From GetUpGirly at xxx.com Sat Jul 1 06:22:03 2000 From: GetUpGirly at xxx.com (GetUpGirly at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 01:22:03 EDT Subject: Sinister: As she steped off the plane and realized that no one would be there to greet her Message-ID: <4c.79bc700.268ed9fb@aol.com> Hello I'm going to take these first few lines to complain (lord knows I don't do that nearly enough) about the fact that American MTV seems to be the only one that doesn't show any B+S videos. I feel very deprived. I don't eve think our M2, which claims to play only videos all the time, if you could call them that, even shows them. Okay, that was it, I won't be whine any more. Goodness, this is my second post in two weeks! If you don't watch out you all might know who I am after awhile....no, I'll go back into my whole again soon. I just wanted to abuse the list once more before I go and ask if there are any listies in the Seattle area. You may have seen my last post, asking about any in the San Fran area, well, I'm at it again. Its just TOO convenient! So, if there is anyone that would like to entertain two young and vibrant girls (what, is this turning into a personal?) during the week of July 8th through the 15th, I'd like to hear from you. Now I feel obligated to put something worthwhile in here. But I won't, because I heard something about a 15 minute time limit, and I've already wasted 14 minutes in list abuse alone...I"m saving the other minute for spell check...but perhaps next time? Thankyou all Moira +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lixibell at xxx.com Sat Jul 1 15:12:09 2000 From: lixibell at xxx.com (alix campbell) Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 14:12:09 GMT Subject: Sinister: is it wrong to want to live on your own Message-ID: <20000701141209.17194.qmail@hotmail.com> hullo. I�ve had the strangest day. I clocked in at work at 6.56, 4 minutes early, then spent the rest of the day having petty arguments with a colleague and being far too busy. Nick Dastoor materialised briefly, adding to my confusion. Come 2pm I was ready to go live in a camper van in South Shields. Walking home, there was nothing except a few stray feather boa feathers to suggest what awaited me. I climbed the stairs, and entered my room. A transsexual whirlwind has struck whilst I was working. Fake eyelashes, lipglossy emphemera and stockings littered the floor. Slowly, I began to recall that my flatmate had asked me if I minded her friends changing in my room. �No, that�s fine� I had replied, not realising that it was their sex they were changing. I know that it was the work of drag queens, because they�d left their bus pass by the window. The photo was of a rather dull looking young man. Drag queens are fundamentally different from gay boys; gay boys tidy up before they leave, so i had to tidy a little. Anyhow, by this point I was rather hungry, so I descended into the kitchen. Once more opening the door was a surprise. Upon our dishwasher that cunningly doubles as a table and storage, was some kind of buffet. Dips, quiche, party eggs and tomato flowers greeted me. I was made up, for sure. Many empty wine bottles were on the sideboard. That�s my day so far. Bloody bizarre. Everyone else has gone to Mardi Gras, and I�d love to be there. i don't know if i can bear to hear all that lovely pop music and not be able to go see it. i can't close the windows in this bloody weather though. on an actually serious note though, there was a feature on the telly last night on how Copeland made the Soho bomb, and i personally think that, on the eve of Pride and Mardi Gras, this is perhaps bad timing. Anyway. I�m looking forward to the queens coming back here later. I�ve not met a drag queen yet. I�m a bit jealous of their make-up collections, truth told. I�m sure there should be a better reason to write. This is the second time in as many days that I�ve done this. Wow, there�s a BUFFET in my kitchen and DRAG QUEENS in my bedroom. Could I really ask for more? Love lixi ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather-boa at xxx.com Sat Jul 1 18:13:23 2000 From: feather-boa at xxx.com (feather boa) Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 10:13:23 -0700 Subject: Sinister: the weirdness of my life. Message-ID: i'm having a very strange time at the moment. i finished school *forever* on thursday (i did a step(s) exam on thursday and the first question was "contrast and compare these 2 poems about wales" *s*. then i had my school leavers ball, where everyone dressed up, even me, and i took my gbf. and this girl that i fancied for years was there, and she got on *really* well with my gbf, so we spent a lot of time with her. then my latin teacher, who was there, came up to us, and i introduced her to him, and he said "what bands do you like?" and i was expecting her to say "fatboy slim, the doors" the kind of stuff she's spent 2 years telling us she loves. but she comes out with "oh, this scottish band, belle and sebastian, i think they're brilliant". how scarey is that? and her boyfriend bought her tigermilk for her birthday because he thought it was the newest one, and she already had tbwtas and iyfs (although she didn't know the names) and she said that she listened to them when she was doing her marking. how strange. i was very drunk, and i dug out my mirror from my handbag, because it's got a sticker from mm from ages ago that says "belle and sebastian rock my world". does anyone fancy protecting me from enraged placebo fans, i think i might have seriously offended them. they're coming to get me... pip pip FB X oscar wilde *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boy_afraid at xxx.com Sat Jul 1 17:49:04 2000 From: boy_afraid at xxx.com (Charles Byron) Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 17:49:04 ART Subject: Sinister: just for Bels lovers Message-ID: <20000701204904.89036.qmail@hotmail.com> hi lovely sinisters, just wanted to let you know that i've uploaded a couple of pics of Isobel and "the boy in her gang" taken during the last-year gig at The Improve Theatre in London. just go to http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/thegentlewaves to see them. stay handsome, charles buenos aires - argentina "useless and shiftless and jobless but we're all yours" M O R R I S S E Y � 9 5 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Sat Jul 1 22:36:39 2000 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 17:36:39 -0400 Subject: Sinister: you wouldn't belive in my new belt References: <3958BF1E.DE9EBA71@wdr.com> Message-ID: <000b01bfe3a4$71f84160$3d02a7d1@yesic.com> hey list! woooo! yeah! ready?!? GEOGRAPHY Pete Ramsdale (did i get that right?) wrote this > In terms of sheer geography, it rests in > the back right-hand corner of my living room, somewhere between TBWTAS > and "Mellow Gold", below my cd single collection, but above the "c" to > "e" section of the rest of my albums. I think that gives us a fair > idea of everything, really. which i thought was great. maybe if we all talk about where we put our belle and sebastian records when they aren't being played then the next magazine to bring sinsiter into its article on our band can mention that the fans gather in cafes to ask eachother 'where do you put your belle and sebastian?" and we can have all them journalist fuckers fooled! WILL I HAVE MY REVENGE? should i buy the revenge album? peter hook is on it. that augers well for it. also in revenge: so friends and i were having a few drinks at my place and listening to some new records and then we were going to go to a party. so as we were leaving this fabulous friend i've known for 6 years and would trust as far as the sky asks if he could leave his bag at my house, since the party is fairly near by and its not nice to haul bags around everywhere is it? so i said yes, why not....simple enough. so then. we go to this party, and its slow and kind of disappointing. but they're playing the make up. which is thrilling. so once the make up is no longer enough a group of us decide to check out this new party night thing called 'stars of track and field' which was at the rancho relaxo. but the friend who left the bag at my house announced his intentions to go home and said that he couldn't deal with life without his bag. so i gave him the keys to my house and told him that he could meet me at track and field (which would be on his way home) and give me the keys. so it takes all of 11.4 minutes to walk from the party to my house and then maybe 20 minutes maximum to get to rancho relaxo where i woudl be. so there i was at the rancho, where things were lame despite the auspicious name. and no sign of my keys. none. so i waited for an hour, lame-ness happened. and i got mad. so then i called this friend's cel phone and his parent's house and incase he was still at my house i called there too....and nothing. so i walked back to my house with some friends who were nice enough to accompany me, and found it locked and such as i had left it. then one of these nice friends offered to let me sleep at his place so i accepted and walked off that way. then. when we got to his house i called the key and bag friend and he answered his phone...it was hours later, i had intended to be in bed a few hours ago, and i was tired and cranky and mad...and he answers, and hes at a bar, which is near to the rancho....in fact the rancho is on the way to this bar...and he's been there the whole night since leaving my company. so he could have, on his way there dropped off the keys with me...but he didn't. i mean, i just don't know what to think when someone you've known for years behaves in such an erratic and foolish way, which is so incredibly out of character for him too.... grrr. but on my way home to meet this 'friend' i found this empty bottle of anti-freeze that some poor unfortunates had been drinking, and since it looked sort of like a small gas can and was opaque, i came to meet him waving it around and yelling 'i'm going to set you on fire!' but soon i just gave up because i was looking silly and all i wanted was my keys and to go to bed. HEY! Y'KNOW WHAT'S FUNNY? everyone keeps talking about the new album as FYHC which looks soo much like FYC to me which doesn't spell 'fold your child' to me but instead spells 'fine young cannibals' who i think are a fabulous band and should have a rennaissance coming up soon. but then its kind of funny, because everyone is really talking about belle and sebastian, but i keep imagining them talking about FYC instead. tee hee. HOT IRON! i'm low on iron. and apperantly soy makes men go dotty. since i've been raised on soy milk all my life i'm no doubt half way to being a complete wash out. blech. and then, burried in a sentence about surrealism from Arantxa Sanz: >About Fraulein Dagmar Vroom's mum assesment method: can one claim >automatic writing ?Surrealism is a bit demode,but don't know if enough to >make a convincing comeback.And I found ironing a much more necessary touch >on a man too nowadays,very rare occasion is to greet a 20something male >with no creases and no sarcasm to cover that sign of laziness instead. yes, surrealism is definitely had its day. as with people keeping their genitals inside their clothes i'm into people keeping their subconscious inside their heads. why go letting it leak out into ghastly paintings that people who are very impressed by pink floyd can hang prints of on their walls? and also ironing. i spend a good 10-14 minutes ironing pants and such before i go out to nice things (grocery shopping is not worth ironing for, which is where my mum and i differ) just to make sure that all the lines are nice and 'sharp'. really, i mean, why are so many people so adverse to ironing? its not so bad is it. and then your pants become fantastic and everyone goes oooh ahhh. yeah! ironing and irony are unrelated by the way. MY NEW BELT i have this new belt and like it alot. its electric blue and really thin, and it sort of looks like a ribon and has this weird very faint red stiching running along it. and these quick release clips for easy 'belt-on' 'belt-off' action! yes! now i can be in and out of my pants faster than a jack rabbit! not that i'm ever out of my pants for very long. oh, i just realized that trousers and pants are different things in the UK. well. too bad for you. even slacks are pants to us here in north america. so there. steve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Sat Jul 1 22:44:44 2000 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 09:44:44 +1200 Subject: Sinister: being bitten by a dog, and Nick Drake (again) Message-ID: <001b01bfe3a9$74e66e60$c56137d2@computer> ***MY LEG*** On Friday my girlfriend's rotweiller ripped a chuck of flesh out of the back of my leg. By jingo it hurt. It hurt ike the buggery, and I will be limping for a while. My fault really ... he came up to see me in the dark as I was getting out of my car, and I tyripped over him, kinda landed on him with my arms out and I think he thought I was attacking him. So ... ow. Walking is not a fun thing right now. Oh no sir ... not at all. ***NICK DRAKE REMASTERS*** A few people mailed me off list last week asking me exactally how different were the "new" Nick Drake remasters (released last week) comapred to the Island/Hannibal ones. So, to save mailing back everyone who mailed me, and because some other listees may care, here goes. They sound really good. Better, but not so much better that you really need to buy them if you already own them ......... There. Don't throw your old ones into the fire, but if you don't have any Nick Drake albums I would advise you to get the new ones, bcause the packaging is really nice, they have lots of photos, lyrics etc., and sound great. I watched 'Hideous Kinky' last night. Pretty mediocre movie, but I got super excited when they played Nick Drake's "Road" and startted yelling "It's Nick Drake" over and over again. Well, that's it for me. I'll hobble over and get my coat. (ow ....ouch ...) Lawrence Mikkelsen http://www.akn.quik.co.nz/mikelsen/aboutme +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From FakingUpARampage at xxx.com Sat Jul 1 23:55:00 2000 From: FakingUpARampage at xxx.com (FakingUpARampage at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 18:55:00 EDT Subject: Sinister: is this the weekend? Message-ID: <5b.7fa4ba0.268fd0c4@aol.com> dears and darlings.. i hope everyone is well. i am. but i cant find legal man. still. i just realized that it really is the weekend. i kinda thought it was wednesday or something when i wrote the subject. im finding that funny, so im leaving it. i was recently given a copy of bowlie. i believe its bowlie. its a radio broadcast tho, so it kinda confuses me. and it says 'booley fest at edinburg'. anyway, whats the lovely little song that keeps repeating the word love? i'm horrible and cant remember anymore lyrics yet. is that Rhoda? i had a dream the other day, and i've had it before. i might have mentioned it then. if i did i doubt you remember anyway. but its this dream, where i go to see belle and sebby in a nursing home. however, i have to put on a white wig and walk with a cane because i am under 60, and cant legally get into the show. so i get a moo moo and a wig and a cane.. but the guards realize i'm only 17 and chase me around the establishment while all the elder folk sit in wheel chairs and listen to Stuart sing 'dog on wheels' while muttering "what a nice looking fellow." i had a convert during the year. it was french teacher. shes like, 60. and she now likes b&s. and its all my fault. her kids laughed at her. they like travis more. she grew up in glasgow, and upon finding this out i freaked out and said 'thats where belle and sebastian are from!!'. and i got extra credit for being able to make a list of scottish pop bands for her. but she apparently really liked them. i had lent her IYFS for quite some time. i spent a good portion of the year without my belle and sebby cds. or, without some of them. it was a sad sad time. i d/led some mp3 that is supposedly by b&s called 'the hour'. it sounds like maybe StuD singing, but i cant tell cos the quality is kinda odd. is it indeed them? is there a 15 minute rule now? that message might have gotten deleted on me. i'm only about 400 messages behind. i've been working on this for far longer then 15 minutes, so i believe that i'll send it alone, for fear of breaking a rule which i dont know. xoxo Jes +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mouche75 at xxx.com Sun Jul 2 00:09:20 2000 From: Mouche75 at xxx.com (Mouche75 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:09:20 EDT Subject: Sinister: swearing (vintage) Message-ID: hey sinister people, are you all well? I'm not so bad, it's Saturday night, way past 11, but it's still sorta light here. Kids is on TV, but I really couldn't bear to watch it again. I'm doing my best to be happy. I was flicking through the Sinister site and came across the bit on swearing. I was intrigued. Bear with me. I was doing a job for my pal Andy yesterday, and I was sort of hungover when I got up, so I gave him a bell to let him know I'd be a wee bit late. You know how people moan about mobile phones and stuff? I've never really had an opinion till yesterday. Andy answered the phone sounding distressingly flustered, and said "Mouche? Can I call you back? I'm doing a jobby." If this is where mobile phones are leading us, I'll stick with the landline. Sheesh. Anyway, my point was... jobby... vintage swear word, an old classic. There's slight B&S content here, because the start of "If You're Feeling Sinister" reminds me of this. I'm amazed that there's not loads of swearing there. The only phrase I can really make out is "C'moan! Free kick!" but kids have terrific swear words. I went to my niece and nephew's sports' day a few weeks ago and I heard the phrase "johnny bag" for the first time since about 1984. It brought a tear to my eye. Incidentally, if anyone wants results of individual races, please email me direct. I have a little proposition... would anyone like to help me put on some sort of club night in the west coast of Scotland? I really need some help with venues and stuff... I mean, does anyone know if any of the universities in Glasgow have rooms with decks and stuff that you can hire? I really miss dancing. I really, really miss it. Really bad, drunken, shambling dancing to The Field Mice and The Fall and Belle and Sebastian and Tindersticks and stuff like that. We can collaborate in underground bunkers and come up with blueprints and plans. Anyway, let us know what you think. I was listening to Hand In Glove by The Smiths today, and I realised with complete shock that the line Morrissey mumbles after "I really don't know and I really don't care" is "Kiss my shades". You know, the run-out groove message on the single? I've listened to that song at least two thousand times and I'd never heard that before. I can't overemphasise my amazement. Is this common knowledge? Am I as slow as syrup? Oh, and I've got one little B&S question... when I saw B&S in Nottingham in 1998, the DJ played a record before the band came on that sounded almost exactly like Dog On Wheels- does anyone know who it was? She Comes In Colors by Love has a dead similar riff to Seeing Other People, I know, but this was the whole song... an anally retentive, mouche +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From low_fi25 at xxx.com Sun Jul 2 01:40:43 2000 From: low_fi25 at xxx.com (Jacob Laurent) Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 00:40:43 GMT Subject: Sinister: isn't it strange the way the air can......... Message-ID: <20000702004043.10144.qmail@hotmail.com> >I get to see them >in a week with Pedro the Lion and in like 3 weeks with Granddaddy. grandaddy opened for yo la tengo last night at the warfield in san francisco, and it was out*standing*! definitely the best show i've seen this year...at least until joan jett in seattle this september. jacob "my bittersweet memories reminded me how we used to feel, all damn summer with a head full of pills" -prima donnas ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kpc98c at xxx.UK Sun Jul 2 02:37:33 2000 From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 02:37:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Don't leave the light on baby... Message-ID: <200007020135.CAA12872@missprint.org> Hi all, Just an e-mail to say that I'm moving tomorrow to London for 2 months and will have no net access, so sadly it is goodbye for now with Sinister :-( With any luck I will be going to the London Sinister Picnic, looking forward to seeing some of you there! If you would like to write me or blow me kisses, then please send them to kenjuggler at hotmail.com which is much easier for me to check in like an internet cafe type thing. So, this is farewell! :-( I'll see you sometime maybe.. /me waves Chocolate fingers and redbulls Ken ====================================================================== "This is no declaration I just thought I'll let you know goodbye" said the hero in the story "it is mightier than swords I could kill you sure but I could only make you cry with these words" - Belle and Sebastian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nereusabe at xxx.com Sun Jul 2 06:06:42 2000 From: nereusabe at xxx.com (M Styer) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 01:06:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Bring me the head of Macy Gray! Message-ID: <380432506.962514402662.JavaMail.root@web586-ec.mail.com> Hello- This is my second post and I'm writing mainly because it is my birthday. It wasn't too hot today, maybe 101. I spent the whole day inside and wasted time. My father gave me a Q magazine, which I read page to page. I was very happy. Speaking now, like this, about a magazine reminds me of those old stories where children would recieve a cornhusk doll and an orange for their birthday (and then rejoice!). Since I live so far from Britain Q is a little over ten dollars. A rare treat. Yesterday I watched nothing but black and white movies I have been recording ,then storing. The best were Shindler's List and Medea directed by van trier. Quite good. After awhile all the movies blended with reality. I listened to Patti Smith's Horses and fell asleep. In the morning I opened my window (despite the heat) and listened to TBWTAS really loud. Quite a nice "moment". I just completed a series of pastel drawings of the "evil twin" off of FYHCYWLAP. Each in a different color and each more bizaare as the series continues. The last few came out so cruel looking I decided to go back to copying flowers up close. At least they don'tfollow you around the room (shudder). My dad gave me a promotional copy from his station of Macy Gray and Travis. I agree immensly about Macy being bad, from a previous post this week. But I haven't really listened to it closely. It sounds sad that I didn't have Travis yet, but I never got the urge to buy. I guess it is okay. Right now I'm playing Exile on Main St by the rolling stones and will probably give Sinister or Fishyclap a listening before retiring. Overall,...I pretty good birthday. Farewell Miles By the way- my father gave me a comical self-help book called You Are Worthless. I thought it was quite humorous until it started to depress me. It was one of those moments where even though you don't smoke you reach for an immaginary cigarette because it just seems like the right thing to do.Bye ----------------------------------------------- FREE! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jules at xxx.cx Sun Jul 2 07:31:50 2000 From: jules at xxx.cx (Julie Sauer) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 01:31:50 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: Just alive enough to die. Message-ID: A while ago I told Alix that I would respond to her post, but then she wrote all this rubbish about Glastonbury and I thought "Now what am I, an American, supposed to say about that?" Our festivals here consist of crowdsurfing and gang rapes to the obnoxious sounds of Limp Bizkit. Bah. Festivals suck, I always get hurt and dehydrated at them, and I leave cranky. Last year I missed seeing Beth Orton at a festival (the Feztival, actually) because my lip was bleeding profusely after I was kicked in the face by a crowd surfer. Fuck festies! Luckily Alix wrote again the next day and I can say things. Lixi said: >Nick Dastoor materialised briefly You mean he wasn't training? For a VERY IMPORTANT football match? She also said: >...not realising that it was their sex >they were changing. I have a friend who seems to be making the transformation to drag queen veeeeery slowly, he's been working on it for a few years now. We had lost touch, but one day I was in Hot Topic in Wilkes Barre and I was thinking about how lame I was for being in Hot Topic, but I went to check out my kickass Powerpuff Girls t shirt and who waited on me but said friend. He was wearing a little more makeup and sporting a few more piercings than the last time I saw him. He hopped over the counter and gave me a hug and the shopper goths gave us funny looks. That really had nothing to do with anything, did it? Later on, this guy Steve said: >i have this new belt and like it alot. its electric blue and really thin, >and it sort of looks like a ribon and has this weird very faint red stiching >running along it. and these quick release clips for easy 'belt-on' >'belt-off' action! yes! now i can be in and out of my pants faster than a >jack rabbit! not that i'm ever out of my pants for very long. I'd like to say that I have a magnetic Smurf belt, and it's wonderful. I have a Cabbage Patch Kid one too, but the Smurf belt is better and the elastic is holding up a lot better (I've had these belts since about 1984). So if you're at a show and you see a girl with a Smurfy belt, that's me! Probably. Also, a lot of boys have been talking about dropping their pants in my presence lately. I like it!! I've got nuffin' to say about Belle & Sebastian, except I think my favorite song of the moment is String Bean Jean as it's been in my head for the last few days. Also, I hung my Tigermilk poster in my room in Pennsylvania and put a lovely border of silver stars around it, so it's not going back to New York with me. Speaking of New York, I'm moving back tomorrow, wheeeeee. A very happy Independence Day to all of my fellow Americans and a big :o to you Brit lot. This is the time of the year when alcohol and gunpowder combine, legally. Usually. My dad's got a stash of super illegal fireworks in our garage, so if our house ever catches on fire be sure to stand in the street and watch as there will be a lovely pyrotechnic display as my belongings are consumed in flames. I watched Shallow Grave tonight, and as it was one of the few Ewan movies actually set in Scotland, WHY WAS HE NOT WEARING A KILT AT ALL??? More kilts! More kilts! C'mon, you have to admit he looked cute in that kilt at the end of a A Life Less Ordinary. It made the whole movie worth it. I love you all. Kisses to all who deserve it. xoxo Julie "It's only pop music, why are you asking me all these questions?!" -Robbie Williams +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From better_than_buffy at xxx.com Sun Jul 2 12:44:56 2000 From: better_than_buffy at xxx.com (sp*rkle horse) Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 11:44:56 GMT Subject: Sinister: as i walked down the alleyway it was a sunday... Message-ID: <20000702114456.60016.qmail@hotmail.com> raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar everybody :) i'm soooo happy which is a nice refreshing change and i thought i'd drop you all a line cos i haven't posted for ages. ooh i want to say THANK YOU LOTS MUCHAS :) to mutton and DAVEY!! who has increased my b&s collection seven fold and that i had a toppermost birthday cos of them. can't stop listening to FISHYCLAP and can people who don't like 'beyond the sunrise' explain WHY?? it's soooooooo good. and wow 'family tree' is oh-so anti-brady :) [katy you know what i'm on with this yeah?] i know i'm rambling [sorry honey] but i need to know...i'm baffled y'see....i got a crush vote and grrr...i do't really know anyone on here and arrrrr it's really doin' my head in now..:) so if you feel like divulging who you are i'd be a very grateful grapefruit. *mwahs* to you all and yay, there's too much love :) love from happy h xx ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mindmonkey1 at xxx.com Sun Jul 2 14:45:03 2000 From: mindmonkey1 at xxx.com (ineffable) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 06:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: everyday is like sunday Message-ID: <17434376.962545504340.JavaMail.imail@almond.excite.com> Hello everybody. i hope you have all had a nice morning in church and returned home safely. i am working unfortunately so feel a bit grumpy. have learnt from this mailing list thus far not to mention i) baxendale or ii) irony. because i am stupid I am now going to break both of these rules - another reason why i feel waspy is that i failed to get to the baxendale gig last night because of life getting in the way. i was also thinking about the irony debate (as i stepped over a small vomitting scottish girl who had appeared in our flat over night) and Magda's passionate, analytical defence of pre-reflective pleasure - perhaps this should be called meta-irony? i bought 'wild strawberries' yesterday which i am quite excited about - a friend recommended it as apparently woody allen used it as a sort of basis to 'deconstructing harry'. i guess it is all very heideggerian - death is what gives meaning to life. the new album seems to be remaining pretty high in the charts when i wandered along oxford street - at the risk of being prophet of doom , is a fifth album possible/feasible after the success currently? is an element of 'selling out' inevitable? Divine Comedy seem to lose it a bit after promenade and liberation and i would hate to see B+S go the same way. Other famous glaswegians - RD Laing - hip anti-psychiatrist of 1960s/70s. So long. _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sun Jul 2 22:25:36 2000 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 22:25:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hungry puppies need to be fed Message-ID: <002601bfe46c$114fb320$4c90183e@default> Hi Twee Majority. ***Getting Old*** I'm turning 19 on Wednesday (5th) - this means that I'm now entering my last ever year as a teenager. I don't want to get old - I haven't done enough teenagery things and now it's almost too late!!! *screams* I really am worrying - the time seems to pass so quickly nowadays, I'll be 40 before I know it! ***TitP*** "If it's goat a tit in it, it'll dae me!" - Frank "Frankie Boy" "Macca" MacAvennie I hope I'll see a few of you there - I'll definately be at Looper and King Adora on Saturday, Soulwax on Sunday - so if anyone recognises me, please come up and say hello :) If anyone wants my mobile number, just mail me and ask ***Roskilde*** I was deeply saddened to hear of the tragic and appalingly random deaths of eight music fans at the Danish music festival. They should not have died. This is not enough, but nothing else I can say will be either. Let's hope that the same mistakes are never made again. ***Buggering Off*** Cheerio --Jason Andreas If nice guys finish last, then I'll never finish at all... ICQ: 45821217 AIM: RadioJase +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sophiesea at xxx.com Sun Jul 2 23:29:24 2000 From: sophiesea at xxx.com (sophie harris) Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 22:29:24 GMT Subject: Sinister: *is* every day like sunday? Message-ID: <20000702222924.24584.qmail@hotmail.com> hello you sweet things, I shant keep you long - just wanted to know if anyone else gets sundaynight weirdness� y'know when everythings kinda in order, but you just feel� a bit weird� hmmmm. My mum calls it sundowning - I reckon it's just a bit scary when you realise you'ce got the whole week ahead of you and as soon as you go to bed, the week will begin� hmmm. Right now, the song I have going through my head is from 'spider' which was the finest animated teevee thing since bagpuss if you ask me - it's called 'on the clouds' or somesuch - altho the best song by far is 'true friend' - did anyone else watch spider?� weeellllll on my stereo at the moment, I am recording 'happy sad' by tim buckly which I purchaaased today in the surprisingly good hmv sale(�4.99 - raah!) - I 'd never heard it properly before, but my friend david said it's that good that I was won round, and I listened to it when I got home and it's just *lovely*� I aslo got clouds by joni mitchell and (at last) my own lazy line pj - yay. Actually, thinking about feast of music to listen to on train to work has cheered me up a bit. in last night's lackofsleep dream, I was at a strangely deserted festivel, when the super furries came on and did 'bad behavoir' and I jumped about a lot, and then gruff asked if they could come back to my house (pah!), and then I woke up. curses. I *still* havnt had a proper b&s dream, I just wake up with the songs in my head, which I guess is no bad thing� nor hav I got an intersting belt, shiny blue or otherwise� and clearly I still cant type�. ahhh well, 's not so bad. I have blackcurrant tea, and actually a little smile on my face come to think of it. 'ray! okay that's me for now, but keep joyful flags flying and stuff and kisses and peaceful starry nights to all� love and jam xs ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From FakingUpARampage at xxx.com Mon Jul 3 01:04:43 2000 From: FakingUpARampage at xxx.com (FakingUpARampage at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 20:04:43 EDT Subject: Sinister: please dont let them feed me a monkey butter Message-ID: 2 days in a row!! a personal record. a well... some things i thought i'de mention. i know how a pheasant walks. apparently quite like a chicken. i thought i would share this. you see, there are 2 (yes 2) stuffed pheasants in my computer room. why you ask? we used to have hunting dogs. but they look like chickens damnit. just with prettier colours. tho i had a teacher once who had blue and pink chickens. she said their eggs were different colours. and this has probably been gone over in detail, but yes..i am still behind. still about 200 to read. but... yeah. i want to say it anyway. yay honey for being mentioned in the thankyou notes!! ok, now i feel good. katrina and david are there too, but we expected that. didnt we? lalala... my copy of fishyclap (is that still usable? cos frankly, im wonder.. but i like it, so i will) is already all scratchy. this is disturbing. this is my summer wasting. i have done nothing so far. ziltch. and i feel really bad about it. but frankly, i'm lazy. and it feels likes its been so long, but only a matter of weeks. ick. i'll stop now.. or else i'll get really mopy and bitchy and you'll all want to shoot me in the head. xoxox Jes +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From enlid at xxx.com Mon Jul 3 01:45:29 2000 From: enlid at xxx.com (Vegard Enlid) Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 17:45:29 PDT Subject: Sinister: Shady whims & obstacles Message-ID: <20000703004529.31989.qmail@hotmail.com> *different opinions, festival tragedy, fear of phones and great music* Finally got my hands on FYHC, and I love it. I have to agree with Sp*rkle horse, I like "Beyond The Sunrise" as well. I suspect some of you might have skipped the mighty Scott Walker in your musical curriculum, 'cause he would be perfect singing just that song. It's not a B&S classic, but you can't deny it's got a decent tune. And It's most certainly better than "Electronic Rennaissance" which, frankly, is crap. Apart from the obvious choices of "I Fought In a War", "The Model", "Waiting For The Moon To Rise", I also love "Nice Day For a Sulk". It's kinda silly, but the chords on it just make me stupidly happy. Have anyone else noticed the "Ringo-by-numbers" drumming when the song "starts" again after the instrumental break? Pure class... The news of the Roskilde Festival-deaths really broke my heart. Today, when I read the news and looked at the photos, I cried my eyes out in front of my computer. Roskilde has always had a friendly, easy-going profile, but I guess that's all gonna change now. What made it worse still, was the fact that my ex-fianc� (sp?) was there. I still love that beautiful girl to bits, and got scared shitless when I heard people had died. She loves Pearl Jam, and she might have been right there at the front. I tried to call her, but the phone-system around the festival area was down due to the traffic. I still haven't reached her, but I know now that all dead were males. So, as tragic as the whole thing is, I'm relieved she's ok. I'm heading for a festival myself tomorrow. Quart is the biggest festival in Norway, and I really look forward to it, despite the tragedy in Denmark. I go there to work, though, so I won't enjoy it as much as I want to. I was really surprised when my newspaper decided to send me, because the seasoned music writers seem to grab all the fun festivals. But I get the feeling my boss likes me. If only he knew... I feel very bad about the way I do my job. I have a fear of phones (quite a drawback when you're a journalist, you'll have to agree), and I really have to push myself to make calls. I have this frustrating tendency to stutter when I'm about to introduce myself, which is terribly annoying. Once I get passed the introduction, I'm fine, but then I often get freaked out by the bad start, and making calls becomes this huge mountain to climb. I've struggled with it from time to time in the past, and I hope it'll go away this time too. Well, fun as it is, enough whining for now. There's gonna be a great deal of tasty bands at the festival, and I can't wait to see Lambchop, Eels, Elliott Smith, Ben Christophers, Mojave 3, St. Etienne, Macy Gray (who is absolutely brilliant by the way. How can you not like her!!??), Death In Vegas, Flaming Lips, Moby, Yo La Tengo and a lot of other goodies. I guess I'll check out Oasis too, just for a laff y'know... I'll try to get some interviews done, and I think I have a fair chance of talking to Beth Orton, Lambchop and Ben Christophers. Macy Gray was out of the question, according to Sony. Well, that's more free time for me to enjoy the music and the festival vibe. Which brings me to the point of this post. Are there any Sinisterines attending Quart this year? I haven't seen many Norwegians lurking around here, but then again I'm quite new to the list. If some of you are going, why don't you email me (before tuesday) and maybe we can get together? Love, Vegard who discovered the beauty that is Gram Parsons this weekend. Hear "Brass Buttons" and weep... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From declan63 at xxx.com Mon Jul 3 05:46:40 2000 From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:46:40 -0400 Subject: Sinister: not terrific but competent Message-ID: <009401bfe4a9$adb094e0$2a101218@athen1.ga.home.com> i've just been released so i thought i'd briefly say hello. i'm jay nagy, 24, in athens, ga. i'm a semi-professional writer (that is, being paid a tiny, tiny amount of money) and an amateur-in-many-respects musician. i'd like to somehow earn a living with writing or photography at some point, but the important thing is i don't live at home anymore! (oh now *that* was a fun post-collegiate two years!) erm, with a lack of anything too interesting to say at this point, i'll offer some of my pictures to peruse at http://briefcase.yahoo.com/jnagy63 which you might enjoy more than reading *this*. i've enjoyed reading the list the past couple of weeks and look forward to talking with you all, even if i can't make it to any of the picnics any time soon. sinister seems a lot like the elvis costello list i'm on where i gab away incessantly sometimes, full of great people that see each other often and pour in from everywhere for shows. glad i could find another one! til then, cheers and thanks, jay +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MCFC9 at xxx.com Mon Jul 3 07:06:31 2000 From: MCFC9 at xxx.com (MCFC9 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 02:06:31 EDT Subject: Sinister: Right out of the nursery.... Message-ID: <57.7e11489.26918767@aol.com> Hello all Sinisteroos! I've just been given my voice, so I thought I might send an email along.(I'm actually just fishing for "welcome's") My name is Mike and I am a university student from the USof A. For those who don't know, it's a very small country which is probably across some ocean or another from many of you. Um, I like holding hands, sunset walks on the beach and movies about defeating Nazis (damn those fascists!) So furthermore, I guess I'll just join in the fun and give my partial review of FISHYFLAPPYCLAPTRAP, since everyone else is. Most of it's quite brilliant, I don't really like "Beyond the Sunrise", I feel it's below par. I do, however like "The Wrong Girl". I think it's GRATE. Even BLOODY GRATE, I suppose, even though my favorite record is probably Tigermilk. It's really GRATE, don't you think? Oh, and I happen to like Baxendale, but I suppose that must be because I'm under the age of 20, right? OK, that's all for me tonight, I might chime in occasionally because all of you Sinister cats are so groovy. In fact, this is the best list I've ever belonged to. Well, anyway, all of you may feel free to email me privately if you just want to shoot the breeze, or what have you. Mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cellophanesky at xxx.com Mon Jul 3 07:17:23 2000 From: cellophanesky at xxx.com (Brian Pennington) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 02:17:23 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Songs That Really Aren't Belle & Sebastian In-Reply-To: <5b.7fa4ba0.268fd0c4@aol.com> References: <5b.7fa4ba0.268fd0c4@aol.com> Message-ID: Hello, I've sort of felt like posting, but I don't think my life is very sinister-worthy, and there seems to be little to discuss now that the album is out. Aha! But someone had some questions I can answer... Jes asked: >i was recently given a copy of bowlie. i believe its bowlie. its a radio >broadcast tho, so it kinda confuses me. and it says 'booley fest at >edinburg'. anyway, whats the lovely little song that keeps repeating the >word love? i'm horrible and cant remember anymore lyrics yet. is that >Rhoda? Have they ever played Rhoda live, I wonder. No, it's not Rhoda. You will know Rhoda by the immense number of times Stuart sings the word fag. The word love is in the song somewhere, but I know that's not it because I also have a tape of Bowlie. My tape, however, is somewhere I don't feel like looking. Maybe it's Lord Anthony? and she also asked: >i d/led some mp3 that is supposedly by b&s called 'the hour'. it sounds like >maybe StuD singing, but i cant tell cos the quality is kinda odd. is it >indeed them? No, I downloaded this too, out of curiosity. It is, in fact, "An Hour Before the Light," by the fantastic Clientele. The one I downloaded was simply entitled 'An Hour.' There's at least one other mis-labelled song on Napster. Sunset somethingorother, and it's actually a Stephin Merritt song. Sunset City maybe. Something like that. There are probably others floating about. Yeah, that should do it for B&S content. My life doesn't bear much description to you all. Mostly I've spent my days writing and recording songs, and then forcing people in #sinister to listen to them on MP3.com. And staying up very late, then getting up late too. Fascinating, I know. Back to your regularly scheduled posts. -- Brian Pennington, aka Mick McMick | cellophanesky at mac.com | ICQ# 39021436 Sandcastle Records: the Cellophane Sky: "Better a tear of truth than smiling lies." - Duncan Browne +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clb112 at xxx.uk Mon Jul 3 11:28:30 2000 From: clb112 at xxx.uk (clb112) Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 11:28:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: <39606ACD.6F3EE110@york.ac.uk> PLease, everyone, Electronic REnaissance ISN'T crap - listen to it again !!! xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Adam.Williams at xxx.uk Mon Jul 3 12:31:50 2000 From: Adam.Williams at xxx.uk (Williams Adam (Mr A)) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:31:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: F***in' Monkeys Message-ID: <2F6030D3D79DD3119A8300902732B91FF68C3C@FELPRV02> May I just say that you're all a bunch of bastards. Utter bastards. Well not all of you. In fact I think most of you are really quite lovely. But there is an utter, utter bastard in our midst, oh yes. I know not whom, their name evades me, and even if I did know I wouldn't say because Mummy taught me that it's rude to point. Even at utter, utter, UTTER bastards. Who smell of wee. Yes, someone last week mentioned the TOTP gorilla. Again. I avoided the list at time of said incident out of self love and not wanting to hurt my delicate thespian feelings, but just as one feels it's safe to peep over the parapet the monkey is mentioned. DO YOU NOT KNOW HOW I COVETED THAT ROLE? Why not just mention the Sc***ish pl*y and PISS ON MY GRAVE? I'm sorry to disillusion those of you who thought that Stuart and Co whisked up the monkey idea in a fit of high-jinks spontaneity, but it was a cleverly considered scheme from Sell-Out Central Corp. I answered the Ad in Stage sometime in February, attended a plethora of auditions (I, as ever, showed them my Willy Lomax to gasps and coos of admiration, costume fittings and the like and was nigh on assured that the part was mine. Off then I went, plunged into an arduous regime of bananas and David Attenborough videos in my dedication to 'The Method'. I even spent a week with Keith Harris' hand up my arse. Although strictly speaking that wasn't related. Oh yes, if a part's worth doing, it's worth doing well and never let it be said that I, Adam Aloysius Slinky III (the list surname is a Nom de guerre sop to the Welsh Ethnic thing my agent foisted upon me back when Cerys was cool) am less than 100% committed to my craft. No, sod it, 115%. That covers my agent's cut as well. Anyway, I digress. Suffice to say I was royally shafted at the last minute in a way that would make Prince Edward blanch. No reason was given, just half-hearted apologies and the promise of 'future work'. Yes, yes. That old chestnut. Don't call us... It's not my only knockback of late either. I flew into Glasto a couple of weeks hence to assume my usual role of Bowie's squirming shame and somnambulism. "Sorry Slinks", he says, "But I won't be needing you today, I've decided to go back to being a God again." I began to plead with him "But, Dave..." "That's Dame David to you now Slinks." he sneered. "Now on your knees and kiss my velvet boot." I was so dented I had to spend extra time with my support group. Lovely lad, he is. Works from a flat off Wardour Street. So now it's to you, dear list, that I turn. And please do not consider this list abuse, for I am part of the list and to act in so brazen a way would be to act against my self. Although, as such, I am not entirely averse to self abuse. But onwards with my plea. I'm available. All parts considered. You must have seen me in the Shake n Vac ads back in the 70s, but my most sparkling work has been in the pop and rock community. Gaz Coombe's sideburns, Brittney's pert chest (pre-op. Got kicked off the role in favour of Brummie fraud), Damon's ego. Etcetera. etcetera. Hold on, my mobile's vibrating... Well must dash. That was my agent. I've got to go and pile pounds on in a way to make De Niro look like the skinny freak he was in Raging Bull. I'll see you all on tour sometime soon. Wave to me do. I'll be playing Isobels's arse. Mwah mwah. Ciao. a. PS. I could say I love Baxendale. But i would be saying it with irony. PPS. I can say I hate Bis. Tradition demands it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dontlookatmyaddressnaughty at xxx.com Tue Jul 4 02:13:25 2000 From: dontlookatmyaddressnaughty at xxx.com ( ) Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 02:13:25 ICT Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #201 Message-ID: <20000703191325.71102.qmail@hotmail.com> i think i was Bob Dylan in a past life. so a quick run down of todays life deforming events (why do people think i always use deforming ina bad sense? negative. maybe thats what it means i dont pretend to know. people are always coming up to me and asking whats so bad about et cetera and like why oh mother earth do you feel so bad about that sonny jim) a: got a whole bunch of photograpsh et cetera via the post b:accidentely smashd a pint glass C: whilst a parent/guardian cleared out the freezer i went down town with a bucket of ice and threw it over the semi-old arte-walsys-walking-to-and-from-the-town-centre with-old-style-grey-and-brown-cow-skin-bags and their son. then i laughed and took photos of them pulling bobble hats out of their bergens and saying its a bit of an early winter isnt it doris? doris? JACK she bloody fucking getting hypo-Thermia Arg. Arg. Arg. and thats about it now. must drink tea, want to see a photo of me sat on a car? http://members.internetjunk.com/i2eye/roboncar.JPG ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david at xxx.uk Mon Jul 3 18:02:52 2000 From: david at xxx.uk (David White) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:02:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: SKDGLMPJPGSGC Message-ID: **Small World** Crikey, I've seen two place names I live near on this list recently: Kilwinning and Lochwinnoch. It just goes to show that you never know where people are sending things from by e-mail. Anybody else want to admit that they're from this neck of the woods? **Summer** June was a seriously boring month. I'm not complaining but when the weather's nicer (well a couple of days of sunshine in a row) and the nights are shorter, life just seems to pass at a slower pace. Fucking hayfever is a bastard as well (you'll know what I mean if you are afflicted by it too). You can't even enjoy the good weather cos you spend hours on end sneezing. I reckon my nose must resemble that bird off of Eastenders who was in the papers the other week and whose nose had disintegrated cos she kept, ahem, powdering it, cos I've sneezed so much. **Football** Anybody else gutted that Euro 2000 is finished? No football on telly for another month!!! Still it was a fantastic tournament and great entertainment and I actually felt sorry for the Italians at the end after labeling as boring, cheating bastards after beating Holland. **Content** Visit www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk now.... Can't be arsed writing anything else. Dave david at belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david at xxx.uk Mon Jul 3 23:23:54 2000 From: david at xxx.uk (David White) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:23:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Electronic Renaissance Message-ID: clb112 wrote: >PLease, everyone, Electronic REnaissance ISN'T crap - listen to it again Sorry but I think it is crap, arguably the worst B&S track. Well maybe that's a bit harsh, it's just stands out like a beacon on the otherwise faultless Tigermilk. Perhaps on another album by another band it would be OK but on Tigermilk it just sounds shit. Still The Stone Roses has the godawful Don't Stop which is also pish but that's still the finest album I've ever heard. I suppose that's why CD players have skip buttons! See ya, Dave www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mouche75 at xxx.com Tue Jul 4 03:22:31 2000 From: Mouche75 at xxx.com (Mouche75 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:22:31 EDT Subject: Sinister: renaissances and sunrises Message-ID: <7a.75d207e.2692a467@aol.com> Hey Sinister people, Just a brief note to leap to the defence of Electronic Renaissance. It gorgeous! The synthesizers sort of sound like... smiles breaking out all over the place. I love that. D'you know Synthstrument by Lou Barlow? It's that kind of sound. Lovely kodakcolor sunshine. Beyond the Sunrise really puzzles me though... it sounds like a jokey song that might be used to pad out a single, but.... well... it isn't is it? Fold your Hands... came out the day before my final exam. i knew that if I bought it then I'd never be able to listen to it, because it would always remind me of dread and abject fear. So I bought it on the Tuesday. B&S songs seem to almost exclusively remind me of happy days, I couldn't jeopardise that. I had this fantastic day about five years ago, in the winter time. I'd been going out with someone for a week or so, and we were coming home after a night out. We were both a little drunk, and we sort of sunk back into the seat of the taxi and watched the streetlights zip over us through the back windshield. It was snowing, and the snow sort of haloed the streetlights. And all I could hear was the grumbling of the engine. And all I could feel was this pulse hammering in my neck. And I don't know why, but every time I listen to Stars of Track and Field, I'm reminded of that. It happened way before I'd even heard of Belle and Sebastian, but it's really specific. It's kind of tied up with sooty sandstone and bridges and stuff like that. Now it's July, can I regale you with my favourite June story? When I was at the sports day a few weeks ago, there was an obstacle race for Primary 2 kids, where they had to run twenty yards with a bean bag between their legs, then go through a hula hoop, then scramble under this blanket, then run like billy-o for another twenty yards to finish. So the race starts, and all the usual suspects streak ahead, leaving this puffy little kid bringing up the rear, zigzagging all over the place. Everyone had finished by the time he'd got to the hula hoop, but he soldiered on, and disappeared under the blanket. For the next thirty seconds all you could see was this confused little bump going round in circles under ten square feet of fabric. He emerged eventually, looking dazed, carrying a clump of grass in one hand, and a shoe in the other. It was fantastic. Ah well, it's late and I need to hit the hay so i can be bright and attentive and... interested at the job centre tomorrow. But I hope everyone is dandy and fine. bodypopping, mouche +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jules at xxx.cx Sun Jul 2 07:15:56 2000 From: jules at xxx.cx (Julie) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 02:15:56 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Just alive enough to die. Message-ID: <000201bfe57f$9b77f300$0fa9fea9@udrtg> A while ago I told Alix that I would respond to her post, but then she wrote all this rubbish about Glastonbury and I thought "Now what am I, an American, supposed to say about that?" Our festivals here consist of crowdsurfing and gang rapes to the obnoxious sounds of Limp Bizkit. Bah. Festivals suck, I always get hurt and dehydrated at them, and I leave cranky. Last year I missed seeing Beth Orton at a festival (the Feztival, actually) because my lip was bleeding profusely after I was kicked in the face by a crowd surfer. Fuck festies! Luckily Alix wrote again the next day and I can say things. Lixi said: >Nick Dastoor materialised briefly You mean he wasn't training? For a VERY IMPORTANT football match? She also said: >...not realising that it was their sex >they were changing. I have a friend who seems to be making the transformation to drag queen veeeeery slowly, he's been working on it for a few years now. We had lost touch, but one day I was in Hot Topic in Wilkes Barre and I was thinking about how lame I was for being in Hot Topic, but I went to check out my kickass Powerpuff Girls t shirt and who waited on me but said friend. He was wearing a little more makeup and sporting a few more piercings than the last time I saw him. He hopped over the counter and gave me a hug and the shopper goths gave us funny looks. That really had nothing to do with anything, did it? Later on, this guy Steve said: >i have this new belt and like it alot. its electric blue and really thin, >and it sort of looks like a ribon and has this weird very faint red stiching >running along it. and these quick release clips for easy 'belt-on' >'belt-off' action! yes! now i can be in and out of my pants faster than a >jack rabbit! not that i'm ever out of my pants for very long. I'd like to say that I have a magnetic Smurf belt, and it's wonderful. I have a Cabbage Patch Kid one too, but the Smurf belt is better and the elastic is holding up a lot better (I've had these belts since about 1984). So if you're at a show and you see a girl with a Smurfy belt, that's me! Probably. Also, a lot of boys have been talking about dropping their pants in my presence lately. I like it!! I've got nuffin' to say about Belle & Sebastian, except I think my favorite song of the moment is String Bean Jean as it's been in my head for the last few days. Also, I hung my Tigermilk poster in my room in Pennsylvania and put a lovely border of silver stars around it, so it's not going back to New York with me. Speaking of New York, I'm moving back tomorrow, wheeeeee. A very happy Independence Day to all of my fellow Americans and a big :oÞ to you Brit lot. This is the time of the year when alcohol and gunpowder combine, legally. Usually. My dad's got a stash of super illegal fireworks in our garage, so if our house ever catches on fire be sure to stand in the street and watch as there will be a lovely pyrotechnic display as my belongings are consumed in flames. I watched Shallow Grave tonight, and as it was one of the few Ewan movies actually set in Scotland, WHY WAS HE NOT WEARING A KILT AT ALL??? More kilts! More kilts! C'mon, you have to admit he looked cute in that kilt at the end of a A Life Less Ordinary. It made the whole movie worth it. I love you all. Kisses to all who deserve it. xoxo Julie "It's only pop music, why are you asking me all these questions?!" -Robbie Williams +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jnikolaeff at xxx.au Tue Jul 4 08:01:37 2000 From: jnikolaeff at xxx.au (jnikolaeff at xxx.au) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 16:31:37 +0930 Subject: Sinister: I don't care if I'm alone here singing songs to myself. Message-ID: Long time no list - my email has been possessed by evil things... B&S Content: New album - I am in love! I only got sinister a couple of months ago, and my boy took it away from me before I got over the obsession stage, so I didn't really think I would get hung up on the new album so easily as I did. But I did. Yay. Women's Realm and Wrong Girl and There's too much love to go around - they fill my head each and every day with beautiful harmonies and handclaps Aaaahhhhh. They make me feel like I'm ACTUALLY IN LOVE with my boy. How about that? The Chalet Lines - an aquaintence and I were discussing this song at Pop! on Sat night over many vodkas. Do we think this horror happened to a boy, a girl, or written to refer to either? Julie wrote: I watched Shallow Grave tonight, and as it was one of the few Ewan movies actually set in Scotland,... The Pillow Book is on tonight - is this movie actually good or is my friend only obsessed with seeing Ewan's rude bits when she says I just HAVE to watch it? Probably the latter.... Merrick & Rosso: Motorace played on "House of Hits" on Sunday, their last show on tv as they've been axed (oh my I'm so upset...). For those not from oz I guess I would liken it to totp or mtv, except WAY commercial. Motorace are indie alt, and after being on Merrick & Rosso decided that when they played on Sun the drummer would pretend to be the guitarist and vice versa as its just lip sync anyway. And the hosts didn't even know. (funny about that - they probably didn't even know who they were...) **I think all non-mainstream bands should take a leaf out of their book and stick it up the networks. Sorry, I got a bit cross then - I can't help it when I think about commercial music..... I think that's all I can bullshit at the moment - I am bored and want to go home from work but have too much time to make up. but on the bright side I'm going to the pub in about an hour and a half for a nice cold pint of pale and a chat with my new partner in musical crime - looking at recording soon. Yay! Roskilde: My deepest sympathies to all the families and friends who were affected. Cheers from Oz radiation girl aka Juliya +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kgtvb at xxx.com Tue Jul 4 10:14:32 2000 From: kgtvb at xxx.com (kg) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 02:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: ribena and home decor b&s style Message-ID: <20000704091432.341.qmail@web3705.mail.yahoo.com> hi everyone... well, Independence Day is upon us here in the states. and i'm sitting here thinking.. big whoop. if we had never overcome the British i would be sipping on a Ribena right now and i wouldn't have to shell out so much dough for imports... cos well, they wouldn't be really be imports then would they? I recently spent 3 weeks in the u.k. where i quickly developed a ribena addiction. maybe you take it for granted or even hate the stuff... but i love it and you can't get it in america! or anything like it! i even emailed Ribena and pleaded with them to start selling it over here. i know it's supposed to be bad for your teeth and all, but boy oh boy is it good! and oh yeah, in case those of of you who live in the U.K. didn't know, your Cadbury's chocolate bars are ten times tastier than the cadbury products they sell in the U.S. i wish i knew why. anyhow, enough about sweets. funny thing... i was walking by the record store sorta near my house and in the window they have a big fishyclap display... it looks as though someone took the time to copy the drawing from the cover onto a big cardboard cutout.. or i dunno, it at least looked like someone made it...anyhow that was against the window and hanging behind that there's a big piece of clear vinyl that says Belle & Sebastian and then there's a cut-out of the cover of fishyclap again. then behind all that there are a bunch of promo posters. anyhow... if you look at it from across the street or if you just whiz by it quickly on a bike, the big vinyl part looks like a shower curtain.. and i thought wow -- that's really neat! i'd like to have a b&s shower curtain! but alas it's not. anyhow.. i'm happy someone took the time to make such an elaborate window display. that's really nice to see. (if anyone wants to mail me some ribena i'd happily send you someting very nice in return... compilation tapes, little paintings, drawings... i'm willing to negotiate!) <3 kg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atremp at xxx.be Tue Jul 4 11:53:44 2000 From: atremp at xxx.be (annie) Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 12:53:44 +0200 Subject: Sinister: barcelona + thank god for trumpets Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000704125344.007cfd70@mach.vub.ac.be> hello it's been over a year since i've posted so i thought i'd have a go at it now it's so quiet on the list... (of course it's got nothing to do with the fact i've got some favours to ask, oh no sir, wouldn't do that. well i would, so sorry mummy, and everyone else) about fyhcywlap (can't bring myself to say fyshyclap, sounds too horrible, and fyhcywlap looks a bit like a welsh word (to people like me who don't know a word of it, but any language that has words without a single vowel in them can only be great) and that's nice) oh dear, the brackets got a bit out of control, sorry, i'll just have to start again. about fyhcywlap, i think it's wonderful. especially 'there's too much love' and 'waiting for the moon to rise'. to me those are two of the best songs they ever wrote. and i find it strange sarah's never sung before. i mean, i like isobel's voice, but i'd choose sarah's over hers any time. isobel's voice has gotten nicer on this album though, it sounds like she's got it more under control. as for 'the chalet lines', i quite like it, but i can't bring myself to listen to it very much, most of the time i just skip it. this album is really chris's album isn't it? i mean, maybe it's just me but the keyboards sound more prominent, and they do sound great too... another thing i wanted to say is TRUMPETS! aah, trumpets. what's there not to like about them? there's nothing like a bit of trumpet to make a song sound even better... i don't think there are actually any more trumpets on this album than the others, but i'll take any excuse to talk about them. and what a great name for a instrument. trumpet! now for the barcelona part... me and a friend are going there for a couple of days and i was wondering if there are any listees from barcelona or around there who could give us information about the stuff you don't find in the tourist guides, like good record stores, clubs...? if you'd like we could also have a meet-up or hold a picnic or something similar, as long as you'll settle for two girls who don't speak a word of spanish or catalan. i started to read my assimil book (which dates from 1957 and practically fell to pieces in my hands) yesterday evening but i doubt it'll make me an expert by sunday. anyway, we'll be there from sunday the 9th til tuesday the 18th, so if there's anyone willing to help could you please mail me before sunday? thanks a lot! lots of love to you all, and sorry for the list abuse (mind you, maybe the list likes a bit of abuse from time to time, next time i'll bring the whip!) annie xo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sophiesea at xxx.com Tue Jul 4 15:22:11 2000 From: sophiesea at xxx.com (sophie harris) Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 14:22:11 GMT Subject: Sinister: bourgeiosie pastie Message-ID: <20000704142211.57279.qmail@hotmail.com> hee hee, mouche your sports day tale made me laugh outloud (quite quietly as am at work, and pretending to be good), but i think it's such a nice thing to laugh in the morning, when you don't quite know what the day will bring... aaw viva le underdog clutching his shoe... i really miss sports day actually - the joy of egg and spoon, and sack race. sigh. potential horror of parents in mums and dads races. (jumpers for goal posts etc....) aaw i'm afrwaid (ooh i like that spelling) that i can't stop myself any longer from listing my fold your child top ten oreleven? - but anyway, please feel free to scroll, here they are: 1. woman's realm (golden golden b&s) 2. the model (the strings at the end... make my heart feel fluttery) 3. don't leave the light on baby ('cause i keep seeming to have bloody stupid days, butthen i'll put this on as i walk over the river (on a bridge obvoiusly), and actually quite love that i have bloody stupid days, and i can feel the wind in my hair and i'm going home...) 4.there's too much love to go around (for the 'i could dance all night just like a soulboy / but you know i'd rather drag myself across the dance floor' - standing in a bar on sat. night, too hungover to drink, no air con, full of shirts and skirts... and that's what i thought of... 'cept soulgirl doesn't really work does it?) 5. family tree 6.nice day for a sulk (reminds me of 'raindrops keep fallin on my head by sacha distell - ooh and the ringo by numbers thing - so true... makes me skip down the road if there's noone there) 7.i fought ina war (or i fought in a bra as i think feather boa once said - i now alsways have an image of struan in uniform with bra over jacket. brendon has image of bra provocatively poking out from underneath. so it kinda changes the way i hear the song just now) 8. chalet lines - it's v. hard to properly listn and not cry... 9. the wrong girl (the me&the major here, for me - in fact me and hte major used to be my least fave of sinister - but then at 2000TT it came on and i was *thrilled* and danced my socks off and then jumped in puddles all the way home and had wet feet but didntcare) 10.beyond the sunrise (*eh*???) 11. waiting for the moon to rise (whoever said it's like black beauty is right i reckon... bring back silas marner...) sheesh though, i should go before i ramble on into a lampost, so ta ra chickatees love and tea and honey on toast xs ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 50158120 at xxx.hk Tue Jul 4 16:36:56 2000 From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan) Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 23:36:56 +0800 Subject: Sinister: louder! that world won't listen. Message-ID: <962725016.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk> ---------Included Message---------- >Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 11:28:30 +0100 >From: "clb112" >Reply-To: "clb112" >To: >Subject: Sinister: (no subject) > >PLease, everyone, Electronic REnaissance ISN'T crap - listen to it again >!!! Agree!!!!!!!! And, now i ve The Queen is Dead, The Smith(debut), Meat is Murder, Hateful of Hollow, Rank(live) and Strange way.... Should i buy Louder than the bomb or The World Won't listen??? HELP ME!!!!!!!! .. Coz one of it huv Sweet and..... hooligan and sally (?) take a bow... one huv...... And I pick up lots of CD from Hong Kong HMV crazy sales, Beastie Boy latest compilation HKD60, Joy Division's Closer, Smith's debut and meat is murder for HKD 75, Earl Brutus's Tonight you are the Special one (I only buy it for the way it looks) Bedlam Go Go, Smash ep for 20hkd. And..... Sleeper's single with Graham Coxon on the sax, 10 hkd. .....etc....... Pls help me for the smith question, mates... Toby Chan.... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mindmonkey1 at xxx.com Tue Jul 4 16:47:28 2000 From: mindmonkey1 at xxx.com (ineffable) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 08:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: the viennese science Message-ID: <13569935.962725648610.JavaMail.imail@almond.excite.com> Hello. A strange inner force drives me yet again to pop my head up above the parapets and mail to the list. I have had a strangely good couple of days since I last posted - had a bit of a fling with a girl I work with and quite a nice week at work thus far. Spent a peculiar hour with my psychotherapy supervisor yesterday after lunch where we chatted about my patient - the more we chatted the more this otherwise quite pleasant patient became something of a grotesque. There is no innocence in psychoanalyis. I saw the patient before I started work today and I think it was all for the good - my chat had encouraged me to be a little more proactive and it seemed as if things went well. Perhaps I am having fantasies of salvation - there could be something to this mumbo-jumbo after all. Do people like London? I am not sure whether I am bored or not. Two of my friends whom I trained with have just got their (nurse) girlfriends pregnant - one is going to have a termination and the other is going to settle down with her. Both of them are completely battered by life at present - twentysomething is great when you have a bit of money but, as always, something stitches you up - although obviously they are in a large part responsible for 'the state they are in'. The reason I write this is that the one who is not settling down is thinking of fleeing and setting up a new life somewhere - where do you recommend? I am all for Glasgow as there are lots of beautiful Indian girls with Scottish accents. I think this is a good thing and probably quite close to what heaven is like, although I am no theologian. I guess the danger with moving is that one has to have the right reasons - I suppose we all try to recreate the past (for me this would be when I was 20/21 as an undergraduate) and there is a risk that one misconstrues geography for autobiography. Unlike Dr Who we can travel in space but not time. I'm not sure quite what I am saying here - I suppose as Wayne Campbell said 'live in the now dude'. (or was it Garth?) I have been scanning poor schizophrenic's brains most of the day but will try to pop into Woolies on the way home to buy some blank tapes to record some B+S and Tindersticks for my friend. Although the latter may be a little depressing... A chap called Alisdair e-mailed me with a question - I hope this is a sort of answer and I am eager to learn who Trouse is? For what it is worth I quite like Electronic Renaissance - a homage. Quite funny. For good health and greater happiness read Evelyn Waugh. Bye-bye. _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From declan63 at xxx.com Tue Jul 4 17:18:43 2000 From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 12:18:43 -0400 Subject: Sinister: bourgeiosie pastie References: <20000704142211.57279.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <006101bfe5d3$8655e6e0$2a101218@athen1.ga.home.com> > 6.nice day for a sulk (reminds me of 'raindrops keep fallin on my head by > sacha distell - ooh and the ringo by numbers thing - so true... makes me > skip down the road if there's noone there) this always mixes in my head with "martha, my dear" from the white album. i think it's just the way the melody goes up high in the chorus. other than that, i don't think i've heard such a meticulous magical mystery pepper recreation before, they must've been pumping geoff emerick for information. "no no, i want *that* vocal sound, with *that* echo. awwwwww, cmon geoff!" if i remember correctly, richard was saying it was very beach boys-influenced, but it seems much more english to me. as for "electronic renaissance", i've been re-evaluating it since the discussion came up here and i really do like it now after habitually skipping it for months. i think it's the tinny echo on stuart's voice that hooks me. i still avoid "mary jo" though. ("you *what*?!") i know a lot of people love that song, but it tends to kill the giddy sort of melancholy i get from the previous two songs. there's things i can identity with in her story, and then all of a sudden she's leaving me for dead! yeesh. *you're* brutal and i'm afraid of you, mary. :) jay, who's still blushing at receiving a crush vote "now that you've made me want to die, you tell me that you're unboyfriendable" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LunaLilly at xxx.com Tue Jul 4 17:54:29 2000 From: LunaLilly at xxx.com (LunaLilly at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 12:54:29 EDT Subject: Sinister: hola..I have no clever thing to fill the subject line Message-ID: Maybe if I hadn't just woken up. It's the second day in a row that I slept till almost 11 am. Blah Blah....that's all I hear from my parents and family these days....oh and the occasional....why aren't you doing something with your life? Or You need therapy (my brothers fav) or what about that talk we had about antidepressants...have you thought about it? Oh shove off.....that's what I say....actually I just say that to my brother. I have actually the past few days talked to my parents. I hit a point last week when I realized that I actually am depressed and have never been so badly so...ever. I can't even force a smile....I can't even function on a normal day to day level. And I think I have made myself this way...like I have used it as an excuse to hermit away inside. I have been able to fake it for a long time. But now I just can't fake being happy. Oh my......enough on that. Except that I wasting my summer away and my solace is in the Belle and Sebastian song....yes on everyone's least fav album. which might I plug here for a sec. I like TBWTAS. I really do. I like Tigermilk and Sinister and all the EP's except for Legal Man (don't be mad I just don't and I'm sorry). Infact I like them all for there own beauty..there are definitely songs that I thank God we have the technology of the skip button. But I like "I spent the summer wasting" it's nice. So hmm....I don't know what else I can say. I'm sure there are many other things but I have lost my motivation. I'm going to cut my hair now. Please all be lovely and nice to animals...take time to smile and hold doors open for old people. Olivia +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Tue Jul 4 15:48:23 2000 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 15:48:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: THings and Stuff Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69014A3D31@park_ex> Hello babies Nice weekend? Good. Sophie said: > just wanted to know if anyone else gets sundaynight weirdness... y'know > when > everythings kinda in order, but you just feel... a bit weird... hmmmm. My > mum > calls it sundowning - I reckon it's just a bit scary when you realise > you'ce > got the whole week ahead of you and as soon as you go to bed, the week > will > begin... Oh, I get that, I always thought it was because I hadn't done my homework, although I still occasionally get the same fear even now, usually if i catch the titles from Songs of Praise or Last of the Summer Wine, and it's several years since I've had any homework to do. Thank fuck Howard's Way isn't on anymore, that's all I can say. Sophie also said: > surprisingly good hmv sale(£4.99 - > raah!) - to which I also add my raaaahs as I picked up a couple of Tom Waits CDs (Small Change and Blue Valentine) at £4.99 too. Blue Valentine has Kentucky Avenue on, which is possibly the MOST BEAUTIFUL SONG EVER WRITTEN, in my humble opinion ;) Dickie Knee said: > Carsmile Steve is either confusing the Spectator with the New Statesman or > else > he's making some hard left point about the latter's loss of edge. I > suspect the > former, as he comes from Chelmsford and is probably a member of the > Women's > Institute. which is apparently causing concern amongst the Chelmsford massive. Fear not, I am not moving to your no doubt lovely town, although i do have a mate who lives there. I would like to thank Dickie for pointing out my original mistake, it's a good thing The Telegraph still have some intelligent people working for them. I am, in fact, a member of the paramilitary wing of the WI, we launch lightening raids on the Mother's Union and nick their jam recipes, tangle their knitting and draw moustaches on their signed photos of Tony Blair, but now i've told you that, I'm going to have to kill you... I've been feeling a bit post-glasto this week, but I'm a lot perkier now cos: a) I had an interview in Oxford yesterday (for a half decent job) and have another one next week (for a really good job). Does anyone know anything about Ruskin College? b) I'm definitely coming to the Lun-Ding picnic next weekend and i'm bringing mrs carsmile and my sister and her boyfriend. Unfortunately we're only coming on a daytrip as they have to get their train home on the sunday, so this visit will involve NO STUPID DANCING in niteclubs at 2 in the morning, well not unless someone really persuades me ;) Isn't irony the blue peter dog that took over from goldie? I was always impressed by her subsequent career as floor-filling junglist. xoxo CarsmileSteve Actually, thinking about it, the Blue Peter dogs that followed goldie were prince, bonnie and the current incumbent mabel. Sad anal retentive, moi? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From freezebum at xxx.com Tue Jul 4 18:30:10 2000 From: freezebum at xxx.com (yellow bananas) Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 17:30:10 GMT Subject: Sinister: being wimpishly sinister Message-ID: <20000704173010.31795.qmail@hotmail.com> hello you lot. i have one burning question and a few other random pontifications. 1. the burning question (and actual content) is the boy on the 3, 6, 9 seconds of light EP stu m? i tried to look in the archive for the answer but came up with either nothing or what seemed like a million matches. either that or i'm just shit at boolean logic. or whatever. 2. FUBJDNVC or something like that. i was going to love the record before i bought it anyway. and it cost me $30 at bloody hmv so i had better like it. nevertheless, i was quite horrified to hear beyond the sunrise. my mum asked me if i was trying to raise the dead. it was quite embarrassing. i suppose it would grow on me if i gave it a chance, but out-of-context, evil tunes give me rash. the list of my favourite tracks is still fluctuating, with beyond the sunrise being a non-factor. but i still like isobel. 3. Beaumont they're lovely. i would listen to it all summer, but it's unfortunately not summer in wet and damp oz. still, i like to be reminded of sunny beaches with boys in boardshorts and girls in bathing suits. or bikinis. whatever. 4. glastonbury i have 2 friends who went. it may not seem like a big deal if they actually lived in the uk, but they got all the way there from singapore. i haven't heard from them since... weeks ago. they brought a video camera. the fools. i hope they're still alive. 5. ribena who was the one who's addicted to ribena? cos you know what? me too. pip pip, HY (hmmm... why do my initials look like a shorter version of FHYSFDKDF? or whatever) "You can't ever find a place that is nice and peaceful, because there isn't any. You may think there is, but once you get there, when you're not looking, somebody'll sneak up and write 'Fuck You' right under your nose." - J.D. Salinger, The Catcher in the Rye ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Tue Jul 4 19:56:44 2000 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 11:56:44 PDT Subject: Sinister: if you ever want to sleep at night,don't marry a beautiful woman Message-ID: <20000704185644.58838.qmail@hotmail.com> It is nice to finally get some sleep after having 20 frat boys across the street with their HONK IF YOU ARE CANADIAN sign on Canada Day. I am feeling resentement for living in the city during summer right now.I yearn for a summer cottage where you just jump two feet off the porch and into the lake...sob sob sob So who has won the Isobel Campbell lookalikey contest yet? Can we have a StuD (Yes I know he's with Looper) lookalikey contest then,to be fair? I'll even arrange and pay for everything.Maybe we can double with Andy Flynn and his deliciously rotund-behinded bride. Oh! Did you know all of B&S's videos can be viewed on that icrunch.com site. Is this old news? It was nice to see all of those videos,even though it's kind of hard to distinguish whats what.Is that Struan in the LLPJ video who gets his skintight muscle t-shirt painted over with a line? Then he runs after the lazy jane into the forest..aggressive. >Lawrence asked: >I'm thinking about sending Isobel an Orange Juice t-shirt I made. >Anyone >ever sent stuff to members of the band? Did they reply. I'm >almost >too>scared too, just because, even though I know I shouldn't >expect famous >people to reply to my letters, at the same time i would >be a wee bit >disappointed if they didn't. (sigh ... again) Maybe this was a dream but for some reason I DO recall Isobel talking about how they get nice things sent to them,for example,somebody sent a blue velvet dress and was like 'Here,I thought someone in Belle and Sebastian could use this'.(I wonder which member of the band eventually wore the dress?)Send some padded handcuffs,with a gentle note attached,"I thought maybe somebody from the band could use these maybe?" I've sent Stuart Murdoch and StuD..(cough,cough)letters.Struan probably laughed at them maniacally and lit them on fire while drinking absinthe in a jacuzzi with nubile supermodels and God knows what StuD did with them.But that was a long time ago.Now,you can send them things and they will try and write back.It even says so on the new album."Write to us and we will try our best to write back." Maybe I should try again.Sigh..it would make my day to get a reply. I love Sarah too.It was her speaking voice that got me.Luscious.I used to be very angry with female members in my beloved male bands,except for that Miki.Yes,yes,so jealous.I'm much better now,in my wizened years.Perhaps it was a secret obssesion.I used to have that with Candida Doyle when I was younger.I spent far too much time drawing unflattering pictures of her,always making sexual advances on the male members,and their little speak-bubbles would always turn her down for their true love,Genevieve. Festivals: I'm working at a festival again.In the gospel tent with the 200 voice choir of the Love Fellowship Crusade.Hurrah! Take that Glastonbury. I love Electronic Renaissance.Is it really viewed as the stinker of Tigermilk? I get a thrill at the echo-y voice sound effect part, "you'll be known as the boy who's always working..working..working..." Struan sounded like such a little waif and now listen to the strength of those vocal chords.Hot damn,momma! My mother is watching a show called Steeple Chasing.A man on his bicycle going around to churches.That smells of Struan so much it hurts me. (Well,before the leather interior incident.) love, Genevieve p.s Very nice to meet cute sinisterine Karo and her lovely scottish friend.It's always nice to be reassured you all exist.I still apologize for not being the best hostess I could be (mmm,bronchitis!) and nice one on my part for being all enthusiastic 'yes,that club has a british and scottish pop night!' and sending them to reggae night instead.My "d'ohhhhh..." echoed into the night. p.p.s seeing as it's independence day,there was an interesting little article in the paper why america is better than canada... "Which leads us to the crisis over our national missile defence system.Canadian military authorities are reportedly convinced that,far from being a plan to shoot down nuclear missiles from dangerous or insane governments, NMD is a plot to further American power.This is not 1812. We're allies,for God's sake.We'd like you to come in on this with us. This is a defensive system,not the latest step in America's secret plan to seize Newfoundland." ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dontlookatmyaddressnaughty at xxx.com Wed Jul 5 04:03:42 2000 From: dontlookatmyaddressnaughty at xxx.com ( ) Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 04:03:42 ICT Subject: Sinister: 'these clothes are not Union made' Message-ID: <20000704210342.21112.qmail@hotmail.com> 'main leading-in street snowy, dark, mad, white-lined, American, meaningless' 'iron fences, porticoed mansions that are now funeral homes' more quote ' i thought the frantic secret thought over a barge and as i pictured myself falling through the air i tried to fight the air, squirm, so as to fly off and move over to hit the water not the barge, and the futility of that!' i wish i could write sentences like that. he never looks like he wears teeshirts either so, todays daily update. the canadian who lives in townthatshallremainnameless (around here) she speaks and theres no trace of yorkshire or wherever in her voice at all, and she has lived here since like the war or something. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Jul 4 20:18:49 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 21:18:49 +0200 Subject: Sinister: The Rodmembrance of Things Past Message-ID: <000201bfe5fc$b2a46220$e496243e@itjfvkli> Sheffield isn't in the Midlands, you know. It's in the North. I recently read that "deja vu" is usually the result of brain disease. This makes the list even more disturbing than usual. Didn't we have a flurry of sympathy for the victims of some festival crowd incident before? They weren't on the list either. But Duke of Harringay was. Duke has come off his bike. In a bid to make it even more B&S, he nearly ploughed into the vicar. Details can be found at the increasingly entertaining web corner http://www.tangents.co.uk Perhaps a flurry of sympathy for Duke's grazed arse would be in order. Get well soon, Duke! I don't know anything about clubs in Barcelona, except that they don't let members of ethnic minorities in. I don't know much about record shops either. There's one in Castelldefels that proudly advertises Laser Discs though. In neon, no less. But if there's a picnic I want to go. Where is Mister Jordi? Can we have the picnic somewhere air-conditioned? Jason (happy birthday Big Tackle) was worrying about not having done enough teenage things. Don't worry Jason, nobody does teenage things. Some people start pretending they did when they approach thirty, but they just sat in watching telly as well. Apparently all great pop makes you feel like you're sixteen. In other words, all great pop makes you feel like a miserable moping drip watching the telly. That was a thinly veiled attack on Tim Popkins, to go with Nick's thinly veiled reference to "fatties" the other day. Besides Jason, you shouldn't worry. By the time you're old, death will have been eradicated and there'll be loads of new ages to get to know and enjoy. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From yertle at xxx.com Tue Jul 4 21:05:01 2000 From: yertle at xxx.com (Bonobo) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 21:05:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Newish person References: <13569935.962725648610.JavaMail.imail@almond.excite.com> Message-ID: <000301bfe601$2f025120$48987ed4@q6p4b0> Honeeeeey!!! You said i had a voice!!! And you didn't let this on last time i sent it!!! :o( So here it is again: 'ello i am new. Well.... i'm not new to anyone on the Sinister Glastonbury list, 'cus i was on that, but i failed to meet anyone. God!!! They were so impatient!!! I was only ten minutes late! And it wasn't my fault! My friend needed to find his cousin (who he didn't find) and i got lost by the big pool of poo by the farmhouse. AND there was a scary man at the gate to the medical tent who shouted at anyone who came near AND ther was a big sign next to the 'medical centre' sign that said 'keep out'! AND on the way back to my tent i had to walk past the Pyramid stage which had the Bluetones playing! (I think the Bluetones are the worst band ever) Oh well, i won't hold a grudge cus Glasto was luverly. Did anyone who went see Badly Drawn Boy? I thought he was really really really really good. Anyways, stuff bout me: I is 16, I is a boy, my name is Bonobo... well that's the name i'm telling you for now, only the VERY privileged get to find out me REAL name!!! I like Belle & Sebastian (well... duh!), I've liked B&S for bout a year, all the stories CarsmileSteve tells you about me are LIES... LIES i tells ya!, I live in Looooondoooon, i have very eclectic musical tastes (my favourite bands list contains some metal, some indie, some rock, some folk, some dance, some rap/dance/reggae/asian stuff and well... lots of other thingies), my stupid telephone doesn't work, for some reason the battery on the portable bit won't recharge, my favourite sweetie for 10p or under is Frosties or Iron Bru bars, i can't quite decide. A little survey: What are the rest of the listees favourite sweeties for 10p or under? Bonobo :o) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jonathan.skinner at xxx.net Tue Jul 4 23:25:38 2000 From: jonathan.skinner at xxx.net (jonathan skinner) Date: 4 Jul 2000 23:25:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: there's loads of people around the realm Message-ID: <20000704222538.5713.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From jonathan.skinner at xxx.net Tue Jul 4 23:25:17 2000 From: jonathan.skinner at xxx.net (jonathan skinner) Date: 4 Jul 2000 23:25:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: there's loads of people around the realm Message-ID: <20000704222517.5681.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From mbethy at xxx.net Wed Jul 5 01:33:44 2000 From: mbethy at xxx.net (mbethy) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 17:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: i'd buy you a parachute if i thought it wouldn't open Message-ID: <20000705003344.DE9C7CC00A@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From holly9 at xxx.au Wed Jul 5 11:17:50 2000 From: holly9 at xxx.au (holly9 at xxx.au) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:17:50 Australia/NSW Subject: Sinister: Spunky Sydney Message-ID: <200007050116.CAA17279@missprint.org> Sydney Sinisterines!! Just thought I'd post, Loaded are having a Spunk! records night this Thursday with a Legal Man/FYSHYCLAP/Geometrid special. It's at the Kings Cross Hotel and free before 12. If you spot a complete loon of a girl running around the dancefloor don't mind me, I've just finished my degree!!! Holly --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using One.Net's Mail Man. http://mailman.one.net.au +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james at xxx.uk Wed Jul 5 02:35:53 2000 From: james at xxx.uk (James) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 02:35:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I am Jack's enraged forgetfulness. In-Reply-To: <20000704173010.31795.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: > is the boy on the 3, 6, 9 seconds of light EP stu m? >From what I heard, it was a random negative found somewhere that a member of the band decided to develop. But I have no idea where they found it, or who it was, or even where I found this out. Maybe I dreamt it all. -- James (james at chachacha.co.uk) http://www.chachacha.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nessamalone at xxx.net Wed Jul 5 04:06:15 2000 From: nessamalone at xxx.net (nessa) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 04:06:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: half 3 in the morning rambling Message-ID: <002101bfe62e$14327b40$29e6869f@p5l9l8> hi >They effectively banned b&s from the office, which the evil girl who works with me used to her advantage to play stupid >ricky martin. How can you be "latin" with a name like that? he is latin, but a little bird told me that they think his real name is not ricky martin. which means its probably ricky martinez. saccromyces martinez. one out of all 1,200 of you should be able to reveal his real name. Somebody MUST be able to. and I didn't really believe anyone from scotland was called hamish. I'm irish. I know two patricks. but that was a hilarious story. Recommendation: make sure any songs you have w/ people are not from your favourite bands. Make sure they're from his/hers. It makes you avoid said band afterwards and cringe when you hear it. >oh and hi jonathan new to the list. >questions to ask people (if anyone) who was at the dublin gig last year I was! I was! >if you have photo's of it please i am a desperate case from cork who just finished his exams.....a little help please i don't. i don't. ouch. Isn't Barcelona the home of Elefant Records, who had Quickspace on among some others? Barcelona is high on my 'places to visit list'. >Struan probably laughed at them >maniacally and lit them on fire while drinking absinthe in a jacuzzi with >nubile supermodels isn't one of the ideas behind supermodels that they aren't supposed to be nubile if nubile entails that you're supposed to look human first? or do I even know what the word means? No. I can define a lot of things and when pressed nubile isn't one of them. But I have an idea of what it means. isn't it funny when words do that to you? Its more likely he stacked them in his fanmail in and out tray w/ the in + out parts replaced by the words sane and not sane. Genevieve's went in the sane pile despite the next statement. >Perhaps it >was a secret obssesion.I used to have that with Candida Doyle when I was >younger.I spent far too much time drawing unflattering pictures of >her,always making sexual advances on the male members,and their little >speak-bubbles would always turn her down for their true love,Genevieve Nooo. You have to *love* your sisters in bands. They're doing it for you. Unless they're in something like Atomic Kitten *shivers like I've just seen a load of slugs crawling up my leg*, which they are then doing for the cocaine nights on the town w/ Ronan Keating and Mel C, and lots of $$$$'s. Candida is my second favourite member of Pulp to Jarvis, partially b/c I really love her rings. the Roskilde thing really pissed me off. I've read a few quotes about it being 'impossible to get up from the mud' and the stupid festival organiser trying to deflect blame from himself by saying that the Pet Shop Boys and Oasis had no respect by pulling out. Thats what I would have done. I would have closed down the fucking festival. How are people supposed to have a good time in an atmosphere like that? why on earth would they want to stay. People will probably disagree w/ me here, but I really think that festival organisers should do something more about the area in front of stages where if there would potentially be a lot of mud, like put down something plastic or wooden for people to stand on. Its a bit hard to enjoy something when you're being crushed as is pretty normal at any big concert but when you're also constantly having to stop yourself from sliding around. I love Liz Phair. I love 'Fuck and Run'. Except that I've just realised its the theme of Ally McBitch put to song. But a lot smarter and w/ superior tunes. Anyway, its a bit sarcastic. I still love it. bedtime. nessa XXXX +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Wed Jul 5 05:41:37 2000 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 21:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: a fist full of pepper for the private sector Message-ID: <20000705044137.7724.qmail@web122.yahoomail.com> so it's 12:30am and i ought to be in bed because i've got to work tomorrow, but i was cleaning out my "sent" folder and realized it's been a while since posting. and i guess it's like riding a bike: you never forget how to do it. but i worry all the same. i still hate "beyond the sunrise;" however, i have come to realize stuart's genius as "there's too much love" reveals itself as a fucking awesome song. oh this mail's going to get bounced back to me for using "fuck." well fuck that. dude, that So has to be stuart on the cover of 3...6...9. hmmm, young, barechested stuart. awwww yeah. today i whipped out the b&s videos and watched them. it was just that kind of a day. i just sit and giggle when LLPJane paints stuart. and when she unravels chris. it's darn cute. that museum story was hilarious. i wouldn't want to play b&s at work because you start to associate things with work. like how i live over the wine shop where i work, and it's like i can never escape. my home is where i work almost. eek. oh but a few weeks ago i was wearing a "stow" shirt at work and two people complimented it. and i was playing the magnetic fields (so i broke my own rule, okay?) and some boy was like, "great music." yay! i don't think we've heard from mummy honey in a while. darling, i miss you, and the other milkmaids. laurallew? where are thou?? good lord i miss being a student already. this 8-5 crap sucks. but at least i can buy more records now. tonight i was all patriotic. i normally don't like fireworks and blatant acks of "yee-ha! go, america!" but hell, i was invited to the river (charles, in boston) to see the light show and it was right purty. until on the way home some beer-guzzling frat boy coming from the opposite direction decided to reach out and feel me up as he walked by. damn it. oh my GOD this post is going nowhere fast. props and shout-outs to julie, cuz you rawk my world. and no i'm not hitting on you. well maybe. just maybe. and to kimmy, who is stuck in the office instead of the sunshine. fist full of pepper indeed. she even works for a LEGAL OFFICE. she's the legal grrrl. who loves you, baby? xoxo, ree ===== *********************************************************** "to me she was just marie." -mersault "hearts don't break/ the division is innate." -secret stars *********************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pleasesleep at xxx.com Wed Jul 5 06:18:15 2000 From: pleasesleep at xxx.com (every time you think you're talking, you're just moving your mouth.) Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 01:18:15 EDT Subject: Sinister: Message-ID: <20000705051815.273.qmail@hotmail.com> i rarely post to the list just because i don't have much to say regrading B & S, nor can i write in the same pretentious faux-British style that so many of my wannabe Anglophile American friends on here do. today is different. i just got a promo of the new album and i've listened to it severeal times and it just does not measure up. the stuart songs seem contrived (well, not all of them) and the others leave me empty. isobel is the only one really able to pull off any suprises here. i am just disappointed. i really think it is time for the band to reinvent themselves. they've done the same thing for four albums, and while it was great, and different avenues were thorougly explored, but with this album, B&S are traveling the same streets and passing the same stores, and personally i think it is starting to get boring. word out. dany. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From joeygalloro at xxx.com Wed Jul 5 07:29:04 2000 From: joeygalloro at xxx.com (Joe Galloro) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:29:04 -0500 Subject: Sinister: videos on icrunch? Message-ID: <002301bfe64a$50d70360$5cf20218@cdrrpd1.ia.home.com> hey, what is all this crap about there being B&S videos at icrunch.com, huh? Everytime I go there usually after I see a post full of it saying there are videos there. Well I cannot find them. If somebody would please give me the truth. I would like to see the videos please. Thanx for yer time. Joe Galloro. (Dylan is a Tool) hahahaha!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rtoad at xxx.net Wed Jul 5 08:55:13 2000 From: rtoad at xxx.net (Rob Lorenson) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 00:55:13 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Now I've Had A B & S Dream! In-Reply-To: <20000704210342.21112.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <200007050751.AAA26142@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net> So another 4th of July came and went. I had a BBQ at my friend's house, and then sat on Huntington Beach alone watching the fireworks displays all around me. The one over the Queen Mary was especially spectacular. And I saw a few old friends. Which is good, considering that every one crapped out on me yesterday and I thought I would spend this year the same as last year -- horribly alone, sitting on my porch watching my dog run around the fruit trees. I have lots of fruit trees. Anyways, I have now crossed over to the dark side, as I have had a B & S dream: I dreamt that for some reason the group came to my house, and instead of Stuart D. playing bass they had the bassplayer from the Housemartins, and was intrigued because I was listening to Stereolab and shouting the lyrics to the people who live below me -- I live on a mountain, in a big house by myself. And every time a stanza ended, I would pause the CD, play something on my piano, and then unpause the CD and go back to shouting lyrics. So they decided that they would play Roxy Music's "Mother of Pearl," and Stuart M. kept getting angry and yelling the "F" word because he couldn't get the lyrics right. So I played the song for him over and over until he learned the lyrics. So they played the song in my living room. And Stuart M. kept trying to sing in a Brian Ferry voice. Then they left, and I went back to shouting Stereolab lyrics. This time to the people who just moved in next door. I really have to stop eating stuff before I go to bed! :-P ======================================== "I only buy a book for the way it looks, then I put it on the shelf again. I can tell you what I'm thinking, But it never seems to do you good. It's beyond me what a girl can see, I'm only lucid when I'm writing songs." -- Belle and Sebastian http://home.earthlink.net/~rtoad WHAT WAS I THINKING? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordiet at xxx.com Wed Jul 5 09:31:23 2000 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: 5 Jul 2000 09:31:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: If Peter asks for Mr.Jordi, then he must appear, isnt it ? Message-ID: <20000705083123.22484.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From andy_flynnie at xxx.com Wed Jul 5 10:01:34 2000 From: andy_flynnie at xxx.com (Andy Flynn) Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 10:01:34 BST Subject: Sinister: if you ever want to sleep at night,don't marry a beautiful woman Message-ID: Genevieve said >So who has won the Isobel Campbell lookalikey contest yet? Can we have a >StuD (Yes I know he's with Looper) lookalikey contest then,to be fair? I'll >even arrange and pay for everything.Maybe we can double with Andy Flynn and >his deliciously rotund-behinded bride. Now hold on a minute! I wont have anyone having a pop at Isobel, I happen to think that naked, big bums are the best! I do like a girl with a bit of a belly....its so womanly! But anyway....no-body won the contest cos no-one applied to enter it....So I think you may have won by default So where are you taking me? Independence day you say....Hmmmmm! I wonder why Britain couldn't be arsed to make a serious play to bring the colonies back under control...Maybe we still have plans to.....So look out! Andy ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Jul 5 11:12:09 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:12:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ron. Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22DB3EC9@SERVER1> Here's my tuppenceworth for today. Hey, kids, I've set up a rival list where the only topic allowed is "is Electronic Renaissance crap?" at noitsnot at yesitis.com . Now don't you young scamps even think about trying to discuss anything with thought or reason behind it - we just want those yes/no answers! Okay, that was a bit nasty. Sorry about that. But I have a feeling our fairy godmother would want it said... She also wouldn't want anyone going on about football, but I'm going to anyway. Yes, I'm gutted that Euro 2000 is over, but after both extremes of gut-wrenching emotion over the last 4 days of the tournament (check my surname) I think it's a good thing as far as my heart and fingernails are concerned. Roll on August 12th and Tranmere Rovers... Yes, the boy on 3,6,9, Motorway is indeed Struan. Girls, you can see his tits. Boys, you can also see his tits, but for the hardcore winkie shot you have to be Owen Lowery. And the "love, love, love" song - isn't that Winter Wooksie (sp?)? You'd recognise Rhoda if you heard it because it's just about the most beautiful thing B&S have ever done. It's pretty naïve-sounding, very simple, folky and a-fucking-mazing. And it'll never be released. Some things suck. About writing to the band. Blimey, it's embarrassing to recall this, but before I even joined sinister I wrote them a...(oh god)...poem. It was about Helen Love, if I remember rightly. I don't know what I was thinking - that I wanted to give something to a band who had given so much to me. To show them how they made me feel. And yet I came across as a weirdo sadboy loser with no life and no discernible writing talent. So pretty spot on then. Enough or I'll be too embarrassed to send it, Markx ******************************************************************* HIT Entertainment PLC 5th Floor, Maple House 141-150 Tottenham Court Road LONDON, W1P 9LL Tel: +44 (20)7 554 2500 Fax: +44 (20)7 388 9321 The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 020 7224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Wed Jul 5 08:09:04 2000 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 19:09:04 +1200 Subject: Sinister: I wish I was at home with a big bag of potato chips ... mmmmm ... potato chips Message-ID: <005401bfe650$4ff9b400$146137d2@computer> righto, it's been a while, so goes everything I've been musing over in the last few days. ***ELECTRONIC RENAISANCE*** It's BRILLIANT. One of my all time favourite B&S songs. People slag it off a lot, and I don't really know why. Sure, it's deritive, but in all honesty I think prety much all of "Tigermilk" is. Not in a bad way ... (it's my favourite B&S album), but it is definately an album which wears its influences on it's sleeve, whereas I think that on subsequent releases B&S have developed a very unique sound of their own. With "Tigermilk" you have your Smiths songs ('The State I Am In' and 'I Could Be Dreaming'), your Velvet Underground song ('You're Just a Baby' - surely the most UNDERRATED B&S song ever!), Love ('Expectations', 'She's Losing It') and the English Pastoral Folk-meets Simon and Garfunkel songs ('Mary Jo, 'We Rules the School'). And of course the New Order song - 'Electronic Renaisance'. Dont get me wrong though ... I'm not saying "Tigermilk" is pastiche. Far from it ... I think that, as a debut album it is a clear statement of intent. It's Stuart Murdoch saying "when I say 'nobody writes them like they used to so it may as well be me' - the this is what I mean!". And it works a charm. That was a little incoherent, on hindsight. Probably nobody but fellow New Zealander Ian Halliday will appreciate this, but the Member of Parliment with the eyepatch here made a joke in parliament yesterday about Nation Party MPs engaging in beastiality. It was a beautiful moment for New Zealand politics ...... Cheers Grant. ***NICK DRAKE AND EBAY*** I use eBay quite a lot, grudgingly. I really hate the whole idea of "bidding" for something, but picked up the entire Lilac Time back cataloge, super cheap, as well as an original Postcard LP od Josef K's "The Only Fun in Town", so I can't really complain. However, I come from a western country, where haggling is frowned upon, and have been bought up believing that the price on the tag is what you pay, no arguments. Anyway, I was looking at Nick Drake stuff there the other day, and saw some guy selling a Nick Drake CD-R of demos for US$55.00. He then had at the bottom of his ad "I have a few of these, so if you don't win, e-mail me". ie. I can make as many copies as I like and flog them off at $55 a piece. Anyway, something in me snapped. I don't usually like complaining, but I thought "this is exploitation!" and complained to eBay, because selling CD-Rs is against their rules. So they removed the ad. So some bastard in England somewhere will be cursing me for robbing him of untold riches of the back of Nick Drake fans. Which brings me to my next point .... ***BELLE & SEBASTIAN LIVE AT THE SUPPER CLUB, NYC*** I see this advertised on eBay quite a bit. I was under the impression that Jeepster normally contacted Ebay and sellers of bootlg items and had them removed. But this CD always seems to slip through the net. Does that mean it is an "official bootlg" or some sort of promo or something? Secondly, does anyone know where I could get one from? Reading between the lines, it looks like most of the ones being auctioned on eBay are CD-Rs, and I really object to people making a profit from merely duplicting their CD collection. Thus, if I'm going to spend money I want a "real one". If anyone could help me in this quest, I'd appreciate an e-mail off list. Thanks ...... ***FREAKS AND GEEKS*** Have we talked about this??? (I'm assuming it hasn't ben on in the UK?) American fans ... do you not think this is the most brilliant, realsitic look at college life ever? It is the complate opposite of Dawson's Creek and their ilk. The teenagers are actually liek teenagers. They are not "beautiful people" and they do not tak like 30=somethings with 10 years of intense therapy behind them. And "issues" don't get solved in an hour. it is brilliant brilliant brilliant. But I believe it was canned after one seasn. Am I right? (phew) Long one tonight. Goodnight kids .... and if anyone can help me with the Supper Club thing, please get in touch. Lawrence Mikkelsen http://www.akn.quik.co.nz/mikelsen/aboutme +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DKerr at xxx.uk Wed Jul 5 12:44:49 2000 From: DKerr at xxx.uk (Kerr, David) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:44:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: What a laugh!! Message-ID: <6062D80787FBD3118E4100104B92F49E058219@MAILSERVER> Alrighty there little buddies Isn't life just peachy!?! "Yes. Yes it is." I hear you all say. It is now only two days before the Almighty Damn Fine Festival that is T in the Park. Our bus leaves 11am on Friday morning. WooHoo!! So if you see a little drunken 20 year old boy/man (haven't really made up my mind yet) lying on the grass with his saggy man breasts in full view, covered in his own piss and vomit on the camp site on Friday, then come and say "Hello there, you must be Davie" because it will more than likely be me. Has anyone arranged for a meet up at T in the Park? Really looking forward to seeing Looper. I gave one of my colleagues a loan of the 'Up A Tree' album and it is safe to say he was impressed. In fact he was so impressed he went to see them when they played at King Tuts in Glasgow. I missed that show. Aahhh Bollocks!! I don't know if this can be classified as content but here goes........... I finally got my B&S EPs back last night after about two months. Oh how I missed them!! I had one of the greatest weekends I have ever had, not last weekend but the weekend before, in Glasgow. Not very often I leave my home town and visit the big smoke. You'll find out why below. I was actually going shopping for shirts, trousers, etc but I ended up getting a little too drunk to remember what it was I wanted to buy. We stayed in the pub for a few hours then ended up near George square where there was an open air gig called 'Summer in the City'. By the time I got there I was almost blind but that didn't stop me having a few more drinks at a nearby pub. As they day went by we decided to phone another friend and tell him to meet up with us. So there are now three of us terrorising the streets of Glasgow. Now comes the highlight of the day. One of my friends needed to go and shake hands with the mayor (take a piss) so he decided to stop in at a port-a-loo. Big Mistake!! Just for the fun of it I decided to tip it over while he was shaking his little tinkle trying to get rid of any excess piss. BANG!!!!!! The whole port-a-loo fell on its back. My friend and I ran like the wind down the street with a mad guy chasing behind us. What a laugh! There are probably a few of you out there saying "That was a pretty shitty thing to do." And I must say that I agree. But it was the funniest thing I have seen in a long time. You just have to imagine it. Think of one of your friends inside one of these things realising that you are outside about to tip it over. Imagine the expression on their face when it falls over and all the piss and shit is hitting them in the face and getting between their teeth. