From declan63 at xxx.com  Tue Aug  1 01:04:41 2000
From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:04:41 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Under more cars than there are Ls in British Leyland
References: <LAW-F271KMQAjEFWbdM00004900@hotmail.com>
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From: "P F" <pinefox at xxx.com>
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Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 6:56 PM
Subject: Sinister: Under more cars than there are Ls in British Leyland


>
> This list has fair exploded into a forest fire of action in the last week or
> so. Heck, I was close to excited. I'd like to respond to all that
> fascination, but first I want to tell you some old, and ageing, news. It's a
> tiny vignette about how Stephie T met one of his heroes, and I was lucky
> enough to be in the wings. Not in Wings, mind. That would have been *really*
> lucky. For those who don't remember Stephie, his last mail to sinister was
> something about sabre-toothed tigers and the toothlessness of Emile Heskey.
> It moved me at the time. I ended up in South Norwood.
>


well, i've got the jam, elvis costello (who wrote "less than zero" first, mind you), the magnetic fields (obviously), lou reed, the
smiths and stereolab.  possibly pavement also.  what am i missing?  are you trying to drive me mad?

i arch my eyebrow to you, mr. P.  brilliant.

jay, who is left-handed but possibly not heroic, whose mother has started dating a major appliance, not a name (imagine my horror!),
and had his head done in by the best date of his life, with every wonderful, crucial detail except for the fact that she had nothing
to do since her live-in boyfriend was out of town, thus negating the existence of said date

"caroline wheeler's birthday present was made entirely out of the skins of dead american rock singers, which was highly unfortunate"


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From koolaidwino at xxx.com  Tue Aug  1 01:57:32 2000
From: koolaidwino at xxx.com (brad !)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:57:32 EDT
Subject: Sinister: on being new to submission and the dominant culture
Message-ID: <20000801005732.68318.qmail@hotmail.com>

>we are, to one extent or another, following "the left hand path"/"feeling 
>sinister"

i don't know about all of you, but i personally "feel sinister" about three 
times a day. five on weekends and holidays. but i do it with the right hand. 
i'm a walking contradiction.

i quite liked this post that i'm replying to and that i can't remember the 
author's name of. but at the same time, while i was reading it, i had this 
strange desire to twirl my finger around my ear and go "cuckoo!".....and i 
probably woulda if someone had been here to witness it, but since i was 
alone, i decided to store that needed energy for next time i decide to "feel 
sinister"

that television show "big brother" really sucks, doesn't it?

-brad
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From aconover at xxx.net  Tue Aug  1 02:05:19 2000
From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:05:19 -0400
Subject: Sinister: we have heaven
Message-ID: <200008010104.VAA23081@s1.optonline.net>

as i write this, i am listening to that antithesis of sinister: prog 
rock! yes, my pop old Yes album, Fragile. i admit it, i was nuts for 
yes in middle school. i actually own this album on cassette (before i 
even got a cd player, imagine that!) oh dear, it's so embarassing. i 
can say though, that before yes got all fey and floaty they were 
rockin', yeah, punk stylie. ok, not quite, but still. this is still a 
pretty good album. and who can forget that incredible year when jon 
anderson quit and the buggles joined the band, giving us such gems as 
"machine messiah" and "tempus fugit"? 

ahh... yes, i am proud to admit it... i saw yes at jones beach here 
on long island... they were old and fat, except for the new boys they 
had grafted on who were just tykes. it wasn't until years later than 
i learned yes was a "stoner band"... all my youthful love and 
idealism broken in a single swoop! ah...

so that was my "yes post". wait later for my "i need a friend post" 
quickly followed by my "cry for help post", all of which culminates 
tragically in my three-hour long song cycle entitled "songs of death 
and rebirth", subtitled, "an interactive traipse". thank you.

- adam

aconover at optonline.net
Tempus Fugit is at:
 http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html
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From low_fi25 at xxx.com  Tue Aug  1 05:42:22 2000
From: low_fi25 at xxx.com (Jacob Laurent)
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:42:22 GMT
Subject: Sinister: House of Love.....
Message-ID: <20000801044222.48692.qmail@hotmail.com>

>All those who liked the house of Love say Aye!
>

aye!

i saw house of love open for peter murphy's
deep tour in august of 1990. if i recall,
'the beatles & the stones ' was their best
song then. i haven't heard anything from them
since though. what are they doin'?

curious,
jacob

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From belle1974 at xxx.com  Tue Aug  1 07:20:59 2000
From: belle1974 at xxx.com (Jennifer Hjelm)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:20:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: la meet up planned!
Message-ID: <20000801062059.5995.qmail@web703.mail.yahoo.com>

hello all you fine folks!

i haven't posted in ages because well i haven't had
anything interesting to add to the conversations. 
just been a lurker i reckon.  well i did want to let
those who live in the la area to know that many of us
have planned to meet up after the dandy warhols show
on wed at canters restaurant on fairfax.  we haven't
had a proper meet up since the looper show last year
so this will be a good chance to say hello to each 
other and eat some yummy food.  if you want to know
more about it, you can e-mail me at
belle1974 at yahoo.com or read the meet up board on the
jeepster site! :o)

cheers!

jennifer juniper

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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Tue Aug  1 10:39:18 2000
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 11:39:18 +0200
Subject: Sinister: Looper NME
Message-ID: <017101bffb9c$63bf13c0$c687243e@itjfvkli>

Alarmingly positive review of Looper at:
http://www.nme.com/reviews/reviews/20000731132314.html
for those who are interested.

Has Trousers joined The Economist? All of a sudden there are articles about
J-Pop and Hello Kitty and lots of sly music references in the photo captions
and amusing headlines.

Peter

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From acook at xxx.uk  Tue Aug  1 16:03:37 2000
From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996)
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 16:03:37 +0100
Subject: Sinister: He could lick 'em by smiling
Message-ID: <3986E6C9.767D8FBE@cs.strath.ac.uk>

Sleep is the thief of time, Steven. Why then, do I sleep all day, yet
still find the time to write such rubbish? And why do I still feel
tired? Questions without answers are like sheep without pastures.
Confusion reigns supreme. But on to the matter in hand. Specifically,
the following quote:

"Ignorance and spiders should always be given a second chance in Pop".

Who said that? Many of you will not know, but in fact it was Lou Reed,
in my dream the other night. So what did he mean? Well, ignorance is
bliss, so they (whoever *they* may, or indeed, may not be) say. Being an
ignoramous of the highest order myself, I live in a state of perpetual
happiness of course. Which makes me entirely miserable. Which reminds me
of my argument for the non-existence of Heaven (and therefore God?), but
that's another espousing for another time, and, possibly, place. And if
Heaven never existed, at least Heavenly did. 

But why relate ignorance to pop music? Many pop stars have shown
misjudgement at one time or another, but is this ignorance or merely
lapse? Opinions to the usual address. Now on to spiders.

Spiders, it might be said, get a "raw deal". Feared by many, reared by
few, they have been mistaken for insects on many occasions. This annoys
them greatly, so I'm told. But remember folks, they're more scared of
you. But spiders in pop? The Spiders From Mars are the obvious example,
but what became of them once Ziggy bit the proverbial dust? Did they
return to their home planet? The facts would seem to suggest no, for no
traces of any Spiders were found by the Pathfinder missions. Although
they could be adept at hiding...

No, far more likely that they found a new planet to settle on, one where
glam rock had yet to be invented, and they would be hailed as pioneering
visionaries. Every spiders's dream. Perhaps they are out there today,
wowing interstellar audiences with the riff from "Devilgate Drive". I'm
almost wiping the tears from my eyes. Almost.

Alasdair xx

PS 'Spiders' was also an album by Space, if memory serves. Told you they
got a raw deal.

PPS It's a simile.
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From nickgillespie at xxx.com  Tue Aug  1 16:47:51 2000
From: nickgillespie at xxx.com (n|ck g)
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 15:47:51 GMT
Subject: Sinister: the ever decaying sense of being
Message-ID: <LAW2-F229JuFnY14of7000059bf@hotmail.com>

i'm not quite sure why i am writing this. for i know none of you and, in 
fact, don't even live on the same continent as most of you, but still, 
because of my own lack of friends, i feel the need to just be heard.

yesterday i went to the doctor's after delaying for about a month. they 
performed hours of tests and sent me home to sit by myself engulfed in fear. 
they don't know if what they found is cancer or just an abnomality within 
the limits of normality. since i am only 21 this is quite surreal and 
frightning for me.

this brings to mind many questions about my own life and those around me. 
what is it at the end of our lives that we will want to look back on and 
appreciate. i know that it won't be material possessions. nor will it be how 
much money we made. instead i think that it will be what we have experienced 
and seen. possibly the question of happiness will come into play. how then 
does one go about obtaining happiness? if one was so inclined how would they 
go about becoming this way and maintaining this state of mind? obviously no 
one can answer these questions but our selves. i just thought that i might 
make at least one person re-evaluate their life. i have been. i have come to 
learn that nothing in this world means shit if it doesn't mean anything to 
you. everyone knows that reality is realitive. i may not be living my life 
to the fullest but i can say that i am trying, which is more than most on 
this earth can say. hope that i might have made some of you think and 
possibly brighten your day for doing so.

nw

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From sav_one at xxx.com  Tue Aug  1 17:47:14 2000
From: sav_one at xxx.com (Darren Savage)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:47:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: Loneliness MP3
Message-ID: <20000801164714.7815.qmail@web114.yahoomail.com>

Wow, I can't thank David enough for this; I absolutely
adore this song and he's right it's a fab version,
I've been playing it at everyone all day and I feel
dead happy.

Now then, I'm trying to put a group together to play
in a charity battle of the bands competition in
October.  It's going to be somewhere in London and I
though it would be ace if any of you fanced joining in
and playing decent songs, rather than the usual
compromised set list of obvious crowd pleasers.  We
need to have 50% of the group working in the media but
the rest can be friends.  So far we have a very
average guitar player(me), a really good drummer, a
keyboard person, another rhythm guitarist and that's
it.  Apart from vocals and bass, we really need
someone's who is actually good on the guitar and some
strings and horns, or at least a trumpet player would
be nice.  To qualify for the final we need to play a
20 minute set to someone form NAB's (the charity),
which must include an original composition.

If anyone can help out, either fancy a go playing or
writing or whatever then please mail me.

Hope you can help

Cheerio

Darren 
--- David White <david at djwhite47.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:
> Greetings folks,
> 
> Just a quick post to let you know that I have just
> created an MP3 file of
> "Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner" recorded
> when the band appeared on
> Sky TVs Apocalypse Tube thing last year. For those
> who have never heard the
> song or even those who have heard the current MP3
> that's doing the rounds, I
> would strongly suggest downloading this one cos it's
> very good quality and
> of course it's well performed by the band
> themselves, (and the lyrics are
> much easier to hear than in any other MP3 of the
> song I've heard.)
> 
> To download it visit my site
> www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk and
> either click on the link on the home page or visit
> the discography, select
> Unreleased tracks then click the download.
> 
> On a related subject, I am introducing a Clubs and
> events page in my site
> soon, so if you run a club which would interest B&S
> fans anywhere in the
> world or you are organisaing an event (picnic or
> whatever) then send me an
> email with time, date, location and all the other
> details and I'll give it a
> link.
> 
> That's all for now,
> 
> Dave
> david at belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk
> 
>
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From dougal at xxx.uk  Tue Aug  1 21:51:31 2000
From: dougal at xxx.uk (Scruffy L P)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:51:31 +0100 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: The boy with the 'boy with the arab strap' arab strap
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0008012141500.24880-100000@mrbusy.compsoc.man.ac.uk>

   Hello.
I've been talking with a freind of mine and we've decided to go into
business making embroidered arab straps. The first will feature our
interpretation of the cover of the Belle and sebastian album.
Anyone want one?
In terms of price, I'll except any offers.

If anyone wants any specialized ones, I'll do my best.

I'm hoping to replace the upsidedown badges :-)

Louis "not so much a lurker as too lazy to keep up with all his mail"

PS, can anyone think of a way of decorating cock-rings?
Pps I hope that the penultimate word in the above sentance doesn't count
   towards the body parts pictures.
Ppps, if anyone can give any hints or instructions about embroidery that
would be good too.

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From rtoad at xxx.net  Tue Aug  1 22:51:59 2000
From: rtoad at xxx.net (Rob Lorenson)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:51:59 -0700
Subject: Sinister: If Belle and Sebastian were Japanese and 14 year old girls...
Message-ID: <3986E40F.24425.79B358@localhost>

... Their name would be "Otome Pasuta."  Yup, that's right.  I was 
watching "Music Express," which is a J-pop show, and this group 
comes on, and their music sounded like something B & S would 
do, only if they got sex & age changes and started singing in 
Japanese.
=========================================================
"Your hopes, your dreams, your paradise 
Heroes, idols cracked like ice"
 -- Joy Division, "Auto-Suggestion"

"Just for one moment, thought I'd found my way
Destiny unfolded, I watched it slip away...
Just for one moment, I heard somebody call
Looked beyond the day in hand, there's nothing there at all"
 -- Joy Division, "Twenty-Four Hours"
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From carle at xxx.com  Wed Aug  2 05:03:21 2000
From: carle at xxx.com (carle groome)
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 00:03:21 -0400
Subject: Sinister: appy-polly-loggies to all
Message-ID: <39879D75.1C487FBE@rcn.com>

in re: my tigermilk query.
i have been informed that it has been re-released. thank you.
my only explanation is that, conversely enough, i have spent far too
much time in the archives and far too little time in the archives.
and obviously far too little time in the record shops.

note to all east coast sisternerines: magnetic fields free concert in
battery park thursday eve 7pm.

ta
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From dod at xxx.uk  Wed Aug  2 09:14:34 2000
From: dod at xxx.uk (The Duke of Danborough)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:14:34 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: Anyone fancy France? 
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.21.0008020853320.14692-100000@puffer.sanger.ac.uk>


 I have the good fortune to find myself bumming around France/Europe? next
week. I could obviously sit in a lovely sun-drenched campsite for a bit,
but it would seem a shame to waste my much earned escape from work. 
  I don't suppose anybody fancys a sly pint in a Parisian Caf do they? I
can assure that I am actually far more entertaining in real life than my
e-prose (- is that a new one?)
 Do any funky French Peeps now any wholesome and improving activitys one
could indulge oneself in about town?
 
  B+S Content bit, shamefacedly I have only just bought FYHCYWLAP
yesterday and am still waiting for it to reach my computer. But! I do have
my reasons; I read a review somewhere or other (no doubt some evil
broadsheet newspaper) that tried to justify the albums pantsness (in their
opinion) saying they were trying to dissappear from current vogue. But
also I haven't got that much money and this is "my special treat to
myself" - I love that to quote a Radio 4 ad
      
 Maybe see you in the sun? 
      Dan 
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From geoffpritchard at xxx.com  Wed Aug  2 01:33:06 2000
From: geoffpritchard at xxx.com (Geoff)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 01:33:06 +0100
Subject: Sinister: I know it's a cliche, but I know it's a cliche
Message-ID: <000501bffc19$3b64b1a0$50ec883e@oemcomputer>

What has happened to Bergerac?  When it was first on TV, Nettles was the
coolest customer around.  For a while during the late eighties, Jersey was
the new black.  Me and my family actually went on a pilgrimage there to
check out all the famous scenery.  I think it would be fair to say Bergerac
was the most doogy thing around, the non-thinking man's Morse.  At least
that is what I thought...

Now, 10 years later the programme has actually aged 40, some sort of twin
paradox I think.  Big John is now married to that old Italian bird out of
Eastenders, the stories are worse than Big Brother, and corrupt business man
Charlie Hungerford looks like he should be on a Worther's Original Advert.
I mean, the other day Polly from Fawlty Towers was married to Michael
Gambon!  My boyhood dreams have been destroyed. The Likely Lads has aged
less.  It's very chicken chicken.

If Bergerac is the downside of being on the dole, the upside is definitely
Cricket.  I feel sorry for any of you who will be earning money instead of
watching the next thrilling instalment of England vs West Indies.  I
wouldn't swap with you for the world.

Why don't Belle and Sebastian release Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner
to coincide with the Olympic Games?  They could include Steve Cram singing
Stars of Track and Field and then maybe Michael Johnson could dedicate his
400m gold medal to Photo Jenny, 'They've got the drugs I could use, but then
I don't need any'.

This cat has started walking into our house, strutting up and down the
kitchen like he owns the joint.  I gave him a saucer of milk and some
batter.  He hasn't started sitting on our sofa yet, but I wouldn't be
surprised it he did soon.
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From idleberry at xxx.com  Wed Aug  2 11:39:58 2000
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 03:39:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: you all wanna meet me...
Message-ID: <20000802103958.17067.qmail@web617.mail.yahoo.com>

..you just don't know it yet.

Come on, anyone else wanna meet up in Embra on
Thursday? You know you do, baby....


Well, failing that, I am going to see Eska/Silver
Pill/ Life without Buildings at the Attic in Embra on
Saturday as part of the Planet Pop part of the Embra
Festival.
Tickets cost �4 and are available from Fopp and
Avalanche and possibly some other record shops as
well. You know how these pesky promoters work.

Oh, and just to make you dribble, Monica Queen is also
playing Planet Pop, on the 27th, at the Venue and
there will be B+S DJ's Richard Colburn and Chris
Geddes on Monday 28th, for a mere �4 at Gaia (the old
Jaffa Cake... ach, those were the days).


Unfortunately, your darling berry shaped idle creature
(moi) shall not be around for that and is kicking
herself over it. And possibly might kick her boyfriend
for living so far away. And whinge at him a bit. 

So I'm hoping for a jolly good shag to supplement
those gigs I am missing.

Hmmm.

Love,
Idleberry

kiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskis


=====
http://www.geocities.com/idleberry
try http://welcome.to/nothingtowear for a change....

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From gogron at xxx.uk  Wed Aug  2 12:20:09 2000
From: gogron at xxx.uk (gogron)
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:20:09 +0100
Subject: Sinister: pop titans at the beginning of time
Message-ID: <398803E8.ADC8B11D@netscapeonline.co.uk>

With reference to an article in last week's *New Scientist* magazine,
and a posting the other day suggesting the implications of the word
'sinister', I append the following:

MAGNETIC FIELDS FROM SPACE MAY HAVE PUSHED LIFE TO THE LEFT
Molecules are generally to be found in both 'left-handed'(sinister) or
'right-handed'(dexter) forms. However, all life on earth uses only
'sinister' amino acid molecules to make its proteins...
The effect of 'handing' molecules was formerly thought to be caused by
polarized light, but this type of light is extremely rare in the
universe. Recently, some guys in a lab in France found that a similar
effect to that of polarized light could be obtained by using unpolarized
light in a magnetic field.
Earth's magnetic fields aren't very strong, but the presence of
extra-terrestrial magnetic fields around the same time as life was
forming on earth may be the cause behind the 'sinister' basis of life on
earth.

Now, I don't want to jump to conclusions, but I reckon the above
constitutes a fair whack at a new cosmology, with the key players
currently represented by cool pop  we know and love, bringing us
together in happy harmony...

Now, let us continue with the 60th Love Song, in your sleeve notes at
page...

hehe

Gordon


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From hewits at xxx.uk  Wed Aug  2 12:49:44 2000
From: hewits at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:49:44 +0100 
Subject: Sinister: Pictures and Pianos Stored in Locked Rooms
Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69014A3DFE@park_ex>

ello

Just a quick one today, as I'm off to ox to look at another flat <groan>,
but i thought i'd tell you all about my new picture gallery featuring pics
from 2000 troubled teenagers and the picnic beforehand.  They're at:

http://www.geocities.com/carsmilesteve/2000tt/2000TTphotos.htm

and it's a lovely shade of green and the photos are actually a half decent
size this time, rather than HUUUGE (apols if you get a funny script error on
the front page, i was getting it at home, but i'm not now...).

also if you want a bit of a giggle, go and look at this:

http://www.geocities.com/carsmilesteve/silly.jpg

and obviously, if any of you are in Cheltenham on Saturday, you can pop
along...

aren't you glad you don't live in PF's head, I mean it's lovely popping in
every now and again, but that's what it's like for him all the time!!  (I
HEART you PineFox).

did anybody else notice that i'd suddenly become capitalised?  I've been
"stephen hewitt" for the past year and a half, and now I'm "Stephen Hewitt",
funny that...

anyway, my computer needs to be taken away to get fixed now, so I'd better
go.

xoxo
CarsmileSteve

oh, Reading-heading-types, join http://www.egroups.com/group/sinireading
NOW, innit, let's see if we can have a bigger meetup than at Glasto
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From mark_e_hester at xxx.com  Wed Aug  2 15:39:39 2000
From: mark_e_hester at xxx.com (Mark Hester)
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 15:39:39 BST
Subject: Sinister: he had a new distraction
Message-ID: <20000802143939.76648.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hi all,
I'm posting surreptitiously, from a place I hoped to never visit again.  I'm 
temping for a couple of weeks at a book and CD warehouse in a building where 
I used to work nearly three years ago, in a job which was hellish.  I had my 
reservations when the agency sent me here and it is weird, not only seeing a 
familiar building with unfamiliar faces, but also as the only computer with 
Internet access is this snazzy-looking i-mac in the reception area.  How 
would I describe the colour scheme of this particular example of Steve Jobs' 
offspring?  Purple doesn't quite make it.  Lilac, possibly.

I would urge anyone who hasn't listened to David's mp3 to do so, as 
"loneliness...." is a top song.  It should be the next single, but will 
prob'ly be the next single but three.  The Tigermilk re-release revisited. 
And why not?  Good things come to.... and other cliches.

What's most depressing about this job is not the fact that I'm packing loads 
of parcels ordered online, though it is true to say that I'm learning more 
about the tensile strength of brown parcel tape than I ever thought 
possible.  It's what people are ordering that is soul destroying.  Ronan 
Keating and the Corrs galore.  A big disgrace to the Irish race.

BBC Radio 1 blasts out all over this building.  This is something of an 
admission....packing boxes is tedious, ergo musical accompaniment is 
required.  But Destiny's Child's "Jumping jumping" wends it way further and 
further into my brain.  And it's terrifying.

Mark.
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From janne.lardot at radiolinja.fi  Wed Aug  2 18:25:00 2000
From: janne.lardot at radiolinja.fi (Lardot Janne RL)
Date: 2 Aug 2000 20:25:00 +0300
Subject: Sinister: everyday is like tuesday.
Message-ID: <JA8AAAAAA5RPaAABYQABrlAdAcxU@radiolinja.fi>

(...continuing using perverted smiths lyrics in subject lines since 04/2000)

hello, strange friends, and friendly strangers.

i wish i could one day send a happy mail to sinister. sadly, i think this might
be one of the last ones, happy or otherwise. i'll soon have to prefix my
favorite word, sinister, with an unthinkable and unwelcome verb.

unsubscribe.

unsubscribe sinister.

sending that mail won't be easy. you see, i'm hooked. on sinister. the
b&s-dreams. the witty subject lines. the imaginative e-mail addresses... all
the lovely, lovely people...

i'm so depressed. finland, my "glorious" country, has dropkicked me in the
teeth for the last time. finland, one of the last western europe countries to
succesfully avoid true democracy, has requested, nay, insisted that i should do
my military service now. or rather, the twee, gun-hating, violence avoiding,
bloody pacifist scum, alternative to military service. yes, lucky me, 12 months
of free slave labor in some goverment sponsored place await me.

conscription might not mean anything much to some of you, so let me explain.
most finnish people live in a collective state of paranoia of being attacked by
"an unknown threat from east". as anyone with a bit of sense know this is
clearly bollocks. anyway, as we "heroically" beat the soviets off about 55
years ago, (by allying with the nazis, no less) military service and the
finnish army are respected, no, revered by the average finnish person, and
anyone taking the sensible pacifist alternative of civil service is, well, if
not shunned by people, then at least widely disrespected. here pacifism is not
even nearly as valued as patriotism...

anyway, i'll be off in a month or two to "do" "my service" to my "beloved"
country. bah.

and the absolutely worst thing is that my parents have a huge problem with me
not doing "the honorable" thing (ie. me not going to the army). my own parents!
clearly i was not only born to the wrong family, but to the wrong country,
maybe even the wrong planet...

my only chance to avoid the dreaded civil service is to find a study place in
some foreign country. bet that will be easy to do in a month or so...

so that's why i'm depressed. any offers of sympathy will be gratefully accepted.

- whine over -

oh, and a big massive shout out to the great robert "robert smith" smith of
this very list, who is an absolute star of man, even if he has a somewhat
unfortunate name...

so i was in london earlier. it was grate. i met some sinister people, and they
were grate too. thanks, everyone.

have to dash off now. keep it real, he said with a scandinavian accent.

- j a n n e -

p.s. this little gem of a song came up today, when i was tiredly clicking the
fantastic "belle and sebastian song generator". enjoy.

Cat in corduroys
Cat in corduroys
Loves choirboys
But Laura turns away
Wishing you were round the way
Well, wouldn't anyone?

You're hiding in a cardigan
You're hiding in a girl
Mary Jo explains
But Mary Jo's a fool
Mary Jo explains:
The cloud is as calm as string
And the sun is lonely

The sun is lonely
Lonely, lonely, lonely...

cat in corduroys? you're hiding in a girl? what can it all mean?
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From Lorraine.Hosie at xxx.uk  Thu Aug  3 09:20:45 2000
From: Lorraine.Hosie at xxx.uk (Lorraine Hosie)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:20:45 +0100 
Subject: Sinister: FW: New 2 U - Thanks to the New Green Punto.
Message-ID: <5D9E9DACC36DD311877900508B44112703ED960B@EXCHANGE-SERVER>

My First Post...

Since I've been sporadically monitoring this list for nigh-on 4 years now, I
guess it's about time I posted.

Let it be known I've been into B&S since the first time I heard "Stars of
track and field" on Mark n' Lard back when God was a boy (last EVER
religious reference I'll make - Learn from this.) 

Back in those halcyon days, I was a student in Galashiels where I knew a
girl called Astranova (no lie!) who claimed she lived across the road from
our pet band (in Glasgow) and may have even had sexual relations with
resident tub-thumper...  This is the closest I have ever been to the band's
genitalia and my only claim to B&S fame. 

Anyway, we wrote a song about Astranova - her liver had seen better days.
Bygones.

In recent times, my favourite post has been from "Kev" - his stories of the
New Green Punto (23.7.00) have motivated me to jump on the bandwagon and
feel the flies in my teeth.  Cheers Kev, you're an inspiration to us all.

My mate Joe is the newest and most kindred B&S fan I know.  We made a deal
recently when he gave me The Smiths and I gave him B&S.  Fair deal? Discuss.
He has a B&S claim to fame too, but I'll let him share it.  


For future reference or if anyone fancies a piss-up or a fig roll, I can now
be found in London....  Central location etc, you know how it is.

Lorraine xxx

p.s. I forgot my other claim to fame - My hometown (Arbroath, Scotland)
buddy Ian Grier is apparently credited on the inlay for "Fold yer hands...".
I keep forgetting to check, but if he is, that's great news.



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From valium_pill at xxx.com  Thu Aug  3 09:37:27 2000
From: valium_pill at xxx.com (i'm done faking my rampages, thankyou very much)
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 04:37:27 EDT
Subject: Sinister: distractions and then some
Message-ID: <LAW2-F156GbZcWwjPLJ000042e1@hotmail.com>

hello darlings!!


Mark said :
>BBC Radio 1 blasts out all over this building.  This is something of an
>admission....packing boxes is tedious, ergo musical accompaniment is
>required.  But Destiny's Child's "Jumping jumping" wends it way further and
>further into my brain.  And it's terrifying.

i have to comment on this. why you ask? because i havent posted for a while 
and i miss it. so there. neeener neener neener.

i was talking to a friend the other day who tried to convince me that this 
jumping jumping song (which i have actually never heard as i put down the 
phone when she played it for me) was the best song of all time.* i then 
played belle and sebby (the model, family tree, theres too much love and the 
wrong girl, i think) for her, as i was listening to fishyclap at the time. 
and she hated it. and i cried.


*actually, i dont really understand. her favorite song of all time is smells 
like teen spirit (bleck), but her favorite album is this destiny's child 
crap.  ::sigh:: too contradictory for her own good.

today, i decided that i am going to order the magnetic fields triple after 
all. why i didnt in the first place? i suck. thats bout it. i had the money, 
actually i was given the money and i balked out. why you ask? a shitty mp3.* 
  but i'm intrigued. so i want it. now i need the money. i have no money. i 
havent gotten called back about that job i applied for (even tho i only 
handed in the application 2 days ago), so now i need to go find another one, 
so i can have money to buy pretty cds, as my father is getting kinda upset 
about my always asking to buy the pretty cds with his money. i guess its 
kinda expected.   tho i did decide that if i'm going to commit to it, i'm 
going to do it. not just 23 of the love songs. all 69. i'm gonna do it. 
yeah.

my puppy is eating my fathers shoes.  i feel like i should stop her,but shes 
cuter then my father is. so i wont. besides, for all the toys she has, the 
shoes seem to make her happiest.

lalala.. i'm off to not sleep some more. its 4:30 in the morning and i cant 
go to sleep as i cant until about 9 tonite. that way i can get a full night 
sleep and be rested for a horse show i was asked to go to on friday. wish me 
luck. you know you want to.


xoxxoxo
Jes


*not one hundred percent true. at that point i was just out of a nasty break 
up and didnt think i could deal with 69 songs about an emotion which so 
cruely betrayed me. plus, the mp3 did suck.
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From mark_e_hester at xxx.com  Thu Aug  3 13:33:48 2000
From: mark_e_hester at xxx.com (Mark Hester)
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 13:33:48 BST
Subject: Sinister: Bleating about Keating
Message-ID: <20000803123349.97267.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hello,
I had a strange dream last night.  How many posts have started like that?  
It didn't start off strange at all, quite mundane really, with me sitting 
watching the news on TV and wondering "why do we hear nothing about the 
Irish army?"  Then the next programme came on and it was something like 
Equinox or Horizon, except that it was called Euroscience or some such.  Cue 
pictures of a research station just outside Dublin and a white coated 
balding individual is interviewed.  He tells us about a new program to 
*gasp* .....clone soldiers.  He then shows us numerous identical troopers in 
khaki, all encased in Bubble Wrap and ready to be despatched to their bases 
and outposts.  The camera pans round and we see that every one has the face 
of....Ronan Keating!  The techy guy then takes us down the corridor, turning 
round and addressing the camera as he walks, explaining how the early 
experiments went wrong.  He opens the door to a smallish room, more of a 
broom cupboard really, in which are stored some of the early cloning 
attempts.  All are hideous, all look like the other members of Boyzone.

Then I woke up, trembling.

The meaning of this dream is not difficult to discern.  No butlers, bakers 
or fat & skinny cows here I feel.  The answer can be found in my current 
workplace, where I have to pack literally HUNDREDS of Ronan CDs.  I look at 
the box.  Ronan is frowning.  I flip the box over, ready to pack it.  Ronan 
grins at me.  Ugh.  Maybe there's a fold-out inside the box with a plethora 
of facial expressions.  Ronan grimaces as if having a tooth pulled.  Ronan 
raises one eyebrow quizzically.  Ronan gawks at us, cross-eyed, thumbing his 
nose in a puerile manner.

There are some FYHCYWLAP CDs on the shelf, but no-one's ordered any yet.  
Boo hoo!  Maybe I should try to influence people's musical taste and do the 
odd substitution or two.  The can't sack me- ha!  I'm a temp.

Consolation is at hand in the form of my Silly Customer Name List, growing 
day by day.  I had a Peter Guess today.  Life must be hell for him.  Imagine 
the scene: the said Pete is at school and is caught running down the 
corridor.  "What's your name boy?" asks a master sternly.  "Guess, sir."

"Boy I am in no mood to play silly games!'

Calling Mrs Startup of Hounslow....why do you require *two* Ronan CDs?  
That's just plain greedy.

I'd like to start a Terrible Assonances in Songs thread.  Radio 1 gave us an 
example this morning.... "Remember the old days, remember the O'Jays'" 
warbled Kylie in 'Step Back in Time'.  Groan.
Possibly the worst ever is "pneumonia" and "phone yer" in 'I'll Never fall 
in love Again".  Double groan.

Maybe someone will order FYHCYWLAP this afternoon.  Watch me kiss the 
invoice.  We can but hope....

Mark.
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From strappingarab at xxx.com  Thu Aug  3 14:31:14 2000
From: strappingarab at xxx.com (robert smith)
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 06:31:14 PDT
Subject: Sinister: everyday is like tuesday.
Message-ID: <F222hYQYx3G5aYY61LE000052e1@hotmail.com>


possible solution for my friend Janne Lardot

>my only chance to avoid the dreaded civil service is to find a study place 
>in some foreign country. bet that will be easy to do in a month or so...
>
>so that's why i'm depressed. any offers of sympathy will be gratefully 
>accepted.

Never mind offers of sympathy janne, what you need is offers of marriage! 
All you need is a loverly sinister girl to give you the chance for duel 
nationality and all your problems will be solved.... or will they just be 
beginning? If there are any volenteers to help get janne back in the country 
I will be very grateful and I'm sure he will be as well......

>oh, and a big massive shout out to the great robert "robert smith" smith of 
>this very list, who is an absolute star of man,

quite right

>even if he has a somewhat unfortunate name...

hmmmm........


anyway,

i missed track and field at the end of July :( in fact i've only ever been 
to the one at the end of June, I had a grate time but now elena has gone far 
away i have no way of knowing when they are. I know Juicey Lucy told the 
list this time but I'd already made plans. If someone could let me know when 
they are I would be over the moon. (are they on the last friday of every 
month) I tried looking up track and field in the archieves but as you can 
imagine there were more than 50 entries...

much love
robert smith


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From JENOWL22 at xxx.com  Thu Aug  3 21:20:40 2000
From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:20:40 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Back from holibyes
Message-ID: <4e.93d0cb8.26bb2e18@aol.com>

Hewwo,

How's everyone? I've been in Spain for two weeks doing lots of odd things, so 
I feel like I've been away from sinister for ever.

Mmm, I drank my entire bodywieght in alcohol the first night, and had my 
first hangover. And (when I was sober would you believe?) I went up for 
karaoke. I don't do much well, but I can still make middle age drunk people 
cry when I get a mike and an Elaine Paige song, usually. And I bought a magic 
hat. It's like a normal hat, but it's magic. And made from rainbows. 

But all the hotel kids were hard. And they laughed at my knee high socks, and 
my fairy wings and jumped on me. Except the little ones. Because they thought 
I was a real fairy and followed me about everywhere. 

Robin sent me a copy of unreleased B&S songs (thanks to him by the way), and, 
for now, Lord Anthony is my favourite song. For now. I change a lot. Wihin 
the confines of B&S, of course, but I'm still fickle.

The new term is scarily close. In case you haven't guessed by now, school 
isn't a happy place for me. But I do have a brand new Barbie umberella, and 
hopefully a schoolbag to match (I'm going for a Barbie theme this year), and 
that might cheer me up, if they don't get broken in the first week.

Oh, and I became a vegetarian. Which you lot probably don't care about, but 
I'm stuck for something to say.

Somebody asked me the other day if my second name was Owl. It's not. 

I'm going to go now, 

Hugs,
Jen
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From chickfactor at xxx.uk  Thu Aug  3 17:16:51 2000
From: chickfactor at xxx.uk (brenda milton-bradley)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:16:51 -0700
Subject: Sinister: trux?
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From carle at xxx.com  Fri Aug  4 03:38:44 2000
From: carle at xxx.com (carle groome)
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 22:38:44 -0400
Subject: Sinister: apres le deluge
Message-ID: <398A2CB4.99460332@rcn.com>

greetings from soggy olde new york!
consider this a belle-lettre to all those interested in the magnetic
fields, which i think, from received posts, wouldn't be out of place
here. 
lovely little evening show tonight at the tip of manhattan, castle
clinton (no relation) reminding one of nothing so much as a castillian
fort--about the only venue on this island to architecturally fit the
mood of the gothic archie. and that worthy was in fine voice, it should
be said, exhorting one and all to become like bunnie rabbits under a
moon that needed poetry...
alas, we could not see the moon as the clouds rolled in...
claudia told us all, alluding to the trip across the pond i've seen such
scintillating reviews on,  how the english add adieus with a rising yelp
of BYE!... steven remarked that it was odd how cellos had become so
popular, also as a manner of explaining the whirlybirds making not
infrequent passages over the top of the circular courtyard. (honestly,
such a nice venue for his transported troubador aesthetic. about the
most medieval thing around. with the exception of the present municipal
government administration...)
but i digress.
yes. so steven's remark: "Yeah, cellos have become so popular. That's
why we had to get helicopters. Last year, theremins. This year,
helicopters. Next year...well, nobody will be listening..." and
continued to project his delightfully remorseful baritone vocal, and
even moved it into an extended tenor note that had cheers and applause
one would normally affix to a guitar solo. great acoustics--not only the
space (cf. gushing, ibid) but the instruments. claudia: "you'll note all
the acoustic intsruments we have onstage... just so you can enjoy them
as the rain and humidity detune them..."
yes. the threat from new jersey was not springsteen fans but a darkening
squall line, prompting nervous remarks between songs. impending gloom to
match the 69 love songs of doom?
sorry, but not quite. it was about ten songs into the set when steven
announced, "ok. it looks like this is it, last song..." and peering out
over the audience, "...ah, the umbrellas of london..."
scarpering even at full speed, few escaped the downpour.
so it goes.
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From hhumble at xxx.edu  Fri Aug  4 04:19:26 2000
From: hhumble at xxx.edu (Heather Humble)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 23:19:26 -0400
Subject: Sinister: underwire bras may not get you a job as a fey groupie anytime soon
Message-ID: <003b01bffdc2$ce97c980$2d4faccf@smhumble>

Well, I've been here in Virginia for a month and not a single Virginian on
this list has contacted me.  North Carolinians, on the other hand have been
lovely and pleasant people.  Which is really too bad considering Mr.
Pennington's rumors of B&S shirt wielding Virginians.  So I know they exist.
They just dont love me.

But that's all right because I will shortly be returning to Portland, OR
where I belong.  I've been corresponding with newcomer to PDX, Mr. Preston,
and I've decided that we should have some sort of picnic or other such event
to welcome him and show him around town.  That and I desperately need to
meet more non-Reedie Portlanders for my own sanity.  So I expect more
Portlanders to contact me than Virginians did.  Because P-town is cool like
dat.  Or something.  Get in touch, yo.

What else?  I might as well go through all of those messages I've been
saving up in my "Sinister" folder for the past month that seemed to be
begging for a response
when I read them:

To Ms. Jes Re: Underwire bras- You know you need them when you can stick a
pencil under your boob and it stays there.  But having not seen your
breastessess, size may not be your problem.  If the underwire isn't staying
in place you need to a) make sure the bra fits right- go to your local
department store and have that scary old lady with cold hands and the tape
measure around her neck measure you up good. b) make sure you have a good
quality bra that wont fall apart easily and c) handwash your bras so the
wire doesn't get messed up in the washer and dryer.  My mom told me that you
should always take good care of your boobs.

To Mr.White Re: not getting a job- here's my thought.  In England they train
you on a certain path that they expect you to follow and don't leave room
for deciding you want to do other things with your life.  Or maybe Im just
bitter about the educational system in Britain and England in general.

To Mr. Frantial Re: groupies- I've always had the same problem with people
doing that sort of thing.  Im more of a mental groupie, too.  I dont have
anything to say important and I dot see the need in bothering them. They're
people, too.  The worst time ever for that was this March while I was in
London.  I met up with some American friends who had come over to see Coil
and then GYBE! the following night.  I really enjoyed the shows but did not
need to be sitting around the Royal Festival Hall for 3 hours after each
show waiting for these people to fawn over their "rock stars" (if you can
consider members of either band to be such things).  Made me want to puke
and made me feel bad for the musicians who were just completely overwhelmed
by these people flocking to them just because they're famous.
Unfortunately, I had to stay around and watch because the friend I was
staying with had a major crush on one of the groupies we were with.  Blech.
Funny thing is, said friend was also disgusted and he lives with a "rock
star" of stature as the bands we saw.  Apparently he asked my friend to live
with him because he didn't care that he was famous.  I hope that didn't
count
as name dropping. "My friend lives with a rock star. so nyah"  Hmmm... maybe
Im getting too neurotic again.  Maybe Im an anti-groupie-snob?

To Mr. n|ck g Re: fey- your suggestion made me think of a time about 2 or 3
months ago.  I was out with some friends around town and two of them were
fighting over the definition of "fey." (one thought it meant whimsical and
fairy like, the other thought it meant dark and warlike).  So off we all
trotted to the Woolworth's down the road and looked it up.  Neither were
happy, of course, in that they were both wrong and right at the same time.
Each one thought they had won.  So I didn't say anything.  But the moral of
the story is, people in real life do use the dictionary.  Or maybe just
losers like us.

Oh my this is getting lengthy.  But I have new things to talk about, such
as:

Cars- I love them.  I got one Monday in fact!  It's terribly exciting!
While
I am a firm believer in public transportation, there are just some times
that a car is safer and more useful for me (e.g. getting home from ballet
class taking 25 minutes rather than 1.5 hours with creepy transfer places at
night, etc).  I got a 1999 Ford Contour SE (better known as the Mondeo to
you Europeans), which is a family sort of car, but a car (and a nice one at
it) none the less.  Speaking of new cars, how fucking rad are the PT
Cruisers?  I remember seeing them on Speedvision over Xmas, but now they're
everywhere- even here in conservative VA!  So far Ive seen them in eggplant,
silver, red, black, white and navy.  They look best in black, look horrible
in red and white, and look kinda weird in the purpley color.  They are just
so slick.  have you seen how all of the gauges in the dash have their own
separate windows, like in old cars?  My parents are convinced that they'll
be the new Chrysler Caravan.  I'm not sure of that but let me tell you, if I
had 18Gs I'd get one!  yes sir!

Nick Drake- What's the deal with the sudden resurgence?  First the VW ad and
then Monday I heard one of his songs as I was flipping through channels- it
was on some show on Fox around 8 or 9.  Hmmm...  Hurrah for Nick, but how
odd!

Gynecologists- Why are they just like dentists and ask you about your cat
(pardon the pun) whilst taking a pap smear?  At least you don't have
something in your mouth but it's still rather odd.

NME- Why do I read it?  It always pisses me off.  Not only are they wrong in
their band facts 90% of the time, but they are quite often the most
contradictory reviewers around.  Or at least they always have separate
people reviewing and scoring.  That and their reviewers don't like any of
the bands that I like.  So why do I read it week after week?  Anyone?

Music- I go through these weird stages of loving it and absofuckinglutely
LOVING it.  Now why is it that when I'm in the latter stage I have no money
to go and get what I NEED.  Take for instance this week.  I have $3.41
(better than the $-27.41 that I argued my way out of back up to the $3.41).
Now in a couple weeks when I have money, I wont be as excited and spend my
money on drinks or food or something silly like that.  Grrr.  I used to keep
a list of albums that I knew I just *absolutely* had to buy, but it was
getting to fill the larger part of a notebook so I got rid of it- it
depressed me too much.

okay, this is enough of my B&S content free drivel...
until the next time I move or go somewhere exciting,
heather
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From puntadellapis at xxx.com  Fri Aug  4 12:07:31 2000
From: puntadellapis at xxx.com (Punta de Llapis)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 13:07:31 +0200
Subject: Sinister: Mr. Miller + music showers
Message-ID: <000801bffe04$a9c1d500$ecd74cc3@isaac>

Hi you all!

I'm writing to ask you if somebody knows anything about Lucas D. A month ago
or so, he told me he was coming to Europe, and that he'd call ... So I don't
know if he's still around.
(He sent me some terrific pics: you know, he shot the camera himself... It
was funny to see what distortion could make to a face...)

Well, I'm not sure you received my first post (I didn't received it)... So I
would like you to tell me if you read it.
In case you didn't, I'm Annabel, and some days ago I
saw....................... Yes! Mr. Miller !
And... Yes! He looks like a tourist, here, and he doesn't seem like his
brand-new brother... Maybe he looks like the mother, and Jordi to the
father... Anyway, I saw them all (including Annie and her friend Yi-mee)...
A wonderful pic-nic!

About Mr. Miller...

Mr. Miller is a very attentive man, the kind of person who agrees with his
head when you are talking to him, until you finish, and then he ads an
affirmative word like "oh, yes..." that sounds soft and truly... He's a
listener, he looks at you, he listens to you and shows interest to what you
are saying... To know him it was methafisic experience...
Mr. Miller is the dreamt son-in-law that all the mothers wish for their
daughters...

To introduce myself a little more (sorry for the ones who maybe know it
yet): I'm Annabel, I'm 26... And I'm addict to Belle and Sebastian songs. I
use to listen them while working ('cos I work at home... Painting beautiful
drawings for children that Isaac, my couple, draws...), while cooking, while
cleaning and while we are in bed... Yes! There, too. And at the bathroom,
while taking a shower...

Well, I must say that not only B&S... I use to take the showers with Robert
Smith, too... (Not the guy of the list!)

Now I must leave you, but I promise to write you more often...

Me and Mr. Morrissey are going to the kitchen... (What are we going to cook,
Mr. Morrissey, a bit of meat? It's only to change a little...)

Bye !

Annabel







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From monroej at xxx.com  Fri Aug  4 16:38:33 2000
From: monroej at xxx.com (John F. Monroe)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:38:33 -0500
Subject: Sinister: looking for someone who has the 3 sessions for trade
Message-ID: <002601bffe2a$0d06e360$5f75cfa9@monroej.execpc>

I am hoping I can find someone who recorded the 3 main Belle and Sebastian
off radio in '96 and '97.  If you did, and want to trade ( cdrs would be
great, but tape is fine as well, i can do either ), I can offer you a
veritable plethora of trade goodies by a huge range of bands ( especially if
you like The Fall :) ).  I really am just looking for someone who recorded
it themselves, and not a copy of a copy of a copy, if you know what I mean.

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From amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk  Fri Aug  4 18:16:16 2000
From: amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk (amy_jackson0)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:16:16 +0100
Subject: Sinister: simple things
Message-ID: <008d01bffe37$b43fce00$aa1f3c3e@tinypc>

howdy

it's that time of year again.  the time where i grow closer to the day where
i dread seeing the post van coming along the road.

i get my exams results on the 10th.

if i don't get 4 B's, then i'm stuck in gairloch for another year, and i'll
have to go back to school.  now, for various reasons too horrible to
describe, that is a fate worse than death.

seriously.

so i've got to do well.  i need four B's.  i did highers in art, french,
modern studies (like politics and stuff) and english, and a module in maths
cos i is thick wif numbers, but i'm convinced i've f*cked up badly.  i did
this last year for my standard grades, and i got six grade 1's and two grade
2's, which is apparently like six A's and two B's in GCSE's....  so that was
pretty good, and i think if i stick to this theory, of convincing myself
i've done badly, then maybe i'll have done well.

oh who am i kidding?

i've been offered a place to do a BA in Arts and Social Science at
strathclyde uni and i REALLY need to go there this year, cos there is no way
i'm going back to school, to be with a bunch of people who hate me, take the
piss and generally make me miserable.  so i must get 4 B's.

sinisterines, you will be among the first to know my results.  if i can get
on the internet that is.  we got another massiiiiiiiive phone bill in the
other day, and i've been banned from the net during the week.

oh joy.

so you'll probably hear on friday.  or saturday.  as if any of you actually
care, i can hear the giggles/sighs of annoyance already, and i haven't even
sent this yet!

loneliness of a middle distance runner is great.  even better than legal
man, but we won't get into that one again, will we?!

have been reading a book called "sophie's world" lately. it's about the
history of philosophy and stuff, and is very good.  but what i like about
it the best is how the girl gets these secret letters every day.  i mean,
she knows who they're from (a philosophy teacher) but it's just quite cool.
i wish i got secret letters, i never get any post or anything these days.
you can send me secret emails if you want, they're better than nothing
i suppose...

ho hum

as for the subject line...

it's my favourite b&s song at the moment.  small but perfectly formed.

but nothing beats the recorders in "the boy with the arab strap".  woo, and
indeed, hoo.

i'm off,
amy xxx

"wisest is she who knows she does not know"




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From SSharp5210 at xxx.com  Fri Aug  4 20:16:01 2000
From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 15:16:01 EDT
Subject: Sinister: It's like a Formula 1 with a Subaru
Message-ID: <69.8adf6c0.26bc7071@aol.com>



Evening Poptarts

How shockingly dull is this Queen mum thing? ' Rich bird with pampered 
lifestyle lives to a hundred '. What next? 'Brian Souter in bigotry shocker!' 
It's nearly as bad as that Diana thing: Wall to wall royals. I'm only upset 
about this because it's Friday night and I'm stuck in the house ( you can all 
tell can't you?) *cheesy grin*

Anyone seen the video for Bohemian Like You by the Dandy Warhols?. Karaoke 
style subtitles on screen. Surely all vids should have this: it makes singing 
along to the telly so much more fun ( and more accurate)

Bye bye

Steve S xx
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From pinefox at xxx.com  Fri Aug  4 21:33:39 2000
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 20:33:39 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Last Exeter To Brooklyn
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I was feeling kind of silly
***************************


ATLANTIC TOSSING

Peter Miller Heavy sent a post without the word 'Rod' in the title.

When we'd recovered from the blow, we could see that he'd asked:

>>Has Trousers joined The Economist? All of a sudden there are articles 
>>about
J-Pop and Hello Kitty and lots of sly music references in the photo captions
and amusing headlines.

Your references, Miller, are obscure. I only know what this 'kitty' thing is 
because Stevie T once gave me one. Obscure, then - but accurate.

The conjecture about the Economist, however, is half-true at best. The boy 
Trouss� now works in a position of authority at the Royal Mail. He chairs 
meetings where they say,

- Shall the Royal Mail's colour change to orange?
- No, orange is tr�s 1998.

A banal vignette at best. I'm just serving as a relay of information, you 
understand, now that the boy T is no longer with us in person. See, now he's 
got this new job, he's banned from sending e-mail, which is in competition 
with the loveable and traditional forms of postage it's now his brief to 
sell.

I suggested to a pop star today that Miller might be a front for a Rod 
Stewart advertising campaign - might even be Rod himself (why not? He's been 
everyone else). She agreed, I think. As far as Rod goes, I keep coming 
across vintage Rod CDs everywhere. The other day, I was listening intently 
to Stevie's tales of the post office, when, crashing blindly into a 
lamp-post, I fell into a CD shop with Rod a plenty. Some of it was poor Rod 
- the disappointing When We Were The New Boys, etc. But some of it was 
*classic* Rod. I came away with a �5 copy of the remastered An Old Raincoat 
Won't Ever Let You Down. It's only 33 minutes long, but so is It's A Shame 
About Ray, and that has a slightly shorter title. Mind you, I think Ray is a 
better LP, despite the decency of the Rod effort. Any takers? I know Nicky D 
is out there somewhere.

Then the next day, I found Never A Dull Moment for �6. I didn't pick that 
up, but probably will. Seems arguable that once you've got these 2, Every 
Picture, and Gasoline Alley, you really don't need any other Rod in your 
life. But am I being too proscriptive here?


------------

DEVON CAPS LOCK

Alasdair Cook marshalled his difficult name and breathed:

>>And if
Heaven never existed, at least Heavenly did.

If only Tim Popkins were here, it might be in order to muster some great 
jokes along the lines of,

Just Live Devon
Stairway To Devon
Devon In A Wild Flower

and the like.

But without him around, will anyone get the clever pun involved? Possibly 
'lixibell', who has a book about puns.

Ally96 continued:

PPS It's a simile.

That he has a Parliamentary Private Secretary of his own does not surprise 
me. I can say without hypocrisy or irony that I've sometimes seen the boy 
Cook as a future Premier of Scotland. But as for the rest of the line, I 
think it refers to a simple metaphor which some clown mentioned in the last 
post of July (whose archive nonetheless includes posts from August). Come to 
think of it, I was the perpetrator. Here's why.

'It's just a simple metaphor / For a burning love' - Lloyd Cole, Forest 
Fire, 1984.

In early 1989, a Scots pop magazine called the Cut reviewed Lloyd's Best Of, 
and quoted this line, adding 'If a simple metaphor is needed, Lloyd Cole is 
like cheap cola: flat, lacking the fizz and originality of the real thing', 
etc etc. At the time I thought this was clever rock writing.

It struck me that some folk distinguished between a metaphor and a simile: 
the latter involving similitude ('like a forest fire'), and that the 
reviewer could have said that Lloyd's was, strictly speaking, a simile. 
Heaven knows, this was mere pedantry, not least because a simile is one 
class of metaphor. But Cookie96 has revived the charge in comic vein against 
my description of sinister last week. I appreciate his solicitude for the 
treasures of the text; but I think he's mistaken, cos I said:

>>This list has fair exploded into a forest fire of action in the last week 
>>or so

which does not involve any explicit allusion to similitude.

------------------------

CAT-TIN MARVELS

Geoff recounted:

This cat has started walking into our house, strutting up and down the
kitchen like he owns the joint. I gave him a saucer of milk and some
batter. He hasn't started sitting on our sofa yet, but I wouldn't be
surprised it he did soon.

That's Martin Robinson. Didn't you realize?

-------------------------

SAW A MOTORCRASH

Ally96, who's been on fire lately, also excited me with this kind of talk:

The spirit of rock 'n' roll is alive and well, and it is dedicated to
the first Sugercubes album. Where were YOU in '89? Have you ever
dedicated an ideological way of life to such a transitory item as a pop
record?

Perhaps pop should not be dedicated to aspects of life, instead we
should postulate the theory that pop music IS life itself.

I found this interesting, though self-confessedly enigmatic. I think 96 had 
been attending too many shows in Camden and getting amazing vibes about pop 
about pop. When I say too many shows, I mean the opposite: he'd been, he'd 
seen - and he'd got the picture. I think - I'd like to think - he's bang on. 
He bangs on, too, sometimes. Or does he?


>>>A snapshot of his life was all he ever gave them, but the flash didn't
wake them up, it was the music that did that. The music of someone he
loved. They went to the park. Someone, somewhere, caught a bus.

I thought this was fine, too. There should, perhaps, be more of it about. 
Why isn't there?

- Because it's rubbish! whispers a wee Go-Betweens-admiring Scots footy 
expert bairn.


----------------------------

HE'S A WATERFALL

Steady Mike - for it was he - typed.

Then he thought - things like:


>>Ultimately, I did neither - shuffling out of that humid box with a
stolen bottle of Becks.

The excellence of this paragraph (go and reread it - why not? It was very 
fine), I think, is distilled best in that

'that humid box'
.

Can anyone explain why? Something about the detachment of that 'that', is 
it?



>>I am prepared to have my
preconceptions challenged here, however.

OK.

Watford outplayed you in the 1984 Final. The Cocteau Twins' work improved 
steadily as they entered the 1990s and left their early excessive spirit of 
adventure behind them. Ditto Throwing Muses, who are now, if they're still 
going, at their peak. The Alarm vied with Phil Collins to make by far the 
best records of the 1980s - it's down to 'Against All Odds' vs '68 Guns', 
folks. So-called Midi systems are the best way of listening to music, 
especially if it's precision and clarity you're after. Richard Briers is 
neither funny nor poignant.

Phew.


>>Elsewhere, a boy called Brown opened his closet and the skeleton of
Green Gartside fell out. No embarrassing bag of bones this.

Eloquent, confident in tone - but baffling. Can anyone explain?


>>>Unless I've been skimming posts even more than usual (and I have), I 
>>>don't think there's been over-much examination of the brief, swimmy,
piano-led instrumental which shares track-space with "Judy Slap" on
the ex-hit single (CD version). I think Chris Jones mentioned it, to
a deafening wall of indifference. I think it's comfortably the best
thing on there. Does this have a name of its own? Shall we give it
one? "Sticky Farrago". "Grief Jollies". "The Path To Rushmere St
Andrew Is Gloomy And Unyielding". I know you can do better.

It's called "Sonic Primrose", and it's by nand. I thought that had already 
been made clear.


*********************************
When I stepped in some Caerphilly
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From curled_up at xxx.com  Fri Aug  4 22:25:30 2000
From: curled_up at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?carey=20lander?=)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 14:25:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: my generation
Message-ID: <20000804212530.10646.qmail@web4207.mail.yahoo.com>

don't read my posts. they're rubbish.

hello. i was doing that deep thinking thing you do in
bed sometimes and pondering how wonderful sinister is
and things and had the alarming thought that maybe one
day it will end.
how would this work? would there be a closing date one
day when honey is too wrinkled to cope with us and
we'd have a month of tear-stained goodbyes? 
or will we be still glued to our inboxes when we're
OLD. i mean i know many of you are already OLD but to
a bright-eyed 18 year old this seems like quite a
novel idea. will we be posting about the latest antics
of wee jane, jenny and lisa? (having married our list
crushes ofcourse. except we cant all marry erica.hmm.
problem)
i quite fancy the idea of a sinister retirement
village  near the sea. like an everlasting bowlie. and
with a big library of laura llews books to entertain
us. goodness me.just think how big the archives would
be by then.
and some young kid would come in and play old
favourites to us on the piano and we could have a sing
song. oh god. im being twee. sorry.
anyway. i think you get the point.i wont go on and on.
it was just inspired (?) by liking you lot. but i hate
to suck up too much.its just not cool.
happy aging kids :)and OLD people
love xxxx
 i did say this would be rubbish.sorry.




  

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From LunaLilly at xxx.com  Fri Aug  4 22:38:24 2000
From: LunaLilly at xxx.com (LunaLilly at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 17:38:24 EDT
Subject: Sinister: in the aeroplane over the sea
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Hello all. 

   So I have made four converts in the past year. Very exciting. Actually it 
matters so little in life but what the hell it's some actual Belle and 
Sebastian content from me for once. Also I was at Barnes and Noble indulging 
in a very carmely drink the other day (not that I support corporations like 
that, but sometimes it's nice to have books and coffee all at the same time) 
and I really truly swear Stuart M was there. Very odd. I had never seen this 
boy before and I just think he looked like SM so much. But I know why in the 
hell would he be in Omaha. So it wasn't him. But how I wish it was and he 
would have slid up to my table and said "my I really like your powerpuff girl 
watch....and you are so lovely ...you would look so good in my car." A bit 
straight forward for him I know...but oh my I would swoon and slide off my 
chair into a pool of carmely drink. Boys don't usually approach me unless 
they are old or gangsta. It's no good. Oh my this is ludicrous. Damn silly. 
So how is everyone? I really like loneliness of middle distance runner thank 
you David. It's so nice....has anyone read the book or seen the movie? I'm 
sure you all have. I had a dream last night I met a boy with red hair and he 
was wearing an Elliott smith watch and he was reading Mother Earth News 
magazine. Very odd....and I was quite excited about it because you never see 
anyone reading that wonderful magazine. Also my best most closest friend is 
NY visiting this boy she ofcourse likes and she is thinking she might move 
there. Not for a year in which she'll be living with me..but still when she 
told me I tried to be happy but I was just crying so hard. It will be the 
worst. She is my favorite friend and the only person who really understands 
me. She is very sad too. I hate change like this. Everything good always 
ends. Oh well. Isn't that life....and I hate it. Also I am taking a new job I 
think sitting with this wonderful old woman. She is so sweet. I adore her so 
much and I'm quite excited to get paid for something as great as taking care 
of this peach of an old woman. Sorry to ramble I'm sure the three people who 
have actually read to this point of the email are ever so bored. Thank you. 
All of you have a wonderful weekend. And remember how special you all are. 
Ha. Ok....that's enough. Olivia       P.S. I'm going to see Camara Obscura 
this weekend...not that you care...but I am excited as hell and I wanted to 
share
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From wffej at xxx.com  Sat Aug  5 04:00:39 2000
From: wffej at xxx.com (wffej !!!)
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 23:00:39 EDT
Subject: Sinister: godspeed tix maybe available for aug 10 in nyc
Message-ID: <LAW-F191IBjhyMVYUQM0000279c@hotmail.com>

hyi everyone, no b and s content, but i may have up to 3 extra tickets for 
the godspeed you black emporer first night august 10 in nyc.  i will 
definilty be sure by monday august the 7th, so if anyone is interested, 
please let me know.  they are 15 bucks, what a deal right? the knitting 
factory and all.  and if you guys are already going ill see you all liquered 
up, especillay friday night.  talk to you soon-jeeeeeeeeffffffffffff
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From mikelsen at xxx.nz  Sat Aug  5 04:47:17 2000
From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 15:47:17 +1200
Subject: Sinister: I've missed you guys ....
Message-ID: <009e01bffe8f$fdecdb80$ac6137d2@computer>

First post in ages.

I've been sans computer for two weeks, which has actually been really hard.
The CD writer on mine was stuffed, and it took them AGES to fix it. Which
was a pain. Actually, I did have access to my e-mail off my ISP's site, but
a few days into my computerless existence they "lost" my e-mail. And of
course I didn't hav anybody's address. Except for sinistrs, but I could only
send the mail as HTML format. Whcih meant it always got bounced back.

So here I am .....

Somebody gave me a list crush vote a few weeks ago. I am flattered and
intrigued. Somebody likes me and I don't know who ....

Random thoughts on stuff people have said over the last two weeks.

Well, someone said something about Belle & Sebastian being "capitalists"
because they put non-album tracks out as singles, "forcing" us to buy them.
Ummm ... nobody is putting a gun to your head, listees. And personally,
seeing as I'd be buying the singles anyway (of my own free will) I'd rather
they had as many new songs as possible. So I think it's a good thing they
do. Value for money, post-punk ethic etc. And yes, I would have liked the
first three EPs compiled as a single CD. But if they had of done that I
would have bought the compilation album ... rather than just the slipcase.
So again, good, money saving thing. How dare you complain .... etc. etc.
etc.

Ordered the boxed set of "69 Love Songs" after a few people had been talking
about it. Am so excited .....

There is this aweful programe here on TV called 5:30 live, which is (guess
what) a live magazine show which is on at 5:30pm. They have this clueless
girl doing music reviews, more on account of her (admittedly) gorgeous body
than here latent talent. Anyway, last night she gave "Fold Your Hands .." a
great review, whilst missing the point entirely. (I wish I had a transcript
.... I think she said they were "quirky" at one point.) Anyway, they showed
about 30 seconds of "The Wrong Girl" video, which was exciting for me. And
then I had barbequed squid steaks for dinner, so it was a great night.

To answer my own question about where the "party" noises were in the new B&S
album, I discovered this in last weeks Melody Maker (the one with Mansun on
the cover). There was a wee article about Tony Doogan and the making of the
new album. Buggered if I can hear it though. For those of you who haven't
read it, I may try and transcribe it this week, bearing in mind I am THE
SLOWEST TYPIST IN THE WORLD. (Honey, ALL of my posts take more than fifteen
minutes to create - even the two line ones!)

Finally ....

***SELFISH TRADE QUESTION*** (sorry everyone else)
I am trying to locate CD/fm stereo quality copies of the Radio 1 evening
session. The one with:
Seymour Stein
Lazy Line Painter Jane
Sleep the clock around
Slow Grafitti
Does anyone have a *really* good copy of this session they could copy on CD
or tape for me? I can respond in kind with the two Radcliffe sessions
sounding super-duper, along with the Apocolypse Tube version of "Lonliness
of a middle distance runner" on a tape or CD. Please mail me if you can help
... and if you have the "Bus tour mini session" of "The Wrong Girl" that
would be even better.

Sorry folks ....

Anyway, hope all is well in Sinistrland. Glad to be back.

rock on (or something)

Lawrence Mikkelsen
http://www.akn.quik.co.nz/mikelsen/aboutme

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From amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk  Sat Aug  5 09:05:45 2000
From: amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk (amy_jackson0)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 09:05:45 +0100
Subject: Sinister: simple things
Message-ID: <001b01bffeb3$f6fdea20$6d523c3e@tinypc>

howdy

it's that time of year again.  the time where i grow closer to the day where
i dread seeing the post van coming along the road.

i get my exams results on the 10th.

if i don't get 4 B's, then i'm stuck in gairloch for another year, and i'll
have to go back to school.  now, for various reasons too horrible to
describe, that is a fate worse than death.

seriously.

so i've got to do well.  i need four B's.  i did highers in art, french,
modern studies (like politics and stuff) and english, and a module in maths
cos i is thick wif numbers, but i'm convinced i've f*cked up badly.  i did
this last year for my standard grades, and i got six grade 1's and two grade
2's, which is apparently like six A's and two B's in GCSE's....  so that was
pretty good, and i think if i stick to this theory, of convincing myself
i've done badly, then maybe i'll have done well.

oh who am i kidding?

i've been offered a place to do a BA in Arts and Social Science at
strathclyde uni and i REALLY need to go there this year, cos there is no way
i'm going back to school, to be with a bunch of people who hate me, take the
piss and generally make me miserable.  so i must get 4 B's.

sinisterines, you will be among the first to know my results.  if i can get
on the internet that is.  we got another massiiiiiiiive phone bill in the
other day, and i've been banned from the net during the week.

oh joy.

so you'll probably hear on friday.  or saturday.  as if any of you actually
care, i can hear the giggles/sighs of annoyance already, and i haven't even
sent this yet!

loneliness of a middle distance runner is great.  even better than legal
man, but we won't get into that one again, will we?!

have been reading a book called "sophie's world" lately. it's about the
history of philosophy and stuff, and is very good.  but what i like about
it the best is how the girl gets these secret letters every day.  i mean,
she knows who they're from (a philosophy teacher) but it's just quite cool.
i wish i got secret letters, i never get any post or anything these days.
you can send me secret emails if you want, they're better than nothing
i suppose...

ho hum

as for the subject line...

it's my favourite b&s song at the moment.  small but perfectly formed.

but nothing beats the recorders in "the boy with the arab strap".  woo, and
indeed, hoo.

i'm off,
amy xxx

"wisest is she who knows she does not know"





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From sadandsentimental at xxx.com  Sat Aug  5 07:04:09 2000
From: sadandsentimental at xxx.com (Curtis Heath)
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 01:04:09 -0500
Subject: Sinister: b&s in a major motion picture
Message-ID: <LAGDEEDPFFCBAAAA@mailcity.com>

Howdy Kids,
Don't hate me for seeing Hollow Man. Personally, I could never tell if Paul Verhoeven was the genius that his early art-films seemed to make him out to be, or a sell-out making typical Hollywood trash (Robocop, Starship Troopers, Showgirls.) But after seeing Hollow Man, I realize he's a genius... Kevin Bacon's character is named Sebastian, and his pet gorilla is named Isobelle. Yes, she's his lab-animal... but still, she plays an important catalyst to the plot. No joke! They made Isobelle a gorilla. Not necessarily a monkey-butler, but a gorilla nonetheless.
This could be no coincidence. I think Paul is trying to tell us something. He's been heavily criticized for being a misongynistic, homophobic pornographer... and I think he's trying to let a certain few of us know that all of his films are done a bit tongue-in-cheek. I mean, you can't necessarily be a homophobe, and a Belle and Sebastian fan at the same time, can you? I think he's giving the typical movie going masses exactly what they want- violence and sex basically. I think it's all a game to him. Anyways...
You guys have fun.
Curtis
p.s. Don't see the movie. It's really bad. 


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From idleberry at xxx.com  Sat Aug  5 16:04:13 2000
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 08:04:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: the busy goings ons...
Message-ID: <20000805150413.24653.qmail@web618.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello sinisterians,
Thoutght I ought to post you something with a little
info while I have it.

If anyone is interested in finding out more about the
planet pop thing (I've had one or two asking how I
came to know what I know. I said it was school. Until
I realised they meant this)
then go to 
http://www.planetpop.co.uk

or pay a visit to Fopp in Glasgae or Embra for
details.

Tonight, I am off to the opening night of Planet Pop,
at the Attic, in the cowgate, to see Silver Pill, Eska
and Life Without Buoldings.

If anyone wants to come along, and meet me ( a rare
and special occasion!) then pop along.

Don't know exactly what I shall wear yet, but hey,
I'll be the girl with the corduroy flares, and
possibly a green Blue Peter Badge. Nothing else. Going
naked otherwise. Nude feet. The lot.

So with that wee combo, I'm sure I'll be dead
recognisable. ;-)

Afterwards, hoping to head out to the Art College to
get on down with some funky indie beats at the Egg.

Yet again, anyone welcome, come and join in hassling
the DJ for B+S entire catalogue.

Then,I'm off to Bournemouth.

Okay?

Love
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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com  Sat Aug  5 16:23:15 2000
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 16:23:15 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Its A Sat At Home Day Saturday
Message-ID: <000001bffef1$32d5a960$2b49063e@default>

(There's no drive-in in this town)

Hi All,

BASTARDS MAG 9/00
Someone (Sophie? Lucy?) has already told us that this month's Select
reprints Struan's Glasgow University Guardian interview, but neglected to
draw to our attention the topless shot of To... oops, sorry :) , Wee Chris,
accompanying the V-Twin article on the following page. There's a picture of
Max's steering wheel too.

The same issue sees that other Stuart (Mogwai's) referring to our faves as
"the Baw & Sac". Babelfish couln't help me out here, so any expert in
Glaswegian argot able to render a translation would be appreciated.


Apologies for random order of the rest of this post cobbled together as it
is from scraps noted from the last few weeks' digests:


CHEESY POOFS
Carsmile Steve camping it out in South Park


WELCOME BACK BRAD
Nice to hear from you again. Is this list still a f*cking nail? And whatever
did that mean, anyway?


TRANSFORMER MAN
Mr P F: Rod's cover of The Wild Side of Life is also worth a listen. So is
Status Quo's actually, but we'd better not go there...


THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN
Did I dream that Lynyrd Skynyrd got mentioned on this list recently? Your
then still teen correspondent remembers seeing them support Golden Earring
at the Newcastle City Hall on 16.11.74, but was cool enough to leave before
the main act. Seeing them live was pretty dull though, as every lick was
note for note the same as the albums.


HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER (soon)
I reckon this list will leave the Terible Twos and start whatever it is you
call the Threes in a few days time - Sunday 27th (?)  (although my own
Sinister anniversay isn't until a couple of months later). What should be
done to celebrate this momentous occasion? Bake a 1360 portion virtual cake?
Special picnic? Look like tourists in Barcelona? Gang Bang Honey? (BTW, cool
WAP page, Hon)

Put your thinking caps on please, organisers.


B&S CONTENT
Bollocks. Us people here on Sinister have got other things going on in their
lives apart from Belle and Sebastian. If we just posted about the band 24
hours a day, 365 days a year, the list wouldn't survive.

So lets get right on with that Dear Diary stuff.


PRIMROSE HILL PICNIC
I never made it...

...but I did get to the Spread Eagle for the apres-picnic. This may have
been a mistake however as the assembled company had a massive head start in
the drinking stakes.

I showed Greenwich photos, BG Martin sat on my lap, people talked to me
about Madder Rose, I took photos of Tim that he won't let me publish, Geoff
left with hordes of women & people generally had F!U!N.


FOX-Y-GLOVES
The foxiest band in Britain played the Under Solo Club in Camden recently,
augmented by Sedentary Fox Martin on STuD bass & Pam & Eddie Vedder's love
child Ira on drums. Posh venue, glamorous audience (Hi Gals!), excellent
set, Pine Fox Joe's guitar being inspired by Martin's magic box to run all
over the place but still ending up in the right places. Rogueishly handsome
Vulpine Fox supplied the witty between songs banter.

Make us a record, please guys.


OLDE CHEDDAR CHEESE
Pussy Cat, Pussy Cat where have you been? I've been up to London to see the
Queen (well, a Princess at least)

Her Royal Stickiness was in town to see that 69 New Romantic Songs bloke. I
too have acquired a copy of the record, but feel its appreciation may be an
uphill struggle, not least because of my own home-grown South Park chorus of
derision that greets its ever being played.

Bye,

Mental Groupie
Chelmsford, UK

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From alexthepuck at xxx.com  Sun Aug  6 01:37:51 2000
From: alexthepuck at xxx.com (Alex Puck)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 01:37:51 +0100
Subject: Sinister: childs first post
Message-ID: <20000806003906.43186.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hello everybody!
Ok, this is my first post so be gentle with me! It seems like i spent ages
in the nursery, and i'm rather nervous about posting now with everyone else.
so, i'm from northern Ireland, i'm 21 and i'm going to do an msc in
computers, as i just fished my b.a in history in english. me and my friend
simon are the only people i know who like belle and sebastian, so it's nice
to hear from other people who have a bit of taste about them!
anyhow, if there's anyone else from n.i. who'd like to meet up, drop me a
line; everyone else seems to be having lots of fun picnics, so we should
have one too!!
and if anyone else is going to the angelica/astrid/aerial gig in the garage
in london on wedensday, let me know, cos i'm coming to london for the week.
ok, hope you're not all too bored now. bye.
Alex

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From koolaidwino at xxx.com  Sun Aug  6 02:08:41 2000
From: koolaidwino at xxx.com (brad !)
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 21:08:41 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Its A Sat At Home Day Saturday
Message-ID: <F58B6gVs1tIzmQVuRWC000019c7@hotmail.com>



>WELCOME BACK BRAD
>Nice to hear from you again. Is this list still a f*cking nail? And 
>whatever
>did that mean, anyway?

i've never used that expression and, furthermore, don't know what it means. 
it sounds like british slang to me and i am neither a) british or b) one of 
those americans who uses words like "shite" and "bollocks". i do mutter the 
occasional "cunt!" whenever someone cuts me in traffic or snatches the last 
cuban sandwich from the deli while i'm on my lunch break and all i've been 
thinking about all morning long is getting me a cuban on my lunch 
break...but those times are few and far between.

here's how to spend a saturday b!r!a!d! style.

first there some prerequisites though:
1) live in a town for seven months and don't learn your way around or the 
names of any streets
2) go out of town one day and blow all your money at record stores so you'll 
be really broke
3) have a car with a non-functioning air conditioner during a hot humid 
georgia summer's day

when all these are met, do the following:
1) wake up and decide that since you're too broke to do anything that you're 
gonna try and find a library in your town because every town has a library 
right?
2) ask your roommate how to get to one and receive shoddy directions
3) drive around for an hour and wind up in crackville sweating and mad
4) come home and yell at your roommate for sending you to crackville doesn't 
he know you could've been shot?
5) get him to come with you to both show you the library and learn your way 
around town (finally)
6) wow...there's a warhol exhibit at the museum. let's go see it.
7) leave museum and find library
8) check out two out of print brautigan books that you can never find in any 
store and secretly make plans to never return them
9) get a hooker and a six pack of pabst and head home
10) piss hooker off cause all you really want is some company and would she 
please put her clothes back on, get drunk, and check your email only to 
realize that someone has either misquoted you or attributed a quote to you 
that you didn't make
11) mutter "cunt!" to your computer and hit reply
12) type

i also don't use words like "git" or "sugar-coated toothpaste"

-brad



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From declan63 at xxx.com  Sun Aug  6 02:45:00 2000
From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 21:45:00 -0400
Subject: soy cuba  Re: Sinister: Its A Sat At Home Day Saturday
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: Sinister: Its A Sat At Home Day Saturday


>
>
> >WELCOME BACK BRAD
> >Nice to hear from you again. Is this list still a f*cking nail? And
> >whatever
> >did that mean, anyway?
>
> i've never used that expression and, furthermore, don't know what it means.
> it sounds like british slang to me and i am neither a) british or b) one of
> those americans who uses words like "shite" and "bollocks". i do mutter the
> occasional "cunt!" whenever someone cuts me in traffic or snatches the last
> cuban sandwich from the deli while i'm on my lunch break and all i've been
> thinking about all morning long is getting me a cuban on my lunch
> break...but those times are few and far between.
>


is there a publix in town?  they should be able to set you up with a big cuban sandwich fresh off the griddle.  (though it's too
late at this point.....the chicken philly is great too)

the hooker encounter reminds me of my time in london when an admittedly lovely and unskanky (or undodgy) young woman behind me asked
"d'you want some company?"   well, i'm thousands of miles from anyone i know and generally quite lonely anyway.....of course i do!
but................


i *have* added some UK to my vocabulary, but i spend a lot of time on lists devoted to UK people, with UK people who i've spent time
with *in* the UK, so it hardly seems forced.  plus, words like the aforementioned "dodgy" or "knackered", say, are simply better and
more succinct than anything else i can think of.  still, one can forget one's audience and sound rather strange in other places (and
it's much more polite here to mutter "bollocks" at my computer and the people i deal with at work than "this is bullshit!" :) )

jay, who's off to the bar for a bit because there's simply not much else to do, which seems to be the dominant situation today, and
they have cheap newcastle on tap!  (because it's.....you know......*good* beer....though i'm a big PBR fan too)

"the window was open and the raindrops were bouncing on my head"


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From paulinel_s at xxx.com  Sun Aug  6 11:38:37 2000
From: paulinel_s at xxx.com (Pauline L. Shivers)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 03:38:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: daughter of a french nobleman
Message-ID: <20000806103837.23910.qmail@web6103.mail.yahoo.com>

First post to sinister
Am I exciting? Am I shivering? Am I scared? Shall I
spare you all?
Who Am I? I'm Pauline L. Shivers obviously! I'm a
daughter of a czech nobleman, not a french one mind
you. My dad was a Bohemian aristocrat; but he lost
everything because his father fell in love with his
mother's maid.. and I'm telling you the truth.
You see, my grandfather fell in love with this lovely
peasant girl; but of course his father wouldn't accept
a marriage between his only son and a servant...
So, he threatened my grandfather; either the peasant
girl or his fortune... unfortunately, my grandfather
chose to be disinherited than let the love of his life
go! next thing you know, him and my grandmother were
in a train to Paris; from there they went to London...
And here I am, the grandaughter of a love fool, of a
disinherited aristocrat, living in Prague now after my
family moved back there 10 years ago.
Belle & Sebastian: I heard "Dog On Wheels" in the
Spring of 1997, in a radio station! I rushed to my
friend's recordshop and bought it.
As I was travelling back from the countryside by
train, listening to the Clientele on my walkman, I
came back home to find the notification "you've been
given a voice"; and I thought, yes, it's time to annoy
you all.
Fading Summers   Always in August I have this feeling
that the Summer Fades Away. I've read somewhere
recently that the beginning of August, in gaelic
tradition, definites the end of Summer and the
beginning of Autumn; so they used to celebrate it with
big fires in which they smoked their guns, as the
beginning of Autumn meant that the haunting era was
commencing.
Semiotics: I love the posts of Mr Pine Fox, there's a
strange kind of semiotics there, don't you think?
Being intrigued by the posts of his I read since I've
been subscribed here, I went to the archives and read
some more.
So I said what I had to say, and baring in mind that I
had to keep this short, I'm going to leave you.
Enjoy the rest of your Sunday! Sundays are so cruel!

                Pauline 



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From honey at xxx.org  Sun Aug  6 14:59:40 2000
From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 14:59:40 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: B&S on TV, 8th august, england (fwd) (and presumably Scotland)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0008061447170.5625-100000@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk>

Hi oh enlightened ones,

Andy Dean, a dearly departed former founding listee sent the mail below
on to me from his lovely big hairy cave so I'm sending it on.  Thanks
Andy.  Some people really like the Acid House, but it nearly made me
swallow a bottle of aspirin.  If you want to catch B&S on it, I think
you only have to watch maybe the first 15 minutes.  Just lock the
medicine cabinet.  Lock, not lick, David Moore.

I'm a bit scared about David's plans for the Sinister 3rd birthday now,
I'm going to stay indoors and hide in a cupboard, with secure underwear
on.  If anyone can think of anything we could all do which doesn't
involve an awful amount of effort then please do mail me.  We could've
had Steve Carsmile's world picnic day if we hadn't already, but that was
ages ago and I imagine the bread is a bit stale by now, ants are
crawling all over the jam, and a hedgehog is eating the sausage rolls.
We could have a Sinister Underwear Day where we all promise to wear the
same colour?  Mail me suggested colours if you like it.  Not the undies
please, just the colours.

You could however mail Scarlet or me more items for her clothing
gallery, it's all getting a bit mothballed:

http://www.missprint.org/cgi-bin/photo.cgi?gallery=slipups

Ok I'd better go, the iron's on.  I'm still around if a little wilted
at the edges and if any needs list help do mail me.  You're all being
very good.

Honey xxx


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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:11:14 +0100 
From: Andrew Dean <ADean at xxx.com>
To: "'honey at missprint.org'" <honey at missprint.org>
Subject: B&S on TV, 8th august, england

please forward to sinister, i'm no longer subscribered:

The Acid House is on tv next tuesday. 8th August, 23:35 BST, Channel 4,
England, probably Scotland (but possibly not Wales where they'll be showing
Llandfill A Gogogoch instead, probably, "see local press for details"). This
is the first time those of us who don't do cinemas and who aren't posh
enough to have SpaceTv, cable, onDigital or any of that modern stuff to see
it. it does, of course, feature B&S on the soundtrack, that song with the
great line about defrosting the fridge. the rest of the film is probably
filth.

andy
other listings magazines are available...

