From margarita at xxx.com  Wed Nov  1 03:29:18 2000
From: margarita at xxx.com (triumphant loser)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 21:29:18 -0600
Subject: Sinister: buses, b&s, and my gender identity crisis
References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.1000602090544.24976A-100000@mustang>
Message-ID: <001701c043b3$ebad8b40$668ffacf@oemcomputer>

I think the day you described is a rather....trying one. I think its just a
day though....to say one is good or bad is too general and kind.I mean what
about those days you just feel so-so or blaahhhhh?Like my mother says "Just
ride it out " no use getting uptight about it.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimberly Rehak <rehakk at xxx.edu>
To: <sinister at missprint.org>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 7:22 AM
Subject: Sinister: buses, b&s, and my gender identity crisis


>
> boo,
>
> i'm trying to decide if i'm having a good or a bad morning so far.  maybe
> someone can help me out:
>
> 1 mum drives me to the busstop since i'm late (as usual) and informs me
> that i must be having a gender identity crisis because i didn't dry my
> hair this morning (no time, again) and i had my hands in my pocket "like a
> boy".  i could go on and on about the things she said but i'll just leave
> it at that-the g-g-g-gist.
> 1.5 cried for 15 minutes at busstop/busride.
> 2 beautiful boy on the bus keeps staring at me whilst we are in transit.
> 3 freaky man with the hearing aids who looks like a child molester sits
> beside me and also keeps looking at me.
> 3.5 am listening to b&s for the first time in a Really long time.
> 4 now i'm at work and i just spilled coffee all over me.
>
> <sigh>
>
> i don't know what to do.
>
> hello to everyone new and old and to those who cry on buses (like me) and
> to those in germany (like me soon) and to those who dry their hairs in the
> morning (who are so much better than me-ha!) and to those going to
> beantown today.
>
> xo, kimmy
>
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From margarita at xxx.com  Tue Nov 14 01:44:51 2000
From: margarita at xxx.com (triumphant loser)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:44:51 -0600
Subject: Sinister: Pucker up, here comes a reply
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Message-ID: <002501c04ddc$7b8f32e0$ac8ffacf@oemcomputer>

I would have to agree with you on the Smiths video's.....simply horrible,
with the exception of that movie that goes along with The queen is dead.The
one i own is The complete picture, it takes place for the most part in some
terrible 80's dance club with red and blue lights(shudder).I dont know what
vid of theirs gets my vote, perhaps How soon is now....the wonderful blue
tint is quite lovely.


----- Original Message -----
From: nessa <nessamalone at xxx.net>
To: Sinister List <sinister at missprint.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 2:36 PM
Subject: Sinister: writing frightening verse to a bucktooth gurl in
luxembourg *smiths quote subject line no 345732*


> 1: nessa has a whinge
>
> I'm feeling a wee bit down for some reason I don't really understand. my
> exams are nearly finished and its officially summer. It could have
something
> to do w/ the fact I haven't gotten any non mailing list mail in about 2
> weeks. I'm putting a hex on people who haven't e mailed me back in yonks
as
> I type. Plus I haven't gotten post in days. Or many phone calls. And god
it
> makes me feel miserable.
>
> I saw the video for the delgados' american trilogy last night. they're
very
> into the cycling thing still, most bands w/ outside obsessions lose them
> after the first album. I'm impressed. I got a video of Smiths videos for
> xmas and I was really disappointed w/ it, I watched it for the first time
> today. b+s have the knack of epitomising the song in their videos, or they
> used to. I haven't seen the one for legal man yet. anyway, most of the
> videos the smiths did didn't. the video for Ask was probably pretty trendy
> looking at the time but the kleidung etc made me cringe now.
>
> 2: nessa get confus-sed
> >he has his septum pierced
>
> when I read that first I thought of the septum of the heart rather than
the
> septum of the nose. It took me a minute to realise what she meant.
> Apparantly someone who used to be in eastenders has no more septum due to
> too much of the white stuff. And thats not flour.
>
> and, ehh, what the fuck is an ampallang? do I want to know?
>
> nessa
>
>
>
>
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From JENOWL22 at xxx.com  Wed Nov  1 22:37:17 2000
From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 17:37:17 EST
Subject: Sinister: All kinds of everything
Message-ID: <c4.b11057f.2731f51d@aol.com>

Hewwo,

Ooh, lots of things have been happening to me.

I got punched in the face by a hard kid, because I tried to answer her back.

I went to a wild and mental party, and drank lots of rum. I stayed up nearly 
all night (except for the part where I passed out and when I woke up it was 
dark and I had to use a light up vibrator thingy as a torch). 

I made everyone look at the friend bear website by using my feminine wiles to 
take over the computer and delete all the porn. I also went out in the rain, 
and there was a lot of alcohol. And I got a three-day hangover which was not 
pleasant.

 And I played strip chess, but the cunning plan was that I beat everyone and 
they all got naked and I didn't, because I decided to make up the rules which 
meant that everyone took their clothes off except me because I was too 
embarassed and all the boys wore nightdresses. Which was grate fun. In a sort 
of sick way. 

There was a boy called Ross there, and he went paralytic and his mum marched 
round to the house for him and he tried to come on to her, because he ws so 
drunk.

On Hallow'een, I dressed up as Little Red Riding Hood (cause I have my cape 
hee hee), and it was fun, though I had to hide from some hard kids who wanted 
to beat me up for dressing up (because they didn't understand that it was 
Hallow'een).

Also in special honour of Hallow'een I brought a wand to school, but someone 
masturbated with it in computing class (and the teacher looked like he was 
going to join in) so now I'm not so sure about wands and school.

I put myself up for auction in the B&S thing, but I don't think anyone's 
bidded (is that a word)  for me yet...

I'm also making my very own website on angelfire. But until then the 
temporary thingy is at www.expages.com/mmmhowqueer. It's very pants and has 
only one page, but it's because everyone's been nagging at me to get 
something put up while i'm making the thing. I'm utterly useless with 
computers, so it's really moke-ish.

I think Stuart Murdoch would taste like butterscotch if you ate him. And 
Isobel Campbell would taste of vanilla. And Chris Geddes would taste of dark 
chocolate. And Mick Cooke would taste of strawberry jam. And Sarah Martin 
would taste of ready salted crisps. And Stevie Jackson would taste of eggs. 
And Richard Colburn would taste of those little jelly lips you used to get 
that tasted a bit like shampoo.

I will go now,

Hugs,
Jen





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From rclander at xxx.net  Thu Nov  2 05:25:54 2000
From: rclander at xxx.net (rclander at xxx.net)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 05:25:54 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Various Shit
Message-ID: <200011020525.eA25PrE55490@rabin.netfront.net>

Excuse the title line but its a quote from Neil Robertson as you can see the 
news item from the new NME which I have copied below.

Richard


Stuart Murdoch has directed the video for the new V-Twin single 'Thank You 
Baby'. Filming work was completed yesterday (Thursday) on the video which was 
widely rumoured to be 'bawdy' and to feature 'girls'.
When quizzed on what the video was about V-Twin's manager, Neil Robertson 
said: "I can't tell you - because I don't know. And I'm in it. It's just 
various shit. We don't want to make too much of Stuart doing it. It's just that 
he's the only person we know who'll do it for nothing."

"It does feature girls. But the bawdiness is all off camera," he revealed.

'Thank You Baby' is released on August 3rd on vinyl and CD.



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From Simiansurvival at xxx.com  Thu Nov  2 05:40:28 2000
From: Simiansurvival at xxx.com (Simiansurvival at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 00:40:28 EST
Subject: Sinister: vote for miles
Message-ID: <36.d6f36fa.2732584c@aol.com>

come with me 
let's get together in my comic strip
let's talk in bubbles
let's go
ARSE!!
and
POO!!
forget your troubles and go
SMUT!!
BASTARD!!
PISS!!

heh heh. gainsbourg in english is fun. i need to find a copy of eugenie 
solokov, i hear it's great. only gainsbourg would write a book about fart 
art. 

i'm so pissed, no record shop in st louis has gotten the new high llamas CD 
yet. my girlfriend also got sick today, poor girl... it was her first day off 
in quite a few days, too. 

****BELLE AND SEBASTIAN CONTENT****
i haven't listened to them in ages.

i don't think i have been this bored in ages. 
see you folks later, i'm off to play with my tape library and make avant 
garde soundscapes, hee hee.

adios
mike j

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From shewitt at xxx.uk  Thu Nov  2 10:05:19 2000
From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt)
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 10:05:19 +0000
Subject: Sinister: secret plan, shhhhhhhhh
Message-ID: <3A013C5F.76DCEBE6@ruskin.ac.uk>

OK, don't tell anyone, but i've got a secret plan for the auction, to
bid for all the members of the band and then get them together at the
same time and magically produce some instruments and get them to DO A
GIG FOR ME!!!  GRATE idea, eh?

Unfortunately no one has bid(ded) (bud?) for me yet, despite the promise
of food, dancing and BOUZE, FOR NOTHING, and my company for an evening. 
What more could a young person ask for?  Although I'd be a bit scared if
Jen won me, I don't think i could stand the pace at the sort of parties
she goes to...

My local friendly independant record shop is very naughty, they had the
Genital Waves single for sale on Saturday, despite the fact that it was
not out til monday.

I'm getting very excited about GOING TO NUDE YORK, i have bought $$$ and
everything.  Me and MrsCarsmile are going to be very touristy.  Mrs
Carsmile bought a book called "born to shop new york" which is very
scary, as it is written by a mad old woman who is always going on about
discount stores and not paying full price for anything and how <cough>
"funky" SoHo is and stuff.  She also goes on about NikeTown, but all i
want to do there is piss on it.  BOO, nasty niketown.

I saw the WORST BAND EVER the other nite.  They are called Queen
Adreena, avoid them children, they smell, badly.

Did someone mention weblogs?

xoxo
CarsmileSteve

PS I know what Lixi's middle name is, teehee
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From imn_uk at xxx.uk  Thu Nov  2 12:19:23 2000
From: imn_uk at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?nicolson=20ian?=)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:19:23 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: People always bored me anyway
Message-ID: <20001102121923.2684.qmail@web4302.mail.yahoo.com>

Hardly any posts at all on All Saints Day - were you
all in church?  I understand that it might have been
difficult for those in England to actually get to a
computer, or maybe your computers have drowned, but
where were the rest of you?  Did you all have mad
Hallowe'en parties and were unable to stand staring at
flickery computer screens yesterday?
Just out of interest, after all that mad weather darn
sarf of late, is Autumn still allowed to be Sinister's
favourite season?  Of course some folks have come up
with a marvellous idea to ensure that the weather
doesn't get even worse in future years - cheaper
petrol! Hmm...

I'm currently recovering from a job interview of sorts
that I had this morning, which was the first proper
real life thing that I've done in months.  I've
decided that now is a good time to make the least of
my talents and take on a temporary job for a few
months which enables me to put off making any big
decisions for a bit longer.  This might not be the
right thing to do, but heck, I've made an artform out
of making the wrong decisions!  I've worked in this
place before, during summer breaks from university,
and then it was enough just to exist and have a bank
account for them to give you a job, but today I had to
do all kinds of mad tests on computers and stuff.  I
was expecting that they'd just want to make sure I
could hold a pencil.  "Jings!" I thought, "perhaps I
should have thought about this". I mean, many
oragnutangs could do the work if they put their minds
to it.  Not chimpanzees, though.  Too boisterous. 
What made it worse was that I was wearing my smart
shoes, which although fantastic, make me walk like a
girl and hurt my feet very much indeed, so I'm kind of
hobbling around at the moment.

But, hey!, that's enough about me.  What have you been
up to?  Talking about Christmas songs from time to
time (or is that passe now?).  'O Come O Come
Emmanuel' was always more of an advent hymn than a
Christmas one in my book, although I could be
splitting hairs there.  But it was always one of my
faves as it is generally one of the first
Christmassy-type songs sung in churches two or three
weeks before Christmas, which made it dead exciting. 
Flicking through my hymn book I notice that there are
five verses - will they do them all?  If so verse four
has a very poor rhyme indeed and for smuttiness, then
wait until you hear the first line of verse two! 
Oo-er!

It seems very odd indeed to be writing of Christmas
songs when it hardly seems like any time at all since
I was listening to poets in tents during the summer. 
Time's running and passing (etcetera...)  November
late afternoons in Edinburgh are so atmospheric.  The
low sun catches and illuminates the tenements and
tower-blocks of Leith.  It gets even better if the
weather's bad.  I'm feeling all Astral Weeks.

Fill the rest in yourselves...

Bye.


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From Carmen.Aad at xxx.uk  Thu Nov  2 12:16:43 2000
From: Carmen.Aad at xxx.uk (Aad, Carmen)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:16:43 -0000 
Subject: Sinister: First post - shitting myself!
Message-ID: <216C3F1596F8D2119F5100508B2C36BD0142B92B@AUDI>

Hi All

I'm really pleased today because I received my original copy of Tigermilk in
the post - I bought it on Ebay.  I'm dead excited as I decided to start
collecting B&S stuff a few months ago and this is by far the best piece in
my collection.  Hooray!!!!

Well, what a miserable day but I couldn't care less because I'm in one of
those moods where I can't be arsed to do any work.  This is my first message
to the list even though I have been on it for some time.  I really love
reading all your posts!  I work in the music industry and have been in to
all sorts of music for ages but have never been so into a band as much as
Belle and Sebastian.  Every now and then I'll make people in the office
listen to them.  Everyone here claims to hate them (which is good because I
get all the B&S freebies when they come in the post).  In this office they
have been nicknamed Bell-end and Semen or Bob and Sharon!  But I know they
love them really.

There's not much else to say - I live in London and will be going to that
new indie night Strange Fruit on Saturday, it sounds wicked - thanks for the
flyer, whoever sent it.  My favourite album is IYFS.  And I really love the
new album.  It gets better and better each time I listen to it.  The Model
is a beautiful song.  Wicked lyrics and vocals!!!

Thanks for reading!!

Ta-ra x x x x 

Carmen
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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Thu Nov  2 11:11:11 2000
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:11:11 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Great Spangled Froddtillary
Message-ID: <002b01c044ca$77363e20$6a69243e@itjfvkli>

Sorry to hear about Nick Drake being dead. Let's hope he gets well soon. A
couple of cider armadilloes and he'll be right as rain.

Some time ago someone recommended the "Golden Age of American Rock'n'Roll"
series. I bought volume 8 the other day and I think it's a bit girlish. I'm
going to take it back and change it for "Big Soul Bastards" or something.
Although it does have a track by The Pastels on it, which is considerably
better than their 80s output. I suppose it might grow on me, but I'm not
going to give it a chance.

We went over 24 hours without a post, surely a record? I blame weblogs.

Me and Jordi went to see "Dancer in the Dark" at the weekend, admittedly on
different days, at different times, and probably at different cinemas, but
that's not the point. I bet Jordi cried more than me. People cried so much I
had to cling to a giant popcorn that floated by, otherwise I would have
drownded in the sea of love.

Is it Gentle Waves release day? That should keep the list busy for an hour
or two. Or at least it would have done in the past. Wait a minute, it's
Thursday, not Monday.

Have a great time in New York, Steve. Don't forget to go and see that
picture of The Foxgloves in action. Obviously you'll have to clamber over
the swooning lumberjacks to get to it. If you hear someone shout "TIMBER!!!"
get out of the way sharpish, or one might fall on you and you'll have to
spend the rest of your holiday underneath a lumberjack.

I see Stan from The Housemartins has started working with Basil Brush. And
somehow that really impressed me.

Sister Disco - owner of a lonely weblog

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From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk  Thu Nov  2 11:43:23 2000
From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:43:23 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: A SeNsE oF BeLonGinG...
Message-ID: <20001102114323.10056.qmail@web3006.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello the land of sinistah...

As usual starting a post without having the slightest
idea what to WriTe...
It's been quite a HeCtiC TiMe...
I've got a new amplifier now for my stereo since my
old one has ExPLoDeD from the inside without me
realising it... and a new VcR... oh yes, and no money!
There's a weird bloke outside my office door; he has
fluffy ginger hair and wears big glasses... his jaw
seems to be a bit outside making him look like an aged
PoPeYe... mmmm...
The other day I was having my afternoon nap when I
woke up by my doorbell... I opened the door and saw
this little boy, he must be around 8 years old,
standing in front of me saying that we had got a fire
in the building... and he was right... it smelled like
something was burning and there was a lot of SmOkE and
everything... I told him that someone had obviously
burnt their food... he seemed really scared as he was
all alone in their flat... so, I calmed him down a bit
and we went checking in every floor of our building
and also the basement... we found nothing so he went
back to his appartment and I went back to my bed...
shortly after that, the door bell woke me up again...
the little boy was standing at my doorstep... "I
called the fire department", he said... "did you?" I
asked... "cool"... so we went downstairs waiting for
the FiRe EnGiNe to arrive... so it did...
'twas a nice shiny ReD FiRe EnGiNe with all its lights
and sirens on... the FiReMeN came in with torches and
helmets and everything and they started looking
around.. it seems that a woman on the third floor fell
asleep and burnt whatever she was cooking... she also
seemed quite pissed off... we left... the boy and I
were poking each other and giggling behind the
firemen's back...
That was last week...
Some days ago, the same boy came knocking on my
door... he wanted me to help him with his english
homework... I did... then, the next day he came back
with some more homework... and when we were done with
his homework, he saw my paintings on the walls and
wanted me to paint something for him for his art
class... I said that wouldn't be nice... he left...
Yesterday, someone knocked on my door again... I went
to answer that totally pissed off as they had woken me
up again... and I saw a BoUqUeT of WiLd FLoWeRs tied
up together with some plastic tape lying down on my
doorstep... I looked around... noone... I picked up
the flowers... and then I heard someone giggling... I
saw the little boy hiding at the top of the stairs...
I thanked him... that was really the sweetest thing
anyone had done for me in ages... besides Laura Llew's
grandmother's crocheted bookmark!
It was just unbelievably sweet... little John and his
bouquet of wild flowers made my day, no, my week
actually...
Thome-KidA-Yorke seems to indulge new ways of
marketing... in the band's website there are stuff
written by him for NadeR... what does Yorke has to do
with american politics I wonder... I just guess he
came up with this to promote radiohead's new album...
I never liked Radiohead... they're too...
predictable... too catchy in an indie way, if you know
what I mean...
Joan of Dark seems to adopte nice writting styles...
too bad it's all done in the past...
the past that she condemns to utter destruction...
talking about revolution and stuff... I'm sick and
tired of listening to people talking about revolution,
sucking it like some sort of comforting CaRaMeL, not
really knowing what they're talking about...
Dear Joan of Dark - quite a nice goth name by the way
- didn't you know that the first step to submission is
deprive people of their past? and let them sink into
oblivion?
mmmm...
JenOwL wrote that if we could eat Stuart Murdoch he'd
taste like BuTTeRsCotCh!! yum! I do love BuTTeRsCotCh!
I think that if we could smell Stuart, he'd smell like
AutUmN LeAVeS after the RaiN... he's an autumn guy
definetely...
Laura LLew 
where are you?
I miss you so much
and there's no catch
just come to the lighthouse 
to kill the kitchen mouse
it's been running around
its colour's shitty brown
and I'm so afraid
I can't be brave
when you're not with me
the mouse's running free!!
Sorry, I know that was silly... but I hope it brought
another smile on Laura's lips... you see Joan of Dark,
bringing a smile on Laura's lips is a really
revolutionary act!! and I'm not messing...
  
 hugs,
 VG xxx


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From Joe.Ballard at xxx.uk  Thu Nov  2 14:09:32 2000
From: Joe.Ballard at xxx.uk (Joe.Ballard at xxx.uk)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:09:32 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Sex Dwarf
Message-ID: <OF7B2F6271.674613EA-ON8025698B.0049E775@ARCADIAGROUP.CO.UK>

Hey Listerines!

It's my second-to-last-day at my hateful job and ***HEY*** I'm as happy as
a toad in the hole.  Infact I'm the happiest toad in the whole hole! Jobs
are pretty much all hateful - I know - but there's something delicious
about having a new job, just like nu shooz and grate new albums.

Gratest new album (even though it's nigh-on twenty years old) has to be
Soft Cell 'Non-Stop Erotic Cabaret'.  Bought it last week and it's the
dog's whiskers! It even has a song on it called 'sex dwarf' that is
*actually* about a sex dwarf. Obviously you knew where you stood in them
days. (Yeah - about three feet tall and dressed top to toe in black rubber.
Arf!)

These days I find everything dead confusing and regularly forget where and
how I stand.  This is why I subscribe to la list de la Sinistere.  I luv my
list cos: It's a non-stop stream of stridently uncommon sense in a world
that has turned into a pasty tasteless mush.  It's oh-so global (hello New
Zealand!) yet pushes on all your local buttons (i.e. the buttons in your
heart labelled Belle & Sebastian).  And it gives us all relief from
death-by-spreadsheet at work / death-by-essay at college / death-by-Lara
Croft at home and is SO much better than rubbish Fwd jokes and chain
letters and often even the telly.  And it allows me to impress my friends
by talking knowledgeably about (for example) the Magnetic Fields even
though I've only heard ONE of their songs. AND it's a wonderful way to make
new friends.  Hello new friends!

                               ***CONTENT***
There can be no real content because as far as I can see there's nothing
really going on, but....... I was looking at the luvverly piccies of Isobel
in Select magazine and I thought "Hang on just a minute!" cos all the pics
were of the left side of her visage and isn't that a trifle vain a la
Mariah "Scary" Carey?  But happily I was wrong cos if you look harder
there's one of her *right* side too, and that's just as luvverly as the
left one, so all is well and I will sleep soundly tonight.
                           ***END OF CONTENT***

Well that's it.  I've run out.

Keep the fun coming!

luv JOE x

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From sburon at xxx.fr  Thu Nov  2 14:00:42 2000
From: sburon at xxx.fr (St=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?=phane Buron)
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 15:00:42 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Christmas
In-Reply-To: <200010251629.RAA28384@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <B627321A.2403%sburon@club-internet.fr>

Just a quick note to let you know that "it's a cool cool Christmas" can be
pre-ordered on the XFM website, (http://www.xfm.co.uk), only for people
leaving in England and Ireland though... Everyone can pre-order it through
Amazon, too... 

Cheers

Stéphane - http://www.chez.com/tweeclub


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From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk  Thu Nov  2 14:43:38 2000
From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:43:38 -0000
Subject: Sinister: I'm just off to bid in the auction...
Message-ID: <3A017D99.9072.7B3F8D@localhost>

Hello

	I haven't been doing much recently, just getting wet and 
catching colds. The little town of Bewdley, where I live, is on telly all 
the time at the moment, because it's flooded, and there's a man 
there who's put his furniture on stilts, apparently. Ah, you see, we 
haven't forgotten these country crafts. We remember the days of 
table-leg tax, when stilts were all the rage. My little town is a 
backward place really, but it's always on telly when it floods. I think 
it's because Steve Lee, the sports reporter lives there. And Rusty 
Lee (no relation) too . The only other time we're on telly is when 
lions escape from the safari park, or all their monkeys have to be 
shot to contain an epidemic of monkey fever. It's true - they shot 
150. Bastards.

	I went to a talk yesterday, given by a Japanese lady. She kept 
talking about her friend who lives in "my chest hair". That's my 
chest hair near Leeds, apparently.


	Life would be much easier if I wasn't a biscuit. I go a bit soggy 
around the edges sometimes, especially in this weather.

Robin.
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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Thu Nov  2 13:59:35 2000
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 13:59:35 +0000
Subject: Sinister: I know where the jumpers go
Message-ID: <200011021356.NAA10158@missprint.org>

...on me, that's where they go!

Hi all,

It's gone so king cold lately, and rainy and windy, a bit mokey, if 
you ask me.  I should be in bed with a cup of tea, or a sexy girly, 
but unfortunately I don't drink tea, and I am not a fan of tea, I 
guess tea is not my cup of tea, and I don't know any sexy girly, who 
will sleep with me.  I like my girlies like I like my tea, covered in 
beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.

(Is this when you know that Ken's on drugs?)

But yeah it has been king cold and windy, I was supposed to see Placebo 
last Monday and the moke wind has blown some things off the ceiling of 
"Rock City" (aka Cocke Schitty), and they had to cancel the funking 
thing.

Then I went out the other night and got far too drunk, and the next day 
I have totally messed up in bowling and let my team down.. doh I must 
stop drinking so much.

That aside.. things are looking slightly up from before, I'm starting 
to motivate myself to do work, and I even went to all of my lectures 
this week.  Never knew that working actually make you feel quite good.  
It makes you feel that you're doing something important.

However, since today all of my lectures are cancelled I have to take 
the chance to doss about ALL DAY.. hehe.  and eat pot noodles, then 
remember that pot noodles are disgusting and I shouldn't have bought it.  

I just remembered that I lurrrve Terrorvision and Terrorvision are 
playing in Cocke Schitty in a few weeks, if those stuff get blown off 
the ceiling again and cause them to cancel I will personally blown the 
whole place off the face of the Earth.

I need to go to the Chinese supermarket to get some proper pot noodles 
soon which are incidentally waaaaaaaay nicer than the manky ones you 
get here.

If only they make Red Bull pot noodles.. hmm actually that probably 
wouldn't be so nice, but the stimulation you can get... hmm.  I think 
I've gone mental. :-)

Yummy Chinese Noodles and Red Bulls
Ken
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From lucyalder at xxx.com  Thu Nov  2 16:20:56 2000
From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 08:20:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Christmas
Message-ID: <20001102162056.4762.qmail@web1601.mail.yahoo.com>

Wahey!  Not only can you pre-order at the Xfm site, you can listen to a
whole 30 seconds of the ADVENT HYMN NOT CAROL, ASK NICK DASTOOR, HE KNOWS!
 I think it's Stevie and it's definitely Isobel.  I was hoping for more of
a belting hymn with them all going for it big style accompanied by some
Sally Army brass, but I suppose a softly softly approach with an acoustic
guitar was inevitable.  Still, it's quite nice, don't you think?

Hello everyone I met/drank with in Glasgow!  Mmmm, I had a nice time, in
spite of lashing rain and freezing winds and no taxis for ages along Suck
Yer Hole Street (is that an old joke or am I being stunningly original
there?  Hmmm.)  Somebody asked about Glasgow architecture.  I went to the
Art School but it was bleeding well full of drunken students and you get
told off for snogging in the corridors, which just isn't cricket, is it? 
For wonderous architectural beauty, I suggest Stow college.  It has a nice
sign welcoming you in several different languages and a lovely view of a
great big car park.

Who are you Biddy Baxtering for in the auction then?  I'm thinking of
going for Jo's hand knitted jumper.  Speaking of knitting, I'm starting a
knitting circle in London so if you'd like to come and click needles,
drink gin and gossip, whisper privately into my inbox and I'll let you
know what's going on.  All welcome.

And still speaking of knitting, I went to see the Magnetic Fields last
night.  I am pleased to report that the trend I started of wearing a long,
woolly, stripey scarf has caught on because each and every one of them
(including guest performers) was also wearing one.  I doubt they knitted
them themselves though.  Marc Almond looked a bit peeved at having to wear
something so frumpy with his lovely undone shirt and silver necklaces and
twinkly gold tooth, but we jeered and pestered him until he did, the big
softy.

Right, I'll luv yer and leave yer.

Juicy Lucy

ps. Jenowl, my lovely, sorry I didn't get to meet you at the weekend. 
I've left a message for you in the 13th Note (second door along).




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> be
> pre-ordered on the XFM website, (http://www.xfm.co.uk), 

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From athenaofme at xxx.com  Thu Nov  2 16:57:29 2000
From: athenaofme at xxx.com (lisa morrison)
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 16:57:29 GMT
Subject: Sinister: gospel-yeahyeah 'round the rink
Message-ID: <F136DjFbUcOV1EetVoM00002e8f@hotmail.com>

coughs and colds to you all
(if you don't have them already you soon will
so why wait any longer, get them from lisa...
at least you will have caught them from a cutie...
its not what you got, but how you get it...i wink)

causing all sorts of mayhem:
  peeking sheepishly from side to side...lisa (that would be me)
  managed to set off the fire alarm in her dormatory and send
  500 pajama-klad 19 yr olds (dumb girl) slippering onto main street
  at 10pm last night. chewed on my bottom lip and scurried out
  along with the masses and cursed and rolled my eyes and lit a smoke   and 
tried to look tough...had to listen to the irritating   exclamations of 19yr 
old (dumb girl) slipperings "don't panic the     buildings on just fire!"; 
"yay! no more school!"  "shit-i have beer   in my room and i left the door   
WIDE open(giggle   giggle)"...and   all of this fiasco b/c little me   had a 
pasta craving, put the pot  on and retreated back into room,   forgetting 
all about pasta to talk   unmentionables with friend     paul...i feel  
rather powerful,   having 500 (dumb girl)  slipperings   and the fire  dept. 
at my   cravings beckon call...lala

content:
  began rather racey "hand-over-the-window" (notice content)affair...
  i sigh and justify that "its something to keep me warm during
  long approaching winter"...blankets just don't cut it anymore. (pish)

-lisa (says)






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From Walkn10 at xxx.com  Thu Nov  2 17:56:33 2000
From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:56:33 EST
Subject: Sinister: If you ever need self-validation, its all over my face...
Message-ID: <21.2efb774.273304d1@aol.com>

Hi,

I've got a bit of a problem on my hands and I need some good advice.  I'm 
into a girl thats been hurt very badly (I stress badly) in pretty much all 
her serious relationships.  Eventhough we both really like each other and 
have great times together, this obviously weighs heavily on her mind.  As a 
result, she's absolutely terrified to open up to me emotionally or show me 
any affection in the least, other than the fact that she keeps me around.  At 
first I thought it was a problem with me, but now I realize its the thoughts 
of the beasts that came before that are still hovering inside her head.  
They've crushed her self-esteem and I have no idea what to do anymore.
My problem is two-fold: #1) we've only really hung out for a month, so we're 
still very much trying to figure the other person out and what they're all 
about, and #2) even when we do get a good thing going, her fears kind of put 
the kabosh on what could be.  Its frustrating the living hell out of me 
because I really, really like this girl but I'm trying to lay low and give 
her all the time she needs to deal with whatever is on her mind.  Its like, I 
want to show her affection and be there for her, which solves problem #1, but 
problem #2 stands in the way.  I only get short snippets of what she's like 
emotionally, like when she plays with her cat, and I know that if she opened 
up to me, everything else would take care of itself (we're already completing 
each others' sentences).
I know someone out there HAS to have gone through something like this and ANY 
advice on how to approach it and things to keep in mind would be deeply 
appreciated.  I'm so confused as to what would be the best thing to do: show 
her affection and try to help build her self-esteem?  Stay away and give her 
space?  Words?  Actions?  Both?  Neither?  For the first time in my life the 
Smiths make more sense than anything else in the world.  Please help!

Steve C.

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From megatherion5 at xxx.com  Thu Nov  2 20:19:15 2000
From: megatherion5 at xxx.com (Jason McKinnon)
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 12:19:15 PST
Subject: Sinister: Lurking on the Left Coast
Message-ID: <F64pmy20h08xWI0AT2J00008a2f@hotmail.com>


Hey All,

"In a high-rise in San Francisco,  there worked a Jason. Clicking away at 
his
computer and listening to B&S consume his day. Ticking away the hours and
days, waiting for something forgotten.

Happiness isn't  conducive to the creative process. So I wait happily rutted 
in
a ditch of my own digging. Forgetting what it looks like outside.

Waiting.

For something."



I just wanted to introduce myself.  Jason McKinnon is my name.

It's nice to be here.

I guess the first step to recovery is to admit you're a B & S addict.  But,
you know, I don't think it's a sin for "like minds" to converge.

It's kinda beautiful actually.

Until next time,

Jason

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 +-+       "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named       +-+
 +-+           Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000           +-+
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From megatherion5 at xxx.com  Thu Nov  2 19:23:02 2000
From: megatherion5 at xxx.com (Jason McKinnon)
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 12:23:02 -0700
Subject: Sinister: Lurking on the Left Coast
Message-ID: <B6270B59.3F3%megatherion5@hotmail.com>


Hey All,
 
 In a high-rise in San Francisco,  there worked a Jason. Clicking away at
his
 computer and listening to B&S consume his day. Ticking away the hours and
 days, waiting for something forgotten.
 
 Happiness is conducive to the creative process. So I wait happily rutted in
 a ditch of my own digging. Forgetting what it looks like outside.
 
Waiting.
 
For something.
 
 I just wanted to introduce myself.  Jason McKinnon is my name.
 
 It's nice to be here.
 
 I guess the first step to recovery is to admit you're a B & S addict.  But,
 you know, I don't think it's a sin for "like minds" to converge.
 
 It's kinda beautiful actually.
 
Until next time,
 
 Jason

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From brier at xxx.com  Thu Nov  2 20:44:19 2000
From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:44:19 -0800
Subject: Sinister: A SeNsE oF BeLonGinG...
Message-ID: <017001c0450d$adb9cbe0$729ef1d1@Brier.sb.net>

Nice post  Velo Girl, about the little boy & all.... until you begin talking
revolution and  you lose me.  What i thought J.of Dark was talking about was
more a reconstruction... and she was essentially building rather than
destroying.  Well, she made ME smile anyway.  She usually does.  So before
you cut cut cut, especially someone we appreciate, try to think carefully
first.
Not getting in the middle,
just interpreting words around me,
B.




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From secretmysterydate at xxx.com  Fri Nov  3 03:04:32 2000
From: secretmysterydate at xxx.com (a star is born)
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 22:04:32 EST
Subject: Sinister: Two elliots and no E.T.
Message-ID: <F231n2Pi1Y7PeGbPn6U000074db@hotmail.com>

eh-hem...

Elliot #1:
			Smith
			rocked my world on tuesday
			dressed up properly for halloween
			playing serious-ish songs but not taking himself too
			seriously
			looking much cuter in person than in photos
			playing a rad cover of "Don't fear the reaper"
			generally putting on an amazing show

	one complaint:	not enough acoustic stuff (but it did rock)

Elliot # 2:
			my cat
			still cute
			but annoying me
			running everywhere
			putting paw prints of blue paint all across three panels
			of carfeully damar-varnished surfaces
			could be "Hallmark Store" material
			but not REALLY appropro for my shiz-it
			but...
				...can't stay mad at a little kitty can you?

No E.T.:
		hmm.
		nothing to add
		still no aliens i guess
		on the topic of movies however: Dancer in the Dark
		floored me
		love it
		some people hate it
		i don't know
		i love it loads
		i cried
		a lot
		i'm even getting funny feelings now thinking about it.

love you all
sam
"getting a doctorate in cold-rockin' it" (the roots)

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From anne.bacheley at xxx.fr  Fri Nov  3 10:59:35 2000
From: anne.bacheley at xxx.fr (Anne Bacheley)
Date: Fri,  3 Nov 2000 11:59:35 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Sinister: french tv going p!o!p!
Message-ID: <20001103105935.E60EF48E60@smtp3-out.minitel.net>

Hi all,

this is my first post. Yet another froggy, I'm afraid!
I recently noticed more and more documentaries on the telly with cool 
soundtracks.
The other day it was the very long intro of "Gene Clarke" by Teenage 
Fanclub, and last night it was a Vic Chesnutt song... on a documentary 
about death penalty in the US...
I never heard B&S as tv soundtrack yet, but who knows?

love,

Anne
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From jordiet at xxx.com  Fri Nov  3 13:05:08 2000
From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano)
Date: 3 Nov 2000 13:05:08 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Yes, I cried at "Dancer in the dark"...anything wrong ???
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From V0168JE2 at xxx.UK  Fri Nov  3 13:38:08 2000
From: V0168JE2 at xxx.UK (weejay)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 13:38:08 -0000
Subject: Sinister: I'm a little pixie
Message-ID: <3A02BFBF.15817.89AED1@localhost>

hullo.
we did a ouija board last night and whenever we asked it 
anything it just kept saying 'B S B S B S' over and over again. i 
don't know, i think it may just be my subconscious projecting 
belle & sebastian onto the board but then again... earlier we had 
some russian woman called nikya who died in 1915. she said 
she died when she fell. we asked her where she fell and she said 
'down'. its a bit strange, eddy and rowly had their fingers on it 
and nothing was happening, then i lightly touched it myself with 
no pressure on the glass at all and it started moving really fast. 
but i'm still not convinced because it didn't tell us anything we 
couldn't have made up ourselves.
i know a girl at goldsmiths called bex and (she was approached 
by someone who asked 'are you on sinister' because she was 
wearing a b&s badge upside down. she's not, she just has badge 
alignment difficulties, in fact those were the first words i said to 
her (i think) so she was amused/scared/worried/etc. but hi to 
whoever that was and well spotted. i said i would go see b&s 
with her when they next play in london but i'll probably be dead 
by then.
someone said they haven't listened to b&s for ages. this goes for 
me too but only because i've taken all their cds round to my 
friends house and he just plays them in his bookshop all day 
which is probably a worthier cause but still i think i need them 
back. if you want to go to a bookshop that plays tigermilk, 
looper and soft machine and looks like the shop at the beginning 
of the never-ending story then you should go to northam books, 
northam rd, southampton. and the books are pretty good too, if 
you were wondering. and if you're a girl you'll fall in love with 
adam because they all do for some reason and not with me. bah.

xxx
weejay
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From igh1 at xxx.uk  Fri Nov  3 14:30:52 2000
From: igh1 at xxx.uk (Ian Hatcher)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:30:52 -0000
Subject: Sinister: you only want to ride (horses.  that's what she means.  horses.  and not in that way, either, you sick puppies)
Message-ID: <00c801c045a2$ab6d9d40$b7620c81@ukc.ac.uk>

hello kids,

wowie - two posts from me in the last few weeks, the shadows of lurkerdom
were getting quite scary.  and i need more help buying records.  and i have
an idea.  but if you want to know what it is, you'll have to read everything
else first.  ha ha :)

okey dokey, first of all, thanks to all the peeple who told me to buy 'you
can't hide your love forever' by the orange juice.  i would've bought it,
but it's been deleted, tho' it'll be re-released next year, apparently.  so
i'll get it then.  but 'up for a bit with the pastels' seems good after one
listen (it turned up yesterday).  and how good is the new gentle waves
single (and, indeed, sister woman, which was on the select cd thingymajig)??

halloween was pants, but only because i didn't have time or money enough to
buy a costume.  and i know i could have made one, but all my clothes-making
energies are going into making a dogtanion tee shirt, and maybe a field mice
one.  but i'm going to steal the 'chocolate love sex' idea for the field
mice tee, and stick that on a light blue shirt (like the study at stow one).
anyways, i went down the pub all night and drank flaming aftershocks, which
was fun, especially when i tried to cook a curry at midnight and kept
dropping stuff on the floor.  and then eating it.

righty-ho, my first question is 'does anyone know anything about heavenly of
sarah records fame??' were they any cop?  can you still buy any of their
records?? should i??  come on, tell me, i need to know . . . :)

my idea is (sorry this isn't a very long e-mail, but i've forgotten
everything i was going to say) how about a gentle waves meet up in london?
and how about for the gig on the saturday night, cos then we could go to
blow-up (grate northern soul/60s place which my friends made me leave early
last time cos they couldn't dance to any of the music)?

well, that's it, remarkably poor, i know, but what can you do?

cheery-byes,
ian.


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From pcxas at xxx.uk  Fri Nov  3 15:25:34 2000
From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:25:34 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: in the old tradition
In-Reply-To: <00c801c045a2$ab6d9d40$b7620c81@ukc.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0011031510350.14846-100000@granby.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>




Caros and caras mias:


I think I should join back the good,old,desintoxicating habit of pouring
anything that crosses my soul into some message to the list.Taking my good
fifteen minutes to polish my appalling English,that is,but not taking any
minute out of the fifteen to fit some Belle and Sebastian reference into
it,if it is not the day for it.Nobody does it any longer, so it could be
me.


However,Bionda Campbell has her cutesy band reviewed on some theoretically
serious media at least this Friday.And I have just flicked one
paper.According to the reviewer,she has obviously flicked something else
to deftly construct her lyrics,William Blake at least,not Francois
Truffaut this time,my friends.There is also a cutesy print of her (not big
arse in the picture...)accompanying the column,for the most unstoppable
and devoted fans of the bella.

Halloween:

My friends at Madrid went on Tuesday to some party for the last few
international playboys around, don't know if Peter Miller got the jet to
be there, Club Montepulciano at Nasti Club in my very home town. I think
that would have made an incomparable venue for Frank and Pat to celebrate
their eloping if that had been a tad more successful,that is.Only
Eastenders watchers :what is Pat going to do without earrings? She is the
patron saint of big earrings, Our Lady of all the Midlands Teen
Townies.

xxx

A. 





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From Weingut.Hammes at xxx.de  Fri Nov  3 17:21:10 2000
From: Weingut.Hammes at xxx.de (Juergen Hammes)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:21:10 +0100
Subject: Sinister: another first post
Message-ID: <13rkWc-0CaOnZC@fwd04.sul.t-online.com>


Hello, my name is Kerstin and I've grown up a bit.
I've got a headache because my shoulders are hurting. At least that's what it 
seems like to me. Maybe it's the other way round, I don't really care but what I 
know is that I'm going to get rid of it tonight.
Because tonight is Friday night, and any party is cool.
And my ciggy packet is still full.- Still.

So, I hope I'm going to be accepted here. This sounds really stupid. _What I 
mean is...I hate lurking.

Kerstin "active today" Hammes

Was it someone that you'd maybe recognise ? 

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From brier at xxx.com  Fri Nov  3 18:00:59 2000
From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:00:59 -0800
Subject: Sinister: Heavenly, simply heavenly.
Message-ID: <027d01c045c0$06a3a840$729ef1d1@Brier.sb.net>

Meow says the kitten;

I've been sick for about 5 days (don't let me breathe on you), scratchy
throat & coughing coughing.  The only thing that helped was eating half a
tube of that raw cookie dough, with my fingers, on the couch, in blankets,
watching daytime t.v.  Something made it taste SO good.  Can you imagine
anything more comforting?

Ian asked about Heavenly: a wonderful girl-fronted punkpop band, most
recommended for their "P.U.N.K. Girl" e.p. (which is on K Records altho a
large part of their catalog is on Sarah, i prefer their K stuff).  Please
buy it with allspeed.  Their other albums lost some of the edge, I think,
altho correct me if i'm wrong (of course you will).

Now Playing:  Le Pastie
Gotta be their hardest song yet, non?  And any song that mentions 2 of my
three favorite authors (they really need a song about Bukowski) has to be
loved and played on repeat from time to time.

Where are all the good cordeuroy flares?  Not at the thrift shops.  Summun's
buying them up to sell at the vintage shops for $20 a pair.  I hate that.
But my friends tell me that if i don't wear something besides my low-ass
boot-cut jeans, they'll cut bagel-sized holes in the arse.  Who CARES what
pants I wear?  I didn't think anyone looked below my waist anyway.
"What a fuckin waist....."

OK, luck to all you catchers (in the rye & behind home plate)

Brier

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From megatherion5 at xxx.com  Fri Nov  3 17:04:43 2000
From: megatherion5 at xxx.com (Jason McKinnon)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 10:04:43 -0700
Subject: Sinister: you only want to ride (horses.  that's what she	means.  horses.  and not in that way, either, you sick puppies)
In-Reply-To: <00c801c045a2$ab6d9d40$b7620c81@ukc.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <B6283E31.429%megatherion5@hotmail.com>

Ian,

Back in the early 90's (like that's a long time ago!), I was living in the
Northwestern Part of the U.S. in Oregon to be precise. During my stay there,
I began to notice (both in clubs and on the radio) these girlbands who
sounded like the Go-Go's but with a more musical and honest edge.  I think
someone along the way named it "CuddleCore".

Heavenly was one of these bands if I am not mistaken or at least in the same
genre. And although they were on Sarah Records, they have many things in
common with bands from K records, Nardwuar the Human Serviette, and also
those Yo-Yo Compilations that Pat Maley used to put out.

While everyone in the U.S. was listening to grunge (ugh), there were all
these great pop bands in the NW. Playing their precious hearts out for
little or no recognition.

Bands like:

Cub
Go Sailor
Addickted.
Anything with this chick, Kaia, in it.

And, yes, they are pretty neat. Some of their stuff reminds of Helen Love
(who I love) in spirit if not in sound.

I find a site about Heavenly and a place where you can buy their records
online.

http://members.tripod.com/~goHeavenly/

http://www.ubl.com/fp2.asp?layout=a_artistalbums_full&artistid=2385&p_id=P++
++26510

W.O.W (way out west),

ThePicklePrince

> From: "Ian Hatcher" <igh1 at xxx.uk>
> Reply-To: "Ian Hatcher" <igh1 at ukc.ac.uk>
> Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:30:52 -0000
> To: "Sinister" <sinister at missprint.org>
> Subject: Sinister: you only want to ride (horses.  that's what she means.
> horses.  and not in that way, either, you sick puppies)
> 
> hello kids,
> 
> wowie - two posts from me in the last few weeks, the shadows of lurkerdom
> were getting quite scary.  and i need more help buying records.  and i have
> an idea.  but if you want to know what it is, you'll have to read everything
> else first.  ha ha :)
> 
> okey dokey, first of all, thanks to all the peeple who told me to buy 'you
> can't hide your love forever' by the orange juice.  i would've bought it,
> but it's been deleted, tho' it'll be re-released next year, apparently.  so
> i'll get it then.  but 'up for a bit with the pastels' seems good after one
> listen (it turned up yesterday).  and how good is the new gentle waves
> single (and, indeed, sister woman, which was on the select cd thingymajig)??
> 
> halloween was pants, but only because i didn't have time or money enough to
> buy a costume.  and i know i could have made one, but all my clothes-making
> energies are going into making a dogtanion tee shirt, and maybe a field mice
> one.  but i'm going to steal the 'chocolate love sex' idea for the field
> mice tee, and stick that on a light blue shirt (like the study at stow one).
> anyways, i went down the pub all night and drank flaming aftershocks, which
> was fun, especially when i tried to cook a curry at midnight and kept
> dropping stuff on the floor.  and then eating it.
> 
> righty-ho, my first question is 'does anyone know anything about heavenly of
> sarah records fame??' were they any cop?  can you still buy any of their
> records?? should i??  come on, tell me, i need to know . . . :)
> 
> my idea is (sorry this isn't a very long e-mail, but i've forgotten
> everything i was going to say) how about a gentle waves meet up in london?
> and how about for the gig on the saturday night, cos then we could go to
> blow-up (grate northern soul/60s place which my friends made me leave early
> last time cos they couldn't dance to any of the music)?
> 
> well, that's it, remarkably poor, i know, but what can you do?
> 
> cheery-byes,
> ian.
> 
> 
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From athenaofme at xxx.com  Fri Nov  3 20:37:14 2000
From: athenaofme at xxx.com (lisa morrison)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 20:37:14 GMT
Subject: Sinister: drawn and quartered by shifting winds
Message-ID: <F188ktnHNHbHvLg43Xo00007999@hotmail.com>

this is list abuse. delete now. lisa catharsis.
perhaps b&s should write a song about lisa abusing both animate and
inanimate objects to expaciate her sins...
but this is short and sweet catharsis...so grin and bare it...
just tempermental me. kissing way too many men like long walks home
(catharisis manages to encompass content)...didn't i vow to
give up on that...?now i pay the consequences...sitting in rumble of broken 
promises...picking up pieces only to fling them across the pile again to be 
lost...
sometimes you just have to curse outloud. perhaps this will
be heard: SSSSSHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTT...
where have those two hundred teenagers gone...or, were they ever here
to beging with.


disregard this insanity. think of me grinning. i'l be yr ideal.
-lisa
  sail
   is la
     forget it.

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From rfadden at xxx.com  Fri Nov  3 22:26:06 2000
From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:26:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: my selves and i were scared of using the wrong cutlery
Message-ID: <20001103222606.29764.qmail@web114.yahoomail.com>

check it! 

--i'll have a knife and a bike chain, and a fox in the snow for my
friend here--
i received a package in the mail from my friend in japan yesterday.
in it was a coaster from the, yes, belle and sebastian club in seoul,
korea! it's awesome b/c it's so two pieces of laminated coloured
cardboard cut into a circle with 'belle & sebastian' written on both
sides in gold and silver pen. rah! how very! my friend said the club
is great and decorated with b&s posters and b&s is played in healthy
amounts. 

--telling time just got def--
i also received a "scratch watch", which is a watch with a tiny
plastic turntable on it and when you scratch the record it says one
of four japanese phrases (or parts of phrases if you're that kind of
scratch watch master). the phrases translate as: really?, why?,
that's enough! and okay okay! it is about the radest thing ever. 

--sometimes people say 'coot', but that is not so cute really--
and, along with candy in sushi shapes and some long purple socks with
toes in them, i received a facecloth with a bunny on it and the
rather ominous words "her name is lily. she is three years old. she
is a rabbit." now, i'm pretty particular about what is cute. and this
is damn cute. a total rip-off of dick bruna's miffy the bunny, yes,
but it makes me say aaaw and smile every time i look at it. and miffy
the bunny is cuter than hello kitty, honestly. and hello kitty is
cute. my melody is perhaps cuter than hello kitty though but not as
cute as miffy. but what do i know; this weekend i hugged a giant
pikachu pajama bag in the sheets and pillows department of the bay. i
can only explain it as a bad reaction to goose down. 

so, japan proves itself cute *and* rad yet again! 
just like steven kado. 

--i've seen the future and it's wearing flares--
but wait, stop, no, yes! there's more b&s! the latest issue of vice
magazine has belle-and-sebastian-a-scopes! b&s lyrics interpret the
month ahead! and in vice of all places! but you can tell they love
b&s; it's not tongue-in-cheek. well, maybe literally in their case,
but not figuratively. 

--movies-- 
yes, "ratcatcher" is so great. after i saw "dancer in the dark"
(which turned me inside out and made me unable to move for a bit. i
loved it.), i took a cab to a filmfest party and the cab driver was
scottish. so there i am, all emotionally put through the ringer and
drained, and the cab driver asks (b/c we said we were going to a
filmfest party) if we saw any scottish films during the filmfest. and
i said yes, ratcatcher. and he said that that was a great film and
what did i think of it. and i said it was amazing and poetic and
stunning really (i was not articulate at all). and he wanted to know
more, *why* i thought these things, *what* was poetic about it, etc.
so i fumbled and talked about the scene where james goes to the new
housing development and looks out through the kitchen window and the
whole screen is filled with the kitchen window and a waving field of
long faded gold grass. which was just so beautiful and sad and a
visual contrast with much of the movie. and then the cab driver was
nice to me and told me of other scottish films to see and had a good
rant about the state of the american film industry. and he only
charged me $5 for a $15 cab ride. 

--the sea and cake--
were really really great last night, like beautiful. it seems they
are playing with broadcast on almost all of their *other* tour dates,
which is awesome (though not awesome for me. awesome for you who see
this show.) but blonde redhead are coming here with the need in
december, so hey and wow and rah for that which is going to be
supremely rockin'.

um.
yeah, that.
but also, if you put john mcentire and stuart murdoch in the same
room, even if they were at opposite ends of it, the room would start
to glow with sexiness and anyone who saw this glow would immediately
fall down due to their knees turning to jelly and their pulse going
arhythmic. 

yrs b/c vowels aren't on sale this week, 
r o b y n 

and: jason said good things about early 90s girlbands like cub!
yaaay! he also mentioned Nardwuar the Human Serviette in passing.
which i found funny b/c i don't know if i've ever heard nardwuar
mentioned in passing - either you're talking about nardwuar or you're
not, it seems... 

