From GardeningAtNight at xxx.com  Wed Mar  1 00:50:22 2000
From: GardeningAtNight at xxx.com (GardeningAtNight at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:50:22 EST
Subject: Sinister: she's losing it
Message-ID: <d8.1b79f0c.25edc34e@aol.com>

I am rapidly going crazy from stress and it's only Tuesday.  Even listening 
to the Belles isn't helping, especially because my mom keeps shouting up to 
my room about the latest school shooting for some morbid reason.

I realize this is list abuse but I'm quite jumpy right now and at least 
sending out a request might make me feel better.  I've got a research paper 
due Friday and it's on the subject of legalizing same-sex marriage in the US. 
 I'm taking the pro side.  Lots of you were talking a few weeks ago about 
Clause 28 which was sort of but not really about the same subject, so I 
thought I'd ask you all for help.  If there's any of you who would qualify 
yourself in even the least bit as an "expert" on the subject of same-sex 
marriage, could you please contact me off-list?  I'm supposed to interview 
"an expert on my subject" and incorperate it into my paper.  So if you fancy 
yourself learned on the subject, or have some sort of job involving it, or if 
you're willing to just speak your mind and you're not entirely in the dark, I 
will love you 'til I'm dead.

I hate school.  It's gotten so demanding all of a sudden and I can't handle 
it, mostly because I guess I'm too used to being lazy.  That's rather 
depressing to have to admit though.  When is the Sinister village opening 
anyway?  I know I'm not the only one who's feeling more and more like I need 
to move in already.  It will solve all our problems.  I'll try wearing some 
upside-down badges tomorrow and think only of twee things.

Samantha
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From rachel at xxx.uk  Wed Mar  1 00:54:30 2000
From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 00:54:30 -0000
Subject: Sinister: subject? you have to be joking! there's nothing IN my posts...
Message-ID: <000501bf8318$cae19b60$1515883e@preinstalledco>

for some reason i am still up despite meaning to go to bed ages ago cos i
have to be on a bus at TWENTY PAST SEVEN tomorrow morning!! i am renowned
for oversleeping and i can tell this is just not going to happen...my mum
(bless her) has already booked the time off work on the days of all my
morning exams to give me a sporting chance at actually making some of
them...but 7.20, that is foul...last time i saw the world that early i was
on my way to bed....

<got slightly distracted there>

anyway. hello. again.

you can tell i'm bored cos i've just read all the latest messages on the
website instead of going to bed like a good girl and reading the digest
tomorrow. that's the one thing i hate about being on the digest, you're
always a bit behind. better than having continual new mails though, my poor
puter can't cope.

 from my reading (there is a point to this) i discovered that alisdair had a
dastoor disaster and got me and lucy confused cos we both talk about
football a lot...i was quite flattered in fact, though lucy may not have
been...and in my defence i don't mean that to be my only topic of
conversation, but i lead a sad life :( so apologies for my dull rants...oh
matty elliott, £1.6m, we were well and truly robbed blind....

i've managed to lose a list crush vote...<sob>....serves me right for being
so careless...i wonder what i've done with it....

i had a b&s argument today. it was one of the ones i often have, the:

'arrrggghhhh his voice, it's crap' one. i'm sure it is familiar to all of
you ;)

but today was slightly different cos instead of me leaping to an emotional
and totally incoherent defence of our heavenly stuart like i normally do
(ends in me sulking going 'well i love them and him so fuck off ner ner ner'
which is not particularly constructive), me and my radiohead/placebo/hole
obsessed mates (three of the bands i hate more than any others in the
world...we have a lot of arguments) had a civilised discussion of what makes
a *good* voice and how a *good* voice isn't always necessary for making
GRATE music.

we didn't actually agree on this, but it's given me something to think about
all day when i should have been writing my 7, ooh in fact now 8 essays or
reading othello (i'm sure you'll all be happy to know i've blagged my way
out of my coursework), and also in college earlier tonight...well i had to
have something to do. anything rather than listen to banking at the turn of
the 20th century for 2 and a half hours....

<got distracted again...honestly i will get to it eventually. it's
interesting. really...?>

so i figure that weaker singers (i.e limited range, out of tune, slightly
weedy sounding...) often appeal far more to me than supposedly more powerful
ones. (i'm not very good at talking about music but i'll try anyway) i'm not
sure why, i just think that more emotional intensity and feeling and
identification is conveyed through the vocals of, say, ian brown, tim
burgess, stephen gately, jason pierce, and ...(and it hurts to include these
two as *weak* singers but even at my most biased i do recognise the
criticisms, even though i don't accept them)...mark owen and struan. these
are some of my fave singers, and they all have had the piss ripped out of
them big time for their vocals. but i certainly wouldn't swap them for all
the world for those of mick hucknall, thom yorke, george michael, cerys
matthews etc. all people who supposedly posess superior vocal talents.

that's not saying that i *only* like stuff by the tone deaf, but when it
comes down to it, it's the combination of songs AND vocals that does/doesn't
appeal, and crucially, if they complement each other. i mean, look at liam
gallagher. he's a fantastic singer but even he can't work miracles on
substandard noel tunes...they may as well let gem loose on the writing,
heavy stereo weren't that bad....

what was i saying?

not sure now, it's too late to keep on track.

oh yeah, so, to cut a very long and probably tedious tale a bit shorter, it
was nice to discuss something at school that got me thinking and exercising
those brain cells. even if it didn't involve alan bennett's use of the
monologue form and its effectiveness on an audience...

ooh, a note to owen:

don't be shocked about the music journalism suggestion...that's exactly what
my careers adviser keeps telling me to go for. she is obviously completely
oblivious to the fact that a) i can't write (something you can all vouch
for) and b) i know absolutely fuck all about music (as i have just proved).
though i must say, i do prefer this (fantasy)career path than the other
suggestions: telecommunications, retail management and social work, that she
has also came up with....why is it, just because i do sociology people
assume i have ambitions to be a social worker?? can't they just accept that
i picked it cos i thought it would be a doss, discovered i was wrong, and
have regretted it since? careers advisers: they talk shit.

i must go to bed now. i'm supposed to be on a bus in six and a half hours.
bollocks.

lovin' and leavin' you my sweetpeas so i can curl myself up in my duvet

rachel xxx


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From colin.mowat at xxx.net  Wed Mar  1 01:18:49 2000
From: colin.mowat at xxx.net (Colin Mowat)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 01:18:49 -0000
Subject: Sinister: You probably know this already......but in case you don't.....
Message-ID: <001c01bf831c$1a1b8f80$facd2cc3@default>

Wednesday 1 March 2000
00:43

Dear People,

a pinch and a punch, first day of the month to you all.........

I haven't read anyone else posting this.........hope I'm not repeating it
because I missed it.....

running up my phone bill tonight tracking down stuff on the
net.........mostly to do with work, but also got distracted from that and
went to Jeepster (http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/).....with the
thought of purchasing a slipcase for my EPs...there not selling them yet,
but they have got a picture of it, the collection is it seems to be called
"Lazy Line Painter Jane" ( you have to keep coming in and out of the sight
until you get the right cover), not "Error: Bookmark: Not Defined" as
reported by Lamacq after the rerun of the Bowly set........


also........

under news on the sight.I quote......

"belle & sebastian are currently still recording their fourth studio album
scheduled tentatively for release in summer 2000 (this date is subject to
change depending on when the album is completed). the band are also planning
a possible three track single to be released before the album. no news has
yet emerged from the studio on the progress being made, so it is a real
'wait and see' moment."


and then I followed the links to these photos, which I'm sure most people
have seen, but people fairly new to the list, like myself, may not
have.........


Black Session photos

Black Session's photographies
12 Black & White Photographies during the Black Session (French radio
session) also try

http://lorseau.citeweb.net/pzique/session/belleseb/

other photos from USA

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4967/bs.html

well then I had to get back to work on tracking down info on Lacan and Perls
and other work stuff

sweet dreams

Colin

Ps. tonight I have been listening too

Tim Buckley - Once I Was
IYFS - B&S
John Peel - Radio One
Cheap Trick - In Color
and at this very moment  - Snow Patrol - Velocity Girl (on absolute gravity
single)

right one more important e-mail to write then off to bed.........





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From alexander.borgia at xxx.ca  Wed Mar  1 02:41:12 2000
From: alexander.borgia at xxx.ca (Alexander Borgia)
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:41:12 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Application for employment.
References: <20000229011455.1369.qmail@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <38BC8348.64F94788@sympatico.ca>



Kate Mulloy wrote:

>

> Velocity!- I meant to compliment you on your most wonderful village...can I
> play a part as well?...Do you have someone to run the health food store?  I
> can be the resident tree-hugger as well if you wish...think of it!...to
> spend a summer wasting; selling granola, wearing Berkies, and hugging
> maples...Belle/Sebastian-- are you reading this now?
>
>
> Love in 12pt font,
> Katie

Dear Miss Katie:

Thank you for your application for employment with Rabbit Brand (tm).
Regrettably I must inform you that we are currently not seeking anyone with your
qualifications at this time. While we are looking for persons in our rabbit care
operations, we do not feel that a person of your qualifications would be
comfortable in that type of work.

We would like to inform you that while we cannot offer you a position, we are a
very environmentally friendly company and we felt that a person with your
qualifications might be of interest to our parent corporation the firm Bear,
Bear, Bear, & Nephew, & Son. We have therefore taken the liberty of forwarding
your application and résumé to our parent corporation and they have indicated to
us that they will contact you directly.

Thank you for considering Rabbit Brand (tm)

Sincerely

Rabbit Brand (tm) Board of  Management.





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                 BEAR, BEAR, BEAR, & NEPHEW, & SON

                  London - Paris - New York - Tokyo - Toronto
                      Global Headquarters: Sinister Village





Dear Miss Katie:

Recently we received a copy of your application for employment and your résumé
from our subsidiary company Rabbit Brand (tm). We are quite impressed with your
qualifications and would like to offer you employment with the firm Bear, Bear,
Bear, & Nephew, & Son in the capacity of president of one of our newly developed
subsidiaries, Nuts and Berries Brand (tm). We would also like to offer you the
Chair on the Board of Directors for Nuts and Berries Brand (tm). We offer you a
very competitive package along with the normal benefits for Directors of the
firm, including free rabbit service.

Nuts  and Berries Brand (tm) is a very young company and its growth potential
will be yours to exploit. Our goal is to provide a wide selection of health
foods including many varieties of gourmet nuts and berries. We are hoping to
expand into the packaged foods market. You will be entirely responsible for the
advertising campaigns targeted to all species as we attempt to expand into
diverse markets.  We are also looking into possibilities of producing our own
maple pure syrup from maple forests recently acquired in an undisclosed
location.

Should you accept this position, you will immediately dive into an interesting
project as Nuts and Berries Brand (tm) has secured the contract to cater the
upcoming royal wedding between Queen Velocity Farewell and  Prince Percival III.
We are also seeking royal warrants so that we may place By Royal Appointment
stickers on everything we sell.


Thank you for your consideration,

Sincerely

Bear, Bear, Bear, & Nephew, & Son..













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From Pelican303 at xxx.com  Wed Mar  1 02:56:06 2000
From: Pelican303 at xxx.com (Pelican303 at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:56:06 EST
Subject: Sinister: German Village...off-key mommy...see the connection?
Message-ID: <3f.18d301d.25ede0c6@aol.com>

Oh my dearest sinistereenes...
First of all, I would like to state for the record, that I for one am all in favor of men in skirts. I've always prefered it (much to my mother's chagrin).  Besides that, it would be quite appropriate. Follow the logic.  B&S--->Scotland---->kilts.  Get it?  Good then.
I must say, we had better get this village going soon. I was so excited that I ordered the tea-picking monkeys, and a bit prematurly it would seem, for they have arrived and the opening of the actual tea plantation is nowhere  in the near future.  Hmmmm... well if anyone wants a monkey (I know it isn't woodland creature companionship, but hey, they make funny faces) please contact me...and do it quickly, they're making a mess.
I am immensly intrigued by the discussion of good voice/bad voice and, on a deeper level, what exactly is good music.  Well I would like to put forth a theory and see if you all agree or disagree.  A while back (high school) in philosophy, we discussed aesthetic judgement and I came up with my definition of aesthetic beauty - it is the quality of something that creates a feeling of nostalgia (oooh...topic connections...I'm so swift) for a time we might not neccessarily have known (at least not in this life, but that's getting religious and it's probably safer not to go there).  Well recently, this has come back to haunt me.  I'm a borderline miserable at school, and have recently been obsessing with memories of a certain place outside of DC that my parents used to take me.  It had a theatre and housed a puppet company and had an old german carosel and a closed down amusement park...always reminded me of an old village in the German black forest...anyway, that's my nostalgia ri!
!
ght there.
But I digress.  I think beauty, in one way or another, is all about nostalgia.  I know that was my initial reaction to B&S...they took to another place that I felt, somehow, I already knew.
Well...thinking along these lines, perhaps the voices we are drawn to are like the voices that sang to us in our youth...our mums and dads and grandmums and dads.  I know my mother was always the singer, and I also know she never had the greatest voice.
Of course, I still don't understand how someone could find this in Napalm Death...and I don't know anyone who sings lullibyes to their kiddies a la Celine Dion.  
So perhaps my theory is a crock o shite.  Anyway, what dy'all think?  What kinds of voices do your mummsies and dadsies have?
If you have read this far, I would like to restore your respect for me (ha ha) by showing that I DO know when to just be quiet.
He jumps on his mod scooter and zooms off,
Rob...
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From keythkeyth at xxx.net  Wed Mar  1 03:14:07 2000
From: keythkeyth at xxx.net (keith mclachlan)
Date: 29 Feb 00 19:14:07 PST
Subject: Sinister: what is a jaffa cake?
Message-ID: <20000301031407.3748.qmail@ww190.netaddress.usa.net>

i've just been wondering what makes a jaffa cake?  the bird nest roys have
their wonderful song jaffa boy but the recipe is not within the lyrics as far
as i can tell, only just yearnings for relationships with 'little boys with
orange lips and chocolate on their minds'.

i was politely corrected when i bashed anne-mari for her horrible faux-soul
vocals on that picture centre record, but then there is someone named
anne-mari who is credited with the vocals in the liner notes.  it must be an
elaborate hoax.  thankfully i was able to listen before i bought it so i was
not taken.  i still like that trembling blue bob sings all of the songs on the
new album(which is wonderful).

my mother just emailed me, how odd to reply to my mom with the hope that she
will not critique my poor grammar and my inability to use capital letters.

  anyone else watch the beach boys show from the last two evenings?  i was
trying to figure out whose point of view it was told from?  mike love was made
out to be a bit of a hero i thought and he seems the one most likely to cash
in on the beach boys brand name.  made me wonder why my girlfriend won't buy
me that copy of 'smile' at the local record store, also made me wonder if
there will ever be any bands again with such an abundance of voices and
talent?  most bands today have nary a singer among them let alone four.  i
miss vocal harmonies.  maybe i will need to become a backstreet fan.  

keith m

anyone else think this will be the last belle and sebastian lp?
ps-is van dyke parks really such a twat?

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From mkl206 at xxx.edu  Wed Mar  1 03:34:36 2000
From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**)
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:34:36 -0500
Subject: Sinister: the virgin suicides
Message-ID: <v04003a01b4e218deffeb@[128.122.88.169]>

ok, so i picked up the soundtrack to the movie today and i'm playing it
right now.  it's really gorgeous.  but how come they used the font from the
godfather???  coupled with the line "a sofia coppola film".  urk.  i get
very jealous of people who get to be married to spike jonze and make films
cause their father is  a rich and powerful filmmaker.  just fall down a
well.  so there.  i think that showed them.  oh, but i love air.  and now
i'm kind of curious to see the film.  but I'M NOT GOING TO LIKE IT.

i went to go see pitch black the other day and made a wonderful discovery.
that discovery is VIN DIESEL.  i hear you all asking yourselves, what
person ahd the foresight, the ability, the superior luck to be named VIN
DIESEL?  he's all man, brawny and mirror reflective eyes.  sure he's an
evil killer, but that's just because nobody ever loved him.  well, i'll
show him what real woman love is.

speaking of, i saw the a-team this last weekend.  i finally understand one
of peter miller's jokes!  that brings my new total up to three.  yes, well,
we can't all be children of the '70s raised in northern england or
wherever.  his life is an enigma shrouded in a mystery shrouded in cartoon
references with characters like rupert and billingsly and other weird
things.  and basque terrorism.

so yes.  that's my life.  and i get a serge gainsbourg cd.  on the cover he
looks very rugged.  that serge, he's all sex on a stick.

ok.  um, i'm out of heeeeeeeere.

xox
megan

mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu

are we not men?  we are magnetic fields.
http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/
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From Walkn10 at xxx.com  Wed Mar  1 03:56:54 2000
From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:56:54 EST
Subject: Sinister: what is a jaffa cake?
Message-ID: <37.1fadcd1.25edef06@aol.com>

In a message dated 2/29/00 10:24:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
keythkeyth at netscape.net writes:

<< anyone else watch the beach boys show from the last two evenings?  >>

Oi Vey!  For those who don't know, the Beach Boys are the end-all-be-all of 
music for me.  The only band who can top B&S in my book.  With this in mind, 
yes I trudged through the mini-series for the past two nights hoping to have 
my mind changed with regard to TV movies (i.e.- I fucking hate them).
All in all, I thought it started out pretty spot-on and then turned a bit 
crap.  The one scene that totally made my skin crawl was were the boys were 
doing the vocals to "Wouldn't Be Nice" and, as usual, Mike and Brian were 
going at it.  Mike said Pet Sounds was "worthless ego music" when Carl steps 
in and, with perfectly stomach-turning drama, sighs "Michael, what does that 
matter when you have music like THIS?" as he motions to the headset playing 
the FINISHED vocals of WIBN, "How can you hear music like this and not want 
to be a part of it?"  Other than that scene I found it pretty decent.  I 
thought the guy who played Murry Wilson was pretty ace, and the scene where 
the boys' mom chews him out for selling the songs was GRATE (as everyone 
seems to be spelling).  I watched the Brian Wilson Biography on A&E a few 
days before the TV movie and I just found it hilarious how they took scenes 
and memories straight out of that special and put them in the movie.  It 
insured historical accuracy and probably kept alot of unnecessary 
tear-jerking out of the mix, but it was just like watching the Biography 
twice (except Marilyn is alot hotter in the movie).  You've also got it 
backwards, Mike Love is the fucking prick of the group (as anyone on Sinister 
will tell you).  He sued Brian for $5 million dollars last year, he tours 
under the Beach Boys tag by himself, plus he bragged to everyone how he was 
the one who purposely drove Brian insane.  I hate that fucker and his stupid 
hats.
Keith- if I were you, I'd save my money on "Smiley Smile" and try to pick up 
the "Good Vibrations" box set. Its so amazing!  5 discs, and the 5th disc is 
nothing but tracks of Brian building the songs in the studio, or 
stack-o-vocals type stuff where its strictly them singing.  The 
stack-o-vocals mix of "California Girls" will send shivers up your spine!
You know, I also think this album "could" be B&S last.  Not because of any 
rumor I've heard, but as taxing as its become to make this album, plus Stuart 
D's departure, it would seem to make it likely.  I hope its not, thats for 
sure.
I have to write a college essay as though it were a personal journal entry 
for September 20, 2030.  This is so lame I could cry.
Love and Cabinessence

Steve C.

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From ksgljl78 at xxx.net  Wed Mar  1 04:21:41 2000
From: ksgljl78 at xxx.net (jason luther)
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:21:41 -0500
Subject: Sinister: a GRATE big thank you
Message-ID: <002801bf8335$a9a2fe40$9c891b26@oemcomputer>

i would just like to say thank you to those in #sinister a while back that
convinced me to get a turn table, its BLUDDY GRATE (im really sorry i dont
remember who you were, im mind has long since escaped me). having to take
the care of not scratching the albums, and the whole 'feel' of vinyl is
wonderful. i definatly encourage everyone who doesnt have a record player,
to get one, and then get all of the belle and sebastian records you can
find.
    someone also inquired about a good tab/chords page for elliott smith
here you go: http://members.tripod.com/~pitseleh/elliottsmith.html it has
like every song. i just hope you like retuning your guitar heh heh. not to
put too fine of point on it, but velocity girl said my name was jason
cutler, its really jason luther, but no biggie i just wont fix her leaky
faucet, kidding of course :)
    oh, and it will always be corn and limp biscuit. so HAH...
    sorry i dont have any interesting anecdotes to share with all of you
fine people, although i did see the first robin of the spring this morning
YEAAA.

only about a minute this time....

jason the new appreciator of vinyl

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From littlearsonist at xxx.com  Wed Mar  1 04:49:13 2000
From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia)
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:49:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: you wanna piece of me??
Message-ID: <20000301044913.24514.qmail@web113.yahoomail.com>

hallo.

right.  rachel said something about having to argue with her
friends about struan's voice.  i have also had this fight, usually
with friends who are *gulp* 'nsync fans.  hmph.  i have no formal
training (save for the children's church choir) but i think it's a
good voice.  he hits notes that would make a grown man cry.  or
groan ;)  

/me sends massive, massive props to laurallew -- our southern
belle milkmaid chaperone -- for my lil birthday tribute last
tuesday.  i don't remember writing a few of them, but the lollipop
one ...
> "But they gave me a purple lollipop, and who can be upset with a

> lolli in her mouth? (erm, yeah...)"
.... made me so proud, it was so tarty.
miss laura, i love you!  come back to #sinister; we miss you!  

right.  so.
sinister village:  miss amandaXbeambugX, who had had to unsub due
to relocating and being disconnected for a while, is now rejoined
but still in the nursery (where i hear she is getting on quite
nicely and making lots of friends and sharing her toys and playing
well with others), but she would very much like to be the
GARDNER... is that position still open??  she can come in from a
hard day of planting bulbs or whatever it is that gardners do --
because lord knows the only thing i ever grew was one lonely stalk
of corn -- and walk around the corner to MILK&HONEY, the
cruelty-free ice cream shoppe which has been mentioned by me (and
i suppose, honey, that you Could wear a nice demure dress but you
sure as hell ain't serving Over The Counter -- back to the sink
for you!) and which will also offer tofutti for the vegan listees.
 even though this will be a Cruelty Free shoppe, with milk from
cows milked lovingly in our own backyard.  "my, jenny, how you
well you grasp those udders...."

speaking of ice cream scoopers...  our own lovely jared (a.k.a.
paralis) might very well be scooping ice cream At This Very
Moment.  hmmm...  do you get to wear an apron, dear?  what do you
wear underneath it...?  

erica macarthur is the new crack, the new black, and all around
GRATE and glam and gorgeous, and if you haven't gone to the Your
Slip is Showing gallery DO IT NOW: 
http://www.missprint.org/sinister/slipups/

tart, adj., -er, -est. 1. sharp to the taste.  2. sharp in
character or expression.
tart, n. 1. a small pie without a top crust, filled with fruit or
custard. 2. a prostitute.

notice PIE and CUSTARD in the definition.
notice jared's email name: custard pie appreciation consortium
notice also prostitute.  hmmm.



that'll be all.


        xoxo,
         ree



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"hearts don't break.
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From as_fein at xxx.com  Wed Mar  1 05:18:19 2000
From: as_fein at xxx.com (The Magnificent HEMO)
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:18:19 PST
Subject: Sinister: looking for Min
Message-ID: <20000301051820.51036.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hey kids,
Does anyone on this list know a min?
he is this guy i met a party on minna.
I'm trying to get in touch with him,
e-mail me if you do.  as_fein at hotmail.com

thanks!
k
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From lookingdownward at xxx.net  Wed Mar  1 08:21:38 2000
From: lookingdownward at xxx.net (Custard Pie Appreciation Consortium)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 03:21:38 -0500
Subject: Sinister: * Who ate some dodgy curry, and got into trouble.
Message-ID: <38BCD311.5D6F01FB@crosswinds.net>

Hi, all you foxy foxy sinistereanies,

Our good mummy seems a bit distressed about the position she's taken
thus far in the Sinister village; were it not for that, I'd be really
curious to know how many people remember the ill-fated collective story
and (the remarkably worse-fated) collective limerick ideas, and of those
people who don't remember, what proportions blocked out the horror of it
all, and who really just forgot.

Happy Leap Year Day to those lucky Alaskan Belles fans who can still
celebrate it. Mine was an utter flop; but I'm resolved to do better come
2004.

Yestre-day morning I continued the saga of defying my Anglophilia by
going to the dentist. This is now my third Monday in a row; it's almost
like I've got a boyfriend. Last week, there was a really sweet moment
when my dentist told me that I had 'nice canals'. I closed my eyes,
tried not to feel the novocaine or the drilling, and pretty cleared
effaced the fact that my dentist is a middle-aged man with silly-looking
glasses, bad hair and a moustache, in favour of the image that he was
really just a floppy-haired English boy. In tonnes of make-up. It was
almost a highly erotic situation. Almost.

Robbie Pelican I'm sure drawled this with impeccable timing:

> I would like to state for the record, that I for one am all in
> favor of men in skirts.

I would like to make a point of disagreeing with this. Men in kilts is
all well and fine (as long as they don't sissy out and wear pants
underneath), but the whole point of wearing a skirt (or, rather, the
whole two points of wearing a skirt) is lost when men wear them as men
simply don't have the hips for it! Not that I mean to say that men
*never* look good in skirts, as in wonderful urban areas there seem to
be quite a few, but they seem to be much less common than the men who
either look like men trying to look like women with bad figures or the
men who can actually pass for women with bad figures. I can't remember,
though, the last time I saw an ordinary cross-dresser. Has it grown
unfashionable?

What's the point of this? Arse-dancing. Really, now. It's as unfair of
me to say that no man looks good in any skirt as it is for Leyla to
flagrantly and repeatedly imply that nobody can look good arse-dancing.
Which is why I'd like to take this opportunity to put forth the notion
that the Sinister Village Dance Academy (there has to be one, hasn't
there?) offer special classes in arse dancing. Come now, there *is* some
sense in it:  the kids are going to do it anyway, whether we like it or
not, and they ought to know how to do it right. How many times are we
going to have to have it proven to us that avoiding a known problem and
preaching abstinence simply doesn't work for it to take?

My, I'm feeling contentious. I'd better not finger an instructor.

Erica's gallery has been up long enough now for certain images to have
lost their fat L@@K AT ME! border, and nobody has yet put up anything
legitimately vulgar. I must say I'm disappointed, not only in all of
you, but in myself, for having not personally done so. But, really, it's
not my fault:  can a boy make it to 19 in this world anymore without
realising the thong panties are a bad idea? Feel free to mail me
privately with your thoughts/experiences on this intriguing and
universally relevant subject.

I hope everybody here sees what a desperate façade all of this is, and
that I'm really a quiet, reserved person. The World Champion Heavyweight
Introvert and not, as Marie Elia so succinctly put it last week:

> Ever Sexy, Ever Tarty, and Ever Leather-Clad.

Laura Llew painted a similar picture, but that was taken so hideously
out of context (No, I don't remember the context! but Yes, I'm sure I
was misrepresented!), so I won't work to refute it. Not that I could,
anyway, at the rate I'm going.

I've had two Sini-village job offers, and I must publicly decline the
one that I was publicly offered. I don't know that relevant experience
should immediately disqualify one for Sini-village employment, but in my
case, it really ought to. A boy apparently also can't in this krazy!
modern world reach 19 without learning that, no matter how well you try
to maintain your physique, no matter how many hours one spends jogging
and swimming, no matter how beautifully colour-coördinated one's outfit
is, men and average customers do not appreciate one's particular
inclination to wear hotpants and knee-socks. Even after one hikes up the
apron to it's clear from all sides that one's really wearing those
hotpants.

And isn't it patently obvious by now that my proper place is across the
counter from Marie?

Somebody a ways back wondered about the possible existence of
pornography in the sini-village, and I must say that I'm in favour of
it. With the sole qualification that it be for the people who really
want nothing more, and not for the people who really want other people.
For the latter, we should erect something of a charitable hospital where
lonely folks can come in and have their sorrows relieved and their
self-images repaired. I'm sure you all know what I mean, and shame on
you for thinking it!

This, though is a pale extension of Adam Apparatus' now-legendary
kissing-booth idea; as such, I'd like to nominate him as head nurse. The
ordinary nursing-staff would have a fairly high turnover rate, and would
be comprised largely of people convicted of minor crimes (it *is*
community service, after all), as an alternative to picking up garbage
or breaking rocks by the roadside. There would be tenured positions for
those sordid types who really might enjoy it, and the rest of the
employee body would be made up of people randomly chosen from the
populace. Quite like jurors. But, as a measure of good faith, I'd like
to enter myself as one of the first staffers, to see the operations go
smoothly.

Oh, dear. /me hurries frantically through memories looking vaguely for
content.

Yes!

I looked this up in the archives already, though, which I must say are
now quite fantastic. Plastic Fantastic, even, as you can search even for
things like 'arse muscles' and 'fisting malarkey' (both of which I
didn't search for, btw, but conjecture nonetheless).

I bought the Brian Jonestown Massacre's 1998 release 'Strung Out in
Heaven,' and have been loving it ever since. My nostalgia is 1968,
thankyouverymuch! I was looking through the notes on the inside, and
among the list of thank-you's is named Belle & Sebastian! Can anybody
(yes, of you seven of twelve hundred who's still with me by now) draw me
a little diagram of the connexion between the two?

I can't believe I'm feeling tarty enough to send this. It's probably
just a cry for discipline.

-Paralis.

Megan didn't discover Vin Diesel; but she did manage to make him GRATE.
Sort of like Monty Python and wensleydale cheese. It's like he's got all
the good things about being one half of Right Said Fred without actually
having the social stigma of being one half of Right Said Fred. And if
that's not perfect, I don't know what is...

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From kittenmouse at xxx.com  Wed Mar  1 09:55:00 2000
From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (Andrea Young)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 01:55:00 PST
Subject: Sinister: content including things about erica, brandt and other things, i guess
Message-ID: <20000301095501.35239.qmail@hotmail.com>

hello,
i'm listening to pulp's 'being followed home' right now.

i especially enjoyed your website, erica.  i think i'll be submitting some 
clothes pics to the "slip-up" page soon, as soon as i get a scanner.  i 
swear i've got lots of interesting clothes, i just don't ever wear them.

i can't believe it...brandt, you met THE bruce mccullough??  he is only my 
fave kid in the hall...they didn't come thru my town, for some reason, 
skipping portland AND seattle.  argh.  so, what did you say to him?  what 
did he say to you??

i dunno, what else exciting can i talk about...nothing really...the b&s z to 
a show went off fine, but i only got about 1/3 of the way thru the list in 
1.5 hours...eek.  i recorded some of it, omitting my horrible 
commentary...i'm a horrible dj--trust me, i'll never get a job reading the 
news on NPR.

also, i'm probably going to flunk both my drawing and printmaking classes, 
since i'm supposed to have a 100 page sketch book filled completely (both 
sides of pages) by next week or something...and 100 prints done for the 
printmaking class...oh well, f*ck it, do i care what i get in those wanky 
classes?  not really..is wanky even a word?

andrea kittenmouse
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From rafa_pop at xxx.com  Wed Mar  1 10:15:40 2000
From: rafa_pop at xxx.com (rafa pop)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 02:15:40 PST
Subject: Sinister: B&S DJs ...
Message-ID: <20000301101540.72805.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hello Supercuties..

Just a few lines to announce you that Beans Geddes & Richard Colburn will be 
Djing  at Mond Club , the place where action is, in Barcelona, on Friday the 
17th of March (is this the proper sequence of words ?? uppsss ) .  So if 
those days you're visiting this part of the world , I'll see you here . 
Sensibility and swing on the turntables...


Sunny cheers....... Rafa

PS : E-mail me if you need any more information .....rafa_pop at hotmail.com

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From Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com  Wed Mar  1 11:14:35 2000
From: Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com (Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:14:35 +0000
Subject: Sinister: "Donkeys live a long time. None of you has ever seen a dead
	 donkey."
Message-ID: <80256895.003C8AA4.00@gbemea05.emea.jwt.com>



If anyone can tell me where I found the subject line, they win a giant size
Jaffa cake. I've been melting normal size ones down for several weeks now, and
I've got one as big, round and tasty as Mick Cooke's smiley face stored under my
mattress. I'll have it flown over suspended beneath a chopper - one for the UFO
enthusiasts.

Mark Casarrrotto squeaked:

>Stuart Murdoch (why doesn't he post any more?) mentioned "a lot of nun". It
>seems this wasn't only my illicit schoolboy fantasy

which sounds like a very bad habit :)

Francesca:

>I was in a very bad mood today. in my class we're all wondering about the
>people who was born on a 29/2. when is their birthday in the years without
>29/2?

They only have a birthday every four years. My friend Arthur was a "leap baby",
and despite having lived 24 years, is legally only 6 years old. He's in his
second year at nursery school, from which I occasionally pick him up, and we
discuss colouring in and sing the alphabet over a couple of pints.

Jenowl hooted prettily:

>bawbag

which is a smashing word. I'm going to use it every day.

Last of all, and probably least of all (it being B&S content and all), I was
chatting to my bruv last night (in a rare moment of family bonding). He is a
radio entertainment journalist, and has to cover the Brits on Friday. Apparently
last year was a nightmare, mainly because he and a bunch of other journos were
standing outside after the awards for hours in the rain, waiting for, yes, Belle
& Sebastian. Inevitably they didn't come out, not that any of the daft bawbags
would have recognised Richard and Mick if they had (this is my brother, who has
been known to ask "Which one is Liam?" at Oasis parties). Anyhoo, the upshot was
that he later got a call from a Scottish radio station accusing him of being
anti-Scottish for not getting the interview. What madness!

My brother shot to fame in the crazy world of journalism for getting Brian
"slap-head" Harvey sacked from East 17 by asking him about his drug intake.
That's quality journalism, that is.

Oh, just briefly, I've been struck by how much our Sinister village is starting
to resemble Animal Farm, especially in light of Miss Scarlet's glorious fashion
revolution. Altogether now: "Three buttons good, two buttons bad"...

So long, bawbags

J. D. Salinger

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From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk  Wed Mar  1 11:42:01 2000
From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:42:01 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: QuaDroPheNic NigHtmAreS...
Message-ID: <20000301114201.12161.qmail@web3004.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi there you sweeties...
well...
S
      P
             R
                    I
                           N
                                   G
IS HERE..!!!
What does that mean? are we getting to feel human
again and not some sort of
              "WaLkiNG CLosEtS"? 
with all those clothes piling on us... GRRRRRRRRRR...
Colin M. mentioned
                 NoStALgiA
"Nostalgia" is a Buzzcocks LP... and that's the 1st
thing that came to my head... but then... I thought...
mmmmmm... of a little girl, just 10 years old,
browsing at her ankle's records, finding a double
Beatles' LP
and listening for the very first time to
           StRawBerRy FieLDs FoReVEr...
I thought then that this was the most beautiful song
ever! still is in my top10 list of fav songs...
J.D.Salinger (or Jeremy Simon) whatever... said
 
> Can I be the village reclusive American author?
*Can* I be?? Dammit, I *am*! Why does everyone ask?
Just be! <

and he is *RiGht"... yer... just be... whatever you
want... it's just that we need a plan especially now
if Simon Aurell creates the village site...
Another thing concerns our beloved HoNeY...
Honey our dearest don't wanna be the sinister village
                       MaYoR
but... hold your breath...!!! he wants to be an
                 AiRstEaWRdeS
                 in our local
S    and of course, he's going to wear one           A
I    one of these uniforms that are going            I
N           to be SilVeR and PinK                    R
I    and a pantyhose and a little twee hat           L
S    and make everyone feel comfortable              I
T    and cosy and bring drinks and lollies           N

E      ..................................            E

R       and smile smile smile a lot..!!              S
So,Honey is going to be an airstewardess and that's
it!
  That means, we are in desperate need for a MaYoR...

My dear J.D Salinger asking again....where the village
is going to be situated...
I think that's something we have to decide together...
                      all of us
I thought at first of Corsica... cause of the climat
but, really Scotland sounds great in my ears... but
it's so rainy and cold there... isn't it? and all us
guls with sleek hair will suffer... oh... anyway....
         M a J o R i t Y   R u L e S

  David Moore mentioned "pantisocracy" in Pensylvania
and made me think of another experiment of 
              ComMunAl LiVinG
in West Roxbury, MAss, now Boston area... known as 
              The BrOoK FaRm
created in 1841 by some trnscendetalist authors such
as R.W.Emerson, Henry Thoreau, Bronson Alcott,
Nathaniel Hawthorne and others... and in 1844 the
village's name was altered to PhALanX... based on the
socialistic theories of the french philosopher Charles
Fourier...
Some people are definately ahead of their era...
                  scary, isn't it?
Another thing is... I'd like to apologise to Jason    
          (Luther not Cutler) 
I'm so sorry Jason... do forgive me and come and fix
my broken toaster!!! and my broken TV!!! and my broken
hairdryer!!! and... yer... well...
 I can say that I'm very sad lately, very very sad...
I'm going through one of my "blue periods" and as I
said to a friend last night in #sinister when he
asked:
         "Blue period? Like Picasso?"
"Yer, like Picasso, but he was creative, me I'm just  
                    catatonic"
Oh Yes I Am... 
I received the best package ever yesterday!!! the
       popest! coolest! package ever!
  among other stuff it had a videotape with B&S...
who are these kids kissing like that in
                "dirty dream #2"?
               I was so jealous!!! 
and it also had a lollipop... I love lollipops        
            especially lemon flavour...
   I have a lollipop in my mouth whenever I DJ...
it's so cool!! But this lollipop was probably James
Bond's Lollipop stolen from him!!! I mean, it's a kit,
you know.. it has everything... a tiny pencil and a
rubber, and even a small magnifying glass...
amazing... and the lolly can be replaced... I'm going
to use this lollipop kit as a port clés for my 
                     scooter keys
Juicy Lucy said she'd be honoured to have me at her
B&B
for my honey moon but I have to give myself in
orgies... I don't know Lucy... I'm afraid this is not
my type... I'm very oldfashioned and shy I'm afraid...
but for you...
           well... I'll give it a try!!!
          and the world stopped turning...
lots of people are telling me they daydream of the
sinister village... and looking forward to move in
there... I am too... I mean, why not? Crazier things
have happened... why not indeed...
I've heard something else yesterday that pissed me off
completely... of a listee who has been laughed at in
his College from rich guys cause he's poor...
Now can you believe that? I would love to go there and
kick the f** twats!! really... or go with one of these
                   BiG FiRe GuNs 
    and burn them down... down down to the ground!!
Who are they anyway... judging the
          "misery of the lower classes"?
I really wish we had our village and exile people like
that!!! that'd be the cruelest punishment... YEY!!!
M
      O
               N
                       E
                                 Y
Our sinisterian monetary system is falling apart....
I'm asking you sweet peas once more.... what's going
to           be our mean of trade/exchange? 
I have an idea!!!
               L o L i P o P s !
but then lollipops will be overated same as money!!!
Hey... help me out here, will you?
Have to d*a*s*h...
A big SpRinG KiSs to you all...
Love + Lambrettas
Vel
XXXOOOXXX
                     
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From messentw at xxx.uk  Wed Mar  1 12:59:33 2000
From: messentw at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?William=20Messent?=)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:59:33 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Some Words
Message-ID: <20000301125933.28456.qmail@web301.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello Everyone,

Well I'm back from Germany, I've had a good night's
kip and am ready to take whatever the world throws at
me. I had a lovely time, thanks for asking. We played
on the Reeperbahn, just like the Beatles. Only with
less people there to watch us. Peter Miller may want
to have a wander down that street if he wants some
ideas for his proposed shop. I saw some bad things
mother.

I've skimmed through the posts that I've missed and am
interested in the idea of the Sinister village on an
island with Miss Cilla Black. Let's hope it doesn't
all turn out like Shipwrecked, with half of us being
mardy and sailing off to civilisation. I reckon I'd be
good on Sinister island, people say I have a strong
mental and physical presence. Or I could just clean up
the dog shit if noone else has volunteered.

I've just found out that my work are flying me up to
Manchester next week and putting me up in a big hotel.
Wicked. I love hotels. And I hope they *do* spend
loads of money on drinks for me, despite what Mr
Geddes wrote in his last diary. Fuck 'em, they can
afford it. Doubt they will though, I'll be back on the
White Lightening.

Well, I'm off now kids. Keep the home flag flying and
yer arse muscles in check.

Love William x


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From angel_blackwell at xxx.com  Wed Mar  1 13:41:03 2000
From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (kinky angel)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 08:41:03 EST
Subject: Sinister: broken angel...
Message-ID: <20000301134103.91389.qmail@hotmail.com>

Well, good morning all...i actually got to work all bright and early...
Ugh, as some of you on #sinister knew on Monday I was a little under the 
weather. Well I broke my pact on going to doctors and saw one. I now have an 
appointment for an MRI (or something)...to get me little head scanned. He 
also wanted to take blood tests...was joking about how sensitive the tests 
can be, that if i've even been in the same room as a pot smoker it will show 
up...he's gonna be pleased as my tests will surely come out completely green 
so to speak. (one would think that maybe this is the source of my 
problems...)
Had bizzare dream with b&s as the soundtrack...i think the dream was 
regarding the many facets of my personality and there was bwtas playing in 
the background.
oh yeah...everyone should hire highschool co-op students. They provide free 
labour and a cute distraction from the mundane.
the angel blackwell...
PS jean-louis misses joseph...he gives a big hug.
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From vibrosheep at xxx.net  Wed Mar  1 13:37:27 2000
From: vibrosheep at xxx.net (vibrosheep at xxx.net)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 13:37:27
Subject: Sinister: Minutes of the meeting of Up-Sinister Parish Council 29/2/2000.
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Meeting 29/2/00. Present : Councillor Evans.

1) Councillor Evans agreed that the ancient by-law banning the consumption of alcohol and Jaffa Cakes on the villiage green during the lunchtime showing of Neighbours was in fact a good idea and has been reinstated following the decision by Councillor Evans at the meeting of Up-Sinister Parish Council on 31/1/00 that this was in fact "Complete Cack".

2) Councillor Evans approved the plans of Chief Engineer & Transport Officer, Adrian Evans that the Sinister Bypass Expressway should be built "right through the middle of" Up-Sinister.  This required the demolition of Miller Cottage and the Dastoor Gazette buildings, and also the concreting over of the village green thus removing the need for the implementation of the Non-alcohol/Jaffa Cake prohibition type thing as laid out in item number 1.  Councillor Evans (New Edition Party) defended an attack from Councillor Evans (New Order Party)that these plans were insane and would completely destroy local tourism by agreeing plans for a new train station to be situated on the plot of land presently occupied by the "Fox in the Snow" Public House and the Up-Sinister Post Office.

3) After viewing his Triumph Acclaim being clamped in the up-Sinister Parish Council car park, Councillor Evans decided cars were in fact "gay" and that the money set aside for the Expressway should be used to fund a second, bigger train station to be located at the present home of Up-Sinister AFC (The Ups), The Relegation Ground and to cover the cost of lunch at the recently closed (pending demolition) "Fox in the Snow".

4) After careful deliberation, all parties agreed that Steps were in fact, better than Belle and Sebastian and would do them in a fight no-probs following the departure of hard-man Stuart David to concentrate on concentrating.

5) At 12:15pm the meeting was adjourned for lunch to be reconvened at 4pm.

6) No Other Business.


1/3/2000.
Up-Sinister Parish Council.

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From Pelican303 at xxx.com  Wed Mar  1 17:25:49 2000
From: Pelican303 at xxx.com (Pelican303 at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:25:49 EST
Subject: Sinister: The dreaded bean and men in skirts.
Message-ID: <6d.1aa6cfd.25eeac9d@aol.com>

Now look here...just because I look like hell in a skirt (snake hips...what 
can I say?) doesn't mean I don't have ever right to make an ass of myself by 
wearing one.  (I like the way it breaths...kinda tickles...hmmm....anyway).
Our dearest bookworm, Laura, happened to mention (innocently, though, I 
should say) the idea of a coffee shop in the village.  Now this raises many 
issues...I mean you go too corporate or too indy and it ends up the domain of 
the fascist elite either way.  Not to mention the fact that those coffee oils 
are just no good at all for tea leaves.  However, I suppose there must be 
some place to get that 
"Lord-get-rid-of-this-hangover-and-i'll-never-ever-drink-again-until-next-week
end" cup o joe.  Oh my, what a horrible dilema!  I will of course always have 
a big hotpot of PG Tips that has been brewing in itself all day, and that'll 
turn your head twice as quick as coffee, no? Well...just throwing this out 
there because, where I am from, coffee houses just happen to be the very 
center of social interaction.  Oh dear....any ideas you guys?
    As for currency, I think expecting people to save delicious edible treats 
when they have a difficult enough time saving nonedible paper...well isn't 
that asking a bit much.  Why my stomach acids would quickly liquidate all my 
assests, if you see what I mean.  Now someone (I fail to recall who and I'm 
too lazy to check the old e-mails...pleeeeeese forgive me :)  ) had said they 
wanted a store that sells shiny things.  Well how would you feel about just 
using shiny things for currency.  I mean everyone likes shiny things...and 
they're much more fun to play with than money.  And then you could run the 
bank and sit all day in piles of shiny things and swim through them like 
Scrooge McDuck at the begining of DuckTales.  Eh?  
    If not shiny things, well I have a growing pile of monkey feces (someone 
pleeease take one of these buggers off my hands) so I"d be quite happy if we 
adopted monkey poo as the currency.  Why I'd be the local millionaire.
    I agree....cars are gay.
And with that, he hopped on his mod scooter and zoomed off.
Love and monkey dung,
Rob
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From jasonandreas at xxx.net  Wed Mar  1 17:35:28 2000
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:35:28 -0000
Subject: Sinister: A Glasgow Meetup
Message-ID: <017801bf83a4$89e93320$0bccb0c2@default>

Hi everyone.

I want to organise a list picnic in George Square on May 6th.

This means everyone will be able to find it, and all the underage listees
can finally come along too.

If it's not a sunny day, then we'll all meet up and decide to go somewhere
else, okies?

So come on, lets have the biggest meetup ever!

We can take over George Square and sing B&S songs at an unsuspecting public
<giggle>


--Jason Andreas

A one-man civil war.....

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From lleweth at xxx.com  Wed Mar  1 17:57:40 2000
From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 09:57:40 PST
Subject: Sinister: Fly like a weasel
Message-ID: <20000301175740.15584.qmail@hotmail.com>

Oh how I must post! My mind is a raging torrent flooded with rivulets of 
thought cascading in a waterfall of creative alternatives. Yes, my mind is 
just aglow with whirling transient nodes of thought careening through a 
cosmic vapor of intervention... That or I'm channeling Mel Brooks again. 
Either way the prospect is scary.

So, I had just gotten my sack cloth and ashes ready, and I was preparing 
myself for some good ol' fashion repenting. I have been the worst pen pal 
EVER. Well, I don't know if pen pal is the right word to use. That always 
makes me think of middle age people living in Brussels who write just to 
keep up their English and in case they ever visit the states and need a 
place to stay. Anyway, I haven't written a couple of people in ages and I 
was preparing to plea forgiveness from them. This is when I noticed an 
e-mail from a one Lucy Alder which said that she *gasp* was NOT familiar 
with "How the Grinch Stole Christmas".  After a period of convulsions and 
mourning for poor Juicy Lucy and the depravity which must define her life, I 
decided that I would see to it that she would no longer be destined to roam 
life's corridors without the joy and harmony which this Dr. Seuss classic 
provides. Then, I realized that I actually had never seen this in book form 
-- only in the movie special which comes every year when we roll the old 
Yuletide log out (and hope that it doesn't slip from the fire and burn the 
house down while we writhe on the floor because of the violent stomach 
cramps brought on by Christmas's traditional mix of good food & seasonal 
happiness). Does anyone have a copy of "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" left 
over from their childhood? Has anyone ever seen a copy of this book? Am I 
just giving people ideas for Ebay? Anyway, I checked my handy Books In Print 
which I have on cd now (which sure beats those huge books I used to have to 
lug out every time someone wanted to order a book at the store) and found a 
copy of it so at least it's still in print. *whew*  Once Geisel's books stop 
being in print I know that it's time for me to retreat from society.

Speaking of retreats, this Sinister Village seems to be coming along quite 
nicely. Massive Massive props to Simon for offering to take Sim-Sinister 
Cyber. However, I was disappointed when no one inquired about wanting a job 
with me in the bookshop. I've decided to take the initiative and seek people 
out personally to come work with me. Well, I say 'work' very loosely since 
my motto has always been that 'work is fine for killing time but it's a 
shaky way to earn a living.' Plus, hard work never killed anyone who didn't 
do it.  So, I'm soliciting people to come and hang out with me in the 
bookshop under the term of employee. It should be grand fun! (Honey, you're 
always welcome to just come in and sit in one of the soft comfy chairs. I'll 
teach you how to crochet and you can be the shop's resident Crocheting 
Cute.)  Since my personal e-mail endeavors have failed lately, I'll just ask 
via this post. It's just a tentative list and if anyone else wants to join 
in on the fun -- do let me know. So far, I would love if the following would 
come & be residents of the book shop: Jim 'I'm so hip I have trouble seeing 
over my pelvis' Gilmer,  Llwelyn 'A rose by any other name still doesn't 
have 2 L's', and Colonel 'I hate my name being mentioned at all & prefer to 
be unknown. Damn you, Laura Llew' JEB Stuart. The fact that all of these 
dark haired, pixies and b&s loving males are witty, intelligent,  and love 
books is 'purely' coincidental. *innocently hums*

I've also decided that I want the bookshop right beside the tea shop. I 
asked Rob about it and he came up with the lovely idea of having a little 
connecting hallway with big glass windows and ceilings that peak out onto 
the cobblestone streets on one side and a cute little courtyard on the 
other. There'd be tables where people could drink tea and read the 
newspapers/books. (That is almost a direct quote from Rob. AKA Pelican303).

Though I do hope that those monkeys just stay out in the fields and aren't 
allowed in the shop. Unless, one of them is Gleek the Space Monkey of Wonder 
Twins fame. They were part of the "Superfriends" gang. Anyway, their (wonder 
twins) powers were activated by touching their fists together. There was one 
episode (the only one that I actually remember) where they were tied up 
several feet apart and couldn't quite get their fists to touch, so Gleek got 
right up between them and put his nose between their fists, and it fit the 
gap just perfectly. The Wonder Twins were always transforming into something 
that was only indirectly related to what they were trying to do. Like 
instead of just turning into two 50-foot dinosaurs and stomping on the bad 
guys, they would turn into a flying weasel and a bucket of ice. Anyway, Rob, 
if one of those monkeys is Gleek then hook me up!

Oh well, here I've written this pointless post and now have no energy to 
e-mail those I really should. I'm sorry.  Lucy, if it's any comfort you can 
always stay at my house if you ever come to the US.

Laura

'meeting all of your Laura Llew needs since 1977'

PS - What the hokey are Jaffa Cakes? I saw someone else ask this but I never 
saw an answer to the inquiry. I've heard of them before but I've also heard 
of people snorting a chain up their nose and then pulling it out their 
mouth. It doesn't mean that I've ever tried it.

PPS- Thanks Velocity Girl for inquiring about me. I'm fine even if I am 
sniffling because of your pending marriage. I thought we were going to be 
single forever together and open up that art bookshop? Now, I hear (through 
sinister no less, not even directly from you) that you're ditching me and 
being single for a b-o-y. Oh I see how it is. You're such a tease.


*********Laura Llew's Favorite Listee of the Week*****************
This goes out to that lovely listee who I think has the best E-mail address 
ever! Yes, I didn't realize it at first since their name (which seems to 
change like the weather) is what appears in my in-box. But once I saw the 
actual e-mail address I was in love with the name. So mad shouts out to the 
trollopinpaisley at fcmail.com who is also known as..................... LJ  �
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From splash at xxx.uk  Wed Mar  1 19:06:12 2000
From: splash at xxx.uk (Splash)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:06:12 -0000
Subject: Sinister: would anyone like a biscuit?
Message-ID: <004601bf83b1$a66bdcc0$085c883e@monkeymachine>

Hi - you don't know me, but i have secretly been a member of this list for
some time now. I've been watching you all from the shadows, trying to build
up the courage to talk to someone. I'm very shy, you see, but I've been
drinking wine and I think i can speak now.

All I want in life is for someone to help me find some information on a band
called Fonda 500. I have some biscuits I would like to share with them, and
anyone who can help me! All I know is that they're from Hull and they
sometimes gig with Salako (As my band are doing at York Fibbers on the 8th
of April - come on down and sit on the big sofa with me and Grace). Any help
would be much appreciated...

I know I've been very naughty in not really having any B&S content, but
while I'm here I'd like to volunteer my services as the village postman
(unless it's taken). I have absolutely no experience in the field, but I
don't mind getting up early and I can whistle badly, so I suppose I could
always be the milkman...

Anyway, take care,

Laters

The Incredible Splash Monkey

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From caroline945 at xxx.com  Wed Mar  1 19:09:34 2000
From: caroline945 at xxx.com (caroline smith)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 19:09:34 GMT
Subject: Sinister: *trevor holloway shows you how to make a simple camp refrigerator...*
Message-ID: <20000301190934.66391.qmail@hotmail.com>

hello chickadees,
just a quick hello and how are you to all you lovely people. also just so 
you all know i have found exactly how to make fridges, a la brownies. lixi, 
(sorry if that is a little too informal) asked if a meant fudges, but oh 
no......
in the 1959 girl guides annual i have (i'm not actually joking) trevor 
holloway answers all your prayers by recognising every guide's fear of 
keeping perishable goods in warm weather, and tells you how to make a 
fridge, i will be happy to send anyone the information if they so desire. i 
never actually went to guides as i played ping pong on a tuesday night, 
which meant i couldn't go, a bit gutted about the whole situation now,  
anyway i'll leave you with just a small extract from sally spick and susan 
span...

susan span keeps undies gay
and fresh by dipping every day
sally spick keeps handbags neat
puffs for powder clean and sweet
if you try you can
be sally spick or susan span
with lots of love and affection
caroline
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From Pelican303 at xxx.com  Wed Mar  1 20:09:34 2000
From: Pelican303 at xxx.com (Pelican303 at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:09:34 EST
Subject: Sinister: Letter from Memphis
Message-ID: <c4.1a44f32.25eed2fe@aol.com>

Howdy alls

Laura's incomplete list was followed by:
>The fact that all of these 
>dark haired, pixies and b&s loving males are witty, intelligent,  and love 
>books is 'purely' coincidental.

I really fail to see how I could possibly have been left off this list.  
Looking in the mirror, my hair is dark.  Glancing at my CDs I see all 5 
pixies albums, two singles, the bbc thingy, and all the B&S stuff.  I suppose 
I'm intellegent (I get mocked for having Nietzsche under my bed...not a 
book...the actual german philosopher), a book lover (see earlier) 
and...well...you can decide on the third.  Not to mention the fact that I'm 
damn sexy.
Monkey update: I had to kill one.  (anyone on that incomplete list my now 
insert a "Monkey Gone To Heaven" joke here).
Well now that I've vented that...I"m gonna go sit in the sun.
Trying to get to you, how I've tried to get to you,
Rob
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From feather-boa at xxx.com  Wed Mar  1 20:26:09 2000
From: feather-boa at xxx.com (feather boa)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:26:09 -0800
Subject: Sinister: springtime
Message-ID: <GOGNDNGHAFDOAAAA@shared3.whowhere.com>

spring is sprung

the grass is riz

i wonder where them birdies is?

some say the birds is on the wing,

ain't that absurd?

i always tought the wing was on the boid.

 

except that it's all raining and not really very nice.  but it felt all fresh when i walked into school today (the bus goes through the estate and the kids are all scarey, so i walk), like it was early on a summer morning, around 5am, and you could tell that later the day would be so hot.  and i had to restrain myself from bunking and going and sitting in a park.



pip pip,

FB

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From vincewong at xxx.com  Wed Mar  1 21:45:31 2000
From: vincewong at xxx.com (vincent wong)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:45:31 -0500
Subject: Sinister: My little piece of happiness/misery
In-Reply-To: <c4.1a44f32.25eed2fe@aol.com>
Message-ID: <B4E2F7A7.B92%vincewong@mac.com>

Hi listes

i just came out of the nursery, wow I feel so mature now.  Anyways I used to
be on this list just over a year ago, and I was getting too much email
overall, so I just unsubscribed, but now I figured out my filtering, so it
doesn't seem so bad now.

So a little intro on myself, I'm 23, live in Toronto, and I work as a photo
assistant, and sometimes I'm also a graphic designer, its pretty cool to see
your work out on the streets, during last summer I was working on a sign for
a store that sold fine foods like cheese and stuff, now its up on the store
front.  My first public piece (I think).

I've been listing to belle and sebastian for just over a year now, for some
reason our local new rock station played "Sleep the Clock Around" and I
thought that was the best song I've heard in a long time, they didn't
mention the name unless they did and I wasn't listing at the time, but a
week later I was checking out some record stores, and they were playing the
same song, and I was gonna ask, but they had one of those "now playing"
signs and there it was "The Boy with The Arab Strap".  Of course I picked up
the album right away, and when I got home, I listen to the rest of the
album, and declared it to be the best album in several years.  Though that
wasn't the real first time I heard them, about a year before that, my
girlfriend at the time played "If Your Feeling Sinister" for me I didn't
like it then, I thought it was really wimpy.  She laughed at me when I
wanted to borrow that album off her before I bought it.
Lisa was her name I just rang her up last nite to see how she was doing, we
hadn't spoken in several months, now I realize how stupid I was to mess
things up with her, she was truley the coolest girlfriend I ever had.
On another note, I just moved out of my parents home (again), and into a
nice apartment with my old housemate from collage.  Of course our new place
is gonna be way different from out last place, it was a true uni ghetto
place, now we're going for a more mature look to our place, no posters
outside the bedrooms, in our living room we're only gonna have photographs
either one of my pieces or some of our snapshots of friends and stuff, its
starting to look real good, but when i make some more money its gonna be
even nicer, now if we can only keep it clean.
I could write more, but if you gotten this far your probablly bored by now,
so I'll quit and say adieu.

vince
vincewong at mac.com  
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From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk  Wed Mar  1 22:01:13 2000
From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (sweetie)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:01:13 -0000
Subject: Sinister: you know what i mean.....
Message-ID: <000c01bf83ce$4a298580$2227883e@anne666theasylum>

sinister

a b&s meet up in glasgow
im there  :)

all this talk of a village
:)
how exciting! (*reflects on sad little no life*)
can i have a place?? ooh! can i, can i?
i would like to have an ickle shoppy
that sells things
from books to body jewellery, called electronic  :)
that would be fun  :)

i went to see the divine comedy in the liquid room in edinburgh
it was nice.  :)

ok
my web page is almost done
but please feel free to send me more poetry!!!
or short stories for that matter.  :)

say live and let die
sweetie
xox

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From rachel at xxx.uk  Thu Mar  2 00:52:00 2000
From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 00:52:00 -0000
Subject: Sinister: there is something of interest to this...it's at the end
Message-ID: <003e01bf83e1$9d9f3440$f34d883e@preinstalledco>

today i got up. at half past six in the morning.

i got on the bus i needed to get on with my friend.

when we were halfway to the train station, from which we were going to board
a train from oxford to birmingham to york, she turned around and said:

'you did remember your railcard, didn't you rachel?'

to which the reply was of course:

'no.'

we got of the bus, speedwalked the mile back to my house where i legged it
upstairs and proceeded to empty Every Single Drawer in my very small room to
hunt for the railcard.

<i hope you have all noticed the EXTREMELY restrained manner in which i am
telling this tale. it was not like this at the time. in fact it was more
like (to quote the scream) 'fuck fuck fuck fuck' etc>

the offending railcard was eventually uncovered (my bedroom floor is
certainly no longer uncovered. i had difficulty closing the door behind me.
why do you think i'm avoiding trying to go in there by writing this?) and we
then belted it to the bus stop and lurched on to the bus for the second
time. it was 14 to 8. we had 17 minutes to reach the station.

17 minutes can be do-able. when it's not rush hour. it used to be do-able
*in* rush hour before the introduction of the supposedly
public-transport-friendly newish
no-vehicles-and-yes-that-includes-buses-in-the two-main-roads-in-oxford
traffic system. but today, despite our best passenger rage, athletic
abilities, and constant swearing whenever the bus slowed/stopped/took
massive detours - it was like being keanu reeves, it really was - 17 minutes
just wasn't possible.

but don't despair! there is a happy ending to this tale.

while hanging around oxford station waiting for the next train to birmingham
i picked up select cos not only had someone said there was a 4-star review
of the box set in it(which makes reference to obsessive internet b&s fans
who *may* just be us ;)) but also cos the aforementioned scream, who were
already soundtracking my day, were on the front cover. so i was easily
parted from my £2.50.

it wasn't till i was finally on a train that i found within these pages...

<and this is the bit you've all been waiting for...possibly>

...a rather lovely poster of the wonder that is stuart murdoch himself!
                     :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)
:)  :)  :)
he is standing by the side of a rather dodgy looking car, looking sort of
shyly benevolent (i'm not sure if that's the word i mean, but it rolls of
the tongue nicely), and very very cute indeed. ahhhh. bless that angelic
little face.

so if you want struan to adorn pride of place on your bedroom wall, go buy
select! in fact, 7-eleven is still open....

lovin' and leavin' you all to FINALLY get some sleep. well, once i have
cleared a route to my bed...

rachel xxxx


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From ksgljl78 at xxx.net  Thu Mar  2 04:18:26 2000
From: ksgljl78 at xxx.net (jason luther)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 23:18:26 -0500
Subject: Sinister: meaningless b&s content (if you can call it that)
Message-ID: <006101bf83fe$5c4ac8c0$9c891b26@oemcomputer>

right, so as i stated in my last post, i acquired a turn table from my
father, so a lot of my time these past few days have been spent listening
to.... well, records. tonight was strange i guess. after trying to get my
friends to go to the pub with me, since they are leaving friday for 10 days,
and to no avail, i was sitting around all bored and lonely and stuff. i
bought some 7''ers earlier in the day, and decided to listen to them again.
when i was finished i put on bwtas. but forgot to switch it back over to 33
rpms. i was so excited for a second, i thought i discovered a hidden song
(mind you, i was only fooled for a brief moment, im not *that* out of it).
stewarts voice, sped up, sounds similar to isobels. its weird, try it on 'it
could have been a brilliant career'.
    okay, now the second tid bit of b&s.... while listening to bwtas i was
reading jack kerouacs 'darma bums', and in the part when hes i walking off
of the mountain, following his companions, he says its like 'little arab
boys following their fathers'. so the word arab stuck out, and i though *hmm
im listening the boy with the arab strap* and then it hit me, i was also
listening to the song by the same title!! i just thought this was way weird.
    sorry if i led you on by saying ther was b&s content, and you thinking
it was important. oh.. velocity girl, ill be delighted to fix anything of
yours that breaks ;)
    okay, id say about 1.38 minutes lost to me again

    jason the noticer of totaly obscure things

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From Solanita74 at xxx.com  Thu Mar  2 04:39:05 2000
From: Solanita74 at xxx.com (Solanita74 at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 23:39:05 EST
Subject: Sinister: love and affection
Message-ID: <45.15142ff.25ef4a69@aol.com>

Caroline (lovely name, by the way) wrote:

<<  with lots of love and affection
 caroline
 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>

Which has inspired me to write my first post to Sinister!

**warning: all those with an aversion to parochial school and/or early 90s 
big-hair pop metal bands may want to exit immediately...this could get ugly.

As I was saying...back during my innocent youth I spent one rather disturbing 
semester at an all-girls catholic school. A place where you were not allowed 
to wear earrings larger than a quarter, or else you would have a few nuns on 
your back. During this semester, a local radio station sponsored a contest in 
which high school students were encouraged to fill out index cards with some 
slogan of the radio station (can't recall what exactly, something to the 
effect of "Live 98.5 - it's great!"). The school that had the most cards 
filled out, per student, and turned into the station by a certain day won the 
ultimate in prizes: the band Nelson would come and play a concert at their 
school! Please don't tell me that I am the only one who has been scarred by 
the memory of those two blonde-headed young sons of...um..Ricky Nelson? 
Tortured by their smash hit "Love and Affection"??

Well, I couldn't really support the efforts of the many young girls who were 
swooning at the thought of meeting Nelson, as the environmental effects of 
all those wasted index cards was too much for me to bear. But even without my 
support, my school actually won this contest! Sadly, the concert didn't take 
place until the following semester and I had already escaped to a galaxy far 
far away by then.

Regarding the village: I would like to manage a brothel/stock brokerage. With 
the inspiration of someone's recent suggestion of selling the Sinister list 
to the highest bidder, I would like to take this one step further and sell 
stock in Sinister. With the tremendous economy and high value of Sinister, I 
will assure that no one will ever have to do any real work! And of course, 
the brothel will be an equal opportunity employer (now accepting 
applications).

And that...is certainly enough for one night...take care all.

Carolyn
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From idleberry at xxx.com  Thu Mar  2 11:29:41 2000
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:29:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Photo Berry
Message-ID: <20000302112941.29678.qmail@web602.mail.yahoo.com>

Here we are again. Thursday.
And another mail from yours truly! Yay! Jump up and
down and squeal with delight!!

So, I'm hoping (fingers crossed and all that) my mum
is going to remember to record the evening session in
Scotland tonight for me, with the b+s thing thats
apparently gonna be on it. Lets just hope she doesn't
a. record the wrong station (Forth FM!!! HEAVEN
FORBID!)
B. remembers to turn the cassette over rather than get
wrapped up in Eastenders/Animal Hospital/anything
vaguely mumsie on telly.
c. leave it to my little brother to do, cos no doubt
it will go all a bit pete tong then, for sure. not
that I have a lack of faith in my brother, but, um,
ewll, actually I do.

Has anyone read that review of LazyLinePainter Jane
EPs in NME this week? I think Sarah Dempster was
amazingly witty and original to use the word twee in
connection with B+S related things. How brilliant of
her to come up with such a line!! How classic an
observation! I must write that word down in my little
notebook!! 
Six out of Ten?
Described some of it as nursey rhymes?
Yup, the lady doesn't obviously love B+S, people. 
Which is a shame, because I thought that most of the
songs did merit a far higher rating than she was
prepared to give. Okay, I don't think ALL B+S songs
are wonderous, some are a bit weak for me, but she
failed to observe "Slow Graffiti" and "This is Just a
Modern Rock Song" or even "Lazy Line Painter Jane" and
"Photo Jenny". And while she was busy slagging off the
lyrical content of the B+S songs, she also failed to
comment that it is not merely about lyrics. Its the
combination of the music and the vocals that give B+S
such an incredibly bewitching imagery to the listener.

I think you either love B+S or you just don't. 
And Sadly, she seems to have a thing against them. Oh
well. But that doesn't matter, cos the majority of
things she writes are crap anyway. 
Paying attention to her is like paying attention to
Margaret Thatcher now. You just shouldn't bother.

And the banks!!! where do they get off thinking that
they can increase charges for using rival cash points?
No wonder Barclays had a profit increase! It could go
up to �4 for each transaction made from a rival
cashpoint! When in reality, it costs no more than
�0.30! Grr! So I think I might change banks, as a
political statement against this. Or rob the banks
instead.

On a more personal note, my flatmate is a twat. 
And my land line phone broke the other night. 
And I seem to be coming into contact with too many
patronising arsewanking dickhead men.  And theres
nothing I can do about it!! Apart from kick them in
the delicate bits.
And while this would reinstate my position as a girl
who doesn't like to have the piss taken out of her in
inhumane ways/ be patronised/ be pushed around/ be
told "You're wrong and I'm right cos I'm a man and
naturally I'm right because to be wrong would be too
much for me and my precious ego to endure"...etc etc
etc, It would be wrong. Fulfilling yes, for a few
moments. But I have a bolder and bigger picture of
self satisfaction to look at.

So maybe I'll just clean the loo with my flatmates
toothbrush. And not tell. Well, I won't if you won't!
Hes a he, btw.

God, if only something really nasty could happen to
him. 
Or something.

But lets face it, what goes around, comes around. And
sooner or later, he will get his comeupance. And that
will be revenge enough. For the mean time, I'm just
gonna have to grin and bear it!

So, bye for now!
Maybe see you in Jeepster chat rooms, cos Sinister
doesn't work for me! Bah!!!

Love, and nice things,

Idleberry 




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From hewits at xxx.uk  Thu Mar  2 12:16:17 2000
From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:16:17 -0000 
Subject: Sinister: happy sini-birfday to ME
Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69F0573D@park_ex>

Well kinda, actually it was my anniversary of being on the list a couple of
weeks ago, but i didn't realise and then what with it being the brits this
week and having subscribed the day after the brits *last year* (not that I'm
a glory lover or anything), I was thinking it's spiritually a year since
i've been on the list.

And what a year.....I'll not go on aboot it, you all know where the archives
are, and some of you were even there in person (although i imagine you need
the archives to overcome alcohol-related amnesia, i know i do :)).

Anywayhoo, forwards into the sini-footoor.  The village is coming along fine
i see, although to my mind it should be somewhere slightly warmer than
scotland, somewhere meditteranean and nice and close to the sea, mmmmm, nice
warm weather.

Went for a job interview in Oxford the other day, but didn't get it :(
although mrs carsmilesteve and myself *are* looking to move to oxford once
we've got ourselves jobs, anyone got any spare jobs in the area? go on gizza
job, i could do that.

I'M A BIG DOG WITH A HORN (don't ask)

Jaffa cake: n. (j-affa c-ay-k) biscuit (possibly cake (don't want to get
involved in *that* argument)) consisting of round sponge-like base with
small circle of orangy jelly stuff in the middle and then the top half
covered in chocolate:

http://www.jaffacakes.co.uk/

actually, looking at the above site there isn't a *single picture* of a
jaffa cake on it, so it's probably not a lot of use after all, oh well....

Any of you a little scared or intimidated by the wacky world of #sinister
have no need to worry any longer as your aunt sadie (well linda's aunt
sadie) will look after you.  All you have to do is ask her who people are
and you'll learn a whole world of information (and she knows what teabagging
is). 

I might be in glasgow/paisley next weekend cos I'm going to a UNISON
conference, which is nice, but i haven't had any info back on it yet, so i
can't organise anything yet which is a right PAIN IN THE BUM.

**keith watson moment**
I was down the pub in Cheltenham last week and was talking to a girl i know.
The subject turned to b&s and i mentioned the list.  her mouth opened and
closed without any noise coming out, and she said "do you know keith
watson?"  i said "well, y'know kinda, I've looked at his blurry pictures and
stuff" and she said......
duf duf duf dufdufdufdufdufduf*
<to be continued> 
**end keith watson moment**

actually when i was in the pub another (very pissed) mate of mine was trying
to convince me that belle & sebastian (yes, the whole band) had played in a
nightclub in manchester three weeks ago.  I told him he was talking
bollocks, he said no, it's true, even the people on the internet didn't
know, i said no, you're talking bollocks, he just staggered off

xoxo

CarsmileSteve

NP (in my head anyway, seeing as how i'm at work) that annoying muse song, i
don't even know the flipping words, i've just got the melody to the chorus
and the plinky plonky keyboard bit going round and round in my heed

*y'know the bit at the end of eastenders, she didn't like do a big drum fill
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From koogydelbbog at xxx.com  Thu Mar  2 13:11:59 2000
From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 05:11:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: hymn to a village
Message-ID: <20000302131159.14791.qmail@web2003.mail.yahoo.com>

busy at work and got behind reading the digests. have
just caught up after reading about 10 a day for the
last 3 days so...

village idea was nice at first but have none of you
people been watching shipwrecked? there they took 16
people and stranded them on a desert island for 10
weeks and only 7 of them made it through to the end.
it was lord of the flies all over again.

actually, bowlie last year was nice, the way there
were always 20 or so of us in the bar at any given
time and, in fact, the way the whole holiday camp was
full of popkids who we spent ages studiously ignoring.
but, as people have pointed out, a village full of
record shops and brothels isn't going to work.

btw, wouldn't it be a better idea to have two netball
teams? that way they have someone to play against 8)

oh, the only big b&s related news of the last month
was stu d leaving to spend more time with his family.
yeah mr david, i can see why you'd need to quit the
band, those long, gruelling tours and hectic
promotional duties for the seeming constant release
schedule are bound to eat into your time...

(yes, i'm another one still bristling at being
insulted by stu d in the chatroom. i was just about to
offer to tape him the colombo theme tune (he could
only get hold of an american video of the show, my
video plays ntsc tapes and if all he wanted was the
audio then i could save him having to get the tape
expensively converted to PAL) when he called me a rich
bastard and told me to fuck off. i should've kicked
him. humpf - he's the one with a mezzanine in his
flat!) still, i'll miss his cumudgenly input into b&s.
and i enjoyed the book too, apart from the end)

does the village have an idiot yet?

andy

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From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk  Thu Mar  2 13:14:40 2000
From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?stevie_trouss=E9?=)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:14:40 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Lest we baguette
Message-ID: <01bf8449$44603ce0$0300a8c0@g5-200-3>

Strange days, friends, strange days.

It all started, as things often do, with the Vengaboys. Their new single, as
I'm sure you don't need me to tell you, is entitled 'Sha-la-la': a poignant
tribute to the beleagured indieschmindie discussion list. Then, not to be
outdone, my old friend Ghostface Killah released an lp called 'Supreme
Clientele' - an account of his meet-up with our favourite bunged-up fifties
schoolboys on their recent jaunt to America. Finally, and best of all, while
searching for rough trade in my local rough trade shop, I find that those
nice Broadcast folk have composed a song for their new ep called
'Papercuts', a whimsical ode to a renowned organ of this parish, shortly to
publish its epochal fourth issue.

Well, I never.

If this wasn't enough, I feel I should admit that after seeing the new Steps
video on Ant and Dec on Saturday, H and his pals have become my very
favourite pop thing of the twenty-first century.

Re: the Sinister commune. In the words of Tim Booth I say: 'Hmmm' to a
village.

Stevie's Cinema Round-up: American Beauty (5/10), The Talented Mr Ripley
(7/10). TTMR scores extra points for a) the character of "Freddie" and b)
Miles-out-of-This-Life playing an arsedamaja.

While I'm here, I thought I would pass on this little statistic by Kevin
Shay, which can be found on America's best website www.mcsweeneys.net

++++++++++++++++++++++++

P E R C E N T A G E S O F   I N T E R N E T   U S E R S  G E N U I N E L Y
E N G A G E D   I N T H E   A C T I O N   I N   C O L U M N   " A " W H I L
E   T Y P I N G
T H E   A B B R E V I A T I O N  I N   C O L U M N   " B " .

laughing out loud   LOL  2%
grinning  <g>  8%
being humble about an opinion  IMHO  .01%
seeking to provide information   FYI  12%
just kidding    JK   21%
being thankful, in advance  TIA  15%
smiling   :-)   4%
winking   ;->   1%
rolling on the floor laughing   ROTFL   .00032%
hoping to talk to you later  TYL     6%
trying to conceive  TTC   77%

++++++++++++++++++++++++

I'd like to say hello to all my friends and family and anyone who knows me.

Stevie Troussé




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From giita at xxx.com  Thu Mar  2 14:44:16 2000
From: giita at xxx.com (Giita .)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 14:44:16 GMT
Subject: Sinister: ATP thingie
Message-ID: <20000302144416.60935.qmail@hotmail.com>

hello kiddies,
I know it's been a good while and now I just come out and abuse you..
I left the little Iceland and am in the big land of Ireland...Yes it really 
is greener down here and the birds really do sing. Little green men in green 
tights jumping all around the place....what more could anyone ask for? :)
*Anyway*..The sad thing is...I have been too late to buy tickets for All 
Tomorrow's and I really want to go.. so please, pretty please,
if anyone has a spare tickie or two, I would be a very happy Giita..

Thank you :)

hugs,
XXX Giita

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From geishalass at xxx.com  Thu Mar  2 14:32:32 2000
From: geishalass at xxx.com (Red Geisha)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 09:32:32 EST
Subject: Sinister: Looper in NYC
Message-ID: <20000302143232.36838.qmail@hotmail.com>

I just heard that Looper will be playing April 17th in NYC. Is this a North 
American tour or just city specific? Last night I found a cut-off mp3 France 
Gall cover by Belle & Sebestian, does anyone know where to find this full 
length?

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From starpiekat at xxx.uk  Thu Mar  2 15:27:07 2000
From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:27:07 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Last Thing On My Mind
Message-ID: <20000302152707.3984.qmail@web1703.mail.yahoo.com>

Dear you lot, 

A long time ago back in the days of yore, Ian sent a poetry parrot heading my
way. I told it to "bugger off yer big poof", but it came back to me and fed me
sweet offerings of Nutella and cheese and Duck & Orange Paté so here's a poem
for you. I don't know what its called, but I read it in my book, THE NECESSITY
OF ART, by Ernst Fischer. It's ever so red. I could out-commie the lot of yers,
you pinko leftie bleeding heart liberals. Maybe.

Here we go. In French AND in English, for extra pretension value. Props in this
case go to Aragon, as he were t'bloke wot wrote it.

FRANCAIS

Je dis avec les mots des choses machinales, 
Plus machinalement que la neige neigant
Mots démonétisés qu'on lit dans le journal, 
Et je parle avec eux le langage des gens

Soudain c'est comme un sou tombant sur le bitume
Qui fat nous retourner au milieu de nos pas
Inconscient écho d'un malheur que nous tumes
Un mot chu par hasard, un mot qui ne va pas


Que je dise d'oiseaux et de métamorphoses
Du mois d'aout qui se fane au fond de mélilots
Que je dise du vent, que je dise de roses
Ma masique se brise et se mue en sanglots.

ENGLISH

I use words to say mechanical things, 
More mechanically than snow as it falls;
Words uncoined that you read in the paper, 
And with them I talk as people talk.

Suddenly its like a penny falling on the asphalt, 
That makes us turn back and retrace our steps
Unconscious echo of a disaster we've hushed up, 
A word that falls by chance, a word that will not do


And if I speak of birds, of slow changes, 
Of August fading amidst the hollyhocks, 
And if I speak of wind, of roses, 
My music breaks and changes into sobs.

Either way you read it, its grand. 

If you want me to send another poem, it will be "Last Thing on My Mind", by
Steps. Ummm who can have the poetry parrot now. *thinks* very hard...well who
else could have the parrot, but my Staying Up Late on IRC husband, Damon Seils.
Over to you! After this, you can pass it on to our oldest son.

Jaffas are GRATE. Come to the UK, you get them free with Burger King Kids Club
Meals. You culturally illiterate bunch of yanks, not having McVities like wot
we limeys do. But you do have the METROSTARS, my favourite soccer team in
America-land so I supose theres summat. Eh?

Sarah
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From peter.ramsdale at xxx.com  Thu Mar  2 15:59:00 2000
From: peter.ramsdale at xxx.com (Pete Ramsdale)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 15:59:00 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Frankie was a moke from the block we used to live on....
Message-ID: <38BE8FC4.AEA6BD8D@wdr.com>

I went and asked Jeeves what all this 'moke' business is about.
Apparently it's old British slang for a donkey. He really did tell me
that *ever* so politely, too. I hereby recommend him to the general
populace of Sinistown:

http://www.ask.co.uk

He's great. Blowed if I know how he does it. Probably just on keywords
or something boring like that.

The deliciously Juicy Lucy said:

> What I'd like to know is who's going to do the dodgy jobs in the village?
> Who's going to collect our rubbish?  Clear out the blocked U-bend?  Go down
> manholes to monitor the sewerage system?  Feed the pigs?  Scoop up the dog
> pooh on the pavements?  There's been far to much luvvie-duvvie crap on the
> list lately - it doesn't feel natural.  Go on, nominate your worst enemy to
> clear up the dogshite, I dare you.
> 

Well, I'm not the sort of person that goes round nominating people to
clear up dogshite, but I am willing to take on one of the more
dangerous jobs to be had in the blossoming village. I'm corrently
reading "Mr. Nice" by Howard Marks, and this drug smuggling lark
sounds well easy. And a right larf to boot. So, I am volunteering my
services as the Sinistown Drug Dealer. Mmmmmmm. Pete Ramsdale, the
purveyor of fine herbs and prescribed chemicals, is back. Will we ever
be set free?* Oh, and by the way, I've nae skag. Everything else,
though - just not heroin. I hate needles. It's why I never started
knitting.

I see they've had to institute a "best P!O!P! act" at the Brits this
year for fear that we might rig the votes again and get Pete
Waterman's fawn Chinos in a twist. I just wish there was a "best
seven-piece that never perform in public"-type award deal. B&S would
be shoe-ins.

Sod trying to be witty. I'm off for a smoke.

lol p xx.
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From peter.ramsdale at xxx.com  Thu Mar  2 16:35:40 2000
From: peter.ramsdale at xxx.com (Pete Ramsdale)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 16:35:40 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Frankie was a moke from the block we used to live on....
References: <38BE8FC4.AEA6BD8D@wdr.com>
Message-ID: <38BE985C.3A136D85@wdr.com>

Oh. And the * in my last post was going to be:

* spot the film, kids.

But I forgot it.

Off to get fucked out of my skull on tryptamine derivatives,

lol p xx.
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From eugeneseberg at xxx.com  Thu Mar  2 16:59:13 2000
From: eugeneseberg at xxx.com (Steven Kado)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 11:59:13 EST
Subject: Sinister: ...grb...
Message-ID: <20000302165913.80167.qmail@hotmail.com>

it is i again, after a month or so of not posting.

no doubt i am totally forgotten and everyone is scratching their heads going 
'when did this kado jerk get out of the nursery?'


so,

are there any other leap babies on th' list or am i the only one.  well, if 
you're out there my cohorts in kindergarten, at least we've got eachother.

i spent my special birthday miserable and crying and such.  what a dumb 
fucking birthday that comes every 4 years and builds itself up to be the 
kind of day that could never actually happen. fucking birthday.
fucking unreasonable expectations of happiness.
its gotten cold in toronto.

someone asked when leap kids have their birthdays in non-leap years.  the 
answer:  we DON'T have birthdays in non-leap years.  we suffer for everyone 
so that the calendars work properly and august doesn't end up in winter.

yes,  and then on to the sinister village.
i'm afraid i'd have to opt out of the village lifestyle, (everyone breathes 
a collective sigh of relief at not having to cohabit with that steve kado 
twat).  i'd have to live in a sinister metropolis, a village just couldn't 
contain me.  also, people in the village would quickly grow sick of having 
this dumb boy shlepping about the city blasting kraftwerk/stereo 
total/nintendo theme music out of his boom box and vandalising storefronts 
with the names of notable advice columnists.

also, there wouldn't be a china town in the sinister village, therefore, no 
odd, over packaged asiatic snack food would be available and also no bad 
badz maru, hello kitty or kerro kerropi gear would be available.   i suppose 
that i could take the initiative and start up my exotic grocery store  but 
frankly being a grocer doesn't really have much appeal to me.  i guess i 
could also be the sisniter village's bike messenger, but that's not much fun 
outside of a big city either really. i mean, there probably wouldn't even be 
cars in the sinister village to make the possibility of getting hit at all 
exciting.  just people smiling and being nice to eachother and driving 
scooters about maybe.

i imagine that lots of tether-ball would go on in the sinister village.

i suppose i will never fit in.

sorry for the glumness of this post but it was unavoidable.  wit is for 
later, when i am not sending email.

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From oooon at xxx.com  Thu Mar  2 17:23:16 2000
From: oooon at xxx.com (oon)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:23:16 +0700
Subject: Sinister: A word that falls by chance, a word that will not do
Message-ID: <002e01bf846b$ffe184c0$57d8b7ca@default>

i hear 'Sinister Village'
i think 'Jurastic Park'
in order to be truly sinister village, we need ACTIONS, THRILLERS, SMUTS,
etc.
how could sinister people simply settle down as an old sleepy villager.
what would sinister people do to/among themselves if there's no dragon
to fight with from time to time.  i  nominate Mr Miller to play the man
who got eaten while in the toilet. only a man of his bulky talent
can handle such emotionally demanding role.  it's a nice thought isn'it?
to have many people you like living nearby.  i always tell friends
that when we can have our own house, we will live next to one another.
although at this rate of prosperity, that'd come true when we end up
living together in the old people home.

talking about old people home, anyone see 'the Sky at Night' on
BBC World?  i like the sky at night so i wanted to know what it's about.
but never once they have any sky, night or day.  all they have is two or
three very old people talking talking talking.  they're so old i didn't
change
channel out of respect.  and anticipation if they might collapse from
talkative exhaustion.  they didn't.  but myself did. (from boredom)
no offence intended!  i'm sure this show is fascinating to a lot of people.
i'm just bored too easily.

isn't Being Boring the best song in the world?  i love karaoke a lot
right now.  because i've learned to sing a LOT of new rubbishy songs.
because karaoke bar normally only have those kinds of songs.  but
they're usually easier to sing than good songs anyway.  i've just
discovered "Anyway that you want me"!  the most exhausting song
is definitely "I will survive".  last time i make it to the end only a few
sentence late.  but my friends insisted they wouldn't let me sing
next time without a handful of speed.  (joking, of course)  i like
those cooey oooey love songs more anyway.  some Thai songs
give me goosebumps because the words are too crap to be true.
one reason why i like foreign language song.  at least i don't have to
understand the lyrics in case it's bad.

actually, i'm writing just to say hello to the lovely people i know
and the lovely people i don't know yet.  and that my niece is
one year old last Sunday.  my niece is soOOoooOOo cute.  as
only your own niece can be.  even if she has consistently given you
minor injuries all through her one year existence.  in fact, what i will
remember most about last year is all about how lovely she was.  and
how sometime she did some spooky things.  once she's sitting on
the floor with all her assorted toys and looked up at me when i walked past.
so i sit down and talked to her a little, telling her that i'm having a cold
and have to keep away from her for a while.  she listened, smiled, and
climbed up to me.  normally the starting of eyes poking, hair pulling,
or some other 'playful' attacks.  but Surprise!  she gave me a hug!
and pat my shoulder!  she was just about 9 months at the time!
does 9 months people understand what people talk?  i don't really
think so.  at least Pair still looked more like a wild beastie being than
normal human being.  once she wanted a book i was reading.  when
i didn't immediately hand it over to her, her face went red.  i thought
she's going to poo or something.  but no, her nanny said her face
went red when she's got angry.  okok i was going to say hello, yes
and tell people who care that i have a new email now.  i'd better
stop before some people start to think i escape from "The Sky
at Night"

my snack of the millenium  "Wasabi Green Nuts" - tell your nose
how much you care, tell it with wasabi.

have a lovely day,
oon xxx

i can't think of any subject.  luckily there's Miss Clarke lovely poem.
i was going to choose the french one, to enhance to a higher level of
cleverness.
but knowing no French, i wouldn't be surprised if Sarah put some naughty
French poem instead.  now i remember what Alix's said about B&S Lost
Bassist.
because that's what i thought when i first saw the headline : )  would you
like
to be my English teacher Lixi?


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From frager103 at xxx.com  Thu Mar  2 17:56:46 2000
From: frager103 at xxx.com (vradelis stelios)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:56:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: You Make me Smile
Message-ID: <20000302175646.14197.qmail@web3403.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I'm new to the list.
I'm writing from Seattle ... any B&S fans in Seattle
or around here?
I still haven't met one.

By the way you should all listen to the Arrogants CD.
Beautiful and special.

              Smile,

              Head In Clouds
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From sean_hopson at xxx.com  Thu Mar  2 18:19:17 2000
From: sean_hopson at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?sean=20hopson?=)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:19:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #76
Message-ID: <20000302181917.29696.qmail@web602.mail.yahoo.com>

ah, yet another tale of innocent school-days :
 
> As I was saying...back during my innocent youth I
> spent one rather disturbing 
> semester at an all-girls catholic school. A place
> where you were not allowed 
> to wear earrings larger than a quarter, or else you
> would have a few nuns on 
> your back.

which was surely inspiration for :
 
> Regarding the village: I would like to manage a
> brothel/stock brokerage.

A Catholic Education has a lot to answer for, if you
ask me. But more so if you're Alex Chilton.


Apropos of the above tangential thinking, and based on
my performance at previous sini nights out - i think
my role in any community is clear - i am the Brown
Bottle! Unless i've missed it, the spot of village
wino has yet to be taken. I hereby promise that i
shall :
i. shamble around bumping into stuff
ii. mumble incoherently
iii. assure all i meet (albeit in slightly slurred
tones) that they hold the highest of rankings within
my personal relationships. then barf on their shoes.
so, no change there then.


on another note, a friend of mine who wants to go to
camber sands for ATP has been let down and needs help.
how he expects sympathy when i open mails as above i
don't know. however - if anyone knows of a spare place
going in any chalets could they let me know asap. i
promise he's NOT AT ALL like anyone else mentioned in
this mail. apart from the nuns maybe.


this page is proudly sponsored by Buckfast.

(i warned you, it's those bluddy catholics again.)

love Sean

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From colin.mowat at xxx.net  Thu Mar  2 19:22:37 2000
From: colin.mowat at xxx.net (Colin Mowat)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:22:37 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Looper Tour Dates
Message-ID: <003a01bf847c$abd5f440$c8cd2cc3@default>

Thursday 2 March 2000
19:16

for all you listees in that land called the USA............


Chris wrote:

> I just heard that Looper will be playing April 17th in NYC. Is this a
North
> American tour or just city specific? 

Answer:

Looper 
 
Date Venue City ST 
3/7/00 High Dive Champaign IL 
3/8/00 The Union Bar Iowa City IA 
3/9/00 Knickerbockers Lincoln NB 
3/11/00 First Avenue Minneapolis MN 
3/12/00 Shank Hall Milwaukee WI 
3/13/00 Double Door Chicago IL 
3/15/00 Granada Theater Lawrence KS 
3/16/00 Firehouse St. Louis MO 
3/17/00 The Blue Note Columbia MO 
3/19/00 Fox Theatre Boulder CO 
3/23/00 Crystal Ballroom Portland OR 
3/24/00 Showbox Seattle WA 
3/28/00 Maritime Hall San Francisco CA 
3/30/00 El Rey Theater Los Angeles CA 
3/31/00 El Rey Theater Los Angeles CA 
 
from:
http://www.gigmania.com/

sweet little mystery

Colin

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Television Personalities - Part-Time Punks




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From splag at xxx.net  Thu Mar  2 20:37:50 2000
From: splag at xxx.net (Scott Plagenhoef)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 14:37:50 -0600
Subject: Sinister: Is it wicked not to care about Brooklyn Beckham?
Message-ID: <200003022037.UAA14803@missprint.org>

hey there popkids.

So, at work, while searching the Lexis®-Nexis® Universe in order to find all
the latest dirt on Liverpool's attempt to unload Brad Freidel -- the Prem's
most expensive cheerleader -- the mind wandered from struggling American
footie players to charming Scottish bands (as it so often does). In the
process of all of this diddlying and dallying, it was discovered that Our
Bel can not only whip up a winsome tune about birds and rivers, but when she
gets a bee in her bonnet she has no choice but to put pen to paper and spout
off to the tabloids as well.

Here are a pair of letters published in the "Dear Jo" column in The Mirror.

>From Jan. 6, 2000:

WHAT happened to Glasgow?
The BBC and ITV showed the millennium celebrations as far away as Tonga, New
Zealand, India and the USA.
Did Glasgow disappear with the millennium bug?
Isobel Campbell, Glasgow

>From Dec. 20, 1999:

I FIND (sic) it appalling that £48,000 should be spent on a designer toy car
for Posh and Becks' nine-month-old baby Brooklyn.
When one thinks of the poverty of the children of around the same age in
Kosovo and other poor countries sleeping hungry in tents in sub-zero
temperatures, it is shocking.
I would think that the obscene parents of this spoiled child should look
beyond their own ridiculously wealthy little world and help other children
who really need it.
Isobel Campbell, Glasgow


As far as media assasins go, she's no Harry Allen, but it's no "Tree
Lullaby" either.

Lexis-Nexis also reveals that:
* Stuart Murdoch was punched in the face in Decemeber by a man named David
Christie, who has teardrops tattoed on his face.
* Richard Colburn is a State Senator in Maryland trying to raise awareness
of shore erosion aling the banks of the Chesepeake.
* Sarah Martin scored 17 points in a convincing 74-31 win for Dayton
Christian (15-1) over Jefferson in Ohio girls high school basketball.
* Stevie Jackson walked off with $2,500 after winning the Lake Oconee bass
fishing contest last month.

Sadly, searches for "Wee Karn," "List Mummy," and "Mick Cooke" came up
empty.

Finally, if anyone could drop me a personal line with any info about a band
called Fonda 500 that would be great. I was told that they were on Salako's
label, but as I understand it, that is a little outfit called Jeepster. Does
anyone anything about these Fonda 500 kids?

slipping back into obscurity,
scott.

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From Pelican303 at xxx.com  Thu Mar  2 21:19:47 2000
From: Pelican303 at xxx.com (Pelican303 at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 16:19:47 EST
Subject: Sinister: love and affection
Message-ID: <79.1e3a470.25f034f3@aol.com>

My dear list mates

<< parochial school and/or early 90s 
 big-hair pop metal bands >>
 Holy cripes on toast, I thought I was the only one with an odd parochial 
school/hair band connection in my past.  Though mine isn't as exciting as a 
live concert.
See, there was this ex-nun who taught...sweet woman but scary as hell when 
you're in middle school.  Anyway...whenever she got frustrated you would yell 
"Judas Priest" which of course, everyone found hysterical....
Or is that an old saying that the band took its name from?  Somebody oughta 
know the answer to that....hmmmmm...
Rob
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From ksgljl78 at xxx.net  Thu Mar  2 21:37:34 2000
From: ksgljl78 at xxx.net (jason luther)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 16:37:34 -0500
Subject: Sinister: i know, i know
Message-ID: <001101bf848f$8681b360$cb891b26@oemcomputer>

okay, i lay in bead last night unable to sleep because i realized that i had
made two HUGE spelling mistakes. first of all i called stuart murdoch,
stewart. (tisk tisk i know). and secondly i spelled kerouacs book "the
dharma bums', darma. phew i feel better now, perhaps i will be able to sleep
tonight.

jason the king of spellers

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From g.roberts1 at xxx.uk  Thu Mar  2 21:41:30 2000
From: g.roberts1 at xxx.uk (Gav Roberts)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 21:41:30 BST
Subject: Sinister: On the night shift...
Message-ID: <9EBC8D7AFB@uclan.ac.uk>

Here I am, burning the...errm...9:45 oil. Well, it seems later than 
that. It's assignment time here in sunny (?) Preston, and all the 
kids are scared, because one lecturer decided to give out the 
hardest assignment in the world...ever...2. 
There's a strange man in a body warmer walking round turning off 
computers. He looks serious, I think he's going to kick us out. Just 
as well I've stopped for the night. Ho ho, you don't scare me, body 
warmer man.
I just realised I really should have some B&S content, so here it is. 
I just ordered myself a B&S t-shirt. right, that's that then.
Sod it, I'm off to the pub.


