From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Tue Feb 1 00:28:21 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:28:21 -0500 Subject: Sinister: At Last - The Cheese Course! Message-ID: <200001311928_MC2-9726-2033@compuserve.com> Hi Everybody, Our Oon definitely has to give Mr Chris a monster hug & congratulations, coz he played a blinder at The PoCaff on Friday night. Picking like Robin Williamson (when he was good) & singing like, I dunno, some bloke who can sing really well. 9 original gems plus a couple of covers, including Pancho & Lefty, as also recorded by Emmylou Harris & er, Evan Dando (sorry). Set list to appear on the web soon. Or maybe very much later :) If you weren't there, its a shame, but you could compensate yourself by buying his latest release from http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~calnd/sleeka/sleeka.htm for a ridiculously give-away price. The Foxgloves were also tops - their first electric set provoking an entirely spontaneous & unrehearsed "Judas!" "I don't believe you, you're a liar!" exchange between Trousers & Hopkins. In the restaurant earlier the waiter could smell that we weren't going to give a big tip, & Honey said that he was able to sniff out who the senders of bum pictures to the bodyparts page were. Bodily Fluids page soon come. Mick Cooke supplied the Belle and Sebastian content. What a nice man. And what's wrong with trumpet-playing bands,anyway? Thanks to all who had a hand in organising a fine evening - I may go again. If you'll let me in, that is :) List abuse spot: does any ISB or 70's Who fan have a copy of Mike Heron's Smiling Men With Bad Reputations? Coz I'd like to hear it again & can't find a copy. Bye, Your Wicked Uncle Ernie Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jnikolaeff at xxx.au Tue Feb 1 01:35:06 2000 From: jnikolaeff at xxx.au (Radiation Girl) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:05:06 +1030 Subject: Sinister: Greetings from 38C Message-ID: <000d01bf6c54$91826dc0$6d6bd88f@edu33040.systems.sa.gov.au> Mushi mushi, everyone - I have finally graduated from the nursery. And now I'm here there were so many things I wanted to say, but do you think I remember them now? Of course not, that would be an example of a good memory - that which I do not have and probably never will due to my high consumption of Coopers Ale. I'm writing from Adelaide Australia where it is extremely hot (as you know now), and I do have sympathy for you all suffering in snow. Though I am kind of jealous - I have never seen snow before. Ever. Yes, really. But I have eased my feet in the sea many a time. Anyway, the snow thing has got to me recently, and so has the travelling bug, so I decided where better to see it than Britain, and my fathers homeland (Russia) I'm heading over at the end of this year, and cannot wait to go to all these groovy B&S clubs you guys talk about all the time! I'm keeping a list, believe me... and maybe I can hunt b&s down (subtely, of course) and try to make them do a tour of oz. Quite frankly, I was quite shocked to hear that they have toured the US and not here. CLUBS Speaking of clubs, if you ever come to Adelaide you'll be quite pleased with Velvet, and POP! - especially the former as Chris, Jackie and Lara the dj's I make play b&s til the cows come home (do b&s ever mention animals in their songs? my mind is blank) - well, I would but they all get sick of me. I hate to say it, but I may have single handedly turned everyone in Adelaide against them due to my unhealthy obsession. This is quite evil - please forgive me, I didn't mean to do it..... WORK While I write I am at work, and I know I shouldn't have sinister sent to my work address but otherwise my inbox at hotmail would be permanently full and I would never get to reply to any of you! REPLY Idle Berry - I love Norwich! Well, I love the people anyway! We had a group of five Norwich lads stay with us in our 2 bedroom flat in 97-98 (one of them was shagging my flatmate) and I have to say they are the most lovely travellers I have ever met. And Planet Norwich by Roy & HG was also a fantastic show - I always watched out for the boys in the audience, but alas! I never saw them! We also had a lovely lad from Glasgow stay with us kilt & all (he dragged it all over the world with him, would you believe?) Very strange... Mark Whitney " I keep falling in love I canÂ’t help myself. Not with real people, obviously, that would be silly. " This is what I really wanted to reply to today - I know it was a while ago. I have not been in love with anyone for three years at least - except with imaginary people. For example - Romeo in Baz Luhrmanns Romeo & Juliet; Tyler Durden in Fight Club, and most recently Count Nicholas Rostóv in War & Peace (yes, the book!). I guess it's just because my life is so lacking in romance and the like such as a nice man (or woman, I have tried that before, but it wasn't what I was looking for). Yes, it's sad that I can fall in love with a character from a book, but my life is sad......I miss nice people; nice boys; my ex from 3 years ago (I must admit - I feel I must be truthful) Boo hoo..... Yes, I think I will cry now. I have also fallen in love with songs - namely rollercoaster ride and ease your feet in the sea. Maybe that's why I'm obsessed by b&s..... DIRTY DREAM NUMBER 2 Would you believe this is soooo like my friend Lara? She met Sean Hughes when he was out for the Fringe Festival years ago (admittedly he was only out for a shag, but he didn't get one as she had a boyfriend) and they have remained friends ever since. He came out solo year before last and we had drinks. He really is a lovely guy - I had just broken up with this wanker Drum & Bass head (need I say more?) and Sean was lovely to me and gave me a big hug and insisted I would be fine (it was only a matter of hours before I was balling in his show because he was chatting about how relationships are a waste of time and you will never find anyone, you just go from person to person when the old gets boring). Babbling Yes, I have been babbling - I'm sorry but I feel like I've found a new home with you guys, and I actually have something to say that makes sense to more than one person out of ten. HOUSEMATES I know how you feel. I live on my own now. It's just easier that way. Corpora - >P.S. it's scary how they actually found the cure for depression, isn't it? What's unreal is how well it works. I have friends who used to be on the brink who talk about Zoloft like it's their best friend. All I can say is that, to anyone who's had it, there's nothing beautiful at all about depression. It sucks. I'd be happy to see it wiped off the earth. Sad is sad, but depression is death. The little girls understand.< Yes, the little girls DO understand... I've talked long enough. I've been at work all morning, and I have not done a thing. So off to work now. Cheers everyone - lovely to meet you! Love & Kisses - Juliya "Watching your face, that makes an empty room of this crowded place, I stand, not speaking - terrified to see You grown more lovely, and still lost to me." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From freezebum at xxx.com Tue Feb 1 03:30:46 2000 From: freezebum at xxx.com (yellow bananas) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 03:30:46 GMT Subject: Sinister: the ego has landed Message-ID: <20000201033047.62534.qmail@hotmail.com> so i finally got out of the nursery. i thought i would have a lot to say, but no, i'm still my same old self. my name huey, i'm from singapore, but i now study in perth, australia, both of which are b & s deserts. i'm currently back in singapore for a month-long holiday. i had forgotten how much i disliked the country in the first place and only remembered the good things. or maybe it's just because i'm missing the big day out, where i could have caught primal scream and stuff. so would the list be considered 'twee' or 'grate'? H ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jennpr at xxx.edu Tue Feb 1 05:50:50 2000 From: jennpr at xxx.edu (jennpr at xxx.edu) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 00:50:50 -0500 Subject: Sinister: snow and slush Message-ID: <3896743A.B6C5F89C@eden.rutgers.edu> Everyone that just got out of the nursery is posting so i figure this a good time for myself to finally do the same. i got out of it a while ago though....a bit nervous. my name is jennifer, too common of a name. i never liked it growing up cause someone would call "a jennifer" and it never seemed to be me. so i learned to never look around when called. i go to rutgers university in new brunswick new jersey and i am somewhat okay with that. i plan to move north when i graduate though. i work two jobs and am too involved with school stuff that it started to intrude in my social life, losing someone that i was "seeing" last semester. i liked him too. the first time i ever heard belle and sebastian was about a year and a half ago(?) in a friends dorm. i was really impressed and instantly went out and bought sinister. i dream of the day i get to see them..i think i got into them only weeks after they were here...grrr. i emailed them and asked them to play at my school but i don't think they are interested cause they never mailed me back. but i guess that is it... i am happy to finally post it is still snow and slush here which makes for some messy walks around campus. i hope it is better tomorrow. jenn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LookingDownward at xxx.com Tue Feb 1 05:48:30 2000 From: LookingDownward at xxx.com (LookingDownward at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 00:48:30 EST Subject: Sinister: They called him 'popcorn'... Message-ID: <6b.148f1d7.25c7cdae@aol.com> Beautiful people! School starts again (for me) to-morrow; the snow's almost gone: spring must be coming, which means that I ought to be digging through my laundry-heap looking for anything pastel. I sat on a train last night completely mesmerised by the conductrix's metallic-pink nails--quite the shade of chocolate, egg-shaped candies. It's now my third semestre, and I'm fully prepared to relive the awful disappointment of not finding a single Classics professor who wants desperately to sleep with me. This is a bit outdated, but I'd like to say that I like the English language. Quite much, thank you. This being because, although I fancy I can flirt tolerably well in French, my conversational knowledge of said language comes only through pop music, the labels of beauty products and Canadian foods (which I find in New York frequently), and Balzac's Comedie Humaine; as such, I'm sure I sound like a fool. Although not much more foolish than when I say 'Your eyes enchant me,' or something of similar romantic grandeur. Showing us how well diaper-trained she is, Radiation girl expressed: > I have not been in love with > anyone for three years at least - except with imaginary people. For > example - Romeo in Baz Luhrmanns Romeo & Juliet; Tyler Durden in Fight > Club, > and most recently Count Nicholas Rost�v in War & Peace (yes, the book!). Ah! So close to my heart! Count Rost�v is indeed a fine fantasy-lover; more so than any other boy in any other Russian novel that I've read. I would at this point like to recommend War & Peace to everybody here who can stomach a long book (with the hope that a popular movie will be made of it, spurring the publication of many abridged versions, much like they now do with _Les Mis�rables_, which, although of necessarily inferior quality, will make the experience slightly more accessible to those of us who can't). And I would also like to opine that love for fictional characters is perfectly constructive. I've had an on-again/off-again sleeptime love-affair with Robert Lovelace (of Richardson's _Clarissa_'s fame) for nearly two years now, even though every bit of sense I have tells me that he's wicked in a bad way. And something dead, too, if the text of the narrative is to be believed. Lastly, I recently acquired a pair of lovely striped jeans without accounting for the improbable length of my legs. Having got them home tonight and tried to think of ways to lengthen the trousers, I'm quite convinced that the thing cannot be done in a fashionable manner (which, when dealing with striped trousers, is of ultimate importance). I would like to offer them, *completely free** to anybody who wants them (although, in the case of more than one person caring for such an article, a haiku competition may be resorted to). I imagine they'd fit a slight-figured person, five-and-a-half feet tall. Pictures and accurate, metric measurements can be provided upon request. -Paralis. * completely free excepting p&p, as necessary. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheeXVirus at xxx.com Tue Feb 1 06:22:23 2000 From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 01:22:23 EST Subject: Sinister: belle & sebastian at starbucks Message-ID: I was in there today 'cause it's a nice place for studying and they were playing something from belle and sebastian (sleep the clock around, I think). Guess it was on some mix tape supplied by the company. Are they on many of these in-store music system thingies now? Seemed pretty neat to me. - J +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarahduston at xxx.com Tue Feb 1 08:04:20 2000 From: sarahduston at xxx.com (Sarah Duston) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 00:04:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: The strangest form of literary criticism Message-ID: <20000201080420.18049.qmail@web3005.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am on my own...I've decided to hazard a post without my sidekick, or wait, I am the sidekick! The Dynamic duo is split in two! Not to worry though, Leyla & I will post together again...it's just... I have things to say... In response to Martin's witty post that made me laugh on more than one occasion: >"As Arthur Koestler once said himself "If the creator >had a purpose in equipping us with a neck, he surely >meant us to stick it out." But I'm not sure he >thought the same about pigeon's arses." This is quite a clever retort to a pigeon indeed! So, here's a poem by R.A. Higgins in honor of their arses that has nearly complete irrelevance to your post (except for the vocabulary): He Fought Pigeons' Arses, Didn't He? ... And he said to her 'If its war you want I'll give you war. We'll have our own war, Spraying the arses of dead pigeons black and we'll fight seven days out of six. And the seventh day of the six we'll discuss the situation, and I'll bet you twenty black pigeons' arses there'll still be nothing but lust between us.' The moral of this poem by Rita Ann Higgins is (in it's most condensed form): love is as futile as spraying the arses of dead pigeons black. Now that is waxing poetic! I wonder if the astute Professor Pigeon will try to have a go at that! Speaking of Professors: I made my favorite professor a tape of Belle and Sebastian with a carefully compiled repertoire that spans the whole of their work, beginning with Tigermilk, moving in a flowing manner through the EP's and IYFS to end with the high moments of TBWTAS. I completed this tour de force of a tape with some choice Looper for the final piece de resistance. How's that for something worth listening to? This professor specializes in Irish studies (mainly working on the esoteric writings of Yeats) and is interested in modern Scottish literature. So, I thought that this music would be appropo (considering the Scottish interests and I once mentioned that Bernard MacLaverty's daughter Ciara is the cover star for IYFS and she was quite impressed). But, she still hasn't commented on the tape--it has been nearly two months, and I feel to silly to ask...so, what to do? Hmmm... Today I bought myself some lovely orchids, of white and turquoise. A woman at the check-out said after inquiring what I was doing (buying flowers, obviously), "It's sad to see such a pretty girl buying herself flowers. You should get your boyfriend to do that!" This bothered me a bit, but I just smiled and said something ridiculously reminiscent of 'times gone by' about how boys don't buy flowers these days (what the hell do I know? I'm not about to tell her about my single status). Then as another defensive action to ease her wary stare, I added that I wasn't intending on waiting for anyone to buy them for me. She shook her head in dismay, and I just stood there feeling stupid. (Why can't I buy myself flowers without the hassle? Last time I tried, the check-out boy felt compelled to ask me out with an argument along the same lines.) She then proceeded to eye me cautiously, as if to say 'Watch out for the girl who can buy herself flowers!' I walked out of the store wondering what statement is being declared in the action of buying flowers. Was I claiming some sort of independence? What is this world coming to when girls start buying *themselves* flowers? *Well, there you go: Pigeons' arses, mute but critical Professors, and check-out line humiliation. Where are you Leyla??* Cheers All, Sarah __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hicks81 at xxx.com Tue Feb 1 12:55:45 2000 From: hicks81 at xxx.com (grisham ohairy) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 04:55:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: silly people Message-ID: <20000201125545.848.qmail@web123.yahoomail.com> oooh. only 3 glasses thrown at me this time. i think i will stay at home with my parka next time, as opposed to getting heckled by a load of scary manson-u-likes. someone actually asked me whether my mum lets me out this late. which is quite worrying since he was about 13 and it should have been way past his actual bedtime. except this was in rugeley, and he probably had a small anti-tank weapon in his pocket. so i ran away, owing to the "can't-think-of-a-witty-reply-until-i-am-out-of-ear-and-fist-shot". damn my slow, although quite clever after a small time being allowed to warm up, brain. someone said something about falling in love with fictional people, and i have a confession to make: i am in love with misty from pokemon. she is de bomb. if i was ash...ooooh...the lucky boy. i'm off now to do something productive with my time, you lachies yous. mr matthew hicks esq. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geof82 at xxx.com Tue Feb 1 13:04:09 2000 From: geof82 at xxx.com (geof geof) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 05:04:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Lightning strikes! Message-ID: <20000201130409.9788.qmail@web217.mail.yahoo.com> This is a poem that my freind wrote, i think it is nice, but a bit sad, kinda like b+s. Think- Literally. Silent voices whisper to me As I lay on my bed. Their invisible arms reach out to me And touch me as only they can. There is no anger or hatred or love Just an emptiness of nothing. Their fingers slowly wrap around My bony little wrists. I feel them finally envelop me Like a wave across my mind I know you are holding a thought of me Your thoughts are my silent binds. Is anyone at Loughborough? If so please email me! I am reading catch 22 at the moment, and although i am not gay, i do quite like Yossarian. He just kicks major league ass! Geof __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Tue Feb 1 13:18:33 2000 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (Angel Blackwell) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 08:18:33 EST Subject: Sinister: I'm a little black rain cloud Message-ID: <20000201131833.46749.qmail@hotmail.com> I've had a little black rain cloud following me around all weekend and it's not the Winnie the Pooh kind...I need a teddy bear. Man, my halo is getting all tarnished in the process as well. I think I just screwed up one of my best friendships of late, and I'm so depressed I'm listening to erasure... I also got chewed out in front of fellow workers yesterday by my new boss which was completely humiliating, as I rarely screw up big time. Welcome to the newest wave of nursery escapees, and speaking of which, were did those tag teaming sweethearts go??? I guess everyone's busy with school and all, wish I was smart enough to be a school still. "I've been lonely, I caught a glimpse of someone's face, It was mine and I'd been crying..." Now I feel better, erasure's gone and I'm gonna go eat...I wish I liked chocolate...maybe I'll get something with melted cheese on it...mmmm... love and squishes the angel blackwell };> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From petal at xxx.uk Tue Feb 1 14:56:21 2000 From: petal at xxx.uk (hannah walklate) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:56:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: happy little love bunny Message-ID: Hello i have never writen to the list before, but as i have only just been given a voice i feel slightly obliged to say hello ...... lots of love and sexy hugs to you all Hannah Excite -- Control Yourself. This E-mail brought to you by Excite's free E-mail service. Get your own E-mail address at http://www.excite.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Feb 1 15:11:11 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:11:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm Picking Up Jug Vibrations Message-ID: <01bf6cc6$934ec280$LocalHost@itjfvkli> I would have liked to start this message by swearing in Thai, like a Thai Stephen Pastel, only harder. The links from Mistopher Chris's website took me to the following interview with the bloke who played drums on the British Rock Symphony tour featuring Roger Daltrey. It's the Sister Disco 70s WHO Web of the Week: http://www.rogerdaltrey.net/gerson.html I also visited the Woof Guide to Wock, where a Belle and Sebastian entry can be found. It mentions "an obsessive Internet fan base". I think they mean YOU. Yes, YOU. It's a terrible entry, much worse than the one we did, hundreds of years ago, back when the list was a cosy community of inbred crofters and sheepshaggers on acid. Mind you, they have kindly inserted a deliberate mistake to keep us on our toes. See if you can find it at: http://www.roughguides.com/rock/index.html I've been listening to the new Primal Scream album, "Excrementor". It reminds me of Frank Sidebottom when he was watching Freddie Mercury on Live Aid and had to take the back of the telly and pour some water inside. My favourite bit is when Bobby G has a go at rapping. It's like a Little and Large sketch. So thumbs up there then. There's a nice Chumbwamba feel to some of the lyrics too. "Jimi Hendrix Live at Woodstock" is a right load of rubbish though. You can't hear the bongos. "And what," thought Alice, "is the point of a two-pronged bongo attack if you can't hear it?" I see Villa did well in the cup. That was me, not Alice. Someone mentioned people whose favourite childrens' television programme was only on in their region, to which I can only say "Gus Honeybun". And "Adrian Evans". And "Tim Hopkins". I'm going to buy an empty slipcase and do a "dirty" in it. Peter xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 50158120 at xxx.hk Tue Feb 1 15:53:16 2000 From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 23:53:16 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Toby's losing it Message-ID: <949420396.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk> Hi Girls ands Boys, (Playing "Haunted Dancehall" by The Sabres of Paradise now") Just ve seen is released in DVD format. I am still thinking of buy it or not coz it has no special feature... and i ve got a CD-R(in VCD format) of it. It is a "The Who" movie. I wonder: What will a "B&S" movie looks like?? What'd the people wear? What'd they listen to? What'd they... Are they Chain-smoker(I am a chain-smoker if I am in a cafe,bar or club.), will they like to read? go to movie?(it is me) Or just like the comic of the story of Sebestian?? (Personal Id/Ego/SuperEgo) Wanna be a Graham Coxon-clone, Wanna be a Fake Moz, Wanna be a Sebastian. I dunno who am i? clubber? (I hate ATB's tune) Moz-zer? (Moz is changing too) Indie Kid? (mmm...) Poet (sister, I am a...)? B-boy? (i am sick of hip hop after two from dust till dawn hip hop club nite) Goth? (mmm...) Blurry People? ( i wear "bean" chain, DM, Adi,Fred Perry coz of Blur but... I.....Freak out now..404 File Not Found...) Who are u? other B&S mates??? I listen to "Tigermilk" Today, again. The feeling is so warm... B&S is the greatest music exp. i ve ever had. It is my Blur at 95... Report from Hong Kong, Toby +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nelle at xxx.se Tue Feb 1 16:14:10 2000 From: nelle at xxx.se (Ellen) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 18:14:10 +0200 Subject: Sinister: je suis trés belle.. Message-ID: <38970648.74C3@hem.passagen.se> ..and sebastian. ; ) sinister-luvvies - i spent my weekend in a ferry on the baltic sea, trying to avoid being thrown overboard. sort of, anyway, saturday night waves were 10 meters high. i locked myself up in the bathroom and stayed there, while my friends sat in the cabin and sang "my heart will go on.." no gentle waves there - ha-ha. amused to find that you're all spelling english like the children i teach at school- "grate", "gurl". keep up the good work and my darlings will never have to use a dictionary. to the one who gave me my listcrush vote - i love you endlessly. whoever you are, wherever. =^= (hug) /ellen consider it - i'm scandinavian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". 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References: <38970648.74C3@hem.passagen.se> Message-ID: <38970856.4E01@hem.passagen.se> i wrote: "to the person who gave me my listcrush vote - i love you endlessly." i just wanted whoever to know i still love him/her/them, even though it seems he/she/they no longer fancy me. hm-hm. my vote is gone. hm-hm. i suppose i just have to go look for another one, then. ; ) /ellen, again. this time you really consider it - i am scandinavian, you know! ; ) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GOLDSTEINPC at xxx.uk Tue Feb 1 17:20:15 2000 From: GOLDSTEINPC at xxx.uk (Goldstein Paul) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:20:15 GMT Subject: Sinister: Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:16:37 -0000 Message-ID: it is a word, a tremor unheard alone in the field of an unlit fuse. ***************************************** It usually takes more than three weeks to prepare a good impromptu speech. - Mark Twain [Samuel Langhornne Clemens] (1835-1910) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dee at xxx.ie Tue Feb 1 17:48:23 2000 From: dee at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:48:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: sigh...followed by lots of complaining Message-ID: oh hello there young list, I've had the worst day. Without going into detail, because I can't , I'm not legally bound to (yes, to those of you who know - that little discreet matter of mine has hit the academic coucil , I know I know, I brought about my own downfall, shut up okay) - sheesh, anyway, this little legal fracas of mine is going to affect just 1/3 of my MA mark, and it won't be entirely discredited like I thought but still, the shame and humiliation that I had to endure was not worth it. I have a greek test coming up and asked my teacher for some help, because I am too terrifed of the swots (its not as much fun as it looks being the class clown/rebel/sitter-down-the-backer) and in front of the cameras he said, yes certainly and then ten minutes later (the agreed time for consultation) he said fuck off. Well obviously he put it subtley but I felt like crying and teenagely (its a word) saying, "Okay (sob) it doesn't matter. So I whinged to various people and got lost in the maths -physics dept - very scary place, never even knew it existed, and met up with my friends, quite by accident. now it gets complicated. Last summer, a friend of mine kissed my ex boyfriend which I thought was a terribly immoral thing to do and we fell out and never spoke again. Last weekend she claims I totally blanked her on the street. Strangely at the exact same time, I was walking through a different part of town and saaw a girl who looked quite like her but not enough to scowl at. Now I'm in trouble for blanking her even though I didn't. My lookalike did, and I'm renowned for having lookalikes. Everyone I meet for the first time says, oh I'm sure I met you before. I used to lie and say, welll you know the never forget video by take that, I'm the girl sitting in the field with her friends leaning backwards with war paint on her face. They always make a half smile then and go, well I think its from something else, eh did you used to go to the grove ? and I said yes and then we consent that we probably kissed in our youth but anyway...huge digression from being a misery guts; back to being a misery guts. Now I've been kissing my friend;s brother because well it started as a move on his part to shut me up one night and turned into festive high jinks and then became a slightly regular feature except it was totally illegal because my friend really disappproved , claiming it was for my own good but it wasn't it was just selfishness. Well I exerted a little bit of selfishness myself because on his last night (he has moved 30,000 miles away for two years - yes I know the effect I have on them) I hogged him all to myself. Apparently his family got very upset by his disappearance trick and are very upset and angry with me. This anger and upset is being channelled through one member of the family who decides to vent huge frustrations my way and generally say hurtful stuff. Even though I know I was wrong too. Other friends think I should just apologise to her and in a way that would be very easy but at the same time, were I more argumentative a person I would fight along these lines, if she didn;t object so much to the whole me and her brother fling in the first place, we wouldn't have had to go underground and I woudln't have had any reason to hog him. I'm also in trouble with another friend who had a bad fall and a knock on the head the previous weekend which resulted in a trip to hospital which she neglected to tell her family about, which I thought was my duty as head blabber to do so now I am in deep trouble for that too. And my last single friend has tied the knot and has crossed that very annoying threshold of being in love and putting the boyfriend first. And I'm in work on my own tonight. At least my hat and gloves and scarf match. They are a very becoming shade of dark blue which "brings out the colour of my eyes" apparently. You passsed with honours if you read down this far. if you can answer this question , you get a first : what is the friends brothers name ? answers on a postcard please. _____________________________________________________________________________ Denise Power. Yeah, I changed the sig, way too pretentious for unrelated posts. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SlowRobot at xxx.com Tue Feb 1 17:28:54 2000 From: SlowRobot at xxx.com (blair hicks) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 09:28:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: one of these things first Message-ID: <16066651.949426134852.JavaMail.imail@bubbles.excite.com> dearest list, gloomy, gloomy weather this week, especially for the lone star state. i've christened this "nick drake appreciation week", and have been ramming taped copies of "pink moon" and "bryter layter" down the throats of all my friends, who seem pleasantly surprised, if not somewhat frightened by my sudden outburst of generosity. it's been so nice recieving mail from several of you about my transformers mailing list. if i had my way, you'd all recieve a suitcase full of small, unmarked currency, to spend on whatever you pleased. so much love! i finally got around to purchasing a rachel's record this week, and found it to be amazing. truly beautiful stuff. sorry that i haven't had more to say, but my very good friend has just gottne engaged to an internet aquaintance that she's only known for a month, so i've had some things to deal with. you've been lovely for listening. bundle up and stay warm, kids. fondly, blair p.s. i've been trying to use the sinister chat room, but as i am a blair of very little brain, i've had quite a bit of difficulty. if anyone could e-mail me with some sage-like advice concerning all this chatting business, it would be very much appreciated. _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freeworld.excite.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SlowRobot at xxx.com Tue Feb 1 17:30:22 2000 From: SlowRobot at xxx.com (blair hicks) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 09:30:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: one of these things first Message-ID: <24951081.949426222025.JavaMail.imail@bubbles.excite.com> dearest list, gloomy, gloomy weather this week, especially for the lone star state. i've christened this "nick drake appreciation week", and have been ramming taped copies of "pink moon" and "bryter layter" down the throats of all my friends, who seem pleasantly surprised, if not somewhat frightened by my sudden outburst of generosity. it's been so nice recieving mail from several of you about my transformers mailing list. if i had my way, you'd all recieve a suitcase full of small, unmarked currency, to spend on whatever you pleased. so much love! i finally got around to purchasing a rachel's record this week, and found it to be amazing. truly beautiful stuff. sorry that i haven't had more to say, but my very good friend has just gotten engaged to an internet aquaintance that she's only known for a month, so i've had some things to deal with. you've been lovely for listening. bundle up and stay warm, kids. fondly, blair p.s. i've been trying to use the sinister chat room, but as i am a blair of very little brain, i've had quite a bit of difficulty. if anyone could e-mail me with some sage-like advice concerning all this chatting business, it would be very much appreciated. _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freeworld.excite.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Tue Feb 1 18:41:53 2000 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 18:41:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I feel alright when you smile Message-ID: <389728F1.5A63041C@cs.strath.ac.uk> Hello, hello, it's good to be cack. Martin's riposte to his flighty nemesis was very clever and all, but to no avail, for as everyone knows these birds only speak pidgeon English. Ne'er mind. He said I was great so I forgive him his foolishness. Oh, and keep away from that Casarotto boy, if you wish to retain your sanity. In agreeing with everything I have ever said (?) I fear he has finally flipped his shiny lid. I knew it was only a matter of time. My computer is currently playing nasty tricks on me and inserting extra spaces whenever it feels like it. This is troubling, however I shall persevere. My favourite item of fashion at the moment is my sister's new "Little Miss Naughty" bra, which is very nice indeed. However I doubt a picture will be forthcoming for Erica's fashion page. Still, I may get round to snapping my red t-shirt at some point in the future. Di shouldn't be worried about her dreams, as I can always top anyone with more disturbing ones. Recently I dreamt that Tim Hopkins was a gangland hard-man who went around duffing people up and bought Heaven 17 records in Debenhams. You can't even buy records in Debenhams! I am disturbed. Moira: > Speaking of Glasgow, I have to say that the 13th Note is one of my favorite > places in the whole wide world. Anyone who lives in or has been to Glasgow > (and also the 13th Note) will agree with me because it's one of those > undeniable truths. This is an undeniable truth, cos it's also one of my favouritest places in the whole universe. Where else can you find the chorus to "Race for the Prize" scrawled on the toilet door? To the one person that really annoys, sorry. And ha, ha. Fiona: > i still > never learnt my times tables after all its best efforts, and look at > me now - a maths student!!! (well half of one anyway) What's your other half? I'm guessing it's an otter, but I could be wrong. Imagine having an otter's hind quarters. You'd be able to swim quite well, although you'd probably have to have some sort of operation if you wanted to walk upright. An ice-breaker at parties, however. "Yes, I'm in telecommunications.........oh, and I have the bum of an otter". "I notice you're half otter; does this entitle you to extra benefits?" "You'd think, wouldn't you?" Apparently scientists have just found some rare hairy-nosed otters, which they thought were extinct. Which is good. Michele: > This made me think about the Beats, and what was happening then... and it > made me think of today and things how they are, and why it looks like some > periods of time are more "intense" or "exciting" than others. I was thinking about this, about how I often think I would have liked to be the age I am now when the Smiths were around or when REM started, but then I thought hang on a sec, if I was ten years younger I bet in ten years time I would want to be this age now, and enjoy seeing the heyday of B&S more than anything else. I think you understand what I mean. I'm sure I could put in a quote by Elizabeth Smart or someone about nothing else existing except NOW, but I'm too stupid to think of one. Erica: > There was a huge JELLY WRESTLING contest at school yesterday What kind of school do you go to, Scarlet dear? Does this kind of thing happen at schools around the country, or is it only Erica's twisted place of learning? Toby: > B n S/ B n S Tee > I only ve Tigermilk,TBWTAS and TIJAMRS. > I luv B n S so much > Wanna get the Tee. It is a good tee for a good band. I think Blur's Tee > is Bad Tee for a Good Band. Some Oasis Tee is Good Tee for a bad band. I just need someone to explain this to me, if possible. Does it have something to do with golf? Paul: > Go and buy tompaulin's 7" on action records (www.action-records.co.uk) > It's called ballad of the bootboys b/w wedding song. I've never heard it but I agree. I'm guessing the drumming is very good. After hearing of the Daily Record appeal I suddenly have the urge to send them an old beer mat with the words "Fuck You" scrawled over it. I don't know why. Word of mouse activism: good! DMC UK: > The Foxgloves were also tops - their first electric set provoking an > entirely spontaneous & unrehearsed "Judas!" "I don't believe you, you're a > liar!" exchange between Trousers & Hopkins. I only repeat this cos it's the funniest thing I've read in ages. However, though most people believe the gig actually took place in The Poetry Cafe in London, it actually "happened" in a chip shop in Swindon. Ellen: > amused to find that you're all spelling english like the children i > teach at school- "grate", "gurl". As I always say, if you can't trust Sarah Clarke and Alex Chilton, who can you trust? Not me anyway. I feel I should leave you with something thought-provoking and profound, but I can only think of this: If the moon is made of cheese, couldn't we use it to trap giant space-mice? Alasdair XX "The copy and paste bonanza boy" "Surprisingly light as a feather" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From invisible_boy at xxx.net Tue Feb 1 19:00:30 2000 From: invisible_boy at xxx.net (invisible_boy) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:00:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: hiding from the weather Message-ID: <001501bf6ce7$aaa44240$8bd7b0c2@oemcomputer> And so my virginal post catches me feeling all melancholy. It's a cold Northern night and I'm genuinley a bit scared that one of the trees out front is about to uporoot and fall straight into the house. Very nasty. I'm glad my flat is at the back. I had envisaged that moving from Newcastle to Leeds would bring the benefit of improved weather conditions. How very niave.... This week I've been told by my friendly optician that a pair of glasses was probably in order, and so for the first time in my 22 tears (going on 23....scary) I'm a bespecticled boy. I asked the (not-so)kindly assistant if they'd help me to see better after two bottles of wine but the only reply I got was the kind of sarcastic glare that people in the service industry ought not to know. Still, at least now I can walk around actually being able to see the edges of objects, rather than shapless blurs which I may or may not be about to walk into. But do they make me look, intelligent, reliable and thoughtful, or do they just make me look kind of nerdy? Well, the jury's still out on that one. Tommorow I'm going to buy tickets to go to a Fall gig. A prospect which fills me with as much trepidation as it does excitement, to be honest. The phrases "Fall gig" and "riot" seem to crop up slightly to often in the same sentence for my liking, but on the plus side, the gig isn't until March so Mr E (Ebeneezer?) Smith has plenty of time to sack his whole band (again) before then. Maybe it'll be something I don't need to worry about. That was me. Saying hello. Kev (alias invisible_boy, alias shambolic, alias me) --- Cronenberg - http://www.explode.to/davidcronenberg/ Regular Chickens - http://www.explode.to/regularchickens/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boucherphilip at xxx.com Tue Feb 1 19:58:43 2000 From: boucherphilip at xxx.com (The Vicar) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 19:58:43 GMT Subject: Sinister: Back At Last Message-ID: <20000201195843.93345.qmail@hotmail.com> Deary me, For some reason, now beyond me, i deleted everything on my PC and re-installed it. I did not know what i was doing, and i only just got back on, after many long expensive phone calls to customer services lines all over the world. On saturday i cut my out of control hair down, im surprised they did not need to do it with hedge trimmers, now my ears feel cold and naked all the time, and i get comments from everyone i meet who was used to 'Bouch-Curley-Curl' (A nickname from long ago). I missed B+S night at the star and garter last friday due to illness. Why I cant be ill at any other timne i dont know, but i was angered all the same. That will have to do for B+S content, im drained right now, but it will be nice to be able to read all my lovely mails again. Vic. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MBP99KLC at xxx.uk Tue Feb 1 20:12:04 2000 From: MBP99KLC at xxx.uk (Katy) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:12:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Relationships, hey hey hey Message-ID: <1BE2F3117EE@scammonden.shef.ac.uk> Hello everyone. You know, people talk about beauty vs personality and it seems like it must be beauty when you first see someone, but I'm pretty sure most of that is really personality too. It's all in someone's expression, the way they hold themselves, the way they look when they're talking. As Darren Hefner said: "And I swear it's not the beauty It's something inside It's the grace that you hide It's the sweetness that's within." I met a nice boy. Who likes me. But right now in a way I'd rather have a really bad crush on someone who never even notices me. And the thing is I was quite happy being single and I swore I would be until I found someone it was magic to be with. Because even kissing people that you half-like always leads to confusion.(I'm guessing that Sinister people will understand this kind of thing.) So I will try to exercise some self-control and not do any more kissing type things until I work out if there's enough magic there. katy x "I take her to the seaside Where she likes to spin and twirl She says 'sure' and 'cool' and 'yeah' She's my monosyllabic girl" - NOFX +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Tue Feb 1 21:47:22 2000 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:47:22 EST Subject: Sinister: Oh yes westlife's new song is sooo cool Message-ID: In case you didn't notice, the subject line is sarcasm. Oh. Hello you lot. I'm awfly glad that you get 'sinister' coming up before each sinister post, or i'd delete half of them as porn mail or something of the like. I e mailed a boy today. It was a very long and embarassing mail that i wish i hadn't sent because he'll tell everyone i'm a psycho. People who're not on sinister just don't understand me. Hmm...what shall I talk about. Hmm. Someone was supposed to have put a todger up on the bodyparts page, but my browser is protecting my innocence and says that the page can't be displayed. Oh and i got a list crush vote. I got a mail telling me so. And my e mail address is up on the sinister page and everything. I feel so important and loved. . Someone must have voted by accident though. I've not voted for anyone yet, since your only allowed one vote and I don't know who to choose, because sinister's just one big twee brothel. I don't think the box set is a grate idea, because I can't afford it. But then again if jeepster just released stuff by what I can afford, then they'd prolly only release stuff on chirstmas and my birthday. Yesterday I set my room on fire, sort of. I was burning candles, because they smell nice, and one of them started to make a really funny smell. I didn't want to put it out so i leant over it to open the window, and accidentaly set my copy of melody maker alight, which i was holding. So it was burning all over the place and the ashes went all over the carpet, my computer and the curtains and the bed and basically everywhere. And i was frightened shitless, because i've never set anything on fire before. And the smoke was stinging me eyes and i couldn't breath. So being me, and staying really cool headed in a crisis, I panicked and started crying. Then it sort of dawned on me that i'd get caught, and i shoved all the ashes into a drawer. But my mum caught me, and guess what, she wasn't exactly delighted. So remind me not to become an arsonist. Tommorrow i'll bungee jump with no elastic, so that i'll have something interesting to write about. Look aol gave me a signature! Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alan.singfield at xxx.com Tue Feb 1 22:14:26 2000 From: alan.singfield at xxx.com (Alan Singfield) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:14:26 -0000 Subject: Sinister: erm ... bathmat set ... swingball ...toaster ... goblin teasmaid ... a cuddly toy ... erm ... Message-ID: <6357CBA4ECC4D211A67C00805FD787D7065DF7@shuban.isoftplc.com> > In my experience there is always one flatmate who doesn't fit in with the > others. They become a the whipping boy/girl. It's healthy, except when you're > the outcast, which happened to me once. This rule applies no matter how small > the household is. If you live on your own, you will end up blaming yourself for > things you didn't do. You will also talk about yourself behind your back and > develop a crick in your neck. My (ex)flatmates were complete stoners, and they'd get the munchies and devour *everything* that I bought. B*stards. If only I'd thought to slip a bar of laxative chocolate in there. > I do have cuddly toys in my bed, but only so that I can make girls can go 'aah!' > but not want to sleep with me, and get lectures from exasperated friends (mainly > female) about how I am ruining my scoring potential. Tweeness as a > bloody-minded expression of a self-destructive urge. Nick, perhaps you just need to get more macho soft toys. Instead of pooh bear and piglet, what about a cuddly Vinny Jones and matching "tiny tears" Mike Tyson? What girls want never fails to confuse me. Jenowl, I'm *so* glad to hear that someone else likes spiked enemas. They're just like an ordinary enema, except with an extra dash of sloe gin and crystal sugar around the edge of the glass. I would not be seen at any sophisticated cocktail party without one. < B&S content > The very patiently awaited new album: I think we'll have to take matters into our own hands. There is a computer program I found, that you feed in poetry by a particular author, then it writes new poems in the style of said scribe. Well, it says it also works with song lyrics. Unfortunately, I couldn't get it to work. Bums. Perhaps thats whats taking the band so long. < Poop > I've just looked over this message and I've mentioned "number two" functions far too many times. Oh well. Perhaps next post I'll make every paragraph be to do with the province of kwa-zulu natal. But I can't spell it. And I don't know anything about it. Tune in at the same time next week to miss the programme entirely ... Spanners xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From porterww at xxx.edu Tue Feb 1 22:59:52 2000 From: porterww at xxx.edu (Will Porter) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:59:52 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Otters are terribly funny Message-ID: I've been giggling for about half the day. Among that staff at the library where I work, "I'm going to run down the hall" has become the euphemism of choice when one is going to abandon the circulation desk to use the bathroom. Of course, every time someone says to me that they are going to run down the hall, I immediately picture them jogging quite comically up and down the hall for no reason in particular. That seemed like it was going to be a much funnier anecdote that it turned out to be. I'm trying to find a poem by Bill Knott. The trouble is it's not a particularly famous poem, and I'm pretty sure the title of the poem is "Poem". Incidentally, Bill Knott calls a lot of his poems "Poem". Anyway, I committed it to memory years ago, and I'm not sure I remember it correctly, so I'd very much like it if someone could point me to a book that contains the poem. What I can remember of it is at the bottom of this message. katy sed: > Because even > kissing people that you half-like always leads to confusion.(I'm > guessing that Sinister people will understand this kind of thing.) Do I ever! It seems most of the time like the people who want to kiss me are not the ones I'm particularly interested in kissing, but when the lips are in your face, it's not hard to fall into the belief that some kissing is better than no kissing, because when you get right down to it, kissing is a pretty swell thing to do. I think there must have been a genius convention at my library today. (by which I mean that there was nothing of the sort, but rather that... oh you know what I mean) I've decided that I like LLPJ, though for a long time, Monica Queen's voice seemed like something that I very much did not like, though now it appears as though I was mistaken. On a separate note, I've just bitten my tongue and it hurts quite a lot and I feel very much like cursing very loudly. adios, Will The poem goes something like this (the bracketed [] comments are my comments): The way the world is not astonished by you (it doesn't blink a leaf) leads me to grop [if I recall correctly, Bill makes up words sometimes] that beauty is natural, unremarkable, and not to be spoken of except in the course of things: the course of singing and work-sharing, the course of squeezes and neighbors, the course of you, tying back your raving hair to go out, and the course, of course, of me, astonished by you the way the world is not. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox at xxx.com Tue Feb 1 23:27:55 2000 From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 23:27:55 GMT Subject: Sinister: it's his time of the month Message-ID: <20000201232755.38791.qmail@hotmail.com> Ah, February, February, February.... Has that been done yet? Songs with 'February' in them? You pop kids will know many, but I can think of only one: It was half-past February And he hadn't called since New Year's Day Name the song, kids - or switch off the television set and do something less boring instead ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From colinboy21 at xxx.com Tue Feb 1 23:30:26 2000 From: colinboy21 at xxx.com (colin thornton) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 15:30:26 PST Subject: Sinister: Photo Jenny Message-ID: <20000201233026.15488.qmail@hotmail.com> I'd like to give my list-crush vote to the girl, "Photo Jenny", who's picture is floating away on a balloon in the Dirty Dream #2 video. She is adorable... I miss Frente! I'd like to give another list crush to Angie Hart (wherever you are). Love, Colin p.s. Join the revolution- www.Adbusters.org ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Tigerxdare at xxx.com Wed Feb 2 00:49:12 2000 From: Tigerxdare at xxx.com (Tigerxdare at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:49:12 EST Subject: Sinister: coffee and belle and sebastian Message-ID: <45.b57471.25c8d908@aol.com> hello everyone, i am sure that you all have missed me. i have not posted in forever, but now i am back. i wasnt going to post but then i had a random b&s experience so i figured i would share it. well here it is- i recently dropped out of college and got a full time job at starbucks (for all of you european kids who dont know waht that is, it is a really nice posh, but chain coffee shoppe). so today was my first day there, and as i was working i ask about the music they play and i am told that starbucks has mixed cds specially made for the store and that is all we are allowed to play. the cds even have expiration dates and they send us new ones every month or so. so anyways, i am doing my work making my lattes and mochas when what do i hear??? belle and sebastian!!!! the huge chain store starbucks sends us mixed cds with belle and sebastian to play! can you beleive it!! i thought that was so rad. they were 2 songs even! the first one i heard was tbwtas! could you beleive that one? i mean i cant beleive they make mixed cds that rad and for them to play tbwtas! well that song is dirty in a way, so it shocked me that that was their choice.. i also got a new tattoo! i got a baby star that is red and faded into pink and is outlined in black on the inside of my wrist! it is way cute. ok darling i must go. xoxo, lauren cara +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redelvis at xxx.net Wed Feb 2 03:14:09 2000 From: redelvis at xxx.net (JR?) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 19:14:09 -0800 Subject: Sinister: you put my shine to shame... References: <20000126072857.23685.qmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <3897A101.98C07D02@pacbell.net> this is scary. cos theres a lot of people on this list. and people might actually read this. and this list has a really funny format where people post whatever didly they usually choose to didly at the moment. but you all seem friendly enough. im on a lot of lists and none of them are anything like this one. i never really indepthly read anyones posts, and im sorry for that. i'll read things as soon as i learn who some people are. so hello :) i'm daniel. i live in los angeles. and i'm 19. i listen to pavement, stone roses, blur, the divine comedy, stereolab, modest mouse, sleater-kinney, super furry animalia, geraldine fibbers, radiohead, travis, lush, and other various organized sound. i play some golf and rollerhockey. i'll spam you now.. this is my page. i'd like you to look at it and maybe even sign the guestbook so that i can varify your existance :) thank you if you do so. its nothing really, but i like it and i think you should look at it even for a little bit. its not even done! http://foolarchy.com/redelvis this is my friends page of music. i did it for him because i think he's a pretty good magician with music. he does things alone but he does some really good stuff. i just need him to get a band and then move to LA and then i can get him some gigs. but he might move to scandanavia or something soon. we'll see. http://www.gurlpages.com/music/jnthn you can talk with me online using three mediums. cos i do that a lot and i like random people. i sit here and i talk with people til the sun comes back up usually. and i'm "coxonryder" because i married graham coxon and then i left him because he was a puppy and then i married winona ryder but she left me for this actor. so my name now is daniel coxon ryder. icq-1010543 aim-coxonryder irc dalnet #pulpchat-coxonryder so thats all for now. i'll read you tomorrow. jusqu'à la fin, Daniel i'm not going to take any risks this time... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jnikolaeff at xxx.au Wed Feb 2 04:49:38 2000 From: jnikolaeff at xxx.au (Radiation Girl) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:19:38 +1030 Subject: Sinister: Bad Dream no. 1 Message-ID: <000801bf6d38$e8e74510$6d6bd88f@edu33040.systems.sa.gov.au> Hey guys, I'm in agony. I must have slept strangely last night and this morning I woke up with a sore shoulder and neck and my shoulder is clicking and I have a headache and it hurts to swallow. Hmmmmm ... however, I had some panadeine and a beer and it hurts a bit less now. This morning I was in agony - and it had to be on the day I had a job interview, didn't it? But I have an appt with a physio in 1 hour 45 mins and 21 seconds so I'm hanging on. The worst thing is I'm at work and have heaps of stuff to do, yet I can barely move my arm. Hmmm again - yes I'm winging (is that how you spell it? It looks silly...) Agony agony agony.. BAD DREAM The real reason I'm telling you guys this, however, is because I have just remembered the dream I had. Last night I dreamt (somebody loved me - no, only kidding but it would be nice...) that someone was trying to kill me. I can't remember who, though I think I know them, and I can't remember what they look like even slightly. But here's the weird part - I got shot in the dream: in the back and the stomach. No, I don't have a stomach ache, but I certainly got shot in the shoulder/back, and I'm not sure but I think I died, or at least went to hospital. The worst thing about it was I remember trying to hide and not succeeding - I would always hide too late and they would find me (I often have dreams that I'm being chased and bad things happen) Does anyone know what this could mean? And don't you think its strange that I woke up with a sore shoulder after dreaming I got shot in the shoulder? Hmmmm Bizarre dream nos 1&2 Hmmmm Yes - also if there is anyone who does analyse dreams, or would know more than me anyway, what does dreaming about going away on a plane mean, with someone from work who I am not interested in, and has a girlfriend? Hmmmm - that seems to be my favourite word at the moment. Sorry. Grieg Obviously in such cases as my scary dreams I WISH I could forget them. But I remember most dreams. All I know on the subject is that we have 5 dreams a night, and most people can't remember them. But what if we could remember them vividly? Sometimes I do, and if it's a really good dream I pine over it for days. Like in "Until the end of the World" (starring Sam Neill and featuring a soundtrack by U2 - it's not great but its an interesting concept) And I've had such other bad dreams like dreaming my ex was dead and I even went to his funeral, and it was so real I woke up in the morning crying and I had to call him to make sure he was alright. Any psych students please feel free to e-mail me. Sorry for dribbling - I'm in pain, please forgive me. Cheers, Juliya +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Wed Feb 2 05:12:40 2000 From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:12:40 -0500 Subject: Sinister: the shame... the shame... Message-ID: <200002020510.AAA01697@s1.nassau.cv.net> oh, dear. for the first time in quite awhile, i actually had to delete some sinister messages unread. all of them, in fact. i'm terribly sorry... i really didn't mean to. it's just that i really need to go to bed, and i just don't have -time-... i'm so, so sorry. i just thought you folks should know, i guess. - adam aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Wed Feb 2 05:17:41 2000 From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:17:41 -0500 Subject: Sinister: new! unique! Message-ID: <200002020515.AAA08454@s1.nassau.cv.net> two posts in a day, i know, but... yes, i'm offering a kissing service! any girls who wish to be kissed, simply inform me. i will process your order, and if you are eligible, you shall receive a kiss! yes, men may apply to, we do not discriminate. the fee is very small: a kiss in return is all i require for payment.  - adam aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Wed Feb 2 05:39:13 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:39:13 EST Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: yes. another annoying useless post from yours truly. but i'm avoiding going to sleep because unlike the lucky rest of you i can't seem to remember dreaming. at all. and that is my favourite part of sleep. my space bar is getting worse everyday(it doesn't work unless you hit it very hard.my thumbs get sore.) but i can't get a new one just yet. i have to save for my trip to dallas to see the cure this months and then to NYC in march to see ani difranco and some old very dear chumbly wumblies adam says: yes, i'm offering a kissing service! any girls who wish to be kissed, simply inform me. i will process your order, and if you are eligible, you shall receive a kiss! yes, men may apply to, we do not discriminate. the fee is very small: a kiss in return is all i require for payment.  sign me up. oh if they were only real kisses from a real live boy. sigh. i'm terribly lonely and all my friends have boyfriends and or girlfriends actually all of my friends are dating each other. (how did i get left out?). and valentines day is fast apporaching....it is by far one of my most depressive times. i reckon i should find some inner peace and be comfortable being single. but i don't have time for that nonsense. :/ as far as the dream thing goes. yes i believe there is something to dreaming about being shot and then waking with pain. most likely it was your subconcious' way of telling you that your sleeping funny and you best roll over.hehe. well. uh. yes. ciao bella/bello iris standhere www.angelfire.com/journal/standhere/index.html you are my honey cakes yummy pie schoonkums schookums baby love._i_don't_know_who_wrote_this_ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordiet at xxx.com Wed Feb 2 07:40:03 2000 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: 1 Feb 2000 23:40:03 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Do the kids and the colours keep her alive ? Message-ID: <20000202074003.23293.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From stray4f at xxx.net Wed Feb 2 04:58:36 2000 From: stray4f at xxx.net (===) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 23:58:36 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Do the kids and the colours keep her alive ? Message-ID: <200002020754.CAA5608884@pimout3-int.prodigy.net> > >Hi everybody: > > As usual in me, this is a request. Just two questions: is it true that >Robert Forster and Grant Mclennan are recording an album together ? will it >be released under the name of Go-Betweens ? Robert and Grant are indeed recording an album over the next few weeks in Portland Oregon. Janet Weiss of Sleater-Kinney/Quasi/Elliot Smith's band is drumming for them on the new recordings, and I believe they are likely to use the name "the Go-Betweens" on the release. > The other one is about Cat Power. What is she doing now ? definitely , >"Moon pix" is one of my favourite CD´s on the last 5 years. > Chan has completed an album of cover songs which she will be releasing on Matador in the Spring, and is planning to follow that with another album of her own material later in the year. > No B&S content, sorry. I also want the thank the people who answered me >the SYMM question. > > > Jordiet Sinistre +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From modpopstar at xxx.com Wed Feb 2 08:10:51 2000 From: modpopstar at xxx.com (Leyla McNickle) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:10:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Capital Flash..In Stupid Love Message-ID: <20000202081051.9832.qmail@web308.mail.yahoo.com> hello list kids. Its Leyla here. By myself. Sarah-less. As you may have noticed she posted to the list a couple days ago...all by herself. I suppose we have broken up...maybe? Nah, not to fear...the endless self indulgent rants of our double posts will live on! Its 3am right now, and my mind is the clearest it has been in ages. I feel compelled to post something...due to complete bordome and confusion. Today I played a great pretend game..that I like to call "I'm a Rockstar". Yes... see. What I do is dress up, go out..and pretend that everyone around me is a fan. So...picture this... I go out with some boy...and we go have some dinner. As we park the car..I state "oh, no...so many of my fans are here". Its really quite liberating and fun. You must try it. Not only do you scare the boy you are with...but you also come across as pretentious and arrogant.. WAY TO GO LEYLA!! thats the way to pull the lads... anyway. I think I have grown obsessed with the idea of becoming some sort of fabricated person. With all this mass media..culture.. I just want to redefine myself..over and over again. Be a girl one day, be a boy another day..experience things from every point of view possible. Rich, Poor...Old..Young. You can't live until you have lived everyones life... right? This is very Ziggy Stardust isn't it? Great, I am a rock and roll cliche. It's allready been done. Everything has allready been done... Some B&S content: I wanted to go see the screening of the "Dirty Dream #2" film... unfortunatly..I did not find out where/when the screening was taking place..before it was much too late. well, it is late... and I must dream.. if you are lucky.. I will tell you about it. I want to be just like You, leyla ===== http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pavilion/4941/ ******************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Wed Feb 2 09:17:10 2000 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 01:17:10 PST Subject: Sinister: politics and chicks Message-ID: <20000202091710.96567.qmail@hotmail.com> Whazzaup, homiez? Bad news: I broke both of my arms this monday, so I'm writing this with my nose. But I've got my cat here with me, so I'm ok. That was all a big fat lie. Almost got you there, didn't I? Sat on a train for five hours this sunday. There were these 3 idiots there, maybe 30 years old, who spent the whole trip on the trainbar (erm, you know what I mean). 20 minutes before my station they returned to their seats, drunk as hell. Now, I had my 70's jeans on. And my hair was rockin', it looked a bit like the hair that bloke from the Wannadies has, I had just washed it that morning (hang on, this will get more interesting, I promise). God they had fun, pointing at me and laughing. I had to go to the loo and I walked past them. "Well that cunt doesn't live on this planet", one of them said. And all the other ones laughed. "Yeah, what a fuckface." Ahh, where would we be without rednecks who have no brains? We'd all be fucking stylish, just like us here on the sinister. B&S- content coming up, so grab a banana. Or an orange. If you're not allergic to them, that is. Not that any of you know (or care, for that matter), there's the presidental election going on here in Finland. Only two candidates left, we started up with eight. A he and a she are fighting for... I don't know, maybe a big paycheck and free travels all around the globe. Well, the she (Tarja Halonen, like you'd recognize her name) has been the chairman of SETA, the finnish gay and lesbian movement. So she's cool as fuck, 'cause not many presidents anywhere in the whole wide world have been in such a controversial job, have they? Well, she held a party yesterday, trying to kiss the ass of the young population. So she held a concert. And hell, it worked for me. Now, I would've voted for her, even without being there yesterday. If I'd vote, that is. Politics bore me. Anyway, that's not my point. DJ Otto was there, spinning some records. And what did we hear? Northern soul. Fucking shitloads of it. And "String bean jean." And "Ease your feet...". Otto, we here at the tweeland salute you. Keep up the good work. AND the coolest sleazy chickrockband ever, Thee Ultra Bimboos played there too. I laughed out loud when they started the song "Liar", which they dedicated to the other candidate. Ultra Bimboos rawked. short leatherskirts. Great poses. ATTITUDE. In fact they have so much attitude that I'd pee in my pants if I ever had to talk to any of them. I'm off for a fag. Wanna join me? @--->--- Jake. Not petitE. "Alcohol is not a problem for me. It's the lack of it that really gets on my tits." -Me, yesterday. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hicks81 at xxx.com Wed Feb 2 09:36:45 2000 From: hicks81 at xxx.com (grisham ohairy) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 01:36:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: a nice dream wot i had Message-ID: <20000202093645.19070.qmail@web107.yahoomail.com> all hail me...coming up is my first ever post with B&S content! here goes... i once had a dream and it was funny, so i have writted it here for you: i woke up one morning and i went downstairs and looked in the fridge for some breakfast. i was rooting around when i found some tuna sandwiches, so i took them to the living room and ated and ated. i had almost finished when brain molko out of placebo came in and started whinging at me in that whiney voice of his about how they were his tuna sandwiches and that he was keeping them in the fridge by means of a convenient way of keeping them fresh until he wished to eat them. so i gave him back the remnants and went back to the kitchen, where i found isobel campbell putting sprite thru our water filter. do you think i should seek help over this? what does it mean? should i not eat tuna sandwiches for breakfast? should i put refreshing lemon-and-lime flavour carbonated drinks thru my water filter? mr matthew hicks esq. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Wed Feb 2 11:21:21 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 03:21:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20000202112121.704.qmail@web606.mail.yahoo.com> i had a dream last night, but some of it is too twisted to tell you. Anyway, it was about being forced to sell a house for demoltion to make way for a shopping centre. it was my childhood home. Then I resat my highers and got the highest possible mark for geography. Then I spoke to some dolls which had been sexually abused by curious teenage boys. They asked me to help them. The had wounds and cuts. Anyway, thats what I get for being gedrunken last night. met my pal on the train. where was she going? to the same place I was. What was she going to do? same thing I was- visit her boyfriend. Where did he live? near my boyfriend. So we got together and I enjoyed the vodka and it was great. I guess you had to be there.... heres the b+s content: we listened to B+S too. and her a reformed goth too. and she liked it. Shocking. Toodlepips. I still feel woosy. ===== visit the idle site:http://www.geocities.com/idleberry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Wed Feb 2 11:53:28 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 03:53:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: grrrr. Message-ID: <20000202115328.1679.qmail@web604.mail.yahoo.com> Just been on sinister thing. On boyfriends pootah. Nice to see what hes highlighted as his recent visits. such as bottoms and breasts. *eyebrow raised* i think its time for a little chat about this.... or something. irritated idle berry. ===== visit the idle site:http://www.geocities.com/idleberry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Wed Feb 2 12:21:32 2000 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 12:21:32 GMT Subject: Sinister: pure B&S content shocker! Message-ID: <20000202122133.4716.qmail@hotmail.com> hey crazy kids (and older more statley listees) it's time for Paul's NME update! here we go: B&S are busy putting the finishing touches to their forthcoming album a spokeswoman has told NME. She confirmed B&S had one more week in the studio. No title decided upon. Out in late spring/early summer... NME can also confirm that contrary to rumours on the band's website, Stuart D. has not left the band but is finishing off the Looper album "Geometrid". The spokeswoman also revealed that B&S members were likely to feature on it..... Many members of the band will feature on the new Gentle Waves album out near summer... that's about it folks (accompanied by very old B&S photo of Bel looking nonplussed) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Wed Feb 2 12:46:24 2000 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:46:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: hi honey I'm home Message-ID: "It's me again yes how did you guess 'cos last time you were really impressed" Oh I do love to start a post with a betty boo lyric, sorry to all the people that it scared. well I'm back at uni now and so back in sinisterland and as I can almost hear you asking "what's owen been up to since he was last here?" I thought I'd tell you. Errmmm drinking mainly, oh dear. Though I was drunk enough on thursday to go up to a guy in a study at stow shirt and talk to him without getting all shy and feeling like a total prat, he said he was thinking of joining the list so if any strange folk from newcastle turn up here then I'm affraid I'm to blame. saw the video for dog on wheels on MTV last night, it's quite good really. Also had a dream where I had to fight my way out of a warehouse using a grenade launcher, I'm going to have to stop watching old episodes of the A-team on video (except for the one with boy george as the guest star...I couldn't stop watching that). going now but I'll leave you with a quote, don't know who said it but I like it. "Music was my first love and it'll be my last music of the future and music of the past." love and hugs owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Wed Feb 2 15:59:11 2000 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:59:11 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Croissant Neuf Message-ID: <200002021558.PAA17202@missprint.org> Sir Here is a data-posy we garnered recently from the information bicycle lane: "Shane Meadows, Nottingham's answer to Jean Renoir, is apparently making a half-hour television programme called "The Stars of Track and Field", based on the well-known song of the same name." We haven't been so excited since we saw "Slade in Flame". While we are talking cinema, may we join Nick Dastoor in recommending Michael Winterbottom's "Wonderland"? The finest film we have seen in many years, and one of the few occasions a Michael Nyman score has seemed like a good idea. (The other is "Drowning by Numbers") In fact, we stayed right to the end of the credits, caught in that artistic equivalent of jet-lag when you don't want the spell to fade, and noticed the curious dedication: "thanks to Stuart Murdoch". Hmmmm. Why does nobody talk about the Montgolfier Brothers on this list? Their cd on Vespertine Records is simply splendid. Indeed, they've got Alan Magoo so excited he called them "the new Felt" whilst trying to talk up his P!O!P!tones venture. This morning a new anthology arrived with a thump on our desk. Within it are a selection of aphorisms by the Scottish poet Don Paterson. For some reason, this reminded me of Sinister: "There are men and women who, upon every occasion one meets them, talk so seamlessly of themselves one wonders how they managed to listen long enough to have acquired the power of speech in the first place." That is all. ST +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boucherphilip at xxx.com Wed Feb 2 16:04:26 2000 From: boucherphilip at xxx.com (The Vicar) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 16:04:26 GMT Subject: Sinister: Oh My Goodness Message-ID: <20000202160426.87966.qmail@hotmail.com> deary me, Once again i am wrong. Why do i think such crazy things, I knew full well it was on the 4th at the star and garter, i must have been mistaken as to what date it was last friday. Today is the first in over 1000 years when the date and year was made up of all even numbers, the last was 28/8/1888. Just though i'd tell you all. So i should be seeing you in the S+G this friday, i still need to find someone to come with me out of my nirvana loving friends. Today also i heared the first song emerge from the recording, it sounded ok, the people at school liked it anyway. I have to go to re-install Word to do my coursework on, and i suppose ill have to find my printer CD to re-install that too. My sister found someone at Uni with loads of bootleg B+S records, and that looper one, so I will be posting her some cassettes tonight. That bootleg from Paris costs �20 in my record shop. Vic. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boucherphilip at xxx.com Wed Feb 2 16:04:56 2000 From: boucherphilip at xxx.com (The Vicar) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 16:04:56 GMT Subject: Sinister: Oh My Goodness Message-ID: <20000202160456.3912.qmail@hotmail.com> deary me, Once again i am wrong. Why do i think such crazy things, I knew full well it was on the 4th at the star and garter, i must have been mistaken as to what date it was last friday. Today is the first in over 1000 years when the date and year was made up of all even numbers, the last was 28/8/1888. Just though i'd tell you all. So i should be seeing you in the S+G this friday, i still need to find someone to come with me out of my nirvana loving friends. Today also i heared the first song emerge from the recording, it sounded ok, the people at school liked it anyway. I have to go to re-install Word to do my coursework on, and i suppose ill have to find my printer CD to re-install that too. My sister found someone at Uni with loads of bootleg B+S records, and that looper one, so I will be posting her some cassettes tonight. That bootleg from Paris costs �20 in my record shop. Vic. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GOLDSTEINPC at xxx.uk Wed Feb 2 16:52:49 2000 From: GOLDSTEINPC at xxx.uk (Goldstein Paul) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 16:52:49 GMT Subject: Sinister: Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 16:50:03 -0000 Message-ID: the killing is as soggy as your last life-fag always consider the butts. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachel at xxx.uk Wed Feb 2 15:39:35 2000 From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:39:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: must. think. of. a. subject. ...okay, give up Message-ID: <001201bf6d93$d1213de0$4b58883e@preinstalledco> jen's firestarting experience got me reliving my unbelievable bad luck with anything flammable. i mean, to set fire to everything once is tragic, but unlucky. twice, you're getting careless, but THREE times!! well, it gets you an unshakable reputation as a pyromaniac, and people *ironically* running for cover whenever you light a fag. the first time genuinely wasn't my fault...well not really. i'd had this bitchy slapping fight with this girl, which obviously i won, sort of. i then made the mistake of gloating (well she's a mingin' cow, what can you do?) and, umm, she retaliated by setting fire to my hair! we put it out fairly rapidly, in fact she helped, i don't *think* she meant the curls to actually light, but it was shit scary. it was so unreal, seeing out of the corner of your eye this flame working it's way up.... the second time was a couple of months after i first quit smoking, and in a desperate bid to avoid thinking about nicotine, i was clearing out my room. we're talking piles of magazines, old coursework, lots of paper basically...and paper burns. fast. i found an old lighter, and me being me, starts setting fire to stuff. not big fires mind, i just like watching scraps of maths coursework burn. and then i couldn't put it out. i freaked like fuck, i was holding an exploration into pythagorean triples in a hand that was being scorched. i panicked completely and dropped it, into a bin liner full of...paper. the whole thing was going up, smoke everywhere, toxic fumes from the melting bin liner, and i couldn't get to the door. i was the only person in the house, otherwise i'd have probably just carried on screaming till someone got me out. as it was, i can honestly say that in times of utter desperation, you are a lot braver than you think. i put it out with a pair of jeans and my dm's. by the time it was out i was exhausted and in such a state, it was awful. i got into such shit and all, the house stank like a bonfire for a good few days afterwards. third time wasn't too long ago, one of my many culinary disasters not merely being inedible, but in fact burning half the kitchen...who'd have thought tea cosies hanging over hobs could be that dangerous?? luckily, i managed to dump all burning items into the sink this time. caused a lot of smoke, but not too much scorching. so, who's coming out for a fag with me then....?! the lovely honey, while slagging the new primals album (don't listen to him, it's fantastic!) said this: >Someone mentioned people whose favourite >childrens' television programme was only on in their region, to which >I can only say "Gus Honeybun". And "Adrian Evans". And "Tim Hopkins". ahh, gus honeybun. he must vomit with envy everytime fern britten's on the telly. which is so often, he can't have time to eat. she just managed that step up to national tv so much better than dear old gus. i've almost converted someone to b&s!! mind you, this someone has just paid real money (as opposed to monopoly money) to see slipknot, so i'm not sure if her comments of 'they're not as bad as i thought...ooh that's quite cute actually' about 'the state i am in' should be taken as a compliment or not...and this coming from someone who's fave band is take that...pot. kettle. black? never! lovin' and leavin' you all rachel xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk Wed Feb 2 23:13:06 2000 From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (sweetie) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:13:06 -0000 Subject: Sinister: i dont know Message-ID: <012401bf6dd3$b651bb80$6b21883e@anne666theasylum> sinister shit im losing it. from the first moment of waking up and when the first cup of coffee tasted like washing up ok i prob got that all wrong but i am im so scared first, for the first time ever i lost it and really screamed at someone-in class. for a very petty reason. i was tld to go for a walk till id calmed down. i didnt go back till the end. even tho id calmed down- i couldnt face them. and then today :*( i dont get on with one of my sisters, at all shes a year and half younger and is very mean to me she always calls me a freak and is generally very horrible and today i lost it with her but i didnt just scream at her i took evry reasonable appraoch i could think of but it didnt work i went for her i grabbed her hair and dragged her onto the floor (bearing in mind shes about 2" taller and alot bigger and stronger) i stood over her back and held her down she was screaming and screaming she got me off and i got her into like a headlock then i left and she was crying and upset she phoned my dad and he came and took her away and i was shaking and crying and scared i feel so stressed and so scared help me i am so scared what have i done lost, sweetie x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dchard at xxx.ca Thu Feb 3 02:32:25 2000 From: dchard at xxx.ca (ipecac spice) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:32:25 -0400 (AST) Subject: Sinister: freaks and geeks Message-ID: hello people. i too am still having weird dreams. last nights was the sort of scary dream that you wake up from expecting to see some dark shadowy creature looming over you. as long as dreams don't come true (and from my experience they don't) i should be ok. poor sweetie. i think we all snap sometimes. maybe meditation would be good. i hear it can work wonders. of course i am too lazy and too busy to try it myself. today i saw my boss start to cry. it was not fun. i wanted to give her a hug but i don't think you can really hug your boss. i watched the tv show freaks and geeks the other night. it was really good. it makes me wish i could redo childhood though (except for the fact that i was miserable until 15 or so). i can remember going to school with geeks just like the ones on the show and was i ever nice to them?...no. somehow i was one of the cool kids. i think it was b/c i was friends with the girls on my street and they were cool so it was by assoc. yet i was a scrawny painfully shy disagreeable little brat so without them i would have been lost. i just read everyones posts. somehow i felt that i had something interesting to say but i guess i was mistaken. to all the boys who are confused about what girls want the answer is sincere adoration. now if your letting her know that she is the ultimate woman does not work then she obviously does not reciprocate your feelings. then it's time to move on until you find someone who thinks you are the ultimate man in return. i am thinking of actually placing a list crush. i have been biding my time. reading the posts. i notice that it is very hard to convey irony over e-mail. i take everything everyone says literally. even when i shouldn't. ok. i'm going. -di "i respect those who have faith even though they are ignorant" -hemingway +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From margarita at xxx.com Thu Feb 3 04:14:15 2000 From: margarita at xxx.com (triumphant loser) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:14:15 -0600 Subject: Sinister: i dont know References: <012401bf6dd3$b651bb80$6b21883e@anne666theasylum> Message-ID: <000901bf6dfd$227f8840$328ffacf@oemcomputer> Sounds like you hit the bottom ----- Original Message ----- From: sweetie To: sinister Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 5:13 PM Subject: Sinister: i dont know > sinister > > shit > im losing it. > from the first moment of waking up and when the first cup of coffee tasted > like washing up > > ok i prob got that all wrong > but i am > > im so scared > > first, for the first time ever i lost it and really screamed at someone-in > class. for a very petty reason. > i was tld to go for a walk till id calmed down. > i didnt go back till the end. even tho id calmed down- i couldnt face them. > > and then today > :*( > i dont get on with one of my sisters, at all > shes a year and half younger > and is very mean to me > she always calls me a freak and is generally very horrible > > and today i lost it with her > but i didnt just scream at her > i took evry reasonable appraoch i could think of but it didnt work > i went for her > i grabbed her hair and dragged her onto the floor > (bearing in mind shes about 2" taller and alot bigger and stronger) > i stood over her back and held her down > she was screaming and screaming > she got me off and i got her into like a headlock > then i left > and she was crying and upset > she phoned my dad and he came and took her away > and i was shaking and crying and scared > > i feel so stressed and so scared > > help me i am so scared > what have i done > > lost, > sweetie > x > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SlowRobot at xxx.com Tue Feb 1 17:28:23 2000 From: SlowRobot at xxx.com (blair hicks) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 09:28:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: one of these things first Message-ID: <32970515.949426103436.JavaMail.imail@bubbles.excite.com> dearest list, gloomy, gloomy weather this week, especially for the lone star state. i've christened this "nick drake appreciation week", and have been ramming taped copies of "pink moon" and "bryter layter" down the throats of all my friends, who seem pleasantly surprised, if not somewhat frightened by my sudden outburst of generosity. it's been so nice recieving mail from several of you about my transformers mailing list. if i had my way, you'd all recieve a suitcase full of small, unmarked currency, to spend on whatever you pleased. so much love! i finally got around to purchasing a rachel's record this week, and found it to be amazing. truly beautiful stuff. sorry that i haven't had more to say, but my very good friend has just gottne engaged to an internet aquaintance that she's only known for a month, so i've had some things to deal with. you've been lovely for listening. bundle up and stay warm, kids. fondly, blair p.s. i've been trying to use the sinister chat room, but as i am a blair of very little brain, i've had quite a bit of difficulty. if anyone could e-mail me with some sage-like advice concerning all this chatting business, it would be very much appreciated. _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freeworld.excite.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SlowRobot at xxx.com Tue Feb 1 17:28:23 2000 From: SlowRobot at xxx.com (blair hicks) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 09:28:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: one of these things first Message-ID: <32970515.949426103436.JavaMail.imail@bubbles.excite.com> dearest list, gloomy, gloomy weather this week, especially for the lone star state. i've christened this "nick drake appreciation week", and have been ramming taped copies of "pink moon" and "bryter layter" down the throats of all my friends, who seem pleasantly surprised, if not somewhat frightened by my sudden outburst of generosity. it's been so nice recieving mail from several of you about my transformers mailing list. if i had my way, you'd all recieve a suitcase full of small, unmarked currency, to spend on whatever you pleased. so much love! i finally got around to purchasing a rachel's record this week, and found it to be amazing. truly beautiful stuff. sorry that i haven't had more to say, but my very good friend has just gottne engaged to an internet aquaintance that she's only known for a month, so i've had some things to deal with. you've been lovely for listening. bundle up and stay warm, kids. fondly, blair p.s. i've been trying to use the sinister chat room, but as i am a blair of very little brain, i've had quite a bit of difficulty. if anyone could e-mail me with some sage-like advice concerning all this chatting business, it would be very much appreciated. _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freeworld.excite.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MBP99KLC at xxx.uk Thu Feb 3 10:56:17 2000 From: MBP99KLC at xxx.uk (Katy) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:56:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Nobody writes them like they used to... Message-ID: <1E4EFA72E46@scammonden.shef.ac.uk> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1376 bytes Desc: not available URL: From erica.macarthur at xxx.com Thu Feb 3 11:31:15 2000 From: erica.macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:31:15 -0000 Subject: Sinister: A kiss may be grand, but it won't pay the rental Message-ID: <003d01bf6e3a$64ca47c0$cd62063e@default> Rude boys and girls, I havent written in a while, it's because I'm sulking around until people send me pictures for my Gallery. Sweetie promised me 50s shoes, but did they come? They did not! Oh! Fine. (hmph, hmph, etc) you know I would have thought our very own gay dirty Den Ian (where are you?) could have sent me his Saint Etienne T-shirt. There was girl offering to give her trousers away! You cheeky rascals! Are you trying to drive me to insanity? I went to see Lord of the Flies last night in Hammersmith. It was sort of like a TECHNO version, but the head boy was quite good-looking and took his top off a lot. Which was nice. Now I'm sure someone tried to start a thread about 'embarassing things you've seen but never told anyone'. Me and Hannah were walking home from dinner in town once and a man pulled his pants down right in front of a huge window, as in, arse facing outwards.....and the other day, my friend Kate went to the sixth form Ladies', and when she opened the door of her cubicle, a bum was poking out. We couldn't think why whoever's bum it was would be poking outwards and not on the toilet, so we decided she was probably checking out her business. Hannah's right. I *do* have terminal potty-mouth. Ally (who I love too) said: >What kind of school do you go to, Scarlet dear? Does this kind of thing >happen at schools around the country, or is it only Erica's twisted >place of learning? It's the new headmistresses' fault. I have proper teen angst against that woman because she cut the art budjet to aid a TALENT SHOW. The Talent shows at our school usually consist of two thirteen year old girls singing 'My Heart Will Go On' by Celine Dion over the top of a tape of the actual song, so you can't quite hear which voice is which and a Barbershop quartet of four prissy girls which sing Eric Clapton covers. Everyone cooes. No one ever cooes at the A level Art shows. Di said: >. to all the boys who are >confused about what girls want the answer is sincere adoration. now if >your letting her know that she is the ultimate woman does not work then >she obviously does not reciprocate your feelings. I don't know if that's quite true, really. I've always been of that disposition that if someone appears to sincerely adore me, there ethier must be something wrong with them, or they're lying. So I really don't advise our resident tweethings to go up to the girl they fancy and tell her she's the 'utlimate woman', because she'll probably burst into a fit of giggles. Why not BUY their love instead? No, really, I think resort to old cliches like being yourself works best. I'm going to ignore that rude quote Stevie put in, and instead say UP YOUR BUM, like the fantastic girl in Wish You Were Here which was on Channel 4 again the other night. Erica x The House of Scarlet - Vacancies http://www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Thu Feb 3 13:05:31 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:05:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: please read Message-ID: Chirpy chirpy cheep cheep, I've had a few private comments from people about mails to the list recently. Nothing nasty, as polite and gentle and tentative as anything, and entirely proper: I'm always looking for people to tell me if the list is how they want it to be and do a bit of gentle steering. I hope this is gentle :) The comments add up to a general consensus from a few, which is that the list is becoming just a little unwieldy to keep up with as a reader again. History teaches us that Sinister starts to roll downhill when not enough people can keep up, and start posting stuff without reading. I'd therefore crave your indulgence to please remember the following: * One or two-line emails aren't generally appreciated by people on the receiving end. Please put a bit of content and a bit of you into your emails. "A bit of you" doesn't necessarily mean a bodypart, but sometimes it excites primitive stirrings. * "Dear diary" emails, where someone is telling the list what they did today (sometimes every day :) ) get a bit much for a lot of people. Remember the list is a dialogue between you and the.. 1000 people you're talking to. Please don't post something you wouldn't happily read from 100 other people. Alright, 50. * We've had a few duplicate posts recently: I've checked back, nervous as I am to ascribe blame to someone that my software actually caused, but all these have been separately sent emails. Blame isn't being acribed to anyone actually, but could those using WWW mail interfaces like hotmail please be extra careful. These are nearly always the result of clicking the "Send" button twice when it's slow. * Please do try and be aware if you're posting very frequently, and pull back to give some others a chance. My biggest fear with the list is that it starts to appear as a clique, with a few people talking for a lot of others. I don't think it's ever quite got this way, but sometimes people are intimidated by a lot of posts from a few, and don't post themselves. Likewise please try and package up your replies into a single mail, rather than a lot of individual small ones. All this can be summed up with usual plea for people to think twice before they post to the list please and slow down just a bit now. I'm SO sorry to those who've heard this a million times before. But it's a very big list, and we need to all do our bit to keep it from fragmenting, as has happened so often on other lists. This is a fabulous and special place to be, and it's down to all of you. I'll do my usual job of begging no-one to take this personally. No matter how much I say this someone always mails me and says "oh god, you meant me, I feel so bad". Please remember that all I'm doing is reflecting what people say to me they like and don't like on the list, and you're welcome to mail me privately and tell me too - I just try and reflect the majority opinion. Oh and please don't hate me or I'll break down and cry, I'm a great cryer. Besides, my body has done it's usual trick of succumbing to a virus after a trip away and I'm stuck in bed with a brain full of glue feeling pretty awful: so I'm not thinking of anyone in particular because I'm not thinking of anything at all. And lots of people have sent me things like photos for the galleries: please (eek) bear with me as I have only a few compus mentus hours a day, and yesterday I spent them in the chatroom boring everyone to death with a rather solemn-faced rant. Sorry chatters :) I feel suitably embarrassed now, just like I said I would. Mail from me without my apron on and rolling pin out to follow. Just being mummy. Mummy x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.cullen at xxx.com Thu Feb 3 15:02:29 2000 From: p.cullen at xxx.com (Paula Cullen) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 15:02:29 -0000 Subject: Sinister: i'm married to the firm, oooh you gotta understand. Message-ID: <01BF6E57.B0DF5660.p.cullen@music-control.com> hola seno....senor......er..... kids, this post has two purposes: 1. to moan about the terrible weekend i had in london, and 2. to coax some dubliners into coming to a badly organised meetup on saturday. those of you who aren't convinced i can pull this off with any flair or finesse should turn away now. okay. well, what can i say about my travels to the big schmoke? friday was Fun. i went to the poetry cafe, marvelled at nick dastoordly's nickpants, and left. it was what happened after that that GOT ON MY TITS. my hosts for the weekend turned out to be techno-cokehead-freakchildren, so i spent the rest of the weekend at bangin' techno clubs and Dodgy Parties. i didn't even get a bit of Hot Boy Action to cheer me up. in fact, the closest thing i got to Hot Boy Action was a lesbian who seemed quite taken with my drunken ramblings. mind you, that guy serving behind the counter in the poetry cafe is a bit of alright, isn't he? i wouldn't kick him out of bed for eating crisps, like. if he is on this list i think i shall die now. ************************************************************************ **************** today i have been mostly listening to The Best Of Cece Peniston. it is the best record ever made* ************************************************************************ **************** as those of you unfortunate enough to live in dublin may already know, salako are playing in whelans this saturday night. some bloke from some band called ball and sebastian (?) will be djing afterwards too. for anyone who is interested, there will be one of those shambolic meet-up affairs in the Long Hall pub on Georges St at about 7.30pm before the gig. ************************************************************************ ***************** i got a list crush, you know. you see : cursing gets you EVERYWHERE. ************************************************************************ ***************** right, i think i've said enough. my fingers are tired from all that action. and dont get me started about the typing. (de dum, tish) *sigh* sometimes i think im depriving a village somewhere of an idiot. word to yo' mutha, paula booze x. *this argument *probably* wouldn't stand in a court of law. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From g.roberts1 at xxx.uk Thu Feb 3 12:07:48 2000 From: g.roberts1 at xxx.uk (Gav Roberts) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:07:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Watch out for the gypsy children in electric dresses they're insane... Message-ID: <200002031516.PAA28979@missprint.org> ...I hear they live in crematoriums and smoke your remains. Hmmm. OK, this is my first post, so sorry if it's drivel. Right, seeing as none of you know me, I thought i'd introduce myself by........having absolutely nothing to say. Damn. Ah well, I guess I'll just be dull and give you a breakdown of my "favourite things". Let's see, there's my guitar, on which I can't play most b&s songs 'cos they use bobbins chords which I don't know (anyone help?). Next there's football. Then music. Then drinking. That's my life. I'm a computing student, but that doesn't mean that I like Star trek and stay in all night programming. By the way, I've just got Tigermilk and can't stop playing it. Now I just need those darned expensive EP's. Anyway, I'll stop there because, let's face it, you all did ages ago... Gav. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GOLDSTEINPC at xxx.uk Thu Feb 3 15:23:12 2000 From: GOLDSTEINPC at xxx.uk (Goldstein Paul) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 15:23:12 GMT Subject: Sinister: Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 15:20:15 -0000 Message-ID: "What the country needs is dirtier fingernails and cleaner minds." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 50158120 at xxx.hk Thu Feb 3 16:27:14 2000 From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 00:27:14 +0800 Subject: Sinister: tee and to rachel. Message-ID: <949595234.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk> Girls and Boys, Day without B and S music..listen to moz again... i huv to re-write my script.... unless they, the school members won't allow me to do the shooting of my final year project. >> B n S/ B n S Tee >> I only ve Tigermilk,TBWTAS and TIJAMRS. >> I luv B n S so much >> Wanna get the Tee. It is a good tee for a good band. I think Blur's >> Tee >> is Bad Tee for a Good Band. Some Oasis Tee is Good Tee for a bad >> band. >I just need someone to explain this to me, if possible. Does it have >something to do with golf? Nothing to do with Golf? what makes u associate to golf? I mean B n S is a good band and their tee is good. then, Blur is a good band but their tee shirt suck. Oasis's Tee is nice but i dun like them. rachel: >so, who's coming out for a fag with me then....?! I do. I ve Davidoff Lights, Benson and Hedges Lights, YSL Methol Lights, Mild Seven Lights and Dunhill Lights now, But i live in Hong Kong. I am smoking to death recently coz i always dwell in cafe with mate now.... wanna quit. Toby +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Thu Feb 3 16:50:18 2000 From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE HENRY DICKIE) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 16:50:18 GMT Subject: Sinister: BOXING BABIES (WHAT WILL THEY THINK OF NEXT) Message-ID: <20000203165018.24202.qmail@hotmail.com> DA BOMB LOVELY HI LIST MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM AT XMAS I SAW THE TRIAL ON TV I U KNOW THE BOOK THAT IS ON THE FRONT W OF A IF N YOUR T FEELING SINISTER B L ANYWAY O IT WAS O VERY ODD D STRANGE ETC I LOVED IT IT HAD PSYCHO IN IT WELL THE GUY WHO PLAYS HIM U KNOW HE WAS GREAT PSYCHO 2 IS MY FAV I LIKE THE IDEA OF PSYCHO TALKING TO HIS DEAD MOTHER AND USING HIS OWN VOICE TO TALK BACK I DO THIS WITH BABIES I LOVE TO TALK TO BABIES I FEEL THEY CAN TELL ME A LOT I DON'T TALK TO BABIES MUCH I DON'T HANG IN THE SAME CIRCLES AS THEM BUT WHEN I GET THE CHANCE I LIKE A CHAT MMMMMMMMMM YER I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A BABY MMMMM I SUPPOSE THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ALL HERE 4 THAT AND B&S OF COURSE ANYWAY I WAS TELLING THIS ONE BABY GIRL I MET THAT I'M GOING TO BE GOING TO SEE CINERAMA AT THE GARAGE (LONDON) THURSDAY FEB 24TH I SAID TO HER I NEED SOME GEDGE ACTION SHE SAID MMM I WISH I COULD COME I SAID I WISH U COULD 2 I HAVE NOBODY TO GO WITH I BEGAN TO CRY SO DID THE BABY GIRL WE SHARED A DUMMY AND SAID OUR GOOBYES ****I FEEL STUPID AND STUPID FEELS ME THIS IS HOW IT'LL BE FOR ETERNITY**** LOVE AND POST BUTTERFLY ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From windisch24 at xxx.com Thu Feb 3 19:08:37 2000 From: windisch24 at xxx.com (mike windisch) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 11:08:37 PST Subject: Sinister: "it's the feel, you fool" Message-ID: <20000203190837.35769.qmail@hotmail.com> hey sinister, list abuse and shout outs up top. pedantic windisch speil below. bail out now if you're not ready to sink with the ship. << Message-ID: <004001bf6e7f$191a01e0$5733883e@gsh> Rah! BRIEFLY... Nick Dastardly (have you heard that one before, btw?) said: >In my experience there is always one flatmate who doesn't fit in with the >others. They become a the whipping boy/girl. It's healthy, except when you're >the outcast, which happened to me once. This rule applies no matter how small >the household is. If you live on your own, you will end up blaming yourself for >things you didn't do. You will also talk about yourself behind your back and >develop a crick in your neck. I've already planned a solution to this problem. When i go to Nottingham Uni, i'm taking two friends from school with me (also doing degrees). Then, after the second year, we all move in together and, if needs be, i've got two friends going to Loughborough Uni so they can move in too. That way we SHOULD get on ok. Unless we get so sick of being near each other every day for NINE years that we resort to a ********-like state and you know what happens then.... IN OTHER NEWS... Hey Starry, Fi-Lo Radio are releasing things thru Action Records (a record LABEL sub-div bit) AND i saw one of them in a very good indie shop in Nottingham yesterday. I was so tempted to buy it but i thought you might shout at me for encouraging them :) AND FINALLY.... I dont want to hear the new B+S album at all now. I'm very happy listening to the last three constantly. I think they should divide the next album up into 3 EPs. That'd make me miles happier. OBSESSION IS GOOD FOR YOU. Here's where the story ends.... Chris_t_opher - King of Late Night Movies +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Fri Feb 4 00:57:51 2000 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 00:57:51 BST Subject: Sinister: ooh stick you* Message-ID: <9B39AD00A33@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> awight kidz i had to tell someone who will understand and wasn't there, i was in a club last night and heard add n to x and the pixies back to back. this isn't something which happens to me very often, so i felt it worthy of note. i realise how unlikely this is, but any of you who are in europe and in possesion of digital tv and want to see more b+s and other good videos can go to http://www.m2europe.com and choose an hour of videos which they will then show on the telly and they'll put your name in the corner of the screen to show that you chose it and everything! i don't have digital tv, so i'm not trying to show how technologically advanced i am - look i can email! - but was forced to choose an hour on pain of a spiked enema (not really, but i thought i'd continue the theme) by my bestest friend. when we compared what we'd chosen, the ones we had in common were sugarcube by yo la tengo and kewpies like watermelon by uresei yatsura. i mention this to show everyone what fine company i keep and so i can go look i do have friends really, honestly. sure i had something else to say...... i watched labyrinth (couldn't think how to spell that then) on video today - mmmm david bowie! urgh bad hair, but nevertheless fabulous eye make-up. i always notice the most important things in films. ooh, also, i talked to my flatmates this evening. i think it was possibly because we were united in ridiculing a programme on which men talked about their penises, but whatever brings people together... well, i think thats enuff for today, taxi for fiona *your momma too and your daddy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Fri Feb 4 03:47:26 2000 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 22:47:26 EST Subject: Sinister: 13 Point Plan to Destroy America Message-ID: <2b.16a64e1.25cba5ce@aol.com> Howdy folks, I don't know if it's the winter making everyone a tad wistful and melancholy or if Zoloft is putting its plan for world domination into effect by decreasing the amount of dopimine in everyone's brain, but the list has been a bit (ok, alot) drab, dull and repetitive over the past couple of months. I thought it was just me, but I talked to a few long-time and ex-Sinistereens and they noticed it to: the list has really changed recently. I remember when I first signed on about a year ago when it was alot of charismatic folk talking about interesting things and new bands, and it was a helluva lot more drunken and debaucherous than it is now. Between Nick Dasto(o)r, Genevieve, Trousers Paula Cullen, Blake, etc., you never knew what you were going to read each day when you opened your mail. I can honestly remember opening all 30 mails I would recieve a day and not skimming or deleting one until it was read; now I don't have the time or interest to read more than a scant handful. Now it seems the list is bent on the mundane and most especially the "twee" as it were. You can almost categorize the postings into three groups: a) "the things I did today that are fairly commonplace" (include token B&S moment), b) "the girl/guy who broke my heart and I have to see them everyday/every now and again and it makes things awkward," which should probably fit under "a" but sheer volume demands its on category, and c) "I'm new to the list please love me," which in my opinion is the only one excusable; (it goes without saying that George Dickie is in a category of his own, I beg you to contine posting!). What happened? The old guard is nowhere to be seen except on rare occasions and I swear its almost like one person a day jaunts from the nursery. Its almost enough to make your head spin trying to keep up with the changing face of Sinister. I think Honey did the right thing by reminding everyone to only post when you have something worthwhile or downright barn-burning to say, and I just wanted to emphasize that not only is the list admin sick of reading 30 identical emails a day but pretty much everyone on the list is fed up as well. I know more than a handful of people who have unsubbed because of it or are planning to very soon, and many of them were people who gave the list its mischevious character way back when. I guess I just miss the old rabble-rousing, drunken, fun-loving, irreverent Sinister that thumbed its nose at everything the public thought we were and just really enjoyed everyone else's company and opinions. The new list is tame and sappy to be blunt. With the influx of so many new faces I think we can really have an interesting and insightful list that can be your best friend and a source of wit and hilarity. It's got a great foundation and a loving Mummy, and if we can all learn how to make the list its best I think we'll all be much, much more satisfied. Off the soapbox... Steve C. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Which Paul?" "BLAH!" visit http://callowkids.tripod.com or your crush will hate you forever +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Fri Feb 4 11:23:14 2000 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:23:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: P!O!P! GoEs A!R!T! Message-ID: <20000204112314.10301.qmail@web3003.mail.yahoo.com> the magnetic fields.... a B O O K by André Breton and Philippe Soupault... you know the surealists.... I'm not sure about the spelling of Ph. Soupault's name, please feel free to correct me if i'm wrong... But I'm not so keen on the surealists... I prefer the Lettrists and the D A D A I Michele Bernstein once said: S T S... "we all have 2 fathers... the father we love and the father we hate... Surealism is the father we hate and Dada is the father we love..." Trying to define the origins and influences of the art movements after surealism... there aren't any significant Art movements anymore... Why? cause art's been always connected to the social situation... now, that S P E C T has covered with its black wings every aspect of A every day life.... C art itself has become a spectacle... L easy to consume.... E digestable... you'll see no bright brains anymore... cause bright brains are not digestable... i'm not saying that there are not any bright brains anymore... there are... it's just that we won't see them taking the place they deserve... and as the Situationists were saying: Culture is the commodity that sells all the others... i feel so frightened in this world sometimes... sometimes I feel I don't own my life... cause is it really my life or is it just a representation of my life? Do I make my own decisions... or they're decisions made by mere necessity? S U I C A friend once told me... "I have no reason to I live.... D but will we have E MUSIC up or down there?..." Thank God for music Damn the music... Music is our curse and blessing altogether... I'll go now... take care all of you... this list is a great comfort... a world of its own... love XXOOXX V.F. PS: B&S context? only indirectly... :)) ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.alder at xxx.uk Fri Feb 4 11:46:38 2000 From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:46:38 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Psycho-killer, qu'est-ce que c'est? Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F3352DAF@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk> Some things wot people said... Fiona: >>i watched labyrinth (couldn't think how to spell that then) on video today - mmmm david bowie! urgh bad hair, but nevertheless fabulous eye make-up. i always notice the most important things in films. Important things? What, like the bulge in Davey-boy's tights? Yes, I noticed that one too. Yum and, indeed, yum. Erica said >>UP YOUR BUM which places an awful burden on the Enforcer. I want to know if Toby Chan talks it like he writes it. Wouldn't that be lovely? Sweetie had a row with her sister, so I feel particular empathy with her. I once told my sister that there were sand spiders living in the bath which were invisible due to their being the same colour as the bath (sandy yellow), so she mustn't get into the bath unless the plug was in the hole, thus avoiding attack. After finding out The Truth, the DKNY trainer girl (for it is she) was out for revenge, largely through winding me up and winding me up and knowing exactly which buttons to push to make me reeeeeeeallly mad, as sisters know best how to do. The whole sorry business came to an exciting climax the first time Mum and Dad went on holiday without us. I forget what the argument was about - I expect it was about how long to microwave peas for, or something equally petty - but I got so furious I grabbed the bread knife in an attempt to frighten her. Now, you understand, I would never harm a hair on the darling girl's head, but I needed to prove that I was OLDER and BIGGER and STRONGER and she SHOULD NOT MESS WITH ME. Mess with me she most certainly did not - she ran up the stairs three at a time, phoned Nanna and then locked herself in the bathroom. I then had to explain to the dear old lady who, even today, will not let me use a pair of scissors unless they have round ends and are made of plastic, exactly what I was doing clutching Betterware's finest, sharpest knife (use with antique pine-effect bread-holder for the straightest of slices) in a vaguely threatening manner in the presence of darling sister, in whose mouth butter wouldn't melt. I managed to persuade her that it was all a terrible exaggeration and that Mum and Dad really didn't need to find out, but it took a lot of effort and taught me a big lesson. Which was? Violence solves nothing, kids! Make peace, not war! DKNY trainer girl and I are bessie mates now, natch, as Sweetie and her sister will be in years to come. Hark the voice of age and experience (ahem). And finally...Lovely to see everyone who was in Lunding at the wekend. I vote for Boggle as the game of kings and Chrys Lynyrd as their minstrel. Are you lookin' at me? Grrr! Juicy Lucy =================================================== This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. -- MCI WorldCom Year 2000 information http://www.wcom.co.uk/2000 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Fri Feb 4 12:56:54 2000 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 12:56:54 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: The Talented Mr. Wakeman Message-ID: <20000204125654.7749.qmail@web1705.mail.yahoo.com> Good day friends, Fiona mentioned a song called "Ooh! Stick You", by Daphne and Celeste! How happy am I? That song is the best Pop Song of this millenium I'm telling youse guys. Its perfectly obnoxious, insulting and parfait - I bet Johnny Rotten The Punkster likes it, and gobs along in tune. Wahoo! When I was drunk and sitting in the middle of Trafalgar Sq fountain, my friend and I shouted "OOH STICK YOU", at anyone who looked vaguely twattish, and then fell about in giggles. We of course looked PERFECTLY sensible and dignified. So, that is the best Pop of THIS millenium. So what about the Pop of last millenium? There's only one contender. I'm handing in the speed spiked soul bowling shoes, returning the scratched CD of futurepop, cashing in a refund on the Vengabus - the best pop of last millenium defintely belonged to YES. *wibble into a rose tinted past where everyone wore capes*..... The Story of Yes. Once upon a time, there was a guy called Rick Wakeman. He was a FUCKING COOL BASTARD, and everyone knew it. He had a big bushy beard and a wizards hat, and shitloads of keyboards and organs. He pronounced the word "Moog" as "Moag" (as it should be said), and was a GRATE laff. Everyone thought he was brill and invited him down the pub loads. But Rick was sad. He didn't know what direction of Rock to follow. After his Rapping in German Phase, epitomised in the album "Rumble in Der Old Skool Disko"*, Rick just didn't know what to do. Then he made an album called CLOSE TO THE EDGE with John Martyn and all the other people in YES whoever they are, and its TOP BANANA. I bet ALL the cool people like CLOSE TO THE EDGE, by YES. I do, for one, and so does Lixi who taped it for me, and I bet like, even TONY BLAIR the Best Prime Minister Ever of the New Labour Party of Fun and Frolics likes it too, and has a public/private ownership sharehold of it, in 11 Downing Street. Mad Dog Murdoch likes it too. He's cool, isn't he! You know what? I don't own any AC/DC albums. I wonder if I should rectify this. I bought an Orange Juice album and its got a remastered rejigged version of "Felicity" on it, which isn't as good as the version TimTeeTum taped me. Anyway. I will maintain the greatness of this album until Popular Beat Music of Y2K produces me something better than the SHIT BUNGED UP PUBLIC SCHOOLBOY TOSS of The Clientele. I mean...come ON guys, do I have to do it myself? You don't want me to do it myself, I can't sing and I tend to play guitars with plastic fishes. Although, if anyone has a second hand Casio they want to give to me, I'm sure I could do a good Stephin Merrit. Ha. Probably more John Shuttleworth. Now THERE would be a duet. Joe - I know of "Avril en Mai", but I can't think of any Februarys. And theres a March Records...and I'm currently humming a song about January but I'm buggered if I know what it is. Lucy - please talk more about bread knives. GEORGE HENRY DUCKIE - I noticed you saying you wanted blood. Well isn't that what runs in your veins? Just get in a punch up with a BRUISER about Morrisey or something, and then you'll be fine. I'm going to go to Cinerama too, you know. Enough! Sarah xo * Which actually DOES exist on a compilation I have called 'Plattenmeister', tapes on request... ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Fri Feb 4 14:19:36 2000 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (Owen Lowery) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 14:19:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: in the shadowplay acting out your own death knowing no more Message-ID: <389ADFF8.32A99950@students.stir.ac.uk> yippie ki-aye you mother fuckers somebody complained about there not being enough life on this list anymore, well let the narrow wizard use his magic staff (fnar fnar) to add a bit of spunk to the list. what follows is an account of my last two days, it should contain enough sex, drunkenness, stupidity and B&S references to keep you happy for a while. I guess it all started in the William Wallace on wednesday, I was with sexy ex pro tennis player Kathryn and gay boy Gregor and we were drinking pints of lager at a whole 1 pound a pint. As happens in these situations we started talking about sex, Gregor scared us with tales of 4 guys in a wood on the uni campus (he's a randy devil), Kathryn scared us with the amount of positions she's managed in one night (the demonstrations nearly got us thrown out of the pub), and I don't think those two are gonna let me live down the story of carpet burns, horse whips and egg whisks (just don't ask). We carried on drinking back at Kathryn's place and soon were so drunk that I had an argument with her and went home to bed. I was woken up half an hour later by Kathryn knocking on my window and so I let her in and popped to the toilet 'cos if we were gonna argue again the last thing I'd need would be asking for a time out to go to the bog. Once I'd visited the oval office though I found that she'd climbed into my bed so I stuck tigermilk on the sound system and got on with enjoying myself (and enjoying her of course). next day I was tired due to only getting 2 hours sleep and had a stinking headache so I went to my friend Hannah's place for some sympathy, her new flat mate was leaving just as I got there and she decided to feel my cock and tell me that she'd see me round sometime as she was going. So anyway I sat and talked to Hannah for a bit before she decided to cook for me, I was rather surprised to get rainbow trout with stuffed peppers and so after the meal I stuck around to (how can I put this) thank Hannah properly. Somewhat bewildered and tired I was in no state to refuse the offer of a night out with a couple of my mates that night (this was yesterday if you're not keeping up) and so we went to our favourite local club, we got there just before 11 'cos the drinks are cheaper then and ordered 6 drinks each. The girls at the next table had a similar cheap drink plan and this seemed as good a reason as any to start talking to them. Things are a bit hazy in my memory after this point but apparently I was seen snogging 3 different girls though I can only remember 2 and think that the third sighting was mistaken. Next we gatecrashed a party on campus which was being thrown for people on some silly management course, all the drink was free so we got even more drunk before the lads I was with stole a bottle of whisky and 2 bottles of wine and went home. I vaguely remember talking to one of my exes at the party and think I might have went with her for a bit but I'm not sure and I think I may have danced to get me away from here I'm dying but again I'm not sure. anyway I got up this morning and read a mail claiming that this stuff doesn't go on enough in the sinister realm so I thought I would prove otherwise. Oh and I just remembered some girl telling me that I looked like Hugh Grant at the party. This is starting to worry me 'cos she's not the first to say this and it's just not true. I wouldn't mind if I did look like him but I don't and the bastard is taking over my life. I think my stomach has now settled enough to actually keep food down now so I'm gonna go now. I'm worried about tonight though, the wine and whisky will be made to disappear by a certain wizard. bye for now owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a strong smell of alcohol. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleeka_sounds at xxx.com Fri Feb 4 15:20:08 2000 From: sleeka_sounds at xxx.com (Sleeka Sounds) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 07:20:08 PST Subject: Sinister: He rooted it oot! Message-ID: <20000204152008.37821.qmail@hotmail.com> alright, had a few pints at lunchtime and can't be arsed working. so hello to all the folks who were at the poof caff last friday, sorry the first few were really shite I'd have done them again but you looked a bit bored. And I didn't know Evan Dando had already baggsied Pancho and Lefty. BUT I feel big thanks to trousers and sarah and hopkins for letting me and julia in your house. And hello to the Juicy Lucy, and sorry to carsmile for not chatting, cos I'd have liked to but i didn't know it was you. And kisses to everyone else, if you want more get in touch. Not as good as last time I know, but it will all come together eventually, I can feel it. You should all come to Scotland for the crack. And the craic too. And big hugs and kisses to the ones who made a journey down to London for it. Drill me. But I've been drinking beer, and beer is good for you. It makes you clever, and it doesn't give you a beer belly like what I've got, that's the kebabs and cheese and chips and the other shite you crave when you're steaming. Folk have been drunk since Jesus. Jesus was a fucking laugh when he had a few, he was always making up nonsense and saying it was a beatitude or something. Jesus is fucking great for a laugh. Crumbs, is he still on the list? The good thing is, I'm allowed to listen to cd's at work now through my headphones. I've been listening to this Jane Birkin cd, it was dirt cheap and it's got a saucy photo on the cover. When I say saucy I mean it's a close up of her head, years ago, which does the job for me. It's the gap! Mind you, she's still alright, she was pretty in that Cinderella film, despite being about a million years old, like Stephen Pastel. Only woman. Nice willy! Have you lot seen the labia_1 picture on the body parts page! Bloody hell! Literally! Chris ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com Fri Feb 4 15:54:12 2000 From: Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com (Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:54:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sapphire bullets of pure love Message-ID: <8025687B.00562EBD.00@gbemea05.emea.jwt.com> My own dear children, gather round. MAD I was thrilled to see such warmth of feeling, by Sarah amongst others, for neglected p*o*p sensations Daphne and Celeste. My mad colleague from work appeared in the video, don't you know. He can be seen at the end spinning briefly on his head. Not many people can do that, so he was specially hired. Can anyone else perform unique b-boy moves? I presumed that I could do the Vanilla Ice one where he grabs his left foot with his right hand and jumps through the loop thus formed. but I couldn't. Ol' Icey makes the most difficult of dance moves look like a piece of choreographic cake. FREAKISH Another friend here, who is one of three eversoslightly freakish but beautiful triplets, was also filmed for the D&C vid. All three of them, however, ended up on the cutting room floor, in what no doubt resembled a bizarre celluloid all-in lesbian incest wrestling romp. In my mind. CRAZY There have been some bad tidings in the magical world of Sinister of late. I blame this gloomy February weather. Unless you're a Southern Hemisphere Sinisterine, in which case I blame that scorching summer sun. Drives you crazy, that old sun. PSYCHO I'm going to add to the furore by saying how *much* I've enjoyed reading some posts of late. I challenge anyone to relate an anecdote as alarming as Juicy Luicy's. Alisdair, you're hard, you must have some tales to tell. The image of Luicy wielding a bread-knife, psycho-style, is beautifully haunting, and will be hard to beat. NUTS I for one was delighted to see that Charles Schultz has stopped drawing Peanuts. I'll be glad to see the back of 'em, annoying little buggers. OK, the TV show spawned "Seeing Other People", but those round faced freaks were the only reason I didn't buy the Daily Mail. Oh, that and not being an outrageous Tory bigot. Goodness me, that was an inconsequential post. How are you all? Glad to hear it, me too. J. D. Salinger --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "you take a really sleepy man, Esmé, and he always stands a chance of again becoming a man with all his fac - with all his f-a-c-u-l-t-i-e-s intact" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Fri Feb 4 23:11:37 2000 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 18:11:37 EST Subject: Sinister: The Kingdom of Heaven Must Be Taken By Storm Message-ID: <7b.12ea1cd.25ccb6a9@aol.com> Let me state for the record that I sincerely wish I hadn't send that long, angry missive to Sinister last night. I'm quite upset that several folk who I'm good friends with on the list took my words personal and now are a bit cooled on posting to the list. I didn't intend to make anyone self-conscious of their "cool factor" but it looks like thats all I achieved, and thats regretful. Believe me when I tell you that I didn't have any particular person or persons in mind when I wrote that, and I didn't mean to scare away any newbies by any means. Its a case of my frustration getting the better of me and I suppose the better course of action would have been to send the email to Honey alone, or just live with a very active delete key until the list righted itself naturally. Either way, its probably alot less intrusive and offensive than what I chose to do and I apologize for any hurt feelings and venom. I hope I got it right that time... Steve C. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Which Paul?" "BLAH!" visit http://callowkids.tripod.com or your crush will hate you forever +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.borgia at xxx.ca Sat Feb 5 03:37:32 2000 From: alexander.borgia at xxx.ca (Alexander Borgia) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 22:37:32 -0500 Subject: Sinister: To all good things. Message-ID: <389B9AFB.57C0CD74@sympatico.ca> It is with sad regret that this will be my last post to the Sinister list. After reading "13 Point Plan to Destroy America" from Steve C. I got really bothered. I do not think this feeling will go away soon so I have decided to unsubsribe to the list as I do not feel I would make a positive contribution right now. Perhaps I may return when I am no longer bothered. I am glad for the time that I have been participating with the list and for the new friends I have made. I hope to continue these friendships. I have nothing but the highest praise for Miss Honey and that will never change. I have written to Steve and explained my reasons, and that it was nothing to do with him. I feel we understand each other and we are continuing our correspondence. Sincerely, Alexander +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sat Feb 5 12:30:07 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 13:30:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Penguin Book of Massive Knockers Message-ID: <01bf6fd4$bcea8820$LocalHost@itjfvkli> I think some of you need to have your flies lowered and your tongue bitten to calm you down a bit. Form an ordererly queue. Speaking of which, I have trouble wearing my bus t-shirt since that Dirk Diggler shot appeared on the body fascism page. Speaking of which, ha ha, Paul got the blame for slagging off Primal Scream! It wasn't Paul, it was me. Of course their new album is fantastic, it's just that slagging it off was the nearest I could get to civil disobedience. It's a great shag album, especially track number two, "Accelerator". Go-Kart Mozart is a great shag album too. And "Drinkin' Um Bongo" is more subversive than "Swastika Eyes". Paul, not only did you get the blame for slagging off Primal Scream, your archive now has the word "swastika" in it. That should clear the glue out of your head. I told you not to use that Pritt Stick as a Vick's Inhaler. Think yourself lucky, Reid Dossinger says his hair's just a load of shit sticking out of his head. Reid, you should change shampoos, mate. No wonder Isobel was frightened that time you tired to lure her into your car with no door handles on the inside. My computer has more viruses than sub-Saharan Africa. I blame you lot for pumping raw sewage into my hard disk. As a result I have over-reacted and got rid of loads of e-mail addresses. So some of you are finally shut of me. Until I look them up again. If my calculations are correct, at this very moment, Oon will be at Hong Kong racetrack, putting her life savings on Duchamp's Fountain in the 4.30. Happy Chinese New Year to those of you of an Far Eastern disposition. Do you know how close I got to the kingfisher the other day? Very close indeed. The fish-obsessed arsehole didn't even realise. Good job I was brought up by Apaches. Good news for 70s WHO fans - the obligatory BBC sessions album is coming out, appropriately enough, on Valentine's Day. Oh shit, what if no one sends me a card....who will I be able to turn to? Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Sat Feb 5 12:37:07 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 12:37:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: No Father Antonio no! You're a servant of God! In-Reply-To: <3890CD0A.A3854B1E@PVCweb.co.uk> Message-ID: /me jumps back just a little with a surprise expression at a couple of recent mails, and makes everyone a nice cup of tea. All I really want to say about it is remind people that it's list policy that Sinister Likes New People :) If anyone's got a glimmer of an impression from previous mails that we only like people who were on the list in 1977, although I know that impression was unintentional, then please have it surgically removed. Believe me, I'll always do what I can to keep Sinister as *open* as possible, while remaining sane and readable. It's like Mars Bars and Orange KitKats: we love and cherish the old chocolate bars that stay the distance, and we also love the new exciting variations if they make our tastebuds tingle. Sometimes in private we get naked and smear the chocolate on our bodies. What we don't want to do is spend all our time discussing which chocolate bars are best, instead of smearing. OK? I speak with authority, my Dad worked for Cadbury's for most of his working life. This doesn't of course mean that all chocolate is equal: some contains more intoxicating cocoa, some are rich dark and manly, some are beautifully frothy and milky, and just sometimes some are a bit bland. Just how far dare I go with this awful analogy? Please do keep being careful that what you're posting to the list is of interest to others. Chocolatey sermon ends. Besides, the Sunset Beach omnibus is on Channel 5 and all's well with the world. Now a mail from me as me rather than me as "god Mum I'll do the washing up LATER!". rachel said: > the ****** honey, while slagging the new primals album (don't listen > to him, it's fantastic!)... Eh! Well if I did slag it off, I must've done it in my sleep. What a nerve I have, I haven't even heard it! I've just had a horrible thought maybe I become Peter Miller when I'm asleep? Maybe he's just the other side of me, like that old episode in Star Trek when there were two Kirk's? Maybe when I'm sleep-typing I have romantic illusions of living in a castle in Spain and knowing all there is to know about the 70s Who, except for Keith? I'm going to book myself into one of those Sleep Research Centres and see if I grow a curly moustache, sombrero and maraccas overnight. I've just heard on the radio that "Hit Entertainment", the company who currently make "Bob The Builder" have put in a bid to buy the company who own "Thomas the Tank Engine" and "Captain Pugwash" - to make the biggest kids TV company in Europe (and presumable the one with the most double-entendres?). Does this mean Mark C of this list who works for Bob will become a billionaire overnight? Greig Marshall said ages ago: > Just a fleeting thought. Does Honey have a secret cheeky reason for > getting a .org rather than a .com? Ooo yes it's deeply political! I feel strongly that the Internet should be about ORGanisations and not COMmercial concerns. That and the fact that missprint.com belongs to a Portugese printing shop. I actually mailed them the other day, missprint.com, hands across the water kind of thing: I wrote a letter in English (or as close as I can do) and then ran it through Babelfish translator at http://babelfish.altavista.com to make it Portugese, then sent it. As older list members remember when we played with some B&S lyrics there, translating them into French and back to English the results are interesting. I'm expecting a call from Interpol about death threats to Portugese photocopiers any minute. There's at least three Portugese people on Sinister - what are Portugese prisons like? By the way, this is *not* an invitation to post more babelfished lyrics to the list! Go and see the archives e.g.: http://www.mail-archive.com/sinister at majordomo.net/1998-month-04/msg00325.html Still sneezing under quilt, Honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Sat Feb 5 15:50:25 2000 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 15:50:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Isobel's rampant meglomania continues apace Message-ID: <8025687C.00572176.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> ... from the NME piece: "Belle & Sebastian are kind of like the Gentle Waves backing band" she explained.* In other news, just as things threatened to turn sour, I spied "Subject: Sinister: The Penguin Book of Massive Knockers" in my in-box and I knew all was right with the world. This confusion between Peter Miller and our Lord and Father has happened before, I think. Can it just be that they share the same intials? I don't think so. I mean no one mixes them up with Princess Margaret, do they? Well not on this list, anyway. > Of course their new album is fantastic, it's just that slagging > it off was the nearest I could get to civil disobedience. I just wanted to give this a second airing. I saw Booby Gillespie and Mani on the TV recently. Bobby was doing his complete stoner act and it was quite painful to watch. My friend says she knows he's a tit but it doesn't matter. But it puts me off. I'm not very good at taking bands seriously when their members are so daft. Patrick Malahide also wrote: > So some of you are finally shut of me. Maybe this was just a mistyping, but isn't the expression 'shot of me'? I only mention it in case he's gone through his life getting it wrong and wondering why people look at him funny. My dad reached middle age thinking frogspawn was called 'frogs born'. Twee fucker. Nick xx * Don't worry elle. I love Isobel really and make a point of 'encouraging' her on a regular basis . It's just fun to tease. Like with that girl at school who smelled of spam. