my sticker idea, all good, but please don't petition jeepster records about the sticker thing. David Kitchen will just go into one of his girlie sulks with me otherwise, and I can't be bothered for that. Hes worse than my mum with PMT. He'll probably go into a girlie strop cos I mentioned that he goes into girlie sulks at all, now... instead, pester Neil Robertson. cos he doesn't know where I live, and I can hide easier from him. you can e mail him through the B+S website, or here, or wherever he happens to be.... hes omnipitent, he is.... possibly. Anyway, jeepster is a record label, not a bits and pieces related to B+S label. sorry. thanks for the support though. you make me feel listened to. cherryhippos idleberry ===== http://www.geocities.com/idleberry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kev at xxx.uk Tue Apr 11 23:18:38 2000 From: kev at xxx.uk (Kev) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:18:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: buggin' Message-ID: <004801bfa403$e7b020c0$239793c3@oemcomputer> Ouch, I feel all shaken. I just had to forcibly evict un unwelcome tenant - well squatter technically. I might have considered letting it stay if I thought it'd cough up some rent. I mean, as a species I have nothing against them really - they keep the flies away, after all, but I simply can't be comfortable when there's a two inch wide (I kid you not) hairy as hell arachnid is glaring down at me while I'm trying to be all sensible and mature. I just get to thinking about where it goes at night and what it does when I'm sleeping and eurgh I can't bare it. So I have to try and get it - not kill it you understand (what the hell would I do it once it was dead - display it? I think not) but just somehow make it be elsewhere. I have no idea how something so big gets to be so fast, really I don't. I didn't knock it off the wall, really, the bastard jumped. It's wise to a gurning semi drunk twenty something - it's off and under the TV stand before I get to practice my velvet charm and entice it into the pint glass. Well, I got it in the end and it's now menacing small mammals in the garden, but it didn't come quietly. I swear I could feel the weight of this thing in the glass - it was all jumping up against the side all the way down the stairs. Eurgh. I'm all bugged out. I really didn't want to piss it off. I mean I don't want it to come back with all it's mates... Er...that's it really. Sorry. I'll try to be more useful later on. Always buy the Big Issue from a badged vendor, and eat your greens. Love and fun in foreign fields Kev (the everso slightly shaken) ps. dutonin or duntonin or whoever was being such a charmer the other night - mail me? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lost_madflowr at xxx.com Wed Apr 12 01:13:47 2000 From: lost_madflowr at xxx.com (lost madflowr) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:13:47 PDT Subject: Sinister: "doubled up with longing at 3 a.m." - radio show about being dumped Message-ID: <20000412001347.25008.qmail@hotmail.com> okay. well here i am dumped again. for almost the same reasons as the past few times. and i think i'm pretty loveable and all but oh well. um, regardless i'm trying to deal. to deal, i've been listening constantly to the new trembling blue stars album. it simply blows my mind every time i listen to it. shite. "ripples" is my fave song at the moment. oh man oh man. it's so good to know that there are other people who feel as purely crap as i do right now. it helps a lot. in any case, he's on both sinister and the indie pop list, so hello _ _ _ _ . the reason i'm posting is because i'm going to do a special madflowr hour [my radio show] on thursday from 3:00 until 5:00 pm [eastern standard time]. you can listen at http://wgmu.gmu.edu with real audio. it's going to be a dumped special i do believe. so songs about break ups and other things. i'm actually looking for suggestions, so if you know of some really great song to help one cope with a break up, then please drop me a line. and if you're going through similar shite, maybe it would help to listen to my show. regardless, i'm taking boyfriend applications now. hah. evol, madflowr p.s. the title of this special madflowr hour show is "doubled up with longing at 3 a.m." taken from 'ripples' by trembling blue stars. "doesn't help to admit that i get sad...but i get sad." -sad mud song (heavy vegetable) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jules at xxx.cx Wed Apr 12 01:28:45 2000 From: jules at xxx.cx (Julie) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:28:45 -0400 Subject: Sinister: First post, parrots, blood and poetry. Message-ID: <001901bfa416$10ebfc40$aa587a80@jas277.nyu.edu> I am NOT having a good day. You know how some days, the more you try to accomplish anything, the more things just go horribly awry? Well, this morning I decided to do the dishes. That's a noble task. Practical. Well, half an hour later, there's silverware all over the floor, a cat under the table, a mirror smashed on the floor and me bleeding on my keyboard. I thought it would be a good time for me to make my first post to Sinister. Many of you know me. Some of you I live with. Well, one of you. Some of you I see a lot. Some of you I see at shows. Some of you I see when you come visit New York. Oh, and probably several of you know me from cozy #sinister. I've never posted before because I had nothing...excuse, me but what the fuck is the cat doing? Sigh. I'm so sick of this cat. He scratches and bites and chews on Megan's giant TWATTYBUS poster in the living room. If he were my cat, I'd just throw him out the window. I'd like to see Ghostface Killah land on his feet from 8 stories up. Anyway. Um, before, I had nothing to say. Then Damon passed along this damned parrot and it's been crapping all over the place and now IT HAS TO GO. Here's my poem. It's by Nicanor Parra. The Poems Of The Pope I They just elected me Pope: I'm the most famous man in the world! II Now I'm at the top of the ecclesiastical profession and I can die in peace III The Cardinals are angry because I don't treat them like I used to too solemn? but I'm the Pope goddamn it... IV First thing tomorrow I'll move into the Vatican V The title of my address: How to Succeed in the Ecclesiastical Profession VI Congratulations are pouring in every newspaper in the world has my picture on the front page and one thing's for sure: I look much younger than I really am VII Ever since I was a boy I wanted to be Pope why's everybody so surprised I worked like a dog to get what I wanted VIII Holy Mother of God I forgot to bless the multitude! Now, I'm putting this parrot back in its cage and sending it by Pony Express to...WILL PORTER OF TEXAS!!! Wheeeee! Please forgive any preceding misspellings, but I can't use the middle finger of my left hand, I cut it on a SMASHED MIRROR earlier. And honeymum, forgive my occasional harsh language, I'm in a bit of a state. BUT I'M THE POPE GODDAMN IT! -Julie "It's only pop music, why are you asking me all these questions?!" -Robbie Williams +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Wed Apr 12 02:45:23 2000 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:45:23 -0400 Subject: Sinister: attack of the savage, flesh eating cat Message-ID: does anyone else still try to write to ph.ed.ac.uk? i have that one imprinted in my brain for some reaosn. i don't think i've written to the list in awhile, but julie's post earlier inspired me, seeing as i have my own troubles with a cat with a taste for human flesh. right now it is playing with a penny. anything can amuse cat. and mai wrote too. so wonders never ceasing i will too. peter miller, this one is for you. brian winters and i went to go see the daily show yesterday, and guess who the guest was? yes, roger daltry. and before you say anything he may not be as good as the great pete, but we didn't get to pick, ok? just be happy with what you got. geez. so yeah, b&s touring. i wonder if i can bring the real minka to the show? she's a big fan too. and she's a very good kitty (unlike certain flesh eaters i know). maybe she could sit in the bass drum? i don't think richard bangs it much, so she'd be fine. she likes enclosed spaces anyway. right now she's in russia, so i'm sure she needs something to look forward too after the long trip home. how good are the tindersticks? (and before you smart asses start answering, that's a rhetorical question). i'm listening to city sickness right now. it's one of those songs that you can just pull out of the woodwork and remember what it was like the first time you heard it. by the way, for a book suggestion, try reading the basic eight by daniel handler. sure, it's the same old high school girl kills boyfriend, but the characters seem real, like cool people to be friends with, some may remind you of your less homicidal friends. and daniel handler is currently playing acordion with the magnetic fields wonder of wonders. i swear i'm goign to add that to my page. well a review or something, his bio is up. what more do you people wnat??? that's what i thought. so ok, i'm going. i need to write poetry about the tragedy of my existence and all that shit. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu are we not men? we are magnetic fields. http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ updated 8/5/99 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From xstensionchord at xxx.net Wed Apr 12 02:59:20 2000 From: xstensionchord at xxx.net (Chad Curtis) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:59:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: How to make a loop. Message-ID: <5745-38F3D878-3379@storefull-621.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Am I being an ass or has reading " this may count as list abuse " the last 12 times become fucking monotonous and boring. Subject heading that foreshadows it being trash or abuse will increase your chances of getting deleted much more higher. OK, sorry, just got a lil' picky I guess. Went to the Looper/Flaming Lips gig with local list member Topher. (very good guy) Looper sounded great and I got some groovy shots, I hope they will come out good, if so I'll get someone to scan and post them maybe. I wished their set was longer though, and it seemed to me and Toph that the Flaming Lips sorta downplayed Looper, poking at their accents and whatnot. The vcr projector amplified the gig. Very fun. I swallowed too much confetti ( I plan to mail miss velocity some confetti and pics.) and almost got hit in the head by the Flaming Lips bassists headstock (seems to me he could at least stand up when he didn't have to play the keys at all!) . Looper's live sound was better, the Flaming Lips got too flabby here and there. Also, Looper's screen wasn't as interactive with the dynamics in the songs, but very fun with the head hitting and the looping school. I must say I was very impressed by Looper and plan to support them bunches in the future. Tons of observations, but I'll stop on this one. Velcro shoes seemed abundant, Are these coming back as the future style? :O) Chad /\ Lliam /\ Curtis +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From porterww at xxx.edu Wed Apr 12 06:15:53 2000 From: porterww at xxx.edu (Will Porter) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 00:15:53 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: Gee Ricky, I'm real sorry your mom blew up. In-Reply-To: <001901bfa416$10ebfc40$aa587a80@jas277.nyu.edu> Message-ID: Well, I wasn't going to say anything, as I haven't got anything to say (which will be abundantly clear in a few sentences), but then Julie threw that damned parrot at me and now I'm stuck with it and it keeps repeating everything I say, like the little brother I never had, only with more birdshitty newspapers and fewer boogers and considerably broader employment of such phrases as "fucking twat-bird" and "I've got your fucking cracker right here." And so now you're all stuck with a poem of my choosing. God, the power. But first: a shiny nickel (albeit a virtual one, I'm too poor to be distributing actual nickels) to the first person who can identify the book from whence I extracted the following quotation (two nickels if the quotation in context made you cry like a wee child with a skinned knee, which is exactly what it did to me) (inicidentally, it's more poignant if you know going into the quotation that the woman who is speaking is named Alison and the man to whom she's speaking is named Nicholas.): "That reminds me. A crossword clue. I saw it months ago. Ready?" I nodded. "'She's all mixed up, but the better part of Nicholas'... six letters." I worked it out, smiled at her. "Did the clue end in a full-stop or a question-mark?" "It ended in my crying. As usual." Why, I'm whimpering just thinking of it. Which is par for the course lately. I've been awfully weepy these past few weeks, and I'm not sure why. I'm usually so naturally bouyant. My class that meets one tuesday evening is like some long forgotten medieval boredom torture. I'm about to fidget right out of my pants waiting for the new album and single. Awright. The poem. It's by Raymond Carver, who is dead. Deschutes River This sky, for instance: closed, gray, but it has stopped snowing so that is something. I am so cold I cannot bend my fingers. Walking down to the river this morning we surprised a badger tearing a rabbit. Badger had a bloody nose, blood on its snout up to its sharp eyes: prowess is not to be confused with grace. Later, eight mallard ducks fly over without looking down. On the river Frank Sandmeyer trolls, trolls for steelhead. He has fished this river for years but February is the best month he says. Snarled, mittenless, I handle a maze of nylon. Far away -- another man is raising my children, bedding my wife bedding my wife. I have decided that I could just read Raymond Carver's poems forever. I've decided that before, too. But I forget things. That said, I hurl this rude, rude parrot into western Pennsylvania, specifically the custody of one Marie Elia. Do your worst, little arsonist. love will (not the new one anymore) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GardeningAtNight at xxx.com Wed Apr 12 12:10:23 2000 From: GardeningAtNight at xxx.com (GardeningAtNight at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:10:23 EDT Subject: Sinister: a horse of another color.. what a lame subject. Message-ID: I've been lurking but still reading posts. I especially enjoy the ones recounting ATP and Struan the merchie boy. After seeing the Smashing Pumpkins Monday and almost being crushed to death by braindead sweaty teenagers, I have a newfound appreciation for bands like B&S. I've been spoiled by tame twee shows for the last year so I was unprepared for that night. This afternoon I'm leaving to go to Toronto with my school orchestra for a competition and to see Niagara Falls and stuff. I know that it will be grate. But the thing is, to put me in the mood I just went to put in Dog on Wheels from the boxset. I hadn't listened to it yet since the Jeepster imports were quicker to grab. But I opened it and was completely disillusioned, for the disc is not mustard colored but a faint pale icky yellow. It was very alienating.. you come to find comfort in certain things, you know, and this was one of them. I noticed they updated the website URL which I can understand, but the new color is just ick. I know it's silly to whine about but I'm in a whining mood. I'm printing pages and pages about neurofibromatosis so I can work on my biology assignment on the long as hell bus ride. I don't understand how anyone could be interested in this stuff. I'm glad someone is though, or else we'd be dead. I'm paranoid that I've inherited millions of genetic diseases now, thanks to this class. I've been checking for irregular moles and cafe-au-lait spots.. I knew that science would do me no good. There was something else I wanted to say but I can't remember it. Jen, did you get my letter yet? Be good kids. Overflow my mailbox. love Samantha +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Wed Apr 12 12:43:36 2000 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:43:36 EDT Subject: Sinister: a lame subject of another color.. no horse though Message-ID: Samantha says, << I've been lurking but still reading posts. >> Oo err. Me too. Hello again all in sinister land... robyn, i really will write you a good letter soon. I've been out of the house for a week and bleached my hair. People make the same four jokes over and over again.. goldilocks is popular, so is blondie. But I'm no Debbie Harry. When my mother and sister were driving up the road to the house, my sister leaned out the window and yelled "Look, there's a dirty hippie on the porch!" I didn't even look up from my wood carving. Does that make me apathetic? again, samantha: <> that's what I'm playing now. I like the color of the cd, actually. But I like the music more. String Bean Jean.... Excuse me. I have a small splinter of something in my index finger. It's terribly irksome.. one of those splinters that just tingle horribly when you brush it across something. It's making typing very obnoxious. Non-new Will says: <> Me too. except replace the part "one tuesday evening" with "Monday wednesday and friday" Everything else is true just like it is. Is anyone else in their sophomore year of school and just completely desirous of dropping out? I just don't think i can finish up the last three weeks of school. I'm completely serious, and not trying to be fake-depressed or pretentious. i'm just so tired of books. I can focus on anything but school. If anyone else has felt like this and still not dropped out, please tell me the secret. <> apparantly. I used to have to wear them as a child and was mocked because my shoes didn't "pump up" or do anything interesting. Humorously enough, i also wore corduroy and plaid shirts as a wee lad. I pretty much dress the same now, only the clothes are bigger. <> I do believe that Julie's post was twelve times more interesting and 30% more chaotic than my first post. My my. and I really liked the poem about the pope. Although my enjoyment may be tempered by the fact that I'm not Catholic. Hello Julie, it's nice to make your electronic acquaintance madflower of the blue madflower shirt says <> is there actually paperwork involved? Doubled up with longing at 3 AM is one of the best best best lines I have ever heard. I don't even have to hear the song to like it, if the lyrics are that good. Does that sound odd? all i mean by that is that if the words are that good I know it will move me..just like you can tell that some songs are just tuneful with not much personal meaning to the words.. Well, anyway, i hope all is well for everyone.. austrian dogs still suck dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brandtpfundak at xxx.com Wed Apr 12 13:55:32 2000 From: brandtpfundak at xxx.com (Brandt Fundak) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 05:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: What a "Manver" is Message-ID: <20000412125532.15084.qmail@web1803.mail.yahoo.com> A "Manver" is what you get when you try to spell the word manoevers (with the o and e being scrunched together as one character) and the oe doesn't stick. I tried a trick to get it to work and the bloody Yahoo! Mail didn't fall for it. So the message should have been "manoevers in dark comedy" since that Cleveland Cat Power show was all about dark comedy. Back to our regularly scheduled programming. Brandt ===== "Selma, Jub Jub is fantastic! He's everywhere you want to be!" --Troy McClure __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox at xxx.com Wed Apr 12 14:24:28 2000 From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:24:28 GMT Subject: Sinister: *Another* Sunny Day? Alternative ATP Message-ID: <20000412132429.57041.qmail@hotmail.com> Sitting here in my safe European home, I noted that Stuart F had said: Like quite a few of you here I was at the ATP festival over the weekend. All in all, not a patch on last year's Bowlie - none of the friendly atmosphere, plus the vast majority of the bands were, frankly rather crap. Hey, come on, kids, lighten up. It was great stuff. Here are a few highlights picked at random: 1) *Meeting Andy Rourke in the Queen Vic pub*. The hair's changed, the musical style stays the same, as do the 80s jeans. It could only be him. I asked him about being overpowered by funk. He said he'd never been a punk. It was loud in there. 2) *Stereolab on Friday night*. They showed there was a lot more to them than that enigmatic Franglais retro-futura schtick. Grunge, for starters. They're also a band that make you *think* as well as just vibrate. I came away with a new take on House of Lords reform. 3) *Anticipating What The New B&S Album Will Sound Like*. Once we got together (having recognized each other thanks to the badges), we just couldn't stop! We came up with some crazy ideas. I just can't wait to hear 'I Fought In A War'. Rumour is it's heavy. Kind of like Stereolab. 4) *Victory of Team NME in the 5-a-side Tournament*. It was great to see some 'indie' people snatch the prize from all the 'football lads'. Their main rivals, the beery and blokeish Slot Jockey (ugh! horrid name!!), had some fine individual talents, but they made the mistake of appointing John Toshack manager. He just can't handle stars, you see: he's OK at small regional outfits where he can foster ethnic, anti-metropolitan togetherness, but put him in with a few primadonnas and he blows his top. When the lad Cook said he'd only be a sub, Tosh made the fatal error - yet again! - of saying he was playing from the start or taking the first bus back to Rye. Scenes ensued. You'd think Tosh would have learned after the Real experience, but no. Telepathic, yes; good man-manager, no. 5) *Rolling Stones Covers*. For too long, contemporary bands have shyed away from the legacy of the Stones, as though in some kind of Anxiety-of-Influence denial syndrome. But at last that vibe broke cover: and where better than at ATP? There was Sigur Ros' 'Lady Jane'; The Chemistry Experiment's 'You're Just A Baby'; Delgadoes' '19th Nervous Breakdown' (with 'breakdown' bass part played on a couple of violins!); Martin Carr's late-night solo acoustic 'Bitch'; Sonic Youth's 'She's The Boss' (OK, a Mick number really - but close enough for free pedal impro action); and Mogwai's 'You Got Me Rocking' - a real left-field choice to end the whole shebang, with Ian Stewart (!!) on keyboards stage left. So c'mon kids (to quote the Radleys!), realize that we have a top music scene vibe and we'd better 'use it or lose it'. !! One Barbara Ellen There's only one Barbara Ellen ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geoff at xxx.uk Wed Apr 12 16:52:16 2000 From: geoff at xxx.uk (Geoff Sheridan) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:52:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Victory of team NME????????????????????? In-Reply-To: <20000412132429.57041.qmail@hotmail.com> References: <20000412132429.57041.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: I JUST CAN'T STAND HERE and let our boys be abused!! Pinefox, whilst beautiful in his/her cheery manner, was rather less than au fait with the facts. >4) *Victory of Team NME in the 5-a-side Tournament*. Slot Jockey won. It was a legendary victory for the sinister kids, who were playing under the name of that little known indie beat combo. >It was great to see some 'indie' people snatch the prize from all >the 'football lads'. >Their main rivals, the beery and blokeish Slot Jockey (ugh! horrid name!!) Ali Cooke, The boy Trousers, Sean, Jim, Martin Robinson, Richard and Rozzer - nearly all of this parish - and FOR FUCK'S SAKE Stuart Murdoch were all playing for the 'Jockeys. Pinefox is right that it was a victory for the kids, 'cos we stuffed the NME, which, as everyone knows is *shite*. Massive props to Ali and Rozzer for the winning goals, and Struan, bless him, although he was _a bit shit_, it was certainly good to have him on the team. Oh, and here is some information about ATP and future versions (eg Bowlie 3) of dubious origin: Tortoise (who will be picking bands for Bowlie 3) are sniffing after kraftwerk and Neil Young. Shellac are curating in 2002, with loads of Albini's old muckers on the provisional wish list. Tons of stuff from the Stage One sets has been getting aired by Peelie and Lamaq. The Chemistry Experiment have been blessed by Peelie playing their record. At the wrong speed. Lamacq also mentioned the Slot Jockeys... And now I'm going to. They were *grate*. á bientot geoff xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From strappingarab at xxx.com Wed Apr 12 17:07:42 2000 From: strappingarab at xxx.com (robert smith) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:07:42 PDT Subject: Sinister: cured Message-ID: <20000412160742.96011.qmail@hotmail.com> hello once again fellow sinisterians, i have now been on the list for a month or so now and i think its about time that i came clean. despite my name (which is my real one) i am not the robert smith famous for astounding hair, lipstick and student disco classics. dissapionting i know but i've learned to live with it. i think that the picnic idea is smashing count me in. nearly friday, so nearly in love robert p.s. i don't suppose any of you go to middlesex university as i can't seem to find many indie fans there. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Wed Apr 12 18:43:17 2000 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:43:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Isn't it great to be alive? Sometimes. Message-ID: <38F4B5B5.AB6CF5C@cs.strath.ac.uk> I look like a twat walking around the streets of Glasgow in the freezing, pissing rain with a big tomato sunburnt face. I do not care. Some picture postcard sunsets from the weekend. Saturday, Midday. There's a Murdoch running around, naked except for a few inches of paper thin fabric betwixt waist and thigh. His tufty ginger chest hair blows in the wind. His stomach muscles are surprisingly taught for a man of his years. Far too few girls are present but swooning still takes place. No-one has a camera. Saturday, Early afternoon. Who the hell are Slot Jockey? Hey, they've just tanked the huge security guards 5-1. This could be the start of something... Saturday, half an hour after early afternoon. It's too hot outside, so a boy spends what he fully believes to be his final moments lying on a pub sofa. He drinks coke, which is too expensive. Outside laughter is heard. He wills himself back from the brink, though never fully recovers. Saturday night, 'round midnight. Perhaps later. "Get out of my chalet, I'm going to bed" are the first words uttered by some old moaner. Many believe him to be Aidan Moffat, though he is much less coherent and it isn't his birthday. Beside me on the bed lies an old man with stupid ginger hair who apparently used to be someone. The Doo Badleys or something. He is from Thurso and demands drugs. I quite like him. Sunday morning, 6am. There's a Pinefox on the beach, and he's looking like he owns the place. By 8am he does. A shop assistants song is found alive and well beneath a sand dune, and much rejoicing takes place. A flute plays Daphne and Celeste's greatest hits. The kids are all twee fuckers. Thank Christ. A broken heart string won't stop them now, for the world is singing. This is the most important feeling in the world. This is the good stuff. This is Sunday, far too early. A boy fears death for the second time, but is willing to watch the Slot Jockeys (still no idea) play their second round match against Fat Cat records. No-one knows what Fat Cat records do. Spirits are lifted when a girl is discovered in goal. Despite much persausion, the boy does not start the match. He realises the entire weekend is an attempt to murder him, instigated by a bald Scottish dwarf. He hates bald Scottish dwarves. Something strange then occurs. While watching from the sidelines he gets the crazy idea that perhaps he could play after all. The boy is a fool. He scores because of the simple fact that the other team has a girl in goals. The Slot Jockey's win 5-0, although one of them was a refereeing error. The refere is an idiot. Sunday, not quite so early. Consideration is given to throwing the semi-final and taking the money offered by The Delgados, but wallets give in to egos and the Jockey's throw themselves into the brink. That is after waiting an age for their more famous opponents to finish an interview. The game is tight, with the best football of the tournament on offer. The Slots come through 2-1. Someone calls Stuart Henderson of The Delgados a pathetic loser. Stuart Henderson of the Delgados is the nicest man in the world. Sunday, 10 minutes after the semi-final. The ENEMY (some prefer to call them NME) are fresher, having not played since the quarter finals (a bye to the final). They won that match 8-0, and want 10 in the final. They have a former semi-pro, apparently. Several tired indie-kids stand in their way. Four of them have been here before. They remember. It will not happpen again. The SJs go 1-0, however it's soon 1-1. Half-time. A mad hustler acts under orders to get the Mad Dog to play. He lives up to his rep, biting the NME's ankles and giving them the hardest time of their worthless lives. 2-1 Jockeys. If they can just hold on........2-2. Inspired by Murdoch's encouragement, a captain's example from Jim and the incredible support, Rozzer is put through by the ginger singer-songwriter and tucks the ball straight up the journalist's smug bad loser arses. 3-2. Beers all round, and the glory of the red plastic bucket trophy. It doesn't get better than this. Stuart Murdoch is called "a spooner" by an uncouth, rude drunk. I love uncouth, rude drunks. I wish I'd seen Sonic Youth just so I could have fully appreciated Jim's representation of how bad they were, which involved pulling his shirt over his head and banging it against a wooden post until we asked him to stop. Everyone buy Trousercuts, not for the rubbish writing of course but for the free cd. The Clientele continue to sound like they come from another world, which they must do as nothing in this world can be that good. A cathedral should be build somewhere in south London just to play the songs of Pam Berry on 24-hour continous loop. And at 8am yesterday morning 'Waking Up To Nothing' by The Visitors made me cry more than any other song, ever. In the world. This is due to 3 reasons. 1. I am really soft. 2. It was listened to in the short gap between a 9 hour journey and an 8 hour sleep. 3. The fat, ignorant drunk behind the mic. Sadly, it was mostly the latter. I want it to be next year. I hate waiting. I can't believe Mark organises his picnic plans to suit me. I'm glad he does. Alasdair Neil Cook, of which there is only one, and yes he is shite. Cheers David. xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Wed Apr 12 20:31:50 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:31:50 -0400 Subject: Sinister: And What Costume Shall A Poor Girl Wear...? Message-ID: <200004121532_MC2-A0E7-E9A0@compuserve.com> Howdy Friends, More post ATP Muse-ings: Playing Songs For Children Richard Colburn was featured in Radio 1's Lanarkshire documentary on Monday night, but I don't think he said anything especially memorable. New Looper single Mondo '77 got played on Lamacq last night: a catchy upbeat number, but didn't have time to record it because of frantic tape shuffling so as not to miss any of the ATP live stuff. God Bless John Ravenscroft Peel for playing the Papa M heartstopper for me. Voodoo Chalet Noted on the path in front of the door of a top Disques International Jeepster executive's chalet at Camber: a row of 4 fairy cakes; next a broad line of a white crystalline substance; then a squashed football filled with more of the white stuff with a peeled banana protruding from it. Fucking huge computer indeed :) The Boy Next Door Who's Famous For Showing His Chest (*) I forgot to tell you that when Struan played football earlier on Sunday afternoon he was only wearing his shorts. I just thought that all you Ice Princesses should know... (* Apologies to Trousers for this blatant plagiarism) Sarah was also present. Ooh-Aah-Sinistah! David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trollopinpaisley at xxx.com Wed Apr 12 22:52:38 2000 From: trollopinpaisley at xxx.com (Valerie Solanas) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:52:38 -0800 Subject: Sinister: what's your take on Cassavetes? Message-ID: iiidlldldddd hi what is eveyrone up to? i'm sad to say i have been so busy lately i haven't read the list for a while until today. (evne though i should be doing other things) I didn't even know the new singel was out. Oh well. all i want to know, is what's a dick-slap? and i hope it's not too smutty. because i like Judy, and i would be pretty miffed if stuart were to start bad-mouthing her. i haven't seen hi fidelity yet, and don't plan to. i saw a woman on a movie review show (a very sassy woman) refer to it as a "dick-flick" or the male equivalent of a chick flick. and i agree, although i haven't seen it. do i really honestly need to watch an entire movie about some lame hetero dating stories, regardless of the nerdy record geeks? No, a thousand times no, i say! Not even a few seconds of Lili Taylor on the screen could make me change my mind. and that's hard core. wah, wah, wah. my girlfriend dumped me. serves you right you self obsessed dweeb. am i offending anyone? oh well, too bad. you'll just have to put up with my closed =minded ridiculing of things i know very little about. some little bird told me that there is a lonely someone on the list looking for more gay sinister girls. HELLO!!! it's me. i'm one of the few but proud registered Sinister TweeDykes. it's getting lonely out here, too. i would always appreciate conversation. I'm also glad to hear that wee jay isn't terminally ill, or mortally doomed. i think we would all of us miss your wacky way with the common people dialect, and yeah, anyway, stay alive will ya??? Mmmmmm..... Oh er yeah! i might be seeing CAt Power this month. although i'm a little nervous, only because i'm afraid my presence will add to poor chan's spaz attack tendencies. i would feel like such an ass, up there staring....hungrily....waiting, demanding to be entertained, and secretly filled with desire! if she only knew, she would surely cry. so i'm afriad. but i'm very excited about it because i haven't seen any shows since september. and i might see Ida, as well. Oh and also. a couple of ppl were talkign to me about doign the sinister village map. (yes, i'm passe at this point) I would still be willing to do it if i have time. what i dont' have time for is actually goign through all the posts and retrieving the information everyone added. if anyone is up to the task, i'd be glad to put it all together, but frankly, i'm not willing to committ to something i have no time for......it's much kinder in the long run. however, i must reiterate that i would be very pleased to actually execute the drawing plan itself, because i'm that boring. What's YOUR take on Cassavetes? --Alcoholic!! --Messiah!! i'm feeling rather techy today. i'm goign to start a revolution with all the righteous sisters. i bought a marie claire magazine becaue janeane garofalo was on the cover. the article was fab. but on like the next page was an ad showing an elegant woman in traditional African dress, carrying fabrics on her head, and a Swahili quote on one side, and on the other side it said "no corporation has the copyright on beauty" or something retarded like that. and then, "You've come a long way, baby.....VIRGINIA SLIMS menthol" I think i'm going to puke. now i've truly seen it all. That's so fucking sad. and then dont' forget the ads telling you how wonderful breast implants are, and you should go get one right now. i kid you not. poor janeane! in all the middle of that, talking about how fuckin lame the Fashion is! the mind boggles. I'm not really sure who to fault for such insanity. can't blame a girl for wanting to fuck it up, and i think it was a saving grace and a subversion for the mag, but what were they THINKING???? dear god. well, i was supposed to write a paper last night but i started feeling really unwell, woke up with a pounding headache and bad sinuses, so slept until one oclock thus missing todays' Gay festivities. my eyes feel all swollen. i'm going to get something to eat. "Actually....women are not this stupid" "LaCroix, sweetie!" LJ http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange/buxoms.html ***The Buxoms: Svengali-free since 1998!!*** ______________________________________________________ Sent by FortuneCity Mail at http://www.fortunecity.com Join now and receive 20Mb of free web space and E-mail +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Wed Apr 12 22:53:02 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: List abuse! *bash bash bash* Message-ID: <20000412215302.5768.qmail@web612.mail.yahoo.com> I'M GONNA ABUSE THE LIST! TAKE THIS! *POW!* TAKE THIS *BOOM!* *BASH!* *WALLOP!* *KEGANG!* *SUZUKI!* *THUMP!* *LOOPER!* *DOINK!* *CABOOM!* *KAAPOW!* *T'PAU!* he heh he heh heh heh heh heh Ands while you lot are being miserable and out of love and things, I am feeling very happy, cos its nearly a year since I got together with my boyfriend and we're gonna get together this weekend and SHAG loads. YAY! sorry. Had to get that out. Love, Idleberry ps. How do you circumcise a hill billy? kick his sister in the jaw. ===== http://www.geocities.com/idleberry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walrus1972 at xxx.com Thu Apr 13 00:13:33 2000 From: Walrus1972 at xxx.com (Walrus1972 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:13:33 EDT Subject: Sinister: stone roses,blown noses Message-ID: <36.47d7f0b.26265d1d@aol.com> wow,my first post. look mommy look. ive been out of nursery for some time now,but i needed to soak in more subject lines before actually posting. anyway,it's been good times for me lately. i have recently gotten back together with my first love and we are as happy as...well,we're dead happy. im seeing oasis (terribly sorry,i really am) in exactly 6 days. travis are opening though,maybe that makes you feel better. well,my favorite bands are oasis(i apologize again),blur(another apology,if necessary),belle&sebastian,travis,pulp,super furry animals,the beatles,all the lennons,the manic street preachers,the jam,the smiths,radiohead,idlewild...i think that's all. someone mentioned the trembling blue stars earlier,how are they? i got a recommendation from amazon.com on their new album and i can get it 10% off. is that recommended? it sounds nice,they compared them to the smiths and all that. im reading on the road by jack kerouac right now,dead good. very...i dunno. it's very nice. poetic like. anyway,that's all i suppose. i'll do more soaking and post again in a while. any news of a us tour for b&s? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From edb213 at xxx.edu Thu Apr 13 01:59:12 2000 From: edb213 at xxx.edu (Eric D Brasure) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: you're just a baby, baby. Message-ID: hi all... I don't have anything substantive, so just skip over this if you're looking for that sort of thing. and, if this gets sent to the wrong address again, (honey) I apologize! I'm not doing it on purpose, I swear. I had to work today until 5, but I couldn't go home after that because I had to go meet my lab group at 6:15... which is a story in itself. suffice it to say I wasn't happy about the whole deal. so I went and bought a new pair of headphones to kill some time, but I had even more time to waste, so I decided to go to my local barnes and noble to browse the magazines (the new issue of pcgamer was out, I was excited... and yes, I am a geek. want to make something of it?), and what was playing on the stereo? "you're just a baby"! it cheered me up immensely, and now I know what those of you who have heard b&s in public places and felt like you knew something no one else did, 'cause that's how I felt. it was keen. even though I caught on the lights on my walk home from the subway, but still. "some little bird told me that there is a lonely someone on the list looking for more gay sinister girls. HELLO!!! it's me. i'm one of the few but proud registered Sinister TweeDykes. it's getting lonely out here, too. i would always appreciate conversation." yeah, and where are all the sinister gay boys? I know there must be some out there (heh.) bye. -eric +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Thu Apr 13 04:17:00 2000 From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 23:17:00 -0400 Subject: Sinister: ALERT: Bardians and Dubliners! Message-ID: <200004130315.XAA26992@s1.optonline.net> i am looking for two things: 1) sinistrals living in dublin. i'll be visiting in a bit over a week (next thursday, i think), and i'll have some free time... so if anyone wants to meet up... also, i'd love to go see some live music (that isn't traditional-irish-music-for-tourists, anyway) while in dublin... any tips? also: 2) sinistrals going to Bard College (in upstate new york, not any other bard colleges that might be about.) i'm going to school with you next year! actually, i might be visiting this weekend for the open house, too... let's get in touch, huh huh? - adam aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Thu Apr 13 09:46:58 2000 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 09:46:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Defile Manfred Mann Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69010D1518@park_ex> Hey ho, back at work after a fantastic weekend of being as camp as pontins. A few small personal highlights: Final whistle of the football Seeing Struan running around with just his shorts on (he is completely *buff* not a spare bit of flab on him and quite a bit of muscle) Ally, Kevan, Calumn, Joe and Erica (were we the only "fully sinister" chalet?) Watching Calumn talk to the entire site Aidan Moffatt from Arab Strap playing his keyboard with his head during girls of summer Having Martin Carr come to the party in our chalet Walking along London Bridge Station on the way home and saying hi to Struan walking in the other direction like he'd just kind of materialised on the platform in time to catch us. Missing Sonic Youth :) footy, slight return Shouldn't the johnny come lately glory seeker who only joined for the last ten minutes have been cup tied, having played for Snow Patrol in an earlier round? A tour de force of total shexy football, demonstrated by Jim's goalkeeping, Ally's silky skills, Sean's fully comitted tackling and Vince's falling over, (and a dashed cunning use of rolling substitutes) not to mention near-rabid support from the sidelines. Surely we now go forward to the european festival five a side competition, at pink pop (probably). Also no mention has been made so far of the Stan Collymore of the side, mercurial, great player last season, transferred for a substantial amount, then ASLEEP THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE OF SUNDAY'S MATCHES, yes, step forward Martin Robinson, who arrived at the pitch just in time for the victory celebrations :) Ooh if the pic-er-nic's on the 20th we can go to 2000 troubled teenagers afterwards and scare nervous stephen with our drunken behaviour. I've been called mark e smith a few times but never aidan moffat... xoxo CarsmileSteve Dave, can you tell Sally I've got her vodka, it was behind the sink where she left it +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From toby at xxx.uk Thu Apr 13 10:45:35 2000 From: toby at xxx.uk (Toby Blake) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:45:35 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: new B+S single Message-ID: <200004130945.KAA12119@rhymer.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> My flatmate told me last night that he'd heard the new B&S single and it sounded like a cross between The Beach Boys and the backing tracks for 1970s cinema adverts for Indian restaurants. Can anyone confirm this? I reckon this sounds quite good and indeed he said he thought I would like it. Then again, the last time this kind of thing happened, he'd heard some song on the Jo Whiley show which he thought I'd really like and he kept going on about it. I never did get to hear it, but he recently revealed to me that it was "fucking awful". Hmmm. Toby +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 50158120 at xxx.hk Thu Apr 13 11:48:14 2000 From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 18:48:14 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Seymour Stein, i can't come this tuesday. Message-ID: <955622894.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk> Hey Girls Hey Boys 100percentbelleandsebastiancontent "I can't see u, Mr Wender, I hope your talk will be GRATE" I am going to take the plane on Monday Morning (5:19? I wonder). It is for my internship, working for a Hong Kong movie director. Tuesday, supposingly, I will attend a talk by Wim Wender (YES, W.I.M. W.E.N.D.E.R.)at APA (I was born and i am living in Hong Kong). Now, I can't. Coz i will be at Bejing. "Mr Wender, I really luv your works. It's nice to see u" "Mr Wender, Can I ve your authograph?" "Mr Wender, Can I take a photo with u?" "Mr Wender, I am a film student, can u write me something encouragin'?" I will listen "Seymour Stein" on the plane. May be the line: "recordcompanymanicantgofordinner" will make a bitter laughter. All I hope is the Movie Star wanna postpone the shooting, then maybe i will be happier. And everythings go alrite, the Pets go back to the wild, all the people will be happier... abuseyourself, Toby pretending "Ace" in Quadrophenia +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wayne_fortune at xxx.com Thu Apr 13 14:39:32 2000 From: wayne_fortune at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Wayne=20Fortune?=) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 06:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20000413133932.8237.qmail@web216.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all, I was just thinking that there was something quite ironic about dodging the puddles as I drove my little Micra to work this morning, listening to Legal Man. "Get out of the office, and into the springtime". Now that would be nice... Lots of love Ba Ba __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Thu Apr 13 14:40:33 2000 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Jones?=) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 06:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: A body without organs Message-ID: <20000413134033.20496.qmail@web111.yahoomail.com> Oh, wayward ones... April. Aprill. AprILL. Oh yesh, three days on a South Coast post-rock council estate and I'm as phlegmy and viscid as a helicopter full of guacamole falling on a glue factory. That's what you get when you share a cloudy plastic beaker or four of Kronenbourg (I know, I know - it wasn't a weekend of principle) with a semi-retired ex-Scouse noisepopper. Full of germs, these North Londoners. He didn't recall our old Physics teacher Tom Goddard with any more affection than I did. Tom, if you're reading this - Bernoulli, Berphooey. My chest may be as clogged as a barber's vacuum, and my head as glutinous as month-old milk, but the memories are as yet undimmed: Dastoor, seized by the same demons that possessed Macca in '73 - "Jet"*, complete with fevered sofa-bed bouncing. Ol' Snake-Hips playing deep in the latter stages of the 5-a-side campaign, soaking up wave after wave of Delgadian assault, pricking the balloons of IPC prose-monkey offence with his needle-sharp tackling. Arantxa, who seemed to have a different outfit for morning, afternoon and evening, reeling back 18 summers with tales of Arconada, Camacho, Butragueño - "just say 'Sociedad' again... for sampling purposes, you understand." Mr Chelmsford UK relieving the viral shudders with cups of java. Labradford halting time. "Play It Again, Sam". Human ashtrays. Pinefox, wandering. With a packet of Minstrels. Sun, sand, sea and sambuca (which I'd always thought was a topical solution for applying to warts. Seems I was right). No sleep 'til Sevenoaks. (* from an LP described as "tasteless and offensive" by Max Blaska - from Alaska! - at Amazon.com. He's less equivocal on the subject of "Ram".) Of course, one eventually has to return from such a bubble of unfettered faffing-about, and damp, grimy reality slaps you in the chops. Peter Jones is dead, as is Larry Linville. I read with interest (but not comprehension) that Annie Lennox Lewis Collins is to be stripped of his/her WBA belt. "Not only will his/her pants fall down", writes former Hawthorns favourite Remi Moses in today's Independent, "but he/she will have to go to back of the queue when the next batch of season tickets are released". A sad state of affairs and no danger. Mike (look at his face! Just look at his face!). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From odonnell.k at xxx.com Thu Apr 13 14:47:50 2000 From: odonnell.k at xxx.com (Katrina O'Donnell) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:47:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Careless whispers? Message-ID: I have no idea if this is true or if it is a cruel joke on my behalf, but my friend who works on SM:TV said b&s might be performing Legal Man on the show. This might not be true so don't get excited. Kat ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Apr 13 15:04:46 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:04:46 +0200 Subject: Sinister: The Consolations of Popology Message-ID: <003501bfa551$5f14dcc0$a7a8243e@itjfvkli> I fail to see how anyone could give "The Talented Mr Ripley" seven out of ten, unless they were a Matt Bianco fan dazzled by Jude Law's jazzy titfer. Matt Bianco were on the telly the other night. Only Matt is left. They did "That's What I Say I Say Yeah Yeah" instead of my personal favourite "Sneaking Out the Back Door With a Grin". I know most people go for "Get Out Your Lazy Bed", but that's what P!O!P! is all about - spouting shite. Gwyneth Paltrow's got a big bum. She was on the telly outside the Guggenheim Museum in Bilbao and her backside was so big you could hardly see the museum. It's true - if you watch her films closely, you'll notice that she never gets her arse out, just her tits. I enjoyed the recent discussion of late eighties NME and MM content. It inspired me to produce my top ten epics in sound and scope. Here goes: 1. Led Zep - Kashmir 2. Amon Düül II - Yeti 3. Sonic Youth's third 20 minute improvisation at ATP 4. Iron Butterfly - Innagaggadadoodah 5. Anything by Ash Ra Tempel I give up. Note the lack of A.R. Kane. Does the A.R. stand for Ash Ra? What does "jouissance" mean? Sonic jousting? Thanks to David "Live at the Fill" Moore for his ATP reviews, Megan for her Daltrey update, and Jason for offering us his dog. I would be first in the queue if I lived in the UK and the dog promised never to do a jobby ever again. I've heard two new B&S songs on the radio - Stevie's "Wrong Gurl", which has been jollied up with some strings, giving it a nice "Cowboy in Sweden" feel, and "Waiting for the MoooOooooOOOoon to Rise" by the Wild Woman of Wonga, which has a kind of harpsichord thing on it and is deeply groovy. I don't know if this is old news or not. I've also heard two Looper songs, one was like a cheap Beck impersonation and the other one had a kind of sub-New Order bass on it and the familiar Strawberry Fields keyboard sound. Business as usual. At least he's had the decency to put his vocals through some kind of effects box. The lyrics were something about how beautiful everyday things are, something I was hoping that bloody plastic bag between two wind machines in "American Beauty" would have got rid of for good. I might see some of you UK listees next week or the week after, should the chance arise. I don't know whether this will involve scouring the co-ops of Oxford or dropping into the Po Caff for a nice jacket potato or stalking Keith or hanging out in Fleet Street "drinking clubs" or none of the above. I'm definitley going to be popping down John Menzies for a Trousercuts though. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Thu Apr 13 17:37:23 2000 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 17:37:23 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: it's that time again where i lose my fiends Message-ID: Hey folks Just a few comments Well done to the footy lads, I'm really impressed that you managed to win without me, congratulations. question: am I the only person on the list that hasn't heard the new track, if its such a grower then you guys are gonna think its the greatest song ever before I've even heard it. ATP sounded great fun, and yet again I couldn't afford to go. which means I missed out on meeting all those who were there that I've not met yet. Maybe I'll just have to invade the next pic-nic on may 20th, should have some cash then....anybody got a bit of floorspace for a wizard to sleep on? anyway sorry for bothering you with this nonsense, just needed a break having finished the last essay I will ever have to write for my degree, only a bloody dissertation to go now. THE APRIL UPDATE words to write before the 28th 30,000 words written to date 12,000 words remaining 18,000 days remaining 14 words per day required 1,286 bye folks love and armadillos owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk Thu Apr 13 18:12:17 2000 From: amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk (amy_jackson0) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 18:12:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: stickers, stickers everywhere...... References: <20000412124315.20424.qmail@fsmail.net> Message-ID: <001001bfa56b$97fbab80$9ad5b0c2@tinypc> Painting With Light said......... > And when you leave I suggest a surprise like a thankyou note on the pillow or decorate their room secretly with balloons and sparkly things so when they next go in they think of you and smile unless of course they hate sparkly things. what a great idea!! i was trying to think of something nice to do for laura (my friend in liverpool) when i leave next week, and this is very cool. i could twee her room up, put a few piccies of b&s around her house, convert her dad to liking hefner and make her mum put a picture of stu m on her fridge- hey, angel from buffy is already there, stu m will easily fit in! but ballons and sparkly things are great too, so maybe i could create a wee glitter explosion in her house????? help me my dear sinisterines!!!!! i ahven't started packing yet, have been listening to legal man instead.......all in all, i think it is great, and we should all go out in droves and buy it first week of release, so it charts high....HEY! maybe they might get a totp appearance!! can you imagine, b&s wedged between mel c and the b*witched, so to speak?!! but then again, perhaps it would be infinately cooler if they decided not to do totp??????? i dunno, i don't mind really........as for the sticker album idea, i think we should do it ourselves, like a wee sinister enterprise! a few of us could collect pictures/stalk the band (as suggested by idleberry) and then we could find someone on the list who works at a print shop...c'mon, there must be someone out there who does??? then we can send a prototype to jeepster or banchory and once they see how cool it is, they'll buy the idea and then sinister will be rich, rich, rich i tell you!!!!!!!!! *ahem* so, why not eh?!! well, better go, i will give you all the details of my trip to ahrass everyone on merseysied next weekend, until then i have to love you and leave you........ loadsa love, littlebelleXXX :o) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From smiley at xxx.uk Thu Apr 13 12:46:33 2000 From: smiley at xxx.uk (Mike) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 12:46:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: But life is cruel and I am kind Message-ID: <000201bfa56e$3deb9c60$1679883e@n8j4k7> Hello, I'm really scared. I'm really scared because right now I'm living with mummy and daddy in a nice house. In a month I'll be doing exams. After this follows a couple of months spent in a permanent drunken stupor. After that... I'll be living in a house. On my own. 18 years old and I'll have all those things grown up people have. A house, a car (all right it's a Fiat Uno rather than a Rover or BMW, but still).I'll have to buy food and stuff. I'll have a flippin garden! (Hate gardening. I'll let it grow wild and have summer picnics in it.) I'm not ready I don't think. I don't really feel very grown up at all I'm still a baby, really. God, responsibilities. Before you know it I'll be washing the car and mowing the lawn on a Sunday afternoon [shudders]. ----------Content---------- I missed Legal Man. I've been trying to hear it again on the Evening Session, but there's only so long I can listen to Blink 182 before I decide that it's not worth it and I'll just assume it's good and wait for it to be released. -------End of content------- I just tried driving with no shoes on. I now know why it's illegal. Also, I heard today that Our Price is to be no more. Virgin are going to turn it into a hi-fi shop. This means that us Worksop pop pickers now have a choice of Woolworths or Splash Records (with their evil ravey ways). ------More content--------- The grapevine tells me B&S are to plug Legal Man on CD:UK. If this is true it is simultaneously brill and bloody crap. The appearance, that is, not the song. Love, Mike smiley at rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk http://www.rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mark at xxx.uk Thu Apr 13 23:35:46 2000 From: mark at xxx.uk (Mark Pattison) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:35:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Stuart Murdoch's ATP gossip Message-ID: <003401bfa598$9e977000$2d09893e@mark> > >One finally thing, was anyone here on Sinister in the Covent garden Rough >Trade shop on Mon at about 3pm ? I saw a chap with glasses, brown jacket >and shoulder slung bag there with an upside down B&S prefect badge. >Just curious > >Hope this informs and entertains > >Stuart Flanagan > Woohoo! That was me! Years of faithfully wearing the symbolic upside-down badge and it's finally worked. Well, not so much that anyone would come up and talk to me, but still. I had popped in after an exam to pick up the new Hefner album (which is v. good by the way), and I wanted a copy of Trousercuts as well, but they didn't have any. Now I'll have to send off for it. Glad to see everyone had a nice time at ATP. Last year Bowlie was right after my exams- this year it was, literally, the day before. 'Snot fair. At least I can look forward to the picnic... MarkP +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MBP99KLC at xxx.uk Thu Apr 13 23:37:53 2000 From: MBP99KLC at xxx.uk (Katy) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:37:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: summer here kids? Message-ID: <013701bfa598$f476c660$05d4a78f@ratsmbp99klc> Hi Sinister, I'm very sorry to hear that Sonic Youth were shit at ATP. I really am. They were brilliant once. Robyn said: >it makes me feel just as good. you know, the way brilliant things do when >they're just naturally brilliant. This and Owen's post may be enough to make me get something by Half Japanese even though I'd never heard of them before. Is this wise? well probably as wise as trusting the nme. Jayson said: >Im Jayson, and Im a cancer I'm a Capricorn and I always thought it was very boring, so I was pleased when my auntie (who knows about these things) said she could see Saggitarian in me, as I'm on the border. It must be all rubbish anyway. But my friend found an old book of astrology for individual birthdays, and apparently a lot of the ones for people she knew seemed pretty accurate. But yes I know they always put things that can apply to anyone. It also told you how you might die, which is nice. She said mine said I was clever but misunderstood (I suppose many people would see themselves as misunderstood) and that I should beware of fire, flying and runaway horses. When I go home at Easter I'm going to have a look at this book for myself. Anyway my flatmate has the same birthday as me, so. And also Youn asked: >Does the recognition of egotism masked as self-consciousness get you off >charges of both? It depends how cleverly you do it I suppose. Some people tread a very fine line. I like your clever and logical posts Youn - I think that's why Neil thought you were a boy, cos I think boys are usually more logical than girls. Like my mum and dad arguing:- Dad: Yes but what I meant was this. Mum: [Something completely illogical] Dad: YES BUT WHAT I SAID WAS... Mum (very calmly): Please don't shout at me. Dad: I'M NOT SHOUTING! etc. I think I'm quite a logical girl. However this may be in comparison to some of my housemates. No more stories of silly boys this post. I kind of regretted saying all that last time, cos people might think I care about such things. Is it wicked not to care? Quite the opposite, I would have thought. katy c x ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "What could be finer, I thought. The world needs boy-meets-girl stories. But to write one, unfortunately, the author must go about the business of having the boy meet the girl." ~ jd salinger 'the heart of a broken story' "I've never had my heart broken. Maybe I should" ~ steve malkmus, pavement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Thu Apr 13 23:58:57 2000 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 18:58:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: things so breifly, yes. and toronto too. Message-ID: <001701bfa59b$cf6e75e0$b902a7d1@yesic.com> so, today was nice but cold and my friend ben and i hung out and did things and he's done his highschool midterms and i'm just wrapping up uni for the year, and so far, after one year,except for the bit of freaking out that i did last week university is ok. actually, its quite a racket and i can't believe that having a degree in something gets you taken more seriously than someone who doesn't have one. i feel pretty unchanged by it, except for getting to have tea more and getting invited to drink on weekdays. ben is on this list but never posts, but sends me fabulous email....is this fair? should i be the only one here to bask in the beam of his flashlight of genius? certainly not! but there are two real things of list-like business to mention.... 1...could someone who apperantly taped legal man off the radio put it in mp3 and hustle it around on napster so that those of us who are into instant gratification and hearing new belle and sebastian records before they come out in stores can gratify ourselves instantly. 2...also, there will be a mystery vistor to toronto called juan carlos moya...(fuck, the cat is out of the bag) and he will be in town from the 20th on...so maybe on the 21st we (being those of us in toronto) should all get together carry him to a place where he can consume alchoholic beverages with us. if any toronto types have any good ideas about how to do this then we should all send email around to eachother and see what comes of this... yes. and then we should all meet up on the 21st and hang out. yes. the bats won't be closed for easter things yet on the21st will they? even if they are we can still go to a bar. damn bats, closing unexpectedly all the time.... poop, well this has just gone on tooooo much and is no good. good bye then... s t e v e n k a d o ! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lost_madflowr at xxx.com Fri Apr 14 01:28:36 2000 From: lost_madflowr at xxx.com (lost madflowr) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 17:28:36 PDT Subject: Sinister: any loopers care to meet up at looper at fletchers? Message-ID: <20000414002836.71617.qmail@hotmail.com> hello. mandatory b&s content: i heard winter wooksie [sp?] a bit ago when i downloaded it from someone on napster. i just absolutely adore it. um. yes. i really do. and um. yes. i played no b&s or looper on my radio show cos i really do not think there is one that i'd call a break up song really. if you're in the dc/va/md/pa whatever area and you'd like to talk with other sinister folks about meet ups and whatnot, then join sinisterdc. um. yeah. http://sinisterdc.listbot.com dunno if anyone is going, but i just wanted to double check. if there is anyone in the northern virginia area who wants to go but needs a ride to the flaming lips/looper show tomorrow, please oh please get in touch with me, cos as it is now i am driving myself there and back and i have a history of falling asleep at the wheel when it's late at night when i am by myself. yes. so really...if you need a ride, please just email me. actually you could just call me at work [blockbuster video] 703-971-1600 friday [14 april]. just ask for leigh. um that's it. whee. leigh p.s. thanks to all the people who submitted good break up songs to my radio showtoday. it was quite a success i do believe. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From foxinthesnow_ at xxx.com Fri Apr 14 03:18:56 2000 From: foxinthesnow_ at xxx.com (Fox in the snow) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 19:18:56 PDT Subject: Sinister: Montreal picnic Message-ID: <20000414021856.15482.