Gav
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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com  Fri Mar  3 00:21:27 2000
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:21:27 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Shooting up on The Beach
Message-ID: <200003021921_MC2-9B91-DAF1@compuserve.com>

Hi Cottagers,

Thai Fact:
A Royal Thai Air Force F-16A pilot made a "technical error" yesterday and
strafed six beach bungalows, a holiday motel and a tennis court in the
tourist resort of Baan Phae. Luckily no one was injured.

After his court martial he'll probably be looking for other employment:
could you find anything for him to do, Councillor Evans (New Seekers
Party)?


I'm sulking because I wanted to tell you about that Broadcast song (which
used to be called Writing For Pleasure - hmmmm, same difference!) first,
but I guess its more appropriate for Trousers to have zipped me at the
post. BTW, don't buy that ep, as the rest is pants, wait until the album
comes out.


Great picture of Struan in Bastards magazine: bet he stole the car to
fahren on the Autobahn afterwards.


I want to see it on screen again, so here goes: "Wasabi Green Nuts"


Come on let's go,

Patrick Moore
Chelmsford, UK
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From colin.mowat at xxx.net  Fri Mar  3 00:51:41 2000
From: colin.mowat at xxx.net (Colin Mowat)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:51:41 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Judas Priest - come on..........
Message-ID: <007401bf84aa$a4612580$4cca2cc3@default>

Friday 3 March 2000
00:40

Rob wrote:
"Judas Priest" which of course, everyone found hysterical....
Or is that an old saying that the band took its name from?  Somebody oughta
know the answer to that....hmmmmm...


Well Judas Priest actually took their name from another group that two of
the founding members had previously been in, so if you need more than that
and if not knowing the origins makes you feel sinister you".......go off and
see a Minister"........and ask them.

Relax and Swing

Colin

What I'm listening to right now:
Japan - Oil On Canvas(album) - in this months Q magazine as one of the 12
best albums ever for it's drums - and hey! they got something right. If you
get the chance it's worth 72mins.


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From kmulloy at xxx.com  Fri Mar  3 02:43:43 2000
From: kmulloy at xxx.com (Kate Mulloy)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 02:43:43 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Regarding your recent offer of employment...
Message-ID: <20000303024343.944.qmail@hotmail.com>


From: Miss Katie
To: Bear, Bear, Bear, & Nephew, & Son, Sinister Village c/o Alexander
    Borgia
Subject: Re: Application for Employment

Dear Bear et al,

It is with great enthusiasm that I accept your offer of employment as the 
acting president of Nuts and Berries Brand (tm).  I look forward to working 
with such a highly motivated team in an environment where my talents can be 
put to their greatest use. Seeing as this position will be both highly 
challenging and rewarding, I also accept your offer of a place on the Board 
of Directors.  I assure you that you are not mistaken in your assessment of 
my qualifications and abilities as the ensuing months shall prove. I 
especially look forward to planning the upcoming advertising campaign for 
our high-quality packaged nuts and berries, however any suggested slogans 
from Sinister Village residents will be taken into consideration and 
appreciated.  I will immediately begin work in preparation for the upcoming 
royal wedding and may I once again stress that your confidence in my ability 
to handle such an important and demanding project is not misplaced.  Please 
feel free to forward to me any pertinent documents including employment 
contracts, permission slip for rabbit services, etc.

Sincerely,

Miss Katie, Sinister Village



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From Januarythaw at xxx.com  Fri Mar  3 03:31:18 2000
From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:31:18 EST
Subject: Sinister: i thought it was a bird, but it was just a paper bag
Message-ID: <18.155bf17.25f08c06@aol.com>

hello my fellow villagekateers.thats supposed to come out like mousekateers 
is it working? 

i honestly don't care where the sinister village is.  in actuality tho i am a 
cold weather stormy snowy type of girl but greece sounds loverly too. my only 
fear is 1200 of us taking classes to learn greek. can you imagine? we'd be a 
mess most definately. i was supposed to start taking japanese today at the 
uni here but i couldn't make it on time. it's a free course and several of us 
were going to do it but things as they were today it was impossible. 

that "twat" steven kado said:
there probably wouldn't even be 
cars in the sinister village to make the possibility of getting hit at all 
exciting.  just people smiling and being nice to eachother and driving 
scooters about maybe.

no i would most definately have a car. not that i don't like to walk i just 
have this silly macho thing where i must drive a car and go really really 
fast. i'm putting some new exhausty things on it to make it loud and way 
faster i should then be able to get it up to it's max speed of 120.  i'm sure 
your all wondering what in hell does she need it to get up that fast well i 
don't. it's all about size and even tho i'm not a man and i don't have have 
issues like that. i have issues like "MUST GO FASTER!!!" yes indeedy. i love 
it reving my car up. i will never own an automatic vehicle ever. i love my 
little stella. and she loves me. we always race minivans. hehe.my new 
boyfriend is a huge car buff too so i'm learning lots. next week on tuesday 
or so i'm going to learn how to change my oil. i will be so self sufficient 
oh yes. i will. now i just need a job....hrm....

perhaps instead of being the sinigodmother/mafia queen i should be the taxi 
service. get you there in seconds flat. considering i'll prolly be the only 
one driving. hehe. i'd have terrible waits tho so perhaps i'd have to hire 
folks. no. no never mind. i still like the idea of having a totally pc mafia 
except for the dames at the piano. hehe.

colin mowat(sorry i don't have a name to call you)said:
looper is playing: 3/15/00 Granada Theater Lawrence KS  

oooh so close to me i may just have to make a road trip up to kansas to see 
them. i missed flaming lips whilest they were here in okieland.


QUESTION: what is a current and what makes it different from a raisin. other 
than size? because my aunt julie had some in her cupboard last night and they 
taste the same as regular raisins to me 

i'm listening to verve right now (a storm in heaven) and on three hours of no 
sleep they are putting me in a very tired mood and i'm *supposed* to go out 
tonight. i may have to take a raincheck. my uber soft uber comfy bed is 
calling my name. which reminds me i have been deemed as well as my best 
friend sami 'uber frau' amongst our male friends apparently we're waaay 
cooler than the rest of the girls we know. i should buy a cape. 

i coerced my local record shop to start ordering b&s and other oddities like 
cat power.  because i am fed up driving to the city to locate good music i 
just don't have the time and gas being so dang expensive i'm not going to 
waste my moneies on that. $1.40   for a gallon i'm not sure how much that is 
in pounds. sorry folks. or other countries for that matter. but it's too damn 
much i'll tell you. wah. i remember the days when it was .98 cents. per 
gallon. ahh those were the days way back in '99. heh. grr. 

speaking of #sinister. i've downloaded that flaming chatter but i can't ever 
figure out how to use it. anyone please? help me? please? *flounders* i'm 
going to have a new home soon too. at compuserve my mommy dearest found out 
that you can have up to seven emails and it's cheaper than aol. and it's 
actually a good server we used to have compuserve but there are too many 
people in this hosue and my mom doesn't want us all reading "HER MAIL" hehe. 
what i wouldn't give for my own computer. we recieved the cdrom in the mail 
today. yay. 

right. well i've blabbered on enough about nothing so i'll go and disapear 
for another two weeks or so. take care you lot. ciao belli

iris xo
visit:
www.angelfire.com/journal/standhere/index.html
or i'll come to your house and freeze your undies
We're a trillion dollars in debt. Who do we owe this money to? 
Someone named Vinnie?
-- Robin Williams


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From Pelican303 at xxx.com  Fri Mar  3 05:02:19 2000
From: Pelican303 at xxx.com (Pelican303 at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:02:19 EST
Subject: Sinister: Nut 'n berries...hmmmm
Message-ID: <bb.1613f2d.25f0a15b@aol.com>

A campaign slogan involving nuts and berries...oh that is just too easy.  So 
easy I refuse to even make a pun.
I have a question for the brits.  On your keyboard, do you have $ or a little 
pound thingy?  this is of couse not important at all, but still interesting 
(if you have no life and no friends, like me).
On a related note, I noticed someone used a "c" with a circumflex on an 
earlier post and I was quite impressed.  I've never been able to figure than 
stuff out.  I would love to be able to do some oooomlauts if you could 
enlighten me oh great and terrible oz.
hmmm...what else.
So I spent an hour recording a slow little dance thingy today and got 
absolutly nowhere with it...damn it all, my life has been a waste the past 
few months.  oh well...i guess the lack of interesting goings ons gives me a 
chance for introspection and a chance to keep up with the Dawson's Creek 
storielines (Can you believe the ending of last nights episode???  I mean 
come on??/ you'd been showing that on the commercials aaaaaall week.  
Geeeeeees.)
Okay okay...I'll stop.
Lovin you is easy cause your beautiful (and put out)
Rob
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From lookingdownward at xxx.net  Fri Mar  3 09:03:29 2000
From: lookingdownward at xxx.net (The Masculine Marine)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 04:03:29 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Despite all your paint, a woman you ain't.
Message-ID: <38BF7FE0.231A1CC3@crosswinds.net>

I feel a bit silly now. I worry that maybe I offended the masses (as we
all know full well that Robbie--mod that he is--wouldn't say anything
that wasn't profound and didn't speak the universal humanity within us
all) in my comment about men wearing skirts. So I'd like to make this
clear:

Men in skirts are all-right, and though I think they tend to look worse
than they do in trousers (or nothing), all that amounts to is that *I*
don't fancy men in skirts. But I don't fancy most men anyway. In matters
of taste discrimination is a good thing, right? Right?

Right.

I retrieved a list of everybody who was on Sinister, in a bit of a moral
plight, and I consulted my magic 8-ball as to their opinions on my
becoming something of a Sister of Mercy (but a dirty one). It seems
like, although nobody has yet expressed their approval, nearly everybody
believes that this would be a good idea, and would like to take part.
1226 out of 1227, in point of fact, if you'll believe that. But who was
the holdout?

Will 'perfect--he told me so!' Porter. I turned my 8-ball his way last
of all, as I feared such a thing would happen, and that his claim of
wussiness would hold true neath the spectre of such an overwhelmingly
consistent display of popular opinion. But no! he had the pluck to stand
by his convictions. And I respect that so much that I...

...officially renounce my affiliation with the Sinister Village Centre
for Libidinous Rehabilitation. It's for a good cause, really, as I spent
several hours at the library confirming what had hitherto been just a
horrifying supposition.

/me baits you all viciously. He is such a tease!

That's something that I will unveil to you shortly, but needs some work
yet.

I also feel like I wasn't warm enough in my praise of our dear Miss
Scarlet's gallery. Its degree of fabulousness is outweighed heavily by
Her own personal stock, for showing us all a fantastic (and much-needed)
lesson in web-mistressing. The title?:  Give the people what they want!

--which, in this case, turned out to be HER PANTS!

Yes, dear folks, not 24 hours after I gently pointed out that the
gallery was surprisingly modest, Erica Herself remedied the fault, and
rendered a great service to philogynists everywhere. And did you see the
way she wears that hat! What elegance! What a neck!

Don't worry, children, we're almost done.

Somebody posted something about this earlier, at a point when I was far
too idle to make note of it, and now I've simply lost interest in trying
to *do* anything. But I would like to announce that I will be making a
special public appearance at the Beulah/Gomez gig at New York's Roseland
next thursday night, as part of my 'Striped Jeans Retirement Tour 2000'.
Yes, I learned another one of those lessons that children ought to learn
from TV but I somehow missed:  if you're pulling trousers a bit down
your leg and they spontaneously rip, although you can repair the tear
without much difficulty, it's probably good to just let them go.

So, to those of you going, and would like to be shocked and offended
beyond your wildest dreams, e-mail me, if that's your thing. Or if you
show up and see a boy in line with red hair, blue eyeliner, and a My
Bloody Valentine shirt, go up and slap him. Or spit in his face. He
probably deserves it for thinking something nasty, past or present. He
might even be me.

But for those of you eager enough to e-mail me about this, I offer a
special competition. The first 7 people to respond to this ad with 'I
wanna be adored' in the body of their message (to be fair, 5 real-time
listees and 2 digestives) will qualify for a special drawing. What will
the winner receive? A detailed narrative of my preparations for that
stop on the tour, on a mini-cassette, rendered in my very best Serge
Gainsbourg voice. The runner-up will receive the very best vocal
rendition I can give of a set of steak knives, done in my very best Vin
Diesel voice. So act quickly! Ballots are limited!

Content? I went record-shopping to-day. I flipped through every page of
the April issue of Select, but when I got to the picture of Stu and
Belle and the dog, I laughed so hard and so long that I felt I had to
buy it (as I was standing two feet--literally--from the shop owner). I
stopped laughing hours later when I realised that I had spent 8 dollars
on it. But it *is* an adorable picture.

-Paralis

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From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk  Fri Mar  3 11:19:52 2000
From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:19:52 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Well... it'S ALL gReeK tO mE...
Message-ID: <20000303111952.25867.qmail@web3003.mail.yahoo.com>

Iris 
it's that girl I saw
flying over Paris...
(see I've just rhymed Iris... YEY!) 
said...

> i honestly don't care where the sinister village is.
 in actuality tho i am a cold weather stormy snowy
type of girl but greece sounds loverly too. <

I don't think Greece's the right place for sinister
village to be situated... really people... I mean it's
so hot here in
                        SuMmeR
sometimes - in periods of heat -the thermometre
reaches
                the 40C in the shade
I was born and lived here all my life and still can't
bare it... really!! I hate hot weather...
thinking about it.... it just HiT me...
why not having the sinister village built on a huge
                    BoAt?
it'd be something like a 
             FloATiNg CitY...
So... we can float around the world change countries,
places all the time... and the other thing is that we
can make a pier and condemn those who misbehave to be
thrown off the boat... you know like the pirates were
doing... that pier would be useful in other occasions
as well... such as weddings, christenings, funerals
(brrrr) etc...  
    we'll have no country... no boundaries... 
but if you still want the village to be situated in
Greece and the problem is:
> my only fear is 1200 of us taking classes to learn
greek. can you imagine? we'd be a mess most
definately.<
                 do Not WorRy
you see me and my sweet Zoe C. can be your greek
instructors.. we'll use some switches to bring some of
the naughty ones to their senses... but... I can
assure you we wouldn't enjoy it at all... we'd have to
go it for your            OwN GoOd !

And then Iris offered to run the 
                  TaXi SerVicE...
well... I think we need one... and Iris... you've
already got a cabbie, ya know... thinking of your
speed obsession tho' mmmmmm... I dunno...
on further notice...
the owner of the sinister's 
            MeLtiNg CaNdY ReCorDiNgS
Mr Richard Pushong himself thought that once a year
he'd live his luxurious executive office and become
the sinister's very own
                SaNtA ClAuSs
yer.. so he said... that if we're naughty we'll only
get a lump of coal but if we're good we'll get a supa
dupa lollipop... mmmmmmmmm
still, he wants volunteers to be his ElVeS and he
wants to use my poor miniature of St.Bernard's... my
terrié dog Spooky... he said he'd stick 2 twigs on
Spoky's ears so that she could be his reindeer... mmmm
I don;t know... would that be a traumatic experience
for her?
I mean, she had survived one shock already after the
vet'd given her 
           CatFooD instead of DoGfoOd
but anyway...
Steve Kado...
I don't think you're a "twat"... honestly...
and you can be a prince in the sinister village...
we're lacking of princes... Alexander Borgia's a
prince too... and George Henry is definately a 
                   BluE PrInCe
they all do other jobs in sinister land as they don't
want to take advantage of their
                    PriNcEHooD
but that doesn't make them any less of a prince!!
Right?
So... Steve... get yourself together... there're a lot
of things to do here in sinister...
and about the question "who's gonna do all the crappy
jobs?"... I think we should all do the crappy jobs...
We can just leave our occupations for a while and     
        concentrate on dog shite, etc...
we can do that in turns...
Enough said... I have to leave now and try to figure
out that "mafia" thingy...
                    M*A*F*I*A 
it brings to mind huge pots full of pasta, tomato
sauce
and                 MeAt BaLLs
which reminds me... I've bought recently 
       "this joke isn't funny anymore" in a 7"
Bliss!!! But the b/side "meat is murder" track...
mmmmmm I dunno... it's so ... 
I'm not quiting meat anyway... I don't really like it
that much nor eat it often... but... I eat it...
          So... you know what we need?
              A VeGaN ReStAurAnT
that is going to be named 
         Meet Is MuRdeR - VeGaN DeLiGhtS
and ask MoZ to run it... Moz in an apron... MoZ
weaving a big stirring SpOOn at me... shouting...
" Here Vel see... I've got some new plates... Come in
and try..." and I'll say...
"later Moz... I have to dash to the Butcher's now"
which just reminded me... who's gonna be the 
                 ButcHeR?
this is really a crappy job... do we have any blood
staining lovers in here? I hope so... 
I wonder...
        what a twee butcher would look like?
God!! Sorry for boring you people... I know, I know
I'm going...
bye sweeties...
Love + vegan kisses
Vel
XXOOXXX

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From RPushong at xxx.com  Fri Mar  3 12:26:40 2000
From: RPushong at xxx.com (RPushong at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 07:26:40 EST
Subject: Sinister: the biggest load of f.i.b's i've ever heard...
Message-ID: <7a.23f1597.25f10980@aol.com>

~~~~~~~~~~
mother sleep
~~~~~~~~~~
well when i say fibs of course i meant "fourteen iced bears"...ha...laugh if 
you must...
but i loved the bears...they were very original in their own way...not 
everybody will share my opinion...but i thought they were great...
hmm...i've been offline for a while...for about 3 weeks...apart from a very 
distressing visit to an internet cafe...whereupon i was totally blown away by 
the amount of mails i just didn't know where to start...and the clock was 
ticking...but like the proverbial bad penny i have returned...and there was 
so many things that i wanted to say but now i've gone all blank...typical now 
i've got all the time in the world...i can't think of anything to say...i do 
have a teddy bear...and his name is fourteen...cooool...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
santa wears new balance...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
i'm glad my offer to be the sinister santa has been accepted...i make a good 
santa...this christmas for the second year running i transformed myself into 
santa for my 2 young nieces and they bought it hook line and sinker...to them 
i was santa...one of them did ask the question " uncle why has santa got the 
same shoes as you "...to which i replied "santa buys his trainers in the same 
shop"...i think she was convinced...but next year i think i will have to 
change footwear...
i shall be holding auditions for elves...and if anybody knows where i can get 
some reindeer
at a bargain price do let me know...( otherwise i'm sorry velocity but it 
will have to be spooky and the twigs idea )but remember kids if your naughty 
santa will bring you a lump of coal...or even worse simply reds greatest 
hits...
~~~~~~~~~
broadcast
~~~~~~~~~
oh my god...did somebody mention broadcast...i have acquired the new 
broadcast album...i got it last month & its all i've been playing...after a 3 
year wait...it is worth it...fave track would have to be " come on lets go 
"...very sixties soundtracky ...but i'm a sucker for that...the singer has 
such a clear defined voice...definately my favourite female vocalist...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
loneliness is a gun
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
its a song by "house of love"...i've been listening to it quite alot 
lately...its strange even though i'm surrounded by people that i know love 
me...near by and far...i can't help but feel lonely...apart from a trip to 
see cinerama...i haven't left the house in 3 weeks...whenever i feel this way 
i lapse into a tapemaking frenzy...its the only way i can deal with 
things...i get up in the morning i lie in bed...i go to work...i come 
home...and thats it...i find it very hard to motivate myself these days...and 
inbetween i've been taping...i don't let anyone see how sad i am because its 
not my way...so to the outside world everything is normal... but in my world 
everything is falling apart...& i'm not sure if i care anymore...thats what 
worries me...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
pandoras (record) box
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
well nothing so dramatic...but i was recently looking through my vinyl 7"s 
and i realised that a few things were missing...so like inspector clouseau i 
decided to investigate...so i opened a cupboard and out popped cato...no no 
i'm joking...i did some decorating over a year ago...and i put all of my 
records in boxes...so i decided to look in a few cupboards...and slap me 
gently with a chainsaw...i found a box of records...not 1 or 2 but about 
100...i nearly freaked out...how could i be so careless... sometimes i think 
to myself  "where is my mind?"...luckily the box was well packed...so no 
damage is done...this cheered me up no end & i had a weekend of reacquainting 
myself with these lost gems...currently playing " the holidaymakers " 
cincinnatti...and a band called "shiva affect" ...track called "rest is 
easy"...i believe the drummer from shiva affect is now in "ten benson"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
and now for something completely different
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
you know what freaks me out...the krankies...
for non uk listee's the krankies were a scottish husband and wife comedy act 
where the wife used to dress up as a schoolboy and the husband used to 
pretend to be his father... just reading that back looks disturbing enough...
but the strange thing was for years i thought that wee jimmy krankie was a 
little boy...& it totally freaked me out years later when i realised that not 
only was wee jimmy a wee girl but she was married to her father!!!!
oh crikey...its given me the shivers...but i was a young impressionable child 
at the time...how on earth was i to know...oh christ they had a catch phrase 
as well...what was it ....aaaah...it was fandabbydozy...oh my god & i thought 
i had blocked it out...but obviously not...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
thankyou , thankyou in an elvis stylee
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
my sincerest thanks go to alyssa marie...for sending me some of the tastiest 
chocolate known to man...thankyou so much...and to rachel ...received your 
tape today...i love to get tapes...i shall be listening to it today...so in 
the style of the king..." ladies and gentleman thankyou very much "...b&s 
content er...don't thay have a song called " century of elvis " i know i'm 
clutching at straws...

well kids i'll say goodbye...over and out...
                                                           richard...i...p
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From acook at xxx.uk  Fri Mar  3 18:36:25 2000
From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 18:36:25 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Oh you're walking down the lane, coming back from the Catholic school.
Message-ID: <38C00629.D11090B0@cs.strath.ac.uk>

Jesus Christ! I just looked out of the window and the sky has gone the
most amazing shade of pink. Imagine it now for a few
seconds......................................................
........................................................................there.
Wasn't that good? I saw a pink car the other day. It was definitely gay.
Instead of an alarm it just shouted "I"M FREE, I'M FREE, I'M FREE!"
whenever anyone went near it. I think I saw a bloke fiddling with the
exhaust.

J.D.:
> Oh, just briefly, I've been struck by how much our Sinister village is starting
> to resemble Animal Farm,

Oh that's good, because due to being struck down by injury I am
currently unable to take part in much physical activity (no laughing at
the back, you know what I mean) and am consequently turning into a fat
pig. So I'm taking over the village, if that's alright, along with all
my evil curly-tailed friends. If you don't like it you'll most probably
die horribly, or be taken away to the market to be sold. Oink.

Speed with a direction:
> we are in desperate need for a MaYoR...

I nominate Tim Hopkins, but only because he looks like Frank Dobson.
That and the fact that Tony Blair helps him cheat to win things. I
think.

Rob:
> I have a growing pile of monkey feces

Which is strange, because, I have a growing pile of donkey faces. Aww,
they're so cute. Look at their big noses. And their big ears. Look at
them. Look at them. Look. Look at them. Of course donkeys are mokes
(thanks Pete), which are asses, which leads me on to 

Idle:
> too many
> patronising arsewanking dickhead men.

Can you wank an arse? I mean fondling is all very well, but can it be
classed as wanking? And how come when you tickle yourself you don't
laugh but when you.....never mind.

Reading the tale of Susan Span and Sally Spick I'm starting to wonder if
I was in the wrong institution. The scouts was a load of old bollocks
(how often has anyone had to tie two sticks together? For anything?),
but the guides sounds like tremendous fun. Can I still join?

Carolyn:
> you were not allowed 
> to wear earrings larger than a quarter, or else you would have a few nuns on 
> your back. 

Hang on, how did we get back into Mark's mind? Help, mummy, it's dark in
here. Oh dear, that looks a bit nasty. And he should definitely get that
seen to.
Did you play coalie-back fights with the nuns on your back? I used to
love that, it's all about balance. Can we play coalie-back fights at a
future picnic? Bags I on Erica's back. Deceptively strong that one, I'd
wager.

And finally (yay!) Jason:
> okay, i lay in bead last night unable to sleep because i realized that i had
> made two HUGE spelling mistakes. first of all i called stuart murdoch,
> stewart. (tisk tisk i know). and secondly i spelled kerouacs book "the
> dharma bums', darma. phew i feel better now, perhaps i will be able to sleep
> tonight.

And now you've spelt 'bed' as 'bead'. You're going to get a 'could do
better' on your report card if this keeps up. I know you can do the work
that's set you, you just have to apply yourself a bit more. And stop
talking to Andrew....

Bloody hell, it can't be Friday night again, can it? What's that you
say, pub? Oh, alright then...

Alasdair xx
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From Pelican303 at xxx.com  Fri Mar  3 18:37:48 2000
From: Pelican303 at xxx.com (Pelican303 at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:37:48 EST
Subject: Sinister: Walk softly, drive a sherman tank.
Message-ID: <4d.1cb3730.25f1607c@aol.com>

8 billion points to the identifier of the source of my subject line (rob has 
syntax problems).

Hmmm...where to begin.

Our own personal muse, the sleek Greek, Vel, mentioned a village on a boat 
which reminded me of Waterworld which I never saw but still kind of freaked 
me out.  All logistical problems aside (of which there are many), I for one 
would suffer from constant motion sickness, but I'll bet the fishing would be 
good and maybe we could see some whales....hmmm...I'll have to think about 
this.  Oh while I'm here, I'm sure you people won't mind if I tell Vel that I 
got a message saying an e-mail I had sent her couldn't be delivered.  well, I 
tried.
Thanks to Lucy and Scott for the instructions on the proper use of the 
keyboard.  Unfortunatly, none of Lucy's tips worked on my keyboard and Scott 
spoke of some mystical "option" key which seems to have wondered off of my 
keyboard.  Oh well, I guess I'll just have to spell things out...for example 
coo(oomlaut)peration.  Or fac(circumflex)ade.
It is quite obvious that Paralis (or should I say "Paul"...hee hee), whose 
name has always made me fear that I"m going to lose all feeling below my 
neck, has never seen me in a skirt.  Oh I am a sight, let me tell you.
and to our santa in trainers (which I found hysterical and charming, by the 
way)...I don't have reindeer but I still have some monkeys for sale 
(nope...no GLEEK) and they have been trained to pull heavy objects (I 
know...I'm cruel).  I don't know that they can fly (Gleek could fly...I"m 
pouting).
Well I"m gonna run to the mailbox and see if the B&S tee-shirt I only ordered 
yesterday has arrived by some bizarre stroke of luck.  I'm starting to wonder 
is ordering a small was a mistake...well, I do like em tight though...don't 
question that statement, please.
I now return you to your regularly scheduled reality,
Rob
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From caroline945 at xxx.com  Fri Mar  3 18:49:43 2000
From: caroline945 at xxx.com (caroline smith)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 18:49:43 GMT
Subject: Sinister: sorry b+s purists...
Message-ID: <20000303184943.97303.qmail@hotmail.com>

well i i'm writing a bit of a poo message as i've had a truly disaterous 
week all in all, but nay'mind i was very excited to hear that someone else 
is a fan of broadcast..! woo-hoo is all i can say frankly, if your in to 
analogue electronica in a sixties lounge way this is your band. i once sat 
next to them but remained to afraid to say anything. i kinda did that a b+s 
concert, admiration seems to stifle my ability to be coherent and its pants 
cos anytime i meet anoyone i like i turn into a blatherin wreck as you've 
prolly noticed.
yet i would just like to say that i stroked chris's leg, it was most 
pleasant
anyway really should go,
lots and lots and lots of glastonbury style love
(looking at pictures today what fun!)
the poo-message writer,
caroline
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From bazej at xxx.com  Fri Mar  3 20:20:04 2000
From: bazej at xxx.com (Joshua Baze)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 14:20:04 -0600
Subject: Sinister: hello friends and strangers
In-Reply-To: <200003031840.SAA09513@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000303142004.007b3e90@marketingcomm.com>

hi all-

interesting things happening this week.  i'm in my first ever car crash
(just fine, thanks; sore neck/shoulders/back).  and after an extended leave
of absence I've returned to this list.  not that a great many of you would
remember me in the first place.  but it is nice to peek into this little
world again.

for those of you i've missed, it would be good to hear from you again.  for
those of you i don't know, it will be good to hear from you for the first
time.  especially if you live near kansas, which is where i live.

records i'm listening to these days:

*grant lee phillips- ladies' love oracle*:  one of the most beautiful
records I've heard in a long time.  almost lennon-esque, but better.
*the the- nakedself*:  another perfect 10 from matt johnson
*the lucksmiths- staring at the sky*: thanks jamie and jj!
*jeff buckley- live at the bataclan e.p.*:  if you're ever in a record
store and see his on sale for a million dollars, buy it.
*the handsome family- in the air*: their newest one.
*belle and sebastian- the bowlie weekender*" the best b&s boot I've ever
heard.  I found it last weekend.  "new song" is promising...

one last thing:  i'm really embarrassed about my email address.  the
company i work for has the worst name ever, even if it is perfectly
descriptive.  i have a friend who works for "multi-service."  i think they
are both subsidiaries of GloboChem (an inside joke for any other fans of
HBO's Mr. Show...)

back to "work."  be good.

Josh




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From bazej at xxx.com  Fri Mar  3 21:39:10 2000
From: bazej at xxx.com (Joshua Baze)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 15:39:10 -0600
Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #78
In-Reply-To: <200003031840.SAA09513@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000303153910.0082a760@marketingcomm.com>

crap. 

i cannot in good conscience not also mention that since the day it came
out, i haven't stopped listening to "revelations" by gene...  that is all...

josh
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From rob_brennan at xxx.uk  Fri Mar  3 22:54:18 2000
From: rob_brennan at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Brennan?=)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 22:54:18 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: electro-shock blues
Message-ID: <20000303225418.21984.qmail@web304.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello Sinister Boys & Sinister Girls

Velocity Wrote:

"Di (ipecap spice) + Rob Brennan + Colin Mowat
all these caring, loving souls have different views on
how a mental hospital should function..."

And I see no reason why these views can't be
reconciled.  A modern system of psychiatric care
should be able to provide a choice of conventional,
alternative and complementary therapies.  And just
because someone would prefer 240 volts through the
head instead to a nice cup of tea is no reason to
label them insane.

In the meantime, the Sinister Village Home For
Treatment Of The State You're In (somebody think of a
better name quick) now has its own soundtrack of
beautiful soothing choons thanks to the sterling
efforts of new member of staff DJ Nurse Jules (many
many thanks for the tape - Jaffa Cakes (almost) in the
post).  Check in for the awesome track listing.

Other bits of the Village:  

Since Honey has politely declined the mayor job,
shouldn't we have a proper democratic election? 
Preferably with leftie mavericks and corrupt authors
involved.  This is your chance to stop being so nice
and start slinging some mud around.

As for location.  If I could I would gladly bulldoze
the whole of Portsmouth to make way for community.  We
couldn't possibly make the place any worse.

Robster xxx

"Goddammit, Doctor!  This man needs muffins and he
needs them fast!"
  

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From JENOWL22 at xxx.com  Fri Mar  3 23:28:49 2000
From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 18:28:49 EST
Subject: Sinister: I don't get it. Why soil?
Message-ID: <86.135c1a9.25f1a4b1@aol.com>

Hewwo sinister-kids,

I got ink polaroids and little ink movies on order from the bookshop in town 
yesteray. And I saved them to read in bed, and laughed and laughed so much. 
Then I felt a bit sad because Stuart D's left now. Then I read them again and 
went to sleep at half nine with the light still on. 

All the cool kids are going bowling. And they invited all my friends except 
one just to leave me out. But then a boy two years above us that my friend 
knows did a very nice thing, and came up to us and invited me and the other 
uninvited girl to his party in front of them all, so that we'd look really 
cool. He wasn't actually having a party, though, he just said he was in front 
of them.

In fact, I spent this evening watching telly with my mum, and then we danced 
around the sitting room to Judy and the Dream of Horses, and then flopped 
down on the sofa and talked about debating and serial killers. 

Velocity wrote:

<<  who's gonna be the 
                  ButcHeR?
 this is really a crappy job... do we have any blood
 staining lovers in here? I hope so... 
 I wonder...
         what a twee butcher would look like? >>

I think all the hamburgers and things should be ready delivered by ronald 
mcdonald (the groovy clown guy), and there would never be any need for 
butchers because all our stuff would come pre-packaged and not at all dead 
animal like. 

It was raining cats and owls yesterday, which was generally a grate thing, 
because being out in the rain is FUN! Also, when it's raining, I don't have 
to push my way through a crowd of smokers outside the music block to get to 
lessons. And this generally means not getting shouted at, spat on, tripped 
up, threatened with gang rape etc.

Now I finally know what S&M is, thanks to my english teacher. I'm a bit sorry 
I asked, I didn't know it was so naughty. Now I'm not quite so sure I'm as 
fond of ...Sinister (the song). 

Also, Samantha, you owe me a letter :) I look forward to getting real live 
post!

Was anyone from sinister at an all day schools debate on wednesday, because I 
saw a couple of people who looked a bit sinisterish. I was only there for 
support, blame-shouldering, carrying the blazers, and fetching the hot 
chocolate and sympathy when the team lost spectacularly. Still, I got the day 
off school...

It's nearly half eleven, so I suppose I should be going to bed...

Lots of hugs,
Jen



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From splash at xxx.uk  Sat Mar  4 00:13:47 2000
From: splash at xxx.uk (Splash)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 00:13:47 -0000
Subject: Sinister: a change of heart
Message-ID: <008301bf856e$a445d540$3740883e@monkeymachine>

I've been thinking, and it doesn't appear that the village has a newsagents,
so I'd like to withdraw my offer to be the post/milkman and be the village
newsagent instead. Selling strange smelling pipe tobacco and sweets in
little paper bags from large glass jars behind the counter amongst other
inexplicable things, it would be the centre of the village community. What
do you all think?

'til next time

Splash

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From FrugalSyntax33 at xxx.com  Sat Mar  4 00:43:32 2000
From: FrugalSyntax33 at xxx.com (FrugalSyntax33 at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 19:43:32 EST
Subject: Sinister: a change of heart
Message-ID: <65.223465e.25f1b634@aol.com>

i would like to be the town crier.
or the village idiot.
thank you thank you.
amy.
np:  cynicality by superdrag

<< I've been thinking, and it doesn't appear that the village has a 
newsagents,
 so I'd like to withdraw my offer to be the post/milkman and be the village
 newsagent instead. Selling strange smelling pipe tobacco and sweets in
 little paper bags from large glass jars behind the counter amongst other
 inexplicable things, it would be the centre of the village community. What
 do you all think?
 
 'til next time >>
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From eugeneseberg at xxx.com  Sat Mar  4 00:58:45 2000
From: eugeneseberg at xxx.com (Steven Kado)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 19:58:45 EST
Subject: Sinister: oh! i reconisder...
Message-ID: <20000304005845.56250.qmail@hotmail.com>

no, i changed my mind from yesterday's post!

i do have a place in siniville after all.

i could be the wealthy capitalist land owner who lives in a big manor house 
and is hated by the locals.

every odd weekend i'd fly in on my personal lear jet piloted by my elite 
robot staff of butlers and manservants (named karl, florian, ralf and 
wolfgang)! the rest of the time i'd jet set about being a nuisance and 
exploiting the working class.  sometimes during my visits i'd even descend 
to the 'pub' to have a 'pint' with the 'locals'.  However, most of the time 
i'd be busy being eccentric and pervy up in my mansion, monitoring the 
village in a lewd way with hidden cameras.

also, i had a don mckellar sighting today.  i crossed spadina at dundas with 
him, then i passed him and gave him a hard stare, as if to say "YOU ARE DON 
MCKELLAR".  He walked behind me nearly all the way back to my house.  *just 
i was turning into my alley to go up to my place i felt a tap on my shoulder 
  and it was he and he said: 'hey, i think you smell great, why not be in my 
next movie' and i said 'FUCK OFF DON MCKELLAR, I LOVED YOU IN ARROWHEAD, YOU 
JERK! THAT HANDLEBAR MOUSTACHE MAKES YOU LOOK SILLY' and he left crying and 
i went up to eat my fallafel, regretting not having taken my tourettes 
syndrome medication.

*this is a lie.

steven k
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From dee at xxx.ie  Sat Mar  4 09:28:36 2000
From: dee at xxx.ie (Denise Power)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 09:28:36 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha  ah ah ah aha  (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10003040926430.4987-100000@karma.ucd.ie>

_____________________________________________________________________________
>        
>        HoW To KeEp A HeaLthY LeVel Of iNsAniTy aNd DRiVeOtHeR PeOple 
iNsAnE
>        > >
>        > > 1) At lunchtime, sit in your parked car and point a
>        > > hair dryer at
>        > >  passing
>        > >  cars to see if they slow down.
>        > >
>        > > 2) Page yourself over the intercom. (Don't disguise
>        > >  your voice.)
>        > >
>        > >  3) Insist that your e mail address be:
>        > > 'xena-goddess-of-fire at companyname.com' or
>        > > 'Elvis-the-king at companyname.com'
>        > >
>        > > 4) Every time someone asks you to do something, ask if
>        > >  they want
>        > >  fries with that.
>        > >
>        > > 5) Encourage your colleagues to join you in a little
>        > > synchronised
>        > > chair dancing.
>        > >
>        > > 6) Put your waste bin on your desk and label it 'IN.'
>        > > (This is a
>        > >  'must do')
>        > >
>        > >  7) Develop an unnatural fear of staplers.
>        > >
>        > > 8) Put decaf in the coffee maker for 3 weeks.  Once
>        > > everyone has
>        > >  gotten over
>        > > their caffeine addictions, switch to espresso.
>        > >
>        > > 9) Reply to everything someone says with, "That's what
>        > >  you think."
>        > >
>        > >  10) Finish all your sentences with "In accordance with
>        > > the prophecy."
>        > >
>        > > 11) Adjust the tint on your monitor so that the
>        > > brightness level
>        > >  lights up
>        > >  the entire working area. Insist to others that you
>        > > like it that  way.
>        > >
>        > > 12) Don't use any punctuation
>        > >
>        > > 13) As often as possible, skip rather than walk.
>        > >
>        > > 14) Ask people what sex they are.
>        > >
>        > > 15) Specify that your drive through order is "to go."
>        > >
>        > >  16) Sing along at the opera.
>        > >
>        > > 17) Go to a poetry recital and ask why the poems don't
>        > > rhyme.
>        > >
>        > > 18) Find out where your boss shops and buy exactly the
>        > >  same outfits.
>        > >  Wear
>        > >  them one day after your boss does. (This is especially
>        > > effective if
>        > > your
>        > > boss is the opposite gender.)
>        > >
>        > > 19) Send e-mail to the rest of the company to tell
>        > > them what  you're
>        > >  doing. For example: "If anyone needs me, I'll be in
>        > >  the bathroom."
>        > >
>        > >  20) Put mosquito netting around your cubicle.
>        > >
>        > > 21) Five days in advance, tell your friends you can't
>        > > attend their
>        > > party 'cause you're not in the mood.
>        > >
>        > > AnD tHe FiNal wAy tO aNnOy PeOple:
>        > >
>        > > Send this e-mail to everyone in your address book,
>        > > even if they sent
>        > >  it to you.
>        > >
>        > >
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From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com  Sat Mar  4 12:44:34 2000
From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 12:44:34 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Hello (he said tentatively)...
Message-ID: <20000304124435.39409.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hello everyone!

   This is my first ever post on the list, and as a result I�m ever so 
slightly excited about it all.  As with a few others who have recently 
popped their Sinister cherry, I feel I should give a very brief description 
of myself.  I�m lanky, obsessive, but quite personable most of the time.  I 
like art galleries, books, film, and generally running around with a silly 
grin on my face doing things that are �cultural�. Obviously I like music 
too.  My fave bands are B&S, Ben & Jason (any other B&J fans out there?), 
the Beta Band, Blur and Pulp.  I also really like the new Eels LP.  I�m 
currently listening to IYFS, which contains my favourite B&S songs, GMAFH,ID 
and IYFS.

I�ve had a �voice� for about a fortnight now, but I was away for half term, 
and then I never had the time during last week to write anything of any 
consequence.  That�s not to say that this is groundbreaking stuff or 
anything, I just thought I�d better write soon or I�d never get around to it 
ever.

A couple of people were enquiring about Fonda 500.  Well a review of their 
new LP (entitled �8 Track Sound System�) was in the NME about four weeks 
ago, and I would put a link up to the review in the nme.com archive, but the 
review doesn�t appear to be there.  However, the review was by Sarah 
Dempster, the same person who gave the B&S EPs a hard time this week, so she 
may not Ms Popular round these parts at the moment.  I�m quite happy to send 
anyone a copy of the review, but to save wasting people�s time, it�s 
probably better if you just email me personally (samwaltonyeah at hotmail.com) 
and ask me.

Erm, I want to say something really interesting and thought provoking, but I 
can�t right now. Nevermind, I guess I�ll get into the swing soon.

Love and chocolate-covered confectionary,

Sam x.

P.S. Is there a radio station in the village? If there is can I have a slot? 
If not can I start one?

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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Sat Mar  4 14:02:13 2000
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 15:02:13 +0100
Subject: Sinister: 10 Roddington Place
Message-ID: <000d01bf85e3$3d43ff00$dc9e243e@itjfvkli>

I'd be more impressed if someone had released a record called
"Trousercuts".

How Sinister Saved My Life: Yesterday I went to see a film called
Buffalo Sixty-Six. Buffalo Shitty-Shit, more like. I was just drifting
into a probably fatal coma when the word "bath" started cropping up
over and over again for no reason whatsoever. It reminded me of a post
many hundreds of years ago from our number one film bugger, Robert
McRagTag. So I perked up a bit and waited for the bath scene. It was a
disappointing bath scene, but the danger had passed. Thanks, Sinister.

45 minutes ago I put on the excellent 70s WHO 60s BBC sessions, and a
car crashed into a bollard just outside the window. Coincidence? I
doubt it.

Let's get one thing straight. I'm not running any kind of shop at
Sinister Portmerion, I'm running the disco. I'm the man who chooses
the choons and decides which night is gay night, not Mark. Of course
Mark will be able to put on his Tigermilking night, as long as he
books at least three at once. Speaking of Mark, I'm a bit worried in
case he gets into trouble for abusing work e-mail facilities. I can
honestly say that I would never have joined the Bob the Builder Bob
Club if it weren't for Mark's subtle promotion of HIT Entertainment,
and I'm sure I'm not the only one, so if you need us to rally round,
Mark, you know where we are. It'll probably get you the sack twice,
but it's the thought that counts.

Thai News: Election Special
Vote buying is reported to have been rife in the Thai senate
elections. Retailers have also reported a run on Wasabi Green Nuts.

Does that Isobel shag?

Peter

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From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk  Sat Mar  4 15:18:50 2000
From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 15:18:50 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Can I come in now, mum?
Message-ID: <80256898.00547EE9.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk>



Errgh -

It is a measure of what a loyal citizen of this parish I have been these last
two and and a half years, that I have never been away for anywhere like this
long before.  I went skiing in Switzerland, you know.  I love pretending to be
rich instead of just posh.

It's fun looking through over 313 posts, but not that fun.  I have no idea what
you're all on about.  I feel like Bob Hoskins in 'Mona Lisa', out of prison and
bewildered by child prostitutes.  Who's that in the French maid's outfit?  Is
she another St Lucy?

It looks like little Stevie T the film reviewing monkey and I agree about
everything in the movies.  'The Talented Mr Ripley' was an archetypal 7/10 film.
It unsettled me though.  I keep staring in the mirror and saying "But I like
him.....Marge, you like *everybody*" over and over again.  I looked through my
old diaries from schooldaze the other day for references to Jude Law but all I
could find was the line "Jude complimented on my shirt today, which pleased me a
lot for some reason."  I also found a school magazine review criticising his
performance in 'The Seagull'.  Ha ha.

I don't have a scanner.  Can I send Miss Scarlet my clothes in the post?

I've just got a promo copy of the new Delgados album, called 'The Great
Eastern', which has brightened my day.  I didn't even know there was one on the
way.  It's great what you can find in the Guardian music editor's bin.

Someone who was always a bit narky got too narky once and left Sinister in
ignominious circumstances.  But before that he came up with a list of Scottish
bands that B&S fans were supposed to like but which he thought were rubbish.  I
think he dismissed the Delgados as sub-Pavement dross.  Mark E Smith once called
Pavement sub-Fall dross.  My sister once called the Fall a noisy racket.  My
sister knows shit.  Sorry, *the* shit.  No, that's not right.

I was lying in bed unable to sleep last night and rather than count sheep, I
invented a 20 minute stand-up comedy routine.  I was thinking of frightening
children at the Poetry Cafe with it.

This Delgados track seems to be about household cleaning.

Nick xxx


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From JENOWL22 at xxx.com  Sat Mar  4 21:30:36 2000
From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 16:30:36 EST
Subject: Sinister: Boom boom boom like a lighter to the fart
Message-ID: <25.2aaaa54.25f2da7c@aol.com>

Hewwo all,

How's everyone? I keep having nose bleeds so I think the curse of League of 
Gentlemen is getting me in it's evil clutches.

Sam, who has just got a voice posted:
<< My fave bands are B&S, Ben & Jason (any other B&J fans out there?), 
the Beta Band, Blur and Bulp.  I also really like the new Beels LP. >>...
...and I thought it was grate the he only liked bands beginning with 'B'.Oh 
wait, I changed some of that quote, to make me right. Never mind.

I went into glasgow today, and the optician said my contact lenses were all 
mixed up and I get to go into glasgow next week for new ones. I like glasgow 
because I get to go to Pizza Hut with my mum. There was an american guy next 
to me, and he was getting a bit mixed up, and he ordered what sounded like a 
"Meaty Minge" pizza and said that sounded reall tasty which made me spit my 
juice all over the place and crack up laughing until I was nearly sick, 
because minge is pubic hair. And his family all turned round and glared at 
me, and I felt really bad because I couldn't control myself.

I meant to put this in my last post but I didn't. I nearly got kicked off the 
computer in computing class, because I went on to the sinister website, and 
lo and behold, what appeared in the search box but 'porn;gearstick', and I 
prompty got told on by the boy with a fake rubber poo, who had been throwning 
it at my head in a vain attempt to get me off the computer. So, I then spent 
the next half hour trying to convince my teacher that it wasn't in fact a 
porn site but a site for really grate twee kids. Then i took a peep at 'your 
slip is showing' and got accused of being a lesbian. 

I finally read select, with B&S in it, but i didn't buy it because I only had 
a pound on me. It was quite good tho, and they mentioned sinister in it. 
Well, something about obsessed internet based fans anyway. But someone I 
think already said that, so it just shows that i'm not original at all. 

I s'pose I'd best be off now, though straight after I post this, I'll think 
of something I did say but should have.

Hugs ,
Jen

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From GardeningAtNight at xxx.com  Sat Mar  4 23:49:45 2000
From: GardeningAtNight at xxx.com (GardeningAtNight at xxx.com)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 18:49:45 EST
Subject: Sinister: i will buy 500 copies of select and wallpaper my room
Message-ID: <7d.1ddef87.25f2fb19@aol.com>

jen said:
<< Also, Samantha, you owe me a letter :) I look forward to getting real live 
 post!  >>

I know, I was just thinking about it actually.  Sorry.  I wrote you one a few 
weeks ago but it's much too old to send now.  I promise I will.

jason luther (there are so many jasons) wrote:
<< when i was finished i put on bwtas. but forgot to switch it back over to 33
rpms. i was so excited for a second, i thought i discovered a hidden song
(mind you, i was only fooled for a brief moment, im not *that* out of it).
stewarts voice, sped up, sounds similar to isobels. its weird, try it on 'it
could have been a brilliant career'.>>

Or put on 3..6..9 Seconds of Light at 33 rpm.  Le Pastie is the best if you 
like that sort of thing.  I bought a 7" not too long ago that plays at 33 rpm 
but for some reason I didn't realize that until a few days ago.  I just 
assumed they had chipmunk voices, no joke.  I guess it's just been a long 
week.  But the thing is that it sounded much better sped up.  I amuse myself 
too easily.

rachel shrieked:
<< ...a rather lovely poster of the wonder that is stuart murdoch himself!
he is standing by the side of a rather dodgy looking car, looking sort of
shyly benevolent (i'm not sure if that's the word i mean, but it rolls of
the tongue nicely), and very very cute indeed. ahhhh. bless that angelic
little face. >>

So our Struan is a pin-up boy now?  It reminds me of when I used to buy Teen 
Beat.  Seeing it at the store still makes me cringe, and they shelve it right 
next to the music magazines so people always think I'm looking for hunks when 
I'm really looking for ugly musicians.  But I'm not saying that he's become a 
2-dimensional lust object (at least not 2-dimensional).  But of course 
finding a copy of Select is at the top of my list of things to do.

another sam (not me) wrote:
<< Is there a radio station in the village? If there is can I have a slot? 
If not can I start one? >>

Oooh that's a grate idea.  But this is all I have to say: WHAT ABOUT THE 
THEATRE??!!??!! THE BLUDDY THEATRE!! I WANT A THEATRE!!

Thanks to the people who responded to my frantic begging for help with my 
report earlier this week.  I found a professor of sexuality and the law to 
interview so it worked out well.  But photography class.. dear god.  I 
accidentally measured TEN TIMES the amount of developer I was supposed to 
(don't ask), so most of the film was completely black.  I was working with a 
partner so I ruined her pictures also.  My teacher said the edges were black, 
which means that the film was exposed to the light somehow too.  I almost 
started crying right in the middle of the classroom, it was horrible.  People 
asked me what happened and I told them and they gave me really strange looks 
and just walked away.  I've always been the dumbest in my class, but now the 
whole class and my teacher know it.  At least my partner didn't really mind.  
But we've got to take our pictures all over again.  I want to quit and 
shrivel up and die.

But on a lighter note, I had to play a violin solo today for some judges and 
I actually wasn't deathly nervous.  Right before I went on I was 
hyperventilating of course but my orchestra teacher said it sounded confident 
and good.  And I got a tape of B&S demos from Oliver in the mail.  So if 
you're on Sinister, thanks a million and I'll send you something soon in 
return.

And I know they're not at all twee, but I'd like to end this note by saying 
that I think the new Smashing Pumpkins album is brilliant.

Samantha
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From grey7 at xxx.net  Sun Mar  5 04:14:58 2000
From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 23:14:58 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Drinking Strange Wine
Message-ID: <009401bf8659$5ff0ef60$f6d033cf@default>

Hello dear Sinister Siblings! The Sinister Village seems to be coming alone
quite nicely and I think Portmerion would make a splendid local for the
village. Well it seems as if many of the more exciting shops are spoken for,
it also seems I have already have a job waiting for me as the Lovely Laura
Llew wrote:

"So far, I would love if the following would
come & be residents of the book shop: Jim 'I'm so hip I have trouble seeing
over my pelvis' Gilmer"

    ummm...I do believe that's a compliment but one can never be too sure.
Well, I suppose I can take employment with Lil' Llew until I figure out what
sort of shop (no, make that Shoppe) I want to open. Until then I can sit in
Llew's bookstore sipping hot chocolate as I debate the wit and wisdom of
Harlan Ellison with Lil' Llew. Ah, I have not only made another B&S convert
this week but also converted someone to Jeff Noon and Harlan Ellison...the
revolution continues apace. Has the village a video store yet? I can sling
videos with the best of them, (Iwould of course have a massive cult section
filled with indie films and foreign films and anime and anything else I can
think of) or if there is a burning need for a breakfest cook then you need
look no further. Or perhaps I could run the occult shoppe down the lane,
filled with strange old books that moan in dead languages when you open
them? As you can tell I'm up for anything...

    Someone (apologies, I forget who) was brilliant enough to mention The
Prisoner, which was the most dead brilliant television show I've ever seen.
It was with much glee that I found a local shop that rents the old episodes
and managed to complete my collection. I also must agree that Portmerion
would make a perfect local for our Sinister Village and must bring up
pennyfarthings. The Sinister Village must have pennyfarthings because I
think that would be just the twee-est (and I think pennyfarthings look cool,
though I'd never in a million years try to ride one).

    Awhile back Erica mentioned that we should all listen to "Playground
Love" by AIR, and it is with much shame that I admit I hadn't heard of AIR
until several fine sinister people brought it up. So I was looking for them
in Harmony House only to find them under techno...nothing wrong with that
but I suspected that it might not be my cup of tea so I put off buying it.
Well, of course I later heard the MP3 of "Playground Love" and was floored
by it, absolutly astounded. It's brilliant and I rushed out to snatch up the
album. So the moral of the story...when Erica says go out and listen to a
bloody song you damn well do it, it's for your own good it is.

Nick said:
    "I've just got a promo copy of the new Delgados album, called 'The Great
Eastern', which has brightened my day.  I didn't even know there was one on
the
way.  It's great what you can find in the Guardian music editor's bin."

    The Delgados are another band that Sinister people turned me onto
(including the chap who first introduced me to B&S those long fourteen
months ago) and I should add that they are brilliant, wonderful, and a total
blast. A new album coming soon then? Ah, it is indeed a Good Thing.
    I should like to thank all my Sinister Siblings for the wonderful music
they have turned me onto that otherwise might have slipped through my
fingers; from Lucksmiths to Looper to Degados to Elephant Six, such
wonderful tunes.

    Oh, and I would be remiss if I didn't send thanks out to the Sinister
Chatters who had many fine suggestions for me when I had to go read to the
elementary children for Dr. Seuss's birthday. Alas, though I ended up going
with AA Milne's original "Winnie-the-Pooh" stories instead of some of the
wonderful suggestions that I got, the chatters (especially Will for his
"Fredrick" suggestion) introduced me to a slew of kids books that I ended up
getting for my niece.
    Speaking of that, I had a most brilliant time on thursday. A local
school (in fact, the school I attended when I was in K-5) held a community
event where people came in and read to classes for Dr. Seuss's birthday. It
was a blast as the kids were wonderful, intelligent, and a great audience.
    It was rather odd since several office aides and two teachers recognized
me a full decade after I had been there. I'm not sure if it's a good thing
or a bad thing that I've changed so little.

Ah, well....

Recommended reading is: anything by Robert Holdstock..."The Hollowing",
"Bone Forest", "Lavondyss", "The Fetch", all brilliant.

Goodbye Rag!
Goodbye Tag!

Be Sinister Children.....

Jim

"One last love song, to bring you back, bring you back. One last shot in the
dark. One last kiss in black. Walk right on.And keep walking, for as long as
you can. It all ends, old son. In the death, all you've got is a memory and
an old love song".- Warren Ellis, "Hellblazer"

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From daftpunk at xxx.au  Sun Mar  5 05:29:25 2000
From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO)
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 13:29:25 +0800 (WST)
Subject: Sinister: virgin suicides /Sigur Ros plea
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1000305100949.17050A-100000@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>

Attention sinistereenies:)
Sorry for writing another trade request so soon again but I was inspired
by Megan Lehar's rave about the new Air album. It sounds so fantastic!
Does anyone who has Air's "Virgin Suicides" soundtrack and/or the Sigur
Ros EP willing to make a CDR for me? I'm dying to hear it but do not think
I'll have enough money
to actually buy the album. so this will have to be the next best thing, i
guess! In return I can tape them copies of Beth Orton, Primal Scream and
Dot Allison's recent gigs in Perth (very good quality as well!), plus I
have loads of rare/live/unreleased Tindersticks, Belle and Seb, Tanya
Donelly, Belly, Kristin Hersh, Mercury Rev, Air, Beth Orton, Black Box
Recorder, Palace, Hefner, Dot Allison, One Dove, Smog, Galaxie 500 and
loads more (unfortunately, I do not have a CD burner, so the good old
fashioned tape will just have to do!). But hopefully I can make it worth
someone's while:) Reply to my private email address please:
daftpunk at tartarus.uwa.edu.au.
Thanks!
Seeya
Kin Woo

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From MBP99KLC at xxx.uk  Sun Mar  5 15:04:13 2000
From: MBP99KLC at xxx.uk (Katy)
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 16:04:13 +0100
Subject: Sinister: People gotta synchronise to animal time.
Message-ID: <v01540b02b4e81e5de62e@[143.167.67.55]>

Could someone tell me how the tape tree works? Is it just people swapping
tapes of their favourite music? I would really like to join in. Cos I like
inflicting my music on other people and this morning it was making me cross
that most of you lot who love music so much have probably never heard
Dylan's "She's Your Lover Now".

I would like you all to listen to the Silver Jews. Steve Malkmus from
Pavement is on most of their records but they also sound very much like Lou
Reed and a bit like Beck, if he had a soul. How I would like Beck to sound
but he always disappoints me, even though I do like Sex Laws as a pop song.
There is definitely a Dylan influence there too.


katy
x

"When words fail, she speaks
Her mix tape's a masterpiece" - Ben Folds Five


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From pcxas at xxx.uk  Sun Mar  5 17:15:30 2000
From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz)
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 17:15:30 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Cheeky donkeys
In-Reply-To: <38C00629.D11090B0@cs.strath.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.05.10003051705390.4442-100000@granby>



Hellooooo!


It is the day I first listened to 'Lord Anthony' though I have been told i
had already listened to it some time in the past,but you know I do not
remember the first time, I am that sort of person...

It was fine to me, in spite of the quality of the recording, so I cannot
say much of the singing/lyrics by first-hearing,though boyfriend says I
don't care about lyrics.Which is not true.He cannot forgive the
guitar-slashing side of my personality,sniff.But I have not heard Rhoda
yet.It is more exciting to be revealed one song at the time, I
guess.Instead I was played the new anthems by Hefner, and told Ben and
Jason resemble Crowded House (a little) and not been played.


But I am going to be taken to see this retired donkeys home in some
retired corner of Lincolnshire this Spring.Donkeys faces are truly one of
the cutest and saddest things in this world.But I think it is the
influence of being forced to read 'Platero and I' at school at very early
age.They should include that in Section 28.Not because it promotes
zoophilia, or even donkeyphilia,but because it is a drag,very
poetic,maybe,but BORING.Probably most of you have no clue about what
rubbish I am talking about, lucky you.Some Andalousian poet who won the
Nobel Prize, wrote this book addressed to whoever but kids,but because it
is sweet,and twee and about donkeys Spanish children had to endure the
pain of its reading for several generations.


Perhaps I should send a copy to that rural girl, Isobel Campbell...

Arantxa




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From lixibell at xxx.com  Sun Mar  5 20:26:53 2000
From: lixibell at xxx.com (alix campbell)
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 20:26:53 GMT
Subject: Sinister: is it the turkey? it's the turkey! fig roll!
Message-ID: <20000305202653.78977.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hello there

This day is Thursday, but I�ll probably not send this till later.

It�s incredibly dark and brooding outside. Who�s read Susan Cooper�s �The 
Dark is Rising Sequence�? I am almost finished and it�s dead good. I never 
like finishing books because I panic and can�t think what I�m going to do 
with my time. But I still read everything very fast, because I can�t relax 
if I�ve still got things to do. If I haven�t got things to do, I�ll invent 
something. Like opening up all the plugs and cleaning inside them. You can 
never be careful enough when it comes to DIRT.

<lixi stares madly around the room, with her mad starin� eyes, thus becoming 
totally manic>

Yesterday, I went to sleep at 4.30am, after drinking lots of Alco popsies 
and gin. Then got up at 10am. Fool.  Then Starry and me went to an all 
weather pitch, which we had to climb through a fence to get into, as it was 
locked, and played netball. It rained and hailed, but we didn�t care.  
Naturally, we are both fantastic netballists. Then we went to a children�s 
playground and sat on damp seesaws and stuff and got wet arses. It was fun. 
Except when I hung upside down from a swing and my hair trailed in a puddle.

I had possibly the least successful evening flyering. The only people going 
into the gig were old boring folk. So I went and stood by the tube instead 
and got fucking freezing. And still didn�t hand many out. But I did get to 
talk to freaks. And shake their hands. They enjoyed that, but far far too 
much. I felt soiled and had I been stood closer, I may well have been.

Did I say that I got a job in Sainsbury�s? Can you start to imagine the 
excitement I�m feeling? I don�t think you can.


It�s Sunday now. I�ve been writing letters all day and hanging clothes on 
clothes horses. I�ve got my Sainbury�s uniform now, and I must say it�s 
rather stunning. Especially the quilted jacket. Mmhhm.

Oooon, I would be privileged to be your English teacher. I have a lovely 
speaking voice, and my spelling is great. But I don�t know if I want you to 
speak all nice and proper English, you might become boring like English 
people.

Now I have to go, cos the bath is running over.

Love lixi


"Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's an 8 inch anal probe, silly" ~ 
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From rachel at xxx.uk  Sun Mar  5 20:48:14 2000
From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker)
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:48:14 -0000
Subject: Sinister: subject lines? pah!
Message-ID: <001901bf86e4$3e923d20$444c883e@preinstalledco>

my eyes are blurry. i've just read the last 3 1/2 digests and the screen is
beginning to swim. but rather than stop the radiation exposure and do
something worthwhile (like, hmmmm, an essay maybe, or 8...the number is
continually on the rise...) i thought i'd post as well. not got anything to
say mind (apart from to share the massive smile that is splitting my face at
the mo) but i'm sure i can ramble on for a bit to an inconclusive
ending...here goes:

carsmile steve said:

>mrs carsmilesteve and myself *are* looking to move to oxford once
>we've got ourselves jobs, anyone got any spare jobs in the area? go on
gizza
>job,

stevie baby, if you're that desperate to move here you can always work in
co-op. we need a baker, a scanning clerk, checkout chicks (or chaps...hmmm
chaps would be better), shelf slappers...anything really. i turned up for
work on friday (on overtime, as if i'd normally give up my friday!) and the
only checkout operator was....da da da...me. yup just me for two hours. the
managers had to get on tills which was funny for me cos they couldn't work
them and they had to ask for my help in a humiliated fashion. ha. serve them
right for thinking i'm thick...i'll get my revenge...

then stevie t said:

>If this wasn't enough, I feel I should admit that after seeing the new
Steps
video on Ant and Dec on Saturday, H and his pals have become my very
favourite pop thing of the twenty-first century.

...which got me hyperventilating i must say! the words ant&dec and steps and
h all in the same sentence! woo hoo! i love ant&dec. a lot. i mean, they're
always around with their cheeky grins and GRATE sense of humour....i've
grown up with them, i am part of the ant&dec generation without a doubt. who
can forget the infamous byker love triangle which reached it's shock climax
when pj (ant) got blinded playing paintball? and for duncan (dec) to do the
dirty with pj's girlfriend!!??? it was bbc drama at it's best.

their musicianship is often overlooked too; i was hunting out the first 911
album on thursday as a tribute to their memory (it wasn't as good as i
remember, the only decent track was 'the journey'. and maybe 'love
sensation') and i also found in my box of pop delights (and my wannabe goth
crap...don't normally admit to that...lots of 3rd rate britpop too...it's
really bad but whenever i see the oasis video i have the urge to go listen
to heavy stereo. i've resisted so far, but it won't be long.....) 'the cult
of ant and dec' and let me say it was absolutely fab and you should all go
buy beg borrow or steal a copy. a classic. and i'd completely forgotton in
the midsts of time one of the final singles 'better watch out', i can't
think how, cos it really is wicked. i can picture the video in my head...

and now i really have brought this list down to my unabashed pop kid level.
i am truly sorry.

my excuse is that i bought five's 'invincible' yesterday to round off my
poptastic week and am feeling really happy about this and the fact that i've
had The Best Weekend I Can Remember (well, apart from the footy....) and
everything in the world is steptacular, and ooh i can't stop grinning.
things are looking up, goddam.

and the scream are playing reading!!! and the delgados are coming to oxford
beginning of may, and hefner are playing sometime in april (paul> i managed
to delete a load of my mails by mistake including yours so i haven't got you
addy; can you get in touch again cos i've got all the info you wanted), beth
orton's playing here, and brassy,  and i'm going to gatecrasher and seeing
idlewild again at the end of this month...i'm so excited! but also very
skint....so, no more decent bands are allowed to play oxford until the
summer, okay? though admittedly i could make an exception for a certain
7-piece close to our hearts....

and now, just to put the icing on the cake, my dad's about to put my dinner
out (i can smell roast potatos, wicked!) so i will go stuff my face now.

lovin' and leavin' you

rachel xxx


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From feather-boa at xxx.com  Sun Mar  5 20:49:18 2000
From: feather-boa at xxx.com (feather boa)
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 12:49:18 -0800
Subject: Sinister: Oscar Wilde and transport
Message-ID: <INFIEOIIEOOBCAAA@shared3.whowhere.com>

i've been reading a biography of oscar wilde, and i rather like this bit:

harris writes about "...the depression of wilde, who had clearly been crying, harris' attempts to cheer him up, the discovery of the cause, their long argument in the train on the relative merits of boy-love and girl-love, their glimpse of avignon, where they alighted in their pyjamas and overcoats to stretch their legs on the platform and drink a bowl of coffee..."

i thought that was rather b&s - the boy/girl-love bit, and drinking coffee in a train station, wearing pyjamas and a coat.

which brings me onto the transport situation in the sini-village.  i think there should be a train station (i don't know if anyone's already suggested this), and if no-one minds, i'll be the station master, instead of running a brothel, because someone else wants to do that.

and also, i don't think there should be cars, only bicycles and scooters, or if people want to go really fast, robin reliants with 3 wheels.

pip pip,

FB

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From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk  Sun Mar  5 23:33:03 2000
From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (sweetie)
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 23:33:03 -0000
Subject: Sinister: at that point there were 3 things i could do...
Message-ID: <023301bf86fb$50888220$aa37883e@anne666theasylum>

my phone never rings
my clocks never stop ticking
my music is playing
like my mind
games with other people
==================================
sinister

i lost my voice
the one i speak with
:(

ok
ive been working for many a long and hard hour on my poetry page
which i have called 'Insomniac Fishermen'
bcoz one day and that night i could not get the thought of fishermen
standing at night under blackpool pier. i dont even really know what that
would look like, but thats what it was.

rachel tucker talked about and and dec
i used to luv ant and dec
i had the whole of my cupboard door covered in pictures i had cut out of
mags and a few posters.
(now ive got a few postcards and the infamous jacnk nicholson 'heres johnny'
pic to make it look arty farty)
i never got their album tho
i even had a dream about them

ive also had dreams about
boyzone
neil hannon
and stuart murdoch (featuring honey)


dreaming of the stars
sweetie
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From erica.macarthur at xxx.com  Mon Mar  6 09:51:44 2000
From: erica.macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur)
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:51:44 -0000
Subject: Sinister: I like your style, I like your face, so come on
Message-ID: <002501bf8751$b9d359c0$6456063e@default>

Dear you lot,

Rachel Tucker just mentioned Ant and Dec, which is grate. Don't go
forgetting 'You Crazy Cats', 'Our radio rocks' and 'Let's get ready to
rhumble' too. Has anyone else noticed the similarities between 5ive's debut
single 'Slam dunk the funk' and 'Let's get ready to rhumble'? Because I
always start out singing one and end up singing the other.

Nicky D said:

>I went skiing in Switzerland, you know.  I love pretending to be
>rich instead of just posh.

I went skiiing once. We had a lovely french instructor called Denis and we
used to sing 'Denis Denis, with your eyes so blue...I'm so in love with you'
over and over again as we swished down the mountains on our skis. He used to
shout: 'Errreeeeca! Get oup of yoeur botemme!', but then he'd always mutter
something like "vache en graisse.." under his breath. At the end of the trip
we all made him a card, but Louise, who is silly, wrote his name as 'Donice'
and refused to change it. How we laughed.

On Saturday night I was treated to the mod stylings of The Lovelies who are
crap but wear nice capped sleeved t-shirts which show off their arms. I'm an
Arm girl. They did have one quite good song which consisted of the line
'You've got a nice haircut....rilly nice' over and over again, and the lead
singer kept turning round to fiddle with his amplifyer and I'm sure it's
because he'd overheard me and miss Hannah discussing Men's Lovely Backs in
the bar. He invited us down the bowling alley for a 'couple of tins' but we
were too busy shaking that stuff to the theme from 'Alfie'.

Erica
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From Mark at xxx.com  Mon Mar  6 11:05:02 2000
From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto)
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:05:02 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:02:29 -0000 
Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22DB384C@SERVER1>

An answer for Rob. Us Brits have both pound and dollar signs. Do you
Americans have a national Anthem? Do you sing God Save the Queen? What War
of Independence?

You know when a sinisterine makes a joke, and thinks it's funny, and then
keeps making that joke ad infinitum, and occasionally someone will make it
known they found the joke funny, which encourages the original comedian to
keep his joke going cos it boosts his already overblown ego, despite the
fact it's not funny any more, if it ever was? Can anyone think of any
examples?

I got chatted up in a club in Manchester on Saturday. This is almost a
unique event. It was also a bloke who was chatting me up, and a really good
looking bloke to boot. If I were gay, which I'm not, I would have had fun
with this boy as he was dead tasty. But I was very flattered and pleased.
But anyway, the reason I mention it is because it was the first time ever
someone's made conversation as a result of my upside down badge. Okay, it
was "what's that then? Why's it upside down?", but still.

And Kado, If you think you're going to be the village capitalist, you've got
another thing coming. I can buy you, I can buy the lot of you. I already
have a plan to turn the village into a slick money-making operation, with a
Starbucks on every corner and Lighthouse Family albums provided free with
every Beazer home. I know Councillor Evans will be behind me every step of
the way. I also demand droit de seigneur. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Sam, I'm also quite a fan of the old B&J, though I've never seen it written
with an ampersand before.

Feeling rather prickly,

Crackers xxx


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From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk  Mon Mar  6 11:26:19 2000
From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=)
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:26:19 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: MiRacLeS TaKe LoNgeR...
Message-ID: <20000306112619.7270.qmail@web3006.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi to you all pretty faces...
Well well... isn't that the time for the 
               WeEkLy RePoRt?
It's getting harder and harder to keep up with you,
you know... Simon's working on the sinister village
site...
and we're trying to make a list of people and their
occupation, so that everyone will have their link...
            HiGhLiGhtS of tHe WeeK
Peter Miller ScReAms:
> Let's get one thing straight. I'm not running any
kind of shop at Sinister Portmerion, I'm running the
disco. <
MMMM Now what? I thought of Peter running the disco
since I'd first had the idea of the village... I mean,
I can see him walking around with a glass of pink
champagne in his hand, shiny in his mirror jacket (3
buttons that is) flirting with everyone... Have you
seen the film "Little Voice"? remember Michael Cane's
role in the film? well... I imagine Peter like that!!
StEvEn KaDo... says 
> i could be the wealthy capitalist land owner who
lives in a big manorhouse and is hated by the locals.<

It never occured me that we'd have capitalists in the
village... I don't know... what the rest of you think?
shall we have a riot and expropriate every inch of
Steven's land? b'coz if we have capitalists we'll be
needing police too, to protect their "rights" and
properties... y'know...
PaRaLiS (Jared) has marked the importance of a 
             SiNiSteR DaNcE AcAdeMy
that's going to be specialised in ArSe DaNciNg... I
think to know how to arse dance is essential... Jared,
would you like to run it for us??
                  JeN(owl) says
> I think all the hamburgers and things should be
ready delivered by ronald mcdonald (the groovy clown
guy), and there would never be any need for butchers
because all our stuff would come pre-packaged and not
at all dead animal like. <
Yes... Jen's right... we need no butchers and as far
as I'm concerned we need no capitalists either...
JaSoN A. wants to be the 
                 SiNiSteR CoUnCiLLoR
I have to say - and I know that from personal
experience - that he's going to do a great job... so,
all of you who have all sorts of problems... do not
hesitate... Go to JaSoN... 
                              JeAnEttE is
going to be our nurse torturing us with rectal
thermometers *that are much more accurate*, but none
of us would care coz... imagine Jeanette in that cute
nurse suit! She also wants to be Steve C.'s assistant
in the basketball team... helping the players
stretch!! 
BLaiR HiCkS wants to run the
                CoMiC BoOk ShOp
and thinks that this would kill his hope for a
list-crush... I don't think so Blair, in fact, I think
exactly the opposite...
     DaViD MoOrE wants to be the village's
                PeDaNt...
Mmmm no objections to that... I mean, we do need one,
don't we?
     Katie Mulloy very wisely wants to run the 
             HeALtH FoOd StOrE
and I said wisely coz she'd have to work very closely
with Moz... where from would he buy all the
ingredients he'd need for his vegan recipies but from
Katie's store, huh? wise wise Katie... :)
      DaNiEl RyDeR wants to be the sinister's
                 PaRk RaNgeR
and yes, of course there are going to be parks in
sinister land... and trees and birds for Daniel to
look after...
Talking about parks, trees, birds, etc...
FrAnCeScA wants to work in the sinister
              BoTaNiCaL GaRdEn
this village keeps expanding all the time eh?
     Sweet MiNa MaRs wants to run a shop that will
sell all shiny stuff... I like that... especially the
idea of little crystal balls to make necklaces...
Mina, you can call your shop...
                 RiSe & ShiNe
SpLaSh... withdrawn his offer to be the village's
               PoStMaN + MiLkMaN
which I think was very convenient delivering letters
and milk at the same time... and decided that he wants
to be the sinister
                NeWs AgEnT
mmm... OK... SplAsh... whatever you want...
  SwEeTiE... you'd rather run the stud-farm or the
shop
that would "sell things from books to body jewellery,
called electronic"? or BoTh?...
 WiLLiAm MeSsEnT volunteered to be the one who'd clean
the dog shit..!! William... you're so nice... that I'd
like now to vote for you for the place of the 
                  SiNiSteR MaYor
coz a guy that volunteers to clean the dog shit in a
village cannot but be the perfect mayor... right??
   CaRoLyN wants and will do run the sinister
                     BoRdeL...
can I visit Carolyn? we can have tea siting in your
velvet scarlet sofa gossiping about your "clients"...
 SeAn HoBsOn will be the village's   
                BrOwN BoTtLe...
Mmmmm... brown bottle...bumping into stuff...
       AnDrEw DeAn is going to be the
              ViLLaGe's IdiOt...
Do you really want that Andi? can I join you from time
to time? Oh!! and 2 netball teams PlEaSe...!!!
I'm giving you now our very own 
               SiNiSteR DrUg DeALeR
Mr. Peter Ramsdale... no needles please...Gosh...
Simon, how are we gonna make a link for Peter in the
site? we're gonna be arrested... I'm tellin ya...
OOn... should run the sinister
               OoN's HoRrOr ShOw
is that OK Oon? and organise Karaoke nights? dreadful!
 Screaming SaMaNtHa:
  > THE BLUDDY THEATRE!! I WANT A THEATRE!! <
Yes, yes, OK... have the theatre... there's already a
radio station ran by Mark from Nottingham... yer...
 JaMeS GiLmEr is going to run the ViDeO StoRe...
right!
Please... will you have all the L.Anderson films??  
AmY... wants to be the 
                     ToWn CriEr    
and eventually join Andi in his 
          "village idiot's" duties!!       
FeAtHeR BoA... YES please...
             A TrAiN StAtiOn
I love trains and always considered train stations to
be ... magical... now, a sinister Train Station would
definately be magical... and robin reliants for people
who want to go fast... yer... sound nice...
I would also like to reccomend a store that will sell
exclusively 
                MeN's SkiRtS
it can be called:       
               KiLtS & GuiLtS
I think men look nice in skirts... sometimes very sexy
indeed... but it has to be the right skirt... so, we
need an expert for helping our sinister boys choose
the most flattering skirt... who's gonna do that?
JaSoN LutHeR said
> oh.. velocity girl, ill be delighted to fix anything
of yours that breaks ;) <
will you fix my heart Jason? coz as soon as I've read
those words it started to beat in a rather crazy
manner... mmmm... I don't know what's wrong with it...

enough said tho'... I have to leave you now... 
I'm really sorry if I'd forgotten any of you... it's
getting more and more difficult to keep track...
Oh yes... Mark C.... Mark, you saw that Peter Miller
is very unwilling to give up his disco...so, I'd like
to pass to you my responsibilities as the village's
Entertainment Coordinator... will you accept? and you
can have your own club as well... I mean, we don't
have a club for gigs yet... would you like to run it
Mark?
In sinister we have a lot of musicians, don't we?
they'd need a place to ... perform, right?
Oh... StEviE TrOuSSé...
I think the poetryplace should move to the sinister
village now... what do you think?
AnYwAy... 
I'm leaving you now sweet pies... lemon pies... :)
hey... listen... we're almost 1300 people... let's all
play at the lottery... what the hell... one of us will
win... and then we can built our village...
a big, huge, bonebreaking hug that will hold all of
you
love + bubble baths
Vel 














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From windisch24 at xxx.com  Mon Mar  6 15:39:08 2000
From: windisch24 at xxx.com (mike windisch)
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 07:39:08 PST
Subject: Sinister: the idles of march
Message-ID: <20000306153908.3968.qmail@hotmail.com>


sincerest sinister,

<<<< not much for me to say, but stragely compelled anyway>>>>

windisch enjoyed his own personal first day of spring this weekend. that 
fool never waits for the calendar or the lunar to signify the change of 
seasons. instead he waits for the warm sun to fill his face and the whistful 
breeze to cool his brow. this past saturday there was both, plus a family of 
friends, the backyard ramp, and cold beer by the crackling camp fire. the 
first of many. the rebirth of the growing season.

in a related development, this happy monday marks the start of his final 
week as office pest in cubicle hell. come the idles of march, mister mike 
will begin tilling the earth as a gardner with lotus. out of meetings and 
into the air. gone with stress, on with fatigue. begone company email abuse, 
bring on an honest days toil.


<<<< some say. then he say. conversation brings community <<<<<


i can't recollect who, but some sinner said last week that

<<< whenever she got frustrated you would yell "Judas Priest" which of 
course, everyone found hysterical....>>>

while i'm not sure of the scriptural antecedant of this term, it did not 
stop me from busting a gut laughing at the jamoke (noun - a rather nice 
piece of amerikan vernacular meaning fella/bloke/guy)who came into the 
beepster chat room the other day with the handle "hell bent for leather".

Even though i was sedately ensconced in my workaday beige cubicle, i was 
forced by preternatural instinct to engage in a little low-impact 
head-banging while firing off a few library-soft hail satan's.

Seeing the Judas Priest envelope has been broached, and taking into 
consideration that i've yet to see belle and the boyz rawk it live, I wonder 
how a cinema verite documentary of the pre-gig goings on of the 
jelly-filled-danish set would compare with "heavy metal parking lot"...

(btw, if anyone has a copy of hmpl, do be a sport and contact me vis a vis a 
trade.)

<<<<just a thought<<<

Now that stuart david has flown the b&s coop, can we get rid of his quote 
from the sinister footer and in its stead reprise the cuddly-yet-cryptic 
"jelly-filled-danishes" crack. for you see, i am fond of jelly filled 
danishes.


Thinking outside the box once again, Marc C, astutely opined:

>>>>You know when a sinisterine makes a joke, and thinks it's funny, and 
>>>>then keeps making that joke ad infinitum, and occasionally someone will 
>>>>make it known they found the joke funny, which encourages the original 
>>>>comedian to keep his joke going cos it boosts his already overblown ego, 
>>>>despite the fact it's not funny any more, if it ever was? Can anyone 
>>>>think of any examples? >>>>>

uhmm...er...well... such comedy sometimes takes a village, methinks.


<<<<< now we say, bye-bye <<<<

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From dchard at xxx.ca  Mon Mar  6 17:17:02 2000
From: dchard at xxx.ca (ipecac spice)
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:17:02 -0400 (AST)
Subject: Sinister: i think i'm hyper enough as it is
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.1000306130552.149892A-100000@is2.dal.ca>

i keep playing that lyric through my head. i am in a daze today. this
morning i woke-up and thought to myself: "i don't have to go to class
today maybe i will just stay in bed" but then my mom came and said "don't
you have to get up?" so i said "yes" and dragged my self out of bed and
went to class. just one more (although it's 2 hours) and then i'm free!

after having been away from you all for slightly over a week i feel
somewhat hesitant to write. i feel out of the loop. it's like when you
know your friends aren't really doning anything but that if you don't go
you might somehow miss out on the one time sommething happens. anyway...i
know you're all dying to know what happened with the boyfriend. (sarcasm).
well. i got up there a week ago friday and as soon as i saw him it wasn't
going to be the same. the next night we broke-up. luckily we still had a
really good time for the rest of the week. although it was somewhat bad
b/c he can't understand why i broke-up with him when we get on so well
and i nearly forgot myself. everything was the same between us i just saw
it all differently and i couldn't go back to seeing things the way i used
to. i am feeling a bit more reconciled now. however he is under the
impression that we were "meant to be" and that when he gets back
everything will be ok. he's such a wonderful guy but he is not right for
me. i don't mind being alone right now but i fear spending the rest of my
life alone. i might not even mind that (as long as i could have a few
flings or something) if i knew that i would have friends who would end up
alone too. it's not that i want a relationship it's just that i don't want
everyone but me to be in relationships. i could wait a good while before
settling down but my fear is that by the time i'm ready all the good guys
will be happily paired off. oh well. i have always been a pessimist but
somewhere along the line i think i may have become an optimist and i now
believe that everything will work itself out in the end.

happiness to you all,

di


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From on-top-of-the-world at xxx.uk  Mon Mar  6 19:25:05 2000
From: on-top-of-the-world at xxx.uk (ouiJ)
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:25:05 -0000
Subject: Sinister: I said I would be back. And I am.
Message-ID: <200003061925.TAA01471@mailhub.solent.ac.uk>

Hello again sinisterine people. I used to post to sinister all the time and since 
I've got lots of work to do and have run out of evasion techniques I thought I'd 
return to the fold. Mmmm. I am weejay or ouiJ or even yummyfur sometimes 
but always weejay in the real world unless you're my mum or my sister, in 
which case I'm James. I'm also a bit cautious about writing this because I 
wasn't the most well-behaved listee before but I promise not to cause any 
trouble this time. Don't worry, I will get onto real subjects eventually... 

Props to Nic. I slept on your living room floor a good few months ago though 
this may well come as news to you. 

Hi to Fiona. You slept on MY living room floor about a month-and-a-bit ago, 
though this will certainly come as news to you. 

I don't know what I would be in the Sinister Village. Any suggestions? one, two, 
three..... 

Rachel Tucker and everyone else in the world said; 

>GRATE 

which is beginning to. Hmmmm. And more to the point she mentioned Brassy 
who played recently in my local toilet, The Joiners Arms, to a crowd of 8 
including me & friend and still blew the place away. So go and see them, 
people, before the record company find out. 
She mentioned Ant & Dec too. Me and my friend Duncan are top imaginary pop 
band weejay and Duncan. Oh yes. Now I just have to persuade him to change 
his name to Wuncan and we're in business. 

That's long enough I think. 
See you in seaworld. 
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From rarepleasures at xxx.net  Mon Mar  6 20:09:31 2000
From: rarepleasures at xxx.net (Tony Charles Green)
Date: 6 Mar 00 20:09:31 GMT
Subject: Sinister: belle and seb weblog
Message-ID: <20000306200931.22209.qmail@nw177.netaddress.usa.net>

theres now a b&s weblog at http://simplethings.weblogger.com/
those who sign up and want to contribute can mail me 

Tc

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Fax: 0207 565 0020
Mobile: 07941 253 272
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From seblenoir at xxx.com  Mon Mar  6 20:11:54 2000
From: seblenoir at xxx.com (seb Lenoir)
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 12:11:54 PST
Subject: No subject
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From bazej at xxx.com  Mon Mar  6 21:28:47 2000
From: bazej at xxx.com (Josh Baze)
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 15:28:47 -0600
Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #80
In-Reply-To: <200003061719.RAA25199@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000306152847.0071fb74@marketingcomm.com>

does sini-village have a national anthem?  does it need one?  if so, i
think it should be "all men are brothers," a dandy little beethoven
composition, as performed by the one and only paul robeson...

listen to more paul robeson records-

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From feather-boa at xxx.com  Mon Mar  6 21:37:19 2000
From: feather-boa at xxx.com (feather boa)
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 13:37:19 -0800
Subject: Sinister: theaters
Message-ID: <BKMIDEEIHBAHCAAA@shared3.whowhere.com>

if there's a theatre, it should be open air, because you have trees and bushes growing backstage that way, and it's really magical.  the oat in regent's park has a badger and everything.  and the actors can have picnics on stage after the matinee.  except that it only works in summer, and then you have to be wary of rain and hayfever.

pip pip,

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From justin at xxx.com  Mon Mar  6 21:44:07 2000
From: justin at xxx.com (Justin Williams)
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 15:44:07 -0600
Subject: Sinister: at the end of the long and winding road...
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000306153401.00aaaa60@192.168.1.1>

This may not really be necessary or even desired for that matter, but I 
just wanted to say goodbye to everyone I've ever talked to here on 
Sinister...although I will always love B&S, I feel I have no real 
connection to this list anymore so because of that I should unsubscribe. 
Although I enjoy the wit and humor of you kids, I don't have anything to 
contribute to the "village" or any of the other topics that have come up 
over the past month or so. In other words, I love B&S but I just don't 
think that's enough, either to benefit from the list or to benefit it. It's 
been a long and fun journey, and I'll miss you all. If anyone wants to keep 
in touch with me, I will still frequent #sinister from time to time. Take 
wonderful care everyone...au revoir...

Love and Happiness,
Justin

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From justin at xxx.com  Mon Mar  6 21:44:33 2000
From: justin at xxx.com (Justin Williams)
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 15:44:33 -0600
Subject: Sinister: Mime-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000306154416.00aa1880@192.168.1.1>

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From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk  Mon Mar  6 22:32:05 2000
From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (sweetie)
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:32:05 -0000
Subject: Sinister: and the bass drums on
Message-ID: <000201bf87bc$1ea82280$c435883e@anne666theasylum>

sinister

the thoughts of sweetie
in third person
========================================================
after reading velocity farewells post sweetie realised that she wouldnt want
to run a shop, oh no.
sweetie knew what she wanted to be.
sweetie wanted to be the sinister minister.
the hopeless unbelievers would come to her. and she would sit them down in
her little room. and they would tell her their sins. and beg for her
forgiveness
as if by some miracle of her being she could turn back time and give them a
second chance.
she would sit back and take a deep breathe in, a breathe that was
verging on being a sigh of pleasure or perhaps one of pain.
after this she would sit up and lean her clothen elbows on her old oak
table. her wild eyes would glance around the room, as if looking  for
the omnipresence, the omniscient that demanded of her to forgive these
sinners.
but sweetie doesnt believe in any omnipotent presence.
looking the hopeless unbeliever in the eye she would whisper in a voice that
could chill the hearts of a nation. but warms the cold toes of a sinner.
'i will try not in vain to take away your pain, oh hopeless unbeliever, u
know within yourself u should have stayed in and brought about that warm
feeling that u crave, u know u would have felt far better had stayed and
played with yourself'
=======================================================

shine on
sweetie
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From colin.mowat at xxx.net  Mon Mar  6 22:34:01 2000
From: colin.mowat at xxx.net (Colin Mowat)
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:34:01 -0000
Subject: Sinister: You can't always find what you want, but if you try sometime, you just might find, what you need (corruption of Jagger/Richards)
Message-ID: <002b01bf87bc$25a90ae0$09cd2cc3@default>

Monday 6 March 2000
22:32

Dear people,

Just got home from work at 9:30pm, and I'm supposed to finish at 5pm but
crisis,crisis,crisis - all sorted now......

anyway I was trying to track some stuff down by Gang of Four and came across
this which I thought might interest some of you. A sight that has a few
rare/live mp3s, realaudio and videos clips of Beck / Dinosaur Jnr. /
Everclear / Foo Fighters / Hole / Husker Du / Jesus and Mary Chain /
Lemonheads / Nirvana / Perfect / Pixies / PJ Harvey / Radiohead /
Replacements / Mathew Street / Teenage Fanclub / Urge Overkill...........

OK...so I've never heard of a lot of them.......but if it's your kinda thing
check it out...

http://www.imagebusiness.com/mikec/altrare.html

now my bath is ready.........(I never found any Gang of Four)

goodnight and
sweet dreams

Colin

What I'm listening to right now:
PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love(album).......listening spurred on by the "O
Stella" I found.



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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Tue Mar  7 05:04:27 2000
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 05:04:27 +0000
Subject: Sinister: lasange de la bolognaise
Message-ID: <200003070505.FAA00324@missprint.org>

Hi,

After reading a few hundred sinister posts, which was quite a fun but 
strenuous task (especially since I went home from University for 2 days 
and come back with about 100 sinistermail to read), I have matured from 
being the bully in the nursery to be the smallest kid in middle school..

if I give you all my dinner money will you promise not to beat me up?? 
Please be nice to me :-)))

I loved reading all these e-mails, Velocity is sLiGhTlY mEnTlE but I bet 
she is beautiful, she talked about currency in sinisterland and I think 
we should trade things in cans of RedBull, because

1. they're all quite regular in price - other drinks like cocacola varies 
from 24p a can to extortionate 80p, but R.B. are normally 1.15 (+-0.05) in 
price except for in clubs where they cost literally millions

2. they are worth loads of money

3. reading these e-mails it seems that everyone is weird and hyperactive 
like me, and drinking r.b. will make us all even more w&h.

4. it can keep us awake for longer to read sinistermail.

as to a job in the village, I wanted to be taxi driver but someone took 
that job before I was old enough to drive (although I was Damon Hill on the 
toy car in the nursery) so I am out of the job...  I think I'll just become 
the village outlaw renegade, much like the big bloke in the cheesy tv show 
"renegade", but instead of riding on a harley davidson I'll be on my go-ped 
which is much more cool.

I really don't think sending a really boring mail like this is the best way 
to lose my virginity, cos my mum always say if I wait it'd be special... but 
it's too late cos honey's humorless computer had propositioned me with the 
notification e-mail <sob> but I really must stop now before any of you pass 
out.

Please send me e-mails and things so that I don't feel as if everyone's 
ignoring me.. unless you really want to ignore me (<sad puppy look> you 
wouldn't would you? </sad puppy look>)

bye bye
Ken
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Too frumpy for the teenage population of her time
Car coat, she has a quilted jacket with a hood if it rains
Big pockets for the pharmaceuticals she takes to fix her brain.
- Belle & Sebastian

* I don't know why the subject is lasange de la bolognaise - probably 
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From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk  Tue Mar  7 09:57:26 2000
From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk (Elizabeth Daplyn)
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 10:57:26 +0100
Subject: Sinister: six _shall_ turn it back
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From lucy.alder at xxx.uk  Tue Mar  7 12:10:16 2000
From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:10:16 -0000 
Subject: Sinister:  And the "quick, invent an award so they can win someth
	ing this year" award goes to...STEPS!
Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F3352FB9@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk>

What's the first sign of madness?  Growing hairs on the palm of your hand?
Hunting high and low for your specs while they're on the top of your head?
Or HEARING VOICES?  The other night, being thoroughly worn out and in
desperate need of some beauty sleep, I brushed my teeth, pulled on my
pyjamas and climbed into bed, wrapping the duvet round me to make a snuggly
caterpillar of myself.  I shut my eyes and awaited Mr Sandman.  Suddenly,
through the darkness, I heard something.  No words, only the sibilance of a
whisper, which continued for several minutes.  At first I thought it was
robbers in the back garden, come to moider me in my bed, but then I realised
the sound was coming from inside my room.  Mice?  Surely not - they live in
the kitchen and living room but, as far as I'm aware, they haven't mastered
the stairs yet.  And besides, these noises were too hooman.  Maybe it was a
ghost.  There's a presence outside the cellar door, of this I am certain.
But it's a cold and eerie presence, not warm and snuggly like my bedroom.  

Only one explanation remained - the voices were the product of my mind.
Cripes, I thought to myself, this is most strange.  I sat up in bed and
thought about things for a while and the whispering continued.  Were these
good voices or evil?  Would they tell me to blow up the Houses of Parliament
or just to run naked through the streets of Harringay?  As I waited for an
answer, I started to hear snatches of music.  Now this was weird - were the
voices trying to inspire me into putting my (ahem) talent as a saxophonist
to good use by forming a Kenny G-inspired indie soopergroop?  Or, when
crossing my bombsite of a bedroom in the dark, had I KICKED THE PLAY BUTTON
ON MY MINIDISC AND WAS I SCARING MYSELF SILLY FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER?  I
think you know the answer.  Ho hum.

Lately, I've been thinking that I might be able to make a bit of cash
accompanying tourists around the most delightful area of North London, the
bit with the postcode N4, namely Harringay.  Come Up The Passage Tours
would, obviously, spend a good deal of time getting to know the famous
Harringay Passage, widely considered the best place to acquire old sofas and
shopping trolleys with locked wheels.  Then, the group would stop off at the
renowned pound shop, Moominland (true!), for inexpensive souvenirs such as
mousetraps, fingerless gloves and Brillo pads.  Finally, I'd take them to
Sainsbury's to do a bit of celebrity spotting in the vicinity of the fish
counter.  Lixi, I looked out for you last night - were you hiding behind
that big pile of crabs?  Liquid refreshment would be provided by the Olde
Ale Emporium, purveyors of Black Wych Stout (great stuff).  Anyone
interested?