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha The second highlight of the day, well not for me anyway, was when I almost broke my ankle trying to chase a pigeon. Don't ask me why I was chasing a pigeon because I have no idea. All I know is that it caused me a considerable amount of pain. Aahhhhhhhhhhhh Alcohol, what a great invention. Anyhoo................ I'll be off now. Sorry there wasn't anything interesting in this mail. But remember I do recommend tipping over a port-a-loo with one of your friends inside it. You won't laugh as hard for a long time afterwards. Believe me, I know!! Thanks for reading people Davie "Quite an evil chap" Kerr +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pleasesleep at xxx.com Wed Jul 5 13:50:19 2000 From: pleasesleep at xxx.com (every time you think you're talking, you're just moving your mouth.) Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 08:50:19 EDT Subject: Sinister: Message-ID: <20000705125019.62307.qmail@hotmail.com> oh rockstar, i am well equipped with a sense of humor and a life, and do use both quite a lot, but i try to not to deny that i am actually from the us and act as myself. take care, dany. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Wed Jul 5 14:34:44 2000 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:34:44 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: fold your wings chick you fly like a pheasant Message-ID: and then, as if by magic..... hello old chums and new folk who are wondering who the hell I am. Just back in stirling for a few days so I decided to use the uni computers to say hi. just a few messages before this one that Cassarotto said "for the hardcore winkie shot you have to be Owen Lowery." so it's nice to know that I haven't been completely forgotten even if the incident took place over a year ago I would however like to take this opportunity to remind Mark that I did not look at Stuarts winkie I merely had the chance to do so. I have already appologised to the Struan lovers on the list for this failure. anyway...time to prattle on about the new album for a bit it's really rather good especially I fought in a war and I quite like family tree as well. but it's all good really. and available on minidisc too I was nearly tempted but in the end I just got the CD and then copied it to MD in case I need to listen to it on the move. for some reason most of my minidiscs are just copies of stuff I have on CD, silly me, when I bought it all I planned to do was borrow cd's from friends and copy those (oooh I am a naughty boy). right that's it from me. be warned though I may pop in from time to time it's one of my wizardly powers you know. love and laughs owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Wed Jul 5 14:42:39 2000 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:42:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Poetry and girls showering Message-ID: Hello everyone, Mark C talked earlier about poetry and stuff and I felt inspired. Like if I had parachuted down on top of a church, but not quite as painful. So I couldn't help but write an ode to the man. So here it is... Mark Casarotto thinks he's Italian, Mark Casarotto thinks he's hung like a stallion, Mark Casarotto plays football as well, As a big bottom'd Isobel, Mark Casarotto is a camp as a Scout jamboree, It's quite funny that his mummy agrees, Mark Casarotto DJ's and everyone listens, He once went to Boyzone auditions, But only to check out the boys, And tempt the weak willed ones home with puppies and toys, Mark Casarotto is a chap and a half, He knows I'm only having a laugh There is about 684 lines of this but it gets a lost when I start rhyming cereal / immaterial, sibylline / porcupine, and syphillis / big gay streak of piss. But if anyone wants to read the whole thing it's being published by Penguin (obviously). Anyway why doesn't anyone talk about Richard Davies on this list? Probably because he was a sad pervert at my school who found out you can get into the gap between the ceiling and roof at our school through the sound room for the stage. And he used to go into this unknown floor and go and see the girls showering. Though this is part of any American college movie since Porky's this actually happened in suburban London too. He once offered to take me there and I did think OK it's an adolescent boy's dream. So off I went up the ceiling, and no I didn't get lost and end up by the boy's showers, instead I turned back and said I couldn't do this. I would like to think it was because I had a sense of morality from an early age, but it was probably more to do with the fact that I was a clumbsy oaf and knew I'd fall through the ceiling. Mentally scaring a showerfull of teenage girls for life... My god what am I talking about and why am I drooling on my keyboard? Anyway I told the biggest mouthed girl in our year about the boy Davies, I think her name may of been Sonia who was originally from Liverpool, and though know one really believed it he did get an understandable rep for being a dirty perv. What has all this to do with Belle & Sebastian? I haven't go a clue but at least I've mentioned them now. Ahh luscious strings and keyboards add a new depth don't they? Te ra, Martin "really should get out more" Robinson P.S During the above ramblings the name's have been kept the same to accuse the guily. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From liisa00 at xxx.fi Wed Jul 5 17:41:20 2000 From: liisa00 at xxx.fi (Liisa Kallio) Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 17:41:20 EET DST Subject: Sinister: ill name you ti-ti-uu Message-ID: hello. last sunday i went to this little jazz happening we�ve got here.i was planning to see some italian trumpetist,but i came there too late and i missed him.but best was yet to come.i got in free because of my good looks and charm, no they just had stopped selling tickets cos the last act of the evening was on.it was this brass band from new orleans (they mix brass music with modern jazz). it was brilliant, i couldn�t stand still,i just had to dance, which is a bit strange cos i hadn�t had alcohol or any illegal drugs.there was this boy who danced like a devil.i haven�t met anyone who can wiggle his hips the way that boy did.it was magic.i danced the whole night. now i got to rush home and go to sauna,and listen to frank zappa. me xx my fave song at the moment: gun club �st. john�s divine� from their �divinity-ep� the boy sings about boozing,and practising voodoo in your bedroom.anytime. �modern reneissance� is gorgeous. ---- Soitto��net ja ikonit matkapuhelimeen! http://www.iobox.fi/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vrider at xxx.net Wed Jul 5 17:21:43 2000 From: vrider at xxx.net (Vicki Rider) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:21:43 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Mmmm! Tastes of chicken Message-ID: <002401bfe69d$3502e7a0$abd6e13f@compaq> Hi! In response to Toby's plea: "Louder Than Bombs", definitely. More songs off the singles! I just got back from a vacation (I had a nice time, thank you), and while I was perusing the local "alternative" newspaper ("The Reader", I think it's called, for the San Diego/North County area), came across a review of FYH: *** An eight-man ensemble from Glasgow, Belle & Sebastian plays pop music that's unabashedly fey. Sprinkled with purring violins, cellos and flutes, "Fold Your Hands Child", the band's fourth album, stays true to the same light, pop formula that has made the group cherished among indie-rock fans who often prefer louder and angrier music. [Q'ua??] The reason the band can get away with playing such gentle harmonies is singer-guitarist Stuart Murdoch. The principal songwriter, Murdoch, much like the Smiths' Morrissey, inflects his songs with a subtle sense of sorrow and loss. Whether he's pining over lost friendships in "I Fought In A War" or recounting a childhood rape in "The Chalet Lines", he finds poetic ways of expressing sentiments that, in other hands, would come off as melodramatic. Even the other members of the group, who write a handful of songs on "Fold Your Hands Child", can't match his great execution. anywhoo..................... Lawrence said a while back: >Anyone ever sent stuff to members of the band? Did they reply? I actually did, about a year ago. I sent them a letter saying how much I loved their music, how it dragged me out the of the pits of Spring despair where you hate everything and made me feel great (or something like that). I also asked who was on the cover of Arap Strap (Hey, I was a new fan; and it was (and is) one of my all-time favorite covers). I was very surprised when about a month later I got a small, handwritten envelope in purple calligraphy ink from the UK. Inside was a letter on a piece of notepaper written in smallish handwriting saying that the boy on the cover is "my friend and bandmate, Chris Geddes" then talking about how the photo came to be during the filming of the "Is It Wicked Not To Care?" video, and that "I'm glad you don't hate everything anymore". Signed---> Stuart Murdoch!!!!!! I nearly passed out then felt absolutely great for about a month. As sort of a thanks I sent them a picture I had picked up in an antique store of a country-western looking singer in a recording studio, with something written over the picture (I can't remember what, it called the singer the "Cowboy of Verseille" or something like that). I hopefully imagined when they got it they pasted it up on a fridge or something and that they're enjoying it. Re: The Flaming Lips--I saw them on a while back with Looper. They were, to borrow a classmate's phrase, "the shit". [I saw them at Nita's Hideaway in Tempe. Any fellow sinisterines there?] Looper was excellent (there Stuey D was!! a foot away!!); but by the time the Lips came on my feet were falling asleep and I was cold. But with a crash of a gong my senses came back to me, and I enjoyed one of the most pleasant 2 hour chunks of time. And when I came home I was coooooovered in confetti. Writing this post with the "Woodstock" documentary on tv in the background. My favorite part is Country Joe's Vietnam singalong song: "One, two, three, What're we fightin' for? Don't ask me I don't give a damn, let's stop this Viet-nam! Five, six, seven, Open up the pearly gates, Ain't got time to wonder why-- Whoopee! we're all gonna die!!" Happy Fourth everybody Rachel W. :-) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jamesmcsuperman at xxx.com Wed Jul 5 06:45:14 2000 From: jamesmcsuperman at xxx.com (Harry) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:45:14 +1200 Subject: Sinister: If you ever did anything truly altruistic... Message-ID: <20000705165656.75406.qmail@hotmail.com> I'm not commenting on list content here. Oh no. I do, however, have a problem with people pressing Reply to a sinister-related mail, and not checking they remove Sinister from the "To:" field. I get enough mail as it is. I haven't posted for a while, I've been a bit out of sorts. During "Charmed" on UK terrestrial porn channel 5, the other week, I was bored, and decided to see if I still had any creative vapour left in my mental void. I took my mum's laptop computer into my bedroom, and gave myself the duration of the program to get something cogent down. http://www.moriendi.webprovider.com/stow.htm is my result, and I'd appreciate any comments on it. It's not much to work on, but I'm just starting. See, my theory is that most young contemporary fiction authors go through a series of high-concept novels before they develop a skill for character development, and I don't want to bore the world with another novel that asks a timeless question like "what would I do, were I invisible, and blessed with large hands?" Chalet Lines made my toes curl, by the way. I downloaded the mp3, as the releasedate-OKtobuybymyownneuroticreckoning period has not yet passed. It's not the content though, it's just a bit foppish. I can't for the life of me understand why anyone should care what anyone thinks of them. Good eve. Harry +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elenita99 at xxx.com Wed Jul 5 19:18:38 2000 From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita99) Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 19:18:38 CEST Subject: Sinister: London picnic, dreams and a complain Message-ID: <20000705171838.70960.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello little listees, I hope you are all well and having nice holidays if you're lucky enough to be on holidays *London Picnic* First of all there's a map in case you get lost between the tube and the hill http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?X=528250&Y=183750&zoom=1 After receiving some desperate emails ("how do i get there?") I've found out a nice meeting-point with the help of some fellows listees, all this coming from a good idea: why don't we meet in a pub? So here we go, a pub. When going out of Camden Town tube station, on the left exit look for Kentish Town Road, where is a big pub called "the world's end". Just between this road and the station, in a corner, is a little nice pub called "Halfway House". That's the one. So I'll be in here (hopefully not alone) let's say between 1pm and 1.30pm, so you are all very welcome to join us in here, and after having a nice pint we can all go together up the hill, and do picnic things as stated in my last post. Please don't hesitate to email before the 15th if you've got any doubt, please don't hesitate to come, to take some friends with you, to dance all night with Carsmile, etc...That'll be a nice picnic, I promise :) Girlies, get ready to bet the boys at football, you are of course allowed to use any subversive manners in order to win, like hot pants and tiny t-shirt, etc... In case you're: late / lost / already too drunk to climb up the hill, you can reach me on 07787 121712, and I'll try to: comfort you / pick you up somewhere / send you a nice boy to carry you up. In case you can't stand awful French accent and people swallowing the "h" in "halfway house" or in case you can't reach me, Mr Martin Robinson himself will be please to answer your queries (not as nicely as I would though) on 07968 369985 Well I think that is it for the picnic... *Real and Effective Content* I will add some content to this post though, so if you were reading it only for the picnic that's over! I had a sort of B&S related-dream last week and it was so weird I thought I'd told you. I was at my place with some of my friends, and we were apparently working on a music-hall based on B&S songs. I was doing something on "judy and the dream..." and some other ones on other songs, so we were her jumping and dancing and singing and working on our show, and then my friend Kathryn decided the final would be on "legal man" so we were all doing "paaaaa pa pa paaaaa pa pa paaaaaa" in glittering costumes. Argh. That was a bit scary I admit. Would you imagine a music-hall with B&S songs as a background? Anyway, I guess that's all for today... I must though, before leaving you in peace, scream my despair about that awful weather on London, rain and cold in July: ARGH. Have a good week all 1400 of you Elena xx ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cellophanesky at xxx.com Wed Jul 5 18:12:56 2000 From: cellophanesky at xxx.com (Brian Pennington) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:12:56 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Sleeves and Acoustic Renaissances Message-ID: Hello, Man, sometimes reading all these letters can be such a chore, but the reason I still bother is because I usually find some nice ones in there. So I've got to respond to some of them, just got to... Mark Cassarto said: (some things dissing discussion of Electronic Renaissance and then...) >Okay, that was a bit nasty. Sorry about that. But I have a feeling our fairy >godmother would want it said... See, I don't understand that logic. I mean, we're discussing the band whom this mailing list is about, aren't we? I'd prefer that anyday to "Today I took my car to the carwash. There was a scruffy man with a squeegee there. Afterwards I did some grocery shopping and got tomatoes. Bye." Well, I suppose just posting and saying you hate a song or love a song isn't such a good idea, but describing why, that's another thing entirely. Er, sorry, discussing the list on the list. But I didn't start it! *whine* and David White wrote: >Sorry but I think [Electronic Renaissance] is crap, arguably the >worst B&S track. Well maybe that's a bit harsh, it's just stands out >like a beacon on the otherwise faultless Tigermilk. Perhaps on >another album by another band it would be OK but on Tigermilk it >just sounds shit. It seems that Electronic Renaissance is a love/hate phenomenon among B&S fans. The idea of it sullying the magic of Tigermilk is pretty amusing though ;) The best song on B&S' worst album if you ask me. I think Family Tree is the worst Belle & Sebastian track I've heard...well...tied with Chickfactor, probably. Then Lawrence Mikkelson had some fascinating comments on Tigermilk which I agree with thoroughly. For those who missed it, to paraphrase, he pointed out that Tigermilk wears influences very obviously, and pointed out some examples. The new album is so much more atypical than Tigermilk. Tigermilk makes me think of a good album by any of the many bands I like whose influences I also like. From Sinister on I think they sound like their own band. Must go soon, but I wanted to say something that wasn't just an observation on another's post. I've been thinking on album covers of late. Specifically how to do one for myself. I really like the Smiths/Sarah Records/B&S/too many other people to mention duotone photograph sleeve. Somehow, though, I feel the need to put a twist on it...you know? The fine line between paying homage and blindly copying is a tricky one indeed. I think B&S do a fine job of walking it. My favorite sleeve is probably Lazy Line Painter Jane. The original, I mean, although the new full-color EPs comp Lazy Line Painter Jane sleeve is gorgeous also. Hm, well I have more to say but I must run. Bye now -- Brian Pennington, aka Mick McMick | cellophanesky at mac.com | ICQ# 39021436 Sandcastle Records: the Cellophane Sky: "Better a tear of truth than smiling lies." - Duncan Browne +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From showmemagic at xxx.com Wed Jul 5 21:21:46 2000 From: showmemagic at xxx.com (Joey .) Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 20:21:46 GMT Subject: Sinister: B&S content at the end... It is there, I promise!! :) Message-ID: <20000705202146.69690.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello everyone :) I have a bit of rambling to do firstly,but there is some very important B&S content atthe end, I promise, so just bare with me!! :) Or scroll... How are you all?? I hope you are all well. :) I am. Kind of. On Monday I went home sick from work at lunch time. And haven't been back since. The thought of it makes me sad. I used to love that job, now all I have is the disire to spend "the summer wasting" [Jes doesn't know how lucky she/he is!! ;)]. I suppose I better go in tommorow. I went to our wonderfull shopping centre today [CMK...Central Milton Keynes, that is. At least we have amusing modern art... Concrete cows can never fail to please. Maybe I should of said a'moo'sing... Sorry, that was crap. It made me smile though. Hahahaha!! :)] Well... I got a nice "Mr Bump" bag, and some cheap CD's from HMV. And some shoes. These are cool. Little black ones. I needed some shoe shoe's rather than pumps. The discription on the box was "Ballet Pumps" which I thought was a nice discription. I'd like to see a balletrina dance in these though. That would be almost as funny as going to Mouches sports day. But not quite ;) ANYWAY. I discovered from this shopping trip that a) There is obviously a law which I have not been informed about which prohibits people from buying shoes whilst wearing flares. Every single shoe shop they looked at me funny [as in more strangly than usual] b) NEVER EVER EVER go shoping whilst pulling a sicky. i saw my bosses son at the cash point and i had no way of escaping. So i had to duck and hide behind this big temporary wall ie in building site untill he was gone. Eeeeeeeeeek!! So... Shall I quit work untill I go back to college?? I dunno what to doooooooooooooo :( ************************************************************************ BELLE AND SEBASTIAN CONTENT.... ************************************************************************ I would look back in the archives... But I haven't because they scare me. I looked before but found nothing. There is sooooooooo many messages. i just get lost and can't escape and end up haveing to turn my computer off :( So: I don't know the date of the recording, but I guess it must be before Bowlie. I have got this recording of B&S on the evening session tour bus. They play a song called "Wrong Love" which sound suspiciously like "The Wrong Girl". IT IS THE WRONG GIRL!!! But with different lyrics. But it is the same song!! Does anyone know nything about why it was changed?? I like "wrong love" more. Theres this really cool line... It goes (in really deep voice) "I'm not what I could be, I need SOME LOVING, I went looking and I FOUND SOME, the wrong LOVE........." blar blar all the same except replace the word Girl with Love :)))) You see, you have to sing this in "The wrong girl" tune. And thoses bits are in capitals for no other reason than to highlight the words which are different. Anyway... Anyone got and info??? Hehehe... :) This recording must of been before Bowlie as it was played as "The Wrong Girl" there. Thanks for listening if you have managed to read this far! Oh... And speaking of Bowlie, someone [sorry,can't remember who,sorry :(] was asking what song they played which said "Love" in it a lot. Was it Winter Wooskie? That says love quite alot and they played that... :) Big hugs to all... Oh and a massive hug to poorly Geoff who has been in the wars a bit lately... What a wally!! ;) Lot's of Love, Jo x ________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hhumble at xxx.edu Wed Jul 5 21:20:26 2000 From: hhumble at xxx.edu (Heather Humble) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I think I'm on a horse with no name Message-ID: Hello all- I just got back to the US a couple days ago from my six month stay in England (previously posting from hah102 at york.ac.uk, flaking out on the glasto meet up, etc). Anyway, I'm staying with my parents for a month here in humid Richmond, VA. And I don't know anyone here. Expect for my parents. And my cat. And sometimes my kitty's conversation lacks a certain sparkle. So if there are any listees in the area I would lovelovelove for us to have a picnic, meet for a drink/coffee/whatever. Yes. Please email me privately, etc. Okay, to try to fit in B&S somehow... my journey was almost completely B&S free, except for on the flight from JFK to here in the tiny propeller plane in which I was trying to keep calm by pretending I was a modernist jetsetting my way to Las Vegas, or some colonial-type on my way to the depths of the jungle. But it didn't work. So I read New York Magazine, in which a certain Jane Pratt (of Jane magazine) said that one of her "essentials for the beach" this summer was a copy of FYHC. yay. and then later today as I was taking my broken suitcase to the airport to be fixed, I was playing IYFS in the car and as I was parking there was a lovely boy dressed in quite a colonial sort of fashion who I guess heard the music and smiled and said hello. that is all. heather http://www.reed.edu/~hhumble +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dontlookatmyaddressnaughty at xxx.com Thu Jul 6 03:51:00 2000 From: dontlookatmyaddressnaughty at xxx.com ( ) Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 03:51:00 ICT Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #87 Message-ID: <20000705205100.77448.qmail@hotmail.com> hi the man who lived here before, he collected stones. in the garden. or more accurately, the vegatable patch. the dead vegetable patch. as when said man dies, his garden dies with him. only to be re-born. brings me to tree. weeping willow tree likes water. ex-river spot this said weeping willow chose. quite intelligentely. climbing. ive always loved climbing. the willow taught me to climb. i learnt by climbing the tree. i learnt now to climb by falling off and breaking my limbs. my limbs mended. eventually, many broken, re-broken, mended limbs later - i could climb. another huge garden next door had a rock the children there got ropes and fancy metallic shiny purple fuckits or something, chalk bags, insignia of wild tribesmen etcetera. coloured purple and other colour ropes. more ropes. the harness and things. what they and their parents didnt realise was/is that. these kids next door couldnt learn to climb whilst having �400s of purple and yellow climbing gear. they got to the top alright. i did much later. they couldnt really climb. i dreamt about them replacing their bodies with climbing machines instead. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com Wed Jul 5 22:21:58 2000 From: Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com (Paul Rudolph) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:21:58 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Dilated Peoples Message-ID: <0056750020597290000002L502*@MHS> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From FakingUpARampage at xxx.com Thu Jul 6 04:47:35 2000 From: FakingUpARampage at xxx.com (FakingUpARampage at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:47:35 EDT Subject: Sinister: and flash gordon was there... Message-ID: <6.8485af9.26955b57@aol.com> dear sinister sisters and brothers... cleaning out my outgoing mail folder is always nice. i have mail in there that i started to respond to since april. lets start, shall we? April: Jen said: << And isn't Giles twee as anything? >> and Willow used to kinda be... and Buffy obsessions are healthy, dont worry. Todd quoted from his school's newspaper saying: << Fans on the band's e-mail listserv have been known to post messages talking about how their days are going. Wuss factor number four. >> is that us? actually, my day went quite well, thankyou. it was the last day of school before a well deserved 2 week vacation... yippee! tho i wasnt given back my copy of tigermilk, so heads shall roll. i was thinking about it... just now really. we're not wusses. we're special. :) Paul condescended: << "why didn't you do the bloody essays when you were given them. It would have saved a hell of a lot of stress......." >> but whats the fun in it? c'mon, isnt everyone fond of hair pulling all nighters? when you've drunk too many cups of coffee and the caffine makes so wired that your eyes are involuntarily shaking? or you've been working at a computer so long that if you look away the lack of scrolling might make your brain explode? and all that music thats been playing the background has turned into mush, and you hear the lyrics telling you about elephants that are standing behind you getting ready to steal your peanuts... but then you realize that you dont have any peanuts, so in the middle of writing your paper you have to have another cup of coffee and run to the store to buy peanuts to appease the elephants that the music told you were there, but when you look behind you and under your bed they seem to have dissapeared. and then you realize that they are gone because your cat has just climbed on your computer and typed things and what was the beep? ::gasp:: your cat just deleted the paper that you've been working on for hours, and for some reason the caffine kept you from saving the paper before going to the store.... so you throw the peanuts (which are in a can, by the way), breaking the window, so the house alarm goes off and the elephant that you were sure wasnt there charges to go get the peanuts, stepping on your foot. so you find yourself without a paper or peanuts, with an elephant running about your front yard, and a swarm of police asking you what happened while you hold your aching foot. then you remember, you dont have a cat. luckily _I_ dont have a paper to do.... ok. that was april. i might have been on something when i wrote that little rant, but honestly.. it was april, how am i supposed to remember? actually, i can assure you that i wasnt on anything, as i am never on anything. now.. um.. this is from yesterday: Genevieve said > I love Electronic Renaissance.Is it really viewed as the stinker of > Tigermilk? I get a thrill at the echo-y voice sound effect part, "you'll be > known as the boy who's always working..working..working..." Struan sounded > like such a little waif and now listen to the strength of those vocal > chords.Hot damn,momma! > oooooh!! thats the way i always feel when TIJAMRS picks up... i would purr, if i knew how to type it. i have to apologize for my subject my last post. you see.. it started off as simply the inscription from the album, as that was what my eyes fell on when i was typing it. then i said... no no no .. someone would have used it already. so then it changed to 'please do not let them make me a monkey butter sandwich"... but i'm a dork, and forgot to write sandwich. americans -- happy 'we fought the law and the law didnt win' day... i dont get to go see the fireworks.. and i'm very upset about this. why you ask? because they are bright and go boom and its like a garden in the sky. did anyone ever post the spin review of the new album of which i have no name for because i'm just not sure what to use now -- fishyclap or FYH or FYHCYWLAP? i'm not, as i dont have it.. but it was a lovely review, giving them an 8 out of 10. i think they might have even refered to beyond the sunrise as good. i for one am kinda indifferent on it. i dont dislike it. but i dont like it either. it confuses me. so.. yes... i've listened to my tape of bowlie a bunch of times.. and how much do i adore winter wooskie? (mucho thanks to everyone who wrote to tell me what song is was, by and by the way... you all are lovely)... ok.. i adore it so much.. and of course, i dont have it. so, if anyone in jersey sees a record store that has copies of it and you already have it.. please tell me. then i'll be a very happy bunny. ya know what i've noticed? how much you all have influenced my writing/speaking style. as above, i refered to you guys as lovely... i refer to many people as lovely too... but, before i joined sinister i never did. thats just the main thing that came to mind now... but its true. and odd. so.. yay? another blatant request -- anyone with an mp3 of rhoda who wants to send it to me? or put it on an idrive or an x drive for me to get? Please?! as, i still havent heard it :( (my icq number is 43539844 if you would like to send it via there)... and i of course would be eternally greatful for this. lawerence - yup, freaks and geeks is taken off. thats what the tvguide channel told me anyway. isnt it sad? so... yes.. summer before senior year of high school.. i have to start looking for colleges. i'm scared. very scared. i have no idea where to start, and i have no idea where to look, and i have no idea what to do. any suggestions? please? i'm asking for quite alot this post. i think i feel bad. :( and i'm almost sure that tomorrow morning i'll find a nice little note from honey telling me to shut the hell up. i love you honey. i love you everyone else. :) i am going to be off now... so.. good night dear ones... xoxox Jes +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From magdaboom at xxx.com Thu Jul 6 09:57:20 2000 From: magdaboom at xxx.com (Magda Boom) Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 01:57:20 -0700 Subject: Sinister: be a darling, won't you. Message-ID: Hello there, after a brief flurry of two posts in as many days, I appear to have slipped a little. But fear not! My named is not punctuated with a Boom for nothing! Im still stuck in Pop Central, so no Belle and Sebastian for me. I say stuck, its lovely being stuck in pop central. Speaking of which: that girl said: >so you throw the peanuts (which are in a can, by the way), breaking the window, In a mad rage last week I threw my copy of Tigermilk across the room aiming it right at the opposite wall, so it made a lovely crack! sound and the CD case broke apart. I was looking for sixties soul and all I could see was Belle and Sebastian Cd after Belle and Sebastian. I dont want Legal Man! I want Hes a Rebel!. You dont need to fall in love when youve got Sixties Girl Groups. And Sylvie by Saint Etienne. then she said: >but whats the fun in it? c'mon, isnt everyone fond of hair pulling all nighters? when >you've drunk too many cups of coffee and the caffeine makes so wired that your eyes >are involuntarily shaking? Why yes, especially the night before an exam. Facts flying here there and everywhere, illegible handwriting, its fantastic, isnt it! And when you eventually collapse into tears, theres always lots of ugly boys at www.boycrazy.com to keep you company. I never realised that American people were actually trying to sound British, they must do it much better we do the other way round, throwing in a duh or a whatever or a gee or a bomb where we choose. Magdas Tip of the week: When youre linked up to the Internet at 2am, uploading photographs onto the world wide interweb - Remember, the room youre in has a funny lock, and if you close the door from the outside, it will lock, and you wont be able to get back in. That way you might avoid having to climb onto a wobbling crate on top of a step ladder in your pyjamas, rain pouring down, and leaping onto a roof covered with moss and cigarette ends with a view to clambering through the window. It will make your Lara Croft fixation seem all the more real, mind. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.net Thu Jul 6 11:34:12 2000 From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:34:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: b&s newsy stuff - all content! Message-ID: <000401bfe737$4ada47e0$a8eea8c2@pricelessoem> hello, just popping my head up as i've had questions about the following, so hope this helps you all ... *sheet music* there will be a book available by the end of this month containing all the sheet music for 'fold your hands child, you walk like a peasant' which you can order online from www.musicsales.com for the rest of the albums, there will be a book available around the end of the year with the tabs + chords for 'tigermilk', 'if you're feeeling sinister' and 'the boy with the arab strap' and the first three ep's 'dog on wheels', 'lazy line painter jane' and '3..6..9 seconds of light' again this will be available from music sales. in the uk, i think most big hmv/virgin/tower shops which have sheet music sections will stock the books as well as some musical instrument/sheet music shops. *gigs* not until 2001 ... sorry. *shameless plugs* you probably remember me banging on about this lot last year + mr david moore from chelmsford mentioned them a week or so ago too .. this is from other music's (n.y. record shop) weekly mailout: Featured New Releases: SODASTREAM "Looks Like A Russian" (Tugboat, UK) CD $18.99 RealAudio: http://userweb.interactive.net/~tomc/sodastre.ram RealAudio: http://userweb.interactive.net/~tomc/2sodastr.ram After two melodic, moving EPs, the Australian duo Sodastream present their first full album. Karl Smith's lilting vocals are highly mannered and phrased, Pete Cohen's nearly subsonic bowed bass skitters and scrapes the bottom of their well of loneliness, laying an inconsistent foundation to their precise arrangements of trumpet, acoustic guitar, and barely any drums. To say that it (already) appeals to the myriad of Belle and Sebastian fans doesn't go too far-- theirs is a similar sort of delicacy that both B&S (some of whom assisted on one of Sodastream's EPs) and the more finely-grained, less flailing of the late '80s Flying Nun groups (Robert Scott's work in particular) have or had. At the same time, the influence of Nick Drake, more pervasive than ever, permeates at least the singing style, if not the forthright sensitivity (Sodastream hold their cards closer to their chest): though their hands aren't open, nor are they scarred. There's a deja-vu here, though: they've wri! ! ! tten melodies you somehow already know. Even with too many Jesus references, it's a great album. [RE] http://www.othermusic.com/perl-bin/OM/CD_Add_To_Cart.cgi?sku=501861543182&refer_url=email i'm off back to the depths of the merchandise cavern again ... could matthew12907 pls mail me asap. cheers, katrina. banchory merchandising ltd. e-mail: shop at banchory.net po box 25074 glasgow g2 6yl scotland http://www.banchory.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Thu Jul 6 13:08:52 2000 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (the angel blackwell) Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 08:08:52 EDT Subject: Sinister: don't shoot the teacher Message-ID: <20000706120852.19154.qmail@hotmail.com> okay, so the news around here is going really wierd. Michael Jackson as Edgar Allan Poe...WHAT!?! you knighted james bond the other day as well it seems...bond, sir james bond, well no one is gonna remember him for his other crap performances are they??? then there was that poor biathelete that got mauled by a bear in the NWT...i want to make a joke about canadian stereotypes, but i feel bad for the poor girl... is it bad to hit on your boss' son after he starts working for you...heehee...but he's so cute, and so little... so common guys, you reviews of FISHYCLAP are starting to dwindle...i haven't listened to my copy for a week, i lent it to a friend of mine...well i'd had his labradford cd for way too long... i keep looking at the jeepster site hoping they're gonna post their tour dates...i know they're not gonna come here...lil'isobel was hospitalized the last time she tried to come to toronto... i know she won't be too keen on coming here... i learnt a valuable lesson on friday night...always watch your drink when you're in a club my dear sinisterines...ghb doesn't mix well with anything, and it made this boy do less than angelic things before losing all control of his body... hmmm...back to my morning injection of trance and caffeine...(B&S have been banned from my workplace as well, senior vice president heard "shitty wage...") then angel blackwell i come into work and realize the working day is almost done in the uk...not fair... i need to moisterize and reapply... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Jul 6 13:54:03 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:54:03 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Sepp Blather Message-ID: <000901bfe749$66dc3680$e4a8243e@itjfvkli> Consider this: LEGAL MAN by B&S and THE CUTTER by Echo and the Bunnymen. So near, yet so far. So alike, yet so dissimilar. It's remarkable. You see what I mean about brain disease? It's been quite a long time since anyone accused their fellow Americans of pretending to be British. On that occasion we established that some of us actually *are* faux-British. Not me though, I'm from Pasadena County in Maryland, Virginia. I demand a parliamentary children's drinking match! Poor Master Blair! Everyone's saying he gave a false name and address, but the poor little cherub probably couldn't remember who he was, let alone where he lived. I bet Northy spiked his drink. Apologies for giving the impression that all clubs in Barcelona are racist, I'm sure that isn't the case. It's a long story, involving undercover Al Jolson journalists, but basically it's just the posh ones. And they claim to have sorted it out now. I'm sure there are some very nice clubs. I can feel a list content content bout coming on. Can I just say how much I enjoyed the list when the new album came out and everyone was giving their opinions of it, discussing things, agreeing and disagreeing about this that or the other. But summer's lease is all too short, and the urge to spout crap is all-conquering. How about some tennis news? Is there anyone called Honey on this list? I bought a CD called "Where the Girls Are (in the showers by the sounds of things) Vol 3" which features a track by Honey and the Bees. More importantly, there's a full page photo of them too. Which one's Honey? I think it's the one on the right. Hello to Martin Amis, who's been lurking on the list if his new book is anything to go by. He's got a big long bit about Saint Lucy, and this: "And throughout my childhood in Swansea I had a helpless passion for the blood-red doubledeckers, and I would ride them, with no destination in mind, for hour after hour and day after day." How's about that then? Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From freezebum at xxx.com Thu Jul 6 13:52:56 2000 From: freezebum at xxx.com (yellow bananas) Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 12:52:56 GMT Subject: Sinister: fess up all you singaporeans!! among other things. Message-ID: <20000706125256.46740.qmail@hotmail.com> hello fellow villagers. 1. i just went to the list website and i realised that there are actually 3 other pple who post from singapore. fess up all of you!! i know it can't be just me here, or hmv wouldn't have sold all their copies of FFGFJKGD on the shelf within the first week. 2. thanks to everyone who responded to my question regarding the artwork of 3, 6, 9... 3. squat toilets piss me off. i'm surprised that they still exist. 4. pple on handsfree mobile phones always look like they're talking to thin air. i like to laugh at them, if i realise it before i think they're psychotic. 5. i always thought the line in TBWTAS was "she is as pure as the cauldron's cold", which would be a fantastic line. then i read the actual lyrics today and it's actually "the cold-driven snow". i was rather disappointed. HY ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andy_flynnie at xxx.com Thu Jul 6 15:14:17 2000 From: andy_flynnie at xxx.com (Andy Flynn) Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 15:14:17 BST Subject: Sinister: The Cutter Message-ID: The Cutter is an ace song.....and the Bunneymen were/are a great band!! But its a million miles away from B&S. I think they're a lot sexier. Some of their tunes can make you feel your trippin' off your head at a black mass sometimes!! Higher hell on Porcupine is a bit like that....I'd reccomend the album Porcupine to anyone!! They're B&S fans too! See how the cicle is complete....Everything goes around the water! Andy ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iaradcliffe at xxx.com Thu Jul 6 18:01:49 2000 From: iaradcliffe at xxx.com (Iain Radcliffe) Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 18:01:49 BST Subject: Sinister: Tea in a Park-Warning: List abuse & Electronic renaissance mentioned! Message-ID: <20000706170149.74481.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello Tweezers, how's it hanging ? I was thinking of having my Tea in a Park this weekend. Would anyone care to join me? Oh go on. I was thinking maybe a nice spot called Balado, near Kinross (Perth, Scotland, Britain, The World, Solar System, Milky Way, Universe, Grain of Sand in Cosmic Mindfuck Beach) in the shadow of a giant golf ball. We can take tiffin and talk about precious things. Let's say: 1pm outside the Orange Wedge phone recharging thingy ('cos some woman was gushing about it to me today) near the Cafe Club tent. Saturday and Sunday that is. For recognition purposes, everyone has to wear clothes, eat an orange or orange-related fruit like a mandarin or even tangerine and of course wear their sinister credentials on their sleeve. If anyone has a problem with time or place, then mail me and we can draw up a new blueprint from the plans. Right, can't be arsed thinking of anything else. Jarvis x x x P.S. Sweetie - could you send me your number if you want to rendezvous. I lost it whilst pished. P.P.S. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Thu Jul 6 19:33:50 2000 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996) Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 19:33:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Got drunk at the top of the Eiffel Tower... Message-ID: <3964D10E.6D8733B3@cs.strath.ac.uk> I'm sure they did. Well done to France for a spectacular (if slightly fortunate) Euro 2000 win. Have to feel slightly sorry for Italy, and very sorry indeed for Mark Cassarotto, for reasons of heritage and finances. Poor boy. In a bizzare link, I had a dream last night in which aliens invaded the Earth, and based themsleves in France. I'm sure I had exactly the same dream years ago, possibly it's something to to with me feeling a bit ill. My mum thinks I'll probably get shingles. That would be nice. Anyway, the aliens did cunning things like phoning up pretending to be my mum, telling us to lower our defences, but I wasn't having any of it. Then they turned back time, so they'd have more time to plan an attack, or something. But while reviewing the dream after waking up, I realised that they'd actually truned time forward, which would be no use at all. Another interesting dream ruined by my subconcious' lack of arithmetical skills. Oh, and I also dreamt that I got a big tattoo, then said to someone today how this was strange because I would never DREAM of getting a big tattoo. Then realised I had. What am I talking about? I think I'll write a poem instead. The sky is blue You might need a poo If you eat lots of fibre Or you could just read a libre. Hmm, that wasn't very good, and my French is probably wrong. Or baaaaad. And it doesn't ryhme. And it has poo in it, which no-one should have thrust upon them. But I'll continue anyway, because Rachel said: > They were, to > borrow a classmate's phrase, "the shit". People very often refer to me as "the shit", with optional variations (stupid, annoying etc). I never realised it was a compliment before. Hey, I'm popular! Here's another poem. The Fourth of July Kind of passed me by Since I'm not American And I don't own a pelican But that's of no relevance. Talking of Rachels, as I just was, I keep forgetting to plug my good friend (and former fragrant listee) Rachel Playforth's fine (apart from the stuff by me, oh dear) web-zine. Nice Peter Miller mentioned it as the last bastion of creativity (or some such other phrasing) left on the web, but didn't give the address. It's www.buzzwords.org.uk. Please please please send your contributions in (buzzwords at bigfoot.com), they honestly can't be worse than mine. And talking of Peter (Christ my links are superb today), he said: > I recently read that "deja vu" is usually the result of brain disease Oh come now Peter, how could something as wonderfully hippy as "Almost cut my hair", or even "Our House" come from minds which were anything less than lucid. You talk pish, son. Elenita, picnic goddess: > in case you can't reach me, Mr Martin Robinson himself > will be please to answer your queries (not as nicely as I would though) on > 07968 369985 To all you potential picnicers (not me, unfortunately). Please, please, don't phone Martin Robinson, you'll only make him think he's important. Which he isn't. At all. He'll likely turn into a Picnic Kaiser again. Or something. No gigs til 2001!. Katrina, how can one so lovely utter stuff so poo? The Sodastream album is quite nice though. And so are they, so you should probably buy it. Tennis news: 12000 bottles of Champagne are downed at Wimbledon each year. Mostly by Mr Dokic, by the sounds of things. I've had enough of you people. Or I'm hungry. One of the two, anyway. You go disco and I'll go my way. Alright? That's my view, anyway. What? Bye. Ally xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sadandsentimental at xxx.com Thu Jul 6 19:48:54 2000 From: sadandsentimental at xxx.com (Curtis Heath) Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 13:48:54 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Clientele interview about B&S Message-ID: Howdy Folks, Somewhere between Arab Strap and the new one, most of us discovered the Clientele. I truly love them... but I don't know what to think about their interview in Twisterella: "Belle and sebastian's music is self indulgent and soulless. My sister listens to them and shouts "try harder!". We have nothing in common with them, aesthetically or geographically. The NME journalist who coined the comparison was having an uninspired day." Doesn't this break your heart? Surely they're sick of B&S comparisons, but damn! Can't we just all get along? The rest of the interview is in Swedish... so you'll have to go to the Twisterella site and translate. Have Fun... Curtis Send FREE Greetings for Father's Day--or any day! Click here: http://www.whowhere.lycos.com/redirects/fathers_day.rdct +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Thu Jul 6 22:14:40 2000 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:14:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: T meetup possibilities Message-ID: <003501bfe78f$3337d5a0$058c183e@default> Hi. I'll be at the following, so if you recognise me, come up and say hi SATURDAY: David Gray, King Adora, Silver Pill, Looper, Wannadies, Fun Lovin Criminals, Badly Drawn Boy SUNDAY: Clint Boon, Soulwax, Urusei Yatsura, Iggy Pop, A, Muse, Les Rythmes Digitales, Travis --Jason Andreas If nice guys finish last, then I'll never finish at all... ICQ: 45821217 AIM: RadioJase +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From t_ells at xxx.com Thu Jul 6 22:24:16 2000 From: t_ells at xxx.com (tim ellsworth) Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:24:16 PDT Subject: Sinister: bourgeiosie pastie Message-ID: <20000706212416.2189.qmail@hotmail.com> i used to know with this lady named mary jo at the grocery store i w previously worked at and the b n s song describes her to a t! When I play it on my guitar, or try anyway, i just ad lib some story she would make up to get out of work. She was truly an old, lonely pain in the ass but she would have the most ridiculous things to say. Anyway, my favorite song on the new album is either don't leave the light on baby or too much love. Chalet lines bums me out and the rest are so so. This whole album seems to revolve more around the keyboard than the guitar. There's also more male and female vocals which is a plus. I don't know though if I like this one better than any of the others. >From: "jay" >Reply-To: "jay" >To: >Subject: Re: Sinister: bourgeiosie pastie >Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 12:18:43 -0400 > > > 6.nice day for a sulk (reminds me of 'raindrops keep fallin on my head >by > > sacha distell - ooh and the ringo by numbers thing - so true... makes me > > skip down the road if there's noone there) > > >this always mixes in my head with "martha, my dear" from the white album. >i think it's just the way the melody goes up high in the >chorus. other than that, i don't think i've heard such a meticulous >magical mystery pepper recreation before, they must've been >pumping geoff emerick for information. "no no, i want *that* vocal sound, >with *that* echo. awwwwww, cmon geoff!" if i remember >correctly, richard was saying it was very beach boys-influenced, but it >seems much more english to me. > >as for "electronic renaissance", i've been re-evaluating it since the >discussion came up here and i really do like it now after >habitually skipping it for months. i think it's the tinny echo on stuart's >voice that hooks me. i still avoid "mary jo" though. >("you *what*?!") i know a lot of people love that song, but it tends to >kill the giddy sort of melancholy i get from the previous >two songs. there's things i can identity with in her story, and then all >of a sudden she's leaving me for dead! yeesh. *you're* >brutal and i'm afraid of you, mary. :) > >jay, who's still blushing at receiving a crush vote > >"now that you've made me want to die, you tell me that you're >unboyfriendable" > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ > +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From t_ells at xxx.com Thu Jul 6 22:45:45 2000 From: t_ells at xxx.com (tim ellsworth) Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:45:45 PDT Subject: Sinister: Election & Starbucks Message-ID: <20000706214545.38708.qmail@hotmail.com> Has anyone seen that movie Election with Matthew Brodrick(sp?) and Reese Witherspoon? There is a scene towards the end were the one lesbian girl finds a new partner and they are running and skipping on a bridge and waterfall. The music in the background sounded like Belle and Sebastian although stripped down to just guitar and vocals but I had to find out. After the movie I went through the credits to the song listings and found out it wasn't Belle n Sebastian but some cat named Donovan. This was a while ago and I still have not bought any Donovan albums but I've been meaning to watch Election again. If you have not seen it you should, it's not about lesbians or anything but about a high school election and a teacher cheating on his wife. It is hilarious. On a sadder scale I went with my friends to Starbucks(implying that i just went, not actually buying or drinking any of that rancid stuff)and guess what they were playing?! "Sleep the Clock Around!" for all the trendy, hipster types waxing poetic with all their other trendy counterparts. Nobody even seemed to notice it either until I told my friends that this was Belle and Sebastian. Than some girl told all her friends and they all started buzzing knowing that they should like this song. I hope this was somebodies tape from home, I would hate to think BnS are now on Muzak for all the lost corporate souls to hear and exploit. Well I'm spent for now. Tim ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From declan63 at xxx.com Thu Jul 6 23:29:56 2000 From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:29:56 -0400 Subject: Sinister: cafe americano Re: Election & Starbucks References: <20000706214545.38708.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <002a01bfe799$b6f0a520$2a101218@athen1.ga.home.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "tim ellsworth" To: Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 5:45 PM Subject: Sinister: Election & Starbucks If you have not seen it you should, it's > not about lesbians or anything but about a high school election and a > teacher cheating on his wife. It is hilarious. i second you here, tim. it got a bit overlooked but it's really a wonderful film. i knew all these characters from high school, and i doubt it's just an american thing > On a sadder scale I went with my friends to Starbucks(implying that i just > went, not actually buying or drinking any of that rancid stuff)and guess > what they were playing?! "Sleep the Clock Around!" for all the trendy, > hipster types waxing poetic with all their other trendy counterparts. > Nobody even seemed to notice it either until I told my friends that this was > Belle and Sebastian. Than some girl told all her friends and they all > started buzzing knowing that they should like this song. I hope this was > somebodies tape from home, I would hate to think BnS are now on Muzak for > all the lost corporate souls to hear and exploit. it was a bit disturbing when i happened upon starbucks in london this past march. they truly *are* everywhere. i'll admit a bit embarrasedly that i went in the one around soho because i was craving a mocha and didn't know where else to go. but, i swear, i didn't enjoy it. :) i really liked the place in leicester square, i can't remember it's name but it's full of wood and was the only place that seemed to stay open past 11. there was another place on regents st. i think that was very nice and peaceful. what really made my jaw drop was the big sign in the manhattan coffee co. explaining american coffeehouses and how they endeavored to recreate them. the thing is, they did, *exactly*, right down to the torani syrups, the jar of biscottis on the counter and the entire decor. it was both comfortingly homey and slightly imperialistic feeling. i got stung later being touristy and trying to find "authentic" fish and chips in the baker st. area. i went into this little cafe and the food was served on a plate. "oi, where's the newspaper?!" i wanted to shout. oh well, that was about the worst thing that happened to me, so i can't complain too much. that, and getting mugged and propositioned within thirty seconds much later than i should've been on oxford st. by myself (the oxford circus tube seems to be a line in the sand). telling a prostitute you just gave your last note to a junkie under threat of grievous bodily harm (that is, "i'll fookin' stick a knife in ye") certainly doesn't stop them from trying. "don't you have a bank card?" "uhhhhh......not on me. sorry." nonetheless i miss england terribly. :) jay, who's reliving the sounds, if not the sights, of last night's extravaganza with the woggles. the "who?" you may say? shame on you. get thee to the garage! "arthur lee has gone and lost his mind" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vincewong at xxx.com Fri Jul 7 01:24:49 2000 From: vincewong at xxx.com (vincent wong) Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 20:24:49 -0400 Subject: Sinister: videos on icrunch? In-Reply-To: <002301bfe64a$50d70360$5cf20218@cdrrpd1.ia.home.com> Message-ID: After you click the link, enter a email address, and enter. You need to register in order to get in. but don't worry your not missing much since windows media sux, and never works properlly. vince on 7/5/00 2:29 AM, Joe Galloro at joeygalloro at home.com wrote: > hey, > > what is all this crap about there being B&S videos at icrunch.com, huh? > Everytime I go there usually after I see a post full of it saying there are > videos there. > Well I cannot find them. > If somebody would please give me the truth. I would like to see the videos > please. > > Thanx for yer time. > Joe Galloro. > (Dylan is a Tool) hahahaha!! > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vincewong at xxx.com Fri Jul 7 01:22:48 2000 From: vincewong at xxx.com (vincent wong) Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 20:22:48 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Election & Starbucks In-Reply-To: <20000706214545.38708.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Actually a few people, mostly older, that I've introduced b&s to have often compared it Donovan. I know of a few of his songs, not much and I don't really hear any comparisons between the two. Well if you don't know I think his most popular song is "mellow yellow"(?). Starbucks only play their own cd's, and they are actually on a starbucks compilation ( I know this cos I got a few friends who work as coffee slaves at starfucks, oops I mean starbucks). don't laugh, but starbucks actually have some nice compilations, I've never actually seen the B&S compilation, and I guess its no longer available (at their website anyways), I would love to know what else is on the comp. though. We have a couple of starbucks cd's at work, and thier not bad. One is an opera, and I guess the other is suppose to music for an Italian cafe or something, it is rather nice in the work and coffee enviroment. BTW I hate starbucks coffee, I think I'll call it the rancid coffeeshop. on 7/6/00 5:45 PM, tim ellsworth at t_ells at hotmail.com wrote: > Has anyone seen that movie Election with Matthew Brodrick(sp?) and Reese > Witherspoon? There is a scene towards the end were the one lesbian girl > finds a new partner and they are running and skipping on a bridge and > waterfall. The music in the background sounded like Belle and Sebastian > although stripped down to just guitar and vocals but I had to find out. > After the movie I went through the credits to the song listings and found > out it wasn't Belle n Sebastian but some cat named Donovan. This was a > while ago and I still have not bought any Donovan albums but I've been > meaning to watch Election again. If you have not seen it you should, it's > not about lesbians or anything but about a high school election and a > teacher cheating on his wife. It is hilarious. > On a sadder scale I went with my friends to Starbucks(implying that i just > went, not actually buying or drinking any of that rancid stuff)and guess > what they were playing?! "Sleep the Clock Around!" for all the trendy, > hipster types waxing poetic with all their other trendy counterparts. > Nobody even seemed to notice it either until I told my friends that this was > Belle and Sebastian. Than some girl told all her friends and they all > started buzzing knowing that they should like this song. I hope this was > somebodies tape from home, I would hate to think BnS are now on Muzak for > all the lost corporate souls to hear and exploit. > Well I'm spent for now. > Tim > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mindmonkey1 at xxx.com Fri Jul 7 09:34:23 2000 From: mindmonkey1 at xxx.com (ineffable) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 01:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: i will show you fear in a handful of dust Message-ID: <25034960.962958863499.JavaMail.imail@almond.excite.com> Hello. It seems that my identity still remains a source of confusion. It is tricky to be any more explicit so I suppose I'll just have to live with it. I've been thinking a bit about the mailing list as several of you sweethearts have expressed consternation about the lack of B+S content. Is this the point of the list? I guess a priori for us to be on the list we all must think they are smashing and thus the rest of the debate (as it seems to have been recently) is to categorizing which of the songs fall in to the following categories - marvellous, good or less good. I think that is as critical as I can get with B+S - if you don't like it it's because you don't understand it. The other topic would be B+S trivia and if Isobel is gorgeous or not (or somewhere in between). I was strongly swayed by Magda's point about just enjoying pop music qua pop music - singing, dancing in your bedroom, drinking beer, kissing girls, driving, feeling sad. Making life more bearable and helping us all to rise above things and 'keep it light'. I hope I don't sound like an Englishman trying to pretend to be an American with that last comment.....! The reason I enjoy reading the list is just to hear whatever others have to say - however trivial or disagreeable it may be me personally. Perhaps there will always be an element of narcissism to lists (I am sure everyone has realized the structure inherent in the way we all write our mails) in that the link of B+S 'fandom' probably contains several other similarities between us - perhaps when we speak all we here is an echo. I hope this is not the case. I still think there is genuine communication sometimes. What is the opinion of Stephen 'I used to be called Tintin' Duffy? Yours, Music In Colours. _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Fri Jul 7 10:44:46 2000 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 02:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Eine kleine lift muzak Message-ID: <20000707094446.4468.qmail@web1608.mail.yahoo.com> Darlings, I'm back and it feels good. I went to Oireland last weekend for the first time in moy loyfe (Irish people, I’m sorry. I’ll stop it now) and it was lovely. That is, apart from the fact that Ballina, County Mayo welcomed me with the mother of all thunderstorms, a power cut, no hot water and the phone lines down. How on earth was I going to make myself lovely for my friend's wedding the next day? Fear not, I did not skank about with flies buzzing atop my head a la Pigpen - by one o'clock on Saturday I'd found a hot shower (my B&B still had a blackout, not that it was dark, but you know what I mean) and I even painted my nails, before stepping inside a church for the second time in a week (both for weddings, but blimey!) then stuffing my face with good food and bouze, climbing on a castle roof in my three-and-a-half-inch heels and then getting caught by the owner of the castle while up to no good in the cellar*. I also danced like a mad thing and, for a change, watched other people falling over on their arses. Later on, I got into a conversation about weirdo internet communities, so naturally I mentioned that I was on Sinister. The person I was talking to furrowed her brow, then raised her eyebrows, then just looked a bit puzzled. “Aren’t Belle & Sebastian a bit gothy?” she enquired. Oh dear. Did somebody mention deja vu? Systa Disko spake of the Cutter, which reminded me that I heard it while awaiting the arrival of the significantly delayed Ryan Air flight 803 into Knock so I could take the significantly delayed Ryan Air flight 804 back to Lunding. I also heard Elliott Smith when I went into Dunnes Store to buy some socks. Somebody has been doing rather a good job of choosing muzak, rather like those cock-sucking corporate coffee whores at Starbucks. Tim Ellsworth, you aren't the first to hear B&S whilst downing your mocha (see archives). Sightings (or rather soundings) of everyone's favourite scottish seven-piece on their compilation tapes in various cities would suggest it's all a part of Company Policy or something. But are royalties being paid here? Have they SOLD OUT? Did somebody mention deja vu? Incidentally, the best muzak I ever heard was in Standa in Milan, where they played a pan pipe version of Spice Up Your Life. Yes, really. Heather Humble, who has a great name, wrote about somebody (a journalist?) saying that FISHYCLAP is one of her essentials for the beach. It's funny, I've never thought of B&S as the sort of thing I'd choose to accompany me on a week sun, sea, sand and, er, sweat. I feel it belongs in more temperate climes. Blue skies dotted with cotton wool clouds and leafy trees, rather than dazzling mediterranean light and cicadas. Another funny thing is that, while I associate most music with certain times of year (try the first two Suede albums on a rainy November night with your room lit only by the orange streetlamp outside your window, or maybe that's just disgracefully pretentious), B&S really seems to be a band for all seasons. Even Fox in the Snow sounds OK in July. Especially if you live somewhere mountainous and antipodean of course, but you know what I mean. Don't you? Paul Arathoon, a while ago, you wrote a lengthy opening sentence to your post, which was lovely, but if you reckon you’ve written the longest this year, go check out anything the Pinefox has ever posted. He takes some beating, y’know. That's all folks! Juicy Lucy ps. you are Stephen Trousse and I claim my five pounds pps. hello to Tamy, who would earn a crush vote from me, if I had more than one *pulling flowers out of flower arrangements actually, you dirty-minded little buggers __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pixidustlady at xxx.uk Fri Jul 7 18:06:04 2000 From: pixidustlady at xxx.uk (the original pixidustlady) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:06:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: who loves the floyd?????? Message-ID: <002401bfe835$c7dca4a0$b3e086d4@pixidustlady> good evening to everyone. steven kado and i were having a bit of a DISCUSSION about pink floyd/production values. unfortunately he hasn'y replied to the last email i sent him (hello steve, are you there?) so i thought i'd edit some highlights and get everyones opinions. S.K. said >>>>> "ok. THE FLOYD: are (to me) a bad band. they are the bad band that i always associate with low budget surrealist prints. all that bullshit and bombast makes me ill. so far as i'm concearned pink floyd is whats wrong with radiohead and spritualized and all those bands that go so far to make things GRANDIOSE and then don't fill things up with grandness. to me floyd also stands for a particularily obnoxious style of production. like why do they HAVE to make records sound that way? why? it hurts me...." to which i replied >>>>>> "but the whole thing about radiohead is not supposed to be grandiose. its just complex, like the world and peoples minds, and the reason that (many) people think they're so brilliant is cos they seem to be able to translate some parts of this complex complex world into music that is not only beautiful, but heart-rendingly so. as for over-production, i'm not sure what to say there. there are pros and cons. just look at the differences between tigermilk and fold your hands..... if anything, i think tony doogans production of B&S is not right. it's too perfect, too rounded, too balanced. there aren't enough rough edges. like the bit at the start of tigermilk when you can hear stuart zipping up his cardigan before he starts to sing. thats so nice because its so personal. so in that case, i think tight production is wrong. but for radiohead its different. they're trying to do something totally different to B&S, and i think modern production techniques add to that, heightening the effect of the music or whatever. its silly to think of music in terms of production values. its about individual bands and the individual sounds they are trying to create. thats where production can make or break a band. i could go on at length, and start on my diatribe about the beatles and that release they did a few years ago, i think it was called REAL LOVE (?), when they remodelled abbey road studios to get the right sound (changing things like the pipes in the walls, so that everything was the same as it was in the 60's, thus acheiving a true 'beatles' sound. of course, it sounded awful by modern standards, and not even that similar to stuff they actually did record in the 60's, so, a failure, in theory) sorry. bit of a tangent there. just remembered that this is really about pink floyd. their production was very relevant to what they were trying to do at the time. it was all very experimental. even non-fans have to appreciate the fact that they were pionneers of music technology, even if you dont really like the end results. i guess what i'm trying to say is that i hate to judge everything by todays standards, and that context is so important when interpreting something like music, simply because it can be taken so many ways." so i'm just interested what other sinisterees think of all this kerfuffle, especially my thoughts on tony doogan etc. but i bet i wont get any replies this weekend cos most scottish folk will be at Twho love in the park, which i simply cant afford this summer, bugger bugger bugger. i hate being a poor student. anyway. any listees live in liverpool at all? since i'm moving there in september. autumnal picnics in sefton park might be nice. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From t_ells at xxx.com Fri Jul 7 18:45:39 2000 From: t_ells at xxx.com (tim ellsworth) Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 10:45:39 PDT Subject: Sinister: life during wartime Message-ID: <20000707174539.12206.qmail@hotmail.com> first off i just want to say that i feel like a hypocrite for bashing corporations like starbucks because i work at a certain corporate bookstore that sells starbucks coffee. actually the last job before that was another corporate grocery store and we sold starbucks coffee and there was an actual starbucks nextdoor! it is literally everywhere and you have to go to either campbell or los gatos to even see an independent coffee shop, not counting the mattise(sp?) downtown. i don't know why i care, i don't like coffee much(except coffee icecream) and i usually get ice tea. but i feel like a chump because i myself feel like a corporate soul. the only reassurance i get is that i do absolutely nothing except read and talk to my fellow employees while occasionally going into the music section and recommending cds by 80's hair metal mullet bands like ratt and motley crue. i've tried stereolab and papa m but people just think they have funny names and my staff takes them down so they can recommend eric clapton or fear factory, once even the mortal kombat soundtrack. eric clapton isn't too bad but does he need a rec? last night i pitched this album called montrose which is supposed to have david lee roth or sammy hagar in it but everyone just laughed. i guess that is good because i don't know what i would do if someone actually bought that shite, after all it is just a joke. i'm waiting for some nut with a mullet, oakleys, and a sleeveless journey shirt to come in and say something like, "montrose?! far out man i been lookin' for this baby for years!" that would make my day/career. in closing i have to pull another late shift tonight making me miss my friends birthday, which is bad because she is sweet and genuinly nice which is not a quality i have found in a lot of girls my age these days. i can't complain too much as i've had this whole week off and i did see her on the 4th of july. p.s. if any of you want to see funny pictures of people with mullets i suggest going to mulletsgalore.com it's hilarious! in no time you'll be using the word mulletude(i hope) tim ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From t_ells at xxx.com Fri Jul 7 18:45:41 2000 From: t_ells at xxx.com (tim ellsworth) Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 10:45:41 PDT Subject: Sinister: life during wartime Message-ID: <20000707174541.59950.qmail@hotmail.com> first off i just want to say that i feel like a hypocrite for bashing corporations like starbucks because i work at a certain corporate bookstore that sells starbucks coffee. actually the last job before that was another corporate grocery store and we sold starbucks coffee and there was an actual starbucks nextdoor! it is literally everywhere and you have to go to either campbell or los gatos to even see an independent coffee shop, not counting the mattise(sp?) downtown. i don't know why i care, i don't like coffee much(except coffee icecream) and i usually get ice tea. but i feel like a chump because i myself feel like a corporate soul. the only reassurance i get is that i do absolutely nothing except read and talk to my fellow employees while occasionally going into the music section and recommending cds by 80's hair metal mullet bands like ratt and motley crue. i've tried stereolab and papa m but people just think they have funny names and my staff takes them down so they can recommend eric clapton or fear factory, once even the mortal kombat soundtrack. eric clapton isn't too bad but does he need a rec? last night i pitched this album called montrose which is supposed to have david lee roth or sammy hagar in it but everyone just laughed. i guess that is good because i don't know what i would do if someone actually bought that shite, after all it is just a joke. i'm waiting for some nut with a mullet, oakleys, and a sleeveless journey shirt to come in and say something like, "montrose?! far out man i been lookin' for this baby for years!" that would make my day/career. in closing i have to pull another late shift tonight making me miss my friends birthday, which is bad because she is sweet and genuinly nice which is not a quality i have found in a lot of girls my age these days. i can't complain too much as i've had this whole week off and i did see her on the 4th of july. p.s. if any of you want to see funny pictures of people with mullets i suggest going to mulletsgalore.com it's hilarious! in no time you'll be using the word mulletude(i hope) tim ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From showmemagic at xxx.com Fri Jul 7 18:49:07 2000 From: showmemagic at xxx.com (Joey .) Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 17:49:07 GMT Subject: Sinister: Northampton?? Calling N/H... Is anybody there.... Message-ID: <20000707174907.12352.qmail@hotmail.com> Helloooooo everyone... Just a (naughty, slightly abusive) quicky. Is anyone out there resident to the wonderful Northampton?? Just ripping of the pixidustlady a bit there, but when I heard her mention Liverpool, I thought I would ask the same of Northampton, as I am going to college there in September. I always think that Northampton is a bit of a misleading name. Southampton is actually in the south, but not Northampton. No no nooooo!! That's, you know, just slap bang in the middle of the east midlands. Some thing there just doesn't quite add up... ;) ************************************************** **pixidustlady, tony doogan, blar blarrrrrrrrrrr** ************************************************** I kinda agree, yes :) [Not a very strong opinion today, as you could prolly tell from that riveting comment there!! ;)] But I must say, seeing as she mentioned how nice the sound of Stu M's cardy is, that there is this nice Stu M noise on Fishyclaps. It's not the same thing at all though. In fact it is completely different... but... *blush*... It's still nice... :) At the beginning of "Chalet Lines" listen carefully. You can hear Stu's "mouth". Yes, his mouth! Hurray!! Just listen carefully! His mouth is like, just a wee bit dry maybe. You can hear it open. It's fab! Please someone verify this, so everyone does't think i am nut's!! Have a nice weekend everyone!! Take Care, Lot's of Love, Jo x ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cellophanesky at xxx.com Fri Jul 7 19:47:45 2000 From: cellophanesky at xxx.com (Brian Pennington) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:47:45 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Production Values (Warning, High B&S Content) In-Reply-To: <002401bfe835$c7dca4a0$b3e086d4@pixidustlady> References: <002401bfe835$c7dca4a0$b3e086d4@pixidustlady> Message-ID: Hello, Hrrm....for some reason I keep feeling like I should talk about Belle & Sebastian, and nothing else I can seem to think of feels like I should blurt it on out, you know? At 6:06 PM +0100 7/7/00, the original pixidustlady wrote: >if anything, i think tony doogans production of B&S is not right. it's too >perfect, too rounded, too balanced. there aren't enough rough edges. like >the bit at the start of tigermilk when you can hear stuart zipping up his >cardigan before he starts to sing. thats so nice because its so personal. >so in that case, i think tight production is wrong. Okay, this is just plain wrong. I can see what you're getting at, but I really don't think Tony Doogan had anything at all to do with it or with that zipper. I mean, I don't *know* but there are some ink polaroids Stuart David wrote discussing Struan recording an ice cream bell during a song in Tigermilk. I think when they did Tigermilk, the band liked doing things like throwing in odd ambient noises...and they continued doing it, too, just look at "If You're Feeling Sinister," which sometimes I think is the best song they've ever done, just because of those kids in the beginning. Obviously that mysterious recorded party was one another attempt at throwing some ambient noise into a song, I wonder why they decided against it. Could the song be on a Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner single? ;) Ambient noises really do add a lot to the atmosphere of songs, though, just have a listen to Let the Snakes Crinkle Their Heads to Death by Felt. One song features some seagulls and another features...guess....some people talking as if at a dinner party ;) Wonder where B&S got the idea... Anyway, I've always adored ambient noise in songs, and I'd go ahead and include samples in with that category. I tried to incorporate ambient noise into one of my own songs, and I think it really did a lot for it. I have this idea that someday I could make an entire album and go out and record various ambient noises to give the songs character, and write songs about the places or the people I recorded. But I'd need one of those DAT recorders I think, and those cost an arm and a leg. Someday, maybe. On to production values...tight and otherwise. I think people who don't know anything about the recording process tend to get caught up in the lo-fi versus hi-fi debate, decrying production and such. Myself until relatively recently included. But having actually recorded myself with shitty equipment, not by choice, I find myself wishing I had some better stuff. It's true that amateurish things in the recording process add to the intimacy of it, but these are more aesthetic values of the musicians recording than they are of which knobs are twiddled. Like when people talk at the end of a song and start asking one another what's going on. Cheap equipment, on the other hand, just tends to make everything sound muffled. I think in the end it's an aesthetic choice of what sort of production you're doing rather than hi-fi vs. lo-fi. Certain slickly recorded things have a certain nauseous feel to them, I agree, but certain records with really high production values sound fantastic. I just think it has more to do with the sort of production the producer is trying to achieve. And to this end, I think Tony Doogan does a magnificent job producing Belle & Sebastian, and Mojave 3 for that matter. I see the problem you're getting at though...a lot of Belle & Sebastian's newer songs tend to go for the soaring giddying heights rather than the intimate depths. And you probably miss that, as I guess we all do. Sometimes songs from Sinister seem like they're talking right too you, and to no one but you. FISHYCLAP, on the other hand, seems to make me think more of lots of strings and crescendos, and my life doesn't seem like it's about strings and crescendos, my life is laughing children and zippers. So on some level I guess it's hard to connect with these songs in the same way we used to. Anyway, I feel like I was on to something there, make your own conclusions. -- Brian Pennington, aka Mick McMick | cellophanesky at mac.com | ICQ# 39021436 Sandcastle Records: the Cellophane Sky: "Better a tear of truth than smiling lies." - Duncan Browne +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From colinboy21 at xxx.com Fri Jul 7 20:48:54 2000 From: colinboy21 at xxx.com (colin thornton) Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 12:48:54 PDT Subject: Sinister: mojo Message-ID: <20000707194854.78529.qmail@hotmail.com> I'm really disappointed with the review of B&S in the new issue of Mojo magazine. They dislike the album because the title sounds pretentious. Why do reviewers feel the need to judge the condescension of a group based on trivial things like album titles? Can't they just listen to the music and enjoy what there is to offer? Mojo also has issues with the fact that Stuart David took a little bit of techno with him when he left the B&S fold. Didn't Stuart leave us with shitty songs like Chickfactor and Wooskie? How did he become the John Lennon of the group? Besides, I thought Chris and Struan were both into electronica themselves. Anyway... I've been thinking a lot about Struan's distaste for If Your Feeling Sinister. His discomfort with the album's effect has denied us live versions of "Dylan in the Movies" and "Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying", and all the other good tracks. I've noticed that there aren't even any videos from Sinister. I wonder what the big deal is...they are good songs. Wish me luck! I'm auditioning for survivor. If I make the cut then I'll do my best to advertise Belle and Sebastian by humming their tunes in the Australian Outback. Violet Crumbles, Colin ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tmh at xxx.edu Fri Jul 7 20:52:05 2000 From: tmh at xxx.edu (Todd M Herrmann) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:52:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: songs in the key of floyd In-Reply-To: <002401bfe835$c7dca4a0$b3e086d4@pixidustlady> Message-ID: Hi all I don't post that often, usually just observing from the fringe, generally due to lack of time but the recent conversation of production values regarding Pink Floyd sparked my mind. On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, the original pixidustlady wrote: "their production was very relevant to what they were trying to do at the time. it was all very experimental. even non-fans have to appreciate the fact that they were pionneers of music technology, even if you dont really like the end results." With this I agree. When Pink Floyd released their first album the world didn't know what to expect. Some of the songs were fun and poppy in a Beatlesque way, like "Bike" which almost sounds like a song for children, and some were starting down the psychadelic explorations in sound which would became Floyd's trademark. Without great production albums like Dark side of the Moon which I consider one of the greatest albums of all time, would sound like crap. Just like the Pink Floyd's members were ahead of their time when their music emerged in the 1960's and still are in some sense, the production of Floyd albums was an extraordinary pioneering effort. I mean could you imagine being a sound engineer and having Pink Floyd walk into teh studio and start playing music like you've never heard before and be the one responsible for making sure all these strange new sounds were recorded well. The people who figured out how to make these wondering sonic journeys were genuises. And I mean both the members of the band and their producers. A band's production is like their personal signature. It gives their music an extra memorable flair. Without it they would just be making sound, not necessarily creating music. Belle and Sebastian are in the same way, they creating music that has their own personal flair such as the children's voices at the beginning of IYFS. Todd +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bberman at xxx.edu Fri Jul 7 21:31:33 2000 From: bberman at xxx.edu (Brandon Berman) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:31:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: songs in the key of floyd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is my first post and I felt compelled to say something about the floyd discussion since all of my friends are raving fans while I am an avid hater of the band. I can admit that what some of you have said is true, you do have to give the band some credit for talent and innovation. But i also agree with what someone said about Floyd's art, my friends who are in to these guys are to into what they think is the "trippiness" of their artwork, movie, and tours. They believe that this adds to the greatness of their music. Now as some people may feel this is entertaining and nice to look at, which is fine with me, as i can to enjoy artwork relating to music, but shouldn't the band's greatness, if there is any, be judged strictly on the music. I was onced dragged to see Roger Waters in concert and felt completely let down, even though I didn't like the music. Waters and his band were almost lifeless and still in their performance and they did not seem to improvise on their music or even add any kind of flare from the studio recordings. The rest of my friends were so consumed by the "trippy" artwork on the screen, when of course they were tripping at the time. To this day they still talk about the concert's artwork and never mention the music from the show. I am sorry if this offends any Floyd fans, now don't think I have some personal problem with the band, if you dig there music that is great, but don't tell me they were the greatest band ever and then pursue to try and convince me it is not entirely because of their music. Also related to Floyd and my friends that cannot get enough of them is their lyrics. This kinda relates to any lyrics of anyone at anytime, my friends and I disagree on the importance of lyrics. They believe that if they didn't understand exactly what Waters meant when he wrote his tunes than they couldn't fully appreciate the songs. It is fine to read up on your favorite band and to understand what they felt when writing the music, but is this necessary? I feel that when listening to music, i.e. B&S, I can understand what the author means from listening to the music, and if I am wrong, which I am sure I am in most cases, does that matter. If i am wrong I am still getting some meaning out of the music that has something personal to me. I do also want to say something about B&S, someone recently said that the newer album may not have been as good because it doesn't relate directly to each person individually as well as the previous ones, I agree with this, I am sure for some people the music can relate personally. It just doesn't for me, don't get me wrong I think the album is fantastic and I love listening to it. But after finally listening to some of the older albums they have, after a few weeks of listening to nothing but FISHYCLAP, I realised that the other songs still mean more to me than these new ones, and I have a much easier time relating to it. Sorry if this was too long, Brandon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com Fri Jul 7 21:05:14 2000 From: Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com (Paul Rudolph) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:05:14 -0400 Subject: Sinister: When will Greg get here? Message-ID: <0056750020711659000002L592*@MHS> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From knightowl at xxx.net Fri Jul 7 21:58:12 2000 From: knightowl at xxx.net (Knightowl) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:58:12 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Election & Starbucks References: Message-ID: <00d101bfe856$2fc2f2c0$d81fd718@mountaincable.net> > Actually a few people, mostly older, that I've introduced b&s to have often > compared it Donovan Yes. Its his voice and that soft lilting quality they use so often. The "get out of the office and into the sunshine" vibe if you like. When people (yes, mostly older) who have never heard of B&S but know Donovan hear them they generally say something like "sounds like Donovan with good production values". "Please don't let them make me be a monkey butler", Ed +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vrider at xxx.net Sat Jul 8 07:28:42 2000 From: vrider at xxx.net (Vicki Rider) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:28:42 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Chalupa Message-ID: <005401bfe8a6$12a0b380$ab89b4d1@compaq> Does anyone know where on the internet I can find a decent-sized picture of the Postcard logo--that little kitty banging the drum? Rachel W. :-) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sat Jul 8 11:00:02 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 12:00:02 +0200 Subject: Sinister: The ReOooOOonification of Germany Message-ID: <001501bfe8c3$7a91b760$8d97243e@itjfvkli> Is there anyone called Adrian Evans on this list? I have something for him from Thailand. Oon has forgotten his e-mail address, the first part of which is emblazoned across my heart - vibrosheep at junglemail - but I don't know how it ends. It's not often things on the list make me angry. Besides, I'm like Chuck D - when I get mad I put it down on a pad - a lightweight moulded shin pad in my case, but I feel I must speak up in doogence of Tony Deefan. It's not fair to harp on about how your favourite band has always done things their own way and then as soon as you don't like something, blame it on someone else, usually the producer. Besides, up until the last album, Tony Doogan was credited for RECORDING the records, not PRODUCING them. Now he is listed as co-producer with Belle and Sebastian themselves. I don't know, but I think it's incorrect to describe him as some kind of dandified technocrat flitting from group to group saying "Hmmm.....strings! I want more strings!" Perhaps he just puts his technical know-how at the service of others and patiently moulds sounds to fit their own delusions, if delusions they are. I personally would like to hear more strings, like on "Silver" by Echo and the Bunnymen. Weren't Pink Floyd produced by Joe Boyd? Wasn't he Nick Drake's producer? Don't we like Nick Drake? That reformed Beatles recording wasn't produced by George Martin, it was produced by Jeff Lynne, that's one of the reasons why it sounds crap. Now I love ELO as much as the rest of you, but that was Sir George's gig, poor old sod. Still, he got his revenge with the "In My Life" LP featuring Sir Tommy Connery and Ace Ventura, Pet Detective. I realise the above argument has more holes in it than Jeff Lynne's remarkable brummie afro hairdo, but I just wanted to say THREE CHEERS FOR TONY DOOGAN. And Bev Bevan, mates with Jasper Carrot. Geezer Butler was mates with Andy Gray. That's why he went to Wolves, because he thought they sounded vaguely satanic. I was mortified at the time, but I'm alright NOooooooOOOoooooow. And on that note, Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sidney.reilly at xxx.net Sat Jul 8 12:13:51 2000 From: sidney.reilly at xxx.net (HopelesslySmitten) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 12:13:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Find that e-mail address on the Sinister website Message-ID: <005301bfe8cd$99ac2a40$7f8e01d5@oemcomputer> For all those people who loss e-mail addresses, or never knew them, of list members - it may be quicker to either 1. if you know part of the address - got to the "crush" page and scan down for "search e-mail address" or 2. if you don't know any part of the address go to the search page and enter the list members name under the author search and this will give you one of their messages which will also give you their e-mail address +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Sat Jul 8 14:09:28 2000 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 14:09:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Careful with those boots, Sergei! Message-ID: <80256916.0049A210.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Brian says his life is laughing children and zippers. Cripes! I knew this list was full of freaks, but isn't that a bit beyond the pale? Did you know that as late as the early 80s there was a fairly high-profile paedophilic lobby in the UK, campaigning for consensual sex between children and adults to be decriminalised? Several left-wing and libetarian figures lent their support to the cause. I found this out recently, looking through an old cuttings file and was rather taken aback at the pace of attitudinal change. The Russians have invented petrol powered boots! Have a look for yourself at http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/820000/video/_823846_duncankennedy1325_7jul_vi.ram Only the high risk of broken ankles and irreperable knee ligament damage can stop them revolutionising life as we know it! The unspeakable mindmonkey's identity is indeed intriguing. More intriguing still is that they have had to choose 'mindmonkey1' as their excite username. Someone has already nabbed 'mindmonkey'?? Crazy times. > What is the opinion of Stephen 'I used to be called Tintin' Duffy I dunno. I would imagine there is more than one. People used to talk about him in the 'earlier, funny' days of Sinister* (~) quite a lot, when they were taking a break from being earlier and funny. Following my disgust at being invited to kiss him with my mouth, it somehow seeped into my consciousness in about 1989 that Duffy was now to be taken seriously, and I made a note to buy the first Lilac Time album. But then I didn't and it was soon deleted and I refused to buy any later ones on the grounds that I had meant to buy the first one and I wasn't going to settle for some johnny-come-lately second or third one, even if they were better. I looked on the excellent http://www.gemm.com * for a second-hand copy recently but discovered that about $30 was the going price. There, admission of residual, bloodyminded, misplaced music snobbery over. I like the idea of Steve Kado refusing to talk about the Floyd anymore. For me, it's the tired old thing of pop fandom involving drawing fairly arbitary lines in the sand and saying 'no, I will not investigate this any further'. No matter how many times people tell me that 'Dark Side of the Moon' is a heavy influence on 'The Virgin Suicides' I won't be buying it. I want Air in my life but I don't want 1970s Pink Floyd. It's got a lot to do with where I perceive a fanbase to be. If all those boring 50 year olds and geeks at school tell me something's great I don't want to have anything to do with it. Unless there are a significant number of people I respect also like it. Call me childish. Call me a sheep. Call me a childish sheep. Just call me, OK? On a more reasoned point, I suppose I do categorise Radiohead and Pink Floyd as attempts at the epic and grandiose, and that immediately turns me off. Yes, Radiohead may well be concerned with representing the complexities of Thom Yorke's emotional existence, but he does it in such a way that just makes me feel embarrassed at the idea that someone might catch me listening to it and imagine that I'm 'feeling his pain'. If I want grand emotions on a record I'll listen to soul. And if I want an investigation of life's complexities I'll read a novel. Just save me from 'deep' indie music. Colin wrote: > I've been thinking a lot about Struan's distaste for > If Your Feeling Sinister.  His discomfort with the > album's effect has denied us live versions of "Dylan in > the Movies" and "Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying", > and all the other good tracks. I've noticed that there > aren't even any videos from Sinister.  I wonder what > the big deal is...they are good songs. They surely are. In that piece, Stuart said he thought the songs on IYFS were the best he's ever written. What he *didn't* like was the way they were recorded. I blame Tony Doogan. I guess the reason for the lack of videos is that no singles come off the albums. It's only since TWATTYBUS that they've started doing the odd promo for album tracks. And they played both the songs you mention on their last tour. > Wish me luck!  I'm auditioning for survivor.  If I make > the cut then I'll do my best to advertise Belle and > Sebastian by humming their tunes in the Australian Outback. God help us if there's a war. N. x * a fantastically simple example of what e-commerce should be about, linking the stock lists of hundreds of second-hand record shops together to one searchable database, much like http://www.abebooks.com does for booksellers. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pixiemeat2 at xxx.com Sat Jul 8 15:36:42 2000 From: pixiemeat2 at xxx.com (Helen) Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 14:36:42 GMT Subject: Sinister: with your junior light-sabre. Message-ID: <20000708143642.20255.qmail@hotmail.com> hmmm, I have had many listens to FYHCYWLAP, and inadvertantly making various members of my family listen as well, on an 8 hour car trip to a funeral; "i'm driving so i get to damn well listen to what i want", (needless to say i drove for as long as my eyes could be forcibly pinned open, so as to avoid tedious hours of god knows what skeletons are sitting in my parents musical closet) so for my two cents/pence/local monetary unit, i do think that 'the model', 'i fought in a war' and 'there's too much love' are definately the highlights. And there is a soft spot in my heart for 'woman's realm' as well - i like the bit at the end where there are two different singing parts going on. And family tree is so bloody catchy, which is a shame for me because i actually don't really like it all that much. Except for the way that isobelle says stupid. Chalet lines, i often have to skip, and not because i don't like the song, mind, its just a little too depressing sometimes. And that segue with 'nice day for i sulk' i have to agree is kind of awkward. Sorry am I just repeating stuff thats been said much better before? I apologise. Actually i have been told that i apologise too much. so i don't then. there :) did i hear someone say pink floyd? Well i cat i know called pink is having some kittens , and yes, you guessed it the father is Floyd. If anyone wants a kitten, apparently the "piper at the gates of dawn" is already taken, but "The Wall" they'll probably have trouble getting rid of, but anyhow both names would make for some hilarious conversations around the house. Personally I think those kittens would be the best thing to come out of pink floyd in years. actually at all...;) anyhow, better go now before i say something that'll get me beaten up. Helen. *and yes the subject line is what i thought a line from Le Pastie, was originally.....hmmm, missed marketing opportunity if you ask me, think of all the sinister kids wanting junior light-sabre's to go with their original tigermilk and complete cd/vinyl collections. Jeepster, B&S and George Lucus must be kicking themselves. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sat Jul 8 16:33:40 2000 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 08:33:40 PDT Subject: Sinister: nebulous nubile nymphs Message-ID: <20000708153340.74889.qmail@hotmail.com> Nubile: physically well-developed and sexually attractive but still young.List favourite Christina Ricci has been described as nubile. I can easily imagine Struan being surrounded by nubile supermodels(or dancing nymphs,if you prefer)like those Brazilian superstars,Gisele and Princess Honey,with their windswept tresses,endless sunkissed thighs and heaving bosoms. I'm going to have to stop writing heaving and bosom all the time on this list.I've used it far too much already.But what sounds better? Trembling,quivering,swelling? >what is all this crap about there being B&S videos at icrunch.com, huh? Gah! It's not crap.I wouldn't lie to you sinisterines: http://www.belleandsebastian.icrunch.com/ Ok,from now on lets discuss the songs we love/hate the most but we have to back it up with reason and this should all be done in the form of a poem.This reminds me of English class."You simply can't say you love or hate the book.You have to say why.Respond to it.Let those feelings out." I will do next time. Andy wrote: >Now hold on a minute! I wont have anyone having a pop at Isobel, I >happen >to think that naked, big bums are the best! I do like a girl >with a bit >of a belly....its so womanly! Now come on,was I having a pop at Isobel? I called her delicious!Truthfully,I haven't yet had the pleasure of seeing this sumptuous behind that everyone talks about so much.It's still just one BIG fantastic mystery to me. Since the FISHYCLAP reviews have been running out,why don't we just review what everyone wants to,deep down inside? I bet you could bounce a coin off of Struans. (Ahh yes,now I see why I didn't get any replies from MY fanmail.He think's I'm weird ,doesn't he!when all I ever wanted was to be able to admire. Sob! Struanne,my cruel temptress of the night)I'm jealous.Rachel,you lucky girl! And purple calligraphy to top it all off! Ok,I am in love with coloured pens,especially silver ink on black paper.They should be used more often.Lovingly handwritten...mmm..email is a frigid ice queen...I can't believe that Saucy Pole Dancin' Mark wrote to them too.And a poem.I am amazed.I'm sure everyone in the world has gotten a reply except me. Now I am going to fling myself upon my bed,sob into my pillows and cry out how unfair life is. Yes,lets discuss tennis.Well,the interesting stuff behind the actual games,anyways.I can't believe my Papa actually prefers Martina to Anna.I love Anna Kournikova,and she dates all those hot older hockey players.She's just what a teenage starlet should be like..can you imagine her as captain of the cheerleading squad? She'd kick you in the shins and go 'Oops..I must have slipped!' while running off with your boyfriend. Congratulations Venus though,she's so joyful! No gigs till 2001? That seems so very far away.I have NOT YET SEEN BELLE AND SEBASTIAN play live and I am beginning to think I never will until 40 years from now I'll catch them on the Oldie's night at the racetrack. with love, Genevieve p.s I'm sorry Andy,I don't look like Isobel but maybe I can rustle up that surgeon's mask she wore in those 'back in the day' press shots and you'll hardly know the difference. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mindmonkey1 at xxx.com Sat Jul 8 17:21:58 2000 From: mindmonkey1 at xxx.com (ineffable) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: dark arts Message-ID: <19333232.963073318449.JavaMail.imail@almond.excite.com> Well - a productive day or two. I am on-call healing the sick but since my last posting one of my spiritual brothers has worked out who I am (not hard as he recommended the list) and my winged eldritch servants have told me a little of the identity of Monsignor Trouse. From what I hear any misunderstanding/comparison I take as a compliment - although I am still unsure how the confusion arose. Hey ho. _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Sat Jul 8 18:13:24 2000 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 13:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: her summer novel Message-ID: yesterday i had an impulse to listen to The Boy With the Arab Strap. i wasted words putting it down. it's just right for summer, like ice tinkling in a glass, then the glass sweats a little and you're listenening to Seymour Stein, then you're crunching ice on Dirty Dream #2, then you're a bit tight (faux anglais) on The Boy With the Arab Strap dancing wildly on the verandah to the sound of cicadas (the influence of L. Alder). i don't know if it's the production B & S decided upon, but the effect of this record is subtler than previous stuff, and Fold Your Hands Child You Walk Like A Peasant puts it in context: the way a watercolor with the color practically washed out stands out next to a rich oil painting. it's the way stinging tears seem inappropriate in gorgeous summer weather - golden sand grains stuck between your toes and light reflecting off the ocean - until you start to wonder what it was all about. but all that is a dream. i'm in a darkened room with the curtain drawn against the glaring sun. LC got the words to 2cv a bit wrong at the concert. i can't imagine a London sun being cruel though, nothing like here. when things happen for the first time they're more likely to surprise you in an obvious way; Tigermilk and If You're Feeling Sinister seem right for that, but strings and crescendos seem right for driving in the pouring rain, for when your mental life is separate and your actions are subdued. for a man to like children, does he have to be a paedophile? maybe the combination of zippers and children sounds unusual, but it's out of context. unless everyone is smirking again as they're writing, or it's just a easy hook in a campaign against tenderness. a woman with child-bearing hips and a man who can be tender without being a sop, how out-of-fashion! a while back mouche wrote: Just a brief note to leap to the defence of Electronic Renaissance. It gorgeous! The synthesizers sort of sound like... smiles breaking out all over the place. I love that. D'you know Synthstrument by Lou Barlow? It's that kind of sound. Lovely kodakcolor sunshine. sorry to go on about this again, but it was exciting to read this cos i think i hear the part he's talking about in the same way. imagine time-lapse photography of flowers blooming to that sound. yours, youn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DelyM2 at xxx.com Sun Jul 9 02:15:14 2000 From: DelyM2 at xxx.com (DelyM2 at xxx.com) Date: Sun Jul 09 02:15:14 2000 Subject: Sinister: Deep Pop Music Message-ID: <200007090614.HAA18244@missprint.org> I work at a movie theater, and tonight my job was to pop popcorn in the upstairs room. Anyway, there's a CD player up there and i brought along Bright Eyes and A Modern Rock Song to accompany me. This kid i Work with noticed the Belle and Sebastian CD and got really excited because he thought it had something to do with Sebastian Bach from Skid Row. For the most part no one else was upstairs with me, but every once in a while someone comes up there on their brake or for whatever. Some of my co workers were a bit rude about not recognising the music. They were making a big fuss that they never heard it before and that it sounded like folk music or something. Then again... I work at a movie theater. I really have nothing more to say, and my words are not very colorful. so.. so long +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JBaze at xxx.com Sun Jul 9 07:22:03 2000 From: JBaze at xxx.com (Josh Baze) Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 01:22:03 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #208 (Josh Baze Out of Office) Message-ID: Hello: I am out of the office from Monday 7/10, not returning until Thursday 7/13. I will not be able to check my email or voice mail messages, but will reply to you as soon as possible on 7/13. If this matter requires urgent attention, please contact Sean Beste or Lane Bartram. They will be able to help you. Thanks. Josh +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From julesmarkham at xxx.net Sun Jul 9 10:37:27 2000 From: julesmarkham at xxx.net (julesmarkham) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:37:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I always cry at endings... Message-ID: <001e01bfe989$639406a0$fc448cd4@tonygeorge> hey cardie-wearers, well I'm back from my week away at the lakes with Eric, confused as ever as to where we stand. are we just friends, or is it something more? i really do not know. on the train back to Newcastle he held my hand so tightly, and when we finally parted company I could only bow my head and cry. I always cry at endings... he still phones me every day. he says he loves me, but couldn't ever be in a relationship. i don't know, I'm tired and fucked up I guess Julesx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nik_ovenden at xxx.com Sun Jul 9 15:18:18 2000 From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 07:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Finkus Dinkus and other obscure comments...my condensed thoughts for you all Message-ID: <20000709141818.26593.qmail@web2106.mail.yahoo.com> Hey all you beautiful kids, In keeping with my style of waiting for 150 emails to accumulate and replying at least 2 months after everyone else to a particular subject, i thought it was time to grace you all (hah, like anyone reads this stuff) with my condensed thoughts: I bought FISHYCLAP yesterday. Thats right, the 8th july. Thats's right, over 1 month after it was released. i didnt have any money! yeah, like you'd believe that, you just think i'm lazy. anyway, i love it. IYFS and TBWTAS both took a while for me to get into. in fact, 'strap still is. Odd. so, by your (general term for all of you who didnt like it at first listen) rationelle, should i like it less and less as i listen to it? like an inverse b&s fan? well, i wear black and am into slipknot...he he, not really. yuk. sill masked buggers. I bet that they used to hang around in pubs, saying "yeah, we're musicians" and cos they didnt get appreciated, they put some masks on. without the masks, they obviously wouldnt be popular (even if those fans are pre-pubescent, pseudo-angsty bozos). sorry, i digress. yeah, i love fishyclap. it's great. i'm not even goig to try and find fault in it. i dont want to rate it. Now, the Chalet Lines. I'm not going to put in my full 2 cents/opinion/other metaphor, since i have one small fault. i havent been raped, nor do i know anyone who has. to offer my opinion would be useless. all i know is Stu wished to either a)be controversial, or b) was singing personally (either as victim, or associate of victim). My only opinion on rape is that those who commit it should be at best, jailed for life, if not castrated. This may seem excessive, but it think that t is worse than murder, simply because it must ruin the victim's lives. Am i right? sorry if there are people out there who disagree, but i think it is inhuman. what scares me more is that all of us men have the ability to commit rape. i never would, but i honestly get scared that i could, and more frequently than a healthy human should. Electronic Renaissance: i love this song. at first i didn't, but tigermilk is my favourite album because i love each and every song on it. i can understand why people hate it and why some love it. I'm not going to convince you all one way or the other. don't you hate bloody liberals? ;) (sorry, that's the first and last time i use one of those sodding faces. i hate them, i do) Pink floyd. I love them too. innovation is one of a prog-rock band's key attributes (hence the prog- bit). pink floyd have this. However, i like the more traditional songs. 