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello Montreal people:) It's this time of year when it's tiome to think about picnics ( it may not look like it with all the snow there's in Montreal apparently);) Well The plan thus far is a nice meet up on May 20th in Parc Lafontaine , close to the lake. I know there's 2 of them but close to the wee cabin that's in the middle. And of course you can't miss us cos we'll bring radios , guitars, kites, loads of food and anything else we can think of:) So yes everyone be there at 12:oo /13:00 :) and you can always let me know so I know everyone who might want to come so I keep in touch in case something has to be changed I can mail all of yous privatly and not the whole list:) that,s it for now:) cheers, Karolyne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jnikolaeff at xxx.au Fri Apr 14 05:05:21 2000 From: jnikolaeff at xxx.au (Juliya Nikolaeff) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:35:21 +0930 Subject: Sinister: But life is cruel and I am kind Message-ID: <01BFA616.4998DF70.jnikolaeff@nexus.edu.au> Mike said: I'm really scared. Are all boys really that scared of moving out of home? I don't understand - they are meant to be big and strong & tough. Actually, most guys I know still live at home at 27 years of age - now that is sad I think, especially if they CAN afford to move out and fend for themselves. It's part of growing up, Mike - get used to it. And just think, if a girl can...... B&S That is the first I've heard of a new single, as I'm in Australia and you don't hear shite out here. Not to mention nobody knows nothing about anything to do with music. For instance, on the J's last night they said they were having a Fat Wreck Chords special, and all it was was Nofx with a couple of other bits & pieces thrown in. I don't know about you, but if you were having a special on FWC you would play FWC stuff, not all nofx, - my point I'm getting there. Maybe not. Just keep in mind it is 1/30pm and I got in at 4am this morning and I am at work and still drunk I believe because I have forgotten my point.... I actually listened to BWTAS this morning when I got home. It is pure joy to listen to. I'm sure you all know this. I'm just letting you know. Now I'm eating a villis pie and it is hot, and I am very hungry and hungover. I have a headache. I will leave you all alone now. Wish me luck that I don't get in shite for being drunk at work. Cheers hugs & kisses Juliya (aka radiationgirl) ps the irish boy has NOT rung me yet so he can go to hell, go to hell & die "I always cry in movies Doesn't take that much to move me" -Career Girls http://www.angelfire.com/ok/careergirls/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trollopinpaisley at xxx.com Fri Apr 14 06:23:20 2000 From: trollopinpaisley at xxx.com (Valerie Solanas) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:23:20 -0800 Subject: Sinister: POP-erazi Message-ID: <86FB17F61A114D1178050005B83762B3@trollopinpaisley.fcmail.com> the subject line had nothing to do with anything. today i found that a hummingbird is nesting in the tree outside my building. It's true, isn't it--that that hummingbirds are only found in the Americas?? other types of birds in the other continents fill their ecological niche. but i think hummingbirds are really twee. they're tiny, sparkly,pretty colored, and they beep and squeak, hang around pretty flowers and buzz like helicopters, and build teeny tiny little TINY nests. i had never seen a nest before in real life, and the mother was sitting on it. wow. Just wanted to say, for credit where credit is due, that Jess and I invented the worlds very first Sinister stickers, circa last march when i visited her in pittsburgh. they were circulated amongst a number of listees, and indeed have traveled to places as numerous as washington DC, missouri, france, ccamber sands bowlie, and london. (etc??) they consisted (and still do) of small yearbook photos from 1972 that was bought in a thrift store, and each anonymous face is captioned with an enigmatic belle and sebastian quote. tasteful, subtle, and above all, puzzling to the uninitiated and unwashed masses. Perhaps they will make a comeback sometime soon?? *hmmm*?? i dont' know. My point is, we made the original sinister sticker album, collect them all, stick them up all over your favorite city or bathroom stall, and irritate the bourgeousie. it's a worldwide movement. I was also going to make up some "Shiny Apple Posse" stickers, like Andre the Giant has a posse, only i! t's stu art murdoch. i have a couple of designs but never got around to making them into atual stickers becasue i have no money. I know there are gay boys on sinister, i heard em talking about how sexy stuart is. really. er, uh ARSE NAPPIES! i apologize for the content of this post and must return to my buddhist studies. there is a bluddy show on about near death experience, whether it's scientifically fuckin real. i have two words. W H O C A R E S ????????? I really despise the human race, did i ever mention that before? why dont' they all jsut leave well enough alone. did i ever mention that i fully advocate the mass destruction/infiltration/severe crippling of the world's genetic research facilities? Not that i'd do it myself, i'm a coward. im just saying i wouldn't be complaining if it was all done for. serves em bloody right, morons. well, i should be going, i have to go clone my dead 2 year old father and stick einsteins brain in him, and use the leftover parts to grow radioactive cancer cells and anthrax...OOOHH!!! it sounds like fuckin PARADISE don't it now!!!? Triumphantly bitchy, LJ PS, please dont' start a ruckus on here replying to my science rant, it would bore everyone (me included) to tears, you can reply to me if you want, but you'll NEVER ever change my mind!! you are fairly warned. hmm, someone just screamed really incredibly loud somewhere out there, that happens pretty often. "Let's party for the apocalypse, when she will come out of the dirt like a little flower" ______________________________________________________ Sent by FortuneCity Mail at http://www.fortunecity.com Join now and receive 20Mb of free web space and E-mail +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vilkas at xxx.com Fri Apr 14 06:25:25 2000 From: vilkas at xxx.com (Vilkas D'Angelo-Horvath) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 01:25:25 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Aggrrhh(though siam is still bad-ass) Now just imagine a Belle&Sebastian cover of "Hit me Baby One More Time". Message-ID: <200004140519.BAA08124@granger.mail.mindspring.net> Sorry and Thank You in Advance. So there's this gossip about Belle and Sebastian being in the US while I'm in Scotland...and in Europe when I'm back in US. DammitDammitDammit. hate rumours. Anyway. I already am plotting on flying back to the US for a weekend...That's lots more $$$ though, frivilous too. That's what the second job is for, forget the bills, I WANNA ROCK! (Guess I'll have to stay.) I should be wary of these thoughts though as I am broke now. Not sure how I pulled this trip off but it's not together yet. I'm still on U.S. soil. Seeing Looper on Friday. I'm going with my friend who lives waaaay closer to Baltimore than myself. She's never heard them. Hmmm...her hubby's coming too. They'll either love 'em or hate 'em. Who knows? How many of you are gonna be at the show? I must remember to wear a B&S badge upside down and visible so as to be identified. >:). Let's see: I'm 5'8" or so, I am a woman and a big girl at that, blueblack dyed midlength kinda flippy, layered in the nonfarrahfawcett way hair, nosering, brown eyes, 20-something. Probably gonna be wearing grey sneakers; either grey/yellow/blue addidas laceups or grey/green tones acupuncture velcro. Possibly black elastic sided boots tho. The crow flies at midnight. LOL! Oh, BTW, I'm gonna be in Glasgow for 5-7 weeks (summer program @ Glasgow School of Art). Who wants to meet up? We can do stuff. like drink or dance or walk around and look at stuff or picnic. I don't know what...that we could figure out later. Also, I'll probably have questions for yous Glaswegians about stuff. Oh, my vocabulary skills are FABulous today. LOL again. This has nothing to do with anything, but, Kelis is the singer on Old Dirty Bastard's "Got Your Money" song. I thought this was supercool. (B&S content, this info was noted in the select with Stu M in the "pin-up" section which just now came out in the U.S) Comments on ATP even tho I wasn't there. Oooh, Labradford is from the town where I live now. I saw them in a converted cinema a few years ago. My spine was vibrating it was good. All in a 20 X 50 foot space. I've been at Sonic Youth concerts before where I've had, I kid you not, spiritual revelations. Maybe not that intense, but they were amazing. Listening to "The Diamond Sea" whilst standing in a field under a meteor shower with strobe light style chrismas lights on stage. Um, *wow*. However, this is told to precede my statement that I'm not so excited at the new stuff. I hate it when people don't like a band when the band develops or changes yet still rules. But noodleing can only take you so far. Gonna quit while I'm ahead on this argument. I have to know. This is not list abuse cos it's to ask to find songs of B&S. Is napster PC only? My Mac, me, and napsters website have not had a good relationship so far. Any suggestions? Anyway, It's 1:20 a.m. and I must get up at daybreak. Again, dammitdammitdammit. With Siamese Cats for everyone, Vilkas (who is nicknamed Willie) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Fri Apr 14 13:25:02 2000 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Stevie_Trouss=E9?=) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:25:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I've spent days hiding under my bed / I've had boys throwing rocks at my head Message-ID: <01bfa60c$7508e9c0$0300a8c0@g5-200-3> What ho! You know, comrades, some times you come back from a weekend festival of esoterrorism feeling like you've lost that spring in your step, that extra yard of pace, that giddy infatuation with all things P!O!P!. You feel like a jaded 30something covered in mystery bruises. But then you receive a cut-out-and-keep mini-Baxendale in the post, and find yourself legging it across town having received the last minute news that the Montgolfier Brothers are playing at the 12 Bar.... and all is right in the world. Thanks to everyone who has written in about ATP. I feel I have a slightly firmer grasp on the events of the weekend now. If anyone has any pictures and would like them displayed somewhere, send them to me, and we'll do a little photo-essay on the papercuts website some time. Nice to see Peter Miller emerging from whatever rock he has been hiding under. Matt Bianco, eh? My Sidmouth correspondent maintains that it was one of his schoolfriends that rang in on that fateful Saturday Superstore appearance. But he also tells me that he likes that last Kevin Rowlands record, so I'm not sure if I believe him. Talking of washed-up 80s popstars (Rowlands/Bianco - not Tim Hopkins) did anyone else see the news on Saturday that Steve Strange (the Simon Price of the 80s) has been busted for shoplifting? He was caught trying to nick a tellytubbies doll. In court he asked for a few other offences including stealing a Boots make-up kit and a lady's jacket to be taken into consideration. Can you imagine any greater loss of dignity? I look forward to reading of Marilyn's descent into the shady world of Pokemon smuggling. I imagine he would be a jigglypuff boy. Interesting to read of the the involvement of far-east gambling cartels in South African cricket. You must have made a mint, Ooooooooon. I might see some of you at the Spearmint/Baxendale gig tonight. I will be the one in the diamante hairslide. Cheerio Stevie Troussé ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ papercuts: the magazine for girls, and boys who want to be girls www.papercuts.co.uk ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox at xxx.com Fri Apr 14 14:25:44 2000 From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:25:44 GMT Subject: Sinister: Rhizomatic? Greased lightning Message-ID: <20000414132544.23552.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey, it's B&S content time. I note that some jester, replying to my last Chris Evert, I mean, effort, said that Stuart Murdoch wasn't very good at footy. He said it in different terms from those - he used almost industrial language, Melvyn - but I'm not a believer in swearing in print. I think his whole post was 'ironic', anyway, but I'm not good at detecting that. I do go to an evening class on it, though, run by former Osasuna forward Michael Robinson. But he only speaks in Spanish nowadays, so progress is slow. Well, what I want to establish here is that on ATP evidence, Murdoch is a *surprisingly good footballer*. There are two categories of people to whom SM's skill won't be a surprise: 1) folk who think he's the spuming fountainhead of galactic talent and is equally brilliant at *everything*; 2) folk like Ally1996, who've probably been playing with him on 'scratch pitches', 'ashpits' and 'tenement cellar floors', with 'wee bairns' for opposition, for the last 16 years. But to the rest of us - well, to me - it really was a surprise how good this fellow was on the 'pitch', I mean, pitch. As others have already remarked, he doesn't have an ounce of flab on him. Butter, maybe, I didn't check his pockets; flab, no. He was surprisingly muscular in places. Still, you can be a tough guy and still lack talent. Ask David Ginola. But this lad had pace - he covered ground very quickly - stamina - he stayed on, once he'd entered the fray, and never looked tired - and sufficient resilience to carry on playing once he'd gashed himself. His passing was sound, he was comfortable with the ball at his feet, and he packed a real cannonball of a shot, although, like real cannonballs, they weren't always accurate. But who is, in the pressure of a 5-a-side game? Well, the rest of the Jockey strike force, admittedly. Apologies to those who think this is just football talk for boys. But for one thing, you can wheel it out next time anyone says B&S are shrinking violets. They're growing chrysanthemums, mate, and not just in their window-box. For another, it struck me that SM must be - and I hope to cause no offence here - better at footy than, say, 80 per cent of the members of this list. That's notwithstanding the fact that there are some great players on this list, and that many of the rest couldn't give a Socceroo about the game, about which I promise to fall silent after I finish using language. Add to that the fact that Murdoch is, let's say, and again no offence to any pop stars or anyone else out there, A better guitarist than 90% of sinister A better singer than 95% of sinister A better songwriter than 100% of sinister, unless there was anything in that rumour about the lad MacManus joining in February - and these are pretty conservative estimates - and, well, it just needs Steady Mike to put them into his master-computer and prove how gifted this fellow is. In short, I am just beginning to agree with the folk in category 1) above. We really do have a bit of a spuming fountainhead on our hands, and splashing all over us. Silence, as promised. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleeka_sounds at xxx.com Fri Apr 14 14:45:19 2000 From: sleeka_sounds at xxx.com (Sleeka Sounds) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 06:45:19 PDT Subject: Sinister: Ginger pubes Message-ID: <20000414134519.29682.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear List, My name is Christopher, I've been on the list for ages but haven't posted much. I hope you are all well, and I'm enjoying the mails about ATP especially. So Stuart Murdoch got his tits out? Surely someone must have taken a picture of this. I would have, then I'd make copies of it and sell it in the bogs for 50p a shot. He's fucking lovely, isn't he. Gorgeous. Was his chest really hairy? And ginger? Does that mean he's got ginger pubes? The music papers would pay a fortune for a picture like that. Was he wearing little shorts, and did one testicle hang out the side when he sat down cross legged? You lucky people. Did he swear a lot when he played football? Was he fucking raging? Did he hack anyone? Who hacked him and made his leg bleed? They'd better watch themselves. I'm off work till 2nd may, and I've got an 'empty' for a week. So your all invited to come and go as you please. Bring an instrument or some fizzy pop. I'll provide fish fingers. Yours, Chris Leonard ================================================= http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~calnd/sleeka/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From secretmysterydate at xxx.com Fri Apr 14 16:55:24 2000 From: secretmysterydate at xxx.com (brand new shoes) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:55:24 EDT Subject: Sinister: what if i miss them? Message-ID: <20000414155524.9178.qmail@hotmail.com> oh dear oh dear oh dear!! straight up selfish B+S question for the masses: does anyone know the US tour dates yet? I need to know exactly when they will be here, because i have a horrible feeling that they might be doing their US tour while i am doing my european one. this would be just awful, yeah? if anyone knows so that can know whether to feel sorry for myself or not, i would love it if you could tell me. okay lovelies, that's all for now... bises sam ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk Fri Apr 14 18:16:14 2000 From: amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk (amy_jackson0) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 18:16:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: i love list crushes!!!! References: <200004131957.UAA04197@missprint.org> Message-ID: <003101bfa635$24de7720$560c3c3e@tinypc> hellooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! someone on the list has made me very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very happy, and voted for me in the list crush!!!!!!!!! much luv and kisses to you, whoever you are!!!! please, tell me who you are, the suspense is killing me, and i may even like you too!!!!!! email me privately if you don't want everyone to know! 'mwah!!! adios, littlebelle XXXXXXXXXXX ;o) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Fri Apr 14 19:25:36 2000 From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: this she did in public for us to see... Message-ID: <20000414182536.7410.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com> today, yous, i'm starting to get neurotic about b&s tour dates. i shouldn't, but i am. i just want to know. i just want the tickets in my hands. i know i am not alone when i say: if i do not see belle and sebastian this summer, summer will be this disappointment, this Sad Tainted State. whereas seeing b&s will make this summer the Best Summer Ever. i'm having a week of extreme thoughts, no middle ground. (I was going to start a rumour, pass it on like, but i'm not one for idle gossip (lie). i will wait for Official Jeepster News...) mmm. stuart murdoch... football. i can barely believe this all happened. i feel so very far away. picnics: there will be no vancouver sinister picnic. just me and a bottle of wine in the park, asking squirrels if they think belle and sebastian will come to vancouver, and if not, why not, and if so, when, and if when then will they get across the border. but advice from squirrels doesn't actually count; they are rumourmongers. anyway, we could have a pacific northwest picnic, but the pacific northwest is fairly big... even bigger when your main mode of transport is a bike. or feet. ooh, but there's a train! trains are good. did sonic youth *really* suck at atp? were they the bad kind of experimental? i loved and love sonic youth, and news that they sucked lately live is not good news at all... but i don't know what "sucked" means. all i know is that i could listen to "skip tracer" over and over and over again. with his mild-mannered look on, yeah, he was truly hip... i went on sinister chat the other night. it was interesting, if more than a little jarring. but it reassured me that not having a grasp on the concept of time is nothing to be worried about. it's like non-linearity within a linear structure. it shouldn't exist, yet it does. it does all o're the place. i'm glad though. technology makes me so happy sometimes. but technology is exploited by petty people who can't think outside the next month, and this makes me sad. can't they see that computerization is bigger than just making a profit? the social (and even evolutionary/anthropological) affects of new technology are staggering. oh, i won't rant. i just got on about it for a minute. more at a later date in crazed photocopied pamphlet form, to be handed out on streetcorners by me, ranting while i play two notes on my grandma's faux-hammond organ to a samba beat. i'll see you see you see you on the highway, robyn (one day someone will tell me what "20, 15" means...) ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MMarucco at xxx.com Fri Apr 14 19:32:45 2000 From: MMarucco at xxx.com (Marucco, Mike) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:32:45 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I am awful.. Message-ID: <3017EFC4FCC0D111AAB100805F6F256808555577@lscexch2.limited.com> I haven't been paying attention...is it known when the dates (US) will be announced? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Fri Apr 14 20:25:46 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: mischief as usual Message-ID: <20000414192546.12320.qmail@web612.mail.yahoo.com> Okay, so TODAY!! I have been up to mischief as usual. went to pub during lunch and taught everyone how to say naughty words in Norwegian/ Swedish. had mean thoughts. and dirty ones, but I'm not telling you them. all I can say, is this weekend, boyfriend, and shagging. the other woman I work with who is a ditz forgot her key to the cupboard, so i hid it and made her a treasure map to find it when she goes in early on Monday morning. everyone at work thinks I'm a greedy bastard cos I went and picked up cakes from the cake trolley, for me and other people throughout the day, but everyone who saw me, just thinks I was continuosly helping myself. I have decided to copyright the idea of stalking/ sticking B+S. Therfore the copyright things are as follows: �5 must be paid for one B+S member stalked/ pictured. �25 for two of them together. �34.97 for three of them. �19.00 if you remember all their names. �1.20 for Chris Geddes picture. �30.46 for all the band together. �99999 for any picture of isobel in a bad mood. �0.25 for Stu M looking folorn. �12.00 for any combination of the band. �4.23 for any combination of the above. all proceeds will go directly towards Honey's pension, so that I can take over the sinister list asap. And change its name to something rude in Norwegian. heh heh heh. knuller rice indeed. By the way, if anyone is as sad as me, read a Norwegian grammar book. It reads rather well like a B+S song. taddle plap! love idleberry (p.s. bet none of you can guess what my real name is...!) ===== http://www.geocities.com/idleberry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather-boa at xxx.com Fri Apr 14 20:46:47 2000 From: feather-boa at xxx.com (feather boa) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:46:47 -0700 Subject: Sinister: friday i'm in love Message-ID: well, i think i might be. does this excuse me for not being able to work out where this picnic is going to be? because i want to go. we were supposed to be having a picnic for gay dad tommorrow, but i don't think *looks outside* that's going to happen. we'll have to go to the trocadero and play air hockey instead. i'm going to do a day shadowing daniel booth and mm on monday. and he phoned me today, saying we'd meet outside and what did i look like. i said i had belle and sebastian fan hair (which i do) and he said "oh, can you do something about that over the weekend?". what punishment does this merit? answers on a postcard to the usual address. pip pip, FB X *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Fri Apr 14 21:44:14 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 16:44:14 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Fornicating Milkmaids Message-ID: <200004141644_MC2-A146-8EA9@compuserve.com> Yo! Sorry, me again. But don't worry, I'll slope off to lurkerdom again soon. At my back I already hear time's wingéd ironing board hurrying near, & before me lie piles of new tapes & CD's to listen to. How does Stevie keep his Trousers up?* Ballooning pioneers & P!O!P Tarts already since ATP. I'm all gigged out now, coming down with concert throat after Hefner last night. (Who were top despite all being poorly. Darren pissed off with the pissed up children in front until they gave him a "Bono at Live Aid moment" by singing all the chorus of The Hymn For The Alcohol without him, whilst he looked on all shy & proud.) Get to the point Moore. Oh yeah. Fox In The Pines spumed about B&S not being shrinking violets & Struan's footie talents in particular. SM's grasp of his feminine side is well documented, but I just wanted to add that whilst chatting to him over the merchandise counter on Sunday night**, it was apparent that what he liked best about having played was to have WON. So lets add competitive to all those other adjectives. Welcome back Peter & Chris. Big Pete: the Jewish hymn thing that Mogwai played at ATP was strongly reminiscent of Led Zep's Kashmir, what with the string quintet 'n all. (*Perhaps I should say "Yes!" to a delmonte hairslide, too. And maybe get some hair first) (**gross exaggeration, for effect. The whole conversation must have been over & done with in 40 seconds) Bye, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlefish at xxx.com Sat Apr 15 00:23:53 2000 From: littlefish at xxx.com (Kristen Bailey) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 15:23:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Ain't no party like an S Club party Message-ID: <20000414222353.CCD7430BE@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From linus at xxx.nu Sat Apr 15 01:23:54 2000 From: linus at xxx.nu (Linus) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 02:23:54 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Sinister: OFF TOPIC: A question to any eventual New Yorker Message-ID: I'm just watching Bringing out the Dead, and I got to wonder: is all New Yorkers as weird as the ones in the movie? Just thouhght there were someone who could tell me... =) The music's GRATE, btw. Love, Linus. ------------------------------------- Linus Rundberg (linus at rockar.lite.nu) ICQ: 1477980 Ite, maledicti, in ignem eternum. ------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From candelaria66 at xxx.com Sat Apr 15 02:03:53 2000 From: candelaria66 at xxx.com (Luther van der Gaard) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 18:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: oy. (newcomer) Message-ID: <4295163.955760633909.JavaMail.imail@swirly> from the nursery emerged... well, another one to add to the list of millions. i'm happy to be here. really. sure there are a few listers not quite as clever as they think they are, but we're united at least by our love of belle & sebastian. ugh. never a good idea to start off by insulting people. i'll formally introduce myself later, i suppose. the library is closing and they're kicking me out :( imagine, closing at 6 on a weekday. it's an absolute travesty. miss jackson, i was stunned at the outpouring of emotion from your direction. did you ever stop to think that whoever is, er, crushing you may be a complete stranger? anyway whoever he/she is, i hope theyre ready to deal with your, er, enthusiasm. and, with an obvious lack of enlightening things to pass on to the lads and lassies of sinister, i should probably crawl back into my whole. i hear carrots and hummus calling. "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man." -Jebediah Springfield _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From candelaria66 at xxx.com Sat Apr 15 02:03:38 2000 From: candelaria66 at xxx.com (Luther van der Gaard) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 18:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: oy. Message-ID: <21642614.955760618644.JavaMail.imail@swirly> from the nursery emerged... well, another one to add to the list of millions. i'm happy to be here. really. sure there are a few listers not quite as clever as they think they are, but we're united at least by our love of belle & sebastian. ugh. never a good idea to start off by insulting people. i'll formally introduce myself later, i suppose. the library is closing and they're kicking me out :( imagine, closing at 6 on a weekday. it's an absolute travesty. miss jackson, i was stunned at the outpouring of emotion from your direction. did you ever stop to think that whoever is, er, crushing you may be a complete stranger? anyway whoever he/she is, i hope theyre ready to deal with your, er, enthusiasm. and, with an obvious lack of enlightening things to pass on to the lads and lassies of sinister, i should probably crawl back into my whole. i hear carrots and hummus calling. "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man." -Jebediah Springfield _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From candelaria66 at xxx.com Sat Apr 15 02:28:10 2000 From: candelaria66 at xxx.com (Luther van der Gaard) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 18:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: another first impression Message-ID: <13357775.955762090593.JavaMail.imail@swirly> okay, i realize that sending a second message is probably not a good idea, because we all know that its barely possible to sift through the normal traffic. but unbelievably, ive been granted a reprieve by a poor woman having obvious difficulty printing out her tax forms. her misfortunes have thankfully distracted the mean library wench who would otherwise be telling me to get lost. ahem. maybe this is par for the course around here, but i have terrible difficulty introducing myself to strangers, no matter how badly i want to meet them. its impossible to know what secrets of the universe i could possibly impart within my posts that might make them worth reading to people ive never met. but here's to those who give everything the old college try. and cheers to those who've actually heard "legal man". how are the B-sides? im starved for more B & S. though i do find the recent discussions on stalking the members to be a bit disconcerting. i dont think these people need stalkers.. i think they love wandering about relatively unnoticed. i last saw them on their euro '98 tour. even the most devoted fans seemed to be keeping a respectful distance. well ive said more than enough for today. thanks for reading luv, -rye. "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man." -Jebediah Springfield _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sat Apr 15 04:42:45 2000 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:42:45 PDT Subject: Sinister: toronto sinister checkup Message-ID: <20000415034245.4820.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello Sinister people and my fellow canadians, Suddenly,I am leaving for Toronto tomorrow for the weekend-plus-monday.It's kind of strange...I'm going to a Hair Show.Not the naked hippy dancing kind,but the other kind.Vidal Sassoon will be there.I wonder if he'll like my turqoise hair.I want to see sinisterines,but I don't think anyone knows me.I don't where to go.The Hair Show won't last all day. Last time I was in Toronto was on a school trip to see Rent and sweet Elisa was there..but I was too shy to see her...and now...she's gone to faraway manchester and I hopelessly wandered the streets late at night,and was surprised by lack of acitivity.I went to McDonalds,and that was that.I think a Jessica offered to make me brownies..but shes gone too. And now..no school trip...only that delicious sense of freedom. responding to previous digests: -Struan wears short-shorts and has deliciously taut abs,as I have gathered from the #1 experience of ATP.Would we have expected anything else from that boy?! I knew he loved short-shorts! (Actually,hot pants are really in this season.Its either hot pants or capri pants.Fluffy Sarah,from a long ago discussion of capri-pedal pushin-clam digging pants has scared me right off them,and Struan would look absolutely ridiculous in capri pants.) I shiver with delight! Cameras you drunken fools,cameras. Umm..thats it..sorry! xxx genevieve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Sat Apr 15 05:59:55 2000 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 04:59:55 GMT Subject: Sinister: You can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think Message-ID: <20000415045955.43838.qmail@hotmail.com> Another one bites the dust� Yes, my youngest brother has now nupped the nuptials. I�m just hoping that his wife will start popping out the kiddies like an easy bake oven so that my parents will be so neck high in grandchildren that they�ll forget all about me being single. Right now, I can�t go anywhere without my mom stating her hopes that I�ll meet someone there. It�s highly disconcerting to see her grow so enthusiastic when I get sick & have to go to a doctor. Unfortunately, I didn�t get to go to my brother�s wedding or on my planned road trip. No, I had to stay here and work. At least I'll be able to attend the reception here. I get to be the punch girl. Of course, I was disappointed to hear that I would be serving it instead of throwing them (punches that is). Oh well. I just can't wait till May when all the wedding silliness is over. You just don't know how disturbing it is to have random people say to you "Your brother must be the one I saw in the newspaper who just got married. You look just like him." And I have no clue who these people are. Aren't they suppose to be concentrated on the couple so I can slip into the background? I had hoped that since I was here I would at least get to go to some of the shows here but Noooo. I had to work during those too. Don�t worry, I�m not going to whine. No sir, I�m going to take it like a real girl ... and pout. I hope my face doesn�t freeze this way though because the tinsel might make my tongue tingle when the school children decide to decorate my bottom lip for Christmas. I want to thank everyone who gave their summations of the ATP events. Now, I realize it is OK if I miss out on all of these shows and picnics because I can gleam all of the good parts from other people�s posts (OPP. Yeah you know me). Oh, I noticed how y�all were trying to tantalize us all with de-tales of Stuart�s brawny bruteness as he strutted around shirtless. But really I can�t be shocked anymore. Well, unless an electrical outlet and paperclips are involved. Anyway, the Cliff Notes of the ATP read very nicely and included all of the important aspects... We had the 1. Setting: Someplace where I was not. 2. Plot: From what I could tell there did not seem to be one. MMM, sounds like the makings of a movie blockbuster to me. 3. The Main Characters: The Protagonist: Stu M who was the tall, dark, and handsome football hero. (Well, relatively - he�s taller than a pygamy but not as dark as one. I don�t think he was so much a hero as he was just shirtless.) Then there was Trousers who doesn�t really remember the weekend except for harassing members of numerous bands to pose in llewd ways with the most recent edition of Papercuts. Evidently, you can get on the cover for certain sexual favors.. hehe. Stevie prefers Anita Loos. Gentleman prefer blondes. And I prefer Trompe Le Monde. What that means - I do not know. Miss Scarlett who sat with her sunglasses on her head critiquing members� of various bands fashion sense. With a recent investment of a cattle prod, she was able to escape the whole weekend without being mobbed by her groupees. Of course, David Moore was clad in fatigues and spent most of the time feeling empathy toward Stuart David by being Up A Tree yelling �Swarm! Swarm!� whenever he spotted Stu M selling merchandise. There were Mike, Stuart Shennanigan, Allastares, PF, and other shady characters who were milling about. They just seemed like the mindless happy masses. However, they were mentally taking notes on everything so they could warp into some witty antidote to use in their posts to Sinister. And then there was Lucy Alder. Ok she wasn�t actually there but winning prizes for erotic dancing on a train. She will lead you to believe that she decided to go to Italy on vacation. However, I can safely say without any hints of libel, exaggeration, or jest that she was turned away for being neck up to her bliss to the "How the Grinch Stole Christmas." Ignorance of Dr. Seuss will get you no where.. except for Italy. What did Italy ever produce...besides Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance? D. We also had Villains: NME, Sonic Youth (whose sound apparently didn�t have the refined quality of that of a Sonic Boom), and some other bands of questionable quality. 5. Ironic Situations: Well, this depends on whether you�re using Webster�s or Atlantis Morrisette�s definition. How anyone could classify any of those situations as anything but just plain bad luck is beyond me. Of course, you never can tell what kids will buy these days, especially with that one hand in their pocket doing who knows what. 6. And an Important question: Doth Stu M bleed when he ith pricked? Was Answered: Yeth And on twat note I wilt leave. love & bruised elbows, Laura 'meeting all your Laura Llew needs since 1977' PS-- By the way, I just wanted to say that it is a picture of Dorothy Parker under my name on the picture page. I wanted it to be nice and subtle with just the Parker quote as a hint. Of course, I wouldn�t know subtlety if it did a strip tease, rolled around in red paint, and then kicked in a chorus line fashion while singing �Subtlety is here again� in a Tiny Tim falsetto. If you want a picture of me you'll have to ask Eran. Not that he is privy to any of me but I have a feeling that if anyone could make it sound as if there were Laura Llew fantasy pinups floating around that Eran is the one who could make a signed "Love LL" glossy all the rage. PPS- Thanks out to Richard Pushong who made me believe that there *is* a Santa Claus. (And he likes the pixies!!! & chocolate) *****Laura Llew�s List Member of The Week***** This is for the clever listerine who sports my favorite web page. I especially like their on-line diary which is definitely the most interesting one that I�ve ever read. The entries are short, funny, and quite poetic. This person is & their website is none other than Ted Whalen at http://introvert.net/tew/ (March 13 & 14th are 2 of my favorite entries) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lixibell at xxx.com Sat Apr 15 14:07:59 2000 From: lixibell at xxx.com (alix campbell) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 13:07:59 GMT Subject: Sinister: some sic graffiti that read 'go homo, foreign cum' Message-ID: <20000415130759.28255.qmail@hotmail.com> Mm, Saturday. I woke up early, thinking �It�s my day off, what a fantastic piece of luck, I can watch SMTV Live�. However, after polishing off the pitiful crumbs in the biscuit tin, I fell asleep until noon. Silly me. Youn said: >When I read Alix Campbell's posts I think of Morvern Callar I�m not sure if this is good or bad as I�m a uneddercated sort that hasn�t bothered to read anything vaguely topical since 1987. Someone mail me privately about it. I, of course shall be attending the picnic on the 20th of May, but only because my flatmates think I have lots of friends and I have to make it look like I have a social life. Mind you, telling them I�m going up a hill may not convince them. It is also the day before I leave teenage life FOREVER. I can still remember my tenth birthday and there�s no way that ten years have passed already. I demand a recount. Velcro shoes have come back and are leaving again, aren�t they? They must be if I have a pair, which I do. I ate baked beans for months because I spent too much on them. Not because I really really desperately wanted the shoes, just because I�m not good at planning ahead. I never did like shoelaces though, and I�ll still be wearing the Acupunctures well after everyone has thrown them onto the pyre of last season. I was reading the digest just now, and I read my last post, and I don�t remember writing most of it. I have a terrible memory. It was like reading something from years ago. The human mind is an Absolute Crazy thing. I had odd dreams last night, involving Buffy TVS (it was Sarah Michelle Gellar�s B/day on Friday. She was 23. The chap who plays Xander is actually 29. How madcap is that?) and a secret society stretching many years into the past and future. I am glad that I am not too familiar with my unconscious. I can�t think of anything else to say now. Don�t you hate it when you�re supposed to be angry with someone, then they ring up and you forget and you�re nice to them? Byebye lixi ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.bartilson at xxx.com Sat Apr 15 15:43:34 2000 From: alexander.bartilson at xxx.com (Alexander Bartilson) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 16:43:34 +0200 Subject: Sinister: cheers Message-ID: <004a01bfa6e9$1d7bb2e0$01727180@alex> Hi, I went out yesterday, to a club in the city. It's a synthclub where they play, you know synth music. I really like synth music, well some synth music. I like instrumental synth music like Kraftwerk, Jean Michel Jarre and Tangerine Dream. I also like regular electronic music like Underworld, Orbital, Orb etc. I didn't hear much of either yesterday. They just played a lot of dark, heavy synth-rock (very often with German lyrics odd enough). Didn't like it too much. Also the mood was kind of dark, not very positivism you might want when going out on a Friday night. Not to mention the clothes :-) Anyway, I went there with some of my friends and the problem was this: I don't drink. Please don't think that I'm a dull, extremely tidy person with no sense of fun. I'm not, at least I definitely hope not. I'm just of that opinion that you must be able to have fun without drinking alcohol. I think that if I'm drunk I'm not me, so I think that I have to get drunk to have fun I don't have much self respect. I don't want to be such a person. I don't judge any person who drink, so please don't write angry replies to this. I just wanted to tell you my opinion. Don't really know the meaning of writing the above, maybe just that I find you guys (a impression that I've got anyway) to be intellectual and nice so that you might understand me... Am I a sad person? :-( Anyway, it doesn't seem to be a very easy mission if you want to go out to a club and listen to Belle & Sebastian kind of music. At least not where I live. That's a bit strange, I think B&S's music is dancable. BTW, know where to get a preview listening to "legal man"?? Have a nice day. ///Alexander +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Sat Apr 15 17:24:15 2000 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 17:24:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The dream of all the post-rock beardy kids that hung around here Message-ID: <802568C2.005ACEC5.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Hallo. I've been in email incommunicado for a week. In my absence I see that Jesus has been born and the Guardian have installed some odd new antiseptic wipes in the loos. On the dispenser it says something like 'Better to be safe than sorry! Step one: Take a wipe. Step Two: Wipe the seat with it. Step Three: Throw wipe into toilet'. Are loo seats really that dangerous? Perhaps there have been complaints. Lots of girls 'hover' - did you know that? Also, quite a few people stand up to wipe. Who knows what other things people get up to. I suppose that after reaching a certain age, the finer points of lavatorial etiquette are no longer subject to peer appraisal. RECOMMENDATION SPOT: There's a great little magazine called 'The Chap'. Buy a copy if you can but in the meantime have a look at their website. ( http://www.artfink.demon.co.uk/chap/) The interactive 'Semiotics of Hair' is a particular treat. See if you can find 'The Outlandish' - my favourite. The writers are probably sniggering twits you'd avoid in social situations, but then aren't we all? I'm looking forward to meeting Peter Miller. SKIP THE NEXT FOUR PARAGRAPHS IF YOU'RE BORED OF ALL THIS CAMBER TALK SPOT: I went on the ATP tour too, you know. I don't think I made a big splash. As Mike has said, perhaps my finest hour was jumping up and down singing 'Jet', and I nicked that idea from Alan Partridge. Also, I missed most of the star-studded party in Hewitt et al's chalet, having tired of avoiding men with beards. Not Instead I went back to our chalet with Trousers and Baxendale boy and tried to remember the name of 'The Big Chill' ('The Big Sleep'? NO! 'The Big Blue' NO! 'The Big Bus! ALMOST CERTAINLY NOT!). Also we discussed Momus and the preponderance of bands playing on Sunday with one-syllable names starting with P. We had to beat the gatecrashers from our door. I kind of missed out on the five-a-side too. Alasdair didn't believe me when I said I had been training hard since the last time he saw me fall over a football, so I could only bask in their reflected glory. It really was very exciting, and I'm cross that I missed the first half of the final because of a kitchen mix up and then spent the rest of it choking on chips and avoiding getting ketchup on my fluffy creamy coat. It was nice to see Stuart play but I'm ashamed to have been a part of the post-match hijack of the team's success. If the 'team photo' is ever posted up then you could be forgiven for thinking that Slut Jockey's victory was largely attributable to the ref not spotting that they had fielded two dozen players instead of five. Stuart had some business cards printed up billing himself as 'Camp Psychiatrist'. His plan was to set up a booth next to the merchandise stall, where people could come and gain expert advice on whatever subject was troubling them. Like Lucy in Peanuts but for free. I believe he was talked out of it. I'm not sure if it was 'Legal Man' that I heard in the pub. People said it was, but I think Beanz Meanz Geddes might actually have been playing Brigitte Bardot's 'St Tropez' (aka Eurotrash theme) for a laugh. I mean it was *identical*. RESPONSES TO PEOPLE WHOSE NAMES HAVE FOUR LETTERS AND BEGIN WITH 'Y' SPOT: Youn said lixi's posts remind her of 'Morvern Callar' and lixi wondered what this meant. I read this book and didn't like it much. If Youn means you resemble Morvern then I think she's calling you a weird rave-chick who hides your boyfriend's corpse in an attic and passes his unpublished novel off as your own in order to fund a trip to the Ibiza. Or for some existentialist laugh, I'm not sure. Also, you sleep around a lot. Is this sounding familiar? Yuka pondered: > Why is Scotland called "the land of cakes?" The proper answer (I think) is that it's from a Robbie Burns line probably alluding to oatcakes. I haven't thought up the funny answer yet. Incidentally, no one really calls it the land of cakes, as far as I'm aware. Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nik_ovenden at xxx.com Sat Apr 15 18:37:18 2000 From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 10:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Hairnets and Dog Food...what's an elephant? Message-ID: <20000415173718.14149.qmail@web2103.mail.yahoo.com> It's like a big upside-down squirrel! Well, i've now recovered enough to say the All tomorrow's was quite satisfactory. My lungs still cry out for dope though...and hack up stuff I didn't exactly get value for money (i spent �265 altogether...), but i got to see Alfie, who are greet. I missed snow patrol though...damn Kubrick. Crush votes are certainly the order of the day at present- one is flattering, but two?! I'm not big on ego boosts... If the ladies in 174 who made that pancakes are on the list, then thanks a lot for the pancakes, they were gorgeous. 'Legal man' reminds me of a cross between Sha-na-na and Country joe at woodstock...this is disturbing... Heavenly nods to one and all, Niko xxx 'What you want is for their queue to slow down and yours to speed up. Then you can run past them and say "YES!!! I will eat toast before you!"' -Eddie Izzard, 'Definite Article' PS Laura, if you had the patience to read all the way to this, remember that 'marriage is punishment for shoplifting' (Wayne's World), so don't get hurried into it! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pelican303 at xxx.com Sat Apr 15 19:47:49 2000 From: Pelican303 at xxx.com (Pelican303 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:47:49 EDT Subject: Sinister: What the hell is that thing on my butt? Message-ID: <43.36f19b2.262a1355@aol.com> Dearest Sinister, Well, Its been ages since I posted and I'm sure you all missed me very very little. I just had to come on and whine. I had an infected cyst removed from my ass yesterday. Whoever's keeping track of body part references, I'm quite sure you do NOT want a picture of this. Speaking of which, aren't we owed a picture of Stuie's ginger tufts? I waiting with bated breath (whatever that means). I was wondering, hypothetically speaking of course (ummm), what you all would do if you had an advance copy of the new album available to you. I know alot of people like to wait...I mean, there is definatly something to be said for anticipation and the satisfaction of reaching the end of a long wait. Just curious. All you Torontoians, I just wanna warn you that JC is one bad ass mofo. You better be nice to him or he'll drag you around the streets of Coral Gables exposing you to culture (eeeep!). Later taters. Rob +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From smiley at xxx.uk Sat Apr 15 21:33:10 2000 From: smiley at xxx.uk (Mike) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 21:33:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "It's OK to grow up, as long as you don't grow old" - Pulp Message-ID: <001c01bfa719$d4a0eb40$014c883e@n8j4k7> Hullo chickens, My good friend Juliya Nikolaeff said: >It's part of growing up, Mike - get used to it. I'm not actually afraid of growing up, I'm just marvelling at the massive step between living in a house with my brother and parents and living in a house on my own. >Not to mention nobody knows nothing about >anything to do with music. As a matter of principle I cannot and will not take advise from someone who uses a double negative. Sorry. Oh, and I am, in fact, *not* a "big and strong & tough" guy. I am... well skeletal would be generous. And maybe I'd be quite happy to remain a sulky teenager forever. Oh, and seeing as I'm a sulky teenager you should know that any advice you give me will sound patronising and unreasonable. [Please note the writings above should be read in a jokey voice and not taken at all seriously. I'm just being silly] Love, Mike smiley at rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk http://www.rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com Sat Apr 15 23:57:43 2000 From: andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com (Andrew CHurchman) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 15:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: my prom killed me Message-ID: <20000415225743.7281.qmail@web1607.mail.yahoo.com> hi everyone, well, again i'm here with my old friend sinister to vent a little about just how unlucky i am with love/girls. Actually it's just this one girl, that i've been crazy for the past couple months. Anway, last night was my junior prom...... I was excited, and little nervous. I thought tonight was my chance to forget all the heart brake this girl's put me through, and have a good time. well, looking back now i'm feeling a little down. I got the cold shoulder most of the night, she'd hardly talk, and the worst thing.... after slow dancing for about 30 sec. she suddenly said. " we don't HAVE to do this" and walked away. so, needless to say, i feel like shit. If anyone out there has any comforting words/advice, feel free to e-mail me. * B+S content: I played 3....6...9 seconds of light, about three times driving around with a lump in my throat. thanks for listening, Andrew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nikita1023 at xxx.com Sat Apr 15 22:03:22 2000 From: nikita1023 at xxx.com (Christina DaCosta) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:03:22 PDT Subject: Fwd: Sinister: OFF TOPIC: A question to any eventual New Yorker Message-ID: <20000415210322.4381.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey Linus And yes, most of all New Yorkers are that crazy, and they don't just come out at night. But, oh well, I'm not that crazy and I live in New York now. The soundtrack was pretty GRATE though. Where are you from? Christina >From: Linus >Reply-To: Linus >To: sinister at missprint.org >Subject: Sinister: OFF TOPIC: A question to any eventual New Yorker >Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 02:23:54 +0200 (CEST) > >I'm just watching Bringing out the Dead, and I got to wonder: is all New >Yorkers as weird as the ones in the movie? Just thouhght there were >someone who could tell me... =) > >The music's GRATE, btw. > >Love, Linus. > >------------------------------------- >Linus Rundberg (linus at rockar.lite.nu) >ICQ: 1477980 > >Ite, maledicti, in ignem eternum. >------------------------------------- > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Sun Apr 16 16:58:38 2000 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:58:38 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: IF I cOuLd WriTe PoEtRy... Message-ID: <20000416155838.14063.qmail@web3006.mail.yahoo.com> Hello beautiful ones... I'm back to sinistah land after having visited my family and friends in my home city... I missed you all so much... well, it seems that the PoEtRy PaRrOt that Owen sent over to me here in sunny Greece was waiting for me to come back... I just wish that Owen could fly over here with the parrot... mmmm... but meanwhile, he was so naughty fooling around with my pooter... he went to #sinister and found pretty Julie there (cyberglam) and forced her to post a very very nice poem... isn't he really something? he's going to be a father soon and still he acts like a baby parrot... this must be the most immature parrot I came across in my entire life... he thinks that his glittering blue feathers will get him away with anything... well, not this time... he sits on my shoulder now fiffling like mad... stop it you silly bird... birdy nam-nam... mmmm well, I came up with this poem by Olivia Weatherspoon! it was written in late '40s... she's obviously influenced by the surealists... I found this poem in an anthology... I hope you'll enjoy it... "Linger" * Like a child lost his toys due to some witch's envy of his blissful innocence Reality's our only choice... but be cautious... 'cause miracles take longer but eventually they may come true... and then in a fearful explosion of boundless joy, I'll lean over to you and kiss your lips with hunger springs from all this time of loneliness... and the skies shall open wide to bare my still, tho' amazing happiness... who could blame me... you're lost in your magnetic fields** of vanity... Still, still and frozen into endless despair... will you reply..? I know you won't... As night falls down I'll make a wish to the stars, the same stars you're looking at... may this pain be fruitful... may you look at the stars and wonder about that chill that corresses your ear... may... Suddenly... you came to me and said... It's not me you're looking for... do not put this burden on me... can't stand it... sorry... it's not me, not me.... Just you and your big ideas... Half the way you moved... not even half... and you claim to be the one who had tried harder... so hard indeed... you sold me out in an oriental market... flesh... that is... flesh... Notes: * I'm sorry for any mistakes; thing is I re-translate this poem from greek, so... ** "...magnetic fields of vanity"... I think it's a reference to the book by André Breton and Philippe Soupault "Magnetic Fields" that caused a lot of talk at its era... that was it.. hope you liked it... I want to send the parrot now to Jordi Trenzano in Spain, 'cause the parrot tells me that he loves it here in warm mediteranean countries and he'd love to stay some more before he flies back north... maybe to the country of geordies... Starry, Paul F. ... be prepared!!! bye now... take care all of you sweet peas Love Vel xoxo ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From FakingUpARampage at xxx.com Sun Apr 16 19:46:18 2000 From: FakingUpARampage at xxx.com (FakingUpARampage at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 14:46:18 EDT Subject: Sinister: roses and dandylions.... Message-ID: <10.2337b4e.262b647a@aol.com> i just started thes nice lil post.. but then i messed up and deleted it... this is because a friend of mine are sitting on the phone, iming each other. what a comment on society... !! a while ago puzzle dave said : "People make the same four jokes over and over again.." i'll help!! (tho it wont work cos your a he and its a she joke ... no offense to anyone... but this is one of my favorite jokes of all ever... ) Q - how do you know when a blonds having a bad day? A - she has a tampon stuck behind her ear and keeps asking 'wheres my pencil?'... -- i lent a friend of mine Tigermilk last month, and have been living without it since. i think i complained about this in my previous post, so i shant again. anyway, the other day we were walking to a class and he goes 'oh! i listened to Belle and Sebastian and I loved it" and he then went on to tell me all these things that i already knew about them, like how lovely Straun's voice is... but it made me happy, cos no one that i've had listen to them prior to this has liked them mucho... and now im like "well.. if they do tour.. i dont have to go to the show alone! yay!"... and i thought i would share, cos it made me happy. its muggy today... im sitting here, attempting to organize my cds. i didnt get to go to looper last night... and i dont get to tonite either. ::grumble:: so i think i shall bore you with this now.. cos i dont know what else to add. fresh cut grass... isnt that the nicest smell in the world? for some reason i just got a whift thru my window... may 16th isnt that far away... is it? exes and ohs, Jes +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From scorn-pie at xxx.uk Sun Apr 16 21:03:22 2000 From: scorn-pie at xxx.uk (Victoria Adam) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 21:03:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: deep-fried lettuce References: <802568C2.005ACEC5.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Message-ID: <011801bfa7df$17497960$41c828c3@t4j2q4> Howdy folks My sister admited to reading my e-mail today when she asked me, in genuine sibling concern (if you die do I get your CD collection?), if I'd joined some sort of cult. Ho hum. Yeah, holidays. So today began two weeks of inventive ways not to do revision. I fully intend to do some it's just that all of sudden inventing a recipe for deep-fried lettuce, making gingerbread B&S members (dog on wheels particularly yum) and chewing my own finger off become important activities. Nick.Dastoor said on dangerous toilet seats he Guardian have installed some odd new antiseptic wipes in the > loos. On the dispenser it says something like 'Better to be safe than sorry! > Step one: Take a wipe. Step Two: Wipe the seat with it. Step Three: Throw wipe > into toilet'. Now, being the extremly parinoid type (irrational fears: Shower curtains, cute animals, hidden camreas, forks and yes a self-confessed 'hoverer') so loowipes=goodthing-that should be introduced to vomit splattered ladies' at college. I'm totally for sharing with the community but seats pushes my generosity. Or am i missing the point, maybe the aforementioned toilets are actually dangerous and have a vicious bite. love s.p. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From k.watson at xxx.uk Mon Apr 17 00:26:03 2000 From: k.watson at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 00:26:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 10 Roddington Place Message-ID: Hi everyone, IÂ’m new here, this is my first post, so please go easy on me. I was walking around Edinburgh the other day and in Avalanche, what were they playing but the new Belle and Sebastian long player “Lower your arms child you smell like a gypsy”! It was sounding great in the shop – well done chaps! IÂ’m looking forward to the new single too, “Legal Man”, and also itÂ’s B-sides “Judy is a dick slap”, which is a cover of the RamonesÂ’ “Judy is a Punk” but with added rudeness – who says you canÂ’t shock any more. Also “Winter Wooskie” which is about how nice itÂ’d be to be Chewbacca in the middle of January, with a nice big furry coat to keep you warm. I might come down to London soon to join in the picnic revelry up at Primrose hill – followed by a good old cockney knees up, just like Damon Albarn used to have round the house – what a diamond geezer. Talking of Geezers, I hear Bernard Butler is quitting the music industry to play snooker. ThatÂ’s an interesting one, do any of the other readers know of famous pop stars who have quit the business to play a sport? Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Mon Apr 17 10:08:00 2000 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:08:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: World Twee Picnic Day!! Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69010D152D@park_ex> Hey popkids Cassarootio said: So, after consultations with several of England and Scotland's most dedicated listees (and Alastair Cook - yes, ladies, he will be there in person), unless anyone has any objections or suggestions...Saturday 20th May, Primrose Hill. Then foxinthesnow said: The plan thus far is a nice meet up on May 20th in Parc Lafontaine , close to the lake. I know there's 2 of them but close to the wee cabin that's in the middle. So I thought, lets make SATURDAY 20 MAY WORLD TWEE PICNIC DAY!!!! The Plan goes something like this, if you are in big city/town/area of concentration of B&S lovers MEET UP on 20 May and have a picnic/booze up/game of footy. If, however, you are in the middle of nowhere/work/area of concentration of Slipknot fans, have a picnic ANYWAY(or go into #sinister and have a virtual picnic). Then we can take lots of piccies of us in picnic poses (like this http://www.missprint.org/sinister/picnics/PissedTimAgain.html ) and send them to honey. *steve imagines the headlines "strange internet cult in global picnic madness" "They shouted 'the day of legal man is almost upon us' as they rampaged through the streets of every major city, half empty bottles of cheap red in each hand" Just remember kids, don't drink the Koolaid... I've also got my photos back from ATP (no semi-naked struan i'm afraid) and shall scan them at some point in the near future, no really. Newbie Watson said: do any of the other readers know of famous pop stars who have quit the business to play a sport? Hmm, good question, let's think, well Lars Ulrich from that Metallica used to play tennis for Denmark, but that's the other way round isn't it. How about Davy Jones from them Monkees, he's a jockey. Does Roger Daltrey count as a trout fisher, and Keith with the funny eyebrow from boyzone and, of course, Andrew Ridgeley both drive racing cars very badly. Simon Le Bon's yachting career? No, don't stop me, i could go on all day.... xoxo CarsmileSteve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wayne_fortune at xxx.com Mon Apr 17 12:29:04 2000 From: wayne_fortune at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Wayne=20Fortune?=) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 04:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Whoooooossshhhhhh!!!!! Message-ID: <20000417112904.11842.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all, I'm getting pretty fed up with this constant rain. I was even attacked by a sudden downpour on Saturday after I spotted a bit of blue sky and decided to take my guitar out in the back garden. Nevermind, because what amounts to probably the most exciting thing ever to happen to me goes on this weekend, as I troop down to Silverstone for the British Grand Prix. Or at least it better be the most exciting thing ever for £175 which I can't really afford... Is anyone else going, and if so, do you fancy meeting up for a coffee or whatever? We could form the last bastion of Belle and Sebastian amid a sea of consumerism... Lots of love Ba Ba __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.alder at xxx.uk Mon Apr 17 12:38:46 2000 From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:38:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bedsit infamy, they've all got it in for me! Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F335323D@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk> As Saturday night drew closer, I became increasingly up for a Big Night Out. With a full face of make-up, freshly painted nails and hair that, for once in my life, was behaving itself, I was just hunting for my bus pass when the phone rang. "Sorry Lucy, all our trains into London have been cancelled - we're not going to be able to come". I sighed a little sigh, sat down in my full face of make-up, freshly painted nails and hair that, for once in my life, was behaving itself and switched on Stars In Their Eyes. But what a treat it was! "Tonight, Matthew, I'm going to be Phil Oakey of the Human League" squeaked a weaselish little chap before disappearing behind a cloud of dry ice. After the transformation, the likeness was just uncanny. He had the lopsided haircut, he had the dangly earring, he had the moves, he had the voice, he wanted our love action! He was grand and he should have won, but the audience preferred to vote for a schoolgirl being Kelly Le Rock. Darned teenagers, they're always up to no good. Other treats of the evening included a shit impression of Gary Barlow (as if the real GB isn't shit enough) and a Jennifer Rush with jaw-jut. Prompted by a programme about Jimmy Saville last week, I began thinking about favourite Jim'll Fix Its. I remember one matronly woman whose dream it was to meet Tom Jones. She'd been in the front row at a Tom Jones concert once and he'd wiped his sweaty brow on her hankie, since which time she'd kept it in a plastic bag in her freezer. Jim brought Tom to the lady's house, she dug the hankie out from between the bags of frozen vegetables and he mopped his brow with it once more. The housewife went all wibbly. So, the question I need to ask is if any of the victorious ATP footie team kept a hanky with some of Stu M's blood on it? I'd like to keep it in my freezer. Massive props to Pelican Rob for mentioning infected cysts on the list. One of the 'friends' who blew me out on Friday night can't stand to hear the words 'pus' or 'phlegm' - they give her the willies. I'm thinking about sending her a cyst-laden email to see if it doesn't have the same effect. Rob also wondered what we'd do if we had a copy of the new B&S album. I'm pretty sure I'd decide immediately which song I liked the least and then spend hours and hours trying to decide which one I liked the best. Miss Llew enquired >>What did Italy ever produce...besides Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance? I'm desperately trying to think of Italians who've made an impact on the charts, outside their own country, but I can only think of Sabrina ("Boys, boys, boys, I'm looking for a good time...") Any pop trivialists out there care to help me? For a split second on Sunday morning, I was tempted to enter next year's London Marathon. Then I remembered the cardinal rules of marathon running, as taught to me by my Dad who has done nine of them and was once the first fancy dress runner to cross the line (he was a fairy and David Coleman got his name wrong): Put vaseline on your nipples, otherwise they'll bleed all down your vest Put vaseline on the insides of your thighs, otherwise they'll bleed all down your legs Don't pop that big blood blister anywhere near the living room carpet Don't think about painting your toenails after the race, because you won't have very many left Steer well clear of people who foam at the armpit or look like they'll puke at the finish And on that rather foul and disgusting note, I'll go and get myself some lunch. Buon appetito, amici! Juicy Lucy -- This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather-boa at xxx.com Mon Apr 17 13:01:05 2000 From: feather-boa at xxx.com (feather boa) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 05:01:05 -0700 Subject: Sinister: melody maker questions Message-ID: hello, i know this constitutes list abuse, but my journalistic career probably depends on it. what they want to know is your opinions on Legal Man - is it any good? and should they be making this kind of pop song with the express intent of getting into the chart? and do you really think it sounds like the Eurotrash theme tune? can you please email the lovely carol_clerk at ipc.co.uk with your replies, your name, age, town, and (if possible) a nice net piccy of yourself looking lovely (the lovely part isn't compulsory). sorry again. pip pip, FB X *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.hester at xxx.uk Mon Apr 17 13:11:58 2000 From: m.hester at xxx.uk (Hester, Mark (ELS)) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:11:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bedsit infamy, they've all got it in for me! Message-ID: >I'm desperately trying to think of Italians who've made an impact on the >charts, outside their own country, but I can only think of Sabrina ("Boys, >boys, boys, I'm looking for a good time...") Any pop trivialists out there >care to help me? Lucy, you can add Zucchero, Pavarotti (on his own, with Zucchero, and as part of Passengers with U2 and Brian Eno) and Spagna ('Call Me' n 1987). Mark. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Mon Apr 17 13:42:20 2000 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (the angel blackwell) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:42:20 EDT Subject: Sinister: one two buckle my shoe... Message-ID: <20000417124220.12255.qmail@hotmail.com> hmmm...had a very, very long weekend. rogers video had a deal for renting 7 videos for cheap...we rented 7 vid's and then i watched them over two days...we were trying for an 80's theme but no molly...i have now seen airplane, bill & ted's, valley of the dolls, the blob (80's remake) predator, texas chainsaw massacre, and pink flamingo...i didn't do very well on the 80's theme...oh well...but sitting and watching all those bluddy movies in two sittings...and all with my ex bf...just odd...my ex is now my immeadiate neighbour, and i've spent way too much time with him...sad note though...2 of my ex's friends came over...they both just found out they're hiv+...one's only 20...sad...be careful everyone... ummm...oh yeah, i really want that new cd...the ep or lp...just need new material...got the travis cd...easy listen...found my trashcan sinatras and frazier chorus cd's...people at my work don't like them, but they just don't understand...btw, frazier chorus do a cover of anarchy in the uk that's amazing... ummm...now b/c of debbie and di not being in town, i've gotta find a place to go for drinks where the bartenders aren't drag queens, or scantily clad men... the angel blackwell... ps...for the sinisters that don't drink when they go out, good for you...i wish i wasn't so scared of large crowds of people... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pelican303 at xxx.com Mon Apr 17 13:52:12 2000 From: Pelican303 at xxx.com (Pelican303 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:52:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: Bedsit infamy, they've all got it in for me! Message-ID: <9d.434df22.262c62fc@aol.com> Lucy, I would like to congratulate you for absoluting outdoing me...as if my problem weren't enough, you gave us a list including bleeding nipples (which somehow seems much worse) and giant blood blisters. I, personally, handle pus much better than blood. Uh oh...I better find some content quick. Any of you NCers feel like meetin up on this grand Twee Picnic Day? I know there are a bunch of you out there. Let me know, I'd love to meet you. As for Italians, I can't think of any pures, but the list of Italian-American contributions is huge ("That'sa spicy meat-a ball-a" ------->"Aaaadriiiaaaaan" Eeek...gotta get to class. Rob (le mod) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Mon Apr 17 13:58:50 2000 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:58:50 -0400 Subject: Sinister: crabs! Message-ID: <000901bfa86c$a5c13420$2d02a7d1@yesic.com> ha! gottcha! after posting about bum eels i figured any lewdsounding marine creature would surely net me another list crush vote. thanks to whoever was btw, don't worry i'll never find out i'm too shy to actually vote for anyone in case they have voted for me and then we'd both find out and then i'd blush and do the email equivalent of running away and never talking to them again or drinking too much whenever i meet them socially until my drunken antics and otherwise furtive and weird behaviour turn them off completely and i know there's no danger of me ever ever ever accidentally touching them in case some sort of 'liking' explosion takes off and we'd have to hold hands in public and such. phew. so yes. i'm shocked and horrified that the sinister list band has gone by the wayside. maybe what we need is a tribute tape project. then you could hear various international sinisterines abusing accoustic guitars and belting it out for one and all. that may be sort of like torture, i'm sorry i mentioned it. but think! yes it could be so fun. like robyn i went on sinister chat and was completely weirded out. so i stopped that entirely. no more chatting for me. not even in real life. i make such an ass of myself in conversation. not like in email where i am a paragon of good sense and wisdom... er. also like robyn and ben and all other sinister types in north america...i think that stum playing soccer with NO SHIRT is just so spectac. really, you uk types complain about bearded men and dronerock bands and that just shows how little you've really got to complain about. for real. you don't really have winter for example. or hockey. or beavers and mounties clogging your streets. or no really good bands who live in your city and play all the time and are people you meet in drinking establishments and record stores. really, i mean every now and again i run into don mckellar or that gawky dork from sloan, but thats it. and mo berg, but no one even knows who he is outside of canada. oh, and dave bidini, he goes to shows lots too. but i mean, moe berg is kind of lame no? at work today i noticed that beared men (not bearded men with trendy hair cuts, or with any tacky things like bad jeans or pony tails) have beardy pants. and these are BEARDED men i'm talking about, we mostly do classical music concerts at the glenn gould so these are classically bearded men and they all wear different pants than their clean shaven contemporaries. for real, theres just something about the *fit* of them, that screams BEARD! i bet they wouldn't even sell them to me if i asked. hey list, nice shoes! s t e v e n k a d o ! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brandtpfundak at xxx.com Mon Apr 17 14:24:52 2000 From: brandtpfundak at xxx.com (Brandt Fundak) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 06:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: And how was your weekend? Message-ID: <20000417132452.19192.qmail@web1803.mail.yahoo.com> This message is not about Belle and Sebastian, apart from the fact that by the time the weekend was over I had effectively holed up in my apartment and felt that I should clean, so I put my Belle and Sebastian cds away. Basically my weekend in a nutshell: The Good: 1. Had a job interview for a job where my salary would increase by about 33% of my current salary. 2. Found out IRON CHEF is on Sundays as well. 3. Bought a new Television. 4. Did laundry and dishes and felt overall productive. The Bad: 1. My car got stolen. 2. My old TV died, necessitating buying a new TV 3. Laundry in my building costs $1.25 for a wash, $1 for a dry. So I ended up doing a lot of reading and listening to Field Mice. Not an up weekend. Brandt ===== "Selma, Jub Jub is fantastic! He's everywhere you want to be!" --Troy McClure __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.hester at xxx.uk Mon Apr 17 15:27:22 2000 From: m.hester at xxx.uk (Hester, Mark (ELS)) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:27:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Frazier Chorus, among other things Message-ID: I think I may have been asble to post to the list for ages without realising it....the nursery door was swinging on its squeaky hinges for days, bright sunlight streaming in from outside, yet somehow I failed to notice. Here in Oxford, the weather continues to do weird things, it was giant hailstones a moment ago. On Saturday night I went to see Hefner, supported by Murray the Hump. The venue (the Point) was really really crowded so that Hefner's singer Darren called out "Who booked this place then? surely there are larger venues in Oxford?" to which somebody shouted back "Yes, my house!" B&S played here once, just after LLPJ came out, the queue was huge and I didn't get in. It was one of the biggets disappointments of my life. Well done the Angel for mentioning Frazier Chorus. It's hard to imagine them doing a cover of 'Anarchy in the UK' though (or is this a joke?). They sounded so fey (but not twee) most of the time as I recall. The songs I remember are quite magical, such as Dream Kitchen and Nothing. I wish I actually owned those two albums, 'Sue' and 'Ray' but I suspect they've made the sorry step from bargain bin to Deletion by now. I did actually buy 'Ray' from Boots (hardly the nation's premier record retailer) but when I got it home I found that it played BACKWARDS and I did not particularly want to feel like I was participating in that particular part of 'Cheggers Plays Pop' so I took the cassette back to the shop. Unfortunately they didn't have another copy in stock so I had to settle for the cash as there was nothing else there I fancied (no-one else either, for that matter). Here comes the rather functional sig. file, so you can all guess what an Assistant Local Applications Manager does, should you want to. Mark. -------------------------------------------------- Mark Hester Assistant Local Applications Manager Elsevier Science Limited The Boulevard Langford Lane Oxford OX5 1GB Tel. +44 (0)1865 843455 Fax +44 (0)1865 853319 Web: http://www.elsevier.nl/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Mon Apr 17 15:34:55 2000 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:34:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: He was the prince of infidelity Message-ID: <802568C4.0050CA59.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> I'D RATHER UNION JACK THAN STEEPLEJACK >also like robyn and ben and all other sinister types in north america...i >think that stum playing soccer with NO SHIRT is just so spectac.  really, >you uk types complain about bearded men and dronerock bands and that just >shows how little you've really got to complain about.  for real.  you don't >really have winter for example. but we *want* winter. It used to snow in London when I was a kid. No more. It rained all last week. Because the weather is so changeable no one is equipped for it. Houses don't have roofs, for example. And in 'summer' we all die. > or hockey. We do! Many moons ago, a renegade public schoolboy had this great idea of melting all the ice with his flaming arse and replacing the puck with a ball. It works well, although everyone falls over a lot, what with ice skates not being very stable on grass. > or beavers and mounties clogging your streets. No, but we have otters and beefeaters. They're a pest. > or no really good bands who live in your city and > play all the time and are people you meet in drinking > establishments and record stores. I *never* see famous people in London. Oh, that's not true. I saw Hugh Scully and Alan Bennett once, but not together. Also, Jude Law used to hang around our school an awful lot. But none of them can play indie-pop for toffee. We have to go to the East Sussex coast to see anyone good. Or Mike and Pam's house. And really, it's not all that great seeing people you admire in the flesh. I mean what are you supposed to say to them? It's all very embarrassing. You just end up cringing at the way people hang around them and strike up dire conversations, knowing you couldn't do any better. It's just too unequal a relationship. You know so much about them (or think you do) and they know nothing about you. And unless they fancy you, what reason have they to want to find out. They just end up having to be polite or rude. The only way it works is if you have a mutual friend, just as in any other social meeting. I suppose bands play a lot, but I'm not much of a concert-goer. Let's keep live music dead. The only band I want to see all the time never do, which is probably just as well or I'd be broke. >really, i mean every now and again i run into don mckellar >or that gawky dork from sloan, but thats it.  and mo berg, who? >but no one even knows who he is outside of canada. ah. RECOMMENDATION SPOT (I LIKE THIS GAME) All this pining for Britain reminded me of "Richard Smith's Compendium of Britishisms" (http://toronto.planeteer.com/~rsmith/phrases.htm). I forget how I stumbled across this moronic page. Its humour derives from a combination of innaccuracies, bizarre inclusions ('top sad', anyone?) and the dream that people might actually read it and come over saying things like "Mucker, that donkey's breakfast is abso-bloody-lutely brill - must buy one goes like stink!" ROB'S DILEMMA >I was wondering, hypothetically speaking of course (ummm), >what you all would do if you had an advance copy of the >new album available to you.  I know alot of people like to >wait...I mean, there is definatly something to be said for >anticipation and the satisfaction of reaching the end of a >long wait. I thought about this at the bus stop the other day. The 341 came but it wasn't due for another six minutes, so I refused to get on. I have a policy of only getting on buses if they come at the scheduled time. If everyone boycotted all those 'wrong buses' then perhaps they'd get their timekeeping act together. Anyway, it's such a thrill when a bus finally arrives on time that it's worth the wait. Say no to the pre-release menace, Rob. TWEE ICONS AREN'T WHAT THEY USED TO BE As if 'Cock Fun' and 'Judy is a Dick Slap' weren't enough of a kick in the teeth for us all, check this out: The Times: April 15 2000 Little prince falls to earth as neurotic philanderer FROM ADAM SAGE IN PARIS THE most successful writer in French history and hero to generations of Gallic children, Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, has been knocked off his pedestal by the posthumous publication of his wife's memoirs. The author of The Little Prince is portrayed as a weak-willed womaniser who left his Latin American wife humiliated and frustrated. "He was the prince of infidelity," said the magazine, L'Express. Written in 1946 by Conseulo de Saint-Exupéry, to whom the writer was married for 13 years, the memoirs were left to gather dust in a trunk after she died in 1979. Discovered by a gardener three years ago, they were given to the historian, Alain Vircondoloet, who has published them on the hundredth anniversary of Saint-Exupéry's birth. The book amounts to a frontal assault on the heroic status enjoyed by the writer and pilot ever since his death in the Mediterranean during an undercover mission in the struggle against the Nazis in 1944. Far from being the brave, strong, creative hero that the French remember, Saint-Exupéry emerges as an anguished soul incapable of satisfying his wife and fleeing into the arms of his mistresses. Mme de Saint-Exupéry, who was born in El Salvador, recounts their wedding night, for instance. "At the hotel he lay down, fully dressed, on the sofa. He woke up the next morning." With his mistresses, he appears to have been more active. His wife reveals how he "would return home with his handkerchiefs covered in lipstick". One of his mistresses, Elvira, a 26-year- old aristocrat, according to M Vircondolet, would telephone at 4am. "I know your husband is not asleep," she once said when Mme de Saint-Exupéry picked up the phone. To another he wrote passionate love letters to say that he would be prepared "to spend seven years at sea with you, my darling". A third hid in the bathroom when Mme Saint-Exupéry arrived. "I saw the skirt of a woman dressed in green. My husband was red and feverish and shouting with anger. It was all a mixture of farce and tragedy." The author suggested a journey to China as reconciliation. But his wife guessed the real reason for the trip. "It's because you like Chinese women, isn't it?" she said. "Yes, Conseulo, I like little, silent women," he replied. Mme de Saint-Exupery tells how they repeatedly moved homes when her husband failed to pay the rent, having squandered his earnings. They eventually separated but met again in Pau, southern France, during the war, about a year before his death. "I wanted to kiss him, to take him in my arms," say the memoirs. "He closed his eyes and murmured 'I would so much like to sleep'." Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Twee adj. Brit. excessively sentimental, sweet or pretty. [C.19 from 'tweet', mincing or affected pronunciation of SWEET] ie. NOT GOOD (Collins Millennium Dictionary) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Paulfie at xxx.uk Mon Apr 17 15:36:09 2000 From: Paulfie at xxx.uk (Paul Field) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:36:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I live here. Message-ID: Hello again all! Everybody seems most perturbed by the lack of photographic evidence of Mr. Murdoch's bare-chested exploits last weekend...being of the Argonian red-headed origin with little tufts of chest hair myself, I am willing to sell photographs of my chest. Any takers? Hmm. I guess I will think of some other way to make my fortune. Then again, maybe I will just make some fortune cookies. Ok. Some free advice: Don't leave the coffee machine on all weekend with just a tiny amount of coffee in the morning and then immediately fill the jug with cold water. Things tend to break and you could end up cutting your finger. Not that I would ever do something so ludicrous you understand. Huge applause to Vel for sending some poetry by Olivia Weatherspoon...she is wonderful. I don't claim to be any kind of an expert when it comes to poetry, but I do love her work. Her pubs are cheap too. Though they tend to be full of old men without any arms. They have intravenous drips attached directly to the barrels. Italians: Were Renée and Renata Italian, or were they just faking it? Save your love...what a classic! I think I was about 6 at the time it came out, and my sister had it on 7". I bet it's worth a bomb now. In more ways than one. Also, shouldn't Chelsea F.C.'s cup final songs qualify as Italian chart entries? The lighthouse family are from Newcastle though, and the Bigg Market there is something like Milan I believe. OK. Enough gibberish from me for one day. BMX boys have a lot of fun... Paul. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From strappingarab at xxx.com Mon Apr 17 16:10:23 2000 From: strappingarab at xxx.com (robert smith) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:10:23 PDT Subject: Sinister: i hate deadlines Message-ID: <20000417151023.24979.qmail@hotmail.com> hello everyone, finally the easter holidays have arrived! 2 whole weeks without university! this however has been dampend a little by the fact that i have two nasty essays to do. they should of been in by now but i made the silly mistake of going to visit my friend in sweden. before i did this i convinced myself that while over their i would do some work. i never really convinced myself, but i'd made such a grand effort i thought i'd go anyway. still at least i managed to get some more time by charming my tutors with an unforgivable amount of toadying. nevermind. i don't suppose anyone on the list has any thoughts about the influence of byron on russian literature? if you do an e-mail would be great. (better not be to the list though as this would probably get up peoples noses). i'm off now to find some more inventive ways of wasting time. bye p.s thanks to everyone who said how much they liked williams days. because of how lovely you all were willaim shall return with another page of nothing happening. bye again ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From freezebum at xxx.com Mon Apr 17 17:50:11 2000 From: freezebum at xxx.com (yellow bananas) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:50:11 GMT Subject: Sinister: legal man - literally Message-ID: <20000417165011.93720.qmail@hotmail.com> here's the conversation between my friend and the cop who stopped the car cos we were doing corners at 60km/h. cop: show me your driver's license. my friend: sure. cop: when was your last drink? my friend: 10 i think, it was coke. cop: the powder kind? my friend: no, the black liquid, fizzy kind. cop administers breathalyser test. cop: have you had any listerine? (what kind of drug euphemism is listerine? ) my friend: no. although i do prefer plax. cop: did you have any lollies? my friend: i just brushed my teeth. and the b & s content? get me IYFS was playing the whole time. another mindless post, huey ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox at xxx.com Mon Apr 17 19:55:10 2000 From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:55:10 GMT Subject: Sinister: Something About... Passing The Football Message-ID: <20000417185510.26073.qmail@hotmail.com> I have been struck by the amount of stuff churned out of the earth, not to say the turf, by the sinister tractor. There's been a lot of impenetrable talk about 'The Eurotrash Theme Tune'. What's all that about? I think too many folk are watching too much bad TV around here. I keep seeing references to 'Ant and Dec', 'GMTV', 'CDUK' and the like. Next thing we know, it'll be the Sporty Spice & Lulu Fan Club and Noel's Late Late Breakfast Show. Keep TV at Saturday 12:20 and 10:30, kids, any more is dangerous. The Hewitt talked about worldwide picnics, very cogently. But why the reference to bottles of cheap red? Are they the picnic drink of choice since I've been away? I don't know, in my day it was cans of cheap lager; baguettes; large crisps; talk about Dostoyevsky; East European classical CDs (I'm *still* waiting for that CD to come on at a party. Whatever happned to it?); Carol Decker, if you were lucky. Black Box were Italian, no? She, or whichever she it was, certainly sang like a wounded stallion, not to mention a chicken. Speaking of which, why do some of us harbour falsified nostalgia for late-80s Melody Maker when it proclaimed the mid-summer UK top 3 singles the best on, so to speak, record? Only we can say, and we're not, cos we can't. Lucy A and Paul F seemed to request visual, and preferably visceral, evidence of the Murdoch footy palaver. The curious thing about the event was that there was *no evidence*. Cameras stayed unfilled, binaural mics stayed sheathed, blood was spilled but went uncollected. I'm just wondering which of us will be the first to crack and admit that *it didn't happen at all*. Darn! I just did. Nick D was really bang on the money on those UK / US / or was it Canada? polarities. He said: we want to have a proper winter. And we do, and once upon a time we did, like he said. He added: we do play hockey. Which some folk do, which, whatever its other egregious effects, once allowed Barry Davies to cry 'Where were the Germans? And frankly, who cares?'. He said further that we don't see famous people in these parts. And naturally we don't, save in precisely the ways that he enumerated. I'd only substitute Simon Callow for Alan Bennett, and Scully for that matter, and her partner Alan Moulder. If there's one famous London person you can see whenever you want, it's Simon Callow. He's your man if you're into bow-tied oblivious struts. Come to that, rumours and sighs abound. The boy Trouss� once saw the Modfather himself, the Weller - but which was the more impressed by the encounter? Steady M once saw the Sundays, without even paying. Still, this is just talk; it's written on the wind, it's everywhere I go. They say that all good things must end some day ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Mon Apr 17 20:22:47 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: sodding Angry Testical Pinchers Festival. Message-ID: <20000417192247.16906.qmail@web615.mail.yahoo.com> SOD ATP! Sorry, but I don't want to hear another bluddy word about it. So you had a grate time. Oh yeah, wonderful. Well, can we like, just get on with things now, please? ATP, thats sooooo last week! So, while you lot were trying to be all cool to mogwai and things, I was busy fixing a deal to own the world, which is currently under pants. There are shares available to be bought in my new governmental system, and the more you buy, the more lax I shall be towards you over breaking any of my new laws now in place. which are as follows: 1. No mention of ATP before or after the event. Treat it like sex. keep the details to yourself. Do we really need to know what a major event of your lifetime it was? punishment: Britney Spears force fed into your working environment, by karoke, or bad commerical MW radio, until bedtime 2. No eating mashmallows without offering me one first punishment: having a discussion Margaret Thatcher about society when she was in power and undestanding the reasoning behind the poll tax. 3. clothes shops must be forced to sell clothes below the price of �30 per item in order to make it more accessible. You too gucci. punishment: wearing shellsuits, sidey pony tails and those boot like trainers and being forced to do 30 minutes a day work out to 2 unlimited. S+M for sporty spice types. 4. do not interupt me when I am daydreaming. punishment: having an alarm clock strapped to your body which rings whenever you are allowed to go to toilet. and so the list could go on... haven't made my mind up about the rest of the laws yet, but trust me, their tough, unfair and ridiculous. by the way, I had a lovely weekend. dinner, champagne, prostitutes (well, walked past a few and wondered where they do "it" with punters) and maltesers from the mini bar. OH! AND I SAW SOMEONE I KNOW ON "LOVES LIKE A DOG!" THE ONE LAUREN LAVERETORY SLAGGED OFF! THE ONE WITH THE SPOOKY BABYS CRIB AND THE YOUNG MUM! I KNOW HER! AND THE "DAD"! so there you go. All hail me. yadda yadda yadda. remember, no more ATP mentions. By the way, now I own the word, I'm thinking of making sinister village my capital. Providing you all behave yourselves otherwise I'll make it a camp prison. Trust me. I can make it scary for you. love, Idles. ===== http://www.geocities.com/idleberry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keleidoscopic at xxx.com Mon Apr 17 20:42:54 2000 From: keleidoscopic at xxx.com (Chris Paluch) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: My Punk Rock Roommate Message-ID: <20000417194254.22645.qmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Hello sinister People, I finally have a reason to write a message, a few days out of the nursery. My blinded by revolution roommate is in Washington DC, it is a pretty good bet that he has either been arrested or sprayed with pepper spray. I have no clue how this has anything to do with Belle and Sebastian, other than the fact he has a few mix tapes with B&S songs on them. However, on a may related note, does anybody have any plans for the twee picnic in or around Chicago, IL...because i know there is some B&S fans in that area, and taking the size of this list there has to be at least two from Chicago, if so please email me. I wish i had more to say, but alas I live the boring life of a student. Chris P. ===== The sole member of the Lost Letter Society A society dedicated to turtle lovers everywhere. Http://www.mp3.com/LostLetterSociety __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From melvisco at xxx.com Mon Apr 17 21:04:24 2000 From: melvisco at xxx.com (molly dahl) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:04:24 -0400 Subject: Sinister: what do you do with a dead rat? Message-ID: <2D62F42DA8414D11781300807CFBC69C@melvisco.francemail.com> Hello all. I am in quite the quandary. I'm sitting here in my sister's and brother-in-law's apartment in a room with a dead rat. Yes, it has indeed kicked the bucket. It was my sister's pet rat, Elenor... may she rest in peace. Mind you, Elenor was getting on in rat years, so it was just her time, I reckon. You see, I am pet watching while they're both in New Mexico. Now what do I do? This is horrible! There's no possible way I'm going to touch it. Eww. I hate dead things. Perhaps a large kitchen utensil, like a spoon or tongs would do. Eww eww eww. And to make things worse, I let their rabbit Ronnie out, who has attention defecit disorder, and now he's running amuck. Well, I best get back to planning my approach to getting a deceased rat out of a cage. B&S content: I'm growing weary of having people trying to turn my badges right side up! The nerve! R.I.P. Elenor xoxo molly Francemail Votre email gratuit. http://www.francemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dhooper at xxx.com Mon Apr 17 21:36:17 2000 From: dhooper at xxx.com (Dan Hooper) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:36:17 -0700 Subject: Sinister: When the Moon Hits Yer Eye . . . Message-ID: Hello to all of you whom I don't post to as often as I should . . . . Lucy Alder posed the following head scratcher . . . I'm desperately trying to think of Italians who've made an impact on the charts, outside their own country, but I can only think of Sabrina ("Boys, boys, boys, I'm looking for a good time...") Any pop trivialists out there care to help me? We have to go back a few years, and I'm not so sure about their influence outside the You Ess of Eeeh, but Dean Martin had more than a few chart toppers. "That's Amoré" (When the Moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's amoré) and "Kick in the Head" (She's tellin' me we'll be wed, she's pickin' a king size bed, tell me quick, ain't that a kick in the head"). And Frank Sinatra, whose list of hits need not be recounted here. And what about Frank Stallone with "Eye of the Tiger"? Italian-Americans all, it's true. But proud of their Italian roots none the less. Do they count? All the Best Daniel Hooper +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Mon Apr 17 21:48:12 2000 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:48:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: Will the fight for our sanity be the fight of our lives? Message-ID: <74.2cfc03e.262cd28c@aol.com> I caught the Flaming Lips and Looper twice this past weekend; once in Baltimore and again in Philly with Lauren Tigerxdare of the Sinister illuminati. Looper was pretty neat, they sounded alot better this time than when they headlined their own tour this past summer...more meat to the music and better tunes. Stuart said the exact same jokes (verbatim) two nights in a row, but he definitely seems alot more comfortable as a front man than he did before. He even mentions South Park in one of the new that goes something like "These things almost make me smile..". I thought he looked really sickly, like he had TB or something, but maybe thats just him. I still can't give myself entirely to them, but Lauren seemed to get a huge bang out of them, so I'll leave it to her to give us a good review. The Flaming Lips, however, must be experienced. I'm sure most of you caught them at Bowlie, so you're already aware of this, but anyone who hasn't seen them live is really missing out. It was easily the best show I've ever seen, because it wasn't so much of a show as it was an event. Confetti, rabbit suits, strobe lights, disturbing background films, smoke machines, theremins, fake blood, and, of course, the ever-present 3 ft. gong...it was fucking brilliant man. It was a pretty good approximation of an acid trip, all in all. All the drums and strings and whatnot were played from the CD over the PA, while the three members played all the bass/guitar/piano and vocals. I agree with Nick, that albums are so much better than concerts (although I do like concerts), and the Flaming Lips were sort of the synthesis between recorded medium and live performance. I urge anyone with the opportunity to catch them on the last few dates of their tour to do so...you won't regret it! Doeas anyone laugh like an ass during those "When Animals Attack" specials? I guess its supposed to be really serious and dramatic and stuff, but when they have they supposedly "tame" animals just going apeshit and mauling some unassuming passerby, I can't help it...sue me. I heard Christa Chaffiinch, a Sinister-ite formerly of DC, moved to Philly recently...is this true? I'd email her privately but I'm guessing she had her screen name changed if she did move. Elian Gonzalez *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Which Paul?" "BLAH!" visit http://callowkids.tripod.com or your crush will hate you forever +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From calumn at xxx.uk Mon Apr 17 22:52:00 2000 From: calumn at xxx.uk (Calumn Shearer) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:52:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: You can keep your Bedsit Infamy, I'll break your legs if you stop me dancing In-Reply-To: <200004171325.OAA16021@missprint.org> Message-ID: <000001bfa8b7$3713f6c0$3c01a8c4@calumn> and yes, it's a reference to Baxindale, for them's that wants one. (Papercuts CD... "Music For Girls"... Sheer Brilliance... Why did nobody warn me?) anyway... Juicy Lucy Alder wrote: and also: > "Tonight, Matthew, I'm going to be > Phil Oakey of > the Human League" > He had the lopsided haircut which was all true: I saw the programme as well. I did prompt me to think, however, that they must use the same "curl under" wig for Phil and Sandy "beach" Shaw. the only difference is that Sandy gets both sides of the wig. > Miss Llew enquired, some time back... > >>What did Italy ever produce...besides Michelangelo, > >>Leonardo da Vinci, and > >>the Renaissance? or, to quote The Python... "what have the Roman's ever given us..." And the omnipresent (in this e-mail at least) Jooster Looster Replied: > I'm desperately trying to think of Italians who've made an > impact on the > charts, outside their own country, but I can only think of > Sabrina ("Boys, > boys, boys, I'm looking for a good time...") Any pop > trivialists out there > care to help me? Well, if if it's Top Pop Italians that you want: <> Suicide Sonnets, including our very own listmember Marco#7, hasn't quite hit these rocky shores yet, but once it does, boy! It'll be huuge! ("come on in, boys... have a cigar") but to answer your question: the one, the only (hit by) Joe Dolce. (see below for a full description, but basically...) Joe Dolce is a platinum awarded musician and composer. He is most well known for his song Shaddap Your Face which sold 5 million copies in fifteen countries. as "Joe Dolce Music Theatre", Shaddup Your Face was the UK #1 from 28/2/81 until 07/03/81 when it was cruelly kicked off by Roxy Music "Jealous Guy" - a song inspired by Joe himself! http://www.starnet.com.au/dwomen/SYF.html has screeds of *really* interesting stuff about the song, honest... Just in case you think I'm on a bit of a Joey-D kick here, I'l move on... Keith spake thusly: > do any of the other > readers know of > famous pop stars who have quit the business to play a sport? Hello, and welcome to the list, Keith. I belive that the aformentioned Joseph P Dolce left the world of excruciatingly bad pop (or indeed P!O!P) to become a taxi driver in Rome. Not actually an olympic sport yet, but it's pretty close to Formula One. Sorry. back onto Joe there for a while. (oh, well) I'm going to follow this message with an "unsubscribe", but don't worry, I'm just moving e-mail accounts and I'll be back to full-time lurking real soon now. Yours, All yours, Calumn "the big Scottish Pishhead" some of this e-mail may not be entirely true. don't blame me - you're reading it! Meet Joe Dolce (this is all true, folks...) Joe was born in Painesville, Ohio, late in life. His early musical training started when his father kicked a hole in his drum. He studied with the local accordion teacher for about a year but gave it up when the lesson was on at the same time as his favourite TV show, 'Zorro'. Early inspiration came from his mother swooning over Dean Martin, his father's critical analysis of The Beatles, 'They'll last a week,' and attending a performance of Jose Feliciano playing 'Flight Of The Bumblebee' on the acoustic guitar while his seeing-eye dog chewed through the power cord. He studied architecture at Ohio University for two years but, after smoking a marijuana cigarette, fell behind in his studies. Desperate to make something of his life, he dropped out to form a folk -rock band called 'THE HEADSTONE CIRCUS' with singer JONATHAN EDWARDS. Espousing the hippie lifestyle, Joe moved to California and lived on the free love commune, Star Mountain, (however, they still made him pay,) where he cooked polenta for the community of twenty, and wrote, 'MY HOME AIN'T IN THE HALL OF FAME', which was recorded by EDWARDS, ROSALIE SORRELS, and J.D. CROWE AND THE NEW SOUTH. In Berkeley, he foolishly married and blessedly had two children, working with modern dance, and doing renovations, any kind of work, really, to support his deepening addiction to music. Within three years, he had become hopelessly dependent, consuming three packs of strings, two harmonicas and several dozen picks a week. In desperation, he enrolled in a correspondence course with the Betty Ford clinic (actually, he wrote to Gerald). He started rebuilding his life. He moved to Australia in 1979 and between then and now, has worked in film and television, and watched a lot of videos. He received the ADVANCE AUSTRALIA AWARD in 1982, but misplaced it. Since meeting LIN 'June Carter' VAN HEK, his life has turned around. This generally has meant that he goes out when he intends to come in. Within the last two years, Maestro Dolce has taken to composing more classically inspired works. He wrote and performed a 15 part song cycle, 'WHEN THE LIPS AND THE SKIN REMEMBER', from the poems of Greek poet, C.P. CAVAFY, premiered to great acclaim in Melbourne's Greek Antipodes Festival. His first oratorio, 'JOAN ON FIRE', was performed twice recently by THE MELBOURNE CHAMBER ORCHESTRA and CHORELATION, (but they'll never admit it.) The MELBOURNE CHAMBER SINGERS, performed one of his short choral works, 'A GIRL IS BORN IN BETHLEHEM,' in November, 1998. Recently completed new works include 'NARCISSUS' (a choral work of 13 miniatures for unaccompanied choir), 'ANNA'S BOX' (an opera, based on a story by LIN VAN HEK, for SATB soloists, orchestra, string quartet and Klezmer band), 'AND LET THE WONDER IN' (a 14 movement choral work based on a theme by Ani Difranco.) His more avant-garde works include an UNTITLED piece of white paper, (with nothing on it,) but naturally, he doesn't expect the mainstream public to support this aspect of his oeuvre.) He was recently commissioned to compose the Dolce ChamberBlues project (for blues harmonica and string quartet) for the 1999 CASTLEMAINE STATE FESTIVAL, as well as teaching himself composition and orchestration (when it doesn't conflict with 'Zorro' reruns.) <<<>>> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kpc98c at xxx.UK Tue Apr 18 01:40:22 2000 From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 01:40:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Wimper Woosie Message-ID: <200004180041.BAA14737@missprint.org> Hello people, All last week I was reading Sinister mail and there weren't that many, then I just came back from York for 4 days and suddenly there are ~250,000 characters' worth of them waiting for me to read!! A lot of those mail were about going to the ATP, which I didn't go, and now I'm jealous... so I'm going to boast about my fun packed few weeks to revenge! Betted on "Young Kenny" in the Grand National purely relying on the belief that Since Ken (me) is ultra wicked cool that anything with the name Ken in it is gonna be nothing but BLUDDY GRATE, well, that stupid thing just died (not literally) after like the second hurdle and I have to kiss 4 quid goodbye... Then done not much after that apart from going swimming after not having gone swimming for 5 years and realised that... 1. I can no longer swim 2. I couldn't swim 5 years ago almost drowned in the 1.7 metre deep bit (I hate being short) and scraped my knee at the bottom of the pool in the shallow 1m bit.. Then went juggling in York last weekend, it was GRATE as usual, as everyone there are almost as twee and nice as all the sinister people, even those the yound kid wasn't impressed as I shouted "Boo!" when he was playing giant Jenga. Saw a guy juggling seven clubs whilst bouncing a ball on his head which is funking amazing. Then came back and wrote a computer BattleShip server for the university group project where everyone else had done no work and our project is dying. Writing a BattleShip server is boring. In case you're ever tempted to write a BattleShip server. I just read idleberry said that her boyfriend will be coming over to shag her this weekend, how comes my girlfriend isn't coming over this weekend to shag me???? Better shut up before you all kill me or force me to listen to Robbie Williams or look at his smug grin... Go-peds and RedBulls to you all! Ken P.S. : Just remembered I don't have a girl friend! P.S.S. : Which of course means he is open for applications!! : http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~kpc98c/girlfriend/ is the site for you ====================================================================== but if you're feeling sinister, go off and see a minister he'll try in vein to take away the pain of being a hopeless unbeliever - Belle & Sebastian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Tue Apr 18 03:52:39 2000 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: i will show you fear in a handful of dust Message-ID: <20000418025239.977.qmail@web113.yahoomail.com> yo yo sinistah kids, one and all. i'm supremely fecking jealous of y'all that went to ATP, especially the ones who witnessed a shirtless struan Doing His Thang (cuz lord knows it doesn't sound like any of y'all watched the bands, just played soccer all day, sheesh). i hear that erica nursed the ginger-haired one's wound... well, she saw it up close and personal anyway, even with her sunglasses up on her head and not doing her a bit of good. damn this isn't making sense. if anyone makes fun of winter wooskie they're gonna have ME to deal with, okay?? i'll open up a can of whoop-ass on ya, so don't even try it. miss julie, glamourous cybergal that she is, posted her first post. of course she threw that stupid parrot at will, who proceeded to toss it at me, and since it IS monday, i will let it speak its turn: ___________________________________________ S U N S E T, by Louise Gluck (which should have two little dots over the u) My great happiness is the sound your voice makes calling to me even in despair; my sorrow that I cannot answer you in speech you accept as mine. You have no faith in your own language. So you invest authority in signs you cannot read with any accuracy. And yet your voice reaches me always. And I answer constantly, my anger passing as winter passes. My tenderness should be apparent to you in the breeze of the summer evening and in the words that become your own response. _______________________________________ right, and it seems that somehow the stupid bird got delayed, in a weird time zone screw-up or something, and so he's like, floating around in more than one place, but i insist that this is the Real Poetry Parrot, and i heretoforth toss him at.... erm, lesley jo, because i can never get enough of her dyke skeelz. awww, yeeeah. well. i remain one of the ign'ant masses who hasn't heard "legal man" yet. right now i'm contenting myself with leonard cohen, who is the supreme master songwriter. er, after stuart m., natch. by the way, mad props Have to go out to sam a.k.a. Brand New Shoes (or popstart for you brave #sinisterites) because he hosted me and my grrrl KIMberly when we ventured down to pittsburgh last week to see the ever-lovely cat power, and he was a Damn fine gentleman. he's not really new, but be nice to him anyway. also massive props to LauraLlew for knowing who the flashgirls are and for her well-deserved affection for dorothy parker. milkmaids unite! *ahem* why are you all Looking at me funny??? stop it! sheesh. xo, ree ===== *********************************************************** "to me she was just marie." -mersault "hearts don't break/ the division is innate" -secret stars | eliam at alleg.edu | littlearsonist at yahoo.com | *********************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Tue Apr 18 04:37:08 2000 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:37:08 EDT Subject: Sinister: Teargas, Steve Kado, tampon, protest, FakingUpARampage Message-ID: <5b.4a3e0ac.262d3264@aol.com> In a message dated 4/17/00 3:57:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, keleidoscopic at yahoo.com writes: << My blinded by revolution roommate is in Washington DC, it is a pretty good bet that he has either been arrested or sprayed with pepper spray. I have no clue how this has anything to do with Belle and Sebastian, other than the fact he has a few mix tapes with B&S songs on them. >> I was in DC too. My sister saw me on TV marching in the background. Things were actually pretty calm, although there were a few outbreaks of violence. Every single one I heard about involved the police hitting the protesters. It's true. we have pictures. I think there is one of me holding a "Death to Capitalism" sign. Steve Kado quoth like a raven <> I had a mammoth beard I recently trimmed back. Now I'm checking my closet to see if my pants are secretly screaming "Beard!" I actually think they do. I don't wear jeans, bad or otherwise. I do wear a lot of corduroy, or surplus and patches Jes Sez <> ow. that just seems really uncomfortable. I must say that since i've been blond I have not done that. To myself or anyone else. Let's hope she put it in eraser-end first... I wanted to take a belle and sebastian tape to DC, but the car we were in only had a radio, no tape player. So we got to listen to talk radio or pop rock. I chose oldies when i drove... we also listened to Rush Limbaugh, who made the brilliant civil rights comment that police should just run over protesters who got in their way.. Never mind that the protesters were LEGALLY there WITH A PERMIT. Fucking asshole. I had to change the station or i would have lost my voice cursing at the radio. sigh. all we're saying is no masters, no slaves. love to you all dave, the moon man. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From secretmysterydate at xxx.com Tue Apr 18 05:45:59 2000 From: secretmysterydate at xxx.com (brand new shoes) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:45:59 EDT Subject: Sinister: a deep breath and then... Message-ID: <20000418044559.14475.qmail@hotmail.com> ...sploosh mmm okay so it has been a while since i have dropped in to send out a real non-selfishly-asking-about-the-american-tour style post, but after being thanked by the lovely little arsonist, miss marie, I felt the urge to stop and give a bit back... First point of business... the cat power show mentioned by miss marie, ehem.. totally rawked. mmm she was amazing, i could die in her voice. that is all. Next, the fabulous mr. sugar-dave lent me a copy of the Abanian Steel Beds cd, lovely live stuff, really, plus the BBC... mmm... delicious. Thanks a ton to dave, such a genuine sweet heart. I hope he enjoyed the Rites of Spring party on Satuday...I believe he may have left before the hedonism ran in full effect... anywayyyyyyyyyy ummm... I'm in the midst of preparing for my senior reviews here, presenting and defending my work to a little commitee, very fun stuff, don't cha know... nothin' like spending an hour talking about me :) so i thought i might introduce a quick segment to my post, a seasonal thing as it has been very pretty the last few days: the sinister weather report: I've seen too many people too sad on sinister lately! cheer up! we are all lovely people and really want to be there for everyone's being upset, and i really mean it, we do! (i am of course, making a sweeping generalization) so this is not a criticism of being unhappy, but a supportive message, the sinister weather is lovely, sunny, 76 F (what's that, about 30 C ?) with a mild floral breeze, and you should cheer up, skip tract 5 on IYFS and jump right to the dirty dreams. pop in Go Sailor and take a drive and forget all that mopiness. 'kay? Perhaps i am saying this b/c i am a bit tipsy, but really, if anything, we can provide some perspective on this sinister list and things aren't so awful. (this coming from a boy who i believe has written very whiny messages in the past month) hmm anyway, a very special hello wrapped in millions of kisses to the lovely miss kalliope/velocity girl who i think is just absolutely fab... ...blush... ehem mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmwah! okay, until my next mid-week outting to the half-price guiness pub, i leave you all with my love, sam ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jellybabs at xxx.com Tue Apr 18 08:27:32 2000 From: jellybabs at xxx.com (Katy Dutton) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:27:32 PDT Subject: Sinister: ...and still had some for the cinema... Message-ID: <20000418072732.38854.qmail@hotmail.com> I had a fantastic dream last night, loads of B&S content. I guess it was because I was talking in the day about Struan and his football playing skills :) But in the dream I dreamt that I bought loads of B&S shares on Popex, and because it rocketed me to the top of the shares list - because I made millions of pounds - I was showered accordingly with prizes. And I've just got out of bed to find that my shares have gone down :( Does anyone else thinks it's bluddy GRATE (even grater because of it's cheese associations) to have a boyfriend (or girlfriend) who likes B&S...? I'm just extremely happy at the moment, as me n 'im (teehee) will be getting together for our own Sinister picnic tomorrow. Downside is, he has to go back to Glasgow on Saturday :( Annnnyway, just euphorically happy for now :) Katy x ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GardeningAtNight at xxx.com Tue Apr 18 11:56:38 2000 From: GardeningAtNight at xxx.com (GardeningAtNight at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 06:56:38 EDT Subject: Sinister: desperation smelling of struan soccer sweat Message-ID: I'm back from Toronto as of Sunday night and conveniently skipped school (well, my mom called in for me) yesterday. My penpal from Coventry sent me a tape of Gorky's and put Legal Man on the end, so of course I rewound side B to listen to it. I just finished.. and maybe it's because of all the bad teen movies we watched on the bus ride home, but all I could say was "duuuuuude." I think I like it but I'm not quite sure. It's got a good tune though, I think. marie said, like a billion others but i like how she said it: << i'm supremely fecking jealous of y'all that went to ATP, especially the ones who witnessed a shirtless struan Doing His Thang >> Yeah, same goes for me. He owes us a jog across America, at least through 48 states. The Sinister bus would follow close behind, screaming girls (and boys) hanging out the windows. He brings out the worst in me, I can really imagine myself screaming "STRUAN!! DO YO THANG BOY!!" I misread that at first as "struan dong his thong" which would be just as good now that I think about it. ken needs a shag: << I just read idleberry said that her boyfriend will be coming over to shag her this weekend, how comes my girlfriend isn't coming over this weekend to shag me???? >> I would guess that there are some people that are always dependable for a shag when you need one, but why can't I find any of them? I've been kind of sniffly lately because everyone I know, even the weird icky people, have at least had a date. It makes me feel like a kid and I guess being so fucking twee doesn't really help since kids around here hate that sort of thing. I think Jen's picture is by the dictionary definition of twee and she's even been out (with a moke, but still out). My one friend who's in the same situation as me doesn't care about boys - if she said anything remotely sexual I'd have a heart attack. If I didn't care it wouldn't be a problem. I should put up an application on the internet too*. A Chris, I forget which, told me of an P!O!P! fan in St. Louis. But that's all he said, so I'm left to only guess how wonderful this person must be. Please drop me a line and tell me more. andrew is sad too: << If anyone out there has any comforting words/advice, feel free to e-mail me. * B+S content: I played 3....6...9 seconds of light, about three times driving around with a lump in my throat. >> Come here! Let me love you! Samantha * regarding that, girls as well as boys are welcome. i can see them queuing now.. in my dreams. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elenita99 at xxx.com Tue Apr 18 13:52:29 2000 From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita99) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:52:29 CEST Subject: Sinister: Are you really going to wear that t-shirt??? Message-ID: <20000418115229.19739.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello to all and every single one of you! This morning I went out and it was sunny (for once), and I thought �I�m lucky, I can open the door and I can walk down the street� (*B&S content*) but unlucky I was going to work so� Italian: I�d say Paolo Conte, better than Sabrina anyway, isn�t it? Is he a real Italian? Cos after all this American-Italian stuff I�m not so sure� ATP: I�m sooooooo jealous!!! But I read all your post with interest�would we have the chance to see any photos in the gallery??? (OK you caught me I�m also thinking about that football-chest-Stuart photo�) Legal Man: I missed it�but would be deadly-and-totally devoted to the person who could tape it for me (to see if it really sounds like Eurotrash Theme, now I�m so curious!)�so if you feel like doing it just for doing a good action today or to be nice to me, please don�t hesistate, I�ll be very glad! That was short but well, I don�t feel like telling you all the ugly things my boss does to me, so here I stop This week-end is Easter WE�Hope you all have a lot of chocolate eggs!!! Love Elena PS: title refers to my flatmate seeing the lovely t-shirt i dyed last week myself-with-my-little-hands ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jellybabs at xxx.com Tue Apr 18 13:47:07 2000 From: jellybabs at xxx.com (Katy Dutton) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 05:47:07 PDT Subject: Sinister: When Animals Attack Message-ID: <20000418124707.12379.qmail@hotmail.com> Second post in a day, I know, but hey...I'm bored. I'm stuck at home 'revising' for my imminent A-Levels. Which, in reality, means I am holed up in front of my computer looking at B&S sites in the vain hope of finding more pictures of the lovely Struan. Walkn10 at aol.com wrote: "Doeas anyone laugh like an ass during those "When Animals Attack" specials? I guess its supposed to be really serious and dramatic and stuff, but when they have they supposedly "tame" animals just going apeshit and mauling some unassuming passerby, I can't help it...sue me." I know that this is an American phenomenon (oh the pleasures of Sky TV), but Lee and Herring did a great parody of it on their TMWRNJ (*oooh sounds like a B&S album!*) show. It started out 'When Insects Attack!' and then moved on to such things as 'When Tins, Cans and Bottles Fall Off Shelves'. The attack of the killer beetroot had me laughing every time. Is this just me that remembers this comedic high point of last year? (I apologise if someone's already writtent his, I haven't finished reading my mails yet :) Idleberry, I think your laws are exceptionally good. Especially the alarm clock toilet thing. Although it may make for a bit of noise pollution at the Sinister public toilets, non? Annnnnnyway. Back to daytime TV and pathetic attempts at revision. I'm going mad here. Raowr. Katy x ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Tue Apr 18 16:14:45 2000 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:14:45 -0400 Subject: Sinister: you're my miss washington dc Message-ID: <002901bfa948$cbd90480$5c02a7d1@yesic.com> how odd.... i should have held back on the post yesterday...because now i have much more and nicer things to say. today i woke up early to find that there was narry a crumb for breakfast so i went to the bakery, throught the driving piddling rain and got there while the bread was still warm and fragrant. also i got some of those montreal style bagels that go hard only minutes after they are bought and was able to eat one before it turned to solid rock....this is rare. in my childhood, growing up in the incredibly jewish neighborhood where these bagles are made each morning before being shipped out as luxury goods to other bakeries, i used to be able to have them fresh all the time. i used to have this one metric tonne bicycle that dated from the 50's and i used to ride it in childhood. and i tried to play sports and was bad at them. then i listened to lots of nirvana. also i saw sinister jillian and sinister leslie today, we listened to DISCO music! fuck this indie pop shit...no four on the floor then NO THANK YOU! humph. and someone mentioned 'when animals attack' which is almost as good as 'when good pets go...BAD!' as if people who own boa constrictors or other such animals as pets don't expect them to eat the occasional baby or grandmother. when i go to my parents house with their luxurious cable tv, i watch only nature type shows and its great. i also saw a fabulous show on lemurs. (it was not called when good lemurs go bad) and yesterday i watched 'passions' at leslie and jill's residence building and i almost shat myself.....what an incredible show....when my exams are done i'll stay home afternoons just to watch it...well well well. television is so neat sometimes. i advise all those of you who are into 'litterature' to check out www.sovlit.com its absolutely incredible. also, somewhere you can find an ok online translation of konstantin vaginov's 'goat song' novel under the title 'the tower' its pretty neat too. although its his first and he's a bit too into himself if you know what i mean. i'm glad puzzling dave was sticking it to the man in dc. i wish i could do things like that but unfortunately advanced capitalism is rather fun sometimes.....sigh.....i will just sit here on my fence and mope. i signed a petition to cancel the third world debt the other day tho'. but then later today i'm going to go buy a copy of my neighbor totoro, and maybe some shoes. as long as i can still get nice shoes and japanese animated childrens movies after capitalism implodes and i don't have to watch granola movies of dirty people dancing in circles in fields worshipping goddesses and things and taking apart all the lovely skyscrapers, and as long as i can still keep my urbane nice job and not have to work in an organic hacky sack making commune and wear inticraft clothes, then i'm really into capitalism imploding. s t e v e n k a d o ! and a reminder to toronto types that the 21st of this month will be some sort of thing. that is a friday. so come to it, even though we aren't sure what it is. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NOGOODNIK at xxx.net Tue Apr 18 17:51:19 2000 From: NOGOODNIK at xxx.net (christa) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:51:19 -0400 Subject: Sinister: just let me kiss your watery hands Message-ID: <008601bfa956$52c9c620$e0329cd1@e44e9> will the rain never cease? i swear its been raining for like 4 days. i like rain, actually. just not this much of it, its starting to bring me down. the flowers are drowning. i'm drowning. where is the sun? i didn't move to Philly, silly. i'm still here in DC, witnessing the love between the protesters and the cops. my boy works at 21st and K streets, mere inches from where all the shit was going down yesterday (and Friday), so he was quite excited to check out the scene. i stayed in and watched it on the news. i trust it was just as thrilling. i found the cops and the protesters to be equally as irritating. oh, is that un-PC of me? let's just say i'm glad its over. :) i have to agree with WalknSteve that those "animal attack" shows are an unending source of entertainment. basically, i'm rooting for the animal in every case. i mean, if you're standing with a camera and a microphone in front of a bear that outweighs you by 400 pounds (and invariably will have on some kind of stupid hat), don't be surprised when it eats your face off!! what do you expect!? or, when a poor elephant has been chained to a truck out in the hot sun all day with little kids grabbing at it with their sticky fingers... and it randomly stomps on some people and gores a couple.... i mean, hey! who is shocked by that? it makes total sense. down with people! yea!! sheesh, i'm really not in such a bad mood today. its the rain, i tell you. my tomato soup and grilled cheese are calling to me. mmm, such a purrrrfect lunch for a rainy day. at this point you may be asking yourself "now, why is christa at home at 1pm on a tuesday afternoon?" and i will have to reply "because i quit my job, you sillies!!" there is a fake Amish person on Jerry Springer right now. i am fully convinced, as of this moment, that absolutely nothing in this world is sacred. down with people! eagerly awaiting Legal Man, and legal aid- christa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pelican303 at xxx.com Tue Apr 18 18:14:17 2000 From: Pelican303 at xxx.com (Pelican303 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:14:17 EDT Subject: Sinister: "Legal Aid - The White-Collar Sports Drink" Message-ID: I'm sorry...with all this talk of Passions and animal attack programs, I just can't keep my mouth shut (being a large fan of both). What more could you ask for out of a soap opera than a magic doll the turns into an annoying midgit, a which with large hair, a bunch of hot teenage girls, and very very very poor Elvis impersonations involving horrid lyrics and casio keyboards? Well, my answer to that too-long-of-a question is absolutly nothing. It's even got that "freakish midget not as cool as Webster" versus the "mean cat they never actual show" thing going on for all you people who enjoy watching people, and more especially those with disfiguring genetic diseases, get mauled by animals. I had a whole lot of links to info about the whole World Bank thing e-mailed to me...I still have to check it out. I'm too busy being mad about the Corporate State I am starting to see, having been reading "The Greening of America" (as anyone who has been in #sinister can attest to, for I've turned into that books official cyperspace promoter...kinda like Don King...only white). Anyone wanting to see all the sides of the issue though, I will pass along the links if you wish. They are mostly from the Washington Post and sent to me by a very good friend who left the World Bank a few years ago. Oh no...content...well the subject line is round about content...doesn't count eh? Oh I know. my friend made some joke about Looper yesterday and I asked if he'd ever really heard looper and he said no so I smacked him around. Tis all for now Rob (the mod :Þ) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keleidoscopic at xxx.com Tue Apr 18 19:04:14 2000 From: keleidoscopic at xxx.com (Chris Paluch) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: When Cars attack Message-ID: <20000418180414.24922.qmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Sinister people I remember about three years ago there was a spoof on some US network called when cars attack...it was done seriously enough to be a reasonable spoof. It had the comedian-TV cop from "law and order", acting all serious, as cars with no drivers mowed down people, buildings, and other cars. Plus I related more to the when cars attack then the when animals attacked anyway(especially after being in an accident where i got "attacked" by a VW). OH, I Am probably the Chris person with P!O!P! friends in St. Louis, but I have pop friends all over. Yes i finally heard legal man thanks to a very nice listee and law student in new york...it sounds like well...something that the elephant 6 collective would do(Ya know, minders, apples, neutral milk hotel, essex green, of montreal). Sorry for any of you listees who have no clue what E6 is, but I think B&S are ripe to be the first english band to be in it, especially after legal man. Kinda like a newer apples in stereo song(who I am going to get to see, which makes up for me missing looper, well in my mind at least). Oh on my punk rock roomate, I was kinda jokig o him being blinded by revolution, in fact i would probably end up in washington dc too, but i have reasons not to be(mainly papers), and he is ok... Sorry about the long post. Chris ===== The sole member of the Lost Letter Society A society dedicated to turtle lovers everywhere. Http://www.mp3.com/LostLetterSociety __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chickfactor at xxx.uk Tue Apr 18 19:55:45 2000 From: chickfactor at xxx.uk (brenda milton-bradley) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:55:45 -0700 Subject: Sinister: heeeeeeeeeey "idle"berry... Message-ID: <200004181855.LAA16458@mail2.bigmailbox.