From honey at xxx.org Sat Jan 1 00:46:56 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (Honey) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:46:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: the world still turns Message-ID: It's 2000 in the UK and the world didn't stop (although it was touch and go for a bit). We probably don't need 1150 of these message but I'm allowed to send one - let me indulge myself :) Happy New Year you yummy things. Remember you *can* change the world, even if in little and slightly giggly ways: remember February 1999. cough cough :) Honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Sat Jan 1 04:48:12 2000 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 20:48:12 PST Subject: Sinister: NEW YEAR IN 2000!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <20000101044812.42860.qmail@hotmail.com> HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S 6.45AM HERE. CAN'T WRITE MORE. BYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!! LOVE U ALL!!!!!!!!!!!! BE GOOD AND HAVE FUN MAY B&S BE WITH U!!!!!!!!! LOVE ZOE ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Sat Jan 1 10:59:42 2000 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 05:59:42 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #1 Message-ID: <0.8ae71b2c.259f381e@aol.com> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Sat Jan 1 11:01:21 2000 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 06:01:21 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #1 Message-ID: <0.b042910.259f3881@aol.com> sorry about that last one... i believe my computer had a preemie... I heard a new box set of 3 of the B&S singles is coming.... Is this a US +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Sat Jan 1 11:02:39 2000 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 06:02:39 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #1 pt.3 Message-ID: <0.5420787c.259f38cf@aol.com> release only?? BTW... Happy New Year and Millenium everyone and Y2Kare? Pete +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dbgeraghty at xxx.com Sat Jan 1 14:19:32 2000 From: dbgeraghty at xxx.com (David Geraghty) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:19:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Like any of you *would* forget, but..... References: <19991231101304.14798.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> Message-ID: <002501bf5463$3aabdb20$ca926fd4@dbgeraghty> ...Sorry for this, but the content is highly B&S Apocolypse Tube, TONITE! 10PM Channel 4 ummm.....some maudlin wee wimps are going to be on. just so you don't forget, like, dbg. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Sat Jan 1 15:14:23 2000 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 15:14:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: Like any of you *would* forget, but..... Message-ID: <20000101151423.20080.qmail@web308.mail.yahoo.com> Merci for the reminder. Shame we have to endure Chris Moyles in order to see it. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From infrared at xxx.com Sat Jan 1 20:52:57 2000 From: infrared at xxx.com (infrared at xxx.com) Date: 1 Jan 2000 12:52:57 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Why Too Kay Message-ID: <20000101205257.2128.cpmta@c008.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From idleberry at xxx.com Sat Jan 1 22:11:49 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:11:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: oops Message-ID: <20000101221149.8234.qmail@web603.mail.yahoo.com> I forgot about that tube thing. Too busy sipping champagne and wondering what my back looked like in my new dress. oops. anyone know if its going to be repeated for those of us who have a problem remembering to watch TV? cheers IdleB __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Sun Jan 2 10:15:53 2000 From: aconover at xxx.net (aconover at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 05:15:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: curious corn Message-ID: <200001012213.RAA27878@s1.nassau.cv.net> well, we went to a party last night, but then found out we weren't invited, so all of us went back to mike's house and proceeded to get divinely drunk. not knowing the particular intensity of scotch, i became the sloppy drunk, flailing about all night, but at least i didn't strip like jay. i almost restrained myself from complaining about my romantic woes, though. however, an entire digested plate of eggplant parmesan ended up in the toilet, while i ended up with a face full of burst cappilaries. hope my parents don't notice... got my new lucksmiths record from www.insound.com ... check it out, it's a wonderful store, and since i live in the new york area all my orders get here within a day... they didn't ship the hefner before they got off work, though, so i'll have to wait a bit for that... not that i mind, because i'm still listening to the luckies... hm. - adam aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Sat Jan 1 22:15:44 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:15:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: happy easter Message-ID: <20000101221544.12718.qmail@web601.mail.yahoo.com> GO to CUBA! They're celbrating the millenium next year. two millenium parties in one decade?! ahhh! but can we handle the hangover twice? cheers idleberry (yet again) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Sat Jan 1 23:42:46 2000 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:42:46 EST Subject: Sinister: What an eventful night. Message-ID: <0.c10237e8.259feaf6@aol.com> Well, I would say something trite like this is my first e mail of the new millennium, but I won't. Happy new year sinister! Well, last night I had a good time. I got properly drunk for the first time, but no one tried to take advantage of me. I'm not sure if this is good, because I didn't get taken advantage of, or bad because no one wanted to take advantage of me. Oh and there were fireworks, and silly headbands saying "happy 2000", and I had the weirdest dress out of everybody. Oh and I got to be a first foot. Much to my annoyance, the first song I heard in the new millennium, was in fact, Westlife murdering Seasons in the Sun, because my friend happens to like that sort of thing. I was hoping for maybe Dog on Wheels, but she laughed and said no chance. I'm watching The Apocalypse Tube. B&S were on about 45 minutes ago, and they were really really good. except my gran phoned in the middle of it. Didn't StuartM look nice? I hope they play a second song. That's really only why I'm still watching it. I'm going to shut up and leave you all alone now. Love Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Jan 2 00:31:21 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 19:31:21 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Boob Tube Message-ID: <200001011931_MC2-9307-1CE@compuserve.com> Hi 2k, Nice to see that we're all still here. I can vouch from personal experience that Stuart David does *not* smell of wee, but I suspect that he may well smell of something else on occasion over the next few weeks as he works his way through his stockpile of baked beans. Apocalypse Tube: despite a lot of the between song crap being edited out, they still only found the time to broadcast one B&S song, the other (first?) take of The Loneliness Of The Middle Distance Runner, as preferred by the band themselves. Apparently another programme is to be shown next Friday evening at 6 p.m., so maybe we will get our opportunity to see & hear Beyond The Sunrise then. And now, over to our Guardian correspondent for the inside dope...............? Bye, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #1 Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 05:59:42 EST Size: 3244 URL: From dbgeraghty at xxx.com Sat Jan 1 14:19:32 2000 From: dbgeraghty at xxx.com (David Geraghty) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 14:19:32 +0000 Subject: DELIVERY FAILURE: Router: Unable to open mailbox file GBTC-ETL-NM01/ETL/ERICSSON mail.box: Remote system no longer responding References: <19991231101304.14798.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> Message-ID: <002501bf5463$3aabdb20$ca926fd4@dbgeraghty> Your message Subject: Sinister: Like any of you *would* forget, but..... was not delivered to: ETLRDHY at notes.ericsson.se because: Router: Unable to open mailbox file GBTC-ETL-NM01/ETL/ERICSSON mail.box: Remote system no longer responding -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "David Geraghty" Subject: Sinister: Like any of you *would* forget, but..... Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:19:32 -0000 Size: 3748 URL: From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Sat Jan 1 15:14:23 2000 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 15:14:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: DELIVERY FAILURE: Router: Unable to open mailbox file GBTC-ETL-NM01/ETL/ERICSSON mail.box: Remote system no longer responding Message-ID: <20000101151423.20080.qmail@web308.mail.yahoo.com> Your message Subject: Sinister: Re: Like any of you *would* forget, but..... was not delivered to: ETLRDHY at notes.ericsson.se because: Router: Unable to open mailbox file GBTC-ETL-NM01/ETL/ERICSSON mail.box: Remote system no longer responding -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?= Subject: Sinister: Re: Like any of you *would* forget, but..... Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 15:14:23 +0000 (GMT) Size: 3711 URL: From jordiet at xxx.com Sun Jan 2 18:54:06 2000 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: 2 Jan 2000 10:54:06 -0800 Subject: Sinister: B&S existed in 1989 Message-ID: <20000102185406.4466.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From MM_KULIK at xxx.EDU Sun Jan 2 17:19:05 2000 From: MM_KULIK at xxx.EDU (MM_KULIK at xxx.EDU) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 12:19:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #2 Message-ID: <01JK88NFHHUA8Y5AQW@ACAD.FANDM.EDU> Hello to you all! First of all, I have a favor to ask of any willing listee. I am currently in the States and will be back in Glasgow next Saturday, but that is not soon enough to catch the several B&S television appearances. If anyone did record the Tube and/or will be recording their appearance on Friday, I would be ever so appreciative if I could somehow receive a copy. There may be money in it for you, and possibly other rewards if something can be negotiatied. I will also love you forever. Isn't that reason enough? Hmmmm...it's Sunday now but I suppose I will briefly recant my New Year's experience, which won't take but a few lines. I was one of the paranoid millions (okay, maybe thousands) in the USA who decided it was best not be out on the roads that night, so I had dinner with my sister and then we saw a movie -- "The Talented Mr. Ripley." It stars the fabulous Matt Damon who I intend to seduce at the first opportunity, which will probably never arise. It was also one of the creepiest films I've ever had the good fortune? misfortune? to see. I don't enjoy brutal violence on-screen so that was a bit of a downer for me but also very necessary to the plot. Anyhow if you like sociopathic creepy thrillers then I suggest this film for your viewing pleasure. If you love Matt Damon, likewise. Then after the film we returned home, watched most of "A Hard Day's Night," which has become one of many videos we watch ceaselessly, and then turned on the regular television to watch Dick Clark in New York City and drank a bottle of champagne at 12. It was a nice evening -- not very out of the ordinary for us, though, except for the whole turn-of-the-century thing. Now that I've lost all interest among the readership, I supposed I will be going now to take my shower and write the essay I have to hand in next week on Polish Solidarity in 1980 and '81. Sexciting. Actually, the bagels and lox I had for breakfast were quite honestly very sexciting. Incidentally, anyone know of a good bagel shop in or near Glasgow? I might not survive another six months in Scotland without bagels. Goodbye, one and all, I love you dearly! Moira xoxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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From: infrared at xxx.com Subject: Sinister: Why Too Kay Date: 1 Jan 2000 12:52:57 -0800 Size: 4709 URL: From lleweth at xxx.com Sun Jan 2 22:07:52 2000 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 14:07:52 PST Subject: Sinister: The year is going, let him go Message-ID: <20000102220752.39987.qmail@hotmail.com> Ring out, wild bells to the wild sky, The flying cloud, the frosty light. The year is dying in the night; Ring out, wild bells, and let him die. The year is dying in the night; Ring out, wild bells, and let him die. Ahh, thanks for indulging me in some Alfred Tennyson. I thought it was rather fitting for this time and season. Though personally, my year ended more like the world in TS Eliot's The Hollow Men, "Not with a bang but a whimper." No wild parties or kisses for Laura Llew. In fact, I was even sleeping when the new year arrived. Boring me but happy me because I am now the proud owner of a new pair of narrow New Balances. Perfection in a shoe. I was able to usher the New Year in nicely by having Belle and Sebastian be the masterminds behind the music I listened to first this Millennium. It was quite nice really. I was wondering though. Does anyone else have a tendency to hook up the characters of their songs together? I just think that String Bean Jean and Lord Anthony would be great together. And the Boy with the Arab Strap would compliment Lazy Line Painter Jane most perfectly. Perhaps it's just me. I apologize if this has already been mentioned, but has anyone else heard the Looper song on the commercial for MyFamily.com. Oh yes, the David's are supporting family values AND health AND using the Internet (as long as it ain't "freaky") AND being Up A Tree - where you will inevitably loose your footing and plummet to the ground. But not before your leg catches on a nail, your skin shreds and you need 20 stitches. Which will still leave a scar shaped like an arrow on your right thigh even years later as a 22 year old. And the only real memory of you have of the incident is the red helium balloon that you had that you accidentally let go off and watched sadly as it floated off into the night sky when you go home. Not that I'm in anyway stuck in the past here. So, does anyone have any lofty New Year's resolutions, such as to quit biting your nails, lose weight, or to stop setting yourself on fire while exclaiming to your friends that you *are* going to get a spot on David Letterman this year. I've always been much better at coming up with resolutions for other people than actually thinking of changing myself. So far, I have that - 1. Belle and Sebastian resolves to come up with a new album by March (hey it's a leap year.. I even gave them one extra day to work in February. Talk about generosity here). 2. That all drivers on the road will let me in when I'm trying to get into a lane of traffic. AND that the others will remember that they do indeed have a turn signal. They can even agree to actually USE it once in a while. C. Stuart Murdoch shall fall madly in love with me.* 4. We shall have more classy boy photos on the body part page. Such as Jygsaw Dave's knees, Jim Bob Gilmer's ears, Rupert Everett's stomach (a long shot but hey so is Stu falling for me), and GEORGE DICKIE's ummm, erh, well, whatever he wants to show... But please show discretion O'Henry 5. That everyone on the sinister list will read at least 5 books from Laura Llew's Lovely Literary List of 99' this year. Just because the list is from last year, does not mean the recommendations aren't out of date. Don't you know that in book time that makes it a "Classic"? (Though I've noticed the list is severely lacking in recommendations for Stuart David's book and for The Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner. Is there a reason for this? I haven't read them yet and I was just wondering.) 6. The witty, intelligent, book adoring, dark haired, pixies and b&s loving lad who was suppose to be under the tree on Christmas Day with all of the Belle and Sebastian singles on CD will inform of exactly where he fell of of Santa's sleigh at so that I may properly go and rescue him. (I always have to do all the work in relationships). Unless, of course, he got distracted by the elves and then really just let me live the rest of my life in misery never knowing the truth. Really. jealous of the elves, Laura * There is no reason for this symbol. I'm just trying to appear cool as if you need to read footnotes to understand the content of my posts. "Meeting all of your Laura Llew before you even knew you had them" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:42:46 EST Size: 4338 URL: From idleberry at xxx.com Mon Jan 3 00:33:22 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:33:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: What actually happened on the Tube (the directors cut) Message-ID: <20000103003322.28816.qmail@web604.mail.yahoo.com> Okay, I actually managed to see the tube, after getting all confuddled and things and please don't ask, I was tired and I need a new calandar and goddammit if it was the ONE thing I REALLY wanted for Christmas and DIDn't get. This is what happened for those who missed it. Chris Moyles was outwitted by his pretty (vacant) assistant Donna Airhead (bet I'm the first to refer to her by that) and went crawling off with his tail between his legs and wimpered for her to stop tormenting him. Then Belle and Sebastian came on, with a whole new look. Isobel looked divine with her new asexual punk gothic look, scary hair! New Romantic does have a place at Jeepster afterall, maybe? then Stuart Murdoch did a cover version of Robbie Williams "Let Me Entertain you" before setting fire to Chris Geddes and sacking the rest of the band, filling the air with very rude words indeed. I think he called them incompitent. or incontinent. I couldn't quite make it out. And I didn't realise what eight people could do with a giant earthworm and what seemed to look like a rubber bin liner.... It was an exciting show indeed my friends, fuelled by petrol, over confidence, clashing egos, riots and insecticide and a whole new direction for a band who really you wouldn't ever have considered to be into Cafe Del Mar at all.... Still, I will stay loyal to B+S, and regardless of Isobels experimental sampled fanny farts which did crumple my nose a little, I will try and continue to be a fan. And Today? well today, I'm trying to create a website, but I have no creative inspiration AT ALL. and its so irritating, I think I'll go and paint my toe nails different colours. If anyone has any ideas (good ones shall be acknowledged when I get it online) please suggest away. Am I getting the hang of this sinister thing now? I dunno. Cherrypips! Idleberry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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From: David Moore Subject: Sinister: Boob Tube Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 19:31:21 -0500 Size: 4253 URL: From bfundak at xxx.org Mon Jan 3 14:00:19 2000 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 09:00:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: How I spent my new year's--A student essay. Message-ID: I would just like to start this message off by saying Laura Llew has lost it (or maybe never had it) and that I find her New Year's resolutions quite advantageous. I think the idea to succeeding at your resolutions is to make your goals attainable. As a result, I have resolved two things: 1. To take chances this year and actually live for once in my life. 2. To stop using Microsoft products when home computing. See? Attainable goals. Anyway, my New Year went something like this. Listened to Belle and Sebastian all the way on my drive from Cleveland, OH to Bowling Green, where my chums would be having a party. Ran into my friend Ben. Drank coffee with Ben. Got free soup at the coffee house. Went to my friend Keith's house to buy a video game off of him and ended up peeling apples and staying for a vegan potluck dinner. Went back to Ben's house. Ate a "mad" brownie. Went to party at Ginger and Ed's. Listened to loud bands and whigged out. Went to my brother's to ring in the new year (and in a very clever moment, some of the guests tripped a breaker and made the power go out--simulating a Y2K disaster. All I could sit and think to myself in the dark was "But I was so right. Nothing was going to happen!" Then the power came on again and I had to watch the incubus Carson Daly ring in the new year and then have No Doubt butcher the end of the world as we know it even though we know that's a big load of crap.) Anyway, shook off most of the brownie at my brother's, then popped back to Ginger and Ed's. Ended up sleeping at my friend Becky and Brandi's house and then went home the next day. Boring eh? My Belle and Sebastian resolution is not that the release a new album, but that they tour. Specifically tour the US. When told that they would not be touring last year, it was said, "the band wants to know would you rather have another album or a tour?" meaning that a new album was on the way. But it wasn't, so since you didn't give us the album, give us a tour. Then again that breaks my rule of attainable goals right? Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From micro_groove at xxx.com Mon Jan 3 15:54:18 2000 From: micro_groove at xxx.com (heather emes) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 10:54:18 EST Subject: Sinister: my new year's eve story Message-ID: <20000103155418.80272.qmail@hotmail.com> hello to everyone residing in sinister land. i hope all is well with each & every one of you. i just wanted to tell the tale of my new year's eve. the day started with me poking my head out from under a ton of blankets, anxiously watching the news for rising signs of mayhem. i stared at the tube for an hour before i headed out to work. i was preoccupied with impending doom all day, & for no reason at all. the thought never even crossed my mind before then, except in jest. i worked until 3:00 p.m. (well, if you consider playing "buffy's stake house" & talking to my friends on the phone working, then i was busting my hump) & had decided to go to the party i was invited to. i was leery about even leaving the house after dark, but i figured i'd be surrounded by good people & my ever-loyal security blanket, mr. alcohol. the party was jumpin' & the bass was pumpin'. i haven't had that much fun in a long time. for once, i did a lot of mingling & was kind of disappointed that the major reaction to the query, "1999 was a pretty good year for me, how 'bout you?", was, "IT SUCKED." but i refused to let my friends' lameness spoil my spirits, which i drank an awful lot of. i slinked around, with a bottle of pink champagne in one hand & in the other a noise-maker which i held like a cigarette, kissing people on the cheek & wishing them a happy new year. then the cutest thing ever happened at midnight. my ex-boyfriend (who 2 & 1/2 years ago completely obliterated my heart, twice, but has since been a good friend & the best disco date ever) asked me to kiss him. so i did. it was precious. after that we all danced to really bad music, but i had a good time by myself with a new toy. someone had brought along a black plastic hat with some cheesy new year's 2000 saying on it & so i grabbed it & proceeded to bust michael jackson moves with it, singing the wrong lyrics to "rock with you" & "billie jean". then my friend christopher stepped on it & broke it. from then on i told a few people i'd get their phone numbers before they left, repeatedly, & never did, played fussball badly, & somehow ended up a mummy wrapped in electrical tape. how i got upstairs like that i'll never know! almost everyone slept over, which is good, because we were all very dangerously intoxicated. all in all, it was a great start for the year 2000. how 'bout the rest of you? yours truly, heather e. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.borgia at xxx.ca Mon Jan 3 16:32:45 2000 From: alexander.borgia at xxx.ca (Alexander Borgia) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 11:32:45 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Media Release from The Major Message-ID: <3870CF2D.CAA8E68F@sympatico.ca> Sini-Gladiators in the Arena of Sinister.... Sadly I must report that The Major returned to base yesterday, completely exhausted from a week of staying up late and fragging everything that moved in the Quake Arena. I can assure you that the fate of the universe was in good hands. I will admit that I am a new junkie, and some how this has passed onto The Major who it seems is the perfect height to read all the tabloid headlines at check-out stands. As you can imagine he had many questions about the end of the world in various forms as a result of 3 headed space aliens living in Idaho and many returns of the Messiah most likely riding on a meteor. Thus he got to stay up and watch the switch over with the new year and see that everything would still be there. I managed to synchornize my computer clock to the correct second based upon the world's cesium clock so The Major was impressed to know that he would know the exact second it was 2000. Everything went off without a hitch and he got to see a bit of the fireworks from the window. There's a bunch of buildings blocking the view to Toronto so he wasn't able to see them. But of course The Major, being an officer, never really does well with the binoculars. Well, except for the one time when he exclaimed, "Cool, I can see a girl in her bedroom getting undressed." and the punk refused to tell me where. Having been assured that the world would stay put, he flaked out in bed at 12:30 after listening to some B&S, and for once slept in on Saturday. New Years day was spent trying to unplug the toilet and by saving the universe from reptiloid aliens bent on destruction. The Major has no New Year's resolutions to offer, an official statement may be released to the media at a later date. At 6:22 am, January 1, 2000, an earthquake registering 5.5 on the Richter Scale was experienced in the region. The Mjaor reports that there was no reason for concern and that everything is normal. A likely cause for the eathquake is under study and it could be the possible over use of the highly radioactive BFG gun or rocket launchers, however, the possibility has been ruled out that the cause was the excessive partying in Toronto. The Major has a keen interest in Natural Disaster, and studies these matters seriously before releasing statements. This is his second earthquake experience. (I on the other hand seem to flirt with death which he thinks is cool, and frightens me: 4 earthwquakes, 1 hurricane, 1 tornado, 2 near hits with lightening, 1 electrocution, 2 explosions) Command Office of Major Intruder, Quake III Arena Gladiator +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From katorina_c at xxx.com Mon Jan 3 17:25:21 2000 From: katorina_c at xxx.com (Katorina C.) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 12:25:21 EST Subject: Sinister: new year this new year that..... Message-ID: <20000103172521.10025.qmail@hotmail.com> >I spent my new year's eve midnight inside a taxi, with an angel. -kind of like in can't hardly wait. Although, he spent it on a bench with an angel. Kat > > > >new year greetings >tiago > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seyfert7 at xxx.com Mon Jan 3 19:43:35 2000 From: seyfert7 at xxx.com (deb Sss..) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 19:43:35 GMT Subject: Sinister: pardon my birth, i just slipped out... Message-ID: <20000103194335.80862.qmail@hotmail.com> well, we all made it through! i've now got to drink up the seven hundred and thirteen cases of bottled water my mum bought before they expire...ermm....can water expire? so, this was, hands down, the weirdest new years ever. in brief it involved a room full of strangers, a kareokee machine, a cardboard cut-out of C3PO and a two hour game of spin the bottle. and of course, alc-i-hol. more detailed information will be made available to those who care. after a three hour snooze on the lovely and sinister teri's couch, we were treated to an afternoon viewing of "The Last Night". it freaked me out a bit, but i didn't say anything. after all, who said the world would end at the stroke of midnight...? i'm knocking on every piece of wood i see, that's for sure! the new millenidumb had given me an itchy bottom. not in a rude way, but it's my bottom none the less. i think lifting my coat up every five minutes is scaring people away. well, there's always something that'll do that, isn't there? santi claus gave me more cds than i know what to do with. i've taken over every stereo in my house and have new tunes randomly playing in every room so no matter where i go i get a little listen and a tingle in my spine. i even took them with me on our holiday 'visits'. i asked to put nicky drake on at my godparents house and they asked me what he sounded like and i said he's a little bit folky. so they put him on and said, 'so it's just a guy and his guitar!?' and i didn't know how to reply cause i was wondering what the hell their definition of folk was.... i better go nap now. my first class of the morning involved a slide show of galaxies, and the unanimous class snoring overpowered the little prof man. what was he thinking, turning the lights off during the first class after the holiday? but before i float away, the sweetest hello and happy new year kiss goes out to all my lovely summer chums and T.O. 'ites. (and anyone else out there in honey land who wants one...) and a thanks to my *angel* for looking out over me. hope you've cleaned off all the angeldust from fridays hoedown. love and half notes debssss xxxxxxx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Tue Jan 4 02:01:57 2000 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 02:01:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Ian Ian Ian Ian. As Long as Ian is your name. Message-ID: <20000104020157.28036.qmail@web1704.mail.yahoo.com> Dear you lot, first post of the new millen-ian-m (milennium) and I must say I'm not impressed. Already I'm ripping off jokes from Fist of Fun. What's next! Harping on about bloody Ancient Greek mythology and writing epic poems about it just to torment English students in Y3K???! If you want to know what I'm on about read Keats - load of shagging bollocks is what I say. I don't mean to come across all ever-read-any-rabelais but English Classic Literature? Deritivative wanking more like. If it was Pop Music, top still WRITES IN CAPITALS hack 'Swells' would slag it all off and tell us to read some modern hip young spark. Like um...Tim Hopkins or Keith Watson or Trevor McDonalds memoirs. Yeah. Crikey thats very intellectual for me. You'd think I was a BLUDDY STUDENT. You know I've never been sent the poetry pisswanking bird? Thank god. Cos I'd only post some doggerel along the lines of this: On Missing the Tube, But Hopefully Someone Will Have Taped It, I hope, If It Was Anything That Special. I missed Da Toob. What a Boob! I'd need some Lube! For up the bum sex, If I was being Crude. (Starry, copyright me and stuff) Good eh? My new years resolution is to ride the number 85 bus to Putney one day. And another resolution is to go to Waterloo Bridge in Swinging Lunding, and get a bus going to PENGE. For all of you not in the know, Penge is the land of the undead, where fools fear to tread. I've never been there but I wish to understand it's immortal ways. Kinder like I imagine Buttfuck, Illinois to be like. But without the um... you know whatting. WOULD YOU LOT ALL SHUT UP ABOUT SEX? I almost miss the WHO. No actually I don't. Michele will you tell us about Classic Rock please? Love, Sarah xo ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Tue Jan 4 12:07:11 2000 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 12:07:11 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Back to reality... Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB699D80BA@park_ex> back to the here and now, yeah. Hmm. Work. Don't like this at all. Knew i should have skived off. Hello, my little babies, happy things to you all. Couple of things: Don't drink BOOZE, it is bad for you and makes you lie on the couch moaning for two days and watching The Sound of Music. I have now given up the BOOZE for four whole days, despite having been to the pub and everything (i may even last 'til tomorrow night). The Tube programme is still rubbish even with an hour of rubbish cut out. Will we ever get to see this bloody isobel song?? Strangly, the Tube thing had the picture in the Sunday Times telly page and it's a picture of Ms Campbell playing the cello. Can she do this and sing at the same time?? A nation holds its breath in antici..............pation. It's voting time again!! Go to http://www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/cgi-bin/vote.pl and get a band of your choice to sit in a (possibly very muddy) field for three and a half days. I imagine they'd tell Mr Eavis to stick his upside down head up his arse, even if they did win (probably still be finishing the album). The top five is currently Radiohead (518 votes), Marillion (285 votes) (I'm not making this up), Blur (187), The Cure (159) and Oasis (152). Belle and Sebastian currently have ELEVEN votes compared to Metallica's 13, and the Sisters of Mercy's 19 (I swear, I'm not making this up). Oh, and the book's called "the loneliness of the *long* distance runner", or at least it was when i was at school, maybe they've hacked an hour out of it to make it less rubbish ;) xoxo CarsmileSteve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Tue Jan 4 15:26:03 2000 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:26:03 -0500 Subject: Sinister: sugared teeth, gums that bleed.... Message-ID: <387140DE.8F0E8E4A@utoronto.ca> dear people who are all cut from the same cords as i am. (subtle tom lennox allusion) actually, i havn't worn cords for about a year or so, now i wear work-pants because the creases never go out, which i think is SUPER! they also come in set colours with matching shirts and ties so for instance: today i was all grey man! which was ULTRA! my cousin Miroslav is from the Ukraine and he pronounces ultra like OOL-TRAA! it is much more exciting when he says it. i went to montreal for newyears. here's something fun to do on new years: go to a party. drink booze. leave with a friend. go to bar, do not pay to get in. go behind the bar and get a mug, pour yourself a coffee and then go around to the other side of the bar and sit down on a stool. sober up a bit. play with the beer taps from your stool. leave (the place you go in and do this in should be lame). go to someplace that you have every reason to believe will be a good place to be but is infact terrible. get hit on. make pleasant, if irrelevant conversation with this person who is hitting on you. remark how there is no good soymilk in montreal and, really, how do they get by without a great deal of soy around. comment on the fact that salt ruins your loafers. make little sense. then leave. go home tired with your friend who is also crashing at the same house you are crashing at. also in montreal i hung out with the lovely and great EA Hotstepper and we went shoe shopping! you see EA needed some shoes for that evening, but her shoe concerns were superceded in my mind by my own lust for footwear. not only do i own more shoes than any other male of my accquaintance but i went absolutely nuts over ANOTHER pair of white loafers (which would bring me up to 3 pairs) and i almost did my consumer's duty...i have a thing for white shoes, who knows why? i wear them long after labour day...it could be residue left over from my Gene Kelly 'parapluits de cherbourg' phase of fun pastel clothing ...who knows. i've decided that shoes with laces on them are a dumb thing and only old-school converse hi-tops and boots are alowed to have them. everything else should be a loafer or at least velcro. i was also really sad that Curtis Mayfield died. i liked him better than james brown...that says alot really. what i always noticed about Curtis' solo stuff was that the bongos in the fast songs were always amazing and performed such a huge function...just imagine get on up without the bongos...it would sound generic and bad, the bongos make it wonderful. like the way the maracas make sonic youth sound good, when without them they just sound sort of redundant. i think BandS need more bongos..they;ve already had some in the Dog On Wheels version of 'state i am in' but they need more moRE MORE! -->MORE<-- oh..and i got an edward gorey calendar for christmas. yay. steven kado +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Jan 4 11:08:32 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:08:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Shameless self promotion (slight return) Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22B71F42@SERVER1> This is something I feel very strongly about, so humour me for a sec. Westlife couldn't possibly murder Seasons in the Sun, as it is positively the WORST song EVER in the WORLD and I will fight to the death anyone who disagrees. Well, perhaps not to the death if the Lighthouse Family is involved. Personally, I'm eagerly awaiting Stephen Gately out of Boyzone (for men *you'd* like to know better) doing "Bright Eyes". It's true, he is so. Anyway, I had a lovely new year, thank you, spent in a drizzly lay-by in Cornwall in fear of being eaten by gypsies. We had party poppers, though. And champagne, which I have decided I really don't like. In fact, I seem to be going off alcohol of all kinds at the moment, which is almost certainly due to the surfeit I've had over the last three weeks. Mmm, port. However, the booze pales into insignificance next to the barrowloads of FOOD I have eaten, every ounce of which is now providing me with my very own unremovable rubber ring. As a result, today is the first day of my diet, filthy things that they are. I probably shouldn't drink either. I do feel very determined, mind, as determined as I am to work hard and diligently and not waste my time sending meandering personal emails... Onto business. As you may be aware, the time for TIGERMILKING has arrived again, with the latest instalment taking place this Friday 7th January, Upstairs at the Garage (turn left and cross the road out of Highbury and Islington tube and there it is!). Naturally, we've had our band for the night pull out, as they're recording in Wales, which is only a short 14 hour round trip, lazy sods, but that just means there'll be even more time for fantastic choons and competitions and prizes and all that kerfuffle. So bring all your mates, even the ones who don't like B&S. Then feel guilty all night that they're not having a good time, have a row and leave at half past ten. Or don't! That'll do, then. Email me privately for further details of Friday night, or just cos you think I'm smashing. Mark xxx p.s. it's just occurred to me I have no idea which address to send this to. Hmm. p.p.s. can I add "The Miracle of Castel di Sangro" to Laura's lovely list? 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Tue Jan 4 17:11:01 2000 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 09:11:01 PST Subject: Sinister: thinking of a smart subject title to impress you all... Message-ID: <20000104171101.32340.qmail@hotmail.com> ...yeah,right... hmmm,sinister land wake up from the holiday narc!!!!!!!!!!!!! hello people!we're still rockin'.the list is still there,and so is the world.see,u unfaithful people?2000 my ass!and even if it was the end of the known world,how would you know you hysterical freaks? right.i have holidays until the 10th.then i have to go back to the uk(...).then i have holidays for 5 more weeks-long story,u don't care. right. now i'm in another city in greece,in another listee's house.the 2nd person from the list i meet.hope there will be more.she djd last night in a bar here and b&s filled several times our ears.mm it was grrrrreat-until i got so pissed,i had to spent almost 1h having close encounters with the toilet.marvelous(as my film proff would say).i got quite embarrassed-not that this was the first time,but...the only good thing is i didn't pay for the drinks(i think i might have to,though.) new year's eve came to an end for me around 9:30 am on the 1-1-2000.i went to have breakfast with a group of friends in a club in athens around 8am but we had to pay a good 6 quid to get in and ,well, we didn't want to.so after a long partying night i had to go to bed.sob.i so wanted that breakfast... oh,yeah,one last thing:THE NEW BECK THANG IS SOOOOOOOOOOO GREAT! "I WANT TO DEFY THE LOGICAL OF SEXXLAWS" SHAKE IT ALL THE WAY,PEOPLE!!! byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyye!!!!!!!!!! be careful of the aliens. zoe and the giant peach oops!what was that?...i...can't...com...te...heeeeeeeee.....eeeeelp! .................................................... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geoff at xxx.uk Wed Jan 5 12:17:31 2000 From: geoff at xxx.uk (geoff) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:17:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Pubs, insults and up-the-bum sex. Message-ID: Children, please! I have a couple of sinister-type pearls of immeasurable wisdom. Watching a video-only release arthouse lottery-funded avant garde short film, as I do on those long winter evenings, I heard this line of dialogue: "Resorting to child-like innocence is no substitute for despair" and I thought of you. And seeing as the list seems to be as preoccupied as ever with up-the-bum sex, another little thing I heard on radio four. The prostitute to the taxi driver: We both sell ourselves on the streets - the only difference is I never take anybody the wrong way. This made me very sad. Where is a lad to go if even the ladies of the night won't try it? I suppose there's always rent boys, but I can't help thinking it's just not the same, really. A really rather adorable glittery scott called Harry seemed rather fond of suggesting I had a penchant for those fluffy, flocking creatures, sheep. He even went as far as to suggest that my preference was for the male of the species - the horns allowing me greater purchase. Why I didn't hotly deny it and accuse him of unnatural relations with italian water-spaniels, I shall never know. Nonsense, nonsense, nonsense. I shall bid you adieu. geoff x PS: I am compiling a guide to London pubs which will be published on-line. Any suggestions for pleasant or unusual pubs I should be including would be welcome. Premonition +44 (0) 20 8552 2212 [http://www.premonition.co.uk/] Graphic Design Photography Website Design Digital Imaging Illustration Copywriting Print Sourcing Corporate ID Macintosh Technical Support 86 High Street South London E6 3RL Geoff Mobile 07957 522 370 Richard Mobile 07930 557 997 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Wed Jan 5 15:08:26 2000 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 15:08:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Is it getting heavy? Message-ID: <38735E6A.C3284D01@cs.strath.ac.uk> Yeah, it's bluddy (Jen, you're right) pissing it down. Clouds are light, but you still can't lift them. A happy new year to you all. So, down to list abuse business. Unfortunately for some, I'm coming down to dear old London town for this here Tigermilking thing, so as not to make Mark cry. What it is though, you see, is that I'll be arriving at 7 in the blinkin morning on Friday with a whole day to kill (and hopefully some neurons) before the event actually, as it were, happens. So what I would very much like though probably won't get are people who have Friday free and would perhaps like to have lunch/dinner/drink lots/generally amble, or all of the above. If you'd like to do this (though God only knows why you would) please (PLEASE) phone me today or tomorrow on 0141 956 6132 or from Friday on 07989 086204. If, as I expect, I receive no calls then I'll be wandering around trying to find an Our Price to spend my Christmas voucher in. Excitement, he wrote. Anyway, Hogmanay was quite good as they go, although I realised that I don't want to be a girl after kissing a man with too much facial hair and getting a sore face. I also met a bonkers old Irish woman who was a teacher and upon being asked what she taught replied "fucking children". Which is a good answer, although I feel obliged to worry ever so slightly about the double meaning inferred therein. My, that Sinister switch was something wasn't it, the way Honey just magicked it away from somewhere to somewhere else in the blink of an eye, without us even knowing. A bit like in Star Trek, where they transport people on to the Holodeck then put them somewhere else, and they're so stupid they don't even know that the brilliant technology of the 23rd century has turned them over and no mistake, chuck. As Debbie McGee has probably never said while under the duvet, "That's magic!". For some reason yesterday I ended up playing Mogwai's 'Burn Girl Prom Queen' to my 80 year old Grandpa, I think because it's got a brass band in it. His review was surprisingly good, he said it was "quite interesting, kind of hypnotic". Mind you, he's already cool, for previously mentioned reasons. Must dash and make some cash. Bye. Alasdair xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Wed Jan 5 14:32:32 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 06:32:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Pubs, insults and up-the-bum sex. Message-ID: <20000105143232.26008.qmail@web605.mail.yahoo.com> my dad's name is geoff. cheers, idleberry --- geoff wrote: > Children, please! > > I have a couple of sinister-type pearls of > immeasurable wisdom. > Watching a video-only release arthouse > lottery-funded avant garde > short film, as I do on those long winter evenings, I > heard this line > of dialogue: > > "Resorting to child-like innocence is no substitute > for despair" > > and I thought of you. > > And seeing as the list seems to be as preoccupied as > ever with > up-the-bum sex, another little thing I heard on > radio four. The > prostitute to the taxi driver: We both sell > ourselves on the streets > - the only difference is I never take anybody the > wrong way. > > This made me very sad. Where is a lad to go if even > the ladies of the > night won't try it? I suppose there's always rent > boys, but I can't > help thinking it's just not the same, really. A > really rather > adorable glittery scott called Harry seemed rather > fond of suggesting > I had a penchant for those fluffy, flocking > creatures, sheep. He even > went as far as to suggest that my preference was for > the male of the > species - the horns allowing me greater purchase. > > Why I didn't hotly deny it and accuse him of > unnatural relations with > italian water-spaniels, I shall never know. > > Nonsense, nonsense, nonsense. I shall bid you adieu. > > geoff x > > PS: I am compiling a guide to London pubs which will > be published > on-line. Any suggestions for pleasant or unusual > pubs I should be > including would be welcome. > > Premonition +44 (0) 20 8552 2212 > > [http://www.premonition.co.uk/] > > Graphic Design Photography > Website Design Digital Imaging > Illustration Copywriting > Print Sourcing Corporate ID > > Macintosh Technical Support > > 86 High Street South > London E6 3RL > > Geoff Mobile 07957 522 370 > Richard Mobile 07930 557 997 > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister > mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe > sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: > http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads > and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & > sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart > david, looper +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ===== visit the idle site:www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/5117 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Wed Jan 5 19:46:56 2000 From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 11:46:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: new year's vultures 'round mi'night Message-ID: <20000105194656.22123.qmail@web122.yahoomail.com> hello soo-pear kids, new Beck album, I echo the yaaaay of zoe, for this album was kind of a new year's theme. "hot milk, tweak my nipple, champagne and ripple." etc, etc shouted across the Vancouver scene, whispered in unsuspecting stranger's ears, told to hotel security guards, you know, it was all about that and flashing lights and blurred vision and losing things in all the many pockets I had (pockets are good, but too many pockets=confusion&much groping). Maybe we were obnoxious all night, maybe we were soo-pear ool-traa cool. mm. fun though. really interesting to feel the glee in the room when the clock struck 12:00 12:00 12:00. I never made a big deal out of millenial fever, didn't fill my bathtub just in case before leaving the house, maybe had a long-forgotten can of chili around, but it would have been cat food for me had the world ended. Which we all knew it wouldn't. But anyway, despite all this and maybe it was all the strangers around me at a crashed party, I felt at midnight a kind of child-like wonder and excitement, like everyone in the room went suddenly twee. Fleeting, of course, but a sweet moment absent of cynicism. I've seen a lot of movies lately, what with the rain and holidays, but won't bore you lot with all that. Okay, I will (scroll on scroll on). Just saw "Magnolia" last night. Ooh, so good. I saw the late show and wasn't home until 2 a.m. (it's a 3+ hr movie) and my thoughts were running so fast I couldn't fall asleep for a while. Which is good, but not so good when you have to work at 9 a.m... It's all interconnections and convergence and the meaning of life really. And more. Very emotional. Lots of good music too (directed/written by Paul Thomas Anderson, the same person who did Boogie Nights.) Also: "Six Ways to Sunday" on video - It's like a smallish-town-Ohio, Jewish "Goodfellas" with an Oedipal twist. It's good stuff, really. Also saw a double-bill of "Bringing Out the Dead" and "Taxi Driver" - oh yeah. Bringing out the dead made barely a blip when it came out - I don't know why b/c it's damn good. And Nicholas Cage even has a few Raising Arizona moments (the crazy ones, but his hair isn't quite as good as it was back then.) And Taxi Driver, well, that just goes w/o saying. See it on the big screen, see it. Rented a Canadian film called "Cube", which was strange and nightmarish, about people who wake up to find themselves trapped in this cube connected to other cubes, some booby trapped, some not, and they try to find their way out, and, human nature being what it is, trouble ensues... Yeah, so btwn all these movies (oh, there are more) and this weird chest/head cold i've had for over a week and the whole millenium thing, reality is all skewed as usual, but the different thing is that it's okay really. took me a while to get to this, but really, i'm not going to worry about the whole what's reality what's not thing anymore. I mean, I always did pay my bills late; now I have a better excuse. stoppingnow. velcro shoes and the coolsounds they make: i like my velcro shoes and the coolsounds they make. Love Robyn ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From simon.allstar at xxx.net Thu Jan 6 03:56:57 2000 From: simon.allstar at xxx.net (Simon Bell) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:56:57 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Baptiste in the Garage. Message-ID: <000301bf57fb$0c64be80$7582bc3e@oemcomputer> I believe that some people may have heard of a band called Baptiste. They rock the world, or parts of it anyway. They are the first signing to the shiny new... SUPER-ANALOGUE RECORDINGS. They are playing Upstairs at the GArage (London) Thursday 13th January, and people who wear their badges upside down are particularly welcome, because they are sweet. Does anyone else have a problem that leads them to always type the letter 'A' as a capital when it follows another capital. If so perhaps this could bring us closer together. If you would like a cheap discount flyer for this event please email privately. It's like a secret, you know. The millennium bug made the batteries run out in my torch and Belle & Sebastian to be on a fuzzy Channel 4. I must say I like the bodyparts page, its much better than those sweets of the same name. Except for the chest. Sorry. Love Simon Allstar. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sadandsentimental at xxx.com Wed Jan 5 22:55:16 2000 From: sadandsentimental at xxx.com (Curtis Heath) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 16:55:16 -0600 Subject: Sinister: 4 hardcore Velvet Underground fans Message-ID: I too bought the new Beck... and it's damn good, but... did any one notice that "Beautiful Way" is the Velvet Underground's "Countess From Hong Kong" with different lyrics? It's sampled straight from the Velvets... but the liner notes state "guitar, drums, bass, and harmonica by Beck Hansen." Is anything sacred? Beck "Puffy" Hansen's a loser. So why don't we kill him? LYCOShop is now open. On your mark, get set, SHOP!!! http://shop.lycos.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Wed Jan 5 23:13:53 2000 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 15:13:53 PST Subject: Sinister: she said she's an angel.... that's not a woman at all Message-ID: <20000105231353.40447.qmail@hotmail.com> And I thought I was the only person in the known universe who liked "Can't Hardly Wait." I watched it in a theater on a military base. I wasn't thinking, so at the start of the movie, I saw Whitney Houston come on screen and start her version of the "Star Spangled Banner". I thought it was a promo for something, so I just slumped lower in my seat. Then about thirty seconds in, I looked around and noticed that the whole theater was standing at attention, hands on hearts.... and glaring at me like I was Sacco and Guevara. Now, I couldn't just get up in the middle, and you know how Whitney's version is.... fucking like a full 7 minutes and 42 seconds of melisma and quote-unfuckingquote soul. Not a highlight. I'm surprised they didn't string up my pinko ass during the intermission. I heard today my brother got laid on New Year's Eve. I did not. This is in direct contrast to last century, when I had all the sex and my brother did not. I hope this is not the start of a nasty trend. Instead, I walked from one end of London to the other. I couldn't find my friends, so I was all alone. Single men in glamourous fur coats were apparently in short supply, as I got kissed by more girls than in the whole rest of my life combined. And because I was all alone, I played an angel game, too. I made like I was the angel of death, stalking the streets of London, and that every girl I kissed would die in the next twenty four hours. Eventually I started kissing some guys, too, just to even it up a bit. I'm back in Washington now. Siiigh. Hello to all the kind people we met in the Poetry Cafe. For once I got to be the good cop. Hope I wasn't too speeded up by the eight cups of coffee I drank before getting up to introduce myself. Love you all. Happy New Year. -Eran ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jude at xxx.uk Thu Jan 6 00:12:09 2000 From: jude at xxx.uk (Tom Lennox) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 00:12:09 -0000 Subject: Sinister: My gift to you - no catches - so you can bask in it's majesty Message-ID: Just sitting back here in my old childhood room relaxing to John Peel (Visions Of Johanna is sounding very contemporary indeed) but really I can't say I have anything to relax from as I've been sitting here all day - give or take the odd 20 minutes of pacing around or chewing on bits of food - and all yesterday and the 2 days before that sat here too. Which is kind of depressing. So I could write my essay, but it was more amusing to write fantasy deaths for all my friends so I did that instead and besides they had it coming dumping me here alone whilst they all skipped back to university early. I should keep a diary or soemthing cause then you wouldn't have to indure all my gripes and woes. But I don't. And now playing, Nick Drake - very nice I bet alot of you enjoyed this choice... so obvious aren't you, good ol' wholesome Peel knows just how to press all your buttons. And now I'm the master in the art of allusion thanks to Steve Kado, which freaked me cause it made me realise that you can just write something throwaway and somebody else will keep that bit in their mind when it's long gone out of your mind. But I was REALLY freaked out cause I was wearing cords at the time and the chances of that in my wardrobe must be minimal if not less so , so from now on always write stuff like it flows out of your mouth, like reams of vomit and if you stop to think what you're gonna say next then you're probably not listening to what I'm saying. You can check back on your mails afterwards yeah sure and thank the Nesmith family for the gift of Tippex. This paragraph may be pondered in your own times. Bored. Bored. So bored. "Bored people are boring" says my Gran, the alive one naturally and maybe she's right, but she bores me and she should stick to the racist ad-libs like my grandad cause at least there's always the possiblity that if the wrong person hears the old man turning red over "goddam niggers and wops" they might just smack him in public and I get to laugh at the fact that someone has finally got him back for all these years of bigotry I've had to endure. Oh my pain. La-la. I know that grandparents sentance was all really horrible in so many ways but sometimes I get like this when I don't get enough oxygen from the pure source of the air I breath. Happy lovely thoughts. Back to being happy. Anybody got any cool ideas for things I could do with myself? Arson? Petty-theft? Wantant vandilism and destruction? Or perhaps I could just cruise the school gates? Tigermilk? Well maybe some other day. Mark your sealed down envelopes with: `Kix for Tom` and wing them this way. Frustration seathes thru my brittle bones but I wish you nothing but love dear listees Tom +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittenmouse at xxx.com Thu Jan 6 00:36:01 2000 From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (kitten mouse) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 16:36:01 PST Subject: Sinister: ugh. january dull. can only talk like cave person. Message-ID: <20000106003601.44133.qmail@hotmail.com> hi kids, hope everyone had a super new year. today was the first day i read my little sinister digest email since before xmas. just didn't have the energy to read all those emails. didn't even get out of the house for new years, just watched it all on tv. ugh. start up with my radio shew next week again. hopefully we'll be on the web soon, so i can embarass myself with my dull, repetitive taste in music and horrible meandering dj style in front of a whole new, international audience on the internet. promise me at least of few of you will listen in sometimes, eh? it'll be really inconvenient timing for those in england and etc (9 pm Pacific Time works out to be something like 5 am in the UK and France, I think). but maybe being on the web will make it a better show, because then people can email me with their requests and i'll be forced to learn about new more obscure but nice music that i hadn't heard before. like kahimi karie or something. she's weird. but interesting. anyway, gotta go. running down to reading frenzy to get my horrible unsold (most likely) drypoint etchings i had there during the december cheap art bazaar. good luck in the new school semester, to all you kooky students, btw. maybe i'll see you on jeepster chat sometime. i go there when i get bored of tv. sincerely, andrea kittenmouse radio (mondays 9.00-10.00 pm PST) kpsu 1450 am portland, oregon kittenmouse at hotmail.com www.kpsu.org can't look at the sky without looking right thru it ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From memolabels at xxx.dk Thu Jan 6 02:00:20 2000 From: memolabels at xxx.dk (John Hyllegaard) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 03:00:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Greetings from Denmark Message-ID: <007301bf57e9$d0d3c840$97a1f9c3@john.stofanet.dk> Yes... I'm the new member, coming from this little funny country in the heart of Scandinavia. How I spent my new year's eve, night and morning I've neartly forgot, but I remember a lot of music (sadly not B&S), loads of light and this wonderful homemade icecream around midnight. Came home 9 am in a taxi, and sadly to say... not with an angel!! I hope the new millenium will bring more focus on B&S in Denmark...the critics have no doubt about the quality, but when you're from a country where Aqua is top of the pops... what can you expect? I got the Tube show recorded by a friend in England and I reciewed it just before Christmas... I couldn't find out if it was the "TV-advertising show of the year" or a music programme... Well; The new song was really OK, and I'm looking forward to the day when my B&S collection climbs up to eight. Post-new year greetings John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Thu Jan 6 04:19:18 2000 From: aconover at xxx.net (aconover at xxx.net) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 23:19:18 -0500 Subject: Sinister: rok lok! ROK LOK! Message-ID: <200001060417.XAA22830@s1.nassau.cv.net> the rok lok is a local signal that us in the music scene give each other... it's like, "yeah, we're a hard loud band and you're our friend and let's YELL!" i'm not so hard, but my band is, and when i hang around with them too long i start to feel mean and just want to curse and drink, which i usually do. my new hefner record got here today. darren is an odd fellow. i hope i get used to him, because it seems like quality stuff. but what exactly did stuart m. do on this record? by the way, i mentioned this before, but no one responded: lizzie claims that the study at stow shirt is not meant to be read as an imperative, as in "study at stow or i'll break 'yer knuckles", but is simply reporting that there was a study done, like "we conducted a study on belle and sebsatian, and found that they were actually hard rockers instead of twee." i disagree. will someone help? - adam aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From messentw at xxx.uk Thu Jan 6 12:40:06 2000 From: messentw at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?William=20Messent?=) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:40:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Willennium Greetings Message-ID: <20000106124006.19744.qmail@web306.mail.yahoo.com> Happy new year everybody. How's tricks? Well I had a good time over the holiday really. Catching up with people, opening presents and that. Oh, and I have become clinically addicted to the game of backgammon. Not very rock'n'roll, but...I like it. What I don't like is that godawful version of the Rolling Stones song that those charity people released. Urgh. I'm always glad when the season is over mind you, not least because it means that all of the part-timers will get out of the bloody pub and leave the rest of us to it. It's a good job that I am a reasonably tolerant man and am willing to surrender my seat in the corner for a fortnight per year. > The top fiveis >currently Radiohead (518 votes), Marillion (285 >votes) (I'm not makingthis >up), Blur (187), The Cure (159) and Oasis (152). Hmm. I can't help but think that a certain mailing list may have been abusing the internet voting facility. Marillion fans, eh? *tch* Honestly, if you really must subvert 'the system', at least have a bit of fucking originality. I saw 'The Tube' on normal telly the other night. I thought it was bollocks, apart from our boys and girls and Macca's always good for a laugh I suppose, bless him. Chris Moyles is unpardonably oafish and that 'A-Z of Dance' was simply Not Funny At All. He said 'E'! Hahaha! I loved that song that B&S played though, I'd never heard it before. Lovely. Now we've got digital telly round at ours so I can watch MTV Base and M2 all day, excellent. I watched 'US Marshalls' with Tommy Lee Jones the other day. I mentioned this to my work colleague Ann this morning, who informed me that Tommy Lee Jones is married to Pamela Stephenson. Bloody Hell, that's news to me. Billy Connelly won't be too happy. Anyway kids, I'm off. Massive love to the whole lot of ya, William x ===== Visit The Remote Viewer homepage http://www.members.tripod.com/remoteviewer/ ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Thu Jan 6 15:52:28 2000 From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE HENRY DICKIE) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 15:52:28 GMT Subject: Sinister: I WILL NEVER BOX AGAIN - I'VE HAD MY BOXING DAY Message-ID: <20000106155228.27511.qmail@hotmail.com> YOU THINK TOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH MMMMMMMMMMM I BET YOUR THINKING DO I?????????? MAYBE I DO???? MAYBE I DON'T???????? DO I CARE??????? WHY WAS I BORN??????? MMMMMMM YER I'M BACK TO SMOKE CRACK WITH ALL WHO WILL AND WON'T MMMMMMMMM I'M TRYING TO BE HARD AND GANGSTER STYLE NOT SURE WHY MMMMMMM NEW YEARS EVE THE Y2K BUG WAS INSIDE ME ALL MY BITS CRASHED AND I FOUND MYSELF IN 1900 I WALKED AROUND WITH A SANDWICH BOARD WHICH READ ISOBEL SAYS HELLO OK THAT DID NOT HAPPENED MMMMMMM THE REALITY IS A LOT MORE SINISTER I TRIED TO KISS A FEW POLICE GIRLS AND I NEARLY GOT ARRESTED I DON'T LIKE THE POLICE BUT THAT NIGHT THEY SEEMED ALMOST HUMAN IT WAS VERY TOUCHING (IF ONLY) I GOT CARRIED BACK TO MY FRIENDS HOUSE WHILST I WAS SHOUTING *********LEAVE ME IN THE GHETTO ELVIS WILL SAVE ME********* MMMMMMMMM I AM A MISERY I CAN'T HELP THINKING ABOUT CREAM JUMPERS MMMMMMMMM WE ALL CAN'T LIVE IN A COTTAGE AND FEED THE SWANS GRASS AND TREES MMMMMMM STRANGE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT *****UNDERNEATH EVERY PERSON THERE IS A GOTH TRYING NOT TO GET OUT********* LOVE AND 2000 YEARS ETC A. FOREST FOOL ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From micro_groove at xxx.com Thu Jan 6 16:48:44 2000 From: micro_groove at xxx.com (heather emes) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 11:48:44 EST Subject: Sinister: i heard that the best part of waking up is folger's in your cup - is that true? Message-ID: <20000106164844.75469.qmail@hotmail.com> hello darlings. happy un-birthday to all of you & happy birthday to me! i am officially 22 years old today, even though my birth certificate is dated january 6, 1977. my mom says the doctor was very tired so he wrote down the wrong year, but i say that doctor owes me a year's worth of drinks. my day started with listening to holiday's "ready, set, go" & cuddling with my cute little fuzzy grey kitty. i got all fabulous-looking & left for work, late - as usual. i raced a ford contour & cut off a bus in my tiny car & i made it in at 8:02! not bad, i must say. so here i sit, still sleepy, waiting till work is over so i can go out w/ my friends & drink & play shuffleboard. i'm curious as to what you all do on your birthdays. if i had money to spare i'd take a vacation day & spend it doing princess-like things. i'd go to a day spa & shop for presents all for me. then i'd have a party with all of my friends & i'd wear a tiara. we'd all sit in a hot tub & drink champagne & eat candy & smoke cigars. then we'd play twister & eat ice cream in bed while watching "pretty in pink". then we'd go to a disco club. we'd probably get sick afterwards & then i'd have to look for new friends. it's a good thing i'm poor. anyway, i wish everyone a wonderful day & little fuzzy grey kitties of your own. -heather e. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From funkyseb at xxx.com Thu Jan 6 17:25:31 2000 From: funkyseb at xxx.com (funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 00 17:25:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: P!o!P!P!ING A!L!L! O!V!E!R! T!H!E! WU!R!L!D! Message-ID: Hey there fellow (un)P!O!P!(ular) kids! Wha' fettle bonny lads? Canny, I hope. I feel like a big red shiny bus. Or an exciting breeze. EVERYTHING IS VERY SHIVERRRRY! AND GREAT!! That was all I was going to say. Hope everyone else is feeling glittery too. subtextual seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jcmoya at xxx.net Thu Jan 6 17:26:20 2000 From: jcmoya at xxx.net (Juan Moya) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 12:26:20 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Kissing Glue... Message-ID: <3874D03C.B4ADFD4@bellsouth.net> So, I met this girl from Canada. She was visiting her mom for a three week period that ended yesterday. She became a regular at the bookstore and I told her that I'd be happy to show her around town. For three weeks I tried to tell her about this show or that, but it wasn't until Monday that we got it together and went out for a while. Four hours of driving around Miami, stopping at this bar and that, consuming this and that. Talking about politics, religion and sex. Mentioning my girlfriend once in a while just to help me keep things in perspective. We were walking along the beach, the breeze blowing in from the ocean. The both of us in short sleeves. She said "Toronto is cold." I told her that I was well aware of this, even though I had never really seen snow. I said, "Miami is always humid." She's gone now and she doesn't even have a computer. We'll have to keep in touch the old fashioned way. Am I wicked? My thoughts were unpure... NME reports about a special packaging box set thingy of three of the ep's. It's great for those out there who don't have them yet, but for those of us who do, it's just another temptation to spend money that I for one don't really have. Well, I'm supposed to be writing an article for a magazine about the local music scene here and instead I'm telling all one thousand and something of you about my love life. By the way, is there anyone out there who owns an Ibanez Talman? I just bought one and it feels and sounds great. I'm looking for any feedback on them that I can get. Thanks. all right then, back to work. Until the next wave crashes against the shore, J.C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Thu Jan 6 17:57:30 2000 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 09:57:30 PST Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20000106175730.26822.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi everyone! I had the most beautiful new years. I thought it would be one of the most boring and uneventful days... I was going to sit at home and read a book and be tired, because I'm always tired.... I was blue for the days before, because i thought i'd be stuck alone. I kept thinking, however, that the day hasn't arrived, and maybe something wonderful would happen. I ended up watching the unveiling of one of the most elaborately designed clocks in the world strike 2000.... The clock is a mechanical, binary computer designed to run for 10,000 years. the difference between time according to the planets, and absolute time had been adjusted for. leap years have been taken into the picture... after 10,000 years, it stops, and someone has to "wind" it up again. It's meant to foster the idea of human longevity, and the responsibility that goes with it, to break through our mental barrier of merely one millenium being beyond our human understanding. It looks straight out of 2001, mysterious, beautiful, ordered. It rings once a century, and chimes at every millenium. This year it chimed twice. How many people would ever see such a clock ring in a millenium. That clock was just a prototype. the finished product will be set in the desert. and a duplicate will be sent to the british museum of natural science. such a beautiful thing. science and pure ideals, rolled into one structure, looking at me with the abstract beauty of a math equation. and all shiny too. Cynthia ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Thu Jan 6 20:44:39 2000 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 12:44:39 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Bowlie? Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000106124439.00aded20@shell12.ba.best.com> heya folkses, i've been away for a good long time now, so i don't know if this has been covered in wonderful detail... what's the story on the next bowlie? will there be one? if i recall correctly, the last one went south. anyway, if this has been covered, just email me privately and kick my arse if necessary. i would like the details though if they're out there. chris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From guile at xxx.br Fri Jan 7 02:07:16 2000 From: guile at xxx.br (Guilherme Barrella) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 00:07:16 -0200 Subject: Sinister: B&S chords and tabs Message-ID: <38754A53.F5DAC37F@telnet.com.br> hello, So-called musicians will love that... http://www.britpoptabs.com/ gui yep, i'm still alive +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.borgia at xxx.ca Fri Jan 7 02:59:57 2000 From: alexander.borgia at xxx.ca (Alexander Borgia) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 21:59:57 -0500 Subject: Sinister: A woman of some two and twenty summers, formed in the most voluptuous mould.... Message-ID: <387556AD.DF7F0B68@sympatico.ca> Good Evening Sini-ewes and Sini-Rams.... I am pleased to hear from Miss Honey that the population of Scotland has increased by two as a result of the worldwide efforts of the Sini-Bear Adoption Agency. So far we have been able to arrange the adoption of 12 homeless bears. For those who may condemn postal service, I have to admit that for the price I pay, it definitely is the best value and they give me great service. I tend to use them quite frequently and parcels always arrive within 3 days in Canada, 7 in the US and 14 anywhere else. All for under 10 dollars. I am really dumbfounded why these people who give me such great service have a propensity for shooting each other. I've been reading some of the last mails and reading how so many people are starting the new year off dragging their asses, either from burn out or from the nasty cold/flu which seems to have gripped the entire world. I on the other hand seem to have hit the ground running. My new slogan at work is "shove it up your ass" (dragging the flat a along for a bit when you say it) So far I have sent off a scathing e-mail every day this week to someone or another. Today I got a reply from one of my muckety-muck pen pal who wants to meet with me to discuss my observations and opinions. I told my boss that if this person wants to have an open and honest discussion that I would look forward to it, if on the other hand they were going to try and "straighten me out" then it would be a messy situation and I would win. Here's a hint for you people who will be entering the work force. If you work for a large company, find, read and follow all of their procedural rules to the letter. That way you can stir up shit and they have no reason to can you, or if they do want to then they have to buy you out. For some reason this week I have no tolerance for apathy in work stuff. I think I may have been listening to Le Pastie de la Bourgoisie a little too much lately. Back on the postal thing again...I sent The Major a parcel today. Kids love getting parcels or any type of mail....don't you remember?.....I managed to find him some Godzirra action figures (they're not bloody dolls, okay? They're action figures!) So I found him King Gdhorra (sp?) and Mecha Godirra. He is really excited about this. BTW: I will be scanning the movie stills that he got for Christmas last year from a friend of mine in Texas. I'll post em' on my site for those who may be interested. (the pics are 8x10 photos) For those who had mentioned their lack of amourous attention during the holiday season and that has caused them concern. I can assure you that you needn't worry until you find yourself in a situation where you are watching Toy Story and you start looking at the mom and thinking that she's kinda hot in those tight pants and you notice that there is no dad around......and it takes you a while to remember that you are watching a computer animation. (for the members of alternate preferences, please substitute those hunks from Beast Wars or something similar) Well, lucky for those who may have read this far, I don't feel like writing anymore. Besides, I have to save my brain for tomorrow and who I might feel like pissing off. Alexander +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jcmoya at xxx.net Fri Jan 7 05:56:56 2000 From: jcmoya at xxx.net (Juan Moya) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 00:56:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: completely and utterly self serving, unless any of you live in s. florida Message-ID: <38758027.2105BD60@bellsouth.net> Hello there, I'm looking for people to make music with. Any and all instrumentalists/singers/songwriters are welcome to reply privately. i'm getting desperate here. thanks, j.c. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Fri Jan 7 07:08:29 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 02:08:29 EST Subject: Sinister: removes her sinister diapers Message-ID: Hello...none of you know me...yet..but i just wanted to say hullo..introduce myself or some thing like that...I live in the states..oklahoma to be exact...yes well this posty isn't too exciting...i just hate being a lurker...and I wanted to say hi (i've said that three times now) ok,um yeah...i'm new to Belle and Sebastian a wonderful friend introduced me to their music last year this time, and since my passion has grown...I suppose that is all that matters or doesn't matter... ciao bella iris I am drunk with gravity +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Fri Jan 7 14:04:08 2000 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:04:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: He had the flu at the age of 24 Message-ID: <20000107140408.2660.qmail@web303.mail.yahoo.com> Caught Apocalypse Tube whilst recovering from Christmas lurgee. Funny how any headache can be increased ten fold by the application of Chris Moyles. But nice performance when it eventually arrived. I sat up for as long as I could manage to see if they returned. Instead I found my ears boxed senseless by Robbie 'bow before my cheeky grin' Williams. Finally saw 'Dogma' the other week. Enjoyed it but it's the first Kevin Smith film I wouldn't recommend to people who've not seen other Kevin Smith films. Easy on the in-jokes there, boy. Jay & Silent Bob hilarious as ever. Helpful hint from recent life experience: Never leave your mobile phone on a train. Expecially when it's not yours. That is all... Laters. Rob. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From unloveable_ at xxx.com Fri Jan 7 17:59:20 2000 From: unloveable_ at xxx.com (angela i hate my last name) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 11:59:20 CST Subject: Sinister: He had the flu at the age of 24 Message-ID: <20000107175920.39908.qmail@hotmail.com> i got the flu for my christmass present, it lasted till just about yesterday. the gift that keeps on giving , wouldnt you say? so ummmmmm i got new flanle sheets for christmass too! i think they went perfectly with my illness....the pale gray matched perfectly with my red feaverish cheeks. everything eles was the kind of gifts you would give to someone you dont know that well, or dont like very much...like little glass & fake gold jewlrey boxes, verry ugly candles, and bath smellies. i didnt know what to think really, i thought this was some kind of message my family was sending me....either its "we dont know you" or its "we dont really like you" mind you i am greatfull for them, but sometimes i just wonder. b&s content: as i was at my friends house durring the holidays helping pack because shes moving,some freinds came by, and they played alot of radiohead! alot! so i asked if i could put in somthing different, so guess what i put in? i'll give you 3 guesses.... and to my utter shock, none of them liked it,"we dont like 70's music" my friend even said "hes sings off key" am i missing somthing here? or are they just stupid? but theses are the same people who enjoyed episode one from starwars too....otherwise having very good taste well gotta go bye angela ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordiet at xxx.com Fri Jan 7 18:10:59 2000 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: 7 Jan 2000 10:10:59 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Mine is a devil´s haircut.... Message-ID: <20000107181059.8418.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From honey at xxx.org Fri Jan 7 21:11:03 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (Honey) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:11:03 GMT Subject: Sinister: test4 Message-ID: <200001072111.VAA02281@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> >From rjonkman at ittc.ukans.edu Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:02:47 -0500 From: Roelof JT Jonkman To: unisog at sans.org Cc: Mark Reimer Subject: Re: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.3 3/22/99 Mark, Etherpeek seems ok for that, we use it on and off. http://www.aggroup.com mrtg is sort of a neat tool too. http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html roel Systems & Network hacker ITTC/University of Kansas >From RGolshan at Central.UH.EDU Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:01:31 -0500 From: "Golshan, Reza" To: 'Mark Reimer ' , "'unisog at sans.org '" Cc: "'reza at uh.edu'" Subject: RE: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) [ The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] Take a look at; http://www.telecomm.uh.edu/statistics.html which uses; http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html Reza -----Original Message----- From: Mark Reimer To: unisog at sans.org Sent: 8/18/99 9:41 AM Subject: Network (Ethernet) Monitors Hi all, I'm looking at software for monitoring my local network(s). I'm just looking for general monitoring (how much bandwidth is being used, number of frames etc). Ideally it would catch Ethernet errors as well. I'm looking for it to run on DOS or Windows 95/NT. Any recommendations will be appreciated. Mark ======================================== Mark Reimer, MCSE PC Specialist Information Services, Prairie Bible Institute Phone: 403-443-5511 Ext: 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 E-mail: mark.reimer at pbi.ab.ca >From vanepp at sfu.ca Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:58:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Van Epp To: unisog at sans.org Subject: Re: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] I believe NeTraMet still supports a DOS version ... ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/iawg/NeTraMet/ Peter Van Epp / Operations and Technical Support Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C. Canada >From milindj at mastek.com Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:14:27 +0530 From: Milind A. Joshi To: unisog at sans.org, Mark Reimer Subject: RE: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) [ Part 1, Text/PLAIN 32 lines. ] [ Unable to print this part. ] Try an evaluation copy of statscout - www.statscout.com There are may others... Milind ---------- From: Mark Reimer[SMTP:Mark.Reimer at xxx.ca] Sent: August 18, 1999 8:11 PM To: unisog at sans.org Subject: Network (Ethernet) Monitors Hi all, I'm looking at software for monitoring my local network(s). I'm just looking for general monitoring (how much bandwidth is being used, number of frames etc). Ideally it would catch Ethernet errors as well. I'm looking for it to run on DOS or Windows 95/NT. Any recommendations will be appreciated. Mark ======================================== Mark Reimer, MCSE PC Specialist Information Services, Prairie Bible Institute Phone: 403-443-5511 Ext: 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 E-mail: mark.reimer at pbi.ab.ca >From stoermer at unt.edu Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:32:26 -0500 From: Chris Stoermer To: unisog at sans.org Subject: Re: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) If you have manageable switches, you usually get software with them. I am testing two CentreCOM 8126XL 100Mg switches which come with "onboard" management tools via telnet and web. This particular model can break down switch traffic by each port. You can also disable each port via the management tool. Date sent: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:41:37 -0600 From: Mark Reimer Subject: Network (Ethernet) Monitors To: unisog at sans.org Hi all, I'm looking at software for monitoring my local network(s). I'm just looking for general monitoring (how much bandwidth is being used, number of frames etc). Ideally it would catch Ethernet errors as well. I'm looking for it to run on DOS or Windows 95/NT. Any recommendations will be appreciated. Mark ======================================== Mark Reimer, MCSE PC Specialist Information Services, Prairie Bible Institute Phone: 403-443-5511 Ext: 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 E-mail: mark.reimer at pbi.ab.ca Chris Stoermer Computer Support Specialist III College of Business Administration University of North Texas Email: stoermer at unt.edu Office: 940.369.8613 Fax: 940.565.4930 WEB: http://www.coba.unt.edu >From houserd at odc.edu Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:11:38 -0400 From: "Houser, Dan" To: "'unisog at sans.org'" Subject: RE: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) [ The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] > From: Doug Hughes [mailto:Doug.Hughes at xxx.EDU] > Subject: Re: Network (Ethernet) Monitors > > If you have switches, host based monitoring of bandwidth is moot. > > DOug IMHO.... Not. I am still constrained by the backbone bandwidth, regardless of the front-end solution. A common misconception held by networking professionals when they migrate from hubs to switches is that you now have full bandwidth utilization. Unfortunately, it only gives you full bandwidth to the backbone, which may not buy you much... (I had a client once who couldn't understand why their 10/100 switch wasn't providing better performance than their hub had been. Of course, it was because the switch was plugged into a legacy 10MB backplane, just like the old hub had been. The maximum throughput was still 10MB shared.) ddh >From Fred.Kiani at EP01.EGGINC.COM Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:29:30 -0400 From: "Kiani, Fred" To: 'Mark Reimer' , unisog at sans.org Subject: RE: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) It really depends how much money you would be willing to spend. I have not checked HP OpenView on DOS but it is working fine on NT. Best regards, Fred Kiani -----Original Message----- From: Mark Reimer [SMTP:Mark.Reimer at xxx.ca] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 10:42 AM To: unisog at sans.org Subject: Network (Ethernet) Monitors Hi all, I'm looking at software for monitoring my local network(s). I'm just looking for general monitoring (how much bandwidth is being used, number of frames etc). Ideally it would catch Ethernet errors as well. I'm looking for it to run on DOS or Windows 95/NT. Any recommendations will be appreciated. Mark ======================================== Mark Reimer, MCSE PC Specialist Information Services, Prairie Bible Institute Phone: 403-443-5511 Ext: 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 E-mail: mark.reimer at pbi.ab.ca >From Doug.Hughes at Eng.Auburn.EDU Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:58:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Doug Hughes To: unisog at sans.org Subject: RE: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: TkMail 4.0beta9 > >> From: Doug Hughes [mailto:Doug.Hughes at xxx.EDU] >> Subject: Re: Network (Ethernet) Monitors >> >> If you have switches, host based monitoring of bandwidth is moot. >> >> DOug > >IMHO.... > >Not. I am still constrained by the backbone bandwidth, regardless of the >front-end solution. > >A common misconception held by networking professionals when they migrate >from hubs to switches is that you now have full bandwidth utilization. >Unfortunately, it only gives you full bandwidth to the backbone, which may >not buy you much... (I had a client once who couldn't understand why their >10/100 switch wasn't providing better performance than their hub had been. >Of course, it was because the switch was plugged into a legacy 10MB >backplane, just like the old hub had been. The maximum throughput was still >10MB shared.) > I think you missed my point. If you have a switch installed, then any host based monitoring will show you (max) the bandwidth to that 'one' machine. All other bandwidth utilization is completely invisible. Of course, if all traffic is to that one machine (unlikely in most cases, but possible from your one example if you disregard any Internet traffic), then you would see it all. I would regard this as highly unusual, unless that one machine is a firewall or choke gateway of some sort. That was not indicated in the original post, but also possible I suppose. I'm not sure that I would want to turn my firewall into a network/bandwidth management platform as well. (I'm pretty sure I wouldn't..) In most common cases attempting to measure backbone bandwidth from a single machine is apt to be... unproductive.. (based upon measuring using software and a NIC in promiscuous mode on a single host as was inferred from the original posting) In all cases a smart switch will be able to tell you where your bandwidth is being used. You just have to know how to collect the data (or use the vendor provided software). RMON is a big plus here. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Fri Jan 7 21:12:50 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:12:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: test11 Message-ID: +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Fri Jan 7 21:13:46 2000 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey Droolz) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:13:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: test12 Message-ID: +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Fri Jan 7 21:04:18 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (Honey) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:04:18 GMT Subject: Sinister: test1 Message-ID: <200001072104.VAA01834@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> >From rjonkman at ittc.ukans.edu Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:02:47 -0500 From: Roelof JT Jonkman To: unisog at sans.org Cc: Mark Reimer Subject: Re: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.3 3/22/99 Mark, Etherpeek seems ok for that, we use it on and off. http://www.aggroup.com mrtg is sort of a neat tool too. http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html roel Systems & Network hacker ITTC/University of Kansas >From RGolshan at Central.UH.EDU Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:01:31 -0500 From: "Golshan, Reza" To: 'Mark Reimer ' , "'unisog at sans.org '" Cc: "'reza at uh.edu'" Subject: RE: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) [ The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] Take a look at; http://www.telecomm.uh.edu/statistics.html which uses; http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html Reza -----Original Message----- From: Mark Reimer To: unisog at sans.org Sent: 8/18/99 9:41 AM Subject: Network (Ethernet) Monitors Hi all, I'm looking at software for monitoring my local network(s). I'm just looking for general monitoring (how much bandwidth is being used, number of frames etc). Ideally it would catch Ethernet errors as well. I'm looking for it to run on DOS or Windows 95/NT. Any recommendations will be appreciated. Mark ======================================== Mark Reimer, MCSE PC Specialist Information Services, Prairie Bible Institute Phone: 403-443-5511 Ext: 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 E-mail: mark.reimer at pbi.ab.ca >From vanepp at sfu.ca Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:58:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Van Epp To: unisog at sans.org Subject: Re: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] I believe NeTraMet still supports a DOS version ... ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/iawg/NeTraMet/ Peter Van Epp / Operations and Technical Support Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C. Canada >From milindj at mastek.com Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:14:27 +0530 From: Milind A. Joshi To: unisog at sans.org, Mark Reimer Subject: RE: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) [ Part 1, Text/PLAIN 32 lines. ] [ Unable to print this part. ] Try an evaluation copy of statscout - www.statscout.com There are may others... Milind ---------- From: Mark Reimer[SMTP:Mark.Reimer at xxx.ca] Sent: August 18, 1999 8:11 PM To: unisog at sans.org Subject: Network (Ethernet) Monitors Hi all, I'm looking at software for monitoring my local network(s). I'm just looking for general monitoring (how much bandwidth is being used, number of frames etc). Ideally it would catch Ethernet errors as well. I'm looking for it to run on DOS or Windows 95/NT. Any recommendations will be appreciated. Mark ======================================== Mark Reimer, MCSE PC Specialist Information Services, Prairie Bible Institute Phone: 403-443-5511 Ext: 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 E-mail: mark.reimer at pbi.ab.ca >From stoermer at unt.edu Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:32:26 -0500 From: Chris Stoermer To: unisog at sans.org Subject: Re: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) If you have manageable switches, you usually get software with them. I am testing two CentreCOM 8126XL 100Mg switches which come with "onboard" management tools via telnet and web. This particular model can break down switch traffic by each port. You can also disable each port via the management tool. Date sent: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:41:37 -0600 From: Mark Reimer Subject: Network (Ethernet) Monitors To: unisog at sans.org Hi all, I'm looking at software for monitoring my local network(s). I'm just looking for general monitoring (how much bandwidth is being used, number of frames etc). Ideally it would catch Ethernet errors as well. I'm looking for it to run on DOS or Windows 95/NT. Any recommendations will be appreciated. Mark ======================================== Mark Reimer, MCSE PC Specialist Information Services, Prairie Bible Institute Phone: 403-443-5511 Ext: 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 E-mail: mark.reimer at pbi.ab.ca Chris Stoermer Computer Support Specialist III College of Business Administration University of North Texas Email: stoermer at unt.edu Office: 940.369.8613 Fax: 940.565.4930 WEB: http://www.coba.unt.edu >From houserd at odc.edu Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:11:38 -0400 From: "Houser, Dan" To: "'unisog at sans.org'" Subject: RE: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) [ The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] > From: Doug Hughes [mailto:Doug.Hughes at xxx.EDU] > Subject: Re: Network (Ethernet) Monitors > > If you have switches, host based monitoring of bandwidth is moot. > > DOug IMHO.... Not. I am still constrained by the backbone bandwidth, regardless of the front-end solution. A common misconception held by networking professionals when they migrate from hubs to switches is that you now have full bandwidth utilization. Unfortunately, it only gives you full bandwidth to the backbone, which may not buy you much... (I had a client once who couldn't understand why their 10/100 switch wasn't providing better performance than their hub had been. Of course, it was because the switch was plugged into a legacy 10MB backplane, just like the old hub had been. The maximum throughput was still 10MB shared.) ddh >From Fred.Kiani at EP01.EGGINC.COM Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:29:30 -0400 From: "Kiani, Fred" To: 'Mark Reimer' , unisog at sans.org Subject: RE: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) It really depends how much money you would be willing to spend. I have not checked HP OpenView on DOS but it is working fine on NT. Best regards, Fred Kiani -----Original Message----- From: Mark Reimer [SMTP:Mark.Reimer at xxx.ca] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 10:42 AM To: unisog at sans.org Subject: Network (Ethernet) Monitors Hi all, I'm looking at software for monitoring my local network(s). I'm just looking for general monitoring (how much bandwidth is being used, number of frames etc). Ideally it would catch Ethernet errors as well. I'm looking for it to run on DOS or Windows 95/NT. Any recommendations will be appreciated. Mark ======================================== Mark Reimer, MCSE PC Specialist Information Services, Prairie Bible Institute Phone: 403-443-5511 Ext: 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 E-mail: mark.reimer at pbi.ab.ca >From Doug.Hughes at Eng.Auburn.EDU Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:58:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Doug Hughes To: unisog at sans.org Subject: RE: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: TkMail 4.0beta9 > >> From: Doug Hughes [mailto:Doug.Hughes at xxx.EDU] >> Subject: Re: Network (Ethernet) Monitors >> >> If you have switches, host based monitoring of bandwidth is moot. >> >> DOug > >IMHO.... > >Not. I am still constrained by the backbone bandwidth, regardless of the >front-end solution. > >A common misconception held by networking professionals when they migrate >from hubs to switches is that you now have full bandwidth utilization. >Unfortunately, it only gives you full bandwidth to the backbone, which may >not buy you much... (I had a client once who couldn't understand why their >10/100 switch wasn't providing better performance than their hub had been. >Of course, it was because the switch was plugged into a legacy 10MB >backplane, just like the old hub had been. The maximum throughput was still >10MB shared.) > I think you missed my point. If you have a switch installed, then any host based monitoring will show you (max) the bandwidth to that 'one' machine. All other bandwidth utilization is completely invisible. Of course, if all traffic is to that one machine (unlikely in most cases, but possible from your one example if you disregard any Internet traffic), then you would see it all. I would regard this as highly unusual, unless that one machine is a firewall or choke gateway of some sort. That was not indicated in the original post, but also possible I suppose. I'm not sure that I would want to turn my firewall into a network/bandwidth management platform as well. (I'm pretty sure I wouldn't..) In most common cases attempting to measure backbone bandwidth from a single machine is apt to be... unproductive.. (based upon measuring using software and a NIC in promiscuous mode on a single host as was inferred from the original posting) In all cases a smart switch will be able to tell you where your bandwidth is being used. You just have to know how to collect the data (or use the vendor provided software). RMON is a big plus here. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Fri Jan 7 21:08:47 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (Honey) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:08:47 GMT Subject: Sinister: test2 Message-ID: <200001072108.VAA02028@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> >From rjonkman at ittc.ukans.edu Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:02:47 -0500 From: Roelof JT Jonkman To: unisog at sans.org Cc: Mark Reimer Subject: Re: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.3 3/22/99 Mark, Etherpeek seems ok for that, we use it on and off. http://www.aggroup.com mrtg is sort of a neat tool too. http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html roel Systems & Network hacker ITTC/University of Kansas >From RGolshan at Central.UH.EDU Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:01:31 -0500 From: "Golshan, Reza" To: 'Mark Reimer ' , "'unisog at sans.org '" Cc: "'reza at uh.edu'" Subject: RE: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) [ The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] Take a look at; http://www.telecomm.uh.edu/statistics.html which uses; http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html Reza -----Original Message----- From: Mark Reimer To: unisog at sans.org Sent: 8/18/99 9:41 AM Subject: Network (Ethernet) Monitors Hi all, I'm looking at software for monitoring my local network(s). I'm just looking for general monitoring (how much bandwidth is being used, number of frames etc). Ideally it would catch Ethernet errors as well. I'm looking for it to run on DOS or Windows 95/NT. Any recommendations will be appreciated. Mark ======================================== Mark Reimer, MCSE PC Specialist Information Services, Prairie Bible Institute Phone: 403-443-5511 Ext: 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 E-mail: mark.reimer at pbi.ab.ca >From vanepp at sfu.ca Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:58:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Van Epp To: unisog at sans.org Subject: Re: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] I believe NeTraMet still supports a DOS version ... ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/iawg/NeTraMet/ Peter Van Epp / Operations and Technical Support Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C. Canada >From milindj at mastek.com Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:14:27 +0530 From: Milind A. Joshi To: unisog at sans.org, Mark Reimer Subject: RE: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) [ Part 1, Text/PLAIN 32 lines. ] [ Unable to print this part. ] Try an evaluation copy of statscout - www.statscout.com There are may others... Milind ---------- From: Mark Reimer[SMTP:Mark.Reimer at xxx.ca] Sent: August 18, 1999 8:11 PM To: unisog at sans.org Subject: Network (Ethernet) Monitors Hi all, I'm looking at software for monitoring my local network(s). I'm just looking for general monitoring (how much bandwidth is being used, number of frames etc). Ideally it would catch Ethernet errors as well. I'm looking for it to run on DOS or Windows 95/NT. Any recommendations will be appreciated. Mark ======================================== Mark Reimer, MCSE PC Specialist Information Services, Prairie Bible Institute Phone: 403-443-5511 Ext: 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 E-mail: mark.reimer at pbi.ab.ca >From stoermer at unt.edu Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:32:26 -0500 From: Chris Stoermer To: unisog at sans.org Subject: Re: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) If you have manageable switches, you usually get software with them. I am testing two CentreCOM 8126XL 100Mg switches which come with "onboard" management tools via telnet and web. This particular model can break down switch traffic by each port. You can also disable each port via the management tool. Date sent: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:41:37 -0600 From: Mark Reimer Subject: Network (Ethernet) Monitors To: unisog at sans.org Hi all, I'm looking at software for monitoring my local network(s). I'm just looking for general monitoring (how much bandwidth is being used, number of frames etc). Ideally it would catch Ethernet errors as well. I'm looking for it to run on DOS or Windows 95/NT. Any recommendations will be appreciated. Mark ======================================== Mark Reimer, MCSE PC Specialist Information Services, Prairie Bible Institute Phone: 403-443-5511 Ext: 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 E-mail: mark.reimer at pbi.ab.ca Chris Stoermer Computer Support Specialist III College of Business Administration University of North Texas Email: stoermer at unt.edu Office: 940.369.8613 Fax: 940.565.4930 WEB: http://www.coba.unt.edu >From houserd at odc.edu Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:11:38 -0400 From: "Houser, Dan" To: "'unisog at sans.org'" Subject: RE: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) [ The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] > From: Doug Hughes [mailto:Doug.Hughes at xxx.EDU] > Subject: Re: Network (Ethernet) Monitors > > If you have switches, host based monitoring of bandwidth is moot. > > DOug IMHO.... Not. I am still constrained by the backbone bandwidth, regardless of the front-end solution. A common misconception held by networking professionals when they migrate from hubs to switches is that you now have full bandwidth utilization. Unfortunately, it only gives you full bandwidth to the backbone, which may not buy you much... (I had a client once who couldn't understand why their 10/100 switch wasn't providing better performance than their hub had been. Of course, it was because the switch was plugged into a legacy 10MB backplane, just like the old hub had been. The maximum throughput was still 10MB shared.) ddh >From Fred.Kiani at EP01.EGGINC.COM Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:29:30 -0400 From: "Kiani, Fred" To: 'Mark Reimer' , unisog at sans.org Subject: RE: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) It really depends how much money you would be willing to spend. I have not checked HP OpenView on DOS but it is working fine on NT. Best regards, Fred Kiani -----Original Message----- From: Mark Reimer [SMTP:Mark.Reimer at xxx.ca] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 10:42 AM To: unisog at sans.org Subject: Network (Ethernet) Monitors Hi all, I'm looking at software for monitoring my local network(s). I'm just looking for general monitoring (how much bandwidth is being used, number of frames etc). Ideally it would catch Ethernet errors as well. I'm looking for it to run on DOS or Windows 95/NT. Any recommendations will be appreciated. Mark ======================================== Mark Reimer, MCSE PC Specialist Information Services, Prairie Bible Institute Phone: 403-443-5511 Ext: 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 E-mail: mark.reimer at pbi.ab.ca >From Doug.Hughes at Eng.Auburn.EDU Wed Dec 15 17:35:38 1999 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:58:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Doug Hughes To: unisog at sans.org Subject: RE: Network (Ethernet) Monitors X-Mailer: TkMail 4.0beta9 > >> From: Doug Hughes [mailto:Doug.Hughes at xxx.EDU] >> Subject: Re: Network (Ethernet) Monitors >> >> If you have switches, host based monitoring of bandwidth is moot. >> >> DOug > >IMHO.... > >Not. I am still constrained by the backbone bandwidth, regardless of the >front-end solution. > >A common misconception held by networking professionals when they migrate >from hubs to switches is that you now have full bandwidth utilization. >Unfortunately, it only gives you full bandwidth to the backbone, which may >not buy you much... (I had a client once who couldn't understand why their >10/100 switch wasn't providing better performance than their hub had been. >Of course, it was because the switch was plugged into a legacy 10MB >backplane, just like the old hub had been. The maximum throughput was still >10MB shared.) > I think you missed my point. If you have a switch installed, then any host based monitoring will show you (max) the bandwidth to that 'one' machine. All other bandwidth utilization is completely invisible. Of course, if all traffic is to that one machine (unlikely in most cases, but possible from your one example if you disregard any Internet traffic), then you would see it all. I would regard this as highly unusual, unless that one machine is a firewall or choke gateway of some sort. That was not indicated in the original post, but also possible I suppose. I'm not sure that I would want to turn my firewall into a network/bandwidth management platform as well. (I'm pretty sure I wouldn't..) In most common cases attempting to measure backbone bandwidth from a single machine is apt to be... unproductive.. (based upon measuring using software and a NIC in promiscuous mode on a single host as was inferred from the original posting) In all cases a smart switch will be able to tell you where your bandwidth is being used. You just have to know how to collect the data (or use the vendor provided software). RMON is a big plus here. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From unloveable_ at xxx.com Sat Jan 8 05:19:03 2000 From: unloveable_ at xxx.com (angela i hate my last name) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 23:19:03 CST Subject: Sinister: He had the flu at the age of 24 Message-ID: <20000108051903.18096.qmail@hotmail.com> ok after re-reading this last post i sent i think from now on i will take a long pause and think about how i tend to put my foot in my mouth just a tad somtimes..... sorry if i offended any radio head fans....i swear my sins most of the time are of omission rather than comission. so sorry! :-( >From: "angela i hate my last name" >Reply-To: "angela i hate my last name" >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Re: Sinister: He had the flu at the age of 24 >Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 11:59:20 CST > >i got the flu for my christmass present, >it lasted till just about yesterday. >the gift that keeps on giving , wouldnt you say? >so ummmmmm i got new flanle sheets for christmass too! >i think they went perfectly with my illness....the pale gray >matched perfectly with my red feaverish cheeks. >everything eles was the kind of gifts you would give to someone you dont >know that well, or dont like very much...like little glass & fake gold >jewlrey boxes, verry ugly candles, and bath smellies. >i didnt know what to think really, i thought this was some kind of message >my family was sending me....either its "we dont know you" >or its "we dont really like you" >mind you i am greatfull for them, but sometimes i just wonder. > >b&s content: >as i was at my friends house durring the holidays helping pack because shes >moving,some freinds came by, and they played alot of radiohead! alot! >so i asked if i could put in somthing different, so guess what i put in? >i'll give you 3 guesses.... >and to my utter shock, none of them liked it,"we dont like 70's music" my >friend even said "hes sings off key" >am i missing somthing here? or are they just stupid? >but theses are the same people who enjoyed episode one from starwars >too....otherwise having very good taste >well gotta go bye >angela > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister >+-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ >+-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From xstensionchord at xxx.net Sat Jan 8 15:35:13 2000 From: xstensionchord at xxx.net (Chad Curtis) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 10:35:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re: Senor Hansen Message-ID: <8355-38775931-3289@storefull-624.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Well, I disagree. First of all calling anyone a genius or prodigy is silly. Yet, Beck is very compelling to me, because he is in the same "over-spill" of modern culture. He's there with the few masses of us who see mod-society as something non-linear and fascinating. People put labels on things (life, art, cultures) and in turn the "over-spill" folks either make people uncomfortable or plain kinky. In short it's a celebration of what "is now". Speaking of originality [the Gilliam/SexxLaws video comparison] Belle and Sebastian aren't in any aspect near original. In my opinion I dispense individuality and think it is all ego oriented. We want so much to be tacked onto things we take as personal, but very seldom free ourselves of it. There is nothing new or revolutionary about B&S, just as there isn't with Beck. In music there is no one who owns anything, whether it be note combination or pieces as a whole, because thousands have played that same music at the very same time. Does anyone really think what modern pop musicians do is new? In the bold truth, music stopped being something new and original many decades ago. Yet, we can still enjoy music's power and not rant and rave whether it's over or under rated. There is no individual in life. We are one common influence so to say. the folowing was in response to>>>>> <<<>>> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Sat Jan 8 15:06:40 2000 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:06:40 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S content interleaved with rubbish Message-ID: <80256860.00530324.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Are you all mad? Study at Stow is neither a description nor an order. It's an exhortation of sorts, kind of "C'mon kids - why not study at Stow - it's GRATE!!". I don't think I'm doing the cause any good, because my T-shirt has funny white stains on it. I really don't know what they are. Susannah used to ask us all to own up to getting up to hand whisky tricks to a B&S soundtrack. Those were the daze. I like this deliberate misspelling game alot. Actually, I don't. It unsettles me. 'A lot' is TWO SEPARATE WORDS. Unless you're talking about divvying up spoils or something. No one talks about spoils much anymore. Someone like Nick Heyward once sighed live on radio when listening to 'She's Leaving Home' and said "No one uses words like 'clutch' in pop lyrics anymore." The Beach Boys will never be as good as the Beatles because they had a perfect opportunity in 'Little Honda' but just went on about all the gears instead. Mind you, everything's automatic in America, isn't it? Hello everyone. Still here? I'm surprised that no one has posted about the B&S snippet in Select magazine yet. There's a mini-interview with Neil Robertson, talking about the new album. I only read it in WH Smith, so I can't vouch for the accuracy of what follows. Has anyone ever been told off for reading magazines at a train station Smith's? Has anyone who works in a library ever taken the opportunity to shout "THIS ISN'T A WH SMITH'S" at anyone who came in and asked for cigarettes or a pencil case or something? It turns out that 'Beyond the Sunrise' is another Stevie Jackson number. It's this one that has the sitars and the 'party sounds' that they recorded a while ago. As well as 'Family Tree' and 'Marx and Engels' and other things we've known about since 1964, there are two completely new titles mentioned. One is another Stevie song, and I've forgotten its name ('Working Man'? 'Corporate Lawyer'? Something like that, anyway). The other is, horror of horrors, a Stuart Mmmm song. It's called 'The Model' and it has nothing to do with Krautrock. Why is it OK to say 'Krautrock'? 'The Model' b/w 'Computer Love' was the first single I ever bought. Nineteen years later, I'm still not sure what a 'data date' involves. Is it like 7-Zark-7 getting all flustered over Susan in 'Battle of the Planets'? Anyway, back to the egg. There's still no title for it, not even a working one. Well that's what NR says, but he's probably just not in on it. Behind his back the band probably giggle and say things like "Lets do some more noodly overdubs on our new album 'Neil Robertson Is A Cunt'." The rumours that every member but 'group dunce' Colburn has written something for it are true. Neil says it's like "Belle & Sebastian, but more so". I'm not sure this is a good thing. I preferred it when Mark Jones said it would 'blow my mind'. That's all I remember. All go to WH Smith and read it yourselves, you cheapskates. This isn't a book reading. I am increasingly intrigued by the Isobel-encouraging men. Is there no witness on the list prepared to enlighten us? nick xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.borgia at xxx.ca Sat Jan 8 17:11:53 2000 From: alexander.borgia at xxx.ca (Alexander Borgia) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 12:11:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: Senor Hansen References: <8355-38775931-3289@storefull-624.