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From David1822 at xxx.com  Sun Aug  6 20:28:10 2000
From: David1822 at xxx.com (David Strange Strange)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 12:28:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: Cars, BarBeQues and Picnics Afar
Message-ID: <9226360.965590090019.JavaMail.imail@doodle.excite.com>


I bet I was missed, like a golfer missing the last hole that could've won
him £90,000.

Don't you hate it when you arrange to meet somebody at a certain fast food
restaurant at
Victoria station in London and then find out there are 2 of these bloody
restuarents,GRRRR!. Still I got a GRATE Neutral Milk hotel from her, thank
you ever-
so.

Select! published the Sturan car article about the lovely Max. I love that
article ever such
a lot it's so lovely & makes me feel warm and snugly inside. also no I know
I'm no critic
(I'll leave that to the rest of you) but it shows Stuarn relaxed and being
very honest in his
criticism of IYFS, which is still me second favourite B&S album, Tigermilk
being my
numero uno. The article almost makes my want a car, but then I'd have to
give up my
skateboarding & I can finally get up and down curbs so I'm quite proud of
myself,my
elbows though are so scarred, oh I'd absouloutly love to tour the U.S in a
lovely old car
imagine what fun it would be?, maybe next year.

Talking of et U.S I hope I've not missed it but I hope all the N.Y listee
have a cool time at
there picnic,  I've always wanted to go , anyway I hope you all have/had a
lovely time.

Finally I'm so very happy as the one the only Sophie-Ellis-Bexter is back in
the music,
even if it is on a dodgy dance record. My goodness me she is so lovely and
her
cheekbones oh they are to die for.

I had alitle bit of a Lucy Alder turn last weekend at a BBQ I drunk a whole
bottle of Gin
with Tonic and lemon, it was so scrumptious, and I plan to do the same this
weekend, he,
he, he.

anyway I 'm off to buy some Gin







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From David1822 at xxx.com  Sun Aug  6 20:28:12 2000
From: David1822 at xxx.com (David Strange Strange)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 12:28:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: Cars, BarBeQues and Picnics Afar
Message-ID: <4022623.965590092526.JavaMail.imail@doodle.excite.com>


I bet I was missed, like a golfer missing the last hole that could've won
him £90,000.

Don't you hate it when you arrange to meet somebody at a certain fast food
restaurant at
Victoria station in London and then find out there are 2 of these bloody
restuarents,GRRRR!. Still I got a GRATE Neutral Milk hotel from her, thank
you ever-
so.

Select! published the Sturan car article about the lovely Max. I love that
article ever such
a lot it's so lovely & makes me feel warm and snugly inside. also no I know
I'm no critic
(I'll leave that to the rest of you) but it shows Stuarn relaxed and being
very honest in his
criticism of IYFS, which is still me second favourite B&S album, Tigermilk
being my
numero uno. The article almost makes my want a car, but then I'd have to
give up my
skateboarding & I can finally get up and down curbs so I'm quite proud of
myself,my
elbows though are so scarred, oh I'd absouloutly love to tour the U.S in a
lovely old car
imagine what fun it would be?, maybe next year.

Talking of et U.S I hope I've not missed it but I hope all the N.Y listee
have a cool time at
there picnic,  I've always wanted to go , anyway I hope you all have/had a
lovely time.

Finally I'm so very happy as the one the only Sophie-Ellis-Bexter is back in
the music,
even if it is on a dodgy dance record. My goodness me she is so lovely and
her
cheekbones oh they are to die for.

I had alitle bit of a Lucy Alder turn last weekend at a BBQ I drunk a whole
bottle of Gin
with Tonic and lemon, it was so scrumptious, and I plan to do the same this
weekend, he,
he, he.

anyway I 'm off to buy some Gin

Love & Kisses David (Dafyd)







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From i_love_moon at xxx.com  Sun Aug  6 23:29:43 2000
From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (Johan Nilsson)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 00:29:43 +0200
Subject: Sinister: tanoshii hi
References: <20000806003906.43186.qmail@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <20000806222701.1270.qmail@hotmail.com>

[a happy day]


hello sinisters. i need help from tech-heads and students and what better
place to look? i need a name for my record label. yeah it is very simple but
i can't do it. i am all out of ideas. i need something, soon too. it would
mean a lot if you could let me know of any ideas. think holiday music, and
if you have ever seen the cover to kevin drumm's album 'comedy' you should
know the feeling.

[40 words on "b&s"]
i found an interview with steve in this dumb swedish 'studio-music-people'
magazine called mm here. it was a dumb interview cuz the journalist were
mocking us... well ok not us directly but b&s fans in general for all the
'dumb' remous regarding the band like that 'the bad doesn't do interviews'.
the only fun part of the interview was when steve talk about how he hated
that it took so long to make fishclap. that's a good thing. i hope this
means we can see a new album before christmas. right? no? oh come on. well a
new ep should be out. may we hope that there is a song about/with-the-word
toblerone (in it) on it.

ok, so remember, name, i need a name for my record label. please help me.

happy trails,
johan

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From margarita at xxx.com  Mon Aug  7 02:21:12 2000
From: margarita at xxx.com (triumphant loser)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 20:21:12 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Wolves will tear us apart
Message-ID: <004701c0000d$c6b37b40$ad8ffacf@oemcomputer>

If someone/persons wouldnt mind shining a little light on this current tour
buisness, i would be most pleased.I dont know if this has been discussed or
not(its impossible to read all the posts).All in all i guess this has all
got me a little angry....i mean how could you have no tour?One would think
that a state side tour would be of the most importance, trying to reach a
wider audience, while keeping the dates at a realistic amount.I understand
that B&S like to keep things low-key....i even respect it, surely there
comes a time when one must think about the buisness end of things
though?Keeping ones fanbase and expanding it should be on the mind of any
band.Its kinda like having a close friend you help out all the time and when
it comes time for them to help you all you get is a big F*** YOU.....not
very cool at all.


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From koolaidwino at xxx.com  Mon Aug  7 04:15:46 2000
From: koolaidwino at xxx.com (brad !)
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 23:15:46 EDT
Subject: Sinister: aphids and bollweevils and no-see-um flies
Message-ID: <F22yfwjHNuQuN6tdqVv000008f3@hotmail.com>

to the person who suggested i go to publix deli for the cuban and drink 
newcastle rather pbr, i have this to say to you:

it WAS at a publix deli, and really i WAS drinking newcastle. i said pbr 
because i consider myself a man of the people and if they knew that i paid 
fifteen bucks for twelve bottles of beer, they might reconsider their 
opinions of me and see me for the bourgeois private school boy i really am. 
and i didn't really get a hooker. i quit looking when the fuzz started 
following me.

why are the band getting heat for not touring. so what if they don't tour. 
and if you think you're being cheated because you bought their albums and 
they don't give you the pleasure of seeing them in a crowded smoky club, 
maybe you should sell those albums because it's well apparent to me that 
they don't give a shit about you. that's sarcasm. but really, why should the 
band give a shit about us. all we seem to do is bitch and moan whenever they 
put out something that we don't think lives up to what we hoped it would 
sound like. i for one like the new album and i'm glad they are exploring 
different musical avenues. it would've gotten really boring really fast if 
they kept putting out sinister under a different album title. seriously, 
they're not making records for us. they're making them for themselves i 
hope. it doesn't make a lick of difference to them if timmy from tucson 
thinks the last album wasn't as good as the first or he's pissed because 
they decided to postpone touring for a couple of months.

see what you've made me do? i'm not supposed to send in serious mails. now 
you've got me all fucked up.

-brad



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From declan63 at xxx.com  Mon Aug  7 04:41:10 2000
From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 23:41:10 -0400
Subject: Sinister: aphids and bollweevils and no-see-um flies
References: <F22yfwjHNuQuN6tdqVv000008f3@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <000901c00021$5438c020$2a101218@athen1.ga.home.com>


----- Original Message -----
From: "brad !" <koolaidwino at xxx.com>
To: <sinister at missprint.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 11:15 PM
Subject: Sinister: aphids and bollweevils and no-see-um flies


> to the person who suggested i go to publix deli for the cuban and drink
> newcastle rather pbr, i have this to say to you:
>
> it WAS at a publix deli, and really i WAS drinking newcastle. i said pbr
> because i consider myself a man of the people and if they knew that i paid
> fifteen bucks for twelve bottles of beer, they might reconsider their
> opinions of me and see me for the bourgeois private school boy i really am.
> and i didn't really get a hooker. i quit looking when the fuzz started
> following me.


no, no, i wasn't ordering you to drink newcastle, only stating that i drink it not because it's british but because it's not piss.
i'm certainly not a man of the people and i drink pbr.....which i often have to defend to apalled coors light chuggers.

it's really not worth the effort most times.

sorry to hear that publix failed you.

jay

"between here and there is better than either here or there!"


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From pants at xxx.com  Mon Aug  7 03:41:00 2000
From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler)
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 04:41:00 +0200
Subject: Sinister: Wolves will tear us apart
In-Reply-To: <004701c0000d$c6b37b40$ad8ffacf@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <4.3.1.0.20000807042906.04095dd0@shell12.ba.best.com>

i don't know your personal situation, but people have complicated lives.
it's not always easy to make everyone happy.  travelling to the u.s. is costly.
travellng to europe from the u.s. costs a little less somehow now, but it's 
a pain in
the butt too... try converters...  sometimes it's not always about success, 
it's about
enjoying your life and trying to mitigate the outstanding bizarreness of 
the everyday.
kafka's amerika, monsieur.  infinite jest.  we're hooked on our depends 
undergmts.

btw, in my mind, the u.s. west coast is a pain in the ass to play given the 
lack
of density of population.  granted there is merit within each city, but if 
you're
not a mega.band it costs you to travel.  distance is the mosquito that 
forces you
to scratch your head because you got bit in the middle of the night on the 
temple.

hopefully we're moving to  a crowded house without making splitting enz meet.
how 'bout surfing in finn-egan's wake yourself for a bleeding minute?!?
did 'i get you'?

senor droolcup [ rising from the dad with a solo 'e' void, msr. perec ]

http://www.skratt.net/jinx/

At 08:21 PM 8/6/00 -0500, triumphant loser wrote:
>If someone/persons wouldnt mind shining a little light on this current tour
>buisness, i would be most pleased.I dont know if this has been discussed or
>not(its impossible to read all the posts).All in all i guess this has all
>got me a little angry....i mean how could you have no tour?One would think
>that a state side tour would be of the most importance, trying to reach a
>wider audience, while keeping the dates at a realistic amount.I understand
>that B&S like to keep things low-key....i even respect it, surely there
>comes a time when one must think about the buisness end of things
>though?Keeping ones fanbase and expanding it should be on the mind of any
>band.Its kinda like having a close friend you help out all the time and when
>it comes time for them to help you all you get is a big F*** YOU.....not
>very cool at all.
>
>
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From pants at xxx.com  Mon Aug  7 04:03:32 2000
From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler)
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 05:03:32 +0200
Subject: Sinister: the busy goings ons...
In-Reply-To: <20000805150413.24653.qmail@web618.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.1.0.20000807050230.03cf17c0@shell12.ba.best.com>

shame i'm tied to a job.  i'm dying for being amidst
sinisterites... or sinisterians for that matter.

enjoy the digs.

senor droolcup, from the troll pits in milano.

At 08:04 AM 8/5/00 -0700, idle berry wrote:
>Hello sinisterians,
>Thoutght I ought to post you something with a little
>info while I have it.
>
>If anyone is interested in finding out more about the
>planet pop thing (I've had one or two asking how I
>came to know what I know. I said it was school. Until
>I realised they meant this)
>then go to
>http://www.planetpop.co.uk
>
>or pay a visit to Fopp in Glasgae or Embra for
>details.
>
>Tonight, I am off to the opening night of Planet Pop,
>at the Attic, in the cowgate, to see Silver Pill, Eska
>and Life Without Buoldings.
>
>If anyone wants to come along, and meet me ( a rare
>and special occasion!) then pop along.
>
>Don't know exactly what I shall wear yet, but hey,
>I'll be the girl with the corduroy flares, and
>possibly a green Blue Peter Badge. Nothing else. Going
>naked otherwise. Nude feet. The lot.
>
>So with that wee combo, I'm sure I'll be dead
>recognisable. ;-)
>
>Afterwards, hoping to head out to the Art College to
>get on down with some funky indie beats at the Egg.
>
>Yet again, anyone welcome, come and join in hassling
>the DJ for B+S entire catalogue.
>
>Then,I'm off to Bournemouth.
>
>Okay?
>
>Love
>Idles
>
>
>
>
>=====
>http://www.geocities.com/idleberry
>try http://welcome.to/nothingtowear for a change....
>
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From shop at xxx.net  Mon Aug  7 13:59:44 2000
From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 13:59:44 +0100
Subject: Sinister: new news
Message-ID: <001201c0006f$79dbed40$387aa8c2@pricelessoem>

hello all,

the b&s news page has been update with a wee note from stuart, go have a squizzy at http://www.myspace.co.uk/belleandsebastian/news.html

cheers,
the banchory lot.

banchory merchandising ltd.   
e-mail: shop at banchory.net
po box 25074   glasgow   g2 6yl   scotland

http://www.banchory.net

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From sosaidkay at xxx.com  Mon Aug  7 14:16:13 2000
From: sosaidkay at xxx.com (Matthew Stead)
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 13:16:13 GMT
Subject: Sinister: yummy yummy sinister 
Message-ID: <F2242iQQcHuaaDFSN2e00004b28@hotmail.com>

Hello Pretty People,

I was at Newquay this weekend, getting very burnt sat on a beach watching 
surfy types and getting drunk. I suddenly realised that I loved the winter 
and wished it was Crimbo very soon. I bored of summer. Summer wasting is 
very good but cos I've just finished uni the summer reminds me of hanging 
around waiting for the new start. I love winter. I love listening to 
Tigermilk and IYFS all wrapped up in woolly jumpers and scarf. Plus the 
winter is way more romantic than summer. Christmas is a right fine time to 
find a girlie. I think I have reverse SAD or whatever.

On the plus side I just got my lurvely B&S ampersand tee and my longsleeved 
B&W Fishyclap girl one. They are GRATE and are so far the only B&S clothes 
that fit me. Yipppeeeeee!

AND I've got an interview for a job in Bristol next week. I may be moving 
back down there from sleepy ole Gloucestershire which will be brill!

Oh yeah, forgot to say. I'm a newby (to the list) I'm called Maffoo am 21 
and love B&S music and people! I was on the list a coupla years back in my 
first year at uni. And its still GRATE.

Poo. Methinks I missed Trembling Blue Stars in London. Were they good? I 
hope so. Is anyone going to see SFAnimals play at Ross on Wye?

Does anyone love the winter more than the summer too? Are Amanda Bergman, 
Roberta McKay or Brien who sent me all manners of GRATE stuff a few years 
back. Amanda.. I still have my Tigersmilk bar hanging in my room. It looks 
ace!

Enuff rambling.

Take Care
Maffoo S      :0) :0) :0)

"She was into S&M and bible studies. 'Not everyone's cup of tea' she would 
admit to me"

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From lixibell at xxx.com  Mon Aug  7 15:59:11 2000
From: lixibell at xxx.com (alix campbell)
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 14:59:11 GMT
Subject: Sinister: house of lords, sweetie!
Message-ID: <F799Eg6mn1b2Yu6s93X0000a263@hotmail.com>

hello petit singes

you know that feeling when you're going to move house, and even though its 
ages away yet you want to start packing? i feel like that. i want to put 
everything into boxes, then unpack them all again. and then repack. you have 
to pack over and over, to make sure that everything's packed properly. only, 
there's sod all point in packing when you're not moving for a month. thats 
why i write email, to prevent me packing everything up and making me live 
out of boxes for the next few weeks.

often when i'm having a conversation in a crowded room i find that either 
myself or the people i'm talking to will pick up something someone nearby 
uninvolved is saying and introduce it as a topic. using this kind of 
transmission, do you think an issue has been passed along for miles and 
miles? i'd like to be able to track the progress of a rumour, and see how it 
gets around. i might make up a story which i can recognise, tell it to a 
bunch of people, then see how long it is before i get told it myself. i 
can't think of any stories though. i once told my mum the one about scottish 
ice cream vans, and she bought it. not many people know the one about the 
scottish ice cream vans. mainly because i made it up.

pauline. l. shivers wrote some stuff, and i enjoyed that. do write some 
more.

last friday i came home from work and had a bath, intending to have a nice 
early night so i would make it into work next day, i was apprehended by our 
terribly shrill doorbell. 'what foul fiend is this, lurking at my casement?' 
i wondered, as if my brain had suddenly been hijacked by the spirit of Mary 
Shelley. it was ok however; it was only JuicyLucy, not some hideous wretch. 
i invited her up and offered her a brandy snap. after at least 10 minutes of 
  vicious, near fatal coercion she convinced me to Go Out that night. later 
i found myself listening to Little Geddes spinning discs and inspecting 
Isobel's diminished rear. then myself trousers and dastoor commandeered a 
taxi cab and embarked on a tour of the all night garages of Stoke Newington. 
Such merriment and versatility of mind was almost too much for the poor 
cabbie. by this point i'd decided that should i go to sleep, i would be very 
unlikely to get up in time for work. we were entertained chez dastoor for a 
few hours, with cheese and crackers, and trousers snoring. then we walked 
home, then i went into work. my folly became apparent around 9am, 2 hours 
into my shift, when i realised that i couldn't walk straight, talk 
coherently or focus on anything. 10.30 found me in the canteen, staring into 
a cup of coffee which didnt look too great. still, at 16p a go, what did i 
expect? came home at 1pm, and fell asleep for hours.

many happy returns to mr. steadymike.

now, what else did i want to say? i've just made a tape for my friend the 
goth with appendicitis abigail. i wonder what she'll think. i personally 
think she'll love the go betweens. really. if she doesn't i'll punch her in 
the stomach and say 'now which do you like most, the go betweens or your 
stitches bursting?' i think she'll see things my way eventually. unless she 
faints.

byebye
lixi


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From idleberry at xxx.com  Mon Aug  7 16:50:17 2000
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 08:50:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: where can I go? 
Message-ID: <20000807155017.12407.qmail@web616.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello dears,

Well, here I am, made the trek southwards.

Feeling a little confused, as I often do, but I think
its due to the huge lack of my knoweledge of
Bournemouth, except that my dad went to college here
and my boyfriend lives here.

I think what I also miss is the holy land that is
Embra. Okay, Glasgow too, but I have more B+S fan
friends in Embra.

And I don't know the local geography. And wheres all
the cool indie clubs where they will play at least two
b+s songs, a pixies song and a Smiths song? And wheres
all the cool indie kids where you can sit in parks for
hours and deliberate on your favourite things and
still not have enough time to fit in all the things
you ever wanted to say?

And as you lot have probably guessed, I have a lot to
say.

And where can a girlie go and get a cup of coffee here
and sit around looking cool and interesting and feel
comfortable?

And does such a girlie exist? cos its surely not me.

So if there are any bournemouth sinisterians out
there, let me know where a girl can have  good time.

Apart from under the duvet.

I need to compile my Bournemouth mega database.

So I can feel at home.

Are there any B+S fans besides me and the Major
(boyfriend) this far south?

Another thing, about the B+S thing on telly (sound
track).

Just to fill you in, I read in a rude book of
alternative words for naughty words, that to "defrost
the fridge" means something... well, that a boy can do
if he is frustrated. You know, like spanking the
monkey. Having a slap around with the one eyed trouser
snake.

So now you know. And if I giggle mid way through Slow
Graffiti you have a good idea why.

It was one of those books you know, and it was a
Sunday, and we were in Ipswich, and we has nothing
better to do.

Okay, well, hoping someone has some useful advice
about Bournemouth. Come on, give me the Alternative B
to S guide of this little town.

Love,
Idles.

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From jasonandreas at xxx.net  Mon Aug  7 17:08:22 2000
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 17:08:22 +0100
Subject: Sinister: the stench of sinster
Message-ID: <000b01c00089$b68409c0$668c183e@default>

There's a sinister feeling in the air.

The Sinister Wolf [me] is out on the prowl, and has come across something
that makes him smile. He found, in Union Street, a new branch of Fopp, a
little record shop that offers some nice deals. This made him happy, and he
went in and bought "Meat Is Murder" by The Smiths. This is the wolf's first
Smiths experience, and he doesn't know quite what to think. Time shall
tell...

I now have that most rare of commodities: a job! The wages are good, the
people are nice, and there's been no work so far <smiles> All this will
change in a few days, but I'm enjoying it while I can, before it's too late
;)

Am waiting with dangling hope for my first paycheck, so I can go straight
out and buy a ticket to see THE WHO!!!!!  I never thought I'd ever get the
chance to see them - I'm so so happy if I do get the chance ;) If not, then
I'll probably cry a lot. And maybe even swear... ;0

Wishing upon every star that B&S will play somewhere this year. Just as long
as it doesn't co-incide with Radiohead, otherwise I'd be torn apart...

Have been tangling myself in lurve webs again. Desperately seeking a way
out. Could involve me having to avoid a gal who's became one of my best
friends cos if she finds out I like her she'll hate me for it. Came close to
telling her last night. Stangeness is rife. Kissed a lesbian on Saturday
night - stranger still. Odd experiences abound. When will the madness end?

Got sent a file called "Farmer Sutra" *sighs and shakes head wearily*

People are actually takign me seriously at a time in my life when, for the
first time ever, I don't really *want* to be taken seriously. Life scary.

E.T. is looking at me. He's been my friend for years, and is looking grand
in his jock bunnet and shades. If anyone wants to see him, mail me off-list
for a picture.

Should probably go and regret something.

Bye
xx
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Guardian of the Obvious

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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Mon Aug  7 20:42:32 2000
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 20:42:32 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Feltzectronic Vanessance
Message-ID: <200008071940.UAA29017@missprint.org>

Hello!

I was gonna write about loads of things, but I have forgotten about half 
of it, possibly due to not having much sleep for absolutely ages..

Had some king weird dreams lately, but none too b&s related I'm afraid, I 
was even more afraid of this dream I had about the underground station got 
blown up when I was inside and loads of people died and stuff but somehow 
I survived and then I woke up it was well scary.

GOOD LUCK to all ya young'uns waiting for your A-Level results.. I remember 
the age old time when I was waiting for my results, I wouldn't worry too 
much about it tho cos it doesn't change anything by worrying.  Just drink 
loads of Red Bull and you'd be fine :-)

After reading clb at york's mails about electronic renaissance (think it was 
last month!  I'm being a bit slow) I listened to it again and it was 
actually quite good.  Although, another song was even better, it's called 
"Acoustic Renaissance" (my version of the song on the acoustic guitar).. 
it was absolutely wicked!

Bought the Looper Geometrid CD the other day (told you I'm slow!) and quite 
liked it.. it seems to have pleased the guy in the office who likes 
Fat Boy Slim more than B&S...

I hope Sinister will never die, because Sinister, it's where we live!

Udon Noodles and Red Bulls!
Ken
P.S.: This e-mail definitely complied with the 15 minute rule, cos I 
started yesterday, and then the server of SillyEverything, the internet 
cafe decided to crash and had to shut down all of their shops in London 
for a day and kicked us all out! :-(
P.P.S: Since then I have also bought all them love songs by the Magnetic 
Fields and they are grate! 
P.P.P.S: P.S.ing is fun
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All wrapped up in her winter wardrobe, she hurries by so fast!
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From pixidustlady at xxx.uk  Mon Aug  7 21:02:46 2000
From: pixidustlady at xxx.uk (the original pixidustlady)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 21:02:46 +0100
Subject: Sinister: my very first belle and sebastian dream - i'm so proud!!
Message-ID: <000701c000aa$c9737040$5d1786d4@pixidustlady>

i never thought it would happen.
usually when i dream its about something happening in my life, its all
relevant and underlying subconsious etc etc.  and i've noticed that my
dreams are always very rigidly structured, 3 parts, usually totally
unconnected, but still sort of like a beginning, a middle and an end.
anyway, my dream.....
i'm in new york, trying to buy a map so that i can find my way around.  i
look at the display in this shop which is a 7/11, but looks dead posh, and
they've got guide books to orkney, which i find very strange, but also
somehow flattering.  i pick out two maps and take them to the counter.  on
my way i notice a drinks cooler with a large cutout of celine dion inside,
and loads of unmarked bottles, as if the cardboard cut-out of C.D. is enough
in itself to sell these unlabelled, potentially poisonous drinks.  i decide
not to have one, even though i'm really thirsty.  i go to pay for my maps,
but all i have is pounds sterling, no dollars, and i feel a right tit for
not getting any currency before i go on holiday.  the cashier says no
problem, and takes my fiver.
then i'm in a big warehouse/theatre kinda place (which also bears more than
a passing resemblance to my living room) and i'm at a Lee and Herring
(remember them?) roadshow.  ****small note - when i remember this bit in the
morning, i also remember about dreaming about Lee and herring previously****
anyway, they're doing their thing, until it comes to the part of the show
dedicated to music.  they've got this car on stage, which has a large model
fish stuck to the roof.  at this point, i seem to have got onto the stage
with my cuddly toy leopard 'dave'.  then Stuart Murdoch appears and sings a
song.  me and him and lee and herring are all sitting in the car while he
does the song.  at the end, when we get out, i realise that we're making the
video for the song.  then Stuart starts thanking me and hugging and kissing
me.  everyone else just sortof disappears, and we're hanging out in this
warehouse, which is full of cool  stuff and bits and pieces, like an old
junk shop full of kitsch collectables or something.  when its time to go, it
takes ages to go around and check that all the lights are off and the
windows and doors are locked, and i keep discovering new rooms.
then i find a room with people in, and me and stuart realise that they're
squatting and waiting for an illegal rave to start, so we throw them out and
block the entrance with the car.  these squatters have a blue car which they
try and reverse into us, but instead they manage to reverse into the
ditch/moat that's surrounding the warehouse (me and stuart are parked on the
bridge).  theres loads of people in the car and they cant get out, but then
this big butch woman comes and picks up the car (not really though, cos its
supported by the water)  and sort of pushes it underneath the bridge.  this
breaks the bridge though.  we get the car off it but then clamber back
across, trying not to dislodge any more boards.

this is all i can remember, although i think there might have been more.
dont know what it all means, although having written it all out like this i
do recognise issues that my brain is trying to deal with at the moment -
security, finding my way around a new area, and wanting to feel needed - and
i know why lee and herring were in it.  i flicked over a really old live
show of theirs on UKplay, from 1996 or something daft like that.  i dont
know why stuart murdoch was in it though.....
well, this post has become hugely elongated and probably given you all more
of an insight into my brain than you really would have liked so i'll stop.
interpretations always received with appreciation.........
the pixi xxxxxxxxxxxx

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From iaradcliffe at xxx.com  Mon Aug  7 21:58:26 2000
From: iaradcliffe at xxx.com (Iain Radcliffe)
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 21:58:26 BST
Subject: Sinister: Some random bullshit
Message-ID: <LAW2-F1424Be9N8jzt3000036d2@hotmail.com>

Hi, how's it hanging? Nice one.

Someone mentioned breasts, so I thought I'd contribute an Alistair Cook 
style poem:

I'm most impressed,
With your pendulous breasts,
But may I suggest,
It's time you got dressed.

Mmmmm....not bad....

Of course, no one will take offence in this post post modern, post feminist, 
post PC kultur, will they?
But there is probably a line somewhere between being non PC and a bit saucy 
(where I aim, but do I hit?) and being lager lout esque "get yer tits out 
darling!"
Possibly not the most original or intelligent of popular Saturday night 
phrases heard up and down our little island. Pity some girls comply with the 
request.
Or is it? You have your say.

Anyway, I didn't mean to bang on about PC/Laddism/Ladetteism/Bristols etc.

I saw a shop when I was driving home tonight called "Grate Ideas" - 
apparently a decorative fireplace emporium. I would suggest people make a 
point of purchasing their fireplace at said emporium in future, 'cos it 
would be a grate grate - you can be sure of it.

Good to see Jenowl back from Spain, and still winning my unofficial award of 
Best Poster Ever....3
Who are your favourite posters ? Let's have a vote...or not.

The police must be inept, they still haven't caught that Bill Posters 
chappie, and apparently he "Will be prosecuted".

Aye well. I've been watching far too much Vic and Bob recently.
I'll be off to finish Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, which, to be 
fair, is fucking brilliant.
Love and fondles,
Jarvis (sponsored by both Orange and Apple)

P.S. Webster's savoury tights for men come in three delicious flavours: 
Butterscotch, Cockerel and Pork Pie.
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From feather-boa at xxx.com  Mon Aug  7 23:56:44 2000
From: feather-boa at xxx.com (feather boa)
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 15:56:44 -0700
Subject: Sinister: but sitting in my army coat, i think i've got the look
Message-ID: <OLPLJDFNFDMACAAA@shared3.whowhere.com>

hello all.

i have been trying to save up information, but after a while it just gets too much and i want to splurge it all over your inboxes.



i'm going up to "Embra" (as the charming Idleberry calls it) on thursday for the festival.  me and some friends are staying in the halls until sunday, which we did last year too.  if there's karaoke at the pleasance again then i will be there howling along to moon river or some such mor nonsense.

do you remember i told you i was going to tate modern ever so early on a tuesday morning?  well, i went and it was fantastic, just brilliant - they've got a whole room of andy warhols and it's all free which is an extra special treat for me as an empovrished almost-student.  but the point of mentioning that was that as i got on my bus to get to the tube station there was a gentleman in a belle and sebastian t-shirt getting on another bus.  which made me quite happy because i did think that i was the only belle and sebastian fan in shepherd's bush since Derek-the-Canadian moved back to Canada.  So maybe i will have someone to share a night bus home with after all.

and David Strange said

"Finally I'm so very happy as the one the only Sophie-Ellis-Bexter is back in

the music,

even if it is on a dodgy dance record. My goodness me she is so lovely and

her

cheekbones oh they are to die for."

which was extremely unfortunate, because i have been waging war on the thingy-bobble woman for quite some time now, as elephants who read melody maker might remember.  but all's fair in the music industry, and if that spiller song gets to number one then i think i'm going to kill feather boa off.  except then i might have to reveal my own name, which only some people know.  just for the record my vendetta against ms ellis-bexter is not because i'm jealous but because she was one of the hard scarey older girls at my school and she once pushed in front of me in the lunch queue (maybe).

oh i'd also like to point out that while B&S are unusually prolific for recent times, elvis recorded 2 albums (both went gold) 4 singles (2 multi-platinum and 2 platinum) and 7 eps (3 platinum and 4 gold), all in 1956 (oh alright, some were re-releases, but not all) so they do kind of pale in comparison.

i think that's everything.  and it *nearly* took me 15 minutes.

pip pip,

FB (for the moment)

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From DelyM2 at xxx.com  Tue Aug  8 04:51:16 2000
From: DelyM2 at xxx.com (DelyM2 at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 23:51:16 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Long Live Queen Rose
Message-ID: <200008080349.EAA27837@missprint.org>

Finally, I've found a snow patrol album at a local record store.  Absolute gravity is my favorite so far. Nothing to do with the lyrics of the song, rather my love for things that are in some way (and i stress "in some way") similar to silly 80's rap.    I've always wanted to try my hand at scrathing. I bet I'd be awesome.  

Break dancing is another thing I've got to learn before i die.     Thats right i can not pass through this world with out a little spinning action on my rear.    Hopefully i might find a book (ie: Break Dancing for Dummies)   that can teach my stiff ass how to move.  (and groove)     .  

As far as dreams go, religious zombies with chainsaws fill my starry nights.    and i love it. 

PS: Is there some kind of rotting tree in Glasgow that is a must see??  



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From 50158120 at xxx.hk  Tue Aug  8 05:57:58 2000
From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 12:57:58 +0800
Subject: Sinister: Toby is a Dict Slap
Message-ID: <965710678.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk>

Mates/

T W E E

What is TWEE/
Twee is poetic or/ can anyone define it/
or it can not be defined/ even u can look it at your dict
am i twee

D O T L O V E

Now I am working for dotlove.com/
And I am working for its musicl channel/
I love it/ Check it out/ Look at my debut article/
Primal Scream Live Review/

T W E E   S O U N D

I ve found that HMV HONG KONG huv the 12inch of High Fidelity
OST/ I bought the CD from Second Hand CD shop/
Elvis C sing Shipbuilding/ It is 100times better than
Suede version/ 

I ve got Shinkansen Compilation at the nearly close down
Tower Record Store in Hong Kong/
I ve never heard any sarad or shinkansen things/ 
I love Blueboy/ Melancholia is like b n s things
I requested our writer to write a review on it/ 
it can be seen tomorrow/ both chinese and english at dotlove.com/ 

T W E E   W E A R

Finally I ve got my Belle and Sebastian <Fashion Wear>/
it is not wu wear it is twee wear/ It is the & sign and 
the bus/ I ve three now/ with my belle n fox/ I lack
a long sleeves tee but the fishclap is too girlie for me/
and cliche as the legal man tee/ I ve got the patch too
and I will make it on my parka/ which is nice

R A V E

I ve been in a Rave in Hong Kong/ In a ferry Terminal
The vibe is fucking bad even i can smell the scent of dope/Progressive 
House Mates/ I hate the young kids/ Who can be a better raver/
jist a little thing make a big difference/ for example a boy
with good hairdo and killer chop tee and Underground boot/
but he wear a boot cut jean/ fuck/ i went at 5am coz i was doing 
interview with another club house/The DJs are alright/ I met a lady mate 
i know and she hug me/ Me and the mates dance all nite/ We went to eat 
Dim Sum afterward/ which is 7AM and all the senior citizens are enjoy 
their breakfast/ luckily my mates are not dress like serious ravers/  

Toby C
Island East,
Hong Kong


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From chamomile1 at xxx.com  Tue Aug  8 08:17:27 2000
From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 07:17:27 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Feel my pulse.
Message-ID: <F91wxX7XzZPny8o6HO70000012a@hotmail.com>

And horse is a horse.

Greetings. The days are becoming shorter, my head hurts and I'm trying to 
smoke less these days. But enough about this bitching. Let's rock.

My fellow finn Janne told us that his attending our very own army in a month 
or two. So, 6 months of playing hide and seek in the woods, talking dirty 
with your fellow soldiermates and getting extremly drunk every weekend then, 
eh? 'Cause that's what they do in the Finnish army these days. But I know 
nothing about that one, since I went to civil service. My advice to Janne, 
who is suffering from "You're going to make us proud, son!"- syndrome, 
coming from his parents: Tell then to f��� off. Go to civil service, even if 
they don't want you to. I got the job I'm doing now just because I spent a 
year at the Open University surfing the net and flirting with the middleaged 
women at the office. That was pretty much all I did when I went the 
cservice.

Anyhoo, people here have been mad about Godspeed you black Emperor (browse 
the archives for more info). Well I bought it about two weeks ago. Three 
songs, 63 minutes. The last song opens with 8 minutes of nothing in 
particular, just some silent noise. Nice.

No, actually I thought it was a bit crap.

Can't wait for that new Hefner single/album to come out. Now there's some 
music.

That's it, now for the listabuse part. I'm sorry about this, but I've been 
trying to do a homepage for myself, and now I need your help. Check this 
out:

http://www.fraja.freeservers.com

And tell me what you think. The pages are still not quite finished, and I'm 
thinking about keeping a webdiary there. But I've been thinking of coming up 
with something Hefner/B&S- related in there (not just links to their pages, 
that is). Maybe I'll write some stories that have a Hefner/B&S- theme. And 
possibly some kind of a survey coming up too... I don't know yet. But hey, 
If you visit them, please drop me a line.

Sorry, this is the last abusive mail (listwise, that is) I'll ever write. 
Until next time, of course.

-Jake (no more petit, cuase that's just WRONG)

ps: And hey, everyone who knows something about the art of homepages: mail 
me. I'd like to ask you some questions.
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From joefri714 at xxx.com  Tue Aug  8 09:08:28 2000
From: joefri714 at xxx.com (*Boygirlorder *)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 08:08:28 GMT
Subject: Sinister: justified misanthropy
Message-ID: <LAW2-F221ciGbN23Wvg00003de6@hotmail.com>

Hello all you sinister folks�.its been a bunch of months since you guys have 
heard from me�that�s good for you�..but I thought id let you in on my little 
world�.well I thought id force it one you�..even though you wont care�I like 
you guys�..Ok, well�today was absolutely the worst day ive had in a very 
very long time�nay, perhaps ever�.i woke up at 10 o�clock when I received a 
phonecall from an irate dental assistant yelling at me for missing my 
appointment.. she also informed that in addition to having to reschedule my 
drilling and needles have to pay a 20 dollar cancellation fee..then I went 
to work delivering pizzas to fat fuckers who don�t tip in 100 degree weather 
for nine hours �.i made a marvelously delicious pizza and proceeded to vomit 
it up as a part of my burgeoning bulimic regimen �.i them proceeded to drive 
home from work�along the way my car stalled three times and I thought I 
might die�I walked into my house as my sister opened the last soda in the 
house�.then my girlfriend came over and we decided to just sit around and 
play some video games�we went to three blockbusters looking for tony hawks 
pro skater�no one had it�so I settled for cool boarders�.which DOESN�T 
WORK��so we proceeded to her house to watch some tv�as I left her house we 
noticed a car alarm going off and commented jokingly upon the mad crazy 
robbers that would probably kill us that night�I stepped into my car and 
started it�then I noticed that some punks stole my cd player and about 75 
cds�..i called the police and spoke to some bitch who yelled at me for 
speaking too quietly�.(you have to love those new jersey police)�.i sat 
around and waited for the cops for about 40 mins�.keep in mind this is at 3 
am�where the hell were they�..they took all my information and told me that 
I was pretty much completely screwed�.what the fuck to a bunch of punks need 
my cds for�I cant see some kid enthralled in some family fight to a 
soundtrack of trembling blue stars�.or pimping in their g-ride cruising the 
strip for hoes blasting the gerbils�..i wish they had just stole the damn 
car and left the cds�.im looking for a new car and the cds are worth three 
times what the car is�.i also have to pay 400 dollars for car insurance, 250 
for a phone bill after a botched internet set up that left me calling a long 
distance number unbeknownst to me for a month and a half, a few hundred 
bucks for school books, and a replacement pair of glasses since I stepped on 
mine yesterday�.they also stole my goddamn cigarettes�.so I drove away from 
my gf�s house �.went to the store and bought some new ones�.i drove around 
in silence chain smoking for about ten mins�.then I decided to turn on the 
radio�..i never listen to the radio because as a rule it sucks &#61514;�..i 
turned on the one station I used to listen to back in middle 
school�princeton radio wprb�..first thing I heard: �theres too much 
love��..that lifted my spirit for a little bit�reassured me that I still 
love b&s�.then they plated some noisey pretentious indie rock velvet 
underground part 15�..oh well�.i upped my paxil dose�..i plan on spending 
tommorow drunk or high, or both�.im sorry all of you sinister folks�..but I 
had to tell someone�.you prolly all think im a giant cock now�..am not 
have.,�also anyone in the philadelphia area�.im thinking of having a 
picnic�.not actually in the city�.but I was gonna have one for me and my 
friends�.and if any of you wanted to hang out with little old boring 
imposing and rude me��please do�..its gonna be in washington township�.right 
outside of philly��let me know�..

                    With love kisses and suspension points���
                                                                             
                                        mark!

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From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk  Tue Aug  8 11:00:24 2000
From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 11:00:24 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: If YouR FrIeNdS All BiTcH, YoU'Re A PuNkA!!!
Message-ID: <20000808100024.16637.qmail@web3001.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello sinistah land...
Well, you won't believe that, neither can I really,
but I had a 
               B&S ReLaTeD DrEaM
and I thought only twee kids have those...
mmm not really tho'... it was more like a sinister
related dream...
In my dream I was in London, driving an open 60s car;
Mao, my mum, and my sister were in the car with me...
We were going to this boarding school where I was
supposed to spend the rest of my life (!?)...
On our way there, my mum and sister saw this fancy 
                     LiNgEriE ShoP
and made me pull over so they could go shopping...
I left them there and kept driving, when I saw a tall
guy riding a really tiny scooter (not one of those
cool silver ones, Lucy)... it was funny cause his legs
were almost touching the ground as he was riding...
and guess who it was... mmm...
                   AllY-CiNnAmoN-CooK
yes.. so I recognised him but he didn't recognise me,
so I drove by him singing "I could be dreaming"... he
didn't look at me but he was smiling... he was going
to this boarding school too... we arrived there
together..
Ally with his knees almost touching the ground as he
was riding and me singing driving next to him...
stylistic details: 
I was wearing 60s clothes of course... a midi black
skirt, and a nice tight leather jacket, and kitty
heels!! 
We arrived at this boarding school somewhere in the
countryside where all sinister people were supposed to
live... I parked the car and dashed to Ally Cinnamon,
who said "aw Vel, I knew you'd make it! come I have to
introduce you to everyone.." So, he grabbed me and we
went to meet Lucy... Juicy Lucy that is... Lucy had
long hair and was looking very pretty but serious
too..
She told me that she had a really responsible post
there, at this sini-boarding school...
And there was a gig going on... and that's the funny
part, cause there was a classical orchestra playing
with an old school punk rock band... aww.. blame 
     HaNNaH PoPs and Miss CaReY 
for that as we kept playing "PuNkA" in #sinister last
night... 
And there was this old ginger chap there with a big
moustache and funny hair who was playing an instrument
called TubA, and then one of the blokes of the punk
band came along and pushed him and the old ginger
tumba bloke got insulted and left... but he was
brought back... 
HonEyBooBLeS was there as well...  she was wearing a
tight black dress, very elegant I have to say, with a
nice string of perles...
     co-ordinating the whole thing... then honey said
we should all go upstairs cause the film was going to
start! and guess what film it was...
        A 20s PoRnO FilM...
tis true... for 'educational reasons' they said..
hehe... I went upstairs with LiXi and PauL the
GinGeRCRooK and sat down... the place was packed!
And everyone was there... I saw 
                Erica, and we went out for a fag
commenting on each others clothes, of course...
But I woke up before I saw the 20s porno film...
Aww...
Why did I have such a dream? Maybe cause I'm coming to
London on the 
                           26th of AuGusT?
Maybe... just maybe... 
Maybe, cause we are going to have a 
            PicNiC on the 27th AuGusT?
mmmm .... maybe...  WhaT? you had no idea about the
picnic? well, it's not really certain yet, but it
seems very likable... almost certain...
       maybe cause I'm going to stay there
for 2 whole weeks and meet you all, I hope?
                                      definetely!!
I just can't wait... fingers crossed nothing bad will
happen again, cause with all this bad luck lately...
"it's a JinX, it's a JinX, it's a JinX..."
take care all of you...
        HuGs
 Vel xxx

PS: Greets from my twin and blue prince, GHD... he
says, "honey I'll have the post sorted soon... had no
time... mmmm"
PpS: Laura Llew is... I have no words... she's my
fellow spinisterine and one of my most fave people
ever in the whole world... on my way to work I made
this uP:
       Laura Llew sniffin'the glue
       wonderin' why she has no clue
         oh yeah
       staring at the clouds
       laughs and frowns
       ponders on the meaning of it all
       dressing up her little broken doll
       Oh Miss Lovely Laura Llew
       all dressed up in ocean blue
       I can help but be sincere to you 
        when i'm sayin  "I do love you"
Sorry Laura.... I know it's silly... but i just wanted
to make you smile... are you smiling??



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From hewits at xxx.uk  Tue Aug  8 12:17:26 2000
From: hewits at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 12:17:26 +0100 
Subject: Sinister: Never been so far away...
Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69015A139F@park_ex>

...I don't think I want to stay in this room Anymore...

Finally the "Steve searching for a flat in Oxford" saga comes to an end.
And with strange spooky sinister-related coincidence to boot.  Within a few
weeks I shall be neighbours with a fellow sinisterine (hi ben) despite no
effort to make this happen, we've just both got new flats in the same
street.  Spoooooky.  And it's just off Cowley Road (the heart of alt.oxford,
apparently), where there are lots of pubs and where bands play, which is
nice (and it has a cooker and a bed and a fridge, which is more than our
other choice did)

...If I crawl across the floor Then I'd be closer to that door It's too
far...

I've just looked at what struan wrote on the b&s page  here:
http://www.myspace.co.uk/belleandsebastian/news.html
GO AND LOOK AT IT NOW, Beans will cook you a curry, Richard will give you
snooker lessons, and Stevie will come and sing you a song!!!!!!!  Stuart
doesn't say what he's offering yet, but who knows, I'm sure Ms Wesley has
bookloads of ideas ;)  And it's all for charidy, mate.  Everyone must think
of something they can offer too, and then they can auction their talents,
what a GRATE idea, innit (maybe i could give dancing lessons).  It'll
certainly keep stuart busy until the tour.

...Never been so far away Just lost the last thought in my head What happens
now?...

Oh, apparently, according to my mate (who is distributing flyers), there is
to be a "belle & sebastian DJ set" at the Greenbelt Festival here in sunny
Cheltenham over the bank holiday weekend. Oh look here's the website:
http://www.greenbelt.org.uk/festival/lineup/music.html  Richard and Chris
will  "treat us to a special DJ set" it says here.  May I suggest that miss
STARRY and miss LIXI have a look at who's headlining Sunday nite :) 

...Some fantasy you've been...

However, I'll be at Reading (oh look, another link:
http://www.egroups.com/group/sinireading )which is a bit of a pain, oh and i
won't be living in cheltenham then anyway, eek!  bloody typical TWO WEEKS
after i leave, the buggers show up.  I think it's going to take me a while
to get used to this, I have been in Chelt for 8 years now, it's all a bit
scary, this moving to a new town lark.  However it's nice to know I have a
small band of sinisterines to look after me :)

...Pick up the pieces in my mind...

I'm not sure if i've got e-mail access at my new job, although as it's a
college, I'm assuming I will, but even if i don't i have my little pooter at
home, so you won't get rid of me that easily.  I imagine I won't have such
easy access to #sinister though (could i possibly do less work than i do
now?), so i might not be in there as much.  Right, better go and find some
boxes and get packing.

...I'm going home

xoxo
(hmm, maybe i should reverse that now)
CarsmileSteve
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From paulinel_s at xxx.com  Tue Aug  8 13:24:41 2000
From: paulinel_s at xxx.com (Pauline L. Shivers)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 05:24:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: That Sugar Baby O'Mine
Message-ID: <20000808122441.25871.qmail@web6103.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello sinister peeps,
I'm so frustrated; you see the weekend approaches
really fast and we have this family reunion where my
Big Aunt Myrtles will be presiding.
And you will think: so who is this aunt Myrtles?
Oh, Big Aunt Myrtles, the turtle of my childhood, she
is the most fearsome woman in Europe...
Big Aunt Myrtles was my grandfather's younger sister.
You remember my grandfather, the disinherited love
fool. Yes, that's the one.
So auntie inherited all great grandfather's fortune.
She is disgustingly rich. Everything great grandfather
owned should have been gone to my grandfather. But
when he chose love over wealth, everything went to
aunt Myrtles. But, when great-grandfather died she
wrote to my father telling him that she wanted this
family to be united again, and that we should forget
all about these old stories, etc. My father agreed.
And that's how we found ourselves back in Prague 10
years ago.
Big Aunt gave my dad the house we live in Prague and
arranged so we could have a very generous annual
allowance. But she didn't let us have the cottage in
the countryside, we're just allowed to go there
whenever we want, which is Ok, I guess...
Aunt has this chateaux in France where she spends her
summer vacation socialising with people of her class,
slagging others off, organising small trips to play at
the Casino in Monaco, etc.
I remember when I first met her. We went to her house
in Prague, and a butler (not a monkey one, just a
plain english butler) opened the door to us and
announced us to auntie. She accepted us in this huge
room, which ceiling was almost 6 metres high,. It was
perfect in a frozen way, a scary, magnificent museum
with high quality and rare objects. Everything - the
tappiseri gombl�ne, the bronze clock on the marble
shelf of the fireplace, the George Lacompte armchairs,
in a Ludovique IV style, covered with peanut green
velvet, the little marble tables with the golden legs,
the Van Gogh, gaugin, and Renoir paintings - all
gathered together to praise Aunt Myrtles' impecable
taste.
Aunt has this son Theodor whom she wants to marry with
this girl whose family own a chateaux in France as
well. Poor Theodor. We used to call her a turtle
behind her back. She looks like one. With these
bronchocele big eyes and the longest neck ever. it
looks short, but that's deceiving. When she gets mad
she stretches it out and voila! Disgusting!!
She wants to marry me too with this guy who comes from
an aristocratic family in Tuscany. I guess that's one
of the issues to be discussed in the family reunion
thing that takes place at the countryside house of
ours! My God! What have I done to deserve this? And my
poor, spineless dad, thinks that we are eternally
indebted to Aunt Myrtles, and that we should be kind
to her and obey to every little whim of hers.
But I'm not going to marry this italian dandy!! I
swear I won't!! never! I do like auntie's schauffer
you see! Maybe I'm a love fool loser like my granpaps.
who knows.................
bye xx
                 Pauline L. Shivers
                 
that makes sinister all quivers
She's that aristocratic slag
Who lives and reigns in Prague





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From lucyalder at xxx.com  Tue Aug  8 14:53:50 2000
From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 06:53:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister:  finged and unhinged
Message-ID: <20000808135350.10730.qmail@web1607.mail.yahoo.com>

Cor!  I don't know about you, but the idea of paying to receive personal services from members of
my favourite band makes me tremble.  

Lucy slips into a reverie...  Richard stands close behind her, puts his hand on hers and shows her
the correct way to hold the snooker cue while Stevie, eyes twinkling, sings sweet soul music and
Chris chops a variety of root vegetables vegetables in a saucy apron!  

Ooooh, the very thought of it made me come over all wobbly.  And then I read "A volunteer would
have to decide how far they would be willing to go to utilise their talent" and I nearly fainted
cold on the floor!  I'm not sure what talent I could offer in return though.  Perhaps lessons in
how to spend three hours getting ready for a night out and keep your friends waiting?  I'm quite
good at that, right Lixi?  Aha!  I can fit my whole fist into my mouth.  That's an exceptional
talent, is it not?  So I could maybe teach how to do that, unless it's a genetic can/can't thing
like rolling your tongue or crossing your toes, in which case no amount of teaching would work. 
But mouths are quite stretchy aren't they?  Hmmm.  I'll have to have a think about that one.

Carsmile Steve, are you really moving in down the road from Tapetree Ben?  Vel, are you really
coming to England this time?

It occurred to me that Pauline L Shivers is one of those names you could get a lot of anagrams out
of.  Here are a few:

Nashville Super I
A Level Irish puns
Punish Vera Ellis
I slurp Helen Avis
Hi puss, learn evil

Hands up if you're addicted to Big Brother?  Americans/Canadians/others, do you have Big Brother? 
I think it already exists in bits of Europe.  It's like the Real World, but loads bitchier because
the housemates have to vote for who they want to be ejected from the house each week!  And so does
the public!  Fun!  And their tea bags are rationed and they fight over them.  And there's
snogging!  It was a bit weird watching the snogging though, because it's not a scripted thing like
normal TV or film snogs and they really use tongues too - eurgh!  

Anyway, if you're a total voyeur and like watching real people do the same stuff as you do every
day (although they won't be at the snogging anymore because the male half of the snogging couple
got chucked out at the weekend, but anyway...) go here:

http://www.bigbrother.terra.com/

I think I've written quite enough nonsense for the time being, don't you?

Juicy Lucy


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From janne.lardot at radiolinja.fi  Tue Aug  8 15:27:00 2000
From: janne.lardot at radiolinja.fi (Lardot Janne RL)
Date: 8 Aug 2000 17:27:00 +0300
Subject: Sinister: right. which one of you jokers clued me to the s
 ofa?
Message-ID: <JA8AAAAAA5Zd7wABYQABrlAdAcxU@radiolinja.fi>

hello, i'm sheriff john bunnell.

i believe that cardigans are our future. not _the_ cardigans, but your usual,
woolly cardigans.

there. i've said it.

i'm feeling better now. massive thanga juu's to everyone who sent their
sympathy.

i've just spent a fair few hours to read 200 sinister posts. i had to go
outside for a bit after that. shame that i was on holiday when the pink
floyd/religion debate "raged" on.  not that i would have had anything
worthwhile to add, but...  does anyone remember, when back in the day everyone
talked about the sinister uniform? did anyone suggest jeans and cardigans? and
if not, then why not? and why do people stare people who wear cardigans in
august?

right. it's quoting time:

(eric quoth)
"oh my goodness, countries still do that? I knew germany does, and israel,
but... finland? (no offense) conscription is one of the worst violations of
individual rights, I'd glad the u.s. doesn't do it, unless there's a war...
and even then, I'm not too big on it. I'm sorry for you, I really am. what
is the "alternative" to forced killing, anyway?"

i couldn't have put that better myself. altough i would have probably said that
with more swearing.

i know everyone is bored to tears already about this whole concept, but... like
i said, finland lives under a constant "threat" of being invaded by russia.
sadly, sensible people and b&s-fans are a minority in finland, so the majority
think that having a mandatory military service is the only deterrent to russia
invading us tomorrow.

(roberth "soul boy" smith said)
"Never mind offers of sympathy janne, what you need is offers of marriage!
All you need is a loverly sinister girl to give you the chance for duel
nationality and all your problems will be solved.... or will they just be
beginning? If there are any volenteers to help get janne back in the country
I will be very grateful and I'm sure he will be as well......"

that would indeed be the easiest solution, but alas, no offers of marriage have
yet reached my inbox. rob, mate, do you have any sisters?

(jake (who is a Good Bloke, by the way) uttered)

"My fellow finn Janne told us that his attending our very own army in a month
or two. So, 6 months of playing hide and seek in the woods, talking dirty
with your fellow soldiermates and getting extremly drunk every weekend then,
eh? 'Cause that's what they do in the Finnish army these days. But I know"

too true. thankfully, i don't have to endure that, because like jake, i'll take
the sensible alternative of civil service. but why in the name of satan does
the civil service have to be so long?  6 months of playing with guns or 13
months of civil service? (/irony) it as if the finnish government doesn't want
young men to go to civil service instead of the army. no, no, perish the
thought! (end irony)

"nothing about that one, since I went to civil service. My advice to Janne,
who is suffering from "You're going to make us proud, son!"- syndrome,
coming from his parents: Tell then to f¤¤¤ off. Go to civil service, even if
they don't want you to. I got the job I'm doing now just because I spent a
year at the Open University surfing the net and flirting with the middleaged
women at the office. That was pretty much all I did when I went the
cservice."

that sounds pretty cool. i could do that. but one can't just tell one's parents
to f*** off, you know. one has to whisper it to them when ones parents backs
are turned.

up until yesterday i thought my life was going to be ruined forever because of
the whole conscription thingy, but thankfully nick g's post put my life and
values into some kind of perspective. ok, i'll have to do 13 months of free
community service, but at least i still have my health, for fuck's sake. i
won't quote nick's whole mail here, 'cos this is too long already, but i
sincerely hope that you're going to be alright, nick. everyone, go and read his
mail. now. and delete this one.

-----------------------------------------------***********************----------
---------------------------------------------

why don't they serve free alcohol in workplaces? i mean, is there some kind of
law against it? (probably) i would be motivated to work after a few vodka's...
i might even show up on time for once...

i've been listening to b&s quite a lot lately. i'm playing their bowlie set at
quite a high volume at this very moment, but to my disappointment, none of my
workmates have yet come up to me, and confessed to being a closet b&s fan.
there is hope howerer, for one of the people sitting near me just commented on
my cardigan as i passed her. maybe, just maybe, by playing b&s and wearing b&s
shirts i will spark some kind of reaction in her... some kind of involuntary
reaction, that will invade her consciousness, and make her crave for sweet
indie pop...

time to go, i guess.

i think sinister owns my soul.

 - j a n n e - ( the dickensian philantrope )

p.s. gina, i've tried to mail you for a week now, is there something wrong with
your e-mail, or my head? mail me, your tape will be ready soon...

p.s.s. robert "the smiths" smith, where's that university info you promised me,
you lazy git? don't make me fly to england, take the the train to barnet, and
whoop you like a no good dawg!


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From jonathan.s.lee.98 at xxx.org  Tue Aug  8 15:29:50 2000
From: jonathan.s.lee.98 at xxx.org (Jonathan S. Lee)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:29:50 -0400
Subject: Sinister: #sinister
In-Reply-To: <20000808135350.10730.qmail@web1607.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000d01c00145$1c2a9da0$76011440@lee>

Hello all,

I was wondering if #sinister was an IRC channel. If so, what server is it
on? Thanks.

Jonathan

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From tourajsig2 at xxx.com  Tue Aug  8 15:42:57 2000
From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Jones?=)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 07:42:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: Dreddie and the Creamers
Message-ID: <20000808144257.16152.qmail@web116.yahoomail.com>

Lissenup, goofball.

Clocked up another iteration on the flip-board of life yesterday... 
IÂ’m now the same age as Jimmy Cricket when he first died (Colwyn Bay:
Victoria Pier, June 1974; audience consisted of discombobulated
leftists expecting to see a slide-show on Aneurin Bevan).

How delightful to see the phrase "fuckinÂ’ nail" revived on almost
exactly the second anniversary of its first appearance in these
pages.  We have one-time poster Ellis Bell to thank for that gem, not
Brad the Lad.  Thank the Lord God Our Vengeful Master In Heaven that
*that* sort of jabbing invective doesnÂ’t appear anymore.

There have been mumblings about the Decline Of Belle and Sebastian. 
Is there any greater contrast in nature than that between the intense
pleasure of slinging a handful of fresh TicTacs into oneÂ’s mouth (the
aromatics, the clash of enamel and carnauba wax) and the mundane
experience of grinding the minty bullets into sugary powder shortly
afterwards?  I think not.  If we scale up these little barrels of
fructive goodness to, say, the approximate size and complexity of a
Scottish pop band, we see the gap between Lithe and Frowsy expands
to, ooh, about four years.  YÂ’see, as the Finns once sang (together,
as a nation), ItÂ’s Only Natural.  Just a model of course, and one
lacking a complete dataset (I canÂ’t get cinnamon ones anywhere).

Underdastoored of late, arenÂ’t we?  HeÂ’s busy blogging, apparently. 
As the name suggests, this is an activity precisely between blagging
and logging – containing elements of both (the knavish scheming of
the con-artist, the hardy outdoor endeavour of the lumberjack) while
ultimately resembling neither.  I just hope heÂ’s wrapped up warm.  Or
at least packing some heat. 

Ta-ta,

Mik'.


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From acook at xxx.uk  Tue Aug  8 19:32:35 2000
From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 19:32:35 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Revert to type in times of fear
Message-ID: <39905243.F14FB206@cs.strath.ac.uk>

I shall respond to some points today, since I have nothing better to do
with my time and since my name seems to have been dropped on occasions
over the past week, almost to the point where it is displaying evidence
of minor bruising. I expect no sympathy. It is, after all, only a name.
On to business, firstly Mr Pinefox (one has to ask, does the 'glove'
feel lonely to have been left out? This is probably a rhetorical
question. Probably) who said:

> If only Tim Popkins were here, it might be in order to muster some great 
> jokes along the lines of,
> 
> Just Live Devon
> Stairway To Devon
> Devon In A Wild Flower

Or even, if I were trying to really antagonise the old man, I might
propose 'Near Wild Devon'. Although he might (with any luck) have no
idea what I was talking about and I would be excused a beating. And
having never been to fairest Sidmouth I cannot say that 'wild' could not
be further from the truth. I have absolutely no idea. Enlighten me. When
staring out to sea, what does one see? Africa or South America? 

> I appreciate his solicitude for the 
> treasures of the text; but I think he's mistaken, cos I said:
> 
> >>This list has fair exploded into a forest fire of action in the last week 
> >>or so
> 
> which does not involve any explicit allusion to similitude.

Point well made, and taken in my usual good humour. Obviously I was too
caught up in the blaze to study the text closely enough. Or perhaps I
was just looking for a cheap laugh. It wouldn't be the first time, as
many of you know.

After a brief intermission, he continues:
>  I think 96 had 
> been attending too many shows in Camden and getting amazing vibes about pop 
> about pop. When I say too many shows, I mean the opposite: he'd been, he'd 
> seen - and he'd got the picture. I think - I'd like to think - he's bang on. 
> He bangs on, too, sometimes. Or does he?

Unfortunately no, I did not get the picture. Not on film anyway. But in
my mind the exposure is fresh, and still excites me, in a strange way
which possibly even I don't understand. I could have sworn that guitar
was re-strung...
I particularly like the way Mr Pinefox says 'about pop' twice. The
second time it should be shouted. ABOUT POP! I do bang on. In an
altogether unhealthy way.

On to LunaLilly, who dribbled:
> he looked like SM so much. But I know why in the 
> hell would he be in Omaha. So it wasn't him. But how I wish it was and he 
> would have slid up to my table and said "my I really like your powerpuff girl 
> watch....and you are so lovely ...you would look so good in my car."

Which unfortunately conjured up disturbing images of Stuart M stuffing
Lilly into the boot of his car, laughing all the while at some
half-remembered joke, proffessing to be doing 'God's bidding' as his
church crumbles down around him. But then that's complete nonsense, of
course. Hey, I've just read Stuart's thing about the manpower auction.
Sounds fantastic! What a top bloke. Pity I have no obvious  talents to
offer, and little money with which to bid. Although the money is for
charity, so I may be cajoled. I often am.

Then Ian piped up:
> Someone mentioned breasts, so I thought I'd contribute an Alistair Cook 
> style poem:
> 
> I'm most impressed,
> With your pendulous breasts,
> But may I suggest,
> It's time you got dressed.
> 
> Mmmmm....not bad....

Not bad indeed young sir, it has even inspired me:

I feel such lust
For your sumptuous bust
That your patent disgust
Is simply unjust

I'm not doing drugs
But I've been round at Doug's
And he said that your jugs
Are better than Suggs'

I'd better stop now, or I'll be hit. Actually, I think I've already
passed that point. I will suffer injuries, most probably.

The curiously named 'DelyM2' then asked:
> PS: Is there some kind of rotting tree in Glasgow that is a must see?? 

None that I can think of, although there may well be. There is one in
Greenwich Park, but that's in London, which isn't Glasgow (despite my
attempts to will it otherwise, on certain occassions). No, far more
likely that you are thinking of the famous garotting flea. The garotting
flea killed two people in 1977 by jumping to their neck height and
strangling them with a spider's web. It was never caught by police,
despite the most sophisticated magnifying glasses being used, and it
never struck again after apparently suffering ligament damage when
attempting to kill a Mr Perambulate of Yoker. It was so famous in fact,
that a poem was written at the time by Gordon McQueen, the former
Manchester United and Scotland star. It is entitled simply "The wee flea
they couldnae see".

The garotting flea
Killed almost three
Until the queen's jubilee
Saw it injure it's knee

Poetic, to say the most.

Finally, there was Velocity Girl's rather strange dream. Quite apart
from the fact that anyone who dreams of me should probably visit a
hospital (oh, you have been?), I found it rather amusing, and altogether
charming. Not unlike the woman herself.

And on that note, I shall take my leave for today. The hills look really
good at the moment, what a beautiful night. Goodbye.

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From amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk  Tue Aug  8 20:37:47 2000
From: amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk (amy_jackson0)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 20:37:47 +0100
Subject: Sinister: a dream of a sinisterine....was it you?
Message-ID: <001201c00170$4f410500$66d3b0c2@tinypc>

please help.
this is going to sound strange.
but i had a dream.
about a sinisterine.
called Mark Casarotto (or however you spell your name.)

this is odd, cos i've never even met the guy.  so sorry, i can't help what
my subconcious comes up with in my sleep.

anyway, Mr Mark lived in a big old wooden house, with lots of spiral
staircases and rugs on the floor.  red rugs they were, very fluffy.  anyway,
everyone in the town where we lived was scared of Mr Mark cos he lived in
the big house.  and i was dared by the hard kids to go and knock on his door
and then run away.  so, one night (in my dream) i went to his house and
knocked on the big door.  and he didn't answer.  so i knocked again.  and
then the door opened and i heard music, by some glaswegian band that we all
quite like.  so i went into the hall and started dancing about, singing
along to "le pastie de la posh people", and then Mr Mark was stood at the
top of the stairs laughing at me.  (but he was dancing too)  so i ran away,
and it was really stormy
and "le pastie.." was still being played really loud.  then i woke up.

so mr mark, i'm sorry about all that.  and in my dream you were tall and had
black floppy hair and you wore a black shirt and flares.  just thought you'd
like to know.


exam results will follow soon.....

amy xx

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From koolaidwino at xxx.com  Tue Aug  8 21:47:21 2000
From: koolaidwino at xxx.com (brad !)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 16:47:21 EDT
Subject: Sinister: it was a fine idea at the time
Message-ID: <F193yY0QUUBPcZi71mr00001597@hotmail.com>

hi ho.
i'd like to toss my hat in the proverbial ring of auctioning off one's 
talents for charity.
i will come 'round to anyone's house, uk or us, and give them a right good 
sock in the nose. bidding starts at five bucks american. for slightly more, 
we could engage in some strenuous intercourse. male or female. although, if 
you're male and you decide you would like to rock me from the backside, so 
to speak, you must first supply me with enough liquor to effectively black 
out the memory and/or sensation. and as far as the charity goes...well, i 
won't lie. i'll keep the money and do with it as i see fit. ah hell, i'll 
drop a penny or two in that little thing at burger king with bubbles 
floating up and you gotta make them land on the rotating pedestals. i ain't 
greedy or nothing.

now it's a brilliant mistake.

-brad

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From steven.kado at xxx.ca  Wed Aug  9 01:26:02 2000
From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 20:26:02 -0400
Subject: Sinister: They echo Tolstoy in their assertion that history is "an inexorable march, with persona irrelevant," although their own looming presence threatens to block out the sun
Message-ID: <005b01c00198$ba3b9e60$4102a7d1@yesic.com>

hey you (and you, and you  and you  and you and you etc.)

the universe!

no.


(ha ha ha)*

its warmish and i'm wearing black undies and red socks and wandering about
the house drinking soy milk from the carton.   Maybe i'll wear pants (or
trousers) and go get a roti! R O T I !

so !
stuart murdoch wants to auction off his talents.  perhaps we can get a big
pond of money or agree to collude on the auctioning to make sure that no
list-member drives up the bid prices against another list member.  Then,
once we've secured the 'services' (wink) of every member of the band we can
then make them show us their 'skills' at the same place at the same time and
we can coinicidentally leave several musical instruments around...it may be
the only way of making any b&s concert 'action' happen this year.  for my
talent i will take pictures of gross people holding signs that have the
letters of your name on them, so that if your name is 'phil'  there will be
4 pictures of four different unplesant characters holding signs. this is a
good value for people with very long names.  or i'll find interesting things
in the street and give them to you for a month.

I FOUND PORNOGRAPHY!  a VHS cassette full of it! on the road!  with
scavenging skills like that you know that the neat things i find are worth a
fortune!  the funny thing is that the porno appeared right after i said
'videocassette' in conversation.  and there's this scene where this man in a
ski mask with aviator glasses on wearing crotchless pants (underwear? do i
have this right?) with a big paunch jerks off into the thin end of a pylon.
under the visor that protects the tape i found a fortune cookie fortune that
told me i would get all that i desired through wit and charm, onthe other
side was written 'convicsion'.  weird.

if you fancy pylons i'll make a copy for you.

months earlier i also once found a metal box full of fortune cookies.

so...it seems like the entire UK contingent of the list has had an agressive
attack of the Magnetic Fields.  and that is all well and good, i think
the Mag Fields are great. but from the tone of many of the posts people seem
to _just_ be  discovering the Magnetic Fields and they're doing this by
buying 69 lerv songs....which isn't what you should do!  as good as 69 is,
it is their most thin and underwritten album.  you are all barking up the
wrong tree or l'arbre incorrect (if you're that way inclined)...go buy get
lost and then once you're completely unable to live without stephin merritt
in yr life you can go get the massive albatros album and gothic archies
records and future bible heroes (new ep out!) and such.

ok?


also,
last night i went over to a friend's house and rented loneliness of a long
distance runner.  which was tremendous!  are all tony richardson's films
that good? i'd rent more.  the way that long unsupervised running scene
binds the entire flash-back together is incredible...and sometimes that guy
looks just like mark e smith.  sometimes.... not always...

the other thing is that this friend has 7 other housemates (its a large
house) and one of them is a big metal head.  i'm not talking about metallica
or slipknot or any of that lame shit but stuff like dillinger escape plan
and such...he's really really hardcore.  and that's great, because other
than being the last martha and the muffins fan in the world and quoting
nation of ulysses in all of my posts i also really really really love napalm
death. so we get along great.  so mr. metal head comes downstairs and asks
what movie we're watching and then he tells me that iron maiden have a song
by that name too.

so at last! the link between maiden and b&s has been established!  now the
truth is revealed.  this is leading me to an entire re-evaluation of b&s's
oevre in terms of the connection to terrible 80's mainstream metal, maybe
now family tree will make some sense, just maybe.  maybe next time they do a
live show (in maybe 5 years) they can get bruce dickenson to do the monica
queen parts in llpj.  that'd be pretty um, great.  yes.



bye

s t e v en

*a clever joke.

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From carle at xxx.com  Wed Aug  9 05:09:18 2000
From: carle at xxx.com (carle groome)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 00:09:18 -0400
Subject: Sinister: sheep in bowlie clothing and the best of both worlds
Message-ID: <3990D964.5AAA3FE9@rcn.com>

dear sister-nines,

i know how often our blighty bretheren (and sisteren--not "cistern"
which could be misinterpreted as either a "well" or, at a far remove,
"reservior") have talked about chance sightings of stray badges and
outer-underwear to make contact with others of our ilk (hmmm, not
exactly happy with "ilk", but we'll let it go this time) but in nyc, at
least for those of us beyond the precincts of major universities (i.e.:
nyu, columbia, sarah lawrence, etc.) it isn't too common.
so imagine my surprise at finding myself staring at the fabled "study at
stowe" in faded cerulean blue! i was meeting my gay pal sam to go off to
a birthday party on the hudson that a sculptor friend of his was
throwing (BTB, smashing picture postcard sunset, that) for herself. and
it seems the bright lass in the b&s tee was staying at my his apartment
while he was out of town (on a recommedation from his niece at yale,
where both fems attended). my first reaction was, of course, "are you
sinister?" and, of course, she wondered what the deuce i was talking
about. after my explanation, hers was that she'd "borrowed" it from her
suitemate (interesting about that word; homophonically, the same as
"sweetmate," implying something altogether different in relationships)
and was hoping she'd never remember to ask for it back. however, as we
were late for the river and the gal was already wheeling her mountain
bike towards the door and so there's little else to say about her
tastes. nice shirt though.
lesson? beware of sheep (aka: the "eli" or "yalie" is nicknamed after
their school song "we're poor little lambs who have lost our
way"--honest! i'm not making this up!) in bowlie clothing!

yes. well, stretching points is much more fun than sticking on them.

part two.
in re: the above confusion of there/here. noting a thread on the
strangeness of the isles speech and the richness of the slang therein,
it should be mentioned that there's no reason why we should pretend
towards, nay!--or even champion, exclusiveness in our word choice.
winston churchill said it best: "america and england are one people
separated by a common language." over here, we've been absorbing your
lingo since shakespeare, with a healthy dose of dickens and by the time
of "the british invasion" of the '60s, we were more than ready to take
on more. and perhaps that's why even abba had to sing in anglomerican
(or "midlantic" if you prefer... first heard that one in "absolute
beginners." was that just concocted for the film or is it real?) in
order to make it huge.
fact is, the world of pop is ours specifically from that consequence.
try as they might, no other country can really make anything that
resonates with the immediacy to affect teens, toffs, toughs, 'tweeners
and turf-surfers en masse. it is the bastard child of a thousand fathers
that takes a little from french, german, spanish, italian,
scandanavian--whatever comes along. 
several years back, i was doing a review of the love box set (no, not
house of love--the west coast psychedelic era band fronted by arthur
lee) and it occured to me how incredibly varied this material was. and
then i thought about the context that it came out of: top 40 AM radio.
that was the time you could have the rolling stones "satisfaction" and
the kinks "lola" on the same list as frank sinatra, peggy lee, "the man
of la mancha" broadway cast album, dave brubeck's "take five" jazz,
wilson pickett, novelty hits like a jugband number called "the eggplant
that ate chicago" or "winchester cathedral" as it harked back to rudy
vallee... i mean, a complete hodgepodge, true, but one that could never
be called dull, or offer sameness in the manner of today's programmed
MOR. so old arthur lee could have honky tonk next to a movie soundtrack
cover next to big swing next to interpersonal ballads next to all-out
freak-outs, and THAT would be consistency, not conformity.
that's why b&s can stand alongside giants like brian wilson as he
exchanges bows with the beatles and burt bacharach can join with elvis
costello and all can look back to where tin pan alley, folk city and the
brill building shared space with the venerable music hall and street
buskers. therefore, if we pepper our palates with "suss" (re: Who) or
"fag" (countless cigarette refs in movies) or "loo" (cf. previous) there
should be no need for any sanction. (actually recall a book called "the
loo sanction"...nevermind)
so, the best of both worlds.

and best to all concerned
carle
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From mikelsen at xxx.nz  Wed Aug  9 04:51:51 2000
From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:51:51 +1200
Subject: Sinister: avert your eyes children, he may take on other forms
Message-ID: <004a01c001b5$41a4c680$a66137d2@computer>

**LUNATIC DRIVERS**
I hate people that drive big 4WD land rovers around the suburbs. I know in
America they're pretty common, so I don't want to offend any truck-driving
American listees with the following rant. It's just that in New Zealand, the
sort of people who drive these menaces are almost invariably middled aged,
wealthy suburban housewives who drive like lunatics and think they own the
whole bloody road. I pulled out of my driveway this afternoon and saw one up
the road, a few hundred metres away. Anyway, this psycho sppeds up, starts
flashing her lights and attempts to overtake me on the very narrow road we
live on, just because I was driving AT the speed limit, rather than 30 km/h
over it. Anyway, me being the contary bastard that I am, speed up, swerved
into the middle of the road so that she wouldn't be able to overtake me,
started honking my horn and giving her "the fingers" with great ghusto. She
overtook me anywaym at about 100 km/h, on the wrong side of the road.

Great start to the day.

**MR STEVEN WELLS**
Read his review for "Little Kix", the new Mansun album today. I'm probably
alone on this list for liking Mansun, but I think they are a brilliantly
inventive band. Anyway, his review was rather scathing, and much like his
"interview" with Struan, seemed to entirely miss the point. And again I say,
this man has, in the past, defended The Bluetones. Not that I have anything
agaist The Bluetones. But Swells was saying that Mansun weren't doing
anything new. And I don't recall The Bluetones ever really going out on an
avant garde limb.

**SHOCK/HORROR**
The new B&S album has been released locally here, and is apparently selling
quite well, mostly to men in their late 30s, apparently. And in most places
you get the single of "Legal Man" free with the album. Boy ... sure makes me
feel like a tool for mistakenly buying it twice, once for $20.00 and once
for $29.00. (sigh) Oh well ... I'm still convinced I was the first person in
New Zealand to hear the album. That must count for something, right?

I ate six crumpets for lunch today. I'm home sick with a migrane. Eating
crumpets is just expected of you, when you're sick.

**B&S DREAMS**
Haven't had one in ages. I dreamt last night, however, that some guy
invented a time machine just so he could go back to the early 80s, buy up
heaps of mint-in-box Star Wars action figures and then make gigantic amounts
of money. The dream then degenerated into me battling Darth Vader in a
toyshop somewhere. It was prety intense. But not as intense the night before
when I dreamt about this snake wrapping tiself around my leg and not letting
go. I'm sure Doctor Freud would have something to say about that one.

Avert your eyes children ... I am about tu supplicate myself .....

**RADIO SESSIONS**
My plea last week for the Radio 1 Evening Session in exchange for the two
Radcliffe Sessions heralded only one reply. (Cheers Jessica! - your tape's
in the mail) Anyway, I am STILL desperate for those sessions in either
super-crisp FM stereo or on a CD of some kind. (Along with the "bus session"
of 'The Wrong Girl' it at all possible.) Someone MUST have them, surely?
Anyway, maybe my offer wasn't that appealing, so just let me say I have more
Go-Betweens rarities than you can shake a (very big) stick at, as well as
the Nick Drake "Tamworth in Arden" bootleg, should anyone anything like that
burned onto a CD-R as a trade. C'mon kids ... how about it. I'm down on my
knees here. Similarly, if anyone has the "complete" Black Sessions (mine is
on a tape, and is missing "Paper Boat", I'd love to get a CD vrsion of that
too.

Pleading over.

**ANNOYING PERSONAL BIT**
Chris McQuain, you're going to have to send me your address in order for me
to send that Auteurs tape.

Well, take care kids ...

Lawrence Mikkelsen
http://www.akn.quik.co.nz/mikelsen/aboutme

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From tew at xxx.net  Wed Aug  9 06:41:28 2000
From: tew at xxx.net (Ted Whalen)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 00:41:28 -0500
Subject: Sinister: gulls, smelts, and their ilk
Message-ID: <20000809004128.A12770@troy.psych.nwu.edu>

This is the

SECOND EVER POST BY ME

The post /after/ the "Hi, I'm a mopey boy with touseled hair who
rides public transportation." post.  This is the one where I have

ON TOPIC INFORMATION

A new, insightful album review of the much-beloved/much-maligned
FISHYCLAP is at <http://www.furia.com/twas/0288.html>.  This useful (to
someone, I imagine) tibit is followed by the

SHAMELESS MENTION OF LISTCRUSH

You should all be voting (not necessarily for me) and not sitting on
your hands.  Only 4 votes this month (and none of them for me) is sad. 
Really.  <http://www.missprint.org/sinister/crush.html> Not that I'm
mentioning this to get your vote.  Really.  It is summer, and in my
hemisphere, it is hot.  Everyone should have a crush for the summer. 
That is how it works.  Those of you on the bottom of the globe, you
have an excuse.  Remember, you don't have to vote for me, you can vote
for

OTHER PEOPLE

Including those on this list who I have met and for whose
crushworthy-ness I can vouch. I will now shout out to them in
alphabetical order. allie! brandt! ted!

Thank you for your attention.

tew
-- 
             'Trains leave at minutes shown past each hour'
                    Ted Whalen - tew at introvert.net
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From tew at xxx.net  Wed Aug  9 06:52:58 2000
From: tew at xxx.net (Ted Whalen)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 00:52:58 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Re: gulls, smelts, and their ilk
In-Reply-To: <20000809004128.A12770@troy.psych.nwu.edu>; from tew@introvert.net on Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 12:41:28AM -0500
References: <20000809004128.A12770@troy.psych.nwu.edu>
Message-ID: <20000809005258.A12940@troy.psych.nwu.edu>

Dearest Friends,

In the SECOND EVER POST BY ME, I gave out the wrong URL and now I must
correct it.  The ON TOPIC INFORMATION is /actually/ located at
<http://www.furia.com/twas/twas0288.html>.  I purposefully made this
mistake so I could make this, the THIRD EVER POST BY ME.

I could follow-up and make the FOURTH EVER POST BY ME to apologize for
cluttering your email, but I will save that post for either the HEATED
LIST ARGUMENT or WHERE IS GEORGE DICKIE?

tew

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From Bipedalboy at xxx.com  Wed Aug  9 07:31:07 2000
From: Bipedalboy at xxx.com (Bipedalboy at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 02:31:07 EDT
Subject: Sinister: the stars are beautiful because of a flower that cannot be seen
Message-ID: <4e.97913fc.26c254ab@aol.com>

this is my first post :)
there shall be more to come....
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From DelyM2 at xxx.com  Wed Aug  9 09:12:26 2000
From: DelyM2 at xxx.com (DelyM2 at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 04:12:26 EDT
Subject: Sinister: You Spin Me Right Round 
Message-ID: <df.846dec4.26c26c6a@aol.com>

Lately I've been splurging a bit too much with my money.  For instance , 
today I bought Fold YOur hands ,  on vinyl.  and i already have the CD.    
god. what on earth was i thinking.   i dont even own a record player.     i 
must be turning into a nerd or something.      

sorry. 
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From Joe.Ballard at xxx.uk  Wed Aug  9 11:48:32 2000
From: Joe.Ballard at xxx.uk (Joe.Ballard at xxx.uk)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 11:48:32 +0100
Subject: Sinister: The virgin Joseph
Message-ID: <OF8D29433E.56635648-ON80256935.004F6BA3@ARCADIAGROUP.CO.UK>


Hello fellow belle-ends!  Don't look now, but I'm NEW and I'm NAKED.......
I don't know quite how I got here but I like it and I really don't want to
go home just yet.