Slightly worried to find our idol wearing socks and sandals in Select this
month...

Juicy Lucy










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From angel_blackwell at xxx.com  Tue Mar  7 13:59:13 2000
From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (kinky angel)
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 08:59:13 EST
Subject: Sinister: me flat is haunted
Message-ID: <20000307135913.19843.qmail@hotmail.com>

k...my apartment is haunted...we have a ghost...he's stopping me from 
sleeping. there's nothing like showing up at work with lovely blood shot 
eyes...i look rather fetching. but there's this old guy walking around our 
apartment, and he doesn't see too well, keeps bumping into things...well, 
shit, i saws him and he scared the crap outta me...
k...bought gorky's psychotic motherfuckers...what a load of rubbish. i've 
had this cd for a bit, listening to it at work, and i still don't like 
them...that's what i get for listening to nme.com.
k...listened to you lot and bought hefner...course i bought it and liked it 
after they played our little arctic paradise.
k...i think i'm one of the few sinister boys who gets disappointed when 
there aren't any posts...i have my browser open all day at work and love to 
read all your little insights...
well, gotta go and beat the gorky's over the 'ead...time to put in some 
labradford...gotta find that bridget fonda 500 and tompaulin schtuff as the 
red geisha dictates is ace at the moment...
later...maybe scooby do, sans scrappy, can solve the mystery of my ghost...
a.b.
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From honey at xxx.org  Tue Mar  7 14:56:57 2000
From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:56:57 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: please read me
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0003071241570.3441-100000@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk>

Your List Mummy's going away from tomorrow for a week to somewhere weird
called Nude York in "the Americas" to gambol in the fields with other
Sinistereens, and wants a word before setting sail.  Settle down at the
back.

The Village.  Sometimes a thread of discussion that lots of people love
winds on and on and dominates the list.  That's because lots of people
love it (can you hear me pussyfooting here? *gulp*) but there's always
a silent grrring sound if something dominates the list for too long.
I've had a few quiet comments and mails about it and I think it's
appropriate to be Mum and say "hush" a bit now and let some other stuff
through please.  With 1200 people on the list we can't all be
photocopies of each other, and something that appeals to a lot of
people will wind a few others up.  The key is "balance" so we can all
live together without calling out the Sinister Riot Police.  I've
spoken to Vel and Simon (who's doing a Village website) and they're
going to provide a village email address soon where you can send all
your requests to be the village prostitute, or whatever.  So please,
for now, ease your foot off the village thread and talk about other
things, like we used to.  I expect you to all be GOOD while I'm away
and don't go scaring the neighbour's chickens.

Can we also focus a little?  New people often love the galloping
momentum this list has, but when you're a list pensioner you'll have
trouble keeping up.  All I'm really saying again is please ask
yourself "do 1200 people want to know this?" before you hit Send.
Anything that's witty, wise or wicked will probably be ok, but please
don't just use it as an exhaust valve.  If you're not reading most of
the list mails, please don't post.  That way it'll get back to
something manageable we can all read, and won't fragment.

Now whenever I mail a message like this, no matter how much I say,
"please don't anyone think this is directed at them", I always get a
mail or two back saying "I'm so sorry" or, occasionally "Why did you
humiliate me publically".  I'd like to go on record saying that I have
been composing this mail for ages in between other jobs and I don't
KNOW whose mail I'm following on the list, so it's NOT directed at
you!  Yes you!  Or anyone!

The Village (of the Spammed).  Someone's told me some evil wicked loser
has mailed a few of you with irrelevant rubbish that looks a bit like
junk mail and it just might be through list membership.  If you get
anything like this that you know for sure a truckload of other listees
got, please send the message on to me, with the full headers option in
your mail program if you can find it.  But don't just send me any junk
mail you get!  I'll be swamped and I'm already mopping up madly.  If
someone's using the list addresses to spam list members, I'll
personally remove their vital organs with an ice-cream scoop and use
their carved out bodyshell as a bathtub.  You'll notice that the WWW
site and archive have anti-junk mail stuff in them which will stop the
commercial spammers, but I suppose someone who could be bothered doing
it manually could get round it.  So I'll set the dogs on them.
Maternal grrrrrrr.

"The Sky at Night".  I have to comment on this, Oon Siam Droolz.  It's
an astronomy program on the BBC, starring Patrick Moore, who is nice
and big and fat and mad and as old as Jupiter.  I once met him in an
observatory in the Canaries, when I was what advertising agencies call
a "teen-ult", and he called me "sonny" and I could swear he patted my
head.  He has remarkable views on race and creed, akin to the Duke of
Edinburgh's.  Oon, keep watching, sooner or later he will make a
massive racist indiscretion while describing a comet's tail, or just
die on camera spectacularly.

Finally seeing I'm going away for a week, I'm relaxing a few rules that
keep just such junk mail and "unsubscribe" messages away from the list,
so you might see a few more like yesterdays.  Necessary evil, so that
any genuine messages don't sit waiting for approval while I'm getting
nude in Nude York.  When I get back, be assured that I will flick the
Big Sinister Switches back on so only I get them.

Be good now, I have spies in the colonies who will tell on you :)
Honey x


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From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk  Tue Mar  7 14:58:51 2000
From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:58:51 -0000
Subject: Sinister: It's Pancake Day!
Message-ID: <E12SLj4-00071q-00@nottingham.ac.uk>

It's Pancake Day!

At least I hope it is. My dad once gave a school assembly about 
Shrove Tuesday, and its history and planned a whole day of 
pancake day fun only to discover that it wasn't pancake day at all, 
because that was next week. The whole of his staff were sworn to 
secrecy and the use of the words "whip","batter" and "toss" were 
banned within a four-mile radius, completely ruining the Women's 
Institute's S&M party being held in the church hall.

It's Pancake Day!

Doesn't Pancake Day sound much better than Shrove Tuesday, 
just like Bonfire Night sounds better than Guy Fawkes Night? I think 
we should rename Easter as Egg Day, Halloween as Ghost Night 
and Christmas as Give Granny A Funny Hat Day. Or maybe Sprouts 
Day. That's a lot better.

It's Pancake Day!

If you want to know how to make a pancake, why not vist Pancake 
The Clown "the only clown in England to have a Diploma of 
Clownology from the United States of America" at 
http://www.pancake.co.uk/

	grrrr!

		Robin xx
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From invisible_boy at xxx.net  Tue Mar  7 11:26:46 2000
From: invisible_boy at xxx.net (invisible_boy)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:26:46 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Lungfull of treacle
Message-ID: <000701bf8828$34c5a260$03cfb0c2@oemcomputer>

Hello Sinister,

Hey look at me, I'm not at work. This is a very strange
state of affairs which I'm not really used to dealing with.
In fact, I havn't got a bloody clue what to do with myself.
I've been to the shops, drank numerous cups of coffee and
now what? Nieghbours isn't on far ages yet. Oh hang on, the
pubs opened 10 minutes ago. That's me sorted.

It makes me very nostalgic for my carefree(ish) studenthood.
I suspect that having a wage has spolied me a bit. hmmm. So
to everyone who is studying right now, ENJOY IT while you
can, because things only go downhill from there. It's tue. I
even joined a pension scheme the other day so that's the
last remains of childhood firmly and finally signed off.
*sob* uslessly howls: "but I'm only twenty two for
chrissakes...."

/me rallies against the system. bruises his knuckles, then
falls over. good grief.

The bestest ever thing I ever saw in the whole of the other
day ::
An oldish bloke sitting alone in town wearing a wolly hat
and blowing bubbles with one of those small hoop and washing
up liquid affairs. That was just the nicest thing. I wanted
to go and talk to him but he looked so content I didn't dare
to. Made me smile anyway.

This is my classified ad:
Anyone in the Leeds area wanna join/form a band? Go on, I
know you do. I can do guitar/bass/word duties to suit and am
a musical whore who will play in just about any genre you
can think of. Yeh, it'll be fun, I promise.

Love and a bundle brimming with no badness.

Kev
(emotional loony)

ps. FUCK YOU, BT, for not letting me join your elitist
facist free internet scheme becuase I choose not to have a
Visa card. I hate you, and am changing my phone company to
spite you. PARP! Hurrah for NTL.

pps. Kalls, sorry.

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From nik_ovenden at xxx.com  Tue Mar  7 18:41:04 2000
From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:41:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: ha ha!  a voice...at last, shall i talk about sinister village?
Message-ID: <20000307184104.24183.qmail@web2104.mail.yahoo.com>

Just kidding, and i bet 1200 people don't want to read
this...
my first order of business is to say hi, nice to
finally speak to you all.  Special hi to my lady
friend vikki, who is currently dwelling in the
nursery...ha ha ha ha...

so, let me get this straight...if i talk about my body
parts, i have to add a picture?  yahoo won't let me,
but when i get a better account i will.

Next - I am wholeheartedly in support of B+S's stance
on section 28 - anyone got any idea when any marches
are on?

Finally, pink carrots are very bad for your health. 
And banjos.  and other fluffy three legged
ostrich-like creatures.

Stay cool, y'all
Love niko
xxx
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From honey at xxx.org  Tue Mar  7 20:18:53 2000
From: honey at xxx.org (honey at xxx.org)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 20:18:53 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: posting for the list - new album tracks. (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0003072014550.3763-100000@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk>

Oh.  Before I go, Stuart M just popped into the chat channel
#sinister with Ciara, our poster girl from "If You're Feeling
Sinister".  Here's the new LP title and tracks.  

B&S content :)

See you in a week,
Honey xxx

P.S. FYHCYWLAP?

------

Hi Honey,

just before you fly off across the pond, Stuart told me the new album tracks 
and I thought I tell you too. The album's called

Fold your hands child, you walk like a peasant. 

I fought in a war
The model
Beyond the sunrise
Waiting for the moon to rise
Don't leave the light on baby

The wrong girl
The chalet lines
Nice day for a sulk
Women's Realm
Family Tree
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From james at xxx.uk  Tue Mar  7 21:44:59 2000
From: james at xxx.uk (James Glossop)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:44:59 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 04:22:23 -0000
Message-ID: <000201bf8337$f8687b20$882b883e@uxlfdlvk>

hi all

this my my first post, so rather than wasting my time typing it, please
imagine the words -as if you care- after every sentence i write. ok, here
goes.

i kinda e-mailed a couple of peeps before getting out of the nursery; and
sweetie was kind enough to put some of my poetry/ 'poetry' on her
webby-site.

listening to new fiona apple album at this moment in time. anyone else think
it's good? or do you think it's some stuck up american girl releasing lots
of sell-out records?

sinister village: i reckon we should all take over (non-violently, of
course) a place like 'roysten vasey' like in the league of gentlemen. and we
could apply all the nessecary stereotypes from there (ie. in-bred
shop-keepers etc).  i don't think i deserve to even think of a role in the
all-impotant-sinister-village, being a mere first-timer as i am (poster to
sinister, you filth ;)

i guess i could fulfill a nice slave-role. or is there gonna be no class
structure?

hope you're all fine and dandy

love

j glossop. worksop [roysten-vasey 2] england.

ps: b &s content, oh, err, right............... fantastic, aren't they?


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From simon.aurell at xxx.se  Tue Mar  7 22:31:49 2000
From: simon.aurell at xxx.se (Simon Aurell)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:31:49 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Read this
Message-ID: <000501bf8884$efe0a200$256b97d4@brouhaha>

Anything about the Village can be sent to sinister_village at hotmail.com, at least for now. This is important, mind you. Honey's right - the village thing has taken too much space on the list, though this is NO reason to give it up.
So go ahead and contribute, don't be shy!
love & care,
Simon

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From rachel at xxx.uk  Tue Mar  7 17:16:43 2000
From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 17:16:43 -0000
Subject: Sinister: the last time
Message-ID: <000c01bf8859$21808180$7d40883e@preinstalledco>

<sniff>

<restrained sob>

<deep breath>

ummm....i'm off. hopefully not forever but at least till the summer when i
finish my a-levels. it kind of hit home when my web of deception fell apart
and my teachers realised that i haven't written an essay for any of them in
nearly 4 months...all my subjects are essay subjects so that's fairly
impressive...that actually i do want to go to uni and do english and stuff
like that. but i need to do a lot of work and basically restructure my life
and get it back on track.

 so i'm leaving this sinister land. i've been using it as an escape more and
more lately. i always knew that at some point i'd need to face up to things
in my real world and now the time has come. i don't know if i'll manage it,
but i'm going to give it my best shot.

i'd just like to say thank you to all of you, hugs all round and especially
to honey for being honey. also major teary shouts out to various people,
some of who i know, others i don't but for the last year you've kept me
entertained and kept me going when things were bad...so cheers to ailsa,
adam, scottie, owen, glam pam, carsmile steve, jim gilmer, nick dastoor,
velocity, and jason andreas, though really every single one of you should be
singled out cos you're all special.

if anyone wants to keep in touch, please please do, and for the very last
time i'm going to

love you and leave you

rachel xxx

p.s that issue of select has cleared up lots of things that have been
bugging me...i didn't realise that the new shack single 'oscar' was
basically about a disabled guy having sex with a prostitute in
holland...instead of hearing that oscar is 'wheelchair-bound', i've been
hearing it as 'wiltshire bound' all week...nb: non-uk listees - wiltshire is
a county in the west of england, so cue lots of jokes about inbred farmers,
swindon town fans, bizarre sexual practices etc. (my tongue is firmly in
cheek here, i grew up as far west in england as you can get and boy do i get
people looking for my tractor....)

also it sorted out the syphilis/sinfulness confusion over the primal scream
track 'keep your dreams'...the bobmeister seemed quite insulted that
everyone thinks he's singing about nasty diseases, serves him right for bad
pronunciation....

but till my dying day i *still* think that my misheard version of llpj is
far better than stuart's...instead of him singing about the girl who's been
making 'plenty cash' in an illegal manner, i swear he really does compare
jane's miserable existence to that of 'lesley ash', her of
debs-in-men-behaving-badly fame....

and on that (bum) note, i really am going

                                        xxx
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From zutroy at xxx.org  Wed Mar  8 00:01:14 2000
From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 19:01:14 -0500
Subject: Sinister: sinsitre is freaky
Message-ID: <v04210104b4eb46abd21c@[206.153.194.11]>

hello sinisterines. hope you are having a good march thus far.
i have a couple questions/comments that actually involve some content (!).
first things first: while mummy's away, lets have a party! we can rip 
the place up real good. okay, that was a joke. nobody take it 
seriously.
second things second: last december someone posted about programming 
B&S tunes into their mobile phone (it was chris leak, and i already 
wrote him asking if he found anything out), and i recently (= last 
night) got a little program for my palm pilot that lets me put in my 
own alarms. so, basically, i'd like the piano bit from the beginning 
of "seeing other people" to play every time i have to take my birth 
control pills. i think it's funny. but here's the problem, kids, i 
have no idea what the actual notes are for that little bit of piano 
music, and since i'm cripplingly tone deaf, i can't figure it out for 
myself. so, have any of you figured out piano music for this song? or 
any songs, for that matter? if so, send 'em along, because i think 
it'd be nice if you did. and that should be reason enough. if you 
need more motivation, i'll give you a smooch, too.
so my sleep schedule has been totally fuzzocked for the past week or 
so, and last thursday night/friday morning i stayed up all night 
because i wasn't couldn't. and in a stage of delerium and 
caffeine-induced stupor i got a song from my old summer camp stuck in 
my head. don't worry, i won't burden you people with it. but i will 
note that i wrote a letter to McSweeney's (http://www.mcsweeneys.net) 
with the lyrics to said summer camp song and they actually printed 
it. so now i'm famous. sort of. my sister wrote me this morning and 
proclaimed "mcsweeney's put your letter up!!!" and that made me 
happy. then i drove to new hampshire and bought cheap cigarettes. and 
that made me happy. and now i'm downloading an episode of the 
simpsons to watch. but you people don't care what i did today, so 
i'll stop talking about it.
and, while i'm here, i suppose i should complain about not having a 
single vote for list crush.
so that was the complaining. i don't want to burden you with more than that.
hope you have a loverly week.

the days are indeed getting longer,
-kerry

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From simon.aurell at xxx.se  Wed Mar  8 00:15:05 2000
From: simon.aurell at xxx.se (Simon Aurell)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 01:15:05 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Village site goes public - hurry hurry
Message-ID: <001901bf8893$7ac40520$256b97d4@brouhaha>

The list is still incomplete and the e-mail addresses are wrong, but since the rest of the site has been done for a couple of days now I thought you could as well look at it, just don't whine about the addresses, we know they're wrong.

Here's the address:
http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-63235/sinister
I'm not really sure how it will look in old browsers and netscape, but it should be functional anyhow.

Remember, contributions to sinister_village at hotmail.com
If anything looks strange, report immediately to simon.aurell at swipnet.se.

cheerio,
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From colin.mowat at xxx.net  Wed Mar  8 00:14:24 2000
From: colin.mowat at xxx.net (Colin Mowat)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 00:14:24 -0000
Subject: Sinister: "At least they know what they're doing"
Message-ID: <00bf01bf8893$58550480$34cc2cc3@default>

Tuesday 7 March 2000
23:50


So in "Seeing Other People" you get the lines....

"Or your gonna have to go with girls
You might be better off
At least they know what they're doing".....

.......so is this true?

my experience, limited as it has been, to several rather special girls over
the last twenty years has not borne out that they knew what they were doing
any better than I did............or have I just been missing out?

So "At least they know what they are doing"........who dares reply ?

sweet dreams.......(or fantasies)

Colin

What I'm listening to right now:
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From apytmw at xxx.uk  Wed Mar  8 00:34:22 2000
From: apytmw at xxx.uk (Mark)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 00:34:22 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Just listen to what I keep silent
Message-ID: <E12SUR1-00053E-00@nottingham.ac.uk>

Hi Y'all,

Do you ever get the feeling you've been abused?  In fact, its 
probably easier to count the ways in which you haven't been taken 
advantage of.  Contrary to popular belief, self-worth is totally related 
to the way people see you - you're a social object.

The plan tonight was to pretend that I didn't exist - this reduced my 
status from an object to nothing - observable only on the inside.  
This is the only reason I'm sharing this - because if it was 
important in any way, I wouldn't.

I haven't even dreamt of Johnny Dean recently - Menswear dreams 
involving class A drugs and raunchy sex always have a huge effect 
on my world outlook, usually involving hair dye and a shopping 
spree.  

Oh well, maybe I'll fall in love with all of you before we all bleed to 
death.

Love and hugs,

mark xxx
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From ynoh at xxx.edu  Wed Mar  8 01:13:41 2000
From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 20:13:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: "At least they know what they're doing"
In-Reply-To: <00bf01bf8893$58550480$34cc2cc3@default>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.04.10003071950001.16643-100000@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu>

Dear Sinister,

> my experience, limited as it has been, to several rather special girls over
> the last twenty years has not borne out that they knew what they were doing
> any better than I did............or have I just been missing out?
> 
> So "At least they know what they are doing"........who dares reply ?

How do the ones who know what they are doing know that they know what they
are doing, unless what it is to know what you are doing is common
knowledge, in which case the question is pointless?

Ah, you could say it's the reaction you get that's confirmation in and of
itself.  But how do you know what reactions are possible other than those
you have elicited?

There's a B & S point to this besides me asking stupid questions.  Is the
issue of Select they're in the one with Ian Brown on the cover - the March
issue?  I didn't see them in it.  Could someone point out where to look?

Thank you kindly,
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From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk  Wed Mar  8 01:44:15 2000
From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 01:44:15 BST
Subject: Sinister: this is fiona, she likes godspeed you black emperor
Message-ID: <292574C1719@mail1.mcc.ac.uk>

  thats how someone i know introduced me to her boyfriend, i can't 
decide if its flattering of worrying that that should be what she 
remembered most about me.   hmmm. won't think about that too much.

*thundercats are on the move thundercats are loose*

 i'm  very aware at the moment that my life seems to be passing by 
and i haven't achieved anything. it could be because all my friends 
seem to be turning 20/21 and are feeling old, or it could be because 
i really am wasting my time.

*feel the magic, hear the roar thundercats are loose*

  no really, i'm failing my university course, all i do with my spare 
time is get drunk and fall over. but still, somehow i don't feel too 
upset about it. i know i'm fucking up and i'm letting it happen, it 
really wouldn't be that difficult just to do something, anything, but 
still i persist in doing nothing.

  one of you, somewhere must have been in this situation, everyone i 
know is involved in some sort of activity that gets them out of the 
house at the very least, i've never been one for joining things 
(shyness is nice...) and i keep telling myself, after christmas, no 
next year, when the time is right i'll do something, but that time 
never comes. doesn't look like it ever will.

  don't get me wrong, i'm not despairing, just a little concerned, 
someone must be able to suggest something, or perhaps someone will 
offer to come to my house and force me to join in with some sort of 
worthwhile pass time.

  fuck! don't i have the shittiest, most trivial problems in the 
world... ever.  but its not easy being dull.

  anyone who's in leeds this weekend and wants to hang out with a 
beautiful / miserable young lady is quite welcome to get in touch.

  i think thats enough dear diary for now, particularly as i keep 
typing 'r' instead of 't'.

  oh except to say - go and see the house on haunted hill, its the 
worst film i've ever seen - fantastic!! someone's been watching too 
many marilyn manson and aphex twin videos.


      love and jaffa cakes,
                                              fiona

"i'm not drunk. i've just had a bit too much to drink"
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From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk  Wed Mar  8 01:47:49 2000
From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 01:47:49 BST
Subject: Sinister: naughties?
Message-ID: <29265826B54@mail1.mcc.ac.uk>

  sorry, i just remembered something i wanted to ask - in the future 
(or indeed now) what will this decade (and the next) be referred to 
as.
  i mean the last decade was the nineties, preceded by the eighties 
etc, so what is this one? best contribution came from my flatmate's 
dad who said the noughties, but is there actually an official term. 
just thought one of you might know.

   love and jaffa cakes,
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From ThisSuffering at xxx.com  Wed Mar  8 01:56:44 2000
From: ThisSuffering at xxx.com (ThisSuffering at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 20:56:44 EST
Subject: Sinister: its time..
Message-ID: <c5.29ffad4.25f70d5c@aol.com>

dear sinister

i havent been writing enough to you.

i used to write so much, i havent been a chipper mood lately. ive even 
neglected my belle and sebbie cds till today. ive been so busy dealing with 
sad stuff.

i just wanted to let you kids know that i enjoy your writings every time they 
come up.

keep posting.

we read.

love
carlos xoxo
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From chamomile1 at xxx.com  Wed Mar  8 08:47:25 2000
From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila)
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 00:47:25 PST
Subject: Sinister: Rocco is god
Message-ID: <20000308084725.71162.qmail@hotmail.com>

"Can I get a whooh whooh?"
"Sorry, we're out of them."
"Bugger. Well, a pack of Marlboro Lights, then."

Hello. Long time no post nothing to say. But this morning Fiona said 
something about failing classes at the university because of drinking and 
partying too much. And, you know, I was like "WHAT? You have to study at the 
uni?" I thought it was all booze and one night stands with your schoolmates, 
then not saying hello to them the next morning because you're too embarrased 
and you don't know if you sucked their toes last night while she/he was 
sleeping.

Well I did. I had no idea you had to study in there too. But a bit more 
seriously, ALL my friends who are at the uni have the same problem as Fiona 
does.

What else? Nothing much. Bought the new Oasis album, which is fucking crap. 
Bought Pet Sounds by the Beach Boys, which is awesome. Bought Apulanta 
(Finnish punkrock-institute type of a band), which punks and rocks rather 
nicely. Bought ice-cream yesterday, which was shitexpensive. Got blasted 
monday night. Scratched my tummy last night. Heard Kelis again last monday 
and liked it. Sneezed at the tube this morning and got these nice yellow and 
green bits of spit all over my hand, then I wiped it on my jeans.

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From idleberry at xxx.com  Wed Mar  8 11:20:40 2000
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 03:20:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: ghosts and the paranormal chair mystery. 
Message-ID: <20000308112040.29869.qmail@web602.mail.yahoo.com>

well, you knew there would be a message from me sooner
or later.

Last weeks Scottish evening seshion thing. Well, I was
right. My mum  did forget. Until I phoned her to
remind her, after I woke up from a dream I was having
about her forgetting things again. So she muddled
around while I sat on the phone chatting to my dad. 
So I lost about 1/2 and hour of the bloody thing. 

I knew it would happen!!! grr!

Kinky Angel mentioned her flat is haunted... spooky!
The house I was living in last year was haunted, and
there was a little girl who lived there who kept on
seeing the ghost. It later transpired that the area
used to be where they hung people.  And I kept feeling
spooked out too.

Thats prolly just cos I'm paranoid though.

Whats an even bigger mystery to me, other than creepy
ghosts, is how people in this university manage to
wreck the twirly chairs! I mean, the back on this one
is more like a gynacologists, and some of them are
just hacked up so high, that I could bash my knees off
the monitor!!!

Oh well, back to doing what I do.


bye!
idleberry


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From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk  Wed Mar  8 12:07:56 2000
From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:07:56 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Fold your hands child, you walk like a peasant
Message-ID: <8025689C.00430B4D.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk>





>I fought in a war
>The model
>Beyond the sunrise
>Waiting for the moon to rise
>Don't leave the light on baby

>The wrong girl
>The chalet lines
>Nice day for a sulk
>Women's Realm
>Family Tree
>There's too much love


Fantastic!

No 'Marx and Engels' and no 'Legal Man', then.  No cover of 'Cracklin Rosie'
either.

Let's play 'who does what song'.  We already know that 'The Model' is Stuart's
(no more need for mmm's - sorry ghd).  I'm pretty sure 'I fought in a war' is
too.  'The Wrong Girl' and 'Beyond the Sunrise' are Stevie's, and 'Family Tree'
is Isobel's.

So, that leaves us with six to place.

'Women's Realm' - that's got Stuart written all over it.  I'm probably wrong.

'The Chalet Lines' -  Stuart tells the world about how Isobel's coke habit
spoiled things at Bowlie.

'Don't leave the light on baby' - Stevie goes bananas in an 'It Takes Two Baby'
romp with Isobel.

'Waiting for the moon to rise' - hmm... tricky.  One of the other band members'
debut efforts I reckon.  I go for Sarah - it sounds a bit goth.

'Nice day for a sulk' - it *can't* be Isobel's two-fingered riposte to her
detractors.  Can it?

'There's too much love' - Mick romances the laydeeez.


What about that title, eh?  At first I thought 'Oh, fair enough - some
deportment dictate remembered from childhood'.  But then I thought, hang on -
what on earth was Mrs Murdoch on about?  Not folding your arms when you walk
doesn't make you look like a peasant at all. Oh, hang on - it's 'hands', not
'arms'.  Well now I'm completely baffled.  What does folding your hands involve?
Is that when you put them together and like cup them in each other?  Hmm.. I'm
trying to picture walking like that...  Well I suppose it might look quite posh.
Like a bishop or Prince Charles.  But you'd be in danger of looking like you
needed to go wee-wee.

> P.S. FYHCYWLAP?

FUSSYWALLOP?

                         Nick xx



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From: charthur at xxx.com (Arthur Charpentier)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:32:10 +0800
Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe sinister
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From paularathoon at xxx.com  Wed Mar  8 13:33:18 2000
From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon)
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 13:33:18 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Fold you hands chiild You won't be getting the album until june 5th
Message-ID: <20000308133318.85548.qmail@hotmail.com>

well, at least we know what the cover looks like and release date (see 
jeepster website for all the details). It will be a welcome interruption to 
my University finals when it finally does arrive though sods law dictates 
that I will probably have an exam the day it comes out and the day after so 
will be too preoccupied to listen to it properly.
The cover looks really nice. I guess I am a sucker for those things.
This summer will be the summer that the folded hand peasant kids finally 
come of age. or something.
And no Loneliness of A middle diistance runner. My money is on that being 
one of the tracks on a pre-album single with possibly Marx and Engels.
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From buron at xxx.com  Wed Mar  8 13:43:04 2000
From: buron at xxx.com (St=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?=phane Buron)
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 14:43:04 +0100
Subject: Sinister: There's NEVER too much love
Message-ID: <200003081342.OAA25131@front7m.grolier.fr>

Hi list ! 

Too shy to post with all theses newcomers... hopefully, i'll have a place at
the Sinister village soon... even if i still dont know what i'm good at...

Have you noticed the new update on the B&S site ? If you haven't, here it
is:

>>> The new album has been mastered, and the artwork is in. We await the first
pressings.
Anyway, it's called "Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant", and
the tracklisting is as follows:

1- I Fought In A War
2- The Model
3- Beyond The Sunrise
4- Waiting For The Moon To Rise
5- Don't Leave The Light On Baby

6- The Wrong Girl
7- The Chalet Lines
8- Nice Day For A Sulk
9- Women's Realm
10- Family Tree
11- There's Too Much Love

Please note that a release date has not yet been set, but it's looking like
the end of June. <<<

Oh, I've just read Honey's post with the same news (almost)... Sorry folks.
What about the Loneliness of a Long Distance Runner?
Do you think the Chalet Lines is about Camber sands?

I have to go now...

Stephane
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From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com  Wed Mar  8 14:45:21 2000
From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 06:45:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: AUCTION OF SIGNED GOODIES
Message-ID: <20000308144521.25907.qmail@web1402.mail.yahoo.com>

okay. I'l try not upset any one this time....


AUCTION DETAILS.

the action is now GO!!!
I'm just doing the signed albums just now. I'll do the
poster next week.
it's all being done on ebay UK
here are the item numbers
TIGERMILK - 278744492
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.DLL?ViewItem&Item=278744492

IF YOU'RE FEELING SINISTER - 278746741


TBWTAS - 278749158

sustitute th codes for adresses. they are under the
records - indie/brit pop. I think u can go straight to
search for a code though... if It doesn't work, mail
me back.
you need to register (I think). to do this, you have
to have a proper email address - not a yahoo, hotmail,
ect. one. non web based.

If anyone doesnt have an adress as stated, then just
mail your bids to me. I'll sort it out.



Adenosine
Tri
Phosphate

If you're Fehling sinister.

oh. aberdeen is really grey. real crappy. I woz there
yesterday for a med inbterview. it was SHITE.

WHY AM i the villiage gardener? that is pure crap.
oh. people - STOP SAYING "GRATE". it is truly doing my
nut in.


bye. chris


my grammar was bad in this letter. sorry. it is rushed.
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From m.waggner at xxx.net  Wed Mar  8 15:16:01 2000
From: m.waggner at xxx.net (Michele Waggner)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:16:01 -0500
Subject: Sinister: FYHCYWLAP "Rumors"
Message-ID: <002001bf8911$381df540$b6aa4f0c@amstech>

Well, "props" to Jarkko for noticing that Honey posted the new album info
yesterday after talking to Stuart and Chiara.  Were you all sleeping??
After all, this IS a B&S list.  Wasn't Stuart a sweet boy to let us know?
Even tho' we don't hear from his mum anymore, she did raise him well, didn't
she?

Further "speculations:"

Those fearing the dreaded SITAR can rest easy, on the album at least,
apparently that one didn't make the final cut.  Single??  Too bad, I like a
hippie twist to my twee.  (I hear you back there Hopkins, you juvenile
delinquent).  There is 1 Stevie song... 1 Sarah song, 1 Isobel song, 1
collaboration.  The rest are Stu M songs, for all you lovesick muffins.
Apparently it's a "bigger" sound, and P!O!P!.  Specter-esque.  Wall of B&S.

FYHCYWLAP?  Sounds Welsh.  What can we make out of that?  Fickylap?

Very exciting!!!  Hooray, YAY!!!   June 5th in the UK, 6th in the US.  We
can look forward to Spring AND the cd!!  Picnics around the world!!!
Prepare to shed those duffle coats and pack up the biscuits kids.  We rule
the school.

Pay attention:
Wouldn't it be nice if West Coast US Sinisterines were the lucky ones this
time out?  It's their turn, isn't it?  Some think so.  Better hope
California doesn't slide into the ocean in mid-June, children.

Now I must be off to prepare NY for the arrival of THE LIST MUMMY AND
LINDA!!!!!!! and MISS STARRYFEATHERS!!!!!  And MR. ENFORCER DAMON!!!   It's
quite hard to put up all those 900 # stickers in telephone booths you know.











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From splag at xxx.net  Wed Mar  8 16:43:03 2000
From: splag at xxx.net (Scott Plagenhoef)
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:43:03 -0600
Subject: Sinister: Trainspotters, start your engines
Message-ID: <200003081642.QAA20292@missprint.org>

Hmm, 

so let's face it: It's not the best title, is it? Anyone spot a reference?

The cover art is nice though, nice color -- reminds me of an old Smiths 12´´
and the girl in the photo looks like she could be straight off of an Arab
Strap album cover -- and straight out of an Arab Strap song. Any guesses on
what book the girl (girls?) are holding, or whether or not the cover is two
photos of the same person or they are twins? It's not a reflection -- it's
sort of like of those "spot the differences" photos in the Sunday newspapers
or Kids' mags. Can we assume the cosmopolitan Sarah Martin is the
photographer?

>From where I sit, there is a bit of confusion about "Beyond the Sunrise" as
well.

Michelle wrote:


Those fearing the dreaded SITAR can rest easy, on the album at least,
apparently that one didn't make the final cut.

AND

There is 1 Stevie song...

If memory serves right (and mind that I am casting it back upon circulated
rumors and press reports in things such as "Select" and whatnot) "Beyond the
Sunrise" is a Stevie song (so is "The Wrong Girl" of course) and was the
so-called party raveup that may have been laced with the Harrisonesque
sounds of the sitar. Hmm. Nick Dastoor seemed to agree -- about the
songwriting credit at least. Anyone have any info? If "Beyond..." was taped
for "The Tube," surely there shouldn't be confusion about its source.


scott. 

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From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk  Wed Mar  8 16:42:39 2000
From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:42:39 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Sometimes Luck Smiles on You
Message-ID: <E12SjYW-0005tF-00@nottingham.ac.uk>

What a top day!

	Finally we know the name of the new album. The most 
striking thing about it, I think, is its notable omissions. The 
Loneliness..., Lord Anthony, Paper Boat, Landslide etc. It sounds 
like we're due for a very good e.p. , or two. The cover is ace too, and 
it is YELLOW and looking at the jeepster site there are going to be 
sleevenotes too which is GRATE! The first person to work out what 
book the girls are holding gets a gold star. By the way, does anyone 
know what book Lazy Line Painter Jane has, on her e.p.? It looks 
like a textbook or something.
	I met a chap today, at a Socialist Worker talk about Austria, 
who was Austrian. He was very nice and we walked off for a cup of 
tea and talked for a while about how Socialist Workers are too 
extremist and counter-productive and stuff like that. We were talking 
about how being reasonable is much better and I mentioned Belle 
and Sebastian and Stuart M and, bizarrely he'd heard of them and 
was a big fan. So I'm quite chuffed about this and about my new 
Austrian friend in general because he was very nice and when the 
weather gets better he's going to come to a picnic with us. ACE!
	Then we said goodbye and walked off up different staircases, 
but ended up meeting at the top, which was rather embarassing.

FYHCYWLAP = Floppyflaps?

	Robinx
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From smiley at xxx.uk  Tue Mar  7 21:39:05 2000
From: smiley at xxx.uk (Mr Smiley)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:39:05 -0000
Subject: Sinister: A cynical sigh and a non commital shrug...
Message-ID: <000001bf8929$1e97ea00$e44f883e@n8j4k7>

... heralds the return of Mr Smiley.

Mr Who?

    No, Mr Smiley. I lost my voice when I change accounts, and rather than
bother Honey I decided to spend two weeks playing in the sand pit. Actually,
I might just keep unsubbing and subbing again, so I'm perpetually in the
nursery. You see time moves slower in the nursery, so I'll have more time to
revise for my exams. Perhaps. But more likely not.
    Maybe I could use this rebirth as an attempt to actually write something
interesting and get people to talk to me. No, looking back over this post I
can see this is probably a lost cause.
    OK I give up. I have to ask. Someone else asked but no-one answered to
the list. All searches to the archives have yielded only very cryptic clues,
without giving me anything concrete to chew on (not that you'll ever see me
sinking my teeth into a wall), so... what the hell IS the tape tree? I
presume it's where people grow sellotape  in a greenhouse or something. Or
more likely it's where people make tapes for each other. But where on Earth
is it?
    Answers in machine code to:
smiley at rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk

God be with you
Mr Smiley

PS. Honey said:
>Anything that's witty, wise or wicked will probably be ok

Which led me to conclude that anything beginning with 'w' is OK. So I sent
this post, which is wan- #Transmission failed#



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From zutroy at xxx.org  Wed Mar  8 18:16:21 2000
From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:16:21 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Sometimes Luck Smiles on You
In-Reply-To: <E12SjYW-0005tF-00@nottingham.ac.uk>
References: <E12SjYW-0005tF-00@nottingham.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <v04210100b4ec46b5eaf1@[206.153.194.11]>

i was just going to send this off to robin herself, but decided that 
it might actually be of interest to the rest of the list, too. (yes, 
all 1200+ of you)

Robin Stout wondered:
> By the way, does anyone
>know what book Lazy Line Painter Jane has, on her e.p.? It looks
>like a textbook or something.

well, i'd never bothered to look before, but it appears to be 
something like "reason and reality" by john polkinghorne. if i had 
the 12" it would probably be easier to see.
i found a book in my school's library catalogue called "reason and 
reality," and i found an author named john polkinghorne, but not the 
two together. maybe if i get bored enough i'll go dig around the 
library and see if it looks the same.
all the john polkinghorne books are physics books, and the listing 
for "reason and reality" lists it as a philosophy book. hm.
as for FYHC YWLAP, i can't discern the book she/they are reading, but 
doesn't the evil girl look like fairuza balk of "the craft" fame? 
well, i think she does. maybe it's just the eye makeup.


and on a totally unrelated note, has anybody else noticed the feature 
on the sinister website that says "greetings to ____, our newest list 
member" or something to that effect? has this been around for ages 
without me knowing? it's tempting me to leave the list then rejoin 
just to see my name there. um.

-kerry


"well it comes with the hurt and the guilt and the memories. if i had 
to take them with me i would never get from my bed . . . (do you 
really think you keep it all that well hid?) no, but i travel light."
	                                -tindersticks, "travelling light"
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From feather-boa at xxx.com  Wed Mar  8 20:00:39 2000
From: feather-boa at xxx.com (feather boa)
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 12:00:39 -0800
Subject: Sinister: london listees only
Message-ID: <HPIFFEKKJPHADAAA@shared3.whowhere.com>

um, i just wanted to say that the coolest museum in london is closing on sunday, and that you should see it before it does.  the caberet mechanical theatre in covent garden market has been there for ages, and it's full of buttons you can push and things that move, and when you've paid entrance you don't have to pay anymore - like a slot machine or anything.  i might go on saturday.

pip pip,

FB

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From kittenmouse at xxx.com  Wed Mar  8 20:08:12 2000
From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (kittenmouse radio)
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 12:08:12 -0800
Subject: Sinister: fold yr hands + att: Kerry, re: palm alarm
In-Reply-To: <200003081513.PAA16833@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <B4EBF32C.225%kittenmouse@hotmail.com>

hello
today is a super day for 2 reasons.  i got a new job (yay) at the radio
station.  i guess that means i am assistant manager now.  also, even better,
i got the jeepster news email, and i'm sure it is obvious what i'm excited
about.  YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY!  (scream)  New Belle and Sebastian (in a
couple months anyway)!!!  Well, to me, that is still exciting.  Now, to all
american sinisters--we must convince them to come to the US and tour, eh?
Don't know how we'd do that.  But we have to do it (and convince them to
come to places other than just ny, chicago and etc).

Also, to KERRY:
I HAD to respond to yr post...it  made me laugh and stuff, what with the
strange parallels between many of the things you wrote and how my life
works.  it was funny.  what sort of palm pilot do you have?  aren't they
super?  i have the IIIe with a clear case, so it looks just like a funny
shaped ice cube.  that is a great idea about the alarm thing, and i might
just try to figure that out tonight on my keyboard and write it up or
something..i'm good at figuring stuff like that out, what with years of
piano training and whatnot.  on another note, i was watching a band that
came to my school to play in the food area a couple weeks ago.  they were
called Wasabi (and were pretty ok) and they had a Rhodes (which sounded
beautiful, btw).  They started playing this song, and the piano part sounded
just like the intro to Seeing Other People.  i thought they were going to
cover it, but it turned out they didn't.  it was just kind of, um,
influenced, perhaps, by the song.

ok. anyway, gotta go to work now (at the library).  see you all later.

sincerely,
andrea (kittenmouse)

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From komis at xxx.edu  Wed Mar  8 20:38:42 2000
From: komis at xxx.edu (Dmitry Komis)
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 14:38:42 -0600
Subject: Sinister: how to make a looper...
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000308143842.0080b2e0@students.uiuc.edu>

hi kids, 

i went and saw looper (w/the flaming lips) last nite. they played a
glorious set including 4 new songs--'on the flipside' is probably my fav of
the bunch. stuart was very talkative, and he hugged karn during one of the
songs. sweet.  
after the show i saw him sitting at the bar with the rest of the band and i
asked to shake his hand since i was very nervous and i couldnt think of
anything else to say. so i did. and it was lovely. hes a kind man. thats
all. back to the nursery for me. 

dmitry

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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com  Wed Mar  8 20:46:48 2000
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:46:48 -0500
Subject: Sinister: New Album Japes
Message-ID: <200003081547_MC2-9C54-773F@compuserve.com>

Howdy Pilgrims,

Questions, questions........
Where does that title come from? Is it a quotation? If so, are we talking
19th century Russian novel or something?

What happens to Paper Boat & Winter Wooskie? Can't see them as Looper
releases - do they never get to see the (official) light of day?

& Lord Anthony - does that mean we get it on an ep?


I see the band's & the label's sites are having the Devil of a job in
agreeing on running order and release date :)


Acronym time again: Michele is right about that silent 'w' (as in Wrong
Love), she's just a bit wonky on the first vowel. You know when you get
yourself all clean & spruced up for work, and then return to the bedroom to
dress, and your partner looks all sleepy & gorgeous, so you slip in beside
them, & when you slide out a while later, you're SO late for work, that you
have to dash off in a hurry, and maybe not as much time for personal
hygiene as you should....................
And so you spend all day being


The Boy With The Fucky Lap
Chelmsford, UK

Where the hell is that Sir Cliff when you *really* need him, anyway?
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From m.waggner at xxx.net  Wed Mar  8 21:07:24 2000
From: m.waggner at xxx.net (Michele Waggner)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:07:24 -0500
Subject: Fw: Sinister: fold yr hands + 
Message-ID: <002f01bf8942$4fa31d40$99aa4f0c@amstech>


Kittenmouse said:


>hello
Now, to all
>american sinisters--we must convince them to come to the US and tour, eh?
>Don't know how we'd do that.  But we have to do it (and convince them to
>come to places other than just ny, chicago and etc).


Lies and rumors suggest those in California might keep a sharp eye out
towards the middle of June.
>


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From simon.aurell at xxx.se  Wed Mar  8 22:34:05 2000
From: simon.aurell at xxx.se (Simon Aurell)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 23:34:05 +0100
Subject: Sinister: new url: move.to/sinistervillage
Message-ID: <003e01bf894e$88f9f440$562297d4@brouhaha>

and apparently the page looks weird with a macintosh.. could anyone help? is there maybe a program that simulates the look on different platforms?

Simon

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From jasonandreas at xxx.net  Wed Mar  8 23:46:28 2000
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 23:46:28 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Glasgow Meetup, final details...
Message-ID: <008701bf8958$87152320$57093c3e@default>

Okay people, here's the final details for the new Glasgow Meetup....

Saturday, May 6th, 11:30 am, underneath the largest column in George Square.

Everyone who comes is to bring a packed lunch of some kind for themselves
and whoever comes with them.

I want as many people to turn up as possible.

Please be punctual - it's only polite.

If it's raining, the meetup place and time are the same, but we shall figure
somewhere else to go.

See you there.

--Jason Andreas

Silent whispers in my head,
Never heard but always said.

ICQ: 45821217

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From katfood at xxx.com  Thu Mar  9 03:30:23 2000
From: katfood at xxx.com (kathrine browne)
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 21:30:23 -0600
Subject: Sinister: high fidelity
Message-ID: <200003090332.VAA23035@zoom1.telepath.com>

hello.....

i know in past months many of you have mentioned the book High Fidelity by
Nick Hornby. well.....a friend of mine was at the movies the other day and
saw a preview for a movie High Fidelity starring John Cusack(sp?) as our
beloved record store owner Rob. i thought this was weird.....I cant imagine
him playing that part. She said the movie looked as though it would be very
good......i dont know what to think.

kathrine

p.s. sorry this has no B&S content and sorry if this has already been
discussed...
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From SlowRobot at xxx.com  Thu Mar  9 05:14:54 2000
From: SlowRobot at xxx.com (blair hicks)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:14:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: sword of omen, give me sight beyond sight
Message-ID: <8231370.952578896699.JavaMail.imail@sammy>

oh list,

    riding a wave of uncharacteristic optimism, i've decided to post, so
read on and revel in my good karma. it'll be good for you lot, especially
those of you in damp, rainy climates, who are no doubt often somber and
morose.
    i slept through classes this morning - not only my 8am lab, but a 10
o'clock western civ lecture, for which i will likely be reemed a new one by
the almighty.
    isn't it nice to see a new wave of b&s content? on that note, i'd just
like to say that the UK release date for the new record is my parent's
wedding anniversary, which is also my paternal grandmother's birthday. all
you astrologists keep your eyes on the heavens - no good will come of this.
    james taylor was inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame this week,
which is lovely, and you don't think so, go soak your head. he's king.
    oh - as a b&s related afterthought, i've seen the new EP set priced
differently all over. my favorite record store here in austin, the
world-renowned 33 degrees records, has it priced at $15.99. have any of you
state-side listees seen it priced lower at one of the big chains, like
tower, best buy, or borders? i so very much want capitalism to work its
merry speel on me, but i need an inside opinion first.
    speaking of my fellow americans, are any of you catching the SXSW
festival this year? i'm defenitely seeing beulah, japancakes (the entire
kindercore show, for that matter), macca, and the apples in stereo. elliot
and sebadoh will be crouded and un-fun, but the other shows should be GRATE.
is anybody heading down austin way? let me know - free meals seem to abound
in my company.
    well, it's been lovely, but i have to run. stay healthy, sinister. i'm
sure some sort of satanic allergy season will be striking your corner of the
globe sometime soon. prrof once more of a cruel, unforgiving god.

fondly,
blair

p.s. - to vel, for complementing my sinister comic book store - you are
going straight to heaven. you and james taylor.
    





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From MBP99KLC at xxx.uk  Thu Mar  9 10:37:29 2000
From: MBP99KLC at xxx.uk (Katy)
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 11:37:29 +0100
Subject: Sinister: An intelligence test
Message-ID: <v01540b02b4ed2e48564e@[143.167.67.55]>


I know we're not supposed to send forwarded email jokes to the list, and
for good reason as most of them are crap, but this is quite funny. Plus
Honey is away and can't shout.


>> The following short quiz consists of 4 questions and tells whether you are
>> qualified to be a professional.
>> Scroll down for the answer. The questions are not that difficult.
>>
>> Q 1.  How do you put a giraffe into a refrigerator?
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>> The correct answer is:
>> Open the refrigerator, put in the giraffe and close the door.
>> This question tests whether you tend to do simple things in an overly
>> complicated way.
>>
>> Q 2.  How do you put an elephant into a refrigerator ?
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>> Wrong Answer :
>> Open the refrigerator, put in the elephant and close the refrigerator.
>>
>> Correct Answer : Open the refrigerator, take out the giraffe, put in the
>> elephant and close the door.
>> This tests your ability to think through the repercussions of your
>> actions.
>>
>> Q 3. The Lion King is hosting an animal conference; all the animals
>> attend except one.
>> Which animal does not attend?
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>> Correct Answer :
>> The Elephant.
>> The Elephant is in the refrigerator.
>> This tests your memory.
>>
>> OK, even if you did not answer the first three questions, correctly, you
>> still have one more chance to show your abilities.
>>
>> Q 4. There is a river you must cross. But it is inhabited by crocodiles.
>> How do you manage it?
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>> Correct Answer:
>> You swim across.
>> All the Crocodiles are attending the Animal Meeting!
>> This tests whether you learn quickly from your mistakes.
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>>
>> According to Andersen Consulting Worldwide, around 90% of the
>> Professionals  they tested got  all questions wrong. But many
>> pre-schoolers got several correct answers.
>> Anderson Consulting says this conclusively disproves the theory that most
>> professionals have the brains of a four year old.



katy
x


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From starpiekat at xxx.uk  Thu Mar  9 13:02:58 2000
From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=)
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 13:02:58 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Books I Forget
Message-ID: <20000309130258.10364.qmail@web1701.mail.yahoo.com>

I'm going to be in New York City tomorrow!

Hopefully eating eggplant. Aren't those Murikans just mad? Aubergines are not
plants which are shaped like eggs. However, they are Gines which are Auber.
Stupid stupid Yanks. Who drive on a parkway and park on a driveway. It makes no
sense!! But still, I can't wait to be there. Honey and Linda are following me
there you know. I'm a bit freaked out, are they stalking me? Well who wouldn't,
I am BLUDDY GRATE.

Up yours, Babychris! Start your own NEW and GRATE saying, if that pisses you
off so much. Go on. I dare you. I bet it won't be GRATE though. I bet it will
be PANTS. 

Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant! I know why you'd fold your
hands. Its cos if you didn't, you have them swinging by your sides, like one of
those working class lumpen proletariat plebs, innit? So if you fold them, you
look demure and restrained while you walk. Do you lot know nothing about poise?
It sounds like something my stepmother would say. But instead of "peasant", she
would say "raving lesbo ho'". 

She wouldn't, really, its ok. 

No "Marx & Engels"????? Belle! Sebastian! You promised (or hinted) at the
REVOLUTION and yet again one more time you have let me down! Even though I'm
ever so happy that "Wrong Girl" is on. Is it written about Camille Pagilla? Or
Vanessa Feltz? Anyway, I supose Marx & Engels are ever so passé. Like, who
hasn't read the Communist Mannifesto, it adorns coffee tables all over
Clerkenwell these days. Even Shoreditch twats can quote Marx. I'd be more
impressed if they'd memorised "The Social Contract" by my favourite new
Frenchie, Jean Jaques Rousseau. He's dead cool, you know. He's a geezer! He
wrote a wonderful soundbite slagging of philosophers and psueds of the
Englightenment, but buggered be me if I know what it went like now.

In New York, I will see Magnetic Fields. And my dearest husband Dr Damon, and
my beautiful oldest son Matthew, and the helpful Malay, and lots of other
people do. I'd do a big shout out, but unfortunately I am not Pete Tong, and
thus I know my place. It is not in the realm of "big shout outs to the Hull
Possé".

Whats the US equivalent of Grimsby?

Incidentally, I want to go to Coney Island. Isn't that the place with
the...fairgrounds'n'stuff?

Sarah
xoxox

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From vibrosheep at xxx.net  Thu Mar  9 13:02:20 2000
From: vibrosheep at xxx.net (vibrosheep at xxx.net)
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 13:02:20
Subject: Sinister: Sheep Slaying in Woolfardisworthy.
Message-ID: <200003091302.NAA13875@mailhost.vivao.net>

FELCHYPLOP ?

Councillor Evans.
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From jasonandreas at xxx.net  Thu Mar  9 14:29:36 2000
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 14:29:36 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Sheep Slaying in Woolfardisworthy.
References: <200003091302.NAA13875@mailhost.vivao.net>
Message-ID: <001d01bf89d3$e5ff93e0$490b3c3e@default>

It's gotta be Fishyclap...

FYHCYWLAP

--Jason Andreas

Silent whispers in my head,
Never heard but always said.

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> FELCHYPLOP ?
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> Councillor Evans.
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From bkim0 at xxx.edu  Thu Mar  9 17:36:52 2000
From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksAndAJill)
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:36:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: Pulling a reverse Honey 
Message-ID: <200003091736.MAA02292@dept.english.upenn.edu>

(and yes, it is as dirty as it sounds)

Add to the growing list yet *another* American making his way to London in
less than a week.  If anyone can recommend some fun times please e-mail me
privately and let me know...esp. in the way of soul clubs, karaoke with a
fine selection of oldies tunes, inexpensive shows, et cetera.  No
Beefeaters or Jack The Ripper/Sid Vicious tours please!  

Re: Funky Dewlap (that's Welsh btw, or pidgin Welsh).  Is it just me or do
their album titles get longer and longer with each release?  Reminds me of
something Elvis Costello said of Morrissey: "He comes up with the best
song titles in the world, but somewhere along the way he forgets to write
the song" (or something like that).  Of course B&S have probably written
the songs for the album, it's just that we haven't heard them so it seems
that they don't really really exist.  I'm not sure this album title is the
best in the world either but it's new, it's foreign and it's freaky.
Given time who knows.  I may just refer to it as "that 'Peasant' album,"
or _Don't Gimme No Lip Child, You Walk Like A Woman But Talk Like A Man
Oh My Lola_.

If you all must know, my image is now added to the "As We Are Now" gallery
at the very end (so far "Xavier" seems to be the name bringing up the rear
of the alphabet), if this is any factor in your information
dissemination, artificial or otherwise.  I think I have a face that can be
trusted.  Like that kid in _Mask_.

Xavier
np: Spacemen 3 _Recurring_

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From smiley at xxx.uk  Thu Mar  9 18:35:41 2000
From: smiley at xxx.uk (Mr Smiley)
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 18:35:41 -0000
Subject: Sinister: And when we're gone, we're dressed in neon
Message-ID: <000201bf89fb$b341e520$647d883e@n8j4k7>

Hullo,

    My thought for today is:

    If the list archives are continually growing as more and more posts are
added to them, and as the search gets more and more frighteningly
intelligent, surely it will one day be the source of all knowledge? It'll
probably grow too much though, and decide to build a large robot army to
exterminate it's creators before claiming a lofty position as ruler of the
world.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

    It wasn't a very good thought, granted.

    What with all the excitement and debate about the pros and cons of
having
the EP box set on the list previously, I really was salivating in
anticipation of it's arrival. It has, however, dawned on me that I'm
unlikely to get it in Worksop (twinned with Royston Vasey), and probably not
in Sheffield either. So I'll have to leapt into the icy world of online
buying, and wait two f***ing weeks for it to arrive. Tits. I'm getting
increasingly annoyed that my shift key appears to have broken, and grammar
is important.
    I've decided to mark today "Honey's Humourless Computer Day", because
the dear thing doesn't get nearly as much love and praise as it deserves.
    And finally, I know the 'v' word is taboo, but I'd just like to say that
the Sinister Village site is ace, and it will get SO much better, I can tell
(I'm a bit psychic on Thursdays)

God be with you
Mr Smiley




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From nik_ovenden at xxx.com  Thu Mar  9 19:18:24 2000
From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden)
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 11:18:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: DAMN!  no more all tomorrows tickets...
Message-ID: <20000309191824.26696.qmail@web2103.mail.yahoo.com>

Furthermore, my body parts cannot be displayed to you
all!  that's beaurcracy for you...just kidding, don't
put me back in the nursery!!!

Looking forward to the next album - any idea whether
they will release singles off it or will they stick
with the obscure ep releases??

saw ooberman last night...wow.  any other ooberfans on
the list?

Hello agian to vikki, she said that my reference to
pink carrots was a gay slur.  Just want to reassure
everyone that i am not a homophobe...sorry for the
comment...

I guess by now 1200 people will be ignoring my emails,
i'll write when i have something important to say...
Stay cool, EAT PINK CARROTS,
Niko
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From antako at xxx.fi  Thu Mar  9 20:07:17 2000
From: antako at xxx.fi (Antti Koskiranta)
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:07:17 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Sinister: "don't let the paaastels get you down"
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0003092122500.12531-100000@alya.utu.fi>


that's what i heard when listening to the lucksmiths' untidy towns for
the first time.
it's actually "barstools", not pastels. silly me.

hello all ye sinister people!

i haven't posted since november. the reason? well, since december, i've
been at least one week behind you lot, but now we are back on the same
time zone.

(at last.)

things have become GRATE, even BLUDDY GRATE, since i last used my
voice. what can i say to that, except "Grate!"

the village thing is fab, as is the new website. would luverly laura
llew need some help running her bookstore? i could imagine that the
people of sinister are buying piles of books. i actually work in a
bookstore, have been working since november, the biggest in town. (tho
it doesn't mean best, we have loads of worthless shite, as well as the
interesting ones. it's sad to see people buying so many useless
self-help books and bad novels)
so, working full-time means a well deserved break from uni. 

(i could also run the photo shop (sorry, is this the right word?), ie be
the village photographer. or is there one already, i dont remember. i
probably 'ave more experience in photographing than in selling books.
in fact, i'm trying to get into the local "artsy-fartsy" school to study
photography.)



before bidding farewell, i must thank You for introducing new (to me, at
least) and grate music to me. thanks to sinister i've had the courage to
buy records by felt, field mice, go-betweens, salako, hefner, marine
research, lucksmiths et al. and right now i'm listening to kate
rusby: she does not rock, she folks.  ;)
just one example: i bought field mice's where 'd you.. without ever
having heard them before. i now know i can trust Your taste.


and yes, jaffa cakes rule the school. ;)


(no comment on the new album, or its title)


love and snowflakes,

a

(the other finn, waiting impatiently for the april select to reach his
workplace. we still sell the ian brown one)

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From lleweth at xxx.com  Thu Mar  9 21:18:06 2000
From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew)
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 13:18:06 PST
Subject: Sinister: She's Llewething It
Message-ID: <20000309211806.492.qmail@hotmail.com>

Warning: This post contains actual Belle & Sebastian content. Small parts 
are unsuitable for those in the nursery with an oral fixation.

I have been neglecting my once regular visits to the Sinister chat room for 
a couple of weeks now. Two days ago I popped in for a quick hello. My timing 
has never been better and I was graced to be in the cyber presence of Stuart 
Murdoch. I figure it's as close as I'll ever come to him. I'll take what I 
can get. (I also will take what I can't get but somehow that defies all laws 
of logic - like most of my ideas). You all should be quite proud of my self 
control.  I didn't even mention the words 'cabana boy.'

Stuart came in before we before we knew the title of their new CD was so no 
one asked him about the references. However, Honey did inquire about the 
song "The Chalet Lines" to see if it was about the Bowlie. Ciara said that 
it was about a girl who got raped at some place where Stuart worked when he 
was younger. The place started with a B, but I was unfamiliar with the name. 
Thus, I don't remember it.  Sorry.  I figure this information is a scoop 
though and I feel like a cool kid. It's almost as good as if I was Will 
Porter himself.

I was wondering though -- how exactly does a peasant walk? Do they mean 
peasant as in a yeoman or as in the bird? Oh wait, I guess that's a 
pheasant. Oh well. Stu also made a comment about doing something that made 
him look like "the fag of New York."  Sounds like an accomplishment to me! I 
wonder if he meant fag as in being gay or as in a cigarette?

A girl who had quit her job to move across the country to live in a one 
bedroom with 10 guys in the Navy called me adventurous. Ho ho ho. I had to 
stifle my laughter when I heard that. Anyway, I've realized that I have 
stagnated here long enough and the time for a road trip is long past due. My 
brother is getting married in Oakland California on April 7th. At first, I 
was going to skip it because the first Braves game is on April 3rd against 
Colorado. Unfortunately, my brother seems to think family is more important 
that baseball. (I don't know what was distracting that lifeguard when my bro 
snuck in the gene pool). Hence, I'm going cross country (I'm in North 
Carolina now) out to northern California. Then, I'm going to spend two weeks 
in Utah (and wherever I might float to from there) and then back to Cali for 
a couple more days. I'll be getting back to my beloved NC about the first of 
May. It shall be one heck of a trip. So, if anyone is out there in the West 
who wants to entertain me please feel free. Do I mean entertain as in to 
amuse or as in to consider?

Could someone enlighten me on something?  It has come to my knowledge that 
somehow Athens Georgia has become a musical hot spot. It's true! Why, Brad 
from the list saw the guy from Neutral Milk Hotel pedaling around on his 
bike and Sarah from B&S is visiting there next week. What is there in Athens 
that attracts people that I don't know about? The only thing I can think of 
that is there is the University of Georgia. I've had some close friends and 
a brother that went to Georgia Tech (UGA's fierce  rivals). So, everything 
I've heard about Athens is incredibly negative and most likely very false. 
Why is it attracting everyone?

Speaking of Sarah, (well I mentioned her name anyway)  I had another Belle 
and Sebastian dream. This time she was the only one from the band in it. I 
was out at some place and she was there. We were coming up with poems -- a 
haiku to be precise. She created a rather nice one that rhymed "Belle & 
Sebastian" with a rather naughty word. It doesn't actually rhyme in real 
life but it did in my dream. I think I only dreamed of her because someone 
posted a link to the list with pictures of the band while they were in the 
US. Before then, I had never seen any pictures of her. Why do people always 
yammer about Isobel but never mention anything about her?

And why I'm asking questions.. does anyone have any good short stories that 
they could recommend to me?

love and gleek the space monkey

Laura
'meeting all of your laura llew needs since 1977'

"It should not be denied.. that being footloose has always exhilarted us. It 
is associated in our minds with escape from history and opression and law 
and irksome obligations, with absolute freedom, and the has always led 
west." --Wallace Stegner  (He was dead brillant. Unfortunately, now he's 
just dead.)
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From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk  Fri Mar 10 01:18:27 2000
From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:18:27 BST
Subject: Sinister: i know, i know, i'm lazy
Message-ID: <2C1E6E63C82@mail1.mcc.ac.uk>

but its past my bedtime, and i have to do this now, as i'm going home 
for the weekend and i really don't have time to reply to everyone 
individually.

  i just wanted to say thanks to everyone who sent me their sympathy 
/ empathy for my whinging the other day. i'd forgotten how nice 
people are around these parts.
  props out to gareth jenkinson for making me feel insignificant 
(this is actually a good thing)
 also to debs ****, andrew churchman,and andrew_2_lloyd  for seeming 
exactly like me which as far as i'm concerned is also a good thing
 and general props to everyone who offered advice and general 
cheering up.

  in case you were wondering (as if) i am now grinning inanely after 
a pleasing encounter on wednesday night, and i have an appointment 
with my tutor in the morning to sort out my course. life is back on 
track (possibly)

  ooh i feel so naughty for such blatant list abuse, 
but while mummy's away...

  i also asked about the name of the decade in which we are currently 
residing and i received various suggestions:

jason andreas said - 
>The noughties is the official (and very sad) term for this decade....

blair hicks said - 
>i hate to say this, but i think our new decade is actually called "the
>tens". can you believe that? "the tens". oh well.

colin thornton said - 
>The naughts.

padraig finnerty (why don't i have an exciting name like that) 
muttered something about morrissey, but couldn't actually think of 
any thing himself.

  now i'm really confused, can anyone clear this up?

F  Y  H  C  Y  W  L  A  P    
i   o  a   u   e   i   o  n  a
o  u  i    t    l    t    u  g  i
n  r  r          l   h   d  u  n
a                s             i
                                 s
                                 h
                                 e
                                 d 

if you could see what i've done to it you'd understand.
my hair is officially orange - it wasn't meant to be this way.


love and jaffa cakes (from the new, official jaffa cake distributer 
in siniville)

                              fiona

'lager hair' - anyone remember that top 60ft dolls mishearing?
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From vilkas at xxx.com  Fri Mar 10 05:50:00 2000
From: vilkas at xxx.com (Vilkas D'Angelo-Horvath)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:50:00 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Straight Outta Nursery; Please Don't hurt me. Greetings All!
Message-ID: <200003100645.BAA19700@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net>

Hellooooo Sinisterians. This is my official debutante ball post. I¹m new in
these parts. I subscribed and then read a bunch of stuff under the heading
of Sinister. Gee, I hope I¹m prepared enough. Some of this is response to
old news, some is not so newsworthy, some is no content. Anyway, wish me
luck. (dives in with a big splash)

Ok, vibrosheep, what the *#!# is FELCHYPLOP? I know what FYHCYWLAP is but
huh?

And another thing: Could you imagine the sound of B&S with a sitar??!! That
would be tha bomb. (slang term: tha bomb-the best thing that ever could be)

My cassette player has pitch control; I listened to travis on chipmunk
sound.  Can¹t wait to find my IYFS cassette and have chipmunk sound.
Ohmigawd...imagine gentle waves on chipmunk. the sad thing is that I enjoy
chipmunk. 

I know the magic of Jaffa Cakes. They¹re the same thing as I think they¹re
called ³Le Petit LU² in the orange?

No B & S Content on the next paragraph:
 Anyone else going to the Charlatans/Stereophonics or Gomez shows in DC?  I
have no badges so I¹m I guess invisible as a sinister spy. mwa hah hah hah.
P.S. The Promise Ring plays 12 March in Richmond VA. Also Apollo 440 are
coming to Richmond VA as well. Guess where I am? tee hee hee.

I¹d like to see the famous singer, not the sinisterian Moz in the apron. and
nothing else. meeeow. (not that you¹re not a hottie Moz)

The story on Looper is they¹re touring as the support act for the Flaming
Lips. They are playing NYC (Irving Plaza I think). [this might be an
unfounded rumour: And possibly also Carrboro North Carolina. YAY! That¹s way
closer to me personally than NYC. Not that I won¹t go to NY as well.  >: )]

Fiona, 
Your Travis Turn quote like 300 days ago cracked me up; to see that many
turns typed out in a row. Linguistic humour anyone? Or is it just me.  Cos
its real nice when Fran sings it, not funny at all, warm Œn¹ fuzzy.  Oh
yeah, Travis is openng up for Oasis on their US tour. WooHoo! Also good luck
on or take care on what was up with you; I missed something in the posts.  

I¹d like to post a picture of my new superfly yet comfortable shoes on the
clothing section.  Cos they¹re cool.  Maybe my giant Russian fur fake fur
hat. It¹s freakin¹ huge. 

Beware: Old news but...About Stuart David leaving:  I like Looper. (saw them
at black Cat, DC, 99[quick review:  FABulous rockin multimedia
extravaganza]) I like Belle & Sebastian. So if both bands can continue then
good.   I¹d hate to have seen Stu D sticking around and becoming miserable
just for the sake of not leaving,.  And another thing-If Belle & Sebastian
were to not grow and change for the better-wouldn¹t that suck? And another
thing-Stu D¹s(Hmm...I wonder if he¹s related to Mike D >:))voice-love it.
Beautiful, soothing, lilting...all that stuff. 

Kevin Allsworth, 
Wee Karn isn¹t that wee in my opinion. Maybe that¹s just stage presence
though.

I always thought Stu M. was singing
 ³...go with girls, at least you¹ll know where to put it...²

And another thing: I assume that the Select April issue doesn¹t come out in
the US until April. Who¹s down with this knowledge?

Not B&S but.......me and my friend were dining in the local Taco Bell (no
comment); they played Texas over the piped in music. WOOHOO! Then they
played Sammy Hagar. What???!!!  Not fair. 

 I¹m trying to go back to Glasgow this summer.  Whwn I was there last; one
of the thing that ended up in my suitcase was an
official-curvy-thing-near-the-top pint glass from  Nice ŒN¹ Sleazy¹s. (B&S
content: did you read that thingy I think on the B&S not Jeepster page where
it was 2 of the guys were playing scrabble in this establishment) There¹s a
story behind the glass.  The highlights are the young man with freckles,
brown eyes, red hair(yummm);  dancing at the art school ÂŒtil way late a.m.;
and finding the glass where we left it on a cement fencepost a block down
from the art school on Renfrew St. Think what you want. Nothing more
happened. The young man had to be at work at the phone company at 8 a.m. 
and I had to be in class at 9 a.m. And I had been in Scotland less than 24
hours at that point. Jet-Lag is yucky.  Please keep in mind that however
much I wish I was or have ever been; I am not a jet setter.
Hmmm............I¹ve been around the world, and eye eye eye , I can¹t find
my baby...

And another thing: 
³B&S² on the spell checker comes up suggested that you change it to ³BUS².
Coincedence? Or diabolical microserf plot? You decide. 

I¹m not responsible for this following pages; yet I wish I was:
http://www.milkyelephant.com/mumbleboy/milkymumble.html
http://www.superbad.com/
I don't know whether these will come up as hyperlinks, but they are worth
cutting and pasting. 

XXOO, Vilkas, the village benevolent dictator 
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From Grrrtrude at xxx.com  Fri Mar 10 06:59:14 2000
From: Grrrtrude at xxx.com (Grrrtrude at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:59:14 EST
Subject: Sinister: black sessions
Message-ID: <aa.24e4fef.25f9f742@aol.com>

hello, all (stepping out of lurker mode).

would someone be so kind as to privately mail me a setlist of the black 
sessions?

thanks in advance.  :)
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From jordiet at xxx.com  Fri Mar 10 11:21:43 2000
From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano)
Date: 10 Mar 2000 03:21:43 -0800
Subject: Sinister: Ummm.....
Message-ID: <20000310112143.14126.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net>

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From idleberry at xxx.com  Fri Mar 10 15:28:31 2000
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 07:28:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: quick note on new album
Message-ID: <20000310152831.7902.qmail@web608.mail.yahoo.com>

I'm gonna be referring to the new album as flappyfish.
I think someone else came up with the idea. But I
thought it was amusing. Thought I'd share it with you.

Second thing....
I've got a web poll up at the moment, about Isobel
Campbell. Go to my website and have a look, and maybe
vote?

Thirdly...
my mouth tastes like raw potatoes at the moment and I
have no idea why.

Okay, thats all for now.

bye!
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From ol01 at xxx.uk  Fri Mar 10 15:49:38 2000
From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:49:38 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: ben & jerry's ice cream is nice
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10003101542150.9288-100000@gromit.students.stir.ac.uk>

Hi folks
I've just bought my ticket to tomorrow night's mondo morricone tribute, so
I'll get to see a certain I Cambell in person MMMMMM. more importantly
though Eugene Kelly the former Vaseline (what a strange way to describe
someone as a former Vaseline) will be there so I get to worship a musical
god.
Also bought a ticket for Tom Mcniven Neural Interface at the jazz club
tonight so a music filled weekend for me.
new album = FUCKYWALLOP
not as good a name as TWATYBUS but still...
Also I'm going to Madrid on thursday so does anyone know where is the best
place for a night out there?

love and fizz whizz candy
     owen

With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in
a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon

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From howied41 at xxx.com  Fri Mar 10 18:38:51 2000
From: howied41 at xxx.com (David  Howie)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:38:51 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Err, (tentatively at first, gradually warming) hello?
Message-ID: <20000310183427.33796.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hello,
        Yet another random person rears their ugly head on the sinister
list.  Popping their head over the top of the trenches only to be hit by a
flurry of insults and abuse.  Not really, of course.  I've been watching,
diligently, noticing how nice all of you are.  I've weathered to big 'art
debate', the winter of 'homosexual diatribic postings', the 'sinister
village' affair.  (Better termed, Village-gate).  I've actually been sitting
watching fer ages, oblivious to the fact that I was out of the nursery.
Should I have got an e-mail of notification?  Did I get an e-mail of
notification?  Mebbes aye, mebbes naw.  I believe it is customary to
introduce oneself before entering the salacious soiree that is sinister:

Well, hello I'm David.  I'm young, I'm Scottish.  That is all I'll reveal
right now, no doubt you'll get to know me over the following months (weeks?
Possibly years? Hopefully not, epochs?)...

Do I know anyone on the list?  Well, I know Jenny Hodgson.  Or, rather, I
did know her.  She was a good friend; God knows how we drfited out of
contact.  Lovely girl she was.  Intelligent, funny, terribly twee.  Do I
hear you call wife material?  Teehee  No!.  And I know Katy Dutton (though
she's in the nursery.  You're just a baby, dutton.)  She's, err, perfect,
basically.  Do I hear you call wife material?  Weeeellll....  :)  That's all
the people I know.  Lovely, the both of them.  :)

I suppose I had better incorporate the mandatory B&S content that everyone
so innocently seems to leave out.  Well, "Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk
Like a Peasant"?  I don't know what to say really apart from that I'm a tad
excited?  Well, you could say if I was to detail how excited I am it would
count as this e-mail's compulsory smut content, that everyone seems to so
lasciviously include in each of their posts.  That's all I'm saying.  Apart
from, if I can get a 'role' in the village, can I be a Disco Dancer?  I
don't particularly care for disco dancing; I just like alliteration...
Teehee.

Right, byeeee...

that pesky young Howie cad.

"When the moon explodes or floats away,
I'll lose the souvenirs I make... La la la..." (Sunshine, Sparklehorse).

"In my head, I'm kissing you all ways.
In my heart, I'm missing you always." (Frail Gail, Madge Bishop's
Shellsuit).


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From rfadden at xxx.com  Sat Mar 11 01:54:29 2000
From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 17:54:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: 2 outs, bottom of the 9th, we want a pitcher not a belly itcher.
Message-ID: <20000311015429.24434.qmail@web115.yahoomail.com>

so list y'all,
basebase seems to be a dominant subject in my life
recently. well, more dominant/noticable than other things.
laura mentioned baseball and its ruling her travel plans,
then i saw "wonder boys" and a silly prof character in that
collects jo dimagio/marilyn monroe memorabilia, and then
i'm also reading don delillo's underworld* which begins
with a baseball game. it must be spring! or at least a
spring-themed convergence theory.

(sadly, vancouver just lost its minor league team, the
canadians, last year and we all must settle for the indoor
arena sports (like monster trucking) which really have not
much to do with sitting in the sun drinking beer and eating
nachos and calling out witty drunken things in the game's
quiet moments, of which there are many (both witty drunken
things and quiet moments.(witty being a word i use with
much deviation from standard definition...)))

(here are more brackets in case i've missed any (( )))

also, i haven't gotten out of the baseball part of
underworld because spring threatened to happen on the
weekend and i had to reread "the secret garden" to make it
hurry up and come on then. which was nice and calming and
not at all postmodern. though if you think about it too
much, it really becomes that way. argh. don't think about
it. so i don't. and, lo and behold, sunday *and* monday
were amazing warm and sunny days! for a few hours there i
felt i really did want to live forever and ever and ever.
(you know, days like diamonds, etc. aw. nice.)

and in a minor b&s related note (this must be spoken in a
yelling kind of fashionTV voice): say hello to spring and
say hello to the colour orange! yes, that's right all you
trendsetters, orange is IN! it's sassy, it's bold, use it
as an accessory or drape yourself from head to toe! and b&s
are on top of the fashion scene with the release of the
lazy line painter jane ep set! 

i've realized recently that one cannot re-tell stories from
the Onion as anecdotes. 
it took me a few tries to figure that out though.
(for those among you who aren't laughing at me, see
http://www.theonion.com and then you can laugh at a lot of
things.)

*in having to look up how to *spell* delillo, even though
i've read at least 4 of his books, i noticed that colin
campbell suggested reading a joan didion book. yes! joan
didion is awesome! everyone needs to read her book of
personal essays "slouching towards bethlehem". It really is
amazing. 

and with that, robyn plucked her eyebrows into very thin
lines and painted them with thick black liner and went out
and met her people in gold lamme.
rah!
robyn


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From Pelican303 at xxx.com  Sat Mar 11 05:41:36 2000
From: Pelican303 at xxx.com (Pelican303 at xxx.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 00:41:36 EST
Subject: Sinister: THE MOST IMPORTANT POST EVER!!!!!!!!  REALLY!!!!!!
Message-ID: <7c.2b55b4d.25fb3690@aol.com>

Listees,
Listen carefully now...what you are about to hear is pure B&S content, and 
brilliant content at that (if I may toot my own egocentric horn).  I have 
unlocked the secret of the new album title and perhaps opened a door into the 
psyche of our beloved band.
    So I noticed great debate upon the possible meaning of the new album 
title, but I feel we are going about it all wrong.  I mean, when I first 
heard the name, it seemed rather nonsensical....kinda reminded of the scene 
in "Sneakers" (Redford for the old chicks...River Phoenix for the 
young....can't go wrong) where they are messing around with scrabble tiles 
and rearranging the letters of a phrase to make different phrases (I remember 
one hysterical one involed semen somehow...but anyway...)
And then it struck me!
THE ALBUM TITLE IS NOTHING BUT A SECRET CODE!!!!!
After a moment of brilliance (or perhaps many hours of boredom) I have 
arrived at the following possible solutions.  These are only 
possibilities...I am sure I will think up more later.
Rearranging the letters of "Fold your hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant", 
you can get

1.Oh how lucky it all is!  Our fake dandy pad leans!
2. Why do old folk tease pus? I lick any hand, Laura.
3.O, I kept us any elk all day for a loud sandwhich.

I think the second one is an obvious reference to the bizare fetishes of a 
certain list member (I'm not saying who...but suffice to say she is a fellow 
North Carolinian..and obviously her name is Laura....perhaps I have said too 
much). (I am finally back in NC today, btw, and happy to be here :) )
The last one is interesting....elk sandwhiches....mmmmmmm.
As for the first, I'm not sure what a dandy pad is...perhaps its a british 
thing?  any of you guys want to fill me in?  And if its leaning, well then it 
is obviously not structurally sound and liable to fall and I really can't see 
how this would be lucky.  Of course, maybe I just don't understand what a 
dandy pad is...maybe it is something that we want to fall over...or perhaps 
the first part is said sarcastically.
Well...if this doesn't amaze you, then I have lost all faith in this list and 
will be unsubscribing tomorrow. (Just kidding...you won't get rid of me that 
easily).
If any else of you have immense amounts of free time, please help me.  I will 
compile a list of all the nominees for the code and perhaps if someone with a 
web page would like to have list members vote for the most likely one, we can 
solve the mystery of the new album title.
I'm gonna go convert the title into a series of numbers and plug it into a 
matrix.  Maybe it'll say "floppyfish" or something equally bizare.
Lovin you
Rob
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From dougal at xxx.uk  Sat Mar 11 18:09:57 2000
From: dougal at xxx.uk (Scruffy P)
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:09:57 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Sadly not that twee. And not even going to talk about fucking.
In-Reply-To: <20000130112146.7193.qmail@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0002101351030.11886-100000@mrbusy.compsoc.man.ac.uk>

[bobbing my head to Looper on my new mp3 player. In the Public cluster, do
I look a fool? I took the head phones out to see if anyone could hear what
I was listening too... no they can't...]

Hello sinisterians, this is only my second post (after the obligatory "out
of the nursery" post), and its dificult to get up the nerve to actually
send what I've writen and not re-write it... again. 

[as I look around I see another student sitting next to me...]
The sinister village is burgeoning, but it still seems that about 1000
inhabitants are commuting or out of work.
Can I run the sinister village cinema? Or at least be cheif
projectionist? We will show a scorsese film every other week. And Mina
Tanambaum in the first week. We'll use old projectors so I'll have
something to do. And if anyone wants to make 16mm films I'll project them
(that actually goes for the real world too, so long as you can get the
print to manchester). Is it alright for me to look like Edward norton, in
Fight club, as well?
Also I'd like to join Paul A in the football team, unfortunatly I would
also like to play in the left back position... could we have a whole team
of left backs?
I've been telling one of my freinds about the sinister village and she
asked if the petting zoo could have petting llamas? Personally I'm a big
fan of penguins...

[...she looks up and stares into my eyes...]
Doesn't honey have to send in a picture of his (I always thought honey
was a girl, I hope not to have offended you eitehr way) toe?
Because he said: "Why isn't there a Toe-01 yet?" (I hope that doesn't mean
I have to).

[...I feel my cheeks burning and I have to look away before I melt...]
MP3's are great. I've always beleived this, but I've truelly discovered
how cool they are, after my housemates bought me a portable MP3 player!

[...while typing all I can think about is her...]
Catch 22 is the greatest book I've ever read. At least thats what I
thought when I read what geof geof had said(about a month ago)... and then
I remembered reading das boot, Hitch hikers guide to the Galaxy and the
eternal gold braid. When ever I think of a "favourite" I always find other
things that I like more. I did think that was a bad thing, but I think it
shows my life has good things in it...

[... and how I should have reacted...]
Fiona: Birds have always been up before sun rise (particularly in wit'ie
park). Or at least the last three years.

[... I spend the rest of my time flirtivly looking up at her...]
I always read posts by people I know (so thats Paul at the moment) and
generally I'm not as interested in what good band I haven't heard of as I
am in what people have done today.

[... but she doesn't look at me anymore...]
But having said that, someone mentioned Stevie Jackson in conection with
Bill wells, and this made me prick up my ears. I've got BW v's Future
Pilot, can anyone guide me to other good stuff by Bill Wells? I may not
have tried looking as hard as I could, but its much nicer being told
things, than having to find them out, for yourself.

[... it's only now that I realise how beuatiful she is...]
Rachel said that she doesn't like doing things on impulse, but it seems to
me it would be great to be able to forget the consequences.

[... her mousey brown bob...]
Someone asked who we are... I suppose I'm a geek... Mainly a film geek,
but a computer geek as well, maybe even a music geek. But in truth I think
its very american to want to be part of a clique (is that how you
spell it?). I always find it funny that my brother and all his freinds (he
lives in america) all fit into steriotypes... while all the people I know
don't. Maybe its just perspective?

[... and the way she's fixed her glasses with a bit of wire...]
One of the "legs" body parts looks like the start of the bill (number
4). Or is it just me? I've been feeling a bit homesick recently and
watching the bill (which is filmed near where I live) hasn't helped. It
means that I am reminded of home everytime I see black stockings... which
is poo.

[... then she took them off...]
On the subject of embarassing things... I once walked in on a freind of
mine wanking. Also the girl who I fancy (who  happens to live underneth
me), can hear me...

[... she looks even nicer...]
Body parts: If we talk about a photo that someone else has sent in do we
have to send in a picture of that bit as well?

[... now I have to go and I probably won't see her again :(... ]
Iris: They call them soap operas because they used to have soap ads in the
comercials. And they were like litle operas. And I think it would be cool
if we went "on heat" like cats. Imagine men standing around on street
corners shouting and rubbing themselves against... oh that already
happens... this by the way is a reply to a very old mail.

[... It's now a month later, and only this mail reminds me of her...]
After I read all the mails from Hong K. I was wondering. Does the chinese
calender have a starting point (like ours does)? If so what year is it
now? By the way I'm a Dragon, so that would make this year mine... he he,
the power...

[... and soon even this will be gone.]
I had a dream about getting a tatoo and a peircing. Two things I think are
silly, but after the dream I wanted them, despite my thoughts about the
usfulness. On the other hand, I have a fight club caustic soda scar. This
will be news to my house mate if he has read this far as I told him it was
an acident in a chemistry practical.

Oh well it seems that saving a post for a month just makes it very long
(even after I've deleated loads) and rambling... or maybe thats how I
talk?

Louis

ps after hearing all the talk of the sinister chat room, I tryed it... but
failed
:-(
Part of the university rules are: no chat rooms
so maybe my failings are just stopping me from doing another bad thing
today.

pps, I seemed to have a lot of ":-("s in this mail, which is strange as
I'm a very happy person, and don't feel that sad. I'd hate for you all to
get the wrong idea.

-- 
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From chris_t_opher at xxx.com  Sat Mar 11 19:37:10 2000
From: chris_t_opher at xxx.com (Chris_t_opher)
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 19:37:10 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Put the box-set back on the shelf...
Message-ID: <001701bf8b91$32841920$db9a01d5@gsh>

I'm sorry....

    I bought the box set today. But don't complain, I was missing 1 and a
half EPs so it's a good 4 mi. I think 3...6...9 could soon become my
favourite EP (overall). Every track is pure quality. Dog On Wheels sounds
better on the Black Sessions i think (which is somewhat of a let-down).
String Bean Jean has exactly the same chords and guitar lick as The Kids
Aren't Alright by The Offspring, which really frightened me - I'm not saying
The Kids... is bad, but you really dont expect things like that, do you? The
set itself is pretty annoying - the three CDs fit with a millimetre to
spare, so the cover is gonna get bashed very quickly.

    I was just wondering why Jeepster didnt want to release all four EPs in
the set. I think it's probably because record shops dont seen to like more
than 3CD sets but it's still annoying. They're probably planning to release
another after two more EPs.

    Louis had a smashing email thingy. I didnt read all the content, i was
following the story about the girl with the broken glasses too closely. It's
the same for me most of the time :o) I hope (for your sake) there's a
follow-up to that, Louis.

    Did anyone see that program last Sunday on BEEB2 at about Midnight? It
was called Speak Like A Child. The thing that drew me to it was the song
that they played throughout it - Nick Drake's Saturday Sun. It's good to see
that people are starting to really recognise how good his music is for
things like that. I thought i read somewhere that one of his songs was used
on an advert once, but it was probably just my imagination (?). Anyway,
Nature Boy has finished, so i was slightly unhappy. I think some Nick Drake
would have fitted perfectly in that programme.

    I've been listening to all the music i bought over the holidays. The
Frames are very good (in a kind of U2/Commercial way) so i've heard that a
few times. Mega City Four sounded better than i thought they would. I was
thinking of FSOL when i bought it (for some reason). Whistler has
(obviously) gained a place on my main CD rack. As has Michael Head (THANKS
KADJIE) and HMS Fable is on top of my CD player. All the others are next to
my printer and i keep forgetting they're even there.

    Short and snappy, it's.....

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From aconover at xxx.net  Sun Mar 12 05:25:30 2000
From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus)
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 00:25:30 -0500
Subject: Sinister: if i get any more indie i'll have to live in a cave.
Message-ID: <200003120522.AAA26774@s1.nassau.cv.net>

yeah. so someone said that the fieldmice were really GRATE, which 
made me sad that i didn't buy their double-cd set when i had the 
chance. i have way too many new records being thrown at me 
constantly, but i never have the time!

i bet you were all wondering "hey, where's that adam apparatus got 
off to?" but not really, because you don't know me that well. why? 
because i haven't been posting. it's a terrible fix, really.

why has no one commented on the b+s lp album cover conundrum? yes, 
the one about how they all seem to have some sort of design 
consistency, at least from IYFS on (tigermilk's letter are a little 
too flowery). the type is all more or less the same, and the pictures 
are always two-tone... although i like the yellow, it certainly it 
nice. the only covers that don't at least partially fit the theme are 
3..6..9... (the shiny stuff probably counts as "two-tone", but 
there's no print at all) and dog on wheels (although i don't own it, 
so i'm not sure.) the other two eps do ok. any comments?

see, that was just chock-full of b+s content.

ok, so here's a question. i love my coffee, yes i do. i don't have 
enough money for fancy coffee stuff, although i do grind my beans... 
but does anyone have any suggestions for cheap coffee-enhancing 
recipies? i tried dropping a hershey's mini-bar in a cup once, but it 
didn't dissolve at all and tasted terrible anyway. suggestions?

a final note to leave you with:
alan clapp is GRATE!

- adam

aconover at optonline.net
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From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com  Sun Mar 12 07:15:48 2000
From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com)
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 02:15:48 EST
Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #84
Message-ID: <60.1541986.25fc9e24@aol.com>


In a message dated 3/11/00 12:18:26 PM, owner-sinister-digest at missprint.org 
writes:

>before bidding farewell, i must thank You for introducing new (to me, at
>least) and grate music to me. thanks to sinister i've had the courage to
>buy records by felt, field mice, go-betweens, salako, hefner, marine
>research, lucksmiths et al. and right now i'm listening to kate
>rusby: she does not rock, she folks.  ;)
>just one example: i bought field mice's where 'd you.. without ever
>having heard them before. i now know i can trust Your taste.
>
>
Don't forget the band Cotton Mather...

Pete G.
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From smiley at xxx.uk  Sat Mar 11 22:08:31 2000
From: smiley at xxx.uk (Mr Smiley)
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 22:08:31 -0000
Subject: Sinister: You're never praised, and now you're erased
Message-ID: <000001bf8bf5$735a2840$b05d883e@n8j4k7>

Hullo,

    I'd like to apologise in advance if many errors occur regarding
capitalisation in this mail, but my shift key is on the point of death. I
normally view that kind of thing as important.
    Have you all just stopped talking? I thought Sinister had died a
terrible death when I didn't get a digest for two days. I though maybe this
was related to Honey's swanning off to NYC. Maybe he/she (it?) has left us
and evidently a list this big can't run itself. But then I got #84, so I'm
obviously wrong.
    I got the EP box set today (thanks Katy!). Mmmm! La Pastie de la
Bourgeoisie (can't be bothered to check spelling) has now overtaken
Expectations as my all time fave B&S tune.
    I've just had a flash of inspiration! You know when you go clubbing, and
there's some guy on E waving around a sign with TUNE! written on it? We
should all hit the clubs one night and wave big signs saying TWEE! Of course
we'd all be killed horribly.
    I'd like to advise anyone who's thinking on giving Jeepster £1.25 for a
bit of card not to do so. What is it with that slipcase? It took me ten
minutes to get a CD out. It's like a girdle for compact discs! Well, now
they're out those EPs are not going back in, no matter how cosy it is. Nice
pic though.
    Interesting note: The sun has been shining today and everybody has been
nice to me.
    This is embarrassing, but I'm well known for my self depreciation and
still cling to the belief that it's a loveable quality. Until I read digest
#84 I had not made the connection between FYHCYWLAP and the title of the new
B&S album. I just thought "FYHCYWLAP? What's going on there then?". Jesus
I'm stupid.

God be with you
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From secretmysterydate at xxx.com  Sun Mar 12 07:45:08 2000
From: secretmysterydate at xxx.com (Samuel C. Wheeler IV)
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 02:45:08 EST
Subject: Sinister: a new baby!!!
Message-ID: <20000312074508.96369.qmail@hotmail.com>

hip hop hooray!!!

	i am a new baby boy on the mailing list and i am so very excited to be able 
to finally post to everyone!

so.... to start i will just introduce myself:

	my name is sam (Samuel Crane Wheeler IV, to be formal and all) and i am 
going to school for art at carnegie mellon university in pittsburgh, pa. i 
have two adorable kittens named issac and elliot (not directly named after 
Mr Hayes and Mr Smith, though i sometimes call them that when they are being 
naughty). i live with my firend allison, who builds mobile robots, and is 
very happy becasue she just got into her fav grad school. i myself an taking 
some time before grad school, so no such good news for me. i spend mostof my 
time working on projects, i do installations mostly, painting next, and 
video third, just little documentaries and stuff. i'm a big dork so i am 
usually in studio when i should be out having fun.

	i have been a b+s fan for quite some time and was very upset when they last 
toured the US because i couldn't go and see them in D.C. because i was 
putting up a show. grrrr. oh, i play music too, just me and my acoustic, 
very kaia-meets-velvet-underground-ish, maybe, who knows. i've been getting 
a lot of shows lately, and it is so much fun. i didn't think i was going to 
end up really doing this, i jsut played coffee houses and amnesty intn'l 
fund raisers, but it's sort of rolling now, a little ( i hope it doesn't 
sound like i'm all local rock star-ish, b/c it totally isn't, a lot of shows 
to me is like 2 or 3), just fun stuff, y'know?
ummmmm...
	i'm sure i sound so very dull right now, but i promise that i am in fact a 
bundle of fun and excitment. i am now avoiding work on a big show that is 
going up in may, so this is a veru nice distraction from that. it's much 
better than what i might otherwise be doing, ordering cd's onine and smoking 
too many cigarettes in my studio upstairs.

i guess it seems kind of lame that i am writing late on a saturday night, 
but i promise that i just came from a party with some friends, very exciting 
and hip, yeah? actually i'm a bit of a dullard at parties so i left. a 
little awkward. plus i couldn't drink because i know that i have a lot to do 
still tonight and couldn't be falling asleep in studio with my head on some 
dirty pillow and paint on my face. yucko.

someone there made some crazy yucky drink that seemed like a mix of bad 
wine, cherry coke, and lime juice, obviously i didn't want much to do with 
that. we ended up dancing to old madonna and chatting with some folks 
visiting from london and amsterdam. very nice boys.  i am excited because my 
friend matt hooked up with my other new friend richie from new zealand, 
tonight, which is so nice becasue they are both so sweet and have been 
single for a while and really want someone nice, so i hope it works out.
anyway, i hope this isn't too void of b+s content, but i just wanted to 
splash in and say hello to everyone.
i will write again soon, maybe post a picture on the photo page?
i love you all,
ciao...
		sam
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From james at xxx.uk  Sun Mar 12 10:25:53 2000
From: james at xxx.uk (James Glossop)
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 10:25:53 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 05:02:42 -0000
Message-ID: <000201bf86c6$f4319540$2414883e@uxlfdlvk>

Hi all

Hope everyone is OK, and living life to the max.

I've been writing some poems and stuff for a while, and also like to read
other's poetry and was wondering if any of you out there would be interested
in arranging some kinda poem (shit, the word "poem" turns into "porn" very
easily, y'know, the e key is near the r key and the n key is near the m key;
be careful, you digital-bohemians, you!) exchanging thing, where we send
each other our work etc.?????? So then we can all bloat our egos and tell
each
other how bluddy brilliant we all are...... All answers/ insults to be sent
to address above. Jim's fantastic digital-boho-poem-ring is an
equal-opportunities
organisation and will accept work from everyone everywhere, however naive
etc. etc. That turned into an advert. Shit. Sorry honey.

The adf album is grate. pleaserespectmytaste........

If you've read this far; it's not a particularly fantastic feat of stamina,
as that was a short post.

How funny.