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I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright
~~~
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From Simiansurvival at xxx.com  Sat Nov  4 06:11:13 2000
From: Simiansurvival at xxx.com (Simiansurvival at xxx.com)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 01:11:13 EST
Subject: Sinister: slurry samba
Message-ID: <ea.cf07a3c.27350281@aol.com>

hey peoples!!

spent most of the day making tapes for friends... and making a tape all the 
Badly Drawn Boy b-sides and old EP songs i have...it's good walking and 
wandering music. every time i'm in my car and i'm listening to "once around 
the block", which has become one of my all time favorite songs, i feel like 
i'm in the video, and i want to pick up a boy and a girl with braces so they 
can make out in my backseat. hey, i had braces once, i've been there. 

i finally listened to some Belle and Sebastian after a long while of not 
having done so. i put the Legal Man 12" on and started to shake-a-puddin, 
bounce-a-puddin, shake-a-puddin, bounce.

has anyone heard the Go-Kart Mozart album... i know it's Lawrence from Felt, 
but i haven't heard anything from it... i heard it was pretty decent, and i 
know Momus liked it, so that's a good sign, but can anyone email me telling 
me sone more about it? please?

come to think of it, just email me and tell me anything. talk to me. i 
promise i'll write you back. i get so bored sometimes, and i love all of you 
sinister peoples, so write me if you could be so kind. give me record 
recommendations, tell me about good books, or whatever. tell me about your 
dog. i just like talking to people. you'd make me terribly happy.

well, after such a feat as that, i think i should go before i make people 
barf. 

see you soon,
mike j

PS- toy instruments are fun

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From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk  Sat Nov  4 13:48:05 2000
From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk (Elizabeth Daplyn)
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 14:48:05 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Can't tell your arse from (kissing) your elbow
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From michael at xxx.net  Sat Nov  4 17:25:59 2000
From: michael at xxx.net (Michael Cronshaw)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:25:59 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Heavenly Denim
Message-ID: <002f01c04684$c8056cc0$02000003@oemcomputer>

Hello peeps

People have been talking about Heavenly & Go-Kart Mozart, so I thought I'd
write a bit about them, in case it's helpful for anyone:

Heavenly formed out of remains of Talulah Gosh, who have fairly recently
released a compilation of just about everything they recorded, called
Backwash. All Heavenly LPs are now available, except Heavenly vs Satan, but
aren't stocked in most record shops. Heavenly split after Mathew died, but
after a while, the rest of the band got back together to form Marine
Research, who should be releasing their second album soon, hopefully. Amelia
sings backing vocals on the new Hefner album, and Cathy is a TV producer and
also presents Scrapheap Challenge!

After Felt, Lawrence formed Denim before being Go-Kart Mozart. Denim's first
album, Back In Denim, was an excellent, slightly comical, retro 70s glam
rock style record, as was the second, On Ice. Then Lawrence got bored and
released Novelty Rock, an experimental novelty comedy rock record which
sounds like a collection of cheesy advert jingles. Reviews of Go-Kart
Mozart's album suggested that it was also in this style, so I gave up on
Lawrence, although I've heard rumours that he's going to return to his Felt
style and release an album on Alan McGee's new Poptones Internet label.

Oh, and I hope B&S release something soon too.

Michael


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From athenaofme at xxx.com  Sat Nov  4 18:48:19 2000
From: athenaofme at xxx.com (lisa morrison)
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 18:48:19 GMT
Subject: Sinister: chase me out of the ball game
Message-ID: <F12mdTcjJxWY5pCxlIC00004457@hotmail.com>

not list abuse.
(though i am growing ever popular for it)
...but perhaps that is a lie and this is list abuse.
just wack me with a rather large stick if i break to many
rules...i'll take the hint. (and we know all sinister kids
"speak softly and carry a big stick")

gordon said:
>wow lisa... my headmaster in Newton Mearns Primary School was called Mr.
>Morrison: he was from Harris.

fab. doll but i bet he wasn't cute as me...now if i were yr 
headmaster...(this is the scratch in the record that sends me grinding
my terribley cheeky self to a halt)

embarces to the ever-so talented miss. joan of dark...yes, doll
let us embrace amoungst the rumble. it will be a rather tragic 
picture...mildly ironic don't you think so doll?

next time one of my mental buildings comes crashing down i'll be sure to let 
the lot of you know...
untill then...i've got a nude photo shot that i'm late for
already...
being yr ideal.
-lisa is a L (iar)



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From gogron at xxx.uk  Sat Nov  4 21:03:48 2000
From: gogron at xxx.uk (gogron)
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 21:03:48 +0000
Subject: Sinister: he was rumoured to be either dead, selling pigs in the north of France, 
 recruiting for the Dutch foreign legion, or ruling a tribe in Africa
Message-ID: <3A0479B4.44964706@netscapeonline.co.uk>

there are fireworks

Saturday night is fireworks night even though the gunpowder plot is more
properly commerorated the 'morrow (this prissy exactitude is in a vain
attempt to keep Christmas to the season of advent; the millenium 'till
2001; the American elections where they are due... an internationally
important piece of news by now, but I could've lived without the
coverage of it 6 months ago)
So the sparks are flying either side of the window, noisly, but failing
to align their cheerfully colourful little bursts of affection in front
of me.

the season for it

This is not the season for content, one suspects, or at least not until
Emmanuel has Come.
Someone mentioned listening to Belle tunes after a break, and choosing
Legal Man. My eye, too, has hovered over that CD spine in terms of a
re-entry to the world of Belle, being short and jolly and freeing me
from the crushing requirement to analyze lyrics...
dadaddadadaa...dadadadadada! yay. But I listen to a tape of Axelle Red
instead, cos she sings cute and funky stuff in French which I don't even
try to understand.

technology

Everything in it's place: weblogs in weblogland, music news in
sinister... is this the structure for a well-ordered hard disc? I'm sure
it's a wise concept, but too clever and complicated for a haggard old
virgin like me. I like people throwing this and that and whatever into
sinister mail. Kind of like a wondrous pile of jittery, exciteable junk
that makes my breakfast, of a weekday, a pleasure and, of a weekend, the
kind of stimulation apt to throw me into paroxysms of feedback, albeit
that the particular agencies are now deep down in my subconcious.

chat

Sinister chat was quite busy last night/morning/siesta whatever it was
for you. Funnily, some peeps on chat are scared to post, and some people
who post are scared to go on chat! Yer should all get together at a
picnic and bake scones or something in order to bond, cos yer all cool
and cute and...sinister. Anyways it would be awesome to see what 1300
people in a chat room would be like. Suppose Honey would have to divide
us all into little anterooms like they do on CH4 guest chats (sorry, UK
only ref... it's like where questions are selected from the people
who've logged in and then transferred to a kind of VIP chatroom...
basically it doesn't work.)

the subject

See the subject line, I opened the book at random and that was it...
it's strange because, generally, opening a book at random, one doesn't
generally come instantly across something so quotable. But, apologies,
and it is, I suppose, a flaw in random stuff: it'll be widely regarded
as irrelevant.
Which sums up this post rather neatly:)

love and kisses,
Gordon

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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Sun Nov  5 03:47:41 2000
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 03:47:41 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Nice lace for a silk
Message-ID: <200011050344.DAA15659@missprint.org>

Hi,

I'm back home for a day in Milton Keynes, and I was very surprised 
that I was happy today, in November 05.  My parents have gone on 
holiday, so I am alone in the house.

It's so nice and relaxing, and makes a change from sitting in my 
room in halls knowing that exactly everyone else are like all 
snogging and you are not.  I am even sober, I am tired, I feel 
dizzy after going to a fun fair earlier, but nice.

Maybe I am just made for a solitary life, I hope not, it sounds 
boring... unless I get to go bowling a lot, and do other fun 
things like juggling and playing guitar and making jokes that 
only I laugh at and drinking Red Bull.

Unfortunately I'm feeling good only now at 3:40am, which means 
it's all going to end, right here, if only I can be awake forever, 
but I can't.. I should have bought more Red Bulls.

Good night, and take care.

Sweet quiet nights and red bulls!
Ken
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From sophiesea at xxx.com  Sun Nov  5 14:15:48 2000
From: sophiesea at xxx.com (sophie *)
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 14:15:48 GMT
Subject: Sinister: two lumps please, you're the bees knees...
Message-ID: <LAW2-F266bhyF2fPmsS00006f87@hotmail.com>

*
so i was just starting to write a little mail to the lovely ian, to say ooh 
yes, gentle waves meetup would be a splendide idea, and then i thought, why 
not say ooh yes to everyone? so yeah, i think it's a luverly idea, and 
let's. saturday then?

am writing from my dad's house, having fled from my mum's (the true horror 
of moving back home after uni *shudder* (in a sideshow bob kinda way))- 
anywaysh, so my mum wanted me to put old curtains in boxes and we ended up 
having a barney about washing up and money and horrible stuff, and i hadn't 
even had me breakfast or anything... so i stormed off and had some muesli 
and danced round my room to that salako song that goes 'old people need 
glasses to see now that's a fact', and felt a bit defiant and groovy. so ran 
away to my dad's. which is down the road. hurray. and i bought the observer 
and some sparklers for tonite :)...

saw pretty in pink last night, and again, marvelled at just how disgusting 
molly ringworm's dress is at the prom, but how totally you believe duckie 
when he says how lovely she looks. in fact i think it's almost more poignant 
becuase of the nastiness of the dress.
i keep having reality dreams, which are no good at all, 'cause you just wake 
up feeling confused. far better to have a good adventure dream i think, 
although i did dream about snow on friday.

love to you all. it's so nice to be able to *read* my sinister properly on a 
sunday, rather than do the furtive scrolling thing at work. am going to read 
the paper now, and drink some more passion fruit juice because it is *best*. 
maybe even say sorry to my mum.

sparkly joy, honeybees

xsoph
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From rachels_a_phreak at xxx.com  Sun Nov  5 18:56:00 2000
From: rachels_a_phreak at xxx.com (Rachel Walther)
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 11:56:00 MST
Subject: Sinister: Paper Moon Soundtrack
Message-ID: <F150YDq5TBLUd6UXpOa0000921f@hotmail.com>

Coming out of self-imposed Sinister lurkedom due to new email address (that 
nasty Vicki Rider is gone for good)--to ask everyone a very imporant 
question:

Does anyone remember that movie "Paper Moon", with Ryan and Tatum O'Neal? 
It's set in the Depression and has a buncha great songs in it, all from that 
era. Tatum was the youngest person to ever win an Oscar; it's in black and 
white 'tho it was made in the 70s and it's a great movie.
  Well, would anybody like to trade me for the soundtrack? I've found myself 
with an extra copy I unwittingly bought off eBay before realizing my dad 
already owned the album, so now I have this large package in my room and 
nobody I know wants it.
  The songs are: "It's Only a Paper Moon"-Paul Whiteman and his Orchestra, 
"About A Quarter To Nine"-Ozzie Nelson and His Orchestra, "(It Will Have To 
Do) Until the Real Thing Comes Along"-Leo Reisman & his Orchestra, 
"Flirtation Walk"-Dick Powell, "Just ONe More Chance"-Bing Crosby, "One Hour 
With You"-Jimmy Greir and his orchetsra, "I Found A Million Dollar 
Baby"-Victor Young & his Orchestra & the Boswell Sisiters, "The Object of My 
Offection" Jimmy Greir & his orchestra, "Georgia on my Mind"- Hoagy 
Charmichael and his Orchestra, "A Picture of Me Without You"-Pual Whiteman & 
his Orchestra-Ken Darby & Ramona, "ON the Banks Of the Ohio"-The Blue Sky 
Boys, "My Mary"-Jimmie Davis, "After You've Gone"-Tommy Dorsey & his 
Orchestra, "Let's Have Another Cup of Coffee"-Enric Madriguera & his Hotel 
Bitmore Orchestra, "Sunnyside Up"-Johnny Hamp's Kentucky Serenaders.
  It's on vinyl  (don't think they ever printed it on cd),and in very good 
condition (according to eBay).
If anyone wants it I'll just send it straight off to you--I haven't opened 
it so if it's been cracked in shipping or something I don't know.
I'll take anything in return: a mix tape, good book, t-shirt--whatever!

So just please let me know......ummm, I guess that's it. Thank you.

Cheers,
Rachel W.

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From dougal at xxx.uk  Sun Nov  5 20:53:12 2000
From: dougal at xxx.uk (5 Scal Louis)
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:53:12 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Fourth time lucky?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0011052011370.18834-100000@mrworry.compsoc.man.ac.uk>


  There once was a snake that lived in a pond. And the snake lived on
frogs, it only liked eating frogs, but the frogs were very fast and the
snake used to expend loads of energy chasing frogs. So the snake became
more and more tired of chasing them. Until one day the snake just lay by
the side of the pond looking ill (it was just pretending, but this snake
was a good actor), until one young frog (well, teenage really) came up the
bank and asked the snake "is there something wrong?".
  The snaked (pouting quite magnificantly) said "I bit the witches
daughter and in return she cursed me".
  "Really? What kind of curse?" asked the little frog.
  "I've got to become a carrier of frogs, and I'm not allowed to eat
any frogs without permission."
  "Go on then, prove it." Squealed the frog. "Carry me"
  "Ok" said the snake, moving down to the edge of the water. "get on."
  And the frog climbed onto the snake. The snake swam around the pond as
fast as he could with the frog on his back. 
  "faster" screamed the frog. And the snake swam faster. Infact he swam as
fast as he could and all his splashing about atracted the attention of the
other frogs. When they heard what had happened, they all asked to ride the
snake. And the snake said yes to all of them. They all climbed on and got
carried around the pond as fast as the snake could swim. Until the King of
frog' noticed. 
  "Whats happening?" He asked. And he was told all about the curse and
about how the snake had been giving everyone rides.
  "Well, I'm the King," he said, in a very self important way "I should
have a ride". So the king and his ontorage piled on to the snake and
everyoen else was pushed off. The king enjoyed it so much he told the
snake "Be here tommorow, I want another ride" and teh snake agreed.
  The next day the snake gave rides to everyone, but when the King had his
go, he noticed that the snake wasn't swimming as fast as he was the day
before, so the King asked him why.
  "Well, I'm tired. I haven't eaten for over a day and I can't eat
until you let me."
  The king thought and he decided to sacrifice a frog. And one was fed to
the snake every day from then on.
                                                             __
    __     ______    ______    ______    ______    ______    /  >
   /. -\  /      \__/      \__/      \__/      \__/      \__/  /
>--\__  --  ____      ____      ____      ____      ____      /
      \____/    \____/    \____/    \____/    \____/    \____/

Well thats it, its not my story, but the woman on the radio (GLR) said it
should be passed on... its only paraphrased. I liked it.
I drew the snake myself though (its bad isn't it).


Louis 

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From edb213 at xxx.edu  Sun Nov  5 21:04:08 2000
From: edb213 at xxx.edu (eric)
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:04:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: as queer as a three-dollar bill
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.21.0011051524320.27562-100000@is9.nyu.edu>

hello sinister-people.

all this talk of people not listening to belle and sebastian has gotten me
thinking that I shouldn't listen to them as much as I do. it's not good
for my sanity. not speaking of which, where has all the queerness gone in
b&s songs? we used to have girls holding hands, jane having boys or girls
tonight, gay brothers, and lisa meeting chelsea... now it's all terribly
terribly straight. this must be rectified.
I'm currently having an academic crisis, because I suddenly have the
desire to tranfer to the art school in my university and major in cinema
studies even though I'm graduating in a year and a half and there's no
conceivable way I could unless I'm willing to pay lots of extra
tuition. anybody else ever been in a similar situation and have lots of
wise and wonderful advice for me? being responsible is overrated, I think.
also... I'm officially going to be studying in london in the spring, which
I'm excited about to the 17th degree. I get to be a foreigner! even though
americans aren't exactly exotic. anyone that lives/has lived in london and
knows fun things to do please tell me. I'll probably do all the touristy
things my first couple of weeks there, and after that I'm going to sit in
my room. should I be prepared to drink a lot of tea?
I guess that's all from me. thanks for reading my fairly pointless
ramblings.

-eric xoxo

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From carmellie at xxx.com  Sun Nov  5 22:12:10 2000
From: carmellie at xxx.com (Carmel Petra Wright)
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 14:12:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: as queer as a three-dollar bill
Message-ID: <20001105221210.9254.qmail@web2002.mail.yahoo.com>

eric--
yes, yes, I'm in a very similar situation with my studies
and I want to switch majors, but I don't know what to. 
But, I believe, if you really have something else you
want to do, don't let a money issue hold you back from
doing it.  It'll be worth the extra tuition if you've
found something you feel is going to be better.  That's
just my little advice for the day.

To whomever mentioned going to Elliott Smith--I will be
attending two of his shows this weekend in Portland--yay!
That's only after I finish my hell week at school
though--boo.  

Have a great day everyone!

Carmel

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From prbar at xxx.com  Sun Nov  5 22:50:22 2000
From: prbar at xxx.com (Phillip Runion)
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 22:50:22 GMT
Subject: Sinister: over a thousand pounds of bologna, what a waste of pork beef and chicken
Message-ID: <F200ZzHZlJ2HxYHLBQh0000a59a@hotmail.com>

     Imagine a more derilectic version of willie nelson with a red do-rag 
and blue overalls with keen patches over the worn-out spots singing a 
furious version of "should i stay or should i go?" It was the best time i've 
had waiting for a train in ages, especially at one in the morning when 
things are usually dead boring and the only people about are shady thugs. 
Instead people were grooving with the tune. Ace. The rendition was well 
worth my dollar and would have been worth more if i could have afforded it.
     Literary suggestion of the day: Tibor Fischer. Find one his novels, the 
thought gang, under the frog, the collecter collecter, or, don't read this 
if your stupid, and be prepared to have your socks knocked off. Brilliant 
comic genius, Brilliant tragic genius all rolled into a delightfully new use 
of language and unbelievable word combinations. Salman Rushdie praises him 
fer chrissakes.
Sample sentences: "In the streets it looked as if it had been raining dead 
Russians. As Gyuri and Pataki wandered around they didn't notice any dead 
Germans; perhaps the German horror of disorder had prompted them to tidy up 
as they retreated." and "I've never had a problem about being friendly to 
people who are wrecked." Life is GYBE while reading Tibor Fischer, the rest 
is. . . yeah.
     To use "keen" a second and then a third time: does anyone know how 
"your as keen as mustard!" makes any sense as a compliment to a pretty lady. 
Mustard's pretty good on hotdogs, but the word doesn't conjure up images of 
Laetitia Casta. Mustard seems like the kind of word that should be reserved 
for B. Arthur, or that wretched, i can't call her a 'lady', can I?, lady 
from the drew carrie show. For some reasons, chicks dig it though, i've 
heard it used twice. Once outside a club, where the girl swooned, and once 
by me, when i went to a stripclub, and told the stipper that she was, in 
fact, that keen. she melted and told the lesbian bartender what i had said. 
Some things are impossible to understand.
     Last thursday, or something, some one wrote the list, (sorry about 
forgetting your name and also i've deleted the message), about seeing this 
girl that he likes alot, but has trouble getting close because of past 
assholes, etc.etc. and that you have started to see what the Smiths were on 
about. Give a listen to "You just haven't earned it yet, baby" and give her 
a little more time. Just be as good to her as you can, and show that you 
really care about her. If it's meant to be, she'll come around.
     I make it a point to listen to this is just a modern rock song at least 
once a week, and if my roommate is not asleep, to play along. Also the tune 
'belle and sebastian' because of the part when stuart sings "oh sebastian 
wrote his diary that he'd never be young again. . . but you will". All of 
their stuff is very go back-to-able, you just have to throw it on and start 
singing along.

phil r

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From paularathoon at xxx.com  Mon Nov  6 00:26:49 2000
From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon)
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 00:26:49 GMT
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <F202Ces7ZWB51zDjfD5000044aa@hotmail.com>


All this talk, well two posts, about having finished uni and being scared of 
the future struck a chord (Gm i think it was) with me because I am in the 
same boat. The good ship Unemployment and Indecision has had me a passenger 
for a good 6 months or so now... Leaving me to think that the only way 
forward is to become a student again even though i was semi-relieved to 
leave the student lifestyle for a bit.

It's odd that some people go for ages and ages without listening to B&S 
because in my case the only two bands I know I will listen to on a near 
daily basis are B&S and the Velvet Underground. I employ a squad roation 
system with the rest of my collection. i think some of my Sonic Youth Cd's 
are getting restless cos i haven't played them and Neil Young is threatening 
to move to my brothers room because the poor guy hasn't had a look in for 
months.

I bought an amazing book yesterday after seeing It's Jo and Danny at Borders 
on Oxford street. it's called House of Leaves and is about 800 pages long. 
it's one of those books where some pages are blank save for one word and 
boxes of text cover other bits of text and are written in reverse. It 
appealed to me becuase on the page where the author says "this book is for 
...." it is written "this is not for you". which warmed me immensly.I said 
it was amazing but I haven't actually read it yet
After I bought it i drifted aimlessly around the street trying to become 
part of the mass of people drifting like the tide back home. But I failed to 
merge with them so ended up being a peice of flotsam trying to fight the 
current and inevitably got the wrong train.My mood was lightened by my 
listening to "Love Songs On The Radio" by Mojave 3 on repeat... well 
actaully it just made we want to cry but I don't like the taste of tears.

B&S content: we should email London's mayor, ken livingstone, to ask him to 
put a statue up of Staurt M in Trafalger Square if he ever gets round to 
removing the generals that are there now. It would be good to see loads of 
tourists puzzling over who he is... which of course they don't do when they 
see the statues of generals Napier and Havelock cos everyone knows them.

5 Scall Louis. What a good name. Sound like a right gangster type.

paul
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From paularathoon at xxx.com  Mon Nov  6 00:27:25 2000
From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon)
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 00:27:25 GMT
Subject: Sinister: her paintings improved
Message-ID: <F170I3JzfzPAY84Ikv300004483@hotmail.com>


All this talk, well two posts, about having finished uni and being scared of 
the future struck a chord (Gm i think it was) with me because I am in the 
same boat. The good ship Unemployment and Indecision has had me a passenger 
for a good 6 months or so now... Leaving me to think that the only way 
forward is to become a student again even though i was semi-relieved to 
leave the student lifestyle for a bit.

It's odd that some people go for ages and ages without listening to B&S 
because in my case the only two bands I know I will listen to on a near 
daily basis are B&S and the Velvet Underground. I employ a squad roation 
system with the rest of my collection. i think some of my Sonic Youth Cd's 
are getting restless cos i haven't played them and Neil Young is threatening 
to move to my brothers room because the poor guy hasn't had a look in for 
months.

I bought an amazing book yesterday after seeing It's Jo and Danny at Borders 
on Oxford street. it's called House of Leaves and is about 800 pages long. 
it's one of those books where some pages are blank save for one word and 
boxes of text cover other bits of text and are written in reverse. It 
appealed to me becuase on the page where the author says "this book is for 
...." it is written "this is not for you". which warmed me immensly.I said 
it was amazing but I haven't actually read it yet
After I bought it i drifted aimlessly around the street trying to become 
part of the mass of people drifting like the tide back home. But I failed to 
merge with them so ended up being a peice of flotsam trying to fight the 
current and inevitably got the wrong train.My mood was lightened by my 
listening to "Love Songs On The Radio" by Mojave 3 on repeat... well 
actaully it just made we want to cry but I don't like the taste of tears.

B&S content: we should email London's mayor, ken livingstone, to ask him to 
put a statue up of Staurt M in Trafalger Square if he ever gets round to 
removing the generals that are there now. It would be good to see loads of 
tourists puzzling over who he is... which of course they don't do when they 
see the statues of generals Napier and Havelock cos everyone knows them.

5 Scall Louis. What a good name. Sound like a right gangster type.

paul
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From mikelsen at xxx.nz  Mon Nov  6 05:38:25 2000
From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 18:38:25 +1300
Subject: Sinister: auctions, spam and other stuff .....
Message-ID: <002701c047b4$7ab15020$f16137d2@mikelsen>

hey kids ... just a short one today.

***AUCTIONS***
Anyone looked at the auctions pages? It's a bit strange .... much as the
killer CD I said I'd make would be pretty appealing, I think a starting bid
of 10 pounds and a bid increment of 5 pounds is a little silly. I haven't
really looked at too many of the oher peoples auctions, but I hope the think
doesn't topple over because everything is just too expensive..

Also, apparently the custom CD-R I haven't made yet is 'still sealed', is
located in Glasgow, and the buyer pays fixed shipping charges. hmmmm .....
Very confusing.

***SPAM***
Someone sent me, and about 100 other listees (I recognised some of your
e-mail addresses ... how sad) a big e-mail chain letter. Let's have an end
to this, huh? Much as I love the Sinist*r community, it does irk me that
someone would see fit to just copy and paste our names into some big bulk
mailout to "bring good luck" or something. No biggee, but I HATE getting
unsolicated crap in the mail from people I don't know .....

***HIPSTERS***
I am one now.
All my dreams have come true. I own a Go-Betweens shirt, whch my lovely
friend Dave bought me at last weeks London gig. It has the label of the "Lee
Remick" single on it, is dark blue and makes me feel super super cool.

Pity I'm otherwise unexcpetional looking a little on the tubby side ....
(sigh)

Anyway, off out ......

Take care,

Lawrence Mikkelsen.

PS _ Nik Ovendon ... jeepers! I had forgotten all about "our deal" .... Will
try to finsih the job ASAP .....

PPS Over and out .....

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From kittenmouse at xxx.com  Mon Nov  6 06:52:30 2000
From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (kittenmouse radio)
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 23:52:30 -0700
Subject: Sinister: Glasgow School of Art, again
In-Reply-To: <200011060023.AAA03470@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <B62BA328.A57%kittenmouse@hotmail.com>

hi misters and ms.'s sinisters,
Does anyone on this list attend (currently or in the past) the Glasgow
School of art?  What is it like?  Is it good?  Is it worth the money?
What is Glasgow like?  Is it hard to find a place to live that is close by
the school?  Is the city expensive?  etc etc.
If anyone would be willing to correspond with me (off-list) on the subject,
and/or recommend any good websites that are about the city of Glasgow, I'd
be eternally grateful, since I'm considering going to the school as an
international student for a semester.
Thanks,
Andrea Kittenmouse
http://www.insidetheweb.com/mbs.cgi/mb1136781

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From jordiet at xxx.com  Mon Nov  6 08:33:36 2000
From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano)
Date: 6 Nov 2000 08:33:36 +0000
Subject: Sinister: a few requests.....
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From brier at xxx.com  Mon Nov  6 08:55:29 2000
From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 00:55:29 -0800
Subject: Sinister: Alone without being alone
Message-ID: <042d01c047cf$579a3460$0101a8c0@pavilion>

Creeping in while everyone's asleep, as usual.  I can expose myself and no
one will be witness.  Don't be sorry you're missing it, there's really
nothing to see.  But I swear that in the thrift-store today, while looking
for flare cords that don't exist, out comes my anthem over the speakers,
"Love Is A Battlefield", and it was the first time I smiled all day (feeling
ugly this Sunday), altho I would smile later on I couldn't see that far
ahead.  This was when I realized that someone was looking out for me.  If
only the spirit of Pat Benetar.

Didn't find a twee-shirt for the 2nd competition, but I'll keep looking, or
not looking.  It will come to me when I least expect it.  But I haven't
forgotten.  Still waiting, however, for Annie Tremps photo wearing
Twee-shirt #1.

And I'm glad that everyone who was ever mad at anyone is now no longer mad
at them... peace falls through the silent valley again.  And I hadn't heard
that Marine Research (formerly Heavenly) broke up; my inside source (i.e.
the Magic 8-Ball) says "ask again later".  Which means all will be revealed
in due time.

Standing up, knees shaking,
Brier

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From angel_blackwell at xxx.com  Mon Nov  6 12:49:05 2000
From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (angel blackwell)
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 07:49:05 EST
Subject: Sinister: i got her to dance...
Message-ID: <F319yC9cnA0ByEMoxJL0000b3fe@hotmail.com>

well kiddies...seems that the toronto sinisters are up to it again. or at 
least i was there this time. there was a loverly magnetic fields night on 
friday. i got to see my 2 favourite listees, actually the first 2 i ever 
met...debs and diana. i got to sit with them at the door and stamp kittens 
and elephant bums on people's hands. i wasn't allowed to touch the money 
which was a good thing. if people didn't give me a loonie and a twoonie, i 
got lost. congrats to emily and teri cuz i had a great time. we danced and 
drank and danced. i even got to see steven "toronto's darling" kado as well. 
debs and diana and i went to mr sub for samiches, and well...the staff were 
too busy in the back room and we decided that they put too much stuff in our 
food. so we decided to start throwing condiments and onions around the 
place. then we ran away.
we decided to go see delgados together...badly drawn boy and sea and cake 
w/broadcast are this week too, but i can't afford all of them. plus i 
wouldn't mind catching blond redhead next week...
oh and i keep buying redbulls...
have a great rest of the morning...
a.

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From John.Clare at xxx.uk  Mon Nov  6 13:07:32 2000
From: John.Clare at xxx.uk (John.Clare at xxx.uk)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:07:32 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Strange Fruit
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> There's not much else to say - I live in London and will be going to that
> new indie night Strange Fruit on Saturday, it sounds wicked - thanks for the
> flyer, whoever sent it.

Hey, I was there too, did anyone else go to this? Fantastic, better than Track
and Field even. And I enjoyed myself even though I had a storming hangover and
could barely string two words together and talk to my friends! Shame about the
drinks prices and crap bar staff..... I didn't realise it was a new night. Does
anyone know how often it'll be on?

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From cbrown2 at xxx.com  Mon Nov  6 14:33:17 2000
From: cbrown2 at xxx.com (cbrown2 at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 14:33:17 +0000
Subject: Sinister: subject? I don't need to stinkin' subject
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afternoon dearies

I'm in a mess (but not in a dress) (cherish that, it could be the only b&s
content :)

I've decided that I may have to retire from drinking, this has been hastened by
the drinkathon that I managed to partake in at Strange Fruit on Saturday night.
After bringing some cynical chums along who don't normally go to that sort of
thing, I ended up having one of those grate drunken evenings where all is
fantastic and smile on my face won't go away.  Funniest moment was seeing my
mate cynical Mike dancing away to La Pastie (he really doesn't like B&S) and
when being asked why, it was apparently "to impress a girl", not the way he was
dancing it wasn't :)))))))

Unfortunately though this high has been karmically balanced by the way I feel
now, kidneys aching, and arms and legs feeling like lead.  Bloody great night
though, good music, not too bad bands (I preferred Tompaulin at Scalarama when
they were a bit ... erm.... bigger and didn't go ssssssshhhhhhhhhh quite so
much!  I am not a naughty schoolboy, even if I do feel like one occasionally :-)

Lots of you were there and you know who you are, suffice to say a good show was
made by the sinister congregation and some of us actually managed to be still
dancing when the lights went up.  I'll be going to the next one.


One a different theme is anyone else going to see those lovely Teenage fanclub
boys on Wednesday, I'll be the tall drunk one down the front....D'oh!


rockers and rollers, I salute you

Chrisx

PS Mr Robinson, how can you put on one of my biggest favourites of the moment at
one of the finest establishments in the capital on the day I'm supposed to be
travelling oop North??  Boo!  Mind you, the trains might have packed up
completely by then so I won't get to go anywhere


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From elenita99 at xxx.com  Mon Nov  6 14:34:36 2000
From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita99)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:34:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: Heaven is coming down to hold me...
Message-ID: <385741832.973521276957.JavaMail.root@web582-mc>

Hello friends,

*auction*
I've finally decided the talent I want to bid on for the auction (as I can't
afford Struan chauffeur services for my birthday, which is a shame really).
So I placed a bid, with moral and financial support from Velocity(so we can
share the talent and raise more money, of course). And we have instantly
been outbid by someone who placed a Maximum Price on that convoited talent.
Mr Biondino, be careful, I might know who you are :) And I might even win
the lottery or get "Granny's birthday money" soon and fight back on that
auction.

*family tree*
My whole family has been here for 4 days this week, this meaning 2 parents
and 2 brothers. My God, I just ended so exhausted. They finally went and I
went back to bed straight after they were gone and slept until the
afternoon. Being a tourist guide is such a hard job.It was nice anyway, I
have been fed like a duck during 4 days, and took them to all the nice
restaurants I've been sing fo a month and unable to afford. Eh eh eh.

We also went to the zoo and it was ace, it was the biggest one I've ever
seen and we spent hours in it running around to see the animals. In case you
are interested, highlights were the scary crocodiles, the talking parrots
("hola, hola" it was not a catalan one ;), the huuuuge albinos gorilla and
the massive bears. I wanted to feed them with my little bro but my mum
wouldnt let me.
Well apart from the zoo we also visited more cultural stuff, but the zoo was
the best, really.

*bailando en la oscuridad*
As Peter and Jordi left me on my own to go and see "Dancer in the dark", I
went on my own yesterday. Good move to go on my own (and without make-up), I
was just looking like nothing presentable going out of the cinema. I hope I
didn't upset my cinema neighbours too much, I have been crying sort of all
the way long. I think I hadn't cried that much since "Breaking the waves"
(well and also when I thought E.T was dead, but I was 8).

The film is beautiful, really. And I am very very impressed with Bjork
performance as an actress. After 3 minutes she just was Selma so much, and I
stopped seeing her as Bjork. As for Catherine Deneuve, "grande dame" of
French cinema, as they say, well I hope none of you laughed at her dreadful
accent :)

*flatmates*
It appears that, added to the fact they are so unhappy, my flatmates
(flatmates being here used as a common term, they are not my mates, right?)
seem to think that paying the bills is not a mandatory thing nowadays. So we
had last week a letter saying that we will be without water on the 14th, due
to unpaid bills since August. I personally think that nowadays living
without water is a bit unconvenient. So I will probably move out sometime
this week, as I have no intention of paying unpaid bills to keep living with
gloomy flatmates. One month, new personal record of shorter stay in a flat.

OK I am off now, next matter of the day being "how to explain to a lazy
Catalan that in a "group work" all the people are indeed supposed to work".
Wish me luck.

Have a good week all
Elena


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From Lorraine.Hosie at xxx.uk  Mon Nov  6 16:47:59 2000
From: Lorraine.Hosie at xxx.uk (Lorraine Hosie)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:47:59 -0000 
Subject: Sinister: Unleash the Sasquatch
Message-ID: <32AC18DA9FA9D411A92C0008C75B1CD51742FA@MAIL>

***Don't make me unleash the sasquatch
I know you don't really wanna unleash the sasquatch***

Ooooo... isn't it wintery - the sasquatch is rousing from his icy blankie
and getting ready to terrorise my tootsies. (Insert shiver here).

(If you're in Australia or some other summer-come-winter land you won't be
feeling the cold, and are prolly singing "Unleash the Suncream" to the tune
of Craig David but, please, just try to imagine life below zero for a
moment.)

Top 5 things about cold weather are:

1. Knee high socks (legwarmers for the new millennium)
2. Rosy Cheeks (make my whey-face visibly more appealing)
3. Tweed (need I say more?)
4. Staying in (see above)
5. Good telly (see: movies and new ITV draahma section)

The eternal optimist, my glass is always half full (of toddy), even when my
blood vessels are half empty (bad circulation - hereditary).

I'd love to talk some more (about the weather), but my fingertips are
turning white.  

B&S content:  In my knee-high socks, I too can be a Fox in the Snow.

S'like that, it is.
Luv 
Loz

p.s. To those who know me, I have not gone fishin' or decided to ignore you
- I am very bizzy getting a-head in advertising.

p.p.s. Does anybody anywhere happen know someone called Will Stevenson who
used to go to Uni in Sheffield - would be about 25/26 by now?  If so, please
contact me. Ta!





 






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From jordiet at xxx.com  Mon Nov  6 18:58:23 2000
From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano)
Date: 6 Nov 2000 18:58:23 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Heaven is coming down to hold me...
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From ac484 at xxx.edu  Mon Nov  6 12:55:02 2000
From: ac484 at xxx.edu (Adam Conover)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 07:55:02 -0500
Subject: Sinister: jen jen jen sbragia!
Message-ID: <3A0663D6.12030.3D58E18@localhost>


On 3 Nov 2000, at 10:04, Jason McKinnon muttered into a little tape
recorder:

> Ian,
>
> Back in the early 90's (like that's a long time ago!), I was living in the
> Northwestern Part of the U.S. in Oregon to be precise. During my stay there,
> I began to notice (both in clubs and on the radio) these girlbands who
> sounded like the Go-Go's but with a more musical and honest edge.  I think
> someone along the way named it "CuddleCore".

yeah, cuddle-core! jen sbragia does cuddle-core, and she's great. i
just got a split that she's on, AND the GO SAILOR single from
slumberland that she did the SLEEVE for. she's GRATE. not PANTS. (i
hope i got my brit-slang right...)

jen sbragia is great. it's especially grate to say "sbragia". "suh-
BRAG-ia." everyone say it. oh, now it's time for mozarella sticks. i
suggest for next time that we all tell our special jen sbragia
stories.

- adam
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From jonnylewis at xxx.uk  Mon Nov  6 21:02:35 2000
From: jonnylewis at xxx.uk (Jonathan Lewis)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:02:35 -0000
Subject: Sinister: always looking for the sun
Message-ID: <001d01c04834$e40f96a0$1421893e@oemcomputer>

hullo

out of the sinister nursery at last. Thanks for all your posts. I've liked
them. Especially to idleberry, whose website led me here.

I'm in London, and training to be a teacher. It's good. The kids talk more
sense than the teachers most of the time.

I have some favourite B&S songs, and they are 'La Pastie...', 'Slow
Graffiti', 'Sleep the Clock Around', 'I Could be Dreaming', and all the
others. I saw the band at the Union Chapel ages and ages ago. Saw GYBE there
too, and Sigur Ros, and Dirty Three, and wish I could live in that drafty
wooden O of a venue.

Expect the occasional contribution from me to this list. I don't have much
to say, and may be too busy marking.

jonny lewis

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From jhunt at xxx.org  Mon Nov  6 21:42:02 2000
From: jhunt at xxx.org (Jeff Hunt)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:42:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: jen jen jen sbragia!
In-Reply-To: <3A0663D6.12030.3D58E18@localhost>
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> jen sbragia is great. it's especially grate to say "sbragia". "suh-
> BRAG-ia." everyone say it. oh, now it's time for mozarella sticks. i
> suggest for next time that we all tell our special jen sbragia
> stories.

I'm a personal friend of Jen's, and her name is pronounced
"Sprah-zsuh" (sort of like Zsa Zsa Gabor)

Just thought you would like to know :)

Jeff

--
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jhunt at dropkick.org

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From trarvild at xxx.se  Mon Nov  6 21:38:53 2000
From: trarvild at xxx.se (Katarina Karlsson)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:38:53 +0100
Subject: SV: Sinister: french tv going p!o!p!
Message-ID: <20001106215358.CLPL21870.fep03-svc.swip.net@cola>

Hello,

Only an "important B&S fact" from Sweden in this mail.

> I recently noticed more and more documentaries on the telly with cool 
> soundtracks.
> The other day it was the very long intro of "Gene Clarke" by Teenage 
> Fanclub, and last night it was a Vic Chesnutt song... on a documentary 
> about death penalty in the US...
> I never heard B&S as tv soundtrack yet, but who knows?

There were a really good documentary "Inte utan min badbomb" here last
year. It was about peoples barthrooms and theire relations to them and when
they showed a really untidy bathroom and interviued the owner they did it
to the sweet tunes of Dirty Dream #2. The B&S moment were an extra happy
surprise in the end of this fasinating documentary. 20 or maybe 30
thrilling minutes! Thank you Swedish tv for supporting this kind of
programs!!  There  is a documentary for all kinds of music and I think that
B&S were perfect for the untidy bathroom genre. 

It's late for me now and, I don't know why but sudenly I have to listen to
Put The Book Back On the Shelf.

Goodnighthugs

Katarina  




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From prbar at xxx.com  Tue Nov  7 00:02:20 2000
From: prbar at xxx.com (Phillip Runion)
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 00:02:20 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Smurf Sandwiches
Message-ID: <F886IHupeyyfIIhs6hd0000bed7@hotmail.com>

for some odd reason i had a dream last night with Joan of Dark, Velocity 
Farewell, and Mr. Brier Random in it. I knew that it was them because my 
synapsis (or what have you) told me so, plus i've seen brier's picture. 
Apparently you were all buying perfume. V was taller than J and B looked out 
into the audience quizically, which had to have been me. After that i walked 
into my grade school and ran into my highschool buddies.
Bra'man ate sammiches too; wish sammiches. . . .mmmmm.
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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com  Tue Nov  7 00:16:46 2000
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:16:46 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Pray For A Flood?
Message-ID: <000001c04852$06f4d280$f65601d5@default>

Hi Squirrels,

Its a Gentle Waves* release day, so I'll surprise Peter by mentioning them,
even though I haven't had time to listen to the album yet. Its longer than
the last one & I actually like Falling From Grace already, which wouldn't
sound out of place on FYHC,YWLAP. Perhaps its the harpsichord, but probably
its the bass-playing & string arrangement that does it :)

Nice to see that everyone has been very Genteel recently by stopping short
of repeating Don Pedro's Genital Warts tag.

Bum! Except for me it would seem.


Jeepster Records International still put cards in their products saying of
their web-site/news mailing list: "We send out news messages the moment we
have them, and it remains the fastest way to hear the news." Hmmm. Is that
statement still true? Surely you can hear what's going on much more quickly
via the band's own site, nme.com, or more ironic still, Marketing Week.


UK-centric bit, sorry. Very Merry Penguin Martin Robinson tells me
Sodastream are playing an additional date at the Betsey Trotwood on the 18th
of November (after the Borders in-store) so be there or be square. I've been
re-listening to their oeuvre this week and its a treasure, sounding even
better after a little break.


There should be more than this, but I'm going to read the Select article
(page 68, magazine rack browsers) again first.


Love,

Minun nimeni on David, ja asun Essexissä

(* solo project of Isobel Campbell, member of Belle and Sebastian#)

(# check the archives)

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From ourpeppermintscene at xxx.com  Mon Nov  6 23:56:19 2000
From: ourpeppermintscene at xxx.com (keith mclachlan)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:56:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: vajpayeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Message-ID: <20001106235619.424.qmail@web2301.mail.yahoo.com>

someone mentioned elliot smith, i am going to see him
tonight but i really do not want to.  i saw him a few
years back when he was opening for the tindersticks
and gosh he was dreamy, all deer in the headlights and
quiveringly charming as he strummed his lonely songs
all by his lonesome but ack i saw him last year or
earlier this year or something like that and it was
rawking as he was with quasi kinney and it was
dreadful except for the encore when he played by
himself as he had back when he opened for the
tindersticks and he was lovely.  i already have my
shampoo care package for him though.

red bulls are big bags of rock salt crammed into a
little can right?  maybe they might be useful if you
were stuck in a snowdrift on the side of the road but
i can't imagine any other time i would want one.

someone else said their students make more sense than
the teachers, this might be the case but i think this
thinking is a bad trend.  i spent last weekend or the
one before watching a 'youth summit' and listened to
the kids whine(quite incoherently in obtuse slang)
about how no one takes them seriously and i thought to
myself thank god no one takes these kids seriously oh
but then the grown-up moderator said something like
'amen, parents start listening to your kids' or
something stupid like that.  i am always distressed at
movies or television programs where the kids have
traded roles with adults and act like the wise ones. 
kids are dumb, always have been always will be why is
this so hard to understand?  well excpet for doogie
howser and that was only cause he had a huge forehead
to pack in his big brain.  the puddle had a hit song
with a tune that was a rip-off of the doogie howser
theme track.  
i ordered the robert scott solo lp, how exciting, he
has written thousands of songs apparently but now he
has no band to release them with now so he is solo bob
scott now and this record is mostly instrumental like
scenes from the south island instrumental which might
be a bit of an overstatement.   however, apparently
the clean may record another album soon.  how
thrilling.  still waiting for cloudboy but aren't we
all.  
thom yorke is voting for nader, nader for dictator!

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From cbrown2 at xxx.com  Tue Nov  7 15:09:56 2000
From: cbrown2 at xxx.com (cbrown2 at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 15:09:56 +0000
Subject: Sinister: your handy information service
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Hiya chaps and chapesses, a little semi-b&s related info

For those of you with Sky Digital (ooh that's me!) the following is on on
Thursday on BBC Choice Scotland

 Chart Slice Thu 9 Nov, 21:30 - 22:00  30 mins

>From Scotland, there's the new video by The Gentle Waves.

I shall endeavour to tape it too

I had a question too for you lot, I might be popping up to Glasgow for new year
(sorry Ms Alder, Hogmanay)
 with my beloved and wondered whether it'd be as packed and chaotic as Embra and
 what's going on up there and stuff
I'd be enormously thankful for any suggestions :-)  thanks

once again, I salute you all

Chrisx


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From martyg10 at xxx.com  Tue Nov  7 15:52:29 2000
From: martyg10 at xxx.com (Marty GGGGG)
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 15:52:29 GMT
Subject: Sinister: A thousand thank-you's......
Message-ID: <F179xDAeys8FSA4AleL0000a5f6@hotmail.com>

In fact, a hundred thousand thank you's to the Boston Sini-stars for looking 
after me on my recent visit.
Cheers to Mike, Taryn, Kev (ta for the cd and the cynicism), Poth (cynicism 
also worth a mention), Tanya (ta for the CD), Dan (cheers for the Battle of 
the Planets viewing - awesome!!). Thanks to Mr. Damon Gough for confusing 
and entertaining us all in equal measure. Thanks to Libby for keeping me 
warm at night(!) And finally, huge slobbery soppy wet kisses and hugs to 
MARCY, you're an absolute STAR!

B & S content, 'Legal Man' filled the floor at 'The Pill'.

Belated thanks also to BRIAN for babysitting / overseeing our recent NYC 
invasion...your patience knows no bounds my friend.....
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From dr_rothwang at xxx.com  Tue Nov  7 17:03:24 2000
From: dr_rothwang at xxx.com (Rikard Johansson)
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 17:03:24 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Pleeeeaaase come to sweden!!..
Message-ID: <F646Mma0n7J95K7aI4z0000ca5c@hotmail.com>

Marty wrote:
>B & S content, 'Legal Man' filled the floor at 'The Pill'.

Why does things like that just never happen here in Sweden? I must be born 
in wrong part of the world or something..darn..

Well, probably because B&S has not yet visited sweden. People here looks 
like questionmarks when asking if they've ever heard Belle & Sebastian. So, 
I've made it my mission to influence people in listening to them(which means 
that "le pastie.." is played at least four times whenever there is a party 
at my place).

/Rikard, from the retarded city of Stockholm where the people haven't 
discovered the greatness of B&S.



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From furry_mwng at xxx.com  Tue Nov  7 17:37:10 2000
From: furry_mwng at xxx.com (Mwng)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:37:10 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Did you see Newsround
Message-ID: <OE14XsNQptgFrYILoyg00000052@hotmail.com>

Most amusing.  They had that black guy reporting from the Millinium Dome and
the attempted heist of those diamonds.  There was a problem and there was no
sound except for the woman in the control room.  You could hear her sighing
and then say 'Shit', just then the report ended and some hastley improv
coverage on the US election.  some bloke with a doll, wrapped up in the
stars and stripes.  I don't understand.  Anyway, is there anyone here that
is currently attending or has attended The University of Westminster.

I know this is list abuse but I'd like to know about it 'cause it's possibly
the next three years of my life.  If you have/are there, please mail me
privatly.

MWNG

PS, Where the hell is GHD
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From JOA00MAR at xxx.uk  Tue Nov  7 18:37:16 2000
From: JOA00MAR at xxx.uk (Jules Markham)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:37:16 -0000
Subject: Sinister: it's all richard bransons fault
Message-ID: <287F2D502E@blackmoor.shef.ac.uk>

hey little sinister people,
this is a mail via the lovely mikey as I havent got access to my own 
computer at the moment. I'm stranded in sheffield at the moment, 
as my town is currently flooded, and the trains are cancelled 
indefinatly. I personally blame richard branson, he cant get a 
bloody balloon across the atlanic, so why the hell did he get his 
own train company?!!
Why am I telling you all this? Because some of you sinister people 
have asked me for copies of 'raindogs', the black fox fables book, 
but I've been unable to send them, being 200 miles from home and 
all that. So apologies, but I wont be able to send them out until I 
get back, which will be in a few more days  (hopefully!)
so sorry, it's all richard bransons fault, blame him (the hairy little 
gobshite!)
well, must go now. I've promised to cook mikey something exciting 
with vegetables, no particular reason why- I just love him to bits!!!!!

see you soon!
jules 

(ps. honey-I got me a sinister boy, fnaaaar!)
(mikey has now gone pink with embarassment-har har har!)
 
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From pinefox at xxx.com  Tue Nov  7 21:09:51 2000
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 21:09:51 GMT
Subject: Sinister: on the one day we were young
Message-ID: <F33mXKCnzNwRC6HixqD0000026a@hotmail.com>


I felt I ought to reply to PJ Miller. He's as lonely as a log, or something. 
I think that's what he said. No wonder he's lonely, few folks seem to answer 
what he says. Perhaps they can't read Spanish. It's the loving tongue, but 
she never spoke it, ni, poked it, to me.

>>>Sorry to hear about Nick Drake being dead. Let's hope he gets well soon. 
>>>A couple of cider armadilloes and he'll be right as rain.

What's that Campbell line - it will all be over when you're dead? I listened 
to TBWTAS for the first time in ages today. Feelings?
1998. September. Green. The old gone smells of the Poetry Caf�. But also, I 
found it hard to get sufficiently defamiliarized from the LP to enjoy it 
that much. In other words, I am surprised to say that, depite not having 
heard it in a while, I perhaps need to go a still longer while before I hear 
it again.

I think I would react differently to FYHCYWLAP. I have a strangely good vibe 
about that record. It's really odd how things turn out, as Eugene Debs once 
remarked.

>>>I suppose it might grow on me, but I'm not going to give it a chance.

This is nicely put.

>>>We went over 24 hours without a post, surely a record? I blame weblogs.

I know you do. Whatever they may be. But I am touched at the attentiveness 
with which you scan these things. *Someone* has to keep bothering.

>>>Me and Jordi

'Cruyff', if you please.

>>>Is it Gentle Waves release day? That should keep the list busy for an 
>>>hour or two. Or at least it would have done in the past.

The past, the past. Did we really all live there once? Or do we still?

>>>Have a great time in New York, Steve. Don't forget to go and see that 
>>>picture of The Foxgloves in action.

Action is our middle name. We have to share it. That's why we still haven't 
got much action to go round.

>>>Obviously you'll have to clamber over the swooning lumberjacks to get to 
>>>it. If you hear someone shout "TIMBER!!!" get out of the way sharpish, or 
>>>one might fall on you and you'll have to spend the rest of your holiday 
>>>underneath a lumberjack.

It's funny (in two senses) that you should say this, cos it's all true. Just 
wait till you see Papercuts V: Caleb's Legacy. (Are you in it, by the way? I 
hope so.)

>>>And somehow that really impressed me.

Aw.

By the way,

!
!!
!!!

Go,

Hillary,

Go
!!!
!!
!

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From ac484 at xxx.edu  Tue Nov  7 17:15:06 2000
From: ac484 at xxx.edu (Adam Conover)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:15:06 -0500
Subject: Sinister: jen jen jen sbragia!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0011061340570.9908-100000@lily.dropkick.org>
References: <3A0663D6.12030.3D58E18@localhost>
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On 6 Nov 2000, at 13:42, Jeff Hunt muttered into a little tape recorder:

> > jen sbragia is great. it's especially grate to say "sbragia". "suh-
> > BRAG-ia." everyone say it. oh, now it's time for mozarella sticks. i
> > suggest for next time that we all tell our special jen sbragia
> > stories.
> 
> I'm a personal friend of Jen's, and her name is pronounced
> "Sprah-zsuh" (sort of like Zsa Zsa Gabor)
> 
> Just thought you would like to know :)

you've ruined my life, and humiliated me before the entire sinister 
list organization. consider us enemies!

and my point still stands: "suh-BRAG-ia" is really fun to say.

- adam

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From ynoh at xxx.edu  Wed Nov  8 06:51:27 2000
From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh)
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 01:51:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: Does he mean what he says when he says what he means?
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.04.10011080113290.8081-100000@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu>


I love how 'just' is ambiguous in this line:

It's just we feel she gets distracted.

PF, if you ever read this, could you please tell us what you meant?

I love the ambiguity of 'too' in these lines:

I'm not too proud to say that I'm okay with 
The girl next door who's famous for showing her chest

(Let's say the sung version is authentic.)

Stuart, if you ever read this, could you please tell us what you meant?

My students are smart.  They saw that "The missionaries are too hot to
eat" could mean that they are too hot to be eaten.  And some of them even
laughed.  That was very kind of them.  How can I complain, unless I work
twice as hard as I do now?

I would bet that Peter Miller is not at all like the photo of him in the
sinister pages.  He must be properly English, i.e. pale, to wear a pink
shirt!  Then we could sympathize with his suffering in a foreign clime.

I can't wait to hear Suburban Light!

Yours truly with love and affection,
Youn


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From mikelsen at xxx.nz  Wed Nov  8 09:23:53 2000
From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen)
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 22:23:53 +1300
Subject: Sinister: Jeepster? Where did it all go wrong?
Message-ID: <003b01c04965$b4d42360$536137d2@mikelsen>

Sorry for snding this short bitter little rants so often lately, but I left
this part out of yesterdays post by mistake.

***JEEPSTER***
***WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG?***
Remember when subscribing to Jeepster news meant that you used to get news
about new B&S related stuff *before* you read it in the NME? (As opposed to,
say two weeks afterwards, like I got about the Christmas album. And no news
at all about new Gentle Waves stuff)

So today, it being AFTER the release date of said Gentle Waves items, I went
online to order them. And they're not listed in the mail order shop on the
site. I mean, for heaven's sake, they were in todays "New Music at CD Now"
spam e-mail letter I get every week.

I have no idea how a once incredibly efficient and user friendly site/label
has seemingly become so uncommunicative and unhelpful over the last six
months. Not being able to pre-order forthcoming releases is extremely
inconvenient, especially if you live on the other side of the world and
would like to get your stuff reasonably close to it's actual UK release date
....

I actually wrote an essay for my Tech course last year, all about how
wonderful Jeepster was, as an example of the great things indie labels can
do on the web by making it easy for their overseas fans to by their records
quickly.

So now I may have to sell my soul and by the new Gentle Waves CDs, and "It's
a Cool Cool Christmas" off some big multinational.

I'm really sorry, Jeepster ... I always swore I'd support indie labels, but
jeepers!, you've got to make the CDs available, right?

Signing off .....

Lawrence Mikkelsen


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From pcxas at xxx.uk  Wed Nov  8 15:16:44 2000
From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz)
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:16:44 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: the language of love and the love of languages
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FYHCywlkap never gave me any impressively good vibes.From the distance,it
was the sitar;looking more closely,the season,the place, being
distinguished in the background of some smoky room, some other
drunken party , it was not a good
start for what it was.I was hearing but not listening.
Nico's husky phrasing keeps me company again in my mind,not need to be
played, but I play IFYAS again instead.I ignored tweeness as a concept
when I first found it and only spoke love tongues.It would have never been
branded with the closest translation I come up with.


Playing the game of choosing somebody else's (public) lives to be lived
instead of mine, I would not have minded taking Clare Wadd's place. Or at
least to write how she writes,because the stuff our streams of
consciousness seem to have a lot in common,only that she knows how to put
it nicely and beautifully.If anyone out there still has the time or the
fancy,please read Tangents every month,or every now and then.It will be
your good action of the day.


My students are not particularly smart,though most of them are quite
lovable.They trust computers,codes,formulae;it goes beyond trust,they
believe in them with a faith that goes too far to be smart.However,I am
someone else's student as well, and don't think he would regard me as
smart exactly. He thinks I am
lazy,disinterested,unfocused,volatile. Femenine as its worst.But he is
somehow the disciple of someone else.And this last one, who will perhaps
make it to the short list of Nobel Prizes some day,lost his most brilliant
student ( a she,by the way) to the industry of entertainment.


Sincerely (honestly I mean) yours


Arantxa



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From tweebunny at xxx.uk  Wed Nov  8 15:43:09 2000
From: tweebunny at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?The=20Twee=20Bunny?=)
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:43:09 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Hurrah! I have a voice!
Message-ID: <20001108154309.68536.qmail@web10308.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi there.

*mwah* *mwah* *mwah*

After sitting alone playing with my cuuuuuute little
building blocks in the nursery, I finally have a voice
all of my very own. I'm so happy I could just *skip!*

Now to introduce meself:

I'm the TWEEBUNNY!!! Yay!

Excitably cute in all social circles. Even posh ones.
Although I don't like any of those funny horse derves.
Unless they're made of carrot of course!

I love to hope around with my other bunny friends and
generally have a nice time all round. Hugs are always
welcome.

Content? I harassed Chris Geddes last week. Didn't
mean to. I stood on his toe and turned around to
apologise and he was cowering away. Aww, cuuuute!

See y'all sooooooon :) :) :)

=====
*******-- The Twee Bunny --********
*- Tweenybopping since Tigermilk -*
********- *kiss* *kiss* -**********

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From colinboy21 at xxx.com  Wed Nov  8 17:22:55 2000
From: colinboy21 at xxx.com (colin thornton)
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 17:22:55 GMT
Subject: Sinister: B&S in Mojo and on MTV
Message-ID: <F97jcMzfoV1qdiixjnz0000ef57@hotmail.com>

I just had a chance to read the latest Mojo magazine with articles on 
Isobel's french film collection and Chris's Northern Soul vinyl collection.  
They both have very wierd tastes, and the article seemed very random to me.  
It was still nice to see their pictures, even though Isobel's publicity 
photo never changes.

Belle and Sebastian's "Wrong Girl" was delicately placed in the background 
of the Real World finale promo on MTV.  If you listen closely, you can hear 
Mick's little trumpet solo that sounds so funky.  This is pretty damn cool- 
my favorite TV show with my favorite musical group.

Twee City,
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From nik_ovenden at xxx.com  Wed Nov  8 17:23:21 2000
From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden)
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 09:23:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Clinton be pleased...another Bush in the Whitehouse...arf arf
Message-ID: <20001108172321.15235.qmail@web2103.mail.yahoo.com>

How we (the SW British) have heard that joke so much
in the past few hours...can i not se the 'Simpson'
scriptwriters having a field day!!!
But then...wait?  Gore? hmm...maybe clinton is less of
a fan of that...but it's another democrat...
oh, wait, Bush is in the lead again! 
or is he?
You sodding americans with your confusing electoral
system...now it is claimed that servicemen in Korea
who are residents of Florida have to return their
votes.
WHAT'S GOING ON?!!
despite this, my new controversial topic has to be the
elections.  despite the floods in most of our fair
country (and apologies to all of you who are onder
15ft of water...), it is safe to say that the
Presidential elections are tres nutty.
I would rather have Gore, after finding Texas (which
is Bush's state) is No1 for executions, polluted city
and underinsurance, while it is 47th in state and 50th
in medical spending (yee-haw) plus his brutal and
unnecessary plans to rape alaska's nature reserves for
oil.
Comments, texans?  i know you've all debated this
before, but your news takes a strangled, delayed past
to our [rainy] shores...

on a lighter note...
GENTLE WAVES
Much better than last time, i think.  Stuie M has done
the string arrangements, and they are tres Stuie...

JEEPSTER
Jeepster's site is slowly decomposing, is it not?
In fact, did anyone discover Looper's reason for
quitting the label?
How much of the xmas album cost will go to the Big
Issue?  "profits" is such an ambiguous word, since
accountants are so good at "cooking with numbers"

FLOODS/PETROL CRISIS
our Geography class have spotted a wasted opportunity
from our dismal government yet again.
What if they'd announced "OK, you can choose -
reduction in fuel duty or flood defences?" - 2 birds,
one stone.
In fact, truckers should be entitled to 'red' diesel,
and i still fail to see why not.  But then, i advocate
the use of rail freight (one the bloody privatised
rail services get their asses in gear)

DROSS
i found a Snow Patrol 12" with extra S. Pilot
remixes...yippee!
Clearlake's website (www.clearlake.uk.com) is grand,
if ye havenae heard of them...
Select's CD this month has gone all indie on us...PJ
Harvey?  Snow Patrol?  GENTLE WAVES? 
ALFIE??????????  i mean, lee's a sex god, but his
music is soooo not Selectish!!

Once again, in true "uh?  ah?  wuh?  puh?" style i put
my washable ink on your dear pages, and for this i
apologise.

Lotsa Love,
Niko
xxx


PS - my arab friend wants Bush to win "otherwise
America's VP will be a Jew".  How should i respond?  I
have a bucket of sand and my head ready...
PPS - "orange - minge". "silver - bugger it, i cant
find a word that rhymes with silver".  That good
enough?
PPPS - i'm really confused about the Chris Geddes
thing.  is he having the 4 top bidders round, or 4
nights where the top bidders come round, accompanied
by three friends?  hmmm, i'm scared i paid lots for
only one placemat...

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From pinefox at xxx.com  Wed Nov  8 19:51:19 2000
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 19:51:19 GMT
Subject: Sinister: I Don't Believe In The Son
Message-ID: <F227sjUHQHh2wLCVYl400000795@hotmail.com>


My Fellow

I spent election night in Maine, Tennessee, hunkered down on a bunker bed 
with my goodfriend, Albert J. McLeish, the heterosexual lumberjack from 
Sacramento. We were very disappointed when David Dimbleby, man of the 
millennium in my book [have you read my book? It's called 'David Dimbleby: 
Man of the Millennium; pub. Lilliput Press, 2001], so *casually* (in the 
middle of an interview with an utterly goonish Bush academic!) retracted - 
not to say rescinded, or even revoked, Gore's Floridan victory.

- If you didnae know the resul', mon, said Albert, ye shouldnae hve 
annoonced it.

His protests went for nothing.

Someone, somewhere, cried.


Youn sure is the head of the Ambiguity Police.
She said:

>>>I love how 'just' is ambiguous in this line:
It's just we feel she gets distracted.
PF, if you ever read this, could you please tell us what you meant?

Why, have you heard the song? I am a tad mystified at where you are getting 
your sources from. If I didn't know better I'd think that 'Youn' was a 
clever alias for 'Ally1996'. (Where is he anyway?)

I'm afraid that what I meant was loose rather than ambiguous. It meant 
nothing more interesting than:

It's just [simply / only / merely] that we [her teachers] feel that she [a 
pupil, aged 18 as it happens] gets distracted [by other classmates, rather 
than concentrating on her work; therefore, we advise that you, her 
parent(s), get her to knuckle down (work harder)].

I'm sorry that the result is not more enthralling than that.

>>>I can't wait to hear Suburban Light!
What's that?


Come, Hillary, come.

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 +-+       "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named       +-+
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From JENOWL22 at xxx.com  Wed Nov  8 23:10:48 2000
From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 18:10:48 EST
Subject: Sinister: Because head injuries are right up there high on the comedy factor. Yup.
Message-ID: <36.dc216c7.273b3778@aol.com>

Hewwo,


That subject line was said in my best bitter sarcastic voice.

Because guess what not fun things I've been doing. 

Well on Friday one of the hard kids threw a big massive stone at my head 
which hurt and about five minutes later I fainted all over the floor of the 
Town Centre and this was something that all the people watching found really 
funny, so they just left me there until I came to and then yelled stuff at 
me, and my friend got a bit mad because she was in a hurry and she couldn't 
be doing with my lack of ability to stay conscious, so she put me on a bus 
home.

Then the next day my head really hurt so on Saturday night I my mum dragged 
me to accident and emergency where they said I probably had a fractured skull 
and so I waited for three hours until I passed out from the pain but this 
time no one laughed they just put me on a bed and stuck needles in me and I 
don't really remember much because I was only half conscious but I'm told 
they took x rays and the doctors were a bit tee-ed off because I wasn't 
making much sense.

So that was my big adventure for the weekend.

But my other friend who cares made me go to the police and now they're all 
going to get me for it.

But I was back at school today and everyone seemed to think it was really 
funny and went about congratulating the guys that did it. 

Now I will make up for my sort of roundabout way of explaining that most of 
my sinister e mail got deleted (because I have not been online at all and my 
in box is teensy tiny, and my friend has just got e mail and has sent me 
about 50 chain e mails (literally) telling me that I will have very bad luck 
if i don't forward them) by talking about belle and sebastian.

Or I would if I could think of anything to say.

I was reaeding Ink Movies the other night. It's a shame Stuart David left. He 
was the only one who could grow any stubble. Stubble growing is important to 
a band. It gives it a certain...stubble. 

I really don't like cheese.

Sometimes when I'm reading sinister posts I forget that I'm on sinister and I 
just think 'wow, all these people are sending  me e mails about belle and 
sebastian. They must know that it's my favourite band'. Then I think that I'm 
pretty silly for someone in full time education.

Chris sent me a lovely e mail which made me feel much better.

I have to go now.

Sorry for boring you.

Hugs,
Jen



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From allycook96 at xxx.com  Thu Nov  9 01:38:26 2000
From: allycook96 at xxx.com (Alasdair Cook)
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 01:38:26 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Sex! The Breakfast of Champions!
Message-ID: <LAW2-F233FvFmrQzmYn00009b93@hotmail.com>

Sadly not one on which I feast nearly as often as I'd like. But anyway.

November 2000. Inspiration is sadly lacking. Lloyd Cole's second solo album 
almost energised me today, until my walkman batteries ran out. In some way, 
this is symbolic. List of things to do: Buy ticket to go to London, write 
things for web-based and paper-based publications, get hair cut, get new 
watch strap/watch battery (would new watch be cheaper? No), attempt to 
continue some kind of social life without spending money, gain full-time 
employment.

None of this is very interesting, so instead I'll share with you something I 
found. Apparently this diary was found pinned to the back of a washed up 
whale. It makes for fascinating reading, I think.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
24th June

It has been three hours since the call came to abandon ship, and since the 
rats naturally were given the first lifeboats, myself and my shipmates 
Cabbigan, Jodper and Buvvock are, it seems, the only surviving crew. The 
first Emily Splinters album is currently on my walkman, however it is only 
making me feel more depressed. I shall switch to the radio. Despair! We 
cannot receive Atlantic 252. Ironies...

It seems that we were attacked by a pirate ship, manned by what appeared to 
be the entire remaining cast of 'Dad's Army', both wearing Spiderman 
costumes. Terrifying, to say the least. Pertwee gave the order to fire, and 
the rest I remember only partly, glimpsed through smoke and onion gravy. 
Cook had just served dinner.

Food and water are at a premium, since there isn't any of either. We cannot 
eat the sea-water, for it is tepid. If things continue the way they are, we 
may have to draw straws in order to determine who should be the first to be 
drunk by the others. This is not a situation I relish. Oh, there is no 
relish either. We had a sachet of mayonnaise, but it floated off of it's own 
accord.

No islands have been spotted thus far, though each of us has our eyes 
peeled, if only because it is the only chance we shall ever get to shout 
'Land Ahoy!'. If we do find an island, I pray they have a decent shoe-horn.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

That's all for that day. I may print the next bit if I can be bothered to 
type it out, we'll see.

And all of her reports are fine it's just we feel she gets distracted easily 
by other people crucial yeah she'll have to settle down. Goodbye.

Alasdair xx

PS Alasdair Neil Cook is quite partial to sweetcorn.


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From kittenmouse at xxx.com  Thu Nov  9 06:19:26 2000
From: kittenmouse at xxx.com (kittenmouse radio)
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 23:19:26 -0700
Subject: Sinister: Jeepster website
In-Reply-To: <200011090134.BAA22626@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <B62F8FE3.A77%kittenmouse@hotmail.com>

on 11/8/00 6:34 PM, Lawrence M. wrote:

> ***JEEPSTER***
> ***WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG?***

I'm also curious to know why my computer crashes or freezes up every time I
go to Jeepster's website unless I turn off Java.  Did they program it only
for Windoze?  Anyone else experience this (frequently)?

your pal,
Andrea

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From low_fi25 at xxx.com  Thu Nov  9 09:07:33 2000
From: low_fi25 at xxx.com (Jacob Laurent)
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 09:07:33 GMT
Subject: Sinister: jen jen jen sbragia!
Message-ID: <F2659ik6kvXsn2Yf0sc0000035f@hotmail.com>


hi. it's jacob over in s.f.

need to catch up on my e.mail.
(432 new messages...can you believe it?!)

anyway, i *love* jen sbragia, and i can't
remember the name of her other band...
something about a camp or something...
could someone in the know please post me?

sorry if it's already been posted and i've
either ignored it or inadvertantly deleted it.

evr yrs,
jacob


>From: "Adam Conover" <ac484 at xxx.edu>
>Reply-To: "Adam Conover" <ac484 at bard.edu>
>To: sinister at missprint.org
>Subject: Sinister: jen jen jen sbragia!
>Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 07:55:02 -0500
>
>
>On 3 Nov 2000, at 10:04, Jason McKinnon muttered into a little tape
>recorder:
>
> > Ian,
> >
> > Back in the early 90's (like that's a long time ago!), I was living in 
>the
> > Northwestern Part of the U.S. in Oregon to be precise. During my stay 
>there,
> > I began to notice (both in clubs and on the radio) these girlbands who
> > sounded like the Go-Go's but with a more musical and honest edge.  I 
>think
> > someone along the way named it "CuddleCore".
>
>yeah, cuddle-core! jen sbragia does cuddle-core, and she's great. i
>just got a split that she's on, AND the GO SAILOR single from
>slumberland that she did the SLEEVE for. she's GRATE. not PANTS. (i
>hope i got my brit-slang right...)
>
>jen sbragia is great. it's especially grate to say "sbragia". "suh-
>BRAG-ia." everyone say it. oh, now it's time for mozarella sticks. i
>suggest for next time that we all tell our special jen sbragia
>stories.
>
>- adam
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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Thu Nov  9 09:09:32 2000
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 10:09:32 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Power, Corruption and Leeds
Message-ID: <001501c04a2c$f71d8fa0$ac5c243e@itjfvkli>

Thanks to The Pinefox for calling out to me in my hour of loneliness. It's
nice to see a bit of goalmouth action, even though the pitch is weblogged.
If you can't beat them, join them. I've got a weblog now, devoted to
day-to-day apparitions of The 70s WHO. It's called My 70s WHO Loghouse
Project, and it's pretty much cornered the market, I think. So come on, 70s
WHO, Let's See Action! So far the only action has been George W. Bush trying
to scupper his own chances by using "Won't Get Fooled Again" on the campaign
trail. Top one. Jordi Cruyff scored the other day. A goal, it was. I think
Barcelona should have bribed Leeds to lose instead of bribing Milan to win.
Winning's much more difficult. I had a listen to the German Wrens on a
listening post the other day. My word, Isobel's quite the ice maiden, isn't
she? She could make Paradise Lost sound like a shopping list. That's
Paradise Lost the big poem, not Paradise Lost the death metal group. I must
admit I didn't listen to much of it though, I was worried in case some
fellow B&S fan came up and tried to talk to me. It had nice strings on it,
but man cannot live on strings alone. If I want strings I'll listen to the
Krankhausen Quartet. There's some very pleasant musical sequences in the
film "Oh Brother!", if you like that sort of thing. Let's face it,
Jeepster's new web-unfriendly approach simply puts them on a par with just
about every other record label. And no, I wouldn't have thought that
Christmas album would make a great deal of profit, due to the wilful
exclusion of The Eurythmics. I also found it a bit ironic that the press
release for a Christmas charity record should slag off Band Aid. It would
seem that indie aesthetics stretch to charity work as well, making it uncool
to make loads of money. But what would we do without Jeepster? We'd be lost.
Pinefox, I don't know if I'm in Papercuts or not. Trousers is too busy