Here is my story

I fell in love two months ago.  It was on a bus and it was with B&S.  And
it was my pal Lorraine wot dunnit.

Me and Lorraine used to sit together at work and tug each other's hair,
laugh at each other's trousers and pull rude stunts with sausage sarnies
from the staff caff.  Crazy days.  I thought she looked like Jarvis Cocker
with breasts and I wasn't afraid to tell her so.  She smirked and said I
looked like Morrissey with a mysterious wasting disease.  I said "fine" ...

The days passed in a slow blur.  The hours came and went every sixty
minutes.  The public transport system sent us round and round in circles.
Then one sticky Tuesday afternoon in Joon Lorraine threw a tape at me.
"Prick up your ears boy.  It's about time YOU got with the NOW" she
declared before skipping off to do some more photocopying.  The tape in
question (IYFS and TBWTAS) fell into the bottom of my knapsack and set
about collecting grains of tobacco and broken biscuits.  Not a spool moved
until the following Saturday...

Friday night fizzed and bubbled and eventually went flat and tasteless,
just like the premium lager I was drinking in foolish amounts.  My brain
took a right old pounding.  Victoria Coach Station early the next morning
was like a wet Wednesday in hell with early closing and dogshit on the
pavements and everything.  Crawling like a broken stick insect onto a
dismal National Express coach I felt horribly feeble, nay WOEful,  and was
barely able to untangle my walkman, insert the cassette and press play
before folding myself into a sickening contortionist slumber.  But
byJimminy was it worth the effort...

                          ***THE HAPPY ENDING***

... I awoke near Beaconsfield with a start, and found myself in the middle
of a pop-up revelation (you know the sort of thing: I was dreaming, I was
sleeping, I was stuck to my seat).  "GET ME AWAY FROM HERE I'M DYING" sang
my headphones and I couldn't have agreed more even if I tried.  Except I
could, cos I was no longer dying, I was... well ... alive!!!!  Hello trees,
hello sky, hello clouds.  Hello B&S.  In the ensuing minutes I tangled with
the Major, ran myself ragged in terry-towel underwear, mused on my top ten
wanks, shed tears of delight at the woo-woo noises on sleep the clock
around and generally did my nut over the belle and the boy sebastian.  And
then did it again.  And again.  And again.  You could have seen my grin
from Mars...

And the rest is double history followed by CDT.

All I can say is thank you forever Lorraine -  I didn't mean it about
Jarvis.  And hello belle fiends.  Can I stay?

luv Joe

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From rclander at xxx.net  Wed Aug  9 12:25:39 2000
From: rclander at xxx.net (Richard Lander)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 19:25:39 +0800
Subject: Sinister: Ex-B&S News
Message-ID: <002701c001f4$8d22f3e0$77f951ca@richardl>

Evenin' All

Following on from Lawrence about the NME there is this news item about
Looper leaving Jeepster.

------------------------------

STUART DAVID of GLASGOW lo-fi funksters LOOPER has revealed to nme.com that
the band is quitting JEEPSTER, the current home of his former band BELLE AND
SEBASTIAN, for their next record, and moving to MUTE.

"I think we're gonna move to Mute for the next album. I think they have a
pretty good understanding of what we want to do", said David, adding, that
Mute would most likely release their next album in the US, as opposed to
their previous label, Sub Pop. "I think Mute's gonna do it for the whole
world. It's quite complicated being on two different record labels."

Speaking about the group's next record, the follow-up to this year's 'The
Geometrid', David added: "Probably, where that one ('The Geometrid') is more
dance and electronic influenced, the next one will be a bit more hip-hop
influenced. The more avant-garde end of hip-hop like Timbaland and Missy
Elliot, those kind of beats."

He did stress, however, that they weren't planning on doing a lot of
rapping. He added, "Probably not, no, that's the thing I get tired of in
hip-hop after a while. I like it to an extent, but a lot of the time I just
wanna listen to the loops properly."

-----------------------------

Richard Lander
Lamma Island, Hong Kong

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From drug_dru at xxx.com  Wed Aug  9 12:28:57 2000
From: drug_dru at xxx.com (Linus with the arab strap)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 11:28:57 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Is it just me ?
Message-ID: <F146rKVUDhCiBdk4RA500000f6f@hotmail.com>

Hullo all, is it just me or does Staurt David dislike Belle and Sebastian ? 
I heard remours that he wasn't really happy with the band members or the 
music or whatever ... I'm not sure... It also seems that his band - Looper 
is doing music that is too much different from B+S ... Just tell me whatever 
in yer head and what u have heard pls.

Linus Of Orange
Based in Hong Kong .
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From cbrown2 at xxx.com  Wed Aug  9 12:51:01 2000
From: cbrown2 at xxx.com (cbrown2 at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:51:01 +0100
Subject: Sinister: doing the dirty boogie
Message-ID: <86256936.0041685E.00@em-stpmta-01.mmm.com>



hello all, hope you're all fine and lovely

I'm surprised that no-one's mentioned Stevies little excursion into the sandpit
yet, seeing as they haven't I thought that I'd tell you all about it.  I got a
compilation cd on Monday called Caroline now! which has got loads of people
covering rare(ish) Brian Wilson and Beach boys songs.  Featured on there is one
MR S. Jackson sometimes of this parish, he does a song called Good time (I'm
sure there are Beach boys fanatics around here who will be able to tell who
wrote it and which album it's from but I can't remember) and it's gorgeous.  A
lovely slowish song all about a girl called Penny who's good at cooking and
doing the dirty boogie (now that's a good name for a dance, unless of course
he's talking about something else which I've forgotten about it's been that long
boo hoo), I'm listening to it now and it really is fantastic, just Stevie and an
acoustic guitar with a little bit of organ in the background ahhhhhhhh

There's plenty of other good songs on there too by such ace people as Norman
Blake, Alex Chilton, Kim Fowley and the secret Goldfish (I really like their
song, does anyone know anything about them as I got a couple of other songs of
theirs on a compilation the other day including a cover of the shop assistant's
"somewhere in China" so ... info please)


Hmmm, my mind's just gone blank, which is a shame as I'm sure I had other things
to tell, ah well never mind, that'll all have to wait for another time.

Ta ta for now all you lovely people

Chris

PS Mr C, what, still no Tigermilking?

PPS put all your money on my beloved Spireites (that's Chesterfield FC for the
uninformed) to win the 3rd division this season, ahh pre-season optimism, you
can't beat it


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From hewits at xxx.uk  Wed Aug  9 13:39:44 2000
From: hewits at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:39:44 +0100 
Subject: Sinister: belle and sebby on the telly last nite
Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69015A13B0@park_ex>

aaah, you're thinking, aaah, of course they were on telly last nite, the
acid house was on innit.  And I shall say, aaaaaaaaaaaaah, but that's where
you're wrong cos i'm much more hardcore/sad anorak/trainspotter than that.

Yes, the thinking man's big brother "Bare Necessities" (Tuesdays BBC2
8.30pm), where groups of publicans and social workers are sent into the
wilds of canada to survive on a diet of beaver*, featured *at least* ten
seconds of the instrumental break in the middle of Seymour Stein, and i
thought you'd like to know this :)  Made my night anyway.

*OK, so these guys are given a large, toothy, dam-building rodent to eat,
and NOT ONE OF THEM sniggered, chuckled or made a single "i'm eating
beaver", look at the size of that beaver", "what a hairy beaver" type
joke...what is the world coming to

So, looper are leaving jeepster, hmmm, who wants to start a book on how long
til everyone else jumps ship, maybe seymour will be back over soon, he might
even get to see dundee this time.

xoxo
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From vibrosheep at xxx.net  Wed Aug  9 14:00:00 2000
From: vibrosheep at xxx.net (vibrosheep at xxx.net)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 14:00:00 +0100
Subject: Sinister: TOAST - As far as the eye can see.
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Alisdair, bless his northern, regularly darned, never been outside the big city, cotton socks enquired :

>Or even, if I were trying to really antagonise the old man, I might 
>propose 'Near Wild Devon'. Although he might (with any luck) have no 
>idea what I was talking about and I would be excused a beating. And 
>having never been to fairest Sidmouth I cannot say that 'wild' could >not be further from the truth. I have absolutely no idea. Enlighten >me. When staring out to sea, what does one see? Africa or South >America? 

Sidmouth is, we don't like to admit it, but is part of the wild-wild-west.  If you love women who don't shave their legs, preferrably in their mid-nineties, with cream-tea moustaches and, much to the delight of young Sarah the Red, smell of wee - then Sidmouth is your destination.

When on Sidmouth sea-front you will see much the same as if you were living in more civilised areas of the South as Bognor - ROCKS.  Loads and loads of the fuckers.

When you actually climb over the rocks, much to everyones suprise, there is no sea.  It's all a myth to get tourists there.  There's actually a 3/4 completed motorway with a little chef - not the restaraunt, a little bloke in a white hat playing marbles with land adjusted dolphins.

Glad to have been of help.

Too much punctuation.

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From igh1 at xxx.uk  Wed Aug  9 14:56:38 2000
From: igh1 at xxx.uk (Ian Hatcher)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:56:38 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: Trembling Blue Fairy Wings
Message-ID: <SIMEON.10008091438.A@PCL3P063.ukc.ac.uk>

Helloooo,

Welcome to one of my infrequent posts (fear not, for I 
shall soon be returning to the shadows of lurkerdom).

How good are the Go Betweens?  Of course, this is a 
rhetorical question, since all and sundry know that the Go 
Betweens are, in fact, awesome.  I can't believe some 
people say the 80s were poo, when you had the Go Betweens, 
Felt, the Smiths, the Roses (admittedly right at the end 
but it helps me win these 'the 80s weren't poo they were 
lovely' arguments that I sometimes have with myself) and 
even better, Dogtanion and the Three Muskahounds.  Ooh, and 
the A-Team.

Another thing (before I forget), did anyone happen to be at 
the Tompaulin/Trembling Blue Stars Borderline gig the other 
night??  They were both fantastic (just to rub salt into 
the wounds of those unlucky enough not to go - ha!!), and 
if the artist formerly known as Erica is reading this (or 
indeed is still on the list), please can you get in touch 
with me.  Well, you don't have to, cos if you got my last 
e-mail then I'll just be repeating myself, but in case you 
didn't then I owe you for introducing me to the Field Mice 
and the Blue Stars and want to repay my debt of gratitude*

I *promise* there'll be B&S content in a minute, honest 
Honey.

Fairy wings are good aren't they?  I think everyone should 
be forced to wear fairy wings by law (well, all girls, but 
I s'pose boys could as well if they wanted).  But then 
maybe it wouldn't be quite as good . . . hmmmm.  Nevermind.

My B&S type point is this: who's the best character in 
Winnie the Pooh?  Ha ha, I fooled you all.  And the answer, 
of course, is Eeyore, that King of Sarcasm.  Oh, great 
King, how I bow down to your might.

The real point I was going to make about B&S was actually 
quite good, but I've forgotten it now (too busy thinking 
about the Tigger Movie) so I'll retreat hastily back into 
the shadows before our beloved List Mummy takes away my 
sweets (well, shouts at me anyway.  I'm sure Honey wouldn't 
still candy from anyone, maybe not even babies).

Byeeeee,
Ian.

*Look how much of a dodgy perv I manage to sound without 
actually meaning it.



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From cbrown2 at xxx.com  Wed Aug  9 16:42:11 2000
From: cbrown2 at xxx.com (cbrown2 at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:42:11 +0100
Subject: Sinister: ooh a second post
Message-ID: <86256936.00564C6E.00@em-stpmta-01.mmm.com>



Hello again everyone, I've remembered what I wanted to ask before, this is
mainly for London peeps too so most of you may as well press delete now.  I want
to go to a decent pub with good music in London tomorrow night, and I've run out
of inspiration, unfortunately Cafe Kick is out of bounds as one of our friends
is entertaining a young lady there and wants no "interference"

Anyone got any ideas??  Sorry for the blatant abuse

Chris

PS thanks to everyone who helped out with the secret goldfish, it's much
appreciated


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From pinefox at xxx.com  Wed Aug  9 17:09:53 2000
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 16:09:53 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Canada Wouters
Message-ID: <LAW-F158hODt9Cz93Mg00003938@hotmail.com>



Police sirens flash by somewhere. We seem to be in for a bit of a spell, as 
they used to say in 'Porridge'.


Steady Mik' swallowed (properly):

>>There have been mumblings about the Decline Of Belle and Sebastian.
[...]
>>If we scale up these little barrels of
fructive goodness to, say, the approximate size and complexity of a
Scottish pop band, we see the gap between Lithe and Frowsy expands
to, ooh, about four years.


I don't think that he was saying that Bananas & Sebastopol (Road) had 
declined. I *think* he was saying, in a clever and witty way (which I've 
just deleted from this account), that people's perceptions inevitably change 
and weary, in an unfortunate fashion that can't be helped. But you know, now 
I'm not so sure. Maybe he really *was* jumping on the rag-and-bone wagon of 
'decline'. His 'model' (incomplete) seems to imply a change in the object 
itself rather than just in some external perception of it. You see, you 
start trying to reply to one of these things and, after 20 seconds, you're 
no longer sure what it was actually saying in the first place. It's like 
taking a bounce on the iterated flip-board of uncertainty.

Under seashell clouds and gilded sun I went to a quiz yesterday, in Quebec, 
SE London. The Belmondoes fought the Sebergs to a tie-break with serves, 
volleys, headers, backhands, bungs, lobs, blobs, aces, jacks, straws, 
tic-tac toe, tic-tacs, iron maces, mace, Macy's, JC Penney, Woolworth, 
Woolco, Wilco (hence 'Dreddie'), banana kicks, avocado shakes, strawberry 
switchblades, orange crushes, pear shapes, partridge families, five gold 
rings, girls from Ipanema, Girl Talk, cherry bombs, sherbert dips, EMF 
records, Sandrine stones, UK CDs, Brazilian mistakes, aisler diagrams, Venn 
setts, badgers' houses, necking swallows, Santangelis faults, seconds 
alight, the sweetest punches, left hooks, right cheeks, middle distances, 
long shots, short order cooks, 96 tears, ring roads, black orchids, Flakey 
almond slices, the bride's trousseau, fifer's lanes, les bouts de souffle, 
paris kisses, glasgow smiles, london eyes and ears of (sweet)corn, with 
tuna. Cuba and Argentina were involved. It was high noon in Iceland. As the 
two teams staggered to their feet one last time, DJ Michael Wood of the LRB 
played 'Paradise City', and the tie-break question was announced: which is 
the best Belle and Sebastian ep?

Stevie T saw his chance and took it. 'This Is Just A Modern Rock Song', he 
yelled, as Popkins leapt across the table in slow locomotion to try to stop 
the catastrophe. It was too late. Les belles Sebergs correctly announced the 
winner as '3...6...9', and the grand prix was theirs. We had to be content 
with 'Bandwagonesque'.


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From imn_uk at xxx.uk  Wed Aug  9 21:30:53 2000
From: imn_uk at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?ian=20nicolson?=)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 21:30:53 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: As clean as a packet of chocolate treats
Message-ID: <20000809203053.8306.qmail@web4304.mail.yahoo.com>

Steven Kado stammerred>
> the other thing is that this friend has 7 other  >
housemates (its a large house) and one of them is a >
big metal head.

which I found incredibly intriguing until I realised
he meant that he liked big loud music. I mean, what
could a huge head made of metal do to pay the rent? 
maybe pose in a museum, I guess, but there can't be
too many job opportunities these days.  Not since
Moses banned false gods n'all that. 

I stayed up to watch 'The Acid House' last night,
cause Sinister told me (I always do what I'm told)
which, despite coming from Edinburgh, I'd never seen
before.  I've never seen 'Trainspotting' all the way
through either - I guess the Chemical Generation kinda
passed me by.  But we're all like that up here, you
know.  There's nothing I like better at the weekends
to go down the pub for a 'swally' then maybe a shot on
the 'puggie' and, if everything goes well, round off
the evening with a jolly good 'swedge'.  ye cannae
beat it.  likesay.  ken.  ya radge.

So, yeh, despite the biggest arts festival in the
whole wide world (is this actually true?  or is it
just something that Edinburgh people like to believe?)
taking place on my doorstep (literally - there was a
troop of Albanian midget ballet dancers doing 'Swan
Lake' out there this morning) I'm sitting in watching
films on TV of an evening.  But I'm just too lazy to
file through the hundreds of programmes, leaflets,
supplements, etc to see if there's anything worth
going to.  So has anyone seen anything good? Or,
indeed, going to see anything which might be good? Let
me know.

Actually, I did go to see the wonderful Neil Ashford
at the Tron last week as part of the Acoustic
Underground thing.  I believe he's playing there again
on the 24th, so if you're in Edinburgh for the
festival, or indeed if you're an Edinburgh denizen
yourself, you really could do a lot worse than to pop
along.  Some local hack (can't remember who...)
compared him to Stuart Murdoch and Thom Yorke.  And to
a cup of coffee, for that matter.   He's a bit
Sodastream-y or even Nick Drake-y, I think.  Which is
good.

They tell me the Queen Mother had a birthday last
week.  Can't believe I missed it (irony), but I found
out today that a celebration CD had been released. 
Why have no reviews been posted to the list yet?  I
can only imagine that there'd be a fair number of you
queing up overnight for that one.  I wonder if she
sings on it...

luv etc.
ian n


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From rfadden at xxx.com  Wed Aug  9 23:39:40 2000
From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:39:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: you dug the roadside blur
Message-ID: <20000809223940.21026.qmail@web124.yahoomail.com>

mmermmeraherahmeryar,
so sinister... *so*...
you know when your life revolves around a theme? like say
rollerderby or shoe shopping or ilk. it may be brief, but
it's kind of centring. and then you go for long periods,
perhaps years/half-decades, of themelessness. lack of ness.
or a chaotic ness of themes that won't stick. mm, well,
yes. can't quite seem to shake the want for theme.
sometimes tone just doesn't quite cut it. and tone tends to
wander. which screws up theme, of course... abstractions,
agh and sorry, but the only concrete thing i can give is
the intersection of main and hastings at dusk on a monday
night where wandering junkies sort of group and ungroup
like kaleidescope rocks, which assumes something bigger
moves them, such as need or theme, towards a $200-a-day
habit, something quite easy to understand really if given
the chance. 

<shakes head etch-a-sketch style> ...

i've moved to a new neighbourhood. i like it. but the
transition from west-side lawns and well-bred dogs,
SUV4WD-and-assorted-merchandise splendor to east-side,
well, melange remains jarring. what a few blocks and a new
bus route can do... and living alone, oh yes. 

so this and now having nick drake and 69 love songs (a
theme? more than! it seems on this list lately) and seeing
too much cable tv on the weekend have caused something in
me. ech, causing (i joke.) (what? the universe! i...) is
there a cure for being overwhelmed? essential oils? yoga? a
massive russian novel? subprotomicrobial shock therapy?
hmm? 

i saw a film called "Judy Berlin" last night. it is a very
good and sincere and non-sarcastic story about the suburbs.
well, more than the suburbs, but that is where it is set
(new york city suburbs that is. different from california
suburbs or toronto suburbs or london suburbs, but
regardless, still "outside 'action central'") it's a
wonderful film with beautiful cinematography (and in black
and white even, so it feels simultaneously twilight
zone/hitchcock/cary grant comedy/citizen kane/hal hartley
even...) and some damn good writing and acting. 

canada: now has its own version of "who wants to be a
millionaire". it's all over the news. it's crazy. it's
bound to surpass anne of green gables and degrassi in
national popularity... i feel so on edge.

i do.

i know nothing of this whole eating beaver business (and
what jokes?). i believe it is illegal. get cher brit-ish
tea-swillin' colonizin' a'r'ses offa my prop-erty! (watch
out, they'll be feasting on eagle soon...)   oh my.

i really do think it's possible to understand completely
and not understand at all at the same time. i do. for a lot
of things. (one currently being the 'big brother'-type
show. i... i just.)

more stability in tone next time,
r y
o n
b .

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~~~
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From amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk  Thu Aug 10 13:03:21 2000
From: amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk (amy_jackson0)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 13:03:21 +0100
Subject: Sinister: exam results
Message-ID: <000f01c002c3$26034280$28d7b0c2@tinypc>

eh oh popkids

well, i got them.
i got an A for Modern Studies and B's for Art, English and French!!!!

I'M OFF TO UNI!!!!!!!!!!

yay!!

glasgow here i come, woo hoo!

hope everyone else who got results is happy,
luv and lollipops,
amy xxx
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From david at xxx.uk  Thu Aug 10 18:00:02 2000
From: david at xxx.uk (David White)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:00:02 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Gonnae No Dae That...
Message-ID: <LNBBIEGADDEMDLPIAGBKMEBLCCAA.david@djwhite47.freeserve.co.uk>

Greetings Sinister,

THE ACID HOUSE
Watched this the other night, mainly to hear the B&S song in it, although
it's a bit daft watching a film to hear a song I've already got, but
nonetheless I watched it anyway. It's a bit fecking wierd though. I liked
the first two parts but the third part with him out of Trainspotting as the
baby was total shite. I thought Slow Grafitti was the perfect song for the
part of the film it was in though, I'd never really appreciated the lyrics
before but it was like they had been written with that scene in mind. Was
the song written for the film? If not, then Stuart Murdoch must have read
the book...

EDINBURGH
Somebody on the list was talking about the Edinburgh Festival recently.
There's something I've never liked about Edinburgh and the Festival seems to
sum it up. There's this whole image that its the cultural centre of the
world, look at their Hogmanay thing for example, but whenever I've been
there aside from the tourist bits it's been a total dump. The festival in
particular really pisses me off. For three weeks or whatever every night we
(in Scotland at least) get the likes of Muriel Gray presenting shite called
Edinburgh Nights or something equally inappropriate on the telly every
night. Shouldn't a programme about Edinburgh be more like Trainspotting or
The Acid House and less like Notting Hill or 4 Weddings and a Funeral? I
wouldn't object to the whole festival thing if it was related in the
slightest to Edinburgh or even Scotland but its not, it's full of luvvies
from London or jugglers and midget street performers. And as for that
Scottish Parliament, don't get me started....

EXAMS
I always have to laugh at news coverage of exam results being released.
Wouldn't it be nice if just for once they took their cameras to some
no-hopers house to watch them open the envelope.
Reporter: "So Bob, how did you get on in your exams?"
Bob: "Failed the lot"
Reporter: "Aren't you gutted that you won't have the chance to go to
University then?"
Bob: "No couldn't care less."
Instead every year we have to watch smug bastards opening their envelopes
looking so surprised when they pass all their exams with flying colours
knowing full well that there wasn't a snowballs chance in hell that they
would have failed. Grrr....

LONELINESS OF A MIDDLE DISTANCE RUNNER
Thanks to all those who sent me feedback about the MP3. If anybody missed
it, I've put an MP3 of this song as performed live on the Apocolypse Tube
show on my site. If you haven't already you can download it now from
www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk

BIG BROTHER
Whoever asked, yes it is the most infuriatingly addictive television show
ever. I don't know why, it's not that exciting, it's just one of those shows
that once you start you can't stop watching.

That's all for now

Dave
david at belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk

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From COURTOLY at xxx.com  Thu Aug 10 22:17:17 2000
From: COURTOLY at xxx.com (COURTOLY at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:17:17 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Greek love summer pop festivals
Message-ID: <200008102115.WAA14529@missprint.org>

Hello Sin,
I survived Ladyfest in Olympia Washington and met a listee who was smart enough to have is badge on the right wrong way. Dear Kevin boy, if you read this, I hope you had fun in Oly...you always seemed to be with friends
Now I'm in Athens GA for the Kindercore expo and I see at least six kids a day with b&s shirts. Are any of you reading this? It is so hot here in the South, and my friends are all at work during the day. I've also realized I have certainly crossed the point where smoking funny cigarettes is preferable to drinking when I want to feel social and fun and healthy the next day.
And part of me just wants to get back home to hang out with the sweet boy I've been daydreaming about. I was listening to his radio show a few weeks ago and he deticated a B&S song to me and then accidentally played C Average (a 2 piece metal outfit from Oly who got a footnote in n'tl music press when Eddie Vedder got them a spot opening for the Who last year...very not pop cept for recording at Yoyo Studios where B&S have expressed some interest in making melodies when they come to the West Coast)...he did get back to Winter Wooksie in a minute though. 
So is anyone in Athens? Can you spot the hussy with the zebra purse and white sunglasses? Say hi.

Love 
Courtney
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From Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com  Thu Aug 10 22:21:18 2000
From: Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com (Paul Rudolph)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:21:18 -0400
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From showmemagic at xxx.com  Thu Aug 10 22:37:26 2000
From: showmemagic at xxx.com (Joey .)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 21:37:26 GMT
Subject: Sinister: A very worrying discovery...
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Hello everyone. :)

How are you all? Well I hope. Extra big wave to the "kids table baxendale 
gang" if they are watching. :)

I just discovered something slightly disturbing. I was casually glancing 
through my dad's compilation of the sixties albums, for that Sandie Shaw 
song... You know "Always's something there to remind me" to put on my new 
"Happy Tape" that I have decided to make to listen to on the train to my 
college interview, to make me really happy so maybe I will be a bit chatty 
at the interview. But anyway, I found it. On a "Heartbeat" (you know the 
tele programme) CD. All number ones from the sixties. Already worrying that 
my dad could possibly own such a thing. BUT! Then i carry on reading the 
track listing. And I see: Nick Drake - Fruit tree. This is not too grate for 
me. Heartbeat is poo. And he really wasn't big in the sixties. Not big 
enough to be on there! But not only that, but what it say's exactly is :

************************************************
*Fruit Tree: Nick Drake.   Chart position: N/A *
*Music used in the episode when Nick lost Kate.*
************************************************

Oh Dear.

Nick Berry. Oh dear.

All this comes to me after my mum came in my room once whilst Nick Drake was 
on and said "this is nice". I said "yes Nick Drake. One of the blokes from 
Fairport Convention (she likes them) discovered him".
And so she goes (why does she lie?) "Oh yes, I saw him at last years 
Croprodey (odd folk festival). I though I recognised it"

Oh dear oh dear. I told her he was dead. She told me he wasn't. She'd seen 
him.

All of this after she heard "Get me away from here...." and said, 
"appropriate lyrics, he sounds like he is dying" Grate. Why can't i just 
have cool parents??!!!

Hehehe... ;)

Love to all,
Jo
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From nereusabe at xxx.com  Thu Aug 10 23:15:45 2000
From: nereusabe at xxx.com (M Styer)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:15:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinister: Living on the Earth
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Hello Folks-

I have just arrived home from a two-week family, fun-filled reunion. My
grandmother turned 80. I hope I live that long

Anyway, I know that most of you hate people who dwell on a subject (no, I'm
not going off on a tangent about Pink Floyd), but I came across a recipe for
apple butter (it just made me think of everybody):
core (peel if you wish) apples and place in pot on low flame with water 1/3
as full as pot if full of apples. Stir. It will melt down in 15 or 20
minutes into apple sauce. Add cinnamon or berries if you want.
Cook apple sauce in a heavy pot over a low flame (lid off) 3 to 4 hours
until dark brown. Very sweet.

There is this double cd of B+S in concert (NY) on Ebay.com. It looks really
cool, and if it still on auction I'm going to buy it. But...I hope it isn't
going to be a piece of crap. So, have any of you heard about this "rare" cd?
Is it a fake? Should I keep my hopes up? Should I have told you folks about
it (eyebrow raise)?

Has anybody ever seen the movie, Bottlerocket? It is one of my favorites.
Just a conversation starter for bored people who would like to have an email
conversation (not on the list). Cornuts
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From MBP99KLC at xxx.uk  Fri Aug 11 01:14:43 2000
From: MBP99KLC at xxx.uk (kaytee)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 01:14:43 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Using anything for ashtrays, drinking drinks you can't afford
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hello sinister,

Today I'd like to make some recommendations. I feel kind of cheeky
recommending stuff on sinister because a) I'm not very knowledgeable about
anything really, b) most of these things have been recommended to *me* by
sinisterines much more knowledgeable than myself, who nonetheless don't feel
the need to shout about them on the list and c) when other sinisterines *do*
recommend things I usually forget straight away instead of getting round to
checking them out. But I'm going to shout about them anyway just because
they're so so good. The thing I most want to shout about is ...

**THE LUCKSMITHS**
... whom I think have been mentioned on sinister before ... an Australian
band. Kind of like the best bits of Billy Bragg, ie the cleverest lyrical
twists and turns and the sweetest sentiments - but anyone who doesn't have
much time for Billy shouldn't be put off. They just have the prettiest and
funniest songs, and a singer who sounds like the wisest person in the world
but the nicest person at the same time. Unbelievably their records aren't
available in Britain (or presumably the US) so you have to order them over
the web. Dammit, I'm only halfway through my project of taping Belle &
Sebastian and Pavement for the whole world! The next thing I want to rattle
on about is ...

**BLOOD ON THE TRACKS**
... by Bob Dylan. There are some bands/singers that I always mean to get
something by but I never get round to it because I don't know where best to
start - like Bowie, or the Fall, or early REM. And best-ofs often lose so
much of the charm somehow. Anyway if anyone is looking for a Dylan album,
every song on here is just amazing. Actually sod that, even if you weren't
looking for a Dylan album I want you to hear this. Again, such beautiful
songs and wonderful lyrics. And his voice is just amazing on it too. I
defy - yes, defy! - anyone to listen to this and still say he can't sing.
One last thing ...

**KURT VONNEGUT**
... who has that rare wisest/nicest thing about him too. I've only read half
a book by him but he writes things like: "I reminded him that I still had to
deliver the detestable speech. 'Nobody is going to listen to what you say,'
he assured me. 'People are seldom interested in the actual content of a
speech. They simply want to learn from your tone and gestures and
expressions that you are an honest man.' 'Thank you,' I said." Or: "Miss
Lauber writes for children. Here is the sort of thing she says to them: 'We
are flying through space. Our craft is the earth which orbits the sun at a
speed of 67 000 miles an hour. As it orbits the sun, it spins on its axis.
The sun is a star.' If I were drunk, I might cry about all that."

Okay, I'll be off now. Except I'll just say it should really be Stoo and
Adrian telling you about the Lucksmiths and Mr Vonnegut.

kaytee
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From koolaidwino at xxx.com  Fri Aug 11 03:32:24 2000
From: koolaidwino at xxx.com (brad !)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:32:24 EDT
Subject: Sinister: he ate up all of my corn
Message-ID: <F1863TuylJc0xvlUQ9c000016cc@hotmail.com>


recommendations from this list got me all kinds of good stuff in the past. 
gobetweens, orange juice, some other stuff i can't remember. actually, it's 
one of the few reasons i rejoined. well, that, and because i have no life.

i had to order all those lucksmiths cds from the candle records website, 
too. but it worked out well because the american dollar was apparently 
better than the australian whatever they call it...so i got all the cds 
minus the two i already had for about 70 bucks. it must be said though, that 
the first cd with the giraffe on the cover is crap. and the one with the 
song about fridge magnets isn't much better. but after that, minus a couple 
of songs here and there, it's smooth sailing.

no one one the list has ever mentioned billy bragg i don't think. i always 
wrote him off as a political song writer, and i hate political songwriters. 
as much as i love dylan, i skip right past some of that early shit about war 
and hattie carroll. but i've recently become a billy bragg fan. there's a 
couple of those political songs on each album, but if you skip past them, 
he's a mighty fine lyricist and songwriter. my favorite album is "worker's 
playtime"

yes vonnegut is good. what were you quoting from? one of his newer things? 
while those are all fine and dandy, they don't come nowhere near the genius 
of say "breakfast of champions" (don't rent the horrible horrible movie 
version) or "cat's cradle".....but everyone knows that richard brautigan is 
the best writer ever...right? right?

i'd like to recommend some items now:

beach boys "wild honey"...a much overlooked classic in my opinion
fred neil "fred neil"...not so much overlooked, but a classic nonetheless
townes van zandt "live at the old quarter"...i never heard it get that quiet 
in here
"beg scream and shout...the big ol' box of 60's soul"....worth every penny
vic chesnutt ...anything you can get your hands on except for the new one 
"merriment"...the jury's stil out on that one
lamchop...everything
leonard cohen...everything. even the ones people tell you are crap. "new 
skin for the old ceremony" is my personal favorite (thanks rachael)
essex green....their album and ep that i can't remember the names of right 
now

and now for the best album i've purchased so far this year:

the mendoza line "we're all in this alone"

i hate when people start talking about indie bands i've never heard of as 
much as the next person, but this album is one bad motherfucker! and their 
last album "i like you when you're not around" even quotes stuart murdoch in 
the liner notes and has a song called "ink polaroids" after stuart 
david...and on this kindercore christmas compilation (the new one) they 
cover "fox in the snow"........but that's not to say that they sound 
anything like belle and sebastian..cause they don't. at all. one of the male 
singers reminds me of dylan kinda..especially on the fox in the snow cover. 
it sounds like if dylan started making music today rather than in the 60's 
and then he decided to cover belle and sebastian.

whew!

(said in a "that was a lot" kinda way rather than in a "ric flair" kinda 
way)

-brad

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From BFarrell at xxx.au  Fri Aug 11 06:46:48 2000
From: BFarrell at xxx.au (Farrell, Ben)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:46:48 +1000
Subject: Sinister: I know this is ridiculous, I'm an idiotic Icarus...
Message-ID: <614386740B17D211ADD90080C827546108CD81@ADMIN>

Dear all,

Hooray for Kaytee, who recommended the very cheeky

>LUCKSMITHS**
>... Unbelievably their records aren't available in Britain (or presumably
the US) so you have to order them over
>the web.

at http://www.candlerecords.com.au 

and if you like the Luckies then there are a couple of others on Candle
Records "Home of the Hits" (no less) which, if I may be so bold, could be of
interest, ie: The (now defunct-ish) Simpletons and Ruck Rover, one of who's
members is the lovely Rob Clarkson, who made several delightful solo
recordings, and (sorry to bring back the religion thread) wrote the classic
"Where's you're Catholic Guilt?", which is a must for those on the side of
the debate who would find songs about the Pope masturbating hilarious. I
certainly do. 

So, enough of the OzRock history lesson. My name is Ben and this is my first
post. 

Now, some more: Big Stu wrote, a little while ago, of the Australian 'yoof'
radio station JJJ which introduced Looper as a 'Glaswegian hip-hop
collective'. Aren't they?

Leaving aside the fact that this is very 'cute' (SD skipping around in baggy
pants and big sneakers...la la la), its actually not a bad effort, given the
lack of information/coverage we get here, the (often) ignorant and
mainstream attitude of the radio station in question, and the general
funkiness of the music. Forgive them, for they know not what they do (or
something) - the media juggernaut must have run out of puff before reaching
our sunburnt shores. I'm sure our local community radio station would play
them if they could, but they haven't had enough money to buy any new records
since 1976.

Actually, JJJ has been giving Legal Man a belting on the odd occasion, which
is nice. Before that, the only thing I'd heard them play was The Boy with
the Arab Strap when it first came out. What kind of stations play their
records elsewhere? Did Legal Man really send B&S into the giddy world of
commercial success, as promised?

I love it, by the way: for the fact that it is possibly their only real
cracking dancefloor number. Though dancing around to Judy or TBWTAS or La
Pastie is nice, I think this one's a real hip-shaker that you don't have to
"know" (which I think is the case with the above) to be moved to the
dancefloor. And it sounds ace turned all the way up. Hi Justin. Is that the
key to selling pop: having enough momentum to carry the kids along without
them realising it? Yes, that's the word for Legal Man - momentous.

OK, what else? Fairy wings. There was a cross-dressing party at the
university bar last night. I was leaving and in the carpark I saw these five
ladies get out of a Ford Festiva on their way to the bar. They were all
wearing fairy wings and little cutsie-pie dresses. They sprayed me and my
mate with water pistols. I couldn't help thinking that night would end in
confusion and/or tears for many a wide-eyed pixie...

See you,

Ben.



  
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From Alex  at xxx.net>  Fri Aug 11 06:46:05 2000
From: Alex  at xxx.net> (Alex  at xxx.net>)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 07:46:05 +0200
Subject: Sinister: interview mick!
Message-ID: <B5B95FBD.1BA4%alex@kindamuzik.net>

Hi everyone, and thanks in advance for tolerating this outburst  on the
list...

My name is Alex, and I help run Dutch online magazine The Kinda Muzik You
Like (http://www.kindamuzik.net).

I'm writing to the list here to ask for your help (on a strictly voluntary
basis...):

Recently, we've discussed setting up a little interview with B&S's very own
Mick. To do this one, I thought it would be a good idea to let the real fans
ask the questions, so I came up with this...

Readers of Q magazine's 'Cash for Questions' might recognize the format: You
send in the best, funniest, and most intelligent questions, and we'll pick
our faves and pass them on to Mick. Topic can be anything you like. The only
catch is that we can't award you with cash, but be sure to include your
complete name and place you live, and we'll give full credit to you under
your question...

Anything else you'd like to know? If so or if not, send all of your
questions to me, Alex, at alex at kindamuzik.net.

I'll keep you up-to-date on the progress!

Cheers,


Alex
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From 50158120 at xxx.hk  Fri Aug 11 08:32:55 2000
From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:32:55 +0800
Subject: Sinister: Alice in the Wonder bra
Message-ID: <965979175.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk>

Kind Kids

My world's  Fucked UP               
Dunno What can I DO
.... ....... ...... ..... ........ .... ...... ...... .....
Subject is not a Subject
It is an Object and pls press the 
>>>> STOP <<<<
>>>> Button <<<<
so everything will:      

STOP!                        Laying on the floor is fine

STOP!!               Hey, Use the words u don't understand is cool

STOP  !!!!             Coz u can join the miserable world of Poet
A.K.A Dead People
-----------------------I am not kidding--------------------------------


Belle and Sebastian Content:
Photo Jenny is my "B n S song of the Week".
It is cool to huv a awkward award.
Like <Band Name of the Year>
<Single title of the week> 
<Best interviewee of the year>
big mouth. Fuck NME. NME people will do stupid things like this

Mate, I am really sick.

Toby C
Island East
Hong Kong




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From tony.green at xxx.com  Fri Aug 11 10:36:46 2000
From: tony.green at xxx.com (Anthony Green)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:36:46 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Trembling Blue Fairy Wings
Message-ID: <a04320402b5b979236bd5@[213.38.72.150]>

>  >Another thing (before I forget), did anyone happen to be at
>  the Tompaulin/Trembling Blue Stars Borderline gig the other
>  night??  They were both fantastic...


Why thank you *grin*, best of all (for me) was everyone was crediting 
me  with organizing it when all I had to do was make half a dozen 
phone  calls. TBS are stars to work with though - always polite and 
never argue over money.

  Eric was noticeable by her absence however.

TBS are are one of the bands featured in a webcast of the Emmaboda 
Festival this weekend over on Popwire.com so you'll get to see them 
for free, all be in a jerky pixelated format.

The Magnetic Fields/6ths are playing Shepherds Bush Empire on Nov 
1st. Anyone who was at the recent QEH gig will agree this is a must.

T
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From vibrosheep at xxx.net  Fri Aug 11 12:48:48 2000
From: vibrosheep at xxx.net (vibrosheep at xxx.net)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:48:48 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Welsh Rarebit
Message-ID: <200008111148.LAA10296@mailhost.vivao.net>


I just can't contain my anger - what do you do when International Celebrity Showbiz Superstar couple Myfannwy Von Biggenbaps and that oversexed little twonk Michael Douglas hijack your number one top of the list, has been for months, baby name ??

Now every common fuckers going to name their kids Dylan, even if it's a girl, and that just won't do.  I thought of it first and that stoopid fucking cow can just rename her fucking baby..cunts.

Now obviously I'm as common as the next council estate dwelling Yokel, but I will not be seen to be led by such Welsh individuals.

Celebrities should not be allowed to name their children, they should just be called Celebrity Child.

I hate you, now I'm going to have to think.

Knobs.
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From kipberman at xxx.com  Fri Aug 11 07:33:07 2000
From: kipberman at xxx.com (Kip Berman)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 02:33:07 EDT
Subject: Sinister: good bye
Message-ID: <F208KWZfEAkqBiBsbrL00000cc2@hotmail.com>

dear sinisterites,
i'll be unsubscribing soon. I hope you don't miss me too too much. I'm sure 
i'll return, penetant, at some future time. But with the impending 
schoolyear, i haven't the time to give careful thought and consideration to 
everyone's belle and sebastian dreams. And besides, it seems that many 
listees get very poor grades(and i'm quite sure that these are very 
intelligent people based on their well written, if a bit affected, posts). I 
remember a great many "i'm sure i did awful on exams, but it doesn't matter 
because i'm listening to tigerfishytwattysin and am quite content (in a 
mopy, scottish sort of way). And that's the sort of happiness to which i 
aspire.

kip
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From smiley at xxx.uk  Fri Aug 11 15:27:11 2000
From: smiley at xxx.uk (Mr Smiley)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:27:11 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Rah
Message-ID: <00a701c003a0$75792c20$ba09883e@freeserve.co.uk>

Hello,

    So yeah, I went to America. Not my choice of destination, I'll confess. There
are lots of things I don't like. For instance, why doesn't anyone drive a Fiat?
It's absurd watching people trying to reverse park a pick up truck the size of a
house, when I think how easy it would be for my Fiat Uno. It's not green, by the
way. It's blue. And it's a proper boxy car. I mean, it's about 15 years old, and
it looks like the designer realised one morning that he'd forgotten to design that
car he was supposed to, so he just handed a shoebox in to the important people,
with some windows drawn on with black felt tip pen.
    Anyway, I digress. Oh yeah, Americans have portions of food in a far far far
to big kind of style. I mean honestly, over here in the third world I have to eat
soil. Or perhaps not.
    And I didn't find an Internet cafe, so I couldn't email anyone for a week.
Which was crap.
    And my mother kept doctoring her accent when talking to Americans.

    Anyway, enough of this.

    Um, I know it happened a very long time ago, I just haven't gotten round to
posting about it, but I'd like to talk about the Sheffield Sinister picnic. I feel
I should, having a hand in it's (dis)organisation.
    So, yeah, I met some nice people and I had a generally nice time, bar the
encounter with the nasty old man in the toilets who was dancing with Madam Palm
and her 5 beautiful daughters.
    The thing is, I don't like the way we split up into two groups. I realised
this at the time, but I was too shy to jump up and start talking to people. So,
there were loads of people there that I never even found out the names of. And
that's crap. So, if you're one of those people, I'm sorry, and if there's ever
another picnic anywhere around here I promise to not drive there and therefore get
pissed enough to talk to people.

    That's more or less it, you're all beautiful.

Mike
ICQ: 73775341
www.rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk

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From LunaLilly at xxx.com  Fri Aug 11 18:28:19 2000
From: LunaLilly at xxx.com (LunaLilly at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:28:19 EDT
Subject: Sinister: an invitation to a closet
Message-ID: <62.631f6ca.26c591b3@aol.com>

Hi.......So right now I am in the midst of having such a needed day off and 
planning my trip to the UK. I have a week there before I head to France. So 
if any of you want to recommend a club or an anything I think that would be 
so nice. Sorry, that's selfish. But anyway. My best friend bought me the box 
set of singles on a trip she just took. I already had 3..6..9..but the others 
I was soooo happy to get. I love them very much now. I like the song on Lazy 
Line Painter Jane (I just woke and I can't think of the name) where I assume 
it was Stuart, who has sort of has this little breathy laugh before the music 
sets in. MMM! I love that part. I went to a stupid show last night. it might 
be the last show at a lovely venue....the only really good one we have. Very 
sad. Although the scene here is sick. A bunch of Connor Oberst obsessed kids. 
They don't even see beyond that and the local bands are all they like. And 
because of this they somehow think they are cooler than cool. Oh well. I love 
them all. The one I really love is the boy that runs the local record 
company. Sigh.....I do love him. He's so cute and I swoon when he walks by. 
The Lucksmiths are adorable. I was wondering if anyone liked them besides me. 
Now I know. My brother makes fun of them. And Brad.....Mendoza Line is so 
amazing. I love them very much along with Sussex Green. It's so nice to hear 
other people giving them all props. Well, I want to stop typing now. Have 
nice weekends. Olivia
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From declan63 at xxx.com  Fri Aug 11 18:50:30 2000
From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:50:30 -0400
Subject: Sinister: an invitation to a closet
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Subject: Sinister: an invitation to a closet


And Brad.....Mendoza Line is so
> amazing. I love them very much along with Sussex Green. It's so nice to hear
> other people giving them all props. Well, I want to stop typing now. Have
> nice weekends. Olivia


ah, it warms my heart to see my mendoza buddies getting recognition.  :)  i kinda wish they'd come back from new york, but that's
not my call is it?

i saw sussex, or is it "essex", i can't remember, green last night down here at the kindercore expo.  i thought the female
keyboard/vocalist/flautist was a bit chilly, but an enjoyable set nevertheless.  i was completely floored by of montreal.  i don't
know how i've been able to avoid hearing them for so long, and it's humbling to think "that's the guy from the video
store..............what am *i* doing at night?"  (A: writing about them  :) )   i've never seen a crowd go quite so apeshit, they're
really big heroes to these folks and that added even more power to the phenomenal energy already coming off the stage.  it was
enough to completely wake me up, which i was doubting any band could do at that point, i just wanted to go to bed.  the typically
excellent masters of the hemisphere seemed almost dull by comparison.  and that's saying a lot, they're a great band.  (though i was
hoping they'd pull out their "age of consent" cover again)

alright, back to the coal mine.

jay

"...complaining, 'women only like me for my mind'"


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From LunaLilly at xxx.com  Fri Aug 11 19:32:20 2000
From: LunaLilly at xxx.com (LunaLilly at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:32:20 EDT
Subject: Sinister: grr
Message-ID: <37.8ca4c05.26c5a0b4@aol.com>

yes it's essex. I am a silly girl. All these British things in my head today. 
Forgive me. Olivia
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From edb213 at xxx.edu  Fri Aug 11 23:11:54 2000
From: edb213 at xxx.edu (Eric D Brasure)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:11:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinister: be a little more selfish. it might do you some good.
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.21.0008111749480.28910-100000@is9.nyu.edu>

does anyone else think of something, think "that would be a nice little
sinister post", file it away, then when you have enough to feel justified
in sending them, you promptly forget? maybe I'm just too bored at work.
all this talk of the magnetic fields is making my head spin. I bought, um,
"holiday" because I liked the picture on the front and the song titles
were interesting, and it quickly became my "I don't know what to listen to
so I'll listen to this" cd. and just recently I bought "get lost" and I
absolutely love it to bits. so I'm going to ask for "69 love songs" for
christmas or something. all I want for christmas this year are box sets,
since I'm too cheap to drop $40 on them myself. I guess I should still be
grateful that my parents are buying me lots of presents like they did when
I was a kid. of course, that may be because they want me to be a kid. or
maybe I am still a kid.
I've been thinking recently about how nice it would be to run away to
europe and live in a castle. who owns them, and why? would I have to buy a
castle, and fix it up, or could I just kinda hide-out and sleep under the
stairs? I've also been thinking of which country I should run away to, and
I've decided the u.k, because I speak english and so do they. or so I've
heard. 
mr smiley said: "Anyway, I digress. Oh yeah, Americans have portions of 
food in a far far far to big kind of style. I mean honestly, over here in
the third world I have to eat soil. Or perhaps not."
you must have been going to cheap restaurants, because all the expensive
ones give tiny portions that double as post-modern art. this is just one
of the many perverse things about my country. I don't understand pickup
trucks, either. I used to own a sky-blue 1987 oldmobile with seats that
leaned back like you were in a dentist's chair. I miss that car. 
does anyone know the computer game "the sims"? you control fake people and
live their lives. kind of an allegory for my life. anyway, I like to make
mp3s of b&s tunes and make them turn on the stereo and dance to them. they
especially like "judy and the dream of horses".
this has gone on far too long. sorry.

-eric
"If you start out depressed, everything's a pleasant surprise." -Lloyd
Dobler 

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From mikelsen at xxx.nz  Sat Aug 12 11:14:12 2000
From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 22:14:12 +1200
Subject: Sinister: rant in A minor
Message-ID: <001a01c00448$f6fff5a0$1c6137d2@computer>

Hey gang.

Am feeling a little mad today. I've been in front of my computer for the
last 9 hours making the sort of little cosmetic changes to my web site that
NO ONE will actually notice, in preparation for a job interview I have on
Tuesday.

I should point out this has been a crap year so far for me. My posts tend to
be chirpy, and I haven't really complained too much about the sorry state of
my life, but since finishing my academic "career" late last year I have had
a succession of pathetic soul destroying jobs whilst trying VERY VERY hard
to get a "proper" job in a web design firm. I'm sure a lot of listees know
the feeling - you're skilled and desperate to work, but because you don't
have "industry experience" (whatever the hell that means) no one will look
at you. I have had so many interviews this year, and have come so close so
many times, always to get knocked back because some "with more experience"
happens to turn up. I mean, short of whoring myself for crack, how do I get
that exprience???

It is crushing my soul.

Anyway, all this is a prelude to today'sost, which may, through no fault of
my own, end up a little on the ranty side.

***EBAY***
I am sick to death of people selling CD-Rs on eBay. I have absolutely no
problems with bootlegs per se, and don't really understand why record
company's are so uptight about them. If fans are willing to pay money for
something a record company isn't willing to release, I don't see the
problem. You're not taking money off the artist, because the artist would
have made nothing from it had it remained unreleased. To this end I am very
happy with the CD of the Bowlie weekender I bought from eBay a couple of
weeks ago - it cost me about  three times what I normally pay for a CD, but
the sound is excellent, and it's a great gig. And for someone who is
unlikely to ever see my favourite band live, it's a *relatively* small price
to pay in the long term.

What I *do* have a problem with is some poxy kid buying a "proper" bootleg,
and then running off multiple copies on their CD writer and guiltlessly
hocking them off on ebay on a weekly basis to the tune of US $50 or so. I
think this is an incredibly mean spirited thing to do. I mean, trade them,
make copies for free or sell them for the price of the disc and postage or
something, but I don't believe music fans should be making a profit off the
back of other fans. These people never menton that the albums they're
selling are CD-Rs. However, pretty much every one I've ever mailed to check
has either not bothered to reply, or has come back saying "of course it is -
there are no 'real' CD bootlegs of B&S" Which is of course complete
bollocks.

So from now on I'm going to start being a bit mean and complaining to ebay
about these sellers, given that selling CD-Rs is against eBays rules.

I think David Kitchen  used to do this ... but I suspect he may not have the
time any more.

***THE 80'S***
I HATE it when people slag off the 80's. The 80's was an incredibly rich
time for music, and just because top 40 stations didn't necessarily play
"the good stuff" doesn't mean it wasn't there. Unfortunately he (or she) who
wins the chart battle seems to win the war. Hence, the usual "best of the
80s" copilations are usually filled with Nik Kershaw and his ilk. I don't
know if anyone has thought about or noticed this, but it seems like even the
early 90's have now been forgotten. I was watching some American music
awards earlier this year, and they did a "best bands of the 90's" poll, and
Nirvana weren't even mentioned! Now I'm no great Nirvana fan, but as a band,
they (for a time at least) completely altered the musical landscape. I mean,
it's not like bands like Alice in Chains or The Stone Temple Pilots could
have had chart hits were it not for Nirvana. I'm sure we all know in our
hearts that the "best of the 90's" compilations which will start coming out
soon will be filled with Britneys and Christinas and Mandys, and there won't
be a Stephin Merrit, B&S or Pavenment song in miles. (sigh)

As a footnote, I attach a list of some great 80's bands. (In no particular
order ...)
The Smiths
Orange Juice
The Go-Betweens
Josef K
(early) Aztec Camera
The Pale Fountains
Felt
REM
The Triffids
Talk Talk
The Wedding Present
New Order
The Stone Roses (just)
The ENTIRE output of NZ's own Flying Nun label, most notably recordings by
The Chills, The Sneaking Feelings, The Verlaines, The Clean etc.

There. I could go on and on ..... but I'm starting to feel a little wired,
so I guess I'd better get some sleep.

Goodnight team .....

Lawrence Mikkelsen
http://www.akn.quik.co.nz/mikelsen/aboutme

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From david at xxx.uk  Sun Aug 13 00:09:09 2000
From: david at xxx.uk (David White)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 00:09:09 +0100
Subject: Sinister: PAPER BOAT MP3
Message-ID: <LNBBIEGADDEMDLPIAGBKKECCCCAA.david@djwhite47.freeserve.co.uk>

Just a quick note to let everybody know that you can now download the B&S
track Paper Boat on MP3 from my site www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk

It's the Black Session one, so some of you might already have it, but if you
don't then it's well worth a listen.

Just click on the DOWNLOADS link and you'll find it, along with Middle
Distance Runner on MP3.

Enjoy!

David
david at djwhite47.freeserve.co.uk

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From ISawUfall at xxx.com  Sun Aug 13 02:33:03 2000
From: ISawUfall at xxx.com (ISawUfall at xxx.com)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 21:33:03 EDT
Subject: Sinister: searching 4 BLUEBOY cds, vinyl *noB&Scontent*
Message-ID: <200008130131.CAA03039@missprint.org>

HELLO,

im sorry to bother the list but i think that some of you might be able to help me...

i want to procure blueboy cds ('cept BANK OF ENGLAND) and/or vinyl...

however, if someone has all/almost all their material and has a cd recorder that would be ideal....i will pay you..


i will pay any of you if you could make me a nice cd....or sell me a copy of UNISEX or anything....cos i love them to bits!!


arabesque would be nice too

also does anyone know what happened to GEMMA (the old femal singer in BLUEBOY)

i will stop now


but please help me...or point me in the right direction




DAVID
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From vannymas at xxx.com  Sun Aug 13 03:02:15 2000
From: vannymas at xxx.com (Vann Masvidal)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 19:02:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: desparate cries for "help"
Message-ID: <20000813020215.13360.qmail@web3402.mail.yahoo.com>

oh, me. i don't know if i can go on. one more day
without a copy of the mtv special(and/or any other tv
bits) on b+s might just do this guy in.i saw it last
summer during my trip to the cool streets of glasgow
and miss it! so if anyone can be of any assistance,
please, i'm begging. i dont have much to offer in
return, maybe i could tape some  go-betweens videos or
make a mix tape of GREAT brazillian music for you in
return.thanks people. "sincerely", Vann               
  SORRY ABOUT THE LOWER-CASE TYPING.I'M NEW AT THIS.

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From garymaher at xxx.com  Sun Aug 13 04:02:27 2000
From: garymaher at xxx.com (garymaher at xxx.com)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 23:02:27 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Insert clever, somewhat relevant subject or snippet of song lyric here.
Message-ID: <20000812.230249.-383259.0.garymaher@juno.com>

On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 02:31:13 +0100 (GMT/BST), give or take a few
milliseconds, somebody in the know quoth:

> but everyone knows that richard brautigan is the best writer
ever...right? right?

Yes, absolutely.  Well, next to William Faulkner.  Brautigan is the
master of the (very) short story, IMHO.  I find Faulkner's novels more
breathtaking though.

I don't read anything else anymore.  There's too much music to listen to.

Gary

This has been my first post.  Good day.

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From squishedmuffin at xxx.com  Sun Aug 13 12:11:21 2000
From: squishedmuffin at xxx.com (ally)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 04:11:21 -0700
Subject: Sinister: The evilness of reults
Message-ID: <CAJGPGIADLDKAAAA@shared3.whowhere.com>

Does anyone else have exam results looming?
I am sure you do, well I just thought I would have a rant about how nasty the A level/university system is over here in the uk.
The fact that it is now mid way through August and I still do not know where I am headed to at the very beginning of October makes me angry.
And I am so so so scared results day is on Thursday and what do I do if it all goes wrong?  I believe that some evil educator has actually sat down and thought of the nastiest possible way to inflict the university application process on us poor wannabe students.
Aaaaaaaargh
Anyway, on a lighter note I have a brand new job, at the illustrious coffee republic. I'm in the covent gdn branch so if any of you are around  I am the one whose uniform is too large and whose hair sticks out at rightangles from the hat. Yesterday a man in a Belle and Seb T shirt walked in and I gave him a smile as I handed him his drink. Sadly I am not good at frothing the milk- I just can't get the hang of it.
It stops me from worrying about impending results day, oooh I have butterflies in my stomach just writing about it.
To think some examiner already knows my fate- ohno
Ally


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From nik_ovenden at xxx.com  Sun Aug 13 12:28:49 2000
From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 04:28:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: beeswax - fun to chew, fun to burn, is there anything greater?
Message-ID: <20000813112849.24390.qmail@web2104.mail.yahoo.com>

Hey sinistereenies,
gosh, so much has happened, so here goes again:

PIXIDUST
ain't she been stirring up some insurrections?  i'm
not complaining, i love it!  but then she disappears. 
Is she an NME mole, sent in to destroy the fragile
network of harmonious discontent?  or did they
underestimate our powers?

anyway, it's my turn.  for those of you in the UK, you
will be aware of the NOTW's interesting campaign to
tell the lower-class (sorry, thats a flagrant
generalisation) twonks who like to riot where known
paedophiles live.  after 2 deaths (suicides) relating
to this, what should we be doing?  my opinion is that
since the NOTW have basically violated human rights
priviledges (without an apology, may i add), that the
government should, at the very least, fine them a
substantial amount, if not convict them of (indirect)
manslaughter.

hey hey, that might be interesting to discuss...if
anyone ever reads my messages...he he.
the 'over the pond' sinistereenies could join in with
their discussion over megan's law - anyone got an
opinion?  hope so...

FREE INTERNET
if a kid comes round your house and gives you his
username, password and number, is it wrong to use it
for free internet calls?  i mean, it costs him nothing
extra, and we dont have to pay � (insert extortionate 
fee) to use it!

THE ACID HOUSE
i am never leaving food out of my eyeshot ever again.

EDINBURGH
where are the meetups?   a friend and i are going to
the Dali exhibition, MacHomer and that bloke who lost
a quarter of his audience complaining about the
holocaust (read the guardian's articles on how the
holocaust should now be a minor factor?  they put
forward a convincing article...i'm not starting a
debate on this...yet)

READING
yippee! 3 festivals in a year...i can see all the
bands i missed!

SNOW PATROL
not long till the new album's out...ooh.

LOOPER
quitting Jeepster?  is mr David not happy or
something?
i am in the dark here, will someone knowledgable (or
more so than me...so thats anyone...) help me out? 
Ta.

well, that's enough.  sorry for all that,
Love Niko
xxx

PS is honey better? not the food, the person...

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From nik_ovenden at xxx.com  Sun Aug 13 12:28:59 2000
From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 04:28:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: beeswax - fun to chew, fun to burn, is there anything greater?
Message-ID: <20000813112859.13114.qmail@web2106.mail.yahoo.com>

Hey sinistereenies,
gosh, so much has happened, so here goes again:

PIXIDUST
ain't she been stirring up some insurrections?  i'm
not complaining, i love it!  but then she disappears. 
Is she an NME mole, sent in to destroy the fragile
network of harmonious discontent?  or did they
underestimate our powers?

anyway, it's my turn.  for those of you in the UK, you
will be aware of the NOTW's interesting campaign to
tell the lower-class (sorry, thats a flagrant
generalisation) twonks who like to riot where known
paedophiles live.  after 2 deaths (suicides) relating
to this, what should we be doing?  my opinion is that
since the NOTW have basically violated human rights
priviledges (without an apology, may i add), that the
government should, at the very least, fine them a
substantial amount, if not convict them of (indirect)
manslaughter.

hey hey, that might be interesting to discuss...if
anyone ever reads my messages...he he.
the 'over the pond' sinistereenies could join in with
their discussion over megan's law - anyone got an
opinion?  hope so...

FREE INTERNET
if a kid comes round your house and gives you his
username, password and number, is it wrong to use it
for free internet calls?  i mean, it costs him nothing
extra, and we dont have to pay � (insert extortionate 
fee) to use it!

THE ACID HOUSE
i am never leaving food out of my eyeshot ever again.

EDINBURGH
where are the meetups?   a friend and i are going to
the Dali exhibition, MacHomer and that bloke who lost
a quarter of his audience complaining about the
holocaust (read the guardian's articles on how the
holocaust should now be a minor factor?  they put
forward a convincing article...i'm not starting a
debate on this...yet)

READING
yippee! 3 festivals in a year...i can see all the
bands i missed!

SNOW PATROL
not long till the new album's out...ooh.

LOOPER
quitting Jeepster?  is mr David not happy or
something?
i am in the dark here, will someone knowledgable (or
more so than me...so thats anyone...) help me out? 
Ta.

well, that's enough.  sorry for all that,
Love Niko
xxx

PS is honey better? not the food, the person...

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From nik_ovenden at xxx.com  Sun Aug 13 13:07:51 2000
From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 05:07:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: ooh...blush...sorry
Message-ID: <20000813120751.16935.qmail@web2103.mail.yahoo.com>

ergh, shoot me in the head...
sending the same thing twice?  i hate it when people
do that.
as penance i will now be flogged while listening to
the plight of lazy line painter jane.
Sorry,
Love Niko
xxx

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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Sun Aug 13 20:34:24 2000
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 20:34:24 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Juices and the Creamy Sauces
Message-ID: <200008131934.UAA20149@missprint.org>

Hiya,

Hmm, I went to a club called "The Dome" last night with friends and I have 
had a rather "interesting" evening!

1) World's Worse Conman!

If you happen to have 3 pounds on you, it is worth going to Tottenham 
Court Road to see the world's worse conman!

I was walking along yesterday afternoon, and this guy approached me, 
apparently there's this hostel thing which helps homeless youths and 
they charge 8 pounds for some kid to live for a month (hmm!) and he is 
like 3 quid short.  And he asks me if I can pay him the money...

Being the charitable person that I am, I told him that I'll walk to the 
hostel with him and pay the money then.. he started to panic then, and 
muttered something like it's really far away, but, since as you probably 
know I'm normally rather bored and has nothing better to do, I said that 
I'll walk with him.. just to see what sort of excuse he'll come up with 
then.

So we spent about 15 minutes walking up and down TCR, and finally arrived 
at this place which was used to be a hostel, and then he wanted the cash.. 
I said why don't we go into the place and I'll pay the money then?  Then, 
he said "Oh, if I am seen being paid money to live here the hard kids will 
beat me up!  You don't know what it's like there and they'll bully me, cos, 
I don't drink or swear like they do!!!"

I almost started laughing at that point, but since he put up such a good 
show I gave him 3 quid anyway (much more innovative than saying "Spare any 
change mate" next to a cash machine.. If I have money why the hell am I 
going to a cash machine!!!!).  Afterwards I was thinking whether I should 
have done that, like encouraging him to con people and stuff.. hmm dunno.

His "escape" routine was pretty lame tho, after we went into the hostel, 
of course it's not the hostel anymore and it's moved some place else, so 
we will walk to the new place, I was hoping that he will just leg it in a 
spectacular fashion, but instead he met up with one of his mates and then 
just ignored me.. which was quite boring and I felt conned that I didn't 
get a better show than that. Never mind.

2) Drunken people

On my underground train journey, there were some drunken Northern people 
harassing the girls, and one by one those girls leave the train at the 
earliest possible moment, then I got mistaken for being a girl, which 
was quite funny.  The way the guy went "bluddy hill hay's ay lad!" was 
particularly funny.

3) Drunken bloke

Then I was at Tufnell Park waiting for my friends to arrive, sitting on 
the steps drinking a can of Carling, an old drunk bloke came and sat 
next to me, and then he gave me some money and asked me to buy him a 
bottle of brandy, and being a nice lad that I am I went to buy it for 
him.. hmm I really shouldn't have bought an alcoholic more drinks... I 
was quite worried that I may have killed him, I hope not.

4) Drunken me

Hmm, so that was a rather fun packed evening, and all that was BEFORE I 
went to the club :) where I was served a pint of Carlsberg for cheap 1.50, 
but blantantly mixed with cheap wine.. not nice but I suppose it's done its 
job!  Then I had a rather tasty "Cheese and egg burger" in a kebaburger 
place in Camden.



Nik Said....
>>anyway, it's my turn. for those of you in the UK, you
will be aware of the NOTW's interesting campaign to
tell the lower-class (sorry, thats a flagrant
generalisation) twonks who like to riot where known
paedophiles live.<<

I don't want to say a lot about this but I think that the way the NOTW
blantantly cashing in on a little girl who's been killed (which is bad 
enough) and then portraying itself as heroes is quite disgusting.

On a happier note, electric Go-peds are the best thing on Earth!

Go-peds and redbulls
Ken
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From declan63 at xxx.com  Sun Aug 13 22:54:30 2000
From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 17:54:30 -0400
Subject: Sinister: photo jay
Message-ID: <000b01c00571$0ee1db60$2a101218@athen1.ga.home.com>

hello all.  if anyone is interested i put a few pictures from this week's kindercore expo2000 up at
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/jnagy63      i apologize in advance for how underexposed they are, i was only able to salvage these out
of 35 in total.  i *did* mean to blur some of them a little......but probably not quite that much.   :)

jay, who's popped out

"isn't she smart, isn't she grand"


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From wpsalt at xxx.com  Mon Aug 14 00:02:21 2000
From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 00:02:21 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: the fo[u]nt of all knowledge
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10008132335230.6566-100000@candle.btinternet.com>

Hello, sinister.  Unfortunately, I have a few thoughts which I absolutely
*must* share.




[pause]


[longer pause]




Damn, I can't remember what any of them were.  Earth-shattering, I assure
you.  Never mind; you'll just have to make do with whatever's on the top
of my head.

MUSIC THAT GETS REMEMBERED
Lawrence Mikkelsen recently said that 80s music wasn't that bad, really,
but all we remember is the stuff that was in the top 40 all the time, and
gets on to "Best of the 80s" compilation CDs.  Does that mean that B&S's
pre-Legal Man stuff is all going to be forgotten except by a small
flame-burning minority of fans?

(pessimists might, of course, claim that this is the current situation.)

PAEDOPHILES AND THE MEDIA
I didn't think much of the News Of The World's actions, and aren't going
to buy it until I forget to remind myself not to buy it.  Since I never
buy it for myself anyway, this isn't going to do much harm to Rupert
Murdoch's personal fortune, but that's hardly the point.  I do think it's
a shame that nobody has published their editor's address yet -- or, for
that matter, that of her Partner In Sexual Congress, Mr. Ross Kemp
("...this man has committed terrible crimes against acting!  OUR CHILDREN
have been forced to watch him 'perform' ON NATIONAL TV!").  I am a fan of
Natural Justice, but not of lynching the neighbours.

(note to non-Brits: Kemp was an actor in the UK soap "Eastenders". His
acting "talent" is limited to one thing: Doing a Menacing Look.)

EDINBURGH
is a bloody awful place to be at this time of year.  Far too many
tourists.  Last Sunday, I went out, forgetting about the Festival
Cavalcade, and had to spend an hour sitting in Princes Street Gardens just
because I was waiting to cross the road.

OK, OK, I could have gone round.  But it would've been a long way.  And
that's not the point.

BEING MISTAKENLY THOUGHT TO BE FEMALE
Happens to me all the time.  I try not to shave too often, which reduces
it somewhat.  I suppose I could shave my head.

THE SUBJECT OF THIS MESSAGE
Just the other day, I bought a copy of the sheet music for FYHCYWLAP -- I
was walking through Edinburgh, passing the music shop on Queensferry
Street, and remembered that it should be in the shops by now.  And it was.
Anyway, I bought a copy, and noticed that it's all printed in the same
font as the album itself, which in turn is the same font used for several
other B&S productions -- Tigermilk, for example.  Anyway, the question
that has been bugging me since is:  what font is it?  it looks a bit like
Century Schoolbook.  It also looks like Computer Modern, but the stems of
the letters look *slightly* too thick (at least, to my eye).  Does anybody
know the answer to this?


(OK, I'm going to stop now.  Sorry to take up your screen.)


-- 
Will Salt


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From llu at xxx.edu  Mon Aug 14 00:31:32 2000
From: llu at xxx.edu (Liqin Lu)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 19:31:32 -0400
Subject: Sinister: first post
Message-ID: <NDBBJNNAMLJHLDNFOPIPGEHACAAA.llu@middlebury.edu>

hello all! hope u all had a good weekend, mine sucked. a friend dragged me
to burlington this morning, and i did not have fun. we talked till 4 last
night and discovered we were surprisingly similar on a lot of things. i
thought maybe i finally found one person i could really talk to in this
school. i was content. she said she wanted to go to burlington cuz she
needed new bras, i said i didn't want to go cuz i didn't need anything; she
convinced me it'd be fun. so we slept for 6 hrs(and it was not a good sleep)
and headed south. we went with another friend who needed a hot pot. we got
to downtown and browsed thru the shops and the main mall. all the way they
were so excited talking and window shopping, i was not doing any of those
bcuz i didn't understand what they were so excited about and again, i didn't
need anything. so i got very bored, and tired after a few hrs of walking
back and forth without a goal. i kept asking myself what the hell am i doing
here, and i started to feel disgusted by them. this was the second time for
me to have unpleasant experience with burlington, i should probably avoid
going from now on.

liqin
midd, vermont, us

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From tigermilker at xxx.com  Mon Aug 14 01:16:17 2000
From: tigermilker at xxx.com (Tigermilker .)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 01:16:17 BST
Subject: Sinister: "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper       
Message-ID: <LAW-F101vAN31jCBu1R00016543@hotmail.com>

"sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper

I'm sure he didn't say that, did he? Nasty speach impediment if he did.

Sorry. I'm drunk, and this has annoyed me for.....ooooooh centuries, and now 
seemed a good time to share my heartfelt grievance.

Please forgive my anality.
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From DelyM2 at xxx.com  Mon Aug 14 07:01:58 2000
From: DelyM2 at xxx.com (DelyM2 at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 02:01:58 EDT
Subject: Sinister: simple.
Message-ID: <200008140559.GAA07823@missprint.org>

While it would be fun to own a record with songs such as rhoda and lord anthony on it, its probably best that it doesnt come that easy.   

Its kind of like that movie you absolutely love that comes on the televisoin every once in awhile.  when you own it on video , it just isnt the same.    

\Ir*rel"a*van*cy\ 
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From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk  Mon Aug 14 13:17:03 2000
From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:17:03 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: SiNiSteR  PiC-NiC -  LoNdoN, 27th AuGusT
Message-ID: <20000814121703.8787.qmail@web3006.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi there...
It's 100% certain now... we're going to have a pic-nic
on the 27th August... and I've got my airplane tickets
at last!!! I'll be in London on the 25th!! Just try to
stop me... OK... pic-nic details...
Place: Greenwich Park
Time:  2pm
Place of meet-up: near the statue on the top of the
hill
Ways to get to Greenwich Park:
1) take a british rail train to Greenwich station
2) take the tube to north greenwich then take a bus
3) take the bus 188
4) just walk if you live near by...

That's all for now... If anything changes, we'll let
you know... like what if it rains, pub to meet, etc
etc...
I hope I'll see you all there... 
hugs
        Vel xxx

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From dod at xxx.uk  Mon Aug 14 14:18:46 2000
From: dod at xxx.uk (The Duke of Danborough)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:18:46 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: SiNiSteR  PiC-NiC -  LoNdoN, 27th AuGusT
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No no no??!!
 Wahhh!!
   That's Reading Sunday! Rage Against The Machine are on the main stage! 
 Now this is cunning- lots of party peeps will probably be in The Big
Smoke on the Monday -the 28th (incidentally a bank holiday when they are
coming back from not everyones fave armpit fest) would this be a better
date or is that not how we do things here?

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From kmhyde at xxx.edu  Mon Aug 14 14:24:18 2000
From: kmhyde at xxx.edu (kmhyde at xxx.edu)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:24:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinister: onegin is my brother....
Message-ID: <200008141324.JAA19317@webmail.wm.edu>


Hello to all and sundry. This is my first post, so I'll 
try to do those things which are accepted as 
conventions by the sinus populi. 

My name is Kevin, I'm 20 years old, I attend College at 
William and Mary in VA, and I play guitar and write 
shtories. 

umm. besides that I work in a mind decaying job as a 
data enterer. It's not quite as decadent as I had 
expected- I always thought there would be more than a 
handful of scantily clad nubiles, you know- the kinds 
of things you see in the classic films of data 
entry: "Nude Keyboard", and "Database Meltdown". oh 
well, such is my lot in life. 

Anyways...anyone interested in Virginial B&S get- 
togethers should feel free to missive me. And I like 
vinyl, so....well. yes. 

rightio. I hope to interact with you all; some in a 
business manner, others in the "i know you, but don't 
really KNOW you" manner, and the rest? well, you can 
all be my lovers of course. (i'm clean!)

for b&s content- I had a dream (on the list, this 
phrase is analogous to the invocation of the Muses in 
epic poetry) wherein I was sleeping under blankets made 
entirely out of the covers of the EP'S. disturbing, to 
say the very least. Usually I only have the banal- 
talking bananas and/or treasure chests. huh.


nice. wishing you all warm afternoons. (it's cold in 
here)


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From better_than_buffy at xxx.com  Mon Aug 14 14:57:23 2000
From: better_than_buffy at xxx.com (sp*rkle horse)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:57:23 GMT
Subject: Sinister: The evilness of reults
Message-ID: <F60Cl9FopYC98Bi89Qt000032a9@hotmail.com>


>Does anyone else have exam results looming?

unfortunately yes :(
my entire 'holiday' has been overshadowed by the results of my exams as they 
really do determine my fate, well, for the nest 3 years at least.
sometimes i just sob, sob...and sob some more because i feel so pathetic not 
knowing how i've done.
does anyone else go through the 'hmmm i may have done well enough to get to 
my first choice' to the 'oh hell, i really don't want to go to my insurance 
place' [which for me, i put as an incentive to work my ass off and get to my 
first place] to 'actually, at least i have  a bit of a say in clearing'? no? 
just me then :)

and for the few mins that you can escape the looming closeness of thursday 
you end up being dragged to town by your mother who bumps into 1, 2, 3, 4 
[some on i'm asian, she knows EVERYONE...really] et al of her friends and 
talks to them about how 'my daughter is really worried anout her results' 
and 'yes, i told her whatever will happen will happen' and the all time 
grate 'it's not the end of the world'...while you stand there trying to 
force a smile which just, isn't one.
well, sorry mother but it is the end of the world it really is.

and yes, i am putting it into perspective :)

honestly, i've never been so scared :(

so now, i'm going to go and throw myself into the sub-plot of a good iain 
banks novel which i'm not concentrating on reading at all, because thursday 
just sits there and waits and laughs...

>To think some examiner already knows my fate- ohno

indeed

sorry for ranting at you all

h xx

oooh and exciting news...my gentle waves badge has arrived and i am now 
displaying it on my t-shirt to taunts of 'who? what? eh?' arrrrr damn all 
becks/neds/bradies, why do they taunt me so.....?
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From paulinel_s at xxx.com  Mon Aug 14 15:55:22 2000
From: paulinel_s at xxx.com (Pauline L. Shivers)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 07:55:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: Gee, Baby, Ain't It Good For You? 
Message-ID: <20000814145523.9508.qmail@web6101.mail.yahoo.com>

Oh, hello sinister
What a disaster!! The whole weekend has been nothing
else but a sheer-turtle-disaster!
I told you we were going to have a family reunion at
the family's cottage. Well, we did! And it all went
worse than I could possibly imagine...
First of all, Big Aunt Myrtles invited to our family
reunion that disgusting macaroni dandy, the one she
wants to marry me off to! Yes! His name is Giovanni
Gregorio d'Arnazzio... Yes! And she invited him to the
family reunion! She thought it would be a good chance
for me to meet him! So, he arrived there on Saturday!
What can I say about him? he is very good-looking, the
way italians are, tall, thin, dark hair, with a nice
tan. he's 30 years old and God is he rich!
My dad loved him at once! But the poor fool, he'd do
anything to please Aunt Myrtles! You should have seen
him; the whole weekend he was just strolling about
auntie, trying to make himself agreable to her anyway
he could! Oh how much I despise him for that!
Me and Theodor (my cousin), were away when my "fiance"
arrived! We love to walk up the hill that is near the
cottage! There's a little river there and we love to
go swimming! So, we were racing each other down the
hill when we saw this fancy car entering our garden.
And then this really handsome bloke getting out of the
car... I heard Theodor sighing! I think I can tell you
that now; I strongly believe that Theodor is gay, but
a "in-the-closet" one! He never talked to me about it,
but I'm sure he's about to... poor Theodor!! And he
has to marry this blonde, washed off cow! And he
really did sigh when he saw Giovanni! This slimy
excuse for a man! I do hope Giovanni is gay so we can
keep him in the family, and aunt turtle will be happy,
and Theodor will be happy, and most of all, I will be
happy... And besides, I heard from my good friend
Althea, whose father owns the cottage next to ours,
that he's an awful lover! and not really "gifted" if
you know what I mean!!
So, family dinner... we all sat at this huge table,
aunt Myrtles on the head of it and my dad on the other
edge. I sat next to Theodor and Giovanni opposite to
me! He was looking at me all the time with his wet
eyes, that look like 2 olives thrown in olive oil!
And then that waiter started to serve us! I'd never
seen him before, he was one of the extras aunt Myrtle
hires sometimes for special occasions. Oh was he cute!
I couldn't take my eyes of him! And he wasn't
indifferent to me, mind you! Who would anyway?
Then I asked for permission to be excused, and as I
was getting up from my chair holding a glass full of
water, I accidentally bumbed onto the poor waiter! As
a result all the water fell on my white silk shirt!
Now you can imagine what happened! The waiter couldn't
take his eyes off my erm... wet shirt; aunt Myrtles
started to get red and stretched her neck in the most
disgusting manner I had ever seen!
What is this thing with me and commoners? I think
Theodor has it too, as I suspect that he's secretly
having this crush over auntie's gardener Arthur! He
walks around him everytime he's hoeing auntie's famous
rosetrees! 
But I shall stop now and come back with more
adventures from that disastrous weekend some other
time... Because I'm sure you'll all want to know how
Giovanni sneaked into my room and Theodor got caught
with Arthur in the stables! yes!! 
oh another thing! Honey, that luxurious little girl
that happens to be a princess too, so I'm allowed to
talk with her and be friends with her, said that
there's a sinister anniversary! 3 years of sinister!
and she suggested that on that day we should all wear
underwear that would have the same colour! I really
liked this idea! it could only come from a nobel mind!
What I suggest is that we all wear undies in red! And
I wonder, miss Honey, am I allowed to wear stockings
too or is it against the rules?

               Pauline L. Shivers
                 
that makes sinister all quivers
She's that aristocratic slag
Who lives and reigns in Prague

PS: Lucy made some anagrams with my name! 
> It occurred to me that Pauline L Shivers is one of 
> those names you could get a lot of anagrams out of. 
> Here are a few:
> Nashville Super I
> A Level Irish puns
> Punish Vera Ellis
> I slurp Helen Avis
> Hi puss, learn evil
I liked them all!! But I really loved the "I slurp
Helen Avis" and "Hi puss, learn evil" ones!! God!! I
can use them as my sign off!!! Or as a code with my
commoner lovers!! Thank you Lucy!!



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From CaMo81 at xxx.com  Mon Aug 14 16:16:14 2000
From: CaMo81 at xxx.com (CaMo81 at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:16:14 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian.....Stony?
Message-ID: <9b.9043305.26c9673e@aol.com>

    I was recently startled when my father (whom I admire and respect very 
much) and I were in the car listening to "Don't Leave the Light On, Baby."  
He said to me "This is so stony."  I hoped he didn't mean what I thought he 
meant, but he did.  I'd never associated B&S with weed usage.  My Dad claims 
that he likes B&S very much and that being stony was not necessarily a bad 
thing.  Has anyone else thought this? Has anyone ever gotten stoned to B&S? 
Am I just Naive? 

    Next: Bob Dylan

    Last night I watched the biography of Bob Dylan.  Needless to say I have 
much more respect for the man than I did before.  I never realized how truly 
revolutionary he was.  Jimi Hendrix is going to be on Wednesday night, I'll 
have to watch that one as well.

                                                            Ta for now,
                                                            Derek 
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From sosaidkay at xxx.com  Mon Aug 14 16:39:49 2000
From: sosaidkay at xxx.com (Matthew Stead)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:39:49 GMT
Subject: Sinister: under a canopy
Message-ID: <F88j53XaDFuXCpU6q5i0000d478@hotmail.com>

Hello Pretties,

Just a wee note to emphasise my thanks for Belle and Sebastian on this 
cloudy gloomy day.