All good things

James Glossop [worksopengland]


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From minake at xxx.ee  Sun Mar 12 10:51:31 2000
From: minake at xxx.ee (Maarit)
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:51:31 +0200
Subject: Sinister: I'm probably losing it
Message-ID: <004001bf8c10$ed9cb9e0$786c6ac2@user>

Hi Sinister,

Shouldn't probably mention, but I'm new.
My first post should come out as smashing, as my weekend was.
Although it probably won't but that's not important. Is it? Don't answer.
I thought I would sleep, watch TV(sic!-> just got new sixty channels), read
and listen to music.
So, it was friday night, I printed out this really important paper for a
friend and agreed
to go out and meet her for a minute and a cup of coffe.
Accidentally bumped into a friends friend, who I quite fancied for a while.
And who, turned out to be gay.
Fat chance. Yet another acquaintance came. So it was four of us and I really
didn't think about going
home that much anymore. There was a fetish club opening that night, and
though I'm not really into people shouting
"spank me" (at leat when they are serious)  we decided to go. On the way we
stopped in a gay club. Oh, i'm hetero by the way, if it's important. And I
found out that "dark room" isn't just ment or used as developing photos.
Silly me.
Anyway, we carried on, and cause we weren't actually dressed in leather and
stuff, decided to go somewhere else.
Yet another club had had it's opening that week. This time a place for
trendsetters and young writers and just really posh, but actually pretty
nice, people. You can't even get in if you don't have a card.
It was the best time I had had for ages. Everything I said was funny. And
suddenly I realised what the girl, who sang "I feel pretty, I feel pretty
and witty and wise" ment.
The clock was doing it's another round, so others decided to leave. I
realised then that the moment was perfect so I decided to stay a little more
and get to know some people. God, did I have fun. Actually, when I was going
home, yes, my home I was still laughing and I can't wait until I meet some
people again.
Probably should see a minister. (HAA, there's your B and S content)

Oh, and Louis, yes you, please look like Edward Norton, please.

Love and free wine.


Maarit

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From lixibell at xxx.com  Sun Mar 12 20:32:57 2000
From: lixibell at xxx.com (alix campbell)
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 20:32:57 GMT
Subject: Sinister: in rare foul mood, won't last long
Message-ID: <20000312203257.11996.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hello

Here�s another backdated post from me. It is Tuesday today.
I did an honest days work yesterday and intend to carry on this way. It�s 
just not healthy, I say, but one is compelled. I spent Sunday preparing for 
my big day by rearranging my CDs. Not only have I put them back into 
alphabetical order, but I have separated the singles from the albums. I�m 
not sure whether I like this way of arranging though. I am doing a bTEC in 
Being Boring, it would appear.

Rachel Tucker:
>and the delgados are coming to oxford
>beginning of may, and hefner are playing sometime in april (paul> i 
> >managed
>to delete a load of my mails by mistake including yours so i haven't >got 
>you
>addy; can you get in touch again cos i've got all the info you >wanted), 
>beth
>orton's playing here, and brassy,


well, this isn�t fucking fair. No one ever played when I lived there. Except 
for the time B&S did, and I didn�t like them much at the time and didn�t go. 
Oxford�s not allowed to have nice stuff happen, unless I�m there, to stumble 
gin addled up the Cowley Road and eat chips from Wings. In my day we were 
lucky if Sir Bald Diddley and his Wigouts *played*. Well, perhaps lucky 
isn�t the right word.

I also love Ant and Dec. I�m going to kidnap them, and love them forever and 
ever and ever and ever.

The Brits. What shite. As anyone who was at my house that night knows, I 
scweamed and wept and hid under my bed at the sheer horror of it. I didn�t 
think that there would ever be a program where all the worse music ever was 
nominated. Texas (please let me at Sharlene Spitoon, or whatever she�s 
called, and allow me to weld her face shut), Stereophonics (the trick, Kelly 
(GIRLS NAME) is * not * to release every song from the album. Oh, and to 
make good music), Travis, Gabrielle the so called, one-eyed �queen of 
soul(lessness)�, Ian Brown and his delusions of monkeyness, Tom twatting 
Jones, Sting (just piss off, OK), Gomez (stop pretending you aren�t old men) 
and Martin(e) McCutcheon. Why is all this awful music encouraged? WHY? WHY?
It�s just a good thing the lighthouse weren�t nominated, , say for �most 
original band�, and Ally McBeal hosting it , because had they been, I would 
have fetched my kalashnikov.


Could I have used less brackets in the previous paragraph?

Has anyone heard of the band Weeping Jesus? I heard some the other day, 
through a friend, and they�re rather impressive, despite the name.


Now it�s Friday, but there�s nothing new to add. I shall read my digests and 
see if I have an opinion. Ooh, I thought of something. It�s the Tranny of 
the Year awards on Channel 5 tonight.

I reckon the book on the cover of LLPJ is �Soap Bubbles and the Forces That 
Mould Them� which is a tremendously exciting text I stole from my school 
library.

I did write some more tonight (Sunday) and it was fantastic, witty and 
gripping, but then the computer crashed twice and I�m can�t be bothered to 
do it again. I hate having to do ScanDisk, and put up with its insults �Your 
computer was not shut down properly and you started the holocaust� I KNOW  
my computer wasn�t shut down properly. I didn�t ask it to crash. He who is 
without guilt cast the first stone. Yes, I am taking to you, Scan fucking 
disk. It�s my flatmate�s fault for having a shit computer, I�m going to 
steal some of her margarine as revenge. Now it won�t let me connect to the 
internet.
<Lixi grimaces at the monitor and generally looks and sounds like an enraged 
gorilla>

byebye
lixi


"Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's an 8 inch anal probe, silly" ~ 
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From howied41 at xxx.com  Sun Mar 12 21:06:07 2000
From: howied41 at xxx.com (David  Howie)
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:06:07 -0000
Subject: Sinister: "I see" (Blind man 3:16)
Message-ID: <20000312210338.26988.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hello,

Again, another foray into the frivolous, fateful and fickle font of
knowledge that is Sinister.  Presently, I'm evading the deluge of work that
the SQA seems to be bestowing upon anyone stupid enough to stay on for
Higher Swill.  Note: the Scottish education system is rather poor.  Thanks
to that oh so precious vector, who seemed to wave hello whilst bidding
goodbye.  Miss Farewell, that is you.  Thanks for the nice warm welcome, it
is always nice to be well received.  Nice?  Sorry, 'tis a very nondescript
word I know.

B&S content is reccomended round these parts, I hear.  Well, I suppose I
could furnish your inbox with an observation my oh-so-clever girlfriend
made.  The cover to FYHCYWLAP has been contrived to look like a girl looking
in a mirror.  Though, it is obvious that the picture is not a mirror image
but rather two similar looking ladies ogling each other.  I never noticed
it; I've not heard (seen?) anyone mention it on the list.  If it has been
mentioned before, sorry.

FYHCYWLAP?  If goaded by this monster on Countdown, I'm sure the *ahem!* G
of the D would be rather disconcerted.  What can we garner from
re-assembling the letters?  My best effort is the 4 letter Flap, Clap, Chap.
Any advance on 4?  What a mundane game Countdown really is.  Twice nightly
whitely hath a lot to answer to.

Did I hear someone mention "Catch-22"?  I'm reading that at the moment.  It
has me physically wetting myself at times.  (As opposed to spiritually, or
metaphysically, wetting yourself, Howie?)  I would also reccomend, my
favourite book, "Tender Is The Night" by F. Scott Fitzgerald.  I can't say
anything about it without breaking down into paroxysms of pure emotion and
spasmodic grief.  Beautifully crafted, F. Scott has a lyrical style to die
for.  It may attract criticism as 'not the intellectual piece of Art that
Gatsby is' but it is not as it has been described by some critics: "starry,
superficial surfaces designed for glitzy impermanence."  I reckon this is my
favourite book, intellectually and instinctually.

Is such blatant book bias deemed that oh-so-woeful of crimes: 'list abuse'?
I'm sorry.  I'll keep my content in future to pure B&S and Smut content.

Thankyouverymuch,

David.

"You sold the pimp a warehouse,
You dialled 666 for Santa..." (Syd Lexia, Madge Bishop's Shellsuit.)

"A whispered, 'listen'; a punctured kiss.
Transient heaven, electrostatic bliss..." (Frail Gail, Madge Bishop's
Shellsuit.)

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From paularathoon at xxx.com  Mon Mar 13 10:56:06 2000
From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:56:06 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Fold your legs child you look like a prostitute
Message-ID: <20000313105606.84081.qmail@hotmail.com>

For some reason I am laughing inordinantly at my clever pun contained in the 
title and I am also smiling manically at the music on my MD player which is 
a lounge compilation- Songs For The Jet Set...and had a great version of the 
VU's After Hours.

Anyway, Louis' e-mail was very funny and informative probably because I am 
his housemate and definatly because he seems to have signed a contract which 
makes him say Fight Club every 5 mins and also because he admits he fancies 
another of our housemates...And yes, he does look like Ed Norton.I am also 
whipping him at Popex hahaahahha.

I really hate the period of waiting that comes between knowing the release 
date of an album and the actual release date. I first tasted this annoying 
time waiting for Nirvana's Insecticide to come out in 1992 and have since 
bben annoyed at waiting for various Oasis albums, B&S,Pavement,Primal Scream 
etcecte
It's even worse for B&S because they are GRATE and their new single will be 
played 4 times on Radio 1 . By Sir Peel who will fuck it all up in his own 
idiosyncratic manner. The obvious solution is to get hold of a promo copy 
but then that would be cheating and possibly very expensive.

Well it looks like Wimbledon won't be relegated this year after winning on 
saturday but the inevitability of relegation at some time or another before 
the release of the 5th B&S album is obvious

I hepled another of my housemates DJ at a womans 40th on friday night. It 
was awful becuase we had to play U2, Bon Jovi etc and then some drunk woman 
asked for "Jesus Star" by James. I almost cried with laughter. i couldn't 
belive anyone would think it was that.

Love and chunky kitkats
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From Mark at xxx.com  Mon Mar 13 10:57:26 2000
From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:57:26 -0000
Subject: Sinister: His usual diplomatic, coherent self
Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22DB389D@SERVER1>

Antti - in your list of top bands recommended by the sinister massive (I'm
not wild about Felt, but share your feelings on the others, so ta from me
too, sinister) you forgot THE FREE DESIGN. Shame on you - go out and buy all
their elpees now! And that goes for the rest of you. I want a report on my
desk first thing Friday morning. And Dastoor, take that sneer off your face
now young man.

Robin S - no matter how much you pretend, the truth is seeping out about
your sordid sex secret. Does that make Arantxa a "raving lesbo ho"? (cheers
Star)

Laura Loo - as I'm supposed to be educated in a romantic tongue (ahem), I
can recommend Dino Buzzati as a short story author par excellence. He's not
only dead good, but he is responsible for my only first EVER at university
an extended essay on "How to Write a Good Short Story". I forget, sadly, how
one actually does write a good short story, and the actual essay is lost in
the mists of time. But I got a wacking great 70% for it and I will take my
pride (and astonishment) to my grave.

Spellcheck thinks Buzzati should actually be Busty. Fair enough then.

Now that Vilkas is on the list, all bets for best list name ever are off.
D'Angelo-Horvath? Fantastic!

Does anyone else find the new album title, which I shall refer to by the
acronym TIGERMILK, scarily reminiscent of the cringeworthy bit in a Kate
Bush (another one for you there, Antti) song, the name of which I've
forgotten? Makes me shudder slightly, but the birds on the cover look foxy
enough, know what I mean?

(I had a bit of a rant at this point, but I don't want to upset anyone, so
I'll just say cheerio)

Cheerio sinister!
Mark xxx

p.s. I'm scared, auntsadie

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From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com  Mon Mar 13 12:03:55 2000
From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 04:03:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: AUCTION...........SIGNED TWATTYBUS, 1 FOR £12
Message-ID: <20000313120355.12512.qmail@web1406.mail.yahoo.com>

OKay. the auction. I've had some mails about it.
so....
1) they are all LPs
2)tigermilk is not an original pressing
3) no one has bid yet for eityher TWATTYBUS OR
sinister. minimum bid is £12. bargain.
4)I wishI was a market trader. I coul;d sell stuff so
much better. in my best mockney voice.

here are the urls again. auction closes the saturday,
by the way.
TIGERMILK -
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=278744492

SINISTER -
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=278746741

TWATYBUS -
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=278749158

PLEASE bid. pwetty, pwetty, pweeze?


on the subject of good gigs - OHMYGAWD - the chemikal
underground fith birthday - AHCHRIST
-BUGGERINGBOLLOCKS - I missed it. my sisters 21st
lastnight. verah,verah drunk. I was being fed jack
aniels&coke, except I couldn't taste the alchohol in
them, so I thought it was just coke. bugger. I fell
down some stairs. It h-u-r-t. oh. some people that
used to go to my school had a knive at my throat on
saturday night. they said I was looking at their
burds. there were no burds around. I tried to tell
them that. but they wouldn't reason. so one of them
said he would let me go but next time, he would 'have
me', but then  his mate said, "naw, I'll fecking take
the wee puff" and grabbed my neck. they all smelt of
booze and piss, and were quite badly coordinated, so I
kneed him in the bollocks and ran for a mile. 


which was nice.

please, people learn to spell. GRATE means a metal
thingie with slits for drainage, ect. it doesn't mean
"really, really good.". get back to school, the lotta
ya.


shit. I just realised that I've left my coco pops and
honey nut loops burning in chemistry. I better go and
check on them. bye.


chris
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From tobli301 at xxx.se  Mon Mar 13 12:25:41 2000
From: tobli301 at xxx.se (Tobias Lilja)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:25:41 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Ramblings etc.
Message-ID: <000701bf8ce7$3fb62960$c4e9ec82@b196.ryd.student.liu.se>

Hi y'all, hope you're all well.
A week ago I had my first "danceing manicly in a crowded place to B&S" moment at a local indie night. It was to Dirty dream#2 and it took at least a couple of days to get the smile of my face. It's so good when you just don't care about the people around you and just dance. My friends refused to dance to it so I had to dance by myself witch only made it even funnier. (they wouldn't dance to "beeing boring" either so it's their loss)

Doesn't the cover to FYHCYWLAP sort of look like a cover to placebo or something (no offence ment, it's just a bit different from the earlier ones)

I have discovered two new (for me at least) bands which both have star in their names the last week (isn't that odd) namely brittle stars and trembling blue stars. They're both GRATE

That's enough for me
see you soon!
/Toby

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From pijlenboog at xxx.com  Mon Mar 13 12:41:35 2000
From: pijlenboog at xxx.com (stefan van der heijden)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:41:35 GMT
Subject: Sinister: story
Message-ID: <20000313124135.88538.qmail@hotmail.com>

I am sitting in the library, going through my e-mails. I am bored. There is 
nothing to do. Nothing exciting at least. I am staring at the bearded man 
sitting right in front of me. I've come to suspect him to be working on some 
kind of thesis. I think he must be a religious person, because when I passed 
him a few minutes ago to go to the toilet, I happened to notice the gigantic 
Christian cross on his screen. He was trying to cut it down to a certain 
size, but for what purpose exactly I don't know, and I didn't dare ask him. 
Maybe he was a priest in disguise, or just someone obsessed with crosses. 
Maybe his is gonna be the work that's gonna prove once and for all that it 
was all a lie, whatever that may be.
Yesterday I went over to my friend Jop's house. First me, him, and his 
girlfriend Nancy, whom I have known for six or seven years now, drank coffee 
and listened to a Johnny Cash record. Johnny was singing bout rings of fire, 
while the three of us enjoyed our sunday's rest.
Then me and Jop went upstairs to record this little song I wrote Saturday 
night. Saturday night, let's see....I was lying on my couch, it was about 
02:00, very night and very dark. The cat was trying to convince me it really 
need to go outside, but because she underwent surgery a few days ago, that 
option was totally out of the question, as far as I'm concerned.
Anyway, I had just decided I would not go out for a beer anymore. I  was 
gonna stay at home and write a song about Leonardo DiCaprio. Not that I'm 
obsessed with Leo, not in the sexual sense at least, I just love the way his 
name sounds. Try it for yourself, it's not something to feel bad about: Take 
three deep breaths and use your most poetic voice:
L E O N A R D O   DI  C A P R I O. Anyway, twenty minutes later, I had some 
sort of a lyric, and I decided it was time to go to bed.
  And there was Jop and me, recording it the day after. I must say it came 
out pretty well, me doing both lead and harmony vocals, and Jop playing 
guitar and keyboard. It's complete  title is "Drinking Pinacoladas (Leonardo 
DiCaprio)", and it's kind of dirty. I want to write more songs about famous 
people and the kinky things they do, cause it's so much fun.

Well, I think I have to go now. The use 30-minute shifts here, because 
everybody wants to spill their guts out on the internet these days.
Anyway, beardy guy is gone, either to take a piss or praying somewhere
he's gonna be able to finish his piece before the world explodes. I think 
I'm gonna go to the University for a coffee. Hey, what can I say: it's 
monday, I'm bored. By the way: a very beautiful girl is now standing in 
front of beardie's screen. I just hope she doesn't delete his stuff. Bye 
people.

Love, Stefan


By the way: my next essay to be posted onto this list, is going to be 
entitled "What to do when you live together with someone who is completely 
and totally obsessed with Sarah Michelle Gellar, aka Buffy the Vampire 
Slayer", but if any of you think I'm getting way out of line here, just let 
me know.









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From ol01 at xxx.uk  Mon Mar 13 12:49:40 2000
From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:49:40 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: welcome to the physics disco, all the boys are dancing on their own.
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10003131237110.11583-100000@gromit.students.stir.ac.uk>

Strange thing
actual B&S content in this post

I saw bel at the ennio moricone tribute on saturday night, she was wearing
the most gorgeous shoes and she sang an old song orriginally recorded by
Astrud Gilberto but I can't remember the name 'cos my spanish is a bit
poor, her spanish isn't though which was rather impressive (she was using
a lyric sheet though so maybe she had it all written out phonetically). I
was a bit dissapointed though 'cos she only did one track and then sat at
the side watching the rest of the performance. Similarly that great god
Eugene Kelly only did one song but it was great, taken from an advert for
a household cleaner, the first line was "I wanna be you're bright white
knight." which was almost as good a line as "I love your foaminess". The
rest of the night was great too though so if they tour it anywhere near
you then go see it.

Finally some good news for you all, I'm very busy at the moment and once
I've got my work out of the way I'm going to Madrid from thurs to tues so
this will be the last that most of you hear from me for over a week. Try
not to cheer too loud at that you might wake the neighbours.

love and padlocks
   owen

With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in
a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon

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From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk  Mon Mar 13 13:58:20 2000
From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:58:20 BST
Subject: Sinister: i only kiss kiss kiss when the sun don't shine
Message-ID: <31693765EF5@mail1.mcc.ac.uk>

cue a very obvious and vulgar mishearing, but admit it, you all 
chuckled didn't you? huh huh

  firstly, apologies to anyone i was supposed to contact over the 
weekend; sleeping and seeing my family kind of took precedence over 
everything else *grins sheepishly*

   ok, the most exciting that happened to me this weekend was i found 
someone to get me into see hefner for free. this comes as a result of 
  a)whinging about having no money
  b)being a girl
  c)spending too much time on the internet
somehow this makes people want to be nice to me, try it, it really 
works. but don't tell anyone because i wasn't supposed to.

  can't remember if i told you before, but siniville now boasts its 
very own jaffa cake delivery girl - me! i will cycle round the town 
going up and going down, bringing you orangey delights.

  speaking of which, can you really get lime ones? i find the very 
idea quite shocking.

  also, yesterday, i managed to start two conversations about jaffa 
cakes in the jeepster chat room. this was achieved by mentioning them 
repeatedly until someone else took up the thread. try it with any 
random word or phrase and see how it catches on. i would of course 
have been in #sinister except that it won't speak to me, i thought it 
was just university computers that wouldn't let me in, but i tried at 
home and my pooter there didn't love me either. *sigh* if anyone has 
any suggestions to make it work, i'd be grateful.

  ordered my slipcase the other day, yes i am that sad, i need the 
complete collection of artwork, no really i do, but the postage costs 
nearly as much as the bluddy thing itself, most unimpressed i was.

  right, i'm going to actually do some actual work, in the library, a 
scary prospect i know, but i have to put my new found resolve into 
practice.

      love and jaffa cakes,   fiona

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From idleberry at xxx.com  Mon Mar 13 14:30:31 2000
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idle berry)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 06:30:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: news just in...Isobel Campbell is cute and twee Shocker!
Message-ID: <20000313143031.13786.qmail@web613.mail.yahoo.com>

Feeling a little queasy today, and I know why but I'm
not going to tell you. But its probably something to
do with that raw potato taste I had in my mouth last
week. 
Came to the conclusion, that Isobel Campbell has
modelled herself upon Sandy from "Grease", before she
went all leathery and sexed up. Does this make Stu M
John  Travolta? Go grease lightenin' etc etc etc. 

Took a look at my little poll. I see that the isobel
fans came along, cos she got voted as "cute and twee".
Although I personally voted differently. 

So i've changed my poll in my website this week, as a
choice over the best b+s album.

Discovered that I have a horrible 1000 word essay due
in after Easter holidays.... horrible, because its an
essay about one type of Norwegian language (Nynorsk)
that isn't commonly spoken (bit like scouse, only with
better accents). And I have to write it into Bokmal
(the more commonly used form of Norwegian). Still,
maybe I can get my mother to help me with it. 
Or write it.
or finish my degree for me.
or all of the above.

Missing my copy of Tigermilk desperately...I just hope
my dad is looking after it for me properly. Has anyone
else discovered their parents like B+S? 

never thought my dad and I would see eye to eye on
music, but there you go.

Later!

idleberry

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From antako at xxx.fi  Mon Mar 13 14:40:03 2000
From: antako at xxx.fi (Antti Koskiranta)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:40:03 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Sinister: beck in stockholm!
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0003131631310.12418-100000@alya.utu.fi>


i'm abusing the list now, but it's for a good cause. okay?

my friend has a ticket for Beck in Stockholm, next monday, 20 march, and
she can't make it. so the ticket is for sale.

if you want to help a poor lass, and see BECK!, mail her at

	ktervonen at hotmail.com

that's all


love and mints,

antti

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From jasonandreas at xxx.net  Mon Mar 13 15:09:09 2000
From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:09:09 -0000
Subject: Sinister: His : Anal Topics
Message-ID: <00b301bf8cfe$1611a460$88ccb0c2@default>

Hi twee buddies <grin>

I had an odd night at the 13th Note on Friday.

I was with a few folk, celebrating someone's 18th, when who should wander in
but *deep breath* Ally, Ailsa (+Neil), Callum, Carsmile Steve and Meg (Mrs
Carsmile). How incredibly shocking. The people I was with were all a bit
bemused and kept asking me why these people had their badges on upside down
<grins> After they went downstairs to see the bands, who should turn up but
five folk from the alt.music.belle+sebastian group. I never realised that I
knew so many people <giggle>. I wish I could have gone downstairs and seen
the bands with you guys, but my loyalties for the night were with the folk I
was with. Pity really, cos I hear that a few of the band are on Sinister
too.

I HAVE A NEW CRUSH VOTE!!! - whoever you are, don't be shy, reveal yourself
and you may even get a snog out of it. Please tell me who you are. Please.

I will allow full abuse of my body to the person who can get me a copy of
Fishyclap before it hits the shops <grin> Well, only if the person is a
girl. If you're a guy, I'll give you a hearty handshake and a Radiohead
bootleg <grin>

I just realised that the abbreviation of History : Analysis Of Topics on my
college timetable is ****"His :Anal Topics"*****. How did that little fishy
escape the net? huh? huh? hmm?

Would a twee thesaurus be a thethauruth?

--Jason Andreas

Silent whispers in my head,
Never heard but always said.

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From angel_blackwell at xxx.com  Mon Mar 13 15:36:28 2000
From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (kinky angel)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:36:28 EST
Subject: Sinister: best laid plans...
Message-ID: <20000313153628.2351.qmail@hotmail.com>

why is it when you plan to have an easy going weekend, go to a movie, play 
around with daemons in #sinister, and generally be good little angel...it 
never works that way? saw mission to mars friday night and was supposed to 
go home. i called the little man on my way home and he said he could get us 
into the club free that's next to the movie theatre...well it was straight 
boy preppy hell...i caught myself hitting on a girl...i'm a sucker for 
anyone who calls me adorable. saturday...don't go to clubs by yourself if 
you're not sure who's gonna be there...cute little brit boy was hitting on 
me and it was kinda cute...asked me to come home with him and i had to 
remind him that i work for him...
k...saw that box set thingy in the shops...i'm broke so i simply looked at 
it...so of course i bought a coil album...all logic when it comes to money 
has simply left me...i know i'll buy the box set sooner or later...gonna 
wait for a day i need cheering up...
a.
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From secretmysterydate at xxx.com  Mon Mar 13 17:00:22 2000
From: secretmysterydate at xxx.com (hot wheeler)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:00:22 EST
Subject: Sinister: selfish question
Message-ID: <20000313170022.53129.qmail@hotmail.com>

hello hello,

I have a selfish, entirely non-B+S related question for everyone who lives 
in London...

First: Do any of you go to St. Martin's?

Second: If you do, do you know Miss Vanessa Able?

Third: Or perhaps her American exchange in London, the dashing Mr Terry 
Young?

The reason that I ask is that he my super friend and I miss him so. He is 
away for a semester in London and I am stuck in Pittsburgh. If anyone 
frequents St Martins, if they could find him out and give him a hug, I would 
appreciate it. If not, I will just wait until I go there in May.

Okay, that's all for now, I just though it would be a wonderful application 
of list abuse to send an overseas hug Terry.

Love,
Sam
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From messentw at xxx.uk  Mon Mar 13 16:49:43 2000
From: messentw at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?William=20Messent?=)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:49:43 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Fold Your Hands, Child, You Walk Like A Messent
Message-ID: <20000313164943.11794.qmail@web308.mail.yahoo.com>

Mornin'.

Well we've got a release date, the tracklisting, and
an odd (but fetching) title. It's all coming into
place and it warms my heart. The kids have been away
too long and it'll be good to have them back. We'll
just have to wait and see what it sounds like. Can't
think of a witty abbrieviation mind you. Or spell it.

Have we worked out whether the title is an oblique
reference to something? Or am I being daft?

I would also like to send some massive love and
respect to Oon, who has sent me my very own pissing
boy. It truly is like a monkey boy who pees, as I was
promised. I shall love it and take very good care of
it Oon, I promise you.

Will 'A Night Of Tigermilking' be changing it's name
to 'A Night Of Walking Like Peasants' now? Go on.

I'm going to get my hair cut. Bye.

Wanking like a pheasant,

Will x


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From acook at xxx.uk  Mon Mar 13 18:50:31 2000
From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:50:31 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Cut you hair son, you look like a hippy
Message-ID: <38CD3877.2B7E1316@cs.strath.ac.uk>

I know many of you are waiting with bated breath, or possibly some other
kind of breath, for the new and undoubtedly wonderful edition of
Trousercuts. As everyone knows, each issue features a Top Ten things of
the past few months, and if you don't agree with at least three of them
you are automatically removed from Sinister. Anyway, tired of waiting
and bored generally, 
I shall now offer my own top ten of the year so far. So here, in my
humble
opinion and in no particular order, they are:

1. The Private Diaries of Zeppo Marx.

These recently released diaries are quite beautifully written, and
chart the career, private life and torment of one of the twentieth
century's brightest stars. They also reveal the relationship of Zeppo
to the other Marx brothers, and their unfortunate jealousy of his
talents which threatened at times to tear the family apart. An extract
follows:

Jan 17, 1934.
"Since Chico plays an Italian, I thought it would be real funny if I
covered my face in boot polish and played a stupid African. However, the
studio execs say they feel my talents would be better put to use in the
role of the romantic lead. Those guys know squat about comedy."

2. The Second album by The Relaxation Effect, "The Windows Are The Eyes
To The House."

Ever since the release of their first album ("Postmodernism And Its
Effect On The Elbows") early last year I have been wetting my pants in
anticipation of this record. I have not been disappointed. Put simply,
this is a quite stunning crystallization of their ethos ("To make music
which is better than all the people who aren't as good as us."), and
left
me drained, confused, and very very happy. Singer Richard Praugroque's
lyrical talent seems to improve at an almost exponential rate, While
Guitarist Tom Hendrix (who changed his name after being "inspired by the
poignant loudness of the dead sixties guitarist Jimmy Hendrix. He opened
the door for a lot of young black musicians who were starting to
embrace, and be inspired by, the rock and roll music invented by Elvis
Presley.") weaves a Bayeux Tapestry of pure emotion, unmatched currently
in the music world. Their talents complement each other like shit and
flies, never more so than on the album's best track, "There's Only
Garbage
And You Left Inside Of My Soul". On this incredible number, Hendrix's
guitars seem to drift in and out of consciousness, creating a rainbow
palette of sound over which Praugroque sings some of his most plaintive
lyrics: "I can't believe you left me standing/Alone in the street
without a
head/You say that I'm just too demanding/But you know I'm a fucking
dynamo in bed." The Relaxation Effect are a rare jewel. Treasure them.

3. The decision by Scottish Passenger Transport to change the number of
the bus from Glasgow    to Milngavie from the 119 to the 109 every half
hour.

This bold move reinforces the role of the bus as an artistic statement
in
an increasingly mobile yet ultimately empty society, and not before
time.
Fifteen of the countries foremost mathematicians and twelve unemployed
philosophers came together to work on this project, which had a budget
of half a mllion pounds, and after six months they came up with this
number, based on the theories on Gauss, Keirkegaard and Monkhouse. Some
critics feel that 108 would have had a greater emotional impact, but I
for one think that 109 says more about the role of the bus in the 21st
century, and its paralleling of the journey of the soul. 109 ginves a
rare insight into the bus' mirroring of the body, as an ultimately empty
yet necessary vehicle. A
triumph.

4.  Richard Hixon: Stand-Up

These recently discovered tapes give us a fascinating glimpse into the
early career of former President of the United States Richard Nixon, as
a stand up comedian. As one would expect given his later career (which
he chose to pursue full time after much deliberating and an offer from
Las Vegas), politics is the topic of choice for much of his
performances, though this is undercut with some wonderfully witty
observational humour. A choice monologue follows:

"You know ladies and gentlemen, if there's one thing I hate its a liar.
Don't you? I have a friend who's a habitual liar. Can't stop himself.
This is a man who tell tales so tall they get signed up by the New York
Nicks! I mean, this man does so much lying, he never gets out of bed! Ha
ha, I
can see you know what I'm talking about, miss! But seriously folks..."

5. The new McDonalds advert

This is one of the best adverts I've seen on telly for many a year,
possibly even the greatest since Shake and Vac. If you think that's
going too far, well then that just tells you how genuinely excited I am
about this landmark commercial. For any of you who haven't seen it, it
features Ronald McDonald killing a cow with a automatic rifle, before
going to eat the raw flesh of the dead animal. However, just before he
puts the heart of the beast in his mouth, a McDonalds employee offers
him a Big Mac, and he decides to have that instead. It's always
wonderful to find that a company as large as Mcdonalds have the ability
not to take themselves too seriously, and for this they should be
applauded.

Hmm, this seems to be going on quite long and I'm hungry, so I'll give
you the next five in my next post, unless enough people beg me not to.
Bye.

Alasdair xx
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From nik_ovenden at xxx.com  Mon Mar 13 21:48:24 2000
From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:48:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: A heartfelt plea...any of you 1200 with compassion please read...
Message-ID: <20000313214824.1415.qmail@web2104.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello people, i have a confession and a plea to you
all

I was foolish enoigh to leave my all tomorrow's
booking to the last minute and now only 7-person bunks
are available - I only have 4 people willing to go!
If there is a group of three 16/17/18 year olds out
there with �105 and a way to get to the all
tomorrow's, do you want to share a bunk?  I'm sure
i'll get no reply and i'm sorry for cluttering your
board, but i (and my 3 associates) are desperate to
go!
If you could email me (nik_ovenden at yahoo.com) if you
are interested, you'll be saving my life.  If you
don't sorry again for hassling you.

Cheers, and hi to the wizard whom appears to be an
ooberman fan (ooberfan) - Come into the physics disco!

Yours,
Niko
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From secretmysterydate at xxx.com  Mon Mar 13 22:21:34 2000
From: secretmysterydate at xxx.com (brand new shoes)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:21:34 EST
Subject: Sinister: tomorrow night
Message-ID: <20000313222134.10474.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hello sinistereens!!

sorry for my so far consistant abuse of this list, but if anyone lives in 
the pittsburgh area and wanted to come and see me play, i will be at the 
Bloomfield Bridge Tavern, tomorrow night at around 9:00. You'll know me 
because I will be the youngest person there.

I will also be playing at the 31t Street pub with Kitty Pryde on thursday.

Um, just so I know, does anyone live in the pittsburgh area?

I guess if no one says yes I will no longer post this sort of message on 
here, as it would just be absolutely worthless.

Ummm, just to be a little b+s oriented, I wanted to reply to the question of 
our parents liking b+s. I gave my mom IYAFS for christmas this year and she 
loves it. my dad liked it too, but wouldn't admit it. I know he did b/c he 
always has pretty good taste and he didn't make a yucky face. For example, 
when I was a wee little boy of 3 years old, sitting in his office on the 
floor playing with his chess pieces, he would always play the cars and the 
velvet underground and the talking heads and blondie and stuff like that. i 
didn't know of course that this was so fab then, but now i see that my 
frumpy, philosopher dad is a way cool 55 year old hipster.

umm, enough props for my dad now i guess. i was just thinking bout him 
because he has a book coming out and i am very very proud (you philosophers 
out there should look for it, it will be called "deconstruction as analytic 
philosophy" by Sam Wheeler (that's right, i have a number after my name)) 
okay, this time i mean it, no more dad.
ummm, oh! i am very upset because i just found that i lost my kaia cd 
somewhere between NYC and here. now i have to buy it again and that just 
doesn't seems fair. doesn't it seem like you should get the second copy free 
and the n maybe if you lose that you should have to pay? grr. I have a 
policy of only buying a cd three times, if i lose it after that, it wasn't 
meant to be.
okay,
I have to run off to get some coffee, so keep the love lines open and i hope 
all of your days are lovely today, though it is a bit cloudy here.
love,
sam
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From vilkas at xxx.com  Tue Mar 14 07:13:41 2000
From: vilkas at xxx.com (Vilkas D'Angelo-Horvath)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 03:13:41 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Love from Apt #665, the neighbor of the beast. 
Message-ID: <200003140808.DAA00951@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>

I think I like it here said the newborn sinestarian. 

So this is my first obligatory ³I listen to Belle & Sebastian and now I feel
like a song cos my heart is broke² post.  I ran into the young man who broke
my heart in a small way.  Just a big enough heartbreak to hurt, small enough
to not be there as so much until he shows up in front of me in my own space.
He¹s clueless, I think. Actually he¹s completely non-communicative so I¹m
clueless as to what he¹s thinking. I just don¹t even want to talk to him
unless I can really talk to him. Smalltalk just reinforces anything. But
he¹s still *remarkably* attractive (damn, he¹s fine) and pretty nice(
polite, cordial, cracks a joke). Boys got cooties. Still more porter to be
drunk.  Puleeease, can I wallow more: Verve¹s The Drugs Don¹t Work Came on
the radio. Fucking most depressing song ever. Sad songs on the radio. Still
nice tho. 

Q: Why don¹t the Verve ever drink tea or coffee?
A:  Cos the mugs don¹t work. 

Q: What do you call cheese that does not belong to you?
A:  Nacho cheese (Spoken ŒNot yo cheese¹)

I think the cover of the FYHCYWLAP looks similar to Arab Strap¹s Mad for
Sadness thingy. 

BTW what record is Twattybus, I¹ve missed it. TBWTAS? huh?

They make jaffa cakes in raspberry too. I went grocery shopping today, I
never buy sweets at the grocery (the Cornholio effect). I bought one
raspberry and one orange jaffa cake. Damn you sinesterians and you
subliminal jaffa cake suggestions. These one particular types are from
Belgium and aren¹t called jaffa cakes specifically; they are the
cookie/biscuit thing with the orange (or raspberry) fruit thing and the
chocolate covering. This counts yes? Yummmmm..........

Jason Andreas. In response to you post a bit ago; I¹m your new list crush.
Didn¹t you know?  Meowwww.

Alasdair,  this is a real Mickey Dees ad?

The kids are all right from bowlie?! Or Mogwai from Bowlie or anywhere! Who
has this and will trade me for either anything live or blanks? I have a
freakin¹ smorgasboard of titles (of others than B&S, only a few by our fair
citizens. I do have the Black Sessions Video tho¹. + BBC stuff
videos...hmmm.....)

So I¹m reading the bowlie postcards somewhere on nme(pronounced enemy.
hmmm....) do you even know how much I wish I was could¹ve been there. blues
explosion, sleater-kinney, bell and sebastian , mogwai...jeebus, I could go
on. 

³The omnipresent Mogwai...prove triumphantly that playing slow is the new
playing fast for today's genuine Punk Rock upstarts.² some guy from that
site said this. I agree. 

Ok, to Alix, I lurrve Travis, Sharleen,  Gomez, etc....BUT ... I am not
bombarded with them 24 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year. I might
feel differently then. I feel the same way about New Country music: Shania
Twain is the worst form of the spawn of Satan. If you don¹t know, you need
not put yourself through the suffering. I think one need to have an
appreciation of the greatful dead to like gomez. I have this. However I¹m
seeing Travis in a month of so with general admission: I wanna be in the
front of the crowd just so I can yell Irnnnn-Bruuuuu to the stage...Just
kidding (maybe>:)). I have the loudest yell ever. Not as musical as just
loud as hell. Really, this is not an exaggeration. This is a source of
pride. 

I like Kelis too, she sounds like a hiphop riot grrl. Have i just proved
myself a bigger dork or a cooler indierock chick? 

            Sweet lovin¹ fresh baked from the kitty cat¹s own oven, Vilkas. 



P.S. Any sinestarians from P.R.China?
P.S.#2 Any other benevolent dictators yet?
P.S. #3 Who wants me to start a juicy, sexual, completely unfounded rumour
about them? I¹ll make it good.
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From bellezc at xxx.com  Tue Mar 14 13:15:27 2000
From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 05:15:27 PST
Subject: Sinister: do androids dream of electric sheep?
Message-ID: <20000314131527.66308.qmail@hotmail.com>

i think this title is just grrrrrrrreat....
hello people!!!i am bored.a friend told me that us greeks when we use the 
word bored we always mean that we feel like shit;that we always use it with 
a negative meaning whereas the word bored means that there is nothing to 
do-but this doesn't mean that it's bad.Although i think that if there is 
nothing to do then you're in deep shit-a.k.a. it IS bad not having anything 
to do....get it?

the village seems to go fine.still trying to think of a flick subject.
just watched Blade Runner-that WAS my morning lecture.no,really...The other 
night i spend it making a mix-B&S tape for a friend.i don't know if she's 
going to like them...hope she does.OH,yer,on Friday I went out with a couple 
of friends in Birmingham.We went to this club called
'Edwards No8'.It was quite OK(i mean the guy did play 
Pavement,Beck,Pixies...he even played Puressence!!!).I was wearing my 
Sinister T-shirt and these 2 girls came up to me asking me about the band 
and All Tommorrow's Parties 'cause they thought B&S were playing there.They 
asked me about the BOwlie as well but I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY 'CAUSE I 
WASN'T THERE!!!!!SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB!!!!!!!!!!
And then i go to the toilet and as soon as i open the door this girl turns 
around pointing at me going "WOW!!!!BELLE&SEBASTIAN!!!!!!!!YOU'RE THE 
COOLEST PERSON IN THE CLUB!!!!"...it was scary i'm telling ya all!!
It was nice but i wish they were blokes instead...you know....heh...
A friend gave me a tape and there are a couple of songs from the new 
Lambchop album,'NIXON'.I'll definitely buy it and i suggest you people 
should as well...i mean those two songs are gorgeous!!!!!

oh,yer i went to see the Wannadies on saturday.Soulwax were supporting 
them.Soulwax were as good as the firts time i saw them-damn,there new single 
was out yesterday-and the wannadies were better than what i expected!!!!i 
really really enjoyed them!!!it's good to listen to light catchy  happy pop 
every now and again....

anyway,got to go babies....i love you all...all 1200 of you...
Bye bye,zoe the sheep...
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From hewits at xxx.uk  Tue Mar 14 13:52:39 2000
From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:52:39 -0000
Subject: Sinister: And, they're off!!
Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB69F05767@park_ex>

and I'm not talking about my pants!

Today sees the start of the "best horse racing event in the world"
(copyright Channel 4), the Cheltenham Gold Cup Meeting, here in my home
town.

Looking through the form for suitable sinister/b&s names, it's little thin
on the ground today but there are a few (somewhat tangential) ones:

3.15 "Katarino" (after our friendly merch seller) definately an each-way bet
this one or possibly "Mr Percy" for the gentleman with the tummy banana on
the body parts 

3.55 Possibly the best named horse of the day, it's "Niki Dee", which seldom
runs a bad race according to the racing post, but is facing stiff
competition from "Star Traveller" especially with our own dear Starry making
that big trip to Nude York.

4.30 features "Honey Mount" at 10 - 1, say no more

Unfortunately no horses called FELCHYPLOPS or FISHYCLAPS or FUCKYLAP or arms
of sex or cellistwithabigarse, but there you go...

As i will be away from my pooter for the rest of the week, I'm afraid I
won't be able to give you any tips for the next couple of days, but Florida
Pearl would be my each way choice for the big one on thursday.


Anywayhoo, I had a lovely weekend in Glasgow and went to see bands
(something of a rarity for me these days, i've only been to FIVE gigs (not
gigs where 5ive are playing) this year) and drank BOOZE and danced like a
silly person at fury marys.  Much thanks and all round lovleyness, as
always, to Ally and Ailsa, whose mission seems to be to ply me with copious
quantities of alcohol every time i step within the metropolitan area of
Glasgow.

I will now be hibernating until my appearance at Camber Sands, unless i win
the tote placepot tomorrow...

xoxo

CarsmileSteve



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From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk  Tue Mar 14 14:29:24 2000
From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:29:24 -0000
Subject: Sinister: His usual diplomatic, coherent self
In-Reply-To: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22DB389D@SERVER1>
Message-ID: <E12UsKa-0006rP-00@nottingham.ac.uk>

Hullo

Mark Casarotto, sniggering at the back, said

>Robin S - no matter how much you pretend, the truth is seeping out 
>about your sordid sex secret. Does that make Arantxa a "raving 
>lesbo ho"?


	Well, I was told at the weekend that the word "stout" in 
Flemish, means "naughty", so perhaps you're right. When I first 
read the above sentence I read "of" instead of "about", making me 
think that Mark's filthy mind had finally gone too far. Or maybe it's 
just my filthy mind. And as you ask, Arantxa is a "raving lesbo ho" - 
you should see her dyke skees.

Stefan said:

>I think he must be a religious person, because
>when I passed him a few minutes ago to go to the toilet, I happened 
>to notice the gigantic Christian cross on his screen. He was trying 
>to cut it down to a certain size, but for what purpose exactly I don't 
>know, and I didn't dare ask him. Maybe he was a priest in disguise, 
>or just someone obsessed with crosses.

	Or maybe he was being stalked by vampires. VAMPIRES!!! 
Arrrgggghhhhhh!!!!!

	Then he talked about Johnny Cash's ring of fire. This song 
reminds me of my rather tragic Willenium night when we were 
standing in the pouring rain in London, next to the not-working-yet 
Millenium wheel singing "Ring of Fire" to keep our spirits up. "Oooh, 
lads" said Bert "I've got a burning ring of fire", and we all huddled 
around him to keep warm. We sang "Ring of Fire" almost non-stop 
for about an hour and a half, waiting for some rubbish fireworks. 
What a great night. I won't be doing that next Willenium.

	I went out last night, with a boy called John who lives round 
here and likes Belle and Sebastian. We went to a little pub and gave 
each other tapes and talked about things. John turned out to be very 
nice. Then the barman, whose mullet was the size of a Davy 
Crockett hat, roped us into a pub quiz. We were Table 1 and the quiz 
was apparently about 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s pop music, but it 
mostly seemed to be about what the barman called Supergroups. 
The barman and his dirty wife kept winking at us the whole time. 
"Here's a classic song from a famous Supergroup", the barman 
would say, winking at us and jangling his hand in his pocket, as if to 
say, "this one's for the young 'uns." We'd write Godspeed You 
Black Emperor! and the answer would be Status Quo. In the end we 
made a slightly hasty exit mid-quiz, while the barman and his dirty 
wife winked furiously to try and keep us in their clutches. As I left I 
could already feel my trousers tightening, and hair beginning to 
grow down the back of my neck. It was a near escape...

	Trying to work out if Alasdair is a comedy genius, or just 
plain bonkers..
		Robin x
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From pinefox at xxx.com  Tue Mar 14 15:14:51 2000
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:14:51 GMT
Subject: Sinister: three, six, nine minutes alight
Message-ID: <20000314151451.22805.qmail@hotmail.com>


I was just looking at Johnny Rogan's contribution to that series of livres 
de poche about the total oeuvre of a band. Christ, it must have been the 
easiest book to write in the whole history of writing. Anyway, loads of 
second-hand info, but I found a thing or two I'd never seen before about 
'The Queen Is Dead'.

1. Marr played a 'one-take solo' which left him 'shaking'. Is the solo on 
the record? Maybe; maybe he means the instrumental journey at the end. Would 
you have been shaking after playing it? I would.

2. He was 'fantastic', playing 'blindingly... he went on for 8 or 9 
minutes', says Stephen Street. 'There was loads more on the 24-track but it 
seemed a bit long so we cut it down'. 8 or 9 minutes as against the 6:23 (?) 
of the record; or 8 or 9 minutes extra, unused material? Should it have been 
cut? Should an uncut or recut version be released? I think so. I mean, the 
master tapes of all these old records all still out there somewhere: witness 
'Classic Albums'. Someone has got to make a programme on this and play *the 
entire 9-minute guitar track*.

Agreed?

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From dchard at xxx.ca  Tue Mar 14 16:58:42 2000
From: dchard at xxx.ca (ipecac spice)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:58:42 -0400 (AST)
Subject: Sinister: did you pass me just to slow down?
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.1000314124536.13806B-100000@is2.dal.ca>

hi everyone. i'm still stuck in the land of superchunk. there seems to be
a bit of a drought lately. so, i thought i would write a little post. 

i've been looking for the box set, but canada seems to be deprived of it.
maybe i'll just have to get around to buying all the singles separately. i
asked at a couple of record stores about the box set and the poor people
didn't even know of belle & sebastian, let alone the box set.

saturday night was the birthday party at my university bar. CHEAP drinks!
it's the event i've been looking fwd to for ages. but luck me came down
with the stomach flu that very afternoon. i insisted on going, but i only
managed to stay for just over an hour. i was in a miserable mood. you know
when you're sick and everyone keeps asking "are you ok?" and you know
they're just trying to show concern but you're so irritable that you just
want to snap "LOOK, YOU KNOW I'M FUCKING SICK! DO YOU THINK I FEEL OK?"
and then punch them and burst into tears? well that was how i felt, so i
went home early to puke and sleep. 

i was also mocked a great deal by my friends jeff and catherine. jeff
thinks he knows everything just b/c he's married! but i was too sick to
even put up a fight. see, jeff thinks i only go for mean guys. but this is
not true. i don't know why it never occurs to anyone that perhaps i am
actually a mean girl. i kind of am in relationships actually. i try not to
be, but i have high expectations. i just want a guy i can be proud of.
usually i am embarassed of them. is there any solution to this problem?
how can i stop being embarrassed of my b/fs? how can i get an
unembarrassing guy to like me? i don't even really want a b/f right now,
but when i do want one i want to be friends with them first. that way i
really can go in with my eyes wide open and not be blinded by the love and
sex right at the start. that means i need to befriend a guy and
then...this seems like a long process. anyway. if you read this far you
are a wonderful and considerate person and i truly appreciate it.

-di


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From andrewt at xxx.com  Tue Mar 14 18:19:25 2000
From: andrewt at xxx.com (Andrew Tracey)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:19:25 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Riches to the masses
Message-ID: <972D216B1EF3D3119B7D00D0B70F6EEA1CB213@WROX3>

Well, well, well. Props to the boy Carsmile for: 

a) Remembering my Cheltenham/B+S thing from last year (New people can read
all about it in the archives from the middle of last March)

and 

b) Anticipating my laziness in not doing the same thing this year.

And what did Carsmile pick out...

3.15 - Katarino - Finished 7th, but was leading for a while until Istabraq
surged past her.

3.55 - Niki Dee - Didn't finish
         Star Traveller - 3rd

4.30 - Honey Mount - **1st**  Went clear coming up to the last fence then
did a 'stunning leap' (according to the Sporting Life) and romped home. It's
price was 8/1 but those of you clever enough to get on as soon as you read
Steve's post could have got the 10/1.

Assuming a tenner on each horse:

Staked £40
Won    £110
Profit   £70

Spend it wisely children.

Seeing as Carsmile is away for a couple of days, I've had a root through to
find you tomorrow's beer money.

2.00 - Solo Mio - Stuart D wanders off to play with himself.

2.35 - Celibate - So many of you moan about having no boy/girlfriend, you
must be this.

3.15 - Magic Combination - One band, one list, 1200-odd people.

3.55 - Soldat - Has BabyChris been able to say this of his auction stuff
yet?

4.30 - Mister One - Maybe another (less obvious) reference to Honey will
bring us more luck.

5.05 - Upgrade - As indeed Honey had to when we all moved to our new home.

5.40 - Joe Cullen - Not Booze Explosion's old man, surely?

I'll meet you all in your dad's potting shed where we can enjoy our illicit
bounty of absinthe and Jaffa cakes, purchased with our winnings.

Andrew (Sinister bookie - back prices given for a small fee)

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From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk  Tue Mar 14 19:32:44 2000
From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:32:44 +0000
Subject: Sinister: More theology vicar?
Message-ID: <802568A2.006BBDBA.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk>



> 3.55 - Niki Dee - Didn't finish

Hmm..  why doesn't this surprise me?

Robin Stout wondered:

> By the way, does anyone
>know what book Lazy Line Painter Jane has, on her e.p.? It looks
>like a textbook or something.

Eagle Eye Kerry helpfully replied:

>well, i'd never bothered to look before, but it appears to be
>something like "reason and reality" by john polkinghorne. if i had
>the 12" it would probably be easier to see.

Well here's a library catalogue record for it I got from the wonderful
www.copac.ac.uk:

Author(s):     Polkinghorne, J. C. (John Charlton), 1930-
Title Details:      Reason and reality : the relationship between science and
theology / John Polkinghorne
Publisher:     SPCK, 1991
Physical Desc.:     [144]p, pbk
ISBN/ISSN:     0281044872
Subject(s):    Religion related to, science
Religion and science - 1946-
Language:      English

Well done kerry.  I have no idea how you managed to make this out without the
12" or incredible image enhancement software like they have in police dramas.
Are you magic?

Sounds like a cracking read, anyway.  I can just picture Stuart discussing its
ramifications with the vicar over tea and chocolate fingers.

I've still no idea what the book on the front of the boxed set, sorry *slipcase*
is.  But the cover looks like it's  a maddeningly familiar imprint.

Has anyone else noticed how since Honey's been away, there have been no posts
from Peter Miller?  The rumour rumbles on.

In common with all right-minded folk, I'm greatly looking forward to Alasdair's
next five best things of 2000. My friends and I tried to come up with 2000
predictions for the year 2000, but we stalled on about no.684.  I'll have to
cross reference my list with Ally's to see how we're doing.

nick xx


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From melvisco at xxx.com  Wed Mar 15 04:20:55 2000
From: melvisco at xxx.com (molly dahl)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 00:20:55 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Dancing in my kitchen.
Message-ID: <33720EF8AF9F3D1178D30005B8D278D4@melvisco.francemail.com>

Hello All!

I must say that I have been released from the nursery, and oh how exciting it is.   I tried to send a message last night while I was procrastinating (my favorite pastime), but my computer was giving me beef.  So it goes.  I'm a university student in Buffalo, New York.  Exciting tidbit of the day:  I most likely will be going to see the Cure in Toronto on June 12th! 

In reference to idle berry and Sam mentioning parents liking B&S, I must say that the other night, I was singing and dancing along to "Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying" while washing dishes, and my father popped in the kitchen and sad, "Molly, I really do like this band."  It made me happy.

I do have a question, however:  Me, being the silly American girl, doesn't know  how much a dollar would transalte in to an English pound.  I'd like to purchase some B&S badges, yet I'm unaware of how much it is in American $.  If anyone could shed some light on this, I'd be most appreciative.

Alas, I must cease my procrastination and continue studying for my Spanish test.  Pish posh.... who needs the present perfect subjunctive?

allsmelove,
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From melvisco at xxx.com  Wed Mar 15 04:21:08 2000
From: melvisco at xxx.com (molly dahl)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 00:21:08 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Dancing in my kitchen.
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Hello All!

I must say that I have been released from the nursery, and oh how exciting it is.   I tried to send a message last night while I was procrastinating (my favorite pastime), but my computer was giving me beef.  So it goes.  I'm a university student in Buffalo, New York.  Exciting tidbit of the day:  I most likely will be going to see the Cure in Toronto on June 12th! 

In reference to idle berry and Sam mentioning parents liking B&S, I must say that the other night, I was singing and dancing along to "Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying" while washing dishes, and my father popped in the kitchen and sad, "Molly, I really do like this band."  It made me happy.

I do have a question, however:  Me, being the silly American girl, doesn't know  how much a dollar would transalte in to an English pound.  I'd like to purchase some B&S badges, yet I'm unaware of how much it is in American $.  If anyone could shed some light on this, I'd be most appreciative.

Alas, I must cease my procrastination and continue studying for my Spanish test.  Pish posh.... who needs the present perfect subjunctive?

allsmelove,
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From 50158120 at xxx.hk  Wed Mar 15 07:00:48 2000
From: 50158120 at xxx.hk (Toby Chan)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:00:48 +0800
Subject: Sinister: Music in Slipcase (Nothing but B n S content)
Message-ID: <953103648.mailspinnerdV3.2.5.3@plsmtp.cityu.edu.hk>

Hey Girls Hey Boys!!!!

Reported from HONG KONG, 

Good evening, it is Toby Chan from Hong Kong, the tall and thin boy
who think his Large size B n S tee "Support the Clydeside..." is 
talior-
made for him.

I bought the Box Set at the release day. It is a MATADOR release, so
it is the US edition.

Ok, then, two days after, my mates bought the UK edition with FREE
POSTCARDS 1-2GBP cheaper than MINE!!!!! oh god... 

Put i am now very happy for my Orange B n S Tee and my Badges!!!!
Yeah YEah YEAh YEAH!!!!

I really wanna use B n S song in my Final Year Project, a 15mins video
bout an Indie kid meet his ex-teammate of swimming team, a jelly fish
and a woman plays Satie... but the Rights is hard to clear....
and i huv no money...

Toby..


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From secretmysterydate at xxx.com  Wed Mar 15 08:01:44 2000
From: secretmysterydate at xxx.com (brand new shoes)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 03:01:44 EST
Subject: Sinister: skippy cd's die die die!!!
Message-ID: <20000315080144.68420.qmail@hotmail.com>

grrrrr!
okay a short bit of b+s trouble:

i was puttering along in my little red ford escort wagon today, listening to 
Tigermilk on my hacked together disc-man/car cd player, and right in the 
middle of "expectations" it started skipping!!!

this was unacceptable, so of course i had to skip to "she's losing it" and 
that was skippy too!! the rest of the cd was just as bad, all of the songs 
except for TSTIAI were completely ruined!!!!
Of course the only logical thing to do was run and buy it again.
which leads me to a strange b+s mishap...
	at Randy's Alternative Music, a soon to be out of business cd shop on the 
south side of Pittsburgh, i found Tigermilk in the used bin.
What the hell is that!?? Someone actually sold it? It was lucky for me, but 
just think of the poor sap who sold it...
				I picture them one of two ways:
1.) they are a complete fool. end of story.
2.) they were 3$ short money for a operation on their kitten, who was 
deathly ill, and, having sold everything else, including the very clothes on 
their back, this poor desperate soul crawled (you see he crawls because he 
is so week from not buying food for so long, to save money for the kitten), 
butt naked, into Randy's Alternative Music, holding in his hand his last 
earthly possession, his Tigermilk cd. Crying like a mother forced to part 
with her baby, the man shamefully took the 3$ and dragged himself to the 
vet.There, with the money from that cd, the vet agreed to save the kitten, 
who is now sitting with his owner, in a completely barren apartment, 
thinking "without Tigermilk, he might as well have let me die"

this would redeem the seller.
however, i must thank them because now i have a skip free cd to carry me 
into the beginning of spring.
that's all for now. I'm off to sleep for now.
sweet dreams everyone,
love
sam
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From secretmysterydate at xxx.com  Wed Mar 15 08:08:48 2000
From: secretmysterydate at xxx.com (brand new shoes)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 03:08:48 EST
Subject: Sinister: one more
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i forgot one thing,
(my, but today was so b+s-filled)
at the show tonight, i had time for one more song at the end of my set, so i 
played "is it wicked not to care", it went well, though my voice not nearly 
that cute, and it was just me on an acoustic instead of the whole band. oh 
well, i hope it didn't adulterate it. that's all. i thought i ought to 
mention it.
finally i am out,
sleep tight
sam
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From paularathoon at xxx.com  Wed Mar 15 13:26:25 2000
From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:26:25 GMT
Subject: Sinister: panic on the streets on Manchester*
Message-ID: <20000315132625.67450.qmail@hotmail.com>

Is it me or do all bouncers have a pre-disposed tendency for violence and 
irrationality?(the 2 being an unfortunate combination)Last night my 
housemate was thrown out of a shitty student dive called Robinskis and the 
bouncers were basically trying to have a fight with him and the manager hit 
him in the face so it was nicely swollen this morning.
Grrr I am quite angry about it becuase it started with a mere 
misunderstanding when a barman threw his pint away for some obscure reason 
and 5 mins later there was fighting in the streets.

having said that I did hear about a fight between 2 students that happened 
becuase one dared to say the other didn't have enough knowledge about pie 
makers' marques and then said the other had a shit hat.So violence can be 
funny
Spurious B&S content: 4 people asked me why my badge was upside down last 
night. the same 4 had the same look of confusion on their faces when I 
turned it around.

Back to work
Paul
p.s. I loathe to use this title because i HATE the Smiths but it seems 
appropriate. The reason i hate the smiths is becuase a)morrisseys "singing" 
and b)most of their songs aren't bluddy grate or even near it
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From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com  Wed Mar 15 14:36:20 2000
From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:36:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: HORSE KNOB OUTRAGE
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the subject line is one of thgose combinations of
words which makes people laugh uncontrolably, for no
reason. like arse muscles damage nappies.

Reall cool stuuf has happened.
1) - I might (MIGHT) be playing at king tuts.
      a band I was in are playing there soon, and they
need an extra member to play live, to do keyboards and
an extra guitar part for some songs. So as I haven't
played the keyboard 4 a while, they want to see how I
am at it. If I'm any good, I'll be playing. yay.
KICKASS.

TO NON SCOTS, KING TUTS is a venue in glasgow where
oasis where signed by alan mcgee.

GEE.

H!O!T! thgings. I burnt by cinamon (narrow
wizzard)grahams in chemistry earlier. then I tried to
dissolve them in acid, but it just didn't work. ah
fec. instead, I got an acid burn in my left forearm.
'twas sore.

the auction is still on, people. thanx 4 your generous
bids so far. it finishes on saturday. If anyone has
lost the urls, just mail me 4 them.


cheerio, and may god protect YOUR homes.

chris

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From andrewt at xxx.com  Wed Mar 15 18:28:47 2000
From: andrewt at xxx.com (Andrew Tracey)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:28:47 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Straight from the horse's arse
Message-ID: <972D216B1EF3D3119B7D00D0B70F6EEA1CB21D@WROX3>

Hey up peeps

So, what hand did Lady Luck deal the Sinister betting collective today.
Let's have a peek at her cards and see.

2.00 - Solo Mio - Finished 6th
2.35 - Celibate - Finished 6th
3.15 - Magic Combination - Finished 15th (This isn't going too well)
3.55 - Soldat - Finished 6th
4.30 - Mister One - Finished 3rd (Closer, but no cigar)
5.05 - Upgrade - Finished 6th (Another 6th!!! Blooming hell)
5.40 - Joe Cullen - WON - 14/1 (Yayyyy, Milky Bars are on me)

So Booze Explosion's old man gets us out of trouble - the Sinister kitty
(miaow) should now stand at 150 pounds (if you've been following
instructions).

Onwards, upwards - tomorrow beckons.

2.00 - Bring Sweets - Yes Erica, that means you
2.35 - Lady Rebecca - Miss Popgirl forsakes her 'k' to facilitate a
selection
3.15 - Florida Pearl - We used up See More Business and Go Ballistic last
year so we'll go for Carsmiles's 'fancy'
3.55 - Manhattan Rainbow - Honey's in the Big Apple (does that make him a
maggot???)
4.30 - Carandrew - Slight self indulgence (I don't even drive)
5.05 - Good Vibes - Will no doubt be scarce by now after seeing the first
five horses come nowhere
5.40 - Lord Of Love - Finally Mr Miller makes an appearence

Till tomorrow

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From ksgljl78 at xxx.net  Wed Mar 15 19:31:53 2000
From: ksgljl78 at xxx.net (jason luther)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:31:53 -0500
Subject: Sinister: frozen in fear everytime you appear
Message-ID: <000c01bf8eb5$1f7be020$82891b26@oemcomputer>

who can tell me where that subject line comes form, huh?
okay, well. i havent writen in a while because, well, my life sucks and
nothing exciting has been happening. alhtough i have began dating this girl
that i met through a friend. well actually we met one night while bowling,
and she was very very plastered, and falling over me and such. despite her
drunken condition, i could tell she was someone i would concider dating (im
very picky), and we have been since. i guess shes my girlfriend now, but its
wierd to say 'i have a girlfriend', its always weird to say that for the
first few weeks, when youve been alone for quite some time. but i like her,
i like her a lot. im sure you all care to hear that, but tough  :-)
    the other night i went out to see my ex girlfriend, who lives in ann
arbor, michigan, about 45 minutes from my house. now, i havent seen her in
like a month,nor have i talked to her in like 2 weeks, which is pretty
strange. she was the person who introduced me to belle and sebastian, so she
always hold a special place in my heart heh heh. but anyways, it was kind of
discerning becuase it seemed like we had nothing to talk about, and i feel
as if im loosing a good friend. sigh, good friends are so hard to come by. i
was mainly concerned for her well being, becasue i hurt her pretty badly
when i ended things, and stilll feel like a piece of shit for doing it. but
she too has found someone else, and that is nice, it makes me feel better,
as selfish as that sounds.
    but another good thing that comes from visiting ann arbor, is all of the
cool music shops!!. i had some extra cash so decided to buy some albums. per
all of your suggestions, i got yo la tengos 'our hearts beating as one' or
something like that, i must say its pretty good. i also found a sparklehorse
album that was released in like 1995, i thought 'good morning spider' was
their only album, so i was quite excited to find another, and it is quite
good too. and finally, i got becks 'cold brains' import. and holy shit it is
BLOODY GRATE!!!! if you like 'mutations' (and i know i do), youll love this,
its fucking awesome.
    okay i have a question ( if it isnt too personal), whatare the songs
everyone lost their virginity to (or would like to, i dont want to
discriminate)? mine is one 'hand in my pocket' by alanis. in some weird way,
i think its kinda appropriete.. okay........

so with one hand in MY pocket, i bid you goodbye

jason with the heart of glass


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From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com  Wed Mar 15 21:38:26 2000
From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:38:26 GMT
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <20000315213826.4386.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hello all once more.

This is my second post, and my first proper(?) one following the obligatory 
"look and me! I've left the nursery (it makes up for the short-comings of 
being poor)" starter post. Apologies for that pun by the way, I'm afraid I'm 
just in that kind of mood this evening.

I'm writing for a couple of reasons, most of them B&S related. Did anyone 
see the NME this week (with the 'leglaise pot front cover')? Well, it had in 
it a rather splendid letter taking down Sarah Dempster, the journalist who 
rubbished the EPs when they were released a couple of weeks ago. The letter 
basically said that people don't just like B&S cos they're kinda enigmatic 
and avoid publicity, but because the music makes them happy. This is totally 
true. I bought the EPs the other day, and songs like SBJ, DOW and LPDLB may 
not have the most uplifting lyrical content, but the song as a whole still 
make me grin like an idiot in public, and subsequently get dodgy looks all 
round. Which is great (spelt correctly).

I notice there is another Sam on list, and before congratulating him/her for 
his/her wonderful name (blahblahblah), I'd just like to say that I'll be 
SamW from now on just to identify myself. Not that anyone really needs me to 
identify myself, I'm just slightly anal like that.

So I think that's about it for now. I'd love to say something really thought 
provoking, but I'm never terribly inspired, at the best of times....

Love and tracker bars,

SamW.x

P.S. Jason Luther was asking about people's virginity. I will happily admit 
here and now, that I am seventeen and still a v. I'm afraid I have Dawson 
Leary-style hang ups about being in love before hand, which is rather 
obsessive etc and not terribly macho, but there you go. But as for music, I 
know it's a cliche, but Marvin Gaye I always thought would be rather nice.
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From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com  Wed Mar 15 21:39:06 2000
From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:39:06 GMT
Subject: Sinister: (b)anality in his second offering...
Message-ID: <20000315213906.55795.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hello all once more.

This is my second post, and my first proper(?) one following the obligatory 
"look and me! I've left the nursery (it makes up for the short-comings of 
being poor)" starter post. Apologies for that pun by the way, I'm afraid I'm 
just in that kind of mood this evening.

I'm writing for a couple of reasons, most of them B&S related. Did anyone 
see the NME this week (with the 'leglaise pot front cover')? Well, it had in 
it a rather splendid letter taking down Sarah Dempster, the journalist who 
rubbished the EPs when they were released a couple of weeks ago. The letter 
basically said that people don't just like B&S cos they're kinda enigmatic 
and avoid publicity, but because the music makes them happy. This is totally 
true. I bought the EPs the other day, and songs like SBJ, DOW and LPDLB may 
not have the most uplifting lyrical content, but the song as a whole still 
make me grin like an idiot in public, and subsequently get dodgy looks all 
round. Which is great (spelt correctly).

I notice there is another Sam on list, and before congratulating him/her for 
his/her wonderful name (blahblahblah), I'd just like to say that I'll be 
SamW from now on just to identify myself. Not that anyone really needs me to 
identify myself, I'm just slightly anal like that.

So I think that's about it for now. I'd love to say something really thought 
provoking, but I'm never terribly inspired, at the best of times....

Love and tracker bars,

SamW.x

P.S. Jason Luther was asking about people's virginity. I will happily admit 
here and now, that I am seventeen and still a v. I'm afraid I have Dawson 
Leary-style hang ups about being in love before hand, which is rather 
obsessive etc and not terribly macho, but there you go. But as for music, I 
know it's a cliche, but Marvin Gaye I always thought would be rather nice.
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From secretmysterydate at xxx.com  Thu Mar 16 07:22:11 2000
From: secretmysterydate at xxx.com (brand new shoes)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 02:22:11 EST
Subject: Sinister: unlocking the mystery
Message-ID: <20000316072211.45819.qmail@hotmail.com>

okay all,
I don't know if this has been worn into the ground yet, but on the off 
chance that it is still interesting, I have what i believe is the solution 
to the FYHCYWLAP title:

In finishing school, when a girl is being taught how to be a lady, she is 
told many things about posture and stance and how to move about. One of the 
things they learn is to fold their hands in front of them, one on top of the 
other, placed somewhere at the top of the tummy. This is how a lady walks. A 
girl walking with her hands at her sides or flailing about is walking like a 
peasant. I imagine that the title would be a scolding from a Lady to her 
child or pupil. You can see girls walking like this in victorian period 
pieces or paintings of high society from the end of the 19th century...

I hope this wasn't redundant. To pat B+S on the back, (as i am sure they 
need it), i think that this is a way cool reference and it's subtlety is 
perfect.
okay, i am late for a studio meeting so i must run off.
love,
sam
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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Thu Mar 16 02:30:12 2000
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 02:30:12 +0000
Subject: Sinister: crazy line painter sane
Message-ID: <200003160231.CAA27805@missprint.org>

Hi, don't really have anything specific to write about at the moment
but I thought I'll write to sinister cos I'm feeling a bit crap at
the moment and it's like 1:45am and I have no one to talk to :-(

I don't even know why I'm feeling so bad.. I think it's because I've
drunk loads of red bull and coca-cola this afternoon which made me
really happy and energetic, and now it's payback time (I always have
this theory that happiness is like a bank balance that if you take
an overdraft you'd have to pay it back with interest eventually)

Or maybe it's just the piles and piles of work that I'd have to do,
absolutely tonnes and all to be finished by this fri/next tue... I
hope this will not ruin my plans for St. Patrick's day this fri when
I plan to have a few drinks with my friends back home in Milton Keynes.

Or it could be because I saw a girl whom I really like in the hall
earlier but I was too shy to talk to her.. I really don't know why.. 
I sometimes does juggling shows, and I can do juggling in front of 
like 200 people and I am fine but I can't even talk to some girl.

Or it could be that the OK Computer album by Radiohead is a little bit
depressing, but then it's a lovely album so I have to listen to it.

Sorry this is probably a blatant list abuse, but honey isn't here so 
hahahhahahahha evil powers rule... and of course the faq said if the 
mail is witty then it's fine so the cunning subject line will hopefully 
save my backside.

Think I'll go to bed now actually .. with any luck tomorrow is bound 
to be less boring/crap than today.

B&S content if the above line is anything to go by.. well you probably 
all know actually but rumour has it that B&S are playing in glastonbury. 
(in the rumour page of http://www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk site)

Cheers
Ken (Sinister Villiage Outlaw Renegade Go-ped rider)
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From seilsd at xxx.net  Thu Mar 16 05:25:44 2000
From: seilsd at xxx.net (Damon Seils)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 00:25:44 -0500
Subject: Sinister: squawk!
Message-ID: <38D07059.6B064456@earthlink.net>


Hello, my streak-free mirror.

Starry, my lovely betrothed and mother of my three or four children,
seems to have sent me the Poetry Parrot. And to think all I wanted was
never to see it again.

Here are two poems. The first one is by Eric LeMay. The second is by
Nick Flynn. They're both probably sort of... Well, I don't know. I'm not
handling the quality control here. I'm tired, and these poems might be a
bit of passionless wank.

(Oh, and the bird will next visit Cyberglam Julie. She glows.)

Damo.

- - - - - - -

I Am Beautiful

(after the sculpture by Rodin, also titled The Abduction)

SHE Before the marble chiseled from us left
    one form, for those who must concern themselves
    with form, we were alone in that whiteness.
    Do you remember? Rigid as my arms
    may be, I remember embrace, the tense
    ripple of your buttocks, your spine's length
    a ladder on fire. But you convince yourself
    otherwise, that I am base, assuming,
    settled, am no more than a sated child.
    Poised and set below me, you are weary
    as a sculptor when asked what form lies
    within a stone's center, a weariness
    I cannot, formed of a moment's loving, break.
    Held aloft, I will never come down.

HE  What I remember most is the air, its shift
    across my chest, its steady crest and ebb
    over my groin, my sudden skin newborn,
    reacting in a curt, arrested pleasure.
    And I remember now, like a spasm,
    you pulled away with each splinter that fell,
    how you begged him for the cutting's end,
    for honoring the secret of the stone.
    So many years now. Do you still believe
    I would abandon you for his voyeur's touch?
    His attentions? Perhaps. Or is it you
    who feigns desire, who would prefer to shatter
    than stay? Know that we have buried the man
    who claimed us as his own. Know that this stone
    means always and bears only what it can.

- - - - - - -

You know, I can't even bear to type the Flynn poem in. That'll be all.

Damon
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From pants at xxx.com  Thu Mar 16 07:58:06 2000
From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 08:58:06 +0100
Subject: Sinister: plea for ATP
In-Reply-To: <38D07059.6B064456@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000316085806.03aa1970@shell12.ba.best.com>

oof.

we're in london for a only few days to play some music
and scope it out for a potential move...  our plan was to 
make it to ATP as well, but given our typical muddling,
unorganized, fiddle-dee-dee type lives, we don't have
any tickets...

so, this is a plea - if anyone can't make the festival,
even if just for a day or so and has TWO tickets, we'd
love to fill in and pay whatever...  we're american from 
San Fran, boy & girl, kinda quiet, don't bite, do artsy stuff 
outside of music, and have been scootering around milan
for a bit trying to kickstart wen's fashion stuff...

we're coming anyway, but it'd be SUPER cool if we could
figure out any way to see part of the festival.  if not,
we'll probably just let folks know when we're playing
to see if we could meet any fellow Sinisterites...

chris (aka Senor Droolcup)

PS: some of our sites... if you wanna screen us. ;)

BTW, I think one of our songs is coming out on the
Papercuts compilation to be released on 23 March (?) 

http://www.skratt.net/jinx
http://www.skratt.net
http://www.therescuers.net

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From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk  Thu Mar 16 13:06:29 2000
From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:06:29 +0000
Subject: Sinister: I'm the mummy now
Message-ID: <802568A4.00487BDB.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk>



No, I'm not at all, but I would like to take his mantle temporarily by
forwarding the latest instalment of Belle & Sebastian's band diary as published
in the "other Guardian".  It's Stuart's turn again.  He appears to be losing it.
And giving the impression that if only he hadn't got a cold, he'd be rescuing
thousands of flood victims in Mozambique.

In Nicholson Baker's 'The Mezzanine', the narrator discovers that he can only
overcome his self-consciousness at urinals by imagining himself pissing on top
of the person who is intimidating him.  Then things flow fine.  Do you think the
lady behond Stuart was more or less likely to buy the pie if he did it first?
Personally, I revel in giving people ideas in supermarkets, but then I'm a big
show off.  I feel silly when I pick up the same thing as someone else just has.
Unless it's a pretty girl, in which case I smirk at the thought that she might
be thinking I'm doing it to ingratiate myself.

"He looks like a spaceman, Marjory!"

 I like that.


Here it is...


DIARY OF A BAND
8th March 2000

There's something quite depressing about writing a diary. Writing's fun usually,
but simply recalling is a denial of this present moment, when, to be honest, I'd
rather be doing any of twenty other things. But I probably wouldn't do the other
things. I've been dreaming on the couch in between bouts of shivers and coughs,
fucked since Wednesday with some virus. "Give me a helicopter, and I'll get the
kids off the roof." It can't be that hard. Point it in the general direction of
Africa and let's go. Just stop fannying around.

Instead, my big thing yesterday was a trip to M&S in search of a ready-made
meal. It's a rubbish supermarket, it really is. Very Sixties, and strictly for
the over eighties. The bread's all designed to be sucked not chewed. I felt
watched. Some people can't pee when they're being watched. I can't shop. My
conceit knows no boundaries, but I have this feeling the lady behind me is
waiting to see if I go for a 'Cumberland Fish Pie' before she buys it. If
there's any of that I'm off. I'd rather leave the shop empty-handed. But I'll
probably just go round the aisle again, hover, then strike.

The fish pie was very nice, and the lady at the checkout was nice for a change.
In M&S, niceness is doled out on a strictly cash basis. I was walking pretty
slow and upright on account of my virus, and I had wrapped up, so my clothes had
a substantial quality which must have suggested to the lady that I was a
respectable man. I took my bank card out of my bus pass while she wasn't
looking, and it all helped. She was very chatty. Or maybe she was just nice. I
don't know. Usually the impression I get is that they think I've stumbled in by
mistake. Once, I happened to be wearing silver trousers, and a man, obviously
trying to overcome his wife's deafness, bellowed "He looks like a spaceman,
Marjory!" But I must have my fish pie.

Stuart Murdoch




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From lucy.alder at xxx.uk  Thu Mar 16 14:39:21 2000
From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:39:21 -0000
Subject: Sinister:  Hypotheses
Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F3353059@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk>

OK, so if I had to make a completely blind guess, I'd say this new album
title comes from a book by Frances Hodgson Burnett, author of children's
favourites Little Lord Fauntleroy, A Little Princess and The Secret Garden.
Let's examine the evidence:

Poor little rich girls - check
Rich little poor boys - check
Foxies, birdies, ickle creatures - check
Crippled friends - check
Opportunities for strict nannies, cruel teachers and gout-ridden uncles to
say "FYHCYWLAP" - check-a-plenty
Mysterious and strangely-behaving characters called Dickon - hold on, am I
getting muddled?

Alternatively...

(Early March.  The best band in the world, commonly known as Belle &
Sebastian are sitting round the kitchen table drinking tea and dunking
malted milk biscuits)

Rich:  What are those pesky Sinister kidz getting up to these days?
Mick:  Oh, you know, the usual crap.  They're not talking enough about us
these days though and it's just not on.
Izzywizzy:  Well, now the album's FINALLY finished, we can announce the
track listing and they can have fun trying to predict what the new songs
will sound like and expressing outrage that their favourite ones aren't
included.  Then we'll be able to spend hours and hours reading about
ourselves again.  Won't that be nice?  By the way, does my bum look big in
this?
Stevie:  Yes, it does.  But how can we announce the track listing when we
haven't even got an album title?

(All pause and stare gloomily into their mugs of tea, pondering stuff.  All
except for Stu, that is, who gazes in rapture at the fridge door)

Chris:  Have you seen that French bloke who's always at the Track & Field
club in London who looks just like me with very short hair?  (he looks up)
What's wrong with you, Stu?
Stu:  Who was playing with the magnetic poetry kit last?
Sarah:  I think it was wee Karn, back in the days when they came round for
tea and malted milks all the time, before Stu D became Too Big For This
Band.  Why do you ask?
Stu:  It says "fold your hands child, you walk like a peasant".  Folks, I
have a cunning plan.... 

(cue eerie and mysterious music as the other band members turn towards him
with puzzled expressions, wondering what on earth he could possibly mean)

Did you like the way I gave everybody a turn to speak?  Cos it's only fair,
like.  God, I'm bored...

Next time we see Nick D wearing his favourite citrussy jeans, let's all
shout out "He looks like a great big orange, Marjory!" cos that might be
fun, like.

Juicy Lucy 
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From topher at xxx.org  Thu Mar 16 18:00:22 2000
From: topher at xxx.org (Christopher Lanier)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:00:22 -0600
Subject: Sinister: topher is back !
Message-ID: <38D12136.F5BBE086@belleandsebastian.org>

Hello! I just wanted to say that I am so glad to be back on the list !
It has been such a long time.

I won't waste space and time by spilling out dumb things so Ill just say
hello to all my chums at #sinister.. you know who you are! *giggle*

If you havn't taken the time to join us on #sinister at irc, I suggest
you drop in for a chat sometime. We're all such nice people :)

Well it is time I ate some lunch and got ready for orchestra rehearsal
tonight.. we are playing with Emanuel Axe this Saturday! yay! take care
!

topher lanier

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From amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk  Thu Mar 16 18:48:15 2000
From: amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk (amy_jackson0)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:48:15 -0000
Subject: Sinister: i'm new so please be gentle with me...
Message-ID: <00ba01bf8f78$374e7780$29d5b0c2@tinypc>

hello everyone
i'm amy, aka littlebelle and i've literally just broken out of nursery and
i'm ready to cause havoc........not really, i'm quiet and shy really........
i've been reading your rather lovely messages fro a couple of weeks now,and
at first i was slightly bemused (sinister village?where?!!) but now i feel
at home.  as for b&s content, well i8 haven't got the slip case eps yet cos
i am broke and in need of a job (juggling four highers and babysitting has
it's ups and downs y'see...), but i'd like to work in the village......
s'pose i better tell you all a bit about myself....well i'm 16 and 5 months
old (best to be precise about these things), i love art and music mainly, eg
b&s, idlewild,travis,looper,mansun,shellac,sleater-kinney,ooberman,peeps
into fairyland,laeto,fretlin,the smiths,new order,otis redding,sam&dave, and
loads of others that would take even longer to mention......i have to admit
i have a fair love of 50's/60's soul music, as "sittin' on the dock of the
bay" by otis redding is one of my favourite ever songs...

a few hellos now......hi to mark who emailed me a few days ago, and to
bigdave if he's on the list and peter_panic and anyone else who knows me!!

well, shall leave you all alone now so you're not too bored of me already,
luv and orange jaffa cakes,
littlebelleXX

"i have spread my dreams under your feet
tread softly for you tread on my dreams"

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From dee at xxx.ie  Thu Mar 16 21:23:06 2000
From: dee at xxx.ie (Denise Power)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:23:06 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: the whole edinburgh thing
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10003162112260.26076-100000@karma.ucd.ie>


well guys, whattya know, there i was messing about on thecomputer one
night and this girl caroline hey mails me. Hey it said. Wanna go to
edinburgh? Yes yes yes I replied , frantically pressing lots of buttons
because I am a little unsure of how to operate the whole full screen talk
thing. In doingthis, i logged off, which must have looked like a cruel and
deliberate snub to the poor thing. Oh which reminds me, a girl called
Sarah suggested that we throw her a surprise party in mel's party with all
the guys ! i'm not joking ! Caroline will be so pleased, but ssssssssh
listy peoples don't ruin the marvellous surprise. Oh and if you see her ,
just try to keep a straight face because she knows nothing of the
surprise, she thinks the only surprise is me going to edinburgh with her,
which incidently we booked at an exorbitant price but who cares. Being
impulsive and rash and taking random holidays right before greek tests is
fun, way more fun than maintaining a semblance of tweeness 24 hours a day.
Oh and today I got my greek teacher in trouble by ratting on him to the
head of the department. No no, not about THAT, I merely said that he said
i had no linguistic ability which the head thought was a TERRIBLE thing to
say. I tried to get out of it (being a lie) but what's said is said  now.
Well its paddys day tomorrow, have the flagons and the shoulders of vodka
at the ready, I be the one in the just-back-from-the-lauderette-coat which
I had to bring there after my horrific falling in the mud incident. 
would anyone like to go to Negociants on sat (next week) night ? My
boyfriend Alistair works there. He's dreamy. 
sorry about the abuse of list. I just had to tell someone about caroline's
surprise party without ruining the surprise for her. She'll be so-oooo
thrilled ! goodbye my lovelies. 
_____________________________________________________________________________
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From smiley at xxx.uk  Thu Mar 16 22:32:59 2000
From: smiley at xxx.uk (Mr Smiley)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 22:32:59 -0000
Subject: Sinister: I am tired, I am weary
Message-ID: <009d01bf8f9b$39ee88e0$953f893e@n8j4k7>

Hullo chickens,

    My mummy bought a great (dare I say grate?) big Humpty Dumpty birthday
cake. Not because it's anyone's birthday, or because she's twee or anything,
but because it was cheap. A big cheapo Humpty Dumpty cake. I've got two days
to eat it. It is, for the record, very very big.

  I have fallen in love with the girl from Lazy Line Painter Jane. I am
disturbed. I'm also disturbed that I may well be in another country when
Fold Your Hands... is released. Oh well. I'm not so desperate for new
material, since until last week I hadn't heard any of the EPs, and now I've
heard all the ones in the LLPJ box and TIJAMRS is in the post. So my
insatiable cravings are quenched. Well, my B&S ones anyway.

  In keeping with my warped sense of fashion, I've ordered Nalda Said
several weeks after every other devoted fan has. I had to spell it out to
the guy in the bookshop. I don't know why, I mean who the f*** would call a
book Nalda Zed?

  Has anyone else ever burst into tears for no reason whilst listening to
the spoken bit at the end of I Could Be Dreaming? Or am I having a
breakdown?

    This is probably just an ignorance of netiquette (dread net geek word),
but how does one know when to stop sending people e-mails? I mean when
someone writes to me, it's only polite to write back. Then they get the
reply and it's only polite to reply to the reply, and so on. I suppose if
someone gets tired of hearing from me they could always tell me to f*** off.
But that wouldn't be very twee now would it? Incidentally, I think I read in
Select the best definition of twee ever, I go and find it...

    Oh bollocks I can't find it. Something to do with a world inhabited, not
by women and men, but by girls and boys.

    My brain really hurts when people abbreviate song titles (erm, like I
have above. God I'm such a hypocrite, but I'm writing this post over the
course of, like, a week. Which is why it's fragmented and inconsistent). I
end up sitting there (or even here) squinting at the screen going "HFEJFJ?,
KGDBLBF?" and it takes me half an hour to read. Not grumbling or anything.
Just observing.

    Oh, and I've decided to drop my Mr Smiley pseudonym for my posts on
sinister. This is because I remember a message I got from someone calling
themselves 'assassin' ages ago complaining that he'd been receiving my
sinister posts. So I wrote him a reply with the heading "Dear Mr Assassin"
to take the piss out of his assumed name. So I'd better get rid of mine.
Unless I can think of a better one. Which I can't.

God be with you,
Mike
smiley at rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk
http://www.rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk

PS Go to my site it is grate and also great, so it can be loved by twee kids
and lovers of spelling alike. And James I will put your stuff on when I can
be arsed.






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From lelah_jones at xxx.com  Thu Mar 16 23:14:50 2000
From: lelah_jones at xxx.com (lelah jones)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 23:14:50 GMT
Subject: Sinister: smelly telly
Message-ID: <20000316231451.49346.qmail@hotmail.com>


so i'm watching 'the partrige family' and during a commercial break there 
was one for myfamily.com. they were using 'up a tree' as thier background 
music!! i think they stole it from looper!! who's with me? come on! let's 
get 'em!!  get 'em!!!!!!!!!

lelah
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From aconover at xxx.net  Thu Mar 16 12:24:36 2000
From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 07:24:36 -0500
Subject: Sinister: he looks like a moleman, morley!
Message-ID: <200003162332.SAA06314@s1.nassau.cv.net>

well, fingerpicking isn't so hard. i can sort of play a bluesy-type 
riff now on E with a neat-o hammer-on, and a little bit i added 
myself at the end.. not bad if i say so myself, and something to 
practice rythm with. my mom says i'm gifted, but of course she would. 
noah says that fingerpicking is useless and that you can't do very 
much with it, but he's a punk rocker, and only knows three chords 
anyway, so what's the matter with him i ask you?

so here's a great thread: indie-pop conventions! not like big groups 
of popstars, but common threads linking indie-pop together. they're 
fun to play with, you know... things like:

* handclaps
* cardigans
* being sad because you don't have the nerve to talk to the girl you 
fancy who works at the bookstore
* organs
* courderoys

... can you folks think of any others? try hard... think of how fun 
it will be to annoy honey with another never ending thread!

keep the FAITH!

- adam

aconover at optonline.net
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From nikita1023 at xxx.com  Fri Mar 17 05:26:12 2000
From: nikita1023 at xxx.com (Christina DaCosta)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:26:12 PST
Subject: Sinister: fresh out of the nursery
Message-ID: <20000317052612.43660.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hello to everyone, i just got out of the nursery and wanted to say "hi" and 
that i really enjoyed everyones posts.  I go to college in NYC and that's 
where I was introduced to the lovely music of b&s.  I also like elliott 
smith, yo la tengo, magnetic fields, tori amos, kate bush, quasi, abba, and 
others.  Does anyone remember or know if Looper is playing a show in NYC?  I 
thought I read a post about it a while ago, and I would really like to go.  
Anways, if anyone knows please drop me a line.
Thanks ~Nikita
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From jennpr at xxx.edu  Fri Mar 17 06:31:49 2000
From: jennpr at xxx.edu (jennpr at xxx.edu)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 01:31:49 -0500
Subject: Sinister: home alone
Message-ID: <38D1D154.ECDC93E1@eden.rutgers.edu>

So I am home alone and I am not happy about this.  I keep hearing sounds
but I hope it is the rain....I hope.

Anyway, I am on spring break right now and it has not been much of a
break nor spring like.  I have a paper to write and so much to read.
Some of it is good though.  It is rainy out and fairly cold.  I brought
home short sleeve shirts thinking that it was going to be more like it
was last week but it isn't.  I have worn one sweater all week.  All I
brought home this time was my computer, minimal clothes and four cds-
Two of which are Belle and Sebastian, a good thing.  I left my radiohead
cds which was a mistake.  I did not mean to do so.

I talked to a friend today that had mentioned that he bought the singles
thing that just came out.  I have decided not to buy it, as I am going
to ask everyone to buy me the individual singles for my birthday(good
gift idea) in May.  AGH, my birthday.  I do not wish for it to come.  I
fear the twenties...I am just a baby, really.  Maybe if I was going to
be 21 I would not mind.  20 just seems to be a crummy age.
stuck here in the rain while all my roommates are in Cancun, * jennn*

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From vilkas at xxx.com  Fri Mar 17 06:25:02 2000
From: vilkas at xxx.com (Vilkas D'Angelo-Horvath)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 02:25:02 -0400
Subject: Sinister: St. Patricks Day Shocker!!! So this leprechaun says to a woman
	 "Your hair smells terrific"!!! lol yet?
Message-ID: <200003170720.CAA27850@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net>

Word Up! This is Vilkas.
I'm pretty new to the list but I feel as if I should divulge this
information for everyone's good.  We don't want any perverts in our midst.
I've met a few of you online and I think that you'd feel the same way. 
    So I got this letter from Splash.  It was the thing that had the
"favourites list to be forwarded thing" if any of you else got it. So that
was fine.  But when I got to the end there was the end part of a letter. It
was pretty explicit; almost too much even for you nasty sinisterians.Here's
a synopsis of the letter: 
     Basically there was a situation that was being organised involving
Splash, his girlfriend, a teen girl, a teen boy, and a sheep. I think the
letter was to his girlfriend, I can't be sure tho. He was asking about
whether he should buy either anal lube or normal (extra strength) lube cos
anal only comes in cinnamon or cherry flavour while the normal comes in Pina
Colada, Mango, or Whisky flavour.  He also asked if the recipient of the
letter if they've gotten the animal sedative yet.  In the letter, condoms
were mentioned, thank goodness. However arab straps, double-dildos,
handcuffs, and rope, the good kind, were mentioned too.  As well as "making
sure we have Sean's and Debbie's over 18 i.d.s just in case the neighbors
call the cops again".  At this point I had to finish reading the letter,
despite my shock.  In the end he said "I must remember to delete this part
of this my letter before I send it to the others. What would the other
sinesteriens [sic] think of us. We'd surely turn into a list thread ".  I
guess he forgot. 
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From splash at xxx.uk  Fri Mar 17 07:27:53 2000
From: splash at xxx.uk (Splash)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:27:53 -0000
Subject: Sinister: St. Patricks Day Shocker!!! So this leprechaun says to a woman "Your hair smells terrific"!!! lol yet?
Message-ID: <000d01bf8fe2$50369b00$280a883e@monkeymachine>

"Ooops" says Splash. <grin>!



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From andrewt at xxx.com  Fri Mar 17 11:38:20 2000
From: andrewt at xxx.com (Andrew Tracey)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:38:20 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Crash and Burn
Message-ID: <972D216B1EF3D3119B7D00D0B70F6EEA1CB222@WROX3>

So, how did we do yesterday at the whole betting ting.

2.00 - Bring Sweets - 13th
2.35 - Lady Rebecca - 6th
3.15 - Florida Pearl - 2nd
3.55 - Manhattan Rainbow - 14th
4.30 - Carandrew - Didn't finish
5.05 - Good Vibes - 5th
5.40 - Lord of Love - Non runner

Six losers, plus the horse inspired by Mr Miller didn't turn up. Still, a
profit of 90 pounds from 18 bets over three days = 50% profit. 90 pounds x
1200 people = lots of money. Maybe we should all get gold plated B+S badges
that we can wear upside down to signal our new found wealth.

Moral of the story - Gambling is good, healthy and a certain way to make
lots of money. Anyone who works for a living is a sap.

See you again for Cheltenham 2001.

Andrew

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From GardeningAtNight at xxx.com  Fri Mar 17 12:40:24 2000
From: GardeningAtNight at xxx.com (GardeningAtNight at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:40:24 EST
Subject: Sinister: lpooer is a bit freaky
Message-ID: <c.28f2563.260381b8@aol.com>

I am unbelievably tired right now and probably still have bits of confetti in 
my hair even though I've showered, but it is all very well worth it because 
it was in the name of Looper.  That is, I saw them last night.  W!O!W!

I was surprised at how many fans turned up, but most were from out of town it 
seemed.  See, I'm young yet, so it was lovely to interact with people who 
don't look at me much like a deer in headlights when I mention B&S.  The 
place they played was an old firehouse, it was rather nice.  I'm embarassed 
to say that I think I'm going the way of every 15 year old I know, because I 
think I referred to StuD as "man meat" at one point.  But even if he weren't, 
it still would've been gr(e/a)t(e).  Whoever said that wee Karn isn't very 
wee was right, but if she isn't wee she certainly is twee, dancing about in 
the middle of the stage and tossing paper airplanes the wrong way round and 
standing in the gong-holder thing.  I got an autograph from Evil Bob the bus 
driver who played sax on Columbo's Car and sold merchandise.  He was very 
surprised but I told him he'd have to get used to it now that he's famous.

I was disappointed that the Flaming Lips played only one song that I even 
knew.  I only have one album, but still.. wah.  And what's this gong fetish?  
My head was pounding, but they were good anyway.

I suppose that's the only thing of any interest I have to say, so I'll end 
now although it's never stopped me before.  Back to my mundane existance, 
daydreaming in school about the new Select that isn't here yet and writing 
happy birthday greetings to musicians on every bathroom mirror with lipstick.

Samantha
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From chris_leak at xxx.uk  Fri Mar 17 13:55:53 2000
From: chris_leak at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?CHRIS=20LEAK?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:55:53 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Home Thoughts from a Broad
Message-ID: <20000317135553.28553.qmail@web1304.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi

Someone mentioned Sitting on the Dock of the Bay by
Otttis Reading. Did anyone else realise that the
whistling was only added after Mr Reading's demise? Am
I the only one who finds that intensely sad?

Byee for now.