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Message-ID: <38776EC7.3C86BC29@sympatico.ca> Chad Curtis wrote: > think what modern pop musicians do is new? In the bold truth, music > stopped being something new and original many decades ago. Yet, we can > still enjoy music's power and not rant and rave whether it's over or > under rated. There is no individual in life. We are one common influence > so to say. > We are BORG. We will a-sinister-late you. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Sat Jan 8 18:19:33 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:19:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: PLEASE READ: Exodus, Movement of Jah People Message-ID: OK chums it's time to move to our new spiritual home. Although the list's been ticking away happily since the heathen Esosoft infidels swooped down on us just before Christmas, we've been living on borrowed time: the lists have had the same addresses via Uri Geller style magic tricks, but they've actually been going through a different server, which we're borrowing. We're now about to move to our new permanent home after I send this message, courtesy of the rather sexy Miss Print's printing shop at missprint.org. This is therefore a pretty important message, and I want you to all take out the pen sets your Aunt Hettie gave you for Christmas and write this down: ALL list addresses change as from now as follows: To send mails to the list, send mail to: sinister at missprint.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, set digest, set nomail etc send mail to: majordomo at missprint.org It's easy: everywhere you used to use "majordomo.net", substitute "missprint.org". "majordomo.net" should now be seen as the mark of the beast and to be avoided. Everything should work just the same. If you forget the above I'm afraid I don't know what will happen to your mails: you might get an error message at some stage, or they might go into a black hole. I'd love to send you back a redirection message, but I don't think I can except maybe for a short while. So please please remember this, and go away and destroy your old mails you may have kept telling you how to subscribe or unsubscribe so you don't try that way in future. I'll update the WWW pages now, and when the new list is up (matter of minutes hopefully) I'll send on a new version of the joining instructions for you to paste in your scrapbooks. None of you need to rejoin or anything, just remember the new addresses. You've all been very well-behaved over Christmas, and I got a lovely book about misfits, a teddy called Joseph, some sexy raspberry body glitter and a rude vibrating sheep from a few of you. You are forever in my heart :) I'll mail you all again in a few minutes from Miss Print's front parlour. Honey x missprint.org: it's where we live :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Sat Jan 8 18:50:59 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:50:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Hello from Miss Print's Message-ID: Hello it's me again. The list has been successfully moved and the new addresses are in effect from now on. I'll send on a revised version of the instructions just after this mail. I hope we're all very happy in our new home. We're not relying on anyone else's Majordomo list software anymore: I decided to have done with it and set it up myself on my own server. If anyone else wants to run a mailing list and needs something a bit more sophisticated than the free servers out there (you will if it's a medium-sized list), and is prepared to learn a little about Majordomo commands, get in touch and we can share the minimal costs. There's at least one other list moving to missprint.org soon, and it'd be nice to create a little pop village :) Apparently Cliff Richard is doing a follow up to his Christmas single. On this one he sings all the bits in the bible condemning homosexuality and drunkenness and women talking in church and "spilling your seed on the ground" to the tune of the British National Anthem. Mmm. Did anyone in the UK watch "Digby The Biggest Dog In The World" over Christmas on TV? I remember watching it when I was 10 and thinking it was the best film in the world. And guess what? It still IS. Honey @ Miss Print's xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Sat Jan 8 18:55:34 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:55:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Instructions and FAQ updated for missprint.org Message-ID: Belle and Sebastian Sinister Mailing List This is a list of questions for using the list. A list of frequently asked questions for Belle and Sebastian themselves can be found at the Jeepster Site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/faq. I know this document is long but please take time to read it before you use the list. Ignorance is no defence, and you're expected to have read and agreed to these before posting - if not, you might encounter the BLACK HOLE OF SINISTER. And don't think I'm not aware, and slightly apologetic, about how long this is, but it's been reached at by agreement with the wishes of the majority of people who are on the list and have taken time to mail me about it. Finally, please always remember to check the Sinister WWW site regularly for list news: http://www.missprint.org/sinister Mailing List Frequently Asked Questions Index Preface A. What's Sinister? What connection has it with the record company? B. What happens if I don't bother reading this? C. Before you start: sending plain text messages to the list Using the list 1. How do I send messages, subscribe/unsubscribe from Sinister? 2. So I just send everything to "sinister at missprint.org", yeah? 3. I'm getting fed up with all these messages, can I get them all together sometime instead? 4. Can I tell who is on the list? 5. I can't get off the list - why not? 6. I'm on the list but I've stopped getting any emails - what's happened?? --OR-- My list messages stopped and I get keep getting silly ones about a list called "honey-bounces" - what's all this about? 7. I only just joined the list, can I see what's previously been sent? 8. Someone mentioned something on the list and I can't remember when or what they said - shall I ask again? 9. I need someone's email address from the list and I can't find it 10. When I send a reply to the list the address my mail program decides to send to if I don't change it is stupid! Why don't replies automatically go back to the list / the recipient only? List content and rules 11. OK so it's a music list then? 12. So what can we talk about on the list? 13. So why can't anyone out there send any old junk to the list? 14. Brilliant! I can advertise my new band/floor cleaner/hygiene product to everyone on the list now! 15. He/she's really winding me up, I'm going to slag them off something rotten... 16. What else do I have to remember? Hints 17. What is "Tigermilk" / what other recordings are there / who is in the band etc etc? 18. Can someone record me a CDR, MD, MP3 of Tigermilk or another B&S release? 19. I've found a shop selling CDR bootlegs... 20. Hey I've found out Belle and Sebastian are releasing a single / playing a gig and no-one's mentioned it yet, I'm going to tell everyone... About the list 21. Who provides this list? Who says I can't do what I want on it? 22. What has the list got to do with Jeepster, the record company? 23. Do the band read the list? 24. Why bother with all this? 25. What sort of presents can I send to Honey to show him I love him? Using the list A. What's Sinister? What connection has it with the record company? The Sinister list sprung fully-formed from the fiery backside of a list briefly set up on one of those WWW public services by the Belle and Sebastian "fan-club"; unfortunately these public lists don't work very well, so it was restarted on this server by me shortly after its birth. It's the original fully-flavoured and pedigree Belle and Sebastian mailing list, set up in 1997, with about a thousand members. It's a very special list - not a "resource for fans", but a community of people who love the music of Belle and Sebastian, and who usually love each other, often ending up in each others underwear too. It isn't for people who want quick one-shot answers to one-shot questions, or want to sell something, or want to show how cool they are (because I'm not), but is a safe hidey-hole for people who want somewhere they can contribute and receive thoughtful, imaginative and saucy thoughts about the band and everything that starts there and doesn't end up somewhere pointless. Although it isn't solely a news list, you will also get Belle and Sebastian news promptly, passed on from record company mails or the band themselves. The list is run from Scotland, so it's pretty close to home, and many of the members are friends of the band - the band sometimes mail and often read too. This is worth remembering when you're thinking of sending in scurrilous rumours, amused though the band are by all that too though sometimes. Please remember: although this list was originally called "the Official List" by Jeepster, it's entirely independent of the band and the record company - it's completely independent of all commercial concerns in fact, and is here for you. B. What happens if I don't bother reading this? The list has got too big and too hard to manage to tolerate people who want to show off, swap personal jokes with friends, use it as a forum to promote their ego, abuse others, or carry on blithely ignoring the rules below, which try to keep some sort of sanity for the many many people who receive every message. If it looks like you're blindly and deliberately ignoring the rules in this document over a long period of time, your mail might eventually stop getting passed through to the list unless you sharpen up. If you keep on offending you'll get kicked and banned. I'm afraid this has become necessary as the list has grown and nearly now become unmanageable, and is something called for very strongly by the majority of listees. But, listen, it'll only happen to people who've clearly ignored all this. Just please read ALL the rules before even thinking of posting. And don't grumble :) C. Before you start: sending plain text messages to the list Please read the document: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/plaintext.html before sending to the list, otherwise your messages might never get through. It's a set of checklists to ensure the mail program you are using doesn't send unreadable formatting information to the list. Using the list 1. How do I send messages, subscribe/unsubscribe from Sinister? There are two addresses you need to remember to use the list: sinister at missprint.org - this is the address to send messages to everyone on the list. Everything sent here goes to everyone - the list software makes a copy of your message and sends it on to everyone who is subscribed. You use this address everytime you want to mail information to the list, when you've been given the ability to post to it. majordomo at missprint.org - this is where you send mailing list requests i.e. subscribe/unsubscribes. Messages sent here don't go to the list but perform certain commands - they should be sent in the body of your message (i.e. first line) and not the subject line. There's not a person on the other end but a program which reads commands you send in your email and responds to them, so you need to type them exactly right. To subscribe to the list you need to send the following command: subscribe sinister and equally unsubscribe sinister to get off the list. It's important you understand the distinction between these two addresses. Once you've joined the list you have to wait a little while before you can send a post to it. This is to ensure that newcomers get a feel for list content, look through the archives and information on these WWW pages and soak up the list atmosphere before taking part. The list is sufficiently big now that this time in the nursery for new members is necessary to stop the list going wild with new requests and questions that have been asked many times before and can be easily answered by looking in the Archives or Searching. This may all seem a bit harsh but this list is very special, usually extremely friendly, welcoming and helpful, and most list members consider themselves part of a warm community, sometimes even with occasional trouser fumblings. I'd hate visitors to this page to see this as elitist - it's simply a way of introducing a warming-up period so that there's some continuity in the spirit of the list. If you want a nice place to stay on the Internet, it's worth the wait, and I daresay you'll appreciate this measure when you're a proper member. If you rejoin the list later having gained a voice before, you'll get it back straight away. The current period you have to sit in the nursery and play with bricks for before getting a voice to post is 2-3 weeks (the procedure to give you a voice runs every week or so). At that time you'll get a mail message telling you you have graduated and can now post. It's still very important that you've read through all the List Rules before taking part, as failure to follow them could result in your voice being permanently removed. If you ever get really stuck and you have read the rest of this page, then just send a personal message to honey at missprint.org This gets through to a person i.e. me and I can sort it out but I'll pull a face if you haven't tried everything suggested here. 2. So I just send everything to "sinister at missprint.org", yeah? No! Read again! Never send unsubscribe requests to the list itself (i.e. sinister at missprint.org) but always to majordomo at missprint.org!!! This is very important as you'll find people will want to throttle you if you send such messages to the list - it happens a lot and drives people mad. I may be able to put a block on these and chuck them away but I do not have the time to manual subscribe/unsubscribe people who get it wrong. 3. I'm getting fed up with all these messages, can I get them all together sometime instead? Yes, instead of subscribing to "sinister" you need to subscribe to "sinister-digest". This means you get a single mail of all messages to the list rather than each message individually as someone send it. Digests are sent out every now and again, probably about once a day but actually when the number of lines hits a certain threshold. Just follow the same rules as above, so just send the message: subscribe sinister-digest to: majordomo at missprint.org Note the hyphen above, many people leave it out and it matters! Remember if you are changing to the digest to unsubscribe from the standard list. 4. Can I tell who is on the list? Yes. The first way is to click on the links on the main WWW page under "Joining". Here you can see the full email addresses of people on the main list, the digest, and a breakdown of who on the list is from which countries. If you can't get to the WWW you can still get a list by email: just send the command who sinister to majordomo at missprint.org Equally you can get some info on the list be sending: info sinister but you'll probably just get the same as you're reading here. 5. I can't get off the list - why not? Don't mail me until you've read this or I'll get a bit grumpy. There are several reasons why it doesn't work when you expect it to: 1. You're not on "sinister" but the digest version which is actually a separate list called "sinister-digest". You need to send an "unsubscribe sinister-digest" command. 2. Your mail program is sending out your email address in a slightly different format than before (maybe you changed programs). First you should check your subscription address by finding it in the correct list, using the "who" command or looking at the list from the top WWW page as described above. If you see your address still on the list then try: unsubscribe sinister email-address There'll be a slight delay while this kind of request gets approved but it'll be a lot quicker than waiting for me to sort it out manually. 3. You're actually off the list but mail is still dribbling through - again check the subscriber list from the WWW or using the "who" command. If none of this works and you're sure you're still on the list, then mail me, but send me the error you get when you try and unsubscribe. I can't do much without this. 6. I'm on the list but I've stopped getting any emails - what's happened?? --OR-- My list messages stopped and I get keep getting silly ones about bouincing email - what's all this about? Often your service provider will have problems with its email setup and mail to you from the list will bounce back to me. I get many of these a day and after mail has bounced once or twice you will be taken off the Sinister list or digest and put on another list to warn you regularly. It keeps trying you until it gets through, i.e. your email is fixed and you can see the problem. The next thing to do is read the message! It will tell you what to do. You need to first take yourself off the bounce list (to stop getting the reminders). You do this by sending a mail to "owner-sinister at missprint.org" the text of which says just "unbounce". You then need add yourself back on the "sinister" or "sinister-digest" as if you are a new user. If you were on the main list then you would send the following to majordomo at missprint.org (not sinister at missprint.org!): subscribe sinister You should get confirmation back that this has worked. If your address is having delivery problems (i.e. the list can't get through to you) then it will be receiving errors - to see if it is for you, take a look at the list of the last 30 internet service providers to generate errors to see if your delivery address has problems: just look for the file that contains the name of your ISP (something that looks like your email address) and look inside to see if it mentions your own account as giving an error. If you have tried all the suggestions in this list, contact the list owner. But if you find an error message in this directory referring to your email, take a copy and shove it under the nose of your system administrator or service provider, asking them what's wrong. At any rate, if you stop getting list emails you should check you are still on the list by looking at the membership lists under Joining The List. You could also check that there is mail currently arriving by looking at the list archives. 7. I only just joined the list, can I see what's previously been sent? Yes there is an archive available on the WWW. Just click on "Archives" at the top of the main Sinister WWW page which is at: http://www.missprint.org/sinister This is the last page of the current month's archive of messages. Follow the links from that page to see any week's messages on the list, and there are links to see messages in date order etc. if you prefer. 8. Someone mentioned something on the list and I can't remember when or what they said - shall I ask again? Well have a look in the archives first so you don't get told that it's been answered before. Use the search facility on the WWW site - you can find it by going to the "Search" link at the top of the main Sinister page. You can search for any word or series of words by typing them in the box. There are lots of options to search for different things. 9. I need someone's email address from the list and I can't find it Use the "Search" above to look for their name in the archive. Don't ask the list or you'll be spanked. 10. When I send a reply to the list the address my mail program decides to send to if I don't change it is stupid! Why don't replies automatically go back to the list / the recipient only? The setting for this list is that a Reply-to field is not set. This means that for most mail programs replies will go back to the sender of the message rather than the list itself. This may or may not be the right behaviour for you, but is set as a most conservative and safest choice for the list. This is a fairly religious issue but here's a quick discussion why I have done it this way. Please digest users in particular remember that a reply to a message in the digest will not go to the list. It goes to "owner-sinister" which is a particular kind of black hole :) I get these sometimes and I'm afraid the list takes too much of my time to manual send stuff on. It'll get deleted very rapidly, so you'll just have to remember I'm afraid. The main reason is because it is generally seen as bad practice to do this,although it's quite widespread - see for instance http://www.unicom.com/FAQ/reply-to-harmful.html The reason for this isn't petty technical completeness but because it can cause very real problems - only in the last month my mailbox was filled with a thousand copies of the same error message caused by a badly constructed mail program at the receiving end by someone on the list - some of the bigger corporations just don't abide by standard Internet mailing rules and their programs send errors back to the Reply-To field, which go back to the list and via the list back to the offending machine and... you can imagine. For people picking up their mail via dial-up I can only imagine the nightmares this would cause. List content and rules 11. OK so it's a music list then? Well - sort of - but remember it's a list for People Who Listen To Belle And Sebastian and it's very existence is centred around that idea. There are plenty of much more general music lists (e.g. "indiepop") which will be better suited to someone who wants to talk for hours about a particular genre. These other lists have many more resources behind them and are there for just that. Of course we're all going to talk about music/books/wallpaper we like but there's a balance to be struck. It's actually quite a hard balance to find so the best thing to do is watch the list for a while and see what people like. 12. So what can we talk about on the list? Anything vaguely connected with the band or with life as a fan of Belle and Sebastian, is OK. The list is the place where you'll hear any real news about Belle and Sebastian first, but it is also a place where people will tell stories about what's happened to them, if they think they're funny or relevant. Try and remember this: it's a list for Belle and Sebastian but more importantly about the lives of People Who Listen To Belle And Sebastian. If you want a low-volume news-only list for the band then don't join. You will get a lot of mail that isn't about latest releases, gigs, appearances etc., but instead about ourselves. The list goes right when it's lively, funny, interesting, touching, and sometimes even useful. The list goes wrong when people post irrelevancies, not-so-funny "clever" quips, or long discussions take place which would be more suited to another list (like discussions of the relative merits of a band unrelated to B&S). I may step in if we get a long long conversation about something interesting to only a tiny minority of the list - some people pay handsomely for their email and would not be pleased to receive a thousand messages about an obscure band from Wigan who once sounded a bit like the intro to one of Belle and Sebastian's songs. If you do receive a mail from me which asks you to stop posting to the list on a particular subject, or in a particular way, please don't be offended - I am just trying to keep this list running ok - but please do something about it. I have seen too many lists die as a result of losing sight of what they are for and why people liked them in the first place, and don't want the same to happen here, if it can be avoided. Please try and be sensitive to the majority of listeners (about 1000 at the time of writing) and do not continue long threads on an unrelated subject - if you wish to divert widely from the issues related specifically to the band, then go to a more general list or pop along to www.liszt.com and join another list as well! Pet theories about whether Elvis is a cat or indeed a brussel sprout are however tolerated for a long time because they amuse your list administrator. 13. So why can't anyone out there send any old junk to the list? Because you can only send to the list if you are a member. Some people may be on the list, but try and send from another mail account somewhere else - normally this mail will bounce back to you with a message explaining why. Other people's mail programs send out the sender's email address in a different format from the address you subscribed with - unfortunately my computer doesn't know that and will again send back your email, explaining why and what to do. This restrictions to posting to the list has been added, to remove the possibility of unsolicited adverts, and more importantly, to promote a sense of community and inhibit one-off mailshots from people who haven't taken the time to absorb the list's content and try and fit in sensitively. This has been necessary as a lot of loyal list members have appealed to me to stop un-thought-out and careless emails from people who don't want to make an effort, and it's made the list very hard to read. I don't allow new members who read the WWW archives by choice, to post to the list I'm afraid, as it's just too easy to skip through one or two messages instead of committing yourself to be a member and therefore appreciate what a pain 40 pointless messages in a day can be in your mailbox. 14. Brilliant! I can advertise my new band/floor cleaner/hygiene product to everyone on the list now! Please please please don't abuse the list in this way. Anyone who consistently and unashamedly sends adverts to the list will be banned with no court of appeal. 15. He/she's really winding me up, I'm going to slag them off something rotten... DO NOT FLAME PEOPLE OR BE ABUSIVE! I take this very seriously and will act accordingly - too many mailing lists have been ruined by arrogance or a quick temper by people who consider themselves "real fans" - a rather pathetic term. This mailing list is setup for everyone, especially new enthusiastic listeners who do not need to be abused and belittled. Please be helpful and if you can't think of anything nice to say go and do a jigsaw. Anyone who is consistently a real pain will be permanently removed. I am a naive kitten and I don't like fights on my list and I'll stop them - there are plenty of angry lists to go to if you want. If anyone feels they are being unfairly mistreated or have any other problems with the list please mail me rather than the list. I will sort out any such problems offline. This of course doesn't mean you can't express strong feelings strongly - in fact it's mandatory. But don't attack people, attack things. 16. What else do I have to remember? Please read these and remember. If someone consistently ignores these you might get a bit of a growl and in extreme cases I'll stop people posting and kick people off if the happiness of the majority on the list demands it. * Don't use the list to sell stuff or you will get an angry note from me - this list must stay strictly non-commercial to ensure its future existence. * Don't send warnings about viruses to the list! You might be being friendly but 99.9% of these "virus warnings" are hoaxes - the only "virus" is the fact that you are passing it on, and everyone who knows will groan. If you see one of these and aren't sure then mail me and I will check for you. * Don't send lots of replies to separate messages on the list one after another. This doesn't seem to go down well. Proper behaviour is to hold back, read a few messages and bundle up your replies to them all in one big message for the day. If you're sending more than two messages a day, unless in exceptionaly circumstances where you have something very important to tell us all, then you're getting it wrong, and will probably hear from me. * If you are replying to someone, take the time to edit the bits you are quoting from their message carefully and just quote a few lines. If you can't be bothered editing the message you are replying to, don't bother sending - laziness on your own part equates to over 800 people having to page through stuff they've read before. If you are adding fewer lines than you are quoting it's probably not worth sending either. * Don't comment on what is or isn't a "good mail" to the list, and the nature of content on the list please: comments such as "you shouldn't have posted that, it's not on-topic" or "I think we should be able to talk about ... and it's none of your business to stop us". These kind of discussions about mailing lists on mailing lists are as old as the hills and go round and round - any attempt to "improve" list content inevitably results in an increasingly tedious well-trod path or "yes we can", "no you can't" and the list always gets worse. Mails about list content are not considered a valid subject for this list, and I will put a stop to such if I see them starting. The correct response if you see postings you don't like is: (a) mail the sender politely and with panache, explaining why, and/or (b) mail me and let me know. If I get a few comments on a particular thread on the list I will always act to make it work for the majority of people; plus it makes me feel wanted. * Don't send number games/quizzes/petitions/jokes to the list please. Put a bit of yourself into your posts. * If you really need some information on something that other people may not want to know, please make sure you remember to tell people not to mail back to the list, but to you personally. If you think others might be interested, say you will post a summary of the mails you received. And, erm, do it. * Don't use the list for private mail to 5 people you know. Please help my server stay unclogged so this list can survive. * Don't send lists of your favourite bands/films or anything to the list, and don't join in if someone else asks people to. This is the plague of mailing lists the world over: lists of "things I like" are usually completely useless the other end, and usually mean they want you to know how tasteful they are :) If you want to talk about bands you like, tell us why. * People will talk about a book or film or song or sandwich filling they love or hate. That's fine - but please don't just say "it's great" or "it's crap". Say why. Just because a lot of people tell me they get fed up with these. * Please don't send messages with attachments to the list. This may not be junk to you but there's still lots of people out there who don't use mail programs that know how to deal with anything but standard text. And please remember some of us use Unix etc. as a principle platform and so attachments in proprietary formats (like Microsoft Word) will just be plain unreadable. If anyone wants to share material that isn't in standard text format, or that's of significant size, that's fine - just send it to me and I will post it up on the WWW site. That way people get to choose to download it... * Don't fling any old message to the list or treat it like email to a few friends - it just doesn't translate on a massive scale and people will get irritated. Think before you send. The drill is: compose your message - hover your hand over the send button for 10 seconds - think: "would Cliff Richard send this?" - send. Hints 17. What is "Tigermilk" / what other recordings are there / who is in the band etc etc? This list of answers doesn't cover any of that - it's just guidelines for using the list itself. You can imagine that question like these get asked and answered all the time. There's a set of answers to questions like these on the record company site at: http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/faq/index.htm Please make sure you read these if you're new before posting your question. 18. Can someone record me a CDR, MD, MP3 of Tigermilk or another B&S release? Members of staff of Belle and Sebastian's record company Jeepster pop in and out of the list. They are a business and have stated their position many times: they are happy for people to exchange analogue tape copies of B&S recordings, including Tigermilk, but draw the line at anything in a digital format. This includes CDRs, minidisc recordings, and MP3 files on the Internet, and if they hear about people exchanging such formats, they often choose to contact the sender. So, just as a warning, if you go mentioning it on the list, you'll probably get a letter from them. People forget lists are public forums anyone can read. This is the position Jeepster take, in accordance with their own polices, and is a matter for them, too often discussed on the list: it just leads to acrimony and the whole debate on the list one more time. If you want to talk about the ethics of it, make sure you've read through everything anyone has said about it and have something startlingly new to say. Please also note that Jeepster's position is their own, not mine, and has nothing to do with the running of this list. It also doesn't mean I approve or disapprove of what they do. 19. I've found a shop selling CDR bootlegs... See above. If you tell people on the list, then Jeepster have been know to write them a nasty solicitor's letter. And remember that commercially produced bootlegs are usually poorly done, with no love for the music, and mean you're just giving more cash to some criminal who'll go off and spend it on Celine Dion LPs for his mum. Don't do it. 20. Hey I've found out Belle and Sebastian are releasing a single / playing a gig and no-one's mentioned it yet, I'm going to tell everyone... Well you may be right, but it's pretty likely you're not. There seems to be masses of people/shops out there who "know" about release dates/gigs before the band or record company do. To save everyone going out and booking plane tickets, I'd suggest you mail Jeepster to check before you post to the list. About the list 21. Who provides this list? Who says I can't do what I want on it? The resources to run this list are provided by me and it is not a guaranteed public service - I will do whatever is necessary to ensure its continued existence. If you want a completely unrestrained list where anyone can talk for weeks about anything, there are other lists which advertise themselves as unmoderated; or if you want a more constrained list that is moderated or band news only, then I'm afraid you'll have to go elsewhere too. Or indeed you can go off and make your own list: that's what the Internet's for. I'm hoping I can keep this list going on the resources I have - but if it impacted too much I might have to withdraw it one day. To ensure it continues therefore it isn't a public resource in quite the same way a newsgroup is. So please be nice, be aware of who you're sending messages too, remember the list rules, and be public-spirited. 22. What has the list got to do with Jeepster, the record company? Nothing formally at all. The list isn't here to promote Jeepster, or indeed the band really, and we don't have to say only nice things about either of them. Courtesy is required though. I'm making these points just to say that it's a separate, strictly non-commercial meeting place - if you want fan club or record company comment then go straight to Jeepster. 23. Do the band read the list? The answer is pretty much: yes, sporadically. The band have an office in Glasgow and a few members get Internet access elsewhere and they keep up with it on and off when it's interesting. Please don't let that inhibit anyone from saying anything - remember it's your list, not anyone elses. And don't expect an answer from the band to a query on the list - it's pretty unlikely. Mail them direct from the link to the band WWW pages on the Sinister top page. 24. Why bother with all this? Lists of frequently asked questions like this are usually formal and stuffy affairs so a personal note: I am a grumpy thirty-something who still refuses to listen to Eric Clapton or moan how good music was when he was 16 - it's hard though when we're surrounded by so much mediocrity, but we shouldn't kid ourselves it was any different 15 years ago. But when I heard Belle and Sebastian I jumped for joy at a band with genuine musical sense, charm, toughness and POPness. So this is still all about music. 25. What sort of presents can I send to Honey to show my love? A very good question - honey of course, rude postcards or silly little toys. _________________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Jan 9 01:55:46 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:55:46 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Tube Boob Message-ID: <200001082056_MC2-93CE-7707@compuserve.com> Hi Born-again Sinisterians, Just to confirm that Friday's Tube was an hour-long programme edited from the 2-hour programme edited from the first 3-hour programme and was therefore obviously a B&S-free zone. So I guess we'll have to wait until the release of NRIAC to hear Stevie going all George Harrison on Beyond The Sunrise. Perhaps Belle and Sebastian could do a concert for Bangladesh? Increase the Peace, Keep it Real, Respect, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.waggner at xxx.net Sun Jan 9 14:42:56 2000 From: m.waggner at xxx.net (Michele Waggner) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 09:42:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: new home, new year Message-ID: <000f01bf5aaf$d2b028c0$60aa4f0c@amstech> I see that once again Mr. Moore has brought up body parts for our edification... when will the Enforcer be going around to Chelmsford to get a picture of these boobs of David's? Starry, apparently under the influence of her original New Year's resolution which was to drink as much as possible, said, >Michele will you tell us about Classic Rock please? I thought about this. My thoughts were varied and went from "Pearls before swine? Oh hardly" (because I never listened to them much to be honest), to "Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it." And I thought of Tim Hopkins and how he'd feel if Classic Rock had a rebirth, and again I was torn, between the visions of Tim's pain or Tim's pleasure. They're so close, aren't they, pleasure and pain? Anyway, Classic rock was back when I truly was "young Michele" -- before I dropped an extra "L" from my name and became an ignorant bitch -- and I finally thought that perhaps I will make a Classic Rock Compilation Tape for Miss Starry, in three volumes: "Sex," "Drugs" and "Rock 'n' Roll" -- perhaps "Boobs" Moore will mail me privately and consult -- I wasn't very knowlegeable about that glam hair rock period :) So, the list has a new home for the new millennium -- we've been through a lot over the years, Honeymum packing up our belongings putting us into the caravan and getting us to our new homes safe and sound. We're quite lucky to have such a protective and smart mummy... sheltering us from the storms that have threatened us over the years. Let's get to work painting and decorating our new home to make it cosy... what color do you think? If we leave it to mummy it will be pink pink pink. Belated Happy New Year, Sinister... --chele +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Archel1978 at xxx.com Sun Jan 9 16:40:18 2000 From: Archel1978 at xxx.com (Archel1978 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:40:18 EST Subject: Sinister: a man, a plan, a canal, panama Message-ID: <6b.6b97178a.25aa13f2@aol.com> just wanted to wait until i had a good opening before posting. my sister spent new year on top of a bus shelter with some naked men. there. as for me, i was in gorgeous glasgow with gorgeous ***** (yes, i do have a new sweetheart, and yes i am a brazen hussy), watching the sun rise, sleeping all day and utterly fucking up my circadian rhythms for a good few weeks. went to a northern soul all-nighter on the 2nd which turned into a warped cinderella/werewolf style nightmare: all fine and great until about 3am, then i turned into sleep-deprived monster from hell and started growling at the boyfriend and giving the evil eye to anyone who so much as thought about treading on my toes, before collapsing in a corner to wait for the first bus home (not until 8am, sadly.) also watched 'the umbrellas of cherbourg' again. it's dead good, you know. i wish my outfits reliably matched the wallpaper, it must give such a sense of belonging. on the other hand it's perhaps not the main thing on your mind if your boyfriend's left you up the duff, you're being wooed by a moustacioed (sp?) jewel merchant, *and* you have to sing in tune even when you're just ordering coffee. i was transfixed by the tube, despite the awfulness of 98% of it. struan looked like a hedgehog caught in headlights, and still managed to sing like an angel. quite an achievement. maybe they should have imported robbie williams' lap dancers to b&s's set, just to get him really disconcerted. mind you, isobel's sexy whistling gave them a run for their (underwear-stored) money anyway. tigermilking on friday was the usual feast of fun, with mark continuing his valiant efforts to get people to dance to kate rusby. but inevitably it was britney spears who proved the real floor filler. later, kevan, liz and pam had the sensible idea of saving energy by emulating the gregory's girl horizontal dancing thing, and i wandered through london in the rain trying to find a bus home. (finally got in at 7am - 'cause, hey, that's the kind of crayzzeee girl i am.) and to coincide with sinister getting a new home, i'm getting one too. yes, i have finally bitten the bullet and am due to move out of my gran's house and into a brand new abode in brighton in 2 weeks time. i'll be sharing with a train driver. how cool is that? 'buzzwords' is coming on nicely now, but i still need creative nuggets for it if anyone would care to oblige. # un cafe au lait/ s'il vous plait.# a bientot, archel xxx ps: that cockney vampire on buffy said 'wanker' last night. it was so funny i nearly dropped several stitches. pps: 'alot' as in dividing up spoils is spelt with two 'l's, nick. there's room for more than one pedant around here, you know. ********** Rachel Playforth archel at iname.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian at xxx.uk Sun Jan 9 16:59:37 2000 From: ian at xxx.uk (ian) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 16:59:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: the sleeper from the black lagoon Message-ID: <000201bf5ac3$183df760$5e84883e@default> so many things, my twinklettes, so many things... for those of you who don't remember me (probably at least 1099 of this 1100 member list) a short introduction is in order... i am ian -surnameless ian, pop-star kidnapper, elvis impersonator, gay dirty den and creator of the pottery pterodactyl. (speaking of which, my baby seems to have gone quiet...could i please recall it and send it flying off to sarah clarke.. thankyou) well, as the real dirty den met his match, so did the gay dirty den... fortunately it was not in an exploding bunch of daffodils but in a broken computer. unlike my predecessor, i was able to climb out of the virtual canal..i am a little covered in pondweed, rather smelly, and in need of a good conditioner but i feel the draw of sinister too strongly to take time to wash. some of you may remember the "pick a belle and sebastian album title" competition from october. the entries are being examined and i shall select a winner shortly... the prize? a night with bonnie langford, or whatever i find in poundworld, its your choice.. i have some news...i am expecting jesse spencer's baby! yes, its true. the eagle-eyed amongst you might have noticed that the irresistable billy from neighbours was appearing in panto in wolverhampton. well, let's just say that he couldn't resist a nice boy when he saw one. unfortunately, i was not that boy and had to hold him down while i climbed astride... oh, you're people of the world, i can stop there. anyway, the next night an australian angel of the lord came to me and sweetly intoned "rejoice, for though art to bear the child of the lord of sex..the lord has given graciously" well, at first i thought he meant richard whitely... actually, it might be richard whitely's baby. there was that moment in dudley station toilets.. i swear i only did it because he said he'd get me carol vorderman's knickers... bastard never did. gyles brandreth's jockstrap is NO substitute.. well, onto other things....recently somebody screamed "what the buggery bollocks is going on with bowlie!?!" or words to that effect. and no-one replied. i take it this means you're all as in the dark as i am. last thing i heard mogwai were organising it and expecting isaac hayes to play. seems a little unlikely to me. much as i love arab strap, i find it a little hard to believe that mr shaft is going to come all the way to camber to perform with them. having said that, they could put anyone on and i'd go along. i suspect that's what foundation are relying on. other things...will the person who was posting as barbie please do it again. ailsa ross, slap the back of your hand...five minutes between your posts is too long, let alone five months... erm.. there was more but now there isn't. so that seems like a good place to stop. love, hugs and secret illicit fumblings.. gay dirty ian (the elvis thing was a lie) ------------------------------------- "dreams are just like wine and i am drunk on mine" mama cass +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Sun Jan 9 18:01:17 2000 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 13:01:17 EST Subject: Sinister: Please let me wonder... Message-ID: <47.47908ce9.25aa26ed@aol.com> Wow, its been ages since you've last seen the likes of me around these parts. About a month ago I ran out of things to say, and although this problem still lingers I've decided to override it and post anyway 'cause I'm dead bored. I hope everyone's holidays were nice. My friend left for Italy on a school trip a few days after Christmas, so I'm sure his New Years was good. I spent mine sucking on a huaka and a keg with a few friends, which was nice and all but its the same thing I do every weekend. I kind of wanted to bring in 2000 in a different way than I bring in every other Saturday morning, but it was not to be. While my friend sat somewhere in Rome hopefully having the time of his life with a young Tuscan blonde as the ball dropped, I listened to "Alan Alda's Millenium Phonecall" which for some reason was broadcasted across the globe. You can't win them all I suppose...but ALAN ALDA?! I changed majors at the university this week. I had been planning to major in history for as long as I care to remember, but I eventually grew out of that. Now I'm an Environmental Science major, which I suppose is about as far from history as one can get these days. I'm betting that the Chesapeake Bay is going to be a goldmine for Environmental Scientists in the next few decades, so why not capitalize on that? It beats sitting in stuffy historical societies trying to peice together events that happened hundreds of years ago while your own generation falls apart. Billy Corgan once said that looking either backward or forward was a way of avoiding the present, and I guess he's right to some degree. Then again, he wrote Starla so I guess anything the man says should be taken as a revelation. I kinda like the idea of this new B&S package, especially because we can all buy the cases and not have to double up the discs. I'd like to see the cover art too. They've done blue, red, yellow, white, magenta, green and orange as album colors so I wonder whats they've cooked up now? I'm guessing purple...anyone else care to chance? Anyone know whether the discs will be the same ones we all have or whether they will have different art as well? Did any UK listees catch Guided by Voices when they came over a few months ago? I know they did a few nights in London in either Sept or Oct. Well, the Terps game is on...later Steve C. PS- George Dickie: Wario is my new MarioKart man. I think its either for the way he yells "Fire!" or "Waaaaaaa!" or a combination of both. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Which Paul?" "BLAH!" visit http://callowkids.tripod.com or your crush will hate you forever +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dchard at xxx.ca Sun Jan 9 21:48:12 2000 From: dchard at xxx.ca (ipecac spice) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 17:48:12 -0400 (AST) Subject: Sinister: the beginning of the end Message-ID: hello all. it's so nice to have this new home. spain was nice. how did you find it kat? the only problem was that my family nearly killed each other (ourselves?) but after a few days we mellowed out a bit. also i am not a fan of seafood nor veal. this was sometimes a problem. i ate lots of french fries. it was sad to come home a nd discover that it had just snowed. i also felt like a terrible evil tourist as i could not remember any spanish from the course i took several years ago. i tried to speak to people as little as possible. i got my belle and sebastian badges the day before i left. they now adorn my bags but no one has commented on them yet. sadly at work we are no longer allowed to bring in our own music, so no more belle nd sebastian to brighten the long boring days. tomorrow marks the beginning of the last term of classes for me for my undergrad degree. it scares me a lot. i feel old much of the time. my best friend growing up (who is no longer my best friend on account of her not being a very nice person) got engaged to be married over christmas! i wish i could enjoy my youth more because i know that when i'm truly old i will look back at myself now and feel cheated. anyway. i could really ramble on for a long long time. wallowing about my boyfriend leaving for workterm for 4 months. insulting the person who actually thought magnolia was good. it was a tedious frustrating pretentious piece of bullshit. don't waste your time. only 2 redeeming moments...ok. i'm done. happy new year everyone. -di "i respect those who have faith even though they are ignorant" -hemingway +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nelle at xxx.se Sun Jan 9 21:39:58 2000 From: nelle at xxx.se (Ellen) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 23:39:58 +0200 Subject: Sinister: of owls and such Message-ID: <38790007.BF7@hem.passagen.se> hiya all i watched a cartoon on tv the other day, one of the cutest i ever saw, actually. i think our own jenowl would like it too, since it was about this owl called fritz being an expert on music - just classical music, though. absolutely no jazz. and when he and his owl-wife had four little baby-owls one sang like caruso, one played the violin and one the flute. but the fourth one wore a tight red jacket and jammed; "i love to singa.." and he did this little cute dance, waving his wings. his father didn't accept him 'til he got to sing on the forest radio. poor thing. anyway. my listcrush unsubcribed over christmas. i miss the smell of him. i have to confess that i havn't been listening to b&s that much lately. mainly cause my dad bought me a john lennon collection for christmas- "beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful boy.." and if you remember the irish boy who i was to visit in london but never got in touch with since he'd gone to poland over night - he's finally returned from the dead. yes! and as gertrude put it: "dear hamlet - cast thy coloured nightie off, and let thine eye look like a friend on denmark.." hu? ; ) *love* /ellen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Sun Jan 9 23:30:44 2000 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:30:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: if either one of us could drive... Message-ID: <20000109233044.14186.qmail@web106.yahoomail.com> [ree yawns. rubs her eyes. swings her feet out of bed and stumbles toward the door. opens it...] where am i? i don't think we're in sinisterland anymore... oh, we've moved. hmmm. [looks around.] needs a little paint (and what's wrong with pink, michele? :)) and maybe some spider plants (cuz you can't kill those) but i think it'll do. maddest props to honey for getting us through near-disaster #2 for the year. does this count as this year? right right. christmas came and went. new years involved merlot and tropico, a little champagne, and some polaroids. do yrselves a favor and hide from the kid at the party with the polaroid camera, because chances are he's staying sober just so he can capture yr drunken arse on film. nothing like finding a stack of polaroids on the kitchen counter the next morning. oh dear. my dears -- Actual B&S Content Ahead! warning! warning! .... i spent this weekend in boston with my best friend, whose nickname is bean, so it's appropriate that she lives in "beantown." anyway... friday night we headed to the upstairs lounge only to be out-styled by all the pretty kids in boston. but we danced and danced, and we were about to leave when the dj put on some pizzicato 5, and so we danced some more. and then... and then... like a whisper, the first strains... "summer in winter, winter in springtime..." struan's lovely voice drifted over the croud, dispelling the smoke and causing at least one girl (who was Not Me, incidentally) to jump on her friend and scream with joy. i merely sang along and danced around like it was my own little party. why the dj picked that short little song, i don't know. but new order came next, so the dj still gets props. and then... and then... the next day, bean and i wandered around boston, peeking in record stores and stationary stores... and we hit up a newbury comics, and as we perused the records, the beginning of "the state i am in" seeped through the speakers... they were playing all of tigermilk, and i tried to get my friend to stay at the store for the whole thing, but we only made it through "i could be dreaming" because the longer we stayed the closer we were getting to justifying buying more records... i had sworn to buy only one, and since she had snatched up the only copy of the lucksmiths' "good kind of nervous" earlier that week, i ended up getting operation heavenly. mmmm, belle&sebastian in public twice in two days! boston must be magic. even if they don't have tigermilking nights. now i am safe and sound in my little new york town, and i am happy to be all moved into our new sinister home. i've given up on being wary about the new album (what with all this talk of non-stuartM tracks) and i've just gotten plain impatient. i'll have to busy myself with the records i splurged on from parasol the other day -- nothing like material substitution for real love and happiness, eh? xoxo, marie ===== ******************************************************* "I was a proper snob in college, as only a future lifetime English major can be" - b. glass "to me she was just marie." -mersault ******************************************************* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Mon Jan 10 07:32:26 2000 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 23:32:26 PST Subject: Sinister: Your telly sucks! Message-ID: <20000110073226.45199.qmail@hotmail.com> Wouldn't it be great if your girlfriend/boyfriend would be called Telly? ha. Hello, goodbye, my blueberrypie... Yes, it's me, back to the neverending cycle that is called "dullness". Now, I know what you're going to say: "People under the stairs." You're weren't going to say that? Bugger. How about "My petsheep says baaaa when she's in a bad mood." Not that either? What the hell are you thinking about, then? Hmmm... Went out this weekend, as I usually do. Saw this person who's sort of a friends friend. Now, she's nice and all. She likes our band (Bay City Rollers, that is), she's groovy, she's hip etc. But I have absolutely nothing to talk about with her. Ok, on saturday we talked about B&S. That's all we talk about. Ever. She had bought "3,6,9 seconds..." two weeks ago. Me: "You like it?" She: "Yeah, I think it's the best they've ever done." Me: "Yeah, it is." Silence. Me: "So..." She: "So... You know about the new album?" Me: "Should come out this spring." She: "Oh." Silence. Me: "Hmmm..." She: "Yeah..." I could go on and on. For five minutes we stood there going "erm..." and "hmmm..." and "so..." and "Dippety whippety whippy..." and other things you sort of say when you have nothing to say. Did that make any sense? The point is, it's not nice to talk with someone when you have a) nothing in common b) nothing to say c) a huge lobster in your pocket that is reching for your balls. Not sure about the last one, but so I've heard. Ooh, saw the new Pantene ad on television yesterday. "You& me song" by da Wannadies on the backgound. Fucking hell. It used to be so that when I heard that song it reminded me of the good ol' days. Now on I'll be thinking about my curly hair and the lack of it when I get a bit older. My daddy started to lose his hair when he was 23. So I've got... 8 months to go. �sob� (If there's people here who are losing hair, please don't be offended. I know that you are good and loving people all, even though you look like Krusty the clown. Sorry, that's not very politically correct. I'll shut the hell up now.) What's the most "softest" curseword you can think of? Cottontoe. Go on, say it. Oh, I don't mind you're in a library/work and people will stare at you. Just say it. I know you want to. Cottontoe. "You silly ol' cottontoe!" Like it, don't you? If any girl would want to offend me and would spit that out of her mouth I'd want to please her orally. If you made it this far, let me tell you: I adore you. @--->---- Jake le PetitE, who's off to the dentist today. If I don't make it, you all can share my cd's. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Mon Jan 10 09:31:40 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 01:31:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Cheer me up.... Message-ID: <20000110093140.8112.qmail@web601.mail.yahoo.com> urgh. Urgh again. Urgh and urgh again and again and again. Guess what? I have flu. I reckon there is definately a flu epedemic. We shouldn't rely upon NHS figures, cos I bet theres many people like me who can't be arsed waiting in a nasty wee doctors waiting room to be told "its the flu. Its a virus. go home, rest, take paracetamol and plenty of fluids". I reckon when I'm ill, I must have a male hormone inside me somewhere, even though I'm a girl. Cos I like to parade around, feeling sorry for myself and whinging to anyone who'll listen. I hate being ill. hot cold hot cold hot cold. I take baths to get my body temperature the same for a while, and to stop my limbs from aching. I'm ill. But clean as a whistle. where did that saying come from anyway? my thoughs are incoherent and I can't focus properly. I can't sleep. I have bizarre dreams. I want a cuddle. I'm a soppy thing today. I wish my boyfriend was here. Or I was there. Hes at the other side of the country at the moment working. I just want to snuggle up in his arms, rest my head on his chest and fall asleep in front of the telly. I miss him. Why is it, when I go to bed, I have my hair looking sleek and cute, but when I wake up, Dot Cottons stylist has snuck into my room and given me her look? I want a poncho. I went to a gig on Thursday. El Hobre Trajeado at the 13th Note Cafe in Glasgow. It was ace. I got the album, "skipafone" the next day. I'm not always so inspired. Honey said something about you lot all trying to get into each others pants? I've heard this before from other sinisterians. So, who has the best pants? And who has the worst? I got some new pants on Saturday. And some socks. And the flu. My mum had a poncho. she knitted it herself. its yellow, and perhaps in the loft. Or in Norway in a loft. My mum is Norwegian. I want her poncho. I can't go in the loft though. I'm scared of heights and I get dizzy after only climbing up two steps on the ladder. But i didn't get scared staying in those top floor rooms in hotels in the summer in glasgow. My mum looked cool in the 70's. I wish she'd saved her clothes. She had a lovely fitted brown suede jacket with patches on it that I've only seen pictures of. She was so pretty. My mum told me on Saturday she used to live on Byres Road. I never knew that. Heck, I never realised she actually lived in Glasgow. I knew she used to work there though. I want her poncho. I want a cuddle. Why am I feeling so odd right now? have you ever typed something and wondered about it? like, I know my mum isn't on this list. Nor does she care for B+S. Shes never heard them. Shes not into the internet. But what if she read this? she'd certainly guess I was her daughter. what would she do? or say? Someone sort out my head. The state that I am in. arf arf arf. my throat is sore. my ears hurt. I want a cuddle. If I won the lottery right now, I reckon I'd put it towards funding the ulitmate cure for flu. I'd have to start playing first. blimey, I just got deja vu. Strange things have been happening. I got a letter on Saturday. It was addressed to me, but it was my handwriting. I opened it up. I had created a DIY letter for a friend three years ago, so that he would bother to reply to my letters. All he had to do was tick the boxes. And plop it in the self addressed envelope I provided. And now, he sends it back to me. He must have moved three or four times since I sent it to him. And he still had it. I replied to his letter. Hes moving in March you see. If I didn't do it now, it would never get done. I have funny dreams. And I have become fed up with irn Bru. I've drunk it all morning and I can't bare the taste of it. Makes me feel sick. Do you want to know the best drink in the world? O-Boy. you can buy it at IKEA. I used to drink gallons of the stuff when I was a baby chipmunk. I really need a cuddle. if my boyfriend Mark bothers to read this, get your arse back up to Scotland and nurse me better and give me a cuddle. Please? Snuggle me back to health. Or send me flowers. Blokes should send more flowers. It says so in John Gray's "Men are from Mars, women are from venus". An entire chapter about how to score points with women. And for all the randy male sinisterians out there wanting to get into girls pants, I reccomend it as a useful guide. SEND FLOWERS! I'm tired. I think I'll go and watch some non taxing telly and worry about my exams next week. Wish me luck. Love and strepsils, Idleberry ===== visit the idle site:www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/5117 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickkinsella at xxx.uk Mon Jan 10 12:02:39 2000 From: nickkinsella at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Nick=20Kinsella?=) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:02:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Its the end of the whirled as we know it(and I feel fine) Message-ID: <20000110120239.29055.qmail@web1402.mail.yahoo.com> Dear friends, Umm, hi. Just left the nursery. A bit nervous, you know. First contact and all that. Everyone seems really nice though, friendly. Honey seems grand, too. What to say. Happy New Year, everyone. Bit late, though. Sorry. Errmm. Best say something profound, then leave. Alright then: Populism is Unthinking. There. Still here, though. Christmas was nice, Claire (wife) and me spent it on our own. Joe (brother) visited a bit. Just packed his wifetobe off on a plane to Zimbabwe for 8 months (she works there). Played him B&S songs to console him (B&S content, hurrah!). Still tough on him, though. New Year, nothing special. Just quiet, really. A few friends round, a few laments. Back at uni now. Hope I'll be here more often, but exams and that, you know. Take care everyone. God Bless. Paddyorkie *and then, after a while, they left, and all that remained was beauty, silent and bereft* ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Mon Jan 10 13:19:45 2000 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:19:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm never going to be electable Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000110131945.007031dc@ampsys.co.uk> Dear all, It's a funny old world isn't it? But how can it not be with the likes of Les Dennis and Brian Conley amongst us? Where would we be without Les Dennis? I shudder to think. But only cause it hurts so. I'm presently suffering from a lack of sleep, probably because of the haunting visions I've been having since David Moore recounted tales of his wearing a boob tube. It's not an entirely unpleasant thought it's just not something you really want to take to bed with you if you want any sleep. I don't think that sentance turned out quite as I meant it. Freud eh? What did he know about slips. I bet Mr Moore's got many more women's undergarments than he ever had. Anyway onto other things, Tigermilking was much fun again if I remember rightly, so big ups to Mark, Sam, Kevan, Stevie, Lucy, Starry and Lixi. Almost enough DJ's to from a top pop group. Maybe. It was also very pleasant to see the charismatic Alastair down in the Big Smoke again with his quaint dialectal mumblings. And can I continue the "Ask Michelle corner" about Jefferson Airplane and other similar bands? As I finally got the double CD 2400 Fullton Street for Christmas, I've got most of the tracks already but it's a lovely orange package, a bit like a fine mature Red Leicester. Admittedly it was a present from me but luckily I already knew Santa didn't exist, and I'd like more info about hippy shit please Michelle. And obviously this is not just to annoy someone who turned down booze for a snooze on a Saturday night. Sorry, I've realised that I've probably confused many people with the line Santa doesn't exist, it's really OK kids he probably does exist he just doesn't visit me as I like hippy music. It's a fair cop really. Silly me. I really thought I had nothing to say. Te ra, Martin ear confection recordings (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) P.S Massive props go out to Jam Sandwich, Killah!, Monster and Muncher. Actually, I really fancy some crisps now. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vibrosheep at xxx.net Mon Jan 10 13:57:08 2000 From: vibrosheep at xxx.net (vibrosheep at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:57:08 Subject: Sinister: She had a poke at the age 13 Message-ID: <200001101357.NAA05900@mailhost.vivao.net> Miss Honey asked... >Did anyone in the UK watch "Digby The Biggest Dog In The World" over >Christmas on TV? Nope, but does bring back wonderful, if not slightly politically incorrect, memories of Exeter school days. Digby was in fact in the seventies the name of the local funny farm, and so with great disrespect to some of Exeters more colourful characters, they became known as Digbies. The application of this term was obviously widened to any child who showed any signs of learning difficulties. Oh school days eh ? Is it any wonder we all have complexes..WHAT? It's just me??? Our very own lovely Feather Dastoor mentioned the snippet in Select in WH Smiths....Well, I have it on a very reliable sauce that the whole band appear in a full-frontal pose in the latest edition of Mayfair gentlemans magazine. Honest, you go down your local newsagents and give it a scan tonight. I'm always looking through those quality publications for a glimpse of our favourite alcoholics. TOPSHELFARAMA. Bollocks to you then. Adrian xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Mon Jan 10 15:13:10 2000 From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:13:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: A story about a fish Message-ID: It seems like Christmas is the time of year for pets to swim, hop, and flutter their ways up to pet heaven. St Bernard, patron saint of pets has been found knocking on our door recently, or rather the bowl of my sister's little goldfish, Bob. You see, no sooner had I arrived home for Crimbo than I found Bob had died, tragically, in a car crash. Bob was swimming in his special travelling bowl, which has a lid with holes in it and used to contain mint humbugs. The bowl was on the passenger seat of my sister's boyfriend's car who was taking her stuff home. Bob was happy, just swimming about and spotting lorries out of the window. Then suddenly, the car in front stopped and they crashed into it. It was just a bump and Will, the driver, didn't even graze his knee, but looking at the bowl he saw Bob, floating motionless at the top. He'd have tried to recussitate it but gills are a job for a specialist, so little Bob was left to pop his tiny little clogs in peace. Special clogs, for fins I suppose. My sister's last fish, Trevor, only lived for two weeks and spent the whole time swimming upside down and turning a funny shade of grey, so I suppose compared to this Bob lived an eventful life, at least. I don't know if anyone saw it, but when I was reading a magazine at my Grandad's house I saw an advert for a program called 'Inner Tube' which was supposed to be behind the scenes of the Apocalypse Tube, on ITV. I think it was meant to be on Friday. But when I got home and looked in the paper there it didn't mention it. So now don't know if I was imagining it or not. Did anyone else see this program? Or was grandad's magazine actually a 'specialist publication' and I hadn't noticed? Inner tubes, eh? When the crowd say 'bo' Robin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cbrown2 at xxx.com Mon Jan 10 15:38:57 2000 From: cbrown2 at xxx.com (cbrown2 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:38:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Achilles heel? I've got an achilles body Message-ID: <86256862.005609B4.00@em-stpmta-01.mmm.com> Hello everybody, this is my first post and I'm lacking in inspiration but I've been lurking for a while so I thought I ought to send something to all you lovely people. Hmmm where to start? Myname's Chris and I'm currently working in London at being a very small fish in a very big pond. I already know some of you through the tape tree (I told you I'd been lurking) and probably bumped into quite a few of you at Tigermilking on Friday. I was celebrating my birthday (don't ask let's just say late twenties) and was very, very drunk so I'm sorry if I accidentally bumped into you or stumled in your general direction leering (oh yeah, I just remembered, if the girl who snogged my friend Alex is out there, what was that bloomin' writing on the back of your little note? None of us have degrees in ancient languages). Thanks to Mark and the others for playing some lovely tunes and I'm sorry if I pestered you for obscure stuff. Anyway, I have to put in some B&S gubbins don't I? I did have a strange occurrence over Christmas when I went to see my mummy and not so baby anymore sister, I managed to sneak Tigermilk onto the car stereo only to be greeted with lines such as "hmmmm, this isn't really your cup of tea is it? It's not all noisy and shouty" Am I wrong to find that irritating and then be even more freaked out when my mum said "it's quite nice isn't it" and my sister asked if she have a copy, along with the low christmas album and smog. Strange days indeed as a fat bloated misogynist once warbled. Anyroad up must go, love and hugs to you all Chris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Mon Jan 10 15:57:32 2000 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (Angel Blackwell) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:57:32 EST Subject: Sinister: poor little lobster Message-ID: <20000110155732.13045.qmail@hotmail.com> I would like to post a personal apology to the lobster I ate on Saturday night. It was a happy little thing, swimming around, playing lobster games. In walks one sister little angel, who is slightly sloshed, and well you can guess what happened. He's having his revenge on me though. Has has made me very ill and I deserve it. It's been years since I've eaten meat, and it will be a very long time til I do it again. I finally got 3..6...9 seconds of light. I'm all happy. My collection is almost complete. Okay it's not but I wanna look kewl anyway. Oh yeah, I want all you little torontonian sinsterites to email me. I miss you all dearly and feel that we should do another little get together. My little kitten, Etta, says she misses you too. I would post on that board thingy but for some reason my firewall here has forbidden me to look at it...must be that body parts page... love and squishes a. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cdarwin at xxx.uk Mon Jan 10 20:58:56 2000 From: cdarwin at xxx.uk (Miss Cressida Jane Darwin) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:58:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: new, nouveau, neu, etc..... Message-ID: hello! i'll be very surprised if i ever see this e-mail again as my computer has a very creative little sense of humour when it comes to messaging people. although i now know several people on the bbc news team because of it (don't ask). i am new, but especially observant people may recognise the name, as andrew dean kindly enabled me to make a special guest appearance sometime back wittering on about beanz' djing skills (skillz). fortunately i recovered. the tube appearance was good but short, surely some outakes should be forthcoming, (perhaps an It'll Be Alright on the Night appearance?). i think the pod 2000 will also go far... i'm enjoying our tapetree and making some excellent compilations out of this. it makes up for the imaginative Christmas presents. What I Wanted: Original Tigermilk and portable record player. What I Got: Juggling balls. (sweet jesus!) it's nice to finally talk to you as well as read you. hope you excuse the formal full name line. i cannot get this thing to behave. cress ----------------------------------- Cressida Darwin c.darwin at sghms.ac.uk St. Georges Hospital Medical School Opinions expressed those of the author and not the institution +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From unloveable_ at xxx.com Mon Jan 10 19:14:15 2000 From: unloveable_ at xxx.com (angela i hate my last name) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:14:15 CST Subject: Sinister: beauty school drop out Message-ID: <20000110191415.28635.qmail@hotmail.com> yes i am a beauty school drop out, a highschool drop out, and now a sinister drop out... but i did go and get my g.e.d. atleast and i certinly enjoy sinister more than school, god knows i have learned more here than in school. you see i am moving once again, i feel like a nomad.... so when i get my phone serviced turned on(i owe the phone company a bit of mooohla) and once i get my computer back from my mum, then i swear on my sinister soul to resubscribe if any of you would like to write me privatly i will do my best to return your letters, or you can reach me on i.c.q.#47995388 mabey when i am right on my feet i will throw a little pawdy and all south-eastern listees whoo feel like driving to chattanooga or any one eles for that matter, are all welcome to come... well be good kids, i'll miss you all love & hugs Angela ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Mon Jan 10 19:52:18 2000 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (Owen Lowery) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 19:52:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: as if by magic an old friend returns Message-ID: <387A3871.7556AB38@students.stir.ac.uk> Well I'm back at uni for a week or so with the intention of doing some of my dissertation so in order to avoiding having to actually do some work I thought I'd say hi to you lot. Christmass and new year were fun drunken times for me and and not very wide magic users throughout the globe and I've only been threatened with violence in my home town twice since I finished uni for the break so as you can imagine I'm in a pretty good mood (laast time I was home I got threatened twice and I was only there for 4 days so you can imagine how much better it is now) as you can see I have no real news so I'll go now but first I have to thank Ailsa (again) for giving me somewhere to stay when I was in Glasgow (again). thanks see you all soon owen (the narrow wizard) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox at xxx.com Mon Jan 10 21:35:33 2000 From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:35:33 GMT Subject: Sinister: tell you what Message-ID: <20000110213534.22758.qmail@hotmail.com> Heavens! I just saw several mails in a row about a 'Mr Hansen', Cor, I thought, this is one epistolary gravy bandwagon on whose caboose I'd better get. There ain't no stopping us now. Then I saw that they were about Beck. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Mon Jan 10 22:38:04 2000 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:38:04 EST Subject: Sinister: Prepare for trouble, yes and make it double.... Message-ID: I know it's not the first time i've said this, but my yet to mature mind really warms to Team Rocket out of Pokemon (with a little slash above the e). Hello Sinister-land. Is everyone happy in their new home? To be honest, I think it's much tweeer than the last one, though the lack of money-grabbing poo eaters trying to destroy our list might account for that. I've been reading, oh yes I have. Books about ships. Since ships are my new hobby. Ships, for all you who don't know, are big boats which float on water. And I've decided that I like them. Today "The Little Grey Rabbit" was on telly. It's very twee indeed and there was an owl in it. Also, I'd like to see the other programme someone mentioned about the owls. Which sounds very fun. I'm knitting a patchwork quilt now, and it's coming along nicely, when i can be bothered working on it. I once thought I might try rugby for a hobby, but it didn't work out, because I didn't like standing on people's necks to get a ball off of them. But I like watching other people do that on telly. It looks fun from there. I bought Looper's Y2K single last week when i was in glasgow. I also got a blue pinafore thing made of very weird material, because everything's cheap because it's January. I was at my gran's too, who lives in glasgow. But I just fell asleep on her bed, after dinner, because I didn't want to talk to people. My scanner's working, so I might send a photo of me to the sinister site.Then again, I might not. I'll end up with lots of mail telling me how ugly I am. I watched the tube. It was ok, but I didn't really like isobel's jacket much. Stuart Murdoch was looking a bit like the actor, Jamie Bamber. The song was bluddy good though. I'd better go and eat worms. Chocolate ones. Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Tue Jan 11 07:33:09 2000 From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:33:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: the future isn't always about foil mini skirts Message-ID: <20000111073309.18480.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Hi all you future stars of pop and circumnavigation, I just wanted to say I was in a bookstore the other day and spotted "Oral" (ed. Sarah-Jane Lovett (I may have her first name slightly wrong, sorry)). So finally I got to read some of Stuart David's prose: "Piano Window Piano". And quite liked it (though perhaps i'm a bit biased...) It's about a narrator (or stuart) thinking about being another person, a person who wrote a song sung by Elvis. So A)it's all postmodern-like and B)Elvis is mentioned and C)that's just the superdefinition of a good thing. I mean, at 11:26 on a Monday night anyway... On getting my ass kicked on sinister twice in a week: ow. i don't fcking care though b/c i'm a black leatha masochist w/ mulletude. beck was fun for new year's, i have no other opinion b/c i don't own any of his albums so i can't rightly say what else i think of his music. And magnolia,well, I just said what i felt. yum, pretentious is fun. I'm no critic and definitely not one for argument (yet somehow i keep writing about movies to sinister. it's a sad winter life, I think, requiring media media media. maybe it's the new glasses and the clear mouvee screen.) anyway, let the ass-kicking continue! Yeah, so it snowed in Vancouver last night. And then melted all day. Now the streets are treacherous (and i'm not even on them). I've binged on film and am now onto books again, trying to pace myself, but it's not working. Can't help but race through Haruki Murakami's "Hard Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World". Maybe it's my mood, but i'm finding it damn good. But isn't everything mood... erm. mm. ooh look, pink wafer cookies. i love me some red dye no.5. gotta go. i've become frequent and obsessive. sincerely yours in stumbling apology, Robyn but ps for coupland fans and those at all interested in whether west coast canada is different from the rest: "The city rewrites itself almost daily, and that's a big reason we love it here." - Douglas Coupland in jan/feb Vancouver magazine. I, um, er, okay... i may have to move to a less abstract place. i think what got edited out was "and also why we simultaneously hate it."... but, yet again, the value of contradiction goes unappreciated. ohwell. also, i don't really have a mullet. it's more of a squirrel stuck to the top of my head with glue. ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From qleoca at xxx.com Tue Jan 11 13:12:42 2000 From: qleoca at xxx.com (sara sebastiao) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 05:12:42 -0800 Subject: Sinister: I was given a voice... Message-ID: ...and I have to use it, but I dont really now what to say. First I should introduce myself: sara sebastiao, 21 years old, portuguese. I must say that Im a bit shy because the messages that I read were all so witty and I fear that... well, well see then. I first met belle and sebastian when I was 5 years old and we (me and my older brother)woke up at 8 oclock on Sundays to see this fantastic cartoon of an enormous white dog, belle and his young friend sebastian. So, when my boyfriend try to tell me about B&S I thought that he was inviting me for a ride down the memory lane. It was after a few explanations that I realized that he was talking about a band. Or should I say The band. Im a recent fan of B&S but Im trying to to fill in that flaw singing B&S songs all day and, of course, driving everyone else mad. Like Calvin (calvin & hobbes) I think I am a misunderstood soul. I think Im going to stop here and try to write again when my sanity returns from its long vacations qleoca --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Tue Jan 11 14:32:04 2000 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:32:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Don't read this mail if you're stupid. Message-ID: <387B3EE4.8FAE7DF7@cs.strath.ac.uk> Well spin my top, knock me down with a fork lift truck and call me Simon, that were a top weekend. Tigermilking had the advantage of starting at 8pm so I kept looking at my watch, thinking I'd been there for ages, and I had, and there was still ages to go! Always! Until it finished of course. I'm still filled with the memories of being continually taken from behind by Drunken Matt, who wrestled back his sobriquet which he almost relinquished to me a few months ago with a superb display of unsteadiness. Being followed by strange men, walking past shops with the windows newly smashed and avoiding street brawls with men screaming "NO, PLEASE NO! AARGH!" were also undoubted highlights. Hackney is such an up-and-coming area. I also managed to set a new record for tiredness, by combining no sleep in 44 hours, 5 hours of dancing and enormous amounts of alcohol to produce the desired effect. That of death. Fun though. The only depressing thing was being reminded by Alix Campbell that she's not on the list anymore, but we can't have everything in life, can we children? Mum Robinson: > I'd like > more info about hippy shit please Michelle. And obviously this is not just > to annoy someone who turned down booze for a snooze on a Saturday night. That was the man who had his name changed by deed poll to "public house" at the age of 18. Left me questioning my entire belief system, that did. I mean half past eight! Unfortunately I then made the mistake of reading his contributions to the last (not latest) edition of Papercuts, and was forced to forgive him. Damn. I was also reminded that Peter Miller is the dirtiest man in the universe. And I think I love him. Ian: > i have some news...i am expecting jesse spencer's baby! yes, its true. the > eagle-eyed amongst you might have noticed that the irresistable billy from > neighbours was appearing in panto in wolverhampton. well, let's just say > that he couldn't resist a nice boy when he saw one. My mum saw Live and Kicking (saturday morning kids tv show, non UK types) the other week, and Ian's latest lay was on it, and apparently his favourite singer is Jeff Buckley, which I would never have guessed. My mum was very pleased, because everyone on the show looked very confused, but she knew who he was! (He's the dead one, right?") Anyway, here's a story about a squirrel which I'm going to make up now cos I'm bored. One day, Toby the squirrel was driving through the forest in his 1964 Pick-Up, when he heard a cry. It was "Help, help, someone please help me, I'm in terrible trouble !". Toby stopped suddenly and got out. He knew he could be wrong, but he had a hunch that someone was in terrible trouble. Anyway, on the way to where the voice was coming from he tripped over a guava and scratched his nose a little, but that doesn't really matter, I mean he didn't need a plaster or anything, though even if he had done he wouldn't have got one, I mean who ever heard of a squirrel with a sticking plaster, the idea is patently absurd. Anyway, he finally got to where the voice was coming from and found a rabbit standing outside the front door of his house, shouting and bawling. "I'm Toby", said Toby, not wishing to lie at such a perilous time. "What's the matter?". "Oh, hello", said the rabbit, by now slightly calmer though still shaking slightly. "I'm Mr Convenient-Plot-Device, thank you for coming to help me. As I said earlier in the story, I'm in terrible trouble. The situation is thus: I need to get my house (actually it's called a warren, thought Toby, but he didn't want to make the rabbit more upset by telling him this) redecorated because the famous Brer Rabbit is coming to tea tomorrow afternoon, and the place looks terrible, I mean look at it, it's all seventies browns and lava lamps. As soon as the famous Brer Rabbit sees it he'll laugh his fucking head off (there's no need for that kind of language, thought Toby, but he could see that Mr C-P-D (it was funny the first time, now it's just long to write) was very upset, so he forgave him), and then I'll never become a member of the Board Of Trade. "Oh, that's easy", said Toby, "just pop down to Ikea and they'll sort you out a treat, what with all their cool coloured chairs and modern Scandinavian outlook, fashionable yet functional with lots of great little bits and bobs and well". "Oh, cheers", said Mr C-P-D, and off he went, leaving Toby at the end of the story. Epilogue: Mr C-P-D redecorated his home and had the famous Brer Rabbit over for tea. Unfortunately he accidentally poisoned the famous Brer Rabbit with a piece of dodgy veal, hid the body in his wine cellar and is now a fugitive from justice, like Harrison Ford. Toby had a chance meeting with Dexter Fletcher from TV's "Press Gang" in a massage parlour, which has led to a successful acting career. He already has a part in the new Star Trek film, "It's An Even One So It Must Be Good", (as Lt Commander Bushytail) and is currently shagging Julia Sawahla. The author takes no responsibility for this short story being donkey shite. Them's the breaks. He will however claim copyright infringement if he finds anyone using the name Toby. Anyone found using the name Toby will be ordered by law to change their name to "Cocksnatcher" forthwith or face the consequences. Anyone found using the name "Mr Convenient-Plot-Device" will be ordered by law to spend the rest of their life in a mental institution. Hope this is one of the good ones, Mum. Love and funny tinglings, Alasdair xx "Utterly unoriginal" PS. I know she still reads the list even though she's not on it, so a huge thanks to the only good thing in Hackney, the gorgeous Muncher, for putting me up and doing general looking after me duties. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BrnToEnd at xxx.com Tue Jan 11 14:59:57 2000 From: BrnToEnd at xxx.com (BrnToEnd at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:59:57 EST Subject: Sinister: Why did I wake up? Message-ID: Hello everyone, Well lets see its 6:31 A.M. but thats not what matters lets see I woke up to find well to be frank dog ::insert favorite poop word:: everywhere. The whole house stinks and I can't clean it up or else the mean kids at school will make fun of me. Whyyy Me Whhhy Me. Then if that wasn't bad enough I went in the shower and the hot water doesnt work so I had to take a fast cold shower as opposed to a hot shower where I can be lazy. Then I looked in the fridge and all the coffee is gone then I realized I had'nt done an essay to do in english. So now I'm cuddled infront of a piece of crud heater the kind that takes till the next messiah to heat up and I'm listening to TIJAMRS E.P. and crying to Slow Grarafiti when a choclate coffin and milk but I'm not very hungry after seeing the dog doo. If this is just the start of my problems then I dread whats next. -Damon "Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail Better."- Samuel Beckett +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Tue Jan 11 15:36:40 2000 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Jones?=) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 07:36:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Slafes to the Rafe Message-ID: <20000111153640.18437.qmail@web108.yahoomail.com> Need a bass ! January. Jan-U-ary, JAN-uary, Janu-ARY. I hear some adventurous folks are injecting conc-Benilyn into their lungs to banish this 'flu thang. I'm not surprised at such desperation; it's no fun being a walking percolator by day, and condensing an entire season of "Daktari" sound-FX into every laboured rasp by night. Of course, I generally pay enfeebled street-urchins to be ill *for* me at this time of year. Most of them don't make it, poor blighters. An enormously long time ago, back in the days when you could still write a cheque without having to delete the pre-printed '19' in the top right-hand corner*, Stevie T and Peter M concocted a humourous little tale regarding the ludicrous nature of Lawrence Felt's new pop construction. Except, it now transpires, they were being horribly factual. Lady P and I gave it a spin the other night; mouths - opening and closing. No sound. "Lots of anger in Rwanda... drinkin' Um Bongo, drinkin' Um Bongo". My head was sticky with bewilderment from that point on; my critical faculties snapped off as soon as the synthetic kiddie-vox kicked in on "Mrs Back to Front...". Someone else can review this properly for those who are interested; I don't think I can stomach a second listen. The man's a genius, of course. (* - I like to think that this is an indication that the humble cheque was never supposed to persist beyond the 20th century; that banks fully anticipated that we'd be exchanging money-fluid through glittery tubes fastened to our hips by 2001. I think the tragic consequences of NatWest's Ashton-under-Lyme trials in the mid-80s took everyone by surprise. No matter how often they hose, you can still see the stains on the Town Hall steps.) Chad, in a thread concerning Bibbe's boy-wonder, said: >Does anyone really >think what modern pop musicians do is new? In the bold truth, music >stopped being something new and original many decades ago. Well, let's not confuse the terms 'new' and 'original'. It's entirely possible to juxtapose a clutch of existing styles and produce something fresh; if one can see the joins or catches a whiff of cynicism in the execution, it's supremely irritating; if it seems as natural as breathing, you're onto a winner. This, I reckon, is where B&S qualify as something 'new'. I'd say the same for Arto Lindsay and Stereolab. Or Windsor Davies and Don Estelle. Beck, I'm not too sure about; one could make a case for his thrilling "nowness", or dismiss him as patchwork-pastiche - Lenny Kravitz with a broader record collection. I'm not about to do either. Some nice songs on "Mutations". As for the idea of music ceasing to be something new and original, I don't think that's strictly possible. It renews itself whether we like it or not. In the pop realm, I don't recall anything remotely like Missy Elliot or Richard James in the top 10 (or anywhere else) a decade ago. Where are the pop theoreticians when you need them ? You can see I'm struggling here. Duke, Timbo, Starry, Trousse, Brooking and da rest... cock your kultur-pistols and blast me back on course, you foolz. Ste' Mik' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boucherphilip at xxx.com Tue Jan 11 17:54:42 2000 From: boucherphilip at xxx.com (Philip Boucher) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:54:42 GMT Subject: Sinister: Hello Message-ID: <20000111175442.47774.qmail@hotmail.com> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jthorniley at xxx.net Tue Jan 11 19:09:28 2000 From: jthorniley at xxx.net (James Thorniley) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:09:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Oh my god, you lik Belle and Sebastian! Message-ID: <387B7FE8.1D9382C1@hedgehog.freehosting.net> Hello, I seem to be the only one without any kind of disease, I feel so guilty Well, I just thought I'd share this lovely short story... No, I will share this crappy short story instead, I was walking through the town center, and I was just thinking how nice it would be to bump into someone with a B&S t-shirt or badges or whatever on, and sighing because it would never happen. Strange thing was, the next thing i saw was a girl in one of those IYFS t-shirts. Well, my stomach jumped and I almost screamed but by the time I composed myself she had disappeared into the crowd. I spent the next 20 minutes looking for her to no avail. So there you are. Hmm, lets think of some other stuff i can waste your time with, Jarkko wanted to know about soft cusses. The thing I find strange is it's always the soft cusses that turn out to be rudest, we all know about bugger i'm sure, but just the other day I found out that "twat" means female genitalia, but maybe you all knew that and I'm the stupid one. I tried to write about Stuart Murdoch for my German homework -- write about your idol ;). Strangely I can't find the word for twee in my German dictionary. I did find it in my Oxford dictionary (right below "twat"), and apparently it's "derogatory", so there's something else you probably all knew and I didn't. Oh yeah, TIGERMILKING Well I had to mention it. Yus I went up to London after lying to my mum to get out of the house ("I'm going to a party", not very imaginative, I know). It was of course just luvly, and it was fun putting a few faces to names (Hi everyone I met). I had of course no plan for getting home, but the lovely Archel (blatant name dropping, sorry) lead me and David to Victoria, where we slumped for two hours getting very cold. Of course this meant no sleep so I ended up spending four hours in bed so now my mum thinks it was a really wild party, and I think my sister thinks I was having sex with someone. harhar. Oh god, I'd forgotten how easy it is to go on and on and on. I could do this forever. Bye my dears, James +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From David1822 at xxx.com Tue Jan 11 21:35:57 2000 From: David1822 at xxx.com (David Strange Strange) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:35:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Who's Afraid of Y2K? Message-ID: <12932839.947626557774.JavaMail.imail@doodle.excite.com> The Future of tomorrow TODAY, I hope all you cool sinister kids had a cool new year and by the sounds of it you all got very drunk and had a good time. So this is Y2K, I've just parked my hover car in my garage and my robot is making me a cup of tea all quite nice really. I spent Christmas in Paris which was fantastic and new year in Jersey which was equally as good but I don't remember the latter because I was slightly drunk and dancing to Millennium by Robbie which they played 8 times at the party I was at. Onto B&S content only a little though I'm afraid, Tigermilking was fantastic thank you to everyone who attended I had a fantastic time dancing to great music, I'm sorry to that American girl for talking utter crap to her but I was slightly drunk and was running out of things to talk about, i hope that little Greg who run away screaming when me Alasdair and Sarah were ment to look after him, iwas never good at babysitting. Thanks to Alasdair 'n' Sarah for putting up with me that day, cheerrs. Nat West are showing the Littlest Hobo adverts again, I love that bank now soooooo much, i might open an account. Anyway got to go now and wash my hover car, see you all soon and remember if you can't be good, don't get caught being bad. just before i go, huge thank you's to Honey for keeping the list going , i know that a lot of peoplw would agree with me that without the list there life's would be pretty dull and it's really good that it was saved soo cheers Honey. love DAVID XXXX 'the milky bars are on me' _______________________________________________________ Visit Excite Shopping at http://shopping.excite.com The fastest way to find your Holiday gift this season +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Tue Jan 11 22:04:56 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:04:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I Tiresias Message-ID: <200001111705_MC2-9443-CBF1@compuserve.com> Hi Top Shelf Fans, Michele & Martin can nag me all they like, but the threat of The Enforcer holds no terror for me, as Damon is a scholar as well as a gentleman, and having studied his Eliot, knows the third part of The Waste Land well. So we have reached an agreement about the absolute necessity of sparing the world a sight of the Moore bosom. You'll have to content yourself with sniggering at the 70's pornstar moustache on the As We Were page :) I know there's no relevance to Belle & Sebastian in this, but at least its short :) Wear Your Foghat With Pride, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox at xxx.com Tue Jan 11 22:32:04 2000 From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:32:04 GMT Subject: Sinister: the nothing new Message-ID: <20000111223206.34337.qmail@hotmail.com> THE OWL SERVICE 'Jen' mentioned a 'twee' owl. To wit: too true. Here's an owl I've recently encountered in the fictional realm: A wise old owl once lived in a wood, the more he heard the less he said, the less he said the more he heard, let's emulate that wise old bird. BARCLAYS? LLOYDS Steady Mike referred to the NatWest experiments of the mid-80s. I was thinking he meant their sponsorship of Slough Town (March 1985- May 1986) till someone else's reference to The Littlest Hobo cleared up the mess. No, the gunge. Or am I conflating two different banks? MAKE THEM ACCOMPLICES Steady Mike - for it is he again - set out to defend the possibility of novelty in pop, and invited responses of a sort. I'm afraid that I've taken the shirlie, sorry, the pepsi challenge. I was keen on the way that he wasn't really polemical - that his defence wasn't necesarily a defence of the horse he was backing. (It ruined many a man the same horses). It was more fact than value. For that reason I'd largely back his non-polemical polemic, rather than yenning to blast him onto a new course. It's true: new things are appearing, if not all the time, then periodically and gradually. (Or would gradually mean all the time?) The radical novelty of what's radically new is, presumably, largely down to technology rather than to any new discoveries in the field of music more abstractly conceived (new notes, harmonies, etc). So 'The Future Of Music' - ie. the development of new genres, forward-looking directions, unwalked paths - would (I take it) lie with genres that have a very intimate relation with new technology - which is to say, 'dance music', 'electronic music', and other things so unfamiliar to me that I must needs surround them with inverted commas. That presumably means that many people will not have much van, I mean truck, with these (actual or putative) new genres. For people thoroughly enmortgaged to banks and estate agents - sorry, I mean, to older genres - 'rock 'n' roll', 'indie pop', 'folk music', 'opera' and the like - there may be much novelty in store, but nothing benevolently new under the sun, nothing much for them to look forward to. SM - for it is he again - is not of this company. Everyone else must take their stand or find their cave as they will. Personally, pop history stopped at about 1993 round my way, halfway through the intro of a Frank and Walters 45 as I turned the radio off to go to Tesco's. Not only will I never get anything out of any emergent new genre, I've got precious little out of 99% of 'new music' in vivid memory. I just meet a few entertaining people who know about it, and nod parsley - I mean sagely - when they name unknown names. But SM also said something more nuanced, which I also agreed with. This was - if I may simplify for my own simplistic ends: yes, pop is apt to be drawing on loads of pre-existing elements - to be retro, eclectic, or what you will - but that this in itself probably doesn't tell you whether you'll like it ot not. Some very derivative music (and most music may be derivative) clicks, some doesn't. The influences get chopped and changed this way and that, hidden or not, used productively or not. And - SM didn't add - one listener's sense of whether it works or not is by anything but means guaranteed to chime with another's. To try to sum up. 'New music' - does it happen? Yes, in the sense that it's new every time you pick up a chainsaw, sorry, an axe. Yes, in the sense that new genres and sounds are emerging. No, perhaps, in the sense that the musical score, the range of notes available etc, is relatively fixed - but that's debatable. (The frontiers of what's music and what's just noise might be mobile. If so, then more and more music is probably appearing as more noise is accepted into the realm of music.) Some of us have a lot of new music to look forward to. Some don't - but at least for that party, the past is a new country. They do things originally there. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.borgia at xxx.ca Wed Jan 12 03:15:30 2000 From: alexander.borgia at xxx.ca (Alexander Borgia) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:15:30 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Dirty Dream 3 Message-ID: <387BF1D2.4A234A84@sympatico.ca> Dear Sini-victims, Here is my rant for the day. Today I got a call from an ex-girlfriend who I broke up with a year and a half ago. She was near where I work so she wanted to meet for lunch. This is the same ex-girlfriend who contacted meone New Years Day to see how I was doing. So we went for lunch and....well.....she tried to get me to ditch work for the afternoon and go to my place. There was definitely strong overtones to which my body responded favourably. You may recall, or not, that on Christmas I was contacted by yet another ex-girlfriend, she ended up sending me her pic and asking what I thought of her home perm. I told her she looked like Queen Elizabeth I. She did. Now the problem with my lunch date is although she was insanely jealous, something I can't stand, she was quite fun in areas where considerable nudity occured. Tha't stuff you don't forget. So the idea of spending an afternoon, and quite possibly the evening languishing in the arms of an attractive lady, is something the mind will not easily displace. Even more so, the body's responses were of the type where the effects will be long felt. I declined the invitation because I was too afraid of the possibility of becoming reinvolved with the person. Many times I was given to the impression that she was most interested in me for my cooking, both in the bedroom and in the kitcken. (Okay, so deal with it, I'm a really good cook) I did not want to return to a relationship where I felt like a chinese restaurant will added items on the menu. But damn! she was a good lay. So I walked her to near where she parked her car and bid her good-bye. I also gave her a kiss and wished her a happy New Year. She didn't stop at one. I managed to extricate myself from the situation and return to work to finish my afternoon. It was difficult to concentrate as you can imagine, even worse was trying to be creative on a job that is destined to be ugly no matter what, and I can assure you that I was already having shitty day, so the alternative was quite alluring, but I didn't do it. Now I am wondering what the hell is wrong with me. Am I getting old and my hormones declining so that they no longer rule my life (not that they ever did, uh huh) or is it that my brain is capable of controlling my body and keeping me from harms way. Might also be that may apartment is a really complete mess and I really didn't want to bring anyone home until I cleaned up. But now that I think about it, did she want me for the sex or the Shrimp Fettucini she really liked? I should mention that there is no B&S content beyond the fact that had she and I spent the afternoon, I most likely will have played it while we were dancing about somewhere or another. So please expect me to be cranky for the next few days as a result of my stressful day. I have noticed that I am quite agressive in Quake Arena and I have no idea why. Not that my crankyness will have any bearing on anyone remotely aquainted with the list, but I am hoping that you will let the rest of the world know in case they should come in contact with me. And another thing. I didn't have a really good supper, I only had soup, but I didn't feel like going out. Alexander Oh, I almost forgot. I burned my mouth the other day on soup and it just healed so I stupidly just burned it again, along with my tongue. I'll shut up now. I wonder if there is anything on television? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Wed Jan 12 05:59:50 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:59:50 EST Subject: Sinister:in the reliable fashion of ink polaroids Message-ID: They all said It couldn't be done, well mostly my mom said it couldn't be done, no one else knew about it. but I made pants today. I've always been good at sewing butmostly i would just make cute patchwork purses or jean purses, or add panels to my preexisting pants to make them more 'wide leg' I can't stand those pants that are like carrots. soo straight with terribly narrow legs and ankles too. The only person they look good on is ewan mcgregor in that heroin movie. so i made them without a pattern and they came out amazing i am sooproud, even my mom likes them so i know i must have done something right because she never likes the things i sew up the material was insanely cheap at wally world.two dollars a yard so i snatched it up and it's great material the one is thick grey and heavey not so like canvas but close, and the other which was only a dollar a yard is sort of an olive colour,and it is more like tweed, four yards each. woo.So i'm excited. yeah. So now i'm having this weeklong argument with a friend online about my 'heritage' or whatever you want to call it She's telling me that i'm not english because I wasn't born there, nor have i been there excluding whilst i was gestating. my whole famille is from england excluding my father and my grandfather who are both GI. and my uncle who happened to be born in america. when my grandparents were stationed in california. it's a stupid argument eh? she's 'italian' but she's never been to italy so i tell her she's not italian. it didn't sit well with her, oh well i'm not someone you want to argue with. I never never lose...most of the time. B&S CONTENT: I was glancing through an old issue of Spin magazine, (well not too terribly old January's issue, but February's issue is out already so it is old by magazine standards....)>but I found this pic at the back of the magazine it's of richard colburn the drummer, for B&S, drr.He's on the far left and some unknown girl is giving him the traditional W for whatever reason.the other people are just people. no one of importance unless it's you. < I thought perhaps you all would like to have a gander so I scanned it for you all but the listy thing won't let me send an attchemnt so i reckon if you would like to see it i'll glady mail it to whoever asks for it.the caption says richard colburn drummer for Belle and Sebastian stops by between shows. It is for the college music journal in New York they are at CBGB's or the hilton and towers, the caption isn't clear and it states these two locations for the goings on. Iris I am drunk with gravity +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Wed Jan 12 11:03:34 2000 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 03:03:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: re: Slafes to the Rafe Message-ID: <20000112110334.28935.qmail@web2001.mail.yahoo.com> belle and sebastian (remember them?): the tube thing was odd, 3 hours and then 2 hours and then one hour, highlights of highlights. and two showings of different takes of the same song (including one where he forgets the words) rather than playing both the songs they recorded. most odd. and was that stuart david playing bass? i'm not sure. he was well hidden and it didn't look like him somehow (i paused the video and all). was it groucho instead? does this add more fuel to the 'stu d to leave b&s' rumours? and isobel. there's something odd about it all, it's like she's trying just a bit too hard to be how she is. maybe she was just a bit selfconscious cos of the cameras and all but the whistling (and that hair) looked a bit laboured. maybe if someone'd thrown sweets... andy i was kinda hoping that =?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Jones?'s mail was going to be an expose' of everything that happened at the turn of the millennium at chez mike down in greenwich. here's a list, see if you can map them to prominant sinister personalities: a) dancing to headsplittingly loud gabba at 3 in the morning b) singing smiths songs by the river at midnight in an attempt to drown out a dozen other people all signing a robbie williams song ('angel' and not 'millennium' strangely enough). this was followed by a very public piss c) shouting insults out the window to the crowds of people who'd previously been subjected to simply red in a tent somewhere down the road d) copious vomitting e) sitting (and eventually sleeping) on the kitchen floor like buddha f) 'ugh, it's on me!' and, most outrageously considering the circumstances: g) going to bed at 1:30 um, chewable vitamin c tablets. 500mg. one tablet contains 833% of the recommended daily allowance and the bottle still goes on to say take 1 or 2 tablets up to 3 times daily. what's 6 x 833%? haliborange overdose anyone? they dug up the blue peter time capsule the other day, buried in 1971. you'd've thought they'd've made the box waterproof knowing it was going to be there for that long. i've seen bodies that looked better after 29 years underground. ===== andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Wed Jan 12 12:07:10 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 04:07:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: can someone answer a question for me? Message-ID: <20000112120710.9450.qmail@web607.mail.yahoo.com> what is this deal about everyone saying tigermilking all the time? flu is feeling a bit better today. i recommend a few drops of tea tree oil in a hot bath for anyone who is currently suffering. And olbas oil on a hankerchief. And lots of paracetamol, bananas, nasty cough mixture and diluting juice. don't eat too much cheese though. ===== visit the idle site:www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/5117 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Wed Jan 12 13:49:34 2000 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:49:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The traditional W Message-ID: <80256864.004BF3FB.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> >I was glancing through an old issue of Spin magazine, (well not too >terrible old January's issue, but February's issue is out already so >it is old by magazine standards....)>but I found this pic at the back of >the magazine it's of richard colburn the drummer, for B&S, drr.He's on the >far left and some unknown girl is giving him the traditional W for >whatever reason.the other people are just people. no one of importance >unless it's you. Huh? Call me old-fashioned but I can only imagine the W stands for wank. Some girl giving Richard Colburn a traditional wank on the back pages of Spin magazine? Is it traditional in the sense of 'classic wank', with no fancy finger work, or traditional because Spin magazine has a long-running New Year feature involving photos of drummers getting hand-jobs from unknown women? Terribly glad to see some heavyweight pop theorising resurface on the list. Perhaps we can provoke the thin white duke of Devon to burst, bluddy and raging from the stomach of the piezoelectric unit and tell us why goth is still an innovatory force to be reckoned with. I can't put my finger on why, but I can't imagine Stuart Murdoch's lyrics being written before the 1990s. It's not just the references to mobile phones. I might like a band, but I couldn't imagine them being so important to me unless there was something new about them. And with B&S, it's Stuart Murdoch's lyrics. Dance music has now matured to the degree that it can't claim to be intrinsically more modern than inventive music in any other genre. The last really new sound I can remember was jungle in about 1992. That doesn't mean I don't like it. However, modern R n' B, hip-hop etc is undoubtedly more 'cutting edge' in another sense - it's what excites most kids, black and white (at least in urban areas). I can't even talk about this without feeling like an old man. I dunno - I think it's been that way since the 70s, really. Comparatively few worthwhile indie bands have come out of London, because MOBO (I can't bring myself to spell out the acronym) is the prevailing culture. Even members of the shit ones probably only moved here when they went to college. There's something about the kind of witty, romantic post-punk pop tradition (hey - snappy!) that is forever... not London. Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From craigrm at xxx.uk Wed Jan 12 14:28:38 2000 From: craigrm at xxx.uk (craigrm) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:28:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: more senseless speculation..... Message-ID: <386D50B5@www.twigger.co.uk> All this talk of "traditional W"'s has got me quite excited as you can probably well imagine. But after a brief search of the SPIN website I'm sadly unable to shed any light on the whole percussionist-hand job phenomena. Do we have any drummers on the list who can perhaps clear this up ?. I suspect it's probably an indisputable Rock fact along the lines of bassists always getting the weird groupies. Cheers & 24k solid gold props to all involved and present at Friday's TigerMulching extravaganza, it was tops and I for one had a great time despite my terminal lack of dance floor skills. Anyway that's all I really have to say cos I'm quite busy at work (Y2K got a bit messy round here) but before I head off here's a nice TM review I found while trawling through spin.com. Enjoy... and love me forever. Lol Craig xxxxx "The problem with the hype surrounding Belle and Sebastian is a very unusual one. You see, it's all true. Brilliant songwriters? Check. The best new band in a decade? Probably. A band who can make you believe in music again? Absolutely. Oh, and all that stuff about their unreleased first album--the one recorded as a college economics class project, the one pressed onto only 1,000 vinyl copies, the one that recently went for over $1,200 on an Internet charity auction--being a lost masterpiece? Yeah, that's all true too. Recorded almost four years ago by local older-than-he-looks songwriter Stuart Murdoch and the five musicians he recruited to help him, Tigermilk is finally being released on CD by Matador Records. It is not the shambling, trembly musical baby-steps a cynical critic might expect. Far from it. Don't let the Belle's unassuming manner fool you: they knew what they were doing from the start, and here's the proof: Tigermilk is in no way an astonishing first album. It is an astonishing album. Simple as that. Though there are some stylistic surprises, the ten songs collected here are constructed in the same basic way as every other Belle song: Murdoch's high, warm tenor appears, supported by an acoustic guitar, before quietly being surrounded by rich flourishes of instrumentation; Stevie Jackson's massively underrated lead guitar fills, Isobel Cambell's understated cello, and the occasional burst of trumpet or recorder. But what is immediately striking about them is their overall looseness. If the Belle's most recent LP, The Boy with the Arab Strap, deserved any criticism, it was due to a certain tightness in the performances. The songs were there, the aura intact, but perhaps the raised expectations affected Murdoch more than he let on. In comparison, Tigermilk positively swings. From the jaunty, irresistible "She's Losing It" to the album's crumbling, fragile Nick Drake-worthy numbers, "We Rule the School" and "Mary Jo," Murdoch's music is so unassumingly confident one can't believe it was the band's first time in a studio together. Even the record's biggest "reach," the Love meets Pet Shop Boys rush of "Electronic Renaissance," reaps huge dividends, somehow managing to be both a clever analysis of Britain's post-Ecstasy social climate and kind of groovy at the same time. What the long-awaited unveiling of Tigermilk ultimately proves, though, is that whether he likes it or not, Belle and Sebastian's success is inseparable from Stuart Murdoch's. The onetime church-sweeper has long been a fan of immortalizing his musical career in songs ("It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career," etc.) and Tigermilk is no exception. Rather, its content is even more self-referential. Opener "The State I Am In" (familiar to those diligent enough to pick up the Belle's four essential import EPs) is a masterwork of self-revelation and deception, relating pre-success tales both poignant ("I was surprised, I was happy for a day in 1975," "riding on city buses for a hobby is sad") and fantastical ("I got married in a rush to save a kid from being deported / now she's in love"). And then there's "My Wandering Days Are Over," the album's best song and one of the finest the group has ever set down. Perverse as ever, Murdoch makes the crowning moment of his debut a notice of his retirement: "You know my wandering days are over/Does that mean that I'm getting boring?/You tell me." Bringing back Sebastian and Belle as characters (the names seem to be the alter egos of Murdoch and the band's are-they-or-aren't-they chanteuse, Isobel Campbell), Murdoch spins scenes of urban ennui into melodic gold. More than anything else, Belle and Sebastian's songs work because of their honesty. Murdoch can paint and catalog sad-sacks and dead-end streets like no one else, but in his voice it's never objectification: he's been there himself. More famous in Glasgow at the time for making up band names rather than playing in them, the Murdoch who put this record together was hungry for opportunity himself. With Murdoch finally able to put his strumming where his mouth was, Tigermilk is the sound of an aimless life picking itself up, and he knew it: "It's got to be fate that's doing it/A spooky witch in a sexy dress has been bugging me/With the story of the way it should be/With the story of Sebastian/and Belle the singer, yeah." Sounding like everything and sounding like no one but themselves, Belle and Sebastian are, and apparently have been, the real deal. These songs have nothing to do with hype, with being the new Smiths, with refusing interviews, with watching French films and carrying on. Simply put, these songs are pure magic. Play them again and again. It's Belle and Sebastian's world. We're just glad we live in it." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Wed Jan 12 14:51:54 2000 From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:51:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Lazy Pant Loosener Bob Message-ID: Hey popkids! I've just had a look at the Jeepster B+S site and there's a lovely picture of the cover to the new "Lazy Line Painter Jane" collection of the first 3 e.ps. I don't know what she's doing with her hands but she's either giving someone the traditional W or she's dissin' my ho. She's a very square lady isn't she? I'm so bored Robin x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From windisch24 at xxx.com Wed Jan 12 16:56:36 2000 From: windisch24 at xxx.com (mike windisch) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:56:36 PST Subject: Sinister: revisionist wank Message-ID: <20000112165636.78197.qmail@hotmail.com> not that it's entirely relevant, but perhaps this whole manual servicing of percussionists stems from the fact that their own god-given wanking limbs are filled with drumsticks. here's to the hope of ample rim-shots on the next b&s release; and while I'm at how's about some more harmonica. at any rate, the only thing that I can think to say to end this post is that after my conversion this new year's I can no longer classify that original genius Stuart Murdoch as anything other than a warbling puss. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Wed Jan 12 17:09:49 2000 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:09:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: the traditional W Message-ID: was most intrigued by the traditional W, not sure if it really can be wanking cos its more traditional to do that to yourself than to get others to do it (though maybe I should become a drummer and that would change things). Anyway what it really got me thinking of was our old friend the remote wanker, I think remote wanking should be brought back as a sinister hobby and as the first phase of my plan I am currently remote wanking the guy opposite me in the computer lab, oh dear he appears to be smiling a lot now, it must really work. Oh and while I'm bringing back the old sinister passtime I would like to make one other change to sinister, from now on nobody is allowed to talk about the tube appearance cos my video recorder broke and so i haven't seen it and it doesn't look like I'm going to get to see it, BOO HOO! anyway I'm off for a traditional D now (answers on a postcard please) so I'll speak to you all in February unless I decide to write again later this week. bye bye my little chickens owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Wed Jan 12 17:17:36 2000 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:17:36 EST Subject: Sinister: German Sheisse Videos Message-ID: <40.59aa5f.25ae1130@aol.com> My band was played on the radio today! Zoinks! It felt totally weird to hear us on the radio, but in a very good way. It makes me feel like I've actually done something pretty good, but in an odd way if we ever have to play that song again it'll feel like I'm playing a cover. I'll get over that. Its a great motivator I must say... I remember along time ago someone said that the sitar was the all-time worst instrument to hear on an album, but after much thought I must disagree. The instrument that makes my skin crawl the absolute most is the alto-saxophone. YE GADS I CANNOT STAND IT! "Listen to What the Man Says" is only song that it sounds halfway decent on, and thats even pushing it. It just screams old guy, Kenny G, "I'm trying to sound mature" vibes. It also makes every song sound like it's meant to be played in a dentist's office for some reason. I hate it very much. If I ever hear it again, it'll be too soon. Speaking of soft rock crap, does anyone else hear where Michael Bolton got his start in "The Long and Winding Road"? I love that song as much as the next guy, but I can't help feeling it somehow spawned a demon. Dick Colburn getting wanked? Is this a new "wank the drummer" trend or is he suave like that? Wow, on camera no less... Back to bed Steve C. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Which Paul?" "BLAH!" visit http://callowkids.tripod.com or your crush will hate you forever +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seilsd at xxx.net Wed Jan 12 17:30:49 2000 From: seilsd at xxx.net (Damon Seils (Enforcer)) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:30:49 -0500 Subject: Sinister: You, Tiresias References: <200001111705_MC2-9443-CBF1@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <387CBA41.FE65490@earthlink.net> Venerable David Moore, I was laughable as a scholar, and I am only barely a gentleman. More of a NICE BOY, perhaps. You are right, though. I have had contact with the third part of The Waste Land. It is a vile, icky, rude bit of verse, but it achieves sufficient tartiness for my purposes. And this is precisely why I must insist that you not use it as an excuse to avoid displaying your wrinkled dugs on the body parts page. Consider yourself warned. I have been civil. Michele and Martin are at my command. Do not tempt me. Of wider concern...I've been meaning to say something about the striking resemblance in appearance between the beloved Mick Cooke and the less well-known Steven Mackintosh of the British stage and screen. I hesistate to admit that Mr. Mackintosh caught my eye in a 1992 episode of Inspector Morse. Hmm. I guess I didn't really have anything to say about it, other than to bring it to our collective attention. Related comments of a sexual nature may be sent along to me (with as little delay as possible). Waiting for DICKIE to slip, The Enforcer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Wed Jan 12 18:13:11 2000 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (Angel Blackwell) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:13:11 EST Subject: Sinister: the wheels of the bus go round and round... Message-ID: <20000112181312.13287.qmail@hotmail.com> k, I have a question to put to you little sinister boys, girls, undecided. When, in winter, you get on the bus and are all wrapped up in cardies, doctor who scarves, and bums padded with corduroy (sp?) why is it that the bus is 40000 degrees??? Maybe this is just a Toronto occurrence, but since everyone is already prepared for the weather, shouldn't the person seated closest to the door, ie. the bus driver, be dressed for the cold as well? Hmmm...in wanking news...without drummer though...anyone seen the rude new twoonie? We have this coin now with an Inuit, a stick, and a round thing. It looks more like he's banging the earth...quite impressive though, being hung like a planet I guess, eh? Oh well, back to sucking corporate dick... angel blackwell ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordiet at xxx.com Wed Jan 12 19:00:23 2000 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: 12 Jan 2000 11:00:23 -0800 Subject: Sinister: just a question... Message-ID: <20000112190023.1402.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Wed Jan 12 21:14:57 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:14:57 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Shop Now/Riot Later Message-ID: <200001121615_MC2-946C-22D@compuserve.com> Hi Seed of Onan, Steady Mike spoke eloquently (as always) about newness in music: I'm not clever enough to join in a discussion with the likes of him, Mr Pinefox, The Duke Of Harangue, et al but a comment on the Go-Kart Mozart album (B&S context via Stuart M's T-shirt). (Sample lyrics: In a Rotterdam cell Genet & me get on well He puts his hands on my knee He wants to sodomize me!!! I'm a sailor boy Sailor Boy) I've listened to this record 3 or 4 times now & its still amusing (though I admit that this may not last) and I also admire the way that Lawrence has a P!O!P at everybody & everything regardless of whether its PC or not. There's even tragedy to complement the comedy: that "Right. Is that it? You get one fucking chance & that's what you give me. Fucking children's story. That's it. I've had enough " bit in Mrs Back-To-Front, etc. sounds a bit too bitter, nay heartFelt to be a joke. There again, Lou Reed doing The Barron Knights in a 90's stylee may not be everybody's cup of Sainsbury's Red Label. Perhaps you have to think of it more as Lawrence *Denim's* new pop construction. Oops - scroll box appears. Time to go David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From xstensionchord at xxx.net Wed Jan 12 21:23:16 2000 From: xstensionchord at xxx.net (xstensionchord at xxx.net) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:23:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Mop-top Mamas Message-ID: <5313-387CF0C4-28@storefull-624.iap.bryant.webtv.net> I am glad many reconstructed Pop's image on these lovely electric letters, in response to my "pissed off post" about Beck's criticism. My main point was and is, Pop music was created for the masses. It is run by tons of promoters and executives (ALL of who's focus is SALES) who don't even have a clear notion of the physics of music, but focus on the 'Tao of Business'. We have such wonderful modern bands like B&S, Pavement, and The Smiths as testaments to their personal reactions to the traditional pop scene. The traditional pop scene starting in the 50's til (enter your scientific/critic-laden date here) This is why you hear the words Elvis, Beatles (I speak of only there early work), , Led Zepplin and all other famous white men doing what black men have done behind the scenes, being cited as influences. This happens because of purely the packaging it's put in. World-wide there could be dozens of guys singing out the most heart felt and beautiful cries in their garages on a cheap mic, but they aren't seen as heroes or influences. MY POINT-- Pop Music cannot be fully debated and defended since it's roots are in money and the blooming media. It's based in luxuries not necessities. Misinterpret this post as you wish. " Being cynical went out a decade ago, Humor just shows what I'm hiding, so therefore I take the road of a confessed romantic. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachel at xxx.uk Wed Jan 12 22:41:08 2000 From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:41:08 -0000 Subject: Sinister: ooh, steven mackintosh, luvverrly Message-ID: <001601bf5d4e$22cdad00$9b2e893e@preinstalledco> ohmygod someone on sinister mentioned steven mackintosh ALERT ALERT PATHETIC OBSESSION ON THE HORIZON steven mackintosh has become the stuart murdoch of british acting for me i.e a complete idol who i love and would almost forfeit seeing oxford united at wembley to meet ( and we're only 3 games away from the auto-twiddly final!! i can't contain the excitement!! ). unbelievebly this is almost solely based on his role in 'undercover heart' alongside daniela nardini (sorry non- uk dwellers, feel free to delete), and i have made next to no effort to hunt out the rest of his work. mind you he was also tres good and shifty in some series about this couple adopting a kid from eastern europe. i think it was called 'bad blood'. it was cool. ok, outpour over, you can come back now. i'm off to see primal scream on sunday!! yay, i can't wait! and i know this is list abuse, but i have two requests of anyone in the oxford area: - if anyone's going to see the primals at the zodiac do you want to meet up? - go see the samurai seven at the zodiac on saturday cos they're luvverrly. also, if anyone knows aberdeen or glasgow well, either the cities or the universities, could you mail me privately please? not only do i have to sort my life and university applications out over the summer (a long way off i know, but i'm trying to avoid thinking about the exams, and rather more about my life after this summer), but me and my best mate are going on holiday there in march. any reccommendations would be gratefully received. just to add a point to the new music discussion: i don't care if a band are 'original' or not if i like them. there are plenty of qualities in music that appeal to me such as lyrics, emotion, tone, voice, catchiness (i.e britney spears) etc., and 'cutting edge' can refer to varying aspects. you could argue stuart murdoch has a 'cutting edge' voice if you take my mum's point of view: how can those poor band members cope with listening to that awful off-key drone all day? he shouldn't even be allowed to sing in his shower...etc. anyway MUST go revise for stats a-level module on friday. i have been saying that all day but i mean it this time.... lots of love rachel xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Wed Jan 12 22:58:27 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:58:27 -0500 Subject: Sinister: The State I Am In Message-ID: <200001121758_MC2-946D-18D7@compuserve.com> was chosen as one of the 4 tracks to represent 1996 in the Peelenium, (with Dick Dale, Kenickie & DJ Kaos (sp?) ) David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Wed Jan 12 23:45:40 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:45:40 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Lazy Line Painter Jane Message-ID: <200001121845_MC2-948F-508B@compuserve.com> Appears in Peel's All Time Festive 50 at no. 31 Congratulations again to the winsome Scottish folk duo. David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ar981611 at xxx.uk Thu Jan 13 10:54:18 2000 From: ar981611 at xxx.uk (Ailsa Ross) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:54:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: 10 Roddington Place Message-ID: <387DAEDA.211616E2@student.paisley.ac.uk> Yes, that Steven Mackintosh *is* rather nice. Even in some programme or other I saw late one night where he was a transsexual in horrid clothing (why do transsexuals/transvestites always wear the clothes that no self-respecting woman born a woman would ever wear?). Does he look like Mick Cooke though? Well, I guess he does. I'd never thought about that before. His (SM's, not MC's) appearance in Undercover Heart for me was rather overshadowed by the fact that he only appeared to own one jumper which he wore for the entire series. I care not a jot for this old music/new music debate. Cos there's lots of old stuff out there I haven't had a chance to listen to (I'm lately dicovering the joys of sixties bubblegum pop) and all this pesky new stuff keeps getting in the way and distracting me. Can't we just stop and give me a chance to catch up? Archel mentioned the gorgeous ***** (no names then?) and I can vouch for his general loveliness as said ***** gave me a real proper original Electric Honey copy of Tigermilk for my birthday. Which is nice. Actually it goes beyond nice by quite some considerable way, but I thought I'd be terrifically passé and quote the Fast Show cos even though it was last year's thing and popular culture dictates I should be quoting Ali G or something, Johnny Depp likes the Fast Show and he's my favourite actor this week. Didn't Isobel's arse look big when she was filmed from behind on the Tube? The folly of wearing inappropriately shaped overgarments, eh? Does this mean I have to send a photo of Isobel's arse now? I hope not. For a start, I haven't got a wide-angle lens. Ho ho. *author's note* - the last paragraph was intended as a joke. It may be unfunny, but amusement was the intention. I suppose I should have got Alasdair to write it had I really wanted it to be amusing. Anyway, I'm sure Isobel is a lovely person, and that her arse is perfectly in proportion with the rest of her. I'm not sure about this box set malarkey. Why don't they just re-release the CDs individually if they are that difficult to get hold of (which I'm sure they aren't since Jeepster are still selling them on-line, I must confess I have no idea if you can buy them still in shops as I haven't really been looking)? Or is the new packaging a snide attempt to fleece innocent but well-meaning (or just gullible) punters of their hard-earned cash in order to subsidise studio parties for special background effect, and keep the band members in spangles and ginger beer for a while while they try to justify taking fifty times as long to come up with this album as they did with the first two. It's not even as if they aren't sharing the songwriting workload. Or touring. Hmmmm. Luckily, patience is a virtue I actually possess (probably the only one). But it's wearing a little thin. Happy New Year, folks. Ailsa xx PS receiving compliments on my posts from ian is rather like Noel Gallagher receiving compliments on his lyrical sensitivity and genius from Struan. But thanks anyway :) It worked. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Thu Jan 13 05:03:36 2000 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:03:36 EST Subject: Sinister: i am leaving, i am leaving Message-ID: <8c.4c4db0.25aeb6a8@aol.com> ooh, i'll keep this short. I'm unsubscribing from sinister. It's not you, really, it's me. I just don't have enough time to keep up with the emails, and my hard drive is filling up with your words of wisdom. so, for the time being i am going to unsubscribe. Later, if i feel up to it, i'll return. Thank you so much, Honey, for being a good listmummy. You've been one of the best things about this mailing list, and the glue that holds the collage that is Sinister together. And for those of you who have improved my days with your witty, thought-provoking letters, a thousand hugs. Anyone who wants to keep in touch, well, you have my email address. Goodbye for now; perhaps i shall see some of you later Jygsaw Dave (the moon man) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Thu Jan 13 10:06:33 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 05:06:33 EST Subject: Sinister: odds and ends Message-ID: <3b.352d2b.25aefda9@aol.com> I was parusing this site for an article about another musician when I came upon these two things for Belle and Sebastian. Thought I would share them with you all... http://www.theavclub.com/bonusfeature1.html the lists are of the best albums of 1999. its on toward the bottom so you'll have to scroll down, I think these lists were made by writers for the onion. And these two reviews were written some time ago. How long? I'm not sure, i dunno if anyone even cares but I figured perhaps you would. well take care ciao iris i am drunk with gravity Belle & Sebastian The Boy With the Arab Strap (Matador) The Glasgow-based musical cooperative Belle & Sebastian's out-of-nowhere American debut If You're Feeling Sinister was one of last year's most striking albums. The tightly structured, but never predictable, pop and the literate, fey lyrics of singer and songwriter Stuart Murdoch combined to create a sound that prompted thoughts along the lines of, "Oh, so that's what's been missing." "No one writes them like they used to, so it may as well be me," Murdoch sang on "Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying," and it sounded like a mission statement; sunny-sounding British pop and sensitive alienation hadn't gone so tightly hand-in-glove since The Smiths, a comparison from which the group, however disingenuously, shies away. Sinister was followed by a series of exciting Eps (Lazy Line Painter Jane, Dog On Wheels, and 3...6...9 Seconds Of Light) that sometimes echoed that album and sometimes didn't, expanding B&S's sound in ways that worked more often than not. For every song that didn't quite connect, there were two that connected brilliantly, indicating that the eight (and sometimes more) band members weren't content to repeat a winning formula. The follow-up to Sinister, The Boy With The Arab Strap, is in the vein of those Eps. Boy offers up pleasures less immediate than Sinister, but they're ultimately just as substantial. "It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career," the title track, and "A Summer Wasting" have a familiar, acoustic-dominated sound. But then there's the antiquated electronic noises heard on "Sleep The Clock Around" and "Is It Wicked Not To Care," which hands the vocals over to a female member (the typically cryptic liner notes don't indicate a name). While it might be a better album without the spoken-word "A Space Boy Dream" and the uncharacteristically terse "Chickfactor," it's possible to see their inclusion as a good thing. (The same can't be said, of course, for the occasional moments that sing the pains-of-being-a-rock-star blues. Nobody, except possibly other rock stars, cares.) While not a pristine instant classic like its predecessor, The Boy With The Arab Strap announces that Belle & Sebastian is in it for the long haul, and seemingly committed to not standing still. As long as it keeps turning out material as lovely as the album-closing "The Rollercoaster Ride," that's a wonderful thing. --Keith Phipps Belle And Sebastian Tigermilk (Jeepster/Matador) Maybe it's no coincidence that one of the most exciting, least conventional bands to emerge in the latter half of the '90s also had one of the least conventional starts. Picked up as the project of a university marketing class, the ever-expanding Scottish band Belle And Sebastian unexpectedly achieved stardom on a small scale with its first album, Tigermilk. Expanding its audience in both Europe and the U.S. with the masterful If You're Feeling Sinister, the group proved that the world, or at least an enthusiastic cult, was ready for sensitive teen music for grownups: ornately crafted melodies accompanied by lyrics that were clever without being cute and dominated by a personality that was sensitive and retiring without being mopey. In the wake of this success, Tigermilk, originally limited to 1,000 copies, took on a nearly legendary quality, becoming widely bootlegged and even more widely sought after. Wisely, it's now been reissued legitimately, and it almost lives up to its reputation. The album-opening "The State I Am In" could sound a bit more impressive, but only because B&S cut a better version of it on an EP, and it's hard to imagine the band outdoing the versions of the two songs that follow. "Expectations" and "She's Losing It" more than live up to high standards set by the group's later work, displaying the ability to incorporate a small orchestra's worth of instruments into economical pop melodies while staking out unique lyrical territory. (For example: "Your obsessions get you known throughout the school for being strange / Making life-size models of the Velvet Underground in clay.") That's true of most of Tigermilk. The faux-electronica of "Electronic Renaissance" lends the album one of its few head-scratching moments, while "I Don't Love Anyone" finds chief songwriter Stuart Murdoch still struggling to find his voice, but nothing gets in the way of making Tigermilk an essential album for both Belle And Sebastian fans and virtually everyone else. --Keith Phipps +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk Thu Jan 13 11:16:40 2000 From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk (Elizabeth Daplyn) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:16:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I _will_ show you fear in a handful of dust Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From vibrosheep at xxx.net Thu Jan 13 13:22:08 2000 From: vibrosheep at xxx.net (vibrosheep at xxx.net) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:22:08 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <200001131322.NAA20212@mailhost.vivao.net> Angel enquired... >When, in winter, you get on the bus and are all wrapped up in >cardies, doctor who scarves, and bums padded with corduroy (sp?) why >is it that the bus is 40000 degrees??? NO - Why in winter, when you've avoided falling arse-over-tit in the snow, miraculously walked through an arch of gutter-puddle spray from White Van Man and then found a non-stop undercover route to your chosen bus stop - DO I GET TO SIT IN THE FUCKING SEAT THAT SOME DRUNKEN FUCKING WHINO TRAMP BASTARD HAS JUST THAT MINUTE PISSED ON, IN ME BEST FUCKING SUIT AND ME HOMER SIMPSON BOXERS ? That's why in 1929, I bought myself a very unenvironmentally friendly Triumph Acclaim and she's still going to this day. You're all wrong on the Traditional W - you miserable shitbags. Obviously the Trad W is going to involve some sort of visual stimulation - I don't know, say Issue number 47C of Commando comic - and an old well holed sports sock from the 3rd year of High School. Drumsticks and 3rd parties me arse - your all sick. Right I'm of to scour the Top Shelf of Alldays in some vain attempt to find Master Percussionist Monthly. Love and Wetwipes, Adrian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Thu Jan 13 14:15:27 2000 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:15:27 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Back to SSSR Message-ID: Here we are: New house,new year,(I hope)old faces, even new faces are welcome too,of course. I didn't post anything earlier as I had nothing to say with B&S content and no debate about some other more mundane affair was going on that concerned me in such way I could not refrain my impulses to add my two pences to it.The situation has not changed but there was another message from Ally Cook, who didn't drop so many quotes as in previous ones, and I forgave him generously he didn't quote me neither.Nothing to quote,true.It is a poor excuse to justify my literary incontinence, I know. Isobel's bum : It is not small, that's all I am going to say.No clue what W stood for about Richard.I am afraid I am a stereotypical pop-consummer who never notices drummers,but Superchunk's one.My friend in Spain was amazed that Stu M was never going to be again in his late 20's and I believe he is mad trying to get Stu's personal coach-for-life's direct line. He has reached the respectable age of 27 and is suffering a pre-middle age crisis. Anyone was listening to Radio One about 9.45 on Tuesday? Some song called 'Volveras' was played.I thought the aliens had invaded the earth finally when turning on my transistor,apparently tuned to Radio 1 frequency to hear some song with Spanish song-lyrics sung by someone Spanish.They are some band in Elephant Records, but who exactly? Hello to all Hackney and Stoke Newington-based Sinisterines. All the flats about there reminded me this morning strangely of the state where my parents'home is...I could have been born if I where British, I suppose. Stop being philosophical. 'Giappanese a Roma' is bad, don't buy it!!!!!!!! A. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Thu Jan 13 14:24:08 2000 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:24:08 -0500 Subject: Sinister: yet another excerpt from the recent chaiers du cinema Message-ID: <387D4556.514FF5F2@utoronto.ca> i'm only mentioning this because you seem like appropriately twee people and you would know these things. does anyone remember an animated tv series called 'the green forest' or some such? it had a bunch of forest creatures (rabit, badger, bluejay?) having various adventures... the theme music repeated "...in the green forest, the greeeeen forest...." several times. since christmas eve i havn't been able to get that out of my head. i keep thinking and thinking about it....arg. also, if these are available on video tape i'd love to know about it... i just got a vcr. its great. (or grate as the tendency around here seems to be) one of the first movies i rented was Mr. Freedom and so to whoever criticized beck's sexlaws video for just being a terry gilliam rip off i have this nugget of information: NO! it is in fact a complete Mr. Freedom rip-off. and this makes me aproximately 38 times cooler than you because _I_ know about obscure ex-patriate american photographer/directors who live and work in france and make obscure movies satirizing american culture/foreign policy and you don't. the movie even has a serge gainsbourg cameo...that is how cool it (and i by extention) is (am). of course i wouldn't know shit about it if it werent; for my friend ben. who is superfrenchman incarnate. otherwise cinematically i've been all about watching kung fu and bizzare vietnamese music videos with the sound turned off and stereolab on the hifi and seeing how it all synchs up. and zardoz. ZARDOZ Z-A-R-D-O-Z!! perhaps sean connery's finest movie ever. it really highlights his chest hair and manly physique. odak nevets +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Thu Jan 13 15:10:39 2000 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:10:39 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Bum. References: <387D4556.514FF5F2@utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <001101bf5dd8$5b76e1a0$13d7b0c2@default> Steve Kado asked... > i'm only mentioning this because you seem like appropriately twee people > and you would know these things. > > does anyone remember an animated tv series called 'the green forest' or > some such? it had a bunch of forest creatures (rabit, badger, bluejay?) > having various adventures... the theme music repeated "...in the green > forest, the greeeeen forest...." several times. since christmas eve i > havn't been able to get that out of my head. i keep thinking and > thinking about it....arg. You don't mean Acorn Green do you? Hi folks, after a short lapse in my posting duties, or something like that, I have returned to be the insane voice of Cumbernauld once again. The worst thing about insanity is, of course, the inability to control what you speak of, and I may have let slip things that I shouldn't have (you know who you are). I'm sorry. I'm insensitive and stupid and I ain't gonna let it happen again. Okay, serious bit aside, I'm going to attempt to organise another Glasgow Meetup in the near future, so if anyone has any requests or ideas, please drop me a line and let me know. Also, if anyone is going to see Death In Vegas, Muse or Beck in Glasgow, again, let me know. Well, it was a Sinister New Year for me in more than one meaning. I managed to convert a new acolyte through the wonders of my all-time favourite B&S song, TIJAMRS. I also managed to get my first kiss ever on Hogmanay, which was rather pleasant. I have now gained some sort of self-control, and am no longer attracted to ever third girl I ever meet. (on a vaguely similar line, I happen to think that Isobel's bum is fine, and has surely been mentioned enough now to warrant the Enforcer to obtain a snap of said anatomical feature for the Bodyparts page) The bad meaning was just through all the thinking time I had - I've realised that out of my four close friends, I only get along with one. I feel isolated from the others (through no fault of anyone) and have realised that after 12 years, we are finally beginning to drift apart. Who knows what the future brings, eh? Maybe I'll find a fantastic bunch of mates around the next corner, maybe I'll be stuck with just one or two for the forseeable future, or maybe something will happen to bring us all together again - although such things tend to be tragedies, which I've had quite enough of for a while thank you very much. On a B&S topic (shock! horror!) why are Jeepster not going the whole hog and putting all 4 EPs in the new box set as opposed to just 3. For that matter, why bother with the box set in the first place, why not just re-release the EPs in a style similar to Tigermilk's recent dusting-off..? I am back, people. Get over it! --Jason "And in the rapture and the charm Came the tranquil and the calm" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Archel1978 at xxx.com Thu Jan 13 16:05:00 2000 From: Archel1978 at xxx.com (Archel1978 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:05:00 EST Subject: Sinister: we've got the twenty-first century breathing down our necks Message-ID: bonjour, missprinters of the world. alexander wrote: >damn! she was a good lay. which i repeat in the interest of keeping sinister healthily un-twee. james wrote: >the lovely Archel (blatant name dropping, sorry) lead me and David to Victoria (and that's victoria *station*, not some local lady of the nuit, honest.) perhaps a kind way of reading the situation, as well. if by leading you mean walking in front, then that's what i was doing... (but only to hide the look of growing disorientation and desperation on my face.) goldfish have a better sense of direction than me. dead ones. i saw a fox on the train yesterday (well, i was on the train, the fox was sort of scrambling up the embankment). i've never seen one before in this area. was i wrong to be excited? (no, *not* sexually.) although later Sweet were on totp2 doing 'fox on the run', which is, i understand, about a sexy laydee. gran got interested at this point because whatshisname out of sweet is friends with my uncle. hurray. nice to read all those positive reviews of b&s. boyfriend (who seems to have become intriguingly anonymous, which is rather fun) has been threatening to write 'the really good bad review that's just crying out to be written', even though he likes them. must be the withdrawal symptoms of losing tigermilk to ailsa... a sad thought: when i move next week i may well have to unsubscribe. ah, such a cold word to denote what is a far more painful and complex process... my new train driver housemate/landlord had never heard of b&s, but said he likes quiet music so we could be on to a winner. just as long as sophie (also moving in) keeps her drum n bass fetish in check. so, here's to my last days of disco, luv archel xxx ps: The Other Reason I Am Sad To Be Moving Out: "So, do you think you'd like to be on the Internet, gran?" "Not really, dear. I wouldn't know one end of a net from the other." ********* Rachel Playforth archel at iname.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Thu Jan 13 16:28:45 2000 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:28:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: We want information Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000113162845.006dd868@ampsys.co.uk> Dear all, According to my sauces, namely hollandaise and cheese, which may have curdled and be most wrong, the fine Maggie Philben and the noise known as Philippa Forrester have been appended to the All Tomorrow's World presenters line up. And also the fine Super Furry Animals and the noise known as Sonic Youth are apparently now on the All Tomorrow's Parties line up. Also Kate Rusby on Radio 2 next month as part of the Folk Awards. A slice of brevity? How refreshing... I feel all David Moore-esque and for once it's got nothing to do with breasts or tubes. Te ra, Martin ear confection recordings (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boucherphilip at xxx.com Thu Jan 13 17:34:48 2000 From: boucherphilip at xxx.com (Philip Boucher) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:34:48 GMT Subject: Sinister: Death By Drama Message-ID: <20000113173448.85669.qmail@hotmail.com> This is my first real message to sinister, exept an accidental empty one, sorry about that, so firstly i am 15 years old and I live in Manchester. for my drama GCSE am being forced to sing (I cannot sing) and dance (Dancing is not a strong point either) I will have to go on stage with a solo in front of paying spectators (I am painfully shy + very quiet) for 'Joseph,' a musical i hate. So i am not feeling very happy at the moment. did anyone hear LL Painter Jane come 31st in John Peel's festive 50 last night? Good bye my friends Philip Boucher ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Thu Jan 13 19:17:32 2000 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:17:32 PST Subject: Sinister: terrible terrible cough... Message-ID: <20000113191732.4547.qmail@hotmail.com> ...i have right now... you don't want to know though... i don't really have sth important to say,i just wanted to talk.is that bad? it's one of these miserable,moody afternoons that you need someone to talk to but noone is there.do you know what i mean? so you are in frond of a soulless pc trying to convince yourself that you're not mad and that there are some people somewhere in the world that they might even read this and then they are going to start swearing to the screen because some twat-me-is writing totally stupid things which frankly they don't particulalry want to know!......... ......i think i am getting mad....... i haven't listen to any b&s for some time now.i'm into beck and the velvet goldmine ost at the mo... and writing essays...and feeling lonely.... don't you just want to feel sorry for me and cry?...aaahhh....poor girl...yeah,right! well,enough is enough and i think i should stop writing now before i get banned or whatever from this dimention(is that correct?i've been thinking for the correct spelling for some 10 mins.)that we like to call sinister... adieu mon petites amies au revoir(my french is horrible.i know) is that me or am i dreaming? zoe with an accent ps.anyone to see beck in manchester in march? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dchard at xxx.ca Thu Jan 13 22:07:33 2000 From: dchard at xxx.ca (ipecac spice) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:07:33 -0400 (AST) Subject: Sinister: yet another excerpt from the recent chaiers du cinema In-Reply-To: <387D4556.514FF5F2@utoronto.ca> Message-ID: oooh...the green forest. i think you have the name right, but i was only about 4 when it went off the air so i could be mistken. there was squirrel (chatterer?) and a blue jay and loads of other animals. that and the polka dot door. classics. it seems to me that there is an epidemic of marriage engagments lately. i find the whole thing unsettling. i feel like too much of kid to be married. my mom was 2 years younger than i am now when she got married. that's scary. i had more to rant about...but...my dad just made us omlettes so...you are all saved! -di "i respect those who have faith even though they are ignorant" -hemingway +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Thu Jan 13 22:21:30 2000 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:21:30 EST Subject: Sinister: I'm in a mess im in a dress Message-ID: <19.6e53d1.25afa9ea@aol.com> Hello all! I've had Photo Jenny running through my head all day. I started singing it in a silent english class, and I was really really embarassed. :) Is there going to be a sinister meet up in Glasgow that doesn't involve pubs and stuff and that's not too late, because if there is, I'd like to come and I won't be any trouble, I promise. I wore a skirt to school today. There was a really cool boy I know on the way home that I like, and I said 'hi' to him, which was very brave for me. And then I whispered to my trusted friend " Barry's nice, I wouldn't turn him down", and she screamed it out at the top of her voice, and he heard, so I ran away. I don't like PE, I always make an arse of myself. Today we did volleyball, and all the boys threw balls at me at once, and my glasses got bent. So i'm wearing contact lenses next time. I got tee-shirt transfer paper today, so I can make my own B&S and owls and other things tee-shirts. What is the traditional 'w'. I've seen the photo and I still don't know. I found an owl in a shop yesterday. It was 99p and very sweet. Does anyone like Lobey Dosser? I was reading a book of him today, and his horse is really nice. Pokemon's on tomorrow morning. I'm reading a book about a lady called Mrs Pepperpot. It's very twee. And she can shrink, which is cool. I've got the cold, I need a hug. Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Fri Jan 14 00:53:57 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 00:53:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: mmm orange crush Message-ID: Eeek! I have lots to say but no time. I'll just have to wave my hands around saying the List Crush is back for those who wish to get mucky, and in a new and intimidating form to prevent the outrageous vote rigging last time, as has happened before with WWW-based voting systems. For this reason you now have to vote via email by mailing Miss Crush at misscrush at missprint.org, and she's very strict about who votes and who you vote for, and how often you change your mind. She's also very cheeky: if two people vote for each other unbeknownst, she mails them both and TELLS them so the path of true love can find its way and they can get it on in their underwear under a 70s mirrored ceiling, presumably listening to 70s Who. Don't worry, she doesn't tell anyone else you're a match though (phew). Go sit on her knee and she'll tell you all about it at: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/crush.html Oh and it's new, I wrote it all with my own wee handies, so if it all falls to bits don't be surprised. :) Be gentle with me if it breaks. The idea is that it's so strict that it runs without human intervention until the end of time so that I can get on with my... important... stuff. In practise I'll be debugging it for weeks, and end up sobbing at the kitchen table, hugging my new green bear call Matthew I got from Edinburgh Zoo today, and eating too much chocolate in a state of nervous exhaustion. Honey-on-Toast xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.borgia at xxx.ca Fri Jan 14 02:10:53 2000 From: alexander.borgia at xxx.ca (Alexander Borgia) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:10:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Hukt on Fonix Werkt for Mee. References: Message-ID: <387E85AD.F3CA042F@sympatico.ca> Happy Snow Day, Sini-dos and Sini-dont's.... Yes, I am still cranky and we'll get to that later. It snowed last night. I'm not sure how much we got in inches or centimetres, I can tell you that we got enough to cover your shoes. "Shoes?" you say...Yes, when I left work yesterday I forgot to put my hiking boots on. I must say also that my shoes are not in really good shape right now and I need a new pair. But these ones are very comfortable and I like them. I hate buying shoes. Work has been somwhat stressfull lately. I sort of had to apply for my job today. This is the job I have been doing for quite some time now. But someone came up with the brainstorm to call it a project and I had to write a letter of interest with my résumé. I really hate writing my résumé so I summed up my entire career in 4 lines. Considering I have been setting type since I was 14 and I've been involved in graphic design most of my career where I work, I think I accomplished the ultimate in conciseness. Tomorrow is my meeting with the new muckety-muck to discuss my "opinions and observatons." (You may recall my anti-apathy e-mail campaign from last week) I met him for the first time yesterday and will have some fun in my meeting tomorrow. I am looking forward to all the excuses I will hear. The really good part about the whole thing is that I will be in the office where my friend works and she has offered to take me out to lunch. Since she is a muckety-muck herself I will be able to have a nice leisurely lunch before my meeting. I will add, that although my friend is exceptionally attractive and she has a really nice bum (more about bums later), I'll not have the same difficulties as with my lunch from last week because we are just friends. Mind you, the last two times we have gone for lunch there have been questions as to exactly what we were up to for being gone so long. Let 'em wonder.... A few comments on some other e-mails... Steve Kado wrote: > i'm only mentioning this because you seem like appropriately twee people > and you would know these things. > > does anyone remember an animated tv series called 'the green forest' or > some such? thinking about it....arg. Yes, I know the show you are talking about, it was called "Tales from the Green Forest". Really bad animation, kinda the teletubbies of the late seventies but without the special effects and witty dialogue. I think it came on just before or after that all time classic, Hammy Hamster (or whatever the show was called) . I'm surprised that non of them ever won any Emmys. Such good acting. I hope you realise, Steve, my mission in life now is to somehow seek revenge on you. Finally, sometime in 1986, I was able to get that stupid theme song out of my head once and for all. You have brought it back. Thanks a hell of a lot. I am now whistling the tune from Hogan's Heroes. Do you hear it? Good, I hope it gets stuck in your head for a few days and your sleep gets interupted by nightmares of being stuck in a room with Richard Dawson telling you, "Survey Says!" Arantxa Sanz wrote: > > Isobel's bum : It is not small, that's all I am going to say. I like big bums. I like Isobel's bum. That's all I am going to say. Elizabeth Daplyn wrote: > > Does anyone else have a problem with attracting nutters? Oh yes. This much I can assure you, if a woman is a nutter, I have dated her, am dating her, or I am about to date her. But it's not only nutty women. I also get accosted by the men. A few years ago, this total loonie used to come and bother me at lunch almost every day. He was about 65 years old or so, always dressed in clothing left that was most likely older than I, based upon the style, the fabric was so synthetic that it would probably see Y3K. He was short and thin, but kinda wiry and every day he would come by and call me names or try to pick a fight with me. I ignored him, but he kept coming back. He was also quite loud so it always looked as though I was accosting him. This kind of stuff happens to me all the time and no matter how much I avoid these types of people they seem to still manage to find me. Here's one that got me wondering. Occasionally I get submissions sent directly to me for the e-zine. Since I'm only the pictures guy and I do a lot of the background administrative stuff, people still send me stuff. Now the zine is gothic-erotic. It is totally warped and I don't read anything on there. Not even when I do the page set-up (old typographers trick where you can get away without reading some of the crap you set). I like doing the graphics because I get to do it in black and white a lot and I enjoy working in B&W...but that's all something else. Funny thing though, I am the least gothic person on the planet. The only black clothing I own is one tee-shirt from a computer supplier and my socks. B So this guy sends me a story and I accidently read it. It is about him going nuts in his car and driving into a crowd of ethnics. Now from what I gather, the story is neither gothic nor erotic. I sent it to the oher people. I'm still wondering about this one. And in case you didn't notice, the B&S content was the bit about Isobel's bum. Okay, so there was absolutely no reason for me to say this, you are right. I just wanted to say Isobel's bum again. There, I said it again, and I will do it again, Isobel's bum. Alexander Damn, my connection sucks tonight so I can't even go look at naked pictures on the net...I wonder if The Major left Toy Story here....that mom has a cute bum too. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sadandsentimental at xxx.com Fri Jan 14 02:56:10 2000 From: sadandsentimental at xxx.com (Curtis Heath) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:56:10 -0600 Subject: Sinister: "another bus related post" or "boy steals tweedom from Sanrio" Message-ID: Maybe you all remember that I drive a bus for a living. A school bus. Today a new boy bent down before the front wheels to pick up his treasures. I stepped down and asked, "What are you doing down there?" "I'm picking up my acorns," he replied. "Why? That's a dangerous place where you are!" "I collect acorns." "How many do you have?" "Lots." "Where do you keep them?" "At home in a box that says 'NUTS'." Something about that was interesting. . LYCOShop is now open. On your mark, get set, SHOP!!! http://shop.lycos.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_leak at xxx.uk Fri Jan 14 08:34:12 2000 From: chris_leak at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?CHRIS=20LEAK?=) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:34:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Wee as well as Twee? Message-ID: <20000114083412.16799.qmail@web1304.mail.yahoo.com> Hi I'm now back at work after Christmas and feel strangely compelled to comment on B&S merchandise, especially given all this talk of "twee" being banded about. Not long before Christmas I sent away for my Brown Bus T-Shirt (medium) and awaited eagerly for its arrival. The big day day came and unfortunately so did probably the smallest garment I've ever purchased. Now I'm not the largest of people (I'm only 5ft 8" and of smallish build). Foolishly (and somewhat out of pride) I forced the garment over my head. As I've mentioned I'm quite slightly built and this description extends to my head which is perfectly in proportion with the rest of me. After a titanic struggle the garment popped down over my head, covered my stomach to just below my navel and I was left feeling like I had a Frank Sidebottomesque sized head. Somewhat dejectedly I have sent the garment back and had it replaced with a large which is still a bit on the small side but my new year diet will soon sort that out! Anyway, my question is: are all B&S fans stick like in their stature? Or am I just a lot larger than my self image? Bless Leaky P.S. With all this talk of twee and kitschness, has anyone been to the Tiger Lounge in Manchester? I imagine a lot of list subscribees would like it. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peter.ramsdale at xxx.com Fri Jan 14 09:10:32 2000 From: peter.ramsdale at xxx.com (Pete Ramsdale) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:10:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Wee as well as Twee? References: <20000114083412.16799.qmail@web1304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <387EE808.D844318E@wdr.com> Chris said: and he was absolutely spot on. If I remember rightly, which I very rarely do these days, there'll probably be a bit in the golden tomes of wit which pass for the list archives about my own circulation-stopping t-shirt disaster. I purchased a Stow t-shirt in my normal size of medium (okay, so I'm six foot tall, so jeepster could probably argue that it's my fault for being a total spanner, but I don't like my t-shirts baggy. At all.) and when I tried it on it came down to just past my chest. Well, actually that's a bit of a lie, it *does* come down to my hips (but with not a lot of leeway), but also succeeds in cutting off the blood flow to my head and arms. And it's so tight you can see my nipples through it. Oh. That means I owe the body parts page a chest, some hips, a head, some arms and some nipples. Oh bollocks. AAAAARGH! Now *that's* torn it....... I'm going to quit while I'm behind (shit, that's another bit I owe then...), arrrr-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding, arrrr-ding-ding-ding*, lol p xx. * No prizes for guessing which song this comes from. Simply because I have no idea who the band were, and what it was called. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordiet at xxx.com Fri Jan 14 11:39:01 2000 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: 14 Jan 2000 03:39:01 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Back to SSSR Message-ID: <20000114113901.24929.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From Mark at xxx.com Fri Jan 14 10:05:48 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:05:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: An appariton quick from inside the crypt Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22B71FF0@SERVER1> Well, if the embarrassingly poorly stocked HMV at Bond Street can have a ready supply of all B&S's singles, I'm sure a box set isn't exactly essential. But the picture of that lady making the traditional W sign with her hand is a good one --yet another example of B&S's charming way of being wude and then metaphorically running away. I'm not quite sure why I said that, but it's a motif I've noticed a few times - The Boy with the Arab Strap - ooh, naughty! - the little boy on the badge and his two-fingered salute - playing South Park music before coming on stage at the Supper Club - that sort of thing. Aren't they cheeky scamps? Having said all that, it just makes me love them more. Stuart Murdoch is the dogs, he really is. We're very lucky. Unsurprisingly, it was Another Storming Post from Ailsa that inspired this little note (I was thinking I'd accidentally subbed to david-moore-digest for a while). She also mentioned Johnny Depp - my mum had a starry look in her eyes the other night, and when I asked her why it turned out she'd just met Mr Depp, and found him rather beautiful. I must admit that if I played for the other side (which I *don't*, by the way, certain people out there who suspect otherwise), he'd probably make my heart flutter somewhat. I checked out that Onion best albums of 99 thing - who on earth are The Roots? Are they any good? Is there something we should know? Liz Daplyn wrote again, which is another Very Good Thing (/me realises how arselicky he's being, but frankly these people deserve all the bigging up they get, so ner), even if her writing style makes you feel slightly seasick as she jumps from metaphor to rhyming slang to iambic pentameter to French, for god's sake (I've just noticed Archel dropping in the odd bit of French too - see what a university education does for you, kids!)! I think I may have to stop her and Enthusiastic Pamela Hutchinson from entering my quizzes in the future - I'm no doubt contributing to a sordid slide into alcoholism, prostitution and lonely death. Beck bores me. Twerp. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian at xxx.uk Fri Jan 14 13:13:14 2000 From: ian at xxx.uk (ian) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:13:14 -0000 Subject: Sinister: now wash your hands Message-ID: <000001bf5e91$4dbc05e0$4b4e883e@default> hello my sons and daughters of the morning....i hope the new century is beginning to twinkle with the inner brilliantness that you all know you have.. oh, shit....i forgot i was the gay dirty den there for a minute... hello, fuckers...wanna make somethin of it? yeah, that's better. so, you're asking yourself....is there some point to this e-mail...well, yes there is. here are the long-awaited (and probably long forgotten) results of the "choose a name for b&s's new album" competition. well, my dears, we had a huge number of entries, nearly making it into double figures, and it was hard to whittle them all down to a couple of favourites, but i am a matyr to my cause: in third place we have Antti Koskiranta..with the worthy "attack of the 50ft cellist". what a picture...our belle striding over the houses, armed with a bow, on a mission to make the world groovy..will she do it? who knows? such missions usually end in failure. and making the world groovy is a pretty gigantic task. but i'm sure our heroes will try their hardest. in second place..., simon gooch with 'They Don't Do Blue Coffees Here Madeline, No Style' chosen chiefly for its utter irrelevance to anything which is always important in an album title. in my opinion, more bands should append nonsensical titles to their musical creations. nice try simon, better luck next time.. the winner is...the lovely alasdair cook, for the deadly "Have a wank with...". simple, but beautifully effective, i'm sure you'll agree. no clever tricks here, just the old cliche of linking sex and music which still maintains as much relevance today as it did when dean martin first crooned "yo! bitch! come sit on my cock!"... alasdair gets the ian silver star of approval.. and the prize, if you wish it...simply send me your address and you will receive either a night with bonnie langford or an alternative prize of equal value chosen by the organisers of this contest... either that, or you'll get yourself a stalker. that's the risk you take.. well, i think its nice every so often to mention something someone else wrote, so here it is...the nameless xtensioncord wrote the following: >Pop Music cannot be fully debated and defended since it's >roots are in money and the blooming media. It's based in luxuries not >necessities. true...but then again, this could apply to any art form. i'm sure i don't need to point out that "art" as we know it today is largely a question of having your work stamped with approval from the correct source, of getting your work to a gallery... (puts on his reactionary hat) when someone can exhibit an unmade bed and be one of the frontrunners for the turner prize (yes, yes, i know that anything can be art but once you've had duchamp exhibiting a urinal and manzoni canning and selling his own shit that point has pretty much been made) and countless other people die in obscurity that shows how that game is one of luck, and being discovered. the same can apply to any other form of art you choose to focus on. yes, there's plenty of it about, and those that are successful are frequently those that least deserve to be, but art is always going to be based in luxuries, not necessities... and its always going to be defined to some extent by pennies.. does this make all art undiscussable? as for the new vs. old debate..well, of course there's new music being made. its possible to make a pastiche of something that has already gone and actually improve on it. the melody maker poll for music of the millenium placed the stone roses at no 2, one place above the beatles.. whether or not you agree with that (and i don't), it demonstrates that music which is heavily derivative, yet reinvigorated, and suffused with the spirit of the time in which it is performed, is bound to be more relevant to many than the roots from which it sprang... or to drag my analogy on further...remember that without the roots, there would be no tree, but don't forget to eat the fruit every now and again. having said that, a lot of my record collection dates from the late 1960s.. hmmmm...there was lots more but this is becoming a very long post... i shall go now, off for a traditional W, and leave you with today's music-related joke. Q: how do you make a duck into a singer? A: put it in a microwave and its bill withers... geddit? of course, i could never actually countenance doing such a thing.. anyway, i've tried it and it doesn't work... yeah? wanna make something of it? yer dealing with the gay dirty den here... good-bye for now my shimmerers.. waffly ian ps..ailsa said PS receiving compliments on my posts from ian is rather like Noel Gallagher receiving compliments on his lyrical sensitivity and genius from Struan. But thanks anyway :) It worked. *glows with pleasure*...thank you, duck...for the compliment. but you are no noel gallagher. you are cooler than a scottish sarah cracknell and the thinking man's duffel-coat wearer of the year. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Fri Jan 14 13:39:40 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:39:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: i remember the days... a reply to the Jen with the cold and PE teachers Message-ID: <20000114133940.11532.qmail@web606.mail.yahoo.com> > > I've had Photo Jenny running through my head all > day. I started singing it in > a silent english class, and I was really really > embarassed. :) could be worse. trust me. IT JUST COULD. I have fond memories of having stevie wonder songs stuck in my head when I was at school and chasing the boys and singing them to them until they agreed to be my boyfriend (providing I let them look up my skirt at afternoon break). mind you, I was six years old. > Is there going to be a sinister meet up in Glasgow > that doesn't involve pubs > and stuff and that's not too late, because if there > is, I'd like to come and > I won't be any trouble, I promise. pubs are smokey and I've quit smoking. > I wore a skirt to school today. There was a really > cool boy I know on the > way home that I like, and I said 'hi' to him, which > was very brave for me. > And then I whispered to my trusted friend " Barry's > nice, I wouldn't turn him > down", and she screamed it out at the top of her > voice, and he heard, so I > ran away. > look, I hate to be snobby about these things, but I don't like the name barry. Fine if his surname is white. But Baz....oh dear. Conjures up nasty images of car windscreen stickers. Plus I went to school with a barry and he was nasty to me. So were the Donna's I went to school with. scary screwball perms and liquorice red lipstick. And Livi accents. I always thought the name Jasmine was nice...if I had a baby girl when I'm old and stuff. Or for a cat. depends what happens when I hit thirty. baby or a cat. When I was at school stuff like that frequently happened to me. I'd fancy a boy and someone would tell the world, and 'd spend the rest of the school year hiding somewhere in the library and denying that I fancied him. I remember I msaw this one bloke at school I'd never seen before. I thought he was cute. And he smiled at me. And I was completely bowled over. So I tried to smile back, all seductively and sophisticated and stuff, coy and alloof, and sexy. And he said hi. And I kept up the act. And subsequently tripped down an entire flight of stairs, sending my books, notes and specs flying. And I didn't hear the end of it for a year. And he ran to look over, with all these other girls from my year who were clever but bitches cos they bullied me, and they stood laughing and giggling. And I just wanted the ground to open up and swallow me whole. And everytime they saw me they'd ask if I enjoyed my trip. > I don't like PE, I always make an arse of myself. > Today we did volleyball, > and all the boys threw balls at me at once, and my > glasses got bent. So i'm > wearing contact lenses next time. I hated PE. I hated hurdles (thighs and boobs squished up to hop over a stick....) I hated high jump (once a year, and I always tried to avoid it) I hated girls basketball, cos you knew you'd never get picked, and it was embarrassing when you finally were, cos you knew the team would be better off without you cos your short. and volleyball was annoying. slamming a ball against your wrists....it hurts! These wrists are gentle! if I want muscly wrists, don't these people think I'd have done something to make them strong enough to wallop balls with? grrr. Gym,. I hated it. And where do schools find their PE teachers from? why must PE teachers have flopping shaggy perms, and shellsuits, and look like they audtioned for Gregory's girl?? and thats just the male ones. one of our PE teachers was a right perv. made this girl do a handstand, cos he knew she wasn't wearing a bra, and he held her feet up for her. And whenever we had country dancing with him, and he'd take us for a whisk at gay gordons, he always held his hand on your arse. Another PE teacher apparently had an affair with a schoolgirl. I hated PE. my recomendation? well, this flu thing is going about at the moment right? and the doctor on richard and Judy said you shouldn't do any excercise until you are completely 100% fit again. I can do that. Makes sense. puts strain on your lungs, what, cos of all that coughing. So cough a bit and pretend you're shaking off the flu. Brilliant for swimming too, cos you know, water, cold water, and wet hair and stuff...not good for getting rid of flu. have flu all year long. Also food poisoning is good. Or a "sprained ankle"- just limp all day and say you bashed it and went to hospital and the doctor said to rest it for a week. > > I got tee-shirt transfer paper today, so I can make > my own B&S and owls and > other things tee-shirts. What is the traditional > 'w'. I've seen the photo and > I still don't know. > the traditional "w"??? I dunno. Oh, I see Avalanche in Edinburgh are offering a t shirt deal...buy any B+S merchindise and get the avalanche t shirt for a fiver. I got it in the summer. Its quite cool, a piccie of the TV show of B+S set against a 70's esque Phillips TV thingy. I want to make my own t shirts all the time. I was ythinking about taking a scrap of note paper, and writing a poem on it, then printing it onto a t shirt and publishing and advertising my own poetry. Of course, I'll need money for a blank t shirt. Or writing Idleberry on a tshirt. > I found an owl in a shop yesterday. It was 99p and > very sweet. > my brother got me a power puff girl and it is so cool. Buttercup. > Does anyone like Lobey Dosser? I was reading a book > of him today, and his > horse is really nice. > > Pokemon's on tomorrow morning. > power puff girls are on at 4pm on Cartoon network. > I'm reading a book about a lady called Mrs > Pepperpot. It's very twee. And she > can shrink, which is cool. > I read that story when I was little. I'm reading a Norewgian novel about two little 11 year olds who have a pyschic connewction and one day they take all their clothes off and look at each other naked and the next day, one little girl is so ashamed she skips school and goes to this frozen waterfall and explores it, butr she gets lost inside cos its full of so many rooms, and she freezes to death and dies and her pal is really upset. > I've got the cold, I need a hug. > I just finished having flu and I need a hug too. I was up all night coughing and having funny dreams. Hope its calmed down by tomorrow. I have no energy. And I haven't had a ciggarette since last Friday! I am so impressed with myself! I haven't craved one either prolly cos of this flu. okay, gotta go now. bye bye! idle ===== visit the idle site:www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/5117 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ECSAMENZ at xxx.uk Fri Jan 14 13:53:37 2000 From: ECSAMENZ at xxx.uk (Menzies Amy) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:53:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: nalda said Message-ID: <61DE2ADF138DD3118E2700062B00055AA8FFE6@exch-student.livjm.ac.uk> hi, i've been kind of absent for a while, so i don't know if this has been done to death already..., but has any one else read nalda said, stuart davids book? my friend got it for me as a sort of late christmas present thing, and i've just finished it and it was nice. if any one else has read it what do they reckon? plus, what is with channel 5??!!! i really think it's time it gave up. amy xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Fri Jan 14 14:11:57 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:11:57 EST Subject: Sinister: sinister: 'W' Message-ID: <33.5616ac.25b088ad@aol.com> it stands for 'whatever' its a teenybopper type thing where you put your thumbs together and point your index fingers out on both sides forming the "W" california valley-girlesque type thing. iris i am drunk with gravity +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alan.singfield at xxx.com Fri Jan 14 14:17:22 2000 From: alan.singfield at xxx.com (Alan Singfield) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:17:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Nalda Said Message-ID: <6357CBA4ECC4D211A67C00805FD787D7065DD2@shuban.isoftplc.com> NALDA SAID The voice in my head reading it was Stuart David's, thats for sure. It's a charming little book, and a natural progression from his spoken word stories. Does that sound pretentious? I hope so; the last book review I wrote was when I was at school and I don't think it was much better! TRADITIONAL W By "W", I assume we are referring to the dying Traditional Werthers Original custom. This involves discretely passing a sticky brown sweet to a friendly partner, exchanging winks, then giving them a damn good hand shandy in full view of the congregation. The custom is dying due to most of the practicers either a) going to prison or b) receiving treatment for RSI. BUT WE AT SINISTER CAN REVIVE IT! By posting sweets to each other, and using the remote wanking machine, we will preserve the Traditional W well into the 21st century! Back to lurking, Spanners. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Fri Jan 14 14:44:43 2000 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:44:43 -0000 Subject: Sinister: FW: remember what you see is not a mystery Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB699D80FA@park_ex> > Oh, what a week :( > > I've been busier than a busy thing at work and I have no money and no > where fun to go :( > > However, as always, I have my lovely fluffy e-mail chums to raise my > spirits (well, that and the embassy world darts, WWWWWWOOOONNNN UUUNNDRED > AN EEEEIIIIIIIGGGGHHHHTTTTYYY, poor old andy "the viking" fordham, i rilly > felt for him last night, still, thats darts). > > dimensionyflippy ian has been talking about being the gay dirty den, which > reminds me that *noone knows* if dirty den is rilly dead or not cos the > body they found didn't have a head. > > > a hunched figure walks into the vic > "this used to be ALL mine, angie? sharon? where's roly?" > > JEN and idleberry have started a PE thread and I have a question, before I > add my two pences to it. > > Is there anyone on the list who WAS NOT picked last at games? > > I don't mean to be rude, but sporting prowess is not something I expect > from you lot (football at picnics excluded), intellectual prowess, yes, > sexual prowess, definately, but I can't imagine there are many former > school captains/quarterbacks/top batsmen out there. > > *steve sits back and waits to be proven wrong :) > > Anyway, my PE days were as horrid as the usual, but my PE teacher, a > gentleman by the name of John Burton, was a particularly bad specimen. > Fat, old and useless (and also a local "folk" singer), used to send us on > "cross-countries" whenever it was too cold for him to stand outside. > Anyway, he's now on the telly every now and again cos he's Tony Blair's > Election Agent and I throw things at the telly when he comes on (always > miss though, shows what a crap job he did). > > I assumed "the traditional W" was flicking the Vs with both hands at once, > but apparently not. > > All Tomorrow's Puking is now apparently 105 squids per bed, although at > least the line up has some bands who've sold more than 10 albums on now... > > CarsmileSteve > > ps watch Peter Kaye on Channel 4 on weds night, he's truly truly GRATE, > haven't laughed so much in ages. > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From coool_air at xxx.com Fri Jan 14 15:44:58 2000 From: coool_air at xxx.com (Claire Timmins) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 07:44:58 PST Subject: Sinister: top trojan tunes Message-ID: <20000114154458.68123.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello the masses. I have a dream...It is that you lovely bunch make your twice a year appearance at the next, and perhaps the best...IN-TUNE. On January the 21st at the 13th Note Cafe, Kings Street, Glasgae, In-Tune returns providing a fuzzy range of punk, funk, disco, trojan and 70's rock. These fearsome genres will be offered to you by a lurking KEITH Watson, no. 48 MICK Cooke, perhaps even a healthier ALASDAIR Cooke (Mick's brother), a surprise guest and ME. Hope that you can make it, it'll be cheap, both entry and booze and women. It'd be good to see you guys, I'm off to the depths of sheffield in a couple of weeks so need to have things to be homesick about. see yous later folks, take care, Claire** ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk Fri Jan 14 15:07:02 2000 From: pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk (Pamela Hutchinson) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:07:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: mystery solved!ish Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From starpiekat at xxx.uk Fri Jan 14 16:33:28 2000 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:33:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: I'm the baddest natural predator you ever saw! Message-ID: <20000114163328.14615.qmail@web1701.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Wankers, The Traditional W is obviously HAVING A WANK. Get over it. And I'm sick of so much cute and cuddliness! As a result of which, I've decided to do my own personal Pinochet and destroy everything in a load of purges (like GODZILLA but with military uniforms) and then give everyone something to moan about so you can be BAD TEMPERED like me. Grr, arrg.* Hey Steve, I wasn't always picked last in PE. Thats because I was either skiving off, or me and my mates had just ignored the pickings and joined our own team anyway. I was GRATE at PE according to my PE teacher. She must have been on LSD. Perhaps that would be fun, no? Newness in music? Don't be so ACADEMIC for gods sake, how can music be talked about as new when with each leaden sentence you're making it seem more like a hallowed piece of poncing by Yeats! Don't try and define what NEW is in regards to music - music right, it COULD be the place for sharp definitions. For what is right and what is wrong, what makes money and what doesn't, but its not! Music deals in UNSPECIFICS for the majority and its those shades of grey, heck, pink orange green blue yah de yah that make it so Fantastic. That never stops me from trying to deal in specifics though. I'm just so post-modern, and paradoxical, and poetic! Speaking of which, I'll get round to the poetry parrot....later. I had this poem by John Clare which I liked. Unfortunately the poem was not commited to memory and I left it back at home. It is a good pome though. Even though he has a GURLS last name. Ha! What I'm against is turning Music into Poetry, and the resultant fawning and 'intellectual debate' that results as which. Of course I like intelligence and wit and STUFF in my P!O!P!, but too often people turn it inverse. IE, intelligence becomes 'intelligence' and 'wit' and thus, BOLLOCKS. The Beauty of Pop is in its paradoxes. Don't discuss, else we'll turn into a GCSE 'Popular Music Studies' exam, NEAB Syllabus. And its too SPECIAL for that to happen. Sod off I'm ill, wankers, Love you anyway Sarah xo * That really DOES lose its emphasis when you know its the name of kittens.. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dchard at xxx.ca Fri Jan 14 17:31:32 2000 From: dchard at xxx.ca (ipecac spice) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:31:32 -0400 (AST) Subject: Sinister: busses and gym class Message-ID: hi. sorry to bother you all 2 days in a row. i am procrastinating. i have only one class on fridays. mind and brain. it's philosophy yet we cover some neurosci. how ironic that after nearly 4 years of university and pschology and attempts to avoid neurosci like the plague, that i end up getting neurosci in a philosophy elective. well. i for one was quite pleased to discover that the small brown bus tee is actually small. i am one of those little stick like b&s fans. usually all tees are big and as i like them fitted i never wear them. once a man came into my work and felt the need to comment on how short i am by saying: "you must be some sort of pygmi or something"! i just smiled. what could i say? i'm practically 5'3" i didn't think that was THAT short. i was often one of the last picked in gym class even though i had friends and in retrospect was probably one of the cool crowd. it was terrible. even my best friend wouldn't pick me. i was small and shy so i would never go after the ball in any sport. i was only good at running. i think that gym teachers should pick teams by numbering kids 1,2 or something. i don't understand why they'd be so cruel as to let children pick their own teams. whoever mentioned the poor climate control on busses was bang on. today it's -20 (or something, with the windchill). the busses i was on were either too hot or too cold. tonight i am going to watch the taping of "this hour has 22 minutes". for those of you who don't know (which i'm sure is the vast majority) it's a canadian spoof of news shows. it's very witty. i'm really looking forward to it. one last thing. does anyone know anything about nalda said coming out in canada. it's not in any of the books stores here (halifax) and i checked the chapters website and they'd never heard of it. i found it on amazon, but it ends up being a very expensive book if i order it from there. ok, i'm going. i hope everyone enjoys the weekend. if anyone has actually read this far thanks. i love you! -di "i respect those who have faith even though they are ignorant" -hemingway +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Fri Jan 14 19:01:00 2000 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:01:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Not last but maybe least In-Reply-To: Message-ID: About Steve's affair with to be or not to be picked at sports, the only one I was respectably good at it was basketball,which it seemed painfully boring,but here you go, a pretty good defensive pivot I made,in spite of my not astoundingly big size. But,hey,I shared the same problem that GlamPam exposed: my behaviour during the games was quite distant from the one expected from a lady.In my case,it was not about swearing, I went for the real thing: even biting,yes.That's how twee one is.I spent for time expulsed than playing... On Melody Maker's taste, someone told me some time ago it had become quite close to Smash Hits.Whatever should I add to this?All this Spanish child-pop band-members were in Benicassim 1996 wearing Bis T-shirts and as some Spanish proverb says ,if I am able to translate it properly,'from those storms, we got all this mud'.Muddy,that's what they are. I am going to be shown the red card if I continue down that lane,so I will stop here.Have a good and drunk Friday night out A. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Fri Jan 14 19:26:52 2000 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (Angel Blackwell) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:26:52 EST Subject: Sinister: dancing wanker Message-ID: <20000114192652.17951.qmail@hotmail.com> I was last to be picked at games when I was little because I was a very, uh, large child and asthmatic (though they thought I was just fat and outta shape.) Then I solved that problem, in Grade 10 I took dance instead. A now 6' 125lb Angel became graceful. I think I cleared up the debate of whether or not I was gay right then and there...heehee. I did my exam to Depeche Mode, I was sooooooooo gay. My boss officially had LL Painter Jane banned from my warehouse. Ooops. And my trashcan sinatras album finally bit the big one. They let me play labradford and godspeed you black emperor cuz they just don't understand it at all... Big hugs out to all the flu sufferers...I think I may have missed out on it, but I called my Gran in Manningtree to make sure she's okay. It's so cute, she hears a male Canadian accent and automatically she thinks I'm my dad. So cute. I had a letter to the editor printed in Xtra this week. I sound like a real bitch, I'm happy. It was a comment about homos embracing religion...I think I made a few people angry. I was going to get in on the whole originality/significance of pop but I only have an English degree so I'm not very academic... :) the angel blackwell... "daddy says I french kiss the best..." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From robhalcrow at xxx.net Fri Jan 14 19:36:25 2000 From: robhalcrow at xxx.net (robhalcrow at xxx.net) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:36:25 GMT Subject: Sinister: It's Trad W, Dad Message-ID: <200001141936.TAA14586@shaggy.lineone.net> I said (only to myself) I wasn't gonna post anymore. If you can't trust yourself who can you trust? Trad W gave me awful visions of a groaning Acker Bilk. Would he take his bowler hat off? B&S on The Tube was all very well but the real highlight in this house was "Cheer Up" Peter Reid in the bar with Macca. Alright, in the background round the corner, then. (Indie Pop Stars On Trains Part2: On the way to Sunderland to see them nearly beat Man U I shared the air (in and out of unwholesome lungs) with Gene's Martin Rossitter). Peter Reid is a Messiah of sorts. As for the other one, my brother (who is dep.ed of The War Cry y'know) told me he reckons Christ himself got 'inebriated' cos when the Pharisees accused him he didn't bother to deny it. And didn't they get through a lot of wine? Cliff might have to rethink his next release. The old/new music thing..... When people did last try specifically to come up with a new way of writing music they got 12 tone (10 more than The Specials admittedly) and that's pretty near unlistenable, isn't it? All there really is, it seems to me is new mixtures of old ingredients. Being new isn't a virtue in itself. For me, I love a blinding tune, which is something timeless. That's what drew me to B&S in the first place. Regardless of lyrics Stu M has a great way with a tune. Someone said bass players get the weird groupies. So if any weird groupies want to get in touch............ I'm surprised no-one on the list mentioned Hal Hartley's The Book of Life on BBC 2 (sorry non-British people). I only watched it cos Sinister people had raved about him. I thought the story was intriguing and PJ Harvey did a good job as Mary Magdalene. The music worked very well. My only problem was the slow jerky blurry camera. It was really.......unnerving? distracting? annoying? So much to say, so little of interest so I'll leave it there. Remember: fool's approval stings. Yours Rob. PS Don't forget the Ear Confection site: www.send.demon.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Fri Jan 14 20:19:53 2000 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (Owen Lowery) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:19:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: make a new cult every day Message-ID: <387F84E9.22CCD848@students.stir.ac.uk> 'allo chums In a bid to look not too twee I would like to point out that I didn't get picked last for games at school...In fact I was always first picked for cricket (hmm what was I saying about not being too twee) and picked quickly for football (mainly cos I was a goalkeeper and nobody else wanted to go in goal). This of course means that I am now viewed as sporty by some people especially now that I have to take care of my fingers when goalkeeping so that I don't break them before the uni cricket teams tour (I didn't know they played much cricket in Barcalona but that's where we're going) as they are needed if you're a spin bowler (the tweeest of all jobs in cricket). by the way is tweeest the correct spelling or tweest? I'd like to take this opportunity to say that Rob was damn right...Peter Reid is God. I had a nutter talk to me on the bus today, she said I looked like I was in a boy band, I think she meant it as a compliment but who knows. Actually I was once mistaken for a member of Boyzone (not sure which one) by a girl at her 6th birthday party, I had to explain to her nicely that I wasn't which was quite difficult as I was being put off by the girls mum who fell off her chair laughing. I also got told that I looked like Hugh Grant the other month (It was my mother who laughed at that one). It's very strange people saying that I look like good looking people, and it's a few years since anyone told me I looked like Rodney Trotter or Albert Steptoe. It freaks me out though, I'm not used to being considered as anything other than bloody ugly, it's hard to adjust to just being 'a bit funny looking' I've taken up far too much of your time and not mentioned B&S once (oh look I just mentioned tham thats good) I'm going back home untill February tomorrow so goodbye till then and a special goodbye to whoever gave me the listcrush vote. love and hugs owen with that the narrow wizard buggered off. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From porterww at xxx.edu Fri Jan 14 21:07:24 2000 From: porterww at xxx.edu (Will Porter) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:07:24 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: I was gonna say something about the cruellest month... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ...but I've got an issue about other people thinking I'm derivative. ipecac sed: > once a man > came into my work and felt the need to comment on how short i am by > saying: "you must be some sort of pygmi or something"! i just smiled. what > could i say? i'm practically 5'3" i didn't think that was THAT short. Could be worse. As I was home for the holidays, I was getting pleasantly drunk in one of the local dives. I went into the bathroom, and was having a perfectly delightful wee, when a mustached man of about 45 (and no pixie himself) clapped me on the back and said "You're a big kid! I bet you play football [the merkin kind]!" I responded "aw, not anymore [a baldfaced lie--I never did play football]." He then proceeded to ask me when and where I /had/ played football. After much stuttering and a couple more lies, I tried to leave, when he gruffly shook my hand (not having washed his own), introduced himself, and proceeded to ask if I used to block for Longwell (our town's sole export to the NFL--a kicker), to which I responded in the affirmative [another lie.... maybe I should get help]. hmm. Also, as I was home for the holidays, I became further convinced that Oregon is a much, much better place than Texas. Case in point: I've never met anyone who, never having left Oregon, proclaims it to be 'the promised land' or 'the best place on earth.' In fact, most of us complain about Oregon and how badly we want to leave until we end up in someplace like Texas, and find out that Oregon is really quite nice. with regard to all of us being tiny, I am not. I stand 6 feet, 4 inches (something like 1.95 meters) and I have mighty big shoulders (and a bigger waist than I care to admit). I would like to be small though--does that count? Incidentally, when dealing with tall people, remember that when we get things off of the top shelf for you, we are doing something nice, and it would be nice if you showed some sort of gratitude. Oh, and don't call us 'big guy,' we've heard it before, and it wasn't even funny the first time. regarding high school athletics, I swam. This resulted in no end of teasing and badgering from the wrestling team, the members of which apparently thought there was something scandalously homoerotic about swimming, but not about wrestling (even the Greco-Roman kind), though I still can't guess why. And so began my days of being just a little ashamed about what I do. You should hear the mumbles and stutters I emit while explaining that I'm a librarian. If any of you foreign types think /you/ don't like americans, imagine growing up with them. I often find myself muttering 'yeah, but they're /my/ dumb bastards.' To be fair, I'm not sure if it's just my countrypeople I don't like because I haven't really been anywhere else, except Canada, which is a lot more like the US than Canadians like to admit. There, I said it. uhm ok bye Will +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From modpopstar at xxx.com Fri Jan 14 21:25:03 2000 From: modpopstar at xxx.com (Leyla McNickle) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:25:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: be gentle, it's our first time Message-ID: <20000114212503.12913.qmail@web302.mail.yahoo.com> Be gentle, its our first time. we are so scared we want to do it together. okay, thats out of context. Hello Sinister listee's. This is a joint post...from the entire chapter of Belle and Sebastian fans..or so it seems..in Atlanta. (turns to sarah...) Leyla: shall we introduce ourselves? Sarah: this is weird,...stop typing what i say. Leyla: its okay, they know its our first time. Sarah: stop with the sexual innuendoes!!! Leyla: okay...well...lets just er...say hello. Hello : from leyla Hello: from Sarah Leyla: Sarah and I are good friends, she made me join the Sinister list, yay!..She also introduced me to the world of B&S... now i am as cool as she. Sarah:Leyla is one of my favorite people in the whole world! She & I are going to London together to see the sights... Leyla: I would just like to say..everyone..spell it "favourite" damn it. Yes, we are going to be hitting the streets of london and edinburgh from march 2 to the 13th. If you see some silly drunk rockstars.. (there will be 6 of us)..say hello. I'll be the tall one with fucked up hair. (though i pretend i have reason to have fucked up hair cos i think i am mod, but im not) Sarah: You are too mod, Leyla, don't be modest. Leyla was born in London and prefers the 'proper' way to spell... Bollocks!!! Leyla: yes, im not really modest, but..this is the B&S list..so i have to be shy..and demure. If she gets to say bollocks..i get to say WANK!! yeah! ANYWAY Various Belle and Sebastian fun facts: Sarah: met stuart murdoch and Belle! and Chris too! Leyla: didn't see B&S because no one would take her, but my parents dont mind hearing B&S when i play it..only band they dont complain about. Sarah: I just got a new bootleg of B&S! It has the song Lord Anthony on it, which is brilllllllllllliant. (with lots of L's) ..and a version of Slow Graffiti that makes me cry... Leyla: Sarah gave me a B&S pin. So now i am a true rockstar. ahhhh yeh. WE also met Angela off of the Sinister list...for our own type of B&S meetup at a pub in atlanta. Sarah: Angela, aka I Hate My Last Name, lovely girl really! Leyla: Sarah is going to dye her hair black. then we will be in Suede. I wont talk about suede though...cos's this is B&S. (p.s. i am neil codling, i swear) Sarah: Black won't really suit me and I have a fear of looking goth, but It is the only color I haven't tried. Sorry Leyla, colour. Leyla: :) Sarah is lying, she is goth. She loves skinny puppy and bondage clothing. Okay, just kidding. She doesnt. She is a hipster. LEYLA SCREAMS: "THIS POST IS TOO LONG, WE ARE KILLING THEM!!" Sarah: All the posts are long, no one really reads them the whole way through... Leyla keeps singing me praises, but really it is she who rocks the casbah!! Leyla saunters down the cold streets of Atlanta with a sense of self assurance that could make a shy bald buddhist cry. LEyla: So if they dont read it..can i say.. WANK! Wank!. yay. No. I dont care. ANyhow. I am shy, damn it. I like Belle and Sebastian, remember? Sarah is great. I am her little friend. Okay, so im 6ft tall, and she is what...5ft4...but...im several years younger..so i guess i am her little friend. I am 19..but have the mind and alcohol tolerance of a 22 year old as well. Sarah: I just want to state for the record that Leyla is not the lush that she pretends to be! She is quite tame and only climbs up on top of barstools to scream to the skies once a week! Leyla: come on! dont deny it, im a rockstar. I even fell asleep in the elevator and forgot to get off on my floor. hahahaha. OH...i would just like to say..right now we are listening to T-Rex. glam bam, thank you mam. Sarah: There is something really special in being able to share the music you love with a friend!! Leyla is the only friend that I have that is as passionate as I am about all the same bands. We dance like fools together and sing along word for word, it is wonderful!! One of the fundamental reasons for my theory that life is wonderful, is the fact that there exists such beautiful music, music that speaks to you not only lyrically but also musically. There is never such a bad happening in life that a good song can't make seem insignificant. LEyla: Sarah is a writer, cant you tell? She is smarter than all of you. hahahaha. Em. dont hurt me for that, though you are probably not reading this anymore. Hit the delete button...see if I care. Id like to take this moment to say: Way to go for britpop, 60's mod, northern soul, freakbeat, etc. Also. i would like to thank...eyeliner, lipgloss...moppy hair...em...british accents..and er' guiness for making life possible. Also, thankyou for inventing the "2 finger v's" way of saying fuck off.. so i can be vulgar and mean without any Americans knowing. Cheers. And this is where i will end my post. Good night, thank you. And if you have any info on any good clubs for us to visit in edinburgh or london, please write me back at modpopstar at yahoo.com. let me know! :) Also write me if you want to make any cash donations..to me... :) make the check payable to "Buy leyla clothes,records, and alochol fund" love and poison, leyla Sarah: I am blushing, I hate being called a writer. It makes me feel as though everything that I write has to be held up to some sort of standard...I'm still a student, just finished an undergrad program in English literature and Philosophy. I could go on for hours about James Joyce, Leyla had to go off on her musical ranting and raving. My! This all has to end somewhere. So goodbye to all! If you have read this far, you probably should get out more. Haha. "And if you don't give a damn, you're welcome to keep it!" Nice reading all of your posts, and even still nice to come out of the closet of sinister hiding. If you feel so inclined to respond to this drivel you can send me some drivel of your own to sarahduston at yahoo.com . Ciao!! p.s. Leyla: sarah came out of the closet hahahahahaha. sarah: stop with the damn sexual innuendoes. ********Stars Forever**************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Colleen at xxx.com Sat Jan 15 03:07:18 2000 From: Colleen at xxx.com (Colleen Laden) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:07:18 -0800 Subject: Sinister: it is a novel but its my turn Message-ID: hi everyone, happy new years and things. i am really tired i got drunk at work today and it wore off. im not supposed to get drunk at work anymore, they said the next time i did it i was fired, but the hotel across from where i work has a real cool bartender who gives me all the free drinks i want so i cant help it. ugh i had a lousy new year. that holiday isnt made for me. we left on the 30th at 5am , hopped on the N-Judah(fake ass subway) which took us to the bus which took us to the train which took us to Las Vegas . I dont like Las Vegas and i got real drunk and decided i didnt want to be there anymore so i went to the bus station at 5am to catch a bus home. i was still wearing my Las Vegas mini-skirt attire from the night before and all the retarded hotel door people kept bothering me so i changed in the elevator. i must have really been in the bus mood cause i threw on my B&S bus "logo" t-shirt.(people must have thought i was like a bus riding jerk, like obsessive) since i hadn't slept in 24 hours and i was drunk i passed out in the bus station. i got hungry on the bus and in my backpack i found one of those shake protien drinks and i tried to drink it BUT i fell asleep mid-swig and ended up pouring the piece of shit all over my lap...then when i got up and sat back down, i sat in it ( did i mention it was chocolate?) so now it looks like i passed out and crapped on myself. for the next 10 hours( it took 15 on the bus) i sat there trying to figure out which smell matched which person. I also realized i left the keys to my house in the hotel in Las Vegas...oh but it gets wetter(better+worse). So i get home, cant get into my fricken apartment so i go to the Liquor store to ask the guy if i can borrow a chair to hoist up the dam fire escape and break in the window, i call a guy friend to do the deed cause i am too tired, guy comes over climbs up the escape and WHAT DO YA KNOW he climbs up and goes into the WRONG apartment, eventually though i did get in, i got my keys back 2 days later and i managed to party with friends til 6am. oh! i met a guy though, an older guy, i think an antique or something and he is taking me to london and ireland in february! first class and everything! so (with my luck) if you see a plane crash on the news mid-february , it was most likely mine :) at least i still have an ass colleen www.firetalk.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Sat Jan 15 06:24:09 2000 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (Johan Nilsson) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 06:24:09 CET Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian ah um Message-ID: <20000115052410.47954.qmail@hotmail.com> ahoy-hoy* i have started a knitting circle with some friends... never before in my life have i felt so relaxed and stimulated. the first sunday after new years we had our first meeting and ever since we have been meeting at least twice a week, always on different locations to make it all more enjoyable. well not that knitting is not always enjoyable but to make it even... oh well you know what i mean. started out as five people, now we are a crowded bunch and i think this sunday we will by far out have the biggest meeting, expecting around fifteen people to come and knit. we meet every sunday for sure, the other dates are unknown but every sunday at eight it set... so we can watch the simpsons to start off with and easy up our minds. then we talk gossip and gossip. we also have a tradition of inviting friends over to play their favourite albums for us... i have to come to the conclusion that belle and sebastian make the best knitting music. it's really wonderful. drink hot coco/tea and some always show up with homemade cookies for our enjoyment. can life get better then that? i'm not sure, right now the answer is.... NO. Johan ps. i'm currently living at a temprorary adress in newport beach, california, if i owe you a tape/md or anything like that you have to write me and remind me, i'm a mess (i'm in a dress). ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Archel1978 at xxx.com Sat Jan 15 14:30:35 2000 From: Archel1978 at xxx.com (Archel1978 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:30:35 EST Subject: Sinister: too rushed to think of a good subject line Message-ID: jen wrote: >I'm reading a book about a lady called Mrs Pepperpot. It's very twee. And she >can shrink, which is cool. i LOVE mrs pepperpot. you can tell how much because of the rare use of upper case. mrs pepperpot and supergran must vie for the title of Best Old Lady In Children's Fiction. (by the way jen, steer clear of men called barry. just an instinct i have.) i moved some stuff into my new house today. funny how in the interval between first seeing it and going back, i'd conveniently forgotten the piles of junk everywhere, the ladders on the stairs, the filthy spare toilet and the futon in my room. what was i thinking? i HATE futons. i used to have one, it nearly killed me. still, i then went and bought some bed linen which cheered me up again. does anyone else think that when you put this: B as an emoticon (i believe that's the techy term) it's referring to a pair of breasts? what does it *actually* mean? the jeepster t-shirt conspiracy is clearly masterminded by a woman, one who either a) thinks automatically of her own sex when doing sizes or b) likes to see men's nipples through their shirts. pervy teachers, a case study: one production of 'oh! what a lovely war', 12 dancing girls in homemade slinky costumes, one camcorder as operated by mr , one finished video tape consisting of 5 minutes of blurry boys in soldiers' outfits and 55 minutes of said dancers' (average age 14) legs and bosoms. yeech. what a fab joint post from sarah and leyla. i'm going to have to start doing that, with my imaginary b&s loving friend, obviously... i seem to be out of time. love you all. archel xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From apytmw at xxx.uk Sat Jan 15 15:57:02 2000 From: apytmw at xxx.uk (Mark Whitsey) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 15:57:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Librarians have a first time too... Message-ID: Archel wrote... > what a fab joint post from sarah and leyla. i'm going to have to > > start doing that, with my imaginary b&s loving friend, obviously... and I agree!! Which gave my a very good reason for my *first ever post* EVER!!! Naturally, I'm really scared and it doesn't matter haw many time you read about it, doing it for yourself, for the first time ever, is a scary bussiness. So, how y'all doing? In case you care, my name really isn't apytmw. My parents just aren't that abstract. No, I'm Mark, which is possibly less interesting but easier to remember. The apytmw is courtesy of Nottingham University who, being the scumbags they are, wouldn't let me have an address as good as 'lipsthattasteoftears at yahoo' like my friend Johns. He's always ahead of me - plus his parents can affors internet access; I have to wait for one in the computer labs (I'm waiting for this one to crash any minute....) Wasn't Christmas lonely?? Well, it was for me. I spent most of the term looking forward to going home, but when I got there I realised that I was cut off from my friend John, sinister posts, the Jeepster website and Selectadisc, the record store round here which is really, reallly good. Since I couldn't get the sinister posts, I didn't even know that B&S were on the telly, so I missed it through ignorance. I couldn't afford to go to London for the Tigermilking either. I didn't realise that it was upstairs at the Garage - that is one of my favorite places in the world outside my bedroom and the library at university (where I'm sitting now, merrily typing and humming to myself). So, the only B&S contnet I can muster is purely selfish and negative - I missed everything. Oh, but I did see a fox last night. I was walkiung around in the dark at about a quarter to one when, there he was!!! I was scared at first, because I haddn't been expecting anyone to run out in front of me - but imagine my delight when I realised who he was... a real fox!!!! I'm a country lad, so I used to see foxes, rabbits and owls all the time, but since moving to the city, wildlife (not including pigeons) has been a rarity. I wish I could do a letter as good as Sarah and Layla. I'm jealous of Sarah because she's a writer and got to study Sartre at uni. I'm a philosophy student, confined to stodgy stuff from the past. Oh dear. Why don't I have a B&S freind???? I have John, but he's not here and he's always too far ahead of me. I met him when I moved to university... he was wearing a big duffel coat and the bus teeshirt. Now I've got a duffel coat too. I feel quite derivative, but he doesn't mind. I got laughed off of a chat room the other night. it was a Manics one... that will teach me... I shall stick to where I'm wanted in the futere, with Honey to protect me from smelly goths and killer girlies in boas.... hang on.... don't protect me from killer girlies in boas, Honey, but keep the goths away. I got called 'luv' on the bus yesterday. Actually, I get called luv every time I go on the bus... maybe our busdriver has a catchphrase; "75p please, luv". Or maybe it's my appearance.... I'm very small. Hey, guess what.... I also used to get picked last in PE (until I got very good at hiding in the library on a Wednesday afternoon!!!!). I used to be a librarian at school - I still ahve the badge. itsays, 'librarian' on it. It gives me an enormous sense of pride whan I wear it out and about.... My how I go on and on.... Well, I had better go now and cook some tea. I wishe I lived in America so I could go to those knitting clubs, but I don't, so I'll just have to have tea alone. Love, hugs and kisses, Mark xxxxxxxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Zurich869 at xxx.com Sat Jan 15 19:09:03 2000 From: Zurich869 at xxx.com (Zurich869 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:09:03 EST Subject: Sinister: your face wasn't wet because of the rain, you were crying Message-ID: <5c.463039.25b21fcf@aol.com> In a message dated 1/14/00 9:41:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-sinister-digest at missprint.org writes: > I'm reading a > Norewgian novel about two little 11 year olds who have > a pyschic connewction and one day they take all their > clothes off and look at each other naked and the next > day, one little girl is so ashamed she skips school > and goes to this frozen waterfall and explores it, > butr she gets lost inside cos its full of so many > rooms, and she freezes to death and dies and her pal > is really upset. wow. what is the name of this book? lovest-- ryan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sat Jan 15 19:37:28 2000 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:37:28 PST Subject: Sinister: If you refuse to let them go, I will plague your whole country with frogs. Message-ID: <20000115193728.88474.qmail@hotmail.com> My petties, Mark wrote: --yet another example of B&S's charming way of being >wude and then metaphorically running away. I'm not quite sure why I said >that, but it's a motif I've noticed a few times - The Boy with the Arab >Strap - ooh, naughty! - the little boy on the badge and his two-fingered >salute - playing South Park music before coming on stage at the Supper Club >- - that sort of thing. Aren't they cheeky scamps? Having said all that, it >just makes me love them more. Mmmm I agree too.Struan mixes tenderness with cheekiness oh so well.Well,at least he makes me think that,but I tend to get wrapped up in fantastical stories that make you clutch that book tenderly to your bosom and sigh.It's more fun being a tease,for sure. I'm reading a short story (Where The Apple Ripens - Jessie Kesson) which takes place in the farmlands of Scotland and it is like RIGHT out of a Belle And Sebastian song.Well,right out of what *I* think a Belle And Sebastian song should consist of (even the girls name is Isabel): ...'Lil Eadie was quite right!' Else panted,as they ran towards the school. 'Our servant's just like that.Always skirling with the horsemen up in the dark in the loft.And you know fine what they're up to!' Isabel DID 'know fine'.But,another knowing,and one outwith her experience,seized sudden hold,carrying her body up into some dark hay-loft,and placing it under,not one horseman,but all the horseman that ever was.She could have deserted Else there and then, and gone flying up to Corbie's Wood,to ease the agony that her mind's unexpected vision had thrust upon her unsuspecting body. 'They must be a TERRIBLE lot,then,' she agreed with Else.Glad that the trembling hand't reached her voice.'They must all be disgusting,just!' (and theres another part,where the mysterious farmer pays a visit,in the story his name is Alex...oh but I know it to be Struan..) Her blood stirred in recognition.The thousand anonymous horsemen Isabel had longed to lie under in the dark hay-lofts began to merge into,and take on the identity of the guest by the fire from the gleam of his leggings to the hairs curling red on his hands.' Seeing as were on the PE subject...I do miss it.I could have taken it this year but chose to be scholarly and used up all my options on chemistry and biology.(Yay.)Soon,soon I will be tennis girl champion of the world though.The whole picking people for teams things didn't bother me,it was more when we would play against boy-things.Thats where we get competitive!I never played soccer/football intensively and I want to learn and get REALLY good because I have this dream of going to england and playing football against a bunch of english boythings (with their little shorts and socks) and beating them so bad! ha ha! but then after the game,we would be alll smudged with dirt and mud and they would feed me grapes and they would be OK with the fact that they got beaten by a girl. mmmmm...I know I should love the snow but I'm longing a bit for sunshine and warmth..I blame it on all those Thailand shots from Leonardo DiCaprios upcoming movie 'The Beach' I wonder if Leo stopped over for tea with Oon because I am sure it is her backyard where all those exquisite scenes were filmed. xxx genevieve p.s that Magnolia movie sure is strange isn't it? I think I need to see it again to understand everything... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Sat Jan 15 19:45:57 2000 From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:45:57 -0500 Subject: Sinister: the uncanny x-femme Message-ID: <200001151943.OAA03560@s1.nassau.cv.net> that subject made no sense, because i'm not a girl. otherwise it would be some rockstar cool-cute feminist slogan, but i ain't, so it was just an effort to say something witty in the little rectangle at the top of the screen. to the girl who sent her shoulder to sinister: i'm in love. will you send me a letter so that i can have a crush? if you don't i could just mope about here, but that got tiresome after the second time. i would send letters to the dears who sent in their breasts and bums, but loud rowdy girls scare me. i think i much prefer ones who present their shoulders. my harmonica broke. the seventh hole is flatted down almost an entire half-step on the draw, but not quite, so it makes a silly tremelo effect when i try to play. that's ok, though, because i'm playing the guitar too, and i can sing during that and play b+s songs. i could play b+s songs on the harmonica, but the bit on me and the major is just too hard. a boy at my school comitted suicide on sunday. everyone's still upset, it's a mess. especially carolyn, who never cries. and melissa, who hurt herself. i saw girl, interrupted last night and could barely stand it... it just gouged a little too close to the rib, i think. but go see it anyway, it's a brilliant movie. i think i will go do the dishes now, i don't want to use up all my words before i make a journal entry. - adam (p.s. i am terribly sorry for using certain phrases native to the home islands of the belles... i just can't help it when i'm writing here. please don't be mad and think things like "that wanker adam, i'll box his ears!" i'm not sure what boxing the ears means but i think it must be very unpleasant because they always mention it in horror it in british children's books, like e. nesbit's "five children and it." but now this post scriptum is far too long, almost enough to be another letter! so i will go. goodnight.) aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Sat Jan 15 21:19:29 2000 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 16:19:29 EST Subject: Sinister: Jeepster tee shirts and various things. Message-ID: <89.9d2590.25b23e61@aol.com> Hi all! various peeps mentioned Jeepster tee shirts are definately weird. My gentle waves one is medium and it's too big, but my bus one is also medium and it's just right. The collar's weird though. I'm strangely all out of proportion to myself though, so don't take me as a tee shirt guide line. I've been having a belle and sebastian video evening, much to the dismay of my gran, who's looking after me. She wanted me to watched Blind Date with her. Also could Ian get in touch with me about that because I've lost his e mail addy and I want to thank him for taping the vids. Oh fudge! My gran's yelling for me, so I'm going to have to cut this short and go. Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk Sat Jan 15 20:09:46 2000 From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (sweetie) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 20:09:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister: stars and fields and stuff Message-ID: <012401bf5fa0$d2bd7160$b232883e@anne666theasylum> sinister i met a lovely lad and i liked him muchly and then he sent me msgs on my phone last night, and they made my cry he claimed in his sorry msg this morn he was drunk and his mate dared him but im not sure if he is quite so lovely anymore :*( i have just read leyla and sarahs post the whole way thro and they are right, i do need to get out more for school sports, well i dont do p.e. anymore coz i dont like sport but i didnt get picked last last, i usually got picked 2nd last i didnt get picked early coz they knew i was crap and i dont think many people liked me very much but i always hoped i wouldnt get picked till last and thered be odd numbers so i wouldnt have to play more people like me now and i like people more now but the popular kids dont like me and they all call me freak and make jokes about magnets coz i have piercings and they all think im gay or bi but i might be bi and i dont care what they think anyway when im on my comp i am facing the window and i have the curtains open bcoz the sun is setting watching the colours change sweetie x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Sun Jan 16 04:29:57 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 23:29:57 EST Subject: Subject: Re: Sinister: too rushed to think of a good subject line Message-ID: << does anyone else think that when you put this: B as an emoticon (i believe that's the techy term) it's referring to a pair of breasts? what does it *actually* mean? >> I've always been told that they were buck teeth :B as in a dork type style. I don't know of an emoticon that is for breasts. althought once a friend showed me this: ( o Y o ) which I found thoroughly funny :x. iris it's true i do imbue my blue unto myself i make it bitter. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Sun Jan 16 04:46:26 2000 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 23:46:26 -0500 Subject: Sinister: here i come to save the day Message-ID: well, not really. but i couldn't think of anything else to put in the subject line. and for some reason i was thinking of that andy kaufman bit where he lip synchs to the mighty mouse theme song. so i've checked out the new list crush operation, and it's quite intimidating, but a lot more thorough than the old one. no more votes for random characters, i guess. and it's nice to see that tigerXdare is still up there on the charts. you go, girl. i've moved into my new room today, the largest in the house. it's quite swanky, but now i'm not so sure what to do with myself, being all set up and stuff, while the rest of the people i live with are still trying to move or helping the others move. it's a mess (but oddly enough, none of us are in dresses). a lot of you have joined us since my last post, so you probably have no clue who i am. look me up in the archives, then. if you look in september and october you're guaranteed lots and lots of contributions provided by me. not necessarily good or worthy, but contributions nonetheless. i had another looksee at the bodyparts page, and it's growing quite nicely. nice bum, btw, to the chap who's recently added his. well, i'm assuming it's a boy anyway. it very well could be a girl. if i'd seen the other side then i would know for sure, wouldn't i? somebody posted about how they like that girl's shoulder and want her to email him. it was a loverly shoulder, although i'd be more inclined to call it a collarbone. but maybe that's just me. still, i was a little sad that girls like me and bum-girl, who show off our naughty bits on the bodyparts page (so i guess that means i've blown my cover for which bodypart i posess. oops) don't get crush emails because we're loud and stuff. i don't know what that means. but i don't think that applies to me all that much. oh well, whatever. and for all intents and purposes, that bum shot is pretty coy, so she's probably quite a shy girl. but that's just my take on it. i could be way off. for the record, i only ever got picked for sports when we played kickball in elementary school. i was quite good at it in 3rd grade. at my high school we didn't have PE, we played on teams, instead. i played field hockey and ice hockey. i was first-string for both, and often spent the entire time playing, not taking a break. does that count as being picked first? it does to me. too bad i haven't played either sport in well over 3 years. damn. well, enough of that. back to knitting (what is it about winter that makes me want to knit? i don't know, but it does. so there). -kerry "my face is leaving in 15 minutes and you'd better be on it" -title of a too much light makes the baby go blind play +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com Sun Jan 16 10:23:15 2000 From: Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com (Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 05:23:15 EST Subject: Sinister: english literature tutor Message-ID: <45.4f9599.25b2f613@aol.com> if any of you remember me, i'm back from the hospital. i was there for 21 days and it was a very interesting experience. i was there for pain, but we shared the ward with psych patients. i lent a few of them tigermilk to listen to and they all liked it, said it was very calming. i got the flu the day after i got home and have had it ever since, a month and a half now. i can't seem to get better. i just found out that i have to go back to a new hospital next month for 2-4 weeks so i'm not very happy, but i'm trying to drown my sorrows in beer. it hasn't been working for the last month, but i'm still working on it. richard sent me a belle and sebastian video, but i don't know how to convert it to american video. can anyone help? some cottontoe stole my lovely new lavender cashmere sweater out of the dressing room at old navy today, but they found it a few hours later after i'd had a good cry. i got cute new pink pajama pants. "And for all the randy male sinisterians out there wanting to get into girls pants, I reccomend it as a useful guide. SEND FLOWERS!" i reccomend this for randy female sinisterians as well. i'd be really happy if some cute girl sent me flowers. i prefer gerber daisies, just so you know. "And where do schools find their PE teachers from? why must PE teachers have flopping shaggy perms, and shellsuits, and look like they audtioned for Gregory's girl?? " it's time for my pe teacher story. i had my pe locker right in front of the pe teacher's office window(because that's where the cute cheerleaders had theirs) and when we wore sweats we had to wear our pe shorts underneath and one day the pe teacher who had her hair cut so that she looked like a penis was checking for my shorts and said to me, 'oh you're not wearing the plaid underwear today'. i didn't need that. my lovely australian friend scot has moved to london and he's lonely and needs some friends. i know some of you live in london and i think it would be really lovely if you'd be his friend. his e-mail is socks_off at hotmail.com. tell him i sent you. i'm getting a new tattoo tomorrow of a half of a broken heart on the inside of my ankle. i figure that's a better way of getting a memory of a still loved ex-girlfriend than tattooing her name on myself. a little less obvious. i hope this has been an ok re-introduction to the list. right now i'm trying to decide who to vote for for a list crush. should i stick with the dependable lesley jo or move on to idle or the leyla and sarah combo? hmm. i'm off to party with prince vladimir, the tea that is. take care. *alyssa marie* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Sun Jan 16 15:05:57 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 07:05:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: HAPPY SUNDAY!! Message-ID: <20000116150557.4915.qmail@web601.mail.yahoo.com> well, HaPPY sUNday to one and all. you realise I have EXAMS at the end of this week? Course you didn't, you haven't seen my exam timetable, you don't know which uni I go to and you don't know what I'm studying...unless you've seen my website....(plug plug) Anyway, I think its Norwegian, but I'm not sure. It might be Swedish. Or Danish. Sod it, all foreign languages are the same, I'll do it in German. I'm being "read" as I write by the boyfiend, who is currently in his dressing gown and correcting every bluddy word I write over my shoulder and calling me a silly cow. God he is so witty. And calling me machine gun fingers. woohoo. Anyway, here we are in bonny East Anglia, (with a capital E my boyfiend corrects me), having a bluddy grammar lesson while I try to type this thing to you all. Ah, hes gone. Good. I can make lots of spulling mistakes and grammer mistakes and its nun vof his businsess and lets see what he does about that ha ha hah ahh aha ha. Hmm. Excuse me before I went off on one. So, gym at school. It was shite. It was crap. I couldn't do it and even now I'd rather wait half an hour than run for a bus. Fit people die. Anyone hear about that fit rugger bugger who died from flu in Wales? proves my point. And yet I don't do sport. And I live. Gym should be a choice. I didn't mind uni hoc, cos that was dagerous, the one time when I could accidentally wallop the school bully in the nose and go "oops!" as if I didn't mean it. I was bullied at school by this girl who decided one day in the back of Chemistry to try and poke my eye out with a biro. Well, she'll be sorry when I take over the world. I've managed to quit smoking..... I quit when I got the flu thing in my throat. I've decided to save all the money I would otherwise spend on fags and put it towards saving up for a ticket for "all tomorrows parties" instead. I should have enough soon. And in the meantime, this nice big student loan in my account will help as well. Oh oh oh oh! did I tell you? I found THE coolest hairdressers salon in Scotland!!! I went to Paterson S.A on Lothian Road a few weeks ago for a trim as I always do, cos they got this big white boxer who is deaf and the staff are really cool and they have a coffee menu and everything. And they were palying belle and sebastian music in the background. It was tough having to sit still and try to not sing along to Belle and sebastian music while the hairdresser clipped me with his snippers. And I came away with a damn fine haircut and feeling in a very good mood. Anyway, I better go and do stuff. Wish me luck in trying to find inspiration for doing these exams! hugs and Hellos to everyone whose been e mailing me!!!!! love, IdleB. kiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskis ===== visit the idle site:www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/5117 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From FrugalSyntax33 at xxx.com Sun Jan 16 18:03:28 2000 From: FrugalSyntax33 at xxx.com (FrugalSyntax33 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 13:03:28 EST Subject: Sinister: the three calamites Message-ID: <5b.d75656.25b361f0@aol.com> hello everyone. i've been a patient little child for the past few weeks, and now am thrilled with my power to post...woohoo! my name's amy and i am a 17 year-old female in the suburbs of long island, ny. 45 minutes to penn station(34th street, manhattan)by train. i also happen to live in the "ghetto" of long island. i guess it makes it even more so unbearable. you can normally find me somewhere with my knotted up headphones on. it gets me through my normally dull life. i tend to observe the idiocy in my school's cafeteria through tinted glasses-radiohead, blur, kula shaker, pulp, b&s, aphex twin, dylan, donovan, etc,. depends on my mood and how rowdy my fellow students are. i have a new-found love for literature now. which doesn't necessarily mean i love the best authors in the world. my favorite authors include: huxley, joseph sheridan le fanu, phil rickman, richard matheson, vonnegut, james joyce and e. e. cummings. i wish i had the time to read more, but the menial tasks of school require my attention. i used to be an art-school girly. in my mind anyway. i'm a documentary/landscape photographer, and i admit my photographs are what really helped get me into college. my writing isn't close to spectacular. i attended the pre-college program in photography in the puck building at pratt two summers ago, and the pre-college program in photography at the school of visual arts(sva)last summer. if any of you were at either program, don't hesitate to e-mail me. :) the biggest chunk of my life has been taking up by singing lately. i am currently in 2 of my school's choir, singing alto in the mixed and soprano in the select choir. i'm really an alto at heart though. i was an alto in ny's all-state chorus and alto in the county's chorus. the all-state choir led me to believe that it is possible for anyone with a decent body and a decent voice to get in. it was a disapointment. i sing opera, classical, spiritual(for choir), and broadway. i also hope to start a band one day which can accomodate my voice. it should be fun. i'm attending bennington(bennington, vt) next year. i hope to combine vocal music, photography and creative writing and create some sort of program. i also wish i was on the stage 24 hours a day, but hopefully that time will come in college. now all you lovely people know my hobbies and goals. hopefully this list could act as a therapist. just kidding :). i've just found out that beck has sold-out valentine's day in ny...i'm very upset. i didn't know tickets went on sale yesterday. i am going to stop this dreadfully long post now and cry into my seafood bisque. thank you darlings for reading, and i would appreciate any fellow new yorkers or humans in general to respond back. amy. http://www.angelfire.com/ny/britpopoasis/index.html visit the writing page and give me some feedback. thank you. :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Sun Jan 16 23:05:38 2000 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:05:38 PST Subject: Sinister: Men are like linoleum floors, lay them right & you can walk on them for 30 years Message-ID: <20000116230538.49605.qmail@hotmail.com> I want to begin by saying that I've noticed a lot of new people on the list lately and the disappearance of some old ones that I was quite fond of (mainly Jygsaw Dave.. another southern lad is gone *sigh*). Anyway, I would just like to welcome all of the newbies with an open heart (and to those single guys with open arms, hehe). I said that I wouldn't dream of Belle and Sebastian until they started dreaming of me. Well, Stuart Murdoch better be waking up in the middle of the night in cold sweats with the taste of Laura Llew still on his tongue. Yes, I know the *I had a dream* posts are of yesteryear and passe now. But, I can't help it if I'm always behind the times. It wasn't even that spectacular of a dream (Though, I'm quite surprised it lasted as long as it did and made sense. Usually in my dreams something odd happens- like one of the people turning into a singing & dancing muffin with pink frosting -and then the scenario changes.) I was a reporter trying to get an interview with the band. I had gone through all of this trouble to meet then and everything had fallen through (I was even at an amusement park once and couldn't find them). So, finally we get something set up and I meet them. We're in one of those auditorium classrooms (where each row of chairs is higher than the one's in front of them). And there was a Spanish film beginning at the same time. Well, I started talking to the members of th band but I couldn't really understand what they were saying because I couldn't hear them. So, I was just nodding a lot. Now, I've admitted in the past that I really don't know that much about Belle and Sebastian as individuals nor do I really care (besides the fact that Stu *will* one day be my Cabana Boy). But I think that my dream was definitely off in this one particular point of information. Because to my knowledge, one of the members of the group isn't a large middle aged Hispanic lady. But in my dreams she was a member. Anyway, this lady says something and I thought she was saying something to the effect of, "Let's wait until the movie's over," because one of the words she used was a Spanish word. So, I nod and the next thing I know they're all leaving! Then I realized that she said llegar and not the name of the Spanish film (Does llegar mean to leave? Seven years of espanol and all I'm familiar with is quesadillas. In my dream, the word she used was a form of llegar). I rushed out after them trying to get them to stay but to no avail. And all my beloved Stuart Murdoch would do was kind of shake his head like he was sorry and that was it. Boy, I was steamed. I couldn't get back to bed the rest of that night because I was so mad. I refused to listen to any of their songs that day too. All I'm saying is if the band is going to make cameo appearances in my dreams, they should at least be polite about it. Did anyone else fall in love with Will Porter from his last post or was it just me? If he ever has a fan club, I get dibs on being President. Hmm, I'm having difficulty typing with this ice pack on top of my hand. I was pouring water (for tea) and I accidentally poured it on my hand. It's actually quite painful but I shall stop whining. Hmm, maybe I'll try to be postive about it. Look at the silver lining of this dark omnious acid filled harbinger of doom that lurks over me.. I should just be grateful that I'm not... that I'm not.. um.. an elf. Ok, so that's the best I could think of. But really elves don't have it easy. I mean, have you ever thought about the life of those creatures? A little elfling enters the world full of hopes and dreams. But really what does he have to look forward to? His entire life options are to 1- work in a tree making cookies 2- work for a corpulent man who only actually works himself once a year or 3- be a lawn ornament. Plus, you think you look bad in hats - try fitting them over pointy ears. The poor dears. As you can tell by the pouring of hot water all over my hand, I'm one of those graceful girls who has great hand & eye coordination. This leads directly into the PE topic. Do they still have kids choose their own teams in grade school? If so, someone please pray tell me why. I shall never understand the motives of such a practice. Someone always ends up last and with more material to use in a therapy session later in their life. Of course, I was always near the end. Not because of lack of ability (Let's face it, there weren't exactly any kickball prodigies in my school. I don't know what kind of 7 year olds y'all were) but because of lack of friends. I wasn't the most amiable of little girls. I remember some boy tried to kiss me on the playground once and I ended up flipping him. Don't ask me how it happened since I wasn't a large kid. I just remember him messing with me and then seeing him fly through the air. He landed on the ground with a nice thud. Straight from a b&s song, yes? The other unfortunate boy who tried to show his affection then got punched. Sucker. So, let me get this right about the new list crush site. If two people vote for each other than Honey sends them both an e-mail where he chants " ... sitting in a tree k-i-s-s-i-n-g. First comes a crush, then comes ..." There's a site on the web that does basically the same thing but it's called Pimping Cupid (through the same people who do the purity test at www.thespark.com). So, may I start calling Honey - Pimping Cupid? Sounds like a great WuName, eh? I wonder if he'll start going around in diapers wielding an arrow. We thought Miss Honey was a name.. but no. It's just a request to the other members of the cupid gang he runs around with. Of course, if he's now armed and dangerous, perhaps I should be more careful of what I say. *ducking* Laura 'Meeting all of your Laura Llew needs since 1977' (is that better Andy?) **Laura Llew's Most Cherished Listee of the Week** This goes to that lovely lad who helped this daft lil' lass find her way around the sinister chatroom. He was most patient with me even though I'm not very bright and am depriving a village somewhere of an idiot. Much thanks to this soul from England who is kind to me even though I am very American. This bright boy is... none other than ..........................Chris_t_opher........................... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From porterww at xxx.edu Mon Jan 17 00:13:41 2000 From: porterww at xxx.edu (Will Porter) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 18:13:41 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Men are like linoleum floors, lay them right & you can walk on them for 30 years In-Reply-To: <20000116230538.49605.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Laura Llew wrote: > Did anyone else fall in love with Will Porter from his last post or was it > just me? If he ever has a fan club, I get dibs on being President. Funny you should ask. In short, the answer is NO. Although I did get an offer to be hog-tied and beaten with a belt-buckle, and someone speculated that I "wouldn't be so funny with the pointy end of a cowboy boot" in my ass. Ok, I made that last one up (and the lies keep coming. Is it still lying if you say that you're lying as soon as you've finished with the actual lying?) will +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Mon Jan 17 00:15:09 2000 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:15:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Monica Queen returns Message-ID: <6rQnBAAN8lg4EwNl@subcult.demon.co.uk> Dear all, Hopefully of some interest to you in the Belle & Sebastian fraternity is the news that everyone's favourite B&S-affiliated dimunitve country rock chanteuse, Monica Queen, has recorded some new material. '77' received its first airing last Sunday on the Radio Scotland show, Beat Patrol, and is exclusively available along with another new song, 'Tear Behind My Smile' on MP3 from http://www.wellcut.com Both songs see her in mellow, reflective mood but those who enjoyed her more powerful-tonsilled outings should just watch this space. There's a whole 'pop' album to come and some distinctly rocking unreleased Thrum material might also be getting a release on Well Cut Recordings. Other artists on the site include Chris T-T, White Town and Leonard (much admired by John Peel, Bob Geldof and, erm, Johnathan King). All have tracks avaialable to download for the princely sum of 99 new pence (even cheaper in the US, as you don't have to pay the VAT). Any artists or labels interested in selling downloads should get in touch with us at a&r at wellcut.com Sorry if this post seems a tad too much like advertising. Our defence is that the subject line is 'Monica Queen returns'. Hooray, hooray. love ya' Martin, a&r at wellcut.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vegasbaby at xxx.com Mon Jan 17 00:23:54 2000 From: vegasbaby at xxx.com (Courtney Knopf) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:23:54 PST Subject: Sinister: it's a grey day Message-ID: <20000117002354.69358.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello darlings, I have been lurker supreme for a while. i think i retreated into my cave sometime in late 98. but anyway, i do believe it's time for me to come out of hibernation. The version of The Scarlett Letter with Demi Moore is on my television. I think i may vomit. Or perhaps I should call Tony Soprano and have him whack her. The weather here today is very gloomy. Yesterday and the day before it was in the high 70's and humid, which leads me to believe an earthquake is on the way. well that and all of the howling dogs I heard the other night whilst driving through the hollywood hills. speaking of PE, once i got out of elementary school i managed to avoid it almost entirely. Though it was never ever my strong point. The filthy splotches on my permanent record can be attributed to my distaste for running the mile. my PE teacher was a very spunky woman who i think was probably a lesbian (isn't that how it always goes?). she had big fake nails, very short spiky hair and wore body glitter and body jewels. once she got her arm stuck in a vending machine and fractured it. she ended up in a cast for a month. alas, that did not put an end to the PE joy. In high school i ended up having to take remedial PE the last semester of my senior year. yes, i said remedial PE. that's where they put all the senior girls who loathed PE with every fiber of their being like I did. somehow i had gotten out of taking PE between grades 6-11 by taking dance classes at a magnate program. but once i decided i hated that, i ended up stuck in Lazy Girl PE. my teacher was yet another spunky butch woman. who got fired. teehee. are there any Los Angeles sinisterines who are going to see Air at the American Legion Hall next saturday? ~Courtney http://kscr.usc.edu http://www.soundbreak.com http://www.theshrubbery.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Mon Jan 17 00:58:27 2000 From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:58:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Canada, it is the biggest bitch of them all Message-ID: <20000117005827.14333.qmail@web113.yahoomail.com> oh list, dear list, dear sinister you who are both one and over a thousand, But, Laura, Will may be a big huge gorgeous man with a swimmers build and a love of dusty books, but he said very naughty things about Canada. Well, okay, he said the cardinal naughty thing about Canada: that we are more like the U.S. than we care to admit. And then he said "there, I said it." Did Will have a bad Canadian experience? Don't judge us all on one bad thing, Will! We really aren't all pornographers with flapping heads and beady little eyes. I mean, *I* am, but leave the rest of 'em outta it. ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Mon Jan 17 01:28:39 2000 From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:28:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: eek, laptop mousepad evil! Message-ID: <20000117012839.17564.qmail@web113.yahoomail.com> my computer wanted to send that last message very badly I think and seemed to get ahead of me. But you know me, could I possibly send a post of less than 6K? No, of course not. Anyway, so Canadians... i make no real generalizations b/c we're all quite different in this vast land. It's just the whole identity crisis thing up here gets our thermal undies in a knot. It's been said that what is Canadian is not knowing quite what it means to be Canadian. yeah, so *that's* fun stuff... Anyway, Will, Oregon is very nice and probably one of the few places in the US where Americans can be easily compared to Canadians. Especially if you're talking about Eugene, Or. And also, USA is a-okay. Please send keep making movies like the Matrix and you will stay in my good little cdn books. geez, i'm being a freak today. But know that I used to come in first during PE runs around the school back in those bloody highschool days. And I also used to be on the basketball team. And track and field (only briefly a star in the 200m though). But then when I was 16, the arts got me and I became... a part of the drama group... These are phases we go through, I suppose... School groups, eee. I never really belonged though. I... just... never... really... ha ha, it's okay, i'm fine. it's cool, no, there's something in my eye, really, it's okay. I saw the Kids in the Hall live on Friday night! It's their reunion tour and quite good and funny. Weird and nostalgic, yes, and not quite the same as the old days back in 93 (i'm sooo old school, y'all), but still really very funny. Bruce even did Gavin, which pleased me to stitches. And I think that's all. I rented American History X. Maybe that's why I'm writing this. It's very good. I'm kind of breathing and relaxing through email maybe. if that makes any sense at all. Okay then... I'll leave you to your Sunday evenings (or Monday mornings, or...) I have nothing to say about the band that brings us here today. I defend them constantly though and you know how I dislike arguing... that's gotta count for something(?) Love Robyn ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SlowRobot at xxx.com Mon Jan 17 02:39:39 2000 From: SlowRobot at xxx.com (blair hicks) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 18:39:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: oh canada Message-ID: <4762497.948076779464.JavaMail.imail@bubbles.excite.com> my premiere post to the list will begin with this sentence, which, sadly, is not nearly as captivating as i would prefer it to be. my name is blair, and i spent two weeks in canada two summers ago. the natives were pleasant folk, and are not, in my opinion, deserving of harsh generalizations. as a texan, i am well aware of the destructive capabilities of such generalizations, and believe me, both myself and the horse i ride to class each day are deeply hurt by narrow-sighted bigotry. i spent the winter holidays in switzerland, experiencing my first taste of life across the pond. the swiss were almost as pleasant as canadians, and shared with the citizens of the "great white north" a bizarre inability to serve iced tea. belle & sebastian have never found their way into my dreams, though i once dreamed that i was swimming in a pool of tang, and that has to be worth something. if any of you lovely sinister folks are ever in austin, texas, please drop me a line. free meals seem to abound in my company, so take advantage. i hope this post finds you all well. lovely talking to you - really. fondly, blair _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freeworld.excite.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From no_surprises_21 at xxx.com Mon Jan 17 05:10:28 2000 From: no_surprises_21 at xxx.com (Chris Heil) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 21:10:28 PST Subject: Sinister: these jeepster shirts Message-ID: <20000117051028.35935.qmail@hotmail.com> Yes....the jeepster shirt phenomenon puzzles me. I was the lucky recipient of two lovely B&S shirts this past christmas, the bus one and the weird one with the dots that says Belle and Sebastian, I'm not sure what the name for it was on the site. Something clever I'm sure. The first thing I did when I got them, of course, was run to the mirror and try them on. They were both in size large which is a usually a little big for me, but with a little help from the dryer everything always seems to work out. The dotty one fit perfectly and I was quite delighted, but as I slipped the bus one over my body there was a noticable squeeze and I could feel the air leaving my lungs. Was this a girly shirt? I think not...but this shirt was so tight it almost made me look as if I had breasts...disturbing. I tried to strecth the bus shirt numerous times but it seems to be made of some strange polyester/cotton/rubber material and always returns to its original size. Since christmas I've been sleeping in it every night tryin to naturally conform it to my body but to no avail. HoHum what to do. I now sometimes where it out of the house, but since it looks strange (to say the least) on me, only under my coat, fully open to reveal the bus and hope a fellow sinisteran will cross my path. Well that was my story. Painful to hear, I know, but I think nessecary. goodbye. Do you ICQ? 17134593 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grey7 at xxx.net Mon Jan 17 06:08:52 2000 From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 01:08:52 -0500 Subject: Sinister: He was an anarchist, he tried his best but it wasn't good enough Message-ID: <005b01bf60b1$562e0e40$41381fce@default> Hello Sinister Siblings, it seems that the nasty flu and colds that have swept up so many have touched even the Sinister People. So to all those sniffling and snuffling people be they twee or sinister I hope you're all feeling your best soon enough. Our Lil' Laura Llew said: " We shall have more classy boy photos on the body part page. Such as Jygsaw Dave's knees, Jim Bob Gilmer's ears, " Classy? I don't know about Dave's knees but I'm afraid my my ears aren't very classy. I'm not sure I have a *classy* body part, though you can see my ears as well as the rest of me on the photo page. Ohhh...I'm on the Sinister site!! Happy Day!!! *dances a little jig around his computer chair* Yes, I am easily amused. I must say the body parts page is not growing as fast as I thought it would. Come on now dear Sinisters, let's build it up a bit shall we? Oh, I must also say that the second eye pic is rather nice shot. The bit of light across the forehead and eye is just aces, see I said I was easy to amuse. Besides, photography is something I've really started to like as of late. Especially B&W artsy photos, I'm not sure what this sudden fascination is. I picked up 3...6...9 Seconds of Light and I must say I love Century of Fakers. I had not heard it before and I was blown away. Another new fav tune I've just *discovered* is Paper Boat from the Black Session. There's not much better than hearing a new song, especially when it's by a favorite band, for the first time and loving it. I'm jealous Robyn saw the Kids in the Hall, with luck I'll be seeing them when they come through Detroit though. Robyn also mentioned American History X which was dead on brilliant, Ed Norton was amazing. I wish they'd come out with a T-shirt of Tigermilking, since that be something I'd buy in a heartbeat. I did order a large Isobel and Fox T-shirt, thanks to everyone for the warning on the sizes as I hate tight shirts so with luck a large should fit me perfect Instead of an evil PE teacher my school had an evil (okay, we had several evil teachers) music teacher who was *far* too friendly and touchy with the girls of band. I rejoiced though when I heard that my old high school had fired my old computer teacher who had a habit of hanging over the senior girls and nearly panting over them. It seems some girl finally got fed up with his comments and such and complained loudly to both the school board and the local papers. So sometimes they get what's coming to them. Ah, well. I should be working on some writing or messing with my guitar (though I'll never be any good with it at the rate I'm going), speaking of writing our Dear Honey just posted the first story I ever sent in for publication to the Sinister Library, anyone wanting to check it out comments would be appreciated. Looking back on it now I see parts I wish I hadn't done the way I had and parts that I can see could have been better but I like it anyways. Plus, the rejection letter I got fueled my desire to write since it was a rather nice note stating that the editor liked it, but thought it lacked enough *impact*. I joined the ranks of the graduated last month after finishing the undergrad english program at MSU, except they want one more spanish class out of me so I must drive a half hour every week day to take one spanish class. Grrr...I just want to be done with it so I can move on to either grad school, or my other choice of going back and getting a vetrinary techs degree. Well, enough shameless plugging. It's getting late and I've rambled too long. I hope all my fellow Sinister Siblings are well and happy tonight. Cheers to you all. Be Sinister! Jim "A young boy sticks a feather in his mouth..."- Jeff Noon, "Vurt" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From j_kerswell at xxx.com Mon Jan 17 06:58:56 2000 From: j_kerswell at xxx.com (Magpie Jay) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 06:58:56 GMT Subject: Sinister: chasing the light of rainbows Message-ID: <20000117065856.43523.qmail@hotmail.com> I have seen three new pitchers in camp strange in a week. Two of which have BuS content, the other flaps in the breeze like an unpegged tent. 3: On my way to work on Wednesday morning, with my face half hanging out of an 'annoyingly too small to hang your face out' of window on the 373 from Coogee, listening to sinsietr (which IS a bit freaky), I saw a man running for the bus. Which wouldn't be freaky at all, except for the fact that he was actually blind. Throwing caution to the wind, he trotted alongside my blue and white breeze block, a female friend a few metres in front of him, and a loyal white dog beside him. I expected the dog to bark when he reached the bus stop, but his friend stopped him instead. She watched from the path as he mounted the bus with his canine pal, and they seated. She waited, and was still looking at him as the bus pulled away. I wonder if he knows that she stands there watching? The strange thing is the buses are extremely regular (every 4 mins), so quite why he was partaking in the hazardous and exercise-ridden act of running is anyones guess, maybe he just ran because he could? 6: Back on the bus, in the other direction on Thursday night, I became caught on the threshold of damp. To the right of the bus the sun was shining and the greenery bright, yet, to the left the heavens were black and grey little miss skybanger was pissing over the land. Just as we pulled up by the yellow circus tent that has sprung up for a few shows, a noticed that below her flow a large rainbow had formed, and I could see the complete arc. The end of the rainbow was in the circus car park, and I was considering getting off the bus and digging under a parked vw for sovereigns, but we pulled away. Instead of leaving my treasure behind, it followed me, the whole rainbow stayed beside me, like it was fixed to the bus, and the ground just rolled along beneath it. It vanished as quickly as it appeared, and I bet some scummy dingo got my gold. 9: Rather seedy was the last oddity I saw. On Saturday I got the ferry to 'Watsons bay' , which on the head of land at the entrance to sydney harbour. Imagine my horror, when on this gloriously sunny day, at the bottom of the cliffs at the harbour mouth I saw dozens of naked men lying on the rocks! I was pretty sure they were friends of Dorothy and miss skybanger, in fact this was confirmed by a colleague today who told me she saw them publicly wanking each other off on the rocks the other day. Unpeturbed I continued to enjoy the majestic view across the harbour, until some stunted arab man shook my hand and asked where I was from, 'england' I said. He then began enquiring after my sexuality, so I had to use the necessary words to get rid of him, and later saw him pestering the starkers blokes below. He was getting nowhere fast with them, and to my immense amusement he proceeded in removing his jeans (likely size 38 short) and wandering around the rocks like an excited moustached child , in the biggest pair of red spotted blue silked boxers I have ever seen. He was bound to impress, but I ran away before I could find out. So next time you think of sydney harbour, or see pictures of the opera house and bridge, think of all the seediness foaming at the mouth! Oh, and if anyone cares, I think Beck is an incredibly funky chap, but his songs, while razz A M and Tazz, have no emotion and ultimately leave me cold (Save some very lush moments on 'Mutations') once the initial adrenalin wanes. John ***The superstar stamp collector knows the head of every country*** - http://www.members.tripod.com/john_kerswell/star.html - ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LookingDownward at xxx.com Mon Jan 17 08:49:11 2000 From: LookingDownward at xxx.com (LookingDownward at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 03:49:11 EST Subject: Sinister: It's like its seventy-two degrees in the head... all the time... Message-ID: <5a.5f040e.25b43187@aol.com> Hullo all you small, furry animals, and relatively large, hairless bipeds... This all started 'cos I wanted a list-crush. A person over whom I could fawn from afar, gushing about how dreamy or foxy or marvy they are, to take a little bit of the monotony from out of my life. But I'm awfully new to the list (I still smell of the nursery, I'm sure), so I didn't want to make a fool of myself by committing myself to somebody who could turn out to be a rapist, an accountant, or both. So I resolved to play Pygmalion; to go to the list body-part repository, and harvest enough pieces to create the perfect Sinisterine, and therefore my ideal list-crush. The preliminary trouble with that was that it seemed like it would be too narcissistic (although I always Galatea would have made a marvellous conversationalist), and then, when I assembled assorted body parts (unfortunately needing to use legs for arms as well as legs, etc..), it fell something short of my dream. I'm not much of a digital sculptor, I suppose. Not despairing entirely, I surrendered my neck to the group, and I may donate more of me later, if I can get the digital camera to work consistently. It seems doubtful, though... When I was a child, I was picked quickly for kick-ball, and the team that I pitched (or bowled, or whatever you'd call it) was the best for our grade. At the time, I thought I did so well 'cos it seemed like a good idea for everybody to have a good chance at kicking the ball; I tried to roll it as straight as possible. Having since spent hours throwing baseballs, footballs (US ones too), and other round objects, I realise that nobody kicked the ball when I hurled it as it was rolled quite poorly. But I was a fairly good bowler and volleyballer. Go figure. Erm... and as for Belle and Sebastian related content, I envy all of you who have B&S friends, family-members, and the like. I've tried showing most everybody I know the lurveliness of it all, but it's failed so miserably that the words "Belle & Sebastian" have become something of a keyword among my co-workers and immediate family for what's perceived as my awful music taste. My brother half-heartedly believes that I actually go into record-shoppes and ask for the most poorly-selling albums they have... I suppose that's about it. Hullo list, you've found a friend in me. A hyper-active, dull, narcissistic, student, boy, friend, but a friend nonetheless. It could be worse, couldn't it? I could be a rapist. Or an accountant. Or both. Paralis. PS - I don't have any established prejudice against accountancy and it's practitioners. It's just that an acquaintance of mine is determined to become one, and I've not quite taken off my weeds yet. I hope I've not offended anybody. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Mon Jan 17 10:05:20 2000 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 02:05:20 PST Subject: Sinister: wrestling for a living. Message-ID: <20000117100521.70090.qmail@hotmail.com> Since the listcrush-thingy is up again, I thought I'd write. Arf. Like the new idea that when two people vote each other you get to know your crush. And I found a way to find out it every time someone votes you! All you have to do is vote every single person on the sinister list. Easy. Eh? Only 1200 mails to send. Or maybe not. Am I the only one here who liked PE in school? I was a true sporting boy, played football for eight years. Played in our schoolteam, you know. And I was good at it too, I bet I'd kick the shit out of 95 per cent of people here in footie. Wanna try? The only time I hated PE was when we tried wrestling. Our PE teacher was a former wrestler (and the most horrible sexist I've EVER met in my life), so he thought he'd show us a few moves. On 7th grade I was one of the biggest guys in our class (hard to beleive these days, I'm soooo short), so naturally he decided to show some moves using me as his helpless opponent. THNUK! KRIIIINGGG! SLAPT! And there I was, lying on my back, my teacher lying on top of me, squeezing my head and trying to break every single bone in my body. My body ached for a week. And wrestling is SO homosexual. They used to wrestle in ancient Rome, and homosexuality was the Big thing then. And when you get a warning in wrestling you have to go to the floor on all fours when the other guy gets to you from behind. I don't consider that as macho at all. I rest my case. Yes, the B&S- t-shirts. MY IYFS- shirt is ok, but my Study at Stow You Dickhead- shirt is a bit on the small side. Beertitties. And I used to like my tummy, now its just this big chuck of fat. And there he was, and then I went. @--->--- Jake le PetitE ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Mon Jan 17 08:24:18 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 03:24:18 EST Subject: Sinister: sinister:blairwitch style & extra tidbits to make it a far less interesting post Message-ID: <2b.f8a98c.25b42bb2@aol.com> wow, so tonight was amazing. Although i am running on no sleep for well over a day, i'm still on my adrenaline rush. today in the morning time i went for a little hill climbing of my own. just down some steep ravines and then finding difficult areas to climb up. i do that all the time it's loads of fun. i recommend it. but tonight we went out into some woods and there is some tricky steps especially in the dark with one flashlight for five people, and it was insanely foggy out. and to get there we have to go through this gorge of a dried up river bed.and the rocks are unstable and wobbly which makes it worse at night in the fog. hehe. but we make it. finally with some trips over barbed wire. and thorn bushes. we make to the spot where thom has made us a camp grounds of sorts. we were going to stay the night but poor angie thoms woman was scared. hehe.so we sat around roasting marshamllows and making smores(marshmallowgrhamcrackerchocolate)but then we heard some coyotes rather close we put the fire out and hightailed it back to thoms house. he lives near the woods.but um yeah. and then our friends ryan and ben show up and scare the living bejesus out of us. it was terribly frightening, honestly. ryan wears this hideous trench coat. and it swelled up in the breeze and he expanded like four times his size it was truly frightening. ryan thinks he's a bad mofo. but he's not he's just a moron with an ego too big for his britches.I knew it was them when i turned around but it didn't register and so of course i scream bloody murder. and then i'm like stupid girl shut up. and sami continues to scream and i clamp my hand over her mouth because even tho we're in the woods it is very much a residentia area. oklahoma is cool like that. i think. but yeah so other than the scares it was a loverly night, it wasn't cold it was a nice 46. farenheight. and the fire made it superb. now i just need to find a nice fella to cuddle with around the fire. all of my friends have boyfriends. and or girlfriends. oh well i've reduced myself to being the old woman with cats when we're all grown up. i'm the one my friends will call to watch their offspring whilst they run off with their hubbys and lovers. 'spinster iris' i should start sewing frumpy old dresses now and stock up on big granny boots. like the grannie wears on beverly hillbillies. i'm trying to think of something to relate this to B&S well ok. i played them for my circle of friends and they were like are they from the sixties? no rave reviews i was rather disheartened. i figured at least sami. my best friend would enjoy them. unfortunately most of my friends have no taste in music and listen to things like slipknot. and korn. and other such modern day psychobabble from overexerted 30 something hardcore versions of the boy bands. sigh. sami thom, and i excluded we have good taste. or in my opinon we do. haha. PE. egads, that was the bane of my existance in elementary school. luckily in middle school tho, it wasn't required. in highschool on the other hand it is required to have either a year or two years(ican't remember)of physical education in order to graduate. and me being terribly unsporty. and more interested in dying my hair blue or green or whatever colour i bought that weekend.than doging a ball. talked my doctor into signing me a release for for my 'asthma' i really do have asthma it's just not *that* bad. but well he understood,for some reason to which i will be eternally grateful for, for the rest of my life. as far as buses go i've never rode a bus,except greyhound from okalahoma to ny and back again. that was enough for me let me tell you. i'm not abouve. but probably beneath riding buses, i've always had a car. well not always but being the type of girl i am and the crowd i ran around with I had a ride no matter what. and round here public transport isn't all it's cracked up to be. lots of people use the bus in the city. but here in suburban ville. it's not so kosher. when i lived in NY of course i used the subway almost everyday. the buses here aren't too safe anyway. I wouldn't get on one alone i don't think. no not at all. well I suppose i should locomote. it's two am and i am suddenly dragging to a slow halt. ciao bella iris and each day sinks its boot print into her clay and she is not the same _ani_difranco_ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". 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Name: not available URL: From jordiet at xxx.com Mon Jan 17 10:25:50 2000 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: 17 Jan 2000 02:25:50 -0800 Subject: Sinister: stars and fields and stuff Message-ID: <20000117102550.9885.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From sleeka_sounds at xxx.com Mon Jan 17 11:20:28 2000 From: sleeka_sounds at xxx.com (Sleeka Sounds) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 03:20:28 PST Subject: Sinister: chutney ferret Message-ID: <20000117112028.58441.qmail@hotmail.com> Alright you lot, time to bend over and receive your destiny. Things of importance first: 1. Happy New Year. I know it was ages ago, but I mean it man. 2. Po Caff. I'm performing in trouser's bedroom on the night of the 28th January, and before that I'm playing at the Poetry Cafe and it would be great if you could come but you don't have to no-one's forcing you and it's up to you. Other performers are the foxgloves and Calmer but trousers will probably tell you more about it cos he's great. Hear me now. look at this http://www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/cgi-bin/vote.pl It's the Glastonbury vote thing. There's one vote for v-twin! Did Jason from v-twin sing in the Gyres before he grew up? I was in John Smith's the bookshop and as well as Stephen Pastel, Jason from V-twin works there. He was listening to oasis. Rock! Apparently Belle and Sebastian were on tour in Germany, and they were playing with conkers, and Stuart Murdoch bent down to pick up a conker, but it wasn't a conker, it was a bit of "dog's dirt". True story. AND I've worked out whose breasts they are all on my own. Still yours, Chris Leonard http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~calnd/sleeka/ Stuart Murdoch Fan Page http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~calnd/stuart/stuart.htm ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Mon Jan 17 11:16:42 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:16:42 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Refreshing the parts other foodstuffs can't reach Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22B72009@SERVER1> Now here's a *truly* stupid question: How come the left parenthesis ( and the right one ) don't mirror each other? They don't on my computer, though that may just be gill sans for you. A nice font. Oh, it is just gill sans. Possibly the least relevant start to a post EVER! And what is kickball, anyway? I can't actually remember where I was picked in PE - first if it was badminton (such a macho game), lower middle if it was anything else, I expect. I can also join the elite of red-carded sinisterines (and believe me, you don't want to get on the wrong side of Enthusiastic Pamela H) - I was once playing five a side footie when I was professionally fouled by the same bloke twice in a minute. I wasn't crazy about this guy anyway, but I saw red, and grabbed him by the neck, threw him on the ground and kicked him in the back and the head. The referee wasn't too impressed, but oddly it broke the ice between me and my victim, and we got on really well from then on. Make friends through mindless violence, kids! (I was 13 when the above happened, so don't judge me too harshly. Or do, if you saw my horror tackle that left Martin's leg broken in 15 places last summer. Almost) I've decided to boycott the list crush this time around. So don't you all go voting for me, cos it won't wash. I said stop it. Tsk, really. Talking of Oregon - well, I've never been, but I learnt all I needed to from Jello Biafra's description of being attacked by bat-wielding rednecks in Portland (I think). It's on the Give me Convenience or Give me Death album (I think again), which was one of the seminal albums in my more noisy youth. Definitely not enough Dead Kennedys discussion on Sinister. Canada, however, is lovely, or at least Vancouver, BC is. A few too many people with big trousers and badly dyed hair, but isn't that always the way? Still hoping to make it to Toronto later his year, but as the bill for my flat tops 140 grand, I'm not over-optimistic. Ah, I'll sort something out - the prospect of meeting Genevieve is all I need to get me motivated... Miss Vicky and I were chopping up bird eye chillies last night, and there are now few parts of my body which haven't been stinging hotly since last dinner time. It certainly makes the traditional W a novel experience. 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachel at xxx.uk Mon Jan 17 12:40:48 2000 From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:40:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: the mighty scream, reminiscing and reading reccommendation Message-ID: <001d01bf60e8$2e9a3340$0829883e@preinstalledco> hey everyone i went to see primal scream last night and it was the most unbelievably fabulous fantastic gig i have EVER been too!!! they played this tiny venue in oxford which was absolutely heaving, and they crammed 9 people on a stage which has problems accommodating 5, having to squeeze duffy and his keyboard behind one amp stack, and proceeded to create the most amazing sounds i have ever heard. i can't get over how songs that i absolutely adore could be made 10 times better!! i've seen the primals once before and they were good, but this was magnificent. they showcased loads of songs from the new album 'exterminator' which i *think* is out january 31st, which you should all go buy cos on the basis of last night it has to be stunning. every time i close my eyes i can picture bobby gillespie looking just such a rock god, even GRINNING during kowalski!! i didn't think anything could get any better, when as a final encore they played an emotional 'movin' on up'. wow. the whole place erupted, it was mental. i am so happy!! can you tell?! i am listening to 'vanishing point' very loudly now, that is why this post is *even* more disjointed than usual, cos i keep stopping to dance around the living room. my cat thinks i have lost it. she is giving me quizzical looks. when i was younger i was damn good at P.E. i was even in a county cross country competition thing. it nearly killed me though, and i think that was when i started on the slippery slope to become the unfit lazy skiver i am today. first i stopped doing the running events in sports day, and did the jumps instead. i had a bit of a respite by discovering a knack for triple jump, but i really couldn't be arsed. i was in the useless/skiver group while everyone else was doing gcse, which was funny. as we were the sporting scum of the school we only ever did trampolining (pervert teacher alert) or badminton on a continual rotation for two years. now, i am shit scared of heights so there was no way i was jumping on that trampoline. by the time those two years were done they'd got me on the trampoline, where i sat on it clutching to the sides until my 30 second 'go' was over. badminton was hilarious. i am terrible at all sports that involve some sort of racket/stick. and badminton was the worst. did anyone else have leagues where you moved up/down the courts? well our teacher sectioned off the bottom court for myself and my 3 partners in skiving laziness, where we sat and chatted for the lesson. just as long as we turned up, brought our kit and got changed that was fine!! and people moan that schools don't put enough emphasis on sports! maybe i'm just ultra unobservant (which could well be the case) but i'd never noticed jim gilmer's e-mail ending thingy before. it's a jeff noon quote from 'vurt' which is one of the best books ever. just because you can find jeff noon in science fiction sections in bookshops, don't let this put you off. i can't stand 99.9% of science fiction, but jeff noon, he's something else. he draws you into this manchester-based world, and honestly you get in so deep that it's hard to get out again. his books are astonishing, they really are. go read! if you've got this far you will be over the moon to know i am going now, off into my primal scream soundscape lots of love rachel xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Mon Jan 17 16:02:04 2000 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:02:04 GMT Subject: Sinister: 'W' thing Message-ID: <20000117160205.42256.qmail@hotmail.com> Surely Uk listees will recognize it as the Wackaday sign (as hosted by Timmy Mallet and Micheal Strachen) sometime in th ebad bad eighties? Soory I have just had my one and only exam of this semester and am a bit trollied Paulxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ECSAMENZ at xxx.uk Mon Jan 17 16:09:46 2000 From: ECSAMENZ at xxx.uk (Menzies Amy) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:09:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister:RE: 'W' thing Message-ID: <61DE2ADF138DD3118E2700062B00055AA8FFF0@exch-student.livjm.ac.uk> >Surely Uk listees will recognize it as the Wackaday sign (as >hosted by Timmy >Mallet and Micheal Strachen) sometime in th ebad bad eighties? Ah, Wackaday! That pillar of eighties youth society! Where would you have put your plaster?? Whatever happened to Magic(?) anyway? Amy xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erica.macarthur at xxx.com Mon Jan 17 16:27:50 2000 From: erica.macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:27:50 -0000 Subject: Sinister: look at me Message-ID: <007501bf6107$ecb34460$8e9001d5@default> Dear List, Hello! oh wow look, it's me! I havent posted since Last year. LAST YEAR. Phew. Though I havent been subcribed, I've been keeping up with the current affairs via the WWW (wank wank wank?) pages. and bloody hell, the list crush has been made all posh, though I do quite like the idea of being notified when I vote for someone who votes for me. Not that anyone will now I'm yesterday's news, sniffle. I was too busy hiding behind the bike sheds while everyone else was running cross country to worry about being picked last. I think butch female P.E teachers should be shot, at least with male P.E teachers you could utter those two magic words "Ladies Problems" and not be bothered. Oh Jesus, I have to go and PAINT naked people now. I promise I shall be writing something of more value soon. Erica x The house of Scarlet 2000 http://www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nelle at xxx.se Mon Jan 17 17:22:46 2000 From: nelle at xxx.se (Ellen) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:22:46 +0200 Subject: Sinister: happiness is an option Message-ID: <388344C6.720D@hem.passagen.se> PE: the best thing aboutleaving school and moving on to uni is the lack of physical exercise, i dare say. i don't remember having a being-picked-last problem, though, maybe 'cause i never stayed long enough not to be picked. the teacher was either very understanding or just naive - often we could just tell him that we'd "go for a walk" instead of playing football, and he'd let us. usually our "walk" ended at the coffeshop down the street. he must have known. maybe he'd just given up on our poor lazy souls. book: someone mentioned a norweigan book which i remember loving a few years ago..i don't know, but i think the main charachter was called unn. that's my best friend's name too. something made that book special. owl: chapter two in the story about the little jazzy owl in a red jacket: - south park steals the "i love to sing-ah" song and plays it when cartman is in a gangbang with aliens. *sigh* nothing is left innocent and pure nowadays..; ) music: i surprised myself yesterday and bought "nightlife" - the new pet shop boys cd. i didn't think they had more than their passports in common with b&s, but man, was i wrong. i can almost hear stuart m singing "you only tell me you love me when you're drunk". list-crush votes: i'll never have one. sad but true. (come on, prove me wrong..) ; ) love you all /ellen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dchard at xxx.ca Mon Jan 17 19:15:07 2000 From: dchard at xxx.ca (ipecac spice) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:15:07 -0400 (AST) Subject: Sinister: and the snow is finally falling & my fair neighbor to the south Message-ID: hi everybody. it's been snowing for about 24 hours here in halifax/dartmouth. it used to snow here but ever since i started university we've had a mysterious lack of snow. it generally tends to snow and then the rain washes it all away. today the bus was sliding around. kind of scary. i always wonder what is so important that people would actually drive their cars somewhere during a snowstorm. it would take a lot to get me driving around today. joyously the weather led to my afternoon class being cancelled. so i just have to comment on the canada comment by the texan. certainly we are very much like the states. i think that our wishy washy insecurity makes us a bit more humble though. i have nothing against many americans. my cousin is american nd he isn't all that bad. but i have a part-time job in a souvenir store. this past summer we had a lot of cruise ship coming up from new york and those people were some of the worst people i have ever met. they made no effort to understand our money ("can i pay for this in dollars?" not understanding that us canadians have dollars as well) and most of them got really angry that we had to give them canadian change, even though we're really doing them a huge favour by letting them use their currency at all. people from new jersey complained to me that they had come "up here" to get away from the heat and not realizing that it can get hot in the summer here. many of these people expressed surprise that our prices were in canadian. one of the best was the sailor who asked if my parents were american b/c my american was so good! then he said that he thought we all spoke french. anyway. it was all very entertaining but also frustrating at times. i know it was probably not the most representative sample of americans that i saw but they were overwhelming in their ignorance (i could tell more). i don't really know what my point was. i guess just that until people are out of their country you may not get to see them as other nationalities do. sorry for bothering you all with so many posts lately. i have this secret hope that if i keep posting eventually someone will give me a list crush vote. then again people would probably be more likely to vote for me if i agreed to stop posting. i wonder if you get notfied of the crush if you vote for yourself...hmmm... -di "i respect those who have faith even though they are ignorant" -hemingway +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Llywelynapgwilym at xxx.com Mon Jan 17 21:09:31 2000 From: Llywelynapgwilym at xxx.com (Llywelynapgwilym at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:09:31 EST Subject: Sinister: Are you lonesome tonight? Message-ID: Hello everyone, I'll be brief because, having been given a voice, I find myself, as many new born babies do, with nothing intelligable to say. Please accept me. Please nurture me, and, above all else, please come to love and cherish me. Llywelyn xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Mon Jan 17 20:58:57 2000 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:58:57 BST Subject: Sinister: eeee! you're more trouble than you're worth Message-ID: <817903470A3@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> my gran always uses the prefix eeeee when she's shocked / disgusted with something (usually me) not that that's what i think of you lot, in fact oh how i've missed you!!! enough drama, but godammit, 311 emails waiting in my inbox when i get back uni because the bloody thing wouldn't unsubscribe in our time of crisis, its enough to make a girl be arsed to do something, anything except that i'm far too lazy for anything like that. so i'm afraid that i've had to delete a great deal of them unread. but no, now there's more of a crisis, the pressure's on to prove myself once more and be reinstate my mid-table mediocrity on the list crush thingie. for those of you who dislike whinging, i have pleasing news that as a new weeks resolution i decided that for the moment i am going to remain resolutely single. no more whoring myself around the north west or anywhere else for that matter, this kind of thing only succeeds in making me feel cheap and unhappy. unless of course the gorgeous bloke with floppy hair decides to start speaking to me again, but he ignored me on saturday so it doesn't look hopeful. nevermind eh? christmas was a very un-b+s-esque time for me. i don't think i caught a single bus the whole time, my friends in leeds seem to prefer the luxury of catching taxis around town despite the fact that none of them ever have any money, hmm perhaps the two are related. a second mention in one post for my gran, but not so complimentary this time. she was doing my ironing, which i always tell her not to do and lo, she ironed my colourblind t-shirt on the wrong side and smudged the pattern, thus condemning it to the same fate as my uresei yatsura t-shirt ie sitting in my draw for the rest of eternity because i can't bear to throw it out. oh! the humanity!!! i can feel myself getting decidedly longwinded and i have two (TWO) exams tomorrow which i should be revising for, so i will bid you farewell and wish you lots of love and jaffa cakes, fiona ->->-> all men have secrets..... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittenmouse at xxx.com Mon Jan 17 22:12:27 2000 From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (kitten mouse) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:12:27 PST Subject: Sinister: b&s a-z + french pop Message-ID: <20000117221227.4561.qmail@hotmail.com> hi everybody, how's everyone's exciting (ugh) new year going? it's not even new anymore is it? i'm in the doldrums of schoolwork right now, but reveling (sp?) in the one sleater kinney mp3 i have on my computer. how could i have hated them so much? they're fabulous. the only other exciting thing happening at my house (well, apartment/dorm/ something or other) is that my school moved an old historic queen anne style house from six blocks away to about 15 feet away from my window. they just loaded it up on some railroad ties and wheels and toed the whole freaking 3 story house about 7 blocks right thru downtown portland. well, not thru the business part of downtown, but thru the apartment/university district/freeway offramp section anyway. and the wind was blowing the trees about 50 miles an hour that day in the park blocks (which is where i live and where they moved the house to). there were a lot of people standing around with cameras taking pictures. anyway, now for the important, not so chatty part of my message. i'm sure i mentioned a few times before that i'm going to eventually do a belle and sebastian a thru z (songs a-z, that is) show at my radio station as soon as i've got 3 or 4 hours to kill on the air. (i usually only have a one hour weekly slot unless i fill in for someone). so anyway, i'm asking for any input, suggestions, etc that anyone has regarding that. you can post to the list, or send it to me. i already have an alphabetically ordered list of the songs from their official releases. also, i was thinking of doing another show about pop music sung in french. doesn't have to be specifically from france, since there are all those other french speaking countries. it would be interesting to get groups that are from canada and africa, as well as france. doesn't have to be new either, since there are certainly some interesting things from the past. the only two artists/groups i know that are french are serge gainsbourg and stereolab, so suggestions, etc are quite welcome (please!). all i ask is that they be worth listening to. ok. anyway, thanks. sincerely, andrea kittenmouse radio (mondays 9.00-10.00 pm PST) kpsu 1450 am portland, oregon kittenmouse at hotmail.com www.kpsu.org can't look at the sky without looking right thru it ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seilsd at xxx.net Mon Jan 17 23:41:18 2000 From: seilsd at xxx.net (Damon Seils) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:41:18 -0500 Subject: Sinister: a gorgeous man with a swimmer's build Message-ID: <3883A89E.DA8FDDE8@earthlink.net> Piddles, gather round. Important developments of the last few days... 1. Adam Apparatus may inadvertently have discouraged certain "rowdy girls" from taking part in the sweet delicate pudding that is the body parts page. Let's please have none of that. Rowdy girls, do with your body parts as you like. Mr. Apparatus, I'll speak with you in the back office, please. Please. 2. The breasts are Kerry's, apparently. Let's all pretend we didn't hear her admission. I mean, what if you've been dreaming they belonged to someone else? What if you were hoping they belonged to Honey, or to the girl down the road, or to Mother Russia? I know of two people in particular who've laid down good money that they're Isobel's. And then Kerry comes along and let's it out...so to speak. Let's keep pretending the breasts belong to someone else. Dreams make life worth living. I learned that in a movie about American football. You can learn a lot from movies about American football. 3. Now that this Will Porter has achieved a sort of minor celebrity status among some of us, I think it's time we start applying some pressure. Time for Mr. Porter to follow the rules. It looks like he's mentioned his bottom in a recent post. Let me check my notes. Yes, that's right. His ass. And something about the pointed end of a cowboy boot. Well, technically speaking, only the ass falls under my purview here. So let's see to it. No content of any relevance here, really. Well, I mentioned Isobel, but... Does that really count? Um. Oh, I think the new box set is a dumb idea, and all the kids should boycott it. Say it with me... Oh nevermind. Damon Langerflitzen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk Mon Jan 17 22:02:56 2000 From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (sweetie) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:02:56 -0000 Subject: Sinister: my mind sometimes takes me there, i find this ever so slightly worrying as i could end up anywhere Message-ID: <01ef01bf6145$35571380$d91e883e@anne666theasylum> sinister i was wondering where has the poetry parrot gone?? exams ive got em sounds like some sort of disease but i do, ive got my higher prelims :( i had my first one today, english half of the first paper was an interp, and in the passage it said 'twee' and immediatly thought of sinister :) death has been weighing rather heavily on my mind recently i dont know why its weird, it doesnt worry me, death that is, ive just been thinking about it alot personally i believe in reincarnation. i like that idea. beautiful only slightly mental sweetie x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Tue Jan 18 04:55:00 2000 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:55:00 -0500 Subject: Sinister: how fast does your skin freeze as your heart grows cold References: <20000115193728.88474.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3883F208.28F5D617@utoronto.ca> it is very cold in toronto. i'm listening to this band called pedro the lion right now, they're not bad. but apperantly the fellow has this problem with girls shaving their legs because it's not natural. now i personally kind of like the look of unfurry knees, but what irritates me about that is the use of the word natural. i mean what is natural? is playing an electric guitar 'natural' mr. pedro the lion singer man? i mean, bathing and shaving my face so that i don't smell and look weasly isn't natural if we look at it a certain way, but i hardly think he'd object to me being clean and tidy. i have mice, i suppose killing them so that their disease carrying droppings don't kill me first isn't too natural either. i suppose really natural and virtuous people lead these idyllic rousseauian noble savage lives for all of 3 days until their bare hippy feet step on a nail and they get tetanus and die because their natural jaws locked shut and they were no longer able to sustain themselves on organic granola. just to prove i am no heartless killer of mice initially i was very solemn and weepy about putting the mouse traps down, i kept imagining that i'd be killing one of those super intelligent mice from the secret of NIMH. i'm still afraid of actually finding a dead mouse in one of the traps. but they kept me up for 2 hours last night with their carousing and i was inclined to take vengence this morning. speaking of vengence: Alexander 'ass man' Borgia scribbled: >I hope you realise, Steve, my mission in life now is to somehow seek revenge on >you. Finally, sometime in 1986, I was able to get that stupid theme song out of >my head once and for all. You have brought it back. Thanks a hell of a lot. I am >now whistling the tune from Hogan's Heroes. Do you hear it? Good, I hope it gets >stuck in your head for a few days and your sleep gets interupted by nightmares of >being stuck in a room with Richard Dawson telling you, "Survey Says!" First off, i was quite glad to find that little theme song re-appear in my head as i passed the dishes around the christmas dinner table. perhaps it was my increadible smallness, but i really liked that show and thought it was grand, not as grand as the belle and sebby tv show and not as grand as playing with transformers but pretty good none-the-less. you should be careful with this revenge thing, i currrently have the best of Bony M here qued up to the most catchy bits and i am fully capable of raising the ante in music warfare even higher. unless you want your ass Ra-Ra-Rasputin-ed out of existence i suggest desisting with hostilities immediately. also, speaking of revenge: can anyone make heads or tales of Kleist? if so, mail me privately. i have to read him for lit and its just not going down well. also watch it Alex or i may go Michael Kohlhaas on your ass. i just got a job ushering at the glenn gould studio here in toronto. its actually a government job, which sort of fulfills the only career plan i had which was to work for the feds and get all them shweeeeet benefits. so now i can buy more shoes and focus less on my school work and my own jules-and-jim-like personal life. happy days here we come. i also got a bunch of pink shirts in anticipation of wearing nothing but powder blue, lavender and pink as soon as the weather gets nice enough for me to pull such an obviously spring-timey move. the plan is to look like a member of Kraftwerk with the colour balance adjusted wrongly. also it should shock people after seeing nothing but grey on me for the past 2 months. jeeze, not that i have anything for real to say. i'm kind of scared of the listcrush thing now. i mean, now people could potentially find things out about me. ouch. steven +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Tue Jan 18 06:24:14 2000 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 01:24:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: it's a grey day In-Reply-To: <20000117002354.69358.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Sinister, > are there any Los Angeles sinisterines who are going to see Air at the > American Legion Hall next saturday? Just in the way a word seems to pop up everywhere after you find out its meaning, an article on Air appeared in the last issue of the New York Times Magazine. So I found out that they are French. That makes all the difference. Does anyone use the word 'lover' anymore? 'Lover' could make you weak in the knees, but 'amant' would cause a faint. But it must be cos I am not a native speaker. Surely the French do not feel that way about their native language. It's snowing! I haven't seen snow since I was 5 years old. It's so powdery and fine. It's covering everything and making everything clean. The dead rat in the crosswalk must be buried underneath it. (Unspoken uncleanly things send a shiver down my spine.) I had to bend down and touch it (the snow not the rat), then felt silly as a car was driving up. (Our house faces the intersection.) And being the first one to step in it! I picture Johan as a tall person with big hands and feet, so the image of him sitting in a tiny (to produce the right effect) chair hunched over knitting needles was amusing. And Newport Beach must have changed a great deal since I last knew young people there (being ancient now) for a knitting society to be popular. But then I read somewhere that knitting is popular among young socialites such as Hilary Swank, so it must just not be sinister. Hannah does truly look like a doll in her sinister picture. Whoever took it or stylized it was quite clever. The eyelashes remind me of dolls whose eyes open when you sit them up to reveal a glassy blue stare. It's a bit eerie. In one of the articles in the press archives on the Jeepster site, they mention a sound like cellophane being torn on "Expectations" that's supposed to be the sound of Stuart unzipping his cardigan. Listen for it. It's quite exciting. That ends my bias against zippered cardigans as not being true cardigans. Now then, I must engage in my usual round of doomed-to-fail Nick-baiting. On the basis of the following, might one question the sensitivity of Nick's hearing? Nick wrote: It was a perfect moment. One second Chris Moyles was roaring "And later we've got only got SIR PAUL MCCARTNEY!!!" for the fifteenth time and the next, there they were. They played like *angels*. The song was lifted by the introduction of a wonderfully graceful alternate guitar line. Perhaps some musically-minded person could explain to me what the difference was. Mick had had his trumpet confiscated and played some kind of guitar instead. But Mick wrote: We recorded two songs. We did two takes of one, 'The Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner'. We asked if they could show the first. They showed the second. All I can remember about that second take was me playing the wrong chord at one point, and Stevie turning to me and shouting, 'Play the right chords mate!'. Although said purely in jest, I went to pieces, playing a succession of wrong chords after that. But the sentence "The song was lifted by the introduction of a wonderfully graceful alternate guitar line" makes everything else unimportant. Fumble and hide behind jokey sarcasm as much as you want, but it shows! Imagine using the word 'lifted' in that way. And it probably worked in as an improvisation. Yours, Youn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From llat at xxx.com Tue Jan 18 07:59:43 2000 From: llat at xxx.com (Lucas Dambergs) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:59:43 EST Subject: Sinister: Hot and crusty Message-ID: <20000118075943.22813.qmail@hotmail.com> hi, i'm lucas. long time reader, first time poster. i usually use capital letters in my emails (as well as lowercase ones) but i think messages written entirely in lowercase are kind of endearing, so i thought i'd give it a shot on my first outing, in a rather obvious attempt to curry your collective favour. it's hard, actually. i keep typing capitals by mistake. i've never written before becuase i've never really felt the itch to share my life with the world (though i do enjoy reading about your lives very much), but today was just such a wonderful day i decided that i had to relive it by writing it down. so now you'll get to live through it too. my day started by getting up extra early so i could head down to the art college and register for the intro photo class. i just finished my degree at dalhousie university (in halifax, nova scotia, where i live), and i decided that after four and a half years of computer science i really needed to do something totally different: photography! also, most of my friends go to the art college, so i already know my way around pretty well. today was the first day of registration for non-degree students, and i was sure there would be a line, so i got there extra early. i would have been there even earlier, but a major snowstorm happened to be going on, which made halifax's normally unreliable public transit system completely unpredictable, and very, very slow. still, i managed to get into my class! i was number eighteen, and there was a twenty person limit, so i just made it in. i'm so excited! i actually went to the first class last week, even though i wasn't yet registered, and it was really fun. totally unlike all the classes i had a dal. let me tell you about dalhousie's computer science department. it's completely stereotypical, just like a bad movie. the classes tend to be 99% nerds, and not fun, entertaining nerds. they're bad, annoying nerds. and there are almost no girls. the average dal class has 50%-60% female students. computer science classes are lucky to get 10%. so, when i arrived at my photo class last week to find not only fun, interesting people, but actual, real, live girls, i was very happy. but back to my day. the middle part was fairly uneventful, though certainly not bad. now that i've finished my degree i'm working at two computer help desk-type jobs at dal, and they were both pretty dead today, due to the ongoing storm. as i left the second job, headed for home, i ran into the girl who works at the front desk, who told me that a tall, pretty girl with curly hair and colourful clothes had stopped by that morning looking for me. she also said that this girl intended to return tomorrow, so hopefully i'll get to find out who it was (though i already have a pretty good idea). mysteries are fun. so are girls. and mysterious girls are great. when i got home i received three very nice phone calls. the first was from a new friend, who is moving away next week. we've only just started to get to know each other, but we've already become pretty good friends. she seemed a little worried that we'd lose touch when she moved, so i reassurred her that i definitely want to stay her friend, even if our friendship can only continue through the phone and email. anyway, we mostly just talk to each other, so it really doesn't matter what cities we happen to be in when we do that. in fact, i'm looking forward to writing her long letters. she's a very smart and thoughtful girl. she also told me two other things. 1: apparently there have been rumors going around that we're dating! we both found that pretty funny, especially considering her imminent departure. it would suck to fall in love with someone who was moving away in a week. 2: she told me that really enjoys talking to me, and that i'm a good listener. she said that she thinks i'm a good friend. that made me feel very good. the second phone call was from another friend who i hadn't talked to in a long time. so we talked for about and hour and caught up with each others lives. the third phone call was from another friend of mine, who said that he and his roommates were going to take advantage of the enormous snowfall by going sledding on citadel hill, and that i should come along. so i did. when the four of us got to the hill (at around 10:30pm) we found that thirty or fourty other people had had the same idea. it was like a big sledding party. i recognised many of the others (halifax is a small place), and everyone was incredibly friendly. we were all cheering each other on when someone had a good run down the hill, and there was much swapping of vehicles. we had come equipped with four crazy carpets (thin, malleable rectangles of plastic with handles, for those of you from warmer climes), and a two-person toboggan. we took a couple of turns with the toboggan before letting others use it. then we got to play with our crazy carpets, as well as various other sleds discs, snowboards, and whatever else people had brought out, while the toboggan did the rounds. i think practically everyone got a chance to use it at least once. the atmosphere on the hill was really fun, friendly, and inviting. everyone was having fun, and we all wanted to share the fun with everyone else. after about an hour people started to leave, so my friend and i decided to take one last tandem ride down the hill on the toboggan, him in front, me in back. the snow was now packed very well, which allowed us to reach speeds unattainable in any of our previous runs. just as we were reaching the bottom of the slope, whooping and hollering with excitement, my feet got themselves caught on a lump on the ground. according to one of our friends who was observing from nearby, it looked like i had activated some sort of ejection seat. i very quickly launched from a reclined sitting position to a fully erect standing position, hovering about a foot over where the toboggan had passed just moments ago, and then continued my foreward rotation, landing face first in the snow, with my arms outstretched in front of me, as if i were reaching for the now quite distant sled. i laid there for quite a while. after that, my right leg felt kind of twitchy and painful, so i decided to call it a night and retired to a nearby friend's house, who had also been sledding, and who had been thoughtful enough to prepare hot chocolate, wine, and pasta for those returning from the hill. it was very nice to change into my warm, dry clothes, which i had brought with me, and sit and chat while consuming yummy, hot foods. what a fun night. and not a capital letter to be found. lucas dambergs llat at hotmail.com halifax, nova scotia, canada "against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain." -friedrich schiller, 1759-1805 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vegasbaby at xxx.com Tue Jan 18 08:18:34 2000 From: vegasbaby at xxx.com (Courtney Knopf) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:18:34 PST Subject: Sinister: oregon is bad, catch it if you can Message-ID: <20000118081834.75998.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello again, dears. two posts from me in as many days. that's quite shocking really. at this rate i may become a regular poster. Tonight rather than reveling in my extra day off from school by going out and doing something moderately entertaining and/or debauched, i sat at home and watched the Real World/Road Rules Challenge 2000. why, oh why am I such a slave to the Bunim-Murray machine? tell me WHY i care that Piggy is afraid to bungee jump, not to mention the fact that her name is Piggy! yet i watch. i'm helpless. clearly i have no self-discipline. >Talking of Oregon - well, I've never been, but I learnt all I needed to >from Jello Biafra's description of being attacked by bat-wielding rednecks >in Portland (I think). well, in defense of my hometown, i must say that most of the rednecks who populate the state of oregon (and there are QUITE a few of them) tend to do so outside of the Portland city limits. i haven't lived there since i went away to college in 1996 and only come back for a week or so at a time, but it's mostly the same. just stay the hell out of clackamas county and you're good. >also, i was thinking of doing another show about pop music sung in french. >doesn't have to be specifically from france, since there are all those >other french speaking countries. personally, I'd reccommend April March, anything off the Pop Romantique compilation from Emperor Norton Records (both of which KPSU should have, if they're worth their salt), Valerie LeMercier, Autour De Lucie, Arling & Cameron have a few french songs. and considering you're from Portland, if you havwen't picked it up already, i'm ordering you to get Pink Martini's album "Sympathique" right this instant. since i got such a response from the angelenos going to the Air show, who all ismaking it out to the double booked evening of Catatonia and Travis on the 27th? good night dearies. xoxo ~Courtney http://kscr.usc.edu http://www.soundbreak.com http://www.theshrubbery.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Tue Jan 18 10:00:30 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 05:00:30 EST Subject: Sinister: welcome to electric smock therapy Message-ID: <6c.fd701a.25b593be@aol.com> wow, so i love this internet only radio station. they always play belle and sebastian.actually they are about to play them now after two songs. and recently they've started playing einsturzende neubauten too. they are fabulous because they post their play list. so if they are doing something you haven't heard or want to hear it's there for the time. it's nice. it really is. www.3wk.com i'm afraid my day wasn't as nearly as exciting lucas' was. i slept through most of it when i should be out looking for a job. and look staying up all night on the internet. i'm bound for a meltdown now haha.my friend diana is trying to convince me that salma hayek is 'sexy' it's not working I don't think girls with busty tops and plated teeth are all that attractive. i think girls like kate moss are cute. perhaps thats just me. this same girl likes to toot her own horn. saying things like i am just so insane sometimes. if she does something weird. and i am the type of person who doesn't care at all about things like when she says 'you know what sucks' or 'do you wanna hear what really sucks?' i'd love to tell her no for once but being that she's the best friend i had when i live in Ny i can't very well be cruel to her. she reminds me of a penguin with a unibrow. she's a nice enough broad i suppose. well BandS has played and gone. and the stupid thing messed up right at the begging then i lose my connection. that is my highlight for the day. the wonders of aol(hell) it's stupid really because i can walk 20 feet or so to my cds and put it on but lazyness forbids me from doing so. well i reckon i shall call it a night. ciao folks. iris don't ask her why she needs to be free she'll tell you it's the only way to be. _the_rolling_stones_ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dunca_chap at xxx.com Tue Jan 18 11:04:24 2000 From: dunca_chap at xxx.com (Adam Chapman) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:04:24 GMT Subject: Sinister: burble Message-ID: <20000118110424.6510.qmail@hotmail.com> Well howdy and happy new year to anyone STILL recovering/finding a pooter for the first time since then. Is there som kind of mass aversion to physical exercise in these parts? If so i'm sorry, but i for one don't share it, despite having the sporting ability equivilent to a party political broadcasts truth quoitient. Hang on, i'm missing the point again aren't i? What i disliked wasn't so much pe lessons per se, but being told by an ex-Bristol scrum half that Rugby could derive any kind of enjoyment. I'm sure running round a field caked in mud while being chased by 15 humourless men is someones idea of fun, but its not mine... Still, having said this i guess i should come clean as a long term cricketer which at least is civilised - you go in the warm if it rains and have breaks for meals who cares if its dull to watch? Anyway, enough. I'm off to fight with my bicycle... Adam (CApITals! rah!) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cbrown2 at xxx.com Tue Jan 18 12:01:05 2000 From: cbrown2 at xxx.com (cbrown2 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:01:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I've never seen magic as crazy as this Message-ID: <8625686A.00420DE8.00@em-stpmta-01.mmm.com> Hello sinister types I'm having the most boring day imaginable so I thought I'd torture you lot, (can you imagine a whole day of running the same macro over and over again? Try not to, it hurts). Personally I used to really enjoy PE, not that I was fantastic or anything. I did manage to get myself sent off in my only competetive rugby match though, to this day I still swear that I merely stepped into the gap on the try line and didn't run through the gap and kick the opposing forward smartly in the head. It may have looked like that but it wasn't the intention. You may remember from my last post (though I doubt it, it was duller than this one) that my not-so-baby-anymore sister quite liked Tigermilk, well I did her a copy and last night she requested that I bring "everything by them ever" when I next go to visit! How I flushed with pride when she told me how all her friends think she's wierd cos she goes round listening to we rule the school over and over instead of listening to Steps like the rest of them. Aahh it's like I'm vicariously re-living my school days through her (except for B&S read the Smiths). Added to that I've sent a 'best of B&S' that I made to my distant new special friend (isn't it typical, you meet someone who's pretty, clever and interesting, who actually likes you, and what does she do after 4 days? she jets off home to Australia via Arizona) as she said how much she liked them. So that's two converts so far this year, it's just a shame that most everyone else I know complains about being made to 'suffer' them I wish I could go sledging, snow never seems to hang around in London If anyone's interested (I'm sure there are a few of you, judging by the contents of the tape tree tapes I've heard so far) I've heard that there's going to be a Nick Drake type affair at the 12 bar club in London, that's the good news, the bad news is that it's not until June, ho hum. That's it, I'm done, sorry to bore you I'll just get back to my number crunching Ta Ta Chris The more it snows tiddley-pom +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peter.ramsdale at xxx.com Tue Jan 18 12:44:21 2000 From: peter.ramsdale at xxx.com (Pete Ramsdale) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:44:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Superstars (Cue music, Brian Jacks doing squat thrusts, etc., etc.....) Message-ID: <38846025.232E71BB@wdr.com> Ah, sporting prowess. Now that was my bag at school. Loved it. Every frozen, rain-sodden, mud-splattered minute of it. Honest. My two main memories are, and forever will be, the following: a) being about three miles into a cross-country run, covered in all sorts of shit, wet through (having very probably fallen into the canal at least once), and feeling totally, utterly and abjectly pissed off with the whole shebang, when I bumped into a maths teacher who started singing "Smile, though your heart is breaking". Unfortunately I didn't at that point have the energy to kick him repeatedly in the head. b) being told in my first ever rugby game to "go and mind the goals" for a conversion attempt. I duly went, stood there, and performed a quite incredible diving save to tip it over the bar. Needless to say, I got seven shades of shit kicked out of me. I learnt the rules pretty quickly after that. No, sport was never my thing either. Although I can't actually remember being picked last for anything. I always tended to be in the group marked "distinctly mediocre". B&S content? Yes, I have some, for once. My current prospective relationship hangs on whether the girl in question likes Photo Jenny. Oh, erm, and the other seventeen songs I put on the compilation for her. But mainly Photo Jenny, since I made it the title track. Well, she's called Jen, and......oh. You don't actually want to know. Fair enough, I suppose. But it *was* B&S content, so I thought I'd include it. I'll let you know if she's a convert. Well, that's about it. Back once again with the ill behaviour with the ill behaviour with the ill behaviour with the ill behaviour with the ill behaviour with the urrrrr eeeeee urrrrr oooooooh*, lol p xx. * Sorry. I just thought I'd continue my current trend of signing off with bits from crap dance tracks. I won't do it again. -- -----------------------------*||*-------------------------------- Ode from London, SE8 "In the midst of life, we are in Deptford." - Martin Newell, Poet. Pete Ramsdale - Unix Systems Administration, Warburg Dillon Read Phone: 0171 568 3836 -----------------------------*||*-------------------------------- This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ill9mc at xxx.com Tue Jan 18 12:58:37 2000 From: ill9mc at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?maureen=20cassera?=) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 04:58:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20000118125837.28976.qmail@web1611.mail.yahoo.com> Hello List! I was at Stansted Airport on Saturday to fly back home to Italy for a holiday. I went for last minute shopping in Boots and I found a lovely badge... A tiger drinking milk!!!Isn't it nice in a sinister world? My little cousin said it's not a tiger but a cat, anyway...we're always talking about feline! I suggest all of you to get one, also because your shiny pound coin will go in charity in favour of the research to combact osteoporosis. Love, Maureen PS Bergamo says CIAO to Juicy-Lucy! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ECSAMENZ at xxx.uk Tue Jan 18 13:15:25 2000 From: ECSAMENZ at xxx.uk (Menzies Amy) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:15:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: b&s a-z + french pop Message-ID: <61DE2ADF138DD3118E2700062B00055AA8FFF1@exch-student.livjm.ac.uk> Andrea wrote: >the only two artists/groups i know that are french are serge >gainsbourg and stereolab, >so suggestions, etc are quite welcome (please!). all i ask is >that they be >worth listening to. >ok. Air, Jaques Dutronc, Franceoise Hardy...there's loads of stuff out there. Worth a listen is 'Pop Romantique' (modern covers of older french pop stuff) and 'Swinging Mademoiselle' (great french girl pop). Hope that's a little help. Amy xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Tue Jan 18 13:39:17 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 05:39:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: idle ramblings.... Message-ID: <20000118133917.14036.qmail@web607.mail.yahoo.com> here I am again. Still flu ridden, and got exams this week to add to the pressure. Who wants to be a student? not me, I want a job and a cat, although I'm allergic to cats, and money to spend and all the other nice things like no exams. played a geography game with my flatmates last night, cos we were that bored. Still, at least it wasn't a maths game. homesick. just miss hills and a horizon that goes up and down rather than just straight across for miles and miles. And I miss Edinburgh (but don't tell I told you) cos I miss all those mad wee shops and things where I can stroll around for days on end. I also miss Scottish accents. Even the schemie ones. So lets see...on a positive note...? hmm. Had a lovely weekend with the man I love, we didn't do much, but we just spent quality time together and thats whats important. And it felt so lovely and warm and cosy and I can't wait for my exams to be over so we can do it again. It was just the most stress free couple of days I've had sionce the millenium began. Although some people reckon it won't start til next year.....and some people reckon it was in 1995..... slowly finding inspiration as the days pass... but only for writing short stories, rather than for university degrees. Sometimes I wish I had managed to make it onto a creative writing course or something rather than a language degree, which I'm only doing because of the job prospects. Not too fussed about what sort of degree I get, as long as I pass. Now all I need is inspiration to pass my exams. I got a nice hat though which I like, its grey and keeps my head warm and makes my hair look okay when it sticks out from underneath it. I think I got a good haircut the other day. I can go bare faced and still feel okay. my computer moves too slowly today and won't let me on jeepster chat which irritates me a little bit. Can't wait for spring time. I like spring time. better than summer. summer never lives up to its expectations. and winter is too bleak. my lava lamp has died and I only got it for christmas. oh dear. is there a lava lamp doctor in the house? I don't like january, it reminds me of things I haven't done yet that I intended to do, and I get this burst of creative inspiration that leads to frustration when three o clock in the morning doesn't seem to be the time to execute new plans. Theres a pretty girl sitting at the desk opposite me. pretty in pink with blonde hair and blue eyes. She looks dull. okay dokey, cherrypips to one and all. ===== visit the idle site:www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/5117 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.alder at xxx.uk Tue Jan 18 13:48:06 2000 From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:48:06 -0000 Subject: Sinister: L'amour est bleu Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F3352C5D@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk> Cor blimey guvner, is it really over a month since I posted larst? Well, I don't know about you, but I'm in the mood for some headings: BAD WEEK This week, I have eaten one tub of Haagen Dazs Cookies 'n' Cream and one tub of Haagen Dazs Baileys (they were 2 for 1 in Sainsbury's - how could I refuse such an offer?), told a BIG FAT LIE to Ben Fernyhough about the tape tree (soz mate), let my social graces go in a big way by forgetting to call the people who were meant to be coming round to watch my tube video (soz girlies) and spent a WHOLE HOUR working out the phone bill for our house, only to find that if I'd divided it by four, I would have come up with more or less the same results. SUPERGRAN My Nanna and Grandad came over for tea and birthday cake on Sunday (Grandad was 81). Nanna told us about her friend Reg. "He's very keen on his organ" - we sniggered quietly. "He plays on it every day" - Mum lost control and snorted. Dad said "He'll go blind" - even Grandad had a quiet smirk. Nanna thought we were taking the piss and got upset. FRENCH DISKO May I recommend Claudine Longet to all those francophile seekers of musique? She's lovely, especially on L'amour est bleu (I believe this was also done by the Magnetic Fields, trivia fans). SPURIOUS CLAIMS, SCURRILOUS RUMOUR AND HOT GOSSIP A friend of a friend went to a Smiths night at the Star and Garter in Manchester. Andy Rourke was DJing, but being the Huge Smiths Fan she is, she decided to get pissed and slag him off to the other DJ. "He's a bunch of crap, a sack of arse" she slurred (note: I am paraphrasing slightly), "he could never be as great as Morrissey". Oh, and by the way, she said, the other DJ was the singer out of Belle and Sebastian - apparently he's very quiet and doesn't go out much. Anyone care to shed some light on this story? I am quite prepared for it to be LIES, ALL LIES, but I'd be interested to hear... REMINGTON TRIMMERS AT THE READY Am I the only one to notice monsieur Murdoch's fluffy blond nasal hair on those pseudo-seventies-top-of-the-pops-style-up-your-nose-camera-shots (hyphen heaven!) on the Tube? Also, had I been one of those oh-so-lucky-audience-members (ain't no stoppin' me now), I would have tried my very hardest to catch Isobel's attention and make her laugh during the whistley bit. Cos you can't whistle at the same time as laugh, now, can you? TRACK & FIELD Anybody from the London area going on Friday? Sorry - not a great post. I'm out of practice, y'see. Juicy Lucy =================================================== This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. -- MCI WorldCom Year 2000 information http://www.wcom.co.uk/2000 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boy_afraid at xxx.com Tue Jan 18 11:08:04 2000 From: boy_afraid at xxx.com (Charles Byron) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:08:04 ART Subject: Sinister: b&s a-z + french pop Message-ID: <20000118140804.19287.qmail@hotmail.com> I think that I�ve made this suggestion before, but since you�re asking, I�d recommend Autour De Lucie�s 2 LP�s. 1996�s debut (Autour De Lucie) is definitely in my Top Ten Albums ever made, and their second album (1998�s Immobile)is great too. Plus, I�ve been told by a French Sinister that they�re big fans of B&S too. If you like, you can see two videos and check some information at http://rollingstone.tunes.com/sections/artists/text/artistgen.asp?afl=&LookUpString=2527 Hope you enjoy them. Stay handsome, Charles Byron Andrea wrote: >the only two artists/groups i know that are french are serge >gainsbourg and stereolab, >so suggestions, etc are quite welcome (please!). all i ask is >that they be >worth listening to. >ok. and Amy said: Air, Jaques Dutronc, Franceoise Hardy...there's loads of stuff out there. Worth a listen is 'Pop Romantique' (modern covers of older french pop stuff)and 'Swinging Mademoiselle' (great french girl pop). ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Jan 18 14:25:20 2000 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:25:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: l'amour ,selon JL, serait orange In-Reply-To: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F3352C5D@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk> Message-ID: Cher-lot: Even when Juicy Lucy branded her own message as uninspired it seemed as refreshing and informing as old ones in salad days.Her nickname always makes me think of a smiling and friendly orange, sorry Lucy,but I love oranges not because I am quasi-one or I come from orange-land,I just love them and exactly today I messed all around(carpet,desk...)in our 'computing unit' when eating a specially juicy,big and nice one.My workmate was looking at me out of the corner of his eye with an astounded expression when I ended eating it above the dustbin not to soil any other clean surface in the surroundings.A surreal fruit experience. I had never heard before of Claudine-french-singer,so I will take note about her.Suggesting something more contemporary : Louis Philippe,Dominique A,Diabologum,Pascal Comelade. Spain is rivalring with Thailand to be the focus of international attention,no doubt: Mr Marbella,( ex-president of Atletico de Madrid for our footie fans)one of our national Icons,greasy,huge,fond of gold chains,open shirts showing hairy chest,and a wife who looks like a second-rate vedette just imported from Las Vegas,managed to make it into the headlines last weekend and today's The Guardian frontpage cares about Southern Spaniards heads, who seemed to be in risk, after 15 giant ice-balls falling on the area. Mr Jesus Gil/Marbella is famous to contribute a new word to our dictionary which described him perfectly (even when it was not designed to it):Ostentoreo.It is a mix of flamboyant and stentorian.Stemboyant,let's say.Great word. Maybe it should be included in some song,like 'clutch'.There are so many words who would like to be included in a song.And names.It is unfair all songs are about people called Jenny,Lisa,and Judy,a bit of imagination,please.All the Cressidas and Antheas and Nigellas also have a right... On Fiona's taxis,my life in Madrid is much less B&Sesque than here,according to public transport.Only in half-size cities you use buses all the time,so they must be the demographic agglomeration more B&S.And I am all bereaved on your late T-Shirt, my mum did exactly the same with the first T-Shirt sporting a band's logo or something ever (MADCHESTER , Happy Mondays, 1990)and since then,I am not very happy about getting bands t-shirts.All this people around who have killed some pet must understand this feeling,you know how horrible it would be if it happenned again. This theory should explain why I have not got a Study-at-Stow one yet,even when in this case, my not very well endowed anatomy would allow me to wear nearly an S size,and felt compensated somehow for years of ignominy at PE : my pervert (female) teacher was always blaming me for other people's talking,laziness and disruption.It was generally suspected that it had to do with her general tendency to big-breasted pubescent girls, among which I never was... Stop making nonsense and go back to matrices and more matrices. xxx A. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From windisch24 at xxx.com Tue Jan 18 15:05:53 2000 From: windisch24 at xxx.com (mike windisch) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 07:05:53 PST Subject: Sinister: let's hear it for the sin in sinister Message-ID: <20000118150553.88762.qmail@hotmail.com> Morning all, just thought that I would chime in on this gym class talk before the thread gets stale: I remeber being picked last a few times out on the kickball court, and while it did contribute to some self-esteem shrinkage it also cause my skin to grow somewhat thicker. Other fond memories of elementary school gym class were those little four-wheeled scooter thingies that you would kneel on and careen around the basketball court on and smash into each other with. Fun, fun. We also had this one teacher who would bring us outside for a healthy game of bombardment with about 10 of those rubber kickball things. The best part was that he would play on one of the sides and vent his teacherly frustrations on the discipline problems in our class by knocking the shit out of them with some grown-manly hurls of the balls. I found this somewhat odd but really funny at the time. Now I find sidesplittingly hillarious and can only image the sensation of satisfaction Mr. Sahugnessy had when he knocked the legs out from under Scott Sawyer's evil minion body and sent him sprawling on the floor. The kid deserved it and the teach delivered. What a guy. Maybe these gym-related experiences led to my lifelong participation in the foremost marginalized-weirdo-cum-artist sport, skateboarding. What with the speed, the spills and the freedom of floating and schralping any line that I can conceive and physically acheive, I'm to this day reaping rewards that those heartless playground captains could never bully themselves into. (karmicly enough, after I penned this self-inflating ode to my raison d'etre, I braved the went to the skatepark and promptly kilt myself while rolling into the bowl on my first run.) ----------- On another front I'd like to send out a swarthy wink to that iris lass for actually writing something that could be characterized as sinister on the list for once. "she reminds me of a penguin with a unibrow. she's a nice enough broad i suppose." iris also quoted the stones, who have been enjoying an epic run as the monopolizers of my record player for some weeks now. I'd just love to hear Stu and Belle and the boys do a rendition of "heart of stone", but I doubt they ever will, because frankly they lack the balls. Whilest i'm stirring up controversy with such sacriligeous opinions as b&s being the finest purveyors of wuss-warble to ever strum twitch and twitter, I may as well go whole hog and ask (from that gloriously insulated perspective of american ignorance) what the appeal of this twee thing is. Is it a sense of gentile refinement and cultivated taste? Is it softness, sweet smells and kisses that last for hours? Or is it a bunch of image only pantywaists wearing prop glasses, smoking imported cigarettes and making a pretensious spectacle of themselves? educate me, please. toodles, and if anyone else going to guided by voices in beantown tonite and wishes to hoist a few, drop me a line. mike windisch ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bertrand.Caron at xxx.se Tue Jan 18 15:51:20 2000 From: Bertrand.Caron at xxx.se (Bertrand Caron) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:51:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: b&s a-z + french pop References: <20000117221227.4561.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <38848BF8.87DEE410@uab.ericsson.se> Hello, I am french and I would recommend as french pop: - Miossec, his first album Boire is the thing to begin with I think - Dominic A, You could focus on "la memoire neuve" (Lithium records) (doesn't mean it is the best one but the easiest to find I guess) - Philippe Katerine - Autour de lucie (Label: Le village vert) - Superflux (on Lithium I think) And loads of others but if you can find those you are allready lucky and they are doing really great french pop songs and definitly worth listening to! > i was thinking of doing another show about pop music sung in french. > doesn't have > to be specifically from france, since there are all those other french > speaking countries. it > would be interesting to get groups that are from canada and africa, as well > as france. > doesn't have to be new either, since there are certainly some interesting > things from the > past. the only two artists/groups i know that are french are serge > gainsbourg and stereolab, > so suggestions, etc are quite welcome (please!). all i ask is that they be > worth listening to. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayhol3 at xxx.com Tue Jan 18 16:03:02 2000 From: jayhol3 at xxx.com (Jamie Holman) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:03:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Track and Field Gigs Message-ID: <20000118160302.22788.qmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, I rarely come out but read your posts with interest...... This week is the winter sprinter gigs at the betsey trotwood in holborn organised by those track and fielders. Wednesday is ace as its kicker miss mend and gives you all the chance of another rare glimpse of the mighty tompaulin. shine up yr twee gear and saunter on down. ( we'll be on the roof with machine guns. ) I thank you...Mick Travis ( Crusader. ) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Tue Jan 18 15:07:06 2000 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:07:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: With just a dab of Daddies sauce Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000118150706.0073a1b0@ampsys.co.uk> Hello all, I hope I find you all in fine fettle, with a fully functional kettle and more than a small dose of cheeky grin-itis. Did anyone else have to read that book Grinny at school? The moral of the tale being that aliens don't like being looked at slightly to the left of right of their eyes. Which I have to admit is a moral I've been struggling to integrate into my average day. Aren't our American brethren subject to regular extra terresterial kidnapping experiences? So there's a tip for you maybe. Or maybe I watch too much telly. Is it just me or didn't we do French pop recently? I mean wasn't it's finest pop gems heralded in these recent archives not that we all formed a band and sang en francais. Though I am tempted to burst into song and deliver a bit of "Je m'appelle Helene, je suis une fille tout les autres" every now and again. Must be something in the water. As for Juicy Loo's mentioning of Mad Murdoch's nasal hair. I think he's a very sensible lad and an example to us all, as a bushy cluster of nasal hair really does help keep out germs and bacteria. Maybe this flu epidemic could have been prevented with a few nasal wigs. Much more constructive than Miss Starry's willy wigs. Keep a healthy bush up your nose... you know it's good for you. Mark C said: >(I was 13 when the above happened, so don't judge me too harshly. Or do, if >you saw my horror tackle that left Martin's leg broken in 15 places last >summer. Almost) Being on the recieving end of a vivacious Mark really wasn't as pleasureable as it sounds. My T-shirt was even soiled by the incident, which was a bit much. Unfortunately, though Mark can tackle like Chopper Harris, but has the athleticism of Rolf Harris and the footballing ability of Anita Harris. But the boys a trier and I'm sure he is indeed a bit of a wiz at Badminton. I'm afraid that I also didn't fit the sporting inadequate type during my educational years. It's a shame that like Paul Gascoigne these talents have never been realised due to the twin towers of distraction, namely alcohol and cornish pasties. Ho hum... Actually, while I'm encumbered with a dose of relevance I also found Leyla and Sarah's tag team post much fun the other day. Perhaps it could initiate a whole series of dream tagteam match up posts. Or maybe I should get out more. Te ra, Martin ear confection recordings (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cdarwin at xxx.uk Tue Jan 18 22:09:24 2000 From: cdarwin at xxx.uk (Miss Cressida Jane Darwin) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:09:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: sinister song names Message-ID: Arantxa Sanz said: "There are so many words who would like to be included in a song.And names.It is unfair all songs are about people called Jenny,Lisa,and Judy,a bit of imagination,please.All the Cressidas and Antheas and Nigellas also have a right..." thankyou! this is so true, but i concede that my name is not the easiest to find rhymes for. perhaps we should ask the largely silent these days, still getting over Christmas thanks very much, poetry parrot. it is no problem getting my name on a t-shirt or a pen. unfortunately the scenario where i have actually wanted either of these items has yet to occur. now a song would be something to treasure. although imagine if it was dire. i know of people who are still haunted by shakin' stevens singing "julie". and therapy is of course very expensive. b&s content - i ordered a bus t-shirt, but cunningly avoided the sizing problem by having it nicked by an evil postman (now there's a vision) before it got anywhere near my front door. i am thinking there may be a black market for such desirable items as these and various t-shirt rings may be in operation. hmm. be careful out there sinisterees. cress ----------------------------------- Cressida Darwin c.darwin at sghms.ac.uk St. Georges Hospital Medical School Opinions expressed those of the author and not the institution +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erica.macarthur at xxx.com Tue Jan 18 17:58:12 2000 From: erica.macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:58:12 -0000 Subject: No subject References: Message-ID: <002901bf61dd$b5e95e20$e2b001d5@default> Smart girls and pretty boys, well hello there. I'm sorry about my last post, but I really have a thing for dramatic entrances. It's terrible really, we're supposed to be humble and twee and witty and clever, not resort to stunts. Stuart Murdoch et all, they're not really Flamboyant, are they? They write nice pop tunes and everything, but wouldn't it be great if they all wore matching outfits one time, like Steps. They could incorperate some shuffle-y style dance moves in too - it would be great! Isobel could colour co-ordinate her headscarf with her knee length skirt. I'm against the box set. Like Damon says - say no kids! I got send an empty box from the Pet Shop Boys last week - if I buy all three of the versions of their new single, I can fill the box. What a clever marketing ploy. Maybe I should fill the box up with something else and send it back. Snotty tissues, perhaps.. Here's the paragraph where I bring you some very late gossip from Tigermilking. May I give props to the boy Sam for dancing on the stage to Britney Spears with me, and encourage anyone to cast dissaproving eyes onto one Stevie Trousers, who managed about FIVE SECONDS before jumping back onto the floor. I forced Alistair to sit on my knee at one point, and was suprisingly light as a feather. Poor boy, thats what you get when you offer a modern girl a seat. Heres the paragraph where I say what I'm up to at the moment. A boy said something along the lines of "va va voom! mwah!" in my direction today, in a sarcastic manner. I turned round to look, slightly miffed at this public display of mockery, when he said "suck my cock". Ah, lovely. I'd like to thrill you with a new campaign against the townies of Hertford, but aside from a pair of Space Age barbarella style white boots, I'm really not putting up so much of a fight these days. I'm a bit bored of being me too, so I tend to spend entire days inside my head picturing the set of the stage I'm going to impress people on once I run away to New York and dance on the streets wearing gold shoes. Oh no, that's Fame, isn't it? > Hannah does truly look like a doll in her sinister picture. Whoever took > it or stylized it was quite clever. The eyelashes remind me of dolls > whose eyes open when you sit them up to reveal a glassy blue stare. It's > a bit eerie. I took that picture, but it hasn't been messed about with one bit. This is because Hannah does actually look like a doll. And thats because she is actually a doll. Yes, it's true, I don't have a best friend, meerly a porcelin companion. I think she's got the same quality people used to credit Nick Drake with - it's as if her skin is see-through, it's so clear and white. There are more of my picture-efforts in The Magic Launderette - a continuing series, which can be found in the House of Scarlet which is linked at the bottom of the page. >my friend diana is >trying to convince me that salma hayek is 'sexy' it's not working I don't >think girls with busty tops and plated teeth are all that attractive. i think >girls like kate moss are cute. Kate Moss is the sort of girl that just shouldn't exist. It's not fair for one person to be quite that beautiful. Mind you, I object to boys who discriminate against girls of an ample bust. I mean it's just not fair, we've had to spend our early teens wearing Industrial Bras which bring the word 'scaffolding' to mind, suffer contant boob jokes from fifteen year old boys, blush in the 'minimiser' section of Marks and Spencers, who, by the way, are useless when it comes to that sort of thing - they believe that for a brassires to be both big and glamourous, they have to made entirely out of lace and satin in suggestive colours (anything other than white, basically) and have little bows on the straps. What next? bells? Perhaps we should be greatful that women arent still wearing those pointy crossover contraptions as was the style of the 50s/60s. They'd have someones eye out! anyway, nothing of any value has no ending so they say. Nice to be back, Erica x The house of Scarlet in a polka dot dress and The Magic Launderette http://www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Tue Jan 18 19:30:42 2000 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:30:42 BST Subject: Sinister: blapps Message-ID: <82E1C9E444F@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> evenin' campers, i know, i know, two in two days, but what can i say, i've missed you so much and i need some kind of sustitute for real live friends. i desperately want to add my comments to the pe / gym discussion, but it seems that every single person who's posted recently has written something about these experiences and (i say this tentatively) i'm getting a little bored. despite it being the 18th already, it's only in the last few days that it's dawned on me what the real millennium disaster is going to be. of course the world wasn't going to end at the very moment the clock struck midnight, how would we work out the time differences? but what is going to happen is that gradually, over the next ouple of years everything is crisis point. i can't be the only person who's noticed the number of ships lost at sea, oil disasters, etc. there's been lately. no really well if this doesn't happen, my other prediction is that the future of rock 'N' roll will come from somewhere in eastern europe. i'm not sure who or where exactly, but you mark my words... when i'm writing emails i like to pause and stare around the room every so often, i've doen that a lot this evening and the girl sitting next to me keeps giving me filthy looks every time i look in her direction. as if i can even see her screen without my glasses on, not that i wear glasses you understand, i'm not a glasses person. the bitch deserves blapps. oh no! i just realised what i typed and who i'm sending it to, please don't take offence, it's just that my mother has refused to pay for my contact lenses any longer and glasses just don't suit me. B-) you'll all be pleased to know that during the course of my day i've managed to spectacularly fail a calculus exam, but i wrote a storming essay for literature in history, so i've had peaks and troughs. why did i do a joint course??? never mind i'll just have to give it all up, head for the bright lights and become a media whore. fabulous. enough already, if i was reading this i'd have scrolled down long before now. see you later my sinistereenie buddies, stay beautiful, fiona somebody answer the goddam phone +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Tue Jan 18 20:39:51 2000 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:39:51 EST Subject: Sinister: A grate adventure Message-ID: Hello all, The other day I went on a grate adventure. So, I packed a bag with a snack, and a book, and bunty. Then my mum made me take a mobile phone in case someone tried to kill me I had a red dress on with a red jumper which made me feel more special than people in Kappa tracksuits. First of all, i met a dog, and gave it some crisps. So my snack was gone. Then I went to the swing park, and no one was there, so I had a go on the swings and sat and read Bunty. Then I thought that I might go in for my friend, Helen. So I went in for her, and she came with me. So we went to the Playschool type place near the park, and had a game of tig in the school grounds. Then we walked to the underpass, and under the motorway, and climbed until we got to a golf course, So we found a gap in the barbed wire and went in. There was no one there. I was running about for freedom's sake when I reaslised that I'd just trampled all the turf that was waiting to be laid. So we ran back down the bit we'd climbed. But on the way down we found a golf club so we went back to stick it in the sand pit, and I found a rake there. So I wrote JEN! in big massive letters on the sand, and had a sword fight with helen with broken bits of ice. Then we came to the road and walked almost all the way to blantyre until we realised that it was getting dark, so we walked back home, and we were singing, and I was pretending to talk to someone on my mum's mobile phone, when we passed a group of boys, but I was saying really weird things really loudly like, "Well, you're not supposed to plant trees head first you silly chicken". Then I got home and my mum said, "ooh, you've got a real glow, where have you been?" so I told her all about my grate adventure, but helen only told her mum that she'd been to the village, so maybe my mum just understands grate adventures better. I once got nearly picked first for PE. A girl who hates me was picking her team and she picked me. So at first I didn't come. And then her and her friends were all "Oh go on Sneddon, we think it's a shame that you always got picked last". So I reluctantly got up to go and sit with them, when the whole class including the teacher burst out laughing, and they said, "God's sake, like we'd want you in our team,", and I got picked last anyway. But one day we were doing these endurance tests to see how many runs of the hall you could do, and everyone was saing how i'd drop out after two, and I got so mad that I beat all the girls except one and most of the nboys and nearly had a heart attack, and I was on a high all day. A couple of weeks ago b&s were on chartburn, and I forgot to mention it, so now I am mentioning it. The played a three secong clip of the dirty dream number two video (which was apparantly from Tigermilk according to them) and said something about The boy with the arab strap being a stunning debut. Is it true they're playing in aberdeen on 21st jan, 'cos it said so in evening times? Sorry that this post was so long and a bit crap. Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From js.aurell at xxx.se Tue Jan 18 19:24:41 2000 From: js.aurell at xxx.se (Simon Aurell) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:24:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian in the sun Message-ID: <004b01bf61e9$ad031d80$d85e97d4@brouhaha> I bought some records online a while ago, and if you've ever done that then you know what hell I'm going through. When you've finally decided to buy those records (in my case eight of them, I had some cathing up to do) and have hit the submit button, you go round feeling happy just like you would have if you had bought them in a regular shop, only you won't get that deep feeling of satisfaction putting them onto your cd-shelf - and certainly not the even greater joy of actually listening to them. So then you'll have to wait for like two weeks, without the records you feel like you've already bought, but still unable to buy others knowing you must save money to pay for the ones you're waiting for. Sigh. I discussed with a friend of mine the idea of taking some time off from life for a while and only spend money on records. We came to the conclusion, though, that you need to have a life to get something out of them. Music needs something to relate to to make it worthwhile, and is to be enjoyed in the light of your own experiences (as for Belle and Sebastian, also in the light of candles). I introduced B&S to my saxophone teacher today.. his comment was something like "well, er, it's the kind that makes you happy". Somehow it doesn't sound very positive, more like the only thing he could think of that wasn't a total dismissal. But then again he's not so very P!O!P! is he. By the way - it's really annoying - they don't make guitar strings the way they used to. A week ago I decided I really had to change the d-string, since it was nearly broken. And now it almost is again, the bluddy crap, contrary to the other strings, which have been there for several months. This summer (or spring), I hope, me and some friends will sit in the green, lush park in the middle of the city and play Belle and Sebastian (and maybe some peace songs as well) in the sun, drinking alcohol and laughing. How's that for a way to spend a summer's day? Oh, really, it WILL be heaven. And I nearly forgot - thanks to James, Ian and Jen who all answered some question I posted a while ago. Love, Simon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris.jones at xxx.uk Tue Jan 18 21:15:39 2000 From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:15:39 -0000 Subject: Sinister: More advert songs Message-ID: <200001182125.VAA10261@smtp.saqnet.co.uk> Two requests for titles of advert songs. The one from the Natwest advert with a cartoon dog walking around a cartoon world flying on a cartoon plane and pissing on a cartoon Eiffel Tower. I think the other one is the Fiat advert where there are bubbles rising up past the car all the time. I know it's all a bit vague, but I would love to know what they are. On the T-shirt front, I got the bus one at Christmas and it was a sort of trendy indie skin tight, just perfect, but it was a large, and I'm not a 'large' person standing at 5ft9 and weighing little, so I don't envy anyone bigger than me who has bought one. Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From smiley.rebelmonkey at xxx.net Mon Jan 17 21:25:22 2000 From: smiley.rebelmonkey at xxx.net (Mr Smiley) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:25:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: We love the winter Message-ID: <00c601bf6131$9fec0480$be428cd4@richardstesco.net> Bonjour, Wow!! Two posts! (memo: don't overuse exclamation marks). I'm becoming really prolific now. Somebody told me at school today that Friday the 21st Jan 2000 is the British National Day of Hugging. Apparently, at 12:15 in the p.m. we have to turn to the person on our right, hug them and tell them that you love them and they are a worthwhile person. Now, depending on your level of tweeness, this is great of it makes you want to vomit. The fact that I'm at home at 12:15 on a Friday is neither here nor there. I don't even know if it's true, someone could have just made it up to fulfil his secret fantasy of hugging [insert name of your choice, in case I know any of you]. My weeks have been going quicker, because now, rather than looking forward to the weekend, I dread it more than any other day (even Tuesday). This is because of my job. In case you care, my job involves getting up at 6:30 in the am, walking (or skiing, depending on the level of ice on the pavement/sidewalk) to the smelly train station and getting on a train with smelly people for 45 min, until I get to Sheffield. Once at Sheffield I buy a Melody Maker and sit in the station waiting room for an hour. By then it's about 9:00 in the am. Then I go shopping, or rather I stand in Virgin Megastore because they once played a B&S song and they might just play something other than Eiffel 65. At 9:31 in the am I arrive 1 minute late for work. Work involves phoning up the abusive people of Sheffield and asking them if their papers have been delivered. I feel really guilty. What if I've got a little paperboy fired (the fact that all Sheffield paperboys are arch-criminals is irrelevant). As for the Stars of Track and Field discussion, the best rugby player in the world ever! I quickly learnt the rules. You run away from the ball, and if someone throws it to you for God's sakes get rid off it before 7 people dive on you and stand on your head. Er...that is who you play rugby isn't it? Well, since you've had to listen to my life for far longer than I would bother to read for, I'll be off now. Au Revoir, Mr Smiley +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Okrebecca at xxx.com Tue Jan 18 21:55:33 2000 From: Okrebecca at xxx.com (Okrebecca at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:55:33 EST Subject: Sinister: starbucks anybody? Message-ID: right, so i'm rebecca. hello. irrelevant \but as belle and sebastian seem to spark to mind certain stereotypes of fan genres, er, right..you know what i'm saying? i found it interesting that on both this tuesday and tuesday last in starbucks on my daily post-school java break i heard something from bwtas playing. today it was rollercoaster ride and then three or four songs later, bwtas itself. it was quite sublime, shall we say, not to mention that in the midst of those were contained cibo matto, two elliott smith songs, and rufus wainwright. dig. ~rebecca. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachel at xxx.uk Tue Jan 18 21:47:20 2000 From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:47:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: gormenghast Message-ID: <001d01bf6200$53c366a0$1542883e@preinstalledco> oh wow, did anyone see the first episode of 'gormenghast' last night? wasn't it fantastic? i tried reading the books when i was about 14, and although i enjoyed the descriptions and the language, i didn't have a clue what was actually going on. this was probably due to the fact that i'm an exceptionally lazy reader, i can't tell anymore whether i'm skim reading or not. i normally am. so, this adaption has really helped bring it to life for me, it's brilliant, i'm definitely going to give the books another go. and, oh, johnathan rhys meyers, how gorgeously shifty is he?!! lovin' and leavin' you rachel xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul at xxx.net Tue Jan 18 22:44:46 2000 From: paul at xxx.net (Paul McAllister) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 22:44:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister: fox in the road Message-ID: <00a201bf6205$df102900$a011883e@demon.co.uk> howdy folks time for another of those 3montly postings. well its the new millennium...and its very much like the last one. bit of a let down really. not to worry. first, some tragic news. two nights ago when i was driving home, a fox ran across the road and under the wheels. it must have died instantly, which is something i suppose. at least it wouldn't have been in pain. it really shocked me though, and i was shaking all the way home. it wasnt my fault, but it doesn't stop you feeling really guilty about it. i hope you don't all hate me now... so, tigermilking was last week. i missed out yet again due to the bastard flu thing. thats the second time, too. oh well...next time. well, guess what. i got chatted up at work today. it was somewhat of a first for me. i've never been chatted up in my life before so it was quite surprising. she just started chatting to me while i was getting her cakes and it turned out she was a b&s fan. she then asked for my phone number and said we should meet up again sometime. well, it put a smile on my face for quite a while. just seen some more ATP news....it seems super furry animals are now playing too along with the original line up and mogwai. http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/20000118173534.html for more info. oh well, no direct b&s content, apart from a tenuous link via the sad fox incident. take care paul^ ---------------------------------------------------- Paul McAllister paul at belleandsebastian.org ICQ#21292923 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Tue Jan 18 23:54:21 2000 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:54:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S in unusual places Message-ID: Rebecca's post about hearing B&S in Starbucks reminded me that while Christmas shopping in WH Smith's, Berner's Plaza, the twinkly Christmas music was replaced for three minutes or so by one renegade shop assistant who treated the yuletide throng to 'The Boy With The Arab Strap'. Received wisdom about ambient noise in shops would lead you to believe that at this point I skipped merrily to the counter with my copy of 'The Naked Chef' (it was for my sister, honest). But actually I put the book back on the shelf and popped down to JJB. What was I posting about? Oh yeah, just to remind you that Monica Queen's first ever solo recordings are still residing at http://www.wellcut.com/monicaqueen.htm should any of you want to cock an ear. (If any of you have cocked an ear, firstly ooh that sounds painful, and secondly we'd appreciate it if you would tell us what you think of Monica's songs). "The Belles", as only she calls them, are apparently big fans. One last thing, It's Jo And Danny play the Water Rats, King's Cross, on February 1st. If Low-meets-Kevin Shields sounds like your thing, you'd be advised to go see them. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Wed Jan 19 00:39:58 2000 From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:39:58 -0500 Subject: Sinister: a gorgeous man with a swimmer's build In-Reply-To: <3883A89E.DA8FDDE8@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <200001190037.TAA17033@s1.nassau.cv.net> > 1. Adam Apparatus may inadvertently have discouraged certain "rowdy > girls" from taking part in the sweet delicate pudding that is the body > parts page. Let's please have none of that. Rowdy girls, do with your > body parts as you like. Mr. Apparatus, I'll speak with you in the back > office, please. Please. unfortunately, this was not my intent. i expected some big macho galoot to come up to me and drunkenly sputter, "hey, wash you got 'gaint boobs'n'bums?" i was trying to explain my attraction to a shoulder more than breasts... my intent was not to stop breasts from being posted in the least. by all means, i encourage women to post breasts. especially on telephone poles and walls that say "post no bills". as long as you're not posting bills, i'm happy with it. end of ramble. - adam aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sadandsentimental at xxx.com Wed Jan 19 00:49:31 2000 From: sadandsentimental at xxx.com (Curtis Heath) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:49:31 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Sorry, everyone's entitled to one angry post.. right? Message-ID: Tiago wrote: >unmade bed- it's NOT art and can NEVER be >art, even if there's a whole >art gallery or museum, full of so-called >artists or art critics waving >their hands in ecstasy, praising the slob for >its genious. >roten culture My dear boy... At first I thought your post wouldn't merit a response from me. But I was wrong. Giving the Sinister list a lecture on what IS and IS NOT art, I would assume, would not be a wise thing to do. Are you trying to be the Joseph Goebells of this list? No doubt you've never heard of him, because that would require some actual KNOWLEDGE of art. Goebells was Hitler's sidekick in charge of confiscating the "expressionistic and abstract" works of europe. Hitler, as anyone elementary history class will teach you, was a failed artist. He couldn't grasp abstract ideas. So, many years later, he stole and destroyed everything that he considered "degenerate art." Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's not art. That probably means it IS art. What is Belle and Sebastian to Haydn or Mozart? Out of context, they are nothing. But, to put Sinisterines in the role of those "ecstatic art-critics," it pulls it all back into context- we understand them. We love them. We love that they are the music for us, for OUR time. Take the time to read about everything you don't understand. I'm not calling Tiago a nazi. It was his words, "roten culture" that rang just a bit too familiar in my ear. Art is not beautiful. Art is anything. . LYCOShop is now open. On your mark, get set, SHOP!!! http://shop.lycos.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Wed Jan 19 01:36:40 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:36:40 EST Subject: Sinister: bednobs and broomsticks with added tidbits Message-ID: <5f.6a4e9e.25b66f28@aol.com> hi o. just wanted to comment on a few things from other folks postys. erica wrote: <> well i am far from kate moss body type. but that is neither here nor there. i was merely referring to the fact that if i were to be lesbian i think i would like girls who are kate moss type rather than salma hayek. she's not too sexthy in my opinion. and yes i can make that statement without a hint or thought of sex. thats the luck of being a girl. hehe. i remember my freshman year in HS, i had to drop out of the junior rotc program. its like the miliatry for public hs's. because my chest was too big to button the tops. apparently most military women are flat. d'oh. i'll remember that in my next life. <> and then cressida said: <> try rhyming IRIS???? argh the only thing i can think of offhand is pious.and even then you have to fiddle with the pronunciation to make it work. and i don't want some fella writing me a poeme.... oh iris she's so very pious i can't think of anything else to rhymus.... <> should i be flattered or should i take this with a grain of salt? and or both? well folks once again i'm running on no sleep. so i think i shall hit the hay at seven thirty in the evening. aren't I an exciting chica...haha..sorry no particular b&s content. but in my delirous state i feel the need to bother your perferctly innocent and serene existances. or something like that. ciao bella all. love and squishy things to you all iris desperado. why don't you come to your senses. you've been out riding fences for song long now._the_eagles_ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From v-phongl at xxx.com Wed Jan 19 01:57:11 2000 From: v-phongl at xxx.com (Phong Le (NCS)) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:57:11 -0800 Subject: Sinister: (f)art Message-ID: hello heidegger once wrote that art is truth and compares it to walking in a forest and suddenly finding yourself in the middle of a clearing where the sun breaks through the canopy and warms the ground below. you sit down for a rest and as the sun's rays cover your body, you begin to think. it is this thinking or 'enlightment', that reveals the truth in what we see and feel. as it is in art, this truth can be beautiful or ugly (and can take the form of an unmade bed or a jar of urine). i think that it is important for people to express their opinions but the mail i read from a Curtis Heath dripped with so much condescension and aggression that i wonder if curtis was actually trying to get a point across or to relieve himself from a very bad day... since i have the floor, i would like to say that i think art is all around us but good art makes us linger and think and ultimately reveal more to us. "nature is a language, can anybody read?" good night and thank you. the last of the famous, UNintentional Playboys +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Wed Jan 19 03:28:00 2000 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 22:28:00 EST Subject: Sinister: I've got nine fingers on you! Message-ID: <3d.65cb39.25b68940@aol.com> Hmmm...so what is the deal with ATP? I like the new line-up alot more now that SFA and Sonic Youth are in it but it still doesn't make me as excited as Bowlie did (not that I went to that either, but its the principle or something). If B&S are supposed to be touring throughout the UK during that time period, as they're rumored to be, then perhaps a "suprise guesting" would not be unimaginable. How many Sinistereens are going? I know a good lot of you sold your tickets back when the September gig was shot... I just fixed my record player once and for all so all this week I've been listening to albums without a horrid hiss for the first time. TBWTAS sounds incredible, but I think the B-side to "Beach Boys Today" might be the best thing I've heard in my life. I'd kill for an original mono-LP of Pet Sounds. Speaking of audio research, I also went back over my CD collection this week and listened to all of them with headphones. "The Soft Bulletin" is just crazy! Not only does it sound amazing through your standard stereo, but they manipulated nearly every single track to pan or distort in some way that you can only appreciate with headphones. TBWTAS sounds entirely too cluttered this way, unfortunately. This bring me to a debate just waiting to happen: mono mixes verses stereo mixes. To clear a few things up for those scratching their heads, a mono mix of an album is one where every instrument is panned in the center, so effectively everything comes out of both speakers equally. This is how all the Beach Boys and Phil Spector records were (and are) still done, and the early Beatles records too. Stereo mixes involve certain instruments being shifted to one speaker or headphone depending on how the artists wants it to sound. This is pretty much how all the new mixes are done, with few exceptions. You get a huge, enveloping but sometimes cold sound. I like mono-mixes myself, just because you get that beautiful muddy tone when you do it right. Its not very powerful like the modern records, but it just sounds smoother and warmer to my ears. Ummm...thats about it. I'll be 20 in two days. That sucks cause I was just getting used to 19... Steve C. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Which Paul?" "BLAH!" visit http://callowkids.tripod.com or your crush will hate you forever +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". 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Message-ID: <20000119054838.89821.qmail@hotmail.com> okay, i never write to this list because i feel i haven't anything to say... but i must comment on this. i work at a starbucks and i swear, i was really surprised when i first heard b+s! i didn't know what to think really, i was a little grossed out to tell the truth. i dont want to associated those good songs to my workplace, a sort of yuppie haven.... a sort of 90's mcdonalds... lelah right, so i'm rebecca. hello. irrelevant \but as belle and sebastian seem to spark to mind certain stereotypes of fan genres, er, right..you know what i'm saying? i found it interesting that on both this tuesday and tuesday last in starbucks on my daily post-school java break i heard something from bwtas playing. today it was rollercoaster ride and then three or four songs later, bwtas itself. it was quite sublime, shall we say, not to mention that in the midst of those were contained cibo matto, two elliott smith songs, and rufus wainwright. dig. ~rebecca. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Wed Jan 19 07:59:31 2000 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:59:31 PST Subject: Sinister: Booobies, my life story Message-ID: <20000119075932.12664.qmail@hotmail.com> BOOBS: Ok, Erica McArthur said: >Mind you, I object to boys who discriminate against girls of an ample bust. Ahh, breasts. I could talk for hours about them (and actually I've done that, as some of my female friends could prove). Breasts are funny. Just two round things connected to the chest, and they make guys go absolutely wild. Why? I have no idea. But here's a little something you won't believe: Breasts are a bonus. NOT something you should have, but it helps. Go on, laugh. Does that make you feel better? It's true. At least in my case. I mean, I'm probably in the minority with this one, but I only look at people above their neck. "Eh, what's that idiot talking about? Isn't that obvious?" Fuck no it isn't! I know a few people who wouldn't even look at a girl/woman unless she had a DD- breast/nice ass. Come on men in here, put your hand on the bible and tell me: Would you date the bride of Frankenstein? You'd be surprised how many here wouldn't. Ok, she's not real, but still. And this being the Sinister- tweelist, I think that most of the men here actually DO find the personality more important. But take some pillpopping crazy bodybuilder... No way. Confession: I lied when I said I look for personality. There's this one place... It happens to be so that when I'm in a bar (this is just an example, you guys know that I'm antibooze, don't you? Cheers for that) I never walk around the place looking for "nice" people to talk to. No, it's gotta be some shiny eyed brown-haired Sonya Echobelly-type. Yes, some of you might have quessed it by now: I never talk to the opposite sex in pubs. Strangers, that is, I have no problem talking to a friend of a friend. But ladies and gentlemen here, when you have a group of people who you don't know and you have to pick a person you should go out with... Come on. It's obvious, isn't it. That's why they have that wall on "Blinddate". Oh, I lost it for a minute: The point I'm making is that a) When I'm drunk, I look for beauty b) when I'm sober, I look for personality. Never saw that one coming, did you? JEEPSTERCHAT What a fucking drag. I get logged off all the time. @--->--- Jake le PetitE ps: And toes. Toes are nice. I know, it's a fetish, a bit like rubber. But I know nothing cuter than five eeny weeny bitsy smally toes curled inside a sock made of wool. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Wed Jan 19 08:11:40 2000 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 00:11:40 PST Subject: Sinister: Oh for... Message-ID: <20000119081140.9336.qmail@hotmail.com> Erm... I just read again what I wrote. What a pile of 14-year-old-kid-bitching-about-stuff- crap that was. It looked better in my head that it does on the screen. Oh, forget what I just wrote. Sorry about this. @---<--- Jake le PetitE ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daftpunk at xxx.au Wed Jan 19 09:10:22 2000 From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:10:22 +0800 (WST) Subject: Sinister: long time no chat! plus Help for Bootlegging PLEASE!:) Message-ID: Dear Sinisterinies Hello to you all and a very happy and belated New Year greeting! Hope you guys all had a great and unforgettable New Year's Eve and ushered in the New Year in fine style. Unfortunately *I* was working (as a waiter at the Hyatt hotel). Not only did I have to work from 6 or so in the evening till 3:30 the next day! But I had a headache AND I WASN'T TIPPED:) (I know that sounds greedy but there was all this hype about getting tipped generously in New Year's Eve in previous years and you'd have expected even bigger sums on *this* occasion) Ah well at least I was paid triple my normal amount:) For some peculiar reason unknown to me; Perth, W.A. is turning from cultural desert to be full of great events. Recently have been to see Smog (very lovely and wonderful) and also Cat Power. She (alone) was doing musical accompaniment to the classic silent film, "Passion of Joan of Arc" (a super slow-moving film and never have I seen so many close ups of the wide-open eyes of the lead actress Renee Falconetti but still very intriguing). It was intermittently transcendent- when it worked both music and image gelled together to create a feast for all senses that was very stark and moving. But it was ruined by her apologies for putting on a "crap show" (the audience was very appreciative and WE all thought it was going well but obviously not her) and half-an-hour from the end of the film, she said she was going for a drink of water and never came back. Swindled. Listees who have seen her before, does this happen often? Bootlegged both gigs with my microcassette corder and it turned out quite well. Just yesterday went to see his Dark Majesty himself, Nick Cave sans Bad Seeds but with Warren and Jim from Dirty Three and a bassist. They played at the Belvoir Amphitheatre, a gorgeous natural venue that is a good 45 minutes out of the city but well worth the trip. It has steps made out of grass and wood on which to sit and picnic on and it is surrounded by tall trees which make it seem like some magical reserve hidden in time. Nick Cave played all his most beautiful, heart-breaking and just plain breath-taking songs. Stuff like "Love Letter", "Ship Song", "People Ain't No Good" were so tear-jerking and delicately beautiful that all you could do was swoon. We sat sorta near the back (we arrived late) but still had a pretty good view. There were these two hippie over-the-hill rejects who kept heckling and were forcibly ejected (too late if you ask me) much to the cheers of the crowd. Why do people pay $55 to heckle the band? Someone please answer me! Also bootlegged this gig but it didn't turn out very well at all. The vocals are clear as is the music but there is so much background static/tape hiss (is it because it was outdoors?) that it nearly obscures it. All you bootleggers out there (don't worry I'll be discreet and not reveal your names, PLEASE GIVE ME TIPS ON HOW TO DO A PRETTY GOOD BOOTLEG! I just want a good memento of the great time I had at the gig:) not for any kind of financial reason (i.e. selling these tapes or something) Please tell me ASAP if you can help me out. Obviously the best thing to do would be to get more sophisticated equipment but let's presume I have very little money (a good assumption) ok? How do you record sans tape hiss or how do you get rid of it afterwards-HELP!:) Previously the International Festival of Perth was barren of any kind of really interesting events but this year is chockfull of 'em. First up is The Weir, that highly acclaimed ghostly play which I wanna see. Has any listees seen it and if so, what's it like? Also *gasp* Dot Allison (her out of the heavenly and legendary One Dove whom I intermittently rave about) is coming and I've never been more excited about a gig since Radiohead came in '97. This would be on par with if B&S came, i.e. relatively obscure (though of course B&S are pretty well known) but genius band dares to be different and NOT ignore Perth! How amazing is Dot Allison going to be? I'm just SO EXCITED! WOOHOO! When I first read it, I couldn't believe my eyes. Just said, "ohmigod!" for a full ten minutes and would have let out a little yelp too if I wasn't in a public place. Oh of course Big Day Out is coming (cool summer festival) with the lovely Beth Orton, Chems, Primals, Basement Jaxx- what did I say about a sudden deluge of brilliant things to see and do?:) Anyway have really gotta skedaddle- please if anyone has any advice or info (re: Cat Power, The Weir AND especially bootlegging) please email me privately Ok love ya and leave ya Seeya Kin Woo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erica.macarthur at xxx.com Wed Jan 19 09:37:00 2000 From: erica.macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:37:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sorry, everyone's entitled to one angry post.. right? References: Message-ID: <008101bf6261$0524a2a0$328901d5@default> Dear List, I know I only wrote yesterday, but this is something I simply had to reply to: > >unmade bed- it's NOT art and can NEVER be > >art Well, Tracey Emin's exibition at the Tate, her bed included, has been the only piece of Art to ever move me to tears, and it that isn't Art, well, I don't know what is. I thought I was growing a beard this morning. Peering in the mirror, sans Spectacles, I noticed a little black hair poking out of the side of my chin. JESUS MARY MOTHER OF GOD, I cried, I'm turning into a man! but no. Drama over (sadly), it was just a stray hair that had fallen down when I plucked my eyebrows to nothing again last night. Apparently I'd look like Cliff Jones if I had chin stubble. The my word the mirror would get a good snogging! No I did not just say that. Erica x http://www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordiet at xxx.com Wed Jan 19 11:06:56 2000 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: 19 Jan 2000 03:06:56 -0800 Subject: Sinister: On french pop and other things Message-ID: <20000119110656.5353.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From sleeka_sounds at xxx.com Wed Jan 19 11:18:08 2000 From: sleeka_sounds at xxx.com (Sleeka Sounds) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 03:18:08 PST Subject: Sinister: ring ring. I'm making that phone go ring. Message-ID: <20000119111808.49134.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello, I was reading the nme, apparently ol dirty bastard shouted "sperm donor" at a woman in court. Fancy that. I had to turn off that Gormenghast program, the guy with the long hair really turned my stomach, he's grotty. Like that bastard off the phone advert (not funkyseb) the mobile phone advert, the guy that's stalking that girl then gets to shag her for nothing. That's not on. Talking of which, don't read this if you don't like swearing or if your name is Stephen Pastel. I don't usually swear at all, I'm really quiet and I love little babies and puppies. ==================== A long time ago in a land called Partick there lived a young man called Stephen Pastel. He was the sort of ruffian that would call folk "wank" or "poof" and then batter them. And it wasn't just children, it was grown ups too. He thought he was the hardest cunt in town and whilst punching people he would cry out loud "the hardest cunt in town!", just like that. But he wasn't really the hardest cunt in town, his rich dad was paying everyone behind his back to let him think he was. And, you know, people didn't mind getting punched by him, because it didn't hurt (it actually tickled a wee bit). Now then, one day the circus came to town. Stephen Pastel fucking loves the circus, that is a well known indie fact. He couldn't sleep the night before, his legs where kicking and he kept getting up for glasses of water and looking at the clock and wishing it was circus time. At long last the time arrived, and he sprinted to the big top faster than a speeding rocketship. He ran up to the best seat, punched the woman sitting in it and told her to fuck off. Which of course she did, because she had already been paid by his rich dad. And so the show began...colourful clowns fell about silly, lions roared, the strong man lifted up a really fat woman and a man did a handstand. Stephen Pastel was loving it. Then he saw her - the trapeze girl. She was a beauty and he fell in love with her. After the show he thought to himself "I must meet her, and make her mine". He wandered up to the girls caravan and chapped on the door. "Hello", he said, "this is Stephen Pastel here, hard cunt. I love you, I want to marry you". "Go away", came the girly reply from inside "I'm not interested". Stephen Pastel was at first flabbergasted, then he was raging. "Well, if you don't want me", he shouted, "I'm gonna have to batter you raaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrr". He burst in and punched the girl on the nose. But instead of falling over like people normally did, she just looked at him. "That wasn't sowa at all," she said, "you'we no hawd cunt, you'we soft. Your wich daddy has been pawing people to let you punch them so that you'wd thwink that you'we hard!". Then she pulled of her wig - she wasn't a girl she was a man. In fact she was the Murdoch! "You'we fow it now!", the Murdoch said and proceeded to punch Stephen Pastel until he ran away crying. He was distraught! How could his own dad have done this to him? He wasn't hard, he was soft, in fact he was so soft he could be a qualified librarian. Then and there, he decided to devote the rest of his life to being lovely. And you know, with all the money his rich dad was saving, he bought him the circus, which Stephen got to go to every single night until he died. right up you, Christoffa me - http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~calnd/sleeka/ murdoch - http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~calnd/stuart/stuart.htm ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vibrosheep at xxx.net Wed Jan 19 12:37:57 2000 From: vibrosheep at xxx.net (vibrosheep at xxx.net) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:37:57 Subject: Sinister: Mustn't pause, mustn't hesitate otherwise you get a bash on the head like this...chitchybumding, or like this....chitchybumding. Message-ID: <200001191237.MAA28719@mailhost.vivao.net> Chris Jones : >The one from the Natwest advert with a cartoon dog walking around a >cartoon world flying on a cartoon plane and pissing on a cartoon >Eiffel Tower. That'll be the theme to the Littlest Hobo, 80's K9 pin-up and poor mans Lassie. I heard the Krew at Kiss FM were going to do a remix..C*nts. Rachel Tucker : >i went to see primal scream last night and it was the most >unbelievably fabulous fantastic gig i have EVER been too!!! they >played this tiny venue. The Manor Ground then ? Mark C : >Now here's a *truly* stupid question: NO, here's a truly stupid question, but important none-the-less. What was the frog called in BOD ? Someone, probably GenWes: >I wonder if Leo stopped over for tea with Oon >because I am sure it is her backyard where all those exquisite >scenes were filmed No, but he did stay at the hotel we stayed at in Krabi...that was until he figured out he was famous and could afford to stay wherever the hell he wanted. Oh and he heard I was turning up, and didn't want to be put to shame by the pool in front of his entourage of girlies. Still, I've heard he's hung like a camel, so he probably wore the most bastard tight pair of speedo's ever. Ooooh I almost kept to thread..nah. Adrian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk Wed Jan 19 12:57:35 2000 From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk (Elizabeth Daplyn) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:57:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the creation of a drunken myth Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From sav_one at xxx.com Wed Jan 19 13:53:05 2000 From: sav_one at xxx.com (Darren Savage) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 05:53:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: NatWest ad song Message-ID: <20000119135305.25796.qmail@web122.yahoomail.com> Hello Some chap wanted to know what song is used in the Natwest Hobo ad and as I helped make it, here are the details. The song is called 'Maybe Tomorrow', was written by Randy Sparks and performed by Terry Bush. Sadly it's not going to be released despite efforts by the Sun newspaper and the Big Breakfast. Cheerio then __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Wed Jan 19 13:56:44 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 05:56:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: my magic returns Message-ID: <20000119135644.22269.qmail@web608.mail.yahoo.com> wahay! I found it!!! I never realised it was there! it was though! And now I've found it! but why didn't I find it in September, then I wouldn't be in this pickle of a situation now?? But I've found it...I only hope its not too late to finally use it.... and I hope it works. I sat up all last night practising it again, and getting used to it again. It was quite nice, bit like a first kiss with someone you've fancied for ages, but you've not fancied anyone for a long time and you've been single and celibate for what seems like an age. And its all thanks to Stuart Murdoch, apparently. Ahhh. I feel better now. cherrypips darling sinisterians! Idleberry ===== visit the idle site:www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/5117 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cbrown2 at xxx.com Wed Jan 19 14:09:45 2000 From: cbrown2 at xxx.com (cbrown2 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:09:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I don't know much about art......... Message-ID: <8625686B.004DE934.00@em-stpmta-01.mmm.com> Hello, second post in two days but I wanted to put my two penn'orth into this arty nonsense. I presume the 'rotten culture' reference is made regarding the way that a media tart (a little bit strong I know, but I need a rant, there's a lot of it about) like Jay Joplin can get his chums expensive deals with galleries and even better can get his not-really that talented wife of his a Turner prize nomination. From what I can tell he represents the whole mob who graduated from Goldsmiths at the same time ie Ms Taylor-Wood, Mr Hurst and Mr Hume and is't it a coincedence that they are among the most well known artists in Britain. Is it art or is it the art of good PR? On a B&S note, my boss is out and I'm able to play my CDs on my puter so LLPJ is calming me nicely. Love and Hugs to all Chris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Wed Jan 19 15:02:20 2000 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:02:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Chicago, Toys in the Post, Overall stuff. Message-ID: I went to Chicago this past weekend. It was absolutely the most fun day of my life as I drank, drank some more, bought records, ate thai food, saw a show, hung out with Chicago sinister listees and drank some more. Detailed highlights of the weekend: drank the best pint of guinness this side of the atlantic, picked up the first release on jj heldmann beale's fantastic records label (the Shapiros) as well as the Holiday LP I didn't have and the fabulous "Surprise! Surprise! It's Girlfriendo!" LP, and then saw the Delta 72 with my friend Anthony, and listees Ted and Allie, who are very funny and nice and helped make my weekend fun. Speaking of records, I have been receiving many in the mail. Yesterday I got a package full of Bella Vista 7"s and the Lucksmiths "Good Kind of Nervous" LP. I can't stop playing the song "Under the Rotunda." It's so good. I have also gotten things by Henry's Dress, Ohio, Wussom*Pow, Poundsign, Aisler's Set, and that Sarah records tribute 2x7" that also has the luckies covering a song on it. I just remembered, I saw a copy of Just a Modern Rock Song on 12" while I was in Chicago for $5 but passed since I already had it on CD. Probably the wrong move. Now for other stuff -I was thinking about travelling to NYC for the March Records anniversary show, but I don't know if I can afford it. I want to move the hell out of Cleveland, and have been saving my pennies to do so. But I'm not even close what I think I need and I want to be out of here by June, so NYC may be out. Unless I end up on Who Wants to be a Millionaire of course. -Is it appropriate to cite "unhealthy working environment" as a reason for leaving one's job? Everyone here smokes and my bosses both smoke these heinous cigars that burn your trachea when you get within 25 feet of them. I am going to quit soon because I feel I am underpaid, but that smoking really bothers me. I've had minor respitory problems since I started, and I don't want it getting worse. Also, when you are a computer tech like I am, it's disheartening to see the users ash into the keyboard and then complain when it doesn't work. -THere is absolutely nothing to do in Cleveland. Except eat. The eats are very good. But I picked up the Cleveland Free Times today and once again was disappointed to see that nothing good was coming up. I have to get out of here. -Erica MacArthur should wear ties more often. -I subscribe to the digest so that I can skim the list postings and misread everything that is posted here. Feel free to do the same with my posts, or ignore them all together. -I got a listcrush vote. This boosted my self esteem for about 10 minutes but then made me wonder who did it, because a.) I know who I voted for, and didn't get the "match mail" and b.) I haven't posted to the list in about a month, so I don't exactly know why I am deserving of the honor, especially since my posts (especially this one) tend to be drab and long winded. I know people say the listcrush is childish, but it's still fun and I thank you for your support. -Unimportant fact of the day: AOL, through the Time Warner merger, now owns a pro wrestling federation that loses $10 million dollars, and employs that brilliant American actor TERRY "HULK" HOGAN. Like I said, long winded and drab. I'll stop now. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Andrew_2_Lloyd at xxx.com Wed Jan 19 15:32:03 2000 From: Andrew_2_Lloyd at xxx.com (Andrew_2_Lloyd at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:32:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: monday, tuesday, wacaday Message-ID: <8025686B.0055578C.00@uksmtp01.ha.uk.sbphrd.com> Greetings kids, Just caught the couple of posts mentioning Wacaday. I feel I must admit that I had a wacaday plaster, but somehow lost it! Yes I was a contestant for Mallet's Mallet, not on TV, but at Croydon's Faifield Halls when Timmy took it on tour. I hesitated with my second response and felt the full force of the pink and yellow mallet come crashing down on me. Ouch. I wore the plaster proudly for the rest of the day on my cheek (where i occasionally now where a barcode) I also saw Sooty and Sweep live at the Fairfield Halls in my youth. Oh the joys of childhood B&S - I hope they cover some new ground this album else I fear this may be their "Be here now" did anyone else get to hear that tune "Wheats" by Mazarin. It was released the end of last year, NME single of the week actually. Top, top, top, tune. Can't stop humming it " I must have spent thirty rainy days writing this simple melody to tell you that I'm over you but oh yeah thats right I'm not over over you" Simple, but effective, it's kinda like a hopeful hi-fi version of Waltz#2 by Elliott Smith, but better Anyone of to see the Beta Band Tuesday? Looking forward to seeing Sigur Ros and Mo-ho-bish-o-pi too (I've heard their track "Kate is cool" which is cool. Kinda like Hefner meets SFA) That's all folks, Andi +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Wed Jan 19 15:46:34 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:46:34 EST Subject: Sinister: stick me with a pin and deflate me please. Message-ID: <8a.59a79d.25b7365a@aol.com> hi-o everyone. I reckon your sick of my posts, since i do them so often, but i'm full of hot air, and you have a delete button. so we're even. after i finished my posty for last night as i was going tosleep i thought how large and bulbous i made my ahem: breasts sound, so i would like to take this momment. to say they aren't 'large and bulbous.' I keep digging myself deeper here. I shall shut up. << Jake le PetitE: sigh such a boy aren't we? and I don't mean this in any conotation other than your being such a typical boy type for this one area of things.and i'm not being rude so please? ok.(and i'm fullfilling my role as feminazi) my kitten is soo cute, she was sleeping in the bathroom sink this morning,but we think she's pregnant. did you know they can get pregnant at 6 mos.? my mom was telling me about this, and being that she squirmed out of the garage the other day. we're pretty sure she's been 'had' cats are worse than humans when they reach sexual maturity. it's scarey really. so perhaps we'll have kittens soon. i hope not tho,she's still too much of a baby in my opinion. her name is TC. =trasch can. she eats everything including chupa chups those lolipops from mexico i believe or spain.either way they are of hispanic descent. ok this is utterly mindless and stupid. it's just I have not idea what to do with myself its almost 10 in the morning i don't have to work, i don't have school, and I'M AWAKE! but i'm still to tired to go to some rock climbing.sigh. perhaps i'll surreneder to the boob toob(no pun inteneded) ciao bella iris i envy you. and your ignorance I hear that it's bliss. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Wed Jan 19 15:48:41 2000 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:48:41 +0000 Subject: Sinister: UK listees: Dance to B&S and other indiepop/punk tunes Message-ID: <2C0106E1FE3@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> ** Firstly, in deference to the orders of the list owner I shall only ** post this one advert for Offbeat before Easter Offbeat is back this Friday and for 5 more nights before Easter, and there is a website with Offbeat and general indiepop info' and articles and links to other cool sites. http://www.shef.ac.uk/~offbeat/ OFFBEAT - a real indiepop night....... with late bar, free lollipops and request sheets Sheffield Uni' SU Raynor Lounge (non-students most welcome) 9pm to 1am, £2.50 on the door... FRIDAY 21st JANUARY SATURDAY 5th FEBRUARY (3rd Birthday Party) FRIDAY 18th FEBRUARY FRIDAY 3rd MARCH FRIDAY 17th MARCH (Smiths / Morrissey Special) FRIDAY 7th APRIL Playing......Classic Indie, Punk POP 1977-1997 and C86/C96/new underground of indiepop..... HELEN LOVE-MARINE RESEARCH-BELLE AND SEBASTIAN-DELGADOS PROLAPSE-CHAMELEONS-PASTELS-HEFNER-R.E.M.-SMITHS-PAVEMENT- FALL- BLUR-JAM-HALF MAN HALF BISCUIT-TALULAH GOSH-BIS- ANGELICA-YUMMY FUR-VELOCETTE-I LUDICROUS-JUNE BRIDES SUPER FURRY ANIMALS-ELASTICA-CURVE-URUSEI YATSURA- BOGSHED-TIGER-SNUFF-DEAD KENNEDYS-PWEI-CARTER USM- DISCO PISTOL- COMET GAIN -VELODROME 2000-ANORAK GIRL STEREOLAB-CHINA DRUM-SPARKLEHORSE- BUZZCOCKS-10 BENSON WEDDING PRESENT-ASH-SONIC YOUTH-BODINES-PIXIES-CUD-GENE PRIMAL SCREAM-SHOP ASSISTANTS-FIELD MICE-GUIDED BY VOICES CHILLS-PETER AND THE TEST TUBE BABIES-BLUEBOY-SCARFO. plus many more in the same vein...... for more details/to join the Offbeat mailing list email C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** *** FAX: 0114 2727206 *** *** evening: 0114 2306539 *** "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_leak at xxx.uk Wed Jan 19 15:54:41 2000 From: chris_leak at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?CHRIS=20LEAK?=) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:54:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Art Bah Humbug Message-ID: <20000119155441.25877.qmail@web1304.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Sine you're getting all arty on my ass. Take a look at Andy Goldsworthy's stuff, it's lurvely. That's all. Bless Leaky ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Wed Jan 19 16:32:46 2000 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (Angel Blackwell) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:32:46 EST Subject: Sinister: yes to box sex... Message-ID: <20000119163246.28668.qmail@hotmail.com> I would just like to put my two cents worth in about the box set thingy...the singles here are so expensive. LLPJ was more expensive in some stores than Tigermilking's re-release. These little jewels are only available as imports which are bloody expensive. In Canada, singles are never very popular, not as in UK. We just don't collect them. The only ones worth collecting here are ones from the UK. The N American artists tend to only add remixes to their's here, singles are basically sold at cost. Meanwhile, trashcan sinatras singles, a band that most people haven't heard over here, where a bluddy fortune, at the time. I'm gonna hold off on the art discussion, I'm more into body art than anything, and usually on myself...there are soon to be some pretty additions in more visible places this time. I have a new little dilema which I think is a little sinister. Remember how we aren't supposed to trust anyone over 30??? We've always warned each other...well, I've still got 6 years to worry about this, but my little man just had his 30th on Saturday...but a good thing came outta this, he got a lot of stuff for our apartment, so I kinda scored on all that as well... have a good morning my little sinisterites...no matter how old you are the angel blackwell... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seilsd at xxx.net Wed Jan 19 17:26:58 2000 From: seilsd at xxx.net (Damon Seils) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:26:58 -0500 Subject: Sinister: my angina leaves me panting and in pain References: <20000119163246.28668.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3885F3E0.8E2A43A@earthlink.net> Offlanders, 1. A photo of Angel Blackwell's body art would make Honey very happy. But then Honey's tastes are extreme and rude. Angel, I do not want to see your body art on the Sinister site. I'm not just saying that. Angel, do not send photos of your body art to Honey. Seriously. (1a. Unless you're the Angel who was in chat the other day.) 2. I was just told to send an email to the Executive Committee. I don't actually know what the Executive Committee is, although I suspect it's got something to do with the box set fiasco. I'll keep you informed. 3. On the nature of art. Hmm. Please stop it. 4. Some thoughts on the box set... a. I see the EPs in shops everywhere. They are widely available. b. They are available directly from Jeepster and elsewhere. c. They cost 9 to 10 Canadian dollars, including shipping. d. They cost 6 to 7 American dollars, including shipping. (e. True, that's three Backstreet Boys cassette singles, but...) f. If the EPs are becoming scarce, Jeepster need only make more. g. Sometimes it feels nice to give the finger good and hard to a record company and its marketing ploys. "For the fans." Ha. h. This isn't really all that important. 5. I love you. Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris.jones at xxx.uk Wed Jan 19 20:27:35 2000 From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:27:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Magic Roundabout Message-ID: <200001192037.UAA00515@smtp.saqnet.co.uk> Does anyone else have a thing for nostalgic kids TV? I bought a Magic Roundabout video the other day. Fantastic! You should have seen the other stuff they had though! Flumps, Clangers, Mr. Ben, Bagpuss, Camberwick Green and even Timbuctoo, a series I had forgotten even existed! Wow. I don't know why I wrote this, but I just thought old kids TV would be popular on this list. Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grey7 at xxx.net Wed Jan 19 20:45:53 2000 From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:45:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: "Johnny takes Metaphorazine..." Message-ID: <004f01bf62be$2ecf2960$acd033cf@default> Working with the public is a bit like being nibbled to death by ducks. My heart goes out to any of my Sinister Siblings in the service fields that have any contact with the general public. I like people, I like working with people, but some days...ah, if I get a bit ranty in this post please excuse me. I'm a little high strung today and in a rush. So as my four heroes with mop tops once sang, "pardon me it's just my mind that is confusing things" Rachel was a dear and noticed my Jeff Noon quote. Go out and read anything you can by him. He's brilliant and funny and relevent and has alot of things to say. Even if you don't like science fiction pick up Vurt and just ride the language. It's beautiful stuff and without a doubt he sucks you right in "I don't know that I can define pornograpghy, but I know it when I see it", sayeth a supreme court justice and I must relate this to art, I can't define it but I know it and my opinion is greatly different from anyone else's. Or as Dennis Miller says; "95% of art is shit, 4% of art is shit with an asterick, but that last 1% is what makes us proud to be human". Of course, we are all going to disagree with what that one percent is. Personally, the Mona Lisa bores the piss out of me and on the flip side Christ in a bottle of said piss is even less interesting but that doesn't mean you should think so too. The problem, and I think this might have been more of what tiago was trying to say, is that the art community just like the literature community has become the providence on a small group of people with sticks jammed so very far up their bums they think the world revolves around them. John Updike pans Tom Wolfe's latest novel and then says, actually says, the only reason he reviewed it was so he could piss on it. Well, screw John Updike and all the other members of the New York Literary jack-offs because the homeless street poet or street painter has as much right to be considered an artist as anyone. The problem is that there *is* a group who likes to decide what art is and is not, what literature is and is not, and they are the ones keeping good , relevent artists down. Of course, I don't totally agree with Tiago in that if someone out there is moved by an unmade bed then screw it, it's art. Maybe eveything is art, and maybe this discussion is a bit pointless yes? Moving on... The subject of breasts has popped up (ignore obvious joke...move along, move along) and since I have already bored you on the subject of art I'll give my view of beauty. That crap I spewed about art...just apply it to beauty. Look, there are very, and I mean very few ugly people in the world. I really believe that and not just spouting twee boy rubbish. Some people are more glamorous than others, and that's something different. Some people may be a bit heavy or such, but that something different. Some people may have ugly personalities that color how people see them, but that's something different. So ignore all the crap, you're all pretty, it's just the perceptions that differ. On the subject of beauty, I just watched American Beauty. If you have the chance see this film. It's brilliant. Prolly the best american film of the last year, and prolly longer than that. It says all there is to say about beauty and normalcy and why no one is ordinary. There, I have explained the one true theory of art, revealed the secret of beauty, and now I'll explain the ethical structure of the universe. You see, all you have to know is...oh, damn. I seem to have run out of time :-) With the exception of the movie and book recomendations, don't take a spot of that seriously :-) Cheers!! Be Sinister! Jim "Johnny takes Metaphorazine...and you know that last, exquisite mathematical formula rubbed off the blackboard before the long summer holidays begin? Well, that's him. Speeding language through his veins. Johnny takes Metaphorazine. He's a real dog"- Jeff Noon, Pixel Juice +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Wed Jan 19 21:00:45 2000 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:00:45 -0500 Subject: Sinister: wonderful, if a little misguided In-Reply-To: <200001192037.UAA00515@smtp.saqnet.co.uk> Message-ID: hello to the youth of today i've just gone through and deleted all of my list mail, then i ran across this one. At 8:27 PM +0000 1/19/00, Chris Jones wrote: >Does anyone else have a thing for nostalgic kids TV? I bought a Magic >Roundabout video the other day. Fantastic! You should have seen the other >stuff they had though! Flumps, Clangers, Mr. Ben, Bagpuss, Camberwick Green >and even Timbuctoo, a series I had forgotten even existed! Wow. I don't >know why I wrote this, but I just thought old kids TV would be popular on >this list. not to put him on the spot, but what the hell, i will anyway. i've noticed a lot of emails pertaining to things that have to do with a specific piece of information aimed to people who lived in a time and place that would probably involve about 10% of the list. old kids tv would be popular, but i grew up watching josie and the pussycats and belle and sebastian and jem and the holograms. and also, what's up with all the are you going to the gig tuesday emails? about a year or two ago, honey gave me carte blanche to talk shite, and although i'm sure he regrets it and wants nothing to do with this email, i'm just kind of wondering why so many people seem to want to discuss things pertaining to such a small minority? i mean, why not establish a smaller list or something? i mean, if you want to talk about a show, at least say why you care about the band or maybe make it something about your life or work belle and sebastian into it or something. i'm not perfect, but it seems like a lot of people ceased (and some never did) trying. do you ever get in a ranty mood? what's the deal with the this is art, this isn't art discussions. i mean, an unmade bed goes back to duchamp's fountain. take a 20th century art class and argue it out in there. if you want to argue that belle and sebastian is art, that's fine, but lord-of-the-unmade-beds needn't go after other such helpless home furnishings. that sounds pissy doesn't it? i'll be sorry later, cause i'm afraid that i'm not at all sorry right now. maybe later. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu are we not men? we are magnetic fields. http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ updated 8/5/99 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From David1822 at xxx.com Wed Jan 19 21:03:31 2000 From: David1822 at xxx.com (David Strange Strange) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:03:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Soundtrack To Ourlives Message-ID: <33208630.948315811871.JavaMail.imail@doodle.excite.com> Hello One and All, Wowee Jen's adventure sounded like FUN, i bet she looked adorable all in red, bless 'er. When i was a kid (regression coming up, but don't be disheartend there's some Belle & Sebastian content in here somewhere) i allways used to plan dead exciting adventures, but sadly only ever went on a few. The best one was when me & my best friend in the entire world decided to treck up the nearest hill in search of treasure (my mother had made a treaure map for us to follow and posted it through the letterbox like the Jolly Postman.On the way up this hill we found a cat stuck up a tree, we managed to rescue this cat found it's owner and got £1 for our troubles. We made it up the hill but sadly found no treasure, only an eggcup of sweets when i got home. Thinking back, this story makes me wish we'd had a videocamera when i was a kid so i could watch myself grow up. I'd watch this video and listen to Belle And Sebastian at the same time, because that's why i think they are so special because they're songs are allmost a soundtrack to life, especially childhood. A couple of other quick things :- I had a drawing of mine shown on Wackaday back in 1989 (i was 8), and my brother has a Bluepeter badge that i've tried to seal on many occasoins. Can any Scandanavian listee's provide me a tape of Sigur Ross (mail me privately) and finally French Music i would hertly recommend a Cd called 'French :- La Venus Demolie (debut records 003). thats about it till next time keep adventuring David (big kiss and hugs with Smarties in an egg cup) _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freeworld.excite.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Wed Jan 19 21:31:24 2000 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:31:24 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i'm stupid Message-ID: though i am annoyed, honey's right, this is no discussion for the list. however, feel free to email me at: mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu if you feel the urge to yell or flame or congratulate or want to say anything pertainiing to this whatsoever. xoxo megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu are we not men? we are magnetic fields. http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ updated 8/5/99 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Wed Jan 19 22:18:20 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 22:18:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: i'm stupid In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just to emphasise what's been said a million times in Sinister's illustrious history: discussions of the content OF the list ON the list are considered off-topic. Replies to mails such are Megan's are likely to be of the "why shouldn't we talk about X?" variety, which spawn another ten "because it's boring" variety, which spawn another hundred "stop being a fascist" messages. You see? THIS is the surest way of making the list unreadable to everyone. For newcomers, this might sound a little harsh, but we've been afflicted badly by such discussions and it's nearly destroyed the list in the past. So I'll always act to stop them with my big list hammer. Beware. Grrr :) If you don't like the content of the list, the correct action is: A) Mail the person whose content you don't like and discuss it. Be brave and actually talk TO them, not about them. B) Mail ME and tell me what your view is. I'll always try and reflect what the majority wants for the list: there's no point otherwise. C) Send stuff you consider GOOD CONTENT to the list. Don't tell others what they send is BAD. D) Leave and find a list you like more. I hope you don't do D) though. But just remember it's an option, rather than lambasting anyone with your kinky whip. As Megan says, strictly NO replies to the list about list content please. The only one allowed to talk about list content on the list is me, because I'm mummy. It probably is timely to say that the subject of childrens' programmes when we were young (i.e. over three decades) has been done to DEATH on this list, as has the discussion about whether we should be discussing it. No more please. If you like it, go and look at the archives. They're packed full of it. :) Please do remember the cardinal rule: think if what you're about to post is likely to be of interest to at least half the list: 500 people. Think if YOU'D read 500 mails like your own. I know this mail might not pass the test, shh, stop smirking at the back. Damn I was all set to write a witty and incisive and slightly cheeky me-mail to the list tonight and now look what I've spent my beans on. Don't hate me. Honey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rdossinger at xxx.net Thu Jan 20 00:07:15 2000 From: rdossinger at xxx.net (Reid Dossinger) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:07:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Knock, knock Message-ID: <388651B3.31DA21B0@worldweb.net> Hello-oo?! Oh, Christ! I leave you people alone for five seconds and look at the trouble you get into. Well, anyway, I just thought I'd drop by and scrape off a few pieces of my mind. Hands up if you're going to buy that slip case for the LLPJ Super Deluxx Boxx Set. Yeah, me too. I'm a sucker that way. Does anyone feel that since the Jeepster/Keebler corporate merger that said Brit record company has slid just a teensy tiny bit down the slippery slope of not giving a shit about the fans? What's wrong with simply re-issuing the EP's? But I'm sure you've already been discussing this and I just didn't notice. Are there really still people in the world who like to argue over what is and is not art? Aside from Rudy Giuliani and that otherwise pleasant looking old man who threw white paint on the dunged Virgin Mary, that is. Wow. Are there really still people in the world who argue that it's weird to like breasts just because they're "just two blobs of flesh"? A face is just a bunch of goddamn skin stretched over bone, hair is just a bunch of fucking shit growing out of your skull, but no one questions you up and down when you find a face or some hair attractive. Not that I really care that much. I just wanted to swear pointlessly. Yeah, talk about kickball all you want, but did any of you play matball? It's like kickball, but you play it over the full length of the gym, and the bases are those giant gray gym mats. You can put as many people as can fit on one base, and then you all run at once, which means, of course, the slowest get the shit beat out of them with those damn red rubber balls that still conjure nightmares. I guess it was meant to teach us some sort of survival-of-the-fittest, the-weak-get-eaten-first sort of lesson, but I'm still weak and have yet to be eaten. I watched the Magic Roundabout when I was a kid, putting me in the 10% nation. So anyway, I was just popping by. Please, enjoy this plate of lemon squares and I'll be back again later on. Stay out of trouble, yo. A real 'wait and see' moment, Reid ps. Shouts to Laura Llew, keeping it real for North Cakalaky +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Thu Jan 20 00:38:23 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:38:23 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Empty Boxes (*) Message-ID: <200001191938_MC2-957C-57C3@compuserve.com> Hi Verbose Ones, re the box set (I too read Miss Scarlet's mail as saying "box sex", but perhaps an easy mistake to make, when I was still troubled by the thought of Martin Robinson with a bush up his nose, or was it his nose in a bush?) Anyway, I find myself in the extremely strange position of defending Beepster Universal against accusations of perpetrating a cynical marketing ploy to make us, the, er, kids buy the ep's *again* to get the box set for the sake of completeness: I think I remember a top Jeepster executive writing somewhere recently that you can buy the empty box separately, dead cheap like. Which would mean that you could put the ep's you already own inside it, & then put the box back on a shelf amongst a load of other CD's, & then not really be able to see its there. Which is cool. Just for the sake of balance :) Welcome back Mr Leonard, lovely to hear from you again. Did you watch any Japanese movies on TV over Christmas? Regards, David Moore Chelmsford, UK (*) that won't be anyone on the Sinister list, then :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sadandsentimental at xxx.com Thu Jan 20 00:42:40 2000 From: sadandsentimental at xxx.com (Curtis Heath) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:42:40 -0600 Subject: Sinister: (No Subject) Message-ID: I profusely apologize, especially to Tiago, for my pissy mood. Some things I take too seriously. The need to stir things up was too powerful... to keep it from getting stale in here- These days I delete most posts about quarter of the way through. Why not unsubscribe? Because I love Belle and Sebastian and I crave the old Sinisterlist days where every post was savored for its wit, controversy, and, most of all, pertinent content. But that's no excuse for being rude. . LYCOShop. Thousands of products! One location! http://shop.lycos.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Thu Jan 20 01:57:48 2000 From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:57:48 -0500 Subject: Sinister: simply unacceptable. In-Reply-To: <8a.59a79d.25b7365a@aol.com> Message-ID: <200001200155.UAA26151@s1.nassau.cv.net> as the subject says, i won't stand for this. iris (aka januarythaw) has now created so much confusion about her breast size that no one can get a good mental picture. i move that the bodyparts rule be strictly enforced at this point, so that all of this confusion and tomfoolery may end with a nice closeup of iris's pink bits. or grey bits, if that makes things less embarassing, as it seemed to in kerry's (err... the anonymous party's) case. adjourned, dears. - adam aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeanette at xxx.com Wed Jan 19 21:31:27 2000 From: jeanette at xxx.com (Jeanette) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:31:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: yes to box set... Message-ID: <38862D2E.F13@ktc.com> Hello, y'all. Angel Blackwell wrote: > I have a new little dilema which I think is a little sinister. Remember how > we aren't supposed to trust anyone over 30??? We've always warned each > other...well, I've still got 6 years to worry about this, but my little man > just had his 30th on Saturday... I think I read somewhere that Abbie Hoffman was over 30 when he warned us not to trust anyone over 30. Which means we couldn't trust him, right? Which means maybe we should trust people over 30. But, then again, if he was lying about not being able to trust anyone over 30, that would prove that we couldn't trust him. Which means .... Never mind. This makes my head hurt. By the way, you should never believe a word I say. I'm over 30. Hugs, Jeanette P.S. Did anyone else think Angel was talking about his, ummm, you know, *winky* when he mentioned his "little man"? And what exactly did he have 30 of on Saturday? No, I'm sure none of you thought that, sweet little things that you are .... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Thu Jan 20 05:38:18 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 00:38:18 EST Subject: Sinister: oh my and other such posed astonishments. Message-ID: << i move that the bodyparts rule be strictly enforced at this point, so that all of this confusion and tomfoolery may end with a nice closeup of iris's pink bits. or grey bits, if that makes things less embarassing, as it seemed to in kerry's (err... the anonymous party's) case. adjourned, dears. - adam>> oh god. what rule is this? i've not heard of any such rule.please clue me in as to what is going on si vous plait? I reckon if needed i can dig up a photo somewhere. my friends and I are mad when we are under the influence and therefore do things that when we want to become madam president(and not the presidents madam) will surely incur some sort of trouble. oy vey. :oB (goober smile not breasts.) iris this is my confession: may I be your posession._macy_gray_ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LookingDownward at xxx.com Thu Jan 20 09:08:14 2000 From: LookingDownward at xxx.com (LookingDownward at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 04:08:14 EST Subject: Sinister: Photos of insomniacs, doin' what they do best... Message-ID: <6.1210067.25b82a7e@aol.com> Ahoy-hoy? It's supposed to snow to-morrow. It's cloudy now, but it was a terribly pretty night: cold and clear, a perfect night for a long walk; the moon wasn't quite full yet, but through teary eyes it almost seemed that way. Hmm. I need to work on that spontaneous crying thing. I need to get "hard". Any advice? It's a shame, though, as when I did my last bit of clothes-shopping, I was banking on global warming coming quickly enough (a spurious bit of logic designed to fritter away money on books full of recipes I'll never dare attempt), so I've got nary a bit of wooly clothing suitable for making snow-angels, which I've not done in years. That's as I don't have a lawn, but I'm determined to find a bit of park whiteness to wade through to-morrow morning, to get promptly soaked, and to *never* shake this sniffle I've got. Kickball, for whomever asked, is just like baseball except it's played with a large red rubber or foam ball (or a slightly deflated football if it's handy), and you kick it in lieu of swinging a bat. The way we played it as kids, though, was that instead of needing to use the ball to directly conduct your negative energy to the base-runner, you could lob it at him to get him 'out'. The trouble with that was that the people who, I presume (I've since moved far, far away) turned into the sort of people who made Woodstock '99 such fun, decided that the game was only fun when they were heaving the ball at somebody's head--it didn't matter whose. They would miss more often than not, and the ball would fly into the outfield, and the score would be so high that it wouldn't matter anymore, 'cos it wasn't about who could kick the ball, but who wasn't clever enough to get out of the way. Which was, too often, me. But I grew up to getting spitballs thrown at me, and then, eventually, rocks and lacrosse balls. And that was *before* the assumptive homophobia entered.. I turned on VH-1's "The List" (which, for those of you that aren't familiar with it, is a loosely arranged group of quasi-celebrities from television, film, and music who debated the greatest something-or other in the history of music, but from a quasi-defined, VH-1 friendly standpoint, all to be ultimately subjected to the discerning insight of VH-1 viewers)--tonight they were going over the greatest singer/songwriter; I nearly retched when they axed Ray Davies from the list (not necessarily 'cos I'm a huge Kinks fan, but 'cos he was the most out-of the way of the list besides Barry Manilow... and although I love Mandy and Copa Cabana as much as I'm sure everybody else in the world does, my knowledge of his work is thus confined). There is a point... I was absolutely swooning over this boy on the show in a leather jacket whose name turned out to be Jason Falkland... and I think I read somewhere that he's currently playing guitar in Air's travelling band. I'm sure he must have done something else to merit his stand on the show with two people from Ally McBeal and the Pink Power Ranger, but I dunno what. So, please, I beg of all of you wonderful people, if you've got anything nice to say about him, would you e-mail me it? I've a feeling I'll need some positive opinion to reinforce my memories of what will most likely be a series of relatively naughty dreams about him (which will most likely involve peach-flavoured tea and apple-and-cheese sandwiches consumed from striped cushions while XTC plays in the background..). And I would like to echo Jim's condolences to anybody who's obligated to work with the rabble. Unless of course one's in a such a spot where one's got a deucedly charming old man standing behind oneself, singing into one's ear charming French children's songs, such that one not only forgets the immediate joy of difficult labour in the name of a good cause, but that one also forgets the lingering resentment over having to get up at 5 in the morning over holidays to work for several hours for nothing tangible but the uncomfortable situation of picking at a salad one doesn't want to eat as one tossed it by sticking one's arms in it up to the shoulders (the aversion is expected to be stronger if one has particularly long arms) hours earlier, while constantly reliving the sight and smell of USDA Grade-A beef being taken out of government-issue tins (which, for those who have never experienced it first-hand, is probably a topic for an entirely different post on an assuredly different list). Or, naturally, any equivalent situation. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.borgia at xxx.ca Thu Jan 20 01:21:37 2000 From: alexander.borgia at xxx.ca (Alexander Borgia) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:21:37 -0500 Subject: Sinister: He wishes for the Cloths of Heaven Message-ID: <38866321.63A8F1C@sympatico.ca> [Sounds of Isobel playing cello and Sarah playing violin] Had I the heavens' embroidered cloths, Erwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths, Of light and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet; But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. [harp sounds] [abrupt stop] We interrupt this e-mail to bring you a special feature...... [theme song from 2001 A Space Odyssey - then deep resonant voice] Welcome to Sini-Crush 2000. Your weekly update on the Crush list watch. [cue announcer] I must say there has been an interesting glut of e-mails over the last few days. Crush, crush, crush......smirk. Would you look at some of the campaigning going on? It's shaping up to be a fine race. The most interesting move this week came today from Miss Honey. Now would you look at the e-mail that came today.... honey at missprint.org wrote: > > > The only one allowed to talk about list content on the list is > me, because I'm mummy. > Don't hate me. > Here we see a the exertion of authority which has sent shivers down everyone's spine and inspired one person to cast their vote for Miss Honey. Now we aren't sure and we have our technical team confirming this, but it appears that the vote for Miss Honey had been originally cast for someone else and that vote was changed. What is astonishing i that Miss Honey is using authority as a sexual device to garner the vote. We were originally going to focus on the tie between Laura Llew and another listee, but it appears as though Laura is in first place. We won't mention the other person's name to protect their broken heart. Here we can see why Laura is in first place on the list..... Laura Llew wrote: > 'Meeting all of your Laura Llew needs since 1977' > (is that better Andy?) > > **Laura Llew's Most Cherished Listee of the Week** > This goes to that lovely lad who helped this daft lil' lass find her > way > around the sinister chatroom. He was most patient with me even though > I'm > not very bright and am depriving a village somewhere of an idiot. Much > > thanks to this soul from England who is kind to me even though I am > very > American. This bright boy is... none other than > ..........................Chris_t_opher........................... > > Our analyst have studied these messages and discovered that they contain subliminal messages that will control readers minds and cause them to vote for this person. Notice all of the long phallus shaped letters used in the messages? Yes, and notice how the message contains the sexual innuendo .....Sex sells. And we are seeing it working here in this campaign. Next we see Ellen trying to obtain the sympathy vote. So far it hasn't worked to her advantage. Ellen wrote: > > list-crush votes: i'll never have one. sad but true. (come on, prove > me > wrong..) ; ) And then we see it again as a strategy and it isn't working here either. I think we can safely assume that this strategy is not a good one. ipecac spice wrote: > > sorry for bothering you all with so many posts lately. i have this > secret > hope that if i keep posting eventually someone will give me a list > crush > vote. then again people would probably be more likely to vote for me > if i > agreed to stop posting. i wonder if you get notfied of the crush if > you > vote for yourself...hmmm... [commercial interruption] "I survived Sini-Crush 2000" Get your T-shirts now. We have a limited stock of them so don't delay. One size fits none. Available colours are black with black writing. Prices include shipping and handling... US Dollars: 700.00 UK Pounds: 9.00 CDN Dollars: 24.99 +PST +GST +THIS_ST +THAT_ST +ANOTHER_ST EUROS: However many you send. [end commercial interruption] [cue announcer] In other developments.... We have also seen a mention from Kerry about her breasts, this too doesn't seem to work for garner votes. Perhaps had the photograph been in colour. Erica mentions Kate Moss. Erica also sends in her campaign photo and it is wonderful. It truly is a great image and both the subject and photographer are to be commended. Perhaps a movement should be started to have Erica as the cover for the next B&S release....it could probably look like this..... http://www3.sympatico.ca/alexander.borgia/honey/newrelease.jpg I am sure we will see some voting activities in Erica's corner in the next few days. Particularly if we hear more stories of knee sittings. So far, we haven't seen any strategies that are trying to purchase votes. Can we expect free toasters and 8 piece Joseph and Mary steak knife sets, with potato peelers and Ghinsu razor blades as added bonuses? How about the limited time free t.v. offer like the Craftmatic Adjustable Bed people, which, has been going on for what seems to be my entire life. What will the future bring us in the way of daring campaign strategies? I do think we will see more people insinuating that they "put out." That factor has always seemed to have a positive effect on voting. Well, that's it for this issue of Sini-Crush 2000..... [announcer experiences human spontaneous combustion] Alexander .....I'm not just any cheap internet slut....I'm King of the Cheap Internet Sluts...... [this portion left blank intentionally] [end e-mail] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleeka_sounds at xxx.com Thu Jan 20 10:19:26 2000 From: sleeka_sounds at xxx.com (Sleeka Sounds) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 02:19:26 PST Subject: Sinister: A wee bit of Spit and Polish Message-ID: <20000120101927.66659.qmail@hotmail.com> It's me again, just a quickie. Last night me and Julia went to the 'Spit and Polish' launch, it was really good. Ben Vaughn, Laura Cantrell & Radio Sweethearts played, they were all really brilliant. Stevie Jackson plays bass with Ben Vaughn, and he's growing a huge 'afro' style haircut. I think they're playing Aberdeen tonight and London on the 24th, you should go if you like country music with laptop steel slidey guitar thing. Bumped into big Alisdair Cooke, he was on his way to see Kate Rusby who everyone fancies. I hope it was good Alisdair, I'm sure it will have been. So this morning I had a look at the shoeshine website, and there is an interview with Chip 'my mom was a pisser' Taylor, and he's going on about Belle and Sebastian go and look http://www.shoeshine.co.uk/chip.htm There's a picture of Ali G as he really is in the paper, and he looks like he partakes in box sex. (Talking of which, Belle and Sebastian won a Brit Award and then sort of disappeared. If Jeepster release what they have available to get some sort of income, I reckon it's ok. People's wages need to be paid. And I never thought I'd be defending Jeepster. Whooo scary.) David Moore is our Leader: >Welcome back Mr Leonard, lovely to hear from you again. Did you watch >any Japanese movies on TV over Christmas? Well spotted, I'm getting right into Made in Hong Kong style films. Mr. Vampire is my favourite film in the world today and Biao Yuen, Ching-Ying Lam and big Sammo Hung are becoming my new heroes, since Robin Williamson insists on continually being a thieving hippie gypsy bastard. Did I tell you I went to see the original Incredible String Band reformed for one night only on the 30th December? I was so excited. It cost me about 40 pounds+ because I bought 2 tickets and hoped I could get someone to go with me. I think I was the most excited I've ever been. And it was shite. Really Really Really Really SHITE. There's a number of reasons why, but I just made myself quite cross remembering it. Billy Connelly done a turn though, that was good. cheery, Christopher P.S. In Tune on Friday at the 13th note. PPS Keith is still alive in the 70s, he's made a new web page it's at http://home.freeuk.net/keith.watson/ and I'm sure he'd love it if you signed his guestbook, just love I would If you signed mine. Bye, Chris me - http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~calnd/sleeka/ murdoch - http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~calnd/stuart/stuart.htm ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Thu Jan 20 11:49:24 2000 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?stephen_trouss=E9?=) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:49:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: A pastiche of a bourgeois quiche Message-ID: <01bf633c$65f66f60$0300a8c0@g5-200-3> We suspect you will find the following AP report of interest: >>On New Year's Day, the city-state's 113 McDonald's outlets began a six-week promotion that offers customers a different pair of Hello Kitty characters each week when they purchase an Extra Value Meal. Since then, passionate consumers -- mostly teenagers -- have stormed the chain's outlets, offering to pay as much as S$200-$300 (U.S. $119-$179) for each set of the limited-edition dolls, according to Singapore's the Straits Times. Arguments and fistfights have broken out in the long lines, and on Jan. 13, seven people were injured when a mob pressed against one franchise's plate-glass door and shattered it. McDonald's marketing director Fanny Lai pleaded with Hello Kitty fans to "keep calm" and "follow the directions of our staff on the scene." To make sure they do, the burger chain has brought in police to watch over things -- which means Hello Kitty fanatics had better control themselves. In Singapore, gum chewing and public drunkenness are illegal, caning is a common punishment and possession of narcotics carries a mandatory death sentence.<< We trust you had a good winterlude. Personally, we frolicked like muthas. Returning to Sinister, as to a tatty old comfort blankie, nothing has really changed, has it? PE stories, French pop music, children's tv and heated debates on aesthetic ideologies of the twentieth century. Wheels within wheels. We had a curious experience this week, which we will share with you. On Monday we were at the British Library, a-shmoozin' and a-boozin' with tout la belle monde de la poesie when we bumped into Tom Paulin, the poet and television pundit with the mad, staring eyes. Last night we attended a musical event in a cupboard in London and once again encountered Tom Paulin, who this time was a tuneful boy/girl indiepop band, reputedly the new Belle and Sebastian, with a drummer called Amos and a singer who looked a bit like Alan Ball. Mmmmm. Talking of things that make you go "mmmmmm", we are inescapably reminded of Mr GH Dickie every time a television programme finishes this year with the credits "BBC MM". The amusingly-named "vibrosheep" asked "what was the name of the frog in BOD?". The frog's name was ALBERTO. We just had a look at the In Tune web presence, and it is very commendable. We like the way 70sKeith pledges to play any kind of genre you could name. Could you play some Brazilian Tropicalia for us, please, Mr 70sKeith? We are very desirous of the new Tropicalia box set which we spied in the Rough Trade shop recently, but it costs £60. It is good to see Mr Chris back amongst us with his funny stories. As the man said, he will be performing in London on Friday 28th January at the Poetry Cafe, along with Calmer and The Foxgloves. If you are a completist and would like to read the full details all over again, they will appear all wrapped up in a fancy new box, on the jeeperscreepers web site message board some time today. Alternatively, you can mail us privately and ask us nicely. Stevie Troussé +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vibrosheep at xxx.net Thu Jan 20 13:54:29 2000 From: vibrosheep at xxx.net (vibrosheep at xxx.net) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:54:29 Subject: Sinister: And as if by magic the shopkeeper appeared..... Message-ID: <200001201354.NAA21609@mailhost.vivao.net> At the risk of getting on dear MEGANS TITS (sorry Honey, please don't enforce this one) may I thank everyone for their kind and prompt responses with regards my BOD related question. Indeed it would appear we have NO "Difference of Opinion Jeffrey" and that the frog was called Alberto, though I reckon he played for Brazil in the 1982 world cup finals in the gap behind Zico and Eder. A sort of Denis Bergkamp role. He later signed "on a free" for Celtic at the age of 47, where he scored an amazing 2 goals in 6 second half substitute appearances. Many thanks again to all who responded, you've made a sweet little girls day. Well actually she's 23 and got a fouler mouth than your own Ovine Vibration Unit (OVU). Apologies to Megan, let's put this to bed before Rodney turns up. "Time for bed" said Zebedee... BOINGGGGGG VS(OVU) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Thu Jan 20 14:34:17 2000 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 14:34:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Sinister ist sehr auzgezeichnet, ja, Stefan! Message-ID: <20000120143417.6296.qmail@web1703.mail.yahoo.com> Hello you lot, Erica cried at Tracy Emin? I can understand that. I think I'd cry if I saw her exhibitions as well. Tracy CARES about her art, you know. She was having a right go at the London Today lady who "hadn't seen anything apart from My Bed, and doesn't understand the like, entire spirituality of what I do". If I want spirituality I'll go to the Jesuit retreat. Stunning Arkitechtur. Or I could drink some wodka. Which is pretty bad. Under the influence of wodka and STUFF and also THINGS, I decided that the new rock'n'roll was transcontinental phone calls. I don't recommend STUFF and THINGS mixed with wodka - it makes you dance to Jefferson Airplane. At the time, you smile smugly thinking, "Oh I'm being so ironic", but then in the cold light of day, you realise actions speak louder than works. You try to drown your sorrows in milkshake....and it works! Hurrah! Don't try and make your OWN chocolate milk shakes with tubes of Turkish chocolate from Dostlar and semi-skimmed milk though. For it doesn't work. I'd quite like to debate the nature of Arse, however, I deleted all the posts which gave that as their subject title so whoopsadaisie. Guess I'll stick to this new box set whizz then. I think it boils down to that old doohickey. Do you care about the Feeling or the Money? I think it's despicable - and I'm pondering if the band have the powers to stop it. They should. However, they'll get some money from this whoring as well, I wonder if they'll do anything good with it, or just spend it on Gucci swimming costumes. Isobel. La la la la la la la la la..... Hey! What a fantastic lyric! I think I'll incorporate that into my next Gentle Waves album "Commando Squirrel"! Don't talk to me about blockheads, talk to me about egg mayonnaise. Ihren Kulturkampf das speilgelwurst spazieren gehen. I don't know what I said, but I think it was about spazzing out. Ich like German. Gutbye, Sarah Doohickey xo ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Thu Jan 20 15:12:41 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:12:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Kate Rusby* Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22B7204F@SERVER1> A question - with the exception of our own dear Rachel, can anyone name any Tuckers in indiepop? It's just that I work in children's TV, and part of what I do is review all the submissions that come to us begging to be made into television programmes. This afternoon, I got a book called "Tucker Flips", and it's about three wee scotty dogs called Tucker, Murdoch and Duffy. It's obvious to me that Murdoch is guess who, and Duffy is the Artist Formerly Known as Tintin, but I just can't think who Tucker could be. And in the book, he's the best one. So, basically, it seems the author is commenting on the state of the nation's winsome singer-songwriting types, and dissing our Struan - can anyone confirm who the infidel Tucker could be so I can boycott their terrible music? Jim Gilmer, while ruminating with intelligence and sensitivity on beauty obviously forgot about the nightmare that is Daniella Westbrook. Erm - how many times can Iris mention her boobies without having to send in a pic? Does it work by proxy - if, say, I were to talk about honey's silky, yielding thighs, would honey have to send in the pictures? Or would I have to scour my illicit photo collection in the hope that a sliver of flesh is visible through the waist-high slit in the ye-ye ballgown honey wore with such grace at Bowlie? Is it possible, do you think, to get withdrawal symptoms after not drinking any alcohol for 96 hours? I drink most days, though not usually very much, but this week I've been virtuous and haven't touched a drop since Sunday. And, since this morning, I've been shaking, throbbing in the temples and feeling woozy. Very strange. Still, one of my colleagues has resigned today, which seems to be cause for a celebration, so I'm hoping a lunchtime pint will cure all my ills. Jesus, that David Moore gets filthier every time! He's evidently seen Martin Robinson in action (but haven't we all?)...Chris Leonard doing a Live Show, that sounds right up my alley, etc. Mark xxx *isn't she great? ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Jan 20 15:17:09 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 16:17:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Celine Dion Renews Marriage Vows: Murdoch to Renovate Wedding Tackle? Message-ID: <01bf6359$6bbdc020$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Magnetic Megan gave the 10% of us a red hot tip: "Duchamp's Fountain" ...in the 3.30 at Chepstow. Erica made the list crush results pump blow a gasket by talking about bras: "they believe that for a brassires to be both big and glamourous, they have to made entirely out of lace and satin in suggestive colours (anything other than white, basically) and have little bows on the straps. What next? bells?" That would be good, because then blind people could stare at women with big jugs as well. Those sweets that "men" were throwing at Isobel in Leeds, were they bogey flavoured sweets like the ones Harry Potter's got? If so, perhaps next time they could cut out the middle man and just flick bogeys at her. And her arse is big, she said so in an interview. The exact words she used were "I've got a really big bottom", so there's no need to feel bad about pointing out how massive it is. She was probably trying to clean the camera lens with it on the telly, so it's no wonder it took up the whole screen. I think the box set is an excellent idea from Jeepster. I wonder if it'll look a bit like a fag packet? Many thanks to the Man with the Masterplan for sending me a tape of Go Kart Mozart. My favourite tracks so far are "Drinkin' Um Bongo", the musical equivalent of the harrowing book "We Wish To Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Forced To Listen To Go Kart Mozart Together With Our Families", and "Sailor Boy", with which you are all familiar. The tape also features two versions of "The Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner", one after the other, just like blues legend Robert Johnson. They come from that Tube programme, the whistling's bloody awful, but the mad freak-out axe solo is great. I just wish it was twenty minutes long. THAI NEWS: Oon sends a big hug, bless her. There's a golf course in the middle of Bangkok airport, or vice versa. Right, I'm off to World of Keith. Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Thu Jan 20 15:25:06 2000 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (Ben Ferneyhough) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:25:06 GMT Subject: Sinister: Isobels behind. Message-ID: <200001201525.PAA24068@brookes.ac.uk> Hello everyone, with all this talk of Izzy's arse, I remembered a photo I have, so if anyone wants a jpg file (Honey ?) I have a rather amusing photo of Isobel's bottom, taken when B&S played Oxford many many moons ago. It's *even* funnier, as there is another photographer in the photo, and he looks like he's really getting in there ! For those of you who went, it was when she was getting back on the stage after going to the middle platform where the keyboards were ! I'm sure you can all remember that comedy moment ! well, I'll get off then. Ben x PS I'm 30 today :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nelle at xxx.se Thu Jan 20 16:56:36 2000 From: nelle at xxx.se (Ellen =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jernstr=F6m?=) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 17:56:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: melancholy me Message-ID: <38873E3C.D02269FE@hem.passagen.se> funny valentines - alexander b is a dear, and absolutely right. i was hoping for a sympathy crush-vote, but it didn't work. fair enough, s'pose. still hoping, tho. don't own a credit card - don't have a card-number - can't order t-shirts on line. shame. i know there are other ways of getting one but is seems very fussy. i've been singing b&s to myself on buses for almost two years now. still havn't met one person who likes them as much as i do. strange. the sinister-swedes are awfully quiet too. i found this site to prove the existance of swedish b&s-fans: http://www.acc.umu.se/~per-aake/songs2.html get yourself a realplayer and enjoy. i found my twin yesterday. odd feeling. i was surfing about, entered a site - and there i was. she doesn't look like me, but we share our taste in music, our way of writing, thoughts. i wanted to write her a mail but didn't know what to tell her. stupid. chet baker is the king of vocal jazz. it's thursday but i wish it was friday. fridays are the best of days, are music all night days, are video night days, are the whole weekend left days. not every day is like sunday. : ) puss pa er alla /ellen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Thu Jan 20 18:17:23 2000 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:17:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Bug of the month: Flu...."Fuck You!" Message-ID: <38875133.2BE6B858@cs.strath.ac.uk> Howdy pardners. I think I'll follow the thread that didn't really start with the reintroduction of the list crush and say VOTE FOR ME BECAUSE I'M THE GREATEST! NO-ONE ELSE IS BETTER THAN ME IN THE WHOLE WORLD! It's true. Maybe. The sky's a nice shade of pink at the moment. I'm rambling. That competition of Ian's is the first thing I've won since that cardboard replica of the Space Shuttle in primary school. Although Simon Gooch's was better. Me saying that doesn't mean he wins, does it? The follow up could be called "At least he's got an excuse for being a prick". Although mine could be followed by "These are the Stains of...", I suppose. Is it a sign of getting old when you start to think radio 2 is better than radio 1, or is it just a fact? There was a brilliant Marvin Gaye program on last week, which I only managed to hear half of before being interrupted by a phone call from Archel's mysterious Mr 5 Star. They were a great band, weren't they? They looked a bit like the Jacksons, and they sang about their washing machine or something. Anyway, well done to the Manic Street Preachers for getting to number one without the use of any cynical marketing ploys, oh no. What we need is more po-faced sloganeering at the top of the charts, that's what I say. Vive la revolution! Today I bought Woody Allen's "Complete Prose". The man makes me wonder why anyone else even bothers to try and be funny. A snippet, from his "secret private journal": "Getting through the night is becoming harder and harder. Last evening, I had the uneasy feeling that some men were trying to break into my room to shampoo me. But why? I kept imagining I saw shadowy forms, and at 3am the underwear I had draped over a chair resembled the Kaiser on roller skates. When I finally did fall asleep, I had that same hideous nightmare in which a woodchuck is trying to claim my prize at a raffle. Despair." What is art? Rat and tar are both anagrams of art, therefore they both ARE art. So the greatest piece of art would be a rat in some tar. I'm getting emotional just at the thought of it. I'll commission it for 50 squillion moonbeams. Or a pork pie on stilts. I feel I've not been quoting nearly enough people lately. Let me rectify the situation: Mustapha Christoffa: > Last night me and Julia went to the 'Spit > and Polish' launch, it was really good. Ben Vaughn, Laura Cantrell & Radio > Sweethearts played, they were all really brilliant. Stevie Jackson plays > bass with Ben Vaughn, and he's growing a huge 'afro' style haircut. I > think they're playing Aberdeen tonight and London on the 24th, you should go > if you like country music with laptop steel slidey guitar thing. Bumped > into big Alisdair Cooke, he was on his way to see Kate Rusby who everyone > fancies. I hope it was good Alisdair, I'm sure it will have been. Unfortunately, due to a small cock-up with overbooking of tickets etc I thought I had a ticket for Kate Rusby, but didn't. Luckily, though, all I had to do was follow Chris and Julia's scent back up the road and I was led to the same gig as they, which was very good indeed. Laura Cantrell was a little bit country, Ben Vaughn was a little bit rock 'n' roll, both were a whole lotta Cool. Buy their records at the end of the month and keep the MacDonald and McDonald Shoeshine empire going. And even though I missed her this time, yes Mark she is. Alexander: > I hate buying shoes. Just do what I do, and keep buying the same pair of shoes. I've had the same shoes three times now. The front of these ones came off when I was playing football, but I stuck it down with superglue. I love my shoes. and then: > I like big bums. I like Isobel's bum. That's all I am going to say. I have nothing to add. Steve: > Increadible (sic) smallness...playing with transformers...Bony M...catchy bits...raising > the ante...ass...not going down well...ass (again)...here we come...wearing > nothing...ouch. I have no idea what he was talking about, but it sounds filthy to me. This is the sort of thing we need more of. Keep it up, boy, etc etc. > just as we were reaching the > bottom of the slope, whooping and hollering with excitement, my feet got > themselves caught on a lump on the ground. according to one of our friends > who was observing from nearby, it looked like i had activated some sort of > ejection seat. i very quickly launched from a reclined sitting position to > a fully erect standing position, hovering about a foot over where the > toboggan had passed just moments ago, and then continued my foreward > rotation, landing face first in the snow, with my arms outstretched in front > of me, as if i were reaching for the now quite distant sled. I'm sorry, but this made me fall about laughing. It reminded me of the end of the first Naked Gun film, where OJ goes flying down the stairs in his wheelchair. I once almost broke my back sledging, so I suppose I shouldn't find it that funny, but I do. Erica: > I forced Alistair to sit on my knee at one point, and was > suprisingly light as a feather. Poor boy, thats what you get when you offer > a modern girl a seat. Funnily enough, I got off the divine Miss MacArthur's knees rather speedily because I felt like I was crushing the poor girl to death. Someone's being mucking with gravity around here. Iris: > try rhyming IRIS???? Would shy kiss do? That almost rhymes, and it's very twee. It sounds like a Field Mice lyric or something. Iris gave me a shy kiss. She didn't really, I'm making it up. Bah. Erica again: > JESUS MARY MOTHER OF GOD Why is Erica saying this with the voice of Paula Cullen so very funny? Someone explain. Alexander again: > Had I the heavens' embroidered cloths, > Erwrought with golden and silver light, > The blue and the dim and the dark cloths, > Of light and light and the half light, > I would spread the cloths under your feet; > But I, being poor, have only my dreams; > I have spread my dreams under your feet; > Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. Can you hear my heart melting? It sounds a bit like a cow drowning in a field full of mustard. I love that poem, but I can't remember who it's by. Is it Auden? Fill me in, literary types. Not literally, of course. Literary. What? Oh, and ARANTXA SANZ. Just because. Alasdair xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Thu Jan 20 18:59:25 2000 From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:59:25 -0500 Subject: Sinister: snow day! Message-ID: <200001201857.NAA05684@s1.nassau.cv.net> yes, dears, it's a snow day. i'm not sure if those of you in other parts of the world have snow days, but we here on long island certainly do. i'm not even dressed, and it's almost 2 o'clock, which means that it's time to go eat some food and watch the kids in the hall on tv, who i will also be seeing on stage in a few weeks... so all the actors in my play decided unanimously that they didn't want to do it any more. they all backed out, four weeks into rehearsal and three weeks from opening night, leaving me with no cast and no hope. it was going well, too... they admitted that the show would have been brilliant had they stuck around,t hey just didn't feel like devoting any time to it. i'm crushed. i've been planning this for a year... oh, bother. i'm going to go eat some reheated spaghetti and i'll feel better. talk to you later, dears... - adam aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Thu Jan 20 19:24:26 2000 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 19:24:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: All types of greatness Message-ID: Yes, caro mio Marco, she is great.And brill.And fun.And I am so useless I cannot tape anything decently for her.By the way, when I was at home I got this CD with a mag, where some riot girlie band sings a chorus which says ,more or less : a)You wouldn't practise the traditional W thinking on someone who disguises herself like Heidi,would you? b)You have all the boys after you.You can keep them.All those indie spanners with their trashy t-shirts,their trashy cords,their trashy NHS glasses. Go figure.If anyone is interested in listening to the rest of the lyrics,just email me privately.Too much swearing and sweating against all the pretended tweeness in the world.VIRGEN SANTISIMA -> with Paula Cullen's voice? Brasseries: My mum has posted a nice set of bra and knickers.Do you remember all the old discussion (Steve T. is right, this list is pretty Nietzschean and topics come,leave and come back as part of the eternal flux)about matching underwear? I will be one of them from now onwards, at least once per week.The question is the packet is still at the Royal Mail Central Services in Nottingham,but it is not in Nottingham,it's in some place called Billborough where Brian lost the sandal or whoever knows,so I haven't picked it up yet. Maybe I should ring Little RedHood Jen and propose her a new adventure : In pursue of a lovely pale-salmon coloured lingerie set.No cucumber in the sandwiches, Jen's mum,please.Or Marmite. I am continental. Isobel,the squirrels and I are ready to include some song in the next Gentle Waves album with the title 'Mary Jo and her big bum', about how much bullied you can get at secondary education because of a well-endowed,pert bottom... Do you obligatorily need a passport if you are British to leave this island behind? I am preparing a weekend in Paris for boyfriend (*****, 5 stars too)and myself and he cannot find his passport.I thought we were all European, and now than the beef and the baguettes and the apples have come to an agreement and all happy together on Sainsbury's shelves there was no need.This is a stupid question,I know,but maybe there is some Foreign Office civil servant among the 1100 or so of us.Or Parisian inhabitants who could provide suggestions about bars/restaurants/brasseries/quoique soit. Sorry about this lack of interesting content.At least there was some filth...Alasdair,you don't have to feel forced to quote me in your next message if mine continue being so crap. xxxxxxxxxx A. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox at xxx.com Thu Jan 20 21:04:39 2000 From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 21:04:39 GMT Subject: Sinister: Lloyd's Names, and the rest Message-ID: <20000120210439.12632.qmail@hotmail.com> The other day somebody mailed re. the dearth of unusual names in pop songs. (Odd, given the proliferation of ditto in pop stars' children's names?) But some do spring. 1. The oddest name in pop that I've heard is in Ray Davies' 'Holiday Romance'. So odd is the name that I've forgotten it. It's a bit like Millicent or Tabitha. 2. Speaking of a Millicent, Lloyd Cole had one in 'Big World', B-side of 'Lost Weekend' (1985). And LC has used loads of other unusual names: Jesus, Jody (but not Judy?), Rusty, Jesse... (see Papercuts 2 for more details). 3. 'One little girl's called Jane-Marie / Another little girl's called Felicity / One little girl's called Sally-Joy...' 4. 'Michelle / Ma Belle / Sont des mots qui...' I don't know: there are loads. What we should do is a names-in-songs service. Folk who feel under-represented in pop should say so, and it shouldn't take long to come up with a song that does feature their name. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dchard at xxx.ca Thu Jan 20 21:45:04 2000 From: dchard at xxx.ca (ipecac spice) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 17:45:04 -0400 (AST) Subject: Sinister: being insane Message-ID: hi everyone. i was thinking today, or maybe yesterday, how i was probably never going to post again. i had decided only to post things that people might be somewhat remotely interested in reading, or if something interesting happened to me... as interesting things rarely happen to me i thought that might be the end of my posting days. also i was very intimidated by honey's post about what is and is not acceptable. can we have on-going discussion on the list? so. today. i had class starting at the same time as my mom had to start work so i asked her for a lift over. we left a bit late. she was all stressful, driving too fast and bitching about how she was going to be late for work. now when i'm driving somewhere and i'm late i just remind myself that in the big scheme of things it's not so bad and it would make me later if i was pulled over for speeding or got in an accident. anyway. i was scared but kept my mouth shut b/c i feared facing my mom's wrath if i commented on her driving. then she's turning right and there's a little break in between the pedestrians so she decides to go. this is at the same time as a little boy decides to run out in front of us. we so nearly almost hit him. it was horrible. anyway. everyone lived. i now know that leving a bit early and taking the bus is the best plan. i was thinking about how easily we could have actually hit him. and how easily people die young everyday. my class seemed so trivial after that. anyway. i am now stuck on reflecting on life. last night i went to see "girl interrupted". it was very good. i wish i was winonna ryder. now she looks like a doll. the movie actually made me think that being insane might be fun. you could do whatever you wanted nd it wouldn't matter b/c everyone would already know you were crazy. but then if i went insane i wouldn't be myself anymore. -di "i respect those who have faith even though they are ignorant" -hemingway +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 00:32:49 2000 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 16:32:49 PST Subject: Sinister: symboles phalliques Message-ID: <20000121003249.31101.qmail@hotmail.com> Little Ones, Well this digest was certainly nice and feisty.I dont know..it even managed to pull me away from the exciting world of CELL DIVISION. (Yay Biology Exam Tomorrow) Sadly,I've realised that whenever I write to this list now,it's only as an outlet for my perverted ways with members of Belle & Sebastian. It shall have to stop! Besides,there seems to be plenty of it what with Christopher writing tales of Stephen Pastel finding the girl of his dreams,in a trailer,only to discover that it's Struan in a wig and bustier. And now this: >But just remember it's an option, >rather than lambasting anyone with your kinky whip. And Miss Honey means it too! Goodness..see what happens if you try and flip her skirt up... I admit,I'm such a target for jeepster.I mean..I even bought a B&S album on vinyl (and I don't own a record player) just cos it looked SO PWEETY!But I'm an artist you know.The sensual feel of the record cover as it lovingly enfolds the rounded disc.We can all appreciate this. There's always the chance that I will get a record player soon,someday..I want to hear the warmth and the crinkles and winkles and all that.I'll probably buy the jeepster boxset if it's pweety enough,I mean,it's my decision,its not like Struan's pushed me into the wall and has got both my arms pinned above my head,with only one of his hands,whispering menacingly "You..will..buy..it" and I'm going "Bite me,jeepster skank!" But he's just sooo strong..oh yeah,and Mister Moore pointed out that we can buy ONLY the case.I'm curious..is it a cute little case or is it some cheap-ass cardboard stuff that poor Richard had to assemble,huddling in the corner while Struan lambasted him with a whip? Was there a french 60's pop discussion going on here? Please..email me and discuss it with me because I'm doing a HUGE french project on it which is only worth about 98% percent of the year and my soul.There are names that are familiar but I questions about Yves Montand,Dalida (is she 80's?she has big hair) Annie Cordy. I swear that Fernandel character creeps the hell out of me.. xoxox Genevieve,north country boy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachel at xxx.uk Fri Jan 21 01:17:29 2000 From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 01:17:29 -0000 Subject: Sinister: i want sleep...why have i not gone to bed yet? Message-ID: <002c01bf63ad$62e610c0$9944883e@preinstalledco> hello fellow insomniacs and everyone who will read this at a sensible hour who are not awake at ten to one in the morning why am i here? i don't know. i'm not talking philosophically mind, though that could be interesting if a bit hard for my no-sleep addled brain to take right now. i feel like mrs merton ' let's have a philosophical debate...' except she says heated. obviously. ahhh, heat. i hate the winter. in my house neither the front or back door fits properly, and the roof has no lining, the slates are straight on the frame, so there are lots of draughts. this has been made 10 times worse by 3 slates blowing off the roof a week ago, leaving a sizeable hole. our house is now colder than the walk- in fridge at work. i have two ways of dealing with this. one is to huddle round the fire. this would seem like the sensible option but it would mean spending time with my family. so option two which i have resorted to involves wearing all my clothes in a sleeping bag with my duvet wrapped round me. it works, but it does mean i can't do much as movement is restricted. like revision. i have remembered why i am here. no, it is not to go on about primal scream OR jonathan rhys meyers. it is a vain attempt at self-promotion in order to gain list crush votes ;-) or in fact not, bcos, weary though i am, i have the distinct impression that i am not promoting myself fantastically well, or even slightly well tonight. actually, i think i'm rambling incoherently again. i love the word 'incoherently'. i've lost my point again. oh yeah, the reason i'm *really* here is to be gleeful. i know i'm not sounding particularly gleeful, but goddam i am. why? bcos ....i have a list crush!! this has never happened before and i'm very excited!! at least one person out of 1170 people reads my posts and doesn't immediately delete them! this makes me happy. i have made an important decision. my next novel attempt that is doomed to never reach halfway is going to be loosely linked supermarket stories. i could go on about supermarkets, well co-op, indefinitely, so i think i will. if i write anything almost decent this time i'll stick it in the library, which i will then secretly visit to read my work over and over cos i'm sad like that. and now it really is time for bed nighty night love rachel xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From modpopstar at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 02:54:57 2000 From: modpopstar at xxx.com (Leyla McNickle) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:54:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: "Do you remember the first time?" Message-ID: <20000121025457.6688.qmail@web305.mail.yahoo.com> Well...here is our second time... Hello out there to everyone in this Sinister world... Thanks for all of your well crafted fan mail. We feel compelled to post to you all again...Now that we have experience, (turns to Leyla) Sarah: Come on think up something witty, they are all waiting... [for the record we are listening to Looper's "Who's Afraid of Y2K?" --I just got it in the mail!! Thanks David Kitchen--you're my hero!] Leyla: Witty? I cant be witty under pressure..i have performance anxiety. Hehehehe. (first sexual reference of post). So, yes. who is afraid of Y2K. I wasnt afraid of Y2K.. I dont think i actually understood the implications of Y2K... to me it was just another New Year, another day wasted...on high expectation. Yes. Anyhow. OH, I would like to thank the listers who sent fan mail... and the odd marriage proposal.. THANK YOU! Sarah: Sad to say but No, Leyla and I are not looking to enter into matrimony at this time, but THANKS for the offer. I want to mention that I was very impressed with the post that quoted a lovely Yeats poem "He Wishes for the Cloths of Heaven", well done!!! Leyla: yes. Matrimony is out of the question. Sarah and I come in a package you see. You can't have one without the other! I belive this sort of practice is illegal... except in some islamic countries. So if you are a nice Sinister lister from...oh...the middle east...feel free to drop us a line. Okay. Im lying. WE dont come in a package. That was all a big joke. Also, as a sort of disclamer. I love the middle east. I am half iranian...and also half irish. (weird mix)... so dont try to get P.C on me!! yeh. Lets see.. tonight sarah and I are going out...to a club.. (we get out of the house, y'see) Sarah: Oh, yes, Leyla wanted to let you all know of her Persian charms... As for getting out of the house...well, it is cold out there on the mean streets of Atlanta. We are lucky enough to know the DJ intimately. (no, not like that! Cheeky!) We are freinds with him, he plays whatever songs we have the whim to request. We make everyone in the place just sit there and listen to OUR music for a change! Leyla: Hm. Persian charm. i dunno about that. I'm not really that persian. or charming for that matter. well..im 1/2 persian..so i suppose i am also 1/2 charming. yeah. Thats logical. WE are going dancing...Its great. Last week...our intimate DJ friend actually played a set of groovy 60's tunes. Small Faces and the like. But, mainly..we groove to the sound of more modern songs...charlartans, suede, pulp, etc. Sarah: Don't listen to her!! She is too charming, oh yes, like you wouldn't believe. I watched an old Audrey Hepburn film today and guess who looks alot like Audrey in her 60's gear...hmmm....let's guess. Could it be the oh so lovey Leyla, Yes, that would be she! She probably won't send a photo in, but I might perform a covert operation and sneak into her room and send it myself!! She wouldn't be the wiser...Who'd be in the top 10 list crush then!!! Leyla: im just going to pretend she didnt say any of the above stuff... cos'...no. Yes. Yay! kiddies. We are coming to london soon. I am so excited. London is my favourite place in the world. I think it has something to do with the fact i was born there..and think i would be happy there...i dunno. Plus, i have a london underground fettish. I will meet my soul mate on the london underground. i know it. so..back to sarah. Sarah is the girl of your dreams. But!! if you vote for her for list crush...i will probably get jealous...because she is mine!! mine i tell you! Sarah: Enough of the silliness, already! On to the soothing sounds of Belle and Sebastian, yes you all will know what I mean. Today I was driving on the highway to come downtown to see Leyla. I drove alone to "If You're Feeling Sinister" with the window down, the cold wind blowing round the car, and the heat on full blast. The CD player was turned up as loud as it goes, to the 'I want to fill the world with the music that fills my car' volume level. Yes, these are the things that make me truly happy.... Ooh, at the risk of being long winded...I want to say that I was impressed by Phong's post in which he alluded to Heidegger, who has a great way of adding metaphor to philosophical concepts. It was nice to see one of those metaphors on a post! Leyla: This morning, I was walking down the cold streets to University...wearing my headphones..listening to "Tigermilk"...for a moment...I didn't notice the homeless begging for money.. the sound of cars..impatient...reving engines..all i heard is the sweet sound of Belle and Sebastian. Set the mood for my day... calm... I listened to the Verve whilst getting dental work done the other day..which also helped me. I think richard ashcroft is the toughest, most self assured man in the world.. so as the pain worsened...i sang to myself in my head..."Come on!!!!" Or when the anesthesia wasn't working.."The Drugs Dont Work" oh...no they dont. Now...I say goodbye to you all... my hands are tired..and there is a great british programme on the television. So i will be off! feel free to email me: modpopstar at yahoo.com. Take care, best of luck, rockstar dreams. Love and poison leyla Sarah: (How's that for an odd mix of topic choices: music, dental work, and anesthesia!) I won't keep you any longer...we are off for the evening...So farewell Sinister friends. I just might die with a smile on my face after all... (we are now listening to The Smith's so the line seems appropo) Cheers, Sarah sarahduston at yahoo.com p.s. I just realised that I didnt make enough sexual references in the post. So for the record: Snogg, Wank, and Pornography. CHEERS! -leyla **I'd like to drop my trousers to the World!! -sarah p.s.s.s. (ssssssss's hA!) oh, please do drop your trousers sarah! :) (Worked one more in!) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 03:12:32 2000 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 19:12:32 PST Subject: Sinister: book list Message-ID: <20000121031232.9609.qmail@hotmail.com> O sweet sinister distraction... Sorry,I forgot to ask this...is there still that book list going on? I know I should search for it,but whenever I search for things I never find what I'm looking for. I have some I think would be nice additions but I do not want to plague the list itself. You know,there really should be a Sinister Recipe List as well.I get into cooking frenzies every once in a while and I got a super-fine "chicken" nuggets recipe for all you vegans out there.It could be so cozy. Gosh..lots of gym stories,and it's all pervy teachers! Well,I guess that's why they became teachers.I do know girls tend to stretch the truth a bit..like in wood-working class: "I swear,I GOT a 90 percent because I unbuttoned my shirt and I think he touched my bum!!" we love to compete.But I ask you this: Why is it never the gorgeous,luscious lipped teachers that are pervy? The ones that no-one would mind being pervy? The ones that we love so much? That are so passionate? And clear skinned? Ahhh..and I leave you with the fact that Struan would've made a great pervy lesbian gym teacher.He would make us all parade around in golden underpants for Modern Jazz/Tap class. xxx Baby&Cakes ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From francis69soul at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 08:38:21 2000 From: francis69soul at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?kevin=20parker?=) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:38:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Re: Sinister Message-ID: <20000121083821.19150.qmail@web1306.mail.yahoo.com> --- Tiago Romeu wrote: > > > if I'm trying to be the joseph goebbels of this list > ? well, can I think a > bit before answering you ;) ? > I'm glad you answered, really. the point is, there > is a difference between > an unmade bed and Tigermilk, isn't it ? if it's > based on not understanding, > than I expose my unmade bed (with nice and green > blankets), I call it a > master-piece and if you don't like, that's because > you don't understand it. > that's the easiest way. maybe the point is doing > something so weird and > meaningless, just to shock and get some attention. > and call it art. maybe I > don't understand an unmade bed, but I do understand > that whatever people > understand from it, is less valuable than Belle and > Sebastian, for example. > I know it's this conviction that made you writing > that thesis about > Goebbels and the nazi strategy. > the context is very important of course, but there > are ways to find quality > in art independently of its context. the words > "roten culture", referred > not to the bed, but to all the system in art that > mostly hides the good > ones behind the socially beautiful ones. that's > roten. > > > > > greetings > tiago > Tiago who are you or anybody else to tell others that what they get from an unmade bed is somehow not as valuable as Tigermilk. Its a subjective judgement what you are essentially saying is that what moves you is art but what moves others even if you dont understand it, whatever that means,is not art.As individuals our judgements as to what is valuable are always subject to our subjective feelings.I find Tracy Emins work very moving my feelings are as important as yours i am just as intelligent and sensitive or whatever as you are.Just because you dont consider things valuable dont presume to tell others what they can and cant find valuable in art. Why is an unmade bed less valuable than belle and sebastian? And talking of weird and meaningless things to get attention have you actually read some of belle and sebastian's lyrics."moved to kick the crutches from my crippled friend" Its shocking its fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thanks for actually writing something on the list with some content. Love Kevin. > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister > mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". > To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe > sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: > http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads > and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & > sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart > david, looper +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From francis69soul at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 09:38:46 2000 From: francis69soul at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?kevin=20parker?=) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 01:38:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Sorry. Message-ID: <20000121093846.23291.qmail@web1306.mail.yahoo.com> Sorry for discussing the lists content actually I really like it Im just in a pissy mood because I am ill. But I do hate it when people say that what moves them is valuable but what doesnt is of no value. Example I hate Elton John actually hates a bit strong but anyway everytime i hear that circle of life thing I get really emotional because it reminds me of my sister who is on the other side of the world so while the song isnt WICHITA LINEMAN, officially the greatest song ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It has a special place in my heart and I dont want somebody telling me it has no value because i think i have just demonstrated that it does, to me at least.I could try and justify my argument with a few quote from Derrida or someone else but I cant be arsed. B and S content i love them! Very happy because Primal scream are coming to Tokyo! Kevin. "If something sounds good then it is good" Bob Stanley. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Fri Jan 21 09:38:55 2000 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 09:38:55 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: love will tear us apart... Message-ID: <20000121093855.6427.qmail@web3001.mail.yahoo.com> So... you know how it is... standing in front a blank piece of e-paper not knowing what to write... and then... it hits you.... i'm going to send that... and I won't read it again... be careful though... it might not be that pleasant... and with that final warning.... I shall begin... A.R.T. A.northodox: seems and meaningless to say that Art's something that has to do with every expression of everyday life... R.hodes: is an island in the south east part of Greece that tourists love and locals hate... Why? I don't know... it's the only part of Greece that Americans know though... T.ough: it's so hard to find something that can make you feel happy and contempt... and as Dan Treacy says: "and every time I felt so good I felt guilty and I thought I'd better off when sad"... Don't you always have this feeling that yourself isn't really yourself and sometimes when you talk or do whatever, you can see your morbid self from above doing or saying all those stupid things... and you think... yer...well, that's not me... that's not who I'm supposed to be... Don't you sometimes express your love or affection just to realise soon afterwards that this is not love that you're feeling but a lame need to reassure yourself that you're capable of feeling... I mean... feeinig in general?? and... L.O.V.E. L.ies: the ultimate component... lies is the secret ingredient of a successful relationship... lies can get you anywhere... to a festive orgasmic self satisfactory extravaganza... whereas, honesty takes you nowhere... usually... unless it takes you to that dark, gloomy place where you'll be all by yourself wondering what went wrong this time.... yer... keep wondering... O.aths: breakable... V.ersatile: yer... can happen even to the best of you... with your good intensions... good intensions have been the curse of my life.... E.asy: it's so easy and painless to say that everything in life's temporary and that we should grab life from the horns - as my granny used to say - it's so easy to fall in love when you want to fall in love just to say and show that you're capable of falling in love... I wonder... where's that someone who would be able to see deep inside of us and love us for what we are? and what puzzles me the most is... would they see the real us or they'd just see the act that we're playing? Are we so much into this role that we've forgotten who we really are? that's so scary.... Represantation's taken over... Real life's been remoted as mere represantation... Art and Love are just represantations... is there an artist that I should know and I don't know that actually stand in front of his camvas and spit his guts on it? This is painful.... as painful the reading of this "letter" must have been.... To be really really honest - for a change - I don't read all the posts to this list... I find loads of them absolutely boring... why should I care about the new spot that suddenly's appeared on this poor boy's/girl's face just before their so important date? why should I care about Ms X's body part's? it's funny though, I have to admit... it's desperate... that makes it funny in a bitter way.... why should I care about book lists? I'd rather worry about my shoping list and my empty freeze and heart... .... and some B&S context.... just in case.... I think Stuart's an artist... whatever that means to you... he's a poet... and he's in suffering... being happy in a miserable world.... and I think that loads of you would fall all over him and tear him apart if you had the chance... like this horror movie... how was it called? can't remember... with that thing that had no form, was just a mass of cells struggling to devour everything that had the bad luck to find themselves in it's way... self-loathing.... that's the key word... this was quite long... I have to say here that I'm in a rotten mood and that explains a lot... but I believe what I've said... ...and a last cheerful thought.... there's only one way to be happy in this world... when you cherish the moments and consider life as a present... we... poor souls.... we can't save the world... we're just struggling to save ourselves... L.O.V.E. to you all.... and some love+abitmorelove to some of you.... kisses+molotovcocteilbombs V.F. PS: I know I've written some crappy stuff here... PpS: I'm sorry for my bad english... but as a foreigner I should be excused... PppS: and... given the opportunity I'd like to greet all wealthy fathers that pay their children's fees for fancy colleges such as St.Martin's in London... loads of money and no talent... pitty.... 15 MINUTES Mr.WARHOL.... 15 MINUTES....... ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From apytmw at xxx.uk Fri Jan 21 09:50:57 2000 From: apytmw at xxx.uk (Mark Whitsey) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 09:50:57 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I keep falling in love Message-ID: I keep falling in love I canÂ’t help myself. Not with real people, obviously, that would be silly. No, I always fall in love with the people I invent in hazy daydreams and drunken thoughts. I guess most are based on reality in some way, but abstracted from all the cruel bits that real people have tucked away, waiting to be let out one day. Most people there are horrid to me. I donÂ’t mind how horrid they are, not really, because I can fall in love with some imagined beauty and never be let down, until my imagination fails me and my memory lets her go. Love and hugs, Mark xxxxxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From apytmw at xxx.uk Fri Jan 21 10:10:25 2000 From: apytmw at xxx.uk (Mark Whitsey) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:10:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: ooops... forgot the b&s content bit... Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 2670 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Mark at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 10:03:46 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:03:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Caffeine intolerant Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22B7205A@SERVER1> I am mailing today to agree with everything Ally Cook has ever said, and to tell him my listcrush vote has just been submitted in his name, even though I said I didn't want anything to do with it. Humbug etc. However, Ally, your popularity is fleeting, cos next week I'm going to have to take it back and vote for Miss Vicky instead, otherwise she'll wallop me with her Spearmint album. Arantxa said "All those indie spanners with their trashy t-shirts, their trashy cords, their trashy NHS glasses." What a fantastic line! I hope this is Orangina paraphrasing, rather than a straight quote, as she puts it so well, as she does every time. I second Ally's emotion about Arantxa too. Di wrote about running over small children. I once had a schoolgirl bounce off my bonnet. But that's another story entirely. It hit me last night that Hefner have echoes of the Violent Femmes ("they rape women" in French, it would seem, which is odd), who no-one ever talks about on the list. Is it because in the states it conjures up an image of frat boys singing Blister in the Sun when the kegs are flowing, or because people just don't like them? I think they're fab. Leyla and Sarah (who are boss, by the way, though I think they need to set up a webcam for full appreciation potential) seem to be getting loads of fan mail. Erm, people, have you forgotten how great *I* am? Though thanks for your Tucker emails (Starry's was a bit odd, but no surprise there :-)), but can you get the marriage proposals coming, please. It's about time. Is anyone going to the great British folk night, or whatever they're calling it, with the divine Miss R, Eliza Carthy and her dad Todd, and some other people I don't know cos I don't really listen to folk music much? Alasdair, get your well-travelled ass down here and worship at Kate's feet like all good sinisterines should. Anyone who doesn't know Kate but came to Tigermilking - she was the weird, widdly-fiddly song I played about 11 o'clock that cleared the floor. She's Grate! Is Tag back on the list? Mark xxx ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 020 7224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 9905418B at xxx.uk Fri Jan 21 12:44:03 2000 From: 9905418B at xxx.uk (Roderick Brannan) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:44:03 -0000 Subject: Sinister: art shmart Message-ID: Hey beautiful people! In view of some of the recent discussions about art, I thought you might like to hear about my girlfriend's (who is a fine art photography student) exhibition which I went to on Monday night. Admittedly her work was quite good (a series of photographs of horizontal landscapes taken at slightly different angles and arranged into a complet arc - impressive when up on the wall) but the other two "artists" who were having the exhibition with her produced between them some of biggest piles of shite masquerading as art I have ever seen. One of them found old Pictionary drawings and exhibited them along with a pretentious statement about progression of identity and ideology (they weren't even her Pictionary drawings for Christ's sake!). The other one drew some pictures of fish, and calculated how many fish could live in a certain Loch. Pish. Maybe I'm just a cynic, or uncultured, or both. Who knows. Who cares. Who killed Laura Palmer. Anyway, I'll be off now. Exams beckon. Pish. Young Roddy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.waggner at xxx.net Fri Jan 21 13:32:20 2000 From: m.waggner at xxx.net (Michele Waggner) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:32:20 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Caffeine intolerant Message-ID: <003301bf6413$f2c02c60$a9aa4f0c@amstech> Casarotto-the-Suave surprised me by mentioning the Violent Femmes in a favorable light. I'm trying to picture him with a baseball cap on backwards spilling beer all over a sweatshirt with Greek letters on it (which letters, I assume, spell "Abercrombie"). I can't quite see it. Maybe it would be Art. You can't spell Casarotto without "a-r-t" , you just have to move them around a bit. However, Violent Femmes are indeed grate... sometimes you just need a good time. The first time I saw them, which was longer ago than I can say anymore, there wasn't a frat boy in sight. It was in fact at a folk music concert in the shadows of the battleship on the Hudson River. They shared the stage with the likes of Odetta, Joan Baez, Suzanne Vega, etc. When they sang "Country Death Song" I laughed my (american) ass off -- Mr. Hopkins would love it just for how it takes the piss out of Dylan. Which was my take on it anyhow. A couple of years ago, the VF came to play at a university in this town, big event here where nobody EVER plays. It was an outdoor gig, and the neighbors were up in arms. One man rented himself a loudness measuring device and lurked around the university and abutting streets documenting the sonic impact of the band and writing down all the vulgar words they used to prove how people were imposed upon while they sat on their front porches. Much debate ensued in the "Letters to the Editor" column. We now get no more live outdoor music that isn't symphonic or swing in this town... and the lurker is on the Board of Education -- diligence rewarded. Life in New England. As for Kate Rusby... yes indeed, she is GRATE. I think she should be given an honorary list membership so that Mark can vote for her as his list crush. He'll want to after he sees her. (And he likes it when Miss Vicky gives him a good beating, don't let him kid you.) I was lucky enough to see Miss Rusby when I was in London and I think you all should go. It was very "fucking B+S" as we used to say. The other 90% of you who can't go to the show can all go to her website and hear her magnificent voice at http://www.purerecords.demon.co.uk/index.htm Martin, whatever did you want to know about Jefferson Airplane that you didn't learn on the Fulton Street set? I think your listening might be enhanced if you twined some flowers in your hair. Write me if you want to know something... I'm no expert, they were the favorite band of my ex, but I did dabble quite a bit. I liked "Triad" quite a bit, but that was back when we were sexually revolting...um, revolving :) Speaking of boxed sets, the thing to do to maximize sales is to add the all important "extra track" or "previously unreleased track" which you take from some bootleg everyone already has anyway. Then you get to say, "we did it for the kids, so they'd all be able to have it and we get to foil the bootleggers at the same time." Don't forget to release it in all formats as well. One good thing about bundling them all up together is that people then spend the whole amount at once, rather than choose to buy them one at a time as funds permit. Speaking of Hopkins, which I did above, I heard he was writing a novel which was to be serialized here. I believe it was titled, "Up Against the Wall, Motherfucker." I don't think he ripped that off from J.A. though. Play nice kids, --Michele (young at heart and reasonably ignorant, vying for the title of "Machiavellian Bitch Queen of the Millennium" ) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Archel1978 at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 13:45:21 2000 From: Archel1978 at xxx.com (Archel1978 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:45:21 EST Subject: Sinister: all my troubles seemed so far away Message-ID: i'm moving tomorrow. not many people will be interested in this, but since it means that i'm leaving the fair shores of sinister to journey through the dangerous waters of jobless, internet-less, family-less independence (oh shit - what *am* i doing?) i have to mention it. i'm depressed. i blew a job offer yesterday. it was like in 'just a minute' where any repetition, deviation or hesitation was penalised. (oh well done archel, alienating the remaining half of the list who hadn't pressed delete after reading the word 'depressed'. 'just a minute' is a long-running UK comedy quiz on radio 4, okay.) anyway, because i hesitated (for like, 2 seconds), when being offered the job (which admittedly i don't really want, but beggars can't be choosers), they suddenly changed their minds. fuckers. still, my 5 star (in every sense) boyfriend phoned me instead of going to see kate rusby with alasdair, which seemed like a lovely sacrifice at the time, but since ally didn't see her in the end anyway it's not quite the same, not that phoning me was the actual reason he didn't go anyway... er, where was i? oh yes, so i got to have a good moan at him about how unemployable i was. in my weary, jaded mood i say yes! to the box set. i mean, i'd stoop pretty low to make money at the moment, so i'm not going to criticise anyone else (especially a bona fide business whose *job* is to make money) for doing so. not that i'd buy the bloody thing of course, what kind of mug do they think i am? hmm, momentarily cheered up then by the sight of my cat sitting in front of my speaker with a rapt expression on her face. didn't know she was an r.e.m. fan. she looks a bit like the hmv dog in front of the gramophone, only she's not a dog and it's not a gramophone. oh, now she's ruined it all by jumping up on the desk and trying to sit on my tbwtas cd, which is just not on, however cute you look. anyway, thanks for joy, fun, seasons in the sun (and snow), friendship, picnics, tigermilking, repetitive strain injury, square eyes, P!O!P! facts, flattery, poetry, hospitality and more. i'm going outside. i may be some time. archel xxx *********** Coming soon: Buzzwords ~ new writing on the web ~ All submissions/enquiries to: archel at iname.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 13:56:17 2000 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 05:56:17 -0800 Subject: Sinister: why is throbbing gristle considered inappropriate in disco? Message-ID: hello folks, hey, does anyone know anything about the flintstone comedy show? it was on bbc2 at about half past seven in the morning in the weeks before christmas, but now seems to have been replaced by tom and jerry. anyway, it was a shit early seventies flintstones spin off featuring adolescent pebbles and bam bam in a band called the bedrock rockers. the rest of the programme was dire, but the bedrock rockers are now one of my favourite bands - any information about who actually sang the bedrock rockers' songs would be gratefully received, but please mail me directly. before the willennium youn said of string bean jean: > Phil could be short for Philip or for Phyllis, couldn't it? > Or even Philomena. i had a think about that, and i believe that phil is a girl. why? because struan always refers to boys by their full name, and to girls by a shortened name. it's true, just look at this list: sebastian, anthony, michael, belle, jenny, jo, judy, lisa. see? and don't go trying to think of other examples to prove me wrong because quibbling just doesn't suit you. i seem to have bought the new hydroplace cd twice. i don't know how, but i have. i may now attempt to play both cds at once in an ill advised experiment in quardrophonics. i'd tell you just how good the cd is, but you'd probably get the wrong idea and think i was trying to sell you my spare copy. beck? bah, it was pretty obvious that he'd sold out when the photos of posh and beck's wedding were sold exclusively to hello magazine. i must say i'm looking forward to the release of "commando squirrel", i hope it'll have that instrumental one the gentle waves played live, and maybe even the isobel cover of "kinky love" too. i am also looking forward to the subsequent opportunity to buy the essential "gentle waves cardboard sleeve" into which the two cds will nestle nicely. that'll probably be followed by the opportunity to buy an official "b&s side project plastic bag" into which both gentle waves and looper releases can be placed together. lovely. mark, is it moe tucker? is there anyone in the south of england who wants a couple of kittens? a friend is moving house and can no longer keep them, i can email a picture to anyone who might be interested - sorry for the blatant list abuse, please mail me directly. bye bye, kevan p.s. a willennial present for you all: http://www.splishsplosh.co.uk/belleandsebastian/song.html *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tmh at xxx.edu Fri Jan 21 14:21:13 2000 From: tmh at xxx.edu (Todd M Herrmann) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 09:21:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: B&S on NPR...I must be dreaming In-Reply-To: <20000120210439.12632.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: What a lovely morning. It snowed nearly 5 inches where I live yesterday and last night the sky cleared up just in time for the total lunar eclipse which was spectacular. I don't think I've ever seen a reddish moon until last night. And it was supposed to be visible all over North America so I hope those of you on this side of the ocean caught the show. Well my brother got his second day in a row off from school due to the weather while I've had to trek to work both days driving on snowy roads. Boo. But anyway I had a B&S moment while I was driving into work today. I was listening to NPR's morning edition. (Its a morning news program on public radio here in America for those of you unfamiliar, with the standard top of the hour headline news, but for the rest of the hour they run less mainstream news stories, which are really interesting as they are really insightful into the lives of the people involved, more so than you traditional headline news..but I digress) Anyway at the end of one of their news segments what should my wondering ears here but none other than the last few orchestral bars of Dirty Dream Number Two. My mouth just hung open in surprise for a minute. Now I know NPR runs some classy programs but I now hold them in much more esteem for picking the perfect music to end a segment with. And if any of you happen to work for NPR and were directly responsible for getting B&S out to a national audience then I say Bravo! It brightened my day. Todd +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 14:33:09 2000 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 09:33:09 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Lets all love each other Message-ID: <200001210933_MC2-95B8-12FE@compuserve.com> Hello. I haven't written in a long time, that's because I've, erm, I've, er, well, you wouldn't believe me even if I told you, so I won't. Anyway, I'm going to London tomorrow, I don't know what for. I just fancied a day trip to somewhere and London seemed a hip and happening place. Any of you lovely people want to meet me or something. If you do then I'll meet you in the Contemporary Fiction section of Borders in Oxford Street* at 11 o'clock in the morning. I'll be holding a copy of Catch 22 by Joseph Heller in my left hand. come on, what do you say. Oh yeah, I'm 19 years old and a bloke. Rob *The contemporary Fiction section is on the second floor. If you still get lost ask at one of the tills, or try the security guard at the door. He always gives me evils when ever I walk out. :| If you still can't find it, go home. erm, thinking about it. If you e-mail me privately as well, as I'd like to know how many people I'll be meeting tomorrow. But I think I'll probably meet no one. Knowing my luck and all, oh well, mustn't ggggrrrrumble +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Fri Jan 21 14:36:30 2000 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 09:36:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Pending Box Sets, Chicago Pipedreams, Other things Message-ID: Morning all, Ever since I left Chicago I have a had a cold, and while my sore throat has gone away, my sinus cavity is full of fluid and really not nice, so I am a bit on the cranky side. However, I love all of you, and don't want to bring you down, so I will take it out on my coworkers instead :) I'm really bad with transitions, so I'll use headings, for easy skimming, reading and ignoring of this message if you like. WEIGHING IN ON THE BOX SET If the box is nothing new except for a snazzy carrying case, I think I will have to pass. I am not enough of a fan boy to buy a case to hold me belle and sebastian eps in (because they usually wouldn't be in there anyway) but I am enough of a fan boy to be subscribed to a mailing list, own everything they have ever put out (except the Gentle Waves which isn't belle and sebastian really) and travel to see them multiple times if they ever cared to grace this country with their presence again. But I just can't do a carrying case. CHICAGO PIPEDREAMS I think when I move to Chicago I would like to find some people to play music with and maybe even get a little serious about it. I have this plan to have $5000 before I even attempt a move, but I feel this is probably unneccesary, since my feeling is I will get a job pretty soon after I move to town. as a result I will have money to buy some musical instruments. I'd actually like to do multiple bands, maybe one straight rocking out band and then maybe a boy/girl duo with instrument switching that would be a cross between the Crabs (pre Sarah Dougher), Holiday FLyer (pre Verna Brock), and Quasi. These are just pipedreams however, so I thought I'd share. SOAP OPERA MARK Every day at work we watch this horrible show called the Bold and The Beautiful. It's bad. But, like a train wreck, you can't stop watching it. Anyway, yesterday, the plot moved (which happens like once every six months) and my coworker Lewis jumped from his chair, dropped to his knees and extended his arms in adulation. It made my day :) DISAPPOINTING, LIKE EVERYTHING IN THIS TOWN My friend Liz and I caught dinner last night and drank coffee and on the way home we notcied that that moon was starting to be eclipsed. It looked really cool, but was cold as hell out, so we decided to go in her apartment and wait until around 10 before 11 to watch it fully eclipse. Fortunately for us, because our timing sucks and Cleveland sucks, a giant, thick cloud blooted out the moon just as it was about to go red. Yet another of life's disappointments. LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL I'm taking it easy tonight. I promised Ree and jjh-b tapes, so I am going to stay in tonight and make those for them. I also need to send my next package for Andreea's wonderful tape tree, but if Heather E. would be so kind to wait a day, I will tape jj's offering as well and send her both the 2nd and 3rd tapes in the tree from me. Then tomorrow I am going record shopping at the coolest record store in Cleveland. I have a big long list of stuff I want to buy so I will probably be a fiscally unsound little boy. I'm going to try and keep it sane though. LIBERATION It's interesting not being smitten with anyone. I may have to try this for a while. Actually that isn't true. I'm smitten with my views of my past relationships. Well one in particular. Silly me. THAT'S ALL FROM HERE Sorry for wasting your time. For those of you on the digest, this post will be easy to skip. For future reference, just skip the titles with "Brandt" or "bfundak" in them. Have a good day, take your vitamins and try not to get sick. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 14:41:53 2000 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 09:41:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Oops Message-ID: <200001210942_MC2-95AE-BF8@compuserve.com> Oops, I just sent and e-mail asking people to meet me tomorrow. My dad just phoned saying that we have to go out somewhere. So tomorrow is off. Not that any of you were going to meet me anyway. :) Sorry for wasting peoples time. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From windisch24 at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 14:48:48 2000 From: windisch24 at xxx.com (mike windisch) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:48:48 PST Subject: Sinister: pish posh tit for tat Message-ID: <20000121144848.36585.qmail@hotmail.com> amusing and arty anectdote: just this past weekend whilest doing my duty as an arts writer for this local citypaper, I motored down to wakefield to take in an gallery show of balinese art. Among the featured pieces was a traditional xylophone and a bigass metal gong. There were a few posh couples browsing for that special expensive something to hang over the sofa/divan/barkalounger. They were the type who checked the dimensions and price before really seeming to look at the piece to decide if they liked it aesthetically. I equate these folks with those annoying shits who go to museums and only see the wonderful works through the lens of their video camera. So, on my way out, after indulging in a farewell flirt with the lovely gallery girls, I strode purposefully up to the gong, grabbed the handmade mallet and did my holy duty and wacked the bejesus out of that gong with a most untwee intensity. From it arose a wonderfully loud, rich and resonant tone that shook the walls and made those upper-crust-kooks jump clean off the floor and almost out of their skin. I shared one last lingering smile with the gallery girls and went on my way. Being the polite sort that I am, I waited until I was outside to let loose with some well-earned laughter. In other developments, I actually listened to some b&s last night while driving through the snowstorm. pretty crackling good stuff. Just a thought: the lovely weaver lass whose aquaintance I have just recently been blessed with making, told me on the phone last night that for her architecture class she had to write a piece on eavesdropping. With all the talk of bus riding and lurking in clubs that goes on in this forum, it seems like sharing the fruits of this most enjoyable form of experiencing diversity and garnering a chuckle from the rabble all around would cause sinister smiles to grow, n'est pas. At any rate, here goes a short and pithy overheard snippet: three college girls gurgling around a coffee shop table supping on scones and chai. One says to the others, a little to loud, "It was too much, I can't even say out loud what he was doing to me." Judging from her intonation and the animation with which she spoke, this unspeakable act was surely among the most pleasurable she had experienced... keeping the sin in sinister... mike windisch ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.cullen at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 14:56:37 2000 From: p.cullen at xxx.com (Paula Cullen) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:56:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The 'hoods been good to me, ever since i was a lower-case G. Message-ID: <01BF641F.B7E0F3C0.p.cullen@music-control.com> evenin' ladeez, its been too long......way too long....... alastair the Copy and Paste Bonanza Boy quipped: > JESUS MARY MOTHER OF GOD >Why is Erica saying this with the voice of Paula Cullen so very funny? Someone explain. and aranxta shrilled: >VIRGEN SANTISIMA -> with Paula Cullen's voice? now, im not quite sure what The Voice Of Paula Cullen (TM) sounds like, but at least my blossoming popularity on the list gave me an excuse to post again. this century, i have been mostly lurking, largely due to the fact that i haven't got a bleedin' clue what yiz are all on about these days. its all a blur of tits and french pop music to me..... ...and dont get me started about the sinister list. (de dum, tish) anyway, i'll be over in london next weekend (28th jan) so if anyone could recommend somewhere where i could shake my funki munki without getting the usual stares, that might be nice. (rest assured that i wont take a blind bit of notice of any advice anyone gives me and will end up going to the same places i always go) i see there is something on in the poetry cafe on friday. now, whilst i would *like* to go to that, i will have my mate stacy in tow. somehow i cant see her warming to That Sort Of Thing. she has a terminally low art-wankery threshold. or so she keeps telling me. that'll be all for now, notice my booze explosion sig. file has disappeared. im *far* too mature for all that these days. begorrah! The Paula Cullen Maturity Explosion! Maturity! Yeah! And Not Before Its Time, Either! You're 24 This Year Young Lady! Maybe Its Time You Started Living In The Real World! And Get A Hair Cut! You Look Like A Bleedin' Hippy! *sniffle* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Fri Jan 21 13:16:45 2000 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:16:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Box Set Go Go's and the Whitby Prawn Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000121131645.00753340@ampsys.co.uk> Another day another Dollar, And what a great band they were. A bit like a half of Buck's Fizz without the cherry. Talking of 80's pop I got a hold of the first Aztec Camera album yesterday, admittedly about two decades too late but what the hell. And what a lovely slice of popkin pie it really is. Walk out to Winter is a fine, fine ditty I think I could play till the cows came home. But I don't think I should really elaborate on my current domestic living arrangements. As for fat bottomed girls, without coming all over the Queen, or something, they make the rockin world go round. A bit like the Gentle Waves. Maybe. My god, I just quoted Queen I think someone should shoot me now, next I'll be appreciating the works of that Steven Morrissey bloke everyone seems to harp on about. As for art I didn't make my bed this morning , as an artistic statement like, but the cows when they come home were more interested in chewing the Cud. Which pissed me off no end as I loved that Robinson Crusoe song and now it's covered in cow slobber. Ho hum. As for the Box Set thing. I think if they truly wish to empathise with the kids, the nice people to do business with at Jeepster should create a webpage with instructions of how to build your own box. No sniggering Moore. All you'll need is a bit of cardboard, some double sided sticky tape, a pair of blunt scissors and some nice artwork you can print out from the webpage. I tell you if they don't do it I will. Maybe. Build your own box with Belle & Sebastian. What fun! I definitely thinks it's time for me to find a job where I actually do some work then I could leave you lot in peace. Never mind. Anyway, I'm off to patent my Struan Murdoch nasal wigs and a selection of Early Learning Centre Belle & Sebastian items and not going to the pub at all. Te ra, Martin ear confection recordings (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) P.S Everyone should list crush vote Ally Cook cause he's great and deserves more than a fleeting Mark C vote. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.cullen at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 15:08:09 2000 From: p.cullen at xxx.com (Paula Cullen) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:08:09 -0000 Subject: Sinister: pack of turncoat bastards. Message-ID: <01BF6421.540D0120.p.cullen@music-control.com> oh yeah, and another thing.... i noticed NO-ONE has voted for me on the crush thingy. not even the people i paid handsomely. pack of BASTARDS. i didn't want your POXY votes anyway. yiz can all FUCK OFF with yerselves, so yiz can. *brief sulking moment* i used to have FIVE!!!! (count 'em!) votes on the old board. i mean, i *may* have voted for myself, like *once*, or something, by mistake, i cant really remember...... so where have those people gone, eh?????!!!! surely they cant all have been committed, can they? (can they?) The Paula Cullen Sulk Explosion Ah, Fuck Off. Yes, You. Who Do You Think I Meant, Stupid? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 15:20:03 2000 From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE HENRY DICKIE) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:20:03 GMT Subject: Sinister: NOT BOXING CLEVER Message-ID: <20000121152003.79536.qmail@hotmail.com> MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM INDEED YES ETC I USED TO WRITE ON THE LIST LIKE REGULAR FRIES BUT NOW I'M ONCE A BLUE MOON I'VE NEVER SEEN A BLUE MOON OR A MOON RIVER OR ETC DON'T WORRY THIS EEEEEEEEEEEEEE IS GOING SOMEWHERE I HAVE NOT BEEN DRINKING MOONSHINE SO I'LL GET ON WITH THIS MOON DANCE YER I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE BIRDSEYE MICROWAVE MEAL ADVERT I LOVE IT IT IS THE SEQUEL TO THE OTHER WHICH I LOVED THE FIRST ONE WAS WHEN 2 BOYS WERE COOKING A BIRSEYE MICROWAVE MEAL AND THE ONE BOY SAYS TO THE OTHER BOY I THINK I FANCY YOUR MUM AND IT JUST ENDS MM I LOVED THAT AD 'CAUSE I ALWAYS WANTED TO HAVE A CRUSH ON A FRIENDS MOTHER BUT ALAS IT NEVER HAPPENED I NEVER EVEN HAD A CRUSH ON A TEACHER MMMMMMMMMMMMMM SAD ANYWAY THE SEQUEL IS EVEN BETTER THE 2 BOYS ARE COOKING THE BIRSEYE MICROWAVE MEAL AND THE BOY THAT LIKES THE MUM IS TOLD BY THE OTHER BOY TO GET THE CLOTHES IN WHILST HE COOKS THE MEAL MMMMMM IT IS RAINING U SEE DON'T WANT TO GET THE CLOTHES WET MMMMMMMMMMM NEXT THE THE MUM COMES INTO THE KITCHEN AND ASKS HER SON WHERE THE OTHER BOY IS HE TELLS HER AND SHE SAYS SOMETHING LIKE HOW SWEET AND WALKS TO THE WINDOW TO SEE HOW IS GETTING ON AND THEN IT CUTS OUTSIDE TO THE BOY IN THE RAIN JUST STARING AT THE MUMS BRA AND KNICKERS MMMMMM ACE THE MUM DOES LOOK NICE I THINK I COULD FALL FOR HER ETC MMM YER I FOUND TELLING THAT STORY HARD I'M NOT GOOD AT EXPLAINING THINGS I'M BEHIND ON MY LIST MESSAGES MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE HAS TALKED ABOUT THE AD PROB MUCH CLEARER ETC MMMMMMMMM I DO LIKE THE NEW PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THE NURSERY MMMMMMM SOME OF THEM ARE MMMMMMMMM VERY INTERESTING ETC MMMMM I THINK POKEMON WINS THE BATTLE AGAINST POWERPUFF GIRLS I DO LIKE THE POWERPUFF I LIKE THE PUFF STYLE BUT IT IS NOTHING COMPARED TO JIGGLYPUFF THE SINGING POKEMON MMMMMM AS I AM TALKING PUFF I SHOULD MENTION PUFF THE MAGIC DRAGON KING OF ALL PUFF THIS KNIGHT CALLED SAINT GEORGE KILLED A DRAGON ONCE MMMMMMM ***KEEP SAINT GEORGE IN MY HEART KEEP ME ENGLISH*** THAT IS THE START TO A ANTI IRA SONG I PROB SHOULD NOT FINISH IT OFF SOME MAY LIKE THE IRA ETC I WOULDN'T WANT TO OFFEND MMMM I'LL GO NOW LOVE AND E=MC HAMMER BOY GEORGE PS. ON THE QUESTION OF MARIO KART MMM I LIKE THE SNES VERSION BETTER BUT I 2 LIKE BEING WARIO WHEN I PLAY THE N64 VERSION MMMMMMMM ANYONE STILL THERE SORT OF LIKE BEING IN LIMBO PAST THE END OF AN EEEEEEEE LIKE THE CREDITS OF A MOVIE THE FILM HAS FINISHED BUT STILL GOING MMMMMMMMMMMMM DIRECTED BY GEORGE HENRY DICKIE U GET THE PICTURE MMMMMMMMMMMM HA HA HA HA I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE I HATE SAYING THAT I HAVE SAID IT ALL MY LIFE I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY MMMMMMM YER STOP L O S T ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Fri Jan 21 15:31:13 2000 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:31:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Box Set Go Go's and the Whitby Prawn Message-ID: What a bunch of arse our email is. I send some drivel here earlier and it's clever and discerning enough to reject it as a pile of cack. Which just isn't fair. So if they both make it through numorous argumentative routers I'm only being repetitive to make a point. Anyhow... Another day another Dollar, And what a great band they were. A bit like a half of Buck's Fizz without the cherry. Talking of 80's pop I got a hold of the first Aztec Camera album yesterday, admittedly about two decades too late but what the hell. And what a lovely slice of popkin pie it really is. Walk out to Winter is a fine, fine ditty I think I could play till the cows came home. But I don't think I should really elaborate on my current domestic living arrangements. As for fat bottomed girls, without coming all over the Queen, or something, they make the rockin world go round. A bit like the Gentle Waves. Maybe. My god, I just quoted Queen I think someone should shoot me now, next I'll be appreciating the works of that Steven Morrissey bloke everyone seems to harp on about. As for art I didn't make my bed this morning, as an artistic statement like, but the cows when they come home were more interested in chewing the Cud. Which pissed me off no end as I loved that Robinson Crusoe song and now it's covered in cow slobber. Ho hum. As for the Box Set thing. I think if they truly wish to empathise with the kids, the nice people to do business with at Jeepster should create a webpage with instructions of how to build your own box. No sniggering Moore. All you'll need is a bit of cardboard, some double sided sticky tape, a pair of blunt scissors and some nice artwork you can print out from the webpage. I tell you if they don't do it I will. Maybe. Build your own box with Belle & Sebastian. What fun! I definitely thinks it's time for me to find a job where I actually do some work then I could leave you lot in peace. Never mind. Anyway, I'm off to patent my Struan Murdoch nasal wigs and a selection of Early Learning Centre Belle & Sebastian items and not going to the pub at all. Te ra, Martin ear confection recordings (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) P.S Everyone should list crush vote Ally Cook cause he's great and deserves more than a fleeting Mark C vote. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 15:38:18 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 07:38:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: exams, armidillos, cottages, and maggie thatcher the runaway hairdresser. Message-ID: <20000121153818.13892.qmail@web607.mail.yahoo.com> uuuuuuuuhhhhh ooh, nice jacket...hmmm. damn, shes got nice nails too. Anyway, where was I? EXAM!!! EK or woooo? dunno. Horrid thingy, involving synonymymymymymymymymymyms things that I only worked out what that was about last night. But at least I revised my grammar, all the use that prolly did me, eh. And an essay about boozing in norway. In Norwegian. and frankly, boozy norwegians must be IMPOSSIBLE cos I never met any. And it costs �6 for a pint out there so they definately can't exist. they only exist when they leave their country. So thats what I wrote about. And I saw a film yesterday for my exam on Monday, it was Jackie Brown. And I got the english interpretations of the scandinavian novels I'm *supposed* to read in their original language (yeah, and BooBoo wasn't secretly controlling Yogi bears every move with reverse psychology) for Wednesday, but I haven't, so I'm reading them in English, which might be okay, cos I got to write two essays about four scandinavian books in a coupla hours. But shhh! don't tell!!! I've prolly failed part of my course though. Apparently. Opps. read some funny stuff in the union paper yesterday, about answers people put in exams..... H2O is hot water and C2O is cold water.... Queen Elizabeth exposed herself to the troops and they all went hurray before going off to defeat the spanish armidillo.... The pyramids are triangle things between the french and spanish border.... Mummies are the inhabitants of Egypt artifical insemmination is when the farmer does it to the cow instead of to the bull.... ...There was a whole bunch more that made me snigger and forget my woes for a few minutes at least, but I can't remember them off the top of my head. Someone called me last night at 2am. twice. when I was trying to sleep. I was not a happy bunny at the time, but I'm a happier bonnier bunny now, cos my exam, THE HARD ONE is out the way, and at least with the others I have semi decent good coursework results to help me along. I really have to study more. Oh, I don't want to be a student, I want to be a writer...successful of course, well, as long as theres money and I can have a nice little cottage with a nice attic conversion painted white with lots of pillows on the floor and a pretty view of hills and trees and ducks and things, and I can have a labrador puppy and take it for walks and it won't chew up the funiture. But then again, there will only be pillows so that shouldn't be a problem. Big pillows. One has to be red. A nice big squishy one, with a velvet cover. No tassles though. But instead here I am, in norfolk, with NO hills (I thought about moving Arthurs Seat down, but its geographically impossible.) and I live in a little terraced house with two messy boys who play loud crap music. And I'm doing a degree cos I can't think of anything else to do quite yet. I had an odd dream last night about Margaret thatcher cutting my hair near Murrayfield and then she ran away and I took the train home, only there was no train, so I had to walk through a tunnel on the tracks, heaving behind me a big blue plastic box, in which I had locked my little brother, only he was still a child, rather than the moody 18 year old he is now. And then I dreamt I locked all the doors and took my hair off, as it was attached to my skull with elastic and paperclips and so I cut it myself. If only I could be good at something, then i'd know what my destiny was.... but would I want to? yeah, why not. Everyone else does. Cherrypips. Idleberry ===== visit the idle site:www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/5117 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 15:55:20 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 07:55:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: the woes of having a crush Message-ID: <20000121155520.7453.qmail@web604.mail.yahoo.com> I fancy me even if nobody else does. That goes for my boyfriend WHO IS ON THIS LIST AREN'T YOU. oh well, boyfriends can be replaced *hint hint warning* Ann Summers here I cum for some unconditional love. ===== visit the idle site:www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/5117 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 16:25:25 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:25:25 EST Subject: Sinister: throwing the keyboard out the window Message-ID: <28.1118b90.25b9e275@aol.com> the stupid thing is a year old and the space bar is sticking like a 'mofo' argh you people posting tons and tons of bits. i finally checked everything then there are three more, and then a straggler from idleberry. hehe. and i read them all yes I did. word for word. i need a job. this is all i'm going to comment on art. i've done well to let it be, but being so influenced by the art community that i am. i must copy someone else's words | V "i've got a shrink, i swear he's elvis, i think, he wears the coolest suede shoes when i come in with the blues. He thinks it's all about culture and art but the truth of it is that it rips me apart. tell me i sold out." _marvelous_3_ take it how you see fit. leyla wrote: <> that is hilarious,my best friend is half and half like you. aussi.(irishiranian) is your dad psycho too? he's threatened to kill me since she's moved out on New Years eve. haha. and i won't disclose her whereabouts. so i reckon you've got those 'eyes' oy vey. <> sigh, i wish my people weren't real. i feel your pain my friend. but perhaps it isn't them we are in love with. perhaps it is the idear of love. i know it is a beautiful image.sigh. today i am going to look at a house. how strange is this. it's such a grown up act. rightly i am an adult. but no i'm not. haha. it's a magnificent thing 10 bedrooms or so, it's gloriously old. it was a hospital here in the 1920s. so it's sure to be haunted. the owner wants a grand a month which isn't too bad considering we'll have like 7 people living in it. seven divided by 1000 that isn't much at all. less than an apt alone.and this is a whole house! with fireplaces in each room how romantic. sigh.and i can have lots of animals..woo. ok yes i'm sure none of you care. but delete me then! the only thing i'm afraid of is the cost to heat this monstrosity of a house. well we'll see itisn't set in stone and it needs loads of work. like it doesn't have any windows.d'oh it's been boarded up for over thrity years. they come to put plumbing in like next week i believe. which means i have to get off my asss and find a jobywobby. fringe benefits of living at home. yes ok i have things i need to do. ciao iris i tried to suprise you with vodka or tiser i can't quite remember but you didn't thank me you didn't even thank me because you never do. _morrissey_ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachel at xxx.uk Fri Jan 21 16:53:08 2000 From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:53:08 -0000 Subject: Sinister: apologies Message-ID: <003601bf6430$57c688e0$5c2b883e@preinstalledco> greetings o sinister ones firstly: i just got today's digests. my mail from last night/this morning was in it. for anyone who read it, i am deeply deeply sorry. i will never again inflict myself upon you in that sleep-starved state again (did you like the alliteration there?!), i promise. but promises are there to be broken y'know.... still, at least there was another grate post from sarah and leyla. yay! and everyone's looking for tuckers which made me laugh. it's tres disconcerting seeing your surname everywhere! does anyone know how to get an accent over the 'e' btw? tres just doesn't look right without the accent, and i like using tres, cos otherwise i overuse really.... i had a strange experience at work today. it went like this: 'that'll be £12.39 please.' 'you're certainly not from round here are you love. that must be a lot of travelling just to work here.' 'i'm sorry?' 'well from gloucester to oxford is a long way' 'what you chatting about?' 'that's a good old gloucestershire accent you got there. what you doing in the city love? you after a rich hubby or something? cos i can do the business y'know...' < me, my bad mood getting increasingly worse, about to do some fistual damage if he keeps leering> 'i live here i have never been to gloucester, i don't know where the damn place is, don't call me love and that's £12.39. PLEA-se' 'ooh, there's a bit of bitterness there isn't there! well, if you say so love, though it's definitely gloucester...and hey, i meant it about 'doing the business' if you're interested...' and so it went on. the smug git did *eventually* pay, though not till after he'd asked what us gloucester girls got up to with sheep...!!! i couldn't believe it! all i can say is that some people are weird and ain't that the truth. and most of them are on this list... ;-) lovin' and leavin' you rachel xxx who is definitely from oxford and can catergorically state that she has never been NEAR gloucester! ever! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From no_surprises_21 at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 18:21:02 2000 From: no_surprises_21 at xxx.com (Chris Heil) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:21:02 PST Subject: Sinister: the box set issue Message-ID: <20000121182102.19213.qmail@hotmail.com> I am surprised everyone is taking such issue with the box set coming out. I mean..I know there is always the "those greedy record company bastards want more of our money" arguement but I think if it gives the chance to more people to get these eps of their favorite band...it's worth it. I'm not even sure why the record company feels they need to do it. I hear people on here saying that they should just reissue all the eps seperately so people can buy what they need. Does this mean that these eps are out of print or something? Where I live in the US there are a few record stores right by me that you can get any of the 4 eps on cd or vinyl, and they are always in stock. Well I must admit, even though I have all the eps..I will have to look at this new artwork and see if it lures me into buying them for no apparent reason. Well bye bye all. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 18:39:00 2000 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:39:00 EST Subject: Sinister: the box set issue Message-ID: Chris Heils said: "I am surprised everyone is taking such issue with the box set coming out. I mean..I know there is always the "those greedy record company bastards want more of our money" arguement but I think if it gives the chance to more people to get these eps of their favorite band...it's worth it. I'm not even sure why the record company feels they need to do it." I agree Chris. I like the idea of the box set probably because I have gone broke buying the EPs myself, so anything that makes them cheaper is alright by me. It might not immediately be apparent to those of you in the UK where the EPs are not imports, but you can't find them on CD over here for less than $10. When all is said and done, thats $40 for 16 songs, and if B&S charged that for their new album I'm sure more than a few people would be up in arms to say the least. The box set more than halves the cost of them, plus gives us new cover art and maybe some interesting new liner notes as well. Plus, if you have them all on CD nows your chance to buy them all on vinyl (except TIJAMRS) for substantially less duckets. I doubt B&S are doing this for any other reason than to make the EPs cheaper and more widely available to people who have had to track them down and pay import prices for the past 3 years (and to tide us over until the new album as well). If you go to the Jeepster B&S site it has the box set cover art as the greeting (and it does look quite nice!). NPR played B&S? Wow, thats quite nice to hear. Maybe they'll do "All Things Considered" when they pass through DC...here's to hoping! Later Steve C. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Which Paul?" "BLAH!" visit http://callowkids.tripod.com or your crush will hate you forever +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". 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Message-ID: <20000121202510.21913.qmail@web1102.mail.yahoo.com> hello to everybody ive finally been let out of the nursery to play with the big kids you all seem very nice but im still a little scared cos youre all so much wittier than i and have much more interesting lives its a gray day that keeps threatening to rain but doesnt and i have finals starting on saturday cruel and unusual and play rehersal on sunday fucking sadistic director but it doesnt matter cos im listening to b&s tigermilk we rule the school and im in love but dont have to pretend anything wondrous once in a lifetime hope i dont screw it up i must go if im to eat anything before philosophy evelyn xxx ps is there anyone on the list who lives in sourthern california? i dont know any sinisterians except for my ex, who i dont talk to for obvious reasons could we plan a meet up? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittenmouse at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 20:39:03 2000 From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (kitten mouse) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:39:03 PST Subject: Sinister: "tanx, weewee," i said. Message-ID: <20000121203903.1403.qmail@hotmail.com> hello, i just wanted to say thanks to all the people who have responded to my pathetic plea for info on french pop, it's all been quite helpful. maybe now i should try to do all the commentary in french. guess i won't though, since i haven't spoken french for quite awhile and my pronunciation would "ecrouche la langue" and whatnot. i don't even know if that is correct grammar, truthfully. ugh, i'm late for work by half an hour. good thing i always start work around the lunch hour, so no one will really notice, hopefully. anyway, all of you rock for helpin' me oot, even my sock monkey thinks so. ! andrea kittenmouse radio (mondays 9.00-10.00 pm PST) kpsu 1450 am portland, oregon kittenmouse at hotmail.com www.kpsu.org can't look at the sky without looking right thru it ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MooKitten at xxx.com Fri Jan 21 23:58:17 2000 From: MooKitten at xxx.com (MooKitten at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:58:17 EST Subject: Sinister: climb into my twee box... Message-ID: <6a.346a04.25ba4c99@aol.com> hullo all.. I figure I've been on this list quite long enough without making a squeek, and since the fashionable thing at the time seems to be everyone having their firsts I thought I'd throw my two cents in. I must say I think I'm falling in love with Brandt, who shares my sniffles and odd mid-western past. I used to live in Chicago some time ago (I used to think it was the back room of the earth), and though I never thought much of it I'm thinking of moving back to room with a friend of mine who goes to college there. The same friend is coming here (nyc) tonight, and tomorrow I'm dragging her down to DC with me to see the magnetic fields.. even if she's no idea who Stephin Merrit is. Which leads me to the off subject question, is anyone else on the list going to the concert tomorrow? I suppose I should throw in some B&S content here somewhere.. What do you think is the best belle and sebby music for airporting? Or any sort of music for that matter? I've always liked airports for some reason, and belle and sebastian seems to go very well with that whole mod-airport theme. Is this just me? I think I'll sit down and be quiet now.. sigh.. I am not sarah or leyla it seems. And I have the sniffles from the unusally cold mid-westernesque weather we've been having here. People in new york seem awfully scared of snow.. ;) I'm off to the airport now. That wasn't so bad, was it? love and boxes, Katie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.borgia at xxx.ca Sat Jan 22 04:27:28 2000 From: alexander.borgia at xxx.ca (Alexander Borgia) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:27:28 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Dictionary Day Message-ID: <388931B0.362B87A9@sympatico.ca> [Sounds of Isobel playing cello and Sarah playing violin] [Images of violin shaped Sarah and Isobel and jello] [harp sounds] [ more harp sounds] Hello Boys and Girls from the Troll who won't go away. Today's dictionary day is about bad words. We are going to look into some of those naughty words you aren't allowed to say. But first, we have a letter from a boy called The Major. He is 8 and he says that the way he gets to say bad words is to discuss them with your parents. Ask questions about the dirty word and you can say it as often as you like. But make sure you let your parent know that you are only saying the bad word so that you can find out more about it. What a wonderful idea, boys and girls. So that is how we can talk about bad words today. Our first bad word to discuss is, now remember, we are only saying it to find out more about the word, we aren't actually using it or saying it to get into touble, our word is: Mother-f [abrupt stop] [cue announcer] We interupt this broadcast to bring you a Special Presentation. This episode of Dictionary Day was never supposed to be aired any way. The following is paid for and is the opinions solely of the firm Bear, Bear, Bear, and Nephew, and Son. [theme song from 2001 A Space Odyssey - then deep resonant voice] Welcome to Sini-Crush 2000. Your weekly update on the Crush list watch. This is the Weekend Edition. [sponser's advert] A bear and a rabbit were taking a shit in the woods. Said the bear to to the rabbit, "Do you have a problem with shit sticking to your fur?" To which the rabbit replied in the negative, so the bear wiped his ass with the rabbit. Here at Bear, Bear, Bear, and Nephew and Son, we will represent you and make sure that none of the shit sticks to you. We can have bail posted within an hour. Call us and we will be there quicker than a rabbit. [end sponser's advert] [cue announcer] What a wild week it has been. The Sini-Crush is getting off to an interesting start. There are still quite a few potential votes to be cast. Let's have a look at what has happened so far.... Laura (I'm not a tart, I'm the whole pie) Llew has increased her lead with 3 votes. {lleweth at hotmail.com} Ellen (Think about it, I'm Scandanavian) Jernström has made it onto the list with a vote.{nelle at hem.passagen.se} We see this from Alasdair [those fucking bastards pre-empted my guest spot on Dictionary Day] Cook who already has a vote registered and gets another one today..... {acook at cs.strath.ac.uk} " VOTE FOR ME BECAUSE I'M THE GREATEST! NO-ONE ELSE IS BETTER THAN ME IN THE WHOLE WORLD! It's true." And those are not only the two leaders overall, but leading by gender. We also see Idle [you weren't planning on closing both eyes when you sleep ] Berry threaten her beau....{idleberry at yahoo.com} "boyfriends can be replaced *hint hint warning*" Can we know if she voted his name? As well, we see this from Jeanette (no last name but I will take advantage of your young body because I'm older and wiser) {jeanette at ktc.com} "By the way, you should never believe a word I say. I'm over 30." How about that for some subliminal mind control that seems to have worked. [commercial interruption] "I survived Sini-Crush 2000" Get your T-shirts now. We have a limited stock of them so don't delay. One size fits none. Available colours are black with black writing. Prices include shipping and handling... US Dollars: 2490.00 UK Pounds: 11,237.00 CDN Dollars: 24.99 +PST +GST +THIS_ST +THAT_ST +ANOTHER_ST +50% of your income in more taxes. EUROS: However many you send. [end commercial interruption] [cue announcer] In further developments...... Rachel (watch me beat that tart Laura) Tucker, who already has one vote, says this in a secret message which our analysts from the firm Bear, Bear, Bear, and Nephew and Son, have decoded.....{rachel at tigermilk.freeserve.co.uk} "me doing my best fuck off teenage attitude....cos i can do the business y'know...call me love and that's £12.39....hey, i meant it about 'doing the business' if you're interested...sheep who is definitely from oxford" Our analysts tell us that Rachel is definitely trying to secure the rural vote in this move with advanced media techniques. In another breaking story, our analysts have noticed considerable activity on the body parts page. Now is this only Mummy catching up or can we expect to see even more activity? Of course, the research department of Bear, Bear, Bear, and Nephew and Son, are currently verifying the stipulation that anyone appearing on the body parts page will technically be a non-nursery member of the list, therefore capable of having a registered vote placed in their favour. This is cause for concern because today it was learned that a 10 million dollar class action lawsuit was launched against the Toronto Sun and their page 3 bikini girl and improprieties involving a photographer who resigned Wednesday. Thankfully the firm Bear, et. al is not involved as yet, however rumours have begun to surface in regards to Joesph's missing two weeks. It has been discovered that Joseph is bisexual and will have sex with both humans and bears. It would also appear that most guys, particularly after an evening of pints, cannot distinguish a girl bear from a boy bear from behind. Is there a scandal brewing up? Our analysts are also following a trend of listees subtlely drawing attention to the e-mail address or suddenly siginging off their e-mails with their e-mail addy. We'll see how things develop over the next week. That's it for this edition of Sini-Crush 2000 Weekend Edition. Remember, cast your vote, doesn't matter if you know the person, (in fact, all the better) but let's see you exercising your sinister right. alexander.borgia at sympatico.ca I'm not just any cheap internet slut, I'm king of the cheap internet sluts. [this space left blank intentionally] [end e-mail] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Sat Jan 22 04:31:46 2000 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:31:46 -0500 Subject: Sinister: blasphemy Message-ID: so i come in here after months of silence (or maybe weeks, it's all the same really) and start raging at everyone and freaking out, and someone gives me a crush vote. i'm flattered, but also very perplexed. i never thought my yelling, rude side was my best one, but perhaps i've been wrong all these years. i feel that it's time to turn over a new leaf and be more abrasive. god knows we all need it. i can see julie and brian thinking, oh no, not that. i can see ben thinking something a lot meaner. but i think i've been too nice to modern humanity, and it's time to start cracking the whip. so i noticed that a katie from new york is going to see the mag fields and stars in dc tomorrow. it will be an amazing show, because you know the headliner, but you may not realize that STARS are amazing. julie's going tomorrow too, so maybe you'll see her. she's going to be with paul who i believe is probably a psycho, so please come to her aid if she starts screaming and trying to run away. i, on the other hand, will be sitting at home. well, maybe not. it's cold though. cold saps my strength. by the way, since katie mentioned it, and although i don't know her, i would like to mention that i have a roommate named katie. she's insane. she's jumped into both the east river and the hudson river for no particular reason. she's kind of like a girl in a belle and sebastian song, which has lead me to the conclusion that they sound nice in songs, but must be really, really annoying in real life. so anyway, on the bodyparts page, some of the chatters in the #sinister chat room have been having a little debate. there's a bit of disagreement as to which gender each bum belongs to. and miss shoulder may as well retitle hers lips. but i think we have far to few bodyparts for all the talk. i know peter miller has mentioned more than his share, and if he won't pay the piper then i won't be responsible for any paparazzi hanging in the bushes outside his home. i love you all, xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu are we not men? we are magnetic fields. http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ updated 8/5/99 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Sat Jan 22 04:40:14 2000 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:40:14 -0500 Subject: Sinister: postscript Message-ID: dammitt!!!!! i spoke too soon. after reading alex's post in shock i raced to the crush board and realized that i had lost my one crush vote. fickle, fickle public. so fine, lauagh. i don't care. but i'm still going to be mean. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu are we not men? we are magnetic fields. http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ updated 8/5/99 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Fri Jan 21 18:20:29 2000 From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:20:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: the only comment i'll make on the boxed set. Message-ID: <200001220541.AAA28560@s1.nassau.cv.net> yes, you heard me. in the interest of become a genuine Sinister Personality (notice the non-characeristic upper case), i will offer my comments: dears, boxed sets are -good-. they save money, and they aid people in being completists. take the nick drake boxed set, for example (which is fab, you must buy it right now. now. really, go. i could use some support from other nick drake fans: every b+s will love nick drake and must buy his boxed set.) i heard two nick drake facts, loved him, then found out there was a boxed set... so i bought it, saving me about $20, getting a nice booklet, and giving me a cohesive listening experience. if it weren't for that, i wouldn't have more than two of his records, especially since they're a little hard to find. the same with the magnetic fields 69 love songs... although i'll address that in a different post, because i need to rave about it. the long and the short of it: i paid $10 each for my b+s eps, and i - still- don't have dog on wheels. if the new fan can get three of them for less than $30, all at once, with pretty new artwork, and get indoctrinated in the meantime, what's so bad about that? i like it. - adam aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Fri Jan 21 18:37:30 2000 From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:37:30 -0500 Subject: Sinister: deadwood divine In-Reply-To: <6a.346a04.25ba4c99@aol.com> Message-ID: <200001220558.AAA14146@s1.nassau.cv.net> no, sorry, this post is not about deadwood divine, although is album is pretty good. it's like acoustic emo, which is rather strange. MOOKITTEN i will withhold from praising your wonderfully silly name for now and first say that my favorite b+s record for airport listening is 3...6...9... second of light, because that's what i was listening to for the first time as my airplane pulled away from the girl i was in love with. sad, cliche, but still true. yeah, it makes me want to cry. STEPHIN FERRET i just got finished listening to the last disc of 69 love songs by the magnetic fields about five minutes ago... it's brilliant, brilliant! i'm so glad that i got ahold of the boxed set instead of buying them separately... it comes with this lovely full-color interview booklet... and you get to listen to them all at once, instead of in little bits. my favorite tracks that i can remember so far are 'reno dakota' ("reno dakota there's not an iota of kindness in you...") and 'acoustic guitar', which i really would like tab to except that it hasn't been posted yet. i'm sorry that i'm not as twee as usual right now but it's rather late and i'm not really in the mood. i should go write some e-mail to a friend now who asked me to, but first i'm going to go see if there's some dirty movies on tv. goodnight, dears! *kiss* - adam aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From allstate_63 at xxx.com Sat Jan 22 10:00:28 2000 From: allstate_63 at xxx.com (Chris) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 02:00:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Boxed sets make this boy a happy boy Message-ID: <20000122100028.10961.qmail@web601.mail.yahoo.com> Id first like to start off by saying hello to my fellow Belle and Sebastian fans. I have not been a fan of Belle and Sebastian for a long time. I am just an infant in the wonderful world of BnS. Its nice, I feel like I have been reborn. They say that a child learns more in thier first two years of life, than they ever will. Who "THEY" are? Im not quite sure. The first time I heard the name Belle and Sebastian was from a friend. I first didnt want anything to do with them. Why? I had never heard them. Then, a few months later, while purusing the listening stations at the local rip off shopes, I saw Tigermilk. I thought I would give it a listening to. I put the headphones on, and enterd a world of pure aural bliss. I was floored! Ever since that moment I have been deeply involved in Belle and Sebastian. I only own If Your Feeling Sinister, Tigermilk, and The Boy With The Arab Strap. I am waiting for the boxed set. I am in Los Angeles. Belle and Sebastian, even though they have a small following here, are very difficult to locate in the rip off shopes (cd shops). If they do have Belle and Sebastian they only off Arab Strap and Tigermilk. I cant wait for the boxed set. A LITTLE ABOUT ME: I labeld this a little about me, so that you can skip over it, if you just dont care. Why wouldnt you care though? Anyhow, for thoes who do care. I am a 20 year old film major, residing in Los Angeles. I love it here. I have lived here my entire life. I plan on living here for the rest of it as well. My interests: Film, Music, Computers, etc etc etc. There are far too many to list. Music I like: Belle and Sebastian of course, Morrissey (seven shows this last tour), The Smiths, Suede, Pulp, 60's soul, Mod, Brit pop, etc. I dont know much indie stuff. I would like to though. I am happy to be on this list. I get a bit jealous when I read about all the fun stuff happening on the other side of the pond, because there really is just a small BnS following here. I suppose I will have to do something about that, wont I? I am assuming that is all for now. I am on another mail list for Morrissey, and it is SO different. These messages are all HUGE compared to the messages on the Moz list. It is quite refreshing to be able to type and type and type. :) Thank you all for having me. Ordinary Boy~ Chris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From joefri714 at xxx.com Sat Jan 22 10:19:57 2000 From: joefri714 at xxx.com (Boygirlorder .) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 10:19:57 GMT Subject: Sinister: elsewhere in fantasia a beast of darkness also began his quest... Message-ID: <20000122101957.58713.qmail@hotmail.com> {prepare for yet another faceless name} why hello there kiddos, this is my first post...i dont know why i didnt post earlier..probably my boring nature, intense procrastination, and lack of interesting things to say (that could also be argued at the end of this post im sure) but here i am posting....info about me useful and useless: i am mark, i live in new jersey, go to school in maryland, am a complete insomniac, i spend too many hours in #sinister....that is all. as proof of my maddening sleep deprivation i submit exhibets a and b a: it is currently 4:37 am.....b:this post in general. today was quite a great day. i saw the magnetic fields tonight for free..well almost..see..i bought tickets to see them in washington (baby) dc, but i found out about the show here after i put them on a friends credit card...so i thought i was out 30 bucks since i couldnt very well call out of work twice..i was going to sell them to julie..but my friend called ticketmaster and said his little brother stole his credit card and ordered the tix..they let him cancel, but they kept the service charge (fucking nine bucks damnit) oh well...so i drove out to swarthmore pa to see them...and i got in for free...and had my fill of free beer and pizza (i wasnt DRIVING per se, so much as sitting in a rolling car) and the magnetic fields were absolutely amazing...eek..my new goal in life is to stand still and have stephen merrit sing to me...forever...stuart m. would probably be quite more enjoyable...but im not still dripping with his energy and power...oh yeah...and we got very lost going home..and ended up in a very bad neighborhood...we had almost no gas...we ended up calling the police on a cell phone and getting directions...funny in hindsight i guess. * mark prepares to tell his gym class horror stories * 1. the freshman gym class had gathered in the center of the basketball court to pick teams for its three week tournament. an obese young man sat in the back hoping to be ignored, yet realizing that the time would come when he would have to be recognized. as fat as he was, he was still a head taller than most of his classmates and therefore assumed that he would be picked in perhaps the second third of his classmates. the boy watched in horror as, one by one, all of the other kids were picked by the two popular captains. all the girls were picked. the slow kid was pickes. the boy with one leg was picked (im not kidding at all). finally when there was no one else to pick, the bulbous boy (ok, we know its me..im just being an ass) began walking towards the team with the misfortume of having last pick...when suddenly he heard the brash captain inquire, much to his (my) utter embarrasment, "WHOS ABSENT?".....ughhhh!!! 2. in 3rd grade my gym teacher was yelling at me cause i couldnt do a single pull-up..and i told him to "shut the fuck up".....(indeed i am not twee one bit) but you know what is very twee...the never ending story (here is where you the listee...if you are still reading..think of a witty comment about this being the never ending post) i mean...its about a boy named bastian who, wearing a lovely sweater, hides away from a bunch of bullies and reads a book about a boy and his horse..all the while learning the importance of dreams...where the greatest wisdom resides in the swamp of sadness. * MARK DEALS WITH TOPICS * ART i was in a literature class that had this discussion for three weeks straight...it cant ever be resolved....ever..but hey i guess it is kinda fun to argue. SOMEONES COMMENT THAT THE SINISTER OF DAYS GONE BYE WAS SUPPERIOR well you see...everything i go near turns to crap..so..i think its my fault...even if i didnt post...my evil energy was creeping about...there was also a comment about there not being any controversy..hows this: who thinks that all people should be refered to as abortions....example (me talking to muh uncle) uncle: so your cousin just started 2nd grade me: oh yeah? uncle: yeah the little abortions doing just great!!!!! or this: i think that the beatles and the stones should fork over the best rock band titles that they have been awarded by every critic in this solar system and lay them down humbly at the alter of the zombies... maybe those will get people in a huff...but i beleive both just the same ISOBEL'S BUM lets never ever stop talking about it...looks just fine to me. STUPID SHIT IVE HEARD girl in cafeteria: "oh shit..this pizza is so hot...and my nailpolish is flamable!!!" man in video store: "these arent due till the 9th...what is today" (this was on the 4th of july as a parade was rolling bye and fireworks were going off well you people (though i bet very few are even reading this) have had more than your fill of me..now you know that you hate my posts..and this prolly fulfills me forever...and if you are really angry at me for posting...blame laura llew...she made me do it (in my most childish accusotory tone)....anyway love ya all, * mark * ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bertrand.Caron at xxx.se Sat Jan 22 14:42:42 2000 From: Bertrand.Caron at xxx.se (Bertrand Caron) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 15:42:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Will Oldham in stockholm...HELP Message-ID: <3889C1E2.9B6D9DF9@uab.ericsson.se> I just saw on www.palacerecords.com that: Upcoming shows.... Bonny Prince Billy....Scandinavia Dates: January 24 Stockholm record shop in-store: Skivringen January 25 Stockholm record shop in-store at: Pet Sounds bar show at: Folkhemmet But I don't know where is the shop skivringen and the bar Folkhemmet. I already figured out the petsounds one but if I can see him three times, I will so If anyone in Stockholm can give me the adress of the one I don't know, I will be gratefull Bertrand: A french lost in Stockholm +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk Sat Jan 22 14:10:57 2000 From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (sweetie) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 14:10:57 -0000 Subject: Sinister: BE BOLD -SMILE FOR THE CAMERA Message-ID: <000101bf64ec$330fdbc0$851e883e@anne666theasylum> sinister i had a b&s ish dream well only a tiny ickle bit but towards the end of my dream stuart murdoch was sitting on my settee in my living room but it wasnt mine in real life if u know what i mean and he was sitting next to honey mr murdoch didnt say or do anything at all. honey spoke, but i dont remember what he said and i was in the kitchen coz i didnt know what to say to them and stuart murdochs silence was a bit creepy and i was freaking a bit and pacing alot and honey came thro to the kitchen and said something then i woke up. and that was my dream bit crap really i could have went into more detail and i didnt know if i should bother mentioning that honey was in a dress :) sweetie xox +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ciflux at xxx.com Sat Jan 22 18:04:35 2000 From: Ciflux at xxx.com (Ciflux at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:04:35 EST Subject: Sinister: music for airports Message-ID: I finally delurk for this question: > What do you think is the best belle and sebby music for airporting? Or any > sort of music for that matter? I've always liked airports for some reason, > and belle and sebastian seems to go very well with that whole mod-airport > theme. Is this just me? I like airports, too. And train stations. (Not bus stations, though -- at least not for the most part.) They are places of temporary, transitional moments, some big, some small. I find I do my best thinking while waiting for flights or trains, feeling temporarily suspended from my day-to-day life and getting ready for some kind of momentary displacement. I like that feeling, actually, and the music I bring along should ideally reflect that. It should be a little wistful and dark around the edges, yet not *too* sad, slow or melancholy. It should sculpt itself around the station and the experience. Here are some prime suggestions. Try them on your next travel mix tape (uh, I'm not the only one who does this almost every time he travels, am I?) -- Nick Drake's _Way To Blue_ (I remember listening to "Northern Sky" on a flight from Newark to London, watching the edge of the horizon begin to brighten -- one of those perfect moments) -- Edith Frost's _Calling Over Time_ (brought this along to Minneapolis last year and it seemed to sculpt itself around the airport lounge) -- The Flying Burrito Brothers' _Further Along_ (though this is more for long road trips) -- Yo La Tengo from _Painful_ onward -- St. Etienne's _So Tough_ -- certain Eyeless In Gaza songs -- they wrote a lot about travel and weather. "Transience Blues" works especially well. -- The Smiths' _Louder Than Bombs_ -- pretty much any prime New Zealand pop music from the mid-80s, especially the Chills, Bats and Peter Jefferies -- Adventures In Stereo's blue album -- Sarah records sound best on plane flights -- I hardly ever listen to most of them at home anymore... ...and my Belle & Sebastian in-flight selections: "Stars of Track & Field," "Slow Graffiti," "Lazy Line Painter Jane," "It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career," "Photo Jenny," "Rollercoaster Ride." There's more, I'm sure. OK, back into the shadows. mike (who's done far too much traveling this past year and is enjoying being earthbound for awhile) ciflux at aol.com http://members.aol.com/ciflux +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Sat Jan 22 19:46:32 2000 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:46:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: A Winter Wasting Message-ID: <20000122194632.4680.qmail@web303.mail.yahoo.com> Life is sunny, life is joy. Yep, it's time I got out of this January funk and embraced the the year without thinking too hard about the fact I hit my quarter-century sometime in the middle. Having lived here for a few weeks I decided it was time to expose my new flatmate to a spot of B&S to see if it sparked any recognition, turned him into a fan on the spot or resulted in a thunderous argument. He walked in to the lounge (alright, Living Room) while Tigermilk was playing. The following witty exchange ensued: Flatmate: "Who's this?" Me: "Belle & Sebastian." Flatmate: "Oh." I expected a few more words from someone who freely claims to be a journalist but at least it wasn't the "Get that shit off my stereo!" which I've heard oh so many times. So why am I so happy? Well - I've got eleven days holiday to use up before the end of March. Unfortunately my meagre funds won't get me out of the country so I'll be having some grate adventures in unfamiliar places in the UK. Mail me privately if you know anywhere that's ace and worth visiting (though not necessarily twee). That is all. I'm off to get drunk. Robster P.S. My last post fell into a black hole so my apologies if another post beating the P.E. thread to death turns up unexpectedly. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Sat Jan 22 20:14:31 2000 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:14:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: amidst a sea of empty bottles, crockery, and coffee cups Message-ID: <20000122201431.22421.qmail@web108.yahoomail.com> right right. so i'm listening to the lucksmiths' "staring at the sky," which i keep taking off my turntable in an effort to give my other records equal attention, but which i keep putting back on because it's fucking Addicting, and i'm thinking that "smokers in love" has such a cute little chorus -- "la la la la la la smokers in loo-ove" -- but the rest of the song is so damn Depressing. ay. we had a party last night, and maybe some of you remember my advice (spawned from a new year's party) to keep away from the kid with the polaroid camera... well, i should take my own advice, but something about having an entire bottle of tropico (rum + juice stuff) to myself made me actually Seek Out the Camera. unfortunately for me, there was also a video camera sneaking around, and there is just something about wearing pants (trousers) under yr skirt that gives you the urge to lift up yr skirt for everyone, including said camera. oh the party comes back to me in little snippets -- dancing on a chair to the jackson 5... tango-ing with miss KIMberly to st. etienne, me trying to kiss my ex-boy while he ever-so-gently protested... um, that little lifting-up-the-skirt thing... oh dear. heh heh... i just had a great image of Trousers under un-suspecting girls' skirts. magnetic megan, whose tirades are definitely more endearing than bitchy (maybe it's those darn cute red sneakers that i remember from the NYC Frolic in the Cloisters), spoke words of wisdom with the following: > she's kind of like a girl in a belle and sebastian song, which > has lead me to the conclusion that they sound nice in songs, but > must be really, really annoying in real life. i don't really know any of those in real life. i just thought that was worth pointing out. um... PE stories... none of the girls in my class wanted to play sports really. well, there was that one girl who was a softball whiz, and really tall and good at basketball, but for the most part we all sat around spending more energy on avoiding playing than it would have taken to actually just suck it up and Try to kick the stupid ball. but when we did actually have to pick teams, i was last. out of the, you know, Five girls in our little catholic school class. i'm not traumatized. i was alternately meek and wicked in gym -- ducking for cover during dodgeball but wielding a hockey stick like a warrior in field hockey. B&S content: 1) box set = nice idea. i bought all of my ep's except 3.6.9 while in london, so i didn't have to shell out import prices. but lots of folks Do, so... i think it's a good thing. plus if jeepstah are offering the empty box for which to put yr already-bought ep's in, what's to complain about?? 2) box sex = even better 3) fucking hell, release the fucking new album already. genevieve wrote: > its not like Struan's pushed me into the wall and has got both my > arms pinned above my head,with only one of his hands,whispering > menacingly "You..will..buy..it" and I'm going "Bite me,jeepster > skank!" But he's just sooo strong.. oh yeah which is one of the sexiest things i've read in a while. oh this has gone on long enough. keep 'em comin'. xoxo, ma-ree ===== ************************************************************ "to me she was just marie." -mersault "hearts don't break/ the division is innate" -secret stars eliam at alleg.edu |littlearsonist at yahoo.com |AOLIM:LazyJane22 ************************************************************ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MM_KULIK at xxx.EDU Sat Jan 22 20:50:17 2000 From: MM_KULIK at xxx.EDU (MM_KULIK at xxx.EDU) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 15:50:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #25 Message-ID: <01JL0DWX14OI94K7SI@ACAD.FANDM.EDU> Unfortunately, as I must send this from the evilest of all computer applications, Telnet, I cannot create a witty subject line for this post. That's probably a good thing because my brain is fried after studying for my Polish language exam all day and I would have sat staring blankly at the screen for ages trying to think of one. So that's saved me some time. I wish everyone would stop telling me about all the snow they're getting in America right now because when I went home for the Christmas holiday (I'm studying in Glasgow now), there was no snow, and now I'm here and there's no snow here and there won't ever be, since it's Glasgow. WOE=ME. Speaking of Glasgow, I have to say that the 13th Note is one of my favorite places in the whole wide world. Anyone who lives in or has been to Glasgow (and also the 13th Note) will agree with me because it's one of those undeniable truths. They even have Polish beer, and though not everyone would be impressed by that, I was overwhelmingly sexcited about it. I drank it and it was good. I have no B&S content to offer. I just felt like writing and saying something because I've been silently pondering my class notes all day and not speaking, and anyone who knows me at all will testify that I find it difficult to keep my mouth shut when I have something to say. I can go on and on for ages. I hope everyone is having a fabulous weekend. Since it's exam week I will probably be confined to my desk most of the night, but I will make up for that next weekend. I do have something to look forward to on Monday, though -- I agreed to bleach my hair because my friend Richard said he would shave his head if I do it, so I must. I've always wanted to do it, but I was too scared. Now I have an excuse, and also a cop-out if it goes wrong -- 'it was a dare...' Take care, everybody!!! Moira xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sat Jan 22 21:00:05 2000 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 21:00:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: My Very Own World Message-ID: <005301bf651b$a9ca6800$84083c3e@default> I've just discovered how amazing Led Zepplin are. Now, B&S covering Stairway To Heaven would be a wet dream ;) --Jason "And in the rapture and the charm Came the tranquil and the calm" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Sat Jan 22 17:03:27 2000 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:03:27 -0500 Subject: Sinister: rhymes with iris References: <5f.6a4e9e.25b66f28@aol.com> Message-ID: <3889E2BF.B69B6AAF@utoronto.ca> a collection of bother and what-not from these last few days.. Mookitten: >What do you think is the best belle and sebby music for airporting? Or any >sort of music for that matter? I've always liked airports for some reason, >and belle and sebastian seems to go very well with that whole mod-airport >theme. Is this just me? I think I'll sit down and be quiet now.. sigh.. I am what is weird is that i know a kitten named moo. but anyway... i tend to be a traditionalist and stick with 'music for airports' just because its soooooooo specific. however, anything with an unsettling, antiseptic vibe to it really goes down big, computer world and trans europe express for example are also some of my favourite airport music. show room dummies is perfect for riding on moving sidewalks. also cat stevens is nice in airports too. but neil diamond really isnt. also, the makeup song 'international airport' isnt' that great for airports either i find.... i have signed on to score a film about airportism and i'm totally unsure as to what path to take. i could just fire up the synth and cut loose on the eno action, but that would seem so 'done'. if anyone has any good ideas please pass them along. Mark Cassarotto: >It hit me last night that Hefner have echoes of the Violent Femmes ("they >rape women" in French, it would seem, which is odd), who no-one ever talks >about on the list. Is it because in the states it conjures up an image of >frat boys singing Blister in the Sun when the kegs are flowing, or because >people just don't like them? I think they're fab. yes, i think that darran and gorno have rather similar voices, but musically i think they are worlds apart. the Femmes always had this post-punk thing going on, sort of like accoustic gang of four crossed with the feelies and as such i have never understood their appeal to the frat population; or even to the more dreaded 'camp person' population. the people with tragically hip t-shirts, hospital pants, tevas over socks and those little caps......oooooh my blood boils. Januarythaw at aol.com wrote: > try rhyming IRIS???? argh the only thing i can think of offhand is pious.and > even then you have to fiddle with the pronunciation to make it work. and i > don't want some fella writing me a poeme.... > > oh iris > she's so very pious since she caught that virus form that swarthy cyrus who nibbles papyrus thats it for me, rhyming isn't really what i'm good at. when my friends and i get drunk i'm always the worst freestyler... its true. i stick to beat-boxing, which i fancy i'm really good at. my squarepusher impression had them all in stiches last year, i was quite flattered. um, i have real work to do now living boldly and walking the shining path of righteousness steven kado +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From FrugalSyntax33 at xxx.com Sat Jan 22 22:43:29 2000 From: FrugalSyntax33 at xxx.com (FrugalSyntax33 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 17:43:29 EST Subject: Sinister: jupiter, the bringer of jollity... Message-ID: hello, my new dearest friends... this weekend has been a refreshing time for me. my friend and i went to cbgb's yesterday in nyc out of boredom and were of course the youngest ones there. we thought there might be an exciting show going on, but it turned out to be the 2nd rock 'n roll circus. the best way to describe it: weird. it started out with a sleater-kinney like band, which were decent, i have to admit. next came two random dancers, which lasted all of 2 minutes. i have to admit, it was hilarious to see people who wanted to go to the back of the club try to get past them. right after them was a "comedian" with a little jazz thing going on in the background, who was extremely annoying and frustrating. he held a "homeless doll" and had random rants on nothing. the people around me were making fun of him splendously though. it was more amusing than what was going on on stage. after this came another band called "2nd ex-beatle to die." they were horrible. i even blocked out the annoying repetitive line from their last song out of my memory, it was that bad. after this was a random woman who said that all girls should continue living their lives being submissive to men, and some of the women in the audience cheered. ack. the last band we saw were called "guttergirl." they were watchable at least, some good lyrics. i believe i started falling asleep at that point. it was midnight at that point and my friend and i were sadly forced to go back to long island, considering my parents decided to give me a curfew of 2 a.m. for once. i guess the cold drives some people crazy. oh yes, here are some parts of the show i left out: there were random movies playing during all of this "excitement." they were basically cheesy movies made by somebody from the club in the 80's. there were also "fitness" videos being played, which i gander were sad attempts to either be like pornos(but not, of course), or to parody them. sadly, neither attempt worked. i was also thrilled at being served alcohol, even though it was pretty weak and the person cut me off after the first drink. if she's a b&s fan and happens to be on this list, thank you very much. even though nobody would've known if i was drunk off my ass or not, for i have a pretty high tolerance level. :). so that was my exciting night last night. hope you enjoyed the account. i woke up this morning to hear my parents complaining about my lack of effort in school. they found out i've handed another paper in two days late and have grounded me from attending any shows such as cbgb's in the city until the next interim report comes out-which will be around two months. this hurts me dearly, considering i was really starting to like the idea of getting off my ass and leaving this computer and town during the weekends.. oh well, looks like i'm back to where i started. i guess i need some form of motivation, but this is just awful. somebody save me. please. i believe this has also helped me though. i've started to become interested in art again. i haven't felt this way since the summer...but i sort of lost my interest in everything since that time...i don't wish to go into that now, but i believe i'm finally becoming better now. i've looked at my favorite old art history textbooks(which happen to be mostly my mother's), i've regained my love for art, especially rococo. i'm going to the frick collection tomorrow with my mother. it should be fun, actually. i haven't been to a museum in months, sadly enough. as of this moment, i'm going to continue listening to the planets suite and look at more rococo art, woo. hope all of you darlings had fun reading this. amy. *erica wanted me to say this...her and honey are currently having a lesbian romp. meow! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sun Jan 23 08:41:30 2000 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 08:41:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: My Beautiful Friends Message-ID: <00ab01bf657d$a80ced00$300a3c3e@default> Hello Chums (said in an 80s Beano stylee) Well, some poor misguided soul has given me a list crush vote. I'm very honoured, but I just hope you never see my face or meet me - I wouldn't want to damage your expectations. *hugs* I bet it was just cos I mentioned 'wet dream' in a post. (And *no*, I'm not sending a pic to bodyparts ) I did a drawing of a fox this morning, it was very cute and twee, so I tried to make it even more so and ended up messing it up :( I *did* draw a rather nice Manga-style elf called Rebel though. He's leaning on thin air, don't you know.... Is it true that Jeepster (lovely people, lovely lovely people) are going to be selling the cover for the EPs seperately, so that all us folks who bought them beforehand can marvel at it's glory? I was looking nostalgically at M.A.S.K. and Thundercats sites this morning. Kids today don't know what they're missing, really they don't. Still, nothing compares to original Transformers cartoons ;) (well, maybe Jase And The Twee Warriors) My Beastie Boys calander tells me that we fast approach the end of January. Wasn't that a bloody fast month. Almost as fast as a Road Runner on speed, but not quite, cos nothing runs *quite* as fast as Road Runner ;) I think I'm in a cartoon obsession mode today ;) *Unwraps his ACME jetpack* See you all later, I'm off! *Crashes ACME jetpack into overhang, overhang falls on him, hammering him into to ground. He appears in the next scene unhurt, trudging off into the sunset* Meep! Meep! --Jason "And in the rapture and the charm Came the tranquil and the calm" ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boucherphilip at xxx.com Sun Jan 23 11:04:22 2000 From: boucherphilip at xxx.com (Philip Boucher) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 11:04:22 GMT Subject: Sinister: general ramblings Message-ID: <20000123110422.31660.qmail@hotmail.com> sinister after a double whammey of school report, then parents evening all within 3 days i am only allowed to see my friends on a saturday for 4 hours! That is one of my mothers biggest overreactions, but i told her i needed some books for school so i can go and see my friend and her cousin, on holiday from ireland, and get money for the books. The biggest problem will be when i return from the cinema with no money and no books. To make a word rhyme with iris, you could conjoin two words, like dry-kiss, or fly-bliss. I wish i could go to the airport enough to have favorite airport music, i love going to Manchester airport, but i never get to fly, its not fair. Belle and Sebastian night at the star and garter is this friday night, i want to go, but the Smashing Pumpkins gig, meant to be last Friday was cancelled, and i think it might be re-scheduled for this friday. Apparently they caught the flu (Like anyone who comes to Manchester) but i also heard that they might be splitting up. Roumers will fly, but i kinda hope they do, my ticket was �20, and the refund will come in handy because i have run out of money. My Belle and Sebastian shirt arrived yesterday, its a funny material, it always seems to be wet for some reason. Despite what i have heard on this list, i think it fits fine. The only problem being that it is bright orange (I got the clydeside hunt one with isobel and the fox) i think i want the bus one now, much more tame. In my school we are lucky enough to not get PE teams picked, we just go and hang about, occasionally our drunk 'teacher' tries to sort out a game of rugby, but because its so cold outside we go on strike and he returns to his bottle. Unfortunately now we have a supply teacher, because our teacher has been suspended for alcaholism, and he tries to make us play badminton, but we still don't have to pick teams. keep them coming sinistarians, Phip ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SlowRobot at xxx.com Sun Jan 23 16:38:56 2000 From: SlowRobot at xxx.com (blair hicks) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 08:38:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: dirty post number 2 Message-ID: <5147301.948645536571.JavaMail.imail@bubbles.excite.com> dear sinsisterians, jason spoke thus: "I was looking nostalgically at M.A.S.K. and Thundercats sites this morning. Kids today don't know what they're missing, really they don't. Still, nothing compares to original Transformers cartoons ;)" not to delve back too deeply into the much abashed "what we watched as children" discussions, i must pledge my agreement with jason. in fact, i run a transformers trivia mailing list out of a friend's web page. each week a new query is sent out, and the first correct response is rewarded with some insanely silly prize. any of you sinster folk interested in 80 cartoon lore are welcome to drop me an electronic line. as for b&s content, i am wondering if the reissued EPs will be also be put out by matador here in the states, or will they be jeepster only. as i know little of how such things work, i am wondering if we will in the states will still have to pay import prices for the resissue. so shall end my second post. not very charming, but teeming with potential. fondly, blair _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freeworld.excite.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachel at xxx.uk Sun Jan 23 20:01:30 2000 From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:01:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: i can't ever think of good subject lines...and this one's no different Message-ID: <001f01bf65dc$a4eeff00$a185883e@preinstalledco> hello to you all, and especially the two of you who have made me your list crush! -you know who you are, and i know who *one* of you is...;-) i went out last night. this is not a reason for posting in itself, though it has become a bit of a rare occurrence lately, y'know, lack of money, boyf, stitch to wear, that kind of thing. anyway, i was dancing the night away (3 primal scream songs! wicked!) like you do, everyone getting into it, when the dj plays the new oasis single. i have never seen a dance floor clear so rapidly. those who couldn't get into the bar stood around sullenly, topping up on their nicotine levels. obviously i permitted myself a small chuckle - how the mighty have fallen and all that - but looking around, i was saddened. i owe oasis quite a lot. stop sniggering! before they swaggered into my life i was completely unaware of music that wasn't take that, nkotb, kylie etc. and yeah, my love for take that is everlasting, but oasis...they opened doors, expanded horizons. they were mind blowing. it was a brief but passionate affair. i only own 'definitely maybe' and a handful of singles, i was already bored of the band by '...morning glory'. it's been hilarious to watch their collapse. but still...i owe them, they deserve more than a patronising sneer from me. oh well, i'm sure noel & liam aren't bothered... meanwhile, alexander borgia, i take my hat off to you. to make my already smutty post (though, i hasten to add, it wasn't exactly *my* smut) even smuttier is a triumph! i look forward to more quality analysis from bear, bear, bear, and nephew, and son... lovin' and leavin' you rachel xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather-boa at xxx.com Sun Jan 23 21:19:09 2000 From: feather-boa at xxx.com (feather boa) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 13:19:09 -0800 Subject: Sinister: randomness Message-ID: hello. i'm *nice*. i live in london and this is my first time posting on sinister. i'm a bit nervous and i'm not as cool as everyone else. i had a dream yesterday that i posted and it didn't show up. i once dreamed that my parents went away on holiday and left me in the care of stuart david, who ran a twee cafe down the road. and it was a summer evening and i had to get to the cafe before 8:30 for my boiled egg and soldiers. and then i played scrabble with stuart murdoch. i read nalda said this week and i thought it was brilliant, and it had echoes of beloved by toni morrison, which is a good thing. if you read melody maker, i've had some letters printed in it as feather boa. but the only interesting one was about when i heard b&s in kfc (tbwtas), i thought it was nick drake at first. i think they go less well with kfc than starbucks because at least starbucks makes an effort to be slightly random. pip pip, FB X --- man is least himself when he talks in his own person. give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. oscar wilde *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From CrimsonKing at xxx.net Sun Jan 23 22:51:24 2000 From: CrimsonKing at xxx.net (Shaft) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:51:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm so happy Message-ID: <20000123225124.TNZR7433@LOCALNAME> Hello all. I've been on the Sinister list since very near its inception, yet this is the first time I've posted in probably a year-and-a-half. But I've a very good reason to today. I'm going to London for the first time ever in March!!!! So I'd like to ask all of the London Sinister members out there what some cool things for B&S fans to do are that perhaps you wouldn't read about in travel brochures, Select, or NME. I'll be there from March 17th until March 22nd. Are there any good shows that week? I read about a new club in Select called Track and Field--is that cool? Feel free to write me at this address so as not to annoy the other list members. Thanks- Andy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From adam_dbt at xxx.com Mon Jan 24 00:00:43 2000 From: adam_dbt at xxx.com (Adam Dobrodt) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:00:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: dirty post number 2 Message-ID: <20000124000043.10678.qmail@web1608.mail.yahoo.com> hello all, this post, surprisingly, only contains b+s content. in response to blair's questioning the price of the E.P. boxset, i checked on amazon.com and saw that it is going to cost about $20. while a bit high for 12 songs, it is a HUGE improvent over the 36 dollars you'd probably spend on the imports. anyway, thats it... "i will for all my travels sinister be..." adam d. -------+ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MooKitten at xxx.com Mon Jan 24 00:48:39 2000 From: MooKitten at xxx.com (MooKitten at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:48:39 EST Subject: Sinister: asleep and dreaming.. Message-ID: hello sinisterines, thanks to everyone with their airport music suggestions.. I ended up listening to the magnetic fields "69 love songs" (one of the most brilliant albums), and momus "20 vodka jellies on the train to DC.. which was sooo verry loong.. I got on the train at 5am after being awake with aforementioned friend from Chicago who flew in around midnight on Friday night/morning depending, and I still haven't slept. The concert was absolutely wonderful, as was the venue.. the combined music of stephin merrit and the white christmas lights hanging from the ceiling gave the ambitious notion of being lost in a hazy room of disembodied stars. I found myself wondering if it was that wonderful when B&S played there. And yes megan, the STARS were magnificent as well. I bought one of their cds at the end of their set after meeting several charming people, including an intoxicating girl named Rhonda who had been there before to see B&S, and enthusiastically proclaimed the glory of finding TBWTAS on the jukebox in the bar part of the venue. Andy fox will have to tell me how the instore went tho, because as we showed up my very un-twee (her own self description) friend was frightened by the people in the Now! Music and Fashion store and we left just as stephin was carrying things into the store.. but I said hello. sniffle.. Are we intimidating, sinister people? I don't think so.. Alright.. that's enough un-related list content to disturb our list mummy.. so I'll try and get some sleep now. And if I've anymore magnetic fields overload to send out, I'll just write a mail to mr.adam apparatus. ;) goodnight, Katie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Mon Jan 24 01:27:11 2000 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 01:27:11 BST Subject: Sinister: posting drunk again Message-ID: <8AC11A444FB@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> except that its only 1:15 am and already i'm starting to get a hangover. this evening i have mostly been trying to convince xes in the nicest possible way that i don't want to sleep with them. there are worse problems to have i suppose let me get my business out of the way, the lust crush (sic) machine doesn't seem to be working properly. the bit where it says all votes scarily resembles the this month bit, this particularly bothers me as i had a vote before (ooooh a whole vote, i need to be more prolific (yes i am ungrateful, i want to be universally adored)) has anyone ever been sat in the pub / anywhere else and realised that they were the only person in their group of assosciates not taking some kind of medication for depression? i had this realisation a few days ago and it seemed to me to be a sad indictment of the time we live in, i don't think i need to say more, but the people i was hanging out with really have no need for anti-depressants, just because they get upset now and again. oooh, that annoys me. i can vouch for laura llew's comment about chris_t_opher being a sweetheart, he helped me when i first started using the internet and email and stuff, and look at me now!?! i want to continue, i really do, i used to write such good posts, but i'm falling asleep as we speak, i shall see you all again soon my sinister darlings, take care with your jaffa cakes, fiona ....born to lose everyone i choose, its always so.... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Mon Jan 24 03:05:53 2000 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:05:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: my oh my Message-ID: hello again sinisterkids i got 20 (gentle) lashes with a wet noodle from honey for spilling the news of my bodypart to the list, so i've decided to publicly apologize for what i did. i was under the impression that it was voluntarily anonymous. so, my bad. sorry honey. and if any of you are thinking of telling the list which part of your body is being displayed up there, please don't. so that was a bit heavy. um. on to more boring but relevant topics. THE BOX SET / SINGLE PRICES so i don't really care about the EP boxed set, simply because i have them all. and i don't know what some of you are talking about with these outrageous prices you're declaring for the EPs in the US. i bought all of 'em for somewhere around $6 apeice, and thought it was that way everywhere. but it appears that a lot of you are paying closer to $10 for each. which is embarrasingly high, especially since i believe matador has released all of them domestically. of course, all of mine are jeepster copies, so i could be wrong about that. and about them being hard to find -- i had very little trouble finding them even at the local crap record stores out here in western massachusetts. but i'll stop talking about that now. LIST CRUSH TROUBLE no, i'm not going to complain about list crush votes, i was actually going to step in (and hopefully not step on any toes) and help out some of you who think you've been losing your votes. it wasn't immediately apparent to me, but the main list crush page only shows the top 10. if you want to see them all, there's a link at the top to do so. i was confused about it myself, thinking it was rather odd that it looked as though people were losing votes, when i figured that wouldn't happen on the "all time" chart. then i noticed that it was only showing people with names starting with A through C. d'oh. then i figured it out. so i guess that makes me a smartie. but, knowing my luck, you've all figured that out long ago and i'm wasting space writing about it, and makes me a dummy. um. "and i'll tell you, with my tongue between your toes, if there's ever anyone else, don't let them do this." -- tindersticks, "jism" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Mon Jan 24 07:24:27 2000 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:24:27 PST Subject: Sinister: Not well at all/armpits/tits Message-ID: <20000124072427.8204.qmail@hotmail.com> INTRODUCTION Hello. I'm Jarkko, 22 years old. I live in Helsinki, Finland. I like football, aerobic and I like to go out with my dog. I'm cute too. When I grow up, I want to be a famous person. If I were to be chosen as the "Model of the Milleninnnnihrrugum", I'd make the world a better place. But I think you know these facts about me, so I'll move on. PARTYPEOPLE Throw your hands in the air like you just don't care. A bit like me. See, at the moment my left hand is up. It's hard to type with just one hand. Anyhow, as I said, my other hand is up, and I'm throwing it. And I don't give a flying fuck. So there. Happy now? VOTING Got myself a vote on the listcrush. And I actually know who voted me. Or I'm pretty sure about it. Pretty. A bit like me. I find it funny that people try to act shy and get symphatyvotes like that. Well I'm not falling into that one. Vote for me you fucks, or otherwise I'm going to kick your fucking head in. Think I'm just joking? Well fuck off you cunt, I'm not. So vote for me. Vote. Vote. Vote. DRUNK BEHAVIOR. It's 9.11 am at the moment, I'm at work and I'm still drunk from last evening. Grate. I should do some work or write these two gigreviews. And I'm writing to sinister. Burb. ART Like the t-shirt says: fuck art, let dance. I fucking hate art. As a subject, that is. But I don't dance. So I should have a shirt that says fuck art, fuck dance. Artistic people bore me. I'm artistic, so I bore myself. I'm a dick. Hmm. This mail is getting a bit too Charles Bukowski-like. JEEPSTER Box-set? Fucking rip off. But I'm not bying it, so I'm not complaining. Martin my man, the idea that there should be a printable version that you could download from the net and not play a dime, that's ace. COFFEE I just finished my third cup of coffee. In 20 minutes. Try and beat that. You can't. Quess who's going to regret sending this. @--->--- Jake le PetitE, who's had better days in his life. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_leak at xxx.uk Mon Jan 24 08:04:06 2000 From: chris_leak at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?CHRIS=20LEAK?=) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 08:04:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Whoooo? Message-ID: <20000124080406.19066.qmail@web1304.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Went to yer standard indie schmindie club in Preston on Friday night (Roper Hall), asked the DJ for a B&S tune and was told that he didn't dare!! read in to that what you will. Has anyone seen the film happiness? Good film but STREUTH!! it's a bit uncomfortable to watch in places. Bless Leaky ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Mon Jan 24 11:17:26 2000 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:17:26 -0000 Subject: Sinister: finally, things to do Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB699D812B@park_ex> ello my leeetle choooms hurrah and huzzah, my first exciting week of the year beckons. So far it's been, go to work, come home, sit on couch, watch telly, go to bed, get up, go to work etc, but this week there are GIGS, PAR-TAYS, EXCITING TRIPS TO LUN-DING and most importantly PAY DAY. I am going to see elastica on thursday, and it will be my FIRST GIG OF THE YELL!ENNIUM, oh apart from seeing my mates bands on wednesday. Sigh, there are NO GIGS in Cheltenham any more, might have to move to Oxford. In amazing circularity i notice that mistopher chris is being referred to as chris lynyrd, as in lynryd skynryd (sp?, I know there's no vowels), AND, AND, L S took their name from THEIR P.E. TEACHER. Circles within circles, wheels within wheels etc. I am looking forwarded to saying hello to everyone at the pocaff on friday nite. Mrs Carsmile is coming too. On a similarly mr trousers related note, when listening to "you're just a baby girl" i find myself singing "I won't be there, juicy, you go off your head" and thinking of ms. alder. Just me then, OK. (not that lucy's off her head or anything). Anyone who is interested in kids programmes of our youth should take a trip to http://www.sausagenet.co.uk which has like a zillion links to lots of very very sad sites about button moon etc and lots of theme tunes to download. There, that should keep them happy for a while. I'm sure there's a sociology thesis in why we are compelled to discuss kids programmes (I seem to have been having the conversation on and off since I left home and came to college). I think it's got something to do the only shared memories coming from the TV, especially when you move away and meet a whole new bunch of people (although there's always one person who's favourite programme no one else has heard of cos it was only on BBC Rutland). Anyway, I've got a new favourite pub nostalgia conversation "The Computers We Owned As Children", which i don't think needs any elaboration....(please) xoxo CarsmileSteve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.alder at xxx.uk Mon Jan 24 11:24:58 2000 From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:24:58 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Fishmongers, cheesemongers, gossipmongers Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F3352C9F@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk> Howdy-doody friends. Monday moring, then, and am I in the mood for doing any work whatsoever? Am I heck! I am extremely excited, however, at the thought that this time next week I will have a new pooter at work complete with a screen no thicker than 2 inches and a CD drive so I can listen to moosik all day long. Hurrah! Life can be good now and again. Another reason why life is good - I have a new mattress - hurrah! My old mattress resembled a large fishfinger without the breadcrumbs, fishiness or fresh-from-the-freezer chill. In other words, it was a bit narrow. It also had these big springy things (that's right, springs) sticking out all over it - visible to the naked eye and rather painful to the naked thigh. After a year and two months in my house, I've finally persuaded the landlord that I needed a new one and it arrived in all it's glory on Saturday morning. Unfortunately, the doorbell rang while I was in all my glory under the shower, so the delivery boy and his little helper, 7 year old Nathan in an Arsenal (scum) shirt, were treated to the delightful sight of me dripping wet with last night's mascara running down my cheeks. And oooh, that mattress is a lovely thing, firm yet slightly yielding to the touch, with not a spring in sight. Unfortunately, it still resembles a large fishfinger without the breadcrumbs, fishiness or fresh-from-the-freezer chill, but I'm so well practised in the art of narrow slumber that I could sleep on a razor-blade and still maintain my balance* And moving on in a smooth-as-silk link from beddybyes to sweet dreams, I had my first Sinister Dream last night. This is what happened: I was at work, reading my emails and there was a post from Steve Kado. And, um, that's it. Steve, mate, I'm not sure exactly how you wangled your way into my dreams, but well done! It's a very difficult thing to do. Normally, my dreams involve chocolate, burglers or things sticking into me (presumably linked to the fact that I've been lying on a fishfinger). Is the Beck discussion dead and buried? Oh, well can I add my ha'pennyworth? Cheers. You see, I bought his new album last week and I'm of the opinion that it's a bit pants. Having heard all the Prince comparisons, I'll admit that it does all sound a wee bit purplepaisley, but more worringly, it seems to have big, hairy Lenny Kravitz footprints all over it. And to me, that's not a terribly attractive thing, no, not at all. And the lyrics make him sound like a two-a-penny cheesemonger. Well, anyway, that's what I think. Finally, HELLO GEORGE DICKIE! I've missed you. Will you write more often? Please? Eagerly awaiting drunken Matt's appearance in next week's Melody Maker... Juicy Lucy *possibly =================================================== This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Mon Jan 24 12:05:15 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 04:05:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20000124120515.24570.qmail@web603.mail.yahoo.com> *oh blimey. exam TODAY!!! SHIT!! ANyone out there know about post modernism and feminism and ethnicity and stuff? Anyone look like me? anyone have both these qualities and able to speed off to Norwich at high speed and pretend to be me in my exam?I know its cheating, but I'll give a tenner to whoever gets me a decent grade. *Got freaked out last night, dreamt the devil had posessed my soul and I was beating up the people that I know and love. Oops. *feeling tired. too many odd dreams last night and even odder noises. *not feeling twee at all. Phew. *been busy thinking about shopping. Why are there no decent shops in Norwich? Hmm? Someone with a cool and yet slightly quirky sense of style and money come and open up a shop in Norwich for me and sell cool things. I need somewhere to spend my money. *Don't care about the crish Lust anymore. Actually, don't care about much at the moment. Bought a magazine yesterday and flicked through it and it was dull. Why are womens magazines based upon castration fear? *bored. *bet it shows, eh? ===== visit the idle site:www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/5117 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Mon Jan 24 13:22:22 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:22:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Bums In-Reply-To: <6b.6b97178a.25aa13f2@aol.com> Message-ID: Some stuff: kerry sez: > i got 20 (gentle) lashes with a wet noodle from honey for spilling the > news of my bodypart to the list, so i've decided to publicly apologize > for what i did. i was under the impression that it was voluntarily > anonymous. Sorry to lash you with my pasta Kerry, I thought it was more of a tickle. Especially with you standing in the cold without your sweater on poor thing, you must be freezing by now. She's right actually I did say "unless you blab" on the WWW page, and forgot - sorry. But I do like them being anonymous: I see it as an experiment at the fringes of human exhibitionism, and jolly well it's going too. Mind you, you've got competition now Kerry, of an arty variety... I notice no boys have sent rude things in, apart from one rather pert and shadowy bottom. I think this tells us a lot. I'm promised something unpleasant from a buddhist in Newcastle, so you can all thank your lucky stars he doesn't have a scanner and Damon has nothing (yet) to "enforce" in that direction. pookie sez: > And Miss Honey means it too! Goodness..see what happens if you try and > flip her skirt up... and you're not getting a bodypart from that one, I can promise you. Apart from the one there already. And what was I doing on a sofa with Stuart Murdoch in my best sunday dress, Sweetie? See me after class :) jarkko sez: > Since the listcrush-thingy is up again, I thought I'd write. Arf. Like > the new idea that when two people vote each other you get to know your > crush. And I found a way to find out it every time someone votes you! > All you have to do is vote every single person on the sinister list. > Easy. Eh? Only 1200 mails to send. Miss Crush asked me to pass this on: "Dear Jarkko. You said you've found a great way to find out who your crush is. Do you think I get paid a 6 figure salary for nothing? I won't let you vote more than once a day, and like tarts such as Damon have found out, you can't vote for more than one person at a time. I know this might be rough justice for people who are prepared to confess bisexuality (come on admit it) and people who go for anything that walks, but it's a rule for exactly this reason. I might introduce a "bisexual" command which will allow you two votes at the cost of having your name in big flashing lights on the WWW page as such. You'll just have to wait and see. Wasn't that you I saw at the bus stop on Friday with your flies undone? Love Miss Crush xxx" Hey and it might not be as sexy (yet) but the Sinister library remains stuffed full of some prize novellas - do visit it at: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/library and do send in any stories you have. There honestly are some great little stories there, some about eating severed parts of the body, some about 80s pop stars in space. Ages ago Gui sez: > hello, > So-called musicians will love that... > http://www.britpoptabs.com/ and I was disturbed to go there and see that said WWW person had borrowed them from the Sinister chords page, changed a few words from upper to lower case and forgotten to mention all you chumbags who'd actually written them, instead referring spookily to "the author". Divine justice has now prevailed. Even longer ago Jenny sez: > actually, my old primary teacher was called > Miss Honey, like in Matilda and all that, and she was really nice and > lovely and always made sure our milk wasn't warm and things.ok , so i > feel a childhood regression coming on...... Oo regress all you like, that's what the Internet's for! Yesterday in the chatroom I was asked to sew name tags on two P.E. kits, so it's pretty accurate. Incidentally you know, the chat channel's a right old giggle, you must come. If you've never been, instructions at: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/#chat The other night Ms "If You're Feeling Sinister" popped in, and last week I'm sure Stuart David did. Well he was called "MrBigOne" and kept asking "r u sexy?", resorting to capitals when he got no reply, so I'm pretty sure it was him. archel sez: > also watched 'the umbrellas of cherbourg' again. it's dead good, you know. And she was dead right. Tara, Miss Honey, Jenny's teacher xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 9905418B at xxx.uk Mon Jan 24 13:38:01 2000 From: 9905418B at xxx.uk (Roderick Brannan) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:38:01 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Where does the summer go? Message-ID: Hey beautiful people! I should be studying for a Scottish history exam, but I find that thought as appealing as suffering a multitude of paper-cuts to my back, then having salt rubbed in. Instead, I am here. I now own my first B&S garment - the blue dot-tastic t-shirt. My girlf thinks I'm sad, but my wee brother thinks it's grand. I am also of the latter opinion. Does anyone else have a pathological fear of Moomins? Someone, I apologise for not knowing who, mentioned Todd Solondz's wonderful film "Happiness". It is a truly grand piece of work and everyone (well maybe not everyone, I don't think 98 year olds or young children would find the subject matter to their liking) should see it. I once had a dream where I fought about three hundred Moomins at once. I bought tickets to see Beck at the Armadillo in March. The new stuff may be pseudo-purple but it will be worth it if he does a live version of Truck Drivin' neighbour downstairs, which I sincerely doubt he will do. Ah well. Anybody know what the chorus to "Loser" actually says, y'know - the bit before "I'm a loser baby, so why don't you kill me." So these Moomins were coming at me wave after wave and I was beating the living shit out of all them for they were made of marshmallow, and my punches were destroying them with the greatest of ease. On that note I shall depart. Young Roddy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From windisch24 at xxx.com Mon Jan 24 16:33:41 2000 From: windisch24 at xxx.com (mike windisch) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 08:33:41 PST Subject: Sinister: everybody get slutty Message-ID: <20000124163341.41567.qmail@hotmail.com> happy monday all, many pleasant (and a few decadantly pleasurable) experiences occurred to me this past weekend. If you're afraid of fun or leery of the self-absorbed pompous ass that comprises a significant portion of windisch's persona, steer clear of this here weekend rebriefing. Foremost in b&s related appeal regards the fortunate fact that I've found my very own girls who've "got a house that's like a caravan" a' la string bean jean. And, truth be told, everytime we all go round it is like a holiday (significantly more bacchanalian than say groundhog day, president's day, and several of the lesser Amish festivals, but nothing on par with cinqo d' mayo, fourth of july or new year's eve.) Waking up at 190 Angell saturday morning nestled in the warm arms of spritely sweet and sleeping mari fujiuchi gave me a chance to reflect on the fun we had friday night whilst partaking in a humorously whiskey-inspired swing dance to the ripping blues sounds of my friend's dad's band. Elsewhere in the club, my swarthy five point nine* friends wooed, whooped and grab-assed (according to their individual charm and/or lack of tact) the other lovlies from the Angell caravan. mari and myself engaged in a marathon smooch from the what-seemed-secluded-enough-at-the-time bench seating that flanked that dancefloor. Little were we aware that our little make-out hideout was in all actuality a center-stage spectacle as visible to the band as it was the other patrons of the bar and all of our friends. Whoops. Good thing it was late and everyone was sauced (and presumably self-absorbed with their own romances or boozey commiserations)or we probably would have made somebody jealous with the fun we were having. *five point nine is a rhode island social phenomenon consisting of a lunatic sect of skateboarders, copious quantities of booze, and non-stop shenanigans that can best be described as stunt-ridden-improvizational-comedy-cum-unpretensious-performance art* Saturday afternoon in the secret theatre I got dirty with volunteerism while helping my hometown artfag crew winterize their studio-performance-speakeasy space. Prior to sealing the windows on a 40 foot square skylight 10 cubits above the floor, I was asked to use my lanky sprawl to secure a ridiculously huge sheet of plastic wrap from blowing away under the hot breath of the heater. What ribald talk and freaky fantasies we spun imagining the number of jelly-filled danishes (and non-sinisters alike) we could wrap up in that big perverted piece of plastic wrap. Oh the innuendo, the double entendre and the excessive use of the word schupt that went down. any righteous person would have blushed so heavily that they burst into flames. Afterwards, in new london media mogul dickie marteen's pad we listened to the test copy of the indy-rock compiliation that was pulled together from bands that played the temporary autonomous zone before it was defunct. (would it be correct to say while it was funct?) I had trouble coming up with a tactfull way to say that most of the songs sucked, so I said nothing and talked local color with some guy i just met. ?? has anyone else come across this sort of situation where you really want to support the industry of your friends but for the love of god cannot seem to find anything appealing in the product ?? I'd like to wrap up this criminally indulgent post by thanking the lass who squeeled to miss crush that the she had the hots for me and to implore all those who refuse to dance that they cannot conceive of the fun to be had while making a spectacular ass of yourself. keeping the sin in sinister mike windisch ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Mon Jan 24 16:37:47 2000 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 08:37:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: re: box set Message-ID: <20000124163747.29796.qmail@web2003.mail.yahoo.com> box set of the first 3 eps? i don't see the point. there's only a very small corner of the market that'll be even vaguely interested. someone said the box set will make things easier for people to discover belle and sebastian. doesn't make sense. nobody's going to splash out nearly 30 bucks on a box set by someone they haven't heard before, they'll buy one of the eps, risking maybe $10 and go from there. if they like it they'll continue with the others, if they don't then at least they haven't spent much. anybody who has even one of the old eps isn't going to bother with the box set cos of the duplication involved. this is the reason i never bothered with the galaxie 500 box set or the this mortal coil one even though they both contained new material - 30 quid for 3 cds that i already had plus one that i didn't. makes no sense. (and if they do include new material on the cds just to force people to buy the box set then they are evil) if they insist on selling all the eps in one go then put them all on one disk - uses a lot less in the way of resources and is just more convenient for everybody. put the new artwork on the front of this compilation rather than waste more resources on a box to go around them all. and selling the box (slipcase, whatever) on it's own? why? maybe i should buy one just to make sure that they'll no longer fit on the shelf next to all the others. i think it's safe to say that we'd all rather have something new instead. what is it, a year now? can't find the eps in LA? my girlfriend did easily enough. try aron's. it's in the yellow pages. they'll order any that they don't have in stock. poetry cafe friday: is the bloke from trigger happy tv going to be in the basement reciting his tribute to the number 5,000,000? he can't have finished yet. got new years eve photos back last week. they're dreadful. andy how's my ranting? call 1-800-bugupass ===== andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jenny at xxx.uk Mon Jan 24 21:06:21 2000 From: jenny at xxx.uk (Jenny Hodgson) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:06:21 -0000 Subject: Sinister: ms honey schoolmarm.... Message-ID: <005401bf66ae$de6273c0$02000003@f1s0w9> so, i packed up my knapsack, and decided not to be daunted by kitten heels, or in jokes and dare to post once again to this marvellous facility. actually what prompted me was thoughts of dear honey taking double maths at a primary school in deepest yorkshire.... there was a veritable mountain of shiny apples on his desk every single morning, and he'd demonstrate the merits of long division using only his hold-ups and glasses on a plastic gold chain as props...ah the memories... hm, however this was all stopped when in came mrs clarke to take us for algebra, after honey began inviting tim from the 6th form round to tea and cakes of an evening...i think it was the rich father and football kit that did it...and mrs clarke always wore trousers.. so, box set eh?well, i for one will be plonking my coppers on the counter and waiting whilst the proprietor of my local indiepop record retail outlet counts them and curses under his breath.because lets face it, who wouldn't give money to the cause helping the belles keep in bus fare and scratchy fountain pens...and hairslidesandflaresand that newFisherPrice toy xylophone i saw last saturday whilst perusing the aisles of Toys R Us, ...good echo and nice blue plastic 'stick things that you bash the metal bits with' (i always called, and indeed call them 'bashing thingys' i suppose there must be a scientific term..) if any of you are interested.... but, on a relevant note (blimey!) stuart is not going to force you to buy them (however much you'd like him to ;))so i'm not sure they've quite sold their soul to the devil and the deep blue sea as yet.... although i'd watch out for them in matching lycra costumes (stop gawping and drooling at the back there) and endorsing tweeflakes breakfast cereal.which would no doubt rot your teeth terribly and make children not eat their dinner....but what a lovely way to gain the facility of dentures...talking of dentures, i seem to fondly remember honey one cold afternoon demonstrating Hamlet via his slightly off-colour dentistry. but thats an entire other story...(i have enough material here with honey's teaching career to go on all night) *****false teeth aren't included in the bodyparts page..right?oh dearie me... love jen (the other one) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boucherphilip at xxx.com Mon Jan 24 21:26:49 2000 From: boucherphilip at xxx.com (The Vicar) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:26:49 GMT Subject: Sinister: Don't read this- I'm bored Message-ID: <20000124212649.70355.qmail@hotmail.com> Sinistarians, Don't say i never warned you, Has anyone noticed how lots of people an the crush page are on hotmail? Im on hotmail. I feel left out. Then I see my curley hair on the photo page, and feel like part of a crowd again. Cheers honey. How bored am I? Vic. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stray4f at xxx.net Mon Jan 24 19:36:36 2000 From: stray4f at xxx.net (===) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:36:36 -0500 Subject: Sinister: re: box set Message-ID: <200001242255.RAA128984@pimout8-int.prodigy.net> ---------- >From: andrew dean >box set of the first 3 eps? i don't see the point. >there's only a very small corner of the market that'll >be even vaguely interested. It doesn't seem B&S are overly concerned with large corners of any market, judging by the way they have handled themselves so far. That doesn't mean something isn't worth doing. The number of people who bother to mail in to them to order buttons, t-shirts, or posters is a small group I would imagine, but they choose to make those items because they want to, not for you to see or not see some point in it. > >someone said the box set will make things easier for >people to discover belle and sebastian. doesn't make >sense. nobody's going to splash out nearly 30 bucks on >a box set by someone they haven't heard before, >they'll buy one of the eps, risking maybe $10 and go >from there. if they like it they'll continue with the >others, if they don't then at least they haven't spent >much. In the US, at least, there are tens of thousands of people who have bought the albums through Matador's distribution. The EPs were previously only avalable as imports, which meant that few stores carried them and when they did they were $10 to $12 each. Rather than spending $30 to $36 for them seperately at one of the few stores in the states to carry them all (Aarons and Rhino in LA, Other Music and Kim's in NYC, and a store or two in each college town or big city) you will be able to buy all three for under $20, with a slip case with new artwork. I don't imagine they are expecting to sell them to people who haven't heard the band before, but there are tons of people in the US who have and adore TBWTAS, IYAFS, and Tigermilk who haven't had access to the EP's yet and might buy them in that under $20 format. > >anybody who has even one of the old eps isn't going to >bother with the box set cos of the duplication >involved. this is the reason i never bothered with the >galaxie 500 box set or the this mortal coil one even >though they both contained new material - 30 quid for >3 cds that i already had plus one that i didn't. makes >no sense. (and if they do include new material on the >cds just to force people to buy the box set then they >are evil) > To avoid the risk of die hard fans buying the set at $20 just for the new cover slip, the band and labels are selling that cover slip seperate at a negligable cost. I don't know of any other band or label that has had the foresight to be this considerate at avoiding taking advantage of completists and devoted fans. >if they insist on selling all the eps in one go then >put them all on one disk - uses a lot less in the way >of resources and is just more convenient for >everybody. put the new artwork on the front of this >compilation rather than waste more resources on a box >to go around them all. > There are obvious aesthetic and conceptual reasons for preserving them as seperate EP's. They were recorded, conceived of, and released at different times at different sessions as records with a beginning, middle, and end and artwork specific to them. How would you sequence them? In chronological order? I can't imagine a more awkward segue than going from "Century of Elvis" to "Century of Fakers". As far as jamming them all together somehow using less resources and being "convenient", there are obvious reasons to keep them as seperate entities, as they were released. You could have shoved them onto the end of the Tigermilk CD, but it would have ruined the flow of that album and each of the EPS. >and selling the box (slipcase, whatever) on it's own? >why? maybe i should buy one just to make sure that >they'll no longer fit on the shelf next to all the >others. So that fans who want the cover for whatever reason don't have to waste money and resources on duplicate copies of the music, just as you were whining about a few lines above. >i think it's safe to say that we'd all rather have >something new instead. what is it, a year now? Sure, and when it is ready I imagine the band will release something. In the meantime why not make the great songs and sleeves of the EP's available to those who haven't been exposed to them or chose not to buy them at high prices in the past? My favorite release by them has always been the "3.6.9..." EP, and the idea of tens of thousands of people who couldn't easily hear it before now having better access to it without it being crammed in the middle of some awkward compilation that seemed to start and stop three times in one listen is great. > >can't find the eps in LA? my girlfriend did easily >enough. try aron's. it's in the yellow pages. they'll >order any that they don't have in stock. >andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) Aarons and Rhino in LA carry the Ep's, yes. You can also get them any day in the Lower East Side of Manhattan. The remaining thousands of square miles of the US are a lot trickier. Having Matador distribute them, as well as having them come out as a new release with reviews, articles, and displays will bring them to a lot of fans in the States who haven't been exposed to them yet. If you can't understand it, simply don't buy it. You missed out on some great music on that Galaxie 500 box set as well, but so it goes.... Regards, Lance Bangs +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Tue Jan 25 00:27:25 2000 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:27:25 BST Subject: Sinister: cheese - the one for me! Message-ID: <8C3108E4F24@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> can't remember if i've used that subject line before, but i know you'll forgive me. today i have read a big pile of posts and am prepared to comment, although don't expect me to remember who any of them were written by, so i'm apologising in advance for the lack of acknowledgments. oooh! the violent femmes! yum! i have yet to meet anyone in britain who will confess to liking them. the very mention takes me back to a school exchange to a small town in virginia, where blister in the sun blasted from the car stereo, parked on a high school sports field, as we got drunk on nasty american beer and threw the empty cans at the wall. oooh, how dangerous we were!! and add it up is fantastic in a filthy sort of way (one of the best ways to be fantastic i always think) what else, oh yes, my childhood computer reminiscences are of an old bbc b computer which my parents bought when i was about three, thinking that it would help me get ahead in my schooling. and indeed it seemed that the only games it was possible to buy for said machine were 'educational' although still rather addictive. however, i still never learnt my times tables after all its best efforts, and look at me now - a maths student!!! (well half of one anyway) brandt (look i remembered) said >It's interesting not being smitten with anyone. I may have to try >this for a while. isn't it just, my new weeks resolution a while ago was to remain resolutely single until i found someone fabulous enough to merit the honour of going out with me, but the novelty is starting to wear off, and i'm contemplating going back to being a filthy slapper again. this feels like a good time to remind you all to cast your list crush votes in this direction mbbx9ff2 at mail1.mcc.ac.uk that address again mbbx9ff2 at mail1.mcc.ac.uk gratuitous i know, but who ever said there was anything wrong with shameless self promotion? now if i don't have any messages from miss crush in my inbox next time i look there are going to be some sinistereenies with very sore bottoms. threat or promise? - you decide. all the talk of kate rusby made me think of my younger days when my parents used to drag me and my brother to folk festivals and we would eat tea and cake at mrs rusby's kitchen, the makeshift cafe run by kate's mum and dad for the duration of i think it was sidmouth festival. that sort of thing seems to make you immune to the music, i think i still suffer from the teenage aversion to parental approval. and also my mum, when she was in her youth, went out with martin carthy (dad of eliza) and so somehow i can't listen to any of that family's tunes either. and finally, whoever complimented me on my spelling, you can't understand how grate that was to read, spelling (and i'm being serious now) has always been something i take pride in. i know some people can't help being unable to spell, but it's sooooo infuriating when you see people, particularly in positions of power making glaring mistakes. yes i was just as sad in primary school as i am know, i learnt all my spelling roolz. an altogether better post than my offerings of late, dontcha think, love and chocolate covered snacks, fiona - smiling, beguiling +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dchard at xxx.ca Tue Jan 25 02:49:38 2000 From: dchard at xxx.ca (ipecac spice) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:49:38 -0400 (AST) Subject: Sinister: woeful e-mail lashings Message-ID: hi sinisterites. i hope all is well with you all. myself, i am feeling a bit blue. writing to you folks always cheers me up. it's like therapy. i just ramble on and you all hit delete. see, i am on another mailing list for a local band (i find it's a quick way to keep up with some of what's left of our local music scene). anyway. most of the messages lately have been things that are directed only to one person and should have been sent privately rather than to the list. it's become quite a pet peeve of mine to have my in-box jammed with messages like "thanks" and on going private conversations between 2 list members. so i sent a nice polite e-mail saying how it was a pet peeve of mine and nicely asking people to send messages that were relevant to only one person privately. i didn't want to offend anyone. i just thought that maybe if i said something that it would be a good idea. i have heard from one person twice and they have been very nasty. very not well intentioned messages. i feel really crappy. but none of the offender complained. so what's this persons problem? it makes me wnt to send her nasty cursing e-mails, but i know that it's important to be the bigger person. anyway. i needed to complain to somebody. i appreciate that you folks are considerate. i never thought an e-mail from a stranger could be so hurtful. boo hoo... in belle and sebastian relevant news. there is very little to report. i went to a local bar saturday night hoping to hear belle and sebastian. i was ready to dance having been informed by lucas that he has heard belle and sebastian there. unfortunately the dj after the band chose to play multiple rap songs. i became disillusioned and left. friday my university actually closed due to a so-called-blizzard. being my university though, they decided to wait to close until after i had already had one class. damned early morning classes. i hope my spelingz were ok. fiona has made me verrry self concious. -di "i respect those who have faith even though they are ignorant" -hemingway +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Mon Jan 24 16:39:54 2000 From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:39:54 -0500 Subject: Sinister: the computers we owned as children. In-Reply-To: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB699D812B@park_ex> Message-ID: <200001250252.VAA09181@s1.nassau.cv.net> > Anyway, I've got a new favourite pub nostalgia conversation "The > Computers We Owned As Children", which i don't think needs any > elaboration....(please) actually... i think it does. i had an atari 800XL that my grandfather found in a dumpster and gave to me. i played the regular cartridge games on it, of course, like pacman, donkey kong... (and even better ones like... well, i won't get into it.) but my -real- playground was the basic command line... you could just type in programs and run them as soon as you started up the computer... i spent hours on that thing when i was less than 10 years old... wow, that was a great computer. your turn, dears. - adam aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Colleen at xxx.com Tue Jan 25 04:01:46 2000 From: Colleen at xxx.com (Colleen) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:01:46 -0800 Subject: Sinister: bad hair will Message-ID: Hello Hello! i have quick question to anyone on the list really.. okey, i will be in ireland the 11th to the 15th and in central london from the 16th to the 22nd (approx.)i would really like to know of any good clubs/bars/shows etc... also, i thought i'd like to bring something back home with me, i have pretty much decided that i'd like to get a tattoo.(something i wont lose or break) if anyone can suggest a place with a good rep., i could make you my hero. only b&s content is pretty lame, i ordered about 13 or 14 cd's, one of them being b&s, and i waited so long to get it.. almost 3 months, the mailman left it on top of the mailboxes in our building and someone stole it. im so disgruntled, this isnt the first time i've had cd's stolen. im going to find the thief who did this, discreetly take a picture of them, put up flyers all over the nieghborhood (with photo) and humiliate them with things like the fact that thier penis is small, or that they give lousy blow jobs (as an eye catcher) then mention the fact that they have commited numerous federal offences etc., something to that extent..(i did this before to an ex-boyfriend and i really recommend it as a good healty way to vent out anger and frustration) until next time... be groovy, colleen www.firetalk.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ISawUfall at xxx.com Tue Jan 25 04:24:48 2000 From: ISawUfall at xxx.com (ISawUfall at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 23:24:48 EST Subject: Sinister: MARCH RECORDS PARTY AT BROWNIES -- NYC (USA CONTENT!) Message-ID: <92.94d012.25be7f90@aol.com> hello everyone. any of you going to brownies on friday or saturday? i could say HELLO to youuu there! i want to go on friday for sure. email me and let me know... im a boy, 24 yrs old, and unabashedly courageous!!! bye, david. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Tue Jan 25 05:02:46 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:02:46 EST Subject: Sinister: risking a beating Message-ID: <5f.9f6c01.25be8876@aol.com> so risking a beating i'm surely going to recieve from honey.I thought i would announce my photo as requested is posted.hehe and i must say whom ever sent in that latest 'tummy' photo...i was showing my mum that i was on the 'web' and we clicked on it....and welll lets say we're all very lucky she's liberal. or i reckon i wouldn't be here. haha. well that is all... iris i believe in peace, bitch_tori_amos www.angelfire.com/journal/standhere/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jcmoya at xxx.net Tue Jan 25 05:56:22 2000 From: jcmoya at xxx.net (Juan Moya) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:56:22 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i have no reason to be sad, so i am not... Message-ID: <388D3B06.68B838DC@bellsouth.net> hi, i'm not the kind of person who names things. my dogs have names. i suppose that my kids will have names, too. ordinarily however, i don't name things. then, just the other day, i bought a bicycle. it's my first bike since i was in grade school and i was looking for your run of the mill used ten speed with curved handle bars until i came across this one. i was shopping for a sleeping bag at the k-mart in my neighborhood when i saw it. a huffy beach cruiser type of thing. it's got a frame that's cream colored near the front of it and fades into a dark blue with a sparkle finish on it. the tires are white walled and they have shiny chrome mud guards. even the chain has a guard on it. the wide seat has springs underneath it and unlike your standard beach cruiser it has gears and hand brakes. i've had it for two weeks and have virtually stopped using my car. it's become my newest companion. now i don't have to worry about drinking and driving. i only concern myself with getting hit by a car. i've done the unthinkable and i've named my bicycle. everyday, i ride photo jenny. there's my b&s content. i'll wave at you as i speed by... j.c. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hicks81 at xxx.com Tue Jan 25 09:25:34 2000 From: hicks81 at xxx.com (grisham ohairy) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 01:25:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: sinister: ace computers Message-ID: <20000125092534.2912.qmail@web110.yahoomail.com> oooh...my first post. i'm nervous. my childhood computer was an atari 2600. class in a glass. i had many games, including the totally none p.c. title "xenophobe" hmmm. and, of course, the immortal "double dragon". class in a large pyrex beaker. hmmm...b&s content...are there any nice picnics or stuff planned? i am bored here in my little town with only my parka for company. love matthew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com Tue Jan 25 11:36:30 2000 From: Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com (Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 06:36:30 EST Subject: Sinister: looking for a housemate in oakland,ca Message-ID: <50.b8b9c6.25bee4be@aol.com> i hope i don't get in trouble for this, but i figure that those of you who this doesn't apply to will delete it. i'm looking for someone to share a house(preferably) with me and my cat, treble, in the oakland/berkeley area. i'd like to move out in february or early march. i kind of have a special circumstance so if you want to move out, but are short on money this would be a good situation for you. please e-mail me, not the list, if you're interested or pass it on to someone who might be and i'll give you more info. thanks. *alyssa marie* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Jan 25 11:14:49 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:14:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Orville the D**k Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22B7207C@SERVER1> Anyone else notice the high quality of posts in the last digest? Lucy Alder's welcome return (and yes, I am sucking up), IdleB, Honey 2 the Bee, CarsmileSteve and Jarkko demonstrating yet again that foreigners can swear in English with much more dignity than we can. You're not a dick, Jake, though sadly the same can't be said about Charles Bukowski. Right. What's the cheapest way to register a domain name? A desperately sad private joke between me and my mate Cecchi has seen us obsess with one passage out of Harold Pinter's "Old Times", and the absolute need to register www.beardswithfaces.com has surfaced and must be assuaged. How come everyone's in a good mood all of a sudden? Even at work everyone's being chipper and there are healthy glows a-plenty. Something's not right here. Andy Dean made me giggle (after I'd got over his descent into americanisms - "30 bucks" indeed) - I too noticed the Poetry Caff being gently ribbed on the box, and I'm quite looking forward to Chris Leonard's powerful blues yowl getting on the telly - give this man a(nother) record deal now! Although I can't talk about the joys of girls' schools as much as I would like, I did once get smuggled into the common room of Putney High by my friend Ella. I was wearing my Fat as Fuck Silverfish T-shirt and had stubble, but somehow I managed to persuade the teacher I was a female French exchange (my flowing locks at the time probably let me get away with it), and got a fascinating insight into, erm, private girls' education. It seemed fun at the time. Does anyone else think that Freddie Ljungberg is the cutest footballer in many a season? I'm not gay, mind. "I wish I could fly, right up in the sky, but I can't" - Lenny K***vitz ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 020 7224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From js.aurell at xxx.se Tue Jan 25 11:45:24 2000 From: js.aurell at xxx.se (Simon Aurell) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:45:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: You're just a sleepy company/And that's allright Message-ID: <003701bf6729$ae28e920$fc6497d4@brouhaha> Has whoever sent in the shoulder picture blabbed? If so I must have missed it, but if I knew, that's where I'd put my crush vote. Any people living in Sweden, preferably Gothenburg interested in a meet up/picnic or anything like that? Thanks to the person who posted about 3wk.com, it's mighty grand, I agree. You have made me happier. Simon xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cbrown2 at xxx.com Tue Jan 25 12:18:56 2000 From: cbrown2 at xxx.com (cbrown2 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:18:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: pepsi but no shirley Message-ID: <86256871.0043BFC8.00@em-stpmta-01.mmm.com> Morning sinister chaps and chapesses as mentioned before today everyone seems to be out of the deep depression that pervaded the sinister air last week, (my there was a lot of ranting going on wasn't there, including me - sorry about that) that's good to see. I feel a lot better as I've decided to make a nice long journey over to Western Australia to see my new buddy who I like a lot (she's very lovely). Is there anything of a twee nature over there? On the subject of computers I remember being a 12 year old urchin going into town and going straight for the Spectrums and the Commodore 64s just so I could write that program that makes the screen fill up with row upon row of the same line (with me it was usually "chris is skill" or other such nonsense) ah happy innocent days, so innocent in fact that I was too scared ever to try and get into the girls school, unlike lucky old Mark (btw Mark, I thought Freddie Ljungberg reminded me of beaker from the muppets, lovely goal though) I went back up North this weekend so missed all the Track and Field shenanigans. Did anyone go from these parts? JC, your bike sounds like the coolest bike in the world, please tell me it has streamers coming out of the end of the handlebars and a lollypop stick rubbing against the spokes to make it sound like a motorbike. Anyroad I'm going to love you and leave you, you lovely people. Hugs and kisses Chris Song for the day:Into my arms - Nick Cave overused word of the day - lovely +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Tue Jan 25 12:58:19 2000 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 04:58:19 PST Subject: Sinister: you wont understand a fucking word of this Message-ID: <20000125125820.94016.qmail@hotmail.com> Only god knows what I think about when I'm angry or bored: When I'm in love, I share it to everyone. Well there. I'm getting sick. My legs are all wobbly, my head hurts and these yellow dots have invided my eyes. No, it's not the sun. Flu is on it's way, I know it. I have a small spot on my lip: that's why I can tell. The man in the magazine was right: Only beautiful people get beautiful prides. God I'm tired. I don't know why: I slept from 6 p.m. to 10 p.m. last evening, got up, brushed my teeth and went back to sleep. I feel like a character from a Douglas Coupland book right now. Think too much, like they tend to do. And the funny thing is, people in Coupland books think thoughts no-one ever does in real life. But I'm thinking of them now. Oh well, maybe that's something that just happens. I also tend to feel like someone from a B&S- song every now and then. I think Darren Hayman from Hefner sings short stories, not songs. I wonder what all the people who look like penguins and listen to Bauhaus feel, living "in the darkness" all the time. Must be hard to see. Haha. Stupid people shouldn't breed. How the fuck can I feel this sleepy? Maybe I slept too much yesterday. Perhaps that's why my body aches so much, too. Someone mentioned a new matress in here. I sleep on a blank of wood, or so it seems. No wait, I didn't go to sleep right away, after I brushed my teeth. I watched this documentary about Lars Von Trier. It was subtitled in swedish, but I still understood everything he said in it. 11 years of studying swedish here in Finland didn't go to waste, it seems. Von Trier is one fucking genious. After his film Europa failed to win the main prize in Cannes in 1991 (Barton Fink won), what did he do? Went to pick up his prize for best direction and gave the jury the finger. Ace. The man obviously doesn't give a fuck. A bit like me. Haha. Hmm, not a completely wasted day. Wrote two gigreviews. Phoned up my boss and asked if he's got any cd's for me to review. Got two. Nice. Freelancing for a musicpaper is cool. I know I won't like 'em that much, but they look good on my shelf. I've got five books in there. I don't like to read. It's too slow. But what else do I have but time? Nothing, it seems: I'm at work and I've done nothing today. What a great way to get paid. @--->--- Jake tummy hurt 'cause too much coffee is never a good thing. Fuck. I'm sorry, someone. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Tue Jan 25 14:40:51 2000 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 06:40:51 PST Subject: Sinister: Disko Magic Message-ID: <20000125144051.6272.qmail@hotmail.com> In case any of y'all have CD burners. All four EP's, combined, clock in at 74:01. Perfect for one CD. That fact alone makes the box set a total gyp in my book. I was at the Magnetic Fields, too, in DC. Twice in one day. And they said men don't have multiple orgasms. Shit. They were awesome. At the first show, the instore, they even played a request I made, for "Old Orchard Beach". The song always sounded different when I sang it, because my voice is deep, too, and I was dying to hear Stephin sing it, and he did. Sort of like the live VU album where Lou Reed sings the Nico songs. Damn. A totally different song, it sounded like. Plus, I was sitting on the floor basically right in the middle of the band. And then they went and guestlisted my friends who were underage, just because we asked. I must've brushed up against a lamp somewhere. A foot of snow just fell outside. I'd better start figuring out where I'm going to sleep tonight. -Eran P.S. it's scary how they actually found the cure for depression, isn't it? What's unreal is how well it works. I have friends who used to be on the brink who talk about Zoloft like it's their best friend. All I can say is that, to anyone who's had it, there's nothing beautiful at all about depression. It sucks. I'd be happy to see it wiped off the earth. Sad is sad, but depression is death. The little girls understand. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BrnToEnd at xxx.com Tue Jan 25 15:07:30 2000 From: BrnToEnd at xxx.com (BrnToEnd at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:07:30 EST Subject: Sinister: So I said to Dean Moriatry "Lets hit the road" Message-ID: <96.491c32.25bf1632@aol.com> Hello fellow sinners, Why...oh why? is my life is dull and boring. It just consists of School Work, listening to music, dreaming and thinking I'm the next Jack Kerouac or John Lennon. Why can't I be On The Road with Dean Moriatry? or on a bus with The Merry Pranksters? Well for one...this generation is boring and just wants to smoke grass and listen to scary music(korn, Limp bizkit etc...) I'm no philospher nor am I Hunter S. Thompson but I really want to write a book that redfines the beatnik-60s "american dream" books like On The Road because I am bored bored with my life and school isn't much good either. One good thing though I'll be staring in Two plays this semester(Go me), The Sea Gull by chekhov and The dinning room by A.R. err whats his name again? None the less this will probaly add to atleast some EXCITMENT TO MY LIFE. but..... I'll probaly just end up being a starving actor doinbg rolls just for food and to pay the rent in my older years. Right now I can dream I knew Tenessee Williams or Jack Kerouac or I started the Manic Street Preachers. Then...who knows I'll be just a humble athiest reading Niezche I suppose. Just so I dont become a science teacher if so then stop me and kill me. I dont want to be an evil dude. I suppose my greatest fear is becoming a science teacher, Doctor or laywer. I'd rather read how horrible the world is in a book then see it. Well I wanted this e-mail bigger but lucky for you I have to go so bye bye and keep your chin up, -Damon P.S. I hate thoese random porno invites on AOL +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erica.macarthur at xxx.com Tue Jan 25 17:17:53 2000 From: erica.macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:17:53 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Dollimore and Christy Message-ID: <006d01bf6758$3c111a40$f99201d5@default> You lot! SINISTER - YOUR SLIP IS SHOWING Clothes. Brilliant, arent they? Well, I certainly think so. Knickers, shirts, trousers, ties....are YOU in fashion? are you one of those hipcats with a short fringe that make me hiss like an angry cat? fear not. I want everything. Pictures, that is - myself and honeydoll are cooking up plans. If 5 of you send me a picture of your favourite item of clothing we're opening a gallery. Don't spoil my fun - get snapping, and mail them to: erica.macarthur at btinternet.com TOP FIVE GAMES IN THE SWEET SHOP This weeks top five ways to pass the time on a saturday: 1) Jenga with cigarette packets 2) Drawing moustaches on back issues of Hello! magazine 3) Hiding under the counter until someone comes right up to it and jump out on them causing them to drop their things and look silly 4) Pull random child's hair while parent is looking at cards 5) Flirt with the postman I think that's all. Oh, I got a crush vote. Hurrah! wheels within wheels.. Erica x The House of Scarlet in dark glasses: http://www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Tue Jan 25 17:30:43 2000 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:30:43 -0000 Subject: Sinister: A plea.... Message-ID: <000f01bf6759$e94ab1c0$7cd9b0c2@default> Hi. I'm sorry to abuse the list like this, but I'm just wondering if any of you have bee/go to Bennington College in Vermont? Could you give me some info on what it's like and stuff? remember - to *my* addy - jasonandreas at breathemail.net Also, has anyone on the list from Britain (esp. Scotland, due to us having a different education system to England & Wales) went to America to attend college? What was it like? How did you sort out money? Were your fees paid for you by someone (as in the govt)? I'm really really sorry to abuse the list like this, but I can think of no better place to ask. Remember, send any reply to me, not the list. Thanks in advance. --Jason "And in the rapture and the charm Came the tranquil and the calm" ICQ: 45821217 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Jan 25 17:58:28 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:58:28 -0000 Subject: Sinister: heh heh, he said "todger"! Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22B72091@SERVER1> Obviously I wouldn't normally post twice in a day, but JESUS! Someone's put a todger on the body parts page!* I knew the site was just a front for a ring of desperate and depraved sickos. I suppose you could say that about sinister in general, but really. Whenever I've made requests lately, loads have people have been really helpful, so cheers to the lot of you. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.waggner at xxx.net Tue Jan 25 18:34:58 2000 From: m.waggner at xxx.net (Michele Waggner) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:34:58 -0500 Subject: Sinister: So I said to Dean Moriatry "Lets hit the road" Message-ID: <000901bf6762$e34ea020$88ac4f0c@amstech> BrnToEnd says, > Why...oh why? is my life is dull and boring. It just consists of >School Work, listening to music, dreaming and thinking I'm the next Jack >Kerouac or John Lennon. Why can't I be On The Road with Dean Moriatry? or on >a bus with The Merry Pranksters? >but I really want to write a book that redfines the >beatnik-60s "american dream" books like On The Road because I am bored >bored >with my life and school isn't much good either. This made me think about the Beats, and what was happening then... and it made me think of today and things how they are, and why it looks like some periods of time are more "intense" or "exciting" than others. Then I thought, maybe we all just miss what's going on around us and if we just took a closer look, or looked from a different angle... So I got down a book and looked up what Jack Kerouac thought about his times and what happened (It's a good book, "Good Blonde & Others") Jack Kerouac wrote: "The Beat Generation, that was a vision... of a generation of crazy illuminated hipsters suddenly rising and roaming America, serious, curious, bumming and hitchhiking everywhere, ragged, beatific, beautiful in an ugly graceful new way ---... 'beat, meaning down and out but full of intense conviction." "We'd write stories about some strange beatific Negro hepcat saint with goatee hitchhiking across Iowa with taped-up horn bringing the secret message ... like a veritable Walter the Penniless leading an invisible First Crusade." "But as to the actual existance of a Beat Generation, chances are it was really just an idea in our minds. We'd stay up twenty-four hours drinking cup after cup of black coffee, playing record after record... talking madly about that holy new feeling out there in the streets....We had our mystic heroes and wrote, nay sung novels about them... celebrating the new "angels" of the American underground. In actuality there was only a handful of real hip swinging cats and what there was vanished mighty swiftly ... maybe the result of the universalization of television ... but the beat characters after 1950 vanished into jails and madhouses or were shamed into silent conformity." "suddenly... postwar youth emerged cool and beat, had picked up the gestures and the style; soon it was everywhere, the new look... bop arrangements that were once the secret ecstasy music of beat contemplatives began to appear in every pit... the bop visions became common property of the commerical, popular, cultural world... and the Beat Generation, though dead, was resurrected and justified. Even in this late stage of civilization when money is the only thing that really matters to everybody... all inspired and fervent and free of Bourgeois-Bohemian Materialism." "Beat doesn't mean tired, or bushed, so much as it means 'beato,' the Italian for beatific... like St. Francis, trying to love all life, trying to be utterly sincere... cultivating joy of heart. How can this be done in our mad modern world of mulitplicities and millions? By practicing a little solitude, going off by yourself one in a while... You may be withdrawn but you don't have to be mean about it... Beatness is ... a form of spontaneous affirmation. What kinda culture you gonna have with everybody's gray faces saying, "I don't think that's quite correct?" "My favorite beat buddies were all kind, good kids, eager, sincere ("Now lend me five minutes of your time and listen to every word I'm going to say!")... such tender concern! Such a pathetic human hope that all will be communicated and received, and all made well by this mysterious union of minds." "As to sex, why not? One... asked me if I thought sexual passion was messy, I said, "No, it's the gateway to paradise." I started thinking (it's so dangerous when I think, I know) that a lot of this reminded me of Sinister, sounded pretty damn "B&S." People getting so excited over their mystic Scottish "angels", and CREATING things because of it -- having the DRIVE to -- writing things: stories about people on buses, stories about lives, look at the Sinister Midnight Library, look at the "Things We Made" pages, look at Tigermilking and such things -- communicating, filling up mailboxes but still, "give me 5 minutes and let me TELL you..." Sinisterines writing, talking, flying across the ocean to meet and talk more... sharing music they seem to have in common... tweeness perhaps as the new beatness... maybe I overstate it, I tend to do that... and I am trapped in the house by snow, so indulge me a bit or just hit delete :) Back in the early days of Sinister (and I am NOT saying "good old days" here, really)... there was a feeling of something "happening," of a community in but outside the "modern world," sort of that spontaneous affirmation, like YES this is GREAT!! (sic:) Now maybe we've gotten a bit like the "postwar" thing, maybe a bit of commercialism (box set jab)(when have jeepster ever steered us wrong, eh?) is creeping in... but that is not to say it HAS to be that way, a paler second-generation sort of style. People are STILL being completely captured by the music, the feelings it engenders... not just putting it on like this season's newest frock. I suppose what I'm saying is, things that happen NOW can indeed be as intense or exciting as other things we've seen in the past... we just have to look at what we have NOW and make it ours, put it on, not like a fashion, but like Life. Sometimes maybe it's hard to see the forest for the trees. Yeah, I know a lot of people here think Kerouac et al were shit... I'm not holding him or his times up as a paragon, just pointing out that in any given space in time there is maybe something to drive creation and excitement, it all HASN'T been done already. It would be a bit anachronistic to be a 50's Beat in 2000, and precious few opportunities to jump on boxcars and go across the country burning like an angelheaded hipster. Not that it's bad to want to, it would be great (sic) to. But you can look around, be captured and ... ummm... sit in your room like a cardie-wearing saddoe nibbling biscuits and cultivating joy, which you communicate in electrons or some other modern medium. Or save your pennies and fly to something like Bowlie, the modern version of setting off on a tramp steamer to see the smoky cafes of the jazz age. Just different forms of the same pilgrimage. Being in school rather than on the road, but doing something there, creating, being in a play... creating yourself according to how you ARE, according to what captures you. Different true, but the same as well... driven by that intensity, that feeling of "something happening" that you are indeed a part of if you give yourself the chance to see it. We might think, "Oh, I've just written some crap about some guy on a bus, or Stuart's silver trousers" but really, isn't it the same as Kerouac writing about some wild jazzman with a taped-up horn?" just 50 years later? Sinister has been that all along, and is, and can be. Ok, I've talked enough shit for one day. This wasn't meant as a criticism of anyone or anything... just the opposite really. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE LIST ON THE LIST, HONESTLY!!! There's a lot of intensity to the lives here, the very act of "give me 5 minutes" when a mail is written is part of the whole thing whether you like that particular mail or not. Ok, not "every" one :) I just think maybe sometimes all of us have to take a look at what we actually ARE doing, and see that it might not be as barren as we think. --michele, ignorant once again +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From apytmw at xxx.uk Tue Jan 25 18:56:13 2000 From: apytmw at xxx.uk (Mark Whitsey) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:56:13 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Beat, bodyparts and a funny feeling below... Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 3650 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dee at xxx.ie Tue Jan 25 19:38:25 2000 From: dee at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:38:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: you twee muskateers Message-ID: Greetings! Can you be too twee ? Without meaning to offend, and we know that those twee-er than thou can be so very very sensitive to criticism despite its' delicately put fashion, but really...I've had it up to here with twee. (gestures towards nose, then reconsiders and grapples over head for a while in a silly fashion) Does that mean my time on the list has come to an end ? Maybe I'm just over exposed to it at the moment, because all anybody here ever complains about is how nobody else likes or has heard of our scottish troubadours. See, everyone I know has heard of them and only a select few think they are crap. I was on an SD1 training course and even the trainers were commenting on how things like "teamwork" and "first response books" and "AV equipment" are twee. Its cute for a while but do you have to be twee to like them? Obviously not, or at least not permanently and I know when they played Dublin last night all the cool set were slightly put off by the cutesy masses who looked like mice. Just cut it out okay, said mummy crossly. (Phew, she was only pulling our leg all along.) ________________________ Denise Power;BA,Tutor Dept. of Classics, K209- Postgrad Room, John Henry Newman Building, University College Dublin. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From no_surprises_21 at xxx.com Tue Jan 25 19:54:05 2000 From: no_surprises_21 at xxx.com (Chris Heil) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:54:05 PST Subject: Sinister: W-ash-i-n-g-ton baby DC! Message-ID: <20000125195405.34779.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello all. There has been much talk of the magnetic fields on here lately so I figured someone may be able to answer my question. I bought the 69 love songs boxset back in early december never hearing the MFs before and was really quite taken with it. I believed ,when I purchased it, that the box set was the best of if not most of the magnetic fields collective works. But now I am hearing that it contains nothing from their old albums..and I know these must not all be newer or unreleased songs. So I'm a bit confused. The record shop I go to has some of their actual albums but I never bothered to look at the songs on them. So if someone can please help me with this dilemma and possibly recommend an older release of theirs it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Chris ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From no_surprises_21 at xxx.com Tue Jan 25 20:07:30 2000 From: no_surprises_21 at xxx.com (Chris Heil) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:07:30 PST Subject: Sinister: what does the E in EP stand for anyway? Message-ID: <20000125200730.54329.qmail@hotmail.com> All this talk about the EP box set has made me pull out my eps which I haven't listened to in quite a while. I haven't been listening to much B&S at all lately..shame shame I know...but I am one who believes you can get too much of a good thing. I wouldn't want to get spoiled. Anyway..I forgot how wonderful all the eps are..LLPJ used to be my favorite for some reason but now TIJAMRS and 369SOL are ringing in my ears and I can't get it to stop. And how can you not love it when StuartM's voice cracks on The Sate I Am In on the dog on wheels ep. I'm sure he planned that....pure genious! Well I'll stop..sorry to bore you all with all this ep talk. Oh and someone mentioned in a post earlier that you can fit all the eps on a cdr in about 74:01 minutes..well I made a cd and fit them on in about 73:34..and guess what century of elvis and century of fakers are back to back!! HEHE!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boucherphilip at xxx.com Tue Jan 25 20:14:45 2000 From: boucherphilip at xxx.com (The Vicar) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 20:14:45 GMT Subject: Sinister: Some Manchester Content(Not much you wont know already) Message-ID: <20000125201445.4709.qmail@hotmail.com> sinisterish folk, THE BIG FIGHT Today i was happy- i saw a great fight. Gav and Bernie on the football feild. Bernard pulled Gav's pants down in the middle of the feild. Gav smacked Bernie accross the chin, and then they wressled on the floor until Gav got the shite kicked out of him. The joys of going to school with immature (Yet tough) mainheads. B+S CONTENT(For people near Manchester anyway) Dont forget B+S night in Manchester on friday in the Star and Garter. Ill see you all there. LOOPER Today i went to the treehouse ind got some great looper sounds. I think i have discovered another great jeepster band, Ill have to look out for that 'Up A Tree' album. There it is, short, not great, but i will eventually get used to mailing to such a large audience. The pressures of writing are getting to me. Bye then. Vic. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GBCH at xxx.uk Tue Jan 25 21:35:32 2000 From: GBCH at xxx.uk (Chris_t_opher) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:35:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ahhhh! References: <200001251510.PAA19271@missprint.org> Message-ID: <003801bf677d$8300bda0$a63b883e@gsh> Lalalalalalalala. Hewo People I've been trying to think of something to post for ages now (look Lleweth, i tried at least!). So, in the end i'm going to just type whatever comes into my head and hope it looks nice. Erm, PopEx (www.popex.com) is wonderful, we should all play with Honey as our Mentor so she can win! And something else i found this weekend: www.geekrock.com is part of Che Records and to celebrate it's launch, they're giving away a free 18 track sampler to anyone*. I suggest we all get one and put this site out of business before it even begins (Warning: Anarchical streak emerging). I failed my driving test yesterday. The main reason was that i rolled back 6 inches (or 3 inches - depending on which gender you ask) at a roundabout. It wasnt my fault, i had a sore ankle and i couldnt control the clutch any long! Speaking of sore BODYPARTS, my KNEES are hurting and last week the doctor told me i need an operation. I also have pains in my HEART (any suggestions of how to get a picture?) but they should go away in two years. I thought 18 was the best year of my life - i suppose it could be if i party enough and die before my 19th. I've become quite a Beer-Monster recently. I have developed a tollerance to alcohol by exposing myself to it daily. One of my friends obviously hasn't - he developed breathing disabilities and started shaking on Saturday following a drinking game. It's good how the NHS Direct Helpline isn't available in Lancashire. It's equally good to see that i can drink faster than anyone else, otherwise it might have been me who was dying. Also, people keep on saying things that i could reply to, but i can't be bothered finding them. Chris_t_opher - King of Useless Indentation * except those of you who live in Swindon "I would go out tonight, but i havent got a stitch to wear. This man said "It's gruesome that someone so handsome should care!"" - Stars (Hey, Brian, get them over here on the double) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Wed Jan 26 05:55:44 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:55:44 EST Subject: Sinister: shiseido red Message-ID: yeah so i watched tv tonight. shock shock shock. yes. and i was most disturbed. 'dateline' which i think is an awful show. it's just a glorified jerry springer. like oprah. they just have status. but they all exploit people. so to my point. there is this asscow who is justifying rape! if you can believe it. he says it is a learned thing. natural from out 'caveman' days. this study focuses on men. but for the male side i will awknowledge that women rape as well. but it is more common for men to be the agressor. but yes so. i understand men are far more agressive most of the time in sex. and all this shit. but spare me there is no LEARNED BEHAVIOUR HERE! oh my god. i'm beside myself. there is nothing natural about putting a gun to a womans head and beating her and then ramming your penis against her body and destrying something she once thought she had control of. when you force someone to do something that is not something they chose to partake in it is a violation beyond words. bah. well i had a dream with B&S. but like all it was, was me standing on a stage singing electronic renaissance. and i couldn't remember the words. and i was embarrassed. it is stupid i know but it's odd i have a dream regarding a group i listen to. i never have dreams about people i know or music related things. we went to see the house it was pure joy. sigh. it needs a lot of internal cosmetic fixups but other than that it is a sound house and it does have windows unlike what my friend stated. it's just they are multipaned windows and so a few bits are knocked out here and there. and the house was once used as a hospital for shock therapy treatments which is most scarey. and one room upstairs has partial padding on the wall. which is amazing. but my friend mike has claimed that room and sami and jeff claimed the shock treatment room. not that i mind. i mean honestly would any of you want to sleep in a room like that? scarey if you ask me. the hospital wasn't for crazies it was used for drunks and druggies. but all in all shock treatment isn't something i would have nor do i now condone. but the house is very promising. it won'tbe ready for a few months which is good because i don't have a job. so that will give me time. i'm reading rosemary's baby i haven't gotten to the scarey bits yet. but i'm anticipateing it with every page i turn. i probably shouldn't read anymore tonight considering what a pussy i am and i'll get scared and have to sleep with the lights on, i used to be able to watch it all but since i've grown up my imagination is evil and so i can't tolerate it much. well sigh i probably will finish it tonight knowing me. i'm a book whore. yes. ok now i'm going. i've cooled down i've expressed my anger take care love and squishy things. ciao bella/bello iris see that look? that look in my eye? thats my booty look._cabdriver_from_200cigarettes_ StandHere http://www.angelfire.com/journal/standhere/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Wed Jan 26 07:28:57 2000 From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:28:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: like they're just another meal. Message-ID: <20000126072857.23685.qmail@web115.yahoomail.com> sins, the lot of you, iris keeps talking about her (future) new house and i keep picturing it and am happy. i used to grab the "new homes" section of the paper first when i was young (i'm old now, turned 25 yesterday and am on the beginnings of a bender it seems, though i managed to make it to work, still alcohol-fueled. yar.) floor plans always did fascinate me. so easy to knock down walls on a picture. and that ensuite bathroom, oh yeah... Maybe this is a product of growing up in duplexes and townhouses... living on newsprint. the saturday paper was always the best for this. fuck the comics page, i want some *real* fantasy in my life, ooh, check out the 3 bdrm w/ family room on F-4... and things change. it's all brick-front suburban crap now. boring boring boring. sorely lacking in robots and robot-related kitchen appliances. entering the first computer thingy: we had an ADAM coleco-vision "computer" with tape drives. i hated it. i cursed it. i was the only one in the house who could use it. glorified word processor. and this was in '88. someone gave it to us when they upgraded to a 386 or something. i mastered Zaxxon in an effort to work out my frustrations. hey robyn, nerd-girl! yeah. ha ha, you answered! a friend who is now working at my workplace is amazed at my tech skills. she thinks i'm some kind of info-tech wizard. it's not true, it's only b/c she knew me when i used to cry in the computer lab. that should be a song. and yes, yes, yes, my god, yes: when genevieve wrote: > it's not like Struan's pushed me into the wall and has got both my arms pinned above my head,with only one of his hands,whispering menacingly "You..will..buy..it" and I'm going "Bite me,jeepster skank!" But he's just sooo strong.. oh yeah.< I mean, Struan or not, i had to grip the mouse tightly, which made me think of my wrists, and he's just sooo strong... I think such things should be repeated. maybe i'll make this my new sig. or maybe i should get back to reading. soon enough i will be quoting 'who want's to be a millionaire'. oh... my. this show is like drinking too much too fast: it's fun for a while and then you just wish you never started or stopped early on. some guy last week lost at the first question. and i had to turn off the tv. it was a moment. i haven't gone back. still, if regis wore monochrome spring colours. shiny pink ties. also, the word 'skank' is good. as is 'skankwear'. skankity, skank, skank, skank. there are jeans called 'shank' advertised on bus shelters. i just laugh. there aren't enough paint-pens in the world... love. it. Robyn ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Wed Jan 26 10:30:29 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 02:30:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: A question for chatterboxes..... Message-ID: <20000126103029.17116.qmail@web601.mail.yahoo.com> tummy ache. nerves you see. eek. Out of curiousity, can anyone else who is at a uni pootah log into that chat site Honey was raving about? I can't, and Honey knows this, so i was wondering if its just yours truly who is having problems. I GOT AN EXAM TODAY!!! oh dear. I read a novel yesterday, it was brilliant. So moving. Anyway, tummy to rub better, cherrypips darlings, Idleberry ===== visit the idle site:www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/5117 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Wed Jan 26 11:50:42 2000 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:50:42 GMT Subject: Sinister: Steve Jackson on the new Oasis album Message-ID: <20000126115042.1937.qmail@hotmail.com> I just opened up my brand new NME to find Steve J. waxing lyrical about Standing On the Shoulder of Giants. He said "I like it" "The new songs are OK" "the whole album seems to have an obsession with 1968 or '69" "I was lead to believe that Liam's song was really twee and horrible- even worse than some people imagined B+S to be- but I thought his vocal transcended that." he also said other stuff but I don't have the time to type it all out. Peter Ainsworth MP said "it conjures a world of joss sticks, cheesecloth, patchouli and a kind of unspecific resentment" which I found rather funny Paul ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Wed Jan 26 13:15:46 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 05:15:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20000126131546.26925.qmail@web601.mail.yahoo.com> i can't believe I've read and sorted through all the sinister mails in my in box from the past few days! well I have, and now I'm painting pictures in my imagination of people I chat to. ===== visit the idle site:www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/5117 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eugeneseberg at xxx.com Wed Jan 26 13:31:20 2000 From: eugeneseberg at xxx.com (Steven Kado) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:31:20 EST Subject: Sinister: a spring a spring a marvelous thing! Message-ID: <20000126133120.21037.qmail@hotmail.com> i get the feeling that this didn't go thru so i'm sending it again. lorg knows that this is a really important and vital email. who the hell is afraid of moomins? what is that all about? i mean really, what kind of wimp are you? i for one am not even finnish, and yet i love the moomins dearly. i even have a moomin mug for special hot-chocolate when i'm feeling poorly and upset. i bet other notable fins like panasonic and jimi tenor and tom of finland all have deep seated moomin coolness lurking at the heart of their lofty art. yes! M O O M I N S !!! I APPEAR IN LUCY ALDER'S DREAMS! YES! months of focusing my chi-ray over the ocean has finally paid off! actually, i'm as surprised as anyone could be, last night just as i was going to bed i heard a rather shrill womans voice call my name, but i just assumed it was one of the vermin living in my wall, trying to lure me out of bed so that they could drop a net on me or something. maybe i was hearing lucy's scream of surprise as she realized that a real person was sending her email in a dream. or maybe i'm just full of shit. (although i've barely eaten all day so its unlikely) hmmm, and i will also be eating fish-sticks later tonite as they are the only food left in my house, i will now undoubtedly visualize lucy lying asleep on each one as i saw her in half with my knife and dip her (and her mattress) in soy sauce. ugh. the woild of fashion: yes! there are 2 new T-Shirts from steven kado sharpie industries: the first: 'Justice is alright' the second 'HEY SAILOR!' yes! i can't wait till the salt and slush is off the roads so that i can get my white suede loafers out! then i will be SOOOOOOOstylin' ALSO: I WORK! last night was my first day of work. I work coat-check at the CBC broadcasting centre's theater and last night we had this Robbie Burns day thing (taping in advance) and so i found myself taking all kinds of scottish coats, from all kinds of scottish old people. it was quite exciting really. two of the old geezers tried to make off with the coat hangers. also the girl on the program who read some moving selections of Mr.Burns' poetry sounded very much like she could have been in belle and sebastian, especially those talky bits in i could be dreaming....yeah, she could have done that. its a nice job, i really only do half an hour of work and the rest of the time i had an elastic band war with my co-workers and made fun of the baritone singer. it is tops steve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vibrosheep at xxx.net Wed Jan 26 13:42:01 2000 From: vibrosheep at xxx.net (vibrosheep at xxx.net) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:42:01 Subject: Sinister: Stop Poking My Box. Message-ID: <200001261342.NAA26143@mailhost.vivao.net> BOX-SET... I probably only read my own mails but I can't believe this hasn't been said before... Why in hell didn't they include a fourth disc of previously unreleased material, unavailable on it's own, to encourage the likes of Andrew Dean to clean his bedroom and make space for the sodding thing. THAI NEWS... They're mad fucking bastards sometimes in''em? Older Lucy informed us of young Nathan, just 7, but already with more taste in the sartorial department than the majority of you capital dwelling sorts. You can learn a lot from 7 year olds Lucy, especially about Pokemon, which is bollocks right, cos in Japan ( and I'm sure someone's gonna prove me wrong here)they call it Pocket Monsters, but over here we give it some sort of noncey fucking handle like Pokemon. KEVAN COOKE...AGGGGGHH What are we going to do about the Millenium B&S World Subbuteo European Second Division Nuneaton Borough U-12's Cup Final ? THEY'RE NOT BLOODY MAKING THE DAMN STUFF NO MORE !!! No wonder Isobels arse is so chuffing big, it's got three years worth of sodding UHU on it. I'm sure she appreciates us airfixing it black for that slimmer look, but there's no helping the poor lass now. I blame the kids with their Slinkies and their BMX bikes. There's just not enough demand for adults toys anymore. GOD, I'M TALENTED.... Sunday saw me so pissed I got up and did Karaoke...twice...same song. "Panic" by some group of scruffy urchins from a previous decade or something. How the crowd was delighted (well the new pit-pony anyway)as I gargled "Panic on the Streets of Carlisle...Dublin, Dundee, Humberside" managing to change to the relevant accent for each placename. Try it, it isn't easy. PIT-PONIES.... Am I sick ? I have to ask right, but it's just that my new Pit-Pony, Kate, has exactly the same name as the last Pit-Pony, who was called Kate...also. It's pure coincidence, but would a man (not a boy) of sounder mind have run a fucking mile ? YOU TELL ME... I'm off for a packet of Pickled Onion Monster Munch. VS (OSU) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Wed Jan 26 14:18:05 2000 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:18:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: 6 Degrees of Rose Melberg Message-ID: Michele, you can't claim to not talk about fight club because then you are calling attention to the fact that you are talking about fight club. :) Just busting chops to start this message. Anyway, I made this killer tape for our darling Marie Elia. It was originally supposed to be a best of Rose Melberg (of Tiger Trap, Softies, Go Sailor, etc. fame) tape, but then dear Ree went and got a copy of the brilliant It's Love by the softies and a major portion of the tape was eliminated. So I asked if she would like a rose and friends tape, thinking i'd throw some henry's dress and rocketship on there, when it hit me--I'd make a six degrees of rose melberg tape! It's kind of like that six degrees of kevin bacon game. Who has acted with who so that you can get to kevin bacon in 6 movies or less? So I did the same with rose, since she's played with a ton of people. Let me give you an example--Rose played with Heather Dunn in Tiger Trap, who played with lois Maffeo in Lois, who played in Tommy with Carrie Brownstein, who is in Sleater-Kinney. My dilemma? I'm trying to figure out a way to like Rose to Belle and Sebastian this way, and I don't think it is very possible. Rose has been around a bit, musically speaking, and I knwo that B & S members have collaborated with others, but how do you bridge the ocean? If anyone has any ideas, let me know. Anyway, I'll leave you now with the most famous person in the 6 degrees of rose game--Rose was in Tiger Trap with Heather Dunn who is in the Dub Narcotic Sound System with Calvin Johnson who played with BECK Hanson. Boy, I'm sure you're all impressed. Sorry to waste your time. Just hit the delete key. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Wed Jan 26 14:46:40 2000 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 06:46:40 -0800 Subject: Sinister: hanging from the balcony upon the riverboat glass Message-ID: hello folks, a couple of people have said they'd rather have seen the release of new b&s material rather than the repackaging of records that were originally released in 1997. the reasons behind the absence of any new b&s material seems to be explained in an article on the nme.com website, i've included it here as i don't think anyone else has sent it to the list yet. bye, kevan > >WHY HAVE THERE BEEN NO NEW BELLE AND SEBASTIAN RELEASES SINCE 1998? > >1999 started well for the Scottish media shy eight piece Belle and >Sebastian, but almost after a year on from claiming the Brit Award >for best newcomers the band have yet to release any new material. >It now emerges that the reason for this may lie with the bands' >maverick record label, Beepster Records. > >It emerges that Beepster have been concentrating their efforts and >capital into Beepsterworld, an indiepop theme park to be located >just outside Dagenham. > >This shocking news came to the attention of the NME after blueprints >for the site surfaced in a folder marked "Confidential" found near >to the waste outlet of the Beepster International Tower in Central >London. > >Further investigation reveals that development has already begun at >the site, and that the 360 degree Looper is already complete. The >Gentle Waves water ride is also well into development. > >The Snow Patrol miniature railway will tour the site, dropping off >it's passengers in a fibreglass mountain range, reminiscent of the >French Alps, which is to be called the Belle and Sebastian Zone. >There is some confusion over whether this has any connection to the >French book and cartoon of the same name. > >An anonymous source from within the construction team working on the >site reveals that the project has not been without it's problems: >"The Belle and Sebastian Zone in particular has been hit by a series >of inexplicable and embarrassing delays, and the rollercoaster ride >just seems to be going on and on forever." > >Dagenham council have confirmed that planning permission was granted >some months ago and describe the venture as "very exciting", whilst >admitting to some nerves about the competition from Leatherhead's >rival venture, the National Lottery funded Celine Dion Adventure >Park, as reported in last weeks NME. > >A Beepster employee told us confidentially that amusement parks are >what the kids want, and it is expected that Beepster A&R man Mark >Bones will be issuing a press release later this week. > *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From FearofMops at xxx.com Wed Jan 26 19:32:59 2000 From: FearofMops at xxx.com (FearofMops at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:32:59 EST Subject: Sinister: Insert Clever Lyric Here Message-ID: <5a.905277.25c0a5eb@aol.com> okay, i'm going to crawl from my lurker hole and expose my sensitive skin to the sinister sunlight. there's been so many posts that i've wanted to comment on lately. now that i'm typing i can't seem remember what any of them said. i do remember someone extolling praise upon the nick drake box set. (sorry that i've forgotten who you are.) i must agree, it's absolutely beautiful and everyone must run out and buy it. oh and i must praise 2 previous posts....damon who mentioned mr. kerouac's "on the road" and definitely props go out to ms. michele waggner for an absolutely beautiful follow-up to mr. damon's. made my day it did. i suppose i'll sound off on the whole b&s box set thingy, not that anyone cares. but i say it's a good idea for 2 reasons...1) the ep's are hard to find on this side of the pond. 2) if you do happen to find them, you have to pay out the ass because they're imports. so a box set is nice and convenient, not to mention inexpensive. this is totally un-list and un-b&s related but i have to ask if any other listees have had a similar experience. i've become addicted to watching a particular program on this shop at home network ( not to be confused w/ the home shopping network). anyway they sell a bunch of crap like knives and pokemon cards. it's hosted by a madman who spends the entire program screaming at the viewers. the best way i know of to describe it is chris farley's voice w/ a little bobby hill ( of "king of the hill" fame) phrasing thrown in. it's addictive in a scary sort of way. of course i'm never compelled to actually buy...but i can spend hours watching it. okay this post has run on far too long as it is. i better crawl back into my hole before my lily-white skin becomes blistered. ciao. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Wed Jan 26 21:26:03 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:26:03 EST Subject: Sinister: virgin white snow Message-ID: oh god. it's snowing it is actually snowing in okieland. and it's at about six inches here. sigh. it's lovely it never snow *snows* here i reckon my sister will go out there and ruin the pristine layer. sigh. i had to share that. yes ok so this post is useless beyond belief. oh rosemarys' baby sucked. royally. i was left totally unsatisfied by the author. i was expecting gruesome scenes. betwixt the catholics and the devil worshipers. it spends 98% if the book winding up to shit. absolute shit. and it ends with her on their side. i mean come on i was expecting some sort of miniture new york version of a holy war. this is the book my best friend threw out the bus window when she was 12 years old? please. argh.the chronicles of narnia are far more interesting. any way. i don't care about the boxed set i have to special order all my b&s stuff anyway. so it won't be cheaper or whatever. or more 'convenient.' and so long to trying to 'not' be commercial. in the societies we exist in today that is simply impossable my dear. ciao bella/bello iris he's chasing tornados, i'm just waiting calmly_tori_amos_ standhere www.angelfire.com/journal/standhere/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From porterww at xxx.edu Wed Jan 26 22:12:47 2000 From: porterww at xxx.edu (Will Porter) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:12:47 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: It's only fair to tell you I'm absolutely cuckoo Message-ID: Ok, so I was thinking about something, and as much as I love English (I think it's a fantastic language, and I speak it exclusively), I think that some other languages have some much nicer ways to say things than we do. Dig: the French 'adieu' and the Spanish 'adios', when whacked in two with some sort of metaphor, become 'a dieu' and 'a dios'--literally, 'to God'. Meanwhile the English 'goodbye' means 'goodbye'. Similarly, the Spanish 'me encantan tus ojos' literally means 'your eyes enchant me' (alternatively, it could be stated 'I am enchanted by your eyes', but I stand by my initial translation), whereas the English 'you got pretty eyes' doesn't stand up to comparison. Devil Worship: This practice has always struck me as a little.... uhm .... fucking stupid. Dig: in order to worship The Devil (i.e. Satan, Lucifer, et al), one must first accept that the good force (the Judeo-Christian notion of God) that created and excommunicated said beastie ALSO exists and has whupped up on the forces of darkness on several previous occasions. Essentially, devil worship is nothing more than a particularly sad batch of Christianity. As for B&S, does anyone else think that 'We Rule The School' sounds an awful lot like Pachelbel's 'Canon' from time to time? I've been listening to the Magnetic Fields pretty much nonstop since I bought 69 Love Songs--it's fantastic. I have not been this excited about a band since I found B&S. Query: do any of you Americans on the list have "Out of Here" (I think that's what it's called), by Tim Keegan and the Departure Lounge? If so, how'd you get it? I went into the local too-cool-for-the-likes-of-you record store, and they hadn't heard of it can couldn't get it. I felt very powerful and indie-cool after having stumped Austin's hippest,but I would still like to have that cd. Incidentally, has anyone ever noticed the similarities between Hans Christian Andersen's "The Snow Queen" (the high apex of fairy-taledom if you ask me, though I wouldn't read it to young children), and C.S. Lewis's "The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe" (also a favorite). And speaking of young children's literature, did any of you love "The Bridge to Terabithia" when you were kids? I really don't know how to end this. Will +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From no_surprises_21 at xxx.com Thu Jan 27 02:01:54 2000 From: no_surprises_21 at xxx.com (Chris Heil) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:01:54 PST Subject: Sinister: magnetic maniacs!!!! Message-ID: <20000127020154.90486.qmail@hotmail.com> I wonder if I asked a question about B&S if I would get this many responses. Thank you all for the help on my magnetic fields problem. Now I'm torn between buying 'holiday' or 'get lost' first..there seems to be an equal split on what everyones' favorite is. And now that I know the entire story of that Stephin guys' life and the complete discography of everything he has every recorded I can go on with my life. hehe. Well thank you all again. chris ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". 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Name: not available URL: From Glamtart at xxx.com Thu Jan 27 12:49:11 2000 From: Glamtart at xxx.com (Glamtart at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 07:49:11 EST Subject: Sinister: "goodbye," various, etc etc Message-ID: <7d.5f8646.25c198c7@aol.com> Will Porter writes: > Ok, so I was thinking about something, and as much as I love English (I > think it's a fantastic language, and I speak it exclusively), I think that > some other languages have some much nicer ways to say things than we do. > Dig: the French 'adieu' and the Spanish 'adios', when whacked in two with > some sort of metaphor, become 'a dieu' and 'a dios'--literally, 'to God'. > Meanwhile the English 'goodbye' means 'goodbye'. >> Actually, "goodbye" is a shortened form of "God be with you" - left over from centuries past. That makes it a little more charming, no? Argh, I'm in the middle of high stress at my corporate job slaving for The Man and applying to grad schools - not to mention my birthday was Monday and my dad decided to pick a fight with me!!! I've had to listen to loads of calming, soothing Belle and Sebastian (much to the dismay of my cubicle-mate, who thinks they are crap). There were English men in the office yesterday from one of the UK divisions of the company I work for... which makes me a) want to transfer to their company and b) miss living in the British Isles. Somehow Arkansas doesn't compare! Anyway kids I am going to be late for work so goodbye for now... er, should I say "God be with you?" Mandy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Jan 27 13:00:12 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:00:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Runniness of the Bone Dickshop Long Johns Message-ID: <01bf68c6$72e84060$LocalHost@itjfvkli> You won't catch me or Mr Rusty talking about children's television. Will Porter wrote: Dig: the French 'adieu' and the Spanish 'adios', when whacked in two with some sort of metaphor, become 'a dieu' and 'a dios'--literally, 'to God'. Meanwhile the English 'goodbye' means 'goodbye'. "Goodbye" 1573 - a contraction of "God be with you (or ye)". "Bye Bye" 1432 - a contraction of "Beelzebub be with you (or ye)" Good luck to Mister Chris for tomorrow night's nerve-racking-make-or-break London showcase. Mark, is it Truck Turner? Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Thu Jan 27 15:10:22 2000 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:10:22 BST Subject: Sinister: someone rap me across the knuckles and tell me to do something c Message-ID: <901C9AF0536@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> my dearest sinistereenies, everything's been quite gorgeous around these parts, i'm quite overwhelmed, especially michelle's rousing encouragement of creativity, it almost made me want to get off my arse and do something with my life, but i thought i'd better have a lie down first. todays lesson on how to usefully spend two hours of your life is to try and write degree level essays on stuff you skim-read once the previous night. guaranteed fun!! but its still easier than my maths exams. if iris thinks its difficult to make stuff rhyme with her name, she should try making anything rhyme with fiona. i challenge you, no in fact i don't because that would make for really boring posts. i don't really want to go back to the subject of kids tv, but does anyone know of any websites with the flumps on them. every time i put the flumps into a search engine, it gives me loads of great classic tv sites, but none of them actually seem to feature the flumps. unbelievably i'm actually disturbed by this. dammit, i was sure i had something constructive to tell you all, but i can't remember, i really should write things down when i think of them. oh, has anyone heard lupine howl (band of spiritualized type people) they're crackin' (excuse me for being northern, but i can't pretend to be otherwise). raaaaaa is it wrong to steal margarine and milk from one's flatmates? i have to hide behind the fridge door, but then they do use all my cutlery and bowls and stuff. although as long as they don't find out... i'm in a state of limbe today, i finished my exams this morning, but none of my friends finish until tomorrow so i can't celebrate, unless i do so on my own, but that really isn't an appealing prospect. i shall leave you now before i send myself to sleep, nevermind anyone reading this, stay beautiful, fiona ~~~no-no-no-notorious~~~ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ECSAMENZ at xxx.uk Thu Jan 27 15:20:36 2000 From: ECSAMENZ at xxx.uk (Menzies Amy) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:20:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: someone rap me across the knuckles and tell me to d o something c Message-ID: <61DE2ADF138DD3118E2700062B00055AA8FFF5@exch-student.livjm.ac.uk> fiona wrote: >i don't really want to go back to the subject of kids tv, but does >anyone know of any websites with the flumps on them There's bound to be something about them on TV Cream: http://tv.cream.org/ In fact I've just looked and there is. Amy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 9905418B at xxx.uk Thu Jan 27 15:31:19 2000 From: 9905418B at xxx.uk (Roderick Brannan) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:31:19 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ta much Message-ID: Just a quick note to say thanks to everyone who helped with my Beck chorus query ( and those of you who supported my battles against the Moomins!) Much appreciated Young Roddy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Thu Jan 27 16:01:12 2000 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:01:12 BST Subject: Sinister: flumps Message-ID: <902A29862C3@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> i know, i know, posting again, and i'm answering my own question, but go here: http://www.psychoflump.clara.net/flumps/index.html and if you're bored look at the pigeon street sites, they're easy to find. jaffa cakes etc... fiona +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From splag at xxx.net Thu Jan 27 16:52:01 2000 From: splag at xxx.net (Scott Plagenhoef) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:52:01 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Nobody likes a rumor monger Message-ID: <200001271653.QAA26485@missprint.org> or a rumour monger as the case may be. Hello you lot: Well, hmm, at the risk of receiving a swift -- and probably well-deserved -- kick to the shin from Mummy I risk making a massive faux paus for help in solving a Looper-related (and by extension a B&S-related) puzzle. The story goes as such: A reputable alternative newsweekly here in Chicago has a curious listing this week indicating that the Flaming Lips are scheduled to play at a place called the Cubby Bear -- a ridiculous sports bar located in the shadow of an organized professional team sports stadium and is more apt to house high-fiving, white-hat wearing former frat boys whose autumn weekends rise and fall on their success betting on American football than mind-bending bits of lovely music. Normally, one would accept these concert listings at face value and think, "Wow! The Lips are coming back! That's great blinking news!" However, the combination of the oddball venue and my already being in possession of tickets for a live "Kids in the Hall" performace that night necessitated further investigation to confirm that the listing wasn't a mistake and to see if it is possible to attend both in the same night. (And to see whether the Lips announcement is a bit of a gaffe and I should instead purchase Elliot Smith tix that go on sale tomorrow for the same night. Spoilt by choice, I know.) OK, after being unable to confirm the news from any other local sources, I tried www.flaminglips.com and there is no official listing there for any shows except for a US tour warm-up show in Oklahoma City in early February, but they promise that official dates would be announced soon and indicated that Looper would be the support. I *know* that everything will be duly reported and such when it is official (there is nothing on the Jeepster site or the Treehouse announcing Looper dates), so I should wait, but maybe we could plead with Jeepster to do a bit of investigative reporting work. scott [to Jeepster]: I know that you can't provide any information directly yourself, but I thought that I could make a statement, put forth a theory, and you could correct me if any of my information is false. Ready? Are Looper supporting the Flaming Lips on an upcoming US tour? Jeepster: [silence.] scott: I'm sorry, Jeepster. Did you not hear the question? Jeepster: We heard it, but you didn't hear us say anything, did you? scott: Ah, no. Great. So, are Looper playing in Chicago on Feb 26? -- and so forth. Leaving that well-constructed fantasy world that insulates me from reality (sorry), this opens up many a can of beans, namely: 1) Does this mean that the new B&S album is completed? 2) What of the B&S tour dates that the Jeepster site says they hoped to do in Feb., March and April? 3) What is the status of the Looper LP that they hoped to release around April? So, now that I infected our list with heresay, is there any reliable information out there? Jeepster? scott. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From no_surprises_21 at xxx.com Thu Jan 27 18:48:54 2000 From: no_surprises_21 at xxx.com (Chris Heil) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:48:54 PST Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian.....on mtv....playing songs for children Message-ID: <20000127184854.82490.qmail@hotmail.com> I was flipping through the channels on the telly last night ,in my ordinary pattern, when I was stopped on MTV an noticed that there was something on other than the real world, a britney spears video or then banter of carson daily.(B&S content soon) It seems MTV decided to do a special news show on the state of our great american politics and all these crazy men trying to buy our vote. I was about to continue on with my endless finger flicking when a segment came on about Steve Forbes..the disturbing looking politician wannabe magazine man with all the money..and I noticed something strange. There was a very familiar sound in the background...could it be..I hope it is and then again I hope it is not...but it is! It was dirty dream number two! I was baffled...I once saw a video for "is it wicked not to care" at like 2 in the morning but that was a long time ago. And throughout the steve forbes segment it was a virtual soundtrack of B&S..I couldn't even keep up with the songs they were using. Why was MTV using B&S for its political message to us kiddies. The whole thing was was very disturbing and I was upset the rest of the night...that is until I found an episode of Seinfeld a few minutes later and then I was ok. bye bye all! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From smiley.rebelmonkey at xxx.net Tue Jan 25 14:06:41 2000 From: smiley.rebelmonkey at xxx.net (Mr Smiley) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 14:06:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Shake hands, Genocide References: <200001182157.VAA22842@missprint.org> Message-ID: <000001bf6848$1abea920$bc1cac3e@richardstesco.net> Bonjour, Sorry if I offended to people of Sheffield in my last post. I'm sure many of you are in fact lovely. But then again, if you have a monstrous hangover and some git like me calls you at 9:30 in the morning to ask if you've had the Sheff. Gazette/Journal delivered, you might turn ugly. People often sound really excited when they answer the phone, as if they're expecting a call from the secret lover. I've been making a hobby of predicting the moment the crushing disappointment hits them. "Oh...", they say. I think the boxed set is a truly fab idea, because I'm a relatively new fan of a band called B&S and I need some more songs to sate my cravings, and I've only got the albums. None of the shops in my personal hell (known as Worksop) stock...well singles of any description actually, except chart ones. Which are shit. Unless they're by the Manics. Box sets are shameless cash ins, but most things are, it's just a matter of convenience for me. Be nice and easy to get one nice big box from HMV, rather than scrabbling through piles of (unsorted) records in some dingy independent store. I hope nobody's going to think the less of me now. By the way, I should point out that I really love indie records stores, especially dingy ones. HMV is too clean for my liking, but I arrive in Sheffield on a Saturday at 9:50, and work starts at 10, so scrabbling around looking for singles is not an option. I've just realised, I really don't know what I'm talking about. I agree with Mr. Gilmer about beauty. I don't know any ugly people. At first I thought a few in my 6th form were, shall we say, aesthetically challenged, but now I know them (or her rather) I know she's a really lovely person. If you don't know what I'm talking about there's a quote bit beneath these words: >Look, there are very, and I mean very few ugly people in the world. >I really believe that and not just spouting twee boy rubbish. Some people >are more glamorous than others, and that's something different. I've been behind with my sinisters. Been away you see, I'm reading through my 13 digests now, and I'm on the second and I've wrote this much in response to it. So I'll stop here. Au Revoir, Mr "I only know two French phrases really" Smiley +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barbielovesyou at xxx.com Thu Jan 27 22:07:02 2000 From: barbielovesyou at xxx.com (Barbie's Ink Polaroids) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:07:02 0000 Subject: Sinister: FAMILY FAVOURITES Message-ID: Dear Journal, Here's a photo of me with my two youngest sisters, Stacie and Shelly. I love all my sisters for different reasons. Shelly, my youngest sister is really cute. I often take her shopping, she sits in the trolley and helps me. I love baby-sitting for her, although Skipper usually does that, she's trying to potty train Shelly! Stacie's great fun. We have lots of laughs as she's just got a new bicycle and is learning how to ride it. Then of course there's Skipper. She's not actually in this photo although I probably spend as much time with her as with my other sisters. We're really close. I guess I'm lucky to have three fabulous sisters in my family. love Barbie get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erica.macarthur at xxx.com Thu Jan 27 21:14:07 2000 From: erica.macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:14:07 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Little baby luck References: Message-ID: <000001bf6915$715e5320$748401d5@default> My Cardi-wearing lovely ones, > Incidentally, has anyone ever noticed the similarities between Hans > Christian Andersen's "The Snow Queen" (the high apex of fairy-taledom if > you ask me, though I wouldn't read it to young children), and C.S. Lewis's > "The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe" (also a favorite). I played the snow queen in a play once. It was quite good, I got to wear a big white dress with a circulation-stopping bodice and speak like I had something sharp stuck up my bottom. "Gentlemen, we must join the ladies" was my big line, I think. The White Witch of Narnia used to have me and my brother hiding our angelic little faces behind cushions when the television adaptation was made - it was like Dr WHO all over again. There was a huge JELLY WRESTLING contest at school yesterday. It was great, I got sticky jelly all over my white boots. A skinny Maths teacher wrestling with an overweight Physics teacher in a paddling pool filled up with Strawberry Jelly - that just doesn't happen every day! By the end of the contest, one we had one head split open and a broken hamstring. Ouch! Polite kisses on the cheek for the tender few who have sent me photos for inclusion in the Sinister Your Slip Is Showing gallery. Everyone else hurry and get your pics in please - remember, I want photographs of your favourite clothes/shoes/pants (honey is espcially keen for underwear pics) and the address to send them to is erica.macarthur at btinternet.com. I fully expect pictures of Mark's silver shirt, Starry's op-art dress, Ally's red t-shirt, David Moore's uniform and geoff's pink vouge number by the end of next week. Say you will! Oh, and I won't be attending the poetry cafe 'do tommorow night because I'm going to the local dive to sit in the corner while my friends smooch with boys who like Muse. A member of Muse once chucked a glass of Red Wine over my Hannahdoll because she wouldn't snog him! I don't know, these tormented indie boys, they just can't take no for an answer. Hissyfits ahoy! But good luck anyway Mistopher Chris. I shall bid you adieu, as I'm sure Will would like that. Erica x http://www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Spiketooth at xxx.uk Thu Jan 27 22:56:10 2000 From: Spiketooth at xxx.uk (Greig Marshall) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:56:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pok=E9mon?= to Hefner, via Isobel and Moomins Message-ID: <3890CD0A.A3854B1E@PVCweb.co.uk> Just a fleeting thought. Does Honey have a secret cheeky reason for getting a .org rather than a .com? I am joyous to inform you all that *you* too can do an "é" by holding down Ctrl-Alt and pressing e. Try it, it's fun. >You can learn a lot from 7 year olds Lucy, especially about Pokemon, which is >bollocks right, cos in Japan ( and I'm sure someone's gonna prove me wrong >here)they call it Pocket Monsters, but over here we give it some sort of noncey >fucking handle like Pokemon. I do believe they are called "Pokémon" here so as to not confuse Pocket Monsters with the "Monster in my Pocket" toys of the 80s. Monster in my pocket were extremely poor rubber things, no substitute for Transformers. Moomins, the cartoon series was run on Children's BBC a few years ago. I watched it, I couldn't resist it but I still don't know why. I too have dreampt of Moomins but only once and it was a nice dream. Some psychology dept of a university has concluded we don't dream enough, and when we do, we forget our dreams. Strange, when I dream I don't forget if for days. Enough of this relentless not-nice-ness about Ms. Campbell's prosterior. You'll make her self-concious, and when B&S become self-concious, it'll be a very dark day for us all. I have a nice Monty Python calendar over there. See it? Beside the scanner? I wonder if anyone in an earlier time zone has one, so they can tell me what the next day's picture will be before it's 12 midnight here. That would be wizard. Finally, I sent off for a B&S poster and the Looper "Who's afraid of Y2K" 10". Apparently, the Poster is 50" x 70" and only one pound. It hasn't arrived yet, I suspect the inces was a writing error, and it's only 50x70cm. Still, that's good. Hefner are a fine band. May God Protect Your Home is ace. A bit saucy, the thing he refers to as "home" in the song, I wish I could sing like Darren. I was one of the people who helped put a decent band on the number 1 spot. I got the limited edition 10", mine's number 1027 of about 10 zillion "limited" edition vynil pressings. Enough of my pesky whitterings, I felt I had to write. Greig xx Oh, and be sure to look at the "SETI Boy" drawing in the "Look what we did today, Mummy" page. Go on. I did it, I did. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.org Thu Jan 27 23:14:20 2000 From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 23:14:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Nobody likes a rumor monger In-Reply-To: <200001271653.QAA26485@missprint.org> Message-ID: Scott Plagenhoef sez: > Well, hmm, at the risk of receiving a swift -- and probably well-deserved -- > kick to the shin from Mummy I risk making a massive faux paus for help in > solving a Looper-related (and by extension a B&S-related) puzzle. Mummy doesn't kick! She.. caresses your golden locks lulling you into a false sense of security... then puts up another scary bodypart picture... ANYWAY like lightning Stuart who wears the Looper trousers replies and has to say this about Scott's gig conundrum: > we have been asked to support the Flaming Lips on their tour from March > 9th till mid april, and just now we're trying to make sure we can > afford to do it. we're very keen to, and it's about 90% certain just > now. > > The new Looper album is out in May. Also on the subject of PANTS and things that are like PANTS, Erica MacArthur said: > SINISTER - YOUR SLIP IS SHOWING > > Clothes. Brilliant, arent they? Well, I certainly think so. Knickers, > shirts, trousers, ties....are YOU in fashion? are you one of those hipcats > with a short fringe that make me hiss like an angry cat? fear not. I want > everything. Pictures, that is - myself and honeydoll are cooking up plans. > If 5 of you send me a picture of your favourite item of clothing we're > opening a gallery. Don't spoil my fun - get snapping, and mail them to: > erica.macarthur at btinternet.com Can I add: I'd particularly like you to send in pictures of your worst clothes to Erica's gallery too. That jumper with "Sport Is Great!!" written across it that your mum gave you; the crrrrrazy pair of socks with Homer on them you got for Christmas; the undies you got when you were 10 and wear when all the others run out. And when you're sending them to Erica please send in a little line or two of text about what they are, to avoid those embarrassing exchanges such as: "oh X I love your slip-on patent leather shoes, I just bought some just like them!" "um.. actually I put them up as a joke" I can't promise an equivalent to Miss Crush matching up lovers, but wouldn't it be great if someone's worst clothing nightmare was someone else's haute couture? Odds-on it'll happen. Oh and no heads please. Heads are for the other galleries. I've promised Erica if she manages to eek at least 5 separate pictures out of you she can have her gallery :) Right, mummy's going to London for the weekend to see that nice Mr Chris Leonard do his strip act at the Poetry Cafe. So for those of you staying at home on Sinister just be aware that some listee things might have to wait til Monday. Be good and there's plenty of frozen chips in the freezer to eat if you run out of chocolate. Don't watch too much telly and BED BY NINE! Mummy xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Thu Jan 27 23:40:20 2000 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:40:20 -0500 Subject: Sinister: after the fire, the fire still burns..... Message-ID: <008d01bf691f$e02b4ce0$31511198@wfu.edu> Happy Go Lucky-- I've realized that I, as an obnoxious kid, cannot exist without sinister. I need sinister. I adore, sinister. So that is why I have resubscribed to the list, and am ready to take on the challenges entangled with all that is, being 'twee'. My trusty rainwater and grain alcohol will help me through the shadowed depths of days. Additionally, I've become wrecked with writer's block, and my short story course is sufferring terribly as a result. I need inspiration, I need adventure, I need.....smut. And lots of it boyeeeeeeeee. Will anyone be my girlfriend? Thusly, I'll begin the second generation of Blakee posts by inquiring about list news: What have I missed? What haven't I missed? Who's the list baby these days? Any listees in the Carolinas? and on the B&S front: Any news, at all? I thought I read somewhere about a Flaming Lips US tour with Looper. Is this true? Please be gentle. I've only just begun. love blake the nerdy shy eyed pacifist ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials." - Jarvis Cocker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachel at xxx.uk Fri Jan 28 00:08:28 2000 From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:08:28 -0000 Subject: Sinister: the awful title belies the quality... Message-ID: <000d01bf6923$e9337a20$cd03883e@preinstalledco> yuk.yuk.yuk.yuk.yuk.....etc. i have had exams all week they were shit can you tell? tomorrow, however, i am going to complete my record breaking attempt to miss the start of all this weeks exams bar one. that is definitely something to look forward too....i'm pissed off that i was on time for the second one now, i could have made a clean sweep! my dad bought a new remote for the telly last week, we've been without one since, ooh, september time i think. life without one has been pretty hard, i've missed teletext sooo badly, especially planet sound (music pages on ch.4). so i was really excited when i finally found planet sound (it had moved) only to discover it's in some sort of terminal decline. now i knew it could never be as good without stephen eastwood - obsessive b&s fan who wrote wicked reviews , and i'm *sure* was/is on this list - but can anyone explain this whole 'void sez' thing too me?! it's written by journalists, can they not spell?!!! and all this arse licking of celebrity relatives, what's all that about? fran healy's aunty babs can shag struan for all i care...though mind you she could do everyone a favour and tell her nephew to sort his fucking hair out! it's a mess my lad, you used to be sooo cute, and now you're beginning to resemble ade edmondson... now chris_t_opher said: >And something else i found this weekend: www.geekrock.com is part of Che >Records and to celebrate it's launch, they're giving away a free 18 track >sampler to anyone*. >* except those of you who live in Swindon i am intrigued as an oxford united fan as to why this should be...do che records just not distribute in swindon, or, far more satisfying, is it just mindless discrimination and rampant piss taking of those who are stupid enough to live there, yes you, you moonrakers* by chris?? i have to know...it's a pathetic football thing * i do not mean this btw....this is how wars start. but y'know, the mighty yellows are not looking too mighty at the mo so i need all the laughs i can get... erica macarthur had at number 3 in her 'top 5 games to play in a sweetshop' : >Hiding under the counter until someone comes right up to it and jump out on them causing them to drop their things and look silly now, although i don't work in a sweetshop (i did go for a job in thornton's once, but i think they were put off by my obsession with the staff discount...), i have often played this game behind the kiosk in the supermarket where i spend most of my time. it's GRATE!!! it is in fact so GRATE it deserves capital letters and bad spelling :-) the amount of people you scare shitless...you have to wait till they're peering over and around the counter, falteringly wondering how they will sustain their gambling/nicotine/alcohol addiction, without me, the link between product and consumer, and then, leap! bang in their face! while giving it 'oh you should have said' in a supremely condescending manner...ahh, the fun.... one that erica missed though, is my favourite: the accent changing. a different accent for each customer, especially good when all your accents are appalling...see the confusion! snigger as they can't understand a word you've said! get caught by your boss mid- welsh accent because it only confirms what he thought of you in the first place! especially when you're negotiating a full-time position with more responsibilities! oh the hilarity.... one last thing: if you buy the box set, lovely if you buy the case, lovely if you don't buy either, lovely talk, don't talk, it's up 2 you...i watch too many adverts... nighty night lots of love rachel xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Fri Jan 28 00:46:34 2000 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:46:34 -0500 Subject: Sinister: oh my . . . what the? . . . that can't be right . . . dear god! Message-ID: so i should be working on my thesis right now, but instead i was playing with my hair and found one very very very long strand of hair. i know it's mine because i plucked it right out of my own head. but jeez, is that normal? Your Slip Is Showing so i want to put a piccie of my favorite tee-shirt up on erica's page, but i can't find any on my computer. damn. wish i had a working camera. but here's the good part: while digging through my hard drive, wading through folders of crap, i came across a picture of the boy i lost my virginity to (going on 6 years since then, mymymy). i'd forgotten i had it on here (a friend sent it to me) and it gave me quite a start. so much, in fact, i burst out half screaming half laughing and nearly spilled over the back of my chair and onto the hard hard floor. but i maintained my balance, at least, if not my composure. Looper Opening For Flaming Lips at the Cubby Bear I know where the cubby bear is, tho i've never been. and i think i'd fly back to chicago solely to see stuart david recite luscious bits of prose amidst the many whitehatfratboys and their drunken girlfriends who are all graduates of U of I chambana no doubt, moved up to chicago to be where it's at. unfortunately, i don't think the cubby bear is where it's at. they should at least be drinking their lives away at that blackhawks bar over near united center of which i've forgotten the name. you know, the famous one. something about a goat. bah. i can't remember. but i'll shut up about chicago now. River Runs Dry so i'm in a bit of a dry patch in the music i listen to. i mean, i can only listen to so much palace before i get sick of it, and it's just about the only thing i own that i'm not sick of yet. i still say it would be A!C!E! if will oldham covered a b&s tune. it would be super-amazing-fantastic if they actually worked together. oh my, i'll get my mind off that topic now, as i know the improbability of it is bound to depress me if i think about it too much. for the record: my first computer was an apple IIe. i remember the day it arrived fondly. we had it until 1995, when my dad bought my mom a new computer. she misses the old one. i've never payed any attention to isobel's arse. the new misleadingly-labelled "tummy" pic is scary. -kerry "and i'll tell you, with my tongue between your toes, if there's ever anyone else, don't let them do this." -- tindersticks, "jism" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jda349 at xxx.edu Fri Jan 28 00:48:18 2000 From: jda349 at xxx.edu (Joseph Askins) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:48:18 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Time for a nap References: <200001271653.QAA26607@missprint.org> Message-ID: <3890E752.9B4A58A5@mizzou.edu> Woke around 8:00 today and took my laundry down to the wash room. Laundry has been piling up in the corner for weeks and I finally got sick of ignoring the smell of dirty socks. Everything fit in one load, but when I went down later to put the load in the dryer I noticed that the clothes weren't clean. Did I forget the detergent, or was everything packed in so tightly that it just didn't wash well? Sigh. I had to get to class, so I continued shoving the dirty damp shirts, pants, socks and underwear into a dryer with intentions of washing them in separate loads later in the day. Spanish class was a breeze. We were dismissed a little early, giving me enough time to hike over to the radio station and have some albums picked out before 11:00. No B&S today (though I did get in "String Bean Jean" and "In the Treehouse" last week), as today was almost strictly late 80s/early 90s shoegaze/dreampop. Received a couple calls from veteran DJs who were apparently very impressed with my set for the day. Seems like I'm earning a little more respect around KCOU after all. Found a couple out-of-print Slowdive EPs in the stacks and slapped them on tape before going home--made my day. Ate lunch at the makeshift Jack Hammer's dining hall at a nearby dorm. They're nearly finished with a huge "Mark Twain Market" eatery there, but I'm so accustomed to having Jack Hammer's little restaurant's sandwiches and pre-packaged salads that I'll hate to see it be replaced by a large, impersonal canteen. Blah. Barely made it to my Principles of American Journalism lecture. Shouldn't have bothered hurrying; I have to put up with enough pretentious jerks as it is, and I don't need a class full of them. Made the return to my room a heck of a lot sweeter, though. Spent the afternoon listening to Material Issue's "International Pop Overthrow," Meat Puppets' "Mirage," and Galaxie 500's "On Fire," three albums that put me in a sweet little mood. Got a call around 5:00 that my copy of "Touching From a Distance" (Deborah Curtis' book about Ian Curtis and Joy Division) was in at the University Bookstore. I ran over and picked it up, along with a copy of Saul Bellow's "To Jerusalem and Back." The only other Bellow book I've read is "The Actual," and while "Jerusalem" is a collection of non-fictional essays and memoirs, I'm sure the writing will be just as good as his fiction. Got home, popped on a tape of Gram Parsons songs my dad just sent me yesterday, and crawled in to read a bit of the Ian Curtis book. Not expecting a whole lot that I don't already know, but there's no sense for a fan not to own the book. I was about 15 pages into it when the "new mail" ping sounded from my computer. I was told that I had passed the test of time and could now participate in the Sinister mailing list. It's about time, I thought. Went back to reading my book for a while, before trying to tackle the tough job of rewriting my latest short story. It's been slow going, and I'm still nowhere near being content with it. Went back to the computer, opened the mailbox, and skimmed the latest Sinister digest once more. Joseph Askins Columbia, MO +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Fri Jan 28 05:02:36 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:02:36 EST Subject: Sinister: never seen blue Message-ID: <43.384dd1.25c27cec@aol.com> boys. suck. thats all i'm saying. especially ex boys. grr. i was in such a great mood. this evening then my exboyfriend emails me and says he stoped loving me when i got on the bus. (i moved back home and went by bus) it was a super day i slept in then i played in the snow and this evening i made cookies and danced with my dog ringo(which my mom took piccies of so i'll send them along to something soon.). my final check came in the mail from my former employee. and then. i come online this evil online....and this is the letter he sends me. greig your picture is loverly. *sticks it on the fridge* by the way. I wouldn't bother you all with this but well. my best friend is away and i have no means of contacting her. so i'm rather lonely. ciao bella/bello iris girl if you think you can turn my violator you'll finally be that woman. thats been frozen in that pretty silver girl_tori_amos_ standhere www.angelfire.com/journal/standhere/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hicks81 at xxx.com Fri Jan 28 09:21:57 2000 From: hicks81 at xxx.com (grisham ohairy) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:21:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: sinister: concerts and fran healy's dad Message-ID: <20000128092157.27666.qmail@web123.yahoomail.com> if the flaming lips are playing such a "trendy" venue, then i know how they feel. my band and i have to play a wonderfully scary venue tonite. we have to perform our songs in front of about 200 nu-metal types, who in my opinion are as bad as your run-of-the-mill townie types. estimated plastic pintglasses thrown on stage = 20. oh yeah...and someone mentioned travis somewhere? well, fran healy's dad lives just down the road from me, and apparently, he and his children (fran's step-brothers and sisters) have been trying to get in contact with him, just because, not for any money or anything, and he has allegedly totally ignored them. makes you think, doesn't it?! i always had him down as a nice young man too... mr matthew hicks marvel at my aceness at: www.melatonin.freeserve.co.uk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Fri Jan 28 10:43:55 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 02:43:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: outside a butchers with a knife and a bike chain? Message-ID: <20000128104355.7134.qmail@web603.mail.yahoo.com> thanks to stephen hewitt for solving my "why have I read all my sinister mails?" problem. apparently, its cos I was avoiding real work,ie studying. So yay! exams are over! and I have a lot to read in my inbox! and I feel normal again! And I got some gorgeous jeans yesterday, all flared at the bottom, and lovely and snug around the bottom and the thighs. Feels damn sexy to walk around in. so if anyone sees a girl prancing about in norwich (with a pair of new jeans on) its prolly me getting my post teenage kicks from some denim. my flatmates are annoying the hell out of me, I quit smoking again....although I'm gasping, and I'm having fantasies about how I could murder the more annoying of the flatmates I live with. Irritating selfish fucked up whiney muddafunkin' arrogant castration-fearin' elvis-lovin' r-sole. the boy has no idea about anything, and is a tosser towarfds women. it makes me realise, that perhaps I should have done a degree in genetical engineering, instead of languages (studying 4 in all...) and developed a way of removing all hormones from the male, leaving just enough chromosomes to create a willy and some testicles. therefore removing male arrogance and sodding I'm-always-right-and-you-don't-know-what-your-talking-about-woman! attitudes forever. Anyone got an ex boyfriend they wish me to practise on? So do I kill him by strangling him with my tights or an accidental knife in the back? or do I just change the fuse on his stereo so that it blows up? Any ideas? Okay, time to go and do something destructive. Cherrypips *evil cackle* IdleBerry ===== visit the idle site:www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/5117 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MBP99KLC at xxx.uk Fri Jan 28 10:00:15 2000 From: MBP99KLC at xxx.uk (Katy) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:00:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Musicality Message-ID: Don't you hate it when you hear songs that are nice enough but make you think, I'm sure I could do that with a guitar and an hour or two to spare? What's great is when you hear a song and think, I could never write this, it's magic. It makes me think music can be magic when I hear:- * little drum intros that mean my favourite song is about to kick in, like on the Field Mice "This Love is Not Wrong" or Billy Bragg's "Sexuality" * the "whoo"s in the background of "Sleep the Clock Around" and the "ooh"s in the intro of Pavement's "Silence Kid" * songs that are just pure magic through and through, like the Pixies' "Debaser" I think it was Honey that said you should go to every Billy Bragg gig. This was true. katy x "So drunk in the August sun And you're the kind of girl I like Because you're empty, and I'm empty" - Pavement +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Fri Jan 28 11:27:04 2000 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:27:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: vinyl love affairs... Message-ID: <20000128112704.21374.qmail@web3003.mail.yahoo.com> hi there to the sinisterian land... the sun's shining showing his ugly teeth... First of all... I'd like to apologise for my previous post... writing for the list on the list... I hope honey dearest and all of you will forgive me for that... Second... all this talk about the Box Set... I won't take part in it... I guess it's OK for people who cannot find the 12s"... and as it's been already said "buy our records, support our sickness" but... I love vinyl... I love to buy it... to smell it.... to kiss it... yer, I kiss all my new records... to make them feel welcome... silly huh? to play it... it's like a ritual... I've never liked CDs from the start... you can even paint on your vinyls... and hang them on the wall (wow! blasphemy!!!) or even play them...!!! I have to share with you another story... I haven't told but my property comes only to a dog (a terrie that has a frightening similarity to St.Bernard's dogs as my best friend's noticed), a scooter, and some half used tubes of oil colours... and brushes and some camvas... yer, that's all... oh, and my records of course... the funny thing is that my dog's called Spooky... after my corridor which is very long and dark (spooky!) and Spooky used to run up and down in it... and my scooter's called Spootnik... you see, both of their names start with a "spoo"... and that was not intentional...anyway... Spooky likes to chew the plastic covers of my records... I've told her so many times that she shouldn't... that this is mere blasphemy... and you know what she did? She stared at me with a rather scornful eye under her really long eyelashes and said: "you materialistic bastard!!"... she did I swear... the only thing Spooky's afraid of is NME... I'm not messing here... we're talking about a music conscious dog... everytime she does something nusty, all I have to do is to threaten her showing her the NME... and only then she'll stop whatever it is she's doing... chewing my records, my books, my old rocking chair, whatever... and she'll run and hide under the bed... I mean... NME scares the shite off this dog... and... she loves riding on "Spootnik" as well... and... she loves music... when I play music and sing along... she moves her tail left to right in such a charming way... and she loves Belle and Sebastian... when I listen to B&S I like lying down on the floor... singing along... I love that.... she comes then and sits on my belly, looking at me in pure joy... And... finally.... as a beloved friend of mine said... we should vote for Spooky for the list crush thingie... what do you think? If Honey wouldn't object... Sorry if I bored you all to death... I thought I should be more cheerful this time... you think... "cheerful" equals "boring"? cheers, love+spookydreams V.F. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From windisch24 at xxx.com Fri Jan 28 16:22:02 2000 From: windisch24 at xxx.com (mike windisch) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:22:02 PST Subject: Sinister: bachelors and spinsters Message-ID: <20000128162202.72309.qmail@hotmail.com> hey lot, band content up top, courtesy of an aussie slang dictionary. Some quasi-poetic spiel below, courtesy of my simmering conscience and aversion to this damn day job. >>>> B & S Ball: Ball held for Bachelors and Spinsters, singles crowd, often held in the bush or a remote location and often involving copious amounts of alcohol and sometimes mud! <<<<< sounds like a hoot. perhaps in winter we can substitute snow angels for mud pies, mulled cider for alcohol, and steady sweethearts for bachelors and spinsters. On second thought, lets keep the copious amounts of booze. <<< poesy woosey infusion <<< I know the poetry parrot has flown the coop and it's friday, but a mid morning morose spell has spawned some purple prose... proceed at own risk because even the beats could do this better. sometimes even the silence isn't quiet, what with the stomach rumblings of affection extended outward with the unconscious expectation for expedited requited-ness, the streaking rage of the stress bind to a business world that rewards dilligent fakeness and proceedural conformity but affords verbally-oriented-individualist-types a compensation scheme amounting to economic impotence. Ack, upstream against that charges the blasted wrack which forces drive, drive, drive onward outward in an ecstatic strive towards euphoric alive. ahhh. so nice that alliterative euphoric alive. like a sweatheart's smile, a soft sweater against yr bare skin, or the stylish satisfactions of moving well within your body. But sadly, like a hangover that gets up before you to ruin the recollections of a perfect evening, the moments of bliss evaporate into such conditions as empty pockets, sore lips and swollen hips. I guess the problem with bathing in a fountain of youth only emerges when you dry off. The awareness of a discontinuity between you and peers that are still on track and have stoicly sidled up to the adolt responsibilites that cause rambuncious teens worldwide to pity their parents. (You know, the type of people who only ride the bus to get to work, get up early for chores on saturday morning and give you wide-eyed disapproving looks when you try to explain what you do for fun. Or the central role that fun still plays in your by-all-rights adult life) Kind of like trying to explain the appeal of b&s to those who only hear the strings, falsetto warblings and homoerotic intimations yet fail to feel the earnest emotion and honesty that has hooked us all not feeling the suchness all too much mike <> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paddyorkie at xxx.uk Fri Jan 28 17:07:07 2000 From: paddyorkie at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?nick=20kinsella?=) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:07:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: john ashdijan Message-ID: <20000128170707.14761.qmail@web1902.mail.yahoo.com> hello everyone! john ashdijan used to live in a guest house on givendale road. i know because i saw him cimong out of there on his bicycle a few times. he played football for scarborough, my (then) local team who i supported for years, who spent most of their existence wallowing in the depths of lower league football. i still support them, but more passively now (i live 300 miles away). the thing is, (stay with me here, i'm going somewhere with this. at least i should do if i ramble on long enough). anyway, the thing is, what do you do when you meet one of your heroes? sure, J.A. was a bit rubbish, but he played for my team and i watched him week in week out for years. i had an emotional attachment to everything him and his team-mates did. i was elated when they won, devastated when they lost, and long-suffering when they were bad (and at times they were very very bad indeed). but he didn't know me from adam. it was just his job to play football, not emotional obligation to me. i thought about speaking to him, but i just felt clumsy and unwieldy in my words. so he just rode off, and i never did get to speak to him. or tommy mooney, darren foreman, george oghani, steve richards. they all lived in the town, dammit. they were only ordinary people. but i guess this is what we do. we have people in our lives who exert all sorts of emotional influences on us, such as sportspeople, musicians, etc, without ever realising it. they mean alot to me, but i mean nothing to them. they don't even know i exist. i think thats one reason why i like B&S so much. there's no sense of detachment or upper-handedness. they're just people, like you and me. and they don't try to hide it, bless 'em. ho-hum. its nice to be back, by the way. i was away from you all for a while, but i'm here again now, mummy. night-night. nick ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From justin at xxx.com Fri Jan 28 21:04:50 2000 From: justin at xxx.com (Justin Williams) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:04:50 -0600 Subject: Sinister: non-B&S: Elliott Smith in Chicago Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000128145804.00941b90@delafont.com> Hi diddley iddley kids, I am extremely sorry for this blatant list abuse, but I am quite desperate. I am trying to go to the Elliott Smith show in Chicago on Feb 26. I sat for like two hours before the tickets went on sale trying to "get in line" or otherwise procure my tickets, but by the time I was able to get through to TicketWeb the tickets had sold out (in 10 minutes mind you). I have already purchased my plane tickets to Chicago, and although I know I can refund them, I want to hold onto them for as long as I can. If anyone out there happens to hear anything about two extra tickets, pleeeease e-mail me? My hope is growing rather dim. I would appreciate anything that I can get. I would even be willing to prositute myself within reason ;). Anyway, thanks for reading... Justin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dchard at xxx.ca Sat Jan 29 00:38:45 2000 From: dchard at xxx.ca (ipecac spice) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:38:45 -0400 (AST) Subject: Sinister: survivor syndrome Message-ID: hi folks. i should be going out now so i should not be e-mailing to you people, but i couldn't resist. i have been having very strange dreams lately. mostly about haunted/creepy houses. last night i dreampt that i was in this big building (something of a ruin) with no roof and we were all looking at this inflated building that was for sale when someone knocked it over. it was really big so it was a bit scary. then we were being hit by astroids or missile or something, but they looked computer animated. then i passed out or something and came to and my bestfriend was gone and it had snowed. those of us left had to hike out in the snow. it was like after some sort of armagedon and during an iceage. very weird. anyone care to interpret? today at work 3 people got layed-off. i felt really guilty for getting to stay and really bad for them b/c they are (with the exception of 1) great wonderful people. part of me is glad to still have a job and part of me feels shitty for getting to stay when others had to go. what a strange feeling it was... ok, i'm going out. have a good weekend everybody! -di "i respect those who have faith even though they are ignorant" -hemingway +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Sat Jan 29 01:02:26 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:02:26 EST Subject: Sinister: made in the shade Message-ID: <9.169a28c.25c39622@aol.com> hello. i went to a local record shop today to see if perchance they had even heard of B&S. the sales girl just stared at me in bewilderment. poor thing. they do have the worst selection in the 'pop/rock' department. sigh. oh well. they did have breeders which is good. my old cd is worn out. it skips something terrible. oh well. so on a lighter note i have a listcrush. how special do i feel. i must say it's been the highlight of my day. which is really sad. but thanks to whomever it is. hehe. well today ismy nana's birthday and i bought her a lovely crystal decanter with a blue flower type lid. for her whiskey. for myself i purchased an adorable pair of red maryjane slippers. the type you know from areas like china town? thecloth ones. i haven't the foggiest idea what their real name is. although i didn't buy mine from china town. but from tjmaxx.. 'the maxx for the minimum' i need to get out more. well i hope you all have a loverly weekend. be safe. ciao bella/bello iris stand still stand in front of the light. stand here. so i can i can see your sillohuette...._ani_difranco_ standhere www.angelfire.com/journal/standhere/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Sat Jan 29 16:03:24 2000 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:03:24 -0500 Subject: Sinister: blue Message-ID: <200001291103_MC2-96D7-FE5D@compuserve.com> I know it's not B&S releated but I have to tell some one so I picked on you. I live in a road, well, it's kind of like a close, but it's a road, anyway, you can see into everyone's houses if they haven't got their curtains closed. And my house is on a bit of a hill so they can't really see into mine, but I can see into their's. Around Christmas time a young woman moved in to a first floor flat opposite, she's about 25 years old and quite good looking. Anyway, in the reflection of her living room window I can see the car parking space of my parents so when they go out I can see that their white Honda isn't there and when they come back it's visable. I use this as an 'early warning' system for when I'm on the Internet - I think you know what I mean :) Anyway, every now and then I have to peer out to look, I think she thinks that I'm looking at her but I'm not, it's the reflection. Anyway, lastnight I noticed that the curtains were not full drawn, I was gazing innocently at this and thinking about stuff when I saw through the gap - whitch was about a foot wide - the young lady in question get up from the floor followed by her boyfriend. Both bodies were devoid of clothing. I couldn't beleave my eyes, of was it my luck??? Then, imaging my delight when I saw the two star crossed lovers retire to the bedroom, then, well, gosh, I could see both their legs intwined and the bed was mooving in rythem* to the Barry White I thought I could hear. I SAW TWO PEOPLE DOING IT LAST NIGHT. That's all *get it, rythem, ha ha ha. Gayle, I promise I'll write soon, I've been busy, and I owe you a tape for being so patient. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 50158120 at xxx.hk Sat Jan 29 16:03:51 2000 From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 00:03:51 +0800 Subject: Sinister: September Spawn a Monster Message-ID: <949161831.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk> Dear Girls and Boys, This is ma frist post. ME ME ME: I am 22, tall boy silm, TOO silm. in another word, Weak. I dun like sport except Chinese Martial Art(I'm a Hong-Konger). I luv Movies(Blow Up, Quadrophenia, 400 Blows, Breathless, Ah Ying, Happy Together, Picnic....), so i go to the School of Creative Media(www.cityu.edu.hk/scm) and i luv books(Murakami) and Music (B n S, Morrissey, VU, Blur, dance stuff, darkwave stuff....etc) B n S/ B n S Tee I only ve Tigermilk,TBWTAS and TIJAMRS. I luv B n S so much Wanna get the Tee. It is a good tee for a good band. I think Blur's Tee is Bad Tee for a Good Band. Some Oasis Tee is Good Tee for a bad band. Durgs and Sex Last Nite i went to a Hip Hop Party. The Veune is on 9/f and they huv chill out roof top. Some kids who ve been kicked out coz they are too young. They ve taken E. My mate wanna get some and a 17 yr old girls said his "Bros" can get it. The A1 cost the sum of one B n S LP plus one ep. I ve never thought of take E, even Morrissey takes them. I saw a MC smoke weed and ask him ... he can't sell to me. And i just ask him to let me take a bit. he pass it around for his mates to share it. it has nothing done to me... just a bit of relax.. maybe i just suck it in to my lung 3 or 4 times. I wanna get one but it is hard to get that luvly plant in Hong Kong. Fuck the E. This is the first time i ve weed. It is like the 1st time u huv sex: not as good as u expected. Toby Chan personal.cityu.edu.hk/~50158120/project +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Sat Jan 29 16:08:46 2000 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:08:46 -0500 Subject: Sinister: still blue Message-ID: <200001291109_MC2-96DE-57A@compuserve.com> I always think of something good to say after I've sent something. Anyway, my last post, I was thinking, as this 'first computer' think is largely dead, how about a 'embarrissing-things-you've-seen-but-were-too-embarrised-to-talk-about" string. People could write about things that they've seen that are, erm, slightly, well, you know. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From drug_dru at xxx.com Sat Jan 29 16:27:00 2000 From: drug_dru at xxx.com (the boy with the arab strap) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 16:27:00 GMT Subject: Sinister: Hi Not Toby Chan's Best Mate Message-ID: <20000129162700.82801.qmail@hotmail.com> Hallo little ones , although i m from HongKong as well , unlike Toby Chan , i m classy , young , elegant and gay . I m a huge Belle and Sebastian fan , and try very hard to get some mates through the net . never went to any messy party / orgy ( wanna try ) , never have 3 some , never have had a one - night stand . but i enjoy sex , either one on one , or DIY . I write stories , poems , try to write songs , and lyrics ;I draw , sing and kiss . I try to afford using Chinese , for example , i only know how to flirt in English , maybe some French . glad to hear any reply . Ta Linus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com Sat Jan 29 16:35:10 2000 From: andrew_ch_99 at xxx.com (Andrew CHurchman) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:35:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: new to the list. Message-ID: <20000129163510.26090.qmail@web1608.mail.yahoo.com> hello everyone, this is my first post to the list. um... my name's andrew, i'm 17 and a junior in highschool. i live in boring new jersey.... i've been really impressed by the list so far, everyone seems really cool and "family-like". anyway, i adore Belle and Sebastian, and it's so cool to know there's other people that like them. That may sound weird but noone knows about them were i live... i'm also into noisier bands like trumans water, i'm being good, polvo, sonic youth... but Belle and Sebastian have completely changed my life and love them very much. things have been weird in my life recentely. i've been in love with this girl and we hung out all the time, i even made her a B+S tape, and i "thought" things were going well until, she told me rather bluntly on a train back from NYC that she doesn't want to go out. wich hurt a little... does any one have any adivce? is it worth it to still "be friends" even though i'm still so smitten? anyway, it's snowing out side and i should really take a shower, i'm excited to be a part of this list and i hope everyone has a great weekend. bye. -------- andrew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dee at xxx.ie Sat Jan 29 16:55:37 2000 From: dee at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 16:55:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: you are too late !!! Message-ID: if you want to take some pictures of the fascinating witches who put the scintillating stitches in the breeches of the boys who put the powder on the noses of the faces of the ladies of the harem of the court of king caractacus YOU 'RE TOO LATE BECAUSE THEY HAVE JUST PASSED BY !!!!!!!! ________________________ Denise Power;BA,Tutor Dept. of Classics, K209- Postgrad Room, University College Dublin. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Sat Jan 29 22:41:42 2000 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:41:42 EST Subject: Sinister: Belle and the boy thebathtiaaaaaaaan Message-ID: <17.11f244a.25c4c6a6@aol.com> Ha-h'm, Hi everyone. Fudge, i leave my e mail for 5 days and i come back to 1023 e mails, mostly from sinister. Still, I've only got 243 to go...sigh. I tried to join a drama class today, and I was really determined. I got up at pure 9.00am (on a saturday!), and walked up there in the rain, and I was really excited at the thought of having something new to do. Then I got there, and they told me to go away because they were all full up. So I spent the day in the library reading about ships, and then went to burger king with my friend and got my face painted. But because I'm not 6, I looked like a drag queen. And my friend said that I wouldn't be able to go out without getting a beating. So I went to wash it off in the loo, and who came in but THE TWO COOLEST AND HARDEST GIRLS IN THE WHOLE SCHOOL! And me with my face painted like a bluddy purple and yellow bunny rabbit who's gone amock in a glittery bright pink and pee coloured eye make up factory. So I think i'll pretend I'm sick on monday. Someone told me to "f*ck off back to swap shop where you f*cking belong and get a f*cking decent hair cut" today. It probably wasn't best to point out that their socks were over their kappa bottoms. I let my friend hear belle and sebastian. I was kinda scared that she might like them, because I like to keep all my things special from her. In case she steals all my special things and makes them hers. She's like that. She said they were crap, and that Stuart M sounded like someone was giving him an enema. A spiked one. She got that phrase from me. Everyone seems to be breaking up with their boyfriends, and it's almost valentines day as well. Ok, well it's actually ages to valentines day but that's not the point. I might send a card to someone. The guy called Barry. Sorry that this mail is a bit crap. I don't think I should have let my mum give me cider. Jen xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dchard at xxx.ca Sun Jan 30 00:14:35 2000 From: dchard at xxx.ca (ipecac spice) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:14:35 -0400 (AST) Subject: Sinister: all the horny boys Message-ID: as i typed the subject line i realised that i don't know if it should be "horney" or "horny". anyone know? those were interesting messages from you boys in hong kong and from robert. lots of sex talk. has anyone seen those pants that are in the stores lately with ribbons and beads or rhinestones around the leg bottoms? i was thinking of decorating some old pants b/c it would be way cheaper and i'm sure i'd get bored of them too quickly to be worth buying new ones. so i was wondering if anyone knows if glue gunning rhinestones to pants is a bad idea? would that work? otherwise, how do you attach them? why do we (girls mostly i suppose) usually take so much better care of our fingernails? toenails just get cut, possibly polish in the summer. but fingernails get so much more attention. i suppose it's true of feet and hands overall. we stand on our poor feet all day and yet give all our attention to our fingers. ok, i know, i've been working too long. bye, di "i respect those who have faith even though they are ignorant" -hemingway +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Sun Jan 30 03:10:28 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 22:10:28 EST Subject: Sinister: just another fix. can i weather this? Message-ID: hello hello hello. i'm just going to leave all the sex talk alone as myself being celibate. or born again virgin in some areas. I am insanely anal about my feet. one i think all feet are gross.therefore i must buff and polish and smooth my toes to my heels nightly. i put lotion on my feet and sleep with socks on too. it helps keep them smooth. but its funny i can't grow fingernails to save my life. mostly tho it's because i like to pot. and it's too messy with long nails. embarrassing things seen but too embarrassed to tell...hrm...well considering not much embarrasses me. and i talk too much. i doubt this will ever apply to me. haha. my best friend was supposed to come home today. she didnt'. i went all the way downtown this morning with hellish icy roads. and gave cigarettes to homeless people at the bus station waiting for her. there was this poor woman asking me if i knew of any shelters and i used to work for one but not that i could remember any numbers. i recommended the phonebook. i think perhaps she was on drugs or alcohol. she seemed terribly disorriented. or she could have been insane. i dunno. i wish i had a million dollars. homeless people are like animals to me i want to take them all in and take care of them. as long as they aren't rabid. well i've BS'd enough take care all. ciao bella/bello iris no bye. no aloha._the_breeders_ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From timmymc at xxx.net Sun Jan 30 03:36:05 2000 From: timmymc at xxx.net (Timmy) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 03:36:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Why is it only blokes who are up for it? References: Message-ID: <001301bf6ad3$271207c0$c10d063e@Yahoo> GOD One must remain izinlove with'da geezas coz they iz betta dan the women. At least in Manchester anyway. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jda349 at xxx.edu Sun Jan 30 06:12:36 2000 From: jda349 at xxx.edu (Joseph Askins) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 00:12:36 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Snow and film References: <200001281046.KAA25504@missprint.org> Message-ID: <3893D654.1CDBE4A4@mizzou.edu> Woke late today and spent a good part of the day looking out the window at all the snow blanketed on the ground. I had my fun in it the night before and have the snowball-induced bruises to show. Since then it's been snowing on and off, transforming Columbia (and the rest of mid-Missouri) into a winter wonderland. I love snow, as long as the space heater is working. Recieved a package from my parents today. My dad was sending up a new electric shaver and a coffee mug, and threw in some more new tapes. He had put some more of his old Gram Parsons and Bob Dylan records on tape, along with a new alt-country compilation. Also, down at the bottom of the box, sat the (semi) new Clash live CD. I dunno why I hadn't bought it when it came out, and I dunno how he knew I didn't have it. Bless that man... Went to the films with some friends tonight. A local troupe (guess you could call it that) by the name of Ragtag has been bringing in some great independent films, new and old, over the past few months, and this latest season is proving to be quite exciting. Last week it was the newly-remastered "Rear Window," and this week it was the Japanese animated film, "Princess Mononoke." I'm in love. I want one of those cute white tree spirits. The film was shown at the Blue Note (the local music venue), and I took my spot up in the surrounding balcony. Turned out to be the best seat in the house...didn't have to stare over anyone's head. There were four girls down in the seats below that kept glancing up at me during the intermissions. Did I do anything? Did I make a move? Sigh...yeah right. I hiked back home, through snow and ice, all alone. Such is life. JDA +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From no_surprises_21 at xxx.com Sun Jan 30 06:38:43 2000 From: no_surprises_21 at xxx.com (Chris Heil) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 22:38:43 PST Subject: Sinister: attention east coast sinisterians Message-ID: <20000130063843.459.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello all. I was just wondering if anyone from the list was going to either Morrissey show in february. The NYC roseland show or the show in red bank ,NJ? I've never met any of you and I thought maybe I'd get the chance at one of these shows. Well let me know if your not shy. Chris ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rclander at xxx.net Sun Jan 30 11:21:17 2000 From: rclander at xxx.net (Richard Lander) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:21:17 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Hong Kong Message-ID: <004201bf6b14$21c2dd80$2ff951ca@richardl> Evening all Been a long time since I posted to the list, babies, hectic and time consuming job being my excuse. The last time I posted was as Typhoon York was about to hit HK in September last year. Anyway, I'm still here, glancing through the mail that drops out my computer every day. I even finally got round to sending Listmummy Honey my photo in after being on the list for 2 years in last September. A few weeks ago I was in a shop in our village, the radio was tuned to one of the Chinese language channels. Then suddenly I heard a familiar musical sound. They were playing Mary Jo. Well today I noticed we have two new Hong Kong subscribers who have joined the list recently. So I thought it timely to mention to any HK subscribers that theres actually 3 other Sinistereens in HK. We get together on a semi regular basis and should you wish to drop by let me know at rclander at netfront.net . However I think I should add that theres just chatting about music, having a laugh and having a drink. All are welcome. The Year of the Dragon is nearly upon us. Kung Hei Fat Choi Richard +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dunca_chap at xxx.com Sun Jan 30 11:21:46 2000 From: dunca_chap at xxx.com (Adam Chapman) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:21:46 GMT Subject: Sinister: bachelors and spinsters Message-ID: <20000130112146.7193.qmail@hotmail.com> Mike spaketh; >(You know, the type of people who only ride the bus to get to work, get up >early for chores on saturday morning and give you wide-eyed disapproving >looks when you try to explain what you do for fun. Or the central role that >fun still plays in your by-all-rights adult life) > Rather spookily, this isn't a bad description of myself [though the dissapproving looks are usually reserved for me, i have an unnecessarily open mind as to what constitutes *fun* #. And yes I CAN hear you sniggering at the back, so stop it...], though the only reason i get up on Saturday mornings is so i can have the shower and kitchen to myself, before the rest of the slobs i am compelled to live with get as close as they can to vertical [Ah, the joys of life in UEA halls of residense]. This unfortueately means fighting my way to the toaster, and thus tidying the kitchen on route. >Kind of like trying to explain the appeal of b&s to those who only hear the >strings, falsetto warblings and homoerotic intimations yet fail to feel the >earnest emotion and honesty that has hooked us all This actually sounds familiar, its the reaction i get every time i try to explain the relevance of B+S, which is why i gave up, and nowadays give them a tape or lend them a cd - this works a lot better, though getting the cd back can often be a pain in the Aspedestra, but not as bad as trying to find 'Bonnie Prince Billy' or 'Magnetic Fields' cds in Norwich... # Many people for example believe that cycling is an unnecessarily dangerous and wasteful occupation - I disagree, overtaking car drivers whilst being sworn at for the privilege is enormous fun... 'til whenever, Adam 'If you can't make them think, at least make them sing...' ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From smiley.rebelmonkey at xxx.net Wed Jan 26 21:57:30 2000 From: smiley.rebelmonkey at xxx.net (Mr Smiley) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:57:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Hear the cry of the Holy Cow, only God can saveus now Message-ID: <000801bf6a5e$904b7e80$53558cd4@richardstesco.net> Bonjour, In another of my increasingly regular posts, I will have to attempt a story. It's a true one, mind, so the plot should be fairly easy to conjure up. One day I went to Sheffield on the train. I was on my own, and it was 0800 hours. It was bloody cold (December). I was about to walk out the station when I noticed I had a little time to kill. So I went into WH Smith and got myself a Melody Maker. Clutching this learned tome I looked around for somewhere to sit and read it. Now, if any of you ever go to Sheffield (and even Mr Rob Taylor will surely agree with this) you should never, ever, stand still for one second in the train station. One of three things will happen: 1) A wide eyed druggy will force feed you a leaflet about some God awful club, with the phrase "do yer go clubbin' an' drinkin' in Sheffield at all?" 2) Someone will regale you with a 'sad' tale of how they lost their wallet containing their train ticket and all their money, and how they'd really like it if you'd give them £5 for a 'new ticket'. 3) For every two seconds you remain stationary, one person will ask you for a light/cigarettes. Anyway, I stood still and none of these things happened, must have been a good day. What did happen, was that a shabby old man shuffled up to me and started talking to me. I can't remember what about, because my mind was racing in a search for a way out of this. I recall him talking about how he hadn't worked for years, and unemployment was really, really difficult. At this point it probably wasn't wise to tell him that this was the day I started my new job. But I did anyway, to avoid a nasty silence. I finally made my excuses and left. I went to work, which is another story I've already told. At 1630 hours I made my way back. I hadn't given any thought during the day to the old man at the station, and it was too cold and I was too tired to think about it while I was talking to him. But as I went for my return train he was still there, talking to someone else. It's at this point that I realise this old(ish) man hasn't quite reached retirement age, but is too old to get a job. And the only way he can fill his days is to go down to the train station and talk to people all day. He wasn't drunk or mad, he was quite civil. Makes you think, doesn't it. Au revoir, Mr Smiley PS. Yes I know, for an irrelevant post this one was pretty long. But the old guy seems like the type of person you could write a song about. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Sun Jan 30 18:51:49 2000 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:51:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Mrs Murdoch's state agency Message-ID: Helloooo: We were coming back from Sunday shopping at local Sainsbury's and just right after a stop to eat some fresh bread and drink some orange juice from the bags like if we were homeless, we made out this across the road : 'ANGELA MURDOCH, student homes' where there used to be a junk-shop. This junk-shop was curious enough itself,children were not allowed inside as if they were little beasts and basically sold primitive pick-ups and record-players, apart from being placed in the downstairs floor of a common house, not quite like a commercial space,let's say. So, is Mrs Murdoch behind this up-and-coming new state agency in Lenton,our fav studenty area in Nottingham? does it mean a shared interest by the rest of the members in the Murdoch family in improving the average student life, and providing them , not only with houses but with whatever is needed to get a 'HOME'? Any answers from the one and only Mrs Murdoch ? Was Angela her first name? More info in next chapters A. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather-boa at xxx.com Sun Jan 30 21:55:05 2000 From: feather-boa at xxx.com (feather boa) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 13:55:05 -0800 Subject: Sinister: me again Message-ID: hello. i had an urge to tell you things. my friend glenn has gone up to birmingham to be in a play that is going to tour primary schools. he's going to be away for 10 weeks, we went out last nite to say bye bye. i miss him already. i once walked in on my brother masturbating, which is a bit disconcerting. i dreamed on friday nite that i was a man, and carrying on an affair with a married woman who i couldn't give real pleasure to, because i came too quickly, on account of the excitement i felt from having masculine equiptment. b&s content? i've said all my b&s content. i heard that sfa are going to be at atp, but i've got a-levels and i can't go. so it goes. pip pip, FB X --- man is least himself when he talks in his own person. give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. oscar wilde *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From oon_oon at xxx.com Sun Jan 30 17:41:16 2000 From: oon_oon at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?oon=20oon?=) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:41:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: When the rhythm start to play Dance with me Make me sway Message-ID: <20000130174116.17149.qmail@web1804.mail.yahoo.com> hi everyone, my name is oon. I used to be on the list. But not now because my computer has become Chinese. which is one of the languages i ALMOST understand. however,I still read the archive sometime so Miss Honey graciously allows me to write a little. i live in Bangkok, Thailand. if you're one of those people who sometime see strange country on the map and not entirely convinced that it actually exists, you're welcome to visit me. how're you doing? myself have a GRATE winter. (just to prove, once again, that i read the archive) it's been really cold winter. seriously! the weather was actually very very cold. It's so cold we could wore all those winter clothes like woolly, padded jackets, scarves, gloves, boots, and all other thick things. Gave Bangkok wonderful surreal ambience. ie. like you're on drug the whole time. because it didn't look like Bangkok and Bangkok people and yet it was. i've been in good mood for the whole month. partly due to the extent of shopping the good weather allowed. i even broke my own item per minute record. which is a bad bad thing to do. sigh... that's the only Thai news i have today. that our winter was really cold. then it's hot again for a while. right now it's not cold but still nice enough. things are now back to reality. and i am back to work and misery. (oooooh rhyming!!!!) not that i didn't work in winter, but when weather is cold there's much more important things to do. or i should just say only one important thing to do, which is having fun. i had a gypsy card reading (or Tarot Card?) last night. seemed that i'll be stuck at this job for a long time. how sad. other things seemed to be well enough. i also have a bad throat right now. doctor gave a "shut up" order so i've been quiet for the last few days. but yesterday Fluke had a graduation ceremony. so i talked a lot. speaking of Fluke (some of you may have met him in chat, yes?), he's going to US to study Master. in Washington DC at first. anyone here in DC or nearby? because he's never been to US before i'd be grateful if someone could kindly give him some advice on where to have fun. that's probably all he needs. advice on serious matter he can get easily enough from other source. with all the honour i have, i can guarantee that Fluke is a lovely person so have no fear and email me at oon_oon at yahoo.com please. he's leaving in March i think. sad : ( speaking of leaving and moving, anyone got Mr Miller a job yet? what about teaching job? i'm not sure if you'll be allowed to teach small children but there's always teacher job, isn't there? at least in Thailand there's always english teacher job all the time. and i bet Mrs Miller will like my country too. i'll even throw in some more incentive since you're such good Thai news reporter. you can pick one of these..... a. elephant ride b. foot massage session c. head in alligators' mouth show d. Thai boxing lesson um i can't think of anything else right now. will that do? Speaking of Mr Miller, i have a dream about him to tell. and what an exciting dream that was! think Speed bus. think Butch Cassidy & Sundance Kid. you get picture. Mr Miller was Butch, keith was Sundance. Keith was driving the bus. Peter had hugh green hair, like an 80's punk and swore ALL the time. in Thai. they stole the bus to cross the very dusty mexican border. cops were shooting after us. I was bus passenger. the escape was very exciting. the bus was half full of people but i can't remember other people. only the lovely MIss Honey, who was kniting. i remember Honey because of the way she looked. just think Bridget Barfot ( in the sixties, please) However, this wasn't just random dream like people usually have because I know where it came from. Butch was on telly when i went to sleep. before i went home, i saw people shooting. i went to a bar and was very much enjoying myself. which was quite something since it's drum and bass night. normally the kind of music that would have me fall asleep in half an hour. then i walked out to go home. and on the other side of the street, i saw a shooting. the first time i ever i saw* with my own eyes! first there's fighting, then bottle breaking. Then i saw people drawing gun. Then shooting! at this point all eager onlookers scattered away at the speed of light. one second i was standing there, another second i was cowering inside car. amazing! *maybe saw is not correct word. it's very late and my eyes had become too small to see anything beyond my own hand. Those people could have been tangoing for all i saw. Lucky there's still someone with good eyes to narrate. Last time i saw people really fighting must be years ago. How nostalgic. In a bad way. Only the honey's kniting part i can't think where it came from. i bet Stuart M was in the bus too. he's a regular. heaven bless him. can i quickly say something here? i hardly have time to do email lately plus everything i have in my old computer is all gone so i don't have many people address. sorry. Pam&Mike-Thank you so much for the lovely card! my Thai postcard serie will continue in timely manner soon. Adrian-have you get the photo in Krabi done yet? please send the good one soon. i need some beach photo, thanks. David-have i told you the t-shirt yet? if not, it's H&T Here and There and i 'm very very sorry! Richard (Lander)-i'm thinking of going to either Hongkong or Singapore after Chinese new year. could you please tell me if there's many secondhand record shops there? is it any good? and is it true that many nice shopping spots on Nathan Rd. has now become Chinese medicine shops? Kevan, i really really hope that Beepsterworld won't appear in my dream or i'll send you bill for my therapy sessions :) Mr Chris, it's too late to say Break a Leg for your London show. so i'll say something else. in case you played badly - it could be worse! in case you played brilliantly - a big hug and congratulations :) and as you may know, it's Chinese new year next week, i have every intention of doing proper tidying and sleep a lot. HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR EVERYONE! and to everyone i've not say Happy New Year to before, HAPPY NEW YEAR! oon xxx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.borgia at xxx.ca Mon Jan 31 02:59:35 2000 From: alexander.borgia at xxx.ca (Alexander Borgia) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 21:59:35 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Get astronomy binoculars - they're great for looking in windows at night. Message-ID: <3894FA97.20A96099@sympatico.ca> Good bye Sini-Sunday, Monday fast approaches. The Major would like to report that all is normal and he has returned to HQ after inspecting the field station. He was pretty excited because the server he plays Quake Arena on is called QuakeShit.com and he gets to say a bad word. He watched Mickey Blue Eyes this weekend and thought the funniest part was the Chinese lady screaming, "Eat the fucking cookie." Then seeing that there was art in the movie that had naked lady paintings, he drew his first nude. It's sort of a Reubans style drawing, but in yellow waxed crayon. I'm not sure if I should put this on the fridge or not. Watching him play Quake Arena is quite enjoyable, although luckily it only lasts a few days and then there is a break. I understand what soldiers hear all day while in a battle zone....for those unfamiliar with the game, it is a first person shooter type game with very good quality graphics which is played over the internet in gladiator style Arenas. There are different characters that you can select, some of them female. When the Major plays there is the sounds of the weapons exploding, the flesh flying, screams of death, music and the added surround sound provided by the Major himself. This includes sarcastic commentary, general noises that only an 8 year-old boy could make, offering play observations about anyone who plays in the game that contains a bad word in their name, and songs ad-libbed. Keep in mind that he attends Catholic school and is learning all the hymns and church songs so much of his singing while playing the game is religious songs with new lyric involving aliens and bloody death, but once in a while I think I hear some B&S in there.. He's also got this thing about only playing on the blue team, and he doesn't like bikers for some reason. He's also pretty excited about the clan website I started making him. He really enjoys boasting about his websites (unlike me who lets people happen upon mine), although he never answers his mail, nor actually does any work on it. Here's the link if you want to see it: http://www.angelfire.com/games/lizardsquad/ I should mention that the embedded wavs aren't working properly and I will fix them. One of the sounds in the game that is most enjoyable is the exclamation made by one of the female characters when she jumps. It definitely sounds sexual, such as those sounds associated with thrusting, and it makes me think of a fellow listee, she knows who she is. I also get that feeling listening to Lazy Line Painter Jane. Speaking of exclaimations, I learned last week that they don't really like it when you exclaim "Bullshit!" in a meeting. Particularly if what the person is saying is indeed bullshit and they look stupid. Yes, they are still trying to promote me, despite me not seeking career advancement. Now they are going to buy me a bunch of cool toys. [abrupt stop] We interupt this e-mail to inform you that this e-mail will not be interupted by the regularly scheduled Sini-Crush 2000 Special Feature interuption. This special issue was to focus on how it was observed that the leaders on the list crush have been gaining votes without posting, yet they were discovered to be quite active in the Sinister Chat Room on IRC. The special team of analysts from the firm Bear, Bear, Bear, and Nephew, and Son were sent to investigate this and see if there was any connection. Very early yesterday the special team of analysts locked themselves in a room to spend time on IRC. After 14 hours of intense investigation, one of the team members came out of the room and returned quickly with a jar of honey, supposedly for nourishment. Later a delivery of pizza and 200 Wet-Naps was received. The pizza and Wet-Naps were to be slid under the door but this caused the toppings to scrape off and those had to be pushed under with a spatula. They took the spatula. Today it was discovered that the team had yet to actually find the Sinister chatroom and had spent the entire day and last night in a cybersex chat room. This morning a note was passed under the door from inside the room that formed the report that was due regarding the Sinister Chat Room, unfortunately the list crush was not mentioned. The team of analysts would like it known that dust bunnies are in no way associated with lust bunnies, in fact, they are not even of the genus Lapins, and should be kept away from honey. They would also like to pass a message to the "guy who was pretending to be a bi-curious woman" who was recently chatting with "Candy Bubble." They would like to say: Please come back. They have the spatula and want to know what to do next? Stay Tuned Next Week when we'll have another Sini-Crush Special Feature. We now return you to the e-mail in progress. [end interuption] I'm starting to work out the plans from my trip to Europe later this Spring. So far I have decided that I will most likely be going in late May, or early June. I'll most likely be going for 2 or 3 weeks, and beyond knowing for sure I am going to France and Holland, that's about all that has been decided so far. I had thought about getting some t-shirt made up that say, "Alexander Borgia - European Sex Tour 2000" but seeing how well I am doing on the list crush I would probably end up with all the t-shirts and people would laugh at me and say that I could've stayed home to do that. I guess I will just concentrate on what the trip is actually for and do my research. While we're still on that subject.... Wanker. I have always been under the assumption that wanker was the British equivalent of a "jerk-off," and that wanking was indeed masturbation. I assumed that traditional wanking was something done with a thick catalogue full of pictures of the same woman wearing different styles of old lady underwear. It would seem that it has alternate meanings, but I'm not going to trust any of you though. This is a sinister list and we are supposed to be sinister so I think you are all playing a trick on me for when I am in England the same way I play tricks on people by telling them French phrases that are totally smutty and they think they are ordering poached eggs. An observation today.....as many of you know, this weekend is a nomadic weekend for many students. I noticed today that you can tell how close the guys helping the girls to move are by watching how much care they take when moving the mattress. If a guy ain't spending time on it, it seems to tumble down the stairs and not get covered in the drizzle. Pay attention girls.....your comfort is at stake. With that I leave you good night.... Alexander +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Mon Jan 31 03:45:48 2000 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:45:48 -0500 Subject: Sinister: smut Message-ID: <000e01bf6b9d$a9f97a40$31511198@wfu.edu> within this weekend i came upon several epiphanies, and i shall digress and explain them accordingly: 1) tums spelled backwards is smut. take that as you will. i believe this seemingly innocent tummy-aching remedy is really a mask for an internet pornography ring run by smutmasters. 2) i went to a cabin in the woods in boone, north carolina this weekend and i learned that grain alcohol and rainwater, in addition to a blizzard outside, can make for a nasty hangover, especially when there's no tylenol in the cabin itself and the headache is one straight out of hades. 3) i found the sinister body parts page, even though i've received no replies giving me sinister/b&s info/gossip. and i will admit, i have immediately fallen in love with the girl who took the picture of her shoulder, and sent it in. she has pigtails. i'm melting. yo, shoulda chick, will you be my valentine? please answer because i'm lovesick and need good love news. but hey, what's new? i'm always heartbroken. like old carnival rides that get dusty whilst their bellies remain quarter-less. oh, what a shame. i'm dreaming, from the waist on down.... love blake the nerdy shy-eyed pacifist ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials." - Jarvis Cocker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Januarythaw at xxx.com Mon Jan 31 11:38:16 2000 From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 06:38:16 EST Subject: Sinister: i love fuzzy aminals;elmira style Message-ID: blah. it's five in the am. and i'm still awake, don't ask me why. i don't know. well haha the saga continues i feel like i belong on days of our lives or some other overly dramatic soap opera. (why do they call them soap operas anyhow?) my kitty the one i thought was prego is not. but she's just come into 'season' and well jeez. i'm just glad we human females don't roll around on the ground purring and sticking our hind quarters in the air like that. (i've just realised how perverse that is. and i'm sure there is some pornographic film of this caliber out there somewhere) i found Ringo in my living room tonight eating the stuffing out of a couch pillow. i've yet to find the rest of the pillow. lalala-musical interlude-i'm sorry i'm just a little punch drunk tired(insane)- i would go to sleep but i have things to do early morning time so there is no point. sigh. i was at the 'official' site tonight for B&S with jeepster. and that random site thing is nice. i've found several 'fun' pages and learned absolutely nothing of use for the real world. speaking of real world. i thought i might submit an aplication for it. i think it might be fun. in a sick lets pretend these are our real lives sort of way. i can be that annoying drunk american girl that gets kicked out. or perhaps the 'sexually frustrated chick that sleeps with every housemate. girls included.' or maybe i can combine these and have some sort of sordid past and keep you guessing with each episode as to what happened to me when i was a child. only to have you dissappointed in the last episode when you find out that it was just my father abandoning me and my mom. that in effect brought up abandonment issues. which cause me to over drink and over sex myself. oh wait. i suppose they've already done that in the last season. with that hawaiin girl. oh well. it was a nice idea when it started. sigh. have a super day and take care and always wear you seat belt. >:cB) iris standhere www.angelfire.com/journal/standhere/index.html thunder wishes it could be the snow_tori_amos_ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com Mon Jan 31 11:45:28 2000 From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 03:45:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: My hands aren't soft and smooth anymore? Message-ID: <20000131114528.3340.qmail@web1401.mail.yahoo.com> damn right they ain't. friction causes hard skin. "I haven't written for a while, because I've had better things to do. But today, I have some free time slots, and I've graced you all with my presence." Okay, if you ever meet someone who said that to you, punch them and run away quickly. I don't know if anyone had mentioned this, but hefner are supporting the violent femmes at glasgow garage, on the 7th of april. Isn't that when atp is? support? support my arse! (actually, two lovely girls are doing that as I write, one for each cheek.) I would have thought that isobel, (or was it sarah) might have gone to this gig, as I remember reading once that she had once gone to london just to see the violent femmes. I take good care of my nails. However, my mum says that they aren't as nice as they used to be. Who fucking cares? does anyone know where I can find chords/ tabs, for the delgados? It is truly pissing me off. I get the feeling that some people on the list do things just to be seen to be twee, or a little odd. Well, YOU'RE ALL FRIGGING FREAKS!!! ASSMUNCH!!! I can swear in punjab. "derri ma ganji lulli". Can from aberdeen/dundee contact me? I'm going there, and need a bed for the night, and I was hoping that they could recomend a comfy little guest house. Chris. (I dropped the baby. I'm too old for it, now, I feel) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stray4f at xxx.net Mon Jan 31 09:30:55 2000 From: stray4f at xxx.net (===) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 04:30:55 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Dirty Dream #2 video screening Message-ID: <200001311226.HAA381166@pimout8-int.prodigy.net> Hello everyone. I will be projecting the video for "Dirty Dream #2" at the Georgia Museum of Art this Tuesday, Feb 1st in Athens, Georgia. As old list members may recall, the video was shot using Sinister list members and Belle & Sebastian fans in late 98. This is probably one of the first public screenings of it in the US, as it mostly aired in the UK and Continental Europe. The Museum is holding a benefit screening of films by James Herbert and myself, and I plan to show the video among some of my other films. It is part of Athens 10th Annual Mental Health Benefit, which raises funds for the North East Georgia Mental Health Foundation, and I believe the entrance donation is $5. If you live in the area, or were in the video and would like to see it at the museum, please feel free descend upon Athens. Thank you for your time..... Lance Bangs +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Mon Jan 31 12:31:19 2000 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:31:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: If you go down Pigeon Street... Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000131123119.007454bc@ampsys.co.uk> ...these are some of the people you will meet... It's OK it's not another Children's TV spectacular though they did have excellent triangular trousers which I unfortunately couldn't find last time I was in Marks and Sparks. I was just the other day ,though, subjugated to the strangest form of literary criticism. I was on my way home from a bit of a pop spectacular at Covent Garden's very own Poetry Café on a London Underground tubular vehicle when the train unfortunately terminated at Northfields. Whilst waiting for the next Heathrow train I continued to read my book, Arthur Koestler's "Arrival and Departure", on the platform when a pigeon decided it would crap on said book and also splendidly dribble it's greeny excretion down my jacket. Which was a bit much really. So I shook my fist angrily at said pigeon and told him a bit harshly to plop off somewhere else in no uncertain terms. To which he responded that he was doing me a favour and that as a fictional representation of the failure of idealism in post-revolutionary power said book served a purpose only historically and aesthetically and meant little in this new millenium. He emphasised the need to look forward and not distort the future by focussing too much on the past. Which I was momentarily confused by, but I think I responded quite cleverly by saying, "As Arthur Koestler once said himself "If the creator had a purpose in equipping us with a neck, he surely meant us to stick it out." But I'm not sure he thought the same about pigeon's arses." Alright so that's not true. Instead I responded with "oh yeah Professor Pigeon! I'm going to send you my dry cleaning bill." But he got the message. Anyway the evening had a happy ending as we kind of got on after that and we're going to form a book club for intellectual vermin and vegans in the London area. Which is nice. I'd also like to take this chance to apologise publically to the residents of Greenwich as some new neighbours are arriving that are likely to lower your property value and spend most of their time loitering around local areas of public congregation drinking alcohol and mouthing obsceneties. Least that's what I like to do most weekends. Te ra, Martin ear confection recordings (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) p.s Speaking of ear confection... your not? Well I am, recently I keep reading about how bands are having the first ever mp3 single, single on the web and stuff. If I was a pigeon I would plop unmercifully on their articles. Maybe. Actually if anyone's got any top tunes they want to put on there give me a shout. p.p.s. Oh and I think twanging an elastic band against a ruler would be more pleasing than watching that Elastica band the other night. They were, in my opinion, most pants. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Mon Jan 31 13:53:49 2000 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:53:49 GMT Subject: Sinister: Another band to fall in love with... Message-ID: <20000131135349.27900.qmail@hotmail.com> I don't often do this but I have to make an exception just once.. Go and buy tompaulin's 7" on action records (www.action-records.co.uk) It's called ballad of the bootboys b/w wedding song. It is really really special. Obviously influenced by B+S(and they are an 8 or 9 piece apparantly)and very fey and twee. The Melody Maker are going mad over them and NME's Kitty Empire was on the phone all last week trying to get an interview. If the rest of their stuff is like this then they will be amazing. Not as good as B+S but still amazing.They are playing Manchester roadhouse at the end of Feb I fear I sound as if I am raving but it is bloody good Paul ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Mon Jan 31 14:06:40 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 06:06:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: the facinating world of IdleB. Message-ID: <20000131140640.4406.qmail@web605.mail.yahoo.com> So here we are, back at Monday. Joy. Anyway, for all the nosey parkers out there (don't you love that term? I used to say it all the time when i was a wee gurl. to everyone. whether it was true or not.) theres a piccie of me now on my website. www.geocities.com/idleberry/krispiccy.html. Weekend was good. went to stay with my boyfriend. Only I couldn't find his hairdryer, and cos my hair goes well, bizarre and frizzy and wavy when it dries naturally and makes me look like dot cotton (I kid thee not) I decided to lean over his electric heater to dry it. And I didn't set fire to it. Decided hobbies are the new rocknroll, particularly if you're in a band. Unless its Belle and Sebastian. Anyway, went to a little art shop in Ipswich, and bought some bits a pieces, a charcoal pencil and some oil pastels and a block of paper. And now I'm going all creative. Ah...to be a creative genius. It would be nice. If only I knew how. decided to avoid my flatmates for the moment, and instead took to writing stories and venting all my anger about them in my stories. Less chance of being arrested. Still miss scotland heaps. Ah well. here I go... cherrypips IdleB ===== visit the idle site:http://www.geocities.com/idleberry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Mon Jan 31 14:21:00 2000 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 06:21:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: fragile, don't crush Message-ID: <20000131142100.7806.qmail@web119.yahoomail.com> i just Had to write to exclaim loudly: BLAKE IS BACK!! he doesn't even know it, but he was my first sinister crush. whoops, now everyone knows. well, since all the old crushes are erased anyway, i suppose it's alright. alexander, i believe, said something about crushes being influenced by chat. i don't know anything about That, but i would like to say that if you Can go to sinister chat, you most definitely Should. i can't promise that there'll be flushed milkmaids and hay-rolling Every day, but oh dear some interesting things Do go on. right right. today a boy i like sat Right behind me in class, which made me all nervous, which in turn made me play with my hair and fidget and bite my lipgloss off. and at the end of class he said "hi." and now i feel all junior-high-ish and giddy. like a damn schoolgirl, i tell ya. speaking of school girls... i was wearing a black jumper and pink blouse and mary janes on friday afternoon. and i didn't change before i went down to the bar. so i was sitting in the bar, putting away a pint of guinness, looking like i'd just gotten home from 7th grade (although Our school uniforms were icky plaid), and i got the Dirtiest look from some blonde sorority girl. sheesh. can't a girl dress up anymore?? b&s content: on saturday night miss KIMberly and i met some cute kids at a show in pittsburgh who had b&s buttons on their bags. and one was named marie! eeek. i never meet anyone with my name. let's see: crushes, vague allusion to smut, b&s content, school uniforms, beer, boys, and lip gloss. right-o. i think i've done well. xoxo, ree ===== ************************************************************** "to me she was just marie." -mersault "hearts don't break/ the division is innate" -secret stars eliam at alleg.edu | littlearsonist at yahoo.com | aol IM:LazyJane22 ************************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Mon Jan 31 14:46:14 2000 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:46:14 BST Subject: Sinister: for jobs that are big... Message-ID: <96163336F1E@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> ...a mechanical digger is bigger and better and quicker (if anyone knows all the words to that can you send me them off list because i can't find them anywhere) i have a query, can someone tell me what 'mary janes' are, as in >i was wearing a black and pink blouse and mary janes on friday >afternoon. marie? also, is there anyone on this list who has some sort of shared house arrangement and doesn't hate their flatmates. here i am feeling guilty because i've barely spoken to mine since i returned after christmas, and then all of you lot are planning brutal murders. i would worry, but most of you are a long way away. my excitng news of the moment is that i've found someone to pay for me to go to atp (fiona jumps up and down and flails arms like demented windmill / pete townshend) and its nearly my birthday - 10th february, gifts, money , beer all gratefully received. and i think i only failed two exams and its la pastie de la bourgeoisie on friday and my tubby friend has wangled himself a dj slot, so that people can whinge when he plays the slits. stuff is really quite good, but i must leave you now to learn about differential equations. stay beautiful, jaffa cakes etc fiona, i was born to make you happy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Mon Jan 31 14:56:41 2000 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:56:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Double Woof and Sausages Message-ID: <20000131145641.6600.qmail@web1703.mail.yahoo.com> Hello peeps, I had a very nice weekend! I saw the FOXGLOVES play SONGS at the Po Caff and drank wodka. Later on Chrys Lynyrd played some acoustic melodies, and I was drinking ABSINTH. Then we sat around a table and I drank some beer, and then a pint of wine. I'm not sure which part of that horrific bouze combination made me decide that paddling in Trafalgar Sq fountain was GRATE (I didn't even take my socks off - it didn't occur to me), but my head was pretty sore the next day. If you don't know what scale Trafalgar Sq fountain is on, imagine its like um... doing something very silly in a big landmark...like Time Sq...or Bangrak, Thailand. Hello Ooon by the way, we all think you're GRATE. And I have something to send to you but would you please send me your address again as I don't have it. Being a crip, I have lost my address book. Not even under the influence of alky-hol. Anyway. A Big Gay Lesbian sent me this and I think you should all join in. It'd be fun, and you could do something GOOD for a change, instead of all this wanton destruction of brain cells. <> The address is > >> > Keep the Clause > >> > Freepost SC0 5219 > >> > Perth > >> > PH2 8BR Send them beer mats, flyers, junk mail and remember it costs them 20p each time. Bwaahaahaha. Oooh look people, internet word of mouse activism! You know, I'm sure there was plenty of other things that I meant to say. But I can't think of any. Go on, send all your old crap to the Record. Unless you don't like gay-ists, in which case you are probably a wanker (and can't get a shag from ANY sex) so nur. Sarah xo ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 50158120 at xxx.hk Mon Jan 31 15:03:02 2000 From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 23:03:02 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Hi Not Toby Chan's Best Mate Message-ID: <949330982.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk> Hi Linus, Hey classy mate... ve u seen Salo? an italian film. Why u wanna try orgy? I dun say that i dun enjoy sex. But i am just making an example bout Weed >never went to any messy party / orgy ( wanna try ) , never have 3 some , >never have had a one - night stand . but i enjoy sex , either one on one , >or DIY . >I write stories , poems , try to write songs , and lyrics ;I draw , sing and >kiss . I try to afford using Chinese , for example , i only know how to >flirt in English , maybe some French . >glad to hear any reply . >Ta >Linus +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 50158120 at xxx.hk Mon Jan 31 15:10:58 2000 From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 23:10:58 +0800 Subject: Sinister: all the horny boys Message-ID: <949331458.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk> Hiya ipecac spice. I am not a horney boy. I am just talkin' bout the little dissapointed of the 1st time i take weed, employing the example of first time i huv sex. >"horney" or "horny". anyone know? those were interesting messages from you >boys in hong kong and from robert. lots of sex talk. > >has anyone seen those pants that are in the stores lately with ribbons and >beads or rhinestones around the leg bottoms? i was thinking of decorating >some old pants b/c it would be way cheaper and i'm sure i'd get bored of >them too quickly to be worth buying new ones. so i was wondering if anyone >knows if glue gunning rhinestones to pants is a bad idea? would that work? >otherwise, how do you attach them? > >why do we (girls mostly i suppose) usually take so much better care of our >fingernails? toenails just get cut, possibly polish in the summer. but >fingernails get so much more attention. i suppose it's true of feet and >hands overall. we stand on our poor feet all day and yet give all our >attention to our fingers. ok, i know, i've been working too long. > >bye, > >di > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 50158120 at xxx.hk Mon Jan 31 15:24:51 2000 From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 23:24:51 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Hong Kong Message-ID: <949332291.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk> Hi Richard and other Girls and Boys RICHARD: u can meet me from now to 9th Feb at the exhibition hall at HK City Hall. coz i am helping Videotage for the festival. I work from 11-6 and the earlier u come the better... i am young, tall with DM or Adi Samba...and without glasses. >years in last September. A few weeks ago I was in a shop in our village, the >radio was tuned to one of the Chinese language channels. Then suddenly I >heard a familiar musical sound. They were playing Mary Jo. is it the programme by Kwan King Chung? > >Well today I noticed we have two new Hong Kong subscribers who have joined >the list recently. So I thought it timely to mention to any HK subscribers >that theres actually 3 other Sinistereens in HK. We get together on a semi >regular basis and should you wish to drop by let me know at >rclander at netfront.net . However I think I should add that theres just >chatting about music, having a laugh and having a drink. All are welcome. Yeah!!!! Let's go to Chemical Suzy!!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_gibber at xxx.com Mon Jan 31 15:47:43 2000 From: the_gibber at xxx.com (Ian McKinney) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:47:43 GMT Subject: Sinister: doubleplusungood refs unpersons upsub antefiling Message-ID: <20000131154743.69884.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello friends and well-wishers, What a week I've had: MONDAY A good day - I saw the fabulous Zen Guerilla and the amazing Man...Or Astroman?. I met the singer from Z.G. afterwards and told him he was cooler than Jon Spencer. He seemed pleased. M.O.A? were pure showmanship... they had a fake supercomputer.... 'EEVIAC: the only and hence the best supercomputer in rock'n'roll!' A class act indeed. TUESDAY A bad day - rear ended at high speed and thrust violently into the back of a truck. My poor little red van was completely squished. Still, I got to ride in an ambulance. WEDNESDAY A bad day. Spent the whole day waiting around for x-rays, etc. FRIDAY Saw the incomparably cool Olympic Lifts and the intruiging Trans-Am. Two splendid shows in a week! I was happy as a pig in shite. SUNDAY I baked my own tomato bread and made a big pot of Caponata. It was delicious. I am now contemplating a career as a celebrity chef. Till the next time, Ian. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Mon Jan 31 19:22:26 2000 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:22:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: for jobs that are big... Message-ID: <80256877.006B39EC.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Fiona fiona fiona >  she should try making anything rhyme with fiona How about 'There's this girl Fiona / She's mine but I don't own her'? That wasn't completely my own work. When are Hopkirk & Lee going to release another record? > also, is there anyone on this list who has some sort of shared > house arrangement and doesn't hate their flatmates. In my experience there is always one flatmate who doesn't fit in with the others. They become a the whipping boy/girl. It's healthy, except when you're the outcast, which happened to me once. This rule applies no matter how small the household is. If you live on your own, you will end up blaming yourself for things you didn't do. You will also talk about yourself behind your back and develop a crick in your neck. My solution to the slip case issue: Enter a land of make believe. There appears to have been an upsurge in people using 'twee' as a synonym of GRATE. It's NOT. Twee backwards is nearly 'eewch', which is the sound you should make when someone is being twee. Remember - Belle & Sebastian R hard, not 'cloyingly sweet' or 'affectedly precious'. This isn't true or anything, but it's much more cute if you think that way. I seem to be saying I'm cute. Stuart Murdoch wrote to me once and he had the following to say on the subject: >>It's a funny thing twee. I wish I could be twee just so I could be seventeen again and act like a baby. But it's in the eye of the beholder. Perhaps the workman beholds me being at my most mature and thinks "Twee fucker." I'm envious though. I'd like to be able to take my knitting to a club again. And dribble into my cider.>> But you shouldn't listen to what he says. Twee fucker. I do have cuddly toys in my bed, but only so that I can make girls can go 'aah!' but not want to sleep with me, and get lectures from exasperated friends (mainly female) about how I am ruining my scoring potential. Tweeness as a bloody-minded expression of a self-destructive urge. More mature readers will remember the song the song snake wrote for Belle & Sebastian, 'If only I had lips I would kiss you'. Well the other day I was flicking around on cdnow and I came across an old song with a very similar title. So the song snake is not magic at all. My potted film reviews: American Beauty - not so good. Wonderland - terrific. Nick xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jenny at xxx.uk Mon Jan 31 20:18:58 2000 From: jenny at xxx.uk (Jenny Hodgson) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 20:18:58 -0000 Subject: Sinister: crash rahhhh huzzah bang....grrrr....etc.etc....etc Message-ID: <001001bf6c28$6cbed2c0$02000003@f1s0w9> hmmmmmm.. any tips on shrinking a jeepster tee shirt down to avoid it looking too much like a stuffed sack? dryer you say? what cycle?only mine has, well rather a lot of scientific-looking buttons, and i'm frightened the 'If You're Feeling Sinister' imprinted in on the Tee with melt and spell something awfully rude (and amusing,-which is why i can;t think of an example right now) oh, and i had not an inkling that b&s fans were in the dirty dream no. 2 video.... props (as i assume is the appropriate sinsiter term,) to 'the-guy-with-milk-down-his-front' , and, if the 'girl-who-did-the-swaying-thing' is still about, dear, i know about four people that wish to marry you. just so as you know so, i had an ill-advised wee jaunt to a *ahem* 'goth club on saturday...(i was dragged, it wasn't by my own free will, honest) and what should i be confronted after being willed through the big black door, scraping my toes on the tarmac and squealing 'nooo!' hmm? 'the boy with the arab strap' thats what!so. i knocked about seven disgruntled goth types off their stack heels and got cider and black poured all down my back, and went to shimmy my quite inconsiderable thang on the dancefloor (wait, does 'thang' constitute a photo for the body parts page....?!?!?)and who should i see but a boy doing a high kickin' legs flickin' little dance to it. it was like the lo- fi can can..needless to say i was smitten.....darn girlfriends eh? always get in the way of my fun... i had to crawl under the writhing eyelinered masses in order to get out of the 'pit' when some random 'bang crash bang crash' thing came on, which i'm not aware has a name... oooh, and we were watching some C4 documentary in art class on the Turner Prize (much cliched hilarity involving art teach attempting to programme video recorder, and then resorting to the old chesnut of 'i arrange bones and feathers and bits of fluff, surely i shouldn;t have to cope with this?' ) anyway, back too the not-at-all relevant story... actually no, that was the least-boring part. i was simply going to relay my admiration and minor crush on the presenter. mathew collings, he talks in poetry, you know!..*swoon* .actually props (and again) to my art teach too, as she makes us draw vaguely pornographic charcoal smudgy things.and an awful lot of leaves. and lets us spend the day singing two part harmonies (hm, if you can call them that, which, as my classmates assure me, you can't.) to,well, whatever song was last on the radio that morning.we currently have ambitions on a black beret and kaftan... **and i feel the sinister great art debate whirring up in the distance,like some kind of inexerable intellectual wagon wheel so i should probably go, before i reveal myself to having no idea what i'm talking about....and bluffing really incompatently..*** sensamachiaco.. ....jenny +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grey7 at xxx.net Mon Jan 31 20:17:48 2000 From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:17:48 -0500 Subject: Sinister: All feathered up and living on the dubbed side... Message-ID: <003501bf6c28$3f753200$63381fce@default> Hello again Sinister Siblings, I trust we are all doing well? As has already been mentioned you all must come play with us in the Sinister chat. That's right kiddies, real time conversations with fellow Sinister People and sometimes even Dear Honey drops by. I've just read that Vh-1 is showing their little special movie "Two of Us" tomorrow night, I'm not sure whether I want to watch it or not. It's got Adain Quinn in it and it's a bit of a what if piece, what if John and Paul got back together prior to John's getting shot. So far the reviews of it are good, but it seems a bit tacky. Perhaps that's just me though... Ah, I've recieved my B&S shirt. I must say you were all right about Jeepster's size problem. I ordered a large and while I'm not a big fellow I'm not twee either and the thing just fits me across the shoulders and chest. But it's a rather nice shirt though I fear washing it since it's one hundred percent cotton and I worry I won't be able to get into it if it shrinks. I got buttons as well which have already been added to my backpack and I now await the hordes of compliments that will ensue. In case anyone is wondering, those badges are a bit smallish, about the size of a quarter, though still nice. I'd just like to say, for the record, that when I was eight years old the ending of the Narnia chronicles pissed me off beyond belief. I mean really now, "yes, children you're all dead...isn't that wonderfull?", no, no it's not Jesu...I mean Aslan, so why don't you just piss off! Talk about scarring a child for life. Sorry about that little digression. Sorry, too much caffine today. Anyways, I must say I'm excited by having just read on the jeepster site that Mick Cooke is doing a tab/music/lyric book for B&S. Yes! Though the chord layouts on the Sinister site are nice I can't wait to have full music notation, I've already dusted off my keyboard and await with glee. I was giving a fellow employee a ride home this weekend and was playing Looper, to my suprise (he's a techno-metal head) he quite liked Impossible Things and Burning Flies, though he found the rest a bit boring. I just finished reading The Dead Trilogy by Richard Calder, and either it's brilliant or it's complete rubbish. I haven't decided yet. Alright then, time to be going. Be Sinister dear ones.... Jim (waiting to happen....) "A young boy sticks a feather in his mouth...", Jeff Noon- Vurt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+