1) Just heard Loneliness... Wow what a wicked song. I reckon its one of the 
best yet. I loved it as much as the Long Distance Runner book by Silitoe. 
And that's saying summat. They're GRATE!! Big stylee!

2) Pauline L Shivers story was brill. Oh how I laughed and laughed! I want 
to know more. pleeeeeease post to finish the story, I can't bear the 
suspence. Can I be your butler pleeeeeeease?!

3) Mucho Thanks to whoever recommended Catcher In the Rye. I stayed up till 
4:30 last night to finish it off. Weird ending but it kinda made me feel all 
special and not 'phony'! It was a welcome distraction to finishing off my 
dissertation. I'm soooo bored of writing about ducks...yes I said ducks! 
Don't ask!

4) Good luck to all the A'level lot. I hope you get brill grades and that 
you get to go on to do something special. Don't do a boring Geography degree 
like me. Do something special like art or music. I wish I had. Hey, go Study 
at Stow.

5) I want to move to America. Don't know why. I wanna live in NY for a 
while. I think I'm attracted to the cahnge, and being someone ickle and 
anonymous in a big city. Ahhh one day. If only I had a Visa and not six 
grand debt.

Anyways, that's the lot. T'was my secong post but I wont bore you with all 
that...except to say I'm called luvlymaffoo and I live in the Bristol. There 
we go. See ya peeps.

luvlymaffoo.xxx

"She was into S&M and bible studies. 'Not everyone's cup of tea' she would 
admit to me"

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From geishalass at xxx.com  Mon Aug 14 17:53:21 2000
From: geishalass at xxx.com (Red Geisha)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:53:21 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian.....Stony?
Message-ID: <F110gt7Kym75ZqMYvzR0000a4ea@hotmail.com>


Contrary to popular belief there do exist ppl who smoke and enjoy music that 
does not include Phish, the Black Crowes and the Grateful Dead. So, yes I'd 
have to posit that you are naive...or terribly sheltered.  Then again I live 
in Canada where pot-smoking is not frowned upon and may be legal quite 
soon...meaning potentially more B&S fans pot smoking. I wonder how much 
better the picnics would be....

Stoniest Regards, Chris

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>To: sinister at missprint.org
>Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian.....Stony?
>Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:16:14 EDT
>
>     I was recently startled when my father (whom I admire and respect very
>much) and I were in the car listening to "Don't Leave the Light On, Baby."
>He said to me "This is so stony."  I hoped he didn't mean what I thought he
>meant, but he did.  I'd never associated B&S with weed usage.  My Dad 
>claims
>that he likes B&S very much and that being stony was not necessarily a bad
>thing.  Has anyone else thought this? Has anyone ever gotten stoned to B&S?
>Am I just Naive?

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From andy_flynnie at xxx.com  Mon Aug 14 18:42:03 2000
From: andy_flynnie at xxx.com (Andy Flynn)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:42:03 BST
Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian.....Stony?
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Get stoned and shag to B&S!!  Its ace!!  Its how its best appreciated in my 
opinion.  Definitely Stoney as opposed to Moshy music!
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From ynoh at xxx.edu  Mon Aug 14 19:02:15 2000
From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:02:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinister: go tell it on the mountain
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.04.10008141202470.16887-100000@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu>


I just heard Poem of the River.  I'm stunned.  I didn't realize he could
sing that way after the coldness of the albums before it.  I see how the
comparison to Lloyd Cole in terms of singing style, which others have
made, too, is justified, but the difference is clear.  (They must have had
different ambitions.)  I didn't understand most of the lyrics; it's just
the sound of his voice.  

I ordered the Clientele ep but they accidentally sent the 7" (I want you)
more than ever instead.  Before, I thought CDs had good points in terms of
packaging - booklets that favor more writing, lyrics, anecdotes; the size 
actually makes simple sleeves look better - but this 7" is so pretty and
there's a warmth that doesn't come through when the sleeve is encased in a
plastic jewel case.  7-inches are the perfect size.  And there's also
something to be said for mystique.  

At first I was wary of the hype surrounding the Clientele, but I
listened to stuff on their web site, and the praise seems well-deserved.
They do sound different from B & S, less idiosyncratic.

I'm glad B & S is that way though.  Here is something in that vein (not
for whimsy but for strength of purpose) from Norman Blake:

"What I like about Belle and Sebastian is they like to do things
differently," he enthuses. "I've known Stuart Murdoch, who is the main
songwriter in the group, although they all sort of write, for years.
Stuart was into a band called the Pastels - the seminal Glasgow band
throughout the '80s and '90s - and basically was a member of their fan
club, which was called Pastelism, about five years ago. The fan club did a
fanzine and had conventions in Glasgow every two or three months, which
basically were a big party. "The first place I met Stuart was at one of
these Pastels conventions. And he would play songs - really quirky songs -
on this small keyboard thing." 

Here's a link to a potential Stuart Murdoch look-alike (I was only looking
because I thought the model in the Prada ads might be in it; you know the
one they have in the series, holding a glass of water, caught in
compromising situations, etc., but still that's an idle pursuit):
http://www.firstview.com/MENspring2000/PRADA/P018.html 

When I downloaded Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner, the end was cut
off.  Was it that way for others, as well?  I tried to download it again,
but the link no longer works.  Of course, I'm grateful to be able to
listen to it at all.

I've been reading stories by Flannery O'Connor lately.  She has the same
cast of characters, but tells a different story each time.  That's why I
didn't think that Stuart David's criticism that Stuart Murdoch was writing
the same songs over and over had much merit to it.  Billy Liar *is* good.
I started Billy Liar on the Moon but returned it to the library after a
couple of chapters: at that age, it becomes less interesting, or maybe
it's a different story.  Listening to a really good record (CD) is like
having a super bout of #1 thinking.  

Yours,
Youn

PS Sorry if this was boring.  You know how when you're bored you're
boring?  Does the singer on the 4th song of Comet Gain's Tigertown
Pictures say something like this?  I asked my former roommate to translate
for me, but he's not a native speaker, and he wasn't really clear.
Thanks.  (So actually I guess I would appreciate Poem of the River more if
my life were more exciting right now ... I know it's there though ...
maybe I bored myself writing this ... On the back of Poem of the River, it
says 'I will be the first person in history to die of boredom'; yet the
songs are anything but boring.)





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From Sebstian95 at xxx.com  Mon Aug 14 19:12:28 2000
From: Sebstian95 at xxx.com (Sebstian95 at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:12:28 EDT
Subject: Sinister:  NYC Supper Club
Message-ID: <200008141810.TAA22859@missprint.org>

Howdy pardners, this is Matt, the American from Mobile, Alabama (the a**hole of the world).

NYC CD:
Miles, I have the New York City double CD from the Supper Club.  The quality isn't very good unless you listen to it on headphones.  It's just really low, so you'll have to turn the volume up.  The shows (It's two shows from consecutive nights) are really good though.  Isobel is sick, but she still sings and someone does a very funky cartman impression and sings the "Kyle's Mom is a B****" if anyone knows what that is.  

Just thought I'd comment on that.  Well, me and my sister are off to out honeymoon now.  Have fun ya'll.


Note:  I am not really going to marry my sister.


-Matt

P.S.  I edited the language just in case someone gets offended.  
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From Sebstian95 at xxx.com  Mon Aug 14 19:12:25 2000
From: Sebstian95 at xxx.com (Sebstian95 at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:12:25 EDT
Subject: Sinister:  NYC Supper Club
Message-ID: <200008141810.TAA22860@missprint.org>

Howdy pardners, this is Matt, the American from Mobile, Alabama (the a**hole of the world).

NYC CD:
Miles, I have the New York City double CD from the Supper Club.  The quality isn't very good unless you listen to it on headphones.  It's just really low, so you'll have to turn the volume up.  The shows (It's two shows from consecutive nights) are really good though.  Isobel is sick, but she still sings and someone does a very funky cartman impression and sings the "Kyle's Mom is a B****" if anyone knows what that is.  

Just thought I'd comment on that.  Well, me and my sister are off to out honeymoon now.  Have fun ya'll.


Note:  I am not really going to marry my sister.


-Matt

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From pixidustlady at xxx.uk  Mon Aug 14 20:25:10 2000
From: pixidustlady at xxx.uk (the original pixidustlady)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:25:10 +0100
Subject: Sinister: aawww, did you miss me?
Message-ID: <001901c00625$a46df4c0$58ca28c3@pixidustlady>

hello folks,
read this earlier:

>PIXIDUST
>ain't she been stirring up some insurrections?  i'm
>not complaining, i love it!  but then she disappears.
>Is she an NME mole, sent in to destroy the fragile
>network of harmonious discontent?  or did they
>underestimate our powers?

ha! how i wish i did have a job at the NME.  but i wouldn't be their mole,
i'd be yours.  working night and day to bring steven wells to his knees, and
enlighten all 'the kids' with wondrous tales of B&S dreams and picnics and
cardies and midnight biscuit-dunking.
however, with my limited vocabulary - um, what's an insurrection? - i fear i
will never crack into journalism, with the possible exception of mad ranting
letters that will only get printed so that the editor can rubbish
them....sigh.

nevermind, i'll get them all with my novel

the reason i disappeared is utterly mundane, but soul-destroying at the same
time.
i'm working all summer to get some money together for uni you see.  i have a
full time job at the local council canteen.  my boss is insane and
intolerable.  he shouts at me and i cry.  i work 5, sometimes 6, days a
week, including saturdays.  i stand all day.  i get abused by mean customers
all day.  i slice and butter 200 bread rolls EVERY morning.  i get burnt by
steam, hot water and sparking fat.  the heat in the kitchen is so unbearable
at times that i think i might faint.  i have been working for 7 weeks now,
and in that time i have lost half a stone.  i was underweight before, but
now it's just ridiculous and i feel really rundown and tired all the time
because of it.  this hasn't exactly helped my mental health either.  i
haven't seen my boyfriend for 9 weeks.  i'm living at home again with my
parents.  my life is exactly the same as it was this time last year and i
feel like i've regressed totally, gone nowhere, done nothing.  it's so
demoralising.  i've lost all my confidence and become very stressed and
unable to cope.  i used to take anti-depressants, but i was really pleased
when i sorted myself out enough to come off them.  now i just feel hopeless
again, like i need to go back on medication.  it's really awful.
so, you see, i've not really had the energy or the mental capability to
write interesting posts, as this one testifies (sorry if you're bored).
i'm just lost in a monotonous drone of getting up, going to work, coming
home, eating, watching tv, sleeping.  it's all i've done for about a month
now.
UNTIL LAST SATURDAY NIGHT THAT IS !!!!!!!!!

12th august is a big day round these parts.  all the farmers get together to
show off their cows and sheep and give eachother prizes for the meanest
looking bull, or the fluffiest lamb or whatever.  other farmers come from
all over scotland to marvel at the wondrous cattle.  there are even dancing
tractors - has to be seen to be believed- and when the prize-giving is
finished, usually by noon cos all the farmers have been up since 5am,
everybody retires to the beer tent to start drinking.  the drinking
continues for about 12 hours, before everyone staggers to a different tent
to drunkenly attempt a dance. hahaha.  this dance is the high-point of the
Orkney social calendar.  EVERYBODY, and i really mean that, cos there aren't
that many people here, goes to this dance to get wasted and fight with other
farmers.  it is mind-boggling and sickening at the same time.
but this year me and my friends boycotted.  we went to the beach and had a
party there.  we took magic mushrooms and tripped out on the sand, next to
the seas, by a great roaring fire.  i had a mad mad trip, remembering all
these things from my childhood, stuff totally buried in my brain.  it was
really weird.  my brain was going so fast.
so now i feel better for having broken the monotony.
and this post is really really long.
love karen xxxxx
p.s. - it's pixidustlady, not just pixidust. ta
p.p.s. - congrats to amy jackson for your exam results, well done that
girl!!





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From kittenmouse at xxx.com  Mon Aug 14 21:29:10 2000
From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (Andrea Kittenmouse)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:29:10 PDT
Subject: Sinister: Richard Brautigan, other books; Ladyfest
Message-ID: <F13L0xJdQdSe9g4pXX50000070a@hotmail.com>

hello all,
i noticed that at least two people have mentioned the writer Richard 
Brautigan in the last week or so in Sinister town.  he is one of my absolute 
favorites, especially his collection of short stories, Revenge of the Lawn.  
has anyone read this?  what are your favorite stories from it?  one of mine 
from that book is called "Trick or Treating Down to the Sea in Ships" or 
something like that.  i also just read a memoir that one of his friends 
wrote called "Downstream from Trout Fishing in America"...it was pretty 
enlightening, especially since not much is written about Richard Brautigan, 
so I didn't know much about it.

so did anyone in Sinister attend Ladyfest in Olympia, Washington?  i went 
for the weekend and saw the Need, Mary Timony, and Glass Candy and the 
Shattered Theater.  i also went to a letterpress workshop which was really 
interesting.  i'd like to learn that.

there was another book that i read recently that reminded me of Belle and 
Sebastian...it's a british novel from the 1980's called Oranges Are Not the 
Only Fruit, or something like that.  the bbc made a movie of it too, which i 
rented from the video store.  both very interesting.  anyone read it/seen 
the movie?  what did you think?

anyway, got to get back to work.

yer pal,
andrea

p.s. my radio show, kittenmouse radio, doesn't have a website yet, but it 
does have a message board.  i think you can get it if you type kittenmouse 
radio into the search engine, google.com, or you can find it by going to 
insidetheweb.com and typing in kittenmouse.  there are playlists from my 
show there and you can talk about music or make requests or whatever.  
anyway, please post something. :)
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From kmhyde at xxx.edu  Mon Aug 14 22:12:53 2000
From: kmhyde at xxx.edu (kmhyde at xxx.edu)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 17:12:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinister: hmmm- i'm thinking andrei bolkonsky popular
Message-ID: <200008142112.RAA26691@webmail.wm.edu>


I just had a bit of a debate with my friends, and so 
i'll be an obnoxious pretent and post twice in the same 
day...

we were talking about how the fact that B&S are getting 
so popular (relatively) makes it seem like it's less 
special...and that even though we put up a concerted 
effort not to be elitist 'indie' kids, we still feel 
our collective ire rise when some 'goo goo dolls' 
devotee goes walking around talking about this great 
band they just discovered.

it's frustrating to see something you've liked for so 
long being treated as just another thing; and then 
feeling guilty for feeling frustrated. i'm not making 
sense am i? the endorphins and adrenaline from the 
debate are probably still having their way with my 
synapses.

okay- what i really wanted to ask was this- 
1) do you think they are getting REALLY popular, or am 
i just paranoid and primed to see it.
2) does anyone else feel like it's "your" music....[and 
i mean this in both the most figurative and childish 
sense.] and do you get sort of jealous when other 
people listen?

maybe it's just the combination of qualudes and alcohol 
talking. i dunno. I'm sure I'll hear it from the rest 
of you all "it's good that the band is getting success, 
and you shouldn't be so avaristic- you moron" 
supporters in the morning.

votre petit singe dans le fenestre avec le coq,

kevin
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From sgazzetti at xxx.com  Mon Aug 14 22:26:03 2000
From: sgazzetti at xxx.com (S. Gazzetti)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:26:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: B & S travelogue--tautologies and oxymorons
Message-ID: <20000814212603.13643.qmail@web3004.mail.yahoo.com>

My friend posed a riddle a few days before I hit the road. She asked me,
�Which Belle & Sebastian song contains a tautology (not sure I am using
that right) and which contains an oxymoron?� As it turns out, �tautology�
is one of those words I have to look up every time I see it, so I did,
just before setting out. It turns out that the reason I can never recall
its meaning is that there are two of them. First, it can mean use of
additional words with no corresponding increase in meaning (eg �widow
woman�). It can also mean a logical version of something similar, as in
�the candidate will either win or not.�

I figured that a long road trip with every B & S disc in heavy rotation
would be a perfect opportunity to solve these intriguing riddles. This
post is transcribed from notes scribbled all-but-illegibly on the back of
a coffee-stained car-repair receipt: �diagnose and repair as needed/right
front suspension is bent�� Sorry that it runs long, but there is nominal B
& S content and over a thousand miles of thinking of all of you.

I drive across Montana unshod. Mile 0: ease out of  Missoula (horrifically
smoky due to man-made �wild� fires burning approx 250,000 acres) with
Magnetic Fields and Brian Wilson as warm-up for Big Tautological Riddle
Project. After getting into rhythm of the road I begin chronologically
with �Tigermilk� at mile 60.
Mile 62: possible tautology spotted in first song(!): �boy�s EMPTY mind�?
Too easy. Must keep looking.
Turn off CD at mile 70, tune in National Public Radio for world/nat�l news
Mile 72: crap tuner loses NPR. Scan for other NPR signal but detect only
rotten music stations.
Mile 73: �Silly Love Songs� plays.
Mile 75 SLS ends. Continue scanning.
Mile 76 �Band on the Run� plays on DIFFERENT station. Are DJs colluding?
Back to B & S. �You�re just a baby, baby girl�? But that�s merely
redundancy.
Mile 96: tautology at discourse level detected in �Electronic
Renaissance.� �If you work for very much longer/You�ll be known as the boy
who�s always working.� Maybe. But it�s weak. Am struck by irony of  �my
wandering days are over,� as am just 112 miles into a trip of probably
several months and who knows how many miles. Center of so-called being is
the space between the gearshift lever and the parking brake. Yeah, the
parking brake. Also: could not �spooky witch� be considered vaguely
tautological? Not satisfied with this, I continue east.
Mile 122: lowering sun finally appears as pall of nauseating smoke thins
slightly. Temp in car approaches melting point of lead. NPR out of Butte
tunes in. Some filmmaker opines, �We tend to love our least successful
children the most�� Comforting, this, as am en route to parents� for
�visit� which may end only when/if ever find job.
Cross Continental Divide at 6,963 feet and mile 129. Now, if dump
bulk-purchased Mochaccino out window, it would eventually reach Atlantic.
Also at mile 129 I don�t love anyone. Though it occurs to me that it�s
been a long time since I saw my sister.
Mile 145: begin composing Laura Llew poem as eastern Montana degenerates
into the boring flatness I can expect for the next thousand miles. Put in
IYFS.
Mile 171: first real logical tautology detected  as cross headwaters of
the mighty Missouri to accompaniment of GMAFHID: �You could either be
successful or be us.� This strikes me as a dictionary definition of a
logical tautology, though I suppose it does depend a bit on the B & S
dictionary def of �successful.�
Mile 204: IYFS seemed really short.
Mile 226: Juggling liner notes, water jug, precious discs, and atlas,
realization about mileage/driving time miscalculation dawns-it will
practically BE dawn when I reach the campsite I�d planned for.
Mile 230: begin playing stupid mental math games, trying to calculate fuel
consumption/efficiency, driving/arrival times, how long a tank lasts (five
hours at 75 mph), and whether I can drive all night and find fuel in the
middle of the night in the middle of North Dakota. Also where I�ll be when
the B & S runs out.
Counting smoky mountain ranges. Have passed through Bitterroots,
Sapphires, Tobacco Roots, Absarokas, Beartooths, and air is still palpably
smoky.
Panic! Have left wallet in rest area at mile 52!
Panic ends: wallet found underneath liner notes for LLPJ EP.
Mile 252: note-taking getting harder. Curse Eisenhower for building such
excellent roads and killing rail travel. How productive I could be on a
train! In my rear view mirror, the sun is going down; this recalls a Pink
Floyd lyric, and with it memories of the Great Big Pink Floyd is Shite/Is
Not! Debate. The EPs fly past with no answers to my riddles.
Am suddenly gutted at mile 257, as  realize that the brilliant Laura Llew
poem composed in head is forgotten forever.
At mile 265 pass Lazy J motel, and think of Jane.
�TRUST JESUS� graffito at mile 270 induces musing on Great Big Theological
Debate of July and its polarizing effect on peculiarly deranged fanbase.
Gorgeous, nearly-full moon arising in lilac murk causes me to praise
putative deity. Really enjoying TBWTAS.
Mile 297: cross Yellowstone River with �Is it Wicked Not to Care?� Still
not a single oxymoron, though a few weak ones show up at end of �Summer
Wasting�: �Summer in winter/Winter is springtime�? Not very satisfying as
an answer to my riddle. My friend is much more clever than that. More
stupid math games as TBWTAS ends reveal that am maintaining avg. speed of
65 mph, despite numerous stops. Prior to last year, Montana had no
numerical speed limit (it was �safe and prudent at all times�). Almost run
out of fuel (am notorious for this) at mile 326.Mpg=27, even with horrible
roof carrier-caused turbulence whose racket almost drowns out �A Space Boy
Dream.� But if the answers are buried in there, I�m not going to hear them
on this stereo. At mile 346 vow to keep driving til out of Montana.
Mile 348: vow not to be too type-A about this whole trip.
Mile 353: Cross Yellowstone again. Can�t it make up its mind? Pop in �This
is Just a Modern Rock Song� EP. Worry that my car is breathing its last,
but it's just the smell of Billings.
Mile 357: take wrong branch and head for Wyoming. Curses,
atlas-consulting, and U-turn totally distract from combing tracks 2 & 3 on
EP for oxymorons/tautologies.
Mile 370: inserting FISHYCLAP nearly causes collision with young male elk.
Can see dim stars for first time in two smoky weeks-am exiting smoke zone
at last!
�Beyond the Sunrise� is very good with fullish moon illuminating Great
rolling Plains.
Refrain of �Don�t Leave the Light on Baby� seems admonishment about
ruining night vision by trying to read lyrics by dome light.
Mile 405: am VERY sticky. Wish could fall in Clyde to wash.
Mile 421: cross Bighorn River as last full-length LP ends. Was counting on
B & S to get me out of Montana!
Mile 436: �Legal Man� EP, and thus Belle & Sebastian, is done. Plough and
Orion both plain to see; not so answers to riddles.

If any of you out there are interested in helping to solve this vexing
problem, let�s talk about it. I have to admit that there were plenty of
songs whose lyrical nuances were obscured by roaring trucks, windy
conditions, atlas-looking, wool-gathering, logistical concerns engendered
by auto travel, etc. So if any of you lovely biscuit-nibblers can think of
better examples of tautologies and oxymorons than those I came up with on
I-90 and I-94, please at least let me know, if not the whole list.

I am posting this from somewhere in Minnesota. As the night turned to day,
I managed to re-compose the Laura Llew poem, which I committed to receipt,
and will send in My Second Post when I get to the east coast. Now I am off
to catch a ferry across Lake Michigan. Thanks to all of you for keeping me
company for my first 1,200 miles!

Schatz



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From sophiesea at xxx.com  Mon Aug 14 22:27:03 2000
From: sophiesea at xxx.com (sophie harris)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:27:03 GMT
Subject: Sinister: gardens in bloom
Message-ID: <LAW2-F278dI0iYgX4Mk0000808f@hotmail.com>


...i always think it's 'gardens in blue' when i hear it - i s'pose 'cause i 
imagine looking out of the window in half light, when flowers look all mary 
poppinsy - and think of gardens in blue bloom... hmmmm......
anywaysh, hello blossoms
i just had a little moment i wanted to (ahem) share coming back from 
swimming - i went after work which was lovely and energising (eew that 
sounds horrid), and then got the bus back, but had the most *amazing*, 
really wonderful walk home in the dark -
my walkman was in just the right place for lazy line pj, and i put it on, 
and just as it really shimmied in i realised the bass switchy thing wasn't 
on, and i did it, and the sound *oooooh*, and then flounced most of the way 
up the road 'cause noone could see me - and then in the 'maaazin spirally 
organ bit, i looked up at the sky and the *stars* were out, and i just felt 
totally exhilerated and moved... and the moon tonite (flintstones spelling) 
is so full and golden - is this a harvest moon? i feel if i knew this, as 
well as the recipe to apple butter (i *will* try it now), my life would be 
fuller somehow.
:) (sigh) - now if i could have the moon on a stick i'd like some more b&s 
collaboration type things...
well, i think now i'm going to unexcite myself a bit and have a cigarette to 
'you made me forget my dreams', and think of blue gadens in bloom like on 
the way home, and yes, was it olivia who mentioned mister stru's little 
laughing sigh at the beginning... mmmm.
tatty bye for now
and supportive squeezes of hands for those expecting results, you'll be 
fiiiiine :)

amore and breezy kisses
xs
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From JENOWL22 at xxx.com  Mon Aug 14 22:40:15 2000
From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 17:40:15 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Tents. Floral Tents
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Hewwo,

Mmm, my news for today is that I went camping with some friends. Last night. 
So can I tell you all about it, because lots happened?

I was one of the few bringing a tent, and I don't know how you work them, so 
it's not like I knew that I was supposed to bring tent pegs. But it turned 
out ok, because someone brought spares. And we made a fire, a bit away from 
the tents, on the other side of a barbed wire fence. So to get to it, you had 
to get your legs cut to ribbons. So we made a fire, and seeing as how 
everyone there except me was a pyromaniac, people tried to burn everything 
they could (including other people). And after that, alcohol was brought out 
and we became drunk. 

So then a boy called Hatham who is gay decided to not be gay any more and 
stick his tongue in my mouth instead. Which was icky. But then I ended up 
with a boy called sam, and he kept biting my mouth, and it ended up bleeding. 
And my tent leaked, and kept falling down, and it was all floral and bright, 
and PANTS. And somebody who was drunk wee-ed on it, and also jacked off on 
it. And I sang a lullabye for one of the boys, which got everyone in the 
singing mood, so we sang all sorts of stuff, really loudly. And we didn't 
want to get sleepy, so we all ended up taking loads of caffeine pills and 
getting really hyper. And after we'd lined our stomachs with caffeine pills 
(like what Beavis takes in Beavis and Butthead Do America, that makes him 
think he's Cornholio), we had a big search for a boy called richard's poo, so 
we could see if we could get him to eat it. Then we decided to have a 
barbeque thing. So I had loads of vegetarian sausages, and while they were 
cooking, one of the boys tried to put red hot tongs on one of the other boys 
nipples, so the other boy got scared and put the tongs in grass. Then someone 
else turned over all the food with them, and they got all muddy, so we had a 
food fight instead. I think someone ate raw meat too. And we burnt the field. 
A lot of it.

Then the next morning at about 6.00am , after I'd packed my stuff away, I 
hiked for an hour to civilisation. And a hot bath.

 
The other day, I bought a belle and seb, TV series t-shirt from avalanche. I 
love it to bits.


I'll go now, shall i?

Hugs,
Jen




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From edb213 at xxx.edu  Mon Aug 14 22:55:12 2000
From: edb213 at xxx.edu (Eric D Brasure)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 17:55:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinister: hmmm- i'm thinking andrei bolkonsky popular
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.21.0008141746060.15818-100000@is9.nyu.edu>

> okay- what i really wanted to ask was this- 
> 1) do you think they are getting REALLY popular, or am 
> i just paranoid and primed to see it.
> 2) does anyone else feel like it's "your" music....[and 
> i mean this in both the most figurative and childish 
> sense.] and do you get sort of jealous when other 
> people listen?

I just have to comment on this. really, I do. my comment is as follows:
speaking as someone who hides the b&s cds in any store I see them in
(blocking the little plastic sign that says "belle and sebastian", and
putting things like abba in front. this is probably a bit nuts and maybe 
even mean.), I would say that they're getting more
recognition, but not more popular. like, I was in my local best buy (and
for those of you don't know what one is, it's a overly large
electronics/music/appliance/computer/video game store that is actually
pretty scary) and in the "new rock" display, next to matchbox 20 or
something was "fold your hands". I mean.... why? just... why? still, no
one knows who they are, but for some reason there's more notice of
them. it's like there's some sort of campaign to get b&s more prominently
displayed.
wow, this was poorly written. oh well.

-eric

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From dewar at xxx.uk  Mon Aug 14 23:07:53 2000
From: dewar at xxx.uk (Dewar)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:07:53 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Marsupial Sinister fans
Message-ID: <00b001c0063c$1ba3d4e0$1138883e@oemcomputer>

Hi folks,
            On Friday I finished with my IT job, and today was my first day
off! Wow, at last I got to have summer holidays!! I celebrated by having a
pub lunch with a few friends, and then went for a paddle in the river Tay up
beside the unique
geological feldspar microdykes that we have up my area. The water was
fantastically warm. I think i prefer that to working.

**Kind of Important Bit (for me at least)***
Anyways, I don't normally write about myself, but I have quit my job to go
out and live and work in Australia / New Zealand for the next year. I leave
on 3rd September and arrive in Auckland, New Zealand in October, after a
wander around California. In December I reach Sydney, and propose to spend a
good amount of time there working.
Soooo, if anybody lives in Australia, especially Sydney I guess, or New
Zealand, (or even California) and would like to meet up with a Scottish B&S
fan then could you please let me know? It would be a great help to settle in
actually. Even if you could just give me pointers where to go for a night
out or whatever, that would be fine.

Rafe!

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From idleberry at xxx.com  Tue Aug 15 00:33:30 2000
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:33:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: career shopping
Message-ID: <20000814233330.23288.qmail@web611.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi hi hi,
well, here I sit in bournemouth looking for a little
help.
Any suggestions about what career an idleberry ought
to go into?
I am not entirely sure.

On the plus side, my virtual fortune cookie said that
the outlook was good. whatever that means.

And my starsign looks good too.
I'm libran by the way.

Even though I still don't have a job, and might have
to go home by next week, as funds are running low.

I suppose what I need to find is something to clear my
head and focus my thoughts onto.

I've been receiving a lot of e mails recently, from
random people who have been visiting my site.

They ask me to interpret dreams for them, which I have
done. Although I am not an experienced dream analyst,
I try my best with the books I have.
I don't know how much use I've been to these people,
its quite nice to have such interest.

I also wonder sometimes where people hear about my
site from. Okay, yes, its in a search engine or two,
but its quite mad to see that its not just my pals who
end up e mailing me about it!

I think also that dreams are a very individual thing.
And many people who have translated them come up with
all sorts of wierd and wonderful suggestions. I think
Freud's ideas about dreams were best, they were less
about predicting a future, as opposed to exploring the
human psyche.

I'm feeling sort of thoughtful today. Thinking a lot
about thingsa I'd rather not think about. I have so
many things to do, and to be honest, I cannot be
bothered.

I'm sort of in a dreamy mood as well. I like dreaming,
day dreaming mostly. And the annoying thing is, I
haven't gotten round to fulfilling my dreams. Plus, a
lot of it is generally hard work.

So anyway, if anyone wants to discuss dreams, then
feel free. You know where to contact me.

cheers
a dreamy idleberry






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From disquieting7 at xxx.com  Tue Aug 15 02:37:21 2000
From: disquieting7 at xxx.com (Jillian Locke)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:37:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: need/oranges ...
Message-ID: <20000815013721.10025.qmail@web310.mail.yahoo.com>

yes.. after months of being a lurking creep amongst
the cardigans of sinister, i have decided to post
because  of 'oranges are not the only fruit', 'the
need', and Brautigan appearing, miraculously, in the
same post...
i would agree that j. winterson, author of
'oranges...' is a fantastic writer.. my favorite of
hers would have to be 'written on the body'.  i was
trying to make a belle and sebastian connection to the
novel, but can only come up with my personal opinion
that belle and sebastian is genderless. now this, at
first, fits well with the theme of 'written' but
seeing as throughout the whole novel i was convinced
that the main character was a woman.. i guess this
nullifies any connection to belle and sebastian, or
gender removal, or lust or anything that both of these
entities contain. hmmm.. well onto the need.. i think
they are a fabulous band, and thats all i have to say
about them since ladyfest was not an option for me!
also in the list of things i think are fabulous are
the bizzare and hilarious short stories contained in
'everything you ever wanted to know about sex... but
were afraid to ask'. sheep.. transvestites.. yeah!
opinions anyone?
well .. i promise that my next post will not be as
short and erratic as this one has been.. i'm in a
skittish mood! 

jillian

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From RythSoul at xxx.com  Tue Aug 15 03:17:57 2000
From: RythSoul at xxx.com (RythSoul at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:17:57 EDT
Subject: Sinister: hmmm- i'm thinking andrei bolkonsky popular
Message-ID: <48.9973e4f.26ca0255@aol.com>

> okay- what i really wanted to ask was this- 
> 1) do you think they are getting REALLY popular, or am 
> i just paranoid and primed to see it.
> 2) does anyone else feel like it's "your" music....[and 
> i mean this in both the most figurative and childish 
> sense.] and do you get sort of jealous when other 
> people listen?

    Just yesterday a friend of mine who DESPISED B&S was telling me how he 
went into Best Buy to pick up IYFS but to his disappointment all they had was 
Fold Your Hands...I can't tell you how much this is irritating me. And I feel 
so ridiculous for it. I mean, I know I should be happy that we can finally 
listen to them together, but I just can't help remembering the days when he 
would beg and plead for me to turn it off and now he is out searching for 
them. And then, to top it all off, he's got his little friend listening to 
them now too. I can't help but feeling like my little world is being invaded. 
I can't believe how childish I am behaving, but I can't help it. Someone help 
me please!!!

On a different note, I just got back from summer camp and everything in the 
world looks a lot better then before I left. Now I know what you're 
thinking....summer camp! I know, I know, how stupid right? But it's not. I 
guess I should explain. It's not your average YMCA, go horseback riding, arts 
and crafts kind of camp. It's a cancer camp. Whoa...I'm reading this and 
slowly realizing that my explanation is not making it sound any more 
appealing. But really, it's the most amazing place in the world. I swear it 
is what heaven must be like, because not a moment goes by when I'm there that 
I don't feel love.  And what an inspiration! I never really realize how 
amazing my journey has been until I am surrounded with others who have shared 
my experiences. They are the most incredible people in the world. I'm sorry, 
I'm going on and on and I'm sure there probably isn't one person who is 
finding this interesting...but I am so elated and overjoyed with absolutely 
no way to release it and almost no one else to share it with. 
Well...I'll be on my way. 
Keep Smiling
LIssa
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From garymaher at xxx.com  Tue Aug 15 05:16:21 2000
From: garymaher at xxx.com (garymaher at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:16:21 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Richard Brautigan wrote better stories when he was alive (off topic)
Message-ID: <20000815.005328.-169247.5.garymaher@juno.com>

On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:23:50 +0100 (GMT/BST) Andrea Kittenmouse writes:
> i noticed that at least two people have mentioned the writer Richard 
> Brautigan in the last week or so in Sinister town.  he is one of my
absolute 
> favorites, especially his collection of short stories, Revenge of the
Lawn.  
> has anyone read this?  what are your favorite stories from it?  one of
mine 
> from that book is called "Trick or Treating Down to the Sea in Ships"
or 
> something like that.

Revenge of the Lawn is the one that does it for me, too!  It was
introduced to me by a high school English (meaning literature, mostly,
with a bit of grammar, as opposed to language -- have to translate for
the world audience) teacher, of all people, who presented us with A Need
for Gardens one day.  (The story is about recurring attempts to bury a
living lion in a too-small hole, much to the beast's consternation.)  So
was it this experience, at age 16, that warped me, or was I already
there?

Anyhoo, my favorites at one time (I know this because I marked them in my
book) are / were Homage to the San Francisco YMCA (about a man who
replaces all the plumbing in his house with poetry -- "I look great as a
kitchen sink," Emily Dickenson's poetry said); the aforementioned A Need
for Gardens; and The Post Offices of Eastern Oregon, which I won't try to
synopsize.

Then there's the wonderful Lint, which reads, in its entirety, as
follows:  "I'm haunted a little this evening by feelings that have no
vocabulary and events that should be explained in dimensions of lint
rather than words.  I've been examining half-scraps of my childhood. 
They are pieces of distant life that have no form or meaning.  They are
things that just happened like lint."

Just looked at "Trick or Treating Down to the Sea in Ships" for the first
time in a long time.  This man was brilliant!

{I'm sorry, this IS the graduate level literature forum, innit?}

gary

P.S.  Will I never get to the point and start rambling about my precious
B&S?
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From ELZober at xxx.com  Tue Aug 15 07:14:27 2000
From: ELZober at xxx.com (ELZober at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 02:14:27 EDT
Subject: Sinister: One For The Kids....
Message-ID: <68.6701c2d.26ca39c3@aol.com>

hello all in Sinister Land.....


i don't even know how to post this, because the comedy factor alone is 
practicaly killing me.....  i'm a cynical bitch me....

anyway - i was out shopping with "my girls" today.... the way American girls 
tend to... checking out the latest Britney Spears CD and what was new at 
Abercrombie and Fitch..... when i stopped into my old work to go pee..... you 
see, i'm fond of little children, so when i got my seasonal job at the Gap 
last year i chose to work at GapKids (note to international sinister - The 
Gap has three seperate stores in the US that handle Baby, Kids and Adult 
clothes seperately - most UK stores sell them all in the one main store... 
anyway - details..... )

and there was something eerie.... something odd... and then i realize that 
i'm listening to "You're A Baby" from Tigermilk...... 

the Gap may be short on tweeness, but they're long on overseas workers, 
cardies and twin sets.....

elle
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From Lorraine.Hosie at xxx.uk  Tue Aug 15 08:27:06 2000
From: Lorraine.Hosie at xxx.uk (Lorraine Hosie)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 08:27:06 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Nitpic in the Park
Message-ID: <F0EC21C5F871D41187B900805FCC276642E5D8@EXCHANGE-SERVER>

WAHHHH! Indeed.

The 27th is also Notting Hill Carnival Sunday!!

Last year I had to walk around the Imperial War Museum with my Dad; if I
don't go the the carnival this year, all my friends will say I am a big
girlie blouse and only going to a B&S picnic coz I can't hack the pace of
drinking 15 pints whilst wearing a giant chicken on my head.

I'm ruined!

Please reconsider thy foolish notion...?

Lorraine
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From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk  Tue Aug 15 10:52:39 2000
From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:52:39 +0100
Subject: Sinister: B & S travelogue--tautologies and oxymorons
Message-ID: <8025693C.0037D406.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk>



Schatz -

I'd say your friend isn't half as clever as you think and the oxymoron is
probably 'Summer in winter, winter in springtime' after all.

I'd also guess that the tautology s/he had in mind is one you missed.  When it
comes to tautologies, there's a fine line between stupid and clever, but I
reckon We Rule the School's "Written for anyone to read, and to see" is firmly
in the 'stupid' camp .  I think someone else said as much a while ago.  I mean
of course they can bloody see it if they can read it.  Unless it was *carved*
into the bus stop with some kind of really sharp implement and could be read
with one's fingers, but I don't think that's very likely at all.

IncidentalIy, I wouldn't say 'You could either be successful or be us' is
strictly speaking a tautology, because taken alone, 'us' isn't necessarily
unsuccessful.  The line is indirectly imparting the information that they are
not successful.  Even if the line were "you could either be successful or be
unsuccessful", one could argue that it wasn't tautological, because it would be
offering two alternative life paths, rather than simply making a meaningless
prediction of the 'Well, Exeter will either win or lose this match' variety.

> we had a big search for a boy called richard's poo

Bet he gets bullied.  Oh, I see - he does.

> So then a boy called Hatham who is gay decided to not be gay
> any more and stick his tongue in my mouth instead.

Please can this be the new footer, honey?

N. x


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From ynoh at xxx.edu  Tue Aug 15 13:36:59 2000
From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 08:36:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinister: B & S travelogue--tautologies and oxymorons
In-Reply-To: <8025693C.0037D406.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.04.10008150643570.4807-100000@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu>


On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 Nick.Dastoor at guardian.co.uk wrote:

> I'd say your friend isn't half as clever as you think and the oxymoron is
> probably 'Summer in winter, winter in springtime' after all.
> 
Here's another oxymoron that might be more interesting:

"I am a lazy gett, she is as pure as the cold driven snow"

but it depends on an interpretation of 'driven' as driven through, or
maybe driven away, as an outcast?  This is iffy and probably has to do
with my original mishearing of 'cold' as 'coal', i.e. perfect snow that
has been blackened by human traffic.  A point in my favor: snow is such a
cliched image for purity, he must have meant to use it in a new way.
Otherwise, what does 'driven' have to do with purity, unless it's purity
of the repressed or frigid sort, not innocence.
  
> IncidentalIy, I wouldn't say 'You could either be successful or be us'
> is strictly speaking a tautology, because taken alone, 'us' isn't
> necessarily unsuccessful.  The line is indirectly imparting the
> information that they are not successful.  Even if the line were "you
> could either be successful or be unsuccessful", one could argue that
> it wasn't tautological, because it would be offering two alternative
> life paths, rather than simply making a meaningless prediction of the
> 'Well, Exeter will either win or lose this match' variety.

But aren't tautologies supposed to be literally tautological?  Then it's
contingent on either interpretation of 'or'.  But this isn't taking
into account the meaning of 'could'.  It's a tautology with a wide scope
reading for the modal, which is justified because 'either' follows it,
unless you don't believe it's possible for anyone to be successful.  And
say that we mean something is possible if it is at all possible.

Anyway, how about this?

She didn't recognize my face
She didn't even looking at me

So for some reason, I get the feeling he meant to insinuate that she was
lying.




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From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk  Tue Aug 15 14:05:52 2000
From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:05:52 +0100
Subject: Sinister: B & S travelogue--tautologies and oxymorons
Message-ID: <8025693C.0049845E.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk>



I knew we could coax a top linguistics student into this:


> Here's another oxymoron that might be more interesting:
>
> "I am a lazy gett, she is as pure as the cold driven snow"
>
>but it depends on an interpretation of 'driven' as driven through, or
>maybe driven away, as an outcast?  This is iffy and probably has to do
>with my original mishearing of 'cold' as 'coal', i.e. perfect snow that
>has been blackened by human traffic.  A point in my favor: snow is such a
>cliched image for purity, he must have meant to use it in a new way.
>Otherwise, what does 'driven' have to do with purity, unless it's purity
>of the repressed or frigid sort, not innocence.

I don't see what you mean here, Youn.  Isn't 'cold driven snow' just a stock
phrase? It might sound odd, but I'm pretty sure lots of people use it.  It's
kind of poetic, as cliches go.  I always assumed it meant 'driven' in the sense
of a blizzard that 'drives' down hard.  But I have to say I was never quite
sure.

>But aren't tautologies supposed to be literally tautological?  Then it's
>contingent on either interpretation of 'or'.  But this isn't taking
>into account the meaning of 'could'.  It's a tautology with a wide scope
>reading for the modal, which is justified because 'either' follows it,
>unless you don't believe it's possible for anyone to be successful.  And
>say that we mean something is possible if it is at all possible.

Oh dear, I give up.  Would anyone with a a higher IQ than me like to join the
fray?

Incidentally, I am aware that this thread might strike some of you as wanky in
the extreme.  You may be right and you may be wrong.

Even more incidentally, my Exeter City tautology wasn't very good because they
could always draw.  Unless it was a cup match.  Yes, that's what I meant all
along.

So incidentally it hurts, the other day I was watching the Simpsons and found
Homer talking about monkey butlers.  Might this be the root of the gnomic
reference on back of the new album?  Or have I just led a sheltered life and
everyone else is talking about monkey butlers all the time?


N. xx


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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Tue Aug 15 14:56:23 2000
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:56:23 +0200
Subject: Sinister: An Old Rodcoat Won't Let You Down
Message-ID: <002101c006c0$b6d3df80$d385243e@itjfvkli>

First of all, thanks to the breathtakingly beautiful Annabel for gently
cooing such nice things about Sister Disco. Did you know that Annabel lives
near to Europe's premiere emu farm? It's true. They (emus) are virtually fat
free. I saw it on the news.

PF, I've got two Rod Stewart albums, "Never a Dull Moment" (1972) and "Every
Picture Tells a Story" (1971). Both are BLUDDY GRATE. "Dull" features what I
suspect is the definitive version of "I'd Rather Go Blind", one of the best
songs ever written, while "Picture" features a version of "(I Know) I'm
Losing You" that gives The Temptations a run for their mummy. Combined with
Rod originals like "You Wear It Well" and "Maggie May", both albums
represent excellent value for money. Of course, some people prefer The
Magnetic Fields, but that's because they're MENTALLY DEFECTIVE or deaf. How
I loathe and detest the Magnetic Fields! And I've never even heard them. The
other day I saw a video of Don McLean doing his starry starry night hit
"Vincent" and the audience was full of terribly serious lank-haired lovelies
listening to his every word and gazing at him intently. It reminded me of
you lot watching the Magnetic Fields. Mungo Jerry were on too, and Slade.
They reminded me of Adrian Evans trying to think up baby names. Adrian, have
you considered Rod? It would be a nice tribute.

Poor Richard Brautigan. From lank-haired lovelies to drink and despair.

Mute Records - is this some kind of money laundering operation?

I like Bournemouth very much. There used to be some kind of indie (Wonder
Stuff) club near the station. Bournemouth has acres and acres of beautiful
parks. The fans screaming on the Byrds' "So You Want To Be A Rock'n'Roll
Star?" were recorded in Bournemouth. Fact. I was hoping for something like
this when we heard about that B&S party being recorded.

No I wasn't, I've only just thought of it.

Peter

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From kmhyde at xxx.edu  Tue Aug 15 15:01:19 2000
From: kmhyde at xxx.edu (kmhyde at xxx.edu)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:01:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinister: don't hit me plaese. tautologies are mean
Message-ID: <200008151401.KAA03836@webmail.wm.edu>



> > Here's another oxymoron that might be more 
interesting:
> >
> > "I am a lazy gett, she is as pure as the cold 
driven snow"
> >
> >but it depends on an interpretation of 'driven' as 
driven through, or
> >maybe driven away, as an outcast?  This is iffy and 
probably has to do
> >with my original mishearing of 'cold' as 'coal', 
i.e. perfect snow that
> >has been blackened by human traffic.  A point in my 
favor: snow is suc> h a
> >cliched image for purity, he must have meant to use 
it in a new way.
> >Otherwise, what does 'driven' have to do with 
purity, unless it's purity
> >of the repressed or frigid sort, not innocence.
>
> I don't see what you mean here, Youn.  Isn't 'cold 
driven snow' just a st> ock
> phrase? It might sound odd, but I'm pretty sure lots 
of people use it.  I> t's
> kind of poetic, as cliches go.  I always assumed it 
meant 'driven' in the>  sense
> of a blizzard that 'drives' down hard.  But I have to 
say I was never qui> te
> sure.

yeah, that's what it means- blizzard of snow that's 
fiercely packed down. it sounded like an old phrase, so 
i called my eighty year old grandfather, and he assured 
me that it's an old phrase, and it means like, when the 
snow is all in drifts and such because there's so much.

yikes, that was an awkward call. "yeah, grandpa...no, 
nobody i know in real life...yes, on the computer...no 
I still like girls."



>
> >But aren't tautologies supposed to be literally 
tautological?  Then it> 's
> >contingent on either interpretation of 'or'.  But 
this isn't taking
> >into account the meaning of 'could'.  It's a 
tautology with a wide sco> pe
> >reading for the modal, which is justified 
because 'either' follows it,
> >unless you don't believe it's possible for anyone to 
be successful.  A> nd
> >say that we mean something is possible if it is at 
all possible.
>


Okay, we can settle this with a little symbolic logic. 
(that, by the way, is an ace thing to say in bed. try 
it, and watch the ladies' faces pop into a rictus of 
terror)
in logic, tautologies are true under every 
interpretation. that means it must be true no matter 
what *individual* truth values are assigned to the 
atomic sentences of 'you are us' and 'you are 
successful'. Stuart seems to be using this in 
the "exclusive" sense, in that he seems to be saying
"you could be successful, or be us, but you can't be 
successful AND be us." or in symbols- where U is (you 
could be us) and S is (you could be successful) 
SvU * (~[U*S]). So, when both S and U are assigned the 
truth value of "true", it comes out as false. so, it's 
not a tautology.

okay, for that all, I deserve to be hit, I know.

I would go into the modal logic and Wittgensteinian 
language games that would blow all this away, but that 
would require a special program, and even then, I would 
hate myself for posting it. to say nothing of all those 
people who are saying "what the...an asterisk?". i'm 
sorry.hopefully this ends the thread. if we're lucky..


keep watching the lyric sheets! (oxymoron- the reality 
of the dream- space boy dream)


kevin

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From tourajsig2 at xxx.com  Tue Aug 15 15:50:15 2000
From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Jones?=)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 07:50:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: Taut and Tame, Wax and Wane
Message-ID: <20000815145015.24451.qmail@web112.yahoomail.com>

Trinies,

I hardly ever dare to question Cardinal Dastoor on interpretation of
scripture, but on this occasion I shall risk the rack... 

> I
> reckon We Rule the School's "Written for anyone to read, and to
> see" is firmly
> in the 'stupid' camp .  I think someone else said as much a while
> ago.  I mean
> of course they can bloody see it if they can read it.

My feeling here is that SM means "to see" in the (possibly Biblical)
sense of "to understand".  

Mr Mikklesen said:
> I'm sure a lot of listees know
> the feeling - you're skilled and desperate to work, but because you
> don't have "industry experience" (whatever the hell that means) no 
> one will look at you. I have had so many interviews this year, and
> have come so close so
> many times, always to get knocked back because some "with more 
> experience" happens to turn up. 

Which sounds like a description of my entire 1992.  Be grateful for
small mercies - back in those days we only had Drop Nineteens and a
countryfied Moose to sustain us.  Are you sick of people telling you
that "something will turn up" yet?  The thing is - it does.

> I mean, short of whoring myself for crack, how do I get
> that exprience???

Er, here we differ.  I wasn't actually applying for any jobs where
previous experience of crack-whoring was considered an advantage. 
Which is a shame, because I'd have been in like Flynn.

Back to the mild-irritation pebble...

(Mvi) * (~kve)

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From gpallis at xxx.uk  Tue Aug 15 16:45:37 2000
From: gpallis at xxx.uk (Greg Pallis)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:45:37 +0100
Subject: Sinister: is new and exciting an' stuff!
Message-ID: <004b01c006cf$dc80cf40$4c3229d4@default>

Hmmm. That title won't work for people who get the digest. And I don't doubt
literarily squillions of people have used it before. However, I'm but a poor
wikkle list-noobie who overuses the word "wuv", so don't throw too many
sharp objects at me, mmkay?

Could the tautology be "Queen's own army" from Me and the Major? That's
pretty much exactly the same as "Queen's army". I suspect not, as otherwise
all ye smartnessbunnies would have picked up on it. But anyways. That was
actually the main reason I broke I broke my list lurkerdom, so I'm going to
have to babble some more here so that this post doesn't look all titchy and
pathetic and get beaten up by big long posts about linguistics and
Wittgenstein.

I'm tempted not to introduce myself, so you can all think I'm some
mysterious and impeccably cool man-with-no-name-type figure. However, I've
just horrendously burnt the pizza I was meant to be cooking, which seems a
terribly bad omen. So I'll tell you all about me, so that when I'm kidnapped
by the bad pizza demons, you can all get togethor with some Powerpuff Girls'
fans and form the Superhero team "Sinister Dexter" to rescue. Sorry. Sorry.
Please, please forgive me. That was truly unspeakably bad. I think go I'll
die in a hole now. Bleh. Soooo, moving on from such appaling comic-pun
shenanigans, me! Yeah! Right. Well, I'm 16 years old, and 17 this coming
Friday. I'm waiting for my GCSEs with roughly the same amount of desperate,
gibbering terror as almost everyone else my age in the country. I just burnt
an ungarnished cheese and tomato pizza really, really badly. It asked for
twelve minutes, and I gave it, like, 35. I look somewhat like a younger
version of the mid-period Elvis with my current haircut, though perversely
very little like the young Elvis. My eyes are blue, green or brown depending
on my mood. No, really. Yes, like in some anime. Except my hair doesn't
change colour too. Which is a pity. I own a considerable number of tarot
decks, from which I can do reading with varying amounts of skill. My
undoubted fave is a deck from UK teenybopper magazine Just-17, which
intrigues and terrifies me in equal measure. One of the cards is called "The
Steps CD". This may or may not equate to the ten of swords - "ruin". What
else? I live in London. I played the horrendously addictive internet game
sissyfight (www.sissyfight.com), in which you represent a bitchy
four-year-old, and have to humiliate other bitchy four-year-olds by
scratching them and teasing them and licking lollipops to rise up the
rankings, for about four months solid once, and nearly got suspended from my
none-more-posh school for falling asleep all the time after playing all
night, every night. They kept giving me urine tests for drugs, and looking
baffled when I passed. That's not particually relevant to anything, really.
I'm about a 7, tweeness-wise, though that's my own biased view and not be
trusted. I've missed the last four track-and-fields, the last seven nights
at Trash and I'm going to have to miss the Sinister picnic... various
complicated real-lifey stuff. Glurk. I should stop this relentless tirade of
vanity now, for this pizza is getting cold and thus even less appetizing,
and my mother has a habit of going into my room and throwing away random
things as punishment if she comes back from work to find uneaten food. It's
a vestige from a best-forgotten anorexic manicsboy phase a few years ago. I
fucking hate the Manics.

Finally - some questions for you happy Sinister ministrels to answer:
1) Whatever happened to "fluffy candarel"?
2) Did anyone else always think the narrator of 'Belle lettres' was female?
3) How GRATE is Infinite Jest?

And that's a wrap, popkids. Mourn Sunset Beach well.

I flee now.
-v-v-v-v-
Greg
"Mmm... good taco" - Johnny the Homicidal Maniac.

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From ynoh at xxx.edu  Tue Aug 15 17:10:28 2000
From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:10:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinister: don't hit me plaese. tautologies are mean
In-Reply-To: <200008151401.KAA03836@webmail.wm.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.04.10008151056470.8570-100000@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu>

On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 kmhyde at wm.edu wrote:

> yeah, that's what it means- blizzard of snow that's 
> fiercely packed down. it sounded like an old phrase, so 
> i called my eighty year old grandfather, and he assured 
> me that it's an old phrase, and it means like, when the 
> snow is all in drifts and such because there's so much.
> 
> yikes, that was an awkward call. "yeah, grandpa...no, 
> nobody i know in real life...yes, on the computer...no 
> I still like girls."

Thanks, Kevin.  A grandfather's opinion is very important, and you were
very brave to risk it. Both of you were right, of course.  Here are a
few hits from google:

"Pure as the Driven Snow A Working Girl's Secret by Paul Loomis"

"...Nuclear Sewage Water Pure as Driven Snow A New Technology Makes..."

"Pure as the driven snow...yeah, sure."

"Pure as the driven snow: study dispels myth about street heroin" 

Yeah, they were chosen selectively.  But am I the only one who thinks the
expression is used ambiguously in the song?

> Okay, we can settle this with a little symbolic logic. 
> (that, by the way, is an ace thing to say in bed. try 
> it, and watch the ladies' faces pop into a rictus of 
> terror)
> in logic, tautologies are true under every 
> interpretation. that means it must be true no matter 
> what *individual* truth values are assigned to the 
> atomic sentences of 'you are us' and 'you are 
> successful'. Stuart seems to be using this in 
> the "exclusive" sense, in that he seems to be saying
> "you could be successful, or be us, but you can't be 
> successful AND be us." or in symbols- where U is (you 
> could be us) and S is (you could be successful) 
> SvU * (~[U*S]). So, when both S and U are assigned the 
> truth value of "true", it comes out as false. so, it's 
> not a tautology.

Exclusive and inclusive readings apply to 'or', not to the definition of a
tautology.  I agree that it seems that the exclusive reading is meant, but
I think that is evident, without taking speaker intentions into account,
from the use of either/or.  A contingent statement is neither a tautology
nor a contradiction, so we're basically saying the same thing.
 
> I would go into the modal logic 

All I meant is that if you believe that it is possible for anyone to be
successful, then the statement "you could be successful" is a tautology.
There is no need to work this out in propositional logic because it is
intuitively obvious. 
(What I said in my previous email implied that the scope of 'could'
relative to 'or' matters, but it doesn't because the following statements
are true in the same situations:  "it is possible for you to be successful
or it is possible for you to be us"; "it is possible for you either to be
successful or to be us".)

I'm not so sure anymore if tautologies depend on literal interpretations
though I can't think of any non-literal ones.  If not, then what Nick was
pointing out, why the statement might thought to be a tautology but isn't
one, has merit and at least greater audience appeal then the stuff above.
A common form for tautologies is p or not p, but natural language doesn't
follow the law of the excluded middle, i.e. you can be neither successful
nor unsuccessful - just middling.

I know that Kevin wanted the thread to end, but everyone wants to have the
last say.  And these things are exciting to me.

I decided to keep my Clientele cd.  I'll be able to hear it in a week.
Then I've got to find the one featuring a duet with Pam Berry.  Would
Steady (Mvi) * (~kve) happen to know if it's going to be on the upcoming
album?  (This question will never get answered down here.)

Yours,
Youn


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From Mark at xxx.com  Tue Aug 15 17:14:58 2000
From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:14:58 +0100
Subject: Sinister: 3, 5, 7, 9 seconds of light
Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22011D2FF8@SERVER1>

Fellow matadors,

Massive great tension headache (after 10 days solid coffee, food and bouze,
don't limit yourselves straight away to peaches, bran and a chickpea and
black-eyed bean curry, kids) is preventing me from working at the moment, so
I'm starting my back-in-England sinister letter to you all. Phew! (who is
Ric Flair, then?) I still have three digests to read, but unless I forget
I'll get through them all before pressing send.

Amy, I'm tallish, mousey and what people politely term "thinning on top".
Unless they're Tim Hopkins, in which case "hopeless bald cunt" is more
likely. I am loaded, though, you were right on that one, after making 300%
on my stake at Venice Casino last week. I am rock! Roulette is classy,
though there's something to be said for incomprehensible machines paying out
dozens and dozens of coins even though you can't work out why on earth
you've won. I even arrived home to find a cheque from Bananalotto
(www.bananalotto.co.uk) <http://www.bananalotto.co.uk)> . Anyway, I'm not
going back in a casino ever again, as that's my luck used up. Though if Ooon
is ever stuck for something to do in SW London, I could be tempted to show
her how the experts *really* do it.

Magnetic Fields - another massive sinister posse for the Shepherd's Bush
Empire, then? I'm afraid I have to disagree with my learned friend who
suggested 69 Love Songs was the weediest LP yet - I have studied at the
Michael Jones Night School of Indie (Intermediate level), and apart from a
couple of astonishing slices of naïf-pop like 100,000 Fireflies, Mr
Merritt's oeuvre has got far stronger and more interesting in recent years.
In any case, they were the fuckin' nail at the QEH, so I suggest you all get
off your pampered, over-upholstered indie arses and get your tickets sorted
pronto.

I have The Sims. Naturally, my families are Belle and Sebastian. Isobel has
fallen in love with Beanz (sic). Though they haven't shagged yet. I even got
the patch that takes away the fuzzing when they're nude. It's not at all
like Big Brother. But I didn't realise you could add your own MP3s!
Fantastic stuff! 

I have also just ordered "International Cricket Captain 2000" over the
interweb. Does this make me the saddest sinisterine? Kevin's post (honestly,
it has no connection to being sad) was chuffin' tops, mate - nice to see
some solid scientific reasoning on the list, compared to the subjective,
judgmental waffle we usually put up with :-)

Nik, you're dead right about the News of the World and their culpable
homicide (or whatever our judicial system calls it). Apart from frightening
nazi-esque resonances, the sight of these ignorant, bullying FASCIST scum
baying for blood and abusing their own children's innocence (let's seem them
work out that moral quandary, then) by using them as flagpoles for their own
vicious bigoted agendae. By definition, these sex offenders, irredeemable
though some may be, have done their time, and the law says that they should
be allowed to continue their everyday lives without fear or prejudice.. 

But perhaps I'm being fascistic myself, denying freedom of the press? Nah.

See you kids at whatever picnic wins the battle of the picnics,
BG Mark xxx

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From pinefox at xxx.com  Tue Aug 15 19:01:42 2000
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 18:01:42 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Rod and Chips
Message-ID: <LAW-F598tP9DLf4bg5X00000aec@hotmail.com>



bref, as they say in Lower Volta. I fear this will reach incompletion, and 
be cut off suddenly past its prime. There are questions to answer, you know, 
and they won't just answer themselves.


Casarotto bleeped:
>>>
I have The Sims. Naturally, my families are Belle and Sebastian. Isobel has
fallen in love with Beanz (sic). Though they haven't shagged yet. I even got
the patch that takes away the fuzzing when they're nude. It's not at all
like Big Brother. But I didn't realise you could add your own MP3s!
Fantastic stuff!

What the helmans are you on about this time, MC? You have totally gone and 
lost me.


Steady Mike stoned:
>>>Which sounds like a description of my entire 1992. Be grateful for
small mercies - back in those days we only had Drop Nineteens and a
countryfied Moose to sustain us. Are you sick of people telling you
that "something will turn up" yet? The thing is - it does.

It does - and you know what? Goals can change a game.

I could have sworn that you had the Mary Chain's 'Almost Gold' 45 as well. 
That makes three average early-90s indie records, not the paltry two  that 
you claim - so things weren't *so* bad.

Can anyone remember anything re. Drop Nineteens? I wish I could.


Peter Miller pRodded:
>>>

PF, I've got two Rod Stewart albums, "Never a Dull Moment" (1972) and "Every
Picture Tells a Story" (1971). Both are BLUDDY GRATE. "Dull" features what I
suspect is the definitive version of "I'd Rather Go Blind", one of the best
songs ever written, while "Picture" features a version of "(I Know) I'm
Losing You" that gives The Temptations a run for their mummy. Combined with
Rod originals like "You Wear It Well" and "Maggie May", both albums
represent excellent value for money.

Let's get this straight - I know this. Another way of saying that would be: 
I agree. You are absolutely right. You could have gone into more detail re. 
certain moments of genius like 'Every Picture' (the title track) or 
'Mandolin Wind' - but that can wait. We are in (an) accord. My original 
point was, were there any Rods *apart from* these, Gasoline Alley and 
Raincoat that were essential? And Mooro had some daring answers which I'm 
still trying to decipher.


Finally, Youn used language to say:

>>>>I decided to keep my Clientele cd. I'll be able to hear it in a week. 
>>>>Then I've got to find the one featuring a duet with Pam Berry. Would 
>>>>Steady (Mvi) * (~kve) happen to know if it's going to be on the upcoming 
>>>>album? (This question will never get answered down here.)

It will be featured on the downgoing album. It will be a good record with 
Pamela Berry on it - which is the last definition of a tautology that anyone 
needs round here. But look, if you're looking for great new records 
featuring Pamela Berry you should listen t
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From matsu at xxx.net  Tue Aug 15 22:11:47 2000
From: matsu at xxx.net (Lila Matsumoto)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:11:47 -0700
Subject: Sinister: train thoughts
Message-ID: <001701c006fd$7ea4dc80$0101a8c0@pavilion>

Hello people with confidence,
This is my first post.  I had to say that, because it seems to be some rite
of passage.  And I couldn't have slipped through the cracks, could I?
Someone was bound to find me and label me a fraud.
And I must say that everyone seems to know what they are doing, like those
people on busy streets who don't look left and right twice like I do.
I live in Florida, amidst the humidity and falling coconuts.  Anyone else in
Florida?  Someone once said that they would like to live in America.  And I
think:  Are you out of your mind?  Maybe in New York, with its subway
system, or somewhere else, but definetly not Florida.  Every time I go to
England I wish I lived there, but maybe this is a naive thought.  So I would
like to ask..  would you like to move to America?  And if yes, why?
I am infatuated with trains.  For some they are dingy but for me they are
wonderful.. .  I have only been on three systems, New York, Tokyo, and
London.  Admittedly some are shitty in smell and appearence but I love
riding trains, and feeling responsible and cool, listening the best of B+S.
I try not to make eye contact with the passengers, but I do stare at them
when they're not looking, and make mental notes about their dress and make
stories about their lives. I know I'm not alone.
My favorite band of the week.. Cornelius.  What a cool guy.  Horrible
haircut, however.

A list
#2 songs on B+S cds, excluding singles, in order from best
1.  Seeing Other People
2.  The Model
3.  Expectations
4.  Sleep the Clock Around

I love them all, the #2s.  For me #2 songs are significant in that they must
try to overshine the first songs on the albums.  I think numbers 3 and 4 on
my list succeed in doing that.
Thanks for listening to my palling incessant chatter.  You can go now,  to
do better things.

Lila

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I was the only one in the world humming a song
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Date: 15 Aug 2000 17:30:10 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Re: Train Thoughts
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From ourpeppermintscene at xxx.com  Wed Aug 16 00:43:07 2000
From: ourpeppermintscene at xxx.com (keith mclachlan)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:43:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: griddle
Message-ID: <20000815234307.14416.qmail@web2304.mail.yahoo.com>

someone said, i think it was lawrence, that all of the
flying nun bands from the 80s should be remembered and
of course he is right.  i remember not too long ago me
flying approximately 3 light years down to nz and
taking in the 15th anniversary nunfest and now look
what has happened to them.  so sad.  if only goblin
mix had reformed for me.  i did get to throw up on
some fraser guy from the holmes show, not because i
had partied but cause being the sissy i am i couldn't
handle the croissants on ansett.  
lawrence also mentioned graeme downes, could there be
a more underappreciated genius on this planet?  likely
not, each and every verlaines record, counting even
the ones post-literary references, is brilliant,
truly.  but his look needs amending, the todd rundgren
coif and hat are pretty shaky.  

someone said they were shocked that their dad called
b&s stony, i was expecting the rest of the story to be
their dad was next going to admit he was stony as
well, ah but thank goodness that didn't happen.  then
someone chimed in in a condescending tone mentioning
he smoked and thus was enlightened by this and by
being a b&s fan.

the weather man just used the phrase 'cold front'
gasp!!!!!  52 days over 90, and a new football stadium
that is swallowing the city.

i like the baxendale album, but then i am american so
i have no idea what irony is.  

when every reviewer says 'the model' is stuart murdoch
treading on the same ground which song do they mean it
sounds like?  i can't find any soundalikes.

someone said they hide belle and sebastian cds in each
record store they visit, thank goodness all of the
fans who arrived before you didn't do this eh?  

a long time ago someone said they wantd to be
canadian, i was canadian until i was 19, i was
american too, see i was a canadian born abroad as my
parent's were both canadian citizens.  i never once
considered validating my canadian citzenship when i
turned 19.  
i like milk in bags though and coffee crisps.

someone said they want to move to america, come on
over!  forget all the self-haters, it is trendy to say
how much america sucks but it doesn't really.  

my girlfriend has been emailing alasdair from the
clientele, he's a swell guy, and he says a hopkirk and
lee album is imminent!!!  yay!!!  this is earth
shattering news, they are the new moose and scottish
even.  i don't think alasdair much likes the fact that
the relict sound exactly like the clientele.  

i liked it when stuart murdoch said that to him primal
scream meant velocity girl, someone needed to reclaim
velocity girl's glory from the disaster that was the
band that stole the name.  jim beattie/navajo is
touring here with adventures in stereo but of course
nowhere near denver.  denver needs to move to a
trendier location.

ok i am done.  bye.

keith m   



    

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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Wed Aug 16 10:41:32 2000
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:41:32 +0200
Subject: Sinister: Sweetheart of the Rod-eh-oh!
Message-ID: <002701c00766$50800640$c698243e@itjfvkli>

I refuse to get drawn into this ugly Magnetic Fields argument that is
clearly brewing on the horizon, but I suspect the suggestion that their
earlier records were better than their "new", "popular" one is a
well-ploughed furrow in the world of indie pop, or indie rock as Mister
Merrit calls it. I've been reading his Jukebox Jury in the huitieme issue of
Chickfactor. He is relentlessly negative, the very antithisis of an acid
jazzer. He is frighteningly well-up on indie rock. What are those bald
patches on the side of your head called, you know, like as if you used to be
in Showaddywaddy or Rocky Sharpe and the Replays? I'm thinking sideburns,
but that's wrong. He's got them, whatever they're called.

PF, I haven't heard any other Rod albums, but if I were you I would stick to
the ones with stickers on them saying:

ROD STEWART
THE
CLASSIC YEARS
Newly Re-mastered
Original Artwork

...and be prepared for a quick trip down the secondhand shop. Purley on the
basis of its cover "Smiler" has got to be a winner. Other than that, it's
The Faces. I used to have a Faces record, but I sold it. How's that for lack
of foresight? It was very raucous. I think it was called "An Old Handbag
Won't Let You Down" or something similar. Quite good, as I recall.

I've looked up "tautology" and I feel compelled to express, I must say, that
it is the very bread and butter, the meat and two veg of pop lyrics. If only
Trousers were still here, he could commission a book on the subject.
Incidentally, is the next Papercuts launch party going to be held in the
revolving restaurant at the top of the Post Office Tower? Just asking. By
the way, I looked up "tautology" to see whther PF was slagging off Pam or
not. He wasn't.

Does anyone know any versions of "I'd Rather Go Blind" except those by Rod,
Etta James and Paul Weller? I need to find the best one, it can't possibly
be Rod, much as I love him, the wee pervert.

Speaking of which, I bet quite a lot of the people going round ganging up on
former child sex offenders are very frightened unconvicted sex offenders
themselves. It's often the case. Now all we have to do is get that idea into
the heads of the mobs and hey presto! Pop Will Eat Itself.

Great drumming on those Rod albums.

Peter

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From lucyalder at xxx.com  Wed Aug 16 10:56:10 2000
From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 02:56:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister:  Bricks, broken bottles and sticks
Message-ID: <20000816095610.18138.qmail@web1601.mail.yahoo.com>

Right, it's not fair for a thread to be done and dusted in 24 hours because it doesn't take
account of the fact that people who worked a TWELVE HOUR DAY yesterday, then went home to clean
the house and pack all their stuff for an imminent move and are absolutely cream-crackered this
morning, didn't have time to read a single sinister message yesterday.  I'm sorry, OK, but I've
just got to add my piece.  For all the frighteningly intelligent musings on tautologies and
oxymorons, nobody has mentioned the following:

 - The phrase is 'pure as the driven snow' and 'cold' appears to have been added because an extra
syllable was needed to make the line fit the music nicely
 - Snow is cold, always.  It may perhaps be less cold or more cold, but it's certainly never warm,
hot or scalding*
 - Should you stress the y or the second o in Oxymoron?  (I favour the o)

Oh dear, I was hoping Mark Casarotto was gone for good, but nay, he only left our company for a
little over a week.  Ah well, at least I can take the piss out of him because he mentioned that he
received a nice cheque from http://www.bananalotto.co.uk but omitted one small detail - he won 50
new English pence.  It's true, you know.  I'd take his claims of gambling prowess with a pinch of
salt, if I were you.

PF said

It will be a good record with 
> Pamela Berry on it - which is the last definition of a tautology that anyone 
> needs round here

and I'd like to second that, while adding that people who join Ms Berry in her musical endeavours
aren't too bad either.

Honestly, the youth of today!  Pyromania, bouze, miraculous ungayings, blood, spunk, pish, shite,
nipples, tongs and raw meat all in one night?  And I bet you stayed up past your bedtime too, Miss
Jenowl.  Shameful.

Keith M said

someone needed to reclaim
> velocity girl's glory from the disaster that was the
> band that stole the name.

But I think our own Velocity Girl has done a very good job of that.  Well done for organising the
next picnic on the 27th, Vel.  This is most fortuitous because (a) I will be able to make it and
(b) it is on Sinister's 3rd birthday and (c) it is on the first anniversary of me getting a voice
on the list.  Those of you that can make it, I'll see you there - as always, I'll be the one with
a big bottle of gin.  Those of you that are further flung and won't be there, pull on your red
knickers to celebrate our birthday and flash them about as much as possible.  Go on, make Honey
blush.

That's all I'm writing for now because all my drudgery at home and at work has turned my brain
into a gigantic frazzle.  Literally.  But I suppose it might come in handy as a mid-afternoon
snack.

Juicy Lucy


*sorry for stating the bleeding obvious there.


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From starpiekat at xxx.uk  Wed Aug 16 14:04:37 2000
From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:04:37 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: Wad Stewart?
Message-ID: <20000816130437.4303.qmail@web1703.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello!

There's an arguement about the Magnetic Fields? I didn't notice, all I will say
is that upon meeting Stephin Merritts wicked evil mother I understand why he is
such a big (short) grump-face. Meanie! Thats why Stephins gay, right, no decent
female role models in his life! If it wasn't for his mother, he'd already be my
husband. Not that he isn't my husband already of course, ha ha! He loves ME.
Yeah! Wicked.

Hmm I've just realised that makes it three gay American husbands I have.
Someone made a comment that I seem to make sure I can't get hurt by going for
the most unavaliable men possible, but I don't think thats true. I just think
thats the way things happen! I picked up a book called Fag Hag the other day,
but I didn't get it. I bought some DVDS instead!!! 'Go', and um....'Queer as
Folk 2'.... d'oh... dvds are great! I am now the type of person that pops out
and buys a few dvds, you knowworrimean... and then wanders off to Prada and
picks up a few odd bits and bobs and then buys a spanking new stereo from Bang
& Olufsen, before jetting off to Africa to visit their adopted meerkat
sanctuary.

Is anyone good at making spring rolls?

I wonder if Stuart Murdoch can? He can drive you know, it said so in Select. I
don't hear Belle & Sebastian much in shops, especially not the Gap. So perhaps
thats why I don't find it cynically amusing to hear that an employee decided to
play Belle & Sebastian one day, and someone recognised them... I'd just think
"oh hey B&S!", and then hope that it was a hot boy standing behind the counter
who was playing them. We could strike up a conversation, then go for
'coffee'.... ah the potential! Yummy. I do need to buy a nice pair of plain
black trousers, I may visit my local Gap store... which of course is 40 miles
away. If only they could promise me they would be playing Belle & Sebastian, or
PJ & Duncan, or Kitty Craft, or 'Get Yourself Together' by Velocette. Which is
a fantastic song! Who else thinks its great? I do.

Who's going to the Lunding picnic? I am undecided. If I went, who would come
and play DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION with me?? The Euromix machine is in Colindale,
we could dance to the BUGGLES! How much better could it get? But if you don't
want we don't have to go so far, we could just play the normal game. Dance
Dance Revolution is the real deal, I bet if Baxendale ever played it, they'd
cry in shame at how wimpy and weedy their 'sound of dance music' *really* is! 

Has Peter Miller ever played Dance Dance Revolution?

OK! I am ended!
Love, Sarah
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From david at xxx.uk  Wed Aug 16 15:21:12 2000
From: david at xxx.uk (David White)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 15:21:12 +0100
Subject: Sinister: MP3s
Message-ID: <LNBBIEGADDEMDLPIAGBKGEFICCAA.david@djwhite47.freeserve.co.uk>

Hello again,

Youn J Noh said
>When I downloaded Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner, the end was cut

>off. Was it that way for others, as well? I tried to download it again,

>but the link no longer works. Of course, I'm grateful to be able to

>listen to it at all.

OK, firstly, I've fixed the dodgy link problem and anyone who couldn't
download it should be able to now. Secondly the cut off end. I'm not sure
about this, I put up the full version which should be bang on 5 minutes in
length. If by the end is cut off you mean it ends quite abruptly after the
cheering starts at the end, then thats because fat, unfunny radio 1 DJ Chris
Moyles (who was the presenter) started talking and nobody needs to hear
that. If this is not what you meant or if anyone else is experiencing
problems please let me know ASAP and I'll try and sort it out! (I've not had
any other complaints about that though)

Incidentally I have got Lord Anthony on MP3 now and will be putting it on
www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk soon. I'll post another message when
its available for download.

Take care,

David


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From mrsaudiac at xxx.com  Wed Aug 16 16:54:55 2000
From: mrsaudiac at xxx.com (Jennifer Phillips-Bacher)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:54:55 CDT
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well i've finally crawled out of my cubbyhole to bring you all another 
review of FYHC because i know you just can't get enough (of dave gahan in 
leather. erm, no thanks).  anycrap, this tidbit is brought to you by our 
friends at mcsweeneys.net.  you'll have to scroll down a bit to get to the b 
& s segment, but please do read the other reviews.  i insist.

without further ado:

F R A N C I S   H E A N E Y ' S
L I P O G R A M M A T I C
C O N S U M E R   G U I D E .

BY FRANCIS HEANEY

- - - -

A REVIEW OF BECK'S "MIDNITE VULTURES,"
USING ONLY THE LETTERS IN "BECK: MIDNITE VULTURES."


It's... indiscreet. It's like, "dick, dick, dick; smut, smut, smut; vice, 
vice, vice; slut, slut, slut." Seductive Beck is Mister Luv. Is Beck music's 
kinkiest librettist ever? Beck, it seems, desires submissive bimbette 
mistresses under seventeen, dressed in slit miniskirts, derriere unveiled. 
But I'd surmise nine men in ten lust like Beck lusts; it isn't eccentric.

Is "Midnite Vultures" sick? It'd incite tics in numbskull Bible Belt 
residents, sure, but it isn't sick, it's slick. Slick like cr�me br�l�e, 
dude, believe me. "Midnite Vultures'" eclectic music revels in its ebullient 
leisure-suit-'n'-sideburns seventies vibe. Never mind its tunes' 
intermittent mindlessness. I like it.


- - - -

A REVIEW OF THE CURE'S "BLOODFLOWERS,"
USING ONLY THE LETTERS IN "THE CURE: BLOODFLOWERS."


Oh, Lord. "Bloodflowers," where the out-of-touch Cure tell us, "Toodle-oo, 
fellow brotherhood of scowlers, we're bored." Well, we're bored too. 
Cheerless, self-obsessed Robert S. broods for the whole dull CD. Heretofore, 
Cure records were sorrowful, sure, but so short of soul? The wretched 
"Bloodflowers" follows Robert S.'s Rules of Order to the letter: Be blue, 
show oodles of woe, use two or three chords, flow too slow, blow out the 
subwoofers.

The Cure's obsolete subculture'll doubtless feel the CD's cool, but the rest 
of the world should flee. Flee! Flee the terror of "Bloodflowers"! The CD's 
worth lots of four-letter words, but we'll be less rude; so, to close: Show 
"Bloodflowers" the cold shoulder. Blecch.


- - - -

A REVIEW OF XTC'S "WASP STAR,"
USING ONLY THE LETTERS IN "XTC: WASP STAR."


XTC's art: strata apart. "Wasp Star's" wax trax attract rapt cats: A+


- - - -

A REVIEW OF BELLE & SEBASTIAN'S
"FOLD YOUR HANDS, CHILD, YOU WALK LIKE A PEASANT,"
USING ONLY THE LETTERS IN "BELLE & SEBASTIAN:
FOLD YOUR HANDS, CHILD, YOU WALK LIKE A PEASANT."


It's nice.





and there you go.  now run off and make up your own.

with love,
jenn
xo
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From sophiesea at xxx.com  Wed Aug 16 17:49:56 2000
From: sophiesea at xxx.com (sophie harris)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:49:56 GMT
Subject: Sinister: stop me oh ho ho stop me.......
Message-ID: <LAW2-F306RJrzdDW6lC00001a5f@hotmail.com>

*
aside from gazing at a pic of jonathan richman (sans modern lovers) in his 
youth, these things have been distacting me from my verk.

>I
>reckon We Rule the School's "Written for anyone to read, and to
>see" is firmly
>in the 'stupid' camp .� I think someone else said as much a while
>ago.� I mean
>of course they can bloody see it if they can read it.

>My feeling here is that SM means "to see" in the (possibly Biblical)
sense of "to understand".

on the subject of we rule the school i 'ave bin thinkin mainly two things.
first (the worst) - well, surely the difference between reading and seeing 
is like the difference between listening and hearing, non? and
second (the best) (is third 'the one with the hairy chest?' or am i barking 
up the wrong nursey rhyme?) - hmm, after my extra ordinary llpj walk home 
the other night, i really was filled with a lusty joy (erm), and felt on an 
upward keel. and the following day was really *swell*, and i kept thinking, 
something's gonna go wrong, it must do... and it did; my purse - my 
favourite one, pink leather with elephant - was pinched, swiped from my bag 
in the rubbishy griffin pub next door to charing cross. and my best tape 
too. and i tried so hard not to be upset, but it was truly 
parade-raining-on, 'cause my friend sam gave me the purse, and it's one of 
my most most pleasing *things*. anyway, my bestest friend marsha's russian 
granny says 'you own your things, they don't own you'. which is all very 
lovely, but i feel a bit like my teddy bear's been snaffled or something. 
*aaanyway*, the point of this, is that i then got on the train home, a 
little fuzzy around the ears (awful when you *were* drunk, and then 
something horrid happens, so you're kindof *sober* drunk), and i listened to 
'we rule the school' and wanted to cry. and i thought, sod tautologies. this 
song's important to me because it's a hug ona train. so there (she said 
tweely, bugger).