Leaky 

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From strappingarab at xxx.com  Fri Mar 17 14:41:55 2000
From: strappingarab at xxx.com (robert smith)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 06:41:55 PST
Subject: Sinister: Williams days
Message-ID: <20000317144155.57935.qmail@hotmail.com>



Hello everyone.

To celebrate my first message I thought you all might like to hear a little 
story, so here goes.

"This will be a special day", thought William. "after all, its not often 
that I lay in bed eagerly awaiting the buzz of the alarm claock. Especially 
in summer.
The clock struck seven and the alarm did its usual impression of the 
Duracell bunny after a stroke. William sprung from bed and quickly decieded 
that sleeping naked was not as macho as he had previously thought. Or maybe 
it was. He switched on the radio for some company but he ignored it just as 
much as if it was a real person.
While the toast was burning William made himself fit for viewing. The fact 
that he had no butter will not deter him today.
Armed with only a book of Keats' poems, a camera and bus fare he went to the 
park.
Keats is best read in the park.
William was not sure if it had been a special day or not. He'd fallen asleep 
under a tree whilst reading.
When he first heard that you're supposed to sleep for eight hours he thought 
they meant out of evety ten.

-

I hope you liked it and didn't think it too self induldgent.



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From steven.kado at xxx.ca  Fri Mar 17 18:04:46 2000
From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:04:46 -0500
Subject: Sinister: flying the face of indie convention.
References: <200003162332.SAA06314@s1.nassau.cv.net>
Message-ID: <001e01bf903b$448facc0$d802a7d1@yesic.com>

so i havn't posted in a long time, its cuz school is an evil thing.

also, i've listened to the clash for 2 days straight now so there's been
little wistfulness in my life. and its been raining and cold and i've got
that 'my life is rapidly going down the shitter' feeling, so you could say
i've got other things on my mind.

but then this appeared:
> AGH, my birthday.  I do not wish for it to come.  I
> fear the twenties...I am just a baby, really.  Maybe if I was going to
> be 21 I would not mind.  20 just seems to be a crummy age.

yes. fear your twentieth birthday.
i cried almost all through mine.  and my bonehead family went the extra mile
towards making the whole thing incredibly unpleasant.  20 is awful, you look
back and think that you'll probably only live to be 80 and the whole thing
is one quarter of the way through and you're still terminally awkward and
havn't really figured out how to avoid run-on sentences and no matter what
things will never turn out ok.

um, so happy birthday.....i won't give you anything sharp for your birthday.

and then this:
> so here's a great thread: indie-pop conventions! not like big groups
> of popstars, but common threads linking indie-pop together. they're
> fun to play with, you know... things like:
>
> * handclaps
> * cardigans
> * being sad because you don't have the nerve to talk to the girl you
> fancy who works at the bookstore
> * organs
> * courderoys


har! yes...i have a feeling that indie is a different thing in the UK than
in north america.  but here are a few goodies:

::brown pants that are too short and show your socks at the ankles.

::small t-shirts with different coloured bands at the neck and arms and with
logos of public schools or obscure no-league sprots teams on the front

::the token RAWK song on the record to show that you aren't totally
art-school/brainer rock.

::big chunky plastic framed glasses

::the 'i just woke up' hair do that takes 15 minutes to do every morning.

::black chunky shoes to match the glasses.

::playing your guitar really low, even though it gives you a hand cramp.


personally i've been doing my best to eliminate these sorry cliche's from my
life, having VERY PARTED HAIR for instance and wearing loafers and ties and
tucking my shirts into my pants, and ironing everything till the creases
frequently cut me when i'm not careful.  the worst thing in the world is
going to concerts and having everybody look like they just woke up and put
on their blue hoodie and too short brown work pants with studded leather
belt and red socks.    grrr.  wear pink you slouching indie types,
especially the men.  LLLLLLL!  and comb your fekkin hair!

i also play my bass pretty high up and such, that will teach them.

issues at hand:
the new album....has an ungainly title, i will not be blinded by mad
devotion and fawn over it, it is kinda gross.
it really has this ring of doom to it.  whoever said this will probably be
the last B&S album could be right, the title certainly sounds like a last
album, or a last album before the 'and then they would never make a
half-decent album again' period settles in.  like elvis costello and
imperial bedroom....i have a feeling that i'll like the new record but not a
lot.

i've clearly made up my mind already. i don't even need to hear the album.

oh...and in case the band find that they really can't get along without a
bass player..........i could relocate to scotland for just such a thing.
i'd be like stu d in that i'm grumpy and play gameboy but different in that
i'm single and tidy and from the colonies, and have a better grasp on
sampling (take that stu!).

sttvtn ktdt








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From MBP99KLC at xxx.uk  Fri Mar 17 19:23:37 2000
From: MBP99KLC at xxx.uk (Katy)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:23:37 +0000
Subject: Sinister: "My brothers...don't show favouritism"
In-Reply-To: <200003171443.OAA15828@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <FB22214402@scammonden.shef.ac.uk>

Hmm. Feeling slightly shy about posting today for some reason.

Tonight I am going to a night called Offbeat at our Union, where 
every band on the flyer is one of my absolute favourite bands. The 
reason I haven't been before is that none of them are my friends' 
favourite bands, apart from my friend Jamie, who doesn't like clubs. 
The reason I am going now is that a boy who one of my friends 
fancies is going. So. My friends are a bit fussy about what they 
dance to but I'll be quite happy just sitting with a pint listening to 
the nice music. Which I know I could do at home but, as I've said 
before, I like it when other people are made to listen to my favourite 
music. It's a Smiths special though and, although I like the Smiths, 
I do hope they don't play JUST the Smiths. Also I ordered some 
belle and sebastian badges but I'm a bit unsure about wearing 
them at all, let alone upside down. Maybe I'll put one on my bag or 
jacket or something.

If you were tired of talking to someone by e-mail, you just wouldn't 
reply so often, right? I hope so anyway.

katy
x

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You're in my face
You make me hate the human race"
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From NOGOODNIK at xxx.net  Fri Mar 17 20:23:36 2000
From: NOGOODNIK at xxx.net (christa)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:23:36 -0500
Subject: Sinister: the neighbors have been drinking, and they're raising quite a stink
Message-ID: <004f01bf904e$ad978360$0f339cd1@e44e9>

i was in the grocery store yesterday, feeling up my vine-ripened tomatoes,
when i heard familiar sounds coming from the store speakers.  i stood there
for a while trying to figure out what i was hearing when it finally came to
me... it was a muzac version of Nick Drake's "Northern Sky".   i was
stunned.  it's so hard to recognize these songs when you here them...
recreated... in such a way.  anyway, it made me happy.  does anyone else
think going to the grocery is the most sensual experience?  the sights,
sounds, smells... i *love* it.  i think i'll go back today just for kicks.

i can't stop listening to the new Lambchop CD.  its dead sexy.  that and the
new yo la tengo... and allan clapp.  all of this music made for naughtiness!
its a good thing i'm a naughty girl.

TO ALL THE SINISTER LADIES:  i highly recommend any book to you by Francesca
Lia Block.  a wonderful lady bought 'Dangerous Angels' for me and i read it
in 2 days.  its so dreamy, girlie, and round.   it totally inspired me, and
i know it'll inspire you too.  i bought two more of her books yesterday,
'Violet & Claire' (which i finished today and is amazing) and 'The Hanging
Man'.  do your feminine selves a favor and check out some of her stuff,
you'll really dig it.

i have nothing B&S- related to tell you all, but since i post once every 3
months, i figure you all can suck it up.
its cold today and i'm sad.  it was humid and 70 yesterday- what happened?
damn!! this is a lame post.

saving the day before bedtime,
christa


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From splash at xxx.uk  Fri Mar 17 22:06:23 2000
From: splash at xxx.uk (Splash)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:06:23 -0000
Subject: Sinister: St. Patricks Day Shocker!!! So this leprechaun says to a woman "Your hair smells terrific"!!! lol yet?
Message-ID: <005301bf905d$0da15b60$cd5d883e@monkeymachine>

okay then, who was offended? I suggest that "Richard Barnes checks his/her
nme account for a full and frank reply to his/her mail to me.

And if anyone didn't get it yet may i suggest you read Vilkas' post previous
to the one containing the message?

Laters

Love

Splash

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From aconover at xxx.net  Fri Mar 17 12:39:42 2000
From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:39:42 -0500
Subject: Sinister: i reply to many a whistle
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Message-ID: <200003172347.SAA07465@s1.nassau.cv.net>

On 17 Mar 00, at 15:23, christa muttered into a little tape recorder:

> i was in the grocery store yesterday, feeling up my vine-ripened tomatoes,
> when i heard familiar sounds coming from the store speakers.  i stood there
> for a while trying to figure out what i was hearing when it finally came to
> me... it was a muzac version of Nick Drake's "Northern Sky".   i was
> stunned.  it's so hard to recognize these songs when you here them...
> recreated... in such a way.  anyway, it made me happy.  does anyone else
> think going to the grocery is the most sensual experience?  the sights,
> sounds, smells... i *love* it.  i think i'll go back today just for kicks.

i used to work at a grocery store here on long island... "king 
kullen", it was called. nothing puts the "kibosh" on your 
appreciation of grocery stores like working at one... oh, it's 
horrible. it killed my brain. i occupied myself by thinking of ways 
to get past their stealing-prevention plans (absurdly easy), and 
eventually learned how to charge nasty customers extra and give the 
nice ones a free can of soup or something. some parts of it were 
nice, but mostly it was just bad. but hey, at least it gives me a 
reason to go to college...

oh, yes, stev-o kad-o, i'm from the north americas too, and we have 
tons of boys in too-small t-shirts with school names on them, yes we 
do. in fact, they all look just like you say. except me, i'm too 
pudgy for the t-shirts. anyone else have suggestions for Indie-Pop 
Conventions? i have one more: the use of "boy" and "girl" exclusively 
as pronouns. brought about cheifly by b+s, of course.. but, of 
course, they are the uber-POP, so...

over and under...

- adam 



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From zutroy at xxx.org  Sat Mar 18 00:20:08 2000
From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:20:08 -0500
Subject: Sinister: i don't get along with scary movies
Message-ID: <v04210103b4f878542577@[206.153.194.11]>

hello sinisterines.
i can't hold back anymore, i just have to ask who gave me a list 
crush vote. please tell me, it's ripping me up inside wondering who 
the secret admirer is.
but, since i know how sick you people get of hearing about list crush 
votes, i'll stop talking about it now.
onto bigger and better things. have any of you seen the short films 
by/about tenacious D, "the greatest band on earth"? they showed them 
on Mr. Show (on HBO here in the US) a few years back, and i think 
they may have shown them on saturday night live, too. but since i 
don't watch either of those shows i have no idea how recently the 
short films have been shown. now, you may be asking yourself, "how 
would she know about these films if she doesn't watch the television 
programs they were aired on?" well, kids, the answer to that is quite 
simple: my friend's older sister taped them and i watched them at her 
house a couple years back. so there. :P
anyway, the point of all this is that i'm becoming more willing to 
get past my dislike of john cusack to see high fidelity simply 
because one of the guys from tenacious d is in it. i'm not sure if 
it's a big part or not, but he's so funny i think i may go see the 
movie when it comes to town.
and about the subject line: i've started renting movies now that i 
can watch them on my computer and i need something to do when i don't 
feel like working. last night i rented scream 2 because i was curious 
and i really like the first one. anyway, that was a mistake. my house 
of 7 people is empty because it's spring break, i live on the 3rd 
floor, and it was raining last night. i spent some portions of the 
movie lying on my bed with my pillow over my head. but, luckily, i 
rented dark city, as well, so that when i finally did go to bed i had 
pleasant images in my head instead of blood and gore. and knives.
one of my favorite things about movies like scream is spending the 
bulk of the movie trying to figure out who's going to die, and who 
the killer is. i was so disappointed at the end when i discovered 
that i'd identified one of the killers in the first 20 minutes of the 
movie. bastards. they made it too easy this time. oh well. and 
figuring who would die wasn't so hard, all i had to do was see who 
the cast of scream 3 was and then figure that anybody who wasn't in 
that was as good as dead. ahh, but i'll stop all this talk of scary 
movies now. it's not very twee, is it?
i'm actually just killing time until friends comes on. yes, i admit 
it, i like that horrible show. i think it's hilarious. i'm not sure 
why, but i can easily say that even if you hate most of the people in 
it (as i do), lisa kudrow makes it all worthwhile. i mean, have you 
people seen clockwatchers? or romy and michelle's high school 
reunion? fucking GRATE movies.
i didn't think i'd like romy and michelle's . . . at first. but then 
a friend of mine sat me and some other kids down and forced us to 
watch it. after that, every time i went out to rent a video with a 
different friend, we inevitably migrated over to where romy and 
michelle's was, and now i own it. ;)

alas, i've got nothing left to say, so i'll leave you be.

-kerry

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From secretmysterydate at xxx.com  Sat Mar 18 08:03:50 2000
From: secretmysterydate at xxx.com (brand new shoes)
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 03:03:50 EST
Subject: Sinister: oh how the mighty have fallen...
Message-ID: <20000318080350.39136.qmail@hotmail.com>

hello all,

it is late friday night in pittsburgh and i have just come from a big bash 
after the opening reception for an graduation thesis exhibit. i must say 
that i am very unhappy with some of what i saw. one piece in particular that 
i thought maybe the list might like to hear about. this grad student that i 
am sort of friends with did a piece that involved putting on headphones and 
carrying a discman around that gave you directions and talked to you about 
what you were seeing. sound familiar? well, probably not, unless you saw 
Janet Cardiff's fantastic piece at the Carnegie International this year, 
which was almost exactly the same, only much better and with video cameras 
and headphones. the thing is, this kid was her assistant setting it up!
he helped her out and then ripped her off!!
i was so pissed i couldn't really even pay attention to the piece very much, 
even the tone of his voice was similar.
now i'm going to feel awkward when i see him, because i won't be able to say 
anything about his piece.
damn.

on a plus note my good friend riccardo, who left town last year to take up a 
faculty position near buffalo somewhere, came back to see the show (heart!). 
he's like the older hispanic brother i never had.

on a wierd note, my highly esteemed genius professor was at the party 
tonight, completely smashed, hitting on my friends a bit, and asking me to 
take part in this big party he is organizing for the rites of spring. it 
seems to involve temple whores, virgins, blood letting (followed by 
consumption, gross!) and other sorts of paganish things. he wants me to come 
up with an appropriately hedonistic ceremony/performance piece for the 
party, and i am feeling a little uncomfortable about it all, i must say.
oy!
oh! i played "is it wicked not to care", along with a few of my songs, 
tonight at the cmu women's center fundraiser, and i guess it was live on the 
radio, which is kind of neat, maybe.
ummm
i guess that's all. i hope that this was interesting enough to send to the 
whole list. i always end up going back and reading honey's advice on what's 
worth posting, and not being able to imagine 1200 people careing about 
anything that i would say ever. so i just end up posting whatever dull stuff 
is going on.
ohhh, oh oh oh!!! i almost forgot completely, SOMEONE GAVE ME A CRUSH 
VOTE!!! i am very excited. i am soo curious, but i would never ask someone 
to tell me. half the fun is being all goofy and trying to figure it out and 
giggling to yourself and feeling cool and lame at the same time.
okay, bed time for l'il sam
sweet dreams kids.
love
sam

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From dee at xxx.ie  Sat Mar 18 13:19:41 2000
From: dee at xxx.ie (Denise Power)
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 13:19:41 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: b&s (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10003181306530.19722-100000@karma.ucd.ie>


full track listing below : 

I think the title sounds a bit silly at first and you say thats daft and
then you get the scolding nuances and then you appreciate the subtle
pseudo-ironic tendencies in which by promoting such a stance , they are
taking it
down a peg but I still think a nice short title like "jumpers" would have
been so much better. That person who said that reading things like
DKJDFGKHFDGKHJDF gives you a headache is right. And when you already have
a headache, having another one is the last thing you want.
this time next week I'll be in edinburgh again. Yipee. My taxi driver this
morning used to live in Edinburgh. We discussed various locations. He
lived near Leith, thats where a boy my friend knows is from. I resisted
the
urge to ask the taxi man did he know that boy, knowing in advance he
wouldn't and being sick of taxi drivers thinking I am strange. Because I'm
not. 

Question : for comedy's sake would you ring up a boy who you used to i
suppose be sort of seeing on a casual basis 8 months after you ever saw
each other pretending that nothing had happened and that 8 months is not
according to you too long to pick up the phone and say, "hey, wanna meet
up tonight" You would, wouldn't you ! Oh come on, I think it would be
hilarious and healing. What a combination to force you to do it. Well
would you do it if you knew that your friends were very evilly going to
stage a horrific surprise party for you on your return with people whose
presence you hate and know from past experience RUIN parties, would you do
it if that party could be guaranteed to happen if you didn't do it.
I know this brings into play ethics and comedy which let me tell you can
be a very lively discussion given the right circumstances but enough
torture for those of you unable to scroll or skim read. Le track list,
list.
_____________________________________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:08:13 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tom O'Doherty <tom at xxx.ie>
To: Denise Power <dee at netsoc.ucd.ie>
Subject: b&s


full tracklisting for 'fold your hands child, you walk like a peasant',
released on june 5th through jeepster.

'i fought a war'
'the model'
'beyond the sunrise'
'waiting for the moon to rise'
'don't leave the light on baby'
'(fold your hands child, you walk like a peasant)'
'the wrong girl'
'nice day for a sulk'
'the chalet lines'
'women's realm'
'family tree'
'there's too much love'


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From Glamtart at xxx.com  Sat Mar 18 17:18:03 2000
From: Glamtart at xxx.com (Glamtart at xxx.com)
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:18:03 EST
Subject: Sinister: the hours turn into days
Message-ID: <ac.29264fb.2605144b@aol.com>

Hello Sins,
It's your once in a blue moon post from the crazy girl in Arkansas.  It's 
Saturday and I'm a little hungover from last night's St Patty's festivities, 
even if I did get to bed at 10:30.  Ah, the sad life of a working girl.  It's 
my second (or is it third?) week in my new flat... which my flatmate Diana 
and I have decorated in a very fabulous manner.  Lots of heinous turquoise 
and/or yellow 50s kitchen items and porcelain tiger planters... anyway, in 
that short period of time I have completely won her over to the wonders of 
Belle and Sebastian... I guess it's returning the favour she did for me years 
ago by introducing me to the Smiths.  She in turn is spreading the news 
around to all of her friends... I was afraid that they may be too Punk Rock 
to like B&S but apparently not!  Anyway it's been an altogether interesting 
week, from watching Fellini's "Roma" (a "visual fiasco" as one put it) with 
the boy I can't help lusting after even though he's a) a complete arsehole 
and b) only flirts with me when he feels like it... to becoming so hopelessly 
overwhelmed at work on St Pat's Day that I had to ring my friend Andrew's 
mobile in Ireland... on my parents' phone card.   Pity is that he didn't even 
answer!  Story of my life it seems.  I'm really missing Dublin these days and 
wish I still lived there.  That time will come again I know... Ah but I'm not 
depressed, it's March and that means Spring is coming!  Springtime is the 
best time of the year... everyone is frisky and suddenly new boys pop up in 
the most unexpected places...  it's the best season overall.  Hmmm... can't 
think of a clever ending for this utterly pointless email - I suppose I 
should go shower so I can begin the massive task of tidying up the kitchen... 
one week's worth of filth is enough to make anyone's head turn!
Love from 
    Mandy
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From pinefox at xxx.com  Sat Mar 18 18:27:18 2000
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:27:18 GMT
Subject: Sinister: and then they'll *really* look like a Start-Rite kid
Message-ID: <20000318182718.97030.qmail@hotmail.com>


ladybirds, ladybirds,


Never let it be said that I live in the future. I've been heading backwards 
as fast as my magic boots will carry me for as long as I can remember, no, 
anticipate. And I finally drifted so far back that I found that Tim Hopkins, 
once, possibly in another century, maybe in a galaxy, or possibly just a 
Capri, far far away, said:

--------------

the last thing I remember Reynolds writing was that we had had enough
(too many?) fantastic songs and that what music needed was a load of
noise that superceded the song (he wouldf justify such babble by going
on about 'jouissance' and 'the demolition of self' and suchlike which is
all very well until you realise he's doing it because, basically, he
likes the Young Gods).

No doubt he'd hate Belle and Sebastian for the reason that they
are the best songwriters operating in the whole of pop music today. Or
he'd slip into the easy stereotype of calling them twee and childlike
and then bung that stuff about how the whole enterprise is the pop music 
version of anorexia, which I always thought was a duff argument (to broadly 
summarise, he said that anorexia was all about refusing one's status as an 
adult and the consequent pressures and responsibilities of the world; he 
then identified Talulah Gosh as doing the same thing).

------------------------

I was struck on reading this, because I've finally read the piece that TH is 
referring to, after many years of having it quoted to me, well nigh 
verbatim, by my Stevenage collispondent. I wonder, though, about TH's 
argument. As it happens, I like his first para, especially the use of the 
word 'babble' - the most casually effective put-down that I've encountered 
since an Irish foreign minister remarked, 'Ian Paisley should go away'. But 
TH seems to be saying that SR disliked indie pop, and thus likened it to 
anorexia in order to put it down. (I can now imagine the wrath of TH as he 
corrects me re. this interpretation of his rich, nay, polysemic, non, 
jouissant words.) I don't think that that was SR's take at all, not back 
when he made the argument - as long ago as 1986. Here he is again:


------------------

[Indiepop's] return to romance is oppositional. Chartpop has grown ever more 
'adult' in its treatment of relationships - either more explicit and 
suggestive or mature and 'progressive'. The idea of a redemptive / 
devastating love has come to seem a superstition in this age of yuppie 
self-management and self-sufficiency.... The indie scene is interested in 
precisely the jeopardising or loss of self through terror or awe, precisely 
the absolute investment of the self that is forbidden in this secular 
economy of self....
     By a strange process we've reached the point where 'purity' seems more 
radical than libertinism, more transgressive than sin. The indie scene is 
obsessed by a dream of purity - of 'pure love', of a 'pure' or 'perfect pop' 
that evades the taint of the Eighties.... And where all these ideas converge 
is in two (very much linked) periods - childhood and the Sixties. The 
Sixties are like pop's childhood, when the idea of youth was still young.

('Against Health And Efficiency', in Angela McRobbie ed, Zoot Suits and 
Second-Hand Dresses, 1989)

--------------------------

blah, blah, blah. I shan't go on - but even TH must admit it's an 
interesting article; even, I'd have say, an *exciting* one. Fourteeen years 
on, I haven't seen the meanings of this stuff given a better reading; it's 
striking how relevant and comprehensible it all remains. But my point to TH 
is, surely SR wasn't knocking indie pop? He does anatomize it, as Stevie T 
has said, from a height that is itself (like the indie scene, according to 
his description) somewhat aescetic - but I think it was more a supportive 
analysis than a critical one.

Which is, I suppose, to say, in response to the original question: yes, SR 
would probably knock B&S today - but only out of a sense (right or wrong) 
that they had failed to progress from what he was analyzing way back when. 
(My own view, needless to say, is that progress isn't a virtue - cf. my 
first paragraph.) The terms of his original analysis wouldn't give any 
ground for knocking B&S (the anorexic speculation is thrown in in passing, 
not made as an accusation); but I do think it still helps us to understand 
some more of the things that B&S mean - which is quite an achievement for a 
text written when Neville Southall was playing regular top-flight football.


What's that?

Really?

Never!


f2
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From JENOWL22 at xxx.com  Sat Mar 18 20:18:17 2000
From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com)
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:18:17 EST
Subject: Sinister: Fold your clothes child, they'll get all creased
Message-ID: <b6.2ac80b4.26053e89@aol.com>

Hewwo. 

Everyone seems to be leaving sinister at the moment. Boo hoo :(

Isn't the title of the new B&S album GRATE? (yes, GRATE, mr chris). But no 
Lord Anthony. I've not actually heard Lord Anthony, but I read the lyrics and 
thought they were beautiful. Really lovely. If the tune's nice, it could 
become my favourite song.

This week, in school, I've been conducting a social experiment. Yes, I have 
decided to inflict my dazzlingly white knee high socks on St. Brides High 
School. I stuck at it all week, despite getting a bit of a kicking in the 
cantene the first day I wore them, despite being called Brittany Spears, 
despite loud and harsh laughter everytime I go by a group of hard kids, and 
despite the fact that I have crap legs, and my pleated skirt is slightly too 
small for me. 

I got new glasses yesterday. I don't like them that much, but they were 
better than the little square things that give me a big moon face. I wanted 
these really cool, massive, round brown owly ones, but in the end I had to 
get these other ones that are too tight on, and don't look at all nice. 

My friend stayed the night last night and we got a bit drunk on half a bottle 
of cider each ("no, mum, it really is apple juice"). We then phoned up Barry, 
the git, on a drunken impulse, but he wasn't in, so we talked to his sister, 
who's a moke. Then we stayed up all night watching Four Later and debating 
whether Chris Geddes would or would not be the perfect guy. Me arguing for 
and her complaining that she wanted to switch off the B&S videos, because, 
and I quote "They're all gay and don't you bluddy finish off all that cider, 
bitch" (she was only kidding on though),  and watch her Blondie documentary. 
Then someone gave us a prank phone call and we ended up talking to him about 
the sex pistols. 

I don't like choir at all. Oh no. Because the chorusmaster is a moke. He is. 
He picks on me when my friends talk and get me into trouble. It's because I'm 
too honest to avoid getting caught. Like when I called him a bluddy moke, and 
he heard me. 

I'd better go now, and get some sleep.

Hugs,
Jen xxx

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From GardeningAtNight at xxx.com  Sat Mar 18 23:06:54 2000
From: GardeningAtNight at xxx.com (GardeningAtNight at xxx.com)
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:06:54 EST
Subject: Sinister: cross your eyes child, you look like a moke
Message-ID: <7c.304c7b7.2605660e@aol.com>

I don't know why I'm writing this, I just feel like it.  I think I hate 
photography again.  There was about a week there that everything was going 
right, but then last night I went and saw Looper again in Columbia and 
brought my camera, but the whole roll of film came out blank.  Not even black 
pictures!  So I kicked the crap out of our old ugly gray 1984 Volvo outside 
the 1-hour photo shop for what seemed like forever.  But then I felt better.  
Now I'm worried that my photo project for school isn't going to work.  But I 
had so many grate pictures of StuD and wee Karn and a guy who I thought was 
Ronnie but I really don't know why I thought that.  I talked to him right 
after they played, but it just went something like this:

me: hey, you guys were grate!
him: thanks.
me: yeah.  uh, we, uh, i came just for you, just to see you guys.
him: really? cool*
me: yeah.  uh, well, have fun on your tour and stuff..
him: thanks.

And I snapped a photo of a cute college boy with everything in common with me 
who I chatted up (which is very unlike me so naturally I was proud) but now I 
have no proof of even being there besides my t-shirt.  It's so twee, I wore 
it around today and felt all special like I had the greatest secret in the 
world and no one else had a clue, which is how it sort of is with us and B&S.

jen with the clorox-white socks said:
<< This week, in school, I've been conducting a social experiment. Yes, I 
have 
decided to inflict my dazzlingly white knee high socks on St. Brides High 
School. I stuck at it all week, despite getting a bit of a kicking in the 
cantene the first day I wore them, despite being called Brittany Spears, 
despite loud and harsh laughter everytime I go by a group of hard kids, and 
despite the fact that I have crap legs, and my pleated skirt is slightly too 
small for me.  >>

At least you have the guts to do it.  I wouldn't.  But the kids at your 
school sound unnaturally cruel.  I was harassed nearly everyday until the 
beginning of last year but.. well I guess it actually was as bad as that.  I 
dreaded the bus then, the kids spit gum in my hair in 6th grade and stole my 
hair clips and called me names and I really believe that I'm scarred for 
life.  Junior high was hell, at least in high school the place is big and 
crowded enough for me to make myself invisible.

jen also said:
<< the chorusmaster is a moke. Like when I called him a bluddy moke, and 
he heard me. >>

Cool.  You are my hero!  You know, I should search the archives and count how 
many times that word has come up.  It's growing on me.  Moke moke moke.

Samantha

* I can't verify that he said cool but I really hope he did.  He probably 
just went off and said to the others, "this weird girl just tried to talk to 
me. I hope our other fans aren't like this.."
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From dbgeraghty at xxx.com  Sun Mar 19 00:15:21 2000
From: dbgeraghty at xxx.com (David)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 00:15:21 -0000
Subject: Sinister: what a state we could get in...
Message-ID: <002d01bf9138$387ee6a0$1a9c6fd4@dbgeraghty>

ok. maybe this is just too stupid an idea. maybe I spend too much time in
#sinister talking complete crap. ok, I do...but finally, perhaps, out of all
the crap springs...

A GOOD (for which read at 1 in the morning it seemed quite funny) IDEA

right, how about....a list band. oh yes. but not just any band..

ok, this is how I see it. it might not work. heck, I'm darned sure it won't,
but it could be a lot of fun to see the results....

anyone can join this band. the reason being is that we all record our part
(of the pre-decided song, more of which later.....) and it is all tied
together with a big piece of string at the end...anyone is welcome, as are
any instruments. all that needs to be observed is the basic tune and tempo
of the song. so, 10 parts or 1010, it doesn't (in theory) matter. it will
all, somehow, be lashed together to make a big musical pie. which we will
then EAT. or perhaps just listen to and LAUGH at the foolishness of it all.

as far as the song goes, we thought (we being whichever characters were
loitering around #sinister at the time) maybe...*shhhhh!* a belle and
sebastian song......

I mean, what better way of showing our love of them than systematically
destroying one of their songs....? but all ideas will be regarded by the
panel (ummm, I'll make one up perhaps....)

right...well, thats it so far. if you think it is just the biggest pile of
POO you have ever read, delete, and feel free to kick me next time you meet
me. if however, it is making you all EXCITED and you think it is one of the
top 100 ideas you have heard all day, then mail me with both your song
suggestions, and what you want to do in this 'band'. as I have said,
anything is welcome, of any talent, and the weirder the instrumentation, the
better!somehow 100 bass guitars all playing the state I am in is not *that*
appealing! but, if it is what we get, we'll run with it!

OK, well, over to you...

and mail ME not the LIST. I will be doing a website or something if needs
must...

ok, well, to work then!

david

P.S if i have really come up with the daftest idea ever. sorry. :-(



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From jamesmcsuperman at xxx.com  Sat Mar 18 23:28:07 2000
From: jamesmcsuperman at xxx.com (Qiyamat Boy)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 11:28:07 +1200
Subject: Sinister: Eat the NME
Message-ID: <20000319123257.96810.qmail@hotmail.com>

I need the loo, but the urge to make my presence known is overpowering even
my bladder, that most bossy of organs.

I read here earlier someone said "I bet most of the people here haven't even
heard"...I think it was a Dylan song or something.  I see that a lot.
Musical elitism.  Quite charming, really.  It's like Quorn people feeling
righteous, faced with meat eaters.

It amuses me.  How you can assume that other people aren't as well versed as
you, based merely on your own high self-esteem.

Not you, the person who said it, but people who do that....this....in
general.  People striving to be hip, I can understand, but music is music.
It's nice, it's for the ears.  It's not all-bran.

Made sense to me, anyway.

Harry
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From julesmarkham at xxx.net  Sun Mar 19 12:40:54 2000
From: julesmarkham at xxx.net (julesmarkham)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:40:54 -0000
Subject: Sinister: young, bored and full of coffee
Message-ID: <006301bf91a0$7d50b7a0$9d18ac3e@Georgetesco.net>

 someone told me that there are people out there who have never heard of
 palace bros. or will Oldham.
can this be true?!
 so, in the spirit of being unemployed and overly generous, the first...3
people to e-mither me privately can have a shiny little compilation tape of
the lovely
will Oldham doing his stuff.
and if more than 3 people reply, well I'll be so flattered, I might just do
them compy tapes anyway!
 jules


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From pcxas at xxx.uk  Sun Mar 19 13:40:57 2000
From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 13:40:57 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: First , not one , in a million
In-Reply-To: <20000318182718.97030.qmail@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.05.10003191320510.10373-100000@granby>



On PF,SR,and TH's dissection of Indie Pop and other toxic behaviour:

I had seen earlier the adjective 'anorexic' employed in some musical
review oozing baroque terms.It was about some minimalist-folk work, I
cannot remember now, maybe Will Oldham himself or Songs of Ohia.And
'anemic' also ,to refer the absence of ornament and the austere use of
instruments...etc.j

So,the meaning and intention of the word was very different,
though,at least judging from this list's contents, quite a few B&S fans
would be in Palace & co's new army as well.SR's accurately predicted that
being demure and humble would become a much more underground, anti-system
attitude than adopting any hedonistic positions, as the System's one and
only moral
scaffoldery nowadays is Spend,Spend,Spend.In some 'antique regime'
conception, libertine would equal hedonism, but is it that clear now?If
libertine should equal laughing loud at the conventions at the same
time,that's it...

However, grunge was a totally different claim, aesthetically and musically
from Anorak POp or first Indie attempts at the late eighties,but
conjugated as well some sort of budgeted reaction to booming
consumerism.And that took place not long after SR's wise words were
published. Indie Pop was identified later on with Brit Pop, though, in my
modest,non Brit opinion,this later was only a quite illegitimate son of
the former, not even that close in musical sources and forms, and quite
far away from initial, restrictive indie positions. Brit POp bands wanted
to be starry stars, to be acclaimed in stadiums, both from the stage and
when supporting their favourite FC.They craved the whole package,including
celebrity,money,eccentric expenses,that Roman Emperor status that huge
money and fame can buy in this world of us.

ANd to reduce heavy-contents in this pedantic,boffin-like posting of mine,
just another quote which mixes up anorexia and Indieland : my overweight
friend who got stuck in Husker Du and Mudhoney and still sports long,
unruled mane as in 1991, exposed his theory in golden days of BritPop,
which is summed up as, to be an Indie Kid you have to be not only thin but
narrow-framed,as if not, it is impossible to get tight,stripped,70's
second-hand t'shirts at a reasonable price .


Promise to be more light-hearted next time.


Arantxa




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From MBP99KLC at xxx.uk  Sun Mar 19 14:54:07 2000
From: MBP99KLC at xxx.uk (Katy)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 15:54:07 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Sound system gonna bring me back up, yeah!
Message-ID: <v01540b01b4fa92ecd990@[143.167.67.55]>

Hi Sinister.

Di said:
>i don't know why it never occurs to anyone that perhaps i am actually a
>mean >girl. i kind of am in relationships actually. i try not to be, but i
>have high >expectations.

Yes. It's the only time when you have no choice but to be selfish. These
boys you're talking about have to try harder! When I say try harder, I
don't mean putting on a front or trying to be something they're not. I just
mean they have to still be the person you liked in the first place. I'm not
just talking about boys - it's the same for anyone.

My trouble is that I always like boys who are a bit cynical, maybe a bit
self-effacing even - you know, not loud-mouthed show-offs who act as if
they think they're great. I suppose because people who act like that are
usually even more insecure underneath than the rest of us. But there's a
fine line between being a bit cynical, not taking the world too seriously,
and taking everything far too seriously cos you hate everything.

It's not that I think finding the right person (or, you know, *a* right
person) is the answer to happiness and stuff. But it would be nice though.
I think that whether I ever want to have kids or not might depend on
whether I found someone I liked enough. But this is looking way into the
future - I'm scaring myself now! And I've been studying genetics too long.

PineFox quoted:
>The indie scene is interested in precisely the jeopardising or loss of
>self >through terror or awe, precisely the absolute investment of the
>self....

Which I suppose is the whole point about good music. But too many songs
focus on love for another person as being the all-important thing, and it's
not really. Despite what I just said. That's why B&S are so wonderful -
they get to that magic, or, okay, loss of self, without that. The songs can
be about the shittiest things in life but still be full of beauty and hope
and truth. Someone said a while ago that they couldn't think of a B&S song
that could go on a crush tape and that's why.

The Offbeat night with all the good music was sold out! I thought there'd
be about three people there! And I even did wear a badge. Two of my friends
had decided not to go anyway cos that boy one of them fancies wasn't going,
but Jamie was going to come with me. We just went to the pub instead and
when we'd heard Road Rage by Catatonia for the second time we took over the
jukebox and put on David Bowie and Nirvana.

katy
x

"I got a Catholic block
Do you like to fuck?" - sonic youth


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From MBP99KLC at xxx.uk  Sun Mar 19 15:20:09 2000
From: MBP99KLC at xxx.uk (Katy)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 16:20:09 +0100
Subject: Sinister: You don't have to be cool to rule my world
Message-ID: <v01540b02b4fa9b9ee4c0@[143.167.67.55]>

Sorry, I know I've just posted, but I have to reply to this.

Qiyamat Boy said:

>I read here earlier someone said "I bet most of the people here haven't even
>heard"...I think it was a Dylan song or something. I see that a lot.
>Musical elitism...How you can assume that other people aren't as well versed as
>you, based merely on your own high self-esteem.

It was me, but that wasn't what I meant at all! Please believe me, cos I
hate musical show-offs too and I'm the last person who would be in a
position to show off - I was still listening to Take That when I was about
fifteen and most of the music I like now I was lucky enough to be played by
my ex-boyfriend or my friends so I certainly can't be superior in any way.

When I said that, I was asking about the tape tree, and the point I was
making was that there's some great music that I might have heard that most
of you haven't (like a Dylan bootleg my dad played me), and probably 1200
great songs that various other Sinisterines love that I've never heard, and
that it would be great if there was a way of hearing each other's favourite
songs, not so I can show off but because, as you say, "music is music. It's
nice, it's for the ears".

Actually, now that I'm on the subject, would anyone be interested in
joining a tape tree? The current one is already running. It's just where
everybody makes a mix tape and sends it to the person below them on a list,
and then every few weeks everyone sends that tape on, and so on. If
anyone's interested please email me. And you certainly don't have to be
cool or anything!

katy
x

"Oh lord,
Please don't let me be misunderstood"
  - someone, I'm not cool enough to know who


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From sebastian at xxx.com  Sun Mar 19 17:38:00 2000
From: sebastian at xxx.com (pedro simões)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 09:38:00 -0800
Subject: Sinister: stop crying child, you're making me cry too
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From lixibell at xxx.com  Sun Mar 19 19:39:42 2000
From: lixibell at xxx.com (alix campbell)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:39:42 GMT
Subject: Sinister: in my supermarket clothes
Message-ID: <20000319193942.32781.qmail@hotmail.com>


Hello. I�ve been to work again and this time I got to work with the fish. I 
had to wear big white wellies and a stripy apron and shut down the counter, 
which simply involved throwing water over everything and then sweeping the 
ice and water into the drain. Fun!

Piss Chris said:
please, people learn to spell. GRATE means a metal
thingie with slits for drainage, ect. it doesn't mean
"really, really good.". get back to school, the lotta
ya.

�GRATE� as a word denoting really good things, comes from the phrase �cheese 
grater�. Cheese is grated and eaten, and enjoyed a great (sic) deal. It has 
become popular among cheese afficionados (cf. Sarah Clarke, Tim Hopkins) to 
refer to a cheese session as �a spin with the grater� and like the word 
�groovy� which originally was used to describe a piece of particularly 
enjoyable piece of music (Shania Twain for example is not groovy, whilst 
Sarah Cracknell *is* groovy), has become a term that is used more often 
nowadays to describe a mental state of enjoying an action, rather than the 
mere physical action. So, although cheese is grated, and this action is 
known as �a grate�, the word �grate� has come, not just to show the action 
of grating, but also the result of the grating which is good, or grate. 
Lately, the usage �grate� has expanded, and is used to refer to anything 
that is really good.

Jason Andreas fish bar:
I'll give you a hearty handshake and a Radiohead
bootleg <grin>

Where I come from, �radiohead bootleg� is a euphemism for frottage which 
specifically involves clingfilm and hiccups.

I�m incredible excited about Clockwork Orange. I love Malcolm Macdowell, but 
only when he has no stupid beard like he had in Caligula. I can even 
understand Nadsat.

I need massaging. I ache.

Stuart Murdoch shopping. Aww. People look at me weird in shops, but it�s 
usually warranted. Like when it�s 3am and I�m in my pyjamas, or in summer 
when I�m barefoot in town.  Or that time I pretended to be a goth.

Accidentally got Bacardi Breezer cravings the other night so went to Dostlar 
Supermarket and got some. On a week night too.

If anyone wants to come and watch the sunset on Primrose Hill on Tuesday 
night, do come along, I�m going, cos I�ve not been in ages and it�s lovely 
pretty.

Lixi.xx


"Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's an 8 inch anal probe, silly" ~ 
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From feather-boa at xxx.com  Sun Mar 19 20:19:20 2000
From: feather-boa at xxx.com (feather boa)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:19:20 -0800
Subject: Sinister: visionary
Message-ID: <FBAEIHMCMPCCAAAA@shared3.whowhere.com>

my friend and i bought a super 8 camera in camden market yesterday.  it seems to work, but the man gave us a film to use and i looked at it today and it said "develop before dec 1979" - which was a bit scarey because that means that the film is older than me.  we filmed the gathering we had last nite, so i hope we can get it developed, it was fun.

then we're going to make a magnum opus, or maybe not.

pip pip,

FB

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From aconover at xxx.net  Sun Mar 19 11:44:29 2000
From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 06:44:29 -0500
Subject: Sinister: the american ace harmonica
Message-ID: <200003192252.RAA12239@s1.nassau.cv.net>

well, i have no grand ideas to pronounce today... i merely have a 
question or two.

you see, i'm a poor little US boy... and i desperately wish for some 
bullunsabazcheeun badges, and a copy of alastair's lovely book "young 
and foolish: a personal pop odyssey". see, but both of these are only 
attainable from UK sources... and i don't have any pounds, you know.

soo... are there any US sinistrals around who've gone through the 
process of getting badges and books from amazon.co.uk (i want nalda 
said, too!), and could give me a few pointers? or, would a UK 
sinistral be willing to cut a deal? i'm desperate... how will anyone 
know that i'm on sinister if i have nothing to turn upside down!

thank you, dearies.

- adam

aconover at optonline.net
Tempus Fugit is at:
 http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html
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From samiamx at xxx.com  Sun Mar 19 22:56:58 2000
From: samiamx at xxx.com (Sam Devere)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 14:56:58 PST
Subject: Sinister: Trash Can Sinatras and New Order (Non B&S)
Message-ID: <20000319225658.70097.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hey all...I haven't read any posts since the last DC picnic last summer, so 
please excuse my ignorance if this has been discussed.  Anyway, I know there 
are quite a few Trash Can Sinatras fans on this list who would be interested 
in this.  Trash Cans are playing dates in NYC, NJ and Philly over the next 
couple of weeks.  The web site is www.trashcansinatras.com.

Also, New Order has a new song on the Beach soundtrack.  It's pretty cool, 
it sounds a little like a more guitarry Regret or Brotherhood era stuff.  
The song is all over Napster if you wanna hear a sample.  BTW, not sure if 
Napster has been discussed on here and copyright infringements 
notwithstanding (and to paraphrase a valley girl) it totally rox.

NP: Jeff buckley's "Last Goodbye"

Sammy
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From benjbot at xxx.com  Sun Mar 19 14:17:25 2000
From: benjbot at xxx.com (Benjamin Dexter)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 14:17:25 AKST
Subject: Sinister: looper in la
Message-ID: <20000319231726.64940.qmail@hotmail.com>

I have heard that Looper will be playing at the El Ray theatre in Los 
Angeles on the thirtieth. Does anybody have more information on this? I'm in 
Alaska, but will be in LA at the end of the month. Are tickets needed in 
advance and if so, how may they be aquired. Any information would be nice. 
Thanks,
Benjamin Dexter
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From redelvis at xxx.net  Mon Mar 20 09:28:49 2000
From: redelvis at xxx.net (JR?)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:28:49 -0800
Subject: Sinister: looper in la
References: <20000319231726.64940.qmail@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <38D5EF51.8B29A7F6@pacbell.net>

Benjamin Dexter wrote:
> I have heard that Looper will be playing at the El Ray theatre in Los
> Angeles on the thirtieth. Does anybody have more information on this? I'm in
> Alaska, but will be in LA at the end of the month. Are tickets needed in
> advance and if so, how may they be aquired. Any information would be nice.

you can get them through ticketmaster.com ... you'll have to look under
Flaming Lips for them as they are just opening for Flaming Lips who are
an exceptional band in my opinion. 

they'll be playing twice...

http://www.ticketmaster.com

THE FLAMING LIPS (they dont list looper with them but they are...)
EL REY THEATRE
5515 WILSHIRE BLVD,LOS ANGELES
Date and Time: 
Wednesday, March 29, 2000 8:00PM 
Charge by Phone #: 213-480-3232 
Thursday, March 30, 2000 8:00PM
you can order online if you dont want to call long distance...

i'm going to the 30th show :)

i know that you think im a fool, daniel ryder the park ranger

http://foolarchy.com/redelvis <- march, 19 update!!!
http://www.gurlpages.com/music/jnthn
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From redelvis at xxx.net  Mon Mar 20 09:34:21 2000
From: redelvis at xxx.net (JR?)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:34:21 -0800
Subject: Sinister: looper in la/cancelation of the March 29th show?
References: <20000319231726.64940.qmail@hotmail.com>
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eeek! or did they cancel the 29th show? 

and the 30th show might be sold out according to...

http://www.goldenvoice.com/ca.html 

ahhhh!!!!!!

scalpers? i'm no help :( im sorry

i dont like this day, daniel ryder the park ranger

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From jcodyp at xxx.com  Mon Mar 20 09:50:08 2000
From: jcodyp at xxx.com (Cody Petterson)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 03:50:08 -0600
Subject: Sinister: Looper in Iowa City.
Message-ID: <38D5F450.7E99233C@home.com>

dear isle friends,

	saw looper last week in iowa city. a bit much sampling and electronics
for a live show, but stuart was really quite something. talked to the
boys (and chica) after the show as the lips played (with all the pomp
and vanity of caligula at the maximus) and they were genuinely in awe of
the flaming lips. i thought looper really played a better show, but you
all must be familiar with that queer british sincerity and earnestness
which makes them speak of and believe in their peers rather more
lauditorily than we yanks. sorry to say but i went home and threw on the
bowlie weekender and thought it much better fun. anyhow, just got back
from california and must read up on the messages. brought back san diego
sand for simon armitage with whom i'm studying for a poetry mfa from the
writers' workshop. i've heard poetry's popular over there. funny.
emailed erica mac about the state of things there. no reply but i'm
carefully holding down my disappointment. looking to studying
anglo-saxon on your island this summer. any suggestions? need an
american friend?

dearly,
cody
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From ksgljl78 at xxx.net  Mon Mar 20 18:13:12 2000
From: ksgljl78 at xxx.net (jason luther)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:13:12 -0500
Subject: Sinister: i just noticed all of my pants have little worn marks on the pockets from my chap stick
Message-ID: <006101bf9297$f58ae220$34891b26@oemcomputer>

isnt the word 'indiepop' an oxymoron? just a thought. messy hair would
defiantly have to be included in the list, along with stories of adolescent
hardships, and cellos in the music. im sure i could think of many others,
but i dont want to hog.
    i was intending on writing yesterday, it was sunday, so i was in a
terrible mood, but i was occupying my time making a mix tape for my friend
who is going to europe, she needed music to keep her head on the plane.
although she detests belle and sebastain, i still made a killer tape. since
today is monday, and i had a time fighting with my cunt of a boss just a
little while ago, i am feeling better. i love arguing, im GRATE at it. but
yesterday and this morning i felt like shit. i think i may be falling in
love with the girl im dating, but there is still a part of me that doesnt
want to, so im in a bit of a turmoil. sighhh.
    she isnt the girl i love now and will always love, but she is still a
very wonderful person. she challenges me, and makes fun of me. i love that.
people are afraid to challenge me and poke fun, even in good nature. i think
its because i am attractive and smart (im quite conceded too), but its like
people look at me differently, and are afraid i wont like them if they dont
treat me like a higher person. perhaps im wrong, and im totally obsessing
over this, but im afraid im right. being who i am is a major pain sometimes.
    last night my friends keep bringing up the topic of what i want to do
for the rest of my life. and thats like the thing that gets to me the most.
im 21, and going for a business degree, hate business, and have no idea what
i want to do. i know many others are in the same boat, but it just really
gets to me. so the whole time during dinner (after seeing'american beauty'
no less) i had to explain what i think about doing and what i dont want to
do. at this point i just want to be like 'kane in kung fu, you know, walk to
earth' (yes i stole that, but from where....?)
    well..... my piss mood has returned, time to go pick a fight
    have a fulfilling day,

    jason the confused

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From smiley at xxx.uk  Mon Mar 20 16:03:09 2000
From: smiley at xxx.uk (Mike)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:03:09 -0000
Subject: Sinister: There are some days that catch the light...
Message-ID: <000101bf9298$6b585aa0$885d883e@n8j4k7>

Hello,

    I have had a lovely day. In the morning I had what you could call (if
you were little Jen) a grate adventure. It started when I got to school and
went for the bus (my sixth form is spread out between three schools and we
have to travel around town in buses. Which is nice). There were lots of
policemen walking around inspecting our buses, each one had vehicle
inspectorate written on his back. We watched these policemen with interest
for a while. Eventually (and with us already ten minutes late for our first
lessons) they let us go, despite the fact that the engine had a bit of
trouble starting and the emergency doors wouldn't open.
    When we got to school the rest of my English class was just standing
around. Apparently our class had been cancelled for today. I couldn't be
bothered to go home, so I had two hours to kill. Me and a girl from my
English class went into town. First we went to Woolworth's and played with
the toys. We kept playing with the ones that make funny noises and nearly
got thrown out. Then we went to a bookstore where I got the copy of Nalda
Said I'd ordered. Then we went to a pet shop and looked at the rabbits and
the gerbils for a while, and then we went back to school for our school
photo.
    This was all lovely. Although Computing in the afternoon was pants.
    And tomorrow will be grate as well, because I only have two lessons and
one of them is General Studies, so I won't go. (For those not in the know,
General Studies is a non-subject. They might as well teach you to serve
fries for all the good it will do you. I can't even tell you what it's
about, because we don't get taught anything).
    And yesterday we went for a picnic and watched the sky cloud over during
the course of two hours. It is the first time in living memory I have driven
anywhere and not narrowly avoided a fatal accident.
    And I'd just like to say to anyone who has been known to write e-mails
to me that when I said:

>This is probably just an ignorance of netiquette (dread net geek word),
>but how does one know when to stop sending people e-mails? I mean when
>someone writes to me, it's only polite to write back. Then they get the
>reply and it's only polite to reply to the reply, and so on. I suppose if
>someone gets tired of hearing from me they could always tell me to f***
off.
>But that wouldn't be very twee now would it?

I didn't actually want you to stop writing to me. My daily download is the
highlight of my day (how sad). I just worry that I myself might annoy people
sometimes with my long boring and bery frequent messages. Like this one, in
fact.

God be with you,
Mike
smiley at rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk
http://www.rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk

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From jcodyp at xxx.com  Mon Mar 20 18:18:55 2000
From: jcodyp at xxx.com (Cody Petterson)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:18:55 -0600
Subject: Sinister: Simon Armitage in BFE Iowa City.
Message-ID: <38D66B8F.7B5E8546@home.com>

first off, you sinisterines are warm and helpful. second, thanks stevie,
sorry mike the b&s bowlie, and cress i mean "the" simon armitage
(rockstar or no, he's damn funny and a swell guy). third, what's a
badge? I mean, we have "patches" which are embroidered fabric pieces
which are sewn to jackets and such, or "buttons" which are round, pinned
bobbles which have an appropriate image on their face, and we have
"badges" which are pinned stars which cops wear to let you know that if
you don't cooperate they have a large firearm which they can shoot you
with. Which do you mean? fourth, one of the best things about english
language music in foreign dialects is that they words are often so
"oddly" pronounced, the listener gets to insert their own, personally
applicable, word. for instance, i always thought slow graffitti said,
"there's a poetry in the back room," meaning there is a poetry to even
the most prosaic of settings or moments, and then "help me please
interpret history in every line in scot," thus evoking the way in which
language is a constantly developing historical record. take a listen and
see what i mean. maybe we could all talk about things we "thought" b&s
said (have "we" all already done that?). anyhoo, may you all be
favorites among fortune's many playthings, thanks, and more questions
about british vernacular to come.

dearly,
cody

ps nobody reads simon in america. for that matter, nobody reads frost or
whitman or dickinson. nobody reads poetry period. i'm not bitter, i'm
just clarifying.

pss BFE is an acronym for "But% F$*k Egypt" and means the dust-ridden,
forsaken, up-sh^t-creek-without-a-paddle, middle of nowhere.
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From jcodyp at xxx.com  Mon Mar 20 18:25:54 2000
From: jcodyp at xxx.com (Cody Petterson)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:25:54 -0600
Subject: Sinister: Great word.
Message-ID: <38D66D32.11A40043@home.com>

What's "twee" mean? It's a great word. I think you guys are the bomb!
Keep talking.

dearly,
cody
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From rarepleasures at xxx.net  Mon Mar 20 18:25:38 2000
From: rarepleasures at xxx.net (Tony Charles Green)
Date: 20 Mar 00 18:25:38 GMT
Subject: Sinister: The Clientele 
Message-ID: <20000320182538.12444.qmail@nwcst314.netaddress.usa.net>

If you hurry over to Insound you might just be able to catch The Clientele
chat thats taking place tonight...
I'll bring the tea and biscuits...


Tony


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From jcodyp at xxx.com  Mon Mar 20 19:46:29 2000
From: jcodyp at xxx.com (Cody Petterson)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:46:29 -0600
Subject: Sinister: Laura and her wondrous book.
Message-ID: <38D68015.4AEA5A68@home.com>

must say, something like the sinister list is a terrifying thing.
high-qual bands like b&s, the mag fields, guided by vox, with their
lyrics and "their catchy tunes" threaten poetry. i mean this with no
sincerity and would myself prefer listening to sam cooke than reading
wordsworth. nonetheless it's good to hear about laura and her wondrous
book. by the way, simon reads this batman poem where robin accuses
batman of being a "beh'-beh". is that common, pronouncing "baby"
(am.eng. bay'-bee) as beh'-beh? incidentally, fat bastard pronounces it
the same way in austin powers 2 (sorry scots for mentioning such a
demeaning representation of scottish food consumption and clothing
style).

dearly,
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From feather-boa at xxx.com  Mon Mar 20 21:28:07 2000
From: feather-boa at xxx.com (feather boa)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:28:07 -0800
Subject: Sinister: whimsy
Message-ID: <IDPNMPKDBFFHAAAA@shared3.whowhere.com>

my mum's art director called in sick today, and he said "i can't come in today, i'm feeling whimsical". isn't that brilliant? i want to phone the school tomorrow and say "i can't come in today, i'm feeling twee" and go and make super 8 films with the ducks in regents' park.

i'm reading behind the scenes at the museum by kate atkinson at the moment, it's amazingly good.  i hope the siniville bookshop has it in stock.

pip pip,

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From Walkn10 at xxx.com  Tue Mar 21 03:58:43 2000
From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:58:43 EST
Subject: Sinister: I may not always love you, but long as there are stars above you...
Message-ID: <bb.1caf7c8.26084d73@aol.com>

Ahhh...Spring Break...the Nectar of the Gods(tm).  One entire week given to 
college students to get piss drunk and sleep til late afternoon.  Being odd, 
I spent the first day of my reprieve at the Antietam battlefield, which is 
the site of the bloodiest single day in American History.  It wasn't very 
heart-pumping or anything, but it was pretty revelatory and I guess thats on 
the plus side.  To try and picture these assaults actually happening, given 
that you know how they turned out, is pretty stomach turning.  I had an 
ancestor who fought there although I can't "feel" his presence or anything 
like alot of people say they do when visiting the site of their ancestor's 
struggles.  I just felt cold and upset over having to pay $9 for a turkey 
club sandwich.
I found out that Brian Wilson is doing an "Orchestral Tour"(tm) this summer, 
where he'll perform Pet Sounds in its entirety backed by a 24-peice 
orchestra.  I can't even imagine how amazing that is going to be.  I wish he, 
Al Jardine, Mike Love and Bruce Johnston would make up just for this summer 
so the shows can really be true to the album.  Then they can resume hating 
each other, but only after I've heard Mike and Brian trade lead vocals on 
"Sloop John B" and ""That's Not Me."  That is all I ask.  As Sally Brown said 
"I'm not being selfish; all I want is what I have coming to me."
What does everyone think is going to be the best song on FYHCYWLAP, based on 
the title alone?  I'm going with "I Fought In A War," just because Struan 
writing about war seems pretty interesting.  I mean, I'm sure its not about 
war itself or anything, but it still seems pretty snazzy.  "The Model" is 
right up there too.
Some psycho has taken three hostages and holed himself up right down the 
street my town.  He's in a townhouse community, so about 300 people can't go 
back to their houses and they all must live in the gym of a local elementary 
school until all is over with.  I'm not sure what the deal is with their 
pets...I saw alot of old people crying on the news because they can't get 
into their community to feed their cats.  The standoff has been going on for 
about 75 hours now and I'm guessing it shan't last much longer.  The nutjob 
has already killed 4 people in the past two weeks and my bet is that before 
he surrenders, he'll be the fifth.
A round of applause for Katy for saying she played Nirvana on the jukebox.  I 
think alot of my generation, now that we've all grown up and moved onto other 
musical frontiers, is trying to downplay how much Nirvana changed our lives.  
Sure, I don't listen to Nevermind all that much anymore but I can guarantee 
that were it not for Kurt Cobain most of us would probably be complete 
toolboxes, myself included.  If you didn't like Nirvana in '92, then you 
weren't really there.
Will the long-awaited Sinisiter US Directory(tm) be finished before B&S begin 
their tour?  It would really come in handy to know who lives in what city for 
those folks who plan to go to several shows and want to meet other 
Sinister-ites in foreign cities.  If anyone else is going to the Flaming 
Lips/Looper show in Baltimore on April 14th, I'll be there.
Cheers and wrecked NCAA brackets (I picked 6 of the Sweet 16 after winning 29 
of the first 32 games)...

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From secretmysterydate at xxx.com  Tue Mar 21 05:22:17 2000
From: secretmysterydate at xxx.com (brand new shoes)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:22:17 EST
Subject: Sinister: i am too wussy...
Message-ID: <20000321052217.50120.qmail@hotmail.com>

So okay...
			I go to a show, that i don't even really want to go to that much (the 
smugglers, the fast tracks, and the donnas: a pretty good pop-punk/rock 
collection, but not really my thing, y'know?) with the sole intent of 
getting the Donnas to sign something for my friend angela who is a big fan 
and is off in Melbourn Australia. So i sit through the whole thing and at 
the end i am to wussy to go up and ask them to sign anything, because i feel 
all dorky. i'm too self conscious i think, i got all concerned about seeming 
like some crazed fan, or one of the many ditsy pop-punk boys there swooning 
over them. grrr.
now i feel like a complete dork.
damn.
trying to rekindle a sense of pride,
sam
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From RythSoul at xxx.com  Tue Mar 21 07:50:46 2000
From: RythSoul at xxx.com (RythSoul at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 02:50:46 EST
Subject: Sinister: i am too wussy...
Message-ID: <14.1d10508.260883d6@aol.com>

This is my first time contributing to the list, and I'm not really sure why I 
haven't before, but I just felt strangely compelled to make tonight the 
night. 
    
I guess i'll start off by introducing myself. My name's lissa, pronounced 
lisa...for some reason my mother felt the need to stick an extra s in there. 
i'm 17 and was introduced to the magic of belle and sebastian last year by 
this incredible boy whom i was madly in love with, who (as my luck would have 
it) later announced HIS interest in incredible boys. But that's okay...i am 
dealing with it well and have since moved on.
    
    So with that I respond to Sam and his feeling like "a complete dork". I 
too have branded myself a dork, more often a nerd, and at times a spaz...it 
depends on my mood and sometimes my caffeine intake. No need to feel like a 
dork because you could not ask for an autograph, feel like a dork only when 
there is absolutely no excuse that you shouldn't. Such as when you have begun 
to plan your future with your "straight" best friend of three years, only to 
find out that he too is interested only in incredible boys.

    Wow - i think i have just depressed myself. yes, i definitely have. time 
to spend the evening with radiohead. and if anyone knows whether they share 
an interest in incredible boys as well, please let me know. that way i can 
crush all of my dreams by the end of this week.

    goodnight-
    Lissa
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From elenita99 at xxx.com  Tue Mar 21 12:09:08 2000
From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita99)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:09:08 CET
Subject: Sinister: I'm a grown-up!
Message-ID: <20000321110908.80729.qmail@hotmail.com>

This morning my first coffee tasted like washing-up, as very often on 
Tuesday. Tuesday is even worse than Monday cos you realise that Monday 
wasn�t just a bad dream and you�ll had to go through all the week.
Anyway, I arrived at work in a quite grey mood, I admit, wondering if 
something would cheer me up�here it is, I am going out of the nursery said 
Honey, I�m a grown-up now ! !(what a joke :-)
So�should I introduce myself ? I suppose I should. My name is Elena, I�m 20 
(I'm supposed to be a grown-up indeed..), I�m a mix of French and Spanish 
blood living in London ; I suppose it won�t surprise if I say I like music 
more than lots of things, and what else? Oh yeah I�m running the toyshop in 
SV, I enjoy that much more than my real job in the real life ! Anyway�I 
accept any further question!
I'm happy to be part of you, I feel quite comfortable here reading your 
posts and hanging around the SV�
And for the B&S content in this�well I�m afraid there�s not ! Sorry about 
that, I�ll do better next time! :->

Love to you all, hope you'll have a very nice day
Elena

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From holly9 at xxx.au  Tue Mar 21 22:06:30 2000
From: holly9 at xxx.au (holly9 at xxx.au)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:06:30 Australia/NSW
Subject: Sinister: Tongue Tied
Message-ID: <200003211205.MAA17048@missprint.org>

And now for the obligatory first posting!!

I have been avoiding this as I had absolutely no idea of what to say but then 
the very reason I have been enjoying Sinister is the fact that it doesn't seem 
to matter all that much WHAT you say (if that makes sense). It is so refreshing 
to come across a list where the biggest debate is not who has the best haircut, 
or who do you most want to shag, while I think everyone should have a good dose 
of shallow silliness now and then I prefer the Sinister threads....they are 
much more interesting.

Hmmmm enough butt kissing for now don't you think ?

I had the privilege of driving over the Blue Mountains listening to Tigermilk 
and The Boy With The Arab Strap over the weekend....I highly reccomend it, just 
loverly.

Introductions all round...I'm Holly and I'm from Australia, I am merely months 
off finishing my psychology degree and I don't mind admitting that I'm scared 
shitless of entering the 'real' world. I've been putting it off but I guess it 
has to come around sometime..DAMNDAMNDAMN!!! 

I did pick up my Lazy Line Painter Jane box ysterday which cheered me up and I 
discovered that one of my good friends was also a huge B&S fan but we just 
never thought to mention it! Just think of all the time we've wasted!

Roite I think I've wasted enoug of your time....for now hahaaa!!

Holly

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From rarepleasures at xxx.net  Tue Mar 21 12:09:00 2000
From: rarepleasures at xxx.net (Tony Charles Green)
Date: 21 Mar 00 12:09:00 GMT
Subject: Sinister: The glitterati arrive by limousine
Message-ID: <20000321120901.29048.qmail@nwcst286.netaddress.usa.net>

The showbiz world is all-a-buzz, not by the news that Madonna is up-the-duff
but by the rumour that the wholly glamourous and devilishly stylist Miss Erica
MacArthur is to be the cover star of the next issue of Papercuts. Hello
Kitten. and even as we type adolescent young men with consumptive complexions
and stars in their eyes are queing up outside the Spitz ready to buy this
vestige of their idol when it goes on sale on thurs...

t



 

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From secretmysterydate at xxx.com  Tue Mar 21 13:05:54 2000
From: secretmysterydate at xxx.com (brand new shoes)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:05:54 EST
Subject: Sinister: a tired whiny boy
Message-ID: <20000321130554.13808.qmail@hotmail.com>

oy...
i just wanted to post for pity as i haven't slept since my last post and it 
is 8:00 in the morning here. i can't sleep either because i have a class in 
half an hour. (whimper whimper)
I went home hoping for unconditional love from my kittens, and they were 
grumpy at me because they were low on food and i had locked them out of my 
room because i have feathers everywhere for this dress i'm designing. they 
hate me now.
no
i guess they still like me, but they were very distant.
(whimper)
i have to go draw naked people for my anatomy class soon and i just want to 
go take a nap. at least we don't have to draw cadavers today. that would be 
the worst.
okay,
sorry for this little bitch session. i don't mean to be so pathetic. i'm 
really not in so bad a state, just a little whiny.
hmmm,
a bright smiley "ciao" to all, (see, not so bad, yeah?)
love,
sam
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From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk  Tue Mar 21 13:53:09 2000
From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?stevie_trouss=E9?=)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:53:09 -0000
Subject: Sinister: The squids are all right
Message-ID: <01bf933c$caab2d80$0300a8c0@g5-200-3>

At ease, comrades

What ho! I was shocked to read an article in today's Guardian on the top 10
rock and roll hellraisers of all time, referring to a feature in this week's
Melody Maker (the kind of journalism that has made it the vital force in
British music it so obviously is), and find no reference to our beloved
oddball twangling-jack-and-jills. Wither Stu M's auto-destructive guitar
abuse in Dublin? or Sarah's alka-seltzer and haliborange binge at Bowlie? or
Mick Cooke's nude rampage through the streets of Edinburgh...?

Gah.

I was interested to see the return of Simon Reynolds to the sinister list,
courtesy of my learned Brockley correspondent. The essay is certainly
interesting, mostly - from my point of view - for illustrating how far his
vision of criticism has moved from a broadly subcultural-Hebdigean analysis
to the Barthesian formalist abdication of analysis he favours today. I think
he would do well to have a second look at it himself. Mr Reynolds did
actually list B&S as one of the most over-rated things of (was it?) 1998 on
his website, which I can't be bothered to look for the url of. More in
response to the doxa of indie-pop opinion than anything else I imagine.
Indeed, I think he's a subtle enough critic to appreciate that the
unclassifiable beauty of melody is just as radical as the most jouissant
code-jamming.

Ahem.

Mr Tony kindly mentioned the low-key launch on Thursday in London of a
fanzine I'm involved in. Loathe though I am to deluge Sinister with
self-publicity, might I ask people to point their tapetty-lightboxes in the
direction of www.papercuts.co.uk later this afternoon for fuller details. It
has also come to my attention that some people who had ordered previous
issues may not have received them because I am a lazy git. Rest assured that
I am also too lazy to have cashed cheques. If this is the case with you,
please email me at my swanky new email address: trousers at papercuts.co.uk and
I will apologise in a fashion so abject it is not becoming a man who just
noted grey hairs peeking through his stubble this weekend. And you will be
fully compensated with apes, ivory and peacocks.

You know, it has come to my attention that several of our old guard have
defected to a gothlist devoted to the new Al Stewart, called "Bat Wings". I
say we challenge them to a fight in the quad at first light, before the
deportment mistress is up and about.

As you were

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From odonnell.k at xxx.com  Tue Mar 21 14:08:20 2000
From: odonnell.k at xxx.com (Katrina O'Donnell)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:08:20 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Sinister....I wish I was
Message-ID: <A3CAE143488CD311941A00902719F8380CD69C@sweeper.bhwg.com>

Hello my name is Kat and I am a alcoholic. I'm not really an alcoholic but I
thought that would be a good introduction seeing as it is my first post.

B&S content: I hope they release Eps rather than singles, you get much more
music for your money. In the run up to the album do you think they will do
any TV? I'm thinking them on later with Jools Holland would be quite
marvellous.

Ever wondered why jaffa cakes weren't called jaffa biscuits? It is because
chocolate covered biscuits are considered a luxury item where as chocolates
covered cakes are not. This means you have to pay VAT on biscuits with
chocolate on top, so to save themselves money McVities named them jaffa
cakes. The government took them to court to say they were actually biscuits
and the way they proved there were infact cakes was to make a massive big
one to show it looks like a cake and they also said when biscuits are stale
they go soft but when cakes are stale they go hard. I am sorry if I spoilt
anyone's romantic notion of the world, but this shows everything in the real
world seems to revolve around money.

One last question before I go, at work we have a radio and because I am out
numbered I have to listen to crapital fm all day. Could anyone tell me if
there are any human rights laws against this?

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From lucy.alder at xxx.uk  Tue Mar 21 14:08:08 2000
From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:08:08 -0000
Subject: Sinister:  Dirty!
Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F335309E@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk>

Dear little innocent Holly, straight out of the nursery and all wet behind
the ears said
>>It is so refreshing  to come across a list where the biggest debate is
not...who do you most want to shag

How long is it that newbies stay in the nursery these days?  Two weeks?
Does that mean there hasn't been any filth for TWO WHOLE WEEKS?  Where are
the Sinister smutmeisters when you need them?  I feel the burden weighing
heavily on my shoulders, but I'm far to good a girl to write about that sort
of stuff.  I might blush.  I might blush even more than when I mentioned
wanking in front of my manager this morning.  You know when you get an email
that makes you laugh out loud and then everybody around you asks "what's so
funny?" and you're sort of obliged to explain?  That's what happened today
and the email mentioned the word 'wank'.  So then, I became embroiled in a
discussion about wanking in America and whether or not it exists, and I said
"I think the word is not so frequently used, but as for the activity..." and
it all got a bit embarrassing, see?  And I hung my head in shame that my
colleagues could hear me talking so.  Now you see why I'm no good at writing
smutty posts and why I'm burning up as I type this.

And here I am, being an old miseryguts about the dearth of rude stuff, and
into my inbox pops psychic Sam with
>>naked people
which will do for now. 

But come on folks, spring is sprung!  Birds are NESTING on the windowsill
outside my bog!  Bunny rabbits are presumably AT IT like, um, bunny rabbits
up and down the country!  I know it's Lent at the moment, but honestly!
Sinister smutmeisters!  Show us how it's done - make me snigger!  And the
rest of you, let me recommend an author called Georges Bataille, who is a
master of all things rude.  And I really do mean ALL things rude.

Right, on to other stuff.  Why does a brand new denim jacket cost £30  and a
second-hand one £40 in Topshop, eh?  What is this?  Antiques Roadshow?  When
I was a kid, you wore second hand things because they were cheap, and then
PRETENDED you were being groovy.  Why, it wasn't unusual to mistake a
student for a tramp, especially if they had a bottle of White Lightning in
their hand.  And what are those ridiculous new pantaloons that people are
calling Levis?  (Lucy shakes her stick and growls menacingly) Young'uns
these days, really!  Pass the Werthers Originals, will you?

According to new research High Fidelity is a 'boy book'.  I read this in
Metro, so it must be true.

Terry Hall was 41 on Sunday.

Socialise with Pukka Pies.

Juicy Lucy


ps.  according to my spellcheck, Topshop should be Topcon and Pukka should
be Puke, which seems about right to me.













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From bazej at xxx.com  Tue Mar 21 16:56:32 2000
From: bazej at xxx.com (Josh Baze)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:56:32 -0600
Subject: Sinister: high fidelity
In-Reply-To: <200003050423.EAA09981@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000321105632.0071e650@marketingcomm.com>

went and saw "high fidelity" last night and it was one of the best times
i've had at the movies in a long, long time.  those of you who've read the
book won't be disappointed, especially with cusack.  what a winner.  he's
great.

"seymour stein" features prominently in the film, and i think you'll all
enjoy that.  

look for the cameo by depeche mode's "condemnation" 12".  go read the book,
or a book, and see the film.

10-4

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From bellezc at xxx.com  Tue Mar 21 17:14:33 2000
From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:14:33 PST
Subject: Sinister: i'm *@#&!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <20000321171433.89809.qmail@hotmail.com>

hi everyone.hope everything is fine for all of you because FOR ME IT'S 
NOT!!!i just made a major fuck up with one of my essays and i am just 
looking for some support even though i shouldn't really be doing this.
anyway all that happened is that i had an essay due for today and i haven't 
given it and i am so angry with myself!!!!!
anyway,bye now. i am going to jump out of the window.minor detail the fact 
that i'm on the ground floor now but at least i will have the opportunity to 
committ suicide several times....
bye bye cruel world....
zoe
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From cfu at xxx.us  Tue Mar 21 17:32:07 2000
From: cfu at xxx.us (Fu)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:32:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: high fidelity
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20000321105632.0071e650@marketingcomm.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.1000321123023.20476A-100000@bookworm>



All B&S lovers---- Hey. I agree with Josh; since I finished the book "High
Fidelity"; and it is GREAT!!! Now I must see the movie. Take
care. ---Chiang



On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Josh Baze wrote:

> went and saw "high fidelity" last night and it was one of the best times
> i've had at the movies in a long, long time.  those of you who've read the
> book won't be disappointed, especially with cusack.  what a winner.  he's
> great.
> 
> "seymour stein" features prominently in the film, and i think you'll all
> enjoy that.  
> 
> look for the cameo by depeche mode's "condemnation" 12".  go read the book,
> or a book, and see the film.
> 
> 10-4
> 
> Josh
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From martin at xxx.uk  Tue Mar 21 21:09:37 2000
From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:09:37 +0000
Subject: Sinister: AnTiciPate
Message-ID: <8WMCoIARU+14EwWR@send.demon.co.uk>

Lovely people,
 
Get your dancing shoes a ready London for there's a new
shindig in town. Or something... Thursday April 6th, the
day before some of us set out for Camber. Mark that date
in your little fluffy diaries carefully, there will be a
pre-ATP do, going by the moniker of AnTiciPate, at the
Betsey Trottwood in good old London town, Great Britain.
There will be a couple of bands, who will be starring on
the new CD from the out oh so very soon Papercuts issue,
and top DJ-ing skillz playing all your favourite tunes
from the hours of say 7.30 pm till about 12 for just 3
English pounds. What a cracking bargain I hear you say.
And you'd be right... If you need any info mail me or my
more coherent conspirator Drunken Matt
(the_fear66 at hotmail.com) and we'll tell you something
nice... Otherwise just be there or there's big
trouble.

Te ra,

Martin

ear confection recordings
(http://www.send.demon.co.uk)
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From Macarthur at xxx.com  Tue Mar 21 23:34:16 2000
From: Macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:34:16 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Sophisticated Boom Boom
Message-ID: <002d01bf938d$f9dac880$7b3863c3@com>

Hello peeps,

Today seems like a good day to make a bit of a come-back. I have spent some
time in the wildeness, but, as always, the music sounds better with you.
There have been lots of introductions at the moment, so hello those fresh
from the nursery.

I bought a compliation by Dishy Records recently called 'pearl necklace'.
It's very good. I'm hoping it's innocently named after the real thing, and
not the rude innuendo, because, like Lucy, I blush when things get smutty
round here. Saying this, me and my partner in crime Hannahdoll have recently
invented a new board game, based on Cluedo, called LEWDO. It's basically the
same as Cluedo, except it's lewd. For example, Colonel Mustard is the
kitchen, choking the chicken. We're going to patent it.

There's a programme on the television right now about eating dog meat, which
I'm finding espcially entertaining as I turned down the offer of a kebab for
my dinner this evening. I hate dogs, espcially the Austrian one that ate my
bikini on holiday last year. I'm not sure I could eat a whole one, mind.

I can confirm Tony's rumour that I'm going to star on the cover of the next
issue of Trousercuts, and may I also take this oppertunity to affirm -
contrary to popular opinion - that I did *not* achieve this honour by sexual
favours. You should all know by now that I save such services for my
listcrush votes.

Erica
x

the "wholly glamourous and devilishly stylish"
House of Scarlet:
http://www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty/index.html

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From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk  Tue Mar 21 19:35:33 2000
From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:35:33 +0000
Subject: Sinister: "Peckham: A Piss-poor Prospect"
Message-ID: <802568A9.006C14A5.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk>



When I was looking for Simon Reynolds's website, I came across this, which made
me laugh:

"But already this year we're hearing great pop singles again - The Telescopes'
"To Kill A Slow Girl Walking" EP could quite easily make it onto Radio l,
Birdland are there, so are And Why Not?"

It's from Steve Sutherland in 1990.  He certainly doesn't know his P!O!P! from
his P!A!P!, does he?

I also found this, in an account of 'The Rise And Fall Of British Alternative
Music' at http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~tewing/ukalt.html

"1986-1988 are fairly bleak years for UK alternative music - hordes of fine
individual records, no overall direction. Simon Reynolds' superb book Blissed
Out does a better job than I ever could summarising and criticising the various
trends in music at the high watermark of Thatcherism. His preferred brand of
rock was epic in sound and scope without being epic in terms of ego - the
'oceanic rock' of the excellent My Bloody Valentine and AR Kane. Some attempt
was being made to come to terms with hip-hop, though nothing terribly exciting
came of it. Velvets and Smiths fetishism continued to thrive, as did small-scale
indie music of the Sarah variety, often derided as twee and unambitious when all
it wanted to do was touch people's hearts like punk had, but with less
aggression and on a one-to-one basis instead of as part of a mass movement."

I'm a bit young to be into this whole 80's MM writers cult.  I was mainly an NME
boy anyway -  Melody Maker seemed to be into goth quite a lot.  I'm not tempted
by Simon Reynolds's vision of epic rock, I have to say.   Sounds a bit stinky.
My Bloody Valentine were good and everything, but I couldn't look my kids in the
eye and say "The trouble with music today is that it's not sufficiently epic in
sound and scope".

Anyway, good to see someone reminding us that 'twee' is a pejorative term.  I
have discovered that the Sinister village has the slogan 'A Twee Community'.
Hmm.  Doesn't have the same ring as 'Glasgow's Miles Better', or 'Hertfordshire:
A Progressive County'.  What was that one that Catford had?

Nick xx



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From TheeXVirus at xxx.com  Wed Mar 22 04:42:55 2000
From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:42:55 EST
Subject: Sinister: Nick Drake Amazon Rank : 9
Message-ID: <c6.2e459be.2609a94f@aol.com>

Thought people may be interested to hear that Nick Drake's Pink Moon LP is 
ranked #9 in sales on Amazon.com.  One neat thing, under the little 
Amazon.com thingie listing other artists whose records people who buy NDrake 
records also buy, Belle & Sebastian is listed.  It'd be neat to see how much 
of an impact this VW commercial has on Belle & Sebastian's fan base.  

sined j.
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From TheeXVirus at xxx.com  Wed Mar 22 04:44:03 2000
From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:44:03 EST
Subject: Sinister: Visiting Paris Need Help
Message-ID: <11.2043317.2609a993@aol.com>

I'm leaving for Paris tomorrow and through the 30th.  Could anyone here maybe 
let me know any good record shops, or if there are any concerts happening 
there during this time?  Thanks.

Also, going to Amsterdam at some point during the trip.  Any info. about 
events/shops there would be just as nice.

sined J .
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From carrick44 at xxx.com  Wed Mar 22 07:02:16 2000
From: carrick44 at xxx.com (Carrick Blair)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:02:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: belle letters
Message-ID: <20000322070216.154.qmail@web3301.mail.yahoo.com>

Dear all,

Its much to late to be doing this. Late for me at
least. I haven't done so in so long, I forgotten all
that I want to share with you. Things are slowly
coming back now. Lurking is very, very bad. Don't try
it kids. You start to feel guilty and well whatever, 
it's all good, right?

So last time i wrote a 'real' message to this here
list, was over a year ago. It happened to be about a
16 year old girl. I'm frightened because someone
mentioned that to me just a few weeks ago. I'd hate to
leave all of you who remember back that far that I'm
some sort of jailbait stalker. I'm not, I'm serious.
I've moved on...to a 17 year old girl. No, just
kidding.

I went to England, you know. Last March. Scotland as
well. (btw I wrote the band about taking me out to
breakfast, like Stuart promised he would when they
cancelled the Philly and Toronto shows. They didn't
get back to me till after I already left, so I missed
out. But they did get back to me, phone numbers and
everything. Nice people, huh?)

Highlights include...
I can't rember any right now. There was the evening
spent having drinks at the Voodoo Lounge with four
London business women. I showed off my recently
purchased Strawberry Switchblade 12"s and they were
all very much impressed. One even claimed that she
used to dress like a Strawberry Switchblade. She also
said she had just gone to see Mogwai. I smiled, I
didn't have the heart to tell her that Mogwai are
evil.

Belle And Sebastian weddings.
If any of you lot ever get married, and I think some
of you our engaged and such. You must realise that
Belle and Sebastian make the reception that much more
enjoyable. Especially if your outside dancing in a
field under a full moon with all your favorite people,
drinking whiskey out of tea cups. "Get me away from
here, I'm dying" --- I could have died that night. And
have done so supremely happy. Well almost. Every
Saturday night should be like that. Falling asleep in
gardens, waking up to birds singing and views of red
moons and pretty girls sleeping around bonfires "To
come home each night smelling of bonfires..."

Sorry to go on and on about a wedding that happened
last September, and most of you didn't go to. There
were at least 5 or 6 listees or former listees in
attendance, so I guess it could be considered a
'meet-up". The last message I sent, I think I
mentioned that this couple had gotten engaged, so I
think I'm obligated to tell you about the wedding. And
if I remember there was an actual 'Sinister' wedding
that same weekend. It was a 'lovely day for love'.

That's all I wanted to say.
Flying to London tomorrow. Will be at the Papercuts
show. I mean the Trembling Blue Stars/Fosca/Clientele
show. I think I'll have a Stars badge on upside down
so if you want to say hi, go ahead, I'll be all by
myself and want to go dancing at some point this
weekend.

so how old is this Erica?
(kidding again)

love
Carrick

ps I hope Honey had a good time in New York, or is
having a good time. Sorry I missed him, or missing
him.
When do you get back to London? Oh and Honey, thanks
for posting that link to the site with all those
questions about the Bible and Christianity a while
back. After a couple of hours of intensive study I
found my faith strengthened ten fold. 


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From julesmarkham at xxx.net  Wed Mar 22 08:45:27 2000
From: julesmarkham at xxx.net (julesmarkham)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:45:27 -0000
Subject: Sinister: talk about floodgates!
Message-ID: <005901bf93db$17b63040$db54ac3e@Georgetesco.net>

whew!
little did I know my first post would cause such a reaction!
So I will be spending the next few days hunched in front of my stereo,
carefully selecting beautiful music and annoying the local post office
('Mexico?Sparks? Why can't you write to people in this country?')hehehe!
Is it okay If I inflict a couple of my short stories on you folks? I'd like
to hear some responses..
jules.

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From apytmw at xxx.uk  Wed Mar 22 11:47:15 2000
From: apytmw at xxx.uk (Mark)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:47:15 -0000
Subject: Sinister: i am the virgin, the tattered & the torn.... 
Message-ID: <E12XjbO-0002PC-00@nottingham.ac.uk>

Howdy Y'all...

Big fat memory blurrs characterie this week, so yr mostly spared 
the 'dear diary' style entries.  Although I must say, having woken 
up very hung over this morning after a night of mixing with minor 
celebs, I did NOT appreciate my pants being knicked at 10 in the 
morning... the offending pant thief is currently serving time in the 
nursery, I believe; just an interesting thought that currently my 
undewear is being abused by all the bastard kids in there... 
oibviously the Lego and Honey's inflatable sex toys just arn't 
enough for the little darlings nowadays.  I don't know... kids; 
bastards.

Luckily, I have another pair to wear.  Lucky old me, I say, coz 
trouser draughts are almost as bad as as poo.

I got an email this morning involving lifeguards, shagging repeatedly 
in the changing rooms, and Graham Coxon.  In my delerious state, 
I thought I had hot gosip about Graham and some hunky lifeguard 
at it like rabbit in the changing rooms...

I was in a delirious state because I found out that MY TOUNGE IS 
GREEN... fucking icky green too.  Now this obviously means I'll be 
dead soon, so this could well be my last post.  Bollocks.  I hate 
green... it clashes with everything.

Erica made me laugh... chocking the chicken is a very funny thing 
to say.  I don't know why.  Suggestion: use her sexual favours as a 
new currency on the list for tape swaps etc.  OK, maybe not.

Hi mimmie, welcome to Sinister.  Can I please have my pants back 
soon????

I'm playing a really badly scratched David Bowie record really loud 
at the mo.  Coz we're lovers....  oh hes a foxy devil...

Ah, now I've got Disorder by Joy Div on....  foxier and foxier.  Music 
to pin you down and corrupt you utterly.  Beauty is an infectious 
thing.  So is green toungness, I hope, coz if I've got it, everyone ele 
should too. I refuse to suffer alone.  Come on then, roll up for a 
snog, you'll love it BAYBEEEE

JD made some of the best pop everrrrr.  OK off to a lecture chapps. 
 Put the champane on ice, warm the bed, I'll be home before you 
can say   'oooohh you hansome devil'.

Raining down love like glitter,

Mark xxxxx
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From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk  Wed Mar 22 12:00:21 2000
From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:00:21 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: He NeVeR ReAd My pOeMs...
Message-ID: <20000322120021.26260.qmail@web3004.mail.yahoo.com>

I haven't written for so long... I think I forgot how
to do it... I thought... well, I should wait until a
bright idea hits me... not such thing happened...
So, here I am, trying to figure out what to write
next...
First thing - just to walk on
                            SaFe gRoUndS
the new album....
I loved the title... it's so... mmmm...
                           OlDFaShiOnEd
isn't it? it gives me a nostalgic feeling... I like
it, more that the other album titles...
Don't you hate people who talk to you and suddenly 
                           YaWn
with their mouths wide open? I despise that..
A girl at my work - is where I am right now - just did
it while asking me how to classify a book about case
studies... disgusting...
Oh! another girl just yawned... again with her mouth
open... yawning's
                        CoNtAgiOuS
so are bad manners? I hope not...
I DJed on Sunday... 'twas very nice as the place was
not crowded and I could play whatever I wanted...
It's funny but whenever I DJ I think of you people,
here in sinister... what would you like to hear, the
bands you like... it's such a nice feeling...
I played Smiths and Moz for George Henry and Joy
Division for Owen, Baxendale for Stevie (from the new
album that he hasn't got yet), Spearmint for Erica,
Pixies for Laura Llew, Sea Urchins and the Servants
for Richard, Pastels and Felt for Paul, Beck for
Zoe... etc etc... I could go on and on and on...
I played Belle and Sebastian for 
                         aLL oF YoU...
I should start painting... it's so hard tho'... I have
to prepare my portfolio and have nothing to put in it
yet, since I gave a lot of paintings away and
destroyed some others... but painting is like
breathing fresh air in one of these 
                        GaS ChAmBeRS
the world is like that... like a huge gas chamber that
poisons you slowly so that eventually you get used to
those poisonous fumes and you simply don't care
anymore... 
Music's like fresh air too... so... 
keep breathing child or you'll turn into a            
                      ZomBie...
I have to go now... it wasn't that bad after all...
a warm welcome to all new people...
and a big hug to all of you
I have jam on my chin and around my mouth... I've just
eaten a jam doughnut...mmmm... with apricot jam..!
I wonder how many calories that was...
bye bye sweet wee peas...
Vel
xxooxxx



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From topher at xxx.org  Wed Mar 22 12:21:04 2000
From: topher at xxx.org (Christopher Lanier)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:21:04 -0600
Subject: Sinister: he wont let me sleep.
Message-ID: <38D8BAAF.6473C0F8@belleandsebastian.org>

agh. brothers and sisters,  what shall I do?! it is 6am and I am sitting
here freaking out because my evil ex-girlfriend gave my number to her
new redneck and now he crank calls me at all hours and never speaks.
half the time it won't show up on my caller ID but it did this morning
when he called at 5:15am to wake me out of sleep. I called him back and
hung up. 5 minutes later he calls back claiming to be an angry business
man saying it was "jennings tire company" and asking why i paged him.
why cant people just leave people alone?

anyway, on a brighter note, I'm awake now and I was wondering if any of
you play the mandolin?? Im having problems with my new one and well I'd
just like to talk shop with someone else. Its fun to jam along with
belle and sebastian  but i think the mandolin is a little too bright for
most b&s tunes ... *shrug*

one last thing: im a huge gorky's zygotic mynci fan and im really
wondering why "introducing...." and "bwyd time" are out of print. whats
the deal here? can anyone clue me in?

well thats enough ignorant ranting and raving for now. take care all ..

xoxoxoxo,

topher

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From pinefox at xxx.com  Wed Mar 22 12:37:40 2000
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:37:40 GMT
Subject: Sinister: epigones of the epic
Message-ID: <20000322123741.33587.qmail@hotmail.com>


march hares, march hares,

Like that promo impressario a-go-go Stevie T, I have been struck by the 
return of the Reynolds girls to the list. I would like to make further 
contributions - to charity, Shields, and of course this discussion.

Arantxa said, roughly:
SR accurately predicted that being demure and humble would become 
underground; ie that hedonism was no longer radical in a spendspendspend 
world.

I think she - and thus he - are about right. But this could be an excuse for 
wallowing in static, pallid, woolly idleness; in which case I'm even more in 
favour of it.

She then went off on one about grunge. Another character also said that if 
you didn't like Nirvana in 92, you weren't fully together, or something 
similar. I'm afraid I can't quite agree with that. I like (some) Nirvana, 
too, and agree that some people have been keen to write them out of history; 
but in 1991, when the folks above me were playing 'Teen Spirit' every five 
minutes, I detested them.

(I detested Nirvana too.)

It took me years to get what was good (so it seemed to me) out of the band: 
a) their ability to produce good old-fashioned catchy pop melodies, and b) 
the unusual character of many of those melodies, and chord sequences (so not 
so old-fashioned after all). I'd still stick up for 'About A Girl', 
'Lithium', 'Drain You', etc - but not for the self-indulgent studio 
noisemaking that feels like a hangover from the worse kinds of 
'adolescence'.

So: yes, it's good to appreciate Nirvana, if appreciating Nirvana is your 
thing; but you didn't have to do it in 1992. Some folk weren't even born in 
1992. What future for them?

Arantxa also said that Britpop was the illegitimate child of indie pop - 
which I think is rather well put. But 'not that close in musical sources and 
forms'? Surely a resounding yes and no. No: that Kinks / Small Faces / 
glamracket thing doesn't strike me as having been a big influence on 80s 
indie pop, little enough that I know of it. Then again, you could draw lines 
from C86 to the Roses (so Stevie T tells me) to Blur ('we've killed baggy!' 
- and everything else) or Oasis (so Liam G tells us), or from Marr to 
Gallagher N (so he tells us, with the guitars to prove it), or from JAMC-MBV 
to...

Perhaps most won't find this plausible. I'm just saying that as history 
rolls on, it leaves traces, and one thing has a way of bleeding into 
another.

Stevie T said that 'Against Health and Efficiency' was 
cultural-studies-sociological rather than 'formalist' or, shall we say, 
ecstatic. He's right. He said that SR should reread the piece himself. I 
think he's right. ST added that 'the unclassifiable beauty of melody is just 
as radical as the most jouissant code-jamming'. I don't know what 
'code-jamming' might be, but think he's right again.

Nick D said that he'd preferred NME to MM. Orthodoxies have grown up (maybe 
always had) over the differences between the two magazines - orthodoxies 
which may be too easy and seductive. I take it that Nick D is, for one 
thing. steering us away from them. Goth? Maybe. Sounds was a bit more 
gothic, wasn't it?

On the other hand, this bit about not wanting to look kids in the eye and 
say 'the trouble with music today is that it's not sufficiently epic in 
sound and scope'. Hm - well, we'll have to have kids first, there's a 
problem, possibly even a rub. But was SR into the epic anyway? I was 
listening to Isn't Anything today and it's... oh, OK, it's epic. Still, if 
that's what epic stuff sounds like, it might not be a bad thing to be epic. 
(Surely Loveless is epic, and is one of the most beautiful sounds I can 
think of.) And presumably you can like epic things (whatever they are) and 
other things too. SR liked Viva Hate too - a great record (I apologize for 
the number of *opinions* in this mail - nobody needs to know whether I think 
it's a great record or not - it's just shorthand, I suppose) - but not epic, 
save perhaps on 'Late Night Maudlin Street'.

Nick D was probably right on the button, really. I wouldn't want to seem to 
be disagreeing with him. As for SR's love of the epic: he it was who wrote 
(roughly:) 'U2 are massive but minimalist, all texture, no rock frills or 
solos...'

Epic, then, yes, I will, Yes.


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From vibrosheep at xxx.net  Wed Mar 22 12:55:36 2000
From: vibrosheep at xxx.net (vibrosheep at xxx.net)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:55:36
Subject: Sinister: November Spawned a Monster in the Shape of this Child....
Message-ID: <200003221256.MAA16272@mailhost.vivao.net>


Who's ya Daddy ?  I'm ya F***ing Daddy !!!

Yes folks, this years fireworks/bonfire night promises not to be such a big bang, but more of damp squelch as the most offensive little lamb on this beloved list becomes a daddy for the first time.

I don't get to read your inane ramblings too often these days, but I'm sure they're just as sweet as they always were.  If you wish to send me recommendations for names that will get him/her beaten up regularly at school, feel free - but I'm taking a long step back from Sinister for a bit.

You're all very eatable.

Adrian.
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From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com  Wed Mar 22 14:30:56 2000
From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:30:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: D.O.W. TVshow, year books,.......
Message-ID: <20000322143056.25266.qmail@web1403.mail.yahoo.com>

I came home early one day last week, I think it was
friday, and to my amazement, on itv, was a kids tv
program called dog and duck, about, wait 4 it, a dog
and duck. A DOG ON WHEELS and a talking duck. exactly
like the dog on wheels I used to have, with a red
handle thing, but mine couldn't talk or nod it's head.
which was a pity.
they always went quiet when someone entered the room.
like a twee toy story.

people were discussing indie culture recently. well I
pride myself in not being part of any kind of culture
- I am UNCULTURED. yoghurt has more culture than me.
but really, I think it is wrong of people to close
themselves off to meeting other people just cause they
like a certain sorta music. music is JUSTmusic. that's
all. although, for some people, it's a bible by which
they live their lives, and you hear cries of "what a
fuckin' stinkin' mosher" from one side, and "arsehole
trendies neds, bastards" from the other. I just think
it's appalling.

saying that, though, I got mistaken for a goth/glam
person last week, as I was attacked in school with
glitter glue stuff, all over my face, and made julian
clary look tame, and when I had to go into town
aftewards, I walked by the moder art gallery, and the
stuff hadn't washed off, and some goth(ish) girls were
staring at me, so I just said "what, I'm no bleeding
glam rocka, what ARE you looking at?"

tahnks very much people for the bids for the auctioned
records. You raised £150  for a really good cause.
however, on the subject of sexual favours from cover
girl erica, I did get some mails, offering
unrepeatablwe services in exchange for the signed
tigermilk record     ;).