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From julesmarkham at xxx.net Tue Apr 18 15:35:35 2000 From: julesmarkham at xxx.net (julesmarkham) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:35:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: a black fox fable Message-ID: <000301bfa969$77cc4840$b01dac3e@tonygeorge> wow! my first commission! someone asked me to write about a jewellery project of theirs. I hope its okay, cause I'm not sure about this one... PS. In case you don't know, in England we call a 'broiler' a 'grill' The black fox jumped lightly onto the table and watched jubilee with interest. She had a large rock resting on the table, and she was poking it carefully with her fingers. ~What are you doing, Juby? the fox finally asked. Jubilee frowned at the stone and patted it thoughtfully. -I found this in the park. I think it's the wrong shape. she picked up the rock and turned it over in her hands. It was porous and grey, flecked with silver. -But I don't know how to shape it. It's rock. It's solid. She put the stone down and sighed. The fox sniffed it carefully. ~Where did you find it? -Just uphill from the river. Where all the hazel tree's are. The fox touched the rock with her pointed snout. ~It doesn't smell like a Gollem. -A what? ~Gollem. Little mud guy, kind of like a mass-produced Eric Cantona...In mud. with little beady eyes. Wizards get them to do their heavy work. Except the laundry, cause then they just gloop down the sinkhole and... -Fox, what's your point, Jubilee interrupted the fox quickly, sensing a long and meaningless story about a lump of clay called eric or something. ~My point? Uhm, I can't think of anything else it can be then. She rolled the stone around thoughtfully. ~I think that it's not the stone that wants to change. I think there's something inside it that wants to get out. maybe that's why it was near the river, it was going to wash itself out. ~But stones are inanimate, Jubilee said doubtfully. ~Yes, but what's inside them isn't. Jubilee tapped the stone. -It's hollow, how can anything be inside it? ~It's porous, so maybe something got stuck... Jubilee picked up the stone and put it in the sink. She turned the tap on and waited. The water poured over the stone, it's surface darkening with the moisture. -Nothings happening, fox, Jubilee said finally. The fox looked around the kitchen. ~Try the grill. -What? ~The grill, melt it out. Jubilee gave the fox an incredulous glance and put the rock under the grill. she set it on full and waited patiently. After a few minutes, the silvery flecks in the rock started to liquefy, they dripped out of the rock and collected in the grill tray. Jubilee stared in silence as the silver flowed back and forth like mercury, making curved, organic shapes as they moved. When the rock stopped dripping, she turned off the heat, and took the tray out from under the grill. She rolled the stone onto the table, where it began to melt the Formica, and took the pan to the sink. She poured the liquid into the sink bowl, where it writhed and twirled like a serpent. When it was cool enough, she picked it up. It curled around her fingers, splitting at one end to form a two-pronged fork, which probed at her skin. -Fox, what is it? The fox sniffed the metallic shape, which briefly assumed a vulpine face, before shifting into a shape like a sprig of mistletoe. ~A beautiful mutant, the fox said finally. -What do we do with it? The mutant leaped onto Jubilee's woollen jumper, stretching out soft little spikes that hooked into the fabric. It stilled, hanging from there in a shape that, from a certain angle, could be the face of a fox. ~I don't think you should worry about that, the fox replied. Jubilee stroked the silver surface of the mutant, cool and bright. jules +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From julesmarkham at xxx.net Tue Apr 18 14:59:43 2000 From: julesmarkham at xxx.net (julesmarkham) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:59:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the not knowing was easy... Message-ID: <000201bfa969$7674f5a0$b01dac3e@tonygeorge> oh the confusion! the uncertainty! the doubt! i am on the crush list, yikes! it could be anyone! someone i know, talk to every day! yelp! so if i have no idea who it is how do i find out? do i just nominate everyone on the sinister list as a crush until i find a match? that would take forever! and what if, by flippantly listing people I've never even mailed, they start going 'I don't know who it is, I'll have to mail everyone to find out!' then all the people they mail will do they same, and everyone will match everyone, and it would be CHAOS!!!!! sorry... overreacted there. so, as Stuart staples once said, 'the not knowing is easy/ and the suspecting, that's okay'. but now i know, but don't know! oh, the confusion (etc etc) so put me out of my misery, whoever it was! jules, (who is making black fox badges out of fimo clay) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.bartilson at xxx.com Tue Apr 18 20:52:29 2000 From: alexander.bartilson at xxx.com (Alexander Bartilson) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:52:29 +0200 Subject: Sinister: The joy of public service radio Message-ID: <001a01bfa96f$cd9ac700$01727180@alex> Heard on the radio yesterday that a program on channel 3 of the Swedish Public Service radio is doing a Jeepster special next Monday. Two hours of Jeepster. That's great. Maybe I'll hear "legal man" or another new song from B & S. ///Alexander +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From FakingUpARampage at xxx.com Tue Apr 18 21:45:11 2000 From: FakingUpARampage at xxx.com (FakingUpARampage at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:45:11 EDT Subject: Sinister: when animals attack Jerry Springer and Jenny Jones Message-ID: <9e.3602484.262e2357@aol.com> christa said: << there is a fake Amish person on Jerry Springer right now. i am fully convinced, as of this moment, that absolutely nothing in this world is sacred. down with people! >> ok.. i have to share this, cos its insanly funny, and most of you have prolly already seen it anyway... i was originally going to put the whole article in the text... but then i thought that everyone would hate me and i would get thrown back in the nursery for list abuse, or my wrists would be slapped or i would get yelled at or something scary like that, so now im just sharing the link... cos it made me smile, and it goes with christa's comment. Ma ybe This Appearance On Jenny Jones Is Just What My Marriage Needs i have to admit i havent watched a 'when animals attack' show... but i think i have sat down for a 'worlds best car chases' eppy once or something. right now im still captivated as to why so many people like the millionaire show. and why i can walk down the hall at school and still hear people saying 'is that your final answer'... that, and how while pretending to be dead yesterday (i died during second period, in order to help show how many people die from drug/alchohal related accidents... every half hour 15 kids died..), people actually bothered to do 6th Sense scenes. i recently finished 'the fuck up' ... i dont remember who wrote it. but that was a strange lil book. a friend of mine is supposed to lend me 'the perks of being a wallflower'... but she said she would months ago, and hasnt yet. i have a feeling i wont be seeing that any time soon. and some B&S content... i still havent gotten back my copy of Tigermilk, so i have stolen a Bis cd. i still havent heard Legal Man, but at least i dont expect to till i get the EP. i'm going now, xoxoxo Jes +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Tue Apr 18 22:20:00 2000 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:20:00 EDT Subject: Sinister: Please, please, please don't eat me. I'm not that tasty, really. Message-ID: <98.3f29164.262e2b80@aol.com> Hewwo, I don't know why but I feel like I haven't posted in ages. I have recently become obsessed with Buffy the Vampire Slayer. But imagine if you were actually called Buffy, and would people who didn't like you call you Bufter and why does everyone in that have odd names? And isn't Giles twee as anything? Yesterday I got some Jeepster postcards through the door. I didn't even know Jeepster had my address. Any way, they were all scary. I might send then on to Samantha, with the letter that I owe her. Yes I think I will do that. I went for a bicycle ride yesterday too. I won't call it a bike, because not in loosest possible sense could it ever be called a bike. 'Bike' is far too cool for my bicycle. My bicycle is too small for me, falling apart and it is bright pink and dayglow orange with bits of silver. My little basket fell off and everything. It started to rain when I was halfway to the town centre and I couldn't see much so I nearly knocked down four OAP's by accident. One had a nasty tongue but the other had an even nastier handbag. Then I nearly got knocked down by a car and I was cycling on the pavement and everything, so I would guess that the driver wasn't very good at driving. On the way home I ended up passing some BMX riders, who were standing around in the rain boasting about their bikes really loudly and when I went past they all laughed and shouted at me for have a geeky bicycle. And keeping my bicycle upright is a full time job, so I got distracted and fell off. And the mud guard broke. Not that it ever was much use anyway. It just meant that the mud went on me and not the wheels. So I kicked it and that wasn't good because I broke the tyre valve. Then I got home and had some hot cocoa and resolved to get a new bicycle, as much as I love my old one hem hem hem. I don't have to go back to school for two weeks because it's easter or something, so I'm going to have grate muddy adventures every single day. yay. And I'm going to paint hard boiled eggs and roll them down hills. We should do that at the sinister picnic in glasgow, even though it will be a bit late. My friend heard Legal Man and says she might buy it, so if her taste is anything to go buy it's prolly not that grate. But i've not heard it yet. Erica's on the cover of papercuts. I noticed that, but i think she already said. I'm going to skeedaddle now (isn't that a grate word, I mean skeedaddle not now because now is just an ordinary non-grate functional word). Hugs, Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jnikolaeff at xxx.au Wed Apr 19 03:53:43 2000 From: jnikolaeff at xxx.au (Juliya Nikolaeff) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:23:43 +0930 Subject: Sinister: Blatant list abuse, and other stuff...... Message-ID: <01BFA9FA.1A9EB4F0.jnikolaeff@nexus.edu.au> Hey guys. Haven't written for a while but help me if you can.... I'm looking for London residents to give me some tips on where to send my friends for a good night out while they are there (from Thursday to Monday), and places to eat, shop etc.... Or you could just e-mail them yourselves - drop me a line. LEGAL MAN When was this released? As you know (unless you don't) Australia is extremely slow in getting non-mainstream stuff from overseas, especially from the UK, so if I add around 2 months onto it I think I'll be safe to go see if its in or not. Cheers for your help. Juliya aka radiation girl "How could I leave you, only to wound myself upon the sharp edges of the night?" - Amy Lowell +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Wed Apr 19 04:16:09 2000 From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:16:09 -0400 Subject: Sinister: who hud thur lives chenged... Message-ID: <200004190316.XAA03904@s1.optonline.net> what, were there -no- sinistrals at the NYC flaming lips show? (yes, i got in...) i looked everywhere for upside-down badges (mine haven't arrive yet!), but didn't find anyone.. and no one has posted yet... i might as well start off, though. looper was fab! yeah, yeah. stuart d. looks a little old, don't you think? oh, well. karn is a sweetie. i want a kiss, but i can't have one. the headphones were brilliant; you could hear whole instruments that the bass was drowning out (at least from where i was standing). irving plaza was PACKED. i saw one of the looper guys by the bar (the one with the long face who doesn't play guitar and isn't stuart or karn) but didn't have the nerve to talk to him. i just basked in his accent for awhile... my friends hated looper, though. one of them called them "crapper" and kept saying how stupid they were even though he knew i loved them. what a moke, eh? the flaming lips were incredible, though. wow. i really must buy the soft bulliten now... god. i am just in awe of the show. the downside, of course is that i sat at a train station from 2:30 to 5 AM waiting for a ride that never came. yes, until dawn. in the cold. at one point the dunkin donuts opened though, so that was ok. it was terrible. i am off to ireland. if anyone in dublin sees a boy in a looper shirt on thursday or friday, it might be me. (other listees who -were- at the show... e-mail me!) - adam aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nikita1023 at xxx.com Wed Apr 19 05:13:30 2000 From: nikita1023 at xxx.com (Christina DaCosta) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:13:30 PDT Subject: Sinister: can't make a sound Message-ID: <20000419041330.10910.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey everyone I am so happy that I knew I had to write and express my joy. The new Elliott Smith album came out today and it is sooooo wonderful. If you like Belle and Sebastian, I am sure that you would like Elliott as well. Figure 8 is the name of the cd and I urge you all to run out and buy it as soon as possible. I am extra happy because the Virgin Megastore in the city is having him perform at an instore concert. It should be great and I am hoping to get his autograph and stuff. If anyone lives in New York and likes Elliott Smith, buy the record at the Union Square Virgin Megastore to get your pass to the concert. I usually don't like to support the big corporations, but this is an exception for me. On another note (a bad one) I've discovered that my stupid college (NYU) has overbooked the housing for next fall, and as of now I have no idea where I am going to live next year. I am majorly pissed off at the NYU bureaucracy crap in general, but this really makes me mad. How are they going to fit all of their students if they overbook the housing by 600 people apiece. It's ridiculous, but you can't really do anything about it. *B&S content, I listened to ...Arab Strap and Elliott's Figure 8 to make me feel better about this silly housing business. Anyways, thanks for listening. Much love to all. Toodles and Caboodles, Christina ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sebastian at xxx.com Wed Apr 19 07:35:09 2000 From: sebastian at xxx.com (pedro simões) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:35:09 -0700 Subject: Sinister: 7 am. songs that make you cry Message-ID: <200004190635.XAA24419@mail14.bigmailbox.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From pants at xxx.com Wed Apr 19 07:57:30 2000 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:57:30 +0200 Subject: Sinister: B&S cover spoofs In-Reply-To: <20000419041330.10910.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000419085730.03cdc100@shell12.ba.best.com> kinda thought these belle and sebastian cover spoofs were sorta funny. http://www.mindspring.com/~jasminejj/bellespoof/index.htm senor droolcup [ flinging and seeing what sticks ] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bertrand.Caron at xxx.se Wed Apr 19 09:38:54 2000 From: Bertrand.Caron at xxx.se (Bertrand Caron) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:38:54 +0200 Subject: Sinister: B&S on the radio... References: <001a01bfa96f$cd9ac700$01727180@alex> Message-ID: <38FD709E.29182F29@uab.ericsson.se> for those who are interrested, you can listen to "I fought in a war..." first track of the new album of B&S. The broadcasted it on the french radio yesterday in the Lenoir programm and you can listen to yesterdays program on their web site in real audio. The link is http://www.radio-france.fr/chaines/france-inter/lenoir/audio.php and then push: M A R D I 18 and here you are... If you don't want to listen to everything, they broadcasted it after 25minutes about Bertrand +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Wed Apr 19 10:35:45 2000 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:35:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Mincemeat Rightguard Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69010D153E@park_ex> Flippin' 'eck, third post in just over a week. Anyway I'll keep this one relatively short. Pictures of all yr favourite sinisterines (and their daughters) having a lovely time on beach and in chalet can be found at: http://www.geocities.com/carsmilesteve/atpphotos/atpphotos.htm Apols that the pics are quite huuuuge, but i'm not too clever with the old html and i just wanted to get them up. Oh god, "the old html", i'm turning into jamie oliver (annoying cockerney boychef for non-brit readers). *steve shudders Nice to see the plans for WORLD TWEE PICNIC DAY are coming along. Remember, doesn't matter where you are or who you're with, have a picnic ANYWAY! (cheap red wine not mandatory, it just seems to be what i always end up with) TMWRNJ is in fact a little known south american bootleg of struan farting in the bath (aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah) (no, not aaaaaaaah) xoxo CarsmileSteve PS quick apol, it was *shane* from boyzone with the funny eyebrow who crashed last week, not keith, silly me... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DKerr at xxx.uk Wed Apr 19 13:48:29 2000 From: DKerr at xxx.uk (Kerr, David) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 13:48:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Today I Have A Voice Message-ID: <6062D80787FBD3118E4100104B92F49E057FEC@MAILSERVER> Alrighty there fellow listees Today, Wednesday 19 April 2000, I become a man. Fresh from the nursery and straight into the big-bad-wide-world. WOOHOO!!! Seeing as this is my first post I will just introduce myself and not go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on...................... My name is Davie Kerr and I am 19yrs old, (Soon to be 20, within the next month anyway). I live in Greenock, Scotland, UK. I only just realised that this list existed about two weeks ago after finding a link on the B&S.co.uk website. At the moment my top favourite bands are; 1/ Belle and Sebastian 2/ Blur 3/ The Blutones 4/ Primal Scream 5/ Rae & Christian (Please note that the above bands are subject to change, apart from B&S, on a daily basis depending on how I feel.) I only have one question at the moment: Are there any T in the Park fans on the list? I noticed that Looper are playing there this year and I am already looking forward to see them play live. I was also hoping that B&S would play there this year. Has any one heard any rumours about B&S at T in the Park this year? (OK so I lied, make that 2 questions). Anyhoo............... Cheers for reading this extremely interesting mail >YAWN< You never know maybe you will hear from me again in, 'Wow It's Tomorrow and I still Have A Voice.' Cya Davie dkerr at nabs.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From scorn-pie at xxx.uk Wed Apr 19 13:50:03 2000 From: scorn-pie at xxx.uk (Victoria Adam) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 13:50:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Jeepster own my soul Message-ID: <015201bfaa02$f70946a0$02c628c3@t4j2q4> Hello all, Why don't lovely weekends develop into lovely weeks? Although mon/tues is technically not a weekend, I wasn't at home to notice this. I was out (freedom! fresh air! sunshine!) enjoying the company of my list crush vote, seeing Salako and buying lovely Jeepster badges from the man in the mwng t-shirt. Salako was nice and it was a very Woodstocky moment as the entire pub sat on the floor. Anyway as soon as I get home there's a whingy old college letter on how well I'm not doing, and a bank statement (I'm a student damnit leave me alone), found chewing gum stuck to my skirt from sitting on a pub floor and my oobergirl top had fallen off the washing line and was blowing around the garden (sorry Niko) in a ungainly fashion. At this point the need for comfort food set in and chocolate looked all appealing and after i had finished off the nice stuff the cooking chocolate started making eyes at me. -Pause for sudden mood swing- However !! under evilmail was an amazing mix tape from tapetreeadrian which brightened up my morning and that may mean this week could turn actually turn out lovely. Jeez. Must be the hormones. Love s.p. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bmacallister at xxx.org Wed Apr 19 14:48:55 2000 From: bmacallister at xxx.org (MacAllister, Bonnie) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:48:55 -0400 Subject: Sinister: can't make a sound Message-ID: <21B216877F41D11196CC00805F85C9E0790BA3@pmaintranet> I as well picked up the Elliott Smith album yesterday which I think is rather brilliant. There is a really funny little Elliott video on dreamworks.com on the flash site. It's Elliott making X/O and you get to see him skateboarding, adjusting the console w/ a banana, doing the moonwalk. It's quite fun! Any Elliott fans on this list should check it out. Bonnie -----Original Message----- From: Christina DaCosta [mailto:nikita1023 at xxx.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 12:14 AM To: sinister at missprint.org Subject: Sinister: can't make a sound Hey everyone I am so happy that I knew I had to write and express my joy. The new Elliott Smith album came out today and it is sooooo wonderful. If you like Belle and Sebastian, I am sure that you would like Elliott as well. Figure 8 is the name of the cd and I urge you all to run out and buy it as soon as possible. I am extra happy because the Virgin Megastore in the city is having him perform at an instore concert. It should be great and I am hoping to get his autograph and stuff. If anyone lives in New York and likes Elliott Smith, buy the record at the Union Square Virgin Megastore to get your pass to the concert. I usually don't like to support the big corporations, but this is an exception for me. On another note (a bad one) I've discovered that my stupid college (NYU) has overbooked the housing for next fall, and as of now I have no idea where I am going to live next year. I am majorly pissed off at the NYU bureaucracy crap in general, but this really makes me mad. How are they going to fit all of their students if they overbook the housing by 600 people apiece. It's ridiculous, but you can't really do anything about it. *B&S content, I listened to ...Arab Strap and Elliott's Figure 8 to make me feel better about this silly housing business. Anyways, thanks for listening. Much love to all. Toodles and Caboodles, Christina ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nikita1023 at xxx.com Wed Apr 19 16:31:06 2000 From: nikita1023 at xxx.com (Christina DaCosta) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:31:06 PDT Subject: Sinister: RE: can't make a sound Message-ID: <20000419153106.17345.qmail@hotmail.com> Thank you everyone who wrote expressing an interest in elliott and for comforting me on my housing woes. Just wondering if there are any b&s fans in nyc besides some that i've already spoken to. Don't be shy, we could all go to central park and frolic if the dismal weather gets any better. Toodles & Caboodles! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.bartilson at xxx.com Wed Apr 19 17:23:53 2000 From: alexander.bartilson at xxx.com (Alexander Bartilson) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:23:53 +0200 Subject: SV: Sinister: The joy of public service radio References: <200004182047.WAA01395@mailb.telia.com> Message-ID: <001c01bfaa1b$b0b739a0$01727180@alex> Regarding the Jeepster special on Swedish radio. The program is called P3 Pop (where P3 is the name of the channel and pop is....). It's being broadcast between 22.03 and 24.00 on Monday (24/4). I don't know if there is going to be a webcast of this show (Swedish radio isn't that webified yet (another great nonexisting word)) but the url to the website is www.sr.se/p3 and then click programs and then P3 pop. (any problems just e-mail me) ///Alexander +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From soulobscene at xxx.com Wed Apr 19 19:38:59 2000 From: soulobscene at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:38:59 EDT Subject: Sinister: i was a looper in new york Message-ID: <20000419183859.35891.qmail@hotmail.com> hello listees, i meant to write this post yesterday but the overwhelming 'adult' responsibilities that seemed to be flooding my daily life did not allow me to do that. i hate being busy. i actually found a spare moment to realise that i have become something of a lurker on this list, shame shame on me. anyway...i wanted to be the first person to post about the new york city looper gig but alas i was beaten to the task. thanks adam apparatus for ruining my brilliant scheme. :) so what do i really have to say about the gig? well...the looper bit was pretty okay, but not like, amazing. you know. i really enjoyed their gig at tramps here in nyc last summer, and i think i felt that way largely because of the innovative visual set-up, which just wasn't present at this show. there was just this like, big screen thing. the performance itself was pretty okay. stuart david is not nearly as shy as he seemed to be a summer ago...he was quite the chatterbox actually. but the thing is, the songs are just so gosh darn TWEE i just wasn't feeling it. you know? sometimes i wonder if we all love looper because we all love belle and sebastian. (oops, have i said too much? send those flames my way!) the band did do 'impossible things,' possibly the twee-est of the twee set, and i slipped into mad twee mode for those twee minutes and really enjoyed it. the flaming lips on the other hand...wow wow wow! one of those brilliant live bands. they too used the 'like, big screen thing' but the film was synchonized perfectly with their performance and really made a startlingly beautiful effect. amazing amazing. the highlight of the show, definitely, was the classic 'she don't use jelly' when the whole place went mad in a sea of rainbow balloons. again, wow wow wow. i am writing a review of this show for the really GRATE indie rock website i sometimes write for, that being superstar in stereo (http://www.superstarinstereo.com...you got it!)...you should most definitely look at this site. lots of happy stuff going on there. oh...the loveliest thing about the looper/lips show...ELLIOTT SMITH was lurking in the audience! he is so tiny! i think i love him! or something. speaking of the divine mr. elliott...i've had 'figure 8' for a few weeks now (god bless cool roommates with promo copy privileges) and it is a beauty. all of the songs were written in my voice about my feelings towards my ex-boyfriend, i think...elliott stop reading my diary! i am quite *sniffle* sad because i am unable to attend the in-store at the virgin megastore here in nyc on friday. i am hosting a bridal shower in new jersey on saturday (don't ask) and i cannot make time for dear, sweet elliott. i hope he understands. :) anyone going to see any of the three dates he's playing in nyc in may? oops, sorry for all of the non-b+s there. let me ask a question then...why doesn't AT LEAST one napster user have an mp3 of 'legal man'? i am very surprised and very disappointed people, hop to it. so...despite the miserable weather and the fact that everything reminds me of my gay ex-boyfriend who refuses to speak to me now, things are looking superfine. i found out today that the museum of television and radio is running a marathon of the unaired 'freaks and geeks' episodes next saturday! does it get any better than that? i don't think so. stasia xx * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * i'm crystal crossed i still feel lost but i refuse to be your victim... SEBADOH * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dontlookatmyaddressnaughty at xxx.com Thu Apr 20 02:51:11 2000 From: dontlookatmyaddressnaughty at xxx.com (Elvis ...) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 02:51:11 ICT Subject: Sinister: fascinating Message-ID: <20000419195111.37472.qmail@hotmail.com> between 1970 and 1995 30% of the worlds natural resources were lost apparentely. and, half of the worlds forests were destroyed in the last 100 years. have you ever noticed completely unreleted but how old a 1 pence piece from 1990 looks? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From strappingarab at xxx.com Wed Apr 19 21:06:10 2000 From: strappingarab at xxx.com (robert smith) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 13:06:10 PDT Subject: Sinister: williams days Message-ID: <20000419200610.15759.qmail@hotmail.com> William breathed in as he fastened the laces on his boots. His boots were big and brown and he wore them rarely. The reason he was now putting them on was that he was going to the park and he felt a fraud wearing his usual shoes in the park. William had been round this park more than once, but today is seemed a bit different. It was nearly a quater past seven on a spring evening and things weren't yet dark. I had been raining for days on end and large parts of the park were flooded, as usual. It wasn't raining now, although the air was moist, it was not unpleasent. The grey sky was reflecting in the newly formed lakes and seemed to reflect an old world that Willaim did not know but he felt he belonged there all the same. Belonged. The rain had made the unflooded fields vibrant and William wondered how many shades of green there were in that small field. He'd counted up to seven when something caught his eye. 'Sophie 4 Gary' written in tippex on a tree. This sort of thing sometimes makes William angry. Today it just made him strangely sad. So very sad. *this piece of self indulgence was brought to you by the undead robert smith* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tmh at xxx.edu Wed Apr 19 22:16:18 2000 From: tmh at xxx.edu (Todd Herrmann) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:16:18 -0400 Subject: Sinister: B & S wussy rock? I think not! References: <001a01bfa96f$cd9ac700$01727180@alex> <38FD709E.29182F29@uab.ericsson.se> Message-ID: <000b01bfaa44$83e0a960$06d00281@student.umd.edu> The following article appeared in newspaper here at my school (Univeristy of Maryland) a while back. While the author overall liked Belle and Sebastian, it seemed he was afraid to admit it at first. Almost as if he was afraid someone was going to make fun of him if did admit to omigosh, actually liking what he terms "wussy rock". At least he comes off strongly in the end. I think B & S is termed "wussy rock" by those who haven't really listened to it and who won't take the time to give them a good listen because they already have a preformed judgement in their mind that they don't want to risk being wrong. Anyway articles mentions our very own Sinister list!, so I thought it was noteworthy Todd ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Either you like Belle & Sebastian or you don't. It's that simple. Some people adore them, which makes sense since they are adorable. Some people despise them. "They just add to the wussification of rock and roll" a friend of mine once told me. And I can't really argue with him. Sure, Belle & Sebastian is wuss music. But it's damn fine wuss music. And, being a wuss, that's fine with me. For those of you not familiar with B & S, I'll try to give a quick primer: They are a eight-piece Scottish band who take their name from a French children's TV show. Wuss factor number one. Their music is most often compared to Nick Drake and the Smiths, with their lyrics even more sexually ambiguous than Morrissey's, if that's possible. Wuss factor number two. Lead singer/songwriter Stuart Murdoch has a slight lisp, which is quite endearing, but doesn't prevent it from being wuss factor number three. Fans on the band's e-mail listserv have been known to post messages talking about how their days are going. Wuss factor number four. Mixed in with all of this wussiness (I promise that's the last time I will use that word) are lots and lots of perfect pop songs. Acoustic guitars, some horns thrown in here and there and Murdoch's clever-but-not-obnoxious lyrics are the recipe for many memorable tunes from the band's three full-length releases. In 1997, soon after the release of their breakthrough If You're Feeling Sinister, the band put out a trio of 4-song EPs that were released only in Europe, available in our fine country only as imports. That is, until now, as the fine folks at Matador Records have interrupted their process of slowly becoming a below-average electronic music label to gather these three EPs into one handy boxed set - Lazy Line Painter Jane - for your listening pleasure. And a pleasing listen it is. Dog On Wheels came first, so we can start there. The title-track is a little heavier on the horns than most B & S songs, giving it a slight flamenco feel. Fans may recognize "The State I Am In" from the band's debut, Tigermilk, and it shows up here in a more guitar-based version. It remains one of the band's finest moments, and this version is altered enough to merit its inclusion. "Belle & Sebastian" is the band's theme song, I suppose, and it's a good match for the band since it is about as twee as it gets, featuring an extended intense flute solo. Lazy Line Painter Jane is the name of the second EP, a song from the EP and - for some reason - it is also the name of the box set as a whole. The song features vocals from Monica Queen, whose powerful voice far outdoes Murdoch in terms of masculinity, saying far more about Murdoch than Queen. It also has one of those famous B & S lines, with Queen singing "You'll have a boy tonight, or maybe you will have a girl tonight." Nobody knows for sure. "You Made Me Forget My Dreams" is a piano-based ballad that detractors of the band will love to pounce on. It's ultra-sensitive, even for B & S. "Photo Jenny" picks it back up, with lots of organ, some nice harmonies from Isobel Campbell (in the role she should stick with) and reverb-drenched guitar. 3..6..9 Seconds of Light completes the trilogy and features perhaps the band's most rocking moment to date. At least they gave it a cutesy French title, "La Pastie de la Bourgeoisie," just to maintain their tenderness. The song's lyrics are a perfect example of Murdoch's compositions. Murdoch's songs are usually about a young, well-read, social misfit who Murdoch paints a loving portrait of. "Wouldn't you like to get away?/Give yourself up to the allure of Catcher in the Rye?" he asks. Those hungering for the more typical B & S sound will not be disappointed with "Beautiful" which, as corny as it is to say, is perfectly titled. These EPs are not filler. It shows the band at the top of their game, as this collection of 12 songs easily exceeds the 12 that appeared on the band's last album, The Boy With the Arab Strap. Granted this was because Murdoch decided to be democratic and let the other band members contribute four songs. Lazy Line Painter Jane works perfectly as a place to fill out one's collection or as a place to start it. Gimme wussy rock. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gas.man at xxx.com Wed Apr 19 23:19:46 2000 From: gas.man at xxx.com (Sean) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:19:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ooh aah sinistah - the rematch References: <200004192212.XAA20285@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <004b01bfaa4d$5f1245e0$3512073e@i8yi5> hello all, www.nme.com are advertising s/thing called the soccer sixes...another celebrity footie event that i feel we should definitely gate-crash obviously our previous approach, of sending Jim up to the organisers several times, pretending to be a different band until we get let in to the tournament is probably not going to work. therefore, i have taken the liberty of mailing the news desk at the nme. first and foremost this lets them know that it was the sinister massive who are responsible for kicking them all over the park at camber. IMHO they *needed* to know. as for the future...if captain jim says so, book the (i think) 29th May, P!O!P! kids, and we'll show them all...... below, that challenge to the nme in full.... dear nme, so, the soccer sixes. are you putting a team out? if so, thought you might be interested in a rematch after your pounding at the ATP festival. it's probably time to let you know who beat you in that epic final. well, for that afternoon, Matthew, we were the slot jockeys. However, the team that kicked you around the camber sands stadium were.....the sinister list. Does this ring any bells? i'm afraid to tell you that it was a bunch of biscuit nibbling, cardie-wearing, Belle and Sebastian loving, twee fuckers that dished out the pasting you so richly deserved. come and have a go..... sean +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From candelaria66 at xxx.com Wed Apr 19 23:48:41 2000 From: candelaria66 at xxx.com (Luther van der Gaard) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: UofM journalism school Message-ID: <24065953.956184521832.JavaMail.imail@swirly> to comment on the article that Todd just posted from the University of Maryland, i should say that this is quite typical of what passes for "music journalism" in most school newspapers. i mean, its great that B&S get any type of mention whatsoever, and i should be grateful, but i just dont think that article shows a shred of imagination. spare me your "wuss factor" crap. lyrics even more ambiguous than morrissey's! wooo! i dont know when this article appeared in your newspaper, but i should mention that parts of it bear a striking resemblance to a review of the "lazy line painter jane" box set that appeared in the British music magazine Select recently. the bit about "beautiful" being perfectly titled, and a few other bits seem directly paraphrased from that review. plagiarism is always a pathetic sight, but again to be expected from these budding Spin writers who figure none of the heathens in their readership are cool enough to pick up Select. and of course, the bits that werent plagiarized showed "analysis" so lamely shallow that its simply not worth reading. "gimme wuss rock"? oy. ah. sorry to be so grouchy. -rye. "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man." -Jebediah Springfield _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jcmoya at xxx.net Thu Apr 20 02:59:47 2000 From: jcmoya at xxx.net (Juan Carlos Moya) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 21:59:47 -0400 Subject: Sinister: an invitation to the ball...(list abuse) Message-ID: <38FE6493.41498B35@bellsouth.net> Dear friends whose lives i've been following on and off for the last 6 months, on friday, april the 21st at the green room in toronto, between bloor and brunswick, the sweet libation will flow. beware of he who hath converted american dollars to canediennes. he will be strong in the force and so will his companions be. (he will be drinking mightily as well). will the sini-bears make an appearance? will the south floridiennes be warm(ly received)? who will bear the mark? will it take more than milk to get rid of the taste? whose to know the thoughts of mary jane? there is no other way. Steven knows this. Please join us. Miami. April 19, 2000. J.C. Moya +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rxchamp at xxx.com Thu Apr 20 06:54:07 2000 From: rxchamp at xxx.com (Matt Evanosky) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 01:54:07 -0400 Subject: Sinister: looperific in connecticut Message-ID: <00c401bfaa8c$da365380$79db163f@oemcomputer> ok, try to hold back the yawns for one minute....i just wanted to post and assure everyone who didn't venture into the mean streets of hartford, conn. tonite....its ok.....the looper was her and you all missed them..... they were looperageous and looptacular and even dare i say, looptastic....i might be over-selling the point a wee bit...but anyway....they were really good and stuart was very chatty tonite as well....he really is an excellent storyteller.....oh well....they were really swell....if ever the chance presents itself, you all should try to attend. the flaming lisp did their thing too.....they're pretty funny.....i think i am going to buy a gong for my living room.....it would really tie the room together.... ok, thanks...... consider this my soft bulletin, mattnice +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Thu Apr 20 13:47:38 2000 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 13:47:38 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Cicoline for Italia Message-ID: Fraid to say that for the first time since I joined Sinister I have had to delete a bunch of messages unread as I just don't have the time. it is for this reason that I am now responding to old points. Somebody asked about Italians who have made an impression on the music scene. I bring forward Miss Cicoline. OK so the former porn star has never released a single but Pop Will Eat Itself did release the brilliant tune "touched by the hand of Cicoline" which was a call to have the busty blond present the trophy at world cup Italia 90. Also she deserves a mention for her forray into politics after her porn career. Lots of male fans voted for her and she became a member of parliament in Italy, later she tried to avert the gulf war by offering to sleep with Saddam if he would call his troops out of Kuwait. For such devotion to the duties of world peace and sex I think we should all sing along to PWEI for her, altogther now.. "Cicoline, Cicoline for Italia, Italia" Time for a big thankyou to Velocity Girl who was not only very nice about me in her post but who also posted a poem from one of my most favourite ever poets, Olivia Weatherspoon, not only does she write great poems but I also hear that she was damn sexy. Also Ive just remembered that Juicy Lucy Alder mentioned her nipples, with vaseline, can't wait to see the photo Also I've noticed that some wise soul has been quoting the great Jbediah Springfield in his posts, Well did you know that Jebediah has one more famous quote which he let slip once when he'd had a few too many drinks. " A good porno film embiggens even the smallest man" THE APRIL UPDATE words to write before the 28th 30,000 words written to date 20,000 words left 10,000 days left 7 words per day required about 1,400 Well it's time to get back to the dissertation bye folks love owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Thu Apr 20 17:19:07 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (The Fragrant World Of Princess Honey) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 17:19:07 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: B&S Question Time Message-ID: At the speed of a bullet - this from B&S Central: ******* Belle & Sebastian are to host a Question & Answer evening for media and fans on 3rd May 2000 in London All members of the band will be in attendence. The evening will be split into two parts - Questions and Answers, followed by a party with Richard and Chris DJing. For the chance to win a ticket for the event, listen in to Radio One's Evening Session on Thursday 27th April from 8-10pm ******* Honey x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grey7 at xxx.net Thu Apr 20 19:37:46 2000 From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:37:46 -0400 Subject: Sinister: No longer waiting to happen.... Message-ID: <002601bfaaf7$86ddf380$1e381fce@default> Hullo Sinister Siblings!!! The weather is rather dreary but a ray of sunshine has appeared! I caught "I fought in a War" thanks to Bertrand posting the link to the French radio program. Standard B&S openning, slow with just Stu's voice and then the rest of the band joins in. The song itself is nice but nothing new and it'd be hard to judge the rest of the album from it. I really wish I had been able to hear "Legal Man" as I'm interested on how that sounds. But the song is solid and you'll all love it since it's right out of the B&S mold, I simply can't wait for the new album. I've notice the tendency of reviewers to be rather self-depreciating in their reviews of B&S, especially at the college and non-professional levels. They feel the need to apologize for listening to *wuss* rock and dissing it while they at the same time praise the genius and beauty of it. A rather strange mixture, indeed. On a personal note I am flying high because I've just been accepted to Clarion 2000 which is one of the most prestigious writing workshops around. Only about 17-20 students nation wide are tapped for it and somehow I made the cut. I am near shock so I hope you'll all excuse me for going on about it. I feel like dancing right now and I believe I shall go listen to LLPJ a few dozen times. Oh, and cheers to all those who responded to my last post way back when. You know who you are and you're all brilliant! Especially Emily for turning me onto Nina Simone and Jeanette for the AP article. Cheers to the Jeff Noon fans as well! "Goodbye Rag! Goodbye Tag! Goodbye Bobtail!" Jim "We're all out there somewhere, waiting to happen"- Jeff Noon, Vurt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Thu Apr 20 22:30:01 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: spring hypernation Message-ID: <20000420213001.14938.qmail@web611.mail.yahoo.com> Oh dear, look who is a sleepy girl today. Got to the stage where "me and the major" suddenly turned into a song about "me and my duvet could become close friends cos we, like to lie in the same bed and I want to go to sleep.." and so on and so forth. And everyone thought I'd been shagging last night when I got in this morning (no, my hair always looks like this!) which was just wishful thinking really, cos my darling boyfriend disappeared down saaaf again on Sunday. So I'm shag free at the moment. I think the last time I felt this upset was when Lucy died in ER and it was screened on Sky.... IT WAS MOVING! *tsk* you people have no soul. believe in the power. I've been involved in some odd thoughts, all while I've been awake, although they feel more like bedtime thoughts just as you hit the cusp of being tired and falling asleep. nothing exciting so far. So far, my poll booth stands at: 15.9% against B+S stickers. 22.7% for beanie babies (although, I have been told that I can forget that ridiculous idea, its not going to happen.... ah well. no cuddles from Stupot M then.) and a lovely 61.3% want stickers! yay! So maybe we could have B+S lunch boxes too? and maybe a stupot pillow cover? and flasks? and what about those pens, were if you tip them upside down the clothes fall off the little figure inside? I can see the isobel campbell one being a hotcake. Alternatively, fox in the snowstorm balls? I would settle for a gig by the almighty B+S though. OH NO! DEAD BABY ON ER!!! what else was I going to say? hmm. I had some mighty cool gossip for you too.... oh well. MAKE THE BABY BREATH! I KNOW YOU CAN SAVE HER! YOU'RE A GOOD DOCTOR! PLEASE! Sorry... BTW, heard a rumour Jeepster chat is closing? anyone got any light to shed on this tale? true or false? are you sure? you could loose �500,000 here.... positive? anyway, bed time now, later people! BY THE WAY: ican't believe some of you people actually read my rantings! gold medals all round! chocolate ones, of course. love Idleberry kiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskis ===== http://www.geocities.com/idleberry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dee at xxx.ie Thu Apr 20 22:31:33 2000 From: dee at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 22:31:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: No, I don't think its my round. Message-ID: hello list, llets begin shall we ? Judy, some tea please. Hello list. i am feeling irate today. Someone told me that Stuart Murdoch writes to this list under an assumed name just to hear what people are saying about them. I think this is balderdash. Why on earth would belle and sebastian even care what us saddos are talking about ? Does anyone really believee that stuart comes dashing into practice late, risking a stern look from isabelle awith the excellent excuse of "Sorry guys, I was checking my mail, fucking sinister - I had 498569734956739458734 and I just had to read them all cos they are all so good, one person talked non stop about why they wear odd socks, another agreed. Someone said something banal and ity really caught on and they all think its a cool idea and can't stop posting in. Its almost like whatenglish essays in the leaving cert are like except without the remarks in red pen at the side saying things like "too much narrative." I'm irate because it was obviously some list subscriber who made it up trying to build up the lists credentials in the eyes of the uncaring general public. Going with the thread that it is a lie also points to further cringes on belle and sebastians part. If I gang of people who thought I was great (sic) and had loads of parties in my honour, spread a rumour that I actually went to their parties , I think I'd stamp my foot . Come on, Start trek people hate the fans, Ithink the same applies here. But anyway, It isn't list abuse to complain of a bad day because it seems to be the rules. And its the rules, who am I to break them > I'm irate cbecause I bought a round for five people , one of whom had already bought a round and etiquette nipped ouot the back for a bit because one boy went home, and the others all instatnly acquired a disease whereby their hands were magically unable to reach into their pockets. I wouldn't mind, being only petty in extraordinarily minute cases, but I dropped subtle and obvious hints and commented on it in an annoyed way to the very offenders who feigned deafness and such things. One of the ugly boys was scottish , does this has anythihng to do with the apparent truism that the scottish are a shower of miserable bastards when it comes to money ? I love scottish poele by the way but I do know that that is a well known premise. I hate scabby bastards though. For the more alert of you, the scabby boy was one who I referred to as a n axe murderer in an earlier mail. So the extra sad of you can check the archives to fully understand the structures and motives which govern my every day. And maybe even sturat will reply. ________________________________________ Disclaimer : the information which is obtained through a quiet perusal of these emails should be absorbed by osmosis. Allow one to two years for the genius of each and every intentional spelling mistake and grammtical error to sink in for maximum effect. Recognising that Denise sometimes embellishes stories and leans towards outright lies is important for your own acumen of the holistic elements of the emails. Should your knee get itchy whilst you read emails from Denise, she is completely unresponsible unless of course, she happens to be tickling your knee. Then it is right and proper to stick something smaller than your elbow into her ear with the sole purpose to hurt her. That'll teach her. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.bartilson at xxx.com Thu Apr 20 23:14:20 2000 From: alexander.bartilson at xxx.com (Alexander Bartilson) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:14:20 +0200 Subject: SV: Sinister: B & S wussy rock? I think not! References: <001a01bfa96f$cd9ac700$01727180@alex> <38FD709E.29182F29@uab.ericsson.se> <000b01bfaa44$83e0a960$06d00281@student.umd.edu> Message-ID: <004b01bfab15$dac0e200$01727180@alex> Hi, This has probably been discussed before but since I've not been on the list for very long I hope you will excuse me. I just wanted to say that I don't think that Isobel Campbell is at all a bad singer (I guess that's what the author of the article implied). "Is it wicked not to care" is one of best B & S songs in my opinion (all though there are many :-) ). Also, I don't think that TBWTAS (wow, my first use of a B & S abbreviation) is a bad record. It's great. Well, don't really see the point of this mail, but anyway... ///Alexander PS. Listening to Miles Davis right now. Swing it... /... > "Photo Jenny" picks it back up, with lots of organ, some > nice harmonies from Isobel > Campbell (in the role she should stick with) and > reverb-drenched guitar. ... > > These EPs are not filler. It shows the band at the top of > their game, as this collection of > 12 songs easily exceeds the 12 that appeared on the band's > last album, The Boy With > the Arab Strap. .../ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Fri Apr 21 00:46:59 2000 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:46:59 BST Subject: Sinister: Grr to dates and timing Message-ID: <20000420234659.15586.qmail@hotmail.com> So B&S decide to do something the day before my 15,000 word dissertation is to be handed in.... grrrrrrr or rather, damn Suffering from the effects of too much beer at the moment. I heard i fought In a War 5 mins ago and I can't remember what it was like but I think it was very good. Legal man is certainly bluddy grate anyway. even if it does sound like Eurotrash apparnatly (Louis- you are well wrong on that point, oh and tidy up the living room before I get back) This mail appears to be as good as the new london telephone numbers, ie absolutly gash, so I will end it now. Though before I depart, a little reccomendation: Buy Boxing Hefner it's really really good. To all those with exams and too much coursework I salute you but then say "why didn't you do the bloody essays when you were given them. It would have saved a hell of a lot of stress......." Love and hugs paul ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From secretmysterydate at xxx.com Fri Apr 21 02:42:02 2000 From: secretmysterydate at xxx.com (brand new shoes) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 21:42:02 EDT Subject: Sinister: another visit!! Message-ID: <20000421014202.60074.qmail@hotmail.com> well well well, upon opening the front to my little apartment building yesterday to pick up the paper and check the weather, i saw what i first thought might be the poetry parrot! however, i was mistaken, for there, dressed vaguely like a parrot was his hard talking, bitch slapping, glock toting, sag sporting counterpart, the Dope Flow Dawg... soo... not being, really, the ruffest mutha-fucka on the east side, regardless of my Brooklyn days, the DFD hit me with a left, knocked my ass to the floor and, gat aimed squarely at my l'il noggin, forced me to spread phat lyrical flow to the twee-est crew crossing all the ponds. i tried to sneak away whilst he poured a forty on the ground for his lost homeboys, but alas, i was once again, bitch slapped and put back to writing. he is actually here now, so i must hurry... to stay safe, i am using a pre-fab lyrical set by an old favorite, a standard if you will, and though this was not as tough as the DFD had hoped (he was looking for more of a Non Phixon/Arsonists/DVAlias Christ style hardness i think) it fit the bill. so here it is, by the lovely, Pharcyde -1.5 verses of Passin' Me By When I dream of fairytales I think of me and Shelly See she's my type of hype and I can't stand when brothers tell me That I should quit chasin' and look for something better But the smile that she shows makes me a go-getter I haven't gone as far as asking if I could get with her I just play it by ear and hope she gets the picture I'm shootin for her heart, got my finger on the trigger She could be my broad, and I could be her (nigga) But, all I can do is stare... Back as kids we used to kiss when we played truth or dare Now she's more sophisticated, highly edu-ma-cated not at all over-rated, I think I need a prayer to get in her boots and it looks rather dry I guess a twinkle in her eye is just a twinkle in her eye Although she's crazy steppin, I'll try to stop her stride Cause I won't have no more of this passin me by And I must voice my opinion of not even pretending she didn't have me Strung like a chicken, chase my tail like a doggie She was kind of like a star, thinking I was like a fan Dude, she looked good, down side: she had a man He was a rooty-toot, a nincompoop She told me soon your little birdie's gonna fly the coop She was a flake like corn, and I was born not to understand By lettin her pass I had proved to be a better man just hope that the Dope Flow Dawg doesn't find out where you live, i think that the parrot is most likely much friendlier. i gave him a forty and pointed him west, thinking he would end up in ohio and just freak out. so hopefully that's the last we will see of him, but who knows, lock your doors folks, he one bad ass mutha fucka! :) okay loves, enough sillieness. this isn't making fun of the parrot, i love the parrot. i was just jealous of people who got a visit from an inspiring animal so i made up my own. :( i'm off now, be good! love, sam ps: b+s content intentionally kept separate from this post, for their own good. :) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trollopinpaisley at xxx.com Fri Apr 21 04:36:15 2000 From: trollopinpaisley at xxx.com (Valerie Solanas) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:36:15 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Getting Gay with Chan. Message-ID: <2199F8AC2E614D1178A30005B83AB941@trollopinpaisley.fcmail.com> yo yo yo party people, line up for sum phat west coast technocracy, kickin it down the neon fantastic, boogie down to your rubber souls, shake the pacifiers we in da HY-OUUSEE Okay so yeah, i have had a bad week and this is the first sinister i've read for a whilte, so bear with me. i had a really surreal fucking dream about cat power. as i'm awaiting seeing the show next week here in tempe. ihave to go see about getting a ticket, but basically, come hell or high water, i have to go. i would describe the dream in more detail, but it was waaaayy too long. alanis morrisette opened for her, and she was terrible. we missed yo la tengo. when chan came out with her entourage of creepy indie people and a pair of backup dancers, she stood on this little riser in teh middle of teh stage, and fretted and muttered directions to the stagehands to move the audience away from her. everyone in the crowd had fuzzy cat ears, or like red and gold hair, and the boys all had orangey iridescent lipstick and eyeliner and everyone had stuffed animals. they kept talking and yelling stuff during her set, and she got pissed and stormed off, she stood behind the curtain almost right next to wher eiw as sitting, crying "i want my teddy bear!!" it was heart wrenching. she finally came back out, and was dressed in white, and a brilliant light shone on her, she was alone on the stage, and her voice was so luminous, she was so caught up in her own world, with her dark hair, and huge dark eyes, i was hypnotized, and kept blathering about how beautiful she was. later in the evening some stage hands hustled out a few people on the pretense of some contest for prizes, but actually they were hooked up with green cables and clamps on their heads, shocked, and arrested for being rude and upsetting chan during her show. everyone was loudly berated for behaving immaturely and making her nervous and talking while she was singing. that's my cat power dream , the extremely truncated version. i have to agree with christa. i am siding with the vicious animals all the way baby. i laugh like hell. stupid people. they go up to a huge wild animal and when it attacks them, they are SHOCKED and OUTRAGED!!! so they they shoot the tiger, or whatever, for their own moronic stupidity of keeping a fierce wildcat caged in their dog pen, and letting their 2 year old play tug=the-ears with it. or whatever. fuck them all!! those kind a morons deserve to be taken out of the gene pool. btw christa i need to write to you!! but i've had such a badddd week. i will write soon. i have stuff for you. miss you. buxomdyke*) i guess i have the poetry parrot then. can we use our own poetry? oh who cares. i can do whatever i want. i'm going to use my own poem. sorry, seamus heaney!! you'll just have to move over. I send teh parrot hurtling in the direction of christa "floozy" c., in an effort to make up for my lack of communication. chirp chirp!! a poem the masculine contemplates the deep I am a thoroughly modern masculine vision, bird-hipped and peg-legged my chest just broad enough, my fingers just the length of a shy cock. Bold-browed, the bridge of my nose sheltering eagle eyes, an Adam's apple hard and true. My shoulders strong with the demands of ten or more fathers, as many generations as pain can curse. I don't remember having any sisters, I donÂ’t know if my hair is long or shaven. I have trouble deciding my place in this world. I know a girl who told me, all I could give her she gives herself. She says I am fair; but not enough. She says, we tried. When she held me like a baby I was scared to ask for more. I know all my pretty words will lie quietly in her eyes, passing through her hands, listened to but lost in the end. I know the way my body remembers her breathing will only grow tragic. Sometimes I dream of lizards creeping in my sheets or great black horses that burst their chains. They snort tornadoes of steam and raise flames from their steely hooves. Some other times, I dream of her voice and I come all over. I feel ashamed of being the bullet, of making and shaping love like clay. It's how we are designed, to find a bullseye, somewhere, to home in on the gash like piranhas, to be the arrow and never the wound. They don't understand this is not what I wish to be, that I want only to set us all free-- but I want, that is crime enough. Some of us are whale's legs begging another chance, bragging for the land; some of us are harpoons. But to see poetry in the ecstasy of our prey is to renounce the hunt-- like my grandfather who, catching a deer's lightning eye, threw down his gun for life. It would be easier to believe I could win the plaque-mounted head, wear its teeth on my stem, cage the young ones to fatten on the blood of their sisters, and laugh. But I must concentrate on the desire that binds me, alone, exclusive of slender limbs and lips on roses; the reason that will keep me sane, the machinations of states and philosophers' prescriptions for clarity. This is the difference between a shower and a bath, the river and the ocean: A river carves snakes in mountains, but all rivers become the sea. When the sea swallows mountains on a whim, everyone drifts; rivers are only memories buried in the chasms where mermaids one day will dive for our shining bones. Something can keep me from the forbidden deep; but for now I am distracted a moment more, by mermaids swimming in circles around my tower. http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange/buxoms.html ***The Buxoms: Svengali-free since 1998!!