hand-rotating the top of the Post Office Tower. But I'm working on stuff,
I'm working on stuff. Based on the homosexual gangster orgy in
"Performance". Someone asked about Go-Kart Mozart. It's got some crackers on
it, like "Sailor Boy" and "Drinkin' Um Bongo" and another junkie song and
some other stuff that doesn't really wear as well. In short, better than
"Novelty Rock" but not as good as the others. There's a strong tragic
undercurrent to it. I would try and download it for free instead of coughing
up for it, if at all possible. I hope Lawrence doesn't go back to his Felt
ways, that would be a terrible waste.

Peter

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From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk  Thu Nov  9 12:17:34 2000
From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:17:34 -0000 
Subject: Sinister: Beepsternews: Update
Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E43027753E3@lotus.ntu.ac.uk>

> Beepster headlines
> 
> As always, you're the first to hear the latest news about Beepster
> artists.
> 
> The Christmas album:
> This has almost been completed now. Belle and Sebastian are going back
> into the studio on Monday to re-record their version of Wham's "Last
> Christmas", as they are not quite happy with the sound yet. Due to this
> short delay, unfortunately the release date of the album has had to be put
> back until February 13th.
> 
> Belle and Sebastian:
> No new releases are currently planned. No concerts are currently planned.
> But never mind, Stuart Murdoch has organised a charity auction, so we'll
> use that to get as much publicity as possible in the meantime.
> 
> Genital Warts:
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> 
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From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk  Thu Nov  9 13:58:50 2000
From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:58:50 BST
Subject: Sinister: (Fwd) Use the Sinister list for something useful...
Message-ID: <11BDCA2C03A0@mail1.mcc.ac.uk>

hey there sinistereenies,
  been meaning to post for a while and i haven't really got time to 
do it know as i have to be in a scary seminar in ten minutes, and 
i'll get shouted at if i'm late.

incidentally, does anyone else have problems with the word seminar? 
i've given up trying to pronounce it and have started saying cinema 
instead. 

 anyway, the reason for posting is because i've been forwarding bits 
of your messages to my boyfriend for various reasons and he's sent me 
back this:
------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
From:          "djpain" <djpain at xxx.net>
To:            <mbbx9ff2 at stud.man.ac.uk>
Subject:       Use the Sinister list for something useful...
Date:          Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:02:24 -0000

Big Favour Fiona,
Post to Sinister...

Manchester Meet Up...
Friday 17th November 2000, The Star & Garter.
10pm - 2am...

Please! Please!
It says in Alive that it's a B&S night you see...

So please post to Sinister.....

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so i have, i.e. i'm abusing the list to advertise a lovely little 
indie night next friday at the star & garter in manchester which 
isn't strictly a b+s night, but i can assure you they will get a few 
plays.

phew, thats my duty done for today, oh i've got so many things to say 
but now i've only got 6 minutes to get to the arts building, so i'll 
speak to you again soon.

oh, and if anyone knows anything about satire in the first book of 
gulliver's travels than tell me anything at all,its 20% of my mark 
and i don't have a clue(well i'm just a bit reluctant to research 
into too much 18th century politics).

thats me for today then,

                  love and irn-bru,
                                                fiona.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/worldofirnbru
-club for twee scottish pop - see idleberry!!!
   no, you don't actually see her, that was me saying 'see' addressed 
to idleberry.
 nevermind, shit 2 minutes.
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From angel_blackwell at xxx.com  Thu Nov  9 15:09:20 2000
From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (angel blackwell)
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 10:09:20 EST
Subject: Sinister: take it off, take it all off
Message-ID: <F100Jecd92bXCH5n00z00005afb@hotmail.com>

well, just when you thought that belle and whosit couldn't get commercial 
appeel...
i just read this on our weekly rag's site...

"Taboo took the boy theme further, with its runway stage -- disturbingly 
decorated with juvenilia such as stuffed Garfields -- featuring barely legal 
lads who probably should have been home doing their homework. The age of the 
spectators here seemed inversely proportional to that of the performers -- 
definitely a more pedophilic feel. I never thought I'd live to see a male 
stripper dance to Belle and Sebastian's "The Boy With the Arab Strap," but I 
did."

This peeler bar is in montreal, and how sinister is that???
first isobel having a drag queen impersonate her and now little boys taking 
their clothes off to stuart singing...and you thought that canadians were 
boring...

ummm...my kewl new hair is fading...lesson learnt, gay men should not dye 
their own hair...

hey all you little #sinister sweeties...

a.

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From meanies at xxx.uk  Thu Nov  9 15:58:30 2000
From: meanies at xxx.uk (Mick Cooke)
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 15:58:30 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Sodastream Play Glasgow!
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20001109155830.0080f420@mail.force9.net>

Hi there,

Sorry I haven't posted in a while. I only seem to post when I have
information to impart. But this is good information.

The sublime Aussie popsters Sodastream will be playing Hyndland Church Hall
in Glasgow on Friday the 17th November. And Sinisterines will be familiar
with the support act, the wonderful acoustic sounds of Mr. Christopher
Leonard. And I'll be playing a few records too. 

Here's the details:

Friday November 17th
Hyndland Church Hall,
24 Novar Drive,
Glasgow

Sodastream
Chris Leonard
Doors 8pm
Advance tickets £3.50 (+booking fee) from Virgin Megastore, Buchanan Street
and Missing Records on both Gt Western Road and Wellington Street. 

Further information can be obtained by writing to dr.daze at ecosse.net

Hope to see you there,

Mick
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From oooon at xxx.com  Thu Nov  9 16:53:08 2000
From: oooon at xxx.com (oooon)
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 23:53:08 +0700
Subject: Sinister: Happy Holiday
Message-ID: <3A0AD673.D24C194B@cscoms.com>

hello everyone,

how are you all?  i'm very pleased to tell you that i've just completed
doing my time in the underworld of work and extra works.
it's been odd. when you don't get to sleep much for a long time.
your thought process seems to slip, a lot like record slipping the
needle.
i keep forgetting if i've eaten or not, for example.  because feeling
tired
and feeling hungry is a bit alike, is it not?  there's a restaurant
opening right in front of my workplace!  talking about a gift
from god.  also just opening in front of my workplace is
a sport information something company.  they being
my neighbour i got a bit curious of what exactly they're doing.
after investigation from various sources, i came to conclusion
that they are in fact a football booker.  which is amazing since
Thailand police are supposed to find gambling of any kind illegal.
but there they are, with the fancy shiny office and receptionists.
although with a lot of curtains and various staff with unspecific
duty.  god give me strength, as burt would say.

what else is new with my life and my beloved and approaching
winter country...bangkok is getting so cool!  i've been dining
by the river a lot because of that.  it's fun to get shivering by
the wind once a year. i've just bought the loveliest pink shoe!
by destiny!  i can swear something made me walk to that
shop that i didn't have any business at all to be.  and there
she is, waiting for me.  the only pair.  the only size.  mine.
hahahaha

sorry, i've been into pink so much lately.  oblivious to whatever
the in colour for this season is.  pink is definitely a state of mind.
when you're tired, pink = cheer up and calm down at the
same time.  i've been into dictionary a lot lately too, due to
work.  a lot of good words.  like pelly melly.  it's so Peter Miller.
or was it your nickname last year?  i also saw what majordomo
means.  that's totally funny word.  probably because OMO is
the name of cleaning product here.  and peter, that Who log
you're talking about...it reminds me of the Blair Witch Project.
but have fun!

what else?  my friends had a car accident on saturday night.
like in movie!  the car rolled rolled and turned upside down.
it happened on the bridge, so they're so lucky it didn't rolled
the other way and fell down into the river.  i am even luckier.
due to being told to work on sunday.  or i would have been
in that car.  but my friends are not badly hurt anyway.
only one bleed and wounded and needed stitches. the
rest are totally unharmed, amazingly enough.  only clothes
torn a lot.  so, the lesson in this story is don't drink and race.
amen.

has anyone notice that there's no Thailand in b&s auction?
no one, of course.  but me.  i want to bid stuart's driving
me!  let me quote him again because it gives me such good
kick just picture that in my head heheh

> There is nothing I would like more than to put on
>
> my little black uniform, my cap and my gloves, and
>
> to ferry you about in a dignified manner in Max the black Granada.
>
> I''ll only speak to you when spoken to, if that is what you like
>

i see the bid is now at 135!  by eliaeinhorn US.  without a doubt the
best
thing money can buy!  i'm too broke to fight.  and i'm sure this will go
up
a lot soon.  can someone talk him into double up as a rent driver boy?
at least when i go over.  i promise i'll be very strict and masterly.

isn't it this time Adrian's baby coming out?  Adrian, if possible,
keep the baby in until christmas, so that you can call her/him
Christmas!  like the jame bond girl, i think.  that's such a lovely
name.  and Amanda and Steve is getting married this weekend!
Congratulations!  and it's december soon too.  december is
the happy holiday month.  so please accept my my Happy Holiday
wishes to you all. actually, the baby doesn't have to come out
on christmas to be called Chirstmas.  so no need to hold it.
oon xxx





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From jhunt at xxx.org  Thu Nov  9 19:36:49 2000
From: jhunt at xxx.org (Jeff Hunt)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:36:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: jen jen jen sbragia!
In-Reply-To: <F2659ik6kvXsn2Yf0sc0000035f@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0011091136300.12249-100000@lily.dropkick.org>

On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Jacob Laurent wrote:

> 
> hi. it's jacob over in s.f.
> 
> need to catch up on my e.mail.
> (432 new messages...can you believe it?!)
> 
> anyway, i *love* jen sbragia, and i can't
> remember the name of her other band...
> something about a camp or something...
> could someone in the know please post me?

It's the All Girl Summer Fun Band

Jeff

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From Macarthur at xxx.com  Thu Nov  9 19:30:56 2000
From: Macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 19:30:56 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Same old brand-new you
References: <36.dc216c7.273b3778@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c04a83$d00f2ac0$7c1b073e@com>

Like, Hi

Eric xo said:

>where has all the queerness gone in
>b&s songs? we used to have girls holding hands, jane >having boys or girls
tonight, gay brothers, and lisa meeting >chelsea... now it's all terribly
>terribly straight. this must be rectified.

Hot Damn, you're right! perhaps that's why they don't interest me or lots of
us anymore. I can handle 3..6...9 these days, but not much anything else. I
don't know where the love went. Chart-pop stole me from Belle and Sebastian.
When will Belle and Sebastian fight back? (Also Eric - don't tell anyone in
London on your travels that you are actually foreign. They will assume you
want money or cigarettes and run away. I have also noticed something - if
you're going to ask for directions, ask a Girl. Boys seem to send you off
down the street even if they don't know where the hick they're sending you
for the sake of their own pride. So, take note)

I think Jenowl should change her name to JenOW, it would make much more
sense. I'm sorry to hear the pricks are still kicking out. Luckily, in my
early teens I never really got things thrown at me, but the torrent of
verbal abuse hurt a great deal. I think if I had really had the courage to
ever really retaliate to any of them, I might have got a bit of a smack. But
hell, this is the epitome of upper middle-class rural living, that sort of
thing isn't done.

>saw pretty in pink last night, and again, marvelled at just >how disgusting
molly ringworm's dress is at the prom

Look, no! You simply cannot say this. It was ace. I loved that part of the
film, female impowerment with a New Order soundtrack. It's 'I'm going to the
prom alone but I'm going to look GOOD'. It's funny how whenever I draw a
dress on a bit of paper and start to cut out bits of material to make it, it
never fits. Possibly because when I'm cutting things out, I think in 2-D,
and so the only thing that could wear the damn thing could be a cardboard
cut-out of myself. I might make one.

I must end this letter here. It sounds like someone is throwing a coat
hanger at my door whenever I put the new A1 single on, and I'm going to
investigate.

Erica
x

P.s are most people going to see the Gentle waves on the friday or the
saturday of the spitz gig?

http://www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty/index.html




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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com  Thu Nov  9 22:30:09 2000
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 22:30:09 -0000
Subject: Sinister: this one ROCKS!!
Message-ID: <000101c04a9c$a4b12400$c13e01d5@default>

Hi All,

Spent a bizarre evening yesterday with assorted lovely & lovable members of
the Sinister family at The Spitz watching a purveyor of Belgian loungecore &
The Clientele, who were fantastic despite (or more probably, because of) the
drawbacks of the venue.

Which are:
The shape of the room means that the fuckwits chattering at the bar are very
audible from the stage.

Most of the area being taken up with the chairs & tables surrounding the
stage, a large part of the audience are pushed to the walls, making the
space directly in front of the stage the walkway to transit the room.

Its really obvious when someone gets up from a chair to go for a drink or
pee or whatever, & it looks like they're walking out.

I wouldn't like to perform there, especially if I were reluctant or
sensitive :)


Mr Ovendon wanted to know how much The Big Issue Foundation gets from each
cool Christmas LP: £4 is I think the answer.


Still undecided about A Swansong For You. I think I like a few of the songs,
but its been deposed from the car player already (bad sign) by the shiny
digital Robbo-produced Foxgloves. Today I had to shut the car windows
because tree fellers were fainting as I drove by with songs of Stevenage &
SE* blaring out.


I have however decided about the new improved smutty, raunchy, hard-drinking
rock chick Isobel. She's great & anyone who doesn't like her is horrible.
Maybe Youn could help us out, too. When Select quotes her as saying "Ooh,
that wind's going right up my skirt ... mind you, there are some people who
might like that!" to what do you think the second "that" refers?


Cut, Hillary, Sew :)

David Moore
Weblogged Essex

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From n.barr at xxx.uk  Thu Nov  9 22:30:23 2000
From: n.barr at xxx.uk (Niall Barr)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 22:30:23 -0000
Subject: Sinister: All my friends are joining the pob bandwagon
Message-ID: <3A0B257F.11641.2D7A74@localhost>

Hi people,

HEADINGS
I'm going to do headings today...

GIGS
Lots of people are playing gigs in Glasgow next week... According 
to a drunken trumpet player called Mick that I met in the pub last 
week 'The Gentle Waves' are doing a gig for 'The Beat Room' (BBC 
Choice -Scotland music series) which probably will be in G2 on 
Wednesday 15th. 

The next day V-Twin (including Chris, Stevie and Richard) will be 
on stage in the Arches. The Telstar Ponies will be there too, and 
someone else who's name I've forgotten. V-Twin's singles album is 
now in the shops - £12.99 from Fopp, or £5 from amazon.co.uk... 
The even have a whole row of the new releases stand in HMV!

On Friday it's Sodastream - they weren't going to do a Scottish gig 
this tour because they think we don't have any venues, but Mick 
and Stuart pulled strings, so on Friday 17th they'll be playing 
Hyndland Parish Church Hall at 8 p.m, possibly with a DJ called 
Beans Geddis as well.

CD:UK!
A few months ago we took on a person to do all the really boring 
menial tasks at work that I can't be bothered with. A musician.. 
Musicians are safe because they never succeed... This week he 
took time off to go to London to recruit dancer's for his appearance 
on CD:UK in a couple of weeks. So all go out and prevent people 
buying Operation Blade by Public Domain so he is forced to come 
back to work and I can stop having to set up lecture theatres.. 

GLASGOW SCHOOL OF ART
Andrea, watch out, you might end out looking like this!
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/niall.barr/paintylegs.jpg

Niall.
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From jhunt at xxx.org  Thu Nov  9 22:45:05 2000
From: jhunt at xxx.org (Jeff Hunt)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:45:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: LLBS
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0011091439220.12413-100000@lily.dropkick.org>

Yes, the title stands for "Ladies Love Belle & Sebastian"

Since this my first "Complete" post to Sinister, I guess an introduction
is in order. I'm Jeff, I live in Portland Oregon, I am 18. How's that?

So anyway, out of sheer boredom, I submitted a personal ad into a local
"Alternative NewsWeekly" magazine called The Portland Mercury. The ad
follows:

LOOKING FOR MY PARTNER IN CRIME
I'm a young boy looking for an ookums-cute indie girl to run around town
with. If the following words excite you, then you might be her: Belle &
Sebastian, record shopping, Ground Kontrol, short hair, sweaters, Vespa.

This is will be very interesting. Who wants to bet money that this
will/won't get a response? And for those of you who are not from Portland,
"Ground Kontrol" is a video game arcade featuring old arcade games from
the 1970s and 1980s; games like Missile Command, Pac Man, Frogger, and
Space Invaders. And I've heard B&S on the PA there a few times. 

Yours in the love of fine music,
Jeff

--
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jhunt at dropkick.org

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From gelflingag at xxx.com  Fri Nov 10 01:09:33 2000
From: gelflingag at xxx.com (gelflingag at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:09:33 -0500
Subject: Sinister: EXTERMINATE    EXTERMINATE
Message-ID: <20001109.200934.-165565.0.gelflingag@juno.com>

completely unrelated to anything. does anyone remember the god of all si
fi shows"DR. WHO" ?   i was practically raised on that show. ahh. to see
the tardus in action again would truly be great. and the regenerations
and of corse the witty fourth doctor, mr. tom baker. oh and the darliks
always yelling " EXTERMINATE  EXTERMINATE!!" nothing like garbage cans
with a plunger and a poll to strike fear in the hearts of man. the
cybermen were much more scary. but no foe was as fearsome as "THE
MASTER"!  
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From lleweth at xxx.com  Fri Nov 10 03:50:00 2000
From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 03:50:00 GMT
Subject: Sinister: I used to be confused but now I don't know
Message-ID: <LAW-F123cKTYH6qoonj000001cf@hotmail.com>

Take a walk in the park, take a valium pill
Read the letter you got from the memory girl
But it takes more than this to make sense of the day
Yeah it takes more than milk to get rid of the taste....

It's ME - Laura Llew! Once again, I am posting in order to help your delete 
finger become more dexterious. See, what kind of nice milkmaid I am?  Last 
time I rambled to your poor aching ears, we were in the midst of preparation 
for the best holiday ever - Halloween. Now, we poor Americans are in the 
throes of an election gone awry. If you think about it, Halloween and 
elections are quite similar. They both start out with promises of sweetness 
but only end up leaving you ill and doubled up in cramps wishing it would 
all just GO AWAY.

Stuart Murdoch is in my Journalism class! Oooh, aren't you simply chartreuse 
with envy! Of course, I still haven't figured out what he's doing pretending 
to be a 20 year old American named Andy but he still looks cute in those 
tight teez. I let him know that I was on to him by
commenting that he indeed looks like Stuart Murdoch (which he knows since 
it's OBVIOUSLY him). Of course, he played innocent and ignorant - acting as 
if he had never heard of himself! It was silly but I played the game, even 
offering to make him a tape of Belle and Sebastian. (He's probably just 
wondering if I'll pick what he thinks are his best songs on there.)  I must 
say though that he has an American accent down really well.

I hope that he and you will excuse my lack of list spirit in not
participating in the Auction. I was going to send something in but then the 
deadline hit. That was that. However, I think it's lame that we can't bid on 
items with other services instead of money. Stinkin' capitalist! That is 
fine if you're GEORGE DICKIE but otherwise. Well, I guess it is going to 
charity so I can't really complain. (Ha! I can always complain). I still 
want to offer something even if it can't be bid on. So, I made a list 
(surprise surpise) and if anyone wants anything from here - let me know:

*Ask not what you can do for Llew but what Laura Llew can do for YOU*

5. Lots of listees have mentioned that they can't drive and so I will
patiently tutor you in the ways of the road. I will even teach you how to 
use the turn signal which is a something that is still commonly undiscovered 
to many drivers today.

4. Haven't you always wanted a crocheted bookmark? They're twee! They're 
dainty! They're knot knitted! I would offer to do something larger like a 
blanket but I'm currently in the midst of a PINK CAPE for prissy chrissy. Oh 
yes! What a masterpiece it will be and it shall soon overtake JenOwl's Pedro 
as the most talked about cape on the list.

3. Speaking of JenOw - what kind of hoodlums do they let run around
Scotland fracturing sweet girl's skulls with large rocks??? I guess I can 
relate since in school we also had hard kids, except for they were known as 
'rednecks'. In math class in high school, I had a similiar experience when 
this boy who really hated me (for still unknown reasons) became so enraged 
one day that he TORE off the top of a desk and threw it at my head. My face 
was turned at the time and so I didn't even see it coming. Plus, I have a 
tendencies toward head injuries anyway. (I once had three concussions in 6 
months and I should simply stay inside where I belong). Anyway, my third 
offer is to either RESCUE Jen from that mean evil place or move there to 
become her bodyguard. I can enroll in her school (hey, if I was on a WB show 
I would still be a freshman in hs so I can get away with it) and protect 
her. I'm pretty wimpy (I had to have my little sister open a jar for me 
yesterday) but I have sharp teeth and I can bite hard.
And, no, that last thought cannot be used for an offer for anything else. 
Sorry.

2. I'm quite skilled at picking lots with an emphasis on apartment door's 
deadbolts. With the exception of one night of boredom and deliquency when a 
friend and I snuck into an apartment, rearranged all of the furniture, and 
then quietly left - I only use my skillz for good. So, if you have a habit 
of leaving your keys behind or I dunno, accidently swallowing them - I can 
help!

AND the #1 thing that Ll can do for you:
1. Make a list for you!  (Though Mick Cooke certainly wouldn't put it on the 
B&S top ten list. If MY pixies list isn't good enough for him, nothing ever 
done by me will be!)

I would actually have offered to go on a roadtrip (which I love!) or invited 
whoever to come & stay at my house here in the mountains North Carolina 
(since people always seem to visit the wrong parts of the US). However, I 
would have felt bad because that's the kind of thing that depends on the 
person bidding. I couldn't really handle any psychos, phreaks, homicidal 
maniacs, or anyone else who closely resembles members of my family. But boy 
do I have a crocheted
bookmark that is just SCREAMING your name!

Everyone else claims not to be listening to B&S lately but all of my cd 
slots are filled with the ear candy that is Belle and Sebastian. I keep 
falling in love again with different songs. This week it has been Sleep the 
Clock Around, Dirty Dream #2, and after being serenaded with this song by a 
cute boy yesterday - Judy and the Dream of Horses. I'm currently trying to 
make another B&S compilation tape since the one I made last November is 
obsolete because of the new album. However, I am having *so* much trouble 
and nothing is clicking. So, if any of you had made similar mix tapes and 
found a really good string of b&s songs that flow really well 
pleasepleaseplease let me know so I can steal it.

After all, I am making a copy of this tape for "Andy".

Laura
"meeting all those Laura Llew needs since 1977"

PS- Sorry for confusing the 2 andreas in my last post. They're both darlings 
though and so its easy to get them mixed up.
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 +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper        +-+
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 +-+       "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named       +-+
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From paulinel_s at xxx.com  Fri Nov 10 12:19:22 2000
From: paulinel_s at xxx.com (Pauline L. Shivers)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 04:19:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: If Wishes Could Be Kisses 
Message-ID: <20001110121922.14064.qmail@web6104.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello the Land of Sinister!

So, have you missed me? You have no other choice
really but miss me! It's been a while since my last
post and life has been generous to me as ever!
Oh I've been so busy! I was running around with
Althea's cousin and my cousin too, as I found out,
little Violette Marie de Mesforets! I told you about
her, didn't I? she's so sweet!
We went shopping in Prague! this girl seems to be so
demure!! but really, appearences are deceiving!
So, we went shopping just me and Violette because
Althea is really busy with the boyfriend Egon! Her
parents were away to a trip to Paris for the weekend
so we had a party at her house! You can't imagine what
happened there! Of course my sweet Daniel was there
and I spent the whole weekend with him! He's too sweet
to me actually and I do like my boys to have an edge,
if you know what I mean! So, I'm getting a bit bored
with him... true love is yet to come? I don't know.
Violette came to my house to get dressed up for the
party and pack some clothes as we were going to spend
the weekend at Althea's house!! I swear, we spent more
time trying to decide what underwear we should wear
and take with us than trying to figure out what to
wear for the party... finally, Violette decided she
should wear a white semi-transparent dress... mind,
she wore a nice slip underneath!I told you she is very
shy! 
And I wore the latest possession of my wardrobe, a
very nice silk grey dress; the thing with this dress
is that it looks very conservative if you look at it
from the front, but, well, if I turn you can see that
my whole back is naked! anyway, I thought I should
wear this dress no matter what! I paid a fortune for
it, didn't I? The tricky part was underwear! I wore
black stockings, that's all I'm going to tell you
because if I said anything more honey would kick me
from this list and suggest I should go to another one,
more, erm, adult! And yes, we were ready for the
party!
Big Aunt Myrtles was very worried but I told her that
every aristocratic sprout from Prague was going to be
there and she loves Violette also, so, she finally
gave her permission! Cousin Theodor came with us; I
think Violette likes him a lot; she doesn't know he's
gay yet, and to be honest, he doesn't show it! I think
I have to fill her in with every naughty detail! To be
honest it'd be great if Violette married Theodor;
she's so sweet and he is too! they'd love each other
and look after each other and will lead different
sexual lives! what's wrong with that? nothing
methinks! And we'll get rid of this french horsefaced
floosy too!
So, we went to the party! everyone was there! I saw
this very cute waiter and started talking with him; he
told me he was a poor art student who was doing this
job occasionally and asked me to go to his studio to
see his work! I agreed of course!! I haven't lost it
yet, have I? There was a very intense moment between
the two of us actually which reinforced my desire to
go and visit him at his studio! At one moment he
dropped something on the floor whilst we were talking;
so, he kneeled down to pick it up and whilst he was
getting up he hair was rubbed against my legs; then he
raised his eyes and looked at me! I'm telling you he
took my breath away; and it all looked so innocent!!
Daniel was standing by my side when this happened and
he didn't realise anything! He thinks my "association"
with the lower classes is something admirable and
extremely sweet!! So, who can blame me then?
But something very weird happened to my little
Violette! I guess she's very flirtatious without even
realising it! She was talking with this mexican guy
whose father runs a mobile phone company in Mexico and
sent him over to Europe because of a scandal he caused
when he was caught with the wife of his partner; she
was 20 years older than him! Imagine! Anyway, Violette
was talking with him about stuff and told him she had
always wanted to visit Mexico, so he gave her his
address and told her she could visit whenever she
wanted to! She leaned over to write her phone number
in his phone book when he started biting and kissing
her neck!! I don't know why or how this happened but I
can tell you that Violette didn't like it a bit! She
ran to Theodor who got really protective and tried to
punch the guy on the face but thankfully we avoided
the fight!
Egon was there snogging and dancing with Althea! He
brought me a glass of champagne whilst I was leaning
against the balcony door and asked me how I was etc
etc; I said I was fine and then he said sliding his
hand on my back "you know Pauline, you were always my
first choice"!! And I was so shocked that couldn't
help myself. I just turned to face him - and of course
make him take his hand off my back - and said "Well,
you were never mine! You conceited bastard!" Violette
who witnessed the whole scene came running to me
asking what happened. Now the problem is how we are
going to tell Althea! 
When the party was over, or at least, almost over, as
these parties never end, we went to our rooms. But not
before I take the cute waiter's address! 
We could hear Egon and Althea doing whatever they were
doing! I really cannot understand how Althea fell for
a 'new money' bloke! We were always saying that it's
so much better to be with a commoner than with a new
money guy!
You see, being with a commoner has certain romantic
parametres; makes you look like one of these heroines
in french literature, you know! But being with new
money, well, it's just a disgrace!
The rest of the weekend passed in a harmonic way, at
least on the surface! we went horseriding and Althea
and Violette had a quite intense argument about the
way a lady should be riding her horse; side riding or
normal riding? Violette is side riding and she always
wears these long velvet black dress with a white lace
slip! she looks dreamy! I like riding the proper way!
I think it's more exciting!
Egon kept away from me for the rest of the weekend and
we didn't see the mexican bloke again!
I'm going to the artist-waiter's studio tonight! He's
expecting me! Just the thought of him!! Oh anyway, I
just hope aunt Myrtles learns nothing about it!


               Pauline L. Shivers


that makes sinister all quivers
she's that aristocratic slag
who lives and reigns in Prague



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 +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper        +-+
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From jaffa_cakes at xxx.com  Fri Nov 10 12:40:46 2000
From: jaffa_cakes at xxx.com (Pamela Tait)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 04:40:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: No Wonder I Get Funny Looks All The Time
Message-ID: <13044556.973860046731.JavaMail.imail@slippery>

God, I'm starving. Anyway......do any of you have sort of pet names for
members of Belle & Sebastian. I do. I call Chris Geddes "Cheddii Jedi
Geddii". I call Stuart Murdoch "Stroke My Dog". I call Isobel something not
very nice and I'll refrain from disclosing the name cos I'll get a backlash.
Anyone living in the Glasgow area should check out Chris Geddes @ Yang on a
Tuesday night. On the way out, you have to go upstairs. Remember this as I
walked straight into a mirrored wall and then nearly fell down a cellar. In
fact, while I'm here, all you Glasgow members should mail me and we'll get a
big Christmas meet up sorted out. 

Okay. I'll go now....

Be safe, people.
Love Pamela
......................................................
I AM OBSESSED WITH BOTTLE GREEN MINI COOPERS. FEAR ME..





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 +-+  "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list"  +-+
 +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper        +-+
 +-+   "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000   +-+
 +-+       "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named       +-+
 +-+           Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000           +-+
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From CaMo81 at xxx.com  Fri Nov 10 13:49:25 2000
From: CaMo81 at xxx.com (CaMo81 at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:49:25 EST
Subject: Sinister: 300 Miles on a Bus Take a Long Time.
Message-ID: <26.d2363f2.273d56e5@aol.com>

Well, I just got back from Boston, on a trip with my American History class.  
It was
possibly the greatest school trip ever. Three days with my best friends not 
in the
Super-Lame suburbs. I listened to B&S quite a bit. The 5 hour bus rides 
weren't not even bad, because I was surrounded by friends and this girl 
Vanessa who goes to my school but I never really knew.  She is super-GRATE. I 
think she might like me as well, which would be a first for me <insert pity 
here>. There were 3 highlights of the trip.
 A) Dancing and frolicking about the statue of Samuel Adams in Quincy Market.
 B) For Election night my male friend dressed up as a female puppet, complete 
with dress and make-up, to protest George W. Bush. I followed him about the 
hotel halls and took pictures.  When our History teacher saw us he only 
replied "Cute,"
 and finally C) There was a little diner-type place with a fascist old lady 
who was really mean to us, so we took all the silverware and about 300 
packets of sugar, which we later ate and got really hyper.
  
Has anyone ever eaten Marzipan and acknowledges the fact that it is one of 
the greatest substances on the face of the earth? We bought $10 worth.  It 
hurt my teeth.

    Well, if this election isn't the biggest circus I've ever seen.  I don't 
even want to get into it.
    
    Is it true they made a made-for-TV Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels? 
It's one of my favorite movies, I don't know how they would make a TV show 
out of it, nor do I know how they are making a sequel, which they are.  I had 
a dream that we saw it and it was really bad.  If its bad, I'll cry for days.

Well, that's enough of me for about 3 years.
                                                            Derek  
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 +-+  "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list"  +-+
 +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper        +-+
 +-+   "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000   +-+
 +-+       "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named       +-+
 +-+           Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000           +-+
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From lucyalder at xxx.com  Fri Nov 10 15:18:12 2000
From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 07:18:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister:  Stuff and things
Message-ID: <20001110151812.5976.qmail@web1606.mail.yahoo.com>

I'm staying in for the next two days.  The BBC ticker at the bottom of my
screen has put the fear into me because it says Flood Fears Over Wet
Weekend Flood Fears Over Wet Weekend Flood Fears Over Wet Weekend and that
sort of weather does no end of harm to a blow dry and a pair of tights.  I
have a good excuse to stay in now, though, because I have 73 (seventy
three) channels on the telly thanks to good old Telewest.  I get to watch
the Power Puff Girls on the Cartoon Network and then catch the repeat half
an hour later on Cartoon Network +1.  On Saturday AND Sunday.  I also get
to laugh at musical indoor Christmas fountains on QVC.  I still haven't
had enough of QVC.  My favourite presenter is the lady who does the
jewellery.  She has such dainty, thin wrists!

The BBC ticker also keeps saying Wear The Parts On Your Sleeve Wear The
Parts On Your Sleeve at me but it looks like Wear The Pants On Your
Sleeve, which would be an interesting fashion statement, no?  I prefer to
see pants on heads though.  It's an old chestnut and a classic at the same
time.

So, can I take it that you're all either (a) without sound cards or (b)
waiting to hear the full version of the Come song before you pass
judgement?  If you deleted my last email, which you should have done
because it was a load of old cobblers, I'll repeat that 30 seconds of
Belle & Sebastian's Latest Recording (!!!!!) is on the Xfm website, which
I think is at http://www.xfm.co.uk  Yep, just tested the link.

Who voted for Ralph Nader?  Come on, fess up.  If you lot had just gone
and voted for Gore, this whole election fussy business wouldn't have
happened* and I wouldn't have to listen to details of how Bush is ahead by
1,775 votes in Florida, but the Press Association's independent research
says the margin may be as little as 229 votes but we're still waiting for
the postal votes Every Darn Morning on my radio!  You pesky people.

My BBC ticker has just told me that everybody in Europe is descended from
ten men, which means that a lot of you are related to me, you poor people.
 The BBC don't mention any ladies being involved in the whole ancestry
thing, which either means that (a) their research isn't very thorough or
(b) men can have babies if they really, really try.

I'm bored.  I'm sorry.

Juicy Lucy



*Possibly.  I don't actually have statistical evidence to back up this
theory.


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 +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper        +-+
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 +-+       "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named       +-+
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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com  Fri Nov 10 17:50:43 2000
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:50:43 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Sodastream
Message-ID: <000001c04b40$1141f7e0$c2217bd5@default>

Hi There,

A quick bit of arse covering.

I posted Sodastream dates a while ago, but they've changed a lot.  They
aren't playing RoTa tomorrow & it would seem pretty unlikely that they will
manage a gig at Borders in Oxford St if Mick & Stuart have booked them for
Glasgow the same night!

Its really sad that I can't go & see them there as Mick will probably play
trumpet on Boss (my favourite song of theirs) & that's the combination that
made me fall in love with them all in the first place.

And I'll miss the added bonus of Chris Leonard's manly voice :(

So all you metrosexuals had better be catching Sodastream tonight supporting
Low at the Union Chapel!

Regards,

David Moore
Chelmsford, UK

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 +-+  "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list"  +-+
 +-+       "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper        +-+
 +-+   "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000   +-+
 +-+       "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named       +-+
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From shiplore at xxx.com  Fri Nov 10 18:03:16 2000
From: shiplore at xxx.com (Jeff Burke)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:03:16 EST
Subject: Sinister: Stuff and things
Message-ID: <F15tZKpjE5aHaZVrDs900000d11@hotmail.com>


Juicy Lucy chimed in with::
>
>Who voted for Ralph Nader?  Come on, fess up.  If you lot had just gone
>and voted for Gore, this whole election fussy business wouldn't have
>happened* and I wouldn't have to listen to details of how Bush is ahead by
>1,775 votes in Florida, but the Press Association's independent research
>says the margin may be as little as 229 votes but we're still waiting for
>the postal votes Every Darn Morning on my radio!  You pesky people.
>


I did. But I live in massachusetts. which other than texas  is the safest 
place in the world to vote for ralphie.. cause  the outcome wasn't in doubt 
in either state and popular vote doesn't count..it's cause we're a republic 
not a pure democracy you see......

If I lived in a "battleground" state.. so masculine our competitive 
terms....I would have cast my vote against...ol' Dubba....the 3 time 
arrested coke addict, alcoholic who had daddy buy his way into yale and out 
of vietnam who has executed 117 people in his role as governoer and who 
didn't get anykind of job till he was 30 and daddy appointed him the an 
oilcompany  which then abruptly went out of business...

the democrats have aggravated me when they became so damn republican.. 
cutting off welfare... education... endorsing the death penalty etc...

they're like "new" labor....which is alot more like torys then old labor...

that being said Bush and his "strict constructionists" scare me so much....

what's the general way the election is being veiwed outside the US? C'mon I 
know we've got a bucketload of UKers on here as well as some ANZACs, Swedes, 
Spainairds, Canadians et al....

as a whole I'd say in the US we're all really confused. (more so than usual) 
we don't have any idea what's going to happen....
but at the same time it's exciting cause it will cause change of some 
kind...

I think the general mood of the country is turning to "oh i don't care who's 
president just make it go away..." which is good in that we'll have no 
banana republic kind of abolishing the election and clinton proclaiming 
himself tzar... but by the same token it reeks a bit too much of apathy...


I think I have a sinister list crush but I'm not saying who!
i have an actual list crush from another band's list (yes I've been two 
timing you all with another list I apologize...)... We're going to meet up 
even though we live across country from one another... she's a librarian in 
training isn't that rad? I've very nervous and excited. anyone ever actually 
meet a sweetheart through this? Are their any list couples? How's it going? 
don't you feel slightly socially stigmatized... I do.

ah. I have to apologize for my ramblings and lack of B&S content. Although I 
would like to defend Isobel. I've never met her but I'm sure we'd get along 
swimmingly.

open invatation
if any of you all are in boston or visiting boston drop me a note. I'll give 
you a tour if you're not familiar with our fine city... and if you are than 
pints are in order...

g'night and thank you.

jb


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From rizop at xxx.gr  Fri Nov 10 18:09:36 2000
From: rizop at xxx.gr (rizop at xxx.gr)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:09:36 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Sinister: if you cry for much very longer you'll be known as the boy who's always crying
Message-ID: <200011101809.UAA02651@ismene.ics.forth.gr>

hi.

i had a bad night yesterday. i was pretty much crying after i
hang up the phone and put tigermilk on to cheer me up...
during 'the state i am in' didn't stop crying. even when
'expectations' came up tears kept on flowing. it was not until
'she's losing it' that i stopped crying and 'she's just a baby'
brought my eyes back to almost their normal state. in e-renaissance
i was singing along as stuart demands...

well, that's my anti-crying advice. just put tigermilk on...

tips: - just keep the volume loud enough to annoy your flatmates
      - post a message to sinister as soon as possible

nikos
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From megatherion5 at xxx.com  Fri Nov 10 18:16:46 2000
From: megatherion5 at xxx.com (Jason McKinnon)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:16:46 -0700
Subject: Sinister: Geeks, Galifrey, and Gore. (what else?)
Message-ID: <B6318993.528%megatherion5@hotmail.com>

Hey All,

Doctor who?  (Tee-hee)


   gelfingag at juno.com said:


   completely unrelated to anything. does anyone remember the god of all si
   fi shows"DR. WHO" ?   i was practically raised on that show. ahh. to see
   the tardus in action again would truly be great. and the regenerations
   and of corse the witty fourth doctor, mr. tom baker. oh and the darliks
   always yelling " EXTERMINATE  EXTERMINATE!!" nothing like garbage cans
   with a plunger and a poll to strike fear in the hearts of man. the
   cybermen were much more scary. but no foe was as fearsome as "THE
   MASTER"!

Well...your prayers are answered. BBC America still shows Dr. Who (at weird
times that I can't seem to predict, but none the less). Also, you might want
to check your local PBS stations. They tend to play old Dr. Who episodes.
Here in California. Our local PBS station is playing the Sylvester McCoy
episodes (he sucks). In my humble opinion, Tom Baker is and will always be
the Doctor. 

Oh yeah....and Daleks is spelled Daleks.

(Just when you thought you could out geek anyone...here I am with my Dr. Who
diatribe)

Well.....it has been remarked upon that we are having an election over here
in the good ol' US of A.
           
           1) No one will be happy with the results...no matter who wins.
           2)The Electoral college is going the way of the telegraph.
           3)America is once again the f'ing Jerry Springer show of the
world. (Gawd! It's embarrassing)

I don't hold America responsible for me, so I guess I don't have to feel
responsible for it.

(sounds of hand-washing in the background)

Jason the PicklePrince

"meeting all those Laura Llew needs since 1977"  <-------how did that get
there?  Kinda sounds bad after
                   
someone else's name

;)


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From athenaofme at xxx.com  Fri Nov 10 20:34:45 2000
From: athenaofme at xxx.com (lisa morrison)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:34:45 GMT
Subject: Sinister: maine morning main line
Message-ID: <F279WanaHJveIn6csjB00000cc8@hotmail.com>

slap my hand. i have a bad habit of being direct.
talk myself into big trouble with more ease than falling blindfolded into a 
hole...
I VOTED NADER.
  to whoever commented...but i put one hand over my mouth and refuse to
  talk politics. i am the master of making enemies and number 1 on my
  list of "how to..."'s is
         1. talk politics.
  you can all thank me privately for sparing you my wrath. yeah and i
  see those fingers pointing, kids snickering...bitch bitch. at least i
  wear it well.

promised i'd update the lot of you if one of my mental buildings came 
crashing down again...but i forgot and you (well, most of you) missed
the grand display. just call me the drama queen...pass me the velvet
curtain and sob by my side as i heave one last pathetic and over-breathed 
breath...its rather amusing really...next time i'll put it on video tape and 
charge 3 easy installments of 39.99 a pop...limited supplies. get yrs while 
they last...soundtrack includes pj harvey, pj harvey and pj harvey with 
special guest (that would be the disarming...)
lisa (ahem...that would be me) sobbing tragically in the backround.
its a fabulous peice...pj and i work well together...(pish-is this me?)

waiting to be swept off my feet all heeled and booted by some
dashing sinister boy...i won't be holding my breathe. i'm know to breathe 
rather heavy on a regular basis, anyhow. more along the lines of darth vadar 
than jenna jameson...and i know more than one listee who can attest to 
that...(pish)...

but i'm spent. something like a cigarette. cast me off to the ashtray
darlings....
the quasi-ideal
-lisa
   oh oh oh
   port e bell a.....say it like it rhymes
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From David1822 at xxx.com  Fri Nov 10 20:06:03 2000
From: David1822 at xxx.com (David Strange Strange)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:06:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: i saw you're arms in a dream they had blue veins blue
Message-ID: <17991410.973886763247.JavaMail.imail@puffer>


Listening to low at the mo* they are fantabyoucois aren't they,and before
anyone
disagrees the answer is a big fat YES,not as good as the belles though,puh
low wish they
were but no it's not gonna happen,well not yet anyway.

I've got a new mobile phone it's WAP I said WAP not TAP (oh I just had to
get it in
somewhere) the WAP is quite funny like ceefax but a little more advanced,but
it's not got
Planet Sound on it the best music thing ever lve the void I'm addict to it
Rebecca Nahid
should join sinister,if no-one knows what I'm talking about shame on you but
goto C4
page 450 on cefax it's cool and then right after play bamboozle on page 152
it's cool as
well love ceefax it makes me laugh.

Allie cooks post yesterday had me in stitches I nearly had to go to the
hospital oh it's
good to have him around sn't it kids I think he and PF should do a joint
post it would be
soooooo good,thats a joint post and not any illegal drugs,in case your
confused kids just
say no,think of poor old Zammo.

Did anyone see the simpsons tonight on bbc2 oh it was cool kinda James bond
spoof, he
he, I was laughing all the way to Rodger Moores house hese a grate mate of
mine you
know.

Jen,grrrrrr the hardkids are horrid you just wait till I come to scotland,in
the not to distant
future sinister Scottish people isn't that excitin (I can hear all of you 
scream in fits of
panic & rage) I'll have em for you, no-one messes with jen.i love Tweebuny
what a grate
name to be on sinister I think I'm goona like her posts just cos her name
rules,we should
all come up with fluffy names for ourselves I'll be fuzzygruzzle bear,am i
being to twee I
think I am.
Lisa's posts are quite fun as well often make me smile which is a rare
commodity these
days,but hey lets all smile 1,2,3.....),yay!

I wanna write 'I saw your arm in a dream and they had blue veins blue' on a
wall
somewhere,maybe in the 13th note in Scotland as that seems the graffiti
capital of
Britain,maybe someone Scottish can do it on my behalf.

why don't we have a winter picnic know it'll be cold but I think it could be
fun we can all
compare coats and gloves and other warmers and we can all make mulberry wine
and
drink hot toddies it'll be fun,what do you think?

I think thats just about enough from me,dont you?

love and passion,
David (dafyd) x 


'who will cremate the monkeys now?'
(if anyone can tell me what tv show this line came from I'll be very 
impressed,answers
on a postcard to; couldn't care less,sinister PO box 1,scott land)

*wowee I'm a poet and I didn't know it I make a rhyme everytime





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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Fri Nov 10 21:14:17 2000
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 21:14:17 +0000
Subject: Sinister: shuttle cocks are round
Message-ID: <200011102111.VAA24009@missprint.org>

Hello,

Oooh I went to see Hefner in Sheffield yesterday and they are grate!  Nice 
to meet alotta sinistas too, you were all lovely.  Had a grate time and 
danced to Sleep the Clock Around whilst making those fairy noises with 
my mouth, so I probably looked a bit silly, good thing the music was loud 
enough/ others were too drunk :-) to notice it.

Going to be a groupie and see them AGAIN when they're in Nottingham next 
Tuesday... yay!  AND I'm going to see TERRORVISION soon!  Woohoo.  It's 
a gigarama.

nikos said:
"well, that's my anti-crying advice. just put tigermilk on..."

Whenever I get depressed like if I see other people snogging, which 
depresses me, "The state I'm in" always rings in my head, and I would 
want to sing along... and when I do I always feel a lot better, for 
some reason.  I like the song more and more.

I like B&S more and more, all of their songs, even beyond the sunrise, 
did anyone spot the couple of verses that has all sorts of dirty innuendos 
in it?  Filthy!

JenOw needs to learn to juggle to acquire expert hand-eye coordination so 
that next time someone dares to throw things at her head she can catch it 
without looking and then throw it right back at them as she sings "Cleopetra, 
coming AT YA!"..

..all whilst being on a unicycle, no less.  Bless, I think I need a rest.

Fairy Noises and Red Bulls!
Ken
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From mikelsen at xxx.nz  Fri Nov 10 21:48:12 2000
From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:48:12 +1300
Subject: Sinister: election smelection ... who cares when the world heavyweight title is at stake?
Message-ID: <002001c04b60$09109840$2f6137d2@mikelsen>

***DAVID TUA IS KING OF THE WORLD***
Unlike most of you (apart from, possibly Mr Murdoch) I am ***EXTREMELY***
excited about the heavyweight title fight between fellow Aucklander David
Tua and Lennox Lewis. No offence English people, but I am hoping that David
completely obliterates Mr Lewis. I mean, I'm sure he's a nice guy and all
..... but David Tua is so cool.

I have no idea what draws me to boxing. Yes, it's a terrible, violent sport,
but there is something so bautifully pure about it. None of this bollocksy
kicing a ball between two posts to prove who's better ... just to men
settling things "the old fashioned way" (circa 500 BC)

Anyway, David Tua, you are in my thoughts ....

***U.S.ELECTION***
Stupid process. It makes New Zealand's rather complicated MMP system look
like a coin toss.Personally I think they should ...
a) Just make Ralph Nader the president on the basis the other two are fools.
(Although I do like Al, he's not half the man Ralph is ...) or
b) Make the new HEAVYWEIGHT CAHMPION OF THE WORLD the President. I'm sure
either Lennox Lewis or David Tue would do as good as job as George W. Bush.

***AUCTION***
Anyone here bidded yet? Still no bids on my wonderful talent. I do really
think it's a wee bit expense in all honesty. I hope the charities make some
decent money from it though ....

***JEESPTER***
Hmmm ... all that ranting seems to have payed of. The Gentle Waves CDs are
on the site now. I'm glad I didn't order them from someone else then. So, as
soon as you can preorder "It's a Cool Cool Christmas" I'll order all three.
Excitement plus .....

and speaking of "Jeepster" ...

***T-REX***
Good or crap? Both, I think. I was just listening to "Tanx", not their best
album, but with such fab bonus tracks as "20th Century Boy" and "Children of
the Revolution" you can't really go wrong. Great pop, although a little
cheesy and crap. Thatbeing sad, as I type this I'm listening to Bowie's
"Let's Dance" album. Which is hardly "Low" or "Ziggy Stardust" .... but then
its hardly "Tin Machine I & II" or "Never Let Me Down" either .....

and what about ....
***BOB DYLAN***?
Q's special "collectors edition" issue on Dylan is very exciting. I went
throught a Dylan "phase" when I was 14-17, which was superceded by my Smiths
"phase" (1992-2000 ....) I have practically all his albums on tape, and
don't really listen to all that menay now, but that magazine has made me go
back and start listening to all his albums again. They're all pretty good
... even the crap ones. I mean, Dylan on a bad day is still better tghan a
lot of people on their best days.

***B&S CONTENT***
Am looking forward to the Christmas Carol. Anyone actually heard it yet?
Dammit, I wish thye'd release a single/album/radio sessions compilation/tee
towel or SOMETHING! (sigh)

Oh, that's right ....
***SODASTREAM***
Wow ... you lucky devils. I wish I was seeing Sodastream tonight. "Looks
Like a Russian" is a great album ... one which gets better with each listen.
Enjoy, all of you have the opportunity to see them. And buy their album ....
It's tops!

Well, I'm off to look at potential churches to get married in. Oh joy
........

I'll get my coat ...

Lawrence Mikkelsen

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From: HShevade at xxx.org (Hershal Shevade)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:58:47 -0500
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From imn_uk at xxx.uk  Fri Nov 10 22:01:05 2000
From: imn_uk at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?nicolson=20ian?=)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:01:05 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: They'll grasp some sleep by matches
Message-ID: <20001110220105.16500.qmail@web4302.mail.yahoo.com>

Good grief, I think I'm going to take up hibernation! 
I don't get out of bed until about half ten most
mornings (God, I'm so decadent!), then potter about
the house for a bit before lunch and generally go out
for a while in the afternoons.  But when I get home I
need to go for a sleep before tea, I just get so
blinking tired!  This doesn't happen during the
summer.  God knows what I'll be like if I get a job!

Perhaps I dreamed this (which happens a lot, what with
all this sleeping), but did someone say that there's a
William Blake quote on the Gentile Waves album? 
There's a song about the mad old visionary feller on
the new Fall LP.  Given their shared interest,
shouldn't maybe Isobel and Mark E. Smith get together
for a duet perhaps?  That wouldn't sound awful, would
it?  And while the idea of Isobel on a Fall song is
intreguing, surely Narky Mark on a Gentile Waves
record is far more exciting.  "ACTRESSESS ON
CUPBOARDS-UH! IT WAS THE TIIIIME OF THE GIAAANT
BUNNIES-UH! IN THE NEIIIGHBOURHOOD OF INFINITYYYYYY!"
Etc.  With extra glockenspiel and recorder.  Maybe
even a video - Mark skipping through a poppy field or
something.  By 'eck, the possibilities are endless! 
Remember, kids, when it knocks Westlife off number
one, it was my idea!

Square-eyed Eastenders freak Arantxa was worried about
FatPat's ear-rings.  If you were all watching last
night (and I can only assume that you were) you'd be
relieved to see that they were back in place for her
big "Feck off youse lot, I take you all on, ya
cunts!!" scene.  And bigger than ever.  It's good to
know that amidst all the tendril wires and chaos some
things never change.

Tomorrow (Saturday) is the feast of St. Theodore the
Studite.  Have a good one!

Ian N.

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From megatherion5 at xxx.com  Fri Nov 10 21:10:40 2000
From: megatherion5 at xxx.com (Jason McKinnon)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:10:40 -0700
Subject: Sinister: election smelection ... who cares when the world	heavyweight title is at stake?
In-Reply-To: <002001c04b60$09109840$2f6137d2@mikelsen>
Message-ID: <B631B254.546%megatherion5@hotmail.com>

Hey,

Lawrence said:

> ***T-REX***
> Good or crap? Both, I think. I was just listening to "Tanx", not their best
> album, but with such fab bonus tracks as "20th Century Boy" and "Children of
> the Revolution" you can't really go wrong. Great pop, although a little
> cheesy and crap. Thatbeing sad, as I type this I'm listening to Bowie's
> "Let's Dance" album. Which is hardly "Low" or "Ziggy Stardust" .... but then
> its hardly "Tin Machine I & II" or "Never Let Me Down" either .....

To quote the Great White Duke himself in All the Young Dudes. :

"Who needs TV when you have T-Rex."

And. yes, that was originally a Bowie song that Mott the Hoople covered.

IMNSHO, Bowie looked up to Marc Bolan. And tried to emulate him early on.

I gave T-Rex another day in court a couple of years ago, and now they are
one of my favorite bands.

(Here's where I get weird.)

 I think that my hermetic studies have something to do with it. Marc Bolan
was ostensibly involved in magic (with a k), and I think that some of his
music was majorly influenced by his magickal studies.

All I know is this.......

Humming or singing T-Rex songs to yourself whilst on the prowl for the
opposite sex will almost guarantee an interesting situation.

Doesn't his sex, magick, and rock n' roll attitude just make you wanna curl
your lip and dance around with abandon?

Always a Jeepster for your love,

Jason the Pickle Prince

P.S. I suppose pointing out that Jeepster records has the same name as a
T-Rex song would be redundant in this crowd.


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From jan_imgrund at xxx.com  Fri Nov 10 23:07:53 2000
From: jan_imgrund at xxx.com (Jan Imgrund)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:07:53 +0100
Subject: Sinister: you never buy the same record twice
Message-ID: <OE383JdZZzxTS2UOdRM00000679@hotmail.com>

Hi
I'm home on a Friday night.. what a sinister thing to do, I thought. I might
just as well post to the list again, it must be about time, since the last
was about 6 months ago. It's always good to keep a certain rhythm. But what
do I have to say? Oh, that should not be a big problem. There's always
something, really, if you only look hard enough. I always could find
something.
Isn't it strange to see your own name on a computer screen, written by
someone else? It makes me feel like I'm not in control of myself; someone
else who has never seen you knows your name and types it out on a carolinian
keyboard, and a few hours later you read and stumble over something
familiar: you say to yourself "hey, that's me!" But is it really me? At the
time of writing, it was just the name of a guy who had not updated the
literary list in a long time (I will do so, Laura Lleweth (see!), as soon as
I've finished this, taken a wodka and smoked another cigar. And then I'll do
it, if I still can.) and it's also me, in some strange way.
I think that's what shyness is all about: you don't want to lose your name.
Once I typed my name into a search-engine just to see what happens. I found
a woman who had the same name as me - she was living in New York and she was
some kind of musician, I believe. Jan Imgrund, musician in NY. Carrying my
name around! How dare she! I felt somewhat betrayed, I must say. I always
considered my name as my own property. I should have sent her a mail - that
would have been a nice shock, getting a mail from yourself. We might have
met, fallen in love (to love oneself is the beginning of a lifelong romance,
as Oscar Wilde said) and married. Then we would have led a funny life of
confusing other people. I could have learned to play an instrument and we
could have taken turns in playing concerts - no one would know who comes on
stage when they announce "Please welcome Jan Imgrund!".
But I did send an email to her, and the page where she was mentioned has
gone a while ago already. We'll never know.
Thinking about it, I'm not so anymore sure who's meant when my name is
mentioned on the list. Maybe they're referring to a female fan in New York
City, and not to, erm, me.
That reminds me of another story (I told you, I'm unstoppable once I've
started): my girlfriend and I once brought our old clothes to a thrifteria
or whatever you brits call it, and the guy who took care of our rags greeted
my girlfriend with her first name ("oh, he may have been lucky, Carolin is
not such a rare name"), *and* last name ("????!!!!! Is there something going
on between this slightly dim-witted oriental thriftmaster and my girlfriend
I should know of??!). But then I was reassured. He knew my name as well.
There was no secret affair; the guy was just clairvoyant. This guy should
play lotto and get rid of his shitty job instead of scaring the shit out of
unsuscepting hipsters.
(I can hear you, sceptics, but believe me, I'm not the kind of person who
has his name printed on all his belongings, I did not even take my purse
out, and my name is not written across my forehead for all I know.)

Sorry Laura, I've already started drinking the wodka. Could you correct the
spelling on the new litlist??

Surprisingly little B&S content, don't you think? Hmmm. I have not listened
to their records all that much at the moment. it might have to do with the
fact that I am not currently in possession of IYFS, my favourite by a long
shot, since I gave my copy to a romanian girl (who loved it to bits! Another
convert!) And somehow I can't bring myself to buy the same record twice,
even if it's one of my very very favourites. There's always so much new
stuff to buy!
Incidentally, my first guided by voices song (the official ironman rally
song) was the best thing that came to my ears in a long time. Could someone
who knows about such things tell me what record's best to buy? I heard good
things about mag earwhig. It's such a great name, too.

See you in may 2001 then,
Jan

PS: Everybody should own "stranded" by roxy music. Not only because of the
cover.
PPS: And the sophware slump by grandaddy. not only because of the name.

--
Tindersticks page: http://www.tindersticks.net
'Lifestyle music for those maybe lacking in life,
but never ever in style'
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From girliezero at xxx.com  Sat Nov 11 03:20:03 2000
From: girliezero at xxx.com (girlie jessica)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:20:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: revisit the legend
Message-ID: <20001111032003.24736.qmail@web4501.mail.yahoo.com>


--- Laura Llew wrote:
> See, what kind of
> nice milkmaid I am?

oh god, i don't post for a while and look what
happens. girls being milkmaids...next thing you know,
we'll have our own team (tweem?) of sinister fluffers.
i volunteer to be the one with the rollerskates,
playboy bunny shirt, and stuart murdoch. oh, go on -
you knew i'd take him in a second. get in line. no
pushing.

so, the infamous jessicaxo is back, now with new
improved email address to corral all sinister emails
into one handy dandy little spot. i don't check this
mailbox unless i've got a nice cup of tea and some
toast and a nice sunbeam to relax in for the better
part of the day, so i can read these lovely little
sinister posts in the ultimate mode of relaxation. the
jessicaxo address is still alive and kicking, but now
you also have the option of writing to
girliezero at yahoo.com. yes, i know, you boys like
variety. this way, i can write to you and you can
pretend that i'm a different woman. 

i'm a canadian and i'm still all sick about this
american election thing. i'm a gore supporter, mainly
for the pro-choice thing, but also because he's not
george dubya bush. 

and FYHCYWLAP/fickylap? i'm impressed and swooning.
especially over that 'model' song, the bit that goes
"the girl who's famous for showing her chest." no
relation. i've only started doing b+s searches on
napster, for those rarities that i've only dreamed
about that i know would persuade someone to buy me a
persian rug if they only knew i had them.

if only the new album had a name as good as twattybus.
that was sublime.

and in case you were all going to rush out and visit,
my website is currently stalled, due to lack of time
on a large scale. to illustrate, let me say that i
still haven't seen charlie's angels and it's been out
for a week now. but i'll keep you posted. because i'm
sure you're all on the edge of your seats.

must make the most of a crisp november friday night.

missing you, kissing you,
jessica xo


=====
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i've broken this one."
-freddie mercury
***********************
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From jiffy_popper at xxx.com  Sat Nov 11 02:58:45 2000
From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 21:58:45 EST
Subject: Sinister: O Daddy dear! You know you're still number 1,but girls they wanna have fun
Message-ID: <F106q8awYFDIfWb4SaF000013a0@hotmail.com>

My pretty little petunias,

I think I was telling you about my B&s silk screen attempts, well it worked, 
but I only managed a few prints before it died on me, alas no original 
t-shirts for me. That's it. I'm out.

Phillip Runion, dearest heart, were you challenging ME to a duel, or was it 
to anyone in general? I'd sword-fight you Casarotto style...if only I had 
boy-bits.

So is this auctioning/volunteering of one's abilites going on now? I don't 
understand how it works. Will there just be one special day and a great big 
orgy of bidding? Will some anonymous millionaire bid for Stuart to travel 
with him to the islands?

Jeff Burke wrote:
>what's the general way the election is being veiwed outside the US? C'mon I
>know we've got a bucketload of UKers on here as well as some ANZACs, 
>Swedes,
>Spainairds, Canadians et al....

Well, I am a Canadian and I was absolutely fascinated with the US 
election.Poor Nader is getting so much of the blame.I was sent a very 
interesting letter from Michael Moore to Gore about how him winning and 
Nader having votes is not mutually exclusive, if any of you care to see it. 
Bless him, I mean,he's got to start somewhere!Isn't it something like 30 
percent of the population doesn't vote anyways?...but moving on, as a newly 
turned 18 year old all of this is exciting me more than it would have 
normally because this will be the first time I get to vote. Apparently 75% 
of 18 year-olds won't vote in the upcoming canadian election and that makes 
me angry. I know it's fun to celebrate (legally) being able to smoke and 
drink and buy porn,(well,in quebec anyways) but the fate of one's country is 
looked at cynically or with boredom in an unfair proportion. I just don't 
get it! I mean, how can one be so passionless with the sexual aura of Joe 
Clark pulsating through the air?
http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Palace/4447/beloved.gif
Those powerful hands!

I agree that Molly Ringwald's dress is very ugly in Pretty In Pink, but that 
prom scene is pretty heartwrenching, isn't it? This will be the third time I 
have said this on Sinister. My oh my. I love that OMD 'If You Leave' playing 
in the background. I touch you once! I touch you twice! I won't let go at 
any price!
I want one of those adolescent movie relationships as a girl from the wrong 
side of the tracks tumbling with the rich boy. Actually, I am strangely 
attracted to sleazy Steff in the movie. The white pantsuits and loafers with 
no socks just screams troubled bad boy who secretly wants to be saved. I 
want to walk hurriedly and nervously to my locker one day, hugging books to 
chest, only to find him blocking my way (sunglasses on, toothpick in mouth)
Have any of you seen the other Andrey McCarthy classic, Mannequin?
I saw La Fille sur se Pont which is beautiful, romantic and sexy and I 
highly recommend it. Beautiful waif, lonely man and knife-throwing and 
back-arching and gasping...Ok I take it all back. I don't want the teenage 
80's relationship. I want to live in silvery black and white and be 
discovered by a French knife-thrower on a bridge and wear glittering 
costumes!

Kiss me now, oh please please
xoxo Genevieve

p.s
I owe a big thankyou to my Tape Fairy who I will talk to soon xxx
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From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk  Sat Nov 11 14:17:23 2000
From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk (Elizabeth Daplyn)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:17:23 +0100
Subject: Sinister: joyful and triumphant
Message-ID: <E13ucPD-0001yE-00@wing2.herald.ox.ac.uk>

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From ol04 at xxx.uk  Sat Nov 11 15:45:14 2000
From: ol04 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:45:14 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: The revolution will not be televised brothers
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10011111530280.16392-100000@gromit.students.stir.ac.uk>

Howdy

its been a while
cos I've been very busy
take my advice 
never do a full time masters
'specially not one which comprises
half of one masters course
half of another
and half of a third

I'm currrently taking a break from a java programming assignment
one of three assignments due this week
this one is even more work than the 5,000 word essay
and the statistical report.

anyway
on the plus side (warning actual B&S content coming up here)
there is a real cute girl on the course
and I have to work with her on a pressentation for the next two weeks
and she gave me a lift home the other day
and guess what music she had on in the car?
not only our beloved B&S, but (possibly more importantly) also the pastels

Shame that I'm an ugly fucker she aint interested in really.

oh well

anyway , 
speaking of music
I too seem to be listening to less B&S these days
lots of Gil Scott Heron though (hence the subject line)
and lots of Go Betweens.
Who were brill live
purely belter even
I think I may be wearing the groove out on my Hammer The Hammer 7 inch
(by the way don't tell Ally I have that record he'll try to steal it).

Oh...
is anyone going to see Sodastream in Glasgow on friday???
think I might 
if I can find some friends to go with.
maybe I should ask that girl,
then again maybe not.

love and mung beans
    owen

With that the narrow wizard disapeared in a flash of blue flame leaving
behind only a faint smell of cinamon.

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From gogron at xxx.uk  Sat Nov 11 15:58:56 2000
From: gogron at xxx.uk (gogron)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:58:56 +0000
Subject: Sinister: the tree feller
Message-ID: <3A0D6CBF.953342B2@netscapeonline.co.uk>

The 'tree surgeon' came to visit, the other day.
Left behind, a pine-scented heap of shavings on the patio.
There's heat inside... put your hand in and it's warm: steam rises into
the autumnal air
We're making some paths in the birch wood with the shavings.
A rose plant, as tall as me, still has dark maroon petals, cupped tight.

It is scented. Ah...
A raggedy formation of birds overhead, sounding like geese but too
disorganized.
Dad works with the 45deg mitre in the porch, sawing little strips of
beading I bought, to make a frame.
My mum stands outside clutching a mug of tea, talking about the new
paths.
I try sinister chat, but there's nobody there... I start writing to
myself...
I change windows to this one.

Start at the beginning, stay a while in the middle, and finish at the
end.
So much for objectivity. My vote is for the middle, with blurry edges.
Walk to those foggy edges and the footing is surprisingly sure, but
there is no beginning in view, nor an end.

When I post I suppose I don't really namecheck other members of the
list, or seem to take up the threads. Not often, anyway. I think of nice
things, the woodshavings and the rose and the almost geese, and smile
the same way I do when I think of you lot.

:)

She was into S&M and Bible Studies

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From mikelsen at xxx.nz  Sat Nov 11 20:34:14 2000
From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 09:34:14 +1300
Subject: Sinister: democracy smerocracy
Message-ID: <004001c04c1f$017f7000$4a6137d2@mikelsen>

***MOBY, YOU ARE A PRICK AND HAVE OUTSTAYED YOUR WELCOME***
Man that guy is starting to get on my nerves. His like a less charming, mor
annoyingly limp writed PC verision of Nicky Wire, minus any raw talent.

What the hell am I talking about? you ask. (possibly)

In yesterdays's NME.com update he started laying into all the US musicicans
(Pearl Jam, Patti Smith etc.) who compained for Ralp Nader, blaming them for
Bush's probable win, and urging them to 'hang their heads in shame'.

OK, so a vote for Nader is esentially a vote taken away from Al Gore. I
concur ... but the thing is, Mr Moby (if that is your real name) that what
America has is called a DEMOCRACY and in a democracy you can vote for
whoever you want. The way I see it, if you vote, your vote is never wasted.
One can argue that a vote for Ralph Nader is a "lost vote" this time round,
but I would imagine that, given the "large" minority support for him,
whatever person gets into power will realise that there are a lot of people
in America who are dissatisfied with the current two party hegemony, and
will have to take that into account. Whatever happens, I think the people
have spoken clearly that there is more than one alternative.

OK, I don't even live in the states but .... oh well.

Anyway, back to Moby. What a jerk.

Well, that's my rant over.

Boxing today .... can't wait ...

Lawrence Mikkelsen



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From silmaril at xxx.gr  Sat Nov 11 20:15:25 2000
From: silmaril at xxx.gr (Joan of Dark)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:15:25 +0200
Subject: Sinister: The National Team of Scotland in Athens!
Message-ID: <3A0DA8DD.865B5DA0@stargate.gr>

hey people looking out the window to the city below......
       hey people looking out the window for the fun and
sorrow...........

                                         hum hum......ehhhh.......
hey there!

I have an announcement to make to all greek sinitrees............
the Scottish National Team of Music is playing in Athens (Greece) in
December....

On December 1st it's Delgados     (yay!)
and
On December 15th it's Hefner      (yay yay!!!)

also.....
on November 25th Baxendale are playing here too.........

all 3 previous gigs are going to take place in "The House of Art" in
Athens......
If anyone's interested in more info, or -most important- for a meet-up,
please email me privately....


and now......
I need your help, directly related to the previous subject.....
For various reasons, I can only go  to two of these gigs and I would
really appreciate it if you could help me with deciding  which two of
the three bands I'm going to see. The thing is I've only listened to
very few songs of each band.....(only one of baxendale)- my income is
quite lousy lately to spend my last money on cds like I used to- and I
can't really tell......

So, please, your help would be really appreciated....Just think that you
will indirectly be the reason for my dancing all night.
Just vote for a band or an album......

Do I sound too desperate???
Well...........I am!!!!!
: )

A lot of talk on Belle and Sebastian has been going on around here
lately......They rise in fame finally....
Main articles in major music magazines( pop & rock)  and fanzines(
fractal press - entropy).....Yay!!! I feel quite proud....

Some days ago when a guy at the Uni asked me what bands or kind of music
I listen to ,  after a lot of "hmmm.....errrmmm....ehmmmm"  I said.... :
"well........it's ...nice......I like it...a lot.......it's melodious,
most of the times, and happy, unlike me....it makes me dream and it
makes me smile...i listen to.......pop, but not the mainstream mtv
stuff......I listen to Indie-Pop...." Poor guy he was scratching his
head puzzled..........
And, to make things worse, I showed him my bag with the big "belle and
sebastian" neatly written across it on blue metallic ink and said
proudly:  " And this is my favourite band, belle and sebastian",
pronouncing each letter slowly and carefully.......
"Huh???" went the guy.....-you should see his face-.....
"A band?? I thought they were boyfriends of yours or something......" I
was bashed down...... : /

But next time someone asked me the very same question I was ready . I
had the article in the magazine with me and just stuck it to his face
while saying in a hurry: "
andmyfavouritebandisbelleandsebastianandImnottheonlyonetoknowthemhere,see?"
Fortunately this guy was much more polite than the previous one , and
read through the whole article and said that they must be good. But that
was the end of the discussion on belle and sebastian......I never dared
to bring the subject up again........although I guess I have chances
with this one.....to convert him I mean........

That's all from me for the moment <-------that was a threat..: )))

all my love to all of you.....

Joanna


PS1: it's a full moon tonight, spend it in a nice way, cuddle next to
your beloved, take your dog out for a walk, take yourself out for a
walk, listen to some music and look out your window......

(PS2:don't forget to call before you come)


    *p o p !*
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From JENOWL22 at xxx.com  Sat Nov 11 21:19:29 2000
From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:19:29 EST
Subject: Sinister: I float with the air and angels
Message-ID: <b9.87914a2.273f11e1@aol.com>

Hewwo,

Well, guess what happened to me on Friday (again). Someone threw a stone at 
my head again. Which is almost inpossible from a probablity and chance 
standpoint. But apparantly it was so funny the first time, they wanted to see 
it happen again. But ha ha! I beat them all. Because I didn't pass out this 
time.

I bought the new Hefner album today. I don't care what anyone says, I think 
it's grate. I think The Day the Thatcher Dies is the best song, because of 
those little people that sing ding dong the witch is dead. Besides, it's 
grate. The video for I took her love for granted is very odd and scary. 

Today I did that thing where I try and get people to employ me, but it 
doesn't ever work because apparantly you have to be 16 or something. The 
mokes. I'm sticking to busking. It's better.

Little boys leered at me today and yelled things. I don't even think they 
knew what doggy style was anyway. I know I don't.

I have to go now, my mum is yelling for me.

Hugs,
Jen
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From prbar at xxx.com  Sat Nov 11 21:32:29 2000
From: prbar at xxx.com (Phillip Runion)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:32:29 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Serpentine Turpentine
Message-ID: <F270xvZ9aZ1i6bdVJWr000016c9@hotmail.com>

dear sinister list,
      does contemplating how thoroughly you've chewed your rice indicate 
that things are at a definite standstill? The last sinister thing i've done 