We are making our year book at school now, and I'm
kinda stuck on a couple of the questionaire answers.

1) quote for the year - I want something very
AMOOZING, with a touch of style, and crazyness.

2) wittiest chat up line. I don't really know much
about chatting up, so some good lines would be
appreciated.



also, thanks to people for trying to SPEL MOR
CORRECTLIE. intresting theory about the cheeze grater.
if people still insist on saying grate, tho', must you
ALL write it in CAPITALS?



bye.

chris



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From MMarucco at xxx.com  Wed Mar 22 14:40:17 2000
From: MMarucco at xxx.com (Marucco, Mike)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:40:17 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Album track list???
Message-ID: <3017EFC4FCC0D111AAB100805F6F2568085554FF@lscexch2.limited.com>

Could someone please send me the tracklist for FYHCYWLAP?  

I somehow misplaced it.

thank you


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From MMarucco at xxx.com  Wed Mar 22 14:53:22 2000
From: MMarucco at xxx.com (Marucco, Mike)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:53:22 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Album track list???
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Thanks Lucy!!!
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From honey at xxx.org  Wed Mar 22 16:47:14 2000
From: honey at xxx.org (The Fragrant World Of Princess Honey)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:47:14 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Single
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0003221615540.1542-100000@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk>

Yep I'm back from Nude York and very nudey it was too!  I'm now
convinced everyone in NY is lovely and loves all God's little animals -
you were all so kind and we had a great time.  Props to Michele for
being a fabulous NY taxi driver ("blow it out your ass!") and to Matt
and Brian and Megan and Julie and Damon and Ree and Jared and Laurel
and Ben and the scary man in the lift for making our stay all comfy and
funpacked, and to Swannie and Steve for giving us the excuse to go in
the first place.  Oh God I've forgotten someone haven't I?  And to
Starry for being the perfect englishwoman abroad to accompany us on our
travels.  We should've brought parasols and done the whole trip like a
Helena Bonham Carter film, smiling tnd whispering about the odd
endearing little habits of "the colonials".  Their Milky Ways are
really Mars Bars you know! etc.

To the point:  Mick's updated the band's WWW site with details of the
band's single, which will be out the day after, or the day before (I
can't remember which) Neil the B&S manager's birthday, so you should
all send him flowers.  Here's what it says on Mick's spiffing WWW
site:

New Single 

A new single, 'Legal Man', will be released in the UK on the 22nd
May, 2000. The tracklistings are as follows:

7" vinyl Legal Man, Winter Wooskie 
12" vinyl Legal Man, Judy is a Dick Slap (extended) 
CD Legal Man, Judy is a Dick Slap, Winter Wooskie 

I have NOT made that up.  Judy is apparently a "Dick Slap", and an
extended one at that - twee as fuck huh? :)  Searching for "dick slap"
on http://www.alltheweb.com gives you 68 results, all of which look
rude and scary to me, so I'm not clicking on them, but maybe someone
else could volunteer to analyse and break them down for us?  Maybe
the B-side should've been called "It's Illegal, Man".

Adrian congratulations!  Call him "Richard Slap" or if it's a girl,
"Judy D'Slap".  

As always, I have a stack of photos and stuff like stories to do, as
long as my arm, which is notoriously long, so you'll all have to
forgive me because I will be some time at it.  Those slightly cheeky
monkeys who took advantageous of my list mummy awayness to send
unauthorised material of a suspect kind to the list just about got away
with it, but rest assured List Mummy is back and discipline will be
reinforced, and yea, she comes with the sword of vengeance and the
breastplate of "please could you stop that now?".  Remember folks,
you get the list you make.  If you don't like it, send in stuff you
do like.  Go on, don't be afraid to be high-brow.

Dick slap indeed,
Honey xx


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From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com  Wed Mar 22 16:48:24 2000
From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE HENRY DICKIE)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:48:24 GMT
Subject: Sinister: BOXING HEFNER???? YES THEY HAVE BEEN - HAVE U???
Message-ID: <20000322164825.66808.qmail@hotmail.com>


ONCE UPON A TIME THERE WAS A FAIRY TALE


  MMMMMMMMM
  RIGHT
IT IS THAT TIME OF THE MONTH

  I HAVE GOT OVER
MY

         PRE LIST TENTION

I JUST WANT TO LET IT FLOW
         NOW

  MMMMMMMMMMM I HOPE
U PEOPLE
WILL ABSORB

            SOMETHING
                  FROM THIS EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


     YER
  I'M GOING TO COMMENT ON THE

LP
  MMMMMMM BEFORE I ASKED FOR
   A MESSAGE FROM
            STU AND DA GANG
     WITH THE TITLE
          MMMMMM
I HAVE TRIED TO FIND ONE
THIS IS WHAT I CAME UP WITH

MMMMMMM
      THE LP COVER HAS A MIRROR MIRROR ON THE WALL WHO IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL 
IN DA WORLD

                SNOW WHITE
STYLE TO IT

          MAYBE THEY COULD HAVE CALLED IT

*MIRROR MIRROR ON THE WALL
       WHY DOES SHE HAVE MAKEUP ON
               WHILE I HAVE NONE AT ALL*

I BELIVE THE MESSAGE OF THIS LP
IS HOPE
   I THINK IT IS SAYING THE POWER IS IN OUR HANDS

           IF U WANT TO BE MORE BEAUTIFUL
U CAN WEAR MAKEUP

IF U DON'T WANT OT BE A PEASANT U CAN FOLD YOUR ARMS

EVERYTHING IS COSMETIC
SO EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE

MMMMMMMM
MAYBE
                   MMMMMMMMM
    WELL THIS HOPE
      IT DOESN'T HELP
PEOPLE LIKE ME

CURLED INTO A BALL
IN THE CORNER OF MY BEDROOM
LISTENING TO THE CARPENTERS
BITING THE HEADS OFF JELLY BABIES
               AND DRINKING OUZO - THE GREEK GODDESS
    MMMMM
I LIKE TO DRINK HER

  I LIKE TO FORGET

MMMMMMMM


    BACK TO THE LP
MMMMMMM
I WAS THINKING ABOUT
THEM LEAVING OUT *MARX AND ENGELS*

          I THINK THE REASON IS
   THAT
M+E
  DO NOT MIX WELL WITH PEASANTS


        M+E
             THOUGHT
            THAT
              PEASANTS WERE NOT A REVOLUTIONARY FORCE
  OF COURSE
HISTORY HAS SHOWN THAT THEY WERE

MMMMM
AND SO PEASANTS REPRESENT A BIG PROBLEM
IN MARX THEORY

MAYBE B&S DID NOT WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS PROBLEM

           MMMMMM
     M+E COMMUNISM
           HAS NEVER REALLY HAPPENED
WE R STILL WAITING

JUST
LIKE WE WAIT FOR

       THE M+E TRACK


MMMMMM
IT ALL MAKES SENSE
SOMEHOW


MMMMMMMMMMM
I'M NOT SURE
MMM
MY MIND CAN NOT THINK IN A STRAIGHT LINE
            I THINK WHEN I WAS BORN
             MY MIND GOT FIXED TO THE HEART MONITOR
   GOING UP AND DOWN
       MMMMM

  I'M GLAD MY HEART WAS WORKING THOUGH
IT'S A CLICH�
BUT

I REALLY COULDN'T LIVE WITHOUT MY HEART

MMMMMMMM


BY THE WAY
I HAVE NAMED MY ELECTRIC TOOTHBRUSH                           G
                                                              I
                                     HANK                     R
                                                              L
  HE IS HAPPY                                                 S
MMMM
                   HE HAS BECOME PHILOSOPHICAL                J
HE HAS SPENT 2 DAYS                                           U
PONDERING                                                     S
                                                              T
A QUESTION
                                                              W
  ****WHAT IS THE BIGGEST FAKE IN COUNRY MUSIC                A
                 - SHANIA TWAIN                               N
            OR DOLLY PARTON'S BREASTS?****                    T

                                                              T
I WORRY ABOUT HIM                                             O

I WORRY ABOUT ME                                              H
WORRYING ABOUT MY ELECTRIC TOOTHBRUSH                         A
                                                              V
MMMMMMMMMMM AND SO ON                                         E

                                                              F
U KNOW THE PICTURE                                            L
OF ISOBEL WITH STUART                                         U
    IN SELECT                                                 M
WELL                                                         P
SHE LOOKS JUST LIKE MY BROTHER'S GIRLFRIEND                   S

              MMMMM
        I DON'T LIKE IT
I�VE STARTED TO THINK THINGS
I SHOULDN�T THINK



MMMM
I HAVE SEEN
PART 4 OF THE BIRSEYE MICROWAVE MEAL ADS
MMM
NOT AS GOOD AS THE OTHERS

THE SON GETS TEASED BY HIS FRIENDS FOR BEING
       GIRLY
AS HE COOKS
GREAT MEALS

THEN THE SON
TRIPS ONE OF THE FRIENDS

AND EVERYONE LAUGHS AT THE KID WHO FELL

MMMMMMM
MAYBE THEY R RUNNING OUT OF IDEAS

I THINK THE NEXT ONE
  SHOULD
HAVE
       THE SON EATING HIS MEAL
                    IN HIS PAJAMAS

               WATCHING LOOSE WOMEN ON TV
        WAITING FOR NEIGHBOURS

     CRYING
            INTO HIS MEAL

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
  WELL THAT�S WHAT I DO ANYWAY


MMMMMMM


*********************************************************************
HAROLD - AN EXPLANATION IS PROBABLY LONG OVER DUE

                      - TEENWOLF (THE GREATEST FILM OF ALL TIME)
*********************************************************************

LOVE
AND
           THEY ALL LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER





GEORGE             PUFF THE MAGIC DRAGON
HENRY
DICKIE                                 IF U R THERE

                                              PLEASE SAVE ME





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From lucy.alder at xxx.uk  Wed Mar 22 17:22:57 2000
From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:22:57 -0000
Subject: Sinister:  Dick Slap
Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F33530C0@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk>

Hello Honey - nice to have you back again.

So, I'm going to try and get in there first and say some things you may or
may not already be thinking.

1)  BASTARDS!  Now I'm going to have to buy the 12" AND the CD.

2)  Bearing in mind that Century of Elvis is the music from Century of
Fakers with a bit of Elvis over the top, I sincerely hope that Judy is a
Dick Slap will be the music from Judy and the Dream of Horses with a bit of
dick slapping over the top.

3)  We all had a good laugh at Judy at work because of this title.  Only in
a nice way though.

Seeing as you got a big, long one out of me yesterday, I'm going to keep
things short and sweet and say goodbye here.

Juicy Lucy



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From m.waggner at xxx.net  Wed Mar 22 18:01:07 2000
From: m.waggner at xxx.net (Michele Waggner)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:01:07 -0500
Subject: Sinister: dickslap
Message-ID: <012f01bf9428$9a084860$70ab4f0c@amstech>

On the list mummy's advice I did a search for "dick slap" and... well my
GOODNESS!!  Well, maybe not goodness of the regular sort.  Makes you long
for the days when an Arab Strap was considered racy around here.
Don't look children, is my advice.  Especially not you, BabyChris.  I don't
think the League of Decency would approve, and the spelling is atrocious.
Is there really someone named "Ben Dover"  making porn with housewives in
the UK?

This one was pretty good though... something to offend everyone.  I
especially recommend it to Miss Starry who does love Homey Talk.  I assume
"dick slap" is in there someplace.  I guess a list is *indeed* what you make
it.

http://www.dolemite.com/guestbook.html

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From Walkn10 at xxx.com  Wed Mar 22 18:14:13 2000
From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:14:13 EST
Subject: Sinister: Single
Message-ID: <2.1d06e4c.260a6775@aol.com>

In a message dated 3/22/00 11:57:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
honey at missprint.org writes:

<< A new single, 'Legal Man', will be released in the UK on the 22nd
 May, 2000. The tracklistings are as follows:
 
 7" vinyl Legal Man, Winter Wooskie 
 12" vinyl Legal Man, Judy is a Dick Slap (extended) 
 CD Legal Man, Judy is a Dick Slap, Winter Wooskie 
  >>

Ye Gads!  "Judy Is a DICK SLAP"!!!????  Plus, neither Lord Anthony nor 
Loneliness...is going to be released??!!!  I think I have officially shat 
myself, once and for all.  This is definitely shaping up to be the least twee 
of their releases.  I am perplexed and intrigued....did anyone see this 
coming?
George Dickie...your last message was a work of fucking art man.  Cheers...

Steve C.


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From jda349 at xxx.edu  Wed Mar 22 18:17:12 2000
From: jda349 at xxx.edu (Joseph Askins)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:17:12 -0600
Subject: Sinister: Freakin' out in my moonage daydream...
References: <200003221649.QAA29975@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <000501bf942a$d81a4200$4e8ace80@dhcp.missouri.edu>

So it's been a couple of months since I last posted--a few people sent me
some ugly, "watch yer ass, new boy," messages that sent me cowering in the
corner for weeks.  Anyway, I'm going to barrel my way back into the world o'
messages, inch by inch, regardless of rude messages and frightening
threats...

Saw Looper and the Lips last Friday.  Looper exceeded my expectations, but
only because I tried not to hold my expectations too high.  They didn't get
much of a reaction from the crowd, as they were late hitting the stage and,
well, this is Missouri.  The visuals were...interesting, but not up to par
with others I've seen (the Lips' crazy videos definitely blew Stu and Co.
out of the water).  Still, I enjoyed the new songs, and Stuart was as kind
and loveable as he presents himself in song.  He mentioned that they were
playing a song that they had never tried live before--can't recall the name
now, but I do remember that it was one of my favorites from the
set..."<something> Johnston," perhaps?  Help me out, fans...

In other news, is anyone else still doing backflips over Virgin's Bowie
re-releases?  I got into David in the twilight of the Rykodisc era, and by
the time I was ready to start buying up every bit of Bowie booty *POOF* the
Ryko CDs were gone.  When they were pulled, THEY WERE PULLED.  I went
through so much hell trying to find used copies and what-have-you, but never
had too much luck.  So now, about three years later, I can finally go and
blow what little dough I have filling out the rest of my collection.  I'm
about 3/4 of the way there, and not in too much of a hurry to get anything
past "Scary Monsters."  I know that a lot of people have been complaining
about the lack of the bonus tracks that were present on the Ryko CDs, but I
actually like these releases better--there's no sense on having tracks
tacked onto the end of "Ziggy Stardust"--that totally defeats the purpose.

JDA

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From Macarthur at xxx.com  Wed Mar 22 18:25:35 2000
From: Macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:25:35 -0000
Subject: Sinister: D.O.W. TVshow, year books,.......
References: <20000322143056.25266.qmail@web1403.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00b201bf942c$07d90c00$7c5101d5@com>

>however, on the subject of sexual favours from cover
>girl erica, I did get some mails, offering
>unrepeatablwe services in exchange for the signed
>tigermilk record     ;).

Can I just say NO I DID NOT, very loudly? I was trying to be droll when I
mentioned the sexual favours thing, obviously to no avail. I don't give
sexual favours to anyone, ever. I'm a stranger to love! And as for mark's
idea...well. I think he knows where to put that. Sorry for taking up space.
Again.

Erica
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From xstensionchord at xxx.net  Wed Mar 22 19:23:38 2000
From: xstensionchord at xxx.net (Chad Curtis)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:23:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: the frightening ensemble
Message-ID: <17067-38D91DBA-626@storefull-628.iap.bryant.webtv.net>

 First, I must give George Henry Dickie applause for bringing back the
'art of typing'. Which reminds us  -it's not what you say, but how you
say it.-  
Not that subliminal Cyndi Lauper (sp? either way I like the y and i
switched)  isn't accepted.
  
   More and more sitting in sini-chat I think about the placement of
list members. 
!. What is the maximum amount of us that live in one building? 
@. Are there any illegal aliens among us??
#. Is there a Japanese soul on the list???  $. How many of us have
falling cd collections with attempted towers and how many of us have
sophisticated rows parallel to our stereos????
%. If we all were gathered in one geographical space would we have as
much effect on the outside world????? 
^. Would we become a pirate legend and forever be the lost island of POP
Pagans??????
  
Maybe so ........ 

Are there any Beach Boy fans on the list? Am I a hopeless listener if I
think Carl Wilson and company are great?  I know they are a little (make
that a lot) more American than most bands people worship on this list.
Just thought I'd throw that in, I just felt an absence of their work. 
  
  Remember, in this day and age, an unkept appearance make it look like
you're trying.

                                           <>Chad<>

    

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From dontlookatmyaddressnaughty at xxx.com  Wed Mar 22 19:27:04 2000
From: dontlookatmyaddressnaughty at xxx.com (step change)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:27:04 GMT
Subject: Sinister: babie rabbits. metal fingers in my vimto. metal tractors in my sandpit. mtimsp
Message-ID: <20000322192704.22802.qmail@hotmail.com>

....Hi.

I never thought. I never thought that... people really did get attacked for 
cheering for the wrong team in a pub. Something along the lines , of : "this 
is a manchester city pub, what ya fookin cheerin fo la 
baaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssss...........etcetcetc" punch, punch, cement. Wander 
off.

O' course, the man city fan accent is an appaling reproduction using severel 
local dialects melded together like a happy family.

Just for the record. Worksop is ace. Worksop always will be ace. And twee, 
full of lovely people, with bunnies on small red tee-shirts.

And flowers. I dont recall ever eating a rose. They look very nice. The 
colour certainly looks very nice. Nice.

The most first-post-profound-ness thing I can think of is to say :

"Dont put your hands or face [or anything else] near , or more specifically, 
down, badger holes, or rabbits for that matter, dont go near them,  you. 
Will. Only. End. Up. Getting. Hurt. Maybe''

straight to the point, non? The maybe is quite usefull, as you never have to 
get around having no opinion, you make suggestions, maybe.

Bye
Gopher
[yellow and pale?]

Please praise my Use Of Capital Letters, [ i can do it, i can do 
it..eeeeeeee] and you will recieve a gawky wave. Cripes.


Afterword. (After Vimto. a.v?)

how many times can the Department of Health, have i made that name up?, . i 
mean. is it department of........anyway.
rhyme think with drink? ''think about drink. you should think about your 
drink. thinking about your drinking is a positive step. drink, but think. 
think while you drink. dont not think while you drink.''

you can only ''drown'' from drinking too much water if you have a faulty 
(can you send themj back?) liver.

those comments arent related. i thought about making a bad joke using the 
both of them.
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From wffej at xxx.com  Wed Mar 22 20:38:38 2000
From: wffej at xxx.com (wffej !!!)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:38:38 EST
Subject: Sinister: i love crack!
Message-ID: <20000322203838.75023.qmail@hotmail.com>

so i just got back from my first journey to san francisco, and i had a 
wonderful time, thanks mostly in part to CRACK.  whta can you say about 
crack except how awsome she is.  the only thing i regret is that i was a bit 
timid at first.  you know how it is the first time when you get introduced 
to someone new, but by the end of the trip, i had fallen for crack 
completley, everwhere crack was, i was , i even went to wine country and 
drank loads of wine with crack and ended up in reno with crack.  it was 
great fun. crack even helped me celebrate my birthday with shots, and brunch 
and mamosas and bloody marys.  who knew crack was this great?  crack is the 
best, completley mad and fun, when i woke up in portland after my 10 or so 
days in san fran and crack, i thought it was a dream i had such a good time. 
  but oh well, i will never forget all my times with crack.  thank you crack 
for everything, dont change cuz you are awsome.
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From Matthijs04 at xxx.nl  Wed Mar 22 20:59:59 2000
From: Matthijs04 at xxx.nl (Matthijs Scholten)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:59:59 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Another newbie
Message-ID: <000c01bf9441$b67e9f80$593f30d4@sparc5.demon.nl>

Hello Sinister,

Well, here's another one straight out the darkness of the nursery. I've been
following the list for some time now but never could find the courage to
join in the witty stuff you've been used to for ages.
This could be because it seems that there are so many people from
Anglo-Saxon countries on the list. For me, being a Dutch boy, is sometimes
scary. However, after reading your posts, I think I could fit in.

So, this is me: Matthijs, a 28-year old boy from Amsterdam. Off course I
love music; lots of it. Luckily Amsterdam has some good places for life
music (Paradiso, Melkweg). Paradiso was where I saw B&S in 1998. After
hearing the records (TBWTAS and IYFS) I was lost. Such good composed music.
In the Netherlands the word 'twee' is unknown. I must look-up the
translation somewhere. According to your posts, 'twee' is a sort of
lifestyle. Am I right?

See you next time!

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From chigger88 at xxx.com  Wed Mar 22 21:49:38 2000
From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Stealth Squirrel)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:49:38 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Another Commercial
Message-ID: <20000322214938.22366.qmail@hotmail.com>


So, I did see the Nick Drake Cabrio Car commercial.  It was a somewhat 
disheartening thing.  I mean, I can't disparage it too much, it was done 
well.  And who of us hasn't loved listening to Nick Drake outside late at 
night?  Whether it be at a busstop or in a car.  I just didn't think that 
anyone who could afford a fancy new car would listen to Nick Drake.  Ah, but 
the commercial certainly was targeting people like us.  Anyway, following 
the VW commercial was an IMAC home video commercial.  It featured two 
playful kids jumping on a bed, etc.  Now my question is, who did that song?  
It's driving me crazy.  I know it's a contemporary of Nick Drake and I want 
to say Richard Thompson but I am thinking that he's too late.  Can anyone 
help?

Thanks,

Rachael
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From jeanette at xxx.com  Wed Mar 22 16:16:38 2000
From: jeanette at xxx.com (Jeanette)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:16:38 +0000
Subject: Sinister: solid gold
Message-ID: <38D8F1C1.5B3A@ktc.com>

Howdy, y'all.

Is it true that our beloved music-makers have achieved their first gold
album in the UK? I heard today that TBWTAS went gold, but I've been
waiting for one of you Brit-types to confirm the news. Has some
thoughtful soul already mentioned this, and I just missed it?

Jeanette
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From secretmysterydate at xxx.com  Wed Mar 22 22:36:06 2000
From: secretmysterydate at xxx.com (brand new shoes)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:36:06 EST
Subject: Sinister: bubble bubble bubble...
Message-ID: <20000322223606.70143.qmail@hotmail.com>

as you can see i am bubbling with curiosity...

WHY?   you ask...

i got a new crush vote!!! two now!!??!!! is this a prank?

it's making me crazy! i'm checking my email like a million times every day!

ohhhh!! i know i can't ask who they are... but give hints... okay?

i'm bad enough at this in real life...

									grrrrrrrr.

at least i can't do the normal crush thing of wandering around hoping to run 
into people or sitting around in public places waiting to be found. argh!
(that is a very pirate-ee sound)

hmm, i'm sorry, this is lame.
forget the hint thing.
that's a wack thing to ask for
i'll just wallow in the muck of ignorance for a while longer.
***sigh****

anyway
it is very pretty today and my afternoon class was cancelled, so i got to 
drive out to a thrift store playing Tigermilk loudly, though it drew rather 
intimidating looks from a group of youths on a corner. they were just too 
tough deal...
is b+s not tough music? what about "...if i kill him now, well who's going 
to miss him?" that sounds tough,
"a knife on a bike chain.." very tough
"i was moved to kick the crutches from my crippled friend" come on, this is 
a band you don't want to cross!
maybe we are just so tough, that we don't have to wrap up in a hoodie made 
of mean sounding thump music. because from what i've read here...
sinister folks are not folks you want to mess with.
yeah!
i got your backs! (arms crossed w/ sunglasses, looking very very tough 
indeed)
(maybe we aren't really tough, and neither is b+s, but who likes tough guys 
anyway? no one! that's who.)
anyway
i found (at the store) an old Velvet Underground (andy warhol) record, and 
some black cloth to make into a dress/costume for my friend meesha. made me 
very happy. a guess a tough guy wouldn't be excite about find fabric at a 
thrift store either, damn.
plus Honey is back which makes everything better.

"written for anyone with eyes in their head.."
lovingly,
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From RythSoul at xxx.com  Wed Mar 22 23:25:46 2000
From: RythSoul at xxx.com (RythSoul at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:25:46 EST
Subject: Sinister: sooo bored.....
Message-ID: <b6.2d5ca82.260ab07a@aol.com>

i'm almost positive i need to get out more. perhaps if i had a car, or a 
license, maybe a permit. yes, i think that would help my situation. as of ten 
minutes ago i have entered the dull and aimlessly wandering stage of my day 
where i haven't anything to do, so i come here and begin my search for 
something to make the minutes tick by a little bit faster.

i have to say, i am surprised by the feedback i received from my first post. 
i never imagined someone would actually respond to what i had to say... not 
that i haven't seen it done before, but mostly because i'm not all that 
interesting and i probably wouldn't respond to what i have to say either. 
thanks for those of you who did, lifted my spirits a bit.

i've been in need of a lot of spirit lifting lately. and to be honest, i'm 
not completely sure why. my daily dose of belle and sebastian always makes me 
feel better though. my rotation of music has been a bit ecclectic the past 
few days, but then again so have my moods. oh, this is an incredibly dull 
post, i don't know why i bother. oh wait a minute, i remember now, because i 
am so BORED I AM GOING OUT OF MY MIND!!!

i need to get a job, or a hobby, or a man....but i think i need to leave the 
house in order to get any of those. so looks like i'm stuck here with my good 
friend, the television. even my t.v. has had it with me i suspect. nothing 
good is ever on, perhaps i will watch the jerk for the hundredth time this 
week. 

later kids-
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From GardeningAtNight at xxx.com  Thu Mar 23 00:33:03 2000
From: GardeningAtNight at xxx.com (GardeningAtNight at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:33:03 EST
Subject: Sinister: domo arigato baby. thank you, thanks for listening to me
Message-ID: <8e.2bc3629.260ac03f@aol.com>

joseph wrote:
<< Stuart was as kind
 and loveable as he presents himself in song.  He mentioned that they were
 playing a song that they had never tried live before--can't recall the name
 now, but I do remember that it was one of my favorites from the
 set..."<something> Johnston," perhaps?  Help me out, fans.. >>

I could've sworn he said peacock.  I could hear it through the door as well 
when I was waiting outside in line and he kept singing "peacock, peacock," 
unless I'm horribly mistaken.  Then I'll be embarassed, but it would still 
make for a grate story about misheard lyrics.

chad said:
<< Are there any Beach Boy fans on the list? Am I a hopeless listener if I
think Carl Wilson and company are great?  I know they are a little (make
that a lot) more American than most bands people worship on this list.
Just thought I'd throw that in, I just felt an absence of their work. >>

My dad let me borrow his copy of Pet Sounds a few months ago and now I'm a 
fan, much to his happy surprise since he thinks everything I like is crap, 
naturally.  But so far that's the only one I really like, Wild Honey and 
Smiley Smile aren't as catchy although that vegetable song floors me.  
Parents are so strange though, my dad likes IYFS a lot.  He actually let the 
entire album play during dinner and didn't even mind naughty references which 
made me cringe to hear them in the same room with him.

About the new single.  I was just wondering why the single isn't from 
flappyclap.  At least I don't see Legal Man on the tracklist.  But I'm not 
complaining.  Last year Judy was a frumpy schoolgirl and now she's a dick 
slap?  Next time she'll be on Jerry Springer.  That ain't twee!

Samantha
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From holly9 at xxx.au  Thu Mar 23 11:31:53 2000
From: holly9 at xxx.au (holly9 at xxx.au)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:31:53 Australia/NSW
Subject: Sinister: mmmmm..filth!
Message-ID: <200003230033.AAA27557@missprint.org>

So just as I leaned over the egde of my crib to spout about the lack of 
perversion on this list I'm proven gloriously wrong!
Lucy, there had been a lack of filth but I'm sure there will be plenty of Dick 
Slapping fun all round, it would be even more fun if I knew someone called 
Judy, but hey.

My boredom is being slightly alleviated by two people having a fight via 
forwards. She showed everyone her pink bits down at the pub, he is apparently 
lousy in bed, she has an ugly mother and I'm wondering if they realise they are 
hitting 'reply all'. I don't know either of them but I get a little update 
every few hours...I think he's winning.

'a twee little slapper'
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From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk  Wed Mar 22 19:52:06 2000
From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:52:06 +0000
Subject: Sinister: epigones of the epic
Message-ID: <802568AA.006DAD7C.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk>



Joseph asked about some song Looper covered:

> <something> Johnston," perhaps?  Help me out, fans...

Daniel Johnston?

****'That' single****

Not sure if I approve of this latest development in B&S titling.  I mean now
they're smuttifying their own songs there's nothing left for us to do.  'Slap
Your Cock Around' seems strangely prescient (it wasn't me who made that up, by
the way, whoever put © my name a while ago).  Mind you, they started it, what
with 'Cock Fun' and all. Maybe we can call it 'Judy Has A Cat Nap' instead.  I
certainly don't approve of having to pay about 7 quid for four tracks and an
extended dick slap.

As I understand it, 'Legal Man' is a group collaboration mainly written by
Stevie.  The lunatics have taken over the asylum.

Someone asked what they thought the best song on the album would be.  I reckon
'The Chalet Lines' might take it.  'I Fought in a War' is bound to be a wistful
affair, starting the album with Stuart's wispy unaccompanied tones, if previous
form is any guide.  It will be OK, but no 'The State I Am In'.  'Beyond the
Sunrise' is sure to be epic in sound and scope.  I can't wait.

I kind of understand what Joe means when he calls 'Late Night, Maudlin Street'
epic.  A contributor to 'Smiths Indeed' (the Sinister of its day? Not really)
once lamented what he saw as Morrissey's dwindling politicism and quoted that
song as an example.  He said it was a sign of Morrissey  switching to an
uncommitted, documentary style of lyric, as if he was now on the outside looking
in.  I didn't really agree with this, but it is tempting to see the song as the
centerpiece of the album, Morrissey closing a chapter on his own involvement in
the world he describes.   I am moving house, a half-life disappears today.

What does 'epic' mean nowadays?  How can we have an epic in our times?  A broad,
sweeping work that defines our civilisation; where we're from and where we are?
Come off it.  When people talk of 'Loveless' as epic, I think they really just
mean monumental. There are very few examples of this kind of work that impress
me.  Somehow you have to have the authority to carry it off, and maybe Kevin
Shields just about has.  The rest of the shoegazing pack didn't.  They just
seemed like silly middle class boys and girls who thought it was terribly modern
to drown whatever tunes they had in effects pedals. 'Tomorrow Never Knows' seems
to be the template for all this, and much as you might resent him as a pampered
wife-beating swine, when John Lennon did it it really mattered.

I think I'm just embarrassed by the whole indie scene, and believe that it is at
it's best when it's concentrating on the small, the detail.  Maybe that's what
some call anorexic, or unambitious.  But it fits somehow.  There's a defiant
thrill to be had in the small making the big look overblown and stupid.  God,
next I'll be supporting Man City.  Look, I don't know.  I just don't think pop
music is an appropriate vehicle for the BIG.  I'd sooner read a book or watch a
film.

> Goth? Maybe. Sounds was a bit more gothic, wasn't it?

Nah, Sounds was more metal.  MM definitely put the Cure on the front cover an
awful lot, and was preferred by the Mission fans in my school.  MM liked
shoegazing more too.  Anything a bit 'arty'.  The NME was always more P!O!P!,
cynical and posture-puncturing, which I appreciated at the time.  That was the
way I saw it in the late 80s and early 90s, anyway.  I was impressed with MM's
2-part interview with Morrissey in 1988 though. (Can't remember the writer's
name.  Something very ordinary like Dave or Alan).  At that age (14) it struck
me as the most intelligent piece of music journalism I'd ever read.  I must have
another look at it.

I just came across this personal account of why the weeklies used to matter.
I've only skimmed it, but it looks interesting:

http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~tewing/maker1.html


Nick xx








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From Pelican303 at xxx.com  Thu Mar 23 02:04:05 2000
From: Pelican303 at xxx.com (Pelican303 at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:04:05 EST
Subject: Sinister: Happy birthday to me
Message-ID: <99.2a8494b.260ad595@aol.com>

Well, none of you punks wrote to wish me a happy birthday...but I guess I'll deal...I don't think I've written any of you on your birthdays.  However, that tape Laura sent me a bit ago didn't arrive until today, so I'm sure she had it delayed to arrive on my birthday.  Thanks for caring...almost enough for my crush vote ;)  (Carolina's in the Sweet Sixteen... REPRESENTIN!!)
What is it about NCAA basketball that turns big nerds who normally don't give a rat's ass about sports into obsessive lunatics who can spout stats like noones business?
So I am very very upset with this entire list.  I have recieved absolutly no responses about what can be done when you rearrange the letters of the new album title.  I mean, I worked hard and provided what I consider to be important insights into the collective psyche of our fav kids.  And what do you guys do??  Just sit around on your fat butts, not even trying to help out.  *sigh*  Oh well...I guess I forgive you all.
I can't believe I've gotten this far without saying dick slap.  
I did think of a way that dick slap might be a little bit more twee than vulgar.  *clears throat and prepares for dramatic reading*
See Dick.
See Dick run.
See Dick get violent.
See dick slap.

To whomever asked, I play a bit of mandolin.  I haven't for a bit...too damn frustrating.  But I have a good grasp on how the damned thing works (I'm a pretty decenet guitarist, if I do say so myself...which I obviously do).
OKay kids....be good...and I do accept belated presents.
The Lonely Birthday Boy
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From aconover at xxx.net  Wed Mar 22 18:05:44 2000
From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:05:44 -0500
Subject: Sinister: pink bits
Message-ID: <200003230513.AAA15126@s1.nassau.cv.net>

i'm supposed to be writing a 500 word essay on "the awakening", by 
kate chopin, but i never was much of a feminist (there's a subject 
line for ya, oi?), so i'm writing you lot instead.

i am happy about the new single. my take is that it's self parody... 
"we are tough perverts, not twee kids!" but anyway. it makes the wait 
easier, eh?

it makes you wonder about "judy", though... so far, she's shown up in 
three songs i can think of... "judy and the dream of horses", 
obviously, where she was a high-school kid as usual (i think), "the 
rollercoaster ride", where she was -still- a frumpy high-school 
kid... and now "judy is a dick slap". could stuart have a recurring 
character, maybe? how about a little good-old-fashioned sinister 
banter on this subject?

i need a hug.

- adam

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From mattwardfhnn at xxx.com>  Thu Mar 23 05:30:35 2000
From: mattwardfhnn at xxx.com> (mattwardfhnn at xxx.com>)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 23:30:35 -0600
Subject: Sinister: The Post of Obligatory Firstness
In-Reply-To: <200003221649.QAA29975@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <B4FF081B.383%mattwardfhnn@hotmail.com>

Ah. Finally. A voice.

Anyway, I'm here, finally, after soaking up digests for a while. I found my
way to B&S last August after a little band name dropping going on over at
the Ben Folds Five list. So I was going to buy a They Might Be Giants album
at Hastings, when I saw "Arab Strap." Hmm. This might be good. I'll buy it.

So anyway, in addition to some old favorites like Ben Folds Five, U2,
Weezer, and Dave Matthews Band, my current big things are Built to Spill,
Radiohead, and Spacehog.

Not to play the "I'm cool, look at the bands I like" game, just thought I'd
give you kids an idea of who I am/where I'm coming from.

Speaking of which, I come from Baylor <Baptist> University in Waco, Texas.
I'm doing the comp sci/biology thing, and I'm a freshman. I'm into computers
and music, both listening to it, and playing it--I play the horn.

So that's who I am, I look forward to being in this terribly interesting
list!

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From mattwardfhnn at xxx.com>  Thu Mar 23 05:34:18 2000
From: mattwardfhnn at xxx.com> (mattwardfhnn at xxx.com>)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 23:34:18 -0600
Subject: Sinister: Wow! Another post!
In-Reply-To: <200003221649.QAA29975@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <B4FF08FA.384%mattwardfhnn@hotmail.com>

I just noticed in today's digest a blurb about a VW commercial. The first
time I heard it, I though, "hmm, this sounds like Belle and Sebastian." Is
this true? I'm sure this has been hit heavily on the list before; if anybody
wants to e-mail me privately to fill me in as to any intersting info, such
as song title, it would be greatly appreciated. 

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From no_surprises_21 at xxx.com  Thu Mar 23 06:10:29 2000
From: no_surprises_21 at xxx.com (Chris Heil)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 22:10:29 PST
Subject: Sinister: LLPJ burning up the charts!
Message-ID: <20000323061029.89097.qmail@hotmail.com>

I saw yesterday someone mention that N.Drake's pink moon was at number 9 on 
the amazon selling chart...the way too blue album was on the cdnow charts as 
well. That's weird how one VW commercial could make a records' sales 
jump...and most likely from people who wanna hear that one song and don't 
give a crap about Nick Drake. It's depressing..everyone look for N.Drake cds 
at their local used cd stores soon. I wish my friends were like the kids in 
that ad..they probrably would of left me in the car and ran off to the 
party, without even a "thanks for the ride". But then again..I would 
actually have a new car..oh well. By the way, the Lazy Line Painter Jane box 
set was number 12 on the cdnow alternative selling list..that is somewhat 
encouraging. And I'm a huge beach boys fan, if anyone could help me out with 
a copy of 'The Beach Boys Today' album it would be greatly appreciated and 
compensated. bye bye all.....
Christopher
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From Mark at xxx.com  Thu Mar 23 09:27:52 2000
From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:27:52 -0000
Subject: Sinister: I'm afraid of the dark without you close to me
Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22DB390F@SERVER1>

Lucy wrote "you got a big, long one out of me yesterday".

Advances in surgery these days, eh? No longer do you have to live in pain
after those embarrassing, ahem, accidents.

Michele - Ben Dover was interviewed about 7 years ago on Eurotrash (I
think), and he has quite an amazing job. He's a 40-something cockney wide
boy who doesn't take himself too seriously, and he seems to spend all his
time going "ooh, gawd, I've never felt anything so wet!". I believe (though
obviously I wouldn't know) he still does a show on one of Britain's premier
filth channels, even though they don't have anything explicit on them (good
old British reserve).

I just wrote something bitchy about a list member, AND MY COMPUTER CENSORED
IT OUT. Woo. There is supposed to be a ghost in this office, but it doesn't
usually manifest itself at five past nine in the morning. Still, it has
touched the company secretary (missus) and has great fun with the lights.
Hmm, I'm alone up here. Erm, just going for some fresh air...

God I hope Judy...doesn't fail to deliver. It'll have to be pretty special
to get away with such a TERRIBLE name. And I think Winter Whoopie Cushion is
a poor song. And it's a bit evil of Cheapster to get us to shell out for two
versions of the same song - d'you think one will have naughty words in it so
they had to release the edit to get on Heart FM? Looking forward to the
Armand Van Helden remixes of "Boy done wrong again" on the next single...

I shall practise my dick slapping in preparation for the next sinister
picnic. Anyone fancy a sword fight?

Oh yes - in the off chance I haven't thanked Steady Mike profusely enough
for the absolutely superb-welded-to-my-car-stereo Magnetic Fields tape he
made me, thank you thank you thank you, especially for 100,000 Fireflies
which is my favourite song of the century so far. Ta! 

Even when I was 17, Melody Maker was far more interesting and experimental
than the NME, which lapped up Britpop until it drowned in Richard Fucking
Ashcroft's sputum (and anyone who tells you Verve="soul" are talking out of
their rectum) (and don't get me started on fucking Embrace). The Neil
Kulkarni and Everett True years were MM its peak, even though every single
article he ever wrote dissed Warwick University, the bastard. MM used to
make efforts to review bands who didn't fit in with the scene, who couldn't
pull crowds in double figures at the Camden Falcon, who didn't need to be
fashionable. I don't know who first spotted B&S among the inkies - I don't
suppose it really matters, because they'd both pretty much lost it by then -
but I'm definitely throwing my hat on the Maker's side of the fence (?). 

Lucy asked me to drown the list with smut, but it seems the only smut is at
her expense. That'll learn her...

Mark xxx

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From elenita99 at xxx.com  Thu Mar 23 13:05:09 2000
From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita99)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:05:09 CET
Subject: Sinister: LOVELY people
Message-ID: <20000323120509.78755.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hello out there
Before being allowed to post I could get in touch via email with each of 
you, and I did in some cases with some persons, you know, asking stuff or 
chatting or whatever...
And I have to say that I did get answers, nice ones, anyway I really feel 
like being surrounded by a thousand persons that I could possibly get one 
with...
it's such a WEIRD sensation, I love it, I get more and more excitment 
everyday about opening my email-box...
I'm not drunk or anything but I wanna let you know how good I feel about 
that, that's great and/or GRATE!
OK I'm too happy to contain myself, so I just gonna go out and run 5 mn to 
calm down.
Sorry, that was just an useless joyful post!
Love to you all
Elena

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From jordiet at xxx.com  Thu Mar 23 12:07:06 2000
From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano)
Date: 23 Mar 2000 04:07:06 -0800
Subject: Sinister: Let´s try for the third time........(something interesting this time)
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From aconover at xxx.net  Thu Mar 23 01:28:08 2000
From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:28:08 -0500
Subject: Sinister: LLPJ burning up the charts!
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On 22 Mar 00, at 22:10, Chris Heil muttered into a little tape recorder:

> I saw yesterday someone mention that N.Drake's pink moon was at number 9 on 
> the amazon selling chart...the way too blue album was on the cdnow charts as 
> well. That's weird how one VW commercial could make a records' sales 
> jump...and most likely from people who wanna hear that one song and don't 
> give a crap about Nick Drake. It's depressing..everyone look for N.Drake cds 
> at their local used cd stores soon.

a quick note: it's up to #7 on amazon now (might have changed again, 
i should go check)... and there were two nice drake albums (pink moon 
and way to blue) on the listening display in border, with nice 
descriptions of the porr guy and his music... i bamboozled a friend 
into buy pink moon, of course. :)

- adam

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From angel_blackwell at xxx.com  Thu Mar 23 12:57:18 2000
From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (the angel blackwell)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 07:57:18 EST
Subject: Sinister: slap happy...
Message-ID: <20000323125718.27914.qmail@hotmail.com>

well that judy girl sure gets around...i thought dick slap was an american 
term though...see what you can learn about other cultures through 
music...well, i'll be happier when i have the single and album in my little 
paws instead of having to hear every minutiae about the album details...but 
i still love to hear everything, it's just that i'm drooling a lot over it. 
k...i've heard of winter wooskie or whatever before...i'm gonna hafta go 
diggin to remember where.
ugh...i got to work early by accident...my bf woke up a lot earlier than 
usual, so i got up, got ready, did my little routine and then realized it 
was only 6am...
speaking of dick slap...i bought these flared cords and man...in the decade 
they were made, men could nae 'ave been too fertile...i'm getting boy camel 
toes...the boys are completely thrust to one side...
oh...for those i've been chattin to lately, me psychic (don't ask) says that 
my little ghost problem isn't really a ghost...i've got my grandfather 
following me around these days that's all...but, i've had 5 grandfathers, so 
i'm not sure which one it is...he was searching around my place cuz he was 
asking permission to be there...he scared the crap outta me the other night 
as he was hanging around while i was trying to sleep...
now i must get caffeine infusion





the angel blackwelll
PS welcome to all those outta nappies from the nursery...
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From rdossinger at xxx.net  Thu Mar 23 14:17:10 2000
From: rdossinger at xxx.net (Reid Dossinger)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:17:10 -0500
Subject: Sinister: She *did* do it with a boy when she was young, after all
Message-ID: <38DA2765.145D4445@worldweb.net>

Oh, joy!  We're back to talking about B&S all the time.  Personally, I
think this whole dick slap thing was some sort of calculated move to get
us to all start talking tunes again.  Nothing like a bit of smut to perk
up people's ears.

So I have a confession.  With each and every B&S news bulletin issued by
Jeepster about the forthcoming releases, I am more and more sure that
May and June will see the end of my B&S fandom.  I'm sure (I *know*)
that I'm in the extreme minority here.  It's just that I was already a
little wary about the new album after hearing that Stuart M. would be
writing less of the songs, but...a Stevie-led "Northern Soul rave-up"?
"Nice Day For A Sulk"?  The album title, the song titles, the song
descriptions, etc.  Now, I'm not saying that the band shouldn't change.
Change is good.  But *good* change is good, and I just keep getting the
feeling that this album is going to be mediocre, over-done and
overly-retro.

But then, I'm an idiot for saying all of this without hearing any of the
songs first.  I don't know...I just had to get it off my chest.  It's a
little sad.  I really hope that I like the new stuff.  Really and truly
I do!  I guess it's a real 'wait and see' moment, whatever the fuck
that's supposed to mean.

And what little jewel did I find in that last digest?

> (Carolina's in the Sweet Sixteen... REPRESENTIN!!)
>
Ah, it's good to see March Madness extending to the list, however small
it may be.  And Rob's rooting for the proper team, too.  If (don't want
to jinx 'em) the Heels make it to the Final Four, I'll be driving down
to Chapel Hill for the games, and maybe we c0uld plan some sort of
sports-related Sinister meet-up.  How un-twee would *that* be?  There is
no B&S in me when I yell Ka-BOOM at Brendan The Boy From the 'boro
dunking over some unsuspecting dwarf of a defender.  God, I love March.

Dick-slapped and loving it,
    Reid

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From bazej at xxx.com  Thu Mar 23 14:45:08 2000
From: bazej at xxx.com (Josh Baze)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:45:08 -0600
Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #93
In-Reply-To: <200003230531.FAA03703@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000323084508.00710340@marketingcomm.com>

congrats to stuart!

"dick slap," "twelve inch," and "extended," all in the same sentence.  i'm
impressed.  i'm very impressed...

josh
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From littlearsonist at xxx.com  Thu Mar 23 17:04:20 2000
From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:04:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: easily beats (loving) yourself...
Message-ID: <20000323170420.2350.qmail@web109.yahoomail.com>


i'd heard the rumor.
i was in denial.
"dickslap" was surely NOT going to come out of stuart's mouth.
but oh yes.  oh yes it did.  (and i don't want to know what's
going IN.)

i think i'd pay to hear that come out of his mouth, acutally.  oh
wait, i will be paying.  although not for the EXTENDED version b/c
i am after all just a wee girl.  hmm.

i hope they haven't decided to just revel in irony or something
and just make fun of themselves, or be purposefully rude and
strange.  then again, i remember seeing the track listing for IYFS
and TBWTAS, thinking "what IS this odd british band that kimmy put
on a tape for me which has songs like "dirty dream #2" and "get me
away from here i'm dying."  and then when i saw the eps with songs
like "dog on wheels"  (what the hell is a...?) and "LLPJ" i was
like, clearly these kids are off their rockers.  so... where am i
going?  oh, well, just that i'm not making any judgements till i
hear the real thang, you know?  

i just can't believe it's judy that's the dickslap when jane is
the one running around licking railings.  i mean, really.

good lord, sinistah overload.  not really, i mean, can you have
too much sinistah?  but massive props and shout outs to
matt/brian/laurel and jared for letting my suburban ghetto-wannabe
ass sleep on yr floors, etc, when i managed to get myself on a
train down to nyc.  lovins to honey for being honey (although,
sadly, no milkmaiding took place), and julie for knowing where all
the best sanrio stuff is, and megan for making me and starry into
film stars!  er, yeah, that's about it.

and by the way, i LOVE winter wooskie, and now that i know it's
going to be released, i can better cope with the departure of
StuD.  i mean, i've got what i want, so let him go ;)  love 'em
and leave 'em, i say, as long as i get MY lovin, you know what i'm
sayin'??  it ain't over til we both get our cookies.

oh dear.  i've officially lost it.
not only that, but this post is nearly All Content.  eek.

right.
that's enough of that.

xoxo,
ree





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From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk  Thu Mar 23 17:07:25 2000
From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (C.B.Stride)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:07:25 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Offbeat Belle & Sebastian night, 26/5/00
Message-ID: <E12YB51-0001EM-00@mailhub1.shef.ac.uk>

Hi!
I know its a long time away but best be forewarned... 

Offbeat
Sheffield's Real Indie Night
presents its 1st annual
Belle and Sebastian Special

playing the usual Offbeat mix of classic indie, punk-pop, C86 and 
new indiepop underground 
plus loads of Belle and Sebastian tracks...

Friday 26th May, 2000
from 9pm - 1am
@ The Raynor Lounge, Sheffield University Students Union
Admission £2.50
Free Lollipops, stickers and they'll be a raffle too!

For more info' on Offbeat such as other dates, playlists, reviews, 
etc, check out
http://www.shef.ac.uk/~offbeat/

If you a non-student, also check 
http://www.shef.ac.uk/~offbeat/frames/wherefra.htm
for directions / admission details, or email me.


C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk

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From scorn-pie at xxx.uk  Thu Mar 23 17:17:15 2000
From: scorn-pie at xxx.uk (Victoria Adam)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:17:15 -0000
Subject: Sinister: another new kid-choc chips in vaseline
Message-ID: <002e01bf94eb$caa1f3e0$dfc628c3@t4j2q4>

Hello all.
Ah , excited noises!  Just another one fresh out of nursery so here goes.
 firstly, what a lovely list this is. being shy and scared of the world in
general it's  so nice to have mail. anyway as its good manners i'll
introduce myself.

  I'm an art student amonst other things and I first heard b+s when i was
ironing so now whenever I hear TIJAMRS have a irrational urge to flatten out
creases. I love too much music to list, Alice in Wonderland and  cellos and
.... I've just made a big hole in my finger with a fork. (Accidently)

The fork  was probably warning me to at least attempt something relevent, so
ur, will stars of track + field be on any more tv sport adverts?

 "they drew all manner of things beginning beginning with m"
love s.p.
xxx


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From tourajsig2 at xxx.com  Thu Mar 23 17:26:36 2000
From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Jones?=)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:26:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Hideous Inkie
Message-ID: <20000323172636.24820.qmail@web123.yahoomail.com>

March.  Or die.

Curious goings-on this morning.  Found myself intercepted on an
escalator at London Bridge tube by John Sessions and Elkie Brooks;
forced into a cubicle, I was showered with sticky glitter and had my
neck tattooed with an LT symbol.  A goon with a face like fighting
geese and breath like used swabs filled my pockets with loose change
(as opposed to low-denomination coins all glued together), pressed
Deep Heat into my temples and made me stand on a podium next to 'Kid'
Jensen.  Disorientated and nauseous, I glimpsed a small gathering of
sour-faced children, waving tiny flags, while some kind of
triumphalist wincecore jazzbo honked away down to my left.  It
gradually became apparent that I was to be honoured as the trillionth
passenger on the Northern Line (Bank branch) and this was some kind
of presentation ceremony.  I got the vague impression I was supposed
to rummage through a sack of ping-pong balls for a special key, and
when I reached Moorgate I was to disembark and locate a prize-chest
filled with bubble-wrap.  Within a single poppable air-lozenge,
there'd be a micro-Travelcard entitling three acquaintances (they
were very clear on this - no-one I actually *liked*) and myself to
unlimited weekend access to the Executive SubTube - a network of
HiSpeed Slinks 2km beneath the city streets.  (Ever wonder why you
never see Anne Diamond or Joe Pasquale squeezing their be-Guccied
forms into a stuffed six-car at Hyde Park Corner?  Now you know...).

I'm off to Hackney Caldera (35 seconds from Deptford Fumarole) this
Sunday with a middle-aged divorcee from accounts called Deborah (or
Denise or something) from whom I once borrowed a stapler.  I feel
cheated somehow.

Brush away, brush away, brush away... the SR way.  How queer to see
the late-80s MM aesthetic revived as a permissible topic of
after-dinner conversation.  Of course, such banter never fell out of
favour in some postal districts.  I think it's important to remember
that the article PineFox liberally quoted was actually originally an
extended think-piece *in* MM.  Now, say what you like, but you don't
see anyone attempting that sort of analysis these days in the
weeklies, do you?  I don't think Johnny Cigarettes vomiting 500 words
on "Why we need another Clash" really counts.

I get the feeling that, before my time, NME was a vital force, riding
the punk torrents while MM laboured in the prog quagmire (I'm sure
you could go back further - NME thrilling over the latest R'n'B
imports, MM picking over trad-jazz LPs with an archivist's
exactitude).  By the time I was taking an interest, the post-Morley
NME seemed to have slipped into stultifying greyness (the Lamacq
years), while MM extolled everything vibrant and left-field*. 
Inevitably this led to yards of appalling daftness, gallons of
embarrassing overstatement and a barn-door target for their
near-neighbours' piss-taking.  I lapped it up like a thirsty kitten. 
In some small but significant way, Reynolds, Stubbs, Roberts and the
gang changed my notions of the pop experience, perhaps even the way I
listened.  Writing that was as superficially intoxicating, as
texturally tangy, as preposterous and audacious as the music it
celebrated.  What happened after SR hung up his IPC gloves is the
subject of my forthcoming tome, "Molko Looks Like a GIRL: Cessation
of Brain Stem Activity in the UK Music Press, 1994-98".  I blame the
Sutherlands.

(* But yes, as Nick D pointed out, The Cure were on the cover every
sixth issue and The Mission would habitually top all the readers'
polls.  Go figure.)

I can't swallow properly.  

Mike.

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From amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk  Thu Mar 23 18:13:17 2000
From: amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk (amy_jackson0)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:13:17 -0000
Subject: Sinister: get me away from here, i'm frying........
Message-ID: <000701bf94f3$785d2fc0$b9d2b0c2@tinypc>

hello everyone, how are you all these days?
i am sat at home listening to "seeing other people" and whistling along with
the rather wonderful piano intro......it's enough to make me wish i'd
carried on with keyboard lessons at primary school......
but now i am in secondary school, at the end of 5th year and i am a mess. my
so-called friends hate me because i have fallen out with my old best friend,
the only girl that will speak to me i've known since i was three years old
so she's more of a sister than a friend and to top it all off, i am in love
with a guy who lives at he other end of the country and i hardly ever see!!!
but he only sees me as a mate, so it is all so confusing!  he adores b&s too
(the only "real" b&s fan i know) and i miss him terribly....this is so
depressing, so i ask you all, my fellow sinisterians (?!) for advice.  how
to i get through my mid-teen crisis?  even listening to b&s isn't helping
much because it only reminds me of *him* and i can't talk to my friends
about it because most of them aren't speaking to me!!!
aaarrrrgggghhhh!!!!!!!

yours ever hopefully,
littlebelleXXX (now listening to "the boy done wrong again" and in floods of
tears, *sob*)




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From geoff at xxx.uk  Fri Mar 24 18:15:20 2000
From: geoff at xxx.uk (Geoff Sheridan)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 18:15:20 +0000
Subject: Sinister: AnTiciPate
In-Reply-To: <8WMCoIARU+14EwWR@send.demon.co.uk>
References: <8WMCoIARU+14EwWR@send.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <v04220800b5015cbf5135@[62.7.152.42]>

Kids,

It seems that when I'm not lurking, I'm list-abusing.

But is it a crime to organise a club night for London / All Tomorrows 
Parties-travelling sinisterines?

Is it a crime to design a lovely twee flyer for that club and
to post it at http://www.premonition.co.uk/atp/ ??

Is it crime to love you and want you to dance and be happy???

I don't fucking think so.

Love, or what you will,
geoff




>Lovely people,
>
>Get your dancing shoes a ready London for there's a new
>shindig in town. Or something... Thursday April 6th, the
>day before some of us set out for Camber. Mark that date
>in your little fluffy diaries carefully, there will be a
>pre-ATP do, going by the moniker of AnTiciPate, at the
>Betsey Trottwood in good old London town, Great Britain.
>There will be a couple of bands, who will be starring on
>the new CD from the out oh so very soon Papercuts issue,
>and top DJ-ing skillz playing all your favourite tunes
>from the hours of say 7.30 pm till about 12 for just 3
>English pounds. What a cracking bargain I hear you say.
>And you'd be right... If you need any info mail me or my
>more coherent conspirator Drunken Matt
>(the_fear66 at hotmail.com) and we'll tell you something
>nice... Otherwise just be there or there's big
>trouble.
>
>Te ra,
>
>Martin
>
>ear confection recordings
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From dchard at xxx.ca  Thu Mar 23 18:31:53 2000
From: dchard at xxx.ca (ipecac spice)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:31:53 -0400 (AST)
Subject: Sinister: just a bit of bitching and whining
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.1000323142034.49892D-100000@is2.dal.ca>

hello sinister people. i felt the need to vent to you all as you are all
such good listeners. first: my thesis is killing me and i can't get my
supervisor to meet with me to do the data analysis. i can't do anything
until the data analysis is done and i can't do that without my supervisor!
and the freaking thing is due monday! aaahhh!!!! i was bitching about it
on the bus today with my friend catherine and this woman overhears the
whole thing and then tells me that she's an administrator at my university
and she knows people who could lean on my supervisor and all these weird
cryptic comments. i must learn to remember that anyone could be listening
to my conversations. 

the main bitch though (and i probably mentionned this before, but it's
worth bitching about more): men who feel the need to tell me to smile!
what's up with that!? i don't know why stupid old men feel the need to
tell me to smile as i walk by. if i'm not happy why should i walk around
everywhere grinning?! i think it's incredibly rude and don't understand
why they have the desire to do it. and of course it always takes me by
such surprise that i never have a witty come back. what can i say that is
witty in response to being told to smile? any ideas?

to the girl who is freaking out about turning 20. i did too, but then you
turn 21. and for some reason 21 has been the best age ever. in a few weeks
i turn 22 and i'm not looking fwd to that much. it seems like such a
useless age. bonuses to 20 are that 21 is soon to come and you are no
longer a teen. so it's not all bad. 

i'm wearing my b&s bus tee today. i got one comment about how i never wear
t-shirts and another about how sebastian is such a good name. oh well. 

sorry this message is so lacking. i'm a bit distracted. happy weekend
everyone!

-di


he who hates is to be pitied, but he who loves is to be pitied more
-german proverb

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From amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk  Thu Mar 23 18:48:08 2000
From: amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk (amy_jackson0)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:48:08 -0000
Subject: Sinister: pink bits
References: <200003230513.AAA15126@s1.nassau.cv.net>
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adam apparatus said.......
> i need a hug.

well adam, since i am also in need of a hug, here you go......

<<H<<U>>G>>

is that better?

littlebellexxx

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From amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk  Thu Mar 23 19:21:48 2000
From: amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk (amy_jackson0)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:21:48 -0000
Subject: Sinister: pink bits
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adam apparatus said.......
> i need a hug.

well adam, since i am also in need of a hug, here you go......

<<H<<U>>G>>

is that better?

littlebellexxx


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From acook at xxx.uk  Thu Mar 23 19:39:37 2000
From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:39:37 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Part 2 (Oh God, he wasn't serious was he!?)
Message-ID: <38DA72F9.D5BA9035@cs.strath.ac.uk>

Hello again, my dear friends. Some points of order.

Miss Robin said:
>   Trying to work out if Alasdair is a comedy genius, or just 
> plain bonkers..

Unfortunately I think everyone knows the answer to that one, Robin.

I read in the paper yesterday that Yusuf Islam, TAFKA Cat Stevens has
joined the fight against the repeal of Section 28. Seems not everyone is
allowed on his fucking Peace Train, eh?

Once again we receive a reminder of the fact that Geoff Sheridan does
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING at work, except design nice flyers in a Milkybar Kid
stylee. I like.

Went to see Being John Malkovich last night, which everyone should go
and see now as it is completely insane. The first 15 minutes alone are
worth the price of admission, and if it doesn't win the Oscar for best
original screenplay then Tom Cruise is a monkey. Oh, hang on...
Also bears out the only rule of cinema; go and see EVERYTHING with John
Cusack in it. Even 16 Candles.

Anyway, on to much less good things:

'And ever, as the story drained
 The wells of fancy dry.
 And faintly strove that weary one
 To put the subject by.
 "The rest next time" - "It IS next time!"
 The happy voices cry.'

I doubt the happy part, but anyway, here it is. Get you notebook out,
Nick.

Highlights of the year so far. Part Deux.

6. Mexico! at the Mark Mcmanus Memorial Theatre.

Recreating the 1970 World Cup as a play was never going to be an easy
task, and thus it proved. The script underwent 137 separate re-writes by
56 different authors, and tragedy struck when Eric Colonial (who was due
to play 40-fags-a-day Brazilian midfielder Gerson) died of lung cancer
after taking the art of method acting to it's pinnacle. Despite these 
setbacks, director Paul Pot's vision is extraordinary in it's scope,
recreating all 32 matches in their entirety with the use of 203 actors
all plying their noble art on a stage 12ft long by 10ft wide.

The highlight of the night was undoubtedly the first round match between
England and Brazil, which flowed like a divine river of football,
perfect in almost every detail. In a wonderful homage to Beckett,
Roberto Fluggle (who plays Jairzinho) emerges from a trashcan to score
the only goal. Arthur Maelstrom, who plays Gordon Banks, is clinically
blind and has a false leg after sustaining a fatal Second World war
injury in 1958, which makes his save from Hamish McCalpine's Pele all
the more remarkable, although the goals are of course less than full
size.

McCalpine himself is he star of the night, immersing himself in the role
to such an extent that he could almost BE the great man, were it not for
the fact that he is white. Pot has described his leading man's
performance as "almost like a cross between Sidney Poitier and Sylvester
Stallone, though a better goalkeper than either man." McCalpine injects
exactly the right amount of wisdom and joy into his performance, though
tinged with sadness at having missed much of the previous 2 tournaments
through injury.

This is certainly no one-man show, however, with Gregor Pet and John
Fingly superb as Cubillas and Riva respectively, playing their parts and
taking their goals with flair and aplomb. The only let-down is the
abscence of Bobby Moore's court case, which could have injected a dose
of broad comedy into a production which at times borders on the
pretentious. It thankfully nevr reaches that stage, however, thanks to
the wonderful flourishes of Pot, whose surrealistic dream sequences are
a particular treat (witness Gerd Muller being chased through the streets
of Cairo by an enraged camel, perfectly illustrating his country's
failure to by-pass Italy in the semi-final, the camel of course
representing Franz Beckenbauer's shoulder injury), and whose talent is
the equal of his ambition in almost every scene. Except scene 34.

7. Reinventing The Meal by Darian Daur.

This wonderful new art collection demonstrates all of Daur's current
vibrancy and originality, and is a treat from first exhibit to last. In
it he creates portraits of famous figures using only food, and the
results are moving, thought-provoking and often amusing. The best pieces
(though the choice is a hard one) are "Sole", a portrait of Marvin Gaye
made entirely of fish; "Dirty Bitch", a profile of Marilyn Monroe made
of cheesecake, picking up on her outward sweetness allied to her
biscuity personality underneath and ; "Nice Hat", where the famous image
of Che Guevara is recreated using red and green chillis. Duar's work is
currently touring the country. See it if you can.

8. Breadbin by Angus Blackfoot

This new collection of stories cements Angus Blackfoot's reputation as
one of the finest exponents of the short form (or indeed any form)
currently writing. The stories here are by turns wildly funny, coldly
manipulative, angrily shoddy and lazily good. His prose is easily
readable, yet go back and you'll pick up new depths of meaning every
time. "What we talk about when we talk about gloves" is a hilarious
faux-history of hand garments; "The burglars of Morgan Street" is a
disturbing story about a man whose house is ransacked by a gang of
chipmunks while "A beery story" tells the surreal tale of a man who gets
hideously drunk, forgets the world is round and falls off. The best of
the lot, however, is "Bing!", in which Blackfoot's staccatto train of
thought style is
both highly original and highly effective. A passage follows:

"All never ears red memory maybe. Always red sorry? Bing invisible
radiation. Her body shining squelching image ears red. Edges angles
light reflects what? Bing ears spark spaniel bark fading red. One square
sausage climate change invisible brown new black. Ears shiny almost
nothing. Bing memory returns never here almost there bing ears bing red
bing at last bing it's over."

Breadbin is the kind of book which reinforces your belief in the art of
storytelling, and Angus Blackfoot is a master of the art whose voice
remains unique.

9. Whose Afraid Of Virginia Plains?

I'm not usually a fan of TV drama, too much Robson Green for my liking,
but this was a rare exception. As both a meditation on the process of
ageing and the tale of a marriage on the rocks, this was compelling
stuff. Lead actors Tracy Crum and Peter Gunn play Sandra and George
Formby
respectively, two fifty-something Londoners tied together by two
children and the bonds of marriage, though growing increasingly far
apart as Stacy refuses to accept her decscent into middle age and George
becomes increasingly infatuated with their neighbour Jill. A scene
follows:

George: (As Stacy enters, drunk). And just where have you been?
Sandra: Out fucking the night again! As if you care.
G: Of course I care! It's 4 in the fucking morning, I didn't know..
S: Well I'm here now, aren't I?
G: Stacy, why can't you just grow old gracefully? It's not Roxy Music in
'72 anymore.
S: You're as old as you feel, you can cut me open and count the rings if
you want. You know George, you're just bitter, like a lemon.
G: I'd rather be a lemon than a dried up old passion fruit like you.
S: George, you're the only one who's old. I still want to eat life.
G: Yeah well I want to eat a chicken sandwich, but we're out of chicken.
Sometimes you just have to accept spam.
S: What, as a substitute for life?
G: No, as a substitute for chicken.
S: Your candle's all burned out, George.
G: You think? Well, maybe I just need a new wick.
S: Is that a threat?
G: So what if it is. As if you give a shit.
S: Yeah George, go on. Go and fuck that bitch next door. You're nothing
without me George, and you know it!
G: And you're nothing without me, so I suppose we're stuck with each
other. You know your problem, Stacy? You think you're immortal. I
mean, who wants to live forever anyway?
S: I do, George. I do.

The drama won a well deserved Bafta award for best swearing, though
should have won more given it's raw power and energy, as Crum and Gunn
almost leap through the screen to get their points across. Both actors
are nothing short of brilliant, as is the entire production.

10. Glasgow Rangers' inevitable march towards another Scottish Premier
League triumph.

Just to show I'm not a complete arty poof. 

So there you have it. How many have you seen/listened to/read? Chalk it
up.

A new Chris Morris series tonight! I'm almost quite literally shaking.
Until next time.

Alasdair xx

"You want to do mankind a real service? Write funnier jokes." - Og,
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From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk  Thu Mar 23 19:17:44 2000
From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:17:44 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Young Gods indeed
Message-ID: <802568AB.006AEF24.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk>



Hello tricksters.  Sorry, I'm everywhere at the mo.

To anyone who was doubting that the terrific JENOWL was a real person and not
the warped vision of a 20-something prankster, there's now a photo of her in the
Gallery.  Doesn't prove anything, I suppose.

So JIHADS! is an instrumental.  That figures.

Reid, I've got worries along the same lines as you, but I know I'll have to live
with it for a few months before I can even consider jumping ship.   I just wish
they'd somehow managed to not take so bloody long over it.

Right, the rest of this post is my last word on the inkies, so the sensible ones
can stop read now.

> By the time I was taking an interest, the post-Morley
>NME seemed to have slipped into stultifying greyness (the Lamacq
>years), while MM extolled everything vibrant and left-field*.

Well Lamacq was only the live editor, wasn't he?  Poor boy - he's harmless
enough.  Grey as the err... wind,  though, you're right.  Maybe I caught the end
of MM's golden era.  I just remember them getting all excited about Cranes and
the Telescopes while the NME was getting on with the business in hand.  Err..
Baggy.

 I expect Mike's right that Reynolds et al. cared more about what they were
writing.  I just had the impression they were barking up the wrong tree most of
the time.  I did enjoy the flights of fancy sometimes, but you must remember
that in those days I was still impressed by Steven Wells' belligerence.  And
Collins and Maconie were funny in print.  The NME covered hip hop and dance
music a lot better too.

Number Ones in End of year writers' polls:

1987
NME: Public Enemy - 'Yo! Bum rush the show'
Melody Maker: The Young Gods - 'The Young Gods'
1988
NME: Public Enemy - 'It takes a nation of millions..'
Melody Maker: The Pixies - 'Surfer Rosa'
1989
NME: De La Soul - 'Three feet high and rising'
Melody Maker: The Cure - 'Disintegration'

I think hip-hop *was* the most important/exciting genre of those times and
frankly the MM's choices (maybe 1988 is debatable) just look bizarre.

When did Steve Sutherland take over at MM?  I definitely hated it then.




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From smiley at xxx.uk  Thu Mar 23 20:25:18 2000
From: smiley at xxx.uk (Mike)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 20:25:18 -0000
Subject: Sinister: The writing for pleasure you wouldn't let me read
Message-ID: <000001bf9507$e543d1c0$7702883e@n8j4k7>

Hello,

    I finished Nalda Said the other day. And I have to say I loved it. I'm
still
trying to come to terms with the ending, not because it's crap, but because
it's so... well, if you've read it you know what it is but I don't want to
say and spoil things for everyone who hasn't read it yet.
    I remember someone said they got angry with Reynard. I found myself
getting a little frustrated, but I was always more sympathetic than angry. A
lot of the things he does I can actually relate to, so that made it all make
some kind of sense.

"Step change" said,

>Just for the record. Worksop is ace. Worksop always will be ace. And twee,
>full of lovely people, with bunnies on small red tee-shirts.

I wonder if a) you're on drugs or b) I know you?! :)

    The most twee saying I've heard today is 'didily squat', as in 'you know
didily squat', which is much nicer than saying 'you know f*** all'. I'm
pretty certain that isn't how you spell didily though. Thought you might
like to know, for some reason that escapes me right now.

    I have a feeling I'm going to like the new album. just from the song
titles, I know. I'm a bit worried that the manager said it is 'a bit
shinier', because B&S have never struck me as being a shiny band. Leave the
shininess to..erm, you know. Shiny people.
    As for the EP. Well, I'm still waiting for my postie to bring me This Is
Just A Modern rock Song (abbreviations are pants). If I have to order Legal
Man as well I'll be, like, old before it arrives. I bet it's good though, as
it only can be. Hang on, let me just do some complex mental arithmetic.. 1,
2, 3. Three tracks! Sell out. Like dude, they've like totally sold their
souls to the devil man. They've like, caved in to pressure from the system,
dude. 4 Tracks are nicer. I want my EPs to last twenty minutes, and unless
that dick slap is very extended indeed then I doubt this will be happening.
Whatever happened to boo to the business world?

    Well, I'm going out on Saturday. While to many of you this would be no
big deal (I mean going out in general, rather than what I'm doing) I am in
fact very sad. I'm making the effort, though, 'cos I've heard that's what
you should do when you hit 18. I think I might be getting a bit too old a
bit too fast, cause I can't be bothered to leave the house half the time.
Before I know it I'll be considering buying slippers, and maybe even selling
all my records to buy the entire back catalogue of the Lighthouse Family.
That is when we truly die.

Not really listening to the Lighthouse Family,
Mike
smiley at rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk
http://www.rebelmonkey.freeserve.co.uk

PS. Sorry if you like the Lighthouse Family. Somebody has to.





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From dee at xxx.ie  Thu Mar 23 19:46:40 2000
From: dee at xxx.ie (Denise Power)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:46:40 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: pink bits
In-Reply-To: <001401bf94fd$1fb29fe0$c7d1b0c2@tinypc>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.20.0003231941220.12229-100000@orca.ucd.ie>


list folk ! Purists ! the self righteous ! people who hate people who kiss
extravagantly in public ! 

do something.
its pornography I tell you.
smut levels are at an all time high. 
On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, amy_jackson0 in a flirty slutty way wrote:

> adam apparatus said.......
> > i need a hug.
> 
> well adam, since i am also in need of a hug, here you go......
> 
> <<H<<U>>G>>
> 
> is that better?
> 
> littlebellexxx
> 
> In my day, people kept this sort of blatant filth off mailing lists.
what is the world coming to, I wonder.
> +------------------------------------------------------





oh god relax, i'm joking. 

well tra la la we're off to scotland. See you in the airport tomorrow to
shpwer me with kisses. I have to splash out on a cab because of the
selfish bus drivers in dublin who think they can strike any time they
like.


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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com  Thu Mar 23 21:27:42 2000
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 16:27:42 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Judy In A Dorothy Perkins Slip
Message-ID: <200003231627_MC2-9E59-D061@compuserve.com>

Hi Fluffy Bunnies,

HMMMMMM! 

A new single. 

Nice, although I think its a bit of a cheek using the B&S Song Generator to
come up with material for proper releases, even in the v 2.0 smutty format.

Also cheeky: having to fork out for 2 formats to get all the tracks. Are
Jeepster pimps if they make us pay for an extended dick slap?

Right now the thought of "an ensemble piece ...  sounding more like an
infectious northern soul dance-floor anthem" fills me with dread, but maybe
that feeling can be replaced with pleasant surprise when I actually get to
hear it.


Congratulations to Councillor Evans, who I gather may be joining the New
Sympathetic Labour Party in November.


Can I be the first to say Judy Is A Dip Stick ?


At least these are short,

David Moore
Chelmsford, UK
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From FearofMops at xxx.com  Thu Mar 23 22:13:41 2000
From: FearofMops at xxx.com (FearofMops at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:13:41 EST
Subject: Sinister: The Madness and Melancholy of March
Message-ID: <e2.29b1ef8.260bf115@aol.com>

march madness on the list. hmmmm......i must agree w/ Mr. Pelican Rob that 
while i tend to ignore sports NCAA B-Ball gets me as hyper as a pre-teen 
Ricky Martin fan.
not sure i can explain why. 
i seem to be suffering some sort of mid-life crisis, except i'm not middle 
aged so i guess mid-life would be inaccurate. anyhoo i seem to lack the 
drive/discipline/whatever to do anything. about the only thing that gets me 
going right now is music and basketball. this is thoroughly depressing since 
i take no active part in either of them. i'm merely a spectator, watching and 
listening to other people doing things i want to.  others my age are off 
getting degrees and starting careers. i go to work every day at a job that 
was supposed to have been merely for the summer, it's now been 3 years. ich. 
has anyone experienced anything similar? i just know there's more to life 
than buying cd's and filling in brackets.
enough of the depressing stuff. on to the mildly more uplifting stuff.
while i have yet to find another soul in this city who likes B&S, i have 
discovered a music store that actually has a decent selection, and in the 
very suburb in which i live no less. it turns out that the manager is into 
godspeed you black emperor! and such. she told me that those cd's never sell, 
but since she likes it, she keeps it in stock. she has restored my faith in 
humanity.
there seems to be a minor panic w/ some of the listees regarding the new 
album.
no i don't have any words of comfort, but i do want to say that i hope to 
hell you're wrong. i hope the album's brilliant and i don't want to think 
about it sucking. besides, all we can do is wait.
aahhh....i've rambled on far too long and probably put most of you to sleep 
by now, if you've made it this far. actually i'm getting quite 
sleepy....still have to return to work. yick.  stay twee, smutty, and 
debauched all.

ciao,
dustan
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From bbaron at xxx.edu  Thu Mar 23 22:33:22 2000
From: bbaron at xxx.edu (Bradley Kenneth Baron)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 16:33:22 -0600
Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #94
References: <200003231921.TAA18650@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <38DA9BB2.C10CCBFB@luthersem.edu>

Lo! My first post! I am a rat friends. A cager, in search of his cheese. My body is foul and rank. The curtains drawn, I sip upon watery porridge. Hang it all, Robert Browning! Hang it all!

Now I shiver, naked in morning's violent dawn; exposed for the farce that I am! Lo! I pray I might  be able to add to this discussion in the future. Spit on me; disease me, I am indeed foul; deserving only of being buried in a burning pile of my own feces.



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From ol01 at xxx.uk  Thu Mar 23 22:57:48 2000
From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:57:48 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: after changes upon changes we are more or less the same
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well folks I'm back from Madrid with a lovely suntan
actually that's not true but at least I've now gone white instead of my
usual pale blue colour.

there's lots that I want to reply to but I probably won't remember it all
now.

the weeklies
late eighties belonged to NME cos they at least realised that hip hop
existed and liked public enemy a lot. Early nineties to MM though cos they
actually had people who could write about music rather than just jump on a
bandwagon. these days they are both populist rubbish selling to
oasis/manics/stereophonics fans (oh yeah and those who like the one song
that travis have recorded 20 times with different lyrics) and so the only
opinion I trust for music is the list opinion, it hasn't let me down yet.

the single
I love winter wooskie, northern soul ensemble...hmmm if it's done well
it'll be great, if not it could be a bit ropey, as for the instrumental,
please let it be upbeat with lots of lovely horns and not something slow
like century of elvis without voiceover.

new album
people worried about it being crap....well lets just wait and see, I don't
think the track list is usually considered a guide to how good an album is
(Nasenbluten's tracklist for 100 percent no soul guaranteed being the
obvious exception, how could tracks like cuntface and cocksucker not be
good? and the only tracks without naughty words on a 2 record set were
called kill more people and concrete compresser). And I'm not too worried
that others than stu M are doing more writing cos it's like simon and
garfunkel sang (in their reunion concert in central park in 81, in a verse
added to the boxer) "after changes upon changes we are more or less the
same"

now what else did i want to reply to
bollox I can't remember

one point though
every male who has typed the name of the instrumental track on the new
single to the list owes the bodyparts page a photo, as does all those who
said things about damage to certain muscles (girls as well that one).

was reading saturdays guardian suplement today (missed it when I was in
Madrid) and it had extracts of sylvia plath's journal in it. Very good
which is a problem cos it'll cost 30 pounds when it's released on april
3rd, why can't I like cheap books, catherine cookson can be found in
charity shops throughout the land but not anything good.

right that's enough crap from me for now
love as always
    owen

With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in
a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon

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From Heatrexo at xxx.com  Fri Mar 24 00:14:31 2000
From: Heatrexo at xxx.com (Heatrexo at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:14:31 EST
Subject: Sinister: Straight Outta Nappies! 
Message-ID: <ce.30f6878.260c0d67@aol.com>

Hello!
    I guess I'm kind of new.. I was on Sinister before, a year ago or so, but 
then stuff happened..so now I'm back. I doubt any of you remember me...so on 
with the introduction..
My name is Heather. I'm 19 years old. I've been a fan since IYFS came out.  I 
was a naive sixteen year old... ahh..to be understood... 

Well.. now, I'm in college. double majoring in creative writing and fine art. 
double majoring until i drive myself up the wall..screen printing will most 
likely be the current cause of that... my main interests are poetry and plays 
i attempt to write both....and photography. I do that too! 

I went out to lunch with my best friend (who is also a converted B&S fan) we 
were talking about the new single... I managed to scream, "Judy is a dick 
slap," throughout a crowded restaurant. I got some dirty looks, but what do 
you expect from those lewd belle and sebastian followers... such mouths! 

Other music I like: Mogwai, Arab Strap, Godspeed You Black Emperor!, Elliott 
Smith, Looper (but I have to admit i prefer Nalda Said over Up A Tree), 
My favorite writers are Charles Bukowski and Bret Easton Ellis. 

wow. i'm quite boring. 

well...before I get sulky over how mundane I just portrayed myself to be..
I'm off...

Love and Sparkles,
Heatherxoxo

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invisible to the eye."- The Little Prince by Antoine De Saint-Exupery
Reading: High Fidelity again so i can see the film and compare..
Listening to: "Baby Got Back" is on the radio.I'm shaking what my momma gave 
me.
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From Pelican303 at xxx.com  Fri Mar 24 00:38:11 2000
From: Pelican303 at xxx.com (Pelican303 at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:38:11 EST
Subject: Sinister: more blah blah from fla fla
Message-ID: <74.2380cef.260c12f3@aol.com>

I have yet to read Alasdair's second enstallment, for I am rather distracted 
by NCAA b-ball and I'm sure it deserves my full attention, for the first was 
sheer genius.  I was so afraid that Part II was somewhere in the batch of 
e-mails I erased when I got back from break (I know...I'm a horrid person).
As for song titles et al....well, I"ve already said dick slap could have 
nothing to do certain body parts (therefore, none of us males must really 
reveal our "twee" selves for your pleasure) and I think it is rather 
rediculous to judge an album by titles.
To all those suffering crises...I can't reacall who it was (apologies), but 
someone complained about people telling them to smile more...well, if 
psychology class taught me anything (and it is questionable that it did) then 
it is that there is such a thing as the Facial Feedback Theory saying that 
the brain may take cues from the face just as much as the opposite.  In other 
words...smiling sets of synapses in the happy zone...in other other 
words...smiling makes you happy.
Try it.  Smile real big at the screen....boy, you look pretty dumb...now 
frown at the screen.  Notice a difference?
Thank you to everyone who sent belated birthday wishes....I love you all very 
much.  I went out and treated myself to a bunch of music I couldn't afford.  
I picked up Momus's Ping Pong and was blown away (I bought 20 vjs and thought 
some of it was great...but not all).  He ranks as my second fav lyricist of 
all time behind Elvis Costello.  I love someone who can really fuck with the 
English language.  Also picked up some Super Furry Animals....how damn 
cool...kinda like Spacehog with those boys from The Proclaimers doing lead 
vocals...lovin it.
Okey dokey...time to go root against Mich St.
He hops on his mod scooter and zooms off.
Rob
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From caleb.rudd at xxx.net  Fri Mar 24 00:49:30 2000
From: caleb.rudd at xxx.net (Caleb Rudd)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 00:49:30 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Trembling blue trousers
Message-ID: <001501bf952a$d11a73c0$2f9901d4@oemcomputer>

Hello hello it's fun to de-lurk* Especially since I've just got back from
the Trembling Blue Stars/Fosca/Clientele do (I really like gigs in east
London, you can get home in 10mins...if you live in E London, obviously). As
tonight saw the successful launch of Trousercuts 4 (The Trouser Menace) and
it was lovely to see the final shiny, glittery thing in all it's glory. The
fanzine and CD that is. Cover starlet Erica succeeded in acting nonchalance
throughout the night, so I predict this to be the first of many magazines
she will grace.

Some B&S musings, not sure if they're common knowledge or not. The cover for
Walk like a Pheasant (which I've hoped you've memorised or downloaded as
it's no longer on-line) is of the two Icelandic twins who frolicked on the
beach with B&S at Bowlie last year. Spookily reminds me a little of Twin
Peaks. Argh! Doppelganer!. The book they're reading is I Fought in a War.
Not sure if this is an actual book or just a prop though.

Does anyone think that it would be better if "The Model" was a cover of the
Kraftwork hit? I like the sound of "Don't Leave the Light on baby (Cause
your ugly and I won't be able to get it up)".

Off to Madrid for the weakend to visit my Sister.

aidios amigos

Caleb

* Which has of course got nothing to do with the fanzine "that Sinister
built" and website, which I built, now launching a new edition. Oh look the
details are even in my sig...

/-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=---=-=-=\
[ Papercuts fanzine Issue 4 out NOW               caleb at papercuts.co.uk  ]
[ 70 pages plus 17 track CD                  http://www.papercuts.co.uk  ]
[   Airport Girl, Ant, Baxendale, Butterflies of Love, Clientele, j-pop  ]
[   Cousteau, David Devant, Jack, Polak, Spearmint, B&S, Jinx, Grosvenor ]
\-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=/

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From MBP99KLC at xxx.uk  Fri Mar 24 02:38:38 2000
From: MBP99KLC at xxx.uk (Katy)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 02:38:38 -0000
Subject: Sinister: She plays a tape I've never heard before...
References: <200003221649.QAA29975@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <00aa01bf953a$2cfd41e0$18d4a78f@ratsmbp99klc>

...She says she hates the way that no-one's got that magic anymore...

Thanks to everyone who emailed me about joining a tape tree. I know I
haven't replied to anyone yet - I've been waiting to see if anyone else
wanted to join but hadn't got round to saying so. As I said, the way it
works is that everyone in the tree makes a tape of their favourite songs and
the tapes keep being sent round the tree, like a chain letter but with more
point. The point being that Sinisterines often mention bands they like but I
know I hardly ever get round to listening to new stuff unless it's been
mentioned at least twenty times or someone tapes it for me.

So....if anyone else wants to join let me know!

katy
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From steven.kado at xxx.ca  Fri Mar 24 04:57:59 2000
From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:57:59 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Johan van der Keuken ...in PERSON!
References: <001501bf952a$d11a73c0$2f9901d4@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <00fa01bf954d$8336f2a0$0602a7d1@yesic.com>

so yes, i havn't posted for a while again.  it is a sad thing.....

i have to do the professional thing and play music that doesn't thrill me
tomorrow.  not that all the music i'll be playing doesn;t thrill me but some
of it doesn't and some of the music i will be linked to by association is
just dreadful. i don't want to go into any more detail than that, but it
kind of upsets me.

also, this is a post designed to rouse jillian locke.  UP WITH YOU! c'mon
then, it seems that everyone i knew as merely a person has become a member
of sinister but they never post so, after having recieved 2 charming emails
from jill i'm encouraging her to go public with her fabulouslness....unless
she's still in the nursery in which case stay where you are and don't cause
a fuss.  also, ben should post.  you should ben, really.  the world needs
you.


enough with the personal torontocentricty.....

also it was a smashing day today...and i got to play stereo total, yo la
tengo and new order on my boom box, sit on a porch, blow bubbles and drink
tea, all this happening in the hight of university paranoia week in public
and between classes i feel like such a rebel.  but it was also such a hazy
nice day.

tomorrow i'll probably spend all day playing tabla and getting sore
fore-arms.

in the the most tangential way possible the following is belle and sebastian
content.  lately i've been discussing anthony perkins with friends and it
seems that the world is divided.  especially when it comes to Orson Welles'
version of the trial (of which anthony is the star and which in its original
booky version is featured on the cover of sinsiter) people either love him
or hate him.....and i think he's great.  what a guy!  never before has an
actor conveyed the same geeky awkwardness and poorly put together manners
(that i feel are so prominent in myself) and put them on the silver screen.
i even sort of look like him, and talk like him a bit too.....and he;s like
david byrne which makes him even cooler.   but others just find him
annoying, which i suppose says more about me than anthony perkins.  just
things like the way he chews that jerky or whatever after he's pushed the
car into the swamp in psycho makes my heart flutter.

the only actor to ever touch me deeper than anthony perkins is sean connery
in Zardoz.

just rent zardoz and tell me it's not 'unlike any other movie in the
universe'.

also, there's a Haneke retrospective on at the theater accross from my house
which means i'll be in for hours of unquieting teutonic film influenced by
bresson, i can hardly imagine anything more thrilling.

actually, love would be better but that's just asking too much of the
universe.

also, if anyone who is not on the northamerican continent desires a pretty
good canadian pop band to play in your town just drop me a line, we await
your call with baited breath.

sktaedvoe

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From ditko37 at xxx.com  Fri Mar 24 05:36:12 2000
From: ditko37 at xxx.com (Blake Bell)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 00:36:12 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Torontocentricty
In-Reply-To: <200003240459.EAA01622@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.20000324003612.00c966fc@mail.interlog.com>


At 04:59 AM 3/24/00 GMT, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:57:59 -0500
>From: "Steven Kado" <steven.kado at xxx.ca>
>Subject: Sinister: Johan van der Keuken ...in PERSON!
>
>i have to do the professional thing and play music that doesn't thrill me
>tomorrow.  not that all the music i'll be playing doesn;t thrill me but some
>of it doesn't and some of the music i will be linked to by association is
>just dreadful. i don't want to go into any more detail than that, but it
>kind of upsets me.

   Resist the temptation, Steve. It is taking its toll.

>enough with the personal torontocentricty.....

   Here's some apersonal torontocentricty, from a new member
to the list (namely moi)...

>also, if anyone who is not on the northamerican continent desires a pretty
>good canadian pop band to play in your town just drop me a line, we await
>your call with baited breath.
>sktaedvoe

   Sorry, Steven, but it doesn't get much prettier than our new
Toronto band, BORED WITH TODAY. What's your band's name?
   Oh wait, you said "pretty good".

                 SINcerely, Blake in Toronto.

* It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site :
                http://www.boredwithtoday.com/
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From ditko37 at xxx.com  Fri Mar 24 05:38:49 2000
From: ditko37 at xxx.com (Blake Bell)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 00:38:49 -0500
Subject: Sinister: And am I the only JO-POLL...
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.20000324003849.00c9955c@mail.interlog.com>


   ...who thinks the second-best B&S album is the
tape I made of the first three EPs?
   There seem to be FAR more memorable tunes, whenst
the three are combined, than owned by either TIGERMILK
or THE BOY WITH...

                 SINcerely, Blake in Toronto

* It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site :
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* The latest and greatest DUBSTAR Site and Mailing List at :
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From jda349 at xxx.edu  Fri Mar 24 05:56:04 2000
From: jda349 at xxx.edu (Joseph Askins)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:56:04 -0600
Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #95
References: <200003240459.EAA01622@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <000901bf9555$a407da00$4e8ace80@dhcp.missouri.edu>

Man, just when I hit my lows of the evenings, the digest comes and gives me
that 11:30 PM pick-me-up that gets me through till bedtime.  Bedtime is
looking very nice tonight, as I'm leaving for home tomorrow afternoon to
spend a glorious spring break in...Rogers, Arkansas.  Wow.  Sigh...at least
I can catch up on some much needed sleep and maybe earn a few bucks mowing
the lawn for my parents (just like the old days!).  Have my road music
picked out as well...old Smashing Pumpkins, new Yo La Tengo, all those
remastered Bowie albums (!!!), Big Star, the Cure, and yes, "Tigermilk."
Don't leave for spring break without it.

I love reading some of these posts, because it just reminds me of how
secluded we American midwesterners really have it.  It's so hard to relate
to you kids, with your NME and Melody Maker and what-have-ye.  I'm sure that
topic--the difference between music journalism and promotion on opposite
sides of the pond--is constantly worn out in lists like this, but really?  I
can't think of true dominating forces in the American press that could be
equated to the NME/Melody Maker debate.  I haven't heard any Rolling
Stone/Spin debates lately, at least.  Maybe because those magazines, deep
down at their core, are simply pulse readers for the current pop
culture--there's no loyalties or promotion of certain scenes/styles of music
at those magazines.  They *might* have had a little sway even six years ago,
but I doubt it, and either way, it doesn't matter these days.  As ridiculous
as you all make NME and MM out to be, it nevertheless seems that those mags
at least their heads dipped a bit further into the pool of music than anyone
around here.  I dunno, though, since I avoid all of that sort of stuff as
much as possible (and here I am, a magazine journalism student...kill me).

Apparently the music stores around Columbia are selling the LLPJ boxset like
hotcakes.  I knew that there were many B&S fans in the community, but I've
been amazed at just how quickly the five or six stores around here are going
through the boxes...order, sell, reorder, sell, ad infinitum.  We haven't
recieved a copy at the radio station, but I'm sure we have the EPs shoved
into the stacks somewhere already.  No rumblings yet from anyone about the
new single or LP.  You'd have thought that the Pony Express would have
brought the info to these settlers by now, but mid-Missouri is still pretty
secluded. ;)

Tackled Hesse's "Demian" a couple nights ago.  The man never ceases to amaze
me, and I find that his books simply get better and better with each
re-read.  Had one of my "screw my country" fits last night and read some
choice excerpts from "The People's History of the United States," and now
I'm on to my 500th time through "Rise to Globalism."  Ah, my country tis of
thee and all that BS...blah.

JDA

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From komis at xxx.edu  Fri Mar 24 06:29:40 2000
From: komis at xxx.edu (Dmitry Komis)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 00:29:40 -0600
Subject: Sinister: EP news
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000324002940.0082bb70@students.uiuc.edu>

i dont know if this has been mentioned before, but i thought i should post
it..

Belle & Sebastian Single Due In The U.S. May 16

                     March 23, 2000, 10:40 am PT

                                            Prior to the release of their
                                            fourth album, Belle & Sebastian
                                            will offer U.S. fans a single
                                            featuring three songs that are
                                            not included on the upcoming
                                            Fold Your Hands Child You Walk
                                            Like a Peasant full-length. 

                                            The single (released as a 12-inch
                     and a CD5), which was originally only slated for
release in
                     the U.K., is due in the U.S. on May 16 on Matador and
in the
                     U.K. May 23 on Jeepster. Its three non-album tracks are
                     "Legal Man," "Judy Is a Dick Slap," and "Winter
Wooskie." The
                     album is still slated for a June 6 release in both the
U.S. and
                     U.K. (allstar, March 8). 

(http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/redirect/leaf=allstararticle/fid=195658)

thats all.
dmitry

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From rfadden at xxx.com  Fri Mar 24 07:53:28 2000
From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:53:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: me with nothing to say and you in your autumn sweater...
Message-ID: <20000324075328.16327.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com>

you, you are so saying things and sounding gooood lately
that i have little to say - it's being said for me, and
thank you because though my brain has been very active
lately, it has come to the point where i wish for a kind of
limited telepathy because i am having a difficult time
communicating what i really want to say (yet still, i write
this...) 

Steve said: yo la tengo. and steve is right.

fading, yet still good, minor obsession: the colour orange.

current minor obsession: acknowledging spring by having all
of a sudden today a bunch of little cerebral crushes on a
few of you. i don't know what came over me. must be the
sunshine (which is orange - don't get technical; it is
*orange* like orange crayons) or that cherry blossoms
really do smell like pink or maybe it's that you're so
bloody bright! 

Alasdair with his brilliant list - i hope this boy
publishes his writing b/c i want it in my house so one day
my decendents (who will be human/computer hybrids, of
course) will find such lists and build a world around them.
ha ha on you, future!