*** ______________________________________________________ Sent by FortuneCity Mail at http://www.fortunecity.com Join now and receive 20Mb of free web space and E-mail +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Grrrtrude at xxx.com Fri Apr 21 05:26:55 2000 From: Grrrtrude at xxx.com (Grrrtrude at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:26:55 EDT Subject: Sinister: sunset city - b+s content Message-ID: <9c.306ded8.2631328f@aol.com> i heard the song "sunset city", which was a live version credited to B+S, but it didn't sound like them. can anyone clear up whether this is a b+s song and if it isn't, who sings it? thanks. :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Fri Apr 21 06:12:25 2000 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:12:25 +1200 Subject: Sinister: me and the majordomo Message-ID: <003b01bfab50$5c47b580$f16137d2@computer> Hello everyone. I've been let out of the nursary (for the second time now), so thought I'd mail and say "hi" and also introduce myself. Well, I was a member for most of last year, but then my internet connection at tech expired, and I've only recently bought a new computer, hence re-subscribing. I'm 25, and live in New Zealand. Basically, in a city of about one million, I am pretty much the only Belle & Sebastian fan. It's not such a great place if you're into indie-pop. I just got a Delgados t-shirt from ATP, and even though I feel like a real hipster wearing it, it's unlikely that anyone will ever say "wow - you like The Delgados!" to me as I walk down the street. (sigh) ight now I'm a freelance web designer, which basically means that I did a course in it last year, and nobody wants to give me a "real" job, so I pick up bits and pieces whilt also doing a mind-numbing office job. My main passions in life are pop music and books, and I love Belle & Sebastian best of all. I'm pretty interested in Glasgow indie generally - Orange Juice, early Aztec Camera, Josef K, Mogwai and The Delgados, as well as 80's post-punk pop like Echo & The Bunnymen, The Teardrop Explodes, The Pale Fountains, The Smiths, The Lilac Time and Felt. (ah yes ... Felt) I even have a Felt t-shirt, although, once again, no one is likely to notice living here. Right now my main sideline is builing what will hopefully be THE definitive Orange Juice website. (Well, there are practically no otheres so it shouldn't be hard.) In fact, if there are any kinds out there who are also fans of the great OJ (and really, all B&S fans should at least appreciate them) please get in touch, as I'm trawling for content at the moment and (again) living way down here there isn't much Well, that's it ... glad to be back in league with you beautiful people Lawrence Mikkelsen http://www.akn.quik.co.nz/mikelsen/aboutme +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From julesmarkham at xxx.net Fri Apr 21 08:59:22 2000 From: julesmarkham at xxx.net (julesmarkham) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:59:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the fear the fear the fear! Message-ID: <007301bfab68$06b16220$0a488cd4@tonygeorge> another crush vote! I am paralytic with terror! One vote could just be a fluke but two! who is voting for me?! Who are you?! AArrrrrgghhhh! in a self-conscious state of 'I'm-not-even-that-good-looking induced fear jules x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DKerr at xxx.uk Fri Apr 21 11:42:30 2000 From: DKerr at xxx.uk (Kerr, David) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:42:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hellooooooooo, Is there anybody there? Message-ID: <6062D80787FBD3118E4100104B92F49E058002@MAILSERVER> Alrighty There Where is everyone today? Is anybody else working or is it just me? C'mon someone has to be able to cheer me up. Pleeeeeeeeease. Office work is just the biggest pile of monkey spunk ever!!!! Sitting behind a desk all day can drive you to drink. Mmmmmmmmmm alcohol. A cool pint of Dry Blackthorn would go down a treat right now. Couldn't even afford a pint right now even though I want one pretty badly. (Signs of an alcohol problem setting in) I HATE HATE HATE getting paid on a monthly basis. You live like a king for the first weekend then you're struggling for money for the rest of the month even though you have an overdraft as well. I think it's about time I took the next big step in my life. I think I'll go and get myself a credit card. I'm sure some more debt would cheer me up. Well I'm off to phone the Missing Persons' Bureau to see if anyone is looking for me. Peace Out Davie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NOGOODNIK at xxx.net Fri Apr 21 16:17:39 2000 From: NOGOODNIK at xxx.net (christa) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:17:39 -0400 Subject: Sinister: tired of whys, choking on whys, i just need a little because Message-ID: <003801bfaba4$bc6cdae0$4d339cd1@e44e9> its raining again and there is a parrot on my windowsill. its sheltered there, so i suppose its not too strange. my cat seems quite interested in the goings-on... they're eyeing each other suspiciously through the old fashioned crank-out window. he's meowing to be let out, but i want the bird to stay. at least long enough to show me what to do next. is he here to help me decipher late-night whispers about trust and permanence? will he help me figure out what "the long haul" really means? this boy i know promised me he'd never let me leave, and that means something. perhaps this bird will bring clarity..? the cat is catnapping now, aware but indifferent. the bird is winking at me "you know what to do"; he ruffles and flies off. and it does indeed become clearer. because i know, deep inside, that i won the fight. i am content in the knowledge that i have won. all the happiness and bunny-rabbit finger puppets in the world are mine. that boy laid the world out open in front of me, and i am finally ready to accept it. as my own. "Somebody's Song" This is what i vow: He shall have my heart to keep; Sweetly will we stir and sleep, All the years, as now. Swift the measured sands may run; Love like this is never done; He and i are welded one; This is what i vow. This is what i pray: Keep him by me tenderly; Keep him sweet in pride of me, Ever and a day; Keep me from the old distress; Let me, for our happiness, Be the one to love the less: This is what i pray. This is what i know: Lovers' oaths are thin as rain; Love's a harbinger of pain- Would it were not so! Ever is my heart a-thirst, Ever is my love accurst; He is neither last nor first; This is what i know. -Dorothy Parker -------------------------------------------------------- now on constant repeat: "wild is the wind"- catpower "don't cry"- mogwai +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marshalltindall at xxx.com Sat Apr 22 02:49:20 2000 From: marshalltindall at xxx.com (Marshall Tindall) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 19:49:20 MDT Subject: Sinister: snow Message-ID: <20000422014921.49703.qmail@hotmail.com> Yay! I,m finally out of the nursery, feels good, real good. Anyway I originally wanted to write about a week and a half ago, forgetting that I was in the nursery....(here's my original message) This is my first time to the list, but I had to write. Well.. I didn't have to I suppose, but it seemed appropriate. Anyway, I just had a really great experience, I stayed up all night (that isn't it, quit snickering) and was walking back to my dorm at about 7:00 am and it started snowing. I went outside in my shirtsleeves and tried to catch snow on my tongue, but resisted the urge to make a snow angel. After my inner, or outer, child had had enough fun, I stood in the middle of a field, just me and the snow with footprints (except mine), it was all very serene and beautiful in the morning halflight. For that moment I forgot about exams and dating and money and all that other shit and focused on a nice peaceful feeling inside myself and the on spectacle around me. The next morning, the snow had been trampled by others and I felt like I had lost a part of me... but I suppose I really haven't as I still have the experience and that peaceful feeling to carry around with me... Anyway I just had to right that down, looks and sounds kind of daft I suppose, but its special to me, thanks for humouring me if you made it this far. Oh crap, no B&S content, well relate it to 'Fox in the Snow' however you want... Thanks for reading, Marshall (That was a little while ago, but today its sunny and really hot! stupid Canadian weather...grumble grumble) I want legal man, the new LP, some new B&S!!! Ummm... bye Marshall ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mickcooke at xxx.com Sat Apr 22 19:51:08 2000 From: mickcooke at xxx.com (mickcooke at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:51:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Updated Band Site Message-ID: <0004221451086T.12905@weba8.iname.net> Hello there, Just a wee note to say that I've updated the top10 and photo sections of the band site at http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home/ I keep getting sent rude top10's, some of which are even a bit too rude to put on the site. Should I do an uncensored site somewhere on the web? Any suggestions? Cheers, Mick +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ussher at xxx.ca Sun Apr 23 00:42:16 2000 From: ussher at xxx.ca (Allen) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:42:16 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Sinister: need help!! Message-ID: Sorry for this, but it's a list abuse. But I need some help. Yeah, I haven't posted to the list in ages, but I've been, er, busy. Yeah, that's it. Anyway, I need some help 'cause I'm moving to Toronto in about a week. And guess what, I don't have a place to live yet! Haha. Ah, life is fun and exciting, no? So if anybody can give me any help in finding an apartment, please mail me. I'm expecting to probably stay in a hotel for a few days while I'm looking for a place. And the even more wonderful thing is I will get to Toronto late Friday afternoon and then start work Monday morning. Hahahah. So if ya got a tip on an apartment that's gonna be available or whatever, email me. Or if you know of a good place to stay while I'm looking for a place, mail me too. Anywho, I found out too that the attire is "business casual" so I'm gonna have to run to the Gap and buy some boring clothes. But I am looking forward to moving to Toronto. Oh yeah, I'm from Edmonton (boohoo, the Oilers our out of the playoffs) so this is pretty much the biggest move in my life. If anyone has some moving stories to tell me, that would be cool too. :) And I am scared of moving too since I don't know a single soul there and I'm so far from home. If I wanna go home, I'd have to hop on a plane. I've never lived that far away before! Ooh, I'm listening to some bossa nova now which I would never have listened to (well, probably not) unless I had heard B&S's bossa nova-esque "Ease Your Feet..." Doncha love it when one thing you like leads to another thing you instantly like as well? See, I figured out a way to make this an on-topic post! This is getting long and boring, so I'll stop now. there. Allen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Apr 23 01:40:36 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 01:40:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: A Dream Of All the Bowlie Kids That Hang Around You Message-ID: <000101bfacbc$ad7c5920$cf0c073e@default> Hallo, Bollocks, there goes another reference to Camber Sands, sorry. Oops, I think that bollocks is one too: "Oh my God, I just found out what your bollocks is! I always thought it was your ass!" :) Actually I don't know why I am apologising for mentioning ATP: I am mystified as to why an activity common to a score of listees & half of Belle and Sebastian should not be a suitable topic on Sinister. Meatier, Beatier, Bigger & Bouncier is what struck me on first listening to the promo of Geometrid I acquired today. Of course I should really have put it away for a couple more weeks before playing it, but I think that would be a bit silly. If I were fortunate enough for someone to give me a copy of FYHC,YWLAP I would of course listen to it immediately, seeing as how we haven't had a release from the band for a millennium or so. I wonder how far one could take the "not listening until official release date" position, anyway? What if Jeepster posted pre-orders so as to arrive on the Friday before release Monday again? Would you wait 3 days before playing it? And if so, at what time on Monday morning would it be OK to start the CD player? 9 a.m. when the shops open, or say, 10.30 a.m. as being the time when one would first get home from town? Anyway, Geometrid. I like Stuart David, & I don't think he smells of wee at all. But I have to admit to being a wee bit disappointed that the album gently waves farewell after a mere 35 minutes & 10 seconds. Leaving the question of value for money aside altogether, the album is cracking, more up tempo & diverse than its predecessor, & has more than one tune :) The touching romanticism of the Stuart & Wee Karn story is absent, but the humour isn't, & other childlike stories are told with that impish grin, to toe tapping beats, with added bleeps'n bloops. Excellent stuff, but I think I'm making it sound boring & its NOT so I'll shut u BTW, the Looper site lists UK dates in June, see http://www.geometrid.co.uk/news.htm or if you're too lazy: Sun 4 Hove- Old Market Mon 5 Bristol- Fleece & Firkin Tues 6 Portsmouth- Wedgewood Rooms Wed 7 Manchester- Music Box Thurs 8 London- Camden Dingwalls Fri 9 Harlow Square Sat 10 Glasgow- King Tut's Sun 11 Edinburgh (venue tbc) Mick, if you're looking for somewhere to put rude Top Tens, why not ask Honey to put them next to the Body Parts page, where I see that another, thankfully blurry, winkle has emerged from its shell? Love to you all, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Sun Apr 23 01:56:26 2000 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 01:56:26 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: You Sir, Are A Poliwhirl* Message-ID: <20000423005626.14246.qmail@web1704.mail.yahoo.com> Dear Sinister, isn't it good when you get ideas in your head and you decide that they will be the principle of your life for at least until you go to bed and wake up the next morning feeling a little disconserted? These ideas of course should always be inspired by Pop of course. As everyone knows that P!O!P! is the land of the zany and madcap, the swingeing principles that lose you all your friends, the highs and lows, the aubergines and the eggplants.... Hmmm. I'm listening to a Japanese pop group, who seem to be from the planet Squiggly Geetar Solos followed by The Bit Where In The Film Soundtrack Patrick Swayze and "bird" Snog For The First Time Where It Goes All Slow And Then Rocks Out Again. Make any sense of that? It makes sense when you listen to the song. Bah. I've been thinking about the Clientele again. I still want to be the sulky kid in the corner clutching a pint of beer. I have decided they're the band I love to hate, which everyone else probably decided when I first opened my mouth on the subject. Everything I say about them comes out in the vein of what Great Pop should be - however since when have I liked textbook examples. Everything I feel I should like but which I just can't bring myself too. And I'm not fucking going too. Why am I so bloody defensive? God, I piss myself off!! And Stephin Merrit is God. Isobel Campbell is NOT. The WAAAAAAAAAH!!!! sound on Crazy Horses is God too. What other Pop groups are Godlike? Should I be reading Trousercuts to tell me? Reserve me a copy. I remember when Papercuts was first concieved you know. What a long way its come since then. I hear they're even selling enough to keep the editor in hairslides. Ah the dizzying heights of Stardom. I read a fucking ace interview with Mike Oldfield and um...Wolfsbane today. I salute thee in the name of RAWK, Sarah xo * What else would I say? ===== "But just remember, when your teacher told you to always find a home for stray animals, she wasn't referring to your rectum." -- DNA Mag-AZINE. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From RPushong at xxx.com Sun Apr 23 03:26:22 2000 From: RPushong at xxx.com (RPushong at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 22:26:22 EDT Subject: Sinister: ...she comes from the rain... Message-ID: <5a.42ebf3b.2633b94e@aol.com> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ please rain fall... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i always find myself playing belle & sebastian when it rains...i find them to be an ideal accompaniment for the sound of rain...its funny how the weather can affect your listening habits...when its sunny and warm i play broadcast...and in the winter/christmas time i tend to reach for phil spector...and his christmas album...it manages to put even me into the christmas spirit! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ the day the rain came down ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i hope everyone is having a relaxing easter holiday...i'm not back to work until tuesday...i'm ashamed to say i haven't got much planned at all...i will stay in and do the tapes/mds/cds that i have promised to various people...i have had allot on my plate recently...but i haven't forgotten...and i am notorious for being late...i hold the record at my work for being late for work...i believe its been 3 months since i've arrived on time...but they are pretty relaxed about that sort of thing so its a kind of like a joke to everyone...& i do live far away from where i work...so i get allot of sympathy... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ rainy day mushroom pillow... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i finally got to hear "and you will know us by the trail of the dead" ... i don't know ... it just wasn't what i expected at all...my own observation was if you imagine swervedriver trying very hard to be sonic youth...that's what you would come up with...which is all very good in theory...but it didn't really come across to well...it was an equal disappointment when i heard "muse"...for about 1 month i was convinced it was radiohead... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ though it poured the next day, i never noticed the rain... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i mentioned swervedriver before...so i feel a bit of continuity coming on ... i liked swervedriver when they were around...they were the most american sounding english band ever! but i'm glad to see like most of the bands that i liked back in the day...that they are in there own way still making records..." toshack highway "(now that's a name!) features adam franklin the former singer of swervedriver...and i must say its quite a departure from swervedriver...but its fantastic ... its great to see those sort of people still making music...you've got slowdive still represented by the dreamy "mojave 3 "...wedding present dave gedge and his "cinerama"...the weather prophets & mainly pete astor still preaching with" the wisdom of harry "..." razorcuts till cutting it with " sportique "east village...and the jangle of "birdie" ... talulah gosh and "marine research" ...god the more i think about i'm starting to frighten myself! the wolfhounds dave callahan and "moonshake" spacemen 3's jason pierce and "spiritualized "... even death in vegas feature ex-revolver singer and guitarist matt flint playing bass... even though richard fear hogs all of the headlines... but the ultimate line-up...a line up i would never have been able to put together in my wildest dreams is primal scream...now featuring ex-members of felt, stone roses my bloody valentine, jamc, revolving paint dream, cos believe it or not folks the scream were there at the very start...they were the kings of twee! with songs like "all fall down" and "crystal crescent"...& not forgetting possibly the greatest b-side of all time "velocity girl" ... they are a fantastic example of how a band can keep on trying to progress with every album...they didn't always get it right (the very rawk inspired self titled second album just about saved by the excellent" i'm losing more than i ever had" noone can accuse them of coming up with the same old same old... ~~~~~~~~~~~~ rain stops play... ~~~~~~~~~~~~ i've been doing a good job of avoiding the new b&s single i don't listen to the radio so its not been too hard...so i'm eagerly awaiting it...but in the meantime i've been listening to "clock strikes thirteen" ever decreasing circles & it is very wonderful & soothing to the ear...a wonderful album...on a complete departure i was very pleased to see the pharcyde get a mention on these pages...remember a little bit of hiphop never did anyone any harm...and the pharcyde are responsible for one of my favourite videos of all time! the name escapes me but the whole video was played in reverse & it made for some hilarious visuals...this video and the excellent squarepusher "come on my selector" which features a young manga looking girl and her spooky dog are my two favourite videos ever! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ why does the rain?... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ well kids i apologise for my pointless ramble...but sometimes i have to get these thoughts of my chest...thanks for putting up with me ... take care everyone...over and out... richard...i...p +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From secretmysterydate at xxx.com Sun Apr 23 07:26:57 2000 From: secretmysterydate at xxx.com (brand new shoes) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 02:26:57 EDT Subject: Sinister: b-day with the gang Message-ID: <20000423062657.13736.qmail@hotmail.com> 'ello loves, this is a pointless post, right out, so if you are not in the mood, go right on and back space to delete, 'kay? i just came from a tragic birthday party for my friend Meesha to which very few people came. it was so sad. she is the most beautiful person. she just didn't tell anyone it was her day, y'know? it's her golden birthday too, and it was mine this year as well, which also kind of sucked, so maybe it's just a thing with golden birthdays. i left early because she was getting tipsy and she and vanessa kept telling me a had to take my shirt of for them, so to avoid embarassing memories tomorrow, i thought it better to leave. a pleasant side not, as i was leaving, Electronic Renaissance was playing, so it stuck in my head. and also my friend brady paid for all of our dinners at a fancy fancy restaurant, which was a lovely gesture that will give me guilt for ages... for all those that i talked to earlier on #sinister, it is evident that i am no longer a complete freakshow-stress-boy, as i was hours ago. it reached a point where not only did i have millions of things to do, but everything went wrong, and i completely deflated, and found myself half-laying on my couch with one kitten on my hip and one at my head, watching 'friends' and reading Flaunt magazine, feeling sorry for myself... i could bitch to no end about the horrors of this day, but instead will just give a brief run down of the little 'princess and the pea' style bumps that looked so huge i couldn't deal...the local photo shop couldn't do same day slides, light rain started before shooting new slides outside of paintings b/c i optimistically bought day light film, camera's rewind nob broke (replaced quickly thank god), tripod was stolen from studio, almost got in 4 car accidents, friends vanished when i needed them, computer crashed and destroyed 4 hours of video editing, umm, the list could go on, but mercifully stops here. suffice to say, i am tipsy now and feeling right content with the pathetic attempts made to conquer what was obviously a day that was not meant to happen. mmm if anyone in the pittsburgh area is going to the Need show tomorrow, i will be there, you'll know me by, um, well, nothing really. i can't promise to wear anything, as the weather has been so unpredictable. mmmmmm oh! one more sad thing... Where have my list crushes gone!!! i had 4 at one point and now it is down to 1!! did i do something awful? did i suddenly become lame? my fragile ego is ruined :) no, i have one and that is all i need and you fickle mind-changers are just missing out, yeah? :) (not really i suppose, i swear i'm not that full of myself) plus, i know who my one is, and that is pleanty for me. she gets all my kisses! mmmmmwah! okay, this is long enough. my sincere appologies for rambling like this. i suppose it is list abuse to use you all as a sounding board for my grumps, please forgive. much love to all of you, tipsy and boring, li'l sam ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Sun Apr 23 10:15:45 2000 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:15:45 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: SmAsH-iNg TiMe!! Message-ID: <20000423091545.8727.qmail@web3004.mail.yahoo.com> Hello beautiful ones... Well... it's Sunday... I remember my first post to the list under a different name... 'twas called: EvErYdAy'S LiKe SuNdAy Why do I hate Sundays so much? I do hate them ever since I was a child... but that's not what I want to talk to you about... I had a terrible aCciDeNt last night... I fell with my scooter... 'twas horrible! See, I was out with the guys last night; first we went to this place where they serve this grate HoMe-mAde WiNe and then we went to that place called CohiBa where our friend Nick was DJing... mmmmm... we were dancing and did all crazy stuff... Nick played a lot of lounge and easy listening and some bossa nova as well... there was that girl there with the most amazing hair ever... she looked like... mmm.... Kim - bluddy - Karnes Eventually we left and I was riding my scooter alone in the streets of the city.... I had my walkman on and was listening to one of the most lovely, desperate songs ever "HoMeBoY" by Adorable... suddenly I saw a cab in front of me... I pressed the breaks... back break doesn't work - I wanted to have it fixed for so long but it costs so much - I pushed the front break... and I started slipping... slipping.... and fell... my scooter crashed on the back side of the cab where as I was on the street... it was a grate fall mind you! very stylistic... not to mention that I was wearing my white fairy jacket... fortunately I had my helmet on, so no head injuries... I hurt my knee quite badly tho'... and now I have a swollen blueish knee to the size of a tennis ball... I hurt my hands as well... I stood up and saw in a blur the cabbie with his two passengers getting out of the cab... they lifted up my poor sputnik (my scooter) and tried to persuade me to go to the hospital, but I refused to go... I mean, I don't know, can't really tell, but it must have been quite a scary fall as these 3 people looked so pale and frightened... after I re-assured then I was fine and I was in a position to get back on my scooter and ride back home, they asked me where I was from and what I was doing here... so, I told them that I worked in the uni... the highlight of that amazing evening... the one of the guys in the cab made a pass on me... YeS! Now can you believe that? I was all shaken, trembling cause of the shock, my knee was killing me, and he was just standing there asking me if there was a café in the uni and if it was any good... I said "yeah, there's one and it's really good... for the students.." and left... bastard! I got back on my scooter, put my walkman on and started half-singing half-crying as I was riding back home... what? "LoVe is BettEr tHaN WaR" by the TELeViSiOn PeRsOnALiTiEs As soon as I got back home I put on the CD by FeLt "poem of the river"+"forever breathes the lonely word" that Richard made for me... I guess he justifies his role as the SiNiStEr SanTa ClAuSs so well.... BeLLe & SeBaStiAn contexxxxxxx well, Mike and StuartM. were in jeepster chat last night... yes!! I got there late myself, so I didn't get to hear anything interesting... except from the fact that Stuart was watching Telly at the moment... that's it... the weather's great here but I wish it was raining... oh, that was so boring... sorry about that.. I have to go now and watch "Dawson's Creek"... somethings are so dumb they're charming... Spooka-Dee-Loops my dog gave me a lick on my hip bone last night when I came back after the accident as I was putting my jeans down to check the bruises... that was quite comforting... Oh!!! another thing... Lovely Hannah, not our own Hannahdoll, has started a Baxendale list... mmm, I don't know about the rest of you but I do love Baxendale... the addy for those who wanna join is: http://www.onelist.com/community/superpopelectronix Yeah! bye bye sweat peas take care love that flies over the oceans +easterchocobunnies+melodyPoPs! Vel xxooxx ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From apytmw at xxx.uk Sun Apr 23 12:13:17 2000 From: apytmw at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 12:13:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Happy Easter kids!!!!!! Message-ID: <3902E8DC.18534.36B60A@localhost> Hi everyone, Back after the Easter Hols to find out that today is EASTER SUNDAY... I've been told that, at nearly 20, I'm too old for Easter eggs and should grow up or sommat. This hit me like being told tou died without noticing it... not the lack of easter eggs, but being OLD... it is terrible. Tuesday will find me trapsing the ailes of Tesco for the bargin eggs that no-one wanted. I haven't been able to get at the puter in ages, but having read through an assortment of over 450 emails, there seems to be some negative stuff regarding ATP. Hmmm, seemed OK to me... the only festival this year with bands who care about music... the place to go and see all yr favorite space/ post rock, with a gorgoeus beach, watching Stuart M play football, John Peel Djing, bars open till 5 for dancing then off to the beach etc thrown into the bargain... it truely was a wonderful time. The highlight was, quite posibly, stumbling accros a Track and Field party at half 5 one morning. My companions, having not hard the delights of boxing hefner before, found the 'I'm going to make myself go blind tonight' refrain of hello kitten extramly funny, and insisted on screaming it all the way to the beach at 6 in the morning. It was then that one of the kids decided he could fly, which he couldn't remember doing at Bowlie last year, so he definatley preferred this year. Anyway, thats all old news now... but I haven't much else to say. uch is life. Have a good Easter y'all... love, mark xxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david at xxx.uk Sun Apr 23 15:56:04 2000 From: david at xxx.uk (David White) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 15:56:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Put the newspaper back on the shelf... Message-ID: Greetings Sinister, Don't know if anybody else saw the "Exclusive" story in the Sunday Mail today about B&S. If you missed it you can read a transcription of the article on my website www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk just follow the link to the News page and it should be there. Must thank whoever it was on the list who mentioned that HMV were punting The Smiths CDs for £6.99. I bought their Best I and II and I have to say they are superb. I always thought that Morrisey was a whining git but now having listened to the music properly I have to say its excellent. Thats all folks, Dave www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From julesmarkham at xxx.net Sun Apr 23 15:58:33 2000 From: julesmarkham at xxx.net (julesmarkham) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 15:58:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: further fables of the fox kind Message-ID: <003801bfad34$7c1ddde0$a9488cd4@tonygeorge> hey sinister people. here's a little fable. It's an old one, before jubilee showed up with her griffin and her funny way of saying things. enjoy. The black fox had been walking through the woods a long time. She was hot and tired and thirsty and the sun was giving her a headache. She started to search for water, and eventually came upon a great river that wound through the trees like a serpent. She dunked her head into the cold, clear water and drank. Out of the corner of her eye she saw a flash of gold. This golden shimmer was not a hallucination, but the river god. The river god had once been worshipped, but now the only offerings he received were the stale breadcrumbs that the ducks left behind. he watched the black fox as she drank, and thought how strange she was, and how much he wanted her. He moved slowly closer to the fox. The fox glanced up from her drinking and saw a fish moving amongst the reeds. She admired its shining golden scales and the way it moved through the water. It's dull black eyes watched her. It moved up to the waters edge and put its nose to the surface. The fox stared in silence. The river god willed her to come closer, as soon as she was within reach, he would pull her down into the muddy depths and hold her until she stopped kicking. There she would join all his other treasures. Patiently, he waited. The fox touched her nose to the waters surface, and felt the golden fish touch the tip of her snout. There was a splash of water, a gasp and struggle. The fox pulled the fish out onto the grassy bank. The river god gasped for breath and writhed helplessly. the fox batted him gently with a paw. -Don't kill me! The river god cried, -Please! I'll give you anything! The fox loosened her grip on the small god. ~Anything? -Yes, gold, jewels, anything! ~Where would a fish find gold, then? -I am a god, they were my offerings. The fox raised her eyebrows. She had never met a god before. To be honest, she thought it would be more impressive. ~I let you go and you give me all your treasure? -All I have and more. Please don't kill me. The fox shook her head. ~What use is gold to a fox? It wont fill my belly or quench my thirst. And with that, she swallowed the river god in two gulps. The black fox lay down on the grass and closed her eyes, and in a few moments was asleep. jules x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From oooon at xxx.com Sun Apr 23 17:38:07 2000 From: oooon at xxx.com (oooon) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 23:38:07 +0700 Subject: Sinister: Tokyo state of mind References: <0004221451086T.12905@weba8.iname.net> Message-ID: <390326EE.B36FC698@cscoms.com> Hello everyone, David, i like all ATP stories so please don't stop. i wonder what Japanese pop group Ms Sarah is listening to? Larc en ciel (sp?)? this is a band that is very hugh in Japan. and probably in Thailand too. i like looking at them, preferably turning off the volume. music isn't that bad actually but aften 10 times it gets me crak. the point is they are good to look at, not just meaning good looking, just they're so POPSTAR. unlike current any western popstar i can think of these days. is it just me getting old or boybands these days are so dull? aren't they supposed to be extremely good looking to get girl's money? anyway, i'm trying to get to the point where i can casually announce an information i've found out last week about a Japanese group.... Color Filter. the man behind the band whose name i sorrily can't remember makes such wonderful music. and has an interesting day job! a nuclear scientist! received some sort of a Japanese Noble Prize! how impressive! while i'm talking Japanese, hello and welcome to my new neighbour Ms Yuka. relatively speaking. the land of cakes? i all western countries the land of cakes because that's where cakes came from. i love cakes! one of the pleasure of being alive is to freshly bake cake and lot lot of fresh cream. talking about pleasure of being alive, how come noone mention that vinyl playing bus little thing!!! um maybe someone have but i haven't read that far in those thousand of post in my box? i'm so out of touch with new technology. and the world in general. i wake up at 6:30 today it's a surprise i can still write any foreign language at all. Mr Cooke wrote: > I keep getting sent rude top10's, some of which are even > a bit too rude to put on the site. Should I do an uncensored > site somewhere on the web? Any suggestions? Mick if i'm not mistaken YOU have a song call Dickslap. how ruder can a top 10 be? does it mean my project of compiling "top 10 thai news i read this year" won't pass censor? i've only got a few so far. due to the little amount of news i read. let see a short example: an enrage wife cut off her husband thingy and release it to the sky with a balloon. (note: our doctors are famous for such stitching back operation so wife have to be creative to ensure the effectiveness of her revenge) (this happened long time ago though, but it appeared again lately in an article about our acheivement with space travelling. something like that) is this rude? should i just save it for Princess Honey's fragrant list only. anyone meet Mr Miller yet? make sure to shoot some of his bodypart and send to the gallery! have a nice trip Peter. good to see Mr Chris back. and Keith too. and Tag has answered my call to the wilderness. tell us about the new house for your and Elisa record mountains soon! have a nice day to you all, oon xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alan.singfield at xxx.com Sun Apr 23 17:56:17 2000 From: alan.singfield at xxx.com (Alan Singfield) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 17:56:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: So Belle and Sebastian are going to be popular eh? Message-ID: <6357CBA4ECC4D211A67C00805FD787D75AEA1A@shuban.isoftplc.com> Hello all. *P*r*o*p*s* to David White for posting this article from the Sunday Mail - I'm going to Scotland next week but I think all copies of it will be pulp by then... > Meanwhile Belle and Sebastian look poised to have their first Top 20 hit > with the single Legal Man. And music business insiders predict the band > will shed their shy indie reputation this summer and prove that they have > what it takes to challenge Steps in the charts, having already beaten them > in the Brits popularity poll. > "In terms of the quality of their songs and their looks they can easily take on > Steps," said one industry insider who has followed the bands career. "I think > they are better looking and better dancers." > "Legal Man has the potential to go Top 10 and they will get bigger over this > summer. Maybe not to Travis levels, but they will be big." > This could explain Waterman's bizarre outburst and comparison with Peter > and Gordon. "Mr Waterman should know about cheesy pop stars. He is the > world expert on the subject," retorted the source. "But Belle and Sebastian > certainly are not cheesy." > "They could have a string of Top 20 singles, number one albums and make > a lot of money if they wanted. But I think they would become big in the same > way as New Order or The Smiths, rather then Steps." P!O!P!ularity is such a mixed blessing. On the one hand, we'll be able to put smug indie heads on saying - "Well, *I* had a copy of Tigermilk before they'd even written the songs, in fact, I got mine before Stuart was born. Blah blah early Smiths etc" On the other hand, we'd lose the opportunity for evangelism and boring our friends with "No, you really should listen to Belle and Sebastian, they really are very good, no honest, they really are". This is worth it for the one person who becomes a convert (I nearly wrote convent then, ho hum) Instead, liking B&S would be like supporting Man Utd - your'e just one of the masses and there's no personal (if imaginary) relationship with the band. That was frighteningly on-topic, so here's some list abuse: BUY YOUR SOAP FROM JOHN'S CORNER SHOP. HELLO LUCY ALDER - MY BUNS ARE CLENCHED FOR YOU... MY MATE DAZZO IS DOING SOME RAVE DJING IN EAST GRINSTEAD ITS £3 IN. Looking forward to the new records with baited breath! Spanners. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dchard at xxx.ca Sun Apr 23 18:23:05 2000 From: dchard at xxx.ca (ipecac spice) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 14:23:05 -0300 (ADT) Subject: Sinister: once again i have no witty subject line...but it's the last time Message-ID: hi everyone. in a week i will be gone. hey! you don't have to look so happy! i just wanted to say an early goodbye. i won't have a computer at my place. i will probably be able to sneak back to the university now and then to check my messages (for as long as they let me keep this account) but not often enough to keep up with you lot. thanks to everyone who ever actually read one of my posts and especially thanks to everyone who ever actually replied to one of my posts. last monday i turned 22. what an icky sounding age. i was thinking that i might stay 21 for an extra year and then just move on to 23. my mom said i could do it b/c everyone thinks i'm 18 anyway. most of my friends forgot my birthday :( and i had to stay in and study b/c i had my last exam the next day. how strange to be done. i think i can pick my thesis up monday eek! and i go sign my lease tomorrow! eeek again! anyway, i digress...so, everyone forgot my birthday. i had a phone call from my bestest friend and 2 e-mails. the ex (some of you probably remember my rants about him) called me and didn't even mention that it was my birthday! i don't even understand why he persists in calling when it is so blatantly obvious that we have nothing to say to each other. it actually turned out to be a great birthday. i went out for girlie drinks and dancing on wednesday night. most of my friends came and my little bro and a girl from work. it was the best birthday i've had in ages. i did not make a drunken fool of myself. i wasn't even drunk. i had some yummy drinks though. it was retro night at the bar and we danced up a storm. it was fun b/c i am usually really self conscious and worry far too much what other people think of me. even though i was pretty sober i didn't care what anybody thought of me and my dancing. the disturbing thing is that music that i can remember being brand new (from junior high) is now retro! they played lots of the 70s and 80s standards (and some earlier ones) but then they played the humpty dance, marky mark, right said fred, c&c music factory! i don't think 90s should be retro yet. i am not that old! ah well, it was fun. i went to the sunrise service with my mom today. now that made me feel old. a girl i used to babysit was all grownup and a couple of girls i remember being little kids were talking about graduating from high school. my mom says it just means that i should go to church more. i think it means i should just not go at all. seems kind of silly to go to church when i don't believe in god. but i keeps her happy (my mom that is, not god). anyway...i don't want to get into a whole religious discussion. just wanted to mention the feeling old. my mom married my dad when she was 20 (engaged when she was 19)! i'm 22 and only just about to move out of my house! funny how much things change over generations. i'm going to be living all by myself! exciting but expensive. i am scared of bugs. i'm just subletting for the summer though and the guy who i'm subletting from is coming back in the fall so i figure it can't be badly bug infested if he's coming back...right? my little brother might have cockroaches in his apt! eww! i live in fear of bugs. i don't know why. when i was in california i nearly lost it i developed the habit of checking all the walls and the ceiling for bugs when i entered a room. i don't know if i could handle living in a place with poison spiders. was it someone on this list who told me about how on average we swallow about 6 spiders a year? b/c when we sleep they crawlinto our mouths since it's so nice and warm and damp and dark and then gulp we swallow them! i know...i'm rambling. it's my last post! if you don't like it you can delete! it's just b/c i have enjoyed you all so much and have to get it out of my system. i'm still waiting for the lazy line painter jane box set. it should be here any day now. any day. i'm going to go now. has anyone noticed that i have not done my usual moaning and whining about boys? it's not just b/c i thought i'd be nice and not subject you all to it. i just don't feel like complaining. there are no boys on my horizon and i don't care! hmm...how odd...i wonder if this strange comfort will pass. anyway...if anyone cares to write me i'll be here until may 1st. bye, di he who hates is to be pitied, but he who loves is to be pitied more -german proverb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Sun Apr 23 18:41:47 2000 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:41:47 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: the lardiness of the no-distance runner Message-ID: <20000423174147.13500.qmail@web303.mail.yahoo.com> Hello *** WARNING! OFF TOPIC RANT... POLITICS INVOLVED *** Top marks to Mr. Clinton and the FBI for the sensitive handling of the Elian business. Good to know that the welfare of the kid has been foremost on the agenda throughout. Hell he probably thought the heavily armoured FBI agent pointing a gun at his family was really cool. The nightmares should only last a few years at most. *** Sorry. Back to normal now... *** I'm starting to feel like the only person in the country not to have hard Legal Man. Does it really sound like the Eurotrash theme? Does this mean the video will feature Struan doing the hoovering in the buff? Maybe some dick-slapping. Here's hoping... As the unusually lovely bank holiday weather stretched on I decided to make good on my promise to get more exercise and take a run along the seafront. The subsequent near-death experience led to the discovery that I am both fat and unfit. Someone tell me it gets easier. Robster ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Sun Apr 23 18:57:39 2000 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:57:39 EDT Subject: Sinister: 'Everyone makes mistakes', said the dalek climbing off the wheelie bin. Message-ID: <62.2afd4c1.26349393@aol.com> Hewwo, Well, i suppose I should start with Happy Easter. Easter is traditionally a time for eating chocolate, but I've been eating tangerines all day, because I like them much better, even though they make my teeth feel funny. I read the Sunday Mail Article. It's scary. I like Peter and Gordon, but I don't think they sound like B&S. I honestly don't believe that Belle and Sebastian will ever become mainstream (god please don't let them, I'd have all the travis/phonics/oasis fans going on about them all around me) because of the time that I took my walkman round the school with '....sinister' on it and played it to about 50 people and only one person thought it was grate and that was me and 50 people thought it was "wussy sh*te".. But I've not heard Legal Man, but my friend said someone made a sort of garagey mix of it and bel's voice was scratched. When music is Garage does that mean that it was made in a garage, or that people listen to it in a garage. Like lots of hard kids bopping about in an Esso station... What is V-Twin? The paper said it was a B&S side progect, but I've never heard of it. Am I just horribley ignorant? One of my other friends came round (I have two you know) and she is into Boyzone, and Travis, and she likes Hefner for the sex and the swearing, and the fact that she wants to pretend she's indie sometimes. She came with me to see Hefner, and was going on about how Belle and Sebastian were the new Smiths blah blah blah, then I said "Laura, you hate both of them and you're obsessed with Boyzone, remember? You're here because it's going to be on telly.". And then she sort of glared at me, and then the guy she was chatting up walked away. It was a while ago but it still makes me smile a bit. She is the person in a century of fakers that is always faking. But you didn't want to know that anyway. I saw the Exorcist. That in itself is a shocking thing to say, because I'm 14 so I broke the law. But it was really, really funny, even though the person I was with got really scared.. And I don't get why everyone got really upset because she stabbed herself with a cross. Oh, and afterwards, I kept rolling my eyes back so you could only see the whites, and she kept getting scareder, and the hitting me. And I did it in Burger King and she hit me so hard that I fell off my seat, and I was lying on the floor choking to death on a kid's chicken nugget, and all everyone did was laugh. But I'll get her back. Maybe. Any Given Sunday is rubbish. Go and see the Pokemon movie. Hugs, Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nessa_fmjod at xxx.com Sun Apr 23 19:05:48 2000 From: nessa_fmjod at xxx.com (nessa) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 11:05:48 -0700 Subject: Sinister: goo Message-ID: 'cheesy pop stars'. thats like, soo funny. No honestly. because I think waterman once agreed that steps were cheesy. I don't call them cheesy. I call them creepy and anyone who has seen that video with the plastic suits will testify. Yes? And I call belle and sebastian gooey pop stars. fuck off waterman. the other thing I liked was 'industry insiders'. I mean, to a 'newspaper' like that we're all industry insiders. And I don't care about b+s getting big as long as it isn't with rugby players. Anyway, the industry insider was obviously a jeepster type. Yes no? I really don't understand why Bis didn\t have a big hit with eurodisco. I couldn't understand back then, but the thing is some people will be prejudiced by the media's view of b+s. Therefore there will be no rugby player fans. sigh of relief. other things: the elliott smith and delgados albums are both very good and I highly recommend them. this has been a debatably indie snob broadcast nessa XXXX --- ******************************************************************** ****************** get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Sun Apr 23 21:30:59 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: wahhey! Message-ID: <20000423203059.14380.qmail@web615.mail.yahoo.com> What an evening! All I planned to do was a bit of shopping, go home, read the Guardian supliments, and go to bed! what actually happened was different... I bought new trainers, I bought delagados new album, I met jeepster/ sinister folk, went pubbing clubbing, dancing and had a great time! My faith has been restored! It was nice to meet like minded folk, and shout over the music about things, and feel so relaxed in their company. They know who they are. But it felt so good to chat to them. Just thought I'd share that with you. okay! bye! ===== http://www.geocities.com/idleberry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Mon Apr 24 00:54:18 2000 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 00:54:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: London Calling... Message-ID: Hello kids, I've abandoned you and I feel like I don't live here anymore. A bit like Jimmy Nail and Madonna I think you'll agree. But it's better to be away than a drunken fop, which unfortunately I am. I've just attended the Track and Field all dayer, and it was popfabulous and great. Honest... Saloon, Airport Girl, Starry's faves the Clientele, spotty geezer's Salako who we heckled to fill the gaps left by an absent member who left to get a job and real money. Apparently Jeepster pay their bands in monopoly money and dinner tokens. Which is nice... I should really also answer my Bowlie II criticisms while I can even though it is ancient news. I did indeed play a scarce part in the Sinister boys victory in the footy, but I left a space in the side for Long Shot Murdoch to take. And I did take a nasty kick on the first day for my unathletic troubles and sleep is important, like vitamins and toast. I've never been called a Collymore before, but it was nice to turn up and join the victory celebrations and not have the boring bit of actually watching the games or the hardship of playing them. Life kids can be GRATE. Actually, I'll shut up before I talk about spilling drinks, muppets and the philosphy of Seneca. Never expect too much kids... To the point anyway, without treading on anyone's toes the picnic in London on the 20th May is now on Greenwich Hill as it's much nearer New Cross and the 2000 Troubled Teenagers extravaganza in the evening. If anyone wants a fight about it I'll probably be in bed asleep so I don't care. It's just common sense isn't it? We'll sort out the details later but that's the score so deal with it. Sorry, I better go as I'm really very drunk I'm starting to fancy Jim Rockford on the telly and that's not right. Te ra, Martin ear confection recordings (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) P.S This email address is becoming increasingly moribund so anyone wishing to carry on abusing me should write to me at toescantalk at yahoo.com. Anyone who knows where the toes thing comes from is a little bit special in my book. Must go eat toast.... p.p.s. martin is a drunken fop indeed. any man who requires an illiterate sod like myself to proofread anything must indeed be inundated with booze. d matt. He's got a point, but he is an arse. oi, i have an arse, to be fair, but whether that can be described as my entire being is a point that has been much debated. People who have met D Matt will concur that there is not very much beyond his arseness that can be commented on. i was recently described as being a 'random very very drunk person'. i have cried myself to sleep ever since. but as for robinson, well, i have had the misfortune of seeing his hairy arse waking me up for the last three months. I'm a bit worried now, I'm starting to have an obsession with Jim Rockford on a level with penguins and I'm trusting the editing opinion of a drunken foppish flatmate who imagines seeing my crack at the crack of dawn. All very worrying really... Anyone know a good locksmith as I feel quite unsafe in the comfort of my own sleeping abode? incidentally, martin's toes can indeed talk, which is a very worrying and quite disturbing sight. Right I've not come here to be insulted, so in conclusion Matt is an arse, the picnic in London on the 20th is in GREENWICH and I spill drinks with distinction. But I'm sure Matt's got some alley he'd like to protrude before I click send... me and alley's, there's far too much talk about this. i plead innocent, yer 'onour. maybe one day i'll actually get round to posting myself about this alley thing. or maybe i should just lie low for a while and let it all blow over. we like each other really, honest. Jim Rockford now has a dressing gown on. It's all too much.... Te ra... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.bartilson at xxx.com Sun Apr 23 13:52:08 2000 From: alexander.bartilson at xxx.com (Alexander Bartilson) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 14:52:08 +0200 Subject: Sinister: the big question of "what if..." Message-ID: <001901bfad63$42720740$01727180@alex> Hi, so the holidays is soon to be over, that's sad but I guess nothing lasts forever (hmm, think I've heard that phrase before). Just wanted to tell you about a thought that I had the other day. It's based on the "sliding doors"- question of "what if...". I mean there's a lot of "what ifs" in a persons life. what if I didn't go to that school and I didn't meet those friends. How would I be as a person, what would my interests be etc. What if I didn't find B & S (we are all experts on getting off-topic mails go on-topic :-) ) and if I didn't subscribe to this list. Maybe this list (more exactly the people on it) will cause me to do something I wouldn't have done otherwise (it's doesn't have to be as drastic as it sounds, just to make a trip or something). To take an example. What if you go on a trip. On that trip you will probably meet some new people (if you're not going to the Arctics or something). Maybe you will get to know these people and they discussions have with them or probably anything you do with them will change your personality, more or less. You will learn thing about the world and about yourself. that will affect you as a person. Now imagine being able to compare the person you are after the trip to the one you would have been not going on that particularly journey. You might see totally different persons. One of the reasons I thought about this was because about two years ago one of my teachers had invited two vegans to talk in front of my class. At that time I was an ordinary meateater. Now I'm a vegetarian and I'm very aware of the animalrights situation. If I haven't met those two vegans I probably wouldn't be the same person today. Just to state an example. Not that much B & S contents but a small philosophical wondering. have a nice life. ///Alexander PS. fun to see that Mick Cooke is on this list. Maybe we can talk him into letting us now some details about the tour. DS +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From browne at xxx.ie Mon Apr 24 01:19:09 2000 From: browne at xxx.ie (Caroline Mary Browne) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 01:19:09 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: structuralism announces the death of the subject. discuss. Message-ID: hello there list its me Caroline Ah dear, what with my finals in a week I find that I have plenty of time to be writing lengthy e-mails to sinister. things take on new meaning and dimension when the only thing you have to do with your time is study and study lots. television becomes a fascinating source of distraction. while flicking around there I was lucky enough to catch a rare showing of stadium rock. Bon Jovi were playing the classic you give love a bad name to an audience of girls who love the way their hair looks when it is dyed a very unnatural shade of blonde and cut the way Armstrong and Millers hair on so 90's is. They go out with boys who have stadium rock mullets. After the show they say they had a really wild time before driving of in their pickup truck. Ive also been catching up on Home and Away which is providing some classic moments of comedy. With the recent story of Duncan gone missing I thought `god the Stewarts really are the most unfortunate family in the world'. Bad things that have happened the Stewarts..... Alf has been shot, blown up (remember by Duncans school project), electricuted, hated by his wife Ailsa, had two heart attacks AND has his bait shop burned to the ground Ailsa has gone insane twice (remember when Bobby came out of the fridge), been held hostage in her own home, been sent to jail, been in car crashes and been paralysed, had her shop (the old one) set on fire, and the new one robbed while Duncan has fallen down a quary from which he emerged 12 years older with completely different facial features or was it just another actor? I think this should be reviewed by the makers of Home and Away as highly unrealistic drama and that the Stewarts should live the rest of their life in peaceful happiness. I do realise that this small bit of television reviewing probably appeals to a very small minority of home and away fans on the list but I feel it is important. Owen ....it is possible to get up to 2000 words written a day. You wouldnt think it but it is. it does mean that at the end of the day you type your thoughts as you think them and that you dream about typing and that the sound of the computer echoes in you inner ear but that goes after a few hours. your april plan should go fine. my april plan on the other hand goes a little something like this....... no. of subjects to cover: 15 days until exams start: 8 no. of subjects to cover a day: very very nearly 2 Anything is possible if you wish hard enough...said peter pan whoever said that Isobel's voice wasnt that bad has obviously not listened to the greenfields of foreverland which requires that, in order to hear her voice the volume be turned up very loud so that when you finish listening to the cd and turn on the radio you give yourself an awful fright. Isobel would never make it as a busker where her voice would be lost entirely in a sea of passerbyers. Well I suppose I better go and study ...lots bye bye list said Caroline xxxxxxyyyyyyyzzzzzzp. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From whatev at xxx.com Mon Apr 24 01:25:55 2000 From: whatev at xxx.com (Steven) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:25:55 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Warning...actual B&S content Message-ID: <001801bfad83$a93e0bc0$5cedb4cf@en.com> Today marks one week since my cat Louise got out and hasn't come back yet. It seems unlikely that I'll get to see her again. I love her very much and am very sad just thinking about it, but haven't given up hope yet. But...to help make things a little brighter here I got my hands on a promo copy of the new album. So I thought I'd tell you all about it. It is exactly the album I was hoping they'd make. Lots of extra strings ala ddn2 which I'm always a sucker for. The Stuart songs are just divine, all of them. His songwriting really just keeps getting better. There's one by Stevie(wrong girl) and one by Isobel(family tree) that we've heard live, but they get nice treatments. There is one song sung by another girl, I'm assuming it's Sarah, that is just great. Way better than any Isobel song, and I like Isobel's songs. The only song I haven't fallen totally for, al least not yet, is sung half by Isobel, and half by a deep voiced guy(Chris?). We'll see if it grows on me. I've still not hear Legal Man. I hope it's as good as this album. My credit card is burning a hole in my wallet just waiting for those damn official tour dates. I want to see them at least one more time before they start to suck or break up. thanks for listening, Steven +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sebastian at xxx.com Mon Apr 24 04:20:23 2000 From: sebastian at xxx.com (pedro simões) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:20:23 -0700 Subject: Sinister: what if i was sleeping instead of writing this Message-ID: <200004240320.UAA22031@mail10.bigmailbox.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From mikelsen at xxx.nz Mon Apr 24 05:34:21 2000 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 16:34:21 +1200 Subject: Sinister: a shorty but a goodie Message-ID: <000d01bfada9$413a95e0$a36137d2@computer> The issue about "value for money" and the new Looper album is an interesting one. I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with 35 minute albums, and I've always been more concerned with the musical quality contained within. Take, for example, "Pink Moon" by Nick Drake. 27 minutes of pure genius, and not a moment too short. Actually, I don't know I could handle anything more than 27 minutes of something so emotionally intense. It was the shortest album I owned until I started buying Lucksmiths albums a few years ago. "First Tape" (with the giraffe on the cover) has 11 songs, and is only 23 minutes long! (About the same length as the last song on the Ultrasound album!) Felt's "Poem of the River" is only 26 minutes .... Hell, I could go on about this all day. The point is, I don't think that equating album length and value for money is entirely fair. What about, say, Alanis Morrissette's "Supposed Former Infatuation Junkie". About 78 aweful minutes ..... I'd say a good short album is more 'value-packed' than a long arse one anyday. All that being say, the new B&S album could be a triple disc prog-rock epic and I'd be lapping up every second of it. (Anyone know when the Jeepster online store is up and running, BTW? I really want to pre-order my single and album.....) Oh, and don't you just LOVE the sound flares make as you run down stairs? Flares make me happy. Lawrence Mikkelsen http://www.akn.quik.co.nz/mikelsen/aboutme +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From julesmarkham at xxx.net Mon Apr 24 13:07:52 2000 From: julesmarkham at xxx.net (julesmarkham) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 13:07:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: knickers! Message-ID: <001401bfade5$d5939c00$f3448cd4@tonygeorge> knickers! Why has life been so vile to me this last month? If it's not abusive phonecalls from my brother at 2am it's the lack of phonecalls from people who were meant to call! I'm starting to distrust the telephone, that squatting plastic crab with a nasty bite that just lies there and glares of you all smug and full of the knowledge of all the power it holds over you. Maybe I should read that Ted Hughes poem 'do not pick up the telephone', or get one of those little pager things that tell you the number of who's calling. until then, I'm going to hide in my room and drink my whisky and listen to my new lambchop & Elliot smith albums and stick to letter writing! sullen and stroppy with the griffin off his leash jules x p.s: if you haven't heard of Elliot or lambchop, or have and liked it, drop me a line and I'll tape them or something... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kev at xxx.uk Mon Apr 24 14:55:27 2000 From: kev at xxx.uk (Kev) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 14:55:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: It's it the water y'see. Well, it's in mine... Message-ID: <00a001bfadf4$df59e820$6de993c3@oemcomputer> Hello Sinister, Well, I got mistaken for a lady again today in Safeway. It's happened a couple of times before. There was some nasty oik behind me in the queue who kept shouting questions at the cashier who was clearly pig sick of being stuck there rubbing tins of beans over the scanner the whole bank holiday. She gave them a lovely withering look and said "excuse me, I'll be with you in a moment once I've served this lady". I giggled and the oiks burst out laughing. I felt really bad for the cashier, she looked up at me with a mortified expression started apologising madly. I don't think I look much like a girl, not really - I mean my hair is really quite short, I don't wear makeup or anything. I know I've got great breasts but that's besides the point. Oh well. The other memorable occasion when that happened was a few years back when I was trying to buy a jumper from BHS. I signed the Switch slip and the old dear at the till checked my signature and the card and then looked up at me and said "I'm sorry love but I can't let you pay with this - it says *Mr* Bishop here"..... Oh well. Anyway, people keep asking whether they're the only person in the world who hasn't heard Legal Man, well, you're not because I haven't either. Mainly because I can't listen to the radio for more than five minutes before I break down in tears. Or start kicking things. I must admit to being quite fond of the Eurotrash theme though (although not Eurotrash itself, obviously) so I'm really quite looking forward to it. Apparently Belle and Sebastian are poised for world domination, which is just a bit surreal. All summer it'll be something like Mayfly pumping out of all the open topped cars stuck at the lights rather than like, whatever else they usually play. That'll be bonkers, but at least we'll all get to say "told you so". I'd love to see them on Top of the Pops, kicking the drumkit over, breaking amps and all that good stuff. That's it, I think. I'm off to work on a hangover for tomorrow morning. It's still only three so it should be a doozy. Kev (misquoted, misshapen) x ps. Rob - well done for bringing up the Elian thing. I'm sure you're speaking for a lot of us - I for one couldn't quite belive what I was seeing. How much sillier can it get? pps. My spell checker wants me to replace "Kev" with "Kiev". Hmm. Maybe I will. Maybe. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Mon Apr 24 15:20:46 2000 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (the angel blackwell) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:20:46 EDT Subject: Sinister: looking for a new family Message-ID: <20000424142046.84964.qmail@hotmail.com> ugh...holidays can rot. how do i know it's monday morning??? 1 had the oddest car ride with my mother 2 everything's a little foggy 3 seriously contemplated which cd to play first, super furries or macy gray....macy fuckin gray... i won't embarrass myself by telling you all who won... thank god someone offered to burn their nick drake collection for me, because apparently he's the polkaroo of the music world, "we had a copy but someone just bought it..." hmmm...big hugs if you remember who the polkaroo was, now he talks and everything now...next their gonna have big bird with 2 working arms... you all seemed to have loverly easters, and then came the capps' household. you know you don't visit enough when your sister comes in the door and you don't recognize her...thank god for wine and guiness and b&s when you're tipsy by 8 and really wanna go to bed but hafta watch a&e with your mother... guess i should work now, hope everyone is being nice to diana now that she's over there...oh, yeah, all you cute boys watch out... the fuzzy angel blackwell ps someone make them play b&s here in the silly city of toronto... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Mon Apr 24 15:45:21 2000 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:45:21 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Jeepstergate Message-ID: My toes can talk and they're smiling at me. Ive been away for the weekend up in aviemore and some bizarre goings on have been observed. Firstly one of the folk I was away with handed me a sunday newspaper cos it had a belle and sebby article in, Waterman was at it again as you all know, complaining about our beloved band, daring to call them cheesey. well I can exclusively reveal that his plan is even more daring than that, cos I saw him at the weekend, he was in a back alley in aviemore meeting with a man referred to only as Struan. The two were chuckling to themselves and saying things like 'there's no such thing as bad publicity' and 'the country will be split but at least every person will buy either steps or B&S' If this media manipulation is shocking you should have heard what came next, Waterman offered Struan a healthy dose of cash if he would pen Steps' next chartbuster. The fiends. anyway, needles to say a weekend of alcohol abuse has left me way behind on my work, another 5,000 words to write and then I've gotta go through and correct the whole 18,000 word dissertation, by Friday. oh bugger. of to do some work now love and easter eggs owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Mon Apr 24 18:40:25 2000 From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE HENRY DICKIE) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 17:40:25 GMT Subject: Sinister: BOXING MONOPOLY (THE BALLAD OF DON KING) Message-ID: <20000424174025.77497.qmail@hotmail.com> PIMP PORN SLIME JIGGLYPUFF IS THE REINCARNATION OF ELVIS MMMMM IF U SEE SADNESS TELL HER I'M NOT GOING TO MEET HER TOMORROW I'M GOING TO TAKE DISOBEDIENCE OUT FOR SOME ICE CREAM MMMMMM I HOPE I DON'T BUMP INTO TROUBLE ON THE WAY MMMMMM I WANT TO PLAY MONOPOLY BLINDFOLDED WITH A GIRL WHO LIKES TO PLAY IN THE DARK I WANT TO PLAY MONOPOLY IN A PADDLING POOL WITH A GIRL WHO DOESN'T MIND GETTING WET MMMMMMM MMM I WISH I COULD CHOKE TO DEATH ON MY OWN INADEQUACIES MMMMMMMAYBE IT IS JUST W A PHASE E GA GA D O HELLO PEOPLE OF THE LIST W H SO B&S *LEGAL MAN* A MMMMMM T YES IT IS LIKE EUROTRASH MMMMM W FOR SOME REASON E AT FIRST IT REMINDED ME OF GRANGE HILL D O MMMMMM *JUDY IS A DICK SLAP* B I'M SURE SOME OF U E HAVE SAID IT IS AN INSTRUMENTAL C A MMMMMM AND IT REMINDS ME OF U THAT BEAUTIFUL INSTRUMENTAL PIECE S THAT NIGEL TUFNEL E IS WORKING ON IN THE FILM I *THIS IS SPINAL TAP* T MMMMMMM HE CALLED HIS PIECE I S *LICK MY LOVE PUMP* W MMMMMMMMM MAYBE *JUDY IS A DICK SLAP* H IS A TRIBUTE TO A T IT W MMMMMMAYBE E D WHEN I WAS ON JEEPSTER O MERCHANDISE POSTER SHAG MMMMMM I SAW VELOCITY GIRL HIDING BEHIND THE TIGERMILK POSTER MMMMMM SHE WAS ASLEEP WITH A HALF EATEN HAM SANDWICH IN HER HAND MMM I THOUGH MAYBE SHE WAS AN ART EXHIBIT SO I DIDN'T WAKE HER I JUST LEFT HER BUT NOW THE JEEPSTER SHOP IS CLOSED MMMMMM I WONDER IF SHE IS TRAPPED IN THERE MMMMMMM I HAVE SEEN SHELBY LYNNE AND IDLEWILD SINCE THE LAST TIME I SPOKE MMMM HANK LOVED SHELBY COUNTRY/SOUL/ROCK 'N' ROLL IDLEWILD MMMMMM I LIKE TO PRACTICE MY TEEN BOP SKILLS I LIKE THE FEELING OF BEING SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE AND FEELING TOTALLY ALONE I HAD MY COUSIN PIP AND HIS FAMILY AROUND OVER EASTER HE SAID HE INSTALLED MORRISSEY A MARBLE FIRE PLACE IN HIS MANSION IN MANCHESTER I CAN'T TELL U EXACTLY WHERE MMMMM CONFIDENTIAL ETC I'VE ALREADY STARTED DREAMING THAT NEXT TIME HE IS WORKING FOR MOZ I'M GOING TO HELP OUT MMMM HE HAS A 3YEAR OLD DAUGHTER CALLED GEORGIA MMMMMMM THEY CALL HER MATILDA AS SHE LOOKS LIKE MATILDA IN THE FILM MATILDA MM GREAT FILM MMMMMM SOMEBODY WILL BREAK HER HEART ONE DAY MY BROTHER WHO WORKS AT QVC THE SHOPPING CHANNEL GOT ME A QVC RULER ONE THAT THEY USE ON DA SHOW IF U EVER WATCH QVC U WILL KNOW HOW FAMOUS THESE RULERS R MMMMM I CAN'T STOP MEASURING THINGS MMMMMMMM ANOTHER BROTHER OF MINE IS STARTING WORK AT QVC TOMORROW MMMMMM 2 BROTHER WORKING AT QVC MMMMM I HOPE I DON'T END UP AT QVC ********************************************************************** SCOTT HOWARD - AN EXPLANATION! JESUS CHRIST DAD AN EXPLANATION! LOOK AT ME LOOK AT YOU -TEENWOLF ********************************************************************** MMMM IN MY DARK LOW TIMES I THINK OF SHARING A PINK GRAPEFRUIT WITH CHARLOTTE CHURCH IT MAKES ME SMILE FOR A WHILE LOVE AND STICKY CHOCOLATE KISSES WOW GHD 2000 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Mon Apr 24 18:46:41 2000 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 18:46:41 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: The last of Italian super pop stars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am afraid that my perspective of Italian pop must be very different from all the Anglo-speaking listees, as Spain has always been sort of traditional playground for Italian celebrities.Cicciolina included, I guess...And the count Lecquio, but no news about his musical abilities. My ex housemate and friend ,Dutch-Brit herself, was in Milano with some friends in a bar about three years ago when started to talk with someone else in the group she had not met before.What it came later, it was a Notting Hill dinner party conversation of sorts, with her friends' consequent embarrasment: a)What do you do for a living? b)(quasi bald, shaved-head, dark, latin looking bloke)Errr, I am a teenage idol now and then... a)Ah. He was the so-called Eros Ramazotti, what does not say very much to anyone in the list, but it said to me when she told this story.From this, my deduction is that the god-named balladist has not had any hit around here and does not really qualify in this particular test. What about Zucchero Fornacciari (not sure about the spelling)? He used to sing with chum Paul Young very sugary, deep-voiced love choruses. Going back in time, Umberto Tozzi in the late 70's had a huge success in the continent with 'Gloria', which pumped-up keyboards keep a mysterious resemblance pointed out in Spanish musical press with 'Disco 2000' tune. Maybe he made it in Sheffield, who knows. Why was I in France,neutral Republique,while Madrid slaughtered ruthlessly those spoilt kids in ManUni? Neutrality is not fun. A. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hoveringsoul at xxx.com Mon Apr 24 19:47:22 2000 From: hoveringsoul at xxx.com (Hoveringsoul) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:47:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: an introduction to me Message-ID: <20000424184722.76370.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello everybody, I'm new. On behalf of all of you I'd like to welcome myself to the Sinister List. This feels like it should be an acceptance speech for my voice, kindly granted by the sweet sweet Honey, but instead a miniature introduction to me is on offer. I won't be offended if you skip it. Promise. I live in Dublin. I'm 19, male and a student. I love lots of things but can never seem to settle on one in particular. I love sport and music and art and drama and science and books and writing and friends and I'm never sure what to do next. If I could I'd spend my life in college, doing different courses every year in everything from art to sports science to theology and philosophy to drama and classical history to theoretical physics. It's a combination of my insatiable curiosity, my habit of being easily distracted by information of any kind and my dread of real, responsible work. My favourite quotes: "If it's for you it won't go by you" - My Friend. "Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes. If you still don't like him, you're a mile away and you have his shoes." - Unknown; claimed by my Friend. "Take the chance to commit all and fail, Else at Death's knell chances miss'd prevail" - A poet I've forgotten. A good philosophy, in my opinion. "What, Hippy?" - Rik from "The Young Ones". That is me - that is all ye know and all ye need to know. That second bit is a quote from someone too, but I can't remember who. You'll learn more about me as time goes on, or if you ever ask I'll tell you. *****If you were skipping, I've finished now!***** On the subject of Waterman et al, I've been thinking, as usual. He seems bitter that B&S beat steps in the Brits, and has obviously been upset by the idea that it was an orchestrated mass-vote, and says that B&S are "cheesy". By "cheesy" I'm sure he means that they are a band who produce mindless formulaic music with no feeling and no soul, music that easily dupes the public into buying the records and becoming fans of the band, resulting in success without any real show of talent, ingenuity, or of actual artistic merit. Firstly, B&S are allowed manufacture a vote or several if they want to, seeing as he has manufactured the entire (alleged) band that is Steps, and many more besides, and gotten away without the flogging he deserves for it. Secondly, if the definition of cheesiness that I just made up above holds true, then Steps are the latest band to come from the Waterman stable to be made of solid cheese, and to produce music that stinks accordingly. One more thought: Did you ever notice that when you learn a new word, it seems as if everyone else in the world has it in their everyday vocabulary? The same applies to bands, sometimes. I converted a friend to B&S. He gave a tape of them to his friend, who gave him in return a tape of Nick Drake. It was their first contact with B&S and my first contact with Nick Drake. Since then ND has been mentioned in countless articles and snippets of articles I have read, either as a fantastic artist in his own right or as an obvious comparison with B&S. Now I wonder how I never heard of him before I did. More recently, I read a review of The Delgadoes new album. They got an excellent review but I'd never heard of them. Since then I've heard more and more and more about them from every source available and it seems half of sinister has already bought the album. I can only berate myself for my tardiness in learning these new and wonderful words. Apologies for boring those of you who made it this far to tears. I promise to be more to the point in future, or else I'll cut out the vowels. Goodbye everybody, I'm not new anymore. HS Hovering over "send"..... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Mon Apr 24 20:48:19 2000 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:48:19 GMT Subject: Sinister: I wrote this song 2 hours before we met...... Message-ID: <20000424194819.37522.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello all. This is list abuse at it's very finest, I'm afraid. That's not supposed to sound like a boast, it's supposed to sound like an apology. And now I must apologise for *two* things: the list abuse and the seemingly boastful behavior... D'oh. Anyway, having realised that I only open my mouth to change feet, I will mention that Alexander Bartilson made some rather interesting comments on "what if" etc. Just to augment his thoughts, I thought I would give some musical perspective to the whole issue. There is a song written about exactly this topic. It's "Something Changed" from the MIGHTY MIGHTY Pulp. It's a phab song, with phab lyrics and tune and arrangement and everything, and when it's played live, the MIGHTY MIGHTY Jarv plays a really ornately decorated 12-string, which *I* find exciting at least. There may be other songs specifically about Alexander's point, but that was the first that sprung to mind. That's all really. Pretty inconsequential I know, but perhaps helpful to all of us out there who like to take their philosophy in 4 minute chunks. Okay then, bye. love, Sam.x P.S. I got a list crush vote! How exciting is that! Again, this is not written in boast, but in bewilderment. I've never had anybody make totally unprompted advances toward me before, and I'm very happy indeed. I'd love to know who it is though - go on, reveal yourself (please).... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From adam_dbt at xxx.com Mon Apr 24 21:47:45 2000 From: adam_dbt at xxx.com (adam d,) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 13:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: shipwrecked souls and other cliches Message-ID: <20000424204745.9077.qmail@web1609.mail.yahoo.com> hello all! how are you? i'm going to be seeing the flaming lips and looper tomm. and i'm very excited. i'm sure no one else here is going to be going (tues.) since it is a show in the middle of nowhere, Illinois. i wonder why they chose to play in dekalb? oh well, i don't care. anyway, before i get to b+s content a word on the Elian debate. if you don't want to read it skip to the next: **************************************** I can not in any terms agree with what has been said on this list. so the boy is found in the middle of the sea and then taken to relatives in miami. then, the father says "hey! my boy is alive! hooray! may i come get him?" to which the united states (particularly the relatives in miami) say "HELL NO!" taken from a parent's standpoint (which i'm not, but can make a fair guess) i would be outraged. when the u.s. finally came to their senses and realised that the boy should be with his father even though he is *GASP!* a communist, the relatives wouldn't give him up, claiming they knew what was best for the boy. after giving the relatives many deadlines, which they ignored, the government said, "well, we'll come get him, then" and they did. NO ONE GOT HURT AT ALL. later in the day Elian was seen with his father and his 6 month baby brother and all were smiling and happy. the end. for once, i'm somewhat happy with my government. sorry. had to say that. i suppose now i have officially thrown my hat into the political arena. ***************************** B + S CONTENT i heard legal man. on the radio. not really the radio, but the internet radio. it sounded crap. not the song. the reception. i loved what i heard of the song. i mean, REALLY loved, but i couldn't make it out very clearly. on amazon.com it says that matador is releasing the single on MAY 16. does this mean, for once in my 19 years of life, i am going to get a release before anyone in the UK? i hope so. anyway, theres also been talk of sinister dykes here. where are the sinister gay boys? we need to start a movement too. but i'm probably the only one. i'll just stick with the dykes like i always do, then. oh! one last thing. lambchops' new album is wonderful! i could listen to it all day. in fact, i am. here with no fear in wisconSIN (cause you can't spell wisconsin without SIN), adam d. ps. i absolutely love all of JENOWL's posts. pps to the other adam: sorry i never wrote you back about the beach boys thing. i have been BUSY. very. but anyway, my best friend also hates the beach boys for no reason. I asked him if he's ever heard any of the songs off of pet sounds before and he said no. he refuses to listen to it. grrrrrr..... very agravating. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilska at xxx.net Mon Apr 24 21:27:53 2000 From: wilska at xxx.net (Emily Wilska) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 13:27:53 -0700 Subject: Sinister: I saw your arms in a dream Message-ID: <15AAE0EBDCC9D1119FFA00805F85642E04FBCC22@WNI-MSG-02> Allo, allo. While I am generally content to sit back and just read the words that flow from your fingers into my Inbox, sometimes--just sometimes--I am inspired to write. This, alas, is one of those times. A long, long way back, in the midst of the fascinating What Has Italy Ever Done For Us debate, Daniel Hopper wrote this: And what about Frank Stallone with "Eye of the Tiger"? Ah, Daniel. "Eye of the Tiger" was the masterwork of Survivor, not Frank Stallone. The Lesser-Known Stallone was responsible for another classic hit, "Far From Over," that graced one of the innumerable Rocky soundtracks. I am really, really sorry I know such things. They take up space in my head that could otherwise be devoted to, say, remembering how to multiply numbers greater than 4 and 6, or learning the names of world leaders. Nick Dastoor sent along an article about the autobiography of Consuelo de Saint-Exupery, including these lines: They eventually separated but met again in Pau, southern France, during the war, about a year before his death. "I wanted to kiss him, to take him in my arms," say the memoirs. "He closed his eyes and murmured 'I would so much like to sleep'." For some reason, these seem like the most beautiful words I have ever read. I cannot get them out of my head. Fed up with my job, fed up with dealing with adult-y things like getting my car fixed, fed up with a boy I went out with a few times (and, from all signs, seemed to hit it off with) suddenly and inexplicably excommunicating me, I am left with the desire to lie in the grass in my parents' backyard with the smells of growing things in my nose and Belle & Sebastian in my ears and a Sylvia Plath's journals in my hands and pretend, for a while, that there is nothing else. Nothing else. Instead, 3000 miles from said backyard, and obliged to at least attempt to do some work today, I am left to watch from my window as San Francisco runs about below me, to remember that all things sucky will eventually pass, and, alas, to attempt to supplant "Eye of the Tiger" in my head with something a bit less earworm-like. Back into silence. xo emily +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dee at xxx.ie Tue Apr 25 00:13:01 2000 From: dee at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 00:13:01 +0100 (IST) Subject: Sinister: he's suing me ? Message-ID: hello list, I am being sued., for slander and defamation of character etc. Its very upsetting. My hands are shaking ALOT. You know when you do stupid meaningless things which you think to yourself afterwards, ah well its not as if it is going to taint me for ever afterwards? well thats kind of whats happening except for the its not going to taint me bit becuase I am due a solicitors letter in tomorrows post. So, if anyone has legal background please please mail me privately because I can't really use this as a venting ground any more. I'd be slightly excited by it if I didn't have woeful anxiety pains. Caroline I will explain tomorrow if you are around. Tomorrow I am meeting with my alibi and we are getting our story strtiaght. I would like to implicate a girl who I hate but I know it will backfire. If I was more political I could and emerge smelling of roses. Unfortunately I think I am in for alot of character assassination and fucked up exams. Actually I'll probably not have to bother sitting my exams as my MAsters will probably just be taken off me. I used to think crying over boys was enough to feel depressed about. But its not. I don't want to go to court. Please don't make me. A source told me it probably wo 'nt get to court that it will be an in camera or something hearing. i think that means no one but me and the other offenders are locked up in a room where severe questions will be directed our way. My parents are going to hit the roof. boo hoo hoo. ________________________________________ Disclaimer : the information which is obtained through a quiet perusal of these emails should be absorbed by osmosis. Allow one to two years for the genius of each and every intentional spelling mistake and grammtical error to sink in for maximum effect. Recognising that Denise sometimes embellishes stories and leans towards outright lies is important for your own acumen of the holistic elements of the emails. Should your knee get itchy whilst you read emails from Denise, she is completely unresponsible unless of course, she happens to be tickling your knee. Then it is right and proper to stick something smaller than your elbow into her ear with the sole purpose to hurt her. That'll teach her. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stray4f at xxx.net Tue Apr 25 00:59:49 2000 From: stray4f at xxx.net (===) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 16:59:49 -0700 Subject: Sinister: he's suing me ? Message-ID: <200004242359.TAA156776@pimout8-int.prodigy.net> A good legal strategy would be to seek counsel from a random internet mailing list, and write to it's thousand members that you are guilty and are plotting to obstruct justice by crafting an alibi. Oh, wait, I mean the WORST legal strategy, sorry for the confusion. Just because there is a new single titled "Legal Man" doesn't make this an appropriate forum, dear. ---------- >From: Denise Power >To: twee*muskateers >Subject: Sinister: he's suing me ? >Date: Mon, Apr 24, 2000, 4:13 PM > > > hello list, I am being sued., for slander and defamation of character > etc. Its very upsetting. > My hands are shaking ALOT. > You know when you do stupid meaningless things which you think to yourself > afterwards, ah well its not as if it is going to taint me for ever > afterwards? > well thats kind of whats happening except for the its not going to taint > me bit becuase I am due a solicitors letter in tomorrows post. > So, if anyone has legal background please please mail me privately because > I can't really use this as a venting ground any more. > I'd be slightly excited by it if I didn't have woeful anxiety pains. > Caroline I will explain tomorrow if you are around. > Tomorrow I am meeting with my alibi and we are getting our story > strtiaght. > I would like to implicate a girl who I hate but I know it will > backfire. If I was more political I could and emerge smelling of > roses. Unfortunately I think I am in for alot of character assassination > and fucked up exams. Actually I'll probably not have to bother sitting my > exams as my MAsters will probably just be taken off me. > I used to think crying over boys was enough to feel depressed about. But > its not. I don't want to go to court. > Please don't make me. > A source told me it probably wo 'nt get to court that it will be an in > camera or something hearing. i think that means no one but me and the > other offenders are locked up in a room where severe questions will be > directed our way. > My parents are going to hit the roof. > > > boo hoo hoo. > > > ________________________________________ > Disclaimer : the information which is obtained through a quiet perusal of > these emails should be absorbed by osmosis. Allow one to two > years for the genius of each and every intentional spelling mistake and > grammtical error to sink in for maximum effect. Recognising that Denise > sometimes embellishes stories and leans towards outright lies is important > for your own acumen of the holistic elements of the emails. Should your > knee get itchy whilst you read emails from Denise, she is completely > unresponsible unless of course, she happens to be tickling your knee. Then > it is right and proper to stick something smaller than your elbow into her > ear with the sole purpose to hurt her. That'll teach her. > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From xstensionchord at xxx.net Tue Apr 25 01:56:31 2000 From: xstensionchord at xxx.net (Chad Curtis) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 20:56:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Charlotte Church ROXX In-Reply-To: owner-sinister-digest@missprint.org (sinister-digest)'s message of Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:47:50 +0100 (GMT/BST) Message-ID: <23414-3904ED3F-13014@storefull-622.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Starting with B&S 's popularity. It's official and factual, they have been as widely distributed as Coca-Cola, for a bit now. Whether this is good or bad I dunno. On music-zines and such. If I want to hear a music-snob's opinions on trends and quality, I would talk to a a friend. Maybe I haven't been shown what a healthy music-zine should be like, but most are rubbish and for luxury only. Bitter or bored, sorry if I offended any music-zine people. I guess I miss publishings that explore sound and not fashions. {}{}{{}{}{}{{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{] Well, here are some flippering replies..... Lawrence once upon a time said... <<>>>>>.. I couldn't agree more. 'Her Wallpaper Reverie' by The Apples in Stereo is another shortie but goodie. It is more debatable, but I thought it all fit together nicely. It didn't seem to me a cheat at all. I also like 'Up a tree' for it's take on a simple song and stretching it. The whole album melts into one musical line. Themes are fun to play with. ** A fellow, who I'd like to meet someday, cause I can't get enough of his posts, George Henry Dickie wrote <<<<<>>>>>> Charlotte Church makes me giggle like a school girl and leap for joy. I don't care what people say, she's the cutest of the cutest. I wish she were my sis. ------------------------------------------------- Lastly, I would like to thank Julie for the fables she posts, which I do enjoy reading bunches. œœChad Lliam Curtis +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sebastian at xxx.com Tue Apr 25 02:39:36 2000 From: sebastian at xxx.com (pedro simões) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 18:39:36 -0700 Subject: Sinister: well... Message-ID: <200004250139.SAA09621@mail15.bigmailbox.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From kakookie at xxx.com Tue Apr 25 04:32:00 2000 From: kakookie at xxx.com (James Morris) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 03:32:00 GMT Subject: Sinister: sinister:slurpee calling Message-ID: <20000425033200.36555.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey Everybody, So i've been loosed from the nursery, perhaps prematurely. I've been gobbling up list content between fits of tedium, smiled at the fox parables, the diamonds through honey, the high fidelity discussions, that sort of thing. And though i'm completely overwhelmed by the volume of emails, still i'm happy to get them. And now i inflict one on you, though it may be that i don't yet have much to say. Perhaps you have finals too and don't have time for introductions. If that's the case then I say hello, get along with your work now. otherwise... This is my introduction. My name is james and i'm a boy in boston. I used to watch Belle and Sebastian on Nickelodeon, before Alanis Morisette was on "You Can't Do That on Television" and Dave Coulier was down the hall taping "Out of Control". Before any unsavory business in theaters. I didn't like the show, it was in that group with "The Little Prince", "Spartacus", and "The Seven Cities of Gold". I don't remember particularly enjoying any of them. But I watched. Maybe it was the sound of it. I think that's what it was later on when I heard the name of the band. Belle and Sebastian. Even if you don't enunciate the letters the words just feel nice in your mouth. It's soft to say and rolls the air and squishes against your teeth. It's round and open and some of it spills out your nose. It's fun to say it. Sloan was like that too. I just liked the word. The big white dog was always snuggly, Sebastain would lie against her at night on the mountainsides under the stars. The grass was very green, the dog was white, there were some ruins near by. That's what I remember from the show. I suppose I remember it fondly, even if I didn't like it at the time. Or maybe i did, but didn't want to be thought of as the sort of kid who liked "Belle and Sebastian"... that stuff's for wusses. I used to like the sound of the word dildo too. I didn't know it was a real word, i just thought they were two very funny syllables that sounded funny together. I used to run around calling people dildoes. I'd get in trouble, but no one ever told me why, teachers never seemed particularly enthused about defining that word. I still the the word dildo is funny, as much as i did when Belle and Sebastian used to be on. I don't remember what happened to sebastian. I remember some trouble with the police. I remember him running for the border, for the pyranese, and a girl in a yellow dress trying to help him across. I remember seeing Looper last week with the flaming lips. Stuart and Karn were very cute. Somebody I know has a lot of CDs, a lot more than me anyway, one of them was If You're Feeling Sinister. Belle and Sebastian, I remember that show. I remember the dog and the grass and the starlight. Mountains and a yellow dress. I remember a review I read in the school paper. Play Belle and Sebastian for me. So that's how i met Belle and Sebastian. And I guess I've known them for awhile but I like their present iteration best. I don't mind being the kind of kid who likes Belle and Sebastian, not anymore. And now I've met you... well no, not at all really. But online you can get away with a bit more make-believe than usual. So hi everyone, what's up? I'm James, nice to meet you. I can't wait for the new single and the new album. I have every confidence that they will verily rock. I'm sorry if this hasn't been a terribly lucid addition to the list, but I've got several papers and two final projects due tomorrow, well one of them was due last week but that's neither here nor there, so i'm not thinking clearly at the moment. I think i'll go get a slurpee. yum. ...and then a cactapus came along and ate them all up! James. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Tigerxdare at xxx.com Tue Apr 25 04:39:39 2000 From: Tigerxdare at xxx.com (Tigerxdare at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 23:39:39 EDT Subject: Sinister: sunny days, oh where have you gone? Message-ID: hello everyone, it has been awhile since my last post. i have been working all the time. it is not fun. i want to go back to college. soon. very soon. i recently saw looper and it was incredible. they are soooo good live, and they are funny and adorable and oh so charming. i got great pics. i met walkn steve there too. he is awesome. i wish we could have hung out more though. well maybe next time steve. i just found out today that not only to i get to see travis may 10th in philly, but i also get to see them on wednesday in philly, and for free!!! i love them so much. how could it be that hardly anyone knows who they are? hey are they really as big in the u.k as i hear? i mean they cant be *huge* can they? they are definetely my favorite band next to b&s, but i dont see how they can be that big, when noone in america really knows who they are.. do any of you scottish or english kids know about cheap ways to stay in the uk? i am trying to plan a trip there for this summer, and i really want to go so desperately. the problem is, i dont know where to begin. i dont know whether i should look for one of those tour things, or just plan it all on my own or what. if any of you could email me to my personal email address with any info you might have, it would be greatly appreciated. and lastly, where is joss? is he still on sinister? i miss his emails, and he seems to have disappeared. joss please email me! ok..bye everyone. hugs and kisses, lauren* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.alder at xxx.uk Tue Apr 25 12:06:50 2000 From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 12:06:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Never ending or beginning in and ever-spinning reel Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F33532F5@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk> Ow, my neck hurts. Why? It's the waltzers. They're the most evilist of things ever invented. You see them whizzing and spinning and they look such fun, so you climb aboard but they're too low and your head gets fair ripped off your shoulders by the gyroscopic business of it all (or something). You scream "NO! DON'T SPIN ME ANY MORE PLEEEEEEEEEEASE!" but the dirty-nailed waltzer boy thinks you're playing the helpless maiden and having a bit of a flirt, so he gives you a cheeky grin and spins you faster to, like, flirt back a bit and the next day you feel like you should be mooching around the bell tower of Notre Dame. I'm thinking of writing to Watchdog to complain. Give Alice Beer something to get her teeth into. Beer's not a very classy surname is it? If I was her, I'd change it to something better like Black Wych Stout. Alice Black Wych. That's got a nice ring to it. My friend knows a Cockburn, as in the port, not the painful sensation. Talking of ridiculous names, right out of the blue, up pops Mr Spanners from the land of lurkerdom: >>HELLO LUCY ALDER - MY BUNS ARE CLENCHED FOR YOU... Ooh, luvverly - I've only sampled the hot cross variety of late. Pete Waterman is obviously after any publicity he can get for Steps, even though the Brits story is Last Year's News. Before this long, drawn out saga goes any further, perhaps the best way to settle the matter would be to have an afternoon of Steps/B&S TAG TEAM WRESTLING. Steps enter the ring first, in matching blue PVC capes. H looks particularly fetching in his tight little shorts and war paint. Now, into the ring come our heroes, in towelling dressing gowns, bunny slippers and Stu is even carrying his blankie. Round one, ding ding! What's this? Isobel leaps over the ropes, takes out the cello she's been hiding under the voluminous folds of her dressing gown, swings it round her head a couple of times, then hurls it across the ring towards the opposition, knocking out each and every one of them out and leaving Lisa with severe brain damage. No, my mistake, she was brain dead already. So, that puts a lid on the matter and Pete Waterman can SHUT UP, RIGHT? Right. Juicy Lucy -- This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From glen.mitchell at xxx.com Tue Apr 25 13:50:45 2000 From: glen.mitchell at xxx.com (Glen) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 13:50:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the first post Message-ID: <004701bfaeb5$7857d940$d6a7073e@oemcomputer> Hello Sinister As you've probably guessed if you looked at the subject, this is my first post. My name's Glen and I live in Bangor, Northern Ireland. I'm 15 and the only B&S person I know. When I was in the nursery I always wondered what I would post to the list. Now I'm out I don't know what to say. We had a beautiful bonfire on the beach last night, t'was grate fun. I sat there most of the time romantiscising about a girl who I don't know yet. She came up and sat beside me and hugged me. Then I took a reality check. It'll never happen that way. aah well TBWTAS calls... See y'all soon Glen (give me a reason to smile) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From EliotNew at xxx.com Tue Apr 25 16:42:58 2000 From: EliotNew at xxx.com (EliotNew at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:42:58 EDT Subject: Sinister: Two Or Three Things I Know About The New Album Message-ID: Having sat with ears wide shut to everything except 'Fold Your Hands Child..." over the last several days (well, and Nico's 'These Days') I thought I would leave a few brief notes on the songs for those who have not heard the album yet. Mind, this is not a list of my most complicated thoughts, just a few remarks to provide a feel for the songs. I Fought In A War- The loneliness of the long distance soldier. The band heads to the battlefield on the opening mini-epic and is very successful. Solemn and effectively folky, doesn't not remind me of Phil Ochs. Contains the beautiful image "I bet you're making shells back home/ For a steady boy to wear/ Around his neck well it won't hurt to think of you/ As if you're waiting for this letter to arrive/ Because I'll be here quite a while." The Model- The familiar piano rollick of Charlie Brown winds through this tune, which could have appeared comfortably on any of B&S's records so far. Stevie's vocals appear here for the first of many times on the album. More lyrics to sing along with: "Dream of all the bully kids that hang around you/ I'm no different from the rest/ I'm not too proud to say that I'm o.k./ With the girl next door who's famous/ For showing her chest." Or is it Bowlie kids? Beyond The Sunrise- Campfire song sees Lou Reed singing from the sagebrush. Singer I do not know does a slight Crash Test Dummies imitation in the cadence of Johnny Cash. Spare instrumentals emphasizing audible acoustic chord changes. Isobel's slight vocals duet. Stuart's voice is only a ghostly "oh-oh" from ten rows back. D-e-l-i-c-a-t-e. Waiting For The Moon To Rise- Isobel's second consecutive song about celestial risings. This one more successful. Her singing here is different than usual in a good way. For some reason I see playing this while squinting into a late evening summer sun while driving along the ocean into Santa Barbara. Will anyone know what I mean? Marianne Faithfull's 'Come And Stay With Me' brought to mind. Don't Leave The Light On Baby- Somehow will be sampled by The Beastie Boys for an album intro or outro. Leisurely paced tune about a weary day/ life. "His ship came in/ I'm standing on the harbor wall" captures it well, I think. Everyone sings. The Wrong Girl- Same as all the live versions, fleshed out. The Chalet Lines- Stark, serious and excellent. A miniature knockout. A gorgeous tune about a dark day. Stuart demonstrates to the World Of Rock that 'fuck' can be sung appropriately and not just for a sloppy attempt at toughening up a weak tune, as boring musicians seem to do. For example, see anything by Limp Bizkit. Or Arab Strap. Nice Day For A Sulk- *sigh*. A real friend. More upbeat than the title might imply, this soundtrack for a summer evening is a favorite. Complicating my mix tape/ live request list. Belle And Sebastian at their finest. Women's Realm- Another tune for dancing like the Peanuts gang. Piano. Handclaps. It all. Stuart duets with Isobel. "But I dream as I set to scrub/ All the floors and walls I'm thinking of/ A song or two/ A boy a girl/ And a rendezvous". Stuart moves on to sing over his own chorus which should twist into a curious yodel if attempted live. Family Tree How many times will this be called 'Family Twee'? Isobel spends a rainy day in a library musing on her family geneolgy. Some of Isobels best lyrics, if she wrote this. There's Too Much Love Rousing Stuart album-ending opus we've come to know and love. Quite fitting. At the end, vocally and lyrically alone. "And when I come to blows/ When I am numbering my foes/ Just hope that you are on my side my dear". Bows gracefully with a lilting outro suitable for dancing. I haven't really given it a chance as an entire album as it still takes several repeats to make it past 'Sulk' and 'Chalet Lines'. Belle and Sebastian for me is at their best with Stuart up front so I wouldn't have minded 'Lord Anthony' or '...Middle Distance Runner' substituted for some of Isobel's songs. She's got Gentle Waves for this! Perhaps STUART should start a solo, side project. In a high compliment, the world of B&S is reminding me more and more of the Peanuts gang with sex lives. And does anybody feel the same way I do? Eliot +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 9905418B at xxx.uk Tue Apr 25 14:41:25 2000 From: 9905418B at xxx.uk (Roderick Brannan) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:41:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I've almost forgotten how to do this Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 2475 bytes Desc: not available URL: From paularathoon at xxx.com Tue Apr 25 17:35:58 2000 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:35:58 BST Subject: Sinister: pete waterman- the well known arse Message-ID: <20000425163558.81492.qmail@hotmail.com> I think that Mr Waterman is just miffed because: The Stock/Aitkin/Waterman triple axis collapsed in around 1990. His plan was to produce anodyne pop well into the 21st century. However, he was unable to complete this desire as his henchmen, messers S and A , took up goat farming in the pyrennes, their minds eternally warped by Kylie Minougue and Jason Donavan's posturing and their eyes blinded by a thousand teenage pop star's smiles.He stumbled on as a car insurance salesman occasionally supplementing his income with royalties from various albums which were purchased form Woolies bargain bin. Anyway, in the mid 1990's Waterman stumbled upon a magic formula which resurrected his muzak career by producing anodyne, lifeless, pre-coreographed popstars. he found it by making love to Celine Dion on a stormy, full mooned night. hence Steps In bonny Scotland, a young chap in a duo (called sell and belastian) heard of these wicked miscreants and so set up an elaborate vote rigging system that cost the GDP of a small third world nation. Stuart M, for that is our hero's name, afforded this with the royalties from a recored called Tigermilk. there were actually 100,000 copies printed. He didn't tell anyone and then hyped the price so they cost �600 a go. He had all the copies apart from 1000. Do the sums.... I digress... This internet vote rigging system, later sold to T.Blair for a knoghthood, allowed Sell and Belastian to win the brit and thus Steps were foiled in their attempt to earn Waterman lots of money he doesn't really deserve. That's why he hates them and is a curmudgeonly old git. Anyway resemblance to real life in the above is un-bloody likely. I am off to do Jackanory. Paul ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From duke at xxx.uk Tue Apr 25 17:46:47 2000 From: duke at xxx.uk (duke of harringay) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:46:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Two Or Three Things I Know About The New Album In-Reply-To: Message-ID: is it just me, or did anyone else find this blow by blow account of the new album to be a real downer? could we maybe instigate some kind of 'spoiler' system here so that all those folks who really would much rather wait with baited breath for the album release proper to discover what all the songs are like, erm, can? (that sentence was not a good sentence...) Maybe anyone who wants to witter about the album before it gets released can post a subject line of 'i'm a lucky/spoilt (friend of a)journalist/record industry bod and i have the new record already nah nah and you don't, aren't i a lucky/spoilt (friend of a)journalist/record industry bod?' Or perhaps just 'show-off twat' for short. Maybe. if you think you're lucky enough to hear records before they get released, you don't have to make a deal about it. Not to 'real' fans anyway (and before you ask, no, i don't consider myself in the slightest way real these days). and hey! wasn't it the Delta 5 who sang 'anticipation is so much better'? which shows my age... Sorry my first post to the list in years is so negative. i just feel annoyed by this... the duke. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Tue Apr 25 18:32:22 2000 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:32:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The duke speaks Message-ID: <802568CC.0061133B.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Err yes, not to get at anyone, and maybe it's inevitable with 1200 unruly kids, but I think it's no fun people spilling the beans either. People managed to keep relatively quiet when the last album was released in 1892, and in my view it would be nice if this happened again. I don't know why, but it's better if people are allowed to participate in some kind of shared experience when the album comes out. If people with advance copies go on about it too much then everyone else feels like it's old news when they finally get a chance to post about it. For some reason the idea of putting "WARNING - SPOILER" in the subject line doesn't appeal either. All this becomes rather difficult when the radio starts playing tracks, of course. Perhaps honey would like to rool on this. Or drool, if he'd prefer. Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NALeigh82 at xxx.com Tue Apr 25 19:03:38 2000 From: NALeigh82 at xxx.com (NALeigh82 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:03:38 EDT Subject: Sinister: Trust me, i'm a stomach Message-ID: i'm sorry if anyone has mentioned this already but I was on the nme website today and I stumbled across this piece of news "BELLE & SEBASTIAN are holding a question and answer evening for fans - and a few selected members of the media, like nme.com - at a secret London location on May 3. The evening will be split into two parts, questions and answers first, followed by a party, where band members Richard Colburn and Chris Geddes will DJ. As well as Chris and Richard, all other band members - namely Stuart Murdoch, Stevie Jackson, Isobel Campbell, Mick Cooke and Sarah Martin - will be there to meet and greet their adoring public. There'll also be a chance to hear the band's new single 'Legal Man', out May 22, and their forthcoming album 'Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like A Peasant', out June 5, both through Jeepster. For a chance to win tickets to this exclusive event, listen to Radio One Steve Lamacq Evening Session on April 27 between 8-10pm." "few selected members of the media"??????? You bastards. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather-boa at xxx.com Tue Apr 25 21:41:00 2000 From: feather-boa at xxx.com (feather boa) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 13:41:00 -0700 Subject: Sinister: is it wicked to like steps? Message-ID: only i do. what i think should happen is that h (it stands for hyperactive) should kidnap waterman and lock him in an attic and then they can get on with the music they always wanted to make. because (obviously) faye plays the cello and claire plays the bass, lisa plays the flute and sings sometimes. lee writes some of the words and sings, h plays the guitar and wears tight t shirts. but faye has a solo project called cellar, so she leaves the band. then everyone says they've sold in. instead of sold out. pip pip, FB X *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dee at xxx.ie Tue Apr 25 22:04:31 2000 From: dee at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:04:31 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: the eloquent tongue of miss denise power. Message-ID: hi list. I'm in the clear! Hurray. And now I have a sinister story to tell you. What is extra strange is that I went to the library today to get away from the messy intrigue of my life and wouldn't you know, part of my course is on conspiracies. Which is of course the most sinister of all things corrupt becuase as my extensive 4 hour research today proves, the government is hugely complicity in every plot to overthrow the state. But no time for that, heres the story. Its a bit tough going at times, but bear with it - it is a harsh lesson in the school of life. There is a porter system in my college known as Services. They are a glorified police force/KGB. Some of them even have blue blue eyes and blonde hair. When I graduated last year, I realised I needed some type of job to keep me going. I decided to join services. I loved it at first because it was a very cushy job but then for reasons out of my control, i was transferred centres. Then I was moved to a place where bitchiness and back stabbing was plentiful. There was one man there who was very interested in the fact that I worked for the paper. A little too interested some might say. A couple of weeks past and I came to realise that actually these people weren't very nice. I was quite unhappy in work without really being able to pinpoint why. The head of services at the time hated my guts, which was part of it but I just felt uneasy whenever I went in. Suddenly I started accidently missing shifts, as in I'd be pencilled in on Mondays for Monday nights and then get in trouble for not showing. For being told to go on extra lunch and then getting in shit for taking too long. then I did a terrible thing. I was working one night and i had a boy in the office. i know it was wrong because i got caught. After this, i was forced to attend a meeting where I was severely reprimanded. I was forced to go on training as my probation period which , if I failed, I was out. I knew fucking everything for the assessment and really pulled my socks up and made the head of services love my little twinkle toes yet managed to fail assessment. How odd, i thought. So I resat it. this time, although the questions were ridiculously hard again., i felt i had done pretty well. But no, strangely I failed again. Now all this time, certain people , such as the boy who was very interested in the fact that I worked for the paper were making my life hell. I belived in conspiracy theories even though you have this safety latch inherent in you which reassures you that you are just being paranoid. I also had my friends in work (one person) telling me not to be silly although they did acknowledge that I wasn't having an easy time of it. i got really annoyed and upset when i failed the second time, becauseI felt like the scapegoat in an interdepartment struggle. I also felt like I was being made an example of , ie the girl who failed assessment ten times before passing, so future generations would have that as a case study. Well no thank you, while posterity will benefit greatly from my biography i don't want to be remembered in that way. So i quit. the head of services who now thought I was great was devasted and asked me to come back in the summer. i said I'd think about it. I was so happy to leave and my friend organised a big party and loads of people came to it. At this party, the boy who took a huge interest in my extracurricular activites kissed me on the cheek and was real nicey nicey to meand told me that when I got caught with the boy in the office it was cause John , a boy I worked with, told. Now, I think the boy with the uncanny interest in me, who we'll call MOG from now on, is a dangerous person. Hes a total bitch and very clever and easily has the ability to backstab anyone. Actually I'm kind of afraid of him. So obviously I'm keeping him at arms length , laughing and joking with him because there is no way I'm going to cross this boy. Cut to yesterday. My friend in work rings me distraught saying how John (mentioned above) is suing MOG for divulging confidential information to me and twisting it (defamation of character.) the truth was while john did tell, he was put under pressure by MOG and the other Managers who had seen me already. Now I knew MOG had it in for me on account of a couple of other incidents and a couple of roster switching occasions and just his general bitchiness. So when he told me john told, I took it with a grain of salt, having intially suspected John but written it off as paranoia and also bad judgement because John is a decent guy. Myself and my friend were implicated in a separate matter which involved the same people but also the girl I hate. Now I can't go into it, but she tried to save herself thus implicating me and my friend unjustly so while we played a minor role in the defamation of charac ter of John, it was miscontrued and also not meant in any form of malicious intent. Shes the one I wanted to implicate but only beacuse I knew she was behind it and cos I hateher, even though thats not a good reason. But today me and my friend went and sorted it out with John and really even if we were still involved (which we're not) its obvious nothing malicious was done. But ... john told me off the record that MOg had a vendetta against me since day one. Beacuse of the involvement with the paper. It was him who made the head of services hate me at the start, he spread vicious completely untrue rumours,. changed the roster so I looked unreliable and proof of that is that the same thing happened John who he also had it in for for different reasons. He'd do stuff like allow me to make mistakes , then write up a report on it and he fiddled with my files and my wages and brought my conduct up at every meeting. The worst thing is I believed in a conspiracy theory and felt like I was cracking up for doing so. I don't mean to sound overdramatic but it was actually true all along. the worst thing is that evil people like him get away with that sort of bullying with no repercussions ever. He decided to get rid of me and did - it took him 6 months but he still succeeded. He decided to get rid of John and did after a year. (he has more strength of cahracter and i am very vunerable politically) Instinct is a great thing. I'm never distrusting it again. This has sounded like a self indulgenet rant but there was a great response to the litigation wail of dispair so this is to say thanks to all the nice people and not to the mean person who made scathing comments. people like you are particularly nasty because you like to kick people when they are down. Whats worst is that my friend is still working there and can feel the first phase of MOG getting rid of her paraonia coming on, and theres no way to prevent it. I think she should cut her losses and leave now because if you fight him back, he will sting back even harder. Hes just evil. In a way though, I'm so glad it happened because i have to get a real job soon and its taught me alot about office politics and keeping everyone at arms length and the necessity in having No political enemies and the importance of keeping a low profile. This has been a very harsh lesson for the belle and sebastians of this world but it just goes to show how too much escapism isn't really all that good for your moral wellbeing. God, I've aged at least 15 years over the last two days. Lets all sigh together. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I think I better do some yoga. ________________________________________ Disclaimer : the information which is obtained through a quiet perusal of these emails should be absorbed by osmosis. Allow one to two years for the genius of each and every intentional spelling mistake and grammtical error to sink in for maximum effect. Recognising that Denise sometimes embellishes stories and leans towards outright lies is important for your own acumen of the holistic elements of the emails. Should your knee get itchy whilst you read emails from Denise, she is completely unresponsible unless of course, she happens to be tickling your knee. Then it is right and proper to stick something smaller than your elbow into her ear with the sole purpose to hurt her. That'll teach her. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From EliotNew at xxx.com Tue Apr 25 23:31:15 2000 From: EliotNew at xxx.com (EliotNew at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:31:15 EDT Subject: Sinister: bedsit infamy- please read Message-ID: <57.4d3a815.263776b3@aol.com> Hear: So sad the scene. Was it possible for me to know that a few descriptions and lyrics from the new Belle And Sebastian album would receive a hostile welcome from a group of people into Belle And Sebastian? Before I'd heard it I was literally begging people who had to give me any description of it they could. I was rabid to hear lyric lines and who sang on what song, song titles, anything, all without a trace of jealousy or envy that they had it, just an eagerness to hear it. Notice in my first post I avoided a long and winding review of the thing. This was on purpose. Reviews are generally uninteresting to myself. Hearing regular fans' descriptions are not. I wouldn't receive the most minute thrill had I posted to 'show off' because I'm not that type. I don't care if someone has something before I do. That would be a hell of a way to go through life. People go on about Bowlie and ATP and various live shows and I read every word from an apartment in Oregon with a smile. Perhaps if you have a sour reaction to someone having something you don't, your eyes are green. Surely it was noticeable in the first sentence the post was a description of the album. Unless you're some sort of genetic oddity that can consume whole pages of information at once you could have clicked on by if you were not interested in hearing about the new album. Is it possible to have to say more? Thanks for the correction about 'Waiting For The Moon To Rise'. Righting a mis-attribution of singing credit isn't the slightest pedantic! It is the lovely Sarah who steps to the vocal fore. Perhaps that's why I like the song so much. Eliot +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Tue Apr 25 23:40:29 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 23:40:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Size Matters Message-ID: <000001bfaf07$5e8a0a40$7732073e@default> Evening All, I shall probably regret popping my pate above the parapet again, but anyway. VFM: I think there is a problem about charging "The Kids" full price for an album that's shorter than some £3.99 singles (which admittedly ARE often padded out with remixes.) One might expect a current CD album to be anything up to 60 minutes long. Maybe there wouldn't be a problem if one were certain that there was nothing else left in the can (which I think was the case with Pink Moon, although I await correction on that point.) However, what if you went to see a band on a tour to promote a (short) album & 40% of the set was unreleased? Some punters will pick up a CD in a shop just because of the "Droolz is Princess Honey of the Sinister List" sticker on the front, & I feel that they have a right to know that it will only fit on one side of a C60 tape. I am speaking very generally here, & have no particular artist, album or label in mind as I write Now for Fill Your Honey Cup, etc. reviews. I don't altogether understand the anticipation faction, but will try my best to respect it, as it is apparent that numerous others on the list wish. I guess that in the many weeks remaining until this album is at last released it will become increasingly hard to avoid seeing reviews that those loathesome journalists will pen having copped an early listen to their unfair freebies. Unless of course one chooses not to buy the media, or not to read the articles. It strikes me that a similar plan could be followed with any review-type posts that might emerge on this list, especially if signposted "Two or Three I Know About The New Album", & rather obviously consisting of a blow by blow account of the record. One could delete or skip it. Like one does with posts from people one knows to be boring. Good grief, isn't there an terifying echo in here?.......................... Unreserved apologies to everyone who I have ever or will ever upset in my life. I'm very sorry. Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From joefri714 at xxx.com Wed Apr 26 00:47:50 2000 From: joefri714 at xxx.com (*Boygirlorder *) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 23:47:50 GMT Subject: Sinister: hey kids give me a hand Message-ID: <20000425234750.74686.qmail@hotmail.com> why hello there kids, have you ever had one of those days where you have so much work to do that you just watch tv...i have them all the time....today i slept for 16 hours...well it wasnt all today...i went to bed at 7 last night and woke at 1 this afternoon...i feel dead tired now..anyway...ive eaten a whole lot of easymac lately....quite lovely stuff....nobel prize worthy i think...(im watching this post go downhill as i type, not that there was really a peak...downhill kindof insinuates that there was a point where it was good)...I HAVE A GIRLFRIEND NOW....since the last time i posted...and since the last time i promised id never post again...so, those of you who thought i was gay...im not...i have also lost all ability to organize thoughts...which is apparent to all of you now...im feeling bad for laughing at all of my frinds over winter break as they fled back to school and i enjoyed a long break...as they are getting out, and im here for another month....full of papers and exams SPEAKING OF PAPERS (how bout that segway) for my cultural studies class i must give a presentation/paper on a subculture that we are involved in or are interested in...and as lame as it might sound...and as hard as it will be for me to present...i have decided to tell all about you lot...so...in order to not missrepresent you...i would like to hear what you guys have to say...why did you join sinister, why have you stayed...how would you describe it....what is it that makes you want to read 30 emails a day...anything that you would like to contribute would be fucking rad as far as im concerned...including emails to tell me to shut up and go away...that you dont want to be covered in a presentation...as you feel that deep inquiry and analysis cheapens the experience (thats what i kinda thought) also you can send death threats, propositions for cheap sex, invitations to bar mitzvahs etc...just please SEND THEM TO ME NOT THE LIST...as that could start a thread that would make people hate me more...send everything to MEMEMEMEMEMEME.....gold, riches, the souls of your firstborm...al to ME....anyway...im off to sleep i think. with nonsexual love, mark PS! like all my posts....if you hate this one...blame will porter and laura llew...they always make me do it.....byebye ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kpc98c at xxx.UK Wed Apr 26 02:13:48 2000 From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:13:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: A pantry of bakers Message-ID: <200004260114.CAA11288@missprint.org> Hello, Back to Uni and everything here seems to be exactly the same as a month ago... except that I have left about 1,000,000 things I forgot to bring and had to buy them again :-( Ohhh.. what a storm brewed week it seems on sinister... Vel fell! >> last night... I fell with my scooter... << Too much velocity... well I hope Jeanette the village nurse is taking care of you without too much rectal termometer torture! >> now I have a swollen blueish knee to the size of a tennis ball<< ..an entry to the body parts gallery I think! Kev the girl... >> well I got mistaken for a lady again..<< I had that once, looking slightly girlie anyway and used to have a rock city going head banging good hairstyle... I went to this shop with my friend, the shopkeeper is this old guy... and a comment he made to my friend was "Your girlfriend is very pretty!" well.. at least I was pretty I suppose....... ====== waterman saga... I suppose B&S should thank waterman for the kind words.. I mean, calling them "Cheesy pop stars" is like a certificate from the master isn't it? The master of cheese saying you're cheesy is like Obe-Wan telling you that you're a Jedi... but B&S becoming mainstream sounds wicked.. and I can tell them that I knew them before they went famous! Yay. but yes, waterman is a complete moke! Talk about mokes, everyone in 101cd.com are total adrenaline extreme mokes.. somehow they have managed to delay a month in posting me "This is just a modern rock song", to my Uni hall just as I left for home last month, and so I patiently waited all Easter for it and come back and it doesn't seem to have been posted to me afterall... I WANT TO LISTEN TO TIJAMRS AND I WANT IT NOW... will it arrive before I get legal man? I just don't know..... ah well.. enough of me moaning about everything... so bye! Juggling balls and RedBulls Ken ====================================================================== Girl in the snow, where do you go, to find someone who will do, to tell someone all the truth before it kills you? They listen to your crazy laugh, before you hang a right, and disappear from sight. - Belle & Sebastian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Wed Apr 26 06:39:57 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 06:39:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Size matters Message-ID: <000001bfaf41$fa33d860$4f7401d5@default> Evening All, I shall probably regret popping my pate above the parapet again, but anyway. VFM: I think there is a problem about charging "The Kids" full price for an album that's shorter than some £3.99 singles (which admittedly ARE often padded out with remixes.) One might expect a current CD album to be anything up to 60 minutes long. Maybe there wouldn't be a problem if one were certain that there was nothing else left in the can (which I think was the case with Pink Moon, although I await correction on that point.) However, what if you went to see a band on a tour to promote a (short) album & 40% of the set was unreleased? Some punters will pick up a CD in a shop just because of the "Droolz is Princess Honey of the Sinister List" sticker on the front, & I feel that they have a right to know that it will only fit on one side of a C60 tape. I am speaking very generally here, & have no particular artist, album or label in mind as I write Now for Fill Your Honey Cup, etc. reviews. I don't altogether understand the anticipation faction, but will try my best to respect it, as it is apparent that numerous others on the list wish. I guess that in the many weeks remaining until this album is at last released it will become increasingly hard to avoid seeing reviews that those loathesome journalists will pen having copped an early listen to their unfair freebies. Unless of course one chooses not to buy the media, or not to read the articles. It strikes me that a similar plan could be followed with any review-type posts that might emerge on this list, especially if signposted "Two or Three I Know About The New Album", & rather obviously consisting of a blow by blow account of the record. One could delete or skip it. Like one does with posts from people one knows to be boring. Good grief, isn't there an terifying echo in here?.......................... Unreserved apologies to everyone who I have ever or will ever upset in my life. I'm very sorry. Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Wed Apr 26 08:15:01 2000 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:15:01 +1200 Subject: Sinister: I don't want to know ANYTHING about the new album! NOT A THING! Message-ID: <004101bfaf4f$39c12660$086137d2@computer> Elliott New said "for those of you who haven't heard the album yet". For heaven's sake, lad, IT HASN'T BEEN RELEASED! I'm gonna have to start deleting my Sinister e-mails so I don't read anything more about the album. No offence to Elliott or anyone else who has posted to the list with gos about the new record, but I'm sure that *some* of us would like to keep it a surprise until release day. Thanks Nick and "The Duke" (cool name) for spreading abit of sanity. Please don't take this the wrong way, Elliott ... I'm sure lots of people are eager to know the lyrics/sounds etc., but there must be similar number who want it to be a surprise. (This is getting as bad as the spoilers before Star Wars I was released ....) Lawrence Mikkelsen http://www.akn.quik.co.nz/mikelsen/aboutme +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DKerr at xxx.uk Wed Apr 26 10:15:05 2000 From: DKerr at xxx.uk (Kerr, David) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:15:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: A Quick Thank You Message-ID: <6062D80787FBD3118E4100104B92F49E058023@MAILSERVER> Alrighty People Don't worry this wont be a long post. I just want to say "Thank You" to Elliot New for posting the information and his thoughts on the new B&S album. I personally find it hard for someone to spoil an album by giving his thoughts / views and writing down some lyrics and descriptions from a few songs. Although it does piss me off when it happens with new films like Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace. Usually when I imagine what a new album will sound like it almost always turns out to be completely different anyway. This is why I don't mind reading about what type of songs or what lyrics are on the album. Although I can understand why people would not want to know any of this. Thanks again Elliot Davie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Wed Apr 26 10:35:03 2000 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 21:35:03 +1200 Subject: Sinister: I DON'T WANNA KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE NEW ALBUM! Message-ID: <003e01bfaf62$cda28820$096137d2@computer> Elliott New said "for those of you who haven't heard the album yet". For heaven's sake, lad, IT HASN'T BEEN RELEASED YET! I'm gonna have to start deleting my Sinister e-mails so I don't read anything more about the album. No offence to Elliott or anyone else who has posted to the list with gos about the new record, but I'm sure that *some* of us would like to keep it a surprise until release day. Thanks Nick and "The Duke" (cool name) for spreading a bit of sanity. Please don't take this the wrong way, Elliott ... I'm sure lots of people are eager to know the lyrics/sounds etc., but there must be similar number who want it to be a surprise Lawrence Mikkelsen http://www.akn.quik.co.nz/mikelsen/aboutme +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Wed Apr 26 10:47:11 2000 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:47:11 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: The art of talk without saying anything Message-ID: Hi all: Ugh,a couple of days off and this list gets all stormy as if we were in the cast for some C5 version of 'Wuthering Heights', I wonder if there is such interest to revamp 19th classics inputting flesh out of the corsets here and there,why nobody had suggested c5 media moguls about this latter project.It is disturbing even with corsets up and no cleavage. Going back to factual content: should over-privileged ones have a right to proclaim they are over-privileged and the rest of us nod along celebrating their fortune?It is a nearly theological matter,omigod.Connecting this last issue of discontent with our previous discussion of musical critical theory in the last 80's, I would agree that pre-reviews would only be acceptable if their language is so baroque and obscure, and say much more about the reviewer than about the album itself, offering two choices to the reader: a)Not having understood a word from the article actually, you still can enjoy the songs fully as if they were totally new to you when copies are available to the general public. b)Absolutely struck by the correspondant's interpretation, there is no need to listen to the songs, and you can pretend when being in some social conversation,his/her opinions are yours and look like there is something as deep as that in your airheaded mind. I used to practise the b)option in my shoegazing days.never bought any Pale Saints and managed to come across as a hugely intellected 17 years old. Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Wed Apr 26 13:15:14 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 13:15:14 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: promos, camp psychiatrists and recamping In-Reply-To: <802568C2.005ACEC5.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Message-ID: On the subject of talking about the LP before it's released, Nicholas Dastardus said: > Perhaps honey would like to rool on this. Or drool, if he'd prefer. Oh heck do I have to? I'll drool anytime you want on command, it's my job after all, but rooling? I can't help feeling you're all bedding this issue down nicely, with no clear consensus, but as in the finest of online debates by spreading a melange of different views like strawberry jam on TOAST and agreeing on something or other which probably amounts to a consideration for others' feelings. Well ok I'll try to pretend to say something, but I suspect it won't amount to much more than regurgitating said TOAST... 1. I wouldn't be daft enough to forbid discussion of the LP before release day. Isn't it released the day after the UK in the US from memory? What about in China? Besides, you'd all ignore me :) 2. For those who don't want to know about the new LP, please those who have promos, tapes or heavenly visions of its contents be sparing, and make it very obvious what you're about to talk about. And if it becomes clear the majority of people would rather wait, please hush. 3. Please don't call people show-off twats on this mailing list (*growls maternally*). The Duke will expect me to say this :) Alistair, I don't know what sort of language you're learning from your pupils, but see me after class please and you can tuck your shirt in while you're at it. I said WALK not RUN!! 4. Oh, I forgot to add. Naturally the cost of revealing to everyone you have a promo is that your mailbox will be flooded with mails from people saying "can I send you a tape and you could...!". This is entirely reasonable and to be expected as the cost of your divine revelations. And promise me, PROMISE me, everyone who gets a promo, tape or whatever, that they buy the real thing when it comes out. Even if you think it's crap. You should probably buy 5 copies because you were lucky enough for someone to be nice to you in the first place. Nick also said ages ago: > Stuart had some business cards printed up billing himself as 'Camp > Psychiatrist'. His plan was to set up a booth next to the merchandise stall, > where people could come and gain expert advice on whatever subject was > troubling them. Like Lucy in Peanuts but for free. > I believe he was talked out of it. Was he? Awww. I heard he'd added a phone number for consultations to the cards too... Neil the manager's and erstwhile bassist's. **twang** Now, another thing. I don't know of many other mailing lists as active as this one, and with something rapidly and suddenly approaching 1300 readers, that keeps together like this one does. It's remarkable and due to YOU, but it's clear the majority of people aren't having time to read the majority of posts, and things are being repeated. This will do us no good, and is stage one of List Death. Looking back at the number of posts to the list per month in the archives I was surprised to see it isn't any higher than when we were half the size, and a lot less than a few months after it started. I therefore can only conclude that there's a sufficient number of somewhat indigestible posts to the majority of people that it's making them pick and choose. I don't mean to be mean, and I'm not picking on anyone specific: I'm honestly not thinking of any particular posts here. I'd just like the few who seem to be flinging mails to the list with gay abandon to desist, withdraw and recamp (*ignores the potential for poor humour out of the words "gay" and "recamp", and thinks happily of Alexander in "Queer As Folk"*). If you think something might have been posted before concerning what you're about to say, it's your duty to find out if it has from the archives and spare us all. If the little angel who dances on your shoulder and normally tells you what shoes to buy whispers to you as you type a long mail "do they *really* want to hear about this? everyone likes chocolate you know..." then pay heed please. And cardinal rule: if you haven't been able to keep up with the list, please do before you post yourself. Don't add to the pile if you're not prepared to go through it yourself. And if it's clear you haven't read THIS mail when you next post to the list, it may get a little quiet for you subsequently. I know it sounds mean...ish but it's the only way to ensure we don't break up into little slightly ill-tempered islands. Thank you for not mailing me and telling me I'm wicked for picking on you. :) I'm not! It's a mailing list mummy thang. You know when your mum asked you to tidy your room *again* and you hated her for a bit as she stood there with that look on her face leaning on the vacuum cleaner and looking at you? But then you decided it was just her job? It's like that. Broken pipe, List Mummy Honey x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Wed Apr 26 15:21:54 2000 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:21:54 GMT Subject: Sinister: PLEASE read the first paragraph!!!!! Message-ID: <20000426142154.31302.qmail@hotmail.com> PLEASE READ THE FIRST PARAGRAPH AT LEAST!!! Hello All. I was thinking about the whole B&S situation last night, and thought that this time right at the moment is probably quite an important point in their history � like the calm before the storm of the big time world domination. And for that reason I thought it may be a fun thing to do to find out what the list�s definitive favourite B&S song is. Lots of people in their debut post write their favourite song, and well, I�m willing to compile it if you�re willing to vote. Still interested? Good. I reckon that it would be a lot easier to number the songs, so that then you could just put them in the subject line, so I wouldn�t have to open 1200 emails. So people, if you want to have your say in this great democracy, please email me privately (samwaltonyeah at hotmail.com) and simply write on the subject line �Vote: x, y, z� where x is your favourite song, y your second favourite and z your third. Remember, if you don�t vote, you have no right to complain about the result� If for some reason your favourite song doesn�t appear on the list below, please write it the body of he email, and put something that suggests that you have on the subject line, and I�ll open the email. Got that? Good. Any problems, email me privately. Here�s the list then� 1. The State That I Am In 2. Expectations 3. She�s Losing It 4. You�re Just A Baby 5. Electronic Renaissance 6. I Could Be Dreaming 7. We Rule The School 8. My Wandering Days Are Over 9. I Don�t Love Anyone 10. Mary Jo 11. The Stars Of Track And Field 12. Seeing Other People 13. Me And The Major 14. Like Dylan In The Movies 15. The Fox In The Snow 16. Get Me Away From Here, I�m Dying 17. If You�re Feeling Sinister 18. Mayfly 19. The Boy Done Wrong Again 20. Judy And The Dream Of Horses 21. It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career 22. Sleep The Clock Around 23. Is It Wicked Not To Care? 24. Ease Your Feet Off In The Sea 25. A Summer Wasting 26. Seymour Stein 27. A Space Boy Dream 28. Dirty Dream Number 2 29. The Boy With The Arab Strap 30. Chickfactor 31. Simple Things 32. The Rollercoaster Ride 33. Dog On Wheels 34. The State That I Am In (Demo Version) 35. String Bean Jean 36. Belle & Sebastian 37. Lazy Line Painter Jane 38. You Made Me Forget My Dreams 39. Photo Jenny 40. A Century Of Elvis 41. A Century Of Fakers 42. Le Pastie De La Bourgeousie 43. Beautiful 44. Put The Book Back On The Shelf 45. This Is Just A Modern Rock Song 46. I Know Where The Summer Goes 47. The Gate 48. Slow Graffiti 49. The Loneliness Of A Middle-Distance Runner That�s all I think. There may be some which aren�t on any EP�s or LP�s, but if there are, please tell me. Oh, and by the way, don�t just vote for the most obscure, vote for THE BEST. PLEASE: No clever entries off FLAPPYCLAP, and I think it would be nice to have a list finalised by 22nd May, so, please no waiting around for Legal Man to come out so that it or Dickslap or the other one makes it in. I�ve deliberately excluded Legal Man, because the idea is to work out the favourite so far, from the beginning to now. Sorry if this strikes you as very anal, but I like doing these kinds of things. Looking forward to a barrage of entries�. Love, Sam.x ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Wed Apr 26 17:13:58 2000 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:13:58 GMT Subject: Sinister: please put them in number form... (thank you) Message-ID: <20000426161358.41178.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi. Me again. If you could send your votes in in number form, it would make everything a helluva lot easier. If you don't have the numbers available, please email me at samwaltonyeah at hotmail.com. Cheers. I have a feeling this is going to be quite a task. I've already had 13 votes, and there are two definite leaders already... Love, Sam.x P.S. Does the sinister village bookies want to put any odds on any choons? I'll advise them if they want... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Apr 26 17:25:59 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 17:25:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Rubbing the impossible to burst Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22DB3ABA@SERVER1> Seems a good time to break my recent silence on sinister - I'm craving some TOAST, but this is more important. Or is it? I'm writing because this thing just sent from cheapster advertising a Q & A session with the Glasgae twee massive (see below) has annoyed me, and I can't quite put my finger on why. It seems like a crass and nasty publicity stunt, not an event organised for the people who actually like the band - shouldn't we be able to buy tickets like normal people? It screams of New Jeepster style Control tactics - the only thing in it for the band that I can see is this "event" taking the place of the endless interviews they're no doubt being pressured to do. But really, imagine it. A couple of hundred Kids, who are either too shy to talk to their idols or don't really give a toss, plus a dozen or so journos, eager for nothing more than a throwaway soundbite or just gagging to have a go. And just imagine how uncomfortable the band will feel - frail fey fuckers they may not be in reality, but we're not talking willing spotlight-sniffers here. The whole deal reeks of Bad Things to me. Please tell me I'm wrong, but urgh, it's not making me feel comfortable. I've written an email to David K and Neil R, but I'm not going to send it - I can't explain well enough why I find it distasteful. I wouldn't mind some answers, though, so Neil, if you can allay my fears, please do! I'll still be trying to get tickets, mind. Maybe someone, ahem, close to the band could try and wangle a few for a Sinister delegation... "Belle and Sebastian are to host a Question & Answer evening for media and fans, on 3rd May, 2000 in London. All members of the band will be in attendance. The evening will be split into two parts - Questions and Answers, followed by a Party, with Richard and Chris DJ'ing. For the chance to win a ticket for the event, listen in to Radio One's Evening Session on Thursday 27th April, from 8 - 10pm." Mark x ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From purpletrousers at xxx.com Thu Apr 27 03:03:13 2000 From: purpletrousers at xxx.com (Jim Taylor) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 02:03:13 GMT Subject: Sinister: they don't like it up 'em (nme / ATPs football - tenuous B&S content) Message-ID: <20000427020314.62167.qmail@hotmail.com> feel like a born again virgin emailing to the list from a new account... would encourage those with an interest in the fact that the sinister massive kicked the nme's arse football stylee back at all tomorrows parties, to check out this weeks NME, and the BANGING ON column. ooooh they didn't like losing to us did they...... well done Sean on putting them right as to who Slot Jockey *really* were.... as reliable in media manipulations as in defence that man. (please forgive my not having time to type out the column - maybe some kind soul might get the chance??? i did try and find it on the website and could proably have typed it in in the amount of time that took :( on the whole ATPs thing, hello to all, sorry to all i was too miserable/lazy/crap to make the effort to talk to, and just to say how great it was to hang out with new & old friends. Despite constantly and rather over-confidently worrying how many games we'd have to play (and how many bands i'd miss) OVER TWO DAYS if we went the whole way, i hadn't really expected us to out do last years sterling performance. i regard ali's post (12/04/00) as definitve archive for the weekend's on pitch activities. And so i have to say a massive R'spec to (my boys, my boys) Sean, Rich, Rozzer, Rory, Trousers, Ali, Vince & the amlost deadly finnisher Murdoch (& i 'spose martin-did i miss something-robinson). It was an honour to play behind you(!), and a pleasure as it meant again, nobody noticed that i'm not actaully a goalie. which is nice. where were you mr. casserole? alas i cannot join pic-nic activities 20/5...... it should be as i'm off to wembley to see my beloved villa take on the west london foreign legion, in their first fa cup final since 1957 (yawn, sorry i know) but i am alas leaving the country, rather frustratingly at 2.45 THAT saturday afternoon, and so shall miss the evenings events also. i do trust you'll all have lots of fizzy pop, cake & fun. and end up in the pub as usual. i'm sending an email to the eNeMa[E]..... no real politics indeed. ok love to y'all.... anyone going to Yo La Tengo london, so i don't have to skulk about on my own???? cheers jim PS does anybody have any team photos - before and after final, & team/support photos that can be attached to the sinsiter home????? i have a not-all-the-team polaroid that i'll get scanned in by about november. promise. PPS The delightful plastic bucket trophy sits resplendent with polariod attached on top of our telly. i think the poetry parrot should be sent my way to collect it and pass it on to addorn some of our star player's mantelpieces. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Wed Apr 26 16:43:21 2000 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:43:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Stephen fiffles Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69010D155E@park_ex> Ah, the sweet days of summer approach and a young man's mind turns to thoughts of fields of mud and music played through 100 foot speaker stacks. Yes, my little kiddywinks, now that Camber is well and truly over with it's time to think aboot proper festys with tents and hippies and things. Following my *complete* failure to meet any other sinisterines at Glastonbury last year I thought it might be nice to have a little sub-list for those of us thinking of going, so we can have a picnic in the stone circle (errrr, maybe...) or at least meet up for a beer (YAY). Anyway, if you'd like to come and play (remember it's only EIGHT weeks away), go to: http://www.egroups.com/group/siniglasto and sign up. I doubt it'll be the world's busiest list somehow :) And yes, I know e-groups are the devil's own spawn, but, well, the list's only going to be around for a few weeks... In news nearer to home, myself and Mrs CarsmileSteve shall be in LUN-DING Saturday, Sunday and Monday, for our Wedding Anniversary (yes it was already a year ago, doesn't time fly) fun and frolics, mainly consisting of Baxendale in Notting Hill on Sat evening at the mo. If anyone fancies a pint, drop me a line (on thursday pls, got friday off) or I'll prolly be in #sinister (or #teenslut). xoxo CarsmileSteve PS just to clear a few things up, my name is steve hewitt. Carsmile was the name of my now sadly defunct band, and i thought it would be cunning to use it as my internet name in a kind of subliminal advertising kind of way, and following the demise of the band it just kind of stuck. Mrs CarsmileSteve's real name is Meg Hewitt, she wasn't in the band. Does that make sense now? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Thu Apr 27 10:09:24 2000 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 21:09:24 +1200 Subject: Sinister: pop? Message-ID: <00ae01bfb029$13c52c60$a46137d2@computer> So Belle & Sebastian are going to shed their indie image and go "pop" huh? Ummm ... Belle & Sebastian have ALWAYS been a pop band. But does this mean they're going to start doing .... (gasp) Interviews? Photo shoots? I don't buy it. As far as I'm concerned (and I'm really not trying to sound snobbish here) B&S are just to clever for the pop charts. Note the current crop of chart heroes ... Britney, NSYNC, Backstreet Boys, Bille etc. I just can't see songs featuring Mark Twain, Dogs on Wheels, Thrush and Catholicism really making much of a dent. To quote Robert Forster "... too good for the bloody charts". Look at all the great, intelligent pop bands who only skimmed the nether regions of the charts .... The Smiths and The Go-Betweens in particular. There's no deny that they were both great pop .... but fat lot of good it did them. Much as I'd like to see B&S as world straddling chart-busters (that way they might tour down in the arse-end of the South pacific and I'll be able to see them) I just can't see it happening. Best of luck all the same ..... (and look out Steps ....) Lawrence Mikkelsen http://www.akn.quik.co.nz/mikelsen/aboutme +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinkjacketandtie at xxx.com Thu Apr 27 11:43:45 2000 From: pinkjacketandtie at xxx.com (aimee) Date: 27 Apr 2000 10:43:45 -0000 Subject: Sinister: the bad judgement of a mute can often lead to an endless rant. sorry. Message-ID: <20000427104345.31255.qmail@fiver.freemessage.com> oopsy. I've been out of the nursery for...oh, say...one year, give or take a day. And I DIDN'T REALISE IT. One year spent as a mute, wasted. The thing is, I subscribed at the start of '99 (oh, such a long time ago that was), then unsubscribed the same week that I was let out of the nursery in order to travel around Asia with my school's touring band, regretfully (not because of the trip, silly - because I had to unsubscribe). As soon as I returned and subscribed again, I must have been instantly out of the nursery! Oh, what a fool I was. I always thought that I must have been released already, but I suppose I'm such a sloth that I was too lazy to experiment and send anything to you lot. So now I write, and write a lot I shall, I fear. Scroll onwards... Well, my name is Aimee, and I'm 17 years old. I live in a place called Adelaide, Australia (does EVERYTHING in my life have to revolve around the letter A? Well...actually, no), and I'm doing Year 12 at school, which means I'm in my last year of high school, and I am very stressed out because of the pressure that it all involves. I shouldn't really be this stressed though, because I only want to get into Arts at uni next year, and we all know that that means I won't be getting a job. (: There must be something very wrong with me then, I hear you say. Hmm. NO! - I just want to get out of Adelaide and into Melbourne for uni, 'tis all!! Even though I'm SUPPOSEDLY on a two-week break from school at the moment, my horrible slave-driving school has decided to give us exams the first week back at school, which no other school in this ENTIRE NATION has decided to do! Can you believe that? Does that mean that my school is the scariest school in Australia? I think it does. I won't mention the name of my school though, just in case one of my teachers is reading this and then they'll give me evil stares when I go back. My English teacher loves me. Not LOVE loves me, no no, it's not that kind of a school, but I fear that I may be becoming the teacher's pet somewhat. All he's given me this year are 20/20s, and - don't get me wrong - I'm not COMPLAINING at all, in fact I'm almost inclined to love HIM relentlessly for the nice marks, but it's started to worry me. Even the things that I write which I think are complete crap he scribbles "absolutely breathtaking - brilliant, brilliant, profound, thought-provoking" in his red pen, and I sort of think that I should really be questioning his judgement, right? The problem is that he often yells these compliments across the classroom. For example, I am investigating the gothic and drug culture of this place here called James Place, a sort of alleyway/laneway thing for my English Major Investigative Study, in which you have to go out and interview at least four people. See, I often hang around people who are that way inclined - but no, I'm not a goth and I don't indulge in any thing stronger than aspirin - so I thought that interviewing them would be interesting for my private school chums to see. So, anyway, I handed up my proposal to my English teacher and he was reading through it while we read some poems (Sylvia Plath! Yay!), and suddenly, out of nowhere, he yells across: "Aimee! You've inspired me! This makes me feel like writing my next novel right away" (he's an author, see). So the rest of my class turn around and look at me, my reddening face hidden behind Sylvia's golden words and wondering what the hell he saw in my two par! ! ! agraphs. It's just a bit too much, see, and he never does it for anyone else - he's always reading my things out, and I'm sure that the rest of the class is starting to repress their hatred and jealousy. I DON'T WANT THE ATTENTION, OKAY MR...X...? Thankyou. ~~~~Martin said: "anyone wishing to carry on abusing me should write to me at toescantalk at yahoo.com. Anyone who knows where the toes thing comes from is a little bit special in my book." I know! I know! "Toes Can Talk" - that was a children's storybook, right? I remember reading that when I was a youngster. It was one of my all-time favourites! I thought it sounded so magical, all of those toes having a dinner party, and playing instruments and all. tr�s cute. I hope that's what you were talking about, or I'll feel silly. Ooh...would that make me "a bit special"? I hope in a good way. Anyway, that's all from me. I really only wanted to introduce myself to give my crush a chance to vote for me...hehe. Ulterior intentions and all that. Lovely. Oops, no b&s content, in my first post too! Uh...well, no one I know has even heard of them, except for my friends who are used to my constant b&s bantering and CD playing. I KNOW that there are a few Adelaidean fans on the list though, due to my year of getting to know y'all. Still, whenever someone makes a comment to me about my b&s bus t-shirt on the street, it's never because they've actually heard of the band. Oh well, them's the breaks. Jeez...this sure is a long post. I am so sorry, I couldn't control myself. Terima kasih for getting this far if you did (well, if you're reading this...duh...)! Hopefully I won't bore the pants off you next time... ~~aimee. x %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% You should have known That I'm a little despot, short and stout Here is my handgun, here is my crowd control When you tick me off then the bullets fly out Because free love is a whole lot of bullshit Free love is a whole lot of bullshit ~~Liz Phair, hello sailor %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Send someone a cool Dynamitemail flashcard greeting!! And get rewarded. GO AHEAD! http://cards.dynamitemail.com/index.php3?rid=fc-41 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Thu Apr 27 13:47:50 2000 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Jones?=) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 05:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: It's only baroque'n'roll, but I like it. I like it? No, I don't. Message-ID: <20000427124750.17512.qmail@web108.yahoomail.com> Arantxa - your vague suggestion is my poorly-executed command. [I Fought In A Wah!] Opens with a clap of synthetic thunder, then it's Geddes, fingers aflame, squashing monolithic groans out of a bent Casio. Appalling. [The Modem] A letter of complaint to US Robotics found in an abandoned satchel forms the basis for the Belles' first foray into hip-hop. Stevie hollers "It's says 56k, but it's not even close". The siren-wail that persists throughout is actually screaming Matador execs, timestretched, looped and generally spazzed about on an iMac. [Beef Or The Sun Risk] BSE or skin cancer? That's the stark choice facing the protagonist of this little gem. Neil's slap-bass is particularly striking. [Waiter, There's A Moon In My Soup] Sarah, struck by the reflection in her oxtail as she dines out on the terrace, wonders aloud about space travel. She rhymes 'Mir' with 'fear' and 'geo-stationary orbit' with 'Ronnie Corbett'. It's weightless. [Don't Leave The Flight Now, Baby] Stuart M wrestles with an unusually strong infant-with-a-death-wish, 30,000ft above the North Atlantic. Some well observed stuff about airline meals, but poisoned sonically by a lot of unnecessary 12-string noodling. [The Chong Girl] Stevie meets a young woman named Annabel, who offers to show him her early Stones bootlegs. Soon the hapless Mr Jackson is in a room with 250 naked men, and has to make his excuses. A wry, dry, surprisingly spry gambol through Noel Coward territory. [The Shallow Limes] Vicious lyrical bomb from Murdoch, full of f-words. Sounds like a fist-fight between Fred Frith and Frank Field in a Fife fishmongers. On a Friday. Flippin' 'eck. [Nice Day For A 1982 Associates LP] The obvious airplay hit. SM has a shower, and then phones his brother up. Within the hour, he'll smash another cup. There's a Beefheart feel to the percussion, some of which is played by chimps. Or *should* be. [Woman's Ream] 14 minutes of loose-leaf goodness. Soaked in strings, saturated with brass, drenched in woodwind and positively waterlogged by a 200-strong choir. There's some line about "Put your faith in Glaxo". I really don't know what this one's about, but I feel more spiritually centered for hearing it. A4? A1! [The Family III] Throwaway glam-stomper about fly-on-the-wall docs. Isobel sings this at gunpoint. Nice flanging. [There's Too Much L'oeuf] Breakfast complaints from Mad Dog. Doesn't really get going until Richard peels the felt off his sticks, and really punishes some skins. Lots of ad-libbed shuffling about at the end. Mike x. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online and get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From duke at xxx.uk Thu Apr 27 14:09:51 2000 From: duke at xxx.uk (duke of harringay) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 14:09:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: long winded post that says nothing very intersting at all In-Reply-To: <20000427104345.31255.qmail@fiver.freemessage.com> Message-ID: Current listening = the Delgados new record. No opinions forthcoming at this time. Not like me really, is it? No opinions I mean not the listening to the Delgados. My apologies to anyone dismembered by my barbs about sharing opinions on non-public-yet records. In the spirit of the times then, I made some notes on some things not-yet-public. Seasoned readers will want to press ‘deleteÂ’ right now. The Visitors ‘MissÂ’ album is a collection of little known pop, IÂ’m sorry, Pop gems that stab at the very heart of What It Is To Be Sixteen. ThatÂ’s Sixteen, clumsy and shy probably or at least sixteen, angry and drunk. Perhaps both. Some songs are penned and warbled by some self-proclaimed fat, ignorant drunk. Top quality Not due for anyone to be hearing until at least June I expect. Who mentioned the Smiths and the Go-Betweens recently and suggested that they merely scratched at the nether regions of the ‘chartsÂ’? Pah. The Go-Betweens never so much as sniffed the charts, not even when Beggars Banquet tried silly marketing ploys like traffic light shaped packages or some such nonsense. Double pah. It just goes to show how stupid people can be (for not buying the Go-Betweens records I mean, not for suggesting that they sniffed the charts because obviously thatÂ’s a question of interpretation and maybe Streets Of Your Town reached 41 or something ) And The Smiths? Well, hell, The Smiths were regularly ‘top, top twentyÂ’ (to be sung as in the Undertones tune ) tunesters, and didnÂ’t ‘PanicÂ’ go top five or something ridiculous? ItÂ’s all so long ago and I know my mind is dulled by too much work and wine, as well as many other things. I dug out my old Smiths singles the other week and made up a tape for an ex-pupil who told me he saw them on MTV and remembered me saying how good they were and he was surprised I was right hmmm. The Smiths on MTV, how strange that would have sounded back in 1984 when we swore they were the very epitome of anti-chart pop. These were the days when the Razorcuts would write ‘Top 40Â’s not where itÂ’s at anymoreÂ’ on their sleeves and we would jump up and down and say ‘yessum, it is indeed so.Â’ For it was. I used to think that Belle & Sebastian were godlike in their rejection of all things rock and roll, that they were treading very strange avenues indeed with their refusals and perusals and odd meanderings. Then they seemed to grow up and become dull. Which is just my opinion. I feel kind of disappointed. Actually I feel very disappointed, but thatÂ’s the prerogative of artists, just as it is the prerogative of other artists to do what the hell they like and not have to explain it all away to anyone like me. Especially if what they do seems to be a bit dreary and weak willed. Someone recently called me a bitter pill, which I thought was pretty spot on. Honey, my students call me worse than that all the time itÂ’s true I must be picking up bad habits from them. I was talking about things that werenÂ’t released yet, wasnÂ’t I? (Hey Aimee! Tell your English teacher to stick it up his bum. My students do this all the time and I donÂ’t even tell them they are great. In fact the exact opposite. The tears IÂ’ve had from being honest ‘this is crapÂ’ is always a good one for that. ItÂ’s the new brutality ) well when the new Aislers Set album is released in a couple of months time you must all promise me that you will head out to the stores and buy it. ThatÂ’s if you can find it I seem to have endless difficulties in finding ANYthing I want in the local stores. I want, and I mean I WANT the Stars record but has anyone even heard of it? No siree. I am driven to ordering it through CDNOW in the USA, who have it as an import so I am getting an exported import. Or something. That Â’s if their back ordering service even works at all. Meantime anyone who can furnish more details (like record label?) much appreciated. Endless praises be to MP3s. And they do a storming cover of This Charming Man. Which is enough Smiths for one post by FAR. Ailsers Set yes, yes, and thrice YES. ThereÂ’s a song by Wyatt that goes on about being drunk on the streets of Chicago for fourteen days on end and I tell you, it SENDS me every time. And another of AmyÂ’s that says something about heading up to the New York border that is just sublime. Honest, I had a minidisk of the Aislers Set album, and one of the B&S album when I was on the plane to New York last week and do you know what? The B&S one didnÂ’t get a look in. But IÂ’m not telling you why not. Oh no. ThereÂ’s a book that comes out next month and itÂ’s called ‘PowderÂ’ and the NME says ‘Read itÂ’. Of course you know by now to never trust the NME (unless you donÂ’t, in which case you are fifteen and thatÂ’s understandable give it time) but really this book should be avoided at all costs. It is written by the bloke who used to be the manager for the Farm. Hands up who remembers THEM? No sniggering at the back. I mean it I wrote this book when I was 16. No really, I did. Some of it anyway. Ask my friends oh wait, I didnÂ’t have any. Which is why I wrote the book. Hmmmm. All of this says much more about the lack of quality in ‘PowderÂ’ than it does about any quantity of it my writing when I was 16. I mean, look at it now. How much better can it have gotten? Answers to be kept to yourselves especially Peter Miller, who I just mentioned because I know he loves to see his name in print. And hey, Miller, the fat ignorant drunk and I were arguing about which of us it was you were taking the piss out of in your recent Papercuts outing? I insist it was him because thereÂ’s no way IÂ’d have said such things about Hip Hop. I am too ignorant And on that unarguable point, I shall withdraw, perchance to dream of seeing the Magnetic Fields in July what a super start to our summer hols! Still keeping some kind of strange faith The Duke +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From EliotNew at xxx.com Thu Apr 27 15:39:50 2000 From: EliotNew at xxx.com (EliotNew at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 10:39:50 EDT Subject: Sinister: long winded post that says nothing very intersting at all Message-ID: <> Assuming this is more or less (likely more) extended to me, I would like to secure the Duke's return to a good night's sleep by assuring him I've yet in my life to be even lightly scratched by someone who uses the word "witter", much less the phrase "nah nah". I would advise the Duke to consider a sword, as his pen is not very mighty. I trust any further discussion can be done in private mails. Eliot +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From glen.mitchell at xxx.com Thu Apr 27 15:48:57 2000 From: glen.mitchell at xxx.com (Glen) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:48:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: i don't think so.... Message-ID: <00e501bfb057$b9af9b00$86a6073e@oemcomputer> Hello there The simple fact of the matter of B&S becoming popular is this: It's not going to happen. Can you really imagine 8 year old school girls whose record collection includes such lumanaries as Five and the evil Steps begging their mummies to buy them the new Belle and Sebastian record? Likewise can you imagine the Phonics/Travis/Oasis "indie" fans suddenly reading deep into the words of a song that they heard on Sara Cox's Breakfast Show? Sara Cockhead won't even play Legal Man. (probably) I think that in a few months time B&S will only be as popular as, say Travis before "The Man Who". The problem is, as Lawrence said, that B&S are too clever for the charts. Also they are too sensitive, and would be branded as wussys for not having a loud and arrogant attitude. The video for Legal Man is not going to be about a bet which results in Stuart M having to do constant press ups for 12 hours while the rest of the band sit around and watch. B&S are not stereotypically rock n' roll. (sorry if I sound like a total dick) Glen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From burns_alan29 at xxx.com Thu Apr 27 17:16:09 2000 From: burns_alan29 at xxx.com (Alan Burns) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:16:09 GMT Subject: Sinister: Well, *deep breath*, just out of the nursery... Message-ID: <20000427161609.21521.qmail@hotmail.com> ...when I signed on to Sinister, I was initially scornful of the strict rules, I have to shamefully admit. you mean I've got to wait a month to post a message?? mmmmph. but now it's all clear...the time spent reading all your messages was just right to get to know what goes on, so I don't dive straight in and look like an arse. so thanks honey! :) this looks like a really nice mail list already, with lots of nice people (and two very nice people, but I didn't join just to stalk them...honest! ;) looks nicer than the other mailing list I've been on too; that particular one's completely unregulated too, so it daily consists of several middle-aged Vietnam veterans reminiscing about how everything used to sound better on 8-track cartridge, and the only person near my own age is a rather excitable Belgian lad. they're all lovely people though, and share a common worship of my favourite artist of all time (who's just released a lovely new album), so they're like family. why then join Sinister? well, as everyone knows, the word sinister is derived from the latin "sinistra", which means "left handed". like me. okay, now for the not-made-up reason. like any normal human being, I like discovering people like me, and chatting to them. for someone like me, and I'm sure everyone else here, that's quite hard to do, which is where the wonders of technology come in. if you're enough of a chancer to be able to blag your way into higher education ("it's full time in McDonalds when I graduate....full time in McDonalds when I graduate...."), you quickly discover that one of the greatest benefits is free internet access, to get straight to the places where like-minded souls will hide away. I'd currently describe myself as a "Belle & Sebastian prodigal son". as a 17-year old insomniac, there once was a night when I chanced upon a song on Radio 1 which made me jump up and proclaim "Phil Spector's gone back into production!" I genuinely believed this until, a month later, it was finally released and I found out the song had been recorded by some bloke called Tony Doogan. in the song's lyrics, especially the mystical incantation of having a boy/girl tonight on the last bus out of town, I immediately felt a lot less lonely than I had for a long time. which was the effect every other B&S release had on me after that. Stuart's, and then eventually Isobel's/Stuart's lyrics reflected the state my life was in so closely I could swear I saw them taking notes over my shoulder when I passed a mirror. there's a gear-change in your lifestyle when you finally leave home which is so profound you'll never quite feel anything as earth-shaking again. for me, living in Liverpool for a year and then in Edinburgh for the past year (anyone applying to Liverpool University might want to go over their course-structures with a microscope and a fine toothcomb, but enough axe-wielding bitterness) I suddenly had something called a "social life", which I'd never had before (and discovered it costs you your dignity, virginity, and around �30 a night in a student union), and another novelty called "a decent circle of friends". in this new life, I was suddenly left with 3 albums, 4 e.p.s and a naughty wee tape called "Wee Graeme the B&S Trainspotter's Compilation of The Black Sessions & some BBC Stuff" which I couldn't relate to at all. in fact, listening to them at all just reminded me over and over of the hell I'd emerged from back home, as all the songs were totally engrained into me as relating to these times. and so one of the most beautiful, small-and-perfectly-formed catalogues in popular music gathered dust (and lots of it) at the back of my cupboard for about a year or so, until two lovely (if slightly sinister) people brought the music of Belle & Sebastian back to my attention. I tried to rediscover it all, which was a long and arduous journey to complete erase all past memories of what the songs used to mean to me. thankfully, it's starting to work. and I'd be missing out on a lot of fine music if I were to neglect them anymore. so that's my "Belle & Sebastian prodigal son" story. what next? erm, I'm a "student" of Communication & Media at Napier University, in Edinburgh, which is crap, and I work in a supermarket called Somerfield on Dalry Road, Dalry, which isn't crap because I'd much rather have a job anyway than a degree. and if I stay here instead of working back home I can have a mighty fine life in general. except that Edinburgh's been pretty much underwater for the last three weeks, and I've had a cold every day. I used to be in a band, or rather an acousticky duo, which has just split up due to the pressures of work my partner in crime is currently experiencing, and differing opinions of the longview of what we wanted to do have pretty much split us up anyway. my colleague claimed that he'd only sign to a record label who gave him complete creative freedom, and where he didn't have to have his picture in the album sleeve anywhere, and he claimed that such a label didn't exist, despite my best efforts at Jeepster-conversion. I even raised the point that I still don't really know what Stuart Murdoch looks like, although I do know what Isobel looks like *sigh...* having seen The Gentle Waves in Glasgow a year ago. I'm told that Stuart was playing as part of the band that night, but I didn't know at the time, though. and I promised myself that I wouldn't mention a single other band name in my first post, as I gather one of the (I suppose pretty sensible) rules of the list is not to give huge big lists of every band you like. suffice to say, I have the kind of CD collection that looks like it was compiled by about seven or eight different people, all of whom would completely hate each other if they all met for a day. but that sort of nicely reflects the kind of person I am anyway. there isn't really much I don't like musically, I suppose. feel I have to mention one of my favourite bands, though, who I've gathered from messages I read just after joining that they didn't go down to well at All Tomorrow's Parties: the wonder that is Sonic Youth. it's such a shame they obviously had a bad night there, and I hope it doesn't colour too many people's opinions of them permanantly. from all the live bootlegs I've heard, I'll admit Sonic Youth are no stranger to a duff gig, especially in festivals of any sort for some reason: maybe they're insecure about not just playing for fans: but on nights when they're really focused, there's nothing on earth like them. Glasgow Barrowlands, February 1996 was the greatest gig of my life for that very reason. sorry, just felt they needed some justification!! really have to go now, which I'll admit is due to wanting to run home like an absolute sad gimp to get in in time for Neighbours, but there it is. been nice to meet you all, oh, and I have exactly five and a quarter days left now of being a teenager. anyone suggest how I could use them to the full?? bye, Alan. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From melvisco at xxx.com Thu Apr 27 18:49:27 2000 From: melvisco at xxx.com (molly dahl) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 09:49:27 -0800 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?Uulm6XJlbmNl?=: Sinister: i don't think so.... Message-ID: <196DB1D8EAB14D11785400807CFBD62A@melvisco.francemail.com> Hello Folks, I just wanted to comment on what Mr. Glen the Non-Dick Slap had said: The simple fact of the matter of B&S becoming popular is this: It's not going to happen. Can you really imagine 8 year old school girls whose record collection includes such lumanaries as Five and the evil Steps begging their mummies to buy them the new Belle and Sebastian record? I am in total agreeance. I was just recently discussing a similar situation with my friend who tried to convince me that Elephant6 is going to be the next grunge phase. I don't think that B&S as well as all things E6 are capable of being accepted into the mainstream of music which is out there for today (and I do believe this is quite a good thing). Basically, I've realized, amongst other things, that both B&S and E6 lack the blatant aggression of such artists in the mainstream (in E6's case, 'grunge'). Just me thoughts. Speaking of E6, I am going to see the Apples in Stereo as well as Essex Green next thursday! Yeehaw. enjoy, molly +--------------------------------------------------------------------- -+   +---+  Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list  +---+   To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe   send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to   majordomo at missprint.org.  WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+  "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+  "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper        +-+ +--------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ ---- Fin du message or Francemail Votre email gratuit. http://www.francemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.alder at xxx.uk Thu Apr 27 17:17:33 2000 From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:17:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Wo-oh-oh go totally crazy, forget I'm a lady Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F335333C@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk> It's going to be a summer of glamour for me, boys and girls. I am now the proud owner of a bottle of blood red nail varnish and a pussy bow and I intend to wear them both at the first opportunity. Just so those of you who are not so well versed in the language of fashion (daahling) don't get confused, I'd like to make it clear that a pussy bow is a length of chiffon worn about the neck, tied jauntily to one side. Please don't ask me why it's called what it is. It just is, OK? Mark C questioned the ethics of a B&S press-conference-cum-party for Radio 1. Sounds downright immoral to me but hell, I'll have my ear glued to my red wooden transistor tonight like the rest of yous (the British yous anyway). Hope it's not a phone-in though, because touch tone technology hasn't reached my corner of London yet (at least not the bastard landlord who furnished us with a jurassic era phone) and it takes a mighty long time to get from the dialling bit to the ringing bit, if you know what I mean. Plus, Maria is bound to be yakking on to some bloke in Spain or something at the precise moment when 'Lammo' reads out the question. There was always a kid at parties who whined "I never win anything" and, with an evil glint in her eye, the mum would lift the needle off the record at exactly the right moment to ensure that the little brat didn't win pass the parcel this time either. In a similar sort of way, I think I'll jinx myself if I go on about the Radio 1 thing any longer. Did you see that Sinister got a mention in Select this month? Hmmm. Eliot asked the Duke to show him his sword. Sid James cackled. Juicy Lucy ps. apologies for two posts so close together, but I needed a break from an afternoon of icon-clicking tedium. -- This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From splag at xxx.net Thu Apr 27 19:47:50 2000 From: splag at xxx.net (Scott Plagenhoef) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:47:50 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Record company man, I won't be coming to dinner Message-ID: <200004271748.SAA24878@missprint.org> hi people: Bear with me if you choose, don't blame ya if you don't: As far as B&S, E6 or any other rather lovely form of music becoming popular, it won't happen and that is more down to the way the music industry is structured than whether these bands can cross demographics and be purchased by the public en masse. The music industry has, of course, changed greatly even since the Big Grunge Breakthrough. There are only 4 major record companies in the world and they each only devote their signifcant marketing attention and dollars to a small handful of acts. Plus, the use of Soundscan has made the raw numbers of record sales and the charts a spectator sport, the same way box-office watching has become. So, artists aren't cultivated -- the record companies can't be bothered. Artists are practically judged each financial quarter on the basis of profitability rather than artistry -- and there are so few outlets for mainstream music (radio is incredibly narrow in the US and UK -- travel the US and you will find that each market has practically the exact same radio stations, a top 40, a Q- or X-labelled "alternative," an adult alternative that crosses over and plays (oooh) Matchbox twenty alongside Mariah Carey; MTV is, of course, even narrower) In the UK, it seems easier to make a chart breakthrough, with the comparitive homogeny of the country, its smaller size, the self-appointed cultural elite based mainly in one city, the greater significance of the singles chart, and national radio. With the need for the record companies to get immediate gratification to bother backing an artist in the US, it's no shock that the only new "artists" that breaktrhough to the charts are the ones either manufactured by the record companies and pushed onto the public through well-placed talk-show gigs, spots on MTV's TRL, phony teen chat rooms, being placed on soundtracks (usually to movies released by the same parent company as the record label, natch) or shopping malls appearances. Hip-hop new artists can be pushed onto the public through incestual collaborations with established artists (think Snoop Doggy Dogg or Kelis or Mya or Ma$e or Eminem). The only other things that make immediate impact are base dredge like "thong song" or "mambo #5." These are records that are aimed to get you to buy them NOW but not for you to listen to in a year so your CD carraige is empty as you now turn your nose up to your discared copy of "macarena" or "achy breaky heart" you can buy whatever is the new piece of crap they are foisting on you instead. Watch the next time someone with NO presence in the US is hyped as a "next big thing" (such as the attempts to push Robbie Williams here) and trace where they are being plugged and why. Not because a large group of the populace decides that they like said artists' music, but because the record company decides a large group of the population might, so they are shoved down our throats. If it takes immediately, great. If not, move on. With so few outlets to publicize an artist, There is little justification for the majors to bother with anyone who might not be platinum or multi-platinum. In the end, N Sync didn't sell 2.1 million records in one week because they really are *that* much more popular than Mariah Carey or Backstreet Boys or New Kids on the Block, but because the industry itself is tightening its control on the marketplace and doing a better job of eliminating kids' choices and outlets to discover new, thoughtful music for themselves. It's N Sync or Kid Rock, junior, take your pick. The worst part is that the kids don't realize that they are being sold out. They look at Limp Bizkit or Spin or alternative radio and think they are making leftfield choices rather than just buying into one version on the mainstream. When I was growing up, the record companies hadn't figured out that they could package and sell rebellion in an even slightly believable way, it was Winger or Wilson Phillips and it was obvious both were a joke, so we went out and discovered the Pixies and Public Enemy. Kids don't do that now. Well, sorry this is long-winded and more than a bit pompous and quite cynical, but, well, sorry. These aren't absolute truths, but does seem to be an unfortunate reality. Unfortunately, if large multi-nationals begin to snap up search engine sites and squeeze off internet access to the indie pop world, it could get even worse. ************************************************************** The antithesis of all of this was the beauty of last night's Looper / Flaming Lips show, which is really special (and, proving the rest of my prattle wrong, the Lips *are* major-label artists.) Wayne Coyne manages the near-impossible: The show and "Soft Bulletin" are an un-ironic, non-melodramatic and non-schmaltzy celebration of love, beauty, and basic humanity. For some reason things that would seem corny in some contexts work here because he *makes* them work with his sincerity [confetti; balloons; *so* many lyrical references to the idea of love, video of a young, innocent boy as a superman figure lifting the hardened spirits of adults; the Wizard of Oz and basic human longing (over the rainbow); videos of basic life functions such as sperm, a human heart, the inside of a womb; video of the sequence in "2001" where 'man' expereinces a trip through the infinite (and eventually emerges on the 'other side' to discover a higher power and a greater understanding of one's self -- although that part isn't in the show); and, er, people in bunny suits] Looper I had seen at the start and the end of this tour and they greatly improved over the course of those two months. I also conducted an interview with Stuart David last night, which I will shamelessly make you aware of when it is published, and I am happy to report that he couldn't have been nicer. He was very open about Belle and Sebastian as well and had quite a few interesting things to say regarding his relationship with the band and the perception of his participation with them. bye! scott. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From smiley at xxx.uk Thu Apr 27 19:07:02 2000 From: smiley at xxx.uk (Mr Smiley) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 19:07:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The subject of this post is world domination Message-ID: <012501bfb074$7899bf20$f948883e@n8j4k7> Hello, Here is this months nugget of wisdom: I have every confidence that B&S will not reach world domination levels. Everyone who I have played B&S to (which is about three people but I don't have many friends so leave me alone) has absolutely hated them. I think there's just something about them that causes people to start frothing at the mouth with contempt. God knows what, subliminal messages perhaps? Even if Legal Man is no. 1, it doesn't mean anything. Hell, Rialto had a top 20 hit, and look what happened to them. Presumably all these people who want to keep details of the new album a surprise are running into WH Smiths, ripping page 4 out of all the Melody Makers and burning them. Personally, I think a few nuggets of info probably enhances the anticipation factor. Well, that's my tuppence worth. Cheery bye, Mr Smiley (aka Mike, but not the other Mike. Obviously) Email - smiley at rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk The Black Den - http://www.rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk Post Script: Yes, I would like to apologise again for the amount of content in this post. I mean B&S content, rather than just content generally, because it's actually fairly short. Maybe I'll alternate on a sort of content, no content basis, because personally speaking I quite enjoy reading posts with no relevance to the world at all. Beats revising. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Thu Apr 27 19:53:51 2000 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (the angel blackwell) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 14:53:51 EDT Subject: Sinister: if only b&s were canadian Message-ID: <20000427185351.39344.qmail@hotmail.com> i think i may have insulted a huge great amount of you with that subject line but there is a point. because most music that comes outta this country is shite, but there is still some worthwhile talent, there's a law in kanata that forces broadcasters to play 30% canadian content...unfortunately this still doesn't help get godspeed played, except for at 3am...which is loverly. but, little b&s would get played every time there was a single released...i mean this is also the reason that tragically hip and barenaked ladies were played...k, not such a brilliant idea...do make say think have a new album out as well...they's on the same label as godspeed but based in toronto...they're just amazing...less orchestral, more guitar based than godspeed, all instrumental. my little bus t shirt came yesterday...a ray of sunshine in my neighbourhood that is nicknamed crack alley...and enough buttons to last me at least, well, uh, a while... there is also another reason that my mailman shall bring me to orgasm and that is because a certain listee has offered to burn some nick drake cd's for me... au revoir... le petit ange ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Thu Apr 27 23:23:02 2000 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:23:02 -0400 Subject: Sinister: so that's it? Message-ID: hello sinister massive i think the pickle i threw in my trash is starting to stink up my room. eeeeeeeew. but aside from that, hello! it's been a while, indeed. i've handed in my dissertation, it's done, overwith. except that my defense is next week. i talked to a girl who's already done hers, so i know what kind of questions they're going to ask, so i should really be studying now. you'll have to forgive me, as i'm a bit tipsy. had some sherry with two of my professors this afternoon, and i haven't eaten yet. aside from the few strawberries i nibbled earlier. b&s go P!O!P!? i thought it'd already happened. oh well. i mean, wasn't winning a brit award sort of a hint? don't think it'll get much bigger, though. somebody posted a theory that there's something about belle and sebastian that makes people froth at the mout with contempt. this prompted me to write. you see, last night i was a bit tipsy (seems to be the theme of this final year of college) and was talking to a boy i live with. anyway, we were talking about email lists. you see, he knows the bulk of the people he's on lists with personally, while i'm the opposite. i mentioned sinister, and how big it is, and he looked at me a little sideways, not knowing what i meant by sinister. i told him it's the b&s list, and that confused him even further. he couldn't associate the word sinister with belle and sebastian. he said he was basing his opinion entirely on album covers, particularly tigermilk (which i find personally a little sinister, myself). i explained that sinister comes from an album/song title . . . but, the point is, he would have said belle and sebbie are too twee to have a list named sinister if he'd known the word twee existed. mind you, he listens to a lot of AC/DC. of course, that hasn't stopped him from borrowing all my pulp records. and, while i'm posting, i may as well ask againg: who gave me a list crush vote? somebody did roughly a month ago, then i posted asking, and instead of getting a response, i got another crush vote. one of the two votes mysteriously disappeared (don't worry, i'm not sad about it), but i'd still like to know who the remaining vote is from. unless, of course, it's gone. i haven't checked in a couple days. i've been meaning to ask about this for some time, but could never find a good enough reason to post besides asking about list crushes, and i think just posting about the list crush is a little tacky, don't you? well, popkids, i think i'm going to sober up and go rent some movies. have a good night! -kerry "`Cos in my sleep I still clench my teeth I'm at my strongest only when I'm weak" -tindersticks, "piano song." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cartoonclouds at xxx.uk Thu Apr 27 23:38:26 2000 From: cartoonclouds at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?b=20Tilston?=) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 23:38:26 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I know the answer miss!!! Message-ID: <20000427223826.597.qmail@web4304.mail.yahoo.com> Me, me, me I know the answer Miss McArthur One day in a fit of flighty abandon, Isadora Duncan (contemporary dance-meisteress) wore a HUMONGOUSLY long scarf on one of her seaside driving jaunts. Unfortunately, one end of the aforementioned article of clothing (which we shall imagine had a pretty flower design on it) got caught in the back wheel of her car. Asphyxiation ensued... Do I get a prize now? Is it made of chocolate? Love Beth xxxxx P.S. - I'm new, so you all have to be nice to me... P.P.S. - "What are we going to do this evening, Brain?" "We are going to do what we do every evening Pinky...plan to take over thE WORLD!!!" ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Thu Apr 27 23:56:27 2000 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:56:27 EDT Subject: Sinister: Lets doooo it t'niiiiiiiiiiiiiite. Scraping the barrel for subject lines.... Message-ID: Hewwo, K, um, oh yeah, I went into Glasgow today. This is a big deal, because I went on my own without anyone, and that is always a big deal. On the train there, a moke-ish old woman kept kicking me, and I sort of looked at her, and she went mental, about young people today. So I said, "Excuse me, but people like you should be locked up", and she said "what?", and I said, "Yes, you are a disease to society, a moke, if you will", and got off the train. And her chin swelled up. Only she was right behind me getting off the train, so I couldn't have a wee giggle. Then I went all over the place and into all sorts of shops. Then I sat at George Square ( I wanted to go there so's I'd know where I was going for the picnic, because I get lost easily), and ate half a cookie, and fed the other half to the pigeons. There was this one pigeon who kept getting pushed around by all the other pigeons, because it was different, and I thought it reminded me of me, so I gave it lots of cookie, and smiled at it, so that the other pigeons would think it was really cool to be getting all that attention, but it never worked, because they ingored me and stole its cookie bits. Then I wandered up past the Buchanan Galleries and into Sauchihall Street somehow, and got a little bit lost. So I decided to go into a shop and ask for directions. So I went into a place called Ann Summers, which had underwear in the window, and I thought it looked nice because there was a big apple on the logo, and I got a bit of a fright(well, a big big big bit of a fright) when I wandered in, because it was a shop full of sex things, and big signs saying 'do not enter if you are under 18'. And then I spent about 5 minutes cowering in the doorway hoping people wouldn't see me coming out. But I found my way and got mistaken for an over 18 thrice (ooh I like that word) by survey people, one of whom told me I should go clubbing, because I'd get in. I also bought a big issue from a man who liked my trousers. I was rooting around in all the free stuff I'd got with my printer and never used, and I found sticker paper. So I made my own B&S, Hefner stickers, and put one on my guitar, but I haven't used the rest, because I'm saving, Gentle Waves, Smiths and Pokemon (team rocket waaaaaaaay) stickers them for a special sticker day. I think I will marry James from Team Rocket from Pokemon, because he has grate hair, and he wears dresses sometimes. I saw a boy with a B&S badge, but it wasn't upside down, so I didn't say hello, in case he thought I was a moke. I will cloggle (I made that word up but isn't it grate?) off now to sleep among my cuddly owls, and dollies, because it is midnight, and the witches might get me, Hugs, Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From julesmarkham at xxx.net Fri Apr 28 09:29:13 2000 From: julesmarkham at xxx.net (julesmarkham) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 09:29:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: my last fable Message-ID: <004701bfb0ec$15a26d40$a54e8cd4@tonygeorge> hey there, well, this is the last of my recent fables, so unless i think of some more pretty soon, this could well be it for a little while, sorry! One spring or other it rained so heavily that thjeriver burst its banks and flooded the town. Jubilee and the black fox, curious and bored, decided to visit the river. Jubilee was ina spirit ditch over something or other, and the black fox thought a walk would brighten her up. They wandered through busy streets and silent parks down to the bridge that crossed the swollen river. Halfway across they stopped to watch the water pass by. Jubilee picked up the fox and set her on one of the flat topped concrete pillars that spanned the bridge. The fox curled her tail around herself like a scarf ans looked at her friend. ~jubilee, what's the matter with you? Jubilee sighed and stared glumly into the water -I'm lonely, fox. She glanced up at the fox. -I know we spend a lot of time together, but I feel.. Isolated. It's not through lack of people, in fact if I wsa in a drowded room I'd still feel alone. The fox thought about what jubilee had just said, and looked down at the river, where the swans and ducks were struggling against the flood. ~Well, she said carefull, ~some of us are meant to be alone. Jubilee looked a little bothered by the idea, so the fox tried to illustrate her point. ~You see the seagulls up there? Jubilee looked up above them, there were several gulls gliding through the air above them, squealing loudly to each other and fighting over scraps of bread. She nodded silently. ~Do you see the swans? the fox continued. Jubilee looked down into the waters, where swans floated gracefully, their beauty marred when they occasionally hissed at passers by. Jubilee nodded silently. ~And the moorhens? The moorhens were creeping along the riverbank, heads bobbing nervously. ~and the ducks. The ducks were swimming in a close group, chattering like children on a day out. ~And those white geese on the grass. The geese were marching around like soldiers, snapping angrily at anything in their path. -Is this an object lesson, fox? The fox ignored the question. ~Do you see that brown goose down there? Jubilee looked down. There was a goose in the middle of the river. It wasn't struggling against the current like the ducks and swans, but was allowing itself to be carried along by the flow of the water, moving in lazy circles as it was caught up in the eddys. The goose floated underneath the bridge, looking remarkably placid considering it was going backwards. Jubilee smiled to herself. ~you see how it doesnt fight the current? the fox said softly, ~Wherever it's goiung, it'll get there eventually, so why struggle? -Like zen, jubilee said to herself. ~What's zen? ~A bhuddism thing, I think. The fox grimaced. ~Religion? No thank you! Jubilee smiled and picked up the fox. -Come on, I'm hungry. Let's get some lunch. What d'you want? The fox watched the river, and the zen goose. ~Noodles, she said finally +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Andrew_2_Lloyd at xxx.com Fri Apr 28 10:29:21 2000 From: Andrew_2_Lloyd at xxx.com (Andrew_2_Lloyd at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:29:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ...and for those of to Reading Message-ID: <802568CF.0034271E.00@uksmtp01.ha.uk.sbphrd.com> Hi, Haven't posted in bonkers ages but this was promted by CarsmileSteve's idea of setting up an egroup for sinisrerlist members going to glasto this year. Alas I'm not going to Glasto but I shall be attending the Reading fest this year, OK I know its primarily a scary ROCK festival which may feature a little too much "headbanging" or "moshing" and Oasis for our fragile little bodies and minds, but with Pulp, Beck, the delgado's (New album has by the 10th listen become my top album of theyear, surely No Danger will become an anthem for these parts) super furry animals, badly drawn boy, and the wannadies, confirming appearances its all looking rather pleasant Who'd rule out Hefner, Clinic, and Cinerama returning this year. Fingers crossed for appearance's on the new band stage for the likes of I am kloot, butterflies of love, tompaulin, baxendale, and life without buildings. We could all laugh at Slipknots particular brand of comedy as well. And Stevie Trousse if you'd like any interviews/reviews for Papercuts there I'd happily volunteer my services...... Oh the address my darlings ..... http://www.egroups.com/group/sinireading And: Post message: sinireading at egroups.com Subscribe: sinireading-subscribe at egroups.com Unsubscribe: sinireading-unsubscribe at egroups.com List owner: sinireading-owner at egroups.com Yeh, egroups is sinister, oops evil, but what can ya do 48, 8, 16 were my choice Smile's and a flutterbye to you all Andi +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Fri Apr 28 14:08:06 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:08:06 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: More Marjory Message-ID: Mick's latest edition of the B&S diary is included below, also on the band's WWW site soon I'm told. I've only just noticed that Nick sent Stuart's previous entry from March, which featured the return of Stuart's silver pants. If you didn't read it, you should now; it's at: http://www.myspace.co.uk/belleandsebastian/bus.html Fabulous. This one's a great read too. Mick, you've been reading the list again haven't you :) As part of my own contribution to the latest "selling out" endeavours everyone's making around here, I'm doing a spot of my own selling out to The Legal Man: you'll notice a new clause in the Sinister FAQ which exempts me from any responsibility from anything any of you ever say, anywhere, ever. Some list owners recently got sued over "publishing" erroneous advice sent by a list member that hurt little puppies or something. So please note that you're responsible for what you say around here, not me, and it *is* a public forum and viewable by everyone on the WWW forever. Even your gran, so be nice to her ok? The clause is at: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/faq.html#D Anyone continuing to use the list is assumed to have agreed to this from now on. I tried to write it in Latin but I just couldn't, sorry. Naturally, the following article is reproduced by kind permission of the band's office. :) Thanks Katrina. ATP-footie-team-including-band-member picture from Mr Trousers to follow soon. Honey x --- Diary of a Band - Mick Cooke We shot our first big budget video on Tuesday, for the new single, 'Legal Man'. All our previous videos have been made on a shoe string, on Super-8, a friend holding the camera. This one had a proper crew, consisting of a director (Isobel), a producer, a director of film, a camera man, lighting and sound people, a grip (I think), make-up and costume people, and various runners. We also hired several actors, including the guy who played Blake in long-running cheesy '70's sci-fi series 'Blake's Seven'. His name is Gareth, and he was a consummate professional. Other extras included two belly dancers, a couple of transvestites, two 'dandies', and a girl with a python. It was all shot in Glasgow University's very own University Union, in the Reading Room, which had been successfully transformed into a Soho gentlemen's club circa 1967. A very good place to shoot a video too, with such fine catering and cheap drink so close to hand. Back to the budget, it became increasingly obvious as the day wore on that there are several pro's and con's associated with increasing the budget of a video, as compared with the el-cheapo method. On the plus side, you end up with something that definitely looks more 'professional', which won't look quite so out of place next to the 'professional' looking videos you tend to get on the telly. It gives a boost, no matter how small, to the local film industry (most of whom are now friends with Richard, whose girlfriend is a big player in film costume cirlces). And it also gives you more of a chance to get dressed up to the nines, and get fussed over by the girls in costume and make-up. On the down side, it certainly is more impersonal, you feel much more part of the machine, a cog in the engine, an entry on the schedule. It's more like work, less like fun with your mates. And it could be considered by some as 'selling out'. Whatever, it's done, the spools are off to be processed, Isobel is off to edit it, and I for one am looking forward to seeing the final product. As I write this in Glasgow, Scotland, Stevie is in Portland, Oregon, editing the (lower budget) video for his song on the new LP, 'The Wrong Girl', and Isobel is in London, England, about to edit the 'Legal Man' video. Stuart is also in London, cutting the vinyl of the LP, as is Chris, who is attending a gig there. The Wednesday this paper is printed, Belle and Sebastian are holding a press conference in a Soho club. Then it's off to Berlin for me, Milan for Richard, and Scandinavia for Stevie, all to do European interviews. All of which leads me to say that if this is selling out, then hell, it ain't so bad. Mick Cooke +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pixiemeat2 at xxx.com Fri Apr 28 15:11:45 2000 From: pixiemeat2 at xxx.com (Helen) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:11:45 GMT Subject: Sinister: dangerous songs, definately not for children Message-ID: <20000428141145.841.qmail@hotmail.com> well there i was just drivin home close to midnight on a thursday and i had channel flicked thru every station on the radio before i heard this voice. a scottish voice, on australian radio, not entirely unusual, yet... i listened to a bit more and realised when the (tosser) announcer said 'we're talking to Richard Colburn' that it was indeed Richard Colburn. well blow me down. he was talking to someone on triple j, odd as i don't think i've ever heard them played on that station. but i listened with bated breath to what he had to say. he talked about the band and the brits and lots more stuff that i can't be bothered writing at the mo ( etc etc) and said in very very vague terms that (paraphrased here okay, don't go lynching me if this doesn't happen) 'we'd really like to come and do a tour of Australia and Japan, maybe some time next year.' now this could be plain and simple 'keep the fan base happy' talk but hey, i just assumed that i'd have to move before i saw them live. anything's a bonus. actually i had never heard an interview, funnily enough these guys don't seem to do much press :) so therefore it was kind of novel anyway. like a book. but spoken. Richard also got to program five songs or so and gave us some Stevie Wonder, The Who, Adam Ant, and John Coltrane. and one other that slips my mind. i'll remember after i press send. To add my five cents ( worth around 0.0005 pence) to the debate on promo's, personally for me its kind of inevitable to have this album talked about before I get it, (unless of course you are all willing to wait about 10 years or so when the band suddenly gets a big revival after the breakup/tragic circumstances and their albums are repackaged in a nice big 'Belle & Sebastian, The Cardy years' box set and hence gets a release here when it rollick's up the charts in the UK ) OK thats a kind of exaggeration but hey, it will take a month or two. Never mind. however the other night when they were interviewing Richard Colburn my mumbling of 'play a new track, play a new track,.... go on,..... fuck, not going to play it.' nearly caused me to slam my car into a nearby pole. so there is a danger in pre listens. right well i'll be off now. helen ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Fri Apr 28 16:41:15 2000 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 16:41:15 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Matthew, tonite, I am going to be Darcey Bussell. In-Reply-To: <007f01bf467d$26d65420$cd5f073e@com> Message-ID: Thanks to Erica's ballerina reference, there is an excuse for such an ex-topic subject.But can you believe how great my dissappointment is with this press ******(whatever) that I forgot absolutely about the Lamacq affair with the tickets, and instead my sparse free time was spent reading Covent Garden's programme for this season and realising I should be quick if I still want to get any affordable ticket for the Diaghilev revisited. I should give a ring to this Steve boy and suggest him that if he really wants to keep it cool he should be offering free tickets to watch closely Mukhamedov's pirouettes instead of luring anxious teenagers into such an obnoxious display of 'MEDIA POWER'on MayDay, what a date to be chosen, rattling of Marx and Engels' bones I could hear. That is more than enough of my disillusion on our kids' behaviour.Only the visit to Milano has made me smile and thought of poor Chris Butler,lost in the middle of some design arcade with no indie-quality entertainments around,the circus is going there,Chris! And while Lamacq was on, I had to be writing this essay on how successful youngsters are keen on downshifting and how greedy is over.I know it's over. xxx arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dougal at xxx.uk Fri Apr 28 17:02:26 2000 From: dougal at xxx.uk (Scruffy L P) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 17:02:26 +0100 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: "travis:where did it all go right"? In-Reply-To: <20000317052612.43660.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Hi. I'm mailing because of the coach trip I just had from London to Manchester. It was uneventful (for a night coach) and I had two seats to spread out on (not because of any pretending to be asleep shenanigans, either) until Birmingham. A striking girl got on and asked me if she could sit down. As usual I was commpletely silent and I just picked up the shirt that was on the chair to clear it into my "area". As I was by now quite tired (2.30 in the morning...) I turned of the reading light and leant against the window. I felt a little guilty for not talking to her, but on the otehr hand, there was no way I could start a conversation... I awoke before I realised I had slept it (over an hour later) to find her resting her head on my shoulder. She must have been woken by the same thing as me because she quickly sat upright. I still couldn't talk to her, despite the fact that the stiff way she was sitting, was making me unconfortable. And the fact I actually quite liked her resting her head on my shoulder. We spend the next two hours with our eyes closed (mostly) prettending to be asleep (I'm pretty sure she didn't drift off again). Why is it that neither of us could break the silence (everyone else on the coach seemed asleep) or even acknowledge the others presence? Anyway it wasn't until the end, neither of us broke the silence yet, but our shoulders touched, neither of us actually leaned on the other. I spent the rest of the journey thinking about what I should say. But obvouisly I didn't say it. Everytime I look back on these moments in my life, which could be considered missed oportunities (I can happiely admit to fantasiesing about how she was the perfect woman... and maybe she was.) I think, "Next time I'm going to walk up to that girl and..." it'll never happen. I'm sorry to say I haven't really been keeping up with sinister recently (for the last two months, kind of recently) Just dipping in occasionally and getting sumations from Paul A. I take it the new looper single has been discused and disected. Well just to add my 2p, Looper are GRATE (my first use of this word to the sinister populace) and the single is pretty damn good. Its no album track, if you see what I mean (IfYouSWIM). And on the subject of singles, doesn't the Belle and Sebastian single sound like the "eurotrash" theme music? Next time you hear it, pretend you are Antwon DeCone (sorry for the terrible spelling, to think I've got a french passport!) and hum along. Sorry to anyone outside England if you want to know what "eurotrash" is goto: http://194.129.77.60/listings/summary.cfm?program_id=703632 That should work... Basically it's an excuse to get breasts (of often ridiculus size) and arses (...) on to TV. By having european pornstars and bizzarre artists and performers... All the interveiws are dubbed in english, with local english accents added. It can be funny... Anyway Thats were the idea for B&S's latest single came from... No really, this guy in the pub told me... sorry... Not reading sinister is part of my new lazyness drive. That would also explain why I said I wanted to host the sinister-ville cinema and have done almost nothing for it since I started it... And why I haven't replyed to people who mailed me (I've saved them and I will get round to replying, you will have forgotten who I am, but anyway...). I'm just back from the pictures and the film was GRATE: "Boys don't cry"... In two words: "I did"... well almost. Like everyone before me I'm sorry my mail is so long, but not sorry enough to delete bits. (I doubt anyone will have made it this far anyway) Louis -- The Pretenders played a gig at Liverpool Uni. Rock cool to her very boots Chrissie dedicated a song to those mornings when you wake up with three different men's sperm on your t-shirt. 020 8540 2215 (London) 0161 256 0712 (Manchester) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dougal at xxx.uk Fri Apr 28 17:27:06 2000 From: dougal at xxx.uk (Scruffy L P) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 17:27:06 +0100 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: "travis:where did it all go right"? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry I forgot a couple of things... Firstly they are hovering in the computer cluster and I'm starting to get a headache. Secondly, do you think that if everytime I am atracted to a complete stranger I mail sinister about it, one day I'll get a reply from the person? How long will it take? It must be said at the moment I'm feeling more lonely than sinister... (God, that sounds whiney, sorry... didn't get much sleep last night... coaches and all that)... Anyway bye again. Louis -- "The experience of the cocaine consumer in the US has been too often dismal and disappointing" Cocaine consumer's handbook 0161 256 0712 (MCR) 020 8540 2215 (W'Don) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_t_opher at xxx.com Fri Apr 28 17:54:23 2000 From: chris_t_opher at xxx.com (Chris_t_opher) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 17:54:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "And you say that you're married....but you're not even in love." References: <200004271616.RAA00375@missprint.org> Message-ID: <00be01bfb133$351e7460$3502073e@gsh> [before we start, i've written this mail once already but deleted most of the content cos i wasnt happy. does that inspire confidence?] Hi First of all, congrats KenJuggle! He managed to write about something (Legal Man) in MelodyMaker and not look stupid. Quite impressive. :o) Have you ever felt like you're stuck in a rut? Waiting for something to pass before you can get on with your life. I have exams (the most important in my life) in 4 weeks. But for some reason, i seem to be in a daze 24 hours a day. I can't motivate myself and im fairly sure im going to miss the grades for Uni. The problem isnt that, it's that i really DON'T CARE. I want a change and i want it now, dammit! I dont mind working, but i want to do something that interests me. Anyway, can someone tell me how to snap out of it? Or even, tell me what you did in my position. Merci beaucoup. Anyone know anywhere on earth that's beautiful? I need a holiday on my own. Would Iceland be nice during the summer? And as another Sinister question thingy, which bands are you people in? I know quite a few listees are in bands, but i have no idea which ones. Email chris_t_opher at yahoo.com if you can be bothered. Im just curious. At this point, i'd usually talk about something else that's crap and makes very little sense. But today, i dont think i have the energy. Thanks for deleting me... Chris_t_opher Ps. Did anyone see a film directed by Alan Parker 2 weeks ago? Not Evita, it was the night before and it was about the life of Mr Kellogg. I can't remember it's name.. Funny but a bit sick at some points. Pps. Am i the only one who wants to hear Stu M sing The Thong Song? "Let meeee seeeeee that thooooong" :o) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vincewong at xxx.com Fri Apr 28 18:29:12 2000 From: vincewong at xxx.com (vincent wong) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:29:12 -0400 Subject: Sinister: read if your extremly bored In-Reply-To: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F335333C@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk> Message-ID: hey I guess I'm writing cos I'm bored and been thinking about this girl for a few weeks now, and just want to express myself to total strangers even though we're suppose be afamily or something, but lets face it, I'll probablly never meet anybody here unless by accident or something, or if I actually go to meet up, then if would only be a few of you's anyways, so here goes. Her name is Mary, and I met her in my second last year of high school in photography class, I had just transfered to this high school so I could try not to meet people cos I sort of realized I had partied my adolecents away (I suppose thats a good thing) but I was failing all my classes and I digress, so I transferd to a new school. Not knowing anybody I started talking to people and stuff, and I sort of somehow started talking to her, and thought she was a nice person to talk too, not bad looking either. But through the months we started talking more and more, and realized that we did have a lot in common, nothing to do with music, but in art, literature, dreams etc. I guess it was then when I started liking this girl when I got to know her real well ( I didn't like her at first just cos I was casually dating other girls). On one occasion we even almost had moment. We had both been invited to the art banquet held by our art teachers for the best art students in the school, and at the end theres a big party in the bar, we went off to the docks outside instead to talk cos the music inside sucked. But both of us being nervous as hell, nothiing happend. The rest of the summer, we sort of lost contact of each other, and only ran into each other every now and then, and didn't really see her until September. Again most of the year we hung out with each other, she was also editor of the yearbook that year, so I ended up joining the thing for 2 reasons, 1. she asked me, and 2 it was an excuse to spend time with her after school. But of course the time after school we never got any work done cos all we would do is sit in the office and talk til it got dark outside, and was time to leave school. As all good things come to an end, the yearbook got finished, and so did the school year, this was last year, I got accepted into my first choice of schools, and she had another year in highschool, we didn't see much of each other since, well we didn't talk for 4 years, she moved and i didn't have her forwarding number, and she's not to good with phone calls, and she had also starting dating a guy, which she took forever to tell me, I guess to spare my feelings cos she knew how I felt about her but never said anything to her. So it probablly wasn't a good idea for her to be calling me on regular basis. But I never really forgot about her, always compared her to which ever girl I was dating at the time. Then a couple of weeks ago, I went to this dive bar in the sticks, cos I was at the pub with boys, and one of friends girlfriend wanted to go to this club which played absoulte shite music like top 40 and terrible r'n'b like mariah carey or some other crap like that. So my friends and were joking about how many diseases you can catch in a place like this since everybody there were of the dirty type. For some reazson I was scoping the place out when I saw her, there she was Mary standing at the bar, she had changed her hair and let it grow, but other than that she looked the same, perfect in every way (I'm not exagerating about this part, every girl I talk to about her always mentions that she always looks perfect too). As soon I saw her I ran up to her and she immedietley recognised me and we gave each other hugs. We started talking, she had told me that she had been thinking about me, what I was doing, etc, she even knew about stuff about me I didn't think she would have known, nothing bad, just some things I had been doing with myself over the past few years. But what was funny she said she was thinking about me just the week before, and thats when I had sort of been thinking about her too, in fact I was trying to get her forwarding number off one of her friends who i was with this one nite for my other friends b-day at a concert. But drunk I forgot to ask her, but again I digress. So anyways i thought it was kind of ironic that we started to think of each other at the same time. Another thing we talked about was that I had comfessed that I had the biggest crush on her in school, and she said to me that I had a chance and didn't use it, now she's still with that other guy I mentioned earlier, and its been 4 years for them now. i'm happier for her and all, but I just want to ruin it for them, she should be with me, since I saw her first, and she liked me first, she even did a little comparison between us, and she even saw pluses on my side on things he couldn't even talk about. Another thing was that she still does have some feeling for me, she told me so. So should I move on, or keep persuing this girl, she seems so perfect for me, I've never met anybody where i could just hang out with them and talk for hours on end, and not get bored. I've had long conversation with girls before, but it always seems to be that I want to get in their pants or something, but with her its cause i honestly enjoy her company, and getting into her pants is not a priorty, but a prize for doing something right, but the better prize has already been given out and that would be her company. Does this make me sad? Lusting for a girl thats so close yet so far away. vince +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From messentw at xxx.uk Fri Apr 28 16:24:17 2000 From: messentw at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?William=20Messent?=) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 16:24:17 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: A Little Bit Of Monica Message-ID: <20000428152417.17487.qmail@web310.mail.yahoo.com> Alreet pet, Somebody said; >The only other things that make immediate impact are base dredge like "thong song" or"mambo #5." These are records that are aimed to get you to buy them NOW butnot for you to listen to in a year so your CD carraige is empty as you now turn your nose up to your discared copy of "macarena" or "achy breaky heart" you can buy whatever is the new piece of crap they are foisting on youinstead. Hmmm. Well I suppose that like a can of POPular drink is designed to be drunk quick then discarded, a record of POPular music is equally disposable. No bad thing. Anyway, 'The Thong Song' pisses over anything that Nick Drake ever recorded. Ever. It's not just pussy, Willem xxx ===== Visit The Remote Viewer homepage http://www.members.tripod.com/remoteviewer/ ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nik_ovenden at xxx.com Fri Apr 28 19:48:22 2000 From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 11:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: the perils of processing 100 emails... Message-ID: <20000428184822.3625.qmail@web2103.mail.yahoo.com> Dearest Sinistereenies, My condensed thoughts for this week, as i have been on hiatus: - Salako - Okay, they did a song which sounded like it came out of a Commodore 64 game - anyone know what the song was called? - Crush Vote - very good company, other company (Mum + friend) terribly lewd and badly behaved. - i honestly dont know what's worse, the black, fizzy kind of coke or the white, powdery kind of coke... both are addictive and (probably) awful...best not to snort the liquid though...makes you sneeze something chronic. - Idle berry scares me... - Ooberman headlining new bands @ Pilton. Fab. Are B&S confirmed as going or is that another filthy rumour? - Winter Wooksie sounds fab. On that note, does anyone have a bootleg (Gasp! the forbidden word!) of B+S @ Bowlie? I bet radio 1 cut the good songs... - I find that the sound of a car driving past as i lie awake in bed very comforting...is this just me? My crush vote poured scorn upon the idea... - 1 week till i get an lp of tigermilk, good timing since my cd has been out of my house for a considerable period now... -i just spent �80 on music...ouch. Lotsa love, Niko xxx Are snooker players the only ones who are allowed to go full-bloodedly for a three ball plant? "Le singe est la-bas maintenant...il lis un journaux, il fume un pipe...il arrete, il est dans l'autobus, il conduit l'autobus! Sandra Bullock est dans l'autobus! Il y a un bombe dans l'autobus! Il faut conduit a plus de cinquante kilometres par l'heure. Keanu Reeves est dans l'autobus! Il a pas de cheveux et Jeff Daniels est deja mort. Dennis Hopper, quelle mechante!" (That was the film 'Speed' in French, by the way, which should have been called "La Vitesse", but was called "Speed". (Eddie Izzard, Dress To Kill)) "Exsqueeze me? Baking Powder?" (The best quote ever from Wayne's World) "We'll cross the t's and dot the...lower case j's" (Wayne's World 2) Ps that was all from memory...how sad...sorry. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online and get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Fri Apr 28 20:25:43 2000 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 20:25:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Treat your teeth like you treat your woman Message-ID: <3909E5B7.F42E9D26@cs.strath.ac.uk> Nice day for Billy Mackenzie to sing like a girl. Or like me. Christ on a unicycle, how I live for SteadyMike concept posts. Roasted chimpanzees on a bed of lettuce couldn't excite me more. Unless they were accompanied by Johnny Ball showing me his hair collection. I'm in a strange mood and I have nothing to say. I think the problem is that I'm not sure whether I'm happy or depressed. Perhaps some of both. Like a pinch of joy and a dash of morbidity all wrapped up in a salad roll. I'd take it back to Marks n Sparks if I were you. I hear the Go-Betweens are back writing some stuff together. However instead of writing new songs, the lazy bastards will simply be re-interpreting one song from each of their six albums. The track listing is as follows: Your Burn, My Burn. Musings on the delights of mutual sado-masochism using blowtorches. Slide guitars slide. Interesting colours. Cattle Insane Slightly too late to be topical, but interesting nonetheless. The BSE crisis as seen from the viewpoint of the sane cows. Disturbing paper and comb solo. Crumbly. Slow Slow Music Journalists Another take on the great NME vs Melody Maker debate, the GoBees come down eventually in the middle of the fence, and suffer horrendous injuries as a result. Beguiling glockenspiel played throughout was recorded inside a septic tank. Controversial. Spring Rolls Robert complains about the new head chef in the local Chinese restaurant not being as generous with the chicken. Poignantly linked with the tale of how he lost his first girlfriend to the Cambodian car mechanic who lived on the hill. Which hill is not clear. The string quartet used all died during the recording of this song. It is not dedicated to them. The House That Jack Charlton Bought A tale of conflicting emotions set in Newcastle and Leeds, relating Jack Charlton's football career to Grant's struggle to find inner peace and sanctuary through a world of torment. Amusing rendition of 'Who's on first?' read by Lindy Morrison and Amanda Brown used as the bridge. Sleigh bells and flugelhorns build to a thrilling climax. Canoodling. Meats of Your Town Robert tells a heartbreakingly nostalgic tale of a girl he once loved who worked in a butcher's shop, and could get him discount sausages. The lyrics are oblique, but it seems that she was eventually crushed to death by a veal cutlet. Discordant harmonies whine. First use of lilac. The other tracks comprise remixes of old numbers, such as the 'Aussie Homie Brutha Fucka' remix of Lee Remick by 'Ol Dirty Bastard, and the 'Very clever but dull as dishwater' remix of Right Here by Beck. I look forward with feted breath. I should go, it's past my bedtime. I think I am depressed. I may not be. Sent with love from Alasdair xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From candelaria66 at xxx.com Fri Apr 28 20:53:24 2000 From: candelaria66 at xxx.com (Rye) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 12:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: sweet Salako Message-ID: <30522981.956951604473.JavaMail.imail@swirly> Nik, you were wondering about a salako song that sounds as though it came from a commodore 64 game...well, resisting the urge to name all of the many, many salako songs obviously influenced by video game music, i'll mention only the one i believe you're thinking of- "go ahead then, enlighten me why dontcha!" which is on a single from 1998. absolutely grate song. it's the sound of an early hip-hop dj locked in his room with only his records, a reverb pedal, and a speak n' spell. awe-inspiring. -rye. p.s. wow, Stevie's in portland??? well, at least Mick says he is. maybe i should start driving around randomly, hoping to get lucky and run into him. well, not literally. "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man." -Jebediah Springfield _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NOGOODNIK at xxx.net Fri Apr 28 21:46:49 2000 From: NOGOODNIK at xxx.net (christa) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 16:46:49 -0400 Subject: Sinister: what does a boy have that i don't? Message-ID: <002501bfb152$e15d83a0$4d89fd3f@e44e9> i just watched a really good movie that i want to share with you lot. perhaps this is list abuse, but i'll keep it short and sweet. its a chinese movie called "the king of masks" and i thought it was really quite beautiful. i highly recommend it to each and every one of you who appreciates good cinema, which i trust is all of you. there has been a disturbing lack of good films in my life lately, but i believe this is taking a turn for the better. i am also recommending "the red dwarf" and "twin falls idaho". since its friday, this will give all of you something to do this weekend besides get totally drunk and have insanely wild sex with total strangers. grrrr! purrr! umm, oh yes... list relevance: the sea and cake and belle & sebastian are both REALLY good bands. fast as you can, .christa. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From porterww at xxx.edu Fri Apr 28 22:37:37 2000 From: porterww at xxx.edu (Will Porter) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 16:37:37 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: Satisfaction expressed in quantity: a softer cone. Message-ID: There has been an alarming trend of late of people not saying nice things about me. Which is not to say they have been saying mean things, only that they're not saying nice things. This sort of behavior is, of course, unacceptable. Now, on to business: I am almost done with school. In like 3 weeks, I'll have my master's degree and I'll make rude gestures toward Texas out the back window of my car as I speed off to civilization. The funny thing is that I was just beginning to get comfortable here. Oh well. I've noticed a shocking lack of posts about girls being scary. What's up with that? Are we still twee or what? Because if you're all out being bold, I'm going to feel terribly left out. Not enough to do anything about it, mind. But left out. In case it's not yet apparent, I really haven't got anything to say. I think I say that in all my posts. Which are all just as dull as this one. Don't let the slick packaging fool you, kids. umm okay bye Will +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keleidoscopic at xxx.com Fri Apr 28 23:20:39 2000 From: keleidoscopic at xxx.com (Chris Paluch) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 15:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: So much unrequited love, so little time Message-ID: <20000428222039.20011.qmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Sinister people, It is a particularly hot day today in the wonderfully dull area of central Illinois. I am leaving the area of cornfields and concrete in a few weeks, going out with a great sixties pop bang(getting to see apples in stereo and essex green twice:), but having enough feeling of unrequited love to take up a life time. When I first got into Belle and Sebstian, introduced to me by a friend who shall remain nameless, I was at a point of absolute social misery. I realized that people I knew and thought to be friends were jerks, and was left behind alone. The person who introduced me to them of course later became a good friend. Then as I became less miserable, I had this bad habbit of falling in love with people that I barely even knew. The fact that being introduced to a band in the music section of Barnes and Nobles represents a positive turning point in my social life is something of enigma even to me. So, now I am leaving in a few weeks with being educated for four years at some midwestern private university, and now I am begining to better know people that I should have talked to a long while ago, and that feeling of love is turning into one of just a need of a short term frienship before i go. I am begining to feel better that my love for some individuals went unrequited, and I am moving on once again. Silence to can be comforting. I am begining not to regret that inherant shyness that I have had since I was fairly small. There are those times in which a close circle of friends matters more. Though it is getting more painful to leave good friends behind. Now I know why I listen to B&S at times all alone... Off to Chicago and then Vermont, where winter will hopefully be kind to me. Sorry for this long semi personal letter, but I kinda felt it was necessary in some way. Sorry for saying sorry. Chris Paluch ===== The sole member of the Lost Letter Society A society dedicated to turtle lovers everywhere. Http://www.mp3.com/LostLetterSociety __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online and get email alerts with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kpc98c at xxx.UK Sat Apr 29 01:38:46 2000 From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 01:38:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Weeing Over Peehole Message-ID: <200004290040.BAA15255@missprint.org> This week's melody maker has a track by track review of all the songs on the Foldyourhandschildyouwalklikeapeasant album... and it looks suspeciously like the post from EliotNew... now now have they been nicking ideas from our list?????? Of course, talking about melody maker this week, I ........ Ah! And just as I was gonna boast about my appearance on Melody Maker alongside StuM, that annoying chris_t_opher guy beat me to it. I now hate you forever and you will be banned from drinking RedBull for a week so no stimulation for the body and mind for you young man :-) They've edited out my slating of Steps and S Club 7 though, which I'm not happy about. Nevertheless, this moment of fame is going to be momentously framed, hung up and shown to my grandchildren... and they will all see how attractive I used to look compared to Noel Gallagher. A CD looking thing was also printed on that mm page.. if this is indeed what the CD will look like then GRATE!!! It looks wicked it's like all baige/cream/flesh colour with BELLE AND SEBASTIAN written in green and then text below in black with loads of useless info there just to look cool... it looks all modern and new age and professional and stuff... who said B&S aren't going uptown?? On a spree of backwards life living madness I have just heard the "Eurotrash" theme tune on Channel 4 for the first time... and by George, the resemblence!!!!! I think I'm gonna have to start watching Eurotrash now and sing Legal Man over their theme tune and confuse the hell out of all my mates... unless of course B&S becomes real famous then they'd all think I'm really cool (which they do already, of course) Happy MayDay in a couple of days and remember to play Mayfly. Vodkas and Redbulls (but just straight vodkas for c_t_o for this week) Ken ====================================================================== Take Judy, with her bow and arrow, she's a mastermind Too frumpy for the teenage population of her time Car coat, she has a quilted jacket with a hood if it rains Big pockets for the pharmaceuticals she takes to fix her brain. - Belle & Sebastian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From secretmysterydate at xxx.com Sat Apr 29 04:03:41 2000 From: secretmysterydate at xxx.com (brand new shoes) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 23:03:41 EDT Subject: Sinister: girls are still scary Message-ID: <20000429030341.76149.qmail@hotmail.com> don't worry will girls are still totally scary i am terrified trembling really... mmm yes love to everyone sam ps. i played music tonight with Kate from Kitty Pryde and a keyboardist called lesley. grate stuff i swear. we'll be called "the ready set" look for us in your town :) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sat Apr 29 10:10:22 2000 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 10:10:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Glasgow Meetup - A reminder... Message-ID: <000901bfb1ba$c2b46960$6d89183e@default> Hi all. Ally told me to remind you all, so here we go... George Square, 11:30am, Saturday May 6th. It's a picnic-type affair, so if you want to bring food, do so, please :) We'll all be heading along to Kelvingrove Park under Ally's guidance. George Square is just so everyone can find their way easily Ally informs me that we have a couple of special guests in the shape of "Martin Robinson and Matt Powell (AKA drunken Matt)" please come. See y'all there. --Jason Andreas Silent whispers in my head, Never heard but always said. ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Sat Apr 29 11:50:20 2000 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 10:50:20 GMT Subject: Sinister: legal betting Message-ID: <20000429105020.67046.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello everybody. Aaagh! I need the WHOLE list's help on this one. I was having an argument with my friend yesterday about the merits of B&S. He said something along the lines of "but it doesn't matter anyway because they're shite and nobody likes them". Then in a fit of passion, I said back to him, "OH YEAH? I bet they'll go top 20 when they release their new single". He says, "Fine then, twenty quid says they won't make it" I say, "Can we do ten? It's just, y'know, I'm a bit skint and all" He says, "Yeah you're right actually, so am I. Fair enough then. A tenner says they won't make top 20" I say, "Done". He says, "Done" Then I suddenly realise what I've done. There are two ways of winning this bet. Either I hijack Crapital radio and force them to play it to the teenyboppers all day, or I buy 1000 copies myself. OR... Everybody on the list buys two copies each? Ahhhh. Maybe it could work.... Oh well.... Sorry for the pointlessness of this post. love, Sam.x P.S. Keep those votes for your favourite song coming in. If there is sufficient call for the list to be posted again I will do so. So far I've had about 70 votes.... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com Sat Apr 29 16:12:53 2000 From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 15:12:53 GMT Subject: Sinister: Voted in the poll? THEN DON'T READ THIS Message-ID: <20000429151253.80611.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi there. Sorry to post so much recently, I really am. And I know that Honey is not impressed my people who post too prolifically, but I this post is important to the whole voting thing. If you haven't voted for your favourite poll, here is a copy of the post I put up on Tuesday. Please read it. Still interested? Good. I reckon that it would be a lot easier to number the songs, so that then you could just put them in the subject line, so I wouldn�t have to open 1200 emails. So people, if you want to have your say in this great democracy, please email me privately (samwaltonyeah at hotmail.com) and simply write on the subject line �Vote: x, y, z� where x is your favourite song, y your second favourite and z your third. Remember, if you don�t vote, you have no right to complain about the result� If for some reason your favourite song doesn�t appear on the list below, please write it the body of he email, and put something that suggests that you have on the subject line, and I�ll open the email. Got that? Good. Any problems, email me privately. Here�s the list then� 1. The State That I Am In 2. Expectations 3. She�s Losing It 4. You�re Just A Baby 5. Electronic Renaissance 6. I Could Be Dreaming 7. We Rule The School 8. My Wandering Days Are Over 9. I Don�t Love Anyone 10. Mary Jo 11. The Stars Of Track And Field 12. Seeing Other People 13. Me And The Major 14. Like Dylan In The Movies 15. The Fox In The Snow 16. Get Me Away From Here, I�m Dying 17. If You�re Feeling Sinister 18. Mayfly 19. The Boy Done Wrong Again 20. Judy And The Dream Of Horses 21. It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career 22. Sleep The Clock Around 23. Is It Wicked Not To Care? 24. Ease Your Feet Off In The Sea 25. A Summer Wasting 26. Seymour Stein 27. A Space Boy Dream 28. Dirty Dream Number 2 29. The Boy With The Arab Strap 30. Chickfactor 31. Simple Things 32. The Rollercoaster Ride 33. Dog On Wheels 34. The State That I Am In (Demo Version) 35. String Bean Jean 36. Belle & Sebastian 37. Lazy Line Painter Jane 38. You Made Me Forget My Dreams 39. Photo Jenny 40. A Century Of Elvis 41. A Century Of Fakers 42. Le Pastie De La Bourgeousie 43. Beautiful 44. Put The Book Back On The Shelf 45. This Is Just A Modern Rock Song 46. I Know Where The Summer Goes 47. The Gate 48. Slow Graffiti 49. The Loneliness Of A Middle-Distance Runner That�s all I think. There may be some which aren�t on any EP�s or LP�s, but if there are, please tell me. Oh, and by the way, don�t just vote for the most obscure, vote for THE BEST. PLEASE: No clever entries off FLAPPYCLAP, and I think it would be nice to have a list finalised by 22nd May, so, please no waiting around for Legal Man to come out so that it or Dickslap or the other one makes it in. I�ve deliberately excluded Legal Man, because the idea is to work out the favourite so far, from the beginning to now. Sorry if this strikes you as very anal, but I like doing these kinds of things. Looking forward to a barrage of entries�. Love, Sam.x ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk Sat Apr 29 19:35:18 2000 From: amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk (amy_jackson0) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 19:35:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: warning, other bands mentioned in this post References: <802568CF.0034271E.00@uksmtp01.ha.uk.sbphrd.com> Message-ID: <003e01bfb209$acba3f00$ae083c3e@tinypc> hello everyone, how are you all? Andi said........<> aah, No Danger, sublime! (my new fav word of the week)......I bought The Great Eastern in Chester, the day before I had to leave and do my marathon 6-and-a-bit hour train journey to Inverness ON MY OWN!! i listened to it 4 times straight through, and how much do i love it? a lot. "american trilogy" is superb too, btw.... oops, i know we aren't supposed to talk about other bands much on here, maybe i should shut up now eh? i'm off to tin the park this year, i wanna see looper, but they're on on saturday, and as i only have enough money for a day ticket, i have to choose between my beloved idlewild and travis or looper and JJ72.......i know what i should do, but will i do it??? better put some b&s content in..... *o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o well, i love legal man, and i really cannot wait for the new album.....i dunno about them getting all big and successful, it's like i can't imagine it y'know? where i live, it's as if b&s are my own wee special band, no one else has heard of them so i feel very privileged, and a bitty cooler than everyone else. if b&s suddenly do the top of the pops thing, everyone else will know about them, and while i'd love b&s to be really loved and respected by lots of people and for them to get successful, i worry that this success will lose some of their magic, y'know?? i dunno, maybe i'm being a bit of an indie snob (as per usual) but that's just me......i don't really mean it, i think b&s could be the band to bring back some decent music to the charts, i'm just moaning..... *o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o still haven't done any revision, my higher exams start in 25 days, so i am mildly worried......oh well, whatever is meant to happen will happen, nowt i can do about it.... adios for now m'dears.... littlebelleXXX (making noise since 1983) sorry this is so crap, i always wish my posts were as cool as Erica MacArthur's or JenOwl's, how do they do it? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From secretmysterydate at xxx.com Sat Apr 29 20:08:24 2000 From: secretmysterydate at xxx.com (brand new shoes) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 15:08:24 EDT Subject: Sinister: Sam's Rawk-Out tour of Europe!!!! Message-ID: <20000429190824.19591.qmail@hotmail.com> you've waited so long, I know, but finally, yes finally, Sam Wheeler, that indi-rawk, pop, folk sensation is going to start his European tour!!!! ...toting only a video camera, a 35mm, three changes of cloths, and his acoustic guitar, the young sam wheeler looked out on the landscape of opportunity, known as the vastness of europe. with only a few definite plans scattered across the land, young wheeler had a sparkle in his eye, and a list, a sinister list, of people and places to visit and to which, bring a bit of joy. :) ... Oh, not immediately mind you, but the ticket is confirmed: May 25th, this boy is hopping a plane at JFK in New York and touching down, leaving a crator in the fields of Heathrow!!!! Get ready all you crazy euro-folk, he just might be coming to your town.... oh yes. i cannot wait maybe i will see some of you on the other side of the pond until then loves, young sam wheeler ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kschaffe at xxx.Edu Sat Apr 29 21:00:01 2000 From: kschaffe at xxx.Edu (Schaffenberger, Kristen ) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 15:00:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Boys are scary. Message-ID: So, the not-often-discussed Will writes: >Now, on to business: >I am almost done with school. In like 3 weeks, I'll have my master's >degree and I'll make rude gestures toward Texas out the back window of >my >car as I speed off to civilization. The funny thing is that I was just >beginning to get comfortable here. Oh well. Boo. I finish school even sooner, but I don't leave Texas until September. Nevertheless, London awaits! I'm most looking forward to arriving on foreign shores to meet and greet the UK sinister kids. So, I don't think girls are scary. But I do think boys are a little scary. Case in point: my birthday was last week. I've been seeing a boy on an extremely casual level, and he was rather rude at my birthday party (e.g., drinking a little more than he could handle, acting relatively silly in all respects, etc.). I saw him yesterday for the first time since the party, and he's all grinning and proud of himself, and he's like, "I got you something!" I, of course, assume that he's off and bought me Pokemon: The First Movie or some loveable plush toy in the $20-$30 range. Needless to say, I'm puzzled when he hands me a small box. Inside is this absolutely lovely diamond tennis bracelet. I later find out from a mutual friend that he worked extra days and put away a lot of extra money to buy it. Without question, it's absolutely lovely, and it was an incredibly sweet gesture. At the same time, though, he's like, "Well, here you go" with the whole thing and acting all casual and.. and... well, I think it's just plain weird. Moreover, when I thanked him for said bracelet, he said, "Oh, there's no need to thank me. I know you only like really nice things, so I thought I should get you something really nice." Hmm. Boys are weird. In all the best ways. Off to mail graduation invitations and announcements. I want a pink dress for my college graduation party, but I've had no luck in finding one. Any suggestions? X, Kristen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather-boa at xxx.com Sat Apr 29 21:15:25 2000 From: feather-boa at xxx.com (feather boa) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:15:25 -0700 Subject: Sinister: do you have the urge Message-ID: sometimes just to run around screaming? only i do. *shrugs* legal man sounds like a strange cross between norweigan wood and the eurotrash theme and it's not on the album. i like the model it is very nice. are other people going to 200 troubled teenagers? pip pip, FB X *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kpc98c at xxx.UK Sun Apr 30 03:33:10 2000 From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 03:33:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: if you're feeling sinister Message-ID: <200004300234.DAA27806@missprint.org> sorry for the third post inside a week, but I'm hideously drunk so I don't care hahahaha.. I'm really sorry, it's just that I just went to this party and this girl I really fancied started dancing and hugging with someone else, and then they disappeared and then all my friend's left me and I ended up walking two miles home on my own, so I'm not feeling that particularly jolly... if you have any conscience then please send me a sympathy letter so that at least I'll feel better tomorrow... I know sending utterly negative posts like this is a very bastardly behaviour, but if I didn't type this I'd probably have killed myself so I'll just be crying loads now, thanks/sorry bye. Ken ====================================================================== Take Judy, with her bow and arrow, she's a mastermind Too frumpy for the teenage population of her time Car coat, she has a quilted jacket with a hood if it rains Big pockets for the pharmaceuticals she takes to fix her brain. - Belle & Sebastian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Sun Apr 30 04:17:45 2000 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 15:17:45 +1200 Subject: Sinister: free Mojave 3 album if anyone wants it Message-ID: <005e01bfb253$53958200$e66137d2@computer> hey kids, I have a copy of Mojave 3's "Out of Tune" album (featuring B&S's Mick Cooke on trumpet) if anyone would like it. (Actually, I have two, which is why I'm giving one away. I liked it so much that I splurged for the American version which has one extra track, hence my old copy is now without a home.) It's a marvelous record. The CD is a record company promo - it has a cover/back etc, and is in a jewel case, but doesn't have a full booklet like the one you buy - only a cover. Anyway, the first person who sends me a nice e-mail with their address can have it. (But please only mail me if you actually want it, not because you want to trade it in to your local sencond hand record store, or sell it on Ebay or anything.) Cheers, Lawrence +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Sun Apr 30 11:20:41 2000 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:20:41 +1200 Subject: Sinister: the Mojave 3 CD is gone, sorry Message-ID: <008801bfb28d$e1ba9ea0$ad6137d2@computer> sorry to spam the list again, but the Mojave 3 CD is well and truly gone. So please don't mail me about it, because it was really sad sending out e-mails to everyone who mailed me after it had gone. Lawrence +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Sun Apr 30 12:18:36 2000 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (STOUT RJ) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 12:18:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Switch off the immersion heater before the house explodes! Message-ID: <390C168C.658093E8@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> Hello Just a few thoughts on the issue of B+S becoming P!O!P!ular. "That old chestnut? I'm going home." No, hold on a second! I was just wondering if it really happens that often, that a really good band that's been in obscurity for years suddenly becomes popular. Most bands that have been around for a while before becoming famous haven't actually been that great before they became famous. Take Pulp, pre-Countdown, for instance. In theory, if the world suddenly "discovers" Belle and Sebastian, they'll also discover the older albums so they'll become enormous. But then, I don't think this ever happens, really, does it? Maybe you'll know. I don't know much about pop music meself. Robin x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eculb at xxx.uk Sun Apr 30 13:17:24 2000 From: eculb at xxx.uk (eculb at xxx.uk) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 13:17:24 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Subject: Sinister: an intro (sort of) and B&S Q&A question Message-ID: hello, this is sort of a (re)introduction because its been so long since i last posted, so many changes, so many new faces! im sure youre all lovely! um, well this is JAmes speaking, the lovable rogue, i dont know if anyone remembers me, a photo of me posing in a park resides in the Sinister galleries somewhere...um long time B&S fan goes without saying.. Also, i just wanted to know if any Sinister people were going along to the Q&A session on wednesday? if anyone would like to meet up beforehand please mail me sharpish; also i* may* have a spare ticket if anyone is interested, depending on how many i get through the post from the radio 1 competition.. okay, well thats it really, back to studying for finals (aaargh) JAmes +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From glen.mitchell at xxx.com Sun Apr 30 14:02:47 2000 From: glen.mitchell at xxx.com (Glen) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 14:02:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: thank the lord for toast B&S classic album! Message-ID: <000f01bfb2a4$7c93b9a0$64b8073e@oemcomputer> Hey After popping down to my local Our Price I noticed they had a sale on. Then after a time I found they only had one B&S album, TBWTAS for £9.99, which I have so I didn't buy it. Instead I bought "The 3 E.P.s" by the Beta Band, which I thought would be a pretty good album. It is simply grate, I haven't stopped listening to it. So I urge you to go to Our Price and buy it for £6.99. That was a rather pethetic sell, wasn't it. Anyway the point of this is that the sale was on "Classic Albums" Therefore, the world has now confirmed what we all already knew, TBWTAS is a CLASSIC album! After reading this, I now realise that this post is the most pathetic, pointless one ever. And it's probably list abuse. Glen thank the lord for toast +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nessa_fmjod at xxx.com Sun Apr 30 14:20:29 2000 From: nessa_fmjod at xxx.com (nessa) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 06:20:29 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Switch off the immersion heater before the house explodes! Message-ID: > I was >just wondering if it really happens that often, that a really good band >that's been in obscurity for years suddenly becomes popular. Most bands >that have been around for a while before becoming famous haven't >actually been that great before they became famous. Take Pulp, >pre-Countdown, for instance. In theory, if the world suddenly >"discovers" Belle and Sebastian, they'll also discover the older albums >so they'll become enormous. But then, I don't think this ever happens, >really, does it? Maybe you'll know. I don't know much about pop music >meself. sorry for the big huge quote especially as honey was rapping us on the toes for posting too many long posts but the thing is after common people I remember jarvis complaining about people who he wrote common people and misshapes AGAINST coming along to pulp gigs and singing away, singing a song that basically said they were crap but not getting it. And he slightly lost it afterwards, did he not? I doubt that will happen with b+s... but in a way think about it... if most people had the chance for fame and fortune they'd go out and grab it... anyway, most of the people being slightly dubious about all of this *incl. myself* are the same people who say the charts are shite... and they are shite. its not as if b+s have sold their souls away to sony or lovely arms dealer associated *so I've heard...* emi or anything... they just want a slice of the cake, they want people to hear them. And it is their cake. And it is tasty. hmmm nessa XXXXX ******************************************************************** ****************** get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ELZober at xxx.com Sun Apr 30 17:40:13 2000 From: ELZober at xxx.com (ELZober at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 12:40:13 EDT Subject: Sinister: Selling Out? Message-ID: hello all.... i don't post much - but i thought i'd drop my worthless two pence into the fraggle about whether or not B&S are selling out...... i suppose that i'm a little clueless as to how this notion came about - what is it they are doing different this time? here's a thought - have a little faith - when the merchandise was leaving jeepster everyone was up in arms about how *they* were going commercial and we'd have to pay too much for our beloved badges...... that is until it came out that they were moving the merchandise closer to home and giving it to the lovely Katrina to run - then.... all was very quiet on the Sinister front..... sometimes this list is just like a woman in menopause in that everything is the worst thing possible and the worst thing is only a prelude to tomorrow...... talk about melodrama folks..... lest we forget that this is the bands 4th album - plus there are all the EP's to consider - since day one the music community at large has championed their arrival - so is it any wonder that they are becoming increasingly more popular with the masses? and is this a bad thing? should we all stay as we were four years ago - with no personal or professional growth? is everyone on this list stagnated to one place? this much i know isn't true as there are several very successful people on this list.... my point is - let's ride this out...... if they get *huge* you can say affectionately, "i knew them when...." and ..... on the plus side - those "original" t-shirts and badges will be worth good money in twenty years time - then we can all appear on VH1 in a B&S "Before They Were Rock Stars" Special....... elle +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Sun Apr 30 15:13:07 2000 From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 10:13:07 -0400 Subject: Sinister: "travis:where did it all go right"? In-Reply-To: References: <20000317052612.43660.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <200004301853.OAA27845@s1.optonline.net> On 28 Apr 00, at 17:02, Scruffy L P muttered into a little tape recorder: > Hi. > I'm mailing because of the coach trip I just had from London to > Manchester. It was uneventful (for a night coach) and I had two seats to > spread out on (not because of any pretending to be asleep shenanigans, > either) until Birmingham. this is the single most twee, b+s-characteristic thing i've ever read on the list... bravo! i'll have more to post later... but i have to go write some essays instead of just playing interactive fiction games all day, ok? - adam aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+