'Wish You Were Here' is my favourite song. i cant listen to it without going shivery. You know how you have songs, films, things which make you do that? they make you glad to be alive. thanks to pixiedust for bringing it up. i get to talk how i love floyd. somehow, i dont think a radiohead/pumpkins talk will spring up... you're bound to get differences with 1300+ members, i just love the way that you all reason. Anyone here been to the ooberman website? the message board here is the 13-15yr old pathetic areguments version of this site. Their arguing pisses me off. your arguments feel better. I love you all. Sorry for droning on, Love Niko xxx "I'm gonna meltdown" - 'Black Star', radiohead. Did thom have premonitions of playing the festival hall on july 1st 2000, 6 years before 'the bends'? i think so. PS is it worth puttin on a sini- edinburgh/reading group? i need to meet some people, it's like a giant game of 'Blind Date', without the failing romances... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From smiley at xxx.uk Sun Jul 9 17:59:25 2000 From: smiley at xxx.uk (Mr Smiley) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 17:59:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: SHEFFIELD PICNIC. Hop, skip or jump if you don't care. Message-ID: <004701bfe9c7$3c116580$4280883e@freeserve.co.uk> Hello, After much indecision, mostly on my part I confess, the details of the Sheffield Sinister picnic can now be revealed. Ready? OK. Place. Endcliffe Park, Sheffield. Meet at entrance. There's some big gate type things. If you haven't a clue where Endcliffe Park is or you don't know how to get there, there's a load of maps at http://www.shef.ac.uk/travel/maps.html. If you get lost, or if you turn up late and we've all moved off somewhere, ring my mobile on 07961 546354 somehow and I'll laugh at you. Erm, no apparently I'm not allowed to laugh at you. Apparently I have to go and hold your hand and show you where we all are :) Time. Saturday 15th July, 2pm... nuff said. Other. People should bring food and/or amusing things to occupy an afternoon. But if it rains we're going to the pub. So hopefully I'll see you some of you there. And don't any of you even *dare* to think about going to the London picnic instead, on the same day :) Mike :o) For even more confusing gibberish email me at smiley at rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk or Katy D at jellybabs at hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From porterww at xxx.edu Sun Jul 9 21:08:39 2000 From: porterww at xxx.edu (Will Porter) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 15:08:39 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: Out, out brief candle Message-ID: Last night, a girl that I knew died. She lived across the street from me from 6th grade until we graduated high school. She and I never really got along, but our mothers are friends. She was my age. That's the first thing my mother said after she told my sister: "She was Willy's age." My mother and some family members who were around when I was born still call me Willy sometimes, especially when they're too busy with grief or some other consuming feeling to think that I haven't really been called Willy for quite some years. She was on the way to a wedding when she died. I couldn't help thinking about the cruel juxtaposition of matrimonial joy and premature death. It has been a bad week. 7 days ago, my nephews' grandfather (which is to say my sister's father-in-law) also died. 2 days before that an old friend of my mother's died. I really haven't got anything to say about Belle and Sebastian. I was hoping that writing this down might make me feel a little less like I am going to fall apart. will +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Jul 9 21:53:20 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 21:53:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: No Gigs till 2001!! Message-ID: <000401bfe9e7$dcfabbc0$4252073e@default> Hi Hundreds and Thousands, SADNESS/NOSTALGIA/LONGING I just ploughed through 7 digests & the saddest thing by far in all of them was Katrina's throw-away comment. Wasn't the last B&S concert on 28.04.99? So probably at least two years before the next one happens? And at present rate maybe 18 months before another record release. Bugger. I think the list will face a few challenges in remaining on topic for the foreseeable future, unless the Glasgie Sinister massive send in a report of every sighting: M&S checkout queue, clubbing, urinal comparison stories, anything will do, please. SET THE CONTROLS FOR THE HEART OF YOUR BUM Personally I think the Floyd lost it with Dark Side Of The Moon. "Meaningful" lyrics AND, God help them, a saxophone! Give me that earlier innocent spacy psychedelic claptrap any day. The Genius Producer that followed in Joe Boyd's footsteps when he went off to form Witchseason was Norman Smith, who certainly put his innovative sound techniques to good use as Hurricane Smith with a couple of pop hits in the 70's, including the inspiring Oh Babe What Would You Do (or something similar) LEXICON OF LURVE I hate to correct Miss Wesley but nubile means marriageable (from the Latin nubere: to wear a veil) Do surgical masks count? Could that be where the voluptuous confusion crept in? THY ROD AND THY STAFF COMFORT ME As a sort of homage to Hairy Cave Man (Andy, where are you?) I'd like to point out to Colin Thornton that his two songs figured on set lists from at least 4 gigs (Barcelona, London (Shepherds Bush), Brussels & Washington DC.) SHAMELESS PLUG (II) Sorry, no list connection whatsoever (except maybe for sadness, etc., see above), but take a listen to the Saint Low album (more info here: http://www.cookingvinyl.com/saintlow/index.html because its great - 7 out of 12 excellent songs, one of which an absolute heart-breaker (Walk On By - not the old standard, but her own song. Even a bit Stina Nordenstam-like. But brilliant nevertheless :) ) Mary Lorson has an superb voice, singing of loss, rejection, betrayal, but without any rancour so its very positive & well, life affirming. MUZAK In a car showroom the other day I was freaked by them playing a track from Love's Forever Changes album. So I bought a car. MR ANGEL BLACKWELL The value of your shares can go up as well as down. Have a nice week, Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From imn_uk at xxx.uk Sun Jul 9 22:17:11 2000 From: imn_uk at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?ian=20nicolson?=) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 22:17:11 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: they say damp records the past Message-ID: <20000709211711.24170.qmail@web4305.mail.yahoo.com> people don't write much on sundays, i've noticed of late. maybe you're all strict presbyterains, faithfully observing the sabbath. is there a large sinister community in the outer hebrides? and wouldn't it be wonderful if there was? or maybe you're all out playing, or in bed recovering from wild weekends n'all that stuff. i think that's maybe more likely. i'm not sure if those wonderfully hard-working souls out there would agree with me, but all this doing nothing that i've been up to recently is getting a bit tiring. maybe i should take up a hobby. something practical, that may prove useful in later life, like fencing or archery. but there's not much call for professional swordsmen these days. which is a shame. or maybe i should look for a job... but i can't complain, i guess, seeing as i've been camping out at the major festivals this summer. me, in a tent, in the back garden with a telly watching glastonbury *and* t in the park, it's such fun. with my neighbourhood schemies slashing my tent open and stealing my stuff, and next doors dog pissing on me when i'm sleeping, it's just as good as being there...t in the park worries me, though. i've never been there myself, but from watching it on telly and from what people have told me, there *does* seem to be a rather large schemie contingent in attendance. and they seem to like ocean colour scene very much. run away, children... but i hope those of you who were there enjoyed yourselves anyway. apparently my university has decided to give me a degree, which i guess i should be happy about. but it a really crap degree from a really crap university, so it's difficult to get excited. and i didn't get very good marks, which i suppose is the result of abject laziness. but it's always good to know that i *could* have done better. it also means that i'll have to get my hair cut and buy a suit before i graduate on thursday so that my folks can tell me how smart i look in the photos, which is a bit of a drag. i wonder how far into 2001 these b+s gigs will be. early summer? late summer? to coincide with the release of the new album in 2002? i just can't help thinking it's going to be the same old story. (sorry for that uncondonable use of cliche). and, oh, record production, a serious debate! surely not? what's happening to you people?! but, yeh, i don't know much about these thing (i'm ignorant, me...) just how they sound. and the record i like the sound of the most is IFYS, which i'm sure either people in the band or on the list have said they don't like the production of. it's somehow glassy and distant, like from a timeless kinda era, but intimate at the same time. that sounds a bit spazzy, doesn't it? and a bit wanky. sorry. i'll get me coat... luv and kisses ian n ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From FakingUpARampage at xxx.com Mon Jul 10 05:40:27 2000 From: FakingUpARampage at xxx.com (FakingUpARampage at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 00:40:27 EDT Subject: Sinister: john jacob jingle heimerschmitt... Message-ID: <90.6d42906.269aadbb@aol.com> hello dearies... paul said: > On that occasion we established that some of us actually *are* faux-British. ya know what i once did? i claimed to be canadian. for some reason, i have an obsession with the great white north ::sighs::... i want to be canadian when i grow up. not just a citizen, but someone with canadian lineage and everything. i have some sort of weird fascination with them. i got contacts today. i'm not having any trouble with them really, other then they feel so damn weird. i dont know if i like it or not. i'll find out tomorrow when i wear them for longer, and try to actually function. katrina mentioned that there wont be any tour dates till 2001... but!!! do said tour dates in 2001 include a skip to the states? ::looks hopeful:: I WANNA SEE BELLE AND SEBASTIAN BEFORE I DIE!!! granted, that wont be for many many years... but, i thought i would stress it. sorry for yelling i wrote that stuff a few days ago. a moth just attacked me. now you're up to speed. and.. get this... someone voted for me for list crush. how oddly divine is that? i just looked at that lil message from misscrush again, and now i'm in such a good mood which is good since today has been a pretty bad day. but i wont get into that. but.. yes.. thankyou crush person!! : ) but... i wanna know who!!! tho i think i might have an idea.. but.. i wanna know who!! jules... hoping that you are feeling better. i've been in the same place as you... not the same place.. but similar... and i know how you feel. i'm sure that most everyone on the list knows how you feel. but i wanted to vocalize it. but you know that you arent alone... i have 2 questions now. remember when someone posted that lil postcard from jeepster, that said that they were tearing down the church that belle and sebby recorded in? is this the same church that stuart janitors in? (or am i just gullible to believe a story that you all are snickering about saying "its not true!! hahah!! its not true!" -- tho i would like to think it is)... and if so... then where will he live? if he wants to move to new jersey, i have a spare room.. but i doubt that. and i dont know how my family would take to it either. and i would prolly feel weird playing any of the albums. but it would be worth it. second question -- now that you all have helped me properly idenitify winter wooskie... i have to identify the song that a friend gave me which was labled as winter wooskie. it is described as follows -- repeats the word 'landslide' alot, isobelle sings lead, with sarah in the background, and i believe there are alot of chimes. is this one of those covers that someone had mentioned not so far back? third question - apple butter. does it count as a source of fruit? this really has nothing to do with anything, but i was pondering it this morning. because orange juice counts as fruit.. and peanut butter counts as protein.. so whats apple butter? i actually have a fourth question, but i'll save that for next time :) you really dont need to answer that if you dont want. you being each and every one of you. i almost hate to think that i'm burdening about 1400 folk with this babble.. but ya know what? i'm sorry. off to... do something else. xoxox Jes +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cellophanesky at xxx.com Mon Jul 10 06:33:43 2000 From: cellophanesky at xxx.com (Brian Pennington) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 01:33:43 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Apple Butterless Message-ID: Hello, I would like to start out by saying that apple butter is one of the most delicious substances on earth. I think it should count as a fruit! There are real apples in there, if you get the good stuff. The good stuff, as I've found, is in jars hawked by various organizations every year at the West Virginia state arts & crafts fair, which I unfortunately managed to forget about this year, and am therefore apple butterless, which is a terrible thing. Speaking of West Virginia, I went to a luau here (aka party with lots of booze and a vague Hawaiian theme) and so many people commented on my TWATTYBUS shirt! I had no idea they had managed to infiltrate the hollers and valleys and cricks of West Virginia so fully. Well, some of the luau-goers were from off in Virginia somewhere, so I guess they don't count, but one or two of those people I think were genuine West Virginians. To make things stranger our local entertainment newspaper reviewed the new album. I won't give the review to you all though because I'm sick of the things. After having been in a play version of The Wall (I did it because I liked the director/cast) and been the ass/judge at the end, I'd like to say that I can't stand most Pink Floyd. There are a few songs I enjoy though, but mostly only when sung by a chorus of teenagers in various harmonics. Getting to scream things at an audience is rather fun as well. Oh, and interestingly enough, my friend informed me that another name for an Arab Strap is a 'Scrunchy.' Not to be confused with the kind you use to keep your hair in a ponytail. Don't ask me how she knew that. Speaking of sexual perversion, I would like to take a moment to explain that when I said my life was children and zippers rather than strings and crescendos, I didn't necessarily mean children and zippers had to go hand in hand. I am not a member of NAMBLA! So, I'm going to take my leave, but before I go I'd like to leave you all with some words of wisdom. Those being: Always wear your B&S shirts. You never know who you might meet...but hopefully they will all be over the age of 18. -- Brian Pennington, aka Mick McMick | cellophanesky at mac.com | ICQ# 39021436 Sandcastle Records: the Cellophane Sky: "Better a tear of truth than smiling lies." - Duncan Browne +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From t_ells at xxx.com Mon Jul 10 07:30:38 2000 From: t_ells at xxx.com (tim ellsworth) Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 23:30:38 PDT Subject: Sinister: the childhood of a leader Message-ID: <20000710063038.69381.qmail@hotmail.com> i just finished reading the last story in jean paul sartre's the wall titled: the chilhood of a leader. it was disturbing like the others but i couldn't tell if the character Lucien was a reference to Hitler's childhood. what made the first impression was the Oediapus complex Lucien claimed to have in order to win the friendship of Berliac. I remember watching a documentary on Hitler in my high school history class and something was mentioned about him having that complex. Also i don't think Hitler was always anti semetic like Lucien. it doesn't really matter either way i suppose, but i just finished reading it and i'm a little curious. i know it's been out for a while now but has anyone heard the new e.p. from stereolab, the first of the microbe hunters? it's some of their weaker material in my opinion. ( i know, nobody asked)the only good songs are the first and third. the rest are just there i guess, they have no real impact. my favorite so far is cobra and phases play voltage in the milky night. it has such a great title, i love using it to describe a prior night: we danced into the milky night or something like that. the eigth song is my favorite though, it reminds me of this commercial for these star wars legos that you can build to make robots that actually move. in the commercial this boy comes into his room and flips on his light nad its like a disco with all these droids dancing to this funky song that sounds like the afore mentioned song. everytime i hear it i wish i had a bunch of those robots dancing around me. i found out those legos are upwards of about $100 and i factored the time spent building them multiplied by my lack of success with mechanical objects and decided that it was too much. that would be a rad tour though, b&s, with stereolab and maybe arab strab in between. that's it then, tim ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nereusabe at xxx.com Mon Jul 10 07:31:47 2000 From: nereusabe at xxx.com (M Styer) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 02:31:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: And I went lookin' for my darlin..... Message-ID: <386257996.963210707146.JavaMail.root@web595-ec.mail.com> Hello Everyone- I'm just posting to ask for advice, and possibly to start a conversation. I'm compiling a list of the most approachable B+S songs. I may finally be able to answer the time old question, "What kind of music do you listen to?," without scaring people off ("Oh...it's...ah....er, interesting, yeah"). Almost, if you will, a greatest hits. So far: Expectations My Wandering Days are Over (I'm not sure) Lazy Line Painter Jane The State That I Am in Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie (maybe at the end, for the strongest of the weak people) Me and the Major The Boy with the Arab Strap (I know my friends won't understand it, I am barely able to. The Boy W/ the strap is one of Struan's friends, right?) Don't Leave the Light on, Baby (especially the "It's been a bloody stupid day") That is it so far. You may be asking yourself, "Self...it looks like he has gotten the list, so why is he posting?" I know that I have become too partial to know which songs are the most approachable. If any of you have any stories/suggestions on which were your favorite songs at first listen, please post. Thanks Farewell Miles P.S.- This is the young, American boy talking, not the B+S fan. I'm interested in getting a cd by The Magnetic Fields, and I don't know where to begin. Which one should I get first? ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Mon Jul 10 13:12:29 2000 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:12:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: T in the Park Message-ID: <00a301bfea68$25e49920$1f8c183e@default> Highlights of the weekend: Meeting up with tons of my friends. Crowdsurfing to Iggy Pop - the man has remarkable power for his age. The singing of total nonsense songs on the way back to our respective lifts. My friend Andrew's sheer exuberant enthusiasm when he came from the Leftfield/Carl Cox set. The Elvis Cleaning Co. Her from Chewing The Fat. Seeing Soulwax (with the mighty Casio guitar playing the Star Wars theme) for the third time. Karn giving me a thimbs up during the Looper set. All the bands I saw being totally storming. Lows: The weather. The prices. The huge mudbath that the whole place became. The two hours wandering around in the cold and wet mud trying to locate Andrew's dad before *both* our batteries ran out on our mobiles. Muse being moved to clash with Travis. Death in Vegas, Day One and Soulwax all clashing. Being forced to drink Diet Irn Bru when the stalls ran out of regular. The huge holes in my boots that turned my feet all squelchy. All in all, the music totally won the day - it's the most fun I've had in a while, and I'm definately going back next year if money allows it. --Jason Andreas If nice guys finish last, then I'll never finish at all... ICQ: 45821217 AIM: RadioJase +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Frederic.Meysonnet at xxx.net Mon Jul 10 13:22:49 2000 From: Frederic.Meysonnet at xxx.net (Frederic.Meysonnet at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:22:49 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Ratcatcher Message-ID: bonjour especialamente to glasgowians, In 1998, Lynne Ramsay made a film about childhood, glasgow, poverty, rape, bus stops, the hope to live a better life. It was Ratcatcher. Deeply sad, you might see it. Does someone think of what could be our sinister films clearing ? I bet you can add to ratcatcher both trust from hartley and dream life of angels from zonca. Freddo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david at xxx.uk Mon Jul 10 13:28:44 2000 From: david at xxx.uk (David White) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:28:44 +0100 (GMT/BST) Subject: Sinister: Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:06:13 +0100 Message-ID: M Styer wrote: >The Boy with the Arab Strap (I know my friends won't understand it, I am >barely able to. The Boy W/ the strap is one of Struan's friends, right?) I'm pretty sure The Boy With The Arab Strap is about Aiden Moffat, singer with Arab Strap. You can read more at www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk at the discography. All this talk about Pink Floyd. I actually like the Floyd, well some of their stuff. I don't think much of the psychadelic stuff, it's a bit too wierd and the stuff after the Wall is all a bit 'old men trying to relive former glories' but the early 70's stuff in particular is good. They did one soundtrack album in the early 70s, the name of which I have forgotten, and it is excellent, sounds very much like Air. I'd actually never made the connection between Pink Floyd and Air until somebody mentioned it the other day. As for the production, I remember the other year when Channel 4 did the top 100 albums of the millenium (I guess it must have been last year), and Dark Side Of The Moon made it to the top 5, and one of the critics made the point that it was the most modern sounding album of a top 10 which featured 2 Radiohead albums, Oasis, Stone Roses and a few other modern ones. I reckon that's a pretty accurate statement and a fairly sad reflection on the state of modern music (B&S apart!). Brian Pennington wrote: >After having been in a play version of The Wall... What a scary thought! The film was the biggest pile of art wank I have ever seen. The music is fine, excellent in places, shite in others but I thought the film was bollocks. I reckon the Simpsons starring in The Wall would have been excellent, a trip through Homer Simpsons fucked up mind, hmmm doughnuts... On that note, I'm going to get some food. Dave david at belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk Visit the site www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Mon Jul 10 13:48:49 2000 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (adventures as an angel) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:48:49 EDT Subject: Sinister: stockwell day wins Message-ID: <20000710124849.27368.qmail@hotmail.com> i read the funniest thing this morning... f%^KINGuParAMPAGE said that they wished they were canadian...i have never seen or heard that utterance in my little life. well, you're on your way to being canadian: we all wish we were something other than what we were born. if you wanna see faux-british come out with me one night. little boys/girls dressing up and dancing how they think the british should be, problem is their perception of british comes from quadraphenia (however one spells it) and gregory's girl. now i'm included in this little group of posseurs...i have a lot of old pics of my parents during their mod days...mr kado made fun of my hair the other week cuz i'd brushed it all down (he's used to seeing me in full flamer style)...we all just wanna be pretty. ummm...i'm not gonna hit on the boss' son...you can look all young and innocent, but in talking to him, i've realized that he his young and innocent...i'm now officially a dirty old man...plus it was all fantasy, i already have my own dirty old man... b&s not touring until forever...oh well, i guess i'll just hafta go out and get myself a tragically hip ticket...i now own 2 7"ers and still haven't listened to them, why you ask? i don't own decks of any sort...my little sister offered me her mickey mouse record player. i think i'll hafta settle for that system, i really wanna hear tompaulin...to the person who was compiling a list of the most approachable b&s tunes...hmmm...our favourite band is very hard to describe isn't it...i've stopped trying...you really do hafta just play it for your friends... well, i'm off to configure my palm pilot...heehee love the way that sounds... the angel blackwell ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geishalass at xxx.com Mon Jul 10 14:17:02 2000 From: geishalass at xxx.com (Red Geisha) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:17:02 EDT Subject: Sinister: stockwell day wins Message-ID: <20000710131702.3347.qmail@hotmail.com> >i read the funniest thing this morning... >f%^KINGuParAMPAGE said that they wished they were canadian...i have never >seen or heard that utterance in my little life. Anywhere I travel people always tell me that! Canada is an incredible country we're very lucky. In other major cities you'd be lucky if you could meet people as easily as you do here...perhaps with the exception of California. >if you wanna see faux-british come out with me one night. little boys/girls >dressing up and dancing how they think the british should be, problem is >their perception of british comes from quadraphenia (however one spells it) >and gregory's girl. now i'm included in this little group of posseurs... actually I would discount this entirely. many of the people are very aware of fashion/music and culture and their influence doesn't stem from two films. This band of people in Toronto are some of the best looking and dressed people the world over. Almost all of my friends have varying degree's in the arts/music and could talk to you for hours about influence and aesthetic. I've been to London and I wish I saw these beauties at Blow-Up London. There is also an excellent mixture of current fashion with old - the post-mod-ernists if you wish. We all "borrow" from cultures how boring would we be otherwise! I recently met someone from Chicago who spent a weekend with us and is now currently searching for a job in Toronto she loved the super community! I'd like to say a big hello to Ken who I had the pleasure of meeting on Friday at Vanity Fair. I promise the night will be huge by August! A huge promo will happen once d & I return from vacation! Vanity Fair is still on and still very free every Friday at the Down One Lounge at 49 Front St. E. chris "every smile is the promise of sex on a sunny day" pastels ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Mon Jul 10 14:52:29 2000 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:52:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: PROG ROCK, MY ARSE! Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69014A3D4F@park_ex> You turn your back for two minutes and look what happens, flipping Pink Floyd everywhere. Now, I'm a reasonable man, most of the time, ask anyone, but i WILL NOT STAND for this kind of talk. Pink Floyd are sad old hippies yer dad liked, they are not for the likes of us, we must point and laugh at their fans and, indeed, at them, should we get the chance. Comfortably numb?? comfortably ARSE, more like. Piper at the gates of dawn?? Piper at the gates of SHITE. And they're responsible for bob geldof, and global warming and england being shite at football probably. If i may go back to Mr Kado's original point: "all that bullshit and bombast makes me ill" That was a partly political broadcast on behalf on the "where the bludy 'ells 'OPKINS when you need 'im" Party. All this talk has obviously warped Dastoor's mind as he asterisked TWO footnotes, and then only gave us ONE (*carsmile has mental image of dastoor giving us all one). I must say those Russian mechanical boots sound ACE, if very scary. Although not as scary as hundreds of lists of second hand records ;) Daf Moore commented on Ms House's news of NO TOUR, and I concur. Now I'll have to find another excuse for spending my redundancy on a trip to new york. Whatever happened to that tribute band that was being planned? Speaking of tribute bands (creaky link ahoy), was anyone else sad enough to be watching "winning lines" on Saturday nite. There was this guy on, and the two questions he got right were on S Club 7 and Lulu, but the funny thing was, you see, he was a METALLER and in a Mettalica tribute band, I laughed, but then my life is short of simple pleasures. I must say, the L*ndon p*cnic seems to be being organised with a touch more continental flair and elan this time. No more hanging around outside tube stations with the 16 year olds looking like we've all been stood up, oh no, this time we have the relaxed sophistication of a proper grown up PUB, although once we're in there whether we can actually be ARSED to walk up the hill remains to be seen, especially if the weather continues like this, ie PISHING down. oh, Edinburgh, 18-23 August, me and the mrs will be visiting for the fringe, anyone about? xoxo CarsmileSteve Oh if anyone is really bored with their summer hols/job/life in general, my mate's just sent me a pop quiz featuring 200 lyrics from 90s songs to be identified, if anyone would like it, please mail me, GRATE fun... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andy_flynnie at xxx.com Mon Jul 10 15:33:10 2000 From: andy_flynnie at xxx.com (Andy Flynn) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:33:10 BST Subject: Sinister: Ahem Message-ID: Arse Biscuits Its Monday and me 'ead is in bits! Weekends and drinking and thinking really can mash your melon good and proper!! I'm stuck in a windowless garage of an office in Twickenham and its pissing down outside. I wanna get out of the city people! I have no news other than I saw my God son (God Son to be)for the first time, and its the first time I've ever felt a flicker of paternal love for a baby. I held him for a good few hours, and me and his father played it B&S and black box recorder full blast and the little neo-nate loved it....well he didn't cry....maybe we just couldn't hear him! So this broodiness is concerning me as thirty looms ever closer! I also met an ex girlfriend who I last spoke to 3 years ago.....that was a weird one.....and before genivieve quips...she looks nothing like isobel...She's gotten far too skinny! But that little meet up severly added to the melon mashing!!...Hmmmm! Hands up who else is tortured today! Bloody work. Back to it I suppose Andy ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rtoad at xxx.net Mon Jul 10 17:04:47 2000 From: rtoad at xxx.net (Rob Lorenson) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:04:47 -0700 Subject: Sinister: the childhood of a leader In-Reply-To: <20000710063038.69381.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <200007101600.JAA16760@goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Tim wrote: > i know it's been out for a while now but has anyone heard the new e.p. from > stereolab, the first of the microbe hunters? it's some of their weaker > material in my opinion. ( i know, nobody asked)the only good songs are the > first and third. the rest are just there i guess, they have no real impact. > my favorite so far is cobra and phases play voltage in the milky night. Really? IMHO, Microbe Hunters is good, and I like it better than Cobra. I am a devout Stereolab fan, I even have some of their concert-only singles, and I think Cobra is their weakest album to date. Of course, I'm an Old Skool fan, and think that Peng! and Mars Audiac Quintet are their best albums, with Switched On! a close second. Come to mention it -- I rank Stereolab up with B & S in the fact that I don't think it's really possible for them to put out a bad album per se. Refried Ectoplasm and Aluminum Tunes are also great, as far a compilation albums go. I know I'm going to get flamed into obvlivion for this: but I think that "Judy is a Dick Slap" is just a Stereolab rip off, at least the first part is. I don't care much for the Legal Man EP. I like the songs, but they're too short. Can't really glean a good bit of enjoyment from them, because they're over too quickly. Am I the only one who thinks that B & S sounds like "The Left Banke" sometimes?. I'm just waiting for them to do a cover of "Walk Away Renee" on one of their EPs, or live. I could hear Stuart doing that. Except that he would change the lyrics so that she would be a rubberist with a toilet plunger and cream cheese fetish. NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE. I MEAN IT. ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE RUBBERISTS INTO TOILET PLUNGERS AND CREAM CHEESE. THIS HAS BEEN A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT. I *REALLY* need to get out more. ======================================== "I only buy a book for the way it looks, then I put it on the shelf again. I can tell you what I'm thinking, But it never seems to do you good. It's beyond me what a girl can see, I'm only lucid when I'm writing songs." -- Belle and Sebastian http://home.earthlink.net/~rtoad WHAT WAS I THINKING? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Mon Jul 10 17:50:48 2000 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:50:48 -0400 Subject: Sinister: cool senior highschool References: <80256916.0049A210.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Message-ID: <004201bfea8f$02f81960$4202a7d1@yesic.com> YO! faking up a rampage mentioned wanting to be canadian and wanting 'a real canadian lineage' which seems really preposterous to me. i mean, exactly what constitutes a canadian lineage? everyone but the native canadians came from some other place and got it on with people from other places who had kids who were bits of both etc. i mean, i'm half-japanese and half-ukranian so far as the genes are concearned but both my folks were born here so um...yeah....canadian lineage? um... sorry about that. my last word on pink floyd: i always hate talking about pink floyd because it just leads to too much ickyness, and misunderstanding. really, it happens most with floyd, more than with any other band. i don't know why. so this is the last thing i'll say about floyd. nick dastoor took me to town about floyd being something that i hated because the scene around them is full of unbathed granola heads, when in fact i hate floyd for thousands of really important reasons, not just because jello biafra tells me i should. (although thats a pretty good reason i think, also the granola heads are a really big turn off) i actually own a few floyd records. i generally don't say i hate bands i know nothing about. maybe hate is too strong, but they really do bore the fuck out of me. in part because they take themselves so seriously and so many of their fans take their seriousness so seriously (serious). not that you shouldn't be serious, its just what they are being so serious about i find really silly. being a curious sort i never really found their music that deep or fascinating...i mean, what passes for 'innovation' in their music is really just regurgitating things others did before and integrating it into a really dull hard-rock sort of framework. not that regurgitating is bad, but its bad when the copy is mistaken for the original, y'know. its not like people walk around saying belle and sebastian invented the 3minute jangly pop song... anyway, so then floyd throw in some limp guitar work and some 'deep' psycho-crap and suddenly everyone is so fascinated...like, air make this meaningless cheesy film-soundtrack album and yes it does sound like pink floyd, but its cheesy and fun (its a score to a pretty cheesy movie about things that happened in a cheesy decade, the cheese is totally appropriate)...which is where i can like air and where i can't like floyd...see? its not that i hate grandiose things either...i mean there's definitely a certain pleasure in excess. but for something to act and be perceived by so many people as so weighty and such but totally lack the anything to substatiate taking up that kind of space is really annoying to me. and yes, kittens are probably the best things to come out of pink floyd ever. although whoever named their cats that deserves to be beaten about the ears with wet rhubarb. as to the joe boyd connection: he may have produced some earlier floyd records, but so far as i can be sure floyd produced most of their own work and in many cases these sessions were engineered by alan 'i robot' parsons....who's records i find to be among the very funniest things ever recorded. i personally hold alan parsons responsible for 'that sound' that i hate so much on floyd records. and its not like i even dislike prog either. i love Italian prog bands like banco and museo rosenbach and l'orme because their sooooo silly and weird. its like getting all the boring english prog rock filtered through this ludicrous opera world and then everything turns completely ridiculous. its like pink floyd in drag. speaking of slipknot: my friend ben (who is on the list but never posts) told me this story. a friend of his works at the warehouse, which is perhaps one of the all time worst concert venues in toronto, it almost always sounds shit there...but i'm digressing...and it so happens that a few months ago slipknot played and after the concert had finished and most people had gone home there was still this worried looking old guy running around looking around...so it turns out that he was a worried father looking for his 15 yr old daughter whom he was supposed to pick up after the show...so the staff looked here and there and couldn't find her anywhere. so then they went backstage and looked in here and there and found nothing and then they came to the dressing rooms..... anyway, it turns out that that's where the fellow's daughter was and she and the guy from slipknot where drinking coke and eating chips. actually, that's a big lie...she was giving the slipknot guy a blow-job and the kicker is: HE WAS STILLWEARING HIS MASK!!! i mean, do you think she asked for him to leave it on or what? so the poor father looked like he was about to have a heart attack and things went badly. also speaking of ben: he's visiting london and things so you all should be nice to him. you'll know him by the way he avoids making eye contact and then runs away if you try and talk to him. and his lacoste shirts. he wears lacoste shirts. and has a belt. yeah. and i _didn't_ make fun of yr hair angel, i *complimented* you on it. and frankly i dance like a spastic so i think i'm pretty innocent of rampant anglophilia in dancing. but if the spastics ever go around looking for people biting their style, then i'm fucking dead. kicking it seizure style since 1980, steve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Mon Jul 10 21:04:13 2000 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:04:13 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Pre-recorded laughter in the Air Message-ID: As people were talking about Air being cool, ironic back-to-the-70s-cheese people, I thought I'd add my own 2p. I haven't listened to Moon Safari for ages, ever since I was playing it one day, and one of the songs set something nagging at the back of my mind. It sounded like ... I wasn't sure, but suddenly I realised ... the theme from "Last Of The Summer Wine"! Aaargh! Brought back far too many memories of not laughing along with my family on Sunday evenings. Fortunately, I managed to stop myself from smashing my stereo with whatever came to hand. The stereo stopped working by itself, anyway. Can't afford a new one. Have to make do with crap PC speakers ATM. Personal gripe: I work in a university library, so you'd think that the customers I'd come across would be intelligent people able to find their own books with the minimum of effort. Are they? What do you think? Of course bloody not. Every five minutes I have to stop what I'm doing and answer some stupid question, then take someone halfway across the library to find a book that they have walked past five times already. And because it's a library, we can't even listen to B+S while we work. (actually, at the moment we're trying to hide all the most commonly used books so the students all have to read different ones for a change. I am doomed to more stupid questions.) Incidentally, if any of you list people decide to come to Edinburgh University library and ask me a stupid question, you are welcome. I will immediately realise where you are coming from, roll up one trouser leg and give a secret handshake. Or something like that. Hell, I have to do something to amuse myself. You will know who I am; the one talking to all the stupid-looking people who can't find their own books. Rant over. Please return to your normal random chatter. -- Will s +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Mon Jul 10 22:06:12 2000 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:06:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: Fun with sharp objects Message-ID: <44.5476bdc.269b94c4@aol.com> Hewwo, Mmmm, Jason went to T in the Park. I wonder, did he ever get to wave his 'Sinister is a bit freaky' sign at Stu D? Looper are good. They tell grate bedtime stories. Oh, oh, but I was being an undercover kid at the local grungers hangout. Well, not really undercover, because I stuck out like a belle and sebastian fan among grunger. Oh wait, that's what I was. So I don't know what made me go, but I went along, anyway, and everyone was in black and had mad eye make-up, and nirvana and satan is cool tee-shirts, and I was in the corner with flares and angels on my top, and then they all started laughing at me, and threatening to eat me and stuff, and I honestly thought they would, but they never, because this loud band came on, and started screaming 'fuck', and they all liked it and thought it was grate. But I wasn't that keen, but my friend who was with me, said that I wasn't allowed to read (since I'd brought Catcher in the Rye with me. Well, actually, it just sort of lives in my bag, in case I get bored and I need something to read) or she'd hit me, and believe me, I'm really really terrified of my friend. (Nice basis for a friendship, fear, isn't it?). Anyway, when it was over, we walked to get a bus home, but we ran into two of the hardest hard kids, who were drunk. So they shouted to us, and I said we should make a run for it, but my friend wouldn't so they ended up coming over to us, but here's the weirdest part, they were so drunk that they decided to like us. So in the end my friend started chatting to the most sober one, and I had a really drunk hard kids slobbering all over me, and telling me she was really sorry and how she secretly liked me (which was crap, she was just drunk). So I ended up buying her fanta juice to help her sober up, but it didn't work, she just spilled it all over her, (and me) and I ended up just finding her a seat and then making a run for it. But now I sort of wish I could have had a camera, because then I'd make sure she never gave me hassle again. That's my big long story. But I'm now the proud owner of a pair of age 5-6 fairy wings, which I've been wearing about glasgow. Which is where I went with my friend Ross, who does impressions of war veterans and orville. And I'm not scared of him because he's nice to me and he didn't make me take them off or anything. So that was good. I'm going to be the Fairy Godmother in a panto of Cinderella. I think they let me have the part, because I've already got the wings. But I wrote the panto. Not on purpose, I was only supposed to help, but no one else wanted to do any work on it. I'm going on holiday this Sunday, so I spray painted my old wee guitar, to take with me, so now it's an even bigger mess, but i sort of like it. I'm really excited, and I've packed already. How sad is that? Is there going to be another Glasgow picnic? I would organise one, but I'm rubbish at that sort of thing. Glasgow picnics are FUN. I'm going to go now. This mail is too long, but at least it passes the 15 minute rule. Is there a too long rule? If there was, this would probably break it. Oh well. Hugs, Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Mon Jul 10 23:01:29 2000 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:01:29 EDT Subject: Sinister: Pre-recorded laughter in the Air Message-ID: <66.5628447.269ba1b9@aol.com> Bon soir tout le Monde, I've been trying to swear off the internet as much as possible because I don't like how it controls my life when I'm not working, so thats why I haven't posted in ages (not that anyone noticed, but I need to feel self-important for a spell). I kinda want to get back into real grit-and-dirt-and-trees-and-sky kind of life instead of what I'm picking up on my monitor, which is how I saw the past few months anyway. I took a few trips, bought a new car (one that driver does not do justice) and I feel alot better, but that might be the Ginseng talking. Anyway, I'm back for a night because I'm off and its raining so I can't be playing hockey. Will Salt (if that is his real name) asked us: << you'd think that the customers I'd come across would be intelligent people able to find their own books with the minimum of effort. Are they? What do you think? Of course bloody not. Every five minutes I have to stop what I'm doing and answer some stupid question, then take someone halfway across the library to find a book that they have walked past five times already. >> The customers in my record store, though this is probably expected due to their THC intake and naturally low-level intelligence, do the exact same thing. They bustle through the door, ram their mugs straight into my three feet of personal space and spout off "Do you have the Austrian Import of Jeff Beck's Blow by Blow on CD, cassette or LP? How about that American Bad-Ass Tune? How much is Papa Roach? You still sell Queen?", and so on and so forth, like a three-toothed gattling gun of inanity. These people must think record store employees are required to memorize the entire inventory on our days off. The very "special" ones will say something like "You don't carry Matthew Sweet? I just looked all through the M's and I didn't see it." Work retail long enough and you will come to question how we ever climbed out of the primordial cesspool to begin with. I can't add much to the Pink Floyd debate because I always stayed away from them until recently. Alot of my band members are Roger Waters' disciples, but I could never penetrate their mystique so I shied away. All this talk of Tony Doogan's inadequacies behind the mixing board has me a little upset I might add. I love the way TBTWAS was recorded: a touch muddy, a little reverb-y, extra warm...:sigh: IYFS and the new album seem way too cut and clean, but then again thats as much the band's fault as Tony's. They could have stepped in and said "We want this...we don't like how this is sounding...change that," but evidently they were happy. Engineers and Producers really have little or no say on indie projects because the emphasis is on creation and originality as opposed to perfection and sales. To assume that Tony was deviously imposing his own will upon B&S albums seems a bit far-fetched to me. The way that man records drums and vocals still amazes. No shows til 2001? Whats being done in the meantime? If all the members of B&S are visiting the states as they usually do each summer, they should let us know where they'll be in advance so we can welcome them and buy them drinks and dresses and cars and houses and such. Its to their benefit, trust me. I think hockey should become the favorite pastime of the Sinister Nation. Its fast, intricate, violent and it brings out the primal urges in everyone. A more violent football, a more fluid rugby. Well, I hope everyone is having a very nice summer and that they get away from the offices everyone now and again... Steve C. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Which Paul?" 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From enlid at xxx.com Tue Jul 11 00:03:23 2000 From: enlid at xxx.com (Vegard Enlid) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:03:23 PDT Subject: Sinister: It's just too heavy for a superman to lift Message-ID: <20000710230323.73026.qmail@hotmail.com> Thought I'd just throw in my suggestion to Miles' the list of the most "approachable" B&S songs. I disagree quite a bit, as you'll see (keep in mind that I've put it together like a tape to a friend who doesn't know anything about the band. So I'll leave out personal, obscure favourites like the hidden track on 3, 6, 9... and songs that really take time to grow) * Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying - An obvious song on such a list. It's the song that most "non-B&S-people" seem to like, and instantly hummable. * The State I'm In - Because it's the best thing they've ever done. Simple as that. * Le Pastie - It's brilliant, but also has a heavier sound even twee-o-phobics can love. * Photo Jenny - One of the bands catchiest choruses. * Stars Of Track & Field - It was the first B&S song I heard. It worked perfectly well for me... * You're Just a Baby - A surprise choice perhaps, but I love this song, and It can be justified with the same reasons as Le Pastie. * The Boy Done Wrong Again - Only included if the recipient is a known admirer of Nick Drake ;) * Dylan In The Movies - My B&S favourite, next to ...State... * The Model - Because it's very representative of how the band sound. No other band could have made this tune and arrangement. * Dirty Dream #2 - Should make your friend feel good. If not, you're probably better off without him/her. Oh, and here's one to piss everybody off: * Chickfactor - I simply don't understand why so many of you slag it off. The piano/mellotron and strings on it is plain gorgeous, and I can't find anything wrong with the tune either. Now shoot me. That's just 11 suggestions from the top of my head (my cd's are at work. I have a personal office where I can play anything I want as loud as I want. Yes, I know I'm lucky...). I could go on all night, but I probably would've ended up with the their complete output (I made may own MD with my B&S favourites, in chronological order. I ran out of disc-time before I got to TBWTAS...) BTW, I saw Flaming Lips in Norway on thursday, and it was the best concert I've ever been to in my entire life (I've been to a few). I was never one of those drooling over "The Soft Bulletin", as I think it paled compared to Mercury Rev's "Deserter's Songs" (Those to albums was constantly compared in reviews here in Norway). But the gig was pure genius. The music is one thing, but what made it truly awesome was the video-art they showed behind the band. Picture this: The screen shows the Teletubbies bouncing around in slow motion, their happy sun rising on the horizon. The beautiful, eerie tones of "A Spoonful Weighs a Ton" sneaks out of the speakers: "And though they were sad/they rescued everyone They lifted up the sun/a spoonfull weighs a ton Being drunk on their plan/they lifted up the sun Yelling as hard as they can/the doubters all were stunned Heard louder than a gun/the sound they made was love" I don't know if I make any sense here, but it was genuinely moving. A wee bit scaring, hopeful, childish, wise, happy and heartbreakingly sad all at the same time. And it was not just this one song. Most video-art at concerts are just silly fractals or something that doesn't communicate with or enhance the music in any way. But this... Oh, my God... I was in fact glad I turned down the offer of a wee joint before the gig. It would've been too much. I also saw Mojave 3 (phew... beautiful), Lambchop (same), Yo La Tengo (nice enough), Ben Christophers (should've played the club-stage), St. Etienne (good, despite half-arsed attention from the audience), D'Angelo (what a talented guy) and many more. Well, I have to take a trip to dozey-land now. Love Vegard ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbethy at xxx.net Tue Jul 11 01:24:48 2000 From: mbethy at xxx.net (mbethy) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Sunshine Sketch of a Little Town Message-ID: <20000711002448.B75F050AB@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From magdaboom at xxx.com Tue Jul 11 01:33:27 2000 From: magdaboom at xxx.com (Magda Boom) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:33:27 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Ooh, stick Koons, your Monet too, and your DADA Message-ID: Hello list members. Wipe that rice pudding off your face, its not becoming. Ive been on a bit of a soul-tip recently. I would have never got through my exams without Martha Reeves and the Vandellas screeching Quick sand at 2am to keep me awake. Ive noticed something in sixties soul, and that is funny rhymes with names. I have 2 so far, maybe someone could tell me a few more and I could compile a list. 1. I saw him in the evening and my heart stood still, someone told me that his name was BILL (Da Doo Ron Ron by the Ronettes) 2. and now were Going Steady, and I found out her real name is BETTY (Puddinn Tain by the Alley Cats) >I must say, the L*ndon p*cnic seems to be being organised with a touch more>continental flair and elan this time. No more hanging around outside tube>stations with the 16 year olds looking like we've all been stood up, oh no I have to say, Carsmile Steve, that last summer I, as 16-year old, found it quite fun standing nonchalantly against the railings outside Camden station in a shirt and tie looking for Belle and Sebastian badges out of the corner of my eye. And you do sound old, favouring some grimy pub for the top of Primrose Hill in the summertime. You can see right across London, and when you stumble down the hill to use the Ladies Toilet (or as me and another sinister vixen once did, roll down the hill) you often bump into little children playing in the playground next to it and have a horrific reality check in your drunken stupor. Jay was talking about Cafes in London. Magda recommends: Tactical on D'Arblay Street, W1, because its a bookshop inside, and theres something so splendid about being able to smoke whilst browsing the bookshelves. Its like youve been let loose in the library, the Librians swinging their pearls and throwing off their glasses, shouting Sod the books, dance in the Aisles! Smoke in the Aisles! Snog in the Aisles, my children!.....except, people generally just sit around that certain cafe looking serious. Theres Dianas Diner, round the corner from Neil street, which is the sort of place you long for on a Sunday morning, when your head hurts and your heart fills like its filled up with ash. Walls lined with signed, faded pictures of B-rate celebrities youve never heard of, and cheap milky tea. Yes Please. And Bar Italia, which I love, even if the hip cats say its naff to hang around there since Pulp name-checked it. Its a good place to take boys, unless youre particularly fond of your own reflection, as it is rather tempting to keep peeping at your hair on the mirror-lined walls. Oh, is that the time. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From declan63 at xxx.com Tue Jul 11 02:31:32 2000 From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:31:32 -0400 Subject: dragging myself across the dance floor Re: Sinister: Ooh, stick Koons, your Monet too, and your DADA References: Message-ID: <003701bfead7$bea02de0$2a101218@athen1.ga.home.com> actually, you're not really likely to see me anymore near a dance floor, but..... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Magda Boom" To: Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 8:33 PM Subject: Sinister: Ooh, stick Koons, your Monet too, and your DADA > > Hello list members. Wipe that rice pudding off your face, its not becoming. > > Ive been on a bit of a soul-tip recently. I would have never got through my exams without Martha Reeves and the Vandellas screeching Quick sand at 2am to keep me awake. ah, what you need is "beg, scream & shout!-the big ol' box of '60s soul", one of the loveliest box sets i've ever seen. it's made like the old boxes with a plastic handle to carry your 45's around in, and the cd's sit in record shaped trays and look like the label in the middle (and then fitting inside cardboard sleeves with mockup artwork). it even has "the little ol' box of 60s soul" inside with trading cards for all the artists! and the music? well, you'll just have to give it a listen! today!! > Jay was talking about Cafes in London. Magda recommends: > > Tactical on D'Arblay Street, W1, because its a bookshop inside, and theres something so splendid about being able to smoke whilst browsing the bookshelves. Its like youve been let loose in the library, the Librians swinging their pearls and throwing off their glasses, shouting Sod the books, dance in the Aisles! Smoke in the > Aisles! Snog in the Aisles, my children!.....except, people generally just sit around that certain cafe looking serious. Theres Dianas Diner, round the corner from Neil street, which is the sort of place you long for on a Sunday morning, when your head hurts and your heart fills like its filled up with ash. Walls lined with signed, faded pictures of B-rate celebrities youve never heard of, and cheap milky tea. Yes Please. > > And Bar Italia, which I love, even if the hip cats say its naff to hang around there since Pulp name-checked it. Its a good place to take boys, unless youre particularly fond of your own reflection, as it is rather tempting to keep peeping at your hair on the mirror-lined walls. thanks for the recommendations, i shall use them whenever i get the chance to cross the pond again. (someday.....some way.....) given how restricted smoking has become in the US, it was hard to get over how many places one can light up...even right in the middle of euston station. (a giggly smiths dream come true...i was actually on a train heaving on to euston back from liverpool....though how many people in my life would appreciate that? 2?) that may sound silly, but it was really unusual for an american. i didn't even know bar italia was a real place, shows you what i know....then again, people are really surprised when i tell them normaltown and allen's are real places in athens and the b-52's didn't make them up. of course that's not nearly as cool :) i wish i'd had someone like you guiding me around a bit when, for instance, i was trying to pick one restaurant in chinatown. i hope no one thought i was trying to slag off london with my stories and be a smartass tourist, i really did love it there. and i got so much exercise and photo opportunities just wandering around and around for hours. (course, that's how you get mugged too, but..... :) ) this past saturday i was riding around with my sister and visiting young cousin from florida. i prepared a random B&S minidisc to A: preempt my sister's music and B: maybe have it rub off on them a bit. my sister will sort of tap her fingers to any beat but i don't think she was really listening, and since it was my weird music in her car, the volume was at a level that might prick up the ears of woodland creatures but probably couldn't be enjoyed by most humans. even i couldn't make out "chickfactor". (yes, yes, i think it's a great song too.....let us unite in solidarity twattybus brothers and sisters!) my cousin didn't seem to have an opinion, she might've busy with the new harry potter book i got her, or just completely uninterested. it was wonderful to see her again, we only met for the first time last fall at my dad's funeral, and she's like the little sister i never got and the niece i hope to. i felt rather sheepish with how much she seems to adore me, but it's really sweet too. :) jay, who's trying to not make a *complete* fool of himself in attempts to talk to the pretty girl at work (interoffice e-mail is such a nice, casual way to converse, but it won't really get you there) "they make me look stupid"..."how do you mean?"..."you know, *brainy*, like a librarian"..."i like librarians" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From knightowl at xxx.net Tue Jul 11 03:22:15 2000 From: knightowl at xxx.net (Knightowl) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 22:22:15 -0400 Subject: Sinister: PROG ROCK, MY ARSE! References: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69014A3D4F@park_ex> Message-ID: <003b01bfeadf$7059c080$d81fd718@mountaincable.net> > Now, I'm a reasonable man, Apparently not. > but i WILL NOT STAND for this kind of talk. Pink Floyd are sad old hippies They are quite wealthy, so likely not too sad. As for hippies, they actually never were. Well maybe Syd was, but the pink Floyd were always much more than what the majority of their fans thought they were (eg. dark Side of the moon, the "hippie drug album" actually being about mental insanity) - much like a modern day sinister little band I can think of ;-) > yer dad liked, they are not for the likes of us, My my aren't we in a little snit. Who is this "us" you speak for child? I thought this sort of prejudiced narrow minded nonsense was frowned upon here? perhaps not. In any event, try not to talk through that "arse" of yours ok Stephen. "Please don't let them make me be a monkey butler", Ed +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From FakingUpARampage at xxx.com Tue Jul 11 05:02:39 2000 From: FakingUpARampage at xxx.com (FakingUpARampage at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 00:02:39 EDT Subject: Sinister: i've got a lovely bunch of coconuts (twiddly dee)... Message-ID: <3a.7a83e84.269bf65f@aol.com> hello sinisterettes! Jen said > Mmmm, Jason went to T in the Park. I wonder, did he ever get to wave his > 'Sinister is a bit freaky' sign at Stu D? you do mean "sinsietr" right? :) (jen, i'm sorry i accidently sent this only to you.. and then i unsent it... so then you're gonna have one of those annoying lil 'this message has been unsent' things that aol does.. unless they stopped doing that... ) Hunny... when you have a free moment.. can you change that? its been driving me mad since i noticed it was there. not that you have to of course. ok. alot of people have commented on my desire to be canadian, lineage and all. so let me explain. the states, no matter how much people seem to like them sometimes, suck. every other country in the world gets this foreign charm to it. us, we're a bunch of law deviating fuck ups. or, at least thats how i see it. canada is not only really pretty (or so says the stereotype :), but its close enough to home that way i dont have to leave my family that far behind me. cos afterall, i'm not fighting in a war. now, all that up there. its crap. truth is.. i just really want to be canadian, for some reason. i have no logical explanation. i just have wanted to be canadian since i was a lil jessy. like.. 5. yes, its sad i know, but its true. and.. the lineage thing... i mean my parents grew up in canada, my grandparents (on both sides) grew up in canada, my great grand parents (on both sides) grew up in canada, and so on and so forth. i'm just happily going to go back to the apple butter thing... i have a little jar of not that great apple butter sitting in the back of my fridge, which i enjoy to have with peanut butter on a sandwich. i'm sorry brian/mick that you dont have any apple butter. but i do. so there. i asked my step mother if it should count as a fruit or not, just to make conversation, and she looked at me funny. she, for some reason, doesnt like it. and mary beth, your story was lovely, and where is this town? is this the same town that brian/mick said he gets his apple butter at in west virgina? ok.. b&s content... there was some person on ebay selling a 'pastie de les... ' i'm not going to try to spell the B word... shirt... is it real or fake? hmm... so i wonder. i didnt wake up till 3 today.. and then i was sleepy the entire day, and couldnt really do much.. and now its midnight, and i'm wide awake and i dont know what to do with myself. wish me luck, please. xoxox Jes +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From low_fi25 at xxx.com Tue Jul 11 05:03:43 2000 From: low_fi25 at xxx.com (Jacob Laurent) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 04:03:43 GMT Subject: Sinister: Dilated Peoples Message-ID: <20000711040343.11616.qmail@hotmail.com> >I noticed street signs that said "Elderly People" (with >a picture of two older people with curved spines) . Such political >incorrectness >would never wash here in America. i don't know about that. have you seen the road signs between l.a. and the border of mexico en route to tijiuana? 'beware of immigration' signs that feature the silhouettes of a rapidly migrating family: father running hand-in-hand with mom who's pulling a little girl so fast her legs *and* her braids are flying up in the air. it's *damn* spooky. yrs, jacob ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keleidoscopic at xxx.com Tue Jul 11 08:09:22 2000 From: keleidoscopic at xxx.com (Chris Paluch) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 00:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Infinite Jest and Apple Butter Message-ID: <20000711070922.13581.qmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Sinister People, It has been a while since I wrote but something has finally compelled me to post. I love Apple Butter, and Canada. Canada, which brought us probably one of the few decent(not great) periods of american pop music...the Hip, sloan, Veda Hill and julie dorian, and other like people. And Much Music is slightly better than MTV and Much Music two is alot better than M2!!! I decided that it was neccassary to move as close to Canada as possible in case US just lost it, and that to me was Vermont. Yes I to wanted to be Canadain, I do not blame canada for one thing. I imagine that one day a large group of outcast americans and people who are just fed up will move to canada. That or one day New England will secede from the United States and become part of Canada, sort of an Infinite Jest situation. Because I am sick of the United States. A good deal of possible scenerios come to mind for people just sick and tired of the United States craving a parliment. or something similiar. And I really like Apple Butter!!! I lack the lineage though, so I really do have no real reason to want to be Canadian, other than lots of trees, and lots of snow. That and thier tends to be a bit more sweater and black glasses types. Maybe that is just because of the cold weather. B&S comment, what no tour till 2001...I wonder if they really are becoming like xtc...another cultish super shy pop band that hit a chord with a good deal of people. Maybe we will have Straun talking as a potato soon in a promotional video, that would be fun. Chris Wow we have really gone off topic again. ===== The sole member of the Lost Letter Society A society dedicated to turtle lovers everywhere. Http://www.mp3.com/LostLetterSociety __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david at xxx.uk Tue Jul 11 12:52:05 2000 From: david at xxx.uk (David White) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 12:52:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: University Libraries Message-ID: Greetings, <<>> Will Salt wrote: >I work in a university library, so you'd think that the customers I'd come >across would be intelligent people able to find their own books with the >minimum of effort. I remember not long ago (about February probably) when I was leaving the university library (after finding my own books I might add), I had to show the books I'd borrowed to the security guard, who was an old fella. I was putting the books in my bag when some greasy long haired gimpy student came up to show his books looking thoroughly miserable. The old fella asked the student what's wrong to which the student muttered something about being stressed cos he had exams coming up and an essay to complete. The response the old fella gave was one of the finest I have ever heard, "Stress? you want to live in Mozambique son, that's fucking stress." Kind of put's everything in perspective really. I'm not a huge fan of librarians in general, aren't they supposed to be there to show people how to find books in the organised chaos called the indexing system they have create? Most of them seem to think they are doing us some massive favour by putting themselves out to tell us (grudgingly) where to find the sodding books. I may be wrong but don't these people know what to expect when they take the job? I can understand why somebody in a record shop would be pissed off because in general the stuff is easy to find and if it's not on the shelf, it's probably not in the store, but in a library it's not like that is it? <> Yes, I've noticed the Last Of The Summer Wine/Air thing as well. Cue images of an old fella rolling down some Yorkshire hillside in a bathtub or some such piece of household junk, and the pervy old one on the bike. Hilarious? I think not. I think 'Chickfactor' is (goes away for 5 minutes to listen to it) pretty decent. I actually quite like it although I prefer The Simple Things (which is playing right this very minute). Can anybody recommend a good site where I can get MP3s of 'Lord Anthony' and 'Rhoda'. I've tried Napster but it's as slow as a week in a university library and anyway I can't find 'Rhoda' on there. That's all folks! Dave david at belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk Visit www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk now... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From clb112 at xxx.uk Tue Jul 11 14:08:24 2000 From: clb112 at xxx.uk (clb112) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 14:08:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: If you go down to the woods today... References: Message-ID: <396B1C48.32049192@york.ac.uk> I went away for a few days and came back to 100 or so emails which I couldn't be bothered to trawl through, so I deleted most of them, so sorry if anyone wrote anything good. I have nothing interesting to say, and am not sure why I'm writing at all, but will carry on anyway ! UNIVERSITY LIBRARIES Came across this random quote in the Uni. of Manchester/John Rylands library the other day: "You gave me my shoe-size in earth with bars around it" There's more of it - its part of a poem by Osip Mandelstam (and is written on the top of a cabinet in the musical scores section if anyone's going to be passing by). DUKE ELLINGTON Found an untitled tape with an weird-looking home-made sleeve in Oxfam, and got it cos it was only a few pence, and its got Duke Ellington on it, which is quite good (except for the "If you go down to the woods today..."/teddy-bear picnic track, which you just feel silly listening to). CONTENT David White wrote: > I think 'Chickfactor' is (goes away for 5 minutes to listen to it) pretty > decent. I actually quite like it although I prefer The Simple Things (which > is playing right this very minute). I don't know why but I've always listened to TBWTAS programmed for tracks 1, 2, 5, 8. But I realised the other day that "Ease your feet" and "Simple Things" are f***ing excellent (I like the Spanishy guitary bits on "Ease", and the way he says "curl your toes"). That's it ! Lots of love Caroline xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fehbptrain4 at xxx.mil Tue Jul 11 16:05:31 2000 From: fehbptrain4 at xxx.mil (FEHBP Training Account 4) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 11:05:31 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Puking from noon until noon again. Message-ID: <6629EF7B52C2D3118C33006008CF35910499C9F2@dddc023.ha.osd.mil> CONFESSION: Last Monday I came into work terribly sick.(Some one slipped me a bad pill last weekend) I headed to my computer to find all you messages from the 4th of July weekend. I soon ran to the lavatory (scarring the secretary) realizing I wouldn't be able to work. I had to erase all you lovely messages before i could read them( so the Tec guy wouldn't see all the messages on my computer when I went home) I went back to the archives to read them cuzz I felt truly evil. I don't know if there were any personal messages -but if there were sadly they were lost. PINK FLOYD Hmm... ok so pink Floyd isn't one of my favorites, But I don't think many have escaped growing up with out being exposed to allot of Floyd. And it's just one of those bands that even if you don't find it terribly deep-you learn to really appreciate the music just because they have taken a different direction with it. That or I guess you end up hating it. I was just surprised - cuzz I don't. There music is just great, You get a whole spectrum > total flood of emotion-to complete numbness. I don't know about all that technical stuff I only know that it gives a good feeling and that's all that matters to me. "Day after day love turns gray , like the skin of a dying man and night after night we pretend it's alright ,but I have grown older and You have grown colder ,and nothing is very much fun any more and I feel ,...another turn coming on and I feel sharp as a razor blade tight as a truncate dry as a funeral drum Look in the corner in the suit case on the left you'll find my favorite axe....." Now what's hippie about that? hmm.. sorry if it's miss quoted , I am also happy to report that I have converted a friend to B&S This is a girl who only listens to no doubt and the like.. so I am very proud. After dragging her to shows kicking and screaming for most of our friendship we finally agree on a artist. I also bought a new skate board this weekend . Why did I wait so long? Love to all , Alix "Oh, I'll call you speak, because that's what you do" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Jul 11 16:05:53 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:05:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Jesus, won't he shut up? Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22DB3F4D@SERVER1> First of all, crush+ carsmilesteve for suggesting you all let The Floyd (ESPECIALLY those of you who call them The Floyd, or even Floyd) crawl back up whichever bloated saggy rock arsehole they have temporarily been freed from. I know that, particularly among the older listees, we all have some tastes best left unshared - my passion for Kate Bush, for example, which, despite me mentioning it about 2 dozen times on this very list, has never created the kind of Bush thread I had been hoping for. But Christ, Pink Floyd. Leave it. I said, leave it... Rob and Tim's Stereolab discussion was revealing - I find it hard to understand how someone who things Peng! is god's gift can even appreciate some of the later rubbish they've come up with. I've finally come to realise that my trooping to the shop on the day a new 'lab album is released is just stupid - they left the love behind a long time ago. It's not real. It's bad pop. Just listen to "Lo Boob Oscillator", which I think was the last postcard-perfect thing they ever did (it's on the High Fidelity soundtrack), and then a random track off any of the last three or four LPs, and tell me which is more magical. Inventions. Two inventions which will be ubiquitous within the decade are the jetpack (it's just so obvious. How can it not become the biggest thing ever?) and the toilet-in-every-room. The latter one's a problem, for many reasons, but we can do such marvellous things with tubes nowadays. How many working minutes are lost each day through having to trundle off to the loo? Lots I bet. Concentration is lost, focus is dissolved, and the opportunity for idle chatter with some of the less dedicated members of staff can eat into productivity like nobody's business. So I reckon that soon we'll just come in to work, wire ourselves up via in-built tubes, and not have to move for hours. The same could also happen with food and drink, as long as the pipes didn't get muddled up, of course. Picnic. It'll be fucking ace. Be there, or like Floyd. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From damien at xxx.au Wed Jul 12 02:20:26 2000 From: damien at xxx.au (damienfranciscathalfrost) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 02:20:26 aest Subject: Sinister: bonnie prince sebastian Message-ID: <396b494a.de.0@webcentral.com.au> hey all, i remember talk a little while back of who you would like to see cover belle and sebastian and i thought i would like to hear will oldham doing a cover of "the state i'm in" . can't you just imagine him elongating the opening "iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii was suprised, i was happy for a day.........." but now the thought has creeped up on me that "i fought in a war" sounds very much like a song that the bonnie prince would sing. if you read the lyrics on a page, had never heard the song and had to chose between who out of bonnie and belle had sung it, my bet is that you would place your money on prince billy or whatever he is calling himself at the moment... in other news, i moved to london the other week and had the wise idea of upgrading my belle and sebastian badge from my pouch to my backpack, only for it to fall off on its first day out. hmph. but i have just started work for a new media group and on the rotating cd player belle and sebastian occasionally pops up... not to mention hearing it in net cafes around the way... shopping in my local europa billy joel started funking it up out of the speakers. it truly inspires me when he plays in shopping centers. happens allot in australia. billy joel and the beach boys always seemed to pop up in the selection of tunes at my local supermarket.. they are both great to shop to.. on the other hand, a little while ago i was shopping in the local op shop and a Muzak version of the smashing pumpkins was playing... this is not so good to shop to right d <<<<<<<>>>>>>> <<<<<<<>>>>>>>> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From damien at xxx.au Wed Jul 12 02:27:25 2000 From: damien at xxx.au (damienfranciscathalfrost) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 02:27:25 aest Subject: Sinister: bonnie prince sebastian Message-ID: <396b4aed.e2.0@webcentral.com.au> hey all, i remember talk a little while back of who you would like to see cover belle and sebastian and i thought i would like to hear will oldham doing a cover of "the state i'm in" . can't you just imagine him elongating the opening "iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii was suprised, i was happy for a day.........." but now the thought has creeped up on me that "i fought in a war" sounds very much like a song that the bonnie prince would sing. if you read the lyrics on a page, had never heard the song and had to chose between who out of bonnie and belle had sung it, my bet is that you would place your money on prince billy or whatever he is calling himself at the moment... in other news, i moved to london the other week and had the wise idea of upgrading my belle and sebastian badge from my pouch to my backpack, only for it to fall off on its first day out. hmph. but i have just started work for a new media group and on the rotating cd player belle and sebastian occasionally pops up... not to mention hearing it in net cafes around the way... shopping in my local europa billy joel started funking it up out of the speakers. it truly inspires me when he plays in shopping centers. happens allot in australia. billy joel and the beach boys always seemed to pop up in the selection of tunes at my local supermarket.. they are both great to shop to.. on the other hand, a little while ago i was shopping in the local op shop and a Muzak version of the smashing pumpkins was playing... this is not so good to shop to right d <<<<<<<>>>>>>> <<<<<<<>>>>>>>> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sophiesea at xxx.com Tue Jul 11 18:17:08 2000 From: sophiesea at xxx.com (sophie harris) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:17:08 GMT Subject: Sinister: to twee or not to tweee... Message-ID: <20000711171708.36017.qmail@hotmail.com> uuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmm..... im at work, but i just found a lovely thing whilst 'researching' sur le web - namely a rather dandy my bloody valentine site - *bless* - i really had forgotten how much they meant to me... aaged 14... and i remember my first 4 eps were ride today forever, curve frozen, slowdive adnooh i cant remember the 4th.... but now my record player is broken, and needles are such a faff that i only really listen to my ceedees - but i am resolved to get it sorted. aaaanyways, if anyone else suffered from soppyness and a tendency to get lost in the sky, here's the web addresses www.expectdelay.com/mbv http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~dweller/dreampop/ and, hurrah, www.geld.com/tweenet/ aah sweet nostalgia and the memory of the boyfriend with the longsleeve teeshirt shortsleeveteeshirt thing.... i bought him glowstars for his birthday... wonder if he's still got 'em......... golly nearly forgot why i was posting! to say yay, *so* excited about le picanic - thinking gameswise it would be the *best* to have a pogo stick... i managed 8 bounces once, and that was on grass... well my hands are cold now, so i'm off for some tea, but byebyebye love and jam and the joy of warm things when it's cold xs ooh and jen, your wings sound *lovely* and marybeth, what actually is apple butter? sounds sweeeeet... i stayed in a hotel last night, and now have a little pot of jam and a little honey on my desk from breakfast... * ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Jul 11 15:55:56 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:55:56 +0200 Subject: Sinister: 2001: A Spazz Odyssey? Message-ID: <000a01bfeb5e$33c70f40$8c9f243e@itjfvkli> No gigs until 2001? Heavy bummer. Still, chin up, before long death will be eradicated and then three years between gigs won't seem like such a long time. In fact three years will be the length of the average b-side. Queues to get into gigs will be thousands of miles long, and once you've negotiated the Tiannamanesque crowd around the bar, your pint will be as big as the one they used to advertise on the telly - "Whitbread bitter, Trophy bitter, the pint that thinks it's a quart!" Not only will death have been eradicated, the past will have met up in the middle with the future and there'll be no more sufferation. But everyone will look like Eddie out of Iron Maiden. Sounds like a Floyd album, doesn't it? I once read a huge article about the making of Dark Side of the Moon in what Duke used to refer to as "Mo-Jo" Magazine. Sadly, I no longer have it, but if I remember correctly they made it on the cheap, with sellotape, etc, and didn't expect it to sell. I could be muddling this up with Tubular Bells, mind. I read a huge article about that too. Pixidustlady, Chuck D is the singer with Public Enemy. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittenmouse at xxx.com Tue Jul 11 20:42:47 2000 From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (Andrea Kittenmouse) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 12:42:47 PDT Subject: Sinister: University Libraries and B & S non-tour Message-ID: <20000711194247.20770.qmail@hotmail.com> Yeah, you would think that people would eventually figure out how to find a book in a library (they are in college) but I work in a university library in an office where we borrow books for people that the library doesn't own (from other libraries), and you wouldn't believe the number of people that come in and ask for books that we already have in the library. It's like they never even bothered to look in the catalog to see if we had it. The librarians here are rather snotty though, I think. Wish they weren't. What is up with Belle and Sebastian not touring? Can't Jeepster or Matador front them the money to tour? It's all well and good for those who live in England who've seen them 10 times, but what about us West Coast people who probably will never get a chance to see them now. Do you think they'll ever tour the U.S. now? I would think if they were ever going to do it, now would be the time. I dunno, what do you all think? Why no gigs? andrea ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Alex at xxx.net> Tue Jul 11 21:12:47 2000 From: Alex at xxx.net> (Alex at xxx.net>) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 22:12:47 +0200 Subject: Sinister: b&s/go-betweens interviews Message-ID: Hiya you load of filthy list slappers! It's been all too long, so nice to see you, to see you - nice... Indeed. Life in Amsterdam is livened up (!) from time to time when I get to do a nice little interview or so, and there are two coming up that I think may interest you. Here's the scoop and the veritable deal: I'll be talking to Master Mickelas Cooker of our very own B&S, along with those two from the Go-Betweens in mid-July (seperate interviews, mind). On the site I help run, we've got a new type of feaure called the 'Hot Seat' (I came up with the title, so all blame goes to me). It's basically a rip-off of Q's 'Cash for Questions', except that - well - there's no cash. You do however, get, to send in your very own questions to me, and we'll - the mag - pick the best 20 and ask those in the interview. Not only does it save me a bit of work, but it often ensures a lively little discourse... So, if you have something nagging you'd like to ask Mick or Bob and Grant, send your questions to me at alex at kindamuzik.net. Cheers, and I'll keep you up-to-date as when everything goes online, etc., etc. Alex ---------------------------------------------------------------------- THE KINDA MUZIK YOU LIKE - the modern music magazine get yourself connected @ http://www.kindamuzik.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jellybabs at xxx.com Tue Jul 11 21:29:43 2000 From: jellybabs at xxx.com (Katy Dutton) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:29:43 PDT Subject: Sinister: Le Picnique du Sheffield Message-ID: <20000711202943.90161.qmail@hotmail.com> I haven't posted for ages, what with being away and all and I'm still all excited about practically touching Goddess, sorry, Geddes (TM David) in Fopp on Byres Road. The streets really are paved with gold. Or cheese, as that film (cartoon) would have you believe. A bit more content: I've got free tickets for High Fidelity (courtesy of the fabulous Uncut magazine) on Thursday, which is exciting, because it looks bluddy grate and they play Seymour Stein and talk about them as you all know, soo... (Sorry, pathetic I know...) Okay, PICNIC... The setup is working, I feel proud of my baby (Magic's and Mike's too, I suppose I'm more a surrogate mother). Just to reiterate: Time: 2:00 Place: Endcliffe Park entrance, Sheffield Just look for a bunch a manic twee people. I for one will be sporting my delightful B+S badge, the one with the swearing boy (David) on it. If anyone still has any map queries, mail Mr Smiley :) Feel free to come and raid my house after, the parental unit are in Cape Cod for two weeks. UNless you're drunk and scary that is. Hehe maybe not...anyway. The picnic is going to be GRATE, and I'm looking forward to it :) Thanks in advance for coming (just watch noone turn up now, Katy...). Katy xx 'Bright lights, cat fights, leave me cold' ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geoffpritchard at xxx.com Wed Jul 12 00:40:03 2000 From: geoffpritchard at xxx.com (Geoff) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 00:40:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I have never heard anything by Pink Floyd Message-ID: <004b01bfeb91$9b045180$db6b883e@oemcomputer> I had this dream the other night...I was sitting in a pub talking to Pat Cash, Serena and Venus and we were all discussing which one of the Williams sisters was the more athletic. I said something I shouldn't have, so I made my way out of the pub and into the garden, which was actually my old garden back home. Belle and Sebastian were playing the end of 'Get me away from hear' followed by a song that I hadn't heard before. I was really excited as I had never seen them live so I ran upstairs to watch them from my bedroom window, for a better view. The band then prepared to play Legal Man, but just as they began to strum, the heavens opened and they had to run off inside and cancel the rest of the show. The band were really upset, especially Isobel who was crying her eyes out. I followed them back into the pub where Stuart ordered two coffees and half a lemonade. Stevie had one of the drinks, and he also had really bad acne. The band were then interviewed by a young kid reporting for Blue Peter, and I spent the rest of the dream nonchalantly walking past the TV camera, trying to get on Children's BBC...then I woke up. All this talk of libraries reminds me of a story my friend told me once...There was these boys at his school who managed to 'borrow' another boys blazer without him realising. They then sewed one of those magnetic strips out of a library book into his blazer where he would never find it. For the rest of this poor kid's school years, every time he walked out of the library the alarm went off and he had to be searched for nicked books. No one ever realised why...If you happen to be the unfortunate soul, you now know. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachtuc at xxx.com Wed Jul 12 00:47:49 2000 From: rachtuc at xxx.com (rachel tucker) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 00:47:49 BST Subject: Sinister: da da DAAAAA..... Message-ID: <20000711234749.55380.qmail@hotmail.com> ...i'm BACK!!! no don't worry, i'm not REALLY a complete egomaniac, it's not as if i made a massive sinister impact last time i was here, didn't actually expect anyone to miss me, and now, on my return, i do not even have the wonderful e-mail addy of rachel at tigermilk.freeserve.co.uk anymore. it has been truly buggered up in my puter's nervous breakdown. i have been fairly distraught about this monumental loss, and i spent ages when i set up my hotmail account trying to get something b&s related (but with no extra numbers -it looks so messy) again. failed miserably, damn. couldn't get anything connected to mark owen either which both upset and exhilerated me...i'm not the only mark obsessive left, honest! d'you know the amount of bribing and cajoling i have to go through to get my cable-owning, bbc choice watching friends to tape mark owen's celebrity scooters for me? do you? oh my god my sinister return is already a humilitating experience... so, yeah, anyway how y'all doing then peeps? been up to anything exciting in the few months since i left you? no new single, album, lack of tour or anything like that going on? well, actually, don't all stampede to tell me what's been hip, happenin' or otherwise cos i have been in big brother mode and watching you. oh yes, the archives are fabulous things, though confession time, i have to admit i only really read the posts of people who were around when i left until i was back in the nursery, so i apologise to everyone else. i've had a couple of wicked b&s experiences in the last fortnight which i've been dying to share with you, so i was well chuffed when i finally got the call to relinquish the sini- play pen and can now bore you to tears. first up, we were sat in our local pub, me in a state of mental collapse due to it being the day before my last two exams (yes, a-levels are no more, positive thinking says i will not need to repeat, i will not need to repeat, i will...), and what does john the barman put on the cd player? tigermilk!!! i could have kissed him! as far as i know b&s have never been put on the star stereo before, and i haven't heard them since (i'm in there enough, i should know these things), it was just what i needed. i stayed for the whole of the album, went home much happier, with renewed revision impetus, and the next day i...probably failed my final exams...but y'know, i would have done worse without the unexpected dose of the belles at their most gorgeous. tigermilk still manages to suprise me, i can still find new...things (what a shit word, but this life has just come on and i'm slightly distracted) in it, which is my main gripe with fold your hands, it's already extremely familiar sounding and i've only had it for a bit. it's kind of boring, which given the amount of time i've waited for it is damn disappointing. anyway, been plenty of fishyclap reviews so i shan't add mine to the pile, but second great how-b&s-can-make-your-life-better-moment was when i was in the one decent club in oxford after completely failing to finish things with the boyf again (ongoing situation, have recently discovered that i am even more of a bitch than i thought, not only have i been unable to dump him twice, have told him i am in love with someone else, have fucked him about completely, and this weekend cheated on him. with someone he knows. though he doesn't know that yet because i've avoided his calls since. i am absolutely the lowest of the low and this revelation hurts, but hey, buffy's back on tomorrow after the wimbledon break so that's cool...nope, i can't even convince myself here...) so, yeah, was having extremely shit evening and skulking round the bar sneering when blink 182 came on (i still have my indie snob standards y'know...!)when out of the depths of my self loathing (and yes, i admit it, pathetic self pity, god you'd think i was a bloody radiohead fan the way i've been carrying on, oh no, i've just checked and i've not stooped that low yet) i heard the opening twangs of legal man, yay! and blimey does it sound 50 million times better at full volume with a dance floor at your disposal! cheered me up no end, and as it was fairly early on in the evening people weren't really up for it yet, but boy did the place go mental while b&s were on...ok, maybe it didn't go mental but the floor did begin to fill and loads of people started wearing euphoric / silly (delete as appropriate) grins on their faces which was heart warming to say the least. and i was ecstatically happy for a few minutes which makes a change. why can't more of my life be made up of these moments? is anybody's? have just read through this post and realised that it's not much of an intro post given that hardly (if) any of you know who i am. i'm rachel btw (obsessions include struan, take that, oxford united fc, dawson's creek, chocolate flavoured nutri-grain bars etc.) and now i'm signing off. keep it sinister lots of love rachel xxx ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Wed Jul 12 03:50:19 2000 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 19:50:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: it's safer not to look around Message-ID: <20000712025019.29662.qmail@web113.yahoomail.com> hello sinful ones. i recently became employed by a newspaper. last week, belle & sebastian graced the cover of the arts section. a big huge photo of isobel in legalgirl gear. mm mm mmm! anyway, despite the fact that the article said the same thing that all other articles these days say about the band, and despite the fact that the columnist referred to stevie as the drummer, it was a highly favorable article. since moving to a city, i now have the privilege of using public transportation every day. and i gotta say, it hasn't lost its luster yet. it is especially nice with struan's voice all soft yet magnified in my ears to block out the sounds of the people around me. unfortunately it often also blocks out the sound of the train operator muttering something like, "this train will only stop at such-and-such location" etc etc. anyway, so i of course am loving "there's too much love"... and because i like to transpose my own interpretations onto the works of others, i've decided that this could be a good coming-out song. "you say i've got another face... [blah blah blah] i am the same as you," "it's safer not to look around," "i can't hide my feelings anymore," "and when it comes to blows (heh heh, no not like you're thinking you dirty dirty kids) when i am numbering my foes, i just hope that you are on my side my dear..." yeah? is this making sense to anyone? yo, queer listees, help a sista out here. this ain't too far fetched is it? mark c., if martin mutters anything about some embarrassing comments i made on #sinister the other night, i have no idea what he's talking about. mick mcmick said: > "Always wear your B&S shirts. You never know who you might > meet... but hopefully they will all be over the age of 18." and i agree on the first point. when i wore my stow shirt at the wine shop where i also work, i got many a compliment and a knowing glance. and twice now i've had someone comment on the magnetic fields when i was playing them. and a nice boy commented on the dressy bessy i was playing last weekend. mmm. but on the second point: who cares if they're 18?? i likes 'em young and dumb. small, so when they try to run away i can tackle them. you know what i'm sayin'? anyone? anyone? right, now i sound like mick mcmick and his children/zippers. speaking of mc, marybeth said, >"any Inbreds fans out there?" sorry, poor west virginia humor. i've heard one 'floyd song: comfortably numb. i performed in an uncomfortably long and alienating modern dance piece to it. oh god this post it crap. if i ever met magda i'd get her drunk. right right. one more thing: mandatory props and shout-outs to ... julie who's all alone in the big city, and kimmy who's all alone in a corporate world where they don't allow platform shoes (isn't that, like, unfair working conditions??), and will porter, who was sad the other day. and honeyita, who's been MIA. xoxo, ree ===== *********************************************************** "to me she was just marie." -mersault "hearts don't break/ the division is innate." -secret stars *********************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Wed Jul 12 04:07:32 2000 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 23:07:32 -0400 Subject: Sinister: i feel beautiful when she says i am beautiful Message-ID: <004001bfebae$5387aa60$a8553004@woody> it has been a while, i realize, so forgive me for being unchanged/not updated/not quick/quite slow/somewhat sluggish/or just plain boring. i just saw the WHO three times in the past two weeks and they were the best shows i've ever seen. it may be because i'm an obsessive fan who needs to be stopped, but they certainly were the best shows 'musically' despite the 'there are my heroes on the stage, let me soil my pants' feeling. for those of you who still love 70s WHO they played Bargain, The Seeker, Let's See Action, and I Don't Even Know Myself. great stuff. i just love the new b&s album. there's too much love is my favorite b&s song of all time. and i like family tree, very much. call me in the minority. whatever. hi to marie who just posted. sorry i've been very very slow on reading all of the posts, but i promise i will read every single one of them, i promse. i promise. ok so i fell in love last week and it sucked and was great at the same time. i was actually staying at a listee's house, well, sorta. well i was with a listee, at an arbitrary house. anyways we went to the barnes and noble in downtown philly and we went to the cafe, and saw everyone with their laptops and their frappathingees and there was this girl working there, making these hard to pronounce drinks, and i just totally fell in love. for those of you not there, i will describe her to you: she had sort of auburn/black hair, stretched back into two little pigtails, big colorful eyes, and a smile that was impeccably rabbit-like. it was a perfect combination of all the elements. and then she took off her blouse (easy, she had a shirt on underneath) because she said it was hot. hot indeed. yikes. anyways i did my shy routine and just said 'bye' on the way out. but that was it. and for the next two nights i didn't sleep very well and had stomach aches and all kinds of love sick things. it was horrible. and yet exciting and wonderful at the same time. very strange. i think i need to be committed for my stupidity. i remember her name, but i dare not say it here. it rhymes with 'kissy' though. ha. sorry for all of the smut. remember my age. is there any way that someone can turn back time? i'm slowly developing something that will do the trick. give me 60 years. i'll get back to you. bye for now blake the nerdy shy eyed pacifist silence is the sound of the wind masturbating. http://members.tripod.com/nucleartrout +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From knightowl at xxx.net Wed Jul 12 04:23:48 2000 From: knightowl at xxx.net (Knightowl) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 23:23:48 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Jesus, won't he shut up? References: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22DB3F4D@SERVER1> Message-ID: <004701bfebb0$e4d06fa0$d81fd718@mountaincable.net> But what if I like Pink Floyd, Kate Bush, and Stereolab? What then pray tell he asks while sporting a Johnny Rotten T-shirt? Why I must be a Belle and Sebastian fan then mustn't I? :-) Ed > First of all, crush+ carsmilesteve for suggesting you all let The Floyd > (ESPECIALLY those of you who call them The Floyd, or even Floyd) crawl back > up [etc.] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jules at xxx.cx Wed Jul 12 04:39:37 2000 From: jules at xxx.cx (Julie) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 23:39:37 -0400 Subject: Sinister: You married a Communist!? Message-ID: <001d01bfebb2$cde4e760$240315ac@udrtg.80laf.cyberbuilding.com> I'm taking a silly history class this summer, and for this class we are watching a silly movie called One Two Three which stars James Cagney as an American working for Coca Cola in Berlin in the early 60s. He's trying to make Coke the "first American company to penetrate the Iron Curtain"...that is, getting Coke into Russia. Of course I'm reminded of the good old days when Magnetic Megan and I frolicked in Moscow, checking all the Russian arcades for Dance Dance Revolution, buying bootleg cds at the seedy cd market, and making photocopies of our faces at the Coca Cola headquarters. They make lemon Fanta in Russia, you know. It's yum. That, however, is not the point. Lately I've been having fantasies about Belle & Sebastian covering Suspicious Minds, and I'm a bit worried about my sanity. How great would it be though? Isobel and Sarah could sing the backup. "We can't go on together...with suspicious minds (With suspicious miiiiiinds), and we can't build our dreams on suspicious miiiiiiiiiiiinds". If that whole young Elvis/fat Elvis vote thing were going on again I'd put my money on Fat Elvis for that song alone. I'm caught in a trap, I can't walk out...because I love you too much babeeeee! I'd like to welcome Phil to the list...you don't know him yet, but you will, oh, you will. Phil is a smooth and slender Asian boy who spends his free time listening to hip hop and selling his underwear on ebay. After shoving some Magnetic Fields and Belle & Sebastian down his throat, I finally got him to admit that "This whitey music ain't half bad!" In return, I've been listening to a lot of De La Soul. The boy who plays the Commie in this movie is really cute, btw. Yesterday two of my favorite people in the whole Sinister world posted, Mark Casarotto and Marie-ree. I was a little disappointed that Mark didn't talk about his nob at all. Maybe he hadn't had enough to drink before posting? I think it's only fair that I warn all of you London lot that I'm applying for a study abroad program there in the spring, so I might be in your city for four whole months. You might want to start planning a welcoming party or else go about changing your phone numbers and moving flats now. Now, after all the talk about the London picnic(s), I thought about how there hasn't been a New York picnic in almost two years now. I'm going to plan one. I'm hoping to organize it around the Shelflife September Set so there'll be something to lure those of you who live and love on the outskirts of the city into the city itself. September set is grate and always full of bands I end up loving two months after the show (ie, the Lucksmiths, Aislers Set, Poundsign, Masters Of The Hemisphere in the last two years)...so come for the show, stay for the picnic. There'll be more info forthcoming...exact date, location, etc, when I become more motivated. And that, my dearies, is all. xoxo Julie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Wed Jul 12 07:11:52 2000 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:11:52 +1200 Subject: Sinister: Field Mice Message-ID: <003b01bfebc8$5610ee80$4a6137d2@computer> righto, can anyone tell me if The Field Mice are any good? Once again I am faced with the dilemma of ordering something over the 'net having never heard them. But there is this 2 CD compilation with the word "kiss" in the title which I thought I might get. Any thoughts? Lawrence Mikkelsen http://www.akn.quik.co.nz/mikelsen/aboutme +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geoff at xxx.uk Wed Jul 12 11:29:12 2000 From: geoff at xxx.uk (Geoff Sheridan) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:29:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: PROG ROCK, MY ARSE! In-Reply-To: <003b01bfeadf$7059c080$d81fd718@mountaincable.net> References: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69014A3D4F@park_ex> <003b01bfeadf$7059c080$d81fd718@mountaincable.net> Message-ID: Thankyou Carsmile and Casarotto for your intelligent thoughts on the 'floyd. And indeed knightowl for your, well... thoughts. I am able to settle this argument once and for all. I am in the fortunate position of having never knowingly listened to a Pink Floyd recording, and therefore have the unique perspective that only such noble ignorance can allow one to achieve. The following statement is my considered opinion and is, as such, incontrovertible: Pink Floyd are f*cking shite. One does not often have occasion to use such language, but in this case I make an exception. >I thought this sort of prejudiced narrow minded nonsense was frowned upon >here? perhaps not. There are times when it is one's solemn duty to speak the truth. I don't expect to hear any more argument about it. Play nicely, Earl Sheridan d'Orange III +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From magdaboom at xxx.com Wed Jul 12 12:29:46 2000 From: magdaboom at xxx.com (Magda Boom) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 04:29:46 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Magda replies Message-ID: Well hello. You know when I said funny soul rhymes, I meant amusing soul lyrics which rhyme words like Steady with Betty. Not tell me what records to buy. That in itself is a stuck record. But thankyou Jay, that box set does sound rather dreamy. >if i ever met magda i'd get her drunk Oh dont worry darling, Im quite capable of doing that all by myself. Not without company, but by my own means. I think the Ouzo might have crystallised in my stomach like they warned it might, with a Just Add Water system ready to jump right back into action. I am currently enjoying breakfast in the ruins. Rice crispies, Earl Grey and Malborough Lights, and a copy of the mirror, because even though it pained me somewhat to pick it up and giggle at it, theres the Queen Mothers revolting old face on the front today, with the caption Smile everyone...shes nearly there Yes, please *do* hurry up and die! It appears, on second glance, that theyre talking about her turning 100 in 23 days. >I thought this sort of prejudiced narrow minded nonsense was frowned upon >here? >perhaps not Oh sugar, were talking about Pink Floyd..PINK FLOYD. Hello? Lights on, no-ones home? My Uncle likes Pink Floyd. Hes got copies of their albums along with his tape of the Verve, for the car. Ive been playing the Beastie boys in The Car to confuse the skateboys, its highly amusing. Their ears perk up at the sound of something familiar and they screw up their jump. Do we have any Skateboys present? Id like to meet a boy with a board who likes Hip Hop and also mopes around in cardigans stained with Rice Pudding. Now *theres* an idea for a personal ad. So, picnic on Saturday. Im not meeting you kids in some Grimy pub as itll be another morning in the Retail Game for me. Ill see you on the Hill later brandishing a bottle of Red. I might wear a badge which say my name, say my name, say my name. If no one is around you, say baby I love you. Magda x *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andy_flynnie at xxx.com Wed Jul 12 10:16:10 2000 From: andy_flynnie at xxx.com (Andy Flynn) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:16:10 BST Subject: Sinister: The definitive word Message-ID: Right!! Who started all this Pink Floyd Bollocks?? Come on ....Own up! I can't believe I've been drawn in to this debacle! They are / were a load of shite......always!! They are middle of the road pants....often touted by scallies in the mid eighties because they were without the capability of musical reason and behaved with pack mentality. Their so called crowning moment.....the wall....I watched completely untouched! Why are we talking about them....please god dont say that someone compared them to B & S.....If that did occur then what can we do to get that person expelled from this list as they obviously have no musical reasoning whatsoever either!! If we are going to talk about the million or so other good bands that exist apart from B & S then lets do it....but please will everyone just stop giving column space to the terrible...Floyd. All my fathers uncoolest mates like them for F**Ks sake! Stop it,......and stop it now! Genevieve! I was diheartened to see my ex had lost a lot of weight and looked waiflife.....It made her eyes seem to stick out and she had shrivelled lips.....she looked more like a mackeral than isobel Andy ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lfo_mod at xxx.com Wed Jul 12 11:07:39 2000 From: lfo_mod at xxx.com (Marco Del Castillo) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:07:39 +0800 Subject: Sinister: re: Field Mice inquiry Message-ID: <396C436B.C0F46D2B@digitalres.com> Allou Lawrence, Are you talking about the 2 cd compilation album entitled "Where'd You Learn To Kiss That Way?" If so, then it is quite a good purchase ... whether or not one is a Field Mice fan. It contains essentials and other what-nots and comes armed with detailed liner notes written by Claire Wadd of the legendary Sarah records. Among the Sarah set, Field Mice is up there (for me) along with Keith and Paul's Blueboy and the much missed Orchids. They have a very very fantastic way of concocting pop songs and singer Bobby Wratten's lyrics are as stark, oftentimes depressed, visual, and moving as those of Belle and Sebastian's. An output of them would surely be worth someone's while. Also check out their offshoot groups like the Northern Picture Library, Another Sunny Day, Thirteen Iced Bears and the Trembling Blue Stars if you have the chance. They can compliment the imageries that can be painted by an output like, say, If You Are Feeling Sinister. Ciao. the tragic dreamer, Marco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vibrosheep at xxx.net Wed Jul 12 13:30:15 2000 From: vibrosheep at xxx.net (vibrosheep at xxx.net) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:30:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Self Publicity, Cottaging, Torquay United and little else besides. Message-ID: <200007121230.MAA08387@mailhost.vivao.net> Heck, there's an awful lot of you out there. I haven't been here very often lately and what with the staff turnover in these parts I don't really know many of you except that lovely boy, Peter "If I had a 250 pesetas for every public shitter I've knobbed someone in..." Miller and that awful young toe-rag of a seaside scumbag Mark Cassaroto or whatever his name is. Oh and that splendid chap David Moore from Chelmsford which is in Essex you know. So I'm reintroducing myself to the list, so lock up yer fucking daughters and sheep and plug yer ears with cotton wool. Deep breaths...glass of water...I've never spoken to this many people before... HELLO I'M ADRIAN. I SMELL OF OLD APPLES AND PREGNANCY IS BORING ! What the fuck am I supposed to do ? I've come back here to pass the hours and the occasional sharp crack of wind. There's sod all on Sky Sports you know. I'm sure there is some sort of wonderfully intellectual thread (heh!) doing the rounds, but I want no part of it at this moment in time. I BET YOU ALL HAVE A NASAL HAIR PROBLEM. Still, be warned. I'm paying attention now, and anything I think merits an on-topic reply will be dealt with in a swift manner as I've got jack-all else to do. COFFEE-MATE ROCKS MY WORLD. Adrian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Wed Jul 12 13:42:56 2000 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:42:56 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Leave them kids alone! Message-ID: <20000712124256.25800.qmail@web311.mail.yahoo.com> Dont get me started on Pink Floyd - oh you have... One of my earliest pop memores was seeing the Another Brick In The Wall (Pt 2.) video when I was about five and that big Gerald Scarfe puppet teacher scaring the bluddy shite out of me. To the extent that I had to hide behind the sofa whenever the words P*nk F**yd were mentioned. I've never been that fond of big puppets since then either. Oh and my dad likes the Floyd therefore they're poo. No gigs 'til 2001? Noooo! I could be dead by then*. Well if they're not gonna tour we'll have to form a tribute band with lookalikes. Anybody out there resemble anyone in B&S? Any suggestions for name? Something better than Being Other People probably. Laahndaahn picnic: Hope this weather clears up before Saturday. Still - there's always the pub. Its dangerous to smoke while operating a jetpack y'know. Robster *Not true but I felt some drama was required ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rclander at xxx.net Wed Jul 12 14:31:33 2000 From: rclander at xxx.net (Richard Lander) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 21:31:33 +0800 Subject: Sinister: A prog up the arse References: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22DB3F4D@SERVER1> Message-ID: <000901bfec05$d16f7f00$72f951ca@richardl> One of my very infrequent posts but Mr Casarotto hit the nail right on the head when he said > I've finally come to realise > that my trooping to the shop on the day a new 'lab album is released is just > stupid - they left the love behind a long time ago. It's not real. It's bad > pop. Just listen to "Lo Boob Oscillator", which I think was the last > postcard-perfect thing they ever did (it's on the High Fidelity soundtrack), > and then a random track off any of the last three or four LPs, and tell me > which is more magical. I can remember seeing Stereolab at the Boardwalk in Manchester quite early on and they were filled with glistening pop tunes and put on a bloody grate performance. Now sadly they seem to be ploughing the same old rut again and again. I'm selling lots of records I no longer listen too and while Switched On and Peng! will continue to reside in my record collection I'm afraid that Dots & Loops won't. So theres going to be no Belle & Sebastian concerts for another 18 months. Probably when they will tour again they won't come to Hong Kong either, damn. One of these days I'm expecting to read that somebody has put together a B & S tribute band, like the Australian Pink Floyd or Bootleg Beatles or something. This B & S tribute could call themselves something like Electronic Renaissance or The Dogs on Wheels or something. What a scary thought! Richard Lander Lamma Island, Hong Kong +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From yosef9 at xxx.com Wed Jul 12 14:38:57 2000 From: yosef9 at xxx.com (Joseph Colbourne) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:38:57 GMT Subject: Sinister: re: Field Mice inquiry Message-ID: <20000712133857.2638.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey, do you mean the 14 Iced Bears? If so, I thought they were around a lot longer than the Field Mice, etc., and their sound is much different...very acid-tinged, psych inspired jangly indie pop, circ. 1985-89. Is there in fact another back called _13_ Iced Bears? Anyhow, that was my first post and I was out of the nursery quite a while ago and I just haven't gotten around to posting. I am from Massachusetts, so if there are an other listees from the area, give me a hollar! cheers joseph >From: Marco Del Castillo >Reply-To: Marco Del Castillo >To: B&S mailing list >Subject: Sinister: re: Field Mice inquiry >Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:07:39 +0800 > >Allou Lawrence, > > Are you talking about the 2 cd compilation album entitled >"Where'd You Learn To Kiss That Way?" If so, then it is quite a good >purchase ... whether or not one is a Field Mice fan. It contains >essentials and other what-nots and comes armed with detailed liner notes >written by Claire Wadd of the legendary Sarah records. > Among the Sarah set, Field Mice is up there (for me) along with >Keith and Paul's Blueboy and the much missed Orchids. They have a very >very fantastic way of concocting pop songs and singer Bobby Wratten's >lyrics are as stark, oftentimes depressed, visual, and moving as those >of Belle and Sebastian's. An output of them would surely be worth >someone's while. Also check out their offshoot groups like the Northern >Picture Library, Another Sunny Day, Thirteen Iced Bears and the >Trembling Blue Stars if you have the chance. They can compliment the >imageries that can be painted by an output like, say, If You Are Feeling >Sinister. Ciao. > > >the tragic dreamer, > >Marco >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ > +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Wed Jul 12 14:41:03 2000 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:41:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Haircut 100 Message-ID: Hello people, I reckon I've had about 100 haircuts and not one of them was as good as Fantastic Day or Love Plus One. Hence, I'm sitting here writing pap as I'm far too scared to leave the house and visit the barbers. Actually I wonder what happened to my Nick Heyward solo album with the cracking Blue Hat For a Blue Day tune on it. I guess I must have thrown it out to make way for all my B*witched records. Ree said: > mark c., if martin mutters anything about some embarrassing > comments i made on #sinister the other night, i have no idea what > he's talking about. And nor do I Ree. Well except if plied with significant amounts of alcohol then my mind my get clearer. But I'll be doing a Euan at the London picnic on Saturday so you'll have to catch me early Mark before I pass out somewhere and embarrass my parents yet again. As I was the kind of kid that my parents were embarrassed to be seen with not the other way round. If when we were out shopping they saw any of their friends when I was with them they'd run into the nearest shop. Bless 'em, they had their street cred to think off. I mean would you want to be seen with someone wearing a Nick Heyward T-shirt? Anyway... Julie said: > I'm taking a silly history class this summer, and for this class we > are watching a silly movie called One Two Three which stars James > Cagney as an American working for Coca Cola in Berlin in the early > 60s. Which has me very concerned about the state of the American education system. "How shall we teach European history?". We'll show an American film, about an American selling an American product. Very worrying, I do think you need to study over here to get a complete education. It really is your education I'm thinking of here nothing more. Err... anyway, at least read something like Hobsbawn's Age of Extremes to get a clearer view of this era, I think we'd all agree you can't go wrong with a bit of Hobsbawn can you? Not that I would read it myself, I'd far rather carry on reading Lake Wobegon Days. But I don't need no education. Talking of which why doesn't anyone talk about Pink Floyd on this list? As that really would be fun... Mr Dastoor wrote: > Following my disgust at being invited to kiss him with my mouth, it > somehow seeped into my consciousness in about 1989 that Duffy was now > to be taken seriously, and I made a note to buy the first Lilac Time > album. Well personally I wasn't repulsed by kissing Duffy's mouth, so I went out and snogged him, sorry I got carried away there, I mean I went out and bought his solo album, anyone who's from Duran Duran is fine by me. I seem to be in a world of 80's pop / trouble today. Next I'll be on about Spandau Ballet being the true innovaters of shawls in pop music, but I'll need to do a bit more research on that first. I'm wondering if Barbara Dickson got their first. Anyway I also have that pleasant little folky first Lilac Time album too somewhere which I can willingly copy for you, probably just before I sell if it's worth hard cash. Ummm... I think we'll agree that this is much more than enough. I want to be a rock 'n' roll star... Te ra, Martin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From timothy at xxx.net Wed Jul 12 14:59:43 2000 From: timothy at xxx.net (Scampi) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:59:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: so mean, yet so bouncy Message-ID: <006f01bfec09$7302fe20$2a00010a@hostb42.internal.zone> Hi y'all, ooo, I haven't done this for a long time... Quite a few people have been talking about the fair Isobels virtues, well I am going to break with public opinion, cus Sarah is the Belle and Sebastian babe. So there. The pink floyd arguement rages on and it sounds like some people are getting quite pink in the face about it. I've never really heard much of the music. I think it is because whenever I see that little flashing light in CD emporiums I can never bring myself to buy it because I know that one day the battery will die, and it just won't be the same ever again. But then again, anyone who floats a giant inflatable pig over battersea power station can't be all bad in my funny little world. Adrian said: > I BET YOU ALL HAVE A NASAL HAIR PROBLEM. Damn, how did you know. I think i am becoming middle aged - hair is disappearing from the top of my head, and relcating to my nose. Or perhaps I am just paranoid about not being a feisty young student anymore. It's a lovely image of me to leave you all with anyway... can't think of anything else to say. bye. scampi. Name for Belle and Sebastian cover band - Seeing other people (perform our songs) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian_rolfe at xxx.com Wed Jul 12 15:24:49 2000 From: ian_rolfe at xxx.com (Ian Rolfe) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 07:24:49 -0700 Subject: Sinister: 17, in milton keynes (i'm a poet!) Message-ID: <200007121424.HAA23413@mail13.bigmailbox.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From sophie at xxx.uk Wed Jul 12 15:24:59 2000 From: sophie at xxx.uk (sophie watkinson) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:24:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: this is just...... supposed to be a quick message Message-ID: <5GTRYCA7+Hb5Ewzd@datalink.demon.co.uk> hey. haven't read any of my digests for a month. don't boot me off. i was away and, to be frank, couldn't be arsed to catch up when i got back. life is never dull in limbo. after finishing school and before starting uni my life has become the best i fear it ever will be. the intensity of the fun i seem to be having at the moment is not only frightening, but exhausting. i hope fatigue doesn't conquer all and put a stop to this 'crazy life'. *b&s content* CHANCE MEETING WITH FELLOW SINISTER LISTEE EXCLUSIVE!! Breeze 2000 (local free festival in leeds). i was bored. i was tired. i was amazed at the amount of 14 year old punks around these days. a stranger walks up. "hello, are you sophie?" "yes" "i'm charlie, from sinister". i was suprised. and happy for a day. it wasn't my upside down badges that did it either. does that mean i look sinister? hi charlie. i also bumped into my lost love at said 'festival'. he spoke to me for the first time in a year. although he's on my mind, i am suprisingly undepressed about seeing him again. maybe that means i'm over it. maybe not....! i'm going away again tommorow for two weeks which means i'll have to delete a load more digests when i get back ( i AM a lazy get) so i hope i don't miss too much. -- sophie unpopular before being unpopular was popular +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Wed Jul 12 15:40:21 2000 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:40:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: PROG ROCK, MY ARSE! Message-ID: <8025691A.0051EFC2.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> I'm always pretending to be Canadian, but no one's fallen for it yet. The Floyd, eh? This is my favourite thread for some time and so long, although I suppose much of my enjoyment is at poor old Knightowl's expense. Maybe I'm in the luxurious position of having never felt persecuted for my musical tastes, but I think unswerving narrow-minded contempt for certain artists is really quite funny. Obviously he doesn't. And I apologise to Steve Kado if I implied that his antipathy was as poorly grounded as my own. Any chance of everyone referring to them as FLOYD at all times? I think that might help. It did wonders for 1970s WHO. Whatever happened to all the Sinister rockists? Do even they draw the line at FLOYD? David Moore implicitly chasitises us again for not caring enough about genuwhine band news. I hereby serve notice of my intention to consume no solids until such time as the band announce UK tour dates again. Or at least some wacky jamboree in an unlikely location. I'll settle for a swiftly recorded new record though. What *are* they up to this year? Can anyone tell us? 'Fact' spot: Jes, the title you're after is, you'll be surprised to hear, 'Landslide'. No, it's not a cover, no matter what people might tell you. Yes, it is *the* Church Hall that Stuart and Richard are getting kicked out of. In answer to someone, people have remarked on the Left Banke's influence. The band played a cover of 'I've Got Something On My Mind' at the Manchester Town Hall in December 1998. They said 'Does anyone know who that was by?' afterwards and we all failed or else were too shy to pipe up. Me, I'd never heard of them but now I'm their biggest fan because I do anything the band say and if they told me to jump off a cliff or buy 'Ummagumma' I probably would. I might draw the line at 'Standing On The Shoulders Of Giant' though, which I believe Stevie recommended. Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbelinsk at xxx.edu Wed Jul 12 15:57:47 2000 From: mbelinsk at xxx.edu (Molly Belinski) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:57:47 -0400 Subject: Sinister: teenage republicans Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000712105601.00a25c90@pop.mail.nmu.edu> Colin said: > Didn't Stuart leave us with shitty songs like Chickfactor and Wooskie? And this serves no other purpose than to remind me of Genevieve's post (deleted and therefore non-quotable) in which she said she liked little phrases of songs. She doubted her expression of it, but I totally understand. My sister puts Seymour Stein on repeat because of "you liked Chris's jacket". Something that to me is outstanding is in Simple Things, "Subtle as the wind is gray". A long time ago Youn said something terrific about this line, which I had never noted before. She also talked about gray bridal dresses, very non frou-frou, and the two things just go together in my mind now. A faceless person in a simple gray dress on a beach, her hair windswept. And of course, blue veins. The things that one remembers. M Styer spake thus: >I may finally be able to answer the time old question, "What kind of music do you listen >to?," without scaring people off ("Oh...it's...ah....er, interesting, yeah"). Not that every day I am approached, being asked what kind of music I listen to, but this is something that gives me trouble. I can never think of something to say that won't sound cheesy or be misunderstood. I usually just open my eyes really wide and say "it's really good" nodding my head to emphasize the solemn enthusiasm my huge eyes alone would not convey. I don't like to generalize, and a lack of a definite answer makes me out to be passive-ish. Or so I think. In the right context I can say old fashioned pop in an effort to separate everyday-commercial-radio-station-pop with what I mean. But it never works out, because I remember that by old fashioned pop I mean old fashioned like my grandmother making bread in black and white, and not like the Supremes. But I mean that too. So M Styer, when you get a good answer, call me. A while ago I realized that when I talk to myself in my head I construct sentences mostly in the past perfect. I attributed this as a subconscious first draft of what would later be an email to some poor soul. This is what I thought of when Steve C talked about getting away from his computer and buying a car. My solution is to move and never bother to hook up the phone. Dependency dwindles when imaginary people are looking over your shoulder on a public-use computer, waiting for their turn. On Canada: I've only been to the Toronto airport a few times, but it is glued into my mind that it is a very chic city, filled with very chic people. Especially the Torontonians on the list, doubly the former (or are they still here?) listees jessicaxo and teri, whom used to (still do?) have beautiful websites. I used to go to these in order to admire hair that looks better than mine and cuter block prints than I thought I could imagine. What was my point? It all goes back to associations. Mention Canada as a whole and I think of milk in a bag and Tim Horton. Mention Tornonto and it's all glam and style. Love to you, Molly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Wed Jul 12 16:08:21 2000 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Wilson) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:08:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: You'll have had your tea then? Message-ID: Free at last. Someone should really clean that nursery, it hasn't been done since I was here last time. I've just got time to sneak in my first post while the boss is out. It looks as if I've missed most of the general prodding and poking of Forever Chang... err Fold Your Hands... but here's my 2p's worth anyway. Beyond the Sunrise is NOT crap; neither is it a B&S song. It's a GW song which would sound better on IC's new LP. I reckon it sounds more like Lee Hazelwood than Scott Walker though. Best bit 1: Woman's Realm, mainly for the tune which is the most heart-stoppingly emotional since DDNo2 and for the verse: I don't care cause I'm by myself All the dancers left but I can't dance So I will stay and clean the mess they left behind But I dream as I set to scrub all the floors, the walls I'm thinking of a song or two, a boy a girl a rendezvous Which reduces me to bramble seedless every time I hear it - and at my age too. Best bit 2: Waiting for the Moon to Rise, which I can't get out of my head. More Sarah songs please. It's all pretty damn fine as far as I'm concerned. Unlike some of you malcontented bairns I like the big strings, although I prefer zips and kids too (couldn't eat a whole one though)*. If anything, there are too many sound alikes on FISHYHANDS. I hope they're not straying from influenced by into the realms of Love cover band. Much as I love it There's Too Much Love does remind me of the theme to the BBC's showjumping coverage. Oh and the piano break in Nice Day for a Sulk - Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band. Anyway, must go. If there are any sinstreans in York, the bloke in the daft hat slouching home down Monkgate at ten to seven is me, all offers of chocolate milk will be accepted. Martin *Certainly not a coat zip anyway they're just too long. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Wed Jul 12 16:12:40 2000 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:12:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Devon knows how they make it so creamy Message-ID: <8025691A.0054E562.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> > The band played a cover of 'I've Got Something On My Mind' at the Manchester > Town Hall in December 1998. Sorry, meant 1997. Which gives me a chance to say how cross I was at David White's dissing of university library staff. I had to go outside and take a deep breath. They do a VERY DIFFICULT JOB in VERY DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES for VERY LITTLE PAY. It's not all stamping books you know. Good to have Adrian Evans back. I was starting to think he was mindmonkey. Where's chippy eileen? I started 'Billy Liar' again this morning, which I last read when I was 13. It was the best set text that I ever had. Made me laugh like an idiot on the tube. Don't you hate it when idiots laugh at books on the tube? Overheard in the lobby: "Yah, I think he's in Burdeaux." I nearly piped up "Those in the know... choose Bordeaux" in a kind of involuntary reflex. Crackerjack! N. xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cellophanesky at xxx.com Wed Jul 12 17:11:02 2000 From: cellophanesky at xxx.com (Brian Pennington) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:11:02 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Sixty-seven reasons to eat breakfast Message-ID: Hello Sinisterines, If anyone can cleverly find all sixty-seven reasons to eat breakfast within this post, I'll give you a lollipop. What I've actually done is written out sixty-seven reasons, then taken all the letters and formed this post with them. So it's sort of like a giant word jumble. Good luck. Someone mentioned the Field Mice...hm...difficult. I mean, it's easy enough to say they're one of the most fantastic bands ever, and lots of B&S fans like them. But whether you should buy a 2xCD set just because we like it...dunno. Why don't you buy Her Handwriting by Trembling Blue Stars, because it's the same main fellow from the Field Mice, and it's one of the best albums ever. Also, it's cheaper than 2xCDs. If you like it, THEN buy Where'd You Learn to Kiss That Way. Plus the title is from a Go-Betweens song, and it doesn't get much better than that. But uh, as one of the biggest Field Mice/Robert Wratten obsessives, I'm 99% certain that 14 Iced Bears were in no way related to he Field Mice. Other than the fact that each put out a record on Sarah Records. In the meantime, ex-listee Magnetic Megan is hard at work assembling binhex colors, templates and other webpagey things for her webzine, which will include an ancient mail interview with Robert Wratten conducted by yours truly. If you're curious about some obscure details, and whether or not he likes Belle & Sebastian. I'll mention when it's up, if Megan is still ex-list. Actually, I don't think Judy Is a Dickslap is Belle & Sebastian's Stereolab knockoff. That would be Sleep the Clock Around, when they play it fast enough (i.e. not on the album, but on the session), which I am very fond of. Personally I have an inverse reaction to Stereolab material as compared with Mr. Mark Casarotto. In other words, I love the past few albums, and I think Peng! could be summed up by the phrase 'bweep bweep bweep blooooooop (repeat ad in finitum).' But McCarthy were fantastic... I don't think I've ever been to Wellesly, sorry to disappoint everyone. Is it in Kentucky? A friend of mine from Kentucky said all the little towns there had a festival of some sort or another in celebration of a food or food product. Apple Butter Festival, Green Beans Bonanza, etc. And yes, Ree, before you ask, I do wear shoes...although I don't have any on right now...hey, I'm still in my pajamas! Yes, so obviously I should go take a shower, so goodbye for now. -- Brian Pennington, aka Mick McMick | cellophanesky at mac.com | ICQ# 39021436 Sandcastle Records: the Cellophane Sky: "Better a tear of truth than smiling lies." - Duncan Browne +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elenita99 at xxx.com Wed Jul 12 18:33:56 2000 From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita99) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:33:56 CEST Subject: Sinister: Continental post and British weather Message-ID: <20000712163356.71074.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello fellow listees, My little brother (well he's almost 18) has arrived this week from France to spend three weeks in London and improves his English. During his first night he came into my room at some indecent hour and woke me up. I'll translate the conversation for you, in case you are not fluent in French :) Elena: "grmglmgrmwhat?" Lil'bro: "Elena...I'm cold!" E: "grlmlm...what? ...but I gave you a duvet!" L: "yeah but it's fucking freezing in here!" So as I am not that cruel I had to get up and gave him another duvet in order to get back to sleep in peace. All this to illustrate my point: this weather is properly indecent for July. Carsmile said: >I must say, the L*ndon p*cnic seems to be being organised with a touch > >more continental flair and elan this time. No more hanging around > >outside tube stations with the 16 year olds looking like we've all >been >stood up, oh no, this time we have the relaxed sophistication of >a proper >grown up PUB Well, to be totally honest I'll have to admit that the pub idea was coming from an English person (which sounds quite logical if you think about how english is a pub). But thanks anyway, I feel full of continental elan now. And Mr Casarotto was right, come on Saturday, "it'll be fucking ace". Martin said: >But I'll be doing a Euan at the London picnic on Saturday so you'll >have >to catch me early Which first made me laugh and then I felt sorry for the poor boy: he's about to become a generic expression for "being drunk" and he doesn't even know it yet. I didn't felt sorry for Martin though, but maybe I will on Saturday if we leave him lying on the grass of the Hill almost unconscious. I am not taking any responsabilities for that, and it is a statement. Have a good week all Love Elena PS: I didn't mention Pink Floyd, na na naaaaa ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From smiley at xxx.uk Wed Jul 12 17:25:27 2000 From: smiley at xxx.uk (Mr Smiley) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:25:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Funny goings on. And a picnic. Message-ID: <001501bfec1f$8fdc8b40$a85d883e@freeserve.co.uk> Hiya Sinister, Funny things have been going on with animals, for some reason. They've all gone really mad. Maybe it's the lunar cycle, or the impending end of the world. Or the ghost of my great aunt Bessie. I was walking through a field, full of cows. And it was getting dark, and it was cloudy. Anyway, just before the sun set, it broke through the clouds and bathed the field in orange light. At this exact moment, every cow in the field ran off to the other side of the field. It's odd. Cows are supposed to be these big dopey creatures that stand munching grass all day. To see them *gallop* is bizarre. And it annoyed me because I had, of course, gone there to talk to the cows. My brother had been pissing me off, you see. And when something pisses me off I like to go and pay the cows a visit. This causes problems when they've all been slaughtered, of course. It might have looked twee, but I had angry music on my Walkman (because my brother had been pissing me off) and so it just seemed terrifying. And today I was walking back from town having visited the post office to send some tapes, and I was walking through a field, and this little bird started to fly round me in circles, really quite close. Just a metre or two away. I think the animals are trying to tell me something. Oh and I'd like to take this opportunity to say that my boss is a wanker, and I'm just weighing up the pros and cons of telling him this. On a lighter note, you all have to come to the picnic in Sheffield, Endcliffe Park entrance, 2pm. Mail me for more details. I realised that you might have trouble spotting us. Katy D and I are going to try and get there first. So look out for me. I look like a 6 foot tall skinny computer geek. For some reason. Bye, Mike ICQ: 73775341 www.rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk PS. I really love the way "doing a Euen" is entering the nation's phrasebook. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Jul 12 18:48:13 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:48:13 +0100 (GMT/BST) Subject: Sinister: Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:14:31 +0100 Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22DB3F7B@SERVER1> I've just received a top class digest and I just *had* to reply. Nickie D, where's the cynicism and grumpy-old-bastard-ness gone? Adrian Evans, do you know how excited you made me (nothing new there) by promising untold tales of Torquay United and then RIPPING my dreams from my throat (please ignore ill-thought-out metaphors)? Martin Robinson, did you know how much you turn me on? T'other Martin, weren't you in Wilson Phillips? The whole band were on the list at one point, you know. Right, I'm off to prog rock Nick Dastoor's arse. Mark (founder member of Le Pastiche de la Bourgeoisie) xxx ******************************************************************* HIT Entertainment PLC 5th Floor, Maple House 141-150 Tottenham Court Road LONDON, W1P 9LL Tel: +44 (20)7 554 2500 Fax: +44 (20)7 388 9321 The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 020 7224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Adam.Williams at xxx.uk Wed Jul 12 17:52:00 2000 From: Adam.Williams at xxx.uk (Williams Adam (Mr A)) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:52:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Points of View Message-ID: <2F6030D3D79DD3119A8300902732B91FF68C7D@FELPRV02> Hiya popkids. Well as it's all quiet here and we seem to be allowed to talk utter arse without getting our virtual wrists slapped (and there are sites dedicated to having a virtual wrist slap, or so i am unreliably informed) or sent to bed without jelly (jelly and beds feature heavily on aforementioned sites), I thought I'd throw my tuppence ha'penny into a hat and then throw that into the ring. If anyone has any suggestions what to do with the ring they can keep them to themselves. You too Casarotto. So I thought i'd wink my very bestest leery Ann Robinson wink and begin. A Ms Dastoor wrote in to wail- "Made me laugh like an idiot on the tube. Don't you hate it when idiots laugh at books on the tube?" Well, Madame Nick, it depends what they're reading. I for my part was chattering like a monkey at Grey's Anatomy on the Bakerloo line this very morn. If it's the tube driver reading a book called "How to stop a Tube" i feel a tad concerned. If it's anyone reading Terry Pratchett/Bill Bryson/Helen Fielding, I take a photo of them to offer as mitigation if any GBH charges are levelled at my subsequent actions. Different strokes for different folks, as my masseuse would say, but some people are just plain wrong. Similarly there's been a lot of doodah about libraries again. Ms Dastoor mentioned they get a ton of crap. Well yes, but it's hardly nursing is it? My librarians are lovely though, so i wouldn't abuse any of them. If they're surly they deserve it. I did work in a bookshop for a while and some customers dis seem o expect me to have read every damn book in the shop. ("Have you got any good novels with Victorian workhouses that I can read to my class?" I kid you not.) I mean, obviously i'd read about 86.2% of them, but still. "Can you recommend a good Terry Pratchett?" "No, he's only written shit ones." - oh the fun you can have on your last day! Oh and kids, don't steal books from libraries as some of you were boasting recently. It ain't big or clever and I doubt Stuart would approve. I have stolen from bookshops and then given the books TO libraries because that's the kinda guy I am. This is immensely cool and if each of you did it once this week, the world would be a slightly sunnier place. Dame Martin Rockford wrote that he was "concerned about the state of the American education system. "How shall we teach European history?". We'll show an American film, about an American selling an American product. Very worrying." True enough, Jim. One, Two, Three (fine film in my book) was actually co-written and directed by an Austrian, but I see your point. And Eric Hobsbawm's great if you want to turn an entire generation into mad, cynical lefties. (Which I do, obviously. Although i don't think we'd get away with that in the US of A. Best just keep giving them guns.) But books in schools? you're showing your age dear girl. Or you would be if you'd also mentioned chalk, slate and ritual buggery by the dorm master. And you can witter about Spandau all you like, but after what that Kray twin did framing poor Maffew, I just can't listen to 'em any more. And you know this much is true. Richard newboy Lander spooked me with his comments about A B&S tribute band. Well Dick, I've pipped you to the post by forming one. I won't tell you what we're called as I'm shy of the publicity for reasons I shall explain in thirty interviews next month. But suffice to say we'll be keeping the flame alive, and giving the kids what they want. Obviously we won't actually be playing any gigs or anything vulgar. But we'll be selling shitloads of T shirts.... see you on the other side. a. ps Chris Rea - Rich Arse. Ain't anagrams great? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Jul 12 19:03:15 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:03:15 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Strange Meeting - Barcelona Message-ID: <003301bfec2b$f21d0440$7084243e@itjfvkli> I spoke to Mister Jordi on the phone last night. Some of us are supposed to be meeting up tomorrow, Thursday, at 1 o' clock, outside Cafe Zurich or Bar Zurich or whatever it's called. Some bloke called Annie's coming with her mate and someone else and Mister Jordi. It's all a bit vague, but it would be very nice if hundreds of people turned up, so come on down if you're that way inclined and in the Barcelona area. Don't be shy, I can assure you that you won't be as frightened as me, and I'm 32 years of age with a wife and several houseplants to worry about. So that's where we'll be, outside the Cafe Zurich. I might try and squeeze into my Study at Stow t-shirt, and will be loitering Clouseau-like at the newspaper kiosk. It's going to be BLUDDY GRATE, even if I'm on my own. This morning I thought I'd sort this Floyd business out once and for all, so I rummaged around and found my Floyd record, the first three singles. It's BLUDDY GRATE, especially "See Emily Play". Three minutes of pop perfection worthy of Nick Heywood in his heyday. "Wearing a gown that touches the ground". Lovely. I confess that it brought a tear to my eye. Great production too, especially the cello or double bass or whatever it is that sort of takes things down a level every now and then. "Scarecrow" is good too, suitable for Gentle Waves fans. Of course, this kind of Floyd stuff was a big influence on the eighties indie scene, and therefore a big influence on B&S. And Stereolab. My view is that when Syd went away, he took all the personality with him. That's why later Floyd sounds dull, and also why so many people like it so much. Once I'd run out of Floyd I had to seek out a track from something called "Nick Mason's Fictional Sports" featuring Robert Wyatt. It's terrible. Then I had to listen to The Orb. Much better. I like the Floyd better than the Straits. I recommend Queen for grandiosity. Quiz question: What have the Floyd got in common with the Kate Bush? I enjoyed Kate Bush's appearance on the soundtrack of "Felicia's Journey", really fitted in well, I thought. So we're counting down to the Queen Mum's birthday, are we? Should be a real cliffhanger, that should. Have Go-Kart Mozart been used on any TV tributes yet? Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MCFC9 at xxx.com Wed Jul 12 19:20:26 2000 From: MCFC9 at xxx.com (MCFC9 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:20:26 EDT Subject: Sinister: The monster from twee Message-ID: Hello listeroos. This is my second post, as I have a longing to make my name know to all of you pasty-faced vegan geeks. Just wanted to run over some quick things, throw in my two cents worth. First of all, I had a B&S dream last night. Well, kind of. Me and a friend we're travelling in a very large purple pickup truck that in someway reminded me of a bed, and all of us were playing musical instruments, and I was trying to avoid sitting next to a dirty old man who seemed to rather like me. Well, anyhow, Struan and Isobel showed up, and Struan told me my trumpet playing was shit. It's funny because he's right. I'm a boy who plays guitar, not the trumpet. And Isobel just stood there looking pretty, even though I knew that she knew I was thinking about how all you sinisteroos like her bottom. Confusing? Ok, in other news, I like libraries, but not the ones run by local governments, as they hardly ever have decent books to read. I thought every library in the world had "On The Road" by Jack Kerouac until a few weeks ago. Ok, Floyd is shit. I need to go, my chicken is burning!!!!!! Mike The monster from twee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sweetie_something at xxx.com Wed Jul 12 19:23:48 2000 From: sweetie_something at xxx.com (sweetie something) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:23:48 GMT Subject: Sinister: im not the girl i thought i was Message-ID: <20000712182348.79398.qmail@hotmail.com> sinister aight? tis i i i but as the subject suggests its not who i thought it was oh no oh yes sorry but im sort of basking in myself at the mo coz im real happy happy just now in a fine fine sort of a way and its nice :) so aye t in the park twas fun although the only thing i brought home with me was the cold :/ yeah and i have like no money at all and the plan was whatever i bring home fae t in the park would go in the bank but i got home and decided that i couldnt last without looooper so i went out and blew the dregs on the 2 albums oops ach ahm getting kickied off the buggers- grrrr well all lovin u and leavin u wouldnt it be nice to be a thanku? sweetie xox ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pixidustlady at xxx.uk Wed Jul 12 20:54:09 2000 From: pixidustlady at xxx.uk (the original pixidustlady) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:54:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: island void/floyd monster Message-ID: <001f01bfec3b$0bd07660$83ce28c3@pixidustlady> hello. 4 digests to read thru, aarrgghh Mark Casarotto wrote: >First of all, crush+ carsmilesteve for suggesting you all let The Floyd >(ESPECIALLY those of you who call them The Floyd, or even Floyd) crawl >back >up whichever bloated saggy rock arsehole they have temporarily been freed >from. I know that, particularly among the older listees, we all have some >tastes best left unshared - my passion for Kate Bush, for example, which, >despite me mentioning it about 2 dozen times on this very list, has never >created the kind of Bush thread I had been hoping for. But Christ, Pink >Floyd. Leave it. I said, leave it... hey, I think Kate Bush is fantastic. the question now is, will you accept this comment from someone who likes Pink Floyd? steven hewitt wrote: >You turn your back for two minutes and look what happens, flipping Pink >Floyd everywhere. Now, I'm a reasonable man, most of the time, ask anyone, >but i WILL NOT STAND for this kind of talk. Pink Floyd are sad old hippies >yer dad liked, they are not for the likes of us, we must point and laugh at >their fans and, indeed, at them, should we get the chance. Comfortably >numb?? comfortably ARSE, more like. Piper at the gates of dawn?? Piper at >the gates of SHITE. And they're responsible for bob geldof, and global >warming and england being shite at football probably. nice to see intelligent discussion at the forefront, i mean my goodness, we wouldn't want to resort to mudslinging and vulgarities now would we? thats why Ed the knightowl gets my vote with his contribution: >I thought this sort of prejudiced narrow minded nonsense was frowned upon >here? perhaps not. >In any event, try not to talk through that "arse" of yours ok Stephen. HEAR HEAR! i begin to regret ever mentioning pink floyd - look at the monster it has become. honey will confine me to the nursery forever for starting irrelevant discussion. lets just admit it takes all sorts (although i hate liquorice) and get on with something else. mind you, 'atom heart mother' was f*ckin' ace...... life on the island is getting worse. bad weather, bad boss, no money. those of you lucky enough to be in the city should cherish proximity, i miss it so much. actual places to go, actual things to do, people who dont know you (or the last 4 generations of your family tree) just want summer over. is that blasphemey here? does anyone understand? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Wed Jul 12 20:50:47 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:50:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: One Of These Days Message-ID: <000101bfec3b$da107340$b808073e@default> Hi FLOYD Fans Who Are Prog? Would they rock my arse, too? Are they responsible for Carsmile Steve's muscle damage? Obscured By Clouds was the dull 70's film with an OK Floyd soundtrack (for David White) Ummagumma is actually OK, Nick D (at least the live album is - the studio one is pooh, except for Grantchester Meadows) so you should give it a listen. Oh, wait a minute, you can't be moved by music without words, right? Roll Over Beethoven indeed. FakingUpAPortageLaPrairie entering landslide into Honey' fucking enormous search engine produced 57 matches, quite a few informing one that its an Isobel penned song which was played (at least) at The Bowlie SORRY Adrian "Sheepworrier" Evans, but Sir Cliff made me delete the whole list of reasons why I think pregnancy is NOT boring If I Were A Rich Man I'd nip down to Barcelona for the picnic. Trust the bloody continentals to hold it at lunchtime, though. No respect for the protestant work ethic & all that. Have a great time chaps. BTW Peter, wasn't Kate Bush's first album recorded with Dave Gilmour's money, or in his studio or something? Wicked link if the latter, as trumpet maestro Mick Cooke recently played a session for the Fannies album in.... Dave Gilmour's studio. Honey MIA? That illness stuff is just cover. See the real reason why (where?) Honey has had his head down at http://www.missprint.org/sinister/things/BritneyFarm.html where strange things appear between Britney's legs. Droit du Seigneur or somesuch. Bye Bye, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mcpuckett at xxx.com Wed Jul 12 22:12:38 2000 From: mcpuckett at xxx.com (#M. P.) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 21:12:38 GMT Subject: Sinister: Wish you were PENG!!! Message-ID: <20000712211238.79238.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear Sinister, I have a contribution to the Floydular conversation, sorry to say, but first - Have any of you listened to the Reverend Al Green lately? I'm not sure if you should or not, but if anyone has a chance to see him in person by all means make the effort! Don't be fooled by the JESUS! refrains, the man has sold his soul to the d-e-v-i-l I tell you. I'd imagine from recent debate that some of you would be a little disturbed to be getting your groove on next to a woman 3 times you age that knew *every* *single* *word*, but you'd be just plain wrong in my book. All this Floyd talk has me remembering that my very first reaction to B&S (IYFS) was not only "how 60's", but very specifically that it reminded me of Syd Barrett. After a little while it was hard to remember why I even thought that, but it probably had something to do with the the beautiful quirkiness of the melodies on that album. I can't remember the last time I actually wanted to listen to Pink Floyd, but I can remember an age when I did want to, which is more than I can say for most bands... On a similar note, I can't bring myself to buy the new Stereolab, which is distressing since a friend has done the engineering and/or production on the last 3 albums. There's nothing that's more annoying than not being able to compliment someone you know. BUT, I would never, ever miss a chance to see them live, which is a point I think worth making. They have a magical way of combining politics and pleasure that hasn't faded for me at all over the years. Not many bands have been able to maintain that for as long as they have. Still, there's nothing like the feeling when they light into the likes of Our Tritone Blast"... o.k. that's all, sorry for the ramble. Just to spice it up, I'll tell you that I hit a major milestone towards aldulthood last night. I was in the middle of it all when my girlfriend started laughing uncontrollably. "It's just so funny", she said. And I didn't even mind. matt ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From knightowl at xxx.net Wed Jul 12 23:52:50 2000 From: knightowl at xxx.net (Knightowl) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:52:50 -0400 Subject: Sinister: PROG ROCK, MY ARSE! References: <8025691A.0051EFC2.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Message-ID: <005601bfec54$67f9dee0$d81fd718@mountaincable.net> > The Floyd, eh? This is my favourite thread for some time and so long, although > I suppose much of my enjoyment is at poor old Knightowl's expense. I haven't actually lost any sleep yet. Maybe I'm in > the luxurious position of having never felt persecuted for my musical tastes, > but I think unswerving narrow-minded contempt for certain artists is really > quite funny. Obviously he doesn't. And here you're obviously mistaken. My humour simply tends more towards the subtler. But I am Canadian after all......... "Please don't let them make me be a monkey butler", Ed +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From edb213 at xxx.edu Wed Jul 12 23:52:42 2000 From: edb213 at xxx.edu (Eric D Brasure) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:52:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: self-abuse and the virtuous people Message-ID: I have nothing to share. sorry. the intent of the message is to beg (yes, I am typing this on my knees, and get all dirty thoughts out of your heads) anyone in the states (or anyplace which has access to the national broadcasting corporation, henceforth referred to as "nbc") that taped the "freaks and geeks" 3-episode mini-marathon on saturday night and would be willing to copy it and send it to me, please please please email me privately and tell me. I would greatly appreciate it. that is all. -eric "If you start out depressed, everything's a pleasant surprise." -Lloyd Dobler p.s. my email program has a command, "get help". ever feel that your computer is trying to tell you something? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From knightowl at xxx.net Thu Jul 13 00:01:08 2000 From: knightowl at xxx.net (Knightowl) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:01:08 -0400 Subject: Sinister: PROG ROCK, MY ARSE! References: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69014A3D4F@park_ex><003b01bfeadf$7059c080$d81fd718@mountaincable.net> Message-ID: <006101bfec55$1cda3120$d81fd718@mountaincable.net> > I am able to settle this argument once and for all. > > I am in the fortunate position of having never knowingly listened to > a Pink Floyd recording, and therefore have the unique perspective > that only such noble ignorance can allow one to achieve. The > following statement is my considered opinion and is, as such, > incontrovertible: > > Pink Floyd are f*cking shite. Fine use of logic. Ergo, the next Belle and Sebastian album is shite. Well, until I hear it it is anyway....... Ok, thats probably more than enough out of me. "Please don't let them make me be a monkey butler", Ed +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From FakingUpARampage at xxx.com Thu Jul 13 03:15:28 2000 From: FakingUpARampage at xxx.com (FakingUpARampage at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:15:28 EDT Subject: Sinister: what were you doing on your knees in the first place? Message-ID: <71.4d6da0f.269e8040@aol.com> rob asked : > Any suggestions for name? > Something better than Being Other People probably. sorry, but... what about 'the lazy line painters'? or 'the younger generation', if everyone in the band is alot younger then the actual b&s-ers. then again, everyone in the band would prolly be on here.. sinister could work too. people were talking about the field mice... i cant find the 'where'd you learn to kiss that way' comp anywhere!! does anyone know any online ordering places that has it? i've been having really bad luck finding cds latley.. i complained about not being able to find legal man.. and still havent gotten to the store where it supposedly is.. cos i cant beeping drive. argh. martin said : > Beyond the Sunrise is NOT crap; neither is it a B&S song. It's a GW song > which would sound better on IC's new LP. I reckon it sounds more like Lee > Hazelwood than Scott Walker though. thats an intesting point!!! would there be so much chatter about it were it just a gentle waves song? or would people just say 'oh, its isobel... its alright'... i have a feeling i prolly would. i hold b&s up to a higher standard than other bands, save for the pumpkins. thankyou to everyone who told me what 'landslide' is all about.. but special thanks to david moore for not knowing it off the top of his head and looking in honey's archives... and then he made a cute lil change to my s/n... tho i dont know what it means and maybe i should be insulted. they scare me.. by the way. the archives i mean. not name changes. but they're all massive and such. and i never seem to actually find what i'm looking for, even tho i remember the exact post and what it said, just not when or who or anything that could be handy. i believe it was carsmile steve.. but i'm not positive.. told me the error of my ways in asking that sinister be spelt right at the bottom.. so, yes.. i'm a brat, shoot me.. i'm sorry, honey ignore me. not to imply that you were paying attention in the first place since you are sick after all and prolly cant be bothered with all this.. , but everyone knows what i mean. :) by the way, i agree with chris that there will be a large group of american dissidents to canada... i think i'll be one of them, please and thankyou. i'm going to complain to everyone about what happened today/yesterday. i have horses. i horse show. its a large part of my life. however, it seems that recently i have been sucking at what i do with the horses. yesterday my horse, after being a total shit while i was trying to exercise him and actually lying down during, ran out of his stall when i put him back and out of the barn. i caught him while he was eating a piece of grass and brought him back in. later that evening, right before i was going to bed i got a call from the woman who owns the barn telling me that my horse was colicing (tummy ache) and to come over. so i do. and i walk him around in circles for 2 hours. which i dont mind. however, what i do mind is that its all blamed on me. and now, i miss my show tomorrow. so i still show on saturday, but not tomorrow. and everyone thinks i'm a total idiot. which is even worse. so i'm sad. and i'll shut up now. xoxo Jes +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Thu Jul 13 08:42:41 2000 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 08:42:41 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Tall Enough To Reach The Ground Message-ID: <20000713074241.28585.qmail@web1704.mail.yahoo.com> Hello you lot, prog rock? You say Pink Floyd, well I say Yes. Yes! Yes! Rick Wakeman could kick all your collective arses, including Pink BLUDEH Floyds. He's so cool. I have a YES! postcard lurking about in my room somewhere. It was drawn by a bored Oxfordshire teenager. It used to be on my wall, then I moved! So now it has to be on ......wait for it......Another Brick In The Wall! Ahahahhahahaha oh dear not even I saw something that bad coming. I've talked to Stephin Merritt about prog rock you know. Well, maybe made one comment, then ran away going "oh my god I really am an arse". But at least my love for YES! has made a worthy impression on my life. Well it certainly hasn't made me grow a big beard yet. I read a book on Rick Wakeman too. He's fucking great! He's a lad, he likes curries - whats wrong with knowing something about the theoretical side of music and putting it on ice skates, eh? I bet those Sexy Pistols were dead jealous, I bet they were all like, to the 100 Club going "ere guv'nr, we're Ye Olde Sexy Pistols and we wanna do our POONK RAWK on ice thangyewverymuch". And Mr Promotor went "Feck orf" - as all known cockneys are said to have spoken in the "seventies". And Johnny Rotten went "grooo you're so MEAN!", and ripped up his nice new tshirt. Which is how POOK RAWK started. See, even the three chord antithesis of prog rock was indeed caused by prog itself. I don't care about Pink Floyd by the way, but YES! are great. I bet Rick Wakeman would get his round in, down the pub. So, a Barcelona meet up? Can I come? I'll bring my own fresh veg. Oh, and I'm not going to speak any Spanish, and I'll really annoy everyone by singing "Barcelona", by Queen. ALL THE TIME! I like the Pop band, Barcelona me. But I don't know why. They support DC United for petes sake. Does anyone support DC United on this list? If so, no offence but you're thick. I support METROSTARS, cos I'm great. Someone wrote: > All this Floyd talk has me remembering that my very first reaction to B&S > (IYFS) was not only "how 60's", but very specifically that it reminded me of > Syd Barrett. Well, I know Where Syd Barrett Lives. And Harvey from Hawkwind. Can we have a TV Personalities thread now, please? Oops. Best go to work. Sarah x PS: If anyone knows of a mail order place in the Uk which will sell me the KittyCraft record straight away, do let me know. Ordering from abroad is such a fag, innit? PPS: I forget to namecheck people so they'd reply to what I said in a chummy manner. Whoops. ===== Write: Stars de Luxe! http://www.egroups.com/starsdeluxe "Why did I ever waste my time on Westlife!" - Ronan Keating ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DelyM2 at xxx.com Thu Jul 13 03:55:04 2000 From: DelyM2 at xxx.com (DelyM2 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:55:04 EDT Subject: Sinister: Androgynous Mind Message-ID: <200007130253.DAA04383@missprint.org> Ive been told that Canada is full of conspirisies. I probably shouldn't be uttering a word of this..but Canada is actually only the size of RHode island.maybe less. and the air is unsuitable for most human beings. Those canadians have evolved lungs. creepy. This women was talking to me today about belle and sebastian. she mentioned that she saw them in Point Pleasant, nj. Did they actually play there? or was she some kind of undercover canadian? chickfactor sounds to me like something simon and garfunkle might sing. which is a good thing. but im probably way off on that, no? (these are mostly rhetorical questions, im not really interested in answers) I think Wisconsin has some demons itself. Supposedly it is actually Hell. imagine that. (there is some evidence to back this up. but i dont recall any of it) so long +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lfo_mod at xxx.com Thu Jul 13 03:37:16 2000 From: lfo_mod at xxx.com (Marco Del Castillo) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:37:16 +0800 Subject: Sinister: re: the iced bears ... Message-ID: <396D2B5C.8F4E8A3E@digitalres.com> hey hey Joseph, Ahahahah, Yes ... I am afraid that you are right. Silly me. Teehee. But the Field Mice used another name in that fashion during one of their early gigs. I think it was 13. I forgot. The group with the number 14 was older yes ... hmmmnnn, I should lessen my dose of caffeine once in a while. :) Ciao. Marco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chrislampinen at xxx.com Thu Jul 13 10:07:14 2000 From: chrislampinen at xxx.com (chris lampinen) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 05:07:14 EDT Subject: Sinister: just say NO to YES. Message-ID: <20000713090715.23690.qmail@hotmail.com> OK. Mentioning Yes was SUCH a mean thing to do. I'm having flashbacks. The scene: Pine Knob in Michigan. The situation: A poor boy tricked into seeing aforementioned band perform by a 'friend.' Here I was, a naive little boy wandering around in a b&s shirt, gawking at the stoned bikers wandering around with women half their age and the extremely old men on the stage. I thought 'well, I've never heard this band before. Maybe they're good.' And then the vocalist spoke, his words a high pitched, eerie squeel. I wanted to cry. And then...and then...he sang. It was horrible. The bikers gently swayed. The animals took refuge. I slowly tore at my face hoping the pain would distract me from the awful sounds surrounding me. It didn't. Twenty minute songs that started nowhere and ended in roughly the same spot after meandering around in a rather sloppy circle were chained together almost seamlessly. Every brief refuge from the horrible 'music' was ruined by Mr. Singer talking. My friend asked me if I thought the band sucked. I said 'Yes.' Bad pun, but true. I'm sorry. I hate to be so negative..but it was just such a horrible show. It hurts to be reminded of. But maybe talking about it will help a bit. Tomorrow is a new day. I will ride my bicycle to the park. I will swing while listening to b&s. I will be watched by the policemen. I WILL overcome my Yes experience. I think I can I think I can I think I can.. With as much love as a mind tainted by seeing Yes live can offer, christiaan ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Thu Jul 13 11:00:52 2000 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 03:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Til the rain dies down Message-ID: <20000713100052.7023.qmail@web1609.mail.yahoo.com> I love a good off-topic discussion and this Pink Floyd business is brilliant. I particularly enjoy the really earnest posts. You lot are fab, you know that? Why are Pink Floyd pink? It's a bit of a girlie-puff colour to choose, isn't it? Pink Floyd played at one of my Dad's college dances, but I think they were called The Pink Floyd then. So did The Who, but that was in the sixties, so there was NO SEEKER!!!! Of course, he's still gutted he never got to see them perform such a classic and even more gutted that he never witnessed Rog flailing the lengthy fringing of his jacket about the stage in a cowboy styleee. I've got a picture of him doing that and he looks just GRATE. And why have we stopped saying GRATE? Who was it who got annoyed every time somebody wrote GRATE? Are you annoyed now? Ha! I'm in a funny mood today. It's probably because I haven't seen the sunshine for weeks and weeks and London is looking positively murky today too. In the interests of Sinisterines having meet-ups in the next few days, I have again done a little research into the wevver (at http://www.met-office.gov.uk) and have come up with the following: Sheffield on Saturday - 17 degrees and a white cloud London on Saturday - 19 degrees with a white cloud, a sun peeking out from behind it and a raindrop Barcelona today - 26 degrees with a great big sunshine. You bastards. Will somebody in Barcelona please take a picture of Peter Miller? I'm dying to know what he looks like. I bet he's a fox. Nick Dastoor laughs at books. I laugh at boots. Yellow boots. But I really get in a lather when every other woman on the train is reading a book with a pastel jacket and whacky lettering that's about somebody called Jemima or Tiffany. They always seem to have daisies on them as well. I've never read one of those books, but I can't stand them. Much as I can't stand Pink Floyd, even though I've never heard them. Oops. I've just had an email from the NME telling me there'll be no B&S dates for a year. Goodness me, they're on the ball. Juicy Lucy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jazzed_carpenter at xxx.com Thu Jul 13 12:07:50 2000 From: jazzed_carpenter at xxx.com (amazing grace . . . .) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:07:50 BST Subject: Sinister: A year wasting? Message-ID: <20000713110750.47669.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello folks, ooh dear, I have just hit that point where the fact that I have a three month summer holiday has lost all novelty and is instead becoming a bit of a burden. I'd love to spend a summer wasting, but i just can't seem to make the time pass pleasantly. And now even the anticipation of a mad dash for B+S tickets seems to be slipping away. That is if nme.com are to be trusted, although that seems a mute point considering the fact that the nme massive have made it quite obvious they hate both the band and their fans, and would no doubt find claiming the band have given up on the idea of touring a humorous bit of japery. Woh, a long sentance there, and not a very well structured one, dear me, basic linguistic skills are fast leaving me. Apart from that, my FYHCYWLAP album was stolen by a girl who quite obviously was not going to appreciate it. ooh, maybe that's being snobby, and elitist, something I try not to be, but she just threw her New Look beclothed body and bleached ponytail all over me and than ran off with a pile of c.ds. So now even lying around in the park has been denied me. hmmm, I guess the fact that one of them was a Belle and Sebastian c.d is the only thing that saves that from being completely off topic, but I have to have a grumble somewhere. Returning to the on topicness of this message, has there been an official sinister announcement about the lack of tour that I have randomly deleted or is it just nme talking out of their ever shit filled arses. I can understand all that stuff about no more singles and the wrong girl video being just for fun, but I had been hoping for a tour. Selfish little me. Still, the Jeepster spokesman seems to think that unpredictability is the beauty of Belle and Sebastian. Which is a sentiment I'm sure I would appreciate more fully were I not bored out of my brains. cheerio for now, Grace And she spent the rest of the day separating the bits from the marmalade, or, if you prefer, the marmalade from the bits. - Roger Hargreaves ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Thu Jul 13 12:06:56 2000 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 23:06:56 +1200 Subject: Sinister: I am disappointed by my favourite band (for the first time) Message-ID: <000701bfecba$92b26420$eb6137d2@computer> ***LET'S GET THE RANT OUT OF THE WAY FIRST*** Well, let me start by saying I am really annoyed about B&S's refusal to tour or release another single. "They've just decided to have a year off. The way things stand at the moment, there aren't going to be any dates this year or any more singles. They could change their minds next week, but I wouldn't hold your breath." quote Katrina House. (I presume) "That's the beauty of Belle And Sebastian" No, that's what REALLY bugs the fans, and gives slimly little toads like Steve Wells all his ammunition. I don't know why this irritates me so much, because here in New Zealand it's unlikely I'd ever see them play anyway, but I just have to ask myself "WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING?" Taking a break from the rigourous promotional duties from the last album. Oh, that's right - one bloody press conference and a 10 minute phone call to Steve Wells. And that was it. The album must have been finished about 4-6 months ago, so what have they been doing since then?I though Stevie was planning for more chart toppers? Obviously not huh? Enjoy your holiay, kids. I guess what bugs me about this is that it will be see as an archly indie guesture on their part. When in fact it isn't. It's the kind of thing bands like Def Leppard and Genesis can afford to do. Release an album every five years, and then disappear. A "real" indie band would be gigging, writing and making music. But to me this feels like Belle & Sebastian just cna't be bothered. They know sad bastards like us will hang off every beautiful note they record, will buy the new album on the day it comes out, so why try harder. I really am quite disappointed. it's not like the band owes me (or any of their fans) anything, I just think it ould be nice if the made some EFFORT. oh well ..... no "Lonliness of a Middle Distance Runner" single for me this year. (sigh) ***THE FIELD MICE*** Had 15 mails from people about yesterday's request. 14 said they were great, one said they were "ok". So I ordered the album ..... ***NICK DRAKE LIVE*** I met someone who saw Nick Drake play live! This middle aged guy who works at Borders here in Auckland. he's from the UK, and was really into all Joe Boyd's "Witchseason" stuff in the late 60's/early 70's. Anyway, he saw Nick Drake as a support act for someone. His story checked out too ... or at least, if he was lying, he at least went to the effort to read the biography before spinning the tale. Wow .... Nick Drake live, mmmmmmmm. (and does anyone think the person who played Titus Groan as a 17 year old in "Gormenghast" looks EXACTLY Like Nick?) ***STEPHEN "TIN TIN" DUFFY*** Much underrated. I have all The Lilac Time albums (you can get them dead cheap on eBay at times ...) and they're wonderful - especially "Paradise Circus". I'm sure many B&S fans would find something to enjoy in Lilac Time albums. ***DAPHNE & CELESTE*** I am thoroughly convinced that these girls have accomplished what Primal Scream have been *trying* to do for the last few years - make a subversive art-punk-disco record. And probably with the drugs. Gotta love those kids .... Well, goodnight everyone ... it's WAY past my bedtime. Lawrence Mikkelsen http://www.akn.quik.co.nz/mikelsen/aboutme +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian_rolfe at xxx.com Thu Jul 13 14:06:57 2000 From: ian_rolfe at xxx.com (Ian Rolfe) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 06:06:57 -0700 Subject: Sinister: bobby davro is very silly indeed Message-ID: <200007131306.GAA10709@mail17.bigmailbox.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From LunaLilly at xxx.com Thu Jul 13 18:00:53 2000 From: LunaLilly at xxx.com (LunaLilly at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 13:00:53 EDT Subject: Sinister: can't breathe with these words in my mouth Message-ID: Yes..hi. I face a challenge of trying to get something accomplished. I am in my pj's and it is ofcourse noon. I can't have caffeine for 2 days....I have on day left. All because of this damn screening thing I have to do tomorrow. How the hell does caffeine affect whether I am physically fit enough to be a human lab rat? Oh well. I hate Pink Floyd. I really like Flin Flon...does anyone else? No one here has heard of them. Like I am shocked. I live in Nebraska for god's sake. Not all that bad....but a bit top 40. Poor me. So I liked that story someone sent about the cows running to the otherside of the field at sunset. I like to talk to cows too. All animals really make good friends. Even bears and snakes. But I can just see the cows frolicking and it sounds all to cute. Isn't it sad to see them in there natural habitat though and how they do like to frolic and nurture there babies? And then to know that someone will be eating them? sniff sniff. Oh enough of that. I am a hypocrite because I bought this lovely vintage leather coat and I simply can't wait for the months to turn cool. And also I am going to be in Glasgow and I want to know if it's true about Stuart working in a church. (that was my B&S content) Oh and I will say that I think Sarah is much better than Isobelle. By miles. And my fave song on the new album is Woman's Realm. Does anyone care though? Also a very warm thank you to those who responded to my last email of sadness. I am not all that better but it was so good to feel the kindness of strangers. I am sorry if I haven't responded yet. I will. Ok enough. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nessamalone at xxx.net Thu Jul 13 18:29:26 2000 From: nessamalone at xxx.net (nessa) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 18:29:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: fake karaoke machines References: <000701bfecba$92b26420$eb6137d2@computer> Message-ID: <006a01bfecf0$59fe2fc0$a7e0869f@p5l9l8> b+s not touring or that kinda thing: we just got an album and a single. And I'd definitely like to think that I'm not slavish, but I'm sated for now. 2001 isn't that far away. Only abotu 7 months. And 7 months before may everyone was already speculating about new albums. So relax. Pink Floyd: I share the same opinions as Lucy. I hate books w/ covers w/ daisies on them about women w/ fluffy names despite never having read one either. And I hate Pink Floyd w/o ever really having heard them too. I know they're not my kind of thing, and those masks they had on the walls of big chain record shops when they rereleased the Wall live or whatever it was last year. And a year or two ago I was in English and ended up sitting next to a Q reader who was shouting to her friend across the classroom and was singing 'another brick in the wall' to her and trying to get her to recognise it. She said something like 'even she would recognise it', referring to me and what she percieved as my lack of knowledge about 'important' and 'seminal' songs like 'another brick in the wall'. She was wrong, I didn't recognise it, but that was b/c I didn't care which was obviously cooler in the long run. And thats how to make a lot of waffle out of nothing. daphne + celeste: Apparantly one of them is 21, into hip hop, and has never heard her own album. Quelle surprise. Doesn't make them not great tho. nessa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Thu Jul 13 20:00:19 2000 From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: black black black black car Message-ID: <20000713190019.19201.qmail@web108.yahoomail.com> peeps, and canadians, and people who want to be canadians, i can't stop thinking about stuart's muscle car. today i saw a shiny burgundy charger and got all happy. i even went and saw "gone in 60 seconds" (which is rotten. except for the cars, of course. nicholas cage with his so-called "minimalist" acting. pshaw. okay, i liked face-off, but still, if he grew his hair back to raising arizona length and put a panty on his head, we'd all be happier for it. but you can't bring back the past.) but it's about more than just the car. it's about how one's form of tranportation affects one's life and personality. will there be road trip and drag racing songs in stuart's songwriting near-future? the interesting thing is meshing the car with public transport and bicycling. it's not all or nothing; it's more complex than that. and we must like complexity. yeah! ie, i ride a bike. i should hate cars. but i do not. do i 'act' ironically in a car? oh the inherent contradictions of the 20+. am i being ironic? i don't know, i'm not dancing. wait, irony doesn't deserve this much attention any more. let's all ignore irony from now on. good. (according to a dictionary of literary terms, "To be an effective piece of sustained irony, there must be some sort of audience tip-off, through style, tone, use of clear exaggeration, or other device." we should ignore this too. that just makes irony feel all special and cool when it is cleary, like, *not*.) personally, i'm going to turn my attentions to synecdoche. i would definitely like to say wow and thanks to amy jackson for having such a great quote at the bottom of a recent post. positively one of the best simpsons moments! yeah! bees and dogs and dogs with bees in their mouths... yes. something vaguely serious for a moment: the 'thin or not too thin' topic that's been going on lately (or not so lately. things take me a while) round these parts is very interesting. i just wanted to pipe up about media influence though. while perhaps not always obvious/direct, media definitely plays a role in how people, in this case mostly women, view their bodies and form their identities. eating disorders are an extreme, and of course influenced by more than the media, as so many things are (the media doesn't make you do something, your crappy childhood/abandonment issues/heartsick malaise do...) researchers are still trying to understand just what role media does play, so just because there isn't much research available out there doesn't mean something isn't going on, especially when you're talking about research into women's health. i'm going on like this b/c i'm a rambler (no, not the car) and i happen to work in a women's health research centre *and* we've just published a report on creating a research agenda on the topic of young women, eating disorders and the media. and i'm a little obsessed with all things media. so yeah. i'm not meaning to sound pedantic, it's just all very interesting stuff. i saw a band from seattle called Octant a couple weekends ago. and do you know what they have? nope, not bulimia. a ROBOT DRUMMER! ooh, it's neat. unfortunately it does not have dryer-hose-like arms and a metal body, rather it is made up of two big black boxes drumlike in nature with drum sticks on them. but it works very well and the band sounds damn fine. robots. also: Arling & Cameron are touring again! go see them, they are great fun. a secret about canadians: every time there is a mention of canada by someone/something outside of canada we feel an irrepresible glee which becomes something of a guilty glee which then becomes more of a self-doubting inability to accept praise. it's in the canadian lineage, sorry. in turn we (yes, all of us) produce brilliant sketch comedy. lately, we have produced a late-night talk show, but no one will fess up to who's fault this is. it really does say something though about canada when someone as unentertaining as mike bullard can hold a monopoly on non-cable late night cdn talk shows. there oughta be a revolution. ha har. a subtle revolution. ah. ha. that's what it says about canada. which also says that i love canada, as intangible and distanced as that love might be. sort of like loving dragonfruit and calling it gragonfruit. yum, canada. yes, so. i just got back from being in toronto for a week and it struck me as so much more glam than fleece-vests-and-eddie-bauer-khakis vancouver. the toronto mod club night features the phrase "secure scooter parking" on its ad cards even. and, believe me, this amenity is taken full advantage of. fab-u-lous. what do people think of pop music from the 50s? (yeah, *all* of it, that's right.) i had a 50s-pop-music-related experience on the plane back here. i was flipping through the 4 or so stations on the canada 3000 plane dial and one was devoted to oldies. and i found myself digging it. the thing is: 50s/oldies music used to make me nervous and edgy and in some ways kind of physically ill. (this didn't apply to elvis, buddy holly and a few other bands though for some reason.) now i find it great, though i didn't have any conscious realization about this; it was just suddenly good. whereas before it was just all, well, icky and laced with the whole image of perfect 50s living, the image of new and wonderful things clouding out a harsh reality. and that's still sort of there, but it doesn't wreck the music any more. strange. it's like i had an epiphany in my sleep. what to do, what to do... i'm sure there must be big huge box sets of 50s pop that i can purchase second hand somewhere. i don't know what i'm getting myself into with that though... maybe i should stick with the crate of 60s soul. well, i'm glad to have re-emerged from wherever i was that was making me feel distanced from electronic communication. as usual, i blame the weather. loof, robyn "you woke up at 3pm and showered for hours, watched porn all alone for the evening, it never really got you anywhere except back in the shower." -aislers set ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris at xxx.uk Thu Jul 13 20:02:26 2000 From: chris at xxx.uk (chris browning) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 20:02:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: welcomes and stuff Message-ID: <000201bfed03$1e377920$4c57883e@pbncomputer> hello, i'm new. well i was on the list a couple of years ago. but left. and now i'm back. but like anyone cares....! numerously... * methinks "judy is a dickslap" sounds less like stereolab and more like joe meek's tip-top-tastic "telstar", one of mrs t's favourite platters apparently. as well as cradle of filth. one of these by the way is a lie. the stereolab influence is probably thus by osmosis as it were. what the hell that means is anyone's guess... joe meek by the way should be investigated by one and all. "i hear a new world" is bluddy grate scary electronica and lived by aphex twin and stuff and belongs in your collection next to your raymond scott albums... * pink floyd - agree with everyone standing up for syd. syd was a genius, piper is mad genius stuff (go and check out robyn hitchcock and the soft boys to see where it could have all lead to) and the solo stuff - well...if you like your mad scary breakdown records like "pink moon" and "sister lovers" then do try "the madcap laughs" and "barrett" 'cos you can almost hear the man fracture on record. unbearably sad, but unbearably fascinating as well.... * trembling blue stars/fieldmice. never clocked on that "her handwriting" was a quote from the go-betweens at all. and then, tonight i was listening to chet baker and along came "you don't know what love is" and the line "lips that taste of tears". blimey charlie. mr wratten has a damn good record collection don't he folks? * "fold your hands.." this sounds tremendously twee. but it isn't. but my niece was a huge fan of the secret garden TV show from the seventies, and there is a line she took great pleasure in that went "fold your arms child you look like a wooden doll". which she would then repeat at ever more hyper volumes. what i thought of immediately. okay. i admit it. frances hodgson burnett rocks my world. i am a wet and weed. hello trees hello flowers. oh and i don;t think much of the album either sad to say. bit - well - weak. like the muted colour on the cover compared to the bold red of "sinister", the songs seem devoid of any oomph. some are nice, but tepid is the word springing to mind. and i really REALLY did want to love it... *left banke (and this is final for me - promise. first time and outstaying welcome already. must learn to be less verbose) - when i first heard "the model" my first thoughts were "by crikey this *is* 'i've got something on my mind' " - and what do i find? the lads and ladesses covered the bleeder....small world... anyway i shall be off now. crispy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cellophanesky at xxx.com Thu Jul 13 20:59:33 2000 From: cellophanesky at xxx.com (Brian Pennington) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:59:33 -0400 Subject: Sinister: A Proper Summer Wasting Message-ID: Hello, After reading Grace's post about not spending a proper summer wasting, I realized that I'm doing an excellent job of it. No job (haha, no pun intended), just finished uni, writing songs, getting probably the closest I've come to being drunk on my birthday (blame my little brother), going swimming, driving about and taking photographs. Summer's not so bad when you have centralized air-conditioning and live with your parents. As long as it's only one summer. One real summer...no that was last summer. I wonder if every summer from here on in will somehow connect to an excellent popsong... Next topic, Television Personalities. Whatever happened to Dan Treacy? Last I heard he disappeared off the face of the Earth! Was it just a fitting stunt, or did he really go missing? Did they find him? Meanwhile, back on topic...no singles 'til 2001 either, eh? That's a bit of a shame, I was hoping for a Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner single as much as many of you. I recall somewhere reading Struan thought it was the best song they'd written up until that time. Oh well, patience is called for... I don't think this isn't the 'indie' thing to do, apparently it's the 'Belle & Sebastian' thing to do though. Hey, at least they aren't Kevin Shields after all. We as fans have no right to clamor for quicker release of songs. They're artists (like Koons, Monet and Dada) and let them take their time. Besides, I got a mailorder package today, and I must say this is turning out to be an exceptional year for music and for new-ish bands. Stars & Clientele EPs, new Trembling Blue Stars single, and I'm aquiver waiting for the next Montgolfier Brothers album. Mmmm. What's more, they just put out an album and single you know, it's probably better to get the EPs to fill up the holes between albums than it is to have them come out only when the albums do. Like all of the prior EPs did. Am I the only one looking forward to the impending tabs/piano music/lyrics books? I probably can't manage the guitar parts but I think I can handle some of the piano parts. How many bands put out books with piano parts? None I can think of that I like, anyway. On come allegro, on come piano, on forte, on pianissimo, on sfortsando (never knew how to spell that so I probably butchered it, but it's the little sF). I'll be waiting with bated breath. Felt very productive today. I woke up relatively early for my slugly summer-wasting ways, got a haircut. I think that's what it is. All that hair's off my head so I can move it around quicker and think faster, therefore getting more done. Must be it. And then on top of that I got that package of records. John, I hope this Noonday Underground 7" is good... and anyway, after seeing all the stylish sleeves, premeditated prose introductions, photographs of Japanese poptstars and hearing all the pop (dare I say P!...no I don't dare) music, it just inspires me to get off my rear end and make something. That and my hair being much lighter, of course. -- Brian Pennington, aka Mick McMick | cellophanesky at mac.com | ICQ# 39021436 Sandcastle Records: the Cellophane Sky: "Better a tear of truth than smiling lies." - Duncan Browne +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com Thu Jul 13 20:34:26 2000 From: Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com (Paul Rudolph) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:34:26 -0400 Subject: Sinister: that philosphy of Lloyd Dobler-aim low, I believe? Message-ID: <0056750020955727000002L572*@MHS> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From pixidustlady at xxx.uk Thu Jul 13 21:20:23 2000 From: pixidustlady at xxx.uk (the original pixidustlady) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 21:20:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: help Message-ID: <003701bfed07$e0edd460$73ca28c3@pixidustlady> 8:37pm (GMT) shit shit shit. confrontation and screaming. im just so tired. dont want to be here in this awful awful atmosphere anymore.* i should never have come home. ---------------------------------------------------------- [ >Oh and my dad likes the Floyd therefore they're poo. ] [ ] [ Rob Brennan : I pity you. ] ---------------------------------------------------------- i shall continue reading my digests until i find something else to comment on * this is not about the list, just me blowing off steam about my personal life. sorry 8:58pm (GMT) Mick McMick wrote: >Why don't you buy Her Handwriting by >Trembling Blue Stars, because it's the same main fellow from the >Field Mice, and it's one of the best albums ever. i once heard a song by trembling blue stars on John Peel, and i absolutely loved it. since then, i've heard nothing more of them, and the experience had faded from my memory, until mick mentioned the band. thankyou for bringing that back to the forefront of my mind, and giving me an album title to hunt down in my local record shop. it all came flooding back into my mind in a torrent, and despite my outwardly motionless state, it was one of the nicest things i've thought about today. just goes to show me that things can get a little bit better just when you least expect it. ---------------------------- peter miller said some nice things about the floyd, and made an imporatant point about Syd: >My view is that when Syd went away, he took all the >personality with him. That's why later Floyd sounds dull, and also why so >many people like it so much. Syd Barret was amazing. his solo stuff was mental. i totally agree with you peter. ---------------------------- #M.P. said some good stuff about Syd Barrett too. well said sir! ......i know what you mean....... my mood has improved considerably whilst i hav e read my digests. thanks everyone, it will be a better night with no nightmares because of you all. i worry sometimes about how things can seem fine and then fall apart so quickly. the fragility of 'life and what you make of it' becomes so apparent and unavoidable, it's quite disheartening. i try to make the best of it, and enjoy myself at the same time, but in the end there is always somebody somewhere waiting, with a few harsh words and negative expectations, just waiting to smash everything you've worked so hard to build up. and it always happens, to me at least. then all you're left with is a lingering sense of futility, because you've come to realise that the world will never let you win. those are the times i hate myself. i used to blame myself for the world and the way it treated me. then i found belle and sebastian. its never that bad and we're never alone. this is what b&s taught me. this is why you (the sinister collective) bring me comfort (without even realising). everybody please take a bow, cos i'm applauding you all. i feel comfortable enough now to reveal my name. this is karen, saying thankyou and sweet dreams.......... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ssonner at xxx.com Thu Jul 13 23:06:11 2000 From: ssonner at xxx.com (Sarah Garrett Sonner) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 22:06:11 GMT Subject: Sinister: link, librarians, late landing Message-ID: <20000713220611.96997.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello List. Too bad alliteration doesn't start with an L. I'm de-lurking for a third time, firstly cause I don't think anyone's posted about last week's Pitchfork review of FYHSJKHCKAJFALP. If so, sorry if this is a repeat. It's written in a particularly timely format for those just now getting to see High Fidelity. Read it at: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/b/belle-and-sebastian/fold-your-hands-child.shtml . They get some facts wrong but I have to forgive them since they don't include the usual regurgitated band history we've all read before. (I owe big thanks to T.S.P. for telling me about this site in the first place.) Secondly, I must add my out-of-tune voice to the defense of all current and former librarians, myself in the latter category. Having done hard retail labor as well, I find it's the counter between people that makes things like respect and common decency suddenly disappear. Remember kids, Hefner don't write songs about just any old profession, you know. The whole argument consisting of "yes (P*nk Fl*yd/Electronic Renaissance) sucks"/"no it doesn't" reminds me of the schism between Dewey Decimal Systems and Library of Congress, as I felt loyalties sharply divided at my former place of employment. I've been reading a book about book thieves lately, too. It's called "The GENTLE Madness." (emphasis mine.) Wheels within wheels. Thirdly, when it comes to celebrities, TV or non, I treat them all the same. That is, when I see them, I walk past them. This has happened enough to be classified as a pattern. Quentin Tarantino, Hugh Downs, Jarvis Cocker, and Robbie Williams. Well, that last one's a stretch, since he came into a cafe/deli where I was eating and bought a bottle of water and looked around in apprehension before exiting. So I guess he was the one doing the walking. And Lenny from Sha-na-na once put up my ex-boyfriend's Christmas tree. Or was that John Holmes? Or Tom Jones? Oh I forget. Fourthly, I'm glad Robyn brought up Stuart's car. It's become rather inseparable from my image of him. My first car was a shiny black 1949 Plymouth Special Deluxe that I sadly had to part with. If I ever met Stuart I'd be more likely to talk about cars than music. Then again I'll most likely just pass him by. Is he a gearhead? Dreamy. Fifthly, hey Magda: do sort-of-covers of soul songs count? The Donnas rhyme "I saw him standing at a rock'n'roll show/ somebody told me that his name was Bruno" in their version of Da Doo Ron Ron. Rockabilly wouldn't count there either, but Clint Miller sings such timeless lyrics as "Bertha Lou, gotta get a date with you" and "I want to conjugate with you." Sixthly, and most difficult to pronounce, too bad I'll be arriving over there just shy (in two meanings) of the London picnic date. Give a holler if you see me in the next 2 weeks--I'm extremely tall, intimidating, and nearsighted, and I'll be wearing my spy apparel and spending money on shoes and records. See you kids later, xxx Sarah ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brian_away at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 03:47:24 2000 From: brian_away at xxx.com (Brian Phillips) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 19:47:24 PDT Subject: Sinister: Cardigans, Canada, Katie Holmes Message-ID: <20000714024724.80268.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello kids. First post out of the nursery, trying to hit the floor running, covering several recent topics... 1. THE Magda Boom commented something to the effect that skateboarding boys who listen to Hip Hop and have rice pudding spilled on their cardigans would be a funny sight. Oddly, that combination (sans rice pudding) is pretty common, I thought. Sounds like a lot of my friends. 2. The suggestion that a celebrity thread be discussed: They film "Dawson's Creek" near me in NC, and a lot of people I know have seen Katie Holmes here and there. One co-worker CLAIMS to have brushed against her shoulder in a club. 3. Canada. Those sneaky Northern neigbors of ours, with their maple syrup and lumberjacks. I must say that Kids in the Hall was one of the best TV shows ever. "Touch Paul Bellini" Yeah! 4. My new room mate owns every Jean Claude Van Damme movie ever. He drinks Gatorade and watches bad action movies all day. Then he goes to the gym. The struggle continues... Hope I'm doing this right Take care Brian \m/ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From knightowl at xxx.net Fri Jul 14 03:57:27 2000 From: knightowl at xxx.net (Knightowl) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 22:57:27 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Tall Enough To Reach The Ground References: <20000713074241.28585.qmail@web1704.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005e01bfed3f$a9f39a20$d81fd718@mountaincable.net> > Can we have a TV Personalities thread now, please? Ah lovely. Finally a good bit of sinister sarcasm and a fine sense of humour. No, there'll be no TVP threads, but a Twink and the Fairies thread is way over due. Think Pink, Ed PS - Rick Wakeman wore lovely dresses. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DelyM2 at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 04:35:02 2000 From: DelyM2 at xxx.com (DelyM2 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 23:35:02 EDT Subject: Sinister: Yikes! My Posts are ..dare i say..crap.. Message-ID: <200007140333.EAA29907@missprint.org> I saw a very young boy today with his sister and mother. They were crossing from the parking lot to the mall. (sounds exciting enough, eh?) so anyway..the young boy had this big bad video camera in his hand. he was all smiles video taping his mom and sister looking all sister and mom like whilst trying to get him out of the path of traffic. It was nice to see such a young kid having so much fun making his first indie movie. (i say first to add to the drama of this post) PS: B&S +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Rickbozard at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 06:30:31 2000 From: Rickbozard at xxx.com (Rickbozard at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 01:30:31 EDT Subject: Sinister: is this why you get beaten up in england Message-ID: <6.8afde4f.269fff77@aol.com> Okay kids, what the hell is going on? Since a flutter of worthwhile posting that occoured when there was actual belle and sebastian activity taking place, this list has been degenerating into pathetic, post-ironic mush. You people have been talking about pink floyd for christ's sake! Why don't we just start some grand forum on Styx? At least this prog rock nonsense is a break from the pathetic, whiny diary pieces that comprise the rest of the list. The posts often seem like overdrawn carictures of the sort of whiny loser that detractors view belle and sebastian fans as being. And frankly, when you start having b+s dreams, it's high time to commit suicide. I encourage a ban on non-b+s related material (and no, slipping b+s into your pathetic storys about crying at the supermarket doesn't count). I'd be perfectly willing to lift the ban if someone were to submit a well written, interesting piece that didn't have anything to do with actual news about b+s. However if recent trends continue you whiny bastards would be banned for life. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MCFC9 at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 07:02:34 2000 From: MCFC9 at xxx.com (MCFC9 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 02:02:34 EDT Subject: Sinister: is this why you get beaten up in england Message-ID: I find the anecdotal posts to be witty, post-ironic and very entertaining. And now for one lie and one bit of truth. LIE: I love Styx, they rock my world. Truth: I think I'm in love with Magda Boom. Is that so wrong? Mike Twee monster with a bowler hat. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From RythSoul at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 07:15:17 2000 From: RythSoul at xxx.com (RythSoul at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 02:15:17 EDT Subject: Sinister: Is it just me or am I sensing a little hostility? Re:is this why you get beaten Message-ID: <9a.72ce342.26a009f5@aol.com> Wow...i think someone needs to get some action? What do you all think? The whole time I was reading Mr. Bozard's mail I couldn't help but wonder how someone could be so pissed off about a few little posts dropped off in his mailbox each day. Hey Rick...I think it's called anger management classes my friend. I mean come on..suggesting someone commit suicide because of a few dreams...whoa...taking it a little far there, don't ya' think. I mean I will admit, When i first read people were having b&s dreams I thought it was a little kooky, a little bit strange, but hey..i don't think anyone should die because of it. maybe that's just me though, i don't know. After a while I started to enjoy reading them. what else am i going to spend my time doing? after all, i have no life. that is what you think of us, right RIck? But hey, that's cool...everyone is entitled to their own opinion and all that bullshit. oh yeah. i almost forgot. the other night I had the strangest dream that i was running through a meadow with stu d. oh no..i just slit my wrists. damn it to hell. later kids- lissa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From declan63 at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 07:21:57 2000 From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 02:21:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: is this why you get beaten up in england References: <6.8afde4f.269fff77@aol.com> Message-ID: <000c01bfed5b$d03e1680$2a101218@athen1.ga.home.com> i don't believe anyone has forced you read this or be here, nor have they given you dictatorial power. you have every right to not like what's being discussed and to disregard me and anybody else, we all do, but you yourself are being a stereotype american conservative guy asshole in complaining about "whiny candyass limeys". i've found this list to be quite friendly and warm, and if i don't want to read someone's story, i'll skip it. if i just want to know about what B&S are doing, i'll ask jeepster. nothing annoys me more on mailing lists than the guy that only speaks up to bitch and alienate everybody else, maybe it gives you a warm feeling of superiority. oh, i'm sorry, am i making stereotypical assumptions? do you think people are going to agree with you if you insult them? your ranting is just as solipsistic as you accuse others of being, and it's boring and unoriginal. go ahead and voice your opinion, you don't have to be a dick about it. jay +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chrislampinen at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 07:55:59 2000 From: chrislampinen at xxx.com (chris lampinen) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 02:55:59 EDT Subject: Sinister: Oh Rick : ) Message-ID: <20000714065559.56942.qmail@hotmail.com> How can you criticize the 'whiny diary pieces' when they are the very soul of the list? We ARE those stories, and besides, I find some of them rather amusing/touching. There's a mass delete function on most e-mail things for a reason, you know. I know you probably won't apologize. I don't really care. I forgive you, Rick, Regardless. Lots of love for Rick and the rest of you, christiaan (who cried because he misheard something as 'the dog broke his leg) Oh and for a little b&s sidenote: my copy of sinister is scratching! Nooooo! First Yes, now this! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From porterww at xxx.edu Fri Jul 14 08:34:59 2000 From: porterww at xxx.edu (Will Porter) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 02:34:59 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: Careful with that currant bun, Madame Librarian Message-ID: WRITE ME DOWN AN ASS So, I was crying in a supermarket, when all of a sudden, Seymour Stein started playing. Well, that turned out to be a dream. A dirty dream. The second one of the night, at that. I had just begun to wonder, "Why is this happening to me, I'm not a child," when I ran smack into Judy and spilled her pharmaceuticals all over the floor. That was too much for me, so I strapped on my terry underwear and took a bus home. DRAW ME A SHEEP Well, I got hom just in time to wake up, only it turned out I woke up right smack in the middle of a poem. But the weird bit was that it wasn't any particular poem, I was just stuck in the middle, where dogs go on with their doggy life, where one stumbles over the bramble of blackberry--halfway between April (which is the cruellest month) and the mercy of time's means. It seems I had fallen right out of my body and into the pert where the limerick gets funny. Naturally, I opened my mouth to protest, but all that came out was a unique testament to the loveliness of a girl I know. Quite a lovely testament, as testaments go, but that really wasn't my concern at that precise moment. After a time, I decided to move, but that turned out to be too narrative, and left me right in the middle of a forgotten epic. So I turned back toward a pretty how town (where no one loved anyone more by more), but I tripped over a split infinitive and landed face first in a big pile of incomprehensible synecdoche. It became apparent that this was going to be a very strange day, indeed. About the same time that I was picking my way around a patch of flowers that tomorrow would be dying, I heard the unmistakable sound of a crying girl. As luck would have it, I fancy myself something of a storybook hero, so I set about to finding the source of the sobbing. After running a gauntlet of cannon to right of me and cannon to left of me, I found myself quite winded (I'm a bit pudgier than you might expect to find in a poem, especially in the middle). I held my side and walked slowly to a place where water comes together with other water. I glanced about, and who did I see but Porphyria. It seems her lover had ound her hair three times her little throat around and sought to strangle here. I crept up behind the two and, weilding a rather tasty metaphor, I whacked the disturbed lover upside the head. He crumpled to the ground, muttering something about Xanadu and Kubla Hahn, but I couldn't make out the last bit. Her thirst for air beign so urgent, Porphyria gasped, then jumped into my arms and began to count the ways in which she loved me in a manner so metrical and tedious that I rapidly grew quite tired of it. I dumped her off the first chance I got (which just happened to be at midnight) in the company of a middle-aged, middle-class woman. It being so late, and I having been so busy, I was quite tired, and so, using a preposition for a pillow, I closed my eyes and fell fast alseep. When I awakened, it was Sunday morning. It being Sunday morning, I was very cautious of my actions. One never knows what the objective correlative consequences might be for a given action. But by the time I had finished brushing my teeth, it was quite apparent that I had returned to my own dull, none-too-well-articulared existence. I was much sadder about this than I had expected to be, but I knew better than to think I could slip right back into poetry at will, so I packed a lunch and set out to find what would suffice. ummm okay bye will +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mindmonkey1 at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 10:35:10 2000 From: mindmonkey1 at xxx.com (ineffable) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 02:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: le plage de st tropez Message-ID: <27620462.963567310414.JavaMail.imail@almond.excite.com> Dear all, I've been a bit tardy with e-mails this week, but felt obliged firstly to recommend the Army of Lovers song that I've put in the 'subject' and secondly, in my professional opinion Monsignor Bozard's anger tells us more about him than it does us. Chill out babe - its just pop music and knda meant to be fun. 'Monkey _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Jul 14 10:41:41 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 11:41:41 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Jordi is a Dick Slap Message-ID: <001901bfed77$d2ae6980$ba98243e@itjfvkli> Well done to Big Dave for spotting the link between Kate Bush and the Floyd. It's true, Dave Gilmour did indeed "subsidize a demo tape" for fifteen year-old Kate. But that's not the connection I was thinking of. Mine's this: Both Syd Barret and Kate Bush made records based on texts by James Joyce - "Golden Hair" for romantic Syd and "Sensual World" by ever-expanding Kate. I've never heard the former. At the time, Kate's interpretation of the Molly Bloom monologue seemd a bit superfluous because a) it's already full of music, and b) Molly leapt off the page and into "the sensual world" as soon as she was committed to paper. This is why I was so impressed with its use in "Felicia's Journey", it was given a new (terrible) significance, thus rescuing a nice but unnecessary song from oblivion. I also like "The Man with the Child in his Eyes" and "Underneath the Ivy" or whatever it's called. This morning I listened to "Lo Boob Oscillator*" It's over six and a half minutes long! We had a very nice picnic yesterday, thank you. For me personally, the highlight was in the post-picnic record shop, when Jordi came over with a huge grin and an even bigger Pink Floyd limited edition box set. Everyone was very well behaved and we talked about YOU. And Pink Floyd concerts. I'd been up to the Olympic Stadium earlier and commented that it had struck me as a bit small. "That's where Pink Floyd played!" said Jordi. We really kept the Floyd flag flying. Thank you Lucy, I am rather a fox. Sly old stoaty old fox. Grrr! Peter * I said this in my "a Mister Winston Ko-do-go" voice. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From craigrm at xxx.uk Fri Jul 14 10:39:58 2000 From: craigrm at xxx.uk (craigrm) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 10:39:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My name is Helen Stevens & I'm having a party. Message-ID: <39795410@www.twigger.co.uk> Hello Merry Munchkins, This emails content is not 100% B&S, apologies I am weak and un-focused. *Pretty Pretty Please with sugar on top* if anyone feels the need to comment on Rick's post can you mail Rick directly rather than the list. I know it's hard to resist sometimes and you all mean well, but stuff like this tends to get quickly out of control and does no one any favours. Please trust me on this. - Floyd, The Pink - Musical semolina I'm afraid. Best suited for angst-ridden party's when someone's swiped all the Meatloaf/Doors/Cat Stevens CDs. The lyrics give the appearance of being deep & meaningful only when drunk or stoned, scientists have termed this the "Led Zeppelin Syndrome (LZS)" but very little actual research is currently being undertaken on the phenomenon. This is of course just my own poorly considered opinion and I realise that many people like PF immensely, this is fine but I am not one of them. I strongly associate it with a period of my adolesence that I'd much rather forget. - 2001 prt I - Unless we're talking about 8:01pm tonight then no live dates this year is not exactly what we wanted to hear. As someone rightly pointed out this kind of behavior plays straight into the hands of their detractors, I can imagine Swells was rubbing his corpulent scab encrusted hands together with glee when he heard the news. I'm not upset as such as it wasn't totally unexpected but I can feel my faith slipping a bit. In comparison The Stereophonics are touring this year, it is indeed a cruel world we live in. - 2001 prt II - Are we really a mere 5 months away from Intergalactic travel, surreal babies floating in space and lip-reading supercomputers ?, how will B&S survive in such a world ?, will there still be a place for their well crafted pop melodies ?. I certainly hope so. Arthur C. Clarke may well have been responsible for the Communications satellite (though personally I remain unconvinced) and is no longer a suspect kiddie fiddler but I think we've got a good few centuries of normal life left before we have to start dealing with space travel on a semi-regular basis. Despite this I still have a soft spot for Arthur as he was indirectly responsible for providing us with one of televised comedy's shinning moments, I'm of course talking about The Goodies "The Search For Arthur C Clarke" episode. Genius. - London Picnic - Will someone be sending another reminder to the list about this and the planned pre-picnic pub meeting ?. I deleted the emails as initially I was going to be working and unable to attend but that's changed now so can someone refresh my memory regarding times and all that. Cheers. - Will the real Sad Fluffy GHD please stand up - Is he still amongst us ?. Well that's work successfully avoided for a hour. Be good, Craig xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From magdaboom at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 10:44:42 2000 From: magdaboom at xxx.com (Magda Boom) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 02:44:42 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Up town top rankin' Message-ID: Cats, does anyone mind if I Be Mummy for a second, and say weve had the diary-diary-is-shoddy/dear-dear-is-ace argument before, and always said it was best not to talk about the list ON the list? I hope not. Brian: >1. THE Magda Boom commented something to the effect that >skateboarding boys >who listen to Hip Hop and have rice pudding >spilled on their cardigans would be a >funny sight. Oddly, that >combination (sans rice pudding) is pretty common, I >thought. Sounds like a lot of my friends. Yes, sadly after I wrote my last post I was reminded I was actually begging for Graham Coxon clones. I only find Hip Hop amusing, I cant really listen to it. To me, the idea me listening to someone from the Wu-tang clan singing a song about nailing someones nuts to a dresser and then putting tools up his bottom has, dear lord, Ironic value, and I really cant stand people who listen to Pop or Uk Garage for Ironic value, so I should probably be shot. Middle class white girls and boys using Ali G-style puns is as embarassing as the stick-on stereotype for Belle and Sebastian fans. I think Nick said something like that once, only in a much better way. Are we talking about the fieldmice? One of them came on to me once. Thats all I have to say about them, really. >it was just suddenly good. whereas before it was just all, well, icky and laced with >the whole image of perfect 50s living, the image of new and wonderful things >clouding out a harsh reality. I think thats whats lovely about being able to enjoy things from the 50s today, we *dont* have to live there, we dont have to follow the same rules that they did, we dont have to wear uncomfortable corsets which pinch our waists in, we dont have to Go Steady or have 2.4 children, but then we do have to be raving nostalgic, and be called reetro Lots of pop music from the 50s is lovely, Id start name-dropping but I only have a couple of compilations I bought from charity shops, so Id seem quite the amateur. I might be going to a club tonight which plays Diskopop from a Charity shop. Its called Hoxton Teen Rock and Roll Machine. Hoxton darling. Thats *so* 1999. Magda x "snotty bitch" P.S Sarah - your lyrics have been added to my list. Fantastic! *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Fri Jul 14 11:51:26 2000 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 11:51:26 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: NoOnE's LiTtLe GirL... Message-ID: <20000714105126.25714.qmail@web3003.mail.yahoo.com> Hello you lot... First of all I'd like to second my dear Magda and say that no, we shouldn't talk on the list about the list.. so please, if there's something you wanna tell someone, criticise them or whatever, keep it off list... Time's been quite hard for me lately... I had a broken arm and shattered dreams and lots of other not so pleasant stuff... But I won't bug you with all my misfortunes... I can't believe the Pink floyd (ian rolfe) sarah said: Can we have a TV Personalities thread now, please? and i say why not? I know where Kriss Akabusi lives- just down the road in fact. Oh yeah and Lewis from Inspecotor Morse lives a couple of villages away. Next topic, Television Personalities. Whatever happened to Dan Treacy? Last I heard he disappeared off the face of the Earth! Was it just a fitting stunt, or did he really go missing? Did they find him? (Brian P. (aka McMcMc) ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From molotchie at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 12:01:19 2000 From: molotchie at xxx.com (Totchie Molotchie) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 12:01:19 BST Subject: Sinister: Tea and biscuits please Message-ID: <20000714110119.44408.