George Henry Dickie 
                  who said

EVERYTHING IS COSMETIC
SO EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE

mmmm. and his toothbrush's philosophizing. toothbrush
philosophy: everything is cosmetic, everything is possible.
and the peasant problem. if we were still speculating on
b&s titles for the now-named lp, i would suggest "brush
your teeth, sweetheart, you need a new ideological
perspective". 

Steve, who has a boombox and a band like a monopoly hotel.
which has nothing to do with capitalism and
go-to-jail-now-you-fucking-socialist cards, but more to do
with how his band is really much more than just something i
quite like. it's something i lurve. steve also said: stereo
total. and fore-arms. you owe pho-to, steve. make it
artistick. funnily enough, not only because the funny bone
is so close to it (oh stop!), the forearm is a damn fine
place on the human body. when you turn your forearm in that
certain small way where the muscle on the top becomes
obvious and you love how it runs diagonal across your arm.
maybe it's a tendon. what do i know, someone appropriated
my all-important gray's anatomy. ulna. radius. kiss my
phalangies. i never could spell. i was always more
interested in the words.

and then i said: oh, wow! 100,000 fireflies really is
probably almost definitely well it's right up there but i
can't commit to heirarchical quantifying generalization one
of the most favourite songs of mine for the century so far.
so there, it was spring and mark c mentioned "sword
fighting" a mere one sentence before magnetic fields. what
the *hell* is a girl to do...

and i smiled at the screen. and this letter looks a lot
happier. it is a good thing this letter is not a man on the
street telling me to smile because one can't look happy
when all his teeth are broken from colliding with the
pavement after being hit with a glare of post-post-modern
feminist empathy and die die die fucker logic that breaks
his little mind in two and causes his body to crumple. i'm
violently happy. ah, but grr, di you bring up a good
negative in the land of sudden springyness. sometimes
though i like to say in an eastern european accent: i keel
you, i keel you ded. then it's always good to smile after
saying that. 

okay, so i think i mentioned right of the dick slap, er,
right off the bat, that the brain was very active and by
that i meant out of my hands free-associating. mm. the
brain is one thing that physiologically goes with what i
think it should go with, all those folds and hidden parts
and delicate vessels, seems like it grew in a weaving way,
not in a smaller-to-bigger way. mm, brains. and it was
sunny today and didn't rain today though there were clouds
and wet air; i felt like standing on cliffs and looking at
the ocean. 
that forearm picture is still not up.