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Sat Feb 5 17:14:44 2000 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 12:14:44 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Sarah Cracknell - I want to be Sarah Cracknell - either that of Hailey Mills Message-ID: <200002051214_MC2-97DE-890B@compuserve.com> Hello shit bags. Look what I've got for you beauties, something from the NME, corr, look at the legs on this: << BELLE & SEBASTIAN's Stuart David has NOT left the band - and has instead finished the latest album from his other outfit Looper. Rumours on the band's internet sites were rife that David had quit the group - but his spokesperson said that instead, he'd been busy completing new Looper album 'Geometrid', out through Jeepster at the beginning of May. She said: "There's nothing mysterious going on. Stuart is still very much a part of Belle & Sebastian, and is now with the band busy putting the finishing touches to their forthcoming album." She continued that Belle & Sebastian had just one more week in the studio before recording was completed. The members would then concentrate on packaging and artwork, she said. No titles are available yet, but it was due out late spring/summer through Jeepster. The spokesperson also revealed that various members of Belle & Sebastian were also likely to feature on 'Geometrid', named after a type of moth which has caterpillars known as 'loopers'. Many of the band will also feature on the new Gentle Waves album, the side project of Belle & Sebastian's Isabelle Campbell. "Belle & Sebastian are kind of like The Gentle Waves backing band," she explained. The Gentle Waves album, which is not yet titled will be out nearer the summer, also through Jeepster. In the meantime, Belle & Sebastian will release their first three EPs in a set on March 6. Titled 'Lazy Line Painter Jane', the package will contain 12 songs in a slipcase and will retail for £9.99. >> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jda349 at xxx.edu Sat Feb 5 19:56:01 2000 From: jda349 at xxx.edu (Joseph Askins) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 13:56:01 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Masquerading as superheroes Message-ID: <389C8051.DADC51DC@mizzou.edu> Been a while since my last post... Shafted yesterday's Psych 1 lecture and skipped on over to the comic store instead. Walked out with $15 dollars worth of new comics (ten years ago, that would have bought me, oh, 15 comics...today that buys me five) and again skipped over to Whizz Records. I had reviewed the new Southpacific album this week and absolutely fell in love, so I talked to Breeze about ordering my own copyt. I can almost guarantee that I'll be broke by the time it comes in, but knowing the speed at which Breeze works, I'll probably be out of school and raising kids by the time he finally calls me to tell me they've arrived. Made it home in one piece, read my Batman comics, and took a nap. Woke that evening, got some dinner, and footed it over to Drew's dorm room. He was wanting to read the latest Sin City and was finished making tapes of my "Tigermilk" and "LLPJ" CDs (and now that I think of it, I don't believe I made it out of his room with them...that sneaky rat). We sat around, expounding on the brilliance of Frank Miller and carrying on about whether or not "Watchmen" was REALLY better than "Dark Knight Returns". We're such nerds. Looking at the clock, we realized that it was almost time to head over to the Ranch, and we didn't have a ride. Thankfully, Tony hadn't left his apartment left and was willing to swing by and pick us up. Got to the Ranch around 9:30. The Ranch is a big, ranch-style house right outside of Columbia, and the guys who live there are always bringing bands in to play in the oversized basement. A spacy noise rock extravaganza of a band called the Allscars were playing. Someone said that they had connections to Nation of Ulysses and Dischord Records, but I never pursued to find out what their story was. They played well, with the lead singer/trumpeter guy providing more entertainment through his dancing than through the actual music. Near the very end of their set, he ran into the crowd, handing people whistles and kazoos to play. I was one of the lucky recipients, but again, I don't believe I made it out of the basement with my whistle. After it was all over, we hung around, trying to decide what to do. Drew was talking to a few of our friends from the radio station, while I was chatting it up with an attractive little number with short dark hair and an equally short skirt. Lost interest in her after she told me that she hadn't read "High Fidelity" but insisted that it couldn't be any better than "Our Noise". Blasphemy. And just as I was figuring out what to put on her mix tape, no less... Drew, Tony, and I drove over to our friend John's house for post-show refreshments (Pabst Blue Ribbon and burgers cooked on John's new George Foreman grill). John had a few video tapes lying around, so we popped one in--"Real TV: Disasters Caught on Tape!" Nothing we haven't seen in similar shows on Fox every week, but it fit the atmosphere. Drew and Tony left right before a few more radio station kids showed up. I stayed there until 4:00, listening to Big Star and Dusty Springfield. Everyone headed out or turned in around the same time, and I got a ride back to the dorm. My roommate was nowhere to be found--probably off in his girlfriend's bedroom, where he can be found most of the time--and I crashed as soon as my head hit the pillow, my head filled with dreams of Batman and girls with good taste. Joseph "Ooh, my picture is finally on the Sinister page" Askins +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trollopinpaisley at xxx.com Sun Feb 6 02:25:39 2000 From: trollopinpaisley at xxx.com (Georgine Skeene) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 18:25:39 -0800 Subject: Sinister: sinisters are doing it for themselves Message-ID: <55FB5CCC8BBD3D11789300807CFBD63A@trollopinpaisley.fcmail.com> hello you dodgy lot, time for some more britishisms and droll sarcasm! with your fave rave, erstwhile sinister sweetheart LesleyJo back in black kicking it old skool wit dat gentle waves flava. So how are you lot doing. i must confess i've been too broken hearted and absorbed in "real life" to read the list for a while. err yes. well if you must know, xmas break was pure cathartic, crucible-esque (not the play, but the concept itself) misery. I'm still working on my horribly mangled betrayed heart. And trying to be as gay as possible. Gaying it up, if you wish to know. Georgie dickie, your post was enigmatic, droll and amusing at best. labyrinth is one of the coolest movies ever. i used to fantasize i could send my baby brother off to the goblins just like that chick whose name i can't remember. so what is up with that new record? oh ho. how about that stuart murdoch, he's a fine upstanding young lad fer shurr. i think isobel is quite fetching for her gender. and yes, cunning. Ten biggest wanks: Lili Taylor, janeane garofalo, Beth Littleford of the daily show. va-va VOOM. It's practically scandalous, she's an erotic goddess in disguise!! Hooray!~ it's feeling jes like olden times, with the posts bitching about how sinister used to be better, and baa to tweeness, you twee hello kitty bastards. well boo to you! cos sinister was WAY better before anyone had ever heard of it, and no one was even on the list to see how fokkin cool it was, it was THAT cool, if you even knew how cool it was you would drop dead of terminal hipness. Yeah, so there. Eat the existential void, ya bastards! nothingness kicks yall sorry asses, so there. I dont' care what anyone says, i still mourn my MIA gentle waves live recording. OH to hear the sexy song again!!! >>or if Zoloft is putting its plan for world domination into effect by If so, i must be a massive asset to the new world order. so here i am. so sue me!! Go see PECKER> it's a bloody great film and i laughed out loud many times. and Lili Taylor is nothing short of ravishing in this particular role. OWWW!!! i think with all this titillation i could explode anytime soon, so if you wanna say hello best do so right away before i'm a mess of dripping liquid and nought more. pureed sanitarily, thee lesleyjo and company http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange to the pure, all things are pure--- http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange/buxoms.html ***The Buxoms: Svengali-free since 1998!!*** ______________________________________________________ Sent by FortuneCity Mail at http://www.fortunecity.com Join now and receive 20Mb of free web space and E-mail +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Delaware9 at xxx.com Sun Feb 6 05:15:26 2000 From: Delaware9 at xxx.com (Delaware9 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 00:15:26 EST Subject: Sinister: SNL Surrealness Message-ID: Hey! Not like I ever write in or anything, but I just had to comment cos it was so odd, they just played a good minute, at least, of "TIJAMRS" in a skit on Saturday Night Live, in the US, preceded by Luna's "23 Minutes in Brussels" and followed by the Eagles' "Hotel California" and Beck's "Cyanide Breath Mint." It was not actually a SNL skit, but a short film done by a guy called Adam McKay. The skit was something rather smutty, and silly, abt guys in a bar wanting to seduce the star of "The Heat is On" or something. But it was still surreal to hear it in such a context. If only they had played the Magnetic Fields or something, too! The meek shall inherit the earth, Bob Saget +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Sun Feb 6 05:21:15 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 00:21:15 EST Subject: Sinister: something semi not worth reading. Message-ID: !news flash! gothic clubs play righteous music. (80s popthat is) but to my point... i absolutely could have just died, it's a horribly boring night at home. SNL is on and who do i hear playing in the background? none other than b&s. i almost fell out of my chair. it was TIJAMRS. wowzers. i became so jubilant i had to run over to my computer and inform you all. well that is all ciao iris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From swanarama at xxx.com Sun Feb 6 05:26:20 2000 From: swanarama at xxx.com (Amanda Bergman) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 00:26:20 -0500 Subject: Sinister: they're still(er) the one! Message-ID: <389D05FC.EFCAB923@hotmail.com> Okay, for once I think staying in on a Saturday night *may* have been worth it. So just to let everyone on the list who is either not in the US, or who has a social life to speak of: B&S music was used (for quite some time) in a Saturday Night Live segment tonight. It was played in the background during a bar scene just prior to a scintillating bit featuring Ben Stiller et al cavorting in sundry homosexual acts. But there it was! Vocals and all! And though no one else in #sinister seemed to hear it, I was sure I heard someone say "great album" after the music was played. It wasn't like they band were mentioned, or that the whole song was used, but there definitely is something exhilirating about hearing B&S on as widely a watched show as SNL. I wonder who had a hand in picking the music for the show...was host Alan Cumming making a subtle show of support for his fellow countrymen? off to calm down after all that excitement, Amanda -- “If someone steals your cab, then it wasnÂ’t your cab.” --from Taxi Driver Wisdom >>visit Red Roses For Me<< www.redrosesforme.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Sun Feb 6 05:23:53 2000 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 21:23:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: p.s. send honey Message-ID: <20000206052353.17721.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com> oh my fucking god make it stop make it stop! "this is just a modern rock song" is playing Right Now on saturday night live while ben stiller is making out with some guy. i kid you not. and they actually played the parts while struan Sings, not just the music part like when they play b&s on things like mtv's rock the vote or whatever that was. oh this is just wrong. way wrong. KIMberly is shaking and near-faint in the next room, she's so disturbed. she feels violated. and i kind of do, too. it feels icky. and what is this? my prayers are answered! lesley jo back on da list??? and how ironic, because just 15 minutes ago i finished watching "better than chocolate," a BIG LESBIAN MOVIE with HOT LESBIAN SEX. well, you know, sort of. hot damn. perhaps LJ saw this too, as she wrote... > i'm a mess of dripping liquid sinisters doing it for themselves indeed. this morning i was watching a winnie the pooh cartoon, and it was an episode in which christopher robin runs away from home, and he leaves a note which reads, "p.s. send honey." nuff said. right. i need a drink. what's that? rum and cokes in the next room. xoxo, ree ===== ************************************************************** "to me she was just marie." -mersault "hearts don't break/ the division is innate" -secret stars eliam at alleg.edu | littlearsonist at yahoo.com | aol IM:LazyJane22 ************************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From melissa.thornton at xxx.ca Sun Feb 6 14:58:37 2000 From: melissa.thornton at xxx.ca (MelissaThornton) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 09:58:37 -0500 Subject: Sinister: if you care. References: Message-ID: <389D8DC4.20220D14@utoronto.ca> > Hey! Not like I ever write in or anything, but I just had to comment > cos it was so odd, they just played a good minute, at least, of > "TIJAMRS" in a skit on Saturday Night Live, in the US, yeah, i haven't watched SNL for like a year and a half. but for some reason i saw it last night and heard it too. well the host was the very cute Alan Cumming and he's scottish so he may of had something to do with it. though, the skit had Ben stiller in it and he might be a fan, sooo. also, i've decided to go to ATP. i know that there is one other person probably sharing a chalet with me...so, if there are two more people interested, well then that would make four. and four is a nice even number, don't you find? but...i'm not just going there. oh no. i'll be in leeds for about a week before that (so all leeds people let me know if anything good is happening). then i'm going to go to london for a couple of days before going to rye (so all london people let me know if anything good is happening...i was looking forward to a reunion with steve the fish, but i know that is a very painful subject). then after atp, i'll be taking the train to glasgow for a bit. i have relatives in johnston...so if anyone happens to be in close proximity to there let me know. i'm not just saying this either, if anyone has any good ideas, please do mail me. thanks! oh, what a good beginning of spring i will have. yours etc, emily. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From caroline945 at xxx.com Sun Feb 6 15:37:20 2000 From: caroline945 at xxx.com (caroline smith) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 15:37:20 GMT Subject: Sinister: the first steps are always the hardest.... Message-ID: <20000206153720.21315.qmail@hotmail.com> hello chickadees, i've finally taken the plunge and mailed the list after weeks of plucking up the courage, although my mail will unfortunately remain not that exciting...sorry. (i should apologise now for my inadequacies at this type of thing). well my b+s content comes courtesy of those nice people at nme who inform me that your favorites are not splitting up and the new album is very nearly finished, just artwork gubbins to finish now, i feel very excited! similarly wanted to ask all you lovely sinisterenes about alltommorowsparties - who is there apart from b+s (i realise they are of the most importance) but was just wondering as i often do when i have a politic essay on the us president to finish for tomorrow. ho-hum must go now to find more distractions from work, but just wanted to ask if i am a bad person as i can't always keep up with all the e-mails? oh well, i hope to speak to you all again very soon lots of love from a dizzy marshmellow dancing on a sunbeam caroline xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hicks81 at xxx.com Sun Feb 6 16:39:39 2000 From: hicks81 at xxx.com (grisham ohairy) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 08:39:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: JIMMY GREAVES!!!!!! Message-ID: <20000206163939.19964.qmail@web111.yahoomail.com> oh my god oh my god OH MY GOD!! guess who came into my tea shop today? none other than jimmy greaves, famous 50's footballer and now drunken football pundit. i feel honoured. and i had to serve him - he had a pot of tea, and his fat wife had a big piece of apple pie with ice cream. but he didn't leave a tip, but it was jimmy greaves so i didn't complain... mr matthew hicks p.s. i have his autograph if anyone wants one...it'll be �5 for a photocopy, and �10 for a high quality forgery...leave the money in an unmarked brown envelope behind the copies of "model toilet collector" in menzies. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachel at xxx.uk Sun Feb 6 16:55:25 2000 From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 16:55:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: confused ramblings Message-ID: <001d01bf70c2$f8543de0$86a4883e@preinstalledco> i'm not sure how to write about what i want to write about now. it's been going round my head, all jumbled and tangled and i can't get the thoughts straight. so forgive me if what i say doesn't make sense; it's because it doesn't make sense, not to me anyway. i went to the football yesterday. the match and outcome aren't important, they were overshadowed by the fact last saturday a guy called martin aldridge died in a road accident, and the game was played in memory of him. he was 25, and had played as striker for both teams involved, oxford and blackpool. i didn't know him, i only met him out on the lash a couple of times over the time he was with us. yet during the minutes silence the sheer weight of memory i have for the man hit home. i saw this guy doing his job for 90 minutes at most twice a week for a couple of seasons, yet i felt like i knew him. is this wrong, inappropriate? he expressed himself through the way he did his job. do you, the people on this list feel you know stuart murdoch through his songwriting? i know that during certain songs i do, yet i've never met him and to be honest i don't want to, it could only be a let down. but i think i know my dad, after all he's my dad. yet i see him at the most for an hour a night during the week and maybe more at the weekend, if i'm lucky. so for all those hours that i don't see him, what does he do? what's he like? is he exactly the same when he's mr tucker, systems analyst, or when he's good old graham down the pub, as he is when he's my dad? does he even exist? i was at work the other day and this customer said that she'd seen me in her daughter's school photograph. she was really shocked because she'd assumed that i worked in co-op all day. so to her, and various people in my town, my existence is entwined with that of a supermarket, even though i only spend a tiny(ish) proportion of my time there. for martin aldridge's family yesterday they witnessed 5000 football fans honour martin aldridge the striker. did that confuse them as much as it confused me? i can't get my head around his life away from the football pitch, but at the same time assume things about him and his life from how he acted on the football pitch. and now he's dead. i'm stuck now, my incoherent ramble can't find a way out of this. rachel xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sun Feb 6 17:18:43 2000 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 17:18:43 -0000 Subject: Sinister: confused ramblings References: <001d01bf70c2$f8543de0$86a4883e@preinstalledco> Message-ID: <002301bf70c6$39588000$4c51883e@default> Rachel, I just wanted to say that your post was absolutely beautiful. I know exactly what you mean about professing to know someone who you hardly ever see, but it's a human reaction, we turn the usual into the familiar, then we get upset when the familiar changes. I don't know if you ever heard the story of a young Celtic player (a youth teamer) who showed a lot of promise (about a year ago now) and he was murdered. To see 60,000 people stand silent and pay their respects then give a rendition of 'You'll Never Walk Alone' in his honour was something that will stay with me to my dying day, and despite the acknowledgement only being for his football, his family were still moved and grateful for such a monument for a young man's memory. I've probably babbled quite incoherently here, but I think you'll be able to figure out what I mean. --Jason "And in the rapture and the charm Came the tranquil and the calm" ICQ: 45821217 ----- Original Message ----- From: rachel tucker To: sinister Sent: 06 February 2000 16:55 Subject: Sinister: confused ramblings > i'm not sure how to write about what i want to write about now. it's been > going round my head, all jumbled and tangled and i can't get the thoughts > straight. so forgive me if what i say doesn't make sense; it's because it > doesn't make sense, not to me anyway. > > i went to the football yesterday. the match and outcome aren't important, > they were overshadowed by the fact last saturday a guy called martin > aldridge > died in a road accident, and the game was played in memory of him. > > he was 25, and had played as striker for both teams involved, oxford and > blackpool. i didn't know him, i only met him out on the lash a couple of > times over the time he was with us. yet during the minutes silence the sheer > weight of memory i have for the man hit home. > > i saw this guy doing his job for 90 minutes at most twice a week for a > couple of seasons, yet i felt like i knew him. is this wrong, inappropriate? > he expressed himself through the way he did his job. do you, the people on > this list feel you know stuart murdoch through his songwriting? i know that > during certain songs i do, yet i've never met him and to be honest i don't > want to, it could only be a let down. > > but i think i know my dad, after all he's my dad. yet i see him at the most > for an hour a night during the week and maybe more at the weekend, if i'm > lucky. so for all those hours that i don't see him, what does he > do? what's he like? is he exactly the same when he's mr tucker, systems > analyst, or when he's good old graham down the pub, as he is when he's my > dad? does he even exist? i was at work the other day and this customer said > that she'd seen me in her daughter's school photograph. she was really > shocked because she'd assumed that i worked in co-op all day. so to her, and > various people in my town, my existence is entwined with that of a > supermarket, even though i only spend a tiny(ish) proportion of my time > there. > > for martin aldridge's family yesterday they witnessed 5000 football fans > honour martin aldridge the striker. did that confuse them as much as it > confused > me? i can't get my head around his life away from the football pitch, but at > the same time assume things about him and his life from how he acted on the > football pitch. > > and now he's dead. > > i'm stuck now, my incoherent ramble can't find a way out of this. > > rachel xxx > > > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cjromeu at xxx.pt Sun Feb 6 17:06:01 2000 From: cjromeu at xxx.pt (Tiago Romeu) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 18:06:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?casa_de_fotoc=F3pias?= In-Reply-To: <200002061500.PAA07948@missprint.org> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000206180601.008882c0@mail.eunet.pt> « I'm expecting a call from Interpol about death threats to Portugese photocopiers any minute. There's at least three Portugese people on Sinister - what are Portugese prisons like? » not that good I'm afraid. even so, they introduced something that has been very talked in the press that are hotel suites with a bedroom, a kitchenette and a bathroom, so the prisioners can have intimism moments with their wifes or lovers, only during one hour. perhaps they let you connect to the internet from there, get sinister *intimately*. by the way, if you wanted a translation, why didn't you just ask ? tiago +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From invisible_boy at xxx.net Sun Feb 6 17:53:04 2000 From: invisible_boy at xxx.net (invisible_boy) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 17:53:04 -0000 Subject: Sinister: boy falls backwards over broken fence Message-ID: <003f01bf70cb$1ef4e0a0$dc0b3c3e@oemcomputer> evenin' pop pickers (well, it is for me...) ***Please tell me I'm not the only one.... Every day I need to walk several times over a bridge which crosses a decent sized river, and I swear that every time I get an almost (*almost*) uncontrollable urge to just drive right off. Not that I want to die, you understand, not that at all. I have this problem with heights - I just want to jump. I get it even in places like the upper floors in shopping centres or peoples landings. I'm not kidding. Dammit I just wanna JUMP. Falling...mmmmm Someone rescue my romanitcally disillusional soul. Hmmm, what a blitheringly nice weekend. I seem to have spent it all being asleep, reading my Milan Kundera novel (Identity) and watchings vids. And look what's happened - I feel all fresh, cogent and articulate. Looks like I'm going to have go get myself leathered now lest I go into work tommorow feeling good and start getting all cocky "I wonder what'll happen if I push *this* button..." etc. which wouldn't do at all. Being a boy of few words, I'll shut up now and go and get my beers, while I try to learn how to play some B&S songs (picks up guitar and starts smacking it wildly). Delightful. Oh, here come the neighbours looking angry, better run away. Kev (permanent bemused smile) --- Cronenberg - http://www.explode.to/davidcronenberg/ Regular Chickens - http://www.explode.to/regularchickens/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lixibell at xxx.com Sun Feb 6 19:11:17 2000 From: lixibell at xxx.com (alix campbell) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 19:11:17 GMT Subject: Sinister: my dramatic return(minus the drama) Message-ID: <20000206191117.80715.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear dirty Sinistriens After a long pause I am back. Not that I recognise anyone anymore, its all new folk these days. You know, it used to be all fjords round here when I wus a lad. Despite being away for months, I still can�t think what to write. It�s a bit like writing thank you letters to your great aunt after xmas. Not that I got any dodgy presents from you lot. Not even a woolly jumper. Or a cardie. Only I would have liked that. I have lots of cardies. Almost too many. How do you know when you�ve got too many cardies? Well, living in London is certainly grate. I�ve mostly been unemployed, or asleep. When I�m not asleep I�m eating noodles, or hovering. However if anyone at Finsbury Park Jobcentre is reading this, I am, of course just having a lend of you, as Alf Stewart would say, and have been devoting every waking hour to finding work. Not that I have many waking hours. I�m lucky if I�m sentient enough to watch Quincy. Last night I was chez Tim, Sez and Trousers, watching people dance like loons to 70s Who. Sez makes a mean pavlova and Trousers does things to lasagne which are pleasant. It was very ridgy didge (sp?) I also got to watch fluffystarrysarah argue about Yes. Now, I�m a Yes fan and started this whole debacle by taping her Close to the Edge, but liking Yes is fundamentally illogical and attempting to prove their GRATEness just won�t work. To people I�ve promised tapes to, they ARE being done. Really. Truly. Can you just remind me who you are, and what you wanted? Flora Light margarine is fantastic. It brightens my otherwise dull culinary life. It�s not as good as mayonnaise, but I can�t afford mayonnaise anymore. My new year�s resolution was to be more offensive but I don�t think I�ve done particularly well. When I was wading in Trafalgar square with StarrySarah we did yell �ooh stick you� at passers-by, but I�ve generally been lovely. I�ve still to post my Xmas thank you letters though. Sorry Aunty Wyn. It would be in the post if I could be arsed to leave the flat. That�s about it really. I love everyone who�s bought me a drink in the last few months, and to anyone who hasn�t you�re alright too. Alcohol�s over rated. Oh, and a big UP to Rugmuncher, Cookie Monster, Mum and Jam Sandwich Face. Right, time to face the lesbians Love alix~lixi "Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's an 8 inch anal probe, silly" ~ DNaMagazine ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Sun Feb 6 18:15:34 2000 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 18:15:34 BST Subject: Sinister: enuff already Message-ID: <9F4E7076D81@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> where to begin? i have read with interest the calls for change to the list, and in the main i agree, but spank me with a potato masher and call me ernie, is there really any need for quite so much smut. i know some of you are trying to prove that being a b+s fan doesn't mean you are 'twee' or have no interest in sex of any kind (although i do wonder if that would be a good thing in some cases). but really, some of us have to read this in a public place. seriously, sinister is in some respects a sanctuary for me, somewhere to escape the debauchery of real life. (if anyone has any tips on how to let down gently a short, manic-depressive, who wears eyeliner, please let me know, i'm having something of a crisis) i can create quite enough filth of my own, cheers, without having to negotiate my way round other people's assorted bodily fluids. shit now i'm doing it, ok, maybe we are just a species of leopards who can't change their spots, but my delicate, innocent nature needs to be protected (offers of protection from handsome sinistereenies with floppy hair gratefully accepted). oh, and did anyone see casualty last night, it was fantastic, and oh so emotional. well, i'm off to smear chocolate..... no, sorry, i'm off to read stories about fluffy bunnies frolicking in the forest love and jaffa cakes (eaten whole, nothing melted anywhere you understand) fiona +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittenmouse at xxx.com Sun Feb 6 21:14:16 2000 From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (kitten mouse) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 13:14:16 PST Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20000206211416.82513.qmail@hotmail.com> hi kids, i can never think of anything interesting to write to the list, but i thought i'd do so anyway. my boyfriend called me up from halfway across the US to tell me about B&S music being played on SNL last night, and i was watching it, but i think it'd already aired. oh well. i guess they played a band called brise-glace also, according to him. i checked out the link to nme's article about b&s, and you know what the funny thing is? i was looking at some other articles about b&s on their site, and the picture of stuart m. accompanying the new article (about stuart d. not leaving and whatnot) seems to be the only photo they use--just with different captions where relevant. just thought it was kinda funny. ok, i'll stop before i get too stupid. -andrea ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From modpopstar at xxx.com Sun Feb 6 21:48:07 2000 From: modpopstar at xxx.com (Leyla McNickle) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 13:48:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: "Shut up -you're way down boring. All you've got Are modern Stories" Message-ID: <20000206214807.12856.qmail@web302.mail.yahoo.com> ..Someday ..Someday soon ..lifes gonna catch up with you ..someday ..someday soon ..It's all gonna crash down on you hello list kids. It's been another weekend. Another few hangovers, another few dissapointments. I've done my exams this past week, and I won't have any for another 3-4 weeks. Luckily. So now, I can just sulk about and participate fully in all my hedonist dreams. My last post (also Sarahless) involved my rockstar poseur attitude. That was probably last week. This past week. I feel like I am being looked at, followed, and stalked. There is a general sense of uneasyness... and sometimes I feel as though I am going quite mad. Still. There are those few people in my life, that make all the uneasyness dissapear. When I get to bask in their passion for life and fun, I easily forget everything that is bothering me... But now, I sit alone in my room...trying to find the energy to leave the house and do something productive... It's 4:36 in the afternoon... and the likleyhood of doing anything useful seems to be diminishing at an extraordinary rate. The thought of sitting at home, watching sappy movies, and crying seems so much more useful.... Some B&S content: I had a good night last night. Went to the pub with Sarah and met up with some friends. Had a couple ciders and such....generally had a good time. The pub owner lets us play our Cd's in the hi-fi...which is rocking, cos' otherwise we would have to listen to some half-arsed american country type music. Anyway. So, Sarah and I did get to enjoy some good Belle & Sebastian tunes that night... I was feeling quite down as it was.. but watching Sarah singing to B&S... made me happy. She is so beautiful to watch when she gets passionate about something. Her eyes close...and she just sings...it feels like we are the only people in the world that know the way things are...the only ones that understand what B&S means... anyway! Also, London info. I've heard some of this talk about Tigermilking or whatever in London. If someone can please give me info on this, I would be most greatful. Me, Sarah and Company..will be in london march2-13th... so, yeah. Let me know what all that is about. Its very sad when you give up on someone. It's like you have lost all hope in the human race as a whole. I used to feel that I could like/love anyone and everyone... but as I am experiencing new relationships (of the boyfriendish nature) I realise that sometimes you just can not "make do" with what you have. The only thing I wonder..is it my fault that I can not "make do" with other peoples faults...or is that their problem... I will now go, and be the type of girl I never thought I would be. I will watch a sappy movie, eat chocholate cake, and cry. :) Should be a new experience. One that I hopefully won't make a habit of. "love and poison" leyla "I Wanna Be Adored" ===== http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pavilion/4941/ ******************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dchard at xxx.ca Sun Feb 6 23:09:42 2000 From: dchard at xxx.ca (ipecac spice) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 19:09:42 -0400 (AST) Subject: Sinister: lurking Message-ID: hi. i am going to try going into lurking mode for a bit. i wanted you all to love me so i wrote quite a few generally mundane messages. unfortunately i probably just succeeded in boring you all and as i have very little excitement in my life i have decided to stop bothering you with my posts for a while. but before i go hide i was just wondering if there are in sinisterians who will be in ottawa anytime between feb 25 and march 4. i am going up to visit my boyfriend for spring break, but he will be in work all day and i will be lonely. if anyone wants to meet up please e-mail me. thanks. i would say more but i will just end up rambling. -di "i respect those who have faith even though they are ignorant" -hemingway +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martinrissbrook at xxx.com Sun Feb 6 23:35:20 2000 From: martinrissbrook at xxx.com (Martin Rissbrook) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 15:35:20 PST Subject: Sinister: This and that Message-ID: <20000206233520.28703.qmail@hotmail.com> Well hello again, some of you may remember me, most of you probably won't, I didn't post much anyway (and they were never worth reading!) But I thought I'd pipe up now as I've got a whole week without work, on account of starting a new job in Manchester a week on Monday, and I've no excuse for NOT writing something. However boring it may prove to be..... Does anybody else on the list love the band Spearmint as much as I do? Probably not seeing as their latest single entered the charts at no 88 last week, and I don't imagine you have to sell TOO many copies to achieve that....about 15 I'd guess...so shame on you all for not rushing out and buying it...single of the decade by a mile! Well done to Rachel for mentioning the sad and tragic death of Martin Aldridge, who was on playing on loan at Rushden and Diamonds FC (my mum and dad's local team)when he died. The death of a minor footballer may not mean much to many of you, but when I went home last, the whole town was in a state of shock, so I know how Rachel feels. Well, I suppose I may try and write more frequently, and who knows I may even think of something interesting to write...stranger things have happened... By the way, what happened to all the old timers anyhow? Starry's the only one I can remember round here.... And if anybody's ever in the Manchester arae wants to meet up and say hi, I should be moving there soon. Byeeeee Risso Hmmmm, I've just read what I've put, and it reminds me for some reason of one of those crappy rambling letters old people write to local newspapers....maybe I should sign off "Name and address withheld" from now on ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Mon Feb 7 02:49:37 2000 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 18:49:37 -0800 Subject: Sinister: work? wha's that? Message-ID: so i should be doing my thesis (i was earlier today, i swear!) but i decided to post to sinister. first a little b&s-ish content: i wish i had a television. moreso i wish i had a television that got NBC (for some reason we don't get it in this area of campus) so i could know all this stuff about SNL playing b&s. ah, oh well. good to hear the band haven't disbanded (ha! i made a funny), but i didn' think they would, anyway. i mean, what would they do without stuart d.? so a girl i knew a bit a couple years ago who sort of blew me off (long story, but we were supposed to live together, and she ended up living someplace else and stopped speaking to me) was in my room the other night and looks at my wall and says "i'm so in love with all the bands you have posters of [namely b&s, the jesus and mary chain, slint, prince, morrissey, and madonna], particularly belle and sebastian." and since i've sort of lost respect for her i just kind of said "that's nice." was that awful of me not to embrace some other fellow fan here? of course, it's not like we're totally at a loss for them out here, there's 4 of us on the list (well, two aren't here now, but they used to be), i hear belle and sebbie playing from windows of the various buildings around here, and last year some girl whispered to her friend as she walked behind me when we crossed paths "she has a belle and sebastian patch!" referring to my homemade patch with the two dancing kids on it. it's quite nice, too, if i do say so myself. ho hum. so that went nowhere and took a very long time to do so. i got a new computer, so i'm happy. my old one died a slow and painful death, and is currently sitting in the corner of my room, waiting to be dismantled and thrown out the window. no, i'll probably just give parts away to people who want them. but my new computer is pink. and it's named landon auger, because it's very quiet and enjoys puzzles. how twee of me. so last night i was up until 4am and got hungry and polished off the better portion of a wedge of brie and several pickles. that's bad. but i made powerpuff girls startup screens for my computer. that's good. but they don't look perfect yet. that's bad. but it comes with your choice of free topping. that's good. the toppings contain sodium benzoate (that's bad). okay, now that i'm done spewing simpsons nonsense i'll move on to bigger and better things. maybe i should start campaigning for list crush votes. you know, make buttons and stuff. teehee. or i could just take my old "john kerry for us senate" sign and mangle it so it says "kerry for list crush" instead. actually, i already cut the "john" out, so it currently says "kerry for us senate," which i've been repeatedly getting a huge kick out of for about 3 and a half years (that's bad). um. has anybody here listened to any of will oldham's bonnie prince billy stuff? what's it like? let me know privately, please. it's about time i got meself some new music, and that's close to the top of the list (that's good). -kerry "sustained by special providence, i am fighting for dear life against that demonic rice-cake." -Soseki Natsume, _i am a cat_ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Justin.GALKE at xxx.au Sun Feb 6 23:55:10 2000 From: Justin.GALKE at xxx.au (GALKE,Justin) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:55:10 +1100 (EST) Subject: Sinister: The kids are alright Message-ID: <200002062355.KAA10869@name-ext.deetya.gov.au> On saturday night i DJed ("I am a DJ, I am what I play" - bowie) at Pop! I took the kids to school and played a few B&S numbers, because, although the kids don't know it, they love B&S, it is what they WANT to hear!! They had no choice really....Anyway, I was a success, and have been asked to DJ at the next Pop! It was my first ever night as a DJ, and btw my first ever post to this group... justin. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Mon Feb 7 00:19:07 2000 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 19:19:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re: Fiona's post & me being more pseudo-literary than LC (not that I think he is) Message-ID: Lieber Sinister, So I gather from Fiona's post (which I just accidentally deleted) that 'twee fucker' is something of an oxymoron. I don't think the content of the list is pornographic a-tall, and I'm not suggesting that it should be more so, cos there's really no point in it unless you're vaguely flirting, and flirting indiscriminately is no good. Anything other than the mention of the exact perception or its objective correlative (to borrow a term from Eliot) is peripheral. I guess it can't be helped that people want to tell 3rd parties about their feelings - indulgence towards lovers and all that. And could it be that by some circuitous route that is the source of pornography? Which is why films like 'Boogie Nights' are funny and sad. Sometimes I wonder about the truth of these lines in a song by Love: "you know that I could be in love with almost everyone/I think people are the greatest fun". Striking beauty becomes more ordinary with familiarity, but then I hold my breath when people I've taken for granted catch the light. I'm glad that this is so cos I wouldn't want to be in awe of someone forever. My German instructor is very very pretty. She was sick most of last last week and when she came back, she seemed more human. I'm puzzled by what Stuart thinks it is to be twee (if such a thing exists; more often it seems that people are after an idea of something that's not real). It's like innocence: after you're aware that such a thing exists, it's gone. So it's not authentic, and the lack of authenticity seems to be what it means more than anything else. But what Stuart wrote seems like a rejection of his former self: I mean reducing it all to knitting in pubs. Why not say that once he was that fragile! Has anyone seen the Belle & Sebastian lyric/reference page? http://www.fineran.demon.co.uk/basrefs/ It's really great. The source of one of my favorite lyrics could be a Hal Hartley film: "A family's like a loaded gun ..." It's not an exact quote from the film; there's enough originality on all sides, to the credit of Hal Hartley, Stuart, and the person who noticed it. Yours, Youn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From RPushong at xxx.com Mon Feb 7 02:15:12 2000 From: RPushong at xxx.com (RPushong at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 21:15:12 EST Subject: Sinister: " i will be the first person in history... Message-ID: <7f.565d87.25cf84b0@aol.com> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ to die of boredom..." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ welcome all...i haven't posted for a while...i've been listening to alot of felt lately... i think they are a band that i will never get bored of... & it got me thinking...(dangerous i know...) in 10 years or so...what bands or artistes are going to be remembered as representing this generation...is it going to be oasis and the manics...& robbie williams!?! ...( i have nothing personal against any of these bands or people ) already from 10 - 15 years ago...some truly great bands have been forgotten... lawrence and felt is one of them...dan treacy and the television personalities is another...bid and the monochrome set another...( i would also like to mention the pale fountains and shack and michael and john head but that is another post on its own! ) there are loads more...i have a special affection for creation records...i can even forgive alan mcgee for turning into the anti - christ...and even though the start of the end for creation was the signing of oasis and the selling out to sony...i still had a soft spot for them...they put out some of my favourite records of all time...to me alan mcgee was never " creation records boss " he was alan mcgee of biff bang pow! ...who wrote songs that could tear your heart in two... bid and the monochrome set were responsible for some of the finest pop moments known to man!...the three that i have mentioned probably never won an award between them... none of them are household names...yet they mean so much to me...they have played an important part in my life...and in 10 - 15 years time when robbie has turned into rod stewart and oasis and the manics have turned into status quo and dire straits... ...who's gonna remember lawrence , dan or bid... ~~~~~ fortune ~~~~~ i like the way belle and sebastian have managed to stay loyal to jeepster...after the brit award thing i imagine most major labels were foaming at the mouth trying to tempt them away from jeepster...loyalty is such a rare commodity these days...i love the fact that they are still with jeepster... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ forever breathes the lonely word... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i like this mp3 thing...i really do...it will be great for music on the move...but i find the idea that very soon you will be able to download an entire music collection off the net ludicrous ...i have no doubts that this will be possible...but yet again i feel the men in suits are completely missing the point...you see i like to own things...i like to collect...i love vinyl...i like to touch it and smell it ...i like the feel of it...i like cd's too ...but i love vinyl...i like the sleeves i like the little messages scratched into the end of the record...about 10 - 15 years ago we were told cd's would eventually replace vinyl by the year 2000...well 2000 is here and vinyl is still fighting its corner...i wouldn't trade my vinyl in for the world...i would rather own 2000 records taking up half my flat...instead of 50 or so memory chips in a shoebox...maybe i'm just stubborn and old fashioned... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ the optimist and the poet ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ another felt title i'm afraid ...i seem to have felt on the brain...but i love this song title i think it would make a great film title...recently i've been having a crisis of sorts...an internal war going on in my head...i lost my faith in p*o*p ...so i went away to another country to gather my thoughts and to forget about things for a while...and what happens...i walk into a bar...to be confronted by the sea urchins " pristine christine " ...swiftly followed by primal scream " all fall down "...14 iced bears " come get me " ...and the field mice " fabulous friend " ...i was a good 2000 miles away from home...and it was like being struck by lightning...it sent shivers down my spine! and then to cap off an extremely pleasant evening the dj played love's " alone again or " followed by belle and sebastians " dog on wheels " ...so my faith has been restored...it was a truly surreal experience...that i shall never forget as long as i live... i met some fellow pop fans...a list member ( who shall remain nameless )... who is now officially my best friend in the world...and for the first time in my life i am optimistic of the future ( so i am the optimist ) and she is most definately the poet... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ " I'LL REST THIS CASE... CONDEMN MY RACE... I'LL STAB A KNIFE INTO THE FACE... OF ANY MAN...WHO DARES TO OPPOSE ME..." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ DECLARATION ~ FELT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...signing off over and out... richard...i...p x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Owaysis at xxx.com Mon Feb 7 03:10:03 2000 From: Owaysis at xxx.com (Owaysis at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 22:10:03 EST Subject: Sinister: cover of "Slow Grafitti" Message-ID: <3f.a43663.25cf918b@aol.com> hi all just letting you know that i performed a cover of the song "slow grafitti" on my keyboard at home one day and made a .mp3 file of it...so, if you're interested in listening to it, i'd be happy to send it to ya. just write me at (Owaysis at aol.com). have fun! -kal +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Mon Feb 7 06:41:13 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 01:41:13 EST Subject: Sinister: fifth floor floor:haberdashery Message-ID: hallo, hello, hillo, hollo, hullo, and sometimes hyllo, well i must say it's been a week of revealing truths betwixt me and my friends. it has been refreshing tho. to get these things off of my chest. and theirs. unfortunatly one thing my good friend brent had no qualms pointing out to me thursday when we were preparing for our evening out was that Belle and Sebastian are 'hippy fags' *sigh* you see i tried to get them to enjoy it. i played tigermilk. sigh. the entire cd he sang 'hippy fags. were a bunch of hippy fags who live in scotland and think we're cool' while it is funny. i think it's very rude when i will sit thorugh a cd of his or sit and listen to him beat on his guitar. stupid boys. invisible boy states: ***Please tell me I'm not the only one.... Every day I need to walk several times over a bridge which crosses a decent sized river, and I swear that every time I get an almost (*almost*) uncontrollable urge to just drive right off. Not that I want to die, you understand, not that at all. I have this problem with heights - I just want to jump. I get it even in places like the upper floors in shopping centres or peoples landings. I'm not kidding. Dammit I just wanna JUMP. and i thought me and my best friend were the only ones. except we take it farther. sometimes i'll be driving and just think. hrm that tree looks sturdy. and think perhaps i'll run off the road. or driving over bridges i think how would the people react behind me if i were to just swerve off and go sailing thelma and louise style. minus thelma. the funny thing is i have no desire to die. not yet. i'll wait until i'm at leats fifty. perhaps 'boy' you should try bungee jumping. that might allieviate your desires. myself i've taken to rock climbing/hill climbing. it's dangerous enough to not make me want to magnle me and my car to bits. i found out that while we were all at this 'gothic' club some chic was checking me out. it's funny i think. oh well. and my friend knows her so he's going to 'hook' us up but i'm not gay i tell him and he says well you never know until you try. and i just look at him dumbfounded. stupid boys. alix wrote: How do you know when you’ve got too many cardies? perhaps it's not too many cardies but how many you wear at a time. like yesterday (saturday) for instance. i wore a 'thin' black cardie and a thicker creme one over it. a. because i couldn't find my duffel. b. well there isn't one but you get the point. hehe. it's crazy i think. two cardies in one day at the same time. at least i didn't also have a regular sweater on too. that would have been something to call the doctor about. ok well i'm just rambling shit now and none of you care. have a super week. ciao iris www.angelfire.com/journal/standhere/index.html you've never seen fire until you've seen pele blow_tori_amos_ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sbg24 at xxx.edu Mon Feb 7 06:59:57 2000 From: sbg24 at xxx.edu (Scott Gould) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 01:59:57 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Brevity Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000207015334.0094ef00@pop.cc.columbia.edu> Music has an amazing effect on me. On one hand I'm a total slave to it, and I'll search for hours for that perfect album that precisely fits my mood. On the other, if I just play a good rock song when I'm sad, I'll feel better by 2:39 in track 1. It goes the other way too, of course. "The Long and Winding Road" and Belle and Sebastian's entire repertoire could drive anyone to drink. I've always been one of those people who'll endure anything if it means having more time with someone I think I like. It doesn't matter if I'm tried and all I want is my bed; if there's a cute girl in company, I'm staying. In the event that a date occurs, I'm spineless. In fact I sort of measure how much I must like the girl in question by how horrible whatever we do is. I really liked this girl a lot, once. The proof lies in the fact that we saw "Speed" together. I endured Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bullock for her. I've never eaten sushi for anyone, though. ~scott +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETLRDHY at xxx.se Mon Feb 7 08:03:21 2000 From: ETLRDHY at xxx.se (ETLRDHY at xxx.se) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 08:03:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Dawn's chorus Message-ID: How are you all? It's very early here. I really don't like to be up and about so early, I'm sure it's not good for you. I had a very productive weekend really. I recorded a new song, well began recording it. There's still a lot to do. It's just getting light here. There is a rosy pink glow away to the south east but elsewhere it's pretty dank. Outside my window I can see three picnic tables, people sit out there in the summer when it gets very hot. But today they look slightly desolate and ever so odd. They look more like sculptures than anything which someone would wish to sit at. I think it could be the light which does that. Light really does change everything I suppose. There aren't many people at work yet. I think that's best. Again, I'd have to say that the light isn't quite right yet. Not right for people I mean. Well, not lots of them anyway. When I left my house this morning it was completely dark. The kind of dark you get at about six o'clock on a winter evening. For the first few seconds it's easy to get confused about what you're doing. I'm always convinced that I'm just popping to the Co-op to get a pint of milk. The light is just the same. Anyway, I never really post to the list and I've been on here for about a year and a half now. I went to that Poetry Cafe thing the other week. It was good. I briefly met Stevie Trousers and promptly confused him by having spotted a copy of 'Papercuts' in Brighton, Tim Hopkins who was messing around in the disabled lift and Nick Dastoor who was just as charming in real life as he is in the movies. Someone also pointed out 'Honey' to me as well, though by this stage I was far too inebriated to make any serious attempts at conversation. I was in London primarily to meet up with my long time friend associate Miss P Booze (who did actaully admit that possibly she is the bitch and I am the queen, which was nice). And the other night I 'met' Erica at the Jeepster site. She was also very nice. She offered to write some words for this song, which was very kind. I've been having all sorts of problems trying to rhyme 'Notting Hill' with anything other than 'Cheap savage thrill'. Err, if that hasn't put you off Erica, mail me and I'll send you what I have got. And finally. This list is really quite a special and incredible place. Everynow and again it seems to suffer a crisis of confidence for various reasons (BTW the reason I don't post is laziness not because I think 'sinister' is intimidating) and everytime this happens the list just seems to get over it and, in the end, simply gets better. I think it would be a very different thing to be a Belle & Sebastian fan without this list. Anyway I'll go and have some breakfast now. richard x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Mon Feb 7 10:58:45 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 02:58:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: this is just a boring e mail....please delete at will Message-ID: <20000207105845.5573.qmail@web604.mail.yahoo.com> > > well, where to begin?first of all, i didn't > realise anyone was really discussing Stuart david's > alleged leave from b+s. maybe I wasn't paying > attention. it does go in, all your words of wisdom > or silliness, but whether it pops out again or > doesn't stick as well as chewing gum to hair > (unpleasant high school memories.....) is another > matter.I am feeling delightfully cheerful today. > Fell in love with my boyfriend all over again at the > weekend (he always does this to me for some > reason).bought myself some lilies. I used to work in > an office, where fresh lilies were delievered each > week, but then they'd just start to open at the end > of the week and they'd be thrown out.And seeing as > alan titchmarsh was a one time crush of mine (i kid > you not. too many lonely summer evenings when my > folks were on holiday.) I decided to buy some and be > kind to them, and not throw them out til they die.I > also came to the conclusion that seeing as we have a > sinister crush list (oooh! so sweeeet!!) w! > hy! > > don't we have a boring bastard list? then we > could really get our handbags out and vote! and I > think somehow, more people might contribute to that. > And voting for yourself would be permitted. It could > be highly amusing. Honmey sending out messages > saying "someon thinks you're a boring bastard!". > even more amusing would be if you vote for each > other. then you'd both think the other was a boring > bastard, and there would be no misunderstandings. > I'd vote for myself, you know. All in favour say > "aye! yer a boring bastard!" and raise their > hands....Finally, A crush! on me! but who?? Its not > my boyfriend (careful and unsubtle questioning of > the chap in my life led me to this discovery.) And > rather than totally embarrass myself and vote for > every one (which, would take forever) until I > discover this charming darling, would the delightful > party please step forward? I am a very curious > creature you know!Excuse the overdose of whatever > tweeness might be spilling. I'm wearing my happy! > t! > > op today y'see.Love Idleberry > kiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskis > > > > > visit the idle > site:http://www.geocities.com/idleberry > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > > --0-719885386-949920801=:3217 > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > > > > well, where to begin? > > first of all, i didn't realise anyone was really > discussing Stuart david's alleged leave from b+s. > maybe I wasn't paying attention. it does go in, all > your words of wisdom or silliness, but whether it > pops out again or doesn't stick as well as chewing > gum to hair (unpleasant high school memories.....) > is another matter. > > > > I am feeling delightfully cheerful today. Fell in > love with my boyfriend all over again at the weekend > (he always does this to me for some reason). > > > > bought myself some lilies. I used to work in an > office, where fresh lilies were delievered each > week, but then they'd just start to open at the end > of the week and they'd be thrown out. > > And seeing as alan titchmarsh was a one time crush > of mine (i kid you not. too many lonely summer > evenings when my folks were on holiday.) I decided > to buy some and be kind to them, and not throw them > out til they die. > > > > I also came to the conclusion that seeing as we > have a sinister crush list (oooh! so sweeeet!!) why > don't we have a boring bastard list? then we could > really get our handbags out and vote! and I think > somehow, more people might contribute to that. And > voting for yourself would be permitted. It could be > highly amusing. Honmey sending out messages saying > "someon thinks you're a boring bastard!". even more > amusing would be if you vote for each other. then > you'd both think the other was a boring bastard, and > there would be no misunderstandings. I'd vote for > myself, you know. > > All in favour say "aye! yer a boring bastard!" and > raise their hands.... > > > > Finally, A crush! on me! but who?? Its not my > boyfriend (careful and unsubtle questioning of the > chap in my life led me to this discovery.) And > rather than totally embarrass myself and vote for > every one (which, would take forever) until I > discover this charming darling, would the delightful > party please step forward? I am a very curious > creature you know! > > > > Excuse the overdose of whatever tweeness might be > spilling. I'm wearing my happy top today y'see. > > > > Love > > Idleberry > > > > > kiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskis > ===== visit the idle site:http://www.geocities.com/idleberry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Mon Feb 7 13:00:22 2000 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:00:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: if the KIDS are UNITED... Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69F056C3@park_ex> aw, ello babies how are you all getting on? I'm feeling a bit wibbly myself, i think i may be coming down with a bad case of ennui (i thought one was meant to get over these things when one was a grown up). lixi (welcome back love) said: When I'm not asleep I'm eating noodles, or hovering *carsmile pictures lixi hovering over finsbury park, coming in to land on the roof of the job centre Can i just confess that until I saw and heard daphne and whatsit on top of the pops i thought that "ooh, stick you" was yer bone fide underground POONK classic, as opposed to pre-pubescent Shampoo/Reynolds girls thang. silly me. and if that starry (or anyone else) mentions YES (or any other prog rock arse (this includes travis)) again in a positive light, I shall personally come and give her (or anyone else) a good slapping (if only to keep alive the flame of Mr 'Opkins who seems to be on a sabbatical), NEVER TRUST A FUCKIN' 'IPPIE That POONK top 10 on channel four was GRATE, especially jimmy pursey in contempary dance farrago and poly styrene in hare krishna conversion shocker (think i was born 15 years too late, i would have made a GRATE POONK *steve puts coke in his hair to spike it up and pogos at his desk) Oh, according to last week's melody maker that Andreas Johnson bloke used to be in GENTLE WAVES. prolly a different swedish one and not our favourite cellist's one, as there's not much injured moose style yodelling or piss poor u2/radioheed impressions on isobel's debut (maybe that's what it's missing). Caroline mentioned belle and sebastian playing at All Tomorrows Parties. Now unless i missed a very important meeting THIS IS NOT TRUE. However, I think everyone should come anyway and if I had lots of money i'd buy all the tickets and we could ALL go and sit in the bar and ignore mogwai and sonic OAPs. hello to all the lovely pocaff people (i want a bootleg, steadymike) xoxo CarsmileSteve I notice that topshop are selling motorhead t-shirts, WHAT THE FUCK'S GOING ON THERE THEN? It'll be AC/DC in Dotty P's next (but enough of my private life, bdum tsch) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk Mon Feb 7 12:00:31 2000 From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk (Elizabeth Daplyn) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 13:00:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: when _I_ were a lad, all we had were a bowl of gravel a day to sustain us Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Mon Feb 7 14:13:21 2000 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:13:21 BST Subject: Sinister: to post or not to post Message-ID: hey kids, i am bored, tired, and hungry, but i can't go home to bed because i have lectures, and i've got no-one to have lunch with me *sniff* so instead i shall bore you lot with my inane ramblings i don't know if you've noticed the same phenomenon where you live, but it seems to me, that as winter drags on the birds (yes, those things that fly) are waking up too early. thats early as in 1:30 am, when any sensible creatures would be asleep. i've never noticed this before which is possibly because i live in a different city now and, being a student i now have more late nights. but still, its making me worry about the state of the world. surely birds shouldn't start singing long before the dawn? or is it just a conspiracy by the bloody things to stop me from going to sleep? if i met anyone on here at lapastiedelabourgeoisie last week, can i apologise hugely, i was very, very drunk, no i mean actually completely wankered and i only have vague memories of what was a fantastic night. ~list abuse~ anyone who is in 'tha area' ie manchester you are cordially invited to my birthday celebrations this thursday at tiger lounge, offers of beer and jaffa cakes gratefully accepted. starting to feel dizzy now, must go and eat, also must remember not to drink on a sunday night, it makes mondays even less bearable. stay beautiful list lovelies, fiona two in two days* - raaaaaaa *i mean posts obviously, or not +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BrnToEnd at xxx.com Mon Feb 7 15:00:35 2000 From: BrnToEnd at xxx.com (BrnToEnd at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:00:35 EST Subject: Sinister: The Queen is Dead(Boo Hoo) Message-ID: <2d.f37b4b.25d03813@aol.com> Hello listees Its Your uncle Damon!, I started at 5:30 AM , woke up then for some odd reason had an urge to read Dylan Thomas poems so I did and I think I'm in a happy mood. Well an hour from now I Won't in school. Oh and it make things more odd I'm listening to Naked Eyes(Thereeee Issss Allllwaaaysss somethinggg theree too remindddd) on mp3. I'm just trying to think If I didn't forget to do any homework but I'm too enchanted by the music and Pysduck on the table to do any work. Ok so I'm also diging this. I see The Cure are playing at the fillmore but are tickets on sale? Am I just seeing things? Well theres always Gomez if that doesn't work even though I am not the biggest Gomez fan but you know its something to do. Oh Dear Manic Street Preachers came on there goes my Happy mood. Anyone Dig The new single? Ok that was irrelavent Today I'm planning to see the neww Woody Allen film and find a good book to read. I haven't read in awhile and I am about to cry. I also want a good cup of tea not that I don't like coffee(I'd go insane without it) but I love a refreshing cup of tea too with a nice book and a yummy treat mmm mmmm Yesterday I got my haircut in a beatles style. My hair was getting so shaggy and long. I felt like John Lennon on the Abbey Road cover and Fridsay I went to Crosby,Still,Nash and Young I really went for Neil Young who is a god. I know have an urge to listen to the yardbirds hmmmm I think I should stop this e-mail now because I'm really at a lost and time is running out. Bye Bye for now, -Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Mon Feb 7 15:28:00 2000 From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:28:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Yo greasy, greasy grandaddy Message-ID: Hello again. I've been pretty lazy recently, but with the calibre of recent posts, I've been inspired to write again. During my hibernation, I've been surviving only on the milk suckled from a vicar's teat and listening to "Oooh, stick you." "Ooh, stick you" is possibly the rudest song I've ever heard. The lyrics go something like "Yo mummy, yo daddy, yo greasy, greasy, grandaddy, lar-di-dar-di-dar, shove it up your fanny". Blimey, mummy would be mortified. I think that "fanny" means "bottom" in American, but it describes a rather more rude, and less tuneful organ in English. I remember when Hulk Hogan was on kid's telly once advertising the seminal movie, Mr Nanny, when he growled at the camera, moustaches a-flying, "I'm Mr Nanny, and I want some fanny." Blimey, mummy *was* mortified. I read something in the Observer, at the weekend, about London towne, which was apparently researched by a mister Nick Dastoor. This is funny, because it hadn't really occured to me that he *actually does* work for a paper. I thought he was probably just making tea and being shouted at to "fetch that broom" or "kick that dog, dirty mongrel". I keep missing letters out, but I'm putting them back in again, don't worry about that. Stevie Pantalon mentioned that Shane Meadows is making a film called "The Stars Of Track And Field". I read that too, in an article about Mr Meadows, where it said that he's been comissioned to make three short films, one for 5000 pounds, one for 50 000 and one for 500 000 pounds. "The Stars Of Track And Field" is the 5000 quid one. Big budget madness! I reckon this is the proceeds from all the jumble sales Struan has ever had. All those bits of plastic add up, you know. Bye Robin x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Mon Feb 7 18:17:59 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 18:17:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Rolling in my own excrement cos it's made of gold Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22B7217B@SERVER1> Hello internet chums, Honey was spot on. I could buy you all, easy. Being a billionaire's a laugh a minute - Over the weekend I philanthropically repaid the national debt of San Salvador, and this morning I bankrolled Osama Bin Laden for the next decade, and on Thursday I'm having Peter Miller flown over to Putney to give me the best oral relief north of the Sierra Nevada. Ah, this is the life... Miss Vicky and I are almost decided on our womantic trip to Venice next month. Free bike hire! My grandmother lives there, in a home, and she likes visitors, and it's a good excuse to impress the missus with my in depth knowledge of both the language and the culture (Mark tries not to snort with derision at his own comment). If any other billionaires are reading, go to my cousin's restaurant next time you're in Venice - it's called the Corte Sconta, it's dear as buggery (though obviously I can afford it) but if you have the readies, sample his caperossoi and peoci and lose yourself in food heaven. There isn't enough gourmet conversation on the list these days, ever since Honey banned Marco Pierre White for calling fellow listee Egon Ronay a c**t. I'm very keen to get some good recipes, and if they have a B&S theme, so much the better - Fox in the Snowpeas, Dirty Cream #2 (hahahaha, stop it, my sides are splitting, no, really) etc. etc. Hope Sweetie's better - I wrote a consoling email last week, but forgot to send it. It happens to us all, honey (small "h")... Massive props to Lixi for getting back on line too. Just thought I'd say that. Mark xxx p.s. anyone else noticed the return of Martin Rissbrook coincides with Villa's upturn in form? Hmm... ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 020 7224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From windisch24 at xxx.com Mon Feb 7 18:24:36 2000 From: windisch24 at xxx.com (mike windisch) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 10:24:36 PST Subject: Sinister: content free Message-ID: <20000207182437.78255.qmail@hotmail.com> hello sinning sisters and maudlin misters. hold on to your hairnets as today's windisch shares a something pretty. The true story of a quasi-poetic image that relieved pain: funny how you never seem to fall doing anything difficult. it's always either some ordinary movement taken forgranted or a cheap little flair added on for ostentation that proceeds a prodigious spill. For the really hard tricks -- like pinballing though sketchy city traffic on narrow streets but still manageing to make the time to turn your head completely off track for a smiling split second of eternity to make eye contact with that fetching green-eyed girl on the corner -- it's as if some inner zen labotomist shuts out all the irrelvances of distracted underconfidence to accommodate a soul-firing stretch of wit, talent and acrobatic acquity. But those things done as a matter of course, like putting your pants on one leg at a time or negotiating a late-night staircase without falling up it, have a hidden yen to enact venegence for their mundanity by sending you sprawling on your keister with an audible sarcastic snicker shot out from the ether. Flash back to the sabbath afternoon skate session. Well rested and tuned in, I am doing things that are not only out of character for me but are not even comprehensible w/out an egghead in advanced physics or a carnival magician's blown-liver. braggadocio aside, i was surpising myself and amazing my friends by riding away from things that by all rights should have sent me to the doctor a whimpering blood-splattered wreck. (foreshadowing) Setting up for something with a backside smith shuffle (sounds naughty, n'est pas), I find myself flying. all is peaceful for a nano-second as gravity helps me negotiate the eight vertical feet between the lip and the flat. After feeling the joy of impact I'm laid out in a crumpled heap. The collective gasp lets me know that the spill looked at least as painful as it felt. I jump up and do that jesus-god-profanity-this-really-explicative-hurts jig that I've been perfecting of late but to no avail. I pull on my coat, exit the indoor park, and take a stroll into the cold. Amid a number of huge piles of dirt, gravel, assorted debris and the ice and mud remains of last week's snowfall, I found a quasi-poetic image that dispelled pain. There was sunlight and frozen wind as flying-V's of geese cut the space between my swelling elbow and the cool blue sky. At my feet, most of the snow had melted, turned the earth to mud, and froze again. But, here and there at regular intervals, strutted the packed snow footprints of the handfull of folks who ventured out between the piles while it was still a winter wonderland. And even though they resembled those step-schematic feet that accompany the printed directions to popular dances like the lindy hop, the boogaloo and the madison, these prints were the only remaining snow. They strode in silent truth like the lasting impressions one makes in life unaware that someone even noticed or will remember you and the things you've done. Of course, to inject the reality-check that is irony's birthright, these particular footprints lead absolutely nowhere. Somewhere in my reverie (which like some taxonomist-wanker-hack-arts-critic called the prints a positive manifestation of the negative space created when some walker puts down tracks in virgin snow)a sense of beauty and poignancy greater that words took over... blissful interlude of holy .... when I started thinking again, the pain was gone. windisch ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ar981611 at xxx.uk Mon Feb 7 19:11:37 2000 From: ar981611 at xxx.uk (Ailsa Ross) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:11:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Debatable interest value in this one, folks... Message-ID: <389F18E9.E3E67C66@student.paisley.ac.uk> I think this may be slightly bending the "don't post unless it's of interest to lots of people" rule as I have no idea whatsoever who is going to be interested in this, but I just thought I should include the general masses in this announcement as it would be quite a long list if I just sent this to the people i thought may be interested, and I'd probably miss someone out and they'd be offended. Anyway, what I want to tell you is that (and I know this is going to break some hearts, ha ha) on Saturday night I agreed to get married. To a bloke who doesn't like Belle and Sebastian. At all. But I don't care one little bit about the shortcomings of his taste in music cos he is a lovely bloke. Which is obvious really or I wouldn't be marrying him. Eek. I feel all grown up now. I have a fiancé. It's like having a pension, or a mortgage. Or responsiblities. No wonder people want to remain kids forever. I'd like to say something else so that the rest of you who don't even know me will think I am great and witty and stuff, and not just the sort of person who mails to tell you dull personal things you don't give a toss about, but I have nothing to say. You'd know it was a lie anyway, as you're all dead good at reading the archives and stuff. Do you think Stuart would sing at my wedding? Ailsa xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox at xxx.com Mon Feb 7 20:12:19 2000 From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 20:12:19 GMT Subject: Sinister: It was telepathic, no other explanation Message-ID: <20000207201219.86508.qmail@hotmail.com> 'The lies you tell in Liverpool', sings Lloyd Cole on 'Fool You Are' (1999), 'will follow you to Spain'. I think that this is a reference to burly Welshman John Toshack. However, my friend Bob Quine insists that the sense involves the stocky England supremo himself, Kevin Keegan. Which of us is right? Come on, sinister! Please resolve the unwonted ambiguity and let us patch up our friendship, which has been heavily strained by the disagreement. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Mon Feb 7 20:29:54 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 20:29:54 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: * Once upon a time there was a little girl called Fubble who Message-ID: STORYTIME I once had someone ask me to beg people to use the Subject line in emails to the list sensibly, i.e. give an indication of the content. This struck me as 1. impossible to do usually, and 2. like asking for the moon on a stick(c) and so I'm striking out in the other direction. It's always struck me how interesting the presence of "Subject:" is in email communication, as we now use emails to communicate as a medium somewhere on the continuum between real speech and letters, and in neither of these cases does the medium require us to sum up the content we've made in a single line. I guess it's an interesting hang over from the early days when embryonic email was seen as a rather distant form of communication like waving flags or like a formal office protocol. I quite like the way we're still saddled with it, and the different protocols we adopt when we fill in (or choose not to fill in that pesky "Subject:" box). Honestly, I could talk for hours about this with even bigger and posher words. Instead I've decided to try using the Subject: line to tell a mass Sinister story. Here, I've started it above. If anyone wants to join in next time you post (and you'll be shot if you send a mail JUST for the sake of the Subject line!), start your line with a little star like me. Not a little star like me, the only time I've been on TV was when I was 8 for two seconds, no, a little star like wot I did. Then if you keep all the messages from Sinister in a folder you'll be able to read a little story down the page! Then I can put it in the Sinister library! Then we can publish it! Look, stop laughing, it seemed like a good idea when I started typing it. Oh and no cheating with huge long Subject lines, you're only allowed one line in your mail reader, which should be less than 60 letters, each time you post. Great art usually comes from a highly restrictive set of starting criteria, like those people who make models of ocean liners from lollipop sticks. Fubble's lonely, please help. BRITS BOING I see the Brit Awards (http://www.brits.co.uk/) have changed their voting policy since last year's interesting non-Sinister related results. It seems that they've been keeping a close eye on Sinister though, because like the List Crush, which used to be run via WWW votes like the 1999 Brits voting, they've moved to an email-verified system. I'm wondering if (a) you can vote for yourself if you're a member of S Club Seven, and (b) they match you up if two bands vote for each other. Miss Crush tells me she's matched up 10 couples on Sinister now, and I'm debating asking Damon, our Body Part Enforcer, to introduce a rule that any couple so matched must send a close, out-of-focus bodypart photo of them both conjoined. Shh, they could be touching ears. TOP OF THE POPS We seem to have suddenly become dead popular, like flares. We've just exceeded the 1200 mark of subscribers today, after hovering spookily around 1150 for about 4 months, which always struck me as odd, bearing in mind the constant flux of subs and unsubs. Has someone been putting something in the water? Hello everyone in the nursery, it's so packed out just now I don't know if I've got enough milk cartons, but I'll do my best. I've also been sent a stack of photos today so they're up too, including a few bodyparts. Nothing has quite eclipsed Tummy-02 yet, although I've been promised a picture of someone naked on a motorbike. Does the leather run smooth on the passenger seat, I wonder? Why isn't there a Toe-01 yet? There's also quite a few new faces on the other pages, and a couple of babies that quite make me gurgle. Look for the big border round new photos. TINGALING Wedding bells - congrats Ailsa! Would you like me to take your contribution out of the Bodyparts gallery now in case the inlaws see? Oops. Honey x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grey7 at xxx.net Mon Feb 7 20:24:59 2000 From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:24:59 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Kissing Mister Quimper Message-ID: <00a701bf71a9$6a749460$61381fce@default> Hello Sinister Siblings! A bit of B&S buisness first and then the useless stuff. Having listened to the Black Sessions and some other Live stuff I'm even more impressed than ever with the group. The live stuff sounds *perfect*, not a small achievment as I'm usually disappointed in most bands upon seeing them live. *sigh* Now if I could only see them live instead of just hearing them. Century of Fakers and Sleep the Clock around from the Black Sessions are amazing versions, I almost can't listen to the CD versions of those songs anymore. The mid-song piano rif in Sleep the Clock Around from the Black Sessions gets me every time. Of course, I was able to hear Paper Boat for the first time. Would anyone happened to have Paperboat tabbed or chorded out? It's not up at the Sinister chord page. I can usually do a half-decent job of chording a song out but I'd trust somelse's version better. Lotsa bootleg stuff on ebay I notice, the last Black Sessions video I saw on there was going for well over $100, which strikes me as excessive no matter how much you like the band. Missed the SNL B&S interlude, who knew SNL was worth watching anymore? Listened to The Magnetic Fields Wayward Bus and Distant Plastic Trees for the first time yesterday and now I'm hooked and I've fallen in love with Susan Anway's voice. Most of you listees are prolly already familiar with The Magnetic Fields, if you're not than march right out and pick up the Wayward Bus/Distant Plastic Trees album. It's brilliant and I kick myself for not knowing about them prior to this. Oh, I've got the 69 Love Songs collection, but this is far, far better. Also heard a song by the Lucksmiths and am now busy hunting down CD's by them, if you like B&S then give them a try. I was looking through a friend's copy of Neverwhere by Neil Gaiman and discovered he has the American version while I have the British trade paperback version. The funny thing being that the publisher 'americanized' the accents and references in the NA version of the book. Which cracks me up to no end. I mean, do British publishers fiddle with American works so you Brits can understand our slang and funny accents? Anyways, onward and downward... Joseph had this to say: "We sat around, expounding on the brilliance of Frank Miller and carrying on about whether or not "Watchmen" was REALLY better than "Dark Knight Returns". We're such nerds." Watchmen of course, though V for Vendetta dances widdershins around both of them and Authority and Planetary piss on all of them from a great height while the Invisibles look on. This is the Sinister list dear boy, we're all twee nerds, didn't you read your contract? (well, except Mark. Billionaires can't be nerds, they're absolved of that the lucky bastards) Oh, and props to Rachel for writing a very true and very sad post. Your recommended reading: Riverrun Trilogy by S.P. Somtow In the CD player on repeat: Magnetic Fields-Wayward Bus/Distant Plastic Trees Be Sinister children... Jim "We're all out there somewhere, waiting to happen"-Jeff Noon, "Vurt" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Mon Feb 7 20:41:57 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:41:57 -0500 Subject: Sinister: B&S Bowlie Set Broadcast Again Message-ID: <200002071542_MC2-982A-33D3@compuserve.com> Hi! On BBC Radio 1's Lamacq Live 10pm - 11 pm tonight. Also on internet I guess, something starting with www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/ Oh, & remember kidz, no home taping :) Or you could listen to some pumping D&B like Skab Alliance's amyl nitrate instead, coz its bluddy grate & the first thing Stephen & I have *both* liked in ages Welcome back Miss Lixi, & lend Sarah The Yes Album next. I think Yes went down the pan when Wakeman joined, despite the fact that he's a top bloke who can drink like a Sinisterine. That ATP is looking more'n'more attractive every week & I REALLY want to go now. I just can't afford it. SING JIA YOO EEE SING NEE HUAG CHAI David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Mon Feb 7 21:20:39 2000 From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:20:39 -0500 Subject: Sinister: * lived in a big soapy bubble. She... Message-ID: <200002072118.QAA05922@s1.nassau.cv.net> ok. um. i'm sorry dears, i was going to post after reading all of your lovely messages, but i wanted to get my little story message in before anyone else, so that i could be the best. "we work the hardest to be the smartest", says john and john (spot the reference!), but not me. i'm lazy, i think. no, i'm not lazy, though. i just have add. here's a tip for everyone: add doesn't mean you're stupid, and it doesn't mean you're lazy. it just means that it can sometimes be -impossible- for a person to concentrate, which is incredibly frustrating for a boy like me who likes to read. i'm back on meds though now, and i just had some and some coffee, so i'm all set to do my bio homework now. i got a crush, too! i really want to know who it is, so if you tell me i'll be happy, even though it might be against the rules. don't worry, i've already sent in my crush, so i won't vote for you and get a fake matchup, it's okay! but whoever did vote for me, i love you - so- much, you make me a happy boy. so here's a kiss for you, on the house: *mwah*! ah, i love this place. - adam aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mcpuckett at xxx.com Mon Feb 7 22:01:28 2000 From: mcpuckett at xxx.com (#M. P.) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 22:01:28 GMT Subject: Sinister: Clientele in NYC Message-ID: <20000207220129.54923.qmail@hotmail.com> First off, props for bringing up the idea of a culinary threade, whomever that might have been. I promise in the near future to contbribute excellent recipies for A Century of Lord Anthony Truffles, and Creme Brulee de la Bourgoise (notable for its use of a torch) if anyone's interested...upon reading said suggestion, thoughts on food struck me as a cracking antidote for the possible dangers of electronic communicaton (nevermind that i seem to have missed lunch *again*). Anyhoo, knowing that there is at least 1 NYU person reading this, I'm looking for info @ the Clientele show there Thurs. Is it possible to get advance tix? Anything you know would be helpful, as I can't make it until late, and I really don't want to miss them... a quick thanks also for the fine posts that keep my inbox bulging, whatever that's worth. I can't possibly keep up, but I acqire a new crush every time I try... xx m/p ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Mon Feb 7 22:39:15 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:39:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Everybody's Trying To Sell Us, Another 60's Retro Record Message-ID: <200002071739_MC2-9825-7F6E@compuserve.com> Yo! Sorry for this twice in one night stuff, but it doesn't happen very often. I may have missed this appearing earlier whilst in my Sinister Space Invaders type flipping of the delete key period, but a couple of eNeMeEs ago our Stevie Jackson had this to say about the new Where Two Eyebrows Meet album: “I liked it. I kind of wanted to like it. I loved Oasis when they came out, especially the first record. I never got the third album because I heard it was all cocaine and guitar solos so it didn't really appeal to me. This new one was quite enjoyable. The songs are OK but I enjoyed the record for Liam's voice mainly. Noel scuppers a few of the songs because he cannot resist throwing his references everywhere. The first tune had a bit of ‘Voodoo ChileÂ’ in it and one of them had ‘Roadhouse BluesÂ’ by The Doors and ‘Something In The AirÂ’ by Thunderclap Newrnan. The whole album seems to have an obsession with 1968 or '69 but it still sounds OK. I was led to believe that Liam's song was really twee and horrible - even worse than some people imagine Belle & Sebastian to be - but I thought his vocal transcended that. Obviously, itÂ’s just another Oasis album really but I do think theyÂ’re back on the right track a wee bit and the songs are a bit better. It has all got less interesting since the second album but I liked it just because it was another Oasis album and itÂ’s enjoyable for what it is.” So there you are then. I'm at it too, as I succumbed to the lure of The Who box (not slip-cased) set the other day coz the Megawhores had it knocked down in their sale. Maximum R'n'B indeed. What did Honey lick that gave him oral thrush? I hope it wasn't poor Rebecca the Sheep - chocolate's really hard to get out of her wool. Bye now, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Tue Feb 8 01:07:14 2000 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 20:07:14 EST Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: <2d.fa6f48.25d0c642@aol.com> When Hollywood finally gets around to making a "modern rendition" of F. Scott Fitzgerald's "The Great Gatsby," how much would you pay to see Britney Spears as Daisy? Nothing? Ok, just making sure we're all on the same page... No one has said whether the new B&S album has been completed, so I guess that means they're STILL at it. This is going to be an epic record I imagine! I mean, seriously, how long has the recording been for this album...5-6 months of straight work? It was supposed to be done in June, then September, then October, then November, then January, now at least February which means it won't be out until at least May...Ye Gads! It'll all be worth it though when the record is done and we can all hear Struan's take on "For Those About to Rock (We Salute You)." I know that this little tidbit hasn't hit the rumor mill yet, but let's just say I'm "in the know." Ok, I'm really not and I made that entire thing up...but I'd still like to see it. Apparently we have two future bridge-hoppers in our midst, which makes for some very interesting talk. I do the same thing, but only with curbs like I dare myself to just totally hop the curbs on the side of...oh God that sound lame compared to bridge jumping. I'm not even going to finish that idea... Someone voted for me in the list crush polls recently. Please people, if you only knew my sorry ass rating in on-line chess, I'd be shunned like a leper. I used to be quite a monster on the school team, but now the magic is gone. My Najdorf Sicilian is as sterile as Quentin Crisp. How sad. Where did someone hear that B&S are playing ATP? Wow, if thats true those tickets will go like mad! I really hope they play that or Glastonbury this year (which I hear will feature REM and the Flaming Lips). When was the last show B&S played, like April or May or something? It's got to be close to a year right? I like Honey's idea of the story in the subject lines...this ought to get interesting right quick. Jeopardy's on...I like Alex Trebek 1. e4 Steve C. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Which Paul?" "BLAH!" visit http://callowkids.tripod.com or your crush will hate you forever +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Tue Feb 8 01:09:49 2000 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 20:09:49 EST Subject: Sinister: *...guzzled straight rum and yelled "Up... Message-ID: <65.178c2ae.25d0c6dd@aol.com> When Hollywood finally gets around to making a "modern rendition" of F. Scott Fitzgerald's "The Great Gatsby," how much would you pay to see Britney Spears as Daisy? Nothing? Ok, just making sure we're all on the same page... No one has said whether the new B&S album has been completed, so I guess that means they're STILL at it. This is going to be an epic record I imagine! I mean, seriously, how long has the recording been for this album...5-6 months of straight work? It was supposed to be done in June, then September, then October, then November, then January, now at least February which means it won't be out until at least May...Ye Gads! It'll all be worth it though when the record is done and we can all hear Struan's take on "For Those About to Rock (We Salute You)." I know that this little tidbit hasn't hit the rumor mill yet, but let's just say I'm "in the know." Ok, I'm really not and I made that entire thing up...but I'd still like to see it. Apparently we have two future bridge-hoppers in our midst, which makes for some very interesting talk. I do the same thing, but only with curbs like I dare myself to just totally hop the curbs on the side of...oh God that sound lame compared to bridge jumping. I'm not even going to finish that idea... Someone voted for me in the list crush polls recently. Please people, if you only knew my sorry ass rating in on-line chess, I'd be shunned like a leper. I used to be quite a monster on the school team, but now the magic is gone. My Najdorf Sicilian is as sterile as Quentin Crisp. How sad. Where did someone hear that B&S are playing ATP? Wow, if thats true those tickets will go like mad! I really hope they play that or Glastonbury this year (which I hear will feature REM and the Flaming Lips). When was the last show B&S played, like April or May or something? It's got to be close to a year right? I like Honey's idea of the story in the subject lines...this ought to get interesting right quick. Jeopardy's on...I like Alex Trebek 1. e4 Steve C. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Which Paul?" "BLAH!" visit http://callowkids.tripod.com or your crush will hate you forever *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Which Paul?" "BLAH!" visit http://callowkids.tripod.com or your crush will hate you forever +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From modpopstar at xxx.com Tue Feb 8 01:38:14 2000 From: modpopstar at xxx.com (Leyla McNickle) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:38:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: "Girls go with Message-ID: <20000208013814.6879.qmail@web303.mail.yahoo.com> We are together again... But alas, I am under the weather and Leyla is above it all... (Leyla needs to begin, care to do the honors?) Leyla: No, I don't want to do the honours, but I guess since you have just run across the room.. I must. Hello. I would like to begin by apologizing for my last two posts. I am not a sad bedsit poet type...and I am not in need of Prozac either... Sarah:(interrupting rudely) Leyla is in desperate need of anti-depressants as she is a bedridden poetess.... Leyla: Sarah is need of some Psychiatric drugs as well, but we wont go into what those are... (haha, teasing of course) Anyway. Yes. I am now not sad about Boys or anything. I am ready to prance and ponce about the city...happily, independantly, and drunkly. :) Thanks to all those who wrote me nice reassuring letters though... very sweet *hugs* all around! Sarah: How can Leyla be sad about boys when she has me? ("who needs boys when there's Lisa around?" teehee)As Valentines Day rapidly approaches, the biggest date night of the year, we will go out and flaunt our single status to the world! So there! (Leyla is reading a 17 magazine article about "How to Snag a Boy!" Throwing all of her previous assertions out the window!) I am currently obsessing about my lack of a job, any help? Maybe I should actually look for one? The horror... ("Do cliques rule your life?" Quiz is being read out loud by Leyla...accentuated by dramatized teenage giggles. "A) call your crew...you *always* coordinate outfits." --Strangely enough despite the fact that Leyla is practically a full foot taller than me, we do often dress the same, we both had red hair at the same time, and now we are both sporting darker hues. Hmmm.. I scored under the "Friends Forever" category...which doesn't mean anything considering I made up the answers...) Leyla: I would just like you kids to know that I wasn't reading Seventeen magazine for pleasure, the copy belongs to my roommate..and I thought reading it aloud to Sarah would be quite a laugh. Hmph. My literary tastes are a bit classier than that...like oh, messages in Fortune Cookies! :) No, i am putting myself down. Just for your enjoyment though. I do lots of odd things for enjoyment. Last night, I couldn't fall asleep...so I got onto a "punk rawk, ska" shitty chatroom.. and started pretending that I was a 26 year old male..with a speed addiction...who used to be in These Animal Men...and of course no one knew who These Animal Men are...but it was funny..because they would go to my website.(which was for These Animal Men)..look at it..and say that it was great I was kicked out of the band..because we all look like a bunch of "faggots". How charming! Anyway. What can you expect from a chat room full of people who think the words "gay" and "pussy" are the meanest words in the world! argh! how Annoying...They kept saying things like "Greenday rock!" to which I would reply "Belle & Sebastian are so hardcore!!" or something silly like that.... anyway. Nothing like Jeepster chat... I talked to someone who used to be in Menswe at r...hehe...but thats a secret! :) Sarah: Did I mention I am under the weather? Cause I am...swimming in a sea of sinus pressure. Don't bash TAM, glam rock has it's high points... (Leyla is running about in and out of the room) I am on Jeepster chat more than I care to admit these days, being unemployed and all... And that is where I go when I can't sleep. Farewell B&S fans, It is nice to know that you are all out there in the world... Cheers, Sarah sarahduston at yahoo.com Leyla: Well. I've finished making a fool out of myself... So, till later then? I am sure I will have senseless ramblings stored up for the next installment...of. SARAH + Leyla= Coolness. Love and Poison... leyla modpopstar at yahoo.com "She's much too tall for a boyfriend" (my special rendition) Sarah: **and to think actually no sexual innuendo of any kind, whilst the rest of sinister is getting down and dirty...we have cleaned up our act. p.p.s LEyla: well in that case...Sarah and I got back together....hehe. Till another "Dirty Weekend".. :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lost_madflowr at xxx.com Tue Feb 8 03:34:52 2000 From: lost_madflowr at xxx.com (lost madflowr) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:34:52 PST Subject: Sinister: *Up and Away, are my panties showing?...[and also zines] Message-ID: <20000208033453.18087.qmail@hotmail.com> "last night on the mass pike i fell in love with you..." mass pike [get up kids] i'm falling back in love with sinister [or sinsietr if you're stu d.]. i read a whopping 10 posts today! well two were from steve c., but anyways. SNL + B&S: the motions that will farrell made were hilarious in that skit. cripes! b+s being played in the background actually made me spring to my feet and yelp, "ohmygod they are playing belle and sebastian!" and my brother said something to his friend like, "my sister only likes bands no one has ever heard of." ha! he also says the same thing about my favourite movies. oh well. he listens to the dixie chicks and dmx. HANDCLAPS: i love handclaps. get up kids have lovely hand clap parts in some of their songs. kissing book too! 'ZINES: beikoku ongaku and sally tomato were recommended by miss courtney tonight after i asked for some suggestions. now i am going to ask you. what do you think? i am in *dire* need of some good 'zines these days. i need some inspiration. if you do a 'zine please oh please tell me. *especially* if you do a music/personal 'zine cos those are my fave kinds. okay. but really. please help me out! cos i really need some suggestions for some to order cos it's been awhile since i've traded or bought zines. help! help! "S-O-S it's very emergency" thanks tpr. PARAGRAPH HEADINGS: are not for me. time to switch back to maddy mode. so is anyone in the dc area up for this bowling we keep on talking about? join the dc/va/md/ pa mini-sinister list if you want to meet up at shows or whatnot. picnic time soon? anyways to subscribe go to sinisterdc.listbot.com and then you will get like a mail a month or maybe a few more if we actually get around to planning something. i dunno about anyone else but i am quite excited to hear that travis are going to be opening for oasis 'cept i would rather see travis in a tiny little club. poop! oh well. btw. if you do want to suggest a 'zine, please send me ordering info please. i'd like to pay around $1-$2 for a 'zine. okay. um that's about it. but if you kids want to listen to nice tunes on a thursday from 3 pm til 5 pm, check out my show the madflowr hour[s] on http://wgmu.gmu.edu [this is eastern standard time]. that's about it methinks. thanks kiddies evol, maddy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Tue Feb 8 06:52:39 2000 From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 01:52:39 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Maybe! Maybe! Maybe! In-Reply-To: <20000206191117.80715.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <200002080650.BAA04989@s1.nassau.cv.net> i don't know if i'm too late to throw in a YES reference, but YES, they used to be my favorite band ever. ok, YEAH, it's really embarassing, and i've since moved on to -far- more sensical things, but i don't have the heart to sell my old cds on ebay... the very first YES song i ever heard was heart of the sunrise, and it's still my favorite, just because it's a great song. so make fun of me. i make fun of mYSElf for it, anyway. it's silly. they are crap, sure, and jon anderson is a right foppish new-ager, but everyone sheds a tear for their first band... even those who liked oasis. yeah, you know who you are. - adam aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erica.macarthur at xxx.com Tue Feb 8 12:44:27 2000 From: erica.macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:44:27 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Girls who tell tales of boys, and graze their knees Message-ID: <009b01bf7232$5fcf0fc0$9947063e@default> Dear Lot, Hurrah, Lixi is back! and eating noodles! I'm not allowed to do that because I'm on that diet where you don't eat any carbohydrates. Don't worry, I saw it on THIS MORNING with Richard and Judy so it's all above board. Apparently you can eat as many sausages as you like so long as you don't eat any rice. Leya, or was it Sarah said: > I talked to someone who used to be in > Menswe at r...hehe...but thats a secret! :) I saw the best looking member of menswear in Carnaby street once, he looked a bit scruffy. I heard the drummer was working in Shelleys on Oxford street until he had a strop at an Italian man who wanted some snakeskin loafers and promtly got sacked. Look kids, Jeepster chat is evil. Everyone knows the cool cats hang out in IRC's original. > >And the other night I 'met' Erica at the Jeepster site. She offered to > write some words for this song, Dammit! foiled. Dear god, if people are turning to me for songwriting advice, something must have gone very, very wrong somewhere. Last week, I was in some silly bar in Soho, and Nigel Kennedy showed me where the toilet was. I almost expected Jeremy Beadle to jump out of the shadows, complete with clipboard and mack and shout "ha HA!". Sarah said: >Leyla is practically a full foot taller than me, we do often dress the same, Me and my much-noted friend Hannah Doll have quite the height difference as anyone who came to the poetry cafe in the summer will vouch, too. She is a wee and delicate thing, and I am a bit tall and clumsy (but watch me *dance*). We both have vintage sweaters with hoods on with different american football teams advertised on the front. Hers is clearly too big for her, it being made for a big American football type playing man, and mine is for a child aged 7/8 years old ("the label on her jeans...") and is obviously a bit small for me. We do look a pair. Okay, big up to all the frankly WONDERFUL people who have sent pictures to me for the new Sinister 'Your Slip Is Showing' Gallery. I have them all printed out and stuck on my wall with blu-tak next to my other pin-ups as a tempory measure before we get the real thing put up. I await a few more entries with baited breath. Please remember my electronic mail is steam-powered and has a bit of a tiz at anything which isn't in jpg format. Wow, Ailsa is getting married. Do we all get an invite to the ceremony? Erica x Arrivals and Departures in The House of Scarlet http://www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com Tue Feb 8 13:07:14 2000 From: Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com (Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:07:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: ring, ring, it's 7am Message-ID: <8025687F.0046E418.00@gbemea05.emea.jwt.com> You lot, ("What?") Don't stop, give it all you've got. In Shane Meadows' latest, "A Room For Romeo Brass" (Kes meets Psycho, by way of Alan Partridge), B&S are namechecked immediately before Steps in the credits (for Fox In The Snow, the instrumental break of which appears at a tear-jerkingly poignant moment). I can't help feeling that B&S friendly Meadows did this on purpose. When "Belle and Sebastian" and "Jeepster" went crawling up the screen, a good 5 minutes into the closing credits, I clapped politely, and someone clapped too! Were *you* the fellow clapper?? I couldn't see, it being dark, and my eyes brimming with joyful tears... Of course they may have been applauding Steps. Such horrors *do* exist, you know. There's lots I wanted to comment on: yes, Fiona, the birds are singing as if it's spring, in glorious empathy with the lately revitalised sinister list. Sinister chicks awaken as the weather warms (rise, heart! raise the roofbeams!); Greig wrote: >"various" members of B&S have contributed to Stuart D's baby which put all sorts of unholy thoughts into my little head; And Scarlet, when can we visit your gallery of Sinister glamour? I hope everyone is sending her pics of their most glamorous clothes. I also hope a certain vintage red leather jacket will be included amidst the rhinestone encrusted cardigans and silver lamé y-fronts. I'm going now. Those pesky kids are throwing stones at my window again. Why won't they let me be? J. D. Salinger --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "you take a really sleepy man, Esmé, and he always stands a chance of again becoming a man with all his fac - with all his f-a-c-u-l-t-i-e-s intact" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vibrosheep at xxx.net Tue Feb 8 13:20:50 2000 From: vibrosheep at xxx.net (vibrosheep at xxx.net) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 13:20:50 Subject: Sinister: Naked Chef ? I Hope he washed his hands.... Message-ID: <200002081327.NAA17190@mailhost.vivao.net> AUTO WINDSHIELDS TROPHY. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark C - >There isn't enough gourmet conversation on the list these days, ever >since Honey banned Marco Pierre White for calling fellow listee Egon >Ronay a c**t. I'm very keen to get some good recipes, and if they >have a B&S theme, so much the better - Fox in the Snowpeas, Dirty >Cream #2 (hahahaha, stop it, my sides are splitting, no, really) >etc. etc. Egon Ronay - wasn't he one of the Ghostbusters ? He was a c**t. PIT PONIES. ~~~~~~~~~~~ Ever since my return from Thailand I've tried me culinary hand at a bit of Thai cooking, primarily because I can no longer taste normal food. Saturday saw me entertain the new Pit Pony for the first time so I thought I'd impress Er with a bit of me newfound Eastern promise. Imagine my laughter when on trying me Tom Yam Goong she choked, vomited and collapsed as Er mouth exploded in a ball of flame. THAI NEWS. ~~~~~~~~~~ Thai postmen are all bastards. Piss typical, send presents out by the preverbial sackful, and they don't fucking turn up. It's all down to that new bloody system whereas you actually have to state on the parcel what you are sending. It's not my fault I had to ask the lady behind the counter how to spell H E R O I N and what she thought it's street value was. MORE THAI NEWS. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Did you know sales of Thai Fish Sauce have risen four-fold in this country since Delia used it on her programme ? I read quality papers me. THIS IS JUST A CARDAMON POD SONG. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Fin. VS (OSU) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Tue Feb 8 13:49:17 2000 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 05:49:17 PST Subject: Sinister: this bed is on fire with passionate love Message-ID: <20000208134917.23116.qmail@hotmail.com> ....I WISH!!!!!!!! haidiho babies...long time no write. "gee,thanx for da vote!!!" i mean,SOMEONE HAS ACTUALLY VOTED FOR ME!ME!M-E!these things don't happen.(ok,between you and me.there's no one else here...WHO ARE U?) do i sound like a desperate chick or what?(small detail,says the angel over my shoulder-u know,little zoe/devil on the one side,little zoe/angel on the other-BUT U R ....!TSK TSK TSK...) there is this cartoon back home and it features this really cheeky female cat-Lucretia-who is sexually frustrated-no sex for ages....-and her only company is this castrated male cat...Castrato...so,her motto is DESPERATELY AVAILABLE. oh my,i cannot believe i am making a fool of myself in frond of 1200 people!!!!!!(yeah,right!) i've been angry the past days but you don't care... i got very drunk on saturday.one of my friends describes qutie vividly my condition:"zo,i haven't seen u like that.you were pissed as a fart...".tanx neil! what i know is that i was extremly hungry,so i bought some chips which i couldn't eat,so i'm on the night bus,"pissed as a fart" squeezing the chips on my chest and i wouldn't let go.got home,and ate them.cold.pathetic.yer.... for days now i've been thinking about a good few tangs to write on the list but now...hmm... i am in a really cheeky mood...my friend has gone to Amsterdammmmmmmmmmmmmmmm and io sono jealous....is it really middleaged(no offense) that i'm going to ...canterbury? oh,yer sth else,i found out about a cruel and vulgar(sic) verbal attack from one listee to another.ok.STOP IT!you disagree?fine,just be polite,i mean i don't think mummy wants her little babies fighting,do you mummy?(hope not....):) soooooooooooooooooo,come on tell me tell me,who voted pour moi?s'ils vous plait...(or sth) it is soooooooo windy outside that i think i will flyyyyyyyyyy-oh,you do know the westlife tune tune "flying without pigs"? so,yer i like this boyzone cover version of 'when the going gets tought,the tough gets going etc'....oh my gawd i'm out....and a friend was utterly disgusted(i bet someone is going to unvote for me now....:)) SO?i ask u.what is music....music frees yer mind...right?i don't care what U listen to even if i don't like it.the thing is,my friend i never said i think boyzone or similar bands are 'great' or 'artist'.they are NOT!!!!!!!!i just like the happy tune...i like happy tunes....i mean i cannot listen to a nick cave song-as much as i like him-when it's hot and sunny outside and i'm on the beach,can i?nope...-i can though listen to b&s...actually b&s are an all-weather band..no really.i mean,it might be storming outside-i will put 'em on-it might be sunny-sunny- i will put 'em on.... see? laura llew,tanx for da letter-even though it was ages ago...you're a fine gal...:) hurreyyyyyyy for bookshops!!!! i was supposed to do a radio rec but no one showed up today!what am i going to do?and i had everything ready.my cd reviews,my book reviews,everything.....:( oh,yer,can i self advertise just this once?tanx. if you leave in the west midlands-esp near wolves,that is-and would be interested to listen to this chick's voice-'cause it's sexy and you know it-tune in this tuesday 15/2(and hopefully every tuesday and thursday)to wcr1351 AM,at 12:30 pm.i am doing a radio show with some frrrrrrrrriends!it's mostly talk radio but,i dunno...if you do,tell me what u think.P-LEASSSSSSSSSSSEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..... tanx babies.... smooooooooooch......... ok.it's time for me to ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuun... cheerio and don't forget:'i've got shomething to tell you,i've got shomething to say.....' luv,zo xxx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Tue Feb 8 13:57:39 2000 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 05:57:39 PST Subject: Sinister: madness... Message-ID: <20000208135739.35781.qmail@hotmail.com> " THE ONLY PEOPLE FOR ME ARE THE MAD ONES,THE ONES WHO ARE MAD TO LIVE,MAD TO TALK,MAD TO BE SAVED,DESIROUS OF EVERYTHING AT THE SAME TIME,THE ONES WHO NEVER YAWN OR SAY A COMMONPLACE THING,BUT BURN,BURN,BURN LIKE FABULOUS YELLOW ROMAN CANDLES EXPLODING LIKE SPIDERS ACROSS THE STARS AND IN THE MIDDLE YOU SEE THE BLUE CENTERLIGHT POP AND EVERYBODY GOES 'AWWW!'." ON THE ROAD-JACK KEROUAC ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Tue Feb 8 15:31:59 2000 From: bfundak at xxx.org (bfundak at xxx.org) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:31:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: My love affair with failure Message-ID: Greetings, I'll try to make this short and painless. This message is spurred by many things; First it was the beautifully written message by Rachel Tucker concerning the all too short life of a relatively unknown footballer, the sort of thing that would make a brilliant novel if handled correctly (but I can't so I won't.) Secondly, the fact that I have been attempting to make mixed tapes for the world (and if you have been promised a tape you know who you are) means that I have not listened to Belle and Sebastian in ages. Finally, my overall dissatisfaction with life has contributed to my need to post to the list and conceivably bore you all to death. I really don't know what I have to complain about--I have a pretty full February ahead; a will Oldham show this weekend, visiting my brother for his birthday, seeing Kids in the Hall in Chicago. But still in the corner, seducing me--failure. What is it about failure that makes it so seductive? I think that for me anyway, the human ability to try and succeed and yet fail miserably is much more appealing than the salvation offered by believing in Christ. While I know I would horribly ruin my life if I married someone I didn't love, knock someone up or stay in a job i hate for little pay, there is something about failure. Perhaps it is the spectacle--it is so much easier to fail spectacularly rather than succeed spectacularly. Maybe it is because it is easy--it may be better to try and never succeed than to never try at all, but do you have to get up from the couch and stop drinking beer to fail miserably? No, you can fail no matter how much effort you put into it. Maybe it's just that fact that utter failure leads to a loss of expectation. Quitting grad school with 6 hours left to go is the closest I have come to flirting with failure--and now the expectation that i might go back and finish has kind of gone away. (Unfortunately I'm employed by the computer industry and I guess in tech fields there is nowhere to go but up.) I figure if I did knock someone up I didn't love then maybe I wouldn't feel the pressure that comes with being someone who wants to have one of those "traditional" (god, I hate that word) family units (even though they don't exist). But something keeps me grounded. For some reason I don't want to fail. So the question I leave you with is this-- why shouldn't I? Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Tue Feb 8 14:45:07 2000 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 14:45:07 +0000 Subject: Sinister: * The people down below said "Yes Fubble, they are. Why are they soiled so... Message-ID: <8025687F.005130D2.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> >i like the way belle and sebastian have managed to stay loyal to >jeepster...after the brit award thing i imagine most major labels were >foaming at the mouth trying to tempt them away from jeepster... Well I'm not surprised this ploy failed. No one wants to catch rabies. Not even mad dog Murdoch. I think they've given up foaming anyway. The other day Sky News's entertainment correspondent was giving his expert opinions on the Brit nominations. 'The Brit Awards are a funny thing anyway,' he opined. 'I mean do you remember a band that won last year called Belle and Sebastian?' The dream team (old man and glam woman) newsreaders looked blank. 'EXACTLY!' cried the man triumphantly. He went on to compare them to Tasmin Archer and Finley Quaye. Brandt: She knows there's no success like failure, and that failure's no success at all. That Bob Dylan. He's MAD. Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachel at xxx.uk Tue Feb 8 17:19:13 2000 From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:19:13 -0000 Subject: Sinister: ahhh, wedding bells! Message-ID: <002c01bf725a$45109140$701f893e@preinstalledco> hey everyone! firstly CONGRATS to ailsa!! i've never met her but she is my favouritest listee whose posts i always look forward to, so massive props, but you've got to keep it sinister even when you're a married woman y'know. secondly, d'you know i've been on this list on and off for nearly a year (i think) now, and in all that time i've been convinced peter miller and honey were one and the same person! i have absolutely no idea why i thought that, but obviously i did so apologies to you both, and it really is true that you learn something new everyday. which is nice... thirdly and most importantly, my bestest friend alex did the most wonderful thing in the world yesterday so she deserves a big thank you and a mention...not that she'll read this cos she's not on sinister, probably cos she doesn't actually like b&s, but she deserves this anyway. picture the scene: rachel, having just watched the end of gomenghast, is trying to suppress the slight disappointment that the bbc hadn't changed the ending so the evil steerpike had triumphed (well, i always like the baddies best) when the phone rings. it's alex. ' rach, have you got any blank tapes handy?' 'yeah, somewhere, why?' 'b&s are on steve lamacq, i think it's the bowlie set...' 'aaarrrggghhh!!! gotta go. bye!' at which point rachel goes hurtling up the stairs, trips straight over the bloody box full of old tapes that for some dumbass reason she left there last summer that has never got in the way before, and falls BANG into the door. slightly concussed she then staggers into her room, grabs the nearest tape and gets nearly all of the bowlie set! yay! unfortunately she now has a fairly considerable bruise on her forehead...still, the things we do for our loved ones....and i did feel obliged to tape it given that i thought oxford united's relegation battle was more important than bowlie at the time (i was wrong) so i didn't go. what's a bruise anyway! and a slight lump.... worth it though, and i wouldn't have been able to spend today listening to it over and over without alex, so cheers mate! now richard said this: >...( i would >also like to mention the pale fountains and shack and michael and john head >but that is another post on its own! ) i'm assuming here that the guys in shack have therefore been in other bands so could some kind people point me in the direction of some old stuff because everyone in my house is sick of me continually playing 'hms fable' even though it is fantastic. something new on my stereo would be much appreciated. and the lovely nick dastoor said: >I saw Booby Gillespie and Mani on >the TV recently. Bobby was doing his complete stoner act and it was quite >painful to watch. My friend says she knows he's a tit but it doesn't matter. >But it puts me off. I'm not very good at taking bands seriously when their >members are so daft. i was going to restrain myself from commenting on this, cos i can't manage rational sentences where primal scream are involved (there are some who would say that i can't manage rational sentences at all, and they could be right....) but i honestly do believe that the scream's music rises above whatever their band members are actually like. to me the music is far more important than those who create it, most of the time. like take that. i mean everyone knows that gary no mates barlow is a twat, but he still wrote some of my favouritest songs ever, and was a key member of one of The Four Greatest Bands Of All Time (go on, guess the other three...alright then, don't bother), so who gives a shit if he seems one of the most smugly irritating people in the world? i don't have to talk to him do i? and the laws of probability would suggest that at least one member of b&s could be (whisper it) a right old prick. the laws of probability are often wrong though. at least, they were when i took (and failed, and subsequently dropped out of) stats... however, at the same time, those instinctive personal judgements we make of people, and celebrities in particular, do come in handy for the heated debates that are contested in our common room for hours on end to alleviate the boredom. the britney versus christina argument is fierce at the moment. i'm heavily defending britney cos that christina aggywhatsit looks a right old slut, and britney seems quite nice. i think she has the superior marketing team... blimey, my fingers hurt now. well, the two i type with do anyway. lovin' and leavin' you rachel xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Tue Feb 8 17:45:29 2000 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 17:45:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Febuary made me shiver... Message-ID: <38A05639.65BFF90B@cs.strath.ac.uk> Ole! I can't do the accent. I gat soonshine, und a clouody dey Ven it's could autside, I gat ze mounth ov Mey. If we can land a man on the moon, surely we can bring back John Belushi. Now then, what was I saying? Ah, yes. Lixi's back, Ailsa's got engaged (but ISN'T up the spout), everything's right with the world. I feel there's a pretty good chance of Struan singing at the wedding as by the time it eventually happens he'll be an old has-been doing the chicken-in-a-basket holiday camp cabaret circuit, and will take any job that's offered. Sing us the old hits, Stuart! Cat down the pub, la la la... J.D. (does anyone else hate it when they give you that instead of real whisky? And charge you more? Bastards) : > I challenge anyone to relate an anecdote as alarming as Juicy > Luicy's. Alisdair, you're hard, you must have some tales to tell. Well, not being hard at all (in fact being a complete cowardly custard), and being a good-natured soul I have done my best all my life to avoid physical confrontations. The one exception, as seems the trend here, is with my brother, who due to his annoying nature in his formative years (though less so now, thankfully), I would scrap with approximately 14 times a day. Due to me being generally older and bigger, this would usually end up with him being thrown against walls, into the bathtub, out windows etc. We usually get along fine now, as being about the same size (ie not very small) the truth is that instigating a proper fight nowadays would leave both of us with actual real bodily damage, and would probably wreck the house as well. So I'm afraid I have no stories to tell of my hardness. Actually, hang on a minute, there was that time I attacked a nun with a fence post for looking at my pint, but that's really of no interest. I mean I attended the funeral, what more did they want? Mark: > Honey was spot on. I could buy you all, easy. Being a billionaire's a laugh > a minute - Over the weekend I philanthropically repaid the national debt of > San Salvador, and this morning I bankrolled Osama Bin Laden for the next > decade, and on Thursday I'm having Peter Miller flown over to Putney to give > me the best oral relief north of the Sierra Nevada. Ah, this is the life... And that's not all, I'm afraid. Mark can often be seen being driven up and down the streets of London in his pink Rolls, by his driver Porker, throwing digestive biscuits at homeless people and screaming "WHY DON'T YOU ALL GET A JOB, YOU DISGUSTING SMELLY FILTHY PROLES! AND DON'T TRY EATING THOSE DIGESTIVES, I PUT RAT POISION ON THEM!" All the while Porker says "Yes m'lud, of course m'lud. More digestives, m'lud?", before driving Mark back to his luxury apartment in Chipping Peagrove. Some of this may not be true. But he does have a porker in his pink rolls. Jim said billionaires can't be nerds, but did anyone see Bill Gates on TV the other day, joining up with Richard Branson to conquer the world like in Risk or something? Now I'm no fashion expert, but you'd think the richest man in the world could invest in better jumpers. Which reminds me of a joke: Q: What do you get if you cross a sheep and a kangaroo? A: A sound beating. There has been some rather disturbing talk recently of people being tempted to drive cars off bridges/into trees etc, all of which reminded me of the very funny scene in the best movie ever (Annie Hall, like you didn't know) featuring Chris Walken in possibly his first film, and Woody Allen: Duane (Chris): I tell you this because, as an artist, I think you'll understand. Sometimes when I'm driving ... on the road at night ... I see two headlights coming toward me. Fast. I have this sudden impulse to turn the wheel quickly, head-on into the oncoming car. I can anticipate the explosion. The sound of shattering glass. The ... flames rising out of the flowing gasoline. Alvy (Woody): (Reacting and clearing his throat) Right. Tsch, well, I have to-I have t-o go now, Duane, because I-I'm due back on the planet earth. Scott: > I sort of measure > how much I must like the girl in question by how horrible whatever we do is. > I really liked this girl a lot, once. The proof lies in the fact that we > saw "Speed" together. I endured Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bullock for her. Pretty impressive. Why only last summer I endured "Notting Hill" to be with a girl I liked. Are Hugh Grant and Julia Roberts more annoying than Keanu and Sandra? It's close. However, I did get her to come and see "Last Night" with me, so it was almost worth the torture of seeing the floppy-haired one in action. Reading Robin's account of what he think Nick Dastoor does at work has suddenly put the idea into my head of Nick as Mickey Mouse in Fantasia. You should try it, it's very funny. I wish everyone to call him Nicky Mouse from this point onwards, if only for my own amusement. I also have to reiterate the points made by Stevie and Mouse about Wonderland being fantastic. It also has a brilliant soundtrack, which could almost say makes the film. I'm quite excited this week, as I'm finally going to get to see VIC GODARD after months of waiting after his last gig here was cancelled. Also I was called a freak the other night, but in a good way. It left me smiling, anyway. It was because I'd heard of the band the guying talking to me was in, Tacoma Radar. Apparently they were on John Peel last week, I don't know if anyone heard them. Right, enough, the men are here again. Don't they know white coats are out of fashion? Alasdair xx "He's a softly spoken tiger in a sea of pussycats." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ant at xxx.uk Tue Feb 8 15:42:09 2000 From: ant at xxx.uk (Ant Fineran) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 15:42:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: * horribly? Oh wait, it's a picture of Pluto the dog!" Message-ID: <38A03951.B0715D85@fineran.demon.co.uk> Hello, Well, I've succumbed to the brave little He-Man lookalike inside me, as he was constantly saying "post something to Sinister you twat!", and because the computer's been my only company all day. zoe charaktinou wrote: > > it is soooooooo windy outside that i think i will flyyyyyyyyyy-oh,you do > know the westlife tune tune "flying without pigs"? The wind is my favourite weather type! Especially like right now when it's sunny and windy at the same time. However, I believe the westlife song is actually called "flying without wigs", with reference to the comedic effect of toupee-wearing people losing their hair in blustery conditions. I don't want to sound like a freakazoid, but in one of my dreams not so long ago, I was with an old friend who called at George Dickie's house in the woods. We then ran across a field or a park, past a load of people, and got to a line of cars, and I tried to dislodge the wing mirrors of the two cars that I went speeding between. This can only mean one thing: bugger all! Sorry and "ye gads!" to everyone, Ant x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Feb 8 18:34:54 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 19:34:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Get On The Bus, Forget About Jugs, Put The Blame On Me Message-ID: <01bf7263$31cfe460$9f90243e@itjfvkli> Nick Dastoor Way Uh-Huh Uh-Huh I Like It wrote: Maybe this was just a mistyping, but isn't the expression 'shot of me'? I only mention it in case he's gone through his life getting it wrong and wondering why people look at him funny. According to my Talulah Gosh approved dictionary, both are possible. I think Nick's version is the one used by common as muck people, and mine's dead posh. Best wishes to Mr and Mrs Ailsa. Don't forget, there are plenty of married ladies already on the list, and I'm sure they'd be only too willing to help if you have any lingering doubts about what is expected of you on your wedding night. Rachel Tucker wrote: secondly, d'you know i've been on this list on and off for nearly a year (i think) now, and in all that time i've been convinced peter miller and honey were one and the same person! i have absolutely no idea why i thought that, but obviously i did so apologies to you both, and it really is true that you learn something new everyday. No need to apologise, at least not to me. The main difference is, Paul's met Patrick Moore. In fact, Britain's favourite astronomer chased Paul right the way around the narrow gallery that runs under the entire circumference of the dome of...erm...Hubble Observatory, trying to give him a kiss. There was a really powerful light on, trying to spot UFOs in the night sky, and when Patrick Moore finally caught up with Paul, the shadow of the ensuing kiss was projected right across the whole universe, and beyond. FINLAND NEWS Jarkko's lesbian president was on the news last night. Also, 68% of the population of Finland own mobile phones. Some extremists even go so far as to live in a place called Nokia. When I was on holiday at Christmas, one of the neighbours was called Jarkko. Never met him though. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From no_surprises_21 at xxx.com Tue Feb 8 18:58:30 2000 From: no_surprises_21 at xxx.com (Chris Heil) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 10:58:30 PST Subject: Sinister: if you're friends with p. then you're friends with me Message-ID: <20000208185830.72040.qmail@hotmail.com> I really need some new friends...none of them are interested in the bands I am..except for a few B&S followers. But they aren't playing any shows anytime soon, and I want to go to shows now!! Is anyone going to the Beulah/Gomez show next month at the Roseland in NYC? And for the person who mentioned the clientele show...can you please give me some more info on that...it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you all Chris ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ISawUfall at xxx.com Tue Feb 8 22:06:29 2000 From: ISawUfall at xxx.com (ISawUfall at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:06:29 EST Subject: Sinister: CLIENTELE IN NYC (MARCH RECORDS BASH) -- ANYONE Message-ID: <11.f17551.25d1ed65@aol.com> NO B&S content--- cept that clientele have often been cited as the next B&S....of course i think the two bands are incomparable. alas. is anyone on this list going to attend the march records thing on friday....is anyone going to the clientele/ladybugtransistor show at NYU on thursday....if so how does one get tix for it? it would be neat to say hi. -david cass! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From markniciu at xxx.com Tue Feb 8 22:20:06 2000 From: markniciu at xxx.com (Mark Niciu) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 14:20:06 PST Subject: Sinister: 11 Feb - Brownies, NYC - the Clientele Message-ID: <20000208222006.42611.qmail@hotmail.com> Yo Belle and Sebastian list, This is blatant list abuse, so if you don't like that, please hit delete now and read no further! If anyone is interested in chillin' at the March Records 8th Anniversary show on Friday, 11 February, and checkin' out the Clientele, give me a buzz off of Sinista (also check out the Jeepster meetup page at http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian ). Wouldn't you rather check out one of the up and coming bands from the U.K. (along with four other groups from an excellent record label) for $12.25 than shell out $35 listen to that ol' quiff Morrissey (who looks old enough to be my dad and hasn't done anything cool in like a decade!) croon through shitty track after shitty track of "Your Arsenal" and "Maladjusted"? Mark ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jnikolaeff at xxx.au Tue Feb 8 22:59:22 2000 From: jnikolaeff at xxx.au (Radiation Girl) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 09:29:22 +1030 Subject: Sinister: BDO & Gomez...news from South Australia Message-ID: <000701bf7288$2353dac0$6d6bd88f@edu33040.systems.sa.gov.au> Hi everyone, This is officially my third posting - how exciting! Not really, but I just wanted to use and exclamation mark. What the hell !!!! Finally, second-to-last on the list, the Big Day Out visited Adelaide last Friday, and a fine day was had by all. For the small population of SA of around 1 mil - 20,000 young and youngish packed the Wayville showgrounds in 39C heat (almost 103F) to see such drawcards as the Chilli Peppers, Nine Inch Nails, Blink 182, Chemical Brothers & Foo Fighters. I am terribly disappointed to announce there were no other drawcards from the UK which is quite unfortunate as I believe their music is far superior to commercial american crap (no offence intended as I am a self confessed obsessor of foo fighters and Dave Grohl), except for Joe Strummer (Clash) and the Mascaleros, unless Basement Jaxx are UK? (sorry I don't know). Other bands featured were Beth Orton (US), Magic Dirt (AUS-Mel), Spiderbait (AUS-Bris), the Cruel Sea (AUS-Mel) and various locals from Adelaide, such as Seraphs Coal & Embodiment 12:14. This was quite disappointing, as I believe there is much more talent in SA than these Christian bands (yes, they are Christian) and they are friends of mine, so I don't mean offence. My day started drinking beer, and catching the last fifteen minutes of Magic Dirt. (cry :( ). I then caught Blink 182 (unfortunately) and I really don't know what I was doing for the rest of the day until I got to see Foo Fighters & Chemical Brothers. I don't normally get into that type of music, but they were not bad at all. I still have sore legs from dancing. My night ended at Shotz in the city, dancing to smiths and b&s, and thinking what a shame of a day it was, as I didn't really get to see much that I wanted because of the people I was with, and just thankful I didn't get that burnt. Other news - Gomez are touring. They are not coming to Adelaide. I am not impressed. Adelaide always misses out on such things, where as if they don't know, they probably have a bigger fan base here than any other state. Grrrrrr, grrrrrr. I am very cross. I'm not sure that there is anything else I can tell you except it is very hot today as well (36C) and I have lots of work to do so I should go. SWEETIE - how are you? let me know how you're going with your sister. Cheers everyone Juliya "I always cry in movies, it doesn't take that much to move me" - Career Girls +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheeXVirus at xxx.com Wed Feb 9 00:38:45 2000 From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 19:38:45 EST Subject: Sinister: CLIENTELE Message-ID: <4b.1161c27.25d21115@aol.com> Does anyone on here know where I may be able to get Clientele stuff? The only thing I have is a music video, don't know to which song, and the only thing I have seen for sale is a seven inch on the Darla site. I'm in the 'States, so it'd be nice if that's where I could order something 'cause of postage costs and all. - J +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From phs204 at xxx.edu Wed Feb 9 01:03:33 2000 From: phs204 at xxx.edu (Phyllis H Schulz) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 20:03:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: CLIENTELE IN NYC (MARCH RECORDS BASH) -- ANYONE In-Reply-To: <11.f17551.25d1ed65@aol.com> Message-ID: hello.. no i'm not a newbie to sinister..i'm just awfully shy..but i felt the need to reply to this <<...is anyone going to the clientele/ladybugtransistor show at NYU on thursday....if so how does one get tix for it>> i go to nyu and i'm actually on the program board that puts on the shows..tickets for non-nyu will be onsale at the door...tickets for nyu folks are onsale at ticket central.. the show got a nice little write up in time out..it was given a star..they compared the clientele to belle and sebastian..oh well, hopefully, i'll be there to see for myself --phyllis +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From guile at xxx.br Wed Feb 9 03:11:32 2000 From: guile at xxx.br (Guilherme Barrella) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 01:11:32 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Saturday Morning Message-ID: <38A0DAE3.78119922@telnet.com.br> I don't know if you all saw this already but... http://www.yesterdayland.com/saturday/shows/synopsis/764.asp i'm still alive gui ps: this is the first time i'm posting to missprint... i'll write a note in my diary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trollopinpaisley at xxx.com Wed Feb 9 05:28:15 2000 From: trollopinpaisley at xxx.com (Georgine Skeene) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 21:28:15 -0800 Subject: Sinister: *...oh, bother, i'm not wearing any. Message-ID: HELLO SINISTER ARE YOU READY TO ROCK? THe bridge discussion is quite strange. i had to include this bit i had run across just the day before, because it seemed quite creepy to me. it's not often a subject i think about. included: Go to the side of a bridge and look down. It could be any type of bridge, It could expand over anything. There is always an impulse to jump. A little inkling that acknowledges ones ability to land, to smash, to breach, to impede the regular flow of traffic or water or whatever. This is the reason that I would want to be an architect. The structure, by its very function, symbolizes the strength of transition as well as the ability to suddenly wreak havoc on one's self and ones environment. __________________ it's from some guy's page:http://babel.massart.edu/~jenhall/tda319x/hoyt/pages/stateg.html i hope he isnt' on sinister and gets pissed at me for copying that. i just thought it was odd. I realize i dont' recognize many of the faces here. you kids just don't appreciate what you got! back in the day, i was a STAR..... i was 13 on the crush list!! i was TIED with isobel campbell i tell you!!! and now, barely a soul knows. i think i'll sit in a darkened room reading old archives. "Honey mummy, i'm ready for my close-up!!" Thank you to the bloke with the filthy lap, the bloke in the photo "tummy" That was really a pleasant concept....NOT!! was it marie, who mentioned the movie better than chocoloate? i haven't seen that. some girls in my group were talking about it. well, i guess it couldn't be half bad if it has actual lesbians in it. at least it's not Chasing Amy. (dont' write me again about chasing amy, i dont' give a rat's ass!) i met a random b/s fan last week in the caf. i spotted her in a grungy orange tshirt, and wondered vaguely if it was the isobel/fox shirt. no, it coudlnt' be. but i was still curious. so i tried to catch up so i could see. when i got inside, she turned around and was wearing"b/s support the boyne hunt saboteurs" and i dashed over, pointed at the shirt and blurted "Belle and Sebastian!!" and we bonded over lunch. it was very surprising. Of course i had to make her jealous by telling her i had seen them live, and met them. Har. i don't see anyone else round these parts what has ate a apple what stuart murdoch shined, nope nope nope. i apologize profusely for my egomaniacal tirade, and with that i shall leave you. SCUM forever, lesleyjo http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange to the pure, all things are pure--- http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange/buxoms.html ***The Buxoms: Svengali-free since 1998!!