>Can anyone remember anything re. Drop Nineteens? I wish I could.

aaah the long lost days of 92 - the drop nineteens were all nineteen 
(inspired) and did the really quite wonderful 'my aquarium' ('when you 
smiiiile - i think it's bedder the second time around, and at the end - you 
can do it agaaaaain...') thems were the days.

and Peter said,

>Does anyone know any versions of "I'd Rather Go Blind" except those by Rod,
Etta James and Paul Weller? I need to find the best one, it can't possibly
be Rod, much as I love him, the wee pervert.

and i thought the definitive version was sidney youngblood? no? well i'm off 
to phone my bank manager, cause the bastard that knicked (or is it nicked?) 
my card has rung up 200 quid on somethingorother. but my bank manager and i 
have an undestanding 'cause we were both born on christmas eve. bonza.

if only milk were sold in bags everywhere, specially with coffee crisps. 
although coffee republic's mango teazer is *terribly* nice.

'kay byyyyye
xs



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From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk  Wed Aug 16 18:38:39 2000
From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 18:38:39 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Unhappy juxtapositions
Message-ID: <8025693D.006293E1.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk>



> well, surely the difference between reading and seeing is like the
> difference between listening and hearing, non?

Yeah, that would be all very well if the line were presented in the order
"written for anyone to see and to read".  One can see what's on the bus stop
without reading it but cannot read it without seeing it.  So the 'see' bit is
redundant.  Unless you buy Mike the renegade monk's interpretation of 'see'.
But I don't.  I just think SM's filling out the line.

>> Can anyone remember anything re. Drop Nineteens? I wish I could.

> aaah the long lost days of 92 - the drop nineteens were all nineteen
> (inspired) and did the really quite wonderful 'my aquarium' ('when
> you smiiiile - i think it's bedder the second time around, and at the
> end - you can do it agaaaaain...') thems were the days.

No they bloody weren't.  I remember the Drop Nineteens.  I remember taking an
intense dislike to them when the lead singer did an interview with the NME in
which he boasted about people being much richer in the USA.  'People's house in
England are just so... shitty compared to the States', he said.  Fuck off back
to Delaware you blinkered shit, I thought.  Later I thought it was refreshingly
honest, but then I changed my mind again.

Peter Miller will find lots of versions of 'I'd rather go blind' if he goes to
cdnow.com and does a song title search.  I liked the prospect of Little Milton's
version until I found out it was on a 1998 album that starts with a track called
'Big Boned Woman' and follows it with one called 'He Saw An Opening', which
seemed an unhappy juxtaposition.  Maybe it's just me.  Instead I recommend he
goes for Long John Baldry's 'On Stage Tonight-Baldry's Out!'

I agree with Mark for once.  69 Love Songs pisses all over 'Get Lost'.  That's a
good thing in my book.  Would anyone like to read my book.  It's not all golden
showers, you know.  Has anyone bid for Belle and Sebastian's services yet?


N. x


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From pixidustlady at xxx.uk  Wed Aug 16 20:04:28 2000
From: pixidustlady at xxx.uk (the original pixidustlady)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:04:28 +0100
Subject: Sinister: human cloning
Message-ID: <000701c007b4$f5af7bc0$51ca28c3@pixidustlady>

i know this has absolutely bugger all to do with B&S, but i've been sitting
playing tetris, listening to the news, and the whole furore about human
cloning that's come up after that government announcement about using human
embryos for the stem cells really got me thinking.  this pro-life
campaigner - a woman - said that creating an embryo, taking the stem cells,
and then discarding the embryo, was the equivalent of murder.  i thought
that was ridiculous.  fair enough, the clump of cells that makes up an
embryo has the *potential* to become a baby and then be born and grow up to
have many many life experiences, such as listening to B&S and realising that
maybe life isnt quite so bad*,  but surely until that happens, it's just a
clump of cells.  shouldn't it have to be concious to be considered alive,
which would then make discarding it murderous?
then a scientist/boffin type guy talked about what the medical researchers
would actually DO with the cells they want to take from the embryos.
apparently,  stem cells can be used to grow organs (always useful for
transplants)  brain tissue (which he said could be used to combat things
like Parkinsons and Alzheimers) and other useful bits and bobs.  but of
course, there's lots of debate and people throwing their hands up in horror,
saying it's all a crime against the human race, etc etc.

at this point i began to think about evolution.  some people out there may
think that what i'm about to say is a harsh viewpoint, but i can only
apologise and say that it's only what I think, it's hardly gonna change the
world.  i have been thinking  recently about evolution, natural selection,
survival of the fittest etc., in relation to our species.  i think that the
human race, as a species, has backed itself into an evolutionary dead end.
the development of medical science and technology over the last 200 years
has meant that (and this is from a strictly biological perspective, i'm not
trying to discriminate against anyone on the grounds of colour, creed,
gender, religion, faith, age or anything else) people who would not have had
the chance to breed because they would not have survived, have actually done
so.  the offspring produced therefore carry negative genetic traits.  i saw
an advert in  a magazine last week for a cancer charity.  it said that one
in three people will get some form of cancer at some time in their lives.  i
was stunned.  one in three.  those aren't good odds.  statistically, out of
me and my two brothers, one of us is going to get cancer.  i think that's a
really scary thought.  it makes me wonder if all our higher brain functions
are really such a gift.  we may be able to choose who we mate with, but is
it really such a bonus to be able to override the survival instincts that
tell our brains 'not him/her, s/he is not healthy'.
  in the end, the human race is going to die because there'll be nobody left
fit enough to actually survive.
i'm just trying to look at the bigger picture with all this, a sort of world
view kinda thing.  i know that there are many people out there whose lives
have been affected by disease and things like cancer.  i'm not trying to
trivialise anyones problems or feelings, i'm just trying to make sense of
something that scares me and that, at the moment, is slowly killing someone
i love very much.  this my of dealing with that, but i'm sorry if i have
offended anyone.  i would appreciate other people's thoughts on the subject.
karen xxxxx

*did you like the way i managed to get a little relevance in there!!?!

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From pavement at xxx.com  Wed Aug 16 20:50:47 2000
From: pavement at xxx.com (Stephen Howarth)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:50:47 +0100
Subject: Sinister: hmmm- i'm thinking andrei bolkonsky popular incorporating Rod the Mod and his death squad
Message-ID: <004401c007bb$5a53e420$209f01d4@pavement>

How do I make this bloody thing go.

oh erm, stepping out of the shadows v.briefly here and then I'll run away
again.  this is my first post and I've not got me cardie on.  I have got
one. Somewhere.

Kids, get used to the new B&S fans and "fans".  For a start I'm one of the
former.  I've no doubt there are a fair few others on the list who didn't
buy IFYS the moment it came out but does that mean I/they like them less
than you do? All I'm saying is you've got to give other people a chance
that's all.

I mean I've been aware of them for a couple of years after hearing bits and
bobs played at other people's houses on and off and I only started buying
the records a couple of months back.  I am slack, I know.
Having said that though they've not been off the record player since.

As for the "fans" it's happened to me before and I can empathise. Back in
1989 me and a mate were getting the pissed ripped out of us for listening to
the Stone Roses just after they'd done the album, and we went to Ally Pally
at the tender age of fifteen (Aaah memories....) BACK TO THE POINT

THE POINT
Yeah, so come mock exam time (Good luck with GCSE/ALEVELS/HIGHERSetc.etc
btw) this fat twat, who was into jumping on the first passing bandwagon that
happened to be passing, suddenly proclaims his love of all things
Manchester, flared and hooded.  THE REALLY GALLING THING THOUGH,  was he was
one of the arses who'd made my life hell by calling me a freak for six
months.  Next thing you know everyone's going round saying how they really
love these bands and were always into them and had all their singles
etc.etc.
So yeah, get used to the ever increasing popularity of your favourite band
and get ready for severe jealousy and irritation when the kids who thought
they were crap suddenly think they're the best thing since sliced bread.
I love them to bits but I'm never going to claim I loved 'em before any one
else, am I?  I'd be a fool to.

RE: Rod and Chips
Is that "I would rather go blind boy/than to see you walk away from me" etc.
etc.   I've got a version by a band called Chicken Shack from Top Gear
c.1968 which is good, not sure if it's better than Rod the mod god squad
'cos I've never heard it and I'm not even sure if it's the same song.....

"A Nod's as good as a wink to a blind horse"  by Faces.  It's the one with
Stay With Me on it and the classic libe "Ronnie..can you let go of your
guitar I'm getting incredible feedback shit."  Splendid

Bournemouth -> There used to be a good club next door to the Firefly and
Firkin called Xtreme or something on Saturday, I don't know if it's still
there and the one near the station(just up from the Texaco garage) which
changed its name every three months (for tax reasons I assume)  the
Gardening Club/The hothouse/Other gardening related thing

Running away now......

Pavement





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From Adam.Williams at xxx.uk  Wed Aug 16 12:38:51 2000
From: Adam.Williams at xxx.uk (Adam.Williams at xxx.uk)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:38:51 +0100
Subject: Sinister: one of these days i'm gonna get organizized
Message-ID: <2F6030D3D79DD3119A8300902732B91F01AFC9A1@dti.gsi.net>

Oh hellllllooooooo poppet. LOVE the top. It's just so...you. 
What? This old thing? Why, I've had it ages. You really are too kind. But
enough about me. Let's talk about us. Or the things that connect us, which,
by and large means indie pop music and sulking. And gin.
  Actually, I've not had a very indiepop/sulky/gin time of it lately. Bought
myself the Burt Bacarach Songbook CD which was so good I've soldered my CD
player shut, In retrospect, this was a mistake. My turntable's in my Swiss
mansion and the only other access to tunes i have in my London Bachelor pad
is a rickety old tape player. Plus the only tapes i've mooched from the
goblin that lives in my tape drawer have been Leonard Cohen and the Dead
Kennedys. Consequently I've spent the entire week in a melancholic funk and
feeling quite angry and aggressive about it. Hey ho.
  Couldn't be arsed with The Acid House. I've already got the B&S song and I
can't abide Irvine 'vicarious junkie(*)' Welsh. I did turn on for about
twenty seconds and it was excellent. Then the girl put her top on and
started speaking and it went rubbish.
  Gosh, it's all a bit fourth form lit at the mo' innit? I'd love to
contribute but don't know what the hell you're all on about, being unable to
read anything more advanced than the Ladybird blue range meself. I don't
know all this stuff about moronic oxen, but they don't sound fierce. They're
probably too stupid to recognise a red rag if you waved it at them and hence
couldn't get aggravated. Maybe if they borrowed my Dead Kennedys tapes...
As for tautology, well i don't know what that means. I haven't even got one
of those word-defining dictionary books in which to look it up. H'rrumph.
  And what's with the lingerie biz? I know that women who work together end
up co-ordinating cycles, but for that many people to have red underwear on
the same day seems like a biological miracle. I think i'll skip.
 Picnics? Well, if i'm about in London for bank holiday weekend (which is
about a 50-50 shot at the mo') I'll be sitting in Greenwich Park and
drunkenly abusing people with my usual loucheness. Hey, maybe I'll even come
over and say hello to you lot as well. Stranger things have happened,
especially to Jenowl.
My soul hurts. i need to find a secular priest. Or a bar. Mmmmmm...
see you on the other side. Or Greenwich, whichever's sooner.

Be slinky.
a.

(*) Ta to Will Self.
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From seilsd at xxx.net  Wed Aug 16 21:55:52 2000
From: seilsd at xxx.net (Damon Seils)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:55:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinister: natural selection doesn't work that way
Message-ID: <384213652.966459352795.JavaMail.root@web621-wrb.mail.com>

Hi.

Clearly I have gone too long without posting. Just look at the Body Parts
page, hidden behind dust and spidery things and men's briefs. You should be
ashamed. I have randomly selected Harry Hunt (aka James McSuperman) to make
our next body part contribution and to end the era of decay and neglect that
Sinister's bits have suffered at the hands of the New Democrats. Harry,
comply.

This just in...latest quote-worthy statement from Harry Hunt..."I dont like
anything organic that's not attached to a girl." Typical Yorkshire nonsense!

Um, I don't know what that means.

Sorry for the brevity here, but I expect that the wave of lewd photos
arriving in Honey's inbox will more than compensate. I know *I'll* feel
better.

Hey, did you hear what they're planning for David Kitchen?


I fantasize about you,

Damo


 

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From colinboy21 at xxx.com  Wed Aug 16 22:22:24 2000
From: colinboy21 at xxx.com (colin thornton)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 21:22:24 GMT
Subject: Sinister: The Nick Drake Premiere Party
Message-ID: <F761J106zPpPku04koK0000239e@hotmail.com>

I thought that this bit of information would be wasted if I didn't inform 
the Sinister list about it.  I'm jealous of anyone who lives close enough to 
Amsterdam to go to this thing...

On September the 11th a special event is going to take place in Holland's 
best rock temple: the Paradiso, Amsterdam.

Gabrielle Drake will host the premiere of the documentary 'A Skin Too 
Few-the days of Nick Drake'. Robert Kirby
conducts a string ensemble playing his original Nick Drake arrangements live 
and for the first time since the albums
were recorded. Amongst others John Wood will be there and is the 
soundengineer of that evening.

Updates on extra appearances and on the documentary will follow soon. Also 
on:

<http://www.nickdrakeworld.com/>
and
<http://www.algonet.se/~iguana/DRAKE/DRAKE.html>

Just make sure you're there and spread the word!

I love this list and all the crazy tautoligies.  I could go for years 
without thinking of that word, but this lovely list never ceases to amaze 
me.

Incidentally, why do you think Stuart "kicks the crutches from his crippled 
friend"?  Is this song full of hyperbole?  What is it supposed to mean?

Colin "Saint of the holy light"


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From Catspaw1 at xxx.com  Wed Aug 16 22:47:59 2000
From: Catspaw1 at xxx.com (Catspaw1 at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:47:59 EDT
Subject: Sinister: The Nick Drake Premiere Party
Message-ID: <a3.a2690d7.26cc660f@aol.com>

In a message dated 8/16/00 4:31:57 PM Central Daylight Time, 
colinboy21 at hotmail.com writes:

<< Incidentally, why do you think Stuart "kicks the crutches from his 
crippled 
 friend"?  Is this song full of hyperbole?  What is it supposed to mean? >>

Those crippled bastards have been getting a free ride for far too long!  
Bravo, Stuart!

B Clay
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From ourpeppermintscene at xxx.com  Thu Aug 17 00:41:51 2000
From: ourpeppermintscene at xxx.com (keith mclachlan)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:41:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: microwave
Message-ID: <20000816234151.7176.qmail@web2303.mail.yahoo.com>


>Can anyone remember anything re. Drop Nineteens? 
I wish I could.

>aaah the long lost days of 92 - the drop 
>nineteens were all nineteen 
>(inspired) and did the really quite wonderful 'my 
>aquarium' ('when you 
>smiiiile - i think it's bedder the second time 
>around, and at the end - you 
>can do it agaaaaain...') thems were the days.


i remember the drop 19s only cause they wrote a song
about winona ryder and it was ok but the rest of the
album was dreadful, then i saw them live and paula hot
rod was seen, by me the horror, kissing mat from
revolver and the dropsies became an enigma after that
because of perceived bad taste.  actually though
revolver's 'cold water flat' was one of the best
shoegazing records ever, maybe.

i was rebutted on another list by mcmicker, i guess no
new hopkirk and lee album is imminent(no wonder it is
raining here today for the first time in eons) and
also they are not actually the new moose.  he claims
moose have covered a lot of ground and my comparison
was ill advised.  sorry.  
apparently they are not the new belle and sebastian
either.  sorry, again.

also, apparently, 'the model' is a sped up version of
century of fakers, i don't really hear the similarity
but i have a tin ear.  i suppose i don't listen close
enough to make such empirical observations.  
sorry.

is salako's ep on elefant part of their ongoing ep
series?  

it is a swell ep.  am i allowed to talk about salako
on this list?

i like how european labels tend to press their singles
and lps on heavier vinyl.  us labels too often pass of
myelin sheath thickness records that come ready warped
and nearly unplayable.

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From katefunky at xxx.com  Thu Aug 17 17:47:20 2000
From: katefunky at xxx.com (Kate Funky)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:47:20 EST
Subject: Sinister: the view from the sixth floor
Message-ID: <LAW2-F6NE53UW5YWeLR00000dab@hotmail.com>

well hello everybody. there has been so much great posting going on lately, 
that i have caught up with in the last couple of days.  you see, my life has 
been a little busy of late.  there was the business of having a birthday, 
and a party (you would have all been invited, but i couldn't fit all you 
beautiful people in the pub). and there's a ball on tonight (i SHALL go to 
the ball- sorry, had to get that out of my system) that i was helping 
organise, and then assorted crap.  but anyway, not interesting.

i just read what pixidustlady wrote about cloning and genetic modification. 
its really quite bizarre. i think what we are trying to do is not breed out 
imperfections and weak genes, but find a loophole where we will be able to 
fix the problems the dodgy genes are causing. i think people are trying to 
outrun evolution. i also thinkg we're trying to outrun ethics. i don't think 
of a bundle of cells as a living thing, but i wonder at what point do i 
start thinking of a baby as a person- it's a really tricky question for me. 
anyway, i'll leave this for everyone else to ponder and debate.

the lucksmiths! being a melbourne girl, i share my wonderful city with this 
womderful band. i was so excited to see that people on the other side of the 
world are also loving this band. i haven't seen them play in a while (i 
foolishly missed my last couple of chances ) but they are great. and the 
rest of the candle roster are pretty good too. the mabels are great, 
particularly, and ruck rover are also pretty cool.

well, i love to read these posts. i would also love to drive across america 
listening to belle and sebastian, maybe that will have to wait (instead of a 
picnic, we could organise trans-continental road trips. or something). 
anyway, love to honey and the sinister fold.
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From margarita at xxx.com  Thu Aug 17 03:36:00 2000
From: margarita at xxx.com (triumphant loser)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 21:36:00 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Hate begins with science
Message-ID: <000d01c007f3$e27c05c0$ba8ffacf@oemcomputer>

With all this talk about cloning going on i can only come to one
conclusion.....people who want it hate themselves, trying to make a better
"you" through the marvels of science.The thought is rather idiotic when you
think about it, i mean whats the sense?Humans playing with things not ment
for them, thats what this is about......first we must harness the power of
the atom in order to wipe out small nations...next thing you know we try to
clone people for god knows what.Even if this idea does work out the copy is
never as good as the original....and do you know why? Because we are not and
never will be as smart as god.


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From DelyM2 at xxx.com  Thu Aug 17 08:09:03 2000
From: DelyM2 at xxx.com (DelyM2 at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 03:09:03 EDT
Subject: Sinister: human cloning
Message-ID: <200008170706.IAA29889@missprint.org>

so pixidust lady was saying:

"this pro-life
campaigner - a woman - said that creating an embryo, taking the stem cells,
and then discarding the embryo, was the equivalent of murder."

I'm wondering if this same woman finds it murderous to eat lettuce.   Lettuce is quite alive and kicking when you bite the hell out of it.   so ive come to believe.  we are constantly commiting this crime we call murder. in almost every step we take.  but i wont get into that. 

So anyway...I was talking to someone i work with about music. she brought up "indie sock"  .  i was thinking, "what in gods name is 'indie sock'".   but i figured it would be impolite to ask.    so i smiled.   


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From Adam.Williams at xxx.uk  Wed Aug 16 17:48:28 2000
From: Adam.Williams at xxx.uk (Adam.Williams at xxx.uk)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:48:28 +0100
Subject: Sinister: one of these days i'm gonna get organizized
Message-ID: <2F6030D3D79DD3119A8300902732B91F01AFC9A6@dti.gsi.net>

(if you've seen this - i'm sorry. So sorry)
Oh hellllllooooooo poppet. LOVE the top. It's just so...you. 
What? This old thing? Why, I've had it ages. You really are too kind. But
enough about me. Let's talk about us. Or the things that connect us, which,
by and large means indie pop music and sulking. And gin.
  Actually, I've not had a very indiepop/sulky/gin time of it lately. Bought
myself the Burt Bacarach Songbook CD which was so good I've soldered my CD
player shut, In retrospect, this was a mistake. My turntable's in my Swiss
mansion and the only other access to tunes i have in my London Bachelor pad
is a rickety old tape player. Plus the only tapes i've mooched from the
goblin that lives in my tape drawer have been Leonard Cohen and the Dead
Kennedys. Consequently I've spent the entire week in a melancholic funk and
feeling quite angry and aggressive about it. Hey ho.
  Couldn't be arsed with The Acid House. I've already got the B&S song and I
can't abide Irvine 'vicarious junkie(*)' Welsh. I did turn on for about
twenty seconds and it was excellent. Then the girl put her top on and
started speaking and it went rubbish.
  Gosh, it's all a bit fourth form lit at the mo' innit? I'd love to
contribute but don't know what the hell you're all on about, being unable to
read anything more advanced than the Ladybird blue range meself. I don't
know all this stuff about moronic oxen, but they don't sound fierce. They're
probably too stupid to recognise a red rag if you waved it at them and hence
couldn't get aggravated. Maybe if they borrowed my Dead Kennedys tapes...
As for tautology, well i don't know what that means. I haven't even got one
of those word-defining dictionary books in which to look it up. H'rrumph.
  And what's with the lingerie biz? I know that women who work together end
up co-ordinating cycles, but for that many people to have red underwear on
the same day seems like a biological miracle. I think i'll skip.
 Picnics? Well, if i'm about in London for bank holiday weekend (which is
about a 50-50 shot at the mo') I'll be sitting in Greenwich Park and
drunkenly abusing people with my usual loucheness. Hey, maybe I'll even come
over and say hello to you lot as well. Stranger things have happened,
especially to Jenowl.
My soul hurts. i need to find a secular priest. Or a bar. Mmmmmm...
see you on the other side. Or Greenwich, whichever's sooner.

Be slinky.
a.

(*) Ta to Will Self.
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From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk  Thu Aug 17 11:24:25 2000
From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:24:25 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: SiNiSteR PiC-NiC: LoNdoN, 27th August; more info!
Message-ID: <20000817102425.20839.qmail@web3002.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello again,
Well, after asking Mr Martin Robinson for his
assistance in organising the picnic, here I am with
more details...
First of all I would like to say that I'm really sorry
if the 27th seems to be inconvenient for some people;
I really wish you could all make it but that seems
impossible and anyway it's hard to try to please all
the people all the time...
The picnic's going to take place on Sunday the 27th
August at Greenwich Park... and a big thanks to Juicy
Lucy for her kind words and because she reminded us
that on the 27th is 
                     SiNiStEr'S BiRtHdaY
3 years of sinister... so we must have a picnic to
celebrate... the other reason for having the picnic on
that day is that next day, Monday the 28th is a bank
holiday, so people won't have to go to work... If it
was up to me, we could have had the picnic next
weekend which would be fine as I'll be in London for
holidays, so I'm not really bothered when it's taking
place... but the 27th seems to be ideal...
Ok, enough with this... Let's get on with the details:
As I said in my previous post we're meeting at 2pm
near the statue on the top of the hill...
Martin said he's going to meet you either at Maze Hill
station, if you get the 13:32 train from London
Charing Cross arriving at Maze Hill at 13:50. Then he
can meet people at the statue at 2pm, or in the picnic
area which is about 50 yards along the top of the hill
on the left as you walk away from the statue and the
river. His mobile number in case anyone is lost and
needs Martin to send a rescue team is:  07968 369985 

WhAT If It RaInS  - WhAT If It PiSSeS DowN

If it rains there is a cafe next to the picnic area
where we can run for cover, 
if it's pissing down all day then we'll go to the
Trafalgar Pub or somewhere... If you go to Trafalgar
Pub and see noone there, just call Martin on his
mobile and he, again, will send a rescue team...
OK? I think we have everything covered now...
Oh,
BG Mark said:
> See you kids at whatever picnic wins the battle of >
the picnics
Mark, there isn't any picnic battle!! Is there? 

That's all... take good care and if you need anything,
just email me, but please, off the list... there's no
reason why we should "swap the list with short posts"
about the picnic...
hugs
               Vel xxx






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From idleberry at xxx.com  Thu Aug 17 11:44:26 2000
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 03:44:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: B+S content shock and...re:Wad Stewart?
Message-ID: <20000817104426.28456.qmail@web615.mail.yahoo.com>

 Sarah said: >>I don't hear Belle & Sebastian much in
shops, especially not the Gap. So perhaps
thats why I don't find it cynically amusing to hear
that an employee decided to play Belle & Sebastian one
day, and someone recognised them... I'd just think
"oh hey B&S!", and then hope that it was a hot boy
standing behind the counter who was playing them. 

After reading that, it made me wonder,
where have other sinisterians heard B+S being played?

So far I can personally list ooh, all of three places:

1. Record Shop, Fopp, in Edinburgh. Around the time of
the re-release of Tigermilk. I'd had it fed to me so
much I relented and ended up buying my first B+S
record. And my second. I got BWTAS as well. You can
probably guess what happened after that...

2. At my hairdressers, Paterson SA in Edinburgh.
Bonus, my hairdresser looks like Jamie Naked Chef,
downer, he hates B+S. But hey, they played BTWTAS!! it
was frustrating sitting there with wet hair piled high
having to sit still when Dirty dream came on.... the
temptation to jump up and dance....

3. In Glasgow, in some Jewellry shop, with Mark, and
we were buying a brooch for his mum's birthday back in
April. I can't remember the name of the shop, it was
in The Buchanan Galleries, near Boots or H+M, and they
played "If You're Feeling Sinister" very very quietly.
So we bopped our heads along quietly and stayed til it
had finished. And bought a brooch as well.

Anyone else experienced a B+S taste  moment overcoming
whoever is selecting the background music in a shop?

Oooh, and while I am here, I got a new animation. This
one is hand drawn, and so far, good reports from
people. 
The link to go to is:

http://www.geocities.com/idleberry/lovestory.html

Its quite long so far, and I'm working on part two,
with all sorts of hidden references and things in it.
Its created especially for B+S fans.

Okay, thats me off now.
Later!
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From amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk  Thu Aug 17 11:52:16 2000
From: amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk (amy_jackson0)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:52:16 +0100
Subject: Sinister: an A grade f*ck up/ uk garage all star annoys me/ struan and isobel seen outside/other ramblings...
Message-ID: <002d01c00839$36a7d260$38ccb0c2@tinypc>

fellow popkids,

this Scottish exam results crisis/f*ck-up has left me all shades of miffed.
although i've got my results, can i trust them?  will i get a letter in a
few days saying, "actually, miss jackson, you did not get an A and three Bs,
you got four D's. sorry."   it's possible.  some of my friends didn't even
get an envelope through their door, others had results missed off the
certificates and one of my friends got awarded a B for her Higher German,
when she didn't even sit German this year!  it's so stoopid.  and now the
universities have abandoned the administration until at least next week, so
everyone has even longer to wait to see if they've got a place at uni.  the
education system is crap.  but, no education = no future, as the mighty
mogwai say.  ho hum.

B&S content.

my mate niall saw struan and isobel walking down sauchiehall street after he
was at a graham coxon gig.  just thought i'd mention it...

that craig david guy is really beginning to annoy me.  all of his songs are
about his sexual conquests!  for example, the one before last was about how
he seduced his next door neighbour and took her out but her parents didn't
approve, and his new one is about how he met "a beautiful honey with a
beautiful body" at an underpass on monday, took her for a drink on tuesday
and they did some bedroom gymnastics on wednesday, thursday, friday and
saturday, then he "chilled" on sunday.  bluddy right an' all.  talk about
having a one track mind.  and he grows this bum fluff all over his chin and
calls it a beard and he wears that god awful wooly hat all the time!  i'm
sorry, but the guy really aggravates me.  you non-uk sinisterines don't know
how lucky you are.  although he is apparently gonna work with puff grandpa,
so you'll be subjected to some monotone mumbling from the puffster and
hearing all about the boy david's trans-atlantic conquests.  oh joy.

been listening to jeff buckley a lot lately.  absolute blissful beauty.
voice of an angel.  'nuff said i think.

adios,
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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Thu Aug 17 13:19:02 2000
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:19:02 +0200
Subject: Sinister: I'd Rod-ther Go Blind/Good Time
Message-ID: <002c01c00845$7ac0df80$a785243e@itjfvkli>

I agree with Nick that "On Stage Tonight - Baldry's Out!" looks like the
best bet for hot "I'd rather Go Blind" action. BUT! won't it have Rod
Stewart on vocals? Jean Knight does it too, along with "My Toot Toot". While
I was searching for these treats I came across that Brian Wilson tribute
album featuring the entire population of Glasgow, and thought I was one step
ahead of the pack when I saw Stevie Jackson on it, but a quick search of the
archives shows me to be hopelessly out of date. But I do know where the song
comes from, sort of. It was on a bootleg with a picture of an indian on the
front. And I think there was a version by Spring, or American Spring or
whatever. It features a reference to falsies, which I hope Stevie has kept
in. Is the organ Beans-driven? Is the album any good? I picked it up to have
a look at it the other day, but I was so disgusted by the presence of Eugene
Kelly that I put it down again before I got to Stevie.

I've got a Northern Soul book, so watch out!

Picnic solution: why not have two picnics, one for Magnetic Fields fans and
one for anybody with some semblance of intelligence? Yeah, that's right...
hold on, this isn't going to work, is it? No one wants to have a fight about
the Magnetic Fields. They are rubbish, you know. No? Oh bloody sod yer then.

Idleberry, I have heard B&S is in the cinema, at kicking out time.

Peter

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From kmhyde at xxx.edu  Thu Aug 17 13:28:01 2000
From: kmhyde at xxx.edu (kmhyde at xxx.edu)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 08:28:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinister: the tyranny of a large breasted boss
Message-ID: <200008171228.IAA04065@webmail.wm.edu>


hello...

while i (semi) enjoyed that little language thread we 
had going, it seems it was not quite so popular with 
the rest of the crowd (i received the lion's share of 
the death threats on that one, while Youn only got a 
brick to the side of the head. lucky bastard). but it 
was intersting to see how many people actually know 
this stuff. back home most of my kith and kin don't 
even understand how to correctly dangle a participle, 
and that's just a sin against god in my book.


heh. anyway, I just wanted to say that I enjoy 
everyone's posts here, but that i won't be able to post 
for quite some time after this. My boss saw me on email 
the other day, and I was *severely* chastised for 
spending too much time on the e-missives. however, this 
is coming from the same woman who spends approximately 
10 minutes on work per 50 minutes of chatting. No one 
talks to me here, since I'm a temp, and so the only 
human interaction i would ever have- if not for email- 
would be when i say "hi" to the guard in the lobby. 

no doubt i would turn into some sort of half 
crazed "cubicle man", developing my own language and 
secret customs after months of isolation. slowly 
discovering the atavistic pursuit that is data entry.


well. hopefully I shall return to the fold soon.

until then my sweet lemurs,

kevin
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From ynoh at xxx.edu  Thu Aug 17 12:59:28 2000
From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 07:59:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinister: auction
In-Reply-To: <8025693D.006293E1.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk>
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They have a section for the auction now on the B & S web site and 19
entries so far.  

Would anyone be interested in the following open categories?

1.  take photos of the place where you live
2.  read selections of text and tape it; either person could select the
    texts; it wouldn't have to be original work; useful for foreign
    language students and bit-part actors as a model for pronunciation and
    intonation

It would be a good way to take advantage of Belle & Sebastian's 
international fanbase.  And it's low key.  My thinking was that lots of
people could volunteer under each category.  

Idleberry's animation is nice!  I especially like Sebastian's expression
when it's his turn to talk.  

Thanks for fixing the link to Loneliness, David.
 
So PF's fear that questions would remain unanswered, his work
unfinished, was justified.  And the only clues I have are 'gloworm' and
'fox-something-or-the-other'.  Hmmm.









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From Adam.Williams at xxx.uk  Thu Aug 17 12:46:59 2000
From: Adam.Williams at xxx.uk (Williams Adam (Mr A))
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:46:59 +0100
Subject: Sinister: I ding dong merrily, I'm high
Message-ID: <2F6030D3D79DD3119A8300902732B91F01AFC9A9@FELPRV02>

aah.
You see, having posted i wait. And I wait. Then about four and a half hours
later, my message still not having appeared and used as i am to them
disappearing into the ether without so much as a rejection response, I
re-send. And, consequently my message DOES appear twice. Arse. i apologise
profusely, but I have been under some not inconsiderable strain of late. My
mind has been plagued with a recent event but my therapist is an oaf with a
Milwall FC pen and would not begin to understand. So, like Mel C, I turn to
you my dear Sinisterettes, sure as I am of your discernment due to your
avowed musical preferences. Let me illuminate you.
  I am a man of impeccable breeding and discernment. Sent down to improve
and edify those less refined than myself by the powers that be, I have
successfully infiltrated all sectors of society and bought Titian to
Toxteth, Mozart to Mile End, Goethe to the Gorbals. Call me a missionary if
you will, it's a position I accept. 
  Alas, however, although my faculties are great my means are finite. Thus
after a period of some self-denial, I was able to afford a fine '76 Veuve
Cliquot I had been hampering after for some months. A night of joy, one will
surely agree, lay ahead. But calamity lay along those darkened streets from
the merchant to the maisonette. The usual hurdling of the homeless was easy
enough, but how was I  able to anticipate interception by a blackguardly
youth?
 Stepping out the shadows with a Stanley knife he sneered at me. "What you
got in the bag, prick?"
Now, i fear no-one and nothing, and rather than take this as a threat, i
decided to take it as an opportunity. To drink alone is a tragedy, so why
not wean this infant off his 'Special Brew' (pah! 'tis the milk from a
dastardly whore!) and introduce him to the finer things in life. My god, I
could even play him Electronic Renaissance!  
I reached into the bag, brandished the bottle. Wanting him to read the label
I thrust the bottle into his face. Oops. i swear he edged forwards but the
glass shattered as swiftly as the bridge of his nose. What had I done? I had
to make amends.
  I noticed the break (the bottle, obviously) had been clean and most of the
precious nectar was still in the 60% of the receptacle i was holding by it's
neck. We could still share a drink after all...
  I adopted the tone one must with these common types - a brusque street
drawl with profane inflection. In my role as educator, I felt a
paternalistic tone of address was necessary.  So, parrying and thrusting (I
cut a dapper figure with the foil) the bottle towards him so he could sample
the bouquet, i stated "Come on sunshine, you fucking want some?", and the
scamp scampered. Half a bottle gone and a social rejection in the same
evening.
  Really, some of the plebiscite have no manners. 
Be slinky,
a.
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From pcxas at xxx.uk  Thu Aug 17 14:09:48 2000
From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:09:48 +0100 (BST)
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0008171344100.21467-100000@granby.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>



Hello dahlings:

Who needs cloning when one can have TopShop?In the middle of this mild
Brit August,every branch is already displaying the Colbyesque 'rich bitch'
outfits sashaying off the top catwalks.Fashionistas of the world,that is
the trend to follow if you want to be seen by Il Conte Casarotto's arm
at the casino next A/T season.Go for it.

I was welcomed back by Nasty Nick on every cover.Thought his initial was
B,allegedly,which made everything slightly confusing at first.However,Big
Bro schedules,both in Spain and here,have been designed just to apart me
from plebeian conversations.I could not follow any of the versions,don't
really know yet if as part of the promised auctions,there will be finally
that coveted B&S cover of this masterpiece of contemporary
exhibitionism...hard to imagine our very discreet Struan in such,to be
honest.And it won't work unless Stuart D. is introduced surpringly to add
the necessary Machiavellian touch.Or would a dose of Kitchenism do?

So far,it seems that they would rise a much higher amount if instead of
Big Brother,they volunteered for a copycat of the latest Spanish
contribution to trash on screen,'Big Fuck'.Three or four couples in a
flat,don't know for how long,and the only condition is that everyone has
to sleep with everyone,and everything is to be seen by the ones at home
who have agreed with the pay-per-view scheme.Only heterosexual
combinations allowed...Maybe Mr Miller could shed some light on this topic
which would prove quite meatier than his late crusade trying to delete the
Magnetic Fields records from the surface of this planet.

After my contribution to increase the smut levels which suffer an endless
decline,only to comment my intention to rise my glass for all the
creatures big and small and balding and gay (and Tim Hopkins) in Sinister
on 27th,if my expected hangover after a traditional Cypriot wedding
ceremony allows me to cope with it.


Love 


A. 





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From nickgillespie at xxx.com  Thu Aug 17 21:08:21 2000
From: nickgillespie at xxx.com (n|ck g)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 20:08:21 GMT
Subject: Sinister: money... who needs it?
Message-ID: <LAW2-F11K1CRwFRftQq0000103f@hotmail.com>


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From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk  Thu Aug 17 21:20:10 2000
From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk (Elizabeth Daplyn)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 21:20:10 +0100
Subject: Sinister: piquenique pieces in an old style
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From nickgillespie at xxx.com  Thu Aug 17 21:29:38 2000
From: nickgillespie at xxx.com (n|ck g)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 20:29:38 GMT
Subject: Sinister: money... who needs it?
Message-ID: <LAW2-F116mrMh0R1hY500002a52@hotmail.com>

i am currently dating a snob. the biggest snob ever. she changes her mind 
more than she changes her shoes - of which she owns hundreds. i come from a 
family which doesn't have much money and on her 21st birthday she inherited 
$20 million. constantly she waves this in everyone's face and i sometimes 
think that she dates guys with no money simply so she can be in "control" of 
the relationship. she does things like pay for dinner and trips (she claims 
because she wants to) but then turns around and throws this guilt trip at me 
the second that she thinks that i am not trying hard enough to please her.

anyways... enough of the background.

today she tells me that she wants to by a Carmen Gia. she has a range rover 
and a saab already. i have told her on many occasions two of the most 
beautifully engineered cars, in my oppinion, are the porsche speedster and 
the vw gia. i was furious. so i told her. i told her that she was not 
allowed to buy that car because she knows nothing about cars and could never 
hope to appreciate that car like it should be. now i know that people buy 
cars every day based on looks (why else would someone buy an american car?) 
but it pisses me off that people like her exist. people that can go out and 
buy up the best cars in the world and know nothing about them and can't 
appreciate them for anything more than a trophy shouldn't be allowed to 
drive anything but ford escorts or fiats. so of course she blows up at me 
and tells me what an asshole i am. the only reason that i continue to date 
this girl is because she has such excellent taste in music. the fact that 
she had the belle and sebastian box set in her car on the day we met told me 
that she was ok. i am starting to rethink it. box set or no box set... she's 
still a snob with no taste in anything but music.

ng

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From hoveringsoul at xxx.com  Thu Aug 17 18:39:00 2000
From: hoveringsoul at xxx.com (David with a 'D')
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:39:00 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Spare us from these thoughts that shake us nightly
Message-ID: <OE48Xsn2Yf0scL9NtDE000001c3@hotmail.com>

"I love riding trains, and feeling responsible and cool, listening the best
of B+S."

Too right, Lila.  Belle and Sebastian are the perfect soundtrack to travel,
in my opinion.  I spent endless weeks going to college on the train, with
B&S in my ears.  Three things I loved were firstly that I never seemed to
get tired of hearing them, as normally happens with any other tapes of mine,
secondly that all the albums fit nicely on one side of a 90 min tape (I have
still to upgrade to a portable CD player, minidisc or MP3 player.
Someday...), and thirdly B&S had the curious effect on me that when I met my
friends on the train, I really did not want to turn them off.   Down, maybe,
but not off.

Which is going to come in handy when I go inter-railing next Wednesday, for
five weeks of train riding around Europe.

On the subject of cloning and so on, somebody once mentioned the following -
or something similar - to me (I have forgotten my source, so if it was a
post on this list, may I take this opportunity to apologise for the blatant
plagiarism which now follows and to commend the original person for getting
me thinking for so long):

In evolutionary terms, we are the next step towards self sufficient
machines.  Nothing more.

As time goes on animals get smarter, we develop and get smarter, we design
machines which develop and get smarter to the point where they don't need us
any more, and they can continue to develop to "perfection".  We're the
equivalent of monkeys in the greater scheme of things, only we created the
machines and we have bigger egos.  And less hair, usually.

I wonder, though, if machines that become conscious and "alive" will
actually want to stay alive.  Will they enjoy life at all, when they see the
sunrise or go out in the rain?  Maybe machines will realise, in their
conscious states, that they don't need or want to do anything and so
reproduction is futile and they will die out and the world will be organic
again.  An Electronic Renaissance.

Goodbye for now.

Go and suck the marrow from the bone that is life, my friends.

David

P.S.  I do not necessarily like or agree with some of the things that popped
up in the last few paragraphs, train thoughts apart, and if anyone's
beliefs/hopes/dreams/feelings/little fingers are upset, incensed or
aggravated by what I've said, I apologise.  I just like things that make me
think without getting me too depressed, like the real world.

Farewell.
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From Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com  Thu Aug 17 21:47:41 2000
From: Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com (Paul Rudolph)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:47:41 -0400
Subject: Sinister: the relevance of cloning in the Magnetic Fields debate
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From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:52:19 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Argh! School! Mmm, Polly Pocket
Message-ID: <d.8d14caf.26cdaa83@aol.com>

Hewwo (i'll warn you now, this is quite long, and all about little dolls),

Well, today was the first day of the new term. Which wasn't too good. Though 
on the plus side, my new uniform is cool, and pinaforey, and I didn't get 
spat on. Oh, but I have the world's best pencil case. 

Does anyone remember Polly Pocket? Y'know, the little dolls, that were a 
centimetre or sp high and a really big choking hazard, and they had little 
houses, with toaty wee beds and tellies and things? (There are still Polly 
Pockets, but they're bigger now, because of all the kids that died from 
choking on them). Anyways, I was in a retro toy/games/stuff like that shop, 
looking for old Bunty annuals, because I sort of collect them, and I found a 
Polly Pocket Pencil case, which you opened up, and it was a house, only with 
lots of space at the bottom for pens and stuff. So I bought it, only I had no 
tiny dolls to put in it. So I went up to the loft, and dug out my old Polly 
Pocket collection, which was massive in it's day, and found four little 
figures, two that looked like me, and two that looked like my friend. 

So I decided that these could be our Polly Pocket selves. Y'see, we have this 
thing, where we made up magical alter-egos for ourselves. So mine is a 
cheer-up fairy, because I wear fairy wings, and I have a magic hat, and 
always worry about cheering people up and my friend's is a dominatrix with 
special powers, because she's all sexy and bossy and violent. So I found a 
fairy polly pocket with red hair in a bob, and wings, and flowers in it's 
hair, for me, and a blone one with a white and gold catsuit on it for Debs. 
And then I found a little red haired one like the fairy, only with dungarees 
and a headscarf, so I decided that could be my daytime non magic polly pocket 
since I like dungarees and headscarves, and I found a blone one like the 
dominatrix polly pocket, only wearing a purple mini dress and holding a 
little baby, because she has a baby sister. Then I found a big grey cat to 
live stay there too, in case the Debs polly pockets go off in a mood and my 
polly pockets need someone to talk to (because they can't really talk to each 
other, because they're the same person really, and I don't want them to be 
mad schizophrenics)

So now they live in my pencil case house, which me and my friend play with in 
class when we don't feel like paying attention. And my polly pockets live in 
the upstairs, which is blue and has pictures of boats on the wall, and is all 
neat and tidy, with a computer and a little kitchen, and my Debs' little 
dolls live downstairs, which is all pink, with a big mirror and a messy 
kitchen and a telly. 

And best of all, I've got somewhere to put my pens and pencils (which are all 
Barbie ones). 

My B&S patch for my bag didn't arrive in time for school starting though. But 
I can't wait till the grungers see my cool patch, which is better than the 
iron maiden and nirvana ones, because it doesn't have monsters in it. 

Does anyone know where I can find guitar chords for Ooberman and hefner songs?

Sorry, if I bored you,

Hugs,
Jen 
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From pixidustlady at xxx.uk  Thu Aug 17 22:45:32 2000
From: pixidustlady at xxx.uk (the original pixidustlady)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:45:32 +0100
Subject: Sinister: um.....
Message-ID: <000b01c00894$c35e67e0$961686d4@pixidustlady>

my grandmother died today.
i have no idea what i hope to achieve by telling you all this.
sorry.
k.

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From TheeXVirus at xxx.com  Fri Aug 18 02:55:23 2000
From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 21:55:23 EDT
Subject: Sinister: wtd . field mice LIVE
Message-ID: <7d.93963c4.26cdf18b@aol.com>

hi . i'm looking for any field mice or other sarah stuff not already released 
, such as demos or live stuff . any format . or if anyone has anything on cd 
that they may be able to make copies of , i can't find any of that kind of 
thing in my area .

sined me .
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From TheeXVirus at xxx.com  Fri Aug 18 02:57:01 2000
From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 21:57:01 EDT
Subject: Sinister: in a band ? own a label ? READ
Message-ID: <17.9df8a44.26cdf1ed@aol.com>

that's a very lame subject line . sounds like it'd have something to do with 
porn . well , i do a radio show at a university here and they don't have 
anything good there . so , if anyone has any of their own material or 
anything that they release that they'd like played on the air , i'll play 
anything at least once and if i like it all the time and if it's just okay 
i'll leave it at the station and someone else will either play it or steal it 
'cause people there enjoy theft . e-mail me off the list if anyone is 
interested .
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From valium_pill at xxx.com  Fri Aug 18 10:09:49 2000
From: valium_pill at xxx.com (i'm done faking my rampages, thankyou very much)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 05:09:49 EDT
Subject: Sinister: happiness and bliss!! 
Message-ID: <LAW2-F256ypKsEgJXOx00003396@hotmail.com>

hiya everyone,

i am very behind on my mail, but i would just like to share my joy.

i FINALLY found rhoda on mp3.

the joys of napster.

its ok..  the quality i mean. the vocals are great, you can hear them 
wonderfully. but towards the middle, every once and a while it sounds like 
someone hit the mic... and then theres a brief pause towards the end...  but 
the sound quality of the song itself, minus those interuptions, is lovely.

i'm a very happy bunny.

there were some people i promised to share it with, under a whoever found it 
first thing. i just dont remember who.  so if you're one of those people 
please write me... i'll do a mass send out of it sometime this week if you 
like.  next week. i'm away for the weekend.  otherwise, since the quality is 
kinda odd...  nevermind.

just be happy for it. i like it.  its pretty.   :  )

xoxoxo
Jes


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From bferneyhough at xxx.uk  Fri Aug 18 10:32:34 2000
From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (Ben Ferneyhough)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:32:34 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: Richard Colburn interview.
Message-ID: <200008180932.KAA14343@brookes.ac.uk>

Good morning all, my mate brought in a copy of this morning's Metro paper (a 
free paper in London) and there was this interview in it, so thought you all 
might to read it. A few inaccuracies in it I think, but it's interesting 
anyway.  
 
Ben x
 
The 60 second Interview:
Richard Colburn.
 
Belle & Sebastian are the Scottish band that scarcely anyone has a bad word 
for. They haven�t courted fame, they�re not known for pursuing a rock �n� roll 
lifestyle (indeed, they barely have ever seem to venture out of Glasgow) and 
they hardly ever give interviews, Here drummer Richard Colburn, 30, reveals a 
few secrets.
 
* The band is often described as �fey�. is this fair ? Are you drippy ?
Yes and no. It�s not fair because that�s not the way it is at all. But, given 
the way we�re put across, then it probably is fair. I mean, if you don't want 
a tag them change your image. If anybody met me they�d have a shock.
 
* How would you confound expectations ?
I�d take them out drinking. I�ve recently been to Ireland and it wasn�t a twee 
weekend. I used to drink a lot of Guinness. I had a pretty cool concoction at 
one point - Guinness with Baileys chasers and pints of cider. I missed my 
flight back because we went to the boozer until ten o�clock in the morning.
 
* How did B&S come to make their first album ?
Most bands get together with as vision of being pop stars. It wasn�t like that 
for us. We were doing a music business course at college. The course had a 
label. Every year they signed a band to do a single - not for the benefit of 
the band, but for the benefit of the course - so people could see what it was 
like to sign and promote a band. We were picked. The budget was bigger than 
expected, so we did an album. Only about 1,000 records went out and we didn�t 
expect any comeback. It wasn�t my life�s dream - it just happened.
 
* Did Blue Peter really refuse to let you on ?
We talked a lot about doing Blue Peter. It would be quite different - a change 
of pace from doing Jools Holland stuff. You�d be dodging dogs, cats and 
tortoises and probably singing next to some majorettes. I think we might have 
put a request in and they probably did turn it down. We even had the thought 
of doing the Eurovision Song Contest.
 
* Your worst ever job ?
I was a postman when I was about 16. I was on a casual contract. they�d phone 
up at 4am and if you�d been out the night before it was awful. You�d hear the 
phone ringing and think: �Oh no, it�s them�. The worst bite I ever saw in my 
life was from a cat. They have the sharpest teeth. I was a snooker player for 
a while as well.
 
* So you were nearly Steve Davis ?
I�ve still got some old bow ties and dinner jackets I use to wear at 
tournaments. I would never wear them again. I won a few tournaments but 
nothing major because I never stuck at it. If you�re going to put 110 percent 
in it there�s probably not much point.
 
* Ever played a gig that hasn�t worked ?
Jesus Christ, aye. The first Belle and Sebastian gig we played was when we 
were at college. The audience didn�t know if it was the soundcheck or the gig 
and neither did we. Another bad one was when we played in France and they out 
us straight after a band called Loch Ness. they thought there was a Scottish 
connection. This band played three hours of heavy metal and pink covers. We 
knew we played the quietist music in the world and not very well so we were 
terrified. But Loch Ness did three encores then everybody left.
 
* What would other band members say was your most annoying habit ?
Not being able to say no. If someone asks me to do a gig, whatever, I�ll 
always go: �Aye, right, magic, that�ll do�. It gets me and the rest of the 
band into bother. Neil, our manager, has to go round undoing the things I�ve 
agreed to.
 
* Your most embarrassing item of clothing ?
A horrible pair of brown Y-fronts. I shared a flat with seven or eight other 
people and there was a drying room I left them in once. Someone went in and 
the rest of us heard a loud shriek. We all came running and he walked out 
holding these tattered faded things. I�ve thrown them away now.
 
* Do you still feel young ?
When I reached 27 I realised I wasn�t young anymore. I don�t mind. It�s when 
I�ve been on a bender - or maybe at a festival playing with other bands - and 
you come back feeling terrible. My girlfriend Louise is a bit younger than me 
and she�s had a couple of knock-backs from nightclubs and pubs because they 
think she�s under 18. That�s never going to happen to me.
 
* Anything that makes you switch the radio off ?
Quite a lot of trance that seems OK but it�s on the radio all the time and 
there�s only so much you can take. I�ve been listening to funk and a bit of 
hip hop. I also like the new Badly Drawn Boy album and James Taylor stuff.
 
* Who�d you most like to play with ?
I�d love to play in Beck�s band. It�s phenomenal.
 
Richard Colburn DJs at the Social W1 (020 7636 4992) on August 26.
 
Interview by Victoria Moore.
 
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From nik_ovenden at xxx.com  Fri Aug 18 13:07:11 2000
From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 05:07:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: wot? 2 mails in a month?
Message-ID: <20000818120711.15489.qmail@web2101.mail.yahoo.com>

okeydokey, since i'm off for 2 weeks, i'd get some
stuff down before i go...

THAT WINE STORY
very very funny...sorry, i cant remember who wrote it.
 i know a good email is one which makes you giggle 10
minutes after reading it, without prior warning.

EDINBURGH
let's say i'll be at the dali exhibition on monday
at...12pm.  sound good?  i'll be wearing pink flares
and a jeepster badge, if you dare approach...might see
some of you there.

TAUTOLOGIES
i am too fick to no wot this means, but i agree there
is a difference between 'seeing' and 'looking'.  you
can look at something and not really register it...i
have this effect on people.
however, it is an oxymoron, since to read it, one must
register it.  therefore, it is already read.

also, it's just a song...i thought they was just
pretty words wot go well wiv de musik...(ooh, i hear
grating teeth...)

EDINBURGH again.
have i got these right?
"wee", "laddie", "embra", "glasgae", "coont", "ken",
"och", "aye".

MAGNETIC FIELDS
i've only got one of their songs.  and i havent
listened to it.

SPELLING
someone (while drunk) mentioned stuarts "sinsietr"
comment.  I have a few more to question.  could a
veteran explain to me since i am now so embarrassed
with my writing to you that i couldnt possibly
humiliate myself further by pretending to understand
your spelling habits.

"grate" - why?  do you think graters are great or
summit?  help me out...
"sinsietr" - um...just a spelling mistake which was
never corrected, or a deep secret buried in the past
of sinister's undergrowth?
"struan" - i admit, i have no sodding clue what you're
on about.  Sorry.

PIXIDUST
you dont even mention my name, ya cow.  why should i
waste my bones typing out your full name?
(sorry if this sounds harsh...)
also...
insurrection (in su rek' shun) - n.  The act of rising
in open opposition to established authority; uprising,
rebellion in the initional stage.

i think you apply to the latter.

latter (lat er)- a. coming or happening after
something else; later, second-mentioned.

Once again, you apply to the latter there.

Sorry you guys.
Also, can i say sorry (not in a guilt-expressed way,
but a sympathy way) to all you scots with the botched
results...the government really surpass themselves
with monumental fuck-ups now and again, guess you got
lumped with it this time.  hang in there...

no more from me for a few weeks...the mailbag will be
slightly lighter (and less crap-filled) for a while.

All the best,
Love Niko
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From nickgillespie at xxx.com  Fri Aug 18 17:40:41 2000
From: nickgillespie at xxx.com (n|ck g)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:40:41 GMT
Subject: Sinister: leaving aweful detroit
Message-ID: <LAW2-F144TI69wK9nsG00001acb@hotmail.com>

i don't know if anyone is interested but i will be moving in two weeks to 
lovely munich germany. i am letting it be known that if anyone is traveling 
and wants a place to stay let me know. germany is a beautiful town but can 
be a bit expensive. so if by chance any of you are going to the oktoberfest 
or are just going to be there; mail me and i will be glad to help out any 
way possible.

on another note. i know that most of you are completely oblivious to 
american politics since you live in england but for those of you that follow 
them slightly i have a question to pose: does anyone care about the fate of 
the united states and the facists that we call our leaders?

last night was the democratic national convention. al gore accepted the 
nomination for the democratic party candidate. it is expected that the voter 
turnout will be lower than ever before. it is expected that less than 50% of 
those people of age to vote will actually go out and vote. this year will be 
the first time in the history of the united states that less than half will 
vote. i think that's kind of sad in a way. i am of age to vote and would 
vote if i was going to be here. the candidates make such a concious decision 
not to have any strong convictions on anything as to not deter anyone from 
voting for them. there is really no difference between Bush (shrub) and 
Gore. in my own personal oppinion i think that Shrub is a slimey bastard fit 
to be thrown to the lions but that's just me. gore's not much better but i 
guess that gore does a better job at getting people to feel good about him. 
on paper i don't think that either are really all that good. so does it all 
come down to this? that the person that we pick to run our country's 
government is just someone that is good at getting the public to like him? 
that doesn't seem right. for christ's sake! we had a president that was out 
of hollywood. how is that right?

i'll stop. i'm rambling. what do you people think?

ng

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From rfadden at xxx.com  Fri Aug 18 20:07:11 2000
From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:07:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: power, politics and, well, bumbershoot...
Message-ID: <20000818190711.20617.qmail@web113.yahoomail.com>

hm. and wow. hello all.

n|ck g mentioned american politics, thus reading my mind...
i'd been sort of guiltily ignoring it for a while (a bit of
a complex guilt since i'm canadian...), but then the bits
and pieces i would see started being interesting (! or
maybe i started to care...) and i began to get a little
antsy and ill reading all the coverage of demonstrations
around republican/democrat conventions. Because the thing
is, this all matters. The world is not made up of
individual countries concerned only with what goes on
inside them; it is made up of powers working together. But
are they actually "working together for a better world"...
And what are bush and gore's definitions of "a better
world" anyway? I see a lot of corporate rule, a bigger gap
btwn rich and poor, and a few band aid solutions. I don't
see any global shift in thinking. but some would argue,
with twisted stats and tv images of californian splendor,
that nothing needs shifting...

And what kills me is that so few people vote. the reasons
for this, well, i don't know. apathy? disgust? belief that
not voting is actually "taking a stand against government"?

yes, so, if we're really looking for oxymorons: "the united
states, land of the free" seems pretty apt. one of the many
things i've read, mainstream and otherwise, is z magazine
online, which has a lot of Vote Nader stuff that has
honestly been the only interesting and sensical thing i've
seen/read/heard about (http://www.votenader.com/). (Yes,
Nader is yet another personality, yes, he is playing at
politics, but he's actually interested in, oh my god,
*change*. i'm sure he's not perfect, but he's a hell of a
lot better than bush and gore. and at least (one hopes) his
presence during the election run will raise some currently
apathetic/cynical/disenchanted eyebrows, spark some
thought, start some action.)

n|ck g said:
>that the person that we pick to run our country's 
government is just someone that is good at getting the
public to like him? 
>From my small grasp of US politics (which an american
friend just told me is better than that of a lot of
americans she knows...), the political system is set up to
do just this. you vote for a personality really, this
personality makes final decisions (never mind that these
decisions are often based on financial backing, historical
influence and your friends in the senate. sorry, that's the
socialist in me getting out.) I don't know, but it's pretty
clear to me that if citizens don't understand their
country's political system, then they don't understand how
to vote (check out the current state of public education in
the US). there's some interesting, and more knowledgeable
writings on this at:
http://www.lbbs.org/ZNETTOPnoanimation.html, read michael
moore's letter especially and 
http://www.villagevoice.com/
as well as miriad others, i'm sure. 

Frustratingly, what is common sense to one person, is
absolute nonsense to another, and we see this all the time,
from politics to music. And we get bogged down in the
arguments, losing the big picture to power issues. But hey,
if mainstream radio listeners are suddenly buying belle and
sebastian and liking it, then there's hope in other areas,
isn't there? i don't think it's all that weak an analogy,
really.

jarring leap in topic:
Is anyone going to Bumbershoot in Seattle on labour day
long w.e.e.k.e.n.d.? because you know who's going to be
there, don't you? hm, oh, only the Magnetic Fields. and
lots of other bands and writers and artists, of course
(http://www.bumbershoot.com). so i must go this year, if
only for two of the four days. i've never stayed overnight
in seattle though, so here's my plea for tourist sympathy -
what are some good places to stay (hopefully nearby the
festival site) that don't cost too much and are, well,
clean? i've looked on the web, but one never knows; they're
all trying to sell themselves or there's too little info to
determine okayness. i'd so appreciate any suggestions,
thank you. in return i will give you huge travel tips on
vancouver and very small almost meaningless tips on new
york, toronto and small towns in eastern poland. 