was to steal an overwhelming amount of butter from the university caf in 
order to make grilled cheeses; the last refuge of a broke college student. 
This happened twice last year, too.
      ok. so it could be argued that chewing rice is perhaps pointless as it 
is so small, but i for one must chew my rice, and the reason i was 
contemplating its well chewedness was because of devastating confrontation 
with the evil Mr. Strep Throat, that left me bed ridden and thoroughly 
pissed for two days. The Bastard. I didn't want any smart assed rice 
shrapnel to catch a swollen piece of tonsil and rip it open, causing me, in 
addition to having trouble swallowing, to choke on my own blood.
        Jello just isn't the same without really good whipped cream. I'm the 
type who likes to have a bit of the WC with each spoonful of jello. I saw 
this one kid pull the lid off his jello cup and devour the whole of the 
whipped cream puff without any reservation, and obviously in clear disregard 
of his own taste buds. It was a serious boggle, that i just couldn't 
understand. I approached the jello-eater in question, removed my left glove, 
and swiftly swatted him across the right cheek and demanded that he explain 
his misconduct in blatantly disrespecting his strawberry flavored ground up 
horse hooves. A Horse Died For That Jello!! i shouted at him as he cowered, 
How Dare You Not Eat It In Proportion To The Whipped Cream Provided!! By 
this time, security had showed up, so i calmly explained the situation. They 
looked up to heaven and mouthed: why, God, are there such imbeciles? 
lowering their bewildered stares they exclaimed simultaneously, Who taught 
you to eat jello you blundering idiot, don'y you have any respect? I back 
away, my job done. He'd learned his lesson. If he ever ate it again, he 
would eat jello in the proper fashion.
         Search me.
        I merely looked at the el scorcho single yesterday and i dreamt that 
i slept with a half-japanese girl.
        I enjoy being a dearest heart. It fits me like a blue monkey glove. 
Nice to here from you again. French bread sound a safer bet as i've no 
desire to be run-through, even by a lovely canadian. Better to be pummeled 
with a crusty loaf, as mum always said.
        Clarifier. Jello is not jelly which is jam which is not a slam dunk; 
it is gelatin. I've experienced a lot of US/UK confusion over this. It's 
actually a brand name converted to mean anything gelatin.
        In an attempt at content: I wonder if Stuart has chest hair, and if 
yes, if he shaves it.
        Finally, which ever of you sent it, your room must be a terrifying 
sight if there are dead Germans lying about from the WWII era. Perhaps a bit 
of tidying up is in order.

Yours,
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From jono427 at xxx.net  Sat Nov 11 21:57:37 2000
From: jono427 at xxx.net (John Maxwell)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:57:37 +0000 (GMT+00:00)
Subject: Sinister: said to her there's beauty all she sees is paiiiiaiiain
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From idleberry at xxx.com  Sun Nov 12 16:53:10 2000
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 08:53:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: B+S, baths, websites...
Message-ID: <20001112165310.19983.qmail@web617.mail.yahoo.com>

hello all!
GOOD NEWS...
Played (not force fed!) my flatmate and his pal some
B+S. they liked. They want me to make some tapes for
them. They said Stuart sang "like an angel". They
seemed to love The State I am In, Dylan in the movies,
Fox in the Snow, and Sleep the Clock around. LLPJ
didn't do it for them. So I've got to make them some
tapes. Any recommendations? 
My CDs are scratched to bits. Which is highly
annoying. I have looked after them, but sometimes they
get scratched.

BAD NEWS...
The university computers are doing my head in. Feeling
all technology raged at the moment, and its not good.
I've had problems opening my e mail accounts, no
matter other things. Can't wait for tomorrow, when the
super fast computers will be at my disposal. Providing
they don't do their usual trick of suddenly closing my
open internet windows. Can't wait to afford a decent
and fast computer of my own where i don't have to put
up with the prehistoric stone ageness of the
university. 


THOUGHTFUL NEWS...

need a job after uni. Where should I work? I have
decided on what I want from a job:
1. To be in Scotland, so that I can live with mum and
dad for a bit, save up to pay off my overdraft, and
save for a flat (to rent probably)
2. A good pay.
3. Job Satisfaction.
4. Free things.

Read that MI5 are looking for people like me (who
speak two languages) to work for them. This amused me
highly, and sat with girl flatmate giggling about it. 

Thought of other jobs I could handle, but I'll tell
you about them when I think about them more.
One job was offering �34,000 as a starting salary for
a graduate! Not bad! Not even in London! The others I
thought about were offering beteen �18,000 and
�22,000.

MORE THOUGHTFULNESS...
Looking for websites to visit. Any recommendations? I
visited Erica/ Miss Scarlets pages again recently.
Miss her art work and things. So if anyone here has a
website you can recommend, drop me an e mail. :)

WHAT  I WANT RIGHT NOW...

Its not much to ask for, is it.. a Bath.
I miss having a bath, lying in a tub filled with
bubbles and hotwater, playing with my toes as they get
all wrinkly, and just generally pampering myself. A
shower is ace for speed, but a bath is best for
relaxation. 
Spent yesterday going all gooey over the nice things
in Superdrug. And in Boots. 

Going home on Wedneasday, hopefully, so then I can lie
back in a tub, and finally get a bath. I miss baths.

So what do you all want for Christmas then?

Later 
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From tweebunny at xxx.uk  Sun Nov 12 17:34:19 2000
From: tweebunny at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?The=20Twee=20Bunny?=)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:34:19 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Tweebunny rides (or hops) again.
Message-ID: <20001112173419.33455.qmail@web10306.mail.yahoo.com>

Hey kids!

*mwah*

First thing, David The Strange made the tweebunny
*GASP* in horror when he said he liked "her" posts!
The Tweebunny is 100% chunky man! So there :p

Jenowl may not know what doggy style is, but I can
assure her it's nowhere near as good as bunny-style
(lots of it, in other words) :) :) :)

Hmm, I've been hopping around in Glasgow thinking
about life. Your Tweebunny is in love, and it makes
all the birds, trees and buildings look like lovely
big carrots. If she ever says yes, then she'll be the
biggest carrot of them all (except for the one in my
little boxer shorts of course) *giggles*

The little bunny now wonders what to talk about. I saw
Hefner recently and they were quite nice. Darren
looked very nervous, and tried to dedicate a song to
someone at the front, but forgot his name. The guy
(whose name was James) looked quite embarassed about
the whole thing, and there were a couple of mad female
bunnies congratulating him.

One of my friends got very very very very drunk last
week and threw up. That wasn't nice. She swore never
to drink again. Then she went out and bought Vodka.
Tee hee. Alky!!

I bet that Ally Cook gets drunk lots. He seems the
type! I bet he likes nothing better than a big bottle
of booze and lots of loose women (or maybe men, I
dunno). Izzat true, Albert?

Well, I'm off to my little burrow to watch TV and
swear. Byebye!!!

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From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk  Mon Nov 13 11:57:52 2000
From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:57:52 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Hefner aren't Scottish...
Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E43027753E6@lotus.ntu.ac.uk>

One thing I've never quite figured out about elections. How is it possibly
apathetic to not vote for someone whose policies you detest? If it happens
that there's noone worth voting for, it would be idiotic to vote for one of
them, wouldn't it? You're making a far bigger statement by saying that 50%
of the people eligible to vote hate every single one of the candidates. When
politicians say they hate it when so many people fail to vote, what they
really mean is that they hate it when so many people fail to vote for
them...

Not bad going, I've only been back on the list for 2 posts and I've probably
rubbed half the listees up the wrong way already...

Jenow, if people keep throwing things at you, it's time to start fighting
back. You could start by hiring a certain well-known ex-boxer for the day.
He'll do them over for you, and then he could sing you a celebratory song.
He's even got his own transport.

Personally if I'm upset about something, playing B&S won't stop me crying.
If I need cheering up, I put a bit of Diana Ross & The Supremes on. It has
been scientifically proven by the top boffins at NASA (*) that it is
physically impossible to listen to "The Happening" without smiling. That
song would bring Leonard Cohen out in a grin.

They're turning the Christmas lights on in Nottingham on Wednesday. Now
that's depressing...

Big Stu

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From elenita99 at xxx.com  Mon Nov 13 15:06:52 2000
From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita99)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 10:06:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: I am on subject-strike today for no precise reason really
Message-ID: <385407815.974128012622.JavaMail.root@web572-mc>

Hello there Sinister,

Quizz of the week: 10 points to the one who guess where my headings come
from. Yes I know I make your Monday a bit more fun, no need to thank me :)

*This could be the start, the beginning of everything else*
I moved! And my new flat is great! My flatmates are normal persons, my
landlord is great (he brought us a TV this week-end, woohoo) and my room is
big and I have a huuuge bed where I can sleep like a marmot. Maybe we will
have a new flatmate coming in this week, a Spanish guy, so far it is a very
French-speaking flat, but well who cares?
More I live on the fourth floor without lift and I guess it�s for my own
good.

*I feel pretty, oh sooo pretty*
Moreover I love my new neighbourhood. As my mum would say it is more
�popular�, but people are just lovely. The guy from the grovery shop calls
me �guapa� and the lady from the bakery �mu�eca�, I just feel great when I
go for some food ;)

*Let�s pretend we�re bunny rabbits*
Mr Jordi and Peter Miller and I had a mini-picnic on Saturday, we went to
the park and jumped around like bunny rabbits (sssh you two no one knows I
am lying about the jumping bit) It was nice, as usual, we had beers and
talked about football. It is funny how picnics turn into beer-and-footie
stuff when there are some English people around. Well I tried to pretend I
knew things about football and I hope I did well.

*I�ve seen it all*
I bought �Selma Songs� from Bjork. And I even listened to it. Well I didn�t
cry like a baby but still after seeing the film last week listening to the
songs made me feels funny.
And I also got the new Gentles Waves album. It�s nicer than the previous
one, if you ask me. I like very much �Falling from grace�, especially when
Isobel says �twas just a night� and then the �tin tin tin� bit starts, it
makes me shivers.

I can hear my homework calling me from my bag. Grrr.

Have a good week
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From jaffa_cakes at xxx.com  Mon Nov 13 17:51:22 2000
From: jaffa_cakes at xxx.com (Pamela Tait)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:51:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: The Most Important Thing I've Ever Written
Message-ID: <16419495.974137882115.JavaMail.imail@slippery>

I think that it's sometimes best to keep your mouth shut when you have
something really important to say. Sometimes the aftermath of disclosing
such information can cause chaos.

That's what I think anyway. Sometimes the world doesn't like me very much.
But that's no reason to take it out on the Sinister List.

Anyway, I get peeved off at things like new WAP phones not working and
tumble driers that switch themselves off half way through drying your
clothes.

I'm going to recite the whole of If You're Feeling Sinister backwards for
this auction thing. I'll show you all. Chris Geddes has seen my Bagpuss
impression so I think I'm already in with a chance.

It's important to aim for things. Without aims, we'd all just be lying
around in the gutter eating cabbage out of each others ears while small
Russian children steal our clothes to erect a small village in the
mountains.

I think I'm on the verge of crying. Which hasn't happened since....the other
night I was drunk with Jason, Sarah and Amy. 

I'm just feeling a bit lost today, kids. Been trying to avoid some people
and I know that it's not the answer.

*pause* I'm thinking about moving away from Glasgow.

There I've said it. I know that it's not the time or the place and I'm sorry
if I upset anyone by announcing this on the Sinister Mailing List but I've
just had about enough of this place. It's time to move on.

Where to, though? God. I should go now. And figure out what exactly it is I
want out of life. 

Okay, sorry for taking up valuable time space and attention.

The Girl With Tear In Her Eye

a.k.a.

Toffee

a.k.a.

Pamela tait

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From wpsalt at xxx.com  Mon Nov 13 20:45:30 2000
From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:45:30 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister:  you'd expect them to be *intelligent*
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10011132014070.676-100000@candle.btinternet.com>


I noticed there's not been much List Traffic lately, so I thought I should
do my bit for bandwidth-wastage.  Beats work.  I *promise* I will put some
content in.

I was *really* pissed off today, so I need to cheer myself up.  I was at
work, you see, putting library books back on shelves, and I just got fed
up with the full-time staff who man the returns desk and put my books on a
trolley for me.  They always manage to give me books which belong in a
different part of the library, so I hand them back again, and they put
them on my trolley again, and we go round and round in circles until I end
up having a go at them and they complain that they're all far too busy to
pay attention to what they're doing.  Gnnaaargh.  I have to take my anger
out on the students who ask stupid questions.  I mean, this is a
University Library; you are *supposed* to be able to read signs, use
computers, and suchlike.   I want my trolley to have *big* spikes on the
front.

Another off-pissing thing:  I have lost my copy of IYFS.  I think the cat
must have eaten it; he tends to scatter them about the place.  He has
also managed to reboot the computer and type in Icelandic just by jumping
on the keyboard.  He didn't just type Ctrl+Alt+Del either, but did it
properly through the menus.  I shall have to persuade him to write my
thesis for me.

Incidentally, are there any listees living anywhere in the Western Isles?
My thesis supervisor was dropping little hints today that he'd like me to
take a trip to the Uists.  In February.  Personally, I don't think this is
a good idea, as I do not have enough suitable wooly clothes to be able to
wear five or six layers of them.

I saw recently that Jen (or was it?) had rocks thrown at her head.  Sounds
nasty.  The hard kids were never that hard in my day.  Back in the
nineties (ooh, nostalgia) the hard kids I used to avoid would just throw
insults.  The ones in the harder parts of town *had* rocks, but never
threw them for fear that the hard kids from our school would beat them up
by way of retribution.  Trespassing on their turf, as it were.  Everyone
at our school was Hard By Repute; the local paper would run headlines
about how we had caused riots in the town centre (at least one was
completely fictional, but never mind).

I, on the other hand, have Never Been Hard.  I still try to avoid the hard
kids, but I have tried to develop a Menacing Air to use when I can't.
It's not convincing, believe me.

Incidentally, I removed my beard the other month.  The damn thing's grown
back again.  Arse!  I must try to get the hang of getting up more than
five minutes before I have to go out in the morning, so I can retain my
baby-cheeked youthful whatsit.  The beard really wouldn't suit if I wanted
to go out one night wearing a dress.  Not that I do, but you never know.

(although, of course, I am severely under- and over-equipped in other
areas for that :-)

Anyway, I have to go: the cat is scratching at the door.  He must want
another bucket of cheap meat, or something.  Err, content.  Was the
missing IYFS copy enough?  No?  Errm -- I've been thinking about buying
the Gentle Waves album, because I pass it in a shop window every morning
on the way to the library.   However, if I do, the cat will try to eat it
or claw it to death within *seconds*.  Like he does to me, in fact.
Ta-taa.

-- 
Will Salt


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From edb213 at xxx.edu  Mon Nov 13 22:52:15 2000
From: edb213 at xxx.edu (eric)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:52:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: the thin british supermodel twiggy conquered the u.s. fashion world
 in 1967... then she toppled the johnson administration.
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.30.0011131735580.5852-100000@is9.nyu.edu>

hello everyone. I apologize for the long subject.

I have just a few things I wanted to share with all of you today. they
shall be numbered thusly for your swift consumption:

1. the new gentle waves is da bomb. buy it (even the isobel haters!
especially the isobel haters). it has nice vocals and nice strings and
nice drums and nice words. it's generally nice, is what I'm trying to say.
2. I heard sodastream for the first time this weekend. I like them, but I
can't really understand the belle and sebastian comparison. I guess it's
like the difference between the white and the orange american cheese.
actually, it's not like that at all, really.
3. I was told today that I was dressed like christopher robin (of winnie
the pooh fame). I was wearing grayish khakis and a maroon sweater
over a yellow collared shirt. I had a good laugh at that, but secretly it
pleased me. now I know what to be for halloween next year.
right, okay. I'm off to try and concentrate on american history.

-eric


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From llu at xxx.edu  Tue Nov 14 00:42:38 2000
From: llu at xxx.edu (Liqin Lu)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:42:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: need help with b+s recommendations
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0011131854510.27815-100000@cougar.middlebury.edu>

hi sinister ppl! hope ur all good. i'm asking u guys a favor. i need help
choosing b+s CDs to get someone into b+s. she's this lovely lovely person
who also happens to be my italian teacher. she only has 'boy with the arab
strap' and she admitted that she's not really into b+s. she says the songs
r so sad that every time she listens to them she tries to kill herself,
and that 'they r like...the smiths gone wrong.' well, true that b+s songs
r sometimes really depressing, but they r more than sadness, and thats
what i'm trying to show her. now she told me she likes more 'avantgard'
music, and i'm feeling a bit hopeless at this attemp. would any of u
consider b+s avantgard? maybe just a tiny bit? i am going to give it a try
anyway (this is the responsibility of being a b+s fan =) but i still need
help choosing CDs, which ones do u think would be more appropriate for a
potential b+s beginner like her? i have all the EPs and LPs except for
'tigermilk' (which i lent to one of my best friends and is on the way
home, but it'll not get here in time becuz it takes about 3 months for it
to get here from china and she only sent it last month...)

a BIG thank-u!

liqin 


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From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com  Tue Nov 14 11:00:52 2000
From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:00:52 GMT
Subject: Sinister: What's the matter with just counting each one?
Message-ID: <F97SotwBP8xidGVwPGx000025f2@hotmail.com>

Bonjour personnes de Sinistre.

What a weekend. I got drunk and made a fool of myself in front of a girl I 
like (but that's prolly for the best if I'm going away for six months next 
week), and I played so much pool I'm dreaming about it. I dreamt I was 
playing pool in a deserted pub with an Irish list member (Nessa)who I know 
(but have never seen). She was very good (at pool, that it), amd she kept on 
beating me. Anyway...

I have a few things to say, but only one important one, and I'm afraid it 
has very little to do with the mighty Scottish septet. I'll do the important 
one first.

                    *** THE IMPORTANT BIT***
Some of you may remember that back in September I posted about a friend of 
mine who got knocked down by a car, and was paralysed. I also said that it 
probably wasn't a permanent thing, and that the men in white coats think 
that he may walk again. Well hey: this weekend, following lots of physio 
(which make him look very silly), he got out of his chair of his own accord! 
Okay, so he took three steps and then kind of toppled into one of the docs, 
but he found that hilariously funny, and I was just amazed that he did 
anything at all. So yeah, uplifting stuff really, all round. After all the 
shit, a couple of pidgeon steps make things so much better.

So that was the important bit. Well, important to me, and I like to share 
these things. Here come a less important bit:

                       *** US ELECTION ***
I'm a bit bored of this farce of a democratic process, but I'll have my 
two-penneth anyway. This may seem deafeningly naive, but why can't everybody 
just sit down in a church hall, and put all the Gore votes on one side, and 
all the Bush votes on another side, and then count up each one, and whoever 
gets more votes wins? I mean, isn't that what they do over here (in the UK)? 
Row and rows of people sit at trestle tables counting votes all day. How 
many people are there in Florida? There can't be *that* many votes to be 
counted, and, from what I gather, even if a computer can't count them, the 
human eye can. So hmmm, it just seems too simple...

Anyway, I think that's about it for time being. I'm going away soon, so I 
won't be on this list for much longer, but I'll send a brief farewell post 
in before I leave. In the meantime, if there are any skiiers on the list who 
are doing a season this season in France, get in contact!

Right, I'll shut up now.

love

Sam.x
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From jaffa_cakes at xxx.com  Tue Nov 14 12:11:24 2000
From: jaffa_cakes at xxx.com (Pamela Tait)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 04:11:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: A Winter's Tale
Message-ID: <16681805.974203884941.JavaMail.imail@slippery>

As I meandered throught an empty Glasgow street I noticed the loneliness
that Christmas brings. The Oxfam shop, trying it's best to make the window
display as festive as possible, a Silent Night LP sat at a jaunty angle,
next to a Phil Collins record. I peer in the window and notice the revolving
book case filled with dog-eared Mills & Boon novels.

I walk on. I think about how a shop like that survives throughout Christmas.
When everyone else is busy buying VCR's and clothes and turkeys and
trimmings, that little shop struggles to survive, hoping that the regular
target audience will remember to grace it's doortstep and not leave it out
at Christmas.

It's the same with garden shops. You'll be hard pushed to find a busy one at
this time of year. Who'll be buying plants for this weather? While other
shops are looking for Christmas staff, those shops will be having to lay
people off, cause it's getting a bit quiet.

As I walked on down the street, I just thought all these depressing thoughts
about homeless people and how they're going to hate Christmas. People are
always so much more crueller and uncaring for the homeless at Christmas.
People are too busy to care about other peoples feelings. It's not right. I
really don't want to go into all the horrible thoughts I have about lonely
people at Christmas. Suicide rates go up, no one bats an eyelid. Think of
children who are beaten, abused and maltreated. Do you think Christmas is
going to be any different. If anything, it'll emphasise the divide between
themselves and kids who are lucky ewnought to have a stable homelife.

Anyway, if you can be happy, please do so.

But just think about others, eh?

Thanks....

Pamela
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From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com  Tue Nov 14 19:08:47 2000
From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE HENRY DICKIE)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:08:47 GMT
Subject: Sinister: BOXING FOR HONEY (GIRLS! GIRLS ! GIRLS!)
Message-ID: <F34Xx3UuyUoRKOHgPBz00002bf4@hotmail.com>


                          A LITTLE GIRL
                                                                  B
                                YER                               E
                     SHE WEARS THE CORRECT SHOES                  I
         AND THEY POINT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION                    N
                                                                  G
                   NO TIME TO BE HAPPY
                     NEED TO BE EXACT

                STYLE                                             H
                   FASHION                                        A
                ART                                               P
                   I THINK THEREFORE I AM                         P
               SMART                                              Y



IN BED
SHE LAY NEXT TO ME
             ASLEEP                                               I
                                                                  S
I WANTED TO TALK

                     I LAY MY HEAD ON HER BELLY

                        A TEAR STARTED TO ROLL FROM MY EYE
                                                                  B
MMMMM                                                             E
MAGICALLY                                                         I
    THE TEAR FELL FROM MY FACE                                    N
                                                                  G
AND SPLASHED INTO HER


            BELLY BUTTON

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM                       S
                                                                  E
                           IT REMINDED ME OF                      L
                       WHEN I WAS A KID                           F
         AND MY DAD GAVE ME A 2 PENCE PIECE                       I
    TO THROW INTO A WISHING WELL                                  S
THAT                                                              H
WE FOUND
ON ONE OF THOSE LONELY FAMILY WALKS


                   I ASKED MY DAD IF
I WOULD
            GET CHANGE
        FROM THE 2P

                      MY DAD SAID                                 D

            *DON'T BE STUPID
                      U
               JUST THROW THE MONEY INTO THE WELL AND MAKE A WISH*

I IGNORED HIM

THREW IN THE 2P

AND WISHED FOR CHANGE

                                                                  E

                          MMMMMMMM
                      WE ALL WISH FOR CHANGE DON'T WE?


LUCKYLY MY CHILDHOOD MEMORY MOMENT
           WAS STOPPED BY A VOICE
                        TYPE NOISE

HOWEVER

SHE WAS STILL ASLEEP                                              A

MMMM WHERE DID THIS VOICE COME FROM?

                     AMAZINGLY IT WAS FROM HER
                              BELLY BUTTON

BB - HELLO
      HEN


                                                                  T
               GHD - HELLO



BB - WHY ARE YOU
      NOT ASLEEP?



               GHD - MMMMMM NOT SURE
                    I WANTED TO TALK WITH HER
                   BUT SHE WENT TO SLEEP
                  MMM DO U TALK WITH HER?



BB - YES
      SHE TELLS ME EVERYTHING
       WE ARE VERY CLOSE




                GHD - YES I CAN SEE THAT
                     MMMMMMMMM
                    SO WHAT DO I CALL U?

                                                                  H


BB - WHATEVER U WANT



                GHD - I WILL CALL U BELLE




BELLE - YES ERRRR
         I WILL CALL YOU SEBASTIAN
          THAT WAY IF YOU REPORT THIS CONVERSATION ON THE LIST
           YOU CAN FOOL THE SCROLL KIDS INTO THINKING
            THAT IT HAS SOME SORT OF B&S CONTENT




                SEBASTIAN - I LIKE THE WAY U THINK
                           MMMMM SO WHAT CAN U
                          TELL ME ABOUT HER
                        MMM SHE DOESN'T TELL ME MUCH



BELLE - SHE ISN'T LIKE U THINK SHE IS
         SHE HIDES THE REAL HER FROM YOU
          SHE LIKES CONTROL




                 SEBASTIAN - MMM WELL YER I KNOW THAT
                            SHE HAS TOTAL CONTROL OF ME
                           SHE WON'T TALK TO ME UNLESS
                          I AM WEARING MY DR WHO (TOM BAKER) Y-FRONTS
                         AT FIRST I THOUGHT IT WAS A KOOOL IDEA
                        I MEAN THE Y-FRONTS R KOOOL
                       U CAN STRECH THEM
                      AND MAKE TOM BAKER'S FACE LOOK FUNNY
                     BUT THE KOOOOL GAME IS THE HARDEST GAME
                    ONCE IN MMMM THERE IS LITTLE CHANCE TO ESCAPE
                   IT LEADS TO AN EMPTY LONELY LIFE




BELLE - WHAT ARE YOU                                              B
         TALKING ABOUT SEBASTIAN?                                 E
                                                                  I
                                                                  N
                                                                  G

                  SEBASTIAN - MMM BELLE EVERY OTHER ACTION
                             EVERY OTHER WORD
                            MUST BE KOOOOOOOOOOOOL
                           MMMM PRESSURE




BELLE - I THOUGHT YOUR EVERY OTHER WORD                           S
         WAS MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM                                      A
                                                                  D



                   SEBASTIAN - MMMM THAT'S TRUE




BELLE - WHAT DOES MMMMMM MEAN?




                   SEBASTAIN - MMMM IT REPRESTENS LOST LOVES      I
                              LOST THOUGHTS ETC                   S




BELLE - REALLY?




                   SEBASTIAN - MMM NOT SURE
                              BUT IT SOUNDS KOOOOL




BELLE - SEBASTIAN ERRR WHY DON'T YOU JUST STOP
         TRYING TO BE KOOOL
                                                                  B
                                                                  E
                                                                  I
                                                                  N
                   SEBASTAIN - MMM K THAT SOUNDS KOOOL            G
                              MMMM LOOK BELLE
                             I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT HER
                            TELL ME ABOUT HER
                           THIS CONVERSATION IS GOING NOWHERE




BELLE - WELL THAT IS YOUR FAULT
         BUT I WILL TELL YOU ABOUT HER
          ERRR FOR A START SHE DOESN'T LIKE B&S
           SHE THINKS THEY ARE DRY LIKE PUFF PASTERY              I
            ALSO                                                  N
             SHE IS INTO HEAVY METAL                              D
              AND LINE DANCING                                    U
                                                                  L
                                                                  G
                    SEBASTIAN - WOW MMMMMM                        E
                               MMMM OUR RELATIONSHIP IS A LIE     N
                              GIRLS CAN BE CONFUSING              T
                             MMMMM HEY MMMMMM
                            HANK MY ELECTRIC TOOTHBRUSH
                           MMM HE LIKES LINE DANCING




BELLE - OH PLEASE TELL ME
         YOUR NOT STILL TALKING TO YOUR TOOTHBRUSH
          IT ISN'T HEALTHY
           IT IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE
            BE CAREFUL




                    SEBASTIAN - HOW DARE U
                               TALK ABOUT HANK IN THAT WAY




BELLE - SORRY
         ERRR HOW IS HE?




                     SEBASTIAN - FINE MMM
                                HE HAS A CRUSH ON NEKO CASE
                               HE WANTS TO BE
                              ONE OF HER BOYFRIENDS
                             MMM HE THINKS HE HAS A CHANCE
                            BECAUSE ON THE BACK OF HER LP
                           JUST BEHIND NEKO THERE IS A SINK
                          MMM WITH A TUBE OF TOOTHPASTE
                         BUT NO TOOTHBRUSH IN SIGHT
                        MMMM HANK IS BEGGING ME
                       TO SEND HIM BY POST TO HER
                      MMM BUT I WOULD MISS HANK
                     MMMMM BUT I SUPPOSE IT IS A KOOOL IDEA




BELLE - I LIKE NEKO CASE




                    SEBASTIAN - LOVELY
                               MMMMMMMMMM FORGET NEKO
                              BACK TO THE SUBJECT BELLE
                             MMMMMMMM
                            DOES SHE LOVE ME
                           CARE FOR ME
                          LIKE ME
                         ETC



BELLE - NO
         SHE ONLY LOVES
          CAMEL CIGS
           ERRRRR I WANT TO GO TO SLEEP NOW
            YOUR RIGHT
             THIS CONVERSATION IS GOING NOWHWERE




                     SEBASTIAN - MY LIFE IS OVER
                                MMMMMMMM
                               AM I BORING U




BELLE - MMMMMMM




                      SEBASTIAN - YER U GOT THE HANG OF IT
                                 GOOD APPLICATION




BELLE - MMM WHATEVER
         YOU CAN ASK ME ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT HER
          THEN I MUST SLEEP
           MAKE IT GOOD




                       SEBASTIAN - MMMMM K MMM
                                  LAST NIGHT WHEN WE WATCHED TEENWOLF
                                 AND SHE SAID SHE DIDN'T LIKE IT
                                MMMM WAS SHE LYING?
                               MMM DOES SHE SECRETLY LOVE TEENWOLF?




BELLE - MMMM YER SHE WAS LYING
         SHE SECRETLY HATED IT
          MMM APART FROM THE BIT WHEN HE TURNS INTO A WOLF




                        SEBASTIAN - MMMMM GOODNIGHT





MMM AFTER
THIS CONVERSATION ENDED
            MMM BELLE WENT TO SLEEP

  MMMM  AND SO DID I


   MMMM I CAN'T REMEMBER IF I DREAMT THAT NIGHT

MM BUT IF I DID

MMM IT WOULD OF PROBABLY INVOLVED A PINK GRAPEFRUIT
AND NIGELLA LAWSON IN SOME WAY


                 MMMM STRANGELY
              AFTER THAT NIGHT
          OUR RELATIONSHIP BLOSSOMED
                        FOR A FEW SHORT MONTHS

HOWEVER
   SOMETHING OUT OF MY CONTROL HAPPENED
AND
  THE RELATIONSHIP WAS TERMINATED

                 MMM THINKING ABOUT IT NOW
IT SEEMS QUIET FUNNY
BUT AT THE TIME

         IT WAS DEVASTATING


                               MMMM
WHAT HAPPENED
      WAS ...........

               MY
        TOM BAKER Y-FRONTS

REGENERATED INTO PETER DAVISON
                     BOXER SHORTS

               MMMMM

                                 MMMM YER
                             THAT IS WHERE I HAVE BEEN


MMMM I MISS THAT BELLY BUTTON




WOW
GHD
2000


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From sweetie_something at xxx.com  Tue Nov 14 19:10:40 2000
From: sweetie_something at xxx.com (sweetie something)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:10:40 GMT
Subject: Sinister: ...and i remember the last time i was here
Message-ID: <F276wicL4UdmWrPcvOZ00004b3b@hotmail.com>

sinister

ah
tis one of those days today

christmas-is-a-coming
and to get in the christmas spirit
ive attached a bell to me wallet chains
:)

i was in glasgow yesterday eve
me and my matey snowflake
we squatted right in the very middle of george square
oh yes

(this is not a very cheery post
-youve been warned)

we were going to c vast & my vitriole (supporting) in king tuts
and we were inside
but there was no seats
so went away for a wander
came back
and they wouldnt let us back in
was well pissed
fortunatly
managed to sell our tickets outside
but it still cost us 3squid each way to get there and back
bloody 6squid10p journey
grrr

well
me boyf as been an gone
and it went..
badly
:(
basically
he was a complete bastard to me
on the fri nite i caught him with his hand on my little sisters leg
"it didnt mean anything so theres nothing to think about"
is what he said
i didnt c him on his last day (sat) an he was leaving early sun morn
then at 1.30am sunday
he called me
drunk
demanding that i go over to his right then
or that was it
he had called me mobile
and was accusing me of being with someone else
saying i wasnt even at home
i was obviously at some others guys house
he said hed call me a taxi
and if i didnt arrive at his house
in 20mins (thats how far away he stays by car)
it was over
i went
i was well tired
so we just slept
then the next morn i saw him off at the train station
and thats it
were still together
hell be back at xmas

my parents r getting a divorce
theyve been split about 2yrs now
and me
being the oldest
well i get to stand up in court
against my dad
she asked me if id talk to her solicitor
i said ok
she didnt tell hed find out
let alone that id have to go to court
:(
fortunatly
i wont have to lie
i wouldnt anyway
hes the liar

my mum and marshmellow (her b/f)
went away for the weekend
so my sisters had a party on fri nite
and me on sat
it went pretty well
i thought
more ppl came than i expected
and i think they had a good time
so
that makes me pleased
:)

your friend always
sweetie
xox

my phone never rings
my clocks never stop ticking
my music always playing
like my mind
games
with other people
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From phil-two at xxx.com  Tue Nov 14 21:53:26 2000
From: phil-two at xxx.com (Phil Two)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:53:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: Sinister-Friendly Establishments
Message-ID: <385085096.974238806452.JavaMail.root@web349-mc>

Hi!  I've been on the list for awhile, and been going onto chat for even
longer, but this is finally my first post.  First I would like to thank
Julie for introducing me to Belle & Sebastian and saving me from the
doldrums of a hiphop-only musical existence.

Okay, so Ive been travelling for the past few months and am constantly
surprised where B&S seems to pop up.  I have begun to compile a list of
Sinister-Friendly establishments across the globe, if anyone is interested,
where I have either heard a song or album being played!

Berlin: Circus Hostel  - Boy With Arab Strap playing in lobby.
Prague: Clown & Bard Hostel  - Tigermilk playing in bar.
Beirut: Smugglers Bar - Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying
Krakow: McDonalds - I think I heard Legal Man.  I could be wrong.
Malev Airlines: The girl seated next to me heard of Looper.

Thats about it so far.  Also, while I'm at it... I'm running out of money
spending way too much time at internet cafes, so, like, if anyone on the
list lives in Israel - can I have a floor to sleep on?  I'm harmless,
really.

Love,
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From pinefox at xxx.com  Tue Nov 14 22:26:59 2000
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 22:26:59 GMT
Subject: Sinister: where's the sixty quid you borrowed off me?
Message-ID: <F229aLToZO6fR0MlFh000000ee4@hotmail.com>


Mooro said things about Hillary sewing and stitching and stuff. I think 
that's lovely. I would love to sew stuff with Hillary. Not to mention bake. 
My own mother can't believe how much I like Hillary. But what is Hillary 
actually doing out there? It seems a bit like a potential Ken Livingstone 
situation. That's no bad thing, really.

>>>Thanks to The Pinefox for calling out to me in my hour of loneliness.

Thanks for the definite article.

I read it, agreed with some of it, but wanted to ask you about one or two of 
its more, shall we say, 'definite' assertions about voting patterns.

>>>I've got a weblog now, devoted to day-to-day apparitions of The 70s WHO. 
>>>It's called My 70s WHO Loghouse Project, and it's pretty much cornered 
>>>the market, I think. So come on, 70s WHO, Let's See Action!

Notwithstanding The Return of Frank Cannon and even The Revenance of Ally96, 
this is the funniest thing on sinister for ages, in my book.

Have you read my book? It's called 'Funny Things On Sinister, 2000' (London: 
Harvill, forthcoming 2001).

>>>She could make Paradise Lost sound like a shopping list.

Eh?

>>>I wouldn't have thought that Christmas album would make a great deal of 
>>>profit, due to the wilful exclusion of The Eurythmics.

I heard their 'Seventeen Again' in a crockery shop lately. I thought it was 
OK till I realized what it was. That's ironic, for once my response to them 
might have been the opposite.

>>>Pinefox, I don't know if I'm in Papercuts or not.

Nor do I, anymore. I thought I was, but it's all gone like mongoose. I mean, 
mangoes.

>>>Trousers is too busy hand-rotating the top of the Post Office Tower.

That much I knew.

>>>But I'm working on stuff, I'm working on stuff. Based on the homosexual 
>>>gangster orgy in "Performance".

Really. What kind of 'stuff'? A challenge to Colin MacCabe? Let's offer a 
Papercuts challenge to Colin MacCabe, that'll show them down in the West 
country, where they've all been living off Hardy tea-towels and the undying 
reputation of that Visitors flexi-disc for far too long.

White leopards, mulberry bushes

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From green at xxx.au  Tue Nov 14 23:40:23 2000
From: green at xxx.au (green)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:40:23 +1100
Subject: Sinister: Got a pretty pretty garden; pretty garden, yes
Message-ID: <009a01c04e94$96d14f80$8e7611cb@green>

***B&S FOR JUNTA***
hi folks.  this message originally contained lots of political stuff, but it
was meant pretty much for stuart gardiner, and since i just found out that i
accidentally sent this post to stuart's address (sorry stu!  cheers!) i will
remove the political stuff, it was just sort of a discussion with him
anyway.  the orginal title was "Vote: Kim Gordon wants you to" and basically
all it said was that i think it's better to vote than to refrain.
but it did inspire this scenario of a sinister revolution, which has now
been extrapolated...

***SINISTER REVOLUTION***
Cardigan-wearers of the world, unite and take over!
  A plethora of indie kids mumble shyly into megaphones, heads bowed,
shuffling down the street to the sounds of "Panic" by the Smiths.  their
placards, extolling the virtues of corduroy, are upside down.  they are
flanked by hundreds of vespas and those little bottle-green cars with white
racing stripes on the top, but most of them are just washed along on a flood
of tears.  indie record store assistants from around the country stand and
watch with their arms folded, cos they're too cool.
  the line of stormtroopers blocking the children's path wave their batons
menacingly, but there is something niggling at the back of their
(collective, cos they are police) mind.  it starts having flashbacks to when
it was at school... and what it sees causes it to go against years of
training and divide up into its original constituents!  the pigs' visors
start to fog up as their individual minds return and memories flood back:
some of them were picked on at school... some of them were the dickheads
throwing the rocks... DISSENSION IN THE RANKS!  one half starts beating the
other half up, as their highly-trained bully instincts revert to just plain
bully instincts.  meanwhile the indie kids just shuffle past, and the
inflatable Stuart Murdoch and Morrissey figures float overhead in a
charmingly revolutionary manner.  once the state is toppled, the very next
item on the agenda is to destroy ibiza.

***JENOWL ROCKS***
i'd like to offer support to Jen, whose posts i have loved and
eagerly anticipated since i joined less than two months ago.  everyone knows
that the highest levels of indie hipness are only reached by those who had
it rough in their school years.  i can't imagine you ever giving in or
selling out or whatever, but still... don't.  you're GRATE.

***I AM A MISSIONARY MAN****
and i'd like to congratulate myself for creating my first B&S-luvvin friend,
simply by lending her TBWTAS.  hopefully before long her love will turn to
an obsession.  hope it works on my girlfriend too, who has the cd now when i
reelly feel like leestening to it.  also i will soon be a part of a tape
trade, so i can spread the soft word even further.  has anyone ever
considered a sinister tape trade?  that'd be BIG.

***O COME O COME.  O COME.****
what was that address where you could hear the come song?

*(political stuff removed here... if you really want to hear why i think you
should vote, email me:)*

it's hard not to be extremely concerned
about political things if you live in australia at the moment.

love ben, who hopes australia's "left" party doesn't continue
down the path it is treading, lest we end up like america.  and who spends
his spare time hanging DJs.  xo

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From katefunky at xxx.com  Wed Nov 15 18:11:30 2000
From: katefunky at xxx.com (Kate D)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:11:30 EST
Subject: Sinister: I could be dreaming
Message-ID: <LAW2-F903u9PH3IhA1q00003b60@hotmail.com>

hello. i'm a bit tired of being a lurker so i thought i would finally 
surface. it's really not that bad up here after all. actually its rather 
nice. not quite as nice as if we had an indie revolution, but getting there.

my real reason for posting is procrastination. i have one (one!!!) exam to 
go and then freedom!!! well freedom to work in a supermarket part time and 
worry about my future because... now i am a graduate.

I just read ben's post that was missing all the political stuff... in 
australia we don't really talk much about whether or not you should vote 
until something as confusing as a us presidential election happens. i forget 
that in other places voting isn't compusory. and i suppose whether or not 
voting should be compusory is a bit political for me (i'm a pretty benign 
leftie, like most indie kids) and the list, so i will try and come up with 
some content...

when i started on the list, there were many discussions about B&S dreams. i 
was very jealous, because i hadn't had one. and after nights and nights of 
trying, i finally had one. it was lovely. i can't remember much, but it 
involved a church hall and stuart and trestle tables.

The other night i had my first flying dream, and that was much more 
exciting. you see, i've been wanting a dream where i could fly for a very 
long time. i think it was one of those things that, as soon as you think 
about it consciously, it can't happen. you have to really forget about it 
before it can happen... (nerd alert) like actually being able to fly in the 
hitchhikers guide books, you have to genuinely forget to fall. but it was a 
lovely dream , i was flying all over the place and seeing the most beautiful 
things and i felt so calm and happy after i woke up. i had the nicest day 
afterward.

anyway, psychophysiology calls, so lots of love and lollipops to the list.   
kate.

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From prbar at xxx.com  Wed Nov 15 03:42:47 2000
From: prbar at xxx.com (Phillip Runion)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 03:42:47 GMT
Subject: Sinister: ding dang walla wall bing bang
Message-ID: <F224gVs1tIzmQVuRWCy000046b5@hotmail.com>

dear sinisters,
        just a quick question: Does any one know if the lovely burd, Nicole 
Johnson, that sings back-up on some of the Modest Mouse songs has a groop of 
her own, b/c if she does i must have their records because she has one of my 
favorite singing voices, especially when she says "Flourescent lights will 
always = Empty".

Currently experiencing a mini culture-shock and on the verge of collapse 
and/or devastating explosion
- phil r
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From brier at xxx.com  Wed Nov 15 06:43:52 2000
From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 22:43:52 -0800
Subject: Sinister: We Are Young
Message-ID: <003501c04ecf$6c4daac0$0101a8c0@pavilion>

...no one can tell us we're wrong
Heartache to heartache we stand
No promises, no demands
both of us knowing...........

And I find myself hoping for something Belle & Sebastian-related to happen
to me, so I'll have some content and an excuse to post.  But f*ck it, if I
feel like posting I should post.  Just to say HI.  No content.  These days,
it's the PEOPLE on Sinister that touch my life even more than the band
itself.  That's a natural progression, and a function of the list itself, i
think.  There comes a point where we step beyond what brought us together,
and INTO being together.  Anyway.  My life has gone so many places that I
never thought it would go; I never could have dreamed of more historic or
wondrous grace than this Brier thing.  Not to say that y'all have been the
reason, but you're (each of you) a piece of broken plate in the mosaic.  So,
yeah.

I wish the "Legal Man" logo, like on the patch, was on a sticker.  I would
put it on the front of my Vespa and ride so proud.  God knows no one in
Santa Barbara EVER commented on the "&" t-shirt that I wear constantly, or
the badge that's on the armstrap of my backpack.  Where are all the B&S fans
of California?  Are there any?  A meetup would be in order, to show them all
that we exist and we are indeed Cute as Cupid.

Love & Portabellos,

Brie(like the cheese)r

P.S.  Love is a battlefield.

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From jhunt at xxx.org  Wed Nov 15 09:09:20 2000
From: jhunt at xxx.org (Jeff Hunt)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:09:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: We Are Young
In-Reply-To: <003501c04ecf$6c4daac0$0101a8c0@pavilion>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0011150059570.10723-100000@lily.dropkick.org>

On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Brier Random wrote:

> I wish the "Legal Man" logo, like on the patch, was on a sticker.  I would
> put it on the front of my Vespa and ride so proud.  God knows no one in
> Santa Barbara EVER commented on the "&" t-shirt that I wear constantly, or
> the badge that's on the armstrap of my backpack.  Where are all the B&S fans
> of California?  Are there any?  A meetup would be in order, to show them all
> that we exist and we are indeed Cute as Cupid.

I'm not one for badges, patches, and stickers, but all I know is that I
wish I could find girls in Portland who dress as dashingly as the women
featured on the cover of "Legal Man". And I would be interested in seeing
if the Portland Sinister folks would want to meet. Preferrably somewhere
that is not a nightclub or bar, so us underaged folks can attend (your
effort is admirable, however, Heather!). And I know I am as Cute as Cupid
- at least my mom says I'm a handsome boy.

> P.S.  Love is a battlefield.

Love is a U.N. Conference... and that's my quote, you can't steal it!

Jeff

--
Jeff Hunt
jhunt at dropkick.org

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From Mariusa at xxx.NO  Wed Nov 15 10:30:49 2000
From: Mariusa at xxx.NO (Marius Andreassen)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:30:49 +0100
Subject: Sinister: norway calling....
Message-ID: <E1C066C67A6AD311879700105AD614FA3877C6@proxy.bergen.na.no>

ER det noen norske b&s fan der ute?
Are there any norwegianb&s fans out there?

Mail meg please
Mail me please

Vennlig hilsen Marius Andreassen
Regards         Marius Andreassen
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From Martin at xxx.uk  Wed Nov 15 10:53:50 2000
From: Martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:53:50 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Sodastream in London 18th November
Message-ID: <OXp1dUA+smE6EwRq@send.demon.co.uk>

G'day mates!

A brief bit of abuse for you on a foggy Wednesday morning in ol' London
town, you lucky little bleeders. So get you London diaries out for:

SODASTREAM and Darren Hanlon at the Betsey Trottwood in Farringdon,
London town, Great Britain this Saturday on the 18th November at 8pm!
It's 100% Australian pop fun mate, fair dinkum... or something.

Get there early as it could be a bit busy apparently. And there'll be
music and laughter through till 1am with DJ's from Strange Fruit and
some silly list people. If you're not there at 8 you'll miss me and the
lad drunken Matt fighting and about what to play and spilling beer on
our records which could be amusing. Oh all this entertainment is
daylight robbery at an extortionate 4 English pounds... If anyone needs
anymore info let me know...

I saw Sodastream the other night play with Low and they were a bit
bloody good if anyone wants my opinion. But I'm a bit of a flaming gala
so don't mind me. Low were pretty top banana too even if their
sandwiches were from Safeway. If you know what I mean... No nor me. 

An another note, I went to the pub last night. Aren't pubs great? They
sell beer and everything.

Te ra,

Martin

P.S People also said stuff about Strange Fruit in London, which is a
monthly "eclectic" music club, the next one being on the 2nd of December
upstairs at the Garage. If you need anymore info on that email Matt at:
the_fear66 at hotmail.com
He promises to be very polite to you if you do. Well weirder things have
happened, though mainly in the haunted valley of Longdendale and Sonama
county, California...









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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Wed Nov 15 11:15:55 2000
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:15:55 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Aloha from Hairy Palm Beach County!
Message-ID: <001501c04ef5$90aec220$6d51243e@itjfvkli>

Isn't it ironic that they should be recounting votes by HAND in a place
called PALM Beach County? And they say there isn't a God. Big Stu, if you
don't like any of the candidates, you're supposed to go along and "spoil"
your ballot paper, thus ensuring the robustness of democracy whilst
registering your disapproval of the precise form it's taking at the moment
of said election. Nice to have you back. You too George Henry Dickie.

Has anyone heard the new Lloyd Cole and the Negatives album?

What a fantastic picnic we had on Saturday! Jordi made his debut as a radio
announcer last week, but his mum didn't recognise his voice.

I have absolute faith in Mister Chris's ability to blow Sodastream off stage
on Friday night. I hope you're all going. I would if I could, but I can't so
I shan't. It'll be a Cuddlecore Explosion.

Peter

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From jaffa_cakes at xxx.com  Wed Nov 15 11:33:18 2000
From: jaffa_cakes at xxx.com (Pamela Tait)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 03:33:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Don't Worry.......Be Happy.
Message-ID: <23070408.974287998791.JavaMail.imail@slippery>

I did something quite odd last night. Idleberry had mentioned that she
misses having a bath. So there I was at 2:40am, running the taps and sitting
on the edge of the tub waiting for it to fill. There was a Stephen King film
on the telly and I lost interest in it after a while. An author with a
vicious alter-ego.

I always seem to lose interest in things quickly. First it was the Stephen
King film, then I forgot I'd left the bath running while I rummaged for a
cassette in the living room. Caught the bath just in time. 

That done, I tried to cut my own hair (again) but it turned out a bit of a
mess (again). I always get crazy ideas at that time of the morning. I made a
mental note to set my alarm for 7 as I'd have to get up early. After reading
some teletext pages I hadn't seen before, I went to bed and put on The
Delgados 'American trilogy' and left it on repeat.

Woke up this morning and The Delgados were still playing (isn't music
technology wonderful these days?)

My breakfast consisted of a large portion of Idlewild, a glass of Looper and
a few slices of Marvin Gaye.

My cough is getting worse. It's now a bark. With a bite. If logic allows
that.

*pause* I feel like I should be smiling. And I think I should at least
refrain from posting until I feel a bit better. I hate this outward display
of emotional turbulence. The list isn't for people like me, it's not a place
to moan on about life. It's probably a place where people go to perhaps
escape and take their mind off life for a few minutes. And here I am
reminding you all of The Bad Things In Life.

*tries to think of something positive to say*

Oh, yeah. I've nearly finished my fanzine.

Right, bye.

Love Pamela
xxx

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From glt102 at xxx.uk  Wed Nov 15 14:41:21 2000
From: glt102 at xxx.uk (Gina Titchener)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:41:21 +0000
Subject: Sinister: it's not as if it's *fun*.. at least not anymore
Message-ID: <3A12A091.12C99512@york.ac.uk>

Hello sini-stars
		It appears to be the season of renouncing your lurkerdom and stepping
out into the spotlight of the list so I'm being brave and creeping out,
albeit squinting as I go. Be gentle with me.

	Like everyone else, there can be no real 'content', in the narrow b+s
definition, in my post tho i have been listening to 3..6..9 and iyfs a
lot recently. (contraversial proposition: 3..6..9 will be their last
great offering). iyfs, especially fox..., is fantastic to listen to on a
beautiful autumnal day like today - go and dig it out all ye english
sinistars - as are gorky's.

	My favourite game of the moment is finding the most and least
appropriate music to walk to college by. So far, b+s are most, and Nut
and Lovin' Spoonful are the least. See, I have to walk through an army
barracks to get to class, whence I am surrounded by barbed wire and
personnel carriers and men with guns, and listening to Daydream by L.S.
whilst doing so is , ahem, ironic to say the least. I also (and this
truly seals my claim to 'most bizarre trip to school': i challenge
anyone to out-do me) have to walk through a field of cows, and listening
to Nut singing "I eat brains; animal, criminal. Books will be written
about me" as i do so absolutely kills me. *Surely* she didn't write
Brains about BSE. 

LIST RELEVANT TOPICS
	
I'd like to think Pam Tait, and anyone else, could feel they can post
about having a bad day or feeling down. I don't think anyone would
begrudge them that, and it's something we can all relate to. I like to
think we're all supportive of each other, and don't act like wider
society in not wanting to listen when someone isn't feeling 100%. Hardly
a staggeringly original view! but i thought pam should be reassured /
encouraged.

The election shenanigans is highly amusing. Sorry all american listees
but, in my household at least, we are having a great time watching the
circus that is the american voting system. How can it be so biased? The
idea that judges who are blatantly aligned to one party can decide how
many of the votes cast are going to be counted is to my eyes ludicrous.
Why not stop when you've counted all the votes? That way, they all get
counted! Does it not violate some constitutional right if you vote and
it isn't counted?

My heart went out to jenowl when i read about her ordeal at school: i
felt really frustrated at the idea that it could happen again and again
and there would be nothing to stop them. I abhor violence any way but
this makes me sick.

END OF LIST RELEVANT TOPICS

We need a new thread i feel, tho i would never be so forward as to
impose my ideas on you all, topics should be organic. The only things i
have any knowledge of are the floods in york, the sexism inherent in our
education system (read Invisible Women by Dale Spender if you've an
afternoon free, it might change your classtimes forever) and Vector
Calculus. If anyone would like a discussion of any of these, mail me! I
can prolly clear up any queries you have over directional derivatives...	

Sorry i have not been sufficiently interesting, especially on a day like
today with over ten posts, but i have had a burning desire to post for
about two weeks and i could ignore it no more. I shan't bother you again
for another 6 months i 'spect unless something important happens to me.

love and space rockets,
g
going up in style

"I wake up feeling fragile - it's nothing the tv couldn't fix, or lying
here for my whole life" 
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From Mark at xxx.com  Wed Nov 15 14:49:36 2000
From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:49:36 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Everybody loves that man
Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22011D35FA@SERVER1>

Thought I'd better break the silence to say...

I've just bought the soundtrack to "Bugsy Malone" and it's the best record
in the world!!!

Oh, and go and bid to DJ at the next Tigermilking (date tbc) - remember,
it's for charidee...

http://www.qxl.com/cgi-bin/qxl.filereader?502985207+EN/products/Q1004491885/
_10837853
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/_10837853> 

Ta!

Mark, who's looking forward to seeing all you Londoners at the Mell St
thingy on Saturday xxx



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From jules at xxx.cx  Wed Nov 15 17:13:44 2000
From: jules at xxx.cx (Julie)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:13:44 -0500
Subject: Sinister: This whitey music ain't half bad!
Message-ID: <002d01c04f27$6a78e2c0$4e1ba5d8@nyu.edu>

Two things have inspired me to post today. 1) Phil posted and I love Phil.
The subject line is a Phil-quote.  2) I hate everything.
You know how it is, when you have a day where everything demands hating?
Here are some things that I hate.  1) Roommates who make odd squeaking
noises in their sleep.  This squeaking noise is difficult to explain.  It
sounds a little like the noise produced when one makes balloon animals.  I
can't imagine what part of a human produces this noise.  Often when the
noise is made, I have an urge to walk over and stare at Megan...I mean, the
roommate...to ascertain why she sounds like a balloon animal in her sleep.
But it's always dark and I'm tired, and I would rather be asleep than
investigating squeaky noises.  2) Large, bureaucratic, unsympathetic
universities.  Like, NYU for example.  3) Ah, what should be included on
every hate list:  Stupid people.
There are many more things I hate, but I am too tired to list them now.
Now, sometimes I keep Sinister mails that I mean to post replies about, but
it takes me a while to get around to them.  Here, then, is some rehashing of
old posts.
A long time ago, Jenowl said:
>Any one remember that? It was a kid's tv >progmramme in the late 80's/early
>90's about this girl called Wisp, and she found a >magical rainbow belt,
and
>she became Rainbow Brite...
Do I remember Rainbow Brite!  Fookin' hell, she was my imaginary friend for
years!!!  I owned the following RB merchandise.  1 large Rainbow Brite doll.
1 large Shy Violet doll.  1 large Patty O'Green doll (note, when I was
little, I thought it was Patio Green.  It wasn't until I was about 16 that I
realized that didn't make any sense.) 1 large Baby Brite doll. 1 small
Canary Yellow doll (and sprite). 1 small Indigo doll (and sprite).  1 small
Tickled Pink doll (and sprite). 1 small Rainbow Brite doll (and sprite).  1
small Patio Green doll (and sprite). 1 stuffed Starlight horsey. 1 Rainbow
Brite-in-a-hot-air-balloon wall hanging. 2 tapes of Rainbow Brite P!O!P!
music, one general, one Christmas.  Included such hits as "Starlight,
Rainbow Brite, a little wish in the moonlight", and a rearranging of Jingle
Bells to be about sprites and Color Crystals.  This was almost as great as
the tape I have of the Chipmunks singing hits of the late 70s/ early 80s,
such as Take A Chance On Me and Whip It and Bettie Davis Eyes.
Then a slightly less long time ago, honey and Juicy Lucy said some things
about ring tones that went something like this:
>aa#aaGF+f+f+f+f+E+E+d+d+c+c#ap#a#aa#a+c#aAGffggA+f+f+e+f+g+f+E+D+c+c+d+d+E+
C+d+d+d+d+E+F+E+D+C
This was great, because I just got a new phone that I love and hug and email
people from daily, and I would love it to sing Belle and Sebastian songs to
me, except WHAT DOES THAT MEAN???  If I am going to learn to play an
instrument, it is not going to be the mobile phone.  Although I think a
xylophone would be a good thing to learn how to play, it's underutilized in
pop music, isn't it?  For a great xylophone tune, you should listen to
Everybody Knows Canada by Masters of the Hemisphere!
Honey if I bring my phone to you will you make it sing for me? :o)
Then little Martin Robinson said:
>I wonder if I can get a listing in
>Smash Hits? As that would make me only a few steps away from Ronan
>Keating, and that's a few steps from god. ...Ronan I repent!
Unfortunately for Martin, Ronan will never forgive him for living with that
unabashed pop-hater Matt Powell.  Yes Martin, despite your efforts, you'll
probably still go to Pop Hell.  But that's okay, Deborah Gibson will be
there, and so will the new "serious" Steps.  And Stephen "Gay"tely for
providing inspirational music over the credits of Billy Elliot.  I like you
anyway Martin.
Then dear Oon said:
>i've just bought the loveliest pink shoe!
>by destiny!  i can swear something made me walk to that
>shop that i didn't have any business at all to be.  and there
>she is, waiting for me.  the only pair.  the only size.  mine.
>hahahaha
Shopping Rage is a sad affliction.  Like air rage or road rage, it's not
pleasant to witness.  Oon's glee in obtaining pink shoes out from under the
noses of other unsuspecting customers incited fear deep within my soul.  I
know now that I can never go shoe shopping with Oon, I just don't have the
fighter instinct!  Although her feet are a lot smaller than mine so we
probably wouldn't be vying for the same shoes.
And I think that's it!  I realize that by now the only people reading this
are those of you who know me and thus felt obligated to read my babble.
Therefore, it's the perfect time for Shout Outz To My Homeez, particularly
the #sinisterines.  If you are not in #sinister, why aren't you?  What's
wrong with you?  We've rid it of the pesky #emo kids and it's a safe haven
now.  Come visit us.  You know I love you, don't you?
xoxo
Julie

PS: Thank you for listening, I still hate everything but now I feel a little
better about it.

"It's only pop music, why are you asking me all these questions?!"  -Robbie
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From jhunt at xxx.org  Wed Nov 15 19:04:47 2000
From: jhunt at xxx.org (Jeff Hunt)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:04:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: We Are Young 
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0011151104340.11025-100000@lily.dropkick.org>


On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Brier Random wrote:

> I wish the "Legal Man" logo, like on the patch, was on a sticker.  I would
> put it on the front of my Vespa and ride so proud.  God knows no one in
> Santa Barbara EVER commented on the "&" t-shirt that I wear constantly, or
> the badge that's on the armstrap of my backpack.  Where are all the B&S fans
> of California?  Are there any?  A meetup would be in order, to show them all
> that we exist and we are indeed Cute as Cupid.

I'm not one for badges, patches, and stickers, but all I know is that I
wish I could find girls in Portland who dress as dashingly as the women
featured on the cover of "Legal Man". And I would be interested in seeing
if the Portland Sinister folks would want to meet. Preferrably somewhere
that is not a nightclub or bar, so us underaged folks can attend (your
effort is admirable, however, Heather!). And I know I am as Cute as Cupid
- at least my mom says I'm a handsome boy.

> P.S.  Love is a battlefield.

Love is a U.N. Conference... and that's my quote, you can't steal it!

Jeff

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From pinefox at xxx.com  Wed Nov 15 22:48:27 2000
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:48:27 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Streets Of Fire
Message-ID: <F82xLDp7mvjkO22ZhCl0000010b@hotmail.com>


out
in

greenwich
one rises
and says

G'day mates!

G'day g'day g'day

Good day good day good day

A brief bit
and it is only brief
it will have been brief
we will have been quick or dead
and not known -
or known -
the scant transactions of the two.

of abuse for
you on
and on you
and you on
the wireless the
stage the
moving picture house
there will be little but words
and pictures

a foggy Wednesday morning
in ol' London town,
I stepped out of the bakery
and met Ms Martha Brown.
Ms Marth Brown I said to her
were you not someone's bride?
Why yes, she said with cold regard
Someone who went and died.

you lucky little bleeders.
you poor children
of a century with too much soul
more than it yet knows

So get you London diaries out
for
Elijah is coming
and the geese are getting fat
on rumours and cheese rinds
and corkscrews and lard

and the diary will have had space for a hundred more
irremediable indiscretions

SODASTREAM and Darren Hanlon
at the Betsey Trottwood
she trott
like a tot
I trott after her
Trent Lott
in a rented car
in a rented lot
she call the police
in frantic voices
in Farringdon,
in Moorgate,
in High Holborn
and in Aldgate East
I hear a keening
a sharpening of the knife

London town,
why do you lie above me
and fly below
breeding rare dreams
and smoke of boats
my love she speaks
like silence
Great Britain
the coast sweats erosion
and at Ramsgate only a
barbe-a-papa to make
time tell against us

this Saturday on
and next Sunday
and every Monday there will have been a day
a day to choose,
a time to gather
syllables apart

she said
the 18th November
at 8pm!
she said
i said
whats the point of that
she told me It's 100% Australian
pop fun mate, fair dinkum... or something.
I can hear them coming nigh
below the sign of the Blue Boar

Get there early
or late,
it skills not to ask, for to ask
one cannot ask
until one knows the question
et je ne le sais pas d�ja
as it could be a bit busy
apparently. and in reality
and in the greater world
and in the little world
we shall have our business
and we shall be busy
by the sun, by the moon
And there'll be
music and laughter
and whiskey and wine
- he's doing fine, yes, ma'am, just fine -

through till 1am
I waited
a jackdaw's beak pinned on my breast.
'Another ending', she pledged me,
'"where" the dogs can't hear'.
with DJ's
and ABCs
and Lyons Corner Houses
a 'poet' or two gather

from Strange Fruit and
mulberries, for yea, there will be bushes
and trees, the vegetables will grow,
this year, I think.
I think, this year, and go East.

some silly list people.
some hollow disciples.
some police pregnant with words they dare not utter.
some weavers looming and spilling and catching.
If you're not there
you're now here
at 8
at 7
at the clock
at the station, under the clock,
yes, that is where we meet, I have seen it all now,
you'll miss me and
I shan't even, shan't even have gone.

the
lad
drunken
the maid
who
bleeds
who will

Matt fighting and about
I told her, Doreen, get out while you can
what to play and spilling beer
and mugs of tea, and toast, and your reflection
on our records which could be amusing.
Oh all this entertainment
'is too much for my nerves'
she breathes, with one of deception's sighs.
daylight robbery at an extortionate 4 English pounds...
just you try it on!
If anyone needs
anymore
no more
anymore
here
there will have been more
somewhere
info
in
and out
oh, brother
oh, foe,
info
is not for the likes of us
goodbye

let me know...

goodbye

let me know...

goodbye

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From little_miss_pixie at xxx.com  Thu Nov 16 01:43:03 2000
From: little_miss_pixie at xxx.com (superfurrygrrrrl .)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 01:43:03 GMT
Subject: Sinister: eeek
Message-ID: <F1691TZ14eBa1kg3Ams000001ae@hotmail.com>


*******************************first post********************************
aaaaaah

dont hate me if i begin to talk utter pants.... this is my first post and 
its one o clock in the morning. i can hradly keep my eyes open. i do however 
have some CONTENT AAAH... well i saw the gentle waves tonight, which was 
nice. erm, i cant do reviews, but they were actually really good. nice 
version of that song (forget title) that goes 'drums keep pounding a rhythym 
to the brain laadeedaadeedee..etc', with the over excited trumpets and 
stuff. :)

im now plagued with the usual attack of depression you (well i) get when i 
meet new people and then think 'aaah they hate me'....which is happening a 
lot lately, being new to glasgow. ive just started uni, and being thrown 
into this new life and not knowing anybody is really quite terrifying but i 
(think) im settling down now.

ramble ramble.....

im just looking around this internet cafe (i know, WHAT THE HELL IS SHE 
DOING..well im a bit of an insomniac) and ive noticed theres mainly men on 
one side and women on the other. wow this is really quite facinating!
*looks again* no im not dreaming. neither have i had any belle and sebastian 
dreams (yet) but i did dream about the new nixon album (which in the dream 
actually said 'dixon') in a jukebox in the old inverness swimming pool, and 
having not heard nixon, or dixon for that matter, i put it on. it sounded 
eerily like the gorkys, in fact it was, but a song constructed entirely in 
my head. well. what does it all mean???

anyway ive taken up FAR too much of your time for a first post, so i will go 
to bed like i should have done hours ago, and i wish i could have a cup of 
hot chocolate, but poor lazy students dont get such luxuries do they?? :(

lots of love

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From jiffy_popper at xxx.com  Thu Nov 16 02:55:08 2000
From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 21:55:08 EST
Subject: Sinister: my girl, she asked me how come i don't do the boogalu
Message-ID: <F149VXLuSbh29cM3ory00000307@hotmail.com>

> > P.S.  Love is a battlefield.
>
>Love is a U.N. Conference... and that's my quote, you can't steal it!
>
>Jeff

No, Love is a knife with which we explore ourselves. But I forget who said 
that? I like it, though probably makes me sound like the 
drama-queen-sado-masochist.

I also like the more gentle:

Love consists in this,
that two solitudes protect,
and touch, and greet each other.
(rainer maria rilke)

Poo. For English I have to bring in 3 pictures and 1 song representing 
personal vision of success. For pictures so far I have a picture of a dewy, 
misty, Supple-Struan-Frolicking-worthy green field and a picture of a 
masculine hand holding a glass of champagne around a creamy, bare, feminine 
shoulder. But a song representing success? I'm lost. Maybe I should just 
bring in Eye Of The Tiger for the class.

So Phillip, pettie, we shall battle with baguettes, and eat them with 
raspberry jam when we can fight no more.

The new mouse my family got is scaring me. It has 6 buttons and a red lasar 
glaring at me from it's bum.

hot wax & tassels,
genevieve

p.s
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From Tigerxdare at xxx.com  Thu Nov 16 13:36:07 2000
From: Tigerxdare at xxx.com (Tigerxdare at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 08:36:07 EST
Subject: Sinister: richmond
Message-ID: <e8.c9ca98a.27453cc7@aol.com>

 hello everyone,
 
     i know this is sort of last minute, but is there anyone on the list that 
lives in richmond virginia or anywhere close? i will be there this weekend 
for the tattoo convention, and i want to know what there is to do there, 
clubs, shows, and what not. if anyone has any info, please email me...also 
could any uk listees elp me out and tell me what the best and cheapest train 
from london to scotland is? i'm still trying to organize my trip, and i am 
going with one other friend but so far she hasnt really helped me plan things 
at all, and since ive never been the the uk its sort of difficult to plan 
things.
 thanks,
      lauren.    p/s. hey pam its ok. we all have our bad days.  dont feel 
bad about saying so, sometimes it helps just to admit that you are not 
feeling that great. that in itself can make you feel better sometimes.  
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From carle at xxx.com  Thu Nov 16 15:22:58 2000
From: carle at xxx.com (carle groome)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:22:58 -0500
Subject: Sinister: je recuse
Message-ID: <3A13FB9E.941E697D@rcn.com>

Hi 'lo
bless me sisters, for i have sinned--NOT LURKED!
it's just that it takes soooooo much time to read the voluminous volumes
of your mail. so if i repeat themes and schemes of tired and tried odds
& ends, i seek forgiveness in advance.

re: jason mckinnon
To quote the Great White Duke himself in All the Young Dudes. :

"Who needs TV when you have T-Rex."

And. yes, that was originally a Bowie song that Mott the Hoople covered.

actually, it's "i need tv when i got t-rex"...lending itself to two
possible interpetations: 1) the requirement of the show "marc" that ran
on english tlevision in the mid-70s concurrent with the song's major
heyday of airplay; and/or 2) that said individual requires the services
of a transvestite or needs to try transvestitism as a condition arising
from t-rex. whether this is simply the use of a feather boa or an entire
ensemble is unclear.

cheers to mr ian nicholson for his interpretation of mark e. smith and
isobel collaboration. abs. spot-on terif!

And while the idea of Isobel on a Fall song is
intreguing, surely Narky Mark on a Gentile Waves
record is far more exciting.  "ACTRESSESS ON
CUPBOARDS-UH! IT WAS THE TIIIIME OF THE GIAAANT
BUNNIES-UH! IN THE NEIIIGHBOURHOOD OF INFINITYYYYYY!"
Etc.  With extra glockenspiel and recorder.  Maybe
even a video - Mark skipping through a poppy field or
something.  By 'eck, the possibilities are endless! 
Remember, kids, when it knocks Westlife off number
one, it was my idea!

and  speaking of the fall...

cheers to mr go-go-gron and fall meditation. speaking for one who's idea
of season comes from window dressings and waiting for the scent of
camphor to fade from woolens, quite sensate to say the least. and more:
why is it that the word pine evokes such a flood? sap, needles, tar...
definitely, fir is fun. and yet, to pine for, to pine about, to repine
in a pine box, in a pine fox... 
(where am i going with this?)

mmmmyew---CONTENT?!?!  i am quite content with a table of contents, or
so much for my incontinence. howsomever, there is a local eatery called
WAI cafe which i portune for portions on a regular basis. (guilt here is
that they contain said viands in non-recyclable plastic instead of the
thai place's tins or the chinese paper cartons...yet they work so much
better than tupperware, i can't bear to toss them!) their angel-hair
pasta and crabmeat with slivered asparagus notwithstanding (someday i
must really pry open that compound noun and see what it's about), it
seems that everytime i go in they have such grate (my bow to the lingua
anglica of sisternines) music, like b&s, tindersticks, nick cave, nick
drake, t-rex, beatles, scott walker... it just makes take-out feel so
serene. and yes, that's another thing: the idea of being in this astral
plane community wherein sonic solace in !p!o!p! (ok, 2nd concession
stand) is so consistent as to be of a like mind to the extent that if i
took to swanning around said cafe in a swoon i would not be considered
half-daft or a fully closet queen with a bad latch...

annnnd seeing as how i am utterly fascinated by the US elections, my
addo comments should be seen in this light. one has to posit a world
like the above (i.e., my Why Not cafe) in which a shared sense of value
makes you feel at home. that is why, when i look askance at the map of
states for shrub (overwhelmingly middle and far west and the south) and
for al (the north east and new england and the west coast) i despair for
the immediate future here. we are nearly as riven as the civil war, but
much more civil, especially civil court law, now.

so that's why i take this virtual community over a nation-state any day. 

oh yeah: orange, syringe

best pen in the whole fucking world: Pilot Varsity disposable fountain
pens for the totally awesome expressive nib

ciao and marquis cha-cha!


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From ola1212 at xxx.pl  Thu Nov 16 15:17:03 2000
From: ola1212 at xxx.pl (Ola Szkudlapska)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:17:03 +0100
Subject: Sinister: impossible things #2
Message-ID: <002e01c04fe0$48d59780$b16a4cd5@default>

hello lovely people :)

i'm slightly annoyed at the moment...
but before i get to that, a small introduction:

my school is a very small one. so small it doesn't have its own grounds.
that's why there are no normal PE lessons - we go to a swimming pool on
tuesdays and thursdays and have lessons at school afterwards.

today after the pool i was just going with a mate to this bloody school of
mine. (i had a huge*terrible*dreadful*scary*massive history test to write)
the easiest way to get to the school is by tube. therefore we headed in the
direction of an underground station.

suddenly, a police van stopped us. there were 2 policemen inside; probably
bored sick on this rainy thursday morning. one of them asked us where we
were going. 2 girls heading to a tube station at 9 a.m. must have seemed
highly suspicious to him, because he wanted to see our documents. we then
were accused of a) running away from home  or b) skipping school. talk about
nonsense. we started laughing, but we still had to give him our documents.
so we just stood there (it was raining all the time), waiting for the
half-wit to transfer all the valuable data to his notebook. good thing he
let us go after he had finished!

CHRIST, that must be one of the stupidest things that have ever happened to
me.

hello. i'm ola. a dangerous criminal notified by the police; notorious for
perpetrating various atrocities such as... say... crossing the car park to
get to the tube station.

be scared.

grr.

about nicer things now.. i had a lovely dream today. quite a mental one too,
but those are best, aren't they? in that dream, robert smith out of the cure
kidnapped me on my way to school and i didn't have to write that scary
history test. he then took me to the uk and sort of disappeared. had i not
woken up, i suppose i would have been living happily ever after ;)

i will go now.

take care all.

ola




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From shewitt at xxx.uk  Thu Nov 16 16:54:22 2000
From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:54:22 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Post-Baxendale, Lumberjack Riots, Too Close to Call