*** ______________________________________________________ Sent by FortuneCity Mail at http://www.fortunecity.com Join now and receive 20Mb of free web space and E-mail +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Wed Feb 9 06:00:03 2000 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 22:00:03 PST Subject: Sinister: * That's a rather odd birthmark you have there. Message-ID: <20000209060003.2167.qmail@hotmail.com> It's amazing the silly things you cherish once you have to go without them. Last week (for the first time in a couple of weeks), I finally ventured the roads (that were impassable due to ice and snow) to get out of the house and go to work. It was so good to see people outside of my family again and I realized that I appreciate even the small meaningless phrases that people use commonly. Something as simple as "You make it seem so easy" (except when referring to Blake Hamilton, hehe) is just priceless. While at the bookshop, I was bopping my head along to the great tunes of IYFS (starting at # 3 and skipping the title track so as not to offend anyone). B&S make even work fun. So, then I started making a mental list of places where b&s would not be good to listen to. I didn't think that I would be able to think of many but then I had to stop after number one -- which was in an exercise video. After picturing a peppy blonde Kathy Smith reminding people to breathe along to the sounds of ample sized bum Belle and scrawny Sebastian, well I couldn't stomach it anymore. Of course, I'd rather slit my wrists and do push ups in saltwater than to think of Richard Simmons involved in a b&s aerobic concert. Anyway, I just realized that I still have quite a bit more to say but the topics in no way correlate with each other. From here on out I'm switching to the tres fashionable heading format. **I've Got Rhythm, I've Got Music** I do believe that I am indebted forever to Sinister for music forever. It never fails that if someone from the list has made me a mix tape it is always just ACE. This past week was like Christmas for me. Not only did Jim Gilmer (who is the Tape God. Someone please make that boy an idol) send me Magnetic Fields 69 Love Songs (which is tops) but Angelic Alexander Borgia finally delivered the goods with all of Belle and Sebastian's songs on MP3 format. Oh, it was just too good to be true. Plus, the cd and cd cover were amazing aesthetically. I usually just slap a mix tape together but you kiddies on here make a scratch tape into an art form. **Trends May Change But A Girl's Designs Will Always Stay The Same** Since the posting of the picture that will forever taint my mental image whenever I hear the word tummy, I have switched allegiance from the bodypart page to Miss Scarlett's "Hey Hooch, Your slip ain't the only thing showing" (rough translation). Unfortunately, I hear there haven't been many contributions to this piece of art in the form of a webpage. So, whether it's those tight red fit for a 70's porn film flares, those go-go boots you haven't been able to take off since reading Robbins' "Skinny Legs and All", or those fuzzy leopard print slippers that you wear out to the ABC store get off your clothed bums and send Miss Erica some pictures. I hesitate to wonder if the boy sporting his beautiful pro delgado chest will defect from the bodyparts page. It's so great though it should be at both. **RA RA REE (Is Showing More Than Her Knees)** I hope that all of you have gotten the chance to talk with the lovely Marie Elia (aka Ree, aka Minxy Milkmaid, aka I didn't know you could hike a skirt up that far) . You can look at her picture on the sinister page at http://www.belleandsebastian.org/honey/sinister/people/MarieEliaLittleArsonist.html Isn't she the most adorable looking creature you've ever laid eyes upon? She seems so innocent, so sweet, so darling.. Ha! My sinister friends, this is where you learn the valuable lesson of never judging a book by it's cover. You get a clue when you realize her e-mail address is "little arsonist". It should be a hint to the fact something is awry. But you never know the full extent of what the little minx is capable of until you put her in with a bunch of young impressionable milk maids. She 'whips' out chapter 27 and your whole operation goes to pot. At least, she crochets instead of doing the k word. **Laura's Feeling Just Ideal: (I'm a Libra)** I think we cleared up Iris's pining about no good rhymes for her name with "shy kiss", "pure bliss", and "takes the piss". Even if that doesn't work, Iris, you'll always have the title of a Goo Goo Doll's song. Then Fiona chimes in with no good rhymes for hers either. I couldn't think of any charming ones myself. But be calm, Fiona, you do have a great song by The Gerbils with the charming lyrics of "Fiona smiles and she says my life is like a garbage can. Fiona laughs when she finds out I'm just a boy pretending to be a man." Why that's kind of snappy eh? Oh well. It could be worse. You could be a Laura where you're relegated to the rhymes of 'tiara' and 'whore-a'. Even if you do get a song where they don't rhyme your name with anything the Laura is usually dead (ie "Think of Laura" Even though Laura is dead, it wouldn't be too bad of a song except for it's sung by Christopher Cross), the person who loves Laura dies ("Tell Laura I Love Her by Ray Peterson) or Laura's a p-s-y-c-h-o p-s-y-c-h-o p-s-y-c-h-o and psycho was her name-o (Billy Joel's song). **Por Favours: (Look Ma! I'm two lingual)** I have a couple of quest-ions that I was wondering if anyone could answer. Actually, there not questions as much as they are just wanting opinions on a couple of different things. The first one is a book by Laurence Sterne by the name of "Tristam Shandy". I was just wondering if anyone on the list had read this and if so what you had thought about it. I will be ecstatic to hear someone's opinion on it. The subject of my other question is the group Silversun. The same person who recommended Belle and Sebastian to me a couple of years ago also really loved the group Silversun. For the past two years, I have been trying to find something by them over here in the states but it has been impossible (im-pos-siblay: that was said in my faux Spanish accent). Are they worth checking out? I don't know a thing about them. So, please forgive my ignorance. **US/CANADA SINISTER DIRECTORY:(Another Favor. This time in English)** Some time ago, I posted about wanting to make a Sinister Directory for all of the listees that live in the US or Canada (or Anartica for that matter). I dutifully gathered all of the information that everyone graciously e-mailed me & put it together in a nice little program. Unfortunately, the person who was suppose to help me post it on the web has been suffering from computer problems and can no longer do it. I was wondering if anyone out there would like to help me put it together. I must admit that it would take some amount of work and would be an on-going project (due to people subbing and wanting to be added). *Spilled Milk: The Spoiled Years** I need to apologize to y'all. It seems as if I have made a grievance against someone on here and because of that it reflected negatively on the list. It seems as if I were most inconsiderate and rude to someone due to just not thinking. I just want to say to that person and to everyone that I'm sorry. Nobody (except maybe Will Porter) is perfect and I know that I personally am highly flawed (Heck, when I live by myself I drink the milk right from the carton. That's right. I don't even pretend like I'm going to get a glass). The last intent of my heart is to make anyone feel as if what they are (or what they do for others) is less than great. I'm sincerely sorry that I made someone here feel that way. I am thankful that they came to me with this problem instead of silently seething about it & cursing my name or flaming me to the list as they could have done. So, if I have wronged anyone else please let me know so that I can try to do my best to make it up to you. Well, that's my 2 cents. If I were you, I'd be looking for some change. Laura "meeting all of your Laura Llew needs since 1977" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Wed Feb 9 07:42:12 2000 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 23:42:12 PST Subject: Sinister: Students with beards: "TEE OR CAKE OR DEATH! TEE OR CAKE OR DEATH!" Message-ID: <20000209074212.91616.qmail@hotmail.com> Peter Miller (formaly knows as Honey, it seems) said something that made me spill my coffee onto my bosses computer, therefore costing me 1200 pounds (send the check in the mail, PM, or otherwise I'll break your bloody kneecaps with my hammer that I just found from my trousers. It was there, but the bad news is that the lobster ran away. Well it didn't run, much more like crawled. A bit like babies do. My sisters girl had her first birthday this sunday, and it was grate. She's so cute. But then again, babies usually are. Did you know that back in the days when the Romans were still fuck-off-huge they used to have fun by throwing babies into the air, then catching them. The babies used to giggle, but sometimes the Romans used to kill them by launching them up to the sky and then sticking a pole through them. True story. Mad cuckoo-type of lot the Romans were. I mean, they had some serious freaks as their leaders. A bit like Austria seems to have now. I've said that politics bore me, but that J�rg Heider- dude seems like a real BOJOING-dickhead. Talking of Dicks, have you seen any pictures of Richard Dreyfuss lately? That man has gotten old. But I quess that happens to all of us. We all get old. Some old people smell funny, but I think it's just the Grimreaper that's following them, trying to get his hands on 'em) Erm... Oh yes, Peter Miller said: >FINLAND NEWS > >Jarkko's lesbian president was on the news last night. Also, 68% of >the population of Finland own mobile phones. Some extremists even go >so far as to live in a place called Nokia. When I was on holiday at >Christmas, one of the neighbours was called Jarkko. Never met him >though. Lesbian? Erm, no she's not. She has a boyfriend, she was just the chairman of the gay and lesbian rights movement. I mean, you don't have to have superpowers even if you work in a nuclearfactory, have you? What? No you don't! I know, I know, Spiderman was bit by a radioactive spider (well duh!) and he suddenly was able to climb the walls etc., but... erm... So there! Tell me, when was the last time you saw a spider BITE someone? Hmm, or did it sting Peter Parker? I'm not sure. I was a big fan of X-men too, before the whole comic went piiiiuuuufffff over my head. In the comic, I think it was Prof. Xaviers' son who destroyed the whole universe. And then someone rebuild it. Quoting Eddie Izzard: "That must have been a tree-in-the-morning-decision" by the scriptwriters. Or was that "lesbian president"- thingy a joke? Maybe it was. Or was it? How many birds can you keep in a lift before the landlord notices? Have you ever had the feeling you've been cheated? And yeah, we have a place called Nokia here. That's the place where Nokia had their first factory (I think). They used to make RUBBERBOOTS before someone thought of mobilephones in their office. I wonder how that one came about? Some man working in the office: "Mister chairman, I have an idea!" Chairman: "Not the 'let's recycle our hair and make ropes out of it' again?" SMWITO: "No no! This one's even better! I'm sick of these stupid rubberboots! How about if we started to make phones that you can just carry in your pocket! Or in your bag! You could send textmessages with it! And pictures!" *NOTE: all this happened in the eighties, when the computers were BIG and not that powerful and ugly and "Beverly Hills Cop" was considered to be entertainment. Chairman: "Righto." SMWITO: "Yeah, we'd be huge! Bigger than King Kong! We'd be one of the biggest companies in the world!" Chairman: "Ok. I'll think about that. In the meantime, why don't you go home and take a few days off. You sure as hell seems to need it, you silly little man." And there: the untold truth about the birth of Nokia. @--->--- A rose, love and other stuff that makes you fell funny in your tummy, Jake le PetitE ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Wed Feb 9 13:57:08 2000 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:57:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Chocolate flavour Stripes! Message-ID: <20000209135708.19686.qmail@web1704.mail.yahoo.com> Ba-ba-ba-ba, I watched Sid'n'Nancy last night, and Queer as Folk too! The feller who played Johnny Wotten was a dumbum, and was that KATHY BURKE I saw? A lady of many faces, all of them somewhat disturbing. I like her. Not as much as I like Queer as Folk though. Gosh! Take my breath away or make me faint in sheer delight or what?? The teaser for the next series was JUST too much, I fell off my bed and crushed some crisps. Wow. It gets no better. Hopefully the lesbians won't be in it so much this time. And we get more STUART'N'VINCE. Speaking of lesbians, Lesley Jo is back! Speaking of lesbians (and their associated housemates), Lixi is back! Yippee! It could ONLY get any better if this pretty foul "milkshake" (my arse) turned into a superb W-Bar of Harringay milkshake. *sings* toooooniiiiiiiight, make me a dyyyyyyyyke *to the tune of Atomic* Anyway. Lesley! Referring to Belle AND Sebastian: > jealous by telling her i had seen them live, and met them. Well, I've seen them *all*. DEAD!!!! Ahahahhahhaaahahhaha and what pretty little corpses they made moi lovelies. There was Stuart David, even in his death mask mumbling "this is a pish graveyard, wheres my bass, wheres me washboard", Richard - his serene features speaking of a life of hitting things and carrying Happy Shopper carrier bags, and Mick, looking slightly disgruntled that some "wit" had scrawled 'the prick' on his tombstone. Theres always one isn't there, ALWAYS ONE!!! > SCUM forever, Toilet Duck forever! Love you! Sarah xo ===== "But just remember, when your teacher told you to always find a home for stray animals, she wasn't referring to your rectum." -- DNA Mag-AZINE. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Wed Feb 9 15:05:38 2000 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 15:05:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tuc Biscuits and Richard O'Sullivan Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000209150538.006b5888@ampsys.co.uk> Hello, I return from a several day wilderness of no email to a veritable plethora of electronic scribblings. And unlike most soaps you miss a few days episodes here and it's very difficult to keep up with the plot. Was Lixi's return to get revenge on whoever left her stranded in a prison of modemless life? Perhaps through the tool of Rick Wakeman? And let's face it he really is a bit of a tool. Does Ailsa's foreboding wedding mean the end of the (virtual) affair she had? And that Ralph Fiennes-esque diamond geezer will now be virtually stranded at the drive in, branded a fool... Oh dear, quoting Grease lyrics isn't clever... Actually, has anyone seen End Of The Affair? If so, is it any cop like as I remember being quite engaged myself with its litteratura origins. And all this crush business has really got out of hand now. I know you all mean to vote for me, but you must of all got my email address wrong or something. Or maybe my Grandmother was right. She once said while looking at an old photo of me and me in person, what a shame you used to such a handsome boy. Which was a bit harsh, especially as I was about 13 at the time. To be told your best days are behind you and you hadn't even shoved your tongue down someone's gob and wiggled it about yet was a bit much. Though, she also used to always say this is funny, you'll laugh at this and then recount a tale such as Tuc biscuits have gone up 1/2p or that her celery's gone brown. Which to be frank doesn't even give Les Dennis much comedic competition. This weekend also saw me leave my parent's warm and loving nest and flutter my wings alone to a nice twiggy abode with some drunken fops I stumbled across. Which now leaves my life with no direction as Timothy from Sorry! can no longer be my hero and guiding light. I'm thinking maybe moving on from Ronnie Corbett to Richard O'Sullivan's character in Man About The House or maybe Jacko from Brush Strokes. "Because of you...". Indeed. I think my trouble with keeping up with the plot has moved on to losing it altogether now. Ho hum. Must go and poach some porridge. Te ra, Martin ear confection recordings (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Wed Feb 9 15:36:46 2000 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (Angel Blackwell) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:36:46 EST Subject: Sinister: where the boys are...is where I'll be Message-ID: <20000209153646.47972.qmail@hotmail.com> so I was doing this vicar up the arse the other day... Finally got to hear some B&S played loud in a club on Saturday. (All Torontonians pls cover your eyes for the next part.) Friends of mine were down from London (Ontario) so we had to go to, uh, well, fuck it, I went to Blowup! And believe me it blew, well what I remember of the evening anyway. But I was completely disillusioned that night as well. This guy I know was there and I hadn't seen him since I graduated from uni. Alls of a sudden, Looper comes blipping and bleeping along and it's the first good song I'd heard that night. Well, this guy i knew, he's so cool and has great taste in music and used to dj our Redeye and Popstars nights at the pub, he didn't know who Looper were/was. Oh well, I knew my generation weren't supposed to have idols. One of the springs came off my new slightly '60's pullout couch and I can't figure out where it goes. It's all slightly embarrassing cus it's hanging outta the couch and everyone who comes over can figure out how we broke it. I'm not going to Morrissey now cus he's old and not as sexy as the life size poster I have of him posing on that car and I can't get to Hamilton on a wednesday night. Before I go I'll ask if anyone has the same problem I've been having: is it a sin to keep getting you boss off when you work late? No, really, does anyone else have a hair style that's not like everyone else's at your place of employment. I had a really bad hair day but hadn't noticed yet and no one told me about it cus they thought my hair was supposed to look like shite. I didn't have enough glue in my hair to keep it all spikey like. le petit ange ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.alder at xxx.uk Wed Feb 9 16:16:43 2000 From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:16:43 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Stuart David - news from Jeepster! Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F3352DEB@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk> as an update to the recent news in the nme and on nme.com, we would like to make a correction to their story and clarify the situation. it was reported that, contrary to rumours, stuart david (bass player) had not left belle and sebastian and was not considering doing so. the real situation is virtually the opposite of what was reported. stuart david has left belle and sebastian as a full time member and will not be playing live with the band in future. he will now be concentrating on looper and will still have links with belle & sebastian (including playing with them at the forthcoming recording of the john peel session for radio 1) and shall occasionally work with them in the studio. effectively, stuart david has chosen to spend more time developing his writing and work with looper and this has been amicably received by the other members of belle and sebastian. That's a copy-and-paste from Jeepster news Juicy Lucy =================================================== This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. -- MCI WorldCom Year 2000 information http://www.wcom.co.uk/2000 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Wed Feb 9 16:31:49 2000 From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:31:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Primal Bean Message-ID: Primal Scream, grrr! Nick said this; >But it puts me off. I'm not very good at taking bands seriously when >their members are so daft. then Rachel said this; >i honestly do believe that the scream's music rises above >whatever their band members are actually like. I used to have a bit of a problem with bands who had wanky people in them, but I'm not so bothered now. I think, like Rachel said, it's not about the people in the end, its about the music and it just so happens that arrogant, wanky types make that music. Mind you, all the bands I *really* like are the ones where the members seem okay, and that could be why I like Belle and Sebastian most of all. I do think it affects lyrics, though, lyrics come from the heart. I used to think that Bobby Gillespie was a jazz trumpeter, I think I was a bit confused. I also went through a stage of thinking that Peter Miller and Paul Mitchell were the same person. It must have been the small letters that got me so confused. Small letters? Oh no I won't bother with those, there's too many of them, the big letters will do for me. It's fun the way we don't know much about each other though, isn't it? Some people think I'm a boy and some people think I'm a girl, which I find quite titillating. I forget myself sometimes. Oooh, I've just read that Stuart David has left the band. I've got nothing against Stuart David, but he never really seemed to fit in too well with the sound of the band anyway, so I don't think this is a bad thing. It'll be a good thing for Looper too, I know Stuart D gets pissed off that he's referred to as "that chap from Belle and Sebastian". Speaking of Stuart David, I read Nalda Said the other day and it's not half as bad as I thought it would be, it's quite good in fact. Hmm, this email is far too dull. I think I'll say a rude word to make things more exciting. Bum! That's done the trick! Robin x PS: Congratulations Ailsa on your engagement. I suppose Stuart David's departure puts the icing on the wedding cake, so to speak. (sorry for that terrible joke, folks) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Paulfie at xxx.uk Wed Feb 9 16:48:22 2000 From: Paulfie at xxx.uk (Paul Field) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:48:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: computer geeks and bookish types Message-ID: <8183113A18D5D111B27F00600851444CBB7AEA@OASIS_NT07> Hello all, firstly after Laura Llew (I think) mentioned Tom Robbins, I thought I would copy this quote (from memory - so forgive any inaccuracies) in a kind of response to Brandts message. "Plans are one thing, and fate another. When the two coincide, success results, but success should not be considered the absolute. It is questionable, for that matter, whether success is an adequate response to life, success can eliminate as many options as failure." Even Cowgirls Get the Blues, Tom Robbins. Also, anybody who knows much about computers will know what 'pointers in c' are (for those who don't, it's something to do with a dull programming language). Now, go to http://www.amazon.co.uk and search for 'pointers in c' in their books. (dunno if it works in amazon.com). The results include one of everybody's favourites, the catcher in the rye, and something else. Warning - it is not twee and may offend! Though if you ask me it is bloody funny. I'll go now before I embarrass myself any further. Tatty-Bye Paul. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Wed Feb 9 16:58:31 2000 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 08:58:31 PST Subject: Sinister: canterbusy west Message-ID: <20000209165831.34532.qmail@hotmail.com> hallo!i have to say that my kerouac move was rather succesful...hmmm...i should've thought of that before... tanx people... anyway,i can't write more 'cause i'm not on my base.u see i have friendssssssss around the isles so i'm in sunny canterbury.anyone round here?i'll be here until sunday,so let me know if there's anyone from da list here...tonight i'm going to this pub which i can't remember the bloody name..but...tomorrow i'll be in kent uni.anyone there? oh,well... why did i decide to be in the midlands?nuh,i think i like my new 'hood... right.got to go.... i want to dedicate this to some people:kallipops je t'aime and magic dragon i'm sorry... luv luv luv 'cause it's all u need....! zocoholic... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Feb 9 17:35:13 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:35:13 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The f**ing c**ts are treating us like p****s Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22B721A8@SERVER1> Evans wrote: "Egon Ronay - wasn't he one of the Ghostbusters ? He was a c**t." You're thinking of Egon Schiele. The speccy one. Brandt wrote eloquently about failure and its appeal. But failure? Seductive? No, you're thinking of apathy. Failure comes afterwards. Or alternatively, failure can become something you can twist around in your head until it becomes perversely attractive. Kids, this is a Bad Thing. Write songs about it, write letters about it, but don't start believing it. (Copyright Mark's trite glib diatribes 2000) Moving onto important things - bloody hell Ailsa! Is this the same lucky bloke as before? Or did Ally Cook finally manage to have his wicked way with you (see his recent protesting-too-much post)? He's a dirty bastard, that one, watch him gurls. Juliya starts her day drinking beer. Mmm, beer...I once decided to try the hair of the dog thing after a heavy night, and after a couple of sips I felt GRATE! So I went on to have five more beers (still in my pyjamas), felt even more GRATE, thanked my gracious host and set off home. Only for my legs to stop working as I crossed a busy road. That was strange. My friend had to drag me to the pavement before I got squashed. Today's recipe? Cous-cous with sun-dried tomatoes (sun-blushed tomatoes if you're oh so trendy), oyster mushrooms and a soupcon of anchovy paste for the non-vegetarian (did you know Worcestershire sauce is made of anchovies? Curious). Season and serve with olive stir-fried chicken and a Pinot Noir or similar. Yum. Little Blonde DJ who's just got his KATE RUSBY and FREE DESIGN CDs through the post, and about time too xxx ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 020 7224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Wed Feb 9 18:23:48 2000 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:23:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave Message-ID: <80256880.00653447.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Rumour proved true shock! On the 23rd November, Carsmile Steve reported on his Stuart David chat experiences and said: > 4. In fact there were subtle undertones that he might be leaving the band > to concentrate on Looper and stuff (can I stress this is simply hearsay and > reading between the lines and NOT FACT) Hey ho, I wish him well. Will the rest of the band get more money now? You can play bass? You can play drums? Bum-dum-dum-a-lum. Mmmm...yeah! The rebel's here and he's street tuff. >> Maybe this was just a mistyping, but isn't the >> expression 'shot of me'?  I only mention it in case >> he's gone through his life getting it wrong and >> wondering why people look at him funny. > According to my Talulah Gosh approved dictionary, both > are possible. I think Nick's version is the one used by > common as muck people, and mine's dead posh. Oh all right then. I'll shot up. Mouse xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Wed Feb 9 20:23:03 2000 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt S. Fundak) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:23:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Maybe my sinister friends can help. Message-ID: Do you guys know anything about the band Hood? They are playing Cleveland March 10 and I want to know if it is worth my trouble to go see them play. Thanks. Brandt "We live here but we're sightseers." --The Lucksmiths +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grey7 at xxx.net Wed Feb 9 19:10:22 2000 From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 14:10:22 -0500 Subject: Sinister: *and the bubble burst and poor Fubble tumbled into trouble Message-ID: <003d01bf7331$53623500$6a381fce@default> Greetings again Sinister Siblings, so Stuart David has left the building, eh? Best of luck to him then. I'll admit to not caring for Looper's album upon the first hearing but several Sinister Siblings poked and prodded me into giving it a rehash. I must say that upon several more listens it grew upon me and "Impossible Things #2" has found it's way onto a mix tape of my favorite songs. I've even converted two more people to the Holy Cause that is Sinister and Looper. Come now people!! I'm sure we can supply Erica with some more pictures for her Sinister clothing project! Miss Scarlet is waiting impatiently for all your Sinister styles. The Lovely Laura Llew said; "Not only did Jim Gilmer (who is the Tape God. Someone please make that boy an idol) send me Magnetic Fields 69 Love Songs (which is tops)" You heard the lady Sinister Lads and Lasses! Bow down to the Tape God, worship me with sacrifices of firstborn and virgins!! I am come among you to bring passion and music to your lives! I am your living Tape God, praise me or I'll take my infinite love away from this list!! ...*ahem*, sorry about that. Slight case of my rampant megalomania kicking up again into drama queen mode. I was called "normal looking" by someone yesterday, I believe it was supposed to be a compliment. It's a skill really, being able to fit into everyday society while maintaining a life of twee anarchy and Sinister perversions. You know, perversions like reading and listening to music other than Top 40 or country which saturates my little Michigan hometown. While at work I was spending my lunch break reading when another employee came into the breakroom and seeing me engaged in such an odd activity exclaimed, "Oh, a reader!". They are even now preparing a large scarlet R for me even as we speak. Cheers to rachel for recommending the Gormenghast trilogy to me, it's brilliant. Cheers as well to those mad nutters on the sinister chat for help with finding Lucksmiths cd's and choosing reading material for an elementary school project. Spiders do bite though I have not encountered any radioactive ones, the little buggers can leave nasty marks and the bite tends to swell a little. A friend of mine once told me that (according to him, he insists he saw this on Discovery) it has been proven that we swallow about eight spiders a year. They crawl into our mouths whilst we sleep seeking the warm humidity we provide and then they simply get swallowed. Charming thought, eh? Much love and warm fuzzy thoughts to the dear souls who voted for me on the list crush, you're both wonderful whoever you are. Oh, and let's start telling the story already!! Use that bit of wasted space we call a subject line! You'll hurt our Dear Honey's feelings if you don't play these sinister games with us. Recommended reading: Cornelius Chronicles by Michael Moorcock and with that.... Goodbye Rag! Goodbye Tag! Goodbye Bobtail! Be Sinister children... Jim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com Wed Feb 9 20:26:32 2000 From: andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com (Andrew CHurchman) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:26:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: CLIENTELE Message-ID: <20000209202632.530.qmail@web1607.mail.yahoo.com> hey, i keep reading these posts about the clientele/ladybug transistor show. I've been wanting to go but being NYU is about 2hrs away,it's on a thrusday, and i have school the next day, i probably won't make it. For those who do go please let us know how it went. Ladybug Transistor are extrordinary in my opion, their guitarist Jeff is one of the nicest guys in the world too. So those going should have a good time. Oh, thanks to those who e-mailed me about my "girl troubles" it was very nice of you..... but, now that were "just friends" would a Valentines gift be too much?? any help? Thanks for reading. see ya later. ----------- andrew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Wed Feb 9 21:08:42 2000 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:08:42 EST Subject: Sinister: *so she picked herself up and found that she was in a fairy castle Message-ID: Hiya all! First, can I say hi to samantha, my penfriend, who's on sinister somewhere. I think. Oooh. Guess what. I'm going on a real live DATE with a real live BOY. His name's Barry. But he's two years older than me, and he'll prolly think i'm silly. Or i'll go all shy and red, and he'll think i'm insane. But I'm pleased with myself all the same, because I managed to talk to him without running away, or looking at my feet. Belle and Sebastian were mentioned on the priory. But it was a very short mention, and it was only one of the guests saying he liked them. I don't even know who the guest was. In RE class we all had to dercribe each other. So the four people I was with decided I was bookish, mostly sad, shy, serious, afraid, naive and worried. Everyone else got good stuff like funny, or cheerful, or interesting. Iona rhymes with Fiona, but I don't know if anyone would write a song about a little scottish place where it rains a lot. I feel really bad because I was in the tape tree and messed it up a bit by losing one of the tapes. But I found it, so it should be ok now, if the lynch mob don't get me. I have two list crushes. I feel so wanted. It's valentines day soon, and our school's running a valentines delivery service. Which is sweet. Lots of hugs, and flowery love and puke. Jen Ps. I just realised that all the smut can't stop, because i get my sex education off of sinister. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andy at xxx.net Wed Feb 9 21:24:37 2000 From: andy at xxx.net (spaceboy) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 21:24:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tales of Brave Andy, adrift in NYC Message-ID: <38A1DB12.BDCE4621@newdream.net> Dear Sinister, Allo, comrades, this is my first time writing, and since introductory emails generally make me feel awkward I'll keep the "Love me, I'm new!" portion of this letter to a minimum: Love me. I'm new. Excellent, now that that's over with. I recently moved to New York to attend art school in the east village, and I guess that it was only upon my arrival here that my love of Belle & Sebastian turned into something of an obsession. How could it not, really? In a city that's so easily conducive to both melancholic introspection and passionate wanderlust, how could such music not quickly become a soundtrack to your life? Sure, there were other musical participants. Leonard Cohen, ex-Canadian turned New Yorkian (or is that vice versa?), the Magnetic Fields (who I can now proudly call a local band), Chisel (who I used to call a local band before I left DC), Bjork, the ever-present Elvis Costello .. you know the drill. But none of them really left as strong an imprint as B&S. So if in four years I no longer listen to the music I'm listening to today, if I look back upon my Belle & Sebastian days as nothing more than a fad (heresy?), perhaps I can take reconciliation in the fact that they played an instrumental role in my early New York days. And it's still a bit difficult, I think. This is the first time I've uprooted myself so heavily. I went to college in Iowa for a bit, but it was so isolated and inwardly focused that the difficulties associated with acclimation were minimal at best. I've some lovely people here, as I expected I would, but I still feel straddled between two potential ways of living my life: 1) College Community and Very Little More You know the drill, or can imagine it. The entirety of my social life revolves around my friends in school, and most often around school functions. Parties, lectures, that sort of thing. And while such a lifestyle has its draws, I still feel attracted to... 2) Living My Life as an Independent Entity in New York City I'm cheating myself. I live in one of, if not the, most dynamic city in the states. And yet I rarely, if ever, experience it. I never go out to shows, though I used to attend shows constantly back home - I can just never work up the drive here, I think. I never go out to clubs, though I'd like to. And, most distinctly, I have no friends not currently attending Cooper Union. And that's something I'd like to change. ...Not that I'm hitting you all up for friendship. Only sex! Err, sorry, actually, neither. Before I begin, this may get boring for any of you not in the area, so you can skip down to the ending, where I will attempt to find some clever way of signing off. For those of you in the area, though, a question: where're some nice places to go, preferably in the general area of the East Village? Some clubs that play music other than Madonna remixes. Some coffee shops with nice pinball games. Some interesting little hideaway I've yet to discover. If you've any ideas, please respond via direct email, of course. I'd hate to go down in infamy my first week on the list. To the rest of you, I've really enjoyed reading the majority of the emails the past few weeks. Thanks for flooding me with charming and occasionally dirty bits of text, they've been the saving grace of my inbox. Rapidly contributing to the degradation of Sinister from within, Andy (who isn't ready to send kisses to any of you quite yet) PS: Fiona can be awkwardly fit to rhyme "you own," as in: Fiona my joy, you own this boy ...err .. it helps if you slur the "Fiona." And also if you're drunk. -- andy pressman_________________________________________ http://andy.newdream.net : ICQ 12956959 : AOLim Kid Roboto andy at newdream.net (would you like me to read it now?) pressman at cooper.edu (or shall I get around to it eventually?) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From guile at xxx.br Thu Feb 10 06:07:25 2000 From: guile at xxx.br (Guilherme Barrella) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:07:25 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Photo Jenny Message-ID: <38A2559D.FD0733F1@telnet.com.br> Hi Sinister, Have you guys ever heard of a Japanese band called Photo Jenny? They're lovely. Some guy made real audio files of their music. --watermelon crush--(from Left Bank CDep): http://village.infoweb.ne.jp/~trolley/photo_04.ram --window painting-- (from Left Bank CDep): http://village.infoweb.ne.jp/~trolley/photo_06.ram (He will delete these files 2 or 3 days later) They have two releases: "Tier Quatett" 8 song CDep(Left Bank/Japan) "Painted Kites" 5 song CDep(Minty Fresh Japan/Japan) And here's their email address: photo at abox.so-net.ne.jp gui i'm posting too much, i fell bad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daftpunk at xxx.au Thu Feb 10 06:30:02 2000 From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:30:02 +0800 (WST) Subject: Sinister: Kin's Big Day Out report!:) Message-ID: hello Sinisterinies! Just writing to tell you about my day at the Big Day Out- the best (err actually practically the only!) festival in Australia. And this year had an unbeatable line-up (unbeatable that is for Aussie standards which most definitely do not compare to English festival ones): Beth Orton, Basement Jaxx, Chemicals, and Primal Scream. It was like THE most TRANSCENDENTAL, MIND-BLOWING just plain AMAZING time of my life. It was actually stultifyingly ROASTINGLY *HOT*- a whopping 37 degrees celsius!:( Beth Orton made a joke about "a little English roast-Beth on a spit!" which was an accurate description. The maddening heat threatened to spoil proceedings and since the first band we saw was Atari Teenage Riot- the self-proclaimed loudest band in the world (eat that Korn et al) who sounded like a cross between Rage Against the Machine and Bis (a frightful notion), the mood was not helped. The only words they seemed to know (they're German) were "FUCK" "REVOLUTION" and "Atari Teenage Riot!" all delivered in screaming tones- errgh. Lead singer was good-looking though. After that we retreated to shade for drinks etc The next act we saw was the ever lovely Beth Orton. She seemed to be a great mood despite the heat and was joking and goofing around a lot- such a relief from the other dour Atari. She was really great of course- with the dancier tracks like "Tangent" and "Stars seem to Weep" wonderfully complimenting the rock outs ("Stolen Car") and the devastatingly sad weepies like "Pass in Time". She was wearing a rilly cute hot orange bikini and hot pants combo with a cute blue star on her bottom, so I took a piccie of it!:) She played a remarkably short set-only half an hour but it was still really fantastic. My friend nearly passed out from the heat then- so early in the day. Primal Scream were next in the Boiler Room and boy did a place EVER live up to its name. The weather was 37 degrees but inside the Boiler Room it was at least in the fifties! So packed it was with writhing steaming bodies. Prior to the Primals, the security guards were in a strangely jolly mood and were dancing along to the music and exhorting the audience to do so too-hmmm! Primals were unequivocally the BEST act of the day despite very tough competition. They were evil and brilliant and their music suitably nasty metal machine futuristic punk, which frequently escalated into pure white noise. Mani was off-his-face on some drugs while Bobby G wore sunnies and didn't move much yet oozed deadly cool from every pore. All their tracks boasted subterranean bass levels that reverberated through yr entire body (well I was right up front so I really FELT it!) and sounded so AMAZING, that we all felt like disciples bowing down at the feet of Bobby G, preacher of our modern times. Which I know sounds kinda wanky, but heh! It was that mind-blowing:) We took another much-needed break during Goldie and went back in to see Basement Jaxx who were also excellent and made MASSIVE sounding party music that was just awesome. After ANOTHER break, we went to see the last band on the bill, Chemical Brothers who were yes, you guessed it-f**king brilliant. They had trippy visuals and more importantly sounded blisteringly great. I just kept thinking wow! This is the best 6 hour rave ever:) the best song was "Block Rocking Beats" but their last song "Private Psychedelic Reel" just stunned us with its transcendental majesty and everything was just so *right* about the whole experience. It was like, your feet were aching and it was swelteringly hot but the euphoria and ecstasy you experienced was so undeniable. And that brought to an end a nearly 12 hour day of intense heat and the great feeling that it was $73 very well spent. The next day woke up with a mild case of temporary tinnitus and sunburn but have now completely recovered-yah! What was also really good was that I was able to bring my tape recorder in and made a pretty good bootlegs of Beth Orton, Basement Jaxx and Chems, and a not bad one of Primal Scream. Double HOORAY! Especially considering the fact that they had metal detectors at the gate and was sure I would be caught:) oooh way long letter. ah well hope those who DID make it to the end didn't mind it TOO much! ok luvvies love ya and leave ya Kin Woo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordiet at xxx.com Thu Feb 10 09:16:58 2000 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: 10 Feb 2000 01:16:58 -0800 Subject: Sinister: The boy with the terrible english strikes again Message-ID: <20000210091658.6600.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From kittenmouse at xxx.com Thu Feb 10 09:34:35 2000 From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (kittenmouse radio) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:34:35 -0800 Subject: Sinister: tigermilk hoarders In-Reply-To: <200002091737.RAA08084@missprint.org> Message-ID: hi kids, i'm just writing cause it's 1:25 am and i'm supposed to be in bed; i've got studio classes from 8:30 am to 5 pm tomorrow. ugh. can't skip again. just had a medieval art midterm today. it was difficult, but i hope i got an A. that would be super. the main reason i am writing is because i wanted to share an opinion on a subject that slightly irritates me and wondered what you kids thought of it. i was talking to a friend of mine who is familiar with belle and sebastian, right around the time when tigermilk was going to be, or just had been rereleased. she told me she knew some kids who thought they were top shit because they had, something like, twenty copies of the original vinyl pressing of tigermilk. and i was thinking, who brags about that? what kind of arse-hole hoards 20 copies of an album of which only 1,000 copies were pressed? ugh. if i met them i would want to smack them. really hard. who cares anyway, now that jeepster has rereleased it? i hope they're only worth 10 cents now, just to spite those snobby hipster f**ks. anyway, thanks for letting me vent my irritation. luv, andrea +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Thu Feb 10 11:07:09 2000 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:07:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Music for Girls... Message-ID: <20000210110709.18092.qmail@web3004.mail.yahoo.com> Hey there fellow proletarian liste-e-es... nastdravia tavaritzs... (spelled wrong but it means "cheers comrades" in russian)... it's funny... I'm always thinking to myself... I won't write to the list again unless I have something specific in my mind that I want to write... and it always turns the otherway round... that is, I never have anything specific in my head when I start writing... I just feel a sort of nostalgia so I sit down and write all those things... it's a sort of therapy, isn't it? Mentioning "nostalgia"... it's one of my fav films by Andrei Tarkovski... "nostalgia" and mostly "the sacrifice"... I love Tarkovski... I've been talking with a friend earlier this morning telling him about my friends from da list... there are two people from da list who have actually visited me and stayed with me for some days... and now... we are friends for life... So, this friend of mine (not a listee) said that this is paranoid! Having people I don't know visiting me and staying with me... he said it's not logical... and not realistic... I don't think so... As I've mentioned in a previous post of mine, sinister is a world in its own... I believe that... and actually that's the thing I love the most about sinister... and who wants reality anyway? Not me... the world is a really cruel place to live in... you people are more real than people I meet every day... than people I work with and talk with etc... maybe this is a "bubble-world", but isn't it true that everyone lives in a bubble? so then, why not sharing a bubble with the rest of you? I'm talking nonsense, aren't I? I'll stop then... I just wanted to say that to all of you as it's been bothering me all morning... and... list abuse... Zwitsa... je t'aime aussi... so so much... and a special hug and a kiss on the nose to a very very special Teddy Bear, my best friend in the whole wide world... not in a www.sense... and... a hug to a special bubble-boy... he knows who he is, I hope... and a big hug to you all... Oh... I've almost forgotten that... I'm DJing on Friday, that is tomorrow... and I'd love to hear your requests... so, if any of you want me to play a song, just "ask me... I won't say no"... I'd love to play the songs you've requested even though you won't be there to listen to me playing... it'd be fun... and, so I can make a play-list filled up with sinisteriennes' requests... and I'll make a flyer saying "sinister-list presents the P!O!P!-est Night ever" that will be da Koolest ... and when I'll have the songs' list, I'll post it here...and i can make a tape with all the songs and send it to the people who sent me their requests... Have to dash... I'm looking forward to hear your requests... please eeee personally... velocity_girl_is at yahoo.co.uk love+moccacandies (that's what I'm having right now!) V.F. XXX O ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From neil at xxx.net Thu Feb 10 10:48:56 2000 From: neil at xxx.net (Neil Robertson) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:48:56 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Gig of interest in Glasgow Message-ID: <002501bf73b4$95882ba0$3d6945c2@pricelessoem> All you Stevie Jackson fans should get along to the Tron theatre in Glasgow on Sunday 20th February, where Stevie will be playing as part of the Bill Wells Trio. Anyone who hasn't witnessed the genius of Bill Wells before would do well to go down and have a listen. Stevie adds guitar and harmonica to Bill's hauntingly beautiful pieces. The Trio are supporting The Telstar Ponies, who are doing their first Glasgow gig in about three years, since reforming. The Pastels are DJing too. Tickets are £6 (£5 con.) from John Smiths or the Tron box office. It promises to be a great night in a fantastic venue. See you there. Neil +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachel at xxx.uk Thu Feb 10 15:12:22 2000 From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:12:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: be warned, i'm on a bit of a downer Message-ID: <000b01bf73d9$d3255580$2f4f883e@preinstalledco> hello hello hello hello i've really scared myself today, i very nearly hopped on a train to glasgow an hour ago for no apparent reason. i got in the queue for tickets and everything...luckily just as there was only two people in front of me i managed to turn round, walk out of the station and sit on the steps. had a couple of cigarettes to try calm myself down, but i was still shaking as i got on the bus back home. i only went down there to renew my railcard and cos i needed to get out the house. i've done it once before. i was 13 at the time, and the year i was 13 has to be the worst of my (admittedly rather short) life. one day i just couldn't handle it anymore. i'd been skipping school regularly for months just to wander about and i wandered down to the station and got on a train to manchester. i honestly believed i was never coming back. the scary thing was it was so easy just to go. except for the fact that i went end of january and it was fucking freezing, so come about half ten that night i went back home again. since then i've always suppressed most impulse actions, so i thought i'd kind of grown out of it a bit. i hoped i had, cos it frightens me what i can do on impulse. that's why i've been a nervous wreck since i got home, and i just needed to write it down to clear my head. it's not like i'm even particularly unhappy at the moment, in fact i'm enjoying most things right now. i just don't understand why i keep wanting to pack it all in. i'm not even interested in travelling. all my mates are on about going to thailand and africa and australia for the year before they go to uni, but it doesn't even slightly appeal to me. i just fancy a change of co-op. i might even go for tesco's. anyway, i'm calmer now. sarah said about queer as folk 2: >Wow. It gets no better. Hopefully the lesbians won't be in it so much this >time. And we get more STUART'N'VINCE. yay! stuart&vince, stuart&vince!! it's not often that screen couples have just so much chemistry and are so, what's the word? easy to empathise with that all the time you're watching them you're just willing them on, and can't possibly miss anything, any little look or gesture (maybe this merely displays how utterly useless i am at relationships that i get so involved in those of fictional characters...). the only truly fantastic couples i can think of who were absolutely compulsory viewing are elizabeth and mr darcy (pride & prejudice) and anna&miles (this life). but stuart&vince are the ultimate. i hope they never actually get together though, the unrequited love has gone on too long for it to work (why? why am i seriously debating an imaginary relationship? i am sooo sad...) but i'd like to be proved wrong, for vince's sake. ooh, just want to say thank you to everyone who's been telling me about michael and john head and pale fountains. cos of what happened at the station i never made it to hmv today, but i will be going for a bit of a hunt at the weekend. something else is bothering me too, but i'm not sure how to say it without sounding a bit bitchy. oh what the hell. i've been listening to the bowlie tape, and although i'm assuming that there were other songs done, i'm worried by the fact that the only songs i hadn't heard were non-struan songs. and all the whisperings coming out of the b&s camp is that almost everyone's written stuff for the new album. has previously undiscovered writing talent suddenly made itself known or is struan going through a bit of a bad patch and the rest of the band are carrying him or what? i'm not dissing everyone else's songwriting abilities here cos i really do like all the songs that aren't stu m, but it was the mighty murdoch's songs i fell in love with y'know, so i'm a bit panicky. especially now that stuart david has left the band. i know the general feeling on the list seems to be one of 'it's for the best' and obviously there'll still be looper, and that's A Good Thing, but i can't help feeling it's a loss that could really make itself felt. maybe i worry too much. i hope so. on that rather depressing note i'm off. lovin' and leavin' you all my sweetpeas rachel xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kschaffe at xxx.Edu Thu Feb 10 15:30:20 2000 From: kschaffe at xxx.Edu (Schaffenberger, Kristen ) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:30:20 -0600 Subject: Sinister: The f**ing c**ts are treating us like p****s Message-ID: Evans wrote: "Egon Ronay - wasn't he one of the Ghostbusters ? He was a c**t." And Mark replies: You're thinking of Egon Schiele. The speccy one. And Kristen replies: No, the Ghostbuster is Egon Spengler. Egon Schiele = avant 20th century German painter, friend of Klimt. XX, Kristen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 50158120 at xxx.hk Thu Feb 10 15:34:32 2000 From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 23:34:32 +0800 Subject: Sinister: get me away from here, i am dying. Message-ID: <950196872.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk> Hey! Mates! Lucy: I talk in the way i write. Kin Woo: God, u ve seen ATR? I ve heard Alec Empire... and ATR. it is funny. And I like Cat Power too. in Rolling Stone website u can see their vdo. Ah Fai/Modboy2: I am the boy at Chemical Suzy that nite. I still waiting for another Hong Kong sinister meeting. Richard L and Franny: I bought If You're Feeling Sinister? in Mongkok(Hollywood), just 95. Dirty Sad News #1 This is the 6th or 7th day of Chinese New Year I went to a open air food shop and the chef is still on his holiday till monday. So, we can only eat simple stuff like pork chop and egg with rice...etc. I wanna eat fired rice or fired noodle. Dirty Sad News #2 Just read the local magazine, APC's Hong Kong brench is closed. No one is told that it will be closed. I luv APC too much. I can order it online but the size is a problem. U dunno if a tee or a knitwear is 100% fit your body or not. their unwash denim is too fucking great. But it is "dry clean only"... Their stuff is too good i wish it was not closed. so i can buy stuff in Hong Kong. Agnes b can't beat APC even Boss of APC was working in Agnes b. B and S Content: I , finally buy If You're Feeling Sinster today. It is good and luvly. but some songs are like other B n S songs. Any comment bout the jeepster LP Record Bag? Hair cut: i ve a noel like hairdo today. it will be ian brown like.... Miss U All, See ya, Toby Chan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GBCH at xxx.uk Thu Feb 10 18:12:44 2000 From: GBCH at xxx.uk (Chris_t_opher) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:12:44 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Blimey, she's got a big pair..... References: <200002082304.XAA07582@missprint.org> Message-ID: <000a01bf73f3$010dec00$5518883e@gsh> ....erm Hello Mentees (?) Ms. Rachel Tuck-her-in would have written (if she had written (and she just happened to write)): >d'you know i've been on this list on and off for nearly a year (i >think) now, and in all that time i've been convinced peter miller and honey >were one and the same person! i have absolutely no idea why i thought that, >but obviously i did so apologies to you both, and it really is true that you >learn something new everyday. which is nice... When i first joined, i thought the exact same thing! I think it had something to do with their email addys or the like. Anywaaaaaay..... I've noticed that the Sun isn't in such a hurry to go away nowadays. That's a good thing....i think. Erm. I've got an MP3 of my old band if anyone wants to listen. The quality is pretty bad compared to the CD i copied it from - my 'puter is dodgy-like - but it shows our potential (or lack there-of). Chris_t_opher at yahoo.com anyway. The weather here is a bit erratic at the moment. This morning when i woke up, it was pouring down and then when i was walking to school, it was nice and sunny. It was really windy when i walked home and now it's hailing. It's a good job someone invented windows and walls and doors cos otherwise......i'd be dead, i guess. In a vein attempt to reduce embarassement amongst my peers, i will now commence in spamming (hey, even Jeepster do it!): POPEX IS GRATE. USE THIS LIKE COS IT'S ALL LUCKY-LIKE AND YOU WILL GET £5,000 IF YOU DO: http://www.popex.com/cgi-bin/popEx.cgi?Mentor=2377 Anyone want to take me to a gig? I haven't been to one for.....SIX MONTHS and that was only REM (w/ Teenage Fanclub :)). So, TAKE ME AWAY PLEASE! This was disjointed.... I am lost. Chris_t_opher - King of Lost Property +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grreth at xxx.com Thu Feb 10 22:05:00 2000 From: grreth at xxx.com (gareth jenkinson) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:05:00 GMT Subject: Sinister: erica's picture gallery Message-ID: <38b03600.9397825@mail.iname.com> like may of you i have been considering sending erica a picture of me in one of my finest outfits. however, a webpage has been brought to my attention which has made me seriously reconsider. i think there's a much more, errm, sinister motive behind her desire for the pictures and i think her other webpage, http://www.scarleteen.com/pink/ask_body.html gives an taste of what she has in mind. fuck knows what she'd do with a picture of me dressed as a lollipop man, though. gareth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittenmouse at xxx.com Fri Feb 11 02:08:25 2000 From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (kitten mouse) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:08:25 PST Subject: Sinister: valentines day and whatnot. Message-ID: <20000211020825.16806.qmail@hotmail.com> hi kids, can i call you kids? i had a really depressing day today. last night i heard a answering machine tape of someone i know who died a couple of weeks before christmas and it just made my whole day seem horrible. that and i skipped my morning drawing class again today. i hope i don't flunk, that's all. i get really sad sometimes during the winter. it's because of the weather...it happens to a lot of people in the northwest, i guess. i went to a show at lewis and clark last night. my friends band Dear Nora played, but i got there too late to actually see them. i saw Kissing Book, and Sarah Dougher though. i like Kissing Book. i might ask them if they want to come be on the radio. my favorite song is Every Day is Valentines Day, and that would be cool if they visited the show, because it will be on valentine's day. anyway. gotta go. yer pal, andrea kittenmouse ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mep at xxx.net Fri Feb 11 02:19:15 2000 From: mep at xxx.net (mark powell) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:19:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: b&s article from a horrible record collector-y magazine hot off the press... In-Reply-To: <200002091737.RAA08084@missprint.org> References: <200002091737.RAA08084@missprint.org> Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 21125 bytes Desc: not available URL: From alexander.borgia at xxx.ca Fri Feb 11 02:53:08 2000 From: alexander.borgia at xxx.ca (Alexander Borgia) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:53:08 -0500 Subject: Sinister: You are a Belle and Sebastian Song Message-ID: <38A37994.1D06E61@sympatico.ca> Now hang your head in shame. Recently I learned that Miss Honey has a brother who used to cheat at Monopoly when they were younger. Which is something normal for children, but is still quite thoughtless to a developing mind. Poor Miss Honey has been scarred for life because of this and cannot ever live on a street with all green houses, nor push a wheel barrow with an iron in it while wearing a top hat. So tragic. I decided to take it upon myself to rough up Miss Honey's brother and lock him in a dumpster for a few days as punishment. Unfortunately at the time of the confrontation Miss Honey's sibling presented the all powerful "Get Out of Jail Free" card which, naturally, had to be respected. (but not before he stepped in some really smelly fresh dog poo, and he was wearing shoes with a deep tread so he will have to dig it out with a pencil) This has left me in possession of a "Get Out of Jail Free" card and a bit of unreleased aggression. I am going to rough you lot up and throw you in the dumpster as punishment. I am submitting the "Get Out of Jail Free" card. Right now there are 1211 members on the Sinister Mailing list. This post is written every single one of those 1211 and you are to take this personally. Please don't skip ahead because questions will be asked at the end of it. For those who are mathematically challenged, I am including myself in the 1211. You are an asshole. Through your thoughtless behaviour you have caused someone to feel bad and you have insinuated to them that they don't matter. You have hurt their feelings deeply and you have compounded it by not even caring to notice. Before you disagree with me you must realize that I am talking about behaviour which is an action or an inaction that has a negative impact on someone else and you don't realize its impact. A really good example of thoughtless behaviour is drinking and driving. I really hope that nobody on the list is stupid and thoughtless enough to do that. When alcohol and cars are combined eventually someone will end up dying. The dead don't care, they are dead. The living do and that is why people get sad and cry at funerals. Worse than killing someone is maiming them for life. Since this list is a B&S list, this subject is entirely on topic. In case you haven't been paying attention, many of their songs are about people treating others poorly. An apology is like a Band-Aid. It acknowledges the wound and helps make it heal, but it does not make it heal, only time can do that. But apologies lose their value if they are not sincere or if they do not result in a change in behaviour. How really sorry can you be if you keep doing the same things over again. Rather than point out specific incidents, or pull examples from the list or discuss the things that we can do to change our own behaviour and make a difference. I'll leave you to figure it out for yourself. You can decide how much of a selfish asshole you want to be. Although there are many clichés saying "what goes around comes around" and similar expressions, that is indeed very true and I have seen it many times, such with the individual who decided to participate with a nutso woman in making my life difficult last year by doing some things like making false accusations to the police and my employer which wear easily proven to be false. He ended up contracting flesh eating disease on his chest last September, he was an asshole to lots of people. Start thinking about how you are making people feel. On Monday I asked 7 listees who had initiated corresponded with me if I could ask a favour. The favour was to borrow their Crush vote until this weekend at which time I would ask them to move it somewhere else. I indicated that I would be posting to the list tonight and I wanted to demonstrate a point regarding thoughtless behaviour. I also indicated that they could choose not to participate and I would not take offence. I received four replies saying yes, and three e-mails went unanswered. At the time of writing I have 3 votes. I will allow you to draw any conclusions you would like, but bear in mind that you are not to draw conclusions about the individual participants, look at it as a play. I would like to thank the individuals who participated and those who have voted for me to vote for someone else per below. Since I have given you the "Get Out of Jail Free" card you may use it. Monday is Valentine's Day. You may want to rant and rave about it being set up by the greeting card companies but the truth is that humans have been celebrating love in different ways since we first started sniffing up stream. You can celebrate Christmas, birthdays and all those special days but the one day that everyone freaks about is Valentine's Day. Save the denial shit, I know better. This is the day when you want to feel that you matter. This is also the day when you get to tell other people that they matter. There are about 75 votes cast on the Crush list. That is 0.06% have elected to to tell someone on the list that they matter. Basically, you get until Monday morning to tell someone that they matter. If you don't vote for someone on the list so that on Valentine's Day someone wakes up to see that they matter, then you are telling everyone on the list as well as yourself that you are a thoughtless asshole. Don't not vote to spite me and don't leave your vote to someone else. The only way you get out of this is if you don't get this until after Monday. If you don't get a vote on Monday morning, it doesn't mean that you don't matter because the change from 0.06% will tell you whether you matter or not, you only matter if you vote. And nobody is allowed to vote for me because I want you to tell other people they matter, nor should everyone vote for the same people over and over again. If you have already voted for someone then you have to move your vote to someone else. To those who will be losing a vote as a result of this then you will know that the person who voted for you is not a thoughtless asshole. You can return your votes on Tuesday. When you are done that, go send someone else a virtual Valentine wish from one of these sites: http://www.bluemountain.com/ http://www.kinkycards.com/ Now everybody get their shit together and act like the responsible adults you will have to pretend to be some day. Alexander Questions: Has anyone noticed that in the Northern Hemisphere that Venus is beautiful at 7 in the morning right now? Look toward southeast. Why are you still reading this and not voting for someone? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From markniciu at xxx.com Fri Feb 11 06:01:05 2000 From: markniciu at xxx.com (Mark Niciu) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:01:05 PST Subject: Sinister: Tomorrow (11 Feb) - Brownies, NYC - the Clientele Message-ID: <20000211060105.81994.qmail@hotmail.com> List abuse again but here goes nuttin', If you are planning to check out the Clientele at Brownies (169 Avenue A in the East Village, NYC) tomorrow night (or if you'd like to purchase tickets - only $10 - go to http://www.ticketweb.com and follow the links), stop by the Korova Milk Bar (200 Avenue A) at around 7-7:30 and chill with some cool cats. If you're wondering how you'll meet the select few who have decided to attend...erm, good question...I'll be wearing a grey Chemical Brothers T-shirt if that helps any? Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the Clientele closes the show which will probably end well after midnight as there as five acts total. Therefore, if you already bought tickets for the Kids in the Hall, don't think that this precludes you from seeing a band that someone described to me as a "melancholic Belle and Sebastian", whatever that means. Lurker status re-engaged, Mark ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Fri Feb 11 07:53:28 2000 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 23:53:28 PST Subject: Sinister: sorry about this. Message-ID: <20000211075328.52897.qmail@hotmail.com> Firstly, sorry about this mail. I'm not sure if I should send this, but after a long night of thinking I decided to do so. >February 7, 2000 >WBC to picket Finland�s dyke president in Helsinki > >Yesterday, Feb. 6, Finland elected a dyke president -- Tarja Halonen >-- >thereby blaspheming God and inviting His wrath as with ancient >Sodom. Gen. >19; Jude 7. The Finns who visit WBC�s Web site -- >godhatesfags.com -- are >troubled. WBC has determined to send a >missionary team to Helsinki next >Summer to >preach to those depraved >sinners in religious protest and >warning, with Gospel singing and >signs: GOD HATES FAGS, FAGS DOOM NATIONS, >AIDS CURES FAGS, FAGS DIE >GOD LAUGHS, FAGS BURN IN HELL, etc. REPENT! WBC >will burn Finland�s flag in Helsinki, as we did Canada�s flag >last Aug. 2 >After Canada�s Sup. Ct. endorsed same-sex marriage, WBC >demonstrated and >burned the Maple Leaf flag on Parliament Hill in >Ottawa. WBC will do the >same in Helsinki, burning Finland�s filthy >fag flag in holy protest there. >If Finland denies visas, WBC will sue Finland in international EC and > >United Nations courts charging Finland with religious >discrimination and persecution. The world will see if Finland fags >believe >in tolerance and diversity for all. Now, I think that I'm pretty good with words. But sometimes I just have to sit quiet and not say/write a thing. Like now. At first I thought the site www.godhatesfags.com, where that is from, was a joke. It isn't. Visit the site and see for yourself. Now, I'm not in any position to slag off anything/anyone. I've been a real dick, past and present (and future, I'm sure), so I have no rights to judge anyone. But that site is EVIL. Religion, just like politics, bores the hell out of me, but see what it does to people? I personally think that the Big Book is the root of everything, good and evil. Some people live by the Book, and that's fine by me. They do a good job when they use their brains. But one thing the Book creates is fuckheads like these guys. We all have these thoughts that scare ourselves, when we're just about to fall asleep at night and suddenly we find ourselves thinking things we'd never EVER even imagine telling anyone, because they'd lock you up. Sometimes for your own safety, sometimes for the safety of others. But since yesterday, when I visited the site, I've been thinking those things all the time. I'd just LOVE to see those people at the edge of the cliff. And push 'em. Ok, that site probably is made to provocate people. But that does not justify it's existence. Sometimes the freedom of speech is not such a good thing. I'll leave you with this bit from the same pages about Matthew Shepard, who was beaten to death by two men for being gay. I won't say a word. Except the people who run that site are in need of medical help. And PLEASE, understand that this is a serious thing. >When Matthew Shepard died on October 12, 1998, every pervert in this > >country (from Bill Clinton on down) used hisdeath as a soap box to > >promote so-called "gay rights." In religious protest of this, WBC > >picketed the funeral of Matthew Shepard, to inject a little truth and > >sanity into the irrational orgy of lies consuming this world. WBC >does >not support the murder of Matthew Shepard, and we believe that >his >murderers are in violation of God's commandment that "thou shalt >not kill." Unless they repent, they will receive the same sentence >that >Matthew Shepard received - eternal fire. However, the truth >about Matthew >Shepard needs to be known. He lived a Satanic >lifestyle. He got himself >killed trolling for anonymous homosexual >sex in a bar at midnight . Unless >he repented in the final hours of >his life, he is in hell. He will be in >hell for all eternity, "where >their worm dieth not, and the fire is not >quenched." Mark 9:44. For >each day that passes, he has only eternity to >look forward to. All >the candlelight vigils, all the tributes, all the >acts of Congress, >all the rulings by the Supreme Court of the United >States, will not >shorten his sentence by so much as one day. And all the >riches of the >world will not buy him one drop of water to cool his tongue. >Those of you reading this Gospel Memorial need to have a very clear > >understanding that there is a God in heaven, and He has created a >hell >for people who despise His commandments. If you are living a >life where >you disregard the commandments of God, l ike Matthew >Shepard did, or if >you are supportive of such a lifestyle (either >overtly, or through your >apathy), you need to repent. And you need to >repent now, because God will >appear to you when you least expect it, >saying "thou fool, this night thy >sou l shall be required of thee." >Luke 12:20. Just like He did to Matthew >Shepard. Once again, sorry about this. But sometimes I just can't shut up. @---<--- Jake le PetitE ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jda349 at xxx.edu Fri Feb 11 08:11:21 2000 From: jda349 at xxx.edu (Joseph Askins) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:11:21 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Flaming Lips Tour and the WBC References: <200002110755.HAA26750@missprint.org> Message-ID: <38A3C429.95733F57@mizzou.edu> Found out tonight that the Flaming Lips are embarking on a tour of the Midwest, and, sho' nuff, they're coming to Columbia. Happy day! I read a little while back that Looper was going to be supporting the Lips' next tour--is this it? I can't find any info, so anyone who knows is more than welcome to speak up. Jarkko--yeah, welcome to the ridiculous, intolerant world of the WBC. These loonies have been at it for quite some time--I remember hearing about them even before Matt Shepard was murdered. They've protested in my hometown twice now, once at the opening of the new Northwest Arkansas Regional Airport (President Clinton spoke at the opening), and again in front of the town courthouse during the trial of two men who allegedly raped and murdered a little boy. Very few things scare me in this world, but the WBC probably comes very close. I can't understand that sort of intolerance, and I'm pretty sure I never want to understand it. I blame it on fervent fundamentalism. Go figure...sigh... Well, it's time to get back to my music reviews...the new Mouse on Mars album is going into format this week, and I have nary a word written. Joseph Askins Columbia, MO +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Fri Feb 11 08:40:41 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 03:40:41 -0500 Subject: Sinister: A Spaced Boy's Dream Message-ID: <200002110340_MC2-98B2-F790@compuserve.com> Hi Fragrant Ones! My first B&S dream! Last night I dreamt that after nearly 12 months of nothing happening from Belle & Sebastian (at least that was available in public) one of the members left the band, & that despite this momentous news Sinister was so far up its collective bottom that the event passed without comment (apart from some poor bloke who empties the bins at a national newspaper in the UK) As usual I made myself wake up from this nightmare, & thought that if it were to come to pass that Stuart David did in fact leave the band I would miss him & pretty tunes like Winter Wooskie or Paper Boat being played live a lot , but would wish him well in all his new ventures. I would hope that he has every success with all of him. As to filling the gap in the band left by his departure, we know that Stuart M, Isobel, Chris & Neil can all play bass. I hope that the quietly self-deprecating & pish-taking humour & his ability not to take himself too seriously role gets adequately covered too. Bye, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sadandsentimental at xxx.com Fri Feb 11 05:15:52 2000 From: sadandsentimental at xxx.com (Curtis Heath) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 23:15:52 -0600 Subject: Sinister: bus related post Message-ID: Today, I drove a hyperactive child named Jeremy home in the 'special-needs' short bus. Continuously, throughout the route, Jeremy clawed the back of the seat in front of him. The hyperactivity had the effect of making him impervious to the fact that his fingers had become bloody. The poor boy couldn't even listen when I shouted "Jeremy, stop your hurting yourself!" Eventually I must gotten through to him and the clawing stopped. Twenty minutes of silent riding later, we arrived at Jeremy's house. He didn't get up and sprint to the swinging bus doors as is the norm for any hyperactive child, so I walked back. He was still in his seat. In some sort of remorseful fashion, he had tied his hands together with the seat belt- tight as a pair of handcuffs. The circulation was restricted and each finger was as purple as a plumb. He looked up at me very ashamed and said "I had to tie up my spiders... You wanna help me let 'em out?" It's really made my day that people have been posting about Egon Scheille. I still have hope in the Sinister list. . MailCity. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Fri Feb 11 10:50:38 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:50:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: A Spaced Boy's Dream In-Reply-To: <200002110340_MC2-98B2-F790@compuserve.com> Message-ID: David Moore said: > My first B&S dream! > > Last night I dreamt that after nearly 12 months of nothing happening from > Belle & Sebastian (at least that was available in public) one of the > members left the band, & that despite this momentous news Sinister was so > far up its collective bottom that the event passed without comment David dreaming about bottoms again I see. Next he'll be sending people sheep as a "gift"! Anyway, yes point taken, so you're all hereby invited in an exception to usual list behaviour to actually discuss Belle and Sebastian. Here's something on it from nme.com to get your motor running. See it at: http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/20000210200050.html --- BELLE AND SEBASTIAN LOSE BASSIST BELLE AND SEBASTIAN bassist STUART DAVID has left the band to focus more on his own band LOOPER and to write more novels. Stuart, one of the founding members of the group, rang nme.com today to confirm the news, despite that fact that only last month, the band's management strenuosly denied the story when we asked them if it was true. He told nme.com: "It was a rumour officially up until about a week ago. About two weeks ago, I finally had a meeting with everyone, what, with the album being finished, to see what everyone wanted to do." I decided then that I was spending too much time with Looper and with my novel to be able to keep contributing enough Belle & Sebastian, or to tour again with them. It was all very amicable and we'll stay friends." Stuart, who recently released his debut novel 'Nalda Said' continued that he would not be replaced in the band, as most of the rest of the band could play bass and would take it in turns to fill his old position. However, Stuart said he would still join the band when they recorded their session for John Peel's Radio One show on March 1 - but it would be the last time he played with them. Looper will then join The Flaming Lips on their forthcoming US tour as support. For the rest of this exclusive interview, see next week's issue of NME. --- And what's all this about the new EP collection being called "Error Bookmark Not Defined"? I've often pondered if there could be anything more awful than naming a band "co.uk". I mean blimey! Surely it's not even a possible error? "Error 404" would be much more appropriate. Or "Error Miss Crush Says: You Can't Vote For Yourself!". Is it really true Radio One genuinely thought it was called this as the result of a cockup? Tell me it isn't so. Oh and: not only did Esosoft, the previous list providers so mess us up that they took away our list with 2 days notice before Miss Print at missprint.org plucked it out the flames, but they've now resurrected an old version of it through fabulous incompetence! Meaning that a few people who mistakenly sent to the old address actually got posts through to a subscriber list from two months ago, like a ghostly echo of times from longe agoe. I've tried to kill it dead now but please all remember to post to the new list address: sinister at missprint.org That applies to unsubscriptions too: some people are still sending to the old address. Pleeeease remember to send to: majordomo at missprint.org Honey x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian at xxx.uk Fri Feb 11 11:10:34 2000 From: ian at xxx.uk (ian) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:10:34 -0000 Subject: Sinister: nobody knows i'm a lesbian Message-ID: <000101bf7480$bd665760$544a883e@default> hello my dark-yet-shiny-stars, as dear, dear erica was kind enough to notice, i have been absent from the shores of that virtual island we castaways like to call sinister for some time. i'm afraid i went paddling in the waters of real life and got bitten by a crisis-shark that was crusing in the shallow waters. it pulled me far, far out to sea and it was only with the help of a gaggle of passing vodka-fuelled dolphins that i was able to make it back to the beach... and the beach is so beautiful, i will stay and bask for a while. just one question.. where the FUCK IS LEONARDO DI CAPRIO? yeah, a mile of sand is all very bloody well and a few friggin trees oh-so-dreamily waving their fronds in the tropical breeze is great i'm sure but i wanna get my rocks off. i've been here nearly 2 hours now and still i haven't been rogered by a bronzed blonde adonis...what the buggery bollocks is going on? oh. erm...hi....the gay dirty den is back. so...down to business....alasdair, get your kecks down and bend over! oh no, that wasn't what i meant to say at all..i think its that sea-water in my head.. the lovely mr cook said: >Anyway, well done to the Manic Street Preachers for getting to number >one without the use of any cynical marketing ploys, oh no. What we need >is more po-faced sloganeering at the top of the charts, that's what I >say. Vive la revolution! quite so. "a slave begins by demanding freedom and ends by wanting to hold the whip".... was it me, or was that song a bunch of pretentious bollocks? oh, silly question, it was a manics song.. and whilst we're on the subject of revolutions, i saw something very bizarre the other sunday morning. crawling out of bed to face the day, i was greeted by that strange sunday am entertainment programme with the drop-dead-have-me-here-slap-me-on-the-patio-i'll-take-it-slow presenter. if you've seen it, you know the one i mean...and what were they featuring? ben from a1 singing tracy chapman's "talking 'bout a revolution"? how strange. has trying to write lyrics with political meaning become absolutely meaningless when a boyband can sing about organised violent revolt on an entertainment programme? it seems so. face it boys, come the revolution you'll be first against the wall..... although you won't be getting shot.. i was also very taken by robert foster's subject line: > Sarah Cracknell - I want to be Sarah Cracknell well my love, your wish is my command. i will take you home and lock you in my cellar. remember to shout every once in a while or i might forget you're there. onto other matters...my friends, i am concerned. it seems that we have a criminal in our midst. i am sorry to have to break this news do you know who it is? i think you do. examine your consciences everybody...are they clean? (are they really?) (no....fuckin really? NO WAY.....time you did something really BAD then) erm what was i saying? oh yes..it saddens me to have to point this out but sarah clarke must be brought to justice. oh yes, my dear, you know what you have done. several weeks ago a small pottery pterodactyl came flying your way and has not been seen since. i have had spies watching you, and they tell me there are muffled squawks coming from your freezer. you are RUMBLED! just WHAT were you planning anyway? people don't EAT pterodactyls, they're an endangered species yknow. sort of like anne widdecombe but prettier. set it free my love, set it free with a poem and let it fly...otherwise i shall have to punish you. and you don't want to be punished by the gay dirty den. and proclamations like * Toilet Duck forever! do not count. although it does get into all the nooks and crannies. finally, jarkko quoted the following: . WBC has determined to send a >missionary team to Helsinki next >Summer to >preach to those depraved >sinners in religious protest and >warning, with Gospel singing and >signs: GOD HATES FAGS, FAGS DOOM NATIONS, >AIDS CURES FAGS, FAGS DIE >GOD LAUGHS, FAGS BURN IN HELL, etc. REPENT! WBC these people really have no idea what faith is. faith is about love. its not about differentiating yourself from others, its about seeing the humanity in us all. i think jesus (if the guy existed) summed it up pretty well when he said "judge not, that you be not judged". having said that, the fact that people think like this challenges my faith in humanity. i'd like to believe that every person is important and has something good to offer the world, but when you hear things like this its hard to avoid the conclusion that there are some people that the world would simply be better off without. as my friend amrit once put it "ian..... some people HAVE no redeeming features" oh, that wasn't very dirty den was it? no, no, no...i'm out of practice at this business.. never stopped looking, never stopped looking for le-e-eo..(looking out for leoo) god, my arse is sore. very clean ian ---------------------- "dreams are just like wine and i am drunk on mine" mama cass +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Fri Feb 11 11:34:18 2000 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:34:18 BST Subject: Sinister: why is the room spinning? Message-ID: <2C1277792C@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> its 11:09 am and i'm drunk - fantastic! recovering from birthday celebrations last night, but i was up in time to go to uni this morning, and then i thought, no thats just not rock'n'roll enough to be up at this time, so i went back to bed, but then i got bored so i came to check my email. i have just read about 40 posts and i have very little idea what any of them said. the world looks quite fuzzy remind me to drink my milk before i go home, so it doesn't go off at the beginning of this week i was all set to post about how terrible people are, how no-one can be trusted, particularly glamorous and pretentious people (not necessarily one and the same, but you know what i mean) this came about because the people i was supposed to be living with sold me out and found themselves rooms in a house, and then left someone else to break the news to me. needless to say i sulked. (the story is in fact more complicated and involves various relationships which i can't work out at this time of the morning, but you get the idea) anyway, i held back from posting my trauma to you, and i'm glad, because my faith in human nature has now been restored. i received an apology from said people, and two offers of places to live and birthday cards and stuff from friends that i wasn't sure liked me. the moral of the story is, well i'm not sure, everything's going quite hazy again, i think i've got a hangover coming on. but if any of the above made any sense i'm sure you can work it out for yourselves. laura llew talked about that song with fiona in it, someone on the internet told me about that before, but i've never heard it, so if someone would do me a tape or something, that would be fantastic. lots (well 2 anyway) of people talked about queer as folk - mmmm - queer as folk, i was talking to someone on the bus the other night who was rilly rilly excited because she'd just met the rilly camp blond guy who does his hair in a sort of pointy way. and every time its on my flatmate insists on repeating the story of how she nearly wandered into shot on canal street when they were filming and had to be dragged back. anyone want to get extremely drunk with me on valentines day? its the first one for years when i haven't had a boyfriend. raaaaaaa going to stumble towards linear algebra now, love and jaffa cakes (jaffa cakes in burger king!), fiona 'any waste of effort isn't part of my design' in fact i'm just lazy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Fri Feb 11 13:38:22 2000 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:38:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Tuc Biscuits and Richard O'Sullivan In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20000209150538.006b5888@ampsys.co.uk> Message-ID: Martin Robinson said: > Or maybe my Grandmother was right. She once said while looking at > an old photo of me and me in person, what a shame you used to such a > handsome boy. Which was a bit harsh, especially as I was about 13 at the > time. You are SO right my dear.That's the story of my life.Since I was 13 at least I am periodically and dutifully remembered by the senior members of our family how lovely a toddler I made.When I was three or four,apparently most human beings stop in the street to admire me.And when I look into my own pictures, yes,I was GRATE. All cheeks and cheeky and a chatterbox and playful.The time of my life. I saw yesterday 'American Beauty' and that above is somehow related with my concerns about becoming like Lester some time in the next future...If in order to recover the beauty I lost I try to go back to my prime, instead of smoking GM dope and playing Sid Barrett's old chums (70's Who soundtrack would have been a touch of distinction), I am afraid I would have to squander my grant in a vintage trycicle and start a diet mainly consisting of fruit yoghurts.But after a sort of Sinister inspired visit to an Early Learning Centre, it is not the way to go.Some B&S fan seemed frightened when I said I didn't even like toys back then.Am I joyless? And I nearly got Gingko Biloba to give a try, looking for inspiration. But then recognizing the boring,traditional individual I am, purchased some rought Scottish oatcakes I have been nibling constantly since. Some other bit related with 'American Beauty' : we went yesterday to an Italian restaurant where Julio Iglesias' greatest hits were constantly played over and over again , apparently to provide a Mediterranean atmosphere to the meal. I don't know if we could regard HULIO (as my dad calls him) as elevator music, and his degree of appeal to Annette Benning's character, but I couldn't help thinking of her while we enjoyed the food,not so much the tunes. Maybe if haggis is on your plate, Struan would help with your digestion, but it is more likely the restaurant staff played along something like The Royal Balmoral Command of Bagpipers Golden Moments,quite un-imaginatively. xxxx A-R-A-N-T-X-A > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Fri Feb 11 14:28:27 2000 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 06:28:27 -0800 Subject: Sinister: let's talk about yes Message-ID: hello folks, << IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT YES THEN I CAN TALK ABOUT PIGEONS >> rescued a pigeon last week. it wasn't a very daring rescue. i got home and there was a pigeon on the doorstep. i opened the door and the pigeon walked into the house. i think it had just been hit by a car or something, but it was only stunned and the rspca thought it would be ok. amanda reckons that pigeons are diseased vermin and made me scrub the house with disinfectant. << IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT YES THEN I CAN TALK ABOUT URIAH HEEP >> there's this track by the john schroeder orchestra featuring an uncredited vocalist who sounds very much like dave byron - the original vocalist with crap 1970s heavy metal band uriah heep. as part of my ongoing research into the life and times of john schroeder i emailed the uriah heep website to try and find out if it really is the late hippy metaller. the uriah heep website is run by a very helpful chap, and he forwarded my question on to the band. i have now received a reply from mick box, hairy guitarist and sole remaining member of the original line up of uriah heep. this is what the man with the cheekiest grin in rock said: "I have no idea..Sorry mate, Mick Box." more uriah heep later. << IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT YES THEN I CAN TALK ABOUT STUART DAVID >> i hope this doesn't mean that paper boat will never be released. will anyone be able to tell the difference between a "part time" member of the band and a "full time" member of the band who hides at the back and doesn't turn up half the time anyway? i'm not suggesting that it's not a shame or anything, but personally i'm looking forward to more low slung bass action from struan now. << IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT YES THEN I CAN TALK ABOUT KEVIN BACON >> a couple of weeks ago someone asked about a musical version of the degrees of kevin bacon thing (looked in the archive but couldn't find the message). anyway, if you wanted to link b&s to other bands there are a couple of good places to start. as recently mentioned stevie sometimes plays with the bill wells octet, as do members of such bands as the pastels. even better, mick played on a record by mojave 3 also featuring the prolific pedal steel player bj cole. bj cole has appeared on more records than anyone else in history, even a 1970s uriah heep record. this makes b&s two kevin bacon type steps from uriah heep. i'm done now, kevan p.s. congratulations ailsa. see you in vegas. *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From messentw at xxx.uk Fri Feb 11 15:34:10 2000 From: messentw at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?William=20Messent?=) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:34:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Roses are red, Violets are blue, If you're on the blob, I'll go up trap two* Message-ID: <20000211153410.23699.qmail@web308.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Children, Well it's been a while. I do hope that you are all keeping well and happy. Anyway, to business. I think we all know why we're here. Brandt said; >>Do you guys know anything about the band Hood? They are playing Cleveland March 10 and I want to know if it is worth my trouble to go see them play. Yes, Brandt, it is worth you going to see them play. They are a fantastic band from Leeds, I've seen them about a million times (roughly) and have yet to see a duff show. I can only advise any other US listees to check em out if they're in yo' are-a. They don't sound much like B&S mind you. Not really. To find out more, go to the links section of the Remote Viewer page. Speaking of which, the Remote Viewer are off to Germany for a week or so of Monkees-style hi-jinx. We're off all over the place; Munster, Frankfurt, Dresden, Berlin, Bielefeld, and Hannover (I think). Any German listees should come and have a look really. We don't sound much like B&S mind you. Thanks to Jucy Lucy for the Stu D news. Blimey. Eh? Good luck to the boy I say. I hear Stu M has been spotted trying to bribe Andy Bell to take his place. Him or that bloke out of Northern Uproar. Sister Disco said; >>Do you know how close I got to the kingfisher the other day? Very close indeed. The fish-obsessed arsehole didn't evenrealise. Tell me about it. I saw an anteater in a zoo as a child. Knocked on it's cage and everything. Ant-obsessed twat never even looked up. Till next time, I shall bid you farewell. See you in the chatroom. Goodnight, ladies, Love Will x *sorry. ===== Visit The Remote Viewer homepage http://www.members.tripod.com/remoteviewer/ ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Fri Feb 11 16:33:23 2000 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:33:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: A Spaced Boy's Dream Message-ID: <80256882.005B1683.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> I too have been out-raged by the lack of interest in Stuart David leaving the band. Anyone would think the kids just *didn't care*. I know you all think he smells of piss and everything, but imagine how hurt he'd be if he found out how expendable he's considered. I'm starting to think Sinister is a bit freaky after all. There's this hilarious scene in 'American Beauty' where the daughter and her starey-eyed saintly boyfriend have a showdown with blondebitch and scream something like "You're so ordinary. We're freaks. We'll always be freaks so ner." It's a bit like 'Misshapes' but with less panache. OK, so I did take time out from emptying the bins to remark upon the latest news, but I didn't have much to say, did I? Why can't we think of anything much to say? Maybe it's because it was such predictable news, even when Carsmile Steve started the rumour. Or maybe it's because everyone thought A Space Boy Dream was an 'ill-advised excursion into leaden-booted funk'. Oh no, that was 'Barbarism Begins at Home'. I think he's an important member of the band, even if he just plays bass and writes a mix of cutesy singalongs and breakbeat babblings. I can't put your finger on why, but his presence somehow matters. He's the Bez of Belle & Sebastian. I do like 'Winter Wooskie'. I think it's his best song he's written about him and wee Karn's terrific romance. 'Paper Boat' is a just a bit *too* wet, even for me. I don't mean any of this very much. Well anyway, if no one is inspired to talk about the latest news, I'm going to revert to replying to messages from the archive. This week, late October 1997: Walter [jacques.buron at wanadoo.fr] wrote: >I've just read this in a french fanzine (Crême Anglaise, there's also > an interview of Stuart David and Chris Geddes in it...) >Stephen, of The Pastels, is answering a question about his hobbies : >" I'm working in a library. I'm doing some writing also. I'm actually > qoing to do a book with Stuart Murdoch of Belle and Sebastian. We're > going to tell the story of Glasgow music from Orange Juice. It may be > a book, but it will probably end up as a pamphlet! To both of us Orange > Juice was a really important thing. We are very close to each other in > Glasgow, we have so many things in common..." Whatever happened to this idea? It sounds like a surefire bestseller. Maybe they fell out over whether 18 Wheeler warranted a chapter all to themselves. ****** Johnston, John CT wrote: >The thing about Monica's bit on LLPJ is that it's so not Belle & >Sebastian. Which makes it all the more great. Like the crazy keyboards >on the as yet unreleased (how cool am i??) Tigermilk [the track not the >mysterious lost album of the Incas] when they played it at Oxford; it >was like a new texture or new dimension to their sound. Suddenly the >band were rocking, or even rockin' (blimey!). That's what I love about >B&S - so much variety yet with a clear common thread that keeps their >work coherent. Phew yeah - and whatever happened to the rockin' Tigermilk. I never heard it myself. When did they last play it? Scottish bands like doing this 'track named after previous album' thing, don't they? 'The Scream' (I love it when rachel says this) and the Jesus the Mary Chain have done it as well. ****** Commenting on Stuart D's 'Little Ink Movies', Andy Dean wrote: >duke: >>Chris is wearing 'metallic sky blue nail polish'. >>Nice to know that others are following the >>manifesto as set down by the Living Room >>Collective back in April ;-) >chris was wearing nail polish at the borderline gig last >november. Has anyone been keeping track of what Belle & Sebastian members have been wearing on their nails since then? ****** Last and least, Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta wrote: >I suggest breaking an egg into the back of the broken >computer. It usually works for most things. and lots of other rubbish. Thought: What's Mark King doing these days? Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keythkeyth at xxx.net Fri Feb 11 17:15:08 2000 From: keythkeyth at xxx.net (keith mclachlan) Date: 11 Feb 00 09:15:08 PST Subject: Sinister: marina has the nicest packaging Message-ID: <20000211171508.5835.qmail@www0m.netaddress.usa.net> sorry if this has been sent before but marina is truly a wonderful label and we should all love the pearlfishers but this is b&s related as well-- currently in production-out in the spring-one of our most ambitious projects ever is this tribute album, which believe us - won't be your typical tribute album. The tracklist will concentrate on unknown and lesser known brian wilson/beach boys songs because what is the point of doig a cover version of 'god only knows'? so be prepared for some surprises, half of the album is already finished a couple of songs are still in production. the artist line-up includes, among others: norman blake the pearlfishers stevie jackson(from belle and sebastian) alex chilton the millionaire(combustible edison) katrina mitchell(the pastels) st etienne duglas stewart kim fowley eugene kelly june and the exit wounds malcolm ross camping secret goldfish eric matthews the aluminum group dot allison keith m ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Fri Feb 11 17:23:06 2000 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:23:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: making free with my lewd and lascivious boasts (fwd) Message-ID: OK you guys I sent the message below a couple of days ago but an evil wizard has obviously been messing round with my system cos we had some unexplained technical difficulties. first though I was thinking about the loss of Stu D I'm sorry to see him go but in a way I think it is for the best, Looper and his writing seemed to be consuming a large amount of his time and this is certainly a contributing factor to the time taken for the new album to be recorded. Also I think it will reduce the likelihood of a complete split of the band as they will be able to get on with their work without the difficulties of an often absent member. I don't know what I'd do if they split up the're one of the few groups that I listen to who are still active. I'm still recovering from the passing away of the wedding present and pavement, who were my two favourite bands back in 91 and who seemed to guide me through an entire decade with brilliant music. It worries me that ex members of these bands will start doing less brilliant music and defile my memories of their greatness. then again think how galaxie 500 are still treated as godlike beings even though Deans new band (well not new but you know what I mean) Luna are in fact a bit mediocre. well that's all from me for today but don't forget to read the stuff from me yesterday which is sitting down below there. love and nice thoughts owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:40:14 +0000 (GMT) From: The Narrow Wizard To: sinister Subject: making free with my lewd and lascivious boasts allo, I'm back. I was just wondering if anybody knew what any of the tracks were going to be on the new album. I mean will they all be ones we haven't heard or will the likes of paper boat and lonliness of a middle distance runner be on the album. Personally I was hoping for lots of new tracks on the album and an EP with the older tracks also appearing sometime, that would be pretty cool. Angel Blackwell said >I was rogering a vicar well it wasn't me, I'm not even a vicar just an ordained minister so you should call me reverand but not vicar OK. And now for a warning, the rest of this e-mail is an account of my last few days and as such it contains a story of much drunken buffoonery and lots of smut, there are no B&S references and those easily shocked are advised to stop reading now and delete this message. On sunday my new flatmates moved into the chalet, three american girls, being someone who knows his way around the local bars I offered to take them for a drink that night.after a few drinks an old friend called Angela came up to me, stuck an arm arround me and asked if I was out with my girlfriend, no sooner had the word single passed my lips then my lips were receiving a very passionate kiss. I didn't stay kissing her for too long though 'cos I didn't want to abandon the Americans and Angela didn't really want to abandon her friend Lesley (who by the way gave me a tape of tigermilk a few years ago). The night continued with more drink and more dancing and my flatmates started laughing at me and calling me studmuffin and saying that it was 'cos I look like hugh grant (which I don't). The friendly funny atmosphere and a bit of good music soon had us all dancing and ermm well the nicest looking one of the new flatmates was dancing quite close to me and pretty soon I was kissing my second woman of the day. We left soon after 'cos I was getting funny looks from Kathryn who I mentioned in a previous post. The american I was with, Jen, then found out the advantages of having a single room and not sharing like she does at Harvard. Unsurprisingly Monday was a bit akward round the flat but things are cool now. Later on monday night the Americans had some welcome meeting to go to so I went out with the lads. An ex of mine started snogging me early in the night but I managed to persuade the guys that we should go to a different bar and so we went and got very drunk. Tuesday night was the crazy one (yes even crazier than sunday) I went with a few of the lads and one of the Americans (not Jen) to a bar that was doing 50p vodkas, we drank a lot then went to the nightclub and drank a lot more. Getting home around 2:30 we refuelled on bacon sarnies before climbing to the top of a big hill nearby with a couple of bottles of wine. When we came back down it was around 4:00 and we started making cheese on toast. this was when there was a knock on the door and Hannah apeared with her friend Krissie and invited us over for a drink (they'd seen the light on). I said I'd go over after the toast and that's what I did. the first thing I saw when I got there was a naked bloke, I was just about to turn round and leave when Hannah poked her head from her room and told me to come through. We were talking in the bathroom as Hannah had a friend asleep on her floor, she told me that Krissie and stuart (who was the guy I'd seen) had decided to get naked cos it would be 'a laugh' and so I just stayed in the bathroom. Next Krissie walked into the bathroom totally naked cos she'd just realised what a stupid thing it was to be alone with stuart naked. For no apparent reason Krissie was embarassed by Hannah seing her naked but not by me seeing her and so to stop hannah seeing she decided to hold me close to her. At this point Hannah left and Krissie locked the door. I will just point out that bathroom floors are cold and uncomfortable but that fun can still be had there. By 5:00 though Krissie was screaming at me and crying accusing me of coming on to her and then using her. This was a bit strange as I've never come on to a girl in my life, I wouldn't know how to and so I just let them come on to me, it was even more strange when you consider that she was the one who walked into the room naked and started hugging me (I don't know what you guys think but I actually took this as her coming on to me, I obviously must have missread the signals at some point). Anway I left soon after that and have been behaving myself since. peace, I'm outta here owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rdossinger at xxx.net Fri Feb 11 18:01:34 2000 From: rdossinger at xxx.net (Reid Dossinger) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:01:34 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Does this mean the Century of Elvis is over? Message-ID: <38A44E7E.4BE06DB4@worldweb.net> Oh, my! What a fascinating digest! I couldn't put it down! Frankly, I hadn't even heard the news until David Moore's sarcastic letter, which will now always my entry into the "how did you first find out about Stuart David leaving B&S" conversations. And did anyone else realize how perfect it was that Mr. Moore points out that Sinister is "up it's own collective bottom" and then is more or less proved dead-on right? Like I said: Fascinating. So I'm sorry that Stuart #2 left the band. It's like Nick says: his presence more than anything will be missed. I think that's pretty much true for a lot of the members of B&S. Because frankly (I'm in a frank mood today), none of them can write songs that come close to touching Stuart M's songs. I know Struan is a really, really nice guy who loves his friends and is good at sharing and wants B&S to be a 'band', but let's face facts. B&S minus Murdoch equals a twee, moderately talented (I do *like* the others' songs) band that's not known outside of the UK, if they're *lucky*. Mind you, I'm talking about songwriting, not musicianship. Because in the latter respects, they're ALL winners!! But really, there are several other members who I think would be better off concentrating their efforts on their solo stuff (no names mentioned). Stuart D's just making the right move. Rather than trying to make B&S more like Looper, he's taking his ball and going home, which is how it should be. Because all this talk about more and more of the new album's songs being non-Struan songs is making me nervous. This departure news just makes me a little less so. What I'm wondering if there're any bassists around who are offended by the NME's implication that they're not replacing the Space Boy because, hey, *anyone* can play bass. That's the way I read it, anyway. Faced with the reality of it, in a dream, Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ar981611 at xxx.uk Fri Feb 11 18:10:41 2000 From: ar981611 at xxx.uk (Ailsa Ross) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:10:41 +0000 Subject: Sinister: b&s article from a horrible record collector-y magazine hot off the press... References: <200002091737.RAA08084@missprint.org> Message-ID: <38A450A1.7105C117@student.paisley.ac.uk> Hello kids mark powell wrote, and attached a great big load of bollocks , which finally answered the age old question, who or what is Elvis... > The'Lazy Line Painter Jane' EP is interesting for the fact that it contains the first Belle & Sebastian track written by Stuart David, 'A Century of Elvis'. He tells the tale of how he met his wife Kam (coconspirator in Looper), while underneath the band plays the track 'A Century of Fakers' So not a dog, or a cat, or even a stick of broccoli (see archives). Elvis is actually Wee Karn. How romantic. but what made the article amusing for me was > the only appearance of the catchy 'Belle & Sebastian'...Its randy drumming ... which made me laugh lots. I know the bloke who drummed on "Belle and Sebastian", and he's completely unbothered by the fact he drummed on a B&S record, and would probably piss himself laughing if described as "randy". Anyway... To answer the FAQs about my impending nuptials, 1. no, we haven't set a date (it'll be at least a year and half) 2. no, i'm not pregnant 3. he's called Neil 4. he will never like Belle and Sebastian, and I wouldn't expect him to 5. no you're not ALL invited, though some of you will be And, no I'm not *that* pleased about Stu D leaving. Even though I am convinced he is taking the piss with his songs, I still quite like them. Better than Looper anyway. Anyway, it leaves Isobel as my undisputed least favourite person in the band, and we can't be having that, people won't like it. I am pleased about John Barnes leaving Celtic however, as being a Celtic fan especially on efrom Inverness was becoming increasingly intolerable these last few days. DULL GLASWEGIAN ONLY BIT COMING UP.... Anyone going to see Vic Godard/Nectarine No 9 at the 13th Note tomorrow night? Me and Alasdair are, we'll see you there. Maybe. Ailsa xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From joss at xxx.ie Fri Feb 11 19:10:17 2000 From: joss at xxx.ie (Joss) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 19:10:17 GMT Subject: Sinister: a twisted friar's tartare Message-ID: <38a45e99.226d.0@esatclear.ie> Hello. I'm Joss. I've been here for some time, peering at you all. Some of you pick your nose. Hark at that Stuart David, then. Going straight to the NME with his tales of leaving B&S. I'll bet he's been dying to do tons of interviews but he had to wait until he got away from that mumsie Stuart Murdoch. He'd say "I think I'll go talk to Select and Sounds and Record Mirror today, Murdoch" to which Stu M would doubtless reply "awww.. no no, wittle man. stay heew, and i will put wittle pigtails in your haiw." "Ow! My hair's too short for bleeding pigtails..." "Pish and double-pish, Ronnie", Stu D would later say to his ever-faithful cousin who would give a wheezy laugh at grumpy old Stuart. "Will we ever be set free?" And finally they have. You can't but be pleased for the old curmudgeon. I just worry as to how Genevieve is going to take it. Props indeed to Mr Kevan to rescuing a pigeon. I rescued one recently too as some scumbags tried to kick the poor beggar. Far more impressive, though, is my attempted tiger theft. When I was about 10 I was brought to the circus where they had a little zoo out back. There was a cage full of the cutest little tiger cubs and when I pulled the door it turned out to be open. So I nabbed one of the little fellers and stuffed him in my jacket from where he poked his head out and licked my chin. On the way back to the car I started to think about how big he'd grow and how maybe this wasn't such a good idea after all so I brought him back. When I was outside the pub trying to stop the obnoxious drunks kicking the poor pigeon it occurred that if I had a tiger I could've had him bite their stupid faces off. But then, they wouldn't allow me bring a tiger to the pub so I would've had to stay at home and the pigeon would've been rightly fucked. So I like to think that everybody's better off as things are. Mad props to Owen for being nice about my name and proving diaryesque postings can be a good thing if your life sounds like the plot from a pornographic film, Cynthia for being nice about my cow game and the delicious Miss Honey for being the delightful Miss Honey. Cheerio now. xx Joss _____________________________________________ Scientific Laboratories Records http://www.thumped.com/scilabs http://www.esatclear.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martinrissbrook at xxx.com Fri Feb 11 19:34:19 2000 From: martinrissbrook at xxx.com (Martin Rissbrook) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:34:19 PST Subject: Sinister: Quick, only ten minutes til Corrie Message-ID: <20000211193419.43352.qmail@hotmail.com> Firstly, an apology to Honey for saying in the chatroom the other night that I thought his subject line story idea would lead to a load of disorganised pants. On the odd day or two that I could be arsed to put them together it seemed to be working just fine, which proves that I know bugger all about bugger all, and that you should never argue the toss with your parents, who are invariably older and wiser than you. Changing the subject, as another avid Queer as Fuck watcher, it should be pointed out that the last series was the best selling Channel 4 video EVAH! So there. Better even than "Ali G", or "15-1: too rude for TV" It's THAT good. And as Ailsa mentioned Celtic's humbling by the mighty Caledonian Thistle, I thought I'd share the best football headline EVAH! Super Cally Go Ballistic, Celtic are Atrocious! Even though it came from the evil scum sucking Sun, it's still dead good! And as for the obligatory Stu D leaving opinion: Couldn't care less, Looper are desperatley poor and the last album was just awful!! So there. AND he was a miserable sod in the old chatroom and some of us have very long memories!! Have a good weekend all! Risso ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dchard at xxx.ca Fri Feb 11 20:02:45 2000 From: dchard at xxx.ca (ipecac spice) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:02:45 -0400 (AST) Subject: Sinister: yeah i know i promised to go away, delete me if you wish Message-ID: hello all. i was going to lurk but it turns out that i'm not very good at it. i felt prompted to write by 2 messages really: alexander's and jarkko's. i don't know if i really have much to say in response to alexander's. i don't think i've ever been called an asshole before. i want to cast my vote for someone deserving, but i'm not sure who is most deserving. if anyone feels they're deserving feel free to write me with your woeful tale and let me know. otherwise i will randomly vote for some lucky person. i think that i need to stop worrying so much about what people think of me and try harder to make everyone else feel special. i think i'm a living self-fulfilling prophecy. i worry so much that people won't like me that i don't say anything and end up looking like a snob so than people don't like me and so on...i don't really agree about the importance of valentine's day. i find it is more of a day for single people to feel bad on than coupled people to feel special on. i ask everyone to join me in a boycott of valentine's and celebrate bitterness day. this is a day on which you get together with all your friends and eat and watch a movie. it is also fun to growl at all the couples on the streets. even couples themselves can participate, growl at other couples or stay in so as not to rub their relationships in the faces of lonely people. as for jarkko's letter that brought tears to my eyes. why can't people be better creatures. we think we are so wonderful b/c we can think yet look at what we do with that capacity. i am ashamed for all humanity. and then i feel badly b/c i am not doing anything to stop hate and ignorance. what can you do about things like that web-site? i don't think it's a case of ignoring tham and they will go away, but if people acknowledge them and publicly discuss it then they are getting free publicity. i feel as though i'm complicit (is that the right word?) no matter what. congrats to ailsa. happy birthday to fiona. -di "i respect those who have faith even though they are ignorant" -hemingway +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dee at xxx.ie Fri Feb 11 20:12:47 2000 From: dee at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 20:12:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: the jury has reached a decision. Message-ID: hello list, hows things ? I've come to a decision regarding who is going to get my crush vote. It was kind of hard because I had my heart set on a particular person's email because it was great but when I went through the archives (I put alot of work into my vote - it has to be deserved) I couldn't find it - but it was great. But someone elses content is similar in style and abundance, i hope he gets it in time for valentine's day. And if i was a boy or a lesbian I would vote for jenowl's because her posts are the best. _____________________________________________________________________________ Denise Power. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Fri Feb 11 21:35:27 2000 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:35:27 -0500 Subject: Sinister: white city, it's a joke of a name Message-ID: <001001bf74d7$e9bc84e0$31511198@wfu.edu> yea, er, well, um. i'm prepared to go the self indulgent way once again, but first, some B&S content, if you will (and you will, darn ya). there's been the news of big STU leaving. well, ok, i'm not ok with that, but i'm ok with that. stuff like this happens. it's no keith moon departure but it will still sting struan and isobel and stevie and mick and sarah and richard and chris. i think that's all of them. lets just hope kenney jones doesn't become the next member of our darling troupe. i can't imagine a B&S album with so much unneeded hi hat. sister disco, back me up on this. hi hat + WHO = face dances/it's hard = so so stuff. i like face dances and it's hard, i do, i can't avoid liking them, but they're no QUADROPHENIA. enough about the who. no i can't. in my short story class yesterday my teacher was reading her story and in it were the words 'meaty big and bouncy'. granted, the smut factor of my post just sky rocketed, but for good reason. i raised my hand and in front of the whole class we started talking about mods, rockers, and windmills. that is, until....... someone read a story and it had the word 'dame' referring to a girl in it. you see the point of the exercise was to write, if you were a girl, as a guy. so this girl was trying to write as a guy, and how he'd react to some beautiful brod. and she wrote 'dame'. now afterwards i raised my hand and exclaimed that i'd never heard such a word, except in the movies. when asked for a worthy substitute, i said 'bird'. i was crucified. it was horrific. i was lambasted with scorn and dirty looks. even though i realized that it wasn't a big deal, it was ugh, so silly and regretful. lovely laura llew sent me a valentine! it really is quite lovely, and it has lots of candy in it. the little package she sent it in was covered (and i mean absolutely covered) with tape. it took me at least half an hour to get it all ready to play with. sheesh dahhhling. my throat hurts a bit. perhaps i need to kiss someone soon. yea that'll do it! SMUT FACTOR (out of 10) -- 8. meaty big, and yea, get saucy. SELF INDULGENCE FACTOR (out of 100) -- 74. normally it's around 95. REFERENCES THAT NOBODY WILL GET (out of 10) -- 7.5. there aren't too many WHO fans anymore. until. love blake xx http://members.tripod.com/nucleartrout aol thingee: galloshes icq number is er, um: 22810722 yea yea yea ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials." - Jarvis Cocker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Fri Feb 11 22:10:44 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:10:44 EST Subject: Sinister: dividing canaan piece by piece get out of my garden waiting on sunday to drown Message-ID: well i must say these past posts from thursday/friday were great. passion in its full extent for causes. :o) i was also quite sadened to see that my vote for crush has been revoked. i reckon it's a good thing i found me a feller last night haha. well ex feller but we've rekindled the flame so to speak. just in the nick of time too. yeah i spent the night at his house but no we did nothing but make out like regular school boys and girls. although we are abouve school age and our bodies aren't boy and girl bodies. *drrr drr i feel like i'm stu ck in third gear trying to take off from a dead stop* yes so my friend and her beau also stayed at his house last night and they thinking we were going to do the old heave ho trip around the daisy's bought us condoms and slid them under his door to his room. quite thoughtful eh? thats my best friend tho. she's glorious and wonderful like that. she always thinks of others before herself. i seriously don't deserve a best friend like her. being such a rude bitch that i am. so's today i help him 'bleed' the breaks on this hearse he's selling to a mutual friend thom. i pumped the break pedal for an hour today. my knees are killing me. D; oh well. i'll get over it. uh. yes. ok um. stuart ds' untimely departure. or perhaps timely? who knows. it rather pisses me off, to have a band. to be in a band it requires trust in the other members. to be there especially after putting out records and being on a label and what not. i think it's rather rude of him. i've decided to respond to a few posts with quotes from songs. being so moved by music as i am i feel it only appropriate to plagerise. and use their wonderful ideas instead of my own 'cuz i'm smoove like dat' David Moore said: > My first B&S dream! and i sez. "so strange. victory- 1200 spires. the only sound moscow burning. empty like the tuileries. like a dream vienna seems. only not to be of use-impossible." tori amos. 'josephine' jarkko says: Sometimes the freedom of speech is not such a good thing. and di said too as for jarkko's letter that brought tears to my eyes. why can't people be better creatures. we think we are so wonderful b/c we can think yet look at what we do with that capacity. i am ashamed for all humanity. and then i feel badly b/c i am not doing anything to stop hate and ignorance. what can you do about things like that web-site? i don't think it's a case of ignoring tham and they will go away, but if people acknowledge them and publicly discuss it then they are getting free publicity. i feel as though i'm complicit (is that the right word?) no matter what. to which i think of: the sun is setting on the century. and we are armed to the teeth we're all working together now to make our lives mercifully brief schoolkids keep trying to teach us what guns are all about confuse liberty with weaponry and watch your kids act it out every year now like christmas some boy gets the milkfed suburban blues reaches for the available arsenal and saunters off to make the news and the women in the middle are learning what poor women have always known that the edge is closer than you think when you men bring the guns home look at where the profits are thats how you'll find the source of the big lie that you and i both know so well in the time it takes this cultural deathwish to run it's course they're gonna make a pretty penny and then they're all going to helll he said the chickens all come home to roost yeah malcom forcasted this flood are we really gonna sleep though another century while the rich profit off our blood? true it may take some doing to see the undoing though but in my humble opinon here's what i suggest we do open fire on holly wood open fire on MTV open fire on NBC and CBS and ABC open fire on the NRA and all the lies they told us along the way open fire on each weapons manufacturer while he's giving head to some repulican senator and if i hear one more time about a fools right to his tools of rage i'm gonna take all my friends and i'm gonna move to canada and we're gonna die of old age ani difranco. 'to the teeth' right well there was more but those are the ones that matter to me. he he . or perhaps not matter but i feel compelled to say something about. well i must run it's my aunts birthday so i must spend money that i don't actually have. he he the story of my life. i'm sorry for such a boring post. but well i'm not that exciting of a person. or something like that. right well ciao and take care and have a loverly weekend. ciao, iris bayou. i'm sure that you've been briefed my absorption lines. they are frayed and so i fear. my fear is greater than my stength but i walk the missionary way. _tori_amos_suede_ www.anglefire.com/journal/standhere/index.html step on a crack break your mothers back. go to my sight. her back will still be broken. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.borgia at xxx.ca Fri Feb 11 22:36:38 2000 From: alexander.borgia at xxx.ca (Alexander Borgia) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:36:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: part 2 Message-ID: <38A48EF6.B701AE32@sympatico.ca> Did I forget to mention there was a part 2 to my post of last evening? I guess that was intentional. Yesterday there was yet another high school shooting. This time it was in Toronto. Some of the people on the list are from Toronto, I myself live close to it. Luckily nobody was killed this time, but for sure there have been far too many of these in the last year. Although a motive was not given, in the other shootings the reason they took place were because the shooters had felt that the victims had treated them poorly, or they had been made feel that they didn't matter. Although this does not excuse the behaviour of the people who have done the shooting in these cases, I do think we should stand back and take a look at the world. The purpose of my post last night was to make you react. For some of you it did work. Albeit it was the sledge hammer approach, sometimes that is necessary. Everybody is guilty of thoughtless behaviour at some time or another, and I do include myself in that. Last night it appeared as though I was calling you all selfish assholes, and that is exactly how we are preceived at times by other people and we don't even realize it, unfortunately our behaviour can sometimes result in getting ourselves killed without ever really knowing why. Road rage, suicides, shootings, and all kinds of other things happen and they always will, but it seems as though they are happening with increasing frequency which is so sad. Too many times people are quoted on the news as saying that they never imagined such a thing happening in their town, but reality is that anything can happen anywhere at anytime. Personally I have known 3 suicides, two murder victims, and a few people who have died in alcohol related car accidents. I am sure that everybody has had their lives touched by this type of thing so I am not talking about some vague concept. For those who haven't, pray that you never do. I am completely aware that I have pissed some people off. Others have said that the world needs more compassion. Both responses are entirely acceptable because they have you thinking about the subject but I hope there isn't too much indifference. Sinister is a really good place with really good people, and I love you all, I really hope some day that we stop killing each other over this type of thing. Just as Rachel is sometimes overwhelmed with the urge to flee, I get overwhelmed with my own urges and I really don't want to see anyone sad this Valentine because you all matter. Okay, if you are still reading, then back to borking stuff. I am sorry to hear that StuD is leaving, but he will still be involved in the studio so he isn't completely gone and the door isn't completely closed so he just might not wander too far. My friend Lily who is a wonderful pianist is playing in Toronto this weekend. she was Bridget Fonda's piano coach in some movie and saw her and her boyfrined, some other actor, sneak away for sex on the set a few times. She plays blues, so if you are into it, here's the details.... This Saturday Feb 12: SISTER ACT - TORONTO APPEARANCE Featuring (alphabetically) Carrie Chesnutt - sax and vocals, Michelle Josef - drums, Sara Latendresse - vocals, Lily Sazz - keyboards, Doreen Smith vocals, Marg Stowe - guitar, Leo Valvasori - bass (replacing Suzie Vinnick who won't be able to make it.) MOCKINGBIRD CLUB, 580 King St. W (just east of Bathurst), Toronto 416-504-3081 Feb 12, 2000, doors open at 9pm $10 cover Comfy couches and candlelit atmosphere. Very nice venue. This lineup consists of many of the participants from past Toronto Blues Society Women's Blues Revues, coming together for one night as Sister Act. (no nun intended). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Still here? May as well offer a recipe for the sini-cookbook. This is the Shrimp Fettucine that people seem to like...... It is really easy to make and everyone seems to like it. The recipe is for 2 people and I will give everything based on how I make it. First you will need to start cooking the fettucine. Use a spaghetti measuring thing to figure out for 3 people, or just take a big handful and throw it in the pot of boiling water. Pour some olive oil in the pot first I put enough so that the slick on the water is about 2 inches in diameter, then stir it around in the water before putting the fettucine in. (I use the fettucine to stir it, one less spoon to wash!) When your fettucine is cooked, pour some olive oil in a pan and add two cloves of chopped garlic. Then throw 3/4 - 1 pound of shrimp (depends on how hungry you are, or how much you like shrimp) into the pan and sautée them. While the shrimp are cooking, put your futticine in a large bowl and add a bit of olive oil, some oregano, and a bit of basil. mix that around so that the fettucine is evenly covered in the green stuff. I would say that I use about a teaspoon and a half of oreganon and half a teaspoon of basil, but I go by eye so it will be hit and miss for you. Just as the shrimp are almost done, (this is optional) you can throw a large cubed tomatoe in with them. Just keep the tomatoes in the pan long enough to get them warmed up. Squirt the juice from half a medium lemon over it now. (if you forget to buy a lemon, don't worry because half the time I do too) Put a big mess of your flaky green fettucine on a plate, then dump a big mess of shrimp and tomatoe over top of it. Then sprinkle crumbled up feta cheese over everything. And voila, you have a really nice dinner that everyone seems to like. Serve it with a fresh baguette and a nice white wine. I like Remy Panier Blanc de France because it is inexpensive and it is very light. For those who don't like shrimp, or if payday is a long way off, you can make this with chicken just as easily. Have a happy weekend. Alexander +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trollopinpaisley at xxx.com Sat Feb 12 01:35:34 2000 From: trollopinpaisley at xxx.com (Georgine Skeene) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:35:34 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Fucking Amal(mentally insert little dots over a's) Message-ID: hello my sinister doves, well let's see. About the tragedy of stuart david, i mean un-tragedy. I think there might be a lot more ruckus about it if there had been some kind of big fight. It sounds like the arrangement worked out well for everyone. stuart d. has a lot of irons in the fire, he seems happy with his own work, and it's important for everyone to get their priorities in line. It makes sense to me, anyway. megalomania will always take precedence over being a bit player. we all wanna be in control of our creations.... Westboro baptist freaks on the sinister list? i thought i'd never see the day. yes they are a bunch of inbred, ignorant freaks. Real christian people can tell you their beliefs have nothing whatsoever to do with the bible. and if you want to read a scary story about psychosis, chld abuse and hatred, this is the link of the day: http://www.qrd.org/usa/kansas/phelps/1994/addicted.to.hate-06.02.94 I don't know if it's 100% true. it was metnioned in the phoenix gay/lesbian magazine Echo in an article about a lawsuit or something. but if it is true, then we can be sure the Un-Reverend Phelps is a psychotic bastard. Even if it's not, it makes a good, sick story. I think sarah is secretly in love with me. she wants to be a lesbian too! always picking apart my emails, responding point by point, jabbing like a 5th grade boy who's too shy to admit he has a crush on that girl he's always blowing spitballs at. yeah, your game is up! and toilet duck does, indeed, rule forever. i would like to say that last night i had the distinct privilege of attending the phx gay/lesbian film festival, and viewing a swedish film called "Show Me LOve" or, for those not living in the puritanical united states, "Fucking Amal". i laughed, i cried. i'm cynical about lots of things, but when it comes to teenage girls in love, my disbelief can be suspended on anything available. i was reduced to nothingness by the end of it all. I was afraid the subtitles would detract from it, but they didn't at all. the most annoying thing was the rest of the audience, who seemed so amused by the "weird" swedish language that they kept laughing at totally unfunny moments and confusing me. it was kind of immature, i thought. but it's a really really good movie, as long as you're not a grumpy homophobe or something. It seemed (too) real to me, probably because i'm still a teenager at heart, having barely seen a first kiss at 23. (some call it pathetic). so i guess if you're cyni! cal you could call it cheesy, but if you like that sort of thing it's kind of like a magnetic fields song: sure ABBA did it a million times, but a good pop song, like a good love story, when it's done right it has to be perfect, cliches and all. I also wondered idly if Amal is a real town. anyone live in Sweden? not that it matters, i was just curious. "this is my new girlfriend. Now please get out of the way, we're going to go fuck now." ah, callow youth. love and poison too, LJ http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange to the pure, all things are pure--- http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange/buxoms.html ***The Buxoms: Svengali-free since 1998!!