never speaking in sound bites,
Robyn

=====
I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright
~~~
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From Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com  Fri Aug 18 21:08:31 2000
From: Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com (Paul Rudolph)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:08:31 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Land of the Free
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From ourpeppermintscene at xxx.com  Fri Aug 18 23:45:51 2000
From: ourpeppermintscene at xxx.com (keith mclachlan)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:45:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: my girlfriend has a nice blender
Message-ID: <20000818224551.27496.qmail@web2305.mail.yahoo.com>

i can completely relate to nick's problems, my gal has
an amazing blender and she is such a snob about it. 
she claims to be wanting a matching food processor but
come on her blender is a kitchenaid and that is almost
top of the line, outstanding engineering, and yet now
she wants a fancy european fp, i am completely
flummoxed.  thing is she has great taste in japanese
stationery.  

actually, relevance, i went to school with some of the
dart kids (never heard of them?  look at the bottom of
your styrofoam cup next time you have a cup of coffee
and see the dollar signs) and i was dying to date one
of them, but i was stuck because i was mute in high
school and the only one near my age was a boy and he
wasn't that cute.


nader is a collectivist egalitarian, i know socialism
is fashionable on the list but i like to consider
myself apart from the entitled lot.  i don't want all
hospitals to resemble medicaid/medicare wards. i think
old people are greedy(people over 55 own 85% of the
assets in this country, their poverty rate is less
than half of that for those under 30).  i am a bit
more idealistic and optimistic i suppose.  how silly.

vote browne/olivier then.

cheers
keith m  

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From knightowl at xxx.net  Sat Aug 19 05:04:46 2000
From: knightowl at xxx.net (Knightowl)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:04:46 -0400
Subject: Sinister: among the rubble I notice a comment on nader.......
References: <20000818224551.27496.qmail@web2305.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002901c00993$1256e120$d81fd718@mountaincable.net>

> nader is a collectivist egalitarian,

Say what? How about Nader is the only politician you've got with any balls
and brains. That woudl be closer.

> i know socialism
> is fashionable on the list but i like to consider
> myself apart from the entitled lot.

Here here. We wouldn't want to be part of that dominant socialist elite now
would we. Bunch of bloody fascists if you ask me...........

> i don't want all
> hospitals to resemble medicaid/medicare
> wards. i think

You would perhaps like them to be country clubs with nurses as topless
waitresses perhaps????

(Yankee health care is an embarassment)

> old people are greedy

Young people aren't? (I think its time your dad cut your allowance).

> (people over 55 own 85% of the
> assets in this country, their poverty rate is less
> than half of that for those under 30).

What a silly statistic. Of course older people have more than younger
people, they've been around longer. The fundamentals of America have nothing
to do with age though (Bill Gates is a young man). The rich are getting
richer and the poor are getting poorer. More so than ever before. And
recognizing this fact, you oppose Nader why exactly??????????

  i am a bit
> more idealistic and optimistic i suppose.  how silly.

Curious, but how exactly would you "fix" America?

God bless Ralph Nader!
Now if they'd only let him into the debates..........

Totally off  topically,
Ed









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From DelyM2 at xxx.com  Sat Aug 19 05:34:10 2000
From: DelyM2 at xxx.com (DelyM2 at xxx.com)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:34:10 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Land of the Free
Message-ID: <200008190439.FAA25144@missprint.org>

paul rudolph was saying:
"One of the things I hate about this list is this 'I hate America' thread that
seems to pop
up every once in a while" 

You are right, we have alot more opportunity living in America than some other places seem to have. However, just because we have it better doesnt mean we should feel obligated to stop there.   We are told we have the best , and we should not stop until that is a fact.   

And for goodness sake , there are more than enough poverty stricken people living here in America with no money and no friends.   ...and possibly no trousers..

PS: it's cool to hate America. didnt you hear? loving America is like , so last season.    
  

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From DelyM2 at xxx.com  Sat Aug 19 05:43:49 2000
From: DelyM2 at xxx.com (DelyM2 at xxx.com)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:43:49 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Land of the Free
Message-ID: <200008190441.FAA26284@missprint.org>

paul rudolph was saying:
"One of the things I hate about this list is this 'I hate America' thread that
seems to pop
up every once in a while" 

You are right, we have alot more opportunity living in America than some other places seem to have. However, just because we have it better doesnt mean we should feel obligated to stop there.   We are told we have the best , and we should not stop until that is a fact.   

And for goodness sake , there are more than enough poverty stricken people living here in America with no money and no friends.   ...and possibly no trousers..

PS: it's cool to hate America. didnt you hear? loving America is like , so last season.    
  

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From gogron at xxx.uk  Sat Aug 19 11:48:34 2000
From: gogron at xxx.uk (gogron)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 11:48:34 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Meanwhile, back here in Britain, this is what's on the horizon.
Message-ID: <399E6601.A25D52B3@netscapeonline.co.uk>

Hello
As usual I am in a rush but in danger of relaxing too much: I have a
flight to catch.
Welcome to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland,
Court-NAY.
Anyone going to the picnic in Greenwich?
I shall be wearing my favourite 'out of town in town' moleskin trousers,
old-man shoes and a tattered jacket. And red underwear, of course, in
tribute to honey's third birthday party, even if honey might not be
around in person.... aw. Maybe can be persuaded or maybe I'm not up to
date.
I suggest anyone wishing to test their theories of genetic cloning
should check into #philosophy for a bit to do it live: quite good fun
once you get past the interminable references to books one has perhaps
never read, or even heard of.
Hehe, I can't resist: my stick is thrown in the direction of progress
aligning with optimism and hope: there's too much misery in the world to
be conservative, and I refer not to existential *ennui* but to simple
lack of health, food and water for our nice fellow human beings. Life is
a flexible concept, after all, and I would prefer to see happy grown-ups
with a future than DNA any time.
For anyone who doesn't know already, the highly respected Scots man of
letters and images, Mister Alasdair Gray, Sir, is going to do the
illustrations for a book of Belle and Sebastian song lyrics. After
spending the best part of fifteen years compiling his momentous historic
tome *The Book of Prefaces* the great man is currently up some step
ladders in a wee road just close to Glasgow University repainting a
mural he did ages ago, up the stairs of *The Ubiquitous Chip* (a
recommended restaurant, complete with indoor wintergarden) 'indoor
wintergarden' is tautologous, by the way...

Now I have to put this junky pile of clothes into a bag in about, say,
five minutes
See yas all later in one way or another,

Gordon (Rousseau)

P.S. I've been experimenting with side-on smiley faces:
:) simple loveable
#:D muzzy fringe bloke
@;{} PUNKA girlie
etc.....
(:x kissing person

P.P.S. Wish me some of your speed, certain person #:D an' I'll be right
with you

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From Mouche75 at xxx.com  Sat Aug 19 13:07:32 2000
From: Mouche75 at xxx.com (Mouche75 at xxx.com)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 08:07:32 EDT
Subject: Sinister: some product
Message-ID: <39.90ad15c.26cfd284@aol.com>

hi

a brief note with some tenuous news. i was stocking up on Wrigley's Extra in 
WH Smiths yesterday and came across the new edition of a "Scottish bi-monthly 
culture" magazine called Product (at least I think that's what it was 
called). There's a pretty big B&S article in it, that doesn't say an awful 
lot, but is generally pretty warm. Thing is, B&S are on the cover. Sort of. 
The slip case to the Lazy Line Painter Jane single re-issues. In glorious 
10x8. It's very bright and shines out from the news rack. It looks smashing.

Did anyone know about B&S having a film on at the Edinburgh Film Festival 
though? This was news to me... or did I just miss something on Sinister? 
Apparently it was shown on August 17th, and consisted of promos and a short 
film called Up Our Own Arses. There were some stills in the mag.

Sheesh.

Oh, yeh, the article made reference to the fact that 'B&S' sounds like a posh 
old department store, which I liked.

Anyways, if everyone knows this, I apologise. Only I didn't.

Mouche

PS Watch The Idiots tonight.
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From iaradcliffe at xxx.com  Sat Aug 19 14:41:37 2000
From: iaradcliffe at xxx.com (Iain Radcliffe)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 14:41:37 BST
Subject: Sinister: Ifwhiteamericatoldthetruthforonedayit'sworldwouldfallapart
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Hello peepz,
I'm, like, gonnae be totalement incoherent today (Saturday) B cos I'm 
feeling all those lost hours seeping through my pores...

I was struck by a notion this morning as I returned to my "gaff", (actually 
a country manor don't you know*)that I should give ole FISHYCLAP a try 
again.
So I pressed the spine of The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe in the 
Children's Classic Fiction section of my private library, and lo, I wiz 
transported back to the 1940s, replete with grey short trousers and my mate 
William (or Just William as he insists on being called, the bounder) holding 
my hand in a gay manner (before the invention of homosexuality you 
understand).
So we gaily made our gay way through the cheerful secret cloisters of the 
hidden music library, stopping at the Particularly Eccentric Kate Bush 
section to mosh along to Violin, Violiiin, Violiieeen, Violeeeeeeen!
>From here on, the gaps between the shelves grew narrower and dark shadows 
and whispering tomes gave the broken-mirrored alternative spider's web 
scenario shifted through several degrees, an eerie, if huron or perchance 
superior clammy sense of foreboding and (yes, you guessed it) DOOM.

It was at the Long Anticipated but Disappointing Albums section that I 
alighted to tease FISHYCLAP from it's hedgehog-skinned sheath.
I slipped the fucker into one of the 20 CD players we have scattered 
willy-nilly aroond the secret library and then proceeded to roger William to 
the musical strains. (This was, of course pre-buggery/post sodomy, when many 
people were confused about their sexual orientation following rationing, and 
often had to made do with a sly whiff of Amyl Nitrate in the outside toilet 
before singing Clash songs loudly or indeed softly).
Roger and William concurred: It's definitely the worst album by The Best 
Band Since The Smiths, mais le singe es dans l'arbre et il mange une banane.
I had to disagree. After initially slating the bastard, I hummed along to 
IFIAW and TM, which were v.good, and could easily have made filler tracks on 
TWATTYBUS. The rest wiz pish man! Some ok, but just sooooooo not Stu M. He 
never wrote a teeth clenching lyric before this outing, and Family Tree and 
even Woman's Realm and That Dull One About A Frank Excess of Love, are a 
bloody disgrace to the B&S canon.

Ha!

Well, enough ranting. It's back to the ole classics for me - T and IYFS, 
along with a sprinkling of Elastica and JJ72 this avo.

I hope you're all well, and keeping l'esprit de le passion musicale alive 
and well.

"We live in a land of rains, where Royalty comes in gangs; shat on by 
Tories, shovelled up by Labour."

"Come chaps. The sky is beginning to bruise, night will fall, and we shall 
be forced to camp!"

Jarvis
xxx

*Hey, av ne'r done ane o' these footnot' things b'for, and it's acshully 
quite a thrill. What the footnote oracle says is: "To be stated in a posh 
Edinburgh lawyer's accent, ken - Crawwwford, Sinnclair, Niallll, Dahhling)"

P.S. Blood on the Tracks is AMAZING kaytee!
P.P.S. A tribute to Ken and his hot wok: Vodkas and Red Bulls!
P.P.P.S. I'm soo sorry for this bullshit, but I've had an "Allnighter", as 
Justine Freshman would say, if she had the chance...
P.P.P.P.S. Oooh that's a lot of "P"s! (Quoth Matthew Kelly). "You don't see 
Gielgud down the labour exchange. Why doesn't he retire, the bastard?
P.P.P.P.P.S. As you may have gathered, Withnail and I is my fave film, and 
contains the most eloquent, sad and bitterly funny dialogue of any film 
ever. You think?
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From james.thorniley at xxx.com  Sat Aug 19 16:02:18 2000
From: james.thorniley at xxx.com (James Thorniley)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 16:02:18 +0100
Subject: Sinister: I want my sun-drenched wind-swept Ingrid Bergman kiss...
Message-ID: <399EA17A.E8FEE43@ntlworld.com>

Hello Sinister folks,

Apologies in advance...

I went to see Hefner at the Virgin Megastore just yesterday. They
rocked, and Erica kissed me on the cheek, so I'm still blushing; and I
met up with big Dave, who, once again, told me off for not posting
enough, so here goes...

I met someone who likes B&S! And not off the list - she is a colleague
from my new work (I have this grate holiday job explaining science to
little kids in this little science museum type place, which is quite
twee in itself really). She's really nice but I'm not sure if I will see
her again until christmas or something since she's only working at
holidays because she's at university during term time :/

Mmm, this post is crap compared to my last one. No poetry this time. I
was thinking about writing one about Lauren Laverne, who is my latest TV
crush (I do still love you, Hannah S Club, but you're just going to have
to deal with my new love), but I seem to have writer's block or
something. Hmm, she has a curiously similar name to the subject of my
last poem. Do you think that maybe Laura Llew will not send us a photo
of her because she is hiding her secret that she is, in fact, Lauren
Laverne? Prolly not - that's like my theory that Mick Cooke is Geri
Haliwell.

Mmm, well it's not really characteristic of me to go on and on like this
in reality.. so I will stop now and just finish with a story that a
friend forwarded to me (before anyone goes crazy, I personally don't
view it as anti-american, just anti-capitalist or something like that -
I don't think there's an anti-american trend on the list. I believe this
story was written by an American too.) Feel free to press delete now:


An American businessman was at the pier of a small coastal Mexican 
village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the 
small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American 
complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish and asked how 
long it took to catch them. 

The Mexican replied, only a little while. 

The American then asked why didn't he stay out longer and catch more 
fish? 

The Mexican said he had enough to support his family's immediate 
needs. 

The American then asked, but what do you do with the rest of your 
time? 

The Mexican fisherman said, "I sleep late, fish a little, play with 
my children, take siesta with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village 
each evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my amigos, I have 
a full and busy life, senor." 

The American scoffed, "I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You 
should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds, buy a bigger 
boat with the proceeds from the bigger boat you could buy several 
boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats. Instead of 
selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the 
processor, eventually opening your own cannery. You would control the 
product, processing and distribution. You would need to leave this 
small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and 
eventually NY where you will run your expanding enterprise." 

The Mexican fisherman asked, "But senor, how long will this all 
take?" 

To which the American replied, "15-20 years." 

The Mexican fisherman asked, "But what then, senor?" 

The American laughed and said that's the best part. When the time is 
right you would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the 
public and become very rich, you would make millions. 

"Millions, senor? Then what?" replied the Mexican fisherman. 

The American said, "Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal 
fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with 
your kids, take siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the 
evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your 
amigos." 

--

I think I've gone on for quite a while now, I'd better stop

Seeya
James
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From steven.kado at xxx.ca  Sat Aug 19 16:53:05 2000
From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 11:53:05 -0400
Subject: Sinister: target: USA
Message-ID: <00a201c009f8$3d62d300$3d02a7d1@yesic.com>

YEAAHHH!

(pumping my fist in the air as if in triumph)

woo! jillian locke posted!  she never did that before! woo! yesh!

and then:

symbolic logic on the list again!  not since last fall has it reared its
mathy head! i missed it so for that entire semster that i didn't take it.
but i'm taking wittgenstein this semester so i'm sure i'll see more logic
soon.

and even more:

its cold outside finally!  its nice! you can wear sweaters (or cardigans if
you're all into living by 'the book')!  ambling no longer triggers sweat!

but wait there's more:

i may get a job at an art bookstore!  selling art books!  they made me do a
quiz, and it asked me questions like who was freida khalo etc.  i said that
frieda khalo was the art lady with the moustache.  that got a good laugh out
of my interviewer.  they also asked me 'who is mies van der rohe?'...i mean
WHO ISN'T MIES VAN DER ROHE!?! that's my question.   i know i am. and you
too.  they were playing nick drake in the book store when they interviewed
me too.  and there's a big ol' frank stella mural on the back wall.

that's two exams in under 24 hours.  i just wrote my contemporary
architecture exam last night, and then i got drunk read more proust and then
went dancing...

and the Dead Kennedys came up too....they have been in my thoughts quite
alot.  i've been missing my friend ben, who is currently traipsing about
europe behaving badly with architects and heiresses, but we used to talk
about the DK
quite alot.  and then i read this headline that said 'dead kennedy in the
limelight at convention' which was merely about there being a big JFK theme
at the Democratic convention and not about Jello's latest bid at the
presidency...which was disappointing to say the least.

FRANKLY after just having been on about the dead kennedys its no surprise
that i'm not a big fan of capital...but personally i don't think the US is
on the verge of chaos when (and if) either bush or gore get elected.  bush
will be worse but not actually that offensively bad, it just depends on what
your expectations of government are (it so happens mine are much lower than
most). of course the rich will get richer, etc. but thats the way the whole
thing _works_.  until we blow up the whole thing in a flaming electric jihad
revolution we can't blame the fucking thing for doing what it does.  like
hag eels.  they excrete two buckets of mucous a day, thats gross.  i'm not
at all into buckets of mucous, but thats what a hag eel does when its not
living in another animal's rectum...like the hag eel's mucous, america and
its current economic/cultural system produces a growing disparity between
the rich and the poor, cultural imperialism and invasive foreign
policy...and the magnetic fields...so the us is actually better than hag
eels.  i guess the magnetic fields are 'the good mucous' in this analogy...

um yes...
so that's the end of politics ok? no more of that.  someone just pied the
primeminister of canada, he rides a kick board and wears silly hats...here
in canada we govern by promotional stunts exclusively.  riding the kick
board was a vital and important political move that put him a step ahead of
both joe clark (well, you don't need help to get ahead of joe clark) and
stockwell day.  frankly, i don't see how stock could ever get elected...with
his eugenically frightening image and talk of a 'freedom train'.  what the
fuck is a freedom train?  freedom from what?  from the tyranny of jean
'teflon' cretien?  from the most wishy washy non-commital government ever?
really...i'm sure if he ever won a majority people like me and most of my
friends would be put on different kinds of trains....

my parents watch any long running boring event possible on television.  they
watched princess di's coffin sit on a runway at heathrow for several
hours...so they watched the democratic convention...and when i asked my
mother why she did such things she said:  they mentioned the kennedys...it
was emotional.

somehow i think i have different kinds of feelings....

hey is teri still on the list?  whats up with her?

and i saw the sisters thornton as well...and emily is still on the
list...but quiet...hmm. now that jill is posting i have merely to entice
leslie, ben, and everyone else into the city into clamourous toronto posting
action.  i'm not sure why that should happen...but if it did it'd warm my
heart.

sorry,

s t e v en






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From Walkn10 at xxx.com  Sat Aug 19 17:56:03 2000
From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 12:56:03 EDT
Subject: Sinister: among the rubble I notice a comment on nader.......
Message-ID: <bc.942fdd6.26d01623@aol.com>

Apparently I missed the beginnings of a good round of spats over our near and 
dear Ralph Nader.  I don't know exactly whats been said, but from reading 
Knightowl's last post it appears someone took Ralph to task for being, among 
other things, a really unsightful adjective.  Too bad.  Personally, if you're 
young and not a member of the rich or ruling elite, I don't see how Nader's 
message can't resonate but maybe thats just me.  Apparently, the reduction of 
government to basic logical principles (and the desire to make corporations 
responsible for their actions) seems to be so revolutionary and unheard of to 
other politicians and the masses, that he's already being treated as the 
election's requisite "loose cannon", and as Steven Kado pointed out, he and 
Pat Buchanan will most likely not be allowed to participate in the debates 
this fall (sponsored by Annheiseur-Busch, in all seriousness).  I think even 
the staunchest of Green Party supporters will admit that Nader has virtually 
no shot of winning this election, but their goal is not the White House but 
rather to bring various issues into the public arena and to make people 
cognizant of whats REALLY going on in DC.  How wrong is that?  Just ask the 
GOP and DNC, both of whom are shitting three bricks a peice to keep him in 
the dark.  If anyone feels so inclined, Nader's website is 
http://www.votenader.com....go see what all the fuss is about.
Has anyone ever noticed that TBWTAS (the song) sounds like a pussy-fied cover 
of the Doors "Roadhouse"?  It even has the exact same organ lick pulsing 
through the entire song.  Its not in the same key or anything, but its still 
uncanny.
My band Callow will be on a compilation thats been put together by Sinister's 
own Steve Genge and Amanda Bergman-Genge.  The Lucksmiths and Clock Strikes 
Thirteen are also on there, so I hope you'll check it out sometime this 
winter.  
Well, I hope everyone's summer is still going well...men's basketball season 
is right around the corner, and Mrs. Llew can look forward to 6 whole months 
of beat-downs.  Word up...

Steve C. 

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From pinefox at xxx.com  Sat Aug 19 19:09:47 2000
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 18:09:47 GMT
Subject: Sinister: You can't yet buy one at the mall
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Before these threads unravel into nothingness, a word on the Rod Stewart / 
Magnetic Fields debates. All problems would be solved if Rod recorded a 
cover of lumberjack disco karaoke favourite 'Sweet Lovin' Man'. Miller, 
Casarotto and everyone else on the opposing sides could go home happy. Or 
could they? Perhaps not, for Rod has his own way with covers - just think of 
his takes on 'Street Fighting Man' and 'Dirty Old Town'. He would probably 
start the song with the chorus, then sing the second verse; then another 
chorus, then a bridge that he'd penned himself:

Yes, I *need*
A sweet lovin' *man*
Mama, let me tell you
Aout the love of that sweet man
That sweet lovin' man

etc.



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From magdaboom at xxx.com  Sat Aug 19 22:03:06 2000
From: magdaboom at xxx.com (Magda Boom)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 14:03:06 -0700
Subject: Sinister: Say baby I love you
Message-ID: <BHDNDHOPGHLJCAAA@shared3.whowhere.com>


Dear List,

Jen mentioned having a Polly Pocket version of herself. Ive got a rather rough all cindy doll with its hair chopped off sitting in my room which is my doll me, and my friend, another Jenny, has a brandless cheapo doll version of herself, and a little while ago we took out dolls out with us to the Notting Hill Arts centre and watched them spin round on the dj decks like a couple of retards while Amelia Marine Research giggled at us. Later on, when Baxendale played, Tim grabbed our doll selves and sang to them. And Baxendale tell us its the summer of Hate, but this is a good summer. Weepy train journeys, the most battered copy of the Capote reader ever becoming my security blanket. I went to Prague, I went to Paris, and Im fading fast, but Im so happy, list, as I just wanted to tell you so. Maybe thats why I skipped around Virgin Megastore yesterday and brandished kisses on shy sinister boys I used to squabble with (Hello James, hello Daffy). Sometimes I start to wonder !
how different things could have been if some of you hadnt of come in and out of my lives. Then I tend to pinch myself in the arm and tell myself to stop being such a sap.

amy said:

>that craig david guy is really beginning to annoy me. all of his songs are about his
>sexual conquests! 

Well, I cant say I dont like the boy myself, but last night as we waited for the tube me and hannahdoll re-wrote some of the lyrics to his last hit, as it goes. Met a girl on Monday, took her for a drink on Tuesday, I prematurely came on Wednesday, and by Thursday shed told all of-my-mates. Next time you see Craig David on the telly, look at his hands. Theyre not the same colour as his face, I tell you. I reckon he drew on that beard with a biro too. 

I dont understand people who admire girls just because they like Belle and Sebastian, even if they are horrible snobs. There has to be more to talk about than your favourite b-side. I dont know, I think the real snobs are the boys that think girls who like Belle and Sebastian are somehow better than those that have never heard of them.

Sadly Ill be missing what I think might be the picnic of the year next week as I plan to be wearing a little black dress and Chanel wellies, lying face down in a pool of vomit at Reading festival. Have fun, kids, and remember, if youre wearing a mini-skirt and you slip off a shiny wooden chair in the pub, people might see your Polka
dot knickers like they did mine in Camden last night. I dont think the Time Out crew were at all impressed.

Baby go,
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From knightowl at xxx.net  Sat Aug 19 23:34:14 2000
From: knightowl at xxx.net (Knightowl)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 18:34:14 -0400
Subject: Sinister: among the rubble I notice a comment on nader.......
References: <bc.942fdd6.26d01623@aol.com>
Message-ID: <003301c00a2d$d2928e40$d81fd718@mountaincable.net>

> admit that Nader has virtually
> no shot of winning this election, but their goal is not the White House
but
> rather to bring various issues into the public arena

And this gets at why American politics is in such an undemocratic shambles.
While the democrats (and the media) will allow the republicans to define
Monica Lewinsky's blow job as a topic of serious debate, they will not
extend policy debate to the areas Nader wants to bring forward.

Thus, you are left with a "lesser of evils" scenario, and lord have mercy on
ya if you think thats George W.

Truly a sinister state of affairs........

Ed


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From puntadellapis at xxx.com  Sun Aug 20 00:07:08 2000
From: puntadellapis at xxx.com (Punta de Llapis)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 01:07:08 +0200
Subject: Sinister: human cloning
Message-ID: <000a01c00a32$3d2dfb00$e1d74cc3@isaac>

I'm not sure why I'm telling you this... But my mother died last year, she
had a quick and terminal cancer...
And she's not the only one in my family.
I'm sure I'm not the only one in this list who have a friend or a family
member who died this way.
So I can't help to think if there's a possibility to find a cure by
cloning...
Nobody is telling us that it will be easy, and I'm not sure of the ethics of
cloning (neither of the use that science will make of this knowledges), but
it's a point of light, don't you agree?

Annabel :´)




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From Heffalumping at xxx.com  Sun Aug 20 05:34:50 2000
From: Heffalumping at xxx.com (Heffalumping at xxx.com)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 00:34:50 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Oh!  No, don't be scared....
Message-ID: <3b.8e16093.26d0b9ea@aol.com>

Here it is my first ever post....

Ok, so I could spend a bit of time searching on the www looking for the 
answers I seek, but aren't you all so much more flattered that I ask you and 
not some random, impersonal encyclopedia?  

Here it is...so, assuming that the population of Scotland that isn't against 
theistic belief altogether is Catholic, is the topic of mass destruction from 
widespread fundamentalism ever discussed?  Being from the US, and the midwest 
specifically, it is a daily annoyance I have to deal with.  The common 
denomination (!!) around here is Southern Baptist.  Yes, don't be scared, I 
know MUCH MUCH better.  Yet I did grow up around this.  More recently in my 
life, I am a waitress.  And if I have to deal with one more fat, 
conservative, cheap, high income, rat bastard I will slice my wrists and make 
a dramatic exit right there on the spot.  No, I won't.  Well, I wonder if any 
of you who may be in the food service industry may have these same concerns.  
Religious fundamentalism has crept into my job as of late.....is there no 
escape?  Full-time student, you say?  Good idea.  Already doing it.

I will have more up-beat things to say in the future.  

I'm not promising that.

Go off and see a minister...should be, Go off on a minister....yes, much more 
satisfying.

Susan  :) 
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From Heffalumping at xxx.com  Sun Aug 20 05:39:49 2000
From: Heffalumping at xxx.com (Heffalumping at xxx.com)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 00:39:49 EDT
Subject: Sinister: video?
Message-ID: <77.881a06c.26d0bb15@aol.com>

May I propose something to the group?
I ask first because I don't want to do anything inappropriate.  
I have a little video camera hooked to my computer.  Would anyone want a 
quick introduction of myself this way?  I can make it about 30 seconds and 
will keep it CLEAN.  Promise.  And Honey can boot me if I lie.  
Well.  I shant do a thing like this to the list unless I receive a few ayes.

Susan

It is just for fun, and I just got the thing so it is fun to mess around 
with, you know?  Forgive me for being silly.
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From Heffalumping at xxx.com  Sun Aug 20 06:07:14 2000
From: Heffalumping at xxx.com (Heffalumping at xxx.com)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 01:07:14 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Ok, makes sense!
Message-ID: <f8.205212e.26d0c182@aol.com>

Thank you kind soul.  I shall not post said video. I never thought of such 
bandwidth problems.  Wow.  That would be a problem.  And for such a silly 
thing!  Thanks again for your advice.
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From mbethy at xxx.net  Sun Aug 20 14:23:51 2000
From: mbethy at xxx.net (mbethy)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 06:23:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: it takes 35 tonnes to strike a penny (really, it does)
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From chris_t_opher at xxx.com  Sun Aug 20 19:07:30 2000
From: chris_t_opher at xxx.com (Chris_t_opher)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 19:07:30 +0100
Subject: Sinister: stevie interview and imstuckforaninterestingsubjectlinecanyoutell?
References: <200008130131.CAA03059@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <000401c00ad1$824b7600$5c8601d5@gsh>

<breathes deeply>

now... let me see if i can get through this.

i havent posted since...  <checks the archive> May the.... 18th.
so im a bit out of shape.
but kalliope suggested i had another go, so this is it.
and for a change (for my posts at least) i'm going to include something that
*someone* might like to read.
its down in the middle somewhere, just to be awkward.

first of all, has anyone commented on the guy in High Fidelity who looks a
bit like Moby?
i'd be surprised if no one has!
um. some connection to lots of listees (myself included).
the film's great as well.
i've never read the book, but it was a refreshing change from the usual
made-for-the-cinema rubbish i usually end up watching.

go see it. dont go see x-men.
that's just dull.

a-levels and highers. i hope they went well for anyone that did any.
mine went as expected so im into manchester.
i might still be contracted to nottingham but i think im going to get out of
it.
a shopping trip on friday persuaded me id prefer manchester.
might meet some listees there, might not :o)
email me if you like.

speaking of which, were any of you lot on the train today from Edinburgh to
Dundee?
i saw a guy with glasses on who had a FYHCYWLAP carrier bag but decided not
to talk to him.
he was going to dundee anyway, so i'll expect to see said person at the
delgados gig on thursday night.
and, again, i probably wont speak to him.
ho hum.

speaking of which, (re-occuring theme?) i plan on visiting america next week
and speaking to *none-of-you*
nice and friendly, arent i? :o)

Interesting bit.........

anyway, i was in ireland two weeks ago and picked up a copy of a magazine
called dSide.
not too sure what it is but ive just found an interview with Mr. Stevie
Jackson.
so, here are some selected extracts:

<rearranges desk so he can type and read at-the-same-time!>

"I honestly thought that when we started out that maybe we'd become popular
enough to play in every town. I thought our first album Tigermilk was great
and that maybe there would be kids in every town that would like this. I
thought we could achieve something like The Pastels. It kind of went through
the roof. I don't know why. There's been some good music, but a lot of it
has been luck. And a lot of it is down to radio. We Were lucky because Mark
Radcliffe played our record on national radio the week Tigermilk came out.
By the time Sinister came out, Lamacq, Peel and Whiley were playing us. That
is why we became successful, and that's why we didn't really have to force
ourselves on the music press and try and get a buzz up that way"

then there's some stuff about *selling out* and stevie replies:

"I get really sick of hearing that is is our first chart eligible single.
Bar one, every single has been chart eligible. And as far as I'm concerned,
they're all pop records. We're a pop group! Christ, what do people
expect..... I mean, were not avant-garde jazz or thrash death metal. It is
very commercial pop music, always has been. Its music to be played on radio
and its there fore anyone who wants it. There's a lot of things Ill admit
to, but regards "selling out"... no we havent "sold out", whatever that
means. Maybe we've always "sold out", ' he adds, chuckling.

he says "fair enough" to the criticism about the new album, apparently, but
there *are* some "crackers" on it.

i'll leave it at that.
my eyes are hurting because the print is size 8 or something and i dont
trust my fingers to type what im reading.
just shout if youd like more.
i'll go buy some glasses.

Less interesting bit.......

does *anyone* actually like this new Bright Eyes album?
from what ive heard, not many do. i cant see why not tho.

ah, and i found a Spacemen 3 album in Aflecks Palace so i think i might have
to get addicted to them now.
they made music that i can just sit and hum a bit over what im hearing and
wonder why they didnt think of it.
i like that feeling :o)

and two rare(looking) House of Love singles magically found their way to me.
still not a patch on the field mice or trembling blue stars, but interesting
enough.

anyone going to any Fringe gigs this week?
i might go to one or two but cant decide.
probably because im a lazy b*st*rd.

better stop there then
nice to be actively sinister again
chris_t_opher






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From kittenmouse at xxx.com  Sun Aug 20 19:09:24 2000
From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (Andrea Kittenmouse)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:09:24 PDT
Subject: Sinister: Our Doll Selves and other topics
Message-ID: <F48nuQS150LTvHcnsiC00003e7f@hotmail.com>

hello hello,
sitting around in my pajamas at 11 am on a sunday reading my sinister 
digest.
i've always thought it would be interesting to have a doll self, y'know?
actually for the last few years off and on, i've toyed with the idea of 
portrait marionettes of people i know.  i don't know what to carve them out 
of though.  wood, i guess.
has anyone heard of the punk rock opera the Transfused?  it was written by 
Nomy Lamm, and the Need, and performed in Olympia, Washington in July.  i 
sort of missed it, but they have a soundtrack and it is really good.  i'm 
going to try to bring it to Portland.
later, enough for now.
andrea
kittenmouse radio
(mondays 8.00-10.00 pm PST)
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portland, oregon
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From alexthepuck at xxx.com  Sun Aug 20 19:52:17 2000
From: alexthepuck at xxx.com (Alex Puck)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 19:52:17 +0100
Subject: Sinister: late summer lunacy
Message-ID: <OE30qgyr7owqq1bpzCF0000135a@hotmail.com>

hello all,
did you ever have one of those awful days were you knew what you were going
to do but the whole thing buggered up? I was supposed to go with my friend
to the seaside today in his shiny car, and maybe meet a nice girl I've had
my eye on, but I had a horrible case of general illness, so I'm stuck
getting rare saint Etienne songs from napster and drinking funny smelling
tea my mum made. oh, if anyone has Built On Sand by saint Etienne and could
do me a wee tape of it, I'd be v. grateful! :)
Anyhow... actually have something to say about what other people were
saying.
Really chuffed to see that Amy and Magda aren't totally in love with Craig
David; all the girls I know think he's great, and apparently he's now
brought out an album with which he can continue to make my life hell (he's
been played at me several times already this week). Also liked what Magda
said about boys thinking B&S girls were too snobby and cool; thing is, some
of the girls I know think that too, but it's all rather silly, even if it
it's nice to have someone who doesn't think your record collection is
'weird'.
I also thought the guy from High-Fidelity looked like moby, although I also
liked x-men. sorry... :)
I know how James Thorniley felt about getting a kiss form Erica from Hefner.
Holly Ross from Angelica hugged me and my friend when we met her after the
gig at the highbury garage, and I nearly died. Has anyone else ever met
people they really like?
er... ok, that's about it... if I'm still doing this wrong, someone say, as
it's the first 'proper' post I've done. Oh, and Twin Town is on tomorrow
night, and it's quite good, if anyone was thinking of watching it.
All the best,
Alex



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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Sun Aug 20 21:27:06 2000
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 21:27:06 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Judo is a brick snap
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Hello!

"Seymour Stein"
I went to see High Fidelity the other day, I gasped as Seymour Stein came 
on.. and embarassed myself as I shouted out "BASTARD!" when the guy said 
that B&S sucked ass... enjoyed the rest of the film a lot tho.

As I walked back home one night I've kind of done an opposite Sophie.. I 
felt really depressed cos I was knackered, slightly drunk and I was walking 
home all on my own in the dark and cold, I thought about the film and 
Seymour Stein starts ringing in my head.. "Seymour Stein, I feel lonely.." 
etc was sung in my head and I was almost crying as I carried on home humming 
the song.

"Woman's realm"
I was watching "Student Essentals" this morning because I woke up at 12 and 
had nothing better to do, and it was talking about the usual rubbish about 
student life.. when they were talking about the money and stuff, I felt 
a huge hammer hitting my head, and my brain freezed for a second.

When I came round, I realised what happened.. they used Women's Realm as 
one of the background music!  That's my B&S Sighting for the day.. how much 
fun it was too the guitar was next to my bed and I grabbed it and sang along. 
Unfortunately the landlord was around around when I was singing and she 
probably thinks I'm a nutter now.  Hmm I think she does anyway!

"Get me away from here, I'm dying"
I haven't read all of the arguments on the list but "you could either be 
successful or be us" is not a tautology.  Not if we're talking about 
propositional logic.. but if we're talking about propositional logic then 
we'd be quite sad ("you could either be not sad or be ken?").. so I'll 
shut up :-)

"We rule the school"
But I must add that "Written for anyone to read and to see" reminded me 
of "Sound of Silence" by Simon & Garfunkel, and those tab books thing 
that blind people use to read, and Red Bull.  But then anything reminds 
me of Red Bull these days, I'm sure it's not healthy!

Pretty faces and Red Bulls!
Ken
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Seymour Stein, I feel lonely, caught a glimse of someone's face
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From jmcf at xxx.ca  Sun Aug 20 20:18:41 2000
From: jmcf at xxx.ca (jmcf)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 15:18:41 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Oh!  No, don't be scared....
References: <3b.8e16093.26d0b9ea@aol.com>
Message-ID: <39A02F11.C68CF3DF@sympatico.ca>

Heffalumping at aol.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Here it is...so, assuming that the population of Scotland that isn't against
> theistic belief altogether is Catholic

well, that would be a faulty assumption...

I'm a dual-citizen-type Canadian whose family is from Scotland (Glasgow) 
and while we happen to be Catholic I can assure you the majority of 
Scotland is not. Indeed, post-Reformation pre-Irish famine Scotland was 
*almost* papist-free.
In fact, many of the more fun 'n' bizarre fundie cults in America have 
their roots in religion-mad 16th-17th Century Scottish protestantism.

"Who loves not wisely but too well will look on Helen's face in Hell,
But he whose love is thin and wise will view John Knox in Paradise"

Luckily, nowadays most of Scotland, like most of the Western world, is
pretty much secular and rabid Rangers supporters aside couldn't give a
rats ass about religion. 

I worked as a server for six years through school. I can relate to the
suckiness that is work in the service industry. Endure the fat bastards.
Finish school and then move somewhere cool. Then when you come back and
see the same old fat bastards doing their fat bastard thing, they will
seem small and petty and you'll be glad you didn't slit your wrists. 

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From sgazzetti at xxx.com  Mon Aug 21 08:13:37 2000
From: sgazzetti at xxx.com (JD Stephens)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 00:13:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: Mile 2,992, a bit anticlimatic...
Message-ID: <20000821071337.19138.qmail@web3004.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi all�
As threatened, I am writing from the current end of my jaunt, mile 2,992,
for now, and am happy to be living no longer upon Jarlsberg and
peperoncini, but at the same time can acknowledge the value that travel
does have upon us as individual souls. Ha. Get me on gin and ask me about
Wisconsin (no offense intended to Badger-State-Subscribers, but come on).
So, my last post, and also my first post, was composed in various bits of
Montana, and sent from somewhere in Minnesota, and now I am in Maine,
where the light is lovely and the retail is brilliant and the weather is
as predicted. But still the memories of my trip resonate�
Not least the long and Frappuccino, um, enhanced? night spent speeding
across the Great Plains of North Dakota with B & S in heavy rotation
still. I know for a fact that I was actually visually hallucinating for
much of that, um, seven hour span, but in a GOOD way. I promise. And of
course not in consequence of having taken any drugs beyond caffeine and
lactose and glucose.
Now that I have finished another pointless degree, I feel fully qualified
to apply for a small business loan and seek to open up a poem repair shop.
I hope that my first client will be the admittedly lyrical but ultimately
incredible writer who would seek to rhyme �slag� with �Prague.� I love her
posts, but am I alone in believing not a word of the fairy tales she
spins? They all read like a Mark Helprin story. That�s a compliment, but
then again, no one would mistake his fiction for reality, any more than I
believe the candy-floss world Pauline L. Shivers (her REAL name?)
describes, peopled as it is with mythical, larger-than-life Great Aunts,
heroic I-prefer-true-love-to-massive-inheritance stances,
Adonissian-yet-repugnant-Italian lads and all.

And while we�re on the topic of the unrequited, the Laura Llew poem was
fraught. It both energized and agonized me, the composition of this oeuvre
did. I mean, think about the risks inherent in crafting verse in a rusty
�89 Subaru rocketing across vast expanses of America in the lonely dark.
Just hours prior a mechanic had laughed lightly and said, �I wouldn�t
endorse this vehicle for any long trip�� But the main obstacle to literary
greatness, as in any mind, was internal, not to be found in the logistical
difficulties.

Those of you who may have quibbles with the meter might think of the
opening lines of the Iliad as recently translated by Fagles, or, maybe
more productively (if you can stand it) track 5, vol. 1 of �69 Love Songs�
by Magnetic Fields.

Verse follows. Abort now. Save yourselves.

A Poem, as Imperiously Demanded, for Miss Laura Llew, Composed Mentally on
I-94 Between Custer, MT, and Mandan, ND, and Finally Committed to Paper at
3:15 am on 13 August, 2000, on the Glen Ullin, ND, Off-Ramp:

In eastern Montana
In haphazard manner
I  pondered Miss Llew
I was real low on gas
And the prairies were vast
I�d be stranded, I knew.

Near the Dakota line
Shone a well-lighted sign:
�24-hour fuel�
I exited off
As the car gave a cough
The night started to cool.

I�d be driving all night
So I filled it up tight
And got ready to fly.
I had plenty of gas
So I thought of the lass
But I didn�t know why.

The crisis averted
My thoughts they reverted
To sweet Laura Llew
Although it was pleasing
I could find no reason
I hadn�t a clue.

I was back on the road�
In my usual mode
(a little bit blue)
But the Starbucks was rawkin�
The speakers were squawkin�
And my thoughts stayed on 
Miss Laura Llew

Sorry again to those of you who hated the tautology thread. I didn�t
realize what I would unleash, though I was impressed by the level of
erudition my simple query brought out of you wonderful and entertaining
people. Thanks.

Schatz



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From julesmarkham at xxx.net  Mon Aug 21 08:10:55 2000
From: julesmarkham at xxx.net (julesmarkham)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 08:10:55 +0100
Subject: Sinister: misery and no B&S 
Message-ID: <003501c00b40$22fd1e00$40408cd4@tonygeorge>

hey folks,
I've not been in touch for a while-sorry
but life ain't been grand.
we had this gorgeous kitten that we hand reared from 9 days old, she was 8
weeks old on Saturday. now she's no longer with us. the woman down the
road's jack Russell came wandering into our neighbours garden, spotted her
bouncing around the cabbages and went for her. she didn't have a chance
really, and she died.
just wanted to share, and get it off my chest
thanks kids
jules

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From imn_uk at xxx.uk  Mon Aug 21 10:02:07 2000
From: imn_uk at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?ian=20nicolson?=)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:02:07 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: Gimme gimme gimme it slowly baybee
Message-ID: <20000821090207.5714.qmail@web4306.mail.yahoo.com>

If I was doing this properly I should be in bed just
now, but I decided to post on a Monday morning solely
because I can.  You know, it's one of the great joys
of unemployment (along with insomnia, soul-destroying
boredom and general loss of self-respect) to be able
to relax on a Sunday evening and not have that
sickening 'shit, work/school/college/prison tomorrow'
feeling.  I mean, 'Songs of Praise' has never been so
good... It's also quite fun to go into town of an
afternoon, just to snigger at the office workers
quickly munching down their sandwiches before heading
back for four hours of drudgery.  Because, of course,
I do all sorts of exciting things instead, like, uh,
wandering aimlessly.  And they have money and I don't
and I really feel like getting drunk without feeling
guilty.

For all you sexy Edinburgh Festival goers, future B+S
illustrator and sometime novelist and artist Alasdair
Gray will be appearing (in a puff of smoke, one would
hope) at the book festival in Charlotte Square on
Friday (25th) at 2.30pm to talk about his Book of
Prefaces.  You really should go, cause he's great fun.
 I went to see Edwin Morgan reading poetry there last
week, just to pretend that I'm cultured and
intelligent and stuff.  And a reminder that the
luverly Neil Ashford will be playing his haunting
acoustic tunes at the Tron on Thursday at 7.30pm,
which you really should go to too.

Rod Stewart was always a twat in my book.  I'm far too
young to remember, but wasn't he a sorta Oasis of the
early seventies?  What a terrible thought.  And all
that 'cor blimey, me old mate, I'm Scotland's biggest
fan'.  'Every beat of my heart', my arse!  Mind you,
he'd probably get a game these days...

Some people (Americans, one would imagine) have been
talking about elections.  Being something of an
ignorant sort, all I know about US politics is that
the Republicans are evil and are represented by an
elephant and the Demycrats are useless and have a
thing about donkeys, although this is something my mum
told me and I'm not sure whether to believe her.  Do
people vote  solely on the basis of their preferred
animal?  Cause if they did you'd think they'd go for
more dynamic or even cute animals.  I think Tony Blair
should adopt of fluffly little kitten for the Labour
party over here - it'd be bound to pull the votes.

Anyways, another fun filled day beckons, with all
those troubling dillemmas, like 'go out or stay in?'. 
Gosh, it's not half exciting!

luv and kisses
ian n

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From 50158120 at xxx.hk  Mon Aug 21 10:44:30 2000
From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:44:30 +0800
Subject: Sinister: Hang Steven Wells
Message-ID: <966851070.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk>

Sinister People, Morning!

Morning News:

<STEVEN WELLS FUCK UP SINISTER AGAIN>

Quote:NME Film Review:My Dog Skip 
URL: http://www.nme.com/reviews/reviews/20000808160507.html

"Willie and Skip then get into all kinds of scrapes. So will Willie come 
of age and learn lots of really important lessons? Or will he start 
listening to black metal, stick loads of fireworks up Skip's ass and 
blow him up? What do you think? 

My Dog Skip shits on the parasitic mind-control-worm-infected Stuart 
Little but is really only for very young girls and Belle & Sebastian 
fans. And now I must go, I have an irresistible urge to stroke cats"

Does Steve Well do it to harm the sinister??!!!!!

Hang the fucking Steve Wells. Fat Arse! maybe we should boycott NME.

Toby C
Island East, HK






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From 50158120 at xxx.hk  Mon Aug 21 10:59:19 2000
From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:59:19 +0800
Subject: Sinister: Stars of Track and Beats
Message-ID: <966851959.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk>


There is an article written by me reviewing a club nite in Hong Kong.
With Howie B, Towa Tei, Andrea Parker (!!!!).
It is my first Club Reviews article. and I dedicated to 
Belle and Sebastian!!!!!! Using the Name:
Byss Bistro: STAR OF TRACKS AND BEATS!!!!!!!!!!

look at it at
http://www.dotlove.com/home.phtml?language2=en-us 

However, my supervisor  do some change on my language,
which is tranlastion by a tranlaster from my chinese writing.

I am the editor of the Music Channel and now i have to take
care of the style of this channel..... It is nice, by my brain is
not working very well now.

I hope it can be a very nice music site. And I hope i can
write a review for B n S or even interview!!!!!!!!

Hoping for somethings good is nice,

Toby C
Island East







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From lixibell at xxx.com  Mon Aug 21 18:14:56 2000
From: lixibell at xxx.com (alix campbell)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:14:56 GMT
Subject: Sinister: SNAKES ALIVE!
Message-ID: <F98eYKbCO8tannkuW6W00004ac5@hotmail.com>

diving in.

alex said:
>Has anyone else ever met
>people they really like?

no. rarely do i meet people i like. now that i am no longer a teenager, it 
is high time for me to start being a cantankerous old mong. expect vileness 
from here on in. send me a mail titled 'nastiness' and i'll send you one in 
return, which i can guarantee will have at least 3 (three) insults contained 
within. i mean it man.

isn't this auction idea fascinatingly P.R.I.M.E? whats everyone got to offer 
then? i have vileness AND vile's disease; they can have that.

'either be successful or us' isn't a tautology! who said it was? shoot the 
fiend! maybe it is a tautology now, but surely they were unsuccessful 
(discuss) at the time. they'll always be failures in my eyes anyway.  i 
awoke on saturday morning trying to remember the word 'palindrome'. what 
kind of god does that? makes me have a hangover, and forget words that are 
virtually essential for everyday life? then, soon as i'd remembeed it, i 
recalled the dream i'd had that night, in which tim hopkins only had one 
arm. i don't know what that means.

i've been on this computer all day and i'm starting to feel a bit peculiar. 
yesterday i went on a mini picnic, with my miniseries/ sinisterines. sally 
and i had a pringle eating contest. we both won. in some ways, we both lost 
too. mark tried to coax worms from their earthy hideout. arantxa wore 
fabulous shoes. vicky was the high priestess of Marv. lucy took my wallet 
home by accident. i walked home all the way from camden. there were lashings 
of ginger beer. no, scratch, just beers wines spirits and dough balls.

now, i must let you on your ways. choose wisely, and don't fall into any 
pits of snakes, or indeed despair.

lixi.


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From jasonandreas at xxx.net  Mon Aug 21 18:37:15 2000
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:37:15 +0100
Subject: Sinister: The greatest pick-up line ever?
Message-ID: <006e01c00b96$73d34740$928d183e@default>

This comes curtesy of www.thespark.com



wait for it...


here it comes....

>>>>>If I could rewrite the alphabet, I would put my pants and your eyebrows
together. <<<<<

Isn't it a masterpiece?

Thank you.
--Jason Andreas
Guardian of the Obvious

It is said, that when He saw a weed trying to
grow between two rocks, that he moved one
of the rocks. Later, when He saw that the weed
was flourishing, he placed the rock back on top.
He explained to us; 'That was its fate.'

ICQ: 45821217  AIM: RadioJase

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From brier at xxx.com  Mon Aug 21 18:44:37 2000
From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:44:37 -0700
Subject: Sinister: Chalet Lines
Message-ID: <00ad01c00b97$7a7921e0$729ef1d1@Brier.sb.net>

OK, help please:

What is a Chalet Line?  I know what a Chalet is, and I know what a Line is,
but put the two together and I don't see it.

But then, I'm always a little slow.  I thought it was Stuart who was raped,
until I realized the girl's pregnant.

So any info on the meaning of this term would make me glad.

Brier

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From jasonandreas at xxx.net  Mon Aug 21 18:44:19 2000
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:44:19 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Chalet Lines
References: <00ad01c00b97$7a7921e0$729ef1d1@Brier.sb.net>
Message-ID: <007801c00b97$72333660$928d183e@default>

I assume that the Chalet Lines refers to the layout of the chalets...


--Jason Andreas
Guardian of the Obvious

It is said, that when He saw a weed trying to
grow between two rocks, that he moved one
of the rocks. Later, when He saw that the weed
was flourishing, he placed the rock back on top.
He explained to us; 'That was its fate.'

ICQ: 45821217  AIM: RadioJase
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Subject: Sinister: Chalet Lines


> OK, help please:
>
> What is a Chalet Line?  I know what a Chalet is, and I know what a Line
is,
> but put the two together and I don't see it.
>
> But then, I'm always a little slow.  I thought it was Stuart who was
raped,
> until I realized the girl's pregnant.
>
> So any info on the meaning of this term would make me glad.
>
> Brier
>
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From pinefox at xxx.com  Mon Aug 21 17:48:13 2000
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:48:13 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Five Greaves Left
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Good evening. You didn't think we'd gone, did you?
No, we're back - and so are Bon Jovi.


The Valley affords a view of the Thames Flood Barrier. The erection of a new 
stand will limit that view - but will increase capacity for a club that are 
(/is) intent on going places!


Alasdair Cook is out at the moment. But he's bought some records and I think 
you should get him to tell you about them. They're gggrrreat.

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From e_w_t at xxx.com  Mon Aug 21 16:20:14 2000
From: e_w_t at xxx.com (emily walker thornton)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:20:14 EDT
Subject: Sinister: how fucking romantic. toronto announcement.
Message-ID: <F334MGLoU2gOHpM2yqO000042ee@hotmail.com>





well then,

>...and emily is still on the
>list...but quiet...hmm

you know, being mentioned on the list has been the highlight of my summer 
(that and doing cartwheels on a dusty balcony 4 floors up in the middle of 
the night in athens, greece) and all i had to do was sit around a smokey 
club till 3am. not that hard, really.

but enough about me, let's talk about...me!

no. ok, anyhow i've been instructed to finally put out official/unofficial 
word of an impending club night i am half reponsible for (but not at all 
repsonsible for if it's a bust) which will be taking place in the hogtown. 
is that what toronto's called: "hogtown"? i think i remember it being called 
that. but why hogs? i don't remember eating anymore bacon growing up then 
any other canadians. remember bacon? bacon was good, eh?

i wonder how many degrees of separation kevin bacon is from actual bacon.

but what was i talking about? oh yes, the night will be titled "how fucking 
romantic". that being taken from a magnetic fields song...well, you guessed 
it you cunning little bastards...it's a stephin merrit night! no, i'm not 
joking. it shall taketh place on  the 13th of october at the rancho relaxo. 
all the good dancy songs by the MF and future bible heroes and any other 
crap we decide to play in between. and it's going to be when the weather 
will be getting nice and cold. no, wait, it's cold now. i had to wake up in 
the middle of the night to put on socks! socks! maybe it will be like august 
in october. oh, and it's my last weekend of being a teenager too! so tell 
your friends, tell your gramma, but don't tell your uncle henry because i 
heard he's sort of a jerk.

yours etc.
emily.




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From kmhyde at xxx.edu  Mon Aug 21 16:10:00 2000
From: kmhyde at xxx.edu (kmhyde at xxx.edu)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:10:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sinister: yikes! it was a Toulon
Message-ID: <200008211510.LAA20617@webmail.wm.edu>


i grabbed fate by the neck, wrestled it to the ground, 
gave it a small tranquilizer, and tagged it with an ear-
borne radio transmitter. so at least i know when it's 
coming back to get me- the sneaky bastard.

anyway, preface over, I quit my job that made 
me 'sinister-mute'. Now I am unemployed, but it makes 
no difference, as i am heading back to school in 4 
days; and in addition to this, I'm now a staff writer 
for an up and coming comedy webzine- hopefully one 
which will clog the servers with more than it's share 
of horrible television references and scatology galore. 
but i kid my source of income.

actually, i wanted to ask the help of the list. since 
we're launching 'hardcore' as my boss says, i'm 
supposed to 'tell everyone i know' about the site. 
well, i don't know you at all, but i figured it might 
be worth a shot. we start on the 1st of september, and 
if you like my posts, well...there'll be plenty of my 
articles on the site, if obscure literary references 
and 'oh so pretentious' language style is your jive 
thing. and if not, you can yell at me. i rather enjoy 
it actually. it's the count masoch in me.


right- www.geistmag.com- nothing much to look at now, 
but hey! neither was lenin- all rotting in that casket, 
eww. so, if you feel like allowing me to eat, try it 
out once or twice. like eating mud. 


b&S- he [stuart] does say 'at least you know where to 
put it' in the one verse of seeing other people, right?

very interesting. i can say that to my 
girlfriend...maybe i'll save it for the anniversary.


glad to be back in the sunbeam,
kevin
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From vrider at xxx.net  Tue Aug 22 01:26:19 2000
From: vrider at xxx.net (Vicki Rider)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:26:19 -0700
Subject: Sinister: America, I was a communist when I was a kid I'm not sorry
Message-ID: <006701c00bcf$b23aaee0$93c8e13f@compaq>

Hi All,

I've been Lurking about the country: New York City, Chicago, and Milwaukee.
I went with my dad and had a great time, especially in NYC where I got to
see my sister, the first time in two years. For some reason I hated Chicago,
and Milwaukee I had seen last year but it was fun enough. Then, three days
after I get back, high school starts up again, so what's a gal to do? But
I'm starting my second week now and things are much smoother.
    But at least whenever I'm feeling low about the fact that no one else in
school (except for a select few group of friends) has even HEARD of Belle
and
Sebastian, I can just hurry home and read the marvellous, fabulous,
phantasmagorical Sinister list, and all is well. I mean, what other group of
people do you know has heard of Richard Brautigan, for crying out loud?
Bless you all!!

I read line in a previous post that I think needs repeating:
> "i think that Bush is a slimey bastard fit
>to be thrown to the lions but that's just me"
When will this evil evil man be stopped?? There's a grassroots campaign
among certain people at my school this year; on their backpacks and t-shirts
are hand-made patches shouting FEAR BUSH (www.fearbush.com). So there is
hope!
For someone who is not yet old enough to vote, I find this year's election
particularly frustrating. Bush & Gore's speeches are simply tested and
approved patter that has gotten previous generations elected, so what
they're selling isn't new, excited politics but simply regurgitated empty
promises and fake smiles. That's why we should all Vote Nader, and tell
these "politicians" where to stick their speeches.

Grrrr.

I'm usually not this angry normally, I swear! I'm just a simple Phoenix girl
that reads too much about Andy Warhol's Factory (you know it's getting
obsesssive when you wear that certain striped sailor shirt on a weekly
basis), and listens to way too much
P!O!P!

Idleberry asked: where have other sinisterians heard B+S being played?
The oddest place I heard them played was in this itty bitty movie theater in
New York (movie: The Filth and the Fury, which was pretty
enjoyable). It was playing in the lobby; the song: Dirty Dream #2. I
thought, WoW! NYC IS a cool city!!

I just realized my Galaxie 500 cds have music videos on the computer. Isn't
technology a blast?

Well, I'll leave you all now for greener pastures (homework), and have a
great Labor Day.................

Ciao!
Rachel  W. :-)

"Whither goest thou, America, in thy shiny car in the night?"



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From cdcruce at xxx.com  Tue Aug 22 06:16:15 2000
From: cdcruce at xxx.com (Charles Cruce)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 01:16:15 EDT
Subject: Sinister: hi
Message-ID: <F326yt3cew8k69RKLpg000006d5@hotmail.com>

Hello.
I've been given a voice. Party at my house.
Be there, or be sinister.
CD
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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Tue Aug 22 08:46:29 2000
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:46:29 +0200
Subject: Sinister: Rod 3:16
Message-ID: <001001c00c0d$41a64de0$c998243e@itjfvkli>

My wife was born in a country with a fascist government too. It doesn't seem
to have affected her much though. In fact I think I out-fascist her on every
score. As the man who put the SS in "Lassie", I'm proud that Steven "Fat
Arse" Wells chose to associate us with "My Dog Skippy". Aunt Sally always
wanted to
go to America, but Worzel Gummidge was having none of it. I'm firmly in the
Worzel camp.

I've met Worzel. How's that for mental groupie-ism? He couldn't give
autographs because "I've got twigs" he said.

Yes, Rod Stewart was a bit of a proto-Oasis in his social habits, but I
prefer to judge him on his music alone, which is often like a cross between
Nick Drake and Noddy Holder.

Peter



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From lucyalder at xxx.com  Tue Aug 22 10:23:25 2000
From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 02:23:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister:  Hailstones the size of mint imperials
Message-ID: <20000822092325.23955.qmail@web1610.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello you lot

A couple of weeks ago, before the Jeepster message board went completely lunatic and bonkers and
bore messages from Jason Andreas trying to arrange a meet-up last Christmas, I read a whole host
of messages from people who were organising a picnic on Primrose Hill on 20th August.  I thought I
might go along, but when I read one message that said "well done for organising a picnic without
the help of the B&S Primrose Mafia", I knew I had to go along... and moider them all with violence
and swearing.

As previously reported by Miss Lixi, a fair number of us lugged bouze and Pringles up the hill,
eyes skinned for anybody looking vaguely like B&S fans.  We spied one possible group,
procrastinated shyly for 10 minutes in an obvious I-want-to-talk-to-you-but-I'm-too-scared kind of
way, then Mark C bit the bullet and approached them.

"Excuse me, are you anything to do with Jeepster?"
"Jeepster, what's that?"

Oh dear.  So we got a bit pissed on our own, but it was fun nonetheless.  There was a good kite in
the shape of a clipper ship that didn't fly and a chocolate labrador puppy with its head in the
bin.  We also spotted what may have been a Marilyn Manson picnic.   All in all, a nice warm-up for
next weekend's shenanigans in Greenwich.

Rachel W, who apparently shares email with Vicki Rider (either that or she wants to confuse the
bejeesus out of us all) wrote

> I read line in a previous post that I think needs repeating:
> > "i think that Bush is a slimey bastard fit
> >to be thrown to the lions but that's just me"

and I'd like to add that I think that Bush are slimey bastards fit to be thrown to the lions.  I
could also write something about slimey bushes, but that would be just plain disgusting.

And on that note, I'll leave you.

Juicy Lucy


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From Lorraine.Hosie at xxx.uk  Tue Aug 22 11:03:32 2000
From: Lorraine.Hosie at xxx.uk (Lorraine Hosie)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:03:32 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Saturday night dive
Message-ID: <F0EC21C5F871D41187B900805FCC276642E647@EXCHANGE-SERVER>

Hello Me cheekies

I have a friend (yes I do!) who has arranged a "surprise" for Saturday
evening in London's West End.  Apparently, this surprise is an "event" with
a strong B&S theme (!)

I hate surprises.  I'll end up wearing the wrong shoes or something.

Can anyone shed any light?

Otherwise, I will reveal all to the nitpickers on Sunday!  SEE YOU ALL
THERE!

Lotsa glove
Lorraine
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From paulinel_s at xxx.com  Tue Aug 22 13:30:10 2000
From: paulinel_s at xxx.com (Pauline L. Shivers)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 05:30:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: I've Got The World On A String
Message-ID: <20000822123010.19476.qmail@web6101.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello again,
yes 'tis me... aah... life's been really cruel to
me...
At our last episode.. erm, sorry, post, I told you
about the macaroni dandy my aunt wants to marry me off
to, Giovanni Gregorio d'Arnuzzio and about my cousin
Theodor who I thought was a gay in the closet...
Well, you won't believe what else happened that
dreadful weekend in the country!
One thing I have to say though: big Aunt Myrtles found
out about everything so you can imagine.
So where have we stopped? oh yes, dinner. Auntie has
this obsession with dinner; it has to be served quite
early, like 6pm. So after we finished dinner and after
this episode with the good looking waiter, we thought
with Theodor that we should go for a walk; we watned
to walk over the hill to my friend Althea's cottage
and hear all the other spicy stories about my wanabee
fianc�! In his dreams!!! And of course Giovanni
grabbed the chance to come with us after aunt Myrtles
suggested it!
The bluddy turtle!! Why wouldn't she leave us alone?
So, we all set off to Althea's house to have some
coffee; and of course there was no way we would hear
any spicy gossip for Giovanni since he'd be there as
well... thing is, Althea seemed to be quite fascinated
by Giovanni's looks and she said that if I didn't want
him she would have him! I said "well, he's all yours
then; but how can you stand him? he's so sleezy! look
at these eyes swimming in olive oil! And after all,
you told me he wasn't that *gifted*"... but Althea
said she'd check about that herself! To be honest, I
was really happy with this development...
So, I was quite cheerful as we took the way back to
the cottage... Aunt asked me to play some piano whilst
she was reading and my dad sank in great grand
father's old regency style armchair with the worn out
peach velvet tapestry, smoking his pipe and drinking
some napoleon.. Theodor was there with us but when I
finished playing that Chopin piece that auntie loves
so much, I noticed that he wasn't there anymore...
I asked to be excused and dashed out... I heard some
noises coming from the stables! I tried to be really
quiet as I saw Theodor peeping from the window into
the stables... I went there walking on my toes and
looked over his shoulder; he saw me so I had to make
"shhh" with my finger on my mouth. I looked inside and
there was of course, Arthur! You remember the
gardener! he was standing there in the candle light,
wearing almost nothing, well some pants only, and
having let's say a shower! but he was just taking
water from a bucket and throwing it over on his body!
And what a body! I think Arthur is a fine specimen of
man, or of how men should be... Theodor was watching
breathless.. I could hear him holding his breath as
Arthur was sliding his hand over his shoulders using a
wet towel and a bar of soap... I think that Arthur
knew Theodor was there watching him all along...
suddenly we heard a noise behind us; we turned and saw
aunt Myrtles standing there holding her riding whip on
her hand; she pushed us away and looked through the
window! she wasn't very pleased with the sight, nor
with Theodor's excitement which was almost visible!
She just dashed in the stables and told Arthur that he
shouldn't consider himself as a member of her staff
from that moment and then she came back and told us
that it was time for bed... Did she stretch her neck?
Did her eyes popped out? Oh God!! Yes! Both Theodor
and me felt the colour strained from our faces and
then coming back ferociously... Aunt Myrtles kissed us
on our cheek and wished goodnight and then left. I saw
Theodor dashing in the stables and putting a little
piece of paper in Arthur's hand, then stroke his hair
and then coming back to me... we didn't say a word! we
just went to our bedrooms.
I fell asleep thinking that I should talk with Theodor
once and for all first thing next morning, and try to
find a way to solve our problems and deal with
auntie's authoritative manners... I don't know for how
long I was sleeping when I heard a strange sound in
the room! I woke up, turn on the lamb on my bedtable
to come face to face with Giovanni!! Yes that sorry
excuse of a man, had the nerve to sneake in my bedroom
while I was asleep! He removed my covers and looked at
me in an ecstatic way. I won't tell you what I was
wearing, let's just say it wasn't much! I asked him
what he thought he was doing? To that he giggled and
said "cara, we'll be married soon; so don't be like
that to your future husband".. to that I shouted "in
your dreams, you italiano cornuto, bastardo!!" and to
that he replied by trying to kiss me pushing me back
to the pillows! He whispered in my ear "I like you
this way; my little wildcat!". That was it! I thought
I could get rid of him and be quiet about the whole
incident, but that was more than I could put up with!
I kicked him with my knee, on his you know where...
and start screaming for help as he fell over the bed
groaning!
Theodor was the first to dash in my room; his
bedroom's next to mine, then my dad in his robe and
last aunt Myrtles! The maid came there too, but auntie
dismissed her... everyone was looking at the scene
frozen...
me trying pulling my covers to my chin with tears in
my eyes (what did you think?) and the wannabie lover
(hah!) lying down on the floor holding his... yes...
still groaning! She came there over my bed and said
"shhh child! I'll tell Maria to make some warm milk
for you; everything will be fine!" And me as I saw
this as the only way out from my engangement to
Giovanni, I grabbed the chance and started weeping
holding auntie's hand and saying "Oh auntie, I was so
scared! I never ever wanted to cause a disgrace to our
family!" and burst into more tears! Aunt Myrtles
stroked my hair and left the room saying that she
would see to this matter first thing in the morning!
Next morning at breakfast we noticed that Giovanni was
nowhere in the house! Aunt Myrtles kicked him out...
Maria, my maid, told me that aunt said to him that
that marriage would never take place and she'd rather
die than see her niece married to a pervert like him!
Good Riddens Giovanni dearest!
Arthur was sacked as I told you as she could never
accept Theodor was to blame, and she certainly 
will never as long as she lives accept his
homosexuality. I still feel very bad for Arthur... But
I think that Theodor have already met him in Prague!
Now he's trying to find a job for him at one of those
gentlemen's clubs, preferable in Theodor's club!
That's all for now. I hope I didn't bore you; my post
seems to be so long this time; but I had to tell you
all these, right? Right! Ok, I'm off now; I have a
tennis appointment with Althea!
take care all of you 
           
            Pauline L. Shivers

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she's that aristocratic slag
who lives and reigns in Prague


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From paulinel_s at xxx.com  Tue Aug 22 13:29:58 2000
From: paulinel_s at xxx.com (Pauline L. Shivers)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 05:29:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: I've Got The World On A String
Message-ID: <20000822122958.19426.qmail@web6101.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello again,
yes 'tis me... aah... life's been really cruel to
me...
At our last episode.. erm, sorry, post, I told you
about the macaroni dandy my aunt wants to marry me off
to, Giovanni Gregorio d'Arnuzzio and about my cousin
Theodor who I thought was a gay in the closet...
Well, you won't believe what else happened that
dreadful weekend in the country!
One thing I have to say though: big Aunt Myrtles found
out about everything so you can imagine.
So where have we stopped? oh yes, dinner. Auntie has
this obsession with dinner; it has to be served quite
early, like 6pm. So after we finished dinner and after
this episode with the good looking waiter, we thought
with Theodor that we should go for a walk; we watned
to walk over the hill to my friend Althea's cottage
and hear all the other spicy stories about my wanabee
fianc�! In his dreams!!! And of course Giovanni
grabbed the chance to come with us after aunt Myrtles
suggested it!
The bluddy turtle!! Why wouldn't she leave us alone?
So, we all set off to Althea's house to have some
coffee; and of course there was no way we would hear
any spicy gossip for Giovanni since he'd be there as
well... thing is, Althea seemed to be quite fascinated
by Giovanni's looks and she said that if I didn't want
him she would have him! I said "well, he's all yours
then; but how can you stand him? he's so sleezy! look
at these eyes swimming in olive oil! And after all,
you told me he wasn't that *gifted*"... but Althea
said she'd check about that herself! To be honest, I
was really happy with this development...
So, I was quite cheerful as we took the way back to
the cottage... Aunt asked me to play some piano whilst
she was reading and my dad sank in great grand
father's old regency style armchair with the worn out
peach velvet tapestry, smoking his pipe and drinking
some napoleon.. Theodor was there with us but when I
finished playing that Chopin piece that auntie loves
so much, I noticed that he wasn't there anymore...
I asked to be excused and dashed out... I heard some
noises coming from the stables! I tried to be really
quiet as I saw Theodor peeping from the window into
the stables... I went there walking on my toes and
looked over his shoulder; he saw me so I had to make
"shhh" with my finger on my mouth. I looked inside and
there was of course, Arthur! You remember the
gardener! he was standing there in the candle light,
wearing almost nothing, well some pants only, and
having let's say a shower! but he was just taking
water from a bucket and throwing it over on his body!
And what a body! I think Arthur is a fine specimen of
man, or of how men should be... Theodor was watching
breathless.. I could hear him holding his breath as
Arthur was sliding his hand over his shoulders using a
wet towel and a bar of soap... I think that Arthur
knew Theodor was there watching him all along...
suddenly we heard a noise behind us; we turned and saw
aunt Myrtles standing there holding her riding whip on
her hand; she pushed us away and looked through the
window! she wasn't very pleased with the sight, nor
with Theodor's excitement which was almost visible!
She just dashed in the stables and told Arthur that he
shouldn't consider himself as a member of her staff
from that moment and then she came back and told us
that it was time for bed... Did she stretch her neck?
Did her eyes popped out? Oh God!! Yes! Both Theodor
and me felt the colour strained from our faces and
then coming back ferociously... Aunt Myrtles kissed us
on our cheek and wished goodnight and then left. I saw
Theodor dashing in the stables and putting a little
piece of paper in Arthur's hand, then stroke his hair
and then coming back to me... we didn't say a word! we
just went to our bedrooms.
I fell asleep thinking that I should talk with Theodor
once and for all first thing next morning, and try to
find a way to solve our problems and deal with
auntie's authoritative manners... I don't know for how
long I was sleeping when I heard a strange sound in
the room! I woke up, turn on the lamb on my bedtable
to come face to face with Giovanni!! Yes that sorry
excuse of a man, had the nerve to sneake in my bedroom
while I was asleep! He removed my covers and looked at
me in an ecstatic way. I won't tell you what I was
wearing, let's just say it wasn't much! I asked him
what he thought he was doing? To that he giggled and
said "cara, we'll be married soon; so don't be like
that to your future husband".. to that I shouted "in
your dreams, you italiano cornuto, bastardo!!" and to
that he replied by trying to kiss me pushing me back
to the pillows! He whispered in my ear "I like you
this way; my little wildcat!". That was it! I thought
I could get rid of him and be quiet about the whole
incident, but that was more than I could put up with!
I kicked him with my knee, on his you know where...
and start screaming for help as he fell over the bed
groaning!
Theodor was the first to dash in my room; his
bedroom's next to mine, then my dad in his robe and
last aunt Myrtles! The maid came there too, but auntie
dismissed her... everyone was looking at the scene
frozen...
me trying pulling my covers to my chin with tears in
my eyes (what did you think?) and the wannabie lover
(hah!) lying down on the floor holding his... yes...
still groaning! She came there over my bed and said
"shhh child! I'll tell Maria to make some warm milk
for you; everything will be fine!" And me as I saw
this as the only way out from my engangement to
Giovanni, I grabbed the chance and started weeping
holding auntie's hand and saying "Oh auntie, I was so
scared! I never ever wanted to cause a disgrace to our
family!" and burst into more tears! Aunt Myrtles
stroked my hair and left the room saying that she
would see to this matter first thing in the morning!
Next morning at breakfast we noticed that Giovanni was
nowhere in the house! Aunt Myrtles kicked him out...
Maria, my maid, told me that aunt said to him that
that marriage would never take place and she'd rather
die than see her niece married to a pervert like him!
Good Riddens Giovanni dearest!
Arthur was sacked as I told you as she could never
accept Theodor was to blame, and she certainly 
will never as long as she lives accept his
homosexuality. I still feel very bad for Arthur... But
I think that Theodor have already met him in Prague!
Now he's trying to find a job for him at one of those
gentlemen's clubs, preferable in Theodor's club!
That's all for now. I hope I didn't bore you; my post
seems to be so long this time; but I had to tell you
all these, right? Right! Ok, I'm off now; I have a
tennis appointment with Althea!
take care all of you 
           
            Pauline L. Shivers

that makes sinister all quivers
she's that aristocratic slag
who lives and reigns in Prague


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From p.cullen at xxx.com  Tue Aug 22 14:51:00 2000
From: p.cullen at xxx.com (Paula Cullen)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 14:51:00 +0100
Subject: Sinister: i give you love baby, not romance
Message-ID: <01C00C48.63BA3460.p.cullen@music-control.com>

raaaaar,

i bet no-one remembers me, do they?
you giant collective of nut-sacks, you.

anyway, i just thought i'd write and tell you about some funny things that 
happened to me last weekend.

last friday, whilst consuming a few shandies down the boozer, the 
conversation came around to what   was The Best Curseword In The 
World.........Ever.
naturally, "Cunt" was streets ahead of the rest, what with it being the 
Most Offensive Word In The English Language and all.
i decided to offer up one of my personal faves for adjudication as well, 
although being a little "jolly", my voice seemed to drown out every other 
voice in the pub.
and what did i say?
" I QUITE LIKE COCK ACTUALLY".
hmmm, yes.
i proclaimed my fondness for COCK to the entire patronage of the pub at the 
top of my voice.
i had a few rum offers later on that night, let me tell you.
ho ho, etc.

the night really went downhill from that point as well.
having made the acquaintance of some labourer-type chap, i managed to pe  
rsuade him into lending me his hard hat and fluorescent overall thingy.
i did a lap of the pub in his garb for a "laff" and managed to bump into 
one of our biggest clients in work who is also chums with my boss.
yummm.
the odd bit was though, that he didn't actually mention my attire.
and nor did i.
we stood there for ten minutes discussing business and the weather whilst i 
was dressed like one of the village people.
perhaps he thought it was the New Black.

thats all i think.

oh, apart from this, which in my opinion, is The Best Joke In The 
World.......Ever.

Q. whats white and slithers accross the floor?

A. come dancing.

raaaaar

pawla cullen booze explosion
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From rob_brennan at xxx.uk  Tue Aug 22 16:50:38 2000
From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 16:50:38 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: check out me assets
Message-ID: <20000822155038.12185.qmail@web312.mail.yahoo.com>

(Nervously looks over the top of his lurk hole and...)


Ooo!  Headings!

AUCTION

This auction's an ace idea.  Unfortunately I don't
really have any marketable skills other than blagging
drinks.  Although I suppose I could boost anyone's
flagging self-esteem by agreeing with you all the time
and being a little bit worse than you at everything.

PIC-A-NIC

Ooh...  Bit risky having one on a bank holiday ain't
it?  It's bound to cat down now.  I've been stood up
for Reading so I'll be there if bouze and swearing is
involved.

ROD THE GOD

I've got nothing against Rod Stewart - he gets to
drink and shag as much as he likes and generally do
what we'd all like to do.  What about Ronnie Lane?  A
fine musician who was always overshadowed by
charismatic shag-monster frontmen.   

MOB ROOLZ

I live in Portsmouth.  Apparently we've all been
rampaging round the streets, dragging suspected Gary
Glitter types out of their houses and burning them in
the village square.  It's been on the telly but we
don't have those here 'cos they be witchcraft. 

MISC.

Loved to have joined in on the English Lit. type
thread but everyone is just too cleverer than me.

Think I'll go home now.

Robster


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From pinefox at xxx.com  Tue Aug 22 18:49:36 2000
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:49:36 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Breitner Layter
Message-ID: <LAW-F118kUD5euwdUTa00002fd8@hotmail.com>


An interesting character said:

>>What about Ronnie Lane? A
fine musician who was always overshadowed by
charismatic shag-monster frontmen.

Yes, Ronnie Lane's Cheap Trick - what was the album called again? Was it 
Cheap Trick? I don't think so, I think that was just the name of the band - 
anyway, there was a veneer of sophistication there, no, hang on, a veneer of 
crudity, beneath which lay a secret valleyu of sophistication. I am reminded 
of what Michael Wood (LRB), the DJ at the 'Quebec Curve', said about Woody 
Allen's marriage. I think you know what I'm talking about. Beneath that 
facade there was probably a pretty good illusion, clanking away.

PJ Miller compared Rod to Nick Drake. I like it, I like it - this is a 
potentially vibrant comparison. It might make Nick Drake more interesting. 
Is this possible? I think so. Is it, on the other hand, possible to make Rod 
more interesting? Again yes: it's about ways of thinking about these old 
geezers. Rod Drake and Nick Stewart, that concept has a future, somewhere in 
the past, as WG Sebadoh says somewhere in 'Zopyra'. He's published other 
works too, mind. I'm looking forward to seeing extracts from them on this 
list.

Time has told me that I have still not got around to telling you about the 
Black Tambourines. Perhaps they should remain just between themselves.


Additional reportage:
Rod Cadamarteryyii

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From david at xxx.uk  Tue Aug 22 18:58:15 2000
From: david at xxx.uk (David White)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 18:58:15 +0100 (GMT/BST)
Subject: Sinister: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 18:55:30 +0100
Message-ID: <LNBBIEGADDEMDLPIAGBKEEHCCCAA.david@djwhite47.freeserve.co.uk>

Greetings Listees,

>>Nader<<
Who the heck is this Nader guy that keeps getting mentioned on the list? Is
he an American politician or something? Please excuse my ignorance if its
common knowledge and I've managed to miss it but I've never heard of him.
It seems to me that in America the two political parties both sing from the
same proverbial hymn sheet. Is it really democratic to have a two party
political system? If the two parties were radically different or if there
were more parties to choose from then maybe. Perhaps that's just the way it
is in the most powerful country on earth, where you can vote for any
president you want as long as they're right wing. Introduce some radical
lefties, communists or environmentalists or something and stir it all up a
bit, maybe even make the established two parties do something to earn their
positions. For what it's worth, I think anybody who wants to be a politician
or president or whatever shouldn't be allowed within a hundred miles of an
election because they're generally all in it for the ego trip and not for
the benefit of the people who vote for them.

That's all for now, don't forget you can download Loneliness and Paper Boat
MP3s (and soon Lord Anthony) from www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk

Dave

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From vodkabird at xxx.com  Tue Aug 22 22:05:48 2000
From: vodkabird at xxx.com (vodkabird at xxx.com)
Date: 22 Aug 2000 17:05:48 -0400
Subject: Sinister: I sort in a store and I left my pens behind me
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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com  Tue Aug 22 21:49:02 2000
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:49:02 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Punk Moan
Message-ID: <000201c00c7d$9244c680$ada901d5@default>

Greets,

The subject was supposed to be 10 Python Lee Jackson-ington Place but I Peek
Freaned at the Latest page first, spied a theme & decided to jump on the
Bandwagonesque.


First, a confession to get off my chest. In 1970 I couldn't STAND Nick
Drake* because of the arrangements: anything with strings played on top of
it made me vomit. Music for grown ups. Therefore I leaned heavily to the
Noddy Holder faction. Slayed Alive (where did I put the stress on that
oxymoron?) was a brilliant Friday/Saturday night record, also containing
Noddy's genuinely tender & moving rendition of John Sebastian's My Darling
Be Home Soon.

*Love him to bits now (or at least some of it.)


Secondly, your radio correspondent would like you to know that the 8 piece
Hefner play a session on John "Teenage dreams are hard to beat" Peel
tomorrow night ( www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/ something)


I went away for a week, looked down at Mont Blanc from 35,000 feet & shared
Rome with 2,000,000 members of John Paul II's Youth Army. Feelings were
mixed, looking at Il Duce's balcony with flag waving, scarf wearing,
chanting groups of young people marching by.


On my return I read 8 digests and all my feeble brain could come up with
was:


pixidustlady
I didn't think it took that much effort to get SWells on his knees

Magnetic Sarah
I like that Velocette song too. I suspect it to be their career high.

Mr Magnetic Sarah I (er, Damo)
What IS being planned for DK?

Arantxa
There's no excuse for calling Mark C one of those


So I'd better go,

See you Sunday,

David Moore
Chelmsford, UK

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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Tue Aug 22 22:47:06 2000
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:47:06 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Fairy's Pole
Message-ID: <200008222144.WAA27102@missprint.org>

Hello..

Wow.. I was almost the last person out of the office this evening, and 
the boss guys seem impressed, if only they know that I was just there 
reading SINISTER on the web :)))))))))

Oops if the boss is on Sinister then he'd be reading this then I'd be a 
Kenneth Fired Chicken.. but wait.. if he's reading this, then unless he's 
a saddo who goes to an internet cafe all the time (ahem!) to read sinister 
he is reading it at work too!!!  Haha Boo to you too Big Boss Man!


A joke my friend told me the other day, it was funny so I thought I'll 
tell it here and claim it as mine:

Two tankers, one carrying red paint, one blue paint, collided in the North 
sea, all the penguins were marooned...

HA HA HA HA HA! :)))
sorry

Agent Boom from Magdaland said...

>> I don't understand people who admire girls just because they like Belle and 
Sebastian, even if they are horrible snobs.<<

What I don't understand is why don't GIRLS admire boys just because they 
like Belle and Sebastian????  If they do, then why don't they admire me!!!!
Come on love me you know you want to girls :-)


Yes, I am posting twice in a week.. I think it is the pre-picnic madness 
that is causing this.. but oooooooooooooooohhh I can't wait!  I have to 
go to deadly EmKay that is Milton Keynes on the Fri/Sat before the picnic 
tho :-(  Let's hope I wouldn't have died of boredom before I go back to 
London!

I can't stand much more of Oasis playing at this Internet Cafe so I'll 
stop now.. byeeeee!

Non-oasis records and red bulls!
Ken
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From knightowl at xxx.net  Wed Aug 23 01:53:56 2000
From: knightowl at xxx.net (Knightowl)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:53:56 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Rod 3:16
References: <001001c00c0d$41a64de0$c998243e@itjfvkli>
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> My wife was born in a country with a fascist government too

England?



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From knightowl at xxx.net  Wed Aug 23 02:06:48 2000
From: knightowl at xxx.net (Knightowl)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:06:48 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 18:55:30 +0100
References: <LNBBIEGADDEMDLPIAGBKEEHCCCAA.david@djwhite47.freeserve.co.uk>
Message-ID: <002901c00c9e$6fec5820$d81fd718@mountaincable.net>

> Who the heck is this Nader guy that keeps getting mentioned on the list?
Is
> he an American politician or something?

Anti corporate crusader Ralph Nader. Made famous by his campaigns and class
action suits against car companies. American Green Party candidate and a
generally swell human being.

> It seems to me that in America the two political parties both sing from
the
> same proverbial hymn sheet. Is it really democratic to have a two party
> political system?

Other parties are allowed, but they simply don't have corporate backing -
i.e. big money, so most people never hear much about them.

You're in the UK right? How can you criticize the two party US system? Yours
is almost identitical and on top of it, you've got those blithering old
idiots in the house of lords and all those inbred royals to deal with.

Tories/Labour, Republicans/Democrats, not much difference. The difference
between Tony Blair (is that his name?) and Bill Clinton is one got press
from spilling his seed in his wife, the other on an intern's dress.

John Major was identical to George Bush, and Thatcher was Reagan in a dress.
Its almost like you wait to see what happens in the US and then vote for the
closest facsimile ;-)

Perhaps that's just the way it
> is in the most powerful country on earth, where you can vote for any
> president you want as long as they're right wing.

Oh now don't get too high and mighty. Your fading empire is just the same.

Introduce some radical
> lefties, communists or environmentalists or something and stir it all up a
> bit

And THAT would be Ralph Nader.

> For what it's worth, I think anybody who wants to be a politician
> or president or whatever shouldn't be allowed within a hundred miles of an
> election because they're generally all in it for the ego trip and not for
> the benefit of the people who vote for them.

Well I won't really argue with that, but lets not put all the blame on the
politicians for the lack of change. If everybody who isn't going to bother
to vote - for example - went out and voted for Nader, real change would
actually happen. "the people" have only themselves to blame.

and Judy is a dick slap ;-)

Ed


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From DelyM2 at xxx.com  Wed Aug 23 04:42:50 2000
From: DelyM2 at xxx.com (DelyM2 at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 23:42:50 EDT
Subject: Sinister: A Century of Fakers
Message-ID: <2b.9d6f5d5.26d4a23a@aol.com>

i have been living in the suburbs of new jersey for my entire life.  I've 
just about had it with this place.  i know the old saying the grass is 
greener , but for god sakes ... new jersey really bites the big one.       
This place is loaded with yuppies driving suv's , who are all pissed off 
because they forgot how to pull off a meaningful demonstration.      I really 
dont understand what has happened to these once soulful people. But i truly 
fear the innevitable following of their children.   People hustling and 
bustling about for the nearest parking space.  Their only pleasure coming 
from a chic in tight pants or an email waiting on the pc.         I'm tired 
of cars, and computers and mcdonalds and making everthing "hip".          
Will voting Nader really help.    Is there any salvation?!

am i just another poor sod who will never see the dawn of a non suburban 
community?

Ironically, i just came back from buying eye shadow at Walmart. 

and yes, i know these are very petty complaints.
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From 50158120 at xxx.hk  Wed Aug 23 09:16:47 2000
From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:16:47 +0800
Subject: Sinister: I must be crazy
Message-ID: <967018607.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk>

Ms and MR Sinister!

I MUST be crazy.I       <          >
seems like losing       <  PHOTO   >   
interests in every      <   HERE   >
-thing.I was            <          >
listening to  
S*M*A*S*H last 
morning.I ve got 
a big head ache 
so i played the (  ( ((TBWTAS)) )  )
I smoked my Silk Cut 
Urltra Mild and I picked 
up the 
"Ladies and Gentlemen, We Are Floated In Space BP"
in my messy CD pile
And thing's got better.

My 20-year-old mate said
There is no Worst-Moment-in-my-life
Coz if your are in the "WMIML" than
The things in your life
would not go worse
So, it is not the "WMIML"
And, the fact of life IS
Things are getting worse
So There is not fucking W*M*I*M*L*
When "Judy", "Lisa", "Emma","Joseph",
"Sebestian", "Steve"...and u name it
...... rush in to your life, u can
say to them about this fact.

FFF
YYY
III
:::

my sinister mail address will changed to mod4real at yahoo.com
BUT i ve to spend some mins to do it on the sinister page.



Cheers,
Toby C
Island East.
Hong Kong.









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From david at xxx.uk  Wed Aug 23 14:22:29 2000
From: david at xxx.uk (David White)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:22:29 +0100
Subject: Sinister: showing far too much knowledge about politics to be good...
Message-ID: <LNBBIEGADDEMDLPIAGBKEEHFCCAA.david@djwhite47.freeserve.co.uk>

Knightowl wrote:

>You're in the UK right? How can you criticize the two party US system?
Yours

>is almost identitical and on top of it, you've got those blithering old

>idiots in the house of lords and all those inbred royals to deal with.

Yes I'm in the UK and it's a fair point about the house of Lords but
regarding the two party system, I beg to differ. In the UK anybody can stand
for parliament even independents and you don't need to be a