Message-ID: <3A14113E.EFDF127E@ruskin.ac.uk>

Hey there babies

I'm safely returned from the big apple, having had a simply wunnerful
time.  Meg and I were super-touristy, we went to the empire state
building, the statue of liberty, museum of modern art, radio city music
hall, central park, bloomingdales, macys and, of course, other music
where we pushed our way through the heaving crowds of lumberjacks to
gaze in awe at the picture of a certain foxglove which adorned the wall
(is this the coolest man in poetry?)  Contrary to other reports the
picture *is* still there, so i suggest all sinisterines on the east
coast of america book their pilgrimages now.

We also has the priviledge of visiting the Fez club where we witnessed
possibly the first post-baxendale band called the plantains, who despite
singing in an english accent about the jubilee line and the millennium
dome were actually american... crazy world.

But now i'm back in dear old blighty, working my arse off at the moment
(apart from tuesday when i went to a conference (and delivered a
penguin)), and toying with the idea of going out and getting horribly
pished and dancing with styoodents or just going to bed as i am rather
tired.

Remember there's still time to bid in the auction, unless you want
richard or mick, hands off they're MINE, i'm planning a boozy weekend in
glasgow you see, curry with mick on the friday, snooker with richard on
the saturday (and if i had stuart to drive me about it would be even
better, but he's getting a bit pricey)

i would also like to take this opportunity to say thank you very much to
the noo yoikians who showed us around and took us for drinks and food
and stuff, even though i think that there is only one of them currently
active on the list...I'd be better off going and changing the topic in
#sinister to "steve says thanks"  Inevitably there will be photos of the
trip at some point...

I know it's possibly a bit early for this, but is anyone else thinking
of going to All Tomorrows Parties in April, apparently tickets are on
sale now, so we might get like chalet 103 and only have to walk about 20
yards to the pub if we book soon...

MMMM, HELLO GHD GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK (hello big stu too)

xoxo
CarsmileSteve

ps i have a drew t-shirt and you don't, so ner!
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From megatherion5 at xxx.com  Thu Nov 16 16:44:09 2000
From: megatherion5 at xxx.com (Jason McKinnon)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:44:09 -0700
Subject: Sinister: je recuse
In-Reply-To: <3A13FB9E.941E697D@rcn.com>
Message-ID: <B6395CE3.5F7%megatherion5@hotmail.com>

Although this is way beyond the point I was making as I was taking poetic
license (and language is so subjective really.)

(sounds of meaningful throat-clearing in the background)

So here's the full lyrics to the two verses:

"Well Billy rapped all night about his suicide
How he kick it in the head when he was twenty-five
Speed jive don't want to stay alive
When you're twenty-five
And Wendy's stealing clothes from Marks and Sparks
And Freedy's got spots from ripping off the stars from his face
Funky little boat race
Television man is crazy saying we're juvenile delinquent wrecks
Oh man I need TV when I got T Rex
Oh brother you guessed
I'm a dude dad


Now Lucy looks sweet cause he dresses like a queen
But he can kick like a mule it's a real mean team
But we can love oh yes we can love
And my brother's back at home with his Beatles and his Stones
We never got it off on that revolution stuff
What a drag too many snags
Now I've drunk a lot of wine and I'm feeling fine
Got to race some cat to bed
Oh is there concrete all around
Or is it in my head
Yeah
I'm a dude dad"

Actually quite nice....those glamour boys really had glittery pathos down to
an art.

The Prince of Pickles is, by nature,  fallible.

Thus his sour disposition and his salty air.   ;)

Jason

P.S.  A warning for all you bay area Sinistraads:  The Delgados are playing
in San Francisco tomorrow at Bottom of the Hill. With Radar Bros. opening
up.  (yeah!!!!)






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From Macarthur at xxx.com  Thu Nov 16 14:11:52 2000
From: Macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:11:52 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Spice up your wife
References: <F149VXLuSbh29cM3ory00000307@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <000901c04ff9$7ce1d5c0$6d4a01d5@com>

Dear List,

> No, Love is a knife with which we explore ourselves.

Love is a knife which cuts both ways?

My heart did backflips yesterday - Hussein Chalayan's showing something
(probably tiny) in London at the Fig Gallery next week
http://www.fig-1.com
He's the man that helps bjork look amazing on some of her album covers and
makes dresses which double up as chairs.

> But a song representing success? I'm lost. Maybe I should just  > bring in
Eye Of The Tiger for the class.

What about Dusty's 'You don't have to say you love me?'. It's a very BIG
song, isn't it. Or 'Spice up your life' by the Spice Girls. That was their
most expensive video. Are we equating success with money? I'm guessing
either of those will be less embarassing than unleashing the drag- erm,
Tiger.

Now, because occasionally I'm willing to drop the icy facade, I thought I'd
ask if anyone else remembers the cartoon Ivor the Engine? I was up at 6am
last Saturday and discovered they're re-running the series on Channel Four
after Seasame Street. Miss Porty, now, there was a real woman
http://www.smallfilms.co.uk/ivor/

For PF

The betsy trotwood
is made of wood
go there if you feel
mis-under-stood

Erica
x




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From athenaofme at xxx.com  Thu Nov 16 19:46:56 2000
From: athenaofme at xxx.com (lisa morrison)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:46:56 GMT
Subject: Sinister: the right to bare arms
Message-ID: <F135LoU2gOHpM2yqOX900000ea0@hotmail.com>

naked. and photographed.
and i don't mind it that way. something about the endeavors of photography 
that excuse nakedness and twisting seductive at hips. an art i have 
mastered...draping bodies like a velvet curtains off bed edges...warm flesh 
against cold wall...i recommend that all sinister kids try it.it's like 
drinking martinis...the first sip is hard to swallow...but by the 15th yr 
chugging that fire like its water...

bad analogy...i cringe and shrug...so im a bad writer...at least im 
conscious of that fact. the sin factors in when those bad writers think 
they're good ones. at least i can claim i'm not a sinner (in that respect 
anyway).

illeged photos being shipped off to a more thn lucky sinister kid...
lip biting and whip cracking direct towards this luckster...though i am 
fully aware i am in danger of appearing on the sinister body parts 
page...see new one and know its the ideal lisa...shit. just gave it
away. was supposed to be secret, no?...and i shrug for the second time this 
post...can't keep secrets anyway. blame it on that big red mouth of 
mine...it has a mind of its own like most of my bod...arms think
stretch...neck thinks roll...fingers think scratch...toes think curl...
kat-like.
and back arched ideal...
-lisa

                                     meow.claw.claw.





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From theamazingyellowsneakers at xxx.uk  Fri Nov 17 00:30:05 2000
From: theamazingyellowsneakers at xxx.uk (Alex Jackson)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 00:30:05 -0000
Subject: Sinister: I'm the fastest man alive
Message-ID: <007201c0502d$8eb5bf80$efbb98ac@mrspeel>

I've not written in ages. Sorry!
Has everyone else been very much shocked by the treatment of poor wee
Jenowl? I noticed a few comments about it, but I thought it was really
awful. The hard kids in my school always had a go at me, but my friend was
way harder than they were, and threatened to do bad things to them with his
cricket bat if they beat me up.
I reckon we should all form a sinister militia and go sort out the obviously
satanic forces that are working against her.
Have been listening to the Y2K song by looper a lot recently, which probably
had loads to do with my java project; I keep wishing it would crash, but my
Dad's bought a new computer with an Athlon chip in it, and Windows ME, which
hasn't crashed once yet and it's been in the house for almost five days! I
mean, it looks like Windows... This computers so fast compared to the last
one, which was learning to redefine the term 'sack of shit'. I highly
recommend the Athlon for sir and madam.
Was talking to a girl on my course the other day, and she said that 13 was
her lucky number, which took me by surprise, as it's mine too. This may seem
trite and a little trendy, but I was born on the 13th, as was my dad and my
aunt and my grandfather, and my parents were married 13 years before I
turned up, my mum was in labour 13 hours with me, and they kept me in
hospital for 13 days after. Oh, and I passed my driving test, the fifth time
I did it, on the 13th. Bloody glad I'm not called Damien... Anyhow, the
whole point to this (there is one), is that I decided to make up a
compilation of 13 songs that mean something to me for some reason, or
another. And I thought I'd share my lack of taste with you (Although Will
Smith is notable by his absence on this one)...
1. Angel Interceptor by Ash
2. All I wanna Do by Sheryl Crow
3. Fake Plastic Trees by Radiohead
4. Playground Love by Air
5. Dylan in the movies (natch)
6. Vow by Garbage
7. Disco 2000 by Pulp
8. When the lights go out all over Europe by the Divine Comedy
9. For tomorrow by Blur
10. Baker Baker by Tori Amos
11. Luna by the Smashing Pumpkins
12. Glory Box by Portishead
13. He's on the phone by Saint Etienne

I was a little upset about putting the Tori song on; I always meant to get
my ex to play it on her piano for me. :(  And its still not as good a
compilation as the one Amy Jackson made me (bless her!).
anyhow, enough bollox from me. You probably could have erased this one to
begin with... Finally got into Kid A though. And the Gentle Waves album is
lovely; fabulous late night music; I made my sandwiches and rank my Baileys
to it last night. Also go the Blur DVD; the To the end video is AMAZING!!!
Sorry to bother, all the best,
Alex Jackson


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From ourpeppermintscene at xxx.com  Fri Nov 17 02:37:36 2000
From: ourpeppermintscene at xxx.com (keith mclachlan)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 18:37:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: the wreck of the ella fitzgerald
Message-ID: <20001117023736.16521.qmail@web2302.mail.yahoo.com>

yes by the title of my post it is obvious that at last
my copy of sex clark five's 'crimson panzer' has
arrived, sigh, so magnificent.  how could something
this marvelous have been born in alabama?  am i wrong
to think that skynryd is archetypal alabaman fare? 
are there any alabamans on the list?  john peel played
nearly the whole sc5 record a few months or actually
many months back and i didn't actually hear it but i
saw it on a playlist and of course tht was the first i
knew of a new record and the beginning of my quest. 
and then last evening after listening four times in
succession the evening before i settled in for the
napoleon documentary and thought of all of the history
lessons in sex clark five(the new album has loads) and
i thought of the limits of cleverness in a pop star,
the maximum amount of clever you are allowed to have
before you are too clever to be famous.  maybe a pop
scientist will devote a dissertation to this subject.

pitchfork reviewed the gentle waves album and
predictably trashed it, i laugh at their claim to
professionalism.  i am anxiously awaiting their best
of the year list with nonrepentant bores like shellac,
modest mouse and radiohead riding high.  steve albini
is quoted on the vh-1 special on hard rock saying good
things about king crimson(is this arch?).  my
girlfriend has the gentle waves record but i have yet
to hear it, i quite liked the first one, loads better
than those looper grebos.  

someone forwarded me a distressing bit of spam about
america having its constitution revoked and the return
on monarchial rule over the former colonies and it was
terribly smug and derisive and shallow and off
putting.  apparently not knowing the difference 
between an australian accent and english accent is
reason for death or something near to that.  it is
always a surprise to me how a country once in
america's current global role has developed a severe
case of short term memory.  anyhow.

didn't william daly once have a full head of hair? 
has he been undergoing chemotherapy in between trying
to get out the vote in cemeteries all over palm beach
county?    


davey butler for secretary of state.  the new girl sc5
singer is fab too.  and april 10th is the date for the
new of montreal record:)  my dream tour is sc5 and of
montreal.  why do all of the cool bands go to london
instead of denver, colorado?  we have lovely views you
know.  

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From vilkas at xxx.com  Fri Nov 17 04:13:58 2000
From: vilkas at xxx.com (Vilkas D'Angelo-Horvath)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 00:13:58 -0400
Subject: Sinister: New York City: Any of you there?
Message-ID: <200011170506.AAA00198@smtp6.mindspring.com>

Hello Kids, 
    This is Vilkas. I don't post so often. But for various reasons (like
friends and family) I'm gonna be in New York...tomorrow.  So why I'm telling
you this is cos I'm asking for the scoop on entertainment from any of yous
who are in NYC.  Specifically dancing.  
    I know they're a zillion of places to dance, but I just came from
Glasgow, the club capitol of Europe, which means my dancing preference niche
was extensibly catered for. I've been spoiled. Are there any places to go
dancing to "indie rock" etc.;  or soul music like Northern Soul (like Mr.
Divine, or that guy from some indie band DJs the stuff too).  Techno/house
too, provided it doesn't suck, you know the GOOD stuff. No dance remixes of
Celine Dion. Fatboy Slim is nice to do work by, but...I've had my fill of
chart hits dancing. Breakbeat & Hip-Hop are fab too. Also, places where
sneakers are allowed. (You know, clean, fasionable, hip sneakers. Don't
think I'm trying to get out of dressing fly. Dressing fly is often fun. 
However dancing in other shoes is foolish. But try telling that to the
doorman/a**hole). Am I asking too much?
    Any must see art shows up? Any music shows? I know about the Delgados,
they're half the reason for the trip. And if you know if they're sold out,
do you have an extra ticket? :)!
            Thanks in advance, Vilkas


P.S. My travel email, remove the nospams, um duh:
loulouhex at nospam.hotmail.nospam.com 
P.S. My mobile phone # 1(804)306-7763
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From miss_disco at xxx.com  Fri Nov 17 07:18:11 2000
From: miss_disco at xxx.com (Catherine Insch)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:18:11 GMT
Subject: Sinister: jeepers kreepers is dying here in brisbane..and it's raining...
Message-ID: <F196K8r6beUzmRf6Ci6000002e3@hotmail.com>

hello,

I don't know where to begin, so....
I'm writing for help, I need lots of it...
I've started a zine called jeepers kreepers,
the frist issue was good,....but the 2nd is moving very slowly..
I need lots of people in on it.. so if you like writing(anything)
poems to reveiws... please send me some letters of interest...to
miss_disco at hotmail.com
the second issue already has interveiws from Australian bands (where I live) 
but I also need as much international stuff as I can get...
so please don't be shy... help my poor zine stay alive down here in oz,.. 
thanks from catherine...
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From pcxas at xxx.uk  Fri Nov 17 11:42:55 2000
From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:42:55 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: if time-space is an spiral, and perms are back ...
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0011161712290.16474-100000@granby.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>


BigStu came back from down under and said :

'Hefner aren't Scottish'.

But they were FUN. As sex on the floor,and high heel mules and Sussex
cream teas. Well, I am afraid the grandness of crema teas is to blame for
not having done my homework back in 1999 and missed Sodastream, for which
I cannot apreciate and nod along with the Masters in their own
grandness.

On my first encounter with Darren H., however, I behaved pretty
badly,pretty Hefnerish.And don't think about frolicking on carpets this
time,my smutty ones.More about adopting a sulky expression and crossing my
arms in a very annoying, given its accuracy,impersonation of those 1D
heroines who usually adorn their covers, minus the extra-long sexy
limbs.The consequences were even more Hefnerish,think
about whatever you want now.Oh,I might have adopted my moods only to live
a song.Indie girl once, always an indie girl.

>From one to two (D's, and not about bras) ,

the very own Ms Mc Arthur came back from her Charts exile and said :

'I think in 2-D, and so the only thing that could wear the damn thing
could be a cardboard cut-out of myself. I might make one'.

Blimey.I would be so lucky if 3D were repealed.Giving up an A-level in
Design seemed to be the definitive solution to the real,solid world,but
alas, nine years later,it seems that ultraempowered multimedia x-y-z
backlash is unescapable and any path into the next future crosses it,as
well as facing the frightening universe of sleek dressed geeks talking
warmly and endlessly about their Indigo Macs as old ladies in Middle
England do about their gardenias.I'd rather choose a career in vintage
simulation,that is, going back to homemade cut-outs.

'If you are not jumping,you are a Belle and Sebastian
fan'...Darren,c'mon.


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From shiplore at xxx.com  Fri Nov 17 15:21:35 2000
From: shiplore at xxx.com (Jeff Burke)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:21:35 EST
Subject: Sinister: the wreck of the ella fitzgerald
Message-ID: <F296yabYTHrdusluCBc000006f0@hotmail.com>

Hey sini-brothers and sinisisters.
how goes the fight.

Anyone in the US will agree that we're inundated with jokes about Florida, 
the election and the presidency..

ah. Hurm. If only I could work in europe.

any one wanna let me borrow 1.749 million dollars?

E-bay is auctioning off an Scottish estate, it *is* in aberdeenshire so I 
think that's why the asking price is so low :)

just kiddin'......kinda.


I've never been able to decipher who my list crush was. Ah well. that's 
okay. I appreciate the vote of confidence as it is.

Hmmm.. B&S content.
I listened to FYHCYWLAP yesterday, twice. that's about all I've got. Sadly I 
don't have classes with chris or share pints with stuart..

I had to respond to
keith mclachlan who said:
>
>pitchfork reviewed the gentle waves album and
>predictably trashed it, i laugh at their claim to
>professionalism.

They don't really claim to be professional. They write about what they want. 
Their claims of professionality stem from the fact that a bunch of 
20-something slackers run the site, don't get paid but have the new update 
everyday. Be nice. They're very nice people.


i am anxiously awaiting their best
>of the year list with nonrepentant bores like shellac,
>modest mouse and radiohead riding high.


I just can't let this go. Modest Mouse is one of the most interesting and 
intelligent bands to come round in a long time. (I don't think any fan of 
B&S has the right to call ANY band boring I mean I love them cause they're 
beautiful and witty but they're pretty slow and unexciting)And Shellac 
flat-out rock. it's nice to turn up your speakers once in a while and when 
you do it's good to have a band that's as talented as Shellac rockin' out 
rather then having to listen to Staind or Korn, for years i wouldn't rock 
out cause I didn't like those ignorant bands.. then I found the Archers of 
Loaf, Seam, Shellac, Unwound, loud doesn't always = bad.  Again it helps 
with Shellac that they're smarty pants too...
and I wouldn't be so quick to take the piss out of radiohead. how many bands 
do you know that have sold millions and millions of records have then put 
out a record like KidA. It's boring yeah, but it's very noncommercial and 
certainly not what a large majority of their "fans" would expect or want....
Now if you meant to say boors when then I wouldn't argue too too much.


:)

but really that's the best part about music it's all so subjective!

ah.

pleasant day to everyone.
jb
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From mark_e_hester at xxx.com  Fri Nov 17 17:28:56 2000
From: mark_e_hester at xxx.com (Mark Hester)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:28:56 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Howling Christmas
Message-ID: <F154Dt9Cz93MgPPf3L900000b2c@hotmail.com>

"Christmas comes earlier each year" whingers are a perennial hazard.  You 
know the type - people who insist that it is obscene that the deccies in the 
shops appear in early or mid-November and maintain that they can remember 
when it Didn't Used To Happen.  Get real!  It's happened for as long as I 
can remember and probably a lot longer than that.

This is of course completely different from the wholesome practice of 
students having two Christmases, at the end of term and the conventional 
time, or indeed the tinsel and Christmas tress adorning the stage at the 
Spearmint gig last night.  It was quite touching, with a bank of fairy 
lights as a backdrop to add that touch of glam.  Somebody proceeded to 
scatter polystyrene snow from a polystyrene cup over each band member in 
turn.  Little did I imagine when my dumbstruck department was transfixed by 
the giant hailstones falling over Harcourt Hill that morning that it was 
merely a precursor of yet stranger precipitation.

Shirley didn�t merely address the audience, at one point he was *in* the 
audience, walking up to people and singing to them in turn, which was nice.  
And the songs...."We�re Going Out", "Oklahoma", "You are Still my Brother".  
Amazing.

Have you noticed how people are casting the net a little wider when 
selecting where to go for the work Christmas bash?  We, for example, are 
going to a Thai restaurant.  It's encouraging to see people who normally 
whine "How about something *different* from the *same old* turkey this 
year?!"  actually doing something about it.  So now we'll see the "Christmas 
comes earlier each year" brigade rampaging through our department stores, 
trashing tinsel and pummelling the cloned Santas.  Maybe.

Looking forward to Sodastream tomorrow....

Mark.

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From megatherion5 at xxx.com  Fri Nov 17 17:09:34 2000
From: megatherion5 at xxx.com (Jason McKinnon)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:09:34 -0700
Subject: Sinister: the wreck of the ella fitzgerald
In-Reply-To: <20001117023736.16521.qmail@web2302.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B63AB457.61C%megatherion5@hotmail.com>

Keith M. said:

> yes by the title of my post it is obvious that at last
> my copy of sex clark five's 'crimson panzer' has
> arrived, sigh, so magnificent.  how could something
> this marvelous have been born in alabama?  am i wrong
> to think that skynryd is archetypal alabaman fare?
> are there any alabamans on the list?

And, of course, as the only Alabamian  on Sinister, I have to set the record
straight (once and for all?).

Lynard Skynard is NOT from Alabama. The band is from Florida.

Here are some bands who actually are from Alabama:

1) The Commodores (including Lionel Richie)
2) Remy Zero
3)Verbena
4)The Woggles
5)The QuadraJets
6) Man Or Astroman?
7)Pain!

And not to mention that the famed Elephant 6 collective is mere miles away
from the Alabama border. I'm know for a fact that some members of that scene
are Alabamian too.

When I was growing up, the scene was all about psychedelic garage and indie
pop.  I saw Tiger Trap play there when I was 17. I helped them carry their
equipment in the house when they were playing tripping on acid.

I saw Man or Astroman? so many times in high school and college. The most
memorable was in a bowling alley between Opelika and Auburn. They could
barely play at that point, but it was all in good fun.

Let me just say that I know there are a lot of awful things about the
South, but let me ALSO say that music isn't one of them. In fact, at the
risk of sounding a little provincial, I think that most modern music
wouldn't exist at all without southern influence.

That being said. I don't live there anymore, because I couldn't take the
constant societal pressure to lie and smile. But, you know, it's that same
societal pressure that creates a breeding ground for creative and powerful
art and music.

Jason
ThePicklePrince

PS. Seeing Elf Power the other day made me realize what I did like about the
Southern Indie  Scene. No ineffectual sniveling and back-biting.  Just good,
open-minded folks.





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From JENOWL22 at xxx.com  Fri Nov 17 18:51:44 2000
From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:51:44 EST
Subject: Sinister: Toodle pip
Message-ID: <8f.318262b.2746d840@aol.com>

Hewwo,

Hey, d'you remember when that boy threw the stone at my head and I was 
unconscious and everyone said 'oh that's a shame'?

Well, this is funny. In an ironic sort of way. He sent me a sorry card and 
chocolates. How odd is that? He got one of my teachers to give me them, and 
the card was very pretty and it said sorry that he was mean to me all the 
time and he wouldn't ever be like that and my friend ate all the chocolates. 
But I think his mum must have made him. But it was very nice still, though I 
was really embarassed. Would this be a hard kid breakthrough?

Is anyone going to the Gentle Waves gig in Glasgow on Sunday? I'm sorry if 
someone said that they were because I missed it. So please e mail me if you 
are. Because I might be if I'm not all on my own.

I have a date on Saturday. With a girl called Gillian. But I've never had a 
date with a girl before and I've never had that many dates so I'm very 
worried and nervous. My friends are very pleased for me, except the ones I 
kiss sometimes, because she has big breasts, but I'm just worried that she 
won't show up, because I'm not actually sure why she wants to be going on a 
date with me, since she is very pretty and cool and ace and I'm not. When you 
go on a date where there's two girls, who pays? And do you hold hands even if 
people are going to yell "eww you're disgusting you're going to hell for 
being faggots" at you? And which is going to be the one that tells the other 
one that they look pretty even if they don't, and hold the doors open? It's 
all so confusing, my head is spinning. And I don't know what to wear. She's a 
greenday fan, she might laugh at me.

I think Poupee De Cire should be the next b&s single. Because it is grate.

I spent all of yesterday walking around with an "I am gay" sticker stuck to 
my back. I didn't know about it and no one told me or I'd have taken it off. 
The pen colour didn't go with my duffel coat :)

Hugs,
Jen






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From strappingarab at xxx.com  Fri Nov 17 19:29:00 2000
From: strappingarab at xxx.com (robert smith)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:29:00 PST
Subject: Sinister: back in to the folded hands
Message-ID: <F206okSUIwMw8lODASt00000cdb@hotmail.com>


Hello boys & girls,

this is to rather announce some sort of return by me from lurker land (how 
vogue of me). i'm not very many of you have noticed that i've been gone but 
don't feel bad it just tempory memory loss, because as keith so kindly 
rminded us, we brits have such frightfully sort memories.... but you jolly 
foreigners have no excuse....

so then reasons for being away, everything has been pretty ghastly of late 
but i wont tell you all about them because i'm scared of being called a 
whinger. and i'm sure that reaally i have no right to waste your time by 
making your shoulders wet. just suffice to say i was drinking and smoking 
far to much to safely use a keyboard.

however, every cloud has a pot of gold. or something like that and things 
seem far more tolerable now. :D

*obligatory bit saying 'B+S content'*

today at uni we had what could be the most unorganised fire drill i have 
ever seen. three students nearly burned to death and there wasn't even a 
real fire. anyway, the whole time i was listening to lazyline painter jane 
but i couldn't help thinking 'you will have a fire tonight'.
i hope its not an omen......

I DON'T BELIEVE IN OMEN'S!

i'm going to sodastream tomorrow so i shall be officially back in 
circulation. beware*......

anyway TTFN
robert 'not drunk honest officer' smith

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From athenaofme at xxx.com  Sat Nov 18 17:16:13 2000
From: athenaofme at xxx.com (lisa morrison)
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 17:16:13 GMT
Subject: Sinister: rin-tin-tin and a bottle of gin
Message-ID: <F9YAPNXRPmcarcR4ZDg00000755@hotmail.com>

under the covers speaking to a sinister friend who
commented on my being the "dominatrix of the list"
and i'm always on cue...cracked my whip just then and adjusted my
garters...hitched my thigh-highs, tossed jet black hair back
and lip-bit for a brief pose...then its back to more
hot wax and dungeon chainings...
pardon me please for living up to my self appointed status.
but i will remain on pedestal until someone knocks me down...
like gladiators but with porn stars instead of body builders...

someone (name escapes me) composed a freestylin' ditty...
and we all know lisa and her ditty-ing about...chance to hog the
mic and move my hips like a playground swing...the kind parents tell
their children not to play on b/c it seems to be twisting about
and perhaps a little loose around its bearings...
so i set one foot on stage all red maryjaned...and spot-light on
me...i don't even squint...:
when i was two my mother nursed me on gin and tonic
that's why i smoke chronic and call myself
"quadrophonic"
i breakdance with in my hotpants
and do the disco fever
then i rush on home to....
                        watch ...leave it to beaver...(???)

yeah so i can't freestyle but i can dance...least i've got that under
my belt and perhaps more from the looks of the crush list...
what?-and you thought i could go without mentioning it?
(pish) like me passing a mirror and not sneaking a peek...
and lisa has a wicked belt collection...shiney red today and in
rather katty fashion...so doll, you'll be the hippest of the
hip beneath my belt, have no fear...the green snakeskin is especially
hip as well...i can't help but imagine wearing a boa constrictor
about my waist although that would not nearly be as fashionable
(who said anything about practical)...

enough. leaving you once more starving for content...
and being yr i-deal...
-l.......ydia
i.......ntrapersonal
s.......ex-goddess of the western hemishpere
a.......ttache
(bring me a round of portobellas and a bottle of coors lite)
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From ourpeppermintscene at xxx.com  Sun Nov 19 00:21:39 2000
From: ourpeppermintscene at xxx.com (keith mclachlan)
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:21:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: too much mongol business
Message-ID: <20001119002139.12362.qmail@web2303.mail.yahoo.com>

i forget who said these things so i apologize now,
actually the emails were read to me over the phone by
my girlfriend to prove she really did have dsl.  
but radiohead are bores, not boars, it takes no
measure of courage to release an album as listless and
uninspired as kid a.  it does require a massive level
of arrogance though and i think thommy really believes
he is a genius, how else could he endorse the nonsense
on kid that sounds cutting edge say circa apple IIe. 
this is just my opinion sure, everyone else loves
radiohead and i accept that.  i liked fake plastic
trees, why don't they write songs anymore?  i am too
rigidly mired in the old fashion world i suppose.  and
modest mouse and shellac bring to mind this strange
american(me being an american and all) compulsion to
consider anything that doesn't 'rawk' as boring when
in fact it is usually the opposite.  music for my ears
speaks louder when you are not being clubbed over the
head, besides modest mouse do not rock they are the
grimiest, sludgiest, most slowfooted band ever created
and where is the wit?  it isn't there.  shellac/big
black are too smart for me because i don't get them
either.
sorry for clogging up the list with this, but then
dialogue should be encouraged i think.  i sorta think
my tastes are so far divergent from everyone else on
the list based on the content of a lot of the posts. 
but i could be wrong.  of course, i bet if i said bad
things about tom waits i would see a counter right
away, so i will not.  
if pitchfork don't get paid why do they charge 300
dollars a month for their ads?  for charity?  i am
sure they get records sent to them free of charge.  
there is very little variety among the reviewer's
tastes and i think i'd like to see them use people who
have more specialized tastes rather than the generic
'indie rawk' tag and allow them to flex their muscles
in their respective fields.  
last year at this time i was going to go to kansas
city to see the lucksmiths and this year detroit and
outrageous cherry? blah.  

oh and i think the ice age is over.

keith m

also, sorry for saying skynyrd were from alabama must
be that 'sweet home alabama' thing.  elf power are
nearly as dreadful though, and nearly alabaman as you
say.  

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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Sun Nov 19 03:44:23 2000
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 03:44:23 +0000
Subject: Sinister: snog on eels
Message-ID: <200011190340.DAA09067@missprint.org>

Hello,

It has been a hectic week, been doing all sorts of stuff including 
(yippie) seeing Hefner again on Tuesday and dancing all night, (yippie) 
going to Offbeat and dance all night and (boo) got told off by my 
supervisor for doing no work and worked all night.

I have just had the most horrific dream about being in a car crash, 
and the worse part was I didn't die or get injured, but I got an 
endless telling off by the other driver who happened to be my 
lecturer, and that's before I had to tell my parents about it.  
Scary.  Scarred for life now.  

Even more scary, are that when you know a girl who you really like, 
and you just want to love them and love them but you love her so 
much that you get so scared of telling her in fear of her never 
speaking to you again.  What is a boy to do, it's taken me a few 
years now, with many different subjects of affection, to figure it 
out, I haven't figured it out.

I think I have figured out that some of the songs on Kid A are 
actually quite good, there are some pants ones but a few of them 
are superb.  Like optimistic and motion picture soundtrack and 
idioteque which are like, grate.  I do think though that a song 
is not boring because it's fast/slow/rock/punk/folk/pop, it's how 
much thought, effort and genius that has been put into it, but then 
I know John Shit's brother Jack so I should shut it.

And yeah (as Arantxa said) everyone at the gig got accused of being 
Belle and Sebastian fans by Darren of Hefner.. first I thought, 
"oi", and then I thought, "oh yeah I am", then I laughed a little.

I laughed even more, when I listened to the mp3 of "paper boat" 
downloaded from David White's page, and at the start, there is this 
bloke which for some reason says "Are you done with your toilet 
though?" in a French accent before the song starts!  Hehe.  I 
thought it was really amusing anyway.. :)

Soft pillows and Red Bulls
Ken
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From samwaltonyeah at xxx.com  Sun Nov 19 11:28:26 2000
From: samwaltonyeah at xxx.com (Sam Walton)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:28:26 GMT
Subject: Sinister: The End Of The World As We Know It
Message-ID: <F65aTzvb5YI9IJsaJbq00002027@hotmail.com>

Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls,

So this is it, give or take a couple of lines: In less than 30 hours, I�ll 
be winging my way to a ski-resort in France until May, so I�m unsubbing for 
the time being.

This goes out to Nick Drake, Stuart David and Erica McArthur, wherever you 
may all be today. A few thank yous before we go.

To all the doubters and critics too numerous to mention; thank you.

To all the people past and present who have touched my life on Sinister: 
Nessa �don�t call me Bugsy� Malone, Elenita99, Derek, Splash, JenOwl, Jo 
Reynolds, F-B, Kaytee, Jules Markham, Ken PY Chu, G from York; thank you.

To all the people who have kept this list on it feet in recent memory, doing 
whatever it is you do; thank you.

To Thom Yorke, Stuart David, Steven Wells, Hefner, The Gentle Waves and 
countless others for providing so much writing inspiration, I salute you; 
thank you.

To someone who has been here as often as me more or less: you can count the 
digests he�s missed on the fingers of one stump, a friend to the victims, a 
friend to me, and hey, a friend to you, Honey; thank you.

Oh what the hell, there�s no show without Punch. Raise your glasses, Belle & 
Sebastian; thank you.

And finally, thanks to everyone of you for all the banter which I didn�t 
quite understand, for reading my posts occasionally and for being into it. 
Nice one. Keep this going, because I�ll be back in May to wreak havoc once 
more. Unless of course you can�t be arsed with it, which is fair enough, in 
which case I�ll say goodbye now. I�ll see you around, space cadets.

Ten months and fourteen posts, I think I got away with it. I was on 
Sinister, now I�m not. It was fab. I know, cos I was there.

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From JENOWL22 at xxx.com  Sun Nov 19 17:26:38 2000
From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:26:38 EST
Subject: Sinister: The greedy ugly people are not like us...they're a bit like my date though 
Message-ID: <69.d2fdbf9.2749674e@aol.com>

Hewwo,

As you can tell from my subject line, my date didn't go very well. She 
decided that we weren't going to the pictures after all. So we went to a 
coffee shop, after walking around for a bit, and she asked me what music I 
like and I said "Belle and Sebastian" and she said it wasn't going to work 
out because she can't speak to anyone who isn't a rocker, and she said that I 
was a witch, and that I would have been burnt 500 years ago, and that I was 
too accomodating and I had no personality, and that I was a goth and a freak 
(because I was drinking herbal tea) and she didn't like my star on my cheek. 
And then she said "This hasn't been very good", and I said "No. No, it 
hasn't". And we sat in silence for a bit. And then I grabbed my bag and ran 
for it. Literally.

But I didn't mean the part about her being greedy and ugly. She wasn't 
greedy, and she wasn;t ugly at all. But I was listening to that song when I 
was starting out the post.

Today i decided I was going to go on one of my adventures. I decided to go 
into the forest and make friends with the trees. I saw lots of beer cans 
littered about, which made me sad, because the forest is a sacred place, 
where the neds should have respect for the trees. But I did meet some nice 
trees. You know when you say hi to a tree, and talk to it for a bit, then 
just stand there, and you get a warm fuzzy burst of energy all through you, 
and it makes your fingertips tingle? That's a tree way of saying hi back. 
Trees have souls. They're much nicer than humans. You shouldn't ever break a 
branch off a tree, or climb it without asking it first. It'll always let you 
but it's polite to ask. And if you hurt a tree you should always say sorry to 
it. Or it might be sad. Because trees are magical.

I think that the next time I go to talk to trees, I will bring my walkman 
with B&S in it. So that the trees can listen.

Now everyone on sinister thinks I'm insane because I think trees can feel.

Oh well...

Hugs,
Jen






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From little_miss_pixie at xxx.com  Mon Nov 20 11:21:41 2000
From: little_miss_pixie at xxx.com (superfurrygrrrrl .)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:21:41 GMT
Subject: Sinister: f*** love forever!!
Message-ID: <F108B4nbO0AWzcMqZzV000028a3@hotmail.com>

howlo sinister people

thank you very much i had a lovely morning reading all the posts gathered up 
over the weekend :) i laughed out loud at the closing lines of jenowls first 
post
'The pen colour didn't go with my duffel coat :)'

*sprays tea everywhere, or would have if she was drinking any*

then i think the people in the computer lab thought i was possessed, so its 
just as well i didnt cry at her next one.... aaaawww jen!! what did you do 
to deserve that?? its a crying shame, so it is. :(

on the subject of kid a being uninspiring and boring, i cant really think of 
a rational argument because its all a matter of taste, so im just going to 
growl at you all like the furry animal i am. ahem..

grgrrrrgrrrrrrrrrrrr*snort*grrrrrrrrrrrr*snort*grrrrrrrrrrrgrrrrrr*snort*grrrrrrrrgrrr..etc 
etc

*the world of sinister cowers in utter fear*

so yeah, im supposed to have a 1500 word essay handed in today, by 3pm. and 
having not started it, or read the story, or even the question, 
(ohmygodithinkileftthequestionathome...!!!.."�$�$^&&*&&*()_!!!) i thought i 
d rush straight into uni but then of course i couldnt resist that shining 
internet icon beckoning my cursor to come closer and DOH here i am, two 
hours later.

*content*

i put 'legal man' and 'string bean jean' on a compilation tape to attempt to 
intice a nu-punk-rocker friend into the arms of mr murdoch and co the other 
day. don't you just get really frustrated when trying to think of the best 
belle and seb song to put on a tape?? THEY'RE ALL SO DAMN GOOD!! im still 
not sure if i made a good choice. ah, its the simple things occupy my head!!

my most favourite female musician of all time is megan childs. i hope that 
dosent mean i have to indure a stoning in george square. did they ever stone 
people in george square?? in fact have they ever stoned people full stop, or 
was i just taking 'the life of brian' as gospel?? boo-doom tsh.

anyway though arent her violin solos just lovely?? especially the one near 
the end of 'she lives on a mountain' where euros goes 'so beautiful to see' 
and then in she comes with those heart reaching sliding notes(dearie me what 
an awfull description)...or the mid-8 type thingy on 'over and out'. i feel 
like doing a top 14 now, because thats my birthdate. but i cant really be 
bothered. oh well.

congratualations to pamela on  list crush  success :) its strange because i 
already knew not one or two but four people that are on the top ten crushees 
of all time before i joined sinister. well i thought it was :s

ive now got 4 hours to do THAT essay. how soul destroying. i want to leave 
uni but theres nothing out there i want to do , exept become a member of b 
and s of course which, i must admit, its just a TAD unrealistic!! *sigh* i 
suppose ill just sit here and wait for a sign.

GOD! SHOW ME MAGIC!!

apparently gruff expects god to strike the stage with a bolt of lightening 
when they do that song, and i say 'is the miracle of the furry animal not 
enough??'


okay so, i must go, i hope some of you can try and channel some motivation 
my way. its the only hope ive got. amy jackson could maybe do with some too, 
but im sure shes miles ahead of me already!!

yours about to do some serious reading,
sarah xxxx
p:s i believe theres a 'mwng' on here?? *waves to other furries-devote*!



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From ola1212 at xxx.pl  Mon Nov 20 14:46:47 2000
From: ola1212 at xxx.pl (Ola Szkudlapska)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:46:47 +0100
Subject: Sinister: last night i dreamt that somebody loved me
Message-ID: <001001c05300$b76922c0$b5684cd5@default>

no, that wasn't last night actually. that was a few days back. last night i
dreamt i had invented an ansafaxacomputer-cum-mobile-and-printer (well, a
very modern bit of technology anyway). i was just about to patent my
brilliant invention, make huge profits, move to the uk and live happily ever
after when (damn!) i woke up. isn't it so typical?

right, hello lovely lot :)

it would seem that, after months of lurking, i've set myself a goal to
become the list's most prolific writer. but fear not. this hyperactivity of
mine is bound to wear off soon.

some headings now:

***new adventures in virus-land (Honey is my Hero :)***

grr. a few days ago honey made me realise that my computer had been infected
with a virus. luckily when i last posted his computer intercepted the
infected file and it didn't harm *your* computers. phew! i would feel so bad
otherwise. if i did pass the bloody virus in private mails to any of you,
i'm very sorry. you can kick me when we meet. ;)
for the time being, though, Honey - you're my Hero :) *hug*
/fanfares enter
/cheering and stuff :)

***heading 2***

ok, i admit, i didn't want to go to school today. i had wanted to be taken
ill or something. but *cough* a common cold would be enough! why do i get aa
annoying angina all of a sudden? grr. still i suppose that not seeing my fat
stupid polish teacher is brilliant enough to forget about the headache, sore
throat and runny nose. :)

before you start feeling pity for me, though, let me list the fine artists
visiting poland this autumn:

HIM, apocalyptica, marilyn manson, queens of the stone age, soulfly, other
metal bands + some punk bands.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh

now you may pity me. ;)

***mission possible?***

there's this nice guy olivier on the list. despite his obvious nice-ness
he's never posted! why oh why?! so this goes out to all of you - if you meet
him in the chatroom or whatever, try to convince him to finally post
something. :) or i'll die of curiosity :))


right, this mail is farr too nonsense anyway, so i'll stop here.

hugs to all of you :)

ola













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From Weingut.Hammes at xxx.de  Mon Nov 20 15:38:50 2000
From: Weingut.Hammes at xxx.de (Juergen Hammes)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:38:50 +0100
Subject: Sinister: snog on eels
References: <200011190340.DAA09067@missprint.org>
Message-ID: <13xt1u-1XfdyrC@fwd02.sul.t-online.com>

as people are going on about Radiohead, for me it was strange:
I had bought "Pablo Honey " long ago and never got anything out of it. It just 
wasn't any good to me. I could listen to Creep and then nothing.
Then I bought Kid A (because it was on special offer and I thought it could be 
funny listening to another Radiohead album I don'T understand) and I tried 
liking that one, but of course it didn'T work out, as always for me and 
Radiohead.
That's what I thought. Because after Kid A I put on P'Hun again, just to listen 
to Creep and think how I am like those people who hear "Blur" and think "song 
2", just with RAdiohead. 
And suddenly something changed with me and this band and I found out: Pablo 
Honey is a party album. Nothing goes on as cool as "Anyone can play guitar". And 
then it's cool now: I can like a Radiohead album.

But still, I haven'T got the point of Kid a. except for the last song, that one 
is okay.

Kerstin "yeah, try not to lurk, baby" H.

Jen, take it easy. Freaks and trees are supposed to be friends, that keeps our 
world sunny. People, can you tell me where you live ? Anyone here from Germany ?

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From angelfairybelle at xxx.com  Mon Nov 20 15:41:19 2000
From: angelfairybelle at xxx.com (Amy Jackson)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:41:19 GMT
Subject: Sinister: watch out there's a lurker about...
Message-ID: <F62NFmWAFsTmIClmpcQ00003120@hotmail.com>

well, not really, but i'd almost become one until i remembered i can post. 
:)

hello.
here i am again, sat in easy everything (my 2nd fav place in glasgow, next 
to my bed ;)) and all is good.  i got an extension on my english essay which 
means i ahve another week to write 1500 words on... narrative strategies and 
such.  sounds grate huh?  grr...
i shouldn't be so lazy.  i came to uni to carry on with english and run away 
form the mad bad highlands, but now that i'm at uni, there is an air of 
discontentment that follows me about.  or is that just the scent of my new 
shampoo?  i dunno, but whatever it is, it's not good. but i LOVE living in 
glasgow, it's so busy and fun and exciting and there's always something to 
do...totally different to home.  i dunno, ask me in a few weeks and i could 
tell you i love my course blah blah blah...

have been hiding in sinister chat a lot lately.  dear kennybabes and 
velocity and starfire dave etc are all so lovely to me, it's grate.  they 
even put up with my moaning about the various boys i become obsessed with 
(too many to mention) so that can only be a good thing.  i want to go and 
see "and you will know us by the trail of dead" at the end of the month, but 
it's sold out.  dammit.

i've been ill recently too.  missed the gentle waves cos i had tonsilitis so 
bad i stayed in my bed for a week!  well, it was nice and warm and stuff, 
which was good, but i was sooooo bored!  especially since my room mate Lorna 
went home all week to the wee island of benbecula... t'was very boring.  but 
she's home tomorrow!!!  yay!! so we're gonna get drunk, watch a video of out 
school christmas play from when we were 6 (we went to the same primary 
school) and then hit the union and all the poor cute arty boys inside.  oh 
yes!  thank goodness i have a day off on wednesday...

i want to get the cool christmas cd but i'm too broke.  sniff.

i'm sorry jen's date didn't go well...  there's plenty more jelly tots in 
the packet, that's what my sister says...

Speaking of my sister, we went to see Tom Jones on friday with my mam and 
boyohboy was he good!  ok ok, he's a coffin dodging geriatric old greasy hip 
swivler but he was top class AND kelly jones form the stereophonics came 
onstage (not literally you smutty people!) and sang with him, so my sister 
and i swooned a lot.  *ahem*

well, better go,
take care, be happy,
hugs,
amy xxx
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From shewitt at xxx.uk  Mon Nov 20 17:05:02 2000
From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 17:05:02 +0000
Subject: Sinister: warning: may contain rude words
Message-ID: <3A1959BE.E22E1F1A@ruskin.ac.uk>

arsebuggerpishitbolloxpooooooooooo

outbid in the last minute!!  the very last minute!! if only i had time
to sit around watching qxl all morning, i could have gotten away with it
(damn those pesky kids), and after dave moore had convinced mick i was a
nutter as well, I'll have to find another excuse for coming to glasgow
and getting drunk now :(((((((

grrrr and indeed arrrggh

so if gary rich or the other bloke whos name escapes me are out there, I
shake my fist at you, and hope you have a nice time with mick/richard.

*steve grinds his teeth

However, I still get to have a tape made for me by lawrence mickelson
(unless i was outbid for that too), so it's not all bad, although i did
lose out on the blu-tack figures...

It looks a certain noo yoikian listee is going to get to edit struan's
videos as well, lucky old her ;)

Anyway, saturday night at the betsey was grate fun, a rip roaring
success, you could say, as they were turning people away, and there
wasn't room to swing a stunted dormouse inside the venue.

xoxo
CarsmileSteve

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From declan63 at xxx.com  Mon Nov 20 17:43:31 2000
From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:43:31 -0500
Subject: Sinister: snog on eels
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Juergen Hammes" <Weingut.Hammes at xxx.de>
To: <sinister at missprint.org>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: Sinister: snog on eels


> as people are going on about Radiohead, for me it was strange:
> I had bought "Pablo Honey " long ago and never got anything out of it. It just
> wasn't any good to me. I could listen to Creep and then nothing.
> Then I bought Kid A (because it was on special offer and I thought it could be
> funny listening to another Radiohead album I don'T understand) and I tried
> liking that one, but of course it didn'T work out, as always for me and
> Radiohead.
> That's what I thought. Because after Kid A I put on P'Hun again, just to listen
> to Creep and think how I am like those people who hear "Blur" and think "song
> 2", just with RAdiohead.
> And suddenly something changed with me and this band and I found out: Pablo
> Honey is a party album. Nothing goes on as cool as "Anyone can play guitar". And
> then it's cool now: I can like a Radiohead album.

while there's no money-back guarantee on future happiness, i'd say that you've visited the thesis and antithesis.  liked a little
bit of both?  head for the synthesis.  "the bends" and "OK computer"  enjoy! (i hope)

jay

"there's no blood thicker than ink"


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From kev at xxx.uk  Mon Nov 20 17:41:59 2000
From: kev at xxx.uk (Kev)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 17:41:59 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Strategies Against Sobriety (for Dummies)
Message-ID: <005901c05319$78720500$09e893c3@oemcomputer>

Hello then.

JOE STRUMMER HAS MANKY TEETH. But you can't hold that
against him. He was in the Clash after all.

Well, it seems that my friendly GP has finally scuppered my
plans to drink until the wine actually came out of my ears.
He showed me a chart of a naked person who only had half of
his skin, and there were big arrows pointing to all the
gloopy things inside, along with helpful explanations on
exactly how they would break. he also said he wouldn't be
held responsible, which I thought was a bit off. I thought
that GPs were supposed to be very responsible.  Now the
evenings go on for aaages. What do the ordinary people do
with all this free time? I think I'll just sit here and play
with this bit of string.

Elvis Costello is a funny man isn't he? Is it just my
imagination or does he look an awful lot like Steve Wright?

The best thing about having a job is taking a day off, like
I did today. My head was all chock full of cool and
wonderful things I was going to do, but I just ended up
wandering around town in a sort of daze wondering where I
could buy a Birthday card for my brother. Apparently now
that it's November the only greetings card one can buy are
Christmas cards or cards with I AM 9 badges and a wishy
washy pic of a kid in a flat cap playing golf. Well phooey
to you Clinton Cards. Luckily, I have a backup plan - I'll
just pretend I forgot. Fiendish.

And don't even get me started on Frank Black. The Pixies
were MY IDEA you thieving POP GURU BASTARD.

Someone sent me a lovely email today and it really cheered
me up. When I see him tomorrow I'll thank him personally and
offer to buy him a coffee. So I reckon each and every one of
you should take 5 minutes to send off a quick mail to
someone you haven't spoken to for a while. Or phone your
mum. Go on, it'll make you feel better. There'll be a nation
(world?) wide Sinister Glow.

Kieth says...
>  i bet if i said bad
> things about tom waits i would see a counter right
> away, so i will not

Kev says : God bless Tom Waits :) But that doesn't mean I
want to go out for a drink with the guy, no way. I bet you
could strike matches on his palms. I still reckon he should
get his own show on Radio 4 though. Imagine - an afternoon
in contemplation with Waits. Tom discusses the spiritual and
physiological benefits of bashing the hell out of bin lids
and singing like there's a dead rat in your throat. Followed
by Gardeners Question time, where he could have a guest spot
talking about keeping chickens. It'll happen one day, you
mark my words.

Um, I'll go away now. I've got about 5 hours worth of
nothing to do. Interspersed with hoovering and
uncontrollable weeping.

Love and, well, more love really.
Kev.

ps. If anyone has read and enjoyed Ihiguro's The Unconsoled
and can recommend something along the same lines I'd be
everso grateful. Ta.

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From jono427 at xxx.net  Mon Nov 20 18:16:40 2000
From: jono427 at xxx.net (John Maxwell)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 18:16:40 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: "When he wakes up, tell him that i love him."
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From gogron at xxx.uk  Mon Nov 20 18:52:28 2000
From: gogron at xxx.uk (gogron)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 18:52:28 +0000
Subject: Sinister: do we read in chat like we're listening, or are we reading?
Message-ID: <3A1972EC.5122512B@netscapeonline.co.uk>

Hello

There is a nice drawing of a naked woman on the cover of the CD I just
bought. That's why I bought it. At £3.99, a bit steep for such slight
pleasures but, hey, I'm a connoisseur, and will go to considerable
lengths for fine artwork. The CD itself is by that woman in whatsit and
there are some familiar names playing stuff in the background. The third
song (four whole different songs!) has a tuba on it, and a clarinet.
Excellent. It's all very light and fluffy apart from the tuba bit. The
fourth song sounds like the Penguin Cafe Orchestra playing under a wooly
blanket. Nice.
Talking of nicely drawn women, I also bought the latest single by badly
drawn boy. The boy's done well.. he should win an award.

So that was the Gentle Waves, and my reason for posting. But, being all
dressed up, figuratively speaking, I don't want to go home yet so I'll
bore whoever's got this far some more.. the white glowy space in this
window is so tempting... I want to fill it with a jumble of letters.

Well, I stopped at the above before dinner, thought for a while,
furrowed my brow even.. ate orange and cream striped salmon ravioli, and
have come to a conclusion.
I'm all out of things to say.
OOps.
I'll have to go to #sinister instead, for inspiration.

Gordon

For those of you interested, under the Scottish Building Regulations,
you're allowed up to sixteen steps in a stair without a landing. Less
than three steps is illegal. Just wanted to share that :)

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From gpallis at xxx.uk  Mon Nov 20 23:20:36 2000
From: gpallis at xxx.uk (Greg Pallis)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:20:36 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Re: Elle porte une beret comme Faye, elle sera espionne.
References: <3A1959BE.E22E1F1A@ruskin.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <005c01c0534e$152e8a60$0d1686d4@oemcomputer>

P'shaw, unbidded for. I feel so... unvalued. Did no-one want their eternal
future now and forever divined? Still, if a girl with no gag reflex can go
unbidded for, then how can QXL sleep at night?

I had a really cool dream two nights ago, so I'm gonna gloat. In it, I was
going into school, and all these people were jogging up and down the big
grassy space, and there was a massive (like, 2 metres by one metre by one
metre) hi-fi blasting out what I knew was a Elvis song. Now in the dream, I
knew the song to be Suspicious Minds, a song which I've never heard but it's
a little known fact that everyone apart from Elvis who played on Suspicious
Minds got togethor again and called themselves the Sweet Inspirations and
released just one perfect record and it's just called Sweet Inspiration and
it's excellent. But this is largely irrelevant. Anyway, the song that I
thought was Suspicious Minds obviously wasn't, 'cos how could I dream a song
I haven't heard? In fact it's called Girl I'm Gonna Marry, and it's about
him falling in love, and each time thinking this is the one, yeah, she's the
girl, I'm gonna marry, but something goes wrong every time, and it's
actually the best Elvis song ever. And it doesn't exist. It's really catchy
too, I've been humming it these last two days, "oh, she's the girl, yeah,
she's the giiiirl.... I'm gonna marrry.". Later in the dream I started
reciting the quadratic formula, which impressed people, but this is less
relevant to the story. Of course, the whole thing is enormously important,
and really I should be paying more attention to analysing every moment of
the dream, because it surely means that I Am Channeling The Soul Of Elvis!
Come Awn! Ah, I always knew I was gonna be a star.

Jen says that in Glasgow if girls hold hands people yell things, which is
weird, 'cos the girls at my school hold hands /all/ the time. Like,
literally all the time. Like, if a girl has a free hand, it means the other
girls are shunning her and not inviting her to their little hand-holding
sessions. I'm not sure if "it's nineteen ninety-five, the girls are just
friends" or whether I've found a new excuse for being single. Possibly
connected, Fosca are playing club Evol on Saturday, right? If a boy and a
girl go togethor to a gay club do they get in? What if they're actually not
going out, and really are friends? And what will she think of me when I get
drunk and start getting off with a bloke? This /always/ happens, I like
flattery too much and I have good eyelashes or something.

Ooooh! I'm a baxendwinner! Free record! Fame! Glory! Come Awn!

I don't listen to that much B&S right now either, except pocketbook angel,
which is just ace. The new single should be a mini-e.p. called 'The Red
Bulls and Fwuffy Bunnys Mini E.P' and have that on the A-Side and Poupe de
Son on the B Side and a new heartbreaking work of staggering genius of the
c-side. My dad went completely mental when he heard Polyp deCircle, he kept
shouting "France Gall! Belle and Sebastian! That's brilliant!". He's French,
y'see. He doesn't like Isabelle's accent, though and fair enough, Senay's is
much better. 'Let Me Entertain You' is a fantastic title isn't it? It's
exactly what I'd be saying to friends even if the song was called something
different, "just let him entertain you! Please! Just let him! It's GRATE!".
Also Skee Lo, I Wish I Was A Little Bit Taller, is awesome, no?

If you go to mcsweeneys.net, and read all the stories by Lucy Thomas, your
life will be better. I flee now.

Greg

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From David1822 at xxx.com  Mon Nov 20 19:31:38 2000
From: David1822 at xxx.com (David Strange Strange)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:31:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: i'm soooooo excited
Message-ID: <11790517.974748698405.JavaMail.imail@puffer>

hiya again,

i would like to open this post by apoligising to MR tweebunny for thinking
ever-so wrongly HE was a female i'm very sorry mate :0).

Yesterday i certainly wasn't in a very good mood cos i went to visit a very
special place to me and found it had been vandalised this really really
upset cos this special place happened to be the resting place of my
father,how can people desicrate such a special place,i hate people
sometimes.I mean i hear things happen and i think why? like wars etc ther
just so pointless,grrrrrrrrrr!

But today i got the Christmas lp thing for the big issue and it's put me in
such a christmassy mood i can't wait for the big day and it's over a month
away,i'm just going to get more and more excited as the time wares on,i'm so
terrible. I adore christmas it's just the argos adverts really are sooo
irratating status quo should have been disbanded ages ago.

A bit of content rare for me i know, but the christmassy B&s song is lovely
i have to admit i didn't really know the original but the belles have done a
fine job covering it,the first verse is sung by stuart m,the second bit by
the fragrant and not at all big arsed isobel t and the third bit by and even
Sarah gets to sing right at the end,it's really cool.I apoligise now if i
got all the names and parts they sing wrong. Also could someone tell me who
makes up the masionettes as featured on Legal Man,i know it's Isobel,Sarah
but who is the other girl when they weer on Top of the theakstons i mean
pops sorry.

well thats it,oh can genieve i think it wa who done the t-shirt printing by
silk screen tell he how to do it cos i really wanna make my own shirts that
would be neat.

see ya,
dave (dafyd) x






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From athenaofme at xxx.com  Tue Nov 21 00:26:17 2000
From: athenaofme at xxx.com (lisa morrison)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 00:26:17 -0000
Subject: Sinister: the windows are open; the curtains are drawn
Message-ID: <F225zadTMVwVn20lbhs000001b5@hotmail.com>

its the complications of these situations that i adore...
something for everyone: a little pain; a little pleasure
all depending on yr taste...
i feel compelled to comment on jenOw(l) and her endeavors...
the green-day rocker sounds like a big nose in the air bitch to me...
and i know bitches...takes one to know one, i suppose...but dear darling 
jenOw(l) snatching up yr bag and making a run for it sounds so
picturesque...i wish you had had someone video it from across the 
street...i'm sure it would have gone down as a classic...but keep that star 
on yr cheek and keep yr chin up...girls are bitches anyway...
my mother says i should try and be more personable.
i figured i'd make a list attempt...b/c b&s kids are nice. (content?)
how was that...?
judges-yr scores please...

short and sweet
from yr neighborhood ideal
-lisa
           9.9    9.9   9.6   9.76   9.8

                                                     strange feelings
                                                like someones been in        
                                        apartment, which in yr
                                           case is totally possible...
                                                 (i drank wine
                                                   sockless on yr
                                             kitchen counter...then
                                                  slipped out the way
                                                 i came)




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From prbar at xxx.com  Tue Nov 21 01:36:38 2000
From: prbar at xxx.com (Phillip Runion)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 01:36:38 
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <F1697gyoPB2EWrO8lxy000002a3@hotmail.com>

ahoy-hoy,
   The coolest thing to happen in my world in the past couple-a-days:
I was walking through the Guggenheim looking at neat Armani's when i 
realized they were playing one of the albums that i have: Shalabi Effect. 
It's not everyday that you hear music that you own being played in one of 
the greatest museums on the planet. I tried to get a play list after that, 
but to no avail.
   If it weren't for idioteque and optimistic, Kid A would have been a 
complete waste of money. Maybe they're just fucking with everybody and will 
release a real album in March or whatever. Mr. Yorke is a wanker for the 
latest effort, and what a waste of johnny greenwood!
   I wish that i could give jenowl a hug and that i was a girl so that i 
could take her to a grate film and hold her hand as we walked through the 
town square.
   Speaking of grate films, rent Jesus' Son, or read the short stories by 
Denis Johnson.
   Does anyone on this list listen to hip-hop at all? I used to absolutely 
Love Hip-hop before it began being completely destroyed by corporate 
fat-cats; ("Genuine gangsters went into sports management or the music 
business."); even my favorite rapper sold out. . .AArrGhhH!!
But alas, i have found hope in the hip-hop section: Del the Funky Homosapien 
aka Deltron 3030. He is on some bugged-out dope ryhmes that manage to 
surpass Kool Kieth in his prime. Meaning: Dr. Octagon. Incidentally, both of 
these albums are produced by Dan "the Automator" Nakamura, who's name some 
of you may recognize from the lates PRML SCRM effort. So the question i've 
been meaning to ask: does any one know any fresh German, French (-M.C. 
Solaar), Japanese, etc., M.C.s?
I would greatly appreciate any and all suggestions.


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From prbar at xxx.com  Tue Nov 21 01:52:41 2000
From: prbar at xxx.com (Phillip Runion)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 01:52:41 
Subject: Sinister: damn Return button!! 
Message-ID: <F93VexDAeys8FSA4Ale00000325@hotmail.com>

last message cont.

    I manage to press the wrong button. I was almost done and all. The last 
thing was this: (It's basically for Ken) If you're ever in a bodega on 
Houston Street in New York between 1st and 2nd Ave, there is a message 
posted boasting all the benefits of drinking Red Bull (although it mentions 
nothing of Vodka. It would have been really keen if it had.) All the same.

Yours,
Phil R

"Alzbeta managed to get her whole body weight into it."
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From jmcf at xxx.ca  Mon Nov 20 23:33:56 2000
From: jmcf at xxx.ca (jmcf)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 18:33:56 -0500
Subject: Sinister: chesterfield of dreams
References: <F65aTzvb5YI9IJsaJbq00002027@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3A19B4E4.1CF0E2DF@sympatico.ca>



i went to montreal for my birthday last weekend

i went to montreal and i liked it very much

when i returned home last night i slept on my couch before reentering
normality today



emerging exhausted into the dawn on sunday morning - heading towards the
metro, breakfast and sleep at a friend's - large white flakes of snow
drifted down - the first snow of the year that didn't melt hitting the
ground

it was beautiful 

jmcf
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From IndiRckGrl at xxx.com  Tue Nov 21 02:28:20 2000
From: IndiRckGrl at xxx.com (IndiRckGrl at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 21:28:20 EST
Subject: Sinister: America Good music on during primetime?!?!
Message-ID: <f4.4bdc0a6.274b37c4@aol.com>

Hello all you wonderful sinister people,

Out of boredem whilist watching Roswell, I suddenly heard a very familiar 
tune, and after oh 5 seconds or so, it hit me...it was Don't Leave the Light 
On Baby by no one else other than B&S!  I ran downstairs and quick as i could 
and turned on the tv here...and my gosh...it was true!!  B&S being played at 
Prime Time on basic TV, this is just as strange as that time i heard This Is 
A Modern Rock Song being played on the background of SNL!  Well, yes...that 
is all i really have to say...

-Melissa

oh yeah, there were also some SDRE posters up in someone or other's room
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From GardeningAtNight at xxx.com  Tue Nov 21 02:41:45 2000
From: GardeningAtNight at xxx.com (GardeningAtNight at xxx.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 21:41:45 EST
Subject: Sinister: i tried talking to the twees, but they were not feeling affable (vocab word)
Message-ID: <87.32d9b90.274b3ae9@aol.com>

Hi everybody.  I should be studying vocabulary but instead I'm learning more 
of the colorful sort and sending a message to you lovely people.

Are all Scottish high school kids like the ones Jen talks about?  I haven't 
met anyone nearly as mean or vicious, and none of the kids at my school throw 
rocks.  They throw food at us at lunch but that's safer.  Must be something 
in the water supply.  We're just a lazy wimpy sort, apparently.

I got the new Gentle Waves this weekend, I'd forgotten it was out but there 
it was in the B&S bin.  I think it's about 100 times better than the first, 
don't you agree?  Both of the clerks at the register were fans, and one of 
the guys said he didn't much like Looper's live show, but he would've liked 
it more if it were a bit more "blippy."  Whatever that means.  I should've 
asked if they're on Sinister.  So if you're two 20-something guys who worked 
at Vintage Vinyl in St. Louis on Saturday night and think Looper should be 
more blippy, well, hi.

My best friend dyed her hair blue but when she took a shower it all came out. 
 So now she has gray hair.  She was counting on looking like Marge Simpson 
but she ended up looking like.. well.. old.  I'm still wondering why she 
wanted to look like Marge though.  They showed the episode tonight where 
Homer is on the run from PBS so he becomes a missionary in the south Pacific, 
which is probably my favorite of all time.

All my friends are having sex.  It's really depressing.  For them and for me 
I guess.  But no, I don't need anything like that, I never have impure 
thoughts, I'm really fucking twee.  Apparently.  That's what my friends say 
except they don't know the word twee so they say dorky instead.  It must be 
true if ugly pimply kids and people with gray dye jobs can get some and I 
can't.

I'm much too bitter, especially during the holidays.  Anyways.  My big 
project right now is Christmas presents.  I've decided that I will make every 
friend and most acquaintances and teachers a custom-fitted mixtape.  And they 
must all contain B&S of course.  Trouble is, I can't think of songs for these 
scenarios:

a boy who loves opera, George Michael, and U2
a girl who's letting alternative radio get a hold on her but likes Elliott 
Smith, so that's a start.
a French teacher (French songs)
a girl I have a crush on who's very artsyfartsy and loves Nader and Rocky 
Horror stuff

But anyway.  I'll go back to lurking now.  But if someone could tell me why 
Optimistic is everyone's favorite Kid A song, I'd like to know.  Because I 
only like it better than Treefingers maybe, for some reason.  I love the 
record though.  Teeny Eye (as my friends call him) is probably one of the 
last people that can still reduce me to tears, in the best possible way of 
course.

Love,
Samantha, freeing the turkeys from the patriarchial gluttony of Thanksgiving.
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From jules at xxx.cx  Tue Nov 21 04:24:02 2000
From: jules at xxx.cx (Julie)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:24:02 -0500
Subject: Sinister: America Good music on during primetime?!?!
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Melissa said:
> Out of boredem whilist watching Roswell, I suddenly heard a very familiar
> tune, and after oh 5 seconds or so, it hit me...it was Don't Leave the
Light
> On Baby by no one else other than B&S!
Ahh, yes, Don't Leave The Light On was the Liz and Max Music Of Despair for
the evening.  But!  It was quickly followed by Apples In Stereo's "Shine A
Light" which, although played in a recent JC Penney ad I'd much rather hear
than fucking Fatboy Slim or whatever shite they pick as this year's
advertising-snippet-song-of-the-year.  AND! As the car full of aliens
careened off to New York one could also hear the dulcet tones of Papas
Fritas "What Am I Supposed To Do".  Who died and left some angsty indie kid
to pick the background music for Roswell?  I LOVE THE WB!!!
On an auction note, I see that none other than Stuart Murdoch has purchased
my squeaky roommate!  Whatever will he do with her?

xxx
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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Tue Nov 21 10:59:31 2000
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:59:31 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Timber! Here Come The Foxgloves!
Message-ID: <003401c053aa$63ed0f80$b65c243e@itjfvkli>

I'm sorry if I accidentally gave Carsmile the impression that the Foxgloves
photo would no longer be on display in New York, I just naturally assumed
that one of the lumberjacks would have taken it home to "shoot the rapids"
over it. Still, at least the exhibition was easy to find, just follow the
mighty river of lumberjacks, like a terrifying scene from "Invasion of the
Foxglove Shaggers". Swoon!

Who outbidded me for Honey's services? Now I'll never have a The 70s WHO
Loghouse Project Mailing List. But at least I'll have 25 quid to spend on
The 70s WHO fancy dress outfits. Swoon!

Didn't anyone go to see Sodastream and Chris Leonard at the church hall? I'm
sure I'm not alone in yearning for a detailed report - what kind of shoes
were people wearing? Was the janitor there? Did the DJ play loads of ska
records? Was there any stagediving? - at least it would offset the current
avalanche of Radiohead posts. Why it seems like only yesterday that Mister
Chris himself was telling us all about a hymn concert at the selfsame venue,
where Isobel DJed dressed up as a cowgirl. Swoon!

THAI NEWS: something about an exhibition of inventions - the King of
Thailand was represented. They announced as if it was some kind of surprise,
but we know better, don't we?

Peter

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From shewitt at xxx.uk  Tue Nov 21 11:46:28 2000
From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:46:28 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Auction Facts and Figures or...
Message-ID: <3A1A6094.8FA40A8C@ruskin.ac.uk>

why steve should really get a life.

Did a bit of research last night, and it would appear the auction has
raised £2700, 81 of the 173 lots received bids ranging from £10 to (i
think) £405.  Struan made the most money, his two lots raising over
£600  and Struan also won the most things including badges, a haircut,
clothes patching, a personal thrift store shopper and video editing, for
which he paid ten squid each, obviously a man with an eye for a bargain,
as is our very own list mummy who i think scored three bargains
herself.  No other members of the band seemed to bid for anything,
unless they used elaborate pseudonyms (of course "stuart murdoch" could
be a pseudonym, but i think we can assume that it was the man himself),
although our favourite merchandising person put in a couple of bids.

It was worth noting that the twee poetry lots did very badly, whereas
the going out and getting pissed lots did very well, although this
theory kind of falls apart when you look at how well the
knitting/crocheting lots did, and i can't wait to hear dj pain at the
next tigermilking...

Got the xmas album last night and on first listen it's rather sweet,
although following the world of sadness above, i'd like to point out
that it's stuart, then stevie, then isobel singing, i think.  Still not
as good as my tijuana xmas record though ;)

I'd also like to second mr miller's call for a review of friday nite, i
know people were there, some nutter even drove up from chelmsford for it
apparently...

xoxo
CarsmileSteve
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From Weingut.Hammes at xxx.de  Tue Nov 21 12:49:40 2000
From: Weingut.Hammes at xxx.de (Juergen Hammes)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:49:40 +0100
Subject: Sinister: size does matter, and it is depressing
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Hi folks, how's your day ? Mine is o-kay.
What's all this about list crushes ? It sounds so interesting and cute, but 
could anyone explain it to me ? Thankyou...

I realised that "This Is Hardcore" by Pulp is a wonderful album to do workout 
stuff. that doesn't mean I'm going to do it more often, although god knows I 
should. Right know, I cannot choose about whether to be fat or be confused. I 
mean, being confused but beautiful will at least make people respond to me. Male 
people.

But I don't want to bore anyone about this awful topic. Just forget it.

Kerstin "try :-)" H.

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From imn_uk at xxx.uk  Tue Nov 21 13:13:28 2000
From: imn_uk at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?nicolson=20ian?=)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:13:28 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Couldn't tell Lou Reed from Doug Yule
Message-ID: <20001121131328.23588.qmail@web4301.mail.yahoo.com>

Mark Hester spluttered:
""Christmas comes earlier each year" whingers are a 
perennial hazard.  You know the type - people who 
insist that it is obscene that the deccies in the 
shops appear in early or mid-November and maintain
that they can remember when it Didn't Used To Happen."

Shops putting up Christmas stuff early (it's usually
September rather than November round these parts)
doesn't bother me at all, but people decorating their
houses around now really spoils it, don't you think?
Such as the people who live around the corner from me
who always really go over the top and try to turn
their house into a winter wonderland type thing, which
can be nice and indeed heartwarming on cold, dark
December evenings, but they usually wait until at
least, well, December.  But this year they've got all
the lights and everything on already, so instead of
looking festive it just looks garish.  Almost as
garish as Glasgow City Chambers, in fact.  But not
quite.

Speaking of Glasgow (neat little segue there, did you
notice?) there's an exhibition currently on at the
Lighthouse there that might be of interest to listy
people.  Actually, the people who it's probably of
most interest to are those from Glasgow, who probably
know all about it already and I'm just showing how
incredibly unhip and behind the times I am by
mentioning this, while thinking that I'm being dead
clever just cause I saw something about it in the
papers at the weekend.  But there might be people who
don't know about it, or are maybe going to be visiting
in the next few months or something.  Anyway, it's
called 'Electric City' and is about the underground
(for want of a better word) music scene in Glasgow
over the past 25 years and features such Sinister
faves as the Pastels and Orange Juice and Postcard
Records and suchlike.  Belle & Sebastian were
mentioned in the article I read, but I don't know if
there's anything about them in the exhibition.  It's
probably worth a visit if you can get there and it's
free to get into, which is good as well.  It runs
until 25 February (by which time I might have a job
and be able to travel through!) and there's more about
it at: 
http://www.thelighthouse.co.uk/electric-city

See - sometimes I can post things which people might
be interested in!

Peter Miller and Carsmile asked about Sodastream in
Hyndland on Friday.  I was there, but far too dazzled
by said Glasgow City Chambers Christmas lights and the
sheer excitement of travelling on underground trains
to form any coherent opinion, so I'll leave the
reviews to people better qualified than myself!

Ian N.


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From littlearsonist at xxx.com  Tue Nov 21 14:34:21 2000
From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 06:34:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: when we kiss it feels like a flying saucer landing
Message-ID: <20001121143421.14499.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com>

k.  so i like totally wasn't going to post or anything
    ***  AHEM.  sorry.  i was temporarily possessed by 
         a valley girl.  or maybe it's all that WB i've
         been watching.  anyway.  ***

so.  so i watch roswell religiously.  i used to have a
huge crush on maria til she got that dag-nasty ponytail
extension shizznit.  or maybe it's her real hair.  either
way, she looked better before.  so i watch roswell even
though it's quickly becoming stupid and pornographic.
BUT!  i especially watched it last night because i knew 
that stuey & co. would be crooning in the background.  
how did i know this?  helLO!  i was looking at the b&s 