i know it's wrong, but i swear it won't take long,
Robyn

=====
I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright
~~~
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From vilkas at xxx.com  Fri Mar 24 07:50:33 2000
From: vilkas at xxx.com (Vilkas D'Angelo-Horvath)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 03:50:33 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Siam is Badass...
Message-ID: <200003240845.DAA08739@granger.mail.mindspring.net>

Hellooooo, 

A lot of this post is basically a week or so¹s worth of peanut gallery
comments about what all you have said. So if you remember what you or
other¹s have said, consider yourself commented. 

Before I begin, A big hug to anyone who needs one. And happy birthday if
it¹s yours. 

The 1st thing I have to say is that my report on Splash was a requested,
unfounded, sexual rumour.  He, to my knowledge, has not engaged in any of
these things. Just making sure no-one is clueless about this.   

Anyone figured out how to get tickets for the Flaming Lips Looper show in
Baltimore?

I¹d never heard Nick Drake until the VW commercial. I thought though, this
is cool, it sounds like that Scottish band I like. I wonder what it is?

Bitch session: I received my badges from mail-order yesterday. I put them on
the button area of my bag, walked down the stairs and across the street to
my car...and the button part fell of the 3...6...9...seconds of light
button.  It¹s nowhere to be found.  I had it pinned on less than 5 minutes.
Grrr.

Ok, call me a traitor; but this ³twee² business is getting annoying. I like
twee, I like beer, just not that much at once. And...to make this pertinent:
Belle & Sebastian¹s music is much more than twee.  Ok, flame me for
this...It¹s like the Cure¹s mailing list Babble, (which I am on as well), 
when the subject of Robert¹s hair is the main thread. Ok...I know it¹s not
the main thread.  

And another thing: I might as well continue to aggravate folks while I have
the chance. (sarcasm implied in the previous comment). Please stop judgeing
the album on the basis of it¹s titles. And please stop hoping that t doesn¹t
suck.  I think it goes without saying that we all hope it doesn¹t suck. Ok?
Go ahead...flame on!

Alan Warner¹s ³These Demented Lands²(FABulous book)...Belle & Sebastian¹s
line ²Knife on a bike chain²...the man in the book who sharpens knives on a
leather strap on his bike chain...Could the song be derived from the
book?...I haven¹t even checked the dates on the book vs. the dates on the
song. 

Jason Luther, to answer your question; I lost my virginity with no music
going. Now I feel so vulnerable after revealing my secret. Jason, have many
responded to this?

To answer someone else¹s question; I know about John Peel; many fanatical
U.S. music fans know about him just cos of the peel sessions.  

Regarding Gardeningatnight¹/samantha¹s manmeat stu d comment, I think
Scotland has the highest per capita hotties of any nation. and don¹t bust my
balls on geography. Ok, the latent adolescent girl has just escaped. NB: I
am definitely not an adolescent girl. I¹m 25 but still a she.

Spacemen Pants & Fish pie: I know metaphorically where Stu M has been here.
Ever gone into the grocery store and realised that you¹re dressed really
insane. Or Another thing: you fellow art students will relate to this: Ever
left the studio to go to say...lunch...postoffice...shopping or any other
public space with your goggles or dustmasks on your head? I have done this
more times than I can remember. 

Regarding what someone said: 
I too like white boys with guitars.
I also like hiphop and rap.
I also like chicks with guitars.
I like nearly any rock and roll with violins or cellos

Mark Casarotto rules for giving me best list name ever.

Topher, that¹s *so* cool you¹re playing with Emmanuel Axe.

Stinking Lizaveta is playing on Saturday! Yay!

   Lot¹s of Sugar to All, Vilkas

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From jordiet at xxx.com  Fri Mar 24 09:08:42 2000
From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano)
Date: 24 Mar 2000 01:08:42 -0800
Subject: Sinister: Umm...a bit ridiculous...
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From jellybabs at xxx.com  Fri Mar 24 12:48:26 2000
From: jellybabs at xxx.com (Katy Dutton)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 04:48:26 PST
Subject: Sinister: Breaking out of the nursery...
Message-ID: <20000324124826.32327.qmail@hotmail.com>

Well, here I am, fresh out of nappies, so to speak.  I just thought I'd say 
hello, introduce myself etc etc.  My name is Katy...I live in Nottingham 
blah blah blah.  Not very interesting.

I suppose I should be putting some B+S content in this mail, non?  I've just 
been musing for the past few weeks on how nice the album cover is - whether 
it's just a nice visual setup, symmetrical etc etc or if it's designed to be 
representative of good/evil?  It's a bit obvious, I suppose, but a good idea 
(and one that I have to thank by boyfriend for <g>).  You may know him 
actually, he's a certain person on this list...so no list snogs for him, 
teehee.  Unless they're exceptionally smutty, of course.

I have a friend at school, in my Art class, and she's going to enter a 
competition to work at Radio One for a year out before uni.  She keeps 
asking me to think of a song lyric that expresses her.  It's a shame her 
name's not Judy, lol...

I've been recently introduced to a rather fantastic MP3 exchange site 
(www.napster.com), and I downloaded 'Poupee...' and lots of other nice 
rarities.  However, 'The Loneliness...' won't download :(

Anyway, I'll stop being boring now and get back to my Art coursework (I'm 
rather naughtily stealing the school's resources for 'non-academic' 
purposes....despite the fact that there's a big, red sticked in front of me 
that says 'ONLY SCHOOL RELATED WORK ALLOWED, RAR!'.  I'll just stick my 
tongue out at the librarian...).  It's nice to be on the list.  The feeling 
of tweeness is now complete.

Katy (or Kathryn, whichever you prefer).
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From chickfactor at xxx.uk  Fri Mar 24 14:24:13 2000
From: chickfactor at xxx.uk (brenda milton-bradley)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 06:24:13 -0800
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From untitled at xxx.com  Fri Mar 24 14:32:56 2000
From: untitled at xxx.com (Rob Foster)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:32:56 -0500
Subject: Sinister: The Thought Of Walking's Quite Absurd
Message-ID: <200003240933_MC2-9E6F-3179@compuserve.com>

Jesus and his rubber twat bomb, 

No sooner than you can say "Grade Is A Cunt" than someone's given him a
job.  I'm impressed, I don't know how he did it but Mr Morris is back on
our screens - oh shit, you know, this reminds me of the time I [crash... 
Squark] what the?

Hang on, something's just flown into my window


Oh my, look who it is.  Yep, thought so, his beaks a bit bent 'cause of my
window, he's a bit winded but I think he'll live.

Right well, [what, oh] Mr Parrot has asked me to inform you of what he's
been doing for such a long time.  Hang on, I'll translate.

"Well, no sooner had I finished my 18th book "Poems for Lovers and Pretty
Twee Things - I'm Not Gay You Know" my publisher threw a grand party for
me, very nice.  But as always, I love the lavish things in life, I got
drunk on a mixture of Pimms, Absinth and After Eight Cheesy Poofs (TM); and
as is often the way these days, I ended up in some birds bedroom, doing the
'beast with four wings.'  The bitch told me she was on the pill, AND that
she was over 16.  Would you Adam and effin' Eve it, not only was she NOT 16
she was NOT on the pill.  So, there's me, two months later, shot gun
wedding with an egg in the oven.  What could I do?  If I tried to run away
her brothers would come for me and her arse hole father would probably make
sure that Rupert was going to be an only child.  Yeah, I know what you're
thinking - Rupert - she thought of it not me.  Named after a bear she used
to read about as a kid of some god-dam thing.  Anyway, I had to stay until
the sprog was old enough to fly away.  

So that's what I've been doing."

Well, there you go, our Poetry Parrot's a father, who'd of thought it.  I
mean, I thought he'd never be a dad, if you now what I mean.

Anyway, through this sorry time in a young parrots life he still found time
to give us this - happy spring time:

Love's Growth

I SCARCE believe my love to be so pure
As I had thought it was, 
Because it doth endure
Vicissitude, and season, as the grass;
Methinks I lied all Winter, when I swore,
My love was infinite, if Spring make it more.
But if this medicine, love, which cures all sorrow
With more, not only be no quintessence,
But mixt of all stuffs, painting soul, or sense,
And of the Sun his working vigour borrow,
Love's not so pure, and abstract, as they use 
To say, which have no Mistress but their Muse,
But as all else, being elemented too,
Love sometimes would contemplate, sometimes do.

And yet no greater, but more eminent,
Love by the Spring is grown;
As, in the firmament,
Start by the Sun are not enlarg'd, but shown.
Gentle love deeds, as blossoms on a bough,
>From love's awakened root do bud out now.
If, as in water stirr'd more circles be 
Produc'd by one, love such additions take, 
Those like so many spheres, but one heaven make,
For they are all concentric unto thee;
And though each Spring do add to love new heat,
As princes do in times of action get
New taxes, and remit them not in peace, 
No Winter shall abate the spring's increase.
Nor must wit
Be colleague to religion, but be it.

I've said my good byes to the little fella and he's just flown off
muttering something about dropping in on a Wizard or something, a tiny
Wizard, erm, oh, a Narrow Wizard, yeah that's it.  

He also said that "I met Judy at a party for my 17th book release and to
the best of my knowledge she wasn't a dick slap, mind you, I was a little
bit drunk."  Just after he said that there was a long silence and he turned
pale!

PS, I think I remember Heatherxoxo, is it still wonderful being a girl?
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From Heatrexo at xxx.com  Fri Mar 24 16:08:49 2000
From: Heatrexo at xxx.com (Heatrexo at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 11:08:49 EST
Subject: Sinister: Me complaining! 
Message-ID: <2f.307421b.260ced11@aol.com>

In a message dated 3/24/00 8:37:15 AM Central Standard Time, 
untitled at compuserve.com writes:

<< PS, I think I remember Heatherxoxo, is it still wonderful being a girl? >>

Hi Everyone!
    There are two things I don't like about being a girl...(take notes!)
Whenever I go into a recordstore alone, I'm always asked, "if that a gift for 
the boyfriend?" figuring that I apparently listen to 98 Degrees or S Club 7 
or something.
Also, since I don't listen to stuff like that...I listen to what I do to make 
my boyfriend happy... because I'm also apparently brain dead. I don't even 
have a boyfriend! 
grrrr that makes me grumpy..yes, the above scenerios, but also i don't have a 
boyfriend! (he has to like B&S, that's my problem..)
    Wow. I wish I remembered all the shite I used to post! Because much of it 
was probably erm...shite. I'm happy being a girl...except men going into the 
field of writing seem to get taken more seriously which makes me angry. like 
all i can write about is my period or something.... grrr! 
    Now for some naughty bits..
Last night, I went to my bestfriend's house and we were watching Real Sex on 
HBO... anyhow..there was a segment about the making of dildos and whatever 
fake vaginas are called...first they showed how people have model to make a 
mold.... then they showed this maquiladora of middle aged mexican women 
shining the dildos.. me and my friend giggling..alas, it got better... 
then... all of a sudden they played this song like the Oompa Loompas from 
Willie Wonka and the Chocolate factory.. but it was insanely naughty.. 
Instead of having another puzzle..the line in this song was.."I've got 
another dick for you.." I found it extremely funny.

Sorry for the lack of Belle and Sebastian content.. 
Thanks for reading...

Laters,
Heatherxoxo
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From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk  Fri Mar 24 15:12:41 2000
From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:12:41 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Everybody's trying to make it another 60s retro record
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Me *again*,

I'm not really prejudging the album the basis of the track titles.  I'm just
with the Dossinger boy in detecting a current of 60s pastiche that I don't
ultimately think brings out the best in the band.  Where do I detect this
current?  Well, on the basis of some of the new songs that I have heard live
(not all of them making it to the album) and other people's descriptions of
'Legal Man' and some of the tracks on the album.  It was 'Dirty Dream Number
Two' that first got me worried.  A favourite of many, I know, but for me the
first time I heard it was the the time it sounded best, unlike other tracks
which grew and grew on repeated listening.  There's something about pastiche
that precludes a song really mattering, having a life of its own.  Now I know
this could all be idle speculation, and the album might not be one big 60s fest,
or it might confound my prejudices and *be* a 60s fest and still wonderful, but
I was just wanting Reid to know that he wasn't the only one with slight worries.

Having said all that, I think judging a record solely on the basis of its
tracklisting is a *fantastic* idea anyway.  Stop being so sensible.

It's weird the way the artwork has disappeared from both the Beepster and band
sites.   Do you think they're trying to stop bootleggers or something more
sinister is at work?  Have the twins of evil objected to their representation?

I'm still reeling from Alasdair's latest missive.   He's right about 'Being John
Malkovich'.  Terrific script.  If you're put off by the worry that it's just
zany art-wankery then don't be.  It's played so straight, that's what's so good
about it.  The characters have their on-screen existence pared down to the
status of puppets (ooh - ironic) in the film's comic vision.  They don't display
the usual boring 'human' ways of dealing with events such as you normally expect
in films.  Except John Malkovich himself, who therefore has rings run around him
by everyone else.  In a way it reminded me of Hal Hartley's short film
'Ambition', which is a blast too.  Oh, and if anyone is interested what my idea
of the sexiest thing on earth is, then see Catherine Keener's Maxine in 'Being
John Malkovich'.

Vilkas said:

>Ok, call me a traitor; but this 'twee' business is getting annoying. I like
>twee, I like beer, just not that much at once. And...to make this pertinent:
>Belle & Sebastian's music is much more than twee.  Ok, flame me for
>this...

Ooh no, we don't go in for that flaming business round here.  And anyway, you're
quite right.  Please remember that not all of us go along with the idea that
being a B&S fan means being a sickly sweet thumb-sucker and proud of it.   I
don't mind if people want to be that way, but please don't drag me into it.
I'm in danger becoming the self-appointed Sinister version of the Academie
Française on this point, but seeing as the bloody word won't go away, and people
keep asking about it, perhaps I ought to stick a dictionary definition in a sig
file.  Yes, have your own definition if you like.

    Nick xx

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 Twee adj. Brit. excessively sentimental, sweet or pretty. [C.19 from
 'tweet', mincing or affected pronunciation of SWEET]

 ie. NOT GOOD

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From Januarythaw at xxx.com  Fri Mar 24 16:33:26 2000
From: Januarythaw at xxx.com (Januarythaw at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 11:33:26 EST
Subject: Sinister: Person 1: I woke up feeling Randy this morning Person 2: Who's
	Randy?
Message-ID: <37.2eb7784.260cf2d6@aol.com>

a certain Reid Dossinger said:
<<<Oh, joy!  We're back to talking 
about B&S all the time.  >>>
        ~hahahaha well i'm here to 
    bugger it all up for yous haha. it's my job dont'ya know.~ ;o)

hehe. so other than being in the nursery
this is probably the longest span of time 
that i've not posted. and all these new 
people to scare away                         *rapture* mwahaha*

(i'm trying something new here bear with me) 

        new album. 
                                    new single. 

whats a girl to do? 
            
                                                    dye her hair!!

when one thinks of dick slap! (this word requires an exclamation)
            
            what colour comes to mind?
        
        **RED** why is that? 
            
                        or is this just my inane perversion?  
(it's your perversion say the masses)

i hate that word. pervert. it sounds soo evil...

/me rummages around for the thesaurus

    PERVERTED (adjective)
                    synonyms: debased, corrupted, debauched, depraved, 
vitiate,                    vitiated                    
                        related words: defilred, polluted, tainted; 
contorted,                      distorted, warped; abused misued outraged

    PERVERT (verb)
            1)         synonyms: debase1, animalize, bastardize, bestialize,    
                brutalize, corrupt, debauch, demoralize, deprave, warp
                        related words:  abuse maltreat, mistreat, misusue,      
                outrage; ruin

            2)      synonyms: abuse 2, misapply, misemploy, mishandle,          
        misimporve, misuse, prostitute
                        related words:  ill-treat                               
    

            3)      synonyms: misrepresent, belie, colour, distort, falsify, 
garble,                     miscolour, misstate, twist warp

        debaser....hahaha....                                                   
                                    to the beat ya'll body rock ya'll....
            have you lot heard that song? it's oddly good....

it's rained the past three days. i'm in heaven                                  
(except for the fact that my car is filthy now)

i really did dye my hair tho.                                               
                red.(dick slap!) blood red. it's wondermous. *happy dance* 

although when i rinsed my hair it dyed my fingers too. but more hot pink than 
red.            
                                *pink fingers*

                as opposed to pink flamingos   *i still haven't seen this 
film*

i dated a randy once(see subject line) 

he was too clingy. most guys are too clingy. but i want that. but not in some 
sort of pathetic way. a nice way. an i love you sort of way. in a your my 
goddess let me worship you but i'm still my own person sort of way            
                
                
                
                !r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!
                !r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!             
!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!a!r!


dont' stop ya'll                                                                
                    does anyone remember neil from the real world london? mmm 
he's was a hottie. 

                                        mhmm......

the baron bradley kenneth:

<<Lo! My first post! I am a rat friends. A cager, in search of his cheese. My 
body is foul and rank. The curtains drawn, I sip upon watery porridge. Hang 
it all, Robert Browning! Hang it all!

Now I shiver, naked in morning's violent dawn; exposed for the farce that I 
am! Lo! I pray I might  be able to add to this discussion in the future. Spit 
on me; disease me, I am indeed foul; deserving only of being buried in a 
burning pile of my own feces.>>

                lo! a fellow after me own kidney stones


and our resident wizard who is apparently wafishly narrow:

<<well folks I'm back from Madrid with a lovely suntan
actually that's not true but at least I've now gone white instead of my
usual pale blue colour.>>

            don't ask me why but this made ma laugh uproariously. 
        mostly probably because i can relate to this terribly. my 
semiboyfriend 
        mainly sextoy says i'm too pale and he's a natural red head hahahaha.
        i always date redheads whats up with that? some sort of complex i 
must        date albino boys..... :/ :B :x


lovely heather with the kisses and hugs:

<<then they showed this maquiladora of middle aged mexican women 
shining the dildos.. me and my friend giggling..alas, it got better... 
then... all of a sudden they played this song like the Oompa Loompas from 
Willie Wonka and the Chocolate factory.. but it was insanely naughty.. 
Instead of having another puzzle..the line in this song was.."I've got 
another dick for you.." I found it extremely funny.>>

            polishing dildos. oh my. think of that next time you use/buy/or 
even                    contemplate buying one eh? hahaha. ooopadeedoo

        well back to the whole point of this infernal list and the point of 
posting. not                            that i'm ever on topic. /topic JUDY 
IS A DICKSLAP!!!!

i agree with brandan. (fearofmops at aol.com)                                      
    he said he doesn't want to think about the album sucking.   
or being awful for more graceful venacular.  
                    i think it will be fine. i'm such a freaking pessimist 
for once i'm going to think only happy thoughts about my favourite group.       
            
(who else thinks richard c. is right up their alley? and look ma he's not an 
albino!)                        i'm excited. yessum....

:o) i've fallen in love with the flaming lips all over again.   

finally saw eyes wide shut last night.                                          
                                
                    it made me very amorous.  

i was lucky i had my albino lover with me
                        (he's not really an albino and i have nothing against 
albinos.                                    i'm just being rude. dont mind me)

 now i must go take a shower. and put on clean pantaloons.

oi vey.  
                    love and gak :o) ciao belli 

i.ris xo
a spoonful weighs a ton...
visit:
www.angelfire.com/journal/standhere/index.html
or i'll come to your house and freeze your undies
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From paularathoon at xxx.com  Fri Mar 24 17:04:07 2000
From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:04:07 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Jam and stuff
Message-ID: <20000324170408.27350.qmail@hotmail.com>

Seems to me like the attempts to predict the style of the album via the song 
titles is very much like trying to divine the future through tea leaves. 
However, it is a lot more fun and doesn't require drinking nasty tea with 
the leaves still in it so I think the Kids are all right.
And remember it is the difficult 4th album so if they want to play about 
with  Riverdance-esque song arrangements and Kenny G style musoings then it 
is the Rock Stars privilege and we should be grateful for allowing our 
stereophonic cups to runneth over via the album.

On another note �20 will get you a promo acetate copy of the new Looper 
album if you know where to get it..... And I do.

As for Jam last night on CH4- pure genius, no credits, no adverts, and a 
whole barrel of sickness...

Back to the tea divining- it says ... Stuart M is a bampot, no sorry a 
trumpet.

The horror, the horror
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From timothy at xxx.net  Fri Mar 24 17:07:52 2000
From: timothy at xxx.net (Scampi)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:07:52 -0000
Subject: Sinister: a little pig goes a long way...
Message-ID: <00af01bf95b3$7fe59460$2a00010a@hostb42.internal.zone>

Fancy that, I'm yet another toddler who, with a hop skip and a jump, has
dived over the stair gate into post-nursery freedom, leaving a life of
fisher price behind.  There seems to be loads of us growing up at the
moment - the more 'mature' sinister listees must have been bed hopping like
bunnies last year to generate such a baby boom, no wondering everyone seems
sooo friendly.

Anyway, I don't know much about the song, but dick slapping sounds very
painful to me, I can't imagine anybody wanting to pay for it really.  Unless
they like that sort of thing.  Perhaps it is one of lifes little puzzlers.
A bit like a friend of mine who is obsessed about her colourblind belle and
sebastian t-shirt, but she is colourblind so to her it is just a series of
dots.  Or how on earth do they got the chocolate on to malteasers with out
leaving a finger print or a flat side where they have had to put it down
while they coat the other side.  I have a simple brain, and it hurts.

Damn it, I've gone and dropped my lolipop now

love and kisses,
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From melvisco at xxx.com  Fri Mar 24 17:43:31 2000
From: melvisco at xxx.com (molly dahl)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 12:43:31 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Dickslap indeed.
Message-ID: <A7708F62DF004D1178B300807C90AA21@melvisco.francemail.com>

Hello All!

Last night, while driving to a restaurant with my friend, he was making some crass remarks about my driving, ("when did your car turn into a go-cart?") which, I must confess held a bit of truth. Nonetheless, I replied with. "Oh shut it, dickslap."  It was a great moment in the life of Molly, you know, one of those things you say that makes you proud to be so witty.  Mind you, I'm not quite sure if I used "dickslap" in the proper context, but it just seemed to work.

I must be off.  My French Film class is calling.  Has anyone ever seen "India Song" by Marguerite Duras?  We're watching that right now.  Oh my... the sound quality is quite bad, so I'm not comprehending all that is going on... and there's really not much anyway.  So far, just some people lying on a floor.  Hot damn!

Happy Friday!
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From splag at xxx.net  Fri Mar 24 17:58:39 2000
From: splag at xxx.net (Scott Plagenhoef)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 11:58:39 -0600
Subject: Sinister: Everybody's trying to make it another 60s retro
	 record
Message-ID: <200003241757.RAA12070@missprint.org>

Well, as I usually do, I have to agree with Nick (who despite his apologies
is always a pleasure to read) when he says:

I'm just with the Dossinger boy in detecting a current of 60s pastiche that
I don't ultimately think brings out the best in the band.  Where do I detect
this current?  Well, on the basis of some of the new songs that I have heard
live (not all of them making it to the album) and other people's
descriptions of 'Legal Man' and some of the tracks on the album.  It was
'Dirty Dream Number Two' that first got me worried.  A favourite of many, I
know, but for me the first time I heard it was the the time it sounded best,
unlike other tracks which grew and grew on repeated listening.  There's
something about pastiche that precludes a song really mattering, having a
life of its own.  Now I know this could all be idle speculation, and the
album might not be one big 60s fest, or it might confound my prejudices and
*be* a 60s fest and still wonderful, but I was just wanting Reid to know
that he wasn't the only one with slight worries.

The pastiche quality to the band's later work which may simply be a result
of the democratization of the songwriting process -- and not just simply
sharing lyrical composition, but the assumption that working so long in the
studio on this album suggests that the band is constructing the music more
as a group rather than simply taking songs that Stuart had written over the
period of a few years and following his direction/instruction (or are
repeatedly second-guessing themselves). Even the rave-ups on "Arab Strap"
are newer compositions than, say, the more ethereal "Simple Things" or
"Sleep the Clock Around," which -- if I'm not mistaken -- dated back a few
years before their official release. Based on the unreleased songs and
descriptions of the new ones, Stevie's fingerprints seem to be more
pronounced -- and he does seem to be the archtypical rocker of the group.
Exactly why this results in covers of Northern Soul songs such as
"Landslide" I don't know.

That said, I agree with Nick that this doesn't bring out the "best of the
band," which is arguably the sensibility of Stuart's lyrics, but his
(stuart's, not nick's) -- for the lack of better words -- disaffected,
winsome outlook on the world *was* likely to be altered when he went from
writing songs for himself on a four-track to doing so in the glare of the
public with the knowledge that they would be recorded and released. The
relative innocence of the band's early work, when they didn't expect to
reach an audience of any size, frankly can't be duplicated now. Otherwise,
they may be guilty of karaokeing themselves.

On a more personal, wank-off note (which it could be argued that every post
is), I risked damaging the list's good name by dubbing my fantasy Major
League Soccer team Sinister FC, but after the first week of thrilling First
Division American soccer action our list's namesake sits in first place out
of the 2,400 or so participants -- and all this without being able to afford
to purchase the Chicago Fire's two-goal hero Hristo Stoichkov. Strange how
an aged legend can have his career resurrected playing against a bunch of
former American college boys, eh?

Have a lovely weekend,
scott.


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From cdarwin at xxx.uk  Fri Mar 24 23:14:35 2000
From: cdarwin at xxx.uk (Miss Cressida Jane Darwin)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 18:14:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: jouissance and cheese and mark e. smith
Message-ID: <SIMEON.10003241835.G@brookspc.sghms.ac.uk>


with jouissance rearing its head briefly last week, i 
thought that *some* of you might be interested in an 
old article from City Life, where: 

"The Fall's MARK E. SMITH marries cheese with Barthes' 
'jouissance' and Eisenstein's Alexander Nevsky to 
pleasurable effect"

(allegedly) - seems highly probable to me...

http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/~cxl/fall/fallnet/article_1

pah! - what does simon reynolds know?




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From CountingStars at xxx.net  Fri Mar 24 18:30:10 2000
From: CountingStars at xxx.net (Painting With Light)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 18:30:10 +0000 (GMT+00:00)
Subject: Sinister: Here goes everything
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From PolyesterGroom at xxx.com  Fri Mar 24 18:34:28 2000
From: PolyesterGroom at xxx.com (PolyesterGroom at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:34:28 EST
Subject: Sinister: A First TIme Message of Last Time Words
Message-ID: <28.3585b64.260d0f34@aol.com>

Salut all to those who live and breathe the electronic renaissance..

this is my virgin experience in writing to the list, the first undoubtedly of 
many pertinent and eloquent postings. A Toronto boy tis I, and a devotee of 
the belle and sebastian persuasion

so that is my welcome, any returns of niceness will be appreciated

adieu

nick
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From PolyesterGroom at xxx.com  Fri Mar 24 19:20:24 2000
From: PolyesterGroom at xxx.com (PolyesterGroom at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:20:24 EST
Subject: Sinister: International Coloring Contest
Message-ID: <54.247e7af.260d19f8@aol.com>

To all the Toronto inhabitants of the list;

tonght is the international coloring contest at RAncho Relaxo. Feel free to 
attend, they tend to play Belle and Sebastian as well as a multitude of other 
interesting and pervasive bands....


I will be there...wearing a b&S shirt nonetheless (the warm weather beckons 
lighter clothing, only a matter of nature) and is orange in color

hope one and all can attend, it will be hopefully entertaining

Nick
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From wffej at xxx.com  Fri Mar 24 20:35:50 2000
From: wffej at xxx.com (wffej !!!)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:35:50 EST
Subject: Sinister: the new looper album is gonna be wicked awsome
Message-ID: <20000324203550.33671.qmail@hotmail.com>

i just saw one of the best shows last night with looper and the flaming 
lips, it was pure entertainment throughout.  its a shame that stuart david 
left b+s, but you can tell its worth it for looper, cuz the new songs were 
absolutly amzing! they were more songs than stories and soo danceable, hes 
gonna be missed in the songwriting for belle and sebastian i think.  but 
overall the show was great.  the lips gave everyone little headphones again, 
which worked great, cuz you could here the show perfectly, i really suggest 
to everyone to go, you'll see confetti, big bunnies danicng in the crowd, an 
awsome gong, great videos, pure entertainment, a 10
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From martyg10 at xxx.com  Sat Mar 25 00:12:27 2000
From: martyg10 at xxx.com (Martin Graham)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 00:12:27 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Stuff..
Message-ID: <20000325001227.17703.qmail@hotmail.com>



I was thinking these thoughts recently and realised that the sinister List 
was the place to air them and get feedback from LikeMindedSouls.

I've been suffering from extreme coincidence syndrome lately. Things keep 
going my way and positive experiences seem to be queueing up to force 
themselves upon me.

This is a good thing, but it kinda fills me with dread, like maybe I'm about 
to die or something. This started me thinking about Heaven and the afterlife 
and stuff. So I tried to picture heaven, and all I could see were the people 
I love who have gone before.

My aunt Margaret, who died of leukemia 2 years ago. An amazing woman, a 
beacon of sensitivity and intellect. My uncle Tommy and my auntie Pat, good, 
solid people struck down before their time. My little cousin Ally, who died 
aged 17 way back in '91. I can still see his smirk and hear his voice. My 
Grandpa John. He sang 'Ragtime Cowboy Joe' at family parties. My Granny 
Nessie, daft as brush but great with it. My Granny May and Grandpa Wullie, 
smiling at the chaos their grandchildren brought to their home. My aunt 
Rosemary, taken by cancer before she turned 30 back in 1984.

I see all these people waiting for me, and they are smiling and happy. They 
wait for me and they want to talk to me, to tell me how the rest of their 
lives have unfolded and to fill in the gaps of stuff I don't know. I don't 
see this as any kind of paradise or utopia, merely the natural conclusion of 
existence, to be as one with those who brought me into the world.


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From minake at xxx.ee  Sat Mar 25 01:47:00 2000
From: minake at xxx.ee (Maarit)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 03:47:00 +0200
Subject: Sinister: Trying to see lightbulbs from this side 
Message-ID: <009401bf95fc$03e99480$1e696ac2@user>

Hello sinister,

Jordi mentioned "Funny games" and I agree- it is a must-see film. Partly
because of the music.
A question. I now have a faint idea what kind of music you lot are into.
Apart from B &S apparently.
But are any of you into Dimitri from Paris? ( "A Very Stilish Fille" is a
perfect song for dressing up...). And a more specific
question to french people on the list. Have you ever heard of a band Ollano?

It was probably Jason who asked  which song we lost our virginity to. Mine
was Steve
Vai's "Tender Surrender". I quess the name is pretty nice. Or true.

Nick pointed out:
> Please remember that not all of us go along with the idea that
>being a B&S fan means being a sickly sweet thumb-sucker and proud of it.
>I don't mind if people want to be that way, but please don't drag me into
it.
I guess I should give him my list crush vote for this. Oh, I'll wait for
more.

Then there was Heather who said:
>.... then they showed this maquiladora of middle aged mexican women
>shining the dildos..
Think of her children who get asked. "Hey, what's your mother up to?". "Erm,
well, shining dildos"

Well, now that you've reached so far- this is my first proper post. Proper
used in a blurry way ;)
If there are any spelling mistakes forgive me, it's late. Or call me a dick
slap. It's late.

And remember kids- tequila can't really harm you. Unless you drink a lot or
not at all.

Maarit
I guess I must have messed it up --- Gus Gus





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From aconover at xxx.net  Sat Mar 25 00:58:21 2000
From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 19:58:21 -0500
Subject: Sinister: pink bits
In-Reply-To: <002301bf9517$729ad780$48da0493@hofstra.edu>
Message-ID: <200003250313.WAA01471@s1.nassau.cv.net>

On 23 Mar 00, at 14:30, Kristen Mullarkey muttered into a little tape recorder:

> I have a paper on that topic if you would like it. 
> Very good book.
> Hope all is good it is a beautiful day FINALLY.

no, i got it done, but thanks for the offer!

yeah, beautiful days... i walked home from the bus stop reading 
kerouac, and it was gorgeous, and when i got home i found a package 
from the girl i was in love with... she had sent me a birthday 
present, a cd and a tape with a handmade booklet of colored paper. so 
i sat out on the warm front porch and read the letter and read 
kerouac and played guitar, and it was lovely.

(i really liked that last paragraph so i'm sending this to the list 
too. hello, list!)

- adam

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From aconover at xxx.net  Sat Mar 25 01:13:27 2000
From: aconover at xxx.net (adam apparatus)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 20:13:27 -0500
Subject: Sinister: pink bits
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.20.0003231941220.12229-100000@orca.ucd.ie>
References: <001401bf94fd$1fb29fe0$c7d1b0c2@tinypc>
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On 23 Mar 00, at 19:46, Denise Power muttered into a little tape recorder:

> smut levels are at an all time high. 
> On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, amy_jackson0 in a flirty slutty way wrote:
> 
> > adam apparatus said.......
> > > i need a hug.
> > 
> > well adam, since i am also in need of a hug, here you go......
 
> > In my day, people kept this sort of blatant filth off mailing lists.
> what is the world coming to, I wonder.

the real question is... why didn't i get a hug from -you- yet, dearie?

ok, well, maybe i have to supply one myself, first... *HUG*

- adam


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From Heatrexo at xxx.com  Sat Mar 25 05:13:54 2000
From: Heatrexo at xxx.com (Heatrexo at xxx.com)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 00:13:54 EST
Subject: Sinister: Ain't gonna work for no soul-suckin' jerk
Message-ID: <cb.370ddf9.260da512@aol.com>

Hi Everyone..
    It's me..the grumpest heather on the planet!! "Why are you grumpy?" 
Oh..thanks for asking...(that felt like Annette Benning in American Beauty... 
Ok...i'll tell ya...
I worked until nine. After work, I rushed to the library to meet my friend at 
this poetry reading. This poetry reading isn't your average reading. It's a 
high school one... which just reaks of ickiness. It was a high school 
one..for his high school. I knew some of the people. I was prepared for it 
this time. I listened to all the limericks...and I didn't complain once! 
well...actually under my breath a few times..
More importantly..SHE was there.. not like I didn't except her not to be 
there. But I almost forgot how grumpy she makes me!!! Grrrrr! 
This poetry reading is all of other people's poetry..some people read 
originals.. most is from books.. anyhow. There is something about her voice. 
She reads a lot of poems from the books. Each one she reads with a certain 
i'm-better-than-all-of-you tone. And when other people read, she sits and 
rolls her eyes. 
HER SHOES!!!!
she has these shoes that belong on a witch or a Cure fan... They look like 
shoes that belong on women with big calves. 
So... I decide to go home. I was walking out with me friend explaining how I 
was tired and kind of grumpy.. and I was running to my car because I couldn't 
get "Belle and Sebastian" the song... out of my head.. He was saying how he 
wanted to listen to B&S too... I told him to go home...then he said the 
unthinkable... "If i wanted to listen to them IYFS is by the stereo 
inside".....i automatically said who brought it?! Thinking if he said he did, 
I could yell at him...But IT WAS HERS!!! i don't like her more now!

I don't know... If it was someone I admired, I'd admire them more..you know.. 
but since I can't stand her....this makes me hate her more.. I'm just a 
bitch..who's protective of her favoritest band in the whole wide world! Am i 
the only one who's like that? I hope not.

Well... I'm off to sleep.

Laters,
Heatherxoxo

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From boucherphilip at xxx.com  Sat Mar 25 09:58:08 2000
From: boucherphilip at xxx.com (The Vicar)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 09:58:08 GMT
Subject: No subject
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From linus at xxx.nu  Sat Mar 25 10:53:18 2000
From: linus at xxx.nu (Linus)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 11:53:18 +0100 (CET)
Subject: Sinister: wasn't this table much higher yesterday?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1000325112831.26406A-100000@a309.smalands.lu.se>

Good morning, sinisters. I just came out of the nursery and thought I
should try to tell you all a brief story about a 19-year-old, swedish
student called Linus and from who's point of view i tend to experience
life in general. For the time being, I had to ditch my drama/theatre
course at the university here in Lund where I live to go and serve my
country. Since I am an extremely nice and pacifistic person I didn't
really appreciate the thought of weapons and killing and other gruesome
thingies the military likes. Anyway, since I have a way of talking myself
out of trouble they sent me home and put me in a school where they teach
us like psychology and stuff. It's a long story... =)

Anyway, I know there was a post a couple of days back that I wanted to
reply to, but of course I forgot what it was... It probably had some dick
slapping in it, though. Let's settle with that, ok? I really have to go
now. I wish you all the best.

L.

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From apytmw at xxx.uk  Sat Mar 25 11:41:54 2000
From: apytmw at xxx.uk (Mark)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 11:41:54 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Easter bunnies - they're at it like rabbits
Message-ID: <E12Yowc-0003ON-00@nottingham.ac.uk>

HOwdy all,

No more posts either way for a month, as I'm going home for 
Easter.  I'll miss you all, and I look foward to coming back to a 
clogged up mailbox - I recon there'll bve close to 1000 mails to deal 
with.  WOOHOO!!!

If anyone sees someone who looks like an extra from the Smiths 
walking around looking lonesome at all tomorows parties, My 
names Mark and I dont bite (much) so say hi :-)

LOve and HUgs,

Mark xxx
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From ynoh at xxx.edu  Sat Mar 25 13:34:59 2000
From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 08:34:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: what's in a name?
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.04.10003250734140.16211-100000@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu>

i'm tempted to give a semantic explanation for the oddness of the title.
a superficial mental perusal of their discography and of song/album
titles, in general, leads me to the conclusion that it's on account of it
being a sentence.  most song titles seem to be noun phrases, if one
accepts that titles like 'going nowhere fast' are nominal gerunds.  this
is appropriate since the title names an object, albeit an abstract one.
if the title is a sentence, especially an imperative one, the only way one
can assign it a reference is by imagining a context in which it could be
uttered.  so stuart is challenging our imaginative resources:  it's not
an object, it's an entire context!  if the rumour (please forgive me for
calling it a rumour if it really is an established fact) that stuart found
it in a bathroom stall is true, then it has the flavour of the piece of
lore about David Bowie coming up with songs by picking words (or lines?)
randomly. sort of John Cage-ish, like (here i'm pretending to be well
informed about things i don't necessarily know that much about - i saw an 
exhibit once, which was really neat, but that's about it)?  i think it's
ok to think of the titles in and of themselves.  i would never have
imagined that 'the boy with the arab strap' would be my favorite song,
the only one i really like, in fact, on that album, based on the title.
and even if you don't like felt, wouldn't you have to agree that their
song titles are amazing?  but 'judy is a dick slap' is awful, sounds
misogynistic, even though i don't know what 'dick slap' means.

on the plane i read _the rachel papers_ by martin amis, which was really
good.  don't you always find yourself liking earlier works better than
later ones, with books and with music, though in the case of music, it
might take a few releases, i guess cos it's easier to put out records than
get published?  even though it was supposed to be from the 70's, it didn't
sound that dated - only the fact that he kept on calling everyone a
hippie.  so the 60's were perpetually out of favor thereafter, i gather.
but on the sheet of 60's stamps i got, the barbie in a pillbox hat is
really cool.

cheers,
youn


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From ol01 at xxx.uk  Sat Mar 25 14:32:33 2000
From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 14:32:33 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: lets do it like they do on the discovery channel
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10003251406220.19032-100000@gromit.students.stir.ac.uk>

hi folks
it's me and the parrot here, we decided to post up a poem sooner rather
than later as the parrot wants to keep moving, young Rupert keeps trying
to get in touch with him for some money.

in between looking for poems we decided to go shopping and I listened to
the fonda 500 album in Virgin. I thought it sounded great and the parrot
who was on my shoulder said he liked what he could hear seeping out of the
headphones, so there you have it two list people recomemding the album in
one post, I just wish that the bank would sort out my overdraft so that I
can buy a copy.

Anyway onto the poem
it's Rudyard Kipling, one of the "Just So Verses", and was brought to mind
by a particularly annoying girl who came round to see me when she was
drunk the other night, she kept asking lots of really annoying questions.

I keep six honest serving-men
  (They taught me all I knew)
Their names are What and Why and When
  And How and Where and Who.
I send them over land and sea,
  I send them east and west;
But after they have worked for me,
  I give them all a rest.

I let them rest from nine till five,
  For I am busy then,
As well as breakfast, lunch, and tea,
  For they are hungry men.
But different folk have different views.
  I know a person small-
She keeps ten million serving-men,
  Who get no rest at all!

She sends 'em abroad on her own affairs,
  From the second she opens her eyes-
One million Hows, two million Wheres,
  And seven million Whys!

Mmmm I liked that, hope you did too, perhaps I should send a copy to the
girl who brought it to mind, then again maybe not, she might think it's
sweet of me to send her poetry.
Well the poetry parrot says that he's sick of this bloody Scotish weather
and so he wants to go somewhere a little warmer. He's of to Greece to see
the muse of poetry herself Kaliope, it's warm there, hard for little
Rupert to get in touch with him, and if he's really lucky he may be able
to persuade Kalls to share some of her own poetry with us.

well it's goodbye from me and SKWARRK from him.
love and ham sandwiches
    owen and the poetry parrot

With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in
a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon

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From jamesmcsuperman at xxx.com  Sat Mar 25 06:39:10 2000
From: jamesmcsuperman at xxx.com (Harry Hunt)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 18:39:10 +1200
Subject: Sinister: graphic porn, free pimms and world peace
Message-ID: <20000325184448.23753.qmail@hotmail.com>

Today, the day before, lots of days previous, I've tried to shrink the
amount to which I care what people think.  About me, about the way I dress,
act, sound, etc.  Smell, that's different, smelling nice is dignity, not
pride.

See, I always thought of myself as *reasonably* radical, I try to provoke a
reaction, a pebble without a cause.  It's completely pointless and self
destructive, trying to please ANYONE.  Pleasing individuals for fun and
profit is different, but trying to be generally acceptable, or
un-noticeable, is a trait that irks me.

I may well not be making sense, but to some extent, I'm really talking to
myself, thinking aloud.

It's a social thing.  I try to look different, yet still I find myself
placing restrictions, and still avoiding conflict and prominence.  I want to
be seen, but coincidentally, I suppose.

There are so many things I think I enjoy, that I wouldn't think TWICE about
doing if I didn't have someone to SEE me DO it.

Actually, I don't know where this is going, but it's almost cogent, so I'll
release it. (said Noel Gallagher)

Love
Harry
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From thespinisterines at xxx.com  Sat Mar 25 19:26:49 2000
From: thespinisterines at xxx.com (Velocity Girl & Lleweth)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 19:26:49 GMT
Subject: Sinister: SPINISTERINES
Message-ID: <20000325192649.97263.qmail@hotmail.com>

After a long day at work, Laura Llew and Velocity Farewell are having a nice 
cup of strawberry tea while lounging on the patio of their house which is 
situated next to their art bookstore ...

Velocity: So Laura... I saw this guy yesterday... you know, the one with the 
floppy hair and the cords... he looked so nice! eventho' he doesn't look 
much like a mod and you know I love mod boys... still, he looked so 
cute...there was something about his eyes... I can't really define it... 
youthink that we still have a chance to escape our spinisterinity? *velocity 
sighs and passes the lemon cookies over to Laura...

Laura: Him??? Oh dearie. Don't you know that he's the boy who is addicted to 
the telly? Now, I know what you're going to say - that you saw him 
purchasing a canvas and you had hopes that he was artistic. I must warn you 
though,all he paints are shirtless portraits of Ben Stein. They practically 
cover that entire hovel that he calls an apartment. And I'm not just saying 
this because he's blonde and detests the Pixies.

Velocity: What? are you serious Laura? detests the Pixies... mmmm maybe he's 
a mod after all... haha...

Laura: A boy who doesn't like The Pixies really isn't a boy at all, Is he? 
Of course, those who do like the pixies are a bit 'cocky'. Why once I asked 
the village santa Richard Pushong what his favorite pixies' song was. He 
said "Mine's Gigantic". *Laura raises an eyebrow and takes a sip of 
Strawberry tea*

Vel: No, he didn't!! "mine's gigantic"? I wonder...
*smiles in a devious way raising her left eyebrow*

Laura: Talking about sizes and... you know. I find it disconcerting how B&S 
just 'pop up with this Dick Slapping thing. It seems 'hard to believe that 
it came from no where and I'm trying to see how I missed the signs.

Vel: "missed the signs"?? I mean, what did you expect? what kind of signs? 
Oh Laura... I've just thought of...oh never mind...*Vel starts laughing 
hysterically while Laura's trying
to remain serious and continue the conversation*

Laura: I hope it doesn't mean that the band changes.

Vel: I think the band had it with everyone... they just wanted to shock 
people... shocking is good... you know how many art movements used it as 
their battering ram? really, I can't see anything wrong at it...

Laura: Just now it's only Stuart David who's abandoned ship but with this 
change there's no telling who else will be next. Of course, we don't have to 
worry about Isobel leaving. Can you
see her getting off that big bum of hers?  Plus, it's obvious to me that 
Stuart Murdoch can not be my cabana boy. Things are off between us. No he 
will not touch me.....  He will not touch me in the car. He will not hit on 
me in the bar. He will not croon in the house and he SO will not go up my 
blouse.  He will not kiss me here or there,  he will not slap anything 
anywhere!*

Velocity: Hmm... at least Isobel has ambitions... at least she's going for 
it... not like us, sitting here, gossiping about everyone and everything, 
pretending we're a perverse Dr. Seuss and drinking "strawberry tea"... we're 
hopeless... we are... I know we have decided never to marry and remain the 
sinister-spinsters forever, but sometimes... it's so hard... I wish I had 
someone to tell me "don't leave the light on baby"... But for now, long live 
the spinisterines!




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From steven.kado at xxx.ca  Sat Mar 25 19:31:18 2000
From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 14:31:18 -0500
Subject: Sinister: things and things its spring its spring
References: <Pine.GSO.4.04.10003250734140.16211-100000@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <002a01bf9690$af7c9e20$9002a7d1@yesic.com>


> i'm tempted to give a semantic explanation for the oddness of the title.
> a superficial mental perusal of their discography and of song/album
> titles, in general, leads me to the conclusion that it's on account of it
> being a sentence.  most song titles seem to be noun phrases, if one
> accepts that titles like 'going nowhere fast' are nominal gerunds.  this
> is appropriate since the title names an object, albeit an abstract one.

i'm willing to agree with your entire analysis, esp the part about offering
an entire context instead of merely a name...that's clever says i.  however,
if the fact that the title of the new record is remarkable by virtue of it
being NOT a noun phrase what is to be made of 'if you're feeling sinsiter'
which is not merely the album around which their entire discography spins
(this is debatable but ...) but it is also a Compliment Phrase or CP.
essentially the 'If' at the front is modifying an already exiting sentence
 being 'you are feeling sinister') and making it conditional....it almost
begs one to say "well i'm not so fuck off."  i'm not sure where i'm going
with this but i just saw an opportunity to open my linguistics text so i
suppose that can't be a bad thing (as exams are coming up).

also....

hary hunt in his 'graphic porn, free pimms and world peace' magnum opus
stated that:

>act, sound, etc.  Smell, that's different, smelling nice is dignity, not
>pride.

yes yes yes....i view it as actively rude of someone to appear smelly and in
public.  they are going to get it.

also, for those new Torontonians to the list, they will be thrilled to know
that there is a thriving sinister commune here in toronto (well a community
maybe, commune is stretching it because we don't all live together and grow
our own food) and usually things are stage managed by DebS and Diana who run
things in this town.  check the jeepster meetup board for deets.

also, i'll be at the smiths night tonite wearing a lavender shirt and
dancing my legs down to the knees, or possibly just scowling and being
drunk....who knows.


steven



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From mattwardfhnn at xxx.com>  Sun Mar 26 09:41:30 2000
From: mattwardfhnn at xxx.com> (mattwardfhnn at xxx.com>)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 02:41:30 -0600
Subject: Sinister: 60s retro
In-Reply-To: <200003251846.SAA22438@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <B503295A.3C8%mattwardfhnn@hotmail.com>

I don't know about everybody else, but I've always described B&S as having a
sixties acoustic pop sound. The phrase, "Simon and Garfunkel" always seems
to come up as well, but the certainly seem to have a sort of old sound to
them, in my most humble opine...

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From rfadden at xxx.com  Sun Mar 26 13:03:17 2000
From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 04:03:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: drunk and laying outside on the lawn, robyn the loongirl...
Message-ID: <20000326120317.7415.qmail@web107.yahoomail.com>

um, yes, list, there is sadness afoot on the cdn west
coast,
But perhaps it is sadness you can relate to. perhaps not.
here is the story, i will make it descriptive like the
teachers say to do: i've got my looper/flaming lips ticket
in the pocket of my shiny grey pants, i've got my pink
t-shirt, i've got shiny hair. i've got the bus downtown.
all is well. i arrive at the commodore ballroom, recently
handed over in management to skanks and assholes who take
their jobs "seriously" and have decorated the once amazing
club in a not-quite-funky, but nice and non-offensive way
(fuck beige). and i check my coat. i sit down w/ friend and
drink. and stare at a pulsing screen on stage. then some
band comes on. they are called the beans. they are okay, i
enjoy in the way someone enjoys something that comes before
one of one's favourite things. 

then i wait a little more. 

then i move towards the stage. 

which is being set up for the flaming lips.

lights pulse, some guy sets up a ladder and does something
in the rafters. a pattern of sound comes up from the crowd,
and i listen to it, discover a number of patterns. without
headphones because they ran out of those. and without
looper t-shirt because they didn't bring t-shirts across
the boarder. then flaming lips come on. they throw confetti
on the crowd. it is like snow. but i am confused. i did not
read the signs out front. i am covered in confetti. looper
did not get past the boarder. or something. or whatever.
they are not playing. 

i know not everyone likes looper. i like looper. i have to
admit my sadness. and the sadness of others, sitting back
in the club, spending their looper t-shirt money on double
rye and cokes. i have a conversation with the bartender
who, like all good bartenders, understands my sadness, asks
my name and shakes my hand. it's what it's about. the
confetti is bound to become a soggy mess in my hair in the
shower; it's imbedded. i stay anyway. i feel like a kid,
all spoiled, and think i should enjoy myself, but it's
really much more like i just broke up mutually with a
boyfriend of two to three months. a sadness you know you'll
get over, but still, it could have been good, it could have
been a lot of things.

mm. i had to tell someone. you know it. i'll be better
soon. i'm no critic, i'm fully subjective. i didn't hate
it, i stayed, i kept the beat, i thought about music. then
i said, fuck. 

at least i smelled good, expensive perfume from the day's
excursions into posh stores. rah! 
and rah! glamour! my lipstick wore off fast...
o-kay, it's fine. i'm o----kay.
there was a gong. someone kept saying "smash!" But i kept
standing still with confetti on my shoulders, thinking
about snow days, playing supermariobros all day in 1988.

so that's the long way round to the end of this message,
but radio escapade is now playing smiths "last night i
dreamt...",
oh fuck, yeah,
it's like the music at a film's credits, except it's my
night. it's not my life though, getting down to brass
tacks, dick slaps, it's an old story.

sorry, i'm a sentimental fool. it'll all be fine in a few
days, it all comes back to you in the end... 
please, enjoy looper double for me if you see them. 
and, oooh, how can one not be happy when canada has a new
political party? the "small c conservatives"! kiss my ass,
politics, i laugh in your face.
but really, honestly, phew, it's life,
so love,
Robyn

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~~~
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From rfadden at xxx.com  Sun Mar 26 13:20:33 2000
From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 04:20:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: drunk, and laying outside on the lawn, really, there's an end to this...
Message-ID: <20000326122033.11201.qmail@web117.yahoomail.com>

um, yes, list, there is sadness afoot on the cdn west
coast,
But perhaps it is sadness you can relate to. perhaps not.
here is the story, i will make it descriptive like the
teachers say to do: i've got my looper/flaming lips ticket
in the pocket of my shiny grey pants, i've got my pink
t-shirt, i've got shiny hair. i've got the bus downtown.
all is well. i arrive at the commodore ballroom, recently
handed over in management to skanks and assholes who take
their jobs "seriously" and have decorated the once amazing
club in a not-quite-funky, but nice and non-offensive way
(fuck beige). and i check my coat. i sit down w/ friend and
drink. and stare at a pulsing screen on stage. then some
band comes on. they are called the beans. they are okay, i
enjoy in the way someone enjoys something that comes before
one of one's favourite things. 

then i wait a little more. 

then i move towards the stage. 

which is being set up for the flaming lips.

lights pulse, some guy sets up a ladder and does something
in the rafters. a pattern of sound comes up from the crowd,
and i listen to it, discover a number of patterns. without
headphones because they ran out of those. and without
looper t-shirt because they didn't bring t-shirts across
the boarder. then flaming lips come on. they throw confetti
on the crowd. it is like snow. but i am confused. i did not
read the signs out front. i am covered in confetti. looper
did not get past the border. or something. or whatever.
they are not playing. 

i know not everyone likes looper. i like looper. i have to
admit my sadness. and the sadness of others, sitting back
in the club, spending their looper t-shirt money on double
rye and cokes. i have a conversation with the bartender
who, like all good bartenders, understands my sadness, asks
my name and shakes my hand. it's what it's about. the
confetti is bound to become a soggy mess in my hair in the
shower; it's imbedded. i stay anyway. i feel like a kid,
all spoiled, and think i should enjoy myself, but it's
really much more like i just broke up mutually with a
boyfriend of two to three months. a sadness you know you'll
get over, but still, it could have been good, it could have
been a lot of things.

mm. i had to tell someone. you know it. i'll be better
soon. i'm no critic, i'm fully subjective. i didn't hate
it, i stayed, i kept the beat, i thought about music. then
i said, fuck. 

at least i smelled good, expensive perfume from the day's
excursions into posh stores. rah! 
and rah! glamour! my lipstick wore off fast...
o-kay, it's fine. i'm o----kay.
there was a gong. someone kept saying "smash!" But i kept
standing still with confetti on my shoulders, thinking
about snow days, playing supermariobros all day in 1988.

so that's the long way round to the end of this message,
but radio escapade is now playing smiths "last night i
dreamt...",
oh fuck, yeah,
it's like the music at a film's credits, except it's my
night. it's not my life though, getting down to brass
tacks, dick slaps, it's an old story.

sorry, i'm a sentimental fool. it'll all be fine in a few
days, it all comes back to you in the end... 
please, enjoy looper double for me if you see them. 
and, oooh, how can one not be happy when canada has a new
political party? the "small c conservatives"! kiss my ass,
politics, i laugh in your face.
but really, honestly, phew, it's life,
so love,
Robyn



=====
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~~~
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From pcxas at xxx.uk  Sun Mar 26 16:57:48 2000
From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 16:57:48 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: semantic on my dirty fridge
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Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.05.10003261638280.28479-100000@granby>



Dear all:


On how bizarre but captivating this peasant title is.I wrote with the
magnets on our fridge yesterday : 'Modern Life is Rubbish.Hand the DJ!',
instead of cleaning all the spots and stains up.I was to write 'Burn your
mobile' instead of 'hang the dj' but there were no enough letters
available. Graffitis make good titles, maybe fridge messages too.

A good title to a book,song,album or anything is a merit and artwork even
itself.In Spanish, John Irving's book is called ' Princes of Maine, Kings
of New England', much more poetic than 'The cider house rules'.I truly
enjoyed the book when I was thirteen, so I am not going to see that
film,because they would have managed to slaughter it as 'The End of the
Affair',sure.That is when my 'Great Expectations''obsession arises from.

This FYHYWLAP title is gorgeous, and it sounds like a Welsh
village,sure.Maybe it is a signal from Stu to tell fellow Torontonians
where they should set up their commune in case they finally organise one
and become all hippie.

But it is too long for my decreasing magnetic alphabet.


As result of my disordered checking and reading last few days, I really
have lost the plot on Reynolds' lines and teenage musical reviews, both
metaphorical and in real,hard life.Hope we can retake the discussion at
the Vic in Camber Sands, I will prepare my research carefully and carry my
notes!To fully grasp all the concepts my A-level Philosophy knowledge will
have to be dusted off,too.


Arantxa




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From RPushong at xxx.com  Sun Mar 26 17:02:57 2000
From: RPushong at xxx.com (RPushong at xxx.com)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 11:02:57 EST
Subject: Sinister: "peeling the skin back from my eyes...
Message-ID: <49.21b6ce4.260f8eb1@aol.com>

i felt suprised... 
that the time on the clock was the time...
i usually retired...
to the place where i cleared my head of you...
but just for today...i think i'll lie here and dream of you..."
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        yet again i forgot to put the clock forward...
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
i do it every year...i think i enjoy being out of sync with everyone else...
its how i feel most of the time anyway...

      ~~~~~~~~~~
      nme or mm...
      ~~~~~~~~~~
well neither...i always preferred sounds...
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      epic?!? monumental...
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
spacemen 3 ..."starship"...loop..."rocket usa"...god 
machine..."purity"...those are more apt descriptions of epic or 
monumental...i never ever thought of mbv as epic or monumental...mbv were 
very much pioneers of sound...they weren't afraid to experiment...there 
influence can be seen in bands as diverse as " mogwai " and   "death in 
vegas"...for me the most important thing they did was the weatherall remix of 
"soon"...that was in 1990...today it still sounds as fresh as it always 
did...they were very ahead of their time...

     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     i have done the unthinkable
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
in a mixture of boredom...and not being able to sleep...i have done the 
unthinkable...after many years of having my cds & vinyl in no apparent 
order...i've only gone and put everything in alphabetical order...i kind of 
perversely enjoyed it...i've always resisted doing it...but last night was a 
strange night...i was sat down  ( got a sore foot...i'm not too mobile at the 
moment) & i decided to change things...i moved furniture around...it was a 
slow process due to the sore foot...but slowly but surely things started to 
take shape...if only it was as simple to transform my life!...
     
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~                            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     and this weeks highest new entry ...& 1 week later...        and down to 
29...
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~                            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    i'm very much looking forward to the new b&s record...& kind of looking 
forward to seeing them on TOTP'S...because they will go scorching into the 
charts when we all go out and buy it on its day of release...and then the 
following week...they'll go scorching out of the charts...takes me back to 
the days of the smiths...

"if i show you the truth...will you show me the beauty
 if i show you the pain...will you show me the the joys
 if i show you the stars...will you show me yours
 if i show you the stars...will you show me yours
                  its the same all over
                  its the same all over
                  its the same all over..."
                                                  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                                                   god machine...purity
                                                  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     peace to all of you...over and out...
                                                       richard...i...p

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From oooon at xxx.com  Sun Mar 26 17:16:22 2000
From: oooon at xxx.com (oooon)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 23:16:22 +0700
Subject: Sinister: Free your mind and your ass will follow
Message-ID: <38DE37D6.39B2E0A9@cscoms.com>

hello everyone,

i've decided that i'll write a lot now.  since writing takes
such a bluddy long time to do.  it might help me accomplish
my objective for the year 2000...new york city!  ie. less time
outside spending stupidly.  i don't know yet what exactly
i want to do once i got there.  except kissing matthew.
the rest i will know when i see the city.  this week i'm tryin
to bookkeeping my spending,  to find out how to do it less.
only to find out how hard it is to remember particularly
what i've been doing in previous days.  which leads to
spending on vitamin pills to booze memory unit and music
to help my brain rest and worry less.  therefore, bookkeeping
doesn't work.

one morning i was dreaming that someone gave me
a big heavy bag of brown wholesome rice, saying that
eating this and you won't get cramp.  i thought why
would you gave me this?  only to suddenly feel that
my leg hurted a lot.  so i had to wake up and found
my right leg had a cramp.  this happened just when
i've decided that i'm going to gym and exercise.
to prepare my muscle and strenght for the far traveling.
as we're all well awared how much walking and other
body moving required when you go abroad.  it's such
a shame to drop so easily last time.   but then
this cramp happened to me.  so i have to think it over
if it's a kind of sign tellin me not to go to gym or what.

i miss TAG!  Where are Yoooooooooooooooooooooooou?
i bet Tag's been quiet trying to come up with what he
will do to sinister village.  sorry, in sinister village,
i mean.   oh sorry, that topic is all behind us now..  let's
move on to THE NEW ALBUM.  at first i didn't have any
question with the title.  until i found out that peasant is
not the same word as peacock.  speaking of cock, there're
a family of them at the beach i went to last week.  right
in front of the bungalow i stayed where my friends were
greeted by something we couldn't see.  at this moment
i'd like to take this opportunity to publicly think god
and all sacred spirits out there for protecting me from
being greeted.  THANK YOU!   i had a great time by the
way.  the beach was a lot of fun.  it's such a lovely place
to dance, under the full moon,  the sand is warm, the food
serves allnight, the half naked fire man spins fire,
the sound of waves mixed with music, if only they played
better music.  but still there's lots of Abba and nice beachy
stuff.

bluddy hell i can't believe it's sunday night again.
ugh
oon xxx





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From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com  Sun Mar 26 21:23:24 2000
From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 20:23:24 GMT
Subject: Sinister: The first pleasing thing is.....
Message-ID: <20000326202324.38705.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hello again, all you sinister people.

Well I have glandular fever. Which is nice. I've been sitting in my bed not 
having much energy to do anything much for the last week or so, and I'm 
feeling shit for it. Any sympathy is greatly appreciated. But my shitness 
has been greatly aleviated this weekend, for two reasons.

The first is to do with the clocks going forward, which I love. The fact 
that they *have* to go forward is a tad depressing (ie they had to go back 
in the first place), but it's so nice for it to be light at six o'clock, and 
well, I don't give a shit about my body-clock being screwed around with at 
the moment because I'm sleeping most of the time anyway. But nonetheless it 
pleased me, and what pleased me even more was that my computer had already 
put itself right when I'd turned it on this morning. How cool is that (okay, 
well not very, but I haven't been out of the house for the last week).

The second thing that pleased me I'll write in a seperate post, because that 
way people can choose to continue reading if they want, without the bad 
feeling of a having only read half a post. So I'll say bye bye and see you 
in a couple of minutes.
Love,

SamW.xx
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From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com  Sun Mar 26 22:04:44 2000
From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 21:04:44 GMT
Subject: Sinister: the second cool thing is.......
Message-ID: <20000326210444.50323.qmail@hotmail.com>

Dear all, hello again.

I'm back, and thank you to all of you who have decided to continue reading 
my rather self-indulgent dialogue of an ill person.

The second thing which has made me feel a bit better was a tv show I saw 
last night. When I couldn't sleep I turned on the tv to see the top ten of 
the most irriating songs ever, and despite every one being a valid entry, I 
enjoyed it very much. I enjoyed it because it made me smile, I enjoyed it 
because it gave me nostalgic glow (at 17? this is crazy!), but also I 
enjoyed the music. Yes that's right, I enjoyed the music. Now there's been 
some interesting discussion on this list recently about the pigeon-holing of 
some music, and although that's good sometimes when you're trying to find 
out generally what somebody else likes, it can also be dangerous. However, 
what really made me smile was the fact that I enjoyed these songs, and 
although I have a wide musical taste (B&S - Leftfield - Madonna (early 
stuff)), I was sure I was going to be snooty.

I wasn't snooty, and I suddenly realised in a cheesy Hollywood way, this is 
what music's all about: It's about making people feel something they 
wouldn't feel otherwise. Music really isn't that serious a business. Sure, 
sometimes, albums come out which are very serious and very fab (such as 
XTRMTR and others), but it doesn't have to be, and all these people who get 
terribly worked up about whether they have an original Tigermilk or whatever 
seem to be taking it all the wrong way. In the grand scheme of things it 
doesn't really matter, and people enjoy what they enjoy, and if that falls 
into a particular category, then fine. If it doesn't that's fine too. The 
basic point to this ramble is that what made me happy was the fact that I 
wasn't snobby about music, and that I liked it for what it was not what it 
stood for, and I reckon the more people start doing that, and taking Harry 
Hunt's advice of thinking twice before doing something that you wouldn't 
think twice about, perhaps everyone would get along a bit better. The point 
is that I think people should try to like what *they* like rather than what 
they think it would be cool for them to be *seen* to like, it you catch me.

Anyway, enough of that. I'd just like to apologise for the above, since I'm 
ill and thinking decidedly crookedly. If anyone agrees please say so, 
because it will give me validation.

Lots of love,

SamW.xx

P.S. I'd just like to say a "hello" to Nessa, who doesn't have a voice yet, 
though who has been rather nice to me.
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From JENOWL22 at xxx.com  Sun Mar 26 22:22:45 2000
From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 16:22:45 EST
Subject: Sinister: oi, you, ya dickslapping moke!
Message-ID: <92.2d6e110.260fd9a5@aol.com>

Hewwo,

Sorry, about the subject line, it's not very nice, I know. 

What have I been up to all week? Well, I've had my hair cut into a bob. My 
friend says it's the twee-est haircut ever. It's just a bob . It means I look 
ok in a beret though.

Oh, I was on the stairs in science, minding my own business, when a hard boy 
started pushing me about and hitting me. So I said "Go to hell, you bastard" 
(as I wasn't in a good mood, that's why I swore and all). So he started 
punching me, which wasn't fair because he's a boy and much much stronger than 
me, and I've never fought anyone before. 
Normally I would have ran away and cried, but instead I hooked him in the 
face so hard that I burst his nose, and punched him a couple more times and 
knocked him over. Then some other boy grabbed him and battered him moke-less 
for hitting a girl. Then I ran away and cried. But it's really good, because 
now everyone thinks I'm this psycho boxer kid because I beat up one of the 
hard kids, and nobody's come near me for ages. But I'm not really a psycho 
boxer kid, it was a one off, but you won't tell anyone, will you?

I got very drunk last night. I would tell you about it but I didn't know that 
a litre of cider could screw your memory up. It's quite scary.

I've got my mum to order me a new tee shirt, after my bus one got destroyed. 
I'm also giving her the money for the isobel and fox one since that is 
lovely, and some new badges after the hard kids nicked mine for a laugh. 

Isn't the cover of nalda said weird? Why is the rule of spelling supposed to 
be "i before e except after c"? W isn't a C.

Nick Dastoor said something like "Jen's picture is up, so you all know she is 
in fact not a 20 year old pervert" (not exact quote, so please don't sue me 
nick :)). Could everyone please excuse for the fact I have really fat legs, 
and a sad jumper. Also, i didn't know that climbing on the ancient ruins of 
Ephesus was all that dangerous. 'Ruins' is another word that doesn't fit the 
spelling rule.

I can't stop saying 'man' after every sentence. Man. It sounds really 
moke-ish, I really have to stop. 

The new album will be grate. 

'The Busy World of Richard Scarry' is really cool. It's about a worm, with a 
nice hat.

I'm going to go before I pass out.

Lots of hugs (especially to any one at all on sinister suffering from hug 
depravation)
Jen 
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From Pelican303 at xxx.com  Sun Mar 26 22:49:16 2000
From: Pelican303 at xxx.com (Pelican303 at xxx.com)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 16:49:16 EST
Subject: Sinister: Oh yes...Richard Scarry is lurvely....
Message-ID: <4.2091840.260fdfdc@aol.com>

Oh no...you've started the boy.  
The hours I have spent arguing "good" music vs. "fun" music...and the 
existance of those that are both and those that are neither...
But I figure I'll throw in my two cents...if you are easily bored...delete 
this now.

Okay...now that we've gotten those fools out of the way...
Obviously, there is no one purpose to music...or any art for that 
matter...but perhaps a line should be drawn between certain forms of faux-art 
and "true" art (not that I mean to say I know the meaning of art...but I 
think you all see what I mean...not being snotty just...okay okay...enough of 
that).  I am of the mind, that the role of art, above all else, is to 
transmit philosophy and deeper thought.  We are all little perfect spheres 
trapped in ourselves and surrounded by infinity...I believe it was Hume who 
spoke of a devil that trapped us in a room and fed us reality and we never 
realized that all we see are merely illusions of the devil.  I write music in 
an attempt to knock chips in that wall...to take my thoughts, bundle them up 
into little spider webs and toss them out, hoping some other perfect little 
sphere will grab onto them...praying for that connection, that hole in the 
wall where they can see me and I can see them.
    Music that isn't as serious as all that is not neccisarily 
inferior...just serves a different purpose.  that is certainly something 
inherently right about making people feel happy.  However, if the balance is 
upset and people are too obsessed with making themselves happy to think for a 
second and contemplate the deeper side of this life, well then something is 
wrong.  If everyone wants nothing but another group of hot boys they can 
cream over, then the philosopher and writer is ignored, and if the writer is 
ignored, then our collective sociatal faults fail to be recognized and our 
progress as a civilization that I believe, at its core, is good and not evil, 
ceases.
    Dance and be merry...but think as well.  We need merry makers, but do we 
not need critics, pessimists, cynics, philosophers, lovers, prophets, and 
poets as well?
    For some of us, music IS that serious...music IS art...music IS one of 
the only things that keeps us connected and sane.

    If you've made it this far, you are obviously a loser and need to get out 
more.

Love you,
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From gjanderson at xxx.co  Mon Mar 20 10:17:46 2000
From: gjanderson at xxx.co (GRAEME JOHN ANDERSON)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:17:46 -0500
Subject: Sinister: gazing alone though sex-painted windows
Message-ID: <001901bf9255$8dfff2e0$91e6e2d8@cartagena.cetcol.net.co>

Dear All

I've not written for a while, basically because I've had nothing to say and
well, that hasn't really changed, but I felt like I needed to write to let
you sinister people know about my (sad) little life.

First of all, it's good news to hear about the album finally coming out (old
news, I know). Unfortunately, being stuck down in this part of the world I
won't be able to get my hands on a copy until next July when I venture to
British soils once again, unless one of you kind souls could let me know the
distributer in Colombia and/or Mexico (I won't ask for a 'tape tree' copy as
that is strictly illegal). Still, I've got the comfort of the other 3 albums
to keep me entertained for the time being - put on Tigermilk for the first
time in ages and it still sounds so fresh after all those years. So in when
the album does come out I'll need to rely on your comments to get the idea
of the album.

The delgados also have a new album coming out this summer - yeah! Something
else I'll miss but the guys at Chemikal Underground may send me a copy -
which may arrive if the postman doesn't steal it.

Got a surprise this morning while I was sitting reading your mail. There is
a guy on the roof of my apartment building in camoflague gear, a telescope
and a radio looking rather mean. There has also been a Navy gunship stuck
out in the water for the last few days and a helicopter buzzing around most
of the weekend. At least I feel safe.

Buses. I love them. Especially here where there are no bus stops - you just
wave to stop them and shout to get off. The are often brightly coloured and
have music constantly playing...and they are cheap. Can't be too bad.

Well, I've had my say and will now go back to hiding out for the next 6
months or so when I've got nothing to say once again.

Oh, well done to Sam for saying what I feel about music

"this is what music's all about: It's about making people feel something
they wouldn't feel otherwise. "

I listen to what I like without worrying about fashion or what friends
think. Wouldn't it be great (sp?) if all of us could be like that, but
wishful thinking perhaps.

Hasta luego

Graeme

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From adam_dbt at xxx.com  Mon Mar 27 00:44:56 2000
From: adam_dbt at xxx.com (Adam Dobrodt)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 15:44:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Free your mind and your ass will follow
Message-ID: <20000326234456.29948.qmail@web1607.mail.yahoo.com>

hello all!

ooon spokethed:

"bluddy hell i can't believe it's sunday night again.
ugh"

and i sighed in agreement.

on the subject of the beach boys, today i went into a
pet sounds induced fury and ordered the pet sounds
sessions 4-disc box set from amazon.com.  what was
going through my mind? (probably just the thought of
listening to the vocal mixes by themselves).  

sadly, this purchase has pushed me into the realm of
the moneyless college student.  

the new album.
what to say?
i guess, i will say how it troubles me that everyone
is judging the album on the title/titles of the
songs/writers of the songs   alone, not the merit of
the tracks themselves.  oh well, sinisterians will be
sinisterians i suppose.  (huh?).

i personally can not wait till i hear the first bars
of judy is a dick slap and roll on the floor giggling
uncontrollably.  unless, of course, the first bars of
the song are of some unspeakable sadness, but i really
can't imagine that.

where did the cover art go?

things i'm listening to now:
marvin gaye, what's going on
beach boys, pet sounds
belle and sebastian, 3...6...9 seconds of light
mogwai, cody
autechre, lp5
aphex twin, richard d. james album
david bowie, LOW

other things too

adam a. decided to include the paragraph:

"yeah, beautiful days... i walked home from the bus
stop reading kerouac, and it was gorgeous, and when i
got home i found a package from the girl i was in love
with... she had sent me a birthday present, a cd and a
tape with a handmade booklet of colored paper. so i
sat out on the warm front porch and read the letter
and read kerouac and played guitar, and it was
lovely."

and we all, i'm sure, thanked him for doing so.

ahhh spring, then summer, how i enjoy thee after the
HELL of winter (okay, so i love winter, but only so
much of it)

off now to play the guitar, read kerouac and make
homemade tapes and booklets for loved ones.

love, hugs, and handkerchiefs,

adam d.





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From bbaron at xxx.edu  Mon Mar 27 00:53:27 2000
From: bbaron at xxx.edu (Bradley Kenneth Baron)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 17:53:27 -0600
Subject: Sinister: Lo! I am worthy of sanctuary!
References: <200003251846.SAA22438@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <38DEA2F7.9385247A@luthersem.edu>

Yes! Send me to the depths, my friends! Nay, I cannot call you such; for you do not befriend a rat such as myself -- you destroy it!

Ah, the hours so sickly toil! Yes, my windows are covered in shame, but still the light picks it way through this crease or that; mother?

Boil me in my own poisonous vomit; send me into sanctuary, away from your wonderful posts! I do not deserve to read such beauty, fellow fans of rock band Belle and Sebastian.

I must return to my shallow pain. Dull and throbbing, such is my lot!

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From jnikolaeff at xxx.au  Mon Mar 27 01:00:38 2000
From: jnikolaeff at xxx.au (Radiation Girl)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:30:38 +0930
Subject: Sinister: Watch out for that kangaroo with the gun, Charles.
Message-ID: <001401bf977f$7bec0790$6d6bd88f@edu33040.systems.sa.gov.au>

Greetings from the most dangerous place in the world - Adelaide, South
Australia.  According to the NRA (in the US) since the banning of semi- auto
& auto weapons the crooks are running rampant, and we are all too scared to
leave our homes.  Oh, I was so glad that someone has taken up our cause!
Yes, I have been too scared to leave my house ever since the gun laws came
into place - that's why I live in my office building, and never go anywhere
without a personal bodyguard.  But lately I have needed to go home to dust
as I have not been there for about a year, and that is why I have not
written to the list in so long.  I've been stuck there.  But I'm back
today - I forced myself to come in this morning to let you all know that the
NRA has taken up our cause, maybe they can come over here and take on the
crooks themselves?  Overthrow our government and little Johnnie Howard?
Create some more propaganda?

You know I can still walk home from town in the middle of the night with a
friend without fear of something happening?  Where else can you do that, I
ask?  I mean, yes it is getting worse, but not in that way.  If kids weren't
so wrapped up in american culture (gangs & rap & movies) they wouldn't be
running around with guns.  The other problem is the heroin addicts, and I
don't believe they MEAN to hurt anyone, but I don't have a solution to that
one.....

Honestly, you're more likely to die in a car accident or from old age, than
get shot or stabbed in your own home.

So Americans still see fit for propaganda in this day and age?  Isn't
propaganda the weapon of military regimes in third world countries and
communist nations?  Aren't you going backwards?  Maybe the NRA are losing so
much support this is the last resort.  They should just go visit a
playground or high school and get in the line of fire from some kid and die
quietly.

Am I being too harsh?  No.  Proving the point some population of americans
are stupid as fuck.

Now for something completely different:

B&S content - do you think there would be any chance that single would be
released in AUS?  Stupid question, I think, before I open my big mouth
again, can anyone recommend a safe site for ordering CD's?  That would be
much appreciated.

I've had my bitch for the day - thank's for listening.

Radiation Girl (juliya)

"I always cry in movies - doesn't take that much to move me."
- Career Girls

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From dchard at xxx.ca  Mon Mar 27 02:46:26 2000
From: dchard at xxx.ca (ipecac spice)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 21:46:26 -0400 (AST)
Subject: Sinister: "i tried to laugh about it hiding the tears in my eyes"
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.1000326212326.48840B-100000@is2.dal.ca>

YAY!!!!! i know it is soon to hear from me again but since i share all my
sorrows with you i felt i should share a triumph (of sorts). i have just
printed out a rough final draft of my entire thesis! this is a very joyous
occassion as this goddamn thing has been consuming my entire life for some
time now. it's multi-coloured b/c my black ink ran out and my discussion
is rather crappy, but at least it's done! hopefully i can have the final
draft done for tuesday. and, my results actually turned out to be very
interesting. i would tell you all but it would take up a lot of space and
bore the vast majority of you...

power to jenn for kicking some boy's ass! very impressive. 

and for the sorrow part of my post: i hate it when i get left out of
things. there are 3 of us girls doing our theses in the same lab and the
other 2 always do lab stuff without me. i've gotten used to that, but this
morning they went out to breakfast and didn't even invite me :( i always
get left out of things. luckily i am so tired lately that everything just
rolls off my back. no stress no offense. it's not bad. apart from being
completely useless after 9pm. 

i am boycotting the oscars tonight. i am bitter about the shafting of
fight club. that was such an amazing movie and it's being completely
ignored. i'm not a big fan of violence (despite what you might think from
my support of jenn's ass kicking and my love of this movie) but i don't
think that fight club should have been ignored just b/c it was bloody (i
don't see anyother reason for it to be ignored). it was clever,
entertaining, thought provoking...everything a movie should be. why am i
getting so bitter about a movie? do you think anyone ever has a right to
be bitter. one of my philo profs thinks that bitterness is anger that
lasts beyond a time where anyone else is willing to sympathize with it.
but how can you just let something go? if you have a right to be angry why
should you stop just b/c everyone is sick of hearing about it. plus to let
it go you often need to vent and when no one will listen to you anymore
how can you vent that festering anger? hmmm...i'm not really bitter about
the movie i'm bitter about the stupidity of people. today i opened the
paper to be greeted with an article about how feminism is bad b/c some
nutty women went around a church spraying anti-religious slogans. so now
all of feminism promotes intolerance of religion. ok, i'm starting to
ramble and i could go on for ages. just wanted to vent. don't know if i
can let my bitterness go yet...

-di 

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From elenita99 at xxx.com  Mon Mar 27 11:48:21 2000
From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita99)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:48:21 CEST
Subject: Sinister: Music and music
Message-ID: <20000327094821.4547.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hello all,
I hope you all had a good week-end. Mine was quite rich musically 
speaking...
- i FINALLY get money this week to get le LLPJ bex-set. 3..6..9 and more 
hours of hapiness this week-end.
- After been reading all your messages concerning Looper, i FINALLY get "Up 
a tree", and I like it. As my flatmate told me (with that look saying 
"you're really nuts"), it is "a bit of a concept, uuh?", but I really like 
it. Well, thanks you all for talking about it, you kind of decided me to get 
it, and that was a good idea.
- As my flatmate is not nuts (well, he thinks so..) he gets the "magnolia" 
soundtrack, which is not fantastic globally speaking, but I quite enjoyed 
the film theme, it's a song called "momentum" by a singer called Aimee 
something-i-cant'-remember...If you can listen to it, well do, that bass 
guitar theme is quite obsessing, actually.

Concerning that debate going on about "good" music, I agree with Rob when he 
says that it's linked to art...Some pieces of music make everybody agree, I 
mean everybody recognizing it's "good" because it can't be any other way, 
even if you don't like it. It's like eeeh, Mozart's Requiem, let's say. 
Quite hard to explain, actually, but if you agree to say that some forms of 
art (wherever discipline, painting, music, writing, etc...) reach a common 
agreement because of their quality, universality or whichever word you use, 
you'll understand what i'm saying. If I'm not really clear please let me 
know, i'll try to do better next time!

Hope you'll all have a nice Monday (hard task)
Love
Elena
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From timothy at xxx.net  Mon Mar 27 11:46:21 2000
From: timothy at xxx.net (Scampi)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:46:21 +0100
Subject: Sinister: why do they call it the blues - at least the pinks would sound cheerful.
Message-ID: <001c01bf97d9$b4b63280$2a00010a@hostb42.internal.zone>

hi babes,

I bored.  I've had a boring weekend, and its monday morning, back at work,
and work is boring.  But why is life so dull?  I have come to the conclusion
that it is where I live - in a stereotypical middle england 'oh how quaint'
country village, where all events have to be authorised by the womens
institute mafia, and the lord supreme and ultimate power is the vicar.  Mind
you, we now have a female vicar, and that caused a few ripples in the
over-sixties group, I can tell you.  Surely there most be something to grab
my attention.  I know, I'll look in the "something for the weekend' page of
the village magazine - 1, the over-sixties group are having a 'suprise'
coach trip (a coach trip to a suprise location, which really isn't a suprise
because they have to tell people where they are going just incase someone
becomes ill).  2, the scouts and guides are having a car-boot sale (although
it isn't really a car-boot sale because these are frowned upon by the local
council due to the huge numbers of trade dealers avoiding VAT and stolen
goods, and the scouts and guides don't have a carpark anyway).  3,  Charity
football match on the playing field - village gents vs. village ladies.  4,
The thrice weekly bus service to bigtown calls at the village again on
saturday morning.  Perhaps I am being unfairly sceptical about the village,
my home, because I am sure it is a very pleasent place to live.  Its just a
little too quiet...actually I better not say that otherwise they might turn
it into an M1 bypass route.

Anyway, coming round to a more musical theme, has anyone come across
sodastream (they have an EP out at the moment called practical footwear),
and don't they sound freakishly like belle and sebastian?  The first time I
heard them, I thought they were one and the same, except for the underlying
double bass in all sodastream songs.  very scary.

I think I will go and talk to the goldfish.

love and kisses,
scampi.x


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From pinefox at xxx.com  Mon Mar 27 15:00:37 2000
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:00:37 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Pegasus realizes they're playing his tune
Message-ID: <20000327140037.11620.qmail@hotmail.com>


Greenflies, bluebottles, milk cartons,

I'm not totally sure about this, but I have a feeling I spent the last five 
days in a cupboard playing 240 folk songs on a three-string guitar. It's 
with fascination, therefore, that I return to find such a plethora of rich 
material.

As stasis and the predictable have long been my domestos, I mean, domain, a 
word on the same old subject as last week. People have been foreswearing the 
inkies debate like it contained nicotine, or like there was no tomorrow: 
which is probably wise, cos one day it just won't come. Still:

About those end-of-year lists: they usually had, doubtless still (and more 
than ever) have, the capacity to alienate and inflame ('which is what rock 
writing is all about!', says someone off-screen - but no, I'm not sure); and 
few can have found it easy to agree with more than half of the 50 or so LPs 
named. (One tired, yawning example. Costello made at least four major 
records in the 90s; I'm not sure that any of them made the weekly polls.) 
BUT to get specific. Nick D (who despite forementioned foreswearing is the 
coollest smoker in town, no danger) gives the poll-toppers from NME and MM 
1987-9 and reckons the NME's choices now look better, MM's verging on the 
bizarre. Naturally I can't agree - which is just to say that my preferences 
happen to be the other way round. I've racked my brains to think of a 1989 
LP I prefer to Disintegration, but don't think I can quite do it. It was 
indeed bizarre to see it top that poll; but it still cheers me up to think 
of it.

That's just to come down to arbitraryish personal tastes - on which debates 
like this may always be partially founded anyway. But I also think Steady 
Mike's right: the preposterousness and daftness had their function; what was 
bad and what was good about MM were cheek-by-jowl, if not even identical. He 
makes me reflect on one other thing about Reynolds and Roberts - probably my 
last comment on this, honest: *they described music so that it didn't matter 
whether you'd heard it or not*. Indeed, hearing it could be a handicap, for 
their descriptions were so self-serving, so off the wall or up a gumtree, 
that the actual record might only get in the way of their fantastic verbal 
concoctions, the sheer fictions they loosely based from what they claimed to 
have heard. I still haven't heard most of the records they wrote about back 
then, but can still remember half of what they said, which may in some cases 
have been more interesting than the sound of the records anyway. Not always 
the best criterion for writing about music, to be sure, but there is, or 
was, a place for it, and it did save you a lot of money you'd otherwise have 
had to spend on hearing the dull discs themselves.

I must say it was a shock to see Steady Mike back on sinister. Since I waved 
him off as he took the boat to work in an Alaskan pipeline back in, I think, 
January (he'd been inspired by rereading Everett True on Neil Young's 
'Someday', in a MM review from autumn 1989. Nothing could dissuade him), 
there's been neither hide nor seek, I mean hair, of him in evidence. And 
suddenly, ever the master of the coup de tayatrer, he reveals in the most 
melodramatic way possible that he's back in town (no mention of the 
pipeline. I guess things didn't work out) and having barmy adventures.

It's odd, cos the other day I had a slightly similar experience to his. I 
was coming round the bend on a train to Kansas City the other day (this is 
in Northamptonshire, by the way - they moved it in 1988, responding to 
demand) when I was set upon by a short, stocky figure with a puggish pout 
who turned out to be former Old Trafford keeper Chris Turner. Once he'd 
overpowered me and knocked me out I woke to find myself in a shuddering, 
rattling freight car, first used in 'Starlight Express' in 1985. As I raised 
my head I realized I was confronted by the decrepit forms of the original 
line-up of Fascinating Aida - though now I come to think of it it could even 
have been the Mint Juleps, whichever you think most plausible. As I spoke I 
realized the erstwhile custodian had knocked out some of my teeth. Still, I 
managed to get out the obvious question. 'You - you've reformed?' 'No!', 
they laughed in unison (it later emerged that they'd been persuaded to 
affiliate by a  shop steward in Kettering, who'd assured them of the 
benefits of the 2000 insurance deal and given them each a key ring), 'We're 
the same corrupt, louche, decadent, dissolute, promiscuous, sponging drunks 
we've always been'.



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From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk  Mon Mar 27 15:02:27 2000
From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:02:27 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: StRaNgeLy BeAuTiFuL...
Message-ID: <20000327140227.20930.qmail@web3003.mail.yahoo.com>

Hiya beautiful ones...
Sitting in my tidied up living room - I tidied up
yesterday - wow!! you'd know this is some sort of a
big event if you had been here... :)
Anyway...
W
    E 
        A
            T
                H
                     E
                          R
                               REPORT...
Oh the weather today is just amazing!!! I had to tell
you that cuz I know many of you live in places where
it's raining a lot and it's grey and cloudy... and I
wanted to bring some sun here... some sun and 
                         sea breeze
and second, cuz I'm in such a good mood I had to tell
you... this is not something common for me...
Well I came back home and wore my old cords and my B&S
bus tee shirt - btw the colours started to faint; is
that happening to all of you or is it just my washing
machine? - and rushed to the 
                        BeAcH
with Spooky... 'twas so nice; the perfect day... a day
straight out of Spring's Heart...
So...I went to the beach and saw some american guys in
their swimming suits playing beach volley...
Comment... don't you just hate guys in these tight
swimming suits? I mean, regardless if they are fit or
not; it's still so bad taste!!
As I was approaching one of them stopped playing and
stared at me... I had to let Spooky free to run and
she - darn dog - run towards that guy... the traitor!
If you are wondering what americans are doing here; I
live in a city that is a harbour so...
After shouting a lot to her, to the guys' amusement,
she came back to me and we walked towards the opposite
direction... I sat down on the sand and put out my
jacket and stayed with the tee... 
first time I exposed my pale arms and the tee to the
sun... it felt so good... then I started to dig in the
sand with Spooky and we managed to open a big hole...
I was putting sand back and she, in a fury, opened it
again...
disgusting note... she brought some dead fish and put
them in the hole and I had to touch them *YAK!* to
throw them back into the sea again... and she brought
a dead crabs, dried by the sun to me... and as I took
it to throw it back it opened a little hole in my
finger and started to bleed... well not that much...
I couldn't but think of Zoe and Richard all the time;
and wished they were there with me... you see when
they came here it was winter and so cold... we walked
at the beach and everything but it was so cold and
windy...
and I couldn't help thinking of all of you and how
much I wished you were there laughing and playing on
the sand... and I could knock out George Henry on the
sand by the most amazing UpperCut ever!! yer..
Wow! I can't believe it I'm so happy!!
Plus, I'm listening to the most incredible song
ever...
it's "the sun a small star" by the Servants...
".... I give you everything that's not much...."
talking about music... I forgot to fold my hands while
walking at the beach... I think I looked like a
peasant.... mmmm... but I do not care!!
and... I was talking to someone today who made me
smile a lot... 
one thing I've got to say:
GrAnNyS aRe tHe CooLesT... not to mention the 
                             TwEe-EsT.. yer...
OK, I'm leaving now... sorry for ranting on that much!
but I feel so happy! I've always been quiet when
happy... this is the 1st time I have an outburst of
joy.... 
and happiness... it's like chocolate... you like it
that much you have to keep it in your mouth and let it
melt in there, tasting it blissfully, so the joy of
eating it lasts longer...
What am I talking about..??
bye everyone...
*hugs*
Vel

PS: I loved it that Jen kicked that boy.. Grrrrr...
PpS:Has anyone of you heard of the Relationships? I
heard some of their stuff and really really liked
them!




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From jp.champagne at xxx.ca  Mon Mar 27 17:09:22 2000
From: jp.champagne at xxx.ca (Jean-Pierre Champagne)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:09:22 -0500
Subject: Sinister: I'm nowhere near a threeway
Message-ID: <38DF8794.3DBB0F91@utoronto.ca>

Hi all,

Off topic: Just picked up the latest Jim O'Rourke HWTAT and it's simply
amazing.  So how about Eureka - is it good stuff?  I need the inside
track if I'm going to give up eating for a few days in order to afford
the disc.

By the way: I've classically really dislike his stuff - I bought
Terminal Pharmacy and it's just useless.  Gastr Del Sol's Crookt... is
pretty much the same.  I also have the last Gastr, Camoufleur, and it's
definitely a step up.

Cheers,
JPMFC



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From chris.jones at xxx.uk  Mon Mar 27 21:42:23 2000
From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones)
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2000 20:42:23 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Appearance....
Message-ID: <200003272049.VAA09051@smtp.saqnet.co.uk>

As if by magic, my face has appeared on the photo board. I wasn't going to
put it there because I thought it spoilt half the "mystique" of such a
list, but then I thought "Awww, what the hell" (only not in American
accent).
So, if for any reason (and I can't actually think of one myself....no....I
really can't) you want to look at a piccy of me, I'm there.

Chris Jones.
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From vincewong at xxx.com  Mon Mar 27 21:55:21 2000
From: vincewong at xxx.com (vincent wong)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:55:21 -0500
Subject: Sinister: 60s retro
In-Reply-To: <B503295A.3C8%mattwardfhnn@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <B50534E8.ED5%vincewong@mac.com>

I would say more like Donovan, as apposed to simon and garfunkel, though I
do sort of agree with a bit of the sound.

vince
vincentwong.8m.com 

on 3/26/00 3:41 AM, mattwardfhnn at hotmail.com at mattwardfhnn at hotmail.com
wrote:

> I don't know about everybody else, but I've always described B&S as having a
> sixties acoustic pop sound. The phrase, "Simon and Garfunkel" always seems
> to come up as well, but the certainly seem to have a sort of old sound to
> them, in my most humble opine...

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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com  Mon Mar 27 22:05:42 2000
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:05:42 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Bowlie on TV?
Message-ID: <200003271605_MC2-9ED4-E626@compuserve.com>

Hi All (especially anyone with digital TV)

This from the ATP list:

        Just thought you lucky bastards with digital would wanna know that
they're
        showing highlights of Bowlie on BBC Choice tonight/tomorrow morning
at 1 or
        1:30....could be either. So, 0130BST on 28/03/00.

Can anyone please confirm if this is true? because if so I need to start
ringing round anyone I know who might have BBC Choice.

Thanks,


David Moore
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From dbgeraghty at xxx.com  Mon Mar 27 23:07:40 2000
From: dbgeraghty at xxx.com (David Geraghty)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:07:40 +0100
Subject: Sinister: that dumb idea i had....
References: <49.21b6ce4.260f8eb1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <008001bf9838$df9f1ac0$1d926fd4@dbgeraghty>

....about the band list thing?

well, it seems people actually thought it was ok.

but, more people! needed! now! go back and read. and join! destroy a B&S
song! in the name of rampant egotism!


anyway, i heard, from a fairly reliable source* that B&S will be
westcoasting it in june. thats the america i mean. obviously this is an evil
rumour, and irrelevent to many people here, myself included. but whats hot
gossip if you can't spread it eh? so, yes, i'll raise hopes. and i'll hope
yr all too god darned twee to do anything about it if i am WRONG.

well, with the B&S content done, i'll also tell all dublin sinisterines that
this friday at eamon dorans there is a POP spectacular featuring the dudley
corporation (featuring joss of this fair parish) and the connect 4
orchestra..........blatant list abuse perhaps, but if you aren't there,
then...well, we'll have a good time without you thank you very much.......;)
it's 8pm, btw. and only something like £3 or maybe £4. either way, a
BARGAIN.

kindest regards,
david










*if they weren't drunk. which they may have been.



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From secretmysterydate at xxx.com  Mon Mar 27 23:26:42 2000
From: secretmysterydate at xxx.com (brand new shoes)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 17:26:42 EST
Subject: Sinister: short whine...
Message-ID: <20000327222642.74530.qmail@hotmail.com>

				grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
				rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
				rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

DOES ANYONE  									____________
ELSE THINK 									|			|
  THAT IT IS 									|	DUMB	|
   RIDICULOUS 									|  TICKET	|
       TO GET A 								|	!!!		|
				PARKING TICKET 	========>		|			|
	WHEN YOU HAVE								|	$40$	|
   YOUR BLINKERS								|			|
     ON AND YOU 								-------------
    STOP IN TO
PICK SOMEONE
UP FOR LIKE
3 MINUTES?!!!!
													 I DO.

****sigh****
okay, that's all the complaining for now.
i got two big plastic horses today which makes me happy.
now i just have to sand them down a little to get the paint off
yay!
hmmm.
okay, a question that i have that i thought i sent out yesterday (but maybe 
i just quit before sending it, who knows) is:
	I reference to describing b+s to people that have never heard it, what do 
people think about a hybrid of Donovan and the Velvet Underground? I know it 
isn't complete, they obviously have more parents than that, but do you think 
it works?
i don't know
that's all,
a kinda dumb question i guess, but it's what i usually say and i don't want 
to be a fool forever.
love,
sam
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From RythSoul at xxx.com  Tue Mar 28 00:57:11 2000
From: RythSoul at xxx.com (RythSoul at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:57:11 EST
Subject: Sinister: practically invisible
Message-ID: <10.1aa99cd.26114f57@aol.com>

To my surprise, the first day back from my spring break wasn't half as bad as 
I had expected. And i must admit, i looked devilishly cute in my new dress, 
although i'm sure nobody noticed, after all, I have been told that i am 
practically invisible. 

I also learned recently that I have been labeled the "goth chick" by a boy in 
my photography class. i found this incredibly disturbing. it is true that i 
have a fondness for the color black, but i am hardly goth. black is slimming, 
and classy...and the cape hides my hips! haha. oh well, it's good for a laugh 
i suppose

i told my friend who introduced me to b&s about the new single, and he was 
rolling with laughter. he then told me what an arab strap was... that's 
right, i didn't know, and now that i do..i have to say i'm a little 
disturbed. not really, it's just fun to say.

the queasiness is setting in as prom is approaching and that is ALL anyone is 
talking about. i just cannot conceive spending hundreds of dollars on one 
night of sitting around watching people practically having sex on the dance 
floor. even though the more i think about that part, the more i reconsider my 
decision not to go. tee hee. after all, that's the best part. then you get to 
walk around telling all of the little skanks they're going to hell..the looks 
on their faces are priceless.

i can't wait for june when i can finally leave the hell that has been high 
school. looking around at all of the roxy/quicksilver clones makes me sick to 
my stomach. and they all look at me like i'm the strange one. just because 
i'm not parading around in skin tight pants and half a shirt in the rain. 
college better be different, otherwise, well...i don't know what i'll 
do...just be miserable i guess.

please tell me it gets better-
lissa
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From vilkas at xxx.com  Tue Mar 28 00:55:49 2000
From: vilkas at xxx.com (Vilkas D'Angelo-Horvath)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:55:49 -0400
Subject: Sinister: Dumb Question about Baltimore Looper + a wee bit more.
Message-ID: <200003280050.TAA32317@granger.mail.mindspring.net>

Ok, this is my last resort. I've hunted online. I've hunted offline. I can't
find anything about the tickets for the Shriver Auditorium in Baltimore,
which is where The Flaming Lips and whats that band...ahhhh...oh it's Looper
are playing. >:).  Who knows something? I'm not asking this cold, I can't
freakin' find anything. 
    Again, sorry if this post if uncool or off list rules.  I still love you
all.  Ok, I'll ask a question that someone asked before:  Who's list crush
am I? Mwah!

Sugar-Kisses, Vilkas

P.S. I just got a show in a hip place to show my large format photographs of
China. I'm gonna play Belle & Sebacious at my reception. This may sound evil
to some, but I may put Tigermilk and The Man Who in the cd changer and let
it go from there. I have some music theory to discuss on this selection. Not
now tho'... I must explain my theory better, so now is definitely not the
time as i am feeling loopy. more sugar-kisses, vilkas

P.P.S. Any Sinesterians going to any east coast u.s. Cure shows? , lots more
sugar kisses, vilkas  
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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Tue Mar 28 04:02:35 2000
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 04:02:35 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Fold your hands child, you play late night poker like a peasant
Message-ID: <200003280303.EAA21371@missprint.org>

hello,

Just come back to my home in Milton Keynes from University and my parents 
are away for holiday which means I've the whole house to myself, which is 
quite cool as I can sing "She's losing it" ultra loud without them 
thinking that I'm losing it.

Read vel's e-mail earlier unfortunately weather isn't so good here at 
MK.. it was quite funny earlier I was driving and hailstorm just started 
as the car stereo decided to play "Summertime" by the Sundays... the 
car stereo loves doing that, I got pulled over by police last time just 
as "Killer Cars" by Radiohead was on.

About good music and that.. I don't really know, I think I hold a more 
diplomatic view that good music must be able to show that a lot of 
effort and talent has been put into it, but it is not a crime to listen 
to bad music that makes you happy... I think the collection of beeping 
noises aka dance music is terrible but then I still hum along to it when 
I'm bored.  Heck I like bad music but so what I also listen to Belle and 
Sebastian who are wicked and they make me happy and sad and mad and keep 
me sane.

One of my friends is really uptight about all these things, he 
would hate a "townie" to guts even if that guy hasn't done anything 
wrong.. but I actually quite admire townies in a way that they can 
go to a really bad nightclub and has a good time, which surely shows 
great tolerance... but I don't like those who thinks that they have 
to wear Ben Sherman shirts to stay alive.

But I hate some of the metal geezers who take the piss out of that, 
whilst wearing their full leather gear at midsummer 35 degrees C.. oh 
the ironies of live.

Cheers
Ken
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Drying up the conversation, you'd be the one who cannot talk; all your insides 
fall to pieces, you'd just sit there wishing you could still make love
- Radiohead








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From Paulfie at xxx.uk  Tue Mar 28 12:03:08 2000
From: Paulfie at xxx.uk (Paul Field)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 12:03:08 +0100
Subject: Sinister: He's a caffeine addict...
Message-ID: <C27D68F81000D411B7570050DADE637A0BC9E4@OASIS_NT07>

Hello all. It has been a rather long time since I wrote here. Hmm. I guess I
am a little like a recurring nightmare that you think you have finally seen
the back of, and then suddenly once again rears it's ugly head. 

I have been drinking far too much coffee today...it is simply a necessity to
prevent bruising to my head, which would otherwise be inevitable as my eyes
close and my head falls forward to WHACK on the desk. 

The problem is...I think I may have over-compensated. I can feel my heart
banging violently into my chest from the inside...it feels like I have
swallowed Keith Moon and he's banging away in there. And no, I am not
sexually aroused...not even by the thought of swallowing Keith Moon...

I think I need to exercise...work off some of this excess energy. I think I
should probably go for a 78 mile run. Or I could jump out of the window...I
suppose that that is always a solution...no, I am not feeling depressed! My
feet are ultra-bouncy is all! I could jump out of the window and bounce
along the streets...bouncing up to 40ft high, like a human spacehopper.
People in their offices would be looking out of their windows purely
gob-smacked...I can see the headlines in todays evening standard..."Ginger
human space hopper causes panic in the streets of London" ... but who will
hang the DJ (dickslap Judy)? 

By the way, by mentioning Keith Moon do I have to send a picture of my arse
to the body parts page? Where's that wide angle lense? 

Finally, as I eavesdropped on Laura and Velocity whiling away their time
over a cup of strawberry tea, I heard this come from Laura's lips...

A boy who doesn't like The Pixies really isn't a boy at all, Is he? 

No Laura. He is a *man*!!! 

Then, a few days later, in a mood of merriment, our dear Velocity murmured

		and happiness... it's like chocolate... you like it that
much you have to keep it in your mouth and let it melt in there, tasting it
blissfully, so the joy of eating it lasts longer...
Which could only leave me wondering whether it was actually chocolate she
was talking about. What? It could have been shortbread, you filthy minded
guttersnipes.  
On that note I think I should depart...

Tatty-bye
Paul.  

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From untitled at xxx.com  Tue Mar 28 14:29:30 2000
From: untitled at xxx.com (Rob Foster)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 08:29:30 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Bloshy great yarblockos to thee and thine
Message-ID: <200003280829_MC2-9EE4-B5B8@compuserve.com>

How embarrissing, I just sent this to Honeys computer which sent back a
message saying how silly I was, still, it picked me up and gave me a lolly,
so I can't complain.  Here's what I MEANT to send to you 'orrible lot:

I'm sorry to bring this back up again but I have some very interesting
information.  For the uninitaited, about a month ago we were talking about
Mr M shouting at Mr G in LLPJ, but no one could find it - until now.

Yes that's right, I think I've found it.  Before you rush to your record
players and pin back a good ear I think I should tell you what you should
be looking for.  Imagine someone shouting from a long way away, but their
voice is gruff.  Now, the words to me sound like 'turn it up Chris', the
place in the sone is, wait for it, Five munuets seven seconds.  HOLD ON,
there is also some shouting at five minuets ten seconds.

Right, go forth and listen

Oh, to Heatherxo, sorry, I got you mixed up with someone called Jessica who
also put 'xoxo's' at the end of her name :)

Yours

Mr Foster
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From julesmarkham at xxx.net  Tue Mar 28 14:42:30 2000
From: julesmarkham at xxx.net (julesmarkham)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:42:30 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Re: black fox fable
Message-ID: <003e01bf98bb$8ce6b760$LocalHost@Georgetesco.net>

hi there sinister folk,
I thought I'd send you another little fable of mine, I hope you like it.
It's about...hope, and how the black fox deals with fear.

The Black fox hung down her head. The void inside her chest where her heart
once rested ached. She glared up at the sky, as if she could frighten it
away. She shook her head furiously and growled at herself. She dug her claws
into the ground, ripping gouges into the earth until finally, her anger
abated, she flung herself to the ground.
~Am I asking too much to be treated with a little kindness? she whispered to
herself, to the silence around her.
~Is there one single creature alive that would never deceive me or abandon
me or cause me harm? A single, solitary individual I can trust without
doubt?
She lay in silence for a long time, thinking of nothing. Finally she got to
her feet and started walking. She walked to the city limits and on into the
country. She walked with no direction or destination, she just walked. She
felt nothing, hunger and exhaustion were of no importance to her. She walked
to the sunset and did not stop. She walked through the night, past towns and
rivers. She walked through the next day, and the night that followed it. She
never stopped, never slept, never ate, just walked.
The air changed from city smog to salty spray and she did not notice, the
ground beneath her feet changed from tarmac to grassy dunes and she did not
notice. She stopped when the grass and sand became a rough pebbled beach,
and stared out to sea. The wind was cold, the sky clouded. The fox closed
her eyes and she could see herself walking into the sea along the sea bed,
clambering over submerged rocks and valleys, the desire to walk stronger
than gravity, than science. She opened her eyes and walked into the sea.
The water was freezing, but she did not turn back, but swam on, pulled back
and forth by the currents and riptides. The cold seeped into her bones, but
she did not stop, but kept moving until she felt stone beneath her feet. She

pulled herself out of the surf and onto the sharp rocks.Shivering and
exhausted, she lay down. She looked back, in the distance she could see the
mainland. The tide was turning, and the waves were dragging back to the
shore. She looked down into the water, knowing that the rocks would soon be
submerged by the incoming tide. A pointed black face looked back at her.
She stared at the reflection.
~What's your name, she whispered shakily to the flickering likeness. The one
solitary individual who would never deceive her or abandon her, who she
could have absolute trust in.
The fox smiled at her reflection, who smiled wearily in return.
~I think I'd forgotten about you, she said softly.
The image seemed to wink at her, then disappeared into the foam. The fox
nodded to herself as the surf lapped at her feet.
She dived into the sea and followed her reflection back to the shore

I hope you like it, julesx
PS Colin M is a groovy groovy bloke (...for an old fogey!!)


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From Coldcolours at xxx.com  Tue Mar 28 15:36:41 2000
From: Coldcolours at xxx.com (Coldcolours at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:36:41 EST
Subject: Sinister: getting to knowwww you...
Message-ID: <47.27574df.26121d79@aol.com>

good morning, sweet sinisters!

    As I sat here, drinking that first cup of coffee (which only tastes like 
washing up if I worry that it will) and quietly despising my cat, I decided I 
would say hello for the first time. I've been unreasonably nervous about it, 
as if I were orating to a stadium full of restless Belle and Sebastian fans, 
but that's silly. You all seem like wonderful and supportive people.
    So hello! My name is Joanna. Pleased to meet you.
    A lovely boy once told me, "if you want to make friends with someone, 
tell them the second most interesting thing you know." So here is the 2nd 
most interesting thing I know today:
    On Neptune, the pressure in the atmosphere and on the surface of the 
planet are so high that the carbon is formed into diamonds, which are swept 
into the air and rain back down. Diamond hailstorms are actually quite common 
there...the image they used in Discover magazine was "diamonds raining 
through honey," because the atmosphere is so thick and gooey. I'll have to 
make a stopover there the next time I'm hitchiking through the galaxy :).
    I'm so glad I found this list...I was desperate enough to meet B+S fans 
that I had begun to whistle BWTAS and JAHDOH loudly in public places, hoping 
that someone would recognize them and introduce themselves. The list method 
is more fun and much less obnoxious. 
     I first fell in love with B+S when I read the story on the inside cover 
of Tigermilk. It was as if their happiness at finding each other was somehow 
my own, and even if their music had been terrible (which it is certainly 
not!) I would have loved them just for telling me their story. 
    Speaking of stories, Robert Smith (that can't be your real name) wrote:
>>I hope you liked [my story] and didn't think it too self induldgent.
Not self indulgent at all! It was wonderful, I'm looking forward to the next 
one. 
    That's about all I have to say this time, I don't want to tyrannize your 
attention span any longer. Thank you for listening! 
np: "sometimes" by Spacemen 3
    Till next time,
Joanna
PS. What's up with the tape tree? Haven't heard anything from you yet. 

"If songs were lines in our conversation, the situation would be just 
fine."--Nick Drake
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From splag at xxx.net  Tue Mar 28 16:13:10 2000
From: splag at xxx.net (Scott Plagenhoef)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:13:10 -0600
Subject: Sinister: Ol=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?=: For North Americans
Message-ID: <200003281511.QAA20614@missprint.org>

>From Matador records:

"The new BELLE & SEBASTIAN album, 'Fold Your Hands Child, You
Walk Like A Peasant' (OLE 429-1,2) is coming out on Matador
in North America on the 6th of June.
"The band will be visiting the West Coast for the first time
in early June, with additional North American dates planned
for the autumn. There will be a pre-album single in June
consisting of 'Legal Man' backed with 'Judy Is A Dick Slap'
and 'Winter Wooskie.'"


So, it is the highly tentative, skeletal tour schedule that is of most
interest. Not sure on which formats Matador is releasing the single,
although the lack of catalog #'s may mean that they haven't even hammered
out exact details yet themselves.

bye.
scott.

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From julesmarkham at xxx.net  Fri Mar 24 08:47:20 2000
From: julesmarkham at xxx.net (julesmarkham)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:47:20 -0000
Subject: Sinister: a black fox fable
Message-ID: <000601bf9572$ee46f020$a24e8cd4@Georgetesco.net>

hi there sinisterino's
here it is, as promised, a little fable.

Jubilee didnt know how the griffin got into the flat. She guessed it must
have come down the chimney as it was far too big to get in through the cat
flap.
She had been out walking with the black fox, admiring the frost patterns on
the pavement and talking about nothing in particular. They had returned home
to find the sofa shredded, the walls clawed and Jubilees cat hiding in the
laundry basket.
The griffin was sprawled underneath the kitchen table, pecking at the
linoleum with it's sharp eagle beak. It was about the size of an Alaskan,
and covered in soot and fluff. It made an angry rattling sound as Jubilee
came into the kitchen.
-What is that doing here, she muttered, kicking off her shoes.
The fox circled the beast cautiously. It snapped at her and she yelped and
jumped onto the draining board.
~I think it's eating the floor, she offered, crawling into the sink and
curling up into a tight little ball.
Jubilee picked up the broken crockery and fallen chairs and surveyed the
damage in the living room. She wondered if house insurance covered mythical
animals, then remembered that she didn't have house insurance and stopped
worrying about it.
The griffin started gnawing on a table leg. The black fox hid her face under
her tail.
Jubilee went over to her fridge and looked inside. If her memory served,
griffins ate elephants and lost shepherds, but all she had was some peshwari
naan and and a dried up lump of gouda. She didn't think a cheese sandwich
was exactly griffin fodder, so she hunted through her cupboards until she
found some butterscotch angel delight. She mixed it up in a bowl and set it
down in front of the griffin, who sniffed it cautiously. Then she picked the
black fox up out of the sink, and put her in the living room. The cat was
asleep in the laundry basket, so Jubilee left it alone.
The griffin lapped at the angel delight, purring loudly, it's pointed ears
flickering back and forth. Jubilee found a pot of polyfiller and set about
repairing the gouges in the walls. The black fox started picking up the
stuffing lying on the floor.
~Well, the room needed a change, she offered philosophically.
Jubilee smiled and nodded, she had always liked the idea of bare
floorboards.
She glanced at the griffin, who had finished its food and was stood in the
doorway, it's tail held high, sniffing curiously.
-This, Jubilee sighed -could be difficult.

any death threats/publishing deals/comments would be well received,
jules

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From FoxInASnow at xxx.com  Tue Mar 28 17:18:33 2000
From: FoxInASnow at xxx.com (FoxInASnow at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 11:18:33 EST
Subject: Sinister: getting to knowwww you...
Message-ID: <ac.2f89f2a.26123559@aol.com>

Hello Sinister.

Joanna pleasantly introduced herself with:
>     On Neptune, the pressure in the atmosphere and on the surface of the 
> planet are so high that the carbon is formed into diamonds, which are swept 
> into the air and rain back down. Diamond hailstorms are actually quite common 
> there...the image they used in Discover magazine was "diamonds raining 
> through honey," because the atmosphere is so thick and gooey. 

I find this really fascinating, both the idea of a planet where it rains diamonds and the idea of introducing yourself by telling the second most interesting thing you know. Do you make it the second so that you can prove later on that you know something even more interesting? I don't even know what the second most interesting thing i know is. I'll have to think about that.

I must say though, the image of diamonds falling through Honey is a little bit disturbing. 

By the way, my name is Jessica and i just resubscribed here today after being away for something like a year now. Most of you won't remember me, but i missed you.

Love,
Jessica.
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From lixibell at xxx.com  Tue Mar 28 17:33:45 2000
From: lixibell at xxx.com (alix campbell)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:33:45 GMT
Subject: Sinister: heaven was not her scene
Message-ID: <20000328163345.20095.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hallo

I am the biggest fool alive. Today I got up, donned my beautiful exclusively 
manmade fibres uniform and went to work. Then I realised it was my day off. 
I came back home again, hitting myself repeatedly round the head with a 
mallet.
Some of this may be a lie.

Well, my week may be beginning stupidly, but the weekend was nice. I�m not 
going to go into details, as it will make people jealous, and make Pam and 
Mike�s collective ego even bigger than it already is, but they do make 
lovely hostesses. Mike included. The Foxgloves are a lovely band, I am not 
their number one fan, that privilege goes to the Queen Mother of course, who 
recently in her �Best Two Things of my Tediously Long Life� list, chose the 
Foxgloves and her artificial hip. In that order. I also had a long, 
*invigorating* walk through the Euston area in the middle of the night. A 
detour? Yeah, right.

It�s raining now, I�m still in my uniform and I�m bored. I could eat 
something.

I�m so bored I just scanned my feet.

Time to go and scan more things, I think.

lixi


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From smiley at xxx.uk  Tue Mar 28 09:34:45 2000
From: smiley at xxx.uk (Mike)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:34:45 +0100
Subject: Sinister: If you're bored then you're boring
Message-ID: <000201bf98d7$7cf9cec0$b80a883e@n8j4k7>

Hullo chickens,

    I've just read the Spinisterines post and loved it. You know when you
read a post that's obviously been painstakingly well thought out? God, that
makes me feel slightly envious, because I'm just talking rubbish here.
Anything that makes me laugh is worth a bit of jealously though.

    JenOwl said:
>Could everyone please excuse for the fact I have really fat legs,
>and a sad jumper.

    But I have to say that I quite like that jumper. If I didn't have to
keep up a reputation as a black clad Velvet Underground listening dark horse
(though I'm not actually a horse, you understand) then I might go around
wearing sad jumpers. I don't think I can make any comment on legs without
getting arrested though, so I won't. Oh yeah, and next time you see a hard
kid Jen, box him one for me. Because I daren't.

    This Is Just A Modern Rock Song was supposed to arrive yesterday. It
didn't. I thought maybe it would arrive today. My post has just arrived. It
hasn't. I would like to take this opportunity to say that everybody who
works at Jungle.com is a silly sausage. And anyone who works at 101cd is
nothing short of a complete moke (you might say). If anyone DOES work at
101cd, then I want my Ballboy EP. I ordered it...[checks date]... 28 days
ago. Fergodssake.

    Yesterday I went on #sinister for the first time. Even though I'm a
Computing student and so I'm supposed to know all about machine code and
HTML and IRC and stuff, I realised yesterday that in fact I know didily
squat. Thanks to Vel for holding my hand on my first visit though. I still
found it mildly terrifying, but I'll be back soon. I'll have to lie low for
a bit when the phone bill arrives. I hope my mum accepts cheques.

    I started feeling a bit worried about the new album, but then I realised
it will be fine. It will be different, I guess. Like The Boy With The Arab
Strap is different. Which is good, I suppose. There's only so long you can
keep doing the same thing. Blur realised after three albums of writing about
London businessmen that people were bored. So although I hope B&S don't do a
Blur and become a totally different band, we don't want another Tigermilk.
Tigermilk is my favourite, don't get me wrong. But I've got one thanks, I
don't need another. So the new album will be fab.

Bye bye then,
Mike
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From amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk  Tue Mar 28 17:54:09 2000
From: amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk (amy_jackson0)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 17:54:09 +0100
Subject: Sinister: the trials of being 16 and 7 months old.....
Message-ID: <000001bf98d8$8b74aaa0$d1023c3e@tinypc>

tuesday evening, 28/03/2000

you will all be glad to know that this post is much happier than my last
one, i am no longer as depressed by my b&s boy (well, maybe just a wee
bit....) or my friends' ineptitude, because of the lovely messages that were
sent to me as a result.....you all know who you are so
THANKYOU!!!!!
/me passes out lots of sweets and hugs to everyone......

well, today i went to school, after listening to "helicon 1" by mogwai four
times in a row (at half seven in the morning, it's the only thing that can
waken me up) and the "boy done wrong again" by you-know-who  lots of times
as well, to get me in the mood for my lonely day in a school of just 200
people, (200 troubled teenagers is an understatement)  most of whom i've
known since i was a wee baby...arrived in school, getting death stares from
various ex-friends and for a moment i felt like the girl in "expectations",
y'know, everyone spreads untrue rumours etc and is generally nasty to her,
and i thought, "well, i can rise above it because, erm, i just can!"...so
despite having crap lessons all day (try having triple maths, then double
french, double modern studies and two hours of brain numbing study time) i
decided to ignore them all..it was difficult but eventually i felt a bit
better...even managed to talk about b&s boy without bursting into tears, so
all is getting better.....

as for all this dick slapping business...well, as my gran says "it's the
quiet ones you have to watch", so maybe young struan is not the innocent we
(or maybe it's just me) perceive him as...i do think that he is picking on
judy a bit tho...couldn't chelsea or lisa be dick slaps? maybe they just
don't have the same qualities as judy.....come on stuart, the sinister
nation need to know!!!!  *sheepish smile*
well everyone, thankyou for reading this far..hello to BabyChris
Crystalballs btw, haven't heard from you for
aaaaaaaaagggggeeeeeessssssss......
adios,
littlebelleXXX

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From FearofMops at xxx.com  Tue Mar 28 20:24:18 2000
From: FearofMops at xxx.com (FearofMops at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:24:18 EST
Subject: Sinister: A New Name!!!
Message-ID: <6a.16501e7.261260e2@aol.com>

Januarythaw wrote:
i agree with brandan. (fearofmops at aol.com)
brandan.....hmmmm.......
/me looks around room to see if anyone has been using his puter
nope. brandan's not such a bad name really, but i don't think it fits me very 
well.
i think i'll stick w/ dustan for now.
on Dick Slaps:
 i like it. it makes me laugh every time i think of it.
on Dirty Dream #2:
i had the exact opposite experience as Mr. Dastoor. i barely noticed it the 
first time i heard it. but on repeated listenings it started to grow on me 
until it became one of my favorites. each to his own i suppose.
on missing album covers:
perhaps the twins are having some sort of contractual disagreement w/ the 
record label. they're hiding, refusing to pose until they get a better cut of 
the profits.
on Oompa Loompa Dildos:
i'm glad i don't use dildos.
hmmmmm.....posting this often isn't becoming of a lurker.
ciao all.
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From feather-boa at xxx.com  Tue Mar 28 21:04:45 2000
From: feather-boa at xxx.com (feather boa)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 12:04:45 -0800
Subject: Sinister: i got the mean reds.
Message-ID: <JDKDJKODGGFOCAAA@shared3.whowhere.com>

hello.

what a weekend i had - i'm only just recovering.  my little brother (well, not so little as it happens) had his first big house party on saturday, i came back from my friend's house at around 10, and the house was full of young people, listening to loud music, being drunk.  i ran up to my room only to be confronted by the sight of 2 semi-naked young persons in my bed, sorry i'll repeat that IN MY BED.  so i kicked them out and put dog on wheels on volume 7 to try and drown cyclefly (or whatever they're called) out.  although i did end the evening dancing to steps with a group of jovial goths who told me i was "really old".  and i had a fight with the only other lesbian i know.

um... i spent the whole of sunday disinfecting my room and listening to my box set in order - century of elvis next to century of fakers kind of reinforces the idea that all b&s songs sound the same *l* fortunately la pastie de la bourgoisie lifts the tone again.

(sorry this is so long) i feel we should start a bookclub, to recommend books we've liked.  really laura llew this is your job *s*  because otherwise i'm going to be here every few weeks going "wow everyone has to read breakfast at tiffany's by truman capote" and it's really going to get boring.

pip pip,

FB

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From bmacallister at xxx.org  Tue Mar 28 21:24:18 2000
From: bmacallister at xxx.org (Bonnie)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:24:18 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Book Recommendations
Message-ID: <38E114F2.CC7724AF@philamuseum.org>

This is my first trip out of the nursery.  I wanted to respond to
Feather Boa's question on book recommendations.  Honestly, a former
English major like myself could go on and on, but I would have to say
that everyone should read Sexing the Cherry by Jeanette Winterson (or
The World and Other Places), both of which make me swoon.  Otherwise,
the world Kathy Acker creates in Pussy, King of the Pirates is well
worth investigating.  It's this deconstructed post-apocalyptic realm
full of neat references.  Also anything by A.S. Byatt (especially
Possession) is a great read.  I really dug Big Sur by Kerouac this
summer.  Well, that's my short list.
Take care,
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From sweetie_something at xxx.com  Tue Mar 28 21:30:54 2000
From: sweetie_something at xxx.com (sweetie something)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:30:54 GMT
Subject: Sinister: for once, nothing!!
Message-ID: <20000328203054.79058.qmail@hotmail.com>

sinister


i had another b&s related dream  :)

i dont remember exactly how it went but there was 3 parts to it (in no 
particular order); part 1= art, part 2= the shop and part 3= the game.
actually now that ive wrote it up, it must have went in that order. :)

===============
part 1=art
===============
me and some of my people were in this shopping place it was quite a small 
place and i was wandering along talking to my friends when i heard one of 
the people talking about talking to honey on the phone. i hadnt noticed this 
person b4 that point but he  i was walking along alone with him. and i said 
when i heard honeys voice all i could think about was a small shop that sold 
paintings with small framed paintings all over the walls. i looked to my 
left and that very shop was there, the walls were burgandy/red and the 
lights were off so it was closed and the walls had small paintings (all 
smaller than 1' long and 0.5' high). the shop was on a a ramp/slope which 
was leading up to a different part of the centre, which leads onto...
===============
part 2=the shop
===============
then i was back with my friends. we went up this slope/ramp to an upstairs 
bit and there was some wee weird shops selling cool stuff. but there was one 
shop in particular i was looking for- there was a b&s shop!
after going into a very wee shop that was like the sock shop or whatever it 
is in buchanan galleries that sold jewellery etc we saw that the b&s shop 
was directly across from it. it was quite big and had  quite alot of clothes 
(mainly indie style) in it. it also had other stuff although i dont remember 
what.
then for some reason i was sitting on a bench inside the shop and this guy 
came over to me and we chatted (cant remember what about) but i do remember 
him quoting off b&s lines with various speech impediments.
then i was after a few badges so i asked the guy behind the counter if they 
had any badges. he was early 20's and had long light brown hair (which was 
very lovely and shiney i must say) that was tied back he seemed quite 
surprised/excited that i had asked and rushed to into the wee store room 
behind the counter which i could see into. he took a can off of a shelf and 
proceeded to rip it open and in it were 6 badges, he said they were his own 
and i was to have them. i only remember what 1 of them looked like, it was 
red with at the top 3 or 5 gold stars.
then we went outside the centre which leads onto...
===============
part 3=the game
===============
we went outside and i ws still examining my new badges, and there was some 
sort of game show going on, and i think the people partaking in it were 
sinister, but im not sure. anyway there was a square area with a fence built 
around it and the 4 fence panels were about 6' high and each bar painted a 
different colour and u had to kick away the colours that didnt make the 
colour of a cup of tea, which i did. and i remember wondering 'why?'.
and then i must have woke up coz thats all i remember.

i could be dreaming(oh yes)
sweetie
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From amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk  Tue Mar 28 22:37:23 2000
From: amy_jackson0 at xxx.uk (amy_jackson0)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 22:37:23 +0100
Subject: Sinister: a small, but interesting story, read it for a cheap thrill...........maybe
Message-ID: <000a01bf98fe$312cd4c0$add1b0c2@tinypc>

Lucy turned away as he said the words she had dreaded hearing.  She did not
want to give him the pleasure of seeing her cry, but as the familiar salty
taste ran down her cheek and onto her lips, she knew she was fighting a
losing battle.  Her mother's words rang through her head,  "Lucy, be happy
to be you.  Don't worry about him.  If he can't see and/or deal with what a
wonderful person you are, then he is certainly a fool. Boys come and go but
you will remain to be a fantastic human being.  Don't worry, so fine fellow
will realize this soon enough, but in the meantime, don't worry about it.
Have fun being you."  It was no use, no matter how hard she tried to believe
them, the words just were not enough.  The tears were in full flow now,
pouring down her cheeks like waterfalls.  She walked off, away from him,
down the corridor and past the cold, Spartan rooms.  He called back to her,
but she ignored him, and continued her slightly faltering pace down the
straight corridor.  "If I can make it to the door, I'll be okay, just don't
turn around", she thought to herself, but she could feel the urge to look at
him one more time.  She stopped, and when she turned around she saw him once
again, and she felt a twinge of uncertainty.  Should she go back?  Should
she beg him for another chance?  The questions swam around her brain, and
she felt as if her head would explode if she didn't do something.  The anger
grew inside of her, like the mercury climbing up a thermometer in the middle
of July.  Her pulse began to race, she felt her face growing redder and
hotter and she could feel something, some sort of primal scream travelling
up her throat until she could hold it in no longer.  She threw her arms to
her sides, took a deep breath and screamed.(scroll down...........)













"JUDY IS A DICK SLAP!!!!!!!!!"

Everyone stopped and stared.  He was stood at the top of the corridor now,
with a puzzled expression on his face.  She felt her anger and fear subside,
and she slowly turned around and walked out the door.  He turned around
also, scratched his head and thought,  "what the hell is a dick slap, and
more to the point, who is Judy?"
by littlebelle  28/03/2000

Y'see ladies and gentlemen, Struan's world domination is almost complete as
this scene from my already over active imagination proves.

PS  in my Oscars speech I want to thank Molly for the "mother's" words, my
mam, dad, *sob* my late, grate pet rabbit, jeepster webchat, #sinister,
belle and sebastian, looper, idlewild, cotton wool, candyfloss, *sniffle*,
my beautiful hometown of sinister village *insert weeping noises here* where
I am a trainee in the record store with limited (i.e. no) copies of Legal
Man, get it while you can, and God, amen brothers and sisters!

I do apologise for this post, I have just come home after three hours
babysitting and i di not understand what has come over me.....*ahem*....

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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com  Tue Mar 28 22:49:14 2000
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:49:14 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Bowlie TV
Message-ID: <200003281649_MC2-9EF2-F72D@compuserve.com>

Hi,

Bowlie Beat Room early this morning: (Part 2, meaning I missed Part 1 -
poo) Lots of Duglas (although both his interview of me & my brilliant
rewind impression ended on the cutting room floor) plus Ladybug Transistor,
Mercury Rev, Cornelius, Broadcast & some combo doing a shaky cover of The
Kids Are Alright. I was really ecstatic to see this last again
(grinny/bouncy Struan, like an unstriped Tigger!), but then very sad
because I really want to see all the rest again.

Hey ho.

Post coy team omni animalia tristi sunt*, I guess.


I thought of something really witty to post on the way to work this
morning, but its wiped now.

David Moore
Chelmsford, UK

*sorry, Mum (Classics teacher)
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From grey7 at xxx.net  Wed Mar 29 22:59:03 2000
From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:59:03 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Here comes the sun....
Message-ID: <004501bf99ca$0101c540$e8d033cf@default>

    Dear Sinister Siblings,

    The blur of winter is wearing off and spring is getting it's ass in gear
finally. After suffering a brief bit of apathy and a slight dip into maudlin
thoughts the arrival of LLPJ slipcase helped to hearten me, as did the
arrival of several books by Harlan Ellison including a collection of his
essays for the LA Free Press which rekindled my spirit and gave me a swift
kick in the butt, waking me out of my winter blah induced haze that had been
hanging around for about two weeks. This was mostly due to several run-ins
with (in no particular order), a rabid bigot, a sexist, a homophobic moron,
a pack of religious zombies, and an ex-girlfriend. However, besides  LLPJ
and Harlan several other things cheered me to no end.

  1)  American Beauty swept the awards. Which it deserved even though the
Insider was a brilliant piece of filmmaking as well.
2) Hilary Swank won for "Boys Don't Cry", as she said in her speech sunday,
the amazing thing is that the movie was even made (which would have been
unthinkable three years ago), let alone won an award. Which just goes to
show how far we've come in such a short time.
3) By September same-sex civil unions will be protected in Vermont. This is
almost assured to pass despite objections from the Moral Majority Midgets,
welcome to the twenty-first century, please watch your head. Though I am
reminded of the many states where these legislations are being shot down and
of things like the bus situation in the UK and the fact that we as a nation
couldn't pass the ERA so what hope do civil unions and laws protecting equal
rights for homosexuals have?
4) I spent a day at an elementary school reading Winnie -the-Pooh to fifth
graders and was rewarded with a group of smart, sharp as tacks, kids who
joked around with me and expressed an interest in reading. I am also going
to be spending this summer working with kids as part of a day-camp program
through the local community ed.
5)Thanks to those who turned me onto some very cool stuff after I mentioned
that I liked B&W photography and was developing a greater appreciation for
phtography as art (though to be honest, can we please avoid the what-is-art,
what-is-music bits?). Having said that I hope Erica won't mind if I point
out something that I thought was just brilliant,
www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty/art.html

    I'm not sure if Erica did all that herself but I think the middle pic is
amazing. There's some other brilliant pics on her site, especially the
London pics. Of course, I can look at pics of dog turds if they're b&w, I
just love it.


Idiot of the day:
"Darwinism equals Communism"- bumper sticker at MSU...no, I'm not making
that up.

    I'm not sure where I'm going with this one so bear with me, though I do
promise actual B&S content and a bit of it to boot. This will prolly end up
longish, so apologies about that. Oh, I may spout off odd quotes at
times...I apologize in advance, I'm feeling verbose today...

"Sure, I'm a vegitarian, but I'd kill a cow in a New York minute for a cool
looking jacket"- Bobcat Goldwaite

    Nothing really to say about the above, just that I wanted to share that.
Also, the fact that if I'd love to be a vegitarian...but, I just likes the
meat too much. *sigh*, I guess there are no morally pure positions in the
world.

    Onto the B&S stuff then; The new album. I'm excited. It's a new Bell and
Sebastian album (plus we have the promise of a new Delgados album this year
too, what? not listening to the Delgados? Run out and buy Peloton right now
and pick up "the Virgin Suicides" by AIR while you're at it) so of course
I'm excited. As to the whole idea of "retro-sixties", jeez, does it really
matter? I'm of the mind that B&S is in part descendent from those folk-rock
roots anyways. Retro? It doesn't parse for me, the titles and look of the
album still owe to where B&S have been.
    If it is retro-sixties it is in the idea that B&S are musical
descendents of the folk groups of the sixties in the same way that rock of
the fifties grew out of skiffle and country/westen and blues/jazz. You'll
pardon me but I get in a slight sniff when the term retro is used as a
pejorative. Which it can be pejorative in the same way 'camp' is. When
people today try and do camp they usually make a fine mess of it in the same
way people who *try* to 'do' retro stuff end up with a lackluster product.
But there's a difference between "retro" and simply playing folksy music
with a semblance of sixties nostalgia.
    But I don't think we are seeing anykind of concentrated effort to
produce a retro-album with "Fold Your Hands Child.." (am i the only one who
can't do the abreviation?), instead I think they are building on what
they've done before in the same way "Sinister" and "Boy with the..." did
from "Tigermilk". Will it be a new sound? Maybe, as Mike said (in far fewer
words and much better than I) "There's only so long you can keep doing the
same thing". It remains to be seen if the album is as strong as previous
efforts, but I've got faith.

    "I write to remind you that you are not alone, we are all in the same
skin, all heirs to the terrors and wonders of simply being human"- Harlan
Ellison

     The Ep slipcase: Dare I say brilliant? Oh, I've heard them all before
on mix tapes supplied by my Sinister siblings, but now I have them in CD
format for my very own enjoyment and all for $17. I went into the local
Harmony House (which kinda stinks in comparison to my usual haunts at Wazzo
in Ann Arbor or Tower) and asked if they had it. To my suprise the women
knew exactly what I wanted and even commented that one of the girls that
worked there had been looking to buy their other copy and that they had sold
another copy of the set earlier that day.
    (My friend Bryan submits that he had a similar experience in Tower in
Ann Arbor. He was looking for something to get me and asked the girl at the
counter if she knew who the spin-off groups from B&S were. She rattled off a
long bit about Looper and Gentle Waves and B&S and how "absolutlely fucking
brilliant" they were and he should buy every album by all of them. He ended
up getting me Looper, which I already had but anyways, and buying Tigermilk
for himself which he absolutely loves now)
    The MSU radio station, the Impact 88.9 continues to play B&S on a
regular basis and I've also caught them on "Brave New Waves" which I dimly
pick up from somewhere in Canada. A rather brilliant show to as anyone who's
heard it should know.

    Judy: Well, our little girl's all grown up now isn't she? Went from
dreaming of horses to pharmaceuticals to the dickslapping. Hmmmm, we had
such high hopes for that one too. Not sure if I need an extended
dickslapping though, the regular version should be quite enough for me thank
you very much.

    "It is precisely at their worst that human beings are most
interesting" - HL Mencken

    Non-B&S stuff: A book store in my little Michigan town was picketted
last week. It's a little New Age store that sells incense and tarot decks
and books on meditation and philosophy and Wicca and the like. About thirty
people stood outside and prayed for it's closure and then went inside for
over an hour and informed the owners in stern but soft voices that they were
going to hell and that their satan worship wouldn't be tolerated in our
town. The television news caught wind of the story and ran it as; "Churches
protest Satanic Bookstore".
    I shouldn't even have to mention that there wasn't anything remotely
satanic about the shop, that it was just a regular New Age shop that had
some overpriced incense and power stones and a few tarot decks and some
books on meditation and Wicca and Buddism that normally I'd give a rat's ass
about but decided to check into since the stink was going on.
    Sorry, but I wanted to share that because I think it's sad that some
people forget just what the First Amendment means and that people like that
reverand managed to instill the FEAR into thirty people and have them
'praying' that a store would close. WWJD? He'd run the hell away from people
like that. It's the twenty-first century and we still have the specter of
the witchhunts over our heads.
    It is with much pleasure that I learned that many, like myself, were
spurned to action by this and have in fact increased traffic at the store by
coming in and spending money there as a form of counter-protest. I'm also
heartened by the fact that the overwhelming majority of people wrote into
the local paper in defense of the store and its right to be there.

    Books and such: Anything single book or collection of stories or essays
by Harlan Ellison. "Dead Girls" and its sequels by Richard Caulder are mad
novels about sex, death, fashion, living clothing, pop psychology and other
fun subjects set in a cyberpunk universe by way of Alice in Wonderland.
    "High Fidelity" which has already been mentioned by others but needs to
be mentioned again because it's just *that* brilliant. Oh, and "Empire of
the Sun" by JG Ballard because it's so beautiful and tragic and told with
much humility and humanity.

    That's all for now, "Goodbye Rag! Goodbye Tag! Goodbye Bobtail!"

    Be Sinister Children.....

    Jim (who's mood is much improved thank-you-very much)

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From michael at xxx.net  Wed Mar 29 00:13:44 2000
From: michael at xxx.net (Michael Cronshaw)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 00:13:44 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Anyone listened to B&S backwards?
Message-ID: <000f01bf990b$4a1f04a0$02000003@oemcomputer>

Hello again everybody peeps,

I just thought I'd help out for peeps who might wear out their
needles/heads/lasers looking for subliminals:

Rob said:

>I'm sorry to bring this back up again but I have some very interesting
>information.  For the uninitaited, about a month ago we were talking about
>Mr M shouting at Mr G in LLPJ, but no one could find it - until now.
>
>Yes that's right, I think I've found it.  Before you rush to your record
>players and pin back a good ear I think I should tell you what you should
>be looking for.  Imagine someone shouting from a long way away, but their
>voice is gruff.  Now, the words to me sound like 'turn it up Chris', the
>place in the sone is, wait for it, Five munuets seven seconds.  HOLD ON,
>there is also some shouting at five minuets ten seconds.
>
>Right, go forth and listen

The shouting is very audible on the live Bowlie recording of LLPJ. I think
it was a live adlibbin comment. I certainly can't hear it on the studio
recording (I checked before writing this). So unless I'm missing something,
don't wear out yer electronics & sanity looking for it, unless you have a
bootleg of the Bowlie.

That's all, except for an opinion for which I expect to receive hate mate or
removal from the list: Bel's and Stevie's songs are nice, good songs. Stu
M's are fantastic, GRATE, he is the Morrissey/Marr, the Lennon. That looper
though - he's a looper. A piss-takin moke. Can he have his own separate
mailing list now? I'm sure it's what he would have wanted.

Oooh controversial! Come on you Mozart lovers or even Go Kart Mozart lovers,
let's put paid to the John Otway of the group!

Mikey.x

P.S. as a peace offering can I recommend Marine Research's album?

----------------------------
"There's a portrait in a backroom which I keep for days upon, which I relent
and gaze for hours on the muscle skin and
                   C#               G#                           F#
C#                        B                    A#m
 bone of some imaginary friend..." - Stu M of B&S, Slow Graffiti
  F#                     G#

vs

"I think it's going to be all right, I think it's going to be just fine, I
think it's going to get much better than before..." (!) -
                                 F
A#                                               F
C
Looper of Looper, Paper Cliche
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From pookie59 at xxx.com  Wed Mar 29 03:08:28 2000
From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 18:08:28 PST
Subject: Sinister: rendezvous with rama
Message-ID: <20000329020828.64064.qmail@hotmail.com>

Sweet Sinister-folk,

I just love that word: Raahhhmahhhhh...I haven't read the book..I didn't 
even know of it.But now I must,just for the title!
boring bit:I've been away for a while so I believe there are some mails and 
stuff oweing to some of you.Be patient my delicate petals,and one day we 
will rejoice in your intoxicating fragrance.I have had to adopt the 
hard-working spirit, if I want anything in life.Or,more importantly,if I 
want to be having summer fun.It will all be worth it.

Be ye strong...let not your hands be weak:
for your work shall be rewarded.

Gosh,I want to comment on the titles of the albums and singles but is that 
old news already? Fold Your Hands...sounds like a lyric FROM a Belle and 
Sebastian song.I find it very sweet that Struan-Doll wanders the toilets of 
Glasgows for artistic inspiration.He's gotten a couple of things from 
graffitti,hasn't he? Le Pastie and stuff? Ok,and I think the proper term is 
actually Dick Smack. Well,thats what friends call you when you're being an 
idiot.Around here,anyways. We shoudln't be shocked that Struan has a potty 
mouth.He has used the word 'wank' after all,and surely that is 
naughty,although not as controversial as he is getting.I think he's just 
trying to get out attention, ha ha..naughty boy! Sure,he looks the innocent 
flower,but those ones are always the worst.Plus,the stories I've told you.I 
didn't make those up you know! I share those with my fellow sinister 
brothers & sisters. He really did slither out of the forest after football 
practice one night, when I was with fellow girl-champion and sinisterine 
yenoH.And we've all heard the stories from fans spying him frolicking around 
in capes and feathered hairdos,kinky whip in hand.Don't pretend you don't 
already know this!

brenda wrote the funniest thing:
>hey did anybody else who was at  Bowlie  abandon the B&S show at the final 
>hour for a blast of Godspeed!?  we did (for a myriad of reasons, including 
>the anal freak chick in front of us going "ssh" when we accidentally 
>laughed uncontrollably at her playing of the "air trumpet"  uh-huh)

And that made me laugh and imagine the air-trumpeting. Oh  B&S fans---
you're one of a kind,thats for sure!

I also was laughing at the stories of the "hard" boy that Jen-Owl gave a 
good smacking.Hurrah!Theres a guy like that here,he always picks on the 
quiet ones in class,but he's so stupid,he doesn't even realise how 
dick-smackish he sounds.The insults aren't even funny!If you stump him with 
a witty insult (a waste- he usually can't understand them) he'll just be 
like 'You're gay' Oh,ok then,let me just make out with the girl in front of 
me, then we'll see whats what! Guys like that always crumple when you 
comment on their sexual repression and/or phobias.

hot wax & kisses,
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From freezebum at xxx.com  Wed Mar 29 03:36:20 2000
From: freezebum at xxx.com (yellow bananas)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 02:36:20 GMT
Subject: Sinister: to infinity and beyond... the teenaged years
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hello.
this is my 3rd unimaginative post to the list. but i thought i should post 
something today, since

(a)it's the 2nd last day of my teenaged life (if i'm not wrong, someone else 
on the list is facing the same erm... predicament).

(b)i dreamt that eric cartman called kenny a dick slap.

(c)i have a silly and useless management presentation in 2 hours, which 
makes me unnecessarily, unfortunately and excessively nervous, so i feel 
compelled to moan to the list.

it's weird to be turning 20, since i still feel 12. a magpie told me that 
since u never know anything until u're past 18, i'm technically speaking, 
only 2. the difference is that when i was 12, i never felt like a kid, and 
never dreamt of being 20, but now that i'm 20, i'm aware that i feel like a 
kid and i always dream of being 12.

i am very excited about the new record. i'm sure it's going to be a dick 
slap, in a positive sense of speaking. it's going to be a few months though, 
so i'll let my excitement grow, "like chocolate melting in ur mouth". or 
something like that someone else said. i'm bad at remembering names. it 
won't be long though. i mean, i've waited 20 years to turn 20.

i have to put on my proleteriat pants now.

huey

ps. the new eels record is lovely. my first copy was unfortunately stolen, 
but i shall have it replaced. soon. anyway, it's lovely, like daisies in a 
galaxy, like diamonds through honey. now who said that?
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From lleweth at xxx.com  Wed Mar 29 04:46:08 2000
From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:46:08 PST
Subject: Sinister: In response to the general ennui on the list of late..
Message-ID: <20000329034608.83559.qmail@hotmail.com>

"Oh, you can't help that, " said the chesire cat. "We're all mad here. I'm 
mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?", said Alice.
"You must be," said the cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."

I think this quote is so appropriate for this list. Wonderland - Sinister. 
Same thing.

Have you ever thought about how brillant those stories from your childhood 
really are and how much they effected you in silly ways? I remember standing 
at the bus stop as a child when the weather was cold so that you can see 
your breath. I would try to make my breath for O's and U's like the 
Catepillar's did when he asked Alice, "Whooooo are Youuuuu."  Much to my 
disappointment, it never did work.

Feisty Feather Boa boomed, "I feel we should start a bookclub, to recommend 
books we've liked. really laura llew this is your job *s* because otherwise 
i'm going to be here every few weeks going 'wow everyone has to read 
breakfast at tiffany's by truman capote' and it's really going to get 
boring."

Now, I just couldn't go stay quiet while all of this talk of books and 
bookclubs went on. Y'all should know how giddy I get about such things. I 
think a booklub would be lovely but I don't know if this list is necessarily 
the place for it. I don't want to start something here that would end up 
being exiled. How about if I put it on the bookshop page on the Sinister 
V*ll@&e site? If you're interested on typing up a short review on a book 
that you really love, please do so and e-mail it to me. I'll post it there 
and it can be the beginning of a beautiful relationship. (Until you decide 
that you need more space to grow, become an alcoholic and start cheating on 
me with the lady down the hall. *sobs*)  I also am putting up the link to 
the literary list which you can still post your recommendations for. The 
site is http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/litlist.htm (more shameless 
self promoting. I should be a politican.)  I hope this is ok since I've 
already posted this to the village site. My father always told me to just do 
things without asking permission. Then, when you find out you were wrong you 
simply dress up in grey and start what will be the bloodiest war of your 
country's history. Hey, we do things a bit differently in the south, hehe.

I've been happy to see other listerines (especially Carolina boys. Rah!) 
discussing their once a year sports fanaticism that arrives with the NCAA 
tournament. I must confess to being a victim of the same illness. I'm  
really not a sports fan (just the braves really) but then my personality 
becomes warped (even more) during March Madness. What is the allure? Is it 
the little brackets and guessing all the way to the road to the final four? 
I blame my case on conditioning. Yes, that's right classical conditioning. 
(Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?)  When I was growing up, my elementary 
school would have a competition every year. Unknowing lil' kiddies would 
sign up their names for whichever  team they  thought would win in the ACC 
tournament. The llewsers had to run a mile (they set aside one afternoon for 
this). If you won, you.. wait, I actually don't know what the winners got. 
>From 1st grade to 5th I signed up for the Carolina Tarheels. Guess when the 
Tarheels won the ACC tournament? That's right. When I was in Kindygarten and 
in the sixth grade(neither of which I could play).  Yet, I'm still a 
tarheels fan (ok so this goes against the rules of my conditioning theory. 
Sue me). I also remember these horrible little jeers I learned from my other 
brothers to taunt other kids with. My favorite was "Duke is a fluke. Wake is 
fake but the one I hate is NC State. Gooooooooo Heels!"  (We were 7 - what 
do you expect Shakespeare?)

To the person lamenting over your 20th birthday (Oooh, I feel like Dorothy 
Parker. Well, except for that fact that I'm not witty, beautiful, powerful, 
or have ever been near an algonquin table. Otherwise..),  20 is the age of 
perfection. Now, this isn't like most of my claims.  I actually have a well 
thought out reasoning behind this statement. When you're 19, you're a 
teenager. When you're 21, you're officially an adult (well in the US 
anyway). But when you're 20, you're nobody.  Zilch, zip, nada, zero, dust, 
etc. But you can take that sharpened pencil away from your throat BECAUSE 
(drum roll please) ... Everybody knows that nobody is perfect! (except for 
Will Porter but I've already made this claim before) .... Well, I tried.  My 
main problem with any birthday is the feeling of a lack of an 
accomplishment. I just feel as if I should have done something with my life 
by now besides reading and going on road trips. I mean Ken Griffey Jr had 
hit around 100 home runs by 22 and Gauss had written a number theory book. I 
can't even think of more than 2 examples of people who did really great 
things when they were young.  Anyway, I want to give mad belated birthday 
shouts out to both I want to to my mad monkey boy nc Rob and deviance 
personified Eran. I hope that you both had wonderous birthdays. Rah!

*gives cyberglam julie a piece of string to play with since she looks bored*

Ok ok. Back to b&s. I must admit that at first I was bit disconcerted by 
some of the titles for the new album but I think I'm ok with everything now. 
See, I was flipping through the radio stations on my way home this morning 
when I noticed everything was predominantly country. Have you ever realized 
how *bad* some of those country songs are? We're talking about titles like 
"Get your tongue out of my mouth I'm kissing you goodbye" (I believe that's 
by Waylon Jennings).  It's all relative (especially in country music, hehe). 
Just to show you how lucky we are, I have compiled a list of countryesque 
song titles that we all should be delighted aren't the titles of the new B&S 
tracks.
- She chews tobacco but she won't choose me
- I backed my sweetie a pie but he left with a tart
- I lost my honey bunny on a bad hare day
- Ain't no trash in my trailer since the night I threw you out
- Now that we're miserable, I hope you're happy.

I think we all now know that I need to find some kind of hobby to keep me 
occupied at my night job...

Has anyone else noticed that the Steves are ruling the list? Both Steve C 
(walkn10) and Steve Kado's last posts have been ACE. Even if Kado is trying 
to get people to watch that wretched film Zardoz.  With lines such as, "The 
penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life, and poisons the 
earth with a plague of men, as once it was. But the gun shoots death, and 
purifies the earth of the filth of brutals. Go forth and kill!" -- I've seen 
better film on teeth.

*notices Julie has made a wedding dress out of the piece of string*
North Carolina does strange things to ya, eh?

love and chapstick kisses

Laura
'meeting all of your Laura Llew needs since 1977'

PS-  I would be ingrateful if I didn't give huge huge thanks to all the 
peeps who've made my life bearable by showering me with mix tapes and the 
likes. Thanks to tophu topher, I am now the proud owner of a Llama Farmers 
sticker. (I'm a HUGE Llama Farmers fan. I mean sure I've never actually 
heard any of their stuff but still I'm very devoted. It's the double L's and 
all I'm sure).  I'm also indebted to Wells for the spiffy silversun mix tape 
(I waited 2 years to hear them!)  and Jim Gilmer for the live K's Choice 
tape. It was like a birthday party here at my house. Yay!
PPS- Ted I can see you're sad because I haven't mentioned your name. Oh 
there.. now, you're smiling. heh
PPPS- Thanks to Jan Imgrund & Magnetic Megan for letting me steal their 
lines for my subject titles. Could you both write me more so that I can keep 
up this charade to myself that I'm clever? Thanks.


**********Laura Llew's Lovely Lurker of The Week**********
This goes to that delightful & dapper lad who always makes me laugh with his 
personal e-mails but never posts to the list. I had thought that he had 
unsubscribed but word has it that he's back. Now, if we can just coax him 
out of his shell to post once more. This goes to the most charming... Rob 
(robhalcrowe at lineone.net. Everyone harass him to post. Rah!)
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From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com  Wed Mar 29 05:29:44 2000
From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 23:29:44 EST
Subject: Sinister: birds. Truman Capote. moon rocks
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In a message dated 3/28/00 10:51:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
lleweth at hotmail.com writes:

<< wow everyone has to read 
 breakfast at tiffany's by truman capote'  >>


Ahem. Um, for anyone that remembers me, i'm back on the list. Hello again.

I would like to second the motion that people read this book. It's really 
good. I've never seen the movie though. I have seen an A&E special on Audrey 
Hepburn though. 

can you believe that Jennifer Love Hewitt is going to play Ms Hepburn in an 
upcoming biopic? 

quoth Huey

<< magpie told me that 
since u never know anything until u're past 18, i'm technically speaking, 
only 2. the difference is that when i was 12, i never felt like a kid, and 
never dreamt of being 20, but now that i'm 20, i'm aware that i feel like a 
kid and i always dream of being 12.>>

magpie reminds me of a crow. And I like crows. They are my totem animal. 
However I advise you to disregard the magpie's advice in this case. I know 
less now than I used to. And I'm 20 also. You're right, it's an uneventful 
birthday. At least when I turned 18 I listened to that Alice Cooper song as 
soon as I woke up. There aren't many songs for the twenties, are there?

Think of it as the Roaring Twenties. That should help

from the dusty surface of a lunar crater,
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From timothy at xxx.net  Wed Mar 29 10:05:43 2000
From: timothy at xxx.net (Scampi)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 10:05:43 +0100
Subject: Sinister: its a long, long way down
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Talking about the age thing, I think that the most depressing age is 21.  I
happened to find a biology text book under a bench in victoria coach station
once, and as I had to wait another hour for the coach, had read all the
'london to wherever you want to go to, for less' leaflets and was generally
extremely bored, I started to turn the pages, as you do.  I definitely
wouldn't recommend the book for inclusion in the bookshop.  Anyway, there
was a section at the front of the book which was entitled "Amazzzzing facts
about YOU!" and it  said that the age of peak sexual performance for men was
21, so at this moment in time I should be in the prime of my existance - it
is a downhill slope from now on.  I should be dancin' and a romancin' all
the time at the moment, cus tomorow I will be geriatric.  How miserable is
that?  From what I could gather, the only positive thing about being older
than 21 is that you have still got another 3 years to go on your young
persons railcard, and you can stand for parliment - hooray!  That makes it
all better then.

love and pensions,
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From elenita99 at xxx.com  Wed Mar 29 12:31:18 2000
From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita99)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 12:31:18 CEST
Subject: Sinister: a "nice" story
Message-ID: <20000329103119.56128.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hello List,
Well, I still can't understand why Tigermilk is always fresh and bright as a 
spring morning, even after listening it 10000000 times, but anyway that is 
no the point.

I was thinking today about how I discovered B&S, it was a "coincidence day", 
so i thought I tell you about it.
So it was about 2 1/2 years ago, one of my friend brought me to Helene's 
flat, a girl I didn't know at all. (tiny coincidence, if you translate my 
name it's the same as hers) Anyway, we were here sitting, drinking a bit and 
blablating, when she played IYFS on her stereo. I found it good, and as she 
was nice and the first impression was good for both of us, she left me the 
CD cos she was out the next day for a week of holiday.
And...she was killed by a car two days later while crossing a street. I 
didn't know her, but it was a bit of a shock, well she was 18 like I used 
to, and I suppose that kind of thing is always a bit of a shock...
I didn't know her or her family or boyfriend or whoever, so IYFS stayed with 
me and that was the beginning of my B&S addiction.
It sounds a bit "brrr" and unusual, I know, but well that's what happened...

last thing: I would be glad to receive by email any ideas and places for 
going out in London (is this my first list abuse? I hope not but if it is 
I'm sorry :), as I am quite new around here...thanks!!

Oh and Jason, answering your question, I lost my virginity with Ben Harper's 
firts album "welcome to the cruel world", which is quite a good title to do 
it I think.

Love and kisses to you all
Elena



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From Mark at xxx.com  Wed Mar 29 10:12:30 2000
From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 10:12:30 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Mum and Dad and Uncle Bill don't realise
Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22DB3961@SERVER1>

Yesterday, /me bought not one, not two, but THREE swinbeat/r'n'b type
singles yesterday. What's happening to me? I even felt the need to make
excuses at the counter - at least I had Joni Mitchell and Hefner to give a
bit of perspective into my warped musical taste.

Okay, one was "No Scrubs" which is one of the finest songs of the last 10
years, but the other two...A prize (okay, a guest list spot at the next
Peasantfolding, as I've just this minute renamed Sinister's top P!O!P!
extravaganza) for the first person to guess what they are...

Which reminds me, I don't think I bigged up Youn for sending me a Venn
diagram of Catholics, homosexuals, uncle Tom Cobbley and all, which won the
prize even though (or perhaps because) I couldn't figure out what the hell
was going on. More maths in pop!

My first cup of coffee tastes like overpriced corporate heaven in a
cardboard mug. Not Starbucks though.

Okay, hardcore book recommendation (which I think I've suggested before, but
Laura quoting Steve quoting Zardoz reminded me) - "Orlando Furioso" by
Ludovico Ariosto. Okay, so it's a thousand pages of densely-packed medieval
Italian poetry (so Lucy Alder'll be okay then), but if you can find an
English prose translation, you'll be overwhelmed and amazed and astonished
in equal measure. It's like every tale of magic and chivalry ever, all
intertwined into a narrative which resembles a bloated, magnificent soap
opera, only with more blood. There's a lot of blood. For the Belle and
Sebastian fans among you, it's a bit like an epic medieval Italian courtly
version of "I could be dreaming".

Yay! Jessica and Jygsaw Dave are back! Roll on the sinister old people's
massive!

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From lucy.alder at xxx.uk  Wed Mar 29 13:32:30 2000
From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 13:32:30 +0100
Subject: Sinister:  Beagle Flan
Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F335311B@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk>

I saw a builder's bumcrack today.  He was bending over some paving slabs and
he was all pale and pasty and flabby, but to my surprise, my initial
reaction was not "get that out of my sight right now!" but "he'll catch a
chill in his kidneys if he's not careful".  That's what my Nanna said to me
when she saw me in my Saturday Night Hussy T-shirt on Sunday.  It's a bit
short to wear with low-slung cords, you see, and I get a chilly, gappy bit
around the middle.  Maybe she should have asked why I was wearing a Saturday
Night Hussy T-shirt on a Sunday, but I wore it on Saturday night too, just
to make it clear that I can be a hussy on a Saturday night, should I so
desire.  Not that I was though.  I'm a good girl, I am.  I washed me face
an' 'ands before I come.

Speaking of which, my sister says Geri Halliwell is the new Rex Harrison
because they both talk to musical accompaniment to cover up for the fact
that they actually can't sing:
"I like sugar on my colour TV" says Geri
"By Jove I think we've done it!" said Rex/'Enry 'Iggins
Darling Audrey Hepburn didn't sing in My Fair Lady either, but she mimed
very nicely and wore some classy frocks.  Did she sing Moon River herself?

Genevieve wrote:
>>I find it very sweet that Struan-Doll wanders the toilets of Glasgows for
artistic inspiration.
I wonder if he goes into the Ladies as well as the Gents in search of words
of wisdom he can use.  I'm sure he could sneak in with the help of a wig and
a smear of lipstick.  Then, he could write a very interesting essay
comparing the two.  For some reason, I always imagine that the walls of the
boys' bogs are covered in rather primitive drawings of cocks with spiky hair
on the balls, although I can't be certain that this is the case because the
boys' smells so nasty I wouldn't go in unless it was a dare or a desperate
situation.  On a wall down Green Lanes in Harringay, somebody has wirtten
Gay Dad Everywhere.  Now there's a frightening prospect.

Right, that's your lot for now.  I'm off to Milan on Monday, daaaahlings, to
get my annual fix of shopping, footie, proper ice cream and dark, handsome
strangers.  Hope everyone going to ATP has a gorgeous time.  

Juicy Lucy




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From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com  Wed Mar 29 14:43:35 2000
From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 05:43:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: good things/bad things.......
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1) - good things 

      playing guitar in a concert tonight.  H!O!T!
chicks seemed inpressed by my 'talent' at lunch.
      I'm going to have my photo in the herald
tomorrow. some article about catholic education.
buy it, and be dazzled by my stunning-ness

2) bad things 
     my friends funeral on saturday morning
     then I found out that I'm not into uni to do med
at glasgow, dundee or edinburugh. wanks.

         then, sunday, had shit scared out of me when
my gran had a stroke at home. and I was the only one
there.

so, I put it to the list, that I had one of the
shittest weekends ever, in the history of man.


gotta go. more shit.

see you.

everyone most regularly used dick slap

chris



sorry for list abuse. I 'm just , y'know. upset. can
anyone give me advice ojn the medicine situation? can
you appeal to unis?

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From chris_t_opher at xxx.com  Wed Mar 29 18:06:46 2000
From: chris_t_opher at xxx.com (Chris_t_opher)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 18:06:46 +0100 (GMT/BST)
Subject: Sinister: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:59:33 +0100
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Hello

    I've decided to sit down (makes a change) and write something.

Kenneth said:::
"One of my friends is really uptight about all these things, he
would hate a "townie" to guts even if that guy hasn't done anything
wrong.. but I actually quite admire townies in a way that they can
go to a really bad nightclub and has a good time, which surely shows
great tolerance... but I don't like those who thinks that they have
to wear Ben Sherman shirts to stay alive."

    Firstly, virtually all townies have done something wrong. They're
abusive, obnoxious, impolite and too obsessed with themselves to be nice
people. If i left that paragraph there, i'd get loads of replies saying im
stereotyping. So, i will add that there are probably a few townies who are
ok. I've just never met one.

    Secondly, i like bad nightclubs. Only when i'm drunk, mind. I'm just
amused by bad dancing. Whenever i go out with friends, townies nearly always
want to fight us because we do t o w n i e d a n c i n g. You should try it.
Just pretend you're describing (with the use of your hands only) a big fish,
a smaller fish, two cars colliding and then a small fish again. If you want
a demonstration, you'll have to meet me.

    Oh, and Ben Sherman shirts. I've never had one cos they're not designed
for me. They're designed for short, slightly overweight townies with very
short legs. The *anti-me*, you could say!

    I was think yesterday (makes a chance (again)). I think that girls go on
dates more than boys. And i think i know why. Firstly, girls are more
attractive (sorry damo). But more importantly, there are more shy boys who'd
never ask girls out on dates than vica versa. So, the boys who do have to
confidence to ask girls out get loads of dates with loads of different
girls. But, shy boys dont want to ask girls out. And because it is
(traditionally custom) for boys to ask girls out on dates, these boys dont
get many offers. The only way they do end up on dates is if they are really
really deeply in love and dont feel any embarrassment or if they get asked
out by girls. I cant remember the last time i heard about a girl asking a
boy out on a date tho. Maybe it's because people around here are so
repressed. Or maybe this is the standard formula for "girls+boys+dates".
Anyway, my mind is back in my head so dont be affraid.

Someone who shall remain anonymous said:::
"I first fell in love with B+S when I read the story on the inside cover
of Tigermilk. It was as if their happiness at finding each other was somehow
my own, and even if their music had been terrible (which it is certainly
not!) I would have loved them just for telling me their story."

Have we got ANOTHER winner?
If you're reading this, dear, email me.

    Also, people seem to have started using mIRC commands in their sinister
post.
/me thinks this is utterly pointless and hopes it will stop soon. <ENTER>
Tweelyrics.

    That's me done for a while.....
    Chris_t_opher

PS. Anyone know the broadcast date for the new Peel Session? Knowing my
luck, i probably missed it.






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From Walkn10 at xxx.com  Wed Mar 29 20:59:45 2000
From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:59:45 EST
Subject: Sinister: In response to the general ennui on the list of late..
Message-ID: <94.256a53b.2613bab1@aol.com>

Laura wrote...

<< I've been happy to see other listerines (especially Carolina boys. Rah!) 
 discussing their once a year sports fanaticism that arrives with the NCAA 
 tournament. >>

March Madness is like a gift from Mount Olympus man.  For the UK readers, its 
essentially a month long "world series" of college basketball teams, where 64 
of the "best" teams in the nation compete for the national title.  Its 
knock-down-drag-out-ugly-as-Linda-Tripp-bash-a-thon, with dozens of games 
played each night, and of course one loss and your season is over.  Just 
about everyone fills out their brackets the week after the pairings are 
announced, and this year everyone watched them self-destruct poste-haste.  
This year has been so crazy I can't stand it.  To make a bad picking of a 
bracket worse, Mrs. Llew's blasted Tarheels outlasted me and Todd H.'s (whos 
been absent recently) Maryland Terps and are now in the Final Four.  The 
Terps were young this year, but they still played brilliantly...brilliantly 
enough to beat a certain group of Tarheels by 13 points a few weeks ago!!!!...
ahem.  The Tarheels and Terps both play in ACC Conference too, so our teams 
go head to head several times a year, with the Terps recently getting the 
best of NC...ANYONE REMEMBER TWO 18 POINT LOSSES LAST YEAR?!...right...sorry. 
  If our star player, 6'9 junior forward Terrence Morris, returns next year 
we're easily of the Top 5 teams in the country...hold onto your ass Carolina.
Country song titles are hilarious!  Someone published a book of them awhile 
ago with quite a few winners, such as:

Drop Kick Me Jesus Through the Uprights of Life
The Only Good Years We Had Were the Tires On Your Car
My Dog Was Under Your Car The Night You Backed Out of My Life
Prop Me Up On the Jukebox If I Die
and my favorite...
Is There Life After Death?  Touch My Beer And Find Out

My Top 10 Reasons Why I Like Bobby Fischer has been on the band site for 
awhile but I kept forgetting to mention it.  Bobby Fischer is my man.  
Someone said something great about James Taylor awhile ago, and I give props 
to him.  Anyone who can cover Stephen Foster in free time and make it sound 
better than the original is pretty sweet.
I wonder what this message would look like translated into Ancient Greek.  Is 
there a Greek word for tar?  Terps?  James Taylor?

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From NOGOODNIK at xxx.net  Thu Mar 30 00:08:32 2000
From: NOGOODNIK at xxx.net (christa)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 18:08:32 -0500
Subject: Sinister: already, mutants disguised as humans are walking the streets of Earth City
Message-ID: <003501bf99d3$b4e1a860$bd89fd3f@e44e9>

i think i am obsessed with the Powderpuff Girls.  i was in Target the other
day (*heaven on earth*) and just about cleaned out their Powderpuff Girls
stock.  i got stickers, drinking cups, notebooks, a day planner, pens... i'm
telling you, it was a goldmine!  did you know that they were made by
combining a beaker-full of sugar, spice, and everything nice with Chemical
X?  that darned Professor Utonium, what a kook!  anyway, they kick ass.  and
have a great hair!

i'm getting muy excited about the new B&S album.  now that the weather is
getting warmer, i'm listening to their stuff nonstop again and i've noticed
a marked change in my attitude- much for the better.  and the news about an
upcoming tour ain't too shabby either.  i have a good feeling about this
summer... lots of good records coming out, at least 3 good tours... warm
weather, sexy shoes that show sexy feet... bare shoulders, weekend trips to
the beach... oh, sheesh!  now i'm all in a tizzy and i have 2 more months to
wait!

speaking of tours, someone asked about Cure shows on the east coast?  My Boy
and i are going to the one at merriweather post pavilion on june 17, and
quite possibly the next day in NJ as well.  will anyone else be attending?

i'm so hungry.  cough drops and Chloraseptic aren't very nutrient-rich.
perhaps i should try cooking something instead?!

listcrushworthy,
-christa-

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From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk  Wed Mar 29 17:12:54 2000
From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:12:54 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Kiddie acrobats
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> One day my legs will turn to jelly, and then I'll be sorry.

Yum yum Erica's jelly legs.  When I was younger the only fantasies I could come
up with were entire planets made of FOOOD.  Yum yum yum, chomp chomp chomp.

> News just in -
> I'm going to All Tommorows Parties. I'm so excited, I can't
> wait to stand on the seafront.

Hmm.. visions of Emily Lloyd flashing her knickers in 'Wish You Were Here'.  You
don't want to end up like her, clinging onto a fading star, making occasional
appearances in films that no one sees and being Cynthia Payne.  Glad to hear
you're coming though Erica.   Is someone going volunteer to collect a list of
everyone on the list who's going, like last time?  I'm not.  Sigh, was it really
a year ago that we were an angry mob demanding that Katrina clarify whether we
could take plastic bottles of vodka into the site or not?

Mark C:

> Which reminds me, I don't think I bigged up Youn for sending me a Venn
>diagram of Catholics, homosexuals, uncle Tom Cobbley and all, which won the
>prize even though (or perhaps because) I couldn't figure out what the hell
>was going on. More maths in pop.

To anyone who was wondering, as far as I am aware 'bigged up' is not a
recognised piece of English vernacular.  I think Mark's trying to talk tough.
My flatmate has not been allowed to forget the time his retort to a minicab
driver asking for an extortionate fare: "You're shitting me!".  Anyway, yes.
More maths in pop.

Jim G:

>>I'm excited. As to the whole idea of "retro-sixties", jeez, does it really
matter? I'm of the mind that B&S is in part descendent from those folk-rock
roots anyways. Retro? It doesn't parse for me, the titles and look of the
album still owe to where B&S have been.
    If it is retro-sixties it is in the idea that B&S are musical
descendents of the folk groups of the sixties in the same way that rock of
the fifties grew out of skiffle and country/westen and blues/jazz. You'll
pardon me but I get in a slight sniff when the term retro is used as a
pejorative. Which it can be pejorative in the same way 'camp' is. When
people today try and do camp they usually make a fine mess of it in the same
way people who *try* to 'do' retro stuff end up with a lackluster product.
But there's a difference between "retro" and simply playing folksy music
with a semblance of sixties nostalgia.>>

Yep - agreed that B&S are "in part descendent from those folk-rock roots".  The
folksy thing is what comes naturally to them and it's wonderful.  But as you
say, "there's a difference between "retro" and simply playing folksy music with
a semblance of sixties nostalgia."  The latter is great, the former not so
great.  There's a *danger* that in striving to evolve their sound, broaden their
horizons and escape whatever labels they've been given, bands don't evolve from
within but instead look to emulate 'cooler', fuller styles from the records they
admire in pop history.  This tends to produce records that sound nice and shiny
but ultimately don't matter as much.   There's a fine line between absorbing
influences and wearing them on your sleeves.  That's all.  I'll shut up now.

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From steven.kado at xxx.ca  Thu Mar 30 05:47:32 2000
From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:47:32 -0500
Subject: Sinister: GAH!
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yes,


GAH!


eat it if you don't like it.



the shame of everything is that the two listpeople i tried to rouse are both
unavailable, jill is in the nursery and ben's email account is full.

screw em.

heh heh heh.



i'm terribly affraid i may have stepped in some doo doo by drunkenly trying
to fascillitate a match between a friend and an acquaintance.  i actually
feel awful, really awful about it.
but i feel awful anyway because i have a stomach flu and periodically i have
to run from where i am to where i vacate my bowels (in a little bucket with
a tea towel over it) then i have to run out to the cess pit and get rid of
the whole thing....tsk.  and those orphans keep getting in my way and the
bucket sloshes everywhere.  fucking orphans.

so thanks to llaurallllew for bigging me up to the list....glad to see that
steves are coming up around these parts.

books:  i like proust.  for real, its fine stuff.  i'm on the fourth part
now and its got this neat-o protracted thing with insects fertilizing plants
and gay sex...it rocks. whew.

and also, llllllllauralllllllllllllew...have you even seen ZARDOZ?

 I CHALLENGE ALL LISTMEMBERS TO SEE ZARDOZ!
do it now!  it will change your life.  if only so that if you ever meet sean
connery or john boorman you can blackmail them with the knowledge that
you've seen their worst film ever, the other option is that it will make you
join a cult.

but you won't join the cult, because their drummer ran away to join guns n
roses and has his own signiature line of drumsticks made by easton.  you
might be allowed to join james last's voodoo party band tho'.....now there's
a man who knows his business, that james last, not like the murdoch twat who
goes off writting all this dickslap poopoonaanaa.

try seeing zardoz on a triple bill with persona and santa sangre.  good for
the mind and body! yes.

then play the supermarioland gameboy cartridge and get to the easter island
level....easter island is sad, the small indigenous population live in
settlements that they've errected from the waste produced by the colonial
types, it is ingenious and an example of a no-waste packaging paradigm in
action, unfortuntately its also squalid.  poor easterisland people, at least
they don't have mysterious collosal stone heads plaguing them.....

oh wait.

i promised myself i'd watch twitch city.  but i forgot.
does anyone here know cakewalk proffessional? i have these questions you
see.....

um so this was a big post of nothing, but at least I mentioned murdoch.
ususally i don't get around to that kind of thing.

i hope there are no terribly offended orphans on the list, i meant orphans
in a more dickensian context.


sttttn ktto

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From angel_blackwell at xxx.com  Thu Mar 30 17:30:16 2000
From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (the angel blackwell)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:30:16 EST
Subject: Sinister: kudos to kado
Message-ID: <20000330163016.90212.qmail@hotmail.com>

oh dearies...
this angel is in rough shape today just let me say...my harp is outta tune, 
halo hanging jauntily to the side but tarnished...my white robes have 
martini's all splashed down the front...
i've now joined the ranks of "the silly burkes who run to the mailbox every 
night to see if their schtoopid b&s schtuff has come in post..." the little 
man thinks i'm mad...oh well, when my t and badges come i'll be happier than 
a pig in pyjamas...i just wanted them here for when i go see charlatans next 
week, but that would be too perfect. stereolab are coming back...yay...let's 
hope that laetitia chick don't get food poisoning in boston again or 
whatever...it's bad enough when a band cancels on you, it's worse when their 
buses are parked in the lot of the club their supposed to play...catherine 
wheel are coming too...but the tic's are on sale the day before 
stereolab...and the tax man has taken all me money and then some...but 
they're opening up for sonic youth...odd odd...
thanks to that steven kado boy for making us toronto people seem slightly 
intelligent and cultured...okay he's the only one...
ummm...be nice to debs and diana when they're at the little atp thingy...the 
rest of us are just slightly jealous...they better bring back some good 
singles though...a kiss to struan if you see 'im....
i should be working, all i can think of is broccoli...
a.b.
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From strappingarab at xxx.com  Thu Mar 30 20:10:38 2000
From: strappingarab at xxx.com (robert smith)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:10:38 PST
Subject: Sinister: wonderful birthday presents from splendid friends
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hello


i'm in a smashing mood right now. i got the greatest b&s related prezzie for 
my birthday. ok it was 6 weeks late but i can forgive him because of the 
imagination he's shown. the he is my bestest friend in the world jon sutton, 
and the prezzie was a tigger from the disney store with an empty carton of 
milk attached to it. its tigger milk. geddit?

i'm just going to say la la a few times before i go.

la la la la la la la la la

bye
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From jda349 at xxx.edu  Fri Mar 31 02:58:33 2000
From: jda349 at xxx.edu (Askins, Joseph D. (UMC-Student))
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:58:33 -0600
Subject: Sinister: I've got them stoopid spring break bluuuuues....
Message-ID: <7E34984FE36DD311B4920000E867D06E01EDDF64@tiger-mail02.mizzou.edu>

It's Thursday night, and to paraphrase Douglas Adams, I've reached the long,
dark tea-time of my spring break.  I can't gripe too much, because there's
really no reason why schools should let us run mindlessly free for a whole
week, but coming back to Arkansas for even a few days is enough to send me
packing to the lecture hall.  So what do I do?  I mope around, bugging my
parents and moaning about how dull and redneck Rogers is, what with its
Confederate flags and racist rhetoric.  I wish I were back in my cultured,
civilized world where people know what I mean when I talk about...about...I
dunno.  See, I gripe for nothing, because I can't really think of anything
in particular that's so much different.  

My one escape has been sitting around at Iron Horse, the lone coffee shop
here in town.  Lord, the hours and money I spent at that place the first
year it was open.  It wasn't wonderful--flashy colorful banners and truly
hideous still-lifes from local artists hanging on every wall, watered-down
coffee in the pots, and an early closing time (at least they're open till
10:00 now).  But despite it all, Iron Horse had its patrons, the disaffected
and gloomy youths of Rogers, Arkansas, who congregated inside, talking
comics and reading spoilers for the upcoming Star Wars movie on the computer
in the corner, asking the owner to put on one of his Smiths CDs, etc.  Iron
Horse looks pretty vacant these days, though.  I don't know the girls behind
the bar, and the few kids from the old gang who still bother to show up are
off working nine-to-fives at Dairy Queen and mumbling half-heartedly of the
day when they might decided to enroll (part-time, of course) at the
community college in town.  Seeing these sad cases only makes me long even
more for Columbia, where I can hold out for three more years under my
security blanket of loans and scholarships and parents' money until I join
them in the ever-expanding world of minimum-wage fast-food service.  

Still, things aren't all bad.  I'm convinced that the IRS gets a bad rap,
because I had a beautiful brown check for a whopping $400 waiting for me
when I got home.  God bless tax returns (and my parents, who still claim me
as a dependent).  Seeing as how I'm not having to make any major payments
these days--a couple outstanding parking tickets, perhaps, but nothing too
life-threatening--I've been able to spend the week blowing dough at music
stores.  Got a couple obligatory Bowie CDs to fill out my collection, along
with some Roxy Music, Eno, Rachel's, One Last Wish, Philip Glass, Tortoise
(found both their self-titled AND "Millions Living.." in a used bin today!)
Philip Glass, and a used boot of B&S's BBC performances, which is probably
the closest I'll ever get to seeing B&S live, seeing as how I don't really
see them coming through Columbia, Lawrence, KC or St. Louis on their next
tour.  The girl who sold me the boot said that she had heard OF the band,
but hadn't actually HEARD them.  I recommended their albums and went on my
way.  Maybe she'll give it a shot.  Either way, I suppose it was my good
turn for the day.

Other than all that, break has been all about movies and books.  Finally saw
"The Sixth Sense" right before the Oscars and was pleasantly impressed--much
more than some pop thriller crap.  Hope that kid goes far.  Had the
so-called "shocking" ending predicted months ago (same with the big
hullaballoo with "Fight Club"--can't people figure this stuff out from the
plot summary alone???), but thankfully it wasn't some gimmick flick riding
on its last minute.  Rented "Eyes Wide Shut," another one I looked forward
to all spring/summer and never saw.  Brilliant stuff, yet I can see why some
people were turned off.  Give it a few years--people will remember it.  What
else...oh yeah..."The Manchurian Candidate."  Holy Cow!  I mean, I knew
Sinatra was supposed to be a decent actor, but what a film!  And to think
that it was almost forgotten for over two decades.  Giving Saul Bellow's "To
Jerusalem and Back" another shot.  I tried reading it once before and it
just seemed...naively preachy...if you get my meaning.  Still, Bellow is a
master of words, and it's a great read.  His fiction is better, but
"Jerusalem" is miles beyond a lot of the stuff that's out there.

Sunday comes quickly, and with it, the last four weeks of school.  Sigh.
Don't even get me started on that... 

Joseph Askins 

  
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From Pulpbot at xxx.com  Fri Mar 31 03:57:54 2000
From: Pulpbot at xxx.com (Pulpbot at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:57:54 EST
Subject: Sinister: me and my stupid epileptic fits
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Sperm donors,

Someone mentioned the outstanding Jim O'Rourke ep ... I bought it just for 
the title, which does seem to be a mathematical impossibility since there's 
no halfway to three people except 1.5 so, what does he have, himself and a 
women's torso? Math majors, help me out here. I'm not I could get into a 
three-way with body parts missing, unless of course I still had the arms of 
sex.
Yep, that's all I had to say in my annual post. 
Jennifer
 
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From bbaron at xxx.edu  Fri Mar 31 07:31:46 2000
From: bbaron at xxx.edu (Bradley Kenneth Baron)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 00:31:46 -0600
Subject: Sinister: Behold! Alas! Lo!
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Lo! I drank lager! Alas! I had a holiday! Behold! my lager was had in a pub while on holiday! Verily! I am from America! But
"beer" "vacation" and "bar" are so un-European! Lo! Belle and Sebastian are European! Back to the telly!

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From iwh at xxx.com  Fri Mar 31 09:10:19 2000
From: iwh at xxx.com (Halliday, Ian)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:10:19 +1200
Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V4 #102
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Scampi has been reading scientific books about it, but I remember well
one piece of psychobabble I read a long time ago. It said that if I
could make a woman laugh, I could get her into bed.
Why didn't anybody tell me this years earlier? When I think of all the
opportunities I missed before I was married.
Still, twelve years later, I can say it was well worth it. Honey will
put his head in his hands and say "so he never did change" and that's
true, from a certain point of view.

Ian
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From the_gibber at xxx.com  Fri Mar 31 12:28:08 2000
From: the_gibber at xxx.com (Ian McKinney)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:28:08 BST
Subject: Sinister: The Digital Revolution
Message-ID: <20000331112808.28147.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hello Folks,
Ah, the digital age. A couple of weeks ago my dad got sky digital for all 
the sport channels. Being a techno-sceptic at heart, I had my doubts. But 
then I found a really grate channel, M2, dedicated to all things indie and 
groovie. What's more, you can go to their website and program an hour of 
videos! Yes, your own hour long music program! So, go to www.m2europe.com 
regularly until my program is scheduled. It WILL be. Oh yes. An hour of B&S, 
Joy Division, Pixies etc etc.

Afore ye go, I must comment on the show I saw last night. Sigur Ros were 
undoubtedly the most moving band I have ever seen. Never before has a band 
literally brought tears to my eyes. Then godspeed ybe played. A HUGE band. 
epic soundscapes and what have you, but I was so drunk by the time they came 
on, their set is a bit of a blur. I just spent the hour eyes closed, swaying 
gently.

Anyhoo, that's my two cents.
Bye,
Ian.
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From ol01 at xxx.uk  Fri Mar 31 11:56:24 2000
From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:56:24 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: The Ballad of Sad Cafe
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10003311130580.6942-100000@gromit.students.stir.ac.uk>

strange things afoot

had a tutorial this morning and one of the guys in the class was arguing
that all criminals should be kept in prison until they have been
rehabilitated by brainwashing methods (he was serious not just talking for
the sake of it) and that if they could not be rehabilitated then they
should just be killed cos it's expensive to keep them locked up. Obviously
I spent most of the tutorial taking the piss out of him and making sure
that everyone was laughing at him, which was good cos one particularly
cute girl who I'd never talked to before found me particularly amusing and
talked to me for a while afterwards. What's the point of this story, well
someone was just talking about being able to take to bed anyone who you
can make laugh, I am planning to test this theory.

went shopping yesterday and found a copy of the flaming lips' soft
bulletin for 7 pound. I'm  mightily dissapointed with it, best album of
99? no chance. "Did anyone else have their life changed by the flaming
lips?" asked stuart at the bowlie, well they must be a lot better live
than they are on that record (though I did quite like some of their
earlier stuff). Anyway, the other thing I wanted to rant about was the
Virgin store in Stirling, no Godspeed You Black Emperor, no Go Kart
Mozart, in fact nothing that I wanted to buy except ridiculously pricey
stuff. for example a Sparklehorse EP for only 10 pound, or how about 8
track sound system by fonda 500, last week it was 12 pound, this week they
decided to sell it for 16, cunts.

do I sound a bit uptight, oh dear, probably something to do with the
30,000 words that I have due in in the next month, well I've got a week
off now so I'm gonna (hopefully) do the two 6,000 word essays that I have
while at home. This will have two effects, 1) I will be away from uni and
thus computerless so you luckythings won't have to put up with me for a
while. 2) I will have three weeks to write an 18,000 word dissertation
when I get back, oh shit.

before I go 'd just like to remind you all that the Pastels said (and it's
true) that
"every smile is the promise of sex on a sunny day"

love and smiles
   owen

With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in
a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon


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From mickcooke at xxx.com  Fri Mar 31 18:34:43 2000
From: mickcooke at xxx.com (mickcooke at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:34:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: Amphetameanies gigs
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Here's details of two forthcoming Amphetameanies gigs:

Saturday 1st April
The Royal Sword
Stirling

In the shadow of the Wallace Monument, Scotland's scooterboy clans gather for what promises to be something of an event (though non-scooter types are most welcome). Proceeds to Leukemia Research. 

Doors open around 7pm
First band on around 8.30pm
Meanies onstage around 9.00pm
Dancing continues after.
Tickets no more than four or five quid, we think.  


Thursday 13th April
Nice'n'Sleazy
Sauchiehall Street
Glasgow

Playing with two French bands, The Informers and Burning Heads (on Epitaph). Entry �3  


Cheers,

Mick


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From feather-boa at xxx.com  Fri Mar 31 20:10:14 2000
From: feather-boa at xxx.com (feather boa)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:10:14 -0800
Subject: Sinister: fringe benefits.
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i thought this might cheer people up a bit.

i lost my virginity (to a man!!!) while watching debbie does dallas (1 and 2), so that i could learn how to give a blow job.  is it any wonder i'm gay? *s*

um, and i bought my brother a magnetic "dress-me lenin" for his birthday, and the makers were called bear, bear and bear ltd, which i thought was strange.

and i just got a fringe cut so i feel like a proper b&s fan now.

pip pip,

FB

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From LNino at xxx.com  Fri Mar 31 21:17:40 2000
From: LNino at xxx.com (LNino at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:17:40 -0800
Subject: Sinister: Les Anomalies
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Hi:

My name is Juno, that's a pseudnym, although I haven't really decided. Why
must one have a pseudonym when one writes? because "shyness is nice, but
shyness can stop you, from doing all the things in life you'd like to"..
I'm a writer, a real one (which doesn't mean I'm any good) only that a lot
of people call themselves writers and they don't really do that.. they write
the ocasional piece, poem or story on a cool notebook and adopt this
intellectual pose and enter the coffee shops to feel interesting..
I say I'm a real writer because that's what I do all the time, yes I do have
the cool notebooks too.. hundreds of them, diaries and computer files with
my, what I call 30 second poems.. 
I don't judge my stuff, I can't publish, even though I've been asked to.. I
hardly ever show anything around.. I have an annonymous page somewhere in
the web universe, probably someone has trampled over it.. and been nice
about it.
Anyway. This is my first post to the list, I get the digest and sometimes I
can't give myself the luxury to read the whole thing because I get it at
work.. I scan it for some B&S content, but It's nice to find people that are
like me..
I work in a corporate monster...(oh yes, boo to the business world) I have
my cubicle all plastered with cute phrases and pictures, mexican
handcrafts.. and i fight with all i've got the hideous musical environment
here..
Lately I listen to Autour de lucie (cause i'm studying french..so sing
alongs help) Hood, Cat power, and went back to morrissey for a bit...

This story is repetitive.. but I live in mexico.. and it's IMPOSSIBLE to
find a single soul who knows of, likes or even conceives a band called Belle
& Sebastian.. what the hell am I doing here? who knows..but the thing is I
got Tigermilk thanks to Chris (Boo to the business world), The boy with the
arab strap on a quick trip to L.A. 
and the rest on a crappy tape.. 
Do any of you have rare stuff like MP3's or something we can share? not only
B&S but the Gentle waves, looper and all those wonderful bands that are on
Jeepster? 
Anyone knows where I could find some sound files? for my personal use only..
since I'm alone in this country.. literally.

Ok. It's nice to read the digest, there's so much to talk about.. there's so
much to be done while our head's are still young..

bye.
Juno.
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From ol01 at xxx.uk  Fri Mar 31 21:58:03 2000
From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:58:03 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Sinister: mick cookes timing with music is better than his timing with
 anouncements.
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10003312144380.28966-100000@gromit.students.stir.ac.uk>

me again I'm affraid.
just a few comments.

Mick popped up to say
Here's details of two forthcoming Amphetameanies gigs:

Saturday 1st April
The Royal Sword
Stirling

hmmmm the amphetameanies playing a gig exactly 200 yards from where I stay
at uni, maybe I should go along,
oh bugger no
they come on stage at exactly the time that I will be leaving Stirling in
order to go back to my horrid home town for a week. This can mean only one
thing, one of the glasgow lot is gonna have to put me up and put up with
me when they play nice n sleazy's. Kind offers greatfully  (or even
GRATEfully) received.

feather boa said
i lost my virginity (to a man!!!) while watching debbie does dallas (1 and
2),
so that i could learn how to give a blow job.  is it any wonder i'm gay?
*s*

which made me think of two questions
1) if she had to lose her virginity to a guy why couldn't it have been a
nice guy like she deserved rather than someone who had her watch that in
order to gain the necessary skills?
2) When does a lesbian lose her virginity?
oh and a third question
3) why do I think of these stupid questions?

OK you can relax now, have a good week without me.
love
    owen

PS. to the girl who made me smile,
 a kiss,
 dark and long,
 you know who you are.


With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in
a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon


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From chickfactor at xxx.uk  Fri Mar 31 23:06:11 2000
From: chickfactor at xxx.uk (brenda milton-bradley)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:06:11 -0800
Subject: Sinister: i'll give YOU a "handcarved coffin" you hollywood losers!
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