multi-millionaire or have the backing of massive business to do it. I think
all it takes is a couple of thousand pound deposit to enter the vote for any
seat in the country. It can be very entertaining to watch your normal grey
suited political candidates standing at the results next to a bloke dressed
as a giant panda or wearing multi-coloured clothes and a daft hat or
something equally daft! (I remember one of the funniest things on TV in
recent years was when comedian Mark Thomas entered a by-election and chased
the Conservative MPs open-topped campaign bus in his own open-topped bus)

We also have a parliament made up of at least 8 different parties, sure you
have your Labour and Conservatives but you also have the Liberal Democrats
who got quite a few seats at the last election, the Scottish National Party
who have a few, the Welsh independents, a few ultra right wingers from
Northern Ireland, Gerry Adams and his IRA lot and one independent who stood
on the grounds of being "Anti-sleaze", so it's not in any way a two party
system like in the US. There is also a Green party MP in the Scottish
parliament. As for those inbred Royals, as far as I am aware, the queen does
not have any important role to play in politics other than formal ocassions
such as opening parliament. I personally can't stand the Royals and think
they are all a bunch of money grabbing parasites for what it's worth, one of
the few things I admire about the US is the fact that status is not defined
by who your ancestors were. I also think its a scandal that Prince William
got his place in university before he even got his A level results, yeah as
if any university was ever going to knock him, and the resulting publicity
and money he will attract, back.

Anyhow, that's enough ranting from me,

Dave

www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk




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From dangerousangel6 at xxx.com  Wed Aug 23 14:29:03 2000
From: dangerousangel6 at xxx.com (bela london)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 06:29:03 PDT
Subject: Sinister: sorry had to add a bit
Message-ID: <F174DeqoMIOGCvqQ7Sz00000501@hotmail.com>



> > Who the heck is this Nader guy that keeps getting mentioned on the list?
>Is
> > he an American politician or something?
>
>Anti corporate crusader Ralph Nader. Made famous by his campaigns and class
>action suits against car companies. American Green Party candidate and a
>generally swell human being.

he is also a guy who is going to pull tons of votes out of the two party 
running system this year.. he seem sto be giving 3rd parties in general more 
exposure.. which is a good thing.
>
> > It seems to me that in America the two political parties both sing from
>the
> > same proverbial hymn sheet. Is it really democratic to have a two party
> > political system?
>
>Other parties are allowed, but they simply don't have corporate backing -
>i.e. big money, so most people never hear much about them.
a note id like to add.. although i do believe there should be more than a 2 
party system... it would be very very uneffiecient..  only because with more 
than 2 it owuld take a very   very long time to get around to actually 
executing the desicions (its bad enough now, isnt it).. but as long as the 
other parties go along the underbelly and continue to inflluence  and  it is 
a democracy...   but perhaps the other parties should be equally subsudised 
and allowed to participate i more public debates and get some exposure..  
not just the rich boyees..  but they are doing an alright job on there own.  
maybe they stay more true without all the propaghanda.. hmmm


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From splag at xxx.net  Wed Aug 23 17:31:00 2000
From: splag at xxx.net (Scott Plagenhoef)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:31:00 -0600
Subject: Sinister: showing far too much knowledge about politics to be
	good...
In-Reply-To: <LNBBIEGADDEMDLPIAGBKEEHFCCAA.david@djwhite47.freeserve.co.uk>
Message-ID: <B5C95863.66B%splag@centurysports.net>

Ooh, Sinister, you're so serious these days.

David White said:
 one of the few things I admire about the US is the fact that status is not
defined by who your ancestors were.

Yes, it's brilliant living in a country in which you can become anything you
set your mind to -- even president! Why this year we have a choice between a
president's son *and* a senator's son.

But before all you cross-Atlantic types sell us short, please remember that
we Yanks are capable of electing someone from outside of the two-party
system for high politcal office -- provided they are former pro-wrestling
heels that looked smart in a pink feather boa and a cubic zirconia dimple
stud. (Hmm, is that how one spells "zirconia." I suppose I could have just
wrote "Cubic Z."  That would make a fairly swell hip-hop name. Not a very
ambitious one though; I guess you'd definitely be a hater and not a playa
with *that* handle.)

Why can't we all get behind one another in both the US and UK like Mute
Records is for Looper! Did we talk about Looper leaving Jeepster yet? I
can't remember. Sometimes I drift off during class and daydream. Or doodle.

scott.


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From dangerousangel6 at xxx.com  Wed Aug 23 17:37:36 2000
From: dangerousangel6 at xxx.com (bela london)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:37:36 PDT
Subject: Sinister: enoough politics, what about looper
Message-ID: <F129vEGbRaqykhkGMUh000006b4@hotmail.com>

>Why can't we all get behind one another in both the US and UK like Mute
>Records is for Looper! Did we talk about Looper leaving Jeepster yet? I
>can't remember. Sometimes I drift off during class and daydream. Or doodle.
>

oh yeah.. i just read that...  why is that happening?  does anyone have an 
actual juicy story?  im in the dark...

xxxbela
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From brier at xxx.com  Wed Aug 23 18:47:54 2000
From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:47:54 -0700
Subject: Sinister: Speaka the Devil
Message-ID: <00cb01c00d2a$44b257e0$729ef1d1@Brier.sb.net>

Hey I just saw Mr. Ralph Nader on the steps of my City Hall here in Santa
Barbara.  He's in town.  I wanted to yell "Sinister loves you" because he
has no Secret Service to tackle me.  He's so cool, and very sensible.
Anyone who's NOT status quo gets my vote.

Anyone know what a "bardo" is?  As in Magnetic Fields, "If you're feeling
low, stuck in some bardo, I, even I, know the solution.  Love, music, wine,
and revolution."  I wouldn't mind being stuck in Brigette Bardot, but I
don't think that's what he means.

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From Heffalumping at xxx.com  Wed Aug 23 19:54:06 2000
From: Heffalumping at xxx.com (Heffalumping at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:54:06 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Once again....R. Nader, et al.
Message-ID: <f.877593c.26d577ce@aol.com>

I am simply torn about the Nader thing.  As much as I want him to be our next 
President, I will likely vote for Gore.  This is because in Oklahoma (where I 
live), if one were to vote for Ralph Nader, one would be taking a vote away 
from Gore and allowing more for Bush (yikes).  That is a horrible idea.  Gore 
needs votes in my state because Bush shall get plenty, unfortunately.  Get 
Gore in office, which is better than Bush, THEN work like a horse to get 
Nader in after that.  Is this bad logic?  I think it makes sense.  But thank 
goodness I have that right.  That is the most important part.  I really 
respect the "evolutionary democracy" that Britain has, as well.  
Open-mindedness is so refreshing.  I can't stress that enough.  That is my 
mission in life.  How do you all try to bring open-mindedness in your necks 
o' the woods?

Susan
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From Meredith57 at xxx.com  Wed Aug 23 20:29:27 2000
From: Meredith57 at xxx.com (Meredith57 at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:29:27 EDT
Subject: Sinister: WARNING - POLITICS LURK HEREIN
Message-ID: <60.6494f97.26d58017@aol.com>

I kid you not. Tread with caution.

I am sorry to disturb you with more political talk, especially for those of 
you who do not live in one of these fifty sovereign states, but I find this 
discussion interesting because it mirrors the political angst that has been 
tearing my brain into slimy bits of gray matter as of late. I would love to 
stand up with Ralph Nader and say boo to the business world and, in the end, 
I probably will. But it will be with righteous tears in my eyes because I 
think that a vote for Ralph Nader is a vote for George W. Bush (who, as you 
all know, is nothing but an honest-looking robot whom the Republicans keep 
eager by doling out cocaine in a teasing manner). Nader is very popular for a 
third party candidate but do you think that he has a chance of getting 
elected? (This is a genuine question, because I really don't pretend to 
know.) Or will he just draw off a sizable chunk of votes from Al Gore (the 
less repugnant of two smelly choices, in my opinion). Am I the only one who 
feels like my hands are tied behind my back? (And not in a good way, you 
naughty boy.) It's as if the American people are a large camp of unhappy 
refugees kept in line by a few armed soldiers -- if everyone voted Nader, 
there would be no problem. If only a chunk of us do, then George W. Bush will 
be elected with a Republican Congress, thereby opening up the Supreme Court 
to Republican, right-wing justices. And that is frightening, because their 
impact will reverberate for years to come, on issues from the rights of 
homosexuals to gun control to the death penalty to the environment etc. 

Oh, wait, I forgot (*problem*) - I do not represent the American People. The 
American People want more money and more vacant-eyed polibots.

Perhaps the Green Party should concentrate on storming the Senate and the 
House. Then, even if they do not triumph in the end, they could go the way of 
the Populists and win through defeat by forcing the Oliphaunts and the Asses 
to adopt (steal) some of their appealing environmentalist, humanitarian, and 
anti-corporate policies. In any case, at the end of the journey Dorothy woke 
up, didn't she?

If my thought dreams could be seen, they'd probably put my head in a 
guillotine, but it's all right Ma, it's life and life only.

Yours,
Meredith 

P.S. I saw the presidential candidate for the socialist party on Politically 
Incorrect last night and he seemed like a very noble, compassionate and 
intelligent fellow. He spoke of true equal rights and reasonable working 
hours with paid vacation, of legalizing marijuana and putting drug 
distribution in the hands of the government instead of addicts and gangsters, 
and also of wonderful shiny hoverscooters for every child. Well, hrrm, two 
out of three ain't bad, and it sounds like a dream but it's based on facts 
and faith and not opium. I'm sick of people fearing socialism like the 
plague. No, not communism, socialism. Just a bit. Please?

Second Postscript: My little blue ferret Amy is going to kill me when she 
reads this because she loves the government with all the force of her furry 
little heart.
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From keleidoscopic at xxx.com  Thu Aug 24 02:41:04 2000
From: keleidoscopic at xxx.com (Chris Paluch)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 18:41:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: Speaking Politics and other things...
Message-ID: <20000824014104.23124.qmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello all,
I must extend my sorry for all of those who are not
americans and wonder how politics comes up so much in
a country with extremely low voter turnout.  
Oh yes I am now living in vermont, which is extremely
well, pretty.
I am also living in the only state now that allows
civil unions(basically gay marriages for the
unfamiliar) which is a big deal for those evil
christian right people who are probably into bible
studies and S&M, but not in a good sinister way. 
Vermont for any of those who are unfamiliar is a very
liberal state, it has a significant 3rd party(the
progressive party I think), and probably the most
liberal end of the democratic party.
On the national front here...I have to say a vote for
nader is sadly a vote for bush...though I appreciate
nader being in the race for the fact he has finally
made the green party and environmental and labor
issues a visable part in the US once again.  I give
him major thanks for that...which is part of his goal.
Nader said from the begining of this process he wanted
to move the democratic party more to the left again,
or get the green party bigger...And it is probably
right, both bush and gore have stolen nader ideas,
even the republicans are starting to realize that
people really don't like there kids getting sick from
polution.  Nader is grate in this respect...he knows
he is going to be an issue candidate, and he has a
clear focus, and realizes he will probably lose.  I am
a Green myself, and have been since I was 18...

Oh yes, for anybody on the sinister list from Vermont
or New Hampshire please email me.
Oh yeah i have to write a paper...I am here for law
school after all.

Ok sorry for the politics sinister...you are probably
getting sick of it...

Chris Paluch

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From cdcruce at xxx.com  Thu Aug 24 04:42:54 2000
From: cdcruce at xxx.com (Charles Cruce)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 23:42:54 EDT
Subject: Sinister: showing far too much knowledge about politics to be good... 
Message-ID: <F105eFUtLch9wPiyAph00000210@hotmail.com>

I know that for the love of all good things, this talk of politics should 
cease. But...

David White said:
one of the few things I admire about the US is the fact that status is not 
defined by who your ancestors were.

AND Scott Plagenhoef said:
Yes, it's brilliant living in a country in which you can become anything you
set your mind to -- even president! Why this year we have a choice between a
president's son *and* a senator's son.

I have now said:
can you say "Kennedy"? can you say "Ford"? can you say "lots of other 
dynasty-family names that don't exactly come to mind yet but are certainly 
out there"? I thought so.

Sebastian is looking for a Belle. Apply within.

Charles
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From mikelsen at xxx.nz  Thu Aug 24 10:07:49 2000
From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:07:49 +1200
Subject: Sinister: I'm a kung fu hippy from gangsta city, I'm a rappin' surfer you the fool I pity.
Message-ID: <000f01c00daa$ede23440$106137d2@computer>

Been a long time. Miss me? Astute readers may recall me whining about all
the time I spent tarting up my website in preparation for a job interview
the lst time I posted. Anyway, I got the job. it is my dream job. I'll be in
the Flash animation team for Wendy Pye limited, which make subscriber
educational websites for children. It is my dream job and I have been
buzzing all week. I've been seriously underemployed for the last 10 months
so I was getting to the end of my tether.

Anyway ... onward!

***THE CHALET LINES***
I'm assuming that  chalet line is a line of chalets. You know how they're
normally laid out in long rows.

***NOW, MY TURN TO ASK A SILLY QUESTION***
Was listening to Jeff Buckley's "Grace" - a real evergreen of an album if
you ask me.
Anyone know what a "Mojo Pin" is though? I have *no* idea.

***SILLY QUESTION #2***
(Always mean to submit this to the FAQ page on the Jeepster site) Do B&S
have a publishing deal? Virtually every band has one. For example, songs on
REM albums are credited Buck/Berry/Mills/Stipe, and are published by Night
Garden music. B&S are the only band I'm aware of who lack both writing
credits or publishing information on their sleeves. Anyone know why?

***NME***
Felt a bit sad that Wayne from The Flaming Lips was slagging off B&S. I
could kinda see his point. But then, B&S are a pretty straightforward pop
band. They write poppy songs which, alas, the general populous generally
doesn't care less about. As opposed to The Flaming Lips, who release
multidisc albums which are meant to be played *simultaneously*, cover
"Somewhere over the rainbow" and come on stage with fake blood pouring out
of
their foreheads. So ... umm ... which of those two are more entrenched in
their indie ghetto?

which brings me to .....

***STUART DAVID***
Seems to be trying as hard as possible to sever all ties with the B&S camp.
I wonder if he and Struan are still mates? I wonder if his tour with the
above mentioned Flaming Lips has made him wary of being associated with B&S.
Shame about him leaving Jeepster though. I wonder if Jeepster plan on
signing any new bands soon?

***AMERICA***
A lot has been said about this country lately. So why not have my two cents
or so.

America is great. I've travelled around there a lot. The scenery is
breathtaking (mmm ... Mojave Desert ... most amazing place in the world) and
the people are almost unanimously friendly. I guess what irks me though, is
that the majority of the people I have met whilst travelling there (GROSS
GENERALISATION TO FOLLOW ...) have little knowledge, care or regard for
anything outside of the US.
example .....
"Where are you from?"
"New Zealand"
" ........ is that in America?"
Or the American girl I met who was unaware of the fact that there was a
"First World War" She'd heard of the Second World War, but didn't know there
was one before it. I guess that combination in insularity and mild arrogance
(if it doesn't directly involve the US it's not worth mentioning) really
bugs me. Or how American publishing houses change British novels to make
them more palatable to the "American market". Or how they bollix up UK
albums (like Mansun's "Six") by rearranging the track order or removing
tracks to make them more "commercial" or less difficult or something. It's
insulting. Now I'm sure that these are isolated examples but they've really
bugged me, and have coloured my views on the subject.

Like I said, I REALLY enjoy travelling in The States. Goodness ... it really
sounds like I'm slagging the US, doesn't it. Umm .. like I said, I really
like. I've been there six times. By choice. I've visited about seven states.
American politics bugs me too. Like you only seem to have two choices. A or
B. Black or White. I don't know whether you can really have *true* democracy
when there are two choices, even if you don't like either choice. That being
said, New Zealand has elected a Socialist government under our rather
complex proportional representation system, and they're doing a really good
job of ballsing up our economy and turning us into a Third World Country.

***PEOPLE WHO HIDE B&S RECORDS***
See Wayne Coyne's comments about B&S. Indie ghettos are crap. Beautiful
music is beautiful music. I attempt to inflict Belle & Sebastian on everyone
I meet, because I love their music, and the way it makes me feel, and I'd
like everyone to experience that. I'm certain they won't but the couple of
people who have ended up liking them are now hooked for all the right
reasons. And I can't see what's wrong with that. Exclusive little clubs
really bug me ... it's so fourth form. If you're ever in a record store in
Auckland and you see B&S records on all the shelves, that was me who put
them there.

Anyway, I'm expecting to get crucified for this one ......

Take care, all. And sleep well, where ever you are.

Lawrence Mikkelsen
http://www.akn.quik.co.nz/mikelsen/aboutme


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From CaMo81 at xxx.com  Thu Aug 24 14:12:03 2000
From: CaMo81 at xxx.com (CaMo81 at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:12:03 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Darth Nader
Message-ID: <e2.90a6716.26d67923@aol.com>

    I'm a tad confused about Mr. Nader.  A few weeks ago, i saw him making a 
speech to the "Green Party" (which mainly consisted of aging hipsters and 
health food store employees, but not necessarily a bad thing).  I watched 
most of his speech and it seemed as if he went from the extreme left wing 
(good) to extreme right wing (bad). He started off anti-corporations, trying 
to help out the proleteriate, building houses, all that yummy socialist type 
stuff.  After which he proceded to go completely opposite and started talking 
about, eliminating pornography and violence on television and in the movies, 
all that bad conservative type stuff.  It upset me so much i changed the 
channel.  Is there a reason for this? Was he just trying to sell himself to 
everyone? Because if thats the case then Nader all the way.  But if he's 
going on some crusade for censorship, (Apparently the same one Lieberman is 
into) then i may have to head north and live with the Inuits.

B&S Content
    They're great.

                                                        Derek

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From Gromit324 at xxx.com  Thu Aug 24 17:24:40 2000
From: Gromit324 at xxx.com (Gromit324 at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:24:40 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Once again....R. Nader, et al.
Message-ID: <b9.637d80e.26d6a648@aol.com>

In a message dated 8/23/00 12:06:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
Heffalumping at aol.com writes:

<< How do you all try to bring open-mindedness in your necks 
 o' the woods? >>

Send my brother, a native southern Californian, to Tulsa.  He was a legend at 
TU evidentally.  (Actually, that would be bringing open-mindedness to YOUR 
neck of the woods I suppose.)

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From freezebum at xxx.com  Thu Aug 24 19:06:26 2000
From: freezebum at xxx.com (yellow bananas)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:06:26 GMT
Subject: Sinister: xpress article
Message-ID: <LAW-F20271yEXUIEAOe00000508@hotmail.com>

hello all of you.

xpress, a free entertainment weekly here in rainy perth, carried an rather 
cliched article of belle and sebastian this week, where they interviewed 
mick cooke. there were a few interesting things though... stuart murdoch is 
apparently 'the most revered grump since morrissey'. stuart's a grump?

In four years, with eight members, Scotland's Belle and Sebastian have 
issued four albums and five EPs.

They make music that is oft described as 'fey', an apparent put-down from 
purveyors groomed on a dripped-fed diet of masculine rock and/or roll. It�s 
pop music far from the maddening crowds, assembling it far from the pap 
production line, and they make it with a sense of mystery. Their names don�t 
appear on the records, they don�t pose for press photos, they make 
charmingly cheap promo-videos, and, most famous, their main songwriter, 
Stuart Murdoch, doesn�t do interviews.

He�s relented recently, at least on a couple of occasions, the phenomenal 
gathered success of the latest Belle and Sebastian longplayer, Fold Your 
Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant, making the likes of Time Magazine 
interested in the Scot combo, but, still, Murdoch remains a figure at large. 
And, still, Murdoch remains the most revered grump since Morrissey.

�Stuart stopped doing interviews because he didn�t like doing them, he found 
that he was misrepresented all the time,� states Mick Cooke, Belle and 
Sebastian�s trumpeter and keyboard hand, speaking from Glasgow. Belle and 
Sebastian have largely shunned doing interviews at all. Cooke offers: �From 
the start there�s always been the idea that we want to avoid the celebrity 
thing.�

It�s a scenario that has found glossy, well-credentialed magazines 
scrambling to talk to other people about the B & S phenomena: record-label 
types, folk from other bands, popcultural theorists. With this latest album, 
the band have found it important, however, to speak for themselves. Cooke 
has therefore been doing a lot of talking on the side of their rock �n� roll 
union. �We�ve found that when you don�t do much speaking, then people step 
in and speak for you.�

�I think it�s good that we haven�t layed the normal press game up until 
now,� Cooke continues, �because we�re sort of seeing that now, NME and 
Melody Maker are trying to knock the band down. But since they didn�t build 
us up in the first place, there�s not much they can do about it.�

By shunning the normal avenues of promotion that other pop bands scramble 
over lustily, Belle and Sebastian have stepped out of the carefully 
structured niches of music-marketing. Even now, as their popularity has 
soared, fans of the band still feel as if they have �discovered� something, 
as opposed to submitting to whatever heavily-hyped band is being thrust down 
the collective gullet. And, their fans, a reverent clique often compared to 
the army of The Smiths, love that autonomous feeling.

Since their earliest days, Belle and Sebastian have stated that they wish 
the band to be a reflection of their lives, not their lives themselves. As 
such, there�s a charming obscurity.

�At the start there was an unwritten agreement between everyone that the 
band wouldn�t take over everyone�s lives completely,� he says. �And I think, 
to be honest, if it hadn�t been like that, the band wouldn�t have lasted 
even as long as this.�

Not taking over everyone�s lives completely also means, simply, no touring. 
Cooke chuckles that he could count the bands total live shows on two hands. 
�I think a lot of it comes down to the fact that we don�t have a record 
company telling us what to do, either. We�ve got a very strange record 
contract. Most bands sign a contract saying that they have to do a certain 
amount of promotion. We don�t have that clause in our contract. Which is, 
possibly, a bit of a band thing.�

I think that it�s band that this band has got to the stage where people are 
happy with what they get. I don�t think that�s a good thing, there�s a risk 
of getting complacent.�

On the occasions B & S have played live, there�s been a reverence at these 
rare shows that has, most often, outweighed the significance of the band�s 
own performance. �Sometimes we�d play gigs and the loudest applause would be 
when we got on stage,� laugh Cooke. �And, then, the applause would kind of 
diminish with every song. It was almost like the biggest achievement was for 
the band to make it on stage, with everyone there.�

So, the question begs to be asked, is there a chance that Belle and 
Sebastian will, indeed, one day go out on the road and undertake a genuine 
�tour�? Possibly, but unlikely. It�s a case of factionism.

�Being a seven-piece band, you can�t please everyone,� says Cooke. �So, 
really, we�ve got about half the band that would love to go out on tour, and 
then half the band that would rather just stay at home.�

thank you for reading. all proceeds go to the clogs in the brain foundation.

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From unloveable_ at xxx.com  Thu Aug 24 19:22:50 2000
From: unloveable_ at xxx.com (angela i hate my last name)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:22:50 CDT
Subject: Sinister: i stand alone it seems
Message-ID: <F2747XGeFaatao8KK8Z0000062c@hotmail.com>

its really quite odd to me,
i find that this whole discussion about politics truly
shows how little i have in common with most people my age.
most of you would prefer gore over bush.....i'm not going to mention nader 
because he doesn't stand a chance realistically.
gore who would rather us continue to put all of our money in social 
security, so that by the time its our turn to get some of our so called 
investment back in our old age, there will be hardly any left to pay our 
monthly utility bills.
at least bush is offering a sensible alternative, investing and controlling 
our own retirement money in strong stock options, while still giving 2% to 
our present senior citizens. this is making people responsible for them 
selves and not having the government there to say "we know what's best for 
you, give us your money to do with as we like"
the cliton/gore crime family want to get all the credit to the booming 
economy, and prosperity of america.
yet when they went in to office in 92, 21 million americans had no health 
care insurance. and now they whine that the number has gone up to 30 
million....that's 9 million more people, they have had 8 years to fix this 
folks.....but of course its not their fault.
nothing ever is, the democratic bias media will always make sure that 
anything the clinton/gore crime family will be presented in the most 
positive light.
are you willing to waste your vote again for another 8 years of whining?

i could go on and on about what's wrong with the they way they do things & i 
know you all want to slice my throat with a frozen soy burger right now, at 
one time i thought the same as you all do.

all i am trying to say is look at what each man is saying, think about what 
they each have to offer.


"whoa unto the land who sheds innocent blood"
angela

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From unloveable_ at xxx.com  Thu Aug 24 19:29:12 2000
From: unloveable_ at xxx.com (angela i hate my last name)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:29:12 CDT
Subject: Sinister: i stand alone it seems
Message-ID: <F23131TZ14eBa1kg3Am00000773@hotmail.com>

its really quite odd to me,
i find that this whole discussion about politics truly
shows how little i have in common with most people my age.
most of you would prefer gore over bush.....i'm not going to mention nader 
because he doesn't stand a chance realistically.
gore who would rather us continue to put all of our money in social 
security, so that by the time its our turn to get some of our so called 
investment back in our old age, there will be hardly any left to pay our 
monthly utility bills.
at least bush is offering a sensible alternative, investing and controlling 
our own retirement money in strong stock options, while still giving 2% to 
our present senior citizens. this is making people responsible for them 
selves and not having the government there to say "we know what's best for 
you, give us your money to do with as we like"
the cliton/gore crime family want to get all the credit to the booming 
economy, and prosperity of america.
yet when they went in to office in 92, 21 million americans had no health 
care insurance. and now they whine that the number has gone up to 30 
million....that's 9 million more people, they have had 8 years to fix this 
folks.....but of course its not their fault.
nothing ever is, the democratic bias media will always make sure that 
anything the clinton/gore crime family will be presented in the most 
positive light.
are you willing to waste your vote again for another 8 years of whining?

i could go on and on about what's wrong with the they way they do things & i 
know you all want to slice my throat with a frozen soy burger right now, at 
one time i thought the same as you all do.

all i am trying to say is look at what each man is saying, think about what 
they each have to offer.


"whoa unto the land who sheds innocent blood"
angela

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From LunaLilly at xxx.com  Thu Aug 24 20:27:45 2000
From: LunaLilly at xxx.com (LunaLilly at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:27:45 EDT
Subject: Sinister: staying afloat
Message-ID: <15.87a100a.26d6d131@aol.com>

Hi, 
      
    Isn't it so awful when you talk to somone you love and you can hear them 
being completely irrational.....and you can't do anything about it? Sometimes 
I think we have to simply detach ourselves. I think 5 years of hurt is enough 
for one girl. I keep saying I will walk away....and then the words that are 
said capture my heart again. Anyway. I had a lovely day. I went for a drive 
in the country after work. It was so beautiful. I listened to Lazy Line 
Painter Jane over and over. The thing about America kids....one of the things 
I should say....is that people don't take time to look around them. I think 
that's true of most places actually. But since I live in America.....well I 
really notice it here. I mean.....I live in Omaha, Nebraska....
farming country in otherwords. People here have no appreciation for the 
beauty of the land surrounding out city
     
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From LunaLilly at xxx.com  Thu Aug 24 20:37:58 2000
From: LunaLilly at xxx.com (LunaLilly at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:37:58 EDT
Subject: Sinister: grrrr
Message-ID: <5b.a7f600c.26d6d396@aol.com>

as I was saying before I hit the wrong button.....no one ever looks at the 
land and think...."ok this is wonderful.....how can we protect it?" No, it's 
all about "oh I think 
we need another sub division or another shopping strip and maybe a big nasty 
golf course...which is just another place we can go to hide out from our kids 
and out wives." It sickens me. And it's nice y'know to farm and all 
that....but it;s not like the corn or soy they are growing is really being 
used for anything advantageous.....it's being used to feel livestock 
usually...which is sucking up our water and so on. I just wish the grains 
were being sent to countries like India and Africa to feed the babies and 
children. But no.....while the corporate bastards are out boinking there 
secretary...there children are home playing video games and drinking 
pop......which will soon be exchanged for porn and beer. It's all so icky. 
Ok....I'm sorry. I needn't have gone on like that. It was quite rude of me. I 
hope none of you read that. It has been enjoyable to read all the posts on 
Politicians. It's nice to hear what you all have to say. I wish I had some 
fun Belle and Sebastian info. All I can say is that I wish I was rich so I 
could take Stuart in the auction. Oh well. I'm off to the library. Sorry 
again for my rant. Love, Olivia
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From clarkph at xxx.com  Thu Aug 24 20:51:07 2000
From: clarkph at xxx.com (Clark, Patricia H)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:51:07 -0500
Subject: Sinister: staying afloat
Message-ID: <D53215B582D2D2118F580008C7B1AB4701AD80F7@amhoux9.hou.am.bp.com>

Hi there everyone - this is my first posting and as a scottish person living
in Texas, I've had to stop listening to NPR to get away from all the cliched
politics which we're being hit with at the moment - it's all one big
frustration!

Anyway, are there any belles or sebastians around Houston who would care to
arrange a pic-a-nic of our own, or am I to be alone with my wicker hamper??

B&S claim to fame - that Chris Geddes guy was in my Physics -1A and 2A
classes at Glasgow uni if my memory serves me well....


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From low_fi25 at xxx.com  Thu Aug 24 22:58:13 2000
From: low_fi25 at xxx.com (Jacob Laurent)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:58:13 GMT
Subject: Sinister: i stand alone it seems
Message-ID: <F265m15k4R9xC2pKFRy0000096c@hotmail.com>


>all i am trying to say is look at what each man is saying, think about what
>they each have to offer.

  hi angela.

i think you have a good point about
casting an educated vote. i also think
that there is more than money at stake
when considering a candidate.

like who's values are more congruous with
my own. as someone who identifies as queer,
punk, *and* a feminist i want whoever i vote
for to maintain reproductive rights, and fight
for the rights of mine and others as we are
promised within the framework of the 14th
ammendment but categorically denied by law and
custom. and that's a minimum. i also want to see
positive attitudes towards sex industry workers,
equal rights for trannies, drugs legalised, and
fair treatment for people who are economically
underprivleged.

i just don't feel like george bush is that
champion.

yrs,
jacob











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From bellezc at xxx.com  Fri Aug 25 02:53:35 2000
From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 01:53:35 GMT
Subject: Sinister: 4:43am
Message-ID: <F8T456UnHAaaz7EjQxz00000077@hotmail.com>

Hello everyone...
I haven't been around for a while.It's been a long time.
I feel bad about it believe it or not.Greece and Ireland took me away and 
made me forget my dreams...hmm,well i wouldn't go that far.But yeah in a way 
my Belle and Sebastian dreams were forgotten.Sighs...I have kind of lost two 
good friends as well,Vel and George...I have missed them.I haven't been in 
touch with them and it's my fault,sorry guys...so sorry.And i have missed 
the list as well and my ravings in here over totally silly stuff...
I am happy Vel will finally make it to England.She deserves it and even 
though I have been a bastard to her,I love her to bits...drink for me too in 
the pic-nic dear....and GHD...ah,splendid indeed....:)
And i miss all the people that don't really know me but they are who make 
this place I love so....
I don't know...it's late and I got sentimental...
nothing more nothing less...
sighs and sighs again...
take care evryone
see ya around
ZOE....

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From margarita at xxx.com  Fri Aug 25 03:23:33 2000
From: margarita at xxx.com (triumphant loser)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:23:33 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Government doesnt work....who cares?
Message-ID: <000701c00e3b$77fe7cc0$1c8ffacf@oemcomputer>

Oh pish-posh, all this talk of politics has left me somewhat drained.People
like to put faith in a failing system run by corrupt mean who like to
lie.....what a gas!Could anything be so sad?How can you listen to either
Gore or Bush and really think they are telling it to you straight?Hidden
agendas and power trips is what you are buying.....and no i dont vote, i
dont cast my lot with a bunch of insincere power hungry men.People like to
say, in a ever so smug way "If you dont vote, dont bitch, and dont
complain.....if you arent part of the solution you are the problem".What a
load of hot steamy cow pie!Well my misguided friends, government is the
problem and you vote......just to keep it all going again.....it seems thats
the problem.Fuel for the machine is what you are, and will eat you , limbs
and all.


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From ThisSuffering at xxx.com  Fri Aug 25 04:36:25 2000
From: ThisSuffering at xxx.com (ThisSuffering at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 23:36:25 EDT
Subject: Sinister: happy days are here again..
Message-ID: <a6.8a4a2f1.26d743b9@aol.com>

dearest sinisterees

how are you all, its been so long between posts, and i see so many new 
people, that i feel left out.

i thought i'd go ahead, and catch up on all the gossip, and talk..

today i went for a job interview, and i hope to heaven i get it.  its at the 
virgin megastore, but hey it's a job, and the best part about it,  they have 
a huge belle and sebbie poster, that i would just love to take home, and put 
behind my bed.

other than that..  if any of you are bored and want to talk sinisterly.. feel 
free to find me..
my AIM is this suffering, and if you're willing, i'm talkin..

cheers all
carlos
xoxo
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From NeoSleeze at xxx.com  Fri Aug 25 05:21:53 2000
From: NeoSleeze at xxx.com (NeoSleeze at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 00:21:53 EDT
Subject: Sinister: All systems go...
Message-ID: <70.277b337.26d74e61@aol.com>


Sinista...
Hmmm, well I've been in the lil playpin thing for 2 months, but I guess I 
never got my invitation letter...
So I'm gonna try to post.
Ok well my Introduction is simple.

I'm Richard
I like Belle & Sebastian
Will you be my friend?

It's so hard to find good music these days...
blast the radio! blast MTV! (In the USA anyway)
So if anyone gots any suggestions..tell me :P
I'm kinda in this SweetLoveyWhispyKitchsySixtiesSoundingGroovy mood... and I 
need satisfaction!

Ok lots of love to all you kids.
Richard
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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com  Fri Aug 25 07:47:51 2000
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 07:47:51 +0100
Subject: Sinister: I'm So Bored Of The USA
Message-ID: <000001c00e60$83396580$3f337bd5@default>

Hi Pop Picners,

Happy Birthday to you!
Happy Birthday to you!
Happy Birthday dear Stuart Murdoch
Happy Birthday to you!

Have a great day, I hope you receive some pleasant presents & go out & get
pissed with some friends.


Oh, and thanks. :)

Love,

David Moore
Chelmsford, UK

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From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk  Fri Aug 25 12:28:39 2000
From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk (Elizabeth Daplyn)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 12:28:39 +0100
Subject: Sinister: the miller's tale
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Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:41:05 +0100
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From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com  Fri Aug 25 18:12:34 2000
From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6 at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 13:12:34 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #252
Message-ID: <ac.9b04e57.26d80302@aol.com>

<< I would love to 
stand up with Ralph Nader and say boo to the business world and, in the end, 
 I probably will. But it will be with righteous tears in my eyes because I 
 think that a vote for Ralph Nader is a vote for George W. Bush  >>

Nadar has addressed the idea of the Spoiler several times.  To Nadar, the 
Republican and Democratic parties are so similiar at this point that he 
doesn't really see it making much difference who wins out of Bush and Gore. 
His issues are in opposition to views shared by "Bore and Gush."  The concern 
about how Gore and Bush will vary on supreme court appointments is an 
exageration, so says Nadar. If Bush attempts to appoint members to the court 
that might overturn Roe vs. Wade, it will backfire so drastically, public 
outcry and mass protest will be heard so loudly, that ultimately it will 
never happen.  I tend to agree with this.  The recent debate over stem cell 
research highlights for us again that the majority of americans view the 
pro-life movement to be a block of everything from basic rights issues to 
issues of scientific progress.  I think Nadar is saying, look you can elect 
Gore and the environment will continue to be mistreated at the current and 
dangerous rate, the global corporations will continue to press their agenda's 
beyond the control of all forms of regulation, etc; or you can elect Bush and 
things will be just as bad, probably much worse (today in the NY Times Cheney 
is saying how all the National Monuments and Parks that Clinton established 
in the West these past 8 years should be seriously reviewed for the purpose 
of removing their current protected status).  This is the "worse of two 
evils," notion.  What Nadar is saying is, let's send a powerful message from 
the Left. Nadar knows he can't win. But he does know that every major 
political movement in america has come from a 3rd Party influence, from the 
abolition movement to the civil rights movement, the two party system only 
opens to change when they see their own membership and popularity begin to 
drain towards a third party idea.  This is what Nadar ultimately hopes to 
achieve; he hopes that by pulling 10-15% of the vote this election, he can 
pull the collective head from the collective ass of the democratic and 
republican parties.  That issues like campaign finance reform and the 
environment getting kicked in the teeth by the WTO will stop.





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From jiffy_popper at xxx.com  Fri Aug 25 18:26:07 2000
From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 13:26:07 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Shimmy Shimmy cocoa wha listen to it now
Message-ID: <F48yLridnGiAw8HQEUE000006a5@hotmail.com>

So many birthday celebrations.It's my mummys and the scrumptious Struans and 
soon the brithday of Sinister itself.Plus I turned 18 a few days ago.Yay!I 
think this is like my fourth birthday on the list.See,I just can't get 
enough of you sinisterines.Don't I receive reward like a 
smothered-in-sweetness Stuart jumping out of a cake kind of thing? I hope 
you all had nice summers,probably travelling all over the world! I went 
to...Michigan.It's all good though.American boys amuse me.Well I can't speak 
for them all,but just that particular state,and the ones that work at 
Blockbuster.People just get too excited around Canadians.We can't help being 
so wild,you know. "Can you sing Jumper for me in french?" "What is this 
Jumper?" "Woah dude.. don't you have like Third Eye Blind in Canada!?!" And 
then it gets to talk of milk bags and aboot and theres no saving them.

I wish the Marijuana Party would take over polotics..or am I confusing it 
with the Natural Law? Its the ones who want to defend the earth by 
yogi-bouncing towards the attackers..thats who I want.Dude! Boys who say 
'dude' make me giggle.Like this odd little rickshaw runner who yelled out 
'Dude! It's the Charlie's Angels!' at me and my two friends yesterday.I 
guess that means it's time to update my hair (famous watson feathered 
perm,we've had such such good times,mmm) and leave the painted-on flares in 
the dust.But anyways,why aren't we doing bosom poems anymore? Even though I 
am an adult now,I will still be juvenile for a while.(I will be a real adult 
when I go to Europe,cut all my hair off and meet weird men) I liked Martin 
and Ally's poems and on a personal note, I will now share my own,my 
favourite poem,ever,from a boy:

your eyes are like paintballs.
spattered on a wall,
your hair leaps like fire,
your teeth used to maul,
your smile like  rainbow,
your choice soap is zest,
Genny I love you
and I want your breasts.

My older brother sent me  video of obscure french pop and some early 60's 
hits.Every single video contains about 5 girls doing the twist in 
bikinis.It's very funny because while they are wiggling away,most of the 
expressions on their faces are of a calm serenity.I really like that 'Wonder 
Boy' hit by Lesley Gore.Although she sings about him as a junior prom 
date,the Wonder Boy in the video looks suspiciously more like prom date's 
father.The dancing girls in this video all wear white pleated skirts that 
fly up when they shimmy to reveal (gasp!) baggy,tan coloured GRANNY pants! 
Now a while ago,Fair Princess Honey was talking about how we could celebrate 
Sinister birthday by all wearing same colour underwear,but please NO TAN. 
What about a nice maroon?
Hey what ever happened to all that talk about volunteering services? That's 
pretty exciting stuff and now what..not one single word of it anymore?  Of 
course,I'd probably hve to shell out bigtime if I wanted to fly some 
Scottish popstars over to Canada to teach me snooker/cook vegetarian 
meal/serenade objet d'amour.Guys love teaching girls to play pool,don't 
they? All that grasping of pool sticks and hanky panky.Pah. What was Stuarts 
volunteering service anyways? Can he do french manicures?

longing for you,
genevieve xoxo
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From frager103 at xxx.com  Fri Aug 25 18:33:36 2000
From: frager103 at xxx.com (Head in Clouds)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:33:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: ...
Message-ID: <20000825173336.28479.qmail@web3402.mail.yahoo.com>



Anyone here in From Bath?
Or Bristol?

Please let me know.

       "I blinked my eyes and you were gone"

         HIC.

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From pinefox at xxx.com  Fri Aug 25 19:19:10 2000
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 18:19:10 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Resenbrink Moon
Message-ID: <LAW-F33OjmfCHJr1Wty000007e1@hotmail.com>


<<...brink, brink, brink, brink...>>


oxo Genevieve sighed:

>>I wish the Marijuana Party would take over polotics.

They did, silly! That's why it's called 'polotics' nowadays.

It's all not at all to be confused with Steady Mike's tic-tac theory. That 
was quite different. Did anyone understand it?

Mooro returned and harangued:

>>I went away for a week, looked down at Mont Blanc from 35,000 feet & 
>>shared
Rome with 2,000,000 members of John Paul II's Youth Army. Feelings were
mixed, looking at Il Duce's balcony with flag waving, scarf wearing,
chanting groups of young people marching by.

It's him! I *knew* W.G. Sebadoh was around here somewhere. Which book is 
that from? It can't be Vertigo, Mont Blanc or no Laurent Blanc.


Toby Chan refused to Tobe the line any further. He wheezed:

>>
I smoked my Silk Cut
Urltra Mild and I picked
up the
"Ladies and Gentlemen, We Are Floated In Space BP"
in my messy CD pile
And thing's got better.
>>

As Brian Clough once said:
'I don't mean to be rude, son - but'

[But] are you the loon who told chickfactor that 'Ladies and Gentlemen' was 
the most perfect pop song ever? That's crazy talk, kid.

Chris Paluch went to Palookaville, and yearned:

>>
Oh yes, for anybody on the sinister list from Vermont
or New Hampshire please email me.
Oh yeah i have to write a paper...I am here for law
school after all.
>>

It sounds to me like he has an exciting life. I don't live in New Hampshire, 
but did write a song called 'New Hampshire' once. Will that do?


And we're missing the Super Cup for this.
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From david at xxx.uk  Fri Aug 25 19:41:08 2000
From: david at xxx.uk (David White)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 19:41:08 +0100
Subject: Sinister: LORD ANTHONY MP3
Message-ID: <LNBBIEGADDEMDLPIAGBKMEIACCAA.david@djwhite47.freeserve.co.uk>

Hello again list,

Firstly let me apologise if my rantings about politics were in any way
offensive, ill informed or just generally boring (politics boring, surely
not ;) ). By way of apology, I offer you the chance to download yet another
fine rare Belle and Sebastian track. This time its Lord Anthony. You should
know the drill by know but if you don't, head over to
www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk click on the DOWNLOADS link and there
it should be in all its glory. The file is just under 3 Mb and clocks in at
just over 3 minutes in length (I tell you this to avoid the confusion which
occurred with my last MP3 posting!)

That's all folks!

David
david at belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk

PS thanks to all those who mailed me to tell me who Nader is!

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From amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk  Fri Aug 25 19:55:11 2000
From: amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk (amy_jackson0)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 19:55:11 +0100
Subject: Sinister: r u still in 2 it?
Message-ID: <001001c00ec6$00a37640$b80b3c3e@tinypc>

hello there madame sinister...

since my last attempt at being funny and kool with you lot i found out that
the whole Highers f*ck up has nothing to do with me (obviously, i didn't
do it!) what i mean is that my results are totally fine.  how do i know
this.........?

cos i *finally* got accepted to strathclyde uni!

ya dancer!!!!

so i hit the streets of glasgow on the 23rd of september.  am i nervous?
more like bluddy petrified.  the big city is scary.  the first time i went
on a double decker bus was this june.  the first time i went in a black cab
taxi was last october.  the first time i *saw* a double decker bus was last
october too (in edinburgh).  i live in the sticks y'see.  well, the sticks
is like a buzzing metropolis compared to where i live.  Gairloch.
85 miles west of inverness, a million miles away from civilisation.
the place is a shambles, for example, licensing laws?
what licensing laws, lets serve straight vodka (and red bull, just to keeps
ken happy!) to all the 13 year olds and watch them collapse in the street!
drugs?  damn right, get them in at the harbour and sell them at the pub!
nice people?  aye, that'll be bluddy right.  :/  so i'm glad to be getting
away.  not that i'm saying that glasgow doesn't have these problems,
far from it,  it'll just be good to not bump into the same people every
day and have everyone knowing your secrets before you do.

i need a hug.  it feels like everything is changing too fast and i can't
stop it and it's all dead scary and i don't know what to do.  i'm too young
for this kind of responsibilty.

god i'm so sad :(

i got my hair cut like manda from bis again, only this time it actually
looks like her haircut.  gonna put the streaks in soon, when i can
find some nice hair dye.

oh how i love mogwai.  been listening to them a lot lately and they're
mighty fine.  even bought one of the "blur: are shite" t shirts and a hoody
top, so things must be getting bad.

was watching the bbc's new "romantic drama" glasgow kiss the other night
(for want of something better to do) and i heard "the boy with the arab
strap" being played in the background when the woman was in her room
getting changed.  started screaming when i heard it, my mam thought
someone had died.

my wee sister confessed to me last night that she is a closet n*sync fan.
should i disown her?  or maybe play b&S to her non stop until her ears
bleed?  this happened before, when i liked blur and she hated them, i pinned
her to the floor and put "popscene" on repeat play full blast for half an
hour.  she's never been the same since.

must thank pauline l shivers for the tales of aristocracy, turtle neck aunts
and stables.  another chapter soon, please?

that's all for today,
luv and jelly tots,
amy xxx


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From COURTOLY at xxx.com  Fri Aug 25 19:55:58 2000
From: COURTOLY at xxx.com (COURTOLY at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:55:58 EDT
Subject: Sinister: politics and relocation
Message-ID: <14.85589e3.26d81b3e@aol.com>

Hello my dears,
I read a bit of the Nader discussion. Boo to the business world is right! But the Nader camp has a good argument regarding vote splitting...in a country where 60% of the eligible voters do not vote, a candidate who is appealing to those fed up with the two party system is going to get more non-voters into the polls than people who are changing their mind from a traditional party to the Greens. Many activists, especially with an anarchist slant, do not vote in national elections. Vote cancellation is another option, find a friend who is going to vote for the opposition and agree not to vote together. See, just as good as voting yourself! Of course, you could still vote after you convinced them not to. 

I'm relocating to Athens GA in two months. If anyone has any advice, job leads etc. I have my BA in Liberal Arts and experience in libraries, coffee shops, and arts and craft stores. 

Love
Courtney
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From JENOWL22 at xxx.com  Fri Aug 25 22:43:19 2000
From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 17:43:19 EDT
Subject: Sinister: (polly) pocket book angel
Message-ID: <e0.90febe7.26d84277@aol.com>

Hewwo,

Ok, don't worry, I won't go all excited and write about Polly Pockets for all 
of this mail. Again.

Has anyone seen X Men. I went to see it just there, and it was really fabby 
and grate. I wish they'd all worn the comic book outfits though. I loved the 
comic books. I was a strange child. When I was very small, I liked Micro 
Machines, and Star Wars, and WCW, and comic books and stuff. Then I moved on 
to the complete extreme of Barbie Dolls, and pink fluffy things. Now I'm 
somewhere in between.

Hard kids. D'you remember I told you about that rapist boy that I got pushed 
into dating. Well, hey, guess what, he's doing community service at our 
school. So I did a brilliant thing which I should have thought of earlier, 
which meant that I didn't have to go out with him, or incur his big scary 
wrath. I lied a bit and told him I was a lesbian, to stop him coming near me, 
and hey, it worked.

Also hard kids, this week, have decided to put chewing gum all over the 
inside of my jacket when I wan't looking, so it wrecked my jacket, and my new 
pinafore. Also, they tried to steal my headscarf, but I stopped them, which I 
was proud of. I also said "bite me" to a really hard kid, when she told me 
how I was dead, so I was proud of that too.

Today, after I went to see the X Men, I came home on the bus, and I had my 
fairy wings on, and after I got off the bus, everything was quiet, and no one 
was about, so I started singing women's realm really loudly, and it was grate 
fun, because it echoed and everything.

Someone said (i'm really sorry, I forgot who) about Pauline L Shivers, and 
how her storied were cool and all made up. Am I odd, but I really do believe 
them? Honestly. 

I'm going to go now,

Bye bye,

Hugs,
Jen
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From CaMo81 at xxx.com  Sat Aug 26 02:11:12 2000
From: CaMo81 at xxx.com (CaMo81 at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:11:12 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Stories of horror! (Actually just 1 story)
Message-ID: <aa.9c82e95.26d87330@aol.com>

    Oh the Horror! Oh the Shame! The Agony!  I narrowly avoided a travesty 
that would have rocked the nation.  My mother (who's intentions where good) 
confused Belle and Sebastian with 70's glam rocker (and a particularly bad 
one at that) Sebastian Bach! <Insert seizure here>
    She said she almost bought tickets to the musical he is staring in.  I 
told her "Thanks for your concern but consult me before you make any rash 
decisions."
70's Glam rock, THE HORROR!

Anyway, Jenowl said:
 >Also hard kids, this week, have decided to put chewing gum all over the 
inside of my jacket when I wan't looking, so it wrecked my jacket, and my new 
pinafore. Also, they tried to steal my headscarf, but I stopped them, which I 
was proud of. I also said "bite me" to a really hard kid, when she told me 
how I was dead, so I was proud of that too.<

Under such circumstances, psychological warfare must be used. For one entire 
school year, you have to wear all black with big heavy steel tip storm 
trooper boots. That takes care of the outside image. Now when you're 
approached by these so called "hard kids," it's very important to have a 
stone straight face, when they threaten you, you lean in real close and in a 
real soft voice, you say something terribly gory, be imaginative. Some of my 
favs are, "I'm going to gut you like a fish and then use your intestines as a 
garden hose," or "I'm going to decapitate you, boil off the skin and use your 
overturned skull as a candy dish." Be creative, there are lots of internal 
organs, have fun with them!  Then you must spread slowly a penchant for war 
and death. Be careful with this one, if it gets to the teachers you're 
completely screwed.  Follow these steps and "your obsessions get you known 
throughout the school for being strange."  Trust me I did this last year, no 
one bothers me now. 

    My new experiment for this year is to go shopping and start dressing very 
twee and harmless like, even though on the inside I could kill someone. (I'm 
quite handy with butterfly knives and have recently taken up knife throwing.) 
Ummm perhaps I said too much hehe......<glances about nervously> So? When was 
Struans birthday?

Disclaimer: I am not responsible for any damages, deaths, or personal 
injuries incurred by the above statements. Even though everyone on the list 
now thinks I'm a complete psychopath. (Don't worry guys, in reality I am 
pretty harmless.)

So? Anyone know where I could pick up some twee looking clothes?  My friend 
picked up a rather nice sweater from Old Navy, so I'll probably start there.  
My goal is too look like one of the guys on the opening graphic of the French 
tweeclub website, www.chez.com/tweeclub. Check it out and get back to me. I 
love screwing with the masses! Good night Sinister, wherever you lay your 
head.

                                                    Derek

P.S. I hope any potential Sinister friendships were not destroyed by this 
posting. It's all just propaganda for my ego anyway. =) 

P.P.S: Jenowl, please don't really do this.
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From PolyesterGroom at xxx.com  Sat Aug 26 02:24:32 2000
From: PolyesterGroom at xxx.com (PolyesterGroom at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:24:32 EDT
Subject: Sinister: And the beat goes on....
Message-ID: <10.1828b6b.26d87650@aol.com>

Salut

It is not a frequent or popular past time of mine to write to the list,but 
tonight as I sit bored and ill with a summertime cold,ive noticed a need to 
communicate with my brethren.

haha,pass me the shovel

And as the oncoming school year beckons once more,and for me the last time as 
Im graduating, numerous thoughts fill my mind.Many of which can be attributed 
to weather changes,others to friend changes,and others still to life 
changes.Ive entitled the summer of 2000 "The Summer of Endings"

anyone concur?

regards
Nick
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From declan63 at xxx.com  Sat Aug 26 02:34:04 2000
From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:34:04 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Stories of horror! (Actually just 1 story)
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Subject: Sinister: Stories of horror! (Actually just 1 story)


>     Oh the Horror! Oh the Shame! The Agony!  I narrowly avoided a travesty
> that would have rocked the nation.  My mother (who's intentions where good)
> confused Belle and Sebastian with 70's glam rocker (and a particularly bad
> one at that) Sebastian Bach! <Insert seizure here>
>     She said she almost bought tickets to the musical he is staring in.  I
> told her "Thanks for your concern but consult me before you make any rash
> decisions."
> 70's Glam rock, THE HORROR!

ah, i only *wish* sebastian bach was glam rock.  that might actually be good.  no, he is the once (and future?) leader of skid row,
a late 80s/early 90s....."phenomenon" who were decidedly awful.  their closest contemporaries are probably warrant.  remember them?
ohhhh be glad if you don't.     yes, he's now in "jekyll and hyde".  a close call on your part either way, but you're about to give
glam rock a bad name there!  :)

jay

"like a rocket from a bottle shot free, i've been just explosive since you kissed me"


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From 50158120 at xxx.hk  Sat Aug 26 12:15:41 2000
From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 19:15:41 +0800
Subject: Sinister: boy with the subject line
Message-ID: <967288541.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk>

`Girls    and     Boys:
`
`(  ( ( ((  H E L L O ))  )  )   )
`
`anyone
`
`              COPY ?
`
`                                HALO PF:
`                                I am not the one who CLAIM
`                                "LADIES AND......."
`                                IS the PeRfect pop
`
`                                But i need this Space Rock
`                                SONIQUE treatment at that time
`        TOBY c      


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From jasonandreas at xxx.net  Sat Aug 26 12:40:13 2000
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:40:13 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Say the right things, when you're auctioneering, I trust I can rely on, your bid...
Message-ID: <004b01c00f52$6647f2a0$ab8a183e@default>

Hello folk poppers.

*exhales in a vague fashion*

    I was dragged last night by my friends Andy, James and Gary to 'Pressure
Night' at the Arches in Glasgow. It's one of those 'havin' it large'
occasions where the dance community get together and sort of wave their
hands about in random directions in vague time to the beat. I was, suffice
to say, not 'loved up,' 'havin' it large' or even enjoying myself much. I
did manage to throw in a couple of 'big fish, little fish, cardboard box's'
though, so all was well on that score. I doubt I'd do it again, but it
certainly was an experience.

    My (so called) life has gone through one of the usual stages again. I
find a new group of people to hang with, everything's okay or so for a few
months then they just, without warning, get fed up of me and stop talking.
This happens to Andy too. Is this a usual thing for everyone, or are we just
unlucky sods?

    I hope that most members of Sinister are putting themselves up for
auction. Remember, it's all in a good cause.

    Got my Soulwax ticket yesterday, so this'll be the *fourth* time I've
seen them, come October. Nice :)

    There seems to be an extraordinary amount of bands I want to see coming
up soon. I'm still trying to work my Bob Dylan ticket into my budget, but
apart from him, there's also Lou Reed, Doves, It's Jo And Danny, Badly Drawn
Boy, ...Trail Of Dead, Placebo, and quite a few more too. It's gonna be a
gigging time!

    Joke: What has four legs and an arm?
    Answer: A happy pit-bull.

    Never ever did manage to get in touch again with wee Heather McDonald,
despite all my numerous attempts. If anyone on the list knows her, can you
please assure me she's okay? <grin>

    Have had the most unquenshable thirst ever lately. I must have drank
about 50000000 litres of Sunny Delight, Lucozade, Irn Bru, American Cream
Soda and the new Juice Up things. Buzz! Buzz!

    Pro Plus is nice! BUZZZZZZZZ!

    Awaiting the new Radiohead album with some trepidation, nervous about
this whole new dance-orientated prog-rocky sound. It's gonna be like Primal
Scream soon - having to do a different sound each album just for the sake of
it! Grr!

    Anyone know if Godspeed You Black Emperor! are going to come back to
Glasgow this year? I know they're playing some UK dates, but I don't know
exactly where.

    Work continues to be pish <grin> Nah, it's not as bad as it could have
been. I was ready to join a production line, for Twee's sake!

    Jen Owl's "Bite me!" to the hard kid scares me somewhat. I get the
impression she's not the sweet little innocent she claims to be <wink>

    I've not heard from Toffeecrisp for a while - are you still online at
all? Same goes for a few other people who will undoubtedly know who they
are, or possibly wont. Who knows?

    I like to receive text messages, so send nice ones (and tell me who you
are if poss) to 07833 945 517

    Grr! Grrrr! Arrrrgh! Braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiinnnnnnnnssssss!!

    Eek! Sorry, went a bit zombie-fied there.

    Okay, my 15 minutes are gone. And so am I.

    A prize (as yet undecided) to the first person to tell me where my new
signature quote comes from.

--Jason Andreas
Guardian of the Obvious

It is said, that when He saw a weed trying to
grow between two rocks, that he moved one
of the rocks. Later, when He saw that the weed
was flourishing, he placed the rock back on top.
He explained to us; 'That was its fate.'

ICQ: 45821217  AIM: RadioJase

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From katefunky at xxx.com  Sun Aug 27 05:03:19 2000
From: katefunky at xxx.com (Kate Funky)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:03:19 EST
Subject: Sinister: havinitlarge
Message-ID: <LAW2-F721ZG5yoVTvKR000009e8@hotmail.com>

what jason said...

"  It's one of those 'havin' it large'
occasions where the dance community get together and sort of wave their
hands about in random directions in vague time to the beat. I was, suffice
to say, not 'loved up,' 'havin' it large' or even enjoying myself much. "


i just finished watching 'human traffic'. i'm not a dance person at all, but 
the whole going out in a gang really reminded me of my friends, and the way 
we approach clubbing (but we do less drugs). we've totally got a little 
indie clique going on. which suits me well. because


"I find a new group of people to hang with, everything's okay or so for a 
few months then they just, without warning, get fed up of me and stop 
talking. "

this has happened to me. more than makes me happy. my friends now are all 
nice, but recently i realised that a couple of people who i've been friends 
with for a couple of years have vanished off the radar. and it kind of feels 
wierd because the people i'm really close to now are the people that they 
introduced me to, so we have a lot of common friends.

im watching 'walker, texas ranger' now. does chuch norris sing the theme 
tune?

love you all. kate.

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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Sat Aug 26 14:02:33 2000
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 14:02:33 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Homo Kenny
Message-ID: <200008261300.OAA08991@missprint.org>

Hi,

I hope you are all well...

I am home in Milton Keynes for today.. er, yay.. and my dad for some reason 
had a "conversation" with me last night with things to say.. he asked me if 
I was gay!  So I said nay, and he said okay.

Hmm.  What on Earth gave him the impression that I may be gay?  Don't 
really know, ok so I might have rather girly hair and not going out 
with anyone but that doesn't mean that I fancy blokes does it?  Otherwise 
I'd be not not going out with anyone but going out with, er, blokes 
right?

Anyway I was glad that at least I've set the record straight (unintentional 
pun).

Look forward to seeing all of you going to the picnic tomorrow! :) It's 
pisting down with rain at the moment but it's going to be sunny and grate 
tomorrow I just know it.

Picnics and red bulls xxx
Ken
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I go outside it's not so bad, I saw my friend and he couldn't believe that
The girls are holding hands, the girls are holding hands don't be a fool
it's 1995 the girls are just friends
- Belle & Sebastian

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From llu at xxx.edu  Sat Aug 26 15:19:04 2000
From: llu at xxx.edu (Liqin Lu)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 10:19:04 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Say the right things, when you're auctioneering, I trust I can rely on, your bid...
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>    My (so called) life has gone through one of the usual stages again.
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ funny how u put it that way, it happens to be my
fave tv show.

liqin

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From samiamx at xxx.com  Sat Aug 26 15:29:24 2000
From: samiamx at xxx.com (Sam Devere)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 14:29:24 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Music my dear...
Message-ID: <F232EXUIEAOeIiGXix400000524@hotmail.com>

So this is my first post in a while, I haven't been reading this list much 
during the past year or so and feel out of the loop.  My question is what 
are some good bands/albums that have come out during the past year?  Send me 
your opinions and I'll summarize and post to the list so this doesn't 
degenerate into another WWF conversation.  Does anyone know where the 
original version of Mogwai's "Don't Cry" comes from?  I got it on Napster 
but want to buy the original on cd...

Sam
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From 50158120 at xxx.hk  Sat Aug 26 16:40:37 2000
From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:40:37 +0800
Subject: Sinister: havinitlarge
Message-ID: <967304437.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk>

0                       HELlo Space boys:
Kate said:
"this has happened to me. more than makes me happy. my friends now are 
all nice, but recently i realised that a couple of people who i've been 
friends with for a couple of years have vanished off the radar. and it 
kind of feels wierd because the people i'm really close to now are the 
people that they introduced me to, so we have a lot of common friends"
0                          
0    Kate, i ve this feeling too                          
0    Now i am close to my mate's              
0                           mate
0
0  I AM     not okay    rightnow
0           I called up my mates    (BLANK)                
0      W H O   L U V   M U Z I K                           
0           FOR a Drum&Bass nite
0                               But no one are free
0                               or dun wanna ve a nite out
0                               so i am on my own now
0   i HATE go to party on my own 
0         I h!a!t!e this feeling 
0                I had a thought
0                               "to ask other people 
0                         to go"                    
0          But it is SHITE, mate                      
0                                
0                                Last nite i was lonely
0                                I ate some shitty food alone     
0                                and went to play 
0                                "virtual tennis" alone
0 if the smiths still write songs
0      this story will be written
0                   as their song
0          
0                                     TOBY c @ island east / HKG


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From noceman at xxx.com  Sun Aug 27 08:31:31 2000
From: noceman at xxx.com (Chris Noce)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:31:31 -0700
Subject: Sinister: hello.
Message-ID: <B5CE11D4.208C%noceman@hotmail.com>

hello there.
   i have a voice now.  i figured i'd give it a shot and say hello to
everyone.  my name is chris.  i'm rather tired at the moment so, this is
going to be relatively short.  i don't really know what else to say so, this
would be where i should end it.  okay.  maybe later on i'll have somethign
meaninful to say.  anyway, hooray!  i have a voice.
- chris ;) 
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From jellybabs at xxx.com  Sun Aug 27 17:23:12 2000
From: jellybabs at xxx.com (Katy Dutton)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 16:23:12 GMT
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <F428zDv60gxapzhad2V00000190@hotmail.com>

Hello everyone :)

It feels like it's been ages since I've posted...probably because it is.  
Same as everyone else, it seems, a lot has been going on.  So here we go, a 
run down of my life during the past 3 or so weeks:

1.  Exam results.  Yay...no Higher-style debacles here, just a very nice set 
of results that made me smile lots.  Four whole A-Levels <g>.

2.  Thus: University.  GLASGOW!  Enough said :)

3.  It's my birthday tomorrow.  And I know that my lovely boyfriend ventured 
into Avalanche in Glasgow to buy a rather twee and endearingly cool 'Belle 
Et Sebastien' t-shirt.  Also: nice bracelet from grandma (good ol' grandma).

4.  The highlight of the past week was a great night out at The Social in 
Nottingham to see Richard Colburn and Chris Geddes DJ.  David (for David 
see: 'im indoors) actually had a conversation with Goddess, sorry, Geddes.  
Lucky bugger, grrr.

Anyway, enough idle chit-chat about me.  How are you, eh? <g>.  I was just 
catching up on my mail after weeks of neglect due to various trips (Glasgow, 
Devon), and stumbled across a scarily close reflection of my own life in 
Amy's mail.  Especially:

>my wee sister confessed to me last night that she is a closet n*sync >fan.
>should i disown her?  or maybe play b&S to her non stop until her ears
>bleed?  this happened before, when i liked blur and she hated them, i 
> >pinned
>her to the floor and put "popscene" on repeat play full blast for half >an
>hour.  she's never been the same since.

There was a scary moment in my not-so-wee sister's formative years (last 
year) that she developed a strong liking for All Saints.  I insisted on 
playing B&S at every opportunity, especially when driving her around.  
Muhahaha.  Worryingly, she now likes Slipknot...perhaps this is a 
reverse-psychology-esque effect of B&S subjection?

Are any other Sinisterines going to Glasgow Uni this year? <blushes> I'm 
uprooting from Nottingham to Glasgow in approximately 4 weeks, living in 
halls, and when I think about it: I'm a little bit scared.  In a good way, 
of course, but it'd be nice to meet some of you if you're there and in a 
similar position to me (ie First Year at Glasgow).

Does anyone else like Tanya Donelly/ Belly?  I'm rediscovering her 
loveliness right now, listening to 'King'.

Ahem.

Lots of tired love,

Katy xxx

"Race me through this heart-broken town"

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From imn_uk at xxx.uk  Sun Aug 27 20:43:42 2000
From: imn_uk at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?ian=20nicolson?=)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 20:43:42 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: Jingles! Cabaret! Merseybeat!
Message-ID: <20000827194342.22860.qmail@web4302.mail.yahoo.com>

(The early parts of this post have tendencies toward
both sentimentality and wankiness.  So quick! avert
your eyes, children, it'll soon be over!)

Earlier this week I climbed a hill overlooking
Edinburgh called Arthur's Seat, which, despite having
lived here all my life, is something I'd never managed
before.  This can mainly be put down to laziness and
my eventual conquest has probably more to do with
boredom than much else.  From the top you can see the
entire town, and although Edinburgh is a small city,
it's still an impressive view.  Leaning on the
Ordanance Survey pillar at the top, in a valiant but
doomed attempt to regain my breath *and* smoke a
cigarette, surrounded by Scandanavians and Americans,
I looked down over the town and it was like seeing my
life so far spread out in front of me.  As far as I
can tell life is a collection of little stories of
experiences and suchlike and everywhere I looked 
there was some kind of story or memory.  Some parts of
town reminded me of individual experiences, while
others were more connected with certain periods of
time.  I thought of the people I'd known, who, despite
promising not to, I'd lost contact with and who may,
or may not, still be down in the city somewhere.  And
I thought of the people I still know and how important
it is that I don't lose touch with them, however
difficult that might seem.  Most of all I thought of
how I'd reached a juncture in my life and how it had
seemingly ground to a halt since leaving university
earlier in the summer.  I realised that I have to do
something to get it started again, to actually make
the big decisions for the first time in my life,
although I've no idea what those decisions are.  But
the only way in which I can see this happening is for
me to finally leave Edinburgh, however much I love it.
 
Nick, the Polyester Groom said:
> Ive entitled the summer of 2000 "The Summer of
> Endings"
This is maybe true for me too, but I'd like to think
it could be a summer of beginnnings as well.

OK, you can look back at your screens now. But be
warned! there may be further spells of wankiness
ahead.  Sorry for the shameless self-indulgence - I'll
have to stop giving myself away like that.

Anyways, Liz Daplyn pondered:
> At what point in oneÂ’s life does one really really
> have to grow up?
On her twenty second birthday earlier this year, a
friend of mine told me that she was worried that she
might have to buy a handbag cause she might be grown
up now.  Which was intreguing.  Is buying a handbag a
recognised sign of growing up?  Is there a set age at
which one (ladies, mainly) should buy a handbag?  I
think we should be told!
I went to see Alasdair Gray (not a handbag carrier, as
far as I'm aware) at the Edinburgh Book Festival on
Friday, and despite being sixty-five and incredibly
intelligent and knowledgable I think it would be fair
to say that there are a lot of ways in which he hasn't
grown up.  And Edwin Morgan, who I saw reading poems
at the same place the week before, seems to be, at
eighty, getting younger.  So the answer is probably
never, Liz. Not really really grow up. But I'm just a
young sprig of a boy, what do I know?!  By the way,
these are two people who you *should read*, kids. 
Ransack your libraries post haste!

Sometime this week Paula Cullen yelled:
> "I QUITE LIKE COCK ACTUALLY"
Which you can hardly argue with, as well as:

> the conversation came around to what was The Best
> Curseword In The World.........Ever.  naturally,
> "Cunt" was streets ahead of the rest, what with it
> being the Most Offensive Word In The English
Language
> and all.

You would have thought so, wouldn't you Paula? I
certaily did, but apparently it's not.  At least not
in Britain.  The one thing that they told me at
university that I still remember, and therefore must
have seemed to me at the time to be of greatest use,
is that according to the British film classification
people "motherfucker" is badder than "cunt".  Which is
fair enough, I guess.  But only if it's your own
mother.  And "twat" is worse than "arse".  Who'd have
thought it?

I seem to have written more gibberish than usual
tonight.
Shut up, Ian.
OK

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From CaMo81 at xxx.com  Sun Aug 27 21:20:30 2000
From: CaMo81 at xxx.com (CaMo81 at xxx.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 16:20:30 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Glam rock apologies
Message-ID: <a1.9f1d397.26dad20e@aol.com>

    Apparently, I was in error when I stated that Sebastian Bach was a 70's 
glam rocker. I apologize for any outrage or confusion this may have caused.  
But, still the contrast between B&S and Sebastian is pretty stark!
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From dee at xxx.ie  Mon Aug 28 01:44:54 2000
From: dee at xxx.ie (Denise Power)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 01:44:54 +0100 (IST)
Subject: Sinister: Jingles! Cabaret! Merseybeat!
In-Reply-To: <20000827194342.22860.qmail@web4302.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.20.0008280131420.23921-100000@orca.ucd.ie>

speaking of arthurs seat ? Would who have thought Id get pleasure out of
writing about it? WE decided upon it one day, our after work mission
instead of going to co-op and agonising over dora spaghetti , we would do
something constructive not destructive. Ug-lee ali our boss gave us some
unwelcome advice before hand.Only it wasnt advice , it was boastful words
cunningly disguised as advice. "i went up it three times on my bike" he
said , boastfully. 
Shut up uglee ali. we all muttered  under our  breath before the
adventure. WE met up with the most miserable guest in the world , in whose
honour we were climbing the stupid thing. Being over excited , we wandered
into a nearby slum, and feared for out lives. Then i bravely appraoched an
old man  and asked him the embarrassing question of how do you get up the
mountain. He mumbled something about the other side which we chose to
ignore and proceeded up posssibly the steepest mountain in the world. Anne
decided to be the hike leader which amazed and astounded everyone, except
the unpleasantest guest in the world, because anne is the laziest person
youll ever meet. WE took many a wrong turn and we overtaken by young
children and old ladies alike. Eventually (maybe 4 hours later) we reached
the summit. WE clung to the triangulation station , mentioned earlier by
young ian, for dear life , twas very windy up there.  Then we ventured out
to admire the view. Smoking was out of the question, it was much too cold
and our lungs  had completely collapsed. Even louise the perpetual smoker,
decided against one. Next thing, wouldnt you know, ungrateful guest
starts complaining lots about being cold. Tough shit, we wanted to
say. WE're here now, it took almost five hours. shut up and look at the
beautiful view. But her complaining increased  in volume and pitch and we
gave in to her petty demands. another half hour later , having found the
simple way down, we were at the bottom, cherub cheeked from our first bit
of exercise in years. WE were so tired that we punished the ungrateful
guest with a surprise night in, and sprung the surpirse on her, subtly by
dragging the duvets in to watch TV. No makeup was being put on our faces,
it was TV night, regardless of whether it was miserable guests last night
or not. 
My thesis is due is sooooooooo soon. Im so scared. is it possible to get 3
6,000 word chapters an introduction , conclusion and expensive binding
done? oh it must be, or else these mouth ulcers are all for nothing.







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From lleweth at xxx.com  Mon Aug 28 04:44:43 2000
From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 03:44:43 GMT
Subject: Sinister: You never close your eyes anymore when you read my posts...
Message-ID: <LAW-F223VFOh1vdkmyC00000516@hotmail.com>

Happy Birthday to youuuuu
Happy Birthday to youuuuu
Happy Birthday to Sinister
(and Stu David, JEB Stuart,
Pookie, JD Stephens, and a
zillion other people)
Happy Birthday to youuuuu

I figured I ought to get a post out before we're flooded with torrents of 
missives concerning the Sinister picnic of the day. Since it was a birthday 
celebration was everyone in their birthday suits or just in their red 
undies?

I didn't do anything celbratory. However, I did get called a phreak (which 
is akin to being freaky) because I'm wearing socks with toes. (They're like 
gloves for the feet. Very cozy.) I love sinister. Of course, I really just 
use it to leech off of Peter Miller's & Brad!'s wit. Y'all both need to 
write more posts because I've used all of your snappy lines already. I 
figure if I virtually surround my people by bright clever people than I can 
some how soak in the goodness. It worked for Judas Iscariot ... or not.

Course even if I was in London I probably wouldn't have gone to the picnic. 
There was that snazzy KinderGore festival a few weeks ago in Athens which is 
just a few hours from me. I thought of going and then I realized I wasn't 
hip enough so I fled to go plunder in old book bookstores in Maine for a 
week. It was quite nice. At the highest point on the Atlantic coast, I fell 
in love with the guy with black curly hair who was wearing a Salt Lake City 
tee shirt and holding a fancy camera. He was standing in front of me and it 
all ended when he turned around & saw his face. However, those three minutes 
were bliss. Later that day, we went down to the rocky cliffs by the ocean 
and I saw where someone has set their copy of Ellison's "Invisible Man", a 
notebook, and a a bottle of water down on a rock. I didn't even see the 
owner of it all but I was on the rebound. So, I fell in love again. It was 
an eventful trip. Canada (Ottawa, Montreal, & Quebec) was also a stop on the 
trip and that was lovely. Don't worry - I didn't ask anyone to sing "Jumper" 
in french. No, the drive was sponsored musically by Modest Mouse (oh love 
the new album), Pavement, Soda Stream, The Magnetic Fields, a lovely mix 
tape by Will Harris (who makes the best mixes EVER), a compilation of all of 
b&s's singles (plus, an ace copy of Loneliness of the middle distance 
runner) given to me by the darling James Thorniley,  and the letter B 
(standing for Bonney Boys).

Wily Walkn10 Steve Stuttered:
"Well, I hope everyone's summer is still going well...men's basketball 
season is right around the corner, and Mrs. Llew can look forward to 6 whole 
months of beat-downs."

I personally snap to attention whenever I hear my name near words like 
"beat-downs" and especially when it's used in conjunction with "right around 
the corner." However, Steve's words completely threw me off guard with the 
title 'Mrs. Llew.' Mrs.? When did I get married?? I swear (like a sailor) 
that the bride is always the last to know! Can someone tell me who my 
husband now is?

I hope that won't effect my spinisterine status. Ohh thinking of 
Spinisterines- Miss Velocity wrote me a lovely poem with the note of, "I 
know it's silly... but i just wanted to make you smile... are you smiling??" 
attached. Well, Special K had no way of knowing that that day I had 3 final 
exams, an end of course project, and a dentist appointment. Throw in a 
plague and some famine and I could have gotten to nurture my inner Job. The 
poem did make me smile though and for that I'm grateful.

In fact, I love all of the Laura Llew poetry so much that I ventured into 
the unknown realm of webpages to bring the Laura Llew Anthology of poetry to 
the world. Yes, indeedy. Now, instead of just being used to clog up the 
archives of Sinister the poetry the lLLl are also now set forth at  
http://www.angelfire.com/indie/badpoetry  Yes! Click on the shiny blue link 
now to be taken into a world of sniffin glue, milkmaids, and the occasional 
rhyme. I even dug through my stuff to find two poems written to/for me by my 
two of my best friends. I would like to make a few disclaimers first (though 
they won't make sense until after you see the site):

1. William Andrew Harris is a different entity from the so-called President 
William Munro Harris. Two separate personages. I put the picture of William 
A. Harris up because it is actual photo phootage of him reading the poem to 
me two years ago. I realize that it is a particularly bad picture and his 
profile is looking a bit goat-like. However, he is quite cute or so I was 
assured by my 3 roommates who all had mad crushes on him. All I know is that 
he gave me lots of presents that year so I was happy. I even obtained his 
permission to put the picture up. (He said, "I don't remember it being THAT 
unflattering, Laura." Oh it is. At least, he doesn't have on his glasses 
which make him look like a Nazi Death Camp guard. Heil Harris!)
2. I have never sniffed glue. (I prefer whiteout and those supposedly 
nontoxic scented markers).
3. I will happily take more submissions (Not just in poem form either. Any 
volunteers to be my slave or cabanna boy are more than encouraged as well..)
D. During my hunt for poetry, I came across one written three years ago for 
a co-worker at the time. It begins:

Ode to Marky Mark Powder Cakes

Wanna hear something weird?
The hair on your back looks like Porter Rockwell's beard.
Too bad it's not on your head
Enough Said.

It goes on but I'll spare you. I figured that you could tell from this why 
there is no poetry BY me on there. It does sound like it could apply to 
someone else though doesn't? Tell me, Mark C*, did you ever work as a 
telemarketer in the US?

If anyone can tell me who Porter Rockwell is without looking it up anywhere, 
you'll get my crush vote. I went to a restaurant in Lehi Utah once with a 
Porter Rockwell theme. Needless to say, it was scary.

your bookshop girl,

Laura
'meeting all of your Laura Llew needs since 1977'

PS- #sinisters, do any of you have the link for the boy:girl test? (The one 
that tells you how feminine your brain is or something like that). Could 
someone pleasepleaseplease send it to me. I'd be ever so grateful. I'm 
warning you chatters now that I'm going to be returning to my home while i'm 
at home soon.
PPS- the above ps reminded me of boygirlorder - Noah (Mark). I was happy to 
see that he posted again but sad to see that neither Will Porter or I were 
blamed for it. Sure, you get big and forget all the little scapegoats.

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From sebastian at xxx.com  Mon Aug 28 07:43:18 2000
From: sebastian at xxx.com (pedro simões)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 23:43:18 -0700
Subject: Sinister: i trust on my bleeding sad head.i know someday i'll...
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From GardeningAtNight at xxx.com  Mon Aug 28 12:16:15 2000
From: GardeningAtNight at xxx.com (GardeningAtNight at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 07:16:15 EDT
Subject: Sinister: writing frightening verse to a laura llew in sinister
Message-ID: <e0.9245454.26dba3ff@aol.com>

Well, hi.  I usually tell myself that I won't post to Sinister unless I have 
something to say with B&S at least in mind, and I guess I sort of do, but I 
figure that doesn't stop anyone else so I shouldn't sit in the corner like I 
always do.  I'm trying to break that habit in life.  Blah.

School started Thursday for me, so my mornings consist of dancing in the 
shower to the Smiths, checking my email to the Smiths, getting dressed to the 
Smiths.. etc.  They're new to me (thus the overload) but it's getting 
pathetic, really.  I used to think they were awful.  So now whenever I'm 
enthusiastic out-loud about them I get a beating.  Not literally of course, 
but I think if I were a boy I really would get the crap beaten out of me 
every day, and not just cause I like good music.  At least people around here 
have enough decency to respect the old stereotypical traditions, like not 
hitting girls.  Even feminists have to admit it's a perk.  Still, I've 
learned to keep things to myself just because it's annoying to be called a 
fag.  I suppose announcing my other new love, Queer as Folk, wouldn't help 
much either.

That reminds me of Jen though (kids who give beatings, I mean).  I still 
can't imagine kids as mean as the ones at her school.  There must be 
something in the water because everyone here honestly is a wimp and they're 
afraid of what their parents will say if they find grass stains on their 
rich-kid khakis.  I got a letter in the mail from her the other day that made 
me feel much less alone in the world.  I wrote her back straight away with a 
marriage proposal, because she is GRATE.

My friends and I are auctioning ourselves for B&S.  A string quartet for 
parties and such.  Although they always say they themselves (the band) aren't 
twee in the least, the spirit has just gotten me into such a sugary mood.. I 
want to give them giant hugs for their generosity in a world where it's 
becoming rarer.  It's selfish at the same time though.  It'll make me feel 
good (the auction I mean, although hugging them would make me feel good too.  
I think my favorite member to hug would be Isobel, but that's an obvious 
choice.).

My birthday was last Tuesday (I rebeled by not having a sweet 16 party) and I 
got my license.  I think it was only because the guy who tested me was nice.  
He thought our plate was rad and he kept calling me "the sinister gal."  He 
passed me with the lowest score possible, so I'll always be grateful.  Except 
the picture on my license is of a depressed-looking pseudo goth person and 
not me, just because the Kim Gordon lookalike who took the picture said I 
didn't have to smile if I didn't want to.  It's really empowering though, I 
feel all grown-up.  My dad would have a go at me if he knew I were driving to 
school though.  Actually he'd have a go at me if he knew anything at all 
about me, probably.  That sucks.

Anyway.  Jumping on the bandwagon, here's a poem.  It's a 
thank-you-but-don't-be-offended-that-I-didn't-take-your-advice-about-a-summer-
job poem for the lady of the moment.  Besides, they closed the bookstore 
across the street and opened a cellular phone store in its place.  Sorry 
about the end, I didn't want to say I liked her more than poo or something.

Oh, Laura Llew
I think it was you
Who gave me advice
About a job that was nice
And although I ignored
You no longer implored
And that's why I like you
More than my dad.

Love,
Samantha

PS: Does anyone know of a good Simpsons quotes page?  I want to find the line 
where Homer's talking about the British show on PBS where they beat each 
other.. "when they're not (something), they're having a round with the 
wankers."  He is the voice of our generation.
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From JENOWL22 at xxx.com  Mon Aug 28 19:02:56 2000
From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 14:02:56 EDT
Subject: Sinister: If it's not love then it's the polo mints that will bring us together
Message-ID: <66.6f14163.26dc0350@aol.com>

Hewwo,

All the schools in south lanarkshire are on strike...except ours. How bad is 
that?

School is crap. 

I feel really terrible, because I missed samantha's birthday. So I'm really 
sorry.

Oh, Sam
Antha I am
Really a bam
Because I missed
It, so here's a kiss
To say I wish
I hadn't.

I am so shite
But next time I write
I'll send you something nice,
Not like evil mice
Mice are ok but not evil ones,
They eat buns.


Ahhh, I'm (not) a born poet.


Yesterday I walked seven miles to hamilton because I felt like it, and I made 
friends with a horse and some cows, and I fed the horse peppermints. The cows 
mooed at me, and I said, it's ok, I don't eat cows, but they mooed at me 
anyway Then it started to rain, and I got wet. And I ate cheese sandwiches.

When B&S went on TOTP, I was just thinking, why did Struan have on a Dennis 
the Menace T-Shirt? Dennis was a hard kid. I liked Walter the Softy best. He 
was cool.

Hugs,
Jen




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From brier at xxx.com  Mon Aug 28 19:49:20 2000
From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:49:20 -0700
Subject: Sinister: A recommended CD
Message-ID: <00b901c01120$ad86eb60$729ef1d1@Brier.sb.net>

Heads up, kiddoes, for the BEST non-B&S CD of the year.  Her name is Mirah.
The CD on K Records is called "You Think It's Like This But Really It's Like
This".  Absolute f**king godhead.  Trust me.  Buy it, steal it, borrow it,
listen to it.  Trust me.

Brier

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From umets at xxx.com  Mon Aug 28 21:01:20 2000
From: umets at xxx.com (Ulla Mets)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:01:20 GMT
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <F2777dcLdZs3JcXu98s000011a0@hotmail.com>

heiya
annnd again annd again those exiting lines appear to your screens...this is 
my first post and let's see if it's not my last for some while as i go to 
finland for the end of this year to continue my studies.and i attend to do 
it very nicely and properly. i'm a good girl you know. ah-hahaa, fooled you
one thing that i doon't like is to be a stranger (specially among the people 
i started to like already) so i'd like to introduce myself a little
name: ulla
age:25
place:tallinn, estonia
mission in life: unknown so far
likes: all sort of weird things, with a touch of style, of cause

there aren't wery many B&S fans in here in tallinn (i know two besides me 
and one of them is my own dear sister, who is also member of this happy 
family) although i spotted one address in nursery. but it does not bother me 
much, quite the oposit- i have this thought inside my head that makes me 
feel i'm somehow privileged or so, makes me smile when i spot (rearly) some 
B&S cd in record shops and think gooood they're grrrreat and those 
smatrarses don't even know what the're missing when they get their new 
britney's album... and not only that i'm totally messed up about sounds of 
B&S i also study product design in a country that doesn't produce almost 
anything. at least not in thoughts of product design. weird..?

but here's a call to everybody who live in helsinki.  would you pliis be so 
kind and like to show me around? some? i'll be there starting from 30th of 
august.
i'd love that, you know,
muh, muh (kisses on your both cheeks you all)
ulla


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From martyg10 at xxx.com  Mon Aug 28 23:58:04 2000
From: martyg10 at xxx.com (Marty GGGGG)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 23:58:04 BST
Subject: Sinister: Celtic 6 Rangers 2
Message-ID: <F236X2REZTBqmD9TgDW00000e20@hotmail.com>

Ya fuckin' beauty! Even from half way around the globe the sweet taste of a 
Celtic victory has brought a huge grin to my face.
HAIL HAIL SINISTERINES!
Howzabout a B&S gig at Parkhead to celebrate once the league is won, with an 
all star support from the entire Bowlie / ATP lineup. That'll do nicely. 
Lineup recommendations?
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From sophiesea at xxx.com  Mon Aug 28 23:33:27 2000
From: sophiesea at xxx.com (sophie harris)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:33:27 GMT
Subject: Sinister: the best laid plans of meece and men...
Message-ID: <LAW2-F2167IZfSp1J1000000ec4@hotmail.com>

*
hello sweet things
just got back from 'high fidelity' and feeling rather strange. expected not 
to like it (tho' affectionate towards the book), and then was hopelessly 
entertained by the whole thing ('i laaafed, i cried...). odd though, felt 
sparkly and a little bit taller when we got out (like you do when you see a 
really amazing gig or see someone you've missed), and then we had excitable 
conversations about it in the pub (like a film debriefing, and then big 
relaayyyshionship / differences between boys and girls (not *those* ones) 
discussions. and now i feel sad. sad about the first and only person to 
break myheart, and cumulative weekend/ sundaymonday blues and also weird as 
start new job tommorrow and am frankly a bit scared - *soooo* wanted the 
job, didnt think i'd get it - and now i have, bloody terrified i wont be up 
to 'scratch' (rrrr) - and then missed the picanic on sunday, as roped into 
other stuff by, in fact, the very friends who sniggered at me in the cinema 
in the little b&s bit at the beginning. wore best red underwear on sunday 
tho, and frowned to myself that noone i was with knew or cared about my 
great knickers and the reason for them. (sigh)...
so tonight's odd little mist of a mood puts me in mind of a piece of 
graffitti, really one of the most beautiful things i think i have ever seen; 
'kay, where i used to live in brighton (the Level if you wanna have a look), 
there's a wide path that stretches across a Green, and written across the 
path in white spray paint and nearly worn off, it just says, in big letters 
'How could you do that to me?'. and the first time i saw it, it made me 
catch my breath.
anyway, i'm going to pack my bag for tommorrow (does it always feel like new 
term school, this kind of thing? that you must have your new geometry set 
tin or it will all go horribly wrong?)
so yes. adios, and surprising rainbows to all of you

xsoph

*
'I've fallen so far
For the people you are
I just need your star for a day...'
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From low_fi25 at xxx.com  Mon Aug 28 23:08:51 2000
From: low_fi25 at xxx.com (Jacob Laurent)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:08:51 GMT
Subject: Sinister: A recommended CD
Message-ID: <F179z4r02V5xm4iZrbU00001718@hotmail.com>


i'm going to second that recommendation.
i just saw mirah on friday night with
'the microphones' and 'wolf colonel' in
san francisco. all those bands are worth
checking out

yrs,
jacob



>From: "Brier Random" <brier at xxx.com>
>Reply-To: "Brier Random" <brier at flavia.com>
>To: <sinister at missprint.org>
>Subject: Sinister: A recommended CD
>Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:49:20 -0700
>