page!  why was i doing such a thing?  cuz i'd heard that 
suspicious rumour (rumour?  see?  i'm assimilating already!  
london better be ready when julie and i descend upon ye!)
about struan buying megan.  see below:

--- Julie <jules at inebriated.cx> wrote:
> On an auction note, I see that none other than Stuart Murdoch has 
> purchased my squeaky roommate!  Whatever will he do with her? 

doood.  i know what *I* would do with her.  *ahem*  
sorry.  you know i luvs you, megan.

months of not posting and now i post this drivel?  

i want the christmas album.
i was thinking, though... in light of stuart's past
references to schoolgirls and schoolboys and other 
dirty things, is there something maybe a little off 
about him singing "oh come oh come emmanuel"??  no?

right then.
shout outs to laura llew who still fucking rules 
after all these, erm, months.  and to the ever saucy
christiaan who is now the proud owner of a pair of
girls' sparkly boot-cut paris blues jeans.  you go, 
girl.


who luvs you?
xo,
ree


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From tweebunny at xxx.uk  Tue Nov 21 14:35:25 2000
From: tweebunny at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?The=20Twee=20Bunny?=)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 14:35:25 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Here he comes to save the day! Yes Tweebunny is on his way!
Message-ID: <20001121143525.97614.qmail@web10305.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello my little chickadees.

Goodness, hasn't the weather been a bit peculiar? It's
freezing my carrots right off! Brrrr!

I see we have another furry listee, although she may
just be an SFA fan, and not *furry* like the
Tweebunny! So, superfurrygrrrrl, are you furry? Do you
have hair in places most people shouldn't?

*hop* *hop* *hop* *hop*

Sorry. Trying to keep the chill from my paws.

Strange David (although I may have that the wrong way
round) apologised to me. Well, me bucko, you shouldn't
have made the error in the FURst place! But all is
forgiven. Just don't be asking to see my hairy carrot!
Oooh missus!

Tweebunny's love interest crashed and burned. She
doesn't love his furry features. Still, plenty more
cabbages in the field. The non-love farmer hasn't
caught me yet!!! *hop* *hop* *hop*

I think that JenOwl sounds, to paraphrase, really
GRATE! You seem like a real cutie! Don't waste your
time on girls, enjoy bunnies instead! *hops with hope*
I'll give the hard kids a super bunny kick in the
happy sack! That'll stop em!!!

I heard that there's a fox in this list! A Black
Fox!!! *looks scared* I hope it's a friendly,
rabbit-loving fox, or I'm going to have to bunny-kick
my way to freedom! Like Mel Gibson!

Hmm, content? I don't like Fox In The Snow, cos a fox
in the snow almost stole my heart away. Still, at
least she was a cute *fox!!!* Whoooooooo!

I'm a wee bit mad today. Too much orange juice and
carrots!!

Bye bye! Love you all!!!


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From elenita99 at xxx.com  Tue Nov 21 14:39:11 2000
From: elenita99 at xxx.com (elenita99)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:39:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: "Have you got wrinkles yet?" said my brother
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My darling Sinister,

Well, here we are, I am 21. It sounds a bit scary i think. I mean 20 is just
so�classy, and then 21 is the beginning of a new decade. Waow. I don't want
to grow older but I think I have no choice as I am not like Peter Pan, which
is a shame really.

Still, to forget I was getting older I got drunk this week-end and had a lot
of chocolate cake and probably too much whisky. Not together, I have no
recipe of whisky'n'choc cake.

I even had my first party in my new flat which was cool, my guests behaved
very well and I had no bad surprises the next morning. Well if we except
some neighbours complaining, but as i am very diplomatic and I don't want my
landlord to know I have been naughty and got drunk with my friends, I fed
them choc cake "cos I am so very sorry you know"  (said with a very sorry
little smile) and it was all ok the day after. Eh eh eh.

My new flatmates are almost ok. But they like "El Bus". I bet you don't know
what "el bus" is, you lucky people. It's like Big Brother but in a bus.They
stuck 10 people in a bus and travel them around Spain and there are cameras
everywhere in the bus and we know what they eat, what they drink, who is
doing the washing up and who is not and who has sex with his/her bed
neighbour and who doesn't. Very interesting as you can imagine.  But well it
looks like they are getting addicted. And they were all upset yesterday
because the public chose to quick off the only girl who was having sex (well
not on her own but they didn't kick off the boy, you see). So what will
happen next week if nobody has sex? "Poor Javier, he is all upset now". My
God, and then they look at me weird when I jump around singing in the living
room.

Well I am off now, I have to get prepared to do a presentation in front of
50 Spanish students in a week time.  Teachers probably think you like
talking in front of people showing crap transparents. Of course, I am dying
of impatience.

Have a good week all of you
Elena xxx


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From jaffa_cakes at xxx.com  Tue Nov 21 13:49:04 2000
From: jaffa_cakes at xxx.com (Pamela Tait)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 05:49:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Bah.......humbug!
Message-ID: <13770895.974814544772.JavaMail.imail@slippery>

Hi kids. Pamela here. And today I'm going to talk about:

Christmas Shopping.

If you want to stay in a good mood today, then don't read this.

OK. The season of goodwill to all men? Yeah right. It's so depressing. Loads
of people are on their own at this time of the year and it's not something
you can fight back against. Christmas isn't going to go away. it's
everywhere and trying to pretned you don't feel more lonly and alienated
from society is futile. And for those who actively involve themselves in the
whole festive thing: - I pity them. Why cause yourself all this unnecessary
stress just because people expect you to run around queueing for Foot Spa's
in Argos, trying to find necklaces and then fighting for the last turkey at
M&S? I sometimes wish I could slip into a coma and wake up in february,
after all the sales have finished. I know it's pessimistic and depressing,
but it's the way I view Christmas. It's never going to change. I avoid
sending cards. It's so hypocritical. Most people aren't religious at all and
yet they spend all this money on gifts and cards that are to mark a
religious occasion. I can see the point in getting smashed at New Year. It's
the end of another year. And most people need a good rink after all the
bullshit of Christmas. The whole Xmas thing is so false. I feel like
shouting at people in shops: !Why are you buying that? When was the last
time you set foot in a church or chapel? I'm quite sure the person you're
buying that for would rather you went home and had a cup of tea instead of
getting stressed out over a fucking tie!!!"
The Jehovas Witnesses have the right idea. They don't give gifts at
christmas. This girl I knew was a Witness and at christmas, her parents
bought her a puppy. I'd prefer that. I'm buying myself a kitten in a weeks
time. I'd rather have something like that than a telly or a new watch. And
imagine the joy of buying a puppy or kitten, instead of queueing in a busy
shop, hoping they still have a bloody Man United top in the right size.
Nowadays when people buy gifts at christmas, they don't feel good about it.
they're just glad that it's one more problem out of the way. I hate that
feeling and if I actually venture out into the crowds, I try not to get
pissed off when a buggy clips my heels or when I find that perfect gift only
to discover some absolute waste of life has torn the box open and remeoved
the pen/nail varnish/chocolates. Okay, so as a popular brand of loo roll
once said: "A puppy is for life, not just for Christmas..." but excuse me
for stating the obvious; wouldn't you make sure the puppy was wanted before
you ran out and bought one? To make matters worse, it's either raining or
(dear God....) snowing at Christmas. This adds to the hell. As if it's not
bad enough walking about for hours with uncomfortable shoes on, feet often
end up wet, cold, wrinkled and if you don't actually have a cold, you can
bet your banana you'll have one by December 20th. Snow's nice to look at but
it's a pain in the posterior when you've to walk through it. I'm not
anti-kids (I'm pro-kids! The world needs more of these little humanoids!
They are the way forward!) but if you can find a babysitter, please leave
them at home while you shop. They cry, touch things, add to noise levels and
make it all the more stressful. It's not fair on them, either. When you were
under ten, did you like the idea of shopping for slippers? You didn't? Well,
put yourself in their shoes for once and leave them indoors. These creche
things in supermarkets are a wonderful idea. Especially since most people
can't find a babysitter 'cause EVERYONE'S GONE MAD AND EVERYONE'S SCARED TO
STAY IN INCASE THEY MISS SOME VALUABLE SHOPPING TIME!!! I'd also like to see
more people leaving their mobile phones at home during the shopping period.
i know they're useful if you have to call your brother (who's been standing
in the Boots queue for half an hour) and ask him what ring size your Auntie
Anne is. I see people answering their phones and they're unable to hear what
the caller is saying because there's tacky Christmas music blasting out over
a tinny tannoy reception or there's a three year old having a tantrum in the
other aisle. We've all seen them: screwed up face mouthing "WHAT!?!?" and
clearly unable to walk out because they're about to be served in The Mother
Of All Queues. I see them and I want to hug them and say "Go home and watch
COuntdown....". The text message is useful but switch the ringer off. It's
going to piss everyone else off, let alone your self. As disgusting as my
habit may be, I wish they'd let us smoke in the shops. Those of you who are
non smokers will no doubt be repulsed and shockened by my uncaring and
irresponsible attitude but all you smokers out there will know what I mean.
Just a quick puff when you're stressed - that would do me a world of good.
Every major department store or megastore should have an E.S.B. An Emergency
Smoking Booth. I can see the in-store notices now:
"Feeling stressed? One of our helpful staff will look after your
bags/children/vibrating phone and keep your place in the queue while you
spend a much needed five minutes getting a fix of nicotine in the air
conditioned booth situated at the rear entrance."
In fact, I'll send my ides to Debenhams right now. You never know, there
could be a job in it for me......

Phew. I've terrified myself of going outside now. I think I've darkened
enough souls for now. Look, Christmas is a bit of a con. I know we're all
conforming to it to to some degree but just take notice of what I said. I
know I'm not the only one who feels like this.

*thinks of staring up a Christmas Shopping Support Group*

Be nice. As the Radiohead sticker says: Don't Be A Dick....

Mail me if you're stressed, fellow Sinisterians. Perhaps it would be worth
your while asking your friends if they want a puppy or kitten instead of
golf clubs.

Stay safe, people.

Lots of love and understanding looks....

Pamela
xxx

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From mod4real at xxx.com  Tue Nov 21 15:41:22 2000
From: mod4real at xxx.com (Chan Toby)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 07:41:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Modern Life is Rubbish.
Message-ID: <20001121154122.69410.qmail@web9205.mail.yahoo.com>

Mates,

Jen met a girl hate u and said u r witch coz
u r not a rocker and drink herbal tea...

A London guy in HK reckon me as "Yeah-yeah" coz i 
like UK Garage and said "Craig David is okay". But he
is a HipHopNerd. Buying never ending Wu-things and
buy everything in Sony. 

~so what's the fucking pt at all?~

I like drinking herbal tea... as u might know, i am
from Hong Kong and i enjoy all kinda tea. Chinese
Tea, Herbal Tea, Indian Tea, English Tea (Earl
Grey)...

Someone state 13 songs... Yep!
For Tomorrow is great!!!!
modern lonely couples. modern life.... is rubbish...
hug, open TV, turn off TV, put my pant and parka on,
smoke some hash,  silk cut,drink my Tshing Tao Beers
or KilKenny or Heineken....or Vodka and Red Bull.....
and pissed off coz all the copies of P J Harvey new
LP is sold out.

This is Life.

Toby 





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From V0168JE2 at xxx.UK  Tue Nov 21 15:58:43 2000
From: V0168JE2 at xxx.UK (weejay)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 15:58:43 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Yes, but who is Tom Hanks?
Message-ID: <3A1A9BB4.18265.21B21A@localhost>

Ah, good morning Sinisterinosters, I hope life is treating you all 
well. Mine seems to be looking up in a strange way since I 
discovered little cute pretentious girl was just a bit dull under the 
reserved exterior. Yes, mere minutes after I realised I had no 
interest in her at all, Tom Hanks turned up at the Rhino Club and 
whisked her off her feet, then accompanied her back to my house 
and later took her back to who-knows-where after smoking my 
gear. If only life tied up so well regularly. I'm hoping Ally Sheedy 
will be there next time waiting for me at the bar with a crisp & 
rainbow dust sandwich but someone told me she's a lesbian so 
she probably wouldn't be interested... ...unless I told her all about 
how I'm a tweedyke-girl trapped in a fopp's body. But she's 
probably heard that a million times before.

The 'Kid A' debate rumbles on, I see. I liked it, actually, but I like 
Warp Records stuff and that's what it sounds like. Sort of. I know 
someone who's signed to Warp (In some kind of subsidiary way) 
and knows Squarepusher and Chris Cunningham. Last Friday I 
bumped into him and he'd gone insane in a frighteningly literal 
sense. I thought he was just joking for a few miniutes but then I 
saw a manic gleam in his eyes I'd never seen before and had to 
step away. Then he had a go at a few people for random things and 
scared a few girls (don't know how). Then he followed us most of 
the way home (we didn't realise who that hooded figure behind us 
was until we were nearly there). It's sad really, he needs help but 
we're all afraid of him now.

On a more cheerful note my housemate got sent the new Gentle 
Waves album for review and its amazingly good, much better than 
the first (which I really liked by the way). Better than, dare I say it, 
most of the last B&S album, actually. There are a couple of tracks 
that grate a little but most of it's just perfect really, sweeping 
walker-esque production and her voice has improved so much...

Ok, enough already.

xxx weejay

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From Marc.Bloomfield at xxx.uk  Tue Nov 21 17:32:51 2000
From: Marc.Bloomfield at xxx.uk (Marc Bloomfield)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:32:51 +0000
Subject: Sinister: it's cold and it's raining and it's nearly Christmas to boot
In-Reply-To: <13770895.974814544772.JavaMail.imail@slippery>
References: <13770895.974814544772.JavaMail.imail@slippery>
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Hello!

Well, it's really got cold and cruddy now, even in London. And smoggy too
- you can tell when it's starting to get dark, and the sky goes really
murky. Well, it does here, anyway.

Pamela said:
Christmas isn't going to go away.

And she's right, I think. I completely agree with what she said about
Christmas in general. It seems to get more miserable each year. I guess it
just doesn't feel so special as you get older. Although that's the sort of
thing your mum and dad always say. Makes me feel old myself. I think it's
safe to say that I too am dreading Christmas.

I guess there should be some B&S content, so I think it's best to say that
I've been having a right good listen of late, just to odd songs, rather
than whole albums' worth of stuff. Strangely, they kind of cheer me up in
a reassuring sort of way. In the same way that reading Richard Brautigan's
short stories does.

On some other musical content, I bought the new Fall album the other day,
and I love it. I realise most people here will not exactly believe me on
that (I don't think I've ever met a Fall fan except at a Fall gig), but
really, it's true! They're really back on form. Ahem. Anyway, if anyone's
going to see them at Dingwalls in Camden tomorrow, I'd like to meet you.
Then there's the Hefner gig on Thursday - they seem to be rather more
popular.

Ho hum. Well, I don't think there's much more to say, except that I hope
everyone's all okay.

Er, so that's it. Sorry if that bored anyone.

Marc.

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From jkananen at xxx.net  Tue Nov 21 18:36:41 2000
From: jkananen at xxx.net (j r kananen)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:36:41 -0800
Subject: Sinister: confesions of a mailing list junkie
Message-ID: <002701c053e9$fe1be420$5c7cfea9@m8e5h9>

hullo
uhm... hi, today i thought i would quit just reading the posts and send one
in myself... it's my first and i'm a little sca-urd so...
anyway
I'm about halfway done shooting a film for school that I called "The State I
Am In" because it's sorta suggested by the song (I wrote it...) at least it
was inspired by the song.  Basically it's a homage to B&S, the character's
names are all hybrids of the names of the members, and there's a priest who
wrote a book about one of the character's sins, etc... It's coming along
quite nicely and if anyone here on the list would like a copy of it when
it's done (should be done before dec. 12 'cause that's when it's due...)

I was so hurt the other day when a guy I know made a comment about the
Radiohead performance on SNL (sorry if there has been a lot of unwanted
Radiohead posts and I'm just adding to them).  He said it was the worst
performance he'd ever seen.  Of course the guy is ignorant.  He's only been
to 2 shows his entire life (and he's 24) and all the listers here know that
seeing a show live is totally different from seeing a live show on TV or
hearing it on the radio.  And he has terrible taste, he likes metalica and
all that metal stuff *yuk* And I know that an opinion coming from a guy with
those (and some more) bad qualities shouldn't bother me, it did.  I didn't
like him much before and I fucking hate him now (to quote High Fidelity).

Enough hate.
anyway
it's good to 'know' all you sinister listies, and i love you all.
^_^
thanks for readin'
Jason
- we got heads on sticks -
Radiohead Kid A

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From llu at xxx.edu  Tue Nov 21 19:01:48 2000
From: llu at xxx.edu (Liqin Lu)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 14:01:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: i love you, what are you?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0011211321540.20545-100000@puma.middlebury.edu>

hi sinister!

i'm wondering if anyone familiar with the LA area would be kind enough to
provide me with info/suggestions on nice places to go visit, cuz i'm going
there for christmas break and i have no idea where to go once i'm
there. 

 * b+s content:
1.i gave '3..6..9 seconds of light' to my italian teacher last weekend and
when she gave me back the cd she said she liked it and would reconsider
belle & sebastian. i'm happy =)

2.i was at my friend's last night for the whole night, and i checked my
email once in a while. around 10:30 i checked it again only to find
Melissa's post about 'don't leave the light on baby' being played in
roswell. i was surprised at first, and then kept asking my friend 'what
time is it?' 'do u have a tv?'(which was the dumbest question cuz i knew
she doesn't own a tv). after i found out the show on wb was already over i
was so disappointed (and kept blaming my friend altho she didn't have
anything to do with me missing the show). then the idea of catching a
rerun of that episode struck me, so i went on to check the tv listings for
middlebury. i didn't find anything mentioning roswell on the monday
listing, so i thought 'hmm how weird' and went on to check tuesday's
(today's). and there it was, roswell listed in the 10pm column on fox
44. it turned out that i had forgotten the fact that we don't have wb
here, but fox 44 air some of the wb shows sometimes at a later date. i
felt so relieved! and i am going to enjoy the show tonight at 10 =)

sorry this is so long, hope everyone (at least in the states) is enjoying
turkey time!

liqin  

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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com  Tue Nov 21 20:25:57 2000
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 20:25:57 -0000
Subject: Sinister: November's Gales Have Blown The Colour From The Sky
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Hi Fragrant Ones,

First things first. Listen to John Peel tonight 22:00 - 00:00 BBC Radio 1 as
Sodastream are in session.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/djs/peel.shtml

On Thursday you can also hear the first session from the Incredible String
Band since 1973, but that may be of lesser appeal :)


Whilst we're chucking URL's around: Kerstin, you can find out more about
listcrushes at

http://www.missprint.org/sinister/crush.html


A couple of people were asking for an account of Friday's gig & it seems
that the Glasgow posse has been struck dumb, probably by the power of The
Gentle Waves concert on Sunday. So for Don Pedro & Steve "Mad Axeman" Hewitt
(Carsmile, why was no-one ever charged with the Gloucestershire Trumpeter
Murders in the early 90's?) here goes:


Glasgow For It
I had a shit week at work & felt under the weather, so on Thursday pushed
ahead with my jobs to take Friday off. In the morning I awoke with a daft
idea in my head: following Mick & Peter's advice on Sinister I should go &
see Sodastream ... in Glasgow!

All the family thought I was mental (400 mile drive) but I went anyway as
although I was going to see them on the Saturday I knew it would be too
crowded in that small room in the Betsey Trotwood in London, & besides Chris
Leonard was supporting & I'd never been to Glasgow.

It took about 6 and a half hours driving but it was a brilliant autumn day,
sun shining bright, great music on the stereo, no-one hassling me on the
phone & the scenery en route was superb. Snow on the Pennines, Mistopher
Chris in my ears.

Arrived in the city, rows of grey Victorian houses grim in the dark tree
lined streets. A black Granada parked on Novar Drive - must be Hyndland
church hall! Strolled in, people surprised to see me there.

Met Karl & Pete Sodastream, Princess Honey, Linda, Mick Cooke, the shy
caretaker from the hall (Quite handsome in a pixie-ish way. Cheeky grin,
prominent cheekbones. Red hair. Stuart Murdoch, I think his name was),
Stevie Jackson, Chris Leonard, Julia, Keith Watson, Katrina House, her mate
Shelley, Ally Cook, Ailsa Ross, Carey Lander, Owen Lowery (The Narrow
Wizard, who doesn't have bushy eyebrows at all).*

Gig was great, Chris had a sore throat but was still superb. If he blew
Sodastream off stage it was with his hankie :) About a hundred people sat on
rows of chairs in the freezing cold hall. A white-painted bicycle propped up
against the blue backdrop, standard & table lamps illuminating the stage,
candles in jars for atmosphere. No bar so everyone clutching Victoria Wine
carrier bags & swigging on bottles & cans of beer. Every time someone knocks
over a bottle Stuart's head whipped round as he knows he has to clear it up
(& maybe also a clean hall means he can put more gigs on later.) I forgot to
check what shoes people were wearing, maybe because my feet were too cold.

Mick played records in the gaps before/between/after the bands. The closest
he got to playing ska  that I can remember was Althia & Donna's Up Town Top
Ranking. In any case he got top marks from me for playing Looking For A Love
off Zuma.

Chris had set up a stall to sell Sodastream drinks in honour of the
Australian guests (but it got messy & he gave up) Later a crowd of girls
clustered round, admiring the size & smoothness of his glistening white
pillar.

Sodastream were great too, sang loads of songs, so sad & yet so beautiful.
Mick played muted trumpet with them on two numbers, one of them my
favourite, Boss. Mick told me later that one song of theirs, Able Hands
(they wrote it for a friend of theirs who died) makes him fill up - well
Boss does that to me. Pete says that Mick is a perfect musician: he
remembered the arrangement of Boss spot on after an 18 month gap.

Stroked Honey's arm, talked to lots of lovely people, Ally got excited,
Carey gave out Papercuts questionnaires to all the band members, I helped
her pinch the posters for souvenirs, talked to Chris about the Incredible
String Band, talked to Keith Watson about wanking, The Who, David Bowie,
Jethro Tull, The Clientele & loads more, Ailsa had a fit of the giggles
during Chris' set (she heard Grandfather's Clock without the 'l') & had to
walk out, had a long discussion with Stevie about Neil Young & his favourite
album & gig and lots more. His knowledge of music is encyclopaedic & he's
very precise & accurate. I must do more homework before next starting a
conversation with him!


I didn't have anywhere to stay but kindness himself Mr Cooke put me up for
the night. Ally & Carey wanted to go to Insomnia, so after sorting out
Sodastream's stuff from his flat, sorting out accommodation for me, he then
took them across the city in the early hours, me driving my car & him giving
directions (he was too knackered to drive himself)


Struan? White trousers, black polo neck jumper, not as tall "in real life"
as you imagine him to be. Maybe he looks taller when he's on stage, or maybe
its because he's only human after all :) He looks pretty down to earth when
he's stacking the chairs away after the band have finished playing. And when
he's mopping the floor afterwards too. He has the wrong mop bucket for the
kind of mop he uses, but he can still lean on it.


In the morning got up, made some coffee, drove the 400 miles back again, six
hours on automatic pilot, can't remember how I got home. Weather not so
good, strong winds buffeting the car on the motorway from Glasgow, driving
rain. Luckily not too much traffic & no hold-ups all the way.

Home, showered, ate, did washing, washing up ... drove off to London to see
Sodastream within two hours of getting back. ******* Idiot.

Betsey Trotwood: saw Sally, Trousers, Lucy, Mark Casarotto, Tim Hopkins,
Sezzah, Liz Daplyn, Lixi, Martin, Matt, Richard, Jim, Geoff, Suzy (hope I've
spelt that right) who was a big fan of Karl's former teen star band Thermos
Cardy in Perth, Western Australia, loads of Aussies, Chris Brown, Carsmile
Steve, more Sinisterines than you get at a picnic. Alisdair Clientele &
Innes Relict there too.* Gig great again, but really glad I went to the
previous evening's as it was a better atmosphere & they played more songs. I
was leaning on the PA about as close to the band as anyone could get.
Afterwards asked the guys to sign the CD & some singles, Pete wrote an
essay! & they both thanked me for my support. They put up with so much shit
on this tour too. Terrible accommodation, getting little sleep, some days
not getting a shower, etc.

Had to give Sally & Martin lifts back to Greenwich, stopped at Martin's for
a pee & a tea. Suzy telling tales of Thermos Cardy & Perth.

Home at 3 a.m. Terrible back ache in the morning - too much driving. Sally
thinks I'm having a mid-life crisis, perhaps I am.


Will that do?


*Apologies to anyone I left out - failing memory :(


Love,

David Moore
Chelmsford, UK

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From molotchie at xxx.com  Tue Nov 21 19:52:41 2000
From: molotchie at xxx.com (Totchie Molotchie)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 19:52:41 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Christmasness
Message-ID: <LAW-F122GR881Np7vXe000006d1@hotmail.com>

Hello people

Having read Pamela's xmas rant i just wanted to say that i like it! 
Christmas that is.  I would have xmas tree in my house all year if i could.  
That's my favourite thing, the tree and the smell of it.  I like the baubles 
and tinsel.  In fact i have a silver glittery twiggy star that hangs in 
front of my bedroom window that's a proper xmas decoration and i intend to 
keep there all year.  It's special, whenever i stand and look out the window 
it brushes against my head and my hair gets full of silvery glitter and i 
look like a princess!

Moving swiftly on, i haven't had much luck converting the masses to the 
sounds of B+S, i played String Bean Jean to my best friend and she just 
wrinkled her nose and said it was ok then i played her Family Tree and she 
said thought it was by a different band completely.  She couldn't comprehend 
that their songs weren't sung by one person.  She's a bit odd and she likes 
F*ve and M*r*ah C*rey.  Should i find my self a new best friend?

Anyway thanks for having me.

Silver love
                    Totchie Molotchie xxx

PS Happy Birthday Elena, i wish i was 21!

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From hamibe02 at xxx.edu  Wed Nov 22 04:53:00 2000
From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:53:00 -0500
Subject: Sinister: typewriter tappers you're all just crappers
Message-ID: <001401c05440$17a05ec0$ddd590cf@woody>

i feel like rambling on and on and on incessantly, elaborating to no end
about my troubles; digressing about my sorrows; detailing the horrors.  but
i won't.  i will simply make generic, blind statements that we can all
enjoy.

listen: i think love is an illusion.  somebody tell me i'm wrong.  actually,
i know i'm wrong.  but sometimes i think a group of middle aged, fabulously
well-to-do men in a white walled room, cold and sterile, came up with such a
premonition: love.  and they spread this ill conceived notion upon the rest
of us, making those of us not privy to its most intimate nuances feel
slightly worthless and unusable.  just a theory, you see.

listen: young girls are so brutal.  they are.  there are young girls on this
list.  you should be ashamed of breaking my heart every 2-6 months.  like a
clock!

listen: i don't think god is dead.  i think he's out of the office at the
moment; he got caught in traffic on the way back to the office.  and he's
got incredible road rage.  look out.

listen: i think that these are precious times.  everyone, run outside right
now and breath the autumn air.  it sounds really inane: cheesy, even.  it's
not.  i promise.  and i've never lied to you.  never ever ever ever
concentrate on the future.  just worry about where you are.

listen: i believe in love.  i believe it's out there.  it's no myth.  i know
it isn't.

a brief question: does anyone have a love/hate relationship with the
mysterious crush?  i know i've beaten this issue to a cruel and unusual
death on this list through the years, but i feel as though i've dedicated
enough time to the issue that i deserve an explanation.  why do i love and
hate being totally infatuated with a mysterious, young, lovely girl at the
same time?  is it the sickness upon waking up, knowing she's waking up too?
that she, like me, is incredibly normal?

through my years of heartbreak i have always put those objects of affection
on unnecessary pedestals: i pretty much took myself out of the running as
soon as anything started.  now, if we both brush our teeth, put on our pjs,
and read before bed, are we not the same?

things to contemplate.  if anyone has any answers, i will next time, post
about b&s.  i think.  i have stuff to say.

not meant to be a pity post, but that's what it is, isn't it?
very sorry, don't flog me
xxoo
blake
the nerdy shy-eyed pacifist

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From jordiet at xxx.com  Wed Nov 22 08:10:46 2000
From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano)
Date: 22 Nov 2000 08:10:46 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Cattle and wine
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From pjmiller at xxx.es  Wed Nov 22 09:13:45 2000
From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:13:45 +0100
Subject: Sinister: Lap, Lap, Lap, Lap
Message-ID: <002201c05464$a007c360$9444243e@itjfvkli>

Happy Jacks,

Should you be that way inclined, there is a review of the Gentle Waves'
performance in Dublin on Monday to be found at:
http://www.nme.com/NME/External/Reviews/Reviews_Story/0,1069,6348,00.html
It speaks very highly of them, but I won't believe it until I can compare it
with some eyewitness reviews. It mentions a version of John Cale's "I'm Not
the Loving Kind". Don't they mean Lee Hazlewood? It also mentions the
audience showing their approval through silence. There is a picture of
Isobel adjusting her panty girdle in the back of a car. It's not Max, 'cos
it's red.

Thanks to Big Dave for the review of Sodastream + Support in Glasgow. That's
the kind of thing this list built its reputation on. Granted Radiohead have
always been major players round here, but there used to be the odd ray of
sunshine. Anyway, I've made a note of all the listees Dave mentioned and
I'll be crossing them off as and when their own reviews come in.

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From brier at xxx.com  Wed Nov 22 09:36:46 2000
From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 01:36:46 -0800
Subject: Sinister: From Tokyo to Soweto, viva la musica pop
Message-ID: <003f01c05467$be7b7320$0101a8c0@pavilion>

Hi Kids (A-Z);

The appropriate soundtrack for this post:  Magnetic Fields, 69 Love Songs
(played at medium volume so as not to wake the sleeping Sinis in our midst).

But appropriate, since the subject of Love has been bandied about on the
list for some days now, either being had / or had and lost / or never had at
all / or crushed.... I've lived through every kind, and continue to, so all
I can say to all those kids currently being put through the love blender is:
Hang in there.  It gets worse.  Much.

"A pretty girl in her underwear.... if there's anything better in this
world, who cares?"

But if you have to get gooey for someone of the opposite sex, if you
absolutely can't resist rubbing your soul against someone else's, if you
insist upon defying all logic and common sense in spilling your heart into
the cup of another, then I would say that this har Sinistuh is a pretty good
place to do it.  For we are the kings and queens of the boudoir, old friend.
We won't hurt you.  We promise.  Try us.

"Reno Dakota, there's not an iota of kindness in you... You know you
enthrall me and yet you don't call me, it's making me blue... Pantone
292..."

Aaaah, to just give up all the worrying, and dive into something unknown and
dangerous and alive, that's what makes us living breathing participants in
this beautiful parade.  Walk down Main Street proud with whatever banner you
carry, or whatever float you guide, or whoever you want to love on your
arm.... the world will follow with cheers, I promise.  The important thing
is courage.  Kiss the angel.  Take the angel by the hand and lead it to the
bedroom, make the angel see God.  If we fail, we've only seen failure.  If
we succeed, OH the things we've seen!

"This too shall pass, so raise your glass to change and chance"

Yes, I'm feeling a little protective of all the ones who are in the process
of having their hearts messed with, it's never right but sometimes it makes
sense.  It's happened to all of us old souls at least a dozen times; I know
that doesn't help, but it's the truth, yeah us old souls can tell you that
it'll be okay, but I guess you hafta find out for yourself.... but
really.... enjoy your despairing confusion, because at least you have that.
There are empty shell-souls that would give anything just to feel such
torment.  So a rush and a push and praise to your angst.

"So many beautiful parades go by, and I don't mind."

List-content:  Llaura Llew is feeling just ideal, she told me so.  Her
horoscope was nearly perfect.  Joan is still Of Dark, but showered in light.
And List-Dominatrix Lisa has gone blind, but has 20/20 vision.

That's all, get me out of this clip-joint, gawd,

B. to the R. to the I. to the E. to the R.
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From banchorymerchandise.uk at xxx.net  Wed Nov 22 12:13:19 2000
From: banchorymerchandise.uk at xxx.net (Katrina House)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:13:19 -0000
Subject: Sinister: auction stuff
Message-ID: <051001c0547d$9a6c2e00$65eea8c2@katrina>

hello people,

as you know, the talent auction has now finished - thanks to everyone who
offered
their talents and those who bid too.  if you were a successful bidder in the
auction, you can pay for your 'lot' online by visiting
http://www.myspace.co.uk/belleandsebastian/auction.html however, if you were
outbid at the last minute - like i was :( - then you can also make a
donation to the charities we were raising for by following the same link.

also, finally managed to get the 'legal man' and 'fold your hands...'
posters online and there's a new t-shirt in the shop too.  gentle waves
merchie will be online by the end of the week too - www.banchory.net

cheers,
katrina @ banchory.


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From shop at xxx.net  Wed Nov 22 12:11:04 2000
From: shop at xxx.net (Katrina House)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:11:04 -0000
Subject: Sinister: auction etc.
Message-ID: <050001c0547d$6cfae100$65eea8c2@katrina>

hello people,

as you know, the talent auction has now finished - thanks to everyone who
offered
their talents and those who bid too.  if you were a successful bidder in the
auction, you can pay for your 'lot' online by visiting
http://www.myspace.co.uk/belleandsebastian/auction.html however, if you were
outbid at the last minute - like i was :( - then you can also make a
donation to the charities we were raising for by following the same link.

also, finally managed to get the 'legal man' and 'fold your hands...'
posters online and there's a new t-shirt in the shop too.  gentle waves
merchie will be online by the end of the week too - www.banchory.net

cheers,
katrina @ banchory.


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From lixibell at xxx.com  Wed Nov 22 14:20:31 2000
From: lixibell at xxx.com (alix campbell)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:20:31 -0000
Subject: Sinister: i don't like these people
Message-ID: <F77Z2K4xDh9vXsFFsAi00001a32@hotmail.com>

hullo

just so that mr miller doesn't hunt me down and kill me, here's my review of 
sodastream. it's going to be brutal, yet not to the point. i enjoyed darren 
hanlon's set a lot. it reminded me of home and away. when sodastream came 
on, i realised i was bored and instead spent some time lurking outside the 
gents. sodastream didn't butter my croissant. i'm sure had i been in the 
mood it would have been lovely. i do have a soft spot for australians after 
all. for many people the combination of neighbours and home and away were 
incredibly formative. you get in from school, it's 5pm and you've got an 
hour of antipodean viewing delights. add the joy of eastenders and you have 
a song. it's to the tune of 'go tell it on the mountain' and i'm sure you 
all know it well.

i'm unsure when i last posted. frankly, i don't really care. weblogs have 
been obsessing me. or rather, the mystery that is HTML. also, with a blog 
you can put superbly mundane things up and feel no remorse. and i do.

mobile phones. i don't like them. if you send me your unwanted phones i will 
dispose of them and your life will be better. it's like showers and baths, 
you know?

now, i've spent at least 15 minutes on this, it's still pitiable, and i 
still can't think of anything to say.

if anyone knows how i can rent a barge, would they mail me please. 
seriously.

lixi.xx






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From lucyalder at xxx.com  Wed Nov 22 14:32:59 2000
From: lucyalder at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucy=20Alder?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 06:32:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister:  Dandelion and burdock
Message-ID: <20001122143259.6251.qmail@web1607.mail.yahoo.com>

Goodness me, it's nearly a fortnight since I posted but I thought I'd hang
on a bit because blimey! it went bonkers yesterday, didn't it?

Oooh, I do like that new T-shirt on the B&S website.  I presume B.S.
stands for Belle & Sebastian but what about the P.D. -  Pixie Dancers? 
Pished and Dangerous?  Please Do (tour next year)?  

There's another thing on the B&S website which nobody's mentioned yet,
just under the bit urging you to watch Roswell if you'd like to hear a
familiar tune, which says that Struan has sung on the new Future Pilot AKA
album and it's a song called Om Namah Shivayah.  Is he going all George
Harrison on us?  And who on earth are/is Future Pilot AKA?  Should I know
this?  Am I embarrassing myself by asking?

There ends my content for the day.  On to the usual load of rubbish...

I had a really weird old dream last night.  I bunjee jumped off the top of
the White House, right down the front of the building.  Amazingly, I
didn't crash into the portico and knock myself senseless - I bounced
around for a while, then watched from the ground as the person after me
had a go.  Their bunjee rope snapped and they ended up looking like a lump
of strawberry jam on the floor.  Unpurturbed by this trauma, I stepped
inside the White House and found a hall full of people dancing in the
Northern Soul style to the Tiffany version of I Think We're Alone Now. 
They were all very cool and extremely good dancers and they were all
wearing those white, knee-high socks with holes in them like I used to
wear to school.  I found I was wearing the same socks, so I pulled them up
and hit the dance floor, but I was wearing trainers with really strong
grips so I couldn't spin and I felt really stupid.  I looked down and my
socks were in tatters.  Then my alarm went off.  Who wants to analyse that
for me?  Bunjee jumping and Tiffany aren't in my dream dictionary.

I notice a certain member of this list has been reviewing Sodastream
albums on Amazon :)  Speaking of which, Sodastream were darn good on
Saturday night.  I only wish I had the gumption of the venerable Moore and
taken the day off to catch them in Glasgow as well.  However, the gig at
the Betsey had to do and, indeed, it did quite adequately.  Wedding Day is
the one that makes me well up every time and it started perfectly. 
Unfortunately, a woman with the voice of a VERY LOUD CHIPMUNK then decided
to chatter ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT.  Ms. Daplyn's offer to perform an
emergency tracheotomy on the chipmunk with the help of her penknife (don't
they frisk people going into clubs these days?) was very nearly accepted. 
Thankfully, a few dangerous glares were enough to scare her away.  I do a
good glare.

Are the London lot seeing the Gentle Waves on the 2nd?  Do you think we
should heckle?

Juicy Lucy

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From Sally_Moore at xxx.uk  Wed Nov 22 14:42:57 2000
From: Sally_Moore at xxx.uk (Sally_Moore at xxx.uk)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:42:57 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Jacqui Dixon loves B&S!
Message-ID: <0025699F.0050B19D.00@mailgate.mandg.co.uk>

Dear all,

I am a bit scared about this posting lark, I have content though which must
be a good start.

Did anyone see Brookside last night? If you didn't, more fool you. Some of
the trendy kids were having a dinner party and they were playing The boy
with the Arab Strap in the background. It gets better though, they were
talking about kids TV and one of them said their favourite childhood
programme was Belle and Sebastian. To which Jacqui Dixon replied something
along the lines of 'Great band, crap programme'. I thought it was pretty
cool but that's probably because I love Brookside.

I thought I would also add my bit about Saturday night, Sodastream were
brilliant. I was quite relieved when they stopped playing though, otherwise
I might have cried. Such nice young men too....
And there were loads of lovely sinister peeps there too, what more could
you ask for?

I think that's all,
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From oooon at xxx.com  Wed Nov 22 15:41:04 2000
From: oooon at xxx.com (oooon)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:41:04 +0700
Subject: Sinister: November's Gales Have Blown The Colour From The Sky
References: <000301c053f9$629d1e00$9a1c073e@default>
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hello everyone,

especially to David!   wow!  i wish people who go to
nice events can tell it with a lot of detail like you did.  of course,
some of you do, but never often enough for me.  which is
of course my fault to be curious about what other people do
in their lives.  if they do something interesting, that is.  ]
i'm sooooo impressed!   this is definitely not midlife crisis. if it is,
everyone will want to have one.  it is such a wonderful thing
to just get up and hop on the car and drive wherever you
want to go no matter where it is,no need plan ahead.
if i can drive, which i will soon, it will be a change of
lifestyle to be able to drive isn't it.  how i'd love to go driving
alone like that for hours.  especially to such a beautiful
gloomy place like glasgow to see lovely music in a church
and all the good people there.  i'm glad you get back fine
and sure this will be one of the fun of a lifetime.  i've been
awfully busy lately. and got ill again and again.
it's tiresome to even think about it.  so it kind of pushs
me to do thing i won't normally do to see if things wil get
better in any way.  one of the things was also a journey,
only to the pasts.  apparently i was originally a huge white
elephant (which i'm very pleased about!).  i do feel, contrary
to what i actually am, like i'm a big person sometime and like
to look at the world from a big person eyes.  and no,
the journey wasn't spurred by drug of any kind.  just
straight and simple meditation and such like.  one good
point  was that the reader was correct to say i always
have bond with music, that my pasts being the kings' servants
in the entertaining duty, whatever the english word is..singer/
dancer/actor something like that.

um anyone who might somehow interested to learn more
details and gossips about my past lives or past lives in general
is welcome to ask me later.  it's long long story.  don't know
how much i believe, but it's good fun anyway.  not that it's
meant to be "fun".  the reason is to find the way to apologize
to what i'd done wrong and ask for forgiveness by doing
good deed, as asked.  but still, it's like listening to good
stories!  even more fun is because it's all about me.  and
i always love dreaming to be some other people and live
their lives, how it is like, stuff like that.  and my lives are
relatively nice too.  unlike some other people who apparently
were a worm or some other not so nice looking being.
but who is to say that a worm doesn't have nice soul
and exciting lifetime and experiences.  they might have
more fun than human can ever comprehend.  i seriously
was just going to commend on Mr. Moore fun trip.  it's
just too easy to come back to my own story everytime.
i don't have much news from Thailand, haven't read
newspaper for a long time.  will family news do?
my father just went to Beijing.  he said it's snowing!
i'm impressed.  i do have vague idea it gets very
cold in China but i thought it's just the Mongolian
mountain or something.  i asked him to get me a lots
of karaoke cd.  guess what he bought me.....
nirvana album. karaoke version. sigh.  anyone want
it?  i would give it to my niece to play with but it
might do her harm.  he also bought a pile of other
karaoke love songs collection cd which turn out to
contain mostly the same songs again and again.
and the same as the pile he bought me last time.
and last time he didn't go to Beijing.  from the above
facts, i can only conclude that there's not much choices
of english karaoke cd in Mainland China.  can't be that
my luck is that bad.

Alix, i'm raising my hand to your question!  i know where
to rent a barge, that is a boat, yes?  there's loads around
here.  what do you need it for by the way?  a barge is
Bangkok may not serve your purpose. i just want to
show my willingness to cooperate.

today i did not go to work due to knee injury, and
there's a big surprise in the mail!  a new york cow parade
book from Saint Michelle!  i can't say how pleased i am
with that.  and how pleased my niece is too.  we have
much fun over all the cow pictures Pair really likes it.
i did saw it when i was in NY but i was broke and it'd
be heavy to carry home.  and was a bit regret when
i came home not to buy.  Michelle, i think i shall enhance
your status in my heart from Saint to Angel.  Thank you so much!
speaking of which, i just watched Dogma the other day
it's very funny even to me who hardly know the bible.
i now intend to read it when i have time, seems like a good
and exciting story the bible is.  i also saw Crouching Tiger
Hidden Dragon.  China never looks so beautiful.  and
not bad fighting action on screen too.  chinese old martial
fight usual looks bad when made into screen image but
i hope with new technics someone will be able to make
it as nearly spectacular as it is in my head.  OH!  i have
one Thai news!  we just had the second Bangkok Fashion
Week.  not that i know anything about it being tied up
with unpleasant things of life for so long.  but it's showing
on FTV which some country have i guess.  and looks quite
good.  also, if any of you see Spiller's vdo "Groove Jet (if
it aint love)" something.  with the gorgeous girl from
theaudience (i think)  it's filmed in my town!  not much to
see about the town but the girl is absolutely gorgeous.
and the guy is amazing tall.

aren't you glad i don't post very often  : )

love,
oon xxx


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From llu at xxx.edu  Wed Nov 22 16:06:15 2000
From: llu at xxx.edu (Liqin Lu)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:06:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: November's Gales Have Blown The Colour From The Sky
In-Reply-To: <3A1BE910.40D48199@cscoms.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0011221059250.7492-100000@puma.middlebury.edu>

> my father just went to Beijing.  he said it's snowing!
> i'm impressed.  i do have vague idea it gets very
> cold in China but i thought it's just the Mongolian
> mountain or something.  

just the northern part or places high up in the mountains, remember china
is huge, it never snows in southeast china where i am from.

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From banchorymerchandise.uk at xxx.net  Wed Nov 22 15:25:12 2000
From: banchorymerchandise.uk at xxx.net (Katrina House)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:25:12 -0000
Subject: Sinister: sodastream
Message-ID: <003e01c054a0$7a357c40$0542a8c2@katrina>

this is to appease mr miller + to apologies for the double posting re the
auction ... sorry!

sodastream were amazing - probably the only band who move me to tears
anymore - 'hope grocery' is my welling up track but i pretty much managed to
blub all the way through their friday night set.  couldn't figure out
whether it was homesickness - remembering seeing thermos cardy in perth 'all
those years ago' - or if they're just the most emotive band i know. probably
a mix of both.  oh well.

right, is that ok?  i'm off to remain aloof and professional and distant
until i next have news for you all.

katrina.

p.s. - tgw were great on sunday - bill wells was even better though - london
listees, get ther early if you're off to the gigs - more moving music.


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From geo433 at xxx.uk  Wed Nov 22 17:41:08 2000
From: geo433 at xxx.uk (Neil Iain McGilp)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:41:08 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Cheese, Tomato, Ham, Pineapple, Heroin
Message-ID: <SIMEON.10011221708.A@fac1.geog.abdn.ac.uk>


Hey folks,
Following a personal silence of several aeons this 
afternoon I felt strangely compelled to share some of the 
random gibberish currently cluttering up my tired little 
mind.

***B&S Content***

B&S's infiltration of the mainstream continues apace. 
Following on from their appearance on Roswell (which I 
never saw, I find the whole genre of American teen TV 
highly disconcerting; these kids are far too 
well-scrubbed and attractive and mature(not to mention 
verbose. My vocabulary at the age of fourteen consisted of 
a series of embarrassed stammers and grunts) unless the 
whole of the U.S. has an entirely zit-free adolesence, 
(which I guess is possible) they lack even the slightest 
relation to real life (I had a memorable falling out with 
an ex-girlfriend (and Dawson's Creek fan) over this)), B&S 
cropped up on Brookside (of all places) the other night 
(Note: For those of you not in the know "Brookie" is an 
admirably absurd soap opera set in Liverpool.) During a 
typical soap opera dinner party Jacqui Dixon (upwardly 
mobile twenty-something, jilted at altar, sold child for 
cash) was heard to describe Belle and Sebastian as "crap 
programme, great band" (or words to that effect) more 
alarmingly yet "The Boy With The Arab Strap" was audible in 
the background (although it was subsequently replaced by 
"Love is All Around" by Wet Wet Wet. Take from that what 
you will).

***More Close Encounters of the B&S Kind***

As if that wasn't peculiar enough, I recently sighted B&S 
posters on the wall at an incredibly strange, druggy party 
in Aberdeen, where I was repeatedly accosted by a very 
excitable Frenchman, an ageing hippy and a guy who was 
trying to organise Aberdeen's first Lesbian, Gay and 
Bisexual football team (they were the only three people 
there still capable of speech). In the background the DJ 
was playing Alice Deejay. The joys of living in a 
(relative) backwater.

***Wantin' Yer Ba's Bootit?***

I've been quite shocked/amused by the reaction of various 
listees to the West of Scotland's ned problem, (re. Jen 
getting whacked in the head). They're pretty much endemic 
to the area (I should know, I'm from Hamilton, and hence 
inevitably have occaisionally been subjected to acts of 
"nedism") and they would actually be funny if they weren't 
such evil wee shites.
For example, my all time favourite piece 
of ned dialogue:
(Scene: Ned in standard uniform (Greasy hair, Kappa tracky 
("Pure mintit, chief"), Rangers or Celtic shirt (delete 
where applicable), is attempting to extort cash from 
unfortunate victim. Cue Brave interloper:
Brave interloper: "Leave him alone!"
Ned (threateningly (and in all seriousness), to Brave 
Interloper): "Wantin me tae leave YOU alane?" 
I guess you had to be there at the time.
Cheers,
Iain McG.



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From hamibe02 at xxx.edu  Wed Nov 22 20:38:16 2000
From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:38:16 -0500
Subject: Sinister: kiss me rapidly
Message-ID: <002d01c054c4$280ae620$ddd590cf@woody>

cold listees:

ok i am really really sorry about my post last night.
i decided to re-sub (yet again) to the list and was feeling fairly lucid.
i'm afraid i said way too much.  i feel very exposed and really naked (now
all you older listees remember (unjoyfully) me and the new listees (too,
unjoyfully) despise me.  oh, woe is me.

my cat (a long haired persian)'s hair got shaved; he looks rather silly.

i will report that i saw the who 5 times over the summer.  they are just
great, as you could probably guess, i'm obsessed and need to stop.  there
just aren't a lot of crossover b&s/who fans.  i think i'm an animal.

happy turkey day to everyone and....

a question: if i'm sitting on a bench in the music building (of my
university) with my bass, waiting for my lesson and a really really cute
girl comes by (the bench is right next to the ladies' room, nice huh?) and
starts to ask me questions (with a smile, ohh doctor) about my lesson, and
my guitar, is she hitting on me?  sometimes i just can't tell.

some words someone once told me seem to be warranted here:

"don't let her get away.  then you will regret a lot.  and that wouldn't be
good.  right?"


does everyone have gybe's new album?  if not, please get it, it is amazing!

blake
the nerdy shy-eyed pacifist

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From jiffy_popper at xxx.com  Thu Nov 23 02:59:54 2000
From: jiffy_popper at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 21:59:54 -0500
Subject: Sinister: I would like you in a long black leash, I would parade you down the street.
Message-ID: <F252StMVhEUsebmspH200002750@hotmail.com>

David Moore is making me drool. Cruising down the highway with some tunes in 
the sunshine! Did you sing along at the top of your lungs? Lovely music and 
Mistopher Chris..sleeping over at Micks and a spotting of Keith Watson. Is 
anyone else excited? Princess Honey got stroked (I think she has been 
neglecting walking around with a book on her head and thinking about 
boyosity instead)AND...

>Struan? White trousers, black polo neck jumper

I'm sorry, my poast is very stilted. It should be all flowing, and organic, 
but I am half-reading King Lear ("Out,vile jelly!")because  this fun talk is 
distracting me. My head is in the clouds, I think someone doped up my 
cranberry juice, because everything is making me feel silly and giggly!  And 
theres P.R. and the promise of mouthwatering raspberry jam and I dream of 
teeth marks.

And I'm feeling nostalgic and frustrated for lack for Stuart David, and his 
particular aroma of sinful farmhand.

Tell me about some new music. I'm feeling so left behind. Who is Granddaddy? 
I keep seeing little mentions of them on here. That is the One With The 
Tuque, right?

A certain boy was telling me him & his friends used to call girls who wore 
tight pants 'camel toes'. Rudeness! I am wondering where in the world it is 
used to today.

Ha!

yummm..... genevieve
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From idleberry at xxx.com  Thu Nov 23 13:03:53 2000
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 05:03:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Posters, sodastream and candle burning
Message-ID: <20001123130353.20908.qmail@web616.mail.yahoo.com>

Oooh! I wanted to go to the sodastream gig in Glasgow,
but boyfriend was working early the next morning, so I
had nobody to go with. How pants is that? Ah well. Got
an early night instead. Not quite as much fun, but
nevermind. 
I am continuing the poster campaign today to get
people to join my.. erm.. I mean Adams and mine uni
society thing for daft indie kids who want to meet
other indie kids and seduce them. I shall play cupid.
Have been busy designing posters last night, while
sitting on the phone for hours to a friend who is
going through some rough times with the subject of
love. Sat like a wierdo cutting out magazine things
with band names on them with a knife. Made a nice
collage, and yes, I did remember to plaster belle and
sebastains name all over the thing. Also added some
other cool bands, as well as tyhe usual ones: blur
(ahem) and All those lot. Despite having a little bit
better taste, the union rules sauy we can't
descriminate against anyone, and I guess that includes
Embrace fans. Still, when Adam and I are at the head
of the realm of our little kingdom and legion of indie
kids, we shall "encourage" them to listen to something
a little more, well, better. Unless they already have
good taste, in which case we shall commend them
highly. :) It is a democracy, but even democracies are
prejudice towards good music. But this time, rather
than spend, what, about 8 hours plastering the uni
with posters, breaking into peoples kitchens (which
took forever.. plus first year UEA students smell) we
are going to focus on the main part of central campus.
And rather than invest in lots and lots of cool little
flyers, we shall go for nice BIG BRIGHT COLOURFUL
posters. The ones I designed last night should do the
trick nicely. 
Didn't do the things I have to do.. ie. write my 5000
word dissertation. In Norwegian. Have it in English so
far, but thats not good enough. Need to hand it in
very soon... next two weeks I think. Yes, I am burning
the candle at both ends, but this is how I work best.
Stress is good for me. Anyway, I'm off to meet Adam in
the cafe for a chat.
Later!
Love
Idles
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From little_miss_pixie at xxx.com  Thu Nov 23 13:27:28 2000
From: little_miss_pixie at xxx.com (superfurrygrrrrl .)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 13:27:28 -0000
Subject: Sinister: we will always be dismayed, it will only ever be okay.
Message-ID: <F87QT456UnHAaaz7EjQ0000285c@hotmail.com>

OI SINISTER!

hiya. hello twee bunny :) i may have found the furry joke funny but i get 
that every time i go into a chat room. ITS THE SUPER FURRY ANIMALS DAMN IT!! 
you filthy minded people hehe. but to answer your question, all my hair is 
present and not uncorrect. draw from that what you will :, .

*is listening to the lovingly surreal 'introducing the gorky's' *

im inclined to praise above band (again) for pages but ill try and restrain 
myself. *grits teeth*

erm, i had loads to say and now its all gone in a cloud of smoke.

*thinks*

"and one day you will find her sleeping , oh, on the dune
and beneath the august sun your song will come true, ooh, ooh"

yeah, wow, what happpened to the world over the past two days to make us all 
so down/mad/heartbroken/cynical... well, i've given up on love and eternal 
happiness and trying to forget that we are all greedy ugly people.... unless 
someone is out there that wants to prove me wrong?? ugly people that *can* 
be so beautiful however. the things we can do, the eloquent noise better 
known as music that we can make. im becoming a bit boring i think and 
articulate expression of depression is not something im good at. *puts on 
mask*

"and the star you fell in love to, came out on christmas eve"

christmas?? well i loved it when i was a child, although i suppose my mother 
wasnt so cheerful in the festive season, and although my favourite part was 
opening the presents my memories of it now are a little nicer. because i 
remember the first time i learnt to sing in harmony with our ickle kids 
gaelic choir, and we sang silent night in gaidhlig to our parents and 
teachers on the last day of school, and singing in harmony when you didnt 
realise you could do  is... really nice. and we all thought we were the bees 
knees because we thought "the englishes (our school had an english unit and 
a gaelic unit, very segregated unfortunately :( ) had never done it before 
and we sounded much better than them"...... yes arent kids charming!!  and 
then i remember sitting in macdonalds and looking at the new lights they put 
up. thats it.

sinister:" what a waste of bloody time, next post..."

ive gone and brought myself down now.

"it was soon that i started dreaming, all my friends would laugh at me, no 
hermit girl like she, could fall in love with me"

my aims in life for today are to marry euros childs. but i am fickle, my 
choice of husband will change with the next record, or the next scrumptious 
indie kid that walks down the street, *sigh* *thinks of one in particular*


i want to make a personal apologie to lambchop. because i imagine they read 
this all the time. you see, i mentioned a band called nixon i dreamed about. 
but i lied. that was the name of the album. i fear for my memory these days. 
but anyways, lambchop from the bottom of my pencil case, SORRY.


*cries at a melancholy bit in c.d*

some b and s content.......

"so if you are feeling sinister go off and see a minister the chances are 
you'd probably feel better if you stayed and played with yourself."

its lines like that that brighten my day, hee hee.

oh well i think i'll leave you all at that. byebye

lots of love and big headphones that keep your ears warm in the winter but 
maybe thats because you're ears are burning when the neds are laughing at 
your choice of headgear, hehe.

ahem, sarah xxxxx

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From cbrown2 at xxx.com  Thu Nov 23 14:01:03 2000
From: cbrown2 at xxx.com (cbrown2 at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 14:01:03 +0000
Subject: Sinister: And one for his knob*
Message-ID: <862569A0.004D0817.00@em-stpmta-01.mmm.com>



Good afternoon poptarts

I have been called and despite being rather late (I was in my homeland, a land
where beer is only one pound for a pint and the air is clear enough to see
shooting stars aaahhhhh) I shall respond, Sodastream, they were bloody lovely,
I?d not seen them before and didn?t know what to expect to be honest, but I came
away happy and gladdened (and just a little saddened, it?s ?done with
everything? that gets me every time).  They managed to fill the room with the
deep deep bass and fragile singing and I was pretty darn impressed.  Bad bits?
The aforementioned chipmunk sisters behind the bar (an emergency tracheotomy
would have been too nice for them) and that was about it, apart from my beloved
Spireites being knocked out of the cup at the first hurdle ?.again (but that?s
not exactly related).

Anyway, five hgours sleep later and I?m braving the perils that is the rail
infrastructure of our brave land, what a bunch of crap eh?  Four and a half
hours to do a journey that takes 2 and being cramped up in one of those horrible
little sprinters, with no batteries for my walkman and the last few pages of my
book and no paper to read cos they couldn?t be arsed to open the kiosk at St
Pancras before nine in the morning aaaarrrrgggghhh  sorry, rant over.

Mind you once up there it was worth it, cheap beer and fresh air as opposed to
overpriced fizz and smog was a very refreshing change, I got to see my Mum and
sister, some of my old friends and generally chill out, it almost made me want
to leave London.

Someone mentioned Grandaddy, they?re ace,  I?d say that they?re in the mercury
rev, flaming lips (not that good but you know what I mean?.I hope), Scott 4 sort
of mould, not only that, I?m going to see them on Wednesday and they?re on the
Jeepster Christmas album with a lovely little ditty about Alan Parsons (who he?
Producer type fellow?)

Of course also on said Album is Belle & Seb?s version of O come O come Emmanuel,
to me it sounded like a nice enough version of an old Carol, ,my Mum, however
proclaimed it lovely and proceeded to sing along with gusto while we were
driving round the Peak district on Tuesday.  So there you go, it has Mummy
Brown?s seal of approval so it must be good.

That?s got to be about it for me, my posts are usually short grovelling letters
for missed sessions, not this type of thing at all, must have been the fresh air


Toodle pip my pretties

Chrisx

PS don?t forget to vote in Uncle Peelies festive 50, there?s a form on the radio
1 website
*no innuendo intended, just too many games of crib in the pub


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From mod4real at xxx.com  Thu Nov 23 15:51:27 2000
From: mod4real at xxx.com (Chan Toby)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 07:51:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Life In Porno
Message-ID: <20001123155127.34607.qmail@web9204.mail.yahoo.com>

dear people


<movies>
finally i ve got High Fidelity!

but it is in VCD, u know, some crappy format...
it just cost 40 Hong Kong $ (3quid).
and also "Face".

High Fidelity is okay... not as good as the book.
I just ve watched 3/4 of "Face" then go out for
a cup of Irish Coffee.... good drink in this kinda
weather...

I love the line "Never even point a gun to the 
people u work with!".... It is almost as cool
as "Are u talking to me?"

HiFi is okay... but they change some important
things... Like the locale is the state, not
UK... the Party scene (happy ending) is awlful!!

<Books>
I wanna get "No Logo" but the damn huge old
english book store peope ve never heard of it.
and the "posh" book store "page one" get not enough
copies.....

<b n s content>
I love the Gentle Wave album... the song Sisterwoman
is a bit "Dylan".... funny...

And I ve got a 7" in a record store..
the band is called "tugboat"
it is nice!


Toby C


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From prbar at xxx.com  Thu Nov 23 17:57:49 2000
From: prbar at xxx.com (Phillip Runion)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 17:57:49 
Subject: Sinister: to be read in the manner of Homer: teeth marks . . .uuhhuh
Message-ID: <F97vfPAZScXrbw8b9ez00002a8f@hotmail.com>

dear list,
   i am just wondering how dearest Genevieve expected me to sleep last 
night, what with all that talk of teeth marks. i am sometimes a very 
impressionable boy, and oh! the impressions i would like to make with my 
teeth. i can not think properly, my head is awash with thoughts of fronts 
and bottoms, incisors and canines, and molars.

does this mean i have to send pictures of my teeth? well, at least i don't 
have any fillings. all 97% tooth here, with the occasional trace of plaque. 
my gums are healthy.

They tore down the old rollercoaster at Coney Island last week. Everyone 
with GYBE, play track one on disc two and weep. They don't sleep on the 
beach anymore.

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From JENOWL22 at xxx.com  Thu Nov 23 20:07:24 2000
From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 15:07:24 EST
Subject: Sinister: An avenging angel's arrow in his heart...
Message-ID: <a1.d746cf2.274ed2fc@aol.com>

Hewwo,

Well, I was having an ok week. I'd been doing ok in the pre-prelim tests (why 
do they do that? What's the point in giving you preliminary exams for 
preliminary exams) because there was only one I didn't get full marks for, 
which means maybe I'll lay off the 'i'm going to fail' complex for a few 
minutes, and I'd got my report card, which was ok, except for the part about 
me worrying too much, and said I should stop having fist fights with Debs, 
even though if she punches me till I scream, smashes me over the head with a 
box and then throws me across the desk, breaking several objects in the 
process, it's not really my fault anyway. And I didn't mean to insult her 
religion, and it's not even her real religion, she just pretends to be a 
mormon. Besides she said that she was my mother and that she was going to 
convert me to Judaism, so that she could start the new holocaust and watch me 
suffer and die, and I said 'well wouldn't it be simpler just to shoot me you 
nazi mormon moke', and she laid into me. But she's my bestest friend in the 
whole wide world really. She just beats me up a lot.

Elses. Guess what I did today. Well, as you know, hard kids and chemistry do 
not mix, and we have a really dopey chemistry teacher, who doesn't understand 
that if you do not lock the store cupboard then the hard kids will get in and 
find the dangerous stuff and throw it at certain people (me), which will make 
their blouse and skirt start to fizz and eat away in places. 

And on the theme of clothing and bad things happening to it, hard kids should 
not learn how to fly kick, because this will mean that they want to try it 
out, and not there's a big muddy footprint on the back of my B*S tv show 
teeshirt, and my back hurts quite a bit. But I was cunning. I told him he was 
a big fat moke and I hoped he died, then I was going to frown at him, but 
instead I sort of cried, which he thought was really funny.

I like Inkubus Sukkubus. I don't care if they're metal (even though they're 
not proper metal). I like them. I'm a rebel. I eat hard kids for breakfast, 
and stuff. Or maybe not...

I've been listening to TWATTYBUS a lot recently. It gives me butterflies at 
the good bits, like in Sleep the Clock Around, and Simple Things. I like it, 
but it's best to listen to it on a walkman (because I have it on tape, and 
its all green and play-dohy looking much better than new fangled CD's rah) 
because all the sounds are shut in in your head, and you hear it just for 
you, and it's special.

Oh and i wrote a song for sinister. It's all about how grate sinister is.

Hugs,
Jen
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From pcxas at xxx.uk  Fri Nov 24 11:59:08 2000
From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:59:08 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0011241051310.18192-100000@granby.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>



Definitely,middle-middle age is the best time to put forward a crisis as
excuse and hit the road for fun.Your children are grown up and don't
really need you anymore,unless they want to exploit you as unpaid
chauffeur, and concerning your love life you are :

a)Divorced
b)Your satisfactory,long-term relationship with your spouse makes this one
pretty confident that your emotional and physical ramblings up and down
the ill-fated communications system of the UK are not eventually leading
you to some new arms.Also he/she might consider that at this stage, it is
unlikely you will find anything better that what you've got at home...

Dave's last weekend has become a sort of street-wise campaign to encourage
all of us to take into middle-age too and give up any defense of
past/present/future wild youth lifestyle.I am sure that Naomi Klein will
uncover some nasty big co. funding his activities to achieve their goal of
promoting the highly-paid,highly-consuming baby-boomers are still the
cool ones,despite their enthroning very long ago consummated in such a
position.And I thought cool was a very volatile state of matter.  

Trying to palliate my ignorance of Sodastream delicacies, I struggled to
stay awake and enjoy their Peel Session, though I only got to listen to a
couple of songs and found them,right,delicate and enjoyable but did not
struck me as magic in this first go.Sure it is a grower, some quote that
used to populate this list very often some time ago.Grandaddy Peel brought
me home some surprise fancy bits, Cinerama last single b-side and the
House of Love.Mmmmm.If you want to start a life in the weblogs, where do
you have to go? where do you apply? Is it like 'Castaways' but all wired
and networked? The 'weblogs' inspire something woodlandish in myself,no
idea why.


Love

Arantxa






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From boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com  Fri Nov 24 12:20:05 2000
From: boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com (Desmond Torpey)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 04:20:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: argh!.......new person....be gentle.....
Message-ID: <20001124122005.29431.qmail@web1607.mail.yahoo.com>

rah!..i hope i'm doing this right...accept my
apologies if this message appears twenty times in your
inboxes....as you may have gathered, i am the new boy
in the class so please let me join in your fun at
breaktime and dont put plasticine in my hair....i can
never get that stuff out.....
 Judging by your posts and dropping into the chatroom
occasionally, you all seem like a luvely bunch of
people.....I would say that i wished more peeps like
you lived in my town but i wouldnt wish that on
anyone....its a HELLHOLE...... I'm stuck in Swindon,
the most pathetic town in the world (why did i feel
the need to give it a capital letter? some kind of
deep rooted pyschological love? hmmmmmm).....If you
dont wear loafers and have a big mouth then its hard
to survive......i think i've made it this far by
hiding under my bedclothes a lot.....
 i sort of gatherd that i should put some kind of b+s
related content in the posts (which is
understandable)..I'll just say that i think theyre the
most fantastically wonderful band in the world has
ever seen. If 'put the book back on the shelf' and
'belle and sebastian' were piped through loudspeakers
on every street corner...the world would be a nicer
place.....
 Just to show my dedication i am typing this in agony
this morning....last night i rather foolishly (and i
admit, tipsily) attempted to do a tightrope walk on a
very wet,very slippy metal bar the size of a piece of
dental floss....i crashed to earth in a spectacular
and painful fashion and am now nursing a bruised and
injured ankle...was sympathy forthcoming from my
freinds? oh no! only mocking laughter....sob....
 Thats it for now....hope i havent bored you too
much...i'll keep reading the posts and whisper
something myself from time to time....i'm off to put
frozen chips on my ankle and have a snooze before i go
and catch my lunch over the rolling hills.....come ere
sandwich! i dont wanna hurt you! i just wanna nibble
yer crusts!......rah!
tata....
 

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From anna_t5 at xxx.com  Sat Nov 25 08:08:04 2000
From: anna_t5 at xxx.com (anna tucker)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 08:08:04 
Subject: No subject
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From gogron at xxx.uk  Sat Nov 25 12:11:49 2000
From: gogron at xxx.uk (gogron)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 12:11:49 +0000
Subject: Sinister: rambling over sinister hills
Message-ID: <3A1FAC85.D166D80C@netscapeonline.co.uk>

hello

given the fact that I like everyone I've met in sinister, chat and mail,
and given the fact that I seem to be particularly unhinged at the
moment, I'm not sure if discretion would be the better part of valour or
not.
Can I describe things, anything, objectively? the answer to that has to
be no... not that I ever could but there are degrees.
It is saturday morning.
CONTENT
yup, that's why I started the 'new message' function
I met the guy who's doing the illustrations to the Belle and Sebastian
book of song lyrics the other night.
He doesn't seem to have started them.
He's assembling a collection of photos of members of the band.
But he seems genuinely interested in doing an interpretation of the
lyrics.
Given the fact that, in Scotland, at least (sorry Scarlit, he's no
Hussein Chalyan :)) he's a titanic literary figure, that's a compliment
of sorts.

Keep on rocking, baby, till the night has gone, sings Abba

Well, the night has gone, but the light is unwelcome... Bram Stoker
makes more sense all the time.. the fact vampires are a mythology, not
just a story.

And JenOwl, are you real?

Or am I missing something.

if I don't press send now I never will

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From kgirton at xxx.com  Sat Nov 25 21:20:22 2000
From: kgirton at xxx.com (Kim)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 16:20:22 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: My first hello; little content of importance...
Message-ID: <384016964.975187223364.JavaMail.root@web444-ec.mail.com>

For everyone who wants to skim the rambling...

Of course the best thing that has happened to me in the past six months was stumbling upon this magical mailing list - and I abhor mailing lists as a general rule. So I want to say thank you to everyone who keep this rambling conversation going, despite its tendency to meander (though I could argue that a journey's not reaching its full potential without a bit of meandering... I could also argue that stream-of-consciousness writing was highly recommended in my university writing studies, but then I'm arguing a lot and who needs all that arguing?)

This is my first post (so I apologize for the pointlessness... I'm a bit nervous) but I do want to say that I just got back from Europe (ah yes, a Yankee out of water), and I admit that I felt much more at home in London than I ever do here in the states.  I know there's always downfalls to large cities, but for those of us who like to sit alongside brick walls and peoplewatch, London's an amazing place.  I managed to find LPs (something which I have to go to Washington, D.C. for around here, and if I find anything good there, it's only really good luck) of both Painter Jane and Dog on Wheels in a tiny shop in Belgium... Made me insanely happy, which confused my B&S-deprived friends who asked, "Don't you already have all of their albums on CD?"  So if anyone on the east coast of the states knows where I can find B&S LPs, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Anyway, thank you all for the tidbits of new musical info (definitely going to check out what I can of Sodastream).  If it weren't for this list, my musical passions would suffer greatly and sometimes, that's all I have... isn't that the way for most of us?  I'll be looking forward to each digest... Thank you, Sinisterees, for keeping me sane!
Sincerely and with even more sincerity than that,
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From megatherion5 at xxx.com  Sun Nov 26 02:24:51 2000
From: megatherion5 at xxx.com (Jason McKinnon)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 18:24:51 -0800
Subject: Sinister: You're not impressed by me, but it's a funny way for you to tell me...........
Message-ID: <OE22PUS9O4TsvthlfFh0000113a@hotmail.com>

Halo Sinister Seraphim,

Holiday Maladies and Turkey Triptamine Naptimes abound in the land of the
Patty Hearst and Love and Haight. The city sleeps while we clean out closets
looking for somethiing to wear to that damn club we hate.

We take vitamins to shore up our bones and dry our ducts, to keep from
weeping at all this Humanity.

We are more sad when we realize that we are inextricably involved with it.

Maybe, we are IT.

There's this poet I like who describes San Francisco the best:

"Stomping streets stalking.With images of two-headed beasts talking.
Way too much of a bad, bad thing.

She poked a hole in my soul.
Tried to catched the runoff in a gilded friendship bowl.

So I hazard a Duke Boy's Yell, and a musty clothes smell, and walk down the
hill.
So not thinking of her or it or them.

Noticing how slim I've gotten since my deflation,(How good I am at mental
masturbation!)

Now I love clothes as much as the next gal, but I plan to fill them out one
day.
Hollow, invisible outfits stand in darkened dank debutante-packed Basement
clubs.
With Sparkles in their eyes and in their noses.
Paper doll poses.

Like stiff cut-outs giving shout-outs to their "friends".

Conversation so light you could blow it away with a big fat rail.

Running noses bleeding on the "As-is" sale."

You know. A while back I had the same thought that Gogron alluded to in his
last posting. But I wondered the same about the girl who is some kinda
nobile in some Eastern European country. Being a polite boy (and a bit of
smart ass), I have said nothing. Is it important if they are real? Doesn't
it make you wonder what is?

I think I like that thought.

The Pickle Prince

Postscript: Oh yeah.....I'm getting off my ass after a long sabbatical and
starting a new band. (Yay!) If you wanna hear what my old one sounded
like.... go to http://www.listen.com   and search for The Minstrels. I'll
keep you posted on the progress.

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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Sun Nov 26 14:59:05 2000
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:59:05 +0000
Subject: Sinister: Flip the sock around
Message-ID: <200011261454.OAA14694@missprint.org>

Hello,

How are you all?  I am exhausted after a fun packed few days, and 
meeting up with Sinister people galore :)  Went down to London and 
played on a few arcade games, including one very good one that was 