*** ______________________________________________________ Sent by FortuneCity Mail at http://www.fortunecity.com Join now and receive 20Mb of free web space and E-mail +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Sat Feb 12 11:43:55 2000 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 11:43:55 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: The Sinister Track List.... Message-ID: <20000212114355.18155.qmail@web3005.mail.yahoo.com> Hi there sinister-land... I'm so so sad... I got very sick yesterday and I had to stay in bed so I didn't manage to DJ after all... A Big Thank you to all of you that have requested songs and attributed to my DJ track list... I've written your requests down and I'll definatelly play them all when I'll be DJing next week... So... those of you who want to request a song, please do, since we have now loads of time... First of all... I loved Alexander's letter... it was so agressively moving... and... I'd like to thank the people who have given me my 3 votes and tell them I love them so much but I want to ask them to vote for someone else now - someone who have no votes at all - since those 3 votes made me happy and kept me warm inside quite too long now... I think it'd be rather selfish to keep them for myself... So, my crush sweethearts, please remove your votes from me... and make someone else feel special and loved like you made me feel... ~~~~~~~~~~~~ these are the songs requested so far... I'm going to make a tape with all these tracks... so, all the people who requested will take a copy... since this is going to be darn expensive, I thought that I should make three copies and send them to the first 3 people... they then have to copy it and send it to the next one etc, etc... but, I can make copies for people who haven't participated but want to have a copy of that tape... still, I'm waiting for more responses... so, the tape's track list is not yet decided... ~THE TRACK LIST SO FAR~ 1. B&S: I Don't Love Anyone 2. Love: A House Is Not A Motel 3. Pixies: Debaser 4. Field Mice: Let's Kiss and Make Up 5. B&S: You're Just A Baby 6. Beck: Sex Laws 7. One Night Suzan: Is It True? 8. Cure: Boys Don't Cry 9. B&S: Judy and the Dream of Horses 10. Gentle Waves: Evensong 11. Television Personalities: The Dream Inspires 12. Moz: The Difference It Makes 13. The Wedding Present: Big Boots 14. Cinerama: Ears 15. Nick Drake: Hazey Jane II 16. The Pastels: Heaven Above! 17. B&S: I Could Be Dreaming 18. Magnetic Fields: Smoke and Mirrors 19. Radiohead: Creep 20. The Field Mice: Fabulous Friend 21. The Sea Urchins: Pristine Christine 22. B&S: Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying 23. The Wedding Present: A Million Miles 24. Talulah Gosh: Be Your Baby 25. Television Personalities: Sorry To Embarass You 26. Heavenly: I Fell In Love Last Night 27. Cinerama: You Turn Me On 28. Baxendale: Music For Girls ...and remember, you can ask for more than one song since I might not have your first request... ~~~~~~ That's it people... sorry for the list abuse... Please, do write personally, either to request a song or in case you would like to have a copy of the tape... I have to go... Love+umbrellas V.F. XXX O ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lixibell at xxx.com Sat Feb 12 13:55:57 2000 From: lixibell at xxx.com (alix campbell) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:55:57 GMT Subject: Sinister: growing potatoes by the score Message-ID: <20000212135557.94294.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello you swineherds I^�m only allowed on the net at weekends, but I am allowed to compile posts during the week, which can only mean I will write things which have already been said and weren^�t funny to start with. It also gives you, the reader, a glimpse into my sad and idle life. My plans today consist of going to Sainsbury^�s to buy tinned tomatoes and to post some letters. Which is a lot more than I did yesterday, believe me. Are posts really like chocolate bars, Honey? Can I eat them instead of going the entire 2 minutes walk to the shop? Which posts are equivalent to chunky KitKats (the baroness of fattening snacks)? My spell check says I should write ^�chitchats^� not ^�kitkats^�. Chunky chitchats. Greig said, quite a long time ago now: ^�From what I can gather, the album's been finnished^� Is this like being polished? Am I being annoying? If you^�re on a coach from Oxford to London ever, look out for a sign reading ^�Polish War Memorial^� I think most people however, didn^�t immediately think of Pledge when they read it. The other day I was amazed to see B&S members on Real Rooms with Simon Biagi (BBC 1, weekdays, 11am). Stevie Jackson was having his living room done up. He was very impressed with the finished room; a multi-textural distressed paint effect using Sapphic lavender and classic beige accentuated with tastefully modern day-glo pink. The skirting board, architrave and panelling were beautifully decorated using a specially designed Petula Clark shaped stencil and gold leaf. The Care Bears accessories really helped too, especially the lampshade and waste bin. The team was assisted by Stevie^�s friend Stuart ^�always ready to lend a hand, especially where MDF is concerned^� Murdoch, and Stevie^�s mum, Wobbly Mabel, who makes a great cuppa, apparently! Starry said: >Speaking of lesbians (and their >associated housemates), Lixi is back! Yippee! It could ONLY get any better >if >this pretty foul "milkshake" (my arse) turned into a superb W-Bar of >Harringay milkshake. Miss Sarah appears to be insinuating that I am one of those filthy deviant lesbo whores*. Or perhaps my grip of English language has slipped a bit more. On a different note, I propose that the next sinister meet-up is held in the W-Bar, here on Green Lanes, cos it^�s ace. Like really really ace. Better than never having to watch Big Break ever again, even! Anyway, here I sit, a few days after writing the above, dipping teletubbie custard creams into a mug of nice black Darjeeling, thus being seemingly sophisticated and Not Really Poor. I^�ve just been to a Sainsbury^�s interview, which went very well, but I think I^�ve passed too many GCSEs to work on the fish counter. Shame. I got back to find a summons for non-payment of council tax. If anyone wants to firebomb Haringey council as punishment for their sheer incompetence, please please do. Starry rang me up too, and has forced me to go to Greenwich market. That^�s another day sitting around, watching TV, down the drain. Rachel Tucker, don^�t you live in Oxford? If so, why don^�t you ride trains to some of Oxfordshire^�s beautiful little rural hamlets? Many of them do now have train stations, and some even have television. Mind you, it^�s only BBC, none of these new channels like ITV. Big congratulations to Ailsa. Bit grown up, all this. Valentine^�s Day. I will be doing my best to sleep through the whole sorry event. The NME, via Miss Honey said: >BELLE AND SEBASTIAN LOSE BASSIST I like that. Like when you can^�t find your shoes in the morning. I reckon Sarah M and Richard C are trotting around Glasgow, muttering ^�we left him here, under the stairs, has ANYONE seen our bloody bassist? This is absurd, we^�re going to be so late, where is he?^� Sorry. That wasn^�t actually funny, was it? If you^�ve got bored by this lengthy thingy, look at it this way ^� would you rather I wrote a post full of nincompoopery every day, or would you rather be able to delete it in one go? Bollocks, I have to leave, otherwise the one we know as Fluffy Sarah will get unfluffy waiting for me to Get Out Of The House And Onto The Bus. Love Lixi *If you have a problem with this sentence, write me privately, and also if you are Willow from Buffy, please write too. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MBP99KLC at xxx.uk Sat Feb 12 16:27:36 2000 From: MBP99KLC at xxx.uk (Katy) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:27:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: She's got the radio-active! Message-ID: Hi everyone, You know when you have an opinion about something and you're sure you're right, even though no-one in the world agrees with you? Well most of the music I like is reasonably cool (not that I like stuff just cos it's "cool" and not that I claim any credit for that cos it was my ex-boyfriend who got me to like anything except Green Day, not that there's anything wrong with that cos stuff like "Kerplunk" was class) but today I was listening to my old Sleeper tapes and, even though there were plenty of mediocre Sleeper songs, some of them are really pretty. I'm not sure I'm going to convince anyone with this argument - even the word "Sleeper" just makes you think of "Cast" and "Shed Seven". But "Smart" was a brilliant record and even recent songs like "Miss You" are very good. I just feel sorry for Louise Wener cos I do think she had a lot of talent and she's mostly remembered as being shit. Maybe I should write and tell her (Alexander?). Also Jen said about some ridiculous thing they had to do in RE, describing each other. This too makes me mad. Why do they make people do stuff like that at school? What do they think is going to happen? Don't worry, you're well cool ("and you know, you're a star, you'll go far.."). And it's all over with the boy I quite-liked-but-maybe-not-enough, leaving me free to daydream again! I have decided the way to go is being really good friends with someone, Holden and Jane style, and if anything happens it's cos it's right. Only an idea though so we'll see... katy x "You sold your old punk records, read the book instead You lost your sense of humour but you kept 'The Queen Is Dead'" - Sleeper +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian at xxx.uk Sat Feb 12 17:24:56 2000 From: ian at xxx.uk (ian) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:24:56 -0000 Subject: Sinister: maybe the y2k's gonna bring the rain.... Message-ID: <000001bf757e$35c698c0$2948883e@default> the clouds hang over the sinister sands. the beach is quiet. it is dusk, and any tourists hardy enough to brave the winds have long retired to their petrol-pumping shelters and hurried off to a different world. the breeze has dropped now, although a thin film of rain hangs in the air, stinging our faces as the waves lap over our trainers. not a good day to be wearing corduroy. before us, a trail of footprints. they lead out of the water and up towards the dunes, where they recede into the darkness that is starting to thicken around us. you take my hand and we follow them. why not? following the trail is easy, and its comforting to know we're not alone. for a while, neither of us speaks. your shoes make a squelching sound as the water seeps out of them, back into the sand. the noise of the seagulls has ceased. they are watching us silently, pondering the strange habits of humans. perhaps they are waiting for us to die, so they can swoop down and peck at our eyes... but dying is for tomorrow. today, you and me are alive, and as the palm of my hand gently caresses yours you begin to hum, almost imperceptibly. it takes a couple of seconds, but i recognise the tune, and i start to sing along, hesitantly at first but growing more sure of myself. "she's very quiet, and very small infact she's hardly there at all that's what she is and what she is and what she iiis....... a rotting rowboat lies abandoned on the sand. the wood cracks under our feet as we climb over the edge and sit ourselves where the seat used to be. the last of the sunlight is fading, it touches the clouds with the softest pink smile and we don't feel sad any more. looper...you take the moments of your life and you share them with me. and, in this way, i start to feel like i have lived them too. like the time we danced madly in the water while "the balad of ray suzuki" played from your cheap transistor, --- a bunch of loopers...damn right. i'm glad stuart david left the group, if it was a choice between that or there not being another looper album. i have no idea how it will affect the group dynamics, but it has been apparent for some time that the guy is branching out. perhaps b&s wasn't quite big enough to hold him any more. i love my twattybus album as much as any of the b&s recordings, but it seemed not to fit together as well as the others. the song that seems most out of place is "space boy dream". a lovely story, it always brings a smile to my face, and the way it flows into "dirty dream number 2" is fantastic, but i don't feel it fits with the general mood. even the glam sounds and muffled vocals of "electronic rennaissance", rather at odds with the rest of tigermilk, seem....right..... somehow. space boy dream seems like it should have been on an e.p. somewhere. or on a different album. perhaps it just doesn't sound like a b&s song. okay, maybe a group should aim for diversity. but i don't think the stu d style and the stu m style was fitting together quite as well as it might have done. if, as he says, he has left the group amicably, i'm glad. at least this way he'll still be recording with them from time to time. i'd hate this band to have one of those unpleasant-split scenarios. it seems beneath them. stu d seems to have been waiting for a change. the whole theme of "who's afraid of y2k" was "maybe everything will be allright soon. maybe....perhaps.. the world will change and none of us will really have to try to make it happen". and when it didn't? maybe he looked to himself for that change. the looper album isn't the cleverest musical work i've ever heard. the lyrics aren't knowing, sarcastic or particularly witty. the spoken word format can seem a little cloying at times. despite all this, i love it. perhaps because of all this. it came from someone's heart, a few moments were snatched as they passed and someone was good enough to share them with me. i'm grateful for that. i hope this doesn't change b&s too much. i'd like them to stay subtle as the wind is grey. perhaps they'll grow through it. guess we'll have to wait and see. the sun has set. i pull my coat a little closer around myself. the wind has returned, and it drives the rain into my flesh, biting my skin. i touch the spot where you sat, and imagine i can still feel your warmth on the wood. my fingers are numb and my head is starting to ache. i can't help wondering where you went. ian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Sat Feb 12 19:25:16 2000 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:25:16 EST Subject: Sinister: Bon Voyage Charlie Brown... Message-ID: <29.138c495.25d70d9c@aol.com> As the subject line implies, today the final Peanuts comic ever will run in the Sunday papers. Personally, I think the strip's heyday was a very years back, but its still a total bummer to know that no more new comics will ever be produced. The papers will continue to run "Classic Peanuts" until Charles Schultz's death, whereupon the entire strip will be discontinued. There was an hour-long special on the telly last night recounting Peanuts' finest moments, including some really hilarious footage from the rarer episodes, like the brilliant Thanksgiving episode that no one seems to have seen. Well, I'll stop be before I start blubbering... Steve C. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Which Paul?" "BLAH!" visit http://callowkids.tripod.com or your crush will hate you forever +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk Sat Feb 12 22:30:16 2000 From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (sweetie) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 22:30:16 -0000 Subject: Sinister: *'cor blimey!' she thought out loud and looked down in disbelief at the joint in her hand Message-ID: <000201bf75ac$09329d80$4438883e@anne666theasylum> sinister this is a 3 part email but firstly forgive my ignorence but i would never have thought (till i sawded it in select) that 'track and field' was a nightclub! part 1 ========== another crappy day i arranged to meet this guy i met on icq today in glasgow *again* he didnt turn up *again* i was left to wonder around glasgow _alone_ *again* brimming with self pity i treated myself to prawn sarnies in andronicas, mmmmm i was even going to buy myself a wee box of choccies from the wee choccy shop at the entrance of andronicas, but i decided that was taking the whole self pity thing too far. shortly aferwards i headed home got to falkirk went to the bus stop and i waited and waited and still there was no sign of any denny bus :| but i got a lift home so that was ok. and then tonite i was going to drink my sorrows away but the only alcohol in the house was this wine- that i didnt like. :| *_i wanna be a hippy and i wanna get stoned on..._* oh woe is me.... and someone sure as hell doesnt want me to forget it!! ========== part 2 ========== paul (walkn10 at aol.com) talked about peanuts i remember watching that when i was a wee ickle small person i dont remember it that well tho. but i am still sad that it is to be discontinued. i hate when they do that :( ========== part 3 ========== seen as i dont think anyone will actually read this far check out this http://www.thespark.com and seen as its evenm less likely they got these fwe lines further i found out i am going to doe oct 3rd 2047 aged 64 how likely i am to die of what 46% cancer, 10% alcoholism, 7% 3rd degree burns, 6%alien abduction, 5% homicide i am a 36%bitch, 73% un-intelligent, and 69% pure ========== fade this one to black sweetie xox ========== ps ========== i am working on a webby site and just to be original (...) im gonna have poetry and stuff on it if anyone out there does poetry and/or stuff pease send me! ========== +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk Sat Feb 12 22:56:47 2000 From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (sweetie) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 22:56:47 -0000 Subject: Sinister: *'cor blimey!' she thought out loud and looked down in disbelief at the joint in her hand Message-ID: <002201bf75ac$71892020$4438883e@anne666theasylum> sinister this is a 3 part email but firstly forgive my ignorence but i would never have thought (till i sawded it in select) that 'track and field' was a nightclub! part 1 ========== another crappy day i arranged to meet this guy i met on icq today in glasgow *again* he didnt turn up *again* i was left to wonder around glasgow _alone_ *again* brimming with self pity i treated myself to prawn sarnies in andronicas, mmmmm i was even going to buy myself a wee box of choccies from the wee choccy shop at the entrance of andronicas, but i decided that was taking the whole self pity thing too far. shortly aferwards i headed home got to falkirk went to the bus stop and i waited and waited and still there was no sign of any denny bus :| but i got a lift home so that was ok. and then tonite i was going to drink my sorrows away but the only alcohol in the house was this wine- that i didnt like. :| *_i wanna be a hippy and i wanna get stoned on..._* oh woe is me.... and someone sure as hell doesnt want me to forget it!! ========== part 2 ========== paul (walkn10 at aol.com) talked about peanuts i remember watching that when i was a wee ickle small person i dont remember it that well tho. but i am still sad that it is to be discontinued. i hate when they do that :( ========== part 3 ========== seen as i dont think anyone will actually read this far check out this http://www.thespark.com and seen as its evenm less likely they got these fwe lines further i found out i am going to doe oct 3rd 2047 aged 64 how likely i am to die of what 46% cancer, 10% alcoholism, 7% 3rd degree burns, 6%alien abduction, 5% homicide i am a 36%bitch, 73% un-intelligent, and 69% pure ========== fade this one to black sweetie xox ========== ps ========== i am working on a webby site and just to be original (...) im gonna have poetry and stuff on it if anyone out there does poetry and/or stuff pease send me! ========== +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Feb 13 00:30:00 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:30:00 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Happy Sinister Mothering Sunday Message-ID: <200002121930_MC2-98E1-3ED4@compuserve.com> Hi All, Don't worry, not quite so Disgusted of Royal Tunbridge Wells today. I just thought that the passing of one of the original 4 boys in their corduroys deserved to be marked with a little more comment, no matter how long ago predicted nor how logical. Besides, I always liked the idea the idea of a band with a recurrent lyrical theme about the misunderstood & the misfits in society having a member who was a little bit different & apart. Knocking up beans on toast with Wee Karn in their Camber Sands chalet, rather than having the Meals On Wheels delivered on Mini-Me's motorbike. Anyway, today the sun is shining, the cat is purring, the snowdrops are out in the garden, the fluffy bunnies are frolicking on the lawn again & I've had a nice big poo. As today is Sinister's Mothering Sunday please make sure you all go to church like good children to receive a nice bunch of violets to take home to your Mummy, & when you present her with her posy don't forget to give her a hug & tell her how much you love her, & say sorry for all the bad things you've done to her over the last year. Love & kisses, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 50158120 at xxx.hk Sun Feb 13 09:25:31 2000 From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:25:31 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Ooh! Dear! Tomorrow is ..... Message-ID: <950433931.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk> Girls and Boys: Ooh!!!! Dear, Tomorrow is the...is the... is the "Day" that dare not speak its name Now, I'm alone. I'm a lonely soul. B n S should write a song about me. I ven't heard the album of Looper, only a song or two i guess. But, I do think Gentle Wave is better.... Today is the 3rd day i kept the IanBrown-like hairdo in my head. funny. I am still writing the script for my final year project, a 20 mins short fiction film. I am too sleepy, I O.D. last night. But what I take is not E, I take "White Heat/White Light" by Velvet Undergrounds. It is amazing. I discover the power of the noise at the end at a Suede gig. They use the record to make some sound before they play. I found that if u play it to the maximum volume.. it goes crazzzzzzy.... It is not hard to trace the hint of VU at Belle and Sebastian songs, by the way. peace, Toby in the snow. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From apytmw at xxx.uk Sun Feb 13 13:06:46 2000 From: apytmw at xxx.uk (Moobury) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 13:06:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister: re Jarkko's letter: who doesn't feel sick? Message-ID: This lpost may seem rather old now, but I've only just got around to reading the Sinister messages from the 10th onwards.... I'm quite shaken up by Jarkko's letter regarding WBC. I meant, I know that highly predudices regigious sects exist all over the world, but to publish what amounts to a modern day Klu Klux Clan site in a public domain makes you really think hard about how much you value free speach. I find the hole history of free speach quite remarkable; in the past, it has always been the fight of talented writers with insight and courage battling against predudiced religious authorities to get their works published and their ideas known, from Galilleo to Henry Miller. But now that an acceptable amount of free speach is the norm for most people in most western countries (although far to many people are denied even this basic right), it seems to be abused by a minority of individuals and organisations, most of whom are religious. The whole national identity/national front thing in England, encouraged by Enoch Powell, was (and still is) a way of hiding gross racism behind a mask of religion. I'm really sorry about this, but I feel utterly sick, and as much as I love yr twee posts almost as much as much as I love ice cream, today will be dominated by the kind of self loathing that always settles in when I realise that I'm far too privledged in life. I have very little understanding of what makes a person straight or gay. I think its something to do with the way the brain develops in early pregnancy. In the first month or so of a human foetus, a single layer of cells develops and divides. Trought differentiation and migration, the brain develops. At this stage, many personality traites are formed, such as the predominate handedness, things like dyslexia, and yr inclinations over guys or girls. The things affecting this development include the balence of chemicals such as eostrogen in the mother at the time, amoungst other thngs. As far as I can make out, this process is just as 'natural' for straight or gay people. If someone wants to insist that God gives life, then they also have to admit that God makes people Gay, contrary to one of his commands... mind you, he also creates people who, due to real lack of sensitivity to certain emotional stimuli, we term psychopaths... he creates people with a tendency to kill, then judges them with hellfire or whatever? Seems bullshit to me, even assuming God exists. Sorry to go on, once again... but I'm curious, can any of this bullshit reasonably be reasoned? I don't know much about biology or neurology - I'm a philosophy student - but I do have an interest inb whether ideas which seem ridiculous can be argued for. I can't imagine any possible way in which such blatent biggotry could be defended, and I'd really love to meat someone who thinks otherwise... preferably down a dark alleyway, armed with a baseball bat and a healthy set of emotions.... Has anyone read to here? hahaha, thought not. Love to you all, Mark xxxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BrnToEnd at xxx.com Sun Feb 13 16:26:55 2000 From: BrnToEnd at xxx.com (BrnToEnd at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:26:55 EST Subject: Sinister: Up too early(Damon's everlasting ramble) Message-ID: Why hello there, Ok its sunday and I got up at 6 A.M.for no reason of course. So I woke up and have just been putting on records and watching the cars go by on the highway. I'm shaking cold and feel like such a dork doing this but I can't go back to bed. I have an urge to eat an Eggmcmuffin now or something like that. If I wasn't feeling so weird I'd probably start a book and hope to finish in that day. Yesterday I re-read Angels In America part 1. Such an amazing play. Surely the best of the 90s but My favorite play of all time is still A Long Day's Journey Into Night by Eugene O'Neill and my favorite playwright? Tennessee Williams. I want to play Brick or Stanley on the stage sometime. You see I'm into theater and its well besides music and reading my main hobby. Ok check this I am in two plays(I think I told you guys already but its early and I'm being weird so I'll go on anyways) The Dinning Room by A.R. Gurney and The Seagull by Chekhov . In The Seagull I am Treplev and well my crush in the drama class is well my mom in the play. Perhaps I'll play this Oedipus complex roll and get rave reviews when I didn't intend too. Anyways love sucks. Ok then I have to direct a One act play for my senior project which will probably be a Samuel Beckett play(Krapp's last tape Is what I dream to do). Then I have to do a monologue infront of a camera(eek) to get in an acting school during the summer. I think I'll do the ending monologue for Roy Cohn in Angels of America part 2. I dont have Angels in America 2 with me at this house, just part 1. So that means I have to go downtown(On The bus eeek eeek) to the libarely and make a bad photo copy then get dirty looks from the scary republican Liberians who indeed voted for Reagan. I love a good rainy gray cloudy day. Actually makes me happy. I know I'm morbid but I can't help noticing. I hate hot summer days but I love rainy December days(But not school!). I think I'll listen to a byrds album now. Last summer I use to stay up until the first light of the day and I'd listen to If You're feeling sinister or The byrds. It was beautiful and I can't wait to do it again this summer. This summer is going to be crazy. Why? I don't know. Im out of High School for one(Yay I guess) I'll be happy to miss my Nazi Chemistry teacher and homework and scary Honor English students(No offense to Honor Students) but I'll be scared entering the adult world. I was too late to miss the college enrollment but I may do a program in Seattle where I can teach and go to college at the same time. Sounds good. My dreams are broken about going to UC Berkley it seems so I guess that's why I read Bret Easton Ellis now. I'm drinking pulp orange juice and hashbrowns now umm yum? It seems only yesterday I was a punk wannabe middle schooler. Time goes by too fast well its weird. Its like the present moment is slow but looking back it seems fast. In middle school I wore an Operation Ivy and Bad Religion shirt and had a Sex Pistols patch. Everyone always called me names and pushed me in the PE locker room. Once this one kid pissed me off though and I pushed him into a locker room and choked him and told him I'd kill him. The poor bugger was half my size too that's why I still feel bad. I guess I shouldn't complain for getting beat up in school because I was just as much a jerk but I was just a jerk because everyone was to me. Middle school was the worst time in my life. Pure hell. Still brings back tears just thinking of it. Jesus its 8 and I'm rambling about my middle school years. I use to sleep 'till like 11-12 everyday and my parents would have to drag me out of bed. Now I'm lucky if I sleep 'till 10. I'm always just a walking tired soul now. Ok If you've read until here I want to give you a big hug and kiss. Thanks for listening. I'll stop writing now and get a life. -Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachel at xxx.uk Sun Feb 13 18:11:16 2000 From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 18:11:16 -0000 Subject: Sinister: 1 goal in 496 minutes...the u's are staying up!! Message-ID: <005a01bf764d$b9ef72a0$df2e883e@preinstalledco> happy valentines everyone! yes i know i'm a day early but i won't get to my temperamental 'puter on the day itself cos i will be FAR too busy doing very overdue english coursework...look out for a bumper post from me then tomorrow... ;) and in keeping with the valentines spirit, here's somthing from velocity: >First of all... I loved Alexander's letter... it was so agressively moving... and... I'd like to thank the people who have given me my 3 votes and tell them I love them so much but I want to ask them to vote for someone else now - someone who have no votes at all - since those 3 votes made me happy and kept me warm inside quite too long now... I think it'd be rather selfish to keep them for myself... definitely, i am with velocity on this. except that when it comes down to it i *am* rather selfish and, to be honest, dying to know who the 4 people who've voted for me are...well, 3 out of the 4, i know who one is...so please vote for other people, they're probably more worthy of your crush anyway, but can you tell me who you are?? puh-lease!!! i have restrained myself from voting for everyone on sinister just to find out, but i have hired a highly qualified detective doing admirable guesswork, but i can no longer pay him now (he didn't accept mark owen posters as valid currency...nor did he take up my offer of my egg poaching expertise in exchange...i would let you into the secret of poached eggs a la alexander's recipe, but then i would have to kill you. all. and also i don't want to find out that everybody knows how to perfectly poach an egg without the aid of one of those poaching contraptions...it is my most highly prized skill, along with being able to open plastic bags first time...), so it is up to you to show yourselves... hey, someone's telepathic and already changed their vote...i can take it, i'm nearly a grown up...;) i did have other stuff to say, what was it? can't remember, i am hungover. little recollections of last night keep worming their way to the front of my brain...i can fully visualise the win(!) over wycombe and dancing out of the ground with 2000 oxford fans (yes, that IS how exciting a win is...), and also arriving in the pub and having an intellectual(!) discussion about £2 coins - did you know oasis have nicked their new album title from them? - £2 coins are the checkout operators version of list crush y'know...ooh phone oh dear oh dear oh dear. this is terrible, apparently i rowed with my best friend tom and let it slip that actually he annoys me more than anyone else in the entire world and then ignored him all the way home...i'm suprised he called me...i don't think he was too impressed with my grovelling and desperate apologising just now...shit shit shit he hates me...this is a crisis...i told you i wasn't crushworthy...fuck. now i feel awful and sicky and generally a horrible person...see normally i row with people and make up, this is not possible with tom. you row, friendship over. if thing's have got tense before i always back down, it's the only way to keep the long term peace... umm...i have vague rememberings of the jeepster (sorry honey) chatroom too...if anyone was in there at some godawful time last night/this morning and i was really abusive/irritating/drunk pain in the arse i am really sorry. though surely i must have sobered up at some point? i started this post in such a good mood and now...fuck. serves me right though. i am a bitch, a proper one, not a meredith brooks one still lovin' but leavin' you all, in a last ditch measure to patch up a friendship rachel xxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sun Feb 13 21:20:17 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 22:20:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 10 Roddington Place Message-ID: <01bf7668$1ff528a0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Thanks for all the moral guidance we've been having. I must remember to pass it on to any ten year olds I bump into. You don't need me to vote for you to know that I think you're special, especially if you've got a big "upstairs". Biggie props to Kevan for investigating the life of John Schroeder so thoroughly. It's a pity that Uriah Heep bloke didn't know the answer. Still, at least he called you "mate", shows he's still down to earth, like Barry Sheene. From the look on their faces, I wouldn't be surprised if those two shire horses on the cover of that Jethro Tull album knew, you should ask them. If it's any encouragement, I looked for tracks by Nita Rossi the other day. I looked on that tape you did me. But there weren't any. So Stuart David is leaving us, is he? That Peel session will probably be an emotional occasion, otherwise there'll be some stamping of feet and big huffs. I think we should all rush out and buy the next Gentle Waves album, just on the off-chance. I've been reading a fantastic book, "The Message" by Rodd Lumsden and Stephen Troussé. My favourite bit is when the hapless Troussé and his assistant go to a school to read out Boyzone lyrics to children. Didn't get arrested or anything. My other favourite thing about the book is the almost visible straining by several contributors not to go on and on about Morrissey. You should all rush out and buy it now, it mentions B&S too. And you'll be helping an NGO. Has anyone seen/experienced/been to Howie B's Pussyfoot Posse? It's here next week and I'm wondering how guilty to feel about not going. I like Howie B because I read an interview where they asked him aren't you a big square for going on tour with U2, and he answered no, because he could flick bogies at 60 000 people a night. Peter PS: Blake, I don't know, I've never heard them. PPS: Nick, what do you mean, "loads of other rubbish"? You're supposed to be making me feel special :-( +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittenmouse at xxx.com Sun Feb 13 22:28:14 2000 From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (kitten mouse) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:28:14 PST Subject: Sinister: blah blah and some printmaking stuff Message-ID: <20000213222814.64105.qmail@hotmail.com> hi again, i must say, i was rather insulted by alexander's post (name-calling always rubs me the wrong way), but at the same time, i've been checking the list crush votes ever since to see if i've got one. so i concede, he's a great kid and right for the most part, too, so i guess i'll submit my vote after i'm done here. i just don't like being called an asshole for not participating in things, ye know? anyway, my life just gets more pathetic every day. i don't think my boyfriend is ever going to come back from chicago now. he's been there for a couple months and i won't get into details why (although it has to do with family things, not our relationship). i went to a party last night at a friend's house. they've got a new roomie who just moved here from nyc, and she's really nice and whatnot. she has tons of musical instruments (even a theremin, which is much more authentic than my tiny little palm pilot theremin) and she even saw belle and sebastian live when they were in new york at the supper club. we're going to pay a visit to guitar center (evil!) next weekend. anyway, i'm sure i could fill you in on lots of other dull things about my life, like the scarf i'm knitting and whatnot, but i'll spare you the details. blah blah blah, andrea P.S. DON'T READ THIS UNLESS YOU ARE A PRINTMAKER OR WANT TO BE BORED SILLY well, there's one slightly exciting thing, i guess. i might have invented a new printmaking method...i'm not sure. i've just never read about it (but i haven't read much on printmaking) and i've never heard of it (but i haven't talked to that many experts), so if anyone's ever heard of this, tell me, cause i won't mind if it isn't original. basically, it's a lithography for lazy people, in that it looks kinda like lithography, but you don't use a stone and it has nothing to do with resistance of oil and water. what you do is take a piece of sign-making plastic (it's called sintra), and draw on it with a dark china marker (which is oil/wax based crayon thingy that you sharpen by unwrapping the paper). then you roll another color of ink over it (whatever you want the background color to be) or some sort of oil based medium (if you want the background to be w/o color) with a brayer. then put it (and a piece of paper, silly) thru a flatbed roller press with lots of pressure. the oil based ink transfers the china marker onto the paper, and oh, whatever...you probably aren't really interested in this. sorry. but really, any thoughts? contributions? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Mon Feb 14 00:29:07 2000 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 00:29:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: JD is taking over my life Message-ID: Thought I'd come to the computer lab to avoid sending my flatmates as mad as me, the problem is I've developed a new addiction, no not Jack Daniels but Joy Division. More on this later but first, mark said 'philosophy student' and 'religion' as a fellow philosophy student I can share with you a great way to annoy overly religious god botherers. Ask them if an omnipotent God could devise a maths problem so hard that it could never be solved. they invariably reply that he could cos he can do anything, all you need do now is ask them whether or not God could solve this problem. A lovely little dilema for them, just remember only to use it on intolerant biggots and not decent people who just happen to believe in God. Rachel said 'I want to know who my crush votes are from' and 'vote for someone else not me' well OK, one was from me and I shall unvote as soon as I can work out how to vote for nobody cos the state that I am in at the minute a crush from me is the last thing you would want. Andrea (kitten mouse) said 'theremin' which reminded me of the last time I saw Mercury Rev play live. the theremin noises were not played by a theremin which I wouldn't have minded too much if it were not for the fact that they had one onstage which they pretended to play. Back when I first saw them live (It was my first ever gig, I was 15 and not all wrinkled and 22 like now) David Baker was still with them and he would not have stood for that sort of shit, he was a proper mad one, they had a flute player who came on and played with them for about 30 seconds and then left again, it's stylish to pay someone for 30 seconds work a night. Baker taped his head up while screaming into the mike as well, and then argued with the rest of the band, they didn't get on too well, he travelled separately for the entire tour and just saw them for shows. I think he should re join the band now, the album Boces was better than anything the talentless cunts have done without him whatever crap hype machines like melody maker might say. now onto my slight problem, I can't listen to the mighty Belle and Sebastian at the minute, or just about any other music, nothing at all in fact except for Joy Division. Every time I turn on my sound system I feel the need to listen to them, if I put on other music I just get bored with it in less than 5 minutes and have to stop it and play more JD. I think my flatmates are becoming a bit worried by this but the thing is I have been of the oppinion that JD are the finest band to ever exist for many years now and they just sound better every time you listen to them. This has been going on for a couple of days and it's kind of weird but I really can't enjoy any other music right now. Perhaps I can break it by listening to some Galaxie 500, it could work if I start with their cover version of Ceremony but I don't know if I can listen to other stuff by them. I'm even listening to a Minidisc of JD live in Preston right now. Hmmm time for bed I think night night owen PS has anyone got a suggestion for what to call my 6-a-side footy team this year...my current favourite is The Joy Division. PPS appologies for a couple of diary posts followed by an unhinged one. With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From no_surprises_21 at xxx.com Mon Feb 14 02:03:51 2000 From: no_surprises_21 at xxx.com (Chris Heil) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 18:03:51 PST Subject: Sinister: put the comic strip back on the shelf Message-ID: <20000214020351.2756.qmail@hotmail.com> For any of you who didn't hear already...not only was Sunday the last ever new Peanuts comic strip..but late Saturday night Charles Shultz passed away. It's so so sad...and an extremely weird coincedence ..it's almost like he knew when he would die..and wanted to go the same time his beloved cartoon did. Until I saw the biography of him today on tv, I didn't realize how much impact Peanuts had on me growing up. It told stories in such an innocent way that no other cartoon or strip could do. I mean I still can't watch Charlie Brown christmas without shedding a tear..or have a halloween pass without thinking of the great pumpkin. Maybe I'm just being silly. But even though I didn't read the comic strip every week...or have seen any of the cartoons in quite a while..I can't help but feel I'm going to be missing them. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Mon Feb 14 05:55:06 2000 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:55:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: it takes more than milk to get rid of the taste Message-ID: <20000214055506.18769.qmail@web125.yahoomail.com> darlings. kitten mouse wrote: > knitting oh miss laura llew, i think that was a challenge. i think she wants to take it outside. andrea, you Don't want to mess with the crochet-ers. we are hardcore indeed. hey, i Heard those snickering "hookers" remarks back there! /me mutters "revenge will be mine!" and slinks away. right. so. it was honey's birthday today. er, yesterday. er, sunday. happy sweet sixteen, darling! and be sure not to break the laces on that new gingham dress, alright? i know how Rough you are on yr milkmaid uniform. they are indeed not very practical considering the Lengths to which we must go to Milk. although those aprons are quite cushiony for rolling under the knees while milking. yes'm. any girls seeking milkmaid Positions will have to see laura about that; any milkmaids seeking info on Chapter 27 of the milkmaid Manual can see me in Private behind the bales of hay. oh. saturday night i met up with brandt "putting the fun back in" fundak in pittsburgh at a show. i assure you all that he is a nice boy, even made me the most lovely "six degrees of rose melberg" tape, but of course i managed to become violently ill during the show and spent most of the night curled up on a couch. public apologies, brandt! and massive props indeed. luckily my more socially adept apartment mate managed to entertain the poor boy while i nursed my aching head. speaking of such apartment mate... i believe she's going to cave in and subscribe to sinister soon... she already spends time Watching me chat in sinister on IRC. haha, we've got her... oh, shout out to my girl, miss KIMberly! right. milky hugs&kisses to all. xoxo, ree ===== ************************************************************** "to me she was just marie." -mersault "hearts don't break/ the division is innate" -secret stars eliam at alleg.edu | littlearsonist at yahoo.com | aol IM:LazyJane22 ************************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Sun Feb 13 21:27:47 2000 From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:27:47 -0500 Subject: Sinister: you oughta give me wedding rings... Message-ID: <200002140607.BAA21100@s1.nassau.cv.net> oh, dear. i just read through a good 50 sinister posts, because i've been lazy and not keeping track... so i'll talk about the one interesting thing today... my band, bo coach, played a show. i sing, y'know, and i think i sang pretty good, except that forgot the words to one song and had to keep repeating one verse over and over. it was horrid. but all the other bands said we did really good. we had done a cover of a dan bern song (not to give the impression that we just do covers; it was one of the few we did), and there was a guy in the crowd singing along, which made me happy because dan's pretty obscure around here, especially considering that this was the punk crowd we were around (not to give the impression we play punk, either, though... well, not much. i try to keep noah's punkishness to a minimum. he does the same thing with me and tweeness, though.) so anyway, i talked with the guy about dan for awhile afterwards... he was pretty shy, but we had a good chat... then later i found out he was the keyboarding for the space robot scientists, an -incredible- local band who are just really really good and intimidating. so scary! so anyway, we have made up some demo tapes, and we have a bunch left... so if anyone wants one, e-mail me, and i'll send you my snail address. they're $2 each. i don't know what that is in pounds (or canadian dollars... or yen, for that matter), so you'll have to figure that part out yourselves. i got a list crush! i know who it is, but i didn't vote for her. i'm sorry, dear. :( i will e-mail you soon! i did vote for someone else, though... let's see if they can figure out who they are with a well- placed vote... hmm... anyway, i sleep now. - adam aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From g.roberts1 at xxx.uk Mon Feb 14 10:48:39 2000 From: g.roberts1 at xxx.uk (Gav Roberts) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:48:39 BST Subject: Sinister: A day in the life.... Message-ID: <4B6CF35144@uclan.ac.uk> Well. Where to start? I'm sat in a lab, supposedly learning about project management, but sod that, it's unbelievably dull. So I thought I'd drop you all a little ray of sunshine from my happy life. Last week was a belter. Vicki was here (Which makes me particularly happy...) and we went out drinking for a few days. She says I'm a bad influence on her, but how can that be if I wouldn't have gone out if she hadn't been here? AAAAHHHH, The power of logic. Other than that, the weekend was absolute bobbins (which is my word of the month...). United lost to the Geordies. Leeds won. So did the scousers. Sometimes football can be cruel. As far as B&S content goes, there isn't much (ooops). I got into them fairly late (1997) and have only just started to build up that all important back catalogue. But I only need the Dog On Wheels EP now. But it's ludicrously expensive, and I am but a poor student, does anyone know a cheap CD shop? Gav. "Time for bed" - Zebedee. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Mon Feb 14 12:08:40 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 04:08:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: happy valentines day!!! Message-ID: <20000214120840.23048.qmail@web603.mail.yahoo.com> Hello EVERYONE! I am in a shockingly good mood today, so I expect you all to appreciate it while its hanging around. And alas, sorry to hear of Stuart D leaving B+S, but Looper are a darn fine band. Anyway, I didn't see anyone getting all upset and posting lots of posts when I quit Italian to concerntrate on Norwegian. And why not??? ;) I've kept my vote for the lovely Alex Borgia. He asked me to vote for him, and I did, and for valentines day, well, he can keep it, not only cos I agree with what hes on about, but cos I actually do respect what hes saying most of the time anyway. so, how many truckloads of anonymous valentines cards did you all receive? I got one. From loverboy. First one since I was nine, where the boy in question argued with his friend whether to give it to me or his mum, cos apparently my hair was the colour of poo. ITS NOT! ITS DARK BROWN AND LOVELY!!! In response to overhearing this, I promptly scored out his name and gave mine to his best friend instead. So, twelve years on, and I receive a card which is genuine! And thankfully I didn't have to send it to myself, cos its always embarrassing when I forget or it gets lost in the post. Ahh! And some roses and a box of chocolates. Both of which always go down well with me. Well, the chocolates anyway, cos I don't eat flowers.... What a weekend! Made up with my flatmate. This means I can not piss in his shampoo as I intended to do, cos we're getting on dandy. Oh well. In fact, we're getting on extremely well. better than we ever have. Ever. Didn't do anything exciting, fixed the toilet, and felt incredibly proud of myself for this achievement. I know its not exciting to you, but it is to me!! My toilet is now the height of bathroom chic!! Anyway, I'm off to do what I do best- buy chocolates for myself. Love and hugs! Idleberry kiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskis ===== visit the idle site:http://www.geocities.com/idleberry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Mon Feb 14 12:32:33 2000 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 12:32:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: StuD is also special In-Reply-To: <01bf7668$1ff528a0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: Dearest all : NickyD was upset as we have not paid attention to Stuart David's leaving as the question deserved it.Poor Stuart D! As I have just read in someone else's email , I'd rather have Looper than his songs for Belle and Sebastian.It suits much better his electronic engineering lecturer looks and intentions,to be true.No many pop stars manage to stay untouched and go around as if they were lecturing Silicon Nanostructures and no time to do jeans washing,so he is Special,of course he is.But he seems happy enough with his doots and loops and wee Karn,don't worry. Peter Miller brought the Real-Cruel-World into Sinisters backyard once again stating the understated : Big Upstairs is the only thing. Specially on St Valentine's Day, no doubt, in every mag becomes a lingerie catalogue this week.Check that Observer thing for which our Dastard boy does research.That is how call it nowadays, to go through pages and pages of sultry females wearing less than nothing.OMIGOD. A. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From miss_modular at xxx.com Mon Feb 14 14:19:44 2000 From: miss_modular at xxx.com (diana ***) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:19:44 EST Subject: Sinister: toronto meet-up...and happy blech day to all.... Message-ID: <20000214141944.77881.qmail@hotmail.com> hello hello... happy valentines day and all that jazz. i remember when i was in highschool (being 6' tall and awkward...and having no guy wanting to touch me with a pointy stick) i called valentines day blech day and would dress all in black and sit alone in the corner listening to my bloody valentine and eating lots of anti valentines day snacks like apples and figs. take that corporate giants... usually the lovely and much more coherent debs writes to all the beautiful toronto crowd about the meet-ups but today you are stuck with me!!! poor you...i know. we are all going to get together this saturday, that is the 19th of february, at the green room between 7&8 to about 10:30 pm and then we are venturing over to blow up (i know, i know...but do you know place to shake your thang on a sat. evening..???) for those of you who haven't been to the green room before, it is rather tricky to find. you need to walk about a block and a half east of bathurst subway station until you hit the future bakery. you need to turn south here and walk until the laneway...turn right and you will see a big flashy/taky sign that says the green room. we'll be upstairs looking sinister. you can, of course, just decide to meet us at blow up....or you can email me privately if you need better directions or a possible subway station meet up!!! i'll wear my b&s pin...and most likely be wearing all black as per usual...and i am rather tall with black sticky-upy hair and brown horn rimmy kind of glasses...i'll probably be seen with pint in one hand, cigarette in other and foot in mouth. i, of course, look forward to seeing all your lovely faces....but if you have never came to one of our toronto meet ups then i am especially appealing to you...we love new faces!!! we won't force you to sing kumbaya or sacrifice you to the mods at blow up or anything. point blank, you are missing a wonderful opportunity to see me act like an idiot... once you see me dance like an idiot your self esteem will shoot through the roof and the world will seem like a better place again... see you all soon my pretties... xox and blech day figs... :) diana ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Mon Feb 14 14:24:22 2000 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:24:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Being Single Message-ID: The following goes out to all you lovely, special people out there who find themselves alone on a day like this. Yes, it's an excuse for a crap list, and it's called "10 GRATE reasons to be single": 1: You can do what you want when you want. Well if your mum lets you anyhow... 2: Everyday has potential to be that special day when you meet your own special someone. 3: You can have a crush on someone different everyday and variety, not Emma Bunton, is the spice of life after all. 4: You don't have to go into shops you otherwise wouldn't dream of going into and spend important beer money on presents. 5: You don't often argue with yourself about whether eating dog biscuits is a good thing. 6: You don't have to go meet his / her friends and pretend to like them and get in trouble in a conversation about fast cars when you say you always wanted a milk float. 7: You can justifiably spend every day wallowing in misery playing your favourite Morissey / Joy Division records. 8: When hampered by single-itis your friends and family tend to overlook your alcohol / smoking / obsessive about music / lack of career / not doing your homework / not tidying your room / kettle fetish problems. 9: You can sleep on both sides of the bed and not have to hold your farts in, and even smell them under the sheets if that's your bag. 10: No one can lean over and breathe on you in the morning only for you to find their breath smells of coleslaw. 11: You can make silly lists of why it's GRATE to be single. Maybe. And you don't get in trouble when you can't count. Love and hugs, especially to those who need them. Te ra Martin ear confection recordings (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Archel1978 at xxx.com Mon Feb 14 15:05:20 2000 From: Archel1978 at xxx.com (Archel1978 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:05:20 EST Subject: Sinister: return of the space cowgirl Message-ID: <9e.1202fd8.25d973b0@aol.com> hey. a very brief return into the ever exciting and turbulent world of sinister. i'm not even going to mention what is probably the only thing to have passed for an actual event in b&s world for months. i'm just sticking my head round the door and i don't want to embarrass myself by bumbling into the conversation... whatever it might be about. and the archives don't seem to be working. so forgive my ignorant intrusion. i do miss you all, as the fact that i had a sinister dream last night will testify. it took place in a club and swiftly descended into scandal and debauchery. so, pretty much based on reality, if tigermilking is anything to go by :) twee, my arse. speaking of which, before i get to doing a plug (sorry honey), let me tell you about my arse. hmm. on friday, i deposited said arse rather heavily on the open cd drawer of my stereo, having lost my balance while leaning across it to pick up tigermilk, thus catapulting a hefner cd into the bowels of the machine, which has put the whole thing out of action. later that day my hefner-hating boyfriend arrived to stay for the weekend and killed himself laughing. third world debt would be hefner's fault if he could only work out how. all mildly diverting. anyway, i'm really back just to say that my webzine is going to be up very soon, and please can you all go and look at it, because it's lovely, and wouldn't exist were it not for various sinisterines. it lives here: www.simonwood.co.uk/buzzwords and we always need more submissions of poetry, prose, and reviews, the more filthy/controversial/downright silly the better. send any stuff to buzzwords at bigfoot.com right. cheeky self-promoting bit over. i'm off back to my crazy cosmopolitan existence in brighton, where 'sinister' just describes those men who hang around under the arches on the seafront... lots of love, archel xxx *********** Buzzwords ~ new writing on the web ~ www.simonwood.co.uk/buzzwords +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Mon Feb 14 17:52:41 2000 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:52:41 PST Subject: Sinister: subterrenean?me? Message-ID: <20000214175241.35694.qmail@hotmail.com> ladidaaa!hello my little miserable people.... i am back1(bloody hell...) m,yer i returned from my little adventure in sunny ol' canterbury.NICE PLACE!!!it's so....,so old...so nice and beautiful.i wish i lived there.anyway.today i had my first lecture after a LONG time...it was ok.now i'm going to another one.oh yes it's the v-day.mmm,right. anyway,in canterbury i had this lovely chat with one of my friends.we talked about our favourite band.why,yes!Belle and the boy Sebastian... anyway,she does own TWTAS but she never got to listen carefully to them.she is a major fun of the pink floyd-which i really don't like.i respect them but i can't listen to them.she also likes the tindersticks (thumbs up for that),the walkabouts(yey),nick drake etc.so when she asked me how i would describe B&S i did mention nick drake but she opposed to that.she told me that B&S are really a mediocre band and too happy for her.(do you remember that story with b&s being a goth band?how do people come up with these things?)so,anyway,she eventually came down to the point that she can't listen to them because they are too light and that she can't find any connection between them and nick drake -apart from hazey jane II. she said that drake was a manic-deppressed person and that his whole attittude is reflected in his music but b&s are far more optimistic and ,well,not as ,should i say 'profound'yer,sth like that.i don't know.for me b&s are b&s and i am not sure i agree totally-or even at all with my friend. hmmm,it was an interesting conversation though.indeed... anyway,got to go now.i am glad that after a long time i talked about b&s. ........ i really don't like pink floyd....sorry... luv,'cause it's all you need,zoe ....carry on my brothers...carry on... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From modpopstar at xxx.com Mon Feb 14 18:00:08 2000 From: modpopstar at xxx.com (Leyla McNickle) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:00:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: "If Message-ID: <20000214180008.29379.qmail@web307.mail.yahoo.com> ===== http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pavilion/4941/ ******************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Mon Feb 14 18:12:57 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:12:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: get a life? Message-ID: <20000214181257.2440.qmail@web608.mail.yahoo.com> Hmm. I have come to the conclusion that I really need to get a life. not that I expect anyone to argue with me. thing is, only people I trully want to see are those from home. am I just homesick? I don't give a shit really about those at uni. fuck it. I'll speak to my councellor tomorrow. this is a depressing thought. ===== visit the idle site:http://www.geocities.com/idleberry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From modpopstar at xxx.com Mon Feb 14 18:19:43 2000 From: modpopstar at xxx.com (Leyla McNickle) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:19:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: "If you gave me a Fresh Carnation, I would only Crush It's Tender Pedals" Message-ID: <20000214181943.26358.qmail@web305.mail.yahoo.com> hello all sinister kids, Well, My subject heading does me in today. In honour of Valentines day...something from the Jam...haha. Well, Nothing says Valentines like waking up from a night of frightening Tornado weather and going to the dentist to get your Teeth Drilled. Oh, CAN YOU FEEL THE LOVE!! I can't...my gums are numb. To all of you kids pining for that special someone...the one with the "haircut"...the one with the "smile"...the one who reads a book of poems in the park..the one you lost at the tube station... good luck, find love..and if you can't find it...buy it. :) No, not Prostitution... Also, someone...whoever...voted for me for their List Crush, thank you...You must be crazy...but thank you. Who needs a Valentine when you got a Belle and Sebastian based love?..eh? I had a good weekend, drank a little too much...I can't decide if my Hangover from Thursday was any worse than the one from Saturday. Saturday, Sarah and I went to the pub...to meet up with some fellow floppy haired british music obsessed kids... nothing like a dozen people singing along to "Still Life"(suede) *sob* Only 17 days before Sarah ..Me & Co. fly to london... I can't wait. Club wise: Trash, Mousetrap, Blow-up are all looking quite promising. :) Thanks to everyone on the list who gave me suggestions to Club nights to attend... Well, I am not sad that I have no Love for Valentines... I will meet my love on the London Underground...It's fate. honest. **I love Everyone** love and sedatives, Leyla ===== http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pavilion/4941/ ******************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erica.macarthur at xxx.com Mon Feb 14 18:31:21 2000 From: erica.macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:31:21 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Don't be shy, straighten up your tie Message-ID: <007c01bf7719$cfb9a0c0$7f4c063e@default> Hello ratbags, Happy Valentines day, because I love you just as much as I hate your guts. May I first say how lovely it is, however breifly to hear from Archel. Valentines day, eh? What a load of PIFFLE. Having spent last saturday morning selling heart shaped chocolates and countless cheesy cards to people who look like they couldn't possibly be snogging ANYONE, I've decided the whole thing is a bunch of arse. This said, I do have a half eaten chocolate teddy bear lying disembodied next to me - he can't stand up anymore because I've eaten his toes. Poor thing, soon he'll just be a little red ribbon tied in a bow. He looks a bit like Alexander 'Dont Let Your Mouth Write a Cheque Your Butt Can't Cash' Borgia's bear, only less furry. I hope no one is sad this Valentines day. Like Martin said, there are so many reasons to be single these days. One more being that couples are sappy, hand-holding losers, who tend to have a permenantly glazed expression and often dribble without realising. And a package arrived today, addressed to Eric. M Arthur. Ha bloody ha! This is plainly NOT FUNNY. I was registered as Eric.A MacArthur in the school records until the fifth year, a fact which went unnoticed until my name didn't get called out with all the other girl's names lining up for our exams. No, *I* had to go and sit in the canteen with a load of grunting cads rather than in neat rows in the hall with the rest of the girls. I don't think I've ever fully recovered. Have I told you this story before? Before I float off with a head full of popmusic and a heart full of nothing, I must advise you all to buy 'Playground Love' by AIR (released today). Sure beats cards and flowers, I promise. Erica x *Laura - sincerely, thankyou very much, I will write to you personally soon. The House of Scarlet - Cold as ice cream but still as as sweet http://www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Mon Feb 14 18:58:17 2000 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:58:17 EST Subject: Sinister: put the comic strip back on the shelf Message-ID: <69.124c29f.25d9aa49@aol.com> In a message dated 2/13/00 9:12:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, no_surprises_21 at hotmail.com writes: << For any of you who didn't hear already...not only was Sunday the last ever new Peanuts comic strip..but late Saturday night Charles Shultz passed away. >> Talk about a terrible weekend. His son said that after Mr. Schultz decided to end the strip in December he seemed to lose his will to fight, and coupled with colon cancer and Parkinson's Disease, it didn't look promising. Its comforting to know that he died in his sleep, but something would be terribly wrong with a man who brought happiness and comfort to millions dying a painful death from cancer. I kind of formed an unhealthy bond with the strip in high school when everything in my life seemed to go wrong and the strip was the only thing that made sense to me (especially the way Charlie Brown handled defeat). Schultz said he wrote the strip with adults and high schoolers in mind because they were the only ones who could truly appreciate childhood for what it was. I agree with Chris that the holidays cartoons will never be topped. Personally, I can't imagine Christmas or Thanksgiving without their respective Charlie Brown episodes, and when you think about, I really can't imagine how America got on without the strip at all. Its probably not too evident to the UK folks on the list, but such a huge portion of our American lexicon and consciousness were formed by the strip that its end is pretty scary. I guess in a way its really sad that Charlie Brown never talked to the little red-haired girl, never hit the winning homerun, never kicked the football and never got a Valentine, but I like it better that way. Snoopy never finished his novel, never won a battle with the Red Baron and never won a case in court. Life rarely works out the way we intend, and I think that was the essence of Chuck Brown and the entire Peanuts crew. It was kind of comforting to know that even though the strip had ended, Schultz would still be with us and hopefully recovering from cancer. Its doubly distressing to lose the strip and its creator in the same weekend, right before Chuck Brown's vaunted Valentine's Day. I had always hoped to send him a letter or meet him in person, but I guess I missed my chance. Sorry for pissing on everyone's Valentine's Day... Steve C. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Which Paul?" "BLAH!" visit http://callowkids.tripod.com or your crush will hate you forever +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grey7 at xxx.net Mon Feb 14 19:00:02 2000 From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:00:02 -0500 Subject: Sinister: *so she hiked her skirt up and went in to see the fairy King... Message-ID: <002901bf771d$b42a6f20$4a381fce@default> The story seems to be going a bit by the wayside doesn't it? Hello Sinister Siblings, with luck your Happy Sappy Day is happy enough. Peter Miller had this to say and it could use repeating: "Thanks for all the moral guidance we've been having. I must remember to pass it on to any ten year olds I bump into. You don't need me to vote for you to know that I think you're special," Cheers to Peter for that, though I did snip off the "upstairs" bit, sinister boy he is. I'm afraid the only moral advice I have to share is to wash behind your ears and wear clean underwear, because you really never know do you? I shouldn't have to tell you all how nice and such you are right? and no one wants a mercy vote do they? My list crush vote is staying right where it is thank you very much, my crush has been most wonderful to me. Yes, I even know who it is and even was one of the beautiful Miss Crush's matches. Random B&S content: I really, really don't like "Boy done wrong again". Not even the Black Sessions version. I dislike it even more than "Electronic" from Tigermilk. Anyone else have a B&S song they just actively don't care for? Cheers to Lovely Llew for introducing me to the joy that is the Elephant Six Collective, more brilliant stuff I had never heard of. I also must add I'm happy to have converted someone from the list to my personal favorite band K's Choice. Oh, B&S is next in line I promise you, but K's holds a special place in my heart. Massive cheers to the wonderful and lovely Erica on her last posting for having the only post in a month to actually make me laugh out loud. Yes, it is a "bunch of arse" and all the rest of that. Hmmmm, I may have to take her advice about "Playground Love", would Miss Scarlet lead us wrong? Someone mentioned Joy Division and so I thought I'd share this from Zen Entertainment: "Danny Boyle's expected feature about the Manchester music scene may be a biopic on the band JOY DIVISION, which became NEW ORDER after frontman Ian Curtis hung himself" Personally, I never really cared for Joy Division, though I did like some of New Order's stuff. At the risk of being lynched I must say Morissey just annoyed me. zoe mentioned her friend who didn't like B&S because it was too happy...well, I guess some people like being unhappy, maybe it makes them feel more relevent. Having been down in the dark places myself for a time I'm afraid I still can't see the attraction. Oh, but I must say that Pink Floyd had their moments. Even though I like Floyd my favorite album is the one many never heard of, The Final Cut. Speaking of slightly depressing bands, I've been listening to Black Box Recorder's "England made me" of late and I must say it's damn fine stuff. More random B&S stuff: does anyone know if the tab/lyrics/music book will include the odds and ends such as Paper Boat? I know the ep's are going to be in it but what about those poor homeless songs? Looking back I see this post prolly isn't as funny/filthy/relevent/twee/etc as it could/should be so all apologies for not passing the test, I was never very good at grandstanding. Be Sinister children... Jim "Life is unfair, kill yourself or get over it"- Black Box Recorder, "England Made Me" "If you like music more than life, something's wrong. If you think that this song matters, somethings wrong"-K's Choice, "Something's Wrong" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Mon Feb 14 19:12:30 2000 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 19:12:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Everyone suffers in silence a burden, but they shouldn't, they should go on and on about it Message-ID: <80256885.0069C5A8.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Zoe, >so,anyway,she eventually came down to the point that she can't >listen to them because they are too light and that she can't find any >connection between them and nick drake -apart from hazey jane II. >she said that drake was a manic-deppressed person and that his whole >attittude is reflected in his music but b&s are far more optimistic and >,well,not as ,should i say 'profound'yer,sth like that. I'm sure your friend would claim you're misquoting her. But if not, you can tell her from me HA HA HA HA HA. Yeah man, like he really 'lived it'. Sometimes I wonder if I've built up a straw man when I set myself against this kind of absurd position, so it's nice to see there really are people who hold believe in it. Depressed = profound = worthwhile. Yeah, right. I don't actually deny that there are some artists whose mental illness and artistry are impossible to disentangle, but to over-extend from this and say that if art isn't doomy and/or epic then it's second-rate, well that's just bloody daft. And not everyone with depression wears it on their sleeve. I have a friend doesn't like them because there's 'too much singing'. Which is fair enough. Sorry to bring up WHO again, 60's WHO at that, but I experienced a musical epiphany the other day. I was listening to my radio walkman and 'My Generation' came on. Some pirate radio station with no respect for BBC local radio frequencies kept interfering with drum and bass and the whole thing was just CHAOS. But it was brilliant! It sounded three times as exciting that way, like Pete Townshend was trying to stop the tide of musical progress singlehandedly with his 'dow-now-dow-now-dow-now-dow-now' guitar. Or was that John Entwistle? Whatever. Not that I'm a luddite or anything. But it was a great scrap. After that, 'Venus in Furs' came on and that was good too. I recommend getting a crap FM radio and moving to Stoke Newington. I heard 'The State I am in' this way once too, but Stuart and his band of merrymen were really no match at all for North London's junglist massive. Perhaps I shouldn't have written 'junglist massive'. Po-faced 'Oh ho ho aren't these youth culture vernaculars a gas' remarks are so shit. I can just picture myself on some Radio 4 panel game. Someone sent me a listcrush on Valentine's Day. How nice! >I've been reading a fantastic book, "The Message" by Rodd Lumsden and >Stephen Troussé. My favourite bit is when the hapless Troussé and his >assistant go to a school to read out Boyzone lyrics to children. >Didn't get arrested or anything. My other favourite thing about the >book is the almost visible straining by several contributors not to go >on and on about Morrissey. You should all rush out and buy it now, it >mentions B&S too. And you'll be helping an NGO. Yes, it really is a good read. Know what you mean about the Morrissey thing, but in its defence I would say that joe brennan (who posts here under his 'cute' name of p f, or pinefox) writes the most spot-on description of why Morrissey lyrics are good even though in some ways they're shit that I have ever read. Talking of good reads, try searching for a book called 'Fine Art' on www.amazon.co.uk (not amazon.com) and see what the top recommendation is. I think this came up before in a 'pointers in c' guise, but that way doesn't work anymore. > PPS: Nick, what do you mean, "loads of other rubbish"? > You're supposed to be making me feel special :-( You know, like rubbish in a 'good way'. You know? In the same post from Oct 1997, Peter drew an analogy between major label pop and Buckaroo. You've gotta check it aaht. Talking of major label pop, I've become obsessed with Fiona Apple and her funny twitching movements in the video for 'Fast as you can'. She's got a new album out with a very very very long title that makes little sense. Damn, I'm not aware of this being done since Marc Bolan lamented the lack of sky in his people's hair nowadays. It was my plan to do launch my music career with this trick and now people will just say I'm the new Fiona Apple. Tony Blair has announced plans for a Minister of Pop but the big fool left the exclamation marks out. Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erica.macarthur at xxx.com Mon Feb 14 19:10:09 2000 From: erica.macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 19:10:09 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Don't be shy, straighten up your tie References: <200002141828.SAA02260@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <001d01bf771f$4853b480$2c46063e@default> Hello ratbags, Happy Valentines day Sinister, because I love you just as much as I hate your guts. May I first say how lovely it is, however breifly to hear from Archel. Valentines day, eh? What a load of PIFFLE. Having spent last saturday morning selling heart shaped chocolates and countless cheesy cards to people who look like they couldn't possibly be snogging ANYONE, I've decided the whole thing is a bunch of arse. This said, I do have a half eaten chocolate teddy bear lying disembodied next to me - he can't stand up anymore because I've eaten his toes. Poor thing, soon he'll just be a little red ribbon tied in a bow. He looks a bit like Alexander 'Dont Let Your Mouth Write a Cheque Your Butt Can't Cash' Borgia's bear, only less furry. I hope no one is sad this Valentines day. Like Martin said, there are so many reasons to be single these days. One more being that couples are sappy, hand-holding losers, who tend to have a permenantly glazed expression and often dribble without realising. And a package arrived today, addressed to Eric. M Arthur. Ha bloody ha! This is plainly NOT FUNNY. I was registered as Eric.A MacArthur in the school records until the fifth year, a fact which went unnoticed until my name didn't get called out with all the other girl's names lining up for our exams. No, *I* had to go and sit in the canteen with a load of grunting cads rather than in neat rows in the hall with the rest of the girls. I don't think I've ever fully recovered. Have I told you this story before? Before I float off with a head full of popmusic and a heart full of nothing, I must advise you all to buy 'Playground Love' by AIR (released today). Sure beats cards and flowers, I promise. Erica x *Laura - sincerely, thankyou very much, I will write to you personally soon. The House of Scarlet - Cold as ice cream but still as as sweet http://www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris.jones at xxx.uk Mon Feb 14 20:30:49 2000 From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:30:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Maths-Debating Message-ID: <200002142043.UAA24063@smtp.saqnet.co.uk> I need help with a debate. The motion is that teenagers are portrayed badly by the media, or that the media deplores teenagers, or something like that, and I am AGAINST it. I would like to make it really entertaining, and I am a bit stuck for idea, can anyone help? Thanks! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Tue Feb 15 00:04:25 2000 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:04:25 -0800 Subject: Sinister: i can't think of anything original to say Message-ID: ahh, valentine's day is here again. unfortunately my list crush voted for someone else, tho he's told me in secret that he has a crush on me too. so he's forgiven for not voting for me. on the bright side, one of my housemates made little envelopes for each of the rooms to put valentines in. this morning i woke up to find the most fanfuckingtastic powerpuff girls valentine sitting in my little envelope, featuring none other than the surly-as-hell BUTTERCUP, my personal fave of the group. i identify with her, being the surly brunette that she is. and the valentine was addressed to "sexy bunny," which made me giggle, because nobody's called me that in a couple months. i have a buttercup desktop picture on my computer dontcha know. she looks like she's read to kick some serious ass. and, hey, while i'm at it, here's a website for any of you powerpuff types where you can stock up on desktop patterns, themes, and even winamp skins (tho i have to convert them to MACamp skins because i'm on a mac. because i'm cool. :P). it's here: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Satellite/9323/mainpage.html hoho, more surprises ahead at the mailroom where i got a valentine fer real from a BOY. incidentally, the boy i've been friends with for a couple years and had sex with last friday (well, there's the requisite smut content). haven't seen him since that night, tho, because i've been laid up with a nasty cold all weekend. ahh, but now for some late-breaking news: he just called me. that's nice. he invited me over for tea and a movie tonight. i'll spare you the details of the whole sordid affair, tho, because it's all quite confusing. B&S CONTENT i don't like the boy done wrong again much, either. eventually took a liking to electronic renaissance, tho. my personal disliked song would have to be "the gate." buh. i hope you all have read my subimssion to lovely laura llew's literary list, BUT NOT THE HIPPOPOTAMUS by sandra boynton. it costs all of about $5 US, and i'll send you a copy if you want. you must read it. now. go out and buy it. now. it's a children's board book. and it's amazing. i should arrange things with honey so that in order to get out of the list nursery you have to read this book. it's that good. it'll take you 5 minutes. i swear. it's worth it. hey, maybe i'll scan it and put it on a secret little webpage somewhere so that people can read it. but that would be illegal. ho hum. oh well. i have to go put the "prom pictures" from this weekend on my computer off of my friend's digital camera now, so i'll leave. -kerry "your fantasies are unlikely. but beautiful." -stanley donwood +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachel at xxx.uk Mon Feb 14 22:57:14 2000 From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:57:14 -0000 Subject: Sinister: suprise suprise... Message-ID: <000901bf773e$ee6d9560$782f883e@preinstalledco> ...it's me again. yes me, not cilla black. though i did try out my new improved scouse accent at work today (i've been studying the last couple of brookside omnibuses). it wasn't what you'd call a roaring success, partly because all my accents are appalling, but mainly because i hadn't noticed that my form tutor was in the queue...i think that i *may* have implied that the reason i hadn't been officially at school for months was because i had moved to liverpool, a fairly decent excuse i would say...i mean, how could i possibly turn up in time for registration if i'm commuting from the mersey to the thames everyday? admittedly the actual distance i have to travel is ooh, about 3 1/2 miles down one road, but he doesn't know that...i don't want people thinking i'm just lazy... mind you, they'd be right. i am a lazy cow. i promised faithfully that i would do some work today, i convinced myself completely and utterly...i truly believed...like tinkerbell&peter pan....and now i'm sat here telling myself that monday's not over yet, there's still plenty of time...i've lied to everyone in my house, on the phone and in the supermarket, they all think i have written the first draft of my english coursework...only you know the truth... i haven't even read the bloody book yet... so what the hell have i done instead??? well, let's see, ummm, i...got up....wandered round my room (yeah...1 1/2 steps forward, 2 across, took me a while), somehow kept myself occupied by seeing how many ways i could arrange my shoes in a line for...blimey, must have been a good hour or so...looked at my folder, realised i only had 3 sheets of paper so had to go buy some, loitered in the stationary shop for a bit...by that stage it was time for lunch and neighbours, went to work late cos decided a cigarette was more important, got home late cos a cigarette (or two, maybe three) was more important...watched crap telly, stared at the ceiling for a while...and now i am sat here. a whole day!!!! a whole fucking day!!! HOW??? can someone please tell me how the hell i have managed to waste 13 hours doing absolutely fuck all??? i wouldn't mind but this happens to me EVERY day. every single sodding one. and i haven't even gone to the pub. my life is crap. alright, i went to work. for 4 hours. and i do sod all there as well. but for over 2/3 of my waking day so far i have done nothing of any worth whatsoever. even when i do turn up at school i'm there for a maximum of two hours. i'm useless, i really am. as you can *probably* tell i am very angry with myself. and i am also wallowing in self pity. i am sorry to inflict you all with this, but i think i have lost the plot. if i ever had it. can you suffer from terminal laziness, or is it just a mental state? does it pass? if it doesn't i may be forced to simply retire to my bed like some glamorous but ultimately self-centred has-been actress. someone that stuart murdoch could write cutting but slightly wistful songs about...now that's something to aim for! i'm feeling happier already! to make myself feel better by thinking i actually do matter, i'm going to quote owen quoting me...freaky or just bigheaded? you decide... >Rachel said 'I want to know who my crush votes are from' and 'vote for >someone else not me' >well OK, one was from me and I shall unvote as soon as I can work out how >to vote for nobody cos the state that I am in at the minute a crush from >me is the last thing you would want. now i'm sure i did mean it when i told people to change their crush votes (though it may have been cos alexander scared me...;))...just like i meant to write 1500 words on the representation of women in 'wide sargasso sea'... and admittedly in the last two days i've managed to tell you all that i'm a backstabbing lazy lying moaning selfish bitch...but, i wanna be loved!!! i take it back! i will try harder to make my posts interesting and maybe, if i practise lots, i might even have a crack at witty as well...you never know, one day i could type something worthwhile...! really, i am crushworthy...honest??? gav said: >Other than that, the weekend was absolute bobbins (which is my >word of the month...). United lost to the Geordies. Leeds won. So >did the scousers. Sometimes football can be cruel. all i have to say about this cruel sport is hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha and a few !!!!!!!!!! cos i feel like it. d'you know, that pinnacle of journalism that is the oxford mail even gave out a 5-star rating for an oxford player for the first time this millennium? i could have wet myself laughing, how the standards have dropped....bobbins would definitely be the word to describe it, but victorious bobbins, obviously and arantxa said: >Poor Stuart D! As I have just read in someone >else's email , I'd rather have Looper than his songs for Belle and >Sebastian yep, definitely. i like stuart d, i think he creates mood and images very clearly through his music...there has been talk of his spoken word pieces being 'pish'... au contraire, his words often make the hairs on the back of my neck start to tingle....maybe it's the voice, it makes me want to hug people and tell them i love them...but yeah, maybe his songs didn't fit with b&s, in that setting they did neither him or them justice...i hope everything works out for him, and i still can't ignore the anxious dread in the pit of my stomach that this is the beginning of the end.... this piece of worldly wisdom on the joys of being single is from martin, no particular reason why i'm repeating it, it just made me laugh.... >6: You don't have to go meet his / her friends and pretend to like them >and get in trouble in a conversation about fast cars when you say you >always wanted a milk float. a mate of mine, when very drunk, tried to get on a milk float while waving a tenner, shouting 'will this get me to little milton?' at 4 in the morning. while she clung desperately to the back of the vehicle with one foot trailing behind her in the air, the milkman sped up to all of 10 mph to try and shake her off, much to the helpless hilarity of all us onlookers. when this had no effect, he came to an abrupt halt, got out, picked her up off the floor of his trusty cart, deposited her at our feet, and continued on his way. the moral of this little tale? ummm...owning a milk float makes you vulnerable to drunkards? anyway...yet again i have bored you all stupid...i promise (i mean it this time!!!) i won't inflict another post on you until either i've got something to say, or until next week...wow! that'll be something to look forward to!! lovin' and leavin' y'all my sweetpeas rachel xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Mon Feb 14 23:52:47 2000 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:52:47 PST Subject: Sinister: her bosoms were like the two smoothest scoops of vanilla ever known* Message-ID: <20000214235247.94941.qmail@hotmail.com> Are we still doing that story in the subject title? I forget where the last one left off... kind Joss wrote: >Hark at that Stuart David, then. I just worry as to how Genevieve is going >to take it. I have been in mourning!Sweet,sweet Stuart,poster-boy of my girlhood dreams! Stuart gives a good balance to Belle & Sebastian...yes,there's little Fashion Plate Isobel on one side,but there's Stuart...a bit dirty,a bit moody,in the corner.Oh he's so lovely,he really is! I know we tease about the beard,the unwashed clothes (and body?)but he really is gorgeous..and it's his whole attitude..I remember when I first heard Belle & Sebastian I had no clue as to who the members were/what the played..but I saw that picture of him gazing down with his accordion..ohh..swoon...I know he will play occasionaly on records and stuff,but still it's not the same...I really wanted to see Belle & Sebastian live built like I first heard them (Yes..some of US still haven't seen them live...)And I know I'm being selfish..his career with books/Looper etc etc etc..but still I want him in Belle & Sebastian.Oh well.Like David Moore said..."I hope that the quietly self-deprecating & pish-taking humour & his ability not to take himself too seriously role gets adequately covered too." Exactly! He adds balance..and also the fact that he's not cutesy-wutesy..pah..I prefer stubble to tigers-ears. Happy Valentine's Day,little ones..hee hee..some of your embittered posts towards Valentine's days are so funny..especially the girl who dressed all in black and ate figs against the corporations! :) I enjoy observing all the couples,all the acts done to impress the significant others for one day..so many men hurrying back home,briefcases in one hand,flowers in the other..Romance should be happening all year long,silly boys...it's seems Romance is dead though (been replaced by ugly teen lust)But if I close my eyes I can envision it..Mmmmm.... The birthday party for my Little Cousin went splendidly on sunday..how resplendent she was when she appeared in her little pink satin ballgown,her hair all done up,..breathtaking!..she was pure Sweetness and Honey :) kisses, genevieve p.s With those sketches..I think erica should be a fashion designer... p.p.s When will the new slip/clothing/fetish wear gallery be unveiled? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From freezebum at xxx.com Tue Feb 15 04:14:28 2000 From: freezebum at xxx.com (yellow bananas) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 04:14:28 GMT Subject: Sinister: the eyes of a gigolo Message-ID: <20000215041428.55348.qmail@hotmail.com> the subject line has nothing to do with this post. i'm just an unoriginal BOB. boring ol' bitch/bastard. v day was a joke as usual. roses were going for $8 a stalk on sunday, and by monday evening, they were sold for virtually nothing. me and my friend pretended to be lesbians on sunday evening just to piss the flower sellers off a bit. apparently, u have to be hetero to celebrate v day. so let me just say that being non-white, fat and lesbian is really disempowering. or maybe it's cos we were just pretending. i went to a book sale and "how to be successful" books were going at 50% discount. huh. HY ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From joefri714 at xxx.com Tue Feb 15 05:28:42 2000 From: joefri714 at xxx.com (Boygirlorder .) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 05:28:42 GMT Subject: Sinister: and what would you like mark to do (other than shut up) Message-ID: <20000215052842.99353.qmail@hotmail.com> well people..here I am once again..typing a post that will ceartainly run far too long, go overbudget, and end my sinister post career (hopefully in a blaze of glory full of whores, coke, and swimming pools full of champagne). in any case ive noticed a few people expressing different ideas of what their sinister is�and what they like to see�and likewise what they dislike seeing in a post..being the accomodating soul that I am, I have made this post choose your own adventure�of course if you fail to read it start to finish (which, subsequently I don�t recommend�the shits long !) all temporal unity will be thrown out the window�but what the hell..its in good company with my grammar, spelling and good judgement. Anyway�.just follow the numbers to what you want to see happen�(I still recommend the old fashioned way�but hey...be adventerous once)..if you choose your own adventure you are in for some scrolling!!�..its all done with..but we can pretend�cant we? 1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1* so�that stuart david huh?�.(no im not just mentioning this cause its been said that very few did!..how dare you say that) I think it�s a shame that ill never get to see our lovely band in its entirety live, but im just hoping the big move will mean that mr. david will use his freed up time to give us more material�.be it musical or literary�.and I like to see that the band wont replace him..just deal�that�s always a nice thing to see�I guess maybe they�ll be a little different�maybe not�well have to wait and see�..and wait�and wait�*sigh* [4] send mark to make enemies with his liver [3]send mark along americas golden highways [end] get the fuck out 2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2* my friend had her birthday this weekend�and we had a discussion about getting older�and its not getting older that gets people..its getting old�maybe the time of your life between 18/20 is the real life �and then one day� �up until then its all set up, background information�.character sketches and intoductions�then we hit the gate�.�and then one day��the beginning ends, the middle begins, and we try to keep the end from rooting into the ground�and if a life were a day..sunrise would be at 18�theres two times a day that you can look directly into the sun�sunrise and sunset�.the day is long�.but then we realized that we were just a pair of stupid drunk twits who don�t know shit about dick�much less the lives weve yet to live�youth are pompous�lives arent stories..they arent analogies..they never will be..ill stop now. [7] hear news of the coming DOOMSDAY! [12] VD (and it is a disease) [end] enough already 3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3* loaded up the car with my dirty clothes and a few fun things and headed out on to the great us highways�headed for home for a weekend of plans plans plans�plans never work�tolls + gas + food + oil = empty wallet�driving foot on the gas..a wee bit to hard�stereo up a wee bit too loud�having far too much fun�.reveling in the dirty looks from my fellow motorists as I shout at them : �I DON�T LOVE ANYONE!��.soaking in the greasy stares of the tollbooth workers as I breeze in and out of their little piece of heaven�neither turning down the stereo nor paying them any attention (my money is enough)�realizing that an english degree is foolish..i need to be a bus driver..or a cabbie (I can see it now..ill take up smoking and being rude to pretty young girls)�ill work on that after I receive my doctorate in cold rockin it!!! [5] witness llewd acts on city streets [9] see mark get insulted [end] I know I suck 4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4* returned home just in time to get a free meal and lecture from the �rents�I love chicken�made it home about one hour too late to make it to the will oldham show like I had intended so I did a blanket search of southern new jersey for something to do..not surprisingly it took me a while to find the fun�.but eventually I managed to alienate my liver from all of my other organs�.spent the night drinking..smoking and playing crazy taxi�(its an omen)�.pretending I wasn�t missing a great show� [11] witness mark at his white trash best [6] observe flying pastries and the consequences [end] still here? 5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5* a while back someone mentioned seeing things you were embarrased to speak about�(hey I only {thank god}..post once a month�I know im behind..but no one seemed to run with it anyway)..well once I was coming up from the subway in lovely philadelphia�as I climbed the stairs a pair of legs glided into my ken�no�a team of legs�.so I says to myself I says �HUH?��I continue climbing with a slight sense of curiosity�.which was quickly replaced by a burning in my tummy as I spied two VERY LARGE men having anal sex right on the sidewalk�it must have been nice to be having so much fun that they didn�t care about their surroundings one bit [8] hear mark bitch about snow [7] the end is nigh! [end] just stop it you pompous whore 666*666*666*666*666*666*666*666*666*666*666*666*666*666*666*666*666* picture: four young men driving around late night in suburban new jersey with very little to do�while stopped at a red light, one of said four young men decides to hurl his half eaten jelly donut at a very large pickup truck stopped in front of the very small car he is a passenger in�..the donut is thrown..the rednecks are pissed..the boy is pummeled.. the hicks drive away�.this my friends, is the glamorous life I lead�.i just watched�..MUFFIN! [12] be mine [2]you wanna hear trite rambling�this is the way to go [end] yeah�you know the way out 7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7* THE DAYS ARE GETTING SHORTER�..I HEARD IT ON THE RADIO�..apparently because of all the damns around the world�there is less water around the equator and the world is spinning at a different rate��SCARY! [6] JELLY DONUT! [8] isnt it cold outside [end]let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya 8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8* im very sick of winter�the snow is no longer romantic or pretty..its just dirty��very dirty and gross�although dirty snow does give me fond memories of driving with my father to massachussetts as a kid�.seemingly awake�but not blinking..dead tired�listening to denise williams� �lets hear it for the boy� over and over�..but I digress �spring come soon. [1] B&S content? huh? [11] (for symetry) mark wants to bowl!! [end] ive had it with your monkey business 9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9* fade in mark, our protagonist, enters stage right. he is just in from the chilly new jersey evening. he carries a song in his heart and a backpack containing a bag of snacks. he is parched from the long drive to what promises to be a rather pathetic gathering of slight acquaintences. as he begins to pour his refreshing bevvie, a frothy root beer, he notices: brian, our antagonist, enters stage left. brian, a newly gay young man, loud in composure and pompous in attitude, approaches our hero. he carries with him his ever present �beat reader� and a slinky he has deemed the �gay pride slinky. brian: so are you trying to look intellectual or is that just a side effect of college? mark here explodes in a tirade of explatives and near attacks�..the camera zooms out slowly and fades to black [2] bullshit about growin up [5] anal sex anyone (I hear it�s a lie!!) [end] get me away from here im dying 10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10* guess who went to see the clientele�.yup�little old me..arent I just too fucking hip..but they were very good�and they played at my friends school�so I got a nice visit in as well..yay me! [3] kinda like a springsteen song [4] whats wrong with my liver [end] just stop it 11*11*11*11*11*11*11*11*11*11*11*11*11*11*11*11*11*11*11*11*11*11*11* ok so my college has decided that no longer will it offer the time tested fun activity of bowling..(keep in mind I go three times a week)�they have decided that is no longer in demand�.instead they are going to tearup the lanes and replace them with a fancy shmansy coffee shop�.see�there are already at least 9 places to get a cup of coffee on campus�why my bowling ally..ill tell you why..cause nowhere else offers all the little pretentious pukes a place to be hip and smart and better than me�.yes im bitter�.haiku: cofee isnt "smart" your peacoat is blue and dear god neither are you with all that coffee, maybe would you please fuck off your heart will go boom see!�I could be �intellectual� too�love me!..but let me bowl [9] how rude [10] just to prove that mark is hip� [ end] you know the way out 12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12*12* valentines day was today�people seem to repulse me these days�cept the ones I like �.i don�t contradict�of course not�since I knew today was going to be harsh�I put on my favorite old shirt..ive had it since I was 12..its not holding up too well�but ya know�comfort clothing�.my socks have litle roses on them�and I didn�t even plan that..yay me!�at my school they tied red baloons all across the railing of this one bridge�bye noon they were all deflated and popped�I thought it looked rather poignant, till I realized they were just baloons.. [10] to reenforce my hipness [end] youre so close anyway end*end*end*end*end*end*end*end*end*end*end*end*end*end*end*end*end* well that�s it�marks post for this month�(quite possibly the last..this was a bad idea)�but hey�I just wanted to say hello to all of you�and now I will crawl back into my hole�.oh yeah�will porter told me to post this�.ITS ALL WILLS FAULT�..oh well�im off to go hit on julie some more�.have a nice everyday...ya know...this post will probably get all screwy anyway when i send it in...i suck /me HEART�S sinister, mark ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarahduston at xxx.com Tue Feb 15 07:34:04 2000 From: sarahduston at xxx.com (Sarah and Leyla) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:34:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: "Big Mouth Strikes Again" double post. Message-ID: <20000215073404.13725.qmail@web3001.mail.yahoo.com> As Valentines Day is officially over, an ours is winding to a close, we wonder if we truly have something to say, but really does anyone have anything to say? I do, want to thank Ian for his incredibly poetic post entitled "Maybe Y2K will bring the rain." He captures through a keen story telling sense why we all love music, because it comes so close to home and shows us that it is fundamentally important to see and experience life through the eyes of others. (now that I am feeling appropriately ridiculous, here is Leyla--who bought me a flower for Valentines by the way) Leyla: Sarah wrote me a lovely card, with a picture of my boyfriend..er, Neil Codling in it..hehe. Yeah, right. Also, I got some lovey dovey chocholates... Today, alone..I think I've gained 20 pounds. dear me. Who voted for for list crush? come on, Come out of the closet..(hehe) Im sorry, don't be offended...just a joke...don't remove your vote..can't we just Snogg and makeup? Sarah is putting sticky candy on my desk..and I might just have to beat her up now....cept...I luv her. So I cant. Awwwwwwwwww..... fuck off! Sarah: OK, I just have to comment about those valentine's heart message candy, oh, so cute, but ick...they taste awful! Leyla was sweet enough to give me a lovely yellow candy heart with YOU ROCK printed on it and I tried to uphold to rules of etiquette but I'm sorry, I had to spit that out! It tasted terrible and all the sugary-ness can't make up for the indescribable flavor (Leyla says it tastes like cock, but I'm not so sure!) Leyla: EM OKAY!! I did not say it tasted like "Cock" I said it tasted like "CACK!" gawd! Sarah is a pervert. honest. I just needed to do that disclamer so all list perverts wouldn't start harassing me for a blow job or something. I Imagine...all the biscuit nibbling weirdo's of sinister dropping their trousers for a good wank to this post, you're dirty, dirty librarians you are! Aren't you lot getting tired of our step by step play back of our lives yet? Its like..this morning i woke up..took a piss...had some cereal...then scratched my bum. Don't think you care, but neither do I! Yeh. Got some photo's of Sarah and I developed today... Sarah looks like a total rockstar in every photo..and as usual..I look like a total crack whore...not even a proper crack whore...a poseur of a crack whore...sigh. Sarah is listening to the Stone Roses...and getting rather excited.. I will let her write a bit more before she starts arse dancing. Sarah: I have a great deal of problems with what Leyla (the crack whore) just said: 1) She does NOT look like a crack whore! and I am a far cry from a rockstar 2) I like the old Stone Roses, Ian Brown has the voice of an angel and writes lovely lyrics about sweetness and love, so Piss Off! 3) Arse Dancing!!?? What is this in reference to? I am offended no matter what she means by that... OK, for the record, Leyla did not say that the candy tasted like cock, she made a sound like cack, and I misinterpreted! Leyla: I like Ian Brown as well, but I wouldn't compare him to an angel. He has the voice of a angel and a convict perhaps? hm. Anyway, good stuff nonetheless. Arse dancing, you know...Its those girls who navigate themselves around the dancefloor by their arses. Like the whole focal point of the dance is the arse, not the music, not your feet...hey..you could just stand still..but heavens, dont stop moving your arse! Hate those girls... but sarah isn't one of them...she does the King Monkey dance... no, im lying..she doesn't..I wish i could be mean, after that whole "cock" thing... but i guess I should just forgive her...but im sure i will leave her sticky candy in her handbag or something.. Sarah: OK, now that the whole cock fiasco is over, those pictures we took really came out quite nice if I do say so myself. Leyla is a photographer in case you didn't know. I got her the B&S badge with 3..6..9..seconds of light and the camera on it...nice! We took pictures at a playground and speaking of king Monkey, I got a photo of Leyla on the monkey bars, which she is too tall for, so it made a humorous pose..the child who has outgrown her toys...I wanted to get her sitting on one of those metal spring animals that you flail around on, but unfortunately, this playground was lacking in the finer points of children's play equipment. Leyla has a webpage which we will be posting these pictures on if anyone is interested, I bet you she won't let you have the address though...being so coy and all... Leyla: Yes. There is nothing like laughing at images of a 6ft tall silly looking moppy haired girl flailing about on monkey bars to get you going. Hey, It may even be an ego booster: "Wow, at least I don't look as idiotic as that girl does..." If i can just brighten the life of one person... my job is done! :) Yes, maybe I will put pictures on the page, maybe not. It all depends on the levels of alcohol I consume, the chocolate I am sent... and if I can be arsed. (listening to supergrass, where is my pogo stick??) Great, Sarah is now making fun of my spelling..Well, i guess I will just run off..listen to Morrissey...go to the bathtub..and slit my wrists. Goodbye cruel world... *sigh* No. Seriously though. Its now 3am. im tired. I have school. I would hereby like to disclaim everything I have written tonight... I blame the chocolates..sarah's constant harassment.. and er, robbie williams...(you can blame anything on him, shit). TA! good night! AND I SAID CACK! love and other sediments... leyla modpopstar at yahoo.com Sarah: I am not a harrasser! I am really rather nice! I want to thank Leyla for being my Valentine! So there! sweetness, I was only joking when I said.... Oh, yes Big Mouth strikes again.... I do have to work in 5 hours, good thing I never sleep. but I am being a bad influence on the impressionable youth of Leyla...so goodnight as well. Cheers, Sarah sarahduston at yahoo.com PS. thanks for the crush vote, nice Valentines day present it was...better than Chocolate (and not that wretched indie film by the way)--sarah __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Tue Feb 15 09:35:05 2000 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 01:35:05 PST Subject: Sinister: "Having a Boo Radley moment, are we?" Message-ID: <20000215093505.89203.qmail@hotmail.com> And now it's time for a post from Laura Llew. I hope that you find it entertaining, whimsical, and yet relevant, with an underlying visionary tone that belies Laura's emotional attachment to the subject matter...... OR at least something to do with your right finger as you click the delete key. Somehow I just could not resist the temptation of posting on this vapid Valentine's Day (happy sappy day, bitter day, emasculation day, singles awareness day, etc.). Though I have a wealth of friends, I'm really quite single and no matter what the benefits of reciprocal social integrational relationships are - it's just not the same as a boyfriend. Though please spare me the "being single is great" spiel. I just read an interesting analogy of how sex like supermarkets. You know, overrated. Just a lot of pushing and shoving and you still come out with very little at the end. Anyway, my point (which my hair covers nicely) is that I wasn't expecting this Valentines to be a good day. Happily, I was proven wrong. Not only did I get flowers, but I got books and music. What Valentine's Day could go wrong with a book? So, I spent my day happily whiling away the hours on a book that I should have read but never got around to (isn't that the definition of a classic?). I even got a pixies tape that I love today from am/fm digital surround sound John, my popex mentor. Oh the joys of the pixies and of popex. I was quite excited to see that my chums list "Since 1977" was the fourth biggest on popex (i just add everyone on my family tree and who's in sinister. If you want to be added just let me know your #). How BLUDDY GRATE. I remember quite a bit of talk (ok subject lines) of John Updike on the list a few months go. Just a lot of people seemed to be reading Run Rabbit Run. Well, has anyone read his new one "Gertrude and Claudius"? It takes the story of Hamlet before the play begins so that Hamlet's father is still alive. Yes, it even portrays the King as being a piggish man and Hamlet as being foppish (or so I hear from the reviews). I've always found that the different takes on Hamlet are quite interesting. I mean not the stories themselves but the ideas for them. I've always thought that the main idea behind "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead" was an intriguing one, even if the actual play does drone on for quite a bit. Has anyone else wonder how Sarah and Leyla type their posts. Do they take turns, does one do all the typing and just gets dictated to for half of the posts, or is one sitting on the other's lap. I think a picture to the sinister page is in order! Don't worry girls, you'll become famous. Wheaties boxes, video games, action figures, and an option in Mark's choose your own adventure posts....- the sky's the limit! Marie Elia wrote about the glories of crocheting again. Yes, we're forming a crocheting possee, gang, milk maid union, or something of the violent and ruffian nature. Down with the knitters! (Don't take that literally Ree). I was quite relieved to see that Marie didn't take offense to what I said about her in my last post. In fact, she was delighted to finally be "revealed" to the public. Of course, I don't dare say it would have been the first time for that. Well, I guess that I missed Valentine's day with this post. Oh well. A friend just reminded me in an e-mail of all these Peanuts memories. 'Snoopy once called February 15th "Gloat Day", since that's when you gloat over all the valentines you got the day before. Another Peanuts V-day memory - Charlie Brown rehearsing, over and over again, how he's going to present a valentine to Violet, as he's walking her way. Each time, he ends with "Happy Valentine's Day." But when he hands her the card, he says, "Merry Christmas." (Gary Larson would do a Far Side cartoon on this same theme - do you remember its closing line?)' I better stop now before I have to lean on Steve C's shoulder and cry. Love and Woodstock Laura ***************Laura Llew's Favorite New Listee********************* This goes out to the most charming Welsh boy who has quite endeared himself to me as my new younger brother. Not only does he have a great name but he's quite amusing and light hearted. So, please everyone be nice to the lovely.......... Llywelyn............ (or else). PS- notice that there was no bitterness at all in this? I'm quite impressed with myself. Nor did I make any disparaging remarks about boys like that they should just draw yellow lines down their back so girls don't collide when we walk all over them. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Tue Feb 15 11:06:41 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:06:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: "Slightly off-topic thread becomes on-topic!" shocker! Message-ID: Moobury Mark said: > Sorry to go on, once again... but I'm curious, can any of this > bullshit reasonably be reasoned? I don't know much about biology > or neurology - I'm a philosophy student - but I do have an interest > inb whether ideas which seem ridiculous can be argued for. I can't > imagine any possible way in which such blatent biggotry could be > defended, and I'd really love to meat someone who thinks > otherwise... preferably down a dark alleyway, armed with a > baseball bat and a healthy set of emotions.... I *did* like the typo "meat" in this by the way. I'm not sure if it was a by-mistake-on-purpose typo, in which case I'm embarrasssed now :) Mark, the only (non-religious) argument left "against" being gay as far as I can see (as if you can argue "against" the existence of irons or ironing boards) is that "it's not natural!". It's the one my Dad uses when he's not watching Blind Date. Something about them not making babies, which I think shows what some people thought sex was for all along. When you say "well is wearing clothes or making toast natural?" you're told not to be ridiculous and later on you get shouted at for not taking the dishes into the kitchen and leaving your shoes lying around. The religious arguments are all based on a few verses in the bible, which seem to put being gay on a par with drunkeness, so you lot are in trouble; and they completely gloss over the fact that we don't take the sin of wearing purple clothing (Leviticus somewhere) quite as seriously. Sorry for those who like Leviticus, but I do get a bit tired of this, I'm not trying to be offensive, but it just is a bit in some people's hands you know? Anyway to the point of my mail. I'm sure www.godhatesfags.com won't like this one, which I've included below: http://dotmusic.com/news/February2000/news12969.asp "'You might as well legislate against left-handedness,' said Murdoch.", presumably thinking of what being Sinister is all about (in latin). Aww :) For non-UKers, Section 28 was a law brought in under the blessed Mrs Thatcher which banned "the promotion" of homosexuality in schools, and its retention is being clung too by the Conservatives (and my Dad presumably) right now. Except in Scotland where they seem to have nearly got rid of it with hardly a mention in the British news. For "the promotion", in practice read "mentioning it as existing". A recent study in Edinburgh showed that gay people were four times more likely to get beaten up. Not sure if that's natural or not, I'll check with my Dad. Honey x (P.S. yes the archives are completely gummed up - I'm resurrecting them elsewhere. Thanks for letting me know xxx) --- EXCLUSIVE: BELLE AND SEBASTIAN BASH THE BISHOP Belle and Sebastain frontman Stuart Murdoch has launched a vitriolic attack on Clause 28, the British legislation which prevents the promotion of homosexuality in schools. Murdoch has also spoken for the first time about the departure of Stuart David from the band, which was exclusively announced on dotmusic last week.(*) Murdoch said Clause 28, which is currently under review by the government, is 'prejudice pure and simple'. 'The nation has stood-up proudly to declare its prejudice. 'Yes we admit gay people exist, but as long as nobody talks about it we would be alright'. In a class of 30 or so kids, two or three of them will grow-up knowing they are gay. 'Section 28 denies they exist. It's prejudice pure and simple. You might as well legislate against left-handedness,' said Murdoch, whose band won a Brit award last year for Best Newcomers. Murdoch also weighed into Cardinal Thomas Winning, the Head of the Roman Catholic church in Scotland. 'I actually think people are pretty tolerant. I think if you got rid of the clause, nobody would give a shit. 'Old gits like Winning must just be scared of a Gay Tide coming to sweep the land. Why can't he just respect other people's preferences. We respect his. We respect his right not to have sex. He should just admit that some girls fancy girls and some boys fancy boys.' Talking about David's decision to quit Belle and Sebastian, Murdoch said: 'He's got his hands full with Looper, so he's quite happy to get on with that. We wish him all the best.' --- (*) apart from when he more or less said it himself a few months ago in that online chat :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Tue Feb 15 11:13:27 2000 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:13:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Uninteresting correction Message-ID: <80256886.003DE8F1.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> > Yes, it really is a good read.  Know what you mean about the Morrissey thing, >but in its defence I would say that joe brennan (who posts here under his 'cute' >name of p f, or pinefox) writes the most spot-on description of why Morrissey >lyrics are good even though in some ways they're shit that I have ever read. Err - for 'joe brennan' read 'joe brooker'. Lay in bed last night and thought 'I wrote brennan not brooker'. It was a terrible moment. Who is joe brennan? He must be on my mind. I got no post at all yesterday, which was unusual. There's usually at least one Freeman's catalogue or invitation to take out a bank loan. Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cjromeu at xxx.pt Tue Feb 15 11:24:36 2000 From: cjromeu at xxx.pt (Tiago Romeu) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:24:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: and not everyone with depressions wears it on their sleeve.. . In-Reply-To: <200002150530.FAA19402@missprint.org> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000215122436.0088ba70@mail.eunet.pt> > >Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 19:12:30 +0000 >From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk > >I'm sure your friend would claim you're misquoting her. But if not, you can >tell her from me HA HA HA HA HA. Yeah man, like he really 'lived it'. >Sometimes I wonder if I've built up a straw man when I set myself against this >kind of absurd position, so it's nice to see there really are people who hold >believe in it. Depressed = profound = worthwhile. Yeah, right. > >I don't actually deny that there are some artists whose mental illness and >artistry are impossible to disentangle, but to over-extend from this and say >that if art isn't doomy and/or epic then it's second-rate, well that's just >bloody daft. And not everyone with depression wears it on their sleeve. > hummmmm... not only he has lived but he also died for it. as far as i know, he commited suicide precisely due to a neurosis of maniac-depression. i believe you are onyl against the fact that people consider him worthwhile just because he suffered. that is wrong, but don't misjudge himself just because *some* people tend to do that. he is worthy because he made beautiful and very honest, simple and personal music. and b&s may be a bit more uplifting but songs like "the boy done wrong again" or "we rule the school" are not that far away from nick's atmosphere itself. about charles schultz => tender people should not die. a sinister handshake tiago +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Feb 15 13:12:03 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 05:12:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: depression? eh? Message-ID: <20000215131203.5845.qmail@web606.mail.yahoo.com> well, personally I reckon theres a lot of arrogant and frankly, disgustingly ignorant people discussing depression at the moment. while its easy for people to look at it and think "yeah! right" and consider it merely a trend, you know theres a lot of people who suffer depression for real. Depression is something i'm sure we've all experienced at some point in our lives, whether it is the death of a member of our family or a friend (grief) or if its just having a low day (crap). There's nothing black and white about it, what might get me upset for example, won't bother other people. and vice versa. I don't believe that just because someone can say "I am depressive" as a medical statement means that they are the only one with the right to be depressed. There are many different levels of depression. Sometimes depression is a lot deeper and sometimes it passes by with time, depending upon the situation and circumstances. And I certainly don't think that its a term that people who suffer it on a medical level use lightly to make themselves sound "profound". In fact, I can't really imagine why anyone would say it to make themselves sound profound or interesting. So if you really want to discuss this, at least have a little thought for what you're discussing and the people who you so arrogantly dismiss for saying they have depression. Whether its about being medically depressed or being depressed on a level thats not quite so dark, its not a subject that should be treated so flipantly. Thanks. ===== visit the idle site:http://www.geocities.com/idleberry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Tue Feb 15 13:33:28 2000 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (Angel Blackwell) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 08:33:28 EST Subject: Sinister: why'd she use the f word when she never ever spoke Message-ID: <20000215133328.17599.qmail@hotmail.com> Wanna know what I got for Valentine's Day? Mugged/robbed. Oh well, that's what I get for living in a neighbourhood nicknamed crack alley. It was stupid because I'm a little push over bean pole, but at least they only took my booze and gave me back my photos...muggers with a heart of gold. Okay, StuD's gone, and I'm glad. There will prolly now be a better flow and direction to the albums coming out from B&S... Venereal Day is passed as well...quite uneventful I guess...but that's just me. I had my boyfriend and my the exboyfriend before him sitting with me on the couch watching a horrible episode of Ally McBeal. This was pretty romantic for me...ask Diana and Debbie, the only reason they knew Justice was my boyfriend was because he happened to live with me...heehee. If books on How to Be Successful are all 50% off, the authors of said books are in a way failures themselves if there's extra stock left over? luv and squishes the angel of crack alley. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Tue Feb 15 13:35:19 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 13:35:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: new 'guardian' diary entries (fwd) Message-ID: Dotmusic exclusive did I say? Which looks like it might mean "we exclusively nicked it from the band's WWW site". You'll spot a remarkable similarity between Dotmusic's "exclusive" I passed on and the second B&S band entry below from Stuart. Anyway, the band office passed on these two new entries which should be the Mick's own WWW site now at: http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home/ Listening to Lambchop's new LP and eating chocolate raisins. The perfect combination mmm. Exclusively yours, Miss Honey x -- Sin"is*ter (?), a. [Accented on the middle syllable by the older poets, as Shakespeare, Milton, Dryden.] [L. sinister: cf. F. sinistre.] 1. On the left hand, or the side of the left hand; left; -- opposed to dexter, or right. Here on his sinister cheek." Shak. "My mother's blood Runs on the dexter cheek, and this sinister Bounds in my father's Shak." ---------- Forwarded message ---------- DIARY OF A BAND 26th January 2000 Part 7 of Guardian's exclusive Belle & Sebastian's diary Well, aren't you glad that's all over and we can get back to normal? Yes, the winter shutdown has finished and after Saturday the sports pages will have something real to write about instead of 'Roy Keane to join Celtic in three years' or 'Old Firm to play in League of Wales'. Meanwhile, work continues apace on the album. Every morning we turn up at the studio, plug in and jam solidly for eight hours. Stuart freeforms vocally over the top. Meaningless syllables or the perfect language of Adam- who knows. I shout out a clue from the Herald crossword. Stevie solos on a stringed instrument made from a live turtle acquired on a recent promotional trip to Madagascar. "This is great," says Tony. He downs a bottle of Jack Daniels, and turns every knob on the desk up full. A mobile phone rings. Tony puts a microphone on it. "More phone in my headphones," says Richard. We hit a groove. Tony hits record. It needs strings. The manuscript paper goes round like a peace pipe. Everyone writes two bars then passes it on. A phone call is made and within minutes the London Symphony Orchestra arrives, bringing with them an immense Chinese take-away. They settle down in the lounge to watch a Fast Show video. "Where's Richard?" someone asks. Turns out he is downstairs recording an EP of Australian-Croat drinking songs with Mark Viduka. By now we are drunk. We row furiously over whose turn it is to read Mojo, and the band breaks up. Stuart gives everyone a lift home. Tomorrow it will all start again, but now there are only six days left until the bailiffs come for our instruments. Chris Geddes ******************** DIARY OF A BAND 9th February 2000 Band member quits! Gay buses! It must be the latest Belle & Sebastian diary I heard that a spokeswoman for the band was fervently denying that Stuart David had left the band. Well, I'm fervently admitting that he is leaving the band. He's got his hands full with Looper, so he's quite happy to get on with that. We wish him all the best. Since I last wrote, the Nation has stood up proudly to declare its prejudice. "Yes we admit gay people exist, but as long as nobody talks about it we should be alright." In a class of 30 or so kids, two or three of them will grow up knowing they are gay. Section 28 denies they exist. It's prejudice pure and simple. You might as well legislate against left-handedness. "Class, we know there are left-handed people in the class. We tried in the past to make them write with their other hand, but we were wrong to do that. But if we ignore them maybe they will die out." I actually think that people are pretty tolerant. I think if you got rid of the clause nobody would give a shit. Old gits like Winning must just be scared of a Gay Tide coming to sweep the land. Why can't he just respect people's preferences. We respect his. We respect his right not to have sex. He should just admit that some girls fancy girls and some boys fancy boys. And that guy from Stagecoach can fuck off as well. His buses are shite anyway. Firstbus is a much better company. Firstbus is the funky gay bus company. I was suspicious when they took over Glasgow's buses but you should never be afraid of change. Like when Jack MacPhee 'Fresh from the Sea' took over from Lorettas- we tried it once and we never looked back. Stuart Murdoch +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com Tue Feb 15 14:18:57 2000 From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 06:18:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Auction of b&s goodies/catholics have no problem with gay people, just gay sex Message-ID: <20000215141857.18359.qmail@web1403.mail.yahoo.com> okay. hi. First things first - I'm holding an auction (on ebay) of signed b&s records (all the lps) and posters (modern rock song, tigermilk, and manchester town hall gigs) It's all helping to pay for an adventure week for some kids with learning and behavioural problems. if you want to check out that it is all "pukka" and above board, go to http://www.outwardbound-uk.org/project_skills.html okay? I'll give more details of the auction tomorrow. next - the section 28 thing. I could go on for an age and a fucking half about this. I think if people are going to discuss this, then they should know the facts of both sides of the argument. I personally don't believe that a homosexual lifestyle and family environment(ie. - katy stays with ron and dave, or whatever that book was) should be promoted as a replacement for a hetrosexual family environment, as it CANNOT BE EQUAL - there are two 'fathers' or 'mothers'. although I am a catholic (and incedentally, the cardinal lives 4 houses away from me, and is a bit of an arsehole, as stu M pointed out) religion doesn't really enter my argument. However, the catholic church HAS NO PROBLEM WITH HOMOSEXUALS. However, it does not agree with homosexual acts (ie. sex) due to it's definition of the purpose of sex. It believes that sex is a sign of commitment in a permanent loving relationship. It also belives that sex is there to consumate marriges and create a physical bond between two people, to create a reminder of thier love, in the form of a child. also, just the simple physiological structure of man and woman is such that they are desinged to have sex with one another. Apparently some grown men have had to walk around with nappies due to damage caused to their arse muscles. our re teacher told us that. he also told us how lesbian sex 'happens'. That whole fisting malarkey was news to me. We DO talk about sex in re. We DO talk about homosexuality, and hetrosexuality. We DO NOT deny that gay people exist. we do realise that boys fancy boys, and girls fancy girls. we do not have a problem with that. we just do not agree with any sort of sex ouside marriage, whether it be homo or hetrosexual. In fact, all the catholics that I know are more tolerant of homosexuals that the people I know who are not gay. Why? because part of the christian way of life is that everyone is equal, no- one should be picked on due to being different. and we do realise that other people have other views, and while I may not agree with them, I respect their right to have them. I don't think that promoting homosexuality in schools will change anything, because bigoted attitudes, are more often than not, created in the home, and no amout of persuading by a teacher will change a childs views from what thier parents taught them. If the parents were not bigoted, then neither would the children be. AND,AS STU m SAID - Stagecoach is SHITE. even if it costs less. But First Bus GAY? how can a bus company have a sexuality? beats me. I hope I haven't offended anyone in this mail. I just wanted to put across the true story of the catholic church, as they are so often misquoted, and misunderstood. remember the auction. Chris (not an arse-hole) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alex at xxx.uk Tue Feb 15 15:15:16 2000 From: alex at xxx.uk (pulped) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 16:15:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: nature boy Message-ID: Hiya, and wow - has it been a long time since I've written anything here... I'd just like to know if anyone else got the chance to see the new series 'Nature Boy' on BBC2 last night. I really thought it was great, unflinching, and rather compelling throughout. It goes to show that there is sometimes a ray of hope between all the dross usually associated with TV. Introduced with the Beth Orton theme song, and very brutal (but brutally honest) in huge parts... And next week it even involves a family of foxes. Ah well, just thought I's share my little experience with you. Take care everyone... Alex +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Tue Feb 15 15:02:20 2000 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 15:02:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: depression, eh? Message-ID: <80256886.00534E87.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Before anyone else gets cross, let me just make myself clear: I'm not denegrating people with depression. Read my post again. Jesus, enough of my friends and family have suffered from it / are suffering from it for me not to be so stupid. I was resenting the glamorisation of it, such as Zoe's friend seem to be expressing. >Depression is something i'm sure we've >all experienced at some point in our lives Err - I'm not sure you can really say this, but I suppose it comes down to definitions. I appreciate that the bit about wearing one's illness on one's sleeve might have appeared inflamatory, but it wasn't actaully meant as a slight upon anyone. It just occurred to me to make the (separate) point that even if an artist is suffering from depression, it needn't necessarily be explicit in their work. People may choose (or manage) to concern to shift the focus away from that. Neither am I slagging off Nick Drake: >that is wrong, but don't misjudge himself just > because *some* people tend to do that. Err - I didn't. I made no comment on Nick Drake's music at all, only on the attitude that B&S aren't as important as him *because* he was a depressive. Incidentally, I might be wrong about this, but I'm not sure he was *manic*-depressive - people often attribute manic-depression to artists just because they think it sounds more interesting. I think he was just a plain old unipolar depressive! For the record, I love his records to bits. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear. Friends? Nick xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Tue Feb 15 15:40:12 2000 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (Angel Blackwell) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 10:40:12 EST Subject: Sinister: you are a bit of an asshole Message-ID: <20000215154012.20064.qmail@hotmail.com> i just read this from Chris: "I personally don't believe that a homosexual lifestyle and family environment(ie. - katy stays with ron and dave, or whatever that book was) should be promoted as a replacement for a hetrosexual family environment, as it CANNOT BE EQUAL - there are two 'fathers' or 'mothers'." Oh what utter bullshit. This truly is the heat of the argument isn't it? Define family. Well, just because we can't create a life doesn't mean that we can't nurture it and help it to grow healthy. There is no perfect family, and I believe if you ask around in your obvious little world that there is no perfect family. Not only can we be equal but I could be an improvement. One male and one female is not the ideal; no one person can define what makes this absolutely required in a family. Then I further read: "However, the catholic church HAS NO PROBLEM WITH HOMOSEXUALS. However, it does not agree with homosexual acts (ie. sex) due to it's definition of the purpose of sex. It believes that sex is a sign of commitment in a permanent loving relationship. It also belives that sex is there to consumate marriges and create a physical bond between two people, to create a reminder of thier love, in the form of a child." Why oh thank you. Well you can keep your type of sex. And that lovely little insight into what happens between same sex couples is proof that your little Catholic teacher is practising his/her Catholic upbringing by grossly generalizing the issue. The physical nature of humans and animals in general has been around a lot longer that the notion of your religion. You have offended me but you have brought to light the teachings of the Catholic Church. The arrogance as well as an attempt at compassion. My government (Can.) is going through the same argument right now and one of the bigger arguments is Canada is not a church state. We are not ruled by one religion, we are protected to practice our religion even if it includes not following one at all. I want the same protection, awareness, compassion as everyone else without being reminded that I receive this only because I can be tolerated. Ugh...I've had too much caffeine I think. a. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.alder at xxx.uk Tue Feb 15 16:12:04 2000 From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 16:12:04 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Realized something haughtily Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F3352E46@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk> I didn't want to write anything yesterday because I was afraid of getting beaten to bits because I (whispers) got a card. I sympathise with the unbeloved amongst you, honestly I do. 23 valentines days have passed without a boyf (not my entire lifetime - my tale is not quite that sorry. I just haven't had one in February before). Were things to proceed at the same rate (and I sincerely hope they will not), I won't have such an enjoyable VD (did I write that? I think I did) until I'm 48. FORTY EIGHT!!! Shudders. Now, what was it that there Peter Miller said? Oh yeah... >>You don't need me to vote for you to know that I think you're special, especially if you've got a big "upstairs". That's the nicest thing I've ever heard in ages. It's great to know some people value a girl for her brainpower. Too many people in this world concentrate on the size of your tits. About time we had some more outrage on Sinister, isn't it? I'm SHOCKED, HORRIFIED, DISGUSTED, SICKENED, MADDENED and REVOLTED by the fact that some people can have such disregard for other people's feelings. I mean, how could Stinky Stu walk out on the band before I've ever even seen them live? It's not on and I'm very cross indeed. I saw an interesting programme on telly not long ago which was about dolphins. They showed two dolphins rubbing each others' bits with their flippers and they seemed to be quite enjoying it. They weren't making baby dolphins or anything, because they were both laydee dolphins, but they had big smiles on their faces and were making contented clicking noises. Isn't it amazing what they can get away with showing before the watershed these days? Some people think that dolphins are more intelligent than humans and you have to wonder... Then again, some people think that dolphins were monkeys. Right, I'm off to feed my postpet before he turns his little pink toes up. Juicy Lucy Lucy Alder SAP Project Administrator 3-6 St Pancras Way Tel: 020 7984 2590 London NW1 0QG Fax: 020 7984 2504 =================================================== This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seilsd at xxx.net Tue Feb 15 16:38:27 2000 From: seilsd at xxx.net (Damon Seils) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:38:27 -0500 Subject: Sinister: the pope has body parts too References: <20000215154012.20064.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <38A98100.5F8F3B18@earthlink.net> Hi, kids with body parts! BIG POOOOVES As I write this, I'm telling myself not to. But HoneyMiss opened the door, and I really am going to be brief. I've already made some of you read the article at the link below. It's by a playwright called Tony Kushner. It's good. http://www.thenation.com/issue/981109/1109KUSH.HTM Part of me thinks emails like the one from BabyChris are just silly. Another part of me *knows* they're silly, but they infuriate me anyway. I hate this feeling I have after receiving an email that's so transparently stupid and insulting. It kind of ruins the whole day, especially when it's the first thing I see at the office in the morning. Someone send some body parts to Honey first thing tomorrow morning, please. By the way, (1) there is no misconception about the Catholic Church. The "true story" of the Church is pretty clear to anyone who's ever skimmed through a history of the Western world; and (2) this whole "hate the sin, not the sinner" stuff... please stop. It's just a convenient cover for the self-righteous bigots of the world. And it's got nothing to do with compassion or tolerance. SKIN IS BETTER It's been a while since I updated the Body Parts Inventory. But I have recently completed another counting session and should have the new figures uploaded shortly. Now, I know you're tired, but this last batch was a bit boring. Can we please start talking about each other's bits again? It's time well spent, and much better than gay-bashing. Oh, I've just had an idea. BabyChris should be our next contributor to the Sinister Body Parts page. I'll put together the paperwork from the Enforcement Office. Bye bye... Damo Enforcer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Feb 15 16:36:03 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 16:36:03 -0000 Subject: Sinister: My face is leaving in 15 minutes, etc. Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22B7220D@SERVER1> My sinister belles and beaux, I'm not sure I've got Nicky D's point exactly, but the genius/mental illness thing - the best example in my little canon of knowledge is modern goddess Kristin Hersh. in case you've been unfortunate enough to miss out on her solo stuff and time with Throwing Muses, track down the song "Delicate Cutters" from the first Muses album. It was for years my favourite song in the world, despite the almost-irritating wailing sections (but don't let me put you off!), and will always be incredibly important to me even as music becomes less of a way of life (and, sadly, this is happening continuously). The fact that she wrote it while pregnant and half-mad does make me believe that it wouldn't have had half the emotional, 4 real power it has if she'd been, erm, chemically conventional. But at the same time Nicky is spot on about depression NOT equalling genius. It's almost always a fake, kids, don't let it take you in. It doesn't have to be so, but I think you can be pretty sure than anything that is marketed as such is about as 4 real as Lenny Kravitz. BabyChris wrote an interesting post, sections of which I disagree with (though I was looking to pick holes, I must admit). "However, the catholic church HAS NO PROBLEM WITH HOMOSEXUALS. However, it does not agree with homosexual acts (ie. sex) due to it's definition of the purpose of sex. It believes that sex is a sign of commitment in a permanent loving relationship. It also belives that sex is there to consumate marriges and create a physical bond between two people, to create a reminder of thier love, in the form of a child." Um...Isn't having impure thoughts a sin in your church? It is in all the hilarious vicar-in-the-cupboard sex comedies I've seen. Which kind of buggers (scuse the phrase) most gay people, I'd guess. And it seems obvious that gay relationships do actually fulfil most of the above criteria, with the exception of procreation. I don't quite understand the phrase "a reminder of their love" - why on earth would they need a reminder? So what I'm saying, basically, is I think Chris is being a wee bit of an apologist, and perhaps needs to think a little more about his faith and his approach to homosexuality. But I do appreciate what he's saying, and I did find his letter enlightening in many ways. However, my favourite bit of his letter was the following: "In fact, all the catholics that I know are more tolerant of homosexuals that (sic) the people I know who are not gay." There's a free entry to the next Tigermilking (provisionally Friday 10th March, kids!) for the first person to send me an accurate Venn diagram representing the above statement. Mmm, GCSE maths... Sarah and Leyla do rock, though, don't they? Non-gay, non-choose-you-own-adventure (sigh) Mark xxx ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 020 7224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Tue Feb 15 21:23:58 2000 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 13:23:58 -0800 Subject: Sinister: sinister dream Message-ID: i know it's lame, but i had a sinister dream last night, and i just remembered it, so i have to share. i was in scotland for some unknown reason with a friend of mine, and discovered that you could take a train to some station somewhere (mind you, i've never been to scotland before and am pretty oblivious to the geography) and if you filled out a form on a computer, honey would greet you at the station and show you a good time. (not like that, get your minds out of the gutter, people). anyway, the computer was on this podium-like thing, and it was the sinister computer. and you gave it your name, your time of departure, whether you wanted honey to meet you at the station or somewhere else, how much money you planned on spending, how long you were going to be visiting and all that stuff. so my friend and i show up at the station (no memory of any actual train rides, though), and there's honey looking like some kind of moustached-long-haired police officer with a little badge declaring who he is. then later his hair went short and the moustache went away. then my friend steve woke me up to get his camera back. so that's where the dream ends. still, it was amusing to say the least. now i just have this wonderful image of computers at train stations all over scotland connected by a vast network to honey's home, letting him know when sinisterines are coming for a visit. hehe. um, and since i just woke up none of that made any sense, i'm sure. sorry. -kerry "you'd better not be angry, you'd better not be sad. you'd better just enjoy the luxury of sympathy, if that's a luxury you have." -built to spill, "velvet waltz" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ar981611 at xxx.uk Tue Feb 15 19:13:21 2000 From: ar981611 at xxx.uk (Ailsa Ross) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 19:13:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Where to start.... Message-ID: <38A9A551.A1C1B5DF@student.paisley.ac.uk> Well first off, anyone wanting to know my views on the whole subject of depression can search the archives to their hearts content, especially anyone who thinks B&S songs are too happy. Also, people who think you have to talk it like you walk it. Look at comedians like Paul Merton, Caroline Aherne, Spike Milligan. All depression sufferers at one time or another and you don't hear them banging on about it all the time. Not like Thom Yorke or little teenage Manics fans. Not that I am accusing them of faking it, but we don't need to hear it all the time. This has all been covered a while ago, so onto something else: Namely, the whole gay/Catholic thing. Amongst other loads of contentious ill-thought out arguments (now Chris, I understand you didn't think them out, but do you have to swallow (ahem) them quite so whole-heartedly?), was this gem... > I personally don't believe that a homosexual lifestyle > and family environment(ie. - katy stays with ron and > dave, or whatever that book was) should be promoted as > a replacement for a hetrosexual family environment, as > it CANNOT BE EQUAL - there are two 'fathers' or > 'mothers'. Does this mean that anything without one father and one mother is wrong? OK, your (and formerly my) church see divorce as wrong, but what of in the case of bereavement? What if one finds oneself with one mother and NO father through no fault of your own? What's your God thinking of by depriving you of the normal family environment that seems so bloody important? Also this one: > However, it [the Catholic Church] does not agree with > homosexual acts (ie. sex) due to it's definition of > the purpose of sex. It believes that sex is a sign of > commitment in a permanent loving relationship. I am currently in as near to a permanent relationship as I would imagine possible, and don't need to be married to know that it will last (the wedding's for the family and all the other shit that goes with being married - I don't think "but we won't break up, honest" will convince in a court of law no matter how convinced we both are of it), so by your definition we are allowed to have sex (like we need the permission of any church) as we are in a permanent loving relationship. What about monogamous gays? These do exist, unless you think all gays are just like Stuart out of Queer as Folk, which they aren't. Also the bit about just to produce children as a reminder of your love. Why are people impotent and infertile? If you are a happily monogamously married Catholic, if you find out you are infertile, do you have to stop having sex as you aren't going to produce children? What about when you hit the menopause? Let's continue: > Apparently some grown men have had > to walk around with nappies due to damage caused to > their arse muscles. our re teacher told us that. he > also told us how lesbian sex 'happens'. That whole > fisting malarkey was news to me. And your RE teacher is one of these Keep the Clause types, I presume. I mean, you aren't ALLOWED to promote homosexuality as an acceptable lifestyle, so what better way not to than to tell people it's scary and evil and bad for you? As if Catholic guilt wasn't bad enough...How does he know how lesbian sex happens by the way? And does that mean anything a woman does to a woman is wrong is it's done to her by a man instead? Or is it not the nature of the act, just the perpetrator's gender? This is all horribly confusing and I certainly wouldn't want it explained like this to my kids. It's all a little bit fascist. Finally: > I don't think that promoting homosexuality in schools > will change anything, because bigoted attitudes, are > more often than not, created in the home, and no amout > of persuading by a teacher will change a childs views > from what thier parents taught them. If the parents > were not bigoted, then neither would the children be. Do your paretns share these attitudes, and if so why are you laying it all at the feet of your teacher, if no amount of persuading by them would sway you from what your parents told you first? So how do you suggest we stop the next generation from growing up as bigots, if you can't teach them and bigotry is inherited? I used to cringe as a child when my dad referred to people as poofs and darkies and the like, but he's got more tolerant as he's got older and as our generation have shown people like him that basically people are the same no matter what colour their skin or what they get up to behind closed doors with another consenting adult. I hope we are all boycotting Stagecoach buses by the way. For those of you not aware of what Struan was getting at, Brian Souter, the owner of Stagecoach buses and one of the richest businessmen in Scotland has offered an obscenely large amount of money to the Keep the Clause campaign, also backed by the Daily Record which Starry has already advised you to bombard with your junk. Do you think they'd get away with "get these blacks out of our homeland" or "Fascism lessons for all" campaigns? Doubt it... I would like to say I think Chris is perfectly entitled to his opinion, but I just get the sneaking suspicion that it's not really his opinion at all, just something he's learnt from an early age like his three times table or the alphabet. But if I'm wrong, and intelligent people genuinely believe there is something intrinsically wrong about wanting to have sex with someone you love, then I lose a little more hope every day. Golly this was rather serious wasn't it. I sort of promised myself I wouldn't get up on my high horse about this sort of stuff any more. But what the hell eh? Ailsa xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Tue Feb 15 18:43:57 2000 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 13:43:57 EST Subject: Sinister: Auction of b&s goodies/catholics have no problem with gay peopl... Message-ID: <75.19fa715.25daf86d@aol.com> In a message dated 2/15/00 9:30:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, babychriscrystalballs at yahoo.com writes: << However, the catholic church HAS NO PROBLEM WITH HOMOSEXUALS. However, it does not agree with homosexual acts (ie. sex) due to it's definition of the purpose of sex. It believes that sex is a sign of commitment in a permanent loving relationship. It also belives that sex is there to consumate marriges and create a physical bond between two people, to create a reminder of thier love, in the form of a child. >> First off I have to express sympathy for Chris because I too was raised Catholic and even went to Catholic school for my formative years as well. The Catholic Church will pound their ideals into your head until you are a helpless automaton simply on "repeat" for the rest of your life. I'm not saying Chris is a helpless automaton, but I'm guessing the above is something he was told and not something he's reasoned for himself. To the heart of the matter: if sexual relations are so undefilable to Catholics that they'd be wholeheartedly for the stripping of the rights of gays, then why the hell are priests screwing 8-year-old choir boys left and right? In Baltimore alone 13 priests are on trial for those kind of offenses this year, and I've heard of "fathers" still at it today. Perhaps they don't have a problem with homosexuality per se, but I don't think it validates their case any to say they only have a quarrel with its practice. Thats a nice little subversion. "We don't hate gays, we just hate it when they ACT gay." If that were the case then they'd ostensibly be all for gay marriages as long as they swear to abstinence, right? If were only the casual sex that upset them, they'd have done away with a good number of themselves by now. Catholicism is famous for rendering tons of guilt on its practitioners so let's not pretend they actually have objective viewpoints on anything. Furthermore, what Chris stated above implies that Catholics believe only homosexuals have casual sex and that hetero-folks only do it when they want a child. I don't even need to attack that one, because it just doesn't stand up at all. Chris, none of that was meant personally so I hope it doesn't upset you. Love and the Great Pumpkin Steve C. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Which Paul?" 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk Tue Feb 15 00:31:55 2000 From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (sweetie) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 00:31:55 -0000 Subject: Sinister: 3 dr pepper lids Message-ID: <000001bf77eb$12a84220$5c3e883e@anne666theasylum> sinister i sent my last post twice it wasnt me....er.... they made me do it it was an accident honest! i am doing a book called 'the war orphan' by rachel anderson for my reviewed personal reading at school. i got it out of the junior section of the school library. :) its quite good tho. well i enjoyed it. anyway i noticed the other day that it is dedicated to lawrence bradby and so is tigermilk oh yeah it was valentines day yesterday did anyone out there get anything nice?? i didnt. i never do. i dont send anything either. oh i just noticed i got mixed up on my last email with names and emails oops sorry steve c :( run devil run sweetie xox +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From freezebum at xxx.com Tue Feb 15 19:36:31 2000 From: freezebum at xxx.com (yellow bananas) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 19:36:31 GMT Subject: Sinister: a load of garbage and such Message-ID: <20000215193631.70508.qmail@hotmail.com> why do bigots even try to masquerade their bigotry with lameass attempts at contrived tolerance? >>I personally don't believe that a homosexual lifestyle and family >>environment... should be promoted as a replacement for a hetrosexual >>family environment, as it CANNOT BE EQUAL - there are two 'fathers' or 'mothers'. no one is saying that it's equal, but what makes being heterosexual 'common sense' in the first place? heterosexuality is a dominant ideology, granted, but that does not make it 'normal' or 'right', just dominant. the argument is based solely on the general assumption that a heterosexual family will produce better, happier and generally non-gay kids. which is, as we all should know, is a moralistic and baseless presumption. >>the catholic church... does not agree with homosexual acts... sex is there >>to consumate marriges and create a physical bond between two people, to >>create a reminder of thier love, in the form of a child. how can the church have no problems with homosexuals, but disparage their sexual lifestyle? that is a problem. it's a pathetic and lame excuse for bigotry. besides, u don't need to have sex to remind urself that u love some one. and please, having a kid to remind urself that u still love ur husband/wife is plain selfish and lame. >>In fact, all the catholics that I know are more tolerant of homosexuals >>that the people I know who are not gay... part of the christian way of >>life is that everyone is equal, no- one should be picked on due to being different. another lameass assumption that catholics are more tolerant than most pple. are there statistics or something? proof? christianity is certainly NOT a tolerant religion. there were the crusades, the balkan wars... and doesn't the bible threaten u with eternal hell and damnation should u choose not to believe in the biblical god? >>I don't think that promoting homosexuality in schools will change >>anything, because bigoted attitudes, are more often than not, created in >>the home, and no amout of persuading by a teacher will change a childs >>views from what thier parents taught them. how many assumptions are there in here?? at least do some research before coming up with an obviously controversial and an ultimately futile argument. why am i still pissed off? maybe i'm a bit extreme and a tad harsh, but anal (pardon the pun) moralists really get on my tits. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Tue Feb 15 19:44:05 2000 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 19:44:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Missed 1: Message-ID: <20000215194405.2609.qmail@web1704.mail.yahoo.com> Before I leave to call my mummy and watch QUEER AS FOLK TWO - Channel 4, 10pm to all UK-ists, may I say that I want Chris to post again. Only saying the words DAMAGE! ARSE MUSCLES!! NAPPIES!!! As I never laughed so hard in all my puff. Pun intended, fnurrrr. ARSE MUSCLES! Do breeders who have anal intercourse all wear nappies too? How wonderful! Sorry Chris, I shouldn't laugh at those crazy ideas but I just can't help it. My my my, oooo-wheee. arsemusclesdamagenappies I don't think a combination of words has made me laugh so much apart from someone saying "grr grr", and " flippers uranus todger". If you think this made no sense...then go and watch Queer as Folk 2. I bought the soundtrack today you know. And the GRATEST HITS of the Human League. I will resume normal witty and sarcastic service later. And Lesley Jo? You little cutie. If you ever come to London I could show you the dykiest experience of your life, ever. Why else do I always reply to your posts? I can't wait for a bit of fun. Even though lesbian sex is all about fisting, babychris told me so, and thats a bit scary. Can we just have a nice cup of tea instead and tell everyone we did? Byee! Sarah xo ===== "But just remember, when your teacher told you to always find a home for stray animals, she wasn't referring to your rectum." -- DNA Mag-AZINE. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dchard at xxx.ca Tue Feb 15 21:21:16 2000 From: dchard at xxx.ca (ipecac spice) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 17:21:16 -0400 (AST) Subject: Sinister: all the lonely people Message-ID: wow! what a powerful inbox of e-mails i just read from you folk. my 2 cents on the whole thing: why do so many people view what other people do in bed (or various other generally private locations) as such a threat? i'm another one of those canadians on the list and we have some bill now that will give common law gay and lesbian couples the same rights as common law opposite sex couples. maybe i don't watch the news much but i haven't seen/heard anyone complaining about it. the second cent: one of my friends from psych gave a presentation in our seminar class yesterday on growing up gay. it was to give everyone an idea of the research that's been done. it seems that educating children/teens in schools about homosexuality (realistically, like using protection and such) actually will decrease the transmission of stds among other benefits. it's a lot like putting condom machines in schools. give everyone the right tools and they will then be able to make an informed choice. ok, no more about that.. i could go on and on... i would like to retract my earlier statement that all girls want is total adoration. i don't know what we want. i am begining to think that i just want whatever i can't have. i am going to visit the b/f in a bit over a week. i am scared. i feel like being apart i can see more clearly. i am there for over a week and i have severe doubts that we are still going to be a couple at the end of it. anyone know how to deal with a situ like that? i mean what if we break-up midweek? i don't know anyone in ottawa. how awkward would that be if i had to stay for the rest of the time?! i can't not go b/c i need to see him before making a decision. it's as if he listens to nothing i say and just says "i love you" we can't have a converstion b/c everytime i get started talking about something he responds "i love you". i want a boy who i can have philosophical discussions with. he's never taken a philo course and refuses to get into them with me. i used to think that we had the same values but i think it's just that i have values to which he doesn't object. sorry for blabing this to you all. needed to get it out and since none of you know me i feel safe. thanks to anyone who read all this. hugs and kisses, di "i respect those who have faith even though they are ignorant" -hemingway +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dunca_chap at xxx.com Tue Feb 15 23:24:20 2000 From: dunca_chap at xxx.com (Adam Chapman) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 23:24:20 GMT Subject: Sinister: re. Well, i suppose u may guess... Message-ID: <20000215232420.54804.qmail@hotmail.com> Right. Here, for what its worth is my view on the whole gay disscussion. Now, this probably isn't terribly well thought through, and the execution will doubtless leave something to be desired, but thats just my way, and you'll just have to put up with it. In short i'm in general agreement with Alisa et al, so i'll spare you all my going over that ground again - it would only bore you all, and certainly, it would irritate me. However, the history of the catholic church, as with the history of all supposed *moral* authorities [and in this, i include any religion you care to name, and quite possibly the entire human race], contain hypocracy in large measure. This should really go without saying, and i for one am not, and would not claim to be immune. As the Sikhs have it, no one can claim a monopoly on truth, and frankly, what people get up to between themselves is no real business of mine, and as such i feel i have no right to prescribe, still less to condemn the actions of others if no *harm* is caused by these actions. To base any such condemnation upon the Bible is still less acceptable, given that on the basis of that document, 'God'* is at best indecisive, and at worst, well, see the history of the Crusades... *'God', in the context of this document is a strange presence, given that the worlds major religions offer so much overlap i.e. Juruselem, the River Ganges etc, so what its absolute view on homosexuality may or may not be is essentially anyones guess, to which i believe an answer is unlikely to be forthcoming, so you may as well accept both the existence and practice of it, while condemning such abuse as occurs. My point i suppose is this; what the hell gives US the right to judge? Yes, bigotry is a pain, but intolerance should not be met with intolerance. Please remember this while writing me off as a tired, hand-wringing, wet liberal. Thankyou and goodnight, delete at will. Adam ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trollopinpaisley at xxx.com Tue Feb 15 23:21:45 2000 From: trollopinpaisley at xxx.com (Georgine Skeene) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 15:21:45 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Silver medal in fisting, from the Depression Olympics Message-ID: <500299A63E3E3D1178D000807CF9C8EF@trollopinpaisley.fcmail.com> Chris said: **also, just the simple physiological structure of man and woman is such that they are desinged to have sex with one another. Apparently some grown men have had to walk around with nappies due to damage caused to their arse muscles. our re teacher told us that. he also told us how lesbian sex 'happens'. That whole fisting malarkey was news to me. ************ Is he a lesbian? or a gay man? is that how he knew so much? sex doesn't 'happen' the same way for everyone. and being gay isn't just about sex. Gasp! horror! my straight heterosexual friend told me she once got drunk on a 12-pack and had sex with her boyfriend using a foot long vibrator!! oh my GOD those heteros are sick!!! is THAT what you lot do in bed?? I once saw a tv show about a straight man, who liked to have sex with little boys!! that proves it, all straight men are pedophiles. God said it, i believe it, that's it. and also said:(on gay families) **should be promoted as a replacement for a hetrosexual family environment, as it CANNOT BE EQUAL - there are two 'fathers' or 'mothers'. ******** Equal but different. such models are not definable as a concept as the variations in HUMAN PERSONALITY make all bets moot and useless. i would hope that school is used not to 'promote" a certain way of life. the fact is there are families that are non traditional. not all of them involve gay couples, either. and i would rather fucking be raised by 2 gay men or by a single mom or by a gramma or cousin who loved me, than the messed up hetero family i had. (not that i regret my past, but if i had my choice as a child, or for a child, i think any positive modeling of love is better than an alcoholic hotbed of misery, perversion and denigration) (which CAN happen in a man/woman household!! ask ANYONE that i have ever met!!) Using this theory, are we gonna say that all the kids raised by only their mom or only their dad have turned out sick useless members of society? All of this is just sad stereotypes. people are not happy about change, and they're bucking it. cos they cant' fuckin face up to the fact that all our so=called "values" are based on a lot of victorian fascist fundamentalist crap that no one even remembers, and that it's brought us to where we are today-=- gay people and murders and *all*!! that's how we got here!!! i'm sorry, but jeezus. i'm sick of going over this. it has nothing to do with religion, either. it's called reality, deal with it. and good job Stu sticking up for all the homersexurals. maybe one day we can all be loved for who we are, and not how often we engage in fisting. (GIMME a break!!!) (ever heard of LOVE? oh wait, gay ppl are too perverted to knwo what love is. no, Stu D's okay yall!! But i'm not gonna get bent out of shape. He's moving on with his life. it's not some great tragedy. like someone else said looper seems to suit him better than the ill-advised excursions that pepper b/s recordings. it's a differnet sort of goodness, like nick drake and joy division. well i must admit that b/s is better, but that's my opinion. Ain't nothing wrong with being cute, neither. ain't a damn thing. to each their own. as for me i'll take the tiger ears thank you very much. I like boy done wrong again. i didn't at first, but hearing it live changed my mind a bit more. i think stuart seems to feel it very intensely, the way he sings it. and the more i hear it, the more sense it makes to me, to my own life. i relate to it, i feel the same way, and i appreciate that song more and more for its simplicity and understated melody. and junglist breakbeat philosophy, brand new yr retro, all of that ****. I tried really hard today not to be bitchy.(and alas, failed) i'm feelign very antisocial and anxiety ridden and quick to anger, so if i offended anyone somewhere in there i apologize. oh well, here goes nothing. yesterday was Vagina Day, and i cared nothing. i slept all day. iw as tired. and i didn't even care that i dont' have a valentine, know why? cos no one of them was good enough to deserve my love, and they're not getting none of it. none of them is worth what i'm giving. i'm accepting myself as i really am, i'm feeling love for my successes...SHOUT OUT to tha mad playa hata Christa C-DAWG Chaffinch toiling away at the office --welcome back to sinister, BEE-otch. and thank you for showing me respect. i keep having dreams about janeane garofalo, LJ http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange to the pure, all things are pure--- http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange/buxoms.html ***The Buxoms: Svengali-free since 1998!!*** ______________________________________________________ Sent by FortuneCity Mail at http://www.fortunecity.com Join now and receive 20Mb of free web space and E-mail +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Wed Feb 16 00:41:40 2000 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 00:41:40 BST Subject: Sinister: if you say you love me madly, i'll glady be there Message-ID: <9938F466D7@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> evenin' hipkatz once again refraining from posting to you krazee kidz has brought me good luck in the real world. if you're sitting comfortably, i shall explain; i was all set to launch a tirade against valentine's day,it being a corporate sham, hugely depressing etc etc. when lo!! i received two real life cards, admittedly one was from my flatmate who sent a card to all the girls in the flat, and the other was from a bloke i'm trying to tactfully get rid of, but still - it was heartening. and as if to make my life more exciting someone has emailed me one and and and, i don't know who its from. now, i suspect that it might be from one of you little darlings because this is one of the few places i use this email address. see the detective work!!! if it is one of you guys, please own up, or i'll start accusing you at random and that could prove embarassing for people who are already attached. the cunning fucker (what an image!) used a web based account and then deleted it so i couldn't trace him (or her). as for the rest of the world, my take on the stuee dee thang, is that we can't rilly comment until b+s emerge without him. i never really liked looper, except impossible things #2 anyway and somehow i always find myself skipping past a spaceboy dream. as for his presence, the rest of them will just have to start to smoking crack. section 28 - as hopefully should go without saying, i'm in general agreement with generally everyone, but having just read loads of posts on the subject, it seems that the whole thing has become somewhat of a tirade against babychris. give the poor boy a chance. without patronising (hopefully) he hasn't had much time to break away from his catholic teaching and learn about that sort of thing for himself, so i really don't think personal attacks are appropriate. and stagecoach charge twice as much to get to uni from my house as all the other companies - greedy fuckers - so i wouldn't use their pish poor bus service anyway. think i've covered everything there, except to wonder why, at 1:30 this morning did i suddenly realise that i wanted to get back together with my ex-boyfriend (ex for nearly a year)? i think it could be because we've remained friends, and i don't like his current girlfriend. she keeps pretending to like me, despite the fact that we're clearly uncomfortable in each other's presence and she keeps running to him telling tales of how i've been weird to her. maybe i am just weird with people. *sigh* no, i'm not going off on the depression thing, i'm just feeling sorry for myself for no good reason. business as usual then. oh, and i did have a good birthday, thanks to everyone who sent their wishes. stay beautiful, love and jaffa cakes, fiona "if we turn turn turn turn turn turn, we might learn learn learn learn" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.borgia at xxx.ca Wed Feb 16 03:37:21 2000 From: alexander.borgia at xxx.ca (Alexander Borgia) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 22:37:21 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Christian's and Gays....now where did those lions go? Message-ID: <38AA1B70.76A23A7E@sympatico.ca> Happy Valentine's.....sorry I am a day late but something came up yesterday. What follows is a really long diatribe upon the subject of Christianity and Homosexuality. I doubt if you will find anything offensive in it, but you may find it exceptionally boring. I had really hoped that this subject would go by without me feeling the need to comment, but ah hell, maybe I can do some good. I guess I should qualify myself first though. I speak entirely without authority and this is my opinion. Feel free to accept or refuse it, but I do not wish to argue it. I really want to go back to writing dirty stories involving stuffed bears and other stuff that doesn't make sense. A little bio so you know what direction I am coming from, I should also note that I share the name of the Pope who was there when Columbus arrived in the New World. He was also the only Pope to balance the Vatican's books and was involved in sexual scandal his entire wife. I do not think I will ever best him because is claimed to have had relations with 3 generations of women. I guess that makes me only prince of the cheap internet sluts.....my crowns keep falling away. I am a heterosexual Roman Catholic that was raised in Montreal and attended both Catholic and Public schools until one day I decided to stop going at around grade 10. I took one university credit course and that was called "Man's Religions" at the University of Western Ontario, King's College. (I passed) I was tested by the Governement of Canada for educational equivalency and as far as they are concerned I am a university graduate . They also consider me as meeting a journalism degree. Although my education cost me only 500 dollars and a text book, I have been reading since I can remember and considerable amounts of history and religion. My particular interest has always been about pre-Roman Celts in north western France which is where my blood comes from, however, for the last two years I have been devoting all my reading to the Second World War and the Canadian involvement. (Normandy was my family going home after 300 years) I am deeply religious in the forms of Roman Catholicism as has my family been before me. My mother is Anglican, but I was raised Catholic. At one time I seriously considered becoming a priest, but I did not feel it was my calling. My ex-wife (The Major's mom) is also RC and she had a brother become a fanatical monk. For those in Ontario and Michigan, these were the 3rd Order Franciscans kicked out of Lucan by the Bishop of London and ended up in Michigan. My ex-brother-in-law was kicked out of these robe and sandal wearing, cabbage eating, midget owning, underwear sharing, freaks because even he was to nuts for them. I only bring this up because I was brought up around priests who would tell a pregnant couple to live together before marrying because of their individual circumstances and my ex was brought up by the extreme Polish version. I live in a community that is very Italian and Polish, so I have been exposed to quite a bit of Catholism in my life. I have been studying the similarities between Christianity and Celtic religion as my primary interest. This has made me look at the influences of Celtism upon Christianity. It would be impossible to do this without looking at all the other religions at that time. Honey says Leviticus....18:22 to be exact. Nice book, at the time it was written it was a fantastic book because it was perfectly necessary. What we see is a written record of an oral tradition that was a few thousand years old. So that must be kept in mind. Creationism versus Evolution. Guess what, both are right. The question is more about whether you believe in God, in any form, or not. The book of Genesis did happen exactly as described. Here is the explaination. God created heaven and earth. Big Bang. The earth was without form and void. It did not start out wrong. Darkness was on the face....at first the atmosphere did not allow light onto the surface of the earth. Night and day? who can say when the earth started rotating? The moon doesn't so it is possible that an asteroid strike started us turning. Firmament and waters did actually come next. because that was the forming of the atmosphere, then came the oceans and continent called Pangea (Bill Nye the Science Guy....Bill! Bill!) Vegetation did come next. Animals came next, then came humans. And now we are on the seventh day. There is no use in arguing the semantics because basically it is accurate and since what we are reading is based upon and an oral tradition that was written a few thousand years ago, I think we should be fucking amazed at how much they got it right. Remember, this comes from desert nomads who had decided to take up shop in Israel. Archaeology has pretty much proven considerable amounts of the Old Testament as having occured. If we can't get an accurate and unbiased account of history from 100 years ago, what makes you think that people who were really bright, just good at surving, would be able to get this done better. They explained the things the best that they can and you have to accept that. We are talking about people who had the brains of ten-year olds today. Leviticus essentially is the framework of the religion at the time. It brought out all the same things that we do now with our laws and it was basically the rules that were necessary for the survival of the time. We have been living in societies for 10,000 years and we haven't figured out how to do it peacefully, so again why expect them to. The dietary laws were just as sensible as our own which tell us to avoid giving ourselves botchelism and salmonella. Their superstitions were no less silly than ours tossing salt over our shoulder. When you are a tribe of people wandering across a desert your life expectnecy is not very long. Procreation is essential to the tribe's survival. Think of it this way: You are in Egypt. You live in tents, there is no water to wash, you have no toilet paper, you have no razor, you have a foreskin, you have no tampons nor pads. This is not exactly the easiest environment for creating life. The Judaic sex laws grew from observation and not too much knowledge beyond the most basic on the concepts of life. People engaged in anal sex risked considerable infection and all kinds of complications. Oral sex? Get real. After settlement in Israel when there was water and life was much cleaner, things changed in a sense because they were exposed to other cultures. Although living in cities now, the laws stayed the same. Much of it based upon old taboos. So if a Christian is going to look at the law of Leviticus, first of all, look at the Commandments. More important was it to live peacefully in society than anything else. The rest of the laws are supplemental and are guides for living at that time. If a Christian invokes on law then they must invoke them all. That includes dietary law and worship. When Christ came around, the world was a very different place from at the time of the camp-out. The Jews were writing the Talmud and got so hung up on the most minute detail, writing reams and reams of scrolls, that the message of Christ was that they were missing the Spirit of the Law. Christ was outpsoken on quite a few things and in particular relationships. He pretty much talked about tolerance and love. Oddly, he says nothing about homosexuality. I guess it wasn't a big enough deal to him. The Greeks were not unknown for that kind of stuff and Christ spoke Greek so. Much of Roman Catholicism comes from the Pauline writings, though. Well, Saint Paul never actually met Christ beyond the apparition on the road to convert him. In fact, Saint Paul was on his way to "hit" Jesus. Saint Paul had a hate on for women after his wife ditched him for a Roman stud. So much of the RC position on relationships comes from a bunch of misinterpeted rantings of a frustrated guy. But then, half the books attributed to the tent maker weren't written by the same author. The best place to look for guidance on the subject is the Gospel of Saint John. That is pretty much the only Gospel that is written by the person who actually witnessed the events as they took place. There is a strong possibility that this was written by Lazarus, which would make sense. The impression given when reading this story is that homosexuality probably existed but nobody was overly concerned about it. However you do not seem to get a glimpse of how it was factored into the society. Depending on the period in time, the Romans more or less tolerated it and it didn't really matter. One of the things that Christ brought to the Jews, was basically the direct line to God. The Jews at the time were in mortal fear of God and there was no dialogue, just ritual. Christ brought love and dialogue to Judaism and that pretty much formed the basis of Christianity. A few Churches emerged in the and they all assumed some influences from local religions. The essentially emrged as the Roman Catholic Church, the Greek Orthodox and Church of England. All have differences in interpretation, but we won't get into that. From these sprang our current day Revelationists who are desperately awaiting the final days. If they were to read what Christ said on the subject they would see that they should get on with their lives as per intructions. Unfortunately they are control freaks with very closed minds and very large inflammatory mouths which the media loves to broadcast. The Roman Catholic Church has been all over the place and it all comes down to a one guy who had lead a life of debauchery coming out and saying sex was bad. Things were back and forth ever since, but that shadow doesn't help. Priests cannot marry because their possessions would go to their wives and family upon their death instead of the Church. A thousand years ago the clergy was a very lucrative business. What Christ taught us when he sought to make changes was that our relationship with God must be on the terms that we set with God as individuals. The commandments will never change, but the other laws must be fluid to meet the needs of our evolving society, the idea is the spirit, not the mechanical. Just as eating pork will not be a serious threat to us, neither now will anal sex, providing the proper care is taken. Homosexuals must make their own terms with God and work things out for themselves. Whether a person is born gay, or becomes gay is incidental because they are gay and that will not change. God made the animal kingdom have gays, considerably more than people think. Thus the discussion as to the naturalness of it is moot. Sex was the gift that God gave to humans, intelligence was the curse. But Jesus preached love and one message me made abundantly clear: worry about your behaviour in the eyes of God and keep your nose out of other peoples. Every Christian has a personal relationship with God, who is anyone else to go meddling in that? Delivering the message is not the same as meddling. This is where the confusion happens because most people don't look at the whole thing. Look for the answers with an open mind and you will find the Truth. If you look for the answers without knowing the questions, or having already decided then it will escape you. If you have read this far you amaze me. Alexander +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Wed Feb 16 06:59:51 2000 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 22:59:51 PST Subject: Sinister: chill out! Message-ID: <20000216065951.71617.qmail@hotmail.com> I myself hate short posts. They are annoying to read. But I'll make an exeption here, and write one myself. My view on the gaythingy: CHILL THE FUCK OUT YOU FREAKS! Zeesus, you guys give me a headache! "NAHA! Baby Chris said something baaad, I don't agree with him, did you hear did you hear what he said? Well I'll bash his head in here on the Sinister-list! Serves him right!" Well buhuu to you. Even though I might not agree with BCCrystalballs, I'm not slaughtering him HERE. Can't you send him some personal mail instead? If someone says something that I don't like, I'm sure as hell NOT going to kick his/her ass in public, I'm sending it straight to him/her. Telling the whole list you don't like what he/she thinks is a bit like pulling someones trousers down in front of the class. And this time you lot all laugh so hard just because BCCrystalballs said something you don't agree on, therefore making him the fat kid nobody likes (sort of, that is, I'm sure we all love him). Chill. Just chill. @--->--- A rose, love and other stuff that makes you feel funny in your tummy, Jake le PetitE ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com Wed Feb 16 10:20:40 2000 From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 02:20:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: I never wanted to start a fight. so please read this - I'll set some things straight Message-ID: <20000216102040.27491.qmail@web1403.mail.yahoo.com> 1) Did you all read the bit at the end of my mail ? the bit that said it wasn't meant to offend anyone? I was just 'trying' to put forward the other side of the story, as it seems that so often only one viewpoint is put forward in the media. 2) Why do people assume that I am simply repeating stuff, as with the alphabet? Don't be so fucking anal. I DO have a mind of my own. I when I was a bit younger, I went throught all kinds of shit, and was beaten up daily, stuck in hospital ect.. Why? I have no fucking clue. They just did it to me. But I do know that I feel some kind of empathy with people who are gay, in as much as I know what it is like to be picked on unfairly, and suffer for somehow being different. I was lonely, and I spent a lot of time tghinking about my religion and life, and got to the root of what I believe., and how a lot of catholics do just repeat what they are told. My parents never forced views on me. I am NOT BIGOTED. You don't know how much some of the stuff people have said hurts me. some of the stuff people on the list have said. Hell, I even get called gay at school, just 'cause I don't fight, and 'cause I don't have a girlfriend. And people saying that i should do some research? fuck you. I know what goes on. I go to a catholic (but unofficially mixed religion and race) school in the southside of glasgow, in a working class area, and I have more experience in what those people say than you. And you say my arguments are shit? Well fine, if that's what you think, but holes can be picked in any argument, and It was one opf those mails where you just right what comes into your head there and then, and don';t think about how people will insult you for doing so. I could answer all of your jibes,and counter arguments, and I' will do so if you mail me privately. But If I don that, then you'll hust do it back, and It'll go on forever, because we all (I hope) have a strong belief in what we think. BUt just as I don't agree with what you believe, I respect your right to have an opinion (as long as it has justification). And that is one thing that I think is intrinsic in a christian way of life (not just being a christian, but living life that way) - respecting others opinions and beiliefs, and recognising that they are no less a person for disagreeing with you. I think that some people on this list have an attitude along the lines of "I know I'm right, so if you disagree then fuck you." and that is not a good attitude to have. I also tghink that it is cowardly of these people to pick on me publically just 'cause I don't agree with them. They should accept that I believe what I believe, and leave me alone. oh, and my teacher 'knows so much' about lesbian sex because a gay rights group mailed an eduational/information booklet to our school. so blame them. I actually think that it should be up to the parent whether or not their child should have sex education. And I don't think that a one parent family is any less of a family unit. and in the case of a gay male couple having a child, when the sperm from one of them is used, it is their child.,but not the other's. that could cause problems. And the whole thing about the paoedphile priests - just cause they are evil, doesn't mean that you can tag the entire church with the same stick. and besides (you'll all think this is soooo cliched) the church is the people who attend it and have their faith. the priests are messngers of this faith. the church is what the people make it. My thoughts are getting mixed up now. Becauser I have so much to say, and not enough time. biology test becons. I thought after the barrage of shit I recieved, I should leave the list. but hell. why should I? because some peole are narked at the fact that I don't share thier beliefs? no. I've taken enough 'bullying' in my life, and I can suree as hell take this. Chris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peter.ramsdale at xxx.com Wed Feb 16 10:55:36 2000 From: peter.ramsdale at xxx.com (Pete Ramsdale) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 10:55:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: This shirt makes you look pretty ugly...... Message-ID: <38AA8228.398DF3EF@wdr.com> I'm lying, of course. It's rather natty really. No, that's just another in a long line of lyrics I've misheard. Anyway...... Mornin'! And it bloody well is as well. Notice I left the 'Good' out. That'll be something to do with the beer I got through last night. Dear Points of View, why oh why oh why are all pub quizzes midweek? Nevermind. So StuD has gone, then?? Startlingly quick on the uptake, me. This sends various worries fleeting across what nominally passes for my brain, you know. The main one being a feeling that this could be the beginning of the end, although it's made a lot less likely because he didn't leave after any sort of falling-out. Which is good, at least. I, for one, though, am a bit disappointed that there will be no more songs like A Century of Elvis and A Space Boy Dream. Pillory me all you want, but I like 'em. Probably comes from listening to too much Mogwai, Prolapse, Arab Strap, and various other bands who occasionally like to witter on a bit over a nice tune. Nothing wrong with it, if you ask me. It will, as Fiona said, be quite interesting to hear their fist batch of stuff written and performed without him. At least it will show us whether Belle and Sebastian is just Stuart Murdoch, or a sum of collective parts. I'd prefer to think of them as the latter, I guess - although I realise that the focal point and defining character of any band is their singer (especially if he/she writes most of the songs), but it would be nice to think that the other members provide their fair share. On the other hand, of course, it wouldn't, since that would mean that B&S are now a little worse than they were. Oh, I don't know. You decide. And then mail me with the conclusion you come to, cause I'm buggered if I can reach one. Other business: We got a post from Archel! Smashin' super grate. Here's what you would have won if you hadn't have been so crap. I thought she was gone forever, you know. But no! Stuff like that makes my day. Well, something has to. Also in that category (making my days) is the return of LJ. Bit like the return of the Mac, really, only with better music and more dyke skeelz. And less chance of being jailed. Probably. Starry said: > arsemusclesdamagenappies which, although I didn't find quite as good in it's original format, did indeed make me shit myself laughing. Too much damage to my arse muscles, I suppose. And then Alex: > botchelism which, if anyone remembers, or remotely cares, reminded me very much of the trouble I had with 'sarchasm' - namely thinking it was a spelling mistake when it wasn't. (See the archives. If they ever get fixed.....;-) ). So, I had a look in websters, and lo and behold, it happened again: "botchelism (n.) - a failed attempt to poison yourself with gone-off food." Well, bugger me, I thought. Until, that is, I remembered it would cause more damage to my arse. And you'll all be glad to know that that's it. Stay cool, won't you. lol p xx. -- -----------------------------*||*-------------------------------- "You take the blue pill, and the story ends. You wake in your bed, and you believe what you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes......." Pete Ramsdale - Unix Systems Administration, Warburg Dillon Read Phone: 0171 568 3836 -----------------------------*||*-------------------------------- This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordiet at xxx.com Wed Feb 16 11:32:02 2000 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: 16 Feb 2000 03:32:02 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Looking for Tom Paulin.... Message-ID: <20000216113202.1326.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Feb 16 11:49:32 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 12:49:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Jenny Lives with Stuart and Richard (in a Church) Message-ID: <01bf7873$e39f3fe0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Chris's teacher said: Apparently some grown men have had to walk around with nappies due to damage caused to their arse muscles. I thought it was illegal to promote homosexuality. Do you have any idea what kind of price these men command down on the so-called meat rack? Just ask all our London listees, espeicially the ones who moved there from somewhere else, drawn by the tales of nappy-wearing men with arse muscle damage. Yesterday I tried to visit Bob the Builder's website to see if he was promoting homosexuality or fisting, but I couldn't get past the first page. I was hoping for a bit of claymation arse cleavage. Mr Rusty's always keen to check out the competition. It was his fault I made that reference to "upstairs" the other day. Mr Rusty told me that no one pulls birds with big jugs by beating about the bush, you have to grab the bull by the horns. And like a damned fool, I believed him. I can only apologise and promise never to refer to massive tits again. Thanks to Ailsa for explaining the Stagecoach affair. I must admit I preferred it when I thought it was just a random bus-related rant from the on-form and off-trolley Murdoch. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Wed Feb 16 12:54:29 2000 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 04:54:29 -0800 Subject: Sinister: there's no place like homo Message-ID: hello folks, when i was about ten years old there was this school production of the wizard of oz. i auditioned for the part of "the wizard" but my acting skills so impressed the powers that be that i landed the role of assistant stage manager. basically this meant that i was in charge of props. sadly i failed to grasp what this entailed, and instead of giving high fives to dorothy and the tin man at crucial moments in the plot, i looked after the scarecrows hat whilst the scarecrow was off stage. anyway, thanks to joss for offering me props over my pigeon saving adventures. for those of you still seeking magnetic fields recommendations i should add that once in the house the pigeon made straight for a pile of cds in the corner of the living room. it perched on one of the 69 love songs cds (not sure which), but crapped on the cd holiday. i hasten to add that the pigeons opinions do not necessarily reflect my own. ailsa said: >i hope we are all boycotting stagecoach buses by the way. unfortunately stagecoach also own south west trains, so every day when i get on the train i am indirectly supporting the "keep the clause" twats. sadly i cannot justify buying a car just to avoid using south west trains. perhaps some of you would like to join me in lodging complaints with sw trains, the rail users consultative committee, and the railways regulator. i will be complaining about their stance on clause 28, and also if the train is two minutes late, if the advertised buffet car is not open, if the ticket inspector looks at me funny, and if i break a nail opening a door (i hate it when that happens). bye, kevan you can lodge complaints with south west trains here: http://www.swtrains.co.uk/talk/index.asp with the rail users consultancy committee by writing here: Secretary RUCC for Southern England Centric House 390 Strand London WC2R 0LT and with the office of the rail regulator by emailing here: psg.orr at gtnet.gov.uk *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.cullen at xxx.com Wed Feb 16 13:34:02 2000 From: p.cullen at xxx.com (Paula Cullen) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:34:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: wearing padded bras, suppin' beer through straws Message-ID: <01BF7882.7CF3D760.p.cullen@music-control.com> having trouble keeping up with the ultra-busy sinister list lately? find the prospect of having to trawl through approximately 17 kerzillion mails every time you turn on your computer slightly daunting? well, fear no more. i think i have quite accurately summed up the past weeks topics in one "blinkandyou'llmissit!" sentence: ********************************************************************* "if you dont all vote for me on the list crush, you are all gay, manic depressive assholes." ********************************************************************* all those wishing to subscribe to the weekly sini-booze digest please send your name, address and full bank details to p.cullen at music-control.com with the words " i am a silly twat" in the body of the message. as always, loads of offence, p x. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rdossinger at xxx.net Wed Feb 16 14:28:21 2000 From: rdossinger at xxx.net (Reid Dossinger) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:28:21 -0500 Subject: Sinister: ...say we've got Mother Nature wrong Message-ID: <38AAB405.7A731566@worldweb.net> Whew! You guys slay me! My uncontrollable laughter has *finally* died down and I can compose myself enough to compose a letter. So 'fess up: which one of you is "baby chris"? Peter? Erica? Honey? Lesley Jo? Lesley Jo is my guess. Her response was so restrained and took a suspiciously long time to show up. No reason to be ashamed...it was the funniest Sinister happening since "Hamish the Frog". Fisting?! Ha! Brilliant. And what was that bit in the "apology" letter (one of the best sequels *ever*, btw) about "didn't you read the bit where I said I didn't want to offend anyone"? I was laughing so hard I could barely pick myself off the floor. And then when "he" said "don't be so fucking anal"...well, that just about finished me off. Get it?! Anal?! Ha! Good ol' Pete Ramsdale had some things to say: > I, for one, though, am a bit disappointed that there will be no more > songs like A Century of Elvis and A Space Boy Dream. Pillory me all > you want, but I like 'em. Probably comes from listening to too much > Mogwai, Prolapse, Arab Strap, and various other bands who occasionally > like to witter on a bit over a nice tune. > Aha!! But there *will* be more songs like C of E...they'll just be in Looper form, they way they should be. I prefer my Stuart D in Looper form. It's just a little nicer, a little more in its own place. His decision makes all the sense in the world to me. Rather than trying to move B&S in a Looper direction, he saw what's what and moved on. But I'm stating the obvious now. > It will, as Fiona said, be quite interesting to hear their > fist batch of stuff written and performed without him. > Yeah, except we won't hear that for a while. He's still all over the new album, I'm sure. And I think that it'll be hard to tell a difference, anyway, since B&S are likely to have changed quite a bit for the new album and will probably continue to change. And even though I definitely think that all of the band members make their mark on the band, remember that Tigermilk and Dog On Wheels had plenty of different band members than are on the new albums (DOW being mostly just the two Stuarts, right?). Anyway, point being that even though we all know that Stuart D did plenty, I think we'll be hard pressed to spot where his departure has changed them. But I really just wanted to write and say that you people crack me the fuck UP! Nappies for arse-muscle damaged gay men? Don't even *try* to top that one. ~Reid ps. If you are a really, and I mean REALLY big Magnetic Fields fan, Stephin Merrit was on NPR on Monday night in a painfully slow and awkward interview which you can hear by going to http://whyy.org/freshair/fara.html and pulling up the program for February 14. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Wed Feb 16 15:31:25 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 07:31:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: depression, eh? Message-ID: <20000216153125.22805.qmail@web606.mail.yahoo.com> I suppose you saw something in there which had a great big snotty finger directed at you in particular? Actually, I was aiming my point at anyone who felt that to say somone was depressed merely for being interesting. (that probably doesn't make grammatical sense, but I don't care right now) And yes, I reckon everyone goes through a patch of depression, regardless of the strength of that feeling. And I stick by that statement, cos I know we all have different levels, and its difficult to compare really, as what effects me might not bug you, whereas what upsets you might just be water off a ducks back for me. Its about what effects us and at what level, personally. This is the point I'm making, to anyone it might concern. And as for section 28. It sucks. It should have never been made in the first place. Its a stupid and irrelevant law and its sad that anyone should worry about what would happen if it was abolished. What are they scared of? that half the teenage population will turn homosexual? And quite frankly, I reckon if they have a law like that, they should have one preventing the promotion of hetrosexual activity. How does one promote homosexual activity anyway? what do they do, say "go gay, its great!" and then give out lots of freebies to encourage it? And where does bisexuality come into this? I dunno. What an odd law. What an odd country to have such an odd law. Cherrypips, darlings! Idleberry ===== visit the idle site:http://www.geocities.com/idleberry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rxchamp at xxx.com Wed Feb 16 16:03:35 2000 From: rxchamp at xxx.com (Matt Evanosky) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:03:35 -0500 Subject: Sinister: the unbearableness of being light Message-ID: <001301bf7897$6c1d0820$a5e5163f@oemcomputer> with the grace of a panther, larry the lurker arches his back and throws back his head, with the force of a no-brake bullet train downhill on ice, lets loose with a yawn that has been stifled for far too long...... zzzzzz zzzzzzz zzzzzzzz yawningly yrs, littletroubleboy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Kevin.Allsworth at xxx.com Wed Feb 16 16:07:18 2000 From: Kevin.Allsworth at xxx.com (Kevin Allsworth) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:07:18 -0000 Subject: Sinister: with all this talk of Looperman Leaving B&S.... Message-ID: <87B28AE61435D311BE2200902772C2BC23EF74@merlin.travelstore.com> Good luck to him, can wait for the next looper album, the last one was great... But there is something I need to know ! Does anyone know how "wee" karn actually is? cheers Kev.... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Wed Feb 16 16:26:11 2000 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:26:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: (A lazy little fucker like me) making one of my friends feel so guilty about her cynisism. Spelt wrongly. Message-ID: <38AACFA2.3906D701@cs.strath.ac.uk> This whole Section 28 thingy is depressing me. But that doesn't mean I'm going to become profound, unfortunately. However since every argument from the catholic church is based on God's existence, an idea which I find patently absurd, there's no point in me saying anything. Apart from that whatever people do in their own bedrooms is NONE OF MY BLOODY BUSINESS. They could be playing with their model train sets for all I care. Now THAT could make for interesting sex. Train goes in the tunnel.....sorry. Choo-choo! Onto to happier things. Like Vic GODard, who was quite literally genius on a stick when I saw him at the weekend. Which made up for the fact that I had to go by myself, since certain soapboxers thought it wasn't worth 5 quid. No Stool Pidgeon, but we can't have everything we want, can we children? Else we'll go blind, I think. Or is that just wanking? Even The Nectarine No 9 sounded pretty good, after I'd almost dismissed them as boring art-wank. Which they are a bit, still. But not as much. Still, not quite as good as last year's "Kool Katz & Krazee Cittens" festival in Glasgow, when I saw Home Economics support The Apprentice Badgers. Pure Class. If anyone hasn't got The 'Badgers second album, 'Bitter Suites and Salty Settees', go out and get it now. It's on Ekoja records and it's fab. Ian: > so...down to business....alasdair, get your kecks down and bend over! Lovely Ian, you know that if I fancied boys you'd be the first on my list, but like Popeye before me, I yam what I yam. You'll just have to make do with a kiss the next time I see you. Please shave though, I don't like stubble. Martin and Arantxa moaned about their best years being behind them. Blimey, given how gorgeous they are now, their younger selves must have stopped traffic! Which is something I often do, but only if there's money in the middle of the road. Which there is, if the Barenaked Ladies are anything to go by. Also, I think Owen is just making this stuff up now to keep his reputation going. The boy must be red raw! "He wants to remember things exactly as he left them on that Sunday night." I was listening to the B&S Bowlie set again last night, something I haven't done for ages. I'd advise anyone who was there and has a copy of it to give it another listen and let them memories come a flood flood flooding back. I'm a little sad that we may never hear Winter Wooskie again, cos I really love that song. Even Paper Boat sounded quite good in context ("I think we're gonna see the sun/ I think we're gonna have some fun"). And how come I have managed to miss until now StuM shouting "FUCKING HIT ME!" near the end of LLPJ? Or is that not what he says at all? I want to be back there now, cos I'm bored. But hey ho, only 7 weeks until the next one. Genevieve: > I prefer stubble to > tigers-ears. I prefer Tiger-ears, especially when pretty girls are wearing them. And when I'm wearing them. As I've already said, stubble is bad. I never use Stage-Coach buses, only First Bus ones. Aren't I grate? Don't answer that. Sorry this has been a bit shit, I'm having to rush off. There's probably loads of hilarious errors which you can laugh at as I don't have time to check. Bye. Alasdair xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lofemo at xxx.com Wed Feb 16 17:00:33 2000 From: lofemo at xxx.com (kevin-m) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:00:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: with all this talk of Looperman Leaving B&S.... Message-ID: <20000216170033.1099.qmail@web1001.mail.yahoo.com> Kevin Allsworth wrote: > But there is something I need to know ! > Does anyone know how "wee" karn actually is? wee karn is not actually all that wee as we can see from these pictures...http://lofemo.tripod.com/looper.htm although she may be standing on telephone books or small children hunched over on their hands and knees. who knows. k. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Wed Feb 16 17:11:33 2000 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 17:11:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: (A lazy little fucker like me) making one of my friends feel so guilty about her cynisism. Spelt wrongly. Message-ID: <80256887.005EB138.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> >And how come I have managed to miss until now StuM shouting >"FUCKING HIT ME!" near the end of LLPJ? Or is that not what he says at >all? I want to be back there now, cos I'm bored. But hey ho, only 7 >weeks until the next one. Ali, Much as I'd like to believe that Stuartmmm got so excited by the occasion that he wanted the pain with the pleasure, I think he's actually saying 'FUCKING HIT IT, BEANS!' as in Chris 'Beanz' Geddes, who is giving the his organ a damn good thrashing at the time. Someone asked how wee karn was and I thought they had heard she was ill or something, but then I decided they were interested in her height. I heard she was two inches tall in shoes but I might be wrong. Sometimes I think it would be nice if all the references to 'homosexuality' in Section 28 were replaced by 'heterosexuality' and then we'd have world peace. Mind you. it is spooky how the advent of disposable nappies ties so well with the liberalisation of the laws on homosexuality. I now have no idea who idleberry is cross with. Nick xx On my turntable: Boy George's 'No Clause 28'. Ok, it's not. I can't even remember how it went. Can anyone enlighten me? Peter Purves? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From smiley.rebelmonkey at xxx.net Tue Feb 15 16:29:35 2000 From: smiley.rebelmonkey at xxx.net (Mr Smiley) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 16:29:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: pain and pleasure mixed together proves that we're alive Message-ID: <000001bf77e0$86c68500$7f56ac3e@richardstesco.net> Bonjour, For this post I decided to take the interesting step of using the right e-mail account, rather than my mum's. This way I might avoid more scary messages saying I'm not allowed to post when I know I am (unless you've got fed up with me). Sorry to spoil your blissful skipping-in-the-fields-with-rabbits-naivety, but this post isn't very cheerful. This week I have mostly been thinking about death. I have come to the conclusion that there is an afterlife, even though I'm far too cynical to be religious. I have two little stories to show what brought me to this conclusion. Here they are: Story one ========== On Sunday the 13th my granddad died, which was very sad, even though it means he got to spend Valentines Day with my late grandma. This is the spooky bit. He died at 6:20pm, and my mother was in Coventry on that day. She came in, having no knowledge of the news, at 6:30pm and said "I've just seen the most incredible shooting star". Alright, this might be a coincidence, but... Story two ========== Sometime ago it was one of those glorious, hot lazy summer days. With this in mind, my friend and I decided to loaf around in his living room and watch MTV all day. Somehow, we managed to get around to talking about the songs we would like played at our funerals. My friend said that someone in his year at school had died last year, and he mentioned the three songs played at her funeral. At that very instant, MTV played each of those three songs back to back! Scary! So then, no B&S content. I know it's frowned upon to chuck in a "token B&S moment", rightly so. I did, however, buy The green fields of foreverland this week, and am immensely taken by it. I am also developing a very dangerous Isobel fixation. This isn't a token B&S moment, I'm being sincere. Also, if there are 1211 people on this list, surely there's someone on here who thinks Rialto, by Rialto, is the best album ever recorded? Au revoir Mr Smiley smiley at rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk "Hate is the only thing worth my love" I wanted to put that in before Valentine's Day, but my mail bodged up. Oh well. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ELZober at xxx.com Wed Feb 16 19:35:31 2000 From: ELZober at xxx.com (ELZober at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:35:31 EST Subject: Sinister: Kicking With The Other Foot..... Message-ID: ahhhh..... as the playground turns..... I don't post much.... mostly because i usually get flamed..... but today it seems everyone is so too roasting gay's, lesbian's, crusaders and innocent bystanders.......... is this what we've come to? people prancing around like school bullies holding out stolen lunch money for all the other kids on the playground to see..... scary thought..... anyone who knows who they are in this crazy screwed up world is someone i respect...... these day's it's hard for most people to try and decide what career to choose..... we're all busy thinking about 401k's and pension plans..... comparing the market value of our home equity loans and worrying about the interest rate on our student loans that gave us a very expensive piece of paper that's worthless...... so if, among all this, someone can find love...... find the one person they believe in their heart was the person they were meant to spend eternity with.... even if it only lasts six months or two years..... i'm envious.... because they know who they are... they know what they want and they go after it.... if you're "gay" that means you're "choosing" to face incredible diversity..... wow - that's a pretty amazing thing...... that's what love is about.... what's sad is that instead of celebrating and supporting the efforts made by those to expose the foul attempts of politicians and fat cats who want to keep a portion of our society "in the closet", we're throwing around half baked ideas and insults.... the last time i checked no one here had a direct line to God.... or Buddha.... or Allah.... or anyone else for that matter.... so who is to say that this religion is right or wrong.....? Let the proverbial "Him" be the judge..... whoever that is... whatever your beliefs, follow through with them..... if you don't like "gays", then stand up for that.... but do it on your own time.... in your own forum where your thoughts and feelings can be heard, explained and understood... if you want to change the world.... change laws that forbid people who love each other to be married simply because they are the same sex..... then do something about that.... go out and try with reasonable debate and discussion to change the world and it's views..... don't let something as beautiful as two people's love get belittled into a mud-slinging match fit for five year-olds on a playground.... it's not right.... so, that's my two cents..... as far as sex goes..... everyone gets fucked... that's a cold hard fact... women often think they're making love.... but when she rolls over thinking about what kind of wedding they'll have and what to name their kids.... he's rolled over thinking about the clutch in his car which may or may not be slipping..... i'm not all that interested in my own sex life.... or anyone else's for that matter.... "gay" or otherwise.... i don't choose partners based on how i think they'll be in the sack (perhaps i should rethink this, eh? :) ) i have a feeling that "gay" peole don't either..... anyway - if you don't agree with me.... write me.... the world is changed through healthy debate and good conversation..... i'm open to anything anyone has to say .... instead of getting caught up in all this, why not get back to fluffy stories about daily lives and music? elle +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trollopinpaisley at xxx.com Wed Feb 16 23:12:51 2000 From: trollopinpaisley at xxx.com (Georgine Skeene) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:12:51 -0800 Subject: Sinister: doyagetnervouswatchinmebleed /:P Message-ID: <3F8194921B4E3D11784200807C3DD8C1@trollopinpaisley.fcmail.com> first off, about the thing. I do apologize if anything i said offended anyone, i was in a bad mood yesterday, i'm pmsing, so then i got home and read that kind of thing, and it made me even more pissed. i didn't mean it as a personal attack on anyone. It's the same sort of thing i've heard about gays for ever, but it doesn't hurt any less. we can have sympathy for those who believe that stuff, but what about making those comments when there might be people on the list who would also be hurt by them? so i'm sorry for being pissy. at the time i read that digest, i hadn't received the later ones yet and so i didn't know i was just continuing what snowballed into looking like a huge tirade. I dont' think *most* of the ppl who responded were being cruel or personal about it, just saying that those things didnt' make any sense to them. Friends? i didn't think so. oh well. jarrkko i dont' think it's freaky. things like that feel like an attack on anyone who is queer. it's an old raw wound. and yeah i'm saying it right here. BLEH i thought alexanders' discussion was very sensible and well thought out, and very nice. incidentally this is a good and fair URL on the same vein(seriously, it's excellent): http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibl.htm Sarah, anytime, anyplace. a cup of tea. *Lesbian* tea. BOO. you ever find you're wearing a dress you don't remember putting on, it's got all dirty and you dont' knwo how you got there, you wish you could take it off but it's been sewed into your skin? where is teri the meltthesnow lovely northern girl, is she still lurking about somewhere? Begging for some Honey=flavoured discipline, LJ (the psycho, PMS-ing bitch) http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange to the pure, all things are pure--- http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange/buxoms.html ***The Buxoms: Svengali-free since 1998!!*** ______________________________________________________ Sent by FortuneCity Mail at http://www.fortunecity.com Join now and receive 20Mb of free web space and E-mail +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From porterww at xxx.edu Wed Feb 16 23:17:19 2000 From: porterww at xxx.edu (Will Porter) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 17:17:19 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: oh dear Message-ID: ... and the new Will (who, truth be told, is getting a bit rusty) weighs in. I'm certain I outweigh the lot of you, so don't make me come over there. Regarding StuD's departure: I think it is bittersweet. On the one hand, it means I'll never get to see B&S's full lineup in concert. On the other hand, I'm sure I'm not the only one who saw it coming, and more Looper is perfectly ok with me. OK Regarding the big gay discussion: First: those of you who have seen fit to flame the bejeezus out of young mr. crystalballs, you ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Remember he's young yet. Second: Young mr. crystalballs, there is a reason that everyone you know who is older than you (particularly when you are in your teens, as your previous posts have indicated) eventually manages to indicate that you are too young to understand one thing or another. I know that it always sounds like a horrible slight to you, but it's true. No matter who has beaten you up or how many times, there is just some shit that takes you until you are older than you are now to really know what you think about it. Protest as much as you like, but I guarantee you that when you are 23, you will look back at your teens and think "man, I had some extraordinarily dumb thoughts when I was in my teens." Trust me. It happens to everyone and nobody thinks it will happen to them. What remains to be seen is whether or not your opinions on the present topic are among the thoughts/beliefs you are referring to when thinking that. (At this point, I have just reread the above, and realized that it's not only terribly awkward in terms of syntax, but also that it seems to be calling young chris stupid. Neither of these is my aim at all, I just don't know how to say it better). That said, consider how you would feel if someone said it was ok with them and with god if you were heterosexual, as long as you're not a PRACTICING heterosexual. THAT said, I applaud your choice not to leave the list. The list means a lot to me, as I'm sure it does to you, and you've been a contributing member of the list for far longer than I have, and you've certainly got just as much right as anyone else to continue to be. Furthermore, I like most of your posts. NOW. What I think about the whole damned mess, and what you should know about me before wondering where in the hell I come up with this crap. This is about to get terribly dull. You really should give up now. What you should know about me: I am heterosexual. I am essentially an atheist. This in no way impedes my belief in the human soul. The mortality or immortality of said soul is outside my range of knowledge, so I don't speculate. But I am as certain that there is no such creature as god as I am of anything else (which, truth be told, is not terribly certain). The way I see the world and its wonders and terrors and terrible wonders is best summed up in the words of some anonymous guy I heard say one sentence as I was flipping through the channels on my television: "That's not a miracle, it's just complicated." As you'll find if you're still reading this crap, such sound-bytes constitute a considerable portion of the foundation of my belief system. If you have any questions about how I could possibly believe this, I'd be happy to respond to private mail. I do not believe that the only purpose of sex is procreation. Further, I do not believe that anyone else genuinely believes this. Perhaps in creatures without sufficient higher brain function to attach emotion or anything but the most basic compulsion to the act, but not in human beings, and even, I would say (given my utter lack of biological expertise, I can make sweeping statements like this) not in mammals. What I think about the whole mess: It is my belief that homosexuality (which strikes me as a poorly applied term that engenders bigotry by focusing on the sex part and not on the love part--I'd prefer homoamory, but it's not really my decision) is not only a perfectly ordinary and acceptable thing, but it is the single most important factor in inter- and intragender relations in the efforts to develop a post-patriarchal society (which have most certainly haven't finished doing, but we're still making progress). I came to this conclusion after waiting to give a paper at a symposium on gender. While I was waiting, I overheard a bit of a conversation. The woman who was speaking was named Katie, and I have a bit of a weakness for Katies, so I was paying attention to her, but I was still far enough away that I couldn't hear most of the conversation. (Incidentally, Katie was waiting to give an excellent paper on Oscar Wilde). The only bit of the conversation that I heard was as follows: Katie: ... meanwhile, the straight people are still wondering which one is the man and which one is the woman ... (referring to an outsider observing a gay relationship) Katie's friends: mad laughter My immediate reaction was to think "well, duh. I mean, we can't just tell which is which by looking at them." (yes, Katie and her friends were laughing at me, even though they didn't know it). It took me a while, mulling it over in my head to finally get it: neither of them is necessarily "the man" or "the woman". They're either both men or both women, and that is the way they want it. Given these circumstances, adhering to the broadly societally accepted norms of gender behavior (who irons, who mows the grass, who is most emotionally available, who initiates sex, etc.), there would be a lot of duplicated effort and a lot of things not getting done (to put it basely). What is created, then, in a gay relationship, is a relationship without a model, in fact a relationship that defies gender-based models because the two participants are necessarily gender-equal. The result is that the things that need to get done within that relationship fall into the hands the person who is most inclined or least disinclined to do those things--everything from ironing to initiating lovemaking. That being the case, the only hope we have to unburden ourselves from the eons of patriarchy that have been handed down to us is for straight couples to adopt the gay model (or unmodel, if you prefer) for their own relationships. In short, the widespread (universal would be preferable, but I don't want to sound too naive) acceptance of gay people as equals and as teachers is indispensable to advancing the cause of feminism and the quest for a post-patriarchal society. there, I said it will (phatlip in #sinister) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chigger88 at xxx.com Thu Feb 17 00:01:09 2000 From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Stealth Squirrel) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 00:01:09 GMT Subject: Sinister: I'm open! I'm open! Message-ID: <20000217000109.61499.qmail@hotmail.com> Now, mister miller nee disco referred to a mythical fisting site, bob the builder or somesuch. I thought I might join in the fun by directing all of your browsers to www.majorrepairjob.com They put the "action" back in action figure. I picked up a hot-off-the press copy of the Who BBC sessions and by jove it rocks. I mean it. By far the best live version of Boris the Spider that I have ever heard. It's chock full of dippity-doo who at their finest. Most are pre-1970. Not only that, but if you happen to be near a MEGA-SELLOUT Best Buy, you can party yourself up with the DOUBLE CD set of the BBC sessions. Disk two is delirious with Demos. Ah. Demos. Speaking of THE OX, I have another one for your hungry browser. http://www.whodirect.com/ They actually have some of John Entwistle's original drawings. Check out the horrifying "caricature" of Rod Stewart. There is a frightening magic marker drawing of Keith. The man cannot draw hands. Obviously. So charming. Deliciously BAD. Rachael >From: "Peter Miller" >Reply-To: "Peter Miller" >To: "B&S mailing list" >Subject: Sinister: Jenny Lives with Stuart and Richard (in a Church) >Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 12:49:32 +0100 > >Chris's teacher said: > >Apparently some grown men have had >to walk around with nappies due to damage caused to >their arse muscles. > >I thought it was illegal to promote homosexuality. Do you have any >idea what kind of price these men command down on the so-called meat >rack? Just ask all our London listees, espeicially the ones who moved >there from somewhere else, drawn by the tales of nappy-wearing men >with arse muscle damage. > >Yesterday I tried to visit Bob the Builder's website to see if he was >promoting homosexuality or fisting, but I couldn't get past the first >page. I was hoping for a bit of claymation arse cleavage. Mr Rusty's >always keen to check out the competition. It was his fault I made that >reference to "upstairs" the other day. Mr Rusty told me that no one >pulls birds with big jugs by beating about the bush, you have to grab >the bull by the horns. And like a damned fool, I believed him. I can >only apologise and promise never to refer to massive tits again. > >Thanks to Ailsa for explaining the Stagecoach affair. I must admit I >preferred it when I thought it was just a random bus-related rant from >the on-form and off-trolley Murdoch. > >Peter > > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Thu Feb 17 10:54:26 2000 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:54:26 GMT Subject: Sinister: Storm The Palace Message-ID: <20000217105426.84673.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear Everyone it is with increasing satisfaction that I see the list becoming evermore politicised. In an age when "The Kids" (copyright NME) are becoming evermore apathetic to the systems that run their lives it is refreshing to see argument and constructive criticism on topics such as homosexuality, the church and whether private beliefs impinge upon corporate images. And there's not a bearded Marxist here to spoil it all by arguing that the communist Manifesto is the answer to all our problems . HUrrah. As for Stuart D leaving - he could have been a contender. I met him once, ,he said "hello" and I mumbled into my coat. That was a touch of genius but I am probably overinfluenced by the alcohol that is rushing through my body form last night. Buckfast: the drink of kings. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Thu Feb 17 12:52:54 2000 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:52:54 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: P!O!P! AnArchY... Message-ID: <20000217125254.15289.qmail@web3001.mail.yahoo.com> Hey you beloved ones... I've received some BMX Bandits and They Go Boom! stuff I've ordered from Action Records today and just had a small piece of turkish delight so... I feel quite happy... for a change... Listen... I think it was jarkko whos first mentioned that we're now officially 1211 people in the sinister-land... and I had this weird vision these last days... I M we could form a village... I mean, 1211 people can A easily form a village... the SiNiSteR villagio!!! G YEY!!! I and there can be jobs and responsibilities (I hate N both words, believe me) for everyone... so, I kept E on thinking who will do what... I've come up with ! some ideas... just read them and tell me what you think about it... there are loads of areas yet to be covered though... so, I'll definetelly need your help to make it work... but... Let's start... reading to your posts so far... I think that... Honey our dearest... should definetelly be our SiNiStEr Village's MAjOR... Our lovely Laura Llew will run our local BookStore / Publishing House... The Vicar will be our multi-religion/cults PriESt Erica McArthur... well, I'm a bit confussed about Erica... I First thought she must most certainly run the clothes store and be our fashion designer... but then I saw her photographs, loved them... and now I'm all messed up... My beloved George Henry will run the - what else - SiNiStER BoXinG GyM Paula Cullen... Paula would you like to run our Liquor StoRe? Please, say yes!!!! Nick Dastoor... I think he has to run the local S.M.E. that stands for SiNiStER Musical Express... I think I'll dare to have Alasdair as our Sinister School TeAcHeR and my darling Sweetie would you like to run the SinistEriAn HoRse- Stud- FaRm however this is called? I definetelly want Alexander to be our magnificent SiNiStEr CheF... My dearest Richard Pushong will run the new SaRaH ReCoRds... I think we have to call it melting candy recordings, that is if Richard has no objection to that... Peter Miller.... would you like to run the local DiScO? and would you please wear a nice jacket made of small pieces of broken mirror? that'd be ace... And... my beloved Zoe... will have to run the local TV stATioN and direct all the SiNiStEr films... My God!!! SiNiStER films!!! what they would be like, I wonder... no, actually I fear to wonder... so... my pretty ones... what do you think about my ideal of P!O!P! AnARcHy?? I know I've left out a lot of you... that's all I could come up with so far... Please, please, please... let me know what do you want to be in the SinIsTer VilLage... and who knows... maybe one day.... one of us will win the lottery, buy some land somewhere in CorsiKa and form this village after all... wouldn't that be great... Remember, we need doctors, farmers, psycho-therapists (most definetelly), musicians... and loads of others... ... I'm going now... I could be dreaming...... love+a big bonebreaking hug to you all V.F. XOXO PS: I'm still wondering what I'll be in that sinister village... any suggestions...? though, I think it'll be so nice there... I'll just lie down being lazy for the rest of my life... ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Thu Feb 17 13:35:31 2000 From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:35:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ooo! Mother Goose! Message-ID: Yesterday I was going to write something but my whole email account had been mysteriously deleted. It was a bit like waking up and discovering you don't exist. I had quite a bit to say yesterday, too, and I can't remember half of it now. It's good to see a fully fledged *list debate* blowing up again, though. I was going to say something about it yesterday, but my email soul had been kidnapped by the mechanical meanies. Now, I don't agree with Section 28 ( does anyone know why it stopped being a Clause? I remember when they used to call Father Christmas "Santa Section") but I do feel pretty sorry for Chris. I agree with the bit about empathising with gay people because I've been abused for being gay, a number of times, even though I'm not. And it's difficult to stand out, whatever minority you belong to. Nick said recently about how maybe we're all a bit freaky, and it's true that I've often felt like a freak just for liking simple things, and for actually giving a shit about people. But then, it's dead hard to stand up for yourself if you're not part of the crowd, and if Chris finds sanctury in the Church, I don't see much wrong with that. It's the whole Catholic thing that's the problem, I think, they tend to take things too literally. Fundamentalism of any sort is a bad thing. I come from an Anglican background and for me, the Church is mostly about standing in a big room, drinking sherry (our vicar had a funny definition of communion wine) and singing. Christianity is supposed to be about being caring, forgiving and tolerant, and the most "Christian" people I know are all these things. Stuart M, would probably call himself a Christian and he believes in pretty good stuff. I get a little angry with all the glib apathy that's always bandied about whenever an "issue" comes up. You know, not wanting to sound like a hippy, but if we cared a bit more about each other then Section 28 wouldn't be an issue in the first place - it wouldn't ever have existed. Blimey, that was a bit serious. Now, in the manner of That's Life, but with better knees than Esther Rantzen, for something rather more inane. Does anyone think that Belle and Sebastian is a good name or a bad name for a band? I don't think I'm objective enough to know. I've always thought that Oasis is a rather nambly pambly sort of name - it conjures up pictures of palm trees and camels - so it's a strange name for Noel "Fookin 'ell" Gallagher's band. Camels are quite smelly, though. I was speaking to a chap t'other day and said something about Belle and Sebastian and he said "are they a punk band, then?" I don't know how he reached that conclusion. Maybe I said it too quickly and it sounded like Belsen, or something. It snowed in Nottingham yesterday. I'd just left the cinema and the first flakes fell from the sky. By the time I'd got home everything was white. We even had enough for a snowball fight. By the morning most of it had gone, apart from a little on the roofs of houses and cars. People will see those cars today and think "Oh, I wonder where they've come from, it must have been snowing somewhere". Bye, then Robin x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Thu Feb 17 14:32:07 2000 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 06:32:07 PST Subject: Sinister: however far away,i will always love you Message-ID: <20000217143207.78904.qmail@hotmail.com> last night i listened to lovesong about 20 times.mmm... those lyrics...that's how i feel these days...anyway. then i was reading this magazine my mom sent me from home and i was reading about places i know,places i just close my eyes and i'm there,routes i've done a billion times...and now... my everyday reality is someone else's now... i miss being in a car,with my friends and the music is loud and we just run in the highway of the big city... i know you don't give a fuck about all these and to be honest i shouldn't even be writing all these but...i had to. i wish i had a pc in my room.everynight i can't sleep i would read all the messages in sinister... now i am reading frankenstein.have to for the uni. i think i should go. ....you know,this title 'the loneliness of the middle-distance runner' is really appealing...i've been thinking about it for days... ...so i'm going to be the film director...mmm...can't i just lie down myself and do nothing? a yes,most probably this friday i am going to this club in manchester called jilly if i'm not mistaken.anyone else there? right.me go now... kisses and some more to some beloved ones... and loads of tears.z. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian at xxx.uk Wed Feb 16 20:11:31 2000 From: ian at xxx.uk (ian) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 20:11:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: the songs that set him free Message-ID: <001201bf796b$654d75a0$f32f883e@default> hello my funky monkeys... well, i was going to indulge in a bit of chris-bashing, but as it seems that the chap is already staggering around, bleeding from every orifice (better get them nappies out babe) i'll refrain. all i have to say on the subject of anal sex is don't knock it till you've tried it. and, by the way, if anybody wants to try it...... and if you aint tried it, and you're still talking about it...well, it seems that you're pontificating on a subject you know absolutely nothing about. anyway, onto twinklier things. depression. just kidding. no...the real point (and, (to quote ellen degenerate, rampant unnatural nappy-wearing lesbian) i do have one) of my mail was to pass on the following news: it seems that stu d's departure was predicted some time ago, and immortalised in song by the band; who promptly beamed said recording to mars (to where it is rumoured our sandal-wearing friend has retreated...trying to escape from the endless tabloid indifference). today, at the winter observatory in the canary islands, the following music was translated by one of those big telescopey things... what follows has been passed on by international spies. keep it under your hat. if you have one. otherwise, go buy a pack of pampers. not only can they be crafted into a variety of stylish headgear but they serve a whole kaleidoscope of purposes. and you never know when you're going to dribble.. this is what the spies heard ----------------------------------------- silence. a rustle. a moaning. a sound of someone sticking a bead up their nose. nothing for a moment, then a lone guitar is heard languidly playing. the song is an old martian melody that sounds uncannily like "hit me baby one more time" by our britney. abruptly this cuts out and the music begins. experienced music-lovers will recognise the tune as vaguely reminiscent of "leader of the pack" by the shangri-las. take one- sounds of isobel shuffling up to the microphone in a low-cut, short leather dress, her beautiful blonde bob bespiked with motorcycle grease. more sounds. as of struan and mick cooke shuffling either side, also both wearing low-cut short leather dresses. sound of someone undoing a nappy (no, sorry, i don't know where that came from...) fingers begin to click, toes to tap. a groovy mood is set.. struan: hey isobel, is that stuey d's ring you're wearing? isobel: nah, i got it out of a cracker...... sound of collective groans, drinking of coffee, and much wringing of terry towelling.. take two- sounds of isobel, struan and mick shuffling round in velvet catsuits...fingers, toes...you know the drill by now.. struan: hey, bella...is that stuey d's ring your wearing? isobel: oh...erm...yea, do you like it? music stops once more.. muttering of "no, you stupid twee bitch, uh-huh...its uh-huh..can you say uh-huh?" sound of a ginger scottish man being hit over the head with a hello kitty pencil case isobel: "uh-huh" struan: so, how'd you meet him? and our belle bursts into song... "i met him in a spud-u-li-ike he looked pretty cheesy get the picture? (yes, we see) that's when i fell for the looper at the back... i heard he was classy it seemed true to me he made shirley bassey look like debbie mcgee (made shirley bassey look like de-eb-bie mcgee) they said that he wus twee-ee but that really quite appealed to me-ee that's when i fell for the looper and his slacks.. when i saw the cut of his corduroy (roy...roy) i knew that there could be no other boy (knew that there could be no o-o-o-ther boy) oh how it twitched my pelvis when he sang "a century of elvis" that's when i fell for the looper's great lunch-pack i knew that we could fly to the moon although he couldn't quite hold a tune (tune...tune) he kind of stood around while we made that great big b&s sound but i still loved him he's so good in the sack... and then there came that day...when stuey went away... he vanished and he never said goodbye.. he left my eyelids damp...my finger's getting cramp...its hard to please yourself without a guy... i saw the passing lorry and the giant "vimto" pallet i heard a cough, the load fell off, and rolled towards the chalet(t) my heart missed a beat stu was in there would he be prepared? (nononononononono) it seems i lost him at camber sands (sands sands) he said he liked one of the other bands (lips...bands) he started a new life he buggered off to join his wife i'll never forget him the looper with the cap.. and now it seems like i'm nearly done without him, b&s are just minus one there's very little time to sa-ave.. i'm off to be a gentle wa-ave bugger sebastian i'm going to make a stack.... (looper at the back give me on-one) (looper at the back now he's go-one) (looper at the back been outsho-one) (looper at the back carry o-on) with that, the tune fades away into an eerie silence, and the theme tune of "wizadora" can be heard playing. someone is heard shouting "where's me fuckin money?" ends. -------------- so, my friends, i bring this discovery to you all, and trust you will find it illuminating. i think it says a lot (i worry a little about what it really says...) anyway, i'm off to be buggered by my lovely boyfriend, who has waited patiently for me to finish this mail....hey baby...if-a-lovin-you-is-wrong-i-don-wanna-be-right..... i'm a terry towelling man myself. ian ps. i heard some lesbians find that their tongues swell to such an extent, that they have to borrow wheelbarrows to push the offending organs around in....grown women pushing wheelbarrows....god help us and protect us. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ksgljl78 at xxx.net Thu Feb 17 20:33:48 2000 From: ksgljl78 at xxx.net (jason luther) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:33:48 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i shall miss the nursery... Message-ID: <005601bf7986$4cd6fe40$63891b26@oemcomputer> as the subject might imply, this is my first ever post, and im a little excited. but come on, who wouldnt be? so please, if i ramble on about nothing, i apologize. its so wonderful to come home and read all of the posts i receive from the list everyday. its tremendously comforting to know there are other people out there that kind of think and act the same way that i do. i live in michigan, a suburb of detroit actually, and there are only like 3 people i know that are into belle and sebastian, its a terrible shame. my ex was the person who introduced me to them, and now that our friendship has waned a little, thats one less person i have to talk about belle and sebastian with, it depresses me. but hey now i have like 1500 people to talk to!! attempts have been made in my behalf to introduce some of my friends (if you can really call them that) to the beautifulness called belle and sebastian, but to no avail, they would rather listen to shit (i.e. limp biscuit, corn, and the like). i purchased a 'boy with the arab strap' t shirt, and wear it quite often, hoping that someone might recognize it. although this has never happened. today was an odd day. i went to university, which by the way, i hate, and muttled through one class. in between classes i have like an hour and a half break, and today i decided to go to the computer lab on campus and send one of those post cards from the jeepster site to my friend/ex, julie. while typing it out, i was listening to the 'rushmore' soundtrack. for some reason i decided to dance in my chair, and if youve ever seen me dance (which you havent, cause i dont) im sure it was quite a site. anyways it was great to just sit there and groove to the music, and type, in front of all my peers. music is the only thing that can take over my whole body, im sure you can all agree. upon finishing the postcard to julie, i decided to walk around and try to 'run into' the girl i have been chasing after. of course i didnt, so i skipped my second class and started the drive home. still in my weird mood, i decided to go to a local town and go music-shoppe-hopping. i didnt find anything i liked, the new 'supergrass' doesnt come out until like april, and apparently the new 'elliot smith' single wasnt released or something, anyways, i bought 'the cures' latest. okay, i arrived home, and still the record bag from jeepster hasnt come yet. sigh... well then, i popped into the sinister chat, and who happened to be there...? but the wonderful honey. for some unforeseen discrepancy, i have been in the nursery for like 2 and a half weeks, and honey was gracious enough to look me up and graduate me. so you can thank honey for this boring post heh heh, just kidding, its all my fault. well, i promise i wont post unless i have something exciting to say (which is pretty much never) orrrr if i get extremely bored (which is all the time). well im sorry if i just sucked 5 minutes from your day that you will never recover. to all of my fellow sinisterers.... jason the absent minded +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From michael at xxx.net Thu Feb 17 21:56:59 2000 From: michael at xxx.net (Michael Cronshaw) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:56:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: i think that's what he said, but i need to hear it on a maxell Message-ID: <004b01bf7991$f17ec8a0$02000003@oemcomputer> Hello peeps, This is my first time (blush). I just thought I'd give an opinion on what is said at the end of Lazy Line Painter Jane at the Bowlie. Alasdair said; And how come I have managed to miss until now StuM shouting "FUCKING HIT ME!" near the end of LLPJ? Or is that not what he says at all? Nick said; Much as I'd like to believe that Stuartmmm got so excited by the occasion that he wanted the pain with the pleasure, I think he's actually saying 'FUCKING HIT IT, BEANS!' as in Chris 'Beanz' Geddes, who is giving the his organ a damn good thrashing at the time. I'd always assumed it was "FUCKING HIPPIES!", directed at the audience. And I thought it must have been Stuart D that said it, with his disaffection with the band being obvious, and with his Looper making electronic music, it would fit that B&S folkies at a festival could be seen as 'hippies'. Plus, even if it wasn't Stuart D, at least some members of B&S are (gulp, er, um) music marketing people, and therefore may not be in tune with some of their fans' values? (Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan) But thanks to Nick I can now see a less cynical viewpoint (even if I'm not entirely convinced). I should really know who said whatever it was anyway, as I was there, in body. I like to think that I'm the drunken twat who's screaming 'woo hoo' far too loud and suchlike inbetween songs, but I guess I'm not the only one who thinks that... Mikey.x _______________________ hmm... "There she was just a-walking down the street singing 'doo-wah-diddy-diddy-dum-diddy-doo' Paul Jones "And in the seventies there were Osmonds, there were lots of Osmonds, there were lots of little Osmonds everywhere, everywhere, oh everywhere" Lawrence _______________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From justin at xxx.com Thu Feb 17 23:00:35 2000 From: justin at xxx.com (Justin Williams) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:00:35 -0600 Subject: Sinister: of forgotten thoughts and remembered dreams Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000217140329.0097cf00@delafont.com> Afternoon dreamers and thinkers, After much hesitation and thought I've finally brought myself to at least attempt a first time in a long time post. For those of you who don't know me, which I imagine is just about everyone on the list that doesn't frequent #sinister, my name's Justin. I don't post for the same reason most people don't post: although I have many beautiful concepts and thoughts floating through my head at any one given moment, putting them into words is a task to which I rarely feel prepared. Even now, I am fully aware that I am just tip-toeing word to word, hoping that a mosaic is being created before my blind eyes...all the while knowing it will be nothing of the sort. Every now and then I get the notion that the key lies in being able to communicate exactly what one is thinking at the moment, and not what may have been stirring around in one's head an hour or day before. That of course is highly relative. Another reason I don't post is that I have fallen a little back in my B&S listenings. The feeling, you know, is still very much there...just nothing tangible at the moment. Because of that, this will probably be my last post for another, what 5 months or so? I just don't have anything new to say about our boys/girl, and I can't seem to muster the creativity to expound on any of the subjects spinning around lately (depression, sexual preference, etc.). That brought me to thinking about the nature of creativity, which I won't go off on, but I only get the desire to post when I feel "divinely" inspired. However, I find myself confronted with a double-edged sword in the sense that once I feel inspired, when I sit down to communicate that eternal feeling associated with listening to well crafted music...I draw a blank. Nothing I might say could even communicate one-twentieth of what I'm feeling. I know there is no conceivable way that I am the only one on the list to experience this, but I may be one of the only ones who can't seem to overcome it. For example, last night I was laying on my couch listening to Mojave 3, and all of a sudden I had an insight into the essence of our world. And by "our world", I mean the world of those of us not only on sinister but the world of anyone who feels like music is simultaneously a healing process, a time-capturing device (I always feel like albums encapsulate certain times in my life), a magical event (at times), and an unknowable evoker of other-worldly emotions. These traits are obviously few out of a million, but you understand what I'm saying. Well the insight I had wasn't something I could reason out or really even comprehend fully, but it was a definite feeling. And without wanting to sound overtly idealistic or naive, the feeling was love. No matter what kind of song I'm listening to (as long as it is one I like), the mood it conveys is just an off-shade of love, even if it is the most depressing song I've ever heard. To me, love is an all encompassing emotion that has been almost irreparably bastardized by misinterpretation and misuse. I really hope I'm making at least a sliver of sense, because this is rather hard. This is not something that I can communicate well, but if I didn't at least try I don't think I could live with myself. I guess the bottom line of what I am trying to say is, music is perhaps the only device I have for experiencing my humanity. It is the only device I have for feeling at one with all that exists. I wouldn't want to live if music didn't exist, and I don't say that out of haste or assumption. I know it is true without hesitation. I also regret having to sound dramatic, but I guess I'm a bit desperate. Well, that's enough out of me for awhile kids...if anyone wants to continue this "conversation" privately I would absolutely love to, but otherwise this may be the last you hear from me in awhile. I will still however continue to enjoy the wonderful works of prose that you kids put out daily. I just want to say thanks to all of you. You're my people and although I don't interact with you that often, I wouldn't be the same without you. Right, take care everyone... Justin xo "My mother was a tight knot, Bound up with false guilt. Strapped up in her fearing A wall she had built An independent girl in a dark and cruel world, She lost the way to say 'ok, now lay back' "We disagreed on most things. I shouted peace and love, the family of mankind, the symbol of the dove... She only saw the surface of things before her face, But I was young and argued on for hours." - Donovan, Age of Treason +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Thu Feb 17 23:42:56 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:42:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: * There was a wee hedgehog called Fubble In-Reply-To: <20000211193419.43352.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: My goodness! Hark at you all, all a-buzz and red-cheeked and engaged in furious debate over Sodom and Gomorrah! /me says nothing(*) and hopes you all just keep an eye on your audience. :) OK. The archives. Yes, I'm sorry they've been a real bowl of porridge (I *like* porridge) in the last few weeks, Jeff who runs the mail-archive.com service has had some horrible unfortunate hardware problems, poor soul. He'll be right as rain soon (do I make him sound like a robot? I mean his server), but I've decided to move them anyway, because running the software myself means the search will be better (so you can search for messages that contain "eggnog", "fishcake" but not "arse muscles"), and the archives will be bang up to date as new messages arrive just like the good old days. Heath from belleandsebastian.org has been very kind again and offered me more space, and they're up and running now. To see them go to the link on the Sinister home page or just hop to: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/archive.html Unfortunately a bizarre occasional error in compiling the search index has defeated me now for a week (who can tell me why glimpseindex core dumps with signal 11 on FreeBSD? who can tell me why evil people prosper?). So for searching the archives you'll be redirected to the old site for now. But the new archives above should be up to the minute from now on as posts arrive on the list, and I'll fix the search "soon". Martin Rissbrook said: > Firstly, an apology to Honey for saying in the chatroom the other night that > I thought his subject line story idea would lead to a load of disorganised > pants. ... except that it was a silly idea wasn't it :) I thought that the moment after I posted, as you do. In a very poor attempt to grasp some self-respect from this I've decided to make it a limerick game and sink myself deeper. In the subject line you will find the first line of a limerick. Please continue it if the spirit so leads you. Honey xxx (*) except! http://www.thoughtshop.com/Christers/autoresponse.htm Ooo cheeky. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lookingdownward at xxx.net Thu Feb 17 23:35:24 2000 From: lookingdownward at xxx.net (Custard Pie Appreciation Consortium) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 18:35:24 -0500 Subject: Sinister: *...who held court in a nice little pink gingham dress which Fubble had given him for his birthday. Message-ID: <38AC85B9.BC9A1504@crosswinds.net> You! Yes, You specifically! I was strolling about aimlessly to-day (fine February days I'll miss most when global warming turns the eastern seaboard into lukewarm bathwater), when I had something of an epiphany, at which point several curious incidents that have occurred to me in the past month suddenly became clear. I have awkward reactions when I encounter strangers. It's only fair to let you know that, if I've seen any of you on the street without knowing who you are, I may have done this to you, too. When I meet people, I often imagine them in various states of undress in ...how shall we say it? classical poses. Characters from ancient myths, nineteenth-century novels, and sometimes Shakespeare. And while this can be fun, it feels a little bit vulgar, and more than a little bit duplicitous, to be talking about perfectly ordinary things while thinking to oneself that they'd probably look smashing, nude, in marble. I was reading Henry James' _Roderick Hudson_ this week (a beautiful novel if a bit tragic; I highly recommend it), when it dawned on me: I'm not a pervert; I just want to be a sculptor! Now that this is all clear, I'd like to apologise to anybody that I may have (anonymously or otherwise) imagined in compromising poses. And for other things... I hope Stu D. leaving is a good thing, although I don't care much for any implication that *any*body can play the bass. In the long run, though, I think that having somebody from the existing band fill in is a lot better than having some strange guy who can play bass and do nothing else (pardon me while I think back to the boy who played bass for Duran Duran on their Medazzaland tour... good, but no John Taylor). I will only say that I won't say anything about intolerance and prejudicial behaviours toward same-sex relationships. I do worry some times that people are too wrapped up in their own definitions of tolerance to realise that they're being intolerant themselves. Like what's going on with the diplomatic isolation of Austria; it disturbs me that other nations will preach about what amounts to a conditional democracy, which is no democracy at all. That said, I'm quite glad I'm not a foreigner living in Austria right now. -Paralis. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Fri Feb 18 11:42:06 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:42:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: live date...or rumor... (fwd) Message-ID: Hello sweeties, Mr Jeepster said this to the newsgroup. I thought you all might want to know too. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 18:07:08 +0000 From: David Kitchen Subject: Re: live date...or rumor... Newsgroup: alt.music.belle+sebastian ok, here's the news as on the site::: LATEST NEWS: the 1st march recording session for the john peel show has regrettably been cancelled so the band can put the finishing touches to the forthcoming album. it is hoped that this will be re-scheduled soon. Also, just received this from Mandi Freeman at Radio 1 in Scotland: Thought I'd drop you a note to let you know that I'm just back from Cava Studios in Glasgow where we were recording a tribute session to Ennio Morricone, featuring Isobel. The band recorded 2 numbers for Session in Scotland. Isobel sang "Argomenti" - originally recorded by Astrid Gilberto - and it's just beautiful. The second track was The Good The Bad & The Ugly - well it had to be, really! The band included Mick Slaven (Leopards), Bill Wells (collaborator with the likes of Future Pilot and Telstar Ponies), and David Scott (Pearlfishers). Both songs will air on the Session in Scotland on Thursday 2 March (Radio 1, Scotland only, 8 'til 10 pm). A tribute night for Ennio Morricone will also be held on 11th March 2000 entitled MONDO MORRICONE. The venue is to the Cowane Theatre (69 Cowane St, Stirling, FK8 1JP. Tel: 01786 462367). There will be performances on the night by artists from: Belle & Sebastian, Teenage Fanclub, BMX Bandits, The Pearlfishers, The Vaselines, The Pastels. Please note that this is NOT a Belle & Sebastian gig, it is simply one or two of the members of Belle & Sebastian participating in the tribute to Ennio Morricone. media news last updated February 17, 2000 cheers david +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ jeepster own my soul Me too. Honey x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erica.macarthur at xxx.com Fri Feb 18 12:25:19 2000 From: erica.macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:25:19 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Bible bashing Message-ID: <007701bf7a0b$7619e260$0253063e@default> Dearest Crapheads, Religion and Lesbians seem to have come up a bit recently, so here's a story which involves the two. Me and the Christian faith aren't really the best of friends. It stems from a holiday I went on with my church a few years ago - it was at Butlins, kind of like a Bible-bashing-Bowlie, only it was called 'Spring Harvest'. On the first day there was a debate for people my age (then 14/15) about being Gay and being a Christian. I was pro-gay, but the other side cut me down with 'witty' phrases such as "It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!" Followed by, "yeah, why are YOU so keen? You're a LESBIAN aren't you!" complete with pointing and laughing. Needless to say, I turned the cheek. Yes, I was a strong girl. That was until I ran to the toilet and banged my fists against things, sobbing. Anyway, better things.. Velocity farewell spooned us out another helping of verbal sugar: >Erica McArthur... well, I'm a bit confussed about >Erica... You and me both, honey. 'Confussed', what a brilliant word! A bit like 'Gallavant', which was the name of a netzine me and my friend Matthew started up but never really finished. It exists in the cyberspace graveyard now (http://www.gallavant.ukgateway.net/) - beautifully made with absolutely no content. It started from a misspelling on my account, but we later decided it's a mixture of the words 'Gallant' and Gallavent'. If we really did start up a Sinister Village Velocity, I could work in the Sweet Shop because I have prior experience in the Cola Cubes/Sherbet Lemons dept. I'd be the fashion designer but I don't think everyone would be too pleased with me confiscating their cords and trainers and replacing them with three-button suits and teddy boy shoes. I bet they'd go down well at Peter's Disco, though. Erica x Let's hotwire the Bentley, Harry! http://www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dee at xxx.ie Fri Feb 18 12:32:48 2000 From: dee at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:32:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: smut city. Message-ID: Oh list ! What am I doing, I'm turning into the narrow wizard, thats what. There was a departmental do on last night, an inaugural or something and free wine made me a very silly naughty girl. There was a guy in a box controlling the lights and what on that were going on through out the obligatory lecture that preceded the free wine. He was so lovely. I think he may have been the best looking boy I've ever seen in my life. Me and a girl from the dept went into the box and *cringe * in no uncertain terms offered our services. He called us weird and was very scared. Then I left and that girl pretended she kissed him while I was gone. I got insanely jealous and wouldn't leave him alone after that. I sort of climbed onto his knee and everything. While the girl was there he said he had a girlfriend called ciara and went the girl left he told me he didn't have a girlfriend. Something deep within in me prevented me from hopping on him. I think it was the feeling of imminent failure. Reader, he rejected me. It was so humiliating. I think I loved him for a minute. I even cleared the hall for him of my colleagues and contemporaries so he could go to a party with his girlfriend. I even stole someones hat so I would have an excuse to go back into the little box. they miraculously got their hat back and my silly antics resulted in him telling me to "get the fuck out of [his] office." Sob ! Wait, it gets worse. We all went onto a wine bar then and I ended up crying a few times because that girl was annoying me so much. At one point I did actually leave the wine bar because I hated her to bits and I walked down the street and gave a begger all my change but then I took a pound back, I think for bus fare. We got talking and he told me lots of possibly made up stories of how he got to Ireland, he was australian. His name was roy. His stories were very entertaining though. I said, I don't want to be rude mr. hobo but whats it like being a begger. He didn't take offence or anything and told me that it was good. He wasn't even cold and it was a pretty freezy night. I said, where next, america ? because he has been everywhere else. Then he said he never heard the word hobo before. I said, are you joking or what ? Then he asked me to marry and got kind of insistent. I lied and said I had a boyfriend and laer forgot and told him about the boy in the box. He laughed and laughed at that. As we sat there , no one gave him money. I think that was because he told me he'd share it with me anything we got while I was there, as a down payment on the dowry. Maybe I looked too rich to be a begger. I told him, he'd make a packet if he went to edinburgh to be a begger because they do. He thanked me for the advice and told me to stop fighting with the girl and enjoy the night anyway, to go back in there and just ignore her if she was mean. I asked him to come but he declined. I said that when we were leaving the bar I'd wave and say hi roy and he could say Hi Dee and everyone would be well impressed with me. But when we did eventually come out he was gone. I went back into the bar and came out of the toilet at the exact same time as my lecturer. Hes australian too so I told him about roy. He said roy was probably not homeless at all and I was silly to belive his stories, that all australians are liars. I grimaced when he said that. Then I asked him about a certain rumour which was circulating (about us) he said there was no truth in the rumours at all. I breathed a sigh of relief. I then showed off my excellent journalistic skills and told him what dirt I had on him. Then it was his turn to grimace, I had him bad. He was shocked at my knowledge of his lewd and lascivious dealings with his students. Then I went back to the table with him where I made him buy cigerettes. I was finding myself hugely attracted to him, which at the same time repulsed me so I started talking to a random stranger. I can't remember the random stranger's name but he was spanish and he told me he had a girlfriend even though he later tried to kiss me. (But I let him briefly) He told me the funny story , through broken english of how he came with his friend to the wine bar and his friend assumed that he was gay and tried to set him up with a closet gay married man of 50. the gay man had just left because whatever his name was told him that he did not wantto be a rent boy. AS we were talking the gay man came back and gave me a look of hatred. For some reason I started to kiss his hand. It must be really hard to be gay and be married, I was so ridiculously drunk at this stage, I don't know what I started to blubber. Gay man left and me and spanish boy started kissing. I made him stop because it was in bad taste in a place like that and I didn't want my lecturer to see. I really didn't like spanish boy at all and was tiring of his broken english so I said I had to talk to my colleagues. I sat beside my lecturer and said, resuce me. When spanish boy tried to take me back, he got very rude to him so spanish boy left. At one stage lecturer put his hand on my knee and I realised I was really really after some of the s word at this stage. It was really hard trying to control myself , be dignified for the masses. A gang of us all went back to the lecturers place and this other boy, (I really do sound like the narrow wizard) who was sitting beside me started rubbing the side of my leg subtely as a political discussion raged between the others. I got scared that the lecturer would see and didn't remotely fancy him so moved far away. Its weird though because everyone thinks he is really good looking and fancies him but I think he looks like an axe murderer and don't find it that appealing. I think he thought something was going to happen because as we were going for a taxi, I stopped to talk to some scottish boys in kilts and got a shock when I saw their willies. Then one of them pinned me to the gates of stephens green and even though Iwasn't scared the others thought I was and sent axe murderer boy over to rescue me. I think I may have been a little over exurberant in my thanking him for the rescue even though I didn't mind the scottish boys pranks at all , I'm very fond of my scottish counterparts even if they are ugly. Well anyway, the conversation about parliamentary politics soon came to a close and the boys made their exits. Then was no point in me going anywhere because I live so very far away so I stayed on lecturers sofa. I heard him going to the toilet and said , did you wash your hands ? as a private joke between us , he lingered in the hallway making silly comments , timewasting ones so that I wouldn't hassle him. In a completely contrived manner I went out "to make sure" he washed them and for some reason jumped into his bed. Despite all our silliness beforehand , I think this surprised him and I realised he really was tired. I gave him a hiccy anyway and this morning he started giving out saying that it left a mark. I didn't care though, I told him to say it was a heat rash. He made me not walk with him to college and I had to take a different route which took a very long time. I don't know if he thinks I fancy him or not. I don't now...yuk...but I really did then. MAybe he thinks I was just teasing him. I'm not afraid of him though. Hes afraid of me. Ha ha ha . Today I found out that I failed my fire alarm test which means I have to repeat that, if I fail again I lose my job. Grrr I hate having the threat of losing my job hanging over my head. I haven't seen anyone yet today to tell them that I failed my test and did silly things last night but it is very early , I keep forgetting. Oh another funny thing was in the lecturers house he was playing awful 1920s music and I said put on the gentle waves, because see hes a real snob and hates popular culture so I always take popular cultures side and he said okay in a pleasaant way and put on soothing music he has of dolphin sounds. At the time, I found this hilariously funny but its quite poor I realise now. So there. Smut levels are almost as high as the time I had three boyfriends at the same time, but that happened too long ago to bring up. If you read this far, you are a completely pervvy person and have disgusted me. _____________________________________________________________________________ Denise Power. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gerfus_noofle at xxx.com Fri Feb 18 13:15:00 2000 From: gerfus_noofle at xxx.com (Fergus Noodle) Date: 18 Feb 2000 05:15:00 -0800 Subject: Sinister: pointlessness is good Message-ID: <20000218131500.19823.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From hewits at xxx.uk Fri Feb 18 13:32:38 2000 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:32:38 -0000 Subject: Sinister: So what *did* happen in Gomorrah? Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69F056F4@park_ex> Something which occurs to me every now and then. I think we all have a pretty good idea what was going on in Sodom, but what were they getting up to gomorrah, it must have been pretty naughty (i'm a heathen with very little biblical knowledge, so apologies if this is like a really obvious question). Will Porter in a post of GRATE wit and intelligence mentioned homoamory. Wasn't he one of the wombles? The one with the bowler hat that fixed things.... I think i want to marry dimensionflippy Ian (depite being straight and already married and blokes not being able to marry each other), or at least hire him as my court jester. I also want to say arsemusclesdamagenappies, just cos it makes me grin. Alisdair said: when I saw Home Economics support The Apprentice Badgers. Pure Class. If anyone hasn't got The 'Badgers second album, etc etc stop taking the piss, mate, everyone knows the badgers second album was RUBBISH :) (and it was on "no, stop, my sides have split" records) Can i have the role of PuB qUiz OrgAniSer in the sinister village please or SmilEy BloKe iN tHE cOrNEr gEtTiNg vErY DrUnk. I don't think the village would have a shortage of LibRariAnS or ComPuTer TEchS though :) and for those of you wondering aboot why we say GRATE, it kind of comes from popex (http://www.popex.com/cgi-bin/popEx.cgi?Mentor=302) and the NME.com chatroom (http://www.nme.com) gang who picked it up from MJ Hibbert (http://listen.to/HeyHey16K) and the Artists Against Success (http://www.aas.mcmail.com) mob. There, hope that clears it all up. xoxo CarsmileSteve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Fri Feb 18 13:57:44 2000 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:57:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: Honey passed the following on to us A tribute night for Ennio Morricone will also be held on 11th March 2000 entitled MONDO MORRICONE. The venue is to the Cowane Theatre (69 Cowane St, Stirling, FK8 1JP. Tel: 01786 462367). There will be performances on the night by artists from: Belle & Sebastian, Teenage Fanclub, BMX Bandits, The Pearlfishers, The Vaselines, The Pastels. Please note that this is NOT a Belle & Sebastian gig, it is simply one or two of the members of Belle & Sebastian participating in the tribute to Ennio Morricone. If anybody fancies a night out then just mail me and there's plenty of floor space in the chalet for you and all your friends, hmmm just like a mini bowlie. Denise Power said I'm turning into the narrow wizard which explains why I've lost my pulling power, that bitch has stolen it, it's her fault that I've not pulled anybody new at all this week, you're gonna pay for this bitch (oooh did I sound all angry there, sorry didn't mean to, I was only joking). I was thinking about this Idea for the sinister village, do you think that we would need a list gigolo? and perhaps Crystalballs could be the villages moral majority (no offence meant mate) we would just have to pretend that there was more of him to make him the majority. We also need a beautifuly written history of the sinister village so I guess that Archel will just have to continue with sitting round knitting and occaisionally pausing to write something profound. justin said I wouldn't want to live if music didn't exist, and I don't say that out of haste or assumption. I know it is true without hesitation. and he was worried that he couldn't express himself well, well I thought that he did it so well that I'll just endorse the above words as being my thoughts exactly and not need to add any more to the subject. well that's it from me and I didn't even mention valentines day love and whatever owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Fri Feb 18 14:28:04 2000 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 06:28:04 PST Subject: Sinister: JILLY'S GO AWAY!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <20000218142804.77136.qmail@hotmail.com> ok.got the message:don't go to jilly's.... tanx people.anyway i did find out about the place and I'M NOT GOING THERE! so don't worry.so,where a nice girl like me should go in manchester? if anything interesting just tell me. so,ennio morricone?wow!should i go or not? isn't it a bit far?mm...we'll see.... anyway,tanx again.not much to say,won't keep you longer. ............................................ bye bye dreamland own my soul...... zoe. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Fri Feb 18 15:01:46 2000 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:01:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: The Poor Unsuspeting Gay Message-ID: <20000218150146.27542.qmail@web1702.mail.yahoo.com> Dear children, I think gayism is bluddy GRATE. And the reason we say this is because we adopted it from the bluddy GRATE PopEx, the fun fantasy pop trading shares game. Steve typed the wrong URL in I see, so try this one instead and play! Cos its GRATE! http://www.popEx.com/cgi-bin/popEx.cgi?Mentor=1475 Even David Kitchen plays it, even though I thought he didn't like spam? And its good to know that he supports Sinister by sending us the B&S news updates too, isn't it :) Unfortuntately I won't be able to see this tribute to Ennio Morricone as I will be in New York seeing the Magnetic Fields on that date. Ner ner ner ner ner. Me, New York? We're like *that*. I'm hoping my northern accent will help me pull a cool New York boy - even though scary Adrian-san from Japanese class asked me if I was American. American? Pah! I don't even like Americans!