>Heads up, kiddoes, for the BEST non-B&S CD of the year.  Her name is Mirah.
>The CD on K Records is called "You Think It's Like This But Really It's 
>Like
>This".  Absolute f**king godhead.  Trust me.  Buy it, steal it, borrow it,
>listen to it.  Trust me.
>
>Brier
>
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From jmcf at xxx.ca  Mon Aug 28 23:26:41 2000
From: jmcf at xxx.ca (jmcf)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:26:41 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Celtic 6 Rangers 2
References: <F236X2REZTBqmD9TgDW00000e20@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <39AAE721.B05EFB50@sympatico.ca>


That result even made the front of the Toronto Star newspaper.
The world rejoices!

Marty GGGGG wrote:
> 
> Ya fuckin' beauty! Even from half way around the globe the sweet taste of a
> Celtic victory has brought a huge grin to my face.
> HAIL HAIL SINISTERINES!
> Howzabout a B&S gig at Parkhead to celebrate once the league is won, with an
> all star support from the entire Bowlie / ATP lineup. That'll do nicely.
> Lineup recommendations?
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From mikedunkerley at xxx.com  Tue Aug 29 01:47:10 2000
From: mikedunkerley at xxx.com (Mike Dunkerley)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:47:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: No subject
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From egg.static at xxx.net  Tue Aug 29 01:54:21 2000
From: egg.static at xxx.net (Paul Laird)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 01:54:21 +0100
Subject: Sinister: A recommended CD
In-Reply-To: <00b901c01120$ad86eb60$729ef1d1@Brier.sb.net>
Message-ID: <B5D0C84D.5D6%egg.static@virgin.net>

Hi Kids,

As tempting as your new CD find sounds, I have learned to view list
recommendations with some scepticism following my purchase of "lips that
taste of tears" by Trembling Blue Stars which I have only listened
to/suffered once. Anyone want it? Pay the postage you can have it - and good
riddance.

The Eggman


on 28/8/2000 7:49 pm, Brier Random at brier at flavia.com wrote:

> Heads up, kiddoes, for the BEST non-B&S CD of the year.  Her name is Mirah.
> The CD on K Records is called "You Think It's Like This But Really It's Like
> This".  Absolute f**king godhead.  Trust me.  Buy it, steal it, borrow it,
> listen to it.  Trust me.
> 
> Brier

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From sebastian at xxx.com  Tue Aug 29 02:48:52 2000
From: sebastian at xxx.com (pedro simões)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:48:52 -0700
Subject: Sinister: the birthday's week
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From carle at xxx.com  Tue Aug 29 04:09:04 2000
From: carle at xxx.com (carle groome)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 23:09:04 -0400
Subject: Sinister: coincidental natality and a minor Jeff Buckley revelation
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egad, nisterines!
i've been plowing posts that've piled upon my plynth like peter piper's
pecks and have piddling of pith to place.

however, is it true that stuart murdoch's birthday is the 25th of
august? amazing! mine too! (and leonard bernstein's, but he's not having
any cake this year.)

Lawrence Mikkelsen wrote:

***NOW, MY TURN TO ASK A SILLY QUESTION***
Was listening to Jeff Buckley's "Grace" - a real evergreen of an album if
you ask me.
Anyone know what a "Mojo Pin" is though? I have *no* idea.


FYI: The co-author of the tune, Gary Lucas, informed me, some time ago,
that it was Jeff's personal slang for a syringe, with reference to
heroin usage. (Jeff was the singer/co-writer, briefly, in Gary's band
Gods & Monsters.) As I trust Gary, and as we both knew Jeff, I can state
categoricaly that it was not a case of junkie glorification. He was not
a heroin addict; it was just another of his darker flights of imagination.
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From garymaher at xxx.com  Tue Aug 29 05:03:04 2000
From: garymaher at xxx.com (garymaher at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 00:03:04 -0400
Subject: Sinister: a strange fear gripped me and i just couldn't post
Message-ID: <20000829.000419.-298727.7.garymaher@juno.com>

We must all respect each other's feelings.  The other day, I bought an
inexpensive, portable mono transistor radio.  It was at a flea market, as
we Americans refer to what essentially amounts to a junk bazaar.  I was
feeling nostalgic for my 70s childhood.  It was either the radio or an
8-track player, but I thought I'd have more listening options with the
radio.

Anyhow, shortly after this purchase, I noticed that my CDs would only
play in mono -- even the ones recorded in stereo.  This was acutely
obvious with my Zombies and middle-period Beatles CDs, hard-panned as
they are, since I was hearing mostly-only vocals or mostly-only backing
tracks.  Apparently, while I didn't realize it at the time, either the
CDs or the stereo (still not sure which was the culprit) had gotten the
wrong message -- that my purchase of the monaural radio indicated a
preference on my part for listening to things in mono.  Their feelings
were hurt.  In reaction, the stereo tracks somehow merged or went
missing, depending on the artist.

While this did result in some interesting new mixes of some of my
favorite records (for some reason, all of my ELO records filtered out
everything but the strings and Jeff's voice, sounding quite disembodied
and ethereal), it was rather disturbing.  After all, every artist should
have the right to determine how its music is mixed, and my stereo / CDs
had no business tampering with the finished product!  Besides, I missed
the lovely backing vocals on my TFC CDs, and Cotton Mather just isn't the
same without any guitars.  Whatever was behind this mutiny also had the
audacity to replace the real horns and strings on all of my beloved B&S
releases with really cheesy synthesizer reproductions.  (Bad 80s Yamaha
sounds, not even nice Korg patches.)  Claudio Reyna is from the next town
over from my home town and I feel bad his team was humiliated so badly,
but maybe that will rile them up enough to actually accomplish something
in Europe.  But that's beside the point.  Where was I?  Oh yes.

So I went to my CDs and demanded an answer.  "What's up with these
bizarre mixes?  How dare you?"  No response.  I turned to my stereo and
implored, "Please return yourself to your prior condition!  I miss
hearing my music in stereo!  Why are you doing this to me?"  "Hey, don't
look at me -- I'm inanimate, remember?" it replied.  "Oh, right, sorry,"
I apologized, feeling quite silly for having personified my audio
equipment.

Then things got strange.  Whatever CD I put on the stereo, only one song
would play (in mono) -- "Feelings".  (Yeah, the one from the 70s. 
Suppose I asked for that bit.)  Even more curious, every occurance of the
word "feelings" was replaced by the word "mono".  ("Mono, nothing more
than mono . . .")  Those were about the worst few days of my life, until
the light bulb went off.  I eventually realized that I had
unintentionally dissed the stereo portion of my CDs and/or my stereo
system by focusing my attention on the little mono transistor radio.  My
quest for nostalgia had caused modern audio technology to abandon me!  So
I sold the sucker on eBay for twice what I had paid for it, moved my
speakers farther apart for better separation, and, as quickly as it had
arisen, my little mono dilemma was history.

But now <gulp>, everything plays in quadraphonic.  And I still only have
two ears!
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From declan63 at xxx.com  Tue Aug 29 06:11:05 2000
From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 01:11:05 -0400
Subject: Sinister: coincidental natality
References: <39AB2941.1F451E54@rcn.com>
Message-ID: <006e01c01177$8914dc40$2a101218@athen1.ga.home.com>


----- Original Message -----
From: "carle groome" <carle at xxx.com>
To: <sinister at missprint.org>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 11:09 PM
Subject: Sinister: coincidental natality and a minor Jeff Buckley revelation


> egad, nisterines!
> i've been plowing posts that've piled upon my plynth like peter piper's
> pecks and have piddling of pith to place.
>
> however, is it true that stuart murdoch's birthday is the 25th of
> august? amazing! mine too! (and leonard bernstein's, but he's not having
> any cake this year.)

ah, but do not forget elvis costello as well!!

jay, who's hoping the u.s. postal service is going to be nice and deliver his sinister packages across the sea

"it was the fault....of the government....i was very......disappointed"


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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com  Mon Aug 28 22:59:33 2000
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:59:33 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Meridian Green Beams
Message-ID: <000001c0113b$617564c0$c149073e@default>

Hi All,

Apologies if this is a bit dull, blame brains having spent a relaxing Bank
Holiday listening to Shellac & And You Will Know Us By The Trail of Dead...


Yesterday I got up, donned my special maroon Happy Sinister Birthday
underpants & set off for the Anniversary Millenial Meridianal Picnic in
Greenwich PARK, which was great fun & full of


DRAMA!
Due to
(a) Richard's ambulance trip courtesy of an injury* incurred during the
footie (Kaiser Otto denied responsibility) &

(b) the torrential downpour later that saw assorted Sinisterines crowding on
the picnic tables huddled together under the umbrellas. Stevie T looked like
a garden gnome for a while on his own until a group rushed his table seeking
an entry in the Guinness Book Of Records for the most people under one
umbrella.

Soon even said umbrellas proved inadequate so the Café was invaded for
dryness & driers. Respite from rain saw the company head for the


PUB (Cutty Sark)
To dry off the outsides in the evening sun & wet the insides with London
Pride. Some very friendly local residents joined the group. A beautiful
sunset, Ray Davies a ghostly murmur in the background, tackling the
fiendishly devised Mozart-themed crossword, a Great Dane, Mark & Sally
paddling in the Thames, everybody looking at Mark's nipples, Mark staring at
everybody else's, me being accused of looking like an (American) tourist.


POST PUB
Hardcore picnicers invaded local residence to nod off, discuss being gay
(why do they always do that?), eat, compare nipples, make tunnel jokes, pull
faces, draw on faces, watch baseball & take the piss out of old people.


WHAT ELSE?
Liz's granny calls flapjacks jockstraps.

Honey would have been gratified by the snatch of snogging in the park.

Can't think of anything more.


Thanks to all those present throughout the day for making it a pleasure.

Love,

Big Grey David
Chelmsford, UK

(*luckily only a sprained ankle: OK later, monster bandage, no drugs)

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From julesmarkham at xxx.net  Tue Aug 29 09:57:05 2000
From: julesmarkham at xxx.net (julesmarkham)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:57:05 +0100
Subject: Sinister: a mini-fable
Message-ID: <000f01c01197$31495fc0$12478cd4@tonygeorge>

Jubilee lay down on the dense, wiry grass and sighed. The sticky heat of
summer was fading, and the air carried the rich scent of autumn like a
sweet, organic perfume.
She turned to the black fox, who was flopped in the shade of her shadow.
-why do things change but stay the same, fox?
The fox was idly snapping at the midges that hung in the air, the midday
quiet sliced by the click of her jaws.
~what d'you mean, Juby?
Jubilee sat up, brushing loose threads of grass from her hair.
-I mean... why is it always spring-summer-autumn, why is it meet
someone-fall in love-break up? The same process over and over. Why can't it
always be summer?
The fox narrowed her red eyes.
~You know the summer has to end sometime.
Jubilee said nothing, and the fox sat up, yawning and stretching her arched
spine.
~It's the wheel of stars, I guess.
-The what?
The fox looked up at the deep blue sky.
~If you were to focus on one star through the whole night, you'd see it
doesn't just hang there, it moves across the sky in an arc. Every night it
crosses the sky, and although it looks like the same route from such a
distance, it isn't. the difference is infinitesimal, but it is a difference.
The wheel of stars turns around us, and will turn long after we're gone.
The fox stretched out in the cool strip of shadow again.
~Three is the magic number, she muttered.
Jubilee stroked her warm, black fur.
-This guy called me a crone the other day. I think it was meant to be a
compliment.
~It was, you're either maiden. mother or crone. spring, summer or autumn.
-I'd rather be a maiden, jubilee muttered.
-What? Terminal puberty?
The fox shook her head and laughed.
~Or screaming children and all that cleaning?
Jubilee smiled at the thought.
~hope, sufferance or loss, beginning middle or end, spring summer or autumn.
You are one of the three, there is no choice there, it just is. You can
fight it, try to live in summer all year, but it'll wear you out eventually.
-So what are you saying, fox? I am what I am?
The fox closed her eyes.
-Fox! Don't you dare fall asleep on me!
~Now we rise and we are everywhere, the fox said cryptically.
Jubilee sighed and closed her eyes. It was too hot to think. The air held a
faint tang of decay, of leaf mold and smoke. And suddenly she longed for the
sleepy warmth of autumn.

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From knightowl at xxx.net  Tue Aug 29 06:55:07 2000
From: knightowl at xxx.net (Knightowl)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 01:55:07 -0400
Subject: Sinister: junk bonds
References: <F23131TZ14eBa1kg3Am00000773@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <00d801c0117e$0647e3a0$d81fd718@mountaincable.net>

> at least bush is offering a sensible alternative, investing and
controlling
> our own retirement money

Yes indeed, members of the Bush family have a strong track record when it
comes to investing other people's money..................<snicker>

But what's all this nonsense I've come back to regarding "I would vote for
Nader but I won't cause he can't win"?
Thats hardly the logic you want to run a democracy with is it?
Maybe Nader won't win, but if he does really well, two things might happen.
One, his message might start to get out. And two, next time he'll do even
better, until eventually, a thrid party candidate will actually win! You
have to start it somewhere.

If you vote for gush or bore, you only have yourself to blame.

Now, enough of this political stuff, its back to my Judy Bloom books. Last
time, I came too soon....

Ed




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From dewar at xxx.uk  Tue Aug 29 12:42:41 2000
From: dewar at xxx.uk (Dewar)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:42:41 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Jingles! Cabaret! Merseybeat!
Message-ID: <009501c011ae$3ef68960$211c883e@oemcomputer>

Hi there,
            I had one of the most miserable days of my life up Arthur's Seat
when i went on a geology field trip. Incessant rain all day meant i came out
with a paper mache notebook with "I hate this crap" written on in pencil.
That was my day's work. To make things worse the other bus that went decided
it was too wet so went to the pub instead. But no, we had to have the
over-enthusiastic lecturer, didn't we?

So i don't want anybody asking me about what the geology of the hill is
like, as frankly i wasn't listening, and even if i was i couldn't hear
because of my kagule. I gave up geology that year.

Nice place in summer though, i'm sure!

Rafe!!


>speaking of arthurs seat ? Would who have thought Id get pleasure out of
>writing about it? WE decided upon it one day, our after work mission
>instead of going to co-op and agonising over dora spaghetti , we would do
>something constructive not destructive. Ug-lee ali our boss gave us some
>unwelcome advice before hand.Only it wasnt advice , it was boastful words
>cunningly disguised as advice. "i went up it three times on my bike" he
>said , boastfully.
>Shut up uglee ali. we all muttered  under our  breath before the
>adventure. WE met up with the most miserable guest in the world , in whose
>honour we were climbing the stupid thing. Being over excited , we wandered
>into a nearby slum, and feared for out lives. Then i bravely appraoched an
>old man  and asked him the embarrassing question of how do you get up the
>mountain. He mumbled something about the other side which we chose to
>ignore and proceeded up posssibly the steepest mountain in the world. Anne
>decided to be the hike leader which amazed and astounded everyone, except
>the unpleasantest guest in the world, because anne is the laziest person
>youll ever meet. WE took many a wrong turn and we overtaken by young
>children and old ladies alike. Eventually (maybe 4 hours later) we reached
>the summit. WE clung to the triangulation station , mentioned earlier by
>young ian, for dear life , twas very windy up there.  Then we ventured out
>to admire the view. Smoking was out of the question, it was much too cold
>and our lungs  had completely collapsed. Even louise the perpetual smoker,
>decided against one. Next thing, wouldnt you know, ungrateful guest
>starts complaining lots about being cold. Tough shit, we wanted to
>say. WE're here now, it took almost five hours. shut up and look at the
>beautiful view. But her complaining increased  in volume and pitch and we
>gave in to her petty demands. another half hour later , having found the
>simple way down, we were at the bottom, cherub cheeked from our first bit
>of exercise in years. WE were so tired that we punished the ungrateful
>guest with a surprise night in, and sprung the surpirse on her, subtly by
>dragging the duvets in to watch TV. No makeup was being put on our faces,
>it was TV night, regardless of whether it was miserable guests last night
>or not.
>My thesis is due is sooooooooo soon. Im so scared. is it possible to get 3
>6,000 word chapters an introduction , conclusion and expensive binding
>done? oh it must be, or else these mouth ulcers are all for nothing.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
>Disclaimer : the information which is obtained through a quiet perusal of
>these emails should be absorbed by osmosis. Allow one to two
>years for the genius of each and every intentional spelling mistake and
>grammtical error to sink in for maximum effect. Recognising that Denise
>sometimes embellishes stories and leans towards outright lies is important
>for your own acumen of the holistic elements of the emails. Should your
>knee get itchy whilst you read emails from Denise, she is completely
>unresponsible unless of course, she happens to be tickling your knee. Then
>it is right and proper to stick something smaller than your elbow into her
>ear with the sole purpose to hurt her. That'll teach her.
>
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From jeanette at xxx.com  Tue Aug 29 09:47:16 2000
From: jeanette at xxx.com (Jeanette)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:47:16 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Like Dylan in red undies
Message-ID: <39AB7893.5D7602E0@ktc.com>

Hello.

Now that he's joined the world of the employed, my
soon-to-be-adopted-son Jason Andreas doesn't have access to Sinister
during the day. He asked me to pass along the note below.

hugs,
Jeanette

P.S. Honey, my dear, red is definitely *not* this season's black in the
underwear department.  The only red bra I could find  was a 42DD. Yikes!
I don't think I even *own* enough socks to fill *that*.


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -



Hi all.

I have a dilemma.

For three weeks I've owed my mum a lot of money, and was therefore
unable to afford a Bob Dylan (who I'm *desperate* to see) ticket for
Glasgow.
She finally, this morning, after lots of begging, allowed me to hang on
to enough money to finally afford it.

They sold out last night.

I am devastated.

So I have two possible solutions....

1) If *anyone* has, or knows someone who has, a Bob Dylan ticket for
sale for the Glasgow SECC gig, can you *please* mail me at
jasonandreas at breathemail.net and give me an asking price.

2) Cry a lot.

I've tried (2) - it doesn't help. I'm hoping that (1) will.

You have the power to help me, folks - don't let me down....

- Jason





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From Mark at xxx.com  Tue Aug 29 14:48:12 2000
From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:48:12 +0100
Subject: Sinister: The cocks are revolting!
Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22011D30B9@SERVER1>

A quickie:

EARS
Emily, I have your ears. Send me your address and I'll get them off to you.

BEERS
Picnic was grate. Whoever took the photos of 30 sinisterines crouched under
leaking umbrellas in a torrential storm on top of a hill should send them to
Hunny as quick as they can. If we're lucky, there may be the odd wet t-shirt
in there somewhere (although, as I was repeatedly told, I don't need
moisture to get me standing to attention in the smuggling peanuts
department).

WEIRS
Mucking about on the Thames is FUN! Sally and Alix got their tootsies a bit
muddy, but we did catch crabs and ancient pottery, and Sally kept yelping
and stabbing herself with rusty metal and stuff, which was entertaining. I'd
thoroughly recommend it. It's not even that polluted any more!

TEARS
Sorry once again to BG Richard, who I didn't cripple on purpose. Honest. And
I didn't mean to run away when the police came, it was all a coincidence. Oh
dear, it doesn't look very good, does it?

QUEERS
So who watched Spartacus yesterday? Cor! Dear old Larry makes a wonderful
queen, though Tony Curtis was truly the most homoerotic screen presence
since Walter Matthau. What a striking film. Gene Simmons out of Kiss was the
female romantic lead, and I must say with more subtle make-up he's quite a
honey (q.v.).

Is it hot in here or is it just me?

Mark xxx



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From CaMo81 at xxx.com  Tue Aug 29 15:59:03 2000
From: CaMo81 at xxx.com (CaMo81 at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:59:03 EDT
Subject: Sinister: No Psychopathic ravings this time.
Message-ID: <e.1a20827.26dd29b7@aol.com>

    Hi again all. No psychopathic mumbo jumbo from me today, I'm in harmless 
twee mode. Heh, looks like someone addressed the unsubscribe e-mail to the 
wrong one. Serves you right for trying to leave!  Then again, he probably has 
his reasons. I'm being too harsh.  Sinister isn't some web of deceit that 
draws you in and never lets you out. Or is it?

Pedro said:
>Someone said here (i can't remember who, sorry) that B&S are a great sound 
for< >traveling. yes, i think that too. i think they're the perfect 
soundtrack for walking in< >the streets, for my supermarket time, for my 
stupid and endless bus life. <

    Couldn't agree with you more.  B&S is pretty much perfect for anything.  
Riding a bike, walking, sitting by a fire, driving, scuba diving, flying into 
space, fighting Nazi's, going on safari, performing voodoo, operating a 
guillotine in 18th century France...Uh oh I said no psycho mumbo jumbo, oh 
well.

But seriously, I fell asleep on the beach to "Roller-Coaster Ride" yesterday, 
and when I woke up I felt very rejuvenated and energetic, even though I only 
slept for about 5 minutes. I probably looked rather out of place among the 
bathing suits and towels. I was sleeping on my side wearing khakis and a 
sweater.

And to finish this post, I shall now improvise a short limerick using my 2 
favorite things; Tea and the word "Twee":

"There once was a boy who drank tea,
He said that it made him feel twee,
He put sugar in it
With a spoon he did spin it
And then played Le Pastie"'
 
    Ahh sorry I couldn't think of a good last line.  Anyway, I'm off. 

            
                                                        Derek

P. S i apologize to any Neo-Nazis, ex-Nazis or guillotine operating voodoo 
performers whom I may have offended.

P.P.S: My 16th birthday was August 24th so I'm proud to share my birthday 
week with not only Stu M., but Sinister as well! How Twee!
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From mark_e_hester at xxx.com  Tue Aug 29 16:49:55 2000
From: mark_e_hester at xxx.com (Mark Hester)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:49:55 BST
Subject: Sinister: fleas, markets and trousers
Message-ID: <F160GML4bf84SFqzx1V00002388@hotmail.com>

Gary Maher: not just 'you americans' but 'we brits' refer to those 
biza...sorry bazaar thingies as flea markets.  But does anyone know why?  
I've certainly never come away from one itching.  I heard once that the 
fleas that infest humans are all descended from the deer flea.  Which does 
call into question the habits of our ancestors.  See, it could have been far 
worse, Ken, your father might have suspected that you had illicit carnal 
relations with Bambi.

Liz: I, too saw those trousers in Parks Road, but in my case curiosity got 
the better of me and I *did* actually don them in the hopes that they were a 
portal to another universe.  I was not disappointed.  This new universe was 
identical to the one we inhabit in every respect, with one small exception, 
nobody but nobody drew on the faces of wet, sleeping picnickers.

For those coming to the Oxford picnic....the University Parks are utterly 
devoid of umbrellas!  The next record-breaking attempt will have to wait 
until the next Greenwich one I'm afraid.

Now, who took those pictures......?!

Mark.
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From dangerousangel6 at xxx.com  Tue Aug 29 17:13:45 2000
From: dangerousangel6 at xxx.com (bela london)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:13:45 PDT
Subject: Sinister: fleas, markets and trousers
Message-ID: <F131atd4gmSknvh7wFI00000e5f@hotmail.com>

>
>For those coming to the Oxford picnic....the University Parks are utterly
>devoid of umbrellas!  The next record-breaking attempt will have to wait
>until the next Greenwich one I'm afraid.
>
>Now, who took those pictures......?!
>
>Mark.


hey  hey hey..

did i miss something?  is there going to be a picnic right here in oxford?  
can someone write me and let me know if there is and when and where and 
maybe even write to tell me there is not one?

alright  thanks
xxxbela
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From Lorraine.Hosie at xxx.uk  Tue Aug 29 17:42:33 2000
From: Lorraine.Hosie at xxx.uk (Lorraine Hosie)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:42:33 +0100
Subject: Sinister: The snapshots of my mind...
Message-ID: <F0EC21C5F871D41187B900805FCC276642E6D4@EXCHANGE-SERVER>

Now, who took those pictures......?!

I did.  With my disposable black & white "funcam" and no flash.  I'm not
holding out for crystal clear results, but will report back after the next
visit to Snappy Snaps.  Until then, we'll have to make do with the snapshots
of our minds...

Here are some of mine...

Amorous Squirrels, 
blood-letting, 
ice-leakage, 
sandal-leakage,

bluuurrrrr...
...  zzzzzz ...
.......driiiiinng!

Sick
Cigarette
Sick
Lucozade
Sick

Yours, with a nice warm feeling inside (and little else)
Lorraine x 




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From lucyalder at xxx.com  Tue Aug 29 18:11:27 2000
From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:11:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister:  French fancies and mouldy pancakes
Message-ID: <20000829171127.8417.qmail@web1603.mail.yahoo.com>

Mmm, there's nothing like a long weekend to make you really, really, really not want to go to work
after it.  But ah, the picnic was a goodie.  Some mad Greek girl with the long, dark locks has
finally made it over to London, so that made the picnic even nicer.  But this one's destined to go
down in history as 'the picnic where it pissed down', for it did.  And then some.  My red knickers
got damp in a thoroughly un-smutty way.  But talking of smut, David Moore wrote

> Honey would have been gratified by the snatch snogging in the park.

Well!  I'm sure Miss Honey would have been gratified, because she's a lady who likes it dirty, but
had I seen such a thing, I would have put a stop to it straight away with a few sharp bashes from
my handbag.  Kids these days!  In public!

On Saturday, I wore tights with seams up the back and my very highest heels and danced the night
away to boogiemusic spun by Chris G and Richard C.  Particularly amusing was the young man who
thought Mark C was in B&S and proceeded to congratulate him on such a fine album.  Ha!  I stole a
poster from the ladies' even though it wasn't allowed, cos I'm a rebel, I am.

Oh, and there's proper, pertinent content coming up right now.  I've had a good old rummage around
in the archives and I can't find any references to this, so here goes...

Last Saturday, I was staying with my Mum and Dad in Woking, so I thought I'd go into the local
second hand record shop and talk Northern Soul with the nice man behind the counter.  I rifled
through some boxes of singles, discussed the merits of various compilation albums and he offered
to make a tape for me (my sister pointed out that this has Significance in High Fidelity but I
think he was just being nice).  Then, he mentioned he had a box set of three videos about Northern
Soul.  "They're really crap," he said, "but if you'd like to borrow them and bring them back next
time you come in the shop, you'd be very welcome to".  What a nice man!  So I took them home and
put the first one on and verily it was crap.  The person who made it (Ian Levine, former Northen
DJ and East 17 manager, yes indeed) went to the States and filmed old Northern Soul sensations
miming to their record of thirty-odd years ago in their front room or in the local park.  Then,
remember those rave videos you used to get with dodgy kaleidoscopic effects on them?  He's gone
and added those over the top.  And Doris Troy has a magic colour-change dress!  

Then, about twenty minutes into the first video, what do you know?  Up pop Mr Chris G and Miss
Isobel C!  Chris talks about the first time he went to a Northern club and how the DJs talk
between records and then he breaks out into very disturbing, high pitched laughter. 
Teeeeeeeeheeeeeeeeeeheeeeeeeeeee!  Just like that!  Isobel just sits there looking purty.  The
legend reads "Belle & Sebastian Winners of the 1999 Brit Award for Best New Band They Love
Northern Soul", no punctuation or anything.  Like I said, it's a crap video, apart from one bit,
but that goes without saying.  Actually, there might be more than one bit of interview but I
haven't even finished the first video yet, so if there is I will report back.  And if you're
interested in getting hold of the set of videos, it's called The Strange World Of Northern Soul
and I haven't got the foggiest where you can get it from or how much it would cost.  There, wasn't
that informative?

Brier Random talked about Mirah's loveliness and I'd like to second that.  She has the voice of an
angel.  If you'd like to verify for yourself, you might like to try going to
http://www.indiepopradio.com and having a listen because she often pops up on the playlist. 
That's the only time I'm ever going to mention indiepopradio because I've already blathered on
about it to my mates for weeks and they'll hit me if I don't shut up soon.  But I think it's quite
good.

Yay!  The footie season has started again!  I know that's a bit of a delayed reaction, but my
team, the magnificent Woking FC, started off with two defeats so those matches didn't count
(honest).  They're not the church mice of the Conference, but they ain't rich.  Even so, if we
could afford Figo, I doubt we'd want him because we've got one of the Greats Of World Literature
instead.  I found this at http://www.cardsweb.co.uk

DANTE IMPRESSIVE FOR RESERVE TEAM
Dante Alighieri must surely be pushing Rob Hollingdale for that left wingback slot in the first
team - he turned in another impressive performance for the reserve team against Hampon & Richmond
Borough on Wednesday night. 

Move him to the first team post haste, I say.  And while on the subject of football, weren't
Rangers and Celtic playing at the weekend?  What was the score again?

Blimey, what a long'un!

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From K3r3i3s3 at xxx.com  Tue Aug 29 18:30:34 2000
From: K3r3i3s3 at xxx.com (K3r3i3s3 at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:30:34 EDT
Subject: Sinister: (no subject)
Message-ID: <9f.a0e38cf.26dd4d3b@aol.com>

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From iaradcliffe at xxx.com  Tue Aug 29 19:32:08 2000
From: iaradcliffe at xxx.com (Iain Radcliffe)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 19:32:08 BST
Subject: Sinister: London Calling
Message-ID: <LAW2-F115h8s4KWiGtX00001b4a@hotmail.com>

Hello Sinister types,

Name Dropping Bit

I don't normally name-drop, but that's only because I never meet anyone 
famous, except JK Rowling, and she didn't speak to me.
However, I had canapes with Magnus "Mastermind" Magnusson the Magnificent 
today, and he was a delighful old cove.
He was opening a path no less, and spoke very eloquently to the assembled 
dignitaries about paths and related.
He told me he was a pagan whilst smoking a pipe and drinking wine, (with 
abandon since he's recently been banned for drink driving) and for some 
reason JRR Tolkein sprang to mind.

Tenuous Link Section

So that was cool, and what also is cool is JJ72's debut is out and you all 
have to buy it. Trust me on this one, and I'll refund the difference if it 
ain't bootiful.

Need friends and tour guides bit

I'm coming dahn Lahndan (is this correct lingo?) on Saturday, and would 
request any friendly and fancy free types who would like to show me around 
and indulge in some pintage to email me or call 0181 735 9825 from Saturday 
onwards.

Bibliography

Harry Potter 1-4 - JK Rowling
The Art of Sensual Massage - A Random

Acknowlegements

Magnus Magnusson
Nasty Nick Bateman
A Scary Hermit
Twitchy the Tramp

I Remain Your Faithful

Jarvis
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From feather-boa at xxx.com  Tue Aug 29 20:29:50 2000
From: feather-boa at xxx.com (feather boa)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:29:50 -0700
Subject: Sinister: sequined and safety-pinned
Message-ID: <IMJFKBCMKCIKFAAA@shared3.whowhere.com>

hello.

it seems to me that a lot of sinisterines are virgos (including the list) i wonder if being twee is a virgo trait... it's my birthday on friday, i'm going to be all of 19, me and one of my friends are going to see radiohead in newport to celebrate.  i sent my dad into the depths of banchory.net to get me a t-shirt, so i can take it to uni with me.  there was a boy at heaven last nite in a very fetching white flappyclap t-shirt with black 3/4 length sleeves, with the "evil" twin on the front, which i coveted extremely although it did raise the question are b&s following fashions?.

and yes, i have other news.  i have results: a b c which is pleasingly logical, and allows me to feel smug when i hear a certain jackson 5 song.  and even better, although york said they wanted a a b, they said i could still come, so i'm heading oop noarth in october.

i went to reading, i wore red underwear on sunday, and i saw carsmile steve twice in the carling premier tent, but i was too scared to go up to him.  aren't i pathetic?

i've been meaning to say this for ages... apparently steps are starting their autumn tour in butlins, see what i mean about how they secretly want to be b&s, it's frightening.

pip pip,

FB

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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Tue Aug 29 12:30:10 2000
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:30:10 +0200
Subject: Sinister: The Young Mop's Forgotten Story*
Message-ID: <000401c011f8$2d42fba0$07a8243e@itjfvkli>

Has the Cutty Sark been turned into a pub? Hooray!

Ray Bradbury, sci-fi superstar, says e-mail is a waste of time. Has he been
reading the archives?

Elizabeth, I'm quite grown-up when the mood takes me.

I'm sure everybody loses touch with some friends, but I always think that
aside from laziness, it must be caused by some kind of abyss, a secret chasm
of unlikemindedness, some kind of crossed wire, a lack of common purpose, or
their refusal to let us shag them.

He who is tired of CHICKEN RUN is tired of life. CHICKEN RUN fans, can you
spot the TWO links between CHICKEN RUN and the 70s WHO? I bought The WHO By
Numbers a week or two ago. The music's not much cop, to be painfully honest,
but the accompanying photographs are a joy to behold. Moon is actually
FLYING above his drumkit at one stage. Roger has once again borrowed his
mum's chamois leathers to wear like a window cleaning red indian. "I'm just
off out to clean the car, mum" he said before scooting off on tour without
telling his mum not to bother making his tea. "Now, where can little Roger
have got to?" wonders Mrs Daltrey as Roger hurls himself into a startlingly
powerful rendition of "See Me, Feel Me" in Swansea.

Thanks for that aerial view of Edinburgh the other day. I'm sure I spied wee
Keithy Weithy scurrying along from avant-garde fringe theatre workshop to
avant-grade fringe theatre workshop. My favourite book about Edinburgh is
"The Confessions of a Justified Sinner" by wee James Hogg. My second
favourite book about Edinburgh is "Splat Finally Manages to Shag a Squirrel"
by wee P.S. Mitchell, his trainer.

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From gogron at xxx.uk  Tue Aug 29 21:42:10 2000
From: gogron at xxx.uk (gogron)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 21:42:10 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Ibis Hotel, midnight
Message-ID: <39AC2022.C5674158@netscapeonline.co.uk>

So I was in the Ibis hotel around midnight with some stray Malboros
waiting for a minicab to deliver me elsewhere. This would be the
beginning of a story except for the fact that all the major events
preceeded it. So it became a lonely night...
I've just been reading some of your posts about the picnic, which made
me smile; now little words on the screen are people, and what a crowd!
Hehe, one of the nicest bunches of people ever, all shining in the rain;
shivering outside the pub, so far from home, the music starting to play;
the warm feeling rising like dawn under the skin: see how I'm getting
all mushy now?
Evidently the 'bank holiday' was not one on my own workplace's calendar,
so there was some hungover laughing-off of my unexpected absence
yesterday. Building Control were on strike, cutting short a few calls.
And, to the person with the leg that needs to get better, may you
recover quickly.
And, to the person with the hand that is slowly getting better: no
worries; you're a darling. Make that carreer happen! And visit the
National Portrait Gallery by Trafalgar Square: there is this fantastic
electronic portrait of a neuroscientist down in the basement: entry is
free; then go up the escalator to see the portraits of Queen Liz 1's
prime courtier: the expression on his face is priceless and the paint is
so glossy.
500 year's worth of cool.
3 years of red underwear.
500 more years to you all.

#:)
Gordon (Rousseau)

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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Tue Aug 29 22:22:45 2000
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 22:22:45 +0100
Subject: Sinister: A thundering day's hangover...
Message-ID: <200008292121.WAA11026@missprint.org>

Hi,

.. is the result of a rather lovely picnic!  It was quite fun... and it 
stayed bright for a whole 3 hours before pouring the bucket... the rain 
came down with great velocity (pun hehe) and we tried to stay dry under 
some umbrella thing before realising that it's futile and invaded the 
upstairs of the cafe which was the "party" area..  Looking at the 
"partiness" of that place it was just as well us drunkards were there 
to spice up their party!

Then I didn't remember very much :) After Carey and Rob suppiled me with 
a generous portion of Industrial Strength Vodka and Red Bull (gasp!!!) 
to keep me stimulated :)

It was lovely to have met you all and thanks for making my day such a good 
one.. I haven't had such a good time since, er, the last picnic!!  I think 
there should be more picnics, MORE!!!

The next day, hungover, Olivier (who we discovered at the picnic to have 
a striking - pun hehe - resemblance to Tore Andre Flo and Struan!) and I 
went to the Notting Hill carnival and it was quite fun, I was feeling a bit 
rough tho so no beer for me, so I just drank some you-know-what stimulation 
:) before getting squished by 9489024 people when we tried to get out... 
but in a fun way.

Then when we got home, we compared our B&S CDs, and (wait for it) they 
ALL LOOK DIFFERENT!  A few of the CDs have slightly different fonts, and 
the one set of the covers of TBWTAS and IYFS are greener/redder than the 
other!  So you think you had the whole set of CDs in your colletion.. 
think again!!!

Wow, a post from me with B&S contents!!!  I must have had way too much 
stimulation, but then, no, one can never have too much stimulation :)

Hugs and Red Bulls xxx
Ken
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From brier at xxx.com  Tue Aug 29 22:29:57 2000
From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:29:57 -0700
Subject: Sinister: A thundering day's hangover...
Message-ID: <03f201c01200$482d4440$729ef1d1@Brier.sb.net>

>Priest in a booth, had a photographic memory of all he had heard
>he took a note of my sins, and he wrote a pocket novel
>called "The state I am in"
>- Belle & Sebastian


But surely it's "He took ALL OF my sins"???

And a mate of mine recently asked, "is the whole song a dream?" since it
starts with Stru being reminded of a dream.  I told my mate, surely no it's
not a dream.  It all happened to him.

Either way, it's the best song I've ever heard in my whole life (no joke)
and ever expect to.




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From DelyM2 at xxx.com  Wed Aug 30 08:00:51 2000
From: DelyM2 at xxx.com (DelyM2 at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 03:00:51 EDT
Subject: Sinister: sew, a needle pulling thread
Message-ID: <b0.9be6726.26de0b23@aol.com>

I sent away for a looper shirt awhile back.  its been sitting in my room for 
so long unworn, because i bought the wrong size. so tonight, i finally 
decided i was going to have to do something about it.    i cut it up and 
sewed it.         it fits much better now. although the sleeves are slightly 
crooked .        i cut an aweful lot .    maybe i could sell the  left over 
material on ebay.    any bidders?



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From angel_blackwell at xxx.com  Wed Aug 30 13:22:31 2000
From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (angel blackwell)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 08:22:31 EDT
Subject: Sinister: too much monopoly...
Message-ID: <F249c7wo95EFk2H3b9800002861@hotmail.com>

star wars monopoly is deadly...
or was it the smithicks??? not sure...
i finally didn't lose playing a board game,
i was boba fett so i had to do well...
the bf won though...
with 10, 000 empirial credits...
ever lost an argument b/c you couldn't back it up properly...
when calling someone a bigot,
one should have a solid argument...
well, he is a bigot, just the rest of my complaint was crap
the picnics have sounded loverly, i wish i was on sinister
when i was in engerland last summer...
i was travelling everywhere with our fave lil'band though,
the countryside outside of colchester is even prettier
with a great cd...i was riding around on the
back of a motorbike with twattybus in my discman...
ahhh...now i miss my little cousin...
k...i found a place for a picnic in toronto...
and since dame diana is back and debs should be back soon...
unless someone has tied her up and won't let her go...
(ooh, that sounds delicious)
where was i...k...you little people should be all
back in toronto at school in a week, and light on studies,
so we should have a picnic soon...
this site has a few homeless, but very loverly flowers...
no place for to play games with balls...
now i'm being silly...
back to work...
a.
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From CaMo81 at xxx.com  Wed Aug 30 16:53:36 2000
From: CaMo81 at xxx.com (CaMo81 at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 11:53:36 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Daily ravings
Message-ID: <86.173d9e.26de8800@aol.com>

I'm back for my daily ravings and stupid questions.  
Stupid question 1) My friend told me he didn't understand why B&S are 
associated with tweeness. At first I couldn't think of an answer, but then I 
said it was a combination of Stu M's voice and their sound.  I guess that's 
right, is it?
He also asked me why I want to dress twee, and I couldn't give him a good 
answer. I don't know why he asked, he dresses twee also!  Eventually I said 
because I like screwing with the masses, and since I dressed in all black and 
such last year, it would be an interesting change. That seemed to satisfy 
him. At which point we were chased by an apparently rabid stray dog and then 
shot at by some kids in a van with pellet guns. They had lousy aim though, 
filthy hoodlums!  Anyone who lives in suburbia knows about the wannabe inner 
city kids that drive around with the bass blasting in their cars. Buggers 
wouldn't last a day in the real city.  The people in the ghetto are all 
trying to get out but these arses are trying to get in.  I swear if I went 
insane there would be a lot of dead people.
Stupid question 2) Does anyone know anything more on that Monica person who 
sings on LLPJ.  I just heard it for the first time the other day and was 
surprised when I heard a different voice (I hadn't read the liner notes yet). 
 Anyway, the LLPJ set is grate. 
    Well, I'm off to Pennsylvania this weekend for some lakeside fun with a 
few friends. I'm hoping the temperature is cool so I can wear my new 
sweaters. My last little vacation before my parole is up and I have to return 
to that social prison known as school.  "You get an F because you don't obey 
like a circus monkey!" 

Well, I think I've rambled enough for today. Goodnight Sinister, where ever 
you lay your head.
                                                        Derek

                                

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From acook at xxx.uk  Wed Aug 30 19:56:55 2000
From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 19:56:55 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Referential, differential, vertical integration
References: <LAW-F136u1enHv1cO9M00002351@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <39AD58F7.D0F0C688@cs.strath.ac.uk>

This post will probably bore most of you stiffless, but then, no change
there. I apologise.

The delectable Mr PF had to say (why, heaven above only knows):
 
> Alasdair Cook is out at the moment. But he's bought some records and I think
> you should get him to tell you about them. They're gggrrreat.

Interesting statement. Possibly correct. I did indeed buy *some*
records, 13 in all I believe, in but 2 different shops. For a bargain
price of...oh, I forget, and details are not what are important here. Or
perhaps they are. But only certain details, pertaining to the specific 3
records (and 2 of them, whisper it, actually ARE) which PF is so
fervently interested in. These being:

Easy Pieces - Lloyd Cole and The Commotions, 1985
Raintown - Deacon Blue, 1987
Lloyd Cole (X) - Lloyd Cole, 1990

It seems fitting to start, as is usually best, at the beginning. And in
The Beginning there was 'Rattlesnakes'. Now let's not beat about the
proverbial here, this was, still is and ever will be one of the single
most perfect incarnations of The Pop Record ever to have graced that
strange, contradictory decade known as the 1980s. Yes, standing with
'You can't hide your love..', 'Murmur', 'Queen is Dead', and all the
ones I can't remember or haven't heard yet. Yes! Soaring and swooping
and whispering in the shadows and hollering from the rooftops "why can't
it be like this all the time?!".

And the answer is, well, just because. So stick it up yer jumper and
bloody well accept yer lot. And 'Easy Pieces' is yer lot, so to speak.
Not a lot, but you might like it. I do, kind of. Yes, it's dull in
parts, yes, it doesn't quite have the same youthful charm as it's
predescessor, but, well, it is what it is. Reasonable, if not
triumphant, with Cut Me Down my own personal high point. I mean, how can
you fail to be bowled over by a line like "I hang upon your pretty
frown"? Answers on a postcard.

Speaking of Postcard, you could say that Deacon Blue are the other side
of that peculiarly wonderful coin. Which is not to say that they are, in
essence, bad. It's just...well, the songs are often there, I mean you
can see them, God knows you can almost feel then, and then suddenly
they're lost forever under blankets of rubbish production, crap guitar
parts and Lorraine MacIntosh's incessant wailing. Alright, so it's not
that bad really, I mean there are high points (Dignity of course, The
Very Thing) and the cover's lovely, a cloudy Dundee (one assumes), but
the whole thing just doesn't quite work for me. A fact which I was going
to apologise for, but I shan't.

Finally, we come to the boy Cole's first solo outing, all black leather
and gruff sleeve with Bad Cowboy stubble. Inside though, we find some
soft centres (leopards and spots, eh?). The single 'No Blue Skies' is
possibly the finest thing here, as Lloyd accuses "Baby you're too well
read". It seems self-depreciation is the new black. Elsewhere 'Loveless'
is gorgeous ("why do you say you love me/when you don't?"), and
'Undressed' is pleading and pretty wonderful. It doesn't quite sustain
itself over 13 tracks though, in fact the last 3 could have been omitted
without too much fuss from me, but it's all about compromises, folks,
and I'll happily take the rough with the smooth. Two adjectives which
can be applied to Lloyd Cole in almost equal measure. Long may he keep
slowing down.

Disclaimer: Opinions on these albums are subject to possible change over
time. You've all pressed delete by now, haven't you? La la la la la
monkey tennis.

Oh, there was this little thing:
> That result even made the front of the Toronto Star newspaper.
> The world rejoices!
> 
> Marty GGGGG wrote:
> > 
> > Ya fuckin' beauty! Even from half way around the globe the sweet taste of a
> > Celtic victory has brought a huge grin to my face.

Not the whole world, mate. Still, with De Boer signed and Mols back,
it'll be a doddle from now on. Ya dancer, goan yersel etc.

Ken:
> Two tankers, one carrying red paint, one blue paint, collided in the North 
> sea, all the penguins were marooned...

Surely there are no penguins in the North Sea, unless they've escaped
from the nearest zoo. Perhaps a daring "zoo-break" has been achieved by
a collective animal 'resistance' operation. I heard the oran-utangs were
sceptical of changes in their cages, that could have been what sparked
the whole thing off. Oh, and always be nice to insects folks. Can you
imagine if they waged war on us? We'd be gubbed, no problem.

There are times in life when you know you should stop talking. 

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From geoffpritchard at xxx.com  Wed Aug 30 19:41:24 2000
From: geoffpritchard at xxx.com (Geoff)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 19:41:24 +0100
Subject: Sinister: they don't want to upset the apple cart, and they don't wanna cause any harm
Message-ID: <00aa01c012b4$90e342c0$3dc401d5@oemcomputer>

Someone said:
>Gary Maher: not just 'you americans' but 'we brits' refer to those
>biza...sorry bazaar thingies as flea markets.  But does anyone know why?

I don't know why they are called such, but many years ago a Flea Market came
to our town and sold loads of broken action figures for 30p each.  My mates
brother purchased loads of these grrreat toys, and hence has been known as
'Flea' ever since.

Flea's mate got a job in a fruit and veg a couple of years ago and after a
weeks work the recession-hit greengrocer claimed he could not afford to pay
the lad, but would instead give him the value of his wages in food.  His mom
wasn't best pleased when he showed up with tonnes of ripe fruit instead of
cash.  It's a good job that his wages weren't paid directly into his account
as cash-machines cannot dispense pineapples.  Just lately the cash machines
I use have enough trouble giving me cash.

A couple of weeks ago I got soaked in London and on the way home I read the
front of someone's Evening Standard.  The main headline was "F.O. TO RESCUE
HOSTAGES  'They've done nothing sinister', says minister."  Subvert
normality.

Someone else said:
"Who needs cloning when one can have TopShop?"

Our audience said:
Why stop at TopShop?  Who needs cloning when one can have McDonalds, Burger
King, Gap, Yates, Bar Coast, HMV, Starbucks, Coffee Republic etc. in every
town in England.  "They" have cloned one town and put it all over the
country, and eventually the world.  I wonder which town was the original
sell out?

I don't know what happened to the Flea market though.

Geoff

ps just heard on the news that Time Warner have snapped up the Flea Market
market.



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From rob_brennan at xxx.uk  Wed Aug 30 20:42:51 2000
From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 20:42:51 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: An un-fuzzed head
Message-ID: <20000830194251.27440.qmail@web310.mail.yahoo.com>

Many thanks to David, Ken & Gordon for filling some of
the many gaps in my memories of Sunday after my
reckless grape/grain mixing experiments (Baaaad
hangover).  There was definitely a pub involved - oh
yeah and the
greatest-number-of-damp-grate-pop-kids-that-can-be-wedged-under-one-umbrella
record attempt.  Fantastic!  Massive props to all the
lovely people who were there - especially those lovely
people to whom I now owe drinks. 

I also managed to stretch the limits of my alcohol
autopilot and successfully navigate the various trains
and fiendish streets across 80 miles to get home. 
Unfortunately my train passed through Guildford just
in time to pick up a load of pissed up townies saying
things like "Fuck!", "Oi!", "Weeeyyggghhh!" and "You
gave me a black eye you c***!".  I would've been
scared if I wasn't off me tits.  Luckily I was.

Sticking to beer for a bit.

Robster 

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From gpallis at xxx.uk  Wed Aug 30 20:56:41 2000
From: gpallis at xxx.uk (Greg Pallis)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 20:56:41 +0100
Subject: Sinister: The best looking girls are staying inside...
Message-ID: <004501c012bc$6b1ba7a0$112629d4@default>

> "You get an F because you don't obey like a circus monkey!"

"Your Textbook Is The Only GOD!". Any other Squee fans out there?

I went back to school again today. Being a sixth-former is fun, I've
decided. Only the sixth form and remove is mixed gender at my school, so
it's kinda disconcerting that suddenly there are a bunch of GURLS who I've
never even seen appearing in all my classes, but still. I have Tolstoy's
great grand-daughter in my English class, and a girl possibly called Sarah
who is the nicer-looking identical twin sister (Fishyclap stylee) of The One
Everyone Fancies From Brookside. Who is also in our
SuperDuperExtraSmartEightGCSEA*sOrMoreScholarshipHouse and seems to have an
IQ of about 400. She likes abstract jazz. She will be single for the next
two years, I am sure. All this AND no science lessons. Ever.  I am a happy
goldfish today.

The "Just William" post was staggeringly hilarious. Even though you are
wrong, and TTML is grate.

I flee now
---
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 +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper        +-+
 +-+   "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000   +-+
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 ++++++                                                          ++++++
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 ++++++                                                          ++++++
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+


From ant at xxx.uk  Wed Aug 30 21:16:32 2000
From: ant at xxx.uk (Ant Fineran)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 21:16:32 +0100
Subject: Sinister: walter the softy's textile ranch
Message-ID: <39AD6BA0.76E2DC8D@fineran.demon.co.uk>

Jumbo jet vignettes to y'all for being so great! My spidey senses just
tingled and assured me that yesterday evening, in a quiet, bluish-green
part of the city, the following event occurred: puffy-haired man, possibly
trained as.. a mercenary, threw a bomb right out the cargo hold of a lost
woodland ambulance. Then, an older man reluctantly cried, "Brrravo!" in a
Siberian accent.. it gets blurry from then on, somebody maybe warbling, "He
ain't heavy, he's just confused." Time for another spidery check-up, I
think, because ignorance and spiders should of course be given a second
chance in Pop, as a wise person once said. Or was that a Yiddish saying?

Lawrence from Felt was interviewed in Select a while ago, and his evocative
cheekbones were bound to touch upon the subject of his most famous
follower, sooner or later at least.. if anyone's interested:

You must be aware of Stuart Murdoch wearing a Felt T-shirt on stage.
  "Yeah, I thought it was great, because people always come up to me and
tell me how much they like Felt, and people like Death In Vegas drop our
name in print, but it was so nice for someone to really stick their neck
out - particularly as Belle & Sebastian are a really good band. I think
Stuart Murdoch is a better song writer than I've ever been."

Have you ever met him?
  "Yeah, it was funny, because I was just sitting in the ICA bar one
afternoon and this guy I know came in. He told me how the Tindersticks were
playing the ICA the next night and how the support band were huge fans of
Felt. So I went to the show and it was really odd because Stuart Murdoch
was changing some of the lyrics to Felt lyrics. I met him afterwards in the
bar and he was saying, 'I don't know if you noticed, but I was fitting in
Felt lyrics.' I'd certainly noticed."

Personally, I love that last thing he says and like to endow it with a kind
of reflective tone.

Thanks to Dave for posting the Lord Anthony MP3, it's a bit crackly, yet to
this first-time listener it was audible enough to inspire some dugong-like
internet research, whereupon I found this site, and a song called "Swarm
Me":

http://www.ireggae.com/anthonyb/swarmme1.htm

Here is an excerpt (taken for my purposes and thus wholly
unrepresentative!) to highlight some striking similarities in theme to the
B&S song. This may be a cheap gibe, but.. that's nearly as good as
expensive pathos:

Lord, Lord, Lord, Anthony B. is very polite,
But dem say dis boy too bright.
Remember we don't live in a communist country. Yuggo yo.

And on that note, we degenerate into sweet dreams,
Ant X
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From dunbare at xxx.net  Wed Aug 30 22:39:36 2000
From: dunbare at xxx.net (Ewan Dunbar)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:39:36 EDT
Subject: Sinister: saying words that have oh-so-clearly been said, so long ago...
Message-ID: <200008302139.RAA08517@titan.golden.net>


well, there, I've gone and done it. I thought it would be forever before I
finally decided
to use/abuse my newfound voice on sinister; I dunno what inspired me to do
it, but it looks
like I've done it.

which brings me to the problem of just what I should fill this message
with. likely more of
the inanity that fills my mind twenty-four hours a day. first I may as well
inform the list of
my place of residence, which is in the faraway great wilderness of canada,
in stratford ontario.
I am seventeen, but the only time I ever read seventeen magazine is when I
want to do the
quizzes. I like quizzes of any kind, even if they provide me with no kind
of useful information
about myself whatsoever and are silly and possibly evil. I think I usually
end up with something
like "in-check chick", but that's only because I lie about my insecurity.
if I didn't I would
probably be a "screwed-up senorita" or something like that. provided I
continued to lie
about my gender as well. anyhoo, this is a tangent.

I have been reading this discussion about politics and hmming and hawing,
but even though
I probably shouldn't say anything I will say this (and I *know* this has
been said before):
I, like a lot of people, look at the election and see a tribute to a poor
system; but I think it
would be a *lot* better if people didn't worry about who they thought was
going to win, and
simply voted for the candidate they really wanted. I mean, after all, if
you *knew* who was
going to win, then it wouldn't be a democracy, and miracles do happen.
perhaps I'm being
naive, but I think doing otherwise is just contributing to the poorness of
the system. anyway,
that's my rant.

someone asked about why the band were associated with tweeness; it has
always seemed
to me that it has little to do with their sound or struan's voice (although
these may contribute
to it) but just about everything to do with the lyrics. the nature and
'location' of the tweeness
isn't always simple, either. take We Rule The School for example. for me,
at first glance, I
thought I was going to be ill. oh, this is ridiculously over-the-top twee,
I thought. but then
I realized that the surface tweeness wasn't the prime tweeness, the surface
tweeness
complemented the music in a complex relation which made for a twee whole
song. oh my,
that was an odd tangent to go off on. 

anyway, I have little more to say, and this seems like and odd place to end
this not very
interesting and extreeeemely wordy message, but there it is, I'm ending it
right


about




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From boucherphilip at xxx.com  Wed Aug 30 23:45:53 2000
From: boucherphilip at xxx.com (The Vicar)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 22:45:53 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #257
Message-ID: <F244fPK80KE6Hwf4U3w00003dd7@hotmail.com>

Hi

I neber mail here, and im really sorry to use the list like this, especially 
as I people dont know me but... Is there a Lisa out there who was at Leeds 
2000, with Jenni, you had a stripey jumper...  how are you? mail me back 
privatly if you get this.  I got an e-mail from jennY who had the birthday 
on the same day as jenny and that, and she is ok.

philip
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 +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper        +-+
 +-+   "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000   +-+
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From dougalshaw at xxx.com  Thu Aug 31 01:12:32 2000
From: dougalshaw at xxx.com (dougal shaw)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 01:12:32 BST
Subject: Sinister: isobel problem
Message-ID: <LAW2-F259eYus87tzrT00003084@hotmail.com>

*if my family tree went back to the dinosaurs I still wouldn't appreciate 
Isobel Campbell*

That used to be my opinion of Isobell Campbell. But recently I've been 
pondering my attitude to her presence in the B and S outfit and I have 
realised that my attitude towards her has changed. At first, I thought when 
she made her appearance on TBWTAS that she was a sort of intrusion. It was 
fine when she appeared in 'guest capacity' in the duet parts with Stuart 
(like RollerCoster ride) where her counterpoint harmonies added a haunting 
quality to the songs - as long as she remained merely a guest on these 
tracks. I just skipped her other songs because they were good in any other 
context, but paled next to the sublimity of B and S material. But now I have 
a problem. I have to confess that Waiting for the Moon to Rise is one of my 
very favourite songs on the new album. It's made me realise that Isobel's 
songs can be equally magical. So what was my problem before? I think it 
might be (and this sounds weird to me as well) that one of the attractions 
of B and S's older material (bearing in mind that I am a guy) is that it is 
a man singing with tenderness, about tender things. It wouldn't be the same 
if a girl was singing those lyrics. I don't know why that would make a 
difference, but since the idea occurred to me, it probably reverberates some 
inner truth.

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From csomeone at xxx.com  Thu Aug 31 01:16:20 2000
From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 00:16:20 GMT
Subject: Sinister: i cannot believe i am still here
Message-ID: <F242RzZC3CAaY6OqdBP00003fd9@hotmail.com>

hi everyone:
i was out stalking elephants so i had quietly left the ranks but i am now 
back. and in a puddle. but what a lovely puddle it is! and i in my yellow 
slicka!

okay, today is the beginning of what will be periodic emails on the Lovely 
Thing that Happened Today. Sort of Pollyanna-esque, or maybe even, hopefully 
L.M. Montgomery-like, but shall we see?

the Lovely Thing That Happened Today

Someone brought biscottis today, and they were lovely and just right. I 
dipped them in my tea (4 T sugar, 4 T of half and half) and everything was 
right with the world, for the moment.

Oh, but everything is right with the world, all the time, we just don't know 
it, isn't that right? right?

Cynthia


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From martyg10 at xxx.com  Thu Aug 31 03:43:15 2000
From: martyg10 at xxx.com (Marty GGGGG)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 03:43:15 BST
Subject: Sinister: What would it take to wipe that smile off of your face?
Message-ID: <F216tPrPrvCWO6hm8Ua000028f8@hotmail.com>

Big Al chirruped....
'And in The Beginning there was 'Rattlesnakes'. Now let's not beat about the 
proverbial here, this was, still is and ever will be one of the single most 
perfect incarnations of The Pop Record ever to have graced that strange, 
contradictory decade known as the 1980s.And in
The Beginning there was 'Rattlesnakes'.
...and I have to agree with the sentiments. 'Rattlesnakes' was a classic pop 
record, with intelligent, thought provoking, literate and slightly 
smart-arsey lyrics. Sound familiar? The music was steeped in guitar oriented 
Americana, country, bluesy, with strains of harmonica and accordion thrown 
in for good measure. This was a consistent evocation of America as a 
backdrop for Lloyd's dramas of Uni life and (imagined?) international 
characters. For me, the overall vibe is as redolent of Glasgow as B&S music, 
possibly something to do with Glasgow (and the Uni) being a melting pot / 
crossroads for disparate peoples. Cole himself is English and hooked up with 
Lawrence Donegan etc whilst studying at Glasgow QED classic, timeless pop 
music.
I saw the video for 'Rattlesnakes' whilst waiting to watch 'Ghostbusters' 
back in (fuck!) 1984 at the Odeon in Renfield Street and it was great, a 
hand held shot out of a car window just panning along an American highway, 
the perfect visual complement to virtually any of the songs off of the 
album. The same trailer featured the vid to Bronski Beat's version of 'It 
Ain't Necessarily So", yet another great pop song.

"Not the whole world, mate."
Eh?

And as for the cream buns 12m signing spree, I can only say 'knee jerk 
reaction'. Teamwork and leadership won the game for the hoops, not 'world 
class players' ** yawn **. These same qualities took a previous Celtic team 
to dizzying heights, and you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about....

Finally, Sinsterines, for a laff, check out the following site. If you want 
an idea of the type of people who make life hell for the twee kids in 
Glasgow, make for the following site and check out the sound files.......
www.mucker.co.uk
Priceless!
Bona fide old school ecto hugs to everyone.
Marty.

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From martyg10 at xxx.com  Thu Aug 31 03:43:10 2000
From: martyg10 at xxx.com (Marty GGGGG)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 03:43:10 BST
Subject: Sinister: What would it take to wipe that smile off of your face?
Message-ID: <F305Jse1fTvOSQeSOzN00002841@hotmail.com>

Big Al chirruped....
'And in The Beginning there was 'Rattlesnakes'. Now let's not beat about the 
proverbial here, this was, still is and ever will be one of the single most 
perfect incarnations of The Pop Record ever to have graced that strange, 
contradictory decade known as the 1980s.And in
The Beginning there was 'Rattlesnakes'.
...and I have to agree with the sentiments. 'Rattlesnakes' was a classic pop 
record, with intelligent, thought provoking, literate and slightly 
smart-arsey lyrics. Sound familiar? The music was steeped in guitar oriented 
Americana, country, bluesy, with strains of harmonica and accordion thrown 
in for good measure. This was a consistent evocation of America as a 
backdrop for Lloyd's dramas of Uni life and (imagined?) international 
characters. For me, the overall vibe is as redolent of Glasgow as B&S music, 
possibly something to do with Glasgow (and the Uni) being a melting pot / 
crossroads for disparate peoples. Cole himself is English and hooked up with 
Lawrence Donegan etc whilst studying at Glasgow QED classic, timeless pop 
music.
I saw the video for 'Rattlesnakes' whilst waiting to watch 'Ghostbusters' 
back in (fuck!) 1984 at the Odeon in Renfield Street and it was great, a 
hand held shot out of a car window just panning along an American highway, 
the perfect visual complement to virtually any of the songs off of the 
album. The same trailer featured the vid to Bronski Beat's version of 'It 
Ain't Necessarily So", yet another great pop song.

"Not the whole world, mate."
Eh?

And as for the cream buns 12m signing spree, I can only say 'knee jerk 
reaction'. Teamwork and leadership won the game for the hoops, not 'world 
class players' ** yawn **. These same qualities took a previous Celtic team 
to dizzying heights, and you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about....

Finally, Sinsterines, for a laff, check out the following site. If you want 
an idea of the type of people who make life hell for the twee kids in 
Glasgow, make for the following site and check out the sound files.......
www.mucker.co.uk
Priceless!
Bona fide old school ecto hugs to everyone.
Marty.

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From Heffalumping at xxx.com  Thu Aug 31 03:53:47 2000
From: Heffalumping at xxx.com (Heffalumping at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 22:53:47 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Re: Isobel problem
Message-ID: <bf.687489c.26df22bb@aol.com>

Dougal wrote: 
"But now I have 
a problem. I have to confess that Waiting for the Moon to Rise is one of my 
very favourite songs on the new album. It's made me realise that Isobel's 
songs can be equally magical. "

     I may be mistaken, but I believe "Waiting for the Moon to Rise" is a 
song written and performed by Sarah Martin.  I know she sings it, and plays 
guitar, and I am fairly certain she wrote it as well.  It happens to be one 
of my favourites, also.
     Hmm, this is my second post ever and here I am being all "toldja 
so-ish".  Sorry.  Just trying to help.  'Sides I love the Gentle Waves as 
well.  :)

Susan
ps. aren't you proud, i didn't mention nader once?!  er.....
     
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From 50158120 at xxx.hk  Thu Aug 31 05:34:43 2000
From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:34:43 +0800
Subject: Sinister: The Masses Againest the Belle
Message-ID: <967696483.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk>

my friends, my co-workers, my family and my "General":

I am sick after a triple expresso. My company ve a expresso machine.
fvi, i am not working at a cafe. Finally, i bought "Louder than the 
Bomb". Thx all the reply of my question! I think it is the right 
choice!!!

What's wrong with Isobell? (I am listening WIRE btw). Do u Like
The Gentle Wave? I have no special comment of Belle's voice. But
pls don't forget she's not only sing. apart from playing music,
she also star on my "support the Clydeside Hunt Saboteurs" orange 
tee.  

I think the Tweeness is in the lyrics. Like the Punk-ness and 
interesting thing ares in the "Manic Street Preacher"'s lyrics.
I think they re stupid, even the Generation Terrorist era or
the greatest "Holy Bible" pieces. They are just quoting the cult.
maybe they are just like me, bullshiting bout Foucalut(maybe i dunno
how do i spell it also) and his "foolmen's boat" at my interviews
of University's Media course. But they are funny. Richey is interesting. 
Playing "Suicide is Painless" is cool. I thought that
it is their song. But it is the theme of "M*A*S*H* and it is written
by the director's son who are not famous as a composer.



Sweet and Tender Hooligan

Toby C 
Island East,
Hong Kong


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From guile.tln at xxx.br  Thu Aug 31 05:59:00 2000
From: guile.tln at xxx.br (Guilherme Barrella)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 01:59:00 -0300
Subject: Sinister: blue afternoon
Message-ID: <39ADE614.D10421FC@terra.com.br>

hi sinister,

i don't know if you all remember but i have a band called blue
afternoon. anyway, i just uploaded a new song to my mp3.com page called
'i want you'. yes, it's an elvis costello cover. the file is kind of big
(because the song also is) but i think it's worth it.

http://www.mp3.com/blueafternoon

i think that's all folks. ah, i forgot the basic stuff. fell free to
send comments and spread the word. and if you need more details, think
of tindersticks, leonard cohen, lou reed, smog, low and there you go.

oh, on a side note: i just made some amazon.uk shopping and bought to
myself 'ink polaroids' and 'little ink movies' by stuart david. really
cool stuff. and they're oh so tiny. i feel like a kid with new toys.

gui
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this is my empire, welcome
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for sad songs, go to Blue Afternoon
http://www.mp3.com/blueafternoon
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e-zine em português, 4 hearts in a can
http://www.4hearts.cjb.net
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for indie pop, go to Winnie Cooper
http://www.winniecooper.cjb.net
http://www.mp3.com/winniecooper
http://winniecooper.zzn.com
http://www.winniegroupie.cjb.net
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for brazilian indie, go to Slag Records
http://slag.sekure.org
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for compilations, go to 1,2,3 Indiezinhos Records
http://www.indiezinhos.cjb.net
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From dougalshaw at xxx.com  Thu Aug 31 12:55:03 2000
From: dougalshaw at xxx.com (dougal shaw)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:55:03 BST
Subject: Sinister: Isobel and Sarah
Message-ID: <LAW2-F172sQwY6YHkid0000322b@hotmail.com>

That IS a revelation to me, that Sarah sings on Waiting for the Moon to Rise 
and not Isobel (confusion can result from sparse sleeve notes). Hmmn. Two 
things arise from this. Firstly, I had been picturing (and almost falling in 
love with) the wrong girl when listening to that song. Sarah has shot up in 
my estimation, having previously just been a background figure. Secondly, I 
am glad, as I can go back to disliking Isobel Campbell intensely, safe in 
the knowledge that my disposition towards her is based on musical grounds in 
the first instance. But I suppose cussing her is old hat.
I made another mix-up regarding Isobel, which involved her lyrics. At first 
I thought she was singing 'I would rather be fat AND be confused' rather 
than 'I would rather be fat than be confused'. I prefer the lyric I 
misheard. If she would rather be fat and confused (which she may well be in 
real life, though she strikes me as a rather sussed person) this suggests an 
arch, more B and S take on the world. The latter, actual lyric seems more 
like a straight-forward mantra against eating disorders. I suppose that's 
life affirming though.

dougal

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From David1822 at xxx.com  Thu Aug 31 15:33:19 2000
From: David1822 at xxx.com (David Strange Strange)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 07:33:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: The stoned and the sinister
Message-ID: <31593040.967732399978.JavaMail.imail@puffer>


Hope everybody's well and dandy, i'm fine & enjoying the last of the summers
sunshine.

Just thought i'd write a reply to some prevoius posts, hopefully they won't
bore you too
much;

Jenowl's hardkids; i think Jen rocks for standing up to the hard kids,
GRRRRRR Go Jen,
Go jen. Maybe a career in womens restling beckons she could wera her fairy
wings as a
costume, but they may get broken which would cause national outcry., well in
Sinister
land anyway.

Enjoying the politics debate raging, i'm not very intelligent when it comes
to matters
political but this Nadir guy sounds quite cool for a politician. I'm with
Luara llew for the
marajuina party, it'd be qyuite entertaining watching stoned people
wondering the streets,
we could have sweepstakes at how many times they say man and dude in the
same
sentance imagine the fun we could have, but on a downside the whole snak
industry
would have to boost production 10 fold.

I'm upset i missed Vel's record breaking picnic it sounds super, and i
missed casorotto
vinnie jones style tackling most upsetting.

Bumped into the lovely Miss Scarlet in a swanky record store in good ol'
London town a
few weeks back, what a girl. I hope at Reading she avoided the Slipknott
fans, actually
she's got way too much style for slipknott and whilst they were doing
disguisting things
on stage, the Scarlet one was proberly drinking Gin and tonic and sunnung
herself.

I would tell you about my trip o jersey but frankly it would bore you too
tears, anyone
interseted in any jersey information can mail me off-site and i'll be happy
to oblige.

Smell you later, Dave (Dafyd)

'You can take the boy out of Wales, but you can't take Wales out of the boy'
Amen
brother.





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From shewitt at xxx.uk  Thu Aug 31 16:31:25 2000
From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:31:25 +0100
Subject: Sinister: And this time there's no getting away from me...
Message-ID: <39AE7A4D.97B50DAA@ruskin.ac.uk>

Yes, three weeks later I return safely ensconced in my new job, new
house etc, having finally picked up the courage to read e-mails during
working hours and caught up with last weeks backlog due to not being
near a pooter.

where to start?

the picnic sounded like fun, even with all the rain.  I was at READING
where it also rained and where it SMELLED VERY BADLY, like a gig in a
bin lorry, which neither glasto nor camber sands does.  Apart from that
the bands were good especially the delgadoes, who went up dramatically
in my estimation, beck, cos he's funny, brassy, cos they funky (and cos
"muff" spencer was dressed as wonder woman), prml scrm, cos i hadn't
seen them before and cos mani *is* king of the bassists, pulp, cos i
heart jarvis, and of course, the wonderful ms lauren laverne, as much as
i enjoy watching her on telly on planet pop and stuff, it's not quite
the same as seeing her wielding her "axe" live on stage, although it is
worth pointing out that pete, nee johnny x, has been eating all the pies
and growing silly facial hair.  I also said happy sinibirfday to
glampam(my), who was the only sinisterine i saw on
sunday...unfortunately I was not wearing red underwear as i do not own
any, and neither does mrs carsmile

glad to see various ox-types sticking their collective heads above the
parapets.  I now find out that i live within 50 yards of at least two of
them, and that mrs carsmile is working with a third, what with it being
a small world after all.  Whatever happened to Peter Miller moving
here?  We could start a commune or something, prolly.

...mixing pop and politics, he asked me what the use is?
I offered him embarrassment and the usual excuses...

Still waiting for the GRATE leap forward, meself, Billy Bragg to be the
new queen mother, that's what i say.

So I may well see some lun-ding types on Saturday and Ox types on
Sunday.  It's going to be a sini-tastic weekend, innit

xoxo

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From m at xxx.org  Thu Aug 31 16:46:21 2000
From: m at xxx.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Marcus_R=F6nnemark?=)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 17:46:21 +0200
Subject: Sinister: I have been given a voice...
In-Reply-To: <39AE7A4D.97B50DAA@ruskin.ac.uk>
References: <39AE7A4D.97B50DAA@ruskin.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <967736781.39ae7dcd725ee@medlem.comnix.com>

...So I might as well introduce myself.
I'm Marcus, 23 years old from Sweden.
Belle & Sebastian? Yes please! Otherwise I wouldn't be here, would I?
Oh, not much more to add right now I think.
Just ask, ok.

Any more swedes on this list?

/Marcus


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From pinefox at xxx.com  Thu Aug 31 18:41:22 2000
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 17:41:22 GMT
Subject: Sinister: And I feel like I'm dying from mining for Cole
Message-ID: <LAW-F138TDLMYOxZ4MW00003ea2@hotmail.com>



I wonder why Professor Cook thinks that his post will

>>>probably bore most of you stiffless

?

I thought it fascinating, as I usually do re. what he has to say, except 
when he's very drunk, when I only find it interesting, cos I can't seem to 
open my ears. Or swallow properly.

He said:

>>>The delectable Mr PF had to say (why, heaven above only knows):

It's nice to be delectable, but I wish to point out that my name is not 'Mr 
PF'. It's 'PF', or possibly 'pinefox'. Orange-Juicy Lucy A once called me 
'the pinefox', a definite article which I really enjoyed. But there has 
never been a 'Mr' involved. 'Mr' is not, as it happens, my title.

Anyway, Ally96 went on:

>>>Easy Pieces - Lloyd Cole and The Commotions, 1985
Raintown - Deacon Blue, 1987
Lloyd Cole (X) - Lloyd Cole, 1990

>>It seems fitting to start, as is usually best, at the beginning. And in 
>>The Beginning there was 'Rattlesnakes'. Now let's not beat about the 
>>proverbial here, this was, still is and ever will be one of the single 
>>most perfect incarnations of The Pop Record ever to have graced that 
>>strange, contradictory decade known as the 1980s. Yes, standing with 'You 
>>can't hide your love..', 'Murmur', 'Queen is Dead', and all the ones I 
>>can't remember or haven't heard yet. Yes! Soaring and swooping and 
>>whispering in the shadows and hollering from the rooftops "why can't it be 
>>like this all the time?!".

I'm with you so far, though inevitably unconvinced by the 'You Can't Hide 
Your Love', with or without capitals (of Scotland). Of *course* I'm 
unconvinced: I've never heard the thing.

>>>And 'Easy Pieces' is yer lot, so to speak.
Not a lot, but you might like it. I do, kind of. Yes, it's dull in
parts, yes, it doesn't quite have the same youthful charm as it's
predescessor, but, well,

>>it is what it is.

That clause is below your usual standard, Cook. I mean, can you tell me 
about anything that is not what it is? Possibly Steady Mike could, via an 
unscrupulous manipulation of evidence from the Quantum Fizzy Drink world, 
but he's not here to protect you now.

>>Reasonable, if not triumphant

On this I agree. What about 'Brand New Friend'? That strikes me as a rather 
disappointing, or unrealized, track. But I know a fanzine editor with a big 
soft spot for 'Why I Love Country Music'. And I like the guitar intro to 
'Grace' and the outro to 'Pretty Gone'. And 'Minor Character'! The return of 
the swooping strings from 'Rattlesnakes'! Fabulously cold lines like 'She 
said she'd throw herself off a bridge', and 'She telephoned to say that 
she'd cut her wrists'! Tossed off with the usual Cole langour - or are they? 
Come to think of it, maybe he gets worked up here. What do you kids think?

The other thing about these early Lloyd Cole strings is that they are the 
model - the model? - for the strings on 'FYHCYWLAP'. I mean 'Woman's Realm' 
and 'Too Much Love' and, well, 'The Model', specifically - among the tracks' 
most, um, delectable features is the Lloydishness of the strings.


Ally96 then moved on to Deacon Blue:

>>It's just...well, the songs are often there, I mean you
can see them, God knows you can almost feel then, and then suddenly
they're lost forever under blankets of rubbish production, crap guitar
parts and Lorraine MacIntosh's incessant wailing. Alright, so it's not
that bad really, I mean there are high points (Dignity of course, The
Very Thing) and the cover's lovely, a cloudy Dundee (one assumes), but
the whole thing just doesn't quite work for me.

The cover is lovely. The songs are, sometimes, there. Production, maybe I 
agree. Guitars, maybe. But are you sure it's right thus to diss McIntosh? I 
think she was an asset. She was a better singer than Ricky Ross, as she 
proved on their cover of 'Are You There With Another Girl?' - which I think 
was released almost exactly 10 years ago (c. September 1990) and got to no 4 
or no 2 - the Bacharach / David ep, I mean, was their biggest UK hit.

I don't agree, either, that 'Dignity' is a high point. I think the high 
points are:

Born In A Storm (brief)

Raintown (urgent verse - shame about the chorus, maybe. But I like the line 
'You're [or is it 'I'm'?] down here, working on some dumb show')

He Looks Like Spencer Tracy Now (OK)

Chocolate Girl (excellent, and tr�s 80s. That sounds a bit like 'Trezeguet', 
doesn't it? As in

"TrezeGUEEEETT!!!!!!!!!")


Ally96 recovered from these objections, which he knew were coming, and 
continued:

>>>Finally, we come to the boy Cole's first solo outing, all black leather 
>>>and gruff sleeve with Bad Cowboy stubble. Inside though, we find some 
>>>soft centres (leopards and spots, eh?). The single 'No Blue Skies' is 
>>>possibly the finest thing here, as Lloyd accuses "Baby you're too well 
>>>read". It seems self-depreciation is the new black. Elsewhere 'Loveless' 
>>>is gorgeous ("why do you say you love me/when you don't?"), and 
>>>'Undressed' is pleading and pretty wonderful. It doesn't quite sustain 
>>>itself over 13 tracks though, in fact the last 3 could have been omitted 
>>>without too much fuss from me, but it's all about compromises, folks, and 
>>>I'll happily take the rough with the smooth. Two adjectives which can be 
>>>applied to Lloyd Cole in almost equal measure. Long may he keep slowing 
>>>down.


I couldn't have put it better myself.

Have you reflected on how LC *did* slow down with this LP? In the sense that 
his first 3 LPs started with medium-to-fast songs, whereas this one starts 
with a (magnificent and indispensable) slow cruiser?

But I disagree with the judgment of the last trio of tracks. If I remember 
rightly they are:

I Hate To See You Baby Doing That Stuff // which is a fun, dumb rocker with 
French words, laughter and screaming Quine axe;

Waterline // which is a very straightforward Dylan rip-off, but excellent, I 
think;

and

Mercy/Killing // which is long, heavy and menacing - a bit like Alasdair 
Cook - and ends startlingly - again a bit like him.

On the other hand (again), it's true that No Blue Skies, Loveless and 
Undressed are all marvellous, in their different ways. At the end of the 
day, I think this is one of the great pop records ever, and even better than 
Rattlesnakes. I seem to have said this before somewhere.


It is the last day of summer, by my reckoning. It is thus nine years to the 
day since I finished reading Ulysses for the first time. I sure hope I 
didn't *entirely* waste them.



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From melvisco at xxx.com  Thu Aug 31 18:30:48 2000
From: melvisco at xxx.com (molly dahl)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:30:48 -0400
Subject: Sinister: I'll be over here.
Message-ID: <1A223264F9E74D11789400807C90AA21@melvisco.francemail.com>

Hello All You Lovely Folk.

Yikes.

I'm leaving the continent of North America for an entire year.  I leave Monday.  What a bizarre concept.  I've basicallly lived my entire life in the suburbs of Buffalo, New York. Oh yes, mind you, it is time to bust out of here.  Buffalo is a nice area, but the term "armpit of North America" always springs to mind.  But the actual fact of the 'busting' hasn't really hit me, until right now.  I was putting some photos into a photo album my friend's mother bought for me, and I just had this strange feeling overwhelm me.  Hmmm.   Enough with my emotional quandaries.  

I'm going to Spain!  Valencia, that is.  Is there anyone on this fine little list in the Valencia region?  Better question:  does anyone have any advice/kind words/pointers/death threats (no, preferably not those) they'd like to send my way?  I'd be more than thankful.   In fact, I would be ecstatic.

After I study in Spain for a semester, I will be homeless for a month and a half. Woo!  You see, I'll have no place of residence between December 15th and February 1st, until I take up residence in Besancon, France for another semester.  Yeehaw.

I'm really quite excited.  

And now for something completely different.

Oh, I do have one 'bummer' that needs to be noted.  Well, it has been made known to me that Looper shall be playing the CMJ festival this year (I do hope I'm not spreading a nasty little rumor.  I heard it from a good source).  Ugh.  I would be going with the radio station at my university, but alas, I'll be 6 time zones away.  Hrmph.  Nonetheless, I do hope all that attend have a lovely time.

I am going to go see Weezer tomorrow.  I had no clue that I would be this excited.  You see, I do not claim to be the biggest Weeeeezer fan.  I enjoy them. Yes, that's true.  But the prospect of seeing them live has made me as giddy as a 12 year old girl waving her training bra about it in the air.  And I may just end up doing that...

Alas, I must be off to try to fit everything I need into 2 suitcases and a gigantic backpack that could hold a midget.

Party On.
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From sgazzetti at xxx.com  Thu Aug 31 18:26:32 2000
From: sgazzetti at xxx.com (JD Stephens)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 10:26:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: picnic question
Message-ID: <20000831172632.7460.qmail@web3002.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello all--
just a quick question--is there a picnic on for NYC in September? I
thought I had heard rumblings about it mid-August, but nothing since. If
anyone can either confirm or deny this rumor, please email me about it.
Thanks. I appreciate any help on this. The first person to come up with
useful info will win my undying gratitude and a beaker of beverage of your
choosing.

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From CaMo81 at xxx.com  Thu Aug 31 20:23:51 2000
From: CaMo81 at xxx.com (CaMo81 at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:23:51 EDT
Subject: Sinister: Squee and Twee
Message-ID: <d3.9598d33.26e00ac7@aol.com>

Ha! I never heard of Squee until 2 days ago when my friend showed me one of 
his Squee graphic novels and I was instantaneously hooked.  Wobbly headed bob 
is practically the story of my life.

>someone asked about why the band were associated with tweeness; it has
>always seemed
>to me that it has little to do with their sound or struan's voice (although
>these may contribute
>to it) but just about everything to do with the lyrics. the nature and
'>location' of the tweeness
>isn't always simple, either. take We Rule The School for example. for me,
>at first glance, I
>thought I was going to be ill. oh, this is ridiculously over-the-top twee,
>I thought. but then
>I realized that the surface tweeness wasn't the prime tweeness, the surface
>tweeness
>complemented the music in a complex relation which made for a twee whole
>song. oh my,
>that was an odd tangent to go off on. <

Yes, that was me.  I had said in my last post that my friend asked why B&S 
were associated with tweeness and I gave him a weak answer to fill in the 
eerie silence that followed.  Thanks for responding, at least I know that 
people do read my posts. Heh. I never even heard the word twee until I 
started reading the list so I guess I'm not completely familiar with all its 
uses and contexts.  If anyone could straighten me out it would be nice.

That mucker site was pretty amusing, but for some reason, when i downloaded a 
sound, it just played back nothing. <shrug> We have the equivalent of those 
here in New York, we like to call them "hard-knockers" because they pretend 
they live in the ghetto and wear shirts that say "queens school of hard 
knocks" even though they grew up on Long Island and real queens kids would 
kick the crap out of them if they saw them on the street. I think I said this 
in my last post so I'll shut up now.
Bye for now.

                                                        Derek

I was so excited yesterday when my mum presented me with a gigantic tea mug 
she got when she was in Dallas, It's quickly become my most prized 
possession. 
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 +-+  "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students"  +-+
 +-+  "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list"  +-+
 +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper        +-+
 +-+   "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000   +-+
 +-+       "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named       +-+
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 ++++++                                                          ++++++
 ++++++  August 27th Sinister Third Birthday Red Underwear Day   ++++++
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From jasonandreas at xxx.net  Thu Aug 31 21:35:14 2000
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:35:14 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Did you hear someone talking about me at Leeds?
Message-ID: <002101c0138b$1214aa60$a28f183e@default>

My friend Lisa sent me this mail...

>... i was talking to julie about radiohead and she was asking who was
going.... i mentioned your >name and some bloke turned round, saying "you
know jason andreas?!"... apparantly he reads the >stuff you post on
sinister...

So, who are you? Just out of interest...

--Jason Andreas
Guardian of the Obvious

It is said, that when He saw a weed trying to
grow between two rocks, that he moved one
of the rocks. Later, when He saw that the weed
was flourishing, he placed the rock back on top.
He explained to us; 'That was its fate.'

ICQ: 45821217  AIM: RadioJase

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 +-+  "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students"  +-+
 +-+  "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list"  +-+
 +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper        +-+
 +-+   "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000   +-+
 +-+       "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named       +-+
 +-+           Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000           +-+
 ++++++                                                          ++++++
 ++++++  August 27th Sinister Third Birthday Red Underwear Day   ++++++
 ++++++                                                          ++++++
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From hhumble at xxx.edu  Thu Aug 31 23:41:43 2000
From: hhumble at xxx.edu (Heather Humble)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:41:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sinister: PDX "event"
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.10.10008311042570.29892-100000@amon.reed.edu>


Hey all-

This is just to let all of my fellow Portlanders know that this Saturday
(Sept 2), a couple of us sinisterees have planned to go out for drinkie
drinkies.  If you're interested in coming along, email me
(hhumble at reed.edu), though I don't know that I'll read my email past 5pm
on Friday.

I have no relevant content,
heather



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 +-+  "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students"  +-+
 +-+  "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list"  +-+
 +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper        +-+
 +-+   "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000   +-+
 +-+       "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named       +-+
 +-+           Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000           +-+
 ++++++                                                          ++++++
 ++++++  August 27th Sinister Third Birthday Red Underwear Day   ++++++
 ++++++                                                          ++++++
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From dunbare at xxx.net  Thu Aug 31 23:54:06 2000
From: dunbare at xxx.net (Ewan Dunbar)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 18:54:06 EDT
Subject: Sinister: On the subject of Isobel
Message-ID: <200008312254.SAA12252@titan.golden.net>


As this is only my second post ever ever to sinister, I had better make
it useful and pleasing. It plans on being informative, which is boring,
so I will attempt to insert some interesting content. But first, the
informative part:
I read in (IIRC) the transcript of an online chat with the band that
Isobel sang one of Stuart's songs. Since Isobel wrote Beyond The
Sunrise, I presume this means that Stuart wrote Family Tree.
The not-so-informative part:
There is a record store in town which seems to be prime for a good dose
of Belle and Sebastian. They are small and have an atmosphere that
screams "we love indie music". However, I have seen *one* B&S album in
there to date. A friend says he bought his copy of Fishy Clap there, so
that makes two. The store also seems to be devoid of just about any
other related music. Which is to say that on the outside they appear to
be a quaintish little indie store, but on the inside all they sell is
what's popular. Sigh. I suppose I ought to let them know there's a
market for such things here, but I really don't like the idea of the
onus being on me. Anyway, I don't know where I was going with this, I
guess I was just filling up space to make this seem less like a sort of
know-it-allish informational post and more like some B&S-related
opinions/news. Perhaps it didn't work. Ah well.
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 +-+  "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students"  +-+
 +-+  "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list"  +-+
 +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper        +-+
 +-+   "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000   +-+
 +-+       "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named       +-+
 +-+           Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000           +-+
 ++++++                                                          ++++++
 ++++++  August 27th Sinister Third Birthday Red Underwear Day   ++++++
 ++++++                                                          ++++++
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+


From Rickbozard at xxx.com  Thu Aug 31 23:01:58 2000
From: Rickbozard at xxx.com (Rickbozard at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 18:01:58 EDT
Subject: Sinister: peter and gordon
Message-ID: <e0.94ef6da.26e02fd7@aol.com>

is anyone here familliar with peter and gordon. They were a 60's pop/folk duo who could be seen as an immediate influence on belle and sebastian. The members were friends with the Beatles and lennon and mcartney actually wrote a fair number of songs for them.
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 +-+  "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students"  +-+
 +-+  "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list"  +-+
 +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper        +-+
 +-+   "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000   +-+
 +-+       "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named       +-+
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 ++++++                                                          ++++++
 ++++++  August 27th Sinister Third Birthday Red Underwear Day   ++++++
 ++++++                                                          ++++++
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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com  Thu Aug 31 21:36:39 2000
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:36:39 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Baby you're too, well, RED
Message-ID: <000001c0138b$35de0ae0$6ec401d5@default>

Hi Again,

Sorry for coming in your box again so soon, but I forgot something about the
picnic the other day.


The "August 27th Sinister Third Birthday Red Underwear Day" bit in the
footer should maybe have "& Fingernails" inserted. (into it?)

Because.
Whilst Kalli & Carey sported unseen red pants Lucy, Sally, and half of
Trousers (but a hand, not a leg) availed themselves of Lixi's cherry red
nail varnish during the proceedings. Mr Trousers  from a parallel universe,
what will your next move be? Diamante hairslide, red nails, ???  I think a
skirt for the next picnic. Or maybe someone will pluck up their courage to
give you a present & decide for you.


Ally & Pinefox the shipwright's discourse is fascinating but I haven't a
clue what they're talking about. My ears slept through the 80's.


Honey, do you think that displaying Missprint's SS logo all over your site
is going to ease the pressure of the "frighteningly named Sinister List
organisation" & "Primrose Mafia" accusations?


Peter, is it that a chicken run & 70's Who are both pretty shitty? 70's Pho,
tee hee.


I think that's enough,


Love,

David Moore
Chelmsford, UK

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 +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper        +-+
 +-+   "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000   +-+
 +-+       "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named       +-+
 +-+           Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000           +-+
 ++++++                                                          ++++++
 ++++++  August 27th Sinister Third Birthday Red Underwear Day   ++++++
 ++++++                                                          ++++++
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