really fun.  Then went for the pub and a very very yummy curry.

I have missed London soooooo much.  I was even walking along the same 
station I were when I was working in the summer.

Then we went back to Nottingham and had a coupld of lectures and then
McDonald's, and then went up to Sheffield for some D_A_N_C_I_N_G which 
was grate, and drank a lot of double vodka and red bull which was also 
grate, and woke up with a big hangover which was not particularly grate.

It was sooo good, thanks to everyone who made my trip so so so so much 
fun. :)))))

Wow, there was quite a few sinister e-mails in the past few days, I was 
tempted to not read them but I've been a good boy and read them all. 
Instead of doing work...

Arrrgh I hate work I wanna do fun things instead like finish recording 
a song and replying to e-mails and fixing my guitar (fun..) and going 
bowling and juggling and drinking red bull.

Arrrgh I hate work.  But I will have to do it now. :( 
Byeeeeeeeeeee.

Work free holidays and Red Bulls
Ken
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From cellophanesky at xxx.com  Sun Nov 26 16:42:31 2000
From: cellophanesky at xxx.com (Brian Pennington)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:42:31 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Struan and Stevie sighting in Noo York
Message-ID: <a05010400b646e2bcac56@[209.244.179.22]>

Salutations,
     I foresee this being a very, very long e-mail, as I was going to 
post anyway, and the events of the yesterday have given me both real 
content and reason to make the post even longer. I'll try to keep 
relevant bits at the top, and you can all delete it as you get bored, 
in a sort of marathon-like post reading.
     Went to the Yo La Tengo / Go-Betweens show last night. Fantastic 
show, in fact the best I've seen since a bunch of Glaswegians hit our 
shores. The Go-Betweens were....well not as good as the time I saw 
McLennan/Forster but still quite excellent. I want to see them doing 
a set without acoustic guitars though, so I think I'll have to go see 
them again when they come back with some Modern Lovers. Anyway, 
seeing them is still fantastic. And heaven is the soft curve of a 
cheek in profile, turned just so, illuminated by pink stagelight. 
Preferably from behind, turned you can see a little dip where the eye 
socket begins, at about eighty feet, then seventy, a little closer 
each song.
     Meanwhile, I finally found Miss Mai in the crowd around the end 
of the Go-Bs set, and learned some interesting news. It seems while 
in line to enter the club she saw Stevie and Struan behind her, and 
starstruck, said hello to them. Then came back and reported to me 
that they were there. So we weaved our way into the crowd to get 
closer, and Mai (who I swear must have Struan Radar or something!) 
noticed we were right next to Struan, looking dapper in a coat and 
leather gloves.
     We broke the ice and chatted with him awhile. I feel I ought not 
to reveal the reason they were in New York, as it sounded rather 
uncomfirmed, and it would betray some sort of pact. However, the 
reason they were at the club was to see the Go-Betweens. It sounded 
(and I couldn't be sure) that they may not ever release Loneliness of 
the Middle Distance Runner. Sadness. And after a fellow Scotsman 
talked to him a bit he said they were aiming to try and tour in the 
Springtime. Surprisingly, not that many people seemed to realize he 
was in our midst. Either that or they were paralyzed with fear. But I 
am not one to let that stop me, and I think I only slightly made an 
ass out of myself. He was certainly very nice and approachable 
though. But left when Yo La Tengo came onstage to look for Stevie.
     But Yo La Tengo were fantastic. They glided just off the ground 
of darkened country roads. They bent slabs of white noise around my 
heart and sent me to giddy euphoric heights. They made the girl with 
the illuminated cheek sway in the most delightful manner. At the 
highest points of epiphanic intensity I felt as though I had never 
really lived until that moment. That my life up to that point had 
been a thousand empty shells interspersed with empty days and nights, 
all building up to this moment. And that if I expired the next 
morning I would have achieved all that was necessary. So, uh, yes 
they were good.
     I suppose that's all the music-related content that will be in 
this post, so if you'd like, press the delete button now. Some of you 
still there? Ah, good. Well my life has been rather interesting 
lately, and I think one could draw parallels between their own and 
mine, so it might be worth sharing a bit to you all.
     You see, I recently moved from the hills of Appalachia to the Big 
City. A rash move, most definately, but I'm at an age when rash moves 
are expected of me. I spent a lot of time alone in a small room 
wondering what I was going to do, but eventually I got it all sorted 
out. Now I feel as if it was the best decision I have ever made. I 
cannot imagine feeling more justified.
     If my life were an 80's teen romance in film, this would be the 
part in which a montage of happy scenes segue from one to the other. 
Sitting on park benches, late at night, talking and laughing, stars 
gleaming, eyes averted. Chance run-ins on subway platforms. 
Suspiciously subsequent chance run-ins on subway platforms. Ought to 
throw some scenes from last night's show in there as well I'm 
certain. Above all, lots of talking, lots of furtive glances, and 
plenty of beer.
     My troubles slide away with phantom grasps too weak to take hold. 
My mind so rarely lingers on the past and so seldom worries about the 
future, firmly planted in the present. It's enough to make the 
confidance creep back out from behind my eyes and sit itself 
comfortably back in my life. Which is probably obvious to the reader, 
else what would possess me to yammer on and on about it? Well, I 
ought to stop here before I get even more dull.

-- 
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From edb213 at xxx.edu  Sun Nov 26 20:19:15 2000
From: edb213 at xxx.edu (eric)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:19:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: yo tengo yo la tengo
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.30.0011221200180.28492-100000@is9.nyu.edu>

hello.
mr. brian pennington's post has inspired me to do the same. lest you all
forgot, he wrote about the yo la tengo show in new york on saturday:
"It seems while
in line to enter the club she saw Stevie and Struan behind her, and
starstruck, said hello to them. Then came back and reported to me
that they were there."
grrrr. I went to the friday show because I had to be home in delaware this
weekend, so last night, instead of saying "whoa!" (if I said things
like whoa) at the sight of 2/7 of belle and sebastian, I was at the movies
watching "unbreakable" (which, although good, was not as good as seeing yo
la tengo a second time would have been, if you follow). I am in awe of yo
la tengo now, more than I ever thought I would be. they were simply
amazing. damon & naomi were less so, but my enjoyment of their quiet music
could have been impeded by The Most Obnoxious Man Ever who kept loudly
talking throughout their set, at one point proclaiming them "the worst
band ever". why do people insist on being there to see the opening act if
they're simply going to be there talking and being silly? grrrr again.
two growls is my limit. I depart for points unknown.

disjointedly,
eric

p.s. memo to jonny: write me back please, I'm going crazy in delaware.

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From daftpunk at xxx.au  Mon Nov 27 08:03:28 2000
From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:03:28 +0800 (WST)
Subject: Sinister: christmas cd query?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1001126230125.24760A-100000@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>

hey peeps!
it's yr extremely erratic fellow b&s fan from perth, western australia
here-hiya!:)
hope everyone is doin' great and in fine fettle now that most of us
uni-going kids are on holidays (or will be soon)-yay! passed all my exams,
have part time job in dept store which should *hopefully* be much better
than crappy waitering job i had last year, AND helping out in organizing a
music festival-what fun! not to mention reading some great books that i'm
ashamed to admit i haven't read yet like "catcher in the rye" (absolutely
wonderful-should be compulsory reading for everyone), "from hell" that
Alan Moore graphic novel about Jack the ripper and also have "great
gatsby" and "on the road" on the agenda. anyone recommend any other
books??? am currently reading brett easton ellis's "glamorama" which is
hilarious and horrifying in its superficialities. 
erm anyhoo, haven't been keepin' up much with news but could someone tell
me the situation with the christmas cd b&s are contributing to (along with
other fabbo acts like Grandaddy, saint et, eels etc)??? Kay Heath from
Jeepster told me that it should be out on november 20 (thanx for info
btw!) but also heard it has been pushed back. could someone give as much
info about it. 'cos even though i live here in perth, I really wanna get
it (and if contributes to the excellent big issue charity then even
better) and would thoroughly appreciate all and any info.
ok hear from some of you soon
seeya
Kin Woo
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            Take a pill!"- Cordelia Chase



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From jordiet at xxx.com  Mon Nov 27 08:28:18 2000
From: jordiet at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano)
Date: 27 Nov 2000 08:28:18 +0000
Subject: Sinister: christmas cd query?
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From shewitt at xxx.uk  Mon Nov 27 10:05:53 2000
From: shewitt at xxx.uk (Stephen Hewitt)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:05:53 +0000
Subject: Sinister: ding dong the witch is dead
Message-ID: <3A223201.9FEFB19A@ruskin.ac.uk>

hey babies

another monday morning, another load of rambling waffle :)

Saw hefner on saturday with whistler and they both rocked, well ok,
whistler didn't exactly rock as such, they were vewy vewy quiet, but
they were good, although i still prefer their older stuff to the newer
stuff.  Hefner were loads better than the last time i saw them, a lot
beefier for want of a better word, although i think darren is still
possibly the least likely rock god since um, err, well, someone really
unrockgodlike, errrrrrr jonathan richman, no only kidding :)

Also a mini-sini meet up occurred featuring me and glampam (where was
mark hester we asked ourselves ??) and for those of you dying to know
the latest darren hair update, it's getting a little shaggy around the
back, but the fringe is a reasonable length.

So, i wonder if they will release "the day that thatcher died" when she
finally does, i'll certainly be playing it at top volume, and probably
running into the street and shouting it at the top of my voice.

In a bored moment the other night i realised there is not an
"amitweeornot" despite there being a gothornot, as well as the original
hotornot.  Perhaps some enterprising person out there could start one,
we could use the sini-picture gallery as a starting point ;)

Can we have a quick show of hands from those of you going to genital
waves on saturday?  also does anyone know if we'll need to get tix in
advance, how big is this spitz place?

Finally, i was reading my sunday times "doors" supplement yesterday
(hey, you've got to keep up with the kerr-aaazy world of modern
technology <cough>) and one of the columnists mentioned
http://www.blahblahblah.co.uk which i think you should all click on to
see what honeymummy is apparently getting up to in her spare time, Dr.
Sinister, eh?  I thought all that bunnyhugging was just a front all
along ;)

xoxo
CarsmileSteve, an orange boilersuit-clad tool of the revolution, it
appears

PS the above site probably has nothing to do with honey at all, or maybe
thats just what he wants us to think...
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From vanessa.siegl at xxx.at  Mon Nov 27 10:26:06 2000
From: vanessa.siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa Siegl)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:26:06 +0100
Subject: Sinister: (re)introduction
Message-ID: <3A2236BE.72A36902@uibk.ac.at>

Hello everybody,

I used to be on this list ages ago (I think I left around
may 1999)
Checking up the archives on my old posts ... I can't believe
how young I was ... and just how much more easy I found it
to write just any old stuff for everybody to see.

So many things changed in the meantime and some did not ...
I still live in the town that I hate ... I still dream of
getting away ...
I still like Belle and Sebastian ... after ignoring them
shamefully for nearly a year
(Till Fold Your Hands ... hit the shops here)

oooh yes ,,, even though I am still using this e-mail
address (I was impressed to see that the list seems to
remember that I was here before) I quit uni about a year ago
and decided to become some sort of "webdesigner"
(or rather some person who does,,, err websites) ...
I guess I could be a lot further than I am already had I not
been so slack over the summer-months ---

anyway, after chatting with Dafyd recently (hi!) I decided
to rejoin ....
I guess long and nice sinister - mails are exactly what I
need right now!

take care everybody ,,,,    v/x

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From idleberry at xxx.com  Mon Nov 27 10:43:57 2000
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 02:43:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: the original tiger milk- £3.29!!!
Message-ID: <20001127104357.7914.qmail@web616.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello all,
Ugh. Too early in the morning, but I have lots to do,
and yert again I haven't done anything this weekend.
Waster? moi?
Got drunk with flatmates, on Saturday and Sunday. Not
the drunken flatmate though, the other two, who I
like. Started getting soppy on Saturday. Didn't help
one of my flatmates pals was over, and has settled
into our little place, so I was trully in a "I luuuuuv
yoooooou!" sort of mood. Mind you, two bottles of
wine! 
Got thanks for being such a great picker of booze. Not
really, I just look to see where the medium dry/sweet
is, and pick that. Not too fussed.

So yesterday, after cooking (I decided to cook for a
change, seeing as I am always being cooked for) we had
a couple more bottles of booze and played monopoly.
Yes, I won. Well, what did you expect? I was the
banker as well. ;)

Bottles of Wine consumed= 2 on Saturday, three Sunday.
Panic attack about impending university work= 1, this
morning.

Oh, and as for my subect title. Saw a bottle of wine,
I had to buy. Called Tiger Milk. My flatmates laughed
at how bloody sad I can be (which is quite frequent.)
But we agreed that at least it was wine and music,
not, say, other things. Y'know. Like Buffy or Star
Trek. (My little brother is a huge fan of both of
these things. Has a klingon dictionary, all the videos
of virtually every season, of every Star Trek
incarnation, and Buffy, STNG uniform eek! I know the
STNG geeky talk!!)
So I bought a bottle of wine, purely for the label. Ho
hum. Well, I'm looking forward to popping the cork and
seeing what Tiger Milk actually tastes like. 

I'll report back when I've sobered up and tell you.

Love for now,
Idles
 


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From popboyatlanta at xxx.com  Mon Nov 27 14:46:45 2000
From: popboyatlanta at xxx.com (Popboy Atlanta)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:46:45 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Erm, this may or may not be my first post...
Message-ID: <F10608N8yxdZjfNLnly00005ae7@hotmail.com>

Ok, so I'm feeling a bit absentminded at the mo, as I can't remember if I've 
ever posted to the list. I've been a bit of a lurker since I was released 
from the nursery, so if I have posted, it's been a "hmmm, yeah, me too!" 
kinda post, I'm sure. That's me. THE "hmmm, yeah, me too" kinda guy. Anyhow, 
I come to you now because I need help. Not THAT kind of help - actually I do 
need THAT kind of help, but that's not why I'm here...or maybe it is, hmmm. 
what is THAT anyway?

My dilemma: I'm in love with Grandaddy's song "Jed the Humanoid." It makes 
me well up because it's so sad and simply amazing. See, I've always had a 
soft spot for robots, I think they're shiny and sleek, and advanced, and 
misunderstood. Humans blame them for things they themselves programmed into 
the robot. Robots throughout history have provided physical proof that 
humans are consistently blame someone else for their very own mistakes. That 
makes me sad. And now that it's Xmas (I will from here on out refer to it as 
Xmas, because I was always yelled at as a child for calling it Xmas, as it 
took the "true meaning" out of the holiday, AS IF THERE EVER WAS ANY!!?! 
XMAS XMAS XMAS, so there!), I'm once again reminded of my favorite 
stop-action animation specials like Frosty and Rudolph. You know the one 
with the last-year's-forgotten-xmas-toys? They always put a dull ache in my 
heart and a lump in my throat. The song Jed The Humanoid makes me feel just 
that. It blends the two realms of sadness in a tale of a forgotten, 
neglected past toy robot. With all kinds of great bleepy noises. And nice 
lyrical phrasings. On with my story...

Now that I've heard one of Grandaddy's songs, I'd love to buy something from 
them, but I don't know where to start. The local indie shop I used to 
frequent for information and help in these kinds of situations simply turns 
up its collective nose (as they are a collective, y'see) at me anymore when 
I ask questions -  since I've stopped going in there every other day and 
spending my life savings with them they have no time for me, not to mention 
that if I do ever make it in, I have to go on my lunch hour from work which 
means I'm in a suit'n'tie and therefore not hip enough to warrant attention. 
So I've had no help from them. My newfound trusty friend CDNow turns up a 
fair amount of stuff when I search on Grandaddy, and I don't know which one 
to buy to begin my collection.

Can anyone suggest a good starting place to introduce me to the world of 
Grandaddy? Erm, if you need some shape as to what music I generally like, I 
like most everything. (how's that for vague?) I am a breakbeat DJ in my 
other life, but tend to lean towards the bleeps and warmness of Boards of 
Canada and electro-pop Baxendale lately, and have found a retrofitting of 
90's Shoegazing is enveloping a lot of my listening too. I own most of the 
Sarah collection (anyone looking to buy some records?) and I love B&S, the 
newest Darla compilation, and Once Around The Block by Badly Drawn Boy is 
what I hum in my sleep lately, so I'm only partially out of my 60's-ish pop 
fetish.

Oh, and speaking of B&S - my required B&S comment is that I have been 
listening to "Loneliness of A Middle Distance Runner" on repeat for 
seventeen weeks, and I think it is starting to warp my head. It's definitely 
my current favourite B&S song. Cheers to the nice boy who put the MP3 up on 
his website! Now if I could only remember his name or web address...

Well, that's enough for a first post, I don't want to wear out my welcome 
too soon (I'm pretty bad about that, actually, and may have already done 
that. Let's hope not!)

Hugs,
Kevin
www.mindspring.com/~kvinson

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From cartoonclouds at xxx.uk  Mon Nov 27 16:29:55 2000
From: cartoonclouds at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Beth=20Tilston?=)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:29:55 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: How do you cure a crush on a white boy rapper?
Message-ID: <20001127162955.19701.qmail@web4307.mail.yahoo.com>

Hey Sinisteroonies,

Idles mentioned that she had bought a bottle of Tiger
Milk.  I'm sorry to do this to you all but despite the
classy name, Tigermilk is, in the  immortal words of
my sister "Minging".  It's cheap and sweet.  Or
perhaps you bunch of alcoholics (no malice intended!)
like that.  They sell it at my local pub that I work
at occasionally.  It brings no end of mirth to the
battalion of B&S fans that have sprung up from nowhere
in my village.  It does come in a big fuck off bottle
tho, so it is perfick for picnics and such like.  

 Someone actually paid money for my talent in the
auction.  I can't believe it.  I don't think I would
have paid money for my talent, which basically
involves sticking sequins on other things with glue. 
I AM really good at sticking sequins on other things
with glue, so perhaps their bid was not so misplaced
after all.

Some questioned the realness of JenOWL.  I have to
say, you do kinda get the feeling that she is the
wonderful creation of some very gifted writer
pretending to be a young scottish girl.  No JenOWL, I
do believe you are 100% real.  I wouldn't want to
start insulting people on one of the very few trips
out of lurkerdom that I make.  Perhaps you should
write a book, 'JenOWL and the hard kids', in which you
would end up triumphant and all the hard kids would be
working in a factory that they could never ever get
out of for ever more.  I would totally buy it.  You
could do illustrations as well.  That'd show 'em. 
Little bastards.

I have suddenly developed a big crush on Eminem.  I
know it's wrong, but I don't know how to cure it.  Can
anyone help me?  Is it terminal?  Oh god.  I want to
wrap him in a duvet and feed him soop.  I don't know
what's wrong with me.  I just love his little scowling
face.

Anywho, see you soon you bunch of unbelievably
attractive (and REALLY REAL) kids.

Love beth
xxx

P.S. Hey LJ

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From sleeper at xxx.com  Mon Nov 27 17:50:03 2000
From: sleeper at xxx.com (vu sleeper)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:50:03 GMT
Subject: Sinister: simple things
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From declan63 at xxx.com  Mon Nov 27 17:59:54 2000
From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:59:54 -0500
Subject: Sinister: simple things
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From: "vu sleeper" <sleeper at xxx.com>
To: <sinister at missprint.org>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 12:50 PM
Subject: Sinister: simple things


>Mister Moore is currently writing several books in his ABC line -- are all good in their own ways.  "From Hell" is >currently being
talked about to be made into a movie.  They are also thinking they can make "The Leagues of the >Extraordinary Gentlemen" into a
film (another Moore book).

actually, "from hell" is in production right now, starring johnny depp and heather graham, directed by the hughes brothers.  i'd
love to see "extraordinary gentlemen", but i can't imagine who'd put up the money to make such an elaborate story happen.  one can
always hope i suppose.  yes, the ABC books are wonderful.

jay

"i think i'll be a low key sort of elf"


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From tweebunny at xxx.uk  Mon Nov 27 19:14:59 2000
From: tweebunny at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?The=20Twee=20Bunny?=)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:14:59 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: Gonnae no dae that...
Message-ID: <20001127191459.89889.qmail@web10307.mail.yahoo.com>

Hey folksters!!!

It's your friendly neighbourhood Tweebunny here!!!
Miss me? Thought so! :)

I'm currently hopping around in an internet cafe on
St. Vincent Street in Glasgow. It's pretty cool. A
little cold though - very Dilbertesque. Now all we
need is Catbert and Dogbert to mess with our HR
settings ;)

Human Resourses. Horrible, horrible people. They've
just asked me to re-align my position in the company -
in other words, justify my existance. Bureacrats!!!

Apart from that, life's pretty good in bunny land.
Still single, still unlovable, but hey, there goes the
life, no?

Person sitting next to me is talking on ICQ to someone
in Mexico. She refuses to say Glasgow swear words at
them - but I suppose that's not very twee anyway.

Short one today - but it's quite chilly out ;)

Bye all.

=====
*******-- The Twee Bunny --********
*- Tweenybopping since Tigermilk -*
********- *kiss* *kiss* -**********

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From mikelsen at xxx.nz  Mon Nov 27 17:44:47 2000
From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 06:44:47 +1300
Subject: Sinister: The Chills 3CD boxed set
Message-ID: <002301c05899$ee64d500$906137d2@mikelsen>

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Sorry for the shameless plug, but anyone interested in 80s indie/New
Zealand's Flying Nun label should check out the following link:

http://www.softbomb.com/chills/pages/p11.htm

It's for a very cheap, limited edition Chills boxed set which Martin
Phillipps is independantly releasing early next year.

Again, sorry for the plug, but I know *some* of you may be interested.

cheers,

Lawrence Mikkelsen


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From honey at xxx.org  Mon Nov 27 19:20:46 2000
From: honey at xxx.org (The Fragrant World Of Princess Honey)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:20:46 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: simple things
In-Reply-To: <200011271750.JAA07466@dork.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.30.0011271823550.14195-100000@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk>

Hello kittens,

I know I know IknowIknowIknow I haven't posted much recently, but I'm
not neglecting you all, honestly.  I've been there in the background, a
bit tired, but wiping tears and shining shoes as always.  It's just
that if you speak like mum a lot it's hard not to be mum sometimes.  So
let's be mum then:

vu sleeper said:
> I am on the live list, because I must confess I am addicted to
> checking my emails every hour.  Is it me, or the attachement at the
> bottom of every email is much too long ?

Yes hm.  Well you see, the footer's become something of a repository of
Sinister History, and I've never had the heart to remove many of the
earlier artifacts as I've added new ones.  It seemed to me a bit like
sweeping up old bones (not dinosaurs! no!) and throwing them out when I
should be brushing them with my little archaeological brush (*) and
generally looking after them.  I think after I managed the geeky trick
of removing footers after *each post* in the digest I felt justified
letting it get bigger, like when you've just done your ironing and
deserve a nice cup of tea and a McVities Chocolate Digestive (plain
chocolate, from the fridge).  If anyone would like to make a strong
reasoned argument that either I should dispense with any lines (and you
have to say which! and be responsible if anyone moans!) or that they
should flipping well stay, please do mail me privately.  I reserve
the right to change them round according to the relative positions of
the moons of Jupiter.

(*) hello to Mr Gneiss, our new List Archaeologist

vu sleeper also said:
> Also, "sinsietr is a bit freaky", can someone please correct this
> typo ?  Unless David really did say it like that, then well...
> Nevermind.

-  which was not without foresight - he did actually "say" those exact
words, not being a seasoned typer I suppose, in an online chat.  I seem
to remember we were all rather pleased?  The reference is buried in the
archives somewhere I guess.  See what I mean about archaic artifacts?
Someone should put this in the FAQ - meant as a hint to, oh, wait,
me.

Here's some more Mummy talk: any of you AOL users (and there's 184 of
you, Miss Print says) *DON'T UPGRADE TO AOL VERSION 6!!*.  I don't
use AOL but am told by others that the new version doesn't allow
plain text mails at ALL, but wants everyone to send exclusively in
HTML.  If you don't know what this means, it's a compliment,  but
please, hold off upgrading if offered.  If it's right, and you do
upgrade, you won't be able to post from your AOL account to the list.

Please remember if any of you are having trouble with the list you can
mail me and I'll do my best.  I'll be slow to respond, but sure, like
a, erm, glacier?  Make it simple for me because I'm simple, short sharp
questions get the quickest response.  By all means tell me you're in
love too!  A response might take longer though.  I have been known to
sprinkle love dust on listees' pillows at night when they're sleeping,
and to whisper the names of another listee in their ears: it's just
that checking someone's out the nursery is a bit quicker to do.  We
have so very little time.

There's some other stuff I should tell you.  There's lots of new
photos up in the photo galleries, including a fabulous Marlboro Man
Pickle Prince, a smouldering yoghurt eating Joan of Dark, and oo,
lots more.  We could do with a few more items of awful (or great)
clothing, baby pictures or blurry faintly rude parts of the body
though.  Please stop being so shy and be a little tarty.  Sinister is
built on a solid rock of tartiness you know.

http://www.missprint.org/sinister/#photos

Also, the chords for Fold Your Hands Child You Talk Like A Pheasant
are finally online on the chord/tab page:

http://www.missprint.org/sinister/chords.html

Thanks to the delicate, supple, stimulating hands of Mr Damon who sorted
the mails of everyone who sent chords aeons ago, because I wasn't up
to it.  He's great, you know.  And thanks to everyone who worked them
out, and um, sorry etc.

Thanks also to David Moore for posting a fulsome and accurate account
of the Mr Chris/Sodastream concert in Glasgow.  He did indeed stroke
Princess Honey's arm, and all tingly it was too.  And to our star in
the east, Princess Oon: I'm really pleased she was an elephant in a
former life because she once affectionately called out cats "fat", and
they have a revengeful look in their eyes.  And the legendary Pauline
Shivers who I hope to emulate in *my* subsequent lives, I can tell
you, if Oon can fix it for me.  And Pookie who, oh dear, gets me in
all sorts of trouble.

I'd better say one more thing, which you won't want to hear because
it's like when your current beau or belle pops round for tea and your
mum gets out your baby book and starts crying.  This list is so very
important to me, I've made friends here who will last forever (oh Mum
shhhh) and I'm touched and go all fizzy when I think how you've all
stuck with it and made it what it is, and how much you do to keep
your posts readable and interesting for others (Oh MUM! shut up!).
There aren't many mailing lists like this one (SHUT! UP!).

I have lots more to say, most of which I've forgotten, but I'm sure
this is too much already.  I had better go and tell my little kittie
Splat instead.

Honey xxx

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From Daf_Moore at xxx.com  Mon Nov 27 22:14:50 2000
From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:14:50 -0000
Subject: Sinister: You Look As Though The Time Has Come To Pray
Message-ID: <000001c058bf$80f7dfa0$5308073e@default>

Hi List,

It's A Cool, Cool First Sunday Of Advent
Has been out in the UK for a week. www.jeepster.co.uk directs people from
the rest of the world wishing to purchase to:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000051TTC/buro9/026-5894844-399885
5

I like O Come, O Come Emmanuel. Sounds to me like Stuart, Stevie, Isobel &
Sarah taking a verse each in turn (albeit in the order 1, 5, 3, 4 according
to my copy of Hymns Ancient & Modern). Good string arrangement, cool
melodica(?) solo.
As to the rest: some dross, with Grandaddy, Gorky's & Low shining through so
far, hopefully more later. But its for charity, so bloody buy one!


Disciplinary Action?
I've recently taken to peeking at Sinister at work, but may have to stop due
to the strange looks I get from passers-by catching sight of lines like:
"Life In Porno ... teeth marks ... his knob." And I won't be following any
more of Steve "Orange Tool" Carsmile's links, either.


"I'd squash him"
Over the years I've seen listees trying many ways of angling for crush
votes, but it seems that after all the easiest thing to do is just to
include a link to the crush page in a mail :)


The Pines, The Pines!
Listmummy Honey's proud Mum speech made me smile & get misty & reminded me
of the afternoon I spent yesterday in the company of the London branch of
the Sinister family in an Islington pub where the fug was blown away by the
refreshing clean smell & sound of acoustic folk pop duo The Pines. The
punters & windows were steamed & the music was great, both from listees Pam
& Joe & DJ Tim, the Preacher of P!O!P. Thanks.

Thanks too to Romain for continuing my series of occasional French lessons
by explaining why it might be OK to use the name Le Pinefox but never the
handle Les Pines.

Oh, I nearly forgot :) Pines product (one song) is available on the
glittering Fortuna Pop! Christmas compilation (contact
fortuna_pop at bigfoot.com for details) & their own 3 song 7". If (because!)
you want one of the latter contact either longlostcousin at yahoo.com or
pamelab at mcmail.com to find out how.


The evening was spent at the Colchester Arts Centre (a de-consecrated church
for anyone who hasn't been there ( or played there :)  )
First up was Whistler. A big bag of bollocks to their snotty cow of a singer
(still wearing same ugly dress) who compounded the evil of their tuneless
racket by swearing at, taking the piss out of & getting a security man to
threaten a member of the audience for having the temerity to ....

dance!

at "her" gig.

Props then to New! Improved! Rock! Hefner for restoring the balance of good
vibes by playing a great long set spiced with oldies but goodies & inviting
aforesaid idiot dancer onstage during their encores to perform in the pulpit
so everyone could watch him.


Nearly Done
The new Arab Strap single is a return to form - 2 t*o*p tunes, and at last I
know the name of that song they played at ATP (Blackness). There's a new
Cinerama out today too, & if people are going to plug V-Twin's singles
compilation, for anyone who doesn't have all Cinerama's (Princess Honey?)
Cooking Vinyl have gathered up all 13 tracks from their first 4 singles for
less than a tenner as "This Is Cinerama". As a Mr Gedge B side puts most
bands' best songs to shame its well worth getting IMHO.


All Tortoise's PostRockMates
I think I know the answer to this already, but is anyone here going to next
year's Camber Sands weekender?


Close Up The Honky Tonks, Hillary

David Moore
Chelmsford, UK

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From camo811 at xxx.com  Mon Nov 27 22:28:04 2000
From: camo811 at xxx.com (Derek s)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:28:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Ramblings
Message-ID: <20001127222804.5586.qmail@web10906.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi all. I haven't posted in a while, but I'm bored so
here I am. My main reason for posting was to ask if
anyone on the list is interested in photography and if
they could dispense any advice or tips to a fledgling
artistic photographer. You can E-mail. 
    Has anyone seen "Run Lola Run"? I watched it for
about the eighth time last night and was re-amazed all
over again. 
    OK, the other night I saw a little car drive by
with a statue on top and advertisements for red bull
all over it. What is this substance that I hear so
much about?
B&S--- I've experienced a B&S revival and have been
listening to them more frequently again.

Anyway, I've run out of pointless things to write so
I'm going to go. Ta for now.

                                   Derek  

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From room_30 at xxx.com  Mon Nov 27 22:41:32 2000
From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:41:32 -0000
Subject: Sinister: yet another newie here in big skool
Message-ID: <F229ZvBvUppZlKNU77b0000674d@hotmail.com>

hi all

it seems that alot of new people fresh out of the nursery are posting so i 
think i'll join them.  it was so nice in there playing with the toys 
(especially the Big Yellow Teapot)

well, nowt to say now,

ooh
yes
do any of u know if the cool cool christmas thing is being released on 
vinyl? not that i'm a vinyl junkie or anything (well, actually i am) but my 
mate cath (who's ome too) wants to know and i said i'd ask you lovely lot!

just recorded a version of gomez's get myself arrested at college but the 
drummer had to leave before we'd finished so we drafted loads of people in 
to hit and shake things and generally percuss (is that a word?) but the 
guitarists wanted to aswell so it ended up with bass (me) vocals piano and a 
5 piece percussion section and it sounds nowt like gomez
did you really need to know that?
well i've told you now

ok, content time
i played 'the state that i am in'(not only my fave belle and seb song but my 
fave song full stop)  in the pub on thursday night and only made six 
mistakes, not bad at all for someone with 6 pints of xxxx inside them (well 
they were selling it off for a quid a pint to get rid of old stock). i 
finally left the pub at 3 (isn't it great when your mate's dad is the 
manager?) and had a stinking hangover on friday, well wasn't *that* sensible 
of me?


just heard the dandy warhol's contribution to the chrimbo album on lamacq, 
pretty cool.

so thats life here on th foggy banks of the tyne
love and sellotape
pez*
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From prbar at xxx.com  Tue Nov 28 01:01:01 2000
From: prbar at xxx.com (Phillip Runion)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 01:01:01 
Subject: Sinister: merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is just a sinking feeling
Message-ID: <F264NAa0icaIemPBpEf00005584@hotmail.com>

Sinisterinos! (must eat their beeforino?)
I've realized something rather odd today. Only a year ago, i would stand at 
the bus stop and drop verses from the likes of Ol' Dirty Bastards first 
album, but now i find myself singing the boy done wrong again, as well as i 
can, even when old ladies walk by and look at me funny.
Just a thought when walking home from work: Does using McDonalds as an 
ultimatum make you a lazy and uninspired parent? I hate that establishment, 
and will never bring my children there.
While on the subject, is it ever too early to think about how you're going 
to raise your children? Specifically, education. I don't really know how 
public schooling is in other countries, but i can say, with at least a 
little authority, having attended both city and private institutions, that 
schools in America are beyond help. In the words of Dose One*: "Brainwashing 
is educational, we the school board, the church, and the State, acting on 
behalf of our sponsors are here to protect you, all of you!, from drugs, and 
the slightest knowledge of soul purpose." How true is this? I didn't want to 
pledge of allegiance to the flag, but fuck all if i was going to sit in a 
corner for not doing it. Me and children are a long way off, but still, 
public schools are only going to get worse, and really good private schools 
are only going to get more expensive. So i wonder, who can teach my children 
better than myself and my future life partner?, and i inevitably come to the 
conclusion that no one can. The Answer? Home School. What do you think of 
this concept? This idea has been rapidly spreading throughout the U.S. in 
the past decade or so. I like it. I just wonder if any of you do aswell.

*Dose One is one of those Anticon kids, who just may very well be the dopest 
lyricist on the planet. Any one up for some Avant-Hip-Hop; as indie as you 
can get.
Brier: are you from the Bay Area? That's where these guys are from. For some 
reason, i could see you digging them.
them is a name of one of the groups.
Who's on first?

Continuing on down the education path. . . I have spent the last week 
contemplating dropping out of university. This place is really doing nothing 
for me. In addition, i have an opportunity to start making a lot of cash as 
a *gulp* insurance broker. Being that i've already decided that the job i 
get after i graduate doesn't matter, because whatever it turns out to be, it 
will only be a crutch to save up money to start a record/bookstore/recording 
studio/radio station (one step at a time of course)with two of my best 
friends. Why not start saving now, rather than three years from now? All it 
would take is a couple of night courses and the patience to put up with a 
god awful job for 3 or 4 years. Do i think i've made a life decision this 
time? Not quite, just thoughts and considerations that are forcing peter pan 
to grow up.

Are you happier when you don't have time to think about falling in love? Are 
you more likely to fall in love when you're not always thinking about it and 
wishing that it would hurry up and happen to you?

Round-a-bout Content in the form of a quote: "Having had a stab at a career, 
Miranda left Ned and went to shop in the food section of Marks and 
Spencer's. She never bothered queue-guessing since she always ended up in 
the worst queue; the one with the dimwit assistant who got stuck on a 
particular item or the costomer who paid in pennies slothfully withdrawn 
from several pockets. . . Meanwhile, she saw Stuart turning tables round 
from the corner of her eye. She thought to herself that he was a nice enough 
chap, and went over to say hello. Maybe she could get him to knock off 
early, and come back to her place. She doubted it, though, with all his talk 
of being a sinner lately. The last four people she had made the proposition 
to had all been strangers, and had equally thought her to be disease ridden. 
However, she was only lonely and seeking companionship, and clean as a 
whistle, in fact. Stuart, he is rather cute, isn't he, she thought. I do 
wonder how he is in. . . . " and that concludes this posts content.
The Real writing: Tibor Fischer
The Rubbish      : Yours Truly,
                              phil r

ps: i was going to say zebra print knickers, really, i was.

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From declan63 at xxx.com  Tue Nov 28 01:19:11 2000
From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:19:11 -0500
Subject: Sinister: merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is just a sinking feeling
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Phillip Runion" <prbar at xxx.com>
To: <sinister at missprint.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 1:01 AM
Subject: Sinister: merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is just a sinking feeling


Me and children are a long way off, but still,
> public schools are only going to get worse, and really good private schools
> are only going to get more expensive. So i wonder, who can teach my children
> better than myself and my future life partner?, and i inevitably come to the
> conclusion that no one can. The Answer? Home School. What do you think of
> this concept? This idea has been rapidly spreading throughout the U.S. in
> the past decade or so. I like it. I just wonder if any of you do aswell.


ummmm.......i dunno, outside of education itself, you could run into some heavy socialization problems.  best to not take such
action lightly.

> Are you happier when you don't have time to think about falling in love? Are
> you more likely to fall in love when you're not always thinking about it and
> wishing that it would hurry up and happen to you?

that's what they're always saying, isn't it......the smug bastards.  ;)

jay

"just a little boy lost in a big man's shirt"


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From mackm at xxx.edu  Tue Nov 28 01:39:44 2000
From: mackm at xxx.edu (Michelle Lynn Mack)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:39:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Sinister: merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is just a
 sinking feeling
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and of course to add to all those out of the nursery.. i will continue.

i had made up my mind a few days ago that i would continue to be a lurker
for awhile until i had something exciting or mind-boggling to say.
obviously i realized it may take a lot longer than i thought.. 

to continue. first on repling to phil r's content regarding the scholing
in america these days. the perspective you took, phil, is understanding.
although #1 i don't think it is a result of americana, or has anything to
do with the states. my contention is that home schooling would be the best
if what you could offer children was limitless. if you were educated
enough (well rounded) and even open minded enough. because obviously the
whole idea of pressing your views on a child is still a factor to
consider. gee, even in just raising them let alone schooling them to. you
see it everywhere, parents thinking their children are insane for having
different views on things other than their own. 
my 6 out of 9 cousins (in one family) were home schooled. their parents
are educated only to high school and have very strict reglious beliefs.
now i am not saying that this is bad in any means but those children, i
think missed out on a lot of things because of this. #1 the close minds of
my uncle and aunt, and #2 the lack of education, and life experiences, and
#3 the simple daily interaction of people their own age. i personally
think it is important. 
 
and to add.. to derek s's 

run lola run: great flick. and as funny as it is i don't own it. you see i
only have a vcr, no reg tv. so in my collection which i have gone through
about 4 or 5 times now this school year, there is no run lola run. thank
you and i'll try to add it to the collection. and please do tell us if you
find any other interesting tit-bits in it!

something i noticed about a film.... a pretty "classic american film"..
GREASE.. i went  garage saling this past summer and found GREASE trading
cards. they wer four american dollars. so i bought them. ant there is one
of the part where danny is running the track and sandy is standing near
her football boyfriend (chizelhead) and on the trading card she has on
sunglasses, on a red string around her neck. in the movie there are not
sunglasses. i've looked very close. i just thought this was interesting.

michelle
thanks for noticing me!:)

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From mikelsen at xxx.nz  Tue Nov 28 05:48:21 2000
From: mikelsen at xxx.nz (Lawrence Mikkelsen)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:48:21 +1300
Subject: Sinister: Painless Persuasion v. The Meathawk Immaculate
Message-ID: <003f01c058fe$f37f0820$a86137d2@mikelsen>

Yo Joes!

A rather strange, and not too complimentary view of our beloved sinist*r
list can be found here

http://www.enter.ie/enterweb/regulars/show_feature.cfm?Regulars_ID=42

I can't quite make head nor tail of what the author is trying to say, but it
makes interesting read. Check it out.

***WEDDING PLANS***
Jeepers they're driving me insane. I have seen so many photographers, venues
and churches in the last few weeks I feel I am going insane. My philosophy
is to take "the path of least resistance"and just say yes to everything.
(sigh)

I do, however, have a few "not negotiables"

One, the cake. On top there will be two little figures of Han Solo and
Princess Leia, rather than stupid generic plastic figures.

Two, the music at the church. "Rust" by Echo & The Bunnymen as Vanessa walks
in (it's her favourite song anyway, so she doesn't have to compromise
there), "Northern Sky" by Nick Drake for the signing of the
certificate/legal stuff, and The Beach Boy's "Wouldn't It Be Nice" as we
leave the church.

***GUILT***
I feel bad. I ordered the Gentle Waves CD and EP, along with "it's A Cool
Cool Christmas" from amazom.co.uk rather than Jeepster. I feel *really* bad
about this, but a few days after the Christmas album had been released it
still wasn't on the Jeepster site. Which is extremely inefficient and crap.
Remember when you used to be able to pre-order? Also, ordering the three CDs
from amazon.co.uk saved me a total of 5 pounds, because I didn't have to pay
the VAT, and the CDs were a wee bit cheaper.

I still feel bad though. (sigh)

Anyway, off to sleep.


Lawrence

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From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk  Tue Nov 28 11:26:33 2000
From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:26:33 -0000
Subject: Sinister: If Eminem can be crushed on, there's hope for me yet...
Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E4302775405@lotus.ntu.ac.uk>

I've spent plenty of time when I've been bored planning how to bring up my
kids. I'm not convinced about home-schooling, just as I think it's a real
waste going to uni and living at home; you're missing out on the whole
social side of things. Education shouldn't just be about learning facts,
should it?

Of course, all I've got to do now is find someone who wants to get married
and have kids with me... It could take a while...

(David, is this where I'm meant to put the link to the crush page into my
post? Instead I think I'll put the link to my own webpage -
http://www.science.ntu.ac.uk/msor/skg/ - I doubt if any of you will visit
it, but it's more likely than any of you voting for me on the crush...)

Time to start stalking other Sinisterines again. I might make it down to
London for the Gentle Ben gig at the weekend, if of course anyone offers me
a floor to sleep on for the night... (And I keep having this nagging feeling
that it's really about time we had a get-together in Nottingham, there's
enough of us living here now)

Only 391 shopping days left until next Christmas...

Big Stu
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From little_miss_pixie at xxx.com  Tue Nov 28 13:32:08 2000
From: little_miss_pixie at xxx.com (superfurrygrrrrl .)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:32:08 -0000
Subject: Sinister: i need medication for my sleep deprivat-eeee-on , oh ho ho oh
Message-ID: <F68ljWwY0VnkB4ltFlm00006a2b@hotmail.com>

#yo la tengo, i can hear the heart beating as one.

hiya, sinister how are you all on this fine day?? good i hope. i've just 
read that erm... review, on sinister by that seemingly very bitter man, i 
guess there were a few points, there can sometimes be a *feeling* of 
exclusivity (bad english i know) among belle and sebastian fans, most likely 
not intended because they all seem to be generally nice people,  but i have 
not yet encountered any to the extent that he wrote about in the 'review'. 
and it seems he decided to ditch the band when the crowd didnt riot over 
isobelle being ill. okay, sorry, im sure they'll try and be a bit more 
slipknot in the future. *gives narrowed eyed looks of confusion to the 
computer screen*.can anyone explain??

on the subject of home schooling, i would not touch it with a ten foot 
bargepole because personally i think interaction is very important  as it 
can mean the difference between being a generally well balanced person and 
being an eternally unhappy one. i guess the only other option is to fight 
for changes within state education. i was thinking about sending my children 
to a gaelic school and then i remembered how segregated it all was and how 
you usually dont live in the same area as all your school friends, which is 
a big sacrifice to make for seemingly better education and smaller 
classes.god,  i'm really afraid for my imaginary kids now. :(

i have just discovered the lovely lovely 'low' as my good friend nick lent 
me his copy of 'secret name' (i hope thats right) and its *thinks of 
appropriate music critic word* achingly beautiful hehe.

*content*

if it were a b and s song it would be 'dont leave the light on baby*.

*end of content*

im feeling kind of frightened/exposed now because i just e mailed my friend 
some things that ive never told anyone before. do you ever get the feeling 
that there's just nobody that you can really complete trust to totally open 
up to?? or you think you can and then it turns out that that person doesnt 
really care anyway. *cringe* sometimes i talk too much.....

the superfurryanimal is now going to retreat deep into a hibernating state. 
perhaps back to the womb with the sound of sigur ros, mmmm.

until next time anyway!!

keep your chin up, and remember, even the social worker cant work out the 
game of eyes.


lots and lots of love,

superfurrygurl xxxx

p.s:i got money today, yes, alcohol, woooohoooooooo. :oD





























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From Weingut.Hammes at xxx.de  Tue Nov 28 13:35:26 2000
From: Weingut.Hammes at xxx.de (Juergen Hammes)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:35:26 +0100
Subject: Sinister: >lola
References: <20001127222804.5586.qmail@web10906.mail.yahoo.com>
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>     Has anyone seen "Run Lola Run"? I watched it for
> about the eighth time last night and was re-amazed all
> over again. 
Is that "Lola Rennt"? I know I should watch it, but I still haven't been 
bothered to go to the video shop. Maybe I should borrow it ?! I don't know. But 
Franka Potente is great.

Kerstin "Hammes" Hammes

Was it someone that you'd maybe recognise ? 

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From lleweth at xxx.com  Tue Nov 28 13:32:51 2000
From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:32:51 -0000
Subject: Sinister: There's only 27 more shoplifting days till Christmas left! 
Message-ID: <LAW-F115TqZHotpk7y8000034f2@hotmail.com>

Greetings! Hey there Special K, wuzzup Ree, yo James, and hello you hottie 
of a princess honey. Ok, I think that'll cover everyone who will actually 
read this...

Will someone butter my bottom and call me a smut muffin?! If Ole' Dickie, 
Smut Blake, Rousing Ree, Inebriated Julie, & Erotic Erica didn't all just 
favor us with posts recently to make me feel all sinisterly fuzzy right 
there where my heart should be. Mmmm - yay! I personally think that Ree 
should be worshipped and adored by all the Sinister masses. Did you see how 
she artfully styled it so that an innocent beautiful Christmas Carol turned 
into a workshop full of smut? Plus, she had an ace Parker quote. So 
impressive! I'd bow down to her but there's really no telling what she'd do 
with me in that position of supplication....Now, all we need is to hear from 
Jygsaw Dave, Walkn Steve, and Reid Dossinger. One of those was my first list 
crush but I can't remember which one. Probably Reid because I could never 
figure out if he were gay or not. I always find it wiser to have a crush on 
someone who you know from the beginning that you don't have a chance with. 
It makes life easier. If I had my way, each person would come with a 
floating sign behind their head that only I could read. It would have their 
name, age, where they're from, and my chances with them:

Kevin, 25, South Carolina, No way - I'm gay even if I won't admit it
Bill, 28, Chicago, Maybe if you keep wearing those tight shirts
Jim, 23, Long Island, Go away. I'd rather have a pet monkey than a girl
Will Porter, 24, Oregon, For the love, I'm Will Porter - as if you would 
EVER have a chance with me!

Hmm. Maybe this might not be such a good idea. After so many "maybe if you 
were a buxom blonde and didn't have that annoying southern accent you might 
have a chance to play with my dog" I would get depressed and become 
embittered (and I'm so far from that now...)

"Well I'm in love with a certain boy
He's a simple person..."
After a couple of years of hearing about it, I *finally* heard "Rhoda."  
Listening to it makes me feel as if Stu is sitting there gossiping in my 
ear. Anything that involves Struan, my ear, and whispering is 'all right by 
me. It has much more of a personal feel than a normal song. "And on her arm 
there's freckles and scars. Do you know what they are? Do you know where 
they came from?"  The best part is the lyric of, "And a fag in the morning 
with her Special K. " Where's a good lighthouse and a spinisterine when you 
need one? Of course, "Loneliness ..." is still my favorite unreleased song 
with "Lord Anthony" as a close second. I refuse to believe McMc-eys last 
post where he said that according to Mr. Murdoch "Loneliness ..." might 
never ever be released. This simply can't be! (Of course, I also refused to 
read much of his post after he started going lovey dovey about scenes on 
park benches. There's only so much I can take before I gag. However, Mcmc, 
when you stop drooling over that picture of St. LOOSE(u)SEE could you please 
send your list my way?)

Oh - the Sinister Photo page. I don't know who Honey thinks he is fooling 
but I refuse to believe those latest pictures are of actual list members. A 
topless SueMi and a Pickle Prince donning a cowboy hat. Pffft! Suurreeeee, 
next thing you'll be trying to tell me is that the guy under the picture 
name of Pfennig isn't actually just the latest feature at 
www.mulletsgalore.com under the headline of "Mary, Mother of God, make it 
stop."

Thanks to Brier Random (who has a new picture on the page with him doing a 
great Mirah impression), I now know what my name looks like in a urinal. 
Trust me, Erica, stick to aspirations of having your name in lights. I also 
know what my name looks like mispelled scrawled across my chest in blue 
letters on a thin white tee. Quite good if I do say so myself (and I do.)  
It is one of the best gifts I have ever gotten and is now my new night 
shirt. Mmmm - the milk ain't the only thing that is spoiled.

This is getting long and so I will save my list of what I want for Christmas 
later. I am in the minority (as usual) with my love of the holiday. Every 
Christmas, I feel like a little child, but we always get turkey..... heh

I'm your huckleberry,

Laura, 23, North Carolina, Only if you can tie a cherry stem in a knot with 
your tongue


PS-  Happy Birthday shouts out to the object of my imperfection, Max, who 
turned 25 on Thanksgiving and to Noah (Mark/Boygirl/One who needs to post 
more) whose birthday was Friday. (I think. Slap me if I'm wrong)
PPS - Looking for a book to read? Laura Llew's Lovely Literary List is at 
http://iodin.tripod.com/litlist.htm
Remember - Down with Amazon! Support your local Indie stores or ones 
on-line. To find both, go to http://www.booksense.com




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From Mark at xxx.com  Tue Nov 28 14:26:29 2000
From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:26:29 GMT
Subject: Sinister: Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:26:24 -0000
Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22011D36E2@SERVER1>

Have any other digestives noticed that whenever Princess H posts, her mails
are ALWAYS the last one in the digest, almost as if she's craving the last
word...?

Hello. I too haven't posted for a while as I've had nowt to say. Really. I
did have a *moment* with B&S the other day, when I was frustrated and moody,
and I slipped the Black Sessions tape into my increasingly-more-erratic car
stereo, and remembered how startlingly good they are. Very nice, but not
very interesting.

I also need to work lots or I'll be fired. Which won't matter very much, as
I'll be leaving soon. That's it in a nutshell, so I won't bore you rigid
with the long version.

Talking of Tiger Milk, some of the more bilious of you may remember Kevan
Cooke's Catastrophic Cocktail Cabinet that we took to Bowlie. The highlight
of Mr C's offerings was a tipple by the name of The State I am In. It was
made by taking a bottle of this sweet Slovakian wine, and introducing it to
whisky and gin. In moderation, natch.

I think I still have the bottle, if anyone would like to take it off our
hands.

Any listees going to be in Edinburgh/Glasgow over the new year? Hope to see
you then, then...

Sad fat old timer Mark xxx


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From boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com  Tue Nov 28 14:51:37 2000
From: boyfreind_in_a_coma at xxx.com (Desmond Torpey)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 06:51:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: alcohol,corned beef,mad dogs and plastic bags........
Message-ID: <20001128145137.13870.qmail@web1609.mail.yahoo.com>

greetings sinister folks....
...'tis me again...back to pester you with more tales
of shitty small town westcountry life..the subject
line may seem deceptivly interesting by the way but i
have probably misled you.....i have finally recovered
from the weekends 'fun' which consisted of stting
bored and lonely in a nasty dive of a club whose music
policy consisted of neandarthal men in big shorts
whining about how they always get the blame for
everything....but it was my freinds 18th birthday so i
had to go and get him drunk....a mission which was
succesful in so far as by two o clock he was slumped
in a corner wearing a bizzare hat and muttering about
corned beef....i slept for the rest of the weekend
with snow patrols marvellous 'when i get home for
christmas' playing on repeat....
...it was a suprisingly nice morning today so i took
the oppurtunity to skive college and wander aimlessly
round for a bit...(this is how i plan to spend the
rest of my life)....i discovered a deceptivley small
looking little wood in the middle of one of the
rougher areas of town....of course it wasnt nearly as
attractive or small when i got further in.....in fact
it was full of plastic bags and upside down
umbrellas.....i stumbled round for a bit and then
discovered that i was in fact extremely lost and
starting to feel like a small boy from a paticularly
grubby fairy tale before droppeing my lighter in a
puddle and poking my eye on a branch....then to top it
all off i was nearly savaged by a mad dog who i heard
barking long before i saw him going for my
paticulars...it was like the blair witch project but
with a jack russell and less screaming....luckily his
owner yelled an undecipharable command at him and i
was spared a biting....i finally found my way out but
it took me the entirety of tigermilk which was on my
walkman at the time(see that cunning slipping in of
content there?)to find land....ho hum....
..thats the fascinating events of my life in the last
few days....i promise i wont take you through EVERY
event of my existence i future but i had nothing
specific to write and just felt like a small
post....thats it for now people....i'm going to go and
dance to duran durans 'hungry like the wolf' for a
bit.....ta ta....

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From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk  Tue Nov 28 15:14:04 2000
From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:14:04 +0000
Subject: Sinister: If Eminem can be crushed on, there's hope for me
	 yet...
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Big Stu thinks that there's hope for him if girls have crushes on Eminem.  Is
this the same Big Stu I used to know?  Have his jungle adventures transformed
him from an amiably bumbling fool into a foul-mouthed multiple-personalitied
monster?  Or is the allure of the 'difficult man' lost on him?  I'm not
complaining about this.  It would be hypocritical of me to complain about women
liking bad seeds, as I make a point of only fancying foul-tempered women.

Anyway, Eminem's got lovely eyes.

I think Carsmile Steve's amianannoyingtweefuckerornot.com has a lot of mileage
in it.  Perhaps Stuart Mmm would do better there than the paltry 3.8 out of10 he
received on amihotornot.com (http://www.amiHOTorNOT.com/r/?eid=KRSQO&key=UEHFF )
.  Maybe people thought they were voting for Isobel.

As for home education, I'm all for it.  But only as a means of filling the gaps
in the high school curriculum, where hermeneutics, ancient Greek and advanced
calculus are regularly squeezed out in favour of (admittedly important)
socialisation and/or peer-group torment.  As an American billionaire remarked to
me at a recent party, there isn't much in the world that wouldn't be improved by
a little more knowledge of calculus.  Another guest put the case for 'poetry,
music and some laughs', but everyone agreed that it was a weak one.

"You see I'm just Marshall Mathers / I'm just a regular guy I don't know why
       there's all this fuss about me" (Eminem, 'Marshall Mathers')
"You think I'm faultless to a 't' / My manner set impeccably / But underneath I
am the same as you" (B&S, 'There's Too Much Love')
"The dream of all the bowlie kids that hang around here / And I'm no different
from the rest" (B&S, 'The Model')

Stuart and Marshall seem to be going through similar crises these days.  Famous
people - moan, moan, moan.

N. x





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From ppyrrjs at xxx.uk  Tue Nov 28 17:02:44 2000
From: ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:02:44 -0000
Subject: Sinister: The Not-So Mundane Life of Mister Stout
Message-ID: <3A23E534.10252.5232E0@localhost>

Good evening

	After a crisis meeting with my bank manager on Thursday, I 
stepped onto the escalator that leads from my bank manager's ivory 
tower to the sodden streets of this fair city. As I glided down the 
staircase (1), my oblong bag swinging like a briefcase by my side, I 
felt like a proper man. If I was asked when I was twelve what I would 
be doing when I was grown up this would be it, and there I was doing 
it. I felt like I was a real person, who could be in a book called 
"Robin Makes Waves" or "The Not-So Mundane Life of Mister 
Stout". I stood up tall, and braced myself for an afternoon of 
conferences and crisis-meetings. Then I remembered that I'd only 
been to see my bank manager because I was broke and aimless, 
and walked home to watch Fifteen-to-One.
	A funny thing to do when watching Fifteen-to-One is to name all 
the people after how they look, so a bald person would be Mister 
Bald, and a scared old man would be called Mister Trembler. 
Usually, whenever I do this the winner is Mister Beard.

	On Thursday evening, I went to see "Belle and Sebastian" DJing 
here in Nottingham. Of course Belle and Sebastian turned out to be 
Chris and Richard. After being let in an hour late, we realised that 
Chris had in fact been replaced by a fat man with breasts, so "Belle 
and Sebastian" were in fact "Fat Man and Richard". It was a good 
nite, though.
	I got hungry just before they finished so I ran out to the chip 
shop and bought a box of chips. As I waited outside for my friends, 
eating my chips, and the bouncers stole half of them ("Oooh, 
vinegar, that's great. I love vinegar - it kills the grease"), I spoke to 
the girl on the door.
"Don't you think it's a bit crap billing one person as 'Belle and 
Sebastian?' I think some people were a bit disappointed"
"I suppose. I don't think we could fit in the whole band, though. 
There's thirteen of them."
"Oh"
"Hey mate, can I have another chip?"
"If you want"
	So in one night Belle and Sebastian went from having seven 
members, to two , to one and then to thirteen. I was very confused. 
Let's be honest, I'd have been in bed already if if wasn't for those 
dreams about obstacle courses.

	Well that was last Thursday. Since then I've been economising 
due do the wise words and steely gaze of the bank manager, and 
just staying in and working (2). If anyone has any ideas for fun 
things I could do without spending any money, I'd like to know. At 
home at the weekend my mum tried to fill me up with dumplings so I 
wouldn't have to eat for a week, but it doesn't work. Tonight, though, 
a certain someone will be cooking a meal for the two of us, and we 
can do inexpensive things all evening. In the end you know, all the 
best things are free.

bye then

	Robin xxx

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From jono427 at xxx.net  Tue Nov 28 18:16:13 2000
From: jono427 at xxx.net (John Maxwell)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:16:13 +0000 (GMT+00:00)
Subject: Sinister: Judy & the dream of... sild
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From pcxas at xxx.uk  Tue Nov 28 16:05:25 2000
From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:05:25 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: The mawkishest moments of love is the closest we will get to happiness
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Triple LLL forced me to post something today out of her managing to
introduce one Moonriver reference followed up some Twin Peaks sick
memorabilia all in two lines.A remarkable exercise of economy in the
speech.Or,choosing to display how the Continental Encyclopaedic
Educational Method filled the gaps inbetween the domains of my brain
dedicated to advanced calculus, 'an exercise of Conceptism'.Only for the
ones who had to endure memorising genealogy of Baroque Literary Scenes.

In fact,Triple M,aka Agent Pennington,was the one who gave me the drive to
type a few nonsense lines.I still cannot believe how his message had not
been commented at large,with that mysterious encounter with Struan and so
in the first rows of the comeback of The Go-Betweens.It had some
detectivesque quality to it,I could picture them in pale double-breasted
overcoats and vintage RayBans exchanging some crucial folder surrounded by
an oblivious mass of indiekidz uniformed in thick-rimmed glasses and
corduroy flares.What was really revealed during that conversation at the
highest level? 


MMM's also reported his absolute trust in the moment present and provided
us with one of the (very few) accounts of happy-end stories in this
list,usually truffled with people in love with the wrong ones,endlessly
dumped in assorted circumstances,or just simply moaning about this and
that.Too high a dose of optimism for the heterosexual male
combo in the list,if we sum this up with the news that even Eminem can
have his chance! Other basket cases I ever found susceptible to be
regarded as potential crushes,to rise the moral of our troops...?
I think I found Martin Rossiter attractive at some point, and also
received lots of abuse of diverse members of this list on commenting how
handsome someone trading Jeepster merchandising seemed to be.And Matthew
Rose,annoying brat as he was.


Is that enough? xxx A.



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From paularathoon at xxx.com  Tue Nov 28 18:53:37 2000
From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:53:37 -0000
Subject: Sinister: not for all the tea in china
Message-ID: <F229XrRjbDt3HvoFOAm000071d2@hotmail.com>


Hello everyone..

Well christmas comes but once a year and this year it's going to be lots of 
fun... Actually its not because I have a job now and thus I have no prospect 
of having time off until march so excepting the day itself and boxing day 
it's going to be a bit like any other time of the year.
Kind of sad really. It's another vestige of being young that has disappeared 
in the last months. Like untaxed pay, which was something I always 
appreciated. But I am really worried more about having the time of listen to 
all of my music. At university I always did my essays and assignments to the 
strains of music. Now I don't have to take work home so I don't have the 
same opportunity. And here's the irony- i now have the money to buy lots of 
CD's. I would laugh if it didn't annoy me so much...I am using the last 
remaining days of freedom til i start work listening to 69 Love songs and 
the new gentle waves stuff.
Anyway there are more important things in the world than getting to listen 
to music all the time.

i really like the B&S contribution to the christmas album. it's very 
soothing and peaceful which I guess was the idea. That's another thing about 
getting a bit older. I now want music that is very peaceful and quiet. 
Shouty vocals and loud guitars don't do it for me anymore thus I am scorned 
by the Slipknot and Limp Bizkit kidz who skateboard their way round London. 
Not that i am crying over that.
Did anyone else hear the story of Low doing a radio session that was so 
quiet that the station's emergency tape, which activates itself when there 
is silence, kicked in? I like that lots.

Hello to anyone who was at Track and Field in London on friday. I didn't say 
hello to anyone there but i was wearing a Hefner Tshirt and an odd brown 
"grandad top". That's what my sister said anyway and she has the advantage 
of youth over me so is probably right.


paul
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From jonnyfive at xxx.com  Tue Nov 28 19:52:04 2000
From: jonnyfive at xxx.com (jonny five)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:52:04 -0600
Subject: Sinister: don't leave enter.ie on baby
Message-ID: <1916920001122819524448@starmail.com>

dearest Sini,

i have posted mainly out of fear of being damned as a lurker, but also
because i'm sat in a hot computer room, so i'm in the mood for posting.

firstly, a cuss to idleberry for spoiling Honey's surprise pressie. if
anyone is interested in this still, please email me with 'honey's pressie'
in the subject. danke. secondly (this is despite me getting upset whenever
other Sinites do this without mentioning me) an 'it's me, mum' wave to
eric, miles and loz. and to all the rest of you who aren't very happy but
are a bit lonesome. tonight.

oh, so here's the news. i came out to my best friend at uni, and he has
been grate about it. i also came out to a couple of my other friends, who
have also been grate, so things are looking a bit up. next in line is my
folks, who i will tell maybe at the christmas holidays:
Pops: Shall i carve the turkey?
Ma: Wait, aren't we forgetting something?
Jonny: Oh, yeah, I'm gay. Can i have some stuffing? Matron.
-scene fades-
that will be fun, hem hem. 

my flatmates are still Prime Swines, but i have won the Porn Wars. They
found a porn poster (an woman dressed in her best Grange Hill uniform, only
with her mucky old pants showing, with the hilarious tagline 'Study Hard' -
geddit?) which they put on the kitchen wall. For some reason, it kept
falling down, almost as though someone kept loosening the blu-tac (did you
know that that is actually how blue-tack is spelt? ridiculous), and
eventually, they gave up putting it back up again. there was a bit of a
revival the other week, but by then i only had to look at the poster and it
fell down, never to return. tragedy! however, they are having their revenge
by assaulting me with the finest selection of AOR - Knights in White Satin,
Kissed by a Rose, early Genesis! shoot me and do it now. they had a
conversation about trying to fit two people into our single beds the other
day:
Flatmate 1: it's really hard trying to sleep in those tiny beds
FM2: yeah, every time you turn over you nearly fall out
Jonny: you think you've got it bad! try fitting in there with an 18 stone
builder called Keith who's three feet across the shoulders! then tell me
it's a squeeze! Lightweights.
-scene fades again-

in case you hadn't guessed, the amount of news i have is minimal. i have
converted one whole person to B&S. i have started with tigermilk, and the
EPs, but what next? all tips and suggestions to the usual address. oh, and
for those of you still puzzling over my one clue Sini crossword, here is
the answer:
clue: erica macarthur and eric d. brasure lose their surnames and meet an
e-mama (7, 7)
answer: america, america.

surely that was obvious. oh well, there goes the Grate Sini Christmas
Crossword. OK i'm going to put on my scarf and skip into the sunset.

lots of love
j.xxx
ps there has been a lot of discussion about love and crushes recently. can
i just say 'ha!' because i got list-crushed, and '*sob*' because i've never
been crushed in real life. not in a good way anyway. all sympathy and
declarations of love in the peak district area to the usual address.

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From gelflingag at xxx.com  Tue Nov 28 20:33:24 2000
From: gelflingag at xxx.com (gelflingag at xxx.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:33:24 -0500
Subject: Sinister: to cut a butterfly's dream two thirds of the way through
Message-ID: <20001128.153325.-3976403.0.gelflingag@juno.com>

tis a sad day for Julia Butterfly. her beloved tree had been vandalized,
cut two thirds of the way through the trunk of the poor tree. if no one
knows who Julia Butterfly is, shes the lady who lived two years in a red
wood to help stop logging and deforestation of the giant red wood
forests.  to be so dedicated to something. just to see it destroyed right
before your very eyes. tis a sad day indeed. 

  ahh. to be on the road and working again. the start of the week is the
worst and the best. the start of work. we drive. countless hours. winter
landscapes pass by through a sheet of glass at 70 miles per hour. through
dark forests. barren naked trees. until the ocean dark creeps up to the
right. casino lights reflect of her moody face. shadows and head lights
drive along side and pass the other. so of course i put on some music to
go with the scenery.  "dont leave the light on baby......"

joe
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From green at xxx.au  Tue Nov 28 21:13:27 2000
From: green at xxx.au (green)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:13:27 +1100
Subject: Sinister: Erm, this may or may not be my first post...
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Message-ID: <003801c05980$6637e900$827611cb@green>

*WARNING- ENTIRE POST ABOUT GRANDADDY (LIST RELEVANT I SWEAR!)*

hey (this is sent to the entire list, as opposed to just Popboy, cos i've
heard people enquire about my lovely Grandaddy before)
Grandaddy eh?  lovely.
you like Jed the Humanoid.  well, my favourite is the 'sequel'... which is
called "Jed's Other Poem (Beautiful Ground)" and is also on "The Sophtware
Slump" along with "Jed the Humanoid".
  I own this album as well as the first full-length, called "Under the Great
Western Freeway".

Under the Great Western Freeway has a few more obvious pop tunes... just. in
my opinion.  (it has a couple of weezer-ish hit singles in "am180" and
"summer here kids").
but the songs still drag on in a lovely fashion, and nothing is rushed.
the songs combine the innocence of an Amish farmer with the purest indie
love stories with (in a couple of tracks) sometimes vague sometimes full-on
sci-fi.  in a romantic fashion of course ("go progress chrome/they paint the
moon today"... "he'd seen plenty of mirages and imaginary visitors [since
the shuttle had crashed] so he wasn't sure what to think when he saw swans
they were wading on the shores of a pale white lake that he'd never seen
there before"... "everything beautiful is far away").  excellent and very
interesting production.

The Sophtware Slump has all these things, with the following differences.
it is more cohesive (the singer/producer fellow played the whole thing thru
on piano before recording).  it has more sci-fi (how beautiful is a song
about a national forest for broken down household appliances?  or an
alcoholic robot?  or the hero- he's simple, he's dumb, he's the pilot-
"don't give in 2000 man".  or the song about a miner at the "dial-a-view"
from which he searches for his loved ones).  it has less references to
country/farm life.  it is even more fragile sounding.  the songs are more
stretched out.  there is more music.  there is more piano, less lovely tinny
keyboards.  it could possibly be a concept album.  it has more lastability,
and also took longer for me to get into.  it has at  least two songs about
jed the humanoid.  i was disappointed, however, that  the singer didn't do
his lovely high-pitched flaming lips style voice as much on this album.
it's still a nice voice that sounds on the edge of crying, but it's not as
high-pitched.

there's my advice.  (Why took my advice?).  of course, both albums are
DEFINITELY worth getting if one of them is.
they also have "the broken down comforter collection", but i don't.
apparently it compiles a couple of old EP's/b-sides.

by the way, there was a big debate in my local street press letters section
earlier this year about he surly, hipper-than-thou indie record store
attendant.  some thought they should learn manners.  others thought they
were an integral part of the "scene".  i like 'em... if you can "earn" their
respect for a few brief moments, you feel really special.  and at other
times they're just plain amusing.  of course, the fact that these mangy
bad-mannered ego-trippers are employed, and i am not, is a worry.

sorry.
not sorry.
good luck.
ben

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Subject: Sinister: Erm, this may or may not be my first post...

[edited]
> My dilemma: I'm in love with Grandaddy's song "Jed the Humanoid." It makes
> me well up because it's so sad and simply amazing. See, I've always had a
> soft spot for robots, I think they're shiny and sleek, and advanced, and
> misunderstood. Humans blame them for things they themselves programmed
into
> the robot. Robots throughout history have provided physical proof that
> humans are consistently blame someone else for their very own mistakes.
That
> makes me sad. And now that it's Xmas (I will from here on out refer to it
as
> Xmas, because I was always yelled at as a child for calling it Xmas, as it
> took the "true meaning" out of the holiday, AS IF THERE EVER WAS ANY!!?!
> XMAS XMAS XMAS, so there!), I'm once again reminded of my favorite
> stop-action animation specials like Frosty and Rudolph. You know the one
> with the last-year's-forgotten-xmas-toys? They always put a dull ache in
my
> heart and a lump in my throat. The song Jed The Humanoid makes me feel
just
> that. It blends the two realms of sadness in a tale of a forgotten,
> neglected past toy robot. With all kinds of great bleepy noises. And nice
> lyrical phrasings. On with my story...
>
> Now that I've heard one of Grandaddy's songs, I'd love to buy something
from
> them, but I don't know where to start. The local indie shop I used to
> frequent for information and help in these kinds of situations simply
turns
> up its collective nose (as they are a collective, y'see) at me anymore
when
> I ask questions -  since I've stopped going in there every other day and
> spending my life savings with them they have no time for me, not to
mention
> that if I do ever make it in, I have to go on my lunch hour from work
which
> means I'm in a suit'n'tie and therefore not hip enough to warrant
attention.
> So I've had no help from them. My newfound trusty friend CDNow turns up a
> fair amount of stuff when I search on Grandaddy, and I don't know which
one
> to buy to begin my collection.
>





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From room_30 at xxx.com  Tue Nov 28 22:58:51 2000
From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:58:51 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <F295oK5uA7liRtUvh1800007c58@hotmail.com>

finally, someone else who loves sigur ros! flantastic!
i think superfurrygurl has the coolest musical taste

just a quickie today then

oh i got tis in my inbox today, it's quite long so you might not want to 
read it but i think it should interest our american friends
(please dont be offended, it's all in fun)



NOTICE TO AMERICANS OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE
FROM THE GOVERNMENT OF HER MAJESTY QUEEN ELIZABETH II

To the citizens of the United States of America: In the
light of your failure to elect a President of the USA and
thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the
revocation of your independence, effective today.

Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume
monarchial duties over all states, commonwealths and other
territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy.

Your new prime minister (The rt. hon. Tony Blair, MP for the