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello people This is another 'i'm just out the nursery' post, so if you are expecting something amazingly witty please delete. Anyhow, i'm having a dilemma as to whether to come to the London Picnic (thanks to Elena for answering Q's though). Prob is i've been really ill this week (meaning this morning has been spent reading 1000's of emails - got eyeache so deleted about 500 sorry!) So i don't know if i have the stamina to do the whole travel to london on my own with no friends to meet people i don't know on my own thing. Yes, i'm emphasising the on my own bit! Just for the record i do have friends but they don't do the B&S thing so much as me. So (assuming i make it) if you see a girl with a little miss naughty bag with black (ish) hair looking scared that will be me. All 'hellos' greatly appreciated. Also Elena (if u have a mo) please email me a description of yourself so i don't go round the pub asking random people if they're sinister and getting kicked out for being strange! Um B&S content .... First fell in love with them when i heard LLPJ and since then it's been a steady warm feeling that makes me smile whatever they do. Not sure of fave song but in the whole Beyond Sunrise/Electric Renaissance debate my vote goes to E R sorry but Beyond S just drags me to the floor and sits on me so i can't breathe. That's a bit dramatic but you get the message. Ok i'm going to get tea and biscuits now love and lemons Totchie xxx ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keleidoscopic at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 12:26:53 2000 From: keleidoscopic at xxx.com (Chris Paluch) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Being not nice Message-ID: <20000714112653.6097.qmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Helle Sinister People and "rick" >From what I remember diary pieces are what the list is all about. You should have read the web page before you signed up for the list. The Sinister list is legendary because it is a list as devoted to Belle and Sebastian as well as each others lives. Yes I to think the Pink floyd thing was silly, but I also believe that this list would honestly be alot less intresting if it where not for those so called whiney diary pieces. You are a disgrace to us American Twee people rick...which probably does not really amount to much. If you do not like the diary pieces quit complaining and just unsubscribe...my freinds who did not like that aspect of the list did so. This is a list on how Belle and sebastian has an impact on our lives...it is a fantics page that focuses not only one the band but the lives fanatics... It is kinda shedding light on how highly personal songs mean to other people....it is not just a music list, sinister is a reflection of the people on the list, as much as the Belle and Sebastian songs are reflections in people in their lives. The list is to discuss B&S, but also to discuss why exactly we relate to B&S, and maybe just show a little bit of our souls. Everybody who has been on the list for more than a few months knows this, even some people in the nursery know this, and maybe that is why they joined the list. Sinister is going against the grain in its own way by being the way it is, it is several great stories with only one thing in common, and that is Belle and Sebastian. The list is Grate the way it is, sorry to respond to this a bit late Sinister people. Chris ===== The sole member of the Lost Letter Society A society dedicated to turtle lovers everywhere. Http://www.mp3.com/LostLetterSociety __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 12:55:43 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 12:55:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 6 minutes actually Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22DB3FA5@SERVER1> Okay, a seven minuter, as lunch and P!U!B! calls. I woke up dead perky today, then got my usual bollocking or seven for being shit at my job. Then I got a two-letter letter from Lucy, sold my shares in lastminute.com (Jesus, what was I thinking?) and drank the cup of coffee which felt rather safe, so I drank it all, and now I'm moving at three times the speed of light cos I can't handle caffeine. I'm dead excited about the picnic tomorrow. I might even wear my orange sweater. It's dead nice. Apparently tangerine is in this season. Though at the moment this season appears to be winter. Hold on, that's not as parochial a comment as it may sound - apparently the eastern seaboard and Western Europe are both suffering from the same stagnant weather system which has twisted itself into a shape that it can't get out of. So while it's shit for all of us, it's bloomin' gorgeous south of Greenland. Boo. As for tomorrow's (London) picnic (weather update: 20 degrees, sun poking from behind cloud) - PLEASE don't let anyone get put off by the weather, or even the fact big gay Martin is going to be there - meeting people is the lifeblood of this list, and if you're lucky you could go for a snog too! Anyway, say hello - I'll be the pasty balding one. I'm a fox too, you know. Tra la la, Mark xxx Props to SGS for being the bomb :-) ******************************************************************* HIT Entertainment PLC 5th Floor, Maple House 141-150 Tottenham Court Road LONDON, W1P 9LL Tel: +44 (20)7 554 2500 Fax: +44 (20)7 388 9321 The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 020 7224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 13:26:17 2000 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (Johan Nilsson) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:26:17 +0200 Subject: Sinister: a whorehouse is any house References: <396b4aed.e2.0@webcentral.com.au> Message-ID: <20000714122420.63232.qmail@hotmail.com> someone said bonnie prince billy (will oldham) and i had to stick my head out of my bedroom. regarding bonnie prince billy and covers i cannot tell you how much i love his versions of "whiskey and women", "in my mind" (both david allan coe), "dream of the sea" (renderers) and "watch with me" (joe wise). so if anyone should cover belle and sebastian and we wouldn't have to be scared for what it would sound like it's bonnie. but i guess still will oldham is quite an aquired taste. but i don't think a lot of belle and sebastian fans could listen to "a whorehouse is any house" and say it's not any good. what does belle and sebastian have against rarities? someone on the list was fuzzin' something about something fuzzy like a greatest hits album (yuck) and i could just say that it probably wouldn't suprise me. okay wait, let me start this over; big'ups for the singles with songs not from the album but what about other things that is dwelling around in the indie scene; such as compilation tracks, tour singles, limited special releases of any kind or what about japanese bonus tracks etc. oh so they did a song for a soundtrack - which it took what, two months before it was out on jeepster? so they did have an sold out record which jeepster didn't hesitate to rerelease. come on, they didn't even care to put all the three eps on one cd and do that slightly rare, no they had to repress them exactly the other versions and just slip them in a extra sleeve (which you buy the way can buy straight from jeepster). ok so compilation tracks and tour singles is bad because everyone cannot get a hold on them (pity you), but that is why people do things like "louder than bombs", "lost blues and other songs" and "aluminum tunes". we all aknow there is plenty songs that are marvelous that they still haven't had the nerve to put out (i don't even have to say runner to make you know what i am talking about). so belle and sebastian might not think they are album material but we would love to have them. it's belle and sebastian for gods sake! rarities keeps us up and about. it sparkles it up and keeps the fans on their toes. makes them more fanatic you know. who doesn't like fanatic fans? but what can you expect from a band that only tours every second year and who takes two years to put out a new album... or one and half to put out even a song. no, i am just writing things on the top of my head, belle and sebastian can do whatever they want to, they still make me happy. but i still which they would put out more music and do less traveling around the world promoting themselves. not that promotion is bad but you know, music is better. record tip of the month: david grubbs 'the spectrum between' is bloody marvelous. it got cowboys on the cover and appearently it sometimes stands under the 'country' section in your local record store but with songs like 'a shiver in the timber', 'show me who to love' and 'whirlweek' we put on our square dance out-fits and get on the floor and dance. if not then it's good record to sit and listen to when you're home and about. pink floyd... eewww... what next? foghat? puzzle on johan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 13:29:34 2000 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 08:29:34 EDT Subject: Sinister: Take my hand and off we stride...la la la la la la la la... Message-ID: <43.77bb9fb.26a061ae@aol.com> Hewwo, Ok, bad subject line I know. Only two days 'till I go on holiday! Yay! My copy of Nalda Said arrived in the town bookshop today, but, through extrordinary willpower, I'm not opening it 'till I get on the plane. Well, maybe just a peek... My ex boyfriend (yes I have one) phoned me up this morning, all angry. Apparently he met some girl over the internet called Jenny, who's 14, and he thinks it's me trying to take the wind up him. Well, I mean, it is me, and it's really funny, because he's a moke, but that didn't stop me being indignant at him. He phoned up yelling "does the name Jenny mean anything to you?" and I said "yes, it sort of does, because it's my name". Then he started doing the whole detective thing at me reeling off all the reasons why it might be me, but most of the reasons were all wrong and flawed, but I couldn't say, because if I did he'd guess it was me. God, I'm evil... Today, I'm going into town, not least because my dad's given me a fiver to get rid of me. He says it's for food, but I always forget to eat, so really it's for books. I'm going to wear my purple hat, and screw the hard kids. Well, not actually, because that would just be yucky, but you know what I mean. It's the one with a bow on it. No B&S 'till 2001. But that's ages away! I'll be 15 by then (ooh, imagine me at 15 - that's ancient!). You know what would be really shady? If they only played over 18's places. They don't gel with me, I'd have to hid under a nice legal sinisterine's cardigan, so the door-people wouldn't see me. And try not to mention my age in front of the staff, like I did at the glasgow pub-nic. All my friends are on holiday, and most of them come back when I go away. How moke-ish is that? That's why I'm now living in the library. Yeah, the books are my friends, they like me... Oh, libraries. I forgot, I haven't been to the sini-ville site for ages, and I'm the librarian there. Noddy juice is grate. Especially orange flavour. Juice tastes much better if there's a picture of Noddy and Big Ears on the carton. Noddy alcohol would be grater than grate. I'm off now, Hugs, Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk Fri Jul 14 13:32:34 2000 From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:32:34 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: NoOnE's LiTtLe GirL...(full version) Message-ID: <20000714123234.17331.qmail@web3004.mail.yahoo.com> Hello again... I'm so so sorry about that post!! even though it must have seemed a bit surealistic... grrrr... I clicked on *send* by accident... what can I say? I made a total fool out of myself once more...anyway... there we go again... First of all I'd like to second my dear Magda and say that no, we shouldn't talk on the list about the list.. so please, if there's something you wanna tell someone, criticise them or whatever, keep it off list... Time's been quite hard for me lately... I had a broken arm and shattered dreams and lots of other not so pleasant stuff... But I won't bug you with all my misfortunes... I can't believe the Pink floyd thread... I remember when I was little my unkle had this record with a photo of a burning man shaking hands with another burning man... that was a PF record - I cannot remember the title - which'd caused me horrible nightmares for a while... I have nothing else to say about PF... I've always thought Syd barrett was a genious, but I could never listened to his music... sorry fellow TVPs fans! stars (starry sarah) said: > Can we have a TV Personalities thread now, please? < and then Ian Rolfe: > and i say why not? > I know where Kriss Akabusi lives- just down the road > in fact. > Oh yeah and Lewis from Inspecotor Morse lives a > > couple of villages away. which made me laugh as I thought Dan Treacy would really appreciate this... Brian P. (AKA McMcMc) said: > Next topic, Television Personalities. Whatever > > happened to Dan Treacy? Last I heard he disappeared > > off the face of the Earth! > Was it just a fitting stunt, or did he really go > > missing? Did they > find him? Brian, that wasn't a fitting stunt...he dissapeared last summer forgetting his suitcase in the cherry red offices... and he was found some months after that somewhere in London... I think in a second hand record shop or something... Stephen Carsmile - bless him - have us all trying to find these unbelievable lyrics from 90s pop songs... I found an Aqua one and a Fugees one... and some others... incredible... Please, kick his sorry b**, tomorrow at the picnic... I miss honeyboobles so much... honeyinnids, I'm trying to write a nice fairytale for you... you'll get to wear all beautiful dresses and pretty little hats, with veils for your night outfits etc... and you can have Spooka-Dee-Loops too to escort you at your dances... Don't give her more haggis than she can handle tho' please... I'm so dissapointed as I will miss all my friends at the Magnetic Fields' gig on the 25th July in London... Furthermore, I've already had tickets for the gig for a while now (thanks Paul!), which makes my missing it even worse.. well, it's OK as my darling Elena can have them... she's making "tiny cucumber sandwiches" right now whilst singing Jeff Buckley tunes at the same time... How cute can that be? I want to send a huge hug to my friend Jules Markham and promise her I'm going to email soon... Once upon a time, there was a little girl... and then the story ends...... take care hugs Vel ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.cullen at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 13:19:35 2000 From: p.cullen at xxx.com (Paula Cullen) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:19:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Return of the Sack... Message-ID: <01BFED96.28F0A4C0.p.cullen@music-control.com> hola, i've been unsubbed for a while now as my email in work was down (a small matter of there being a large amount of porn clogging up my server) but *this* really made me want to chew the fat with you kids again. Rickbozard said: "I encourage a ban on non b+s material (and no, slipping b+s into your pathetic storys about crying at the supermarket doesn't count)." i LOVE this guy!!!!!!! somebody give him a medal. really. the funniest thing i've read since "pink floyd are good". and while i'm down there, whats the story with *that*, lads? the words : Jesus. H. and Christ spring to mind..... Pawla Cullen Booze Explosion. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Fri Jul 14 13:46:51 2000 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:46:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: No time, just a quickie Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69014A3D8A@park_ex> OK, another quick one to follow Markc's (oh, the mental pictures). I am also looking much forward to tomorrow, and all of you frightened bunnies don't worry, we are, in fact, lovely. And if you don't come you'll have to spend all of next week reading about what a super time we had anyhoo, and then you''ll be sad you didn't. In other news, I am now officially OX bound, as i am to be a TUTORIAL SECRETARY at ruskin college in Oxford, which is nice. Now all i need is somewhere to live... I'm actually dead dead excited about it and everything, although i may produce a small fact sheet to distribute tomorrow to avoid having to tell the same tale 50 times. Humourous Oxford moments from the other day: 1. In Waterstones (big book shop), somewhat confused american to shop assistant: Do you have a book with a recipe for shepherd's pie? 2. Walking down the street, see sportsgothic/nu-metal/muppet girl, with prim proper middle class mother (always somewhat humourous). Mother then stops and heads into rather ornate looking church, goth gurl in (possibly) marilyn manson t-shirt trailing behind, head bowed. Made me laugh anyway sorry, i really can't hang around, i've got to go and sort my kid sister out. Anyway, I'VE GOT A NEW JOB AND IT'S GRATE see you, you and you (but not you, unfortunately) tomorrow xoxo CarsmileSteve Thanks for all the mails, mentions etc in the past few days, if I may mis-quote Wilde "the only thing worse than being talked about, is talking about prog rock" innit :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Fri Jul 14 13:42:17 2000 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:42:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: On the turning Message-ID: <8025691C.00471E6B.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> It's a pisser that the band aren't doing grooop things for a while, but I'm reminded that they once said something along the lines of "playing in the band isn't a job that seven people's lives have to revolve around". If they're not enjoying it or they've got other things to do then let them. Sorry, I seem to have turned into a hippy nomark. Must go back to Chapel. Hey - guess what! I decided to swallow my pride and investigate post-Syd FLOYD. And it's really good! 'The Delicate Sound of Thunder' is my favourite, I think. As a document of their triumphant '88 world tour, it faces the seemingly impossible task of capturing the spectacle of flying pigs and crashing beds, yet succeeds with aplomb. An object lesson in the art of compiling live albums. Shamefully, I've yet to hear 'A Dark Side of the Moon', which is all about mental illness apparently, so that sounds really good. I like concept albums about insanity. I wonder if it's better than Madness's 'The Rise & Fall' and Brian Wilson's 'I Used to Be A Werewolf But I'm All Right N-owowoww? Bit behind the times, but I was listening to 'Up a Tree' last night and I really enjoyed it! As concept albums about being a slack-arsed piss artist who loves his wife dearly go, it's pretty good. And the studio version of 'Winter Wooskie' has really grown on me too. To be dewy-eyed and daft about it for a moment, when it gets to the end of the single and those reedy nostalgic strains quickly float by in their unassuming way, it feels like the closing of a wonderful chapter. Goodbye Stuart D, I'll miss you after all. N. xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cbrown2 at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 14:17:48 2000 From: cbrown2 at xxx.com (cbrown2 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:17:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: boybandbaiting Message-ID: <8625691C.0049486F.00@em-stpmta-01.mmm.com> Afternoon chaps and chapesses. Has someone from here been having a go at lovely young Ronan as I've just seen this on the nme site: Action is taken after the Boyzone singer is sent a reportedly "sinister" e-mail... Whoever it is be careful, he's got armed rozzers looking after him, but good luck anyhow. Hmmm picnic, I am still in two minds as I'm not feeling particularly sociable at present and would hate to be talked about as the bloke who turned up and just grouched at people. Last night I was in a pub on the Thames and loads of war plane type things were flying over, I thought they might be going to finish off the Queen's mum before she did the Ton, no such luck I'm afraid so it looks like Englands going to be full of jingoistic types saying things like "gawd bless 'er she stayed in London during the blitz you know??" I may as well put in my tuppence worth on Pink floyd while I'm here, in days past I must admit I listened to them and didn't find it altogether unpleasant but that seems to have worn off a little as I found an old tape a while ago tried to listen and found it very tricky indeed. Mind you it's like Markc said the other day, all us old types have probably got a few musical skeletons in their closet (scritti politti anyone??? ohh I did have a liking for them when I was much thinner than I am now) Anyhoo I'm going for now as I've actually got to do some work for a change as I'm leaving early today just because I can. Ta ta my lovelies Chris PS haikus are the new rock and roll PPS I managed to get through a whole mail without a rant at that frightfully aggressive American chappie.....DOH! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sophiesea at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 14:23:11 2000 From: sophiesea at xxx.com (sophie harris) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:23:11 GMT Subject: Sinister: songs for children Message-ID: <20000714132311.67080.qmail@hotmail.com> heya chickabees justa little hallo to say a coupla things - probably v. unsurprisingly, but - mister wotsit, re your little outburst... firstly, call me a bit naive and stuff, but i don't understand why youwant to be on the list if you dont want to be part of it? i really dont'. i mean, of *course* i want to know newsy b&s stuff, but like jay said earlier, you can go to jeepy for that... for me, i love sinister precisely *because* it touches my heart to hear about other peoples' days / trials and tribs and all that - i *love* we can all talk about little thought clouds, or that i now know what apple butter is, or crayzee little things like when people say 'oh i was walking through soho' or suchlike, and i think, but *i* was walking through soho today... etc. that kind of thing. and then pixiedusstyladykaren's hello, and dreams and malrky of all sorts.... i may be soppy but i'm not daft.... uummmmmm.... t'ra for now then love and lemoncurd xs 'there'll be icicles and birthday cakes and sometimes there'll be sorrow...' **** ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Fri Jul 14 14:38:03 2000 From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (Linda Kerr) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:38:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: MESSAGE FROM LIST OWNER - PLEASE READ Message-ID: <200007141338.OAA08045@punt1.hw.ac.uk> Dear sinisterines POSTED WITH AUTHORITY OF LIST-OWNER WHO IS BUSY (Stern face) Indeed, everyone, there have been many conversations in the past about list content, and you can search the archive to see just how futile they are, generally. One of the rules of this list is that there is no discussion of content on the list. People can mail the list owner, or (politely/humerously) the person whose posts they disagree with, to voice objections to particular threads. If things get out of hand. Honey will step in to try to stop some threads, if enough people are righteously annoyed... Oh and it goes without saying that list rules extend to talking *about* talking about list content. Honey always ends by saying: therefore this mail should be the last on this subject and no offence meant to any individual in particular The list is a friendly place, long may it sing in sweet har-mon-eee. Linda x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From declan63 at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 14:36:44 2000 From: declan63 at xxx.com (Jay Nagy) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 09:36:44 -0400 Subject: Sinister: a whorehouse is any house In-Reply-To: <20000714122420.63232.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: pink floyd... eewww... what next? foghat? nawwwww, man....SKYNYRD!! wooooooooohhhh!!! i've thought it was odd myself just how little is available so far from B&S, unlike many other indies. on the other hand, i can easily own every single thing released...for once! :) the only problem is i currently only have "3...6...9" out of the 3 ep's and am tempted to buy the little LLPJ box, which is pleasantly only the cost that the three would be separately. they were only imports here before and hard to find, so i may just have to double up. oh poor me. re: the fuzzy origins of "judy is a dick slap", i think it's a bit stereolabby also, but in the second part, does anyone else hear "don't leave the light on baby" going into "walk on by" by bacharach and david in chris's playing? i think that would be a fine cover, following the suggested "suspicious minds", though i now have the perverse desire to hear stuart sing "do you know the way to san jose?" oh come on, how cute would *that* be??? orrrrrr maybe that's just me. well, back to work and all that rot. jay "you may laugh, but pretty girls look right through me" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keshi at xxx.it Fri Jul 14 15:02:51 2000 From: keshi at xxx.it (francesca) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:02:51 +0200 Subject: Sinister: can you see in the dark like i can.... Message-ID: <001f01bfed9c$5c3ac620$95091997@a07195> hi!!!! well I'm going to see Salako tonight...... ohohoh!!! I'm really happy... I'm writing to you mostly because all the people here are scared by me jumping here and there saying 'oooh Salako!!!' and things like that... there's also a meet up for Italian fans... but I don't think I'll see anyone because the others said 'oh see you under the stage' (if we're in two or three people I can recognise them... maybe) ah and looper was expected to play there.... but, sigh, they won't play.... there will be coldplay instead.... the friends with me come only to see an Italian group (that I personally hate) and will go on all the time saying 'hm... this music is boring... go away from there (=>under the stage)' and will be nasty.... but I don't mind. ok I'll go (so I can continue to jump here and there)... but don't be sad there will be a postfestival post bye francesca ICQ: 77696062 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Fri Jul 14 15:41:12 2000 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 10:41:12 -0400 Subject: Sinister: now my plane's flying out of control, with a brand new cargo full of brand new soul. References: <43.77bb9fb.26a061ae@aol.com> Message-ID: <006901bfeda1$9a977d00$8602a7d1@yesic.com> hello, when did you start doing _that_ to your hair? so i will hopefully only talk about 3 things now. ok. but none of them are belle and sebastian. so 'watch "the fuck" out' ok? Magda mentioned getting hit on by one of the fieldmice. i have some questions: how did this fieldmouse go about hitting on you. were you in a bar and did he sidle up and buy you a drink and casually let slip with 'i was in a band once, the fieldmice, yeah...' or was it more 'hey you! why won't you sleep with me? is because i was in the fieldmice?'. i only get hit on by these old men. something about me doesn't even seem to turn on younger men, let alone girls, just old guys. i guess they figure i'm lonely. bastards. but my friends get hit on all the time. my friend amy got hit on by steve leckie, who was in arguably the first canadian band to pick up on punk rock back in the day. they were called the viletones and that they were into punk very early on (but not at all innovative or good or anything) is their claim to fame. so he started coming on to amy by saying 'i'm steve leckie from the viletones' which, when combined with his nearly 50 year old heroin addict appearance was already completely repulsive to her. so when he could see that he was already on the losing side he desperately began naming the people he 'knew'. things like 'no wait, i know vivian westwood...' sure mac. my friend joanie did way better. she got hit on by noted designer karim rashid. they started chatting at the restaurant that she worked at and then he walked her home, and then he invited himself in, then he snorted coke in her washroom and then he kept breathing down her neck and being creepy so she shoved him out the door. i mean, at least karim rashid is pretty cool. Flin Flon was mentioned. hurrah. robyn fadden mentioned the 50's. wich is stupendous. because not only is robyn 'the bomb shit' but is also 'dope' and 'hardcore' like le tigre only not lesbians. so yeah. the 50's were the REAL best pop music before the 80's when fine young cannibals and martha and the muffins appeared. i include anything before the beatles broke in the states as being essentially 50's. and yeah, gene vincent, carl perkins, etc. the innocence, the simplicity, the tight harmony, the repressd dry humpy hornyness of it all, the 3 minute time limit. the 50's is what i love so much about jonathan richman. i love jonathan richman and wish he was my dad. my dad is distant and i don't know what he does for a living at all. even though i lived with him for 18 years. also, yes, le tigre rock. they make me feel very new york. which is really what living in toronto is all about isn't it. s t e v e n ! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lixibell at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 18:25:23 2000 From: lixibell at xxx.com (alix campbell) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 17:25:23 GMT Subject: Sinister: never once made you explain or talk about all of the little details Message-ID: <20000714172523.45058.qmail@hotmail.com> Hallo Here's the contribution for the month. Maybe it will make up for last months getting lost in the post. Can one day we have a picnic that isn�t on top of a big hill? If we took a trip to the Norfolk broads, it would be flat. And full of boats and dykes. That would cater to everyone�s tastes, no? I shall still go to the picnic. I can't help it. I won't remember any of your names though. Unless you're pretty. I�ll be the one looking tired. And possibly the one rolling down the hill with Ms MacArthur. I have to go to work in 10 minutes. I�m increasingly sick of it. The outgoings are not worth the rewards. I�m sick of people wanting my time. Specifically, I�m sick of men who reply 'Your phone number' when asked 'Would you like anything else?' Just give me the money and fuck off, as my friend Tom says. Only, there's no money involved on the deli. �Just tell me how many slices of Sopocka you�d like and fuck off� doesn�t sound the same. I went back to Oxford on Sunday. It was quiet and pretty. I could have stayed. I was in the loft when I heard movement downstairs. It was my marvellous brother wandering around looking for me, a miniature cockerel in his hand. 'What are you doing with that bird?' I enquired. He climbed the ladder into the loft, and said 'Meet Jontyclew'. At least, that�s what it sounded like. He put the tiny thing on the floor, and it made straight for the section where my father grows interesting plants. I spent the next 10 minutes in loft space, which for the entire world could have been a replica of Warhol's factory, chasing an undersize rooster. We didn�t tell my dad, but he'll wonder why there's hen poo in the loft, I guess. All the post boxes round here have notices across the slot saying �Royal Mail Closed�. How can a post box be closed? I suspect it may be something to do with that strike in support of football hooliganism. I object to being affected by news stories. I could get stopped in the street and asked my opinion. I don�t like this one bit. Hot damn! Anne Robinson and her minions could be quizzing me at the drop of a hat. Better watch my back, hadn�t I? Alice Beer could be lurking. Sarah Clarke, this is another reason why you haven�t received your birthday present yet. At The Drop of A Hat was the title of a Flanders and Swann tape I had when I was younger. I loved it to bits. Our family weren�t big on buying tapes. I remember my brother once got a �learning to tell the time� cassette. It was intensely irritating. All I recall is a song on it with these lyrics �You can chuck it in a bucket, you can throw it at the wall�. I still don�t know what that has to do with time, but I do recall secretly destroying the tape and then blaming a poltergeist. alix ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk Fri Jul 14 18:32:20 2000 From: amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk (amy_jackson0) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 18:32:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hey you what's that sound? Message-ID: <001a01bfedb9$78e269a0$7f043c3e@tinypc> morning chaps okay, so it's actually the afternoon/early evening, but i remember mark and lard saying it in the mornings on the radios before i went to school, it's stuck in my head and i just like it, okay??? good, glad that's sorted. i've never heard of apple butter. is it just apple flavoured butter? okay, that's probably a daft question, but you get stuff like.....~thinks~......lemon curd which is the most disgusting stuff on earth, and i was thinking it's maybe like that...... glad to hear jenowl is going to be the fairy godmother in her school play. all sinisterines should be someone's fairy godmother (or fairy godfather). in my school plays, i was a sheep, a french hen (as in the 3 French hens from that godawful song), a lady called babushka who i think is like a female santa or something and i was Macduff in Macbeth. at my school, it was always the popular, pretty girls that got the starring roles, i was always pushed to the side of the stage or at the back, the excuse was "oh amy, you're tall, everyone will see you". yeah, right.... hte pretty girls could never act anyway, they just wandered on and fluffed their lines, then smiled meekly at a passing camcorder and the audience would go "aaw, isn't she lovely!" and no one would laugh or anything. grr. i went to t in the park avec Monsieur Jason Andreas and Fuzzylugs *giggle*...(he's gonna hate me for saying that, heh heh heh).....there was a big gang of our non-sinister friends there too, and a good time was had by all. Hellos to Jarvis, who got a free Matrix-style mobile phone (for the day) and a hospitality pass, simply for being a junior-journo (some guys have all the luck...) and hi to sweetie, cheers for the love hearts, i'm so glad i saw muse!!! was grate/great, 'cept that i didn't see looper cos i couldn't get a weekend pass, only a sunday one, grrr.... tho nothing on earth could beat the time myself and jason met chris geddes after the looper gig at king tuts, such a softly spoken young man, he looked quite daunted by his legions of fans...*smile* and i'm losing my voice, which isn't so great, but it makes me sound kinda husky, and i've heard that boys find that a Good Thing. will phone jason and find out. ho hum am feeling very happy at the moment, a lot happier than i've been in a long time, and y'know what? it's great! i want a glasgow picnic too, maybe in september/october? or maybe a winter picnic, when it's all snowy and icy and sparkly and we can wander through kelvingrove park in the glittery snow talking about intelligent stuff, eating jam and scones and drinking cream teas. or we could do the whole Christmas thing, where we annoy the Santa's in the shops and sit on his knee and tell him we want an arab strap for Xmas. "Hello little girl, have you been good this year?" "Nope. But that won't matter cos guess what I want for a present..." Oh dear. what is the fuss with harry potter? my brother is obsessed with the books,but i tried to read one of them and i just could not get into it, i thought it was bobbins. oh well, they are written for kids after all..... i'm off, amy xxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From FakingUpARampage at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 19:21:48 2000 From: FakingUpARampage at xxx.com (FakingUpARampage at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:21:48 EDT Subject: Sinister: inbetween the moments Message-ID: dear Diary.... ack!! i just stepped on my dog!! literally as i was writing the y in diary... shes under my desk.. but it wasnt very hard, it was more of a tap.. and she didnt cry or anything, so i think things are ok. phew. amy said: > i've never heard of apple butter. is it just apple flavoured butter? okay, > that's probably a daft question, but you get stuff > like.....~thinks~......lemon curd which is the most disgusting stuff on > earth, and i was thinking it's maybe like that...... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! wait, i'll get a jar and write out the ingrediants. on the front of the jar it says 'made from fresh apples, apple cider and honey'... and ya know what? thats all the ingrediants. i'm spelling ingrediants wrong arent i? oh well. and its not disgusting. its yummy. i think i've talked about apple butter too much over the past week. but i dont tend to let things go. sorry bout that. have you ever noticed how when you make pizza, or even better - pizza bagels, the bestest part is the part that gets stuck to the pan, and you sit there with a fork trying to get it off cos its oh so yummy? its pouring out today, and i'm sad... because it means that i cant go to my horse show tomorrow... as i was supposed to, after my whole little problem with the horse getting sick.. amy also said : "glad to hear jenowl is going to be the fairy godmother in her school play. all sinisterines should be someone's fairy godmother (or fairy godfather)." in kindergarden... i was the fairy godmother from cinderella.. but i got in trouble for hitting the mice too hard with my magic wand. it wasnt my fault tho, really.. they were more like rats then mice. and now i'm sad again, because i missed jen's post where she talked about being the fairy godmother, and i would have liked to read that. hmmmm... will have to look for it. i think linda did very well as list mum, dont you? oh!! i just found jen's email.. i had accidently never clicked on it in the first place.. its at the begining of stuff to read today jen said that it would be sad if b&s played and the club were 18 and over... but if you call the place, and ask very sweetly.. they usually.. or at least in jersey they usually say that if you go with a parent that'll keep an eye on you, you can go anyway. i'm kinda planning on using that card in 2001... tho, in 2001, i might be 18!!! wow... thats a scary thought. but i'm not on the post that talks about being the fairy godmother. damnit. underwire bras -- am i the only person who can never get the wire to stay where its supposed to, on the upper inner side of the cup? i always feel like i'm going to fall apart. argh. i should just stick to soft cups. hey.. speaking of butters and canadians.. teehee... what about maple butter? i loved that the first time i had it too.. however, the first time was also the last time cos you cant find anything good in the states... tho everytime i say that someone emails me saying where i can find stuff.... thankyou to everyone for being so nice... chris was sad that his copy of sinister is scratching... toothpast fixes minor scratches. sadly, i cant salvage my copy of twattybus... i must get another.. as i cant listen to half of it, and playing it to sleep to doesnt work anymore either, as it wakes me up skipping... i have to get a job. i cant keep my summer wasting anymore. i got an application for barnes and nobles, as its the closest place where i could fathom working that isnt in the mall... since i cant drive, the closeness factor is a good thing. they got me my copy of nalda, so i like them. but i have to admit, i'm afraid. this will be my first job, and i wonder if i'm going to end up killing the customers. i get frantic rather easily. but, if i get money then i can go galavanting and go to all the places that people have told me have legal man, and i can get another copy of TBWTAS, and things will be nice. YAY!! i think i'll send this now. its been at least 15 minutes. xoxxo Jes +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kpc98c at xxx.UK Fri Jul 14 20:08:52 2000 From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 20:08:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Loneliness of the Middle London Liver Message-ID: <200007141906.UAA07458@missprint.org> Hi all, I've found an Internet Cafe in London so I thought I'll drop by to say hi, cos that's what I really really want. I haven't been reading all of the posts, sorry :-) but I have got them all saved on a computer disk, even tho I'm not a marketing analyst, but I *am* an angel :-) I will now tell you about my exciting adventures in London.. WORKING Working in a rather big investment bank in Liverpool Street, which is all big and cool and stuff, and gets paid quite a bit, and they hosted a party for us and gave us loads of beer for free! Which is good. LONDON UNDERGROUND is the biggest mile of moo ever! It's horrid and keeps stoping and has no seat for sitting and makes me fall over when I'm standing AND it smells of wee all the time! Also, I remember reading someone's post (sorry I can't remember who you are..) about this thing in France where beggars go on trains to give a speech in return for cash. It looks like the London division of beg.com have now adopted the strategy too! It never seemed to work tho.. I planned loads of excuses the best one being "Sorry but I'm poorer than you - I'm a student" (which actually would have been a lie cos I was getting paid loads) but the guys normally just walk right past me! PICNIC Picnic is tomorrow and I CAN'T WAIT, the sinister world can now see the sublime skills of Ken "Kenedine Kedane" Chu in his full football glory. It best not rain tomorrow cos I never lied when I was 17. (Honest!) I have to go now, see you all sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon.... Postcards and Redbulls!!! Ken P.S. : I am not really sure if a person who lives is a "Liver" either! ====================================================================== I spent the summer wasting, the time has past so pleasantly..... - Belle and Sebastian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cjromeu at xxx.pt Fri Jul 14 19:37:22 2000 From: cjromeu at xxx.pt (Tiago Romeu) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 20:37:22 +0200 Subject: Sinister: dark side of the moon In-Reply-To: <200007141246.NAA24074@missprint.org> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000714203722.008978e0@mail.eunet.pt> nick dastoor: >Shamefully, I've yet to hear 'A Dark Side of the Moon', which is all about >mental illness apparently, so that sounds really good. I like concept albums >about insanity. I wonder if it's better than Madness's 'The Rise & Fall' and >Brian Wilson's 'I Used to Be A Werewolf But I'm All Right N-owowoww? It's curious reading you on that subject because me and a friend we spent several hours of one night, a few months ago, just analyzing the concept of that album. In the end we concluded it was about the course of one during his life in modern society, and on what that society leads him to do. oh...I mean in modern "money-ruling-humanless" society and how much damaged that society causes in one's mental sanity. If you notice, it's starts with an heart beat, and the first music is precisely "Breathe", like one's just born. Even so, yes, its mainly about brain damage, but isn't it all about it ? If you follow the Born-Study-WorkworkworkHardToGetAReallyNiceJobWhereYouGetWellPaid-AllmoneyNo Love/Wisdom-Die you will do get insane. Or end up being an automatic robot. And the album is brilliant in exposing it. If you also notice, "Brain Damage" comes right after "Money" and "Us and Them", or, if you prefer, first "Get a good job with more pay and your ok" («Money») and then "And in the end is onky round and round and round" («Us and Them»). In the end, after "Brain Damage", the "Eclipse", simbolizing death. Or the end of a cicle, as it also ends with an heart beat. I don't know much of Pink Floyd besides this but the concept of this album and the way it is done is absolutely fabulous. It sure diserves a bigger and more important post than this one. I hope someone's there to discuss it. greets tiago ps : and after reading some posts about pink floyd (I repeat : without knowing it to well) I got the sense that most of people who doesn't like it, didn't explain it on a way that the others could understand why they thought like that. which leads me to conclude that most of anti-Floyd people is conduced by social prejudice. Progressive-Rocks-not-twee. even though, I really don't want to get envolved in such discussion. as I said, I don't know them that well. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From teurling at xxx.de Sat Jul 15 02:39:57 2000 From: teurling at xxx.de (Horszowski) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 03:39:57 +0200 Subject: Sinister: High Fidelity, german version Message-ID: <396FC0ED.422521B7@kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> Hi high folks, just saw the High Fidelity film (finally released here in Germany), did an archives research, and wondering, why noone mentioned this in the 50 files being offered, here I go... So pleased to see that B&S song featured at the beginning of the film, but what a pity to hear Rob "defending" this song (being slaggged off by Barry) by comfirming that he didn't like it either but he wants it to be played because HE CAN IGNORE IT SO EASY AT WORK! What a fine promotion for B&S... Arrrgh! brilliant anyway. My friend (who also went with me to their live gig at the Paradiso in Amsterdam) and I had a good laugh. May be that's why they didn't choose a Stuart M song for the soundtrack, hehehe. Or does that gag figure only in the german synchronized version? Cheerio, Ralf +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david at xxx.uk Fri Jul 14 18:03:55 2000 From: david at xxx.uk (David White) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 18:03:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Know Your NMEs... Message-ID: >>>NME<<< Just got a post from NME.com which reads: >Calling all Belle & Sebastian fans! >What do you think of the group's shock decision NOT to play live in support of their top ten album 'Fold >Your Hands Child, You Walk Like A Peasant'?... >http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/20000712165437.html Is it just me being cynical or is this just going to be another excuse for Swells etc to have a go at us again? >>>Job<<< Can anybody tell me where I can find a newspaper or magazine that lists loads of IT jobs and jobs for graduates for the whole of Britain? Or even a decent website for jobs apart from the usual ones (Monster, Stepstone)? I really need to get myself a job but all the newspapers in the west of Scotland are f*cking useless unless you want to work in a call centre or something. Please e-mail me off the list if you can help. That's all folks... Dave david at djwhite47.freeserve.co.uk Visit www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk ... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sophiesea at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 18:28:39 2000 From: sophiesea at xxx.com (sophie harris) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 17:28:39 GMT Subject: Sinister: no pop no style Message-ID: <20000714172839.35034.qmail@hotmail.com> okaay s'me again - but i shant bang on about nonsense again (hmm), merely say raaaah! am at work and we just found the big box of archive nme's - we're looking through one from 1969 for fricks sake! currently riding high (so to speak) in the charts is: mama cass 'it's getting better' ('beautiful thing' - aww...) je taime moi non plus!!! jane b. and lovely lovely serge, ummm ooh number 1 is 'in the year 22525 - bloody hell, it's like being in back to the future or something... i should be careful, it's nestled between my reeces pieces and cup of tea... 'tom cool about elvis' says article with pic of preburger elvis looking remarkably pie, and tom jones looking tanned and admittedly undisgusting... aaanyways, can i put in a wee request for miss elenita to maybe post again with camdeny details? totchie with the little balck bag, i knows what you mean, my boys and girls wont' really do the b&s thing, and i've slightly had it with smirky 'bellend sebastien' 'belle and sespastican' comments.... so i shant be towing them along, altho nadja is helping me make jam tarts tonite (the pastry will be rubbish i am quite sure)... oh dear, that's not very contenty is it? hmm.. ooh brendon has got mp3 new b&s stuff i believe, and tells me there's a song called 'paperboat' which is v. wooskie-like, which is a blessed relief as i have truly caned wooskie (if this is possible) on too many tapes... content, content... in a more recent nme, i stumbled accross this little gem from Chris "The songs are all just about buses and schoolgirls as far as i can make out...What else do you need to know?' and on that note, i'm off home for some tart action xs ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 21:48:38 2000 From: Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com (Paul Rudolph) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:48:38 -0400 Subject: Sinister: selfish me Message-ID: <0056750021015541000002L512*@MHS> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From Rickbozard at xxx.com Fri Jul 14 18:38:53 2000 From: Rickbozard at xxx.com (Rickbozard at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:38:53 EDT Subject: Sinister: monochrome in the 1990's Message-ID: <62.54cc768.26a0aa2d@aol.com> this morning I awoke rather late and was forced to make haste in order to catch the bus. I'd overslept by an hour or so, I blame it on fatuige from the night before when I stayed up untill all hours playing solitaire while listening to my first-edition vinyl copy of tigermilk as well as bits from piper at the gates of dawn. I thought that this was very twee and was delighted to have some material to send to the sinister list. It's quite rare for me to write, I'm the victim of a shyness that is criminally vulgar and it's a great accomplishment for me to venture out into the world, even if that world is a belle and sebastian list on the internet. Well, back to my story. I was distraught at the thought of being late for my job at the cardigan shop. I was afraid that my tardiness might cause my coworkers to speak to me, or prehaps question me, which is somenthing I mortally fear. As I rode on the bus I saw a beautiful girl in the next isle. She looked like Isobel and she might have been though i'll never know, for a sickening fear came over me and drove me to hide in the back of the bus. She was still there when it was my time to get off, so I ran past her seat looking straight ahead to avoid her gaze. A dreadful thing happened as I departed the bus. My sweater caught in the door. I was panic striken as the bus began to drive off, ripping my sweater to shreads and knocking me flat onto the ground. I was a bit flustered and was falling into a daze. The only thing that kept me awake for those first five minutes was the sense of loss I felt for my sweater. I know it's summertime and a sweater can get rather hot, but I am more than happy to take on the hardship associated with my twee uniform. I couldn't fight off unconciousness for long though, and soon I was passed out on the street in a well of my own tears. I dreamt of stuart m and isobel hovering over me like angels as a delightful b+s cover of "another brick in the wall" played in the background. It was a beautiful dream and almost made the unconciousness worthwhile. I began to come to but was still dazed and dissoriented. But then, like an angel out of the heavens a man picked me up and helped me to a taxi cab. It was morrisey. I was overcome with joy and very much wanted to thank him, but my fear of speaking to strangers kept me mute. Morrisey walked off as I quiveringly gave my address to the driver. I'd given up the idea of working that day. I really should have called the cardigan shop to tell them what had occoured but was, yet again, stifled by fear. I contented myself to spend the say at home eating popsickles, listening to tigermilk (which is my favorite b+s album though i don't like that electronic renaissance track, it reeks of an attempt at innovation). If I can muster up the courage I may go down to the park to look for sid barrett. Goodbye all, have a wonderfully twee day +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From knightowl at xxx.net Sat Jul 15 03:23:48 2000 From: knightowl at xxx.net (Knightowl) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 22:23:48 -0400 Subject: Sinister: dark side of the wooksie References: <3.0.6.32.20000714203722.008978e0@mail.eunet.pt> Message-ID: <002b01bfee03$bb0f06e0$d81fd718@mountaincable.net> > In the end we concluded it was about the course of one during > his life in modern society, and on what that society leads him to do. > oh...I mean in modern "money-ruling-humanless" society and how much damaged > that society causes in one's mental sanity. If you notice, it's starts with > an heart beat, and the first music is precisely "Breathe", like one's just > born. Even so, yes, its mainly about brain damage, but isn't it all about > it In the greater sense your analysis was pretty much what it is/was about. BUT, it is also simply about - like every single Pink Floyd album after it too - the story of Syd Barrett. But thats all ancient history. What I want to know is who the heck is Judy anyway? And how did she go from dreaming about horses to being a dick slap? And just what the heck is a wooksie anyway? I presume its not a mutant Star Wars character. "Please don't let them make me be a monkey butler", Ed +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walrus1972 at xxx.com Sat Jul 15 03:16:33 2000 From: Walrus1972 at xxx.com (Walrus1972 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 22:16:33 EDT Subject: Sinister: monochrome in the 1990's Message-ID: <7c.83443f0.26a12381@aol.com> shove off bozard +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vrider at xxx.net Sat Jul 15 05:18:28 2000 From: vrider at xxx.net (Vicki Rider) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 21:18:28 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Spumco: The Danes Call It Quality! Message-ID: <008b01bfee14$51651980$0100007f@compaq> Hello :-) I believe I'm on the verge of two B+S coversions: 1) My dad, who I respect most of anybody in the ways of music (he's the first one that played me The Beatles and The Smiths 'lo those many years ago). He's always listened to my Belle and Sebastian tapes with a reserved look on his face, finally remarking at the end of the song, "They're a bit fey, aren't they?" in a crushing tone. However, a couple of days ago we were on the last leg of a roadtrip back to Phoenix from Tuscon, listening to a mix tape I had made (does anyone hate the phrase "mix tape" to describe the precious gems we send to friends and loved ones? I can't stand it). The last song on the tape was "Don't Leave The Light On Baby". I curled up very quietly on the passenger side of the car and waited. Halfway through, at the solo where the strings come in, my dad says "I LOVE this song! It's my kind of music!", and after it's all over, "Wow! That was really good." Rah Rah Rah!! 2) My aunt, who's actually around 24, younger than my sister even. I sent her a tape I made for her as a graduation present. I hadn't heard anything from her for about 2 months and forgot about it. The other day I get a message from her--"I absolutely love the tape; I play it at work all the time!!" On there I had about 3 strategically-placed B+S songs, so that means she liked them too, right?? heehee "Burroughs is in Tangiers I don't think he'll be coming back it's Sinister"-Allen Ginsberg Brian mentioned: >and a lot of people I know have seen Katie Holmes here and there Has anyone gone onto the Tangents website to the section Katie Says? It's this place where they have a picture of Katie Holmes with a little speech bubble and they make her say whatever they want (right now I think they're doing Go-Betweens lyrics). You can also buy a shirt and make Katie say whatever you want her to. I'm thinking of the Felt quote "We might as well all stay in our rooms until we die"--keep the teachers on their toes. Robyn asked: >what do people think of pop music from the 50s? How about pop music from the '40s (if there is such a thing)? Before I even liked rock and roll at all, I was groovin' my little 10-year-old-self to the likes of Glen Miller and Benny Goodman (seriously!). Swingin'! Sarah asked: >Can we have a TV Personalities thread now, please? Funny she would mention that. About 2 minutes before I read her post I was on the floor laughing uncontrollably to "Little Woody Allen" (seriously!). The Who on acid! Thanks to everyone's repeated name dropping I finally tracked down a copy of The Clientele's "Fading Summer ep". Absolutely beautiful! Am I alone in thinking "An Hour Before the Light" sounds a bit like a tune Nick Drake would've done? I absolutely can't wait till their album this fall. Well, I'm off to make another. . . another . .(augh!) "mix tape". With lots of Field Mice on it, yeah! Ciao, (I would've said "cheers", but pretending to be Italian instead of pretending to be English is much is so much more American, don't you think?:-) Rachel W. "And now we see the elusive . . . the FEARSOME! . . . .. . . .CrocoStimpy!!" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sat Jul 15 12:41:54 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 13:41:54 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Begbie, Scream and Shout! Message-ID: <000a01bfee51$da8871c0$949d243e@itjfvkli> I had a Miles Davis dream last night. Should I be booking a table at the great Plugged Nickel in the sky? So Paul's busy, is he? Busy doing nothing, working the whole day through, trying to find lots of things not to do, I'll be bound. He'd like to be unhappy but he simply doesn't have the time. Last night the BCN/Belgium chapter of Sinister had arranged to meet at a bar described in a local newspaper nightlife guide as "full of very young people who look like they've just come back from record shopping in London". I didn't go, because it was way past my bedtime. Kate Bush has a four octave voice, believe it or not. B&S content. Nick wrote something about someone in the band having said that their lives didn't have to revolve around the band "24/7" as Bob Hoskins might say, and that this means it's OK not to play live (or something like that, I'm paraphrasing wildly here) but not long ago (and this isn't Nick anymore) we were treated to the bizarre sight of Mister Jackson saying IN CAPITAL LETTERS that "this is the profession we have chosen" meaning pop stars or musicians or something. Call me old fashioned, but these two statements seem to be at odds. However they do have one thing in common. Neither would sound out of place coming from a petulant child, or "mardy bum" as we say in the Midlands. Having said that, I couldn't give a monkey's whether they play live or not. I'm sure there's a perfectly good reason. Same thing goes for the Peel session. The appearance of Donald Sutherland in a Kate Bush video was once considered a big deal. Heavens! What's the title of that Floyd track that's supposed to sound like an amazing journey through space, but in fact sounds like a bumpy ride in a bus? Big with stoneheads. It's good, that one is. The Floyd are called Pink after blues legend Pink Anderson, the jammy bastard. Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Sat Jul 15 04:55:54 2000 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 15:55:54 +1200 Subject: Sinister: prog rock Message-ID: <001901bfee10$b1108300$f46137d2@computer> Righto. Also saw "High Fidelity" last night. I thought it made the transfer from the UK to the US quite well ... far better than I expected. I clpped when they played "Seymour Stein". I'm quite surpirsed that song isn't on the soundtrack .... (I also clapped when Dick knocked Ray's teeth out with the phone - proving (perhaps) that I am a little evil.) Sometimes extreme violence in fiction can be very beautiful Especially against such a smug prat as "Ray". ***PROG*** Hmmmm. I always thought I hated prog, but now I'm not too sure. But let me say I DESPISE Rick Wakeman. Evil man ..... Rock opera on ice? WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING!!!!! I think Pink Floyd are "OK". I have no intention of ever owning anything by them, but I can listen to "Dark Side of the Moon" without wanting to kill myself. Unlike either The Vengaboys or Shania Twain. (Canada - how could you DO that to us ....) I think, however, that much of Pink Floyd's music has the illusion of emotional depth, but doesn't really say anything. "Deep and meaningless" would be my soundbite review. Whilst musing over the current prog debtae, though, I came to the conclusion that a lot of the music I like does have links to prog. Like Suede at their finest (ie. "Dog Man Star") and Mansun ("Six") and obviously Ultrasound. And I LOVE those bands. And if "Mellon Collie and the Infinate Sadness" isn't the "Tales from the topographic oceans" for the 90's, I don't know what is. I don't think there is any crime in writing 10 minute songs and using classical elements. I think what I hate about 70's era prog is the whole idea about making "serious" pop music. Music which is "important" because it uses classical elements etc. Forget it pal .... pop music is a completely different animal and I don't think you can place them side by side. (And I wrote a rather excellent essay about this in the final year of my Philosophy degree a few years back. I could be a cold hearted bastard and post the ENTIRE 3000 word doc. to the list. But then no one would ever give me a list crush vote. (sigh) But if anyone wants it, I can probably dig it out. Well, rock on kids..... 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Sat Jul 15 13:19:40 2000 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 05:19:40 -0700 Subject: Sinister: occasional post Message-ID: hello folks, *** PROG ROCK BOLLOCKS *** weird that you're all talking about pink floyd, weirder still that you're talking about them just as i get some bang up to date pink floyd related gossip. the partner of one of my work colleagues is an artist, quite a successful one too, and has just finished touring the states with roger waters, doing all the set design and giant inflatable pigs and stuff. so anyway, on the last date of the tour the band finished their set, and everyone leapt from the stage and ran as fast as they could for the waiting limos, so the artist guy has to leg it after them, and there's this whole crowd of musos and their entourage running like nobody's business, and jumping into a fleet of cars and speeding off down the road. the thing is there were no screaming crowds of fans chasing them or anything, and he still has no idea why they ran off like that. shame perhaps? i used to be a bit of a fan, but i haven't really listened to any of my floyd albums for ten years or so, and think it was probably just a phase i was going through. i suppose you could argue that "i fought in a war" is a bit like pink floyd, if only because roger waters is always going on about wars. i don't think there's anything wrong in liking pink floyd, but they are a bit old and fat and irrelevant now, not unlike myself. i really dislike records by yes though, because the bass is always too loud and sounds terrible. to make matters worse, by the mid eighties the bass player was the only original band member left, and then he even went to court try and stop all the other original band members from releasing a record together - because the sleeve had lettering that looked similar to seventies yes albums. these wild rock stars, eh? even so, rick wakeman does seem like a sound bloke. *** FLOPPYWENCH **** i disagree with the idea that the new album shows its influences less than its predecessors, i think it just shows different influences. i mean, the band play a left banke song live, and then nick the intro for the model... the gentle waves cover a nancy sinatra song, and then isobel comes up with a nancy & lee pastiche... you could even argue that the keyboards on leave the light on have a "theme from taxi" kind of quality to them reminiscent of much of beck's stuff, someone else that they have covered live... i would say that TWATTYBUS displayed the band's influences far less than FLOPPYWENCH. i seem to remember someone, probably mark c complaining that the band don't use flute as much as they did on their early records - is there enough on the new album for you? i'd say there's more flute than there is guitar... almost. brian, i definitely remember you complaining that stevie is always doing that choppy steve cropper guitar thing. it's good to hear "there's too much love" proving that he's learnt to do seventies stax guitar sounds as well as the sixties ones - and on the same song too! no wonder everyone loves it. *** OTHER BANDS *** brian again, the nixon ep that sandcastle released is great, it kind of reminds me of a cross between the acid house kings and another band, but i can't quite place who... has anyone else heard the single "robot trouble" by barcelona? i don't follow the charts, so for all i know it got to number one and i look really stupid for asking. i thought it managed to be funny without being shit, which is quite an achievement really. does anyone know what the four extra tracks that appear on the US release of baxendale's album are? i've already bought the UK version, and am now left pondering whether i should have bought the US one instead. mail ME if you can help, not sinister. its a shame that the clientele felt the need to slag off b&s. i suppose after four years b&s have stopped being a fashionable cause celebre, and are viewed as part of an indie old guard. i still love the clientele though, grumpy old buggers that they are. *** THE NME *** they're a bit sad really aren't they? bye, kevan ps apologies for not making it to the picnic *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walrus1972 at xxx.com Sat Jul 15 17:55:18 2000 From: Walrus1972 at xxx.com (Walrus1972 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 12:55:18 EDT Subject: Sinister: big apology and small pennsylvanian towns Message-ID: <64.4a85308.26a1f176@aol.com> i had a witty opener. mourn it's death. anyway,i finally didn't skip over pee on the sunrise last night. all in all it still makes me feel like a latchkey child. but stu m(i'm guessing,in the background) has a complete gregorian chant moment. it really kills me. and the bit at the end where the guitar gets twangy...very wizard of oz i think. i listened to waiting for the moon to rise closely for the first time too. whoever said they prefer sarah over isobel,i agree i think. isobel is too innocent sounding,and sarah looks like she understands. plus,the 'the days are long where i come form' part does something to me. anyone live in new bloomfield,pennsylvania? just a shot in the dark. i'll meet you somewhere wednesday the 19th. i found a yes record in my basement today. big coincidence. my parents were closet prog-rockers. they've also got dark side of the moon down there. i swiped their police records in a fit of shame and left. danielle i will NOT have electric men rubbing against my walls +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dontlookatmyaddressnaughty at xxx.com Sun Jul 16 04:53:06 2000 From: dontlookatmyaddressnaughty at xxx.com ( ) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 04:53:06 ICT Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #218 Message-ID: <20000715215306.27544.qmail@hotmail.com> had a nice distressing day today folks the most distressing aspect of this was a man walking past me int eh street with a bottle of wine in a brown paper bag mumbling ''im bored cos im boring, im vomiting because i am vomit'' distresing beyond-BELIEF as you can see sorry. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Sun Jul 16 02:54:18 2000 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 21:54:18 -0400 Subject: Sinister: god is a place you will wait for the rest of your life Message-ID: <002201bfeec8$c219bdc0$a8553004@woody> listen: somewhere i've read that the only reason we ask for advice is to attempt to disobey the truth we know to exist with perhaps brief and temporary supplemental drivel. perhaps not in those words exactly, but in the same ball park. there's nothing like ballparkin' a quote. listen: so what i need is advice. and it's a bit of a dilemma. it's something i realize to be not only far-fetched and totally hilariously stupid (but stupid in a newly stupid way, very refreshing. the type of stupid that slaps you twice, back and forth, in the face, and then you feel your eyes swimming in your skull, as if for the first time). this advice pertains to a situation that could very well be its own b&s song. unfortunately, it's not, and instead, it's a window in my albeit short yet terribly emotionally vulnerable life. listen: so i work in a bookstore. a barnes and noble to be exact. and let me first say how embarassed i am of my previous post and the girl i fell in love with. if i only realized that things like those happen way too often than i can fully contemplate and register. anyways, i work in a bookstore. and i was at the information station, which for those of you who've never entered such a terrible corporate establishment such as this, it's a desk in the middle of the store that directs people to books. sometimes i wish the books would just walk away. anyways. ok so this girl came up. and she was beautiful. yes. very much so. can anyone describe that feeling? it's a weird thing...it's like a numbness. anyways, i'm being way too long with this. so she asked for the high school reading lists for the area (yes, she is in high school, but then again, i'm still a teenager too) and i helped for 15 minutes or so. talking to her. recommending books (invisible man was one....hmm), and flashing my finally brace-less smile. anyways. i was flirting my pants off. not literally. yet. but we never really got into a my-dad-is-dying-we're-going-to-just-bury-him-tomorrow discussion in terms of personal closeness. so i let her take the list with her, into the fiction section, while i helped other customers. five minutes pass. i return to my desk. and i see the notebook. and i being, the stupid terrible romantic IDIOT that i am, look through it. and what do i find? i find a name and number. ahhh!!! listen: here's the question--did she leave it for me? did she write it? is it her number?! or am i hallucinating? the exact details were: a full name (first AND last name) with a number, local. AND a cell phone number. how do i know? there's a number, and then it says: cell. listen: 1% of me thinks she left the number hoping i'd call. 99% of me thinks i'm very stupid and gullible for even thinking about this, at all. now this is very very well travelled notebook. it's seen a thousand hands and been dropped everywhere, and been left in every crevice mentionable. i just don't know. my female friend told me that if she did in fact leave this number, she'd never show her face in the store again, because she'd take my not calling as a sign of rejection. argh! and no, the number is not listed in the phonebook. unlisted...hmm. so i could call. but what would i say? i could ask for ____ and if a grown woman answers, i could just hang up. i need advice. someone fill my mind with sane thoughts. because i know, and you obviously know, if you've read for this long, that sane thoughts are far, far away. until the next girl breaks my heart, the nerdy shy eyed pacifist blake broken hearts anonymous http://members.tripod.com/nucleartrout +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris.jones at xxx.uk Sun Jul 16 11:38:14 2000 From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2000 11:38:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Musings from the feast Message-ID: <200007161141.e6GBfEt17587@smtp.saqnet.co.uk> This looks like the first picnic post, so I suppose it had better be good in order to set a precedent for those that follow. Despite having been on the list for some considerable time now, I had never before ventured out to play with the sinister crowd. I'm now really glad that I finally did. I probably didn't show it, because I only said about 3 words the whole time, but it was nice to meet so many people whose minds work the same way as mine. It was quite odd meeting people whose greatness I have been in awe of. Truly fantastic to see the ever youthful Mr. Dastoor, Mark, Lucy, Pamela and the Steves' (to name a few), but the greatest honour of all to be bestowed on me was finally being in the presence of the legend, Miss Erica MacArthur. As I hobbled off round the tube on my way home (nasty injury preventing me playing football you see) I felt a twee, smug, warm sensation inside having met so many wonderful people (or more correctly, having been met by, as my shyness usually prevented me from saying anything back). I do apologise for not really speaking, but I was paying attention the whole time, just observing with quiet wonderment how great it is that such a friendly group of people can be born out a passion for a twee little Scottish band. That was a big paragraph. I'm sure it should have been split up in places, but my English has gone to pot. Well, I'm looking forward with relish to another meet up and hoping that there may be a Tigermilking before the end of the summer, but no pressure Mark! Bye bye lovely people. Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sun Jul 16 14:31:01 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 15:31:01 +0200 Subject: Sinister: The Hunt for Rodd October Message-ID: <002401bfef2a$50430e60$1c9d243e@itjfvkli> Of course Jordi isn't a dick slap. It was just a play on words. I don't know what a dick slap is. I should have followed Sir Cliff's advice and said "Jordi and the Dream of Horses". Jordi is a splendid chap, as many of you already know. I just thought I'd clear that up. Before he gets his own back... One of the topics we touched on the other day was the lack of concerts. Apparently dates *were* pencilled in, so something must have happened. I don't think it's just wilful indie-schmindieness. But I don't know. Perhaps the long-awaited next instalment of "diary of a band" will throw some light on the matter. Face facts kids, at least when you can't be bothered to do your homework or go and meet your mates you can at least cheer yourself up with the thought that you're being Belle and Sebastian-ish. I'm hoping against hope that the delay has been caused by the B!O!A!T! being inconveniently booked up until next year. My, those were the days. I bought a Beenie Man album, but I'm taking it back again. Bloody rubbish, it is. His first album was called "The Invincible Beenie Man, Ten Year Old Deejay Wonder". During our picnic the other day, the song "Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime" by The Korgis (?) came on. Sent shivers down my spine. Pop is all about moments. Floyd content: The other day I said "See Emily Play" was perfect. It isn't. Because of the words "you'll lose your mind", a tedious subject before they ever really got started on it. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pixidustlady at xxx.uk Sun Jul 16 16:13:40 2000 From: pixidustlady at xxx.uk (the original pixidustlady) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 16:13:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: systematic destruction of sanity. Message-ID: <003201bfef38$909d53e0$bfce28c3@pixidustlady> hey everyone! thanks to sophie and jay and paul for reassurance that the world isn't all bad.... having a bit of a rant today. paul already knows this, as it was conceived in its present form in a personal mail to him (you can skip this bit paul) anyway, here is my problem >>>>>> " society and the state and all the institutions associated with those things. the government and the finance industry. nobody is seen as an individual anymore, everyone has to be pidgeon-holed into one category or another. the world is so big that everyone just gets lost in a sea of faces and numbers. i'm not a person, i'm a number. i dont qualify for this benefit or that benefit, i do qualify for this that and something else. feed my number into a computer and you can know everything about me. its such utter bullshit. i went to the bank the other day. i want to get a small overdraft to tide me over until i get paid for my summer job. i get paid in arrears you see, so i dont get to see any money until august 15th, although by then i will have been working for over 6 weeks. its a really good job, great pay and everything. but i dont have enough money in my bank account to last me until the middle of august. i have to pay for things like bus fares and lunch and its my mums birthday in three days. so i went to the bank to see if they'd give me a £100 overdraft for 4 weeks. when i get paid i'll have more than enough to pay it off, and my student loan will be going in as well in september. but because there's been very little activity on my card for the last three months (because i'm a student and dont have any money to spare for things like shopping) they wont give me any money. its so silly. for the bank to give me an overdraft, i have to have money already going in and out of my account. BUT IF I HAD MONEY GOING IN AND OUT OF MY ACCOUNT I WOULDN'T NEED A FUCKING OVERDRAFT. i just dont understand the logic behind this system, and the way its geared against helping people. i feel so helpless and insignificant, because some computer is making decisions about whether or not i qualify for help, and this stupid machine doesn't even take into account my personal circumstances. i told this to the woman in the bank and she said to me that if they made decisions about giving people overdrafts based on everyone's individual circumstances, that would take all day. i felt so insulted. the whole thing is a time-saving (therefore money-saving/cost-cutting) exercise!!!! i couldn't bluddy well believe it." i dont think this the first time that i've come up against "The System" in my young adult life, but this is the first time its having a directly negative effect on me and my sanity. i hate borrowing money from my parents cos my dad has always tried to control me with his money (the tight-fisted scheming bastard that he is). i KNOW life isnt fair. i KNOW life isnt always logical. i just thought there might be a bit more common sense and compassion in the world. no wonder everything is so fucked up. society just doesnt trust anyone anymore. the whole state is paranoid. this is why i love B&S and this list so much. a little haven of niceness and trust in the middle of this awful awful fucked up society. which leads me to the thought that Syeven Wells probably has a lot to answer for.....cultivating intolerance and ill-feeling. thoughts on this anyone? sorry, very long and self-involved post, but thanx for reading (if you got this far!) personal replies are always welcomed love, karenxxxxxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Sun Jul 16 19:17:01 2000 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 19:17:01 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Has anyone seen my keys? Message-ID: <20000716181701.11003.qmail@web310.mail.yahoo.com> Oh it's okay, they're here. Ow my head... Top quality brains-in-a-vice hangover this morning after yesterday's booze and hill-climbing fest. Thanks to everyone I met for making me welcome and apologies to anyone I offended as the lager demons gradually took over my mind and body. Sorry I wasn't up for the football but my only use to any team would be to startle and confuse the opposition with my complete lack of apparent skill or aptitude for the game. How scary is it when you get on the tube to go home 'cos you live about 60 miles away and a complete stranger says they recognise you and has enough supporting information to back up their claim? Freaked me out I can tell you. Still have no idea who they were as any details they gave me have now vanished from my chemical-soaked mind. Love to you all... Robster ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Sun Jul 16 19:20:23 2000 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 14:20:23 -0400 Subject: Sinister: updatED history Message-ID: <002501bfef52$831aed80$6a553004@woody> honey, i am so sorry for clogging the list with this. also, to those of you who are disgusted with me, i am sorry. anyways, before anyone else sends me advice (and there has been lots, thanks to all), i really really need to clarifty--i made a boo-boo. i was very unclear about the notebook itself. it belongs to the bookstore. it IS the reading list. she left it behind because it doesn't belong to her. which makes things very dicey. but i think it's all for naught: the numbers numbering the pages matches the handwriting, which means the name and number is probably the school english person. hmm. so sad, oh well. b&s content: i listen to there's too much love thrice a day and it keeps me regular. and the new neil young is ace. byeeee the nerdy shy eyed pacifist blake http://members.tripod.com/nucleartrout +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sink at xxx.gr Sun Jul 16 15:17:48 2000 From: sink at xxx.gr (Joan of Dark) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 17:17:48 +0300 Subject: Sinister: ...Out of the nursery and into the streets.... Message-ID: <3971C40C.D4DCCDE8@x-treme.gr> ...It's a grey, cold, not very promising Sunday morning. Kinda windy, streets are empty.Soft, reluctant rays of early sun hover in the air, hesitant for a while, then land helpless on the sad moist pavements. Joan's treading's resounding although she's trying really hard not to shuffle her feet.She's wearing her faded flares-how many times she'd been frowned upon for them from passers by and friends- and a creased t-shirt with a funny little bus and a large tea stain ( for that reason it will therefore be referred to as: teashirt).It's quite cold today for someone to wander in the streets wearing only a teashirt but her only sweater was carelessly thrown on the floor of her room,a comfortable fluffy matress under her-even more fluffy-still asleep cat now.She didn't want to wake The Cat up (she wouldn't bother finding him a name, anyways he didn't seem to like any of the previous ones, he would just blatantly ignore her)...it would be such a pity.He spent the whole night curled on her cold feet.Joan has her headphones on.As always.She'll prolly be listening to that worn out tape she always carries with her.The one with the chipped corner and the little sticker "B&S" on. She's been really sad lately.For a reason she doesn't know.It's like, you know, someone has pulled the drain cap and everything inside her started spinning around and then dissapear in the vacuum outside her body.And now she's left with that feeling of tears pricking her eyes all the time and the constantly moist and out-of-this-world gaze as a result,-cos tears can really hurt you know-,her 18 years in vain and the strange melodies of flute and strings and haunting mellotron streaming from her headphones and flooding her soul . She's going to the park.She'll lie on her back on the grass, it makes her feel all itchy and stuff sometimes maybe she'll sneeze a couple of times but then she'll be ok,and watch the clouds change colours and shapes. Reaching her favourite place she sees some kids, 'round her age. "Well,they're still kids,I guess" she thinks. "Cos they're certainly not grown-ups,and only grown-ups can be referred to as "people"and "people" is something bad and meaningless and impersonal altogether.And I'm not that old after all!!" So they all were,quite logically, a bunch of kids, lying on blankets or on the grass,drinking,laughing their brains out, playing soccer further away,reciting poems and quotes to each other,dead excited about the festivals they've been to,their new jobs and just finishing their finals. Some of them were throwing things to each other,chasing around and saying bad bad words presumably arguing on some Pink Void or Joe Floyd or was it Boyd??Whatever....Pink Panther was the coolest of them all......Someone took something out of his bag and shouted to the others that there it was,original apple butter with all the traditional ingredients and stuff .After tasting it they all aggred that apple was prolly a product that derived from apple butter and they all went weeeeee!!!!!crazy and I guess a jar wasn't enough for everybody. Anyway she didn't want to cause them trouble and went and sat under a tree and watched them having a good time during their summer wasting.But then she saw that boy she knew from long ago and reluctantly raised her arm and waved and Jason saw her and went and sat by her and then a couple of kids from her eastern neighborhood she'd never spoken to before approached and ,in a while, everyone was curious about what were the others doing under that tree with that strange girl and came there too, bringing their happy noises and joy and apple butter with them , some even brought their sorrow that had already started fading away and everything was so nice that even the clouds went away and a big big yellow sun appeared and the kids took off their sweaters and, what a surprise!!!Under their sweaters was that funny little bus teeshirt and all the funny little buses started honking in delight and the day was beautiful. ...Ummmm.......I guess that's all from me.I'm Joanna ,this is my first post and I'd love to be your friend if you could stand me..... xxx ......to all of you..... "...till I open mah eyes again and feel them adjust back to grey, for everything is forever grey and the pressure unner mah ribs is hurting me, breathing is getting harder, lungs will cleave apart, only just one half swallered and the pressure...the pressure...the planets of pain..." "And The Ass Saw The Angel" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david at xxx.uk Sun Jul 16 18:20:49 2000 From: david at xxx.uk (David White) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 18:20:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Banks Message-ID: >>BANKS<< I f*cking hate banks too. I remember a couple of years ago when I asked my bank if I could have a Switch card so that I could access and spend MY own money where and when I wanted they said no because they wanted to wait and monitor my usage of my account for 6 months before they would consider trusting me with a card (despite the fact I'd had an account in the same branch for over 10 years and had never been overdrawn or even close to it). I told them where to shove their account and took all my money to another bank which was only to happy to give me what I wanted. The point is though what gives them the right to tell me I can't get to my money using a system which surely is more convenient for them cos I don't have to use their branches or their blessed cashpoint machines and more convenient to me cos I don't have to carry cash. Banks would do well to remember that the average guy in the street is their lifeblood. Sure they could probably live off the interest they charge to third world countries or clubbing baby seals to death or whatever it is these evil bastards do but they must make a hell of a lot of money out of ordinary people. As for getting an overdraft, try another bank. Most of them are fairly kind towards students in the hope they can bleed them dry in later life with mortgage charges etc. but to be honest if I could I'd keep my money under a matress (sure it might get nicked if someone broke in but at least the robber wouldn't be on 100 grand a year and driving a company BMW.) Crikey, that must read like the rantings of one of these reclaim the streets nutters that went on the riot in London the other month (which I might add I am definitely not) but these big corporations really piss me off. Need to go and let off steam now. >>CONTENT<< Visit www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk if you want Goodbye, Dave david at djwhite47.freeserve.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sophiesea at xxx.com Sun Jul 16 19:05:56 2000 From: sophiesea at xxx.com (sophie harris) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 18:05:56 GMT Subject: Sinister: fuzzy head Message-ID: <20000716180557.66081.qmail@hotmail.com> hellllooooo! and a great big yawn from me (hmm how I do not love auto formatting- is it so wrong to want to stay in lower case?) ^� but aaanyway ^� a yawn cause I have just woken up ^� it^�s gone six, but I had such an astonishingly terrible ^� no, bloody stupid ^� day, that I had to go to bed on it and try again^�. so far so good^� the sad thing is, is that I had the most *wonderful* day yesterday at the picanic ^� truly it made me smile all the way home till my head hit the pillow^� and I just want to say thanks, so so much to all of you for being special and quite amazing and ummmmmmm^� yeah^� keep having little pockets of nice memories of things said / done ^� elenita, a while back as I recall, said ^�that^�ll be a nice picnic :)^� and she was right. however, I shall leave a big detailed account to dabber hands than mine, and briefly say boo hoo to my horrid day. and to miss pixiedust who seems to^�ve hadthe wind taken out of her wings by foul bank things. they can be utter bastards, it^�s true ^� my worst student overdaraft type swrangles tend to be of the ^�over overdraft limit, so haha what a clever idea ^� we^�ll fine you and take you even further over! And then fine you again!^�etc, whilst rubbing hands together gleefully of course. It^�s horrid, poor you. My rubbish thing then ^�woke up bravely fighting hangover ^� all trains cancelled at lee (borough of a thousand enchantements) station ^�missed train at leweisham by one min, and watched it speed away ^� finally got to work, and door locked, no security guard to let me in^� afer 20 mins he arrives,but says as I have no id, he can^�t let me up ^� even tho same guard let me in last Sunday^� hmmm.. ^� was v upset and hadproper barney with guard, him refusign to let me up, all ridiculous really. And in the end I had to just go hoem, back the way I came. wanted to cry and v frustrated. I tried, I really tried to make day better ^� went to nat. portrait gallery on way back, ^�cause I keep meaning to, and I wanted to get liz taylor postacards for various peeps ^� really quite enjoyed bp exhibition, nice picture of a girl sleeping (I voted it as my fave) ^� but some one trod on me precisely where my favorite red shoes had gven me a blister yesterday ^� and she said sorry, and I wanted to say oh that^�s okay, don^�t worry, but it really hurt, and all I managed was a feeble owww^� and went to get liz card, and they only had multipacks, so had to abandon shop. I shouldve bought a rubber or a pencil sharpener perhaps.oh dear, I^�ve just had a look a t this and I suspevt the bozard person wil have a field day. nevermind. so anyway. *and* my ^�puter^�s broken at honme, so I^�m at my dad^�s now, and my little brother (who is *beautiful* and looks like that harry potter) is waiting to play ^�riven^�. I might join him. Actually last time I played his game, I couldn^�t even get the plane to take off properly and crashed. I doubt riven will be much more successful. anyway. but you are all really *quite* the loveliest and and and ^� little squeezes to you all and posies of flowers and stuff... xs ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Sun Jul 16 21:27:42 2000 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 21:27:42 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Ease your feet in the sea Message-ID: Dear all: I see the 1400 or so of you must be doing well unlike myself,given the increase of posting during my absence last week.As some alternative formulation of that toast theorem,if one does not check his/her mailbox for 5 days,Sinister will be resuscitated to the good old babbling days and even Adrian Evans shall make a come back from the Devonic era challenging geological assumptions. Perhaps induced telephatically by Ms A. Campbell's wit and wisdom,we spent the British & Continental International Day of the Picnic in the shockingly flatlands of Lincolnshire,that is,SKEGGY.Nottingham,starting with its railway station,looks truly grand and debonair by comparison when I came back this evening.I promise I will appreciate the existence of shops not called Derek's Fab Ice Creams or Bargain-LessaPound-Land in the next future. However,an oxidated shelter in Skegness' promenade is as Kitchen Sink drama as it is possible to go.No irony possible when you are surrounded by people 4 years younger than you with 4 kids to carry.No better scenario for a day as today. I got home and played whatever it was in my Hi-Fi while I walked in circles in my new servant-like room.It was Tigermilk,the very first tape I was given by the first person I met from this list...On the verge of tears while 'We rule the School','My Wandering..',and 'Mary Jo',finally the extra bit at the end of Side A with 'The Loneliness of the Mid-Distance runner' turned out to be uplifting enough,I plucked up courage,left the house to enjoy the last sunshine of this Sunday,and went to check my mail.And Sinister was here,debating how shite Pink Floyd were or not,inviting to meet up with Peter Sellers in Bar-Cel-Ona,gnawing cheese with Field Mice,getting drunk without help. Thank you,really.Love Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wmh74 at xxx.com Mon Jul 17 01:55:15 2000 From: wmh74 at xxx.com (William Harris) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 17:55:15 PDT Subject: Sinister: B&S and the flaming hand Message-ID: <20000717005515.26198.qmail@hotmail.com> Comrades. Thought I'd take a plunge into the slightly frightening and sinister world here as I got out of the nursury a week or so ago. Yes...yet another babe. I suppose I could chime in about the whole Floyd thread, but you all seem to be doing quite nicely on that front. Instead, I think I'll just tell a little story about how B&S found me (or vice versa). If you get annoyed at silly stories, please skip this post. About three years ago, I was sitting in the vulgar and shady backyard of my friend's parents place (she had just graduated college or something and we were all celebrating). I didn't really know a lot of the people there and those that I did know, I tried to avoid. Another friend of mind (Josh) was there and so we retired to the corner of the yard with our beverages and started to shoot the proverbial breeze, etc. The night wore on and on and Josh started to tell me of this wonderful, shiny new CD he had bought (B&S of course--IYFS). When he went to go get the CD from his car or wherever he had the thing stashed (perhaps I'd rather not know this) and retrieve a portable CD player, a few other folks wandered by. One of them (Jay) was one of those morons who don't quite know they are morons, but somewhere deeply buried in their psyche they have a vague sensation that they actually *might* be. Does that make sense? Like he feels slightly goofy for being so thick-skulled, but he does nothing to stop it (if you feel I'm being overly judgemental please read on). So there we were. Sitting under a large oak tree, drinking and (eventually) listening to Belle and Sebastian. It was wonderful. From the first tenative "Make a new cult everday to suit your affairs" I knew this was special. Until Jay began to get rather sloppily drunk and decided he would do a shot of something or other and light it on fire. Jay took his bottle and poured a very full shot and a bunch of the alcohol spilled onto his hand and arm. He giggled and took out a lighter (I tried to warn him I swear). Well, of course, phoof. Right when I was really digging "Like Dylan in the Movies"...Jay's waving his flaming hand in the air fueling the flames and they grew and grew and we yelled at him to smother the flames (Oh how alcohol burns!) and he's just got this kind of bemused look on his face like this is the coolest thing he's ever seen and not really worried that the flames are starting to dart up his arm toward his shoulder. Finally I jumped up and took off my shirt (not for the faint hearted) and smothered the flames. It took a few seconds and Jay is laughing 'cause he's so drunk and rather a moron anyway (do you see now?). Well...the drama really added to the music (not that it really needs it). But we sat back down and I thought how nice it was to have "found" a new band that was soooo fey and silly and beautiful and not at all like Jay and his singed hand. That's all for now. Love, sinister giggles, and hugs (or pats on the backs for any who shy from physical contact), Bill H. PS--Jay was fine. We got him to the hospital and they wrapped up his 2nd degree burns and that's the last I saw of him. PPS--Am in Chicago now, but will be moving to Seattle in mid-August. Any sinisterees in these parts e-mail me (not the list of course) and maybe we can set something up. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brian_away at xxx.com Mon Jul 17 02:35:41 2000 From: brian_away at xxx.com (Brian Phillips) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 18:35:41 PDT Subject: Sinister: the word "ace" Message-ID: <20000717013541.47981.qmail@hotmail.com> It's interesting to see the lovely UK residents use "ace" as a positive adjective, where a lot of us across the pond in the colonies use it in a different sense. At least in my little circle of friends, we use "ace" as a slightly more polite "ass". It's not as churchy as "butt" (not that butt can really be "churchy" either...), but it's less vulgar than "ass". Example: (as girl in bikini walks by) "Look at THAT ace!" Example 2: "stick it up your ace" Please excuse the profanity, as well as the pseudo-profanity... Brian http://www.defeat.cjb.net ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mouche75 at xxx.com Mon Jul 17 02:50:37 2000 From: Mouche75 at xxx.com (Mouche75 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 21:50:37 EDT Subject: Sinister: kissing etc. Message-ID: <43.798ad94.26a3c06d@aol.com> Hey Sinister People, Are you all well? And dandy? I'm not too bad, cept it's a little cold. You know the picnic in Sheffield on Saturday? I was in Manchester on Saturday morning and I saw a 95 bus going to Simister. And my vision was a little skewed and I was a probably still a little bit drunk, and my shoes were on the wrong feet and all that kind of stuff, and for about three seconds, I really believed that 'Simister' read 'Sinister'. Everything kind of clicked into place and I imagined the bus as a clunky, puffy old Charlie's Bus, crawling through country lanes over to Sheffield, driven by a twinkly-eyed cheeky Pilsbury DoughBoy in flares and a cap, honking the horn, and the back seats full of kids licking apple butter off each others' fingers. Stopping off various bakers' on the route, before letting everyone pile off to roll about for a few hours before taking 'em back to Manchester. But then everything cleared, and all I saw was a dusty old bus dragging itself out to Simister. Sheesh. I had a cracking weekend though. A Room For Romeo Brass is out on video next month. I've checked the archives and I know it's been mentioned on the list and I'm sorry to mention it again, but it really is fantastic. The use of B&S on the soundtrack is perfect, you get the feeling that Shane Meadows... um... gets it. Y'know, the sense of malevolence and of implicit violence and of things not being quite right that crops up in SM's lyrics. It's my favourite film this year, definitely. I've got a funny, queasy feeling about B&S not doing anything for a year. When I first heard "Dirty Dream#2" live I misheard "comedian" as "chameleon" and convinced myself it was about Stuart wishing he'd been in The Chameleons and stayed a perennially romantic underacheiver. I was sure it was code that something was wrong. I know I was wrong, but I've got that same, queasy feeling again. Oh, and before I forget, on Wednesday 5th July 2000 at 19:38GMT Emily Bishop said: >I don't want to turn into some mithering old woman... And I thought "You've been nothing but that since Percy left, and even then you were the weak link..." It's late and I have to be up early tomorrow. We've got a drummer now, and we're all meeting up in Crosshouse. I'm proud in a funny way, I bet there aren't many bands who conduct their business in the hospital cafeterias. So I'll hit the hay. Be sweet, mouche +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Mon Jul 17 03:20:45 2000 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 02:20:45 GMT Subject: Sinister: Milk ain't the only thing that should be skimmed... Message-ID: <20000717022045.74438.qmail@hotmail.com> Milkmaids and spinisterines, books and book conventions, solo roadtrips and summer flings, work, work, work, work, work. We never see the light of day. No one really posts for weeks and rumors has it that Miss Honey ran off with a farmhand and has gotten herself knocked up (nothing like a blatantly false rumor to start off a post. I�m getting back into the swing of things now, baby!). I'm disgusted. I'm sorry but it's not like me, I'm depressed. There was what, no one at the mutant squirrel races and we had one entry into the Isobel Campbell look-alike contest and he was disqualified later. Why do I bother? Oh, I never claimed to be a "Real Genuis" anyway... Miss Laura Llew It�s not just my name. It is a command. I�m gone for the summer and does anyone even notice my absence? No sirree (not even Ree!). No one writes. No sonnets dedicated in my memory. No Petrarchs being resurrected for me. All I want is a small statue made out of spam dedicated to my glory. Is this too much to ask? I would even settle for a jello mold that kind of resembles me if I were to tilt my head and squint my eyes but noooooooo. To punish you all, I�m going to shock this list by actually posting some musings over our favorite group, Pink Floyd. Erh.... No. I mean that other group we used to talk about. You know, the one with the guy with the twee voice and that chic who plays cello with the healthy bum.... Is anyone else wondering when someone will stand up and take credit for being the master behind the artwork that inspired the title for the new album? Remember what James Carville (close enough) said about those who were making claims about Bill Clinton�s deeds (Why are we just now calling him a lame duck?) There�s no telling what you�ll get when you drag a 100 dollar bill through a trailer park. Well, can you imagine what we�d find trolling for a clever bathroom graffiti artists? I had heard someone mention an article about Belle & Sebastian in a respectable magazine like Time. (I like a group featured in Time? Am I getting to be middle-aged already?) I just happened to be in the Doctor�s office a couple of weeks later and so I decided to hunt for it. A couple of the other people in the waiting room gave me funny looks as I collected all of the issues of Time in a neat pile (they�re printed weekly and I didn�t know which issue it was in) and methodically went through each one skimming for a picture of my future cabana boy. When I would come up empty, I would quickly discard the magazine - tossing it aside almost decapitating some wary patients who soon learned the art of ducking. Six knocked over lamps later, I found it! Eureka! (but no pics of Stu in the bath tub). I can�t say a bad thing about Stu but the other members of the band were looking kind of shady in their pictures, eh? There was a 'precious' mention of The Catcher in The Rye. The article quoted some internet fan as posting something to the effect of, "The new Belle & Sebastian album is beautiful. There is a God!!!" Well, you know it wasn�t it from this list since it became uncool to actually like the album. Ignore my cynicism and lets move on to a deeper subject of discussion. I somehow doubt that if there is a God he is going to display his presence through a Scottish band�s album. Call me a religious elitist, I know. As all southerners know, God only displays his presence through billboards with witty saying like, "Nice wedding. Invite me to the marriage", "Which part of 'thou shalt not' did you not understand?", "My way is the highway", "The ten commandments aren�t multiple choice" and "If you use my name in vain again, I�ll make the commute home longer". Yes, billboards with these sayings and then the name GOD penned under it pepper the Interstates of the Southern United States. I�m not sure who sponsors them (some reason I think the Almighty himself might choose a better color scheme then the pasty drabness usually used) but I find them amusing as I�m cruising looking for young impressionable boys in which I can sweet talk into buying me lots of books. Mmm, thinking of books I have a new recommendation. It�s a Belle and Sebastian recommendation even and I expect you all to read it. I see you sweating.Don�t worry it�s a children's book so there are lots of pretty pictures. The Book: Miss Rumphius The Author: Cooney The Belle & Sebby Song It Correlates With: I Could Be Dreaming. The line: "Do something pretty while you can" It won a book award and I find it quite nice. While I�m not as fond of it as Dr. Seuss (who I sport socks dedicated to his characters daily) or "Tuesday" (nothing like flying frogs!), I do find it to be a great book with a Belle and Sebby theme. Rah! If I had known that Julie was left by her lonesome in New York, I would have dropped by while I was up there last weekend. Jules & I bonded after we both found out that we had fallen in love with boys who had wandered into the bookstore and bought a book of Dorothy Parker poetry. Oh the things that will make young girls swoon! We could have rented Twin Peaks and had a marathon. A friend and I discussed once and figured the elements of such would be coffee (well hot chocolate for me and not just because I put a fish in the percolator), cherry pie, and a dead girl in a plastic bag for effect. You have some extra roommates lying around, don�t you Julie? (Megan, be thankful you�re in Oregon). I checked out the movie "Laura" from the Library this weekend. It is an older movie also featuring a dead girl named Laura. I recommend it highly but then again I would. And on a personal note (which is a bit flat) - I went on my first solo roadtrip! I have cut the US horizontally by car almost 10 times by now and have taken it from every angle possible so I decided to go straight up to New York. It was just me, my car, a bag of salt & vinegar chips, root beer, and some shoddy mix tapes. I disturbed myself by at one point listening to music in alphabetical order. I had the Silver Jews, Silversun, The Smiths, and then I started to scare myself so I threw in Simon & Garfunkel to keep myself sane (probably the only time S&G�s music was used for that purpose!). I drove the entirety of the beautiful Blue Ridge Parkway (a 500 mile scenic drive which cuts through the Blue Ridge Mountains which run from Pennsylvania to Georgia. However, the parkway itself only covers from North Carolina to the Shenandoah Valley in Virginia where it then turns into Skyland Drive and you have to pay a whopping 10 dollars just to drive the stinking road which has potholes! All I�m screaming, at the top of my lungs like a demon possessed banshee and my pocket 10 dollars lighter, is that if I�m paying that much to drive a drive than I shouldn�t have to replace two tires at the end of it. Plus, for ten bucks I could use some entertainment like those deer that were just frolicking by the side of the road at every curve should have some top hats on and some canes. I wanna a musical! and maybe a back massage by the cute forest ranger who took my money..). I also met my first Belle and Sebastian fan (besides the sleepy eye girl that keeps haunting me in the mirror every time I brush my teeth in the morning). We didn�t actually talk about the band but I did catch a glimpse of the larger than Llew poster of Joy Division in their room and I fell in love instantly. Don�t worry, it wasn�t anyone from the list so I�m still a Sinister Virgin and Enigma. I love you all. That other mailing list meant nothing to me. Wawa Woo (my twee name) �meeting all of your Laura Llew needs since 1977� (Name Dropping Time) PS - Willzebub Porter (aka Preposition Prince), I had to make sure you didn�t get bored so I put gramatical errors by the spoonful in there just for you. It has nothing at all to do with the fact that rereading what I�ve written is more painful than a Kathy Lee Gifford cruise line commercial. PPS- Velocity Girl, I hope your arm is healing painlessly. Being a spinisterine you�re lucky it wasn�t your hip! PPPS- Jan Imgrund will kick me but I�m my book list is becoming stale and I need more recommendations to keep me busy. The current list is found at http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/litlist.htm PPPPS - Arantxa, I have fallen in love with you. Whether it�s your use of sexy words like algonquin table or the fact your name reminds me of Anthrax, I know not. Let's form some underground writing guild of some sort. Well, we'll use that as a cover and in fact just meet and say snipey things to each other. PPPPPS - I have also decided to adore William (Bill) Harris. Unless your middle name is Andrew and you were born in 1974. Then, I want my "Angle of Repose" book and black fleece with the green trim back NOW, you petty little thief. PPPPPPS- Damon, I�m sorry I didn�t get in touch with you last week. There were 'complications' but I�ll be back in the later part of September running around the hospital in one of those gowns that don�t close in the back like a wild wood nymph screaming for some pain killers, a tongue depressor, and a stethoscope for a nifty little experiment that I�ve been concocting in my mind for months now. PPPPPPPS - Can Linda be bribed? PPPPPPPPS - I need a new dark haired, book & pixie loving boy to develop a crush on now that the fabled Jim Gilmer has quit the list in favor of some writing camp with famous people mentoring him daily. Oh the pain! PPPPPPPPPS - Can I make my PS�s longer than my actual posts? Dang, this thing has been long. I'm sorry. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From declan63 at xxx.com Mon Jul 17 04:09:16 2000 From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 23:09:16 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Milk ain't the only thing that should be skimmed... References: <20000717022045.74438.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <001301bfef9c$6ae08960$2a101218@athen1.ga.home.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Llew" To: Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 10:20 PM Subject: Sinister: Milk ain't the only thing that should be skimmed... > PPPPS - Arantxa, I have fallen in love with you. Whether it's your use of > sexy words like algonquin table or the fact your name reminds me of Anthrax, > I know not. Let's form some underground writing guild of some sort. Well, > we'll use that as a cover and in fact just meet and say snipey things to > each other. > PPPPPPPPS - I need a new dark haired, book & pixie loving boy to develop a > crush on now that the fabled Jim Gilmer has quit the list in favor of some > writing camp with famous people mentoring him daily. Oh the pain! well, the best i can do is that i'm a dark haired, constantly reading boy in georgia who was getting quite tipsy in the algonquin round room last month (the ugly truth is that my sinister photo was taken moments afterwards), and have a friend who i believe *is* the reincarnated dorothy...at least she was before she got married, sadly, but my name is nowhere near as interesting as arantxa's. :) jay, who asks if he forgot to mention that he would make passes at girls who wear glasses if he didn't share blake's shyness, especially around coffee/bookstore employees, and is shamelessly plugging himself! oh yeah............i like the new album! it's ace! "how should i react? these things happen to other people" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Mon Jul 17 09:43:48 2000 From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (Linda Kerr) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 09:43:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: (Fwd) Sorry to keep you waiting... (about gigs) Message-ID: <200007170843.JAA13317@punt1.hw.ac.uk> Hi - forwarding a message from Belle & Sebastian management. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 15:42:05 +0100 From: Katrina House To: honey Subject: Sorry to keep you waiting... X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Hi. I just thought I'd drop you a line to explain the whole "band taking a break" thing. Firstly, I'm really surprised that this has caused anything like a fuss. I can understand what it's like waiting to see a band. The Pixies are my favourite band ever, and I waited ages to see them. I finally got the chance once, when they played the SECC in Glasgow. Unfortunately, the stage collapsed after two songs (Francis had been on the pies again) and the gig was cancelled. The Pixies split up and I never saw them again. The thing is, bands disappear for years at a time all the time. B&S have given us four albums in as many years. That's pretty prolific. Admittedly live gigs have been fairly scarce, but I don't think anyone's ever tried to disguise the fact that B&S aren't a touring band. For the moment though, they're just having some time off. Nick was spot on when he quoted Stuart's "playing in the band isn't a job that seven people's lives have to revolve around". There will be another Gentle Waves LP in the autumn. Beans & Stevie are both playing with V-Twin, who have a single out in September. The Amphetameanies album is just out, and that's keeping Mick busy. Richard and his mate have recorded a single under the name of the Magic 8. Richard & Mick are both playing with Snow Patrol too. Stevie is playing with the Bill Wells Octet. Beans is helping Astrid in the studio, and has two clubs to run. Everyone has always had plenty of other things to do. When the break is over, everyone will get back together and rehearse for live dates. This will probably take a while, as the band only did two gigs in '99 and none in 2000. They'll keep rehearsing until they're absolutely sure they're doing it the best way possible. Then they'll tour, and you'll enjoy it because it will be brilliant. Much better than if they rushed out and did it now, before they were ready. We're sorry to keep you waiting. Please be patient, and maybe it'll be worth the wait. Cheers, Neil Robertson banchory management e-mail: neil at banchory.net po box 25074 glasgow g2 6yl scotland http://www.banchory.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jules at xxx.cx Mon Jul 17 15:22:17 2000 From: jules at xxx.cx (Julie) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 10:22:17 -0400 Subject: Sinister: My name's Stuart Ransom Miller, I'm a serial lady killer. Message-ID: <000501bfeffa$6a2a9020$240315ac@udrtg.80laf.cyberbuilding.com> I have just read Laura Llew's post. Oh Laura, why didn't you come see me?? So many extra beds and no roommates...although if in a pinch for a dead girl we could use one of the Lawn Gilandites down the hall. Come back to New York!! All the cool kids are doing it, like Marie-ree and Christiaan "Plastic Cow" Lampinen. Being bad at thinking of times and places, I've decided to organize the New York Sinister picnic around Damon. So here are the details: Date: Damon Time: Damon Location: Damon There will be ants on a log and fluff sandwiches, maybe some watercress too. I've laundered all the red and white checked blankets I own and purchased Pin The Tail On The Donkey at a party store. It's going to be really great. Can't wait to see you all. (Note: There will be a real picnic, and it will still revolve around Damon but there will be a name for the location and an actual day for the date. And ants on a log, still.) I am getting sick of FAKERS in Belle & Sebastian t shirts. The other day walking to school, I saw a boy in a Study at Stow t shirt, and I took my headphones off and said "Hey, I like your shirt". He looked at me like I was crazy. Then yesterday, at Other Music, an employee was wearing a Study at Stow shirt, and Phil "I was the latest list member for a minute" Oh was talking to him. I said "Hey, I like your shirt". He said "I am so embarrassed to be wearing this. They are horrible and boring." I started crying. Then he talked Phil out of buying the Stars ep and I cried harder til I thought my heart would break. Maybe I just need a new approach? If "Hey, I like your shirt" isn't working, should I use "Hey, give me your shirt or you'll never see your lovely dog again"? After all, I don't have a Study at Stow shirt myself. Will Porter, will you draw me a sheep? And will you come and live on my little planet with me? I have two volcanoes and a rose. Marie and I have matching pants. We are hardcore. Love you all. xoxo Julie "It's only pop music, why are you asking me all these questions?!" -Robbie Williams +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Mon Jul 17 16:28:21 2000 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (adventures as an angel) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 11:28:21 EDT Subject: Sinister: would the real andy capps pls stand up... Message-ID: <20000717152821.69633.qmail@hotmail.com> well, me and my three brain cells thought we'd say hello this morning. i would first like to appologize publicly to redgeisha...i went to xmen all dressed up in my new b&s tshirt (the purple ampersand ones are huge btw) and found the right bar for vanity fair and everything...but i was early, 11.30 and couldn't find you, got extremely shy and left... i love my new b&s tshirt, me and the 3 brain cells forgot we ordered it, so boom...we opened my mailbox and there it was. so b&s are busy boys and girls now aren't they...maybe gentle waves will come here and play...isobel on a little promo tour...we won't poison you this time, promise. i think isobel is loverly...i have her picture as my desktop wallpaper at work, and she gets lot's of compliments... funny thing happened at the fringe on saturday night...i went to this excellent fringe festival play called Perfect Strangers, but it had a little surprise for me, nudity...i felt like i was 13 or something. as a flamingly gay manboy, i rarely come into contact with real boobs, and these were in fact real and pendulous. my maturity went out the door, and i don't know why...how embarrassing...that and my little bald man's tummy doing somersaults during the silent ending... well, i hope everyone's picnics go well...i wish we could have them, but with the current policing trend we'd prolly get arrested for loitering...our loverly parks are pretty much open air campgrounds for quite intelligent squeegee kids... ummm...yeah bye. a. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wayne_fortune at xxx.com Mon Jul 17 16:49:53 2000 From: wayne_fortune at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Wayne=20Fortune?=) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 08:49:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: This may be a rant... Message-ID: <20000717154953.29479.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> Hi sinister people, Well, how are you all? I've not posted for ages - not for any real reason, other than laziness. So no action until 2001, lets be honest - it's hardly surprising... I fear that this post might turn into a big rant about how wrong Christianity is, so I'll try and avoid it. I can't... You see, I was playing the bagpipes last night at the local "Civic Week" (don't get me started on that!) parade known as "The Kirkin' of the Laddie". Anyway, we (the general public) were stood outside the war memorial listening to this old, bald minister lecture us about various aspects of life when he burst into some prayer about how "God, we know we are not the people you want us to be, we are not the people we want to be, so forgive us". I almost burst out laughing - I don't think I need to prove myself to anyone, let alone some fictional character designed to strike fear into the hearts of the masses! And all this "not the people we want to be" - what is with that? Fair enough, I'm probably not my ideal picture of myself (I'd like to get on with my parents better), but I won't have some bald guy stand in front of me and tell me to ask for forgiveness! I'm sorry, I hope I've not offended anyone... :) I recently discovered Nick Drake... Oh, I'm in love! Lots of love Ba Ba __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Mon Jul 17 18:57:40 2000 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 18:57:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Expensive bathos Message-ID: <8025691F.0064119E.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> > Nick was spot on when he quoted Stuart's "playing in the band > isn't a job that seven people's lives have to revolve around". The funny thing is, I'd thought I'd made that quote up. I must have an exceedingly good claim to know the mind of Stuart Murdoch after all. There was a wanky thing in the Guardian Guide last Saturday, in which top TV psychologist Oliver James offers some clues as to the mind of Eminem through an analysis of his lyrics. Apparently the 'loose chain of thought' displayed in The Real Slim Shady 'has many parallels with the schizophrenic thought pattern'. Beware rambling posters. Someone wanted to know what a Wooskie was. Actually they wanted to know what a Wooksie was, which might be different. I think someone said 'Wooskie' is some kind of nickname Stu D has for his wife Karn, but I might be wrong. I don't know why people get the 'k' and 's' the wrong way round. It's sometimes interesting when people get lyrics consistently wrong. In The Selfish Gene's appendix, in the course of his exposition of his meme theory, Richard Dawkins points out two examples and tries to account for them . It's "Rule Britannia, Britannia rule the waves" (ie. an exhortation, not the descriptive 'Britannia rules the waves') and it's "We'll tak a cup o'kindness yet / For auld lang syne" not "For the sake of auld lang syne". Perhaps it's not interesting in the case of Winter Wooskie/Wooksie. Residual memory traces of Chewbacca, maybe. In other news, Tom Ewing was a belated convert to Belle & Sebastian and their mimsy voiced lead singer, but now he's kind of changed his mind again. Have a look at his long, thoughtful piece at http://www.freakytrigger.com/belleseb.html and see what you think. I think he misses the mark with a lot of what he says but infuriatingly, I feel unable to articulate why. I like his sideswipe at 'a certain kind of listener [who] is going to like anything with boys and girls and a bit of cheap bathos' though. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From imn_uk at xxx.uk Mon Jul 17 22:28:16 2000 From: imn_uk at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?ian=20nicolson?=) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 22:28:16 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: it takes grace to play the second fiddle well Message-ID: <20000717212816.8215.qmail@web4302.mail.yahoo.com> i came home one night last week in a somewhat less than sober state and considered posting to the list, but thankfully i thought better of it. i've seen drunken postings before and god, can they be painful. it would have been fun to see what nonsense i would have written, mind. couldn't be much worse than this. there's been something of a dribble of picnic reports, rather than the usual tidal wave one might expect. but don't think you're making the rest of us jealous - i had my lunch out on the balcony of my house on saturday afternoon (which counts as a picnic in my book) and i bet i had just as much fun as anyone in sheffield or london... some people were talking about 1950's P!O!P! last week, i noticed. my favourites are the 'golden age of american rock 'n' roll' cds on ace records. i think there's about seven volumes now of u.s. chart hits and more obscure stuff from 1957-62. great for dancing around your room, singing very badly, if you enjoy that kinda thing. personally i prefer to listen to them down the park while re-enacting my favoutire scenes from 'american graffiti'. on my own. the luverly mr. neil said: > I just thought I'd drop you a line to explain the > whole "band taking a break" thing. Firstly, I'm > really surprised that this has caused anything like > a fuss. i think maybe the reason that a fuss has been caused is more to do with things being promised via the jeepster site or whatever and then being put off again and again, on more than one occasion, which is maybe beginning to piss people off a bit. personally i feel that if that's what they feel is best for them, then they should take a break. hopefully it'll do them some good. i'd be the last person to try to impose any kind of protestant work ethic thing on anyone. Magda Boom wrote> > Ian Nicolson, I think you are ace. Brian Phillips wrote> > we use "ace" as a slightly more polite "ass". aah, now i understand... luv and kisses ian n ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Mon Jul 17 23:22:01 2000 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 23:22:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I Saw Sir Full Of Sea Crits Message-ID: <000101bff03d$748667e0$2a5b01d5@default> Hi Picnic-ers, B&S Tour de Jamais I've been working for 25 years now non-stop, most of the time in jobs I don't entirely find satisfaction in, but hey, you have to provide a roof, you know? If the members of Belle and Sebastian have found a way to do exactly what they want to, when they want to, not be beholden to anyone & still make a decent living, all respect to them. (I still feel sad about no gigs this year mind you, but it IS up to them.) Which One's Pink? Sarah brought up Yes, & I won a bet with myself! as I KNEW they would be the next strand in the thread. Rick Wakeman may be a good Lad, eating curries during stage performances of overlong song, but his membership of Yes coincided with the ponciest phase of their existence. Stick to Time And A Word, & The Yes Album, trust me. Fluffy, will it be King Crimson or Emerson, Lake & Palmer next? ELP were much wankier than Yes. Oh, & Starry, what is The Crazy Diamond's address, then? BTW, did I imagine it, or did someone mention the Pink Fairies the other day? The second single release on Stiff was one of theirs. It seems a bit strange to dismiss a band as crap when they've been making music for over 30 years, and have in fact been several different bands during their career. Undoubtedly the "Floyd" have produced several piles of pooh, but have also passed some er, diamonds amongst them. Nothing is ever black or white. Dismissing them entirely is a bit like oh, I dunno, saying that B&S are totally crap just because they released one lightweight ephemeral pop single or something. A Bird In The Hand August's Mo-Jo has a long Incredible String Band article in it, during the course of which they reveal that the 16 year old Kate Bush was a fan & used to vist their commune in Wales. However, they never dared introduce her to Mike Heron because he was such a shag monster. A Bird In The Hand (II) Lixi, maybe your brother is a Chaucer student (Chaunticleer? - Nun's Priest's Tale I think.) Silver & Gold Blake said: "and the new neil young is ace" But sadly its no After the Goldrush, is it? 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbethy at xxx.net Tue Jul 18 01:28:43 2000 From: mbethy at xxx.net (mbethy) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 17:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: the leader of the pack (vroom vroom) Message-ID: <20000718002843.0015430B9@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From DelyM2 at xxx.com Tue Jul 18 04:17:48 2000 From: DelyM2 at xxx.com (DelyM2 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 23:17:48 EDT Subject: Sinister: the Last Bastian Message-ID: <200007180316.EAA24595@missprint.org> no gigs till 2001 works out just fine for me. by that time i should have plenty of bucks to dish out in case they decide not to perform in the US. (oh the bliss of optimism) so i decided just today that i might want to put braces on my top teeth. I figured i better go and do it now while braces are still in style. i'm not completely sure i want to go ahead with it though, because i dont like the idea of tampering with nature. and spaced out teeth are also "in" , no? this is a really curious list. I'm not sure I fully understand it. This whole braces things just makes it all the more confusing. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From katefunky at xxx.com Tue Jul 18 19:47:53 2000 From: katefunky at xxx.com (Kate Funky) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 13:47:53 EST Subject: Sinister: first post nerves Message-ID: <20000718034754.23273.qmail@hotmail.com> After some of the terrific first posts i've been seeing while in the nursery, i've been debating for almost a week whether or not to even post at all. but there are a couple of things i wanted to ask about anyway. First, i wanted to agree about douglas coupland. 'miss wyoming' is so terrific, and it's the first douglas coupland book that i could really easily visualise as a film. (am i the only one who tries to cast the film of a book while i am reading it?) coupland is a terrific author, but he has always reminded me more of radiohead than b&s. i might have to drag the books out again. The talk about picnics has been making me jealous. i would love to be in london or sheffield and rolling about on hills. but i'm in melbourne and it's winter. i'm at my parents house in the country and it's bloody freezing. so all of you northern hemisphere people remember how lucky you are right now... Is there anyone from melbourne on the list? maybe we need out own picnic. mayber when the weather is better (indoor picnic?). I can understand why people want to pretend they're canadian. i know a couple of really cool canadians. well i will post again when i actually think of something interesting to say. bye. kate. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Tue Jul 18 09:08:58 2000 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 04:08:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Expensive bathos In-Reply-To: <8025691F.0064119E.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Sinister, Nick referred us to a piece by Tom Ewing at > http://www.freakytrigger.com/belleseb.html. In case you didn't get quite to the end, but I highly doubt that given the frequency with which he's quoted these days, Nick, not Tom, expensive bathos was for the Eminem psychologist, cheap for us. I could agree with many things that Tom Ewing wrote (about the actual songs) but arrive at a different conclusion. B & S fanbase 'They've less in common with British outsider idols than with indie rock in America, a feedback loop of incestuous bands, intimate fans, and gigs, labels and zines which piggy back on one another constantly to create the energy and fervency of the scene.' 'With Belle And Sebastian, the fans are the music: what made the band famous were their pen-portraits of bruised young romantics, and a lot of their best songs feel like character studies of the people who love them. Its as if, having sold the 1000 copies of their first record, B & S dedicated the rest of their career to writing songs about the buyers out of gratitude.' I don't get the sense that B & S fans are part of some scene. The first quote seems inconsistent in light of what he writes later about B & S being a scene unto themselves. For example, take the "typical" B & S fan and Paula Cullen Booze Explosion, the phenomenon, not the person, then what have you got? In any case, it has no bearing on the music. The second quote suggests that the lyrical concerns from Tigermilk to IYFS shifted dramatically, but that's really inaccurate. In fact, on FYHCYWLAP, SM seems to have moved away from 'pen-portraits', which are good for certain types of characterization, that, incidentally, aim at effects other than bathos, to writing songs that are more personal and immediate. And it is evidence of Stuart's skill as a songwriter that he is able to achieve this transition without 'melodramatic flounce, apathetic self-disgust, or withdrawal into an apalled ironic paralysis', which is supposed to characterize bands like Nirvana & Radiohead. I mean, first person writing is supposed to be more difficult because you're trying to give inside and outside perspectives at the same time. (Here I can sense the expository stucture of my rebuttal - with subtitled sections - breaking down. Must get it all down at once.) A point of comparison between SM and the other SM might be just in the way they handled this transition. Personally, I don't like Rollercoaster Ride because the details seem too glittery and surfacy as opposed to Judy and the Dream of Horses. SM could have written that way on his "personal" songs on this album, which I consider to be The Model and There's Too Much Love. He could have carried diffidence to an extreme the way people say the other SM did with ____. (I won't put in the words cos it would just be on hearsay.) What I meant to write when I started this paragraph was stuff about fanbases and scenes. It was typical of TE, as a music journalist, to write 'everybodys shutting their doors on Belle And Sebastian now, Ive got to think about why they mattered in the first place'. But he's still a better critic than most. (It was nice of Nick to point out the article.) The things he writes about the new album confirm some doubts I've had about some songs. His criticism of I Fought In A War is based on the music, but I get a general sense that something is missing. It's not affecting in the way, say, Love Vigilantes is, or a story called Pale Anna by Heinrich Boll. And soul vocals don't really suit Stuart. It seems like a test of his range, as TE suggests. Tackling "issues" and trying different vocal styles might be a stage of experimentation that results in some mistakes, but, personally, I think the other songs on this album and previous songs make it worth it. His criticism of The Chalet Lines is STRANGE (rape as touching? that could hardly have been the goal). Most of all, I don't think Stuart is too ambitious with the lyrics for The Model. It's not just a mouthful of words, as with some of the Chills' lyrics. (How does he do it? Maybe it's got something to do with text-to-tune alignment - I should pay more attention in intonation class. Maybe it's in knowing how to sketch a narrative. Each episode stands well on its own but reflects on the others. I would really like to know what it's about, but I wouldn't want to ask and to have it told to me. It would have to be discovered.) Part 3 of the article is really great and puts into words what I couldn't - the studio, it's a construction site. Sorry for trying so hard. A stray comment turned into a personal challenge. But I know, the effort is embarrassing. Youn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stugardiner at xxx.com Tue Jul 18 00:53:09 2000 From: stugardiner at xxx.com (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 00:53:09 BST Subject: Sinister: Message from Australia Message-ID: <20000717235309.25360.qmail@hotmail.com> Plea for help! Some of you old-time Sinisterines (a bit like Listerine, only better tasting) may remember when an exceedingly tall bloke used to roam around England, getting drunk at picnics, playing football badly, singing badly and generally getting in the way. Oh, and occasionally posting irrelevant stuff to the list. Well I'm coming back to England in the autumn, and I'm heading to Nottingham Trent Uni for the next 3 years. Except I don't have anywhere to live, and I won't be back from Australia until less than a week before I start. So, in a blatant bit of list abuse, I was wondering if anyone from around there could help me find somwhere (suggestions, listings, any info welcome!)? Just email me on TallGit at beer.com. I'll buy you some alcohol when I get back... So what have I been doing in my year off? Building schools for fishermen; getting stranded without food, water or shelter in the Amazon for the night; waiting for trains to turn up over a day late; walking through thunderstorms and heatwaves; and generally having the time of my life... And now I'm in Australia, where I've spent far too long in Sydney for my own good (but I'm leaving on Thursday, so I'm in a good mood today!). And if JJJ radio is to be believed, some band called Belle and Sebastian have a new single out here next week, only about 2 months late (mind you, this is the radio station who recently played a record by "Glaswegian hip-hop collective Looper"...) See you in October, Big Stu ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csf at xxx.com Tue Jul 18 19:52:01 2000 From: csf at xxx.com (Colin Ferguson) Date: 18 Jul 2000 18:52:01 -0000 Subject: Sinister: none Message-ID: <20000718185201.6654.qmail@mail.claramail.com> Hi everyone! I've been on the list ages, and this is my first post. I've not been waiting until something really important comes up, so don't expect this to be remotely interesting or enlightening. I had my first and so far only B&S dream. It was pretty bizarre to say the least. Basically Stewart M was my goldfish, even though it was silver for some reason, and I somehow managed to kill him. I can't remember if I ate him or just knocked him out of the bowl. I was so upset I was going to kill myself but then I woke up. I've been having a lot of bizarre half-remembered dreams lately. The most bizarre, I can only remember in a sense resembling deja vu: as soon as I try to focus on them in my mind, they disappear. I've started a new job for the summer, and it's pretty bizarre to say the least. I like the job, but most of the people in the office are only about two years older than me, and a lot of them are married and/ or have kids. It makes me feel like a naive little child, basically. I can't even imagine being married or having kids in two years time. I suppose I'm only doing to job for the summer, whereas it's a career to them, which I suppose would make a big difference in their outlook. Nothing to do with anything, but I've had a huge disappointment. After it being strongly recommended to me by everyone, I read Catcher in the Rye and it was a huge let down. It really didn't make me feel anything; I just could not connect with Holden Cauldfield at all. I expected it to be an immensely enlightening and emotionally affecting read. Plus, call me a fascist if you must, but frankly, the prose just downright annoyed me. I think a far superior book on a similar theme is Billy Liar by Keith Waterhouse. It is superb, and was far more affecting than Catcher in the Rye. OK, that's me for today. I shall probably mail this wonderful community again in a few months, or possibly sooner, depending on how I feel. Bye -- Colin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Tue Jul 18 22:02:53 2000 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 22:02:53 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Bleeding Gums Message-ID: marybeth mentioned Douglas Coupland, and has got me banging my head on the wall. I'm *sure* I recently (ie, a few months back) bought a CD with a track which (I think) contained an allusion to Coupland's "Microserfs", but I haven't a clue what it was. Aaargh! This is going to bug me all night, now. What is Coupland's taste in music, anyway? Does anyone know? ISTR he wrote the sleeve notes to the last-but-one St. Etienne album. Someone else said that they're going to have braces fitted on their teeth. This is a baaaad idea, and I'm speaking from personal experience here. When I was younger (yes, much younger than today) I had a brace cemented behind my bottom teeth, and over the 6 months or so it was fitted my gums grew over and completely covered part of it. When I had it removed, the dentist had to cut it into pieces, and try to thread the parts out of their fleshy cocoon. Needless to say, this *hurt*. The first thing the dentist said after taking out the final part was "I should have given you an anaesthetic before doing that, I think." On the other hand, I have no grudge about the type of braces which hold up people's trousers. Unless they snap back and hit me in the mouth. Incidentally, I notice that Adrian Evans recently rejoined the list. Are you the bloke who used to title all his messages with the names of Devon traffic-calming schemes? If not, who was? It definitely used to happen, you know. Bye for today, Will S -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MCFC9 at xxx.com Tue Jul 18 23:52:02 2000 From: MCFC9 at xxx.com (MCFC9 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 18:52:02 EDT Subject: Sinister: Bleeding Gums Message-ID: <5b.8bef701.26a63992@aol.com> As far as braces go, I would recommend them, especially now. They have gotten to be much more efficient than in previous years, even in the last few years. The ones they can use(and do in the US) are almost invisible, and from what I hear quite painless. From personal experience, I'm very glad I got braces, it ended up making me much more attractive. How bout that? Hooray for medical insurance, boo to your national health service. Mike from America +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Kath1216 at xxx.com Wed Jul 19 05:27:41 2000 From: Kath1216 at xxx.com (Kath1216 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:27:41 EDT Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #215 Message-ID: You wrote: << I really like Flin Flon...does anyone else? No one here has heard of them. Like I am shocked. I live in Nebraska for god's sake. >> And yes, I do. And I live in southern New Jersey, so I feel your pain. :) Kathryn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wmh74 at xxx.com Wed Jul 19 08:13:41 2000 From: wmh74 at xxx.com (William Harris) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:13:41 PDT Subject: Sinister: the future of names Message-ID: <20000719071341.77783.qmail@hotmail.com> Comrades. I've been bitten by the insomnia bug and have decided to let my mind wander... Random Thought for the Day: I was recently browsing around on the Internet and keep getting little messages, "Hello wmh74" or "Greetings wmh74." It was a little spooky, but it sparked a thought. Perhaps, in some Orwellian future, we will all be known by our e-mail addresses. This will be OK for people with pretty neat-o names (pixidustlady I'm thinking of you). For far too many of us who were too lazy or uncreative or just plain tired of trying different names, we will be cursed with names like "wmh74." "Oh, hello wmh74. How are you today?" Ugh. I suppose these names will be like the name Smith or Jones (or Harris) now. Thoughts on this lame little hypothesis? Belle and Sebastian content: I haven't yet chimed in on my take of the new album. I suppose I've got nothing new or witty to add... I *like* it. A lot. But I don't love it like the other albums. Yet. There doesn't seem to be a real flow in the sequence of the songs. It's jumpy. Not too fond of Isobel's tunes either. I was wondering about "The Chalet Lines" though. Why do you think Stuart chose to sing the song instead of one of the lasses? I can see why they might be worried Isobel's girlish/sweet/breathless voice might not fit the subject matter (i.e. make it sound too cute), but it might also serve as a shattering judgement... if it was sung in a kind of thin/transparent way, it could imply (tonally) a loss of innocence--a kind of reminder of childhood (of idealisms formed therein) and its new absence from the character's life. Maybe I'm making too much of this and I'm sure you've all had your say on the subject, but what of it? What do you make of Stuart singing the tune? "Women's Realm" and "There's Too Much Love" make me smile. This is a very good thing, of course, esp. since "There's Too Much Stress" might be the title song of my life lately. I'm interested in hearing what people think about the Amphetameanies (sp?). Haven't heard them yet...what they like? That's enough for now. I think I'll go read and try to fall asleep. Smiles all around, Bill/William PS--Laura Llew. re: good reads. Try James Agee's "A Death in the Family." The first twenty pages or so are the most beautiful prose I think I've ever read. I'm not exaggerating. Also John Gardiner's "Grendel." A wonderful re-telling of Beowulf through the monster's eyes. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mikelsen at xxx.nz Wed Jul 19 08:52:41 2000 From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 19:52:41 +1200 Subject: Sinister: God is in my heart and he's tearing at the seams Message-ID: <007001bff156$796f9320$636137d2@computer> Youn J. Noh mentioned The Chills. Thanks. You made my day. ***TELL GOD I'M HERE*** Wayne Fortune (or Ba Ba) mentioned Christianity. It's a pretty difficult one to stick up for sometimes, but I'm going to try. Right. Where do I start? Firstly, his comment about God as "some fictional character designed to strike fear into the hearts of the masses". Actually, you'd be hard pressed to find a culture which doesn't have a some concept of God. Whether what you say above is true or not, you can't blame God on Christians. Next. The Christian church has done loads of terrible, evil things in the past. True. But again, this is *people*, and often people, even with good intentions, get the wrong end of the stick and do terrible terrible things for what they believe in. However, Christians have done lots of good too ... here they feed, clothe and shelter the homeless people in Auckland that no one give a damn about. A Baptsit Minister I know has a whole bunch of prostitutes living with him and his wife and kids because they have nowhere to go at night when they finish work. Look at Mother Theresa ... and the civil rights movement. Look at the beauty in the writings of people like C.S Lewis and Tolkien. Some of you may know that New Zealand was the first country to give women the vote - and this was achieved largely by a group of militant Chrisitan women. For every flag-burning, red-necked abortion clinic blower-upper there are hundreds of good people who are doing all they can to help people make their lives better. Unfortunately, the above mentioned lunatic militants, and the "old bald ministers" that Wayne mentioned happen to be the public face of Christianity for so may people. Which is a tragedy. "We know we are not the people you want us to be, we are not the people we want to be" Actually I couldn't agree more. When I think of all the people I could have helped - all the means things I've said which I shouldn't have - I really am not the person I want to be. And I have never personally met anyone who is. (I'm not saying *no one* is). I guess for me that's the essence of Christianity for me. Knowing that, despite my failings, God loves me. I'm going to shut up now ... or else get myself crucified (pardon the pun) for turning Sinist*r into a theology discussion group. I don't know if I've in any way adequately addresses Wayne's issues, but hopefully he'll realise we're not all as bad as the guy from "The Kirkin' of the Laddie". Wayne Fortune (or Ba Ba) also mentioned Nick Drake. Glad you've discovered him. Enjoy ...... ***B&S CONTENT (minimal)*** So it seems as though everyone else in B&S has "something to do" apart from Stuart M. What *are* you doing, Stu? Please say you're working on a solo album :) Lawrence Mikkelsen http://www.akn.quik.co.nz/mikelsen/aboutme +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From allstate_63 at xxx.com Wed Jul 19 09:10:39 2000 From: allstate_63 at xxx.com (Chris) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 01:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: In Italia Message-ID: <20000719081039.25798.qmail@web611.mail.yahoo.com> Lurker Chris here. Ill be off to Italy for three months and the surrounding. Can anyone help me out with any good gigs that may be happening. Perhaps any BnS picnics? Thanks for any help. Please, email me privatly. Thanks again, Chris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From julesmarkham at xxx.net Wed Jul 19 09:20:29 2000 From: julesmarkham at xxx.net (julesmarkham) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:20:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: absolutly no B&S (sorry) Message-ID: <002e01bff15a$62c9b480$fe16ac3e@tonygeorge> help! did anyone see 'a many splintered thing' on BBC1 last night? there was a gorgeous song at the end of it, a duet between nick cave and Shane mcgowan (gap tooth drunkard from the pogues) does anyone have this song???!!! jules +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james.thorniley at xxx.com Wed Jul 19 12:01:01 2000 From: james.thorniley at xxx.com (James Thorniley) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 12:01:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: girls who are boys who like boys to be girls who do boys like they're girls who do girls like they're boys Message-ID: <39758A6D.1020804@ntlworld.com> Hello everyone :) I suddenly feel nervous, I've done this loads before, but be gentle. I thought I would post since I haven't in a while. I went to the first half of the London picnic, which was lots of fun, so thanks to the people who organised it and stuff, and hi to everyone I met there. I had to go home a bit earlier than I might have liked to go babysitting, eurgh. Someone was talking about people laughing at books while they're on underground trains, which is ironic because the woman opposite me on the tube back was laughing at a book, it was by Bridget Jones. Should that be? She probably looked perfectly sensible compared to me almost sobbing when A Century of Fakers came on my walkman. Ok, I didn't really sob (thank god), but that song always makes me feel sad, which is stupid I know. Guildford recently got it's first Starbucks, which is mildy interesting cos you would have thought a town this big would have had one for a while, but other than that it's a completely boring fact. Right here goes, a crap poem: Ode to Laura Llew (composed out of fear of her wrath) Laura Llew, the alluring lady of the listcrush, whose leaving leaves the list lamenting a loss, lives a life of loveliness in libra*. But whose own loveliness has the lasses lime with longing, for the lads of the list lust for her lushiousness. But such levity lends them to alliterative limericks** that never get finished because they run out of words. God how embarrasing is that. Sorry if you find that offensively crap, dear Laura, but you were demanding poetry (now you know why you shouldn't make careless wishes, you might just get what you ask for). I think I will send it anyway since I might as well give you all something to laugh at me for. The lovely Laura Llew was also looking for book recommendations. I would say the dictionary is a very handy one, particularly when attempting to write alliterative poetry, which we do all the time of course. I seem to have use our Lord's name in vain twice during this post. I won't go into a big theological discussion (hopefully), but I really must say I agree with whoever said he didn't see why you have to be the people God wants you to be. I don't see why you shouldn't be what you want to be, like native Americans (or Aborigines, or African tribes or pagans or hippies) don't believe in having to do what some omnipotent being says, and they're not the ones who are building nuclear weapons and stuff. I'm not saying you shouldn't be Christian or anything, it's you're own choice, so probably none of this is worth saying, so I'll stop now. Just a quite note to say I think Canada is a great place too, even though I've never been there. Fraser off Due South is a bit of a hero of mine. America is cool too though, it's got a nasty stereotype of being cold and capitalist, but you can't judge a country by it's politicians, it's full of cool people who want to be Canadian. Anyway stay happy everyone :) Bye bye x James Thorniley *As I understand, it's alright to use bad latin in poetry. **Yes, I know it's not a limerick but I needed a word for poem that begins with L. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From declan63 at xxx.com Wed Jul 19 12:20:45 2000 From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 07:20:45 -0400 Subject: Sinister: absolutly no B&S (sorry) References: <002e01bff15a$62c9b480$fe16ac3e@tonygeorge> Message-ID: <000d01bff173$622b4840$2a101218@athen1.ga.home.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "julesmarkham" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 4:20 AM Subject: Sinister: absolutly no B&S (sorry) > help! > did anyone see 'a many splintered thing' on BBC1 last night? > there was a gorgeous song at the end of it, a > duet between nick cave and Shane mcgowan > (gap tooth drunkard from the pogues) > does anyone have this song???!!! > jules the only recorded duet i know of is "what a wonderful world" which was a single about 7 or 8 eight years ago. they then trade off and nick sings "rainy night in soho" and shane sings "lucy". if that's the one they played i'll try to get it to you. jay "i guess the carny ain't gonna show" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul.ebblewhite at xxx.uk Wed Jul 19 12:46:19 2000 From: paul.ebblewhite at xxx.uk (Paul Ebblewhite) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 12:46:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: so chaps Message-ID: hello, Last night i rather foolishly tried to mail you fellows. I was very drunk and could not spell sinister, so you didnt get my mail. It was very amusing in hindsight, so i thought I'd send you it again fo humour value (with its spelling mistakes.) -----Original Message----- From: Paul Ebblewhite [mailto:paul.ebblewhite at xxx.uk] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 11:59 PM To: sinster at missprint.org Subject: FW: so chaps so thats it? i apear to e traped. i have spent the lat hour at work, after the pubs have shut. really this is a request could you arrange a lif home to hsyes form uxbridge it urgent. i a m traped. help shit the bed chaps. i might be drunk, but i don know whds hpnin, help me ..................... Anyway, I got home OK, with out the help that seemed so urgent. I'm not a reglar poster, but since I'm on I may as well keep going about a few things. 1- Music: Badly Drawn Boy album is amasing, pissing in the wind is one of the altime great songs, I reckon. 2- Kate Bush: Someone mentioned her the other day. I think the only thing good to have come from kate is the medley, which Alan Partridge did on the live video, piss funny. 3- Work: Why do you spend all your time building through life to end up there but when it happens, you get borred beyond belief? 4- Info since my last post: If anyone is interested, about my day at the races I won on 2 races, the second i was drunk and so bet £40! i won big style to end up up a tenner for the night. good thing was the frere champagne! booze ahoy. It was a works do so it was all free. We all were drunk. My mate threw up. nice. 5- I am no longer trapped. Bye Ebb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Wed Jul 19 13:00:37 2000 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 13:00:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Mud, mud, glorious mud... Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69014A3DB2@park_ex> Ah, Flanders and Swann, hippopotomi etc... PICNICs are GRATE. Hello to all the lovely people i met on Saturday. What was the final score in the football anyway? It's a shame that Magda didn't turn up, I would really have liked to meet her, or did i just miss her? Sitting in the Spread Eagle is also grate, at least it is when surrounded by lovely sinisterines (and ex-members too). Although one should be very careful about how much gin one drinks, mentioning no names ;) Thank you to the kind oxford ladies for hints and tips on oxlife, although I am getting serious jitters about having to camp out in South Park for a couple of weeks. I mean I hate house hunting at the best of times, but under a deadline just makes it even pooier. LAWRENCE wrote possibly the most honest and touching defence of the church i've read in a long time. As a completely non-religious (as opposed to anti-religious) person, I tend not to pay much attention to that kind of thread, but he did put it very well. I'd also noticed that struan was the only one not mentioned on Neil's list of what the band are doing this summer, maybe he's polishing his big black muscle car. Maybe he's cruising round in it, trying to pick up "chicks" outside the pictures. Maybe he's wearing a tight white t-shirt and getting all oily under the "hood" fiddling with his pistons. Oh sorry, I seem to have been possessed by the spirit of Gen Wesley :) Maybe he's going to spend the summer wasting, oh dear, sorry. TALL GIT YAY, for tall gits. For those of you who don't remember Stuart G the first time around, i'd recommend a trawl through the archives, as he is a lovely man, and very tall. LLEW POEM There once was a milkmaid called Laura And no one could ever ignore her She loved to read books and give flirty looks Lets hope that this poem doesn't bore her and i think on that note... xoxo CarsmileSteve Although I do have a horrible feeling that the limerick might be the only poetic form through which i can truly express myself, eek! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david at xxx.uk Wed Jul 19 15:05:33 2000 From: david at xxx.uk (David White) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:05:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Blame it on the weatherman... Message-ID: There's some interesting news at the end of this post if you want to cut to the chase. **Weather** The wonderfully named Kate Funky wrote: >but i'm in melbourne and >it's winter. i'm at my parents house in the country and it's bloody >freezing. so all of you northern hemisphere people remember how lucky you >are right now... Yeah right 'cos the weathers always great over here you know, never rains or blows a gale, oh no, it's positively paradise all year round in good old Britain. Get real girl. Why do you think people emigrate to Australia? (apart from the better standard of living so I'm told) It's cos the weather's always shite over here. Summer lasts about 2 days and then it's winter for the next 363. You Australians don't know how lucky you are!!! **Canadians** As for Canadians being cool, I'm sure there are some but don't forget this is the country that gave us Celine Dione so they sure as hell aren't all cool. **Religion** Religion annoys me. I'm not against religious people but I do wish they wouldn't foist their opinions on those who are not interested (like that Gouranga lot who literally chase you down the street). I always try to put religion into perspective by thinking of all the trouble it causes between different cultures and how different it might be if it were not for religion. And of course the question that is guaranteed to shut up any religious person: "If there is a God, why do people die in plane crashes?" I've never heard anybody justify that one. Lawrence said: >you'd be hard pressed to find a culture which doesn't have a some concept of >God True most cultures have some God thing going on but it's still generally "a fictional character designed to strike fear into the hearts of the masses" is it not? Lawrence also makes some interesting points about the good people have done (Mother Teresa et al) but is it not the case that people do good things sometimes just because they are good people and not necessarily cos they are religious? Why does spouting forth about religion make somebody a better person than say the bloke in the street that buys a Big Issue or puts a pound in a charity box but never goes to church. For every Baptist minister that lets prostitutes stay in his house, there are thousands of non-religious people who do good things but we tend to ignore them and look for the bad bits of our society cos it makes more interesting news headlines. **Jobs** I've been looking for a job recently and have been pissed off by the attitude of some companies towards applicants for graduate positions. Take today for instance I phoned Vodafone having seen their graduate application bit on their website which asked applicants to phone before applying. I phoned them up and they asked what my first degree was in. I did chemistry for my sins so I told her that and she said the only positions for people with a chemistry degree were in finance. I told her that didn't interest me but that I had a postgrad degree in IT and wanted a job in that field. But she insisted they only judged people on their first degree and that I could only apply for finance (although the website told me they were looking for IT people). What is the point of that? If I wanted a job based on my first degree I wouldn't have done a postgrad course. Another major consultancy firm told me they weren't interested in me cos I "didn't meet the criteria for career focus and leadership potential". Now I may not be brilliant but how the f*ck can they deduce this on the strength of a bloody application form? I could appreciate their sentiments if they had bothered to meet me and made the effort to find out my career focus and leadership potential but they didn't. They're all bastards these big corporations and to be honest I'd be quite glad not working for them when they seem to put people into categories based on the little information they get. **Content** I received the following email to www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk: "Screamadelica proudly presents another monthly special featuring DJ Richard Colburn (Belle and Sebastian), Snow Patrol (live), Estel (live) plus special guest DJ David Cleary. Thursday 3rd August @ Temple Bar Music Centre, Dublin 8pm - 2.30am" Hope this is of interest to somebody out there. Later, David david at djwhite47.freeserve.co.uk www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Wed Jul 19 16:27:14 2000 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 11:27:14 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Wa DaDa NaNA Na References: <20000717022045.74438.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <004801bff195$d35d6e40$8f02a7d1@yesic.com> earlier this week someone said: tart action and a shiver ran down my spine...woo... also earlier this week i saw an actual galaxie 500 automobile. and lord was it slick looking. i somehow thought that the band would name themselves after a less ostentatious vehicle, i think stuart's next mobile should be a galaxie 500. it'd make him the talk of glasgow. i was glad to hear that the picnic went well. if anyone sees ben 'germain' stimpson around tell him to clean out his email folder because i can't get through to him. andy th angel mentioned having picnic envy, and so do i i think but it just seems like herding cats getting people all in one place for one thing here in toronto. maybe its my body odour or my grating personality. maybe they all hang out together and talk about what's wrong with me. but really, its more tiring than getting water from a well in a seive. not that i've ever really dealt with wells or anything...sure i came from the suburbs but at least we had water laid on and indoor plumbing. the clientele, who do they think they are? i waited months for anything at all by them to be available to me here, i had mp3s and such and waited and hoped and things...and then what do they release but a shoddy little 4 song ep that only lasts for 13 minutes and one of those 4 songs is a rip off of dear prudence from the white album so really, i mean that's 10 minutes of music for 8 months of anticipation, and none of them are as good as the we could walk together song i got on mp3....sigh.... next thing we know they'll start thinking their really indie and never ever ever tour or even release records except in theory. sad motherfuckers. so yeah! big ups to Lawrence for standing up for jesus and co. i personally don't really do the religeon thing. but with few exceptions christian churches have always been nice to me, and they're quiet and cold on busy hot days. and the people in them frequently lend me tools and things when i'm in a bind. so yeah. word to churches and religeon in general. during exams this year the hare krishnas went by in their robes with their dholak and tambourine and a group of my friends were sitting on the porch of this campus social center and drinking tea and freaking out in our own personal little ways having nervous conversation ...and the interuption that these hare krishna caused was the most welcome thing in the world. not one of us didn't just look at them go by and in the moment of silence think 'i could just play a tambourine and run around and care about a god entity and screw this whole exams thing' which is a bit crass and self-serving...but i think that stands in for larger issues. yeah! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com Wed Jul 19 15:59:40 2000 From: Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com (Paul Rudolph) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:59:40 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Hell Bunker Message-ID: <0056750021178824000002L542*@MHS> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From elenita99 at xxx.com Wed Jul 19 18:02:04 2000 From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita99) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 18:02:04 CEST Subject: Sinister: A picnic and a goodbye Message-ID: Hello fellows listees, Thanks to the ones who came on Saturday for that lovely London picnic. We even had sun, some girls even played football, and we had lots of fun of course...Thanks also to the people who said I was doing fine as picnic-organiser, it was probably a bit of a lie but it was nice :) Well, I am off for long holidays next week and won't have any regular email access until the end of September...So I am going to say goodbye soon for a couple of months. (for those bored in the office or wanting to keep in touch, you can email at elenitafaraway at hotmail.com) (here comes the good part) You are a bunch of lovely people, really. I've met great people here at the picnics and stuff, I've been emailing with some of you and met a lot of nice persons... That's why I will be back on the list as soon as possible, but well I thought I let you know how much I enjoyed those months in here. Take care everyone, enjoy your summer, and just be the lovely people you are Love Elena ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GardeningAtNight at xxx.com Wed Jul 19 17:53:55 2000 From: GardeningAtNight at xxx.com (GardeningAtNight at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 12:53:55 EDT Subject: Sinister: cruising in my little blue sinstr Message-ID: wmh74 who should be proud of his email address asked: << I'm interested in hearing what people think about the Amphetameanies (sp?). Haven't heard them yet...what they like? >> There are a few sound samples on their website (http://www.amphetameanies.co.uk), and after that you can do fun things like try and guess the collective weight of the band to win the new album. I really liked what I heard but unless I win the contest I probably won't hear any more from them seeing that the States, I am in*. I hardly ever post because I have nothing to say (not that it stops anyone else, but their personal lives are so much more interesting), but now I finally had something to say. When I sat down at the computer it went right out of my head. So, I could talk about the new album. Right. I like it. I don't know how I like it in comparison to everything else because new albums are incomparable to old stuff, at least to me. I would say it's my favorite but that's probably because it's brand new. But I do spend a good 5-10 minutes a day dancing around my room to There's Too Much Love. It's good to know I'm not the only one. Beyond the Sunrise reminds me of a Russian coronation song we played this spring in school orchestra (if anyone cares, it's called Boris Gudinov, I know I spelled that wrong). And just like the B&S song, we all hated it at first but it eerily grew on us whether we liked it or not. I got my B&S ampersand (I hate that word, I just call it "and-thingy") shirt yesterday. I thought I was outsmarting the sizing demons by ordering it a size larger than my bus shirt but it fits the funniest of all band shirts I have. Kind of like a potato sack in some places but not in others. I tried on the bus shirt again and it's starting to look better. Wearing white makes me look tan, which is nice I guess considering I'm so pasty. The postal lady who delivered it was excited because she's from Scotland. I got the FLAPPYCLAP mug for my mom and she actually cried out in joy, at least I hope it was joy. She's obsessed with mugs. I love my mom. Oh, speaking of mom. We got our vanity license plate yesterday. She wanted it to say LOOPER because as I said, she's a very cool mom, but that name was already taken. So what did we end up with? SINSTR. I think she's okay with it now but she still thinks it's a bit weird. She felt a little better after we saw a car with one that said NUTTER. So if you live in St. Louis and you see a blue Jetta looking rather sinister, feel free to say hi at a stoplight but please don't honk like a maniac because I'm still paranoid about driving. My license test is next month, wish me luck. My dad and stepmom have been nagging at me to get a summer job. In theory I should, because it would teach me responsibility and they seem to think that if I don't, then I won't be accepted to college (yes, I know that's ridiculous). But the only places that will hire me without a big hassle is McDonald's (sweatshop) and the coffee place across the street which is run by a big scary yelling guy. The only reason for all the hassle is that I'm 1 month under 16, but I feel a guilt trip coming on because I'm not being productive or something. I guess the whole point of complaining about this is the hope that someone sympathetic out there has some ammo (in word form) I can use to shut my dad up about it. He expects perfect grades and lots of extracarricularness, he doesn't know me at all. I'm planning to work next summer anyway.. it's the principle of the situation, or something. Blah. A MOMENT FOR JEN Did you get my letter? Whenever I put stickers on envelopes it confuses the postal animals and they postmark it in about 5 places because they somehow forget what a stamp looks like compared to a Snoopy sticker. Just one question before I go - where could I find that song people were talking about not too long ago, Rhoda? Like so many things, I've heard *of* it but I haven't heard it. But I'd really like to. Love, Samantha * Yes, that really was horrible, I shouldn't be allowed to talk to anyone after a night of no sleep. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sophiesea at xxx.com Wed Jul 19 18:18:21 2000 From: sophiesea at xxx.com (sophie harris) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 17:18:21 GMT Subject: Sinister: not everyone's cup-a-tea...... Message-ID: <20000719171822.25427.qmail@hotmail.com> * after my last post's umlaut-ridden mess, i shall be swift and nonlingery - but felt compelled to post what with all this talk of mother theresa - let us not forget here, that mother t. (as i like to call her), in her 'wisdom' was fiercely anti-contraception / abortion etc. this is not, in my (perhaps naive) opinion A Good Thing. frankly. i meeself am not religious, and tend to find my solace in skyrainsun type things - not so much 'god loves me' as 'there is love at all'....but lots of good food (god fodder - aargh) for thought, ta lawrence & david... and steven (herding cats! tee hee) - yes, churches on hot days - 'cept i always feel like fraud, and wish i could light a candle.... sometimes the world makes more sense when yer paddling in the sea eating a minimilk... happy camping xs (hmm content - i've been humming woman's realm all day on and off - like when you get recurring hiccups / sneezes, and you think they've gone away, but they creep back up - keep getting little waves of 'just a minute close your eyes...' ... 'fraid that's not much cop, but this was only sposed to be a word about mrs theresa...;) ) * ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jules at xxx.cx Wed Jul 19 22:33:27 2000 From: jules at xxx.cx (Julie) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 17:33:27 -0400 Subject: Sinister: New York City Picnicky Message-ID: <000301bff1c8$fd149140$240315ac@udrtg.80laf.cyberbuilding.com> My dear dear listees, After much debate, there is a date for the NYC picnic. This date is SEPTEMBER 9TH. Why am I telling you this so far ahead of time? Because I expect you all out in full force! Make your travel plans, you're all coming to New York the weekend of September 9th! Come for the picnic, stay for... MY BIRTHDAY! I am turning the big two-one on September 10th. Feel free to bring presents, money, candy, and especially alcohol to celebrate. ;o) The picnic is going to be in Central Park, probably near the duck pond. Obviously, as the time draws nearer I will have more details of where, when, and what there will be to do. I'm thinking of Pin The Tail On Struan...can someone fetch Struan for me? Or at least a nice picture of his ass? There will be no gang rape, sorry. Although I heard from a wee birdie that pop bands can be led out of Central Park in chain gangs if they are caught smoking marijuana there. You can aim for that. Damon will be there. xoxo Julie "It's only pop music, why are you asking me all these questions?!" -Robbie Williams +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ourpeppermintscene at xxx.com Thu Jul 20 00:14:25 2000 From: ourpeppermintscene at xxx.com (keith mclachlan) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 16:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: party people Message-ID: <20000719231425.8211.qmail@web2301.mail.yahoo.com> i read the freaky trigger bit, it is more of the whole music as an empirical science type of writing, quantifying his own opinions to support a subjective conclusion or something. it is incredibly arrogant to assume he has the facts and he needs to set the record straight for anyone who might think that belle and sebastain had more than 1 or 2 tunes in them. ugh. i am not surprised that the clientele are bashing belle and sebastian, likely they do not want the burden of the belle and sebastian mob. sure i love belle and sebastian and the fans are mostly lovely people but most articles about the band can not escape a mention of the fans, the sad fans, the weepy pathetic boys and the rest of the lot. maybe the clientele would like to be judged on their music, but then when has a band ever achieved thatin particularly with the british press. truth is that the clientele are far more twee than b&s to my ears, and to those same ears i don't understand any comparisons between the two bands so who knows why i am relating my feelings about them. does this binobo person choose this name because in relation to the rest of his body are his testicles massive? the new edwin moses lp is a party on plastic in an incredibly lovely package, siesta always has the most stylish digipacks but this one is just exquisite and the music while entirely composed of cover versions(masterfully executed plan there) is just sensational, should be since all of the songs they chose are classic slices of soul apparently done by edwin moses the soul singer not the high hurdler. if you are too lazy to search out the originals(like myself) pick up this tribute record instead, just gorgeous! only 5 days until the fairways live:) haven't seen them since the seo hui popfest, of course everyone should buy their album too. oh but forget bright eyes, i have been reading the list for a bit and a few people have talked up his brilliance, i imagine these are 15 and 16 year old girls, he cries in most of his songs probably distraught because his aunt crocheted him a teal afghan instead of a mauve tea cozy. little conner is good for a laugh though because anyone that serious surely can't be taken even the slightest bit seriously. keith m __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mouche75 at xxx.com Thu Jul 20 00:27:40 2000 From: Mouche75 at xxx.com (Mouche75 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 19:27:40 EDT Subject: Sinister: Sheffield Message-ID: <54.6d6ec0a.26a7936c@aol.com> hey listerinos, Just a brief note- did anyone go to the Sheffield picnic? I was keen to hear what it was like. Did funky stuff happen? Did it rain? Did anyone bring hard boiled eggs or hot dogs in a flask or anything (I learned that tip from Take A Break)? And did anyone go to the bakers' I recommended? I bet you didn't! mouche +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From low_fi25 at xxx.com Thu Jul 20 02:11:02 2000 From: low_fi25 at xxx.com (Jacob Laurent) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 01:11:02 GMT Subject: Sinister: absolutly no B&S (sorry) Message-ID: <20000720011102.7541.qmail@hotmail.com> >a duet between nick cave and Shane mcgowan >(gap tooth drunkard from the pogues) >does anyone have this song???!!! >jules no, but y'know the other day i heard a duet between nick cave and kylie-locomotion-minogue! what is nick *up* to?!? jacob ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From declan63 at xxx.com Thu Jul 20 02:22:47 2000 From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:22:47 -0400 Subject: Sinister: absolutly no B&S (sorry) References: <20000720011102.7541.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <001401bff1e9$034cc4e0$2a101218@athen1.ga.home.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Laurent" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 9:11 PM Subject: Re: Sinister: absolutly no B&S (sorry) > >a duet between nick cave and Shane mcgowan > >(gap tooth drunkard from the pogues) > >does anyone have this song???!!! > >jules > > no, but y'know the other day i heard a duet > between nick cave and kylie-locomotion-minogue! > > what is nick *up* to?!? that would probably be "where the wild roses grow" from "murder ballads" in 1995...unless he's done it again! jay, but my name is eliza day "i don't want to change your mind, i don't want to think about your mind" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Thu Jul 20 06:05:54 2000 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 01:05:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: party people In-Reply-To: <20000719231425.8211.qmail@web2301.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Lawrence didn't seem to mind that what I had to say about the Chills wasn't very complimentary. Keith, by writing, brought up 'our peppermint scene'. That's one of my favorite tracks on Kinky Cinema, too. Stuart's solo project should be a collaboration with John McKeown! It could be funny, but each should sing in his own style. Keith also wrote: > i read the freaky trigger bit, it is more of the whole > music as an empirical science type of writing ... > most articles about the band can not > escape a mention of the fans, the sad fans, the weepy > pathetic boys and the rest of the lot. Yeah, that was the part of the article that I found most objectionable, Knowing about scenes and such is not just a rock/pop historian's expert information; it interferes. And what we say, we're saying to ourselves, right? But I thought the parts of the article on the songs were well written and reflected a judgment that I could trust. There's a film critic for the LA Times, Kevin Thomas, who usually reviews films that I want to see and with whose judgments I agree. They might have figured it all out in marketing (Kenneth Turan for old rich people), but it's nice to think that it's a matter of personal taste. Tom Ewing reviewed Smog, something I don't have, but I thought he really got it right when he said that the songs are affecting because they are unassuming. On the plane back to Ohio, I sat next to a girl with red hair who looked like she should be callled Caddy. She had a cold and kept on pushing the button for the flight attendant to ask for glasses of juice and tissue. When they came to collect trash, she had the used pieces of tissue on the table for the empty seat between us, and there was a moment of hesitation before the flight attendant pushed forward the bag for her to pick them up and throw them away. I remember when we first sat down, she asked "Having fun?" (what a nice neutral line!), and though I usually hate starting conversations right from the start cos then there's the pressure to keep it up for the entire flight, I found myself warming to her. We actually didn't talk much, but when we were about to land in Texas for the stopover, she asked me, "Do you think God wants to have a personal relationship with you?". I wanted to laugh. That was rude and not how I wanted to feel about the situation. I couldn't find an answer, so I just agreed to her suggestion that I hadn't thought about it. And maybe I hadn't in the way that she meant. Yours, Youn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LunaLilly at xxx.com Thu Jul 20 14:38:14 2000 From: LunaLilly at xxx.com (LunaLilly at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:38:14 EDT Subject: Sinister: isn't it the same mistake Message-ID: good morning. I am more than tired as I peel my eyes open a bit farther to read my emails. I am exhausted still. It so sad when a night of sleep proves to be anything but refreshing. Grrrr. I have to work now. So that's always fun. Two things first....religion debate....I shall not inflict my beliefs on the bible or God or what have you.......but I will say that I think most religions has lead a lot of people away from religion by it hypocrisy and it's crude lack of morals. I am a christian....but I am not a member of any of the big massive religions who set about to gain more money and exploit or who work hand in hand with he government and support wars and so on. And second...someone named Keith said - "oh but forget bright eyes"....and that all of us who are speaking highly of them are 15 and 16. I can say that being directly in the town Connor dwells in and knowing who turns out for his shows....that you are right. Yes, the majority of fans these days are 16 year old girls (I am not....but I have been listening to them since I was 16 and I know how these girls feel).....and that all they want ti someone besides N'Sync to worship, someone who actually has emotion. It's sort of irritating at the shows and such. But I am glad they have chosen this path. While they might not understand his songs or what have you....they will. But there are still those of us who are fans of Bright Eyes, that are over adolescence and who actually like bright eyes...maybe it's a comfort to know they came from the street next yours or somthing....but still. So Connor might whine.....but he is good and he can whine away. So Belle and Sebastian....I too like Steven am jealous of your picnics. It's no fair at all. But I probably wouldn't end up showing if there was one here. sob sob. And I had the highest of hopes of them playing in England while I was there in September. But now all my hopes are dashed to bits. I have my first mosquito bites. Ok....too work I go. I apologize for my opinions and for being contrary. Have a sweet day. Olivia +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 50158120 at xxx.hk Thu Jul 20 16:25:23 2000 From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 23:25:23 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Hongkong Concert/Stereo Total Message-ID: <964106723.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk> Hi All, This is Toby C from Hong Kong. Life is funny when u are willing to be crazy. After a "Uplifting House" party, my friend brought me to a place, a new age workshop. This place open at weekend for a woman's mates to drinking and talking. We play different kinda Bongo-like hand drum that she bought from Thailand. What a nite. Magda: >Yes, sadly after I wrote my last post I was reminded I was actually >begging for Graham Coxon clones. I only find Hip Hop amusing, I cant >really listen to it. To me, the idea me listening to someone from the Cool.... i am begging for a Donna-elastica clone.. I will go to see Primal Scream at HK... HK sinister pls tell me if u go also. lately i bought Stereo Total's monokini... it is not so great... but okay. Toby twee-twee-twee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 50158120 at xxx.hk Thu Jul 20 16:39:22 2000 From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 23:39:22 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Hongkong Concert/Stereo Total Message-ID: <964107562.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk> Hi All, This is Toby C from Hong Kong. Life is funny when u are willing to be crazy. After a "Uplifting House" party, my friend brought me to a place, a new age workshop. This place open at weekend for a woman's mates to drinking and talking. We play different kinda Bongo-like hand drum that she bought from Thailand. What a nite. Magda: >Yes, sadly after I wrote my last post I was reminded I was actually >begging for Graham Coxon clones. I only find Hip Hop amusing, I cant >really listen to it. To me, the idea me listening to someone from the Cool.... i am begging for a Donna-elastica clone.. I will go to see Primal Scream at HK... HK sinister pls tell me if u go also. lately i bought Stereo Total's monokini... it is not so great... but okay. Toby twee-twee-twee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 50158120 at xxx.hk Thu Jul 20 16:39:26 2000 From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 23:39:26 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Hongkong Concert/Stereo Total Message-ID: <964107566.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk> Hi All, This is Toby C from Hong Kong. Life is funny when u are willing to be crazy. After a "Uplifting House" party, my friend brought me to a place, a new age workshop. This place open at weekend for a woman's mates to drinking and talking. We play different kinda Bongo-like hand drum that she bought from Thailand. What a nite. Magda: >Yes, sadly after I wrote my last post I was reminded I was actually >begging for Graham Coxon clones. I only find Hip Hop amusing, I cant >really listen to it. To me, the idea me listening to someone from the Cool.... i am begging for a Donna-elastica clone.. I will go to see Primal Scream at HK... HK sinister pls tell me if u go also. lately i bought Stereo Total's monokini... it is not so great... but okay. Toby twee-twee-twee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 50158120 at xxx.hk Thu Jul 20 16:40:29 2000 From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 23:40:29 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Hongkong Concert/Stereo Total Message-ID: <964107629.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk> Hi All, This is Toby C from Hong Kong. Life is funny when u are willing to be crazy. After a "Uplifting House" party, my friend brought me to a place, a new age workshop. This place open at weekend for a woman's mates to drinking and talking. We play different kinda Bongo-like hand drum that she bought from Thailand. What a nite. Magda: >Yes, sadly after I wrote my last post I was reminded I was actually >begging for Graham Coxon clones. I only find Hip Hop amusing, I cant >really listen to it. To me, the idea me listening to someone from the Cool.... i am begging for a Donna-elastica clone.. I will go to see Primal Scream at HK... HK sinister pls tell me if u go also. lately i bought Stereo Total's monokini... it is not so great... but okay. Toby twee-twee-twee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 50158120 at xxx.hk Thu Jul 20 16:39:41 2000 From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 23:39:41 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Hongkong Concert/Stereo Total Message-ID: <964107581.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk> Hi All, This is Toby C from Hong Kong. Life is funny when u are willing to be crazy. After a "Uplifting House" party, my friend brought me to a place, a new age workshop. This place open at weekend for a woman's mates to drinking and talking. We play different kinda Bongo-like hand drum that she bought from Thailand. What a nite. Magda: >Yes, sadly after I wrote my last post I was reminded I was actually >begging for Graham Coxon clones. I only find Hip Hop amusing, I cant >really listen to it. To me, the idea me listening to someone from the Cool.... i am begging for a Donna-elastica clone.. I will go to see Primal Scream at HK... HK sinister pls tell me if u go also. lately i bought Stereo Total's monokini... it is not so great... but okay. Toby twee-twee-twee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 50158120 at xxx.hk Thu Jul 20 16:39:42 2000 From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 23:39:42 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Hongkong Concert/Stereo Total Message-ID: <964107582.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk> Hi All, This is Toby C from Hong Kong. Life is funny when u are willing to be crazy. After a "Uplifting House" party, my friend brought me to a place, a new age workshop. This place open at weekend for a woman's mates to drinking and talking. We play different kinda Bongo-like hand drum that she bought from Thailand. What a nite. Magda: >Yes, sadly after I wrote my last post I was reminded I was actually >begging for Graham Coxon clones. I only find Hip Hop amusing, I cant >really listen to it. To me, the idea me listening to someone from the Cool.... i am begging for a Donna-elastica clone.. I will go to see Primal Scream at HK... HK sinister pls tell me if u go also. lately i bought Stereo Total's monokini... it is not so great... but okay. Toby twee-twee-twee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 50158120 at xxx.hk Thu Jul 20 16:39:31 2000 From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 23:39:31 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Hongkong Concert/Stereo Total Message-ID: <964107571.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk> Hi All, This is Toby C from Hong Kong. Life is funny when u are willing to be crazy. After a "Uplifting House" party, my friend brought me to a place, a new age workshop. This place open at weekend for a woman's mates to drinking and talking. We play different kinda Bongo-like hand drum that she bought from Thailand. What a nite. Magda: >Yes, sadly after I wrote my last post I was reminded I was actually >begging for Graham Coxon clones. I only find Hip Hop amusing, I cant >really listen to it. To me, the idea me listening to someone from the Cool.... i am begging for a Donna-elastica clone.. I will go to see Primal Scream at HK... HK sinister pls tell me if u go also. lately i bought Stereo Total's monokini... it is not so great... but okay. Toby twee-twee-twee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ISawUfall at xxx.com Thu Jul 20 20:22:49 2000 From: ISawUfall at xxx.com (ISawUfall at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:22:49 EDT Subject: Sinister: TRAVIS show tonight in Los Angeles anyone? (NO BS content) Message-ID: <96.74b1804.26a8ab89@aol.com> HELLO., anyone going to the show.....any extra tickets? i am going with my girlfriend and wouldnt mind meeting a sinister face for once.... well, it will be the 2nd time i guess write back dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dewar at xxx.uk Thu Jul 20 20:41:29 2000 From: dewar at xxx.uk (Dewar) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 20:41:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Richard's School Dance Message-ID: <00a701bff282$80e19180$5c1e883e@oemcomputer> Hello people, I actually promised this story ages ago so you've all probably forgotton. Anyway, I am from Perth, where I believe Richard Colburn is from - at least during his school days. My friend tells me of a lovely story of a christmas school dance when Richard was dancing with my friend's big sister. Upon returning to the beautifully adorned tables with tinsel and candles and holly for a well-earned rest, richard proceeded to belch out ALL of the candles on his table, in front of all the shocked little girlies, laughing to himself. It made me laugh anyway... Rafe! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kpc98c at xxx.UK Thu Jul 20 21:01:00 2000 From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 21:01:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My wonderful days in Dover Message-ID: <200007201958.UAA20957@missprint.org> Hello sinistees, Happy and unhappy notes today, I guess if I start with the booes then I can end with the yays, which will probably make me feel happier... Ken is sad :-( I've had a bloody stupid day at work, I am doing this work placement thing at the moment, but I have absolutely no work given to me to do because of a lot of reasons. I was just talking about it on a chatroom thing at work to a few friends of mine, but the recruitments person read it and now I have to meet her tomorrow to "sort things out". This is stupid, they're just going to blame me, and ask me why I don't go and tell them that I have no work to do. :-( I have been so depressed after that, I don't know why, maybe it's because I might get the sack, which I probably won't. I don't even care anymore. I'm going to talk about something happy now. The sinister london picnic was GRATE, I haven't had such a good time for a long while, nice to meet all of you who went (I'm not listing names because I'm bound to miss a few out on top of my head because my memory was severely affected by the wine and beer consumed, the beer of which I now owes a couple of people a pint of! Please do claim it back in the next sinister outing or I will feel like a scum). You were all absolutely lovely and for once, I felt wanted. I remembered the nice pub, I remembered the jolly walk up the hill, and eating sandwiches and crisps and "mutant" party rings, I remember buying wine, I drinking wine, I remember playing football, and showing off my extreme accuracy of passing, to the opposition. I remember the Spread Eagle, and the sitting on chairs, and the being sat on on chairs :-) I even made it home, despite having to take the evil rail replacement buses. I best not slag off busses too much tho or Sturan will hate me. But Sturan probably hates me anyway, because the other day I saw a graffiti on an underground train, it was probably a fast graffiti as it was really horrible handwriting. It had the word "Stu M" pointed with an arrow to one of the stations on the map. On closer examination, the t was actually a badly written C! I have inadvertently thought Stu M was Scum! Oops, AND Sturan does boxing, I'm doomed! Somehow I feel much happier now after this post! :-) Sinister rules the school! Curries and redbulls!!! Ken ====================================================================== Car coat, she has a quilted jacket with a hood if it rains Big pockets for the pharmaceuticals she takes to fix her brain. - Belle & Sebastian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csf at xxx.com Thu Jul 20 18:50:41 2000 From: csf at xxx.com (Colin Ferguson) Date: 20 Jul 2000 17:50:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Religion Message-ID: <20000720175041.252.qmail@mail.claramail.com> I have quite an ambililent atitude towards religion. I suppose i could class myself as a christian, but i don't know anymore. Reading the Bible has actually weakened my faith considerably. I just tend to lose interest in a religion where a kind and loving God is stirring up armies to beat babies to death and rape peoples wives (read Isaiah Ch 13, if you're interested). Other parts of the Bible condones treating women as spoils of war, and punishing (ie. stoning to death) children for the actions of their parents. When at school, our RE teacher always told us that God has given us a consience. Well, my consience tells me that rape and child murder are very wrong. Christian people have done some great things, but I don't think that the almost complete destruction of the indiginous people of South America can ever fall into this cateragory. I love old catherdrals sometimes, but they also sicken me. Cobh Cathedral near Cork in Ireland is a fantastic piece of archetecture, and they will proudly tell you that 16 tonees of gold were used in it's construction. I felt physically ill when I found out that it was built in the middle of the potato famine where the people in the surrounding area were starving to death. The attitude of the Catholic Church in Africa also facinates me. Aids is rampant, and overpopualtion will soon be a great problem yet it refuses to accept the use of contraception. I just cannot understand opposition of contraception at all. The Church is encouraging humiliating virginity tests to be introduced for brides, as a way or preventing Aods! Some parts of the Bible seem to make sense, and that what scares me: it would be horrible if it was all true. All religions have their dark side, even the 'eastern' ones (all major religions are actually eastern). Personally, I think the Hindu caste system is utterly abhorrent. OK, that my little rant over with for the day. I was not trying to critisise anyone's beliefs, or to anster anyone's question, just to throw in my opinion, adn maybe receive a little advice. Bye -- Colin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cjromeu at xxx.pt Thu Jul 20 20:43:22 2000 From: cjromeu at xxx.pt (Tiago Romeu) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 21:43:22 +0200 Subject: Sinister: shane mcgowan and nick cave In-Reply-To: <200007201537.QAA13980@missprint.org> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000720214322.0089d100@mail.eunet.pt> The song sung by Nick Cave and Shane McGowan is a cover of Louis Armstrong's "What a Wonderful World". It was released in 1992 but only in 7" and 12" copies. Mute Records Catalog or Elektra, in the US. It's a very fine song, but I've only heard it a few times, unfortunately. greetings tiago ps: the other one with kylie minogue is also fabulous. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From FakingUpARampage at xxx.com Thu Jul 20 22:35:27 2000 From: FakingUpARampage at xxx.com (FakingUpARampage at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 17:35:27 EDT Subject: Sinister: parting is such sweet sorrow Message-ID: <68.5a39e55.26a8ca9f@aol.com> hi everyone. i feel like i just got here again, and now i have to be leaving. i'm going to miss you all. very much. this has become my second family, and i feel horrible being torn away from it. hopefully, one day i'll resubscribe and see all the shinning faces i've grown to love. until then.. Jes +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DelyM2 at xxx.com Fri Jul 21 00:27:54 2000 From: DelyM2 at xxx.com (DelyM2 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 19:27:54 EDT Subject: Sinister: curiouser and curiouser Message-ID: <200007202326.AAA25262@missprint.org> I recently bought the newest arab strap recording, mad for sadness. IM a bit more pleased with this one than with elephant shoe. I dont know, elephant shoe just didnt do it for me. It reminded me of heroine and wearing a dirt-soiled tank top with a big hole in it, therefore having to wear another tank top under neath so no one can see your crusty skin disease...the later was logical, but i dont know where i was going with that heroine thing. The last person I dated was not unlike a strict lipped catholic nun..of course nuns dont cover themselves in pigs blood, but thats besides the point. anyway i would have been cruelly scolded for listening to arab strap. its a crazy world. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From CaMo81 at xxx.com Fri Jul 21 02:44:27 2000 From: CaMo81 at xxx.com (CaMo81 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 21:44:27 EDT Subject: Sinister: My First Post Message-ID: <1e.8446c21.26a904fb@aol.com> Hello friends, This is my first post and im nervous to say the least. It's funny, I've been wanting to post for a while and now that I can, i have nothing to say. Anyway, I've met a bunch of you on #sinister and its been a blast. I just recently got into B&S and am very glad i did. See you all around! Derek P.S.-One suggestion. Easy on the acronyms. It took me 3 hours to figure out what FISHYCLAP and TWATTYBUS were. =) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daftpunk at xxx.au Fri Jul 21 06:20:30 2000 From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 13:20:30 +0800 (WST) Subject: Sinister: duets! Message-ID: We listees here in Australia just got "Legal Man" so thought'd I'd say a few words about it:) It's a great if very un-B&S song a real northern soul stomper with sixties girl-group type vocals-yummy! "Winter wooskie" which I had alread heard before on various live stuff they've done is beautiful too. Dig the cover but why is it different from the rest of the EP/album art? vid is apparently being shown on "Rage" so will haveta check it out and report back:) Since the question about the duet between Nick Cave and Shane McGowan ("what a wonderful world") was brought up, my mind has been set to think of the really great duets of recent times. All the people Nick sang with are great of course (the Peej, Kylie), the Drugstore/Thom Yorke one was nice, and when the Tindersticks collaborated with the always lovely Isabella Rossellini on "Marriage Made In Heaven"- the results were fantastic! but can anyone think of other really wonderful duets? Of course, REM have done a few lovely ones (with Patti Smith, Nat Merchant) but the one that sticks in my mind is the one he did with the enigmatic but great Vic Chestnutt for the soundtrack to "End of Violence"-"Injured Bird" SWOON! What a gorgeous heartbreaking song that was. I used to have it on tape but I stupidly and foolishly taped over it. Does anyone have this song and wouldn't mind taping it for me???:) I had also foolishly taped over the wonderful cover that Pavement did of "Killing Moon" and if anyone had this, I would be so grateful to 'em:) Just saw "X-Men" recently and was struck by the coincidence between the mutants and us listees. We're misunderstood frequently, have a surrogate family right here in our e-community and well I for one have always wished for telepathy/telekinesis, though not everyone might agree with me on this! by the way, go see the movie-it's super cool and despite the negative advance buzz is really the best superhero adaptation ever (eat that Batman and haha! DC) and captures the complexity and angst of the excellent comic quite superbly. It's this year's "Matrix" and it's special effects are freakin' cool and must be proud of Aussie Hugh Jackman for a great portrayal of Wolverine, a character I thought would be impossible to play credibly (but which he does very well actually) ANyhoo, am wittering on a bit, must dash (wonder if I've started a thread with this duets thing?) and if anyone has those aforementioned songs, I'd be so grateful to 'em. ok seeya folks Kin Woo "What's the deal? Take a pill!"- Cordelia Chase +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Fri Jul 21 07:52:23 2000 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 02:52:23 EDT Subject: Sinister: I guess I just wasn't made for these times... Message-ID: <6c.158062b.26a94d27@aol.com> Bon soir, Arrrrggggg...for the past week my mind hasn't been at ease for more than 5 minutes and I think I'm slowly driving myself insane! My band goes back into the studio next Monday through Thurs to record a 6 or 7 song EP, and since its still in a late stage of completion with one weekend left, the stress is crippling me. We recorded a 5 song EP in October, but I had little if any expectations for that album, so when it turned out really well I was simply overjoyed. For this recording, we're trying to really push ourselves to make the most of each and every note on the album and everyone is slowly realizing that we're just not having as much fun writing these songs as before. Perhaps one could blame it on the steady diet of Pet Sounds and Ok Computer we've been digesting for the past year or so, but listening to great works of art and then comparing them to your own measely attempts at greatness is just insanity, but its what we're doing. We're so hyper-analytical of ourselves its a miracle any of these songs were written to begin with. I'm just so terrified of making the same record twice that I'm trying to push each and every button on this recording until its entirely different than its predecessor, which I know doesn't give the song its proper room to breathe every now and again. During the entire writing/recording process of October, I was really into religion at that time so I just put the entire thing in God's hands every night and miraculously things worked out beyond all hopes and dreams. Now, the cynic has crawled back to the forefront of me, and he has promptly sweeped the room of any traces of beliefs in Greater Beings (tm); now, I don't have that one guiding light that comforts me everytime a jam session goes awry or the clarinet line doesn't quite gel with the guitar. As a result, I'm totally running myself into the ground trying to be the next Brian Wilson, or at least trying to think of new ways to expand our sound, and I'm not sure its to the benefit of the songs. Any advice on matters such as these would be extremely appreciated right about now because not too many people in this town are artistic or neurotic, much less both. I'm sure everyone who cares about their art at one time or another says to himself "What are you trying to say? Do you even have anything to say? Why are you doing this? Is this really the best you can do?" and so on and so forth, and its extremely troubling. I guess its these internal debates that keep us pushing for the next hurdle with the intent of clearing it, and as Marx says "as each person advances his or her art, likewise the human race evolves." I'm sorry this had no B&S content. Hmmm...well, in August a band called Camera Obscura is playing Washington, DC. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Struan once play in a band called Camera Obscura or am I mixing things up? Love and Hot Freaks... Steve C. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Which Paul?" 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Fri Jul 21 17:01:22 2000 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Wilson) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 17:01:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the days are long where I come from Message-ID: "Ello little old ladies" Wilson Philips? Ne moi pas. I was in a very unsuccessful metal bashing industrial outfit back in the mid 80s (weren't we all) who seem to have been more influential than I thought judging by the new Strongbow cider ad. In fact has anyone else noticed the increasing number of TV ads that pastiche bands that the company either can't afford or who won't do ads? I only mention it because the soundtrack of the new Kodak ad sounds a bit like a popular beat combo we all know and love. I bought the Flaming Lips CD (Soft Bulletin) last week without hearing it first - after all everyone on the list says how good they are and my favourite band like them so how wrong could I go? Well fair to middling wrong. They're OK but the words are far too clever monkey for my taste and the tunes are a bit ho hum. According to their web site they do "stuff" live so perhaps someone who's seen them will tell me different but they just sound like early XTC to me - much prefer the miserably magnificent Mercury Rev. The religion thing is a bit odd really. Everyone who's posted on it either thinks its all bad or all good. To me that's the problem. Religion makes you think in black and white. When people do bad things the religious tell us its down to free will. But how can you have free will under an omnipotent god? Maybe the problem is that some people want to ascribe so much to a god that they end up creating a world view which is the same as if there were no god. What omnipotent, omniscient beings are best at creating is contradictions. I'm not sure that makes any sense now but I was on the train to work and got distracted by a fox. I hope the picnics went well and the lettuce wasn't too damp. I almost got on the train to Sheffield but I had a bad back, no money left and it was raining so I had peanut butter sarnies in front of a nice warm stereo instead. To make up for it I'm off to Scarborough tomorrow to look at second hand books, paddle in the sea and do other twee stuff.* So if you see someone there in a daft hat and a B&S t-shirt buy him a 99 and say hello. *I'll get my self in a Gentle Waves song if it's the last thing I do.** **A Day in the Life of Mart's Shoes? Martin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pixidustlady at xxx.uk Fri Jul 21 18:11:41 2000 From: pixidustlady at xxx.uk (the original pixidustlady) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 18:11:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: organised religion Message-ID: <000f01bff336$d7193440$1be086d4@pixidustlady> hey folks, been reading with interest the posts about religion, and a quote sprang to mind, although i can't remember at all who said it: "It was Christianity which first painted the devil on the world's wall. Belief in the cure which it offered has now been shaken to its deepest roots, but belief in the sickness that it taught and propogated has continued to exist." i mean no offence to any believers who subscribe to the list, i am merely putting forward some thoughts for discussion. I think it's an interesting idea though. i remember seeing a documentary on telly about Christian missionaries who went to egypt. The egpytians believed that the world was created when one of their gods masturbated, and thus their religious art was full of phallic symbols and graphic detail. To them there was nothing wrong with this. but to the missionaries this was utterly outrageous. they proceeded to deface all the egyptians religious art, and convert them to christianity. then we can look a bit closer to home, and see how christianity hijacked many of the pagan festivals and changed them to suit their own agenda, wiping out paganism almost entirely. this brings to mind another quote, but this time i know who its by: "The Christian resolution to find the world bad and ugly has made the world ugly and bad." FRIEDRICH NIETZSCHE i'm not going to go on at length about philosophy and religion, mainly because i have very little knowledge beyond that quote and what i think of it. but the idea of western religions concentrating on saying you mustn't do this and that, and eastern religions being more philosophical and concentrating on contemplation/aspiring to something higher is very interesting, i think anyway. i could probably say a lot more about this, cos i've been thinking about faith a lot recently, my own etc. but before i share that with everyone i think i should sort it out for myself in my head. bye karen xxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From freezebum at xxx.com Fri Jul 21 18:25:47 2000 From: freezebum at xxx.com (yellow bananas) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 17:25:47 GMT Subject: Sinister: looks like a russian Message-ID: hello fellow minions. 1. i got my flapwap t-shirt in the mail this week, along with the set of 3 badges. when i checked the merchandise webpage, the badges were sold out. so i felt really lucky. i was wearing the shirt when i had my student id card done. it unfortunately did not save me from the "i look bad in my student id" phenomenon. someone commented that the shirt looked sinister. but i think she meant the girls. 2. it's been raining like mad in perth. but i quite like it. i'm mad. do you need more proof than general admittance? i'm also drying my laundry on a broom balanced btwn 2 chairs. 3. the subject line is the title of sodastream's new lp. it's quite good, rather sparse, and i exclaimed to myself while listening to it, "STUART MURDOCH!" but it was not. i'm looking forward to seeing them live in perth in october. they moved to melbourne, which has the lousiest weather in oz, a few years ago. i hope it stops raining by then. 4. i'm going to see travis next sunday. i don't care what you lot think, but i rather like travis. maybe they're overrated, but still good nonetheless. i think the word "good" is cliched. 5. i enrolled in university this week and was made to run around like a headless chicken on campus in the goddam rain because of bureaucracy, incompetence, stupidity and silly computer programmes. 6. catcher in the rye is certainly not goddam crumby and it doesn't contain phony vocabulary. so there. bye bye for now. i hope you made it. HY "it's just words and times and a desolate sea that's keeping me awake." ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jonnyfive at xxx.com Fri Jul 21 18:54:05 2000 From: jonnyfive at xxx.com (jonnyfive) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:54:05 -0500 Subject: Sinister: all my friends are on their holidays Message-ID: <63342000752117545588@starmail.com> dear sini, back from holidays and i'm trying to read all the digests whilst simultaneously looking like i'm doing some work. all my friends have gone on holiday (i know some people with drugs, but then i don't need any) and i'm alone. i didn't leave my house (at all) for two whole days, but it doesn't matter. does it? when i was walking down the street on my lunch break last sat. i was singing photo jenny in my head, and i got to the "how will i get her? i don't know" bit, and just did the 'how will i get her?' part when the bloke walking past me sang 'i don't know'. far too strange, i had to have some bacon crisps and a lie down. electronic rennaissance: leave it alone! why has no-one attacked you're just a baby? it stinks like baby trumps, and ER is ace. lyrics: ER witty and cute, Baby: repetitive, meaningless. music: ER: twiddly (nerrrrrr-nerrr-nee-weeerr as the solo goes. you can sing it on a bus, any bus), space-age retro, Baby: boring indie-pap, which makes B&S sound like menswear. in short, L&G of the jury> ER: knowing nod towards experimental musos, Baby: filler. mon case est dormir. a while ago much criticism was sent flying to libraries. i work in a library and it is lovely. i am very helpful (even if i do say so myself) and the index is easy if you spend every day in there for months. oh, who am i kidding? the place is full of loons. except the staff who are lovely. if only the 'customers' were locked out all day... finally, can anyone tell me what will mellor's first single was called? he used to be jambo in hollyoaks, and my friend who has deserted me for spain has bet me i can't find out. if anyone knows, please mail me, and we can talk about soap stars failed careers into the wee hours. lots and lots of love, you wonderful people. j.xxx _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jonnyfive at xxx.com Fri Jul 21 18:54:25 2000 From: jonnyfive at xxx.com (jonnyfive) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:54:25 -0500 Subject: Sinister: all my friends are on their holidays Message-ID: <4120007521175425369@starmail.com> dear sini, back from holidays and i'm trying to read all the digests whilst simultaneously looking like i'm doing some work. all my friends have gone on holiday (i know some people with drugs, but then i don't need any) and i'm alone. i didn't leave my house (at all) for two whole days, but it doesn't matter. does it? when i was walking down the street on my lunch break last sat. i was singing photo jenny in my head, and i got to the "how will i get her? i don't know" bit, and just did the 'how will i get her?' part when the bloke walking past me sang 'i don't know'. far too strange, i had to have some bacon crisps and a lie down. electronic rennaissance: leave it alone! why has no-one attacked you're just a baby? it stinks like baby trumps, and ER is ace. lyrics: ER witty and cute, Baby: repetitive, meaningless. music: ER: twiddly (nerrrrrr-nerrr-nee-weeerr as the solo goes. you can sing it on a bus, any bus), space-age retro, Baby: boring indie-pap, which makes B&S sound like menswear. in short, L&G of the jury> ER: knowing nod towards experimental musos, Baby: filler. mon case est dormir. a while ago much criticism was sent flying to libraries. i work in a library and it is lovely. i am very helpful (even if i do say so myself) and the index is easy if you spend every day in there for months. oh, who am i kidding? the place is full of loons. except the staff who are lovely. if only the 'customers' were locked out all day... finally, can anyone tell me what will mellor's first single was called? he used to be jambo in hollyoaks, and my friend who has deserted me for spain has bet me i can't find out. if anyone knows, please mail me, and we can talk about soap stars failed careers into the wee hours. lots and lots of love, you wonderful people. j.xxx _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jonnyfive at xxx.com Fri Jul 21 19:09:38 2000 From: jonnyfive at xxx.com (jonnyfive) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 13:09:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: simple things Message-ID: <63342000752118938494@starmail.com> dear all sorry, i am now one of the simple things. as if my post wasn't crap enough the first time. was toby chan's 7 posts a record? sorry toby and sorry everyone. love j. _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox at xxx.com Fri Jul 21 20:31:15 2000 From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 19:31:15 GMT Subject: Sinister: Fields In Space Message-ID: Reams of time and ranks of words separate me from my last mail to this list, if there ever was one. I could have invented it, while asleep in the back seat of a car on that southern-fried road trip that Wawa Woo was going about. Water has flowed pink and black under bridges, borne under punches. That 'freaky' bloke has changed his mind once or twice. Captain Marvel has had his hair cut a couple of times. Still: I was heading through some fields of space yesterday, somewhere south of the Cutty Sark, when I tripped over a CD. It was blue and had a white pussycat on the front. Yes, it was Whirlpool, the first Chapterhouse album, from 1991. (1990? Anyone want to correct me on this? It says inside 'recorded throughout 1990', so I think the release date must be 1991, especially if 'throughout' includes New Year's Eve 1990. Can anyone remember what they were doing on NYE 1990? Funnily enough, I think I can. I was reading The Road To Wigan Pier in a bar a few miles from Newcastle) 1991, the year in whose October Chapterhouse declared in the NME, 'Obviously we're socialists, but we're not f****** stupid enough to think that Kinnock's going to make a difference when he gets in', or something. I disliked this at the time, not for its overt political content but for the air of complacency ('Obviously'? Was it that easy to 'be a socialist' in the 1990s?) and woozy stupidity that somehow 'surrounded' it. That put me off the band, anyway - it was the week that they released an ep which I have half a mind was actually called 'Etheriel'. No, no, that can't be right (it was the Primitives who released the 'Etheriel', in Spring 1992, wasn't it, on the 'Spells ep'? I don't suppose anyone wants to buy a signed copy of that?); I'll do what Nicky the boy D would do and check it out on the 'www' soon enough. A poor start, then, for me and Chapterhouse. But when I got hold of Whirlpool I had to admit to myself that this was a weirdly substantial piece of work. The - here we go - the A-D-Bm-etc rush of 'Breather', all echoes of vocals tumbling after one another. The undoubtedly excessively 'baggy' rhythm of 'Pearl' - but the way it stops and starts in the intro is inventive. The - do you want to hear more? No, I know; but get it out and listen to it again, and you'll find that this band weren't just the fall-guys they've come to seem. Even the Trouser Press Guide To Rock, featuring Ira Robbins Famous Rock Critic, rates them, says it's 'a better breed of shoegazing' and they 'earn bonus points for timekeeping', ie. not going on and on. Then there's the fact that the two songwriters' names add up to 'Sherriff Patman', which is almost a topical reference in itself. Anyway, I had that record for a little while, till desperate people stole it from me - hey, have you ever had a Chapterhouse record stolen? This could be unique, you know - and it wasn't till yesterday that I acquired it again. �3 seemed a bit much, I was thinking, so the geezer knocked it down to �2. You know, it could always be my old copy of Whirlpool we're talking about here; that can't entirely be ruled out. The scene of the purchase was only about 3 miles from the scene of the crime. But I think I'm wrong, I take it back, for it almost definitely isn't the same old copy: this one has - get a load of this - bits of blu-tack stuck on each inner corner of the sleeve. In other words, the previous owner had the little sleeve of the first Chapterhouse CD on his/her *wall*. Even I never stooped so high as that. The end of the story is that the thing plays great, sounds louder than my old copy, and still sounds exciting, fresh, driven, or even, as the Stud Brothers said of the Jesus and Mary Chain's 'Automatic' LP in September 1989 - 'Fired'. What was I doing walking around with cash on me anyway? I'd had it pressed upon me the night before, by a roguishly good-looking fanzine editor on a tube train. Go out and buy yourself something nice, he said. (Did he? No, he didn't really). Chapterhouse only took a fifth of the sum. On what should the rest go? I went looking for a cut-price 'Souvlaki' / 'Going Blank Again', etc, without success, then thought of the House of Love. The butterfly album, yes, that'd be pretty cool to own. I nearly bought it too, then remembered my editor's puritanical reluctance to rebuy anything he already had on tape - or, as he would have it, 'the poor old tape'. So there was just one �7 option left: 'The House of Love', No, no, not the butterfly album, not Babe Rainbow, not An Audience With The Mind of Dave Allen, featuring studio guests from EastEnders (your host: Jamie Theakston). No, the one that people still call 'The House of Love', or at least the one that Melody Maker's guide to the 80s, year by year, in March 1989 (each snippet was whittled from the paper's reviews - or was it? re. 