* Moving on from that topic, to American Lesbians! HI LJ! Thanks for the offer of lesbo tea, but I'm afraid I don't like herbal teas, they're bluddy bollocks. I had blackcurrant tea once and it was very vom-flavoured. What sexuality is two months past its sell by date Diet Irn-Bru? As I have two bottles of that left in my room, if you want to try them out. *Unless they are nice. Erica mentioned dragging kids out of cords and trainers and putting them in three piece suites, I mean three piece suits, I mean, eh? Posh clothes. As I read her post whilst wearing (doh! call the fashion police!), cords, trainers (New Balance 802s, has anyone got trainer recommondations as I want some more. I'm thinking of maybe...saucony but I don't know? I'm also thinking Converse but is that too dull?), I felt awfully looked down on. I happen to like my cords and trainers and I'd take them over teddy boy shoes anyday. I nearly bought a pink and black jacket the other day, I swear. But common sense got the better of me and I put it back. And then in the next weeks what do I see but hot pink gucci imitation jackets everywhere. Sigh. They are sooo hideous, just so awful I cannot believe anyone would wear them. If anyone has one on the list, look - I don't hate people who wear the jackets, I just hate the jackets, ok? They'll cause damage to your arse muscles y'know though. Or at least cause damage to my VOM muscles. Aaw though. Aren't Belle & Sebastian GRATE though. Love, Sarah xo ===== "But just remember, when your teacher told you to always find a home for stray animals, she wasn't referring to your rectum." -- DNA Mag-AZINE. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ruth.A.Deller at xxx.Deller Fri Feb 18 15:53:48 2000 From: Ruth.A.Deller at xxx.Deller (Ruth.A.Deller at xxx.Deller) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:53:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ooooh...you cheeky monkey! In-Reply-To: <38AC85B9.BC9A1504@crosswinds.net> References: <38AC85B9.BC9A1504@crosswinds.net> Message-ID: Hello everyone. This is my first post to the list, and I have to confess I'm going to get off to a bad start by grovelling.... You see, I'm a student (like many here I imagine) and am doing a nice cushy research assignment on music fans and the internet and related stuff like that. Seeing as B and S have a massive internet fanbase and this list is very big - I figure some of you might be able to help me (Cliff Richard fans have been very fiorthcoming!!). If you don't mind answering a few painfree questions, please email me back (but bypass the list, eh?) as I'd love to hear from you. Cheers and that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!RAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You love a lazy afternoon Once in a while +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox at xxx.com Fri Feb 18 17:56:17 2000 From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:56:17 GMT Subject: Sinister: Ambient Ride Message-ID: <20000218175617.32961.qmail@hotmail.com> VAPOUR TRAIL I was wondering if anyone had a view on Will Calhoun's new 21" Ambient Ride. It says here that it delivers an amazingly big, breathy, multi-colored sound that rises up from deep within the dark, low-pitched soul of its thin, heavily hammered raw bronze. It fills the low- to mid- pitch ranges with an axotic roar dominated by natural acoustic tendencies, making the Ambient ideal for many styles, including Drum 'n' Bass, Funk and Jazz. 'This is a deep-space ride based on a primitive Jazz concept', Will has said. 'The sound of my stikc hitting the metal is like the snapping of twigs in a roaring fire... the strokes click within a funky wash of tone'. Now, you can't hear impassioned words like that and doubt the possibilities of newness in music. LIMEAID I was also wondering if anyone had any views on the word 'limn'. This has two senses: 1) to make a pictorial representation of (deriving from Latin re. light); 2) outer edge of the sun's disc (deriving from Latin re. edge [?]). I take it that the latter usage may, in fact, be related to our 'liminal'. The word 'limb' is something else altogether, although I'm not sure about 'limbo'. Anyway, the question is, what are these seemingly related words doing hanging around near each other, when they seem to have radically different etymologies? IN THE CLOUDS Yes, that's an All About Eve reference. Well, it could be. Does anyone share my sense that as you get older, the clouds seem to move faster? I seem to recall, as a child, looking up and finding their movements imperceptible. Now they scoot overhead like there's no tomorrow. If the movement of the clouds is seen as a metaphor of sorts for time as such, then perhaps this is a pretty straightforward sign that the Down escalator is picking up speed. The same goes, I might add, for clocks. You can't tell me that clock hands always moved so visibly. You can? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Fri Feb 18 20:11:01 2000 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 20:11:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: sinister track list #2 Message-ID: <20000218201101.24914.qmail@web3001.mail.yahoo.com> Hey pumpkin pies... I hope you are all well... ops... my cigarette just fell on the carpet!! wait... got it!! this is going to be short... to your relief I'm afraid... Anyway... I'm DJing tonight... I thought I'll let you know... and I'm taking your "sinister track list" with me.. I just want to say that all the songs requested are going to be played... I hope I'll survive the lynching... The most outrageous track I've been asked to play - not in this list but in the place I DJ - hold on... it's gonna hurt... Deep the f** Purple!!! Can you believe that? and a friend of mine, a total twee DJ was asked to play a song by Areo(Arial??) Speedwagon.. see I can't even spell it... so... without any further delay I now present you your very own track list... 1. B&S - I don't love anyone 2. Love - A house is not a motel 3. Pixies - debaser 4. Field Mice - If you need someone 5. B&S - You're just a baby 6. Beck - Sex Laws 7. One Night Suzan - Is it true? 8. Cure - Boys don't cry 9. B&S - Judy and the dream off horses 10. Gentle Waves - Evensong 11. Television Personalities - Dream Inspires 12. Moz - the difference it makes 13. The Wedding Present - Big Boots 14. Cinerama - Ears 15. Nick Drake - Hazey Jane II 16. The Pastels - Heaven above! 17. B&S - I could be dreaming 18. Magnetic Fields - Smoke and Mirrors 19. Radiohead - creep 20. The Field Mice - Fabulous friend 21. The Sea Urchins - Pristine Christine 22. B&S - get me away from here, I'm dying 23. The Wedding Present - A Million Miles 24. Talulah Gosh - Be Your Baby 25. Television Personalities - Sorry to Embarass you 26. Heavenly - I fell In love last night 27. Cinerama - You turn me on 28, Baxendale - Music for Girls 29. Neutral Milk Hotel - Naomi 30. Biff Bang Pow! _ The happiest girl in the world 31. Primal Scream - Velocity Girl 32. Beck - Mixed Bizness 33. Even As We Speak - Bizarre Love Triangle 34. Joy Division - Love Will Tear Us Apart 35. Stone Roses - She Bangs the Drums 36. Housemartins - Happy Hour 37. Orange Juice - Poor Old Soul part I ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ that's it.. phew!! Well... I'm going to make a tape with all your requests... those of you who want to have a copy - it's gonna be some sort of a tape-tree - please e-mail me with your snail mail addresses... those who requested and those who haven't... it's OK... Have to dash... to get ready... wish me luck... Love you all... Love + Vinyl Obsessions V.F. XXX O ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Sat Feb 19 01:24:13 2000 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 20:24:13 EST Subject: Sinister: i am evil, someone hit me Message-ID: <2.10b9c9e.25df4abd@aol.com> Hi sinister! Eeevil things have been happening to me. Firstly, the DATE with the BOY called Barry, was crap, namely couse he's a boring old git who's converstional skills generally run out once he's finished talking about Doctor Who. No offence to Doctor Who fans but do I really want to sit for a BLUDDY HOUR listening about how the thing on the Dalek's side got changed to the other side of it in the fiftieth series because of camera problems? No I don't, and I don't want to get off with someone who has bits of food stuck in his braces. Oh and he's a complete moke. So I'm trying to tell him I hate him in a nice way, but he's so bluddy thick he doesn't get it. The next evil thing I did was with my friend. This girl in school has been giving me LOADS of stick, and I'm a complete wimp so, instead of standing up to her and getting punched I ordered 10 ham and mushroom pizzas round to her house from a really really expensive pizza delivery place. Don't tell anyone though, because if she finds out I'll get the beating of my life. On a nice note, someone wanted to fight me, but I'm a lot bigger than her, and the only reason that she told everyone was because she knew I serious don't believe in fighting and violence (exept on the telly and in books) and prolly wouldn't show up. But I did show up, and I said "I'm not going to fight you, but if you're going to hit me then go ahead because I really want to go home now" and for a second I thought she was going to belt me one so I shut me eyes, and when I opened them she was walking off, and everyone thought she was a moke, but really only cos they wanted to see me get hit. But the reason this is nice is because I'm still in one piece. The daily record did a miniscule article on Stuart D leaving but it was only a couple of lines. I don't think he should leave because I was hoping there would be another book in the line of Ink Polariods and Little Ink Movies. Like Little Ink DVD's with interactive camera angles. I ordered those two books today at the big bookshop in town. The guy there gave me really dirty looks because he couldn't type and it took him half an hour to enter the big long titles into the computer. I still haven't seen the box set. I wonder if it actually exists. Has anyone seen it? We're doing sex in RE (as a topic, not actually practising it), and, without thinking, I asked the RE teacher what frigid meant quite loudly, and instantly regretted it, due to the male proportion of the class shouting out "you!". Look, my friends set it up, they thought it would be really funny. The whole gay thing's made me all upset. Since I'm a catholic, and I had a go at our parish priest for setting up a Keep The Clause campaign group in our church, because one of my friends, who by the way is also catholic, happens to be gay, and anyone who says there is something wrong with gay people is a moke, because he's really nice, and he doesn't deserve the crap he gets. And even if one of my friends wasn't gay, i still think that the clause thing is mega moke-ish. Also, let's not fight, and let's not all attack poor wee chris (who's older than me but that's not the point) with big fat axes. How do lesbains have sex? Wouldn't it be great if the whole world was full of belle and sebastian fans. That's completely unrelated, but all the belle and sebastian fans are nice with the exeption of me, for the reasons above. It's 1.30 am, so please excuse me and this e mail. Did you know that you can have sex standing up. I learned this in RE. Love, hugs, kisses and various other signs of affection and friendship for sinister which I love so much. Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ksgljl78 at xxx.net Sat Feb 19 06:47:10 2000 From: ksgljl78 at xxx.net (jason luther) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 01:47:10 -0500 Subject: Sinister: * enveloped in lonelyness, he waddles over to the park bench, and plopped down... Message-ID: <000601bf7aa5$26ba4f80$7a891b26@oemcomputer> this morning, something strange happened. perhaps not so strange to you, but odd for me. most of my thoughts are usually directed toward my future. anything to get me out of my current bout with nondirectionism. this morning whilst standing over the stove making a broccoli and cheese omelet (im not sure if i invented it or not, but its bloody grate!!), i heard my sisters singing and playing in the basement (ages 3 and 5). forgetting about the fact that the song was about poo-poo, hearing them sing made me miss my childhood, and made me want to be young again. after i ate i went down stairs to get dressed for work, when i heard my sister put on her scoobie-doo cassette tape. at which point, she and my other sis began spinning around a large pole we have in the basement until they felt sick. now, i know everyone has heard these songs that were on the tape, all of those happy sings like 'seven days a week' and such from the 60s (70s?). for some reason those songs, and my sisters tom-foolery made me miss childhood. so for the rest of the day, i vowed to be a kid again. of course this didnt last long, once i got to work it was back to asshole/slacker jason. moral of the story? dont grow up...but if you do, dont look back. still no jeepster bag behave yourselves, but not too much, its the weekend after all ~jason the youngest member of the geriatrics community +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alex at xxx.uk Sat Feb 19 13:56:06 2000 From: alex at xxx.uk (pulped) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 14:56:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: jeepster online Message-ID: Hi, Jus thought I'd alert everyone to an online questionnaire with Jeepster at http://www.kindamuzik.net. It's not the band, but the label perspective is interesting nonetheless. Cheers, Alex http://www.pulped.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sat Feb 19 14:01:21 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:01:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Straight, No Chest Hair Message-ID: <01bf7ae1$cd7217e0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Evening all. Arse muscles clenched? Then I'll begin. I don't think we can blame Baby Chris's confusion on his age. I mean, I'm roughly twice Chris's age, and I'm still confused. I'm very much in favour of gay rights, yet I don't want anything up my bum. Except perhaps the odd pencil. Unlike most people, I think Stuart David's songs are better in B&S albums or EPs. It's only when they're all together in a Looper album that they send me into a smelly-trainered dogbreath coma. I think he was henpecked into leaving B&S. Mrs David probably said "but Stuart they only let you have one track on the last album, and it wasn't even about me and I'm not on stage when they play so you can't gaze lovingly at me because if you don't I'll fucking clout you one and they hardly ever go to America where independent films are made when are we going to make an independent film? I want to make an independent film and have it shown at Sundance and it'll be about you and me, but mostly me and I'm sick of people calling you that Belle and Sebastian guy I want people to call you that ex-Belle and Sebastian guy and ask you why you left every time we do an interview with a fanzine in America, have you changed your nappy today? Ronnie hasn't." I still haven't forgiven him for being rude to me in that chat, you know. I prefer Mick. His nappy is always impeccable. Is this Morricone tune Isobel did one of those heavy breathing female la la la things? Hope so, they awaken my libido. They should have done the Lord George one though. I'm in charge of the disco, am I? In that case, it's going to be like a Spanish disco, the girls can get in free, but the boys have to pay. And it's going to be shaped like a boat. And there's no indie allowed. Just Krautrock. Peter "This is a message to my people that Honey does not only taste good in one mouth. I'm here and I'm going to share it" - Ali Farka Toure. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.borgia at xxx.ca Sat Feb 19 16:04:30 2000 From: alexander.borgia at xxx.ca (Alexander Borgia) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:04:30 -0500 Subject: Sinister: SIN BIN - Sini-Bear Information Network Message-ID: <38AEBF0E.ED0E9587@sympatico.ca> [community events] Thursday night I ran into my friend Lily in the convenience store across the street at about ten o'clock when I went out to get some dragon food. I must have been tired because when she said hi she told me that she'd had teenage head in her basement. I'd figured I had pretty much heard about every possible variation on oral sex, this teenage thing escaped me though. However, it turned out that what she was telling me was that she had most of the band called Teenage Head rehearsing in her basement. This seemed to make much more sense to me as I really did not want to discuss my misinterpretation in the munchie snacks section of the store. For those who have no idea who Teenage Head was or wasn't, they were a band from the eighties, I think. I am not sure how popular they ever became because I hate most of the 80s music. With particular emphasis on any of the Canadian crap from that period. Legislation requires a certain percentage of content be Canadian which results in considerable overplay of bad music. The only thing that I can remember about Teenage Head was a controversy over their name when they were playing somewhere. So what this whole episode tells me is that all those really bad bands from the 80s are still out there somewhere, and we must be diligent or else they may come back. I image there are basements all over the place where this underground network has them plotting some devious scheme. Those of you who may be purchasing a home in the near future should pay close attention to the basements or else you may just end up with real estate that has some 80s band in the basement bringing the value down for the entire neighbourhood. I imagine they are like termites, roaches and mice that when you get them they are difficult to eradicate. Could you imagine coming home from work only to discover Loverboy wearing red leather and sitting on your couch? Okay, I'll admit that for some of you that may be a good thing. [documentary] "Les Mémoires et les Pensées de Maurice Bear" --- A special documentary. Glimpse in the deep traumatic mind of this great bear. Stolen Diary pages! (translations from the French courtesy of the firm Bear, Bear, Bear, & Nephew, & Son.) Maurice Bear - aristocrat in exile. Living in Texas where everything really is bigger. Without oil wells or cattle herds he is excluded from the societies of the elite. Deeply in love, he sets his thoughts to paper. We stole them. There she goes again, Mademoiselle la petite Jamais. Never, that is who she is. Why does she torture me so? Oh the pain, the pain, the pain. She is always leaving me. It must be one of those stinky poopie rabbits. How can she do this to me? Does she not know that I love her so? Oh the pain, the pain. The pain. She has returned, my petite-jamais. I can smell her fragrance and she does smell very lovely. Come closer my little dove I want to drink in your aroma. She looks so beautiful to me and she tortures me all the time by undressing in front of me, and I can see the swell of her hips and the caress of her breasts. "Take me! You make me mad woman! Let me dive upon you and rub my furry body all over your pearly nakedness!" Oh the pain, the pain. The pain. There she goes again, La Petite-Jamais. Why does she torture me like this? Oh the pain, the pain, the pain. She is always leaving me. It must be one of those smelly cacka rabbits. Why does she do this to me? She must not know that I love her so? Oh the pain, the pain. The pain. What is this I see? Denise? That is a very nice French name. She could be my little dove. My, what a lovely women she seems to be. Her tale pains my heart. Let me show her a real bear. I will romance her and dine her. Forget you! Crazy mime in the box I have some packing tape for you. And you too Australian book reader I will teach you a thing or two. Hobo hit the rails! Step aside and let me put the bear in unbearable ecstasy. I will sweep this power-woman into bliss and love her while the sun rises. And you can go to those rabbits, my petite-jamais. I will shower my lovely dove in adoration. Oh the pain, the pain. I cannot leave you my petite-jamais. My heart belongs to you. Oh the pain, the pain. The pain. Here she comes again. She is naked. I see her coming to me. Yes my little dove. (c) 2000 Maurice Bear - Les Mémoires et les Pensées de Maurice Bear [upcoming events] Toronto Meet Up 12000 a Sini-Bear Information Network exclusive. But the notes say 12,000. Shove it up your ass. I'm tired of all this millennium crap anyway. Spell check this ===@) Okay, I'll try. Alexnadre +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ISawUfall at xxx.com Sat Feb 19 17:51:36 2000 From: ISawUfall at xxx.com (ISawUfall at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 12:51:36 EST Subject: Sinister: CURE TICKETS ROSELAND/NYC? NO BS CONTENT!! Message-ID: sorry to ask but does anyone have or know anyone who has an extra ticket...or two? please pleas let me know. ill make it so worth yer while.... lots of love n sexy pelvic thrusts, dave cass. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GardeningAtNight at xxx.com Sat Feb 19 18:51:11 2000 From: GardeningAtNight at xxx.com (GardeningAtNight at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 13:51:11 EST Subject: Sinister: Hitting Jen with a feather duster.. Message-ID: <7f.ea905a.25e0401f@aol.com> Well, here's another new face in the Sinister sea. I've been out of the nursery for some time, but despite Miss Honey's tender push which thrust me into Sini-land, I've been mostly sitting in the corner still sucking my thumb and listening to the big people talk about arse muscles. But then Jen said hi to me, which I must admit made me blush a bit. I still hadn't anything to say though, so I kept my thumb lodged between my teeth. Something I'd like to tell Jen though, is to avoid boys like the plague. You'll always be disappointed. I've made that my rule to live by because it seems that their main law of life is to avoid me like the plague. So at least we're in agreement. Whoever said girls mature faster than boys was dead-on. Now maybe I've got a reason to post, because I found something Loopery for people who like that sort of stuff. At Gigmania there's about an hour of realvideo of a Looper gig in NYC from who knows when. You can find it at: http://www.gigmania.com/artist.asp?artist=Looper I watched about the first 5 minutes of it having no preconceptions whatsoever, and I must say that I'm even more excited about seeing them now. My sadness at Stu's leaving was quickly replaced by happiness that I'll be able to see him, since people like him mean a lot to 15 year old American kids like myself. Or at least it's an excuse to miss a violin lesson that night. If I'm struck by anything else BLUDDY GRATE I'll let you all know, but I doubt it. This will probably do it for the year. Love, Samantha +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Montesory at xxx.com Sat Feb 19 19:34:16 2000 From: Montesory at xxx.com (Montesory at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 14:34:16 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #60 Message-ID: <76.1be5f4b.25e04a38@aol.com> In a message dated 2/19/00 1:55:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-sinister-digest at missprint.org writes: > Religion and Lesbians seem to have come up a bit recently, < Dude, Religion and Lesbians have been around since time immortal. JoeySLEE +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From punkboy at xxx.uk Sun Feb 20 10:48:56 2000 From: punkboy at xxx.uk (Stuart Flanagan) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:48:56 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Session In Scotland Request Message-ID: <001101bf7b90$1df89280$c351883e@punkboy.freeserve.co.uk> Honey posted this : The band recorded 2 numbers for Session in Scotland. Isobel sang "Argomenti" - originally recorded by Astrid Gilberto - and it's just beautiful. The second track was The Good The Bad & The Ugly - well it had to be, really! The band included Mick Slaven (Leopards), Bill Wells (collaborator with the likes of Future Pilot and Telstar Ponies), and David Scott (Pearlfishers). Both songs will air on the Session in Scotland on Thursday 2 March (Radio 1, Scotland only, 8 'til 10 pm). I was wondering if any Scottish listees would be willing to record this session on Mini-Disc for me ? Even if you can only make a copy for yourself, I have 2 mindisc recorders, so I can make a copy of yours (if that makes sense). I have various sessions of my own if you'd lkie to trade. Please email me privately Thank you Stuart +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trollopinpaisley at xxx.com Sun Feb 20 13:23:08 2000 From: trollopinpaisley at xxx.com (Georgine Skeene) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 05:23:08 -0800 Subject: Sinister: It Takes a Twee-f**er, to make a village Message-ID: a whole LOT of them, at that. Ian, you are a genius. did i mention that before? Anyway, as to velocity's Village proposal 2000. the village of the FOKKIN' Millenium! (on an annoying note,my adopted home Tempe's former hip avenue-turned corporate slut-baiting Mill Avenue, has awful signs up that say Mill-ENNIUM Avenue. it's so embarrassing) as i was saying, about that idea. i think i would love to draw up a map of the sinister village if we decide how it's gonna be. here are some of my concepts just free associating. I dont' know what i would do. Maybe be a Line Painter. OR i could run Lisa and Chelsea's, the local GRRRL salon and hangout. or be the village caricaturist, like i could sit out on the sidewalk on sunny street fest days, and draw you funny/big-headed on a skateboard for 5 bucks. Sister Disco's Neon Cabaret, open late, after=hours all night disco dancing, and special theater evenings. could be one of the fixtures on the main downtown drag, which would be all old stone craggy buildings and winding alleys, interspersed with the occasional art deco theater spaces or artists lofts. There would need to be a town square, with like gardens and picnic space, and a big community center for holding meetings of stuff like the Looper appreciation society, People for the Advancement of Mick Cooke, and the Dear Diary Recipes and Therapy Bonanza club. Honey Mummy's palacial heart-shaped estate with its eccentric petting zoo and ferris wheel would be at the heart of our residential area, flanked by the 200 Troubled Teenagers Nursery skool and Youth Hostel. Mummy would provide a firm, yet undeniably matronly(and intriguingly feminine), hand of guidance to newcomers and vagabond youths passing through. the downtown drag would be full of hep hangouts like the Treehouse books 'n Java; the Indie Cool Queen new and used Rekkid Shack, sorted by the incomparable christa; the Sticky Railing, the underground club for those who just can't keep their assets to themselves(every thursday Nite, $2 draft and wine and "Seeing Other People's Parts" extravaganza ball); Paula Cullen's Booze x-plosion would be 2 doors down, and sandwiched inbetween, the Dirty Dreams Peep-show palace. Candyfloss Flavour's Sinistre Sweet shop/Les Pastries de la Bourgeousie: a combo sweetshop/bakery cafe; Frumpy! the used/vintage clothing boutique. Flares, quilted jackets, sparkly shifts, yeye wigs and teddy shoes, they've got it all for the teenage population. And down the road a ways, past the fox-riddled wood near the abandoned stone chapel, the Shrine of Our Lady of Tiger Ears. where the worthwhile worship. The Gentle Waves water-park! get out yr bikini waxin' tackle! "Me and the Major's" a gentlemen's club for the gay boys of sinister!! Ooh, there has tobe a copy shop, for all the h**sters to hang out at. I think the really Upscale fashion boutique should be called Mayfly. it just sounds real swank and modern, yet casual. who wants to be the fashion diva? ******************** Awwww fuck! i could go on for days. somebody stop me. velocity...or anyone else...if you like any of my ideas, let me know. tell me where you want to live in sinister-land, and i can put you on th emap. literally! I'm serious. this is like really fun for me. i could totally draw a whole town. that would rock so much ass. Shut up!! at least i'm not out doing drugs and recruuting your impressionable children into a life of fisting hell!! What woudl the hip indie musick club be called? it could be anything really. i mean, we need a rockin space for like magnetic fields and cat power to play when they pass through. and someone to run the zine-stand. Teri?? ?;) stop me before i get nauseating, LJ "Hahahaha....I'm so full of ideas...and here's a good one!!" http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange to the pure, all things are pure--- http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange/buxoms.html ***The Buxoms: Svengali-free since 1998!!*** ______________________________________________________ Sent by FortuneCity Mail at http://www.fortunecity.com Join now and receive 20Mb of free web space and E-mail +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From invisible_boy at xxx.net Sun Feb 20 20:18:55 2000 From: invisible_boy at xxx.net (invisible_boy) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:18:55 -0000 Subject: Sinister: undergone? Message-ID: <001f01bf7bdf$c67764a0$82d1b0c2@oemcomputer> On the train on the way back from Wakefield last night I found a key in an ashtray. No keyring or anything, just a single key on it's own amoungst the Silk Cut stubs. I'm pretty sure it was abandoned intentionally. Its one of those ones that arn't like Yale keys - the long ones. It looks quite old and the "key" bit at the end is like the shadow of a castle turret. I don't really know why but I'm utterly fascinated by keys. when I was younger I used to have a small collection of found and discarded keys I kept in a money bag, along with a minature padlock I'd rescued from somewhere. I have no idea where they are now. Although I do think about it sometimes. There's a lot of symbolism inherant in keys. A means of access, a secutity device, a way into secrets.... Redundant keys even more so becuase their usfulness is reduced to simply being something that feels good in your hand or pocket, but still (if you're me) something it's really hard to part with. I have old keys on my keyring which are no use anymore but if I remove them it'll upset a balance somewhere and I'll feel slightly odd. Like the feeling of suddenly having a really severe haircut, if you can see where I'm coming from. Sorry these are things that occupy a lot of braintime which would probably be better employed elsewhere. Hmmm. With the recent depression / artistic genius thread I thought I'd throw a metaphorical oar in. Has anyone read Prozac Nation by Elizabeth Wurtzel? Essentialy an autobiography documenting a lifetime of depression. Don't want to upset anyone (each to their own) but I really hated it. Perhaps it was theraputic to the author, and I honestly sympathise with anyone suffering from mental disorders (dunno a PC term) of this kind, but really, can anyone enjoy and/or take away something worthwhile from 300 odd pages of what reads like teenage angst? I find a lack of any real emotion in those pages which differentiates it (and this is my point) from people like Ian Curtis, Nick Drake etc. where there is always a real note of optomism, or at least a fight against the oppression and the bad. Ditto for Kesey, Burroughs, Radiohead, Kundera, The Cure and so on. Deep depression is never sexy, it's the fight against it that inspires admiration and maintains my faith in people generally. Please though, I'm really not trying to be infmlamitory. I honestly hope I havn't offended anyone. If I have, mail me and we can talk it out. I worry about my clarity of expression and people taking things the wrong way, easpecially in such an impersonal medium. Incidently, for my top tip on an exellent novel dealing with depression - The Trick is to Keep Breathing, By Janice Galloway. Fiction by classification only. Er..That's it, I think. Believe it or not, it's taken the whole of IYFS and three cans of stella for me to write this. Cripes, and still loads of spelling misstakes. My apologies. Tara. Kev (alias shambles, alias invisible boy, alias biscuit, alias someone-else, alias me) ---- http://www.lost-cat.org.uk/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From colin.mowat at xxx.net Sun Feb 20 22:34:47 2000 From: colin.mowat at xxx.net (Colin Mowat) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 22:34:47 -0000 Subject: Sinister: rattle thrown in the corner but thumb still firmly stuck in mouth Message-ID: <006501bf7bf2$b23ce2e0$5d0e2cc3@default> Sunday 20 February 2000 21:14 OK, thank you Honey for my voice. My first posting is here................ Dear people, My appreciation to you all for the slices of life that I have been allowed to share over the past couple of weeks in the nursery, it's certainly helped me to get through the difficult time I've been having over recent times. I've only been listening to B&S for the past few weeks. As a group, the name had been in my consciousness for the past couple of years, and had rather intrigued me, but I had never heard them and had no idea what there sound was like, having spent the majority of listening time over the last twenty-four years listening to Nick Drake, John Martyn, Tom Waits and 70's Bowie and then later on from 1980 Joy Division and Japan (hey! anyone remember the best album of 1982 on it's first outing - no idea? ABC's The Lexicon of Love). So you've probably worked out that I'm probably considerably older than most (if not all) other list members - I was born in 1963 - can anyone beat that - come on own up!..............Anyway, I digress........so I was in a Virgin Magastore, feeling low and looking for something to listen to, looking through the singles for David Gray and the B&S ticket caught my eye and just in front of it "This is just a modern rock song". So I left Virgin £4.99 less and one EP more. Got home and stuck it on the stereo, not having a clue what I was gonna get through the headphones, and it was good, not brilliant but good enough for me to make a return journey to Virgin the next day and buy Tigermilk and TBWTAS (buy 2 for £20 deal). Got home and put Tigermilk on the stereo and then never got past the first three tracks for the first three days - Expectations is one hell of a song - Ok so I finally got to here the rest of the two albums and that led to Feeling Sinister and the other three EP's and the Bowly set repeated on Radio 1 a week or so ago and all that led me here - from what I've seen so far a place well worth being. So when I manage to get my thumb out of my mouth, I'll write again and tell you how B&S have helped me get over the past few weeks which have seen the the first stage in the culmination of 5 months of pain and tears which has been the disolving of my marriage and a drastic change in my life which I have yet to decided whether I like or not. Until then Rêves sucrés +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Mon Feb 21 04:25:59 2000 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (kinky angel) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 23:25:59 EST Subject: Sinister: toronto goes crazy...with teddy bears Message-ID: <20000221042600.71534.qmail@hotmail.com> oh man, I've had one of the oddest weekends in a long time. it was so filled with naughty little things I'm so happy...and I didn't even have sex. friday night I went to a fetish night. nothing like a bar that gives you a good whipping at the door...heehee. i have never seen so many pairs of tits in my life. the bartender told me I had good whipping technique...my mom is so proud. well, then the weird stuff started happening. diana the cool girl that she is and i met at the liquor store and got on the subway. we got lost...we didn't know when to get off the bus and man, we went right by poor little deb's house. a half hour journey took 2 bloody hours... we finally got there and met another cute little sinister boy from the uk...we had so much fun, and he's from the same area that my family's from. we went to this little bar place and i finally met a listee named alexander. he adopted me my little jean-louis. he's my new little furry friend. i even took him to see a horrible new film...pitch black scared him horribly. but i love him something awful...i've never had a teddy bear before. (oh yeah, i saw a female friend of mine try to write her name in the snow...heehee.) we then went to blow up...this night is a little pretentious but i think our presence made the place really pleasant. we had a lot of fun but the end of the evening got really blurry...someone got lucky and someone was sitting in the snow. well, jean \-louis is looking at me and thinks it's time for bed... good night everyone... angel PS can I run the corner store in the sinister village? PSS i bought some new lube called probe...mmm ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Mon Feb 21 05:38:31 2000 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 21:38:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: pour another glass of wine Message-ID: <20000221053831.5777.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> oh can i please run "Milk&Honey," the cruelty-free ice-cream shoppe which has ice-cream made from milk from our very own cows out in the back yard pasture, lovingly milked by milkmaids honey, jenny, and myself (supervised by miss laura llew, Queen of the Hookers, of course)?? i can Lean Over the counter in my low-cut milkmaid frock to hand customers their cones... got to keep them coming back, you know? mark c., i believe, said, > kristin hersh i swear he did. and that is always a good thing. and mark, aren't you the one always going on about kate rusby? i found a cd of hers at our college radio station, and i wanted to play it, but i didn't know which song would be good. any suggestions? and there is a pic of her in the liner notes. quite a pretty girl. nice set of, um, eyes. oh! content: i played "dave the moon man" on my radio show tonight, and i was reminded that i really do like looper, and if StuD feels he has got to quit b&s in order to keep making loopy music, then so be it. um, yeah. uck. sorry for that painful insertion of content. /me ducks from stones and rotting vegetables. i will say nothing about catholicism and being gay except what the hell did they Think was going to happen when the put all the boys in one school and all the girls in another?? i actually went to a co-ed catholic school. how come i could wear pants (trousers) and the boys couldn't wear skirts, hm? so unfair. um, ree's drinking advice for the week: don't consume an entire bottle of merlot in 3 hours by yrself. this differs from ree's drinking advice from last month, which was don't consume an entire bottle of tropico in 3 hours by yrself. hmmm. i have no tarty stories from the weekend. i woke up fully clothed and alone on saturday morning. whew. general shout-outs and props to jared, a.k.a. paralis, for being Ever Sexy, Ever Tarty, and Ever Leather-Clad. xoxo, ree ===== ************************************************************** "to me she was just marie." -mersault "hearts don't break/ the division is innate" -secret stars eliam at alleg.edu | littlearsonist at yahoo.com | aol IM:LazyJane22 ************************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daftpunk at xxx.au Mon Feb 21 09:29:10 2000 From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:29:10 +0800 (WST) Subject: Sinister: woohoo! Dot review:) Message-ID: Hey there listees! Just writing to tell about my exquisite time I had at BOTH Dot Allison shows! Heavenly indeed! First of all the venue, the Watershed is a gorgeous marvel built over a pond near our state Art Gallery (itself an old and beautiful place). It was constructed just for the Festival of Perth and has all these cool gigantic water pipes with tv screens fitted on them so it looks like people are swimming inside the pipes. Cool huh? They have a nice light show too. The ambiance is laidback and really chilled out-perfect for a Dot Allison show! Only problem was the number of pretentious old farts who attended- most of whom had never heard of Dot (mostly just leftover from watching the previous band -sophisto jazzy Paris Combo) and a lot of whom made noise during her set-BOO! Pete Wiggs from the legendary Saint Etienne did the warm-up and on the first night, he played a new St Et song! The host of the show was obviously a big Dot fan since her days of One Dove, which was very refreshing to see. When she came on, I was amazed that she was so small- she seems so statuesque in her photos! She was wearing a frayed denim skirt and a "porn star" singlet. She was complimented by James Nesbitt on guitar and err someone on keyboards whose name escapes me. From the minute she launched into "Mo Pop" I could tell we were in for something very special indeed. The set she played was way too short-40 minutes and an encore but was transcendental and just so so GORGEOUS! She played two new songs! "Know Glow" (which was the song I didn't know from her KCRW session) and "Strung Out" (which unfortunately I didn't record for some reason-bugger!) and covered a Neil Young song "I believe in you"-all absolutely divine and which bodes very well for her second album. "Did I Imagine You" and "Tomorrow Never Comes" were of course meltingly lovely and "Breakdown" (one of my favourite singles of ALL time) still manages to break hearts so effortlessly after all these years. also took pics of Dot and Pete-hope they turn out well. Afterwards the tables were cleared and the space was made into a dancefloor. Pete Wiggs came on again to play a fantastic set of rare groove, sixties pop and old skool soul and disco. It was really refreshing to hear such music played- mostly it either really bad kitschy 70's-80's stuff (which you get at practically every medical function:() or big beat. He got quite a crowd going- which was also very heartening to see. I know I was dancing up a storm! Didn't get to meet Dot on the first night- but got my "Tomorrow Never Comes" 7inch, "Afterglow" and "Morning Dove White" autographed by her. Also got a signed set list from her-woohoo! The second night was if you can believe it-even more ethereal and delicately beautiful. It's really amazing to think that someone who was involved with all of techno's big movers and shakers (Andy Weatherall, Richard Fearless, err William Orbit etc) could do acoustic so well. This time bootlegged every song except yet again "Strung Out" (uurrgh!) she played exactly the same set of songs but in a different order. But when songs are as crystal perfect as them, who's complaining? On the first night when she came out for an encore she joked that it would be an encore "in the truest sense of the word" and played "strung out" again! Also met a fellow huge Dot fan from England, Mac. Saw him on the first night and again on the second. Guess what???:) Dot came out with her manager and mingled with the crowd! Mac had on his mobile phone, his best mate from England whom Dot promptly spoke to!!! Isn't that just so sweet?:) got her to sign my "mo pop" and "breakdown" singles and her manager was very impressed at how I got a hold of these rare items. (imagine their amazement at how someone from Perth got hold of the "TNC" single!) and guess what ? Dot gave me a kiss on the cheeks! WOOHOO again! don't know how a night could get more perfect than that. I sorta wished I took a pic with her but didn't know if it would be too cheesy-do you think it would have been too cheesy??? Ah well did take another photo of her anyway on stage. Yet again thought of good questions to ask her afterwards- why does this always happen to me? Really wanted to ask about the aborted second album (One Dove) and what direction her new stuff is taking. Well manager gave her email addy and hopefully thru her can get my questions sorted out! Wanted to interview her for friend's fanzine but didn't get down to organizing it. (how would one organize it?) hopefully can conduct internet interview then-wish me luck:) Dot said she hoped to return with her five-piece for the full Dot Allison experience-yay! Pete played another brilliant set yet for some reason to a much smaller crowd (though me and my friends were yet again dancing up a storm). My friend left a note for Pete saying his set was divine and that we couldn't wait for them to return for them to return with Sarah and Bob. He also autographed my bro's "foxbase alpha", "misadventures" and "52 pilot" single, and was also by all accounts, a super-nice bloke. Anyhoo, that's enough from me and my rantings and ravings. I did have a most heavenly time and I can see now why a Dot gig is such a special experience. anyway sorry for absolutely no B&S content at all but gotta run folks! seeya Kin Woo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordiet at xxx.com Mon Feb 21 11:41:26 2000 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: 21 Feb 2000 03:41:26 -0800 Subject: Sinister: The sinister village + some guitar player.... Message-ID: <20000221114126.14056.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From coool_air at xxx.com Mon Feb 21 12:15:42 2000 From: coool_air at xxx.com (Claire Timmins) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 04:15:42 PST Subject: Sinister: my *appearance* on the BB this morning Message-ID: <20000221121542.62611.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey all you hip cats and belly groovahs! I have a claim to make - no a denial, no a refusal of an existence. Oh yes I will get to the point. My life has now no purpose, I live and breathe lecturing in phonetics and phonology. i love it, and pretty soon it will love me. They've taken away my records and my tv... (can anyone get a song out of this?). So my no-purpose life was all of a sudden thrusted into tremendous excitement when I heard that I had appeared on TV this morning with my collection of pencils... Claire Timmins and her 403 pencils. No folks that wasnt me. I would just like to make that clear. Thank you thats all i have to tell you, dont wait up for the rest, love claire* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Mon Feb 21 12:55:05 2000 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 12:55:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Groove is in the heart Message-ID: Hi my lovely plum puddings good news I've broken my Joy Division addiction and can now listen to other music, and it only took a week of listening to only joy div records before I worked out how to stop. It was a beautiful plan, I just bought lots of new music that I've been wanting for a while and then listened to it, I couldn't really afford it but what the hell. It was cool though cos virgin had a 5 albums for 30 pound deal going and there was some good stuff in it. I bought the green fields of foreverland by the gentle waves the looper album scott 4's works project LP a 2 cd set containing 2 corduroy albums and a 3 cd sugarhill records retrospective featuring grandmaster flash, the furious five and melle mel. the gentle waves album is good, well I like it anyway, it's not as good as her stuff done with the whole band behind her 'cos I think she benefits from a better arrangement and fuller soundscapes when everyone is there. the album is good though, just a bit sparse in places. as for the looper one, I'm most impressed, I think stu D benefits from being away from B&S as he has a very different musical vision to them, it's especially noticable on the spoken word tracks that they are much more suited to his loops, samples, and beats than the intrumentals of the rest of the band which were used for century of elvis andspace boy dream. I'm really glad he's left the band, I think he'll do some very worthwhile stuff on his own and I'm looking forward to hearing it. I gueass that while I'm giving these kind of mini reviews I may as well mention the other 3 records. The Scott 4 one is excellent, they have a very folky style but they also mix electronica into it, it's as if a really good folk band had been given a synth and then been forced to listen to Kraftwerk untill they started appreciating it, very nice music indeed. I like the Corduroy as well, I've only listened to ooone of the cd's but it's great, a mixture of chilled out jazz and uplifting jazz, if you like jazz (and I do) then you'll love it. And what can I say about the falsh and the five cd's, all the classic tracks (the message, white lines, adventures on the wheels of steel) mixed in with some slightly more mediocre stuff, well worth a listen to anyone who likes to know where music comes from and indispenable to all hip hop lovers. I had lots of other things to say, comments on all your wonderful posts, etc. but I can't remember a single one so I guess that's it from me. Oh don't forget to get in touch if you wanna go to the ennio morricone tribute in stirling on Saturday the 11th of March stay happy owen oh yeah I just remembered, someone didn't like prozac nation, hmmm I dunno what to say to that, I loved the book and it helped me through a lot and I have nothing but respect for Elizabeth Wurtzel. there's some great comedy moments in there asa well, the accidental blow job for instance. bye (again) owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vibrosheep at xxx.net Mon Feb 21 14:03:38 2000 From: vibrosheep at xxx.net (vibrosheep at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:03:38 Subject: Sinister: Dave the Moomin Message-ID: <200002211404.OAA12942@mailhost.vivao.net> BASS - HOW LOW CAN WE GO ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ So Big Stu leaves the clan to "Concentrate on Looper". Well if "Up A Tree" is anything to go by then lets hope his concentration stretches to realising that all 10 tracks sounded exactly the bloody same. SISTER DISCOS CONVENT OF THE IMMACULATE COLLECTION ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Can I go on the door with the incredibly menacing Kevan Cooke ? "Yer not a POOF, Yer not coming in...Unless you've got a letter from Mummy. CORDS AND STUFF. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sarah poked... >Erica mentioned dragging kids out of cords and trainers and putting >them in three piece suites, I mean three piece suits, I mean, eh? >Posh clothes. Hey, I don't mind you knocking the smarter dressed of us, but when you start poking fun at my sofa and armchairs that's just going a bity too far. OVU +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Mon Feb 21 14:35:26 2000 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?stevie_trouss=E9?=) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:35:26 -0000 Subject: Sinister: krazy muzik, krazy kidz, krazy nites Message-ID: <01bf7c78$e506a180$0300a8c0@g5-200-3> Thanks to Alex Tobin for sending the url for that great interview with the Jeepster organisation. It was a nice change to receive something informative rather than the puerile nappy smut that those brit kids seem to be obsessed with. However, on reading the Alex's piece, I did notice a number of similarities to an interview which appeared last month in the Luxembourg webzine "Krazy muzik! Krazy kidz! Krazy nites!", conducted by Benelux's leading popjourno, Lissom Krek. See for yourselves at : http://www.poetrysoc.com/krazy/krazy.htm Hmmmm Stevie Troussé +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sugarbum1 at xxx.com Mon Feb 21 14:57:15 2000 From: sugarbum1 at xxx.com (Grace Howarth) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:57:15 GMT Subject: Sinister: Wooden spoon sounds Message-ID: <20000221145715.28457.qmail@hotmail.com> Greetings, I've just discovered the woonderfully warm sound that can be made by banging a wooden spoon on the bottom of a pan of porridge. An addictive action really: I could have spent the whole day by the oven, tapping away. But the porridge began to stick to the bottom of the pan so I had to tear myself away and enjoy the almost equal pleasure of consuming a whole pan of the stuff. It's quite odd really, this is my first message to the list, and I guess I should have something more relevant to spurge about than the random music of my kitchen utensils. Still, that's life, and I've never been very good at introducing myself. I'll call it shyness, or shyety or a tendancy towards being shy. Whichever takes your fancy really. Well, greetings, and I hope being on this list warms me towards my new computer which as yet has made no attempt to make me feel at home with its rather large screen. au revoir mes amies Grace ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachel at xxx.uk Mon Feb 21 15:56:16 2000 From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:56:16 -0000 Subject: Sinister: 20 seconds to comply... Message-ID: <000d01bf7c84$51c11980$5995883e@preinstalledco> ...no i have no idea what you're supposed to comply to either, but i'm listening to one of them 'on the floor at the boutique' mix cd's at the mo (it's the lo fidelity allstars one, tres impressive, mostly) and this choooon is hilarious...this guy keeps intoning in all seriousness '20 seconds to complyyyyyyy' in a very scary gladiator-type voice...kind of like when john anderson used to say 'contestants rrrrrreaddy' that kind of macho power thing.... anywaaaaay, it's all been very exciting and political round here this past 7 days hasn't it?? quite refreshing, shame that the week wasn't topped off by a red ken win. although it would be dead difficult for me to boycott stagecoach (their buses get me to school, there is no way i'm walking the 7 mile round trip...mind you not being able to use the bus on principle would be a better excuse than the one about zoe ball i've been trying to fob my teachers off with...3 times now she's failed to wake me up and instead become incorporated into whatever dream i've been having at the time...i've had to switch to five live...), i have been defrauding stagecoach since september by using my expired bus pass...and there is a fair number of forgeries doing the rounds. we're doing our bit! hit them where it hurts...the wallet (where did you think i was going to say???) talking about boycotts, BOYCOTT MORRELLS PUBS. it is a long twisted tale as to why, involving decades of trying to relocate oxford united's stadium, the growth of the blackbird leys estate, an out of date covenant, and requires an awful lot of legal knowledge which i won't bore you with (if you're interested have a look at www.welcome.to/foul or www.rageon.freeserve.co.uk )...but basically oxford united have been rescued from extinction twice over the past 11 years and now it could be third time unlucky...the morrells brewery are threatening legal action against the building of our *new* half finished stadium...if this happens our owner will probably walk out leaving us facing possible expulsion and/or extinction, so BOYCOTT the stupid bastards (they will almost certainly make more money - which is all they seem to care about - out of the stadium going ahead)....i'm sorry for the blatant list abuse but i wouldn't ask if it wasn't important, and judging by the amount of football discussed in chat yesterday i figured enough people might care. the most exciting developments of the week has got to be the sinister village, i was beside myself with the thought of this fantastic, if mythical place (though we could do a castaway 2000, i'm sure channel 4 would fund it)...could i pleeeeease be in charge of the sinister football team?? i don't want to play or anything (well, my lungs don't, i still think i'm a bit nifty on the wing...) but the thought of a board and marker pens and tactical discussions and teamsheets...ooh! but then again i could bring my unique checkout operating/shelf stacking skills to the sini-supermarket, which i think should be located near the chippy and the record shop for ease of access. though i don't know if that would help my financial situation.... i went into town on saturday simply to buy the new all saints and animalhouse singles...i came back with my intended purchases but also another £30 lighter cos that bastard 5 for 30 quid deal in virgin worked it's evil magic on me...honestly, i didn't mean to buy anything else, it just sucked me in...still, nice to see jeepster are represented in this clearout, i spotted the gentle waves (ha ha! though mind you i shouldn't laugh, i bought it at FULL PRICE), and less amusingly, snow patrol...i nearly bought it again cos i could only find 4 cds i wanted, but then i finally decided to go for mercury rev...i like it, but that voice does my head in after a while, really whiny. anyway, have to go and stand in a supermarket now lovin' and leavin' you rachel xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_gibber at xxx.com Mon Feb 21 16:10:48 2000 From: the_gibber at xxx.com (Ian McKinney) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 16:10:48 GMT Subject: Sinister: compulsory report Message-ID: <20000221161048.77106.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear sirs and madams, I have noticed it is the custom to report any B&S-related dreams to the list. In the past I refused to believe such dreams actually occurred, however I had my first one on Saturday night. My and my friend Daragh (long time lurker on this list, incidentally) went to see B&S in the assembly hall of a primary school. The stage was adorned with these bizarre modernist structures of wire and chrome, and the whole stage moved up and down on a huge hydraulic steel pillar. There was a small bar on a balcony that only sold steins of Harp. I bought two at a time, but Nick Cave was there and he kept following me around and stealing my drinks (!). When B&S took to the stage, I noticed that Stuart M was blind drunk and barely capable of performing. He was agressively drunk, in fact, and kept cracking these Bernard Manning-type jokes and insulting the audience. They started playing a new song and it was terrible, and I noticed that my friend Tony had replaced Stuart D on bass. Then I woke up. Ah well. Other TITbits: *Has anyone been drinking agwa? We've been at it constantly for a week. It's a shooter, like Aftershock but slightly less medicinal-tasting. *The video for Dog on Wheels was on Alternative Nation a couple of weeks back. I'd never seen it before. There's stuart m engaging in all manner of unlawful activity, like spraying graffiti on walls and hanging off bridges. The yob. *I must make a musical reccomendation to everybody on the list - Sigur Ros. There was a song of theirs on a free cd with NME two weeks ago, and it was utterly captivating, so I went out the next day and bought their e.p. It is superb. Somewhere between Mogwai and Godspeed, but more sweeping and orchestral. Anyhoo, back to the shadows for another couple of months, Ian ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Mon Feb 21 17:02:45 2000 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:02:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: La boulangerie de la Sinisterie Message-ID: Sinister-village? After our lovey-dovey weekend 'a Paris' and not being able to trace in most of the cases where the crunchy baguettes that every Parisian carries under their arm at lunchtime every day, Boyfriend ***** came up with this wonderful idea : -LET'S OPEN A 'BOULANGERIE' WHICH WILL BE CALLED 'LA PASTIE DE LA BURGEOISIE' The old plan 'what to do the rest of our lives as we cannot stay idle students forever and ever' was also Belle and Sebastian-inspired, though in a more contrived way,let's say.When in Camber Sands, we exchanged to see Looper for enjoying a very,very tasty and delicious cream tea in Rye, realising there was no opportunities to have cream teas in Nottingham to our dismay.So, we were to open a traditional,very British 'salon-du-the', though my Mediterranean accent threaten to spoil the plan to emulate such a Victorian enterprise. No doubt that if you are not Parisian (born or adopted), there is no way to find a boulangerie open,especially on Sunday,and Parisian bakeries are 'la creme de la creme' among bakeries, so ours will be placed in a very exclusive and difficult to find corner in that Sinisterian village to be, only for its inhabitants.No tourists.Tourists are smelly and wear thick,wolly socks matching orthopedic sandals. Boyfriend is much better at baking, so for him the waking-up very early :)), and managing , taxes,accountancy,legal aspects , PR for me. Someone else maybe needed at tills if anyone fancying to apply and thinks will look cute with that funny white thing on the head and inmaculate pram. Shape your future in a Belle-and-Sebastian way. Become a baker! Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Mon Feb 21 17:18:01 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:18:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Dave the Moomin Message-ID: <20000221171801.19336.qmail@web605.mail.yahoo.com> > BASS - HOW LOW CAN WE GO ? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > So Big Stu leaves the clan to "Concentrate on > Looper". Well if "Up A Tree" is anything to go by > then lets hope his concentration stretches to > realising that all 10 tracks sounded exactly the > bloody same. > > Actually, I like looper, and I think the music doesn't all sound the same. Maybe you just accidentally hit the repeat button on your cd player? check it next time. do'h! Idleberry ===== visit the idle site:http://www.geocities.com/idleberry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Mon Feb 21 19:27:58 2000 From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE HENRY DICKIE) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 19:27:58 GMT Subject: Sinister: BOXING UNDER THE COVERS Message-ID: <20000221192758.22308.qmail@hotmail.com> APATHETIC PRINCE MMMMMMMM HI U MUDDY FUNSTERS A WEEK AGO IT WAS VALENTINES DAY YER MMMMMMM CINERAMA'S SINGLE MANHATTAN W A S RELEASED MMMMMMMMM IT HAS A COVER OF THE SMITHS *LONDON* ON IT MMM I THOUGHT MMMMMMMM BEING UNDER THE COVERS WITH A GIRL/ETC WOULD BE NICE BUT A COVER OF A SMITHS SONG WILL DO MMMMMMM IT IS PROBABLY SAFER THIS WAY I WOULDN'T WANT A *GIRL AFRAID* OR A *GIRLFRIND IN A COMA* I HEAR *PREETY GIRLS MAKE GRAVES* AND ANYWAY I'M SURE I CAN *STRECH OUT AND WAIT* A BIT LONGER I DON'T THINK I'M TOTALLY *UNLOVABLE* MMMMMMMMM THIS IS FUN I COULD GO ON BUT I CAN FEEL HONEY'S STICKY FINGES ON MY BACK SO I'LL GET ON WITH WHATEVER I CAME TO SAY MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM YER CINERAMA'S COVER IS ON A SMITHS TRIBUTE LP CALLED *I KNOW IT'S OVER* I HEAR RADIOHEAD R DOING *THERE IS A LIGHT THAT NEVER GOES OUT* MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM YER B&S WERE SUPPOSE TO DO *REEL AROUND THE FOUNTAIN* BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IS HAPPENING MMMMMMM IT IS IRONIC THAT CINERAMA HAVE DONE A SMITHS COVER AS GEDGE NO LONGER LIKES THE SMITHS MMMMMM ANYWAY I'LL LET HIM OFF I HAVE JUST GOT AN ELECTRIC TOOTHBRUSH MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM IT IS GREAT I LOVE TO BRUSH MY TEETH NOW I LOVE THE MMMMMMMMMMMM SOUND IT MAKES I CAN INTERPRET ITS MMMMMMMMMMMM SOUND IT IS TALKING TO ME SO FAR I HAVE LEARNT IT LIKES COUNTRY MUSIC I PLAY GRAM PARSONS AND JOHN DENVER THE TOOTHBRUSH SAYS THAT IT DREAMS OF BEING A FIDDLE IN A COUNTRY BAND MMMMM SO I ALWAYS PUT ON SOME COUNTRY WHEN I BRUSH WE HAVE FUN MMMMMMMMM TALKING OF GP THERE IS A GRAM PARSONS TRIBUTE LP OUT YER I HEAR IT HAS SOME GOOD COVERS MMMMMMM THE RED HOUSE PAINTERS R SUPPOSED TO BE DOING A COVERS LP OF JOHN DEVER SONGS SHOULD BE GOOD I LOVE THE RED HOUSE PAINTERS WHEN R THEY GOING TO BRING A NEW RHP LP OUT???? I NEED THEM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM OF COURSE RHP DID A COVER OF THE WINGS CLASSIC I SILLY LOVE SONGS L MMMM VERY GOOD O V BUT I THINK MY FAV E COVER K IS WILLIAM SHATNER (YER THE GUY IN STAR TREK) I HE DOES A GREAT R COVER S OF MR TAMBOURINE MAN T Y MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM BEAUTIFUL W A MY BOXING GYM R IN THE SINISTER VILLAGE K IS READY FOR ACTION THANKS VELOCITY I HAVE A RING AND ALL THAT BOXING STUFF COME IN AND PLAY ABOUT I'LL BE IN THE CORNER PLAYING TWISTER IF U WANT ME MMMMMMM THIS TALK OF LESBIANS ETC IS GOOD NEWS I STILL HOLD HOPE FOR A LESBIAN REVOLUTION YER MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM IT IS A LONG TIME AGON NOW BUT I HAVE SEEN PART 3 OF THE BIRDSEYE MICROWAVE MEAL ADS BASICALLY THE MOTHERS BOY IS DOING A MICOWAVE MEAL FOR HIS GIRLFRIEND AND SHE ASKS WHAT IS IN IT AND HE SAYS CHICKEN BREASTS IN A LOUDER VOICE WHILST LOOKING AT HER BREASTS SHE COVERS HERSELF UP AND THE BOY LOOKS ASHAMED MMMMMMMMM YER I LIKED IT DID I EVER TELL U THAT MY FRIEND WAS NEARLY THE MILKYBAR KID??? MMMMMMMMMMM SO CLOSE TO FAME THE MILKYBARS WERN'T ON HIM MMMM SHAME ****ALL THAT WE HOPE IS WHEN WE GO OUR SKIN AND BLOOD AND OUR BONES DON'T GET IN YOUR WAY MAKING U ILL THE WAY THEY DID WHEN WE LIVED OH THERE IS A PLACE A PLACE IN HELL RESERVED FOR ME AND MY FRIENDS AND IF EVER I JUST WANTED TO CRY THEN I WILL BECAUSE I CAN**** - MORRISSEY LOVE AND ELECTRIC TOOTHBRUSHES ALL ROUND *GHD* PS. THE CURE'S NEW LP IS FAB ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From apytmw at xxx.uk Mon Feb 21 19:59:19 2000 From: apytmw at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 19:59:19 -0000 Subject: Sinister: the wicked wurtzel of the west Message-ID: I was wondering through the bookshop one fine day, trying to decide what to buy. I knew that something was missing in my life, but I couldn't quite put a finger o it. Then it hit me.... 'I know what I need!', I cried, much to the astonishment of the other browsers in the shop. I rushed to the counter, and explained to the spotty boy sat there; 'I'm looking for a book which is way too long, written by a Sylvia Plath wannabe, which charts her life in a totally uninteresting way and which is guarenteed to leave me feeling really shit afterwards' 'Why certainly', replied the spotty boy, 'we have just the book for you...' he lead me to the 'shite fiction' section, and found me a copy of Prozac Nation by the Wortzul... it was perfect. 'And in buying this', he reassured me, 'you're helping the silly cow make EVEN MORE PROFIT out of her own depression'. Wow... what a concept. Love, Mark xxxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox at xxx.com Mon Feb 21 21:19:17 2000 From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 21:19:17 GMT Subject: Sinister: pratiquer les lignes a la boulangerie Message-ID: <20000221211917.39909.qmail@hotmail.com> - Bonjour. Je cherche du pain. - Mais de quelle sorte? - Je prefere le pain long. - Ah, bon; on peut manger des baguettes toute la semaine et on ne devient pas gros. That kind of thing. Bebel fans please correct the grammar if you find you've eaten a sentence that doesn't agree with itself. But the question is, bread. White French bread, like this B&S Arantxtxa bakery in Wye-on-Trent is going to be selling. *Does it make you fat?* We need to know, and hier. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GBCH at xxx.uk Sun Feb 20 02:40:45 2000 From: GBCH at xxx.uk (Chris_t_opher) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 02:40:45 -0000 Subject: Sinister: "We respect his right not to have sex." References: <200002151514.PAA26212@missprint.org> Message-ID: <001b01bf7cbf$8e9e4cc0$0535883e@gsh> What's the first thing you do when you open the door in the morning? Me, i check for low-flying birds. Hewo fair weathered friends Right now, im watching someone swallow razor blades. "Why?", you may ask. Bcus he can, duh! Oh and now he's eating a glass. "Clever lad!", i hear you say Speaking of clever lads, there's a boy on "15-to-1" called Nick. I just think he'd get on very well with Stu M. You'd understand if you saw him. Michele was telling us before about her mIRC stalker. I was just thinking how much fun it would be to be a stalker or stalkee. Being a stalker, you dont really care about anything 'cept following one person. You could even perfect the art of stalking! And i'd love to be flattered by having my own personal stalker! Ok, so on a daily basis, it could annoy, but if you step back, you'd just feel so warm inside. I'm trying to think of something to write about B+S but it's very difficult. Stu's left, people dont mind. I dont care (being lazy et al) either way. It's just annoying about the vox position. Anyway, it's good to see Chris Geddes has a healthy sense of humour! AND NOW A BADLY LAGGING COMMENT..... And this isnt directly to Baby Chris cos he's probably very sick of reading or has unsubbed for a month's reclusion. I was just wondering what Catholisism (sic probably) had to do with Clause 28. Catholics (or any religion for that matter) don't run all schools, so why should the ideals of one religion apply to everyone? Christianity is dying a very quick death and i say "Good Riddance". So i dont think any Christian beliefs should govern legislation like they have done. From the people i know from school, i'd say 15% have any substantial knowledge of the Bible and even less actually care about what it tries to teach. So i'm just wondering why stupid Religion-based laws still get used. Gawd i wish i was better at argueing but i'm not so naaah! (i'll come around and beat you instead :)) [This is severely out-of-date but i dont care. It might make sense or maybe it's already been dealt with. I'm lazy so i havent checked] [You Notice i managed to keep the *G* word out of that comment? That's so Honey doesnt say anything to me :) ] Did you know Black Eyed Dog by Nick Drake was recorded just before he died? Someone told me a while ago and everytime i hear that song, i feel this emotion that i havent been able to identify. I'll keep you all informed. Chris_t_opher - King of Christians PS. Starry, your mind scares me! PPS. Erica went to Spring Harvest! HAHAHAHAHAHA. I've got a fat christian friend who goes to that so we laugh at him. Atheist, me? Nahhhhh +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Tue Feb 22 01:37:35 2000 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 20:37:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: pratiquer les lignes a la boulangerie, mais pas des lignes blanches In-Reply-To: <20000221211917.39909.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Cher Sinistre, On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, P F wrote: > > - Bonjour. Je cherche du pain. > - Mais de quelle sorte? > - Je prefere le pain long. > - Ah, bon; on peut manger des baguettes toute la semaine et on ne devient > pas gros. > > That kind of thing. Bebel fans please correct the grammar if you find > you've eaten a sentence that doesn't agree with itself. But the > question is, bread. White French bread, like this B&S Arantxtxa > bakery in Wye-on-Trent is going to be selling. *Does it make you fat?* > We need to know, and hier. Not at the rate of one baguette per week. Especially at the end of the week when it gets really stale and you have to expend extra energy chewing and digesting. That's the advantage of it being so airy and not having fat, animal or vegetable or mineral (huh?), added to it. Ca ne fait que 15 francs la semaine. Faisons des economies. So in addition to being rail thin, you will have extra lunch money to buy your favorite glossy magazines at the end of the week and dream of being even thinner so that Stuart might not notice that you are in the bath with him. (Oh, that's only my fantasy - then I've got a long way to go.) Comet Gain did turn out to be good, though typically indie-sounding. Why is there a picture of John McKeown on the inside of the CD sleeve and why did he play guitar on 6 songs if he hates American bands like Pavement? Why? Oh why? But I love the way he plays guitar. And the Tindersticks entirely deserve all the good things said about them. They're serious! Ah, I knew it was going to be this way but I had to wait until I was really in need of salvation. Talk about being superficial. It amuses me that such a wee lad like Chris is into such deep, elemental music. And it's also on the record that Andy Dean and Tim Hopkins witnessed the cover of "Reel around the Fountain" in Glasgow/Edinburgh 2 1/2 years ago (Jeepster press archives). And who had the nerve to suggest that Andy Bell could be a stand in for our Stuart? Yours, Youn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Tue Feb 22 02:26:41 2000 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 21:26:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: pratiquer les lignes a la boulangerie: an unimportant correction Message-ID: Not because I am a pedant but because I don't want PF to be unfairly put to shame before all of French-speaking sinister, the addition of "mais pas des lignes blanches" with "des" instead of "de" was my fault. Sorry! I'll be quiet now. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GardeningAtNight at xxx.com Tue Feb 22 02:58:21 2000 From: GardeningAtNight at xxx.com (GardeningAtNight at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 21:58:21 EST Subject: Sinister: yellow four-fingered struan? doh! Message-ID: christopher said: << Did you know Black Eyed Dog by Nick Drake was recorded just before he died? Someone told me a while ago and everytime i hear that song, i feel this emotion that i havent been able to identify. I'll keep you all informed. >> If the date on the album is correct, then it was recorded the same time as Voice From the Mountain, Hanging From a Star, and Rider on the Wheel. February of 74 I think. Which is a shame because those are some of my favorites of his. I feel that sort of emotion too. I can't imagine him as ever being a real person for that reason, I think. It's just like an old legend told over and again. Tonight while engaged in my ritual of watching the Simpsons (two episodes back-to-back every night, which is a dream come true) Homer and his friends made it to the Superbowl. After Dolly Parton busted them out of Superbowl jail they snuck into Rupert Murdoch's private glass box thing and ate all his food. And then Rupert came back and made policemen appear out of a cloud of smoke to chase them out of the room. Homer yelled "Murdoch!" when he ran away so now I'm always going to associate Stuart M. with magically appearing policemen. Which isn't so bad, it's just kind of odd. But somehow I think that B&S would fit in well on an episode. I really need to get out more, before I actually start writing a B&S episode. Samantha +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trollopinpaisley at xxx.com Tue Feb 22 03:10:44 2000 From: trollopinpaisley at xxx.com (Valerie Solanas) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 19:10:44 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Antique Roadshow is Bloody Grate!!! Message-ID: <439F1703BC8E3D11787100807CFB3258@trollopinpaisley.fcmail.com> yo, wisteria is good for the soul. i discovered this mysterious violet spray of blossom that hangs off a rather large woody green shrub by the tennis courts, they waft a minty yet lavendery fragrance far ahead of their actual location, and are really beautiful. i have one in the glass of water by my window, my whole room smells like it now, and i discovered that is in fact, probably wisteria. i'm rather pleased. having never actually seen any before. Seeing new flowers is very exciting to me. So yes, velocity and christa and i are quite pumped about planning the sinister village. yes, we can have a sport and track and field area, somewhere probably near the town square/picnic centre, so set up your teams and get practicing! and i think we'll need lots and lots of wisteria in the gardens, yes oh yes, and some forsythia, bouganvillea, lilac and most definitely snowballs, which have another real name which i stupidly can't think of at this moment, but you know what they look like? and lots of briar creeping wild roses and blackberry thickets in the fox-park by the church where the old stone bridge goes over a crickly creek, and a mysterious white roebuck is rumoured to haunt the foggy dawn therein. Who wants to be the Sinister gardener and botanist??? Plant plenty of Pansies!! yes, yes, yes. we should have a center of operations to compile everyone's ideas for the village plan, i have some collected, and we can pool our minds together. then i'll draw up the map, and whatever. wouldn't it be cool if we were resourceful enough to have a thing like geocities, only it's sinisterville, with different neighborhoods and an online indie rekkid shop and stuph like that? and virtual pastries and adult novelties and icecreams. Oh yes, marie, please PLEASE feel free to use your assets to sell icecreams. it will keep *me* coming back, if no one else. and that's no lie. disco petermiller, my secret daddy, said: >Is this Morricone tune Isobel did one of those heavy breathing female la la la things? Hope so, they awaken my libido. You and i both. i think we all would benefit from those hours of potential pleasure. oops, i'm getting ahead of myself here, i should probably skip out before i mess up my keyboard. it would be pretty lame if the keys ended up all sticky like. i have to go and think about the slow version of seeign other people........aaaa speaking of aaaa, i saw a Britannica promo where Lili Taylor is talking about her cats. She's so cute, and she has cats too! it's not fair. sigh... There is a shop on mill avenue called Lotions and Potions. i think we should have one in sinister village. it sells candles and soaps and oils and stuff like that. i'm going to scan in the photo of the sign and send it to mummy, i think it's amusing. yes, Casarotto did mention Kristin Hersh, and the Lord doth look upon casarotto, and see that he is Good. For Kristin Hersh is Good. pretentious arsehole, LJ http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange/buxoms.html ***The Buxoms: Svengali-free since 1998!!*** ______________________________________________________ Sent by FortuneCity Mail at http://www.fortunecity.com Join now and receive 20Mb of free web space and E-mail +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Tue Feb 22 05:09:30 2000 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 21:09:30 PST Subject: Sinister: You look like a piece of birthday cake, dear! Too bad everyone's had a piece... Message-ID: <20000222050930.62714.qmail@hotmail.com> Oh! I must say that I'm quite excited to be in charge of the bookshop in Sinister Village. When Honey suggested that we all move to a farm, I got put in charge of the milk maids (since I grew up on a farm and was the only one who knew anything about milking.... cows.) The bookshop seems to be a lot more subdued and more suited to me anyway. Instead of marking books with "Oprah's BookClub" stickers there would just be "Laura Literary List" markers on the book. Yes, very nice indeed! I was thinking that I'd have a HUGE religion section right across from a GIGANTIC homosexual section. Maybe make the aisle a bit small. That way people looking at the opposite sides would have to brush into each other. I'd put it close to the door so that if anything got out of hand I could shoo them into the town square for a nice row. I wonder if there are any Southern Baptists or Jehovah Witnesses in this village? (They seem to be everywhere else...) From what I've seen, they're better at bible bashing and full out heated religious wars than others (though I must say that Mormon missionaries are by far the *cutest*. BTW, I must say that Christopher was dead wrong about Christianity dying a very quick death. 2,000 years in the making and it's not going anywhere soon. Sorry to disappoint you, old pal.) Who says a bookshop can't be a place of excitement too? But I shall need help you know. *Posts a "now accepting applications' sign* If there is a beauty shop, I think it should called "Curl up & Dye." This was the name of one on some crappy Julia Roberts movie (didn't realize one of those existed, didja?) I saw the other night. Really, I've seen better film on teeth. I had to wait until after midnight to send this post because the main reason I'm writing is to wish MARIE ELIA a very HAPPY BIRTHDAY. Yes, sinister children, today is Ree's 22nd birthday! I've always thought that she was one of the loveliest lasses of Sinisterville. Never have I encountered such foul mindless perversity! I wonder if she's ever considered a career in politics? No, really, she's wonderful! This isn't just because she's dark headed and from the eastern US (a sure sign of greatness indeed). But she also has great taste in boys -- Blake (very dreamy) and Paralis Jared (who said, "My parents don't wear enough leather for my tastes." If I ever make a list of things that I never want to see, I believe that my parents in leather will be at the top of that list. But whatever floats your boat, Jared.) Not only that but her posts are always chalked full of smut and other great things. To prove this point, I went back in the archives and picked out my top 5 Marie Elia moments. 5-- "Anyway, how did i spend my saturday night, if not listening to mercury rev/sparklehourse, like i shoulda been? Well, a trip to Barnes & Noble, of course... Thirdly, i hereby recommend The Little Prince (anotine du sainte exupery -- i'm sure i spelled that wrong." {Note: This was before either the Literary List or my sinister bookshop so Marie is absolved by not 'taking advantage' of either one of these. FYI, it's Antoine De Saint-Exupery with an accent over the e in the last name. A good quote from that book is, "And now here is my secret, a very simple secret: It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye.") 4-- "But they gave me a purple lollipop, and who can be upset with a lolli in her mouth? (erm, yeah...)" 3-- "Sarah, your fish is begging to be called Shaft. Easy as that. Ain't no mo-fo in the fishbowl going to mess with him with a name like that. But I'd advise keeping the lady fishes away, you know what I mean?" 2-- "Oh, and tinky-winky made his way in there about 3 times!" {*Laura Llew blushes* Don't ask me what she was talking about there....} and the number one excerpt from Marie Elia's posts is....... 1-- "(although i CAN crochet -- oh geez, i'm so cool, yeah?)" {Notice knone of that knasty knitting is mentioned, eh?} Anyway, here's to most charming, loveliest girl Marie! Of course, if someone were having a seizure in her bathtub, she'd throw in her laundry... Love & a Jim Croce mix tape Laura PS- I have used all of my now very limited computer time writing this post. So, if I owe you an e-mail or a diatribe on Tristam Shandy, a thousand apologies. And *tight hugs that leave you breathless* to the boy who introduced me to ennuni & called me an old woman. hehe. You couldn't get rid of me so easily. *sticks out her tongue* ****** -Go look at all the hard work the ever witty and brillant Jan Imgrund puts forth into making LL's Lovely Literary List: http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/litlist.htm - Don't give into Amazon! Support your local bookshop or independent ones on the web like http://www.seekbooks.com/default.asp?storeurl=PoorRichards "When I die, I want to go peacefully and quietly in my sleep like my grandfather did - not screaming and shouting like the passengers in his car at the time." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From modpopstar at xxx.com Tue Feb 22 05:56:21 2000 From: modpopstar at xxx.com (Leyla McNickle) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 21:56:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: "How Does it Feel To Feel?" Message-ID: <20000222055621.22754.qmail@web306.mail.yahoo.com> hello sinister kids of the world... This post will be a Sarah-less post. Doing this one on my own... At the moment, I am trying to finish a paper...that I completley forgot about. :( Hopefully I can do somewhat of a good job, but in return I will have bloodshot eyes and be in a bad mood for the next day. I NEED MY SLEEP S L E e P AWAKE! So. This weekend I saw the Acid House for the first time. The movie was pretty good, but not exactly what I had expected. Thought I must admit...Sarah and I got a bit giddy when "Slow Graffiti" was playing... beautiful. The funniest thing about the film was probably that it was subtitled! The English language being subtitled for an english speaking audience, how bizzare! Suppose it was the thick scottish accents that would give american audiences problems, and also the slang terminology. It sure was a joy to see translations of many naughty words put up on the screen. Tee-hee. I would like to say that the movie made me frightened of Scottish people..for a moment..and then I got over it. :) Personally, I would like to see Maribou Stork Nightmares turned into a movie...crazy. Wendsday will be an interesting day. For my major at university I have to go to a school and observe a teacher for a whole day. Originally I had planned on going back to my old high school...but when I thought about it...I was frightened of the place. Instead, I will be going to observe at a Middle School, where the kids range in age between eleven and thirteen. I walked into the school today to scheule an appointment...and for a moment I felt like I was 13 and back in school there again. I went to the Principals office...and for some strange reason...I was nervous...just like the time when I got called to his office for writing a nasty note to my busdriver..but thats another stupid story.. Anyhow! I approached the desk..and a young boy with a squeaky voice was on the telephone trying to convince his mother that he was sick and needed to be picked up from school early. Reminded me of my days at that school.. trying to get my mother on the phone...to rescue me from the facist 12 year olds that always harassed me.. FACISTS! I swear. Anyhow, I am going back to that school with a new life, a new purpose..and yet I am still afraid. As long as the kids dont call me ugly hair girl, lesbian, bitch, and try to kick the shit out of me...I think I will be fine. I will just have to remember...these are not the same kids you went to school with, and refrain from yelling "Who has cool hair now, fuckers!!" or possibly chasing them down the halls trying to shove them in the toilets instead...facist bastards. AND i am not a REDCOAT! AND I DO NOT SACRAFICE CATS AND I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THE LESBIAN GYM TEACHER. Oh, im sorry. Flashbacks. Now, I am a professional...and things will be different. I've grown. :) AND Finally. To Mark of Tigermilking fame. You are a brave man for having an event while Sarah and I are town...you have no idea.... anyhow, if you can give me a time and a location...you will be garunteed a visit... hey we might even throw in some arse dancing.. Also looking forward to meeting some of the sinister kids, we will be in touch soon... here is hoping that I don't get gum thrown in my hair.. look whose the cool one now.... leyla ===== http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pavilion/4941/ ******************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alex at xxx.uk Tue Feb 22 09:06:40 2000 From: alex at xxx.uk (pulped | AP Tobin) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:06:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: krazy? not half... Message-ID: thanks to s. troussé for submitting that piece on my jeepster profile. i write for a webzine called 'the kinda muzik you like', which has been around for around a year. it's quite interesting to have read something that was posted last month, with almost identical questions! i came up with my questions on my own, along with the opening paragraph, and it does indeed seem to be all too similar for my taste. compare: http://www.kindamuzik.net/labels/jeepster.shtml and http://www.poetrysoc.com/krazy/krazy.htm hmm, now as i don't really like it even being associated with a potential rip-off and my work is original, here - and i'm really sorry to post all of this - is jeepster's reply to me, dated 16 february: > AP Tobin wrote: >> >> david, here are a few questions for the label profile feature. feel free to >> add anything at your leisure... >> >> 1. Why did you choose to name your label Jeepster? Does it come from the T >> Rex song? > > The name Jeepster was chosen by Stef (one of the founders). It does come from > the > T-Rex song. The idea being that it sounded like a person and something you can > relate to rather than a corporate entity, as well as reflecting the music we > listen to. > >> 2. How would you describe the Jeepster Sound? What are the qualities you >> look for when signing artists to the label? > > Alternative/Pop? We generally go for good song writing skills, prolific > creativity > with the intrumentation and a unique vocalist. > >> 3. If they weren't signed already, is there any band you'd love to snatch >> up without hesitation? > > Quite a few actually, The Super Furry Animals are the first that come to mind. > But > then also Beck, Bjork, Grandaddy, Blur, The Prodigy, Flaming Lips, we could go > on > for days :) there's no point being in this business if you don't still love > music. > >> 4. Jeepster is a relatively small and independent label. How important is >> the make-up and position of the label to you? Is independence and size a >> major factor in the label's philosophy? > > Independence is integral to the way we work, small is beautiful. Although we > can > see the label growing into the future being small at the moment is very good, > with > only 4 full time members of staff there are no internal communication problems > and > we can make decisions and act on them very quickly. > >> 5. What - in short - is the history of Jeepster? How did it come about? > > Mark had become bored and frustrated with working for major record companies > for > 15 years, and Stef had worked in the city for that time. When Mark finally > left > the majors with the dream of starting his own company (in which he would > finally > have the ability to sign the bands he loved and work on them in a way that > reflected the music and wasn't just part of a rigid marketing strategy), Stef > agreed to come onboard with him and invest in the startup of the company. Both > Stef and Mark's friendship had developed from going to gigs through the > previous > years, and here at last was the chance to put out records that were of the > same > quality and diversity as the ones that their friendship had grown from. > >> 6. The internet is rapidly changing the way people consume and listen to >> music. How important is this new technology to you, and do you have any >> plans to use this medium in different ways? > > It's incredibly valuable to us. We don't work on records in a traditional way, > we > have no rule book dictating how to make and sell a record. And because of our > size, we can't compete with a major record labels million pound advertising > campaign. As a result we have put everything into finding the best way to let > the > people who buy our records know about our records. It just follows through > that > the best way to do this is not to wallpaper the streets with posters but to > give > the information directly to the fans and to help provide the services that > enable > the fans to get in touch with other fans and grow the fan base from the grass > roots. We will continue to push the boundaries of what is possible > (technically > and creatively) and continue to ignore the rules on how to do things. We > create > music for people, and we'll continue to use technology to let people know > about > it, be this through internet radio, wireless area protocol, digital > distribution, > or a fanzine element to the websites. > >> 7. What does a typical day at Jeepster Central look like? > > Well the office is a permanent mess, merchandise covering the floor, paperwork > all > over the deskspace, the walls cluttered with posters. We all use computers and > the > internet a lot, so our desks are dominated by them. In between fits of > laughter, > cups of tea and generally taking the piss out of each other we get a > surprising > amount of work done. It's a simple 'heads down' ideal, providing the work is > done > quickly and to a high standard, then everything else if just fun and play and > helps to keep the atmosphere electric. > >> 8. Aside from CD releases, a good deal of your records come out on vinyl. >> How important is vinyl to you? > > Most of the bands love of vinyl has encouraged us to continue to release > records > on vinyl. But there is no doubt that the format is sadly dying. We'll continue > to > put out records for as long as they can cover their own costs as there's still > no > beating the sheer experience of getting a new record, removing it from the > slip, > and dropping the needle onto it for the first time. Records are very personal > items, moreso than a CD, it remembers the time you scratch it and that becomes > part of the character of your particular piece of vinyl, you really can't > surpass > it for emotional attachment. That is something that digital media neutralises > too > much. > >> 9. When releasing a record, how important is packaging to you, combined >> with the music on the disc? Is there a Jeepster look? > > Again, this is an artist led decision. We try to give them full creative > control > and merely advise on feasibility and production angles. Jeepster is about > putting > out great music, the finer details like design should be part of the artistic > process of creating music, we're here to enable it and not dictate it. > >> 10. Have you ever thought about branching out into other areas such as >> books or video? > > Not really, we're a record company, we don't want to be the next virgin and > have > planes, trains and crap soft drinks or other types of media empires. We're > very > happy putting out the best music that we can and sticking to what we believe > we > know, thank you very much :) > >> 11. What does the future hold for Jeepster? > > Who knows? We're going to continue what we're doing, continue to believe in > the > music and place that first. We're quite humble about what we've achieved and > we're > not aiming to be the 'biggest record label in the world' or anything. It's the > old > cliché, we're happy with what we're doing, we love the music, and providing it > manages to pay the rent for the bands and ourselves, then we want to do this > forever, anything else, is just a bonus :) > > > > > > hope all of that is helpful alex :) > > david > > +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ > jeepster own my soul > > david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd : http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ > mailto:david at jeepster.co.uk : icq 28483699 : mobile 07930 116 705 > po box 14153, london sw11 4xu, uk > > to subscribe to the news mailing list mailto:majordomo at jeepster.co.uk > with 'subscribe news' in the body of the message sorry to post all of that, but i'm a bit livid really. god knows how the other article could've been published last month, unless it was backdated. or is someone taking the piss? please do tell me that's what it is! cheers, alex http://www.pulped.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alex at xxx.uk Tue Feb 22 09:58:04 2000 From: alex at xxx.uk (pulped | AP Tobin) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:58:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: krazy again... Message-ID: ok ok, i've settled down now and i've read the whole KRAZY!!! interview. nice one, trousers! you actually had me going there for a minute. to many people, jeepster isn't quite indie enough. fair game to them, but i'm just trying to find a label or two who'd be interested in something like this, that's all. if anyone knows one... let me know. parody is a sincere form of flattery indeed. or something like that. i'll shup up now. cheers, alex http://www.pulped.co.uk 100% spoof-proof +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Tue Feb 22 12:53:29 2000 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:53:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: DoN't CrY bAby... It'S oNlY a mOviE!* Message-ID: <20000222125329.2030.qmail@web3005.mail.yahoo.com> hi there my strawberry tarts... I've missed you all... I've DJed on Friday night... it was horrible! I mean it was OK for a while and then things got out of control as some of my friends kept jumping on the wooden floor and made the needle jump on my V I N Y L S and then, I don't know how, some drink was spilled on my Tigermilk LP... thank God, it wasn't serious and the LP ended up in my untidy sink with some dirty plates and cups... but it recovered now... S I was so happy to see that you all liked V I my idea... I N L I still, I have some re-arrangements to make L S A T due to your own requests... G E I R here we go... O! Peter Miller wrote: > I'm in charge of the disco, am I? In that case, it's going to be like a Spanish disco, the girls can get in free, but the boys have to pay. And it's going to be shaped like a boat. And there's no indie allowed.Just Krautrock.< well, what do you think about that? I mean for me it's OK for girls not to pay and a disco to be shaped like a boat... but Krautrock? Jesus!!! reminds me of some sort of green salad or something... I had a proposition from Paula Cullen (I think) for Peter to run the sInIsteR pORnO sHoP instead... so, peter, what do you think? I'm very happy to say that Paula would be delighted to run the LiQuoR StOrE for us... YEY!!! Lesley Jo - Oh I love your enthusiasm!!! - you haven't told me what store you'd like to run though you'd mentioned some store called LotIoNs & PotIoNs with soaps and oils etc... would you like to run it L.J? and give beauty advices as well? I would like to have Alexander Borgia as the sinister village's official StOrRyteLlER by the way the extracts from Maurice Bear's Diary were excellent, Alexander... I think Jason Luther... you should be in charge of the sinisterian KinDeRgArtEn I think you'd be great with kids... we are going to have kids aren't we? Sarah Clarke... Sarah.. Paula said you should be the CoUrt JeStEr would you like that? in sinister village like in ancient times court jesters would be highly honoured residents... Baby Chris... I'd love to cheer you up... I think you should be the sinister's GaRdeNeR in charge of all the gardens and you'll be famous all over the world for your magnificent dark violet black RoSeS kinky Angel... I think you wanted to be in charge of a cute CoRneR ShoP what will you sell? and... do you want any assistants? I think Kev the invisible boy should run the KeY ShoP and he'll be specialised in making the key of happiness for that cause he'll be co-operating with Owen the Wizard to create the magic magic portion for that key... and then they'll handed up to our Honey the Mayor!! Georgine... will you be our UrBaniSt? we definetelly need one! Lesley Jo is great in that too I think... Erica said she wants to run the SwEet sHoP... I think it's a waste since the girl's definetelly got THE style but... whatever you want Erica... I can be your assistant... as far as we can wear our silver skirts!! Fergus Noodle... would you like to be the SiniSteR PoStMan that way you'll get over your "postal fears" and you'll know whether you have a letter or not before anyone else... ace, huh? P.F. I think you should be the sinister's hoRolOgiSt My dearest Rachel wants to run the sinister FooTbAll TeaM yer, that'd be grate! and tell me Rachel, what colour the players shorts and shirts would be? and who wants to be a football player? applications to Rachel, please........ Marie Elia... first of all HaPpY BiRtHdaY!!! and then, yes, it'd be grate to run this MilK & HoNeY ice-cream ShOp my mouth's foaming even as i think about it.... MMMMMM Yummie!!! Jordie Trenzano will you be the first DiCtAtOr in the history of human race that all the people would really love? with anarchistic ideals and you'll have to wear this stylish uniforms and everything and you'll promote the dictatorship of the sinisterian proletariat... and by the way I'd like to dedicate you a song... "I love a man in a uniform" by Gang of Four... Arantxa... will most certainly run le BoUlAngEriE de la SiniSterie mmmmm... fresh baked bread and pretzels and cookies and Arantxa in her apron... and with a baker's hat... the whole sinister village will be pushing and kicking out of your bakery's door... I'm very happy that Laura wants to run the bookstore and publishing house of the sinister village... I think we can trust her with whatever she wants to publish... thinking about it... who wants to run the "sinisterboy" and the "sinipenthouse"? we should have mags like that or not? my opinion is that we shouldn't... but it's up to you guys... It's gonna be a PoP! AnArcHY anyway... I had another suggestion from Paula again, i think... Mark Cassarotto should run our local DiScOtEqUe instead of Peter Miller who'd run the porno shop... what do you think Mark?? My dearest Jarkko wants to run the sinister PuB and be the DJ and you know what? He's gonna play all those songs that make you feel funny in your tummy... I'm looking forward to that... --- < --- @ Carsmile Steve will definetelly be the PuB QuiZ OrgAnIsER and slap in the face the ones who give wrong answers... For that reason a lot of sensitive sinister souls will have to be committed to the local MeNtAl HoSpiTaL so... we need a loving, caring soul to run it... any ideas? GEORGE HENRY... YER... THE BOXING GYM'S R E A D Y AND WAITS FOR YOU ALL... I'D LIKE TO BE TAUGHT SOME KICK BOXING FROM MASTER GEORGE H I M SELF PLEASE.... CAN I KICK IT...?? YES YOU CAN... Talking about kicking... we need someone to run the MaSsAge ThAng and treat our aching bones and bruises with tender loving sinister hands... Mmmmmmmmmmm interesting... who will do that? Applications please....... NoW!!! have to dash... Imagine... I'm at work now... Oh, I forgot.. as lots of you know I live in Greece... yer right... in a place by the sea... talking and reading about the sinister village gave me that idea... maybe we won't have our sinister village soon... but why not having a late spring-early summer gathering here? it's cheap and sunny... think about it.... I'd love to have you all here... the most amazing thing is that nearby here is the mountain of Pelion, the mountain of centurions.. and there are some old villas there that we can rent really cheap... anyway... it was just an idea...I mean we'll all go somewhere for holidays, right? why not here? OK... I'm going now.... Love + mountain villas V.F. XXX O PS: belle & sebastian... are going to give free gigs in the village's picnic place... we'll all lie down under the sun - for those who have pale & sensitive skin there are going to be trees with fab fat shade - and will be listening to them gapsmacked...what do you think about this word now... I'd use another one, something like fishopenmouths but anyway.... and then we'll all go to jarkko's pub and get totally pissed... YEY!! ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Tue Feb 22 13:32:10 2000 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 05:32:10 PST Subject: Sinister: shell-shocked supersonic blonde Message-ID: <20000222133210.20337.qmail@hotmail.com> aka Debbie.... HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! how's da villagio?-as dear ol'velocity says. i know how to get yourselves out of the misery.I DO! go and by any B-52's albums.just pick it up and hit da turntables wit it... i bought time capsule by them-the only one i found in that shop i went-and love shack is in my blood now...really.... then in order to feel even more happier and relaxed and jiggy there's only one think i have to say:MANO NEGRA. .......listen to the beat beat beat of the salsa............. ........and as you are about to fly,then you decide to check sth else.sth else as in THE SUNDAYS..........brilliant but.....i don't know.i listen to them at night.every night but again....i decide to betray my misery and i get a bit happy every now and again-like today! i'm going to see muse in stoke today.if any of you are gonna be there,try not to spot me but the tall bloke i'm gonna be with.very tall.and next to him there's gonna be shorty-me.you'll notice us cause we're gonna be dancing like mad and talking a language that well you'll just don't get. that's it.i am talking bullshit as i always do.someone kick me out from here.(and now everyone is supposed to say no no we love you zoe don't go....). bye bye bye bye baby bye bye..................... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (you need to let the steam off every now and again) some people ARE lovable BUT we are S I C K and TI RE D of saying them AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the time. and since they D O N O T appreciate it then we are SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDD. bye. z.da.z. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Tue Feb 22 13:46:20 2000 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:46:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: of villages and rehab Message-ID: <20000222134620.26270.qmail@web305.mail.yahoo.com> Oh man! The Sinister Village would be a wonderful thing. In response to Velocity's call for someone to run the MenTAl hOsPitAl I would like to put myself forward. I'm feel I'm qualified because I deal with some quite disturbed people on a daily basis and my brother-in-law used to be a psychiatric nurse so he can show me how to deal with violent patients. Mine will a GRATE funny farm that will use no drugs or ECT, just soothing music, tea and cakes. A nice cup of tea and a cake won't solve everybody's problems but I reckon it could sort out 98%. If anybody wants to DJ the soothing music then send me a list of yer top ten soothing choons. There will also be a rehab ward for anyone who's spent too long at the pub or at the gym. Both types of case will be treated with kebabs. Peace, love and gay buses to you all Robster "More kebabs, Nurse!" ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brandtpfundak at xxx.com Tue Feb 22 13:59:13 2000 From: brandtpfundak at xxx.com (Brandt Fundak) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 05:59:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Birthday Greetings and my worthless diatribes Message-ID: <20000222135913.16736.qmail@web1802.mail.yahoo.com> Hi all, I try not to post as often as I can, but there are certain moments that you just can not avoid. Even though Laura Llew beat me to the punch, I must wish a happy birthday to the wonderful Marie Elia. For those of you who have not had the pleasure of meeting Dear Marie, she is a lurvely girl and a kind and marvellous soul. Now that that is out of the way, a little about me (as if you cared.) I think I have been suffering from that winter depression people talk about, compounded by the fact that I have spent the majority of the last 72 hours either sleeping or looking at a computer screen. However, with spring right around the corner and a bevy of shows coming up (starting with Kids in the Hall on Saturday) I think I am going to break out of it. I think I have hit a low in my Belle and Sebastian fandom lately. I will occasionally throw a song on a mixed tape or two for driving, but I can't bring myself to listen to a recording. Hopefully, I'll break out of it soon, but it feels like the sort of thing where I won't get excited until the new LP is out. *sigh* Why did they have to add an extra day to February? Brandt ===== "It's like a magic unicorn came into your house and farted springtime." --Johnny Bluejeans __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.cullen at xxx.com Tue Feb 22 14:28:31 2000 From: p.cullen at xxx.com (Paula Cullen) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:28:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: you can leave your hat on Message-ID: <01BF7D41.1809B9A0.p.cullen@music-control.com> *ahem* with all this sinister village talk (cheers, by the way to velocitygirl for crediting me with all those smashing suggestions. i didn't make them, but taking credit for other peoples work always gives me a warm feeling inside...) i'd like to propose the idea of a nuddy male dance troupe; The SinisterVillage People. forget the chippendales, give me skinny white boys any day. think about it girls; who would YOU most like to see in the altogether? stevie trousers........... *sans* trousers???? carsmile steve............ wearing *only* a smile???? joss moorkens.............er, actually, no, sorry. scrap that one. the honour of Chief Stud will, of course, have to go to the narrow wizard himself; mr. lowery. nominations are welcome, and i will personally vet all applicants. personally, like. is it just me, by the way, or did anyone else have problems trying to vote on the list crush? it's probably just as well i couldn't manage it, though. i would have given my votes to either lesley jo or JENOWL, and as a catholic, that would be against my religion. mind you, frickin' breathing is nearly against my religion, but thats a whole other kettle of ball games... loves, pee dot cullen at music dash control dot com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.alder at xxx.uk Tue Feb 22 14:55:28 2000 From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:55:28 -0000 Subject: Sinister: All the boys think she's a spaz, she's got Bette Davis eyes Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F3352EA7@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk> I'm going to miss Stuey D for the dazzling sense of humour he injected into the band. Let's re-live one of those classic moments, shall we? "I used to think my Dad looked like Elvis. I haven't told him that yet. I haven't told my Dad, either"* That boy's a real card, isn't he? Talking of cards, my team, the Cards (that's Woking FC, as if you didn't know) are right down there at the bottom of the Conference. If you don't know the football league system in England, that's the fifth league from the top. It's not good that they're in the Conference, but it's even less good that they're facing relegation and the club don't want to sack the manager because he's a Nice Man. Oh yeah, and the club are losing £4,000 per match, so they sold their best player for £20,000. Great move, that. Rachel Tucker, was it you who was fed up about Oxford? I challenge you for the title of Sinister Football Moaner. You can't possibly be more miserable than me. I don't think anybody has established a Sinister Bed and Breakfast yet, have they? May I have the honour? It will be twee to the foundations, but you can forget your butterfwies and bunny wabbits - I mean twee in the old-fashioned, New Forest pony and Devon cream tea sense of the word. First off, it's got to have a thatched roof. Then, there'd be chintz curtains, chintz tablecloths, chintz armchairs and matching chintz headboards and valence sheets in the bedrooms. I'd have net curtains in every room (the sort that are shorter in the middle than at the sides) and they would twitch regularly. There'd be a little fire in the lounge with faux coals and an orange glow and a load of horse brasses hanging above it. On the mantlepiece would reside a whole host of china ladies in lovely long dresses with parasols. I would sit behind the reception desk of my B&S B&B, evil-eying over the top of my specs at the so-called married couples who came in for DIRTY WEEKENDS! Each morning, I would my run about , feather duster in hand, gold peep-toe slippers (of the sort one might wear on a cruise) on my feet, curlers in my hair, terrorising the guests and inspecting their rooms for clues as to what they'd been up to, before having a good gossip with my next door neighbour ("Ooh, Mrs Jones, they had two rooms, but her bed was COMPLETELY untouched!"). I'd do a magnificent full English breakfast (the bread cut with my famous bread knife, natch) and would sneer at anyone who can't stomach a black pudding. Of course, I'd have abide by B&B Rules and charge for Use of Cruet. Who was analysing dreams a while back? I'd like to see some analysis of people's village career choice, please. I've got a sore back and I'm walking like an octagenarian at the moment. Expressions of sympathy to... Juicy Lucy *I may well have got the wording a bit wrong - I'm at work, so I can't search to double-check it. Don't bite my head off, pleeeeeease? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BrnToEnd at xxx.com Tue Feb 22 15:00:26 2000 From: BrnToEnd at xxx.com (BrnToEnd at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:00:26 EST Subject: Sinister: Psy! Psy? Psyduck! ::boom:: Message-ID: <4f.12a591e.25e3fe8a@aol.com> Good Morning everyone!, Oh yippee its tuesday back to school/work waaaaah oh well atleast I'll get out of my house heh. I don't have much to say this time around. Just wanted to wish everyone a happy coffee morning and hope you don't crazy. I myself am listening to Radiohead(Paraniod Andriod at the moment) and eating a muffin with coffee and a glass of milk mmm. Oh yes and does anyone know when Charlatans/Stereophonics show at The warfield in S.F. goes on sale? Thanks in advanced. Well I better wave goodbye now. Bye bye -Damon In my CD player right now: OK Computer-Radiohead +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Tue Feb 22 14:49:25 2000 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:49:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Krazy Village People Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000222144925.0068c938@ampsys.co.uk> Hello all, Anyone who wished to see previous failed experiments of Sinister villages should explore the less known areas of Devon. There's also several early examples of genetically modified mutations there, normally seen propping up the bar with a pint of cider in out of the way public houses. I remember going on holiday down that way when I was a wee lad and winning a pool competition, not due to any particular talent on my part, but largely due to the locals either being cross-eyed or Cyloptic. Apparently the hilarious TV comedy "Keep it in the Family" got huge viewing figures in the Devon area. Don't know why... This week I've been mainly troubled by germs. Nothing to do with the uncleanliness of my new abode, more to do with the fact that antibiotics are gradually losing the battle against mutating germs and we will all die soon from cutting our fingers and stuff. I read it in The Times so it must be true. Apparently it's largely Spain's fault as they sell antibiotics over the counter and are culturing new super germs that laugh in the face of 'ol Pops Penicillin and his family and friends. So I'll be the health inspector in the Sinister village, so I can test all the food and beer in the village for free, only for your own safety mind, and all strip searches and cavity probes will be for your own good. It's you I'm thinking about. But perhaps not in the way I should be... Ho hum... As for the Krazy Jeepster article I read the pisstake first and strangely found the bits I laughed at to be in the original questionnaire answers. My sense of humour must have gone right up my own alley, along with most of the contents of my pencil case. Sorry... I did originally put up my alley along with my career and love life but obviously that wouldn't make sense, especially with the price of Pampers and Huggies these days. Anyway, better go and teach some slugs how to ice skate. It's not all work, work, work... Te ra, Martin ear confection recordings (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Tue Feb 22 18:54:24 2000 From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:54:24 -0500 Subject: Sinister: the pudding's where the proof is In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200002221851.NAA16779@s1.nassau.cv.net> On 21 Feb 00, at 21:58, GardeningAtNight at aol.com muttered into a little tape recorder: > If the date on the album is correct, then it was recorded the same time as > Voice From the Mountain, Hanging From a Star, and Rider on the Wheel. > February of 74 I think. Which is a shame because those are some of my > favorites of [Nick Drake's]. I feel that sort of emotion too. I can't imagine him as > ever being a real person for that reason, I think. It's just like an old > legend told over and again. are those... damn creepy? one of my favorites, though, is "know"... the rawness of the lyrics, how perfectly they describe nick... and the guitar, which freaks you out almost as much because of its buzzing... and you -know- that nick is a brilliant guitar player, and never lets a string buzz... it's sort of like he's saying, "this it the inside of my brain. it's a buzzy place." ... god, i love him. i was in some record stores today, and god-almighty, i saw some b+s eps... didn't buy them though, seeing as i don't have a record player. i wanted to buy some sebadoh/folk implosion, because i've heard their GRATE, but i had already bought some dan bern and seeing as i had some international pop on the way from insound i didn't want to blow my wad. i also bought a GRATE huge copy of the prophet by kahlil gibran, because i lost my old one. yah the strand, haven for pretentious intellectuals with very little money! to keep up this reputation, i bought some kerouac too. how come no one took me up on my kissing booth offer? - adam aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Tue Feb 22 22:34:27 2000 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:34:27 -0800 Subject: Sinister: looper vinyl etchings Message-ID: so i was admiring some of my vinyl today, and looking at etchings and such (for those of you who don't know what etchings are, it's when there's writing on the vinyl, at the runout groove between where the song ends and the label begins). anyway, i decided to check my impossible things 7" just in case, and lo and behold, it's etched on both sides. it says "scotland rules. ok." on side A and "hi nils" on side B. did anybody already know about this? are the other looper records etched? what about the belle and sebastian ones? and does anybody know anyplace that's written down the various etchings (if there are any others besides the ones i've found)? i don't see anything on my ballad of ray suzuki 10", so i don't know what that means. huh. any help? -kerry "here i am, this is me. i am yours and everything about me, everything you see . . . if you only look hard enough." -tindersticks, "my sister" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Tue Feb 22 20:42:25 2000 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:42:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: sinister: sinister: Message-ID: not sure that I'm the right person to let you lot know but Archel has finally got her web based literary mag of the ground and it can be found at www.buzzwords.org.uk there's some very good stuff on there as well as a story by me which you really shouldn't bother reading, the rest is great though, GRATE in fact. that's about it apart from the fact that paula said the honour of Chief Stud will, of course, have to go to the narrow wizard himself; mr. lowery. which was nice of her but I'm afraid I haven't stripped for a few years, in fact I only did it once, I've still got the trophy for winning the competition though, I'll show it to you if you come visit me (the trophy that is). bye all love and hugs owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From David1822 at xxx.com Tue Feb 22 21:13:48 2000 From: David1822 at xxx.com (David Strange Strange) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:13:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: the 1st meeting of the sinister village association...... Message-ID: <26602366.951254028287.JavaMail.imail@doodle.excite.com> Hello Fellow Villagers, Good evening & welcome to the inaugural Sinister tea and cakes evening, the delicious pastries are provided by La Pastry De La bourgeoisie. Right onto business then firstly I would advise all committee members to watch Queer As folk 2 tonight, even Clause 2B should watch, also there's a new band you good peole should investigate Sigur Ros (mentioned last night I believe), they're Icelandic and so be sure to make them welcome in our small community. Finally a sad farewell to Stuart David and his misses little Karn, they will be sadly missed, they are apparently concentrating on Looper and may be spotted in the U.S of A supporting The flaming Lips, if you do spot him say hello and ask how Elvis is. Onto village news now, we would all like to welcome back Archel, even if her visit was just a flying one from the seaside, also the local wizard has invited villagers to his sprawling city luxury love palais, a coach leaves on March the 11th outside the village square. Now to sports news jen the local Supermarket checkout whiz is the new manager of the mighty Sinister F.C, she replaces Peter Shilton her debut match in charge is this weeend, if her players get out of the pub in time. Finally the crimespree of Lines being painted everywhere has been solved it was Jane who works in the village shop, she was putting the poster's up when police arrested her. Thanks to Mayor honey and Belle & spectacles for being brilll, you are free to go now and eat cakes and drink tea, oi.... save the Coconut Macaroons. cheers Dave 'and with Coconut all round his mouth the meeting was adjured, until next time' _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freeworld.excite.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lelah_jones at xxx.com Tue Feb 22 21:38:51 2000 From: lelah_jones at xxx.com (lelah jones) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:38:51 GMT Subject: Sinister: looper vinyl etchings Message-ID: <20000222213851.90395.qmail@hotmail.com> what about the belle and sebastian ones? i was curious(and bored--or procrastinating, take your pick)so i looked on all my import vinyls. the "if you're feeling sinster" i have says 'tim d. masterpiece' on both sides. the bis "new transistor heros" has "kev" on it. the major lable(blur, etc..) ones have machine stamped serial numbers on them. then i got even more curious and looked at my friend's diy 7" they put out. no machine stamps, but hand etched numbers. interesting. lelah ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris.jones at xxx.uk Tue Feb 22 21:45:51 2000 From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2000 21:45:51 -0000 Subject: Sinister: That's complete village! Message-ID: <200002222203.WAA11056@smtp.saqnet.co.uk> Can I organise a village cricket team? We can play on a parched common which has circles in the corners where the fairies have been, and hoof marks from the horse that has no owner. We can play friendly matches against local pipe smokers in the height of summer. Jen can help me organise the teas. Cucumber sandwiches, chocolate slices and butterfly cakes. All the partners can come and sit at the side, clapping appropriately, making sure the children (and Erica) get up to no mischief, and occasionally mending grazes. Oh, I can smell the freshly cut grass now, hear the children laughing, feel the sun beating on my back as I patrol the covers. "Well bowled there sir, that's good cricket all round!". Afterwards we all meet in the pavilion for a post match pint and natter before getting off home to watch the sun set. Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Tue Feb 22 22:02:35 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 17:02:35 EST Subject: Sinister: i'm gonna make you an offa you can't refuse Message-ID: how goes it everyone? i've been off posting for a while now hehe. and everyone says yes the list was clear of mindless annoying posties well i'm back but not in the saddle it's more like the saddle has turned upside down and i'm hitting my head on the ground slowly slipping into unconciousness. woohaa. yeah. so i think i should either be the godmother or the local 'chemist' if you catch my drift. i'm really good at being mean and making people do things so i figure i'd be pretty good at it. a sinister mafia. mwahahaha. although i'm not italian. but i dated an italian once so indirectly how abouts? haha. just like in ny i dated a greek boy and therefore i was greek for that four months. according to his yaya(did i spell that right?) anyway. does anyone know of a internet provider with unlimited access and multiple email addresses other than AOL? my famille is searching for one more reliable and more reputable. and reasonably priced too please? DREAMS: whenever i sleep to TM i have the most bizarre B&S dreams for example the other night i dreamnt that some television programme had B&S in the background just like the SNL skit it was retarded an i ran to my computer to post you lot. stupid bits of dreams like that. the weird thing is that i really thought this one was happening and when i woke up i was sorely dissapointed. now. either i spend too much time on my computer or i spend too much time listening to B&S. prolly both eh? prolly. ooh i just had another idea for the sinimafia. we can have a swank bar full of cigarette smoke even tho no one is smoking and some hot tamale pounding on the old ivories. in some red shift. this is where you all can come for 'favours' muy bien. i don't like guns but i think i'd like to carry a tommy gun in a violin case. with a fitted pinstripe suit. hehe. yes indeedy. now who wants to be a coppa? ciao belli iris www.angelfire.com/journal/standhere/index.html I am drunk with gravity +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GardeningAtNight at xxx.com Tue Feb 22 22:05:27 2000 From: GardeningAtNight at xxx.com (GardeningAtNight at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 17:05:27 EST Subject: Sinister: looper vinyl etchings Message-ID: <2f.1cefad7.25e46227@aol.com> kerry (zutroy at belleandsebastian.org) wrote: << are the other looper records etched? what about the belle and sebastian ones? >> I just took a look at my copy of 3..6..9 Seconds of Light and it's got the words "Tim D. Masterpiece" etched on the A side. At least that's what I think it says. That's the only B&S record I have though. My others just had serial numbers or nothing at all which was a little disappointing. Samantha +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Tue Feb 22 22:20:06 2000 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:20:06 -0000 Subject: Sinister: a long goodbye... Message-ID: <004d01bf7d82$fa140620$e4d8b0c2@default> Hi folks. Well, it's been a lot of fun, but regretfully, my love affair with the Sinister Mailing List has to coem to an end. I just haven't got the time to read all these wonderful posts the way I used to. I guess it just wasn't meant to be. I want to keep in touch with all the friends I made here though, especially Karolyne, Jeanette, Ally, and the rest. I guess all there is to say now is... unsubscribe sinister *sniff* --Jason Andreas A one-man civil war..... ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GBCH at xxx.uk Tue Feb 22 23:08:58 2000 From: GBCH at xxx.uk (Chris_t_opher) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 23:08:58 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Nick Drake, Tompaulin, Lancashire listees, evil Lleweth and cheesy things. References: <200002221255.MAA00408@missprint.org> Message-ID: <001c01bf7d89$cd9a5b60$c824883e@gsh> Ho-hum La-di-da First of all, Sam_an_tha (nice email addy btw) said: >christopher said: Which I wasn't too happy about! Anyway, I agree about Nick Drake being a legend and nothing else. I mean, can you ever imagine bumping into Nick down your local pub, buying him a pint of Tetley Extra Smooth and having a chat about Cambridge United's recent poor performances? Can you? You've got a better imagination than me then :o) Speaking of good music, TOMPAULIN are playing at MANCHESTER ROADHOUSE THIS SATURDAY. I know, cos I met Cute Li'l Tompaulinette Stacey from the band today and she signed two copies of the last single for me. I also heard the new single about 10 times and it's BETTER than most of TBWTAS and IYFS (can't believe I just said that). So, I want ALL OF YOU! to turn up and be amazed. *grrrrr* If anyone is considering going from anywhere near Blackburn or Preston, pweez give me a "bell" at chris_t_opher at yahoo.com 'cos I don't have my driving test 'til next Tuesday and it's gonna be a bastard to get there AND back. I could do with meeting some Sinisterines anyway :o) DAMN YOU LAURA LLEW: >BTW, I must say that Christopher was >dead wrong about Christianity dying a very quick death. 2,000 years in the >making and it's not going anywhere soon. Sorry to disappoint you, old pal. YOU got my name wrong too! AND you're sooooo wrong! So naaaahhhhh! I was going to apply for a job stacking the high high shelves in your bookshop but I don't think i'll bother now! Anyway, I got propositioned by Damo for the statement I made so naaaaahhhhhh again :o) Will that do for content, Honeypie?.... Chris_t_opher - King of The Precious Things "It's probably the cheesiest thing you'll ever eat in your life" - My mum, 2 minutes ago. Guess what it was! The lucky winner will be picked from a hat whilst the rest of you have to stay there! (did that only make sense in my head?) Ps. I dont think anyone wants to run the village ReCoRd ShOp, so i think i'll have it thankyou very much. :) It'll always be full of records you never thought you wanted but, having seen them, you MUST own them. Pps. They just ruined the ending of QAF :o( +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GardeningAtNight at xxx.com Tue Feb 22 23:41:56 2000 From: GardeningAtNight at xxx.com (GardeningAtNight at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 18:41:56 EST Subject: Sinister: chris_t_opher can't spell his name with alphabet soup Message-ID: <1a.c8918f.25e478c4@aol.com> bluddy chris (GBCH at langho73.freeserve.co.uk) wrote: << First of all, Sam_an_tha (nice email addy btw) >> This I knew. But thanks. I still recieve strange junk e-mail about botany though. << said: >christopher said: Which I wasn't too happy about! >> Sorry, I didn't realize I was still in Eng_l_ish class. Then it'd be (`KRIS tuh fer) wouldn't it? Actually, that part of vocabulary lessons always spooked me because I know I don't separate my syllables right, and the teacher's face would always turn really odd colors when grading papers. But we've not had to write them like that for a few years at least so maybe they've finally realized how pointless it is. Not to make fun of your name or anything, maybe your parents were English teachers? Some of my best friends are.. uhh.. nevermind. << Anyway, I agree about Nick Drake being a legend and nothing else. I mean, can you ever imagine bumping into Nick down your local pub, buying him a pint of Tetley Extra Smooth and having a chat about Cambridge United's recent poor performances? Can you? You've got a better imagination than me then :o) >> It's kind of sad, that is. It's fascinating at the same time, but I think that if I were ever to see him in the flesh (slim chance I know) I'd fall over in shock or something. And not just because he's dead. You know what I mean. Everything lends to the fantasy. My family may be visiting England next month though and hopefully we'll have time to stop by Tanworth. Maybe seeing his headstone will knock some sense into me, but I doubt it. Well I'm in kind of a crap mood because my mom promised she'd bring home chinese food and she didn't. So now I've got to subject myself to the stir-fry stuff that comes frozen in a bag with a package of sauce. Or something. And loads of homework on top of that already nasty mess. I should just blow it off, shouldn't I? Bluddy conscience, and bluddy biology teachers with comb-over hair. Samantha +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From colin.mowat at xxx.net Wed Feb 23 00:09:11 2000 From: colin.mowat at xxx.net (Colin Mowat) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:09:11 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I want to drive around in the Lotus 7 Message-ID: <000b01bf7d92$4a682660$de0e2cc3@default> Tuesday 22 February 2000 23:35 Velocity wrote: For that reason a lot of sensitive sinister souls will have to be committed to the local MeNtAl HoSpiTaL so... we need a loving, caring soul to run it... any ideas? Well that's right Velocity, but can I suggest that in such a community a mental hospital would do more harm than good. The mental hospital idea should be abandoned in favour of a community mental health worker. Community support and the support of the community, now doesn't that sound better than a hospital bed and a straight jacket in a padded room. A psychiatrist can be forgotten too, as psychotropic drugs will not be required ( the side effects - yuk!). OK, I'll take the job - sounds great. point 1 - i want a stethoscope to hang around my neck, it'll have no purpose but I always looked good in a stethoscope (beats a tie any day). point 2 - I'll need a big house, say ten rooms, then if anybody is finding it just too difficult to function they can always move in with me for a while until they can get it together again. point 3 - ECT machines are expensive so I'll need about 5 feet of electric flex with a plug on one end and two exposed wires at the other. Forget anaesthetics - transcendental meditation will do. point 4 - looks like some villagers may need life long psychoanalysis - too difficult so I suggest 35 copies of DIY Freud, 24 copies of DIY Jung and 10 copies of DIY Lacan in the Library point 5 - certainly a lot of behaviour modification will be needed so I suggest a giant rats maze be built in a nearby field. point 6 - I want to drive around in the Lotus 7 (KAR 170C? is that right? it's been so long) not the mini-moke. all that comes to mind at the moment, but I'll keep two neurones linked together with the thought to see what else arises. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From colin.mowat at xxx.net Wed Feb 23 00:24:35 2000 From: colin.mowat at xxx.net (Colin Mowat) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:24:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Nick Drake - Legend or not Message-ID: <001d01bf7d94$5d8cbec0$de0e2cc3@default> Wednesday 23 February 2000 00:16 Dear People, You know, as someone who has been listening to Nick Drake since 1976, well to me he's not a legend but he is a great songwriter and performer. Now his sister, Gabriella (? spelling), she's a legend from Gerry Anderson's UFO (and Crossroads - no forget Crossroads)............and Che Guevara, he's a legend. Nick Drake - the music is sometimes equalled, but it doesn't come better. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.borgia at xxx.ca Wed Feb 23 02:03:53 2000 From: alexander.borgia at xxx.ca (Alexander Borgia) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:03:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Da Guys! Went to Toronto and Behaved on the Bus Message-ID: <38B34009.AF992804@sympatico.ca> [special report] Here is the special report on the Toronto Sinister Meet. The bears got drunk. Angel made some vague mentions and I would like to state that I did not get lucky, I did not attempt to write my name in the snow, nor did I fall down in the snow. All this transpired after I returned home on a bus with a passed out Alphonse. I am still not sure whether it is a good thing or a bad thing that I missed the above. Once again I was able to prove that photography be best left to those who are more capable than me which pretty much is everyone. I sort of arrived considerably early and by the time the rest of the Sinisters arrived I had comsumed quite a lot of vodka. I even had to make a run to the bank machine. So it turns out that I had run out of film long before I stopped taking pictures and I'm not sure if it was the vodka or if the camera was broken. Probably the vodka. I have scanned all the photos that did turn out and they represent the official version of events. Much had to be suppressed on the advice of the attorneys and further discussion of the matter is prohibited under court order. Unfortunately at this time the report cannot be made available to the public pending approval out of discretionary respect. The special photo report has been prepared and will be released within 48 hours. Unless of course Miss Honey accidently slips and somehow the url gets posted to the list. At this time we can only say that it involves: Alphonse had a going away party. Ti-Jean fell in love. Bears got drunk. Humans got drunk. Someone got married. A navel was captured on film. The fork ran off with the spoon. The people from Toronto are a genuinely fun group of people and I encourage any people or bears, especially those with photography skills, to seek them out. No, not stalk them. [sinister village] It appears as though I have been nominated to be both chef and story teller. I don't see a problem with that as I will talk way too much in the restaurant anyways. Just a point of fact on the whole recipe thing....that came from me misreading a post as that a Sinister recipe book had been started and I thought that was what I was contributing to. It turns out now that someone I met at the Toronto meet actually cooked the recipe, and liked it. Wow, thanks. The specifications for the building are not too difficult as we will require an old two-storey brownstone building which we intend to renovate. The top floor will house the firm Bear, Bear, Bear, & Nephew, & Son. They will take care of any interior decorating and it is doubtful if many people will ever see beyond the foyer. The basement will have many tunnels and will be divided into two. In the back half The Major will run his underground armour and weapons operations. He will supply rocket launchers to para-military groups like the Save the Snails Foundation. -"Help stop the carnage. Each year millions of snails are slaughtered mercilessly only to be used in gourmet foods"- He will run this little business part time while he continues to work through Grade 3. The front half of the basement will house a soft-core porno studio. It will never actually be used to make any movies, but it will be a fun status symbol to own as well as making anthropologists wonder when they dig it out of the rubble in 100 years. I think we should play practical jokes on future generations. The restaurant itself will essentially be a money laundering operation for The Major as he seems to somehow be able to make money whereas I just keep spending it. I would really like a piano for Saturday nights as well as a cello and violin and then people could sing love songs in deep Italian voices. As long as nobody understands Italian there shouldn't be a problem with making up romantic sounding lyrics. Perhaps Friday nights could be celebrity night and we'll get a bus stop out front so that StuM or StuD'n'WeeKarn could drop by and you could buy them a really expensive dinner. Hell, maybe we could even get the great Maurice Bear to drop by and hold court. The restaurant will have to be situated in such a way that traps can be set without drawing too much attention, and relatively grime free vegataion can be gathered for the vegan crowd. Anywhere downtown should be fine. This will also require an exterior staircase to the roof for quick access to the pigeons for Tuesday Cajun Nights.