97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is
a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for
America without the need for further elections. Congress and
the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be
circulated next year to determine whether any of you
noticed.

To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the
following rules are introduced with immediate effect

1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English
Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium". Check the
pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly
you have been pronouncing it. Generally, you should raise
your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary".
Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler
noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and
inefficient form of communication. Look up interspersed".

2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let
Microsoft know on your behalf.

3. Arrest Mel Gibson for treason.

4. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God
Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out task 1.
We would not want you to get confused and give up half way
through.

5. You should stop playing American "football". There is
only one kind of football. What you refer to as American
"football" is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are
aware that there is a world outside your borders may have
noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will
no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play
proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played
with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave
enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is
similar to American "football", but does not involve
stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full
kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get
together at least a US rugby sevens side by 2005.

6. Stop referring to the "World Series" of Baseball and
instead call it the "USA, Cuba and Japan Championship"

7. Learn to enjoy warm flat beer and steak and kidney
pudding. Train waitresses to be more aggressive with
customers and not to tell you their names before you eat.

8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 8th will
be a new national holiday, but only in England. It will be
called "Indecisive Day".

9. Driving on the left is now compulsory - recall all cars
to effect the change immediately.

10. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us
crazy.


damn, no content today, except maybe which belle and seb song do you all 
think is the most danceable?, my vote goes for electronic rennaissance, i've 
veen trying to drop something of theirs into my set when i dj for ages but 
nothing on tigermilk really works (its the only b n s thing i've got on 
vinyl) and electronic rennaissance isn't really representative of theie 
euvre (i've been trying to use that word for ages too)
maybe 'i could be dreaming might work', oh well whatever, nevermind

that was weak i admit but i'll try to think up something better for next 
time, honest

bye for now
pez*



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                                              anon
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From room_30 at xxx.com  Tue Nov 28 22:59:09 2000
From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:59:09 -0000
Subject: Sinister: sigur ros!
Message-ID: <F124qnD5FcgxXYiE0ik000079a7@hotmail.com>

finally, someone else who loves sigur ros! flantastic!
i think superfurrygurl has the coolest musical taste

just a quickie today then

oh i got tis in my inbox today, it's quite long so you might not want to 
read it but i think it should interest our american friends
(please dont be offended, it's all in fun)



NOTICE TO AMERICANS OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE
FROM THE GOVERNMENT OF HER MAJESTY QUEEN ELIZABETH II

To the citizens of the United States of America: In the
light of your failure to elect a President of the USA and
thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the
revocation of your independence, effective today.

Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume
monarchial duties over all states, commonwealths and other
territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy.

Your new prime minister (The rt. hon. Tony Blair, MP for the
97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is
a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for
America without the need for further elections. Congress and
the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be
circulated next year to determine whether any of you
noticed.

To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the
following rules are introduced with immediate effect

1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English
Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium". Check the
pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly
you have been pronouncing it. Generally, you should raise
your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary".
Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler
noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and
inefficient form of communication. Look up interspersed".

2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let
Microsoft know on your behalf.

3. Arrest Mel Gibson for treason.

4. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God
Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out task 1.
We would not want you to get confused and give up half way
through.

5. You should stop playing American "football". There is
only one kind of football. What you refer to as American
"football" is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are
aware that there is a world outside your borders may have
noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will
no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play
proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played
with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave
enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is
similar to American "football", but does not involve
stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full
kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get
together at least a US rugby sevens side by 2005.

6. Stop referring to the "World Series" of Baseball and
instead call it the "USA, Cuba and Japan Championship"

7. Learn to enjoy warm flat beer and steak and kidney
pudding. Train waitresses to be more aggressive with
customers and not to tell you their names before you eat.

8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 8th will
be a new national holiday, but only in England. It will be
called "Indecisive Day".

9. Driving on the left is now compulsory - recall all cars
to effect the change immediately.

10. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us
crazy.


damn, no content today, except maybe which belle and seb song do you all 
think is the most danceable?, my vote goes for electronic rennaissance, i've 
veen trying to drop something of theirs into my set when i dj for ages but 
nothing on tigermilk really works (its the only b n s thing i've got on 
vinyl) and electronic rennaissance isn't really representative of theie 
euvre (i've been trying to use that word for ages too)
maybe 'i could be dreaming might work', oh well whatever, nevermind

that was weak i admit but i'll try to think up something better for next 
time, honest

bye for now
pez*



'writing about music is like dancing about architecture'
                                              anon
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From pinefox at xxx.com  Tue Nov 28 23:05:18 2000
From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:05:18 -0000
Subject: Sinister: history, man
Message-ID: <LAW-F174TheTtwq8zjx0000bce3@hotmail.com>



I saw Malcolm Bradbury getting into a lift once. Ever since that day, folk 
have been asking if I was taught by him.

But I have a suspicion that he was a good liberal, and a good man. May his 
'god' go with him: or failing that, for a 'god' always fails 'that', may Vic 
Sage go with him. At the appropriate time. Don't hurry, Vic. We still need 
you around here.


******************************************

Mooro is back. But was he ever away? Yes. He was in 'Scotland'. That's where 
Stevie McTrouss� lives, so I hear. He - Mooro, not S McT - said:

>>>
First up was Whistler. A big bag of bollocks to their snotty cow of a singer 
still wearing same ugly dress) who compounded the evil of their tuneless 
racket by swearing at, taking the piss out of & getting a security man to 
threaten a member of the audience for having the temerity to .... dance!

- Ah, the temerity to dance. I remember when I had the temerity to dance.
- But didn't we all?
A pause.
- Before the war, I mean.
Another.
- The Gulf War.
- Ah.

I'm not crazy about Whistler either. But I suppose they do sing in tune. And 
their sets aren't drenched in feedback like most London duos' are these 
days.

The boy Casarotto is back. Indeed, the old guard is back. But what are they 
guarding? We'll find out, or not.

>>>I too haven't posted for a while as I've had nowt to say. Really. I did 
>>>have a *moment* with B&S the other day, when I was frustrated and moody

Cazza, you're frustrated and moody NOW. That much is obvious from your post, 
unless it's all a brilliantly elaborate hoax.

It is?

Oh.

>>>and I slipped the Black Sessions

what?

>>>Very nice, but not very interesting.

Kind of like Cazza. Oh, I don't mean it, son. Come back!

Golly. NickDastoor is the newest member of sinister, according to the front 
page. I'm not kidding.

>>>
Talking of Tiger Milk, some of the more bilious of you may remember Kevan 
Cooke's Catastrophic Cocktail Cabinet that we took to Bowlie.

I don't know that I do. Please tell us more. But I'll always be fond of the 
memories of KC's gin cabinet, such as it was. I mean it. Fold Your Hands has 
never sounded so good since; good though it has sounded.

LLLL spat

>>>I'm your huckleberry,

and I wonder what she means.

OldNewNickDastoor admitted

>>>I make a point of only fancying foul-tempered women,

and I wonder if he means it.

The lad Pennington whispered

>>>
We broke the ice and chatted with him awhile. I feel I ought not
to reveal the reason they were in New York, as it sounded rather
uncomfirmed, and it would betray some sort of pact. However, the
reason they were at the club was to see the Go-Betweens.
>>>

By gad. Do us a favour, Mick. Are you seriously trying to tell us that the 
reason that the B&S lads were at a club was to see the Go-Betweens? Your 
smokescreen is lighter than air, if you catch my drift. It's *obvious* that 
B&S would never go to a club to see the Go-Betweens. They went - we all know 
it already, don't be coy - to keep their appointment with you! It all 
revolves around their new 10-LP deal with Sandcastle records. 'Some sort of 
pact'? Well, really. Your negotiations with the band have been an open 
secret for about the last 7 months! Just stop trying to pretend you're not 
at the centre of events. We know you are really.

Jordi Cruyff grinned

>>>Mr.Miller gave me some issues of the also unique Chickfactor
fanzine, which is absolutely twee.

I am rather surprised by that judgement. The tweeest thing I ever saw in 
chickfactor was their interview with a girl drummer named Adris from the 
band 'harry pussy'. Harry Pussy released two flexi-discs in 1993. One was 
'sunflower pussy' b/w 'i've found a way to mercury'. The second, specially 
released on Edinburgh's Bomb The Sherberts label (for more info write Jock 
Cavendish, 24d) Mickercandie Road, Lothian, ED1 QED. Enclose SAE), was the 
lovely 'she comes out with the flowers after the rain', b/w 'rainbird boy' 
and the 1minute, 20second bonus track 'pussy's gone'. They really were very 
twee. Get a load of this extract from the interview.

>>>
- what's your rider?
- ah always wanted a poany. it would be nice if being in the band would let 
me have mah oan poany.
- do you like to trip and stuff?
- noo, no' really. Ah hurt my knee when I do tha'.
- what do you have in your fridge?
- hee-hee - a little bit of... rhubarb.
- do you get sick of how all the girls in bands are badmouthing each other 
all the time?
- ah was sick last week. My mooth hurt.
- where will you take us when we come to glasgow?
- oh, there's a lovely playground near my da's hoose with a lovely rocking 
horse. I ripped ma cardigan on it once tho.
>>>

So, yes, that was a bit twee. But most of the readership and staff nowadays 
actually consists of Hasidic bikers, lumberjacks, that kind of thing. If you 
want to see a picture of the typical chickfactor reader see

http://www.adequacy.net/int/flare/flare2.shtml


***************************

Goodbye, Professor Bradbury.


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From matt at xxx.uk  Sun Nov 26 07:50:30 2000
From: matt at xxx.uk (Matt Tullett)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 07:50:30 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Bowlie/All Tomorrow's Parties Tape
References: <3A1FAC85.D166D80C@netscapeonline.co.uk>
Message-ID: <001901c0577d$b73f95a0$4e5a883e@fsnet.co.uk>

I have always wanted to start my own record label. Well ok I always wanted
to be in a
band, but have no musical talent whatsoever. Anyway, it was after going to
the Belle &
Sebastian Bowlie festival 1999 that made me even more determined to start my
own
record label. At the festival I had been given a tape. The tape had been
collated by two
labels, it was pretty professional looking and it got me excited and made me
wanting to
do the same. Eventually I managed to get six bands interested in submitting
a song to be
put onto a compilation tape, the first release from Spiteful Records. The
idea was to give
this away free at the next Bowlie.

The next Bowlie, now renamed "All Tomorrow's Parties" organised by Mogwai
was
cancelled at the end of 1999 due to poor ticket sales, but it was
rescheduled for April
2000. By that time I had no holiday left to take at work so I had no way of
going to All
Tomorrow's Parties and therefore no way of giving out my tape for free.
But the sad story doesn't end there, you see I still have some copies left
of the
compilation called "A Shrinking World." I had quite a few made, 300 to be
exact.
Anyway, I did managed to shift a few tapes at the Christmas gig at the Arts
Centre in
Norwich 1999, but now nearly a year on I still feel the bands and their
music deserve to
be heard so if you wish to receive a copy then you can either e-mail me at:
matt at spitefulrecords.fsnet.co.uk with your full  address, or write to me at
Spiteful Records
Cornerways
New North Road
Attleborough
Norfolk
NR17 2BJ

Your free tape will be sent straight away.

Matt

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From n.barr at xxx.uk  Wed Nov 29 02:29:48 2000
From: n.barr at xxx.uk (Niall Barr)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 02:29:48 -0000
Subject: Sinister: ususl v-twin meanderings
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From Walkn10 at xxx.com  Wed Nov 29 05:19:50 2000
From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 00:19:50 EST
Subject: Sinister: She wants a boy who laughs at everyone, who goes with her like bullets in a gun
Message-ID: <78.d425211.2755ebf6@aol.com>

Hello Sinister Massive,

I couldn't help noticing a recent thread regarding women's prediliction 
toward dating liars, thieves and malcontents...bad boys.  Having been the 
unwitting victim of this time and time again, I would love to be clued in as 
to what the big deal is.  I have my theories, but given that I'm not a woman, 
they're probably pretty misinformed.
My theory is that women want something to mother and mold and scold, rather 
than some thumb-sucker or all-around nice guy who's just waiting on their 
every sneeze to brandish a box of tissues.  Maybe its also because neglect is 
such a "manly" thing, that unless a guy repeatedly ignores a girl he doesn't 
seem "manly."  Why do women want it hard? (not like that, you perverts)  I 
always hear my women friends moaning about how they want a guy "who's 
normal...who's nice...who'll buy us flowers," when what they really want is 
all of that followed by the phrase "once a year."  I have bought women 
flowers for no reason, sereneded them with love songs, complimented them up 
and down, missed a kegger to watch "You've Got Mail" etc., only to be left 
behind for guys who forgot their birthday and would later cheat on them with 
an ex- or something.  It seems like as soon as a woman knows she has a guy, I 
mean really and truly HAS a guy, then she doesn't want him anymore.  Guys are 
very much like this too, so I guess we have no room to talk.  Perhaps people 
aren't comfortable unless they're uncomfortable, unless there's that 
every-present feeling that any minute something COULD go wrong (even if it 
never does).  Maybe it ties in with wanting someone independent, someone who 
could do without you quite easily, thank you very much.  I have no clue.  I 
just know all my overly romantic friends are also the ones who are the 
loneliest and I wish I could understand why.
Ferris Bueller once said, "You can't respect someone who kisses your ass...it 
just doesn't work."  Perhaps that says it all.


Perfecting the art of imperfection...

Steve C.
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From declan63 at xxx.com  Wed Nov 29 05:50:54 2000
From: declan63 at xxx.com (jay)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 00:50:54 -0500
Subject: Sinister: like a lady in the chamber, and another in the clip
References: <78.d425211.2755ebf6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001701c059c8$57445080$2a101218@athen1.ga.home.com>


----- Original Message -----
From: <Walkn10 at xxx.com>
To: <sinister at missprint.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:19 AM
Subject: Sinister: She wants a boy who laughs at everyone, who goes with her like bullets in a gun


> Hello Sinister Massive,
It seems like as soon as a woman knows she has a guy, I
> mean really and truly HAS a guy, then she doesn't want him anymore.  Guys are
> very much like this too, so I guess we have no room to talk.  Perhaps people
> aren't comfortable unless they're uncomfortable, unless there's that
> every-present feeling that any minute something COULD go wrong (even if it
> never does).  Maybe it ties in with wanting someone independent, someone who
> could do without you quite easily, thank you very much.  I have no clue.  I
> just know all my overly romantic friends are also the ones who are the
> loneliest and I wish I could understand why.
> Ferris Bueller once said, "You can't respect someone who kisses your ass...it
> just doesn't work."  Perhaps that says it all.

yes, yes, where is the line between "attentive" and "fawning"?  i'm not sure i know.  both sexes seem to have trouble with the whole
"thrill of the chase" thing ending, and wondering who else out there one might be missing.  and yes, i believe being young and
romantic is often problematic, to say the least, for males anyway.  it sure isn't helping me!  i dunno.  my theory is that i'm not
the super-exciting, somewhat dangerous and unpredictable boyfriend that seems to rate so highly, but i don't want to be that person
either and i'm much much better "husband" material.  i hope i'm not actually dreadfully boring.....but certainly, rather unassuming.
i've often been called "clark kent".  see the photo...i rest my case.  the problem is that i've been this way since about fifteen
and i'm still not quite in step with most women my age.  which is not to say i assume they'll just "grow into me", but, maybe in
another ten years, i'll be reappraised or something.

well, i've got to hope i'll have the advantage at *some* point, right?  :)

then again, i could be completely wrong........and wouldn't that be grand.

jay, who is trying to keep up his end of the deal, sk

"isn't that love?"  "no, that's respect and admiration"



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From cellophanesky at xxx.com  Wed Nov 29 06:07:01 2000
From: cellophanesky at xxx.com (Brian Pennington)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 01:07:01 -0500
Subject: Sinister: How will I get her to strike a pose?
Message-ID: <a05010400b64a41cb6eb7@[64.152.164.90]>

Hello,
    I like this whole 'posting' thing. It's fun. I'd never classify 
myself as a lurker. I would classify myself as someone who is 
extroverted yet too lazy to post often.

    So I'm not just posting for posting's sake. Honest. Cross my 
heart. I have been listening to B&S a lot this week. In fact I 
brought Sinister along with me on Monday, a thoroughly irritating day 
in which I worked far too many hours. But I was struck by how 
distinct it was from FISHYCLAP for the first time. It feels all 
acoustic and timid in comparison. FISHYCLAP is confidant and lush. I 
find myself liking it a lot more just now. It's funny though, when I 
first listened to it, it really didn't sound that different. But 
after you let it sink in maybe. Who knows...

     I like the inferences people made about my last post. Let's just 
say the jury is out. But I don't believe in happy endings anyway. 
Anything that ends isn't happy. Happiness should be ongoing. 
Continuing happiness. Endings are for books and films.

     You know, meeting Struan was a bit of a two-edged sword. While 
the good reasons ought to be obvious, the bad reason is now I keep 
thinking of things I *ought* to have said. Maybe I should make a 
small list and keep it in my hip pocket for any occasion that I might 
run into him. That wouldn't look odd or anything would it? I realized 
that I came *this* close to wearing my Study at Stow t-shirt. That 
would have been awkward...

     And is that picture on Amihotornot actually him? Does this mean 
Struan has a weiner dog!? Or maybe it's someone else's weiner dog. I 
like them. Weiner dogs, I mean. Whoever those weiner dog-owners were, 
their rating wasn't all that bad when I looked at it.

     I listen to a lot of music that doesn't sound like B&S. Lately 
I've been listening to albums where people seem to aurally throw 
their guitars up into the air, and wait for them to come back down. 
Takes quite a while though. They just flit languidly about up there, 
echoing bemusedly. The band doesn't really seem to mind either. They 
just keep on singing for the most part.

     I think I'm going to try & go see the Go-Betweens again on 
Thursday. I sort of doubt Struan will make a second appearance. 
Although...he has to discuss their impending 10-LP deal deal with me, 
apparently. Or so I hear.

     Hm, so a curious instance of life imitating song, I'm going to be 
taking some photographs of the object of my furtive glances this 
weekend. I'm quite excited at the prospect. After hearing "Photo 
Jenny" it sounds like quite the thing to do. Except I'm not having 
trouble getting her to do it and I don't need any drugs to help me 
out at all really. But it still all fits together in my mind.

     Photographs are fantastic things for a bedsit sentamentalist. 
There's something inherently romantic about them. Like placing the 
needle of turntable on a warm, crackly record. Clicking the shutter, 
adjusting the aperture, and especially developing the film. The 
romance of that wears off quick though, after too many hours spent in 
dimly lit rooms with the sound of water running, and the smell of the 
chemicals.

     Not only have I begun to ramble, but I think I'm finished 
rambling. If you're expecting an e-mail from me it will be just the 
slightest bit longer. If you're not expecting an e-mail from me, you 
should be feeling fine just now, and wondering why I haven't stopped 
typing.

-- 
Brian Pennington, aka Mick McMick | cellophanesky at mac.com | ICQ# 39021436
Sandcastle Records: <http://www.indiepages.com/sandcastle/>
the Cellophane Sky:<http://home.earthlink.net/~cellophanesky/the/index.html>
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From kpc98c at xxx.UK  Wed Nov 29 07:25:17 2000
From: kpc98c at xxx.UK (Kenneth P Y Chu)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 07:25:17 +0000
Subject: Sinister: See door sign
Message-ID: <200011290720.HAA29464@missprint.org>

Hello,

I always used to worry when I post things, because all I could write is 
rubbish, and then I read that enter.ie thingie and I realised that not 
only am I supposed to post rubbish on the list all the time, it makes me 
a true Belle and (king) Sebastian fan!

I agree with the fact that this list being e-mail only is too restrictive 
tho, I think we should make this list paper based instead and each time 
we write a message we should send it to everyone else on the list by land 
mail.  That'd be a grate idea.

Actually it's a rubbish idea really isn't it?  As if those silly people 
with no computers are worthy of being a real fan.

(Ken takes this time to laugh at the lurkers on the list - Ha ha ner ner)

And now to establish my fandom I shall talk about other people on the list 
(the real ones, who post) to look as if I am reading all the mails (which I 
do, of course being a real fan :))

did I mention I post too?

Jonny Five said:
>>ps there has been a lot of discussion about love and crushes recently. can
i just say 'ha!' because i got list-crushed, and '*sob*' because i've never
been crushed in real life. not in a good way anyway. <<

I have done one better (worse) by having never been crushed in the real life 
or in the list.  Beat that :)

Chris perriman said:
>>6. Stop referring to the "World Series" of Baseball and
instead call it the "USA, Cuba and Japan Championship"<<

Wow, the wonders that you learn from pub quizzes, apparently, the World Series 
is called that not because people in the USA think that they are the world, but 
it was because it was originally sponsored by the "New York World" newspaper. 
If they ask you this in your next pub quiz.. you know where your crush vote is 
going :)

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...................................................

My body clock has gone mad, I think it's in fact gone schizophrenic, one 
day I fall asleep at 8pm, the next day I don't sleep til 4 in the morning, 
and of course, it is 7:30am now, I haven't slept but it's a silly time to 
go to bed.

I might have to resort to some medicine to fix my sleeping schedule... 
maybe something that will keep me awake for longer until it's the right 
time to sleep again.. some liquid maybe, that comes in a can... :)

Real B&(k)S fans  and Red Bulls
Ken
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From chrislampinen at xxx.com  Wed Nov 29 07:31:29 2000
From: chrislampinen at xxx.com (chris lampinen)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 02:31:29 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Hey, what did you do with my pants?
Message-ID: <F53T4aJ6pkNzPZrIkyP00008425@hotmail.com>

Hi.

My name is Christiaan and I justgotoutof the nursery and this is my first 
post and I'm reallyreallyreally excited.  I hope you guys like me because 
I've been skimming the archives and you guys all seem radder than ripe 
tomatoes.

No, inaccurate: you guys ARE radder than ripe tomatoes.  I really hope I am 
accepted into your community.

So! First off I just heard the new Christmas song.  I think it's the best 
B&S track since "Waiting for the Sun to Rise," and that says it all, doesn't 
it?

Now to the important stuff.  My life!  I need advice.  It is crazy like a 
wild squirrel, and wild squirrels are crazy like turtles.  Yeah?  Yeah.  So 
here's the scoop (pick a flavor): there are three people in my eye right 
now.

Person number one is a boy.  Let us call him 'Milkmaaid.'  I am totally 
lusting over Milkmaaid.  He is SO fucking hot that I can't believe it 
sometimes.  However, I have two problems.
1) Milkmaaid is a boy.  I am a girl-lover.  So, how do I get to bat for his 
team without actually leaving my own?
2) Milkmaaid seems to not really exist.  I've never really seen him...Except 
in mirrors.  Is he maybe a ghost or something?  This makes it extremely hard 
to get sweet luvins because, well, there is no body to grope.

Anyway.  I want a piece of Milkmaaid.  Badly.  But see, it gets more 
complicated...

I have an unrequited crush on a girl.  We shall call her, hm, say, 
Millkmaid.  Millkmaid is super-mysterious.  Who is this mystery girl who I 
pine for?  Why do I pine for her at all?  I think it has something to do 
with crocheting.  Meelkmaid, who I will discuss in just seven seconds if you 
read at the correct rate and will hold your horses thankyouverymuch, also 
crochets.  Hm.  Another frightening simularity between the two: neither 
crochet for money.  Yes, that's right-- free hookers.

So I have a lustboy and a crushgirl.  One, two.

And that leaves Meelkmaid.  Oh, Meelkmaid!  Meelkmaid stayed with me for a 
week.  We walked through the park kicking leaves, gazed at the steaming 
manholes in detroit (she LOVES the steaming manholes), watched movies about 
ballet and homosexuals, and dressed in each others clothing.  You see where 
I am going, right?  Yeah, I think I fell in love.  In the comfort of my own 
home, no less.  Whoops!  Please don't yell at me!  Sometimes I feel like I'm 
on a cloud and the onl--

No, not really.  Although sometimes I have to pee really bad and I feel like 
I'm going to explode, which is kind of the same thing.  Right?

Now what do I do?  Do I go for:

--------------------------------------------------
a) Lust      [ ]
b) Mystery   [ ]
c) Love      [ ]
--------------------------------------------------

Please vote!  Your Christiaan needs you.

In other news:  I have glittery boot cut girls jeans.  Yeah, they hug my 
bum, and I like it. So hmph.

Now, how are you?

x

Love,
Princess Christiaan

Mad Props to the other two Princesses:  Princess Honeylove and Princess 
Starry Sarah

Word to Pookie G. for finally putting christiaan;nuts on the map

Shot out to Miss Crush for the hook up (and my mystery voter for giving me 
self esteem [unless mystery voter was myself, which is quite possible])


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"Flint is dominated/but never imitated/the others perpetrated/but still we 
regulated"
--The Dayton Family

"I know you wanna do it/you know I wanna do it too/out here on the dance 
floor/yeah we can make sandwiches"
--Detroit Grand Pubahs
                                                   <3
"I fly without wings"                      PLUR <3 <3 <3 PLUR
--Barbie                       /xoxoxoxoxoxoxo christiaan xoxoxoxoxoxoxo\
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From angel_blackwell at xxx.com  Wed Nov 29 14:29:00 2000
From: angel_blackwell at xxx.com (angel blackwell)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 09:29:00 -0500
Subject: Sinister: well, i'm finally a bald angel...
Message-ID: <F119Oh8s4KWiGtXsL1c000002fc@hotmail.com>

well, this angel has been in a little funk lately...actually there has been 
someone inside me screaming and tormenting me as of late...and it's not been 
good news at all...
i've done something a little rash, and well i don't have hair anymore...and 
it's made me delightfully happy.
i have been hanging around in #sinister a lot as well...i finally got to 
talk to JenOwl...that made me very happy...and i get to talk to people like 
dafyd and lauren and brians and rouss's and something called honey...yeah, 
that little starlet honey has quite the potty mouth on her, but i won't hurt 
all the rest of your little ears...but ask her about frenchmen...
man, i can't stop rubbing my newly bald head...
anyway, i heard part of that xmas album...i like it...i'm another one of 
those who don't really like xmas, but i'm just the canadian grinch is 
all...actually, i will be really happy when i see the animated grinch, 
rudolph and charles le brun...then i will smile...then i will be with my 
family and won't be smiling...but this is a big xmas this year...boyfriend 
gets to come home with me, now we'll both be little bald men at the adults' 
table...will see how this goes...
oh and toronto little boys and girls and inbetweens...we are organizing a 
night either b4 new years or the friday after...(i'm currently in 
negotiations...) and the infamous matt will be here...they won't let me dj, 
but it will be a good night and i will post details later........
right, i'm supposed to be working or something...
a.
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From vodkabird at xxx.com  Wed Nov 29 15:04:18 2000
From: vodkabird at xxx.com (vodkabird at xxx.com)
Date: 29 Nov 2000 10:04:18 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Re: like a lady in the chamber, and another in the clip
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From athenaofme at xxx.com  Thu Nov 30 01:40:36 2000
From: athenaofme at xxx.com (lisa morrison)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 01:40:36 -0000
Subject: Sinister: the T of literary A
Message-ID: <F118ymQ1WE9ql2RkeS800007a2d@hotmail.com>

any post with this type of sexual connotation would have to be
from lisa (er-...me)
hot topic has been the (quote, unquote) hard man...chalk me
up on the board along side the rest, but the hard man stands as the
best...a certain listee can even vouch for that one as our phone 
conversation last night consisted of me practically begging him
to show some spunk and fight with me. pull hair, slap, wrap me in
red vinyl and roll me down the stairs, chain me to bed post,
want to "ow" at my head smacking against backboard, play with knives,
hell-play with hot sauce but stay off the highways...
it's the challange...don't want to take it easy, anyone can do that...
thrill me, frighten me...rap-tap on my window pane and wake me late at 
night, hide in fridges, hang off porches, ransack my room
keep me occupied for heavens sake...
men are like alchohol. drink hard or don't drink at all. i want something 
that cracks my jaw like a fist...keeps me giddy all night
and sore-eyed in the morning...none of this malibu baybreeze shit...i
don't want sugary sweet...i want to taste what fucks me up b/c that's the 
stuff with the power...i want it bitter and smelling like it came straight 
from the medicine cabinet...
you want me than want me on my toes, wondering about you, thinking about 
you...walking around with that what-will-you-do-next preoccupied expression 
on my face through the office and the library, down the street...
you could even break my b&s cd's...if you think you can handle the 
reaction...(content)
can i pause and catch my breath for a minute here?
let's all take a deep one.
...any problems just call me in the morning...i'll be the one with the dark 
glasses.
-lisa
   being yr ideal or so...
                                           bulls blood toasts for
                                           the slm makes me do
                                           bad things on my kitchen
                                           floor.

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From jmcf at xxx.ca  Thu Nov 30 00:28:20 2000
From: jmcf at xxx.ca (jmcf)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:28:20 -0500
Subject: Sinister: >lola
References: <20001127222804.5586.qmail@web10906.mail.yahoo.com> <140kus-1P1heyC@fwd05.sul.t-online.com>
Message-ID: <3A259F24.91B67A4B@sympatico.ca>

Juergen Hammes wrote:
> 
> > Derek s wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone seen "Run Lola Run"? I watched it for
> > about the eighth time last night and was re-amazed all
> > over again.
> Is that "Lola Rennt"? I know I should watch it, but I still haven't been
> bothered to go to the video shop. Maybe I should borrow it ?! I don't know. But
> Franka Potente is great.
> 
>

Eight times? WoW! Well, Run Lola Run *is* an amazingly fine film. 

Run Lola Run is indeed the English name for Lola rennt. And Franka
Potente does kick ass nineteen different ways from last Tuesday.

hey everyone, here's some things that sound funny in German...

ankle = foot-knuckle (Fussknoechel)
glove = hand-shoe  (Handschuh)

and, hehe, wait for it....

nipple = breast-wart  (Brustwartze) [warning: not a joke] ;-)

Now there's a language that refuses to make up a new word unless
ab-so-lute-ly necessary. 

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From secretmysterydate at xxx.com  Thu Nov 30 04:49:06 2000
From: secretmysterydate at xxx.com (a star is born)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:49:06 -0500
Subject: Sinister: pittsburgh, listen up!
Message-ID: <F2538cqeI3FoO6Nstib000090d0@hotmail.com>

a message to anyone in the pittsburgh area:

i am playing this saturday, Dec 2, with a part of my band and solo at an 
Amnesty Internation benefit show this weekend at the Underground at Carnegie 
Mellon University. I don't know exactly where it is, but if you would like 
to come, email me and i will find out.

i would love some of you to come.

much love
sam
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From chrislampinen at xxx.com  Thu Nov 30 09:16:50 2000
From: chrislampinen at xxx.com (chris lampinen)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:16:50 -0500
Subject: Sinister: Crying on the inside, but also the outside and in between
Message-ID: <F127QxzmWecm9t0CI7600009b4c@hotmail.com>

Hi babydolls.

I've been carefully counting my posts since sinister first started and 
tonight is a big night for me.  Yes, it's true-- this is my 100th post.  
Break out the finest orange juice! Pony rides for everyone! Hooray for 
Christiaan!  I can't believe it's been so long.  It seems like just 
yesterday that I was popping out of the nursery for my first post.  Oh, how 
the time flies!

I woke up this morning and it seemed like any other day.  I live in a very 
large house with my parents and two sisters.  We are quite wealthy and 
everyone has an individual servant.  I leaned over from my bed for my 
english muffin and tea (served in a silver kettle mind you) and found to my 
dismay-- strawberry jam!  EVERYone knows that I prefer rasberry.  I calmy 
called for my servent who pranced into the room.

"Yes, Princess Christiaan, what do you desire?"
"Your hot sexy body on top of me and naked, NOW!"

No I didn't really say that.

"I would like to listen to Belle and Sebastian on the stereo, please."
"Yes, Princess, what you desire shall be done."
"Well in that case, I'd like some sweaty luvins, baby!

No not really

"Thank you, Jonathan."
He put on "If You're Feeling Sinister." On vinyl, of course, as any princess 
would have.
"Is there anything else you would like, Princess?"
"No, that will be all. Thank you love."
He started to walk away.  As soon as his back was turned I threw the kettle 
at him.  Direct hit to the back of the head.  He fell over, bleeding.
"Excuse me, but when did I ask you to start putting strawberry jam on my 
english muffin?  What? I can't hear you, Jonathan (note that he had passed 
out so this was quite a witty thing to say).  Oh, I must not have asked you 
to then!  Serves you right you bastard!"

Since when did the right flavor of jam become too much to ask?  Life is 
indeed harsh.
I wanted to have Jonathan executed but Pappy would have none of it.  
Speaking of Pappy:

When I was a wee princess my closest friend gave me a glass unicorn as a 
gift.  I loved the unicorn; I felt that it alone could make me happy.  
Pappy, unfortunately, did not feel the same.  Laughing, he would take the 
unicorn and place it on top of the fridge, teetering over the edge.
Teetering,
teetering,
te
  et
    er
      in
        g
(please note diagonal text and repetition for emphasis)

(note extra space to build tension)

He would then go to the dining hall for pints, the bastard.  Anyway.
I would stand, staring, waiting for one of the following:
1) Pappy would come back and give me my unicorn, and I would be happy.
2) The unicorn would come tumbling down and shatter on the floor.
3) The unicorn would stay there, forever, as I would.

My life hasn't changed much since then.

So.  I hope you are all rejoicing over my 100th post as I would be if it was 
yours.  I love you all dearly.  And please remember: life can be difficult, 
even for a princess.  Love everyone.

xoxoxoxo

With love and love,
Your Princess Christi-aan

Big upz to Joan of Dark for finally coming to #sinster and being nice and 
charming and other things like that.

Shout out to Marie Elia; I'll give you some words as soon as I find them

Phat greetz to Michelle from Ann Arbor; you will take my record shopping, 
miss, you will: I *am* a princess after all

Finally mad luvins to You, dear sinisterine, for being a lovely person.

xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox

"Mutha fuck D/mutha fuck M/only X I know is Xzibit or RBX"
-Kurupt

"But I won't cry for yesterday/there's an ordinary world/somehow I have to 
find"
-Duran Duran

"I've been searchin' in the woods/and high up on the hills/just to find, to 
find my samurai"
-SMILE.dk                                                  PLUR
                                                 /|xoxo christiaan xoxo|\
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox
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From vanessa.siegl at xxx.at  Thu Nov 30 10:43:20 2000
From: vanessa.siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa Roseline Siegl)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:43:20 +0100
Subject: Sinister: on liking hard men, home education and all the rest
Message-ID: <3A262F48.2DEE82A7@uibk.ac.at>

Hello everyone ----


After reading all those posts on linking "emninem" and such ... I personally somehow ... fail to see
the appeal ...

 I guess I am someone who gets scared easily  and aggression directed towrwards me or others is
bound to either make me cry or go all sarcastic

(I met some prototypes of "hard men" in my life ... including one guy who gave me detailed
descriptions of all the crimes he had commited ... and as I was standing at the station waiting for
a train he told me how he would love to push someone when the train came in. I told him to say it a
bit louder and see how many people would step back from the rails then ...
He seemed to be on the outlook for a girlfriend .... believe me I was glad when he got off the train
and I was alone again ----)

Also I am much stronger than I look and very macho (ever since I helped my best friend (the one I
made a best-of belle and sebastian compilation nearly two years ago ... he even likes them)  to
clear out his  cellar his dad always tells him to "call the lunatic" when it comes to carrying heavy
stuff)
I am normally the one walks (or used to as I don't have one right now) round the car to open the
door for guys who got a lift with me .. who wants buy people drinks or at least pay for her own ---

My point .. hmmmm ... if I ever came accross "eminem" I'd RUN--- very very fast. And hide in the
toilett. And climb out of the window.


Home education .... 

I have quite mixed views on this ...
Arguments against it have mostly been that kids never learn to interact with others their age ..
True enough ..
But I guess you'll have to look at your kid as an individual ...and not map out all their future
education at a very early point in their lives ...


I dont think home education would have been a solution for me .. but "normal" school was a sheer
nightmare for me ...
I guess what I learned there via interaction was that I would never be liked and only tolerated if I
was lucky (except for a few special people)

What I also learned was that people don't forget ,,, once the freak always the freak ...
And I was lucky cos I never got beaten up ... just hassled by words ...

I guess there are ways of home education where parents get together and take turns in teaching .. so
you would have a group of say 20 children ...

that would also take care of the problem of one person heavily influencing a child / one-sided
education ...

take care everybody!   v/x

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From velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk  Thu Nov 30 10:04:55 2000
From: velocity_girl_is at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?velocity=20farewell?=)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:04:55 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: I'll bReAk YoUr LeGs iF YoU StoP mE DaNciNg / a year after!
Message-ID: <20001130100455.27179.qmail@web3006.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello the land of sinistah!

It's been a while... many things HaPPeNeD!
GHD my bleu prince showed his fluffy head again,
Mark-o-C posted as well, and so did miss lovely fellow
spinisterine Laura Llew! There some new faces around,
some come in bright colours, some just faint away,
others explode in the sky like verbal fireworks and
dissapear... 
I booked my tickets for London, arriving on the 29th
December with my darling Elena, if things go well,
SpOoKy the DoG may be arriving with me and I expect
certain listees to keep their promise and take her for
her walkies in the park... 
I'm really tempted to start slagging holidays off, but
I won't; not this time... I liked so much though what
Pamela (was it?) said about smoking booths in big
stores... there's a certain racism against smokers
innit?
I went to see BaXeNdALe last Sunday... they were
absolutely GrEaT! I know some people in this list
despise Baxendale but I do love them so! Since I've
first heard them a year ago... I remember when my
friend Dmitry brought "music for girls" and he played
it in my front room... we started jumping around and,
yes, we loved them instantly!
I like their sounds, I like the playful way they deal
with music... it's kind of ironic and it's kind of sad
sometimes... it seems like they declare their
childishness in a disarming way, refusing to grow
up...
and they're stylish, in an 80s, yet, mulet-less way!!
So, on Sunday I had to drive for 240km to go to the
city where they were playing... my friend's car broke
down and having nowhere to leave spooky the dog, I
thought that there was no way of me getting there for
the gig... I went really mad about it... so, I called
a cab and paid 1/10 of my monthly salary to the
cabbie!
The gig place was half full when I arrived with some
friends... Johnk from this list was there as well and
I spotted a girl with a 'if you're feeling sinister'
tshirt on... I didn't talk to her though, so, if she's
in the list, sorry...
We got completely pissed before the gig drunk a bottle
of vodka... Senay was telling stories about how she
broke one of her teeth whilst Alex and Tim were
fooling around with toy-speaking-trumpets!
Then, they went on stage and none of us stopped
dancing through their whole set! We were quite
dissapointed that they didn't play "switzerland", but
then, Tim came back on stage and played the song just
by himself with an acoustic guitar... whilst images
were projecting behind them on a big white screen "PoP
wiLL SaVe oUr SouLs" and "gO EleCtRiC"...
Walking around and talking with people after the gig,
I heard a radio producer saying that Senay should be
singing with the Osmonds!! 
And the night was still young...
But that was my bax-story from last Sunday... "she
always cries on Sundays", well, not this one...
B&S context... baxendale started a song with a sample
of "dog on wheels"... yes, that's all...
My new friend little Johnn, aged 7 years old, brought
me a bouquet again... this time was a bouquet of
uprooted peppers! I could use some of them for BeAn
SoUp I suppose...
I bumbed on a car the other day with my scooter and I
lost a little piece of its front... 
I bought a CD by Brian, a band I've discovered lately
and I'm totally enchanted... they're early 90s and
irish... I think...
that's all... 
take care you lot...
hugs
    Vel xxx





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From Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk  Thu Nov 30 11:06:33 2000
From: Stuart.Gardiner at xxx.uk (Gardiner, Stuart)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:06:33 -0000
Subject: Sinister: Blue canary in the corner by the lightswitch, who watches over yo
	u?
Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E430277540D@lotus.ntu.ac.uk>

New Boy Nick wrote:

> Big Stu thinks that there's hope for him if girls have crushes on Eminem.
Is this the same Big Stu I used to know?  Have his jungle adventures
transformed him from an amiably bumbling fool into a foul-mouthed
multiple-personalitied monster?  Or is the allure of the 'difficult man'
lost on him? 

Well, it looks like I've been rumbled. All those photos and stories about me
getting stranded in the Amazon rainforest and so on
(www.science.ntu.ac.uk/msor/skg, hint hint...) are actually just a front. I
really spent the last year in LA, getting down wiv da hood. I was even voted
"most-improved pistol-whipper" at this year's gangland awards ceremony. But
they forced me out of town when my homies discovered I listened to B&S.
Twee, my arse.

I still reckon in ten years time Eminem will be as well-respected as Vanilla
Ice, though.

And I'll amiably bumbling fool you, Dastoor...


Meanwhile, on the other side of this fair city, Ken was being informative:

> Wow, the wonders that you learn from pub quizzes, apparently, the World
Series is called that not because people in the USA think that they are the
world, but it was because it was originally sponsored by the "New York
World" newspaper.

But that still doesn't explain why they named this year's series after a
well-known chain of sandwich shops.


Oh yeah, and props (whatever the hell they are) to Lisa for bringing the
smut back to Sinister, which has been sadly lacking recently. That must be
what the old guard have been guarding. Let's face it, that's all we ever
used to talk about (well, that and long discussions about the nature of
P!O!P!, with strange people with strange names like Tag, The Duke Of
Harringay and Peter Miller).


I had my first Christmas dinner of the year last night. Until there was a
power-cut just before we got to the desserts. Maybe someone up there wants
us to wait until December before celebrating as well...

Big Stu
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From jkananen at xxx.net  Thu Nov 30 13:07:49 2000
From: jkananen at xxx.net (j r kananen)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 05:07:49 -0800
Subject: Sinister: Crying on the inside, but also the outside and in between
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>"I've been searchin' in the woods/and high up on the hills/just to find, to
>find my samurai"
>-SMILE.dk

isn't that from that arcade game Dance Dance Revolution?  I wonder if there
will ever be a belle and sebastian song in that game..........maybe
electronic renaissance, but it'd only be a one footer since it's so slow in
comparison to the rest of the songs which average in at 4 million bpm.
besides I perfer Drum Mania =)

Jason

oh BTW if anyone is interested in getting a copy of "The State I am In" (I
mean the short film I am doing for my film class...) email me, I'll send you
one for the holy-days (as long as you live in the continental united states,
I need my right hand for using the camera) =)

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From idleberry at xxx.com  Thu Nov 30 14:09:06 2000
From: idleberry at xxx.com (idleberry)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 06:09:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: does this sound familiar? 
Message-ID: <20001130140906.27889.qmail@web618.mail.yahoo.com>

hiya all..
well, here I am again, living with a headcase. The
sweet one from Uzbekistan decided to launch himself
into a tirade of verbal abuse on Tuesday night, and I
have no idea why.
HE asks to speak to me.
I say okay.
he says hes pissed off.
He says he hates me.
I ask why.
He says everything.
I ask to sit down and discuss it.
I tried to discuss it, but he said hes not going to be
my scape goat, and no excuses.
then it starts getting mean. I'm shocked, and for
once, speechless.
I am apparently an F***ing C*** (Rhymes with runt)
I am an f***er.
I am a vampire. (look, I might have dark hair, dark
eyes and skin so pale that a goth would die for it, I
might have no reflection, but until Buffy comes loking
for me, there is no proof.)
I am alot of things, it would seem. 
I am a hateful person. 
He hates me. (repeated several times, along with
f***er and c***)
apparently its everything I do.
Its everything I am.
Hes always hated me.
he wishes I was dead.
He would like to kill me.

Irritatingly, he waited til there was nobody else in
the kitchen to go nuts. So now, although I know what
happened, he played it down to my female flatmate, and
I don't know if she believes me. Well, would you
believe that the sweetest, quietest and most gentle
person can turn like that? I didn't, not til it dawned
on me.

So what did I do? 
I phoned the boyfriend. In tears. Hes very good at
this supportive thing, you know.
I called a pal, he came over and we drank tiger milk,
which tasted alright, actually.

I wrote down everything flatmate said in a notebook,
and a time and date.

I went to the university yesterday, and made a
confidential, but official complaint. They were ace.
What is disturbing, is that he has a master key to all
the rooms in the residence. They are going to get it
from him. In the meantime, I'm keeping my keys firmly
in the lock, so he can't get into my room. As well as
a matter of personal safety and secuirity, they said
that if there is a robbery, he would be a suspect. Cos
not even uni officials can enter a room without
another person being present to stop any accusations
of stealing. With the exception of cleaners.

The drunk tory one was good, and said that if I needed
help, if it got worse, if there was trouble, I have to
go and get him.

No appologies. Nothing said about it. If it happens
again, I have the number for the security, and also
the office number for the university people. 

Mark (boyfriend) suggested I take the dictaphone he
gave me in the summer whenever I'm alone with him.
Also decided to take my keys, mobile and keep my shoes
on, in case things go worse.

Dad asked if he was on drugs. (dads reasoning of any
young irrational person).
Mum thinks hes religious (he read the bible about six
times) and doesn't like me being so liberated. I think
she means he doesn't like me smoking, drinking,
shagging, swearing and stuff.

Feeling calm really, think I have done the right
thing. 
Uni were sympathetic and helpful. 
Actually got my head round it all, and did some work.
Nobody is allowed to mess up my final year, without
prior consent and a note from the official bodies.

Anyway, thats me told you ther personal things now.

No news musically, to report. So this is purely an e
mail about me. Forgive me if its dull.

Love 
Idles








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From memolabels at xxx.dk  Thu Nov 30 14:52:35 2000
From: memolabels at xxx.dk (John Hyllegaard)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:52:35 +0100
Subject: Sinister: MAGNETIC FIELDS!!!
Message-ID: <003e01c05add$2ef8bf60$1ba3f9c3@stofanet.dk>

Hello music friends!

I've just discovered the american band The Magnetic Fields... In some way It's quite the same lo-fi/indie sound as B&S. It's truly beautiful. The triple-album is called "69 love songs". Does anybode else know this band? Well.. what a concept! 69 songs about love!!!

Greetings
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From ola1212 at xxx.pl  Thu Nov 30 16:08:22 2000
From: ola1212 at xxx.pl (Ola Szkudlapska)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 17:08:22 +0100
Subject: Sinister: can't you see in the dark like i can? 
Message-ID: <009701c05ae8$12544900$13684cd5@default>

dear list,

being sat here in my little room, i suddenly felt an urge to post. i'm still
quite undecided about *what* to write, but  i'll try to make it interesting,
honest :)

apparently it's still quite early, and it's already sooo dark outside.
that's the one thing i dislike about the autumn/winter season - it gets dark
farr too quickly and the darkness stays on for farr too long. no wonder i'm
usually late for school ;) well today, for a change, i wasn't. still it
turned out i needn't have bothered, as some teachers have been taken ill and
we were released home. and to think i could have finished dreaming about
being a gold-digger... pah. i'm sure if i hadn't woken up, i would have
found a very large gold nugget (or a couple of those actually), which would
be enough to finance my studying in the uk ;) and yes, i would then live
happily ever after ;))

anyway, i've just discovered how ace internet shopping actually is. i
managed to talk my dad into letting me use his card (teehee) so i've been
happily ordering stuff normally unavailable here in lousy poland. lalala :)
i received some of the records yesterday (it'll probably make for my
birthday+christmas present, but who cares? :) and fell in love with salako's
'a moonlight radiates...' ep. i even have it on lovely vinyl... lalalalala
:)

vinyl records are so much nicer than cds, as far as i'm concerned. they're
way prettier, for example ;) well ok, maybe i like them so much cos my lp
player isn't as annoying as my cd player (which, among other things, says NO
DISC when i try to put on my hefner ep or makes farty noises and jumps from
track 1 to 7 when i try to play tigermilk. is it censorship of some kind or
what?)

i too would like to contribute a few sentences to a common view that 'yes,
the latest gentle waves album is way way better than the debut'. i agree
completely. some of the new songs got played on a nice radio programme on
monday (quite late at night of course :) and i liked them lots. the vj
seemed enchanted too, so maybe he'll play some more next week :) (just by
the way, he's the guy whose late fishyclap review i posted some time ago.)
well unfortunately, that same guy slagged off sigur ros in one of his
programmes, so i'll still hate him forever ;) or as near as matters.

right, i'd better go then. schoolwork calling (ugh)

take care all,

ola

ps. jason, if you were talking about me in your last mail, then i'm really
real ;) and if you weren't, well, it just proves what a fool i am :)
psps. chris p, so i love sigur ros as well. does it make my music taste cool
too? ;)) (does it does it does it? ;))






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From Weingut.Hammes at xxx.de  Thu Nov 30 17:01:45 2000
From: Weingut.Hammes at xxx.de (Juergen Hammes)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 18:01:45 +0100
Subject: Sinister: and I'm developing an intensive crush on Paul van Dyk
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> Anyway, Eminem's got lovely eyes.
I've watched the video "Stan" 3 times now, and each time it makes me cry. Each 
and every bloody time. I mean, it's not like Eminem means it badly not answering 
those letters, is it ? No !
And these people going so very mad about stars are real. They exist and this 
load of desperation can come true.
And that is  soooo scary.

Kerstin "I'm sounding ridiculous, ain't I" H.

Was it someone that you'd maybe recognise ? 

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From nik_ovenden at xxx.com  Thu Nov 30 17:28:31 2000
From: nik_ovenden at xxx.com (Nik Ovenden)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:28:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sinister: Mission To Smarm...
Message-ID: <20001130172831.8970.qmail@web2106.mail.yahoo.com>

Well, that film was crap.  Tim Robbins can escape from
Shawshank, but stick him in space, and all he can do
is make his head implode.  it was nice to see
"Lieutenant Dan" make a comeback after Viet Nam,

Helloooooooo everybody; Oi'm making this one up as i
go along.  not like my usual 1-post-a-month-insightful
yet lurkish doodabs.
Roight:

KENNETH P Y CHU wrote re:"If You're Feeling Sinister"
"he'll try in VEIN to take away the pain..."
does this mean ministers now have the power to use
intravenous items to encourage religion?  my, how
interesting the church has become...

MOBY
is a twat.  unless he's on this list, or i'm in
trouble...but maybe he's right.  Damn all the people
who voted for Nader, and let's introduce a
dictatorship.  That way, no-one will mess up the
elections.  Bozo.

THE WARRIORS
a very good late 70's film on sunday night on Beeb 2. 
I was very very impressed at the storyline, and after
21 years it retains some brilliance.  Comments? 
especially from Coney Island residents.  the only shot
of your area was a fairground...arf arf.

TIGERMILK (the wine, as mentioned by idles)
was �3.49 down here, thus i purchased a "sample
bottle".  Upon realising it was almost as fantastic as
its namesake, i rushed to buy more...but horror!  the
buggers removed it from the shelves...i need a case of
12 for my xmas gatherings.
(it was a very very sweet wine...suited for the
non-regular wine drinkers, not you hardcore veteran
cheap-red drinkers...)

LA AUCTIONE
I got some mittens!  at least, my crush will have come
xmas.
And you're all so cheap!  i put in a "feeler" bid (too
much poker playing reveals itself) for "Beans"
Geddes's meal and won!  i live 300-odd miles away, so
a trek is in order...he'd better be a bloody good
cook...

XFM's
preordering "Cool Cool Xmas": Carp again.  it was
shipped 2 days late and STILL hasn't arrived!  so on
saturday i went round my friends house and listened to
his copy.  On that note...
MIDDLE EAST CRISIS
B&S's him has shown the way.  Israel is "captive". 
They said it, not me.

HITLER
i went to this lecture where the professor was so
clearly a pill-popper.  he said:
"Hitler was ideological E";  justified his comment by
saying 
"You'll never empathise unless you experience it"
and finally
"If Hitler had danced more, all of this would never
have happened".
Thus, i'm doing a jig for the Middle East right now. 
but dad's working up here and looks stressed.  i'll
jig in my room to the funk stylings of B&S later.

WHISTLER (it looks a bit like hitler...)
are they really that nasty?  but they sound so good on
the cd...when they come near my way, i'll dance lots
in front of them. see that they do then!

GENTLE WAVES
is much better this time round.  the first album
sounded like "learn to play piano book 1".

REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE
probably not the best thing to print on this
list...being largely american in populous...

LOLA RENNT
saw it for free in my local "arthouse" cinema, but a
load of tossing townie wankers were behind us laughing
when people died.  Gits.

ATP
YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Yippeeeee!

EMINEM + CRUSH
hmmm...

Nothing pisses me off more than that feeling once
you've posted and remember 3 more things to write.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh...
Love Niko
xxx

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From julesmarkham at xxx.net  Thu Nov 30 17:46:27 2000
From: julesmarkham at xxx.net (julesmarkham)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 17:46:27 -0000
Subject: Sinister: burnt offerings
Message-ID: <002801c05af5$89cbdc20$9d19ac3e@tonygeorge>

hi there little sinister folk.
So I've not been posting much, sorry. I've been really busy with the
black fox fables, which have been very well received. I've also been
trotting up to Sheffield every couple of weeks to see my beloved little fox,
who I adore and prize above all things...
So as karma has smiled at me, I am feeling good. So anyone who is
feeling unhappy or just in the dumps, and feel that their lives
could be brightened up with a kinder toy and some penny chews, mail me off
list, and I'll send a goodybag!
(but you'll have to let me know by....Sunday, as I'm off to Mickey next
week)
also, anyone still waiting for their copy of raindogs, I'm sorry about the
delay, but a certain sinister member still hasn't paid me for 4 copies, and
until he does, I can't afford to print up any more, ( it actually costs me
more to print and post than I'm charging), and
until I either get that money from the nameless one, or chalk it up to
misplaced trust and scrounge a tenner off someone else, the availability of
the books has dried up.
I actually feel really bummed about it, because I hate asking for money off
people, and I'm starting to wonder if I should bother with these books at
all, as I seem to spend half my time chasing after the few folks who take an
unfair advantage of me. And I dont want to charge more to the people who do
bother paying me back, as that's not fair on them.
sheesh.
anyway, enough of my griping. I gotta sort through some books to take to the
2nd hand shop tomorrow, I'm not giving them my precious copy of 'the tiger
who came to tea' !!
jules xxx

~Why does he keep called you 'fooka'? karma asked, eyeing the
Spriggin dubiously.
~Phooka. It's a sprite. It takes the form of a horse, and tempts people
to ride on its back. When they get on, it belts off into the wilderness,
flinging them all over the place, then dumps them in a puddle and
buggers off, laughing it's head off.
Karma eyed the black fox and smiled.
~Sounds about right.

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From brier at xxx.com  Thu Nov 30 18:16:27 2000
From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:16:27 -0800
Subject: Sinister: I'll take Manhattan in a garbage bag with Latin written on it that says "it's hard to give a shit these days"
Message-ID: <061901c05af9$a88ad040$729ef1d1@Brier.sb.net>

Howdeeee Cowguys & Cowgirls,

Loud applause to those who recently put up snappies on the Sini Photo
Albums.  If you haven't been in a while, go see.  There's dominatrix Lisa
(who looks like she could tie us all up and kick our asses, and probably
would), Pickle Prince (who reminds me of Dean Moriarty from On The Road,
altho I'm terrified to ask him how he got the name Pickle Prince), Sue Mi
(who lost her jumper on the way to the Body Parts page, and is stuck in As
We Are Now waiting for a ride to the Body Parts page.... damn wow), and some
smouldering girl with her pet pigeon.  A few new body parts too.... is it
getting a little steamier over there or is it just me?  If you don't have a
part on display yet, find a camera and a friend, and do us all a favor.
We'll thank you in the morning.


And why hasn't Sue Mi posted yet?  And where the hell did St. Lucy go (all
the boys wonder)?


Has anyone received notice yet that their auction has been paid for, and to
deliver the goods?  Cuz i ain't been paid for yet, and i wonder if they're
gonna let me rot in the fridge or what.  Or put me in the day-old bin and
pawn me off at half price?  What's a damaged goods to do?


Finally found another soul in this town who knows Belle & Sebastian.  I was
giving her a ride (on my Vespa, ya pervys!) when the subject came up.  Her
chest pressed into my back just a little harder when I mentioned them  I
nearly tottered & crashed when she said she likes them too!  But she's a
young punk & I'm an old hipster, so we're just friends.


First one to identify my subject line, I'll send you a postcard of the
Ramada Inn in El Paso, Texas.  Please include your address.


"If something good happens, I drink to celebrate it.
If something bad happens, I drink to forget it.
If nothing happens, I drink to make something happen."

                       -Bukowski

Over & out,

the Brier

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From gogron at xxx.uk  Thu Nov 30 19:41:41 2000
From: gogron at xxx.uk (gogron)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:41:41 +0000
Subject: Sinister: The Average Fine and Invisible Harp
Message-ID: <3A26AD74.6F79E55F@netscapeonline.co.uk>

Hello
It's been a weird week.
Most of it off work.. after all the excitement seeing my famous scottish
writer I had a near nervous collapse in the Georgian basement room I
share with my boss and several empty workstations the following day (a
hangover) and had to be laid to rest back home in me jim jams.
However, birthday approaching I decided to make the best of the gloom
and get drunk everyday, as soon as I got the wits to get dressed and
stagger down to 'the village'. Yeah, like Brier's Bukowsi quote. DON'T
READ BUKOWSKI!

bad influence

So, mostly I did that, ranted and raved incoherently as per usual for
hours on end in #sinister with lots of charming, intriguing and really
very smutty indeed people. Othertimes, I'd even manage to be almost nice
(by shutting up for a bit... in fact, my hands were beginning to shake
and my back was being glanced at by several members of the paranoia
family.

Things returned to normality this morning with lisa morrison's charming
post...
after a night whose sole item of sleep comprised making up doowop
harmonies with a bunch of little gherkin like people, some auditory
hallucinations provided by mine own ears, and someone with a mask on and
a pistol with a pickled newt in the barrel (don't ask.. erm).

So, a really great and enjoyably sober day back at work. I laughed as
the handbreak came away in my hands and I stepped into the cold vapours
of the wee office car park to lug some horribly heavy spare pre-cast
concrete blocks to choc up the tyres. My sweet boss's wife said I should
have let the car roll down on in and smash the old wooden gateways so
then we could've all claimed on insurance.

All's well that ends well
Fish fingers and chips! Yeay.

Gordon

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From wpsalt at xxx.com  Thu Nov 30 19:57:37 2000
From: wpsalt at xxx.com (Will Salt)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:57:37 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister:  Dark places and mysterious tunnels
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10011301956470.26283-100000@candle.btinternet.com>


Greetings, sinister people.

It's dark and cold; the weather is drawing in.  I'm supposed to be
working, but because I'm a damn lazy bugger I've been completely
ignoring all of my impending deadlines in favour of long walks and
afternoon naps.

Yesterday, I went for a long, long walk looking for mysterious holes
and underground places.  In a back alleyway, I found a dark shaft
coming up from a tunnel under the city; the sound of trains rushing
underneath.  I kept on walking, round through the suburbs along
cuttings and embankments, whistling Judy And The Dream of Horses as I
went.  I was still whistling -- quietly, in an i-can't-whistle sort of 
way -- at work this morning.  Hopefully, the people around me will
have been subliminally affected by beautiful melodies.

I did see a disused tunnel mouth whose barriers had been broken down,
and I was tempted to walk inside.  Not being brave enough, I stood by
the entrance and admired the quality of the stonework.  God, I need
*daring*!

Talking on #sinister the other day, I happened to mention that I would 
prefer a computer as seen in many, many 60s movies, with lots of
flashing lights and stuff; and got called a boy racer for my
troubles.  I would like to explain that this isn't what I want at
all.  I want a *huge* computer in a room of its own, manned by a team
of operators with NHS glasses and 1950s suits under their white lab
coats.  Every day I would walk in, and they would pass me the day's
Sinister mail printed out on green-striped paper.  Instead of a
monitor, it would have an *enormous* operator's console with hundreds
of lights and toggle switches.  Such a computer would normally live in 
a missile-command centre, in a bunker deep beneath American mountains; 
but I would keep it all to myself.  Aren't I greedy.

I was terribly disappointed when I first started using #sinister --
everyone there (except the List Mummy, of course) is an Absolute Tart!
I am now trying to increase my own tartiness in order to fit in more.
I shall have to buy a miniskirt and knee-high boots -- although I
don't think they'd go with my beard.

I did think of hundreds of other things to say, but they have all
slipped my mind right now.  Instead, I shall just have to go away and
try to improve myself.  Taraa.

-- 
Will "gneiss" Salt


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From heather at xxx.uk  Thu Nov 30 21:02:27 2000
From: heather at xxx.uk (mee)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:02:27 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Sinister: hello
In-Reply-To: <685428EF1E6C4D115A850005B8CC1278@rosseta.meowmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0011302101560.24561-100000@mrworry.compsoc.man.ac.uk>

"hi, i'm in manchester and I've just graduated from the nursery [insert
 witty pun here] I spend most of my time at the filmsociety, so if any of
 you stud.man.ac.uk's [inuendo, inuendo] hang around there you may have
 seen me... Breif descriptive text... Where does GRATE come
 from?... Comicall juxtasosition of upsidedown badges and wearing a jumper
 on the wrong way round... Why does everyone talk about not having any B&S
 content, when its more unusual to have some... which night at fab cafe is
 best?... Heather ps I'm not as big a fan of B&S as the pixies, but the
 pixies mailing list sucks..."

Louis dared me to send this unedited.


==
They were going to make me a major for this, and I wasn't even in their
army any more.


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From athenaofme at xxx.com  Thu Nov 30 21:04:57 2000
From: athenaofme at xxx.com (lisa morrison)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:04:57 -0000
Subject: Sinister: sixteen steps to sinwagon
Message-ID: <F223nKncnPOf3UnjptN000087f8@hotmail.com>

a big yee-haw to the list and all the darling
boys who post my name like a fucking billboard. self-advertising.
its how i survive.
"big stu" said something about hot topics of the past including
martini-fueled conversation regarding the phenomenon of the
nickname...so i jump into the mold of ideal and remark in my
lips should be redder way:
  they wanted to call me L-train...now they call me pumpi...
  use yr imagination boys and girls, this is coming from the
  list smut-puppy, here (that's me lisa)...
  know a kid called e-rock. the rock to play when yr rolling (on E).
  some kid they call flip...and i'm not touching that one.
  another they have dubbed "beef"...damn. i'd like to sink my teeth
  into that one like he's a big juicy quarter pounder...pickles and
  all on a seaseme seed bun...

and this is the part where i cry for help: "i'm a dirty old man trapped in 
the curves of a hip-swinging, cleavage to my chin, secret
agent type twenty year old...and don't you dare try to get me out."
(i bite)

the #sinister seems to be all the rage lately...
keep me out of there unless you need a dominatrix-for-hire...
and i'd appear somewhat tall and defiant like in those trashy pulp novels 
all in vinyl to my thighs and too much red, too high contrast, hard lines on 
this bitch pout...
it'd be play ground scatter and little susie would fall of the swing
and "mommy mommy- why does that pretty lady look so mean" all wide
eyed and cowering behind foliage...
i never get in on the fun.
pouting, but no bitch red...
-lisa
  ideal being.                                 that body parts page is
                                      getting a bit racey though...
                                     i want to know who the tease is
                                   who just let us in on HALF of his
                                         secret...we're all perk eyed
                                      and eared for the rest....

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From room_30 at xxx.com  Thu Nov 30 22:15:25 2000
From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 22:15:25 -0000
Subject: Sinister: who is robert pollard?
Message-ID: <F32MVFgTuRBrWuAzsq80000a0fe@hotmail.com>

updates

michelle:

'that quote at the signature of your email from your post was fab.!
"writing about music is like dancing about architecture"
i just wanted to ask you who anon was.'

i have absolutely no idea but its a grate quote


ola:

'i love sigur ros as well. does it make my music taste cool
too?'

of course! - a love of sigur ros makes anybody automatically the coolest, i 
recomend it to anyone


nico:

sorry if i upset any of our stateside chums but the whole election farce 
*is* pretty funny, no?
also, i *love* the warriors, i have a poster of it on my bedroom wall,  the 
video version is different from the one on tv, the video version dosn't have 
the exposition sequence before the titles, not much of a change though.

sort of *content*

has anybody heard of a band called the aislers set?
sort of belle and sebish, esp. the second track on the tape i was sent, the 
male vocalist is a deat ringet (auraly) for our beloved stuart m. (that was 
supposed to say dead ringer, my metal fingers are forever being attracted to 
that blasted magnetic 'T' key)


cherry pie for everyone
pez*


ps.  the subject: someone left a cd of his at a party at my house, i don't 
know who. i haven't listened to it yet either, i'll get back to you on that 
one
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From room_30 at xxx.com  Thu Nov 30 22:53:08 2000
From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 22:53:08 -0000
Subject: Sinister: re: dancing about architecture
Message-ID: <F210eRaNgEpTX5V3Gyk0000a569@hotmail.com>

>From: "Jeff Burke" <shiplore at xxx.com>

>chris if a quote is sited as anon it mean anonymous. or author unknown....



i know that but michelle asked me if i knew where it was from, i was just 
telling her that i didn't know

this is just getting too confusing :)







ok. now i've been informed it was steve martin who uttered these lines
cheers to jeremy (or props or whatever)

out
pez*
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From room_30 at xxx.com  Thu Nov 30 22:56:53 2000
From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 22:56:53 -0000
Subject: Sinister: PS
Message-ID: <F285N79xavjrRZ1UbDB0000a586@hotmail.com>


ps

>From: IndiRckGrl at xxx.com

>ooh....aisler's set.  they are really nice. i am going to see them in about 
>a
>week.  i am quite excited, since i have yet to see B&S live <sulk> so...a 
>B&S
>sounding band is the next best thing....right?

right. where are u seeing 'the set' (how else would you shorten it?)



cheers to all that have informed me the true identity if bob pollard, i like 
guided by voices as well!  who's a dumbass?  pez is


bye all
Pez*
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From room_30 at xxx.com  Thu Nov 30 22:56:38 2000
From: room_30 at xxx.com (chris perriman)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 22:56:38 -0000
Subject: Sinister: PS
Message-ID: <F142HfqR77bieLYCT4a0000a262@hotmail.com>


ps

>From: IndiRckGrl at xxx.com

>ooh....aisler's set.  they are really nice. i am going to see them in about 
>a
>week.  i am quite excited, since i have yet to see B&S live <sulk> so...a 
>B&S
>sounding band is the next best thing....right?

right. where are u seeing 'the set' (how else would you shorten it?)



cheers to all that have informed me the true identity if bob pollard, i like 
guided by voices as well!  who's a dumbass?  pez is


bye all
Pez*
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From steven.kado at xxx.ca  Mon Nov 27 23:28:19 2000
From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steven Kado)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:28:19 -0500
Subject: Sinister: schedule wrecking and public necking
References: <3A360EE3.CF78E0CC@ruskin.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <003301c058c9$bad584c0$1902a7d1@yesic.com>

graaah!


so, the ''christmas'' and the ''boxing day'' are over and now normalcy
returns.
i finished my volume of proust for the holidays, as well as the jimmy
corrigan collection chris ware put out.  what i love about finishing a
volume of proust is the way that you reflect on that volume after and think
about how this happened and that happened and 'holy shit he turned out to be
gay' and the ways that the narrator goes about relating all these things.
its pretty stellar.  jeez.  i also love the way that whenever things start
getting really bad, he picks up and brings everything to a rousing
conclusion.  rah!  hurrah marcel!

is anyone else as floored by the schneider tm cover of 'there is a light
that never goes out' as i am?  the rest of the new ep is mediocre but WOW~!
what a swell smiths cover.

a quick update for steve spotters...
i am doing ok.  i am almost done reading motherless brooklyn and am still
spending too much money on doing things that keep me up at night so that i
sleep all day except when i go to work where i have to be all 'classical'
etc.  i am really late sending off all my holiday correspondance including
sinister gift exchange things so if you are supposed to be getting somethign
from me (like Mark E. Hester for instance) and havn't gotten anything at all
then you are supposed to be getting something soon (i hope).  maybe i'll get
it all int he mail tomorrow.  the key point here is that NO ONE SHOULD BE
MAD AT ME!!  especially not you.

the weirdest part about waking up around 4 is that the sun is going down, so
you start feeling like the earth is turning backwards and the sun rises in
the west in the morning.  then i go to the gym.  then i eat breakfast!

since i havn't posted in forever there are some things that i caught in the
last month that i felt i should comment on.

ms. sanz mentioned the never-ending party that is toronto.  and i say:
"you're welcome to come by anytime"  you can even sleep on my crooked living
room floor (on a mattress sleeping bag type thing....my couch is totally
useless)  however, toronto isn't an endless party, at least not all the
time, and especially not when people are watching it.  sort of like in
qunatum physics.  it changes when someone else is looking at it.

so, despite having become somewhat completely nocturnal i am not really
living it up or anything, no flamboyant vomiting or excessive drunken
antics...disproving (perhaps) that the party is always rocking here in
toronto.  in fact, about as hard core as party action has been lately
largely involved making a mild ass of myself at a party yesterday but
nothing exciting, racy or anything.  oh.  my friends ed and tim broke the
sink in rancho relaxo by making out on top of it.  i guess thats what
happens when the indie rock and booze come together to quickly in washrooms
etc.  yes.

also, someone mistook chris lampien's outrageous boasts about his own (and
from what i gather over rated) hotness for those of my very modest self.  i
want to correct this!  grrrr.  besides, cat power isn't that hot.  she's not
as hot as the girl from blonde redhead nor as hot as some other people i
know who are really fucking attractive.  so there.  mind, what do i know, i
think aggi pastel is really hot.  i clearly stand far out in the wilderness
where judgements of 'hotness' are concearned.

someone also mentioned that they had come to like pop music more since being
13 and i certainly agree.  i listend to lots of bad punk (not to be confused
with good punk which i got into when i was 14 and moved to the big city) and
grungy things...also some metal.  but this is because i lived in the suburbs
and thats what you had to do.  i'm proud to say that i still don't feel
embarrassed about loving mudhoney tho.  neither am i regretful about my
jesus lizard problems.


le fuck
les shits
grrr.


does anyone remember blake confessing his undying love for the girl who put
the shoulder/neck/lips pic up on the bodypages thing?  did anyone else
decide (after blake suggested it) to put said photo up as yr windows desk
top?  well i did and it looks friggen great!  all pixelated and big and it
gets all the best comments from friends etc.  rah!  shoulder girl you rock.

s t e ve n




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