'Isn't Anything', yes; but 'Duck Rock'? Hmm), called 'The House of Love'. The first LP, that's what I mean. I borrowed it from a girl in Geography once, and haven't seen my copy for years. Had time given it a rosy aura? Had memories that were sketchy as soon as they were drawn smudged into charcoal prettiness? I'm afraid so. The first House of Love album, I feel bound to tell you - and now I know how David Stubbs felt - is a disappointment. Stubbsy, no doubt, didn't deliver such a verdict: the kids wanted to hear that it was good, and he gave 'em what they wanted. But this LP didn't, in truth - I'm really pushing the envelope here, as Michael Bracewell would say, adding that the term arose from US jet pilots in WWII - sound great in 1990, probably didn't sound that peachy in 1988, and sounds rather flat now, a sonic pancake in need of a second-hand flipper. Specifics. 'Christine' still has some majesty, it's fine by me. 'Salom�' - does their version have an accent? - is OK, I always rated it, but actually sounds like a bit like an average rock D-G-C (whatever) bouncealong now. 'Fisherman's Tale' is a godawful title, Mike Scott + Phil Collins stuff (but why do we pin such things on such people, when it's actually people like the HoL who perpetrate them?), and if I'm not mistaken has the line 'I believe in Jesus' in it. Yes, to repeat, it has the line 'I believe in Jesus' in it. That's just not good enough, even B&S wouldn't go so far. 'Man To Child' - I don't know - has a lyric which suddenly gets all Robert-Lindsay suburban, really out of keeping with the rest. But the real problems, perhaps, are: a) a flatness to the sound. I thought the HoL were meant to be sonic architects, Chorus-drenched precursors, cascading moonscapes of sticky stalactite snowball cherrycake acoustix. But here I hear bass and drums ambling along an unchallenging terrain, Bickers picking out hoary rock riffs like 'I'm Waiting For The Man' has made them OK to play, and - oh, here comes the letter b) Chadwick's vocals. I can think of some really good Chadwick vocals. Everything on the Best of the HoL, in fact - think of 'DKWI Love You', 'Girl With The Loneliest Eyes' (oooohhh! Pick that one out!), even, strangely, 'Destroy The Heart' (which remains sublime, pure essence of the best of its time, or something - which makes this thing all the stranger). But on the LP he declaims, he shouts, he 'moans' 'wryly' (but not Vini) - heck, I have a mind to say he's been taking the wrong kind of lessons from the Go-Betweens, but that forest fire is set to blaze on, let's not stoke it. It sounds - oh no, here come the Go-Betweens again - it sounds like student-band stuff, like My First Rock Group, with a dash of Cambridge Footlights about it. (Many of us have to be forgiven for godawful performances on a regular basis, I know, I know. But this isn't you and me in a back garden, this is Guy Chadwick, for heaven's sake, in studio 5 for take 74, with as much reverb as he likes, as much time to tweak and add as needed - and years of good vocals ahead of him, and even, how can it be?, behind him - and he sounds like he's fronting a band destined for arrogant oblivion, rather than the heights they did reach, before - humble oblivion.) The songs don't seem good enough; the arrangements don't seem lush enough; the vocals don't seem right. Am I wrong? I hope Steady Mike comes out of the metalwork and puts me straight on this - but believe it or not, he doesn't even own the album. Maybe he has it on tape, OK - or maybe his definition of 'not owning' includes that cavern of 2,700 slabs of vinyl stored somewhere in a sealed compartment at the bottom of the Mersey, to be opened two days after the next championship victory - but I'm not expecting to be put right on this by him any time soon. I'd expect, rather, to see a) Ally 1996, agreeing that the LP is a disappointment, and exhorting me to go for the only healthy option that makes sense, that of the Go-Betweens; b) Tim Popkins, breaking a silence in which he's drawn the longest breath of his life thus far, violently, virulently, verily agreeing with me, and thus wondering why I bought the CD in the first place - which would be disturbing, cos I'd have to agree with him. Blimey! c) David Moore UK, speeding down the highway like Lloyd Cole in 1984, driving on nine and cruising all night, listening to the rushing wings of birds of prey circling round his onrushing T-shirt, for it has a cow on it; all the while dismissing the late-80s blind alley, and backing the Eagles / ESB option. You know the other thing about this HoL album? The sleeve is a single sheet with the same goldarned photo on either side (!!!); and the inner sleeve at the back is warped. The more I think about it, the more I think it should really have cost �5.99, not �6.99. What did you kids pay for it in 1988? I'd like to know, one of these years. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alexander.bartilson at xxx.com Fri Jul 21 20:48:27 2000 From: alexander.bartilson at xxx.com (Alexander Bartilson) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 21:48:27 +0200 Subject: Sinister: "We'll be right back after the commercials." Message-ID: <000b01bff34c$e2d90240$01727180@alex> Hi, I am now back from my trip to San Francisco (not that I think anyone of you noticed that I was gone :-) ) Thanks to everyone who mailed me concerning things to do in S.F. and sorry for not replying to everyone. Anyway, went to a record store called Amoeba and it was absolutely fantastic. Someone mailed me and said that I had to go there cause it was the best record store in the world. I totally agree. It's the best record store I've ever been to anyway. I bought Saint Etienne, Heavenly and Marine Research CDs. Hadn't heard very much of Heavenly and Marine Research before but they are great. Went to the usual S.F. touristplaces like the Golden Gate brigde, Alcatraz and things like that. Tried the cable cars. that was fun. Also I saw a baseball game, that was fun too, but the game was to long in my opinion. On the whole I had a fantastic time. anyway, it's sad that there will be no B & S concerts this year. guess that would put enoumous pressure on them when they finally decide to tour. Hope I will see them at least once in my life. as I said I'm back in Sweden now. will take a year not studying before I start University so I'm currently just doing nothing and looking for job. (so mathematically I can't be doing nothing, cause I'm doing something...but you get the picture) Hope you're all enjoying your holidays and the summer. ///Alexander PS. It seems that it takes more time to come up with a subjectline than it takes writing the actual message DS. PS2. How can you americans stand all the commercials on the TV? DS. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jkrze at xxx.net Fri Jul 21 21:22:18 2000 From: jkrze at xxx.net (jkrze at xxx.net) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 16:22:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: spiral notebook Message-ID: <1025-3978B0FA-2103@storefull-226.iap.bryant.webtv.net> ....Remember that children's game "Don't Break the Ice" where you were given those tiny red hammers and had to tap out a block of plastic ice without collapsing the whole surface, well she kinda felt like that. Like she had taken her own tiny hammer and tapped out a chunk in the box that was squeezing down upon her heart, relieving some of the pressure. Like the way her teeth relaxed when she removed her retainer in the morning. Spreading... expanding...slightly glorious. The heat in her cheeks began to lessen. She felt the corners of her mouth slide upward as she tore the letter into tiny ink-stained squares and stuffed them into an empty tissue box she had temporarily been using as a waste basket.... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Jul 21 21:50:14 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:50:14 +0200 Subject: Sinister: 2001: A Space Roddyssey Message-ID: <001901bff355$e8332960$0598243e@itjfvkli> Yeah, House of Love were shit. I saw them when they had a German bird in the group. I use the word "German" so as not to offend with the word "Kraut", but that's not really necessary, is it? "Destroy the Heart" was prime high octane Krautrock. Isn't Big Stu daft? Stranded in the Amazon without food or water? Pah! Why didn't he just shin up a tree and pick a coconut? Duets, duets, duets. Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell, Alton and Hortense Ellis, Trinity and Dillinger, Motorhead and Girlschool, Gram Parsons and Emmylou Harris, Arthur Mullard and Hilda Baker... the list is endless. There has to be some kind of interaction though, it's no good just two people singing. On the news last night there was something about some kind of ray that travels so fast it arrives at its destination before it even starts out. Which means those B&S concerts might be sooner than we think. I think Stuart M is building a special concert boat, with gangplanks and everything. It'll be like an oil tanker only with beer instead of oil and a Black Crowe's nest with Jimmy Page in it. etc. Feel free to write in and say what features you'd like the concert boat to have, once you've thought of some duets. I'm beginning to annoy myself, so I'll be off. I think there's some 70s WHO shit kicking off over at Papercuts Central. Why don't The Corrs call their album "Everybody Wants To Shag The Corrs"? Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wmh74 at xxx.com Sat Jul 22 07:43:04 2000 From: wmh74 at xxx.com (William Harris) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 06:43:04 GMT Subject: Sinister: critics whistle in the blue sky Message-ID: Comrades. Since I've been on this list (admittedly a very short period of time) I've been pleased to see all the links to Belle and Sebastian related articles and criticism (thanks to all who take the time to find and then post them--lord knows I'm too lazy...). The link that was posted the other day by (oops...can't remember who...sorry) seemed to ruffle some feathers. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get the link (I'm not so computer savvy so I didn't know any "tricks" to getting there after my initial attempt was refused). Anyway, I ran across this quote while reading the other day that might just hearten those who find the band (or themselves) criticized for any artistic endevour... "Note just what it is about your work that critics don't like--then cultivate it. That's the part of your work that's individual and worth keeping."--Jean Cocteau. Admittedly, Cocteau wasn't talking specifically about music, but anyway... Religion: It doesn't seem anyone has really found an answer to this question for thousands of years. This doesn't mean, of course, that one should not try. I'm reminded of a story about a Buddist monk who was teaching/training his "disciples" (for lack of a better word) and who was attempting to get his students to throw away *all* previous belief systems. One young student finally got fed up with all this and went to the teacher/monk and told him, "Listen, I just can't do this. I'm only human and I need something to believe in. I need some firm ground to stand on." (Obviously, I'm paraphrasing here). The monk/teacher asked his student in return, "Precisely. But *who* are you?" (BTW--the monk was not just trying to indoctrinate the students with Buddist dogma, but rather trying to help them grasp a firmer understanding of themselves--which, I guess, is Buddist dogma--ahhhhh!) I guess what I get from this little anecdote is that religion/belief should be found through intense examination of the self and what seems right for you. If one finds out who one is, then one finds out what one believes. This is simplistic, I know, but really seems to be the only way to achieve any kind of spiritual/religious belief. Ideally, all paths lead to the same place and different people find different ways to get there. The problems arise when one person or group of people feel that their way is the *only* way and therefore must convert others to that belief system (esp. by intimidating people literally and with threats of "burning in hell"). Perhaps I've over stayed my welcome on this thread... Enjoy the weekend and hugs all around, Bill Always remember: "It's a short walk from the hallelujah to the hoot."--Nabokov ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 50158120 at xxx.hk Sat Jul 22 17:43:38 2000 From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 00:43:38 +0800 Subject: Sinister: united state of elastica Message-ID: <964284218.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk> Girls!!! Boys!!! < S O R R Y > Oh god. I ve sent SE7EN mails to you girls and boys. I am doped maybe. Oh Sorry, any listee can get a can of Taiwan Beer if they are in HongKong < T E E > how twee is now. I still ven't got my second order.... I ve ordered it at weeks b4. < N W O N W O N W> Mates, it is f*cking out of fashion maybe. BUT, I re-discover it. me in the year zero..... shamefully, i fall in love with Belle and Sebastian at 98 but I knew them at 96 or earlier.... Elastica is the same case. I love the Elastica, but now I can't see the "Elastica in 95". Justine is not the same Justine. Donna is gone. now i watch the video file to see the trace of Donna. < R O L L Y O U R O W N F A G S > My biggest discover of 99 is "wearing a boxer is great" My biggest discover of 00 is "roll a fag and smoke" I roll my own Samson Milde with my rizla paper. it is funny but in Hong Kong not many people do so. sometimes they mistoke that i am smoking a joint. +I will smoke silk Cut again... Toby C Island East, Hong Kong +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mariasierraflorez at xxx.com Sat Jul 22 20:41:21 2000 From: mariasierraflorez at xxx.com (maria sierra) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 20:41:21 CEST Subject: Sinister: An interview with Stuart Message-ID: <20000722184121.25318.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello lovely sinistereens! this is my first post so I'm a bit scared. I have been subscribed to the list for more than two years but I haven't written because I have never felt really confident to write something interesting for all you and also because my English is so bad that I didn't want to post something that nobody could understand as it would be full of mistakes. Anyway, I have found something on the internet about our dear Belle & Sebastian and I thought you'll like to have a look at it so that's my excuse for this first post. It's an interview of a Spanish magazine called "linacero" with Stuart. I'm afraid it's in Spanish... If anybody who can't understand Spanish would like to have it in English, just e-mail me and I'll do the translation for you. It will take me some hours, but I'll do it with pleasure! This is the address of the web site: www.linacero.com/actualidad/belle.html ======================================================================== ENTREVISTA CON BELLE & SEBASTIAN Aunque su primer disco 'Tigermilk' data de 1996 es ahora con 'Fold your hands, child, you walk like a peasant' (Frotate las manos, chaval, que caminas como un paleto), su cuarto �lbum , cuando han conocido la popularidad (dentro de su discutible c�rculo elitista). Formados en Glasgow, en 1955, han defendido su privacidad tanto como su condici�n provinciana; eso no ha impedido que sus canciones y su visi�n 'naif' del pop , unido a la poca afici�n que tienen a la prensa y a los grandes montajes, les haga acreedores de un aura de 'exclusividad', incluso de snobismo. Esta m�scara queda difuminada con nuestra experiencia, pues Stuart Murdoch (cantante y lider de B&S) contest� por e-mail todas las preguntas de nuestro brillante redactor Sergio Vinad�, y aunque un poco cascarrabias sabe sazonar su cultivada arrogancia brit�nica con abundante humor. Su nuevo trabajo es sin duda una obra maestra del pop, y en �l se respira el mundo, alejado del stress y de aparatosas ambiciones, que Belle & Sebastian reivindican. Con ustedes el mejor grupo de pop del nuevo milenio... �Cuales son vuestras pretensiones con el lanzamiento de vuestro nuevo �lbum, considerando el elevado nivel ya alcanzado en vuestros trabajos previos? No tenemos pretensiones, solo esperanzas. Cuando estamos en el estudio exigimos mucho de nosotros mismos, pero en el momento que el disco esta grabado, el asunto queda fuera de nuestras manos. Evidentemente, espero que venda millones, pero eso depende del p�blico. F�cilmente pienso que es nuestro mejor �lbum. Posiblemente es la primera vez desde 'Tigermilk' que sentimos que hemos hecho todo cuanto plane�bamos. �Sois un grupo de amigos que hac�is lo que m�s os gusta o est�is llevando vuestra carrera de una manera m�s profesional? Vuestros discos a�n suenan 'amateur' y profesional al mismo tiempo. Creo que estamos en un territorio medio. Somos amigos, pero la mayor�a ya lo �ramos antes de unirnos a la banda. Obviamente somos de alguna manera un grupo con dedicaci�n exclusiva, pero no siempre. Posiblemente grabamos el �lbum de una forma m�s profesional, pero no fue el caso decidir que fuera as�. Hemos tendido a trabajar de esta manera siempre. Me resulta ofensivo que la gente diga que el disco suena 'casero'. No nos pasamos 18 meses en el estudio para hace un disco 'casero'. L�ricamente el disco puede tener contenidos 'naif', pero no soporto que nadie proclame que musicalmente sonamos como aficionados. �Qu� bandas fueron vuestros predecesores en la manera que vosotros entend�is el pop? �Con qu� artistas est�is m�s identificados ahora? The Beatles y The Beach Boys son los precursores de todos en el mundo del pop. Ellos son los originales. Escribieron las reglas y las rompieron todas. Realmente no s� si nos sentimos particularmente cerca de alguien. Hay gente cuya m�sica nos gusta. En ocasiones creo que nos parecemos a The Beta Band, porque ambos parece que jodemos a la gente por hacer lo que nos divierte. No acabo de entender que la gente le d� vueltas a la cabeza sobre este asunto. Simplemente vivimos nuestra vida y no molestamos a nadie salvo que as� lo quieran. �C�mo organiz�is el orden de las canciones en vuestros discos?; �Por qu� dej�is una joya como 'There's too much love' al final del �lbum? Es una pregunta est�pida. �Se supone que debemos escribir una mierda de canci�n para no acabar el �lbum con una buena?. En lo que me concierne, para m� cualquier canci�n en el �lbum es una joya, as� que no seria f�cil evitar que la ultima canci�n del disco tambi�n lo fuera. Alguien te dir� que es importante que un disco termine bien. Organizamos las canciones escuchando todos los temas en diferentes ordenes hasta que encontramos la mejor manera. Evidentemente las opiniones difieren, pero si alguien muestra un sentimiento fuerte determinado hacia una de las combinaciones, tendemos admitirlo y hacerlo de esa manera. �Que sab�is sobre Espa�a, conoc�is algo de la m�sica y la cultura espa�ola? He estado en Espa�a un par de veces, y he disfrutado mucho. No s� nada sobre la m�sica espa�ola, pero me gusta el f�tbol espa�ol. Salvo que ayer fuisteis una mierda contra Noruega, �quiz�s deber�a cambiar mi opini�n al respecto de vuestro f�tbol? (Belle & Sebastian contestaron a Linaceroexpress un d�a despu�s del "glorioso" debut de la Selecci�n Espa�ola en la pasada Eurocopa). �Vais a tocar en Espa�a pronto? Creo que ser� hacia final de a�o, cuando estemos listos, pero s� que deber�amos visitar Espa�a pronto, porque hace mucho que no hemos actuado all�. �C�mo os gustar�a ser recordados? �Que imagen os gustar�a dar a la gente que compra vuestros discos? Tan simple como que somos una banda que hace espl�ndidos discos. Suena aburrido, pero es de lo que se trata cuando estas en un grupo. Dinos algo sobre vuestro sello discogr�fico 'Jeepster', cual es su filosof�a y proyectos venideros... Si hay una filosof�a en Jeepster es sencillamente fichar bandas y sacar discos en los que tenemos completa fe. Esa es la raz�n por la que tenemos relativamente pocos grupos en el sello y no tendemos a guerrear con otras compa��as. Tenemos un par de posibles fichajes a punto en este momento pero no vamos a mover nada hasta que tengamos la confianza de podemos hacerles funcionar. A la par de estos proyectos lanzaremos nuevo material de Snow Patrol, The Gentle Waves y Salako en Oto�o y posiblemente otro E.P de Belle & Sebastian. DISCOGRAFIA : CD�S 1996 Tigermilk 1996 If You're Feeling Sinister 1998 The Boy with the Arab Strap 2000 Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a peasant SINGLES y EP'S 1997 Dog on Wheels [EP] 1997 Lazy Line Painter Jane [EP] 1997 3.. 6.. 9 Seconds of Light [EP] 1998 This Is Just a Modern Rock Song 2000 Lazy Line Painter Jane [EP Box Set] 2000 Legal Man LINKS DE INTERES http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.boo2.co.uk/belle/ http://members.es.tripod.de/kiuk/ Sergio Vinad� y Jose Luis Calvo ======================================================================== Hope you like it. Stuart was a bit teasy that day! Love you all, maria ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vrider at xxx.net Sat Jul 22 22:58:30 2000 From: vrider at xxx.net (Vicki Rider) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 14:58:30 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Thery're locking them up today. they're throwing away the key. I wonder who it'll be tomorrow--you or me?" Message-ID: <002101bff428$0d6bc8e0$5acae13f@compaq> Hi! After going through about 5 digests and over 20 posts on Christianity I'd like to pipe in on the subject myself if I may: It's something I've thought a great deal about this past year because I've met both fiercely religious and anti-religious people at my school. And, we just moved into a house at the end of a parking lot in between two churches (one's Catholic and one would be under the heading "Other". It's a nice place because we can blast loud music all week and no one can hear us; but on Sunday morning we have little kids running around our yard and car alarms going off. We play Black Sabbath on those mornings :-) I'm personally very non-religious (yes, as opposed to anti-religious), but I really dislike it when some Christians feel the need to make everyone around them embrace the same set of beliefs as themselves. An example: When I was in 7th grade I lived in Cottonwood, Arizona, a plethora of bible-thumping stereotypes (the town had no decent bookstores but about 3 Christian ones, and even though the town had a modest population it boasted over 10 churches). Halfway through the school year a new girl appeared in my friends & I's classes so we became friendly with her to make her feel at home. By about a week later she had asked each of us individually if we wanted to go to church with her sometime, each of us declined. When she asked me I gave her some excuse about how I was half-Jewish and I didn't know if my mom would be thrilled with the idea of me going to church (actually she wouldn't mind in the least, but I had to say something not to offend). Upon hearing I was half-Jewish the girl quickly disengaged in in conversation with me and never spoke to me again. Now is this anyway for a person to act? I wasn't terribly hurt that she didn't talk to me anymore because she was a bit of a bland person anyway, but geez. And then there was that story awhile back where this girl said a prayer over the PA system before a high school football game and couldn't see why this was frowned upon. Sure, if you want to pray with your friends or something beforehand knock yourself out, but over the fucking PA system?? It's called separation if church and state, and it's something I'm very grateful for. Another example: My Biology teacher skipped teaching Evolution last year. Just skipped it! Sure, she discussed it for about 5 minutes one day in passing, but we never were accountable for the information, never had a test on it. Ok, teacher, if this you don't agree with this particular subject that's fine, but to keep 150 kids ignorant of it entirely is unacceptable. Another question: Why is it that when someone refers to God in the pronoun form they always capitalize He? Is it me, or is this improper English? A good example is in, fittingly, A Catcher In The Rye, where, even though Holden says he's an atheist, he goes about capitalizing He. I understand if you're religious you'd want to capitalize your creator even in pronoun form but if you "don't believe", then why He? Wow! This is certainly the longest post I've written and I've even managed to stay on topic! I'll leave you with a joke: "What do you get when you cross an insomniac, a dyslexic, and an agnostic?" "A person sitting awake all night wondering if there is a Dog." Cheers and Happy Christmas in July for all you Dick Powell fans, Rachel W. :-) Belated B+S content: "It took God six days to make the world and Belle and Sebastian five to record Tigermilk. And yes, Tigermilk is better."-George Shiel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mu1360 at xxx.com Sun Jul 23 04:36:30 2000 From: mu1360 at xxx.com (Alan Preston) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 20:36:30 -0700 Subject: Sinister: introduction Message-ID: <002b01bff457$31c83640$8b6d8ad1@ms619487> Hello listees. This is my first post, and I must say that I have enjoyed reading as many messages as I can of the list. I just received my voice last week, but between work and living I have not had too much spare time. Unfortunately I was still in the nursery during the Pink Floyd exchange, but I will not rekindle that one. It has been a while since I discovered a band like B&S...you know, the kind of band that makes it necessary to own everything they have everyone...By the way, I was in a department store the other day, and I swear I heard The State That I Am In on MUZAK. Anyway, I live in Portland, Oregon and I would love to hear from any sinisterees in the area (maybe even a picnic). Alan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From RythSoul at xxx.com Sun Jul 23 08:40:24 2000 From: RythSoul at xxx.com (RythSoul at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 03:40:24 EDT Subject: Sinister: Next stop....HELL Message-ID: <84.86487f3.26abfb68@aol.com> The religion topic really interests me, especially when hearing from others who are skeptical. Being from a quaint little suburb in California, where ninety percent of the community is Christian, I don't get to engage in any sort of religious debate without automatically feeling as if I am already burning alive in the firey pit of hell. I can't tell you what a relief it is to read opinions from other people that are the same as mine. My best friend and I always joke with our Catholic friend about how she doesn't have to pray for us anymore because we've already accepted that we're going to hell, hmm..for some strange reason she never laughs. i just don't buy it anymore. the whole heaven and hell thing. and now that i am at this point in my life where i have questioned my faith i can't believe that i was ever naive enough to just believe what a book told me, and that i could just trust something that i had no proof of. And yet on the flip side, I miss having that faith, something to believe in and hold on to. in some ways i feel like it's my innocence that was lost along with it. I don't know if i will ever regain my faith in God. Not the Christian aspect of God at least. I've seen too much suffering, my own and those that I love. I don't say that I'm an atheist though, because I do believe that there has to be a God, I just don't know that I can trust him yet. Well i'm sure that i've bored you all so i will go. Lissa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sink at xxx.gr Sun Jul 23 11:30:11 2000 From: sink at xxx.gr (Joan of Dark) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:30:11 +0300 Subject: Sinister: Colin and his dream of fishes... Message-ID: <397AC933.8D8885AA@x-treme.gr> Hi there lovely people... First of all, on the subject line...I apologise to Colin(Ferguson) but I just couldn't supress the urge of saying this.Hope I don't have to pay for any copyrights or anything like that....My inspiration came from Colin's dream of Stewart being a goldfish... "I had my first and so far only B&S dream. It was pretty bizarre to say the least. Basically Stewart M was my goldfish, even though it was silver for some reason, and I somehow managed to kill him. I can't remember if I ate him or just knocked him out of the bowl. I was so upset I was going to kill myself but then I woke up. " The strange thing is that I had a goldfish once and I had named it Colin (after Radiohead's Colin )But it somehow died although I was being very attentive to it...I was very upset when this happened too....but I wouldn't go as far as to kill myself...Well maybe if my goldfish sang Lazy Line Painter Jane or Dog on Wheels (Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying in this particular case) I'd prolly slit my wrists for letting it die.... Hmmm...are there any other fellow sinisterines from Greece??I know there are at least 5 so don't go hiding under beds or inside closets ....come forward or I'll have to drag you out!: ) Maybe we could organise a meeting or something one of these days in the summer....You can just email me privately and we'll work something out.... Samantha wrote: Whenever I put stickers on envelopes it confuses the postal animals and they postmark it in about 5 places because they somehow forget what a stamp looks like compared to a Snoopy sticker. *Yeah, I know what you mean Sam,- I hope you don't mind me calling you Sam....: ) Postal people are rather incomprehensible beings.Although I like postmans......I HAVE to like postmans or at least show them I do-they get hold of stuff that's very important to me, before me, and I have to make sure it will finally make it to my mailbox- .....they never seem to be as responsible as they should. I constantly seem to be losing mail and once an envelope was placed in my mailbox slashed open and a stamp was missing but the thing is that the letter and some photos that were inside were also destroyed...Of course noone knew a thing.... Martin Wilson wrote: (on Flaming Lips) They're OK but the words are far too clever monkey for my taste and the tunes are a bit ho hum. According to their web site they do "stuff" live so perhaps someone who's seen them will tell me different *Well........how could I possibly know???Flaming Lips were supposed to be playing in Rockwave Festival, the biggest summer festival here in Greece, on the 12th of July and guess what!!They cancelled their act!!! Why???...... "oh....err....it was just TOO hot for their milkywhitehypersensitivewellpampered majesties......"And, as far as I know... one of the things they do on stage is daubing themselves with butter....Maybe that's why they canceled their act after all....you know butter has that incomprehensible tendency to melt when it's hot. Imagine the Flaming Lips dripping melted butter and blue mascara on stage...The reason looks like sheer fear of humiliation to me!!! ; ) By the way.......on Rockwave........ ->Muse were OK....not what I expected though..They seemed to be trying really hard to get a dignified result....Others liked them but most of the audience sorted out other things while they were on.... ->Moby...well, what can i say about Moby...I've seen him live three times already and he's just incredible.I can't probably describe my feelings with words. Whoever hasn't lived the Moby experience....try not to miss it next time....He's really popular here and he knows exactly how to pay people back for their admiration and love.He gives it all on stage.I was dancing nonstop throughout his act like a loon on drugs...which I wasn't......on drugs I mean...... ->Oasis...strangely enough they were quite good as well.I was in the third row and I was finally able to get close encounters with the little Gallagher..They played a good set -thanks God, only 2-3 songs from the new album-although they only played one encore because something happened to the microphone...Liam got really pissed off and started , you know, being "nice" to the audience.... PF wrote: Can anyone remember what they were doing on NYE 1990? On New Years Eve 1990...Let me see......I was all alone in the house with my mum, my father was at work and we were watching TV after having some sort of NYE dinner I guess....we were watching the opening of a new channel....Some feast...... On the other hand....I can go as far back in the past as NYE 1987...when I was 5 or so....I spent the whole night crying cos I was informed by my mother that 1987 was just one year and that this particular year would never-ever come back again.There wouldn't be another 1987 .Never...And that turned my crying into a desperate woe...I couldn't grasp how other people would "never-ever" live their own 1987 and how it would be just for once.That incredible, magical year for me. I wanted my life to be an endless 1987, well if not all...then ....every second or third year, I could do with that I guess....But that was it....the clock struck 12 and 1988 was there....... a shiver went down my spine...I think I should celebrate a 1987 day some day...Something like a Past Year's Eve. I would plaster the walls with my paintings from the kindergarten, take all my old dolls and toys out of their boxes and sit them around the table and serve them tea and biscuits and some of those colourful candies that melted in the mouth that our teacher would treat us for being good little boys and little girls and take our afternoon nap.....All this in the sound of a Smurf's tape...a remnant of those times....... PF wrote: I went looking for a cut-price 'Souvlaki' / 'Going Blank Again', What is that "Souvlaki" you mention PF??As far as I know it's a greek cuisine plate....well, not plate....looks like a taco but for us greek people it's like your -"your" counts if you're english- fish and chips....Who would have been so weird as to name a band (cos that's what I suspect it to be) after.......souvlaki??? Okay, that's me for now, I know this was rather long and....almost out of the subject -but what other subject could there be apart from trying to get closer to each other.... *Hmmm...An international community of all us sinister people....taking over the rest of the world ,keeping joyful flags flying and putting flowers in the hair of punk and metal and grunge people that always seem so sad and aggressive... daubing Flaming Lips with apple butter and dragging B&S onto the stage for the biggest and most colourful gig of the world-ever...* ahhhh.......... Beautiful sunny mornings to you all...... Joanna @}--}------ PS: On Christianity.......I'm not the kind of person I want to be...But I'm quite sure, this is nothing to do with god.......... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From julesmarkham at xxx.net Sun Jul 23 15:17:02 2000 From: julesmarkham at xxx.net (julesmarkham) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:17:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: THE FEAR! Message-ID: <014c01bff4b1$50e2e8e0$ae498cd4@tonygeorge> okay, which devious little scamp voted me as a listcrush? you know I get freaked out by anonymous proclamations of love! speak, oh cruel wee beastie! jules xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From strappingarab at xxx.com Sun Jul 23 16:12:12 2000 From: strappingarab at xxx.com (robert smith) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 08:12:12 PDT Subject: Sinister: not at all ha ha hee hee Message-ID: <20000723151212.6697.qmail@hotmail.com> well well, here i am again. i haven't posted for ages and there are many reasons for this (none of them to do with the list, don't think this is going to be a maony post) anyway i've had a truely up and down month. there has never been a worse start to a month in my life. now you probably think that this is going to be some sort of bedsit infamy sort of worse start but its not. a friend of mine called johan was killed in a car crash in june. he was 21. we weren't all that close but that makes no difference. this sort of thing can really change you. i've been in loads of car crashes but no one has ever been hurt so why him? it is aweful seeing the effect it is having on the people that were his best friends. kev has always been a sensitive type and now he's become really intreverted. i don't see how i can help him. sorry for posting such unhappiness but needed to get it off my chest. on a lighter note (doesn't that sound out of place?!?) i /ve just got back from a short holiday in cornwall. i think some time in the country always does me good. the problem is staying in such a pretty place i get a really romanticised vision of the people that live their, then i find out they're just the same sort of types that i get in suburbia, only wiith worse dress sense. a typical outfit would be ben sherman shirt with tracksuit bottoms. if scarlet were reading this she'd be horified! the best solution is to ignore the natives, internalise and become more poetic than usual. wrote loads while i was out there. anyway thats enough for now much love robert smith ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LunaLilly at xxx.com Sun Jul 23 17:16:34 2000 From: LunaLilly at xxx.com (LunaLilly at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:16:34 EDT Subject: Sinister: the cube we had for fresh air... Message-ID: Yes, hello. How might you all be? I think some of you might say very well and some might just look at me and not say anything at all and which in this case I would know that meant awful. So I had a weekend from dream world. What do I mean? Oh well this is what happened....I am going on a trip to Europe and I have no money since my business decided it didn't want to work for about 2 months and silly me I kept spending like it worked better than ever. So I was hearing these things about these medical studies that take place the town over. I like the town over. It's pleasant. My friend's parents live there too...so we frequent it. OK back to the subject.....I decided to do one of these studies. It was to pay $830.00 and a friend loaned me a nice chunk too. Well, I go there on Thursday night....managed to find some nice boys to chat with about books and so on.....we all went to sleep knowing we were to be woken at 6 am to have tubes (IV's) into our arms. Ok so I wake up and manage to walk into the ward....there were 12 of us on this particular study....and after going through the hell of having tubes stuck into my veins.....the started to take my blood...out of one of the tubes mind you.....Ok to make this long boring story short...I got so so so sick from the med. they gave me. It was so awful.....I got to go outside like 2 times and it was this courtyard and all you could see when you looked up was this tiny patch of sky. Just awful. And everyone in there was smoking (there were 5 other studies taking place)....I found another nice boy....sort of a hippie...not my fav.....but he was so sweet. Then the throwing up started. I threw up so much and so violently.....my abs hurt very badly the next day. Not that you wanted to hear this. So I have to go back next week and do the same thing over. What have I become? It's quite sad to know you are subjecting yourself to torture for money. My veins are so bruised too....like a junkie. Then my batteries went out in my walkman and I couldn't listen to Belle and Sebastian or anything else for that matter. Oh well. I think it will be ok next week. I managed to paint my friends parents house yesterday and I also managed to walk about that town covered in my paint clothes and but some nice music. So what am I complaining about? Ok I am sorry to subject you to this awful email......maybe you won't have even read this far. But thanks if you did....Olivia +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kev at xxx.uk Sun Jul 23 19:15:30 2000 From: kev at xxx.uk (Kev) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:15:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hogging the slow lane, just to show off Message-ID: <001301bff4d2$00099240$38dd93c3@oemcomputer> Hello, Um, me again. Writing for no reason other than it's a Sunday evening, I'm drinking cheap, strong (repellant really) cider and I, y'know, felt like it. I'm glad that there Sheffield picnic was fun. I nearly went you know, honest I did. I nearly decided to show my face and be sociable and happy and all the rest. I even looked at the train timetables. As it turned out though, I woke up on Saturday with a rather sore head after having indulged rather heavily on the Diet Tango the night before, and as well as feeling as sick as a lab rat I just plain forgot. Sorry. That was non-story number one. There'll be another in a moment. You'll never guess, so I'll tell you. On Friday I bought my first ever car. By mistake. I saw it in the showroom drove in it, and before I knew what I was doing I'd signed about two hundred pieces of paper, earned a gurning salesman a nice commission and landed myself in debt for the next four years. Still, there's a Fiat Punto out front, and it's green. Which is all that really matters. The thing I've noticed most though, after getting over the novelty of driving for the first time in about 3 years had worn off and I'd managed to work out that the car isn't, in fact, as wide as the WHOLE ROAD and driving like a SCREAMING MANIAC, was that I don't know how to actually *get* anywhere. No idea at all. No idea how to get out of Leeds, no idea how to even get to the video rental shop. I pulled out of the drive to go to work today and suddenly realised that the only route I knew was the way the bus went, and apart from that being a really twiddley windey way to go it didn't even get me to the office just to the centre of town, and also that it goes through lots of bus only roads. People get upset if you drive down those. So what I have, in fact, sacrificed my social life and abundant CD purchases for the next century or so for is a very expensive metal box. Still, it is green, as I said. I shall have to invest in a map. This is non story number two : the company I work for has recently moved into some ultra sexy new offices (as apparently we are doing "really well" and I should be very excited, all it really means though is that likely I'll need to start working harder, or even at all) and with that move we've got some friendly new staff who help to keep the office tidy and ensure that people's bins are emptied etc. Fair enough. One of the things they do though - at the management's request, I assume - is come around at the end of the day and generally give your space a bit of a tidy, make sure there are no paper cups left around etc. BUT, what they also seem to do is take everyone's personal mug (if they have one) into the kitchen and do a great load of washing up. Now I think this might just be me, but I personally feel really uncomfortable with someone doing that for me, it seems to be implying that they are somehow beneath me and that I'm more important than them because I work *for* the company, rather than just cleaning up after it. it's like when people don't say thank you to waiters, I *hate* that. So anyway I had to take hold of my mug and say to the lady that really, it was fine, I'd wash the mug myself, don't worry about it. Only I'm not sure if that doesn't only make things worse. I worry about it every day when it gets too about 5:15. I try not to be at my desk, which, to be honest, isn't very hard. That's been playing on my mind, anyway. Oh dear. I appear to have talking for a large number of days. Sorry. But I do only post once every ice age or so, and this time I have a car. It's green you know. Love and inexplicable half recognised gestures. Kev (soon to be horizontal). --- http://www.lost-cat.org.uk/ Post Script - Because I always think they're rather good, don't you? Oh, and Nick Cave is under your bed. I'm not kidding. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wpsalt at xxx.com Sun Jul 23 19:57:36 2000 From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:57:36 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Good Things and Bad Things Message-ID: Good things and bad things have been happening to me lately. For example: we get all sorts of odd-looking people at our work. Just the other day, there was this bloke who looked just like "aristocratic" Stu M on the inside of FISHYCLAP, but with NHS glasses and a colonially-shaped helmet. You know what I mean; the hemispherical ones, with a big brim. This one was in tweed, however. In fact, all of his clothes were tweed. He looked as if he has never, ever said anything to anybody -- at least, not since Rhodesia declared independance. On Religion: All this talk about religion has made me think: one day, I'm going to start my own religion. Actually, I've been thinkinh about it for ages, but this is a Good Time to mention it. I haven't thought of a snappy name, so for now my cult shall be known merely as the Fundamental Agnostics. Our secret wisdom shall not be some magic words or a funny handshake; it will be the fact that we have no secret wisdom, and we are comfortable with that. We shan't tell you: when you die, you shall go to a Happy Place. We shall tell you: when you die, we don't know what will happen. Have fun finding out. We shall encourgae people not to believe everything that they read, or everything they are told. We shan't pretend that we know everything, either, or that we want you to go to heaven, or that we want you to send us your money. If you appreciate us, you are free to send your money, but we shall never solicit it. You see, the religious people I don't like are the ones who always say that they *know*. I was brought up an Anglican, and was always told that God will never answer tests; you have to have the strength to believe in him for yourself. Now, I see people saying "I can !PROVE! that Jesus existed", and I want to ask them: "So, you don't really believe in him?" I've studied archaeology, and find it quite amusing to read through some of these "Christian Archaeology" books spotting the obvious mistakes -- I don't mean factual errors in Middle Eastern archaeology, but places where the writers clearly don't understand what archaeology can and can't do. IMHO, those people persuade themselves that they can prove the truth of the Bible, because they don't have the personal strength or confidence to rely on belief alone. I, on the other hand, contend that your life will be better if you accept that you cannot prove what will happen after death (to take one example), and learn to live with that. Two related things happened to me in the last few days. One, I have received wisdom, in the form of graduating from university. A man in a richly-decorated gown tapped me on the head with a cap made from the trousers of a centuries-dead theologian, and therefore, I can now put some letters after my name. I *really* haven't seen the fuss; the "Yes! I've finished!" moment came a few months back when I finished my dissertation; before I'd even done any exams. Presumably, if it hadn't, I'd have got a better grade. Two days later, i found that my gf's mother has cancer. Sometime in the next year, she will probably die. Here's a reassuring thought for all those people who want proof that heaven is real. If there is no life after death, you're unlikely to discover it. By that point, there'll be no you. Of course, *I* don't know whether there is or not. I can't prove anything about the metaphysical world, and I want to tell everyone that nobody living ever can. Of course, I could always be wrong about that, too. -- Will S +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brian_away at xxx.com Sun Jul 23 20:29:56 2000 From: brian_away at xxx.com (Brian Phillips) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:29:56 GMT Subject: Sinister: B&S meet heavy metal Message-ID: Hello one and all- Anyone who knows me, and the range of music I listen to, might not be surprised that I'd be buying B&S music in the morning, and dancing hard at a metal show in the evening. Such was the case yesterday. I already have FISHYCLA PHEASANT, but Saturday in the A.M., I finally bought Legal Man. I was particularly curious about the "Judy" song. I put the cd in the cargo pocket of my shorts, and forgot all about it... Later in the evening, I ended up at hardcore/metal show at a local club. The bands were playing well, motivating the crowd, so some dancing ensued. Am I'm not talking about the waltz here. More of the "floorpunch" style. And of course I was out there doing Bruce Lee spinkicks. When I found my way home last night, I put my hand on my cargo pocket and remembered my precious cargo. My jaw dropped, and I feared the worse. I pictured myself dumping out pieces of plastic. I pulled out the case, and the front was pretty much smashed. The insert that says "Legal Man" is currently obscured by cracked plastic, missing pieces. HOWEVER: the cd itself was not even scratched! Good thing Jeepster has that contract with Kevlar Body Armor. (Moral of the story: don't buy vinyl, or else it would've been smashed for sure) take care now Brian http://www.defeat.cjb.net ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ISawUfall at xxx.com Sun Jul 23 22:11:40 2000 From: ISawUfall at xxx.com (ISawUfall at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:11:40 EDT Subject: Sinister: shane mcgowan and nick cave Message-ID: <43.7ea003d.26acb98c@aol.com> u can get on CD as well...bootlegs n shit. vive le cave! -dave-o! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Mon Jul 24 06:51:47 2000 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 05:51:47 GMT Subject: Sinister: You Can Do It,Put Your Back Into It,Antexit Message-ID: Little dumplings, How are all your little summer wastings going? I feel zapped out of the news concerning picnics,like there wasn't the usual flood? I don't get annoyed at all with picnic reports,bring it on,seriously!..I was hoping for more..stories about football games..boys..scottish boys in skirts..falling in the mud...I'm sorry,its about 2 in the morning I think.I was shocked to hear that Peter Miller attended a picnic..I have this image of you,elusive Sister Disco,really tanned skin,long white hair and a wizard costume.(these visions i'm cursed with...) Carsmile Steve,I think being possessed by the Spirit of Gen Wesley is a really good thing.There should be more stories of Stuart Murdoch is tight white muscle tees wrestling with oil under the hood.Although I can't imagine him trying to pick up chicks.He's too much of a gentleman! But what fun it would be to hear him say 'Get your ass in and lets And let's RI-I-I-I-I-IDE!' Jay Z style.He'd be more the type to put his jacket over the mud puddle while holding your hand as you daintily step over it and then go frolicking together I am sad,I don't have enough money to go to England for the summer to see all those above-mentioned muddied men in skirts/hot pants on the field. Sigh. But I think I am going to New York picnic instead,so I hope that a lot of people go there.(Since it's all about Damo I'm anticipating flocks of sinisterines)I'm not 45 you know.(cough,cough)And really,I'm not a male either.Let's have fun together!Where has Lucas gone? Lucas,come to New York! That Freaky Trigger piece hurt my head..Can that person honestly enjoy music? Or every time he listen to a Belle and Sebastian song,this disection what it means to be a belle and sebastian fan,what it means to be part of the movement,why this movement works for/against them and then all the comparisons aaaaaaaa honestly,I'd go insane.I read all those pieces relating accompanying the main piece,even the B&S vs LFO and pathetically,felt a bit smug when one of the guys was trying to disect the lyrics of "Summer Girls" Isn't the line 'I stole your honey like I stole your bike' a Beastie Boys song? Pah.They know nothing.Oh God,now I'M discussing LFO on here.Cliff Richards,I will get down on my knees immediately and pray for forgiveness. I'm going away on 'vacation' to michigan now..Make sure there is lots of big naked bum discussion to keep that Andy Flynn in check... kisses, Genevieve ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Mon Jul 24 09:21:48 2000 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 04:21:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: pastures in the sea Message-ID: Hi again, Sorry for posting so much. It's just that I'm driving myself a bit mad lately. Hurray for Fiats. You've got to love them. Boxy cars are great, much better than the inflated balloon-like cars of today. (What I mean is that Fiats seem to adhere to an older standard.) And GREEN. What style! They have all these neat compact models in Europe that they don't have over here. I beat down Maria Sierra's inbox requesting a translation. Maybe I've not given her enough time to respond, but maybe the incredibly generous Spanish speaking members on the list could do a joint translation - one paragraph each? I think there was something about discos in the article. Yesterday I listened to Eleanor Rigby and was amazed by the strings. I'm glad no one reads my posts that carefully: I claimed contradictorily to dislike the strings in There's Too Much Love but to like the chord progression type thing in it, which Nick had said was in the strings. I think I'm straight about that now; but the strings don't seem exceptional, just the normal way they're used to 'wax ecstatic' (yeah, that sounds lame). But on Eleanor Rigby, it's like you can feel the bow against the strings. It's lovely. I hope you listen to it. Kevan wrote in his occasional post, of much more use than an occasional table: brian, i definitely remember you complaining that stevie is always doing that choppy steve cropper guitar thing. it's good to hear "there's too much love" proving that he's learnt to do seventies stax guitar sounds as well as the sixties ones - and on the same song too! no wonder everyone loves it. I guess the seventies stax stuff will just be the parts that aren't choppy steve cropper, which is like in You're Just a Baby, right? I'll have to listen for that. But sixties guitar sounds fine by me, and it looks so good when they play that way. I think I just like abrasiveness - I was thinking of the affinity between playing the guitar that way and the violin. I think I get Family Tree now. It's supposed to be a humorous light song, but Isobel's mincing tones don't exactly come across as funny. And there's nothing wrong with babies. Sometimes I think I would just like to keep house and daydream while dusting bookshelves. Slow laborious movement and filmy curtains. Much love, Youn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mariasierraflorez at xxx.com Mon Jul 24 17:11:17 2000 From: mariasierraflorez at xxx.com (maria sierra) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:11:17 CEST Subject: Sinister: English version of the interview with Stuart! Message-ID: <20000724151117.91658.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi lovely sinistereens! As some of the listees have asked to me and I believe I must do it I have translated the interview with Stuart to English. I hope all you will be able to understand it because I�m sure there are many translation mistakes in it as my English is very bad... Obviously, the words I have translated are not exactly the same that Stuart wrote. I�m sorry about that and also about that fact that I should have translated it to English the first time I posted it. I have been a naughty girl... If you don�t understand something or if you have any doubts, please e-mail me and I�ll try to help you. Love to all you, maria ________________________________________________________________________ INTERVIEW WITH BELLE & SEBASTIAN Although their first record �Tigermilk` is from 1996 now with �Fold your hands, child, you walk like a peasant', their forth album, they have become popular (into their arguable elitist circle). They were formed in Glasgow in 1995, they have upheld their privacy and their provincial condition as well, that hasn�t avoid that their songs and their �naif` vision of pop, in addition to the small fondness they have towards the press and the big shows, make them deserving of an exclusiveness atmosphere, even of snobism. This mask was blurred by our as Stuart Murdoch (singer and leader of B & S) replied via e-mail all of our questions that our brilliant editor Sergio Vinade, and although he was a bit a quick-tempered person, he knew how to use his developed British arrogance with good humour. Their new record is a masterpiece of pop and in it the world breathes far away from the stress and the showy pretension that Belle & Sebastian claim. Here it is the best pop band of the new millenium... What are your pretensions about your new album, taking into account the high level you have already reached in your previous records? We haven�t got pretensions, just hopes. When we are in the studio we require a lot to ourselves, but in the moment when the songs are recorded, the fact is out of us. Obviously, I hope it will sell millions, but depends on the public. I easily think that it�s our best record. Maybe this is the first time since �Tigermilk` that we feel we have made everything we have planned. Are you a group of friends that make what you really like or are you taking your carreer in a more professional way? Your records still sound �amateur` and professional at the same time. I believe we are in the middle of the territory. We are friends but most of us were it before joining the band. Obviously we are in a way a band with an exclusive dedication, but not always. Possibly we recorded the album in a more professional way but we haven�t decided it to be like this. We are always used to working that way. It�s offensive that people think that the record sounds �home-made�. We haven�t spent 18 months in the studio to make a �home-made� record. Lyrically the record may have some �naif� contents, but I can�t stand with anybody claming that musically we sound like amateurs. What bands were your predecessors in the way you consider pop music? Which artist are you more indentified with at the moment? The Beatles and The Beach Boys are the predecessors of everybody in the world of pop. The are the original. The wrote the rules and they broke all of them. In fact I don�t know if we particularly feel close to anybody. We like the music of some people. Some times I believe we are similar to The Beta Band, because we both seem to fuck people to do the things that we enjoy. I can�t understand why somebody goes over this fact in his mind. We just live our life and we don�t bore anybody unless they want to. How do you organize the order of the songs in your records? Why have you left a jewel like �There is too much love� at the end of the album? That�s a stupid question. Are we supposed to write a filthy song to not to finish the album with a good one? As for me, any of the songs of the album is a jewel so that it wouldn�t be easy to avoid that the last song of our record were it too. Somebody will tell you that it�s very important that a records finish okay. We organize the song listening to all of the themes in different orders until we find the best way. Obviously the opinions are different but if anybody shows a strong feeling against one of the combinations, we are used to admitting it and doing it that way. What do you know about Spain, do you know anything about the Spanish music and culture? I�ve been in Spain a couple of times and I�ve enjoyed them a lot. I don�t know anything about Spanish music but I like Spanish football. Except of you were shit against Norway. Should I change my mind about your football? (Belle & Sebastian replied to Linaceroexpress the day after the �glorious� debut of the Spanish Team in the last Eurocup). Are you going to give soon any concerts in Spain? I think it will be at the end of the year, when we�ll be ready, but I know we must visit Spain soon because it�s a while since we last played in there. How would you .like to be remembered? What kind of image would you like to show to the people who buys your records? Only like a band who makes splendid records. It sounds boring but that�s the aim when you are in a band. Tell us something about your record company �Jeepster�, which is their philosophy and the forthcoming projects... If there is a philosophy in Jeepster it�s just singing up bands and make records that we have fully faith in. That�s the reason why we relatively have a small number of bands and we don�t usually have to put a fight against other companies. We have a couple of possible singing-up at the moment but we are not going to do anything until we are absolutely confident about them. At the same time of these projects we will publish new stuff of Snow Patrol, The Gentle Waves and Salako in the autumn and perhaps another E.P. of Belle & Sebastian. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andy_flynnie at xxx.com Mon Jul 24 17:07:59 2000 From: andy_flynnie at xxx.com (Andy Flynn) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:07:59 BST Subject: Sinister: Next stop....HELL Message-ID: God doesn't exist!! Sorry but the need for a god as either a scapegoat for natural disasters, as something to use as an emotional crutch, or for the church to threaten us with have long since gone. God evolved from the cananite sumerian pantheon...a pagan pantheon very similar to the neighbouring Sumerian one where he was the former of two brothers El elohim & Enki. He evolved into the one god type thing when the Jews in Exile, tried to define there religion in the written form as it stood at that point in time If they'd done it 200 years before we'd have a whole pantheon to worship.....along with a good few sumerian myths for good measure that became the bible. We've turned what was essentially an equal to the contemporary Greek pantheon into this religion .....it was the one that lasted thats all..essentially because rome threw its full weight and Legion behind it! it's all a load of bollocks designed to keep women in there place...Straight up! Down with religion......Booooooooooooooh!!!!! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nikkibutterfly at xxx.net Mon Jul 24 17:32:54 2000 From: nikkibutterfly at xxx.net (Nikki Lively) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:32:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: New in the 'Nati Message-ID: <381775016.964456374231.JavaMail.root@web621-wrb.mail.com> Hi listees! I'm happy to finally be writing ya'll! (I'm a native Texan and this is an excellent non-gender specific word - use it today!) I've been lurking on 2 different email addys, but I'm finally ready to see the sun. I just moved to Cincinnati (or the 'Nati as i like to call it now) to do a fellowship at the Children's Hospital. If there are any listees anywhere in the near vicinity PLEASE email me! I don't mind saying I am desparate for pals and to find good music. I discovered a cool record store this weekend. One of the guys who works there picked out some stuff in response to my request for progressive house that was groovin. I bought this great Ministry of Sound garage double CD. That should hold me for a bit. Speaking of Groovin I saw the movie Groove yesterday. Most of the plot was a really cheesy portayal of a party, but the music was damn good. Has anyone else seen it yet? I shall stop here. Thanks for the community, it's great to be here! Love, Nikki:) P.S. Hi Tom!! Are you back from Europe yet? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andy_flynnie at xxx.com Mon Jul 24 17:58:38 2000 From: andy_flynnie at xxx.com (Andy Flynn) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:58:38 BST Subject: Sinister: House of Love..... Message-ID: were ace! The 'Beatles and the Stones' & Christine were great songs. Who was the german girl who sang with them though? Did she not go on to be famous in her own right? All those who liked the house of Love say Aye! Buyashanka Flynnie ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Versusidle at xxx.com Mon Jul 24 19:02:39 2000 From: Versusidle at xxx.com (Versusidle at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:02:39 EDT Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #225 Message-ID: <57.8d79630.26addebf@aol.com> hello, hello. was wondering if anyone could tell me where all the great record shops in london and edinburgh are. thank you. cecile +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox at xxx.com Mon Jul 24 20:38:28 2000 From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 19:38:28 GMT Subject: Sinister: This Year's Birthday. Possibly. Message-ID: I'm not quite ready yet to publish my retraction of what I said about the House of Love the other day - though ever since I went and listened to it in the middle of Greenwich Power Station, the insistent words of a certain Black Tambourine chorus have been clanging unavoidably through my head. But meanwhile, the following document has fallen into my hands. It purports to be the original Simon Reynolds review of the album from June 1988. I think a Reynolds expert has made it up to get some precious few of us slavering like idiots at sentences about sunbursts and sugarcubes. Personally, I know I lapped it up like a thirsty kitten. But what do the kids reckon? Is it for real, or merely 4 Reel? -------------------- "THE HOUSE OF LOVE" by THE HOUSE OF LOVE (Creation) WELL! I'm truly taken aback. That someone with nerves so jaded, with appetites accordingly so perversely attuned as myself, can be enthralled and utterly slain by...guitar shine, minor chord plangency, and melody...at this late hour...Well, it says something about the House of Love, "Christine" even has a "ba-ba-ba-ba-ba" refrain that, for once, elates rather than deflates me. "Christine" you must have heard about by now. A rare consensus has sprung up over this single round here, right across the spectrum from the Thanatos-worshipping cosmonauts to the lysergic dandy axis. It could well be this year's "Birthday". The literary side to the group was handled last week by John Wilde, so I guess I'll deal with the sound, which somehow he managed to overlook. This, to me, is like failing to notice the sun's gone into supernova. If ears were eyes, you'd need an arc-welding visor to face this dazzle. If you wanted to trace the origins of this lustrous, over exposed guitar sound, you'd have to look back to the innovations of Wire and McGeoch. But closest counterparts today are the jagged opalescence of Nice Strong Arm (true mavericks from Texas), and the ice-spar apocalypse of AR Kane. Remember that electric line in Van Morrison's "Ballerina":"the light is on the left side of your hair". This sound IS that light. "Love In A Car", "Happy", "Fisherman's Tale", "Touch Me", are all that close to the superlative "Christine". There are cadences and changes here that don't just trigger, they sound like the shiver down the spine. I haven't got to grips with the words yet, but I imagine they're about the moments so precious they make you terribly aware of mortality. Or they're about the things that help you ward it off:"deep blue eyes, takes me through my sleep". In "Christine" there's despondency - "and the whole world dragged us down" - but also the sheer ascent and severe hover of the guitars, a defiance of gravity. A though:the guitar sound is spring, the melody and lyrics autumn, "pleasure turn to poison as the bee-mouth sips..." Guy Chadwick's vocal persona falls somewhere between Go Between' dry and meditative, and Chill's chaste devotional. It's not a big voice, nor is it demonstrative, but its the right one, for this ravished gaze. Without resorting to any of the self-conscious gestures of the "New", The House Of Love make it all feel so new again. For once, we are talking "perfect pop". But there are no specific echoes or retrovibes, just a myriad of reverberations. This is no petrified model of lost perfection, but rather perfectly petrifying. In both senses:this is the beauty that terrorises, this is the beauty that turns to stone. Timeless transcendence. (SIMON REYNOLDS) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From imn_uk at xxx.uk Mon Jul 24 21:40:09 2000 From: imn_uk at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?ian=20nicolson?=) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:40:09 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: kicking against the pricks Message-ID: <20000724204009.11261.qmail@web4302.mail.yahoo.com> the other night i sat up and wrote a big f-off thesis (well, not quite) thingy about religion n'all that kinda stuff which i was going to send to the list. but then i read andy flynn's post and realised that he was *so* much cleverer than me and i'd just be embarressed. actually, that's not true - i didn't send it cause it'd probably bore you to tears and i don't want people shouting at me and chasing me down the street with big sticks. not any more than they already do, anyway... BUT - the main point of it was that even if you're not into religion and you don't believe in god, or the resurrection or the virgin birth etc., etc., (and i couldn't ever say that i *really* do) i think that if you ignore the nonsense that the churches tell you (not that i'm saying that churches only tell you nonsense...) but still try to live your life in the way that jesus tells people to in the gospels - ie forgiving, loving, being non-judgemental, putting other people before you etc. - then that's probably a good way to live your life. i'm just trying to say that religion isn't all wrong, it's maybe just sometimes people use it in the wrong way. and, of course, i'm only talking about christianity cause i'm an ignorant little so-and-so. it's also worth considering that the people who don't like organised religion are kinda following jesus in a way, cause the one thing he gets angry at in the bible are the scribes and pharasees who tell the people what to think and what they should believe in. b+s bit - i seem to listen to fewer songs every time i put FYSHYCLAP on - this can't be good. did anyone see the go-betweens in london last week? was it fun? go on - you know you want to tell us... luv etc. ian n ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From feather-boa at xxx.com Mon Jul 24 22:21:07 2000 From: feather-boa at xxx.com (feather boa) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:21:07 -0700 Subject: Sinister: i want to be a feminist, but i can't afford the books Message-ID: hello sinister sisters and brothers, i finally saw high fidelity today. it's been one of my favourite books about music for a very long time, and the film definitely did it justice (although why the random skate-punks at then end, i thought the book was fine?). and i thought dick (the b&s fan) was lovely, and he actually looked and talked like (some of) the male fans that i have met, so that was perfect, although i thought that it should have been a band like the olivia tremor control rather than green day that he bonded with his love over. yes. what else? i hear you cry. my brother is staying with some friends of his near brighton, and hasn't yet phoned home tonite, so there is panic on the streets of london, as various parents stress out over nothing. and i went and had a picnic with some of my friends in hyde park on saturday night, yes, when steps were playing. but i thought of you the whole way through, honest. i am spending the summer wasting (inevitably), but tomorrow i'm off to see tate modern, with a picnic lunch. so if anyone sees a girl on the south bank with jarvis cocker specs and black flares, then it's probably me, but don't be too sure, there's a lot of us about. pip pip, FB X *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From knightowl at xxx.net Mon Jul 24 22:37:14 2000 From: knightowl at xxx.net (Knightowl) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:37:14 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Next stop....HELL References: Message-ID: <007201bff5b7$5cf8e920$d81fd718@mountaincable.net> > God doesn't exist!! Not true. I am told he lives in an abandoned dumpster down by the library. People say you can never be sure if he's talking to you or himself, but he most definitely has turette's. Nice fellow, but he could use a bath, or so I'm told. I think Julian Cope once spoke to him in a parking lot - but thats an old story. Someone kind should give him a Wooskie before the winter comes. "Please don't let them make me be a monkey butler", Ed PS - Does anyone EVER post anything on B&S? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From meanies at xxx.uk Mon Jul 24 22:41:57 2000 From: meanies at xxx.uk (Mick Cooke) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 22:41:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: New Diary of a Band Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000724224157.007f12a0@mail.force9.net> DIARY OF A BAND 24th July 2000 As you'll probably know, Belle and Sebastian aren't playing any gigs for the rest of the year, but suffice to say we'll definitely be back playing gigs early next year. It was always the way; when the band started there was an unwritten agreement between everyone that the band would never become everything in our lives, that there would always be room for people to do other things. The band's future would most certainly be in jeopardy if it was all everyone did 12 months out of the year. In the meantime, I've been getting back to the shop floor. Last Friday I was trailing the record shops of Edinburgh with Gordy of the Amphetameanies, putting up posters for the 'Meanies album, and trying to punt copies to the indie shops the distributors missed. We had a brilliant time, and it put me in mind of the time Stuart, Richard and others did the same with Tigermilk when it was first released. In fact, the proprietor of the smaller Avalanche on Lady Lawson Street showed me the Tigermilk poster Stuart hand delivered in '96, which the proprietor claims he had to rescue from a refuse skip after it had been discarded during a clearout of the shop. The shop's brilliant though, total 'High Fidelity', as is Professor Plastic's Vinyl Exchange on West Richmond Street, where my friend Keith tells me the owner demands that his clients always refer to him as 'Professor'. We're planning a similar jaunt to London soon. I am also playing a bit with Snow Patrol. They are playing the Witness festival outside Dublin at the start of August. Richard and myself are DJ'ing too which I hear has somehow been blown into the rumour that Belle and Sebastian are playing a live gig there. Unfortunately, the practise schedule for the festival was hindered somewhat after the singer Gary fell down the stairs one night at the Glasgow Art School after a particularly heavy session, busting his eye and developing severe concussion. By the time the ambulance arrived, Gary had locked himself in the toilet, refusing to come out. Having eventually made it to casualty, he further delayed proceedings by locking himself in the toilet once more. He's okay now though, and has just phoned me to say that a practise is to be booked for this afternoon, and that he'd phone back in five minutes. That was nearly an hour ago. Perhaps the concussion has not fully worn off. Mick Cooke _________________________________________________________ the Official Belle and Sebastian Band Site is at: http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DelyM2 at xxx.com Tue Jul 25 05:02:02 2000 From: DelyM2 at xxx.com (DelyM2 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 00:02:02 EDT Subject: Sinister: Till Tuesday Message-ID: <37.7ef948d.26ae6b3a@aol.com> thanks a bunch to whom ever posted that bit on genital mutilation. I had a horrifyingly vivid dream about it. Good ness. I am what one might call, un-intellectual. So this next bit might just be a gas for some of you . I'm going to attempt to reason out why belle and sebastian sound so delicous. See, the thing is . the lyrics stand at middle ground. they are not so shallow that you cant bear to listen to a word of it. but they are also not too meaningful that you have to listen so closely to them. Therefore, you can listen to a belle and sebastian song. and enjoy it without having to think about why. (which goes to say, is great for someone like me) Anyway sometimes i wonder if "deep thought" is just a little over rated. Skimming pass the surface causes you to miss some important details. or maybe not. PS: i wrote a poem. i hope it isnt too truamatizing for you. She has been so eloquently missplaced upon this earth of ours. Her feet carry her softly across the soil that has refused to accept her, yet she still worships the ground she walks on. A puzzle is the path she has taken. Troubling, Incomplete, yet fits so well. And an open field full of fireflies would just make her night, but her body is too feeble to take the journey. It seems unfair when waves of dirt flood the others into the light. So her nights are filled with rows of wires hanging from the sky. Showing characteristics of the graceful weeping willow, but ever so false, ever so lifeless. They carry the conversations of the dolls from inside their tiny wooden houses, which are stored in dormant attics for mice to investigate. She plays no part in this never ending line of communication. The lines paint the skies, the lines paint her forehead. They were painted with the brush of her memories. Dabbed in colors of glass clasped inside her palm tightly. Framed with salty water that deviously escaped her eyes. The scars on her deliciously delicate hands form patterns that seem unlogically curious upon examination. Till Tuesday, when she recalls the pain which caused these complex designs. These lines. Upon the arrival of the field, she lays out her design like a warm blanket. It keeps her sensitive back at a fair distance from the prickly, yellow grass. She looks up and feels complete, and at that moment the spiders that she thought were lost under the rubber soles of her feet, creep out from underneath her. And she is covered by these hands. She has always been covered by these hands which she thought lost. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mariasierraflorez at xxx.com Tue Jul 25 11:29:14 2000 From: mariasierraflorez at xxx.com (maria sierra) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:29:14 CEST Subject: No subject Message-ID: <20000725092914.84123.qmail@hotmail.com> unsubscribe sinister ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Tue Jul 25 12:55:49 2000 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:55:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Frotate the hands, chaval, who you walk like a paleto Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69014A3DCC@park_ex> hello babies being a) only just capable of speaking one language and b) fascinated by crappy attempts at universal translators I thought i'd stick the struan spanish interview through babel, with hilarious consequences. I'll not post the whole thing as Maria did such a wonderful job of translating, but here are a couple of choice quotes. "Fold your hands, child, you walk like to peasant' (Frotate the hands, chaval, who you walk like a paleto), its room album, when they have known the popularity (within its debatable elitist circle)... although a little quick-tempered person knows to ripen his cultivated British arrogance with abundant humor... Evidently, I hope that bandage million, but that depends on the public... Sometimes I believe that we look ourselves like The Band Beta" It's like fall lyrics innit, maybe that's Mark E Smith's new job, translator. Also the last paragraph where they talk about Beepster looks a bit strange, I didn't think the band had much to do with the actual running of the label. I wonder who the new jeepster bands will be... maybe it'll be a whole new world of shoegazing bands. To our greek correspondent, Joanna, who mentioned Souvlaki, i believe the Pine Fox was referring to the Slowdive record of that name, although Goinbl Yankagin (to give it it's correct spelling) is a hag eel-based delicacy from the Urals that i fear PF would have difficulty tracking down at any price, even in cosmopolitan Greenwich. Going back once again to Struan's impending 6 months off, my mother's got some hedges that need trimming and a pantry that needs painting if he's at a loose end, she's always saying she could do with a good handy man, and she could recommend him to all her other single/widowed/divorced middle-aged friends, that would keep him occupied, and earn him a bit of beer money too... xoxo CarsmileSteve PS hi to everyone i saw on Saturday in lun-ding, so, what's on this week ;) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DEWHURST at xxx.com Tue Jul 25 13:40:41 2000 From: DEWHURST at xxx.com (DEWHURST at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:40:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister: house of love Message-ID: <80256927.0045AF11.00@d06mta05.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com> Wasn't the girl who sang with the house of love called Andrea something-or-other?. Obviously that's not here real surname. Doesn't sound very German at all. Most people involved in the band went on to lesser things if I remember rightly, such as Levitation, and Chadwick's band, the Madonnas, who I saw once supporting the cranberries. How curiously does the wheel of musical fortune turn... Like his solo stuff, though, although my girlfriend accused him of listening to too much Leonard Cohen at one point. Tsk! Regards to you all Neil x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Jul 25 14:01:58 2000 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:01:58 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Girls and boys of Summer Message-ID: Hello: Last post from the cold shores of Albion,as I just have to rush to catch my evening flight to land me home. Definitely, I take sides with Steady Mike on the tapes issue.Why should I buy a brand new,flashy,meaningless CD when I have a handcrafted tape?Funny all the whirlwind of nostalgia stirred by that foxy pine,as it got here the same day I went to see 'High Fidelity' and felt all mellow and wondered at the same time why one cannot be an indie man/woman,only boy/girl and growing up is hard to do when you have a shoegazing core,sniff. Anyhow,I will be in Benicassim.Probably under a parasol,probably carrying a mobile most of the tine,maybe wearing my dodgy Bowlie tea-shirt saying 'Either be sucessful or be Us' when I was trying to spot some SInisterine for first time.If anyone out of this parish will be down there,you still can reach me.The Who did not think of how far email would take us. Love and electronic sunshine Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Jul 25 14:44:14 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:44:14 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Spot the Sad Bastard Message-ID: <001201bff63e$949d3840$7296243e@itjfvkli> The German bird out of The House of Love was a miss Andrea Heukamp. She left because she was "tired of the constant touring in the latter half of 1987", which must be when I saw them. Nice to hear from Keith again. Genevieve, I think you've been reading too much Harry Potter, mate. Religion: pish plot, great soundtrack. Some time ago, we had another Simon Reynolds piece sent into the list. It was full of big show-off undergraduate words, whereas the House of Love piece wasn't. Why's that then? Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lixibell at xxx.com Tue Jul 25 14:44:16 2000 From: lixibell at xxx.com (alix campbell) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:44:16 GMT Subject: Sinister: puppets! on bicycles! with vultures! and snakes! Message-ID: SNAKES ALIVE! Who remembers those little diamond cake decorations? The jelly ish ones with sugar on them? They were great. Cake toppings are great. I would dream of a day when I could afford a whole tubful. In fact, I still do. I�ve had a busy weeks Finging. Actually, it�s more than a week, but it began with the picnic. What a lovely picnic too. I co coordinated my clothes, and surprised Glam Pam by sporting tights. This is a strange thing to be surprised about. I support tights though. Then I was followed home by some people who stayed a while and listened to Wire with me. Juicy Lucy tried to steal a scooter. Liz Daplyn refused to leave, she loved it so. She knows the score about astral dangers. The day after Ally Cooke appeared from a coach. He went directly to the pub. We followed. Tim Hopkins led us around, pretending he knew where he was. Later that week I wandered round Aldgate with Ally; we saw some joggers. They�d been running for ages. We saw a mosaic of Chris Leonard. We�ll show you the photos one day. Then we went to the pub. Forever. I can�t quite remember what happened over the next few days. The Foxgloves played under a building on Wednesday, they were ace, even if Martin Robinson couldn�t be arsed to stand up. Friday I think I was in a pub again. With the Fisting Alder Sisters. Oh, you sure missed out. Saturday night Lucy barbecued her flatmates, and we all had a feast. Later on in the evening Nicky D got the Quips and Quotes Book out and all we had a bit of a laugh at women drivers. Then he tried to put his foot behind his head. Fun. Sunday I went to Greenwich to scavenge food and climb under hedges. Oh and Pam cooked some stuff too, in case the stuff I found under the hedge wasn�t filling enough. Sez made a marv batch of Yorkshire puddings. Lupe cut hair beautifully. Then I went home. That was the week�s activities. Today though, is boring. Later on I will go to a Euston to meet Starry and Honey and Linda and then to a pub to meet Elena and Paul and other people, then to see a band. The Manganese Files, or something. Last night I did something to my hair involving plaits and stuff, today I look like a cocker spaniel with a perm. Bad. I think I�ll go and catch up with all the email I�ve not read in the last week. lixi ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Tue Jul 25 14:50:50 2000 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:50:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Banners! Balloons! Umbrellas! Message-ID: <20000725135050.24735.qmail@web1705.mail.yahoo.com> Dear you lot... hmm, this is the second time I've started to type "@majordomo.net" instead of "missprint.org"... does that mean anything? I think it means I may be stuck in the past with some kind of mother fixation. Do girls have that? Aren't girls suposed to be jealous of their daddies willies and boys be scared theirs are going to be chopped off? Wierd old kettle of fish, what? I once wrote a very very thick letter to my friend. At the time we'd write down everything and send it to each other via the Royal Postal Thingie, drawings, thoughts, mix tapes. It was rather ideal and special, but anyway. I wrote to him about God, but it had taken me months to pluck up courage to say and think about what I was going write... and now everyone seems to be splurging their theological thoughts. Get thee to a monk-house! There's a song by the June Brides which has a line which goes "god is on my side". It's reassuring to know! Thanks for taping it for me, Tim. I bought the album that's on, and it's good too. Who are the Blue Aeroplanes? I supose I'll find as I just bought a record of theirs. Preston market is the best ever! I also got two House of Love singles and I will tear out your nostril hairs one by one if they are shit - that's too everyone that raved about them - and I also got a rather nice looking Nancy'n'Lee extravaganza. Just what I need when going down to London, a bag of 12" vinyl, old cds and a soggy buttie. Is the song about LIKING the Beatles & The Stones, or about thinking they're STINKING PISH? Guess which one I hope it's about... Peter Miller, I've HEARD about you. I know where you live! Jordi, why didn't you take a photo of Mr Miller? OOh the suspense! The carefluly crafted recluse act! Recluse act...she thinks... who else do we know who plays upon an air of mystique and mystery? YES! Our Struan! It's TRUE! Miller and Struan are one and the same...unless Peter and JORDI are the same. Or... maybe Peter and CAROL SMILIE are the same... it's getting rather freaky now... Lets go Metro! Love, Sarah x ===== Write to Stars de Luxe! http://www.egroups.com/starsdeluxe "luxe, calme, et volupte" ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From knightowl at xxx.net Tue Jul 25 15:52:52 2000 From: knightowl at xxx.net (Knightowl) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:52:52 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister: house of love References: <80256927.0045AF11.00@d06mta05.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com> Message-ID: <006701bff648$067e9360$d81fd718@mountaincable.net> > , although my girlfriend accused him of > listening to too much Leonard Cohen at one point. Tsk! You can't listen to TOO MUCH Leonard Cohen. Ed +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Tue Jul 25 16:15:22 2000 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:15:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Return of the sack... Message-ID: <001a01bff64b$27f7e200$7e95183e@default> Hello Twee Majority... It's been a fair wee while since I bored you all senseless with my aimless and pathetic ramblings. How many of you missed me? Anyone? Anyhoo, it's been a busy little time for moi recently. I've been getting job interview after job interviw, all for one job. The fact they keep callign me back heartens me, but god it's stressful. Speaking of heartens, I've been havign a bit of trouble with the old ticker lately. My doctor doesn't seem to think much of it, but it's damn scary all the same. Such is life, I suppose. I hate doctors. Been using the phone a lot lately too. Oddly, ever since I left education, my life has improved no end. I've made tons of new mates from random chance more than anything else, and things are looking up. They seem to like me, although I'm sure they're all just being nice ;) Whatever happened to Jenowl? I've not heard from you in ages, kiddo, get in touch... Anyone going to see Hefner in the Glasgow Cathouse? I'm a bit scared to go in there cos it's where all the violent mosher kids hang out. Eek! Mobile phones are annoying. I have one, I'll admit, but at least I don't sit on the bus/train/whatever and play with the ringtones constantly to impress people. Grr! The hard kids in my street have been very very violent towards me lately. I keep getting chased home when I get off the bus. It's not nice at all, esp. cos most of them are smaller and weaker than me. Everyone wish me luck in my job hunt - I'll know on Thursday if I've got the job or not... I await my hate-mail with interest... xx --Jason Andreas Guardian of the Obvious ICQ: 45821217 AIM: RadioJase +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Tue Jul 25 18:44:33 2000 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:44:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The self-referential society (do not read if you value your sanity) Message-ID: <397DD201.85C187D9@cs.strath.ac.uk> The spirit of rock 'n' roll is alive and well, and it is dedicated to the first Sugercubes album. Where were YOU in '89? Have you ever dedicated an ideaological way of life to such a transitory item as a pop record? It seems churlish to me, but then perhaps I am not sufficiently imbued with the ghosts of The Camden Falcon. Or even The Spreadeagle, stretching the point somewhat, at such times as certain unknown (but no less - or, perhaps perversely - more important) pop icons have graced it's hallowed bar stools with their messy-haired presence. Perhaps pop should not be dedicated to aspects of life, instead we should postulate the theory that pop music IS life itself. Every intonation of the picking hand fires the imagination, especially when said player is of sufficient talent to rise above even his or her band-mates (good as they may be) and lift otherwise pleasant songs to stratospheres as yet uncharted. My God, he plays it BETTER LIVE! Contained within even the most basic of lyrical movements, something will stir the belly of one small boy, who watches, and dreams, or doesn't dream, but does. What was the first song YOU ever wrote? Dreams are never meant to be real, though. He dreamt of adoring crowds and all he got was this lousy quiff. Waiting for the more important to soundcheck. Going nowhere to most folks, travelling at light-speed to others. Perahps they cancel each other out and he ends up back where he started, confused, but happy. And with the memories. Where were YOU in '99? Some people even find love through pop music. He met a girl. She moved away. He wrote a song. He went to find her. He would have swum the ocean, but a plane was more convenient, and much less tiring. They flaunted their imperfections at each other, and were happy for a while. Some things ARE more important. A snapshot of his life was all he ever gave them, but the flash didn't wake them up, it was the music that did that. The music of someone he loved. They went to the park. Someone, somewhere, caught a bus. Alasdair Cook is out at the moment. Please leave a message after the tone. Beeep... xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mariasierraflorez at xxx.com Tue Jul 25 23:50:12 2000 From: mariasierraflorez at xxx.com (maria sierra) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:50:12 CEST Subject: Sinister: Not a brilliant begining... Message-ID: <20000725215012.84638.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello! erm... I'm just writing to tell that I didn't want to unsubscribe myself from the list. The thing is that I always get twice every single post and I was wondering what i coudl do to receive just one copy of each e-mail. I thought that perhaps if I unsubscribe once I would get only one copy of every post and when I did it I sent the e-mail to the address of the list... That's the reason why you got that stupid post. Sorry about that! I hope you won't be ungry with me because of that... I will never unsubscribe from the list! Sarah wrote: Peter Miller, I've HEARD about you. I know where you live! Jordi, why didn't you take a photo of Mr Miller? OOh the suspense! The carefluly crafted recluse act! Recluse act...she thinks... who else do we know who plays upon an air of mystique and mystery? YES! Our Struan! It's TRUE! Miller and Struan are one and the same...unless Peter and JORDI are the same. Or... maybe Peter and CAROL SMILIE are the same... it's getting rather freaky now... I could never stop laughing if Peter was mister Jordi :-))))))))!!!!!! Does he dance the 'sardana' and drinks 'cava'? Is he a Barcelona supporter? Perhaps Peter and Gaspart are the same... But I don't believe our lovely Stuart lives in Catalunya! maria ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Wed Jul 26 07:03:32 2000 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:03:32 PDT Subject: Sinister: I saw those twins from the cover yesterday Message-ID: <20000726060332.40275.qmail@hotmail.com> Yes, I did. Those two girls played here in Finland with their band Mum (the letter u in the middle has this funny thing above it), and they very pretty good. Ugh, but you don't want to hear about it. Picture the scene. Me standing there, drinking my beer. Remembering that Mum are at the same record label in Iceland as are Sigur Ros: Bad Taste Records. Ooh, discovery numero one. Then my girlfrind (howdy) saying: "Hey, aren't those the girls from the cover? And Bowlie?" Well spank my arse and chew my erect nipples: Yes they were THOSE girls, and I couldn't help myself. I continually stared at them the whole evening through. Now THAT was weird. Not me staring at them (I stare at beatiful people all the time, until Maria hits my kneecaps with an iron bar so that it really, really, really hurts), but the idea that I went to see the band without even knowing that those twins would be there. And hey, all you sexy boys out there, who think of picking them up and becoming engaged to either of them: forget it, They looked so good you'd never have the nerve to go and talk to them. I thought about that for a second: going up to them and saying that I've seen them before, then trying to be funny, possibly grinning at my joke, then asking them if they've had fun here and... then fucked off. I've always wondered this: Do people actually get something out of the fact that they've talked to this bassist or that singer? We know that groupies do it just for the fact that they get a kick out of saying that they've shagged with someone "WHO'S IN THAT BAND, YOU KNOW?" Maybe people who (just) want to talk to the members of the band are groupies on a mental level: they love it when they know they've talked to that singer "FROM MY BAND, YOU KNOW?" And then they can tell their friends and write to various newsgroups and mailinglists that they've chatted with the singer, "who was really nice, by the way, and did I mention it was so great, he's really down to earth and..." Spare me. But hey, you don't get syphilis from being a mental groupie, so that's nice. @--->--- Jace "I'll Have To Get Myself A New Nick Since This One Isn't ThaT Good" le PetitE ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Wed Jul 26 11:26:02 2000 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Jones?=) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 03:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Odds and Roddds Message-ID: <20000726102602.29836.qmail@web113.yahoomail.com> Attention Earth-Humans, Though I split my days roughly equally between trips to Rome lobbying for the canonisation of Terry Scott, lengthy spells in a psychotropic trance under three inches of gravel close to the A433 outside Cirencester (in future perhaps I should actually take the time to *read* the small print in my employment contract), and bursts of near-silent communication with Anti-Climax (the young anarcho-gamelan trio in my charge; they're keen but messy), this list has not completely vaporised in my head-chamber. Indeed, twice in the last week my ears have been singed by fanciful mention of my God-given name. Although, in one instance I was implicitly accused of writing something I didn't write, and in the other comments were attributed to me which I never made, I take this as a sign to write again. Press [Delete] now. Last night, in a green room, I met a man who used to be in Genesis when they 'good'*. I say 'met', but really I just gazed at his (bronzed, bulky, grey-shaven) neck for a few seconds and then brushed lightly against his waistcoat. I was in a fix - ask the WOMADic one about his Phil Silvers tribute or just plead for some of his cash? Ultimately, I did neither - shuffling out of that humid box with a stolen bottle of Becks. (* I'm using 'good' in a deeply relative sense. I know nothing of the Archangel's pre-1975 work, but I cannot conceive of anything worse than Buster's back-catalogue. I am prepared to have my preconceptions challenged here, however.) Miles above, on the lunar surface, three men and one woman had just breezed, crawled, stomped, sashayed and glittered through 27 Love Songs. And an oldie. Oil is too small a word. We call it liquid engineering. In other news, I see airy dismissal of the Later 'Lab has become de rigueur in these parts. I'm not having it. Bathe in the moonglow of "The Emergency Kisses", let "Escape Pod..." comb concrete dust out of your hair, gambol up staircases of sparkly wax to "One Note Samba", plunge headlong into hot souffle with "The Flower Called Nowhere" and hip-grind yourself into trouble wiv da law alongside "Anonymous Collective" and *then* come back and tell me you only need Boob Bubblegum Disko in yr life. No shirking. Elsewhere, a boy called Brown opened his closet and the skeleton of Green Gartside fell out. No embarrassing bag of bones this. Step forth increasingly regular list contributor S. Reynolds (1988), to tell us of "eerie spaces, opaque, dazzling surfaces, asphyxiating sweetness" with a caveat that "beauty can be terrorising". Why isn't this stuff taught in schools? "Because it's rubbish", bellows a sturdy character in a 1954 World Cup t-shirt. Unless I've been skimming posts even more than usual (and I have), I don't think there's been over-much examination of the brief, swimmy, piano-led instrumental which shares track-space with "Judy Slap" on the ex-hit single (CD version). I think Chris Jones mentioned it, to a deafening wall of indifference. I think it's comfortably the best thing on there. Does this have a name of its own? Shall we give it one? "Sticky Farrago". "Grief Jollies". "The Path To Rushmere St Andrew Is Gloomy And Unyielding". I know you can do better. I'm going where a lost cause can be found... Mike x. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sophiesea at xxx.com Wed Jul 26 11:38:23 2000 From: sophiesea at xxx.com (sophie harris) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:38:23 GMT Subject: Sinister: enchantment under the sea Message-ID: morning stargazers and pop pickers heres a thing that might interest some of you - new september Select has a two page 'spread' of our very own (ahem) mister murdoch. 's touted on the front as a b&s interview as in 'stu breaks silence' kinda thing - and i flicked through fast my fingers could carry me, through the bizcuity 182 rubbish and the like - and found........... the max the car article! the very same! and not brand and spanking new feecha at all. i was utterly disappointed, and i cant help but think its a bit shit that select can't pull off their own feature, hmmmmm. *however* - accompanying the piece is a *looooverly* grainy winsomish pic of struan in caff type place, and then a little insert pic of stru at the wheel (ooh upper arms....) looking tres dapper. golly, we've just changed the cd to a lady called 'vashti bunyan'! and nadja and robert are playing the 'would you rather shag....' game and the choice is (splutter) bill wyman or ringo starr. horrid. we all settled for ringo, reluctantly. vashti is quite lovely - ever so pretty and wearing a little scarf and an apron, standing in a cottage doorway. 'ccording to the sleevey notes, she was 'ejected from art school in 1964 for failing to choose between writing songs and painting' aaww - she dallied with decca for a bit, then set off roaming round england in a horse drawn cart - yay. i thoroughly recommend vashti. actually she reminds me a bit of the songs madeleine used to sing in bagpuss, only not quite so annoying. anyhoo, those are my wednesday tuppeny bits - hope today brings you all sparkly joy, and happy listening. lovelovelove xs p.s (they do seem to be all the rage just now) - i say aye to the house of love. that guy chadwick is a horror and looks like a rectangle, *but* destroy the heart is special, and goes very nicely after mbv's strawberry wine on a tape... however, my 1st h.o.l (the one with christine) is on vinyl, so i cant play it, and my butterfly album is on tape, and it's snapped. so i may be listening with rose tinted ears.... pps (they are nice aren't they?) another aye to more londenny outings - twood be splendid :) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keshi at xxx.it Wed Jul 26 13:08:14 2000 From: keshi at xxx.it (francesca) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:08:14 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Sunny Scotland is waiting for me Message-ID: <001101bff6fa$6aa33140$10741997@a07195> hi, today I saw a friend (it's since June that I haven't seen her). so I'm really happy, but now we all go on holiday and till September we won't meet again.... sigh talking about my holidays I'll go to Scotland. I'll be there on Saturday :) so I was writing to have some advice about places to visit, gigs, etctec... (sorry for the list abuse) so if you can mail me giving some information, oh I'll love you forever :) byebye (my summer wasting is calling me) francesca +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From angel_blackwell at xxx.com Wed Jul 26 14:31:27 2000 From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (adventures as an angel) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:31:27 EDT Subject: Sinister: watch out for that tree... Message-ID: well, this angel has completely lost his wings. ugh, had a bad accident on friday involving gin, a shoe, a staircase, and my poor face. punishment for drinking like a fool is supposed to be hangovers, but i don't get them. this was one helluva hangover my dears. my mom saw me, and even after my one eye opened a little, is convinced that i was beaten up. she can't believe that her little sonny jim could possibly be at fault...i made a little girl cry when i went to the doctors...my friends laughed at that, i was nearly in tears myself. i took a picture so that work didn't think i was playing hookey...now there's a body parts page pic...(kidding.) well, i finally got my b&s mugs. i gave one to my bestest friend, cuz well, i've been stocking him up with b&s...i got's him his box set, gave him one of my badges...lent him my FYHC (which i finally got back.) i like beyond the sunrise, i think i keep stating that. but upon listening to TBWTAS today, the song i can't stand came on...a space boy dream...ugh...but, anyway, mugs is good...tea and cookies... ummm...hello to matt, debs, and diana...it's boring here...i miss you... i'm reading glamorama at the moment, mr easton ellis is fun to read, american psycho was a blast, but to read other fiction afterwards takes some getting used to...well, unless is davis foster wallace or something... a. The crudity and sparness of life is to be found in public lavatories." -Leoni Orton-Barnett, sister of Joe Orton. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mark_e_hester at xxx.com Wed Jul 26 15:14:43 2000 From: mark_e_hester at xxx.com (Mark Hester) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:14:43 BST Subject: Sinister: The empire strikes back Message-ID: <20000726141443.46891.qmail@hotmail.com> Last week I went to a gig by Holy Roman Empire, who are my favourite Oxford band at the moment. The felt-tip pen drawing seems to be more low-key these days. The first time I saw them the singer, Ste, had drawn a heart on his chest with black marker pen. As I was watching from a fair distance I thought that he either had a heart-shaped chest wig or had shaved his chest hair into the shape of a heart. This time he limited himself to a few red streaks on his arm. But, "arkk!", cymbal player Martin has abandoned his cymbal (apparently it was too much of a hazard when it fell into the audience) and now just poses around behind a keyboard draped in leopard skin, though he still waves the stick about. More about them on http://www.bejo.co.uk/lpeach/html/hrehome.htm, if you're interested. The gig was also notable in that I met a former colleague who told me that the computer system I used to look after had crashed and they had to have an crisis meeting to try to sort it out. I couldn't resist emitting the kind of YAAAAY that only someone in possession of a redundancy cheque and P45 can muster in such situations. Then on the way home I met an old housemate who told me that her college won't let her have her degree until she pays them the five thousand quid she owes them. I suspect that this will entail a very large number of shifts in the Quod Bar. "Who are the Blue Aeroplanes?" asked Sarah. The Blue Aeroplanes are unique. Gerard Langley is more of a poet than a singer and has a very particular vocal style which is complemented by rodney allen's more conventional singing. IMHO, Beatsongs was their best album, with Rough Music a close second, though Swagger is very good as well. Their latest is called (I think) Cavalier, though I haven't heard it. Has anyone else....? Mark. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordiet at xxx.com Wed Jul 26 17:00:50 2000 From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano) Date: 26 Jul 2000 17:00:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Some help from Berlin listees + my familiar relation with Peter Miller Message-ID: <20000726160050.23729.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From david at xxx.uk Wed Jul 26 19:07:29 2000 From: david at xxx.uk (David White) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:07:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "Dance all night like you're a soul boy (or girl)..." Message-ID: Hello folks, Here's an email that I got sent to me at www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk "Just saw your website & I thought I'd drop you a line as in a couple of weeks (4th Aug.) Chris Geddes & Andy Symington aka Andy Divine (B & S sleeve designer and gig DJ) are DJ'ing @ my club 'Beatnik Butterfly' in London. The club runs once a month at The Garage in Islington and we use the upstairs function room, not surprisingly called 'Upstairs @ the Garage' and it's very small cosy and nice. The club holds only 150 people which makes it a very inimate affair and very easy going. Andy and Chris will be playing for around 3 hours after the guest band for the evening have performed who are called 'Casino' - and they're very good. Beautiful harmonies and uplifting 60's fuelled mod pop tunes. This will work very nicely with Chris & Andy's set which will probably mix Northern Soul with Funk, Psychedelia & 60's pop gems. The club starts @ 9pm and is £5 before 10.30, £6 after. Nearest tube = Highbury & Islington (Victoria Line)." That's all for now, hope this is of interest to somebody (and if you do go, tell them where you heard it first!) Cheers, Dave david at djwhite47.freeserve.co.uk www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From scorn-pie at xxx.uk Wed Jul 26 15:19:37 2000 From: scorn-pie at xxx.uk (Viks) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:19:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: insect repellent recommendations welcome Message-ID: <000c01bff73a$e0350c40$3ac428c3@d.adam> Really. Only good ones though. A friend tried one and instead of being repelled all these flies were attracted to her and then died when they stuck to her legs. Like a living fly paper. Urggh. Anyway, sorry, how rude of me, Howdy all, how are you? Living in a place so un-B&S as I do, and still not having a dream about them, dispite all that cheese before bedtime, I never usually have anything relevant to write. However! scary thing... I was wearing a badge I bought from a Salako gig (3 for £1. Bargain.) It had a pretty picture of a happy smiley Jeepster bee on it. Anyway, evil big ugly monster of a bumble bee flew along (probably from hell, I bet it ate other bees for breakfast), making the same noise as a angry lawn mower and landed on my shirt. I don't know much about interbee relationships but I swear this thing, dispite no obvious come-on from my badge, tried to shag Jeepster bee. It wouldn't go away either, so for 10 minutes I had to watch Evil the Bee have it's way with a piece of plastic. I think he may have been repressed or something, perhaps the badge was the equivalent of an inflatable doll. See? scary. still not particularly relevant, Viks. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Wed Jul 26 22:04:19 2000 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:04:19 EDT Subject: Sinister: Um....Falkirk. Outside the bike shop in the High Street Message-ID: <7b.759eae0.26b0ac53@aol.com> Hi kids! Remember me? Oh. Just re-subbed a few weeks ago, and was SO relieved not to have to sit in the nursery ( Cheers Paul! ) Decided that the vast volume of mail was getting on top of me, so I've gone digest this time. Just to let you know that your messages over the last few weeks have warmed this old cynic's heart. Now, that subject line. If you're the girl who pointed to my B&S t-shirt and later exclaimed 'I wonder if he's on Sinister?' Sorry, it really wasn't meant to be the ignore treatment. I had just left the gym and was in no fit state to talk to anyone, and by the time 'Sinister' had entered my brain, I was at the steeple. Felt like a complete bastard for the rest of the night for not saying 'Hi' Steve s xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From no_surprises_21 at xxx.com Wed Jul 26 22:12:45 2000 From: no_surprises_21 at xxx.com (Chris Heil) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 21:12:45 GMT Subject: Sinister: sorry to use the list for this Message-ID: I was wondering if anyone could help me get a copy of the RUSHMORE movie soundtrack. Preferably a cd copy. It appears that the record stores here don't keep soundtracks to not-so-popular year old movies in stock. Unfortunately for me. I'm willing to trade, even 2 for 1, I have many things..including B&S stuff. Please email me, off the list of course...sorry for using this precious list for this. Take care all. BYE! Chris ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kpc98c at xxx.UK Wed Jul 26 21:50:08 2000 From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 21:50:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Dangly Tree Message-ID: <200007262050.VAA14708@missprint.org> Hello! This mail is deemed to fail.. I'm writing this e-mail @ an internet cafe, and the clock countdown says that I have 14 minutes left, but I'm going to be extra naughty today and bend the 15 minute rule to my advantage :-)) I really just wanted to write to say that, yay, I haven't been sacked! Which I guess is probably a good thing, BLUDDY GRATE, even! To add compliments to non-injury (?) I HAVE JUST BEEN PAID :))))) A whole month's wages! I think today is a "Hooray to the business world!" Even the Internet Cafe is being kind to me today, they played REM and Radiohead rather than Macy Gray! Yay. I guess I should balance the yayness out with some boos now.. er, I can't actually think of any boos.. I think I'll just balance it off with some BOOZE instead!!! I think the lack of that extra 1 minute is the reason for the obvious pooness of this post! All that AND no B&S contents.. I hope there are more sinister partays lined up soon. Flowers and Redbulls! Ken P.S.: I can think of some boos now.. the District Line trains are poo! P.P.S.: B&S contents.. sitting on District Line trains for a hobby is sad! ====================================================================== Girl in the snow, where do you go, to find someone who will do, to tell someone all the truth before it kills you? They listen to your crazy laugh, before you hang a right, and disappear from sight. - Belle & Sebastian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jules at xxx.cx Thu Jul 27 01:28:33 2000 From: jules at xxx.cx (Julie) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:28:33 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Um....Falkirk. Outside the bike shop in the High Street Message-ID: <000f01bff761$98e201a0$240315ac@udrtg.80laf.cyberbuilding.com> This SSharp5210 lad said: > >Just re-subbed a few weeks ago, and was SO relieved not to have to sit in the >nursery ( Cheers Paul! ) Who's Paul? *blink* I don't know anyone named Paul. Listmum honey sure isn't Paul. I don't know what you're talking about. xoxo Julie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sweetie_something at xxx.com Thu Jul 27 11:50:04 2000 From: sweetie_something at xxx.com (sweetie something) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:50:04 GMT Subject: Sinister: Um....Falkirk. Outside the bike shop in the High Street Message-ID: <20000727105004.84975.qmail@hotmail.com> sinister it was me!! it was me that u, steve, passed outside the bike shop! i was gonna run after u to say hi but...er...i didnt :/ so if u see me in falkirk again (u can spot me by my piercings and hair- its ooneek u know) its more than likely u will stop and say hi please :) anyway SUMMER!!!! and so far in dennyland weve had LOADSA SUN!!!!! :) nearly every day so far of the hols i have cycled to falkirk so i am getteing quite a fair tan :) uuuunfortunately and this is also the reason i am down denny 2day i was at the dr :( bcoz i have recently discovered that i get prickly heat :( and i get to walk around all rashy and itchy fun so ive got pills now no more drinkin 4 me oh woe anyway so much to say such limited TIME aha.... probably till my modem is fixed your friend always sweetie xox words of wisdom come 2 those who wait but dont wait too long or ull probably forget them again ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrewt at xxx.com Thu Jul 27 14:49:16 2000 From: andrewt at xxx.com (Andrew Tracey) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:49:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Have you booked a table, sir? Message-ID: So , no B+S tour then? I wouldn't moan if I were you. By the next time they feel the need to do some concerts they won't have to tour the country. They'll just set up the gear in Isobel's front room and beam the concert direct to our retinas and eardrums via the Internet. It'll be dead clever. Moving on to acts who *do* occasionally venture, blinking fervently, into the big bad world, I went to see the Magnetic Fields at Ronnie Scott's in Birmingham last night. (That's industrial wasteland Birmingham in England, not the American one in, er, America). Ronnie Scott's is an odd place for a gig. People who have paid their tenner to watch the gig huddle around the back of the room straining to hear whilst corporate people sit at tables in front of the stage chatting whilst pretty waitresses bring them plates of food. Wasn't the French Revolution supposed to put a stop to all this? Anyway, Stephin was on fine form, starting with quite a few new songs before hitting the 69 Love Songs motorway, which left me with a nice warm glow, which I then greatly enhanced by leaving my departure for the last train out of Brum until what I calculated to be the last minute (start of third song in encore) and then running like a mad thing to the station. I worked up quite a sweat, I can tell you. A round up of other things: 'Pink' Floyd Patterson was good in his prime and if Syd hadn't left, he'd have beaten Sonny Liston in 1962. All religions are crap, apart from the ones that use chocolate in their initiation ceremonies. I saw the two girls from the cover of FISHYCLAP in Kwik Save, looking lost. I asked them if they were OK and they said they wanted to get back to Iceland. Delicate Irony - A Stagecoach executive has resigned after being arrested by vice squad cops posing as male prostitutes. Search the archives to see what we think of Stagecoach. Broadcast Ends. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Thu Jul 27 14:48:10 2000 From: hewits at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:48:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sinisterine Spotting Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69014A3DD5@park_ex> Steve said: If you're the girl who pointed to my B&S t-shirt and later exclaimed 'I wonder if he's on Sinister?' Sorry, it really wasn't meant to be the ignore treatment Sweetie said: it was me!! it was me that u, steve, passed outside the bike shop! i was gonna run after u to say hi Small world after all, and made me think of an experience i had yesterday whilst attempting to flat hunt in Oxford. Sitting in the housing rights office i noticed a bloke walk past with floppy longish hair and dark rimmed glasses and what i was pretty certain was a B&S t-shirt. About half an hour later we passed him on Magdalen (it's pronounced maudlin, you know) bridge and it *was* a B&S t-shirt and me and meg giggled to ourselves. Are you out there? *Steve looks around more importantly, do you have a one-bedroomed flat to let?? In fact, does anyone??? or i'm going to end up living opposite the Park End club in a flat with no cooker or anything!!! Sorry, bit drama queen there... I had an dream i had an e-mail from llaura llllew this morning, but when i got to work i didn't... Ally Cook, get more sleep, you're obviously still delirious from your week in the big smoke. Ms Lixi, thank you for reminding me about Nick trying to put his foot behind his head, I had blanked the episode from my mind. To all the pop quizzers out there, I think we've nearly compiled a complete set of answers, I'll dig out all the mails and send you the ones I (and my merry band of helpers) haven't got yet, with special kudos (still no prizes) to anyone who can get the last few. Once we've got everything, I'll send you all the answers, innit. xoxo CarsmileSteve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mindmonkey1 at xxx.com Thu Jul 27 17:40:17 2000 From: mindmonkey1 at xxx.com (ineffable) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: return of faith Message-ID: <31489953.964716017408.JavaMail.imail@patti.excite.com> Dear All, Apologies for not posting to the list for the last few weeks. I had a bit of a loss of faith a while back but rather than 'unsubscribe' I thought I would voluntarily 'return to the nursery' - read and say nothing for a while and see what happens. I have this image, that may well be wrong, that the bulk of the list are white, middle class, fey, educated, romantic individuals. But I also began reading a lot of stuff on the list about what one can or cannot post and was a bit alarmed - I thought "have the twee become fascists?" and then I remembered that some of the Nazi's supporters were these middle class, folky agrarians who had rather strong beliefs about stuff and I panicked and bailed out for a while.... Now I am reassured to see that the blessed reign of liberalism has once again taken hold and things are more relaxed again. Although I did notice a post from 'freind of honey' telling us all off - which was kind of good/bad - is liberal oppression better than any other or am I just missing something? Facetious/pedantic point - if we are not 'allowed' to discuss list content on the list then how do we reply to one another's postings? Is each mail meant to be a discrete fragment of consciousness unrelated to thatb posted prior? A community discussion cannot help but discuss what has gone on within it. Again, I may be being an idiot here... So anyway I think you are all marvellous. Perhaps all the students have returned to the internet or something. I even began thinking - perhaps because I was born when we last had a labour government I am constitutionally different to all these 'Thatcher's children..' What else can I tell you? I think that the version of 'The State I am In' on the EP is better than that on Tigermilk. You all know that I like 'Electronic Renaissance'. Why do we not talk about 'we Rule the School' (or whatever it is called) - surely this is their greatest song in the world ever. I'm not much of a classical buff but isn't there some sort of Bach theme running through it? I am happy to be corrected on this - all I know about classical music is from TV commercials. Have converted my sister to B+S - Tigermilk as b'day present and tape of 'best of the rest' for her to take to Corfu to listen to whilst sun bathing. My flatmate is threatening to kill me if I keep playing B+S - he seems immune. I fear he has no taste as he even bought a 'Deep Forest' album back in the early '90s. Truly ghastly. To our American brethren - is the X-men movie any good? I used to read the comics when a child and thought they were marvellous and am excited about the film. I do think that Canadians are cool in reponse to a listee wishing he was from Canada. I have the honour of working with two people from Canada who are both spangly and drink lots of Martini and have 'lime dash' in their lager. Does anyone remember spangles? I am not a great one for reading the lyrics to songs inside the album cover (too influenced by REM when young) and thought that 'Chalet Lines' was about the rape of a male which was why I thought it was quite an interesting song - I presumed 'the test' referred to HIV or something and it was only when I heard about the vomitting I cottoned on.... I think my version would have been better. Confession - I too found the 'Pink Floyd' discussions rather dull - I have never knowingly listened to a 'Pink floyd' (although I guess I would recognise a few if I heard them) and only learned what 'prog rock'was a few weeks ago. Sounds awful - although I did mention if Bach was in a B+S song.... But the point is that a lot of people did like it or find it interesting judged by the amount of mail the list received on related topics - surely any issue can only be judged on similar terms? If people mail about it, it should be on the list. A sort of ideological survival of the fittest. Those of us who do not like the subject in question just ride it out. I am off to Oxford tomorrow night for a Tapas party and Saturday am back in God's own S. London for BBQ of party-crazy Brazilians I work with. Should be fun. I enjoyed my experience of the London picnic. So there we are. Keep up the good work. I am going to retire home and drink icy Absolut this evening and perhaps listen to some music... MM _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Rickbozard at xxx.com Thu Jul 27 20:58:00 2000 From: Rickbozard at xxx.com (Rickbozard at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:58:00 EDT Subject: Sinister: save yourselves from the fiery depths Message-ID: <200007271956.UAA25641@missprint.org> the good lord will strike you down for defaming him. That's right, all you satan loving communists will burn in the fiery pits of hell. What, you think that jehovah doesn't see the sort of blasphemy you've all posted on the internet. Well you're wrong! God can read your thoughts, and he'll punish you for them. Save yourselves while you still can. Devote all your waking hours to reading the bible in its entirity. Fill your dreams with thoughts of christ, not the sinful idol worship of belle and sebastian. God will save you if you only embrace his word. If not may almighty jesus strike you with a large stick. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From knightowl at xxx.net Thu Jul 27 22:55:59 2000 From: knightowl at xxx.net (Knightowl) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:55:59 -0400 Subject: Sinister: save yourselves from the fiery depths References: <200007271956.UAA25641@missprint.org> Message-ID: <007a01bff815$d7ed0660$d81fd718@mountaincable.net> > the good lord will strike you down for defaming him. Oh how utterly passe. God, if you hadn't heard, is a woman and a vegetarian. Your name is on the list for the down elevator simply for eating at MacDonald's. Ba-bye. Otherwise I found your post quite funny. Just what pray tell are the exact definitions of fey and twee incidently? Those words come up a lot here. I have the general idea but want to be sure. "Please don't let them make me be a monkey butler", Ed +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csf at xxx.com Thu Jul 27 23:27:42 2000 From: csf at xxx.com (Colin Ferguson) Date: 27 Jul 2000 22:27:42 -0000 Subject: Sinister: none Message-ID: <20000727222742.1722.qmail@mail.claramail.com> I am very annoyed. A few days ago, I dropped CD4 from the Peel Slowly and See VU box set. I leaned back to pick it up and the leg of my chair crushed it. I am sooo pissed off. I don't know if I can get the disc separately. It was the disc wiht the Velvet Underground album on the (1968 one), and it's was in it's 'Closet mix' version, which you can't normally get on CD, so even if I have to buy it separatly and lose all the non-slabum stuff that was on the disc, I still can't get it in it's 'proper', original form. That's realy the leas of my worries at the minuet, but it's all i really feel comfortable talking about. Aw well. Sorry there was no B&S content, but VU are namechecked in Expectations, so they you go. Bye -- Colin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrew at xxx.net Thu Jul 27 23:23:39 2000 From: andrew at xxx.net (Andrew Nicol) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:23:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: yer actual b&s news Message-ID: hello. *b&s news* belle and sebastian are among the nominations for the nordoff-robbins hard rock new talent award. b&s - hard rock. who'd have thunk it? well, okay, so the hard rock refers to the chain of grotty cafes (sorry julie). also nominated are arab strap, the delgados, geneva, idlewild, justin, and mogwai. there's a phone number to call to vote, but bugger me if i don't know what it is. *more b&s news* mr. alasdair gray, author and illustrator, is collaborating with the belle-ends on a book containing the lyrics of the first three albums, along with illustrations. when this will appear is anybody's guess - mr. gray took more than fifteen years to write his most recent work, "book of prefaces". *even more b&s news* okay, not really. but with the imminent death of napster, those pre-b&s corduroy hipsters spinal tap have come to the rescue. visit www.tapster.com to download their comeback single, "back from the dead" (in Doubly!). from the press release - lead guitarist nigel tufnell - "one of the brilliant things about tapster is that there's only one song to choose from". lead singer david st hubbins - "we're putting it on the internet because we want the people who really care that we're still alive to have it in their hands and their machinery and then in their ears". i just realised i last posted in december '98. terrifically prolific, me. goodbye. andy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Thu Jul 27 23:37:18 2000 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:37:18 GMT Subject: Sinister: My Name Is Laura Llew and I need a Subject Line Message-ID: Wow! I must say that for a few days there the posts on the list were STELLAR. With a deluge* of Laura Llew poems who could go wrong? I would like to thank James A ThorninMyLey and Steve "laura doesn^�t make my dreams come true" Hewitty for their efforts. It was perfectly acceptable to use Libra in the poem since I am indeed a Libra (and you thought my sign was 'no tresspassing'). Jim "I^�m so hip I have trouble seeing over my pelvis" Gilmer also joined in the poetry fun with: "Laura Llew, who makes my eyes water like dew, I shall always be true, to my little llew poo-poo shadoo." I^�ll give you a moment for all of you to regain your composure since I know you^�re all weepy from such depth and beauty of it all. Can this list ever stick with a good thread? Noooooo. Who^�s this God person anyway and where does he get off taking up all my air time on Sinister? I^�ve got some good intentions and I^�m in the mood to pave! Actually, I^�m going to behave myself and keep out of the religion debate. It happens every few months anyway so I could always remark next time it comes around. Perhaps, I should hush before I get struck by lightening. Before I do so though I will leave you with a poem since I asked for some myself - Roses are red Violets are blueish If it weren^�t for Jesus We^�d all be Jewish. Again, I^�ll give you a moment to get yourselves together.. .... I want to apologize for my last post which was of epic of proportions. Its was a tome whose length even rivaled my kid sister^�s fabled Christmas List of 87 (cross indexed and foot note for user friendly capabilities) and I'm quite sorry. I always go over but never to 13K. You know something is too long when Pine Fox** makes a comment about it^�s lengthiness. I must also try and make amends for an obvious blunder where I said the line "do something pretty while you can" was from I Could Be Dreaming instead of the obvious We Rule The School. I knew this. However, I^�ve been thinking about I Could Be dreaming a lot lately. This is definitely not a "twee" song with lyrics like - - "If I kill him now, who^�s going to miss him?", - "Do you want to do it now? Outside the butchers with a knife and a bike chain?" (evil lyrics followed by this innoncent La La La as if he were some vertically challenged smurf of blue), - "A family's like a loaded gun. You point it in the wrong direction someone's going to get killed.^� (how true is that?) Of course, We Rule The School is nice too. You can^�t go wrong with a song that mentions "NC" (even if it isn^�t referring to North Carolina. rah!). My most recent mishearing: I just realized that in Photo Jenny that when I was hearing "Get that Bitch some chairs" it really says "Get some fish and chips". Whoops. I just saw a picture of Mick Cooke for the first time. What a cutie! Is he single? hehe Random Sinister Thought: I always thought the only thing I would get out of dating guys a few years older than me was some shoddy mix tapes with crap music on it like Peter Cetera. I just discovered that bad taste wasn't permeating in that age group. However, the only ones who seemed to escape live in England or on the west coast or they're moving to the west coast soon. Figures. you only think you're at the end, Laura "An idea isn't responsible for the people who believe in it." -- Don Marquis *- Yes, Bill. 2 is a deluge **- Pinefoxxy, remember you^�re mine. I^�m getting a leash and tags made too. PS- Miss Lucy. Calling Miss Lucy. I wrote you an e-mail which included words like "ball pean hammer" and "hive of bees" which I might have sent to the wrong address since I^�m quite slow on keeping up with people. If you didn^�t get it, I must say that it was brilliant, clever, and insightful. Anyway, I just didn^�t want you to think I was neglecting you. PPS - Mad Shoutz out to the new NC homeboyzzz on the list - Mattwho in Charlotte and that Katie Holmes Stalker on the coast, Brian. PPPS - Lawrence "The Milkman" Milkensen, I thank you kindly for using a song lyric that has been haunting me for weeks as your subject title in your post the other week. What do you think of my athesist tracts? And don^�t worry - I still remember my debt to you. PPPPS-- Thanks to the Jonathan Edwards of Sinister, Rickbozard for that lovely sermon. I feel like a sinner in the hands of an angry God already. It^�s always nice to get in touch with my puritan side. PPPPPS -- I^�ve only heard one Snow Patrol song and I was really digging it. Any fans wanna suggest any albums to me or better yet make me a mix tape? C^�mon, I^�m a poor college.. um graduate. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leesa at xxx.com Fri Jul 28 00:29:54 2000 From: leesa at xxx.com (Lisa & Lee) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:29:54 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Howdy from Texas and welcome to my first post! Message-ID: <004a01bff822$95d4f000$71928cd8@Pleesa> Howdy from Texas, y'all Sinisterines! I am newly out of the nursery and also new to the wonders of Belle and Sebastian. Pardon me whilst I swoon over this band! I am in love with their music in a way that, quite honestly, I hadn't really expected to be with a band ever again. (My other faves are David Sylvian, Cocteau Twins, Tori Amos and of course lotsa good Brit pop!) I knew *of* B&S for a year or so, but hadn't found the time to give them a listen. Actually, the movie "High Fidelity" reminded me to check them out, so the next time I went into my friendly lil' indie record shoppe, 33 degrees, I gave "fishy clap" a listen. I was, and remain, smitten. Over the next few days, I felt the compulsion to hunt down and purchase all of their catalogue. Now's the time for mugs and teeshirts, methinks. Hope this isn't too rambling...surely you've time for someone who's getting to know what you've all known for years now, the subtle hybrid of pop folk wonderment that is B&S. I must also mention how much I'm enjoying the well crafted posts on this here listie-poo. Reading narratives about folks' lives in England and Scotland, Canada, New York, etc. is always a plus, as these are some of my favourite places on the planet. Nice to hear from people who actually get to live in them! Once I've been on the list a bit longer (just a few weeks so far) I will be able to reference names and such , but for now I'm just trying to keep up with the threads of conversation. Picnics sound like a great way to celebrate our superior aesthetic senses. Anyone ever think of one in Texas? We should probably wait for the summer to be over tho'...100 degrees + doesn't really inspire one to pic and nic. Um, I shall wait until I can craft a personal narrative that has some relevance to the list before I subject you to the effluvia and detritus of my life. Just another Texas Belle, Lisa H. p.s. send me email if you're of a mind to! leesa at ccsi.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From low_fi25 at xxx.com Fri Jul 28 01:41:19 2000 From: low_fi25 at xxx.com (Jacob Laurent) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:41:19 GMT Subject: Sinister: return of faith Message-ID: <20000728004119.76093.qmail@hotmail.com> >To our American brethren - is the X-men movie any good? first i've gotta set this one up. my friend tom was one of the lucky 1200 people to recieve passes to the x-men pre-screening at the galaxie theatre in san francisco; a theatre that holds 600. it was like the lifeboat situation on the titanic, and nearly as disasterous 'til the lady from fox agreed to run the film twice. we finally got in. and it was *damn* good. i even snuck out of work 3 days later and saw it *again*. it's a real event film, so make sure you get the big popcorn, the big pop, and the hot tamales. yrs, jacob okay and by the way: they don't even bring *up* the whole rogue/mystique connection....maybe they're saving it for the inevitable sequels. p.p.s i originally opened this post, cos i thought there might be some 'buffy the vampire slayer' content in here. do they even show that outside the states? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brian_away at xxx.com Fri Jul 28 01:48:45 2000 From: brian_away at xxx.com (Brian Phillips) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:48:45 GMT Subject: Sinister: Katie Homes and Lynyrd Skynyrd. Message-ID: Hello kids. 1. Laura Llew described me as "that Katie Holmes stalker on the coast", and while my subject line might only reinforce the myth, I'd like to take this opportunity to attempt to dispell it. --> I have never even seen the tv show "Dawson's Creek". <-- There, I hope that helps. HOWEVER--- I recently joined a band that practices in a quaint "store-n-lock" in Wilmington that is LITERALLY RIGHT NEXT DOOR to Screen Gems Studios, where they film... Dawson's Creek. So I'm pretty much a rock star already. Out of principle. 2. LYNYRD SKYNYRD: Has a song called "Gimme Three Steps", and the opening line from that song is... "I was cuttin the rug at a place called the bug With a girl named Linda Llew" So I thought that sort of related to Laura Llew's poems. "there's no courage in hatred, only in love" -Embrace Brian http://www.makeoutclub.com #6! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From exxxitt at xxx.com Fri Jul 28 08:19:08 2000 From: exxxitt at xxx.com (man one) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 07:19:08 GMT Subject: Sinister: Re: Message-ID: a humble second posting: does anyone know zurich? three of us shall be driving from there to geneva for a week in early august (without much of a clue about switzerland in general) before taking a train to rome. suggestions of any sort are welcome. thanks, ndma also, perhaps most importantly, does anyone know of caplutta sogn benedetg? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jamesmcsuperman at xxx.com Fri Jul 28 08:52:43 2000 From: jamesmcsuperman at xxx.com (Harry Hunt) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:52:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Definitions of Twee and Fey Message-ID: Fey is another spelling of Fay, which is an ebonic slang term for "white man". It's generally derogative, but in some contexts is merely familiar. Fey/Fay is also Scots slang, relating to one fated to die, doomed, especially as portended by peculiar, usually elated behaviour. It also can be traced back to a Gallic word meaning to clean out, or scour. Fey was also once Scots spelling for the word "fee" It can also mean eccentric, slightly mad, whimsical, supernatural fairy-like and elfin. It is generally these last few meanings for which the word is used nowadays. Twee is a colloquial adjective meaning small and sweet, sentimentally pretty. There are two theories for its etymology, whether 'tweet' being used as a term meaning 'extra sweet' got contracted, or whether it's more Gallic, and thus a combination of T-iny and WEE. Conjugations accepted by Chambers are the adverb "Tweely" and the noun "Tweeness" Twee is/was also a Scots interjectory term, used as a call to calves at feeding time. The OED says that twee means dainty, chic, over-nice, over-refined, precious, mawkish. The OED puts the etymology down to a juvenile pronunciation of the word "sweet". Hope this helped in some small way. I'm trying to distract myself with reference books because I have an interview in a minute. Love Harry +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trarvild at xxx.se Fri Jul 28 09:20:23 2000 From: trarvild at xxx.se (Katarina Karlsson) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:20:23 +0200 Subject: Sinister: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6teborg/Gothenburg_Sweden_not_picnic_but_cafe?= Message-ID: <200007280856.KAA09447@mb07.swip.net> Hi Sinister cafe meeting in Göteborg. The summerweather this year isn't good for picknics. We are two now, I and Alexander. Are there more peoples on Sinister who lives here? Hugs Katarina +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Rickbozard at xxx.com Fri Jul 28 00:47:06 2000 From: Rickbozard at xxx.com (Rickbozard at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:47:06 EDT Subject: Sinister: save yourselves from the fiery depths Message-ID: <200007272345.AAA20789@missprint.org> actually, I am a vegitarian, though i do enjoy those damned mcdonalds hot fudge sundays as for the words fey and twee, they indicate that the person using them is one of two things a)a lame prententious indie bastard from england b) a lamer, more pretentious indie bastard from the u.s.a. pretending to be from england see sinister list for examples +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Fri Jul 28 10:08:03 2000 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:08:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: It's like I'm on the moon Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22011D2F4A@SERVER1> Maybe it's that Friday feeling, maybe I'm just cer-azy. I don't know. So I decided to post to sinister again. Sinister's a bit good, isn't it? The best bit about sinister is when you meet up with other sinisterines and discuss the list. Sod the band. It's the list that's bursting with gossip and lust and tapes with youth songs, and as it's FORBIDDEN to talk about it here we get our fix in the Olde Cheshire Cheese. Even Honey does it. Which reminds me - Julie, haven't you got better things to be doing than posting to the list? Despite living in Lahndon, no stranger has ever approached me because I was wearing something B&S. The girl with the big smile behind the cloakroom counter at 200 Troubled Teenagers grinned at my Looper badge, but it was a bit too obvious, really. And there was that rather tasty gay fellow who asked why I had badges on upside down. Hmmm. But apart from that, zip. Someone in the gym looked at my Study at Stow t-shirt oddly, but that was probably because it didn't say "Dirk's One-Stop Muscle Shop for Real Men" like everyone else's. Erm, Knightowl - Pleeeeease check the archives for definitions of twee - it's been discussed in quite some depth and it hurts my ears... and Mindmonkey, your excite mailbox is "temporarily over quota" - and I've got a mail I'd like to send you...Carsmile Steve, good tactics mate :-)... Magnetic Fields gig = fantastic, also fantastic was booking office who gave me 4 tickets in the middle of the second row in the Queen Elizabeth Hall - I now know the make of Stephin Merritt's guitar strings. Definitely my second favourite band in the world, though listees will be disappointed that I uncharacteristically didn't shout this out to the band in front of lots of cringing people like I did last time. Ahem. Ach, this is a poor post. I'll stop now. 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Jul 28 11:44:19 2000 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:44:19 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Nuremburg Picnic? Message-ID: <000d01bff880$e91f2ce0$4597243e@itjfvkli> Umgowa Whities! Admittedly the frighteningly named Sinsiter list organisation does have some things in common with the Nazis, such as discipline, smart clothes and massive public displays of strength, but there the similarities end. If I had a pound for every disgruntled listee who compared us to the Nazis, I'd have enough for a McMenu. Why doesn't anyone ever compare us to Laurent Kabila's personal bodyguard? Sinister stands for brotherly and sisterly love. We have been brought together by our unfailing love for Belle und Sebastian. If "Legal Man" (note fascist undertones of title) is a Northern Soul stomper, does that make "Women's Realm" a Northern Soul Floater? We're going to have lots of safety Northern Soul Floaters on the concert boat, currently under construction in Hamburg. It's going to have a watertight DJ booth, and the DJ's going to be a cross between Chris Geddes and an octopus, so he can have eight songs cued up at once and then go for eight pints. "Judy is a Dick Slap" sounds like a Ramones title, doesn't it? DOESN'T IT? Oh bloody sod yer then. The Christopus will also be able to play eight keyboards at once, just like RICK WAKEMAN. No Jordi, that is not the correct word... Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucyalder at xxx.com Fri Jul 28 12:13:27 2000 From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Faggy but nice Message-ID: <20000728111327.9893.qmail@web1610.mail.yahoo.com> **With reference to other listees...** I notice that Mark casually slipped into his post that he went to the gym last night. He's been going for a while and I thought it was all part of his masterplan to become a boring grown-up before his time. Now I know better, of course - he just wants to be Sinister's first and foremost Muscle Mary. My my, Rickbozard has a fiery temper, doesn't he, girls and boys? And I thought vegetarians were all wishy-washy, hippie types, keen to spread peace, love, daisies and tofu. Cheer up, you old bugger, you're not dead yet. Sinister Diva Llaura Llew, whose Ls I pronounce like those in Llanelli, I didn't get your email I'm afraid - send it again and add a postscript telling me your secret. Poetry indeed! Whatever next? Hello to everyone who came to the Magnetic Fields gig in London (and Sinister was very well represented indeed). Who was it who went to the one in Brum? I'm jealous - did they really do lots of new ones? We got 27 Love Songs plus an oldie. But it was still GRATE. **Content (wonders will never cease)** First up, did anyone else notice that Knightowl asked if anybody ever posts any content and then, just like that, up popped our very own boogie-woogie bugle boy from company B&S with a new diary entry? Anyway, I thought I'd continue the trend and copy out some things that were in August's Select that I'm pretty sure haven't been mentioned before and which may be of interest to those of you that are forrin and would have to fork out considerably more that two pounds and seventy-five pence for your own copy. >From an interview with Alan Rankine: Select: You oversaw the course at Glasgow's Stow College that led to the recording of Belle & Sebastian's Tigermilk album. How was that? Big Al: Yeah, I was there for most of the five days when it was being recorded and mixed in the studio. Stuart Murdoch just had so many amazing songs, the best lyrics I'd heard in a long time. Stuart is quite a guy. I remember the first time I saw him he was wearing a three-piece suit with his pyjamas underneath - tops and bottoms! - in the middle of Glasgow. Stuart Murdoch - style guru. What I want to know is, how could he tell Struan was wearing pyjama bottoms under his suit trousers? I have mental image of undone flies and a bit of blue and white striped brushed cotton poking through. Swoon! Mick Cooke on Napster (RIP): "I received an email from somebody who discovered Belle & Sebastian through Napster... he's since bought all the records" Come on, fess up, was he talking about you? And goshdarn, can't they find a picture of Mick that WASN'T taken at the Brits? What about the delightful one on the new album with the Farrah Fawcett wig? Cor! The Symbolism of B&S LP Sleeves: What's the girl on the front of Belle & Sebastian's FYHCYWLAP album holding? I Fought In A War by Glynn Hurst. You'll search the Penguin catalogue in vain for it, though - it was invented by B&S singer Stuart Murdoch and their manager Neil Robertson as a tribute to the Ayr United striker of the same name. Apparently, he's a very pacy player who joins the attack brilliantly, how will Glynn react to this JR Hartley-like fame? A Gazza and Lindisfarne-stye collaboration surely beckons. Ho and, indeed, ho. Did we already know this info? I think I knew the book didn't exist, but I didn't know who Glynn Hurst was. But then, I know nothing about football. That's why I support Woking. *Friday night's alright for dancing* Londoners, tonight is Track & Field night. I'll be there in a red pencil skirt and my second highest heels - who'll join me? Juicy Lucy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com Fri Jul 28 13:59:39 2000 From: Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com (Paul Rudolph) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:59:39 -0400 Subject: Sinister: return of faith Message-ID: <0056750021604663000002L532*@MHS> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From magdaboom at xxx.com Fri Jul 28 15:43:54 2000 From: magdaboom at xxx.com (Magda Boom) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 07:43:54 -0700 Subject: Sinister: It's my party and I'll die if I want to Message-ID: Dearest bedwetters, Im sorry theres been a short interval from planet MAGDA, (like you care, eh?) Ive been rather caught up in the social whirl. Cutting back a little while, the last London picnic, thankfully back on Primrose hill was a delight, and a big HELLO to the London picnic massive. Hello Mojo Sophie and everyone else I met. Its gossip you wanted, and gossip I would provide, had I not arrived appalling late and left before the drunk quarter (i.e Apres 8 PM) to meet something boyshaped. And that half-wit Carsmile says I wasnt there, well I was, I tell you, but I was hanging with the Baxendale crew on the Kids table for the most part. Im sorry I kicked your football down the wrong side of the hill on purpose and refused to collect it, boys, but sometimes a girl has to make a stand. I danced to Dylan in the Movies at Trash on Monday, theres content for you. It was actually the first time Id heard Belle and Sebastian in weeks, never mind danced to it, but there you are, all it takes is one moment of hip-shaking, brow-wiping, dirty-floored-disco moment and theyre back on rotation. Can I take this opportunity to big up the Foxgloves? They played a gig in Camden last week and they were so spanking good, I snubbed headlining whilster and ate chips outside instead. This is the summer of hate, I tell you, but its getting quite fun. Im off to swish around Prague tomorrow so I wont be around for a little while, I hope some of you send me some letters to read for when I get back. That would be swell. Agent Boom x P.s David - dont worry about my copy of Diary of a Crush, I bought another copy. You can keep up with a very real diary of a crush at http://welcome.to/houseofscarlet when she gets her act together P.P.s Ken, I havent forgotten about the Bowling League - it *will* happen! *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From knightowl at xxx.net Fri Jul 28 17:33:13 2000 From: knightowl at xxx.net (Knightowl) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:33:13 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Definitions of Twee and Fey References: Message-ID: <011101bff8b1$a68b2560$d81fd718@mountaincable.net> Well there you go. Thank you. I found this quite interesting. I was a bit off in my understanding of it too. I had assumed there was more of a lack of masculinity quality attached to it. The opposite of latin machismo perhaps. Probably brought in by that "elfin" bit you mentioned. Then again, maybe I just mentally made twee into wee and went from there. Interesting. Ed > Fey is another spelling of Fay, which is an ebonic slang term for "white > man". It's generally derogative, but in some contexts is merely familiar. > > Fey/Fay is also Scots slang, relating to one fated to die, doomed, > especially as portended by peculiar, usually elated behaviour. > > It also can be traced back to a Gallic word meaning to clean out, or scour. > > Fey was also once Scots spelling for the word "fee" > > It can also mean eccentric, slightly mad, whimsical, supernatural fairy-like > and elfin. > > It is generally these last few meanings for which the word is used nowadays. > > Twee is a colloquial adjective meaning small and sweet, sentimentally > pretty. > > There are two theories for its etymology, whether 'tweet' being used as a > term meaning 'extra sweet' got contracted, or whether it's more Gallic, and > thus a combination of > T-iny and WEE. > > Conjugations accepted by Chambers are the adverb "Tweely" and the noun > "Tweeness" > > Twee is/was also a Scots interjectory term, used as a call to calves at > feeding time. > > The OED says that twee means dainty, chic, over-nice, over-refined, > precious, mawkish. > > The OED puts the etymology down to a juvenile pronunciation of the word > "sweet". > > Hope this helped in some small way. I'm trying to distract myself with > reference books because I have an interview in a minute. > > Love > Harry > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ > +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jamesmcsuperman at xxx.com Fri Jul 28 19:51:48 2000 From: jamesmcsuperman at xxx.com (Harry Hunt) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:51:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I want back the time I gave you Message-ID: I've screwed the Student Loans Company over, and I'm fairly sure they're going to find me out any minute now, and then my life won't be worth LIVING. If I die, you can all come to my house and divvy my stuff up. All the nice ones of you, anyway. I'm allowed to mail again because my last mail was entirely factual and unopinionated. Oh yes. On the subject of the definition of the word "Fey", a potplant sent me the following: ############################################################ I'm still in the nursery, but I'd like to give another side to the "fey" word. Maybe you could pass it along...? I know that in the 1800s (and probably long before that), the Chinese used the words "fan wey" to describe the English. Yes, it was a derogatory term. The Chinese did not think highly of the "whites" back then. Maybe this has no relevance at all... My 2 cents, Colleen (new listee from Huntington Beach, Calif.) ########################################################### I was expecting to have something to say after all this to justify it, but my spirit is gone, and I don't mean vodka. I'm a mess. *shakes head* Wish me luck, folks. Harry +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From valium_pill at xxx.com Fri Jul 28 19:42:58 2000 From: valium_pill at xxx.com (i'm done faking my rampages, thankyou very much) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:42:58 EDT Subject: Sinister: theres a fly in my soup. Message-ID: hiya everyone.. this message serves a couple functions really. the first reason is the worse one... i never got my last post, but i got a reply from someone else's mailbox saying that they were away.. so i dont know if i sent it to the list or just this person, as i dont have the outgoing message function saved. gotta hate hotmail sometimes. so if i rehash anything. i'm sorry. eer.. Its Jes (formerly fakinguparampage at aol.com), who said she unsubbed but didnt really as she forgot about this account, and is happy that she has this account as she has been tearing down her aol accounts, but can now post again using this account... if you're not sure who Jes (fakinguparampage at aol.com) is, think wanna be canadian who loves apple butter. thankyou. so, if my previous post was really posted.. then everyone hates my story idea. and thats sad, because i thought it would be cute. however, if my previous post wasnt posted at all, then perhaps i havent shared my idea yet and you dont all hate me. so this is my idea. i think we should write a sinister story -- it can pass along like the poetry parrot, each person writing a paragraph or 8 to continue it. i had an idea for a premise and characters and such, but that didnt really work well, as i decided afterwards 'no'. i'm not the funniest, wittiest most articulate chick on the list tho, so i would feel kinda awkward starting it. but... i dont know. it could be nice. rick doesnt seem to like us much... so i dont really understand why hes here. i played belle and sebby for a friend yesterday.. and she hated them. so i got really sad... she equated them to peter paul and mary, and went on how it was the worst music shes ever heard. another friend played them for another friend, who just said that they were too cute. i'm devestated. and the last purpose to this letter. the girl on the cover of tigermilk was stuarts girlfriend at the time, right? are they still together, do we know? cos... i was thinking.. the line in the model 'i'm not to proud to say that i'm ok with the girl next door whose famous for showing her chest'... could that be a cloaked reference to her, as her claim to fame would be that she was shown nursing the tiger, thus showing her chest? or should i stop thinking? sigh... i'm supposed to go out today, but i have no money... and my friend i was supposed to go out with hasnt called yet... so i dont know if i'm still going. sadness. love, Jes ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickgillespie at xxx.com Fri Jul 28 21:14:23 2000 From: nickgillespie at xxx.com (n|ck g) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 20:14:23 GMT Subject: Sinister: overanalysis Message-ID: i have been on this list for a little bit now and read almost every posting, as i have nothing really to do all day at work. i have never posted but i have noticed a trend to the postings. almost all of them are extremely fun to read but once in a while a few individuals - to remain nameless - get stuck on a subject and feel the need to completely over analize it; beating mercilously till there is no need to bludgen it anymore and then kicking it a few more times. two cases in point. the word "fey" and the subject matter of "pink floyd" (sp?) if one were to have a question on the meaning of a word, wouldn't it be easier to just look it up in the dictionary? i mean he was using the word incorectly anyways. on the subject of pink floyd: why are we talking about such things in the first place? i appologize to anyone that i might have offended. this in no way is a malicious email to anyone. i greatly enjoy 99% of the postings. keep it real. nw ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachtuc at xxx.com Fri Jul 28 22:51:38 2000 From: rachtuc at xxx.com (rachel tucker) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:51:38 BST Subject: Sinister: waiting for buffy... Message-ID: <20000728215138.52807.qmail@hotmail.com> howdy peeps it was my birthday on monday, i made it to 18! i'm a proper adult now, no really, i am... the fact that i'm skint, unemployed, bludging off my parents, smoking far too much shit and generally behaving like a student does not undermine my credibility as a responsible member of society. though i was under the impression that responsible members of society do more than turn up back home in the middle of the day hardly able to stand, forgetting both my keys and that my mum and dad both work, decide to break in to the garden and 'rest' on the patio, where i was woken up by my hysterical mum 5 hours later thinking i'd died or something, go back to bed and then have my alarm clock go off so i could get up for my 'this life' fix... alright, that wasn't a typical day, that was yesterday. today i, ermmm, got up at half three, made a tape, made some pasta, errmm that was it really. i can't be arsed to go out, and besides the 'ex-boyf, guy i cheated on ex-boyf with, and guy i actually have heart pumping crush on' situation is so tense, stressful and fucking complicated i only go to the pub now if i'm feeling particuarly masochistic. which today i'm not. i would go back to bed but buffy is on tonight and i missed it on wednesday. also, i'm waiting for the result of oxford's pre season friendly against chelsea. it's really dumb, i decided that there was no way i was paying out a tenner for another bloody friendly (the one against birmingham was SO godawful that i nearly phoned back the job i'd just turned down because i'd have to work 3 out of 4 saturdays and ask them to save me from soul crushing boredom that oxford united inflict upon their fans, and that i'd work every goddam saturday going...), and that i didn't care, it's completely meaningless, yet i've spent all of this evening desperately not listening to radio oxford's commentary. it's worse than actually being there...that may not be strictly true... anyway, only 5 minutes left now till i can switch the radio on, yay! mark said: Last week I went to a gig by Holy Roman Empire, who are my favourite Oxford band at the moment. and i say: fantastic!!! i cannot seriously believe that someone other than me likes, nay loves the mighty HRE. they are an...experience. to say the least. if anyone gets the chance to see them please GO! you may wish to never see them again, but there is always the chance you'll come away with a grin to split your face and be unable to stop smiling for the rest of the week. and anyone on the tape tree can blame mark for my inclusion of the empire's mighty piss take/major improvement on radiohead's street spirit. i wasn't going to put it on the tape i made today, but after finding out there is someone else on the list who might possibly appreciate it, i've gone ahead...sorry...it could be (worse? better?), i could have put the oxford united mix of 'holy water baby' on... oh. we lost 5-1. bugger. knew i should have taken that bloody job. i got the new jeff noon book for my birthday, 'needle in the groove'. it is brilliant, it really is. the way noon manipulates language, wow, unbelievable. he is also one of the few writers who i think can write about music, any music, without being cliched or cringeworthy. it's a headfuck of a book to be honest. once you're in there's no leaving it alone, it really gets under your skin. don't you just hate it when you can't write your posts all in one go? because i'm such a slow typist there is more of a chance that during the course of me trying to write something i'll get interrupted. and as per usual i just have been. the phone's going berserk!! (i've never written 'berserk' before, it looks dead weird. probably spelt wrong). that would be cool had i wanted to speak to any of the people on the other end, but as with most of my friends and family, i didn't. and now you all have to suffer a disjointed post. sorry. my dad (who's in berlin drinking. lots by the sounds of it) was the first wanting a full match report. he hung up when i told him i didn't actually go. bless him though, he paid half my reading ticket for me (though i did have to sign - with witnesses! - the i.o.u for the other half, damn) and it came this week. i am tres excited, primal scream, badly drawn boy, the delgados, eminem, gorky's, idlewild, super furry's, ooberman AND(subliminal message: go see, go see) theanimalhouse ALL ON THE SAME BILL!!! i can't believe it! and for nostalgia's sake i can see oasis for the very first time, which had this been six years ago i would be wetting myself over in sheer overexcitement, like the time i nearly walked into mark owen...no i was speaking figuratively, i didn't REALLY wet myself. honest. no really, i didn't. just hyperventilated and needed my inhaler. and that was due to lung abuse, not the fact that i had nearly walked into one of my ALL TIME HEROES/POP KID CRUSHES. honestly. please believe me... okay, on that note i think it may be time to wind this baby up. i started typing at 9:15 and now it's 10:42, i wasn't even on the phone THAT long... man, all that effort and sod all of any interest to show for it... and the whole three dots thing (which is called an ellipsis y'know) is pissing me off now, it just makes me look dumb like i don't know how to finish a sentence properly, or i've run out of things to say or something. well, anything coherent anyway. which could be true. so lots of love and hugs people rachel xxxx ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From spacegirldream3 at xxx.com Sat Jul 29 00:58:22 2000 From: spacegirldream3 at xxx.com (space girl) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:58:22 EDT Subject: Sinister: larue domination!! Message-ID: <20000728235822.74938.qmail@hotmail.com> hi, i know this is list abuse (and i know people hate it when people say that, but it's the truth). anyways, i'm so exciting about the new york picknecky and i shall be bringing some friends along who love b&s, but are not part of the list yet (shame on them) anyhoo, just wanted to let you all know i have a new webpage up and song on the net, so you should check it out for fun (please). www.mp3.com/larue33 "la rue" is the name of the band, and if you go to our website, you'll know why. chai tea and crumpets for all! spacey girl ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbethy at xxx.net Sat Jul 29 02:45:53 2000 From: mbethy at xxx.net (mbethy) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:45:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Broken Bones Can Sting a Little Message-ID: <20000729014553.8586EE0A9@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From jonnyfive at xxx.com Sat Jul 29 11:58:11 2000 From: jonnyfive at xxx.com (jonnyfive) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 05:58:11 -0500 Subject: Sinister: child, your peasant walk you fold, a-hands Message-ID: <4120007629105811555@starmail.com> dear sini, well, the fearsome debate my 'you're just a baby is crap' post set off has knocked me sideways. the bulge of my mailbox has shocked me into catatonia. and as for the number of will mellor fans on sinister... who would have guessed. i am at work again today and one of the ladies who i don't get on with 'threw a mental' to be technical about it. she screwed up my tea list, and hissed 'i will not fall out over THIS', and stormed off like a member of the SS marching into poland. so i have been sent upstairs to be away from her and everyone is discussing it i think. it's the most interesting thing to have happened all week. so, the NHS. labour's new plan: good or bad? i think any increase in staff and organisation merits a tick in the 'good' box, but using the private sector gets a les dennis 'i-urr'. diane abbot MP said that the gov. has had 3 years and a 170 seat majority and it still hasn't repealed section 28, and i think the same thing can be said about sorting out health. they're more concerned with the daily mail than with anything important. when they starting sticking the boot into refugees i wanted to go out onto the street and sick up my lungs as a protest. i fumed instead. sorry to everyone in the US who cares less than zero to quote Brett E.E. about the minutae of british politics. content: libraries aren't mentioned quite as much in B&S as you'd think, which makes me sad. i gave my friend a tape of B&S to go on holiday with and i'm desmond to find out if he liked it or not. the wait, a bit like the crapness of life, continues... hope everyone waiting for a-level results is as calm and NOT nervous as i am, hem hem. love to all j.xxx 8 mins again. _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chrislampinen at xxx.com Sat Jul 29 04:32:27 2000 From: chrislampinen at xxx.com (chris lampinen) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 23:32:27 EDT Subject: Sinister: i could be dreaming, but maybe it's just raining really really hard Message-ID: <20000729033227.30208.qmail@hotmail.com> silly! how could you have NOT read every single word on the sinister page? its on there. http://www.missprint.org/sinister/lyrics.html or if you're super lazy i'll put everything at the end of my little post. today we had a big huge horrible storm in michigan. i work outside. it was fun, except my shoes had holes on the bottoms and it was really cold. my feet looked like prunes when i got home. my co-worker is all of fourteen years old, and since i couldn't stand to see the poor thing walk (skateboard actually) home in the rain, i offered him a ride. i shamefully turned my sinister tape down 'cause he's "hard" and i would have felt stupid. imagine that. im intimidated by a 4' fourteen year old. mm. oh well. i hope all your storms are as lovely as mine, with love christiaan Spoken bit from "I Could Be Dreaming" From: "Rip Van Winkle" by Washington Irving: designated by a rubicund portrait of his majesty George the Third. Here they used to sit in the shade, of a long lazy summer's day, talk "Times grew worse and worse with Rip Van Winkle as years of matrimony rolled on; a tart tempter never mellows with age, and a sharp tongue is the only edge tool that grows keener by constant use. For a long while he used to console himself, when driven from home, by frequenting a kind of perpetual club of the sages, philosophers, and other idle personages of the village, that held its sessions on a bench before a small inn, listlessly over village gossip, or tell endless sleepy stories about nothing. But it would have been worth any statesman's money to have heard the profound discussions that sometimes took place, when by chance an old newspaper fell into their hands, from some passing traveller. How solemnly they would listen to the contents, as drawled out by Derrick Van Bummel, the schoolmaster, a dapper learned little man, who was not to be daunted by the most gigantic word in the dictionary..." >Alright, question being, what the hell is she reading? Is it something >really obvious that I should know, or is it entirely made up? THis is a >silly question, but it bothers me to no end. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jonnyfive at xxx.com Sat Jul 29 13:35:38 2000 From: jonnyfive at xxx.com (jonnyfive) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 07:35:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: lazy lying panting jonny Message-ID: <2696220007629123538648@starmail.com> sini (again) the lady i was telling you about just walked in on me and a 'colleague' bitching about her in hushed voices. did she know we were talking about her? she mumbled something about coming in to look at a postcard and zoomed out. part of me feels like i'm still at school and she's a teacher who caught me writing a nasty poem about her in a rough book, but part of me feels like an growed-up who has the right to bitch about someone who has been horrible to me. me and my work-mate went into town and it really started to rain when i got back. felt slightly fuzzy and headed back to work, avoiding all eye-contact with Mme. X (as we shall call her). i think i will be called in for a telling off later by the boss, which is fine because then i can get the boss to have a bitch about Mme. X with me and i'll feel happy. sorry to tell you all my tittle-tattle, i'm just a bit worried if i'm honest. To quote the late, great philosopher, Des'ree, "Life, oh life, oh li-i-i-iife, oh life, do-do-do-do". love j.xxx _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From red.tully at xxx.com Sat Jul 29 14:57:10 2000 From: red.tully at xxx.com (Redmond Tully) Date: 29 Jul 2000 14:57:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: For to be a ladybird, what a wonderful thing to be. Message-ID: <20000729135710.5416.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From david at xxx.uk Sat Jul 29 15:55:30 2000 From: david at xxx.uk (David White) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:55:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: overanalysis In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If you've been on the list for a little bit now you should know that it's a big no-no to post messages about the list. If you don't like what people are talking about, don't read it. That's what the delete button's for. Dave www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: owner-sinister at xxx.org [mailto:owner-sinister at missprint.org]On Behalf Of n|ck g Sent: 28 July 2000 21:14 To: sinister at missprint.org Subject: Sinister: overanalysis i have been on this list for a little bit now and read almost every posting, as i have nothing really to do all day at work. i have never posted but i have noticed a trend to the postings. almost all of them are extremely fun to read but once in a while a few individuals - to remain nameless - get stuck on a subject and feel the need to completely over analize it; beating mercilously till there is no need to bludgen it anymore and then kicking it a few more times. two cases in point. the word "fey" and the subject matter of "pink floyd" (sp?) if one were to have a question on the meaning of a word, wouldn't it be easier to just look it up in the dictionary? i mean he was using the word incorectly anyways. on the subject of pink floyd: why are we talking about such things in the first place? i appologize to anyone that i might have offended. this in no way is a malicious email to anyone. i greatly enjoy 99% of the postings. keep it real. nw ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gogron at xxx.uk Sat Jul 29 18:58:07 2000 From: gogron at xxx.uk (gogron) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 18:58:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: from Banchory, Banchory & Barnes Message-ID: <39831B2F.E8C37EA9@netscapeonline.co.uk> Fellow Sinistreens, This is my first posting to the sinister mailing list. I will, therefore, briefly introduce myself. My name is Gordon, I am 29 and work as an 'architect' (final examinations lurk... it takes ages to become one) in Scotland. If I am known at all to readers of this list, it is under the indulgently pompous persona of 'Rousseau' in the associated chatroom. The grandiloquent ellipticality demonstrated there to occassionally controversial effect does actually have some of the 'real me' in it, so if you can't stand Rousseau, then you know whose posts to skip! Belle and Sebastian I'm currently enjoying the *Tigermilk* album. I'm still not sure about the suitability of the lyrics, largely sighs over things not going quite right, and the music, which is winsome and jaunty. A more comprehensive companionableness is offered, I suppose: sympathy in the under-par times and happy if you are. For example, the notes upon which this email is based were written one sunny lunchtime to which it played as a perfect soundtrack. It should be said that I'm skirting only on a superficial critique of an album that all of you know very well. I don't wish to be impertinent in seeming to 'sum up' the album as 'not a dull track on it/love it to bits' but you get the gist of my affection for the band and its output and, dare I admit it, I only bought *Tigermilk* a couple of days ago. I bought *If You're Feeling Sinister* in 1996, Virgin Records, Oxford Street. With reference to a recent posting, nobody's arm was on fire at the time. It was on one of the listening posts, I donned the headphones, fancied the girl on the cover, thought 'this is a breath of fresh air' and made the purchase. I also liked the song titles and especially the descriptive bit on the back,which is indicative of the particularly engaging style of Belle and Sebastian and, I think more significantly, the whole culture surrounding them: I like the people that like them. The Religion Thread My standing on the matter (for what it's worth) is this: One should first of all distinguish between the concepts of religion as it pertains to the functioning of a society and as it intimates the spiritual. Religion is, in the first sense, a vehicle for the dissemination of rules and aspirations of and for behaviour such that a society might progress along a traditional path. To disagree with religion here is to posit an anarchic potential or else is an explicit preference for an alternative societal model, such as secularism. In the second sense, religion offers a shared framework for experiencing the potential of life beyond the concepts established within mundane experience. To disagree with this is either to suggest that beyond mundane experience is nothing or to put that aspect of one's existence in an inexpressably personal form. I reckon it is possible to further analyse specific acts in the first category, and beliefs in the second in order to establish, respectively, their desireability and truth. The above stance precludes me from being either 'for' or 'against' religion as a hermetic and monolithic entity. Stop Press Fold yer hands, child, is currently available from Sainsbury's supermarket at £9.99 a pop. Another Concert I recently attended a small pop concert in Edinburgh, at a good venue called *the Attic*. I was thinking of writing a little review of it for you lot, being pop fans and all, but my mind wandered somewhat, to the effect below... by the way, I use non-prose writing when it comes naturally. I make no claims for it: songs from the Attic (an architectural term in two etymological senses and ... with love to Athens) were I to say the whine of feedback makes my day:- and the beer-soaked dinky wee floor; cigarette butts galore, was an aesthetic pre-amble, then:- need I say more? some people want catharsis; some spread their arms wide, some are happy; -to be part of it- others hide. Some pose Expectantly, because it is what they are accustomed to, and all around is noise; musical noise of the rock-god whore. 'STARSKY': the band, starts with a slow number:- lots of phased guitar. A soundless, sweaty clap at the end reminds me of speechless, sweaty dancing, leaden drums offering the lumpen rhythmic cue, to the love of my lost teenage angst; the inarticulate passion that, inexpressible and unactable I rationed out I did not even want Except for the feeling: I want that feeling again As always for a first post, one is anxious about all that one does and says, but in reading your own posts I have felt companionship, comfort, amusement and occasional reading, which is something I've enjoyed so far. I look forward to being part of that. Gordon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sink at xxx.gr Sat Jul 29 22:22:27 2000 From: sink at xxx.gr (Joan of Dark) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:22:27 +0300 Subject: Sinister: overanalysis....By now you should have learnt what the delete button is for...so feel free to use it... References: Message-ID: <39834B13.55F30B03@x-treme.gr> David White wrote: > If you don't like what people are talking about, don't read it. That's what > the delete button's for. Hmmmm....Dave......same counts for you as for everybody...... Everyone has the right to express his/her opinion I believe...even the ones who want to complain about something or make a remark...It's a little democratic society we have here, so everyone should be allowed to speak his mind freely, as long as he/she doesn't insult others or doesn't abuse the list for personal showing-off.It's only in this way that we can abolish some behaviours that may cause dysfunction of the list.Maybe in this way , by listening to the other's opinion, we could make this list more interesting and friendly for EVERYBODY. Truth be told, the whole Pink Floyd thing went a bit too far, I'm not talking about the people who made reasonable statements and explained their reasons for liking or disliking that particular group, but for the ones who ,without explaining in the least why they think so, exclaimed that PF are "shite"or this or that....I'm not going for either of two as I was on the nursery at that time and just watched curiously what was going on and tried to figured out how things work in here...And I got quite confused...but thankfully everything has come back to normal now... Unfortunately I won't be able to follow this thread (?) as I'm going on holidays and I'm leaving tonight, but I'll be looking forward to coming back and reading all your mails ,that most of the times, if not always,are a pleasant surprise...and that is because,as Gordon (or Gorgon) remarked -welcome to the land of sinister by the way Gordon- ,maybe more than anything else about B&S I like the people that like them. And that is the most important thing ,I believe. Whoever doesn't like the PEOPLE on the list is free to unsubsribe, there's nothing we can do about that, everyone is who he is, but when it comes to posts....before judging you should first try to be a bit more patient and then try to see if the other has a point and what you can do about that.Then you, or we, could discuss it on the list if it's of general interest.... Well, that's what I think at least...it doesn't mean I'm right....I'm open to suggestions, but after the 8th of August. : ) For the moment I'll have to mend my suitcase that my hamster thought would make a nice snack and munched a whole corner of it.And I only found out today!!! bye bye to you all!! *waving a handkerchief* Sunny mornings and starry nights to you all, Joanna +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From knightowl at xxx.net Sun Jul 30 00:04:08 2000 From: knightowl at xxx.net (Knightowl) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:04:08 -0400 Subject: Sinister: overanalysis....By now you should have learnt what the delete button is for...so feel free to use it... References: <39834B13.55F30B03@x-treme.gr> Message-ID: <001601bff9b1$53b10160$d81fd718@mountaincable.net> It's a > little democratic society we have here Its not you know. Its a mailing list, and the owner of it can pretty much do anything they want to. They might choose to make it democratic, but ultimately, they are god. > Truth be told, the whole Pink Floyd thing went a bit too far "truth"? So if it went "too far" it should have been what? stopped? How "democratic" woudl that be? I don't really have a point here, other than to maybe suggest that all this analysis of the list as of late should perhaps be scrubbed and we should all just let it be whatever it is. Unless of course the owner decides otherwise ;-) For a slim bit of B&S, does anyone besides me find it quite ironic that a band with seemingly socialist leanings is one of the most commercially astute bands I can think of. All those little ep's with unreleased tracks nakign you buy more, while the albums are less than 50 minutes long. Can't imagine I'm the only one who'd have much preferred the Lazy Jane box to have been all put onto one CD. "Please don't let them make me be a monkey butler", Ed +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Sun Jul 30 03:38:52 2000 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:38:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: clever searches or partially recycled content In-Reply-To: <397DD201.85C187D9@cs.strath.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi, If you ever get bored and didn't belong to this list before April 1998, may I recommend a list search for 'Left Banke'? Then go down to this entry: 199804/msg00357: No Subject From: owner-sinister at xxx. Of course there's a more straightforward way of looking, but the Left Banke entries are interesting (it was the roundabout way I got there). The post itself is an interview with Stuart and Chris. Explanations for 'mad Murdoch' come to mind, and Chris comes across as an endearing serious student of music & philosophy. I like how in the MTV interview Chris thanked the person who asked about the Wurlitzer keyboards twice. I noticed that a lot of the music that I like is called 'baroque' by knowledgeable people. Would anybody be kind enough to recommend interesting classical music from the baroque period? (I prefer concertos to orchestral music.) Thanks. For those who have been mentioning Flin Flon, it turns out that it's the (new) band of Mark Robinson from Unrest. (You probably already knew that.) I hope you get a chance to hear Unrest. I recommend Perfect Teeth. I haven't heard Flin Flon yet, but intend to get something as soon as I can. bye, Youn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From therach at xxx.com Sun Jul 30 04:23:55 2000 From: therach at xxx.com (Rachel Taylor) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 23:23:55 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Anchovy Dreams & Other Good Things Message-ID: <39839FCB.56F6F2F6@home.com> Hello List! Everyone seems to be a bit moody lately, hmm? The list has been reading like a cloudy day, forecasts of gloom. Have you ever felt like you were stuck being a character in a poorly written, poorly acted, foreign film? That is how I have felt the past few weeks. I can't quite put my finger on why exactly, but everything just feels so vague, and murky. I go through the day in sort of a daze, always with this feeling that something monumental and interesting is getting ready to happen and then it doesn't, so I start again the next day. It isn't really a bad feeling, I'm not complaining- it just feels off kilter, like I am wearing someone else's life. I have been having this one dream over and over again, with some variation. It isn't really a Belle and Sebastian dream per se, although they play in the background- it isn't about them. In my dream I am always at home half asleep in new pajamas (one of my favorite things) and the phone rings. I answer it and it is this boy I love (who doesn't exist in real life) and he wants me to come over. Which thrills me, even though I know it isn't smart to go over so late, I don't want him to get the wrong idea, you know. So I kind of put him off a bit- ask him why I need to go over there. And he gets all desperate sounding and starts talking about how much he needs more of the gourmet anchovies I gave him before. And so I go and rummage through my cupboard and I get all stressed out looking for this one particular kind of tin of special anchovies. And I have all these regular tins of anchovies, and even gourmet tins of special sardines, and in some dreams I have a few tins of gourmet anchovies but they are never the right variety, never the ones he wants, and so the dream always ends with me staring into this cabinet all upset because if I just had the right kind of anchovies I could have the man of my dreams, but I don't have them so he won't ever be mine. The weird thing (aside from the obvious) is that I have never eaten an anchovy or sardine to my knowledge. I have most certainly never purchased any kind of tin of them, but most definitely not a Gourmet tin. None of my dream interpretation books mention tins of fish, so I am at a loss. Maybe I should buy a few, just in case...I mean what if Mr. Right were to come calling? I just really needed to share that with someone whose facial expressions or snide remarks I can't see or hear. Thanks. Rachel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ronando2 at xxx.ie Sun Jul 30 17:12:28 2000 From: ronando2 at xxx.ie (Ronan Barrett) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:12:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: fido, your leash is too long Message-ID: <002e01bffa40$f59e33a0$a3dc7dc2@ronando1> Not wanting to post the only message that I have written in the last year as it didn't quite take me the 15 minutes to write (it went: "Last night I had my first B&S dream. I dreamt Legal Man wasn't shit."), I decided to wait until I had something positive to say before posting for the first time in a year. So, Stephin Merritt is as much of a genius live as on record. Even if the songs weren't nearly all things of utter beauty, just seeing this odd, serious little man singing "Let's pretend we're bunny rabbits/Let's do it all day long" would put a smile on anyone's face. Even the venue was great, nice leather seats to fall into for a prematurely old fogey like myself who likes his comfort at gigs. I'm sure non-believers here are getting tired of hearing this at this stage, but do buy 69 Love Songs please. 6 months on, I still listen to this as much as the great one-month old Badly Drawn Boy LP and the sadly patchy "Fold Your Hands.." �16 or so for 3 CDs has to be worth a chance. By the way, if anyone out there has a tape of the Birmingham gig Stephin played do let me know and I'll swap you for my friend's soul or something. See ya Ronan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From t_ells at xxx.com Sun Jul 30 19:52:51 2000 From: t_ells at xxx.com (tim ellsworth) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:52:51 PDT Subject: No subject Message-ID: I was at work the other day and I was reading this issue of NME and it had this article about who was the new Moz. It had people like Jarvis Cocker and Moby but it also Stuart from Belle and Sebastian. You guys might have already written about this, if so i'm sorry. I don't see how he really compares to Morressey except maybe his moody lyrics. He only got 2/10, 10 being the closest to Morressey, which made me wonder what the point was to even include him. Jarvis Cocker only got 6 and that's who I would have picked, they even compared Moz himself to his old days and he lost. So no one got higher than 6/10. On a seperate note I'm going to my friends wedding this upcoming Saturday which is weird because we only graduated high school last June. I found out like two other people are getting married too. People say they are because they have been together for like three years and they love eachother but they have their whole loves ahead of them and they're sure to meet many more interesting people. oh well this is a terrible entry to the list, i can't concentrate and i'm still sleepy so i'll just stop and send it now and regret writing it later. tim ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koolaidwino at xxx.com Mon Jul 31 01:34:21 2000 From: koolaidwino at xxx.com (brad !) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 20:34:21 EDT Subject: Sinister: columbus, georgia Message-ID: <20000731003421.74649.qmail@hotmail.com> hello. my name is brad and i am an acoloholic. i deserted this list long ago in a fit of uncontrolled beligerence on my part. but we'll save that for a rainy day. hello old friends (and foes). sister disco, honey, duke?, whoever else i didn't mention (intentional or not). so who's the new stud in town, huh? i remember when i had the pleasure of wearing the sinister list crush tiara and got the big bouquet of flowers and then northy sang me that moving acapella rendition of nancy sinatra's "sugar town". i'm not ashamed to say i cried. i AM ashamed to say that i hocked the tiara for a bottle of richard's wild irish rose, a pack of kools, and an underage prostitute...but i'm over it now. now when i think back i laugh, just like mom reassured me i would. anyway, i have recently moved to this town where i have not met one single solitary person worth my all too valuable time. when i say recently, i mean seven months ago. so what i'm hoping is that someone on this list lives in columbus, georgia, and can clue me in as to where i've gone wrong and why i've only met jarheads and connie primadonnas. if it seems like i'm begging, it's because i am. i should've never left athens, but being a college town, there were no decent jobs to be found. i had to come to this godforsaken town for work. if you live here, email me. i demand it (in a pathetic pleading way). other than my miserable loneliness, everything is as it was. and i hope i can bring this list back to the level of smut it used to be at back in the day. but i'm afraid my picking on isobel's irritable bowels are far behind me. aw, who am i kidding? she'll never fall in love with the likes of me. what have i got to lose. but not tonight. tonight i dance. -brad ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Mon Jul 31 02:42:43 2000 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:42:43 -0400 Subject: Sinister: the hickey underworld Message-ID: <00c101bffa90$a4623f40$6b02a7d1@yesic.com> one can always count on stephen hewitt to bring up hag eels again....i'm sure he keeps a whole bunch of them around in a 'pleasure tank' in his velvet lined basement...oh my! i used the quadratic formula today! and i don't take math and havn't taken math for some 2 years now! woo! i did have to look it up in a book but at least i knew what to do with it and knew that i needed to know it to solve the problem i was faced with... you see i'm building a couch. i've been studying architecture at summer school here and i've gotten all excited about building, but since a whole building is completely beyond me i'd start with a couch. also i need a new couch as my existing one is completely fucked up. and you need the quadratic equation to work out some of the couch math you'll have to do. i'll also need to use trigonometry soon too, so we'll see how sharp i really am. i've more or less finished thinking about it and i'm just straightening things out a bit and looking at the practical attributes of various materials. so far it'll look like a piece of scaffolding cross bred with a shopping cart. and then cushions and hammocks and things. i'm also looking forward to welding! does anyone else on the list weld? i havn't done any of that since grade 12 so i can't wait to get back in the swing of things! oooh welding! and i'm talking about arc welding here, not just scaled up soldering...the real stuff. the stuff that could make you go blind. which is why the church was against it for so long. i believe the first arc welding to ever be used in the construction of a church (excepting frank lloyd wright's unity temple for unitarians) was sometime in the late 70's. serious. the pope can't stand it. oh. also i'm telling lots of complete and utter lies today. also its blueberry season! and i had some corn yesterday. woo! i just thought i'd share. s t e v e +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From monroej at xxx.com Mon Jul 31 06:34:11 2000 From: monroej at xxx.com (John F. Monroe) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 00:34:11 -0500 Subject: Sinister: People magazine review Fold Your hands Child, You Walk Like A Peasant Message-ID: <000501bffab0$fd605440$3055cfa9@monroej.execpc> The new issue of People magazine (cover date August 7, 2000) has a review, on page 47. I'll just give the 'bottom line': "Lugubious fare". I basically agreed with the review, when it states ' pleasant enough but not all that compelling', as I like about half of it, and the other half I don't really think about or remember. There is also a picture of Stevie and Stu M. as part of the review. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From margarita at xxx.com Mon Jul 31 03:21:15 2000 From: margarita at xxx.com (triumphant loser) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:21:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: Was there any doubt? References: Message-ID: <002601bffa96$01dc0ca0$e58ffacf@oemcomputer> I dont mean to pimp the old man, but can anyone really come close to morrissey?Sure he isnt what he used to be(in fact he stinks now), but he leaves a legacy that will never be matched.Say what you will about the man.....i say he pulled us through the 80's, a rather dull and musicaly inept time period.In my book the smiths will be the best band ever to play the game. ----- Original Message ----- From: tim ellsworth To: Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 1:52 PM > I was at work the other day and I was reading this issue of NME and it had > this article about who was the new Moz. It had people like Jarvis Cocker > and Moby but it also Stuart from Belle and Sebastian. You guys might have > already written about this, if so i'm sorry. I don't see how he really > compares to Morressey except maybe his moody lyrics. He only got 2/10, 10 > being the closest to Morressey, which made me wonder what the point was to > even include him. Jarvis Cocker only got 6 and that's who I would have > picked, they even compared Moz himself to his old days and he lost. So no > one got higher than 6/10. > On a seperate note I'm going to my friends wedding this upcoming Saturday > which is weird because we only graduated high school last June. I found out > like two other people are getting married too. People say they are because > they have been together for like three years and they love eachother but > they have their whole loves ahead of them and they're sure to meet many more > interesting people. oh well this is a terrible entry to the list, i can't > concentrate and i'm still sleepy so i'll just stop and send it now and > regret writing it later. > tim > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ > +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rob_brennan at xxx.uk Mon Jul 31 13:06:41 2000 From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:06:41 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I don't think he's a real punk boy Message-ID: <20000731120641.9117.qmail@web313.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Birthdays are BLUDDY GRATE aren't they. Even when you have to go to work and get called an old giffa (only 25 fer gawds sake!) and then they present you with an inflatable sex doll painstakingly constructed from ordinary ballons. Ace. And then there's the pressies like record tokens ('the gift that keeps on giving' I suppose is a better slogan than 'like money but more limited') and the booze... Oh the bouze... Going down the pub for absolutely AGES and suddenly realising that you and your friends are in reality comic geniuses and everything you say never fails to make everyone laugh... And waking up the next day in a previously unparallelled amount of pain and suddenly there's the crushing realisation that a third of your life has disappeared only to be recycled as hilarious anecdotes by you, your family and your friends (they were laughing with me and not at me weren't they?)... Oh and going shopping guilt free 'cos its your birthday and you're allowed to indulge - am I the only boy who actually enjoys shopping? - and buy clothes you might only ever wear once. And TONS of CDs like Sulk by The Associates which has just been re-released and is a phucking wonderful glittery slice of mad 80s decadence. If only Billy Mackenzie were still alive and wailing today. And spending the whole of Sunday in the pub. Or even better a number of pubs. By the sea. Drinking. But I don't need it to be my birthday to do that. Everyone should really - better than church any day - and they don't water down the wine. Sorry again. Robster P.S. Might be some content in the next post - oh who am I kidding? ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idleberry at xxx.com Mon Jul 31 14:00:52 2000 From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 06:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: meet ups and hang ups... Message-ID: <20000731130052.1763.qmail@web612.mail.yahoo.com> Hello my sinister darlings, Well, seeing as I am back in Embra for the time being, at least until my gallant boyfriend comes to whisk me off to Bournemouth, I thought I'd offer you the chance to meet up with me? if anyone is up for it? I am going to a gig on Thursday 3rd August at the Tron in Embra, if any of you would like to come along and meet me. Its The Acoustic Underground at The Tron, with Neil Ashford. It starts at 7.30pm, and as I am going, thought any of you other high brow culture vulture festival goers might wanna pop along and say hello to me. Please feel free to e mail me and say if you wanna join me and meet up, as I would dearly like to meet some of my Scottish siblings. Was very sad I didn't get a chance to go to the sinister picnic, but this is my way of trying to make it up to you. In the meantime, heres a review of Mr Ashford from "Corduroy Smoke" The Embra indie darling fanzine. As for the hang up bit... well, my coat has a hook on it with which I am able to hang it up. arf. choke you later, Idles. corduroy smoke- The Edinburgh indie kid fanzine- SUMMER 2000 NEIL ASHFORD- CANNONS GAIT If music were a beverage, then this young man would almost certainly be coffee. Dark, strong, and incredibly addictive melodies. Not watered down, unlike most so-called acoustic bands that are currently making waves on the Edinburgh music circuit, Neil manages to blend beauty with a twist of bitterness in his lyrics. His voice is powerful, really, and quite possibly what could only be described as the tones of Thom Yorke and Stuart Murdochs lovechild. With a slightly scorched edge to it. Perhaps the best of these would have to be "Black River" with which Neil acomplishes what most muscians could only dream of. Black River launches us into a bitter, dark and haunting world of music, and recieves rounds of applause, not undeservingly, from a spellbound audience. While Neil remains a newcomer to the Edinburgh music scene, he is certainly injecting a much needed kick up the arse of acoustic music as it now stands. RATING: Starbucks could use this recipe for potency. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! 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WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david at xxx.uk Mon Jul 31 18:30:51 2000 From: david at xxx.uk (David White) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:30:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Loneliness MP3 Message-ID: Greetings folks, Just a quick post to let you know that I have just created an MP3 file of "Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner" recorded when the band appeared on Sky TVs Apocalypse Tube thing last year. For those who have never heard the song or even those who have heard the current MP3 that's doing the rounds, I would strongly suggest downloading this one cos it's very good quality and of course it's well performed by the band themselves, (and the lyrics are much easier to hear than in any other MP3 of the song I've heard.) To download it visit my site www.belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk and either click on the link on the home page or visit the discography, select Unreleased tracks then click the download. On a related subject, I am introducing a Clubs and events page in my site soon, so if you run a club which would interest B&S fans anywhere in the world or you are organisaing an event (picnic or whatever) then send me an email with time, date, location and all the other details and I'll give it a link. That's all for now, Dave david at belleandsebastian.freeserve.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From valium_pill at xxx.com Mon Jul 31 19:59:49 2000 From: valium_pill at xxx.com (i'm done faking my rampages, thankyou very much) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:59:49 EDT Subject: Sinister: shameless list abuse Message-ID: i know i know i know.. but.. i will include some actual b&s content at the bottom. i'm trying to start an e-zine... dedicated to women in the music industry... and i dont want it to be some small one person's point of view type zine.. i want it to be big and be written by a bunch of people... so.. if you're interested in being in that bunch of people, or just want more information.. please please please email me off list. either at this addy or at shakingthedoll at hotmail.com. ok, b&s content. belle and sebastian are not led by a female so they cannot be writen about in this 'zine. however, they may be alluded to if the Gentle Waves were written about, as they are led by a female. please do not kill me. xoxoxo Jes ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carle at xxx.com Mon Jul 31 22:45:45 2000 From: carle at xxx.com (carle groome) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:45:45 -0400 Subject: Sinister: on being new to submission and the dominant culture Message-ID: <3985F386.3377D2BD@rcn.com> hello nister sisters, i love this. in the morning, like bottles of milk, and each night, like the daily mail, i'm inundated and i welcome it! and not by glasses of gas for the lactose intolerant or 4th class bulk junk, but the intimate, humourous, coy, charming, passionate, eccentric (oh go on!) posts of the species belle&sebastianus pan globus! privy to the weird thoughts and odd interests, hinted perversions and (occasionally) pithy wit, i have found a reason to open my e-mail every day! (i know what you must say: "i hear that from all the boys!") so as this comes under the heading of virgin post, thought i'd pose a puzzler on a subject that pertains to the germaine of this particular plain. centuries past, when IYFS hit my laser, the title track fascinated me inordinately. ambiguity being one of my favorite things (esp. in language), the whole of b&s catalog keeps hitting me like the old fable of The Lady Or The Tiger(milk). (oh, incidentally, is there anyone around who still makes tapes of that august item for us US newbies?) (i know what you must say: cf.) but i digress. the song, IYFS, caught me because of the concepts that seemed to circle around the word "sinister". as you know, it also means "left-handed." but, being that the song contains no ref to anything "dexterous", it stumped me to go further in that direction. then i considered how much of the the message seemed to involve corrective remedies (?) to abberrant behaviours and the spiritual realm. (i.e. "she was into s&m and bible studies", etc.) and the repeated motif of "walking to death"... and then it hit--big sweaty feller with long pole striking brass Rank Organisation gong!--and things sort of fell into place. a bright lad named joseph campbell did these lectures on the comparitive philosophies of world religions and one of the one's i'd vidd'ied was on the hindu vedas. (altho' he used that as merely a point of departure to show that this pervaded native american folklore as well as african, arab, aborigine and eskimo, i think). there, he was talking about "the left hand path"--this is the hero's journey made when someone steps outside of the known realms of the kinship systems and tribal faiths (viz., "dexter" or "right-hand" path of the righteous and regular and, according to the distribution of the global demographic, the dominant hand) to find a solution to a disasterous situation or to grow beyond the accepted limits of power and prestige. and that journey has often been called the "death to the tribe" and also, invariably, begins with a long walk... then, there's also the question of the shaman's role in divining whether or not this is a worthy person for the task or, frequently, trying to dissuade him/her from taking the big leap ("...go off and see a minister..."). and as for the pervasive background sound of playgrounds, this isn't too far from, say, socrates at the agora, cautioning youth against accepting authority, even as he prods them with another "why". (perhaps that isn't enough evidence to proceed, but if you wish to put forward further arguements pro & con, you have the forum before you.) so then, it comes down to the fact that it would seem that a lot of us (and i by no means presume to speak for the whole), have, in what could be called our strange and beautiful (s&b) obsession with b&s, gone far from where the vendors of pop would have us perchance our purchase (1. to buy, to pay for; 2. to grab, to get a hold on--see? everything's subject to interpretation). we are, to one extent or another, following "the left hand path"/"feeling sinister" and, of course, at odds with the mass. (i hesitate to call them sheep--or "dolly's kids"--but...N'SYNC? Britney Spears?? Backstreet Boys??? Christina Aguilera??? did someone leave the xerox on?) so there you have it. is it thesis or feces? hope you enjoyed the trip. carle ps. sorry about all the parenthetical inclusions. just finished "infinite jest" and felt the urge to footnote. pss. oh, and i'm serious about tigermilk. i feel deprived! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox at xxx.com Mon Jul 31 23:56:06 2000 From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:56:06 GMT Subject: Sinister: Under more cars than there are Ls in British Leyland Message-ID: This list has fair exploded into a forest fire of action in the last week or so. Heck, I was close to excited. I'd like to respond to all that fascination, but first I want to tell you some old, and ageing, news. It's a tiny vignette about how Stephie T met one of his heroes, and I was lucky enough to be in the wings. Not in Wings, mind. That would have been *really* lucky. For those who don't remember Stephie, his last mail to sinister was something about sabre-toothed tigers and the toothlessness of Emile Heskey. It moved me at the time. I ended up in South Norwood. When I said 'forest fire', by the way, it was just a simple metaphor. London went off, swinging. Clubbing kids crashed by a street with no name, looking for Duran Duran's Pop Trash. I think that's what they said. Sainsbury's were flogging produce like there was no today; and there barely was. The hour passed nine, like a referee without a rag. It was as hot as July, 2000 - that much was hard to contradict. Stephie, he hit the scene by accident - he took a wrong turn in Covent Garden and found himself tumbling down the stairs. Angels. It was a matter of life and deaf. Me, I was loitering without rent, trying to phone a friend in Oxford Street, wearing woolly things, throwing bread. Don't doubt me, ask the bouncer; the one who told me, when I asked what kind of club night it was, just to be on the safe side, that it wasn't a club. Not much, though, will throw me; and I only threw the bread to evade its advancing staleness. As 9:30 approached I felt my gameboyplan was all wrong. I'd better handle this one from the inside. Breadless, heedless, I passed our friend ('my friend', he'd called me) on the door and descended for a bottle of milk. No, it wasn't milk, as it turned out. Down in the depths the heat was almost quietening. The crowds were nugatory, a thing of the future. The walls were like lava, drifting red and orange shapes, colours of flame. The electric bills were, yes, staggering. Seats floated like glutinous magma - yes, contradictorily. Pop fans and players let me join them. The generosity was all theirs. I pulled out a camera and watched it flail. I bought that bottle, had it poured into a glass, paid �13. That wasn't part of the plan. Believe me, kids, it wasn't a large bottle; and it was a smaller glass. But money was a dead sign here, a signal of that other world where the filed things are. Those popsters, anyway; they were joined by a piano player who was rumoured to be into Soft Rock. He'd brought no piano, just tales of the past: of the 70s, weirdly, of machines that played music on 8 'tracks'. They took a Cadillac battery to run, back on the highway, wind in your hair. He glanced at his hair. They assented, about the 8 'track' things, not the hair. Unlike Andy Bell in 1992, I was fazed. They were surprisingly unsurprised at my usual bemusement, without which the night wouldn't be itself. It was fun, I was gratified by their welcoming incomprehensible talk. At this point Stephie tumbled in, looking for soul food and a place to speak. His feet were happy, his hands rubbing along OK. I found myself back at the bar, talking to a couple of Americans. They wanted me to get them a T-shirt by which to remember the bar. I tried and I failed. They must settle for a matchbook or two. We were whirled and whisked like eggs to a corner, where I found myself looking straight at the one who was the ringleader. His labrador eyes plunged back into mine. An intrepid journalist came by and told me who the friendly Yanks were. I started to attempt reconstructing the significance of it all, as words trickled. The boss man was stevie the magnetic fields. He was in town to inspect the QEII, it seemed. He was playing live at a festival organized by Womack and Womack. Stephie T crashed in beside me like a Charlatans lyric. I sensed strange feelings, magical powers, emanate between the pair. Perhaps mututal respect began to flow. I tried to speak. - What's it like to play live? A cavernous dolour erupted from stevie the tobacco flans' mouth. - its about as easy as playing dead. The question, it was true, had been about as dumb as pop. I tried dumber. - Do you find anything worth seeing in London? Languidly he turned his wraithlike body and swept an arm around the room. Drinks clattered from tables, metres away. - decor. I wasn't into the lava thing myself, but best not to argue. These Chryslers could be packing heat. Somewhere a piano player spun a disc by Foreigner. I left Stephie T to pick up the threads which were laddering around us. - Do you think Brian Eno's a genius? stevie the testament filters the warp diaries raised his eyelashes. Planets crashed. - why yes, he uttered, the two words bearing meaning enough for ten. i based my early career on his record taking tiger mountain. Stephie saw an opening. He wanted to make connections. - Do you think Morrissey's a genius? A voice rumbled from within stevie the dimanche people. - of course i think him a genius i naturally find it obscene he is currently unrewarded with a contract for all he has recorded save only in hindustan or was it taiwan? Stephie grabbed a matchbook and started taking notes. The noise seemed to continue. - i caught a ladybug in a jar and killed it just for you thats why im drinking vodka in this awful bar in timbuktu. Somewhere we heard other words, rhymes too, drifting over, in counterpoint. - Well, you've gotta be crazy, baby To want a guy like me I asked stevie the glass melangeurs if I could take a photo of him. He waved a wrist in assent. The flash was summer lightning. He took the camera and gave me the same treatment. He raised a brow. - i have just noticed the colour of your sweater. its very interesting. very eighties. - Actually, I interjected, like a fool, we call them 'jumpers' over here. He gazed back at me unblinking. - jumper, sweater, its the same thing. cest la meme chose. Pause. - cest la meme chose as they say in alberquerque my best friend knows that i love her like a chicken loves a turkey He paused again. World passed through fields in space. - i like the cut. Cor - that was nice of him. To single out the cut of my jumper for special praise. I wasn't quite sure what he meant by it. I'd better check. - You like the cut of my jumper? He gazed at me disbelieving. Somewhere nand played 'sonic primrose'. - no. i was saying that i like the cut. its a music magazine that was produced in scotland in the late eighties. it featured pat kane, discussing the head bumps of muriel gray. they reviewed the first stone roses record in april nineteeneightynine, and gave it eight out of ten. His eyes drifted sideways, as though in a reverie. Again a low drone issued. - impossible that i should have known or you should have a clue that things would never be the same when we were dancing in july to the mid-period music of the brothers kane Stephie T could see that I was struggling. He tried to haul the keel back into shape. - Mr Jacobite Screenprinters, he asked, after what you said about Eno and Morrissey, I was wondering if you were ever a fan of the House of Love? stevie the low drama princes seemed to smile a dark lugubrious smile's corner. - its so silly it isnt really even tragic but darling you know how time flies swimming in your lonely eyes and everything is magic its true im blue ill never quite be thru with the dames names and the flawed chords purveyed by guy chadwick. Somewhere a piano player spun Huey Lewis. The scream split a floorboard. I made a note on my boy chart. Stephie T and stevie the marie lloyds affairs entered a deep discussion. A rumour floated that former members of green tamborine were in the building, but the claim was hazy. The Claim were hazy, too - no-one could seem to agree on whether any of their records had been any good, except a sturdy character in a 1954 World Cup T-shirt who bellowed affirmation. But that was miles away, in a watering-hole of a different volvic altogether, under oak beams and a stuffed mock-up of Henry's Cat; a pub in some City or other, guarded against Tories by dragons, or so the rumour went. It was a red herring, in this context: merely synchronous with Terence Stamp. Someone, somewhere, caught a bus. I realized that Stephie T was asking stevie the high peruvians about what instruments he'd be taking on the boat with him. How about a bass guitar? - au contraire les bass parts je prefere to be played upon a tuba i wouldnt have it any other way for all the collective farms in cuba Stephie nodded at me, and I scribbled this on a cribbed manger. It seemed like a useful tip for the future of our combo, after the marvels were capped and the quitters had called it quits. Marc Almond passed, eating cyanide. A gradual sense of novelty and strangeness, of life lived through some kind of convex lens, floated over us. Stephie and I looked at each other quizzically. We raised eyebrows at each other - only one apiece. We'd practised that for years. Slowly it became apparent that the whole thing was being videoed for posterity by Frank O'Hara, using a tiny camera inside his golden pocketbook. We turned black and white, then sepia. As 1900 rushed towards us - but from which direction? - Stephie pinpointed the source of our surprise. - Frank! he cried. I thought you were dead! The poet removed a fag from his mouth. - nah, he dragged in a white queen's accent, i just took a long lunch hour, is all. stevie the blue fire engines' manager appeared, carrying a piano. I shook her hand. She replied with vigour, more than I'd anticipated. Somewhere Bryan Adams' 'Into The Fire' played as I found myself flying across the room, knocking over burly Soft Rock fans on my way. Glass tinkled like ice. I stared up at a blue ceiling. I rose with only a few broken homes, rubbing my jumper. After tonight I had to look after this jumper. I'd better tell the kids about it asap. It dawned on me that her handshake had catapulted me into the toilets. I pulled out my matchbook again, leaned on the transparent urinal, looking at the people who live on the other side. Someone played Suicide. Or was it still Bryan Adams? Anyway, I pulled out a match and started to scrawl. Inspiration had struck, in the form of our encounter with stevie the contact lenders. I knew I had it in me now, the great song of my career, the summa of all I'd been trying to say. I nnoted the date in one corner - 24 July 2000 - and started to write. NOT FOR ALL THE SCHOOL BUSES IN CHERBOURG I remember that September When they were starting to doubt Clive Allen Honey, you should have cashed in your centimes At the chip shop Or the bureau de change It was going well. But I sensed eyes on me. I looked sideways, saw that another bouncer was seated in the lavatory area, looking askance and beady upon my pop-literary activities. I'd have to finish this later. Back in the bar stevie the fantastic meals' manager was playing a harp and a tambourine simultaneously. The sound quality seemed to have improved, though you could still make out Journey's hit 'Only Solutions', from the TRON soundtrack, underneath. Stephie T was articulating a theory of pop. It all came down to the conflict, he said, between Protestant individuality and Catholic guilt. stevie the five aegis didn't seem to buy it. He responded with bottomless whimsy. Yet he seemed serious. - sometimes when were dancing i recall those summer nights with lotte lenya but i wouldnt have them back again for all the lions in kenya He bought us cocktails. We never forgave him. We were enraptured. I spoke to stevie the journal pusher's sidekick. He said he'd sell me some bones, any time, for dollars down. Bowie was interested. Or was it Bowie? A piano player stuck on Blondie's 'Rapture'. stevie the idle hollies' harpist started to dance, singing in perfect tune along with the tuneless section about the man from Mars. Our revels were ending. We bought some Maltesers, but it didn't really do the trick. A member of the Go-Betweens passed. Pickily I felt that the quality of the company was declining. Stephie disagreed. We fell out over it. Picking ourselves off the floor and climbing back in through a bathroom window, we saw the waspish billboards the long crossword aces the roman orchids getting up to leave, with other tributary bands in tow. They had to go and practise for tomorrow. I imagined that sea-sickness could be a problem. Someone boiled a kettle of fish. It was liquid engineering. stevie the plastic babushkas left us with words of reassurance. They rhymed with 'abhorrence'. In the milky night Stephie and I made plans for the heartaches. We hardly ever saw each other again, for at least seventeen hours. I counted photographs of him. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ralvarad at xxx.edu Wed Jul 19 20:05:23 2000 From: ralvarad at xxx.edu (Anthony Alvarado) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 12:05:23 -0700 Subject: Sinister: the universe Is shaped exactly like the earth In-Reply-To: <20000815234307.14416.qmail@web2304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: and how say, i was wondering if any of you listees are Seattleites, or is that Seattlalions? Whatever it is I'm about to become one myself, moving to Seattle to live a city life and work for amazon.com, lemme know if you want the fun of showing someone around town. I have been very poor, so it is just today i got a hold of the new cd, with the acronym that kinda looks like FISHYCLAP, ...well if you squint. maybe. That and moonpix,very floaty isn't she? -anthony p.s. "the truly evil and the truly righteous are the only ones who never know hesitation" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+