(location, location, location) Oooh, I'm so excited can't wait to start moving in. Alexander +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ELZober at xxx.com Wed Feb 23 02:24:10 2000 From: ELZober at xxx.com (ELZober at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:24:10 EST Subject: Sinister: looper vinyl etchings Message-ID: <84.1c9d895.25e49eca@aol.com> hi all..... seeing as how i'd rather work out at the local gym stark naked in a swarm of bee's instead of doing my homework - the idea of rummaging through odl vinyl was soooo much more appealing... so - here's a question - who thought to do that? have other bands done that? all the Belle's album - including Tigermilk and all the EP's on 45 - have tim d. masterpiece.... which is obvioulsy Tim Doogan - or that's what i should think it is anyway...... anyway - perhaps this is some kind of greater plan - OR - is it a Sub-Pop thing? anyone have any old Mudhoney laying around? the Looper stuff is all on Sub-Pop - so may be this is a Sub-Pop thing........ ? if you want to reply off list - that's fine - dont' know if we need to start a fraggle over record stampings... but if i find out anything cool - i'll post it to the list... love elle +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Wed Feb 23 02:56:00 2000 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 02:56:00 BST Subject: Sinister: no-one knows where your monkey goes Message-ID: <1437CD9531E@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> hey kidz, i feel like i've been neglecting you a bit lately, what with my hectic social life and all. no really, i've just returned from my first visit to the local 80's night at uni (partly due to your recommendations, mr paul a) well, talk about subverting mass culture (i know you weren't, but my english lecturer was today, so i thought i'd continue) but it's clearly a game of 'lets see how many nirvana and poor heavy metal records we can fit in between wham! and belinda carlisle, whilst playing original versions of popular songs which have obscure samples in them, just to piss everyone off.' i shan't be doing that again...... until next time oh and remind me not to visit anywhere even slightly trendy accompanied by three blond girls, this makes for much unwanted male attention. eugh! dans la village du sinistre, i wanted to have something to do with confectionary, so that my jaffa cake fetish could be satiated, but all those sort of jobs seem to have been taken, so i think i should run the local counselling service, as there seems to be a tendancy among sinistereenies to be miserable and i've found that i'm quite good at cheering people up, what with all my bestest friends being depressives, no actually. in other fiona news, i actually do appear to have some semblence of a social life: in the past two days, two different blokes have phoned me to show their interest, and i've led them both on. perhaps i should stop doing this and only be nice to the one i actually like, but where would be the fun in that? but, no, one of them really is gorgeous and i'm hugely smitten, despite only having met him once, i shan't say any more because the manchester faction of sinister will start questioning me and the cat will certainly be released from the prison that is the bag. had to leave the house half way through who wants to be queer as folk 2 to go to said 80's night, better wait for the repeat. new game add 'who wants to be...' to the beginning of your favourite tv shows, it just about always makes sense, and now and again is slightly amusing. eugh, just realised i'm inflicting my (ever so slightly) drunken ramblings on you again. one day i will post sober, honest. suppose i'd better wish you love and jaffa cakes then, fiona "call me good, call me bad, call me anything you want to baby" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ksgljl78 at xxx.net Wed Feb 23 03:21:48 2000 From: ksgljl78 at xxx.net (jason luther) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:21:48 -0500 Subject: Sinister: subject? im kinda curious myself Message-ID: <000401bf7dad$212d62e0$f6891b26@oemcomputer> this must be one of the most diverse classes i have ever had. granted the name is 'literature of ethnic america' and all, but should the topic of the class describe the students who take it? most of the students, when i look around, are white, but there is a deep mixture of minorities. a chinese girl, who speaks mostly broken english sits way up in the front row. i can tell she is very intelligent. she never talks about bull shit from china, or similarities between them and the united states or anything like that, she always talks about 'people'. it makes it easy to see that nationalities are just classifications, people are people are people anywhere you go. there is an older man from lebenon (who also sits in the front row), hes about 40-45 id say. also he is very intelligent. his english (although he still has an accent) and his vocabulary are better than most anyone i know. i have terrible english. i swear and stutter and fumble over words all the time. its kinda humbling for someone who grew up speaking a different language, to speak it so much better than i. there are also a few coloured students in my class. please dont think i am prejudice, i just find this interesting. now, i went to predominantly white high school, and seldom had a class with coloured students. having been going to college (university) for 4 years now, im still getting used to it. the curriculum for the class includes a few books by black authors (toni morrison, ernist j gaines...) , and a lot of the subjects deal with poverty, prejudice and slavery. i often wonder what the black students think when these issues are laid out in class everyday. i am also embarrassed when the book reads 'nigger' and we have to read it out loud in class. am i the only person who feels this? i really dont want people to think i am prejudice, i really, really am not. before class started today, a lady from mexico (she states all the time that shes from there), who also by the way sits in the front row ( i sit toward the back) was talking about her tax returns. now, it was real quiet in the room, and she was talking real quiet so only the person she was talking to could hear. heh heh. i wanted to speak up and say, "dont bother whispering, we all can hear you." i know i could hear, and i think i have poor hearing, so im sure everyone else heard too. theres this girl that sits way on the opposite side of the class. i quite possibly could be infatuated with her (it takes me a while to know) she is always dressed really well, and i think she may have a lot of money (not that i really care), but she always looks nice and clean and smart. aarrggg my prof is making us move to the front of the room, now im surrounded by people i dont really like. there is this other girl that kinda sits near me who has new sneakers. she keeps sticking her foot out and posing them so she can get a good look at her new kicks, how annoying. this one guy that always sits near me always sleeps, when hes not though, hes always talking about his band. "were going to be the first band signed off the internet", he blurted out today to his friend. he looks like the kind of guy whos in some PANTS rock/rap band with the likes of limp biscuit or something. im very green over this guy. i want a band, i dream of it all the time. although i cant find anyone who plays anything ( i play guitar and can sing fairly well), or who likes the same music as i. ggrrrrr so im a little envious, who cares? theres this other guy, he thinks hes sooo smart. his voice is kinda high pitched and annoying, and he always tries to make these connections of things in the book and real life. they hardly make any sense, hes soooo annoying. i think his voice is a large part of it. my prof is like 30 years old, she isnt that attractive or anything, but she has a real nice personality. so, on the first day of class, i decided to seduce her ( i would never do anything, i thought it might be fun to try and disrupt her teaching everytime she looked at me, and saw me gazing at her [do i use too many commas?]). i know im attractive, and am rather high on myself as well. but its a good high-on-ones-self, a healthy one, either that or id be dead. so anyways, for like 4 class periods i never took my eyes off of her. much to my demise, nothing ever happened. perhaps im not as appealing as i think. im an unusual person, i know it, i kinda cherish it. but looking around this classroom, i dont feel so unusual, everyone is weird. it kinda depresses me. this is my cue to be even stranger. has anyone else fallen in love with any of the characters from the beautiful belle and sebastian songs? i relate to them well, i wish they were real people (perhaps they are?) i would look for them, and say "hey, im just like you!". thats all for now, my prof just said orgasm, i think i should be paying attention. haa haa haa another 4.78 minutes lost to me....sorry..... jason the homo/heterogeneous +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ksgljl78 at xxx.net Wed Feb 23 04:19:25 2000 From: ksgljl78 at xxx.net (jason luther) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 23:19:25 -0500 Subject: Sinister: village Message-ID: <000a01bf7db5$2c0c0100$f6891b26@oemcomputer> oo oo, one more thing. can i please be the village handyman?. im pretty mr fix-it and stuff, and im sure things will always be getting broken. i hear honey is pretty clumsy. heh heh jason the handyman +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Wed Feb 23 04:38:17 2000 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 23:38:17 EST Subject: Sinister: That's complete village! Message-ID: <1c.1077e21.25e4be39@aol.com> In a message dated 2/22/00 4:56:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, chris.jones at saqnet.co.uk writes: << Can I organise a village cricket team? >> If the Sinister Village is to have sports, can we organize a Sinister basketball team? I know its none too popular outside the US, but it would give us "vertically enhanced" listees a place to go. We won't play in a gym because thats too fancy, so someone will have to build us a nice outdoor court and a few benches so we can put our ghetto blasters down when we're playing. We can also put up a chain link fence around the outside so the people not playing can lean against it and look really "hard." It will be great, trust me. If that falls through I'll enlist on the football team, 'cause I was a fair middie back in the day... As for an occupation, I'd like to head-up the Sinister Village's Department of Tourism where people can take tours of the city or at least be advised where everything is. It sounds totally mundane and irrelevant but its something I'd actually enjoy doing. I picture this village to be alot like the Smurfs village and I don't know why. Speaking of basketball, the other day a young guy came to play at our court and he looked EXACTLY like Struan. I'm talking the spitting-image of the guy. He was quiet and polite and went about his business on the court pretty quietly. I had a heck of a time trying to make myself play hard defense against him because I kept imagining I was blocking Stuart Murdoch himself and I just couldn't bring myself to do that. If any of us actually got to sport against any of the B&S clan I bet we'd find it hard to beat them. I have a vinyl of an old band from Washington, DC called Rites of Spring that has "I love it when you try not to laugh" etched in the run-out groove. I've always pictured this couple doing the etchings and flirting the entire time and then one of them etches that onto the record just to make the other laugh. I hope thats what happened, but its probably not. Love and stoichiometry Steve C. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Which Paul?" "BLAH!" visit http://callowkids.tripod.com or your crush will hate you forever +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Wed Feb 23 07:36:28 2000 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 23:36:28 PST Subject: Sinister: filth. that's all that's in here. Message-ID: <20000223073628.22525.qmail@hotmail.com> This is for all the laydeez in da house: "I want to get dooooooooownnnnnnnnn wiiiiiiittttthhhhh yoooouuuuuuuu aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh and make sweeeeeettttt looooooooooveeeeeee...." What we need now is an r'n'b- artist who really tells us what he's thinking. D'Angelo, R. Kelly and all the other ones who want to "pleasure their ladyz"... Piss off, you're lying. I bet those guys just say those things to their one-night-stands, then disappear in the morning, going: "Wehey, I got some! And it only took me four gazillion sold albums, three weeks in rehab and a lawsuit!" Yes, I hate that "ooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhh baby"- thing. Why cant they do it like Barry White, with style? Now there's a man for you! (CHANGE THE SUBJECT YOU TWAT!) The Sinister village! Am I the official bartender now? I'd luv to do that, listen to people bitch about their problems, record it all to a minidisc and then blackmail people. Erm, no I wouldn't. Forget that. But yeah, serving beer to you lot would be nice. But what we need now to our village is some entertainment. I need some action in my pub. So who wants to be a lapdancer, eh? I have a few people in mind from the List, but I'm NOT going to reveal my obsessions. And of course we need a group of guys to be our very own Bellendales. You know, those muscular guys who rub lotion on their chest while women stare at them. So all in all, we need: 1) Women with boobs (Should be pretty easy) who like to perform. No matter how you look, we men are so pathetic that we get off from just about anything that doesn't have a willy (gays not included) 2) Guys with a good body (from Sinister list? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!). The trouble with you women is that you actually have some sense in you, and you dont' get aroused by looking at a Mitsubishi Lancer, like some blokes. So it's harder to think of erotic entertainment for you. Send your job-applications directly to me. And please, enclose a phote of yourself. For... eh... research purposes. (PERVERSIONS ASIDE, I'M ACTUALLY A NICE CHAP) Aahh, what a life. Tomorrow I'm off to interview Sahara Hotnights, the rock'n'rollest band from Sweden. Four 19-year old Swedish girls. God, it's hell sometimes to write to a musicpaper no-one has ever heard of even here in Finland and which is utter shite but gives me access to get in to gigs for free. What else? Oh, have you seen those new Wannadies- shirts? http://www.thewannadies.com/shop/shop2.htm And check out the grey one... Nice one, I must say... I'd better go away now. Oh, the Buzzwords site! It's ace! www.buzzwords.org.uk @--->--- A rose, love and other stuff that makes you feel funny in your tummy, Jake le PetitE ps: props to the brain behind the Village. I think I have a crush. =) pps: I'm a nice boy. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m_smith at xxx.uk Wed Feb 23 09:32:57 2000 From: m_smith at xxx.uk (Smith, Matthew) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:32:57 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Feeling rather strange............. Message-ID: Helloooooo This is my first post (good, glad that's out of the way!) It's so bloody intimidating having to read all these amusing and witty peoples posts for God knows how long before you can post! I actually "graduated" months ago but have never had the guts (or anything interesting to say!) until now........ Actually, if truth be told, I think I'm still a little drunk. Went for a quick pint after work and ended up trailing home at 2 in the morning. I'm still in that "pre-hangover" stage and so I'm trying to make the most of it! The one thing I did genuinely want to ask was (wait for it...) Has anyone else noticed the complete inaccuracy of the sleeve notes on all B & S albums? I can't work out whether it's some attempt to infer artistic maverickness or just slackness (I don't think either of those are actual words, but never mind!) on behalf of Jeepster. Do forgive me if this has been covered before, but as I say I have been "listening" for some time now and have not heard anything to solve this riddle! Can I please be the Sinister Village cabbie? I quite like the idea of driving around all day picking up interesting and attractive people and then driving around some more! I'm sure real cabbies are going to disagree with this insight into the cabbies world but I still think it's quite a romantic idea (not to mention an occupation involving the minimum in physical exertion!) I won't make this too long as I don't want to shoot my bolt (if you will) too soon! Matty "And clenching your fists, for the ones like us who are obsessed by the figures of beauty, you fixed yourself, and said well, never mind, we are ugly, but we have the music" - Leonard Cohen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.waggner at xxx.net Wed Feb 23 03:21:27 2000 From: m.waggner at xxx.net (Michele Waggner) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:21:27 -0500 Subject: Sinister: etchings Message-ID: <007501bf7dad$163eeca0$a1aa4f0c@amstech> A quick flip through my limited vinyl seems to show that etching is not such a rare thing. Sub-Pop usually, but maybe not in *all* cases, etches weird things onto the inner rings of their singles. For instance, the Luna single has "kazoo a rama" etched, The Freewheelin' Mark Arm has "kdissch" carved -- but it was pressed in Germany, so maybe that's a German thing akin to the numbering? Dot Allison's single has "and now the end is near" on the a and initials "c.e." on the b side. "The End" is etched on the Lou Barlow record -- that was the last single issued in the first series released on Sub Pop, I think. They seem to do it rather consistantly. Other labels seem to do it as well... randomly it would seem. The Amphetameanies "Tales of the Arizona Highway" has "There's only one R.P.M." etched, while "Last Night" has nothing but the standard numbers. Butterflies of Love on Secret 7 has "Beware the Positive Men!" on one side and a dedication to several people on the other. Going WAY back in time, I see initials on the "Workingman's Dead" and a funky little symbol on the "American Beauty" lps." And someone's name in in tiny tiny lettering is on the Ten Years After "Shhhh" record. Although they are obviously "personalizations" these seem to be stamped rather than etched... probably because they were pressed in massive quantities back then, while vinyl is released in much smaller numbers now. Then I got bored and dusty looking through those antiques -- and felt a shudder as if Tim Hopkins was walking on my grave, and decided it's time to go to the grocery store now. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daftpunk at xxx.au Wed Feb 23 10:51:20 2000 From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:51:20 +0800 (WST) Subject: Sinister: plea for help (and trade): Want Twisted Nerve/Nick Cave stuff!:) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey listees This is list abuse I know but I'm desperate:) I've been searching high and low for stuff from that excellent label Twisted Nerve-specifically Dakota Oak stuff (like the "Pastures of Plenty" ep) and the "Modern Music for Motorcycles/vehicles" compilation. Preferably CD-R's of the Twisted Nerve stuff but not essential:) I've got a lot of stuff with which to trade, hopefully some of which may be of interest to you. Besides a great bootleg of the heavenly acoustic show that Dot Allison performed here in Perth recently (read last posting for full review!), I have live, rare and unreleased stuff from Belle and Sebastian (loads here), Belly (loads too), Palace, Beth Orton, Smog, Tanya Donelly, Garbage, Black Box Recorder, Saint Etienne, Tindersticks, Radiohead, Mercury Rev, Kristin Hersh, Primal Scream, and Hefner. Am also looking for a very high quality bootleg of a Nick Cave show cos my bootleg of the Nick Cave concert didn't turn out as well as I hoped. I am looking for a solo performance from him (as in sans Bad Seeds but with Warren Ellis and Jim White from Dirty Three on violin and drums respectively, and Susan Stenger on bass). I know this is getting very specific too but I am looking for a bootleg with if not all (though preferably all:)), at least MOST of the following songs (cos I think they're just gorgeous and I have to have 'em!) Love Letter Still (or is it Sad?) Waters Henry Lee Straight To You Weeping Song Papa Won't Leave You Henry Mercy Seat Ship Song People Ain't No Good (and all and any "Boatman's Call" stuff) And any of the lovely heart-breaking ballads that Mr Cave has performed over the years:) (I'm a softie at heart I know) Aussie listees, maybe this would apply to you?:) Anyway, hope to hear from *some* of you soon. Please reply in private to my email address: daftpunk at tartarus.uwa.edu.au(.) Seeya folks Kin Woo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Feb 23 14:53:45 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:53:45 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ooh it's hard for the man Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22B72248@SERVER1> Sinister Village. Yes please. Velocity Girl asked me to run the disco, while Peter runs the porno shop. Erm, how about we have a half share in each? Peter can slap on some Amon Duul and then sell butt plugs from the door of the DJ booth while I cunningly segue into a pop S!M!A!S!H! from Kate B!U!S!H! while he's not looking, and he can gain his revenge with some Neu! B-sides while I'm demonstrating how to gain maximum satisfaction out of an inflatable Stuart David. Or a Wee Karn who lives up to her name. And I just need to say Lucy Alder, Hospital Radio - and cheers to Owen the Stud, for taking the horse-shagging duties. Probably the only creatures he wouldn't split right open with his love truncheon, I'd imagine. Can I be in the football team too? Anyone who remembers my opening goal for Looper (ahem) at Camber Sands will guarantee I've got just the right sort of spunk to penetrate even the tightest boxes. I'd also like to sign up for the cricket team and the mafia. I think I may qualify for the latter by birthright. I'm going to the mattresses. Will Jason Andreas be the Prodigal Son? Or should that be Christal Balls? As for the next T****m*****g, it's still up in the air as the increasingly irritating bloke from the Mean Fiddler hasn't got back to me. I'll do my level best, Leyla, promise... Did anyone hear about the truck driver who had his licence taken away for 24 hours when it was revealed he'd spent 16 days driving without a break? Obviously some kind of astronaut-esque urinary system must have helped, as well as Metal Machine Music on a loop. Me and my mate Bob once decided to spend an afternoon listening to the whole of Lou Reed's epic, and I must admit I really quite enjoyed it. So I can probably keep up with Peter after all. Oh yes, I had another musical recommendation the other night - can anyone tell me if the 100%, 200% and 300% Dynamite (sp.?) compilations are worth investing in? Brandt's problem with B&S surprises me. It's odd, but whenever I put a B&S song on a compilation, I sigh when it comes on - the whole point (to me) of making a compilation, at least if it's for myself, is to put the songs I want to listen to N!O!W! on it, and therefore most of them aren't likely to be too familiar. But the shock of the new is spoilt somewhat when I reach the Belle track, and I invariably regret having featured it. Much better is to languish in a whole album (or two, or three) and get the full gorgeous B&S kick in one go. Isn't Masterpiece the record pressing company? Certainly loads of my 7" from way back when have got "Masterpiece" carved into them. My favourite run-out groove is on This Woman's Work by Kate Bush (have I gone on at length about how great Kate Bush is? I have? Righto) - "Up yours, Ugly", it says. I cried that night. Overusing his exclamation marks, Mark! xxx ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 020 7224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com Wed Feb 23 16:10:57 2000 From: Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com (Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:10:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: nothing of no value has no ending Message-ID: <8025688E.0057B0B6.00@gbemea05.emea.jwt.com> Sinister village people, 1) At the Poetry Cafe last Friday, I had my palm read by a tall man with a beard. He told me I was up for promotion at work, and wasn't that close to my parents, which is mostly correct. He did this, however, whilst staring intently at my face rather than my palm, which I found curious. I think it's very easy to read people by their faces, but have always been impressed by those who manage to do it by the palms alone. This bearded palmist also told Scarlet (the prettiest star in the Sinister galaxy) that she would a) never have to work for a living and b) have lots of children, which was very funny. It fully restored my faith in palmistry, at least as a comedic device. I was hoping he'd read Darren Hefner's hand - I imagine he'd draw some fairly shocking conclusions. Especially from his right hand. 2) I was initially fairly indifferent to Stu D's departure. He always seemed very happy footling around on stage with Looper. He was like a child with expensive toys at Bowlie, his miner's light strapped to his head. And Y2K is rarely far from my record player (although certainly not for the dodgy pulp remix). However, on friday night, sitting up in bed by candlelight with happy thoughts of pretty girls and even prettier boys in my little head, I read Ink Movies with a certain poignancy. He talks so fondly of the band. Without glamourising them, he makes everyone so loveable. It seems sad that the one who had such a strong notion of band unity, and such a strong vision of how the band could exist as an art form beyond the realms of music, should be the first to leave. 3) Samantha did recently write of Nick Drake: >I can't imagine him as >ever being a real person for that reason, I think and I heartily agree, especially because of the bizarre quasi-mystical nature of all of his press shots and album sleeves. On the back of Bryter Later (or at least the lovely re-issue) there is a shot of ol' Drakey standing next to what looks like the Westway at night. it is so strange to see such incongrous items juxtaposed. Nick Drake. Dual carriageway. Nick Drake. Dual carriageway. It seems so surreal, as if they belonged to totally different times. Was that post any good? I am too lacklustre to read it through. The advertising world has sucked my soul from my body, and were it not for a few saving graces, I'd be a floppy limbed corpse. J. D. Salinger --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "you take a really sleepy man, Esmé, and he always stands a chance of again becoming a man with all his fac - with all his f-a-c-u-l-t-i-e-s intact" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Wed Feb 23 16:25:01 2000 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:25:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Arse Stretchingly Wholesome Message-ID: <200002231125_MC2-9A4E-EC68@compuserve.com> Hello people, how, are, you, all, doing Right, to the person who videoed and sent me a copy of that Jeepster approved BBC Choice propaganda could you please e-mail me - god I hope you're still on the list. Erm, hang on, thinking about it, anyone who has a copy of said documentary please contact me, oh, look mailto:untitled at compuserve.com there, you don't even have to press reply. Thanks PS, can I please be the Sinister Village window cleaner, the job has very special rewards. Rob +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk Wed Feb 23 15:59:17 2000 From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk (Elizabeth Daplyn) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:59:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: she feeds you tea and oranges that come all the way from China Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Feb 23 18:42:54 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:42:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I Can't Believe It's Not Bugger! Message-ID: <000b01bf7e2d$f7283a20$b190243e@itjfvkli> If we're going to flog a dead horse, why can't it be the arse nappy muscle damage one instead of this backslapping Sinister Portmerion business? What are the lurkers going to do, pop up out of the manholes every now and then? I've decided to close the disco for a week in protest. Mark C, everybody knows that there's only one Neu! b-side in the world. I'm surprised at your ignorance, being from a country that had such close links with Germany during the W!A!R! Those 100% Dynamite compilations look all right to me, if a little pricey (here at least). Can you sort out a problem for me, Mark? The other day I tried to join Bob the Builder's club, but I was cut off in the middle of the registering process, and now every time I try to do it, it says I'm already registered, but I haven't got my special Bob the Builder password yet, so I can't be registered. He's your mate, you have a word with him, will you? No one told me Stuart David had worn one of those spazzy techno lamps on his head at Bowlie. McDonald's probably sounded like a person you could relate to when they started as well. Anyone who calls a company that hasn't got any stagecoaches Stagecoach is asking for trouble. I've got a book of the TV series "This Life", so I'm going to read it and then go through the archives and join in your old conversations, if that's all right. Brandt, don't worry about the winter blues, the days are now a hen's leg longer. A hen's leg longer every day. A hen's leg. I was reading "Q" the other day, and Bobby Gillespie had just bought a Rufus Thomas record. Does this mean we can expect him to add the Funky Chicken to his dancing repertoire? This is Gorgeous, signing off... Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Wed Feb 23 19:13:04 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:13:04 -0500 Subject: Sinister: So which do you like best, Blonde on Blonde or Dusty in Memphis? Message-ID: <200002231413_MC2-9A61-EEA@compuserve.com> Hi there Village People, Does this new conurbation have a name yet? Honey told me he would love to be Upper Sinister. Or was that Struan? My life is being taken away from me: not only am I listening to Incredible String Band & Who records (60's of course, not that 70's past-it stuff) again, I can't see one of those bluddy vehicles without reading "Fistbus" on its sign. Maybe they should repaint them all Sapphic lavender as well. Massive props, as Mark C would say (or should that be ejaculate?) to the Fair Michele for name-checking Ten Years After: the thought of Alvin Lee on the Sinister list made me fall off my chair laughing - Thanks! Oh, & well done Mark, we'll make a proper smutster out of you yet. What does going to the mattresses mean? List Crush: I think its a bit dodgy for Miss Crush to link up the mutually becrushed: she might be followed by the Misses Match, Marriage, Conceive & Begotten. Far more interesting for the manipulative Ms Crush to reveal the identities of rivals for the affection of their crush objects to each other, so that they can challenge each other to duels, to be fought with crochet hooks, or baguettes (bought from Aranxta's shop, naturally), or some other such suitably twee weapons. Hands up all Sinisterines going to All Tomato Party: will there be enough of us there to stake a claim to a sizeable corner of the Queen Vic & keep the super furry hordes at bay? (Bet all those sheep in the field next door end up having to wear nappies) I'm still short - sorry Jarkko :( Bye, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Wed Feb 23 19:24:23 2000 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:24:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Bring Bring Message-ID: <20000223192423.8693.qmail@web1705.mail.yahoo.com> Dear chickens, time to write!! The Sinister Village, eh? When I was at college, my friends and I were really really fucking bored one day. And we made up our ideal world, based in Da Church Street area of Preston, and it was fucking fun. Does it work on a more international level? If anyone cared, I ran Action Records, except I would rename it something BETTER like..."Arse Muscle Damage Nappies Beatz International" - and I supplied the music for my friends resturant and my other friend Gavins nightclub. Called "Gavinos". My friend Lucy would run a Welly Making Factory, and an ice-cream van, and I can't remember what everyone else did. We even made a map! Then we went for an egg mayonnaise buttie from Tescos. They're the best! We didn't have any riot grrl shops, oh oh, though I did own a junk/old clothes shop, and a 2nd bookshop...oh and also a basement where there was lots of free jazz and you couldn't enter unless you were wearing a black polo neck like KEITH WATSON, or some other BIG POOF.* Etchings! On "You've got my number - WHY DON'T YOU USE IT", by the Undertones, "Derry - the Home of Punk Rock" is etched on the little...bit which is un-grooved. And whats the legend behind "Porky Prime Cuts"? Someone told me once that there was a story behind those etchings but I can't quite remember it. Damn I'm going to have to check this out when I get home. Incidentally, the best two 7"s I bought a few days ago, were the Fall doing a cover of THERES A GHOST IN MY HOUSE, and a beautiful song by Velocette. And the best mid-90s dance CD that I bought was "Sunshine" by "Berri". It does not SUCK ASS. How interesting to hear tompaulin are playing in Manchester land this week. I meant to see them on Saturday, but decided to go antiques shopping instead. I nearly bought a dog on wheels but it was 18 pounds!! 18!! So on a matter of principle, (no money), I left the dog behind. Who wants a fucking twee fucking MOUNOSKYLO on wheels anyway. Bah. Either way, I will be in Manchester land this Saturday, so theres another chance to miss them. Hurrah! Last time I looked everyone was complimenting each other round here. That aint my style. Fuck off!! Oh dear. Thats one less potential boyfriend. Perhaps one day I'll sweeten up. Its a shame to realise no-one else is full of hate and quite likes other people, innit? Oh well. I do like most of yers. So there you go. At least you'll know I mean it when I say I like you. I like Peter Miller. I bet he can do a good monkey. Bye then! Love Sarah xo * Or footstool. ===== "But just remember, when your teacher told you to always find a home for stray animals, she wasn't referring to your rectum." -- DNA Mag-AZINE. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keshi at xxx.it Wed Feb 23 20:19:29 2000 From: keshi at xxx.it (francesca) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:19:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: lovely spring Message-ID: <001d01bf7e3b$6e4a5a40$78751997@a07195> i'd like to say hello to all of you. (i'm new love me) today (and -oh my god- it's not finished yet) it's a terrible day. and i've got a lot of work to do (a research about genetically modified food). but i saw a travis' video (turn). they're one of my last obsession (others are castles and gothic novels) i love winter and cold climate but today i'd like if it were spring so i could stay out all day without dying -it's so cold;_;-. talking about b&s, today i bought my favourite magazine and who is there in one of the firsts pages? a photo of stuart murdoch. the brief article said something about the release of new b&s album, and then about looper and gentle waves (luv). bye francesca +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pmcelmurry at xxx.net Wed Feb 23 21:19:50 2000 From: pmcelmurry at xxx.net (Phyllis MeElmurry) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:19:50 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Across my leather jacket, it says "Anal sex for the disabled" Message-ID: <20000223211950495.AAA334@sun.dmci.net@[216.93.118.125]> Hey fancy-pants, After almost two years of skulking about the shadows of sinister, I have decided to throw off my cape and expose my haggard and pale face to the light. A wee lass of 14 when I first stumbled upon our big-bottomed hussies of indie-pop, and without a musical subculture to latch onto at the time, it was not long before I was lieing despondently on my bedroom floor crying bitter tears of twee alienation to the dulcet strains of 'Fox in the Snow'. 'Twas a teenage bedroom headphone salvation if there ever was one. I live in a town so small there's no escape from view, here in the heart of rural Michigan. There's an extraordinary number of Korn T-shirts per square mile, so I live pretty much in an isolated coccoon of popsongs, dirty dreams and shyety (lovely word, Grace). Gay sex. I'm all for it. Wore the tape down playing that scene from 'Maurice' when Maurice strokes Hugh Grant's hair and they're all atremble, every breath is audible and they lean in for a tremulous, glorious kiss. My blood pumps furiously through my head every time. Technically it's not sex, but my repressed self, for some reason I keep trying and failing to puzzle out, is best aroused by forbidden encounters between English schoolboys. Anyone else the same way? Brevity seems like a judicious tactic for a first post, so saucily yours, Priscilla, who will now vanish like a gambler's lucky streak for another two years P.S. Would any sinisterine who gets WFMU, the freeform radio station out of Jersey city, be willing to record Stephin Merritt's show this Friday from 11pm to 2am? Please email me at poultryinmotion at hotmail.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Wed Feb 23 23:12:51 2000 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:12:51 BST Subject: Sinister: you wait for ages... Message-ID: <157C3D740D0@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> ...and then two come along at once (posts from me that is) forgot to mention loads of stuff last night, so i'm doing it now. firstly, huge, huge props to laura llew for promising me a tape and it arriving in my post box almost immediately, filled with wonderous and rilly rilly pretty choones. next, i feel the need to mourn the passing of jason andreas, i've emailed him, and apparently someone was making him feel unwelcome on the list, i presume that whoever it was isn't going to own up, but if i find out, there's going to be some serious ass-kicking going on. raaaaaaaaaa today, i went house hunting for next year, i wonder if i could have the benefit of your experience, is it better to find a house with a lot of potential that needs work or a house that possibly has less potential, but isn't quite as dodgy? not that it matters, because whatever i say, everyone always disagrees with me anyway. does anyone know where my crush vote is? because i took to moving it around, and i can't remeber who i gave it to last, dammit. eugh! its raining rather a lot, i'm going to run back to my house now and cower, hoping for warmth. love and jaffa cakes, fiona go ask alice, when she's 10ft tall +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NOGOODNIK at xxx.net Wed Feb 23 23:31:38 2000 From: NOGOODNIK at xxx.net (christa) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:31:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: bedhead and a sleepy smile Message-ID: <006d01bf7e56$2278e9e0$29b7ffd1@e44e9> hello again, list. its been a while, no? i've been watching you all. i've been peering in your windows with my high-powered binoculars and rifling through your trash. i've been storing up information on you all in my animal-trap-like brain. and now its time for me to show my face once more. so i get the all-important job of Sinister Village Record Store Proprietor. i'm so honored! i guess my time in indie-record-shop-land was well spent, after all. i know several people i'd like to have as employees.. i'll send you all job descriptions, and you can send me your resumes. i plan on having huge sections devoted to Sexy Singers, German Drinking Music, and People Who Smash Instruments. and in-store appearances by all of our favorite popidols. just to feel the vinyl again... the "clickclick" of people sifting through CDs... oh yes. indeed. you all are a wordy bunch, and frankly, i like it. you make me laugh, you make me cringe. that's the sign of a good community, and its refreshing to see not much has changed. we can't expect all 12xx of us to feel/think/live the same, now can we? isn't there some trite verse about variety? feel the love, people. how long can a "return to sinister" post be? just about this long.... this world makes no sense, christa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachel at xxx.uk Wed Feb 23 23:56:41 2000 From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:56:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: football training...no muddy boots thank you Message-ID: <003f01bf7e59$c0b5eb00$c05a883e@preinstalledco> if i'm going to be in charge of the sinister football team, let's make one thing clear. i do not tolerate...only having 2 (and a half) players!!! so far we've got steve c in doing a magnificent holding job in midfield, mark 'I've got just the right sort of spunk to penetrate even the tightest boxes (!)' casarotto err, scoring the goals, and umm, me on the right wing until someone who can actually run applies...so c'mon, whatcha waiting for? you're guaranteed a game... ...and i'll bribe you with a colouring competition to decide the strip (but please, not red), my supermarket (the real life one) is doing two for one on packets of mars ice cream bars!! it's not really winter... imagine, 8 mars ice creams for £1.99...or for free if you design the nicest shirt/shorts/socks combo, come on you know you want to.... i witnessed a colleague (god i hate that word, but i'm not calling helen a friend cos she's a bit of a bitch and NEVER lends cigarettes) walk out of her job today. it was wicked...i think she watched QAF2 last night (wasn't it ace? tho, yeah the ending was a bit weak)...she stormed into the cash office, ripped down her eddie irvine (yuk) posters, walks out of the warehouse with everyone nervously following her, stands at the front of the shop and cuts up her staff discount card, turns on one heel while giving the one fingered salute and leaves. wow. it was magnificent. i wish i could do that. i wish i wasn't miss reliable, who'll probably never ever leave. i know i don't do much, but i'm always there. i would love to just go, in a blaze of glory. i nearly did once, but only because of a highly charged and frankly hilarious argument with my ex boss about the warehouse door and a jar of tomato juice...we ended up in the pub. so much for my resignation... i had other stuff to say. i really shouldn't start these posts so late, i can never remember what i wanted to write about. hmmm. okay, just time wasting now nothing to say, so lovin' and leavin' you rachel xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From scoppolo at xxx.com Thu Feb 24 00:35:34 2000 From: scoppolo at xxx.com (Steve Coppolo) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:35:34 PST Subject: Sinister: no b & s; cranes in london Message-ID: <20000224003534.4179.qmail@hotmail.com> I'm not sure if anyone on this list is a fan of the Cranes, but I'd figure I'd write as I've got an extra ticket to the Cranes concert at The Garage, in London for this Saturday, Feb 26th. I'm offering to give it away at no cost, but if you're feeling nice I wouldn't turn down the �2 for the ticketbastard surcharge. If anyone is interested e-mail me at this address. P.S. If anyone is going, I'd love to meet up. I'm quite new to Belle & Sebastian (one year, maybe) and I love to meet some other fans. l8r, -Steve- mail to: scoppolo at hotmail.com or scoppolo at mail.colgate.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I save your messages/just to hear your voice./You always say your name/Like I wouldn't know it's you,/At your most beautiful." -REM ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dchard at xxx.ca Thu Feb 24 02:09:54 2000 From: dchard at xxx.ca (ipecac spice) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:09:54 -0400 (AST) Subject: Sinister: i am slowly going crazy...slowly am i going crazy... Message-ID: hi there list. i am suddenly intimidated by the thought that this message is going to 1200+ people whether or not they read it. friday i leave for ottawa. this is less than 48 hours. i am alternating between dread and excitment. dread of how i will react when i see my b/f and excitment that i might find some good fabric shops and that i will have loads of time to get my massive quantities of school work done. right now my brain has shut down for the night so i am indifferent to the whole voyage. at least i have a new travel partner. alphonse is very excited. i feel like i live in many worlds. this lovely sinisterland in my computer. my friends. my school. my family. my work. i wish i could meld (this may or may not be a word) them all into one. or pick one and leave the rest behind. or take off and start a new one. i don't think that i m the same person in all these worlds. i wonder which one is the real me? it's funny to think...it's funny i am so tired i have completely lost my train of thought. lucky for you all. i don't think it was going anywhere anyway. i will miss you all while i'm away. no e-mail access in ottawa :( wish me luck! -di he who hates is to be pitied, but he who loves is to be pitied more -german proverb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ELZober at xxx.com Thu Feb 24 08:35:46 2000 From: ELZober at xxx.com (ELZober at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 03:35:46 EST Subject: Sinister: Doh! Message-ID: <77.1bcc4db.25e64762@aol.com> Hey there Mr. Sinister.... well.... tons of reply's to the vinyl question.... but no one (at least not anyone who wrote me.....) pointed out that their sound engineer is Tony Doogan NOT tim....... so... who is the curious Tim D. .....? at first i thought it was something Tony had written... but now i'm not so sure...... it just get's curisouer and curiouser...... is that a word? so..... not to start a fraggle.... but why that instead of the usual stamp? and WHY is it on EVERYTHING the Belle's have done - including the orignal Tigermilk..... they've ALWAYS recoreded at Cava.... but i doubt that Electric Honey and Jeepster use the same company for pressings.... HEY - does it say Tim d. on the matador releases as well? ....... you... sometimes... it seems i have just tooooo much time on my hands, eh? well.... at least it's B&S related......B&S and BS.... so i've got all my bases covered....... :) elle +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Thu Feb 24 11:54:54 2000 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:54:54 GMT Subject: Sinister: Vilage Lovin': happened so fast Message-ID: <20000224115454.75021.qmail@hotmail.com> So I go away for a bit and waddya know? a village has taken root in front of my very eyes. Lets hope it doesn't get like the Amish villages in the US where men had to be brought in from the outside to replenish the gene pool. Anyway I bagsie being left back for the football team and think we should play in a Wimbledon long ball down the middle way. I too am going to see tompaulin in manchester on saturday. They really are the nearest band to B&S in terms of, well, everything though I know that they are sick of the comparison. It's a shame that Mr Andreas left the list but, whatever, one person is not bigger than the list (unless David Beckham is currently subscribed which I doubt for some reason I can't quite put my finger upon. Paul p.s. I heartily recommend Mike Daily's The Valley. It's even got marginalia wriiten by the authour in it and is singed by the author on one page. And I mean singed as in what happens when you light something rather than a misspelling of signed! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Thu Feb 24 12:16:27 2000 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:16:27 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I am not a number... Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69F05718@park_ex> Did you know you can rent the houses in Portmerion (ie the "village", where The Prisoner was set), so maybe we could have our sini-village there: http://www.portmeirion.wales.com/index.english.htm it's flipping expensive mind, and I'm not sure if there's a pub... hmm maybe not such a good idea after all, but it may give our village architects a few ideas. *steve runs off down the beach chased by a large weather balloon David "wonder if anyone will think i'm john peel this time" Moore said: Hands up all Sinisterines going to All Tomato Party: will there be enough of us there to stake a claim to a sizeable corner of the Queen Vic & keep the super furry hordes at bay? *steve puts his hand up and encourages Kevan, Ally, Calumn and Heather to do the same. I've actually been in contact with Pontins management and reserved the corner table of the Queen Vic for the entire weekend, as well as a crack squad of trained bluecoats to keep the riffraff away and personal table service (and a waitress). The Mogwai site has ATP info and links to web sites for all the bands who are playing, which is quite handy if you've never heard of half of them, like what i haven't. Ooh look here it is: http://www.mogwai.clara.net/atp.htm Somebody mentioned travis and i now have "turn" going round in my head and am unable to shift it despite REALLY NOT LIKING TRAVIS AT ALL, grr. Curse you Fran Healy and your funny spiky hair. xoxo Carsmile "watch out oxford, here i come" Steve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordiet at xxx.com Thu Feb 24 13:11:44 2000 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: 24 Feb 2000 05:11:44 -0800 Subject: Sinister: I´m a sweet dictator.. - from the dictatorial.....Sinistervanya !! Message-ID: <20000224131144.16545.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From RPushong at xxx.com Thu Feb 24 13:28:13 2000 From: RPushong at xxx.com (RPushong at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 08:28:13 EST Subject: Sinister: me myself and i... Message-ID: <10.ee453c.25e68bed@aol.com> ~~~~~~~~~no time~~~~~~~ arghh...no time so little time so much to say! ...why miss velocity...i would love to run the sinister record label..thankyou very much...i almost made my first melted candy signing yesterday...i was travelling to work on the underground and there was a girl busking & playing a rather familiar song...it sounded very "mary lou lord" she was singing and playing guitar to a brittany speares song...in an acoustic guitar stylee...& she looked a bit mary lou lord as well...hmm interesting... sinister village ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i have noticed that we are lacking a few of the undesirable things...like who's going to be the sinister pimp or who's going to run the sinister casino...as much as i would like to wear a big fur coat and wear orange velour flared trousers and a big hat with a feather in it...i'll have to pass...i'll be busy in my big leather chair smoking a big cigar...making corporate decisions... i can't help but feel the sinister village will turn into " logans run " ...which if anyone remembers was a total paradise to live in...until you reached 30...than they killed you!!...er..if thats the case...i'm already dead...i won't go without a fight though... well kids...i have to dash...i'm seeing cinerama tonight at the garage...i'll be the charles manson lookalike if anybody is interested in having a conversation about how i almost became a monkee... cheerio... over and out... richard...i...p +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From caroline945 at xxx.com Thu Feb 24 13:31:06 2000 From: caroline945 at xxx.com (caroline smith) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:31:06 GMT Subject: Sinister: manic dancing and buggery gnomes... Message-ID: <20000224133106.83638.qmail@hotmail.com> hellloo chickadees me again at last! phewph after leaving the nursery and sending an initial (and if i'm being honest a bit rubbish 1st message) my computer had a big benny at me. my big sissy tells me its the buggery gnomes, who don't commit buggery, but generally bugger everything up, who do this to my computer. so i'm sorry that reading all your lovely messages has been quite difficult. when i see 423 new messages i feel quite tired at the thought of reading them all at once..am i a bad person? anyhoo enough of this, i met my first other sinisterene in the flesh..lovely jenny, who witnessed my rather manic dancing to boy with the arab strap..my first public dancing experience to b+s hurrah, (and in the same way how sad that nobody i know ever plays them..) before i go i must ask d people find themselves doing strange interpretative (i can't spell i know) dance to let forever be, i can never resist, any way got to go do nasty essays hope you are all well and happy lots of of love an that caroline xxxxxxxxxxx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brandtpfundak at xxx.com Thu Feb 24 14:11:34 2000 From: brandtpfundak at xxx.com (Brandt Fundak) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 06:11:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Perspective and Vision Message-ID: <20000224141134.24189.qmail@web1802.mail.yahoo.com> Hello again, *WARNING* This post will actually have B & S content. This does not mean the post will be worth reading. But first... Last night one of my old friends from high school called me, and told me his band was playing in a BW3 (for those of you who don't know, it is a place to buy chicken wings and beer, not to see bands play.) and me being the sort of nice guy that I am went to see them. They bored the hell out of me of course (they are talented musicians, but work under the mistaken assumption that music has to be complex to be good) but I got to see my friend Nate, who informed me that he had been fired from his job, took a $7 pay cut at his new one, got his jeep broken into, his cds stolen, and got his 19 year old girlfriend pregnant (Nate is 25.) This put into perspective the fact that my main bone of contention with the world right now is the fact that I have to wait until March 31 to see the Make Up play live. It's been a good week so far. I started writing again, and that makes me feel good. I'm glad that I think I have something worth saying. And now what you have all been waiting for: The B & S CONTENT Sometimes I wish that Belle and Sebastian would just break up so that I can stop having the expectation that I may actually see them play live some day and getting all geared about a new LP. Maybe some day, different members of B & S will start touring under the name B & S and then there will be litigation and then they will end up getting back together. Just like Yes. Okay, this has gone on long enough. Brandt ===== "It's like a magic unicorn came into your house and farted springtime." --Johnny Bluejeans __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Thu Feb 24 14:20:06 2000 From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:20:06 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Me and the Vicar Message-ID: Hello I just went to the bank and there was a terribly posh old man with a brush moustache and a tweed jacket there asking the cashier how to use the hole in the wall. "I've never used the "hole in the wall", you see. I think I ought to learn in case they close all the banks, seems a damn fool thing to do if you ask me. I have a Barclay's "card" here, do you have a pamphlet to show me what to do?" It was very odd. He was like someone out of a book. I think he must have been away fighting the damn fool fuzzy wuzzys for the last fifty years, or something. He was probably a Major - they're all a bit daft aren't they? As I've been beaten to the position of village boulangerer by Arantxa I think I'll have to be the village windowcleaner, having endless saucy adventures with my squeegie stick. Like, right, there could be a time when I'm cleaning a window and the vicar opens the window to show his mother-in-law the garden and I accidentally clean the vicar's face by mistake! And there could be another time when I'm cleaning some windows and I accidentally drop my bucket of water and it lands on the vicar's head! And there could be another time when I'm cleaning a window and inside there's a woman having a bath! With big knockers! And she's the vicar's wife! Yes, that would be funny. The vicar could be Struan. He could do his angry face. Bye! Robin xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Thu Feb 24 14:58:39 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:58:39 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Torquay 1 Exeter 0. Ha! Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22B72255@SERVER1> I bet you're all jealous cos Peter's email was almost entirely for ME... Peter, your email address is your Bob the Builder password. I know this as I have just successfully logged in as you. Oh, the power... I'm afraid I'm a big fan of dead horse flogging (or fraggling, as Elle insists on calling it - check out the archives for the full riveting story, kids!), so sorry Peter. I've already offered Paul Arathoon outside for a sherbet fountain duel to the death over who gets to be the footie team's left back (in the changing room...I'll get me coat, shall I), as Rachel, I'm afraid I'm a bollocks striker. Can our strip be entirely made up of the luminescent stuff Nike use on fashion victim trainers (of which I'm a big fan)? It would not only make us easier to pick out on the park, but would also dazzle opponents during floodlit matches, and would be dead cool into the bargain, la. The thought of Liz Daplyn as the village pro makes me come over all hot and bothered. I think I'll have to have a lie down. Well, Jason at the Mean Fiddler has told me that Tigermilking is cancelled on March 10th. He's too busy getting promoters to commit to regular weekly/monthly bookings, and at the moment doesn't have space for us until May, and that's if we guarantee at least three dates. The spoilsport. Still, it gives me an excuse to look for alternative venues, so if anyone has a good knowledge of the London gig and club scene and can think of cheap, decent venues with decks etc. supplied, please please let me know (privately) and we can go from there. Ta! But Leyla, if you want a get together to be organised that Saturday or Sunday - your wish is our command. If anyone's up for it let me know! On to business matters. Frankly, I don't feel I'm getting my deserved financial reward out of Sinister. I feel the time is right for Sinister to take advantage of the internet bubble and float on the stock market. With Honey retaining 51% of stock, and the remainder being shared out between the rest of the shareholders (i.e. us), a conservative valuation of 10 million pounds would provide us all with shares worth roughly four thousand quid each. Which isn't as stupid as it might sound - anyone selling a mailing list of the members of Sinister could expect top whack for it - over a thousand educated, computer-literate, mostly young punters, a marketeer's dream. And research shows that measuring the market capitalisation of companies like Yahoo, AOL and Amazon in terms of value per registered user gives each customer a value of between 200 and 16,000 dollars (honestly, though I can't remember the exact figures). So why don't we take advantage of each other (and let's face it, it's what most of us are here for already), and use our perceived value to whore ourselves around and become rich, rich, I tell you, beyond our wildest dreams!* I got called Capitalistic Mark on #sinister last night. Wonder why. Biondino xxx *I was actually joking about all this, but then again, you never know... ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 020 7224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. This e mail has been checked by our anti-virus system before leaving us; we accept no responsibility for the e mail and any attachments once they leave us. www.hitentertainment.com www.bobthebuilder.org ******************************************************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ruth.A.Deller at xxx.Deller Thu Feb 24 15:20:20 2000 From: Ruth.A.Deller at xxx.Deller (Ruth.A.Deller at xxx.Deller) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:20:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: A site for sore souls In-Reply-To: <200002231413_MC2-9A61-EEA@compuserve.com> References: <200002231413_MC2-9A61-EEA@compuserve.com> Message-ID: Is there a Sinister Village site up and running yet? ANd if anyone has the original proposal for the village saved on an email somewhere, I'd love to re-read it (all in the name of research of course) Cheers to everyone who sent replies to my questionnaires, BTW. You may hear more from me... ><><><><><>RAD<><><><><>< You don't understand me, my feelings, The reason I'm breathing.... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Thu Feb 24 15:32:45 2000 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:32:45 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Milk Message-ID: <200002241033_MC2-9A7E-770@compuserve.com> Bloody hell, typical, coming over here, nicking our jobs, nicking our women. I'm afraid I was going to be the village window cleaner, but that's okay, I don't mind changing. Instead I can be, erm, a window dirtier, you know, to keep you in business. No, hang on, that doesn't sound right. Oh, I could be the village idiot, nope, don't like that either. Oh I know, I could be the milkman, that job also has interesting good points, Every morning I could deliver my milk. Right on peoples doorsteps, I knew someone who took a dump on someone's doorstep, but alas, the only thing I shall be leaving is my lovely fresh milk. Be careful, when you drink it don't let it dribble down your chin, and be careful not to get one of Robert's Milky Tashes, those can be so embarrassing. I also could deliver cream, yoghurt and possibly a small Varity of cheeses. Be rest assured that a web site will follow where you can place your order, after all, there's only so much milk I can deliver in only one day. Robin said << As I've been beaten to the position of village boulangerer by Arantxa I think I'll have to be the village windowcleaner, having endless saucy adventures with my squeegie stick. Like, right, there could be a time when I'm cleaning a window and the vicar opens the window to show his mother-in-law the garden and I accidentally clean the vicar's face by mistake! And there could be another time when I'm cleaning some windows and I accidentally drop my bucket of water and it lands on the vicar's head! And there could be another time when I'm cleaning a window and inside there's a woman having a bath! With big knockers! And she's the vicar's wife! >> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lixibell at xxx.com Thu Feb 24 15:47:36 2000 From: lixibell at xxx.com (alix campbell) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:47:36 GMT Subject: Sinister: me to eternal torture, why don't you. i hate 'subject' lines Message-ID: <20000224154736.85554.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear you lot, Morning has broken. Actually it did that a good while ago, but I stayed in bed. Now afternoon has, um, crumbled and it^�s dismal. I feel like a pig shat in my head. I^�m suffering from something, cos my head is killing me. I want breakfast but I only have 2 potatoes, some pesto, some rice and more tins of plum tomatoes than I^�ll ever use. And two weetabix, but no milk. I woke up when the doorbell went. I picked up the intercom thing and attempted to say hello, but someone with severe bronchitis had possessed my voice. ^�Holloway carpets^� said the voice at the other end. I peered at the handset for a moment, trying to work out what this meant, before huskily replying ^�no thanks^� and stumbling back into bed. I have painted my toenails fluorescent pink. It is very cheering on a grim Thursday to awake and remember your toes are neon. My fingernails were the same yesterday, but I had to get rid of it for a job interview in a pet shop. I think this has turned into a ^�dear diary^� post. I^�m sorry. I^�ll move on to more relevant issues. I bought two records yesterday, at a bargain price of 49p each. The first was the Rocky Horror Show soundtrack, because I like the Time Warp, and the second was called ^�German Beer Drinking Songs^� and the sleeve says it^�s the ^�best beer hall atmosphere ever recorded^�. How_could_I resist? I regret not buying the LP of ^�Icelandic Independent Bands of the 1980^�s^� that I saw a while back. I want to live in the sinister village too. What I could be however isn^�t very nice, and some people of glam persuasions already know about this, but I would be a pimp for woodland mammals supplying stoats, dormice, rabbits and badgers to whoever needed them for whatever purpose. I know it^�s a bit seedy, but it goes on and if I don^�t do it, someone else will, and you don^�t know if they^�ll be treating their ferrets as good as I treat mine. So, remember its Lixi^�s for all your mammalian desires. I could even get some ponies for Tim Hopkins. Alternatively I could be a woman who does. I like tidying. And babysitting, so get procreating. Or a pedant who goes on and on about language structure in an uneducated way, boring everybody. PamB should be hairdresser. MartinR could be the weird person who is convinced he rules the fish people. There should also be a netball team. Arantxa said about her lovely boulangerie idea: so ours will be placed in a very exclusive and difficult to find corner in that Sinisterian village to be, only for its inhabitants.No tourists.Tourists are smelly and wear thick,wolly socks matching orthopedic sandals. Which reminded me of the League of Gentlemen. Which I think is GRATE. A nice LOCAL shop. ^�Will heaven be like Swansea?^� ^�Yes Tubs, but bigger^� GEORGE DICKIE said: DID I EVER TELL U THAT MY FRIEND WAS NEARLY THE MILKYBAR KID??? My brother used to look like the Milky bar kid. He had glasses and blond hair and I teased him something chronic. I also spent lots of our mutual youth trying to convince him that he had Tourette^�s syndrome, because he swore a lot and was prone to weird twitching. Now he^�s stronger than me and I have to be nice to him. It^�s ok though, he likes B&S. Chri_sto_pher said: PS. Starry, your mind scares me! It scares me too sometimes, but its ok, she^�s quite harmless. Aren^�t you dear? ) Bobface says: ^�gerroffa moi larnd, or Mussus Barbfice wull fetch ^�er rollin^� pen, than yarl be sarry. Arr^� ( I suppose I should get dressed. I^�m hungry, hungry, send me some food please.. Love Lixi "Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's an 8 inch anal probe, silly" ~ DNaMagazine ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From windisch24 at xxx.com Thu Feb 24 17:32:06 2000 From: windisch24 at xxx.com (mike windisch) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:32:06 PST Subject: Sinister: top of the whack to you Message-ID: <20000224173206.5075.qmail@hotmail.com> greetings sinizens gentle and perverse, earlier, Mark *thinking outside the box* C noted that << anyone selling a mailing list of the members of Sinister could expect top whack for it - over a thousand educated, computer-literate, mostly young punters, a marketeer's dream.>> which caused me a moment of reflective amusement pondering some of various manifestations of value that "top whack" holds across this spinning orb... believe you me, some mental pictures, regardless of the profundity of their perversity, are likely best left to dwell in reverie... but TOP WHACK conjures visions of excutive-level booty smacks, or dare I say it, a reverently firm spank upon the derriere of the deity. the highknee of the most high, if you will. on a scarier note, i learned today that in the world of tommorrow, (which as that scarlet afroed orphan is so fond of singing, is only a day away) those geniuses behind cable television will have sufficient demographic information on every amerikan household to individually taylor what adverts are piped into yr boob tube. when this marvel of marketing prowess comes to pass, i can scarcely imagine what sorts of tripe will come streaming out of my idiot box during simpsons commercial breaks. aside from the no brainers - babelaiden beer commercials, credit repair infomercials, and harranging pleas from the Dr. Gene Scott ministeries to send them a box of greenbacks poste haste or suffer immediate and extra uncomfortable damnation- (indian burns, wedgies,titty-twisters, and worse) i'm actually scared to see what sort of filth my demographic profile dredges up... ...fuzzy wuzzy animated characters extolling the virtues of controlled substances, the complimentary best-of box set complete with early demos that comes with every hedge trimming from the Billy Idol lawn care service, and outcall service from the Major Badass chain of short-term personal drill seargants who - as their jingle refrains - will help you get your shit together or feel the love of steel-toed boot leather across that lilly white ass you pantywaist nancy boy, now drop and give me fifty, hup hup hup.... needless to say, boob to the business world on this development. ---------------------- sin-city all this chatter about the sinister hooville makes me pine for bike lanes, cobblestones, open-air rummage sales, a rolling munchie wagon brimming with tomato pesto brie sandwiches farmhouse beer and decriminalized cannibus, friendly bums who can talk for hours about the golden age of hoboing, a bar with a fire pole inside, lots of lovely folks with sly mischevious grins always on their face and romance never far from their minds, happy elderly couples strolling hand in hand and chuckling about how the follies of youth are the fodder for growing old gracefully, community cats that frolic wherever they please and outnumber the tailless two-legged fools who feed them, a real live jug band with washboard and spoon percussion, lots of dodgy-looking alleys that empty out into idyllic meadows and streams, daily columns from nick currie on the diner's placemats, and an innovative calendar that makes everyday both saturday and payday. ---- at any rate, i'm outta steam, so you'll be spared the irono-poetic description of the pigeon's i saw making love on the way to work monday morning. and yes, bob is my uncle windisch ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MMarucco at xxx.com Thu Feb 24 18:07:16 2000 From: MMarucco at xxx.com (Marucco, Mike) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:07:16 -0500 Subject: Sinister: hello Message-ID: <3017EFC4FCC0D111AAB100805F6F25680491C108@lscexch2.limited.com> hi. my name is michael and I am new. i like stuart and his band and i don't like capital letters. i don't like punctuation either, but i will use it because of confusion i don't know the rules, so i hope i don't break any and i'm otherwise happy to be in here. if anyone wants to tell me about things and how they work here, it'd be nice to listen. i don't have good stories except when i met richard once and he let me forge stevie jackon's name i liked that. I don't know what a velocity girl is but i'd like to help i can wash dishes and draw things bye now michael +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Thu Feb 24 20:08:26 2000 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:08:26 EST Subject: Sinister: ooh ooh! Message-ID: <7d.188336b.25e6e9ba@aol.com> Hello sinister peeps! Firstly, is there a sinister village librarian. And if there's not, can I be one. And if there is then I'll just be a schoolgirl and help out at the library on weekends. In real life I live in the library. Well, not really, I just hide there at weekends, or after school. You can sit in one of the big comfy chairs, and read or even sleep. I once had a librarian wake me up to tell me the library was closing. The following conversation happened in the school lunch queue. Cool Girl (looking at badge): Belle and Sebastian? Me: They're a group Her: Oh I've heard of them. So you like their wee song? Me: Which wee song would that be? Her: The one that goes "ooh stick you". So I burst out laughing, and wished I had a friend with me to laugh as well. Last night I didn't straighten my hair, so now I look like little orphan Annie. And I have a new pinafore. Do you ever get it, when your walking along and people yell stuff at you, and you don't turn round, and then they spit on you, and try to make you turn round and yell back just so they can tell on you? On the subjects of schools, I failed my music test because someone was going to beat me up after school, and I was so worried. But it turned out ok because I avoided them, so I failed it for nothing. Aren't buses cool? I out my b&s tee shirt in the wash and it turned out blue. Oh dear. When I was putting up birthday posters for my friend of tigger, a boy asked me why. I said "because it's her birthday and she's obsessed with tigger". He said,"I'm obsessed with lesbians, but you don't see me getting posters of lesbians put up on my birthday." It's his birthday next week, does anyone have any lesbian pictures? Bye everyone. Jen xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Llywelynapgwilym at xxx.com Thu Feb 24 21:21:53 2000 From: Llywelynapgwilym at xxx.com (Llywelynapgwilym at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:21:53 EST Subject: Sinister: It is the true nature of man to learn from his mistakes - Fred Hoyle Message-ID: <42.20fd7c9.25e6faf1@aol.com> Names. What is in a name? Quite a lot actually. Here goes: three days ago my sister had a little baby, *aah*, and she's decided to call her "Isabella Catrin Augusta Lynn". Now, Catrin is a really pretty name (it's Welsh), and I don't have too much against Isabella (I might even call her Belle) but Augusta just reminds me of golf. I do, however, have to be a little grateful when I think that the other names being considered were Saschia and Taloola. Now these were just little gripes that I was going to keep to myself, but I read an article in The Times section 3 (the English Times) entitled "Fettucine, please don't fidget" addressing the issue that "wacky names are all the rage for posh parents", and it's true, where are people going to get off? It's not that I have a problem with odd or different names (just look at mine for Christ's sake), but I do have a thing against names like "Fifi Trixibelle" (-Paula Yates and Bob Geldof), "Elijah Bob Particus Guggi Q Hewson (-Bono and his wife), "Missy" (-Damon Albarn, I mean come on... Miss Missy Albarn!) or "2la" (-a real middle name), because I hate it when people try to be different or cool just for the sake of it. You just have to look at Zowie Bowie... he's changed his name to Joe. Good on him. Well I'm sorry if I've offended anyone who's called Wisteria (a flower) or Cumulus (a cloud), and for my over use of quote marks, and I'll be even more sorry if my sister reads this! Sooo, Lots of love and hugs, Ttfn, Llywelyn xxx "If there was only one truth you could still make a hundred paintings of it" - Pablo Picasso +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ThisSuffering at xxx.com Thu Feb 24 22:11:20 2000 From: ThisSuffering at xxx.com (ThisSuffering at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:11:20 EST Subject: Sinister: attention all belle et sebastianeers Message-ID: alright, los angeles, and southern california people. i want to see all of you respond to this email promptly. its about time we set up a meet up! all us sinisters should get to know each other, and set a day where we can do something.. 'fun'. please let me know where you all are.. cheers carlos xoxox +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.borgia at xxx.ca Thu Feb 24 23:01:26 2000 From: alexander.borgia at xxx.ca (Alexander Borgia) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:01:26 -0500 Subject: Sinister: [explosive report] [even bigger explosive report] Message-ID: <38B5B846.409F3654@sympatico.ca> [explosive report] The official report of the Toronto Sinister Meet Up was released today having not received any objection to the official version of events. They can be found here: http://www.angelfire.com/journal/sinibear/cajun.html [even bigger explosive report] The translations bureau of the firm Bear, Bear, Bear, & Nephew, & Son today released more documents from the stolen diary pages of Maurice Bear. Officials also announced that recently the firm had purchased the long lost famous masterpiece painting by the deceased Claude von Bear, Maurice Bear - Aristocrat in Exile. The purchase was made on e-Bay for an undisclosed amount but insiders say it was around £14 million. A company spokesperson indicated that the firm expected to recover the cost by issuing a limited edition print with the edition limited to 25 million with each one hand numbered and signed by the artist. Currently the painting is on display here: http://www.angelfire.com/journal/sinibear/maurice.html "Les Mémoires et les Pensées de Maurice Bear" --- In this explosive edition we see the great Maurice Bear recall his winter as a trapper wandering the frozen tundra with empty traps and only frozen berries and his deep thoughts maintaining his will to survive life in the desolation. And much, much more. (translations from the French courtesy of the firm Bear, Bear, Bear, & Nephew, & Son.) Maurice Bear - aristocrat in exile. Living in Texas where everything really is bigger. Without oil wells or cattle herds he is excluded from the societies of the elite. Deeply in love, he sets his thoughts to paper. We stole them. There she goes again, Mademoiselle la petite Jamais. No longer is she Never, she really is my little dove. I have grown fond of my nightly sponge baths. She tickles me with the bubbles and we laugh and we laugh and we laugh. We lounge around and languish in our love in front of a fireplace and listen to the hail hitting against the window. I tell her about my winter on the tundra. I recall my winter as a trapper wandering the frozen tundra with empty traps and only frozen berries and my deep thoughts maintaining my will to survive life in the desolation. Every day I would check the traps and they would be empty. I was stuck in a miserable cabin with no light and no rabbits. Only the fire in the barrel stove. Again she has used those hand cuffs. This time she left still chained to the bed when she left. Oh the pain, the pain. The pain. Does she not know about the time when there was no rabbits and my bottom got frozen with a trap stuck to my fur and I had to wait four days for it to thaw off? I was dragging the chain in my deep thoughts for many weeks in the howling desolation. Oh the pain, the pain. The pain. She is afraid, my petite-Jamais. My public wants me, and she is afraid, my petite-Jamais. She fears that I will run away with one of those adoring fans. Does she not know that I lover her so, my little dove? Oh the pain, the pain. The pain. Maybe I should run away. This land called Sinister Village sounds like a very posh queendom. It must be because their Queen Mother is Miss Honey, and their Queen is Velocity Farewell. Ah, such a lovely name. Perhaps it is French? She conjures in my mind images of red jacket riding outfits and tan shapely breeches. I will languish by the fireside with this Queen and tell her my tales about my winter on the tundra when I was left with only my deep thoughts and frozen berries to maintain my will to live. Oh the pain, the pain. I cannot leave you my petite-jamais. My heart belongs to you. Oh the pain, the pain. The pain. Here she comes again. She is naked. I see her coming to me. Yes my little dove. Alas, she is coming for my sponge bath. We shall laugh and laugh and laugh. "Take me! You make me mad woman! Let me dive upon you and rub my furry body all over your pearly nakedness! Chain me to your bed! Chain me to your heart!" Yes my little dove, yes. (c) 2000 Maurice Bear - Les Mémoires et les Pensées de Maurice Bear [business affairs] An announcement sent the markets into a flurry of activity that has finally settled down with all markets showing gains. Rabbit Brand (tm), a subsidiary of Bear, Bear, Bear, & Nephew, & Son, the rabbit supply service announced today that it is contracting with Lixi's Pimping Woodland Mammals to have supplied 20,000 rabbits for use in their lavatory division. This is expected to create some new jobs in Sinister Village in the commercial laundry and dry cleaning sector as well as the landscaping business.. Rabbit Brand (tm) has opened up its new marketing campaign to try and corner the rabbit supply market. Promoting as being more environmentally friendly, Rabbit Brand (tm) is trying to convince humans what bears have known for years. Paper kills trees, trees give oxygen and bears like to climb trees. Rabbits live a long time, mow lawns and trim shrubbery, as well as weeding gardens, and they are also more absorbent than paper and wash out clean very easily because shit doesn't stick to their fur. A company spokesman said, "After all, there are a lot of bottoms out there." Alexander +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From caroline945 at xxx.com Thu Feb 24 23:08:47 2000 From: caroline945 at xxx.com (caroline smith) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:08:47 GMT Subject: Sinister: just a quickie...you know what i mean Message-ID: <20000224230847.24591.qmail@hotmail.com> hello again, i just wanted to know if there would be a wh smith in the wee sinister village, if so i have much experience in this area. but it must stock ink polaroids/nalda said and other b+s related stories so i can sneek a peek when i am meant to be rearrangaing the chart books, if thats alright with everyone that is. personally i think a second hand book shop would be much more in keeping. but, someone's probly already said that. i think thats everything, again sorry for verbal inadequacies, still finding the old e-mail format a little difficult, please forgive me with lots and lots and lots of love caroline xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (ooh ooh just one more thing, does anybody know what has happened to broadcast, they were playing atp but don't seem to be any more - i'm gutted, also everyone listen to ben and jason, its lovely!) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trollopinpaisley at xxx.com Fri Feb 25 01:15:49 2000 From: trollopinpaisley at xxx.com (Valerie Solanas) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:15:49 -0800 Subject: Sinister: we're manufacturing hearts... Message-ID: <31583EF76FAE3D1178E200807CFD6BF8@trollopinpaisley.fcmail.com> hello and a big raising the roof for c-Dog tha indie kool queen, baby, back in black. as far as nappies, i mean sinister village, yeah....it's shaping up. i had this brainstorm last night. I could run the animal shelter and the village riding stable! and support it by my artistic and publishing endeavors, writing and cartooning in my spare time and holding fund raisers. we also need an organic farm collective/natural foods market, and alternative energy sources to make our village efficient and revolutionary. Velocity, sorry if i confused you. i'm schizophrenic sometimes and so i constantly change the names on my email, so georgine and LJ are one and the same. (it's a little gay thing, you wouldn't understand) or maybe you would. yeah, and i can run the lisa and chelsea salon, maybe it could be just part time, and sort of attached to like the bookstore, or one of the coffee shops or whatever. i only say that because i would definitely not be the one for doing administration, supply and inventory like you would need to run an actual cafe. i'm more of the idea woman. i'm feeling motivated. i ahve new comics going. i'm looking for a new job since the one i was prospecting wwas being rude and not letting me in on the story, so screw them. i'm getting involved in teh big gay things. i saw lots of cute girls on campus today, and felt reasonably okay considering that i look pretty disgusting today. a couple days ago, it was great, i finally found someone who agrees with me about lili taylors crushworthiness!! and we sat drooling over janeane garofalo together. it was so much fun, GOD i needed that. I wanted to say to the person i dont' remember what your name is who theorized that I was behind the arsemuscles fiasco, you provided me with out=loud laughter, as cruel as it was. i might be going to see a band play that is all lesbian. maybe. i dont' know if i feel up to going out in public. right now i have this immense sense of physical relief at being alone for once in this day. My friend katy just told me today that my body language is extremely girly. now i'm rather embarrassed. i always thought i was pretty androgynous. maybe i am truly femmy. i was thinking last night, i'm just a little girl who loves horses. and waht's wrong with that? so what if i live in my own fantasy world about 60% of the time. the trick is finding a way to make a living with that. someone quoted Adorable in thier subject line the other day, and that was splendid. mary timony is my co-pilot, LJ http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange/buxoms.html ***The Buxoms: Svengali-free since 1998!!*** ______________________________________________________ Sent by FortuneCity Mail at http://www.fortunecity.com Join now and receive 20Mb of free web space and E-mail +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From igh1 at xxx.uk Thu Feb 24 23:04:31 2000 From: igh1 at xxx.uk (Ian Hatcher) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:04:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: ooh ooh! In-Reply-To: <7d.188336b.25e6e9ba@aol.com> Message-ID: miss owl scribbled: > The following conversation happened in the school lunch queue. > > Cool Girl (looking at badge): Belle and Sebastian? > Me: They're a group > Her: Oh I've heard of them. So you like their wee song? > Me: Which wee song would that be? > Her: The one that goes "ooh stick you". ah, the mighty daphne and celeste. i've seen them live, y'know. and let me just tell all you lovely sinisterites and sinisteresses that the likely follow up single, U.G.L.Y, is WORSE than ooh stick you. yup. hard to believe i know, but there you go. what do people think about the field mice?? i heard them on the tape tree thingy, and thought they were quite good, and the last time you kids recommended cds t'was felt. and that could be put down as quite a life-changing experience, on a par perhaps with the first time i picked up 'sinister' from my friend's desk . . . once again, t'was jen who wrote: > I out my b&s tee shirt in the wash and it turned out blue. Oh dear. i covered my bus t-shirt in southern and red bull on new years eve. but it came out in the wash. so it's not really the same i guess. oh. i'm going to see jj72 on friday - yay!!! okey dokey, i can feel a storm brewing in honeyland cos of the lack of b&s content, so i'm off back to the sahdows of lurkersville . . . ian. ps how good is it on "stole a pretty bride" by hefner when it goes all loud . . . it just came on on my walkman, and i'm busy hiding after singing it VERY loudly in the ppotah room :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Fri Feb 25 06:45:59 2000 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 01:45:59 -0500 Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian live in a beautiful mansion Message-ID: the subject here is referring to an odd dream i had last night. quite b&s related. not sure how it happened, but i ended up at a large mansion, with formal gardens and a picnic table squarely placed in the yard. belle and sebastian lived there. i mean, all of them. even stu d. he was there, you know. me, him, beans geddes, and two girls i know from chicago who don't listen to belle and sebastian were sitting around the picnic table and making fun of chris's legs. i'm not kidding. i kept sticking up for him, saying he had nice legs, but stu kept putting him down, all in jest, of course. i woke up and almost instantly my eyes fell on the twattybus (cripes, does anybody here even remember that nickname anymore?) poster placed on the slanted wall above/next to my bed, and i got confused as to what the hell i had been dreaming about anyway. so a sinister village, eh? i'd like to run the microbiology lab at the hospital, please. but if that's not twee enough, maybe i could be the nursery marm. you know, look after the kiddies until they're allowed into the village at large. or maybe i'd run a petting zoo filled with goats and lambs and horses and ducks and cats and dogs and anything else that's not too likely to bite you if you touch them. there'd be anteaters and lemurs, too. because i like anteaters and lemurs a lot. anteaters look like great big muppets, you know. they do. as you may or may not have guessed, i'm a bit stressed from doing my thesis (i can hear you mumbling "is she still going on about that?", so hush up and be nice), and i swear if have to read another article about active efflux of bile salts by e coli i'm gonna puke all my bile salts right up. which reminds me of an amusing conversation i had the other night. a friend and i were discussing breath fresheners, and i told him about my confusion with "breath asure" the pill you swallow that's supposed to freshen your breath from the inside. here's my problem: if you swallow it, it ceases having anything to do with your breath the minute it passes by the larynx. i said that perhaps it relied on odors travelling up the esophagus. my friend noted that if odors from our stomachs were always coming out of our mouths, our breath would smell a lot worse than it does. so we decided that those little breath asure tabs are pure bunk. i still like thinking about what the world would be like if we could actually smell what's going on inside us, because it's got to be just horrid. all those acids and foodstuffs and bacteria grinding around inside us, making stanky odors and keeping us alive all at once. with that said i'm going to have some more apple juice and get back to work. -kerry "roses are red / and ready for plucking / you're sixteen / and ready for high school" -kurt vonnegut, _breakfast_of_champions_ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Fri Feb 25 13:45:15 2000 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 05:45:15 PST Subject: Sinister: b******s Message-ID: <20000225134515.58167.qmail@hotmail.com> hi. ok,why didn't anyone warn me about muse? muse=CRAP CRAP CRAP!BUT,this concert got me introduced with this absolutely brilliant new band SOULWAX!what an experience!a fusion of funk+rough guitars+electronic zoundz.beck-meets-deus.the band is from belgium and they are close friends with deus.if in the uk check them out either with muse or with the wannadies. anyway. that same night i met another belleand sebastian psycho lover.i suggested him to join the list because he kept on asking me about it so i said just join it then! the next day-wednesday that was-i had a horrible adventure which eventually ended up in a hospital.i thought it was a horrible stomach ache but it turned out that i have sth like a kidney infection... at least i didn't die-or am i dead and i don't know? anyway,i need more tests.i went to this surgery here in wolves and because i wasn't registered the bitch in the reception practically kicked me out!i mean there i was almost dead and she said sorry.ok,but she didn't even suggest that i should go to the hospital!i mean excuse me but i was in so much pain and agony that i couldn't think straight-but the good ladies in boots helped me.so GO TO BOOTS! anyaway,i think i'm gonna be fine.but for the next days i allow to all of you to treat me really nicely....:) so,the summary of todays class is:SOULWAX.say it again:SOULWAX. ok,bye bye and shake it all around. tera,kidneyfailure ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Fri Feb 25 14:53:08 2000 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:53:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Queer as F*** Message-ID: Hi folks, especially queer ones, Blatant list abuse about to appear I'm afraid, but as the TV programme known as Queer As Folk has been heralded in these parts I would give you all the opportunity to *WIN* the jeep from the series, 2 tickets to San Francisco (probably a shit prize if you're from San Francisco) and lots of Queer As Folk goodies. Obviously, it's not me giving away the prizes it's The Terrence Higgins Trust, and it's all for charity folks. One English pound per raffley type ticket. Mail me if you want one / some / loads. I know this isn't entirely practical over email netty things, but bollocks to practicals, unless it's in St Trinian's biology lessons or something. I guess I can write you name and address on them and you can owe me a quid or something. So then you can drive down in a queer jeep shouting queer things queerly at queer folk. What fun... Now to bury the list abuse in a heap of rhetoricus nonsense. Umm... but I won't go on about being the king of the fish people as apparently that's made Lixi think I'm a village nutter. I was just telling things as I see them, through King Fishy eyes. Ummm... oh I know I'll talk about The Byrds, they're great, Gene Clark is a songwriter extraordinaire, Mcguinn can pick a 12 string, Crosby sings like an angel, Notorious Byrd Brothers is a top album even though Gene had long gone, when he made Gene Clark & The Gosdin Brothers which is a fantastic pop album. Sorry, that was all in aid of getting the boy Moore to go and listen to some nice 60's pop. Run along Moore, do as your told... And while I'm writing to individuals I have just remembered that I haven't posted Mr Dean's Gene Clark tape so could you send me your address again Mr Dean as I've since moved. Sorry. Without over-doing the sorry's, though I'm English so it's impossible to apologise too much, I'm sorry again for the above drivel, but it is Friday so I should be and want to be in the pub... well that's my excuse. Te ra, Martin ear confection recordings (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) p.s. Slugs really can't ice skate. I don't know why they bother... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dunca_chap at xxx.com Fri Feb 25 16:02:19 2000 From: dunca_chap at xxx.com (Adam Chapman) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 16:02:19 GMT Subject: Sinister: hymn from a village... Message-ID: <20000225160219.86725.qmail@hotmail.com> Unless anyones already claimed it, i'd quite like to run the sinister village bus service, i mean no one would use it, but its kind of essential really, and besides, it'd give me an excuse to be rude to people who annoy me, which seems to be something of a specialism to those occupied in said occupation in Norwich [though they're SOO polite mostimes]. Failing that, i could run the multitude of sports facilities which seem to be in demand [Cricket, Basket ball, football even], unless actual experience disqualifies me [i *have* actually done these things...]. B+S content alert. No, really. I have to say i quite liked the stu d contrbutions, though i've not heard enough of Looper to really voice an opinion [i realise saying this may cast me into the outer darkness of tastelessness in some minds, but i'll miss him - in as much as someone who's never seen them live can], it'll be interesting to witness the difference [if any]... eventually. Ting, ting! Adam ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From merci_buckets at xxx.com Fri Feb 25 16:12:41 2000 From: merci_buckets at xxx.com (merci buckets) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 16:12:41 GMT Subject: Sinister: Content zero Style minus one Message-ID: <20000225161241.87444.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello chaps, I haven't posted before because I've felt concern at my lack of literate flair. Any other lurkers feel like that?? Personally, I think personality is very much overrated. Personality is style, character is form. Anyway, bollox to all that witty shite, I'm here now and here I'm going to stay. I hope that doesn't sound too aggressive. I've been bottling that up for a while, and feel much better now, Anybody in Norn Iron wanna be in a B&S covers band, just for fun? I'm Stevie, of course! Thank you all, you've been very helpful, John ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.alder at xxx.uk Fri Feb 25 16:13:38 2000 From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 16:13:38 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F3352EFA@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk> Here in Lunding, it's the sort of day when, if the dinner lady's nice, you're allowed out without your coat. Cast ne'er a clout 'til May is out? Cast your clouts NOW, I say! Camden is sunny and it really couldn't look much nicer. OK, you could get rid of the stinky hot dog stands and maybe add a few clothes shops that don't sell great big platform boots and gothy skanky stuff so I could have SOMETHING TO DO IN MY LUNCH BREAK, OTHER THAN EAT DRIED OLD SANDWICHES AND STARE AT THE BITS OF PAPER ON MY DESK but all in all, it makes you feel kinda perky. Lixi, will you use more apostrophes and commas and quotation marks and things like that in your posts? They come out sort of like this: <0:/!* and it looks awfully glamorous. Or is it secret code and are you a double agent about to expose us all to the tabloids? On the run-out groove of Hey There Girl by Smokey Wagon, it says "Squeeze the orange, drink the juice" so it reminds me of my fair self (as if I needed reminding) every time I play that particular record. Arantxa did once say that she thought of me as a big orange, so there you are. And my mum used to call me Lucy Lemon when I was a young'un. Citrus fruits - the new black, no? OK, no. I hope you won't begrudge me all that waffling when I tell you that there follow next a couple of sentences containing pure, unadulterated Content. I don't think anyone's spotted this already - there's a little interview with Richie C on Amazon. Not particularly interesting, but seeing as you're all fans and that, you might want to know that it can be found at: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/feature/-/17008/026-7988810-3383028 But watch out, they might try to sell you some rekkids while you're not looking. Martin R has just written >>it is Friday so I should be and want to be in the pub... and I second that emotion. Wholeheartedly. Yes. Juicy Lucy This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. -- MCI WorldCom Year 2000 information http://www.wcom.co.uk/2000 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Fri Feb 25 17:42:54 2000 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:42:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Won't someone understand me, help me bear the strain, say you feel the same way, say I'm not to blame Message-ID: <38B6BF1E.F104C8@cs.strath.ac.uk> What a very good musical week. On Sunday Cinerama created quite a pleasant racket, on Tuesday Arab Strap were miserably brilliant while Stereototal were great P!O!P! from Germany, and on Wednesday Momus was quite literally completely bonkers, and GRATE. And yesterday I saw American Beauty, which has very little to do with music except for having some good 60s/70s ROCK in it, but is still brill. After Arab Strap I had to squeeze into a pub booth beside the ample bottoms of StuM, Richard, Stevie, Sarah and Chris. B&S members, eh? You don't see any for a while then 5 of the bastards turn up at once. I was tempted to ask if the new album would EVER be finished, but thought it wise to keep my mouth shut and not suffer a beating. Then who should I see the next night, but Wee Karn and old StuD. He looked vaguely contented. First off, I'd reccomend anyone to enter any future competitions run by The Gay Dirty Den, as the rewards for winning are many and varied. And also give you the means to start your own band. Though since I have no songs, I'll have to steal his Looper one which was quite simply Iantastic. Starry and others who participated in the campaign to waste the Daily Record's money for their Keep The Clause (Section 28) campaign will be glad to know that the Record were duly swamped with all manner of rubbish, including an old garden gate and a rancid mattress. Ho, ho. The Sinister village, eh? Since I'm the head teacher, that also makes me in charge of PE, so there will be no cricket or basketball teams, since I'm rubbish at both sports. I have no idea why Velocity made me the teacher (has anyone actually learned anything from me except how the delete button on their keyboard works?) but I'd very much like to take up the baton where Mr Bronson from Grange Hill left off, and generally be really nasty and wear a wig. Actually, can I be the Pub Landlord instead, much like Al Murray except a zillion times less funny? Jarkko could do all the work for very little pay while all the profits disappear down my gob. And I'd quite like to be on the footie team, if Lucy will let me and if my dodgy knee ever gets better. The idea of Lucy as big Ron Atkinson is one I find strangely appealing... Jason L: > they would rather listen to shit (i.e. > limp biscuit, corn, and the like) For goodness sake Jason, if you want to stay on Sinister you're going to have to brush up on your metal knowledge. Write after me, Limp Bizkit and Korn. Oh no, correcting spelling already! The transformation is starting! Do they allow internet access in mental asylums? I was just wondering how Joe Brooker managed to send his posts. Jenowl (who is the ultimate. Not the ultimate B&S fan, just the ultimate) used the work 'moke' a lot. I'd like an explanation, please. I suspect it's just one of those words you use at school and no-one over the age of 20 knows what the hell it means, and when you're at school you laugh at the old people for being old and not understanding ANYTHING, as Jen is probably laughing at me now. Two new listees I like: Samantha for her email address and Francesca for saying > (i'm new love me) which immediately made me love her. I also love George Dickie, because he said "I LOVE KIRSTY WARK", which is quite possibly the funniest thing I have read ever in the world. Ooh, I want to go to London so I can arse dance with Sarah and Leyla. People usually say I look like an arse while dancing, but I think that's a different thing. Liz: > So, to whoever put A Marriage Made In Heaven (is that really Isabella Rosselini?) > on their tape twee offering, a big smacking kiss. Mwah. No, do not shy away > in fear! I mean you no harm! It was none other than the spiffingly grate Tim Gardner. The theme from Fireball XL5 was another highlight of this wonderful tape. Ian H: > what do people think about the field mice?? Completely brilliant, if you ask me. Or completely shite, if you ask Hopkins. Owen talked about his problem for a week of only being able to listen to Joy Division. I too am suffering a similar obsession, but with The Go-Betweens. If only they weren't such complete BLUDDY GENIUSES I'd be able to listen to the new Yo La Tengo album, but as yet there seems to be no let-up. Anyway, it IS Friday and in about 2 minutes I SHALL be in the pub. Goodbye. Alasdair xx "That's just like me I'd evade waking up if the alarm wouldn't ring I'd walk into quicksand if I knew how far I'd sink" -Robert Forster "I'm not strong, I'm not brave" -Grant Mclennan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Fri Feb 25 18:30:57 2000 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (kinky angel) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:30:57 EST Subject: Sinister: wanking through friday Message-ID: <20000225183057.57751.qmail@hotmail.com> I know us little ontarian sinister boys/girls can't stop telling you all how much fun we had at our meetup. My new little teddy bear, Jean-Louis, and my little moggies are not getting along. So Jean-Louis kicked their asses...Oh well... Went by the Condom Shack on Sunday, stoned outta my tree, and what were they playing but IYFS really loud so you could hear it on the street. I went in and bought some, ugh, well it's called Probe so you figure it out. But the little boy who was playing the CD had turquoise hair and a lip ring and was utterly gorgeous. And while the little man and I were talking to said cute boy, two guys walked in off the street and asked if IYFS was on the radio or if he was playing the CD...it was another B&S mini-meetup with complete strangers. Fun fun...I'm still trying to figure out what to sell at my lil'shop...lil' shop of horrors... :) It will have lot's of sweets and chocolates, even though I don't like them...and crips and soda...NO PEPSI!!! And if Diana doesn't have an art gallery I would like her to paint trees on all the walls. I would live above the stoor and big bird would visit me everyday...no that's Mr Hooper...how many remember him??? I should go now, my hands are hurting me and I should really be doing data entry right now... the angel blackwell PS, don't be too intimidated to post, I'm never witty, but as anyone who's met me can attest, I never shut up... };> PPS, everyone make sure to visit #sinister... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GardeningAtNight at xxx.com Fri Feb 25 18:52:52 2000 From: GardeningAtNight at xxx.com (GardeningAtNight at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:52:52 EST Subject: Sinister: somebody hold me Message-ID: <4c.21ed30d.25e82984@aol.com> alasdair spake sweetly: << Two new listees I like: Samantha for her email address >> And not for my charm and wit and all that? I guess I'll take what I can get. and also: << Jenowl (who is the ultimate. Not the ultimate B&S fan, just the ultimate) used the work 'moke' a lot. I'd like an explanation, please. I suspect it's just one of those words you use at school and no-one over the age of 20 knows what the hell it means, and when you're at school you laugh at the old people for being old and not understanding ANYTHING, as Jen is probably laughing at me now. >> I've got to write up a big list of words that Jen has used and post it to her, because a lot of the time I don't know what in BLUDDY hell she's talking about. And it's not because I'm old, it's just because I'm American. I hate that, being foreign. I know a boy named Eddie who calls himself Moke and I believe that I hate him even more than Kid Rock. But maybe he's slagging* himself and he doesn't even know it? I hope so. Tell us Jen. before that, erica said: << I saw a girl with a Belle and Sebastian badge on her bag going up an escaltor to Oxford Circus, with a big huge SUPERLOVERS bag. Was that *you*? Sorry I didn't say hello. >> I pinned one of my badges on my backpack at school, but by noon I'd lost it. I sent my best friend off looking for it and made her late for class but she finally found it. Now I'm afraid to put it back on. Is there a trick to it or something? When I see Looper I'm going to pin them all (2 sets) on my shirt which will probably leave me looking like a dork, like Arthur in Velvet Goldmine. But it's just that we've got something that no one else does. No, not the guarantee of getting the piss knocked out of you after school. That's just a bonus.. Anyways, I've been home sick since Wednesday. I went to the doctor yesterday and they refused to tell me that I have strep throat. But I think I do. I should at least, if I feel like I do. But I got some pity out of my mom so she let me stop by the record store, and I picked up the new Apples in Stereo single and Guitar World with the Pumpkins in it. They're getting uglier everyday. On the cover of Kerrang James Iha looks a bit like Monica Lewinsky. Scary. I heard a great song by the Dead Milkmen the other day. I'm sure I'm really far behind, but it just made me smile and think of you all for some reason. The best bit goes: "You'll dance to anything by The Smiths / You'll dance to anything by Depeche Mode / You'll dance to anything by any bunch of stupid Europeans who come over here with their big hairdos intent on taking our money instead of giving your cash, where it belongs, to a decent American artist like myself!" See, now I know the real truth. If you look closely, you'll see Struan's started using volumizer. I love you Sinister. Thank you for loving me. Samantha * am i making up words again? it sounds like a word. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Feb 25 18:51:12 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 19:51:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Are You Scared To Get Nappy? Message-ID: <001101bf7fc4$da478120$5e90243e@itjfvkli> I've got a new Miles Davis album, "Someday My Prints Will Come". He's taken his film down the chemist's to get it developed and now he's waiting for his photos to come back. Good old Miles. "This Life" has got a chapter called "Miles Smiles" but it hasn't got a chapter called "Miles Runs the Voodoo Down". Bit of a missed opportunity there. It's so easy to read that it's like not reading at all. Still, I feel that it's helping me get inside the mind of Young Britain. I've been trying to get a job translating sado-masochist website. They invited me to have a look round to get a bit of a feel for it, but I could only see the bits that "guests" can see, but there was a site map. They have a kind of agony aunt service, and there was definitely something in there about arse muscle damage. Sadly, I wasn't allowed to read it, but if I get the job, you'll be the first to know all about it. Sinister Portmerion - will there be any civil disobedience? I'm not going if not. This album by The Scream really does go up to eleven, doesn't it? How do they do that thing where they make an electric guitar sound like a big fucking car that's just slammed its brakes on? Can you do it on an acoustic guitar? Or does it sound like a toddler falling off his trike? Will there be golden copulations in the streets at Sinister Portmerion? I do hope so. Fucking in the bushes, things like that. Thanks to Mark for helping me out with Bob the Builder. You really are a diamond geezer. I've got headphones on so I don't have to listen to the stupid fucking neighbours, but the floor vibrates anyway. It doesn't half get my goat. I'm listening to "Ooh Child" because it was on "Ally McBeal" and I found it deeply moving. I also found Fluffy's monkey-related comment deeply moving the other day. Martin, put my name down for one of those arse bandit raffle tickets, will you? Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Fri Feb 25 22:29:20 2000 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 22:29:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: a spaced boy dream Message-ID: greetings and salutations I had a B&S dream the other night so I thought that I'd tell you about it so that you can decode my psyche and then laugh at all of my mental foibles. I was in a shopping mall with a couple of my friends but it wasn't just any old shopping mall it was the one from the film Mallrats which you should watch if you haven't seen it cos it's GRATE. Anyway while at the mall we bumped into stu m and belle (except in the dream she looked nothing like the real belle but I knew it was her anyway) and stu told me that the album would be out soon, meanwhile belle started singing the Ooberman song Why Did My Igloo Collapse and so I got all excited cos she was singing it rather well and I started jumping up and down and telling her not to stop. Then I woke up. Well that's about it for my stupid dream so I'll just quickly appologise to anybody who took my recomendation of Corduroy as a reason to buy some of their stuff cos I listened to the other CD of their's and it was total crap, hmmmm, sorry about that folks. Other news I went to the uni careers office the other day in order to ask about possible postgrad courses in IT or even a job that provides training. Was seriously freaked out when the careers councilor suggested that as I write and as I have a huge knowledge of/interest in music I should become a music journalist. Now admitedly it would be a great career but it's never gonna happen to someone with no experience and no contacts and I was just a bit shocked that she suggested it. I mean aren't I supposed to be going in there with plans of that sort and isn't she supposed to tell me not to be so stupid and to get a job with computers. sorry that this wasn't interesting by the way but it kinda freaked me out and I felt the need to tell someone. right I'm off to the jazz club to see Midnight Blue play, have a good weekend kids love owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox at xxx.com Fri Feb 25 23:58:13 2000 From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 23:58:13 GMT Subject: Sinister: I'm not a chess problem - I'm a free range chicken Message-ID: <20000225235813.86233.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear Alasdair I'm glad you asked. Most folk are inconsiderate about these things. So much for 'care in the community'. Communitarianism, by the way, reportedly means that if you smoke on the street in certain US towns, your neighbours come round with a baseball bat. (What they do with it, the report didn't say. A game of baseball, perhaps?) Game. O, that reminds me. My move? Knight (the one on the right - that's your left) to Queen's Fourth. That should give you Bishop's Finger. I'm serious - look at it for a while and see if you can get out of it. Only a pawn in their game, W.B. Murphy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Sat Feb 26 02:03:18 2000 From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 18:03:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: of trux, hair and duct-taped badges Message-ID: <20000226020318.9331.qmail@web114.yahoomail.com> sinners one and all, someone made my mind go off on a tangent with the mention of big hair and b&s. which made me think that along with upside down badges as identifiers, sinister types could make their hair very big and wear tight black jeans at all times. it's quite the identifier. but you might get beaten up looking for a tiny upside down badge on that part of the population whose actual style this is. even at indierock shows. oh. abandon plan. abandon now. it's hard to get people into tight jeans, i think. maybe it's just that you'll only wear tight jeans if you're born in tight jeans. anyway, i'm going to a rawk show tonight and tight jeans are on my mind perhaps b/c of this. also, i've got to tell you something about duct tape. it keeps the badges on, just duct tape the hell outta the back so the sharp bit stays on. and duct tape is silver. silver is always good. ALWAYS (don't even try to negate this, b/c i won't believe you.) it goes well with bright spring colours too, like a nice transition from the grey and black of winter. in fact, i'm wearing light orange with shiny grey pants and silver cardigan right now! and peter miller said, "they make an electric guitar sound like a big fucking car that's just slammed its brakes on" which begs repeating and to be a call out in some metal mag with ads for monster truck shows, porn and beer hats. which i mention because i went to a monster truck show not too long ago. a motor extravaganza to be exact, held inside giant and very grey and cement cold and harshly overlit BC Place stadium. TRUX!!! oh, it was so good and strange. and loud! i had big fluorescent orange earplugs in, but the serious people had big headphones from army surplus stores... my favourite truck was "monster patrol", simply for the word "patrol" (well, also b/c the truck was orange and purple and rawked w/ abandon) like, i'm going on record-shopping patrol, or movie-patrol, or what. it's good, really, use it. and one more thing about monster trucking, b/c really, it had a big effect on me and not in some ironic or anthropological way, but in a genuine, this is the world, this is how things can be sometimes way. there was a streaker! yes, he ran naked but for his white sneakers, the full length of the stadium only to be tackled at the other side by security. awesome. so, this letter seems to be very skid-oriented... um. but i have been listening to a lot of magnetic fields lately. ah, good. i'm trying not to let the sin-city occupy my mind too much as it's yet another level of reality to add to what i'm trying to deal with already. but who am i kidding. if someone draws a map, i will look at it for hours. and then go into some kind of paralyzed mind-fucked state due to mini never-to-be-finished essays taking the controls. funny that the whole Y2K thing just was so forgotten when nothing happened. i mean, it's like all that freaking out never happened and it's la de da da da. just something i was thinking (obviously...) so what if the leap year proves disasterous? it's too bad the village can't be up and running by feb 29 (you know, the apocalypse.) You really do make my head spin in such ways. Robyn ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GardeningAtNight at xxx.com Sat Feb 26 02:54:01 2000 From: GardeningAtNight at xxx.com (GardeningAtNight at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 21:54:01 EST Subject: Sinister: wig shops, duct tape tales, and love songs Message-ID: robyn thoughtlessly spake: << sinister types could make their hair very big and wear tight black jeans at all times. it's quite the identifier. >> Did you ever stop to think about the Sinister members who may be lacking in the hair department? That's not me of course, I think I've got too much hair actually but at least I know I'll never go bald. I'm just thinking of the less fortunate, as always! We'll need a wig shop in our village then. With this haven of hair, bald Sinister members will never again have to face the humiliation of being misidentified as fans of, oh, Steps or something. I nominate myself as the owner of this wig shop. Jen, will you be the schoolgirl who works for free in the afternoons sweeping up odd bits of hair? You can pick the shop name, because a day of cough medicine for my non-strep throat has left me kind of loopy so nothing's coming to mind. and also: << also, i've got to tell you something about duct tape. it keeps the badges on, just duct tape the hell outta the back so the sharp bit stays on. and duct tape is silver. silver is always good. ALWAYS (don't even try to negate this, b/c i won't believe you.) >> Wouldn't that make it all lumpy? I guess if I were going for the "cool" look I'd be using a Korn badge or something, though. My best friend duck tapes her shoes. People don't seem to appreciate the silvery "I can see myself in your shoes" quality of it though. I don't own any tape though, so my shoes are much nicer than hers. It seems that whenever you pull the tape off it leaves a nasty grey residue which isn't very silvery at all. A guy named Jason always duct tapes "FBI" on his black sweatshirt and goes around school trying to incite riots far too early in the morning. and still more: << but i have been listening to a lot of magnetic fields lately. >> Me too. I only have volumes 1 and 3 of the Love Songs though. I need someone to recommend me another good record of theirs. When making mix tapes for my friends I can't help but throw on Magnetic Fields songs. But the thing is that you can't put on just one, at least not with the love songs. I always end up breaking the golden mixtape rule and putting on 4 or 5. My mom listens to them sometimes and she loves them too, but she always walks around shaking her head saying "this is nonsense" during A Chicken with its Head Cut Off. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From colin.mowat at xxx.net Sat Feb 26 03:35:03 2000 From: colin.mowat at xxx.net (Colin Mowat) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 03:35:03 -0000 Subject: Sinister: please, please not the wig Message-ID: <005c01bf800a$78391b60$890f2cc3@default> Saturday 26 February 2000 03:29am Dear People, just got woken up by two Steps fans pulling each others hair out in front of my house, they weren'y fighting, they enjoy that sort of thing.........well checked for mail and...... GardeningAtNight wrote: <> please, please not the wig........let me have the upside down badge. Colin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mhintz at xxx.edu Sat Feb 26 05:50:38 2000 From: mhintz at xxx.edu (Matthew Hintz) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 00:50:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: ***the hedgehogs smoked some fags and went to sleep unaware of future horrors. Message-ID: This Sinister village idea is beginning to frighten me. I recall images from _the Village of the Damned_; however, now everyone is wearing corduroy instead of bleach blonde bobs. (Miss Honey excepted) Or Smurf village, but everyone is wearing thick glasses instead of blue skin. (Peter Miller accepted). Living and loving Matthew Stolen Kisses http://stolenkisses.tripod.com 'I'm jealous of the rain.' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tobli301 at xxx.se Sat Feb 26 09:58:19 2000 From: tobli301 at xxx.se (Tobias Lilja) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 10:58:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: That nice morning feeling Message-ID: <002501bf8040$029eff60$c4e9ec82@b196.ryd.student.liu.se> Hi I'm new here but I've been lurking around on the list before. During the whole "vote for the brit award scheme" now wasn't that fun to be reminded of. It's saturday morning and I just got out of bed and got the message I've now got a voice. So now I just had to let you know it's a pity I dont get to sit around every morning, just in the weekends, and still I'm a student so I think I deserve a few more lazy mornings. On to the BnS content, i've listened to them since I found IYFS a couple of years ago and started to vacum the record stores for the other records. On the whole Stu D thing I think it's sad cause I 'm the sort of person who can't be bothered with a whole album of spoken word but I love how a space boy dream breaks up the album and a century of elvis is a bit funny. But then again who am I to tell StuD what to do. Now I'm listening to and old mix tape I made maybe two years ago. It's funny how you just stop listening to some music even if you love it when you hear it again. Like right now "wide to recieve" with Mozzer is on and I haven't heard it for at least a couple of months, probably more. But it's great. And the T shirts you could buy at the concerts where it said wide to recive at the bottom bit of the back. Now that's funny. Hobart paving with st Etienne came on gotta go. See you soon /Toby +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redelvis at xxx.net Sat Feb 26 10:58:10 2000 From: redelvis at xxx.net (JR?) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 02:58:10 -0800 Subject: Sinister: feeling like a fixture set in 1966... References: <002501bf8040$029eff60$c4e9ec82@b196.ryd.student.liu.se> Message-ID: <38B7B1C2.626127A8@pacbell.net> It's 2:42 a.m. in los angeles. in the morning (10:00 AM) flaming lips/looper tickets go on sale, im sure some of you are fans of them, they play at the El Rey aparently. and i'm all intrigued about this aparent los angeles meet up. but i feel kinda bad, i havent read anything for the past couple weeks. it's been hectic busy and i decided to pull my pants up and delete everything today. and so i did, well i read a couple special peoples posts, i wont point anyone out so assume its you. and i read the last couple days at least. see my problem is i'm on about 20 lists or something and 3 have more traffic than this list. you'd think i'd learn. but i think i'm pretty much caught up now. I developed a cold today. I've been listening to Rage Against The Machine. I'm also seeing the Yo La Tengo show, and the Quasi show. I like Modest Mouse. in the dark we mix sparks, Daniel Ryder http://foolarchy.com/redelvis http://www.gurlpages.com/music/jnthn icq-1010543 aim-coxonryder i'm not going to take any risks this time... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sugarbum1 at xxx.com Sat Feb 26 13:07:37 2000 From: sugarbum1 at xxx.com (Grace Howarth) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 13:07:37 GMT Subject: Sinister: A sinister shop, for sinister people Message-ID: <20000226130737.34355.qmail@hotmail.com> Greetings, I have just been considering the state of the rapidly growing sinister village when I realised that, unless I am mistaken, there is not yet a corner shop. I have tried in my own little way to promote the good old local store for many years by shopping in a small grocers shop as opposed to the large chain store stylee supermarkets. The sinister village could mark a turning point in the sorry tale of corner shops. The choice of stock would of course need much careful consideration , but I imagine no-one would protest to ample amounts of sherbet lemons, toasted tea cakes and large pots of birds eye custard. Rather than investing in trolleys, customers could be given wicker baskets with checked table cloths to cover their purchases with tus making the weekly shop an enjoyable experience. As much stock as possible would be stored in large glass jars behind the counter to increase its attractiveness and tempt shoppers into parting with cash. The possibilities for transforming the genre of supermarket music are endless. With all this food for thought I don't know how I'm going to get any work done today, but I will try, with my future as a sinister store manager as a very worthy incentive. au revoir mes amies Grace ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 50158120 at xxx.hk Sat Feb 26 16:03:11 2000 From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 00:03:11 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Me and my M65 Message-ID: <951580991.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk> Hey u girls and boys. Action:Reaction Jen: "I out my b&s tee shirt in the wash and it turned out blue. Oh dear. Me: "ooh... really? it will fade? which tee do u huv? I ordered Belle with Fox (large, coz they say Large is just Medium) weeks ago. Oh, i am worry bout it... so where do u put the badge? will it be strange if i put them on my Parka???" Ian: "what do people think about the field mice?? i heard them on the tape tree thingy, and thought they were quite good, and the last time you kids recommended cds t'was felt. and that could be put down as quite a life-changing experience, on a par perhaps with the first time i picked up 'sinister' from my friend's desk . . . i covered my bus t-shirt in southern and red bull on new years eve. but it came out in the wash. so it's not really the same i guess. oh." Me: "I ve just got the "Me and a Monkey on the Moon" the storeman said it is the best one. It is heartbreaking. I recommend Jack's "Pionner Soundtracks" i ve just got it at second hand shop. cool. also i ve got Bungalow's "pop tics" Compilation. But the greatest fulfilment of listening is............ IYFS!!!!! Robyn: "someone made my mind go off on a tangent with the mention of big hair and b&s. which made me think that along with upside down badges as identifiers, sinister types could make their hair very big and wear tight black jeans at all times. it's quite the identifier. " Me: "God, Big Hair???? I ve a hairdo which is a Mod identifier. and what is upside down badges???? to pin it upside down???? God... i dunno wear tight jeans... Regular Staright forever!!!!" >>>>>>>Me n My M65<<<<<<<<<<<<< Can't find no M 51 and can't afford a N3B. I get a M65 instead. it is smelly. after i wash the Liner. the cotton go messy... and the hood is the main problem..... dunno how to modify the shape... Viva 1994, Toby Chan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 50158120 at xxx.hk Sat Feb 26 16:03:36 2000 From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 00:03:36 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Me and my M65 Message-ID: <951581016.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk> Hey u girls and boys. Action:Reaction Jen: "I out my b&s tee shirt in the wash and it turned out blue. Oh dear. Me: "ooh... really? it will fade? which tee do u huv? I ordered Belle with Fox (large, coz they say Large is just Medium) weeks ago. Oh, i am worry bout it... so where do u put the badge? will it be strange if i put them on my Parka???" Ian: "what do people think about the field mice?? i heard them on the tape tree thingy, and thought they were quite good, and the last time you kids recommended cds t'was felt. and that could be put down as quite a life-changing experience, on a par perhaps with the first time i picked up 'sinister' from my friend's desk . . . i covered my bus t-shirt in southern and red bull on new years eve. but it came out in the wash. so it's not really the same i guess. oh." Me: "I ve just got the "Me and a Monkey on the Moon" the storeman said it is the best one. It is heartbreaking. I recommend Jack's "Pionner Soundtracks" i ve just got it at second hand shop. cool. also i ve got Bungalow's "pop tics" Compilation. But the greatest fulfilment of listening is............ IYFS!!!!! Robyn: "someone made my mind go off on a tangent with the mention of big hair and b&s. which made me think that along with upside down badges as identifiers, sinister types could make their hair very big and wear tight black jeans at all times. it's quite the identifier. " Me: "God, Big Hair???? I ve a hairdo which is a Mod identifier. and what is upside down badges???? to pin it upside down???? God... i dunno wear tight jeans... Regular Staright forever!!!!" >>>>>>>Me n My M65<<<<<<<<<<<<< Can't find no M 51 and can't afford a N3B. I get a M65 instead. it is smelly. after i wash the Liner. the cotton go messy... and the hood is the main problem..... dunno how to modify the shape... Viva 1994, Toby Chan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From caroline945 at xxx.com Sat Feb 26 17:29:40 2000 From: caroline945 at xxx.com (caroline smith) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 17:29:40 GMT Subject: Sinister: continuing randomness..my apologies for crapness Message-ID: <20000226172940.40950.qmail@hotmail.com> hello there wee chicks, how are we all? i'm presently feeling a little bored and have sore feet. a little imp is stealing into my room at night and beating up my feet, they are all bruised for no apparent reason. speaking of imps, elves and all the rest is there yet a brownies in the sinister village. i think it would prove most useful in teaching us how to make fridges, and proper cups of tea which is v.important. today i found out my boss used to be a punk, which i found v.funny. he went and saw the clash when he was 13, how cool is that? anyway sorry i' m rambling again. ooh ohh the other thing is many failed attempts were made in enetering the chatroomy thingy, apologies, i think this may be a lost cause due to the complete crapness of my computer. oh well i should get going, but before i go, my spiky haired friend liam says hello to you all, he is the best as he likes b+s, plone, godspeed you black emperor, mouse on mars, and always has a carton of ribena in his bag...what a guy lots of love, from the girl with the newsprint stained hands i love you all caroline xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keythkeyth at xxx.net Sat Feb 26 18:48:34 2000 From: keythkeyth at xxx.net (keith mclachlan) Date: 26 Feb 00 10:48:34 PST Subject: Sinister: t-shirts and zoning Message-ID: <20000226184834.7239.qmail@www0e.netaddress.usa.net> am i the only one who thinks the jeepster twee-shirts are a bit flimsy? i can see through mine while it is on and that is not very neat. did i get one from a bad lot or are everyone elses of the same low quality? someone asked about the field mice, yes they are wonderful, of course they are much more obvious than belle and sebastian with all of their heart on their sleeve sentiments but bob field mouse/blue star is one of the loveliest persons to ever walk on this earth, most assuredly. as life would have it then my girlfriend kate beat me to a used promo copy of the new trembling blue stars record 'broken by whispers' just last evening. it is wonderful, no anne-mari lead vocals(woo hoo!!!! cause that picture centre record is ridiculous). i can't seem to figure out if all of the songs are still about her though, they could be fictitious? but it is is likely they are not and that bob still rides his moped past her house every day rain or shine. lots of countryish songs too, country is great. oh but the sub-poop logo is awful. i don't want to be anything in the sinister village. i can sense it will be one of those controlled development communities and therefore leagues out of my price range when it comes to affordable rent. then will come, inevitably, the dictates from the enlightened elite similar to those found here in boulder, you know the sort that say you can not put plastic frogs in the front yard lest you decrease someone's overinflated property value. communism has found its last bastion in home owner's associations. american beauty is the worst movie ever. well it is if you don't count happiness. keith m the hefner rockers for jesus ep is splendid. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sat Feb 26 19:51:01 2000 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 19:51:01 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Hello Twee Majority! Message-ID: <001b01bf8092$cfa2d980$081d3c3e@default> Hi. After having a small discussion with one Erica MacArthur on the #sinister IRC thing, I have decided, with no flourishing trumpets, to return to the list. Okay, so a couple of you don't like me. One of you seems to like mailing me abusive e-mails from random addresses. So, if that's you, don't hide. Come out and reveal yourself to my face, then we can talk. It's been rather an interesting time in the land of Twee lately. I've heard the word mentioned so many times in the last week that it's becoming surreal Interesting vocal mistakes too: (1) Friend, referring to Air song, in the middle of crowded store: "I love Sexy Boy!" (2) Same friend, later that week, another store: "I just think Velvet Pants is great!!!" (Propellerheads song, I think) (3) Same friend, after being laughed at : "I wish people would stop listening to me!!! Fuck!" Muse rocked like mad fuckers at King Tut's in Glasgow. My friend Daniel said: "They make Feeder look like that Belle & Sebastian mob." (this is my meagre B&S content) I'm desperately trying to gather enough money to see GYBE! next month at the Garage in Glasgow. Does anyone know if there's many tickets left? Beck and Primal Scream are also fast approaching, so maybe see a few of you there :) I hear there's going to be a festival in Glasgow in August. Oasis headlining. How great cos they are just *the* best band ever! I see that Daniel Ryder (from the RHML) is now here. Glad you took my advice, Dan. Watch your girlfriends around this man, chaps. He's the most fancied guy on the Radiohead list and he's exhausted I've said too much, so this post has got to stop somewhere. --Jason Andreas A one-man civil war..... ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Sat Feb 26 21:19:16 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:19:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: It is the true nature of man to learn from his mistakes - Fred Hoyle In-Reply-To: <42.20fd7c9.25e6faf1@aol.com> Message-ID: Fred Hoyle, who I never thought would appear on Sinister but now has, made a bit of an idiot of himself when I used to do astronomy - he kept haranguing the Royal Observatory in Edinburgh (where I "worked") for totally ignoring his research that proved colds and flu came from space. They were the deadly galactic enemies of the Sinex Nasal Sprayz from planet Vicks or something. Apropos of nothing. Anyway! THREE Sinister announcements. ONE! The latest edition of the B&S band "diary" appears below, sent on by Katrina - thanks you! It's mainly about footie so I don't understand a word of it; football was nearly a banned topic on Sinister, because I'd rather be knitting. TWO! As promised "earlier", a new Sinister photo gallery has appeared. It's Scarlet Erica's requested clothing gallery where you may display the best and worst items in your wardrobe (and nothing inbetween). Haute Couture! Go and have a flick through the racks at: http://www.missprint.org/cgi-bin/photo.cgi?gallery=slipups THREE! The Sinister search is back with its fetlocks flowing, and awaiting your commands, Sir. Just pop something into the box on the front page, or if you want to search for something more simple than a single word or a phrase, go to: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/search.html You'll find some cheeky random suggestions pop up in the box on the front page just like they used to. The idea is that they uncover hidden gems from the archives from our 2 and a half year history(*), but they're a bit out of date and I'd love more suggestions lovingly honed down to bring out just one or two lovely "posts of the past". Something really rude would be smashing. (*) and if you think two and a half years isn't long, in a lucid dream the other day I worked out how many emails Sinister is responsible for sending out to individual mailboxes. Go on, guess. Is it (a) 20,000, (b) 50,000, (c) 12,000,000 or (d) 25 billion billion trillion? Is that your final answer? Search tips while we're at it: if you want to look for mails containing more than one word, separate them with semicolons (;) and DON'T add spaces as it takes spaces very seriously. And if you want to look for complete phrases, just type them in, don't add quotes. Putting that together, if you want to look for a mail containing both the word "pornography" and the phrase "Nicholas Witchell", you'd type in: pornography;Nicholas Witchell Which will find this one as from tonight. It's actually rather fun putting in very odd unsinister things and see if someone somewhere's every mentioned them. I bet the answer's "cor blimey look they did!". Please do use the search before you post if you're asking a question you think there's the slightest chance might've come up before. --- Llywelynapgwilym at aol.com said: > Names. What is in a name? Quite a lot actually. > but I do have a thing against names like "Fifi > Trixibelle" ... > ... or "2la" (-a real middle name) It's true! Someone really did christen their daughter "21a". I rather like it... I heard on the same program (Radio 4, but not the shipping forecast heard through a haze of hallucinogens I promise) that in Brazil a father christened his children "Xerox", "Photocopier" and "Authenticated". Can any Brazilians confirm or deny this? I'm rather hoping someone called "Dishwasher" replies. Stu leaving. I'm wondering when we'll stop having to say "Stu M" and "Stu D" then? That should save a few megabytes. Finally - no! I don't want to be a Major in the Sinister village! I much prefer the idea of working behind the counter at the Ice Creame Shoppe. I'm told I'm very nippy with a scoop. Or be LJ's "intriguingly feminine" mummy. Or someone whose main duties were to do jigsaws, skip and pull tongues. Would that be ok? Honey xxx P.S. it's (c) --- > Belle & Sebastian's Chris Geddes writes about erm... football > > I think I mentioned last time how much I was looking forward to the > football season starting up again. Obviously now I'd have preferred it if > the break had gone on a bit longer. It doesn't inspire confidence when it > takes the worst result in the club's history... ever, to persuade Allan > MacDonald to do what many fans had been casually demanding since October. > Still, things seem to be improving on the park under Dalglish. Hopefully > next time at Parkhead I'll be doing more singing than booing for the first > time in a while, and maybe one day the shares will recover. If I'd spent my > money on shares in some internet company instead of a crisis hit football > club, I might now be looking at moving to Albert Drive. > We were down that way the other day doing a photoshoot at the Sherbrooke > Castle Hotel. It was the day it snowed, and it was very pleasant to spend > the day in the hotel lounge drinking cups of tea. Anyway, I had never > realised there was anywhere posher than Hyndland so it was a real > eye-opener. > A couple of years ago I got really upset at the depravity of the rich when > our American label at the time put us in a posh hotel where the drinks at > the bar cost about a tenner. It just seemed outrageous that folk with wads > of cash have nothing better to with it than pay over the odds for normal > stuff. I guess it was mainly expense accounts or something, so these > companies fleece each other for cash while bored execs get pished. Woody > Allen's jazz band played in the restaurant and some guy offered them > thousands of dollars to do another set. > Anyway this photo thing was quite a laugh, especially for Richard who had > to spend the proverbial six hours in make-up. I think we're meeting the > photographer on Monday to see how they turned out. > > Chris Geddes --- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From simon.aurell at xxx.se Sat Feb 26 22:43:25 2000 From: simon.aurell at xxx.se (Simon Aurell) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 23:43:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: village site Message-ID: <00be01bf80aa$e5d1f0c0$2f3797d4@brouhaha> Hi Sinister This thing about Struan shouting at the end of LLPJ.. I can't hear it, so could somebody please tell me exactly where in the song, in minutes and seconds, the actual shouting is located, before I ruin the bluddy CD by listening to the end over and over? Does anybody know if some kindhearted soul has taken upon him/her to write down chords/tabs to Elliott Smith's music? Cause it can be quite difficult and I could really use some help. Finally, and most important: somebody spoke of the upcoming (hopefully) SinVil-site.. I'm thinking of making it, that is, if anyone else hasn't already started doing so. If someone has, then mail me. Anyway, as you all understand this thing will depend on YOUR content. So if you've got any contributions send them. Somebody was going to make a map, which could make a great welcome page, or maybe like a menu where you can click on the (for example) library and then get to a library page, a short story of the month, or whatever. By the way, if someone is keeping track of who's who a complete list would be great. Love, Simon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From colin.mowat at xxx.net Sun Feb 27 00:02:27 2000 From: colin.mowat at xxx.net (Colin Mowat) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 00:02:27 -0000 Subject: Sinister: "If you're so funny, then why are you on your own tonight?" etc. (Morrissey) Message-ID: <003001bf80b6$1cd6b6e0$dbce2cc3@default> Saturday 26 February 2000 22:06 Dear people After suspecting that I'm the only listee who is in at this time on a saturday night, alone (well two children asleep upstairs), but alone in the sense of romantically alone,abandoned, apart, deserted, desolate, detached, forlorn, forsaken, isolated, lonely, lonesome, only, separate, single, sole, solitary, unaccompanied, uncombined and unconnected......OK, so I've got a thesaurus on my PC, I've also got a pizza in the oven and think I can smell it burning.....hang on, I'm gonna see if I can salvage it. Alright, so I've got a thesaurus, a Sainsbury's pepperoni pizza, three bottles of Spanish lager, 17 left of a pack of Silk Cut and a hope that the girls wont awaken until at least 8am. I now wish I hadn't looked up alone on the thesaurus - it makes for grim internalisation. So I could phone their mother, but she's probably getting screwed by her boyfriend.....yeah, I'll phone her......wait a minute and I'll let you know if I was right...........said she was in bed..going to sleep......! Don't get me wrong we have a very good relationship, it was our wedding anniversary yesterday, she dragged out leaving for five months of Hell and finally went two weeks ago.......the first week was difficult, but not as difficult as living together over the past months, and this week's been much better, and that's in some part due to a listee who's helped me through - thankyou. Any way......Music - and pain and love and loss and romance and tears.......and Christ this pepperoni hot, just off to the fridge to get another lager......that's better, but I can't finish the pizza, if any of you want it mail me and I'll post it on, although I think it will need to be wrapped in some kind of special packaging that has probably been developed by NASA for use on the Space Shuttle.....Sainsbury's pepperoni pizza, eat it at your peril. Ah, yes....better mention music. OK, so I'm not the only person in the world or probably on the list who's long-term (in my case nine years and two children) relationship has suffered from corrosion, in this case the chemical reaction was between her and someone she works with (sound familiar).........so I'm not saying I had nothing to do with this and that I didn't contribute to our demise, I just wont lay my failings before you unless pushed........ music, music, music..........so what got me through the last 5 months - here's a list, and if you ever find yourself similarly appraised try listening to......... 1. David Gray - White Ladder(album) - Please forgive me / Babylon / We're not right 2. ABC - The Lexicon of Love - the whole bloody album 3. The Smiths - The Queen is Dead(album) - I know it's over....and a multitude of others spread over albums 4. Gil Scott-Heron - Glory(album) - Lady day and john coltrane 5. John Martyn - Cooltide(album) - The cure / Same difference.....One World(album) - Couldn't love you more(the most amazing love song ever witten) 6. Japan - Gentlemen Take Polaroids(album) - Swing 7. Scott Walker - Sings Jacques Brel(album) - If you go away 8. The Cure - Wish(album) - Trust / Friday i'm in love / A letter to elise 9. Max Bruch - Violin Concerto No.1 (so romantic) 10. Eddi Reader - Dear John EP - Dear John (i can no longer listen to this song - maybe the saddest song ever written) 11. David Gray - A Century Ends(album) - Shine / Debauchery 12. Nick Drake - anything and everything 13. Sinead O'Connor - So Far... The Best of(album) - Nothing compares 2 U 14. Indigo Girls - Indigo Girls(album) - Love's recovery / History of us 15.Tom Waits - Nighthawks at the Diner.....the whole album 16. Joe Jackson - This Is It(album) - One more time / Breaking us in two 17. Van Morrison - The Best of(album) - Moondance / Brown eyed girl / Have i told you lately 18. Joy Division - Substance(album) - Transmission / Love will tear us apart (now this is on a par with john martyn's couldn't love you more) 19 Belle and Sebastian - do i really need to write the album/EP names - lots of stuff but especially - Lazy line painter jane / Seeing other people / Expectations / She's losing it / I don't love anyone / Photo jenny / Dog on wheels / A century of elvis ..............well there you go..........if you don't know much of this stuff and would like to, let me know and I will furnish you, courtesy of TDK with 90 mins worth. I feel much better now, thank you. Sweet dreams Colin "I've got a girlfriend with bows in her hair and nothing is better than that.......is it" (Talking Heads)...........well maybe one day. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pelican303 at xxx.com Sun Feb 27 02:07:00 2000 From: Pelican303 at xxx.com (Pelican303 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:07:00 EST Subject: Sinister: Sereni-tea now! Message-ID: Sorry honey, but I'm going to have to forget your warning about thinking before I post. Being freed from the iron hands of the nursery maids, I have been overcome with a feeling of such great power that I am sure anything I write will be well worth reading (ha). Anyway, for those who do not already know, I am rob the new kid. I enjoy alienating those around me and I get my kicks by destroying loving communities from the inside...I mean, midnight bowling. I would like to begin the mass alienation by thanking all those in the chat room who have been so warmly welcoming to me the past two weeks, even the ones who obviously don't like me terribly much (you know who you are, and I love you :) ). I won't bore you all with the tale of my torrid affair with the music of Belle and her boy. I hope the preceding sentence is close enough to content for this post. If I may be so presumptious as to invite myself into the little Sinister village, I make one hell of a cup of tea and would love to run the giant tea plantation at the edge of town. Every need, be it for a fine darjeeling, a complexly layered oolong, or some of that sludge in a bag (I also cater to the lazy), I will fill your void (um...tea related please) with warm service at the tea bar located on the border between the commercial and residential districts. I need bouncers to ruff around anyone who comes in asking for coffee. And for the love of god people, would it kill you to tip your teaboys and teagirls. Speaking of which, I am taking applications for such positions. I would also like a team of trained monkeys to climb into the heights and pick the really delicate teas. All right...I will let you all move on to the other messages piling up in your mail box. He hops on his mod scooter and rides off, Rob +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From modpopstar at xxx.com Sun Feb 27 03:03:31 2000 From: modpopstar at xxx.com (Leyla McNickle) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 19:03:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Stop Staring At Me. I'm not Who you think I am Anyway. Message-ID: <20000227030331.23348.qmail@web305.mail.yahoo.com> Hi. Im Bored. Post time. So, This Sinister Village. Is there any room for a akward mod girl with a London Underground obsession? Village's are funny things. Villages always have a village Whore, village IDiot, village...PEOPLE! Thats right, what sort of village would it be without the village people!! (come on kids..YMCA!) Theyre a bit scary really, aren't they? Leather trousers and all.... I dunno what use I would have in the Sinister Village..but I assure you, its Not "arse dancing" instructor..thankyou very much... Thought I would let people know what I have been listening to of late... just because. I wanna! T:REX : Sliders ( a little glam, a little ponce) Small Faces: Immediate Comp.(ready steady...fantastic!) Belle & Sebastian: IF youre Feeling Sinister Suede: im always listening to suede... Smiths: Meat is Murder Stone Roses: Stone Roses ("I Wanna Be Adored" ..a sediment I can only dream into existance...) *sigh* Yeah, I've lost my Belle&Sebastian Badge somewhere in Sarah's car...hopefully I will find it...someday. :) Got another Crush vote, There must've been some sort of mistake... I wish people would write me if they liked what I had to say... or upon whatever other merit they give me a vote for.... its just such a mystery... London, 4 days to go. Watch OUT!! Okay, Well its about time I go off to the Pub and meet up with my lurvely friends... for some Lagger...and so we can "shake our bits to the hits" (no arse dancing, i swear) Here's hoping for something good to happen soon... love and poison, leyla p.s. hopefully Sarah & I can do a post soon...as my solo posts are pure drivel.. If we don't get a post in before our Trip to London...you will be getting one F**king long one when we get back. Also, I hope to get pictures from the trip developed and scanned and do an online travel journal as a new site... Aren't you just all bubbling with childish anticipation? you should. maybe YOU will be in the Photo's.... ===== http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pavilion/4941/ ******************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Sun Feb 27 04:01:32 2000 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksAndAJill) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 23:01:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: To the owner of SHOULDER-1.jpg in the 'BODY PARTS' gallery Message-ID: <200002270401.XAA25471@dept.english.upenn.edu> [NOTE: Sorry to have to bother the entire list, but I gotta flush her out somehow] Hello Ms. (presumably female and unmarried) Mysterious Owner of SHOULDER-01.jpg, A note to request that you contact me, as I have used the aforementioned jpg image for a rather pleasing (if I do say so myself!) flyer advertisement for my band's upcoming show that also happens to commemorate the release of our debut album. I certainly would welcome your thoughts on permission re: distribution before I actually copy up a million of them and plaster Philadelphia. Also, some kind of meager compensation could be arranged for the use of your shoulder! Anyway. For you Londoners, if you can recommend some fine events happening between March 15-22 I'd appreciate it (off-list of course). Especially dancing to soul music all dirty-like. Danke Xavier - > BXK - > Wu Name: CHILDISH GAMBINO +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sun Feb 27 12:47:05 2000 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:47:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Calling all Elliot Smith fans.... Message-ID: <008101bf8120$c15e9100$970a3c3e@default> >Hey Elliott Smith Fans, >On SATURDAY, Feb. 26th,at the Empty Bottle in Chicago there will be a >live webcast of Elliott's performance. He will be doing old hits and >new songs from his upcoming album. >The webcast will take place at 11:55 pm ET on www.Rollingstone.com and > www.tunes.com . I've never heard any of the guy's stuff, but I'm sure I remember a few people on here saying they liked him. Sorry :) --Jason Andreas A one-man civil war..... ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From igh1 at xxx.uk Sun Feb 27 14:29:34 2000 From: igh1 at xxx.uk (Ian Hatcher) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:29:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: yo yo yo wassup?? Message-ID: big up the sinistah massiv. well, jj72 were FANTASTIC, but shy and quiet when i met them to say hello. his voice is just as good in person as it is on record. a second well, thank you all you kids who recommended the field mice. today i became the proud owner of "where'd you learn to kiss . . .". i like it. i like it a lot and give it 8 out of 10. a third well, thanks velocity girl for offering to put me on your tape list, but alas i have just recieved three tape tree tapes and feel that my time shall be spent listening to the delights of those, so i must turn down your most gracious offer. i'm desperately trying to think of some b&s content, but as usual i can't, it must be all this fun in the daylight of sinis-world. so back i hop to the shadows and the creatures that lurk there. ciao for now, ian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Sun Feb 27 15:19:27 2000 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 10:19:27 EST Subject: Sinister: Never ever go clubbing with your friend Message-ID: <92.1f770b9.25ea9a7f@aol.com> Hello sinisterines! Well I went clubbing last night. My friend thought it would cheer me up after the loss of my boyfriend, even though I wanted rid of him. So I'm not a great dancer, and the music was all dance. I thought about requesting B&S but I do actually value my life. Anyway, big cool crowd of mokes from my school was there and started yelling not very nice things about my dancing, and my new purple top and silver trousers which I was so proud of. And then the boys in the crowd came over and started pushing me against the wall and coming on to me for a joke. So I went to sit with my friend. And then she paired up with a really nice boy with floppy hair and left me on my own for three hours, stuck in between some drunk boys and a boy doing THINGS with a girl in a very short dress. And that's why going clubbing is a mokeish idea. Erica said something nice about me and then said: << I should thankyou actually, Jenny, as after you wrote to the list about that Barry boy, I wrote what I think will be my first P!O!P hit:>> And then a very nice song, which is actually a lot like barry except that he's not got a car. And I hope that when she's on Top of The P!O!Ps, that she will let me backstage to kill Britney Spears. Also I think the sinister handshake (badgeshake?) is a GRATE idea, and i'm just off to change my badge now. Then Alisdair said: <> And I was laughing, a lot. Because it's a word i read in an old 1960 Bunty annual, and I thought it just made such a GRATE insult that I decided to revive it. So now everyone has to use it please. Samantha took her thumb out of her mouth long enough to say: << I know a boy named Eddie who calls himself Moke and I believe that I hate him even more than Kid Rock. But maybe he's slagging* himself and he doesn't even know it? I hope so. Tell us Jen.>> He is slagging himself rotten. And if he's a git, then let him keep on doing it, because then you can secretly laugh at him for not only being a moke but publicly admitting it. and... <> We could call it Baldy's Paradise? Our ad slogan could be "Come here or be a baldy moke!" Or is that just cruel? Anyway, I get after school job before i'm sixteen, AND I get to work for Samantha, so I'm well happy, as long as she doesn't make me clean the toilets. Oh. My RE teacher asked me about my badge and I told him to listen to B&S, and he said he would. So if my RE teacher joins sinister, then please don't kill me everyone. Any way. I'm off for now. Lots of twee hugs and love and strawberry jelly. Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Sun Feb 27 16:03:28 2000 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:03:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: another Tim D masterpiece Message-ID: I've solved our little puzzle about the etchings on B&S records the mastering is done by Tim Dennen at a place called Masterpiece hence another tim d masterpiece. Also I was reading THE FACE (why do they always use captals for that, did GHDICKIE give them the name or something?) issue 38 (the current one) and on page 193 there is a piece on record shops in which they talk to a few of the shops customers. One of the customers at rub-a-dub in glasgow gives his name as Chris Geddes and his occupation as musician. So a member of B&S has actually made it into a style conscious mag like THE FACE. If you want to know he had bought Blueboy's dance classic Remember Me cos it had came up in conversation with friends and none of them had it. well that's enough pointless drivel from me I'll be in touch (said in a menacing voice) owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ill9mc at xxx.com Sun Feb 27 17:37:21 2000 From: ill9mc at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?maureen=20cassera?=) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 09:37:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Has Natasha lost a B&S badge??? Message-ID: <20000227173721.3427.qmail@web1605.mail.yahoo.com> Hello... My excuses to everyone, but this is a message for Natasha in Leeds. I don't have her email add so that's the only way for me to tell her that somebody I know has found a B&S badge on the Uni floor and I'm pretty sure it's hers. The kind guy said he'd be happy to give it back. bee beautiful, eat honey Maureen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sun Feb 27 23:04:53 2000 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:04:53 PST Subject: Sinister: my love drinks go-go passion Message-ID: <20000227230453.27694.qmail@hotmail.com> Goodness the Sinister village is positively thriving and I haven't got a job yet,and I'm dying out here! I dont want to stagnate!I don't want to be the village Bum though.That should be reserved to the owners of those rounded bits of heaven on the BodyParts.In this book I'm reading,there is a Lady Of The Lake,who,while picking berries and making spells,she bathes in the lake in the moonlight and the men of the village secretly go and watch.Can I be that? It's not for the whole inviting the men to watch bit,more for the berries.Of course. Forest Witches appeal to me,and surely any important village needs one of those.I reserve lil' Honey as my naked woodland-sprite fluttering about picking berries for me,in a mess of golden locks. Oh,if that position is filled already,well I'll be an airline stewardess then,ok? Thanks.Honey,you could again be my mini assistant,with pink pillbox hat and little tray serving cigarettes,coffee & bubblegum- -"Or me?" Giggled Honey innocently as Monsieur Hornblower nonchalantly pinched her rounded bit of heaven,rustling the newspaper he pretended to read. There was a fantastic article on The Mullet in the paper the other day. Don't forget,the Sinister Camp Hairdresser has got to be Keith. I thought *I* was the ultimate Belle and Sebastian fan.Good lord,how many bottles of Struan's bodily fluids do I have to collect before I can prove this to you all! My Stuart David sweaty towels are sure to become a collectors item...and you thought Tigermilk was worth something...silly diddles! Sometime's I really just love the Sinister world THIS much...many thanks to Karolyene (and Andreea too) for saving my widdle procrastinators bum with my french project.Aw shucksss... So are B&S badges back in fashion now?I can't keep up with the trends now a days,honest to goodness...APPARENTLY,all the hip trendy young things have taken to wearing Mens Support Hose as normal pants/trousers.It makes me blush! I have a bunch of those badges on my spring coat,but I seem to lose one each time.People always squint at them and ask me about them,and I always explain away...but NO MORE.I shall start to wear the badge upside down,like we have discussed at the Sinister Town Meeting,but I think we should also start licking at the badges,while gazing intently at the questioner,not saying a word.I mean..we do need to be sinister. I can't believe you lot prefer tigers-ears to stubble! Silly dilly diddles!Can a tiger-ears pin both of your two arms with only one arm? Do you WANT to impress your Mother by bringing home a Tigers-ears to dinner? Or Do you want to escape out your bedroom window and ride off into the sunset on Stubble's scooter,on a deliciously forbidden adventure? Remember,Stubble would be wearing a stunning leather ensemble, that covers the wild,rebellious,tortured soul hidden underneath...doesn't that intrigue you at least a little bit? Just try and resist stubble Alasdair...hmmm? You CANT can you! Mmm...it's warming up! Spring is coming! The ice has melted! witchy kisses, genevieve p.s In the newspaper today: "'SEXY DRINK' MARKETED AS APHRODISIAC FOR TEENS A hit in the UK,Go-Go Passion expected to hit Canada next.The drink has been selling out in bars in London and riling the Roman Catholic Church in Scotland with its saucy-"wanna go-go?"- marketing pitches." Struan needs to defend this sexy drink,don't you think?I bet he drinks it as well,him being a sugary little minx. I'm eagerly awaiting more cheeky comments aimed at Winning like his "We respect his right not to have sex" from before.Tee hee. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From invisible_boy at xxx.net Sun Feb 27 21:14:55 2000 From: invisible_boy at xxx.net (invisible_boy) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:14:55 -0000 Subject: Sinister: one round week Message-ID: <001d01bf8167$b770c9a0$5a013c3e@oemcomputer> Hello sinister, It's been an odd week. And ironicly, considering the content of my last post I've been feeling downright low all week. Not depressed, you understand (although there's a bit of fuzzy defenition there), just kinda sad. I think the point it started was on monday morning waiting for the bus to work. Overnight one of the plastic panels on the bus shelter had been kicked out and was laying on the pavement. All the people, me included, just kind of stood around it and prentedned it hadn't happened. Is this just something english people do? I really couldn't bring myself to move it out of the way. It was really awkward. Apart form that I've been sad at work becuase I've seen people work their arses of to produce something management has asked for, only to be later told that they'd changed their mind and could you kindly redo it thanks. Sad because I see Big Issue sellers having to put up with crap from drunken charvers. Sad becuase I saw a guy knock an old persons basket out of their hand in the supermarket and not stop to help her pick up her potatoes. Sad becuase all the bus seats are slashed. Sad becuase the guy who served me in the bank was clearly too ill to be at work but was there anyway. Sad because of the junkmail I get telling me that if I send them a fiver they'll send me 10,000 quid and I worry for people that actually do. Sad becuase today at 2 in the afternoon today I saw a kid sniffing glue in the churchyard gates. Sad becuase I almost had to physically assault two 8 (or something) year olds to stop them beating the crap out of an even younger kid. Happy becuase when I went into a guitar shop the other day the guy was friendly, interested in my needs, and I was able to chat with him. Happy becuase when I phoned up for train times the lady on the phone sounded so jolly (I hope she was). Happy becuase my brother sent me a tape. Happy because sometimes I just feel happy. Happy because a lot of the sinister posts made me smile. All the things that made me sad are such small things but all so easily avoided it's fightening. I mean it's no nieve and simple and chiched to say that surely it would be better if people tried not to piss each other off too much, but honestly, how hard can it be ? How difficult is it to say please and thank you ? It matters. It makes a difference. I really hope that you can see where I'm coming from. I'm sure you do. It's not supposed to be a down-note. I'm only saying it's better to smile. Fucking hippy. Kev --- http://www.lost-cat.org.uk/regularchickens/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.borgia at xxx.ca Mon Feb 28 02:07:20 2000 From: alexander.borgia at xxx.ca (Alexander Borgia) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:07:20 -0500 Subject: Sinister: If you're feeling sinister go off and be a villager Message-ID: <38B9D858.7988364A@sympatico.ca> [community gossip] Certain palace officials who have requested anonymity and given indication that there may be some news coming from the palace shortly. There have only been allusions but some insiders think that there may be some amorous goings on at the palace in the future. When pressed for details the officials would not comment further, but it was remarked that Her Majesty Queen Velocity Farewell does not intend to become a spinster. Those who would hope for a scandal should remember that the Queen Mother has been in the news with her "aide" Joseph in the past. We intend to keep our ear to the ground and let you know of further details. [travel section] I believe I have sort of sketched out a rough itinerary for my trip to Europe this spring and would appreciate any input on stuff to do from anyone who may be interested in sharing. Also, if any Sinisters want to get together, whether to have a few drinks, watch me eat foreign foods, make fun my accent, give me wrong directions and get me lost , or if you want to fix me up with your sister as some bizarre revenge plot, then I will be completely gullible and participate in all kinds of nasty things. Although things may vary slightly this is my plan.... May 19-22 London & Portsmouth May 23-26 Normandy May 27-29 Paris May 29-June 3 get to Amsterdam. Possibly Antwerp. [classified advertisements] Tired of looking for work? Welfare cheques just not making the grade? Earn top wages! No marketing, no sales, no telephone canvassing..... Rabbit Brand (tm) is currently hiring dedicated professionals to fill positions as rabbit care specialists. Full training will be provided. As well we offer a full range of company benefits which include 100% medical and dental coverage. Company provided recreations centre which has an olympic sized swimming pool, saunas whirlpools, spas, gyms, theme rooms on a sprawling 1200 acre wooded estate. New employees start at 3 weeks vacation and there are performance bonuses. The Challenge - As a rabbit care specialist you will work in a holistic team environment with proven dynamic leadership where you will be encouraged to think outside the box. You will be responsible for the care an cleaning of a team of mission specialist rabbits. This will include feeding them an bathing them twice daily. You may have as much fun with your rabbits as you like and petting is strongly encouraged. We even provide the rubber boots. Interested applicants are requested to present themselves in person at Rabbit Brand (tm) headquarters. Alexander (ps....Genevieve said bum quite a bit in her post. Let's everybody watch the body parts page) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From melissa.thornton at xxx.ca Mon Feb 28 04:23:40 2000 From: melissa.thornton at xxx.ca (MelissaThornton) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 23:23:40 -0500 Subject: Sinister: ok ok. References: Message-ID: <38B9FA4F.54C7B4A0@utoronto.ca> hello all. i'd just like to say that i would like to own and operate the GNOME ADOPTION AGENCY AND ORPHANAGE in the new village. i have always thought that if the 7 month old baby next door was only a gnome, she'd be so much more fun to baby-sit. and i'd also like to suggest that we recruit (kidnap?) martha stewart to do something-or-other as she is my hero and the embodiment of the word sinister....and she'd probably also be able to hook us up with some fine sponsorship from the GAP. goodnight. yours etc. emily. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redelvis at xxx.net Mon Feb 28 09:41:06 2000 From: redelvis at xxx.net (JR?) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 01:41:06 -0800 Subject: Sinister: random: talkin' shit about a pretty sunset References: <38B9FA4F.54C7B4A0@utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <38BA42B2.78AF73A3@pacbell.net> 1. hi jason doll! it's two t's in elliott of elliott smith btw. 2. i'm a little lost and i dont know what the Sinister Village is :) 3. sorry for the shortness i haven't a lot to say cap'ns! you're low i'm not sure who i am, Daniel Ryder http://foolarchy.com/redelvis http://www.gurlpages.com/music/jnthn icq-1010543 aim-coxonryder i'm not going to take any risks this time... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Mon Feb 28 11:12:33 2000 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:12:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: why life is so hard? Message-ID: How is everybody in Sinistery-aux-vallees? I have just realized that Violent Femmes and Hefner are playing London while I am at home.I just go back one weekend out ot 20 and they have to play then, boo.And I regarded I had some right to write a moaning message to get rid of my sorrows and share with everyone who won't be interested at all.Or maybe they would have been as I'd rather go down there than up Manchester expecting to see all the S-crowd Lundinium-based, specially ultra-Hefner-fan Archel and perhaps meet Lucie le Citrique,my current favourite poster. But it will be Manchester or it won't be if I can collect one hundred and fifty pounds in time and head to ATP.It is already sold out, isn't it? Perhaps these really clever lads and lasses at lastminute-dot-com will make me some offer on 6th April. When you become an astronomer, you stay an astronomer for the rest of your life. What else could explain our Mummy Honey's fascination with very , very large figures which give the majority of human beings the shivers? I gave up Astrophysics and the like because of that vertigo and went instead to small things but not too small (i.e. electrons,nucleus...etc), as particle physics will give me the same shivers but reversely.Up the spine? Have a good day.I shall make most of mine.L_O_V_E Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Mon Feb 28 11:13:51 2000 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:13:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: TV oN iN BeD... Message-ID: <20000228111351.10459.qmail@web3003.mail.yahoo.com> Hello there my sweetisterines... I see our village keeps growning.... who's gonna win the lottery for us so we can really start building it up..? I mean, after all this enthousiasm it's a pity to remain just a virtual village, isn't it? more and more and more suggestions coming up.... and the more the suggestions get the more I realise that there are so many positions to be covered... here's our U R B A N P L A N R e P o R T: Oh... hold on a sec... First of all I'd like to apologise to Jeanette as it was her idea that Peter Miller should run the porno shop and Marc C. the disco... sorry Jeanette... sorry Paula from taking this warm feeling of aknowledgement for something you haven't done from you... S O R R on our latest now... well well well... Y I can see that Rabbit Brand (tm) hasn't lost his time... as Lixi's idea of pimping Woodland Mammals seems to be so i ntr i guing yer... Kerry... will definetelly run the MicRoBioLoGy Lab of the Sinister Village... that means we're in need for doctors, nurses, pharmacists... and yes o yes, anaesthesiologists... have you ever had been anaesthesised? it's Grate... I have to say that I Luv... Valerie Solanas', LJ's, and Georgine's ScHiZopHreNia it can be really FruitFuLL, believe me... so... Valerie wants, this time, to run the AniMaL SheLtEr and the village RiDinG StaBLe... she's also spoken about alternative sources of energy for our village... I have nothing against that... quite the opposite... do you? I've onced seen this documentary with this city covered with some sort of plastic to gather solar energy... it was amazing... a bit claustrophobic though... hmmmmmmmm... Caroline (Smith) said that she'd like to run a SeCoNd HanD BooKsToRe I don't know what Laura would have to say on that... but I don't think she'd have any problem... I mean, competition is a "healthy" ingredient of a free economy isn't it?...and since, we're gonna have a close society, things could work like that: we'll buy books from Laura's, read them and then sell them to Caroline who would sell them to someone else... and so on... After checking Jen's CV, counting the hours she'd spent in the Library, etc... I think she'd be the perfect sinister LiBrAriAn... Mike Windisch... Mike wants to buy a ScOoTeR... I thought of him in a nice mod costume selling vespas and scooters in our local... "MoDs' WaYs of RidiNg" mOtOr ShoP if he has no objections about that... Michael Marucco just wants to be a DisHwaSHeR and draw things... All you have to do Michael is charge your services as a dishwasher really high and go from the one restaurant to the other washing the dishes as I don't think that anyone would be in a washing the dishes mood... Alix C. the mammal pimp... wow! that sounds cool!!! also suggested that PamB should be hairdresser and MartinR could be the weird person who is convinced he rules the fish people. FisH PeoPle RuLe... and we need a netball team... aPPliCatIoNs, pleAse... Robert Foster made my mouth foamy with all this talk of him being the sinister MiLkMaN Robin will definetelly be the sinister WiNdOWCleAnEr... with his sinister intentions though, I think the villagers' windows would be always DiRtY... mmmmmmmm... Now Christa will have the coolest ReCoRd StOrE talking of which here's something that has just hit me: are we going to have any sinister M*O*N*E*Y? what should be our mean of exchange/trading? how are we going to buy our records and food and pay Lixi for the use of her mammals... blimey... money... I think we should follow Bakounin's theory in that... we should just excange things... I mean Laura would need some fresh milk from Robert and she can give him a book in exchange... or Christa will definetelly need her windowns cleaned so Robin can take some records, and so on... and ON... and On... MaSSaGe ParLoUR many people applied for this position... mmmmm I wonder why... why indeed.... Paul Field said he'd like to give massages and he's got magic FiNgErS... his only problem was what he was going to do if he had to give massages to people he wouldn't like... so... I thought that we can use more that one masseurs... and there you go... I proudly present you with the people whose fingers are gonna make your aching bodies MELT... Chris Brown who's really busy with his non-sinister bizness and asked me to give you all his greetings... said he's missed you all.... mmmmm and... AdAm Apparatus is your third masseur... all 3 guys have been tested in really hard conditions and proved that they really do have magic fingers and they can be excellent masseurs... CeRtiFiEd...* G * Adam Chapman wants to run the sinister BuS SeRviCe yer... with all this talk about buses etc... well... he has to try his very best... Adam...?? My dearest mod Rob the Pelican... will run the TeA PlaNtAtiOnS I've never seen a mod in charge of a tea plantation, but in a PoP! AnArcHy "environment" all is P O S S I B L E and most likely to happen... Simon A. offered to create the sinister village site YEY!!! No Objections to that... Grace... I'm not sure but I think that there are some corner-shops in sinisterville... but I really don't think that this is a problem... there are going to be lots of corners anyway... RiGhT? Samantha, being sensitive and sweet, thought that there should be a WiG ShOp for those sinister villagers who are lacking in hair... I wonder why nobody's thought of that before... motto should be: don't take your hair for granted!!! Genevieve wants to become a sinister legend and be the LaDy of the LaKe who would saduce poor, innocent sinistermen under the moonlight... no objections to that... every city needs its myths and legends, right? Genevieve seems to have the qualities to become one... yer... Emily or Melissa Thornton (any relation to NME's editor?) wants to run the GNOME ADOPTION AGENCY AND ORPHANAGE GnOmEs, oRpHaNs... interesting concepts... Paul Arathoon wants to be a FooTbAll PlaYer yer, sure Paul... if you're half as good as Zola I'd be your most devoted fan... Alasdair's being wondering why he's a teacher... well, I don't really know... It's just something my instict told me...delete buttons? yey... Martin Robinson had scared the hell out of us talking about germs and antibiotics... then, he suggested that he should be the sinister HeAltH iNsPeCtoR mmmm... I think that's fair enough... Cris-t-opher wants to run a RecOrD ShoP as well... so watch out Christa... you have to be more competitive... St.Lucy wants to run the sinister BeD & BreAkFasT and I have to say that her image in one of these robs, tidying up messed up beds and talking to herself, made me smile and also gave me unholy thoughts such as what would I do to shock her when she comes to tide up my bed... the morning after... as I'm really considering marriage with a certain person, I think we should forget our honeymoon in Vegas and go to Lucy's Bed & Breakfast instead... what do you think love? Di (ipecap spice) + Rob Brennan + Colin Mowat all these caring, loving souls have different views on how a mental hospital should function... I liked the idea of tea and cakes for treating mental diseases and kebabs for more serious, chronic situations.... yer, I think you can all cooperate in out Mental Hospital using your alternative methods of treament and experiment on us poor sinisteriennes... I mean, that's what PsYcHiAtRY all about anyway... Jason Cutler wants to be the sinister HaNdYmAn and Steve C. wants to have a BasKetBalL TeAm ... c'mon tall sinisterinnes... do JoIn... Sweet Fiona... will be in charge of the loCaL CouNcelliNG SeRviCe and dont' you dare telling me is something we don't need... we most certainly do... a lot of fighting and quareling goes on in the sinister land lately... harassments, hypocritical attacks, all these need to be sorten out... and the guilty ones... watch out... your punishment will be really harsh... Matthew Smith's offered to be the village's CaBbIe cabbies can be really cool... you should watch it with your mirrors though Matty... you're very indiscrete sometimes... yer... Dave (David Strange Strange) had demonstrated an amazing ability in reporting... I think, yes, he'll be our very own RePoRteR and he can cooperate with Mark from Nottingham who'll be in charge of the local RaDiO StatiON and who promised that he'd play music based only to your requests... he has no other choice anyway... Alexander Borgia had spread the rumour... of me not intending to become a spinster... and he instantly made me think of a Stephen Merritt's song AgiNG SpiNstErS I do certainly not have an intention of becoming a spinster... who's gonna rock my chair and bring me pink lemonade when I'd be old and look like a frog? As I've said before... I'm considering marriage with a certain someone and we're gonna have our honeymoon in St.Lucy's B&B... how can I not provide Lucy with hot gossip to spread around...? that'd be at least criminal...!!! God!! that was soooooo lonnnnnnnnngggggggg... I'm so sorry... not entirelly my fault though... I have to go now... but not before I tell you that I've finished the SiNiSteR TrAcK TaPe from my DJing session and all I need are the addresses of people who'd requested a song and still haven't sent me their snail-mail address... for those who would like a copy as well... apply now... it's your last chance... another thing is that I was trying very hard to figure out what I should do in the sinister village... I've come up with the idea of a SiNiStEr GaLLeRy with all the portraits of sinister people... I'd be in charge of the Gallery and I'd also paint the portraits! Alexander Borgia can help me in his spare time... I'm telling you he's darn good in stretching canvass...!!! and in case you're wondering, my kick boxing lessons are going pretty well... Master George is a very Strict coach I have to warn you... He makes me do all these weird things.... worst of all he keeps screaming instructions to me while brushing his teeth with this buzzing toothbrush which seems to have this obsession with G.Parsons songs... it's awful as I can't really understand what he's saying and do all wrong things... then he has this "vice" of making me kick and punch the boxing shack while he plays all his CARPENTER RECORDS... It's a torment... I can tell you that... but... as ancient greeks said "no pain no drain"... HaH... that's it... please do help Simon with his site... love + bon bons V.F. XXX O ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Mon Feb 28 11:13:48 2000 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:13:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: TV oN iN BeD... Message-ID: <20000228111348.12412.qmail@web3001.mail.yahoo.com> Hello there my sweetisterines... I see our village keeps growning.... who's gonna win the lottery for us so we can really start building it up..? I mean, after all this enthousiasm it's a pity to remain just a virtual village, isn't it? more and more and more suggestions coming up.... and the more the suggestions get the more I realise that there are so many positions to be covered... here's our U R B A N P L A N R e P o R T: Oh... hold on a sec... First of all I'd like to apologise to Jeanette as it was her idea that Peter Miller should run the porno shop and Marc C. the disco... sorry Jeanette... sorry Paula from taking this warm feeling of aknowledgement for something you haven't done from you... S O R R on our latest now... well well well... Y I can see that Rabbit Brand (tm) hasn't lost his time... as Lixi's idea of pimping Woodland Mammals seems to be so i ntr i guing yer... Kerry... will definetelly run the MicRoBioLoGy Lab of the Sinister Village... that means we're in need for doctors, nurses, pharmacists... and yes o yes, anaesthesiologists... have you ever had been anaesthesised? it's Grate... I have to say that I Luv... Valerie Solanas', LJ's, and Georgine's ScHiZopHreNia it can be really FruitFuLL, believe me... so... Valerie wants, this time, to run the AniMaL SheLtEr and the village RiDinG StaBLe... she's also spoken about alternative sources of energy for our village... I have nothing against that... quite the opposite... do you? I've onced seen this documentary with this city covered with some sort of plastic to gather solar energy... it was amazing... a bit claustrophobic though... hmmmmmmmm... Caroline (Smith) said that she'd like to run a SeCoNd HanD BooKsToRe I don't know what Laura would have to say on that... but I don't think she'd have any problem... I mean, competition is a "healthy" ingredient of a free economy isn't it?...and since, we're gonna have a close society, things could work like that: we'll buy books from Laura's, read them and then sell them to Caroline who would sell them to someone else... and so on... After checking Jen's CV, counting the hours she'd spent in the Library, etc... I think she'd be the perfect sinister LiBrAriAn... Mike Windisch... Mike wants to buy a ScOoTeR... I thought of him in a nice mod costume selling vespas and scooters in our local... "MoDs' WaYs of RidiNg" mOtOr ShoP if he has no objections about that... Michael Marucco just wants to be a DisHwaSHeR and draw things... All you have to do Michael is charge your services as a dishwasher really high and go from the one restaurant to the other washing the dishes as I don't think that anyone would be in a washing the dishes mood... Alix C. the mammal pimp... wow! that sounds cool!!! also suggested that PamB should be hairdresser and MartinR could be the weird person who is convinced he rules the fish people. FisH PeoPle RuLe... and we need a netball team... aPPliCatIoNs, pleAse... Robert Foster made my mouth foamy with all this talk of him being the sinister MiLkMaN Robin will definetelly be the sinister WiNdOWCleAnEr... with his sinister intentions though, I think the villagers' windows would be always DiRtY... mmmmmmmm... Now Christa will have the coolest ReCoRd StOrE talking of which here's something that has just hit me: are we going to have any sinister M*O*N*E*Y? what should be our mean of exchange/trading? how are we going to buy our records and food and pay Lixi for the use of her mammals... blimey... money... I think we should follow Bakounin's theory in that... we should just excange things... I mean Laura would need some fresh milk from Robert and she can give him a book in exchange... or Christa will definetelly need her windowns cleaned so Robin can take some records, and so on... and ON... and On... MaSSaGe ParLoUR many people applied for this position... mmmmm I wonder why... why indeed.... Paul Field said he'd like to give massages and he's got magic FiNgErS... his only problem was what he was going to do if he had to give massages to people he wouldn't like... so... I thought that we can use more that one masseurs... and there you go... I proudly present you with the people whose fingers are gonna make your aching bodies MELT... Chris Brown who's really busy with his non-sinister bizness and asked me to give you all his greetings... said he's missed you all.... mmmmm and... AdAm Apparatus is your third masseur... all 3 guys have been tested in really hard conditions and proved that they really do have magic fingers and they can be excellent masseurs... CeRtiFiEd...* G * Adam Chapman wants to run the sinister BuS SeRviCe yer... with all this talk about buses etc... well... he has to try his very best... Adam...?? My dearest mod Rob the Pelican... will run the TeA PlaNtAtiOnS I've never seen a mod in charge of a tea plantation, but in a PoP! AnArcHy "environment" all is P O S S I B L E and most likely to happen... Simon A. offered to create the sinister village site YEY!!! No Objections to that... Grace... I'm not sure but I think that there are some corner-shops in sinisterville... but I really don't think that this is a problem... there are going to be lots of corners anyway... RiGhT? Samantha, being sensitive and sweet, thought that there should be a WiG ShOp for those sinister villagers who are lacking in hair... I wonder why nobody's thought of that before... motto should be: don't take your hair for granted!!! Genevieve wants to become a sinister legend and be the LaDy of the LaKe who would saduce poor, innocent sinistermen under the moonlight... no objections to that... every city needs its myths and legends, right? Genevieve seems to have the qualities to become one... yer... Emily or Melissa Thornton (any relation to NME's editor?) wants to run the GNOME ADOPTION AGENCY AND ORPHANAGE GnOmEs, oRpHaNs... interesting concepts... Paul Arathoon wants to be a FooTbAll PlaYer yer, sure Paul... if you're half as good as Zola I'd be your most devoted fan... Alasdair's being wondering why he's a teacher... well, I don't really know... It's just something my instict told me...delete buttons? yey... Martin Robinson had scared the hell out of us talking about germs and antibiotics... then, he suggested that he should be the sinister HeAltH iNsPeCtoR mmmm... I think that's fair enough... Cris-t-opher wants to run a RecOrD ShoP as well... so watch out Christa... you have to be more competitive... St.Lucy wants to run the sinister BeD & BreAkFasT and I have to say that her image in one of these robs, tidying up messed up beds and talking to herself, made me smile and also gave me unholy thoughts such as what would I do to shock her when she comes to tide up my bed... the morning after... as I'm really considering marriage with a certain person, I think we should forget our honeymoon in Vegas and go to Lucy's Bed & Breakfast instead... what do you think love? Di (ipecap spice) + Rob Brennan + Colin Mowat all these caring, loving souls have different views on how a mental hospital should function... I liked the idea of tea and cakes for treating mental diseases and kebabs for more serious, chronic situations.... yer, I think you can all cooperate in out Mental Hospital using your alternative methods of treament and experiment on us poor sinisteriennes... I mean, that's what PsYcHiAtRY all about anyway... Jason Cutler wants to be the sinister HaNdYmAn and Steve C. wants to have a BasKetBalL TeAm ... c'mon tall sinisterinnes... do JoIn... Sweet Fiona... will be in charge of the loCaL CouNcelliNG SeRviCe and dont' you dare telling me is something we don't need... we most certainly do... a lot of fighting and quareling goes on in the sinister land lately... harassments, hypocritical attacks, all these need to be sorten out... and the guilty ones... watch out... your punishment will be really harsh... Matthew Smith's offered to be the village's CaBbIe cabbies can be really cool... you should watch it with your mirrors though Matty... you're very indiscrete sometimes... yer... Dave (David Strange Strange) had demonstrated an amazing ability in reporting... I think, yes, he'll be our very own RePoRteR and he can cooperate with Mark from Nottingham who'll be in charge of the local RaDiO StatiON and who promised that he'd play music based only to your requests... he has no other choice anyway... Alexander Borgia had spread the rumour... of me not intending to become a spinster... and he instantly made me think of a Stephen Merritt's song AgiNG SpiNstErS I do certainly not have an intention of becoming a spinster... who's gonna rock my chair and bring me pink lemonade when I'd be old and look like a frog? As I've said before... I'm considering marriage with a certain someone and we're gonna have our honeymoon in St.Lucy's B&B... how can I not provide Lucy with hot gossip to spread around...? that'd be at least criminal...!!! God!! that was soooooo lonnnnnnnnngggggggg... I'm so sorry... not entirelly my fault though... I have to go now... but not before I tell you that I've finished the SiNiSteR TrAcK TaPe from my DJing session and all I need are the addresses of people who'd requested a song and still haven't sent me their snail-mail address... for those who would like a copy as well... apply now... it's your last chance... another thing is that I was trying very hard to figure out what I should do in the sinister village... I've come up with the idea of a SiNiStEr GaLLeRy with all the portraits of sinister people... I'd be in charge of the Gallery and I'd also paint the portraits! Alexander Borgia can help me in his spare time... I'm telling you he's darn good in stretching canvass...!!! and in case you're wondering, my kick boxing lessons are going pretty well... Master George is a very Strict coach I have to warn you... He makes me do all these weird things.... worst of all he keeps screaming instructions to me while brushing his teeth with this buzzing toothbrush which seems to have this obsession with G.Parsons songs... it's awful as I can't really understand what he's saying and do all wrong things... then he has this "vice" of making me kick and punch the boxing shack while he plays all his CARPENTER RECORDS... It's a torment... I can tell you that... but... as ancient greeks said "no pain no drain"... HaH... that's it... please do help Simon with his site... love + bon bons V.F. XXX O ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Mon Feb 28 11:13:45 2000 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:13:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: TV oN iN BeD... Message-ID: <20000228111345.6638.qmail@web3002.mail.yahoo.com> Hello there my sweetisterines... I see our village keeps growning.... who's gonna win the lottery for us so we can really start building it up..? I mean, after all this enthousiasm it's a pity to remain just a virtual village, isn't it? more and more and more suggestions coming up.... and the more the suggestions get the more I realise that there are so many positions to be covered... here's our U R B A N P L A N R e P o R T: Oh... hold on a sec... First of all I'd like to apologise to Jeanette as it was her idea that Peter Miller should run the porno shop and Marc C. the disco... sorry Jeanette... sorry Paula from taking this warm feeling of aknowledgement for something you haven't done from you... S O R R on our latest now... well well well... Y I can see that Rabbit Brand (tm) hasn't lost his time... as Lixi's idea of pimping Woodland Mammals seems to be so i ntr i guing yer... Kerry... will definetelly run the MicRoBioLoGy Lab of the Sinister Village... that means we're in need for doctors, nurses, pharmacists... and yes o yes, anaesthesiologists... have you ever had been anaesthesised? it's Grate... I have to say that I Luv... Valerie Solanas', LJ's, and Georgine's ScHiZopHreNia it can be really FruitFuLL, believe me... so... Valerie wants, this time, to run the AniMaL SheLtEr and the village RiDinG StaBLe... she's also spoken about alternative sources of energy for our village... I have nothing against that... quite the opposite... do you? I've onced seen this documentary with this city covered with some sort of plastic to gather solar energy... it was amazing... a bit claustrophobic though... hmmmmmmmm... Caroline (Smith) said that she'd like to run a SeCoNd HanD BooKsToRe I don't know what Laura would have to say on that... but I don't think she'd have any problem... I mean, competition is a "healthy" ingredient of a free economy isn't it?...and since, we're gonna have a close society, things could work like that: we'll buy books from Laura's, read them and then sell them to Caroline who would sell them to someone else... and so on... After checking Jen's CV, counting the hours she'd spent in the Library, etc... I think she'd be the perfect sinister LiBrAriAn... Mike Windisch... Mike wants to buy a ScOoTeR... I thought of him in a nice mod costume selling vespas and scooters in our local... "MoDs' WaYs of RidiNg" mOtOr ShoP if he has no objections about that... Michael Marucco just wants to be a DisHwaSHeR and draw things... All you have to do Michael is charge your services as a dishwasher really high and go from the one restaurant to the other washing the dishes as I don't think that anyone would be in a washing the dishes mood... Alix C. the mammal pimp... wow! that sounds cool!!! also suggested that PamB should be hairdresser and MartinR could be the weird person who is convinced he rules the fish people. FisH PeoPle RuLe... and we need a netball team... aPPliCatIoNs, pleAse... Robert Foster made my mouth foamy with all this talk of him being the sinister MiLkMaN Robin will definetelly be the sinister WiNdOWCleAnEr... with his sinister intentions though, I think the villagers' windows would be always DiRtY... mmmmmmmm... Now Christa will have the coolest ReCoRd StOrE talking of which here's something that has just hit me: are we going to have any sinister M*O*N*E*Y? what should be our mean of exchange/trading? how are we going to buy our records and food and pay Lixi for the use of her mammals... blimey... money... I think we should follow Bakounin's theory in that... we should just excange things... I mean Laura would need some fresh milk from Robert and she can give him a book in exchange... or Christa will definetelly need her windowns cleaned so Robin can take some records, and so on... and ON... and On... MaSSaGe ParLoUR many people applied for this position... mmmmm I wonder why... why indeed.... Paul Field said he'd like to give massages and he's got magic FiNgErS... his only problem was what he was going to do if he had to give massages to people he wouldn't like... so... I thought that we can use more that one masseurs... and there you go... I proudly present you with the people whose fingers are gonna make your aching bodies MELT... Chris Brown who's really busy with his non-sinister bizness and asked me to give you all his greetings... said he's missed you all.... mmmmm and... AdAm Apparatus is your third masseur... all 3 guys have been tested in really hard conditions and proved that they really do have magic fingers and they can be excellent masseurs... CeRtiFiEd...* G * Adam Chapman wants to run the sinister BuS SeRviCe yer... with all this talk about buses etc... well... he has to try his very best... Adam...?? My dearest mod Rob the Pelican... will run the TeA PlaNtAtiOnS I've never seen a mod in charge of a tea plantation, but in a PoP! AnArcHy "environment" all is P O S S I B L E and most likely to happen... Simon A. offered to create the sinister village site YEY!!! No Objections to that... Grace... I'm not sure but I think that there are some corner-shops in sinisterville... but I really don't think that this is a problem... there are going to be lots of corners anyway... RiGhT? Samantha, being sensitive and sweet, thought that there should be a WiG ShOp for those sinister villagers who are lacking in hair... I wonder why nobody's thought of that before... motto should be: don't take your hair for granted!!! Genevieve wants to become a sinister legend and be the LaDy of the LaKe who would saduce poor, innocent sinistermen under the moonlight... no objections to that... every city needs its myths and legends, right? Genevieve seems to have the qualities to become one... yer... Emily or Melissa Thornton (any relation to NME's editor?) wants to run the GNOME ADOPTION AGENCY AND ORPHANAGE GnOmEs, oRpHaNs... interesting concepts... Paul Arathoon wants to be a FooTbAll PlaYer yer, sure Paul... if you're half as good as Zola I'd be your most devoted fan... Alasdair's being wondering why he's a teacher... well, I don't really know... It's just something my instict told me...delete buttons? yey... Martin Robinson had scared the hell out of us talking about germs and antibiotics... then, he suggested that he should be the sinister HeAltH iNsPeCtoR mmmm... I think that's fair enough... Cris-t-opher wants to run a RecOrD ShoP as well... so watch out Christa... you have to be more competitive... St.Lucy wants to run the sinister BeD & BreAkFasT and I have to say that her image in one of these robs, tidying up messed up beds and talking to herself, made me smile and also gave me unholy thoughts such as what would I do to shock her when she comes to tide up my bed... the morning after... as I'm really considering marriage with a certain person, I think we should forget our honeymoon in Vegas and go to Lucy's Bed & Breakfast instead... what do you think love? Di (ipecap spice) + Rob Brennan + Colin Mowat all these caring, loving souls have different views on how a mental hospital should function... I liked the idea of tea and cakes for treating mental diseases and kebabs for more serious, chronic situations.... yer, I think you can all cooperate in out Mental Hospital using your alternative methods of treament and experiment on us poor sinisteriennes... I mean, that's what PsYcHiAtRY all about anyway... Jason Cutler wants to be the sinister HaNdYmAn and Steve C. wants to have a BasKetBalL TeAm ... c'mon tall sinisterinnes... do JoIn... Sweet Fiona... will be in charge of the loCaL CouNcelliNG SeRviCe and dont' you dare telling me is something we don't need... we most certainly do... a lot of fighting and quareling goes on in the sinister land lately... harassments, hypocritical attacks, all these need to be sorten out... and the guilty ones... watch out... your punishment will be really harsh... Matthew Smith's offered to be the village's CaBbIe cabbies can be really cool... you should watch it with your mirrors though Matty... you're very indiscrete sometimes... yer... Dave (David Strange Strange) had demonstrated an amazing ability in reporting... I think, yes, he'll be our very own RePoRteR and he can cooperate with Mark from Nottingham who'll be in charge of the local RaDiO StatiON and who promised that he'd play music based only to your requests... he has no other choice anyway... Alexander Borgia had spread the rumour... of me not intending to become a spinster... and he instantly made me think of a Stephen Merritt's song AgiNG SpiNstErS I do certainly not have an intention of becoming a spinster... who's gonna rock my chair and bring me pink lemonade when I'd be old and look like a frog? As I've said before... I'm considering marriage with a certain someone and we're gonna have our honeymoon in St.Lucy's B&B... how can I not provide Lucy with hot gossip to spread around...? that'd be at least criminal...!!! God!! that was soooooo lonnnnnnnnngggggggg... I'm so sorry... not entirelly my fault though... I have to go now... but not before I tell you that I've finished the SiNiSteR TrAcK TaPe from my DJing session and all I need are the addresses of people who'd requested a song and still haven't sent me their snail-mail address... for those who would like a copy as well... apply now... it's your last chance... another thing is that I was trying very hard to figure out what I should do in the sinister village... I've come up with the idea of a SiNiStEr GaLLeRy with all the portraits of sinister people... I'd be in charge of the Gallery and I'd also paint the portraits! Alexander Borgia can help me in his spare time... I'm telling you he's darn good in stretching canvass...!!! and in case you're wondering, my kick boxing lessons are going pretty well... Master George is a very Strict coach I have to warn you... He makes me do all these weird things.... worst of all he keeps screaming instructions to me while brushing his teeth with this buzzing toothbrush which seems to have this obsession with G.Parsons songs... it's awful as I can't really understand what he's saying and do all wrong things... then he has this "vice" of making me kick and punch the boxing shack while he plays all his CARPENTER RECORDS... It's a torment... I can tell you that... but... as ancient greeks said "no pain no drain"... HaH... that's it... please do help Simon with his site... love + bon bons V.F. XXX O ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rarepleasures at xxx.net Mon Feb 28 12:16:55 2000 From: rarepleasures at xxx.net (Tony Charles Green) Date: 28 Feb 00 12:16:55 GMT Subject: Sinister: Dreams of Nick Drake... Message-ID: <20000228121655.6811.qmail@nwcst279.netaddress.usa.net> Chris_t_opher wrote , can you ever imagine bumping into Nick down your local pub, buying him a pint of Tetley Extra Smooth and having a chat about Cambridge United's recent poor performances? but this is exactly what he was like - happy, laughing enjoying a pint and a smoke in the local, the myth of the melancholy loner is only half the truth. How he became lost is a mystery even to his closest friends. Read Patrick Humphries' biography for more insight... Tony Green Tel: 0207 565 8744 Fax: 0207 565 0020 Mobile: 07941 253 272 RARE PLEASURES: http://rarepleasures.editthispage.com/ off-kilter indie, lo-fi, alt-country, folk, rock ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Mon Feb 28 12:46:53 2000 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:46:53 GMT Subject: Sinister: A weekend of 2 halves Message-ID: <20000228124653.63906.qmail@hotmail.com> hI Kids Although I don't like to slag off other people's music on a regular basis I just have to say that the 6 hours I spent at God's Kithchen, a club in Birmingham, were soul destroying on account of the music. Bang bang bang bang it went for 6 hours, The only tune i recognised was an old prodigy tune that stood out because it was more or less the only one which had lyrics the entire time i was there. All of my friends loved it though I suspect that this was heavily related to the fact they were all on Ecstacy and were off their faces. It seems to me that if you need to consume class A drugs to enjoy the music, there i ssomething wrong. saturday night was much better: tompaulin at the Roadhouse. Considering it was their 5th ever gig it was really really good. I also interviewed the band beforehand and they were reallly nice. And I didn't need to take lots of drugs or even alcohol to enjoy it. Bonus! Paul p.s. I got a list crush vote. i was almost stunned into silence until I realised I wasn't speaking so was therefore already in a state of silence ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Mon Feb 28 13:47:34 2000 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:47:34 -0000 Subject: Sinister: A very merry un-birthday to me... Message-ID: <007901bf81f2$5ec37600$981f3c3e@default> Hi y'all. I would like to apply for the post of Village Councillor. If you have a problem, come knocking on my door - it's the one that's always open Strict patient confidentiality will, of course, be observed. My fees are resonable (I'm cheap, in other words) and I won't laugh . Hope to see my first patient soon...... Daniel Ryder said: >hi jason doll Well, I dunno if I'm a doll, but if there's any gal out there who wants an action man Kev has been feeling unhappy: Well, Kev, I suppose sometimes we just look too closely at this big bad world of ours and when you do that it makes it a lot easier to see more bad than good. I know how shitty life can be, and so do most folk here, probably, we've been through a lot - it's what makes us who we are. Concentrate on the good things, the music, the dancing, the kids, and we'll get you through A little personal plea now.... Would >>>HEATHER McDONALD<<< *please* get in touch with me? You vanished and I've not seen or heard from you since, and I've been a bit worried. On a similar note, don't you guys think a 'missing persons' office would be good for the village. Someone whose job it is to track down missing/old listees when those who need/want to talk to them can't find them? Thanks everyone. *HUGS* --Jason Andreas A one-man civil war..... 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachel at xxx.uk Mon Feb 28 13:51:07 2000 From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:51:07 -0000 Subject: Sinister: never forget Message-ID: <002c01bf81f3$468c5060$ae2c883e@preinstalledco> how? how can this be?? i watched top ten: boy bands this morning (yep, another work evading strategy...my video has never been in so much use) and boyzone beat take that to the top spot!!!! noooo that's all wrong, everyone knows that take that were the ultimate (well apart from jenowl, obviously), they even proved it on the programme by showing the video to do what u like - i've not seen that for years, i obviously missed the hilarity element of it first time round - oh it really was GRATE!! and all bloody boyzone could muster in competition was a frankly piss poor dance routine...the thought of them dancing on my doorstep was pretty funny though...even so i'm not best pleased :( i'm going to sulk now. so there. and they only spoke to fat gaz which was a crying shame. a nice interview with mark owen would have possibly made up for the travesty of the number two placing.... anyway, something else i've watched this morning (oh yes, i've been busy) is this french film what was on last night. i'm not entirely sure who taped it (it may have been me, i was a wee bit drunk yesterday...plastered would be another word, completely Not My Fault....), but it came on the tape after the boyband thing and it was absolutely fantastic. sheer class. i've never watched a film with subtitles before, i had no idea why on earth someone in my house was taping subtitled films and i thought i was going to hate it when it came on, but wow. it was really tense, really funny. sort of reminded me of mike leigh. it was called 'family resemblances' , if you ever get the chance to watch it DO! to show up my totally uncultured side i thought it made it even funnier that i didn't understand a word they were saying (what with it all being in francais y'know), kind of increased the hilarity. it really was wicked. oh, neighbours is starting now, gotta push on with my demanding schedule... lovin' and leavin' you rachel xxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeanette at xxx.com Mon Feb 28 09:12:18 2000 From: jeanette at xxx.com (Jeanette) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:12:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Where do I send my application? Message-ID: <38BA3BED.1DC3@ktc.com> Hello all. I've just realized I don't yet have a job in the village, and this concerns me. I'm not very good at being unemployed ... it's all Oprah and bon-bons, braiding and unbraiding my hair, watching the hour hand on the clock to see if I can catch it moving .... So, I'd like to sign on for nursing duties, if that position's still open. I have no training whatsoever, but I'd love to wear the uniform! I could bandage your skinned-knees (and, unless you're Mike W., I won't even ask how it happened), hand out aspirin for those pesky hangovers, and take your temperature if you're feeling feverish (rectal thermometers *are* the most accurate, aren't they?). And sponge baths are my specialty. In my spare time, I'd like to volunteer to help Steve C. with the basketball team. I could be one of those trainer-types who helps the players stretch before the game. Oh, yeah. Jeanette P.S. Don't try to run away from home again, Jason, my dear. Your punishment will be swift and severe. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com Mon Feb 28 15:10:23 2000 From: Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com (Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:10:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I was holding all Zembla pressed to my heart. Message-ID: <80256893.0052223A.00@gbemea05.emea.jwt.com> Can I be the village reclusive American author? *Can* I be?? Dammit, I *am*! Why does everyone ask? Just be! All this village malarkey reminds me of an experiment formulated by top fop poets Worsdworth and Coleridge in, oh, about 1540 probably. They decided, little poetic scamps that they were, to up-sticks to America and start a new life in a simple self-sustaining village community: a similar concept to our sinister-village, except with fewer fashion-boutiques, sex shops and window-cleaners. As it happens, they only got as far as Wales, where they lived off the land for about 3 hours before giving up ("Sod this for a game of soldiers, Mr Wordsworth. Let's get lashed"). Talking of which, whereabouts is the village to be situated, Ms. Farewell? I always think of little English rose gardens and prettily pealing church bells, but to be true to the B&S cause I thought it should probably be somewhere isolated in the Scottish wilds, which made me think that it could be on one of the islands, which made me think of that ridiculous Castaway programme, which made me think I should probably stop watching so much bad TV and get out more. What else? Robyn whispered into our communal ear: >funny that the whole Y2K thing just was so forgotten when >nothing happened. I mean, it's like all that freaking out >never happened and it's la de da da da I was wondering what happened to all the computery types who holed themselves up in bunkers with shotguns and enough food, drink and the opposite sex to ensure the continuation of the human race after the anticipated Y2K meltdown. Did they come crawling out with dreadful hangovers and sheepish expressions, apologising to their bosses after smugly resigning before New Year's eve? Talking of which, Keith M shouted from the rooftops: >american beauty is the worst movie ever but he was wrong. Kev sounded almost exactly like Holden Caulfield when he declaimed: >Overnight one of the plastic panels on >the bus shelter had been kicked out and was laying on the >pavement. All the people, me included, just kind of stood >around it and pretended it hadn't happened. Is this just >something English people do? I really couldn't bring myself >to move it out of the way. It was really awkward. Read Catcher in the Rye for more transference of random emotion to inanimate objects. Or don't. Finally, let's all hope Samantha gets better soon. You should have consulted the *sinister* doctor, dear, in our village :) *He* would have diagnosed strep throat. Or at least given it to you. J. D. Salinger --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "you take a really sleepy man, Esmé, and he always stands a chance of again becoming a man with all his fac - with all his f-a-c-u-l-t-i-e-s intact" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Mon Feb 28 16:39:43 2000 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:39:43 PST Subject: Sinister: on the bus,on the plane,on the ufo and to outter space ,baby... Message-ID: <20000228163943.70630.qmail@hotmail.com> stupid subject AGAIN! sorry for the tape tree... ..................................... hello !and how's life in da villagio?oh my....(i went for a quick wee wee and i run up the stairs and,well,when you've been smoking heavily for about 3 years,well,you know...) anyway.today i got up in the morning and decided to wear my bus t-shirt.so i went to class-intro to media studies if you MUST know-and we talked about our friend marx and his nice ol'theories.i think this wasn't pure coincidence-or is this a no-no area? apart from dat i've been seeing quite a few new names floating around in da villagio and it is so merry a thing!WELCOME my little siblings-my oh my... so,since i'm jealous because i'd like to be new again-and since i never did say my B&S experience numero uno,i shall be doing yer headz in.........NOW! right.about 3years ago(early '97)there used to be in athens,grecia this really really brilliant and absolutely gorgeous radio station called 'rodon (which means rose) 94.4FM'(R.I.P.).it was a totally independent radio station and all the best DJs of athens had shows there.one of them-whom i had the pleasure to meet after some time(a little show off every now and again hasn't harmed anyone,has it?)-is still one of the best in athens-he plays in this club.oohhhhh,the best nights of my life in there...oh,the memories...anyway,as i was saying one day he played dog on wheels.it just hit me!it was 5pm in the afternoon,quite warm for autumn and i was on my own;i had just eaten lunch and i was relaxing in my living room and this beautiful sound just filled my ears....i'll never forget that.that day he didn't say which band was that.i was guttered.so everyday i waited for him to play the song again.then one day he was talking about this new scottish band and how great they are and about tigermilk and everything but i couldn't understand the name because the bastard was mumbling horribly.it took me quite a while to understand that he was saying BELLE&SEBASTIAN!!!!!!that was it.my hunt began.i bought sinister.then one day i found a 7" vinyl of lazy-line painter jane.then i bought TWTAS.Then one night i saw on MTV's alternative nation the video of TIJAMRS.it was the first time i heard it and i wanted it!for the next month i went everyday to this rec shop in athens and nearly physically abused them until they got me a copy.and the most marvellous thing happened when i found all three of the first eps together just laying there waiting for someone -ME-to get them.i did!and when i came to england i bought tigermilk.so there you go.that is my little B&S story.i shall be harrasing you with more details in the future-maybe. the highlight of the weekend was that i bought a mobile and now i've re-established my connection with the world-it's hard living in halls and both of the phones not to be working.my phone is bright orange and it plays a tune called..ping pong....ridiculous....i've been trying to think for a name to call it.any suggestions?oh,yer,and my greeting instead of 'welcome to orange'reads 'hello gorgeous!'. you know,since no one in real life calls me like that-or anything near that-i decided that everytime i switch on my phone i will boost up my confidence.....i think i am extremely and dangerously pathetic.... anyway,i have to go because i have to go to the doctor.i'm dying you know.... bye bye babies..... "love shack is a little ol'place where we can get together....LOVE SHACK BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" GORGEOUS ZOE..... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lixibell at xxx.com Mon Feb 28 16:08:45 2000 From: lixibell at xxx.com (alix campbell) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:08:45 GMT Subject: Sinister: my computer has just spazzed out Message-ID: <20000228160845.1011.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello. i may have just sent this. using the name 'lucy watt'. very sorry if i have. this computer has a few unresolved conflicts and needs therapy. until then, it keeps doing unexpected things which don't help. Typing without being able to move my left little finger is proving to be harder than I thought. I managed to jam it between the chair and the desk and it bloody kills. Bollocks bollocks bollocks. It made me really angry as well. Can^�t explain that bit. Tight black jeans. Black jeans are awful. I used to wonder how people got in and out of really tight clothing. It just seemed to defy logic. I would watch Top of the Pops and scoff at the silly people who wore un-sensible clothes and who obviously wouldn^�t be able to deftly steer a go-cart down our drive, or play in a muddy puddle like I could. As my Da would say ^�I was so much older then^�. Or something equally patronising. Due to an unfortunate dose of Jobseeker^�s Toenail (which is how I now refer to my surplus of spare time) I was able to inspect all my 7-inch records for exciting etchings. If you give a fuck, it^�s all at the bottom of this message. I got a list crush vote. I^�d have preferred a listless, crushed vole. Although that sentence is not funny, it is still intended as a joke, and shouldn^�t be taken seriously. You know, like Timmy Mallet. I know the perfect location for the sinister village. PENGE. Caroline said: >is there yet a brownies in the sinister village. i think it would prove >most useful in teaching us how to make fridges. Fridges? Did you mean ^�fudges^�? I entered the brownies almost as soon as I could sneeze, and refused to leave until I was 17, and I never ever made anything that would successfully keep frozen goods at a steady temperature between 5c and 0c. Should I sue Brown Owl for negligee? Jason Andreas said: It's been rather an interesting time in the land of Twee lately. I've heard the word mentioned so many times in the last week that it's becoming surreal I was reading something that had ^�twee^� written in it many times (don^�t know what, perhaps some of my poems about ickle tiny mouseys who live in ickle tiny houseys) and I did that thing where you forget what a word means and you just stare at it blankly. And my spell check doesn^�t like it. It recommends ^�tweed^� and ^�wee^�. Personally I would opt for the latter, if forced. I don^�t know why punctuation goes Absolute Crazy! when I send messages. I imagine it^�s terribly annoying. Anyway, here^�s a few apostrophes and stuff for Juicy Lucy^�.<>;;;!^�^Ô£$%^&*(*){}~:@:_+-=^�/|��``��:~>}@?>}>@:}:?�$�*&&%^�!. Lets see what it makes of that, eh? I had a job interview this morning. The first ten minutes of it I talked about music in the 80s and why it was a load of toss (Smiths excluded) Not sure how this will help get me a job in a shoe shop, mind you. Then I spent money on things I can^�t afford and don^�t need. I must go and eat something. I actually bought food yesterday. Mainly potatoes. Byebye Love lixi My Etchings Bis, Secret Vampires: ^�Where is the lego spanner?^� ^�..crazy guys Prolapse, Autocade + Killing the Bland: ^�Paul syrett please step forward^� ^�My cullcane suicide (sic)^� ^�Sockfiend and crabman^� ^�Geese-a-plenty^� ^�..scary guys Powder, Deep Fried: ^�The national miracle exposure campaign^� ^�..oh who cares? I shan^�t do anymore, as I^�ve bored myself. "Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's an 8 inch anal probe, silly" ~ DNaMagazine ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From justin at xxx.com Mon Feb 28 16:52:35 2000 From: justin at xxx.com (Justin Williams) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:52:35 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Calling all Elliot Smith fans.... Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000228105225.00a8d440@192.168.1.1> I was at that show, I wish I could have a copy of the webcast...it was absolutely amazing. I stood outside in the rain for 3 hours with just myself, a friend, and three other guys. Elliott drove up while we were there, stayed and smoked a cigarette with us, and we actually got to introduce ourselves to him. He is really friendly and humble, in my eyes he is the perfect artist. Well, just in case anyone else on the list went to the show, I just want to say hello! and I wish I could have met you. If anyone knows where I can get a copy of the webcast or any recording, please let me know? I would sincerely appreciate it...take care everyone :) Justin xo At 12:47 PM 2/27/00 +0000, you wrote: > >Hey Elliott Smith Fans, > > >On SATURDAY, Feb. 26th,at the Empty Bottle in Chicago there will be a > >live webcast of Elliott's performance. He will be doing old hits and > >new songs from his upcoming album. > >The webcast will take place at 11:55 pm ET on www.Rollingstone.com and > > www.tunes.com . > >I've never heard any of the guy's stuff, but I'm sure I remember a few >people on here saying they liked him. Sorry :) > >--Jason Andreas > >A one-man civil war..... > >ICQ: 45821217 > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m_smith at xxx.uk Mon Feb 28 17:43:54 2000 From: m_smith at xxx.uk (Smith, Matthew) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:43:54 GMT Subject: Sinister: Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:42:12 -0000 Message-ID: Hello again Sorry if everyone saw this, but I just thought it was worth mentioning on the off chance that I was more alert on Saturday night at 7:30 than the rest of you (unlikely I admit!) On Blind Date one of the couples dates was to some exotic Island in the Caribbean and on one of the days they had a day trip to.......wait for it........Sinister Island!! So it actually alreeady exists, we've been beaten to it! I'm ready to emigrate straight away if anyone else fancies coming, and from the look of it there was plenty of room for WH Smiths, Second hand book-shops and the rest of the grand ideas that everyone had! Actually there didn't seem to a lot there at all apart from golden sand, tropical crystal waters and scantilly clad natives. Book shop or no, I'm going! I'll let you know how it is, drop you a post-card or something, as judging by the miserable weather in Manchester this morning I won't ever be coming back!!! See you soon Wish I was there and not here..... Matty "Some say the worlds a hopeless place, A Speck of dust in all that space, Just one hope for the human race, That I can see, Me. I'm Ace" - Anon (Not to be taken literally (ie about me) I just thought it was quite a cheerful note to start the day on!! > Matthew J Smith > Huxley Associates > Recruitment Consultant > Tel: 0161 236 9449 0121 236 4777 > Fax: 0161 236 9559 0121 236 9777 > > m_smith at huxley.co.uk > http:\\www.huxley.co.uk > > > <<...>> > > > This electronic transmission is strictly confidential and intended solely > for the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee, you must not > disclose, copy or take any action in reliance of this transmission. If > you > have received this transmission in error it would be helpful if you could > notify Huxley Associates as soon as possible. > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Mon Feb 28 19:40:40 2000 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:40:40 PST Subject: Sinister: Fwd: Message-ID: <20000228194040.47328.qmail@hotmail.com> Just forwarding a message from fellow Sinisterine... >can i ask you one favor? >i am new to the list and can't post msgs >i want to ask everyone a question about the "the state that i am in" >version on "dog on wheels", does the version have a name, is it a demo, an >alternative version? what does the band call it? >could you forward this to the list for me? >thanks very much, >onur. > And now I shall return to the cool waters of the sinister lake(tasty!) xxx genevieve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittenmouse at xxx.com Mon Feb 28 19:50:53 2000 From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (kittenmouse radio) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:50:53 -0800 Subject: Sinister: anyone want to hang out w/ a mod kid who's visiting london? In-Reply-To: <200002281114.LAA21055@missprint.org> Message-ID: hi, i apologize in advance if this is list abuse, but a good pal of mine (who isn't on the list, but probably should be) is going to be visiting London in late March, and desperately wants to meet up or hang out with like minded people since he doesn't know anything about the place (and London is REALLY big). are there any meet-ups/picnics planned for london during that time? any londoners care to hang out with a silly american who is obsessed with paul weller, scooters, b&s and esp suede? (of course pulp as well) anyway, if anyone is interested, you could correspond via email with him, just tell me and i'll give you his email addy. or you could send me yours and i'll give it to him. thanks (and to leyla, yes, you do know this person..heehee) thanks again!! sincerely, andrea kittenmouse +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GBCH at xxx.uk Mon Feb 28 23:21:36 2000 From: GBCH at xxx.uk (Chris_t_opher) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:21:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Last night a DJ saved my life. References: <200002251914.TAA16087@missprint.org> Message-ID: <000e01bf8242$8fe70e40$d43f883e@gsh> I'm the boy who could cope with solitary confinement...... Tompaulin was a laff. The audience was amusing. We had an Ali G impersonator, some big Morrissey fans (fringe et al), some (semi)gothic kids, my brother's *fuzzy* friend, a few obvious B+S fans and Me. I didnt see any badges tho, which was disappointing. AND Starry was not there!!! Tut Starry. The gig was very good, considering how few they've done before. I think virtually all of you will love the band for the two singer's voices. Just start listening to the Evening Session if you want to hear them. (foreign listees try www.bbc.co.uk/radio1) Can someone tell me what =?iso-8859-1?q?maureen=20cassera?= is supposed to say? > Cris-t-opher wants to run a RecOrD ShoP as well... so watch out Christa... you have to be more competitive... I'm quite happy to work WITH Christa. Anyway, it's going to be a busy shop, isn't it (All you music-buying sinisterines and everything)? Just one question - who IS Christa? :) Ericabot wrote: > I know a boy called Barry, he's got a ford Capri inside his arms, that's where I wanna be I know a boy called Barry, he's got a thing for me and when we kiss it feels so hea-ven-ly > I know a boy called Barry, yeah he's got his gang when they're around, he never holds my hand I know a boy called Barry, he's got a bomber jacket and the music that he likes, well it's just this awful racket. > There's a chorus too, but you'll just have to wait until I'm on Top Of The Pops for that. Well, Miss Erica, i think it should be done like one of those completely talentless punk bands. If you could get the whole song in less than 30 seconds, it's just bound to be radio-friendly and then you'll DEFINITELY go Number One. BUT, it also means you'll only be on TOTP for 30 seconds :( [SUBJECTIVE MUSIC FACT: Fonda 500 are the UK's Sparklehorse but with the nuttiness of SuperFurryAnimals, if anyone was wondering] Is there a Stylish Email class i could take?.... Chris_t_opher - King of Headaches Ps. I realised on Saturday how good Le Pastie.... actually is. I also realised how much i need Do You Remember The First Time? back in my collection. "Chris....your Watch is singing to me, man!" - A completely sober friend +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GardeningAtNight at xxx.com Mon Feb 28 22:34:58 2000 From: GardeningAtNight at xxx.com (GardeningAtNight at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:34:58 EST Subject: Sinister: help me jeebus! Message-ID: germy jeremy said: << Talking of which, Keith M shouted from the rooftops: >american beauty is the worst movie ever but he was wrong. >> So, is it good or is it crap? StuD and wee Karn didn't like it I know, and everyone I've heard either says that they love it or they hate it. The only reason I've got a sour feeling about seeing it is because of the hype, which really is an awful reason. But then, I'm probably just bitter because it was nominated and won a million times over my favorite movies of the winter, Being John Malkovich, Man on the Moon, and The Talented Mr. Ripley (which I've seen twice and I'd like to nominate as the in-house movie at the Sinister theatre.. is there one yet?). And why was the Great Beyond not nominated for best original song? Phil Collins can piss off, he's crap anyway. the thoughtful boy then said: << Finally, let's all hope Samantha gets better soon. You should have consulted the *sinister* doctor, dear, in our village :) *He* would have diagnosed strep throat. Or at least given it to you. >> Who's the doctor? Or are you being sinister and not saying it's you when it really is you, and then going ahead and saying that he, which is you, should've given it to me? You're such a cheeky monkey. I like it. But anyways, I'm better now, yeah. Just in time to go back to school and face 7 teachers, each of whom thinks their class is the most important. I about drove myself insane worrying about each upcoming class, especially photography in which I missed the darkroom demonstration. I thought I'd love this class, but my teacher's a real *moke* and makes me feel like a complete klutz (which I am, but she should at least be sympathetic). I'm working with a partner now and we've not even developed our film yet, whilst everyone else in the class is already making contact sheets. We just whisper to each other, "do you know what we're supposed to do next?" And we never know and are too afraid to ask the teacher. I want to transfer to a school in the Sinister village. Or at least switch to Ink Polaroids. Tony said regarding buying Nick Drake a pint and having a chat: << but this is exactly what he was like - happy, laughing enjoying a pint and a smoke in the local, the myth of the melancholy loner is only half the truth. How he became lost is a mystery even to his closest friends. Read Patrick Humphries' biography for more insight... >> That book is one of my bibles, I love it. But I still feel like chris_t_opher does about Nick. Because all I know about him is from the stories I've read and the music, which is otherworldly on its own in a way, everything regarding his life just seems like a dream to me. There's only one interview with him personally that I've ever read and there's only that small bit of recorded spoken word. There's nothing solid about him, even looking at photographs. And it's all from so long ago (at least to me, I was born 10 years after he died). It's hard to explain but I think you understand. I think that if I actually saw Tanworth and his grave, he might seem realer. I hope so at least. And I hope that there's a good deal on airfare so my mom will agree on going to England for spring break. Samantha +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Mon Feb 28 23:59:00 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:59:00 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Pantsocracy Message-ID: <200002281859_MC2-9B12-4387@compuserve.com> Big up all the slack arseholes on the Sinister list! J.D. Salinger wrote: "All this village malarkey reminds me of an experiment formulated by top fop poets Worsdworth and Coleridge in, oh, about 1540 probably. They decided, little poetic scamps that they were, to up-sticks to America and start a new life in a simple self-sustaining village community: ...As it happens, they only got as far as Wales, where they lived off the land for about 3 hours before giving up ("Sod this for a game of soldiers, Mr Wordsworth. Let's get lashed"). & I thought to myself, he must mean Coleridge & Southey, who laid plans to form 'Pantisocracy' in Pennsylvania during the 1790's. That'll be me for the village pedant, then, an activity I can subsidise from my sales of infra-red binoculars to the Sini-pervs from my stall down by the lake. David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SlowRobot at xxx.com Mon Feb 28 23:58:56 2000 From: SlowRobot at xxx.com (blair hicks) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:58:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: but i don't even believe in jeebus! Message-ID: <28817836.951782337624.JavaMail.imail@bubbles.excite.com> oh sinister, goodness knows i've tried to sit down and write the lot of you, but time hasn't been on my side as of late. apologies all around - i know that my two previous posts left you yearning for more, and i'm only sorry i haven't made myself a little less forgettable. somebody has to run the comic book shop in the sinister village, and no one is more suited to the task than me (hopefully, this will finally kill my remaining hope for a list-crush vote). i'll stock the shelves and mind the back-issues, while maintaing that cynical, snide, and generally jaded demeanor that comic store patrons have grown to love. thought it's so un-hip that it stinks to high heaven, i had my first sinister dream the other night, and now you all get to read about it. all i recall was that the group was playing in front of a red velvet curtain, and that only their silhouettes were visible. god only knows what all that amounts to, psycologically speaking. before i move this posse on down the trail, let me just say to all of you lovely people who joined my transformers mailing list that i'm really, amazingly sorry that there hasn't been any mail for weeks and weeks. i've been having some problems as of late, but things should be up and running again in just a little bit. bless you lot for signing up at all - you're all going to heaven. fondly, blair _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freeworld.excite.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmulloy at xxx.com Tue Feb 29 01:14:55 2000 From: kmulloy at xxx.com (Kate Mulloy) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 01:14:55 GMT Subject: Sinister: Sitting at the keyboard, wondering what to say first, I finally decide to say... Message-ID: <20000229011455.1369.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello! (such begins my entrance into this ever-sinister world) Having never had an opportunity to write until now, you must all promise to bear with me if I make a few mistakes...are you promising?...good. I've studied and studied the rules with such zeal as to make my Calculus prof jealous but I may forget one here or there and I do hope that you'll all promptly correct me. I'll describe myself (just a bit so as not to bore) because I always think in pictures (don't you?) and description lends itself most wonderfully to imagination...let's see...I run, I skip, I even prance on occasion, I'm continually in motion, either physically or mentally and hence tend to live in a continual stream of conciousness...I absolutely adore the cozy solitude of umbrellas, and ee cummings, (B&S of course), the smell of spring rain, and that sound of horse hoofs on cobble-stones. Personified, I'd have to be bubblewrap or something else that is completely frivolous yet useful to have around...hmmm...I guess that's all the important stuff. Velocity!- I meant to compliment you on your most wonderful village...can I play a part as well?...Do you have someone to run the health food store? I can be the resident tree-hugger as well if you wish...think of it!...to spend a summer wasting; selling granola, wearing Berkies, and hugging maples...Belle/Sebastian-- are you reading this now? Think of what a wonderful song this village would make- we could become immortal! Well, I'm afraid that I must Submit finally to the tyrany of Microeconomics, Love in 12pt font, Katie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittenmouse at xxx.com Tue Feb 29 01:34:01 2000 From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (kittenmouse radio) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:34:01 -0800 Subject: Sinister: b&s a thru z on portland radio, tonight In-Reply-To: <200002231456.OAA18955@missprint.org> Message-ID: hi, if you live in portland, oregon and well, if yr on this list, obviously you like belle and sebastian...i'm doing a special show tonight called belle and sebastian a thru z (or actually z thru a). all the songs off of their official jeepster releases (so far) will be played in backwards alphabetical order. part one will be today, Monday feb 28, from approx 8:30 - 10 pm, and part two will be on monday, march 13, same time. the radio station is kpsu 1450 am, and is only broadcast in the portland area...unfortunately, we aren't broadcasting on the internet yet...sorry. anyway, thanks. andrea kittenmouse at hotmail.com kittenmouse radio kpsu 1450 am portland, oregon kpsu.org +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From colin.mowat at xxx.net Tue Feb 29 02:36:58 2000 From: colin.mowat at xxx.net (Colin Mowat) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 02:36:58 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Camber Sands.......now that got your attention! Message-ID: <01ad01bf825e$4287dc80$f9cd2cc3@default> Tuesday 29 February 2000 01:56 Dear People, First of all - HAPPY LEAP YEAR'S DAY - now I can't say that here for another four years second, and just as important, I was in Oxfam (a charity shop) in Ealing, West London today and for £1.99 I got a copy of (on cassette) Songs of the Free by Gang of Four, now this is wierd because I, just two days ago, ordered their first album called Entertainment from amazon. I used to own both of these albums in the early '80's on vinyl (and I've no idea if there were any center etchings - so no one ask me).......so what? I hear in chorus...well nostalgia is part of it, but it's also a great album, although now deleted. Entertainment was a better album, as far as I remember and I now can't wait to hear it again. Anthrax was a brilliant track. So what's so good about them.........? "one the most powerful rhythm sections of the era, completed a line-up that was soon in the post-punk vanguard" "King's Marxist-intellectual lyrics drew much attention, but it was the band's overall sound which startled - punky in its minimalism and attack, but made distinctive by Gill's choppy, stroppy guitar style, involving lashings of feedback - sometimes brilliant, sometimes awful - which were fully incorporated into the songs, rather than as a mere climax to the performance. (This technique anticipated the sonic assault of The Jesus & Mary Chain in the mid-80s.) Of equal importance to the Gang's sound was the inventive drumming of Burnham, and Allen's rich, driving bass, which provided a watertight 'martial funk' basis for freewheeling voice and guitar. The overall effect was of Dr. Feelgood and Sly And The Family Stone rehearsing in the same room." "Gang Of Four's rock-funk template was being widely adopted by everyone from Talking Heads to The Pop Group" "Entertainment shredded everything that came before it. The Gang Of Four know how to swing. I stole a lot from them" Michael Stipe REM all quotes from The Rough Guide to Rock If you get a chance take a listen (try your library), don't miss out............and listen for influences on B&S.........Well I can't find any but I had to metion B&S, didn't I Honey. Anyone out there remember Gang of Four?.........go on admit it! yeah, yeah so I also remember seeing Bill Grundy egging on the Sex Pistols to swear on early evening telly in 1976.....(now that's a piece of history).......... Sinisteree 1 - "What's he going on about? Sinisteree 2 - Don't ask me I wasn't even born in '76. ....as I said nostalgia..........try and avoid it - you can't - for me it's Poggles Wood and UFO and my dad driving us to Camber Sands.......now you've all heard of Camber Sands (yeah, well it was there in 1970 as well).................... as I said nostalgia..............so what's your nostalgia?.........come on, don't be shy! sweet dreams and sweeter dadreams (that was supposed to be daydreams - must have been thinking of Camber Sands).......by the way I take my kids there now........well I used to anyway........hope to do it again this year......... the more that things change, the more they stay the same (can't remember the French translation) Colin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Tue Feb 29 04:49:01 2000 From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:49:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: oopsy-daisy! Message-ID: <200002290446.XAA13218@s1.nassau.cv.net> well, leyla was a pleasant girl and said i could be sinister's official massage-er, which i think is GRATE since i give such good ones. but i still want to be the Mediocre Street Busker, ok? so everyone be pleasant! i am listening to allen clapp, and he is GRATE, even if i haven't been listening very hard. i am waiting until i get a discman so i'm forced to concentrate. does anyone have an old four-track recorder they would like to sell me? i could really use one, just to putz around on... i like making tapes of things, being a budding songwriter and all... anyway. not sure what else there si to say. of course, i haven't read through my daily allotment of sinister messages today, so there might be something to reply to... so you might be hearing from me again tonight. ah, well. aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From modpopstar at xxx.com Tue Feb 29 06:20:35 2000 From: modpopstar at xxx.com (Leyla McNickle) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:20:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: oopsy-daisy! Message-ID: <20000229062035.19604.qmail@web307.mail.yahoo.com> pleasant girl, maybe...but i'm afraid I didn't say anything about an 'official massage-er" must have gotten me confused with some other equally as pleasant girl. sorry. leyla p.s. anyone know how i can set my mail to 'no mail' without subscribing from sinister..whilst i am in london. thanks. --- adam apparatus wrote: > well, leyla was a pleasant girl and said i could be > sinister's > official massage-er, which i think is GRATE since i > give such good > ones. but i still want to be the Mediocre Street > Busker, ok? so > everyone be pleasant! > > i am listening to allen clapp, and he is GRATE, even > if i haven't > been listening very hard. i am waiting until i get a > discman so i'm > forced to concentrate. > > does anyone have an old four-track recorder they > would like to sell > me? i could really use one, just to putz around > on... i like making > tapes of things, being a budding songwriter and > all... > > anyway. not sure what else there si to say. of > course, i haven't read > through my daily allotment of sinister messages > today, so there might > be something to reply to... so you might be hearing > from me again > tonight. ah, well. > > aconover at optonline.net > Tempus Fugit is at: > http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister > mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. > To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe > sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: > http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads > and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & > sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart > david, looper +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ===== http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pavilion/4941/ ******************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redelvis at xxx.net Tue Feb 29 09:48:43 2000 From: redelvis at xxx.net (JR?) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 01:48:43 -0800 Subject: Sinister: imagine theres no countries... References: <007901bf81f2$5ec37600$981f3c3e@default> Message-ID: <38BB95FB.88086D70@pacbell.net> Jason The Man Of Big Phone Bills Andreas wrote: > Well, I dunno if I'm a doll, but if there's any gal out there who wants an > action man dont get cheeky on me! obviously doctor you've never been a thirteen year old girl... i'm listening to The Virgin Suicides by AIR, and its really good mood music. also i just heard the my bloody valentine remix of sweetness and light (by lush) and its gorgeous. but in any case i was pondering my duty in the sinister village. first i thought i'd just be the local beggar, but i got tired of the idea. then i wanted to be a spy, but i don't want to hurt anyone and most likely i'd have to. then i thought, rollercoaster conductor? but then i'd be called rollercoaster conductor all my life... maybe on the weekends or for carnivals. i think people who play sports, should play ALL the sports. i think i want to be park ranger! is there a park ranger? i want to sit in a park and feed the birds! and i wanna take care of trees, i'll be tree expert! am i asking too much? :( i mean there might be another park ranger! AHHH! you think you're a man but you're only a boy, Daniel Ryder http://foolarchy.com/redelvis http://www.gurlpages.com/music/jnthn icq-1010543 aim-coxonryder i'm not going to take any risks this time... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ralvarad at xxx.edu Tue Feb 29 10:16:09 2000 From: ralvarad at xxx.edu (Anthony Alvarado) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:16:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Helpful monkey wallpapers entire home Message-ID: Hello Glass siblings, I knew some of the postings sounded familair, like I had met some of you somewhere, sometime, long ago, but it just didn't click where until I read David Moore's posting with the Salinger bit, and I thought Eureka! Honestly the word eureka flashed above my head, because I am certain that Seymour Franny and co. have been making posts incognito. I'm writing because it is obscenly late. It is obscenely late because my neighbor insists that he can't sleep until he polishes of at least one bottle of wine, and wine is no fun to drink alone...so I am sacrificing sleep to help the more needy. So tell me something, should I give up on Yo La Tengo, I got Strange but true, and it's a CD long joke, which would be funny if it wasn't the same joke for every song. ( the songs are all from tabloids with titles like Retired grocer constructs tiny mount Rushmore entirely out of cheese, or my personal favourite: Minnesota man claims monkey bowled perfect game!) and then Genuis+ Love, the other CD I gambled own is 80% instrumental, which is ok, but just ok, and not at all like the beautiful tunes I've heard on the radio. ah, the wine is here! -a +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erica.macarthur at xxx.com Tue Feb 29 11:51:39 2000 From: erica.macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:51:39 -0000 Subject: Sinister: aimez-moi jusqu'a ce que soyez mort Message-ID: <004101bf82ab$82445cc0$a24d063e@default> Mon Cheri vous, SINISTER - YOUR SLIP IS SHOWING Roll up, roll up!I can confirm that the Sinister Your Slip Is Showing Gallery is now open! You can now see Peter Miller's support tights in all their framed glory - we're putting them on order if anyone wants a pair. You should have been at the ceremony - we got Patsy Palmer to do the honours and Jeremy Paxman turned up drunk! He kept shouting "huuurry up, hurry uup!" as Patsy paused for the press to snap her picture as she cut the ribbon. http://www.missprint.org/cgi-bin/photo.cgi?gallery=slipups Jeremy later staggered over to Miss honey and said "you're a veeery beautiful lady, don ever let annyone tell you nose different" before promtly passing out. QUOTING >as I said nostalgia..............so what's your nostalgia?.........come on, >don't be shy! It's early nineties Neon for me, I'm afraid. The Fresh Prince of Bell Air, Nena Cherry videos. Shell suits, too. Mine was black with a pink stripe down the side of the trousers - I did my Gold Lifesavers award in them, and it got to the bit where we had to jump in the pool with all our clothes on and the space between the material and the lining filled up with air - I couldn't even swim under the water because I'd become a huge boyancy aid. >I was in Oxfam (a charity shop) I went to Help the Aged (a charity shop) the other day and bough a scarf with polka dots and dogs on. I'm going to wear it on the 9th of March for BAXENDALE, so watch out London - Scarlet, Magda and Vedette are coming to town, as well as Leyla and Sarah, I hear. OBLIGITORY DEAR DIARY PART I think I've seen enough naked men to last me a lifetime. Last night Life Drawing was a little better than usual as I came late and the only space left to sit was next to pretty punk boy, Ollie. I said "you've dyed you hair" and he said "yes". He spent the next two hours telling me about a street artist whose name I can't remember, and said I seemed like a neat and polite young lady. I said he should see my room, then I stammered and blushed and dropped my pencil. We both went to pick it up at the same time and bumped out heads. Which was nice. Vous etes ma saveur de favouri, Erica x The House of Scarlet - lock up your sons. http://www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From minamars at xxx.com Tue Feb 29 12:56:26 2000 From: minamars at xxx.com (Mina Mars) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 04:56:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: my silent days are over! Message-ID: <20000229125626.29624.qmail@web3603.mail.yahoo.com> wow!!! this is the actual inside of sinister!!!! I can't believe I finnally got out of the nursery!!! it was nice, warm and easy....but I bet this is going to be much mooore fun! I'm new...BUT I'm going to try and be nice to you all and post beautiful msgs full of meaning (well, maybe not so full...)and interesting stuff (not that I have anything special to say...I'll just make something up for the occasion). mmmmm.....about the sinister village... can I have a place where I can sell stuff that shines? I mean those little crystal balls to make necklaces, and also fake diamonds, and paillettes, and round buttons and... don't know what else... can I? does it exist already? if it does, I could take just being the assistant.... I hope something comes up to my imagination and post again. :) first kisses to you all here in the fun zone. mina __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Tue Feb 29 13:52:40 2000 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:52:40 PST Subject: Sinister: up form the dead Message-ID: <20000229135240.61398.qmail@hotmail.com> well people u all probably think i have vanished well i did almost..but I am back and kicking like we say..here in polarbear county well so I was wondering if anyone knows when and where the next tomorrows parties is..? right now..I feel like... well the best to describe how i feel is to quote belle and seb " in a town so small there is no escaping you in a town so small there is no escape from view in a town so small there's nothing left to do.." I fell like that in this small now..I think if i had the money time and effort I'd be long gone on a vacation..to where my heart belongs.. uk well finally a little hello to my old picnicfriends all of you who met me in july and made my lips smile.. marcus, jeff, martin, debbie, mark, and the rest hugs miss u becka http://travel.to/blondie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.alder at xxx.uk Tue Feb 29 15:05:25 2000 From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:05:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: NNNRRRRRRRRAGH!* Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F3352F28@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk> So, 29th of February it is. My watch thinks it's March already. That's what happens when you go to Argos, kids! Apparently some 13th century queen dictated that on this day, gurls can ask boyz to marry them and if they refuse, they incur a hy-uge fine. Sounds like a great way to get even with your worst enemy - he either ends up substantially out of pocket, or you can inflict a lifetime of misery upon him, hopefully with the help of a heavy-bottomed frying pan. I'm definitely having a heavy-bottomed frying pan in my B&B - I can cook my famous breakfasts in it and use it to deter guests from fighting over the remote control in the lounge at the same time. Well, maybe not at the same time - hot fat's the devil to get out of long-pile carpets and it doesn't half pong. Velocity said: >>as I'm really considering marriage with a certain person, I think we should forget our honeymoon in Vegas and go to Lucy's Bed & Breakfast instead... what do you think love? I'd like to say that it would be an honour. I can't promise you high kicking cabaret artists or glitzy gambling dens (although I'm sure plenty sinisterines could demonstrate their high kicking technique after a bottle or two of Babycham and the pub will doubtless have a one-armed bandit), but I can promise you your own teasmade, two packets of shortbread fingers and, if you decide to fork out an extra tenner, an ensuite bathroom. Otherwise, you'll have to wrap yourselves in towels and tiptoe down the corridor. What I'd like to know is who's going to do the dodgy jobs in the village? Who's going to collect our rubbish? Clear out the blocked U-bend? Go down manholes to monitor the sewerage system? Feed the pigs? Scoop up the dog pooh on the pavements? There's been far to much luvvie-duvvie crap on the list lately - it doesn't feel natural. Go on, nominate your worst enemy to clear up the dogshite, I dare you. Juicy Lucy *What do you think of my Kelis impression then? Not bad, eh? I've been practising. Yes. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brandtpfundak at xxx.com Tue Feb 29 16:11:27 2000 From: brandtpfundak at xxx.com (Brandt Fundak) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:11:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: How twee can it be? Message-ID: <20000229161127.16044.qmail@web1803.mail.yahoo.com> Last night I was trying to fall asleep and for some reason I turned on the Cartoon Network (I never watch the Cartoon Network) and saw the Powerpuff Girls were on. For some reason i was drawn to it, and was rewarded by hearing an ultra twee song performed by them. The only downside was that I wished I had the 7" (yes I know there is no 7") Anyway, the real reason i am writing is because last night it popped in my head to attempt to make an ultimate crush tape (even though I have a crush on no one) so I could put in the vault. I jotted down a list of songs I could think of (about 20 songs by rose melberg alone) but I was wondering what suggestions you have. I can not identify a good Belle and Sebastian song for such a tape, but perhaps I am overlooking something. Any help you can give would be appreciated. Brandt, still in awe that he met Bruce McCulloch. ===== "Selma, Jub Jub is fantastic! He's everywhere you want to be!" --Troy McClure __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Tue Feb 29 16:12:47 2000 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:12:47 BST Subject: Sinister: someone left chewing gum on the side of the bath(thought you'd l Message-ID: <1E0C4D927FA@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> hey kids, i am officially a bad person, i could see myself being late for a maths lecture, so i came to check my email instead. but, not only that i managed to get onto a bus without paying, although it was a stagecoach bus, so i allowed myself some satisfaction for getting one over on some even badder people. ha ha. thought i should post because somehow or other i have two crush votes, and if i was the crushers (as opposed to crushee) i would have moved them by now after such a period of inactivity. i forced my flatmates to watch quadrophenia last night, the conversation this inspired went as follows: dumb flatmate: what's this about then? less dumb flatmate: scooters dumb flatmate: what? less dumb flatmate: you know your lambretta top, well its about lambretta scooters dumb flatmate: but don't lambretta make mopeds. fiona, what's this film about? fiona: shut the fuck up then we invented a form of waste disposal, its a game called 'see who can throw the pizza box out of a really narrow window.' i won, beating both the lads who were playing, but i couldn't quite manage the empty ketchup bottle. does anyone else feel like the sinister village is starting to bear an uncanny resemblence to greendale of postman pat fame? we just need a handy man called ted glen, (who can just about fix anything you'll ever need to mend, maybe a tractor or a ladder or a broken frying pan, just go down and see him and he'll help you if he can) and mrs goggins in the post office, and and and, i'll stop before i get any more carried away i've come to the conclusion that the reason that everyone loves jenowl is because she is every character in a b+s song. all the twee schoolgirlish ones anyway. i imagine her to be partly the girl in expectations and partly the 'mousy girl on the end pew.' (sorry if that offends, but i mean it in the nicest possible way) sure i had something else to say.... shit it was really interesting, its no good, my little brain can't cope. i'm in one of those crises at the moment you see, where a bloke i don't like keeps phoning me all the time, and the one that i've become quite obsessed with, err, doesn't. i know, i'll just do what i usually do; i'll get rilly drunk and accost him, always an embarassing yet effective way to achieve your goals. i shall prolly get back to you shortly with whatever the interesting thing was that i couldn't remember, i seem to have taken to staying in this week anyway, so you might find me being more prolific. love and jaffa cakes, (noticed some of you have been inserting inferior kinds of confectionery here, jaffa cakes will conquer the earth - accept no substitute) fiona - the jaffa cake gurl +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erica.macarthur at xxx.com Tue Feb 29 16:32:22 2000 From: erica.macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:32:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The Running Man References: <004101bf82ab$82445cc0$a24d063e@default> Message-ID: <002601bf82d2$accfb620$274f063e@default> Hello again you lot, sorry to post twice in a day but I thought I'd mention that band Belle and Sebastian (who?) are in this month's select - there's the best picture I've ever seen of Stuart Murdoch on the poster page and a lovely one of him and isobel playing/laughing with/at a puppy in the review. Here follows the snippet of interview they put in from Stuart - I can't be bothered to type out the review (of the EP box set - 4 stars). Sorry if someone has beat me to the post. The April issue of Select also features a two page spread about Hefner, so hurrah for them. *** "I PUT ON MY SHORTS AND RUN OFF MY FRUSTRATIONS" Just before Stuart Murdoch abandoned God's gift of speech (at least to the press) he spoke to Select. Here are some previously unpublished excerpts Whose is the canine cuddly toy on the sleeve of the 'Dog on Wheels' EP? "Oh, that's patch. I found him in 1994, short of a wheel in the entrance to a resturant. I stuffed him in a plastic bag and took him home. He's gone now, because I have him to Joanne [cover star of both 'Dog on Wheels' and the 'Tigermilk' album], who I shared a flat with at the time. She's kept hold of him and she's moved down to Lonon. So, Patch is probably living down in the smoke, probably wearing a little beret and getting into the bohemian lifestyle." You've had some pretty disticntive press shots - Joanne with the dog on wheels, cellist Isobel in a dusk mask. What's the thinking behind these? "I think that, over time, these pictures will come to have a certain relevance. At the start it was good to use Joanne, because that was the outset of the band and they weren't comfortable having their pictures taken. I think it's difficult to be intuitive at the same time as being guarded and to anticipate things and worry about things, which I suppose has happened a wee bit." The girl who's "into S&M and Bible studies" in 'If You're Feeling Sinister'. the devious priest in 'The State I am In' - would it be fait to say you have an ambivalent attitude to Christianity? "Yes, quite possibly, but I've never discussed it with a church person. There are quite a lot of nun where I live and I'm always thinking maybe I should talk to them about certain aspects of Christianity." Do you still go running these days? (a subject that's addressed in the song 'The Loneliness of The Middle Distance Runner' as broadcast on the Millennium Eve Tube special.) "I still do it now and then and I still enjoy it, but I'm not going at it very seriously these days. It used to be that if I hadn't run a few miles every day I'd feel really guilty. I don't feel like that anymore. I still find it really enjoyable though - to put on a pair of running shoes and run off. That's probably a mystery to people who've never done it before...I just put on my shorts and run off my frustrations." *** Erica x P.s Oh, and when I said: > and bumped out heads. Which was nice. Earlier, I actually meant bumped *our* heads. Sorry, I had to correct it, I'll only do a Dastoor and lay up all night thinking about it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Feb 29 17:01:22 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:01:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: www.bobthebuilder.org Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22DB3823@SERVER1> It's funny, but I always thought Kelis was doing a Lucy Alder impression. Hmm Stuart Murdoch (why doesn't he post any more?) mentioned "a lot of nun". It seems this wasn't only my illicit schoolboy fantasy. He also mentioned his shorts, which has probably resulted in a run on Epsom salts in bedrooms across the land. Legs of Sex indeed. So who proposed, then? Someone must've. And Stevie, in case you're panicking, the fine for refusing the lady's proposal is only "a swingeing pound", so you can just give her a copy of Trousercuts AND ask for change. Well, I'm up bugger creek today - the management here at Corporate Megalith PLC are cracking down on non-work related emails. They are compiling a report for the directors. Ulp. Having said that, I actually quite fancy absolving myself, breaking down in a heap of tearful confession and begging for my job. So perhaps I won't be posting all that much. Thank god, eh? I wrote something nasty about Paul Weller before, but I'm not feeling my usual bitchy self, so I've erased it. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Tue Feb 29 17:03:14 2000 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:03:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I used to say dumb things, I guess I still do. Message-ID: <38BBFBD2.574722A4@cs.strath.ac.uk> Just a quickie ooh er missus etc etc. I said: > And I'd quite like to be on the footie team, if > Lucy will let me and if my dodgy knee ever gets better. The idea of Lucy > as big Ron Atkinson is one I find strangely appealing... Then I had a Nick Dastoor moment while brushing my teeth that night when I thought 'hang on, I said Lucy didn't I, and it should have been Rachel shouldn't it?'. I think it's because they both talk about football a lot. And I also said: > two new listees I like: > Samantha for her email address Though somehow the rest of that sentence, which was "and her charm and wit and intelligence and general loveliness and all that" got deleted by my stupid computer. I'm such a moke. Colin: >as I said nostalgia..............so what's your nostalgia?.........come on, >don't be shy! Early Abba albums when on holiday in Arran. But nostalgia's not what it used to be and all that. Jeanette: > In my spare time, I'd like to volunteer to help Steve C. with the > basketball team. I could be one of those trainer-types who helps the > players stretch before the game. Oh, yeah. I'm already imagining conversations in the the Village: Jeanette: Hi, I'm Jeanette Stranger: Oh, hello, and what do you do? Jeanette: I help the basketball players stretch before a game Stranger: Nice job! Jeanette: 5 Dollars a night Stranger: Not much Jeanette: I know, it's all I can afford. Anthony: > So tell me something, should I give up on Yo La Tengo, No, just buy "I can hear the heart beating as one" and have your faith restored. And the new one is very nice in places, though a little dull in others. This has turned out longer and less interesting than I intended, so I'll go. Alasdair xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Feb 29 17:49:43 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:49:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Mummy Changes Everything Message-ID: <005101bf82dd$968bf080$61a9243e@itjfvkli> Your Slip Is Showing's show is slipping. And it's only just started. Those are not my support hose at all. Close observation reveals the price ticket to be in DOLLARS. Which can only mean one thing. They belong to Reid Dossinger. I yearn for the days when people thought I was Paul. Nowadays I get treated like a homophobic pornfreak in support hose. The fact that Mr and Mrs David didn't like "American Beauty" can only be a good sign. I enjoyed it. I also enjoyed "East is East". It provokes nostalgia for a better time, when streets were full of bouncing spacehoppers. Rough Guide to Rock wrote something about Gang of Four's funk-rock template being adopted by everyone from Talking Heads to The Pop Group. And presumably Funkadelic and The Bar-Kays and Jimi Hendrix and Rufus Thomas, only backwards in time. To name but four. I don't think you can really give The Gang of Four all the credit for that one. Does "martial funk" mean the same as "leaden-booted funk"? Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Tue Feb 29 18:06:56 2000 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:06:56 EST Subject: Sinister: A january gale was roaring up the channel.... Message-ID: <3b.1a3161a.25ed64c0@aol.com> Hewwo! How's everyone in sinisterdale? Don't you just hate people who abuse buses? Buses are BLUDDY GRATE but all the hard kids think it's fabby fun to rip out the lights and throw them out the window, or open the emergency exit and risk everyone on the buses lives. Today we all got thrown off in the middle of nowhere because people did just that. And it was BLUDDY COLD and we all had to walk because none of the other buses would take school children on. But at first we couldn't even get off the bus because we had to wiat for the police to arrive. And all the hard kids were chanting, "Haw, the bus driver's a bawbag" to the tune of that Glory glory hallelujah song, and trying to goad the bus driver on to hit them when he was only doing his job. And he was only a wee young guy, with specs and a nervous twitch, prolly fresh out of bus drivers training school. And it's going to end up the none of the buses will let any kids on the bus ever again. And I love going on the bus, because you can meet lots of interesting people and talk to old ladies who tell you interesting stuff and sometimes give you a sweetie. Yesterday I bought some strawberry jelly to suck in cubes, but one of the hard kids found it when they were going through my bag (why? I don't know, it's not like they were going to find any fags there). Anyway, they're all so much tougher than me, so when I tried to get it back, they pushed me over and ripped my jelly up and stamped it into the carpet. And the teacher wasn't too pleased, not because everyone was ganging up on me (again), but oh no god forbid, the classroom carpet got jelly on it! When will sinister village be ready so that I can come and live in it, because the real world's a moke and it really doesn't like me. Everybody on sinister is being really nice to me at the moment, and it's making me go all red. Today a total of 5 people pointed out that my badge was upside down. And nobody from sinister has come up to me yet. We had to do a talk in history. I did battleships and got a bit over-excited, because ships are BLUDDY GRATE, and now everyone's doing impressions of me in school. Cheerfully now, I'm going all the way into Glasgow tomorrow to get new glasses. Glasgow's really good. toodle-pip, Jen xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GBCH at xxx.uk Tue Feb 29 20:01:20 2000 From: GBCH at xxx.uk (Chris_t_opher) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:01:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Where ARE my hands? Where ARE my hands? References: <200002291638.QAA00314@missprint.org> Message-ID: <000b01bf82ef$c06b10e0$2621883e@gsh> Hello Spunkies.... I'd just like to say, Kate Mulloy you ARE my exact inverse!: > I run, I skip, I even prance on occasion, I'm > continually in motion, either physically or mentally and hence tend to live > in a continual stream of conciousness...I absolutely adore the cozy solitude > of umbrellas, and ee cummings, (B&S of course), the smell of spring rain, > and that sound of horse hoofs on cobble-stones. Personified, I'd have to be > bubblewrap or something else that is completely frivolous yet useful to have > around You live in "a continual stream of conciousness" and i live in "a continual stream of un-conciousness". I'll be watching you very closely, my dear. I passed my driving test today ("By the skin of your teeth":)) There's just one little problem - I can't drive safely. Anyone got any advice to give me before i kill you? It doesnt help that my mum has a little diddy Fiesta. A vertically-challenged Gnome would struggle to fit in it, so how am i supposed to? Is anyone else listening to crap music but still loving it more than anything? At the moment, Puressence, Khaya, Superstar and Fonda 500 are being over-played. They just sound so different to the other things i'm listening to. I wouldnt even say *different* meant better. I just need to hear something else before the magic of If You're Feeling Sinister wears off. You know what i mean? Busy Fiona said: > we just need a handy man called ted glen, So i think Ted Glen should be Ted (Tew). Simple as that, really :) And: > love and jaffa cakes Obviously a winning combination. I was just wondering why there aren't *giant* jaffa cakes. I mean, they always get eaten sooooo quickly so why not make something more substantial? I'm sure Fiona wouldnt object to that, would she? Nature Boy, Nature Girl, Dont stop DJ, HERE WE GO... Chris_t_opher - King of "shall i shut up with these emails now" "Plop Plop Plop" - The presence of rain is always a good think, dontcha think? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com Tue Feb 29 20:59:33 2000 From: andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com (Andrew CHurchman) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:59:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: it was sunny when i woke up for school this morning Message-ID: <20000229205933.27251.qmail@web1609.mail.yahoo.com> hello sinister, I think this is gonna be my first big sinister therapy e-mail. I'm sitting here at my computer, it's really nice out side so i feel bad even sitting inside in the first place. All last week i had off of school so it's been extremely difficult getting back into the"swing of things". I had some epiphanies this week off, the first talking to a old friend of mine and the second watching the Godfather. They both deal with the "relationship" i tried to get into and the girl that pretty much broke my heart. So, i've stopped pretending things would work out and realized, she just doesn't feel the same way, and it's not healthy to have a relationship that's not mutual. Anyway..... i just wanted to tell everyone about two great bands that have recently blow my mind. 1) the Microphones - doug of D+, great acoustic songs with innocent childlike singing, as well as some lo-fi noise experimentation. 2) ... and you will know us by the trail of dead. chaotic, loud, emotional terror. bratty and noisy, very good stuff! but i wanted to share some lyrics of one of there songs that is exactly how i feel: if i could make a list of my mistakes and regrets i'd put your name on top and every line after it. because every inch of hope becomes a world of shame i have to walk through each and every day. Anyway, thanks for reading, i can't wait for the box set next tuesday, it should make me feel a lot better. Also, i was wondering if anyone has any live B+S videos , perticularly Black Sessions, that they would be willing to trade?? if you could help me out i'd be extremely apprectiative. See ya all later. --------- andrew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keshi at xxx.it Tue Feb 29 21:59:21 2000 From: keshi at xxx.it (francesca) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:59:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: i hate the 29th of february... Message-ID: <001901bf8300$78dab120$db061997@a07195> if only was holiday today would have been really better (ehm i don't know if it's grammaticaly correct). hi all, i was in a very bad mood today. in my class we're all wondering about the people who was born on a 29/2. when is their birthday in the years without 29/2? is there anyone here that knows something about a group called balboy? i listened to a little piece of "donald in the bushes" and i'd like to know something about them. alasdair said: >Two new listees I like: >Samantha for her email address and Francesca for saying > (i'm new love >me) >which immediately made me love her. oh thanks i'm so happy :) i'm worried because next week i'll have to talk i don't know where or about what to a lot of people and i don't like it :( but i can't say no when they asked me ('cause my sister have just told me that sometimes i am too rude with people so i was trying to show my kindness to all the world) is there any botanical garden in sinister village? i can work there i really like botanical garden!!!! :) bye francesca +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wffej at xxx.com Tue Feb 29 19:50:07 2000 From: wffej at xxx.com (wffej !!!) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:50:07 EST Subject: Sinister: its hard not having problems.. Message-ID: <20000229195008.29341.qmail@hotmail.com> so i was thinking that the alcohol bussiness and fast food restraunts must have some type of agrrement going on where the bars put some type of chemicals in their drinks that make you want to go eat some horrid stuff you most normaly wouldnt think about eating. its always amusing waking up the next morning with empty wrappers and drink containers that are partially full with mountain dew. the first thought always crosses "who the hell ate this crap" but anyway i dont have much to say, never really do, its always a struggle to come up with intellectual things to say to people, so i tend to let others talk until i get drunk enough and the words start to flow freely, then i lose stuff and forget, but its all in good fun. but i thought id try and make some sort of effort to the evergoing conversatian, even though most are probabaly thinking "ok buddy whateva" but it was fun and ill see you all at the howdown-ffej ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox at xxx.com Tue Feb 29 22:43:57 2000 From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:43:57 GMT Subject: Sinister: that bus controversy rekindled Message-ID: <20000229224357.61071.qmail@hotmail.com> Jenowl demanded: Don't you just hate people who abuse buses? To wit, yes, for sure, absolutely. But I said just this to Tim Hopkins within living memory - on a London bus, no less - and he said something like: No. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather-boa at xxx.com Tue Feb 29 20:19:45 2000 From: feather-boa at xxx.com (feather boa) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:19:45 -0800 Subject: Sinister: village Message-ID: hello. i've been reading this stuff about a village, although not religiously, and i thought that maybe i could add a bit of naughtiness to the proceedings, since i think everyone might have a wrong image of me as some kind of sexual weirdo. so i'll run the brothel, except that what it will actually be is that there will be girls there but they will all be nice and wear long skirts or cords, and there will be boys too and they will wear the same things (because all the boys i know like wearing skirts), and what they will actually do is feed anyone who wants it good scotch broth. and that is why it will be called a brothel. so (like me) it will look and sound sexy, but it will actually be all nice and clean and wholesome. and everyone will have fringes and 70's